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francombe Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:11:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4c8f870c67b5b444 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174478cad74cbb0480b9a234 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:11:52 +0000 (UTC) --0015174478cad74cbb0480b9a234 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Did you find out yet Kayla, Im exited for you! I have one more Q, based you your response... > Lol! The one limitation of the Pico is (unlike the Tau/Alpha) there is no > headphone out, meaning that a metronome or drumbeat is required to keep in > time. You do have to choose a loop length of one, two, four, eight bars etc. > You are able to remove elements from the loop as you can hear at about 2:50 > here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaPlx-7Vqw4&feature=channel, where I > switch off the piano and bass, which then return at the end of the song. > > > OK but presumably i could loop an audio loop into say an EDP... from the pico, then the edp would send midi clock out, Then the pico would be able to record in synch.. correct? That way I dont need to hear a drumloop... or click? 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Did you find out yet Kayla, Im exited for y= ou!

I have one more Q, based you your response...

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Lol! The one limitation of the Pico is (unl= ike the Tau/Alpha) there is no headphone out, meaning that a metronome or d= rumbeat is required to keep in time. You do have to choose a loop length of= one, two, four, eight bars etc. You are able to remove elements from the l= oop as you can hear at about 2:50 here http://www.you= tube.com/watch?v=3DuaPlx-7Vqw4&feature=3Dchannel, where I switch of= f the piano and bass, which then return at the end of the song.
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OK but presumably i could loop= an audio loop into say an EDP... from the pico, then the edp would send mi= di clock out, Then the pico would be able to record in synch.. correct?
That way I dont need to hear a drumloop... or click?


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--0015174478cad74cbb0480b9a234-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 10:16:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECBBF3BE82; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1267438556; l=7836; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To: From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=M1ATlCnoQriG1neaInJG/VMfbZc=; b=Yq2RuHSpqkalpaK1PIn6AAbgJwkP5JtTyj7YDTPXobZby4dUPrZ0Ec6S0d4nF8fxv4s ka/+UcqtR7VVG/Rz7YGYjg3oAY6niP+BV7+TulnHvT/FsluLbhZgwRNZG7Dc90XQ2yLdT bKHDJeESm3ucUUfoXeJ6LOS/8EU4j8AFy18= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvumSDR1VBGg== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <5DE658E2DD77471C99A2D3E2091210B6@Christojota> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <20100225223144.9D9A33BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> <002f01cab6b9$c6bcfe00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <9e0440a61002260829p37c7c0endc15b71eb1aad2b6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Experimental Guitar Evening (Cologne) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:15:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013A_01CAB930.755EB430" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CAB930.755EB430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=B4ve been there. Very entertaining evening. 3 different = style-guitarists doing solo, duo and trio perfomances. Mainly quite experimental stuff. Michael Peters did some funny percussive loopings on his banjo, and the = duo track before the break with Michael Frank was a spheric, ambient loop-monster - with = interesting feedback of Michael Peter=B4s Fernandez-guitar. By the way, it was nice to meet you in person, = Michael. Hope you had a good time. I guess there will be a video in the net soon, as the concert was = filmed. Right? Christo www.christojota.de From: Raul Bonell=20 Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:18 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Experimental Guitar Evening (Cologne) don't forget the edirol, michael. 2010/2/26 Jim Goodin Michael wish I could be there, this looks really cool. Page is = interesting, hope it's a great show and best wishes Jim=20 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Michael Peters wrote: just a reminder that I'll play with Craig Green and Michael Frank in Cologne's LOFT this Saturday evening. http://bit.ly/d7awQg -Michael Peters --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de = m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, = =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa = aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CAB930.755EB430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=B4ve been there. Very entertaining evening. = 3 different=20 style-guitarists doing solo, duo and trio perfomances.
Mainly = quite=20 experimental stuff.
Michael Peters did some funny percussive = loopings on his=20 banjo, and the duo track before
the break with Michael Frank was a spheric, = ambient=20 loop-monster - with interesting feedback of Michael = Peter=B4s
Fernandez-guitar. By the way, it was nice to = meet you in=20 person, Michael. Hope you had a good time.
I guess there will be a video in the net soon, = as the=20 concert was filmed. Right?
Christo
www.christojota.de
 
From: Raul Bonell
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:18 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: Experimental Guitar Evening = (Cologne)

don't forget the edirol, michael.

2010/2/26 Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=
Michael wish I could be there, this looks really = cool. =20 Page is interesting, hope it's a great show  and best = wishes

Jim=20


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Michael = Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
just a reminder that I'll play with Craig Green = and=20 Michael Frank in
Cologne's LOFT this Saturday evening.
http://bit.ly/d7awQg

-Michael = Peters



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ReUse, an introspective textural = aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music = links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video=20 work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social=20 networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic



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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava=20 aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, = que he=20 pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si = s=F3c un=20 Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o = alguna cosa=20 aix=ED? "


Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain=20 Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
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That's a nice setup model that I have been using myself from day one in all my live looping. If generalizing this rig concept it looks like: A) Instrument, effects, small looper pre main looper. (synced to B) B) Main looper. (sending sync signal to A) As stage A I have been using units like TC Electronics FireworX, Eventide Eclipse, drum machines, filter banks, Eletrixpro Repeater and recently software like Bidule and Mainstage. As stage B I have been using mainly an EDP and recently Mobius software plugin looper. I to am looking forward to finding out the details on how the Pico does this. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From larryandbarbara@otelco.net Mon Mar 1 11:59:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3911 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:59:13 UTC Received: from ws4-3.us4.outblaze.com (ws4-3.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.90]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 31B093BE6F for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19829 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2010 09:41:36 -0000 X-ob-auth: larryandbarbara:otelco.net@otelco.net Received: from unknown (HELO User) (larryandbarbara@otelco.net@115.135.235.64) by ws4-3.us4.outblaze.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2010 09:41:35 -0000 Reply-To: From: "You Have Won" Subject: 5YQX-G052 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:41:30 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20100301115913.31B093BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; GEP ALERT GEP wishes to inform you of the results of the International Grand E-mail Ballot Promotion held in Bolton, Lancashire - United Kingdom on Saturday 27th February, 2010. Your account has been picked as a winner of a lump sum payout. This is from total prize money of 2,559,045.00 GBP shared among the FIVE (4) international winners in this category. Please contact your claims agent: Contact person: Andrew Perkins. 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It sounds like a perfect solution, and I know that there are a few Pico owners who use the likes of Bidule but I'd be interested in what everyone here thinks. The Pico is capable of either clocking to MIDI from an external device/software, or the other way round, so technically anything is possible! Regarding the competition Mark they've extended the deadline by a month so I have to wait another 30 days to find out ... fingers very much crossed :) Thanks for your messages and looking forward to your ideas K x On 1 March 2010 10:55, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:11 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > OK but presumably i could loop an audio loop into say an EDP... from the > > pico, then the edp would send midi clock out, Then the pico would be able > to > > record in synch.. correct? > > That way I dont need to hear a drumloop... or click? > > > That's a nice setup model that I have been using myself from day one > in all my live looping. If generalizing this rig concept it looks > like: > > A) Instrument, effects, small looper pre main looper. (synced to B) > B) Main looper. (sending sync signal to A) > > As stage A I have been using units like TC Electronics FireworX, > Eventide Eclipse, drum machines, filter banks, Eletrixpro Repeater and > recently software like Bidule and Mainstage. > > As stage B I have been using mainly an EDP and recently Mobius > software plugin looper. > > I to am looking forward to finding out the details on how the Pico does > this. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com Kayla on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kaylakavanagh MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 --0016363b9e9e887bf90480bceca1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark / Per,

To my absolute shame I have never heard of the EDP me= thod (!) ... glad Per was able to respond to that one :) I'm running OS= X (Tiger) - what would you guys recommend I look into EDP wise? It sounds = like a perfect solution, and I know that there are a few Pico owners who us= e the likes of Bidule but I'd be interested in what everyone here think= s. The Pico is capable of either clocking to MIDI from an external device/s= oftware, or the other way round, so technically anything is possible!

Regarding the competition Mark they've extended the deadline by a m= onth so I have to wait another 30 days to find out ... fingers very much cr= ossed :)

Thanks for your messages and looking forward to your ideas<= br>
K x

On 1 March 2010 10:55, Per Boysen= <perboysen@gma= il.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:11 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:<= br> > OK but presumably i could loop an audio loop into say an EDP... from t= he
> pico, then the edp would send midi clock out, Then the pico would be a= ble to
> record in synch.. correct?
> That way I dont need to hear a drumloop... or click?


That's a nice setup model that I have been using myself from day = one
in all my live looping. If generalizing this rig concept it looks
like:

A) Instrument, effects, small looper pre main looper. (synced to B)
B) Main looper. (sending sync signal to A)

As stage A I have been using units like TC Electronics FireworX,
Eventide Eclipse, drum machines, filter banks, Eletrixpro Repeater and
recently software like Bidule and Mainstage.

As stage B I have been using mainly an EDP and recently Mobius
software plugin looper.

I to am looking forward to finding out the details on how the Pico does thi= s.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




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Kayla on Twitter: http://w= ww.twitter.com/kaylakavanagh
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh
FaceBook: http= ://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016
--0016363b9e9e887bf90480bceca1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 13:23:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6EE83BE88; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=daLQPbfIJqaU1UL40Zq7Xj26DDWWyQfua3amn7+zs+A=; b=iv3lqDjWR4DXTNDWEUPVIUZ2FChUt3EmzNWhJmH+9PNpk+eMjDN0b+jXhiu3pLkONv zNdln7VwZxsjN93BgakbQXQ0y7NKhihUx3bg77XJoDMsA4gLNGD8e4wkX4lnb0hg08CK hTN4U07fBwY7atxqbqm7hxTKQcE1h0uwQaO1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wRjtuNbCTigNDfaFJVTNqyC04Its1Ado/vgVD5iM4RYSXrMC1CnE0Nfj7G57Qt/+sX ZviROP80pl7HZ0S6PXejUpTzSS5t6mnprAE/ZLO/zIN5RsLgLhpUVmNticc6IRktmm1N vtWjtOrWGe2yIPVFyTywIV695xaok7+G/Jd64= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e01002260321r5e4eb5e5w3ed908e00a3606f2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1002261241v12f70a53h37ff0abf4cc449f1@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01002270420t7d3f7d9cqacd63c877c8fa38a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010255x574fcb72n518811e384f24b25@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:23:06 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > The Pico is capable of either clocking to MIDI from an external > device/software, or the other way round, so technically anything is > possible! Cool. That answers Mark's question well. I'm not aware that I mentioned any "EDP method" so I don't know what that would be? I just like the option of syncing to the looped/played tempo stuff that I put before the looper in the audio signal chain. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 13:36:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08CD13BE82; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ABsgTgQVC0pi1eDz6dJf6C0yUTOPMWeaho5nuY0qwyg=; b=syhfcpyiYI4cWFuobPmPOkdDSinuQtvjuML1G+T4IeuRrUqOyXdd1y0+FSJxtGBIQl /7WOztNCfeMGG1C/Tpsoc/+J2U7d2TAcmNgJTKC0y6cCwbHyCtBs9yEUx+Z8SdFo0WaX 2AkpOp/HLr9seuHpsjX0pXspbgYP1wMIZYSJo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=TlgDHiZfVaYpiPLVbN0ExPhIdvG5517zjZwMfvHU5DwoETH8Eny7KfFVhPQUpMM6Or G1hqJAJbOIpFQrPXQlzU/ivuy2wtZK/ZrokHKo5D+nZ5zZXH8H7Tbe81f7VZ2lCX4Nrv +snlHj0to81QMNx+C+Z94fodwjGyY69t5caQ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e01002260321r5e4eb5e5w3ed908e00a3606f2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1002261241v12f70a53h37ff0abf4cc449f1@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01002270420t7d3f7d9cqacd63c877c8fa38a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010255x574fcb72n518811e384f24b25@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:36:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bf9bd11870cfc38f Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003010536v199a9ad9ga2023d0e53595464@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174478cabdb1e00480bd5656 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:36:45 +0000 (UTC) --0015174478cabdb1e00480bd5656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 YEs Kayla you answered my post as Per said. Both you AND me Per.. I have 1 EDP that is my clock and everything runs off that, including another EDP... so if the Pico can fit into that (interesting if the recorder can start on reception of midi clock - or if you must hit RECORD on the beat (imposible) ... but it sound like it could work.. cool.... OH and Kayla, EDP is just another looper, alder thing than your RC 50.. its a black box, with lights on it.. that loops quite well... IMHO But certainly Im sure Per will try to get you to sell the foot pedal and rout the eigen software thru bidule and Mobius.. eh Per ?? ;-) off to sell some stuff.. Mark On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Kayla Kavanagh > wrote: > > The Pico is capable of either clocking to MIDI from an external > > device/software, or the other way round, so technically anything is > > possible! > > > Cool. That answers Mark's question well. > > I'm not aware that I mentioned any "EDP method" so I don't know what > that would be? I just like the option of syncing to the looped/played > tempo stuff that I put before the looper in the audio signal chain. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174478cabdb1e00480bd5656 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YEs Kayla you answered my post as Per said.

Both you AND me Per.. I = have 1 EDP that is my clock and everything runs off that, including another= EDP... so if the Pico can fit into that (interesting if the recorder can s= tart on reception of midi clock - or if you must hit RECORD on the beat (im= posible) ... but it sound like it could work.. cool....

OH and Kayla, EDP is just another looper, alder thing than your RC 50..= its a black box, with lights on it.. that loops quite well... IMHO But cer= tainly Im sure Per will try to get you to sell the foot pedal and rout the = eigen software thru bidule and Mobius.. eh Per ?? ;-)

off to sell some stuff..

Mark

= On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Kayla Kavanagh
<irishkayla@googlemail.com<= /a>> wrote:
> The Pico is capable of either clocking to MIDI from an external
> device/software, or the other way round, so technically anything is > possible!


Cool. That answers Mark's question well.

I'm not aware that I mentioned any "EDP method" so I don'= t know what
that would be? I just like the option of syncing to the looped/played
tempo stuff that I put before the looper in the audio signal chain.



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--0015174478cabdb1e00480bd5656-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 13:39:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9942B3BE85; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <5DE658E2DD77471C99A2D3E2091210B6@Christojota> Subject: RE: Experimental Guitar Evening (Cologne) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:39:39 +0100 Message-ID: <008001cab944$aaa22c30$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01CAB94D.0C669430" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5DE658E2DD77471C99A2D3E2091210B6@Christojota> Thread-Index: Acq5RE6lIiSCbpZ7R3GDu8WlufVFsgAAB5MQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.176; VDF: 7.10.4.162) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:39:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CAB94D.0C669430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thx and nice to meet you too Christo ... yes I hope there will be videos soonish. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CAB94D.0C669430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thx and nice to meet you too Christo ... yes = I hope=20 there will be videos soonish.  = -Michael
------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CAB94D.0C669430-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 13:46:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 319FF3BE95; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NocuE1OFnnagBoPB1QaHqdYyBg9uZ0ikxgZ9JPjmHe8=; b=hXIDeP3KEcvwvxBj3r47dGd6fs+VMmKs1xh4E9Me/PlbF6iHPo2COMuJoRmrQ1pfhk 06E1pPtn3UyUHOnSomvJFhFjdAuur3rGf3xwl6ZhKCqV+NBe7goV9YVfCjtdJuCWiZLe zFd77i91a9fUnaUGGYrhzjJohbBGCljdKnXZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=W7AYsLORMNzaZEkglsJGL6OAi8Vm2NwxPZVk6lZ7oRFxEULkNub753t+qa9ld7iK13 XnDvbjNBFxATgu3KMwRJBy8rFqd7s1QmOhD1ADU5UUJq6eb6IZX4Ia/aTUEEbN1457hB uTc9PBSZUTqWVIKY6SrrNShDkbGOcXeR8Fzas= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003010536v199a9ad9ga2023d0e53595464@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e01002260321r5e4eb5e5w3ed908e00a3606f2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1002261241v12f70a53h37ff0abf4cc449f1@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01002270420t7d3f7d9cqacd63c877c8fa38a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010255x574fcb72n518811e384f24b25@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010536v199a9ad9ga2023d0e53595464@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:46:11 +0000 Message-ID: <1f6442e01003010546t5a10e21bga4789569fc3b8e81@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 From: Kayla Kavanagh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163649a29be1f6d10480bd782e Resent-Message-ID: <4EumdB.A.DIE.vU8iLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:46:24 +0000 (UTC) --00163649a29be1f6d10480bd782e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > YEs Kayla you answered my post as Per said. > Great :) > > Both you AND me Per.. I have 1 EDP that is my clock and everything runs off > that, including another EDP... so if the Pico can fit into that (interesting > if the recorder can start on reception of midi clock - or if you must hit > RECORD on the beat (imposible) ... but it sound like it could work.. > cool.... > What happens with the EDP - Pico starting is this: 1) Set Pico to MIDI In 2) Arm metronome (actual click or drum loops can all be muted so no sound will come from the Pico in this way) 3) Start EDP 4) Pico automatically starts upon receipt of MIDI clock > > OH and Kayla, EDP is just another looper, alder thing than your RC 50.. its > a black box, with lights on it.. that loops quite well... IMHO > Fantastic - thanks for clearing that up! But certainly Im sure Per will try to get you to sell the foot pedal and > rout the eigen software thru bidule and Mobius.. eh Per ?? ;-) > LOL! I'm still getting to grips with the Pico and syncing with my RC-50 so will hopefully get round to Bidule etc. in the near future! In the meantime I'll keep plugging away (quite literally) with the bits and pieces I already have to see what I can do with it all :) K x --00163649a29be1f6d10480bd782e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
YEs Kayla you answered my post as Per said.
<= div> =A0
Great :)
=A0

Both you AND me Per.. I have 1 EDP that is my clo= ck and everything runs off that, including another EDP... so if the Pico ca= n fit into that (interesting if the recorder can start on reception of midi= clock - or if you must hit RECORD on the beat (imposible) ... but it sound= like it could work.. cool....

What happens with the EDP - Pico starting is this:
1) Set Pico to MIDI In
2) Arm metronome (actual click or drum loops= can all be muted so no sound will come from the Pico in this way)
3) St= art EDP
4) Pico automatically starts upon receipt of MIDI clock
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OH and Kayla, EDP is just another looper, alder thing than your RC 50..= its a black box, with lights on it.. that loops quite well... IMHO

Fantastic - thanks for clearing that up!

But certainly Im sure Per will try to= get you to sell the foot pedal and rout the eigen software thru bidule and= Mobius.. eh Per ?? ;-)

LOL!

I'm still getting to grips with the P= ico and syncing with my RC-50 so will hopefully get round to Bidule etc. in= the near future! In the meantime I'll keep plugging away (quite litera= lly) with the bits and pieces I already have to see what I can do with it a= ll :)

K x

--00163649a29be1f6d10480bd782e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 13:55:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C4B33BE93; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <16980968.2010901267451705092.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:55:05 +0100 (CET) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: O.T. (but not at all) musical apps for Apple i-phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.136 Resent-Message-ID: <1s7rS.A.RTE.5c8iLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopers! could someone tell me some interesting musical apps for i-phone? I already have: evdylooper,bloom, air, trope, aetherophone, Fingerophone, euphonics, solarmuse. Tnx Max Liver From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 14:09:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE9763BE91; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=u3z9KqugLWbR6bAwl9ljC7mPTAZpAjOM8SXctwV3iZQ=; b=d/8wV3Ci4IpMnZ0FNX3x4wNT80pYvZTUSSKxngdEyBRiG6PJLq5VFv8PptJd9gbUvY oj7Hln4w4QDPOVvPAmkFPMII3kh7eCe8O7YN54720CSr+hj9iEUf6OnBf/KCxd/+QGa9 hmMK2QVo9jsX3wA1oomYW7hPfp1UgX9+ZsrXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tQ/Ncz6iKEx8hmOAybP2oqu0LyJQdDzPslfdU8yegrgdDxzhWyBUXMWvWdGTK8eJtY sxBh51AIBtnd73kDk+3JMhK+9LnTb5lfqEAhm3kjEhDevjBVlTCH9xZWoRn2pOKoxqVh yvXOMceJ81WjkgTU8gTI3p0EraSU+nQ4C1ruc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1f6442e01003010546t5a10e21bga4789569fc3b8e81@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e01002260321r5e4eb5e5w3ed908e00a3606f2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1002261241v12f70a53h37ff0abf4cc449f1@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01002270420t7d3f7d9cqacd63c877c8fa38a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010255x574fcb72n518811e384f24b25@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010536v199a9ad9ga2023d0e53595464@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010546t5a10e21bga4789569fc3b8e81@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003010609j7de63c3lad82081a14f370a8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:09:43 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > I'll keep plugging away (quite literally) with the bits and pieces I already > have to see what I can do with it all :) That's the best attitude IMHO! :-) On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Im sure Per will try to get you to sell the foot pedal and rout the eigen > software thru bidule and Mobius.. eh Per ?? ;-) Not at all. I am definitely not "a software prophet"! I really couldn't care less wether a certain processing technique is housed by manufactured and dedicated hardware or implemented in software to spill its magic through computer hardware. I regard processing as "an instrument" and go for whatever solution that may provide me my instrument of choice. And of course others should look for solutions that will let them do what they want. The reason I use a lot of software these days is not that I like software. It's simply because the processing I want to play with is available to me in that form. I actually do not like software. If a small box would do what Mainstage/Mobius does I would rather use that box. It is indeed a mystery why someone doesn't make and sell such boxes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 15:03:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B24E3BE7E; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ahzqtaaI1UsnakjFN48RhU8n9psLhvVPLFee3uVBpII=; b=Q94hUHLsWOckm2RumQZS3r+sQ/wZNHqEij05XmIw6U7KSy9Lk/NKQkoPVpTjcsIFXs ttmVBSJFjF0ROqZQD4PSKZizWxubTDChJT5Dcvlz3vBDRDpU3EfUApEo5NVHqjqfsO6Y dJJAquG/xjAmo1/xbfa7s2tEhTCljKM3zwDGk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=RUBBaRH+uTmoKtZKQKqrmPya3xOdxXJQAwrvD0T6wDINx5LEFLWrmOT88pSDChJaVX HqAneWYUg8za1lePAYQdNotf38pgKj5fBoZhNlSVLue615ZKKbINugCZOzCO9Pyablgp 74u1qweRJRSYGA99RA1mBUqekc6aohvnMVgmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003010609j7de63c3lad82081a14f370a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e01002260321r5e4eb5e5w3ed908e00a3606f2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1002261241v12f70a53h37ff0abf4cc449f1@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01002270420t7d3f7d9cqacd63c877c8fa38a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010255x574fcb72n518811e384f24b25@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010536v199a9ad9ga2023d0e53595464@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010546t5a10e21bga4789569fc3b8e81@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010609j7de63c3lad82081a14f370a8@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:02:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 64c4987852a3879b Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003010702ie46e7d1tc6b756b089582d2e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174478ca892f930480be8c57 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:03:19 +0000 (UTC) --0015174478ca892f930480be8c57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LAUGH OUT LOUD! > Im sure Per will try to get you to sell the foot pedal and rout the eige= n > > software thru bidule and Mobius.. eh Per ?? ;-) > > Not at all. I am definitely not "a software prophet"! I really > couldn't care less > Ha ha! I was only teasing you Per, as you well know! I'm certainly not a HARDWARE prophet myself! I'm sure I could do all that I do on software.. (in fact probably with out all the quirks and glitches tha= t come from mixing lots of manufactures boxes) and I often take time out to try to do it in software, but truthfully, its just that my day jobs (yes I have 2) are both based on a computer and well... sometimes I just don't wanna look at a screen for any more hours!!! Its one of the reasons that I'm drawn to the Alpha actually.. maybe with an instrument that is so all encompassing, I could just get rid of all this..= . *http://tinyurl.com/yjnyucn* ... paint the room black, turn the light out... ... and play... .. man! Regards ... Mark PS; Bastards about the competition delay, what wankers Kayla!!! Don=B4t the= y want to give it to a talented Irish hottie? --0015174478ca892f930480be8c57 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LAUGH OUT LOUD!

> Im sure Per will try to get you to sell the foot pedal and rout the ei= gen
> software thru bidule and Mobius.. eh Per ?? ;-)

Not at all. I am definitely not "a software prophet"! I rea= lly
couldn't care less

Ha ha! I was only teasing you Per, as you well know!

I'm certainly not a HARDWARE prophet myself! I'm sure I could do al= l that I do on software.. (in fact probably with out all the quirks and glitches that come from mixing lots of manufactures boxes) and I often take time out to try to do it in software, but truthfully, its just that my day jobs (yes I have 2) are both based on a computer and well... sometimes I just don't wanna look at a screen for any more hours!!!

Its one of the reasons that I'm drawn to the Alpha actually.. maybe with an instrument that is so all encompassing,=A0 I could just get rid of all this...

http://tinyurl.com/yjnyucn

... paint the room black, turn the light out...

... and play...


.. man!


Regards ... Mark

PS; Bastards about the competition delay, what wankers Kayla!!! Don=B4t the= y want to give it to a talented Irish hottie?




--0015174478ca892f930480be8c57-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 15:24:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DEE03BE88; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IqR3ii0Mv6UqcctPYUHrrpdCB/EA2vZY+egVda+ChpI=; b=GWdby/KWd35rf1PQs1JFTTs5KT96tObTriuy0AGj81FX4QZWhPR4jfB1VshkwvXlzx ltc2mgA5NyiUHKXV7UzclhAn8LGEiRRiTzR16uTu5+J6+bUAyzGTknGelP1KVNE164w1 qKMOyjfupV+BIjCeeSi4nKdRj2wmxic+PaVBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SRmBqQcr6wxDCNlvjX8G1x0Z/DzhvlGeHQ2pnUgpranvtgEXoptpOrQvlVJQOU1Jkz CiL14Po7ldgh3FYwn79uYMyT0lkOOmk2HAGF2orSZ5ok10NOG4V7cjtJyf3eSGvsX0JM OBIAna1vsXdWuGnubn4DGChjjDkisrjLbeYeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003010702ie46e7d1tc6b756b089582d2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e01002260321r5e4eb5e5w3ed908e00a3606f2@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01002270420t7d3f7d9cqacd63c877c8fa38a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010255x574fcb72n518811e384f24b25@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010536v199a9ad9ga2023d0e53595464@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010546t5a10e21bga4789569fc3b8e81@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010609j7de63c3lad82081a14f370a8@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010702ie46e7d1tc6b756b089582d2e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:24:17 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003010724t4dad5e30sd411ff8bdfff0afa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:24:19 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Its one of the reasons that I'm drawn to the Alpha actually.. Yay, go for it! Can't wait to learn about what you may do with an Alpha! Totally see your point. Technology is indeed a curse as we just want to play. But you may stretch your playing thanks to technology, given the interface is good. Myself I'm learning the Chapman Stick now in the hope that it will soon let me *play* stuff that I have so far needed the live looping extension to pull off. I like the simple "interface" of tapping strings with fingers. Almost as simple as blowing air into a tube (flute). Your body is the main interface for making music and it always hurts when having to extend it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 15:43:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9144D3BE85; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=significantimagery.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-Identified-User; b=ZSXWGaooRLCTauHqygyYCT1MFHJ5aj+K4briSRpg+Z4Co6pmpsI2LvHWj/lH4HMllE0u/jCEp37iLS4DkrgB/O8+9kDcpmYfBQgp7sjZmpUvjb/i2XlJhWGRp6ZB4wS+; From: "Nathan Lang" To: Subject: RE: O.T. (but not at all) musical apps for Apple i-phone Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:43:02 -0600 Message-ID: <709637FB44A269489C5957CCBACAE517011F3575@townsendexch.townsendprint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acq5Rs1/Kjz1eI7LTF6ibEgMrN8cEwADNe7Q In-Reply-To: <16980968.2010901267451705092.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Importance: Normal X-Identified-User: {1585:box565.bluehost.com:signifi1:significantimagery.com} {sentby:smtp auth 68.70.71.110 authed with nathan@significantimagery.com} Resent-Message-ID: <63ZiK.A.ylE.ZC-iLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Thumbjam ! My absolute favorite...everyone needs that one, check it out: http://www.thumbjam.com Looks like the updated version (v1.10) was submitted to Apple today so it should be available soon. Woohooo! Cant wait... -Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Massimo Liverani [mailto:mas.liv@libero.it] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:55 AM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: O.T. (but not at all) musical apps for Apple i-phone Hello loopers! could someone tell me some interesting musical apps for i-phone? I already have: evdylooper,bloom, air, trope, aetherophone, Fingerophone, euphonics, solarmuse. Tnx Max Liver From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 15:44:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A5153BE8B; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7JFegbS/Bztlu3tNU8o+r3OS793x9r5X8uNXIq2v+Wo=; b=S5M8m2OIdr8leUKBi4nShNFcMEZz9R8bzHV6flWZbrXFAk9lWsBp6sSfaoDRQtPukI AH0wyIrPddzAbOxO8jW3MautDIzCsmHxoUJPQMLZOozo8Ld32dqYUspunXrn0Zhc0bJT 0n+1unFHh4cknQEsoM0cb++gCcW6RIXB+2zuc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gCf/lXfRFtLoGH5UW3T6tjrEYez7WeolZpTpsy0EmjyZW5tanxlsj5HvIA2+w4z3Y8 3+HpYQkhZGlLbml1fCY8LLui8xG55F9O0XqQOYx6fZkZD5Vf7v5LoQVRD64mbn8g6IHM NCUf00aQkEjlHOZiOYUqD9b/D3MC41cEPNdmk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003010702ie46e7d1tc6b756b089582d2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e01002260321r5e4eb5e5w3ed908e00a3606f2@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01002270420t7d3f7d9cqacd63c877c8fa38a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010255x574fcb72n518811e384f24b25@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010536v199a9ad9ga2023d0e53595464@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010546t5a10e21bga4789569fc3b8e81@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010609j7de63c3lad82081a14f370a8@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010702ie46e7d1tc6b756b089582d2e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:44:22 +0000 Message-ID: <1f6442e01003010744x3e9c22eanb3503f1c0745b736@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 From: Kayla Kavanagh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65b623a8a453d0480bf1f04 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:44:26 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65b623a8a453d0480bf1f04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1 March 2010 15:02, mark francombe wrote: > > > PS; Bastards about the competition delay, what wankers Kayla!!! Don=B4t t= hey > want to give it to a talented Irish hottie? > > > > > LOL! That's very sweet of you thank you ... there are lots of really good entries so I'm not holding my breath - it would be the only way I could eve= r afford an instrument like that so I thought it was worth a shot :) K x --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com Kayla on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kaylakavanagh MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 --0016e65b623a8a453d0480bf1f04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 1 March 2010 15:02, mark francombe <mark@markfran= combe.com> wrote:


PS; Bastards about the competition delay, what wankers Kayla!!! Don=B4t the= y want to give it to a talented Irish hottie?





LOL! That's very sweet of you thank you ... ther= e are lots of really good entries so I'm not holding my breath - it wou= ld be the only way I could ever afford an instrument like that so I thought= it was worth a shot :)

K x


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--0016e65b623a8a453d0480bf1f04-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 17:26:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 099B23BE84; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8pspb97apNjIBGeYWVoHBxE5UfQ2iDEp/NBB1C0l8VA=; b=lfREMotFpwm2rhUT0Ci60eUjpNA43zrzvBWF3ipHhLbjKHWjVE/DSUGTWvMpdeFXWN 3bce1jwA5fh1IXXDZlDLVMN1IrMj9l+XJAAxSaSsTUltaW1zYuOlQc85Ppbq5Cs18rkP ur6stHpdX7xUHezluybdCzAM/CEo/w4lp1lfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W2lDJTzucgCmQUQ+mzI9ujzyaRFXFgwVpv87IXBe+cdgT44FU5oHzv066VzNu4cu8o AjY9Oc0WrNc0V+ltF9x8szzTXlOopEbtEfVFXAIp2AODEO7YSr/nif64Bq5/lnwp0aG1 s+ID7BllVlMZSuuVnM5LT6BB+jx7C+LkvcYwo= Sender: daryl shawn Message-ID: <4B8BF89D.1000709@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:25:49 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT - Tourspam References: <640570.55185.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <640570.55185.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <90py3.A.TdG.pi_iLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:26:01 +0000 (UTC) I'm heading out on a short tour of the eastern part of the US and Canada. Though I'll be driving to the first three gigs, after that I'm relying on public transportation, as I hate the thought of burning so much gas for my one-man band. Here's hoping the Amtrak/Greyhound timetables are kind to me. Only two looping gigs this time, otherwise I'll be doing my acoustic instrumentals. Wednesday March 3 - Globehopper Cafe, Richmond VA Thursday March 4 - Gillie's, Blacksburg VA Friday March 5 - Backstage Bar, Pittsburgh PA Sunday March 7 - Barking Spider, Cleveland OH Monday March 8 - Elbo Room, Chicago IL Tuesday March 9 - Ronny's, Chicago IL (looping set) Sunday March 14 - Centre St. Ambroise, Montreal QE Tuesday March 16 - Le Cagibi, Montreal QE (looping set) As always, meeting up with folks is the best part of tour. Drop a line if I'm coming to your burg! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 17:35:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CE453BE84; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 441 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:35:58 UTC Message-ID: <20100301103345.czhid4its0cos0wc@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:33:45 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT - Tourspam References: <640570.55185.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B8BF89D.1000709@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8BF89D.1000709@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <9SEHrB.A.PwH._r_iLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) I'm on the left coast, so I won't be able to catch any of these, but I =20 hope the tour rocks! :) -cpr Quoting Daryl Shawn : > I'm heading out on a short tour of the eastern part of the US and > Canada. Though I'll be driving to the first three gigs, after that I'm > relying on public transportation, as I hate the thought of burning so > much gas for my one-man band. Here's hoping the Amtrak/Greyhound > timetables are kind to me. > > Only two looping gigs this time, otherwise I'll be doing my acoustic > instrumentals. > > Wednesday March 3 - Globehopper Cafe, Richmond VA > Thursday March 4 - Gillie's, Blacksburg VA > Friday March 5 - Backstage Bar, Pittsburgh PA > Sunday March 7 - Barking Spider, Cleveland OH > Monday March 8 - Elbo Room, Chicago IL > Tuesday March 9 - Ronny's, Chicago IL (looping set) > Sunday March 14 - Centre St. Ambroise, Montreal QE > Tuesday March 16 - Le Cagibi, Montreal QE (looping set) > > As always, meeting up with folks is the best part of tour. Drop a line > if I'm coming to your burg! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 17:50:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F2C73BE85; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Ik8lUYLf+X1SUUU7rbOVLmUtQUln5sh/FNibtxdkSd8=; b=kwa7jbqN9/CexVLCRMCFm6NcLmOTaLrBE+hx6cK0pKx6cYwTGW/skVXNuu5GeBQG6P JM4vhq61uuohgdsKgziwSz6v5wYBasGRliC/SSh4McRnWoJEs89TkxzdnST0S2zLBZ4P aTO8PxW4KBxhoHNLxf3cYLysyxn53vGvX4KV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=mL1yiev+9cm/pF7lNz678nIl99PF1Xn95rDOjhFBo+pKUpMFr/940nxnI7sRmcRgwH xGmoSX0NMykku8JzUL/9ZP5gvFtwQDOKFl8vWDsTuCIheBCANyl3/uEuHaAvduSQdG2j Bh6m+NxrZyR0h8Exzjj1L3syMq2ITdgJpZGv8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4B8BF89D.1000709@mhorse.com> References: <640570.55185.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B8BF89D.1000709@mhorse.com> From: Tom Swirly Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:49:54 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9239fccefa04f33b Message-ID: <26ba8d121003010949h1c42b799i8c27929c3f517b36@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - Tourspam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f4534e9dd2e50480c0e110 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:50:15 +0000 (UTC) --001485f4534e9dd2e50480c0e110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 No New York? :-( Hope to catch you next time! On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I'm heading out on a short tour of the eastern part of the US and Canada. > Though I'll be driving to the first three gigs, after that I'm relying on > public transportation, as I hate the thought of burning so much gas for my > one-man band. Here's hoping the Amtrak/Greyhound timetables are kind to me. > > Only two looping gigs this time, otherwise I'll be doing my acoustic > instrumentals. > > Wednesday March 3 - Globehopper Cafe, Richmond VA > Thursday March 4 - Gillie's, Blacksburg VA > Friday March 5 - Backstage Bar, Pittsburgh PA > Sunday March 7 - Barking Spider, Cleveland OH > Monday March 8 - Elbo Room, Chicago IL > Tuesday March 9 - Ronny's, Chicago IL (looping set) > Sunday March 14 - Centre St. Ambroise, Montreal QE > Tuesday March 16 - Le Cagibi, Montreal QE (looping set) > > As always, meeting up with folks is the best part of tour. Drop a line if > I'm coming to your burg! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > -- /t --001485f4534e9dd2e50480c0e110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No New York? =C2=A0:-(

Hope to catch you next time!
<= br>
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Daryl Shawn = <highhorse@mho= rse.com> wrote:
I'm heading out on a short tour of the = eastern part of the US and Canada. Though I'll be driving to the first = three gigs, after that I'm relying on public transportation, as I hate = the thought of burning so much gas for my one-man band. Here's hoping t= he Amtrak/Greyhound timetables are kind to me.

Only two looping gigs this time, otherwise I'll be doing my acoustic in= strumentals.

Wednesday March 3 - Globehopper Cafe, Richmond VA
Thursday March 4 - Gillie's, Blacksburg VA
Friday March 5 - Backstage Bar, Pittsburgh PA
Sunday March 7 - Barking Spider, Cleveland OH
Monday March 8 - Elbo Room, Chicago IL
Tuesday March 9 - Ronny's, Chicago IL (looping set)
Sunday March 14 - Centre St. Ambroise, Montreal QE
Tuesday March 16 - Le Cagibi, Montreal QE (looping set)

As always, meeting up with folks is the best part of tour. Drop a line if I= 'm coming to your burg!

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com





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Hello Dear,
 
I h= ave Paid the fee for your Cheque Draft.but the manager of Eko Bank Benin to= ld me that before the check will get to you that it will expire.So i told h= im to cash  $1.5, Millions USD DOLLAR all the necessary arrangement of= delivering the $1.5, Millions USD DOLLAR in cash was made with FEDEX EXPRE= SS COURIER COMPANY.
 

This is the infor= mation they need to delivery your package to you.

ATTN: Edward Lyyn (Director)
EMAIL:in= fo_fedexmailbox@cooltoad.com
=  
Contact phone number:+22998582907 
Please,= Send them your contacts information to able them locate you immediately th= ey arrived in your country with your BOX This is what they need from you. 
1.YOUR FULL NAME............
2.YOUR COUNTRY...........
3.= YOUR HOME ADDRESS..............
4.YOUR CURRENT HOME TELEPHONE NUMBER..........
5.YOUR CURRENT OFF= ICE TELEPHONE..........
6.A COPY OF YOUR PICTURE............
 Please make sure you send this needed infomation to the Director FEDEX EX= PRESS COURIER COMPANY.  Edward Lyyn (Director) with the address given = to you.Note. FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER COMPANY don't know the contents of the B= ox.i register it as 1 Box Sensitive Photographic Film Material .They don't know it contents m= oney. this is to avoid them delaying with the Box.
 
The Deposi= t details:
Deposit Number: PLCC-101-PL45
Sort/Clearance Code: PLC/10= 1-45/P50
Deposit Certificate N0.: 405576
Consignment Description: 1 Box = Sensitive Photographic Film Material
Depositor: Mr. Mark Bello
 
I wait to hear from you.
Regards,
Mr.Mark Bello=
--0-1038094981-1267472361=:24430-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 20:54:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E20B3BE88; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1838 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:54:00 UTC Cc: Message-Id: <5C8F0C7B-3000-45DF-B671-4C40EB920468@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Massimo Liverani In-Reply-To: <16980968.2010901267451705092.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: O.T. (but not at all) musical apps for Apple i-phone Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:23:17 -0800 References: <16980968.2010901267451705092.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 4654a230-2570-11df-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOw5HJEYITQBc chwbOAIKd3gVXxYD A2cLS1ZUWl9yU2J8 JQ1UcwRdY1RPXQJ0 UU9BXVBXFgB3AVJe BB9lLGEBIAVHf3Z4 ZAhjVnBbEkB8cEIs QE1UCG8DYmd9aWFL Bl1Qd1FdbQNKfB1D blAtXHsONCtlM3Bw OEkPeXhxNyhDYCJS XkkEMRobRUJKVjsh XBEJFDFnFFUdXG09 KAZuA0YEGEtZMwAq MVwnVDoA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:54:01 +0000 (UTC) thumbjam On Mar 1, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Massimo Liverani wrote: > Hello loopers! > could someone tell me some interesting musical apps for i-phone? > I already have: evdylooper,bloom, air, trope, aetherophone, > Fingerophone, > euphonics, solarmuse. > Tnx > > Max Liver > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 21:47:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 268233BE84; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=zThHU3vf2P51jfCGSDnDTeD2FAQ2mU+yKiCJjMFTOaU=; b=KwqTDYiXUocDAhz4H5y3JEdT1AQljAOdQwyKeLpqC4EzlTCyOsvqj9+HsnnKnylMOK YhK1BziJtq61ZzosneorVcI2mwYu0Jvh1dEeFSziUiUblpHbBdPAm37RRjn1JnJt+ofX 8eND/VI28IvvujAq9U1nlX6jmIJTR3WWXBM9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=xZFB9W2q08thS07WPPDI4H9ODCcAzY0oPL+lAE3AyYUE1BUg7WMcNg/WwC09Hcax3a qxJlb83ktqIc6O2HzmJJHhd45BEfGglpsDLomA+bs5BPo570a31uYWxpPnhi241mT6xV 0IcupypJfDzbpsMQtQzk8t3Y5717mYjlon1gA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5C8F0C7B-3000-45DF-B671-4C40EB920468@zoekeating.com> References: <16980968.2010901267451705092.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> <5C8F0C7B-3000-45DF-B671-4C40EB920468@zoekeating.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:47:14 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cff1092af0d05d25 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003011347w586b6888p6d81c99a790f73fc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: O.T. (but not at all) musical apps for Apple i-phone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce02a926367b40480c432af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:47:35 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce02a926367b40480c432af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *ThumbJam is the BEST!!* I often while away the evening pretending to be Zoe...! No seriously.. all tyhe strig sounds are fantastic and Im just gonna do some gigs with just ThumbJam Zoe samples and the edps... lovely! I also think *Pro Loops* is pretty cool... The way each loop can be modulated by another, can get pretty skrewed.. SOund a bit like when I vocode one edp using my rf303 whaile ir itself is being vocoded by the first.. Its a never ending route to sonic oblivion and Im enjoying the ride... (Where the fuck did THAT come from.. phew.. sorry) Mark On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > thumbjam > > On Mar 1, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Massimo Liverani wrote: > > Hello loopers! >> could someone tell me some interesting musical apps for i-phone? >> I already have: evdylooper,bloom, air, trope, aetherophone, Fingerophone, >> euphonics, solarmuse. >> Tnx >> >> Max Liver >> >> > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce02a926367b40480c432af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ThumbJam is the BEST!!

I often while away the evening pretend= ing to be Zoe...!
No seriously.. all tyhe strig sounds are fantastic an= d Im just gonna do some gigs with just ThumbJam Zoe samples and the edps...= lovely!

I also think Pro Loops is pretty cool... The way=A0 each loop ca= n be modulated by another, can get pretty skrewed.. SOund a bit like when I= vocode one edp using my rf303 whaile ir itself is being vocoded by the fir= st.. Its a never ending route to sonic oblivion and Im enjoying the ride...=

(Where the fuck did THAT come from.. phew.. sorry)

Mark

<= br>




On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:= 23 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
thumbjam

On Mar 1, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Massimo Liverani wrote:

Hello loopers!
could someone tell me some interesting musical apps for i-phone?
I already have: evdylooper,bloom, air, trope, aetherophone, Fingerophone, euphonics, solarmuse.
Tnx

Max Liver





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http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--000e0ce02a926367b40480c432af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 1 22:07:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A560A3BE81; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <351630.97492.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new digitech jamman stereo Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:07:02 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 75.16.160.137 In-Reply-To: <351630.97492.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pjbmhb@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC87A2A834EB31_48E4_B8F_webmail-m047.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30746-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC87A2A821E029-48E4-5D7@webmail-m047.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: PJBMHB@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:07:32 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CC87A2A834EB31_48E4_B8F_webmail-m047.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cool. I have a Lexicon Jamman and an older Digitech Jamman. It will be nice to add another to the whole Jam Family. PJ -----Original Message----- From: scott hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:58 pm Subject: new digitech jamman stereo i emailed digitech this am (march 1, 2010) to ask when the new digitech ja= mman stereo is going to be released, i got this; Hi, It will be severalmore weeks. =20 Regards, Harman Music Group Technical Customer Service just in case anyone was sitting waiting for it to come out. s--- =20 =20 ----------MB_8CC87A2A834EB31_48E4_B8F_webmail-m047.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Cool. I have a Lexicon Jam= man and an older Digitech Jamman.
 It will be nice to add another to the whole Jam Family.

3D":-)"PJ



----= -Original Message-----
From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:58 pm
Subject: new digitech jamman stereo

i emailed digitech this am (march 1,= 2010) to ask when the new digitech jamman stereo is going to be released,= i got this;

Hi,
 It will be sever= al more weeks.
 
Regards,

Harman Music Group
Technical Customer Service

just in case anyone was sitting waiting for it= to come out.
s---


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 2 03:31:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40F803BE81; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: re:new digitech jamman stereo Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:31:04 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Actually a little bird told me that they are releasing two new looping products, the first being a single pedal looper the size of a boss RC-2, called the JamMan Solo that will have the following features, 35 minutes of internal storage possible 16 hours of material on SD card,( you know, for those really really really long gigs.) 44.1kHz 16 bit CD quality Auto quantization (for those who can't find the one ;-)???) USB connectivity with jam-manager software built in metronome with 9 rhythm patterns This may show up at the end of March Then comes the Jam Man Stereo , which has the same features and amount of storage as its little sibling but adds, stereo operation, a four foot-switch foot print about the size of the current JamMan, and, drum role please.............Reverse!!!!! The rep I talked to said that maybe multiply would be added as a feature. My first question is why the great fascination with storage??? Honestly I can see that some people might really put this feature to use in a very structured backing tracks format but for me, I'd rather have more features like track speed, and multiply and replace that can change the character of the loop. Even a DL-4 with its measly 14 seconds has both track speed,play once, and reverse, as well as a secondary delay with the ability to change delay parameters and loop volume with an expression pedal. The M-13 and M-9 are like the Dl-4 only with an entire compliment of effects thrown in for further sound manipulation. It just seems that the two major players at the moment in dedicated hardware loopers, Roland and Digitech, have both taken a pretty conservative approach to developing feature sets, and seem intent on trying to win an on board memory battle rather than create cool and adventurous capabilities like the benchmark hardware loopers the EDP,the original Jamman, the Repeater, and more recently the Looperlative. And so now the Jamman Stereo has the "highly sought after Reverse playback feature" Woo Hoo!!! break out the party hats. Is it just me? I'm not very impressed. I must say i have tried to give feedback to these companies and every new rep I meet I tell then to log on to Loopers Delight if they want to find out what intelligent people are doing with with looping in the real world , but many of these companies are more in a bubble than one would hope. OH well, now there will be a looper as small as a tube screamer that will record a 16 hour jam band marathon, progress boys and girls progress. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 2 05:47:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB3733BE82; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RfaoPiI7jezozQVyK3+WBYdFqdIMtBHe94i+0CBaRf4=; b=Om43Cum+AwinMFUnjkVzN2ny6KVq7VvYJvYYV8nxsmWwzsIxKC6Yxwx6igHL+sZ5s0 rpID4y5rpBvfJZKU6FfrGvkTRs/KVTw+UCCwOWvNpe/jf+inCBu3kVBeAmomseXExMz2 KsiKpQtMjMgwQwjFCyPzppP2rXfkdJUtrum/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DeY5RQdjeEEDHdvsjgjj7ZG7CTFQebSPAqZSiBoqCiIxGvdOMRvUOUQefC9Cs5CNoS NrgHeXSGMtmAnsm+v5JWVwLQVvWgJMuCITHx0O+mjpgXoAeov7ArO/72yk5kSjaYowUc IM3pdB4hBxLbuXlusmGQWaX5Roed659yGp3rg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jim.d.atwood@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:47:05 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 46c6f1c5d48b41b1 Message-ID: <8b50fe7b1003012147k5778d340if02b9e1a2c9fd0aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new digitech jamman stereo From: Jim Atwood To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c0754f7e0c0480cae5ee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:47:06 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c0754f7e0c0480cae5ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One thing I notice about looping is that the more I use a looper, the more I actually want to either record or save my loops. Not too long ago I bought a second hand Boss RC-2 pedal and really like the ability to save 9 or 10 loops for playback. The new Jamman series loopers will save more which appeals to me. I must admit that I also have and use the EDP and when I bought that, I didn't have any desire to save loops. Only until I picked up the RC-2 for fun that I found out the ability to save loops was a nice feature. I also might add, the ability to import loops from a memory card or to trigger backtracks is a nice bonus too with the Jamman series. I have never really had much luck with dedicated samplers in doing this. I know the RC-50 can do all of this, but the price point is much higher than what these new Jamman pedals may go for once they hit the street. I know a lot of people use computers for this also, but at the moment I'm pretty much a dedicated hardware person. Thus the new Jamman Series pedals are appealing in some way to me and perhaps to others for similar reasons. Nice topic. Thanks! - Jim On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:31 PM, William Walker wrote: > Actually a little bird told me that they are releasing two new looping > products, the first being a single pedal looper the size of a boss RC-2, > called the JamMan Solo that will have the following features, > 35 minutes of internal storage > possible 16 hours of material on SD card,( you know, for those really > really really long gigs.) > 44.1kHz 16 bit CD quality > Auto quantization (for those who can't find the one ;-)???) > USB connectivity with jam-manager software > built in metronome with 9 rhythm patterns > This may show up at the end of March > Then comes the Jam Man Stereo , which has the same features and amount > of storage as its little sibling but adds, stereo operation, a four > foot-switch foot print about the size of the current JamMan, and, drum role > please.............Reverse!!!!! > The rep I talked to said that maybe multiply would be added as a feature. > My first question is why the great fascination with storage??? Honestly I > can see that some people might really put this feature to use in a very > structured backing tracks format but for me, I'd rather have more features > like track speed, and multiply and replace that can change the character of > the loop. Even a DL-4 with its measly 14 seconds has both track speed,play > once, and reverse, as well as a secondary delay with the ability to change > delay parameters and loop volume with an expression pedal. The M-13 and > M-9 are like the Dl-4 only with an entire compliment of effects thrown in > for further sound manipulation. It just seems that the two major players at > the moment in dedicated hardware loopers, Roland and Digitech, have both > taken a pretty conservative approach to developing feature sets, and seem > intent on trying to win an on board memory battle rather than create cool > and adventurous capabilities like the benchmark hardware loopers the EDP,the > original Jamman, the Repeater, and more recently the Looperlative. And so > now the Jamman Stereo has the "highly sought after Reverse playback feature" > Woo Hoo!!! break out the party hats. Is it just me? I'm not very > impressed. I must say i have tried to give feedback to these companies and > every new rep I meet I tell then to log on to Loopers Delight if they want > to find out what intelligent people are doing with with looping in the real > world , but many of these companies are more in a bubble than one would > hope. > OH well, now there will be a looper as small as a tube screamer that will > record a 16 hour jam band marathon, progress boys and girls progress. > Bill > > --001636c5c0754f7e0c0480cae5ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thing I notice about looping is that the more I use a looper, the more I actually want to either record or save my loops.=A0 Not too long ago I bought a second hand Boss RC-2 pedal and really like the ability to save 9 or 10 loops for playback.=A0 The new Jamman series loopers will save more which appeals to me.=A0 I must admit that I also have and use the EDP and when I bought that, I didn't have any desire to save loops.=A0 Only until I picked up the RC-2 for fun that I found out the ability to save loops was a nice feature.=A0 I also might add, the ability to import loops from a memory card or to trigger backtracks is a nice bonus too with the Jamman series.=A0 I have never really had much luck with dedicated samplers in doing this.=A0 I know the RC-50 can do all of this, but the price point is much higher than what these new Jamman pedals may go for once they hit the street.=A0 I know a lot of people use computers for this also, but at the moment I'm pretty much a dedicated hardware person.=A0 Thus the new Jamman Series pedals are appealing in some way to me and perhaps to others for similar reasons.=A0 Nice topic.=A0 Thanks! - Jim

On Mon, Mar = 1, 2010 at 7:31 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Actually a little bird told me that they are releasing two new looping prod= ucts, the first being =A0a single pedal looper the size of a boss RC-2, cal= led the JamMan Solo that will have the following features,
35 minutes of internal storage
possible 16 hours of material on SD card,( you know, for those really reall= y really long gigs.)
44.1kHz 16 bit CD quality
Auto quantization (for those who can't find the one ;-)???)
USB connectivity with jam-manager software
built in metronome with 9 rhythm patterns
This may show up at the end of March
=A0 Then comes the Jam Man Stereo , which has the same features =A0and amo= unt of storage as its little sibling but adds, stereo operation, a four foo= t-switch foot print about the size of the current JamMan, and, drum role pl= ease.............Reverse!!!!!
The rep I talked to said that maybe multiply would be added as a feature. My first question is why the great fascination with storage??? Honestly I c= an see that some people might really put this feature to use in a very stru= ctured backing tracks format but for me, I'd rather have more features = like track speed, and multiply and replace that can change the character of= the loop. Even a DL-4 with its measly 14 seconds has both track speed,play= once, and reverse, as well as a secondary delay with the ability to change= =A0delay parameters and loop volume with an expression pedal. =A0The M-13 = and M-9 are like the Dl-4 only with an entire compliment of effects thrown = in for further sound manipulation. It just seems that the two major players= at the moment in dedicated hardware loopers, Roland and Digitech, have bot= h taken a pretty conservative approach to developing feature sets, and seem= intent on =A0trying to win an on board memory battle rather than create co= ol and adventurous capabilities like the benchmark hardware loopers the EDP= ,the original Jamman, the Repeater, and more recently the Looperlative. =A0= And so now the Jamman Stereo has the "highly sought after Reverse play= back feature" =A0 Woo Hoo!!! =A0break out the party hats. =A0Is it jus= t me? I'm not very impressed. I must say i have tried to give feedback = to these companies and every new rep I meet I tell then to log on to Looper= s Delight if they want to find out what intelligent people are doing with = =A0with looping in the real world , but =A0many of these companies are more= in a bubble than one would hope.
OH well, now there will be a looper as small as a tube screamer that will r= ecord a 16 hour jam band marathon, progress boys and girls progress.
Bill


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My first question is why the great fascination with storage??? Honestly I c= an see that some people might really put this feature to use in a very stru= ctured backing tracks format but for me... snippitty snip
Bill


I think you answered you=B4re own question there Bil= l. I=B4m the same as you thought Bill, I never use(d) the Repeater disks, a= part from to get insanely long loops... but I have to say that YEARS later,= I have gone back over a few loops and listened to the remains of jams... w= hich is very cool, considering the repeater had multiple teacks so you can = kinda recreate what you did in a way.

The there ARE two kinds of live loopers (people), theres the improvise = everything and snip and chop and rearrange and use the loopers as an instru= ment.. and tehre are those who need good, reliable ways to put together pre= -recorded tracks in a live setting, but with the ability to be a bit less r= igid than using a backing track. I myself would like this type in addition = to my 2 edps and repeater.. as I would like to chuck in .. oh I dont know..= "A Day in the life " perhaps after 45 minutes of bleeping scrapi= ng noises...

... maybe what you were really asking, is.. "Why doesnt it do ever= ything?" ... and THATS a good question!!!

MArk

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3D"Secretary-General
UNITED NATIONS COMPENSATION UNIT, IN AFFILIATION WITH WOR= LD BANK.
Attention,
 
How are you today? Hope all is well with you and family?, You may not = understand why this mail came to you.

We have been having a meeting = for the passed 7 months which ended 2 days ago with the then secretary to t= he UNITED NATIONS. This email is to all the people that have b= een scammed in any part of the world, the UNITED NATIONS have agreed to com= pensate them with the sum of US$ 750,000.00

This includes every fore= ign contractors that may have not received their contract sum, and people t= hat have had an unfinished transaction or international businesses that fai= led due to Government problems etc.

We found your name in our list a= nd that is why we are contacting you, this have been agreed upon and have b= een signed.

You are advised to contact Mr. Jim Ovia, of ou= r paying center in Africa, as he is our representative in Nigeria, contact him immediately for your Cheque/ International Bank Draft of USD= $750,000.00 This funds are in a Bank Draft for security purpose ok? so he w= ill send it to you and you can clear it in any bank of your choice.

= Therefore, you should send him your full Name and telephone number your cor= rect mailing address where you want him to send the Draft to you. Contact M= r. Jim Ovia, immediately for your Cheque:

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Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:30:13 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003010609j7de63c3lad82081a14f370a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100302123013.202470@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1f6442e01002260321r5e4eb5e5w3ed908e00a3606f2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1002261241v12f70a53h37ff0abf4cc449f1@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01002270420t7d3f7d9cqacd63c877c8fa38a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010111v2bc8f986l13ed19fb3c843dc6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010255x574fcb72n518811e384f24b25@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010506n2f798adfh9b782111db4c8693@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010522labf7fccj7d367aea17749067@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003010536v199a9ad9ga2023d0e53595464@mail.gmail.com> <1f6442e01003010546t5a10e21bga4789569fc3b8e81@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003010609j7de63c3lad82081a14f370a8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Syncing Eigenharp Pico with Boss RC-50 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19FlSlEeP5Ffba8y0MlzVdPoI/pe9iS8bZ0Th3PH1 zUvAQT1f3onMziJmACmq5gyKrBTIOzHW2Rag== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 4Ta/eCZ4PTR+d54oyjMwtHE5c2tpZIsx X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kayla > I actually do not like software. If a small box would do what > Mainstage/Mobius does I would rather use that box. It is indeed a > mystery why someone doesn't make and sell such boxes. Same here. So far, I've used to pedalboards, one with RC-50 (and tons of switches... ;-) and one with effects. With Mobius+Mainstage + some midi controllers (simple Korg Nano* will do for me mostly), I now have a setup doing exactly what I want - nothing more or less. And it's very portable & flexible. So, unless you're 100% happy with your setup, I can encourage you to switch from RC-50 to Mobius :) best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! 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Dear Loopers,

for sale an Electro Harmonix 2880 multitrack loope= r with UK power adapter (just the looper no floorboard) hardly used, excell= ent condition. =A3 275.. a lovely thing but the RC-50 more suits what i'm d= oing..

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:39:14 PST X-RocketYMMF: outer.kickbs2 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: issouf aziz Reply-To: issouf.aziz@gmail.com Subject: Reply Urgently To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1372994778-1267551554=:52221" --0-1372994778-1267551554=:52221 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friend, =C2=A0 I'm sorry but happy to inform you about my success in getting those funds t= ransferred under the cooperation of a new partner from London though i trie= d my best to involve you in the businnes but God decided the whole situatio= ns. 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Dear Friend,
 
I'm sorry but happy to inf= orm you about my success in getting those funds transferred under the coope= ration of a new partner from London though i tried my best to involve you i= n the businnes but God decided the whole situations. Presently i'm in Londo= n for investment projects with my own share of the total sum. meanwhile,i d= idn't forget your past efforts and attempts to assist me in transferring th= ose funds despite that it failed us some how.
 
Now contact my s= ecretary in Burkina faso his name is Mr Benjemine Frank  on his e-mail= address below ( mbenjemie12@gmail.com=   ) Ask him to sen= d you the total of $4.8m, which i kept for your compensation for all the pa= st efforts and attempts to assist me in this matter. I appreciated all your efforts a= t that time very much. so feel free and get in touched with my secretary Mr= Benjemine Frank  and instruct him where to send the amount to you. Pl= ease do let me know immediately you receive it so that we can share the joy= after all the sufferness at that time.
 
in the moment, I=E2=80= =99m very busy here because of the investment projects which I and the new = partner are having at hand, finally, remember that I had forwarded instruct= ion to the secretary on your behalf to receive that money, so feel free to = get in touch with Mr Benjemine Frank .he will send the amount to you w= ithout any delay.
 
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ok bill asks:
"My first question is why the great fascination with storage???"

bill, i guess i need to put on my robe and follow you in the 
choir in this!!! yes, why oh why do i need 32 min or 16 hrs of 
storage time?

i would much rather be able to record some loops and then 
manipulate them: mangle,short, long, fast, slow, etc etc.
but the co's seem only interested in more and more time...
i guess my question is: they can put a 20 sec looper on the
digitech rp155, which is a 99$ device-could you put out a 20 sec
looper that allowed you to actually play w/ the loops 
(long/short/pitch up-down,etc)i guess like my dream pedal 
the DIGITAL TAPE LOOP MACHINE?????

but yes, i think it's sad that boss puts out a loop pedal,
then digitech basically puts out the same pedal w/ no reverse.
whatever happened to
 making something DIFFERENT for the consumer.
i will agree, the music gear biz is probably small, and honestly 
things do come and go and change so fast....
oh well....
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--0-1804743755-1267551690=:25548-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 2 17:52:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F19663BE8B; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1267552337; bh=G6ZRSNmVb/7sAe15RpH+5lMYE3g1N1uZ82cyr532vsU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ICPEk8HK1z2wsp+icn2kPukTARVsb1JP2RnWDXi2uAGVgR5/KCNxm8Yr1IqSCSLlPU5CfDV6A3CamNHfrpPSwgv3dnD99m3cJGctLfgMU6fNbTpbqCzHQFhduoXERnakaX0ooPbarsrGT9vx1zs9/KFsE5yXZKYd8U++jd2PfzQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=krrj+eFwEa3DbIE4DxJR1+Q+Xlflq3ubGrEwVIY53sA5LQF0D4OUqA9A/uZKODfg4U/b5J4q5t2jWdvz+dXLMIxKZjJ6ldGrZyyddSw/QV+KzCw3TWLsStN26cilbxBqq/g9ir3KeaLjP8eKi8W3JO7w5EorVye+BRVq8xfrfIo=; Message-ID: <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bTHbRHAVM1lkcJF_QlwRf7Yu7Zxx85ETK3q7BJeAscu6PpBbhxis7JRCQgV8AvsE8trKSwVmY8fHQpY3M.OnJm.XT2nFk.paBJlcBBLU_6ZduwUF9oH2PZwaz71Ls2KGxFtATe9YYv9HwM55rUeKhZbUuKv.ogCRz9A8YAhr.56OA7qYrn17MNRNunhElUxpyRmCYT8fXXrzU.fNVTKQrWl_XyS2IS40_YNJpMxa.uFH_V.06RItop8A1zr4mnnE1nMFj5LaCDDqDjBrLyzu6APKNBntTRzE9ydallI- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: new digitech jamman stereo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-173604391-1267552337=:19078" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:52:18 +0000 (UTC) --0-173604391-1267552337=:19078 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill,=0A=0AI don't contribute to the list much but thanks for this info, al= so,=A0thanks for calling me intelligent!=0A=0AIt would be cool to create=A0= a=A017 minute loop, then double it note for note on the second pass through= the loop. Any taker's for the Large Loop Challenge?=0A=0AAlso, all kidding= aside, I love my DL4, but have never used the one shot capability (play on= ce), can you give some tips on=A0how you use this? (I never even touched it= !)=0A=0AThanks,=0AEric=A0=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A= From: William Walker =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com=0ASent: Mon, March 1, 2010 10:31:04 PM=0ASubject: re:new digit= ech jamman stereo=0A=0AActually a little bird told me that they are releasi= ng two new looping products, the first being=A0 a single pedal looper the s= ize of a boss RC-2, called the JamMan Solo that will have the following fea= tures,=0A35 minutes of internal storage=0Apossible 16 hours of material on = SD card,( you know, for those really really really long gigs.)=0A44.1kHz 16= bit CD quality=0AAuto quantization (for those who can't find the one ;-)??= ?)=0AUSB connectivity with jam-manager software=0Abuilt in metronome with 9= rhythm patterns=0AThis may show up at the end of March=0A=A0 Then comes th= e Jam Man Stereo , which has the same features=A0 and amount of storage as = its little sibling but adds, stereo operation, a four foot-switch foot prin= t about the size of the current JamMan, and, drum role please.............R= everse!!!!!=0AThe rep I talked to said that maybe multiply would be added a= s a feature.=0AMy first question is why the great fascination with storage?= ?? Honestly I can see that some people might really put this feature to use= in a very structured backing tracks format but for me, I'd rather have mor= e features like track speed, and multiply and replace that can change the c= haracter of the loop. Even a DL-4 with its measly 14 seconds has both track= speed,play once, and reverse, as well as a secondary delay with the abilit= y to change=A0 delay parameters and loop volume with an expression pedal.= =A0 The M-13 and M-9 are like the Dl-4 only with an entire compliment of ef= fects thrown in for further sound manipulation. It just seems that the two = major players at the moment in dedicated hardware loopers, Roland and Digit= ech, have both taken a pretty conservative approach to developing feature s= ets, and seem intent on=A0 trying to win an on board memory battle rather t= han create cool and adventurous capabilities like the benchmark hardware lo= opers the EDP,the original Jamman, the Repeater, and more recently the Looperlative.= =A0 And so now the Jamman Stereo has the "highly sought after Reverse playb= ack feature"=A0 Woo Hoo!!!=A0 break out the party hats.=A0 Is it just me? I= 'm not very impressed. I must say i have tried to give feedback to these co= mpanies and every new rep I meet I tell then to log on to Loopers Delight i= f they want to find out what intelligent people are doing with=A0 with loop= ing in the real world , but=A0 many of these companies are more in a bubble= than one would hope.=0AOH well, now there will be a looper as small as a t= ube screamer that will record a 16 hour jam band marathon, progress boys an= d girls progress.=0ABill=0A=0A=0A --0-173604391-1267552337=:19078 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill,
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=0A
I don't contrib= ute to the list much but thanks for this info, also, thanks for callin= g me intelligent!
=0A
 
=0A
It would be cool to crea= te a 17 minute loop, then double it note for note on the second p= ass through the loop. Any taker's for the Large Loop Challenge?
=0A 
=0A
Also, all kidding aside, I love my DL4, but have neve= r used the one shot capability (play once), can you give some tips on = how you use this? (I never even touched it!)
=0A
 
=0AThanks,
=0A
Eric 
=0A

=0A
=0A
=0A= From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com
Sent: Mon, March 1, = 2010 10:31:04 PM
Subject: re:new digitech jamman stereo

Actually a little bird told m= e that they are releasing two new looping products, the first being  a= single pedal looper the size of a boss RC-2, called the JamMan Solo that w= ill have the following features,
35 minutes of internal storage
possi= ble 16 hours of material on SD card,( you know, for those really really rea= lly long gigs.)
44.1kHz 16 bit CD quality
Auto quantization (for thos= e who can't find the one ;-)???)
USB connectivity with jam-manager softw= are
built in metronome with 9 rhythm patterns
This may show up at the= end of March
  Then comes the Jam Man Stereo , which has the same features  and amount of storage a= s its little sibling but adds, stereo operation, a four foot-switch foot pr= int about the size of the current JamMan, and, drum role please............= .Reverse!!!!!
The rep I talked to said that maybe multiply would be adde= d as a feature.
My first question is why the great fascination with stor= age??? Honestly I can see that some people might really put this feature to= use in a very structured backing tracks format but for me, I'd rather have= more features like track speed, and multiply and replace that can change t= he character of the loop. Even a DL-4 with its measly 14 seconds has both t= rack speed,play once, and reverse, as well as a secondary delay with the ab= ility to change  delay parameters and loop volume with an expression p= edal.  The M-13 and M-9 are like the Dl-4 only with an entire complime= nt of effects thrown in for further sound manipulation. It just seems that the two major players at the moment in dedicated hardware loope= rs, Roland and Digitech, have both taken a pretty conservative approach to = developing feature sets, and seem intent on  trying to win an on board= memory battle rather than create cool and adventurous capabilities like th= e benchmark hardware loopers the EDP,the original Jamman, the Repeater, and= more recently the Looperlative.  And so now the Jamman Stereo has the= "highly sought after Reverse playback feature"  Woo Hoo!!!  brea= k out the party hats.  Is it just me? I'm not very impressed. I must s= ay i have tried to give feedback to these companies and every new rep I mee= t I tell then to log on to Loopers Delight if they want to find out what in= telligent people are doing with  with looping in the real world , but&= nbsp; many of these companies are more in a bubble than one would hope.
= OH well, now there will be a looper as small as a tube screamer that will record a 16 hour jam band marathon, progress boys and girls progress.=
Bill


=0A=0A --0-173604391-1267552337=:19078-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 2 18:06:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F5703BE89; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3621 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:06:32 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8hSpvgkpSGyeI3x+s5kVbg)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003020143 References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <9ab0c76f1003020031o1066f11cg7305b156403399b5@mail.gmail.com> <477527479-1267528743-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-136121237-@bda118.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-id: <543403EA-3264-497A-A789-6447DB9A1B2C@mac.com> From: Daniel Berkman To: "folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net" In-reply-to: <477527479-1267528743-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-136121237-@bda118.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Subject: Re: new digitech jamman stereo Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:05:56 -0800 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <_OBPR.A.bjF.oOVjLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:06:33 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_8hSpvgkpSGyeI3x+s5kVbg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable When I do a Colfax set with my RC-50, I'll have a loop saved for a =20 dramatic surprise section while the first two loops are empty. I know I'm off the subject o Jamman but I thought I'd share another =20 use for storage. www.YouTube.com/colfaxsound _____________________ Daniel Berkman | Colfax Musician =E2=80=A2 Producer www.danielberkman.com Contact: (415) 254-4895 On Mar 2, 2010, at 3:18 AM, folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net wrote: > Hello all > I think the storage is great because: > 1) basic tracks can be available to start off a piece for example a =20= > percusion loop or basic rthym bed > 2) if a great idea comes up it can be saved for another performance =20= > or for recording > 3) more overdubs w/o the accumilation of noise > > These are just a few ideas that come to mind. > > > Mark Showalter > cell: 321-230-4559 > > Minden Jot! > > www.myspace.com/folkstone57 > > http://www.last.fm/user/Folkstone57 > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > From: mark francombe > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:31:38 +0100 > To: > Subject: Re: new digitech jamman stereo > > > My first question is why the great fascination with storage??? =20 > Honestly I can see that some people might really put this feature to =20= > use in a very structured backing tracks format but for me... =20 > snippitty snip > Bill > > > I think you answered you=C2=B4re own question there Bill. I=C2=B4m the = same as=20 > you thought Bill, I never use(d) the Repeater disks, apart from to =20= > get insanely long loops... but I have to say that YEARS later, I hav=20= > e gone back over a few loops and listened to the remains of jams... =20= > which is very cool, considering the repeater had multiple teacks so =20= > you can kinda recreate what you did in a way. > > The there ARE two kinds of live loopers (people), theres the =20 > improvise everything and snip and chop and rearrange and use the =20 > loopers as an instrument.. and tehre are those who need good, =20 > reliable ways to put together pre-recorded tracks in a live setting, =20= > but with the ability to be a bit less rigid than using a backing =20 > track. I myself would like this type in addition to my 2 edps and =20 > repeater.. as I would like to chuck in .. oh I dont know.. "A Day in =20= > the life " perhaps after 45 minutes of bleeping scraping noises... > > ... maybe what you were really asking, is.. "Why doesnt it do =20 > everything?" ... and THATS a good question!!! > > MArk > > --=20 > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --Boundary_(ID_8hSpvgkpSGyeI3x+s5kVbg) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
When I do a Colfax set with my = RC-50, I'll have a loop saved for a dramatic surprise section while the = first two loops are empty.
I know I'm off the subject o Jamman = but I thought I'd share another use = for
storage. 

= Hello all
I think the storage is great because:
1) basic tracks = can be available to start off a piece for example a percusion loop or = basic rthym bed
2) if a great idea comes up it can be saved for = another performance or for recording
3) more overdubs w/o the = accumilation of noise

These are just a few ideas that come to = mind.


Mark Showalter
cell: 321-230-4559

Minden = Jot!

www.myspace.com/folkstone57

http://www.last.fm/user/Folks= tone57

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: = mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:31:38 +0100
To: = <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: = Re: new digitech jamman stereo


My first question is why the great fascination with storage??? Honestly = I can see that some people might really put this feature to use in a = very structured backing tracks format but for me... snippitty snip
Bill


I think you answered you=C2=B4re own question = there Bill. I=C2=B4m the same as you thought Bill, I never use(d) the = Repeater disks, apart from to get insanely long loops... but I have to = say that YEARS later, I have gone back over a few loops and listened to = the remains of jams... which is very cool, considering the repeater had = multiple teacks so you can kinda recreate what you did in a way.

The there ARE two kinds of live loopers (people), theres the = improvise everything and snip and chop and rearrange and use the loopers = as an instrument.. and tehre are those who need good, reliable ways to = put together pre-recorded tracks in a live setting, but with the ability = to be a bit less rigid than using a backing track. I myself would like = this type in addition to my 2 edps and repeater.. as I would like to = chuck in .. oh I dont know.. "A Day in the life " perhaps after 45 = minutes of bleeping scraping noises...

... maybe what you were really asking, is.. "Why doesnt it do = everything?" ... and THATS a good question!!!

MArk

--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/us= er/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markf= rancombe
htt= p://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
= --Boundary_(ID_8hSpvgkpSGyeI3x+s5kVbg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 2 18:12:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17C1C3BE8F; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Ksz8m2SOKg7rwzCqC1ICocj9I1v09dEm9J8AIbQ93A=; b=dngDrba+pybWGA6x7iargRV0EhNujjsCMcS3gVRLY0SYq6/uYW+2dMSbfot8xhu/we RQ3ujBBzUD+qh+DfratpSHvXswe4Ejc7XalgeOtSpXSXd3/U41l/UEf99ThGNhoZcmr2 bdsgHaJcmkPKexiF2ws1JmxpOSGKrYE56Q0jM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aHEu5VXbvh6Ediz6cfUCRaX2jh4ti3cS2F/I0LfenXcDhCU9CBClDVmdDCN1AzwUu0 WfiXVjRlwgwTS8m3/hTxenMkhS0h7YuJWQZ9PgG0+YWSoHLP6nJVNy7AtskuMSERNXkC 9QZglz7uJ/zWCKHJNDSpaCf56B5DFSKkbdupo= Message-ID: <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:12:45 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new digitech jamman stereo References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-UZPDB.A.gvF.dUVjLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:12:45 +0000 (UTC) E Gross schrieb: > Also, all kidding aside, I love my DL4, but have never used the one > shot capability (play once), can you give some tips on how you use > this? (I never even touched it!) I guess it's perfectly valid that you don't use all the functions of a device...have I used all of the functions of Mobius? No, certainly not... I normally use one-shot not because of its one-shot nature, but because it's also a retrigger function (i.e. no matter where you are in a loop, it will restart it from the beginning - even repeatedly). One example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU52hGo3nNc&feature=related at around 2:52 and continuing around 3:00 Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 2 18:25:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC1233BEA2; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XIfBmAz9M2VQ3MDCqvqEUyiOnXFZ7KNTwVCR17i/v+E=; b=on6QRuzmq2MojEWNY48jUAI5/e/0Lj2mTxbmxFmMZOnHDdEMygWRbITeXL2OEvkkHB JOOpxGiRAtaMr26nyJL/igu11GFQc3Jtu/3J9N6AMoVsldSwu7m1noTUrehGGhStKH4N fH00t8W7zezRMfG+uj/ZUP6u+uEtRC+G+vlbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wWjMLtm9cTP56FcZSJdisUPXR047IuK6Mf/eVIXkxK/ZV29T588NH6RLw4PFQSEW6C xTotH+1D8K3nhBL0NGoXJahYYCPXHCmoVIo5nog3tBlPCFOrPJhcqEcp9KcVgtbLQO0R SmFG/MXAd3Od51dQxk8BgI3IevcSVJwSh9E5Q= Message-ID: <4B8D5838.8090102@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:26:00 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new digitech jamman stereo References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:25:58 +0000 (UTC) William Walker schrieb: > impressed. I must say i have tried to give feedback to these > companies and every new rep I meet I tell then to log on to Loopers > Delight if they want to find out what intelligent people are doing > with with looping in the real world , but many of these companies > are more in a bubble than one would hope. Sometimes, it will work though...I remember that I had been in contact with the lead programmer for the Repeater in long emails before the Repeater got released. There were several functions I requested back then, most importantly individual transport control for the tracks. I was told "won't be ready for software 1.x, but just you wait for version 2!" Guess what? It did take lots of years, but he obviously kept his word... > OH well, now there will be a looper as small as a tube screamer that > will record a 16 hour jam band marathon, progress boys and girls > progress. Now a tube screamer case easily can hold a pair of powerful DSPs (think 4 times Eclipse power), converters, system basis chip and a few flash memory chips which would be good for...about 50 15-hour-jams (CD-quality, stereo ;) -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 2 19:05:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF9AB3BE88; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 133601854 Message-ID: <133601854-1267556727-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-532189895-@bda118.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net X-Priority: Normal References: 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Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:05:51 +0000 (UTC) --0-544614550-1267556750=:96765 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ok this: oh I dont know.. "A Day in the life " perhaps after 45 minutes of bleeping scraping noises... that just makes me laugh. b/c there were times when i'm playing, i guess i call it "improvising" (but i'd use that term loosely for me, since 1/2 the time i dont' know what i'm doing-crazy visual artist me pretending to play music)...anyway, i've always wonder-ok, i'm improvising, making noises, etc random stuff and sometimes i will accidently discover some song i've heard and figure out the basic structure of it (by accident-b/c i'm the worst cover guitarist EVER) & i wonder in all this improvising could there ever be a moment that i stumble upon say a britney spears song....maybe someday....(that's my little improvising joke to myself) as for the feature set of our dream loop pedal-yeah, i guess there are many singer/songwriters out there who do the "1-person band" thing-hence the jack up the memory side of loop pedals. as for developing from co. side-maybe someone should send THESE HUGE CO's the DAVID TORN PAINTING WITH GUITAR VIDEOS from '93. in it he does lots of delay looping manipulation (OK, YES MY DREAM PEDAL: take the lexicon pcm42 & put it in a pedal and not make it cost a fortune). i'm not as familiar w/ Fripps looping stuff (have 3 cds) but i would assume his 2 tape machine looping days, part of the appeal is slowing down of tape or speeding up of tape-i don't remember fripp getting large variations of pitch changes, b/c i thought he was using long bits of tape for more "atmosphere", but please i would think that these 2 pioneers of looping in the guitar realm would show that LOOPS CAN BE MESSED WITH and aren't just STATIC!!!!!! ok, end of my rant thing..... but yes Bill, i will 2nd your concerns from earlier post about "do we need more storage savign time?" my answer no. s--- --0-544614550-1267556750=:96765 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
ok this:
oh I dont know.. "A Day in the life " perhaps after 45 minutes of bleeping scraping noises...

that just makes me laugh. b/c there were times when i'm playing, i guess i call it "improvising" (but i'd use that term loosely for me, since 1/2 the time i dont' know what i'm doing-crazy visual artist me pretending to play music)...anyway, i've always wonder-ok, i'm improvising, making noises, etc random stuff and sometimes i will accidently discover some song i've heard and figure out the basic structure of it (by accident-b/c i'm the worst cover guitarist EVER) & i wonder in all this improvising could there ever be a moment that i stumble upon say a britney spears song....maybe someday....(that's my little improvising joke to myself)

as for the feature set of our dream loop pedal-yeah, i guess there are many singer/songwriters out there who do the "1-person band" thing-hence the jack up the memory side of loop pedals.

as for developing from co. side-maybe someone should send THESE HUGE CO's the DAVID TORN PAINTING WITH GUITAR VIDEOS from '93. in it he does lots of delay looping manipulation (OK, YES MY DREAM PEDAL: take the lexicon pcm42 & put it in a pedal and not make it cost a fortune). i'm not as familiar w/ Fripps looping stuff (have 3 cds)
but i would assume his 2 tape machine looping days, part of the appeal is slowing down of tape or speeding up of tape-i don't remember fripp getting large variations of pitch changes, b/c i thought he was using long bits of tape for more "atmosphere", but please i would think
that these 2 pioneers of looping in the guitar realm would show that LOOPS CAN BE MESSED WITH and aren't just STATIC!!!!!!
ok, end of my rant thing.....
but yes Bill, i will 2nd your concerns from earlier post about "do we need more storage savign time?" my answer no.
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 06:26:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20100302142348.E03A963BCCA@ricovideo.ru> To: undisclosed-recipients:; FROM THE NEW ELECTED MINISTER: DR.MUHAR MANSUR (OFR) FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE 5th Floor, Annex 3, New Federal Secretariat Complex Shehu Shagari Way, Central Area Abuja - Nigeria Attention: Contractor/ inheritance /Beneficiary My name is, DR.MUHAR MANSUR, I'm the new Minister of Finance; I'm directed to contact you by the presidency to inform you of the new directives given by the federal government to pay 24 foreign contractors their outstanding payment. This development is a way of the federal government showing enough seriousness towards meeting up with promise made before the end of last fiscal year. Luckily enough your name was included and it was even published in some of our local news paper which if requested by you will be sent for you to confirm the authenticity of this mandate. You are to forward the documents to us immediately if you have it with you, but if you don't have it, you are therefore requested to contact the genuinely appointed Office of the Office of presidency Nigeria, Debt reconciliation committee(DRC) (Mr Goodluck Jonathan) on Tel: 234-80-755-22249, to sign/ issue you with the FOREIGN EXCHANGE FUNDS CLEARANCE CERTIFICATE /FOREIGN EXCHANGE COMMISSION FUNDS MONETARY UNIT./ FIN-103 RELEASE CODE relating to this payment as was shown on the telex copy which will facilitate the removal of PAYMENT ON-HOLD and credit your bank account unconditionally Your swift response will help this ministry a lot. Do email me with your full names and direct phone number. Best Regards, DR.MUHAR MANSUR (OFR) FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE (FMF). 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Denver, CO 80249. Des Moines, Iowa. U.S. www.cbp.gov/ This is to notify you that we have intercepted your parcel from Africa that= UPS is making the delivery and we have stopped the delivery process for so= me security reasons stated below: 1.=A0 Our scanning system has detected that your parcel contains a confirma= ble ATM CARD to the tune of $1,500,000.00 USD. 2.=A0 Such ATM CARD coming from Africa is been verified by the POSTAL INSPE= CTION SERVICE which we have directed our inspection team to proceed with th= e verification to ascertain the authenticity of the ATM CARD and now after = all the verification on the Parcel/ATM CARD, having contacted the issuing i= nstitution who made it known to our office that the ATM CARD is a Genuine o= ne and Not ILLEGALLY ACQUIRED. But now we could not found any Legal Document most especially, AFFIDAVIT OF= OWNERSHIP, and According to the Law of United Nations on page 145, Section= C, Subsection (111) on TRANSPORTATION OF FUNDS. It is necessary that the b= eneficiary of the above item must have a Duly Affidavit of Ownership which = must come from the Country of the Fund's Orign. You should therefore contact the sender Mr. John Benald of Oceanic Bank Int= ernational Plc to get the Affidavit Of Ownership for you while we wait to r= eceive from you the Affidavit File Number to enable us to forward your ATM = CARD to your address. His Contact information are as follows; Name: John Benald Email:johnbenald@qatar.io=20 Tel: +229 9760 1390 We apologise for any inconvinence that this might cause to you and urge tha= t you take a quick actions towards this issue. Thanks, Yours Sincerly, Mr. Alexander Bruce Auditor, CBP --0-1998009794-1267566009=:89178 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Customs and Border Protection
24735 E. 75th Ave.,
Suite 100.= Denver, CO 80249.
Des Moines, Iowa. U.S.
www.cbp.gov/

This is= to notify you that we have intercepted your parcel from Africa that UPS is= making the delivery and we have stopped the delivery process for some secu= rity reasons stated below:

1.  Our scanning system has detected= that your parcel contains a confirmable ATM CARD to the tune of $1,500,000= .00 USD.

2.  Such ATM CARD coming from Africa is been verified = by the POSTAL INSPECTION SERVICE which we have directed our inspection team= to proceed with the verification to ascertain the authenticity of the ATM = CARD and now after all the verification on the Parcel/ATM CARD, having cont= acted the issuing institution who made it known to our office that the ATM = CARD is a Genuine one and Not ILLEGALLY ACQUIRED.

But now we could not foun= d any Legal Document most especially, AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP, and According= to the Law of United Nations on page 145, Section C, Subsection (111) on T= RANSPORTATION OF FUNDS. It is necessary that the beneficiary of the above i= tem must have a Duly Affidavit of Ownership which must come from the Countr= y of the Fund's Orign.

You should therefore contact the sender Mr. J= ohn Benald of Oceanic Bank International Plc to get the Affidavit Of Owners= hip for you while we wait to receive from you the Affidavit File Number to = enable us to forward your ATM CARD to your address.

His Contact info= rmation are as follows;
Name: John Benald
Email:johnbenald@qatar.io <= br>Tel: +229 9760 1390

We apologise for any inconvinence that this m= ight cause to you and urge that you take a quick actions towards this issue= .

Thanks,
Yours Sincerly,
Mr. Alexander Bruce
Auditor, CBP
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Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapainting.com > No New York? :-( > > Hope to catch you next time! From davyygood.uk@gmail.com Wed Mar 3 00:03:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1902 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:03:47 UTC Received: from mx.monnet.ru (mx.monnet.ru [80.77.160.49]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F013BE6F for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1619 invoked by uid 210); 2 Mar 2010 23:24:42 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by mx (envelope-from , uid 201) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.95.3/10477. spamassassin: 3.2.1. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.008912 secs); 02 Mar 2010 23:24:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.monnet.ru) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:24:42 +0300 Received: from 86.101.5.75 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mukhach) by mail.monnet.ru with HTTP; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 02:24:42 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <36690.86.101.5.75.1267572282.squirrel@mail.monnet.ru> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 02:24:42 +0300 (MSK) Subject: From Hilda Davis From: "Mrs Hilda Davis" Reply-To: dvs.hilda1@gmail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; -- >From Hilda Davis Hello dearest one my name is Mrs hilda davis from Australia. I am married to Dr davis who worked with our Embassy in cote d ivoire for a period of 8 years before he died We were married for 13 years without a child before he died after a brief illness Since his death I decided not to marry again due to my religious belief When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of US$9.5m(Nine Million Five Hundred Thousand United State American dollars ) with a Bank in cote d ivoire. Presently this money is still in the custody of the Bank in cote d ivoire. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next Four months due to cancer sickness. Having known my condition I decided to donate this money to churchs, organisation or good person that will utilise this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want you to use this money for churchs, Charity organisation, orphanages, widows and other people that are in need. l took this decision because I don''t have any child that will inherit this money . Moreover, my husband relatives are not close to me since I devolop a Cancer problem and it had been their wish to see me dead in order to inherit his wealth since we have no Child. These people are not worthy of this inheritance. This is why I am taking this decision. I don'nt need any telephone communication in this regard because of my ill- health. As soon as I receive your reply I will give you the contact of the Bank in cote d ivoire where this money was deposited. I will also issue a letter of authorisation to the bank that will prove you the present beneficiary of this money. I also want you to always put me in prayer. Any delay in your reply may give me room to look for another good person for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated here in. Be noted that this transation will cost you a little money to get the changing of ownership certificate of the fund to your name,30% of the total money will go for your own use and your family including the expenses you will made while the rest of 70% will go for the churchs, Charity organisation, orphanages, widows and other people that are in need. Hoping to receive your response soonest.Reply to this adrress if you are intrested (dvs.hilda1@gmail.com) Thanks and Remain blessed Yours sister in the Lord Mrs Hilda Davis From alhaji_suleman28@voila.fr Wed Mar 3 07:54:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from n20.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (n20.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [87.248.110.137]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 05FEE3BE46 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.12.4.215] by n20.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2010 07:54:03 -0000 Received: from [87.248.110.198] by t2.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2010 07:54:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp238.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2010 07:54:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 227685.60075.bm@omp238.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 60293 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2010 07:54:02 -0000 Message-ID: <863924.59008.qm@web29206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7wJFxNIVM1lgBcl6UFPnhUpodGI1kKnfEobiq.3kFq7D4jl XJrG_CNlnqJGLhg6qvDXiFu9vFsJCF0TqT1fN.WKI8ELXMfcPevioy7fOrCQ uUQS1hzncbEB5HJo0HD0hE4F_nbgZjozCl1UhbdP_Lu5xPWL.54ZXTfO9.hO QhtZAGbbs2krw.T.Xj31skuFwWrfB8PYX1jALV.u4Hw3RvhYPqFCU4eWPibc LIdu20RxnWIvrnxQY8zu.wX3yLOeWgUDovKb6_av4N0k7xBL4.rA9AMtNjNP H8NGj7.Amk_2hVSH8StlBToKV6eJCVlIpID.rOaJi.39OypR.tY9HAOgS_Ha PqRuKIErZPY5rFNEnUIoTCXmiBa0GWeK4Bnmv.Hfv.cjrVyW8XR.zFwQ5a.W K1hZekzSVZWc4Z4rRVHLzaaRU77e2WoQECokhIjAiGH8MTrVNJluiRwTDQWO ex.K8x2SEXvrLuU3qJdMuty4aR2NczPcqx328VDmNpfwJgxZ..TJ4iTYWjeY aahbD3rKMSowRT7DmaUSjFlWRPDU2XwrjKPZPakQIe06FAT7Wqi_4ukkSPyf J_YID1bOCGFxw6yG5qeGVtRgjCstWi4a3D6A0NqcgeYxbDxOcZ5yDi4XgBTV fbcX_mpEto35fmoRqmUYgeuwWL15nOvsEQmRnIsTMPERQCzr.rzSIu2wFu7P zgi5_cOvy_f2j9MGvrXSc4j7njBlC7NGXNu29s9.XyFx8uxJgUH_OAt1Czkn sShEoM5i8P._3_fPB18b2BRGKl5bH4aPaBmg8q9Vx3CXzME4eBldfUrhrRS3 edcOCXqIwhqFKWuzwfbpjm1ovG3ZiuyjClipOWBW4q8LwCiPdqhpo3zYaCMJ 9p.d5E2mhxU7o_OvjPiBWrtCVlWgHmZLSBbrOgJMOCtK7cQHRx27DuduDKJR 3Px87u4kEzWu30cj5fp2_VF_kRxYydR2Sny7EkwiYL1Vpyxbe24WBm8Yy4xP 2U.X.Ci2nuwoXYoXMTyCaYA42ZdSNvm95OtCzVLOXshZG5jfvrBdKPjEP5P9 GP794a7Z4Ne7bWG6taiekQcE4DBmYg6krQjXmNR3gTNxfGBech5kSP6nIpSn rV.XB8ZHgh9bqb.QQAQRccq4a8MiMVroqOLsnusYFcBXEBDY25oR9mvZt5Au 6CPIobqINYMS24aj4ulKs2FWGoYras1hpudBiW7Ef2L91DIFjuFvAy5b9Gcb Tx_EPzJ9fb2dLj2FpPdRtxHRXql5VwjGmyP0K7bqBzmTqkAkY2Fst0XIal1l QOhJOOXhrE1n6tbCEymEVbck6c2jbbWYNMfHC0ast24nhUxcbFNklIllDUHk njStOA4jQlR4ZT9agwdvn9dfhEyJOXRAgADP8G2c- Received: from [41.203.229.40] by web29206.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:54:02 PST X-RocketYMMF: ma485712 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:54:02 -0800 (PST) From: Alhaji Suleman Reply-To: alhaji_suleman28@voila.fr Subject: URGENT RESPONSE AND CONFIDENTIAL PLEASE To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-711691092-1267602842=:59008" --0-711691092-1267602842=:59008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable URGENT RESPONSE AND CONFIDENTIAL PLEASE=20 AUDITING AND =0AACCOUNTING MANAGER, BANK OF AFRICA (B.O.A) OUAGADOUGOU-BURKINA FASO. =0A=A0=0ADEAR FRIEND,=0A=A0=0AI received encourag= ing information about you and how trust worhty you are. =0AI am delighted w= ith such a useful information.I am the manager of Auditing and =0AAccountin= g department of BANK OF AFRICA=A0 (B.O.A) Ouagadougou Burkina faso. I =0AHo= ped that you will not expose or betray this trust and confident that i am = =0Aabout to repose on you for the mutual benefit of our both families.=0A= =A0=0AI need your urgent assistance in transferring the sum of ($20.5)milli= on to =0Ayour account within 10 or 14 banking days.This money has been dorm= ant for years =0Ain our Bank without claim.I want the bank to release the m= oney to you as the =0Anearest person to our deceased customer(the owner of = the account)died along with =0Ahis supposed next of kin in an air crash sin= ce July 2000.=0A=A0=0AI don't want the money to go into our Bank treasurer = as an abandoned =0Afund.So this is the reason why i contacted you so that t= he bank can release the =0Amoney to you as the next of kin to the deceased = customer.(MR.ANDREAS SCHRANNER =0AFrom Munich, Germany) Please I would like= you to keep this proposal as a top =0Asecret and delete it if you are not = interested.=0A=A0=0AUpon receipt of your reply i will give you full details= on how the business =0Awill be executed and also, note that you will have = 40% of the above mentioned =0Asum if you agree to handle this business with= me.Waiting to hear from you =0Asoonest.=0AThanks with best regards, Yours truly, ALHAJI SULEMAN.=0A=A0=0AREPLY ME WITH THIS=A0 EMAIL ADDRESS alhaji_suleman2= 8@voila.fr=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You= Yahoo!?=0ASie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausrag= enden Schutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com --0-711691092-1267602842=:59008 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
URGENT RESPONSE AND= CONFIDENTIAL PLEASE
AUDITING AND =0AACCOUNTING MANAGER,
BANK OF AFR= ICA (B.O.A)
OUAGADOUGOU-BURKINA FASO. =0A
 
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DEAR F= RIEND,
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I received encouraging information = about you and how trust worhty you are. =0AI am delighted with such a usefu= l information.I am the manager of Auditing and =0AAccounting department of = BANK OF AFRICA  (B.O.A) Ouagadougou Burkina faso. I =0AHoped that you = will not expose or betray this trust and confident that i am =0Aabout to re= pose on you for the mutual benefit of our both families.
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I need your urgent assistance in transferring the sum of ($2= 0.5)million to =0Ayour account within 10 or 14 banking days.This money has = been dormant for years =0Ain our Bank without claim.I want the bank to rele= ase the money to you as the =0Anearest person to our deceased customer(the = owner of the account)died along with =0Ahis supposed next of kin in an air = crash since July 2000.
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I don't want the mo= ney to go into our Bank treasurer as an abandoned =0Afund.So this is the re= ason why i contacted you so that the bank can release the =0Amoney to you a= s the next of kin to the deceased customer.(MR.ANDREAS SCHRANNER =0AFrom Mu= nich, Germany) Please I would like you to keep this proposal as a top =0Ase= cret and delete it if you are not interested.
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=0A<= div>Upon receipt of your reply i will give you full details on how the busi= ness =0Awill be executed and also, note that you will have 40% of the above= mentioned =0Asum if you agree to handle this business with me.Waiting to h= ear from you =0Asoonest.
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Thanks with best regards,
Yours tr= uly,
ALHAJI SULEMAN.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 3 14:37:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 961453BE80; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c4b59cdd-278c-44e9-bbfb-437308b5c8eb_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:36:20 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2010 14:36:20.0106 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3D036A0:01CABADE] Resent-Message-ID: <9CyIs.A.2nF.nQnjLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:37:27 +0000 (UTC) --_c4b59cdd-278c-44e9-bbfb-437308b5c8eb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C I live in the UK=20 some of my EDPS have come from abroad=20 we use 240 over here i just used a small screwdriver ot move that over from 115 and fitted the r= ight three pin plug (it came with a euro lead) its worked fine. thanks Date: Fri=2C 26 Feb 2010 00:43:23 +0800 Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex From: halimzainal@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hi=2C Yeah it's on the back. I'm a bit scared to touch it. But might as well try.= Mine was originally set to 115v when i received it (is yours the same? 115= v and 240v). Thanx a lot for your help. On Thu=2C Feb 25=2C 2010 at 11:31 PM=2C phillip wilson wrote: is there not a simple switch on the back marked as 120 that you slide over = with a small screwdriver to read 240? there is on mine Date: Thu=2C 25 Feb 2010 20:38:20 +0800 Subject: re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex From: halimzainal@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hi=2C I just got the oberheim echoplex from the US. The only problem i'm facing i= s that the voltage in Malaysia is 240v and the echoplex i got is 120v. Is t= here any voltage selector on the oberheim echoplex so i can change it? Than= x. Halimski. =20 Not got a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free =20 _________________________________________________________________ Tell us your greatest=2C weirdest and funniest Hotmail stories http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_c4b59cdd-278c-44e9-bbfb-437308b5c8eb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C I live in the UK

some of my EDPS have come from abroad
we use 240 over here

i just used a small screwdriver ot move that = over from 115 and fitted the right three pin plug (it came with a euro lead= )

its worked fine.

thanks

Date= : Fri=2C 26 Feb 2010 00:43:23 +0800
Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Ob= erheim Echoplex
From: halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com

Hi=2C
Yeah it's on the back. I'm a= bit scared to touch it. But might as well try. Mine was originally set to = 115v when i received it (is yours the same? 115v and 240v). Thanx a lot for= your help.

On Thu=2C Feb 25=2C 2010 at 11:31 PM=2C p= hillip wilson <=3Bphillwilson@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
is there not a simple switch on the back marked as 120 that you slide over = with a small screwdriver to read 240? there is on mine

Date: Thu= =2C 25 Feb 2010 20:38:20 +0800
Subject: re: Voltage Selector For Oberhei= m Echoplex
From: halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hi=2C
I just got the oberheim echopl= ex from the US. The only problem i'm facing is that the voltage in Malaysia= is 240v and the echoplex i got is 120v. Is there any voltage selector on t= he oberheim echoplex so i can change it? Thanx.
Halimski.



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We want to hear all your fun= ny=2C exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now = --_c4b59cdd-278c-44e9-bbfb-437308b5c8eb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 3 15:17:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C34C13BE84; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/jkplC4U6jC9XXOtI634j4hzm3HPgFLZRShYTEsN1NU=; b=mTg0hlC/DU/meV4K+9PZAfCxhvVtb+Z9Kl1MUbYP96PvKE77ccTN+fA4k8uuf9DL7A i+E5F8nqxMc+bMBTXBPOPLIp7JbXiFTgxQhy4kfgH7X3o3rX1/blSognvgFltIZokOke /yWSQcT7eqoNE8c5jh2GPEG2XLqdo1athEGO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mE4kzUZmiDXJk6EZoSaYGTNA5fotvhAuizUK2OSqfIsW6f7KLoGW30hHOjFkPTWfut gmWX6eQVAS1E6KsikigNjV4PWw8q/+Q/bT0VXZE8cKbWkeA0iJ6wUBd22HBbX2vNKS+d 0TDY+o+lfufEWX12YLrvqZrOZmV78IUmOwuRA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:17:37 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504501588e87a0710480e6fb94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:17:38 +0000 (UTC) --00504501588e87a0710480e6fb94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Phillip, Thanx for the good help. Now i can rest assure that my EDP's safe. Thanx again. Halimski. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > Hi, I live in the UK > > some of my EDPS have come from abroad > > we use 240 over here > > i just used a small screwdriver ot move that over from 115 and fitted the > right three pin plug (it came with a euro lead) > > its worked fine. > > thanks > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:43:23 +0800 > > Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex > From: halimzainal@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hi, > Yeah it's on the back. I'm a bit scared to touch it. But might as well try. > Mine was originally set to 115v when i received it (is yours the same? 115v > and 240v). Thanx a lot for your help. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:31 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > > is there not a simple switch on the back marked as 120 that you slide over > with a small screwdriver to read 240? there is on mine > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:38:20 +0800 > Subject: re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex > From: halimzainal@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hi, > I just got the oberheim echoplex from the US. The only problem i'm facing > is that the voltage in Malaysia is 240v and the echoplex i got is 120v. Is > there any voltage selector on the oberheim echoplex so i can change it? > Thanx. > Halimski. > > > > ------------------------------ > Not got a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free > > > > ------------------------------ > We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell > us now > --00504501588e87a0710480e6fb94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Phillip,
Thanx for the good help. Now i can rest assure that my EDP&#= 39;s safe. Thanx again.

Halimski.

= On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I live in the UK

some of my EDPS have come from abroad

= we use 240 over here

i just used a small screwdriver ot move that ov= er from 115 and fitted the right three pin plug (it came with a euro lead)<= br>
its worked fine.

thanks

Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:43:= 23 +0800

Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Ec= hoplex
From: = halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hi,
Yea= h it's on the back. I'm a bit scared to touch it. But might as well= try. Mine was originally set to 115v when i received it (is yours the same= ? 115v and 240v). Thanx a lot for your help.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:31 PM, phillip wilson <phillwils= on@hotmail.com> wrote:
is there not a simple switch on the back marked as 120 that you slide over = with a small screwdriver to read 240? there is on mine

Date: Thu= , 25 Feb 2010 20:38:20 +0800
Subject: re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim = Echoplex
From: halimzaina= l@gmail.com
Hi,
I just got the oberheim echoplex from the US. Th= e only problem i'm facing is that the voltage in Malaysia is 240v and t= he echoplex i got is 120v. Is there any voltage selector on the oberheim ec= hoplex so i can change it? Thanx.
Halimski.



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--00504501588e87a0710480e6fb94-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 3 16:18:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F07B13BE85; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6651bf21-2c8b-4552-8635-b102b4535654_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:18:10 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,<4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2010 16:18:10.0689 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E012F10:01CABAED] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:18:11 +0000 (UTC) --_6651bf21-2c8b-4552-8635-b102b4535654_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys=2C I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active fo= r a long time on here. I have finally admitted to myself that I need a rebuild of my pedalboard an= d effects rack. I have squeezed as much as I possibly can out of the space I have available= but have hit a sticking point because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP and the updated= CE spec=2C my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has sat in my racks= back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element and I really = am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible with my 2 older = whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spec. Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup (just the= way I choose to use it=2C and that the Blackface unit is actually QUIETER = when used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc which again= from my old setup I can concur. so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap their ol= d whitefaced EDP for a very good condition Blackface? I would be happy to throw in TWO official controller units as a sweetener a= s I control all my EDPs through custom pedals. Like I say=2C if you are using your EDP in normal situations you will actua= lly get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution to my ground l= oop on the go!! thanks Phill MyOneManBand PS Im in the UK. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_6651bf21-2c8b-4552-8635-b102b4535654_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys=2C I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active fo= r a long time on here.

I have finally admitted to myself that I need= a rebuild of my pedalboard and effects rack.

I have squeezed as muc= h as I possibly can out of the space I have available but have hit a sticki= ng point

because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP= and the updated CE spec=2C my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has= sat in my racks back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back eleme= nt and I really am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible = with my 2 older whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spe= c.

Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup= (just the way I choose to use it=2C and that the Blackface unit is actuall= y QUIETER when used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc w= hich again from my old setup I can concur.

so basically what Im aski= ng is if anyone onlist would like to swap their old whitefaced EDP for a ve= ry good condition Blackface?

I would be happy to throw in TWO offici= al controller units as a sweetener as I control all my EDPs through custom = pedals.

Like I say=2C if you are using your EDP in normal situations= you will actually get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution= to my ground loop on the go!!

thanks

Phill MyOneManBand
<= br>PS Im in the UK.


Do you want a Hotmail ac= count? Sign-up now - Free = --_6651bf21-2c8b-4552-8635-b102b4535654_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 3 16:30:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B6063BE82; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_dc4d88a3-ac6d-49b5-b787-7b969a77fbea_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: FS Digitech Spacestation XP300 with XP1000 Mod Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:30:47 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com>,<736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,<4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2010 16:30:47.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[E151FCF0:01CABAEE] Resent-Message-ID: <6a6QwC.A.ES.56ojLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:30:49 +0000 (UTC) --_dc4d88a3-ac6d-49b5-b787-7b969a77fbea_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have decided it is time for a clear out I am selling a very hard to come by Digitech XP1000 by Jetpack Man=20 he is an FX tweaker who reverse engineered the XP series pedals=2C What you get it the XP series=2C Whammy=2C Modulator=2C Space Staion AND Reverberator all i= n one package with a chicken knob to select between the rom chips upon rese= t. The last Space Station on ebay UK went for over =A3350 so baring this in mi= nd I am looking for around =A3400 for this. Also I have a Metavox Vocorder for =A340 and a mint Line 6 FM4 for =A3100 i= f anyone is interested in some great noise machines together these could really form a whole manic rig. just give me a shout if you are interested =2C thanks for looking Phill Wilson =20 _________________________________________________________________ Tell us your greatest=2C weirdest and funniest Hotmail stories http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_dc4d88a3-ac6d-49b5-b787-7b969a77fbea_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have decided it is time for a clear out


I am selling a very ha= rd to come by

Digitech XP1000 by Jetpack Man

he is an FX twe= aker who reverse engineered the XP series pedals=2C

What you get it<= br>
the XP series=2C Whammy=2C Modulator=2C Space Staion AND Reverberato= r all in one package with a chicken knob to select between the rom chips up= on reset.

The last Space Station on ebay UK went for over =A3350 so = baring this in mind I am looking for around =A3400 for this.


Also I have a Metavox Vocorder for =A340 and a mint Line 6 FM4 for =A3100 = if anyone is interested in some great noise machines

together these = could really form a whole manic rig.

just give me a shout =3B if= you are interested =2C thanks for looking

Phill Wilson

We want to hear all your funny=2C exciting and crazy Hotmail stories= . Tell us now = --_dc4d88a3-ac6d-49b5-b787-7b969a77fbea_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 3 18:45:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFE593BE82; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1267641900; bh=F16RYcbk/5EydJENbIRVrylXEmaQzNBjsGfHPdCKulk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bLXOoTzf3ATLSdscZgd1gc02vB+JKihDZgSWX6oxLWRlrACYFQ4FOHIMEcYBhwvBF4LefPWeT9TSFQYhYM8ih0D02p1BqZvWio/qkOIMtsUi1kUEzRavj2OWb98z7UcnZr2/fewx0IqmLuG2Kikfm5W9mj/YSCaHycOAPkRZKnY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WEgfpCicK3a2PCJJdZ9h12g8Pzu4NNKN88m67VNQwJnDRSJ4uRX34DAjvTBrx2wdGseK9OR2WHXj5fsBWeijuLYyIG/NaPpwHIIXMEOFuo5/grFPKcgW5TX4MzMs/NL90QOYkDTMwBWUqY1hDrdvWnuR90d5EmMO9E1k9jOc+zE=; Message-ID: <579094.90002.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: SPwFjdIVM1mgP86qAU.y0E0Fsap9jYCwI.K.LjnRlM4Y0j2Uo8CtNz_J2hdI5lGUY2yHP9gMjYVLN_bhMV_H6kbYPi6hnA35R4oX6zV875riN6QUohwvMa2HSx0BkFZnJR5JIcfZkhfpeTDEv4WDetRdUhtxLwbcEKl.v1j2ycBdQ9XmpKsZdC2nZ3HdMxaRSgMtIZr4h5UN30JQVAbDeaoL1vC9mRMZUF5ZuqQX_sc5xJQsTFBHMbaNPHAQ6dY7QAWWjRjY00.qAO8IvFB0xIDsMk.rWnZxnMZxHmP0GGiV3tJYz5MMhJabtXJK.Xsg64qna2DjHqabyZxMtH1Byu387jY8cCYRj9C2IKC66enIrdw8Ulqzm_fLUHD5BQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:45:00 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: digitech jamman stereo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1082581525-1267641900=:90002" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:45:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-1082581525-1267641900=:90002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii someone said: "Not sure what the point is of a 17 minute loop that is doubled note for note. What did I miss? " in my ongoing search for the varispeed delay thing (obsessive could be the word for it...) i have been researching a few things. i actually looked up "tape loops" on wiki, & found this: David Gilmour used a loop pedal to play the 10-minute introduction to Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I-V) during his solo concert (this concert was released on DVD as David Gilmour in Concert) i thought that was most interesting. so i've been debating my self how much max time do i need? i know that when i went from my 2 sec delays on my digitech rp100 to 12 sec on my dod d-12, i thought that was an eternity. but then when i had 23 sec of delay on the boss dd20-i didn' like how it manipulated the loops-it was much weaker to me than the dod d12. then when i went to the original boss rc20 w/ 5 min of looping time-i remember the 1st time doing a loop and not thinking about 12sec or 23 sec, whatever-it did seem freeing for a moment-but not really being able to do anything to the loops seemed something i wasn't so much interested it. sure-i could put whatever effects before or after, but i think i like the ability to treat my looping device as an instrument-and i will say that w/ the guyatone md3-i'll play a bit, and then i find myself messing w/ the delay time more and more.... so, i don't know....probably in the end, co's have to put out what they think they can sell a lot of, my pathetic needs obviously aren't what most consumers need.....so i have to adjust....i can dream though i guess..... s--- --0-1082581525-1267641900=:90002 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
someone said: "Not sure what the point is of a 17 minute loop that is doubled note for note. What did I miss? "

in my ongoing search for the varispeed delay thing (obsessive could be the word for it...)
i have been researching a few things. i actually looked up "tape loops" on wiki, & found this:

David Gilmour used a loop pedal to play the 10-minute introduction to Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I-V) during his solo concert (this concert was released on DVD as David Gilmour in Concert)

i thought that was most interesting. so i've been debating my self how much max time do i need?
i know that when i went from my 2 sec delays on my digitech rp100 to 12 sec on my dod d-12, i thought that was an eternity. but then when i had 23 sec of delay on the boss dd20-i didn' like how it manipulated the loops-it was much weaker to me than the dod d12. then when i went to the original boss rc20 w/ 5 min of looping time-i remember the 1st time doing a loop and not thinking about 12sec or 23 sec, whatever-it did seem freeing for a moment-but not really being able to do anything to the loops seemed something i wasn't so much interested it. sure-i could put whatever effects before or after, but i think i like the ability to treat my looping device as an instrument-and i will say that w/ the guyatone md3-i'll play a bit, and then i find myself messing w/ the delay time more and more....
so, i don't know....probably in the end, co's have to put out what they think they can sell a lot of, my pathetic needs obviously aren't what most consumers need.....so i have to adjust....i can dream though i guess.....
s---

--0-1082581525-1267641900=:90002-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 3 19:14:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B00C3BE84; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 664 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:14:02 UTC X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1709988601 Message-ID: <1709988601-1267642976-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1399464530-@bda118.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net X-Priority: Normal References: <579094.90002.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <579094.90002.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: digitech jamman stereo From: folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:02:39 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2b8UWlEYUYXWBD47zzJBB4AoeKUhkRDIyLTc76pQr/M=; b=ha9ikBeLtHTwRupX9spghTB35zDIgOpRezDldqygIOC3OnTPyiGJw0qor7uatYbAwE WQLk6GSymG5FUz9V8jRW8ihdhRyUwffZFYaWan6iXdccRCTR5Jlort3EO6qL+t3F9NsH NQNTcf0zZlnNFNsDkNo8mVHVpWvV2fezrrD00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=PapvBUsV9XqVCVTRoyAvR6FdShHXRvfqn0QlT9XPQ7H6bOeGb6TBZheD4jaE1L91wm pd5W8LaRPwAcgCYZmcotgnwFzZAOeQfXPLjlVtbT5iCSAJ3HV5gWqHDa7n+Di7vvc1UF jUNyIColrxuCbRoGH8dQ712PSSte7BsxG2Ke0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:22:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8c50ce74325e483c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003031122r3bce7dd9q1d605f0df17c1878@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf93eaef03490480ea6683 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:22:31 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cdf93eaef03490480ea6683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No Beige to offer Im afraid Phil, but just out of interest, what IS the issue with your Blackface exactly... is it ground hum? Cos my newer unit suffers from distortion (or noise depending on how I set the input knob) I cant quite seem to get it right, and after all these years Im still not very sure of the technical side of things... My Old EDP is a horse... I can stick anyting into that it neither hisses or distorts.... so its a bit weird... Im kinda used to it now actually, infact the distorty EDP is usually my "lead" looper, whereas the other is the bass, rythum and clean stuff looper... Mark On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > Hi Guys, I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active for > a long time on here. > > I have finally admitted to myself that I need a rebuild of my pedalboard > and effects rack. > > I have squeezed as much as I possibly can out of the space I have available > but have hit a sticking point > > because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP and the updated > CE spec, my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has sat in my racks > back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element and I really am > keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible with my 2 older > whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spec. > > Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup (just the > way I choose to use it, and that the Blackface unit is actually QUIETER when > used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc which again from > my old setup I can concur. > > so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap their > old whitefaced EDP for a very good condition Blackface? > > I would be happy to throw in TWO official controller units as a sweetener > as I control all my EDPs through custom pedals. > > Like I say, if you are using your EDP in normal situations you will > actually get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution to my > ground loop on the go!! > > thanks > > Phill MyOneManBand > > PS Im in the UK. > > > ------------------------------ > Do you want a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0cdf93eaef03490480ea6683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No Beige to offer Im afraid Phil, but just out of interest, what IS the iss= ue with your Blackface exactly... is it ground hum? Cos my newer unit suffe= rs from distortion (or noise depending on how I set the input knob) I cant = quite seem to get it right, and after all these years Im still not very sur= e of the technical side of things... My Old EDP is a horse... I can stick a= nyting into that it neither hisses or distorts.... so its a bit weird... Im kinda used to it now actually, infact the distorty EDP is usually my &qu= ot;lead" looper, whereas the other is the bass, rythum and clean stuff= looper...


Mark



On Wed= , Mar 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote= :
Hi Guys, I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active for = a long time on here.

I have finally admitted to myself that I need a= rebuild of my pedalboard and effects rack.

I have squeezed as much = as I possibly can out of the space I have available but have hit a sticking= point

because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP and the upd= ated CE spec, my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has sat in my rac= ks back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element and I reall= y am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible with my 2 olde= r whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spec.

Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup (just= the way I choose to use it, and that the Blackface unit is actually QUIETE= R when used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc which aga= in from my old setup I can concur.

so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap thei= r old whitefaced EDP for a very good condition Blackface?

I would be= happy to throw in TWO official controller units as a sweetener as I contro= l all my EDPs through custom pedals.

Like I say, if you are using your EDP in normal situations you will act= ually get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution to my ground= loop on the go!!

thanks

Phill MyOneManBand

PS Im in t= he UK.


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--000e0cdf93eaef03490480ea6683-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 3 19:58:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC8013BE85; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ea6c6215-80f9-4d4b-8cb8-26e48b0bd310_" X-Originating-IP: [77.86.88.186] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:58:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003031122r3bce7dd9q1d605f0df17c1878@mail.gmail.com> References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com>,<736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com>,,<9ab0c76f1003031122r3bce7dd9q1d605f0df17c1878@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2010 19:58:13.0835 (UTC) FILETIME=[DBB161B0:01CABB0B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:58:25 +0000 (UTC) --_ea6c6215-80f9-4d4b-8cb8-26e48b0bd310_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi mark=2C =20 no=2C this is deffinatly just a ground loop. =20 I have included afterr my sign off the email from Andy Ewen (spelt it wrong= first time=2C sorry andy) =20 I have always found it odd that a guitar going into an echoplex going into = a pa system is considered by gibson to be an unusual "certain situation"...= i have wrote a few times to confirm this but apparantly this is so. =20 =20 can any other UK looper test this out on a black face and let me know the r= esults =20 no DI and into an amp or pa with a standard uk grounded plug. =20 Anyway mark=2C the problem you are having may be to do with a resistor dri= fting out of tollerance=2C its rare but i have heard it....if it happens on= the gain staging it can cause the input to be recorded too high and distor= t on output. =20 is it happening just on the loop? not on the direct signal? =20 Phill =20 =20 =20 Hi Phil=2C =20 The mains filter is a standard part fitted to all Blackface EDPs. The problem you have is a known issue and all Blackface EDPs will do this u= nder certain situations=2C (i.e. yours). =20 It is caused by the fact that when I re-designed the unit for CE approvals = and EMC testing=2C they made me ground the PCB in 9 separate places instead= of the original 1 position. This causes an earth-loop when certain other e= quipment is used and as you say=2C can be eliminated by removing the earth = from the mains lead=2C (not a good or safe practice). =20 However=2C I found a solution which is to send the output from the EDP via = a DI box=2C specifically one that has an isolating transformer in it. This = effectively removes the ground loop and the Blackface should then be quiete= r than the older White ones. =20 I informed Gibson of this issue and suggested we send a DI box out with eve= ry unit but they weren't into the idea and just told me they would deal wit= h any problems in the field if and when they arose. Funnily enough=2C out o= f the 1000 or so Blackface ones we made and have been sold=2C you are the o= nly user to find the fault! =20 Just get yourself a half decent DI Box. One of the ones below will probably= do the trick=2C (the second one will almost certainly work as it has a tra= nsformer in). I tried several when I was experimenting and they all worked = but I can't guarantee everyone will. You might want to borrow one of someon= e and then if that model works=2C buy your own=2C (or steal it from them :) =20 From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Wed=2C 3 Mar 2010 20:22:04 +0100 Subject: Re: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com No Beige to offer Im afraid Phil=2C but just out of interest=2C what IS the= issue with your Blackface exactly... is it ground hum? Cos my newer unit s= uffers from distortion (or noise depending on how I set the input knob) I c= ant quite seem to get it right=2C and after all these years Im still not ve= ry sure of the technical side of things... My Old EDP is a horse... I can s= tick anyting into that it neither hisses or distorts.... so its a bit weird= ... Im kinda used to it now actually=2C infact the distorty EDP is usually my "= lead" looper=2C whereas the other is the bass=2C rythum and clean stuff loo= per... Mark On Wed=2C Mar 3=2C 2010 at 5:18 PM=2C phillip wilson wrote: Hi Guys=2C I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active fo= r a long time on here. I have finally admitted to myself that I need a rebuild of my pedalboard an= d effects rack. I have squeezed as much as I possibly can out of the space I have available= but have hit a sticking point because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP and the updated= CE spec=2C my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has sat in my racks= back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element and I really = am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible with my 2 older = whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spec. Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup (just the= way I choose to use it=2C and that the Blackface unit is actually QUIETER = when used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc which again= from my old setup I can concur. so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap their ol= d whitefaced EDP for a very good condition Blackface? I would be happy to throw in TWO official controller units as a sweetener a= s I control all my EDPs through custom pedals. Like I say=2C if you are using your EDP in normal situations you will actua= lly get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution to my ground l= oop on the go!! thanks Phill MyOneManBand PS Im in the UK. Do you want a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch =20 _________________________________________________________________ We want to hear all your funny=2C exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell = us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_ea6c6215-80f9-4d4b-8cb8-26e48b0bd310_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi mark=2C

 =3B<= /P>

no=2C this is deffin= atly just a ground loop.

 =3B<= /P>

I have included afte= rr my sign off the email from Andy Ewen (spelt it wrong first time=2C sorry= andy)

 =3B<= /P>

I have always found = it odd that a guitar going into an echoplex going into a pa system is consi= dered by gibson to be an unusual "certain situation"...i have wrote a few t= imes to confirm this but apparantly this is so.

 =3B<= /P>

 =3B<= /P>

can any other UK loo= per test this out on a black face and let me know the results

 =3B<= /P>

no DI and into an am= p or pa with a standard uk grounded plug.

 =3B<= /P>

Anyway mark=2C = =3B the problem you are having may be to do with a resistor drifting out of= tollerance=2C its rare but i have heard it....if it happens on the gain st= aging it can cause the input to be recorded too high and distort on output.=

 =3B<= /P>

is it happening just= on the loop? not on the direct signal?

 =3B<= /P>

Phill

 =3B<= /P>

 =3B<= /P>

 =3B<= /P>

Hi Phil=2C

 =3B<= /P>

The mains filter is = a standard part fitted to all Blackface EDPs.

The problem you have= is a known issue and all Blackface EDPs will do this under certain situati= ons=2C (i.e. yours).

 =3B<= /P>

It is caused by the = fact that when I re-designed the unit for CE approvals and EMC testing=2C t= hey made me ground the PCB in 9 separate places instead of the original 1 p= osition. This causes an earth-loop when certain other equipment is used and= as you say=2C can be eliminated by removing the earth from the mains lead= =2C (not a good or safe practice).

 =3B<= /P>

However=2C I found a= solution which is to send the output from the EDP via a DI box=2C specific= ally one that has an isolating transformer in it. This effectively removes = the ground loop and the Blackface should then be quieter than the older Whi= te ones.

 =3B<= /P>

I informed Gibson of= this issue and suggested we send a DI box out with every unit but they wer= en't into the idea and just told me they would deal with any problems in th= e field if and when they arose. Funnily enough=2C out of the 1000 or so Bla= ckface ones we made and have been sold=2C you are the only user to find the= fault!

 =3B<= /P>

Just get yourself a = half decent DI Box. One of the ones below will probably do the trick=2C (th= e second one will almost certainly work as it has a transformer in). I trie= d several when I was experimenting and they all worked but I can't guarante= e everyone will. You might want to borrow one of someone and then if that m= odel works=2C buy your own=2C (or steal it from them :)
 = =3B

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Wed=2C 3 Mar 2010 20:22:04 +0100
S= ubject: Re: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro PlusTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

No Beige to offer Im afraid= Phil=2C but just out of interest=2C what IS the issue with your Blackface = exactly... is it ground hum? Cos my newer unit suffers from distortion (or = noise depending on how I set the input knob) I cant quite seem to get it ri= ght=2C and after all these years Im still not very sure of the technical si= de of things... My Old EDP is a horse... I can stick anyting into that it n= either hisses or distorts.... so its a bit weird...
Im kinda used to it = now actually=2C infact the distorty EDP is usually my "lead" looper=2C wher= eas the other is the bass=2C rythum and clean stuff looper...


Ma= rk



On Wed=2C Mar 3=2C 2010 at 5:18 PM=2C phillip w= ilson <=3Bphil= lwilson@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
Hi Guys=2C I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been acti= ve for a long time on here.

I have finally admitted to myself that I= need a rebuild of my pedalboard and effects rack.

I have squeezed a= s much as I possibly can out of the space I have available but have hit a s= ticking point

because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use m= y EDP and the updated CE spec=2C my blackface needs a DI box which up to no= w has sat in my racks back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back = element and I really am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is poss= ible with my 2 older whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground poin= t spec.

Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my = setup (just the way I choose to use it=2C and that the Blackface unit is ac= tually QUIETER when used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI = etc which again from my old setup I can concur.

so basically what Im= asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap their old whitefaced EDP for= a very good condition Blackface?

I would be happy to throw in TWO o= fficial controller units as a sweetener as I control all my EDPs through cu= stom pedals.

Like I say=2C if you are using your EDP in normal situa= tions you will actually get better audio to noise...I just want a final sol= ution to my ground loop on the go!!

thanks

Phill MyOneManBand=

PS Im in the UK.


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Sign-up now - Free = --_ea6c6215-80f9-4d4b-8cb8-26e48b0bd310_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 3 20:15:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B83F53BE84; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2OZZ+jXHsech1M0V3jNQmeUnMU4w4xtcsUOwYJigOiw=; b=Wi5OwGf3ggtMzVQqzWBvdFmxLB5nGrfPHk0mw6zmhIZeNJen61MVOaudijQWTuQFd5 ItaRrbZWnTK69wC5DFZWl7TunHrGQIbM7hbm2POySjxm9ihCukvfdWpgDb/gRIUuLWp7 4T2gbJdsT1x+SpuCTz7PqvYntJs10JKaP9ZPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ZVjPWVLsuav7WRh09nIMToG42FLdoFLtUZ9J/N9RWf0vGl6oIsFjJIw9uCjJZJTr/x TKeGCRpwGXV6TXufh9erJQbG3me9y3Znh/1AxmFoWeJYZH/i9tr8ocn8YQ97V78CqYvB 359Vwum17AaObTy2UKzCN5IWqaD/vZBhjSkuk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> <9ab0c76f1003031122r3bce7dd9q1d605f0df17c1878@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:15:12 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aa41812a9e786b1e Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003031215p308262bfye2d6250b4e8f9b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5be5eefb9300480eb24ac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:15:40 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5be5eefb9300480eb24ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *Thanks for the reply Phil,* *And cool BIG FONT SIZE* *I LIKE IT!* >Anyway mark, the problem you are having may be to do with a resistor drifting out of tollerance, its rare but i have heard it....if it happens on the gain staging it can cause the input to be recorded too high and distort on output. Is it happening just on the loop? not on the direct signal? Nope just the loop.. feedback of more than one layer.. will def be distorted.. I tend not to build up too much on this one... this is the one that I havecontrolled froma drum machine, so its popping about a bit.. like half speeding 16 times per bar etc.. or reversing 8 times per bar... But for those occasions where I want to loop normal stuff (Wednesdays.. usually) then it can be annoying. I had a bit of bother with this unit, changed the crystal and its a bit tempermental whether it will start up when its Brother Synched.. (It alwasy does in the end, I just have to switch it on and off about 20 times) EDPS are like Cats.. you love them, but they puke on the carpet once in a while... MArk ** * * On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:58 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > *Hi mark,* > > ** > > *no, this is deffinatly just a ground loop.* > > ** > > *I have included afterr my sign off the email from Andy Ewen (spelt it > wrong first time, sorry andy)* > > ** > > *I have always found it odd that a guitar going into an echoplex going > into a pa system is considered by gibson to be an unusual "certain > situation"...i have wrote a few times to confirm this but apparantly this is > so.* > > ** > > ** > > *can any other UK looper test this out on a black face and let me know the > results* > > ** > > *no DI and into an amp or pa with a standard uk grounded plug.* > > ** > > *Anyway mark, the problem you are having may be to do with a resistor > drifting out of tollerance, its rare but i have heard it....if it happens on > the gain staging it can cause the input to be recorded too high and distort > on output.* > > ** > > *is it happening just on the loop? not on the direct signal?* > > ** > > *Phill* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *Hi Phil,* > > * * > > *The mains filter is a standard part fitted to all Blackface EDPs.* > > *The problem you have is a known issue and all Blackface EDPs will do this > under certain situations, (i.e. yours).* > > * * > > *It is caused by the fact that when I re-designed the unit for CE > approvals and EMC testing, they made me ground the PCB in 9 separate places > instead of the original 1 position. This causes an earth-loop when certain > other equipment is used and as you say, can be eliminated by removing the > earth from the mains lead, (not a good or safe practice).* > > * * > > *However, I found a solution which is to send the output from the EDP via > a DI box, specifically one that has an isolating transformer in it. This > effectively removes the ground loop and the Blackface should then be quieter > than the older White ones.* > > * * > > *I informed Gibson of this issue and suggested we send a DI box out with > every unit but they weren't into the idea and just told me they would deal > with any problems in the field if and when they arose. Funnily enough, out > of the 1000 or so Blackface ones we made and have been sold, you are the > only user to find the fault!* > > * * > > *Just get yourself a half decent DI Box. One of the ones below will > probably do the trick, (the second one will almost certainly work as it has > a transformer in). I tried several when I was experimenting and they all > worked but I can't guarantee everyone will. You might want to borrow one of > someone and then if that model works, buy your own, (or steal it from them > :)* > > ------------------------------ > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:22:04 +0100 > Subject: Re: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > No Beige to offer Im afraid Phil, but just out of interest, what IS the > issue with your Blackface exactly... is it ground hum? Cos my newer unit > suffers from distortion (or noise depending on how I set the input knob) I > cant quite seem to get it right, and after all these years Im still not very > sure of the technical side of things... My Old EDP is a horse... I can stick > anyting into that it neither hisses or distorts.... so its a bit weird... > Im kinda used to it now actually, infact the distorty EDP is usually my > "lead" looper, whereas the other is the bass, rythum and clean stuff > looper... > > > Mark > > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > > Hi Guys, I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active for > a long time on here. > > I have finally admitted to myself that I need a rebuild of my pedalboard > and effects rack. > > I have squeezed as much as I possibly can out of the space I have available > but have hit a sticking point > > because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP and the updated > CE spec, my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has sat in my racks > back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element and I really am > keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible with my 2 older > whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spec. > > Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup (just the > way I choose to use it, and that the Blackface unit is actually QUIETER when > used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc which again from > my old setup I can concur. > > so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap their > old whitefaced EDP for a very good condition Blackface? > > I would be happy to throw in TWO official controller units as a sweetener > as I control all my EDPs through custom pedals. > > Like I say, if you are using your EDP in normal situations you will > actually get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution to my > ground loop on the go!! > > thanks > > Phill MyOneManBand > > PS Im in the UK. > > > ------------------------------ > Do you want a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > ------------------------------ > Not got a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5be5eefb9300480eb24ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for = the reply Phil,

And cool BIG FONT SIZE

I LIKE IT!

= >Anyway mark,=A0 the problem you are having may be to do with a resistor drifting out of tollerance, its rare but i have heard it....if it happens on the gain staging it can cause the input to be recorded too high and distort on output.

= =A0Is it happening just on the loop? not on the direct sig= nal?

Nope just the loop.. feedback of more tha= n one layer.. will def be distorted.. I tend not to build up too much on th= is one... this is the one that I havecontrolled froma=A0 drum machine, so i= ts popping about a bit.. like half speeding 16 times per bar etc.. or rever= sing 8 times per bar...

= But for those occasions where I want to loop normal stuff = (Wednesdays.. usually) then it can be annoying. I had a bit of bother with = this unit, changed the crystal and its a bit tempermental whether it will s= tart up when its Brother Synched.. (It alwasy does in the end, I just have = to switch it on and off about 20 times)

= EDPS are like Cats.. you love them, but they puke on the carpet once in a w= hile...


MArk








On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:= 58 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi mark,

= =A0

no, this is= deffinatly just a ground loop.

= =A0

I have incl= uded afterr my sign off the email from Andy Ewen (spelt it wrong first time= , sorry andy)

= =A0

I have alwa= ys found it odd that a guitar going into an echoplex going into a pa system= is considered by gibson to be an unusual "certain situation"...i= have wrote a few times to confirm this but apparantly this is so.

= =A0

= =A0

can any oth= er UK looper test this out on a black face and let me know the results

= =A0

no DI and i= nto an amp or pa with a standard uk grounded plug.

= =A0

Anyway mark= ,=A0 the problem you are having may be to do with a resistor drifting out o= f tollerance, its rare but i have heard it....if it happens on the gain sta= ging it can cause the input to be recorded too high and distort on output.<= /span>

= =A0

is it happe= ning just on the loop? not on the direct signal?

= =A0

Phill

= =A0

= =A0

= =A0

Hi Phil,

=A0<= /b>

The mains f= ilter is a standard part fitted to all Blackface EDPs.

The problem= you have is a known issue and all Blackface EDPs will do this under certai= n situations, (i.e. yours).

=A0<= /b>

It is cause= d by the fact that when I re-designed the unit for CE approvals and EMC tes= ting, they made me ground the PCB in 9 separate places instead of the origi= nal 1 position. This causes an earth-loop when certain other equipment is u= sed and as you say, can be eliminated by removing the earth from the mains = lead, (not a good or safe practice).

=A0<= /b>

However, I = found a solution which is to send the output from the EDP via a DI box, spe= cifically one that has an isolating transformer in it. This effectively rem= oves the ground loop and the Blackface should then be quieter than the olde= r White ones.

=A0<= /b>

I informed = Gibson of this issue and suggested we send a DI box out with every unit but= they weren't into the idea and just told me they would deal with any p= roblems in the field if and when they arose. Funnily enough, out of the 100= 0 or so Blackface ones we made and have been sold, you are the only user to= find the fault!

=A0<= /b>

Just get yo= urself a half decent DI Box. One of the ones below will probably do the tri= ck, (the second one will almost certainly work as it has a transformer in).= I tried several when I was experimenting and they all worked but I can'= ;t guarantee everyone will. You might want to borrow one of someone and the= n if that model works, buy your own, (or steal it from them :) =A0

From: mark@mark= francombe.com
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:22:04 +0100
Subject: Re: a= nyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus
To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com


No Beige to offer Im afraid Phil, but = just out of interest, what IS the issue with your Blackface exactly... is i= t ground hum? Cos my newer unit suffers from distortion (or noise depending= on how I set the input knob) I cant quite seem to get it right, and after = all these years Im still not very sure of the technical side of things... M= y Old EDP is a horse... I can stick anyting into that it neither hisses or = distorts.... so its a bit weird...
Im kinda used to it now actually, infact the distorty EDP is usually my &qu= ot;lead" looper, whereas the other is the bass, rythum and clean stuff= looper...


Mark



On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, phillip wilson <<= a href=3D"mailto:phillwilson@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">phillwilson@hot= mail.com> wrote:
Hi Guys, I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active= for a long time on here.

I have finally admitted to myself that I n= eed a rebuild of my pedalboard and effects rack.

I have squeezed as = much as I possibly can out of the space I have available but have hit a sti= cking point

because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP and the upd= ated CE spec, my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has sat in my rac= ks back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element and I reall= y am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible with my 2 olde= r whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spec.

Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup (just= the way I choose to use it, and that the Blackface unit is actually QUIETE= R when used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc which aga= in from my old setup I can concur.

so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap thei= r old whitefaced EDP for a very good condition Blackface?

I would be= happy to throw in TWO official controller units as a sweetener as I contro= l all my EDPs through custom pedals.

Like I say, if you are using your EDP in normal situations you will act= ually get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution to my ground= loop on the go!!

thanks

Phill MyOneManBand

PS Im in t= he UK.


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Chang Email: susan_shm1@yahoo.com.hk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 01:33:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0A8C3BE82; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1202 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:33:53 UTC X-WS-COS: WSOB806 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=b9BL/E1QR4AV6bohFrmMEiOlQ8PH+dLkBpuYBicWS+U= c=1 sm=0 a=7HDrXjsmGQ8A:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=_tVzqn9oCTHbFTvWEsMA:9 a=mbeAt8YMtveqlFctIyUcycS534gA:4 a=YmB37XXFlhQdVBf/LGJRyg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Message-ID: <20100303191350.J61VV.158070.root@ispmxfep14-z02> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:13:50 -0800 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Henry Kaiser/Antarctic video MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: 98.23.54.106 X-Auth-IP: 98.23.54.106 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:33:54 +0000 (UTC) A relatively new video (four months old), with beautiful under ice footage...Kaiser's soundtrack is beautiful... Here 'tis.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlER8f7vcsM Doug H From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 07:03:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 858E03BE80; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Owen Pallett Heartland Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:03:33 +0100 Message-ID: <004001cabb68$d442c920$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acq7aM2HDbMjtpb/SH6a3hCuT6DQ+A== X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.180; VDF: 7.10.4.188) Resent-Message-ID: <-yYEbD.A.mTH.Tt1jLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:03:47 +0000 (UTC) a friend gave me the "Heartland" CD of Owen Pallett. Incredible music, very idiosyncratic and hard to categorize, but melodic and very enjoyable. I hear that he does livelooping - has anyone seen him live? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 07:08:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27D673BE80; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=yVBEDT9BY0NPHTgJtDk63DT029P8MmiMa2p7rT//SCM=; b=WFqBXDhHpwK1hvaLL4HjNBTndV1OCscvlta5tGjnqLgdgOv5WGlO1I7guoQl8gAehE IZ7PsZ6A7RNYDIkH6uqvHzHmGT0ST4c8JueocKC9DQ0mJ5eReRygv2Pl/iVr29AnFuj6 sSlcnb8tSuEX6mV5ze9qYvjTz0nz5H1Fuqdo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=nQALD9PKT3idZGXlVJn/+IGPuK93i04k7zSBWwPy+dWO1ox7yf3343JzdQ0lOy8NtK Wq/qfsAAQpL1Qtz/IvQD075YHDrbZsXWsmSyNAPqt3SNJWE9nuKFwaqhuwc1svXZazoy TAg7f6nJSkS732IyAphzLTsduMD/DOz20+26g= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-30--530843815 Subject: Re: Custom pedals and pedal boards (WAS: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:10:48 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,<4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <6C2DD33C-4F0E-4B21-8EC2-F32758B41554@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:08:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-30--530843815 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd love to see a pick / hear about your custom control pedals.=20 And actually, sources for custom hard case pedal boards where you just = take the top off and roll, if you or anyone has any suggestions. On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:18 AM, phillip wilson wrote: > Hi Guys, I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active = for a long time on here. >=20 > I have finally admitted to myself that I need a rebuild of my = pedalboard and effects rack. >=20 > I have squeezed as much as I possibly can out of the space I have = available but have hit a sticking point >=20 > because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP and the = updated CE spec, my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has sat in = my racks back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element = and I really am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible = with my 2 older whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point = spec. >=20 > Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup = (just the way I choose to use it, and that the Blackface unit is = actually QUIETER when used correctly in a studio environment or through = a DI etc which again from my old setup I can concur. >=20 > so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap = their old whitefaced EDP for a very good condition Blackface? >=20 > I would be happy to throw in TWO official controller units as a = sweetener as I control all my EDPs through custom pedals. >=20 > Like I say, if you are using your EDP in normal situations you will = actually get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution to my = ground loop on the go!! >=20 > thanks >=20 > Phill MyOneManBand >=20 > PS Im in the UK. >=20 >=20 > Do you want a Hotmail account? 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I'd love to see = a pick / hear about your custom control = pedals. 

And actually, sources for custom = hard case pedal boards where you just take the top off and roll, if you = or anyone has any suggestions.

On Mar 3, 2010, at = 8:18 AM, phillip wilson wrote:

Hi Guys, I have been = out and about gigging a lot so havent been active for a long time on = here.

I have finally admitted to myself that I need a rebuild of = my pedalboard and effects rack.

I have squeezed as much as I = possibly can out of the space I have available but have hit a sticking = point

because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP = and the updated CE spec, my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has = sat in my racks back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back = element and I really am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is = possible with my 2 older whiteface edps which only have the older 1 = ground point spec.

Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing = wrong with my setup (just the way I choose to use it, and that the = Blackface unit is actually QUIETER when used correctly in a studio = environment or through a DI etc which again from my old setup I can = concur.

so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would = like to swap their old whitefaced EDP for a very good condition = Blackface?

I would be happy to throw in TWO official controller = units as a sweetener as I control all my EDPs through custom = pedals.

Like I say, if you are using your EDP in normal = situations you will actually get better audio to noise...I just want a = final solution to my ground loop on the go!!

thanks

Phill = MyOneManBand

PS Im in the UK.


Do you want a = Hotmail account? Sign-up now - = Free

= --Apple-Mail-30--530843815-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 07:15:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86B1B3BE7E; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=SF28lcw3x84jb/bAGjwxrVksdm3rATpRDIdDbpFz9AA=; b=UzL7eHL5h4YS9UGmIp8np8+/WkNnwIgBL17+5O9Fiobu4gaUBG09lLzy1ux0FujW9V 6W4E7J0HQA93c5Fv0RXyWFd5jvm/h7S5TvSnigVKPXsSpzSW1BHOtUxzi1cCvXmEplOw qwXTSKbRsI1tuzt/3q+wShTXG29oMPH4oHpEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=sZ+daTxWT/GPYgP8mt4WqQyFB0WRU7vk7xcOd7j6nUeXNK56iPclfTOaqdtQRVlCzl rQvnCUn+nKEHkR/D+xWzIdmhAu+9W3GtdvgXL8HFhfK/zLIUB3h/cGHm6dQzCN9Das8H RcFA/qfJ2rl9iOXPHZxus7zgKl9HHFZ5q1Sy8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: Owen Pallett Heartland From: Myke Atkinson In-Reply-To: <004001cabb68$d442c920$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:15:22 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <30A71950-55E7-439C-AEFD-2A2C37E53EEC@gmail.com> References: <004001cabb68$d442c920$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:15:27 +0000 (UTC) To be honest, I wasn't a huge fan of his music until I saw him live (not = that I didn't like it - it was just kind of in the take it or leave it = pile). Last year he played in Calgary as part of the Sled Island = festival at this gorgeous church downtown and I was blown away by his = live performance. Besides being devilishly charismatic, the = mini-orchestra of sounds he creates with his live looping setup is = incredible. Truly an amazing performer. Your post made me look up some videos of him, and this one, while pretty = horrible audio quality, showcases some of the ingenious and extremely = musical ways he uses his looping setup live: http://vimeo.com/7509410 -Myke On 2010-03-04, at 12:03 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > a friend gave me the "Heartland" CD of Owen Pallett. Incredible music, = very > idiosyncratic and hard to categorize, but melodic and very enjoyable. = I hear > that he does livelooping - has anyone seen him live? > -Michael >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 07:25:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFA173BE80; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:25:39 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19e1hF2Ls1e9mU3e7+FspO2tILb7Xjq/fsOgz4Nop 4to8rdEbpU3Lxpnvz3hTJfwJjXR2HkX8ahqQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: JAX9a1RzeSEqRch4kHUhW89+IGRvb0Ah X-FuHaFi: 0.69999999999999996 Resent-Message-ID: <_JOmLC.A.EzH.4B2jLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Folks I was just wondering: Now that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-to-80ies trend (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry ladies!)... Do you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it ever cool at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to stage it did look kind of cool. But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar nowadays - or is it (still) too embarrasing? best regards Buzap -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 08:05:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 295F13BE80; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <6C2DD33C-4F0E-4B21-8EC2-F32758B41554@gmail.com> Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--527606572 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Custom pedals and pedal boards (WAS: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:04:45 -0600 References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> <6C2DD33C-4F0E-4B21-8EC2-F32758B41554@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <_KIjKC.A.Qt.En2jLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:05:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--527606572 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > And actually, sources for custom hard case pedal boards where you > just take the top off and roll, if you or anyone has any suggestions. www.trailertrashpedalboards.com He'll do all the wiring for you, too, if needed. I'm getting ready to send him a bunch of stuff for a board I'm putting together. Having spoken with him at length, I don't think there's anything he couldn't do. It's all custom built and tailored to your needs. Give him (Rooster) a call. :) Jeff --Apple-Mail-5--527606572 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

And = actually, sources for custom hard case pedal boards where you just take = the top off and roll, if you or anyone has any = suggestions.


He'll do all the wiring for you, too, = if needed. I'm getting ready to send him a bunch of stuff for a board = I'm putting together. Having spoken with him at length, I don't think = there's anything he couldn't do. It's all custom built and tailored to = your needs.

Give him (Rooster) a call. = :)

Jeff
= --Apple-Mail-5--527606572-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 08:14:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70B3E3BE85; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=dCLk31GdIvwDqojf1F0iZ7vrVYaC/1+q1nOCLqiOgLo=; b=FQwoR9x1RDDl7ZobM+3/jlObZQuYXIZ6uQEY8aJDW9kphsWOapeQf1bv8TRpaJ/F/J kiKg0qWt7kIGM3IS17t9Mw0j18sGh5dmgjoldE9bl0TBelfjcNKBGLdMngGRTQgY1ix3 Go/itA9CbpHbya0PiaQd74mfBukNSxpRHEyzA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=R0jBnutNzzEL/Qgn7vQb7OqytYc9LtOOGZ/kUFiJxxkcf3/VnFe4A/QP5KT0BoGawI fru6f0w03m1nPN6hdQqDGhBQ8AcNhLRI9C24BJIw1A1OOQRkOWDB/rUkZKYWhEkS2VHk 1QIkYLTma7SPsxwJoxy1gWjTqqVNHHe22hCMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:14:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7cc7427a47b27b2 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003040014q71c41d70na290d4083eb58938@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a5fce0db160480f52f04 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:14:28 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a5fce0db160480f52f04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What do you mean embarrassing?? Was it embarrassing? Speaking as someone who had a string of sh101s and often used to stage dive with them.. I NEVER thought it was embarrassing.. and still dont, I was fucking cool ya know!!! But now I look back on it.. my haircut at the time... WoooooEeeeee! Now THAT was a mistake! Mark On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Folks > > I was just wondering: > > Now that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-to-80ies > trend (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry ladies!)... > > Do you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it ever cool > at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to stage it did look > kind of cool. > But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar nowadays - or > is it (still) too embarrasing? > > best regards > Buzap > -- > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5a5fce0db160480f52f04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What do you mean embarrassing?? Was it embarrassing? Speaking as someone wh= o had a string of sh101s and often used to stage dive with them.. I NEVER t= hought it was embarrassing.. and still dont, I was fucking cool ya know!!!<= br>
But now I look back on it.. my haircut at the time... WoooooEeeeee!
=
Now THAT was a mistake!

Mark


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
Hi Folks

I was just wondering:

Now that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-to-80ies tren= d (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry ladies!)...

Do you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it ever cool = at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to stage it did look ki= nd of cool.
But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar nowadays - or= is it (still) too embarrasing?

best regards
Buzap
--
Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser -
jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser




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http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
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http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--001636c5a5fce0db160480f52f04-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 08:16:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC4F63BE81; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003040001 References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> Message-id: <4968598F-08A7-4E7E-8836-6CEB6882DCC7@mac.com> From: Daniel Berkman To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:15:32 -0800 Cc: LD LoopersDelight Resent-Message-ID: <_fcSr.A.RFB.Ax2jLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:16:00 +0000 (UTC) I don't know, look at Imogen Heap! She's pretty hot with a Ketar! _____________________ Daniel Berkman | Colfax Musician =E2=80=A2 Producer www.danielberkman.com Contact: (415) 254-4895 On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Folks > > I was just wondering: > > Now that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-=20 > to-80ies trend (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry =20 > ladies!)... > > Do you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it =20 > ever cool at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to =20 > stage it did look kind of cool. > But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar =20 > nowadays - or is it (still) too embarrasing? > > best regards > Buzap > --=20 > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 08:18:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60F8F3BE8D; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=q/Wow6DaqpG+G4J6GbtHXFbERF8ZYCCWeBzp34HazgY=; b=qDT50Qi1awYlS9xbHMQkC9WD+aaIox42n7g0FaeOriEOipLnUAUHj4jFsFpyWVW1yu BYotzg7Vf21BMXF7aUEZ26LaUPN8P6B8RrCZs/YgFxQf0YSdtVBdcPw22F9/CjfR0jp4 0KjmiEmLau3+mxSQceBSMztmv6K3eASy4RwPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ldpKRK+h439tP1tFfGaxUg03AZkDBxg1CrfS9XLlZrObNpLEAJl7mEKLzLL/Yyf+YY FIjc4pe966D79ygYvkEof706x4VicKEBL+ioHXMTgNEhh+70V9wYKGgbc1rUzjyfHqVo MbTRTy5l4ZvHDcou97FZXuewK+24h4yr7wbFA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> <6C2DD33C-4F0E-4B21-8EC2-F32758B41554@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:17:50 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9fd76971ddf04d60 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003040017h757a6f43p884e823af7499b09@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Custom pedals and pedal boards (WAS: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d7e4460da20480f53d30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:18:12 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0d7e4460da20480f53d30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OH MY.. They are just beautiful! www.trailertrashpedalboards.com > > He'll do all the wiring for you, too, if needed. I'm getting ready to send > him a bunch of stuff for a board I'm putting together. Having spoken with > him at length, I don't think there's anything he couldn't do. It's all > custom built and tailored to your needs. > > Give him (Rooster) a call. :) > > Jeff > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0d7e4460da20480f53d30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OH MY.. They are just beautiful!




He'll do al= l the wiring for you, too, if needed. I'm getting ready to send him a b= unch of stuff for a board I'm putting together. Having spoken with him = at length, I don't think there's anything he couldn't do. It= 9;s all custom built and tailored to your needs.

Give him (Rooster) a call. :)

Jeff



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--000e0ce0d7e4460da20480f53d30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 08:24:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D3E53BE98; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:24:17 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4968598F-08A7-4E7E-8836-6CEB6882DCC7@mac.com> Message-ID: <20100304082417.253230@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> <4968598F-08A7-4E7E-8836-6CEB6882DCC7@mac.com> Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19G7rsohAxGtq7x5N9i8lUuKsl891PCmBzLTMkwF3 e/M9NJkYOhvjWaw3/MvjOESfutvlniBHAYKQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: AFypY8LFLi50AIE/kWppDJxrZml1ZJj3 X-FuHaFi: 0.69999999999999996 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:24:20 +0000 (UTC) > I don't know, look at Imogen Heap! Actually, that's why I posted this. Saw her perform last night - and she really pulled it off with that Keytar (white Roland axe). But she's got credentials as an established crazy key playing artist. The thing is: You walk into a club, see a guy with a keytar on stage - what do you think? Maybe I'm just thinking too much what people think... ;-) Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! 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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2RuxeC.A.qaC.z13jLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Ever try the Ztar?=0AAntony Hequet=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Mar 4, = 2010, at 9:15 AM, Daniel Berkman wrote:=0A=0AI don'= t know, look at Imogen Heap!=0AShe's pretty hot with a Ketar!=0A=0A________= _____________=0A=0ADaniel Berkman | Colfax=0AMusician =E2=80=A2 Producer=0A= www.danielberkman.com=0AContact: (415) 254-4895=0A=0AOn Mar 3, 2010, at 11:= 25 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote:=0A=0AHi Folks=0A=0AI was just won= dering:=0A=0ANow that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-= to-80ies trend (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry ladies!)...= =0A=0ADo you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it ever= cool at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to stage it did l= ook kind of cool.=0ABut the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a = Keytar nowadays - or is it (still) too embarrasing?=0A=0Abest regards=0ABuz= ap=0A-- =0ASicherer, schneller und einfacher. 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= --_a2ad94bd-657b-4db0-a971-1eb73ae991ba_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 10:30:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F8AF3BE80; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B8F8BBD.3000303@mnet-online.de> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:30:21 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> <4968598F-08A7-4E7E-8836-6CEB6882DCC7@mac.com> <20100304082417.253230@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20100304082417.253230@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi Buzap >> I don't know, look at Imogen Heap! > Actually, that's why I posted this. Saw her perform last night - and she really pulled it off with that Keytar (white Roland axe). > But she's got credentials as an established crazy key playing artist. > > The thing is: You walk into a club, see a guy with a keytar on stage - what do you think? I was in the Ampere club yesterday night too ;-) I do not mind a keytar. Even in the times of headset microphones for a singer a portable keyboard is a good thing - like when she sang hide and seek (solovoice quasi a capella with vocoder chords). If you use a keytar in the guitar heroe pose, then it requires to add some irony - Mrs Heap was able to do so (white keytar covered with Svarovsky Strass and giving the bad guitar heroe - both artist and audience had a good laugh). It reminded me Thomas Dolby with the SH-101 back in 1985. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 11:56:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F9703BE82; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=H3mBEQkFEy7nQeBjiswgbCsbtP3FVKWfG3mvGbh+DYA=; b=Vuq4XXr5Y9eUDgP5SOTZ5DE/2Wa8TdLyjkGLzCys6RC5URprdsLs+L2uzZFWeD9FAr jigdeDaHAu9//WT4xroyLUQNv9GZ3s+jt6gJD2XfXEvsEcqPajdrGwh36GofJl70+a3Q Xmu71VKJ9sEnnenReNEJgcXfr7UgFhl4g1J2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=i3vEWsMP+hEllSfUooS5ztlmPdAB3HE2WNVWq2zp28JwsLEXksO55Gf3m3jg751WVG Z3gZHiJoXodVFD0FF0xhE/BlT4dFAYvI50PnLhCT7xn/xRlWcrhLw6JPXw4o5ZecME27 Uw/CBuF0SXegaXWoy6Vs76ihgnz5vUS759Vmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B8F8BBD.3000303@mnet-online.de> References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> <4968598F-08A7-4E7E-8836-6CEB6882DCC7@mac.com> <20100304082417.253230@gmx.net> <4B8F8BBD.3000303@mnet-online.de> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:56:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003040356x40ada31ch242d7046a0561b78@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:56:53 +0000 (UTC) My general view is that I'd rather listen to what the musician plays on the Keytar before I I'd know if it's cool with me or not. But I think my general perception of the instrument has been badly damaged by keyboard players that sonically mimic the expression of the electric guitar. There are certain limitations with a guitar like for example the tuning range between strings that favors certain note bends within a scale. A piano style keyboard doesn't share those limitations so why the hell make it sound like a guitar then! That's such dumbing down attitude that I have rarely been thinking about the Keytar as an instrument in its own right. Which was a mistake. Of course there are musicians out there that make creative use of the Keytar, I guess their voices just didn't cut through the massive dumb-down dough ;-) I think it is nice to be able to stand up when playing an instrument because to me playing music is like dancing, and I think many musicians would agree to that. I also appreciate being able to walk around on stage when playing. Both for finding sweet spots in the stage monitoring in order to play wall and also for putting on a good show for the audience. So by this the Keytar should be a pretty sweet instrument! For electronics I prefer using an EWI but a Keytar would definitely be better for traditional chord pad playing. Keytar is not all bad, he just had some rough time slipping into bad company. We should give him a second chance and listen to what he has to say. ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 14:33:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9BB83BE82; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1267713212; bh=Bu3fmrJMaN6tR3wVg4fCUei1JL5uS3/bRJTS3JoIZpg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ci2shpoayuorWedl1ftLG/i0skMAC2MUN0cempR/jyfUlGVwnaBacAiWkrBt1bc8f6W1ZXpdhAk8Sc6vZqsOFl8IZaCts3BLF6ypyymPKYYXIZs3Lixi5fY+B0Nznn+rzwl/Cl4P0r0myAVPOPo0TfprqOKLQo0V407TFBBOW3s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ur2AbQX8vfyNx+ZDMLfh8Cq/5Z3a9giDBLRIXYNK/OU8AzYe5xeve0O5fQqVUKqC2EK13CokR753221QN5mIdGEEqZIT7OoRGHd5lRFb1nnbsoC4iLBfqLVzdNOGHM9mVWg2CixsLK/qWSz10qmADQav0gz1X3B62MO9Ufbv7VA=; Message-ID: <460115.91643.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dhtNavEVM1mplijHzwU6JYgn4_rHKyraUigyYU3IhAmUgPG yfhwBxO3L2GS4zF1ZoTcW0adKOahHMFmGEN59CJTDLvBJdqcbTWbpLfevUcC fm52zmN8lQeNCJ_Apk.0oa8D_RMEjGPGvPpdQgTYzainkB_6oNhZETEfVJyJ aJNcHzCa.ILyS3P1MERGo416tA205jUMZ1Zs7mjXqpIqO5HboFUShAVeEjvV aQup5rdSrZ4FLbx4_OAvM5dD679Z7crKnvkCJx0XfobwTPsGTix1uQx47zC1 5T3vWs0Hrvy_cMJBFkPC3q6E6DKxZig8_8J_95eMrWu6TsioglXN5Y0OrLeb Km5eh13MtKa1pRw27QlmhtvMsOA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 06:33:32 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1387671647-1267713212=:91643" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:33:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-1387671647-1267713212=:91643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If it's good enough for the "Crazy Doggz", it's good enough for me! (from Flight of the Conchords). --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Buzap Buzap wrote: From: Buzap Buzap Subject: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? To: "LD LoopersDelight" Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:25 AM Hi Folks I was just wondering: Now that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-to-80ies trend (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry ladies!)... Do you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it ever cool at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to stage it did look kind of cool. But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar nowadays - or is it (still) too embarrasing? best regards Buzap -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser --0-1387671647-1267713212=:91643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
If it's good enough for the "Crazy Doggz", it's good enough for me! (from Flight of the Conchords).


--- On Thu, 3/4/10, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

From: Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>
Subject: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not?
To: "LD LoopersDelight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:25 AM

Hi Folks

I was just wondering:

Now that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-to-80ies trend (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry ladies!)...

Do you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it ever cool at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to stage it did look kind of cool.
But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar nowadays - or is it (still) too embarrasing?

best regards
Buzap
--
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http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance-loopers-linux-musician

And its not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a 19 minute long single out here 

http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com

Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing


Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com




--Apple-Mail-103--500988484-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 15:49:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79E353BE85; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eg3vMnzPnvnwVzkUhMnUs2j4Lh73MscUUbV04vDxT5Y=; b=k5F2PdjIYKZfr5qe2ZT6BHlvzfhax5JrkskxPFv1R334l+iOKaAJy8JT2E+nNNZCG9 Xi7A9OmYpHPN5MUPQEnFpNvTXCUwzHqcWgpp/XhtSxdLl52w615daKY0JLWhlMR4gfAz on+9Y0T4MEzMkold7ms0gCdFAYXZtrTC+TF7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M5KjrgsM2pU9rq3eG7P84OzoTZEP1Ufx5GchakOI+A/vls6TYA3x6GJExyaiJD4Kz3 M0yhRqRAIq4lZqiZRaP6UccEaMEvV5xAEZ+YfjnOrClpc3paAa0YyLWS5TAxS3rpz2rF J1tgAqtX6qSVAy/hfhN/UClOC44mDg2gCXciM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8586FFFA-F74E-4C76-8E6C-C9583448A368@btinternet.com> References: <8586FFFA-F74E-4C76-8E6C-C9583448A368@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:49:18 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003040749m17ed0534g15de9b8b3654d186@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hi guys linux looping/fierce and the dead From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll have the new DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Being. I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port to it. Will chk out your new electric band. Jim On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens wrote: > Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of > you > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance-loopers- > linux-musician > > And its not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a > 19 minute long single out here > > http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com > > Is anyone else using bandcamp? 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Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote: > Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll have the new > DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Being. > > I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port to it. > > Will chk out your new electric band. > > Jim > > On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens wrote: >> Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of >> you >> >> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance- >> loopers- >> linux-musician >> >> And its not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a >> 19 minute long single out here >> >> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com >> >> Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing >> >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-107--498721892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal record is up tried = to listen on RPM but it wouldn't let me!

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 4 Mar 2010, = at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote:

Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll = have the new
DigItSignal record there soon, = Absence Of Being.

I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will = port to it.

Will chk out your new electric band.


On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com> wrote:
Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be = interesting to some of
you

linux-musician

And its = not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a
19 minute long single out here

Is anyone else using bandcamp? = Its amazing


Matt = Stevens





=

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Sent from my mobile device

ReUse, = an introspective textural aural

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social = networking...


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X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9a3952c9-304c-48a7-a35e-d348c34a4c2e_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Custom pedals and pedal boards (WAS: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:30:34 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6C2DD33C-4F0E-4B21-8EC2-F32758B41554@gmail.com> References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,<4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> ,<6C2DD33C-4F0E-4B21-8EC2-F32758B41554@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2010 16:30:34.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[03B01B50:01CABBB8] Resent-Message-ID: <4OI2lB.A.gwB.rA-jLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:30:35 +0000 (UTC) --_9a3952c9-304c-48a7-a35e-d348c34a4c2e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shouldnt be a problem=2C basically the old custom controller is a resistor = based box similar to the official one but with two offset rows spaces close= together=2C it has the same footprint as a DL4 . then i added an fcb1010 which is my main controller with the other one now = controlling my loops when i am at my drum kit=2C=20 the next step i am putting together is a hacked and resoldered fcb1010 whic= h will loose the rocker pedals and end up in another dl4 sized box =2C but = with 10 buttons in two rows of 5 ifyou need any advice just let me know From: thedarrow@gmail.com Subject: Re: Custom pedals and pedal boards (WAS: anyone want to swap their= Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus) Date: Wed=2C 3 Mar 2010 23:10:48 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I'd love to see a pick / hear about your custom control pedals.=20 And actually=2C sources for custom hard case pedal boards where you just ta= ke the top off and roll=2C if you or anyone has any suggestions. On Mar 3=2C 2010=2C at 8:18 AM=2C phillip wilson wrote:Hi Guys=2C I have be= en out and about gigging a lot so havent been active for a long time on her= e. I have finally admitted to myself that I need a rebuild of my pedalboard an= d effects rack. I have squeezed as much as I possibly can out of the space I have available= but have hit a sticking point because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP and the updated= CE spec=2C my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has sat in my racks= back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element and I really = am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible with my 2 older = whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spec. Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup (just the= way I choose to use it=2C and that the Blackface unit is actually QUIETER = when used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc which again= from my old setup I can concur. so basically what Im asking is if anyone onlist would like to swap their ol= d whitefaced EDP for a very good condition Blackface? I would be happy to throw in TWO official controller units as a sweetener a= s I control all my EDPs through custom pedals. Like I say=2C if you are using your EDP in normal situations you will actua= lly get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution to my ground l= oop on the go!! thanks Phill MyOneManBand PS Im in the UK. Do you want a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free =20 _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_9a3952c9-304c-48a7-a35e-d348c34a4c2e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shouldnt be a problem=2C basically the old custom controller is a resistor = based box similar to the official one but with two offset rows spaces close= together=2C it has the same footprint as a DL4 .

then i added an fc= b1010 which is my main controller with the other one now controlling my loo= ps when i am at my drum kit=2C

the next step i am putting together = is a hacked and resoldered fcb1010 which will loose the rocker pedals and e= nd up in another dl4 sized box =2C but with 10 buttons in two rows of 5
=
ifyou need any advice just let me know

F= rom: thedarrow@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Custom pedals and pedal boards (WA= S: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus)
Date: W= ed=2C 3 Mar 2010 23:10:48 -0800
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>


I'd love to see a pick / hear abou= t your custom control pedals. =3B

And actually= =2C sources for custom hard case pedal boards where you just take the top o= ff and roll=2C if you or anyone has any suggestions.

On = Mar 3=2C 2010=2C at 8:18 AM=2C phillip wilson wrote:

Hi= Guys=2C I have been out and about gigging a lot so havent been active for = a long time on here.

I have finally admitted to myself that I need a= rebuild of my pedalboard and effects rack.

I have squeezed as much = as I possibly can out of the space I have available but have hit a sticking= point

because of the unusual and apparantly rare way I use my EDP a= nd the updated CE spec=2C my blackface needs a DI box which up to now has s= at in my racks back part. my new design doesnt have room for a back element= and I really am keen to keep my setup plug in and go (which is possible wi= th my 2 older whiteface edps which only have the older 1 ground point spec.=

Andy Ewan has cinfirmed that there is nothing wrong with my setup (= just the way I choose to use it=2C and that the Blackface unit is actually = QUIETER when used correctly in a studio environment or through a DI etc whi= ch again from my old setup I can concur.

so basically what Im asking= is if anyone onlist would like to swap their old whitefaced EDP for a very= good condition Blackface?

I would be happy to throw in TWO official= controller units as a sweetener as I control all my EDPs through custom pe= dals.

Like I say=2C if you are using your EDP in normal situations y= ou will actually get better audio to noise...I just want a final solution t= o my ground loop on the go!!

thanks

Phill MyOneManBand
PS Im in the UK.


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Do you have a story that started on H= otmail? Tell us now = --_9a3952c9-304c-48a7-a35e-d348c34a4c2e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 16:36:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30BAA3BE88; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CdYi1wYuCsmwuGXltlisQdqLO2omkhSZMFvr3LYb0YY=; b=IaSqjAz3qZUMe0Mbbi4un1Q/UXuVuPDaCF3naIQoqxhZ6kXOqpJDVpjo5ublHIoOGW gZq7vZsakdTDlYxe3znbPiNScz6sxMAdR9r6krkBH1FzcdhEvUhf0AkQiaoeCuCI5IVN 15YVyHjYA1HPj+2MmgCvwzp2sYWQxklwddQQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ADZxJygpmfklHrgY98P1MwknzJnSrhkL2dG5eQ7+6AE6SQsdcZLK7LADJL+RArNKIm LC5FHjjDrLHCcRS/NMfnekINV0x9lBaHoSxiK8xzhVpctXDLREyxsNuPDF8QLF3w7rxz UHVi2JIizqEoff7ZixAFuQXwchlIsM/BsVxC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33BE7AA4-D7AA-47C9-B543-6925168DC555@btinternet.com> References: <8586FFFA-F74E-4C76-8E6C-C9583448A368@btinternet.com> <9e0440a61003040749m17ed0534g15de9b8b3654d186@mail.gmail.com> <33BE7AA4-D7AA-47C9-B543-6925168DC555@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:36:16 -0800 Message-ID: <4cdf3b971003040836i7be6016cx64ffa34f2c701189@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hi guys linux looping/fierce and the dead From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0a75bacb78a0480fc32ee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:36:19 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0a75bacb78a0480fc32ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fierce and the Dead is good stuff! On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal record is up tried to > listen on RPM but it wouldn't let me! > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll have the new > DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Being. > > I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port to it. > > Will chk out your new electric band. > > Jim > > On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens wrote: > > Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of > you > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance-loopers- > linux-musician > > And its not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a > 19 minute long single out here > > http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com > > Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing > > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > --001636e0a75bacb78a0480fc32ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fierce and the Dead is good stuff!

On Thu= , Mar 4, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com&= gt; wrote:
brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal record is up tried to l= isten on RPM but it wouldn't let me!


On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote:

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Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll have the new
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DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Being.

I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port to = it.

Will chk out your new electric band.

Jim

On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of
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you

linux-musician

And its not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a
<= div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:= 0px">19 minute long single out here


Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing


Matt Stevens





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--001636e0a75bacb78a0480fc32ee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 16:44:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 961433BE94; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+nYV5Sgf6nwTQO67KQOjR8jnSzFe3qhFr979JZwL QKcoWVloD7x5tG Message-ID: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:44:09 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: the death of the loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:44:12 +0000 (UTC) hi does anyone have this same problem? You write a song... It is fantastic. You find it works wonderfully with loops...You really enjoy playing it and falling into the beauty of the meditative music that is unfolding so simply and eloquently. You allow yourself to be carried away with the music... And then you realize... it is great to be carried away like this, but it is also rather boring... after a while... And you want to add variation to your song. You want to use loops but also want to add different beats and rhythms, change the loop, or just have one voice layer for a while. Make it interesting. So you make that a goal. But then you start playing the music and wham... you are being carried away again. There you are floating in the distance surrounded by beautiful repeating loops...... How does one go about killing a loop? I suppose you've just got to do it. 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Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=S3/ZYn8Ib2OKbs3yGJSy4wi+/KmLTeB1jyIiaKfum7GBaejsuxIJ5mcUt5YJrwE/YvfO5mRjsg9cgUPQM1Jy8ODwvDDz2wdNbZttU2rbYXj1fY6K4VXfKaWc/ou8t3D6; Message-ID: <20100304111658.5b5550dw0cgwck8w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:16:58 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <6GSujC.A.E0C.Ms-jLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:17:00 +0000 (UTC) I think one of the biggest challenges is how to gracefully exit a =20 loop. Here are a couple of techniques that I use: 1) A lap-dissolve While Loop A plays, I build up new loop (Loop B) -- then I reduce the =20 feedback on Loop A such that it fades out while I continue to build =20 Loop B. 2) Feedback -- an easy way to kill a loop is to decrease the feedback =20 while adding new material on top of it. Actually, one can produce an =20 ever-changing improvisation just by looping into a loop that slowly =20 fades with each iteration. 3) Stop the loop and keep playing live. That's right... just stop it =20 cold but keep playing your instrument -- you can simply improvise a =20 coda to end your song -- or of course, start to build another loop. 4) "Manual Looping" -- while your loop plays, play another loop =20 yourself -- fade out the loop but keep your Manual Loop going. Once =20 the mechanical loop is out of the mix, all that is left is your =20 real-time loop that you can work with. 5) Mangling -- take the loop and "mangle" it -- slow it down, speed it =20 up, break it up, process and distort it -- there are many ways to =20 "mangle" and, ultimately, kill a loop. I have used all these methods at one time or another. Hope this gives =20 you a few ideas. -- Kevin Quoting Nadia Salom : > hi > > does anyone have this same problem? You write a song... It is > fantastic. You find it works wonderfully with loops...You really enjoy > playing it and falling into the beauty of the meditative music that is > unfolding so simply and eloquently. You allow yourself to be carried > away with the music... > > And then you realize... it is great to be carried away like this, but > it is also rather boring... after a while... And you want to add > variation to your song. You want to use loops but also want to add > different beats and rhythms, change the loop, or just have one voice > layer for a while. Make it interesting. > > So you make that a goal. But then you start playing the music and > wham... you are being carried away again. There you are floating in the > distance surrounded by beautiful repeating loops...... > > How does one go about killing a loop? I suppose you've just got to do it. > > Best > Nadia > > > --=20 > Nadia Salom > http://www.nirmala07.net > http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 17:19:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 404BD3BE8F; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pFbarUUjvYjWPDOjLVyC9v5Wz7dZGTlrYgdqe9gasc8=; b=Liq1gt7xMW3C5n6gD01gQLn2kv5s7b830oBY0xhP8y9myBgLnm/GF9KXmcQ5RWpMBV 6EGrzywyq/YrZckQ+FmRM67IPfmQFe94ux75dThJ0X++7POf/fk9Dd4tCivGuWwZv+B/ v6ga0xzZuLNXyJ7AtAXenwZ2lp0kuG0DEHjUE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fCWqHMZ4n5EGyFeC4Xck/0q8Li+jJuUoyMHo2Yg+WxSHrg7BLkMw1UKoq/pQHechUV 9AQ8ZI1UzkMK86FVJCqCzHZrgy2nyORnnn643k8Q+OYfuHw1Wl/osrLVj5uK13WY3si8 IrENjQyocDPJuU/DKqRjsvLia984VPu+aJOig= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:19:34 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:19:37 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Nadia Salom wrote: > How does one go about killing a loop? Fora a change, try changing the loop's audio content while it is playing. Use a continuous pedal assigned to feedback for soft changes and slicing to violently replace chunks of audio in the loop. If you want to write songs, learn to write songs. Looping is different. But in a quite beautiful way; looping doesn't demand *a start* and *an ending*. It's more like the original idea of ambient music; it is going on forever and you simply tune in or tune out of the flow. I agree with you that when picking up an ambition to "write songs" out of true live looping sessions a lot of the magic is lost. But thinking closer about "composing", isn't it in fact a lame-ish workaround to synthesize the true inspiration of a good improvisation? A way to experience an adventure without exposing yourself to the risks. A trick to repeat a blissful moment many times. But some folks are good at composing. How do they manage? I'd say they are very good at simulating the inspired "first encounter experience" in music. In order to succeed with that you will have to distance yourself from the nice feeling of being part of the music as "music happens to you" in order to analyse and take notes of exactly what happens so you can repeat it and bring over a fragment of that emotion to listeners. Oops... this turned out a bit theoretical - I fully support the hands-on hints Kevin just posted as well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 17:29:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27EC23BEA4; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=JS5IIklSd4hppI0blBRPEHcqdcA94n0iA+MWuCggOIo=; b=tJZmGMkmcC1jiOfhDHkrnEcjCHCYFwaMImhdOr6H4Vui8Aky3bPYiMjf4jS+HeLQOw oH3D/Hfy5Wng1ClRG2Am81P0/PlwrAygajkEv1k6Kc+n94FE9tk/o2NQkzzsdshKMPNZ uRczUshVIxCp/2Ghh8MFGGLizIyXzmNkr6WXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=IixJdBx9jTr0QIyMjg/5BUJJPiHj1ln0ERvg68+jZx8BrvrSKogl7RL56v0YvJxHhK j7p1WhXfx6WBBtulEZSBGNoT2zboQvagU8uVU6jaJCyvEcHE6J7r5bJd+tQhhM9ZEcMA dWq0ct+kECD3TvTNOBARjW9jm+PtYMW5SVRUU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:28:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 983740288360f6d8 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c7c86685ca0480fcf025 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:29:23 +0000 (UTC) --00504502c7c86685ca0480fcf025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I like is using more than one loop.. cant speak for other loopers, but with EDP i just got to a differnt loop.. and one day I go back to the original loop, often the loop has moved on by then and the original seems..= . wel original... If you switch between loops like this working on each all the time, REPLACING rather that overdy=FAbing.. then you get more variation= . EDP is great at this... Repeater is terrible at this.. shouldnt be, it IS possible to change loops after all.. but just doent seem seamless... Of course Mobius, being based o= n EDP is also great at this.. and Im sure all the Songster type loopers ut must be a doddle.. Maybe the answer to "kill a loop" is not to kill it, just put it aside and come back later (in the song)??? Mark On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Nadia Salom wrote: > > How does one go about killing a loop? > > Fora a change, try changing the loop's audio content while it is > playing. Use a continuous pedal assigned to feedback for soft changes > and slicing to violently replace chunks of audio in the loop. > > If you want to write songs, learn to write songs. Looping is > different. But in a quite beautiful way; looping doesn't demand *a > start* and *an ending*. It's more like the original idea of ambient > music; it is going on forever and you simply tune in or tune out of > the flow. > > I agree with you that when picking up an ambition to "write songs" out > of true live looping sessions a lot of the magic is lost. But thinking > closer about "composing", isn't it in fact a lame-ish workaround to > synthesize the true inspiration of a good improvisation? A way to > experience an adventure without exposing yourself to the risks. A > trick to repeat a blissful moment many times. > > But some folks are good at composing. How do they manage? I'd say they > are very good at simulating the inspired "first encounter experience" > in music. In order to succeed with that you will have to distance > yourself from the nice feeling of being part of the music as "music > happens to you" in order to analyse and take notes of exactly what > happens so you can repeat it and bring over a fragment of that emotion > to listeners. > > Oops... this turned out a bit theoretical - I fully support the > hands-on hints Kevin just posted as well. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --00504502c7c86685ca0480fcf025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I like is using more than one loop.. cant speak for other loopers, but= with EDP i just got to a differnt loop.. and one day I go back to the orig= inal loop, often the loop has moved on by then and the original seems... we= l original... If you switch between loops like this working on each all the= time, REPLACING rather that overdy=FAbing.. then you get more variation. EDP is great at this...
Repeater is terrible at this.. shouldnt be, it I= S possible to change loops after all.. but just doent seem seamless... Of c= ourse Mobius, being based on EDP is also great at this.. and Im sure all th= e Songster type loopers ut must be a doddle..

Maybe the answer to "kill a loop" is not to kill it, just put= it aside and come back later (in the song)???

Mark


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Thu, Mar 4, 20= 10 at 5:44 PM, Nadia Salom <nadia.= salom@gmx.de> wrote:
> How does one go about killing a loop?

Fora a change, try changing the loop's audio content while it is
playing. Use a continuous pedal assigned to feedback for soft changes
and slicing to violently replace chunks of audio in the loop.

If you want to write songs, learn to write songs. Looping is
different. But in a quite beautiful way; looping doesn't demand *a
start* and *an ending*. It's more like the original idea of ambient
music; it is going on forever and you simply tune in or tune out of
the flow.

I agree with you that when picking up an ambition to "write songs"= ; out
of true live looping sessions a lot of the magic is lost. But thinking
closer about "composing", isn't it in fact a lame-ish workaro= und to
synthesize the true inspiration of a good improvisation? A way to
experience an adventure without exposing yourself to the risks. A
trick to repeat a blissful moment many times.

But some folks are good at composing. How do they manage? I'd say they<= br> are very good at simulating the inspired "first encounter experience&q= uot;
in music. In order to succeed with that you will have to distance
yourself from the nice feeling of being part of the music as "music happens to you" in order to analyse and take notes of exactly what
happens so you can repeat it and bring over a fragment of that emotion
to listeners.

Oops... this turned out a bit theoretical - I fully support the
hands-on hints Kevin just posted as well.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




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www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--00504502c7c86685ca0480fcf025-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 17:39:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BDBF3BEC0; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+xKm/m5VruQXoU8dMe+GHaaoBdOTbNQtGisI1R5oIT8=; b=qvK/Tx4TcU9SeRSpumeiMdHcF+LKvOJqsc82UZxS0LrcKx4nkXkZQGFkhMZpRpLQsl ap6E6ZihFtusIYj0lHM56Abl1JtIRr0jD0bxnBjPdjvN5Xg957uNMewMg4Wfj+toz8iC 3L9+1m+Nn/NDaUWOxntB18V2AKWHRXP0X0TDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o+ru7S0WVf/TGneFK4oeo2TEgbhMJ/eiDBH38L+hoNTP0MMIFEUXpRCCzbbLu+cgam 3ziszBgx+c7ntt+u3Ky9YvEkcC7qnsFhzVksJ4yicIdQ+kwme83dFi1zPX8yDlI3Mbrq WhyyvrLhLMdCuYwEPa7KHRR7aG+5DsAzMy7pk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33BE7AA4-D7AA-47C9-B543-6925168DC555@btinternet.com> References: <8586FFFA-F74E-4C76-8E6C-C9583448A368@btinternet.com> <9e0440a61003040749m17ed0534g15de9b8b3654d186@mail.gmail.com> <33BE7AA4-D7AA-47C9-B543-6925168DC555@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:39:08 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003040939w1ecf22ffi39af431509def5b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hi guys linux looping/fierce and the dead From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f5ae4a89fb1c0480fd13f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:39:13 +0000 (UTC) --001485f5ae4a89fb1c0480fd13f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Matt will do, there are 3 trax on our page on RPM that should play for you, let me knwo if not. here's our public page there http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,8652/Itemid,296/ . Your Fierce and The Dead sounds really cool, like the subtle ember that grows to fire approach in that track Matt. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal record is up tried to > listen on RPM but it wouldn't let me! > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll have the new > DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Being. > > I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port to it. > > Will chk out your new electric band. > > Jim > > On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens wrote: > > Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of > you > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance-loopers- > linux-musician > > And its not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a > 19 minute long single out here > > http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com > > Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing > > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001485f5ae4a89fb1c0480fd13f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt will do, there are 3 trax on our page on RPM that should play for you,= let me knwo if not.=A0 here's our public page there http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprof= iler/task,userProfile/user,8652/Itemid,296/.

Your Fierce and The Dead sounds really cool, like the subtle ember that= grows to fire approach in that track Matt.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinterne= t.com> wrote:
brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal record is up tried to l= isten on RPM but it wouldn't let me!


On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote:

=
Matt yes I've bee= n doing BC for awhile and we'll have the new
DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Being= .

I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port t= o it.

Will chk out your new electric band.

Jim

On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens <mattstevensg= uitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of
=
you

htt= p://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance-loopers-
linux-musician

And its not got mu= ch looping on it but my new electric project has a
19 minute long single out here


Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing


Matt Stevens




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--
ReUse, an introsp= ective textural aural
www.mys= pace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
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--001485f5ae4a89fb1c0480fd13f6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 18:03:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B7C63BE88; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ofwsya6+8zD8fAwYIWrEpVGY7BDxhZuiSr8DBTKyWew=; b=mk72BVEMeaMky7nL4bdbYhsZ/gcHpClNIx2hbWx02SX9CVI8F9kuk9NypDapIJNSgG XI6043cO8pkCEHvkABrqw1fW6qxgoVwNlDq/aSBhEQv4yp/YIY/5yOmfB+CeFpVUkvYu LAcAeo5znuDtquIAYxAsm8XLcQYElqGppf6Eo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PPs0FfrU5849fc9upB++Yt+9QIbROdW1k4uWpzKW0PFt5JJO+jYBtC349NPPWZcPnm 65PXHRr91bb2MKQg+HqOlkc8m8pk7HBMQnEFP6pu/TF7U9Y52Dr6vD0l5KP95VjKDNV7 m/NsyWXj7PIh2FNJwmoXAVptSiy+RsnNhiZ24= Message-ID: <4B8FF601.9090808@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:03:45 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Nadia Salom schrieb: > How does one go about killing a loop? I suppose you've just got to do it. Although changing an existing loop would also follow (some of) your goals, I will focus on killing a loop specifically. A lot has also been said by others. 1. Playing live over the loop, fade the loop and then vary what your playing...already mentioned, works fine for me. Especially if you use a kind of crossfader to gradually fade from loop to live instrument (which is playing the same thing...for the moment). 2. Reduce feedback. Now a lot of loopers don't allow you to do that, especially if you're not in overdub mode. There's a workaround: don't send your live signal into the looper and go into overdub, and the loop will fade (usually requires using a mixer). 3. The Beethoven Symphony Ending Routine: Gradually trim down your loop to increasingly smaller subsections. On the EDP (or Möbius) that would be Multiply->Record. That way, you can trim down e,g, a long chord progression to just the ending IV-V-I, then to V-I, then just to I. 4. Stop the loop. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 18:16:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 951CC3BE95; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> <6C2DD33C-4F0E-4B21-8EC2-F32758B41554@gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040017h757a6f43p884e823af7499b09@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Custom pedals and pedal boards (WAS: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:16:19 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.253.46.129 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003040017h757a6f43p884e823af7499b09@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30746-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC89DDEC28F80E-A270-180C@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:16:32 +0000 (UTC) www.trailertrashpedalboards.com pretty....but i wouldn't want to schlepp that up and down=20 stairs.....what i want to get is a music stand (black metal with holes=20 in it, must have the holes!) and velcro my little boxes to it......i=20 just can't find the ones with the holes .....:)m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 18:21:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC4963BEA9; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <16A69D07-3AE5-4069-A7CA-83163E090769@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <8CC89DDEC28F80E-A270-180C@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Custom pedals and pedal boards (WAS: anyone want to swap their Beige EDP for a Black EDP Pro Plus) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:20:30 -0600 References: <073680C7-84AE-4E89-AC40-E7923BA5B681@baymoon.com> <736226.19078.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B8D551D.9010508@googlemail.com> <6C2DD33C-4F0E-4B21-8EC2-F32758B41554@gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040017h757a6f43p884e823af7499b09@mail.gmail.com> <8CC89DDEC28F80E-A270-180C@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:21:33 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:16 PM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > www.trailertrashpedalboards.com > > > pretty....but i wouldn't want to schlepp that up and down stairs..... It goes in an ATA flight case with handles. Seems like it'd be the easiest thing in the world to carry to me--unless you had 2 or 3 of them you had to hook up together. ;) The boards with the glowing lights cost extra. They certainly look cool, though, I admit. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 18:34:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39C453BEC0; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AekV A1Q1 A/8/ BFB7 C/MJ Dng/ Dz6z EfUR Em9b GBtG GIk2 GJdu GenJ HT4H IypP JswT;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{B6FE3BC6-34F9-4157-8AA5-5E35EC7BB47F};YQBvAHYAaQBsAEAAdwBmAHUAYgBtAGMALgBlAGQAdQA=;Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:54:59 GMT;UgBFADoAIAB0AGgAZQAgAGQAZQBhAHQAaAAgAG8AZgAgAHQAaABlACAAbABvAG8AcAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CABBC4.028F982E" x-cr-puzzleid: {B6FE3BC6-34F9-4157-8AA5-5E35EC7BB47F} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: the death of the loop Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:54:59 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: the death of the loop thread-index: Acq7wF4Wmej/a7HdTRWWApXPqLOmqAAABp+A References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> From: "Ace Ovil" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:34:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CABBC4.028F982E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with Mark on this one. Thematic continuity is crucial. I'm sure this will sound sort of amateur to many of you who are computer = and sequencer savvy but it's new to me so here goes.=20 I use a turntable and scratch mixer rather than a sampler to insert = rhythms into my EDP loops (I'm a little old school). I'm not a drummer = by training so I like to take old jazz records with great drummers and = manipulate the rhythms on them to get what I need. The percussion tones = sound much better this way to me than anything I could generate with my = clumsy wielding of sticks. Because of this admittedly primitive technique, I discovered I am able = to also send output from my board (the control room mix) back into the = scratch mixer and this allows me to scratch chop and dice "against" my = own complete loop if that makes sense. In other words, I am introducing = silences, beats and scratch sounds where there previously were none.=20 Recently I have been using this technique almost exclusively to create a = rhythmic basis for the next loop on the EDP's and I think it makes for = very interesting transitions because it changes the "feel" almost = entirely but retains some musical elements of the original loop. I end = up with several loops that are rhythmically different but musically = similar that I can switch between on the EDP's and this actually works = well for chorus/verse type compositions.=20 The different rhythms force me to play really different types of guitar = lines on top of each loop but on similar musical scales. The only thing = I try to be mindful of is occasionally going back to the original loops = and adding some layers so that things don't get too uneven. This solves = the problem of the original loops sounding "original" as mark puts it. It has taken me a lot of practice to learn to do this smoothly but it is = well worth it IMHO. Anyone else on here use a similar technique? I = would love to exchange some tips. Ace From: markfrancombe@gmail.com [mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com] On Behalf = Of mark francombe Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:29 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop =20 What I like is using more than one loop.. cant speak for other loopers, = but with EDP i just got to a differnt loop.. and one day I go back to = the original loop, often the loop has moved on by then and the original = seems... wel original... If you switch between loops like this working = on each all the time, REPLACING rather that overdy=FAbing.. then you get = more variation. EDP is great at this... Repeater is terrible at this.. shouldnt be, it IS possible to change = loops after all.. but just doent seem seamless... Of course Mobius, = being based on EDP is also great at this.. and Im sure all the Songster = type loopers ut must be a doddle.. Maybe the answer to "kill a loop" is not to kill it, just put it aside = and come back later (in the song)??? Mark On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Per Boysen wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Nadia Salom wrote: > How does one go about killing a loop? Fora a change, try changing the loop's audio content while it is playing. Use a continuous pedal assigned to feedback for soft changes and slicing to violently replace chunks of audio in the loop. If you want to write songs, learn to write songs. Looping is different. But in a quite beautiful way; looping doesn't demand *a start* and *an ending*. It's more like the original idea of ambient music; it is going on forever and you simply tune in or tune out of the flow. I agree with you that when picking up an ambition to "write songs" out of true live looping sessions a lot of the magic is lost. But thinking closer about "composing", isn't it in fact a lame-ish workaround to synthesize the true inspiration of a good improvisation? A way to experience an adventure without exposing yourself to the risks. A trick to repeat a blissful moment many times. But some folks are good at composing. How do they manage? I'd say they are very good at simulating the inspired "first encounter experience" in music. In order to succeed with that you will have to distance yourself from the nice feeling of being part of the music as "music happens to you" in order to analyse and take notes of exactly what happens so you can repeat it and bring over a fragment of that emotion to listeners. Oops... this turned out a bit theoretical - I fully support the hands-on hints Kevin just posted as well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch ------_=_NextPart_001_01CABBC4.028F982E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’m with Mark on this one. Thematic continuity is = crucial.

I’m sure this will sound sort of amateur to many of = you who are computer and sequencer savvy but it’s new to me so here goes. =

I use a turntable and scratch mixer rather than a sampler = to insert rhythms into my EDP loops (I’m a little old school). = =A0I’m not a drummer by training so I like to take old jazz records with great drummers and manipulate the rhythms on them to get what I need. The = percussion tones sound much better this way to me than anything I could generate = with my clumsy wielding of sticks.

Because of this admittedly primitive technique, =A0I = discovered I am able to also send output from my board (the control room mix) back = into the scratch mixer and this allows me to scratch chop and dice = “against” my own complete loop if that makes sense. In other words, I am = introducing silences, beats and scratch sounds where there previously were none. =

Recently I have been using this technique almost = exclusively to create a rhythmic basis for the next loop on the EDP’s and I think = it makes for very interesting transitions because it changes the = “feel” almost entirely but retains some musical elements of the original loop. = =A0I end up with several loops that are rhythmically different but musically = similar that I can switch between on the EDP’s and this actually works = well for chorus/verse type compositions.

The different rhythms force me to play really different = types of guitar lines on top of each loop but on similar musical scales. The only = thing I try to be mindful of is occasionally going back to the original loops = and adding some layers so that things don’t get too uneven. This = solves the problem of the original loops sounding “original” as mark = puts it.

It has taken me a lot of practice to learn to do this = smoothly but it is well worth it IMHO. =A0Anyone else on here use a similar = technique? I would love to exchange some tips.

Ace

From:= = markfrancombe@gmail.com [mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com] On Behalf Of mark francombe
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:29 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: the death of the loop

 

What I like is using = more than one loop.. cant speak for other loopers, but with EDP i just got to a = differnt loop.. and one day I go back to the original loop, often the loop has = moved on by then and the original seems... wel original... If you switch between = loops like this working on each all the time, REPLACING rather that = overdy=FAbing.. then you get more variation.
EDP is great at this...
Repeater is terrible at this.. shouldnt be, it IS possible to change = loops after all.. but just doent seem seamless... Of course Mobius, being = based on EDP is also great at this.. and Im sure all the Songster type loopers ut = must be a doddle..

Maybe the answer to "kill a loop" is not to kill it, just put = it aside and come back later (in the song)???

Mark

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 = at 5:44 PM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
> How does one go about killing a loop?

Fora a change, try changing the loop's audio content while it is
playing. Use a continuous pedal assigned to feedback for soft = changes
and slicing to violently replace chunks of audio in the loop.

If you want to write songs, learn to write songs. Looping is
different. But in a quite beautiful way; looping doesn't demand *a
start* and *an ending*. It's more like the original idea of ambient
music; it is going on forever and you simply tune in or tune out of
the flow.

I agree with you that when picking up an ambition to "write = songs" out
of true live looping sessions a lot of the magic is lost. But = thinking
closer about "composing", isn't it in fact a lame-ish = workaround to
synthesize the true inspiration of a good improvisation? A way to
experience an adventure without exposing yourself to the risks. A
trick to repeat a blissful moment many times.

But some folks are good at composing. How do they manage? I'd say = they
are very good at simulating the inspired "first encounter = experience"
in music. In order to succeed with that you will have to distance
yourself from the nice feeling of being part of the music as = "music
happens to you" in order to analyse and take notes of exactly = what
happens so you can repeat it and bring over a fragment of that = emotion
to listeners.

Oops... this turned out a bit theoretical - I fully support the
hands-on hints Kevin just posted as well.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




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------_=_NextPart_001_01CABBC4.028F982E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 18:57:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 865843BE85; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cCWVjbYSIJ2mgguW4Mr+0XEUwjGo+fpcyR5P+GRv0mY=; b=hFTIGA9fUlgUVVdHp41LzNdPQ6sa8HGG+lsC5RHCl6qh3k6JfywqntZQizMJG+zQFB OAkLw7xBXo8nmVo/a603c1R4qqAAIWjR63VwYrdSpm9o1XqgVfDyMO2E47UFK6KtHb1J CkSGkx38//NdYsd0gmOFtoSQYjtHscu4W43l4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qHjZ3gY3pGvXG1N0sTdET8U8BP5LWCyW5fm5THO2uXFSrdGxrGSu/HJqf4P/28KHAw nQ52hDDG9m0KDN6/HWU0Xtd+/t80tIi53QMypz4ccdFkjt3vGW0VYaRPVlORcBSQzWn1 eZM0BVGSdDL6GxmiROJGqCbYaT+S+PoatchGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:57:50 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003041057x214808edja188f3c881142645@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:57:51 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Ace Ovil wrote: > =C2=A0Anyone else on here use a similar technique? Yes. I run the looper at the setting to "switch at cycle" and this gives me time after having pressed NextLoop (or a direct call like "Loop 4") to add the command Multiply before the switch happens. This copies the recent loop's content to the new loop and well in the new loop I replace short segments here and there, mostly slices like a 32d note duration. Then I go back to the orignal loop and fetch a copy to a third loop slot where I do the same procedure but a little differently. I started this technique on the EDP and took it with me when migrating to M=C3=B6bius that works the same in this regard. With M=C3=B6bius you als= o have the option of stepping back the Undo/Redo history chain, but I like the first method better since it always lets you go back to the orignal in just a blink. As you are saying, the challenge is to do it without destroying the musical material. With Mobius I use a script that lets me replace a slice of audio in the loop with a slice of my live playing audio stream but pitch changed one octave. When doing that I often play the same melody that already is in the loop while substituting slices, and the result will be a kind of granular version of the original melody with some horrific octave jumps at odd places. Don't know if it sounds good to others but it is a lot of fun! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 19:37:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 723163BE93; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BVF9+/qfJc/Uj13vAutEvKngMb7+6Negn5sW6+RT4NA=; b=AZc6y+3xOQYv/yddmw+TGhhGHUrnN99h5EdGzl3F6WU0A1PHY32tGZA2DfMr4UxgVp 9Lv4+2KEBa3cHr6Vb4exMKK3gHcwX7XnrHC7FoQIkaXukKWouSTat94y5OFOF8593+SZ 83UyX2TC8QZ+QpbsQvPRRfeBBh25QQn4h7gSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bxv+vEj+LFu3EkJ3CwYqLwfDD5LuwyjSqObmM/EVALRGUjc1p95dnj8/b5LUbNxs4e QNbLUPyjDpaML/fMW7+yvCotz18xGYjMpLyorEUikEfdokBXNgnOL/thGKUj6O0nNK/9 38iNxAgbdY5Oqrr8BpAI1ogg5XpnUpsq2srxk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003041057x214808edja188f3c881142645@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003041057x214808edja188f3c881142645@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:37:09 -0800 Message-ID: <4cdf3b971003041137v2c73407ay7244aa2a35a67978@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d3521f83ab6c0480feb995 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:37:10 +0000 (UTC) --001636d3521f83ab6c0480feb995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree that looping is a philosophy, just as much as it's a method. I thin= k however that certain concepts of convetional music playing can be combined with looping in an interesting manner. Sometimes what helps me is when I'm 10 minutes into a loop improv, listening to the loops I have going and trul= y deciding whether I would be enjoying that listening experience, if I weren'= t the one playing it. If I listen, and decide, I'd be kind of bored by this, = I change it, or find a way to end it (fade, speed shift to simulate tape slowdown, stop with a nice delay on multiple channels, giving a nice fade, play out with a fading loop...those are a few of my ending tricks). If on the other hand I listen, and think, "Man I would be LOVING this right now!!= " I play on, happily dismissing any instinct to "not play too long" as a mino= r slip in confidence, rather than any problem with the music I'm playing. I personally use 5 looper plugins in Ableton Live. This lets me add, or change certain layers and retain others, so the piece moves, but is constan= t in a way too. I do a lot of improvisation live, but I also have a list of around 20-30 rehearsed songs(that often include an improv section or outro)= , many of which have a part a, and a part b. Generally I use two different loops for rhythms, and try to come up with two chord progressions that work= s over a single bassline . Using multiple loops I also get enough layers that I can play around with, mute, reverse beat slice etc. This gives the sense of arrangement, when really it's a lot of muting and fading and beatslicing of the same 5 loops. The result is the following: http://www.sendspace.com/file/udzrhm The Ones(original) http://www.sendspace.com/file/u9d6zj Fallin(De La Soul/Teenage Fan Club Cover) http://www.sendspace.com/file/4xd156 Book Of Right On(Joanna Newsom Cover= ) http://www.sendspace.com/file/rk9uhn Alef (Instrumental improv/jam) http://www.sendspace.com/file/vcb55o Dublike(Instrumental improv/jam) http://www.sendspace.com/file/bz4f3g Morning(Instrumental improv/jam) http://www.sendspace.com/file/8i3a03 Evening(Instrumental improv/jam) On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Ace Ovil wrote: > > Anyone else on here use a similar technique? > > Yes. I run the looper at the setting to "switch at cycle" and this > gives me time after having pressed NextLoop (or a direct call like > "Loop 4") to add the command Multiply before the switch happens. This > copies the recent loop's content to the new loop and well in the new > loop I replace short segments here and there, mostly slices like a 32d > note duration. Then I go back to the orignal loop and fetch a copy to > a third loop slot where I do the same procedure but a little > differently. > > I started this technique on the EDP and took it with me when migrating > to M=F6bius that works the same in this regard. With M=F6bius you also > have the option of stepping back the Undo/Redo history chain, but I > like the first method better since it always lets you go back to the > orignal in just a blink. > > As you are saying, the challenge is to do it without destroying the > musical material. With Mobius I use a script that lets me replace a > slice of audio in the loop with a slice of my live playing audio > stream but pitch changed one octave. When doing that I often play the > same melody that already is in the loop while substituting slices, and > the result will be a kind of granular version of the original melody > with some horrific octave jumps at odd places. Don't know if it sounds > good to others but it is a lot of fun! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --001636d3521f83ab6c0480feb995 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree that looping is a philosophy, just as much as it's a metho= d. I think however that certain concepts of convetional music playing can b= e combined with looping in an interesting manner. Sometimes what helps me i= s when I'm 10 minutes into a loop improv, listening to the loops I have= going and truly deciding whether I would be enjoying that listening experi= ence, if I weren't the one playing it. If I listen, and decide, I'd= be kind of bored by this, I change it, or find a way to end it (fade, spee= d shift to simulate tape slowdown, stop with a nice delay on multiple chann= els, giving a nice fade, play out with a fading loop...those are a few of m= y ending tricks). If on the other hand I listen, and think, "Man I wou= ld be LOVING this right now!!" I play on, happily dismissing any insti= nct to "not play too long" as a minor slip in confidence, rather = than any problem with the music I'm playing.
I personally use 5 looper plugins in Ableton Live. This lets me add, o= r change certain layers and retain others, so the piece moves, but is const= ant in a way too. I do a lot of improvisation live, but I also have a list = of around 20-30 rehearsed songs(that often include an improv section or out= ro), many of which have a part a, and a part b. Generally I use two differe= nt loops for rhythms, and try to come up with two chord progressions that w= orks over a single bassline . Using multiple loops I also get enough layers= that I can play around with, mute, reverse beat slice etc. This gives the = sense of arrangement, when really it's a lot of muting and fading and b= eatslicing of the same 5 loops. The result is the following:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/udz= rhm=A0 The Ones(original)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/u9d6zj=A0=A0= =A0 Fallin(De La Soul/Teenage Fan Club Cover)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rk9uhn=A0=A0= =A0=A0 Alef (Instrumental improv/jam)
http:= //www.sendspace.com/file/vcb55o=A0=A0=A0 Dublike(Instrumental improv/ja= m)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bz4f3g=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 Morning(Instrumental improv/jam)
= http://www.sendspace.com/file/8i3a03=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Evening(Instrumenta= l improv/jam)


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Ace Ovil <aovil@wfubmc.edu> wrote:
> =A0Anyone else on here use a similar technique?

Yes. I run the looper at the setting to "switch at cycle" a= nd this
gives me time after having pressed NextLoop (or a direct call like
"Loop 4") to add the command Multiply before the switch happens. = This
copies the recent loop's content to the new loop and well in the new loop I replace short segments here and there, mostly slices like a 32d
note duration. Then I go back to the orignal loop and fetch a copy to
a third loop slot where I do the same procedure but a little
differently.

I started this technique on the EDP and took it with me when migrating
to M=F6bius that works the same in this regard. With M=F6bius you also
have the option of stepping back the Undo/Redo history chain, but I
like the first method better since it always lets you go back to the
orignal in just a blink.

As you are saying, the challenge is to do it without destroying the
musical material. With Mobius I use a script that lets me replace a
slice of audio in the loop with a slice of my live playing audio
stream but pitch changed one octave. When doing that I often play the
same melody that already is in the loop while substituting slices, and
the result will be a kind of granular version of the original melody
with some horrific octave jumps at odd places. Don't know if it sounds<= br> good to others but it is a lot of fun!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1588515613-1267734934=:83896" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:35:36 +0000 (UTC) --0-1588515613-1267734934=:83896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii someone said: 5) Mangling -- take the loop and "mangle" it -- slow it down, speed it up, break it up, process and distort it -- there are many ways to "mangle" and, ultimately, kill a loop. ok, HOW IN THE F*** do you do this w/ a boss rc20? i mean you could reverse it, which is what i would do... but that was the problem i ran into w/ that unit, and why i got rid of it, and honestly in the yr i had it, i used it rarely.... the few times i would use it, i'd do something, actually save it, etc and almost all of the time, i would play one of the 11 saved loops and i would listen and think to myself-why did i save that - it sounds like CRAP... that's sort of why the whole storage mentality means nothing too me. whereas my old dod d12 i would play some loop (whether it was 12 sec or short one) , stay w/ it a bit, then i'd play w/ it, by turning the wheel to make it long or short, play over that, etc etc. a much better system for me, and in all the recordings i did of those explorations they were usually things much more interesting to me.... if you can see a pattern-i much prefer delay based looping.... to just static-phrase sample looping.... s-- --0-1588515613-1267734934=:83896 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
someone said:
5) Mangling -- take the loop and "mangle" it -- slow it down, speed it  
up, break it up, process and distort it -- there are many ways to  
"mangle" and, ultimately, kill a loop.

ok, HOW IN THE F*** do you do this w/ a boss rc20? i mean you could 
reverse it, which is what i would do...
but that was the problem i ran into w/ that unit, and why i got rid 
of it, and honestly in the yr i had it, i used it rarely....
the few times i would use it, i'd do something, actually save it, etc
and almost all of the time, i would play one of the 11 saved loops
and i would listen and think to myself-why did i save that -
it sounds like CRAP... that's sort of why the whole storage mentality
means nothing too me. 
whereas my old dod d12 i would play some loop (whether it was 12 sec
or short one) , stay w/ it a
 bit, then i'd play w/ it, by turning the
wheel to make it long or short, play over that, etc etc. a much better
system for me, and in all the recordings i did of those explorations
they were usually things much more interesting to me....
if you can see a pattern-i much prefer delay based looping....
to just static-phrase sample looping....
s--


--0-1588515613-1267734934=:83896-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 21:17:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36BD93BE81; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7/VNaoZTArtkQDaNj98TuuCs7luN3uA2PY4eqS2Se1o=; b=x25Myduix9kHoNEZWXExue77zRcJcaUKLdGFz6LlHy3yPi13VdEB6i3XQ7H0t+5iWG n6EFNjCqlEIGE8zLRop45QmjTM828zOC3hAAkOWLd+g1XyoZ+m77tH0ZTQShUMozwcwb sUMJPhQlufD+D4qn+G2lL+KF9QfS0T/h+1G1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QoFQJaO0jOYGYbUxxseTokecyI+hIQWYNXUeNzlWGrUuCRJFiIXgiSWjJyjdsEL6qG mxEWcGTab8F5Q4rry7LAsGhuZ6LIKW3lzSqWLmOz/ZW1pglQ9wtzMEkWhlSmvGXxKs/+ jZf4lT9quPHYBOAqpo9m/DqEtsCRKxjOWjFPY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <460115.91643.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> <460115.91643.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:17:49 -0800 Message-ID: <4cdf3b971003041317o19312f36x68b96ee6c05289d0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d349b6839ae10481002178 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:17:50 +0000 (UTC) --001636d349b6839ae10481002178 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 See also Page McConnell (from Phish) in most versions of Frankenstein in 2009(as seen here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE8BbEeNjLw ). I think an artist has to seem as though they understand the inherent comedy of a Keytar, in order to make it cool. That specific Keytar Page is using is actually made even cooler by the fact that it's a Moog, and it was owned by James Brown! On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > If it's good enough for the "Crazy Doggz", it's good enough for me! (from > Flight of the Conchords). > > > --- On *Thu, 3/4/10, Buzap Buzap * wrote: > > > From: Buzap Buzap > Subject: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? > To: "LD LoopersDelight" > Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:25 AM > > > Hi Folks > > I was just wondering: > > Now that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-to-80ies > trend (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry ladies!)... > > Do you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it ever cool > at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to stage it did look > kind of cool. > But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar nowadays - or > is it (still) too embarrasing? > > best regards > Buzap > -- > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > > --001636d349b6839ae10481002178 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See also Page McConnell (from Phish) in most versions of Frankenstein in 20= 09(as seen here:ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlE8BbEeNjLw=A0). I think an artist has t= o seem as though they understand the inherent comedy of a Keytar, in order = to make it cool. That specific Keytar Page is using is actually made even c= ooler by the fact that it's a Moog, and it was owned by James Brown!
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Paul Richard= s <paul= richard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
If it's good enough for the &quo= t;Crazy Doggz", it's good enough for me! (from Flight of the Conch= ords).


--- On Thu, 3/4/10, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

From: Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>
Subject: OT: Is Keytar cool (ag= ain) or not?
To: "LD LoopersDelight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= >
Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:25 AM


Hi Folks

I was just wondering:

Now that Keytar re-surfac= ed again along with the current back-to-80ies trend (oh, these leggings sti= ll look horrible - sorry ladies!)...

Do you think it is cool again? = The question is of course: Was it ever cool at all? Well, at least, when He= rbie Hancock took it to stage it did look kind of cool.
But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar nowadays - or= is it (still) too embarrasing?

best regards
Buzap
--
Sich= erer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser -
jetzt ko= stenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser



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Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yl9SGhJjasjgV433OQvhZm6E0rJ6ohbFs6WC9jRdeHQ=; b=ejXaHMrABx9ko0CD8wwaQrVAtZJ9ek5A8IvLOu6MjzzyM1AFDLQwRcwiktYzrYhgq5 xGQu6p3+DE5pt8ZqwTYWu2BgbaApnUUmbS7cucgcRlSkFBe7xJSVBJTHJpxsgY3xj01r KBH2DJS1ICsZLIxZcNvQyirB9C6JtrxHdvr/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a4haIqmEhk6LjxwJLL1D1WxJyzhYKJNjPrhAYxZg0xubLd1RO0CWV6tPM8NyL//HOC H3cpVmmMwZVx7ePmbC3x4e7a/koSoEXAWaE9Z6+hWeXJMWT11OYHbBXczw03b1xLXeCt Bpl5Ljc5om0RNKiZfolJMzCoDJK6prIPzIpn0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4cdf3b971003041317o19312f36x68b96ee6c05289d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> <460115.91643.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4cdf3b971003041317o19312f36x68b96ee6c05289d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:36:01 +0000 Message-ID: <3c7bd9f11003041336q19c5fa36tcc33893d7fb7ba1f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? From: Steve Moyes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f20c4aa3d33a04810062cf Resent-Message-ID: <-7QobB.A.-YE.DfCkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:36:03 +0000 (UTC) --001485f20c4aa3d33a04810062cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ah, but wouldn't you rather have a proper version of Frankenstein with a proper http://bit.ly/PoF3u keyboard? Steve On 4 March 2010 21:17, Rafael Nunes wrote: > See also Page McConnell (from Phish) in most versions of Frankenstein in > 2009(as seen here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE8BbEeNjLw ). I think an > artist has to seem as though they understand the inherent comedy of a > Keytar, in order to make it cool. That specific Keytar Page is using is > actually made even cooler by the fact that it's a Moog, and it was owned by > James Brown! > > --001485f20c4aa3d33a04810062cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, but wouldn't you rather have a proper version of Frankenstein with = a=20
proper http://bit.ly/PoF3u=20 keyboard?

Steve

On 4 March 2010 21= :17, Rafael Nunes <supersimples@gmail.com> wrote:
See also Page McConnell (from Phish) in most versions of Frankenstein in 20= 09(as seen here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlE8BbEeNjLw=A0). I thi= nk an artist has to seem as though they understand the inherent comedy of a= Keytar, in order to make it cool. That specific Keytar Page is using is ac= tually made even cooler by the fact that it's a Moog, and it was owned = by James Brown!


--001485f20c4aa3d33a04810062cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 21:37:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 078583BE88; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Gq9xGWyU4hSsZld1cUtW/TwohFFgRZfYz2lvL3rBoQmuyEgyzgz6xauKBCnF5DKU8TR7IKd62SQg25qC+sFiJQCLL993VOSSSklV+JKhT2L9c+syN3zDquGy8/0JkFGQ; Message-ID: <20100304153730.xskjnknnpwoc0o4k@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:37:30 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of a loop... References: <268692.83896.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <268692.83896.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Quoting scott hansen : > > someone said: > 5) Mangling -- take the loop and "mangle" it -- slow it down, speed it > up, break it up, process and distort it -- there are many ways to > "mangle" and, ultimately, kill a loop. > > ok, HOW IN THE F*** do you do this w/ a boss rc20? i mean you could > reverse it, which is what i would do... > The RC50 had the same limitation -- that is, the feedback is either zero or 100% with no midpoint. Any device can have feedback, though -- you simply have to feed some of the output back into the input. You could do this with an RC20 however you would need an external mixer which simply adds to the gear you have to carry around. From fifa1902@live.com Thu Mar 4 21:58:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 54807 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:58:00 UTC Received: from mail.udo.edu.ve (mail.udo.edu.ve [150.186.64.16]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3403BE7E for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8612 invoked by uid 1010); 3 Mar 2010 11:31:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by mail (envelope-from , uid 1008) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.92.1/5777. spamassassin: 3.2.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 22:35:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4B193BE7C; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:35:24 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4B8F8BBD.3000303@mnet-online.de> Message-ID: <20100304223524.149010@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> <4968598F-08A7-4E7E-8836-6CEB6882DCC7@mac.com> <20100304082417.253230@gmx.net> <4B8F8BBD.3000303@mnet-online.de> Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19gjJQ8e2pgMFBo4r6OOEMxg8opR7VacToQsNBL+1 wiYwylM3rWyPbfP6qbbXFXTLP46O+zQJNEyA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: mw2lf35wRkkNct1hiGVqZwRudWkvKNMp X-FuHaFi: 0.68999999999999995 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks > I was in the Ampere club yesterday night too ;-) @Florian: cool :) It was a really nice ambient. Loved the show :) Concernin Ztar: Dude, this just looks exactly like guitar heroe ;-)) @Per: I confess, I actually love playing those wonderful guitar patches on the keyboard, mimicking Van Halen etc ;-)) No, guys, my final conclusion: Keytars are for self-pitying keyboarders who wish they'd be as cool as guitar players... ;-) Buzap -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. 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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 23:05:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 322873BE87; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B9020E5.5010600@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:06:45 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:05:33 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Mark Mahoney and Michael Peck. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Gallery of Subtle Smiles" by Mahoney and Peck on Waiting World Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 23:14:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0F683BE86; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003040238 Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? From: Daniel Berkman X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: <20100304082417.253230@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:14:29 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <98CE77F5-38E3-4087-B284-ABF4A573ACDB@mac.com> References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> <4968598F-08A7-4E7E-8836-6CEB6882DCC7@mac.com> <20100304082417.253230@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:14:32 +0000 (UTC) I think it depends on your act. My act is deliberately retro. For instance, I use a Casio DG-20 digital = guitar on stage, mostly to trigger old samples from reel to reel and cassette tapes. So there's a "conceptual" approach to = using a cheesy vintage electronic instrument. Isn't she playing the Keytar through a vocoder? That's pretty unique! = Eat your heart out, Jan Hammer! ; ) Cheers, Daniel On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:24 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> I don't know, look at Imogen Heap! >=20 > Actually, that's why I posted this. Saw her perform last night - and = she really pulled it off with that Keytar (white Roland axe).=20 > But she's got credentials as an established crazy key playing artist. >=20 > The thing is: You walk into a club, see a guy with a keytar on stage - = what do you think? >=20 > Maybe I'm just thinking too much what people think... ;-) >=20 > Buzap > --=20 > GRATIS f=FCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 23:14:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 292723BE91; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003040238 Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? From: Daniel Berkman In-reply-to: <937676.26810.qm@web65605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:14:49 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <608CBC99-6DE5-44AA-AB38-C41E64974392@mac.com> References: <937676.26810.qm@web65605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:14:51 +0000 (UTC) No shit! : ) On Mar 4, 2010, at 1:29 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > Ever try the Ztar? > Antony Hequet >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Daniel Berkman = wrote: >=20 > I don't know, look at Imogen Heap! > She's pretty hot with a Ketar! >=20 > _____________________ >=20 > Daniel Berkman | Colfax > Musician =95 Producer > www.danielberkman.com > Contact: (415) 254-4895 >=20 > On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >=20 > Hi Folks >=20 > I was just wondering: >=20 > Now that Keytar re-surfaced again along with the current back-to-80ies = trend (oh, these leggings still look horrible - sorry ladies!)... >=20 > Do you think it is cool again? The question is of course: Was it ever = cool at all? Well, at least, when Herbie Hancock took it to stage it did = look kind of cool. > But the thing is: Would you want to be on stage with a Keytar nowadays = - or is it (still) too embarrasing? >=20 > best regards > Buzap > --=20 > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 4 23:44:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 787A23BE84; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <642AA60A-0BDC-48FF-8AEC-B8A6F946438F@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20100304185751.CBA283BE8C@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--471201819 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Custom pedals and pedal boards Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:44:50 -0800 References: <20100304185751.CBA283BE8C@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:44:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--471201819 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've enjoyed using these http://www.pedaltrain.com/Home, I have two Pro's , one for my stomp box pedals and one for my looping control stuff. they are made of aluminum, they aren't too heavy. A less pricey alternative to the trailer trash stuff. Bill --Apple-Mail-2--471201819 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've enjoyed using these http://www.pedaltrain.com/Home, I have two Pro's , one for my stomp box pedals and one for my looping control stuff.  they are made of aluminum, they aren't too heavy. A less pricey alternative to the trailer trash stuff.

Bill
 
--Apple-Mail-2--471201819-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 00:06:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCF683BE7E; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 305 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:06:00 UTC Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:00:47 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on hons_100/Servers/FarmersInsurance(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 03/04/2010 06:00:51 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:06:00 +0000 (UTC) I will be out of the office starting 03/04/2010 and will not return until 03/08/2010. 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Thank you.***** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 00:10:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C99983BE7E; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=DX4fuuh1qp7bY/RmnAaK+WLbieh9tqcQeD5CUZ6wlEq6PSqAbAlaZcaTQlPDoK3nXT+9cDti7+lw4Lufh44yviDKoIys8Ff+HgfbpcdbCrWDAhCkSe30zEsCo/1VPgh+xBZTtb5yWaTaQwGsOyXKCYVQ+SfIAsCcqOPygK4fvTI= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1267747829; bh=fkG2MwiyNqq2JG9dkELpkM8J1msnBQgjQnhETAoJmZw=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=bOXH+xk90WuMLfrompUuMY4XFOh4H5caox8jIwZxlfx+W+RM+8fDBeBxG1eCsm8Q2jF45l/ralO2T3n5h/E5mSmHBok2IPNN5ECvTQD/csgH/y7e1WHsFBTNyItxXMKeIwmhpaFwv+LzVA0uVnkWzFqVZBPUvNu1xPDlAWg0jPw= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: LJ3tx.gVM1nE875ND_j8K9CCSo7yipg6.RJxA28jReB5CjRGGBHCECUhohwmUziGpcya9ZXUePHB2ptRi4Oejt05ViMZT5MdDGI_zWnv15xvgnGDMNTeo7NAjDqvyRB5aP3s_XlIo.O.wufpNG2w.t.W5.mOE2UHMX5mAHttbaCpuOMESOKb5i7wKHOUwE1Xt24fWz53KQ3tHsP5KHbBzm5zEMvDtxC_QVTSExGtYFs98rjXzKJ7b_m.2g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-118--469667990 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:10:24 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:10:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-118--469667990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Oh no - I have telecom issues!!! damn Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 5 Mar 2010, at 00:00, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: > > > > > I will be out of the office starting 03/04/2010 and will not > return until > 03/08/2010. > > For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg > Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. > > ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any > documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged > and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the > addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended > addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, > disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of > this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may > result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender > advising of the error in transmission and immediately > delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank > you.***** > --Apple-Mail-118--469667990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Oh no - I have telecom = issues!!!

damn

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 5 Mar 2010, = at 00:00, peter.leinhos@farmersin= surance.com wrote:





I will be out of the office starting  03/04/2010 and will not = return until
03/08/2010.

For = telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact = Greg
Bouffard @ 323 932 = 3793.

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= --Apple-Mail-118--469667990-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 00:38:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 551353BE80; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18NIlxlcdsNXoGtY2pMmI5PCXIVV/LYeFBGyk3+OJ P0aHFvaVEny7OI Message-ID: <4B905289.5090701@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:38:33 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <20100304111658.5b5550dw0cgwck8w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20100304111658.5b5550dw0cgwck8w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090701010308020307060203" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.52000000000000002,0.52000000000000002 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:38:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090701010308020307060203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thank you to all of you... My answers in black... @Kevin... They are good to take note of and use. I like this one the best. > 5) Mangling -- take the loop and "mangle" it -- slow it down, speed it > up, break it up, process and distort it -- there are many ways to > "mangle" and, ultimately, kill a loop. I can imagine myself squeezing the life out of the loop till the blood spurts out... lol!.. but maybe not all the time... @Per If you want to write songs, learn to write songs. Looping is different. But in a quite beautiful way; looping doesn't demand *a start* and *an ending*. It's more like the original idea of ambient music; it is going on forever and you simply tune in or tune out of the flow. Yes, the idea does not need manifest itself continuously. That is how structure can come in. I agree with you that when picking up an ambition to "write songs" out of true live looping sessions a lot of the magic is lost. But thinking closer about "composing", isn't it in fact a lame-ish workaround to synthesize the true inspiration of a good improvisation? A way to experience an adventure without exposing yourself to the risks. A trick to repeat a blissful moment many times. But some folks are good at composing. How do they manage? I'd say they are very good at simulating the inspired "first encounter experience" in music. In order to succeed with that you will have to distance yourself from the nice feeling of being part of the music as "music happens to you" in order to analyse and take notes of exactly what happens so you can repeat it and bring over a fragment of that emotion to listeners. Yes I agree with Mark S on this one. It is possible and takes hard work and practicing. @Mark Francombe What I like is using more than one loop.. cant speak for other loopers, but with EDP i just got to a differnt loop.. and one day I go back to the original loop, often the loop has moved on by then and the original seems... wel original... If you switch between loops like this working on each all the time, REPLACING rather that overdyĂºbing.. then you get more variation. EDP is great at this... Repeater is terrible at this.. shouldnt be, it IS possible to change loops after all.. but just doent seem seamless... Of course Mobius, being based on EDP is also great at this.. and Im sure all the Songster type loopers ut must be a doddle.. Maybe the answer to "kill a loop" is not to kill it, just put it aside and come back later (in the song)??? I use Ableton. And I havent really got it down yet. But I suppose I can put two loop plugins in two different tracks. I just need two pedals for that. And practice... @Rainer 1. Playing live over the loop, fade the loop and then vary what your playing...already mentioned, works fine for me. Especially if you use a kind of crossfader to gradually fade from loop to live instrument (which is playing the same thing...for the moment). 2. Reduce feedback. Now a lot of loopers don't allow you to do that, especially if you're not in overdub mode. There's a workaround: don't send your live signal into the looper and go into overdub, and the loop will fade (usually requires using a mixer). 3. The Beethoven Symphony Ending Routine: Gradually trim down your loop to increasingly smaller subsections. On the EDP (or Möbius) that would be Multiply->Record. That way, you can trim down e,g, a long chord progression to just the ending IV-V-I, then to V-I, then just to I. 4. Stop the loop. Yeah... it is just so painful to stop the loop. @Scott I agree that looping is a philosophy, just as much as it's a method. I think however that certain concepts of convetional music playing can be combined with looping in an interesting manner. Sometimes what helps me is when I'm 10 minutes into a loop improv, listening to the loops I have going and truly deciding whether I would be enjoying that listening experience, if I weren't the one playing it. If I listen, and decide, I'd be kind of bored by this, I change it, or find a way to end it (fade, speed shift to simulate tape slowdown, stop with a nice delay on multiple channels, giving a nice fade, play out with a fading loop...those are a few of my ending tricks). If on the other hand I listen, and think, "Man I would be LOVING this right now!!" I play on, happily dismissing any instinct to "not play too long" as a minor slip in confidence, rather than any problem with the music I'm playing. I personally use 5 looper plugins in Ableton Live. This lets me add, or change certain layers and retain others, so the piece moves, but is constant in a way too. I do a lot of improvisation live, but I also have a list of around 20-30 rehearsed songs(that often include an improv section or outro), many of which have a part a, and a part b. Generally I use two different loops for rhythms, and try to come up with two chord progressions that works over a single bassline . Using multiple loops I also get enough layers that I can play around with, mute, reverse beat slice etc. This gives the sense of arrangement, when really it's a lot of muting and fading and beatslicing of the same 5 loops. The result is the following: http://www.sendspace.com/file/udzrhm The Ones(original) Yes thanks it is good to here how it works for others too. i listened to the "The Ones" I really liked it when you started rapping. @Mark Showalter This is called learning& practicing not performing. For myself once I have a piece under my fingers& voiced I can get completely lost in the music. I agree with this with all my heart. It just needs to become routine for my fingers and in this case ... for my feet too... c u all nadia -- Nadia Salom http://www.nirmala07.net http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 --------------090701010308020307060203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thank you to all of you... My answers in black...

@Kevin... They are good to take note of and use. I like this one the best.
5) Mangling -- take the loop and "mangle" it -- slow it down, speed it up, break it up, process and distort it -- there are many ways to "mangle" and, ultimately, kill a loop.
I can imagine myself squeezing the life out of the loop till the blood spurts out... lol!.. but maybe not all the time...

@Per
If you want to write songs, learn to write songs. Looping is
different. But in a quite beautiful way; looping doesn't demand *a
start* and *an ending*. It's more like the original idea of ambient
music; it is going on forever and you simply tune in or tune out of
the flow.

Yes, the idea does not need manifest itself continuously. That is how structure can come in.


I agree with you that when picking up an ambition to "write songs" out
of true live looping sessions a lot of the magic is lost. But thinking
closer about "composing", isn't it in fact a lame-ish workaround to
synthesize the true inspiration of a good improvisation? A way to
experience an adventure without exposing yourself to the risks. A
trick to repeat a blissful moment many times.

But some folks are good at composing. How do they manage? I'd say they
are very good at simulating the inspired "first encounter experience"
in music. In order to succeed with that you will have to distance
yourself from the nice feeling of being part of the music as "music
happens to you" in order to analyse and take notes of exactly what
happens so you can repeat it and bring over a fragment of that emotion
to listeners.

Yes I agree with Mark S on this one. It is possible and takes hard work and practicing.

@Mark Francombe

What I like is using more than one loop.. cant speak for other loopers, but with EDP i just got to a differnt loop.. and one day I go back to the original loop, often the loop has moved on by then and the original seems... wel original... If you switch between loops like this working on each all the time, REPLACING rather that overdyĂºbing.. then you get more variation.
EDP is great at this...
Repeater is terrible at this.. shouldnt be, it IS possible to change loops after all.. but just doent seem seamless... Of course Mobius, being based on EDP is also great at this.. and Im sure all the Songster type loopers ut must be a doddle..

Maybe the answer to "kill a loop" is not to kill it, just put it aside and come back later (in the song)???

I use Ableton. And I havent really got it down yet. But I suppose I can put two loop plugins in two different tracks. I just need two pedals for that. And practice...

@Rainer

1. Playing live over the loop, fade the loop and then vary what your playing...already mentioned, works fine for me. Especially if you use a kind of crossfader to gradually fade from loop to live instrument (which is playing the same thing...for the moment).

2. Reduce feedback. Now a lot of loopers don't allow you to do that, especially if you're not in overdub mode. There's a workaround: don't send your live signal into the looper and go into overdub, and the loop will fade (usually requires using a mixer).

3. The Beethoven Symphony Ending Routine: Gradually trim down your loop to increasingly smaller subsections. On the EDP (or Möbius) that would be Multiply->Record. That way, you can trim down e,g, a long chord progression to just the ending IV-V-I, then to V-I, then just to I.

4. Stop the loop.

Yeah... it is just so painful to stop the loop.

@Scott

I agree that looping is a philosophy, just as much as it's a method. I think however that certain concepts of convetional music playing can be combined with looping in an interesting manner. Sometimes what helps me is when I'm 10 minutes into a loop improv, listening to the loops I have going and truly deciding whether I would be enjoying that listening experience, if I weren't the one playing it. If I listen, and decide, I'd be kind of bored by this, I change it, or find a way to end it (fade, speed shift to simulate tape slowdown, stop with a nice delay on multiple channels, giving a nice fade, play out with a fading loop...those are a few of my ending tricks). If on the other hand I listen, and think, "Man I would be LOVING this right now!!" I play on, happily dismissing any instinct to "not play too long" as a minor slip in confidence, rather than any problem with the music I'm playing.
I personally use 5 looper plugins in Ableton Live. This lets me add, or change certain layers and retain others, so the piece moves, but is constant in a way too. I do a lot of improvisation live, but I also have a list of around 20-30 rehearsed songs(that often include an improv section or outro), many of which have a part a, and a part b. Generally I use two different loops for rhythms, and try to come up with two chord progressions that works over a single bassline . Using multiple loops I also get enough layers that I can play around with, mute, reverse beat slice etc. This gives the sense of arrangement, when really it's a lot of muting and fading and beatslicing of the same 5 loops. The result is the following:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/udzrhm  The Ones(original)

Yes thanks it is good to here how it works for others too. i listened to the "The Ones" I really liked it when you started rapping.


@Mark Showalter 

This is called learning & practicing not performing. For myself once I have a piece under my fingers & voiced I can get completely lost in the music. 

I agree with this with all my heart. It just needs to become routine for my fingers and in this case ... for my feet too...

c u all


nadia




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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) Subject: Re: the death of the loop Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 01:55:46 +0100 References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8gC47D.A.rb.VdFkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:59:01 +0000 (UTC) > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Nadia Salom > wrote: >> How does one go about killing a loop? > > Fora a change, try changing the loop's audio content while it is > playing. Use a continuous pedal assigned to feedback for soft changes > and slicing to violently replace chunks of audio in the loop. > > If you want to write songs, learn to write songs. Looping is > different. But in a quite beautiful way; looping doesn't demand *a > start* and *an ending*. It's more like the original idea of ambient > music; it is going on forever and you simply tune in or tune out of > the flow. > > I agree with you that when picking up an ambition to "write songs" out > of true live looping sessions a lot of the magic is lost. But thinking > closer about "composing", isn't it in fact a lame-ish workaround to > synthesize the true inspiration of a good improvisation? A way to > experience an adventure without exposing yourself to the risks. A > trick to repeat a blissful moment many times. Let me say that "composing" is also a way to develop a good improvvisation. Personally, I find extremely exciting and inspiring to work on a good idea that came out from an improvisation. Sometimes, when it happens it's a great time, sometimes it's a pain in the ass... Playing songs using live looping technics ? It's possible of course. But, as Per pointed out, live looping give you a different approach in making music. All the tricks and tips mentioned about this topic work well, but if I can add my 2 cents, I'd say: try to get drastic changes with the less you can. Think in a minimalistic way, simple patterns you can easily switch between and freedom of arrangements. > But some folks are good at composing. How do they manage? I'd say they > are very good at simulating the inspired "first encounter experience" > in music. In order to succeed with that you will have to distance > yourself from the nice feeling of being part of the music as "music > happens to you" in order to analyse and take notes of exactly what > happens so you can repeat it and bring over a fragment of that emotion > to listeners. > > Oops... this turned out a bit theoretical - I fully support the > hands-on hints Kevin just posted as well. > Per, I enjoined reading it. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 03:25:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99E483BE80; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B90798A.3070800@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:24:58 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: the death of the loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6e8-S.A.zwC.NmHkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:25:01 +0000 (UTC) As an arranger and producer as well as an instrumentalist and composer some of the earliest 'tricks' I learned to make a simple idea much more interesting are uses of dynamics. We can use several dynamic strategies to introduce new material or even break up older material. 1) Linear Dynamics: Fade Ins and Fade Out These have already been mentioned but this is a great way to use either Feedback (if your looper supports this function) or to use a simple Volume pedal on a pre-existing loop as you bring in another idea (either on top of the old 'fading' loop as Kevin points out) or even just going to 2) Terrace Dynamics This is where a new musical element just starts out of silence causing a layering effect (here's a representation) __________________________________ 4th element ______________________________ 3rd element _________________________________________________ 2nd element ________________________________________________________ 1st element I always giggle when I consider this effect because I use it mercilessly in my own music. I think I have mystified Matthias Grob who invented the EDP and relies heavily on FEEDBACK as a technique because I rarely use FEEDBACK in my own music because I'm still discovering new ways of exploiting TERRACE DYNAMICS. Someday I'll probably get there, though. I just haven't run out of things to learn about Terrace Dynamics and Linear Dynamics that don't use Feedback. The use of UNDO (if your looper supports this function) is very powerful if you are using a device like the EDP or emulative software like MOBIUS, because you can just keep layering tracks and then by using UNDO, you can pull them back out again. Not only that, but if you have more than one looper running (or a pedal like the BOSS RC-50, Electrix Repeater, Looperlative LP-1 or programs like Ableton's LIVE or MOBIUS) then the MUTE button on your mixer (or software) can be of huge use to you. Just by judiciously using the MUTE button you can make static loops morph by creating DUB music. The original Reggae producers who introduced DUB music would merely MUTE entire sections of repeating rhythms. This cause what I call 'Negative Improvisation'. Dropping out one important loop can cause dissonance for the listener that is very pleasurable when it is reintroduced (un MUTE). Before my brother and I had the kind of equipment needed to create our own DUB music we would pretend that someone had a hand on the entire bands tracks and just abruptly stop playing as others played on, creating a faux DUB sensibility. The first things we added to our arsenal in the 70's were tape and analog delays so that we could throw delay onto the very last couple of notes before we 'muted' ourselves, causing the delays to cascade over the resulting tracks in a very psychedelic way. as a note about new tech: The new Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper (which will be out within 8 weeks from now) has a cool function because it automatically sets 1 of 20 different levels of UNDO for every 10% reduction of FEEDBACK. This allows for a combination of both TERRACE and LINEAR dynamics..........you can pull the volume out of a single loop by lowering your feedback expression pedal several different times and then by pressing UNDO successfully, you will return to your original level, level by level. ************************* Another cool use of TERRACE DYNAMICS: In Pop songs, a standard effect is to have the band use Terrace Dynamics by just dropping their volume by 10%-20% the instant the lead singer starts to sing and then raising their volume commensurately when instrumental passages happen. You can easily use Feedback in this way, especially if you think ahead. ************************ Another way to morph a loop is to use dramatic effects on the loop that , in essence, create Timbrel Terrace Dynamics. As an easy example, one can suddenly turn a fuzz pedal on and off on every single strike of a backbeat, snare drum. This creates a subtle volume increase and a dramatic timbrel shift. I use effects constantly to introduce new material in my looping shows, merely by re contextualizing the timbre of a part by the use of dramatic processing (and taking it away to create reverse TERRACE DYNAMICS) ************************ You can also create RHYTHMIC TERRACE DYNAMICS by suddenly REPLACING certain parts of a repeating ostinato pattern with either new sounds or, very dramatically with silence. Frequently, as a drummer playing three instruments simultaneously without looping (bass, snare and hi hat) I will suddenly drop a part or instrument out of the mix for 4 bars and then reintroduce it. This creates a sometimes dramatic TERRACE DYNAMIC. This is very easy to do with looping if you have REPLACE or SUBSTITUTE functions in your looper (EDP, MOBIUS, LOOPERLATIVE, LINE 6 M-9 and M-13 and others?) If you want some great examples of how to use MELODIC, RHYTHMIC, HARMONIC, TIMBREL and DYNAMIC dynamics over a static chord progression, go listen to Miles Davis' In a Silent Way or Bitches Brew or some of the music it spawned in jazz in the early 70's ---Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, et. al.) With sufficient intelligence and a number of aesthetic strategies one can stretch very, very simple material to last a long time in a way that is constantly evolving or morphing. I hope some of these ideas help. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 03:44:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C2763BE82; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B907E1F.8040603@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:44:31 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re death of a loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Scott wrote: about this previous paragraph: "Mangling -- take the loop and "mangle" it -- slow it down, speed it up, break it up, process and distort it -- there are many ways to "mangle" and, ultimately, kill a loop." "ok, HOW IN THE F*** do you do this w/ a boss rc20?" Well, this is the rub about all equipment. The cheaper Boss pedals (and the digitech Jamman as well) aren't really oriented towards internally mangling with a loop. It doesn't make them bad: it just isn't what they were designed for. This is why it's important to consider which looper one purchases (in hardware or software) and what kinds of techniques one wants to use before purchasing a product. Of course, we all evolve and I have bought loopers in the past and then realized that I needed to upgrade to more expensive and more sophisticated loopers. It is efficacious, however, when one does this to hang on to older less sophisticated loopers because re-sampling a loop is a very powerful way to morph a piece of music (freeing up the original looper to add new content once the content has been re-sampled and erased). A fantastically powerful piece of gear that I've fallen in love with is the KAOSS PAD 3 which allows one to not only resample an already existing loop but also to resample and combine several samples recorded into the machine into a new loop. The KAOSS PAD 3 allows for 4 different loops and it's powerful X-Y pad of applying effecst like delays, modulations, distortions, etc. in real time (all of whose X-Y movements are recorded as you record from your first loop to your second loop) This brings us to the distinction between loopers who are constantly playing their instruments as they play and loopers who not only play their instruments but take time to then 'produce' the material they are playing in real time by ceasing to play the instrument and then 'play' the effects of real time resampling, effects processing, dynamics etc. I find that frequently, I will play for the first 1/3 or so of a piece of music and then 'produce' using these manipulations through the middle 1/3 of the piece and then finish with 1/3 playing a secondary (or primary instrument) again. I just find that to keep from appearing visually boring, that it's good to incorporate instruments and controllers that are more interesting to watch then merely pushing knobs on a computer or piece of hardware gear or mixer. I'd play heavily crafter samples on a keyboard and my audiences didn't even react, whereas Gary Regina would use a WX-7 Wind Controller to trigger similar samples and people would fall all over him asking about his 'magic' saxaphone. LOL, I finally gave in and bought a WX-5 just for it to look more interesting as a sense of performance. 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Yours faithfully, Mrs. Edlin Albert Microsoft Promotion From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 06:09:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9B383BE81; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1267769374; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=tr5SHSnJNCKt+1nfQJDop6qKz0I=; b=jW36cWeproiJ6RQoAgEFdaPStS4hghW0gxhEh6j/kNeuGjLG4nGQMjiSuW5LnQ3F P+gIgyaFNXoAUhq9bcJoZrTHNwNYEVfUTFBmfkcNhzdWiTbAdL3z4nkX46W0vIf4; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=HfJGZlu4kbmRjK4VfswpWiebts3e7elbgErt2dy+qgs= c=1 sm=0 a=gx34od1h+TKmEOZvoLsQNQ==:17 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=_E-_LznW27Lk8rpzyiIA:9 a=VE3XAm0Rlv-T3P9REHaJDyesh_0A:4 a=I_IFO1wpK38MDPT70twA:9 a=3eCo7Un27FFKxHc39xkA:7 a=w9UTRGFug0m96asvxs42u_Gl8MwA:4 a=gx34od1h+TKmEOZvoLsQNQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01cabc2a$6ac1bb10$9bf23747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: New release Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 01:09:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CABC00.81B4EBA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <7Ns_NB.A.hgG.eAKkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:09:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CABC00.81B4EBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey fellow loopers, I just posted a new release on Bandcamp from my self and Jim Goodin aka = the Goodin Duke Project called "Unforseen Consequenses". Chock full of looping madness this was the result of an email request = from Jim to test out a bit of gear or some such. We cranked up Ninjam = and played this in one pass non stop. Kind of experimental glitchadelic = ambient noise I guess, not sure but here it is: http://goodindukeproject.bandcamp.com/album/unforseen-consequences peace out, Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CABC00.81B4EBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey fellow loopers,
 
I just posted a new release on Bandcamp = from my=20 self and Jim Goodin aka the Goodin Duke Project called "Unforseen=20 Consequenses".
Chock full of looping madness this was = the result=20 of an email request from Jim to test out a bit of gear or some such. We = cranked=20 up Ninjam and played this in one pass non stop. Kind of experimental=20 glitchadelic ambient noise I guess, not sure but here it = is:
 
http://goodindukeproject.bandcamp.com/album/unforseen-consequences=
 
 
peace = out,
 
Jeff
 
http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CABC00.81B4EBA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 07:37:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD8083BE81; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:37:00 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100305073700.48400@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18iUcYEK2oiiQMePxHBRXwUkF8/0sCMAljMTtBHMk KKIhEClWiyNqv3MxCskeYhMnz78n35nLepRQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: r4Oietw6IydmE4x+j2ZrwANSa2FkZlWH X-FuHaFi: 0.62 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I highly enjoy this thread. My favorite suggestions: >go back to the original loop Yeah, I save the initial "fresh" stage of a loop to come back later, cooling things down & re-focusing. > REPLACING rather that overdyúbing.. I love instant replace for adding chunks. Creates a crisper sound rather than the layer-thick overdub. >Multiply->Record. That way, you can trim down e,g, a long chord progression to just the ending Discovered that accidentally when hitting multiply at the wrong time. Can come up with suprising effects. >having pressed NextLoop (or a direct call like "Loop 4") to add the command Multiply before the switch happens Per, isn't this the same on Mobius as NextLoop with LoopCopy=Loop (vs. LoopCopy=Time)? best regards Buzap -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 07:40:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E70833BE80; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:40:54 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20100305074054.48400@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Really cool iphone looping! To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Q1Ah5necQ/NN8cS6ffkqeV8ebMesVFefhk+w4RX 91bShsblTn/HtRqU+MnNHHP5U4crA4KVr3aw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: tIyjc90mMmA6XcJ3kGBne0k5MjQ1N134 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi loopers who needs a X pound setup if an iphone can do this? http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2010/03/04/possibly-the-coolest-thing-ive-seen-the-iphone-do-video/ Really cool... and really nice vocal performance. Supposedly with Everyday Looper. Buzap -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. 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On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Matt Stevens <= mattstevensguitar@btint= ernet.com> wrote:
Oh no - I have telecom issues!!!

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On 5 Mar 2010, at 00:00, peter.leinhos@farmersinsuranc= e.com wrote:





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--0014852d24c6205f170481092f9a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 08:50:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22E303BE82; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=h0dhVU0GHS/Azm0OTNht5bRp72r5WYXPkUj/wfjFE/I=; b=i/UPYo+OHIkGAuywoVkC1eeAndjmgVaoZKRXnlDQpLFt5H03QZieRAVcOT7juUb09e qJ5bb5ICGsjBUXU9CfjegNkf23oW2LKpDk1/VWUBG6R/i6snZF0+1tv3ezaBE1s1z3k1 Z95IEA0PbU8mbXwuw1a8Sc6RfS9ckdjJpK+FQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=pduQhtcIe2gCt2XMOhSSOuKR9rgc/YuV2CVZHLuAdh2pG53koWfBu4hjJNTaWrZe5k /Ppoezj+sJB0Qn/mJhq4YMdPDo8Z+PR/MbtpoE7F6+8jZEyMkNicGV7cQehitO6KKgaD saI/O74RlYGy0ufXA+g47JRoMny7NDv01wyig= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4B907E1F.8040603@cruzio.com> References: <4B907E1F.8040603@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:49:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 54cc5938fb75d8b9 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003050049r1ee03f42x23284900b7b43367@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: re death of a loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00148531a84612dbe1048109cd93 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:50:04 +0000 (UTC) --00148531a84612dbe1048109cd93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 about his 'magic' saxaphone. LOL, I finally gave in and bought a WX-5 just for it to look more interesting as a sense of performance. > > Rick Walker > > Well then Rick.. I think you NEED this page.. http://www.egraphicworld.com/WX5.htm I searched for dayglo green, but no go.. maybe the gold one would match? Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00148531a84612dbe1048109cd93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0about his 'magic' saxaphone. =A0 =A0LOL, =A0I finally gave in an= d bought a WX-5 just for it to look more interesting as a sense of performa= nce.

Rick Walker

Well then Rick.. I think you NEED this page..
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http://www.egraphicwor= ld.com/WX5.htm

=A0I searched for dayglo green, but no go.. maybe= the gold one would match?

Mark




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--00148531a84612dbe1048109cd93-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 10:14:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F41793BE81; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9j+Wp4XqJavoHyuZrAlWqcuUG45dMqUQqx0fsNgyyF4=; b=OCxl2qmsiWsz3fFalHYwQ+HjrYp8tgewgLTrG6S1i1xvmXUhGSdrpc8hJxXRWEyaG5 SEIoD5UElV93F7+G9Vx5+k54TfRntO2acE6/LJEuFz/2PQH7tautdKuzuOrIRFD8xcS4 XqWzvzj4ROK5xyeF1alDHyKUBKSRtSiExesIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HQaGFGGX2QMcsk07YXrBYPWpPZbUuVCLMXcLBmjd/qzLYmqT6MZh/X54M9uUnUSzWM iIyiBIXGzWHA2UhdObOx11xOiN/LW9PxFXXkeWrfTb5uPazPCTiKqQrGD8V3QxmfaxF4 7TKD3Wf76B/fwCP3qljvRw42Ne6NGvryOdkNA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003050005p363560c2mfbeb568a53f253b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f1003050005p363560c2mfbeb568a53f253b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:14:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fa702d98e8b04810afa97 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:14:27 +0000 (UTC) --0016367fa702d98e8b04810afa97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 how much time do I have to destroy/delete the message!!!!!!!!!!!? :-D 2010/3/5 mark francombe > OH NO!! I NEED Farm Insurance NOW!!! > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Matt Stevens < > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Oh no - I have telecom issues!!! >> >> damn >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> On 5 Mar 2010, at 00:00, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I will be out of the office starting 03/04/2010 and will not return >> until >> 03/08/2010. >> >> For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg >> Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. >> >> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >> documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >> and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >> addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended >> addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, >> disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of >> this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may >> result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender >> advising of the error in transmission and immediately >> delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank >> you.***** >> >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0016367fa702d98e8b04810afa97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how much time do I have to destroy/delete the message!!!!!!!!!!!?

:-= D

2010/3/5 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com= >
OH NO!! I NEED Fa= rm Insurance NOW!!!





On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensg= uitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Oh no - I have telecom issues!!!

damn

On 5 Mar 2010, at 00:00, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wro= te:





I will be out of the office starting<= span>=A0 03/04/2010 and will not return until
03/08/2010.
<= br>
For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Con= ferencing contact Greg
Bouffard @ 323 932 = 3793.

***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any
documents accompanying this transmission may contain priv= ileged
and/or confidential information and= is intended solely for the
addressee(s) named above. If you are not the in= tended
addressee/recipient, you are hereby= notified that any use of,
disclosure, cop= ying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of
this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly pro= hibited and may
result in legal action aga= inst you. Please reply to the sender
advis= ing of the error in transmission and immediately
delete/destroy the message and any accompanying= documents. Thank
you.***** =A0








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Petri Lahti= nen
http://www.petrilahtinen.co= m
http://petrilahtine= n.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--0016367fa702d98e8b04810afa97-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 10:22:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83DAC3BE85; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=9CO9IUZ6Zoc0taxrCaOnnlyoTxx25NsoJDiRm8Kp0xM=; b=J4wxqA0fUsen7+HBuU2dtWLNjQs9TTCYUDC3gRBUjdimQMh6o7SSihDsWxEoriga5S gJfS+2qqRz1UJACNczDDvu2MoaqEEKftSuJarqmu6q+aRWoDVTDbBQqpHuMySHlKl2cN fTvvhNkWHQma1SeeuoQBW2eXjxJ3ZP3AcCrJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=UYxgYFbu32xCOd68UNe7uLY5QsogchdIPrA1pfeIRNamOJ0xZHI6wlLgYqYCD/LFYm hwBB0vLZtLQ9GEWWuJce/dAeSyl2Mf5iJWCKdivUCoboIyZGq6cxB+uAX1Tdl/1ZFKb0 XrUUc3KKtSplZeOUz5V3kyByed0FBpo5L5Ns8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f1003050005p363560c2mfbeb568a53f253b6@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:15 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dc60ee72588a6b7c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003050222k7316b702m5794c7be994eb2ab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151744790e0fc39704810b1889 Resent-Message-ID: <8vwdpB.A.9qB.utNkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:22:38 +0000 (UTC) --00151744790e0fc39704810b1889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Take as long as you like! theres no rush! On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > how much time do I have to destroy/delete the message!!!!!!!!!!!? > > :-D > > 2010/3/5 mark francombe > > OH NO!! I NEED Farm Insurance NOW!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Matt Stevens < >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>> Oh no - I have telecom issues!!! >>> >>> damn >>> >>> Matt Stevens >>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5 Mar 2010, at 00:00, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I will be out of the office starting 03/04/2010 and will not return >>> until >>> 03/08/2010. >>> >>> For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg >>> Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. >>> >>> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >>> documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >>> and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >>> addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended >>> addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, >>> disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of >>> this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may >>> result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender >>> advising of the error in transmission and immediately >>> delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank >>> you.***** >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00151744790e0fc39704810b1889 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Take as long as you like! theres no rush!

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
how much time do = I have to destroy/delete the message!!!!!!!!!!!?

:-D

2010/3/5 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>

OH NO!! I NEED Fa= rm Insurance NOW!!!





On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensg= uitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Oh no - I have telecom issues!!!

damn

On 5 Mar 2010, at 00:00, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wro= te:





I will be out of the office starting<= span>=A0 03/04/2010 and will not return until
03/08/2010.
<= br>
For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Con= ferencing contact Greg
Bouffard @ 323 932 = 3793.

***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any
documents accompanying this transmission may contain priv= ileged
and/or confidential information and= is intended solely for the
addressee(s) named above. If you are not the in= tended
addressee/recipient, you are hereby= notified that any use of,
disclosure, cop= ying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of
this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly pro= hibited and may
result in legal action aga= inst you. Please reply to the sender
advis= ing of the error in transmission and immediately
delete/destroy the message and any accompanying= documents. Thank
you.***** =A0








-- Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://w= ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.= bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-



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http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--00151744790e0fc39704810b1889-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 12:23:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79B683BE82; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=OsfqU3cRhlJoEIw0U4pYnS7PmbjkBm6igELXfWrn/LYIfOrhPXF+rrHc5C582RRMQubHdV3BfwMNbyz01y44N6cPd2kOZ3a3usoQleY/u/PE5FBoeICjgbPNjMVF5wzf; Message-ID: <20100305062321.o1t2h0tu0wc4soog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:23:21 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> <20100305073700.48400@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20100305073700.48400@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Buzap Buzap : > Hi folks > > I highly enjoy this thread. My favorite suggestions: > >> go back to the original loop > Yeah, I save the initial "fresh" stage of a loop to come back later, =20 > cooling things down & re-focusing. > >> REPLACING rather that overdy=FAbing.. > I love instant replace for adding chunks. Creates a crisper sound =20 > rather than the layer-thick overdub. > The replace idea is one that I haven't explored. This thread has =20 inspired me to work with replace (and mute) functions. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 13:53:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1253A3BE7E; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AKoUtI8kI5LSH8iUCqzu3B+BCqReEVRUJCoZPbu46gY=; b=NMSmvX3NORuTPO/5r05RX02TUBJpHoe6kFFVf5OD66fM7uHunjxeaUFbSwiRhif6b7 LwMnWElFzhgnylBB7xX/i5kvnFRs4fbFEMfyoa4/3+YTegOyx6ST7IZwYnDCH9OGho6w 2sM8rZjK0cduWxp7Dzqpvr6jwJeqE8+Wufvus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A2f3GaABTBEbLiY0Mydo7Dok2lyYIEdpHT+6aLDcj0aWxfcGu0iC89OLNvrUOpck6X 4MpE2S/ioRE5RTGlv4/7eLnxZHeKnlQFXXcWQFkUGwsgglWTq9jyO/pmL4feBq4lnXX7 utqWNt178X++ligz0ZtMMRaFX7cbv9yc4JMqY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003050222k7316b702m5794c7be994eb2ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f1003050005p363560c2mfbeb568a53f253b6@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003050222k7316b702m5794c7be994eb2ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:53:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7eb68bc78fc04810e0bd3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:53:56 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7eb68bc78fc04810e0bd3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this guy is around here, doing this, since the nineties. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d7eb68bc78fc04810e0bd3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this guy is around here, doing this, since the nineties.

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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que e= stava il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda = de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sti= es!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? &q= uot;


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d7eb68bc78fc04810e0bd3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 14:06:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 192633BE86; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dxbIAX96cRlasMNSd13qBXn3Ms6z3OCopD2YHbhr+KY=; b=DiuNLMmfXNjXf9Db02rAWqlYMTXiKEQrU+QzWhO0snQm/3Ak47dycBpWH6VEHheQCa nwd8MvvgngYRZ2CxNj0EBhPeBNQqsoWmKpvNL/kx+fQdmJOjGcquke5t5Wn8vxZY1UTn rR+VdVjvzDscgeQ/EP+6R22GWS0/xuHSQaabc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=umjvvVQy9XYVJgNPRSTyKHRwZTw+UUpNU61SIr7ElkWDS+uxWitZ6c+SYPUkduAU+L yi44cGmqKyIojxFmPktlYB8e/AzIsfKT5sgi0Msra4JWu8NW9UMAjXGbU7bKQ3bjw9qk rC/R3HHGWWvQP3xAA8+NMx/D7/922vT4dPMBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000c01cabc2a$6ac1bb10$9bf23747@tbl01fcf9be917> References: <000c01cabc2a$6ac1bb10$9bf23747@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:06:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New release From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99ccb2727e204810e37b8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:06:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99ccb2727e204810e37b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cool. saving i t for the weekend coffee+couch+headphoones experience! 2010/3/5 Jeff Duke > Hey fellow loopers, > > I just posted a new release on Bandcamp from my self and Jim Goodin aka t= he > Goodin Duke Project called "Unforseen Consequenses". > Chock full of looping madness this was the result of an email request fro= m > Jim to test out a bit of gear or some such. We cranked up Ninjam and play= ed > this in one pass non stop. Kind of experimental glitchadelic ambient nois= e I > guess, not sure but here it is: > > http://goodindukeproject.bandcamp.com/album/unforseen-consequences > > > peace out, > > Jeff > > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d99ccb2727e204810e37b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cool. saving i t for the weekend coffee+couch+headphoones experience!
2010/3/5 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
Hey fellow loopers,
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I just posted a new release on Bandcam= p from my=20 self and Jim Goodin aka the Goodin Duke Project called "Unforseen=20 Consequenses".
Chock full of looping madness this was= the result=20 of an email request from Jim to test out a bit of gear or some such. We cra= nked=20 up Ninjam and played this in one pass non stop. Kind of experimental=20 glitchadelic ambient noise=A0I guess, not sure but here it is:
=A0
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peace out,



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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.lum= inada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina= i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podi= en posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d99ccb2727e204810e37b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 14:32:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8854F3BE82; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B9115FB.3030508@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:32:27 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #674 for March 4, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:32:37 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100304.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #674 March 4, 2010. RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Mark Mahoney and Michael Peck. The Featured CD at Midnight will be The Gallery of Subtle Smiles on Waiting World Records. Mahoney and Peck: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Jazzcomputer.org Stress Out of the City (none) Undo Apprehender 9.9.99 (none) Robert Rich charukesi ylang (Soundscape Productions) Ricochet Gathering Keep Ending Keep On (Ricochet Dream) Tange CHON Part 1 * CHON (Earth Mantra) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Mahoney and Peck Flight from the The Gallery of Subtle Smiles Nexxus Swan (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck Cosmic Visitation The Gallery of Subtle Smiles (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck Initiate Auto The Gallery of Subtle Smiles Sequence (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck Follow the Swarm The Gallery of Subtle Smiles (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck Dawn's Lingering The Gallery of Subtle Smiles Ghost (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck Tin Cans and Tiny The Gallery of Subtle Smiles Cables (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck Vortex of Dim The Gallery of Subtle Smiles Light (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck The Great Silencer The Gallery of Subtle Smiles (Waiting World) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Mark Mahoney and Michael Peck. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Beyond the Vaulting Skies by Mark Mahoney on Waiting World Records. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen to WDIY at http://is.gd/37vNQ on-line. http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 14:40:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B00413BE7F; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Ff4U7Cb+JIF4afY6m2kaFRQBC8ZKu5ILX6g/lrT9fQs=; b=tSed0/uuB2MpdfUmI4LSmJb0gwzB0jXHY73Zk9GKQET/6FcuA5CRQ29bac14SfY2Wq +R7goegCBZJClQ9Q2ehWJHvTCjdpT79jg3obLel13PCe00oNGw1d/ghlTBcEvvYFHdmy F+Odrqvz9z7ZgXKPagZi9XFVkcJLJVXGsWg+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=jTVksIaDVjyz68CyKK2xoHug7TGoKw0SqsBMSjAIyeP11s5WrfbxuNGNHj8wQtotFl AtjmucjRyZWN+MJH+WC+NMyzO80NDirvDRiOmE5FzQKQkRrwNDJY0m31y+GMXBKaUzCY isuOSADOZcFwL7fVnrSX2P8nRxdMBQqUs7C9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f1003050005p363560c2mfbeb568a53f253b6@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003050222k7316b702m5794c7be994eb2ab@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:39:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 274f281689d5cc10 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003050639v41d4ffa1kfe17c86cd4fe2fe5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0f7cc9bb7104810eb1e0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:40:21 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c0f7cc9bb7104810eb1e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know Raul.. Its pretty funny.. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > this guy is around here, doing this, since the nineties. > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.lumin= ada, > exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta= que > ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li u= na > agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " > > > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c0f7cc9bb7104810eb1e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know Raul.. Its pretty funny..

On Fri, = Mar 5, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
this guy is around here, doing this, since the nineties.


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava a= quella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga= , que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em = diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que= pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "


Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collecti= ve: http://www.c= t-collective.com




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http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c0f7cc9bb7104810eb1e0-- From mrkoffimensa001@virgilio.it Fri Mar 5 14:50:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2295 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:50:48 UTC Received: from smtp1web.tin.it (smtp1web.tin.it [212.216.176.195]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165883BE46; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pswm6.cp.tin.it (192.168.70.26) by smtp1web.tin.it (8.5.113) id 4B614BE402E8909C; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:12:25 +0100 Message-ID: <1272eab8699.mrkoffimensa001@virgilio.it> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:12:25 +0100 (CET) From: Mr Koffi Mensa Reply-To: Mrkoffimensa@contractor.net Subject: Att:Sir/Madan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 66.230.230.230 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Att:Sir/Madan I am diagnosed with Cancer being hospitalize. I need your help to claim my fund Usm$15 in security company, i have set aside %25 for you, i will introduce myself well as you reply back to help me,Mr.Koffi Mensa. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 5 21:08:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 970443BE80; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX184Xf9IpNE4df2rAK8IWJADbOZ8FS8y87XfFGVsbB d6U1YLo0MCJdy7 Message-ID: <4B9172CF.1060905@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:08:31 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OFF TOPIC: World Water Day Kerala India Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070801050700040708000504" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.57999999999999996,0.55000000000000004 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:08:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070801050700040708000504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Helllo Loopers, A concert is being organised in Kerala India in honor of water. It will be held on World Water Day, March 22nd. And the organizers are looking for sponsors. I am very new to this type of thing... so I am just shooting out in the dark and hoping for good luck... if anyone knows anyone who maybe possibly might be willing to fund a concert in honor of water, please let me know. Here is the info: Hydro Rhythm -- The Musical Concert? - Rock for a Cause? ?22nd March 2010 ?World Water Day? International World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a means of focusing attention on the importance of freshwater. An international day to celebrate freshwater was recommended at the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED). UN -- Water has chosen Communicating Water Quality Challenges and Opportunities as theme for World Water Day 2010. The overall goal of the World Water Day on 22 March 2010 campaign is to raise the profile of water quality at the political level so that water quality considerations are made alongside those of water quantity. As a part of observing this day, we are organizing a musical concert to enlighten the common public on water quality and the importance of saving water. A must experience concert for all who have a heart towards social responsibility. THE CONCERT IS IN NEED OF FUNDING: Please contact me if you are interested in supporting this concert in honor of /WATER... / /http://www.worldwaterday2010.info/ http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html / Thank you and kind regards, Nadia Salom -- Nadia Salom http://www.nirmala07.net http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 --------------070801050700040708000504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Helllo Loopers,

A concert is being organised in Kerala India in honor of water. It will be held on World Water Day, March 22nd. And the organizers are looking for sponsors. I am very new to this type of thing... so I am just shooting out in the dark and hoping for good luck... if anyone knows anyone who maybe possibly might be willing to fund a concert in honor of water, please let me know.

Here is the info:

Hydro Rhythm – The Musical Concert
 - Rock for a Cause


22nd March 2010 
World Water Day


International World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a means of focusing attention on the importance of freshwater.  An international day to celebrate freshwater was recommended at the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED).  UN – Water has chosen Communicating Water Quality Challenges and Opportunities as theme for World Water Day 2010.

The overall goal of the World Water Day on 22 March 2010 campaign is to raise the profile of water quality at the political level so that water quality considerations are made alongside those of water quantity. As a part of observing this day, we are organizing a musical concert to enlighten the common public on water quality and the importance of saving water. A must experience concert for all who have a heart towards social responsibility.

THE CONCERT IS IN NEED OF FUNDING: Please contact me if you are interested in supporting this concert in honor of WATER...

http://www.worldwaterday2010.info/
http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html

Thank you and kind regards,
Nadia Salom


-- 
Nadia Salom
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=0A=0A=0A=0A   --0-792417670-1267827648=:47365-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 00:08:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2623A3BE84; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tEBYwPQYrP8YILcrEDOohfXIpYD3dMYlGJ2VGSnkyw4=; b=HX6ykSZXAEGP//BLTq5L8YOG+Zgp0m5mTRlr7VL7UFJg9e/KtI8noPELJgqATws4uV ly+AaudJ8VKJCpV+HO5Ug4dixJ7/MIRpVfS2oz5t/kYyXf9WPb92tvHxriKRlpglmpPB KY3WJOg/XkngVmOzqGQlYMeuCplEsQpS/Y4KQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mhlZTZp/G66NxzSDEGGaz0QVIHCKiIimVL/X6TbaYwpxqs+w5aqAKZePGFBdQyija3 FS+N+Aekg1O89ZbZP1s9t6PrusmsQ/q/65kXD/qviBaSxgEy+14HEEIsTWKo1lmtkWCP R2w0StyL2vdSbJUuK+UlmaSCCWBRTIQOyLIYQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> References: <20100304072539.46560@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:08:22 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Is Keytar cool (again) or not? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1jT4YD.A.dWB.8zZkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Well, what a keytar was originally about was giving up some of the functionality of a keyboard in exchange for being able to dance on stage, jump in the air and spin around like band members were expected to do in the 80s. Right? What else was a keytar good for? If that's important again, then yes, a keytar may be the way to go. Non-snarkily, Yes, I think it's still seen as a novelty instrument. 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Best regards, Mr.Nana Boateng ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 07:59:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEAF63BE80; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+Ii9ZH47qUt7FVy/ObaYKgy3P+7G0i6OFqQgf4gNR34=; b=JQTEoUTaVLQdkBe2o7n4CU2tiENKkcszl1i/p5pw77zZ28mh8hyirjv3dYONXPUhY0 giP0FQRccOE6nMW27tBoArzWxxPLAa/nccU9K+BuQ8ArX/RdmdJ6K+BNwBgprpopZvxv iaMcDcjPHV2eghNlgWzuUVcfIstJzl2m30ESU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F5Re9Mam13xYYZ4D4j+5dHpkIqu50Be11Z/MbBuiATMkDUQqJfUY+xxUMleL+x77Ec 7i0PKmQld8PddRbG/Mbk7SIHWhuuELy0u5+Y3jLLDl362lLUqtBzUPm4vzetPjrfcdd2 r6VBTdoJ8ohOkGHYozPpp5e00H4Wls07Oz9Bk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <30A71950-55E7-439C-AEFD-2A2C37E53EEC@gmail.com> References: <004001cabb68$d442c920$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <30A71950-55E7-439C-AEFD-2A2C37E53EEC@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:59:02 -0500 Message-ID: <91d8478b1003052359y255a6a45t2ab5181358513b9c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Owen Pallett Heartland From: Jean-Paul De Roover To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <0syvXB.A.oKH.ItgkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:59:04 +0000 (UTC) He used to be called "Final Fantasy", and if you can find it there's a podcast from CBC where he and Cadence Weapon (Canadian 8bit hip hop artist) collaborate on each other's songs for an hour. Pretty neat stuff. I haven't seen him live yet, but I do live in a more remote part of Canada, which is often overlooked when artists are suddenly launched into indie-stardom. Proud Canadian though! On 3/4/10, Myke Atkinson wrote: > To be honest, I wasn't a huge fan of his music until I saw him live (not > that I didn't like it - it was just kind of in the take it or leave it > pile). Last year he played in Calgary as part of the Sled Island festival at > this gorgeous church downtown and I was blown away by his live performance. > Besides being devilishly charismatic, the mini-orchestra of sounds he > creates with his live looping setup is incredible. Truly an amazing > performer. > > Your post made me look up some videos of him, and this one, while pretty > horrible audio quality, showcases some of the ingenious and extremely > musical ways he uses his looping setup live: > http://vimeo.com/7509410 > > -Myke > > > On 2010-03-04, at 12:03 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> a friend gave me the "Heartland" CD of Owen Pallett. Incredible music, >> very >> idiosyncratic and hard to categorize, but melodic and very enjoyable. I >> hear >> that he does livelooping - has anyone seen him live? >> -Michael >> > > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the stop animation music video for "Fix"! www.jeanpaulderoover.com/fix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 09:26:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 819B53BE80; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B921FAA.9060707@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:26:02 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Kathleen Monahan , Musik International , Peter Koniuto , Paul Bryan , Canyon Records , Randall Frazier Massive Music America , Eric Corbin , Fossil Records , Magna Carta Records , "Simon Apple [Jeff]" , Progrock Records , "UNICORN DIGITAL Inc." , Matti Kervinen , Chip Schutzman , "Javier Diaz (Cuneiform)" , Brett Kull , Bram , Jon Freeman , Glass Onion PR , Loopers Delight Mailing List , Daniel Pipitone , Jeff Kowal , Projekt Records Publicity , Vic Rek Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5wEqoD.A._p.6-hkLB@arsenic> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:26:18 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 6 at 6 am EST (GMT-5). 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Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 10:44:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3039F3BE7E; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CABD19.4B5D7016" Subject: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 05:37:58 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? thread-index: Acq9GRbAMWR5KNxjRcOB/6BJX8NcYA== From: "Ace Ovil" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:44:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CABD19.4B5D7016 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So....as the title asks... has anyone? Looks kind of interesting as a rhythmic tool to add into loops. Ace ------_=_NextPart_001_01CABD19.4B5D7016 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Looks kind of interesting as a rhythmic tool to add = into loops.

Ace

------_=_NextPart_001_01CABD19.4B5D7016-- From basiaonline01@gmail.com Sat Mar 6 10:47:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 39449 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:47:48 UTC Received: from mail1.hcmute.edu.vn (mail1.hcmute.edu.vn [203.113.147.179]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7283C3BE46; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([116.206.180.208]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail1.hcmute.edu.vn (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o2628wmL032013; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:09:03 +0700 Message-Id: <201003060209.o2628wmL032013@mail1.hcmute.edu.vn> Reply-To: From: "Ms. Mitchell Brooks" Subject: Email Notification Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:46:55 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on mail1.hcmute.edu.vn X-Virus-Status: Clean To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is to announce the British Asia 2010 Online Promo. Your email address appears to have won £2,500,000.00 GBP (Two Million Five Hundred Thousand British Pound Sterling’s) in our on going Promo. To claim your prize and for further enquiries, please contact your claim agent with the Information stated below. Name: Eric Howard Email: baonline@supanet.com Tel: +60129167137 Congratulations!!! Ms. Mitchell Brooks British Asia Online Coordinator. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 12:54:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E695D3BE84; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iglKN/NRPKZWmNcKVgnTKDq3bEQNlOplUNWTwf5M+j4=; b=uQCen+fr3rqCfz5UuXqZhTwsin/fTaq91AKMDf8Iia0+eLWKt4axlkFERp0G7LkKAe LhgQLyueeBtZZanpjwSf+Hzlufz9iTE9tkvtxxNdStr0yBHDqd/bTS/AIwGXyUNsAF0u G41Lsu9WocsIpWjMapWyVDmVl3bCw5hTuEAAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=qOGxOPpiXf4+C9o1wQ9r7guVIbwrsGhUg34jHZsCZKsLuHjlYwux7UFyC4ARYgXgJ7 rwrBfnw305Gt9litEiTUEk1bfKJkSdTwiQe5uAdtnIkik+V3UBLNQo9uKNwTlxgDeDVP RacTFVk5Qsb6sMYz0acCCcbZgxFudsYwkR1rE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:54:51 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7d2ec7513810481215601 Resent-Message-ID: <02oEvB.A.nOE.cClkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:54:52 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7d2ec7513810481215601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i've just bought one. hasn't arrived yet, but i'll let you know what i thin= k once i've played around with it a bit. i know michael peters uses one.... sim On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Ace Ovil wrote: > So=85.as the title asks=85 has anyone? > > Looks kind of interesting as a rhythmic tool to add into loops. > > Ace > --001485f7d2ec7513810481215601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i've just bought one. hasn't arrived yet, but i'll let you know= what i think once i've played around with it a bit. i know michael pet= ers uses one....

sim

On Sat, Mar 6= , 2010 at 10:37 AM, Ace Ovil <aovil@wfubmc.edu> wrote:

So=85.as the title asks=85 has anyone?

Looks kind of interesting as a rhythmic tool to add = into loops.

Ace


--001485f7d2ec7513810481215601-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 12:55:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CA343BE81; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:52:33 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:55:55 +0000 (UTC) At 5:37 AM -0500 3/6/10, Ace Ovil wrote: >So=8A.as the title asks=8A has anyone? >Looks kind of interesting as a rhythmic tool to add into loops. Ace, Check the archives. It's actually come up as a=20 topic a couple of times here. Short answer:=20 yeah, it's pretty cool to add rhythmic content=20 (although "to really muck things up requires a=20 computer" ;). I've got one, and I know that Rick Walker does=20 too, amongst others. I've even posted a couple=20 of tricks in the past to get more mileage out of=20 it. Anything in particular you want to know,=20 though? --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the=20 possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 16:14:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D6EE3BE80; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1267892096; bh=Y7q7PwFsDQXyuNHKweDwfg+UNvc3Ced7iIxF+AnGlro=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5j5eBtLtGgX3RF1lfhRsUUihqCj2nEF8UeTXtjFcos5tUzUmIWN773ibm/J1l2A2cznNp1KRKXaXyBkZ2Etl83W1ZmVXXJ2vIVlHo5a0gvh3ULxdg6wIT6FETJ3xujz7O0seEORCv5qwQVl8QYar0MdzW9DTb3mFGAwfwmDapQA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NuAYKz2tDSNhKXEOO/DZPCwvHeF5/CELrg42xQzhbSWymAFyLglJmgAJpeT+b57/VuvBlHmS3/VGk+9Y4I+1YvkVHYFnNH/FnbgWBhleCFRP1QbSDbW939VQqhrL3tpo08JJ4Cc11nOqSTe0lVSsSpg8Wvg542Rp33adfo0n2qw=; Message-ID: <194455.6386.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: u6D_K2MVM1ljXT8jTH8IG33FQa2W3ozIpV2DbOcnawO84Xb 7IiQADOZdDAvQNsZ4gHG_DEzzJwd.cT5xqZUcfbDVGLeADibyYCT5PZTNfQJ WzCfN0Z7q9P0WfsQxlOe0EcHfuW6HBcW9QAB16FI6arDtZcQf_YJQMrInw83 dW6rvvrZiP6gwoiGP1ZoWO9LeXKXrj_s667WL6TNZrTqRXClz5yIbkcdXDQR Fxnf1zDB8SzKrqva8iAUmDPXD4GAg_Ho7K0EDZlgf00QaUjS9QLafDT34KE_ dM7.EmqMbfuhrfFcJlvjSk33ntgCfQ7pbyjufjCnNK.6OISX6KxgOzws- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:14:56 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: boss slicer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-765127008-1267892096=:6386" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:14:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-765127008-1267892096=:6386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable actually i also just bought a boss slicer and am awaiting it, and i also ju= st bought a digitech timebender, and am anxiously awaiting it (sort of bought = them for my bday-good day for me!!!) =A0 i will say that in the last month i've had the roland ef303-which has a sli= cer effect in it-i really like the effect, and that's why i wanted to try t= he slicer. the ef303 is HUGE on my board, and i'm running out of real estat= e . i'm also wishing when i had the electricians in my house 3 yrs ago that= i would have put some more outlets in my studio-i'm full up there also....= but the effects of the ef303 are interesting-it's built like a tank, althou= gh a few are repeats of what i have, but the filter and isolator sounds goo= d too on it. but the main thing i've found is doing short loops w/ my guyat= one md3 (mangling them) and then turning on the slicer-it's kind of cool. m= akes some nice sounds...guess that's why i wanted to try the boss slicer & = it's smaller footprint (never thought i'd come to the day where pedal size = becomes an issue...)... =A0 i should also say that even w/ the ef303 and my new korg kaoss 2 pad-both u= sing rca in/outs-i've not noticed any signal loss, much different than the = mini kaoss pad...that's sort of why i got a KP2 also-liked the sounds of th= e mini kaoss pad-but wanted to see if it had better sound-and it does-there= are some fun sound mangling options in it as well.... s---=0A=0A=0A --0-765127008-1267892096=:6386 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
actually i also just bought a boss slice= r and am awaiting it, and i also just
bought a digitech timebender, and am anxiously awaiting it (sort of bo= ught them for my bday-good day for me!!!)
 
i will say that in the last month i've had the roland ef303-which has = a slicer effect in it-i really like the effect, and that's why i wanted to = try the slicer. the ef303 is HUGE on my board, and i'm running out of real = estate . i'm also wishing when i had the electricians in my house 3 yrs ago= that i would have put some more outlets in my studio-i'm full up there als= o....but the effects of the ef303 are interesting-it's built like a tank, a= lthough a few are repeats of what i have, but the filter and isolator sound= s good too on it. but the main thing i've found is doing short loops w/ my = guyatone md3 (mangling them) and then turning on the slicer-it's kind of co= ol. makes some nice sounds...guess that's why i wanted to try the boss slic= er & it's smaller footprint (never thought i'd come to the day where pe= dal size becomes an issue...)...
 
i should also say that even w/ the ef303 and my new korg kaoss 2 pad-b= oth using rca in/outs-i've not noticed any signal loss, much different than= the mini kaoss pad...that's sort of why i got a KP2 also-liked the sounds = of the mini kaoss pad-but wanted to see if it had better sound-and it does-= there are some fun sound mangling options in it as well....
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=0A=0A --0-765127008-1267892096=:6386-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 16:27:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 827953BE82; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:27:29 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20100305062321.o1t2h0tu0wc4soog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Message-ID: <20100306162729.60920@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> <20100305073700.48400@gmx.net> <20100305062321.o1t2h0tu0wc4soog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+StmtYxF2S3tBVxmBTLX5YW7JGZOWjTfsVwacU7j 6Ycuq5bc9eAKn5D5Cqqz3Y+2qVXkhasKH7AQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: JsbYDIRwa2AofM0tzHUyH9w6OWhhasdo X-FuHaFi: 0.66000000000000003 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kevin > The replace idea is one that I haven't explored. This thread has > inspired me to work with replace (and mute) functions. Yeah, try it with "instant" setting (is it same as SUS on EDP? don't know the jargon so well...). With an "instant pedal" you can place rhythmic accents into an existing loop etc. have fun! :) Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 16:53:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBB443BE82; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1xBRswyeXM8mKls4SCZmplcVgYA+SWH+i/z1dsyJ3+M=; b=oTDqk7k9HgEeCc40UQovlpeENzcLdDDe04/rlOX6xYRd0ar+C8sXvNGkwPQxqPoeOM aGat1qrn+28pnVk7+njOfCieYoMEB5QwkIjRbxoZTNxIGh9BIafL4C8/D0sRCRJrBCnR L9AyT0WuLPoL8XRak7xAIiMMlT4X7UoaEB1xE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=npwxD+gMasToZM1JtFaqYb+twhdH7CoMtULuOKDGgcbYAYsdlXZO4aF/jIYEqSdes+ dLNGsqMzxnPuvUFixHDJYXn006Ip145o5VmEvdGbbEHxN0Qo5MuuZNattL5rgQg4qsLz 4vZ/RLlLs2vM+VQ9FoAE7YmwUfjTUliyweBzQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100306162729.60920@gmx.net> References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> <20100305073700.48400@gmx.net> <20100305062321.o1t2h0tu0wc4soog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <20100306162729.60920@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:53:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003060853v6ded415drf6fff08fb13257bc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:53:51 +0000 (UTC) > > > The replace idea is one that I haven't explored. =C2=A0This thread has > > inspired me to work with replace (and mute) functions. On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Kevin > Yeah, try it with "instant" setting (is it same as SUS on EDP? don't know= the jargon so well...). With an "instant pedal" you can place rhythmic acc= ents into an existing loop etc. (Some related info on this interesting topic:) This trick can be done on an EDP with both the Replace and the Substitute command. If setting the "pedal functionality" to "sustain" ("SUS" in the front panel display) rather than "toggle" the replaced/substituted audio slice is quantized according to the cycle value ("cycle" on an EDP is the length of the first loop you created. So in order to "go glitchy" you need to start with a very short loop and multiply it up a length that feels like a musical bar etc). The difference between Replace and Substitute is that with Replace you hear the looping backgrund disappearing as you do the replacing while with Substitute nothing happens until the loop plays back; then you hear the latest live playing slice is substituting a slice of the old layer at that point. --> Seamless sculpting A cool way to use this is to run the EDP at an alternative performance mode - my fav is Replace Mode, but Expert Mode is also common - because then you get the option to set how much of the old loop layer will be substituted (front panel knob or volume pedal plugged in on rear panel). In the software looper Mobius similar control is constantly available by setting its unique parameter Secondary Feedback level (not to be confused with the normal Feedback). While the EDP offers the two length alternatives Loop and Cycle Mobius has a third, Sub Cycle, that is shorter and perfect for these slicing techniques. Substituting with Secondary Feedback control is a very powerful tool for sculpting the loop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 17:25:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51EE63BE7E; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:25:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=O74UEusEHR1iMGelLKn1LwJJneZlz0NSaM2RuxohXBw=; b=sJZWCBP6YHNSQhtYqdQHMNKlhCCxgS3rfCTzXqhq6LCG5jaWDu2dABrO8KDj3YdHNH epJ7oNTGpGj2Wpxwjm5RNvQCxHQAxUNaBic4/7YQKcvSQjojVTN6EL/HwAnBaa3hKps8 iDSJ+aVgF5FnPb8Yos56hUmzwO+3RT/WymLGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=QT0CI8SRvVbsXgfFIx0m2nfVH7nFzOgy5YfBp7CIvrqbMUKQiSKL0ZCfJE6NvDDjGL FNfdpoGUXdpXSuA0PvWSGqxb+EYt6/RIm37CZCeI23ub/YXxAj6sN8iTeBDpOUqgg5ez sbfE84tPUGMsapLIX5p0WNEINpj2w7RIIS8Fg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003060853v6ded415drf6fff08fb13257bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> <20100305073700.48400@gmx.net> <20100305062321.o1t2h0tu0wc4soog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <20100306162729.60920@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003060853v6ded415drf6fff08fb13257bc@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:25:11 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b2bed5d8fbb54a36 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003060925t4572d065k7fc6b0b2df3b9159@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e9ab566da0ea0481251ec8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:25:35 +0000 (UTC) --001485e9ab566da0ea0481251ec8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 . While the EDP offers the two > length alternatives Loop and Cycle Mobius has a third, Sub Cycle, that > is shorter and perfect for these slicing techniques. Substituting with > Secondary Feedback control is a very powerful tool for sculpting the > loop. > > I think you are forgetting that EDP has that too Per.. Its called 8ths.. after setting the 8ths/Cycle setting to 8ths.. the quantise parameter is used to decide what value that 8ths will be... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001485e9ab566da0ea0481251ec8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable . While the EDP offers the two
length alternatives Loop and Cycle Mobius has a third, Sub Cycle, that
is shorter and perfect for these slicing techniques. Substituting with
Secondary Feedback control is a very powerful tool for sculpting the
loop.



I think you are forgetting that EDP has that = too Per.. Its called 8ths..=A0 after setting the 8ths/Cycle setting to 8ths= .. the quantise parameter is used to decide what value that 8ths will be...=

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--001485e9ab566da0ea0481251ec8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 17:29:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03B3B3BE84; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=q0uc91Ft0JJCyJQADXam38MiAveRCyt4auJD79RW5v4=; b=mRGp1KE9F0uFgK0S1/Bpxw0EBiPfaFMR70gATqkb/GckflkF5ByfImQC/3FwQUUoDJ UOjLRv4H3yPztbHSYXKFfm04CsOeSe3CqKzAEYVhwghSacki98UBjXbFTkAP4bLzpASZ WMVGxxwiyUxfxTncJFP9vacXLNo2A0jv79yh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=C5ndD4+V5GeVBFYym/pkr5Wbl8b15CmwXFNaGFENGZLMwVOXKYvR69ugJoUyJJ+q1o Hkw0LeWHFU61l/3z3f4nU4egASU0sbQIR5tEyNzd1XqwdbgEmiQ4tvGufP4zL5vhVpti VTWEjIvWTlGNtK6zKLhurNzU/jGqdSPU86Q/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003060925t4572d065k7fc6b0b2df3b9159@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003040919g1c658ac6x7ec98328bc2fad44@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003040928w46f38535gf08d8a0ea06bd277@mail.gmail.com> <20100305073700.48400@gmx.net> <20100305062321.o1t2h0tu0wc4soog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <20100306162729.60920@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003060853v6ded415drf6fff08fb13257bc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003060925t4572d065k7fc6b0b2df3b9159@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:29:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 08bc73c8c826fa2e Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003060929t1e38d6a3td5af19f12a8efbd1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e9ab5644b4c20481252d3b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:29:47 +0000 (UTC) --001485e9ab5644b4c20481252d3b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ohh. the 2 buttons I quoted are of course reversed.. soory.. On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:25 PM, mark francombe wrote: > . While the EDP offers the two > >> length alternatives Loop and Cycle Mobius has a third, Sub Cycle, that >> is shorter and perfect for these slicing techniques. Substituting with >> Secondary Feedback control is a very powerful tool for sculpting the >> loop. >> >> > > I think you are forgetting that EDP has that too Per.. Its called 8ths.. > after setting the 8ths/Cycle setting to 8ths.. the quantise parameter is > used to decide what value that 8ths will be... > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001485e9ab5644b4c20481252d3b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ohh. the 2 buttons I quoted are of course reversed.. soory..


On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:25 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfranco= mbe.com> wrote:
. While the EDP offers the two
length alternatives Loop and Cycle Mobius has a third, Sub Cycle, that
is shorter and perfect for these slicing techniques. Substituting with
Secondary Feedback control is a very powerful tool for sculpting the
loop.



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boundary=Apple-Mail-154--316283652 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Hi guys linux looping/fierce and the dead Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:46:48 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:46:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-154--316283652 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thanks Jim - will be at your gig tomorrow mate Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 4 Mar 2010, at 17:39, Jim Goodin wrote: > Matt will do, there are 3 trax on our page on RPM that should play > for you, let me knwo if not. here's our public page there http:// > www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/ > task,userProfile/user,8652/Itemid,296/. > > Your Fierce and The Dead sounds really cool, like the subtle ember > that grows to fire approach in that track Matt. > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal record is up > tried to listen on RPM but it wouldn't let me! > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll have the new >> DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Being. >> >> I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port to it. >> >> Will chk out your new electric band. >> >> Jim >> >> On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens wrote: >>> Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to >>> some of >>> you >>> >>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance- >>> loopers- >>> linux-musician >>> >>> And its not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a >>> 19 minute long single out here >>> >>> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com >>> >>> Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing >>> >>> >>> Matt Stevens >>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> ReUse, an introspective textural aural >> www.myspace.com/CtReUse >> >> music links... >> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >> www.myspace.com/jindream >> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic >> >> video work/editing... >> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >> >> social networking... >> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-154--316283652 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Thanks Jim - will be at your gig tomorrow mate

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 4 Mar 2010, = at 17:39, Jim Goodin wrote:

Matt will = do, there are 3 trax on our page on RPM that should play for you, let me = knwo if not.  here's our public page there http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/o= ption,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,8652/Itemid,296/.
=
Your Fierce and The Dead sounds really cool, like the subtle ember = that grows to fire approach in that track Matt.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Matt Stevens = <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com> wrote:
= brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal record is up tried = to listen on RPM but it wouldn't let me!


On 4 Mar = 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote:

Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll = have the new
DigItSignal record there = soon, Absence Of Being.

I run Ubuntu some (linux = like) wonder if that will port to it.

Will chk out = your new electric band.

Jim

On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
=
Live loopers for = linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of
you

linux-musician

And its not got much = looping on it but my new electric project has a
19 minute long single out here


Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing


Matt = Stevens




=

-- 
Sent from = my mobile device
=
ReUse, an introspective textural = aural

music = links...

video work/editing...

social networking...

=

=



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ReUse, an = introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse
music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com<= br>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu= sic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jim= goodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
<= a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu= sic

video work/editing...
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Last year he played in Calgary as part of the Sled Island festiva= l at >> this gorgeous church downtown and I was blown away by his live performan= ce. >> Besides being devilishly charismatic, the mini-orchestra of sounds he >> creates with his live looping setup is incredible. Truly an amazing >> performer. >> >> Your post made me look up some videos of him, and this one, while pretty >> horrible audio quality, showcases some of the ingenious and extremely >> musical ways he uses his looping setup live: >> http://vimeo.com/7509410 >> >> -Myke >> >> >> On 2010-03-04, at 12:03 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> >>> a friend gave me the "Heartland" CD of Owen Pallett. Incredible music, >>> very >>> idiosyncratic and hard to categorize, but melodic and very enjoyable. I >>> hear >>> that he does livelooping - has anyone seen him live? >>> -Michael >>> >> >> > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > > Check out the stop animation music video for "Fix"! > www.jeanpaulderoover.com/fix > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 20:00:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A89183BE82; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B92B448.8090309@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:00:08 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Howard Moscovitz Subject: Chez Mosc - Today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Greetings EM Fans, This is to remind you that the new weekly webcast called Chez Mosc will take to the air again today. Each Saturday at 6:00 pm EST (GMT-5), Howard Moscovitz and I will stream a live, improvised concert from Howard's living room. (Hence the title of the broadcast.) On today's show, Howard plans to play his big Moog IIIc. I hope that you'll "tune in" despite the irreparable brain damage it may cause you. ;-) Point your favorite browser to http://radio.electro-music.com and click on the Tune In link. Or you may stuff http://radio.electro-music.com/listen.m3u into your favorite music player. The radio page also has links to a chat room, the electro-music forum, and more. The radio schedule is listed and has links to each individual program. May peace and contentment be yours. Cheers, Bill Fox P.S. If you are living in or near the Lehigh Valley or plan to be passing through the area, please let me or Howard know if you'd care to join us for a broadcast. From financialconsultant38@yahoo.in Sat Mar 6 21:23:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 572 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:23:50 UTC Received: from ns.libnet.co.jp (s230020.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [220.157.230.20]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE623BE46 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([58.119.126.33]) (authenticated) by ns.libnet.co.jp (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id o23G4Pc04319; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:04:40 +0900 Message-Id: <201003031604.o23G4Pc04319@ns.libnet.co.jp> Reply-To: From: "Mr. K.K." Subject: Dear Prospective Partner. Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:53:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dear Prospective Partner I am sending you this email through the internet with reservations, basically because you may perceive my intentions wrongly. The issue I want to unravel to you is a very classified and sensitive one. It may be very difficult for you to comprehend, but it certainly is the truth. It involves huge funds that I want you to receive on my behalf. On your response via my email address, I will send you the details and more information about myself and the funds. Yours sincerely, Mr. K.K. Financial Consultant kkinglsey@rocketmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 22:48:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 899D93BE81; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2df89cdbaab2f9fabf9d319ce46f269f.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:48:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: review of BOSS SL-20 Slicer and description of my Noise Rig From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Ace Ovil" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:48:15 +0000 (UTC) I own the Boss SL-20 and have had a lot of fun with it. Currently, I'm using it in my Rhythm/Noise solo project called 'AEther Engine' and also in the Japanese Noise band, 'Noise Clinic'. I love resampling of loops so currently, I place this between my first floor loopers (currently a Line 6 M9 but soon to be a Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper) and my Looperlative LP-1. Additionally, in my rig, which, currently, is very noise based, my routing goes like this (I mention all this minutiae first so you can see how I use the SL-20): DESCRIPTION of RIG: Guitar/Bass/Microphone/Shertler Pickup (for multiple instruments) => Line 6 M9 (looper and multi-effects) goes into Audio Input of => Walker Manual Glitch Pedal (for rhythmic and glitching manipulation of Audio input and generation of Pink Noise, White Noise and Silence => DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synthesizer (I love this fantastic mod of a normal Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal --some very radical noises can be created by this unit => Zvex Fuzz Factory (this unit's gate settings can also cause very hip, chaotic glitching effects) => Boss SL-20 Slicer (more about this in a second) Digitech DF-7 Distortion Factory (with many models of classic fuzzes and distortions) (rotary knob goes from dark midrangey models to very treble and fuzzy models with discreet square wave tremelo between each knob click-very cool for rhytym) Ibanez Demon Wah (used as a gradual filter than as a wah wah effect) Looperlative LP-1 Looper split mono signal goes to 1) Boss Miniature Bass Cube (with amp models and aforementioned square wave tremelo effect between modellings) 2) Vox Miniature Battery Powered Amp (with similar models and effects) *I'm in a frenzy of distortion, fuzz and feedback lately, so I am constantly swapping out pedals for the DF-7 and Zvex Fuzz Factory (I love my Digitech Buzz Box, my Digitech Meat Box, Ibanez Bass Stack, Electro Harmoniz Bass Big Muff, Boss DS-20 (distortion modeler similar but more sophisticated and with larger foot print than the Digitech DF7), Seymour Duncan Tweak Box, Pro Co Rat, Big Muff, Dunlp Fuzz Face, and a few other Boss distortion pedals. This is all topped off by a huge marching bass drum and marching snare with huge chains draped over them to acoustically simulate distortion. It's a fun and HEAVY rig.........lol. REVIEW of the BOSS SL-20 I really love this device because I can set up all kinds of rhythmic manipulations but what I really love about it, is that it has an onboard mixer with two knobs that control Dry Sound (no Rhythm) and Wet Sound (Rhythm effect). Because it has two knobs I can do very, very subtle mixes in real time of noise and rhythmic effects. Additionally, the unit has the ability to control the envelope of the rhythmic effect. When the ADSR (as it were) is fully open and the noise content is very heavy, this thing barely pulses (especially if I'm using different distortions on the back side of it). One knob is really the Attack and the second knob controls the length of the Rhythmic Slice. I can get very cool and very subtle manipulations of even the simplest rhythms using these two knobs. I'm not running in stereo so I don't use the stereo modes conventionally, but someone on this list (and please forgive me because I can't remember who it was right now without researching it) hipped me to the use of the Random panning mode of the unit: If you take a rhythmic slice, put it in Random panning mode and then put a dummy plug into one side of the stereo it means that though rhythmic (the sub pulse speed stays the same) the notes spit out will be random. It's like if a hip drummer was putting out a constantly changing ostinato rhythm but always in the same time signature and with the same note division (say 16ths). CRITIQUES: I have to say that I love using this pedal in my current project but that normally, I just use it to spit out constant 8ths, triplet 8ths, 16ths or triplet 16ths. I do this because I then rely on the extensive rhythmic editing capabilities of my Looperlative LP-1 which is last in my chain. I can do so much glitching, replacing, time signature dimunition or augmentation (creating new time signatures out of the straight time signatures spit out by the SL-20) that I don't mind this limitation to much. I do wish , however, that one could create customized rhythms for the slicer, but this is why, frankly, I created the Walker Manual Glitch Pedal. All in all, with only having a single guitar chord or even just touching a live line cable to introduce initial noise, I have a very sophisticated ability to sculpt things rhythmically. I just do it with three devices (Lp1, Sl-20, Walker Manual Glitch) I still have not checked out all the rhythms in the unit, by the way, mostly because I'm not too interested in having a single static rhythm through my pieces of music unless they are monolithically static like straight and constant subdivision. I really dig the SL-20! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 22:52:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24B803BE82; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m/KCJAwTlC3pA1d7q4CJkaS6uUqIlTuef71x6yBY290=; b=Dyp59vZUymAlxqXMDBYVw+JJhWWYEtuxfDlb8aD47ek/SVyQPRbqwf19V9Td1qGHFK n/icijNAqh4WvSMvZ6Tet/knk2cOTtFUc8eeY1GjK540ibUzvMvCN3sBPlwd3qy0vPKy RCQgD8RREevAI6fcCKX4pMLYfZ9j7aD57RpTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Bbt1Oz0eeV31Y+lg2NXRMR1SKoQZtKdnUIjyT26OGzy/+auKOlSIEPZxAFtZp3edgL uv2OiAJPfZYofwaIeCmFfokOisG9SpEeFVxpIyLmwByRF//B6vpYMNXkWz87YhmlE4bQ lEHZ0GvxGuYH9BhrOnmzWoYEfj9Zv7vmD/KKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8586FFFA-F74E-4C76-8E6C-C9583448A368@btinternet.com> <9e0440a61003040749m17ed0534g15de9b8b3654d186@mail.gmail.com> <33BE7AA4-D7AA-47C9-B543-6925168DC555@btinternet.com> <9e0440a61003040939w1ecf22ffi39af431509def5b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:52:10 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003061452n3b12bd5dwfcd0a73cb551df0d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hi guys linux looping/fierce and the dead From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747bf709e3fa9048129ae63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:52:12 +0000 (UTC) --00151747bf709e3fa9048129ae63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Matt thanks very much, best with the new electric project, jazzed for you... On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim - will be at your gig tomorrow mate > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 4 Mar 2010, at 17:39, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Matt will do, there are 3 trax on our page on RPM that should play for you, > let me knwo if not. here's our public page there > http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,8652/Itemid,296/ > . > > Your Fierce and The Dead sounds really cool, like the subtle ember that > grows to fire approach in that track Matt. > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Matt Stevens < > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal record is up tried to >> listen on RPM but it wouldn't let me! >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote: >> >> Matt yes I've been doing BC for awhile and we'll have the new >> DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Being. >> >> I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port to it. >> >> Will chk out your new electric band. >> >> Jim >> >> On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens wrote: >> >> Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of >> you >> >> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance-loopers- >> linux-musician >> >> And its not got much looping on it but my new electric project has a >> 19 minute long single out here >> >> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com >> >> Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing >> >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> ReUse, an introspective textural aural >> www.myspace.com/CtReUse >> >> music links... >> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >> www.myspace.com/jindream >> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic >> >> video work/editing... >> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >> >> social networking... >> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic >> >> >> > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --00151747bf709e3fa9048129ae63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt thanks very much, best with the new electric project, jazzed for you..= .

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Matt St= evens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Thanks Jim - will be at your gig tomorrow mate
On 4 Mar 2010, at 17:39, Jim Goodin wrote:

=
Matt will do, there are 3 trax on our page on RPM= that should play for you, let me knwo if not.=A0 here's our public pag= e there http://www.r= pmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,8652= /Itemid,296/.

Your Fierce and The Dead sounds really cool, like the subtle ember tha= t grows to fire approach in that track Matt.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstev= ensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
brilliant - please let me know when the DigitSignal = record is up tried to listen on RPM but it wouldn't let me!
On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Jim Goodin wrote:

Matt yes I've been doing BC f= or awhile and we'll have the new
DigItSignal record there soon, Absence Of Bein= g.

I run Ubuntu some (linux like) wonder if that will port t= o it.

Will chk out your new electric band.

Jim

On 3/4/10, Matt Stevens <mattstevensg= uitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Live loopers for linux - i thought this may be interesting to some of
you

ht= tp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-loopy-performance-loopers-
linux-musician

And its not got m= uch looping on it but my new electric project has a
19 minute long single out here


Is anyone else using bandcamp? Its amazing


Matt Stevens




=


=
--=A0
Sent from my mobile device

ReUse, an introspective textural aur= al

music links...




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ReUse, an = introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.= com
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.co= m/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social net= working...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic



=

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www.myspace.com/CtReUse

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www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.comwww.myspace.com/jimgood= inmusic
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www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
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--00151747bf709e3fa9048129ae63-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 22:54:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBB9E3BE7F; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=sJnPEHwgwqLFxWPV3dRzRRNbo+9KOc8VYQzW3W+N/yk=; b=CHO0FPncUvgiLmwyBs3yZrjpz13bghktROoUYofDPqck8mz7gX1NwSp/L2Y4IqV9Wa SxQmUMe4woDMVFAAc2ELJJZ4S9JYQjtYhcqILxKYwjSJJ50RbJxJAAtgYDzkZRGmJbPT aXgwqoJNmX4u74CrBspD6pPNhlaw5ycvO/gJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rZRm0gSPNQuQZ6pJBylUN8xXAgaXqQTUVw5JMFOGqEkyqXknpd+vfI5lqUedSZWO8e +Okx75hfETdCGnkguuSXEmamOe9AeaWZrLBF3ZsAP6iIeq2/5ZzqBJz42UjJtXGp1e8Z AOITITvSGjOVQFKH31wfxwwipVNL9EBmMWX9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:54:08 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003061454u7194f1abv69536c626c86829@mail.gmail.com> Subject: VirtualGig&RecordingSpam: DigItSignal Live tomorrow morning at 11 EST From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fe688abd342048129b544 Resent-Message-ID: <4KVJU.A.wFH.R0tkLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:54:09 +0000 (UTC) --0015173fe688abd342048129b544 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Once again DigItSignal, my virtual gathering of a band from over 2 continents 3 countries reconvenes tomorrow morning at 11am EST. You can catch our show by logging on to http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive. Our broadcast kicks off at 11am EST. To find times in your locale visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. Tomorrow morning's video/film that we'll perform to includes 3 different works... 1: Berlin, Symphony for a Great Cityby Walter Ruttman (special thanks to Peter Thorn for this one) - we are running first 30 minutes of this one 2: Alice in Wonderlandby Lewis Carroll, 1903 'short' film adaptation (special thanks to Mike Glodo for this suggestion) 3: Silent Snow fro= m a story by Conrad Aiken. This all depends if I get the 3 processed and built together this evening. At the least we'll run the first one. DigItSignal has released a new CD titled Absence Of Being. The record was done in participation of the RPM Challenge. I'm still in the process of posting it's purchasable availability which wil= l be as digital distribution download and as physical CD. These will be on Bandcamp.com and Kunaki.com. Look for news about that soon. A second new recording (previous mention on the list) that came from a spontaneous duo session with guitarist/electoronics artist* Jeff Duke*, we have released on Bandcamp.com at The Goodin Duke Project - Unforeseen Consequences . This is a very thic= k loud textural journey that I'm very proud to be part of. Jeff is also a member of the DigItSignal ensemble. I'm in the final stages of a third recording that I mentioned a few weeks ago, this one whose proceeds will go to benefit JDRF is another duo work with saxophonist/multi-instrumental artist/member of DigItSignal,* Peter Th=F6rn*, titled 'From Brooklyn to Glindran' and will b= e out in March. Lastly DigItSignal which has clearly become a tapestry for a wide range of work that I'm really proud to be experiencing, now has a new home portal on My Space at http://www.myspace.com/digitsignal. Visit us and if you are around a computer tomorrow morning at 11 EST please logon to http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive for our webcast. Have a great rest of the weekend and new week. Jim --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015173fe688abd342048129b544 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Once again DigItSignal, my virtual gathering of a band from over 2 continents 3 c= ountries reconvenes tomorrow morning at 11am EST.

You can catch our show by logging on to http://www.livestream.com/digitsig= nallive.

Our broadcast kicks off at 11am EST.=A0 To find times in your locale vi= sit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html.
Tomorrow morning's video/film that we'll perform to includes 3 diff= erent works...

1: Berlin, Symphony for a Great City by Walter Ruttman= (special thanks to Peter Thorn for this one) - we are running first 30 min= utes of this one
2: Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll, 1903 'short'= ; film adaptation (special thanks to Mike Glodo for this suggestion)
3: = Silent Snow from a story by Conrad Aiken.

This all depends if I get the 3 processed and built together this eveni= ng.=A0 At the least we'll run the first one.

DigItSignal has rel= eased a new CD titled Absence Of Being.=A0 The record was done in participation of the RPM Challenge.=A0= I'm still in the process of posting it's purchasable availability = which will be as digital distribution download and as physical CD.=A0 These= will be on Bandcamp.com and Kunaki.com.=A0 Look for news about that soon.<= br>
A second new recording (previous mention on the list) that came from a = spontaneous duo session with guitarist/electoronics artist Jeff Duke= , we have released on Bandcamp.com at The Goodin Duke Project - Unforeseen Conseq= uences.=A0 This is a very thick loud textural journey that I'm very= proud to be part of.=A0 Jeff is also a member of the DigItSignal ensemble.=

I'm in the final stages of a third recording that I mentioned a few= weeks ago, this one whose proceeds will go to benefit JDRF is another duo work with saxophonist= /multi-instrumental artist/member of DigItSignal, Peter Th=F6rn, tit= led 'From Brooklyn to Glindran' and will be out in March.

Lastly DigItSignal which has clearly become a tapestry for a wide range= of work that I'm really proud to be experiencing, now has a new home p= ortal on My Space at http://www.myspace.com/digitsignal.=A0 Visit us and if you = are around a computer tomorrow morning at 11 EST please logon to http://www.li= vestream.com/digitsignallive for our webcast.

Have a great rest of the weekend and new week.

Jim



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www.jimgoodinmu= sic.com
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video work/editing...
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social networking...
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--0015173fe688abd342048129b544-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 6 23:14:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5D643BE85; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=znGtofvJRu2LcoeF6/IYm7FICdacuLwzEDvN/+evURA=; b=vrIvj4ruXFJd3JBoXKqrsmSH21+gp8xjO2vBiygS2wgKG+HbArs8Y7INyjVj6lx9az sJ2cQhjR/rrTX7cVtrfUwt4Qk8N4rcbSmRDDZD75ArBkK0RZsRV3BZ8pu2yEgjrpg87L bGVqeZdqwAb0hCVflRPR8kx+7S/fD9NP0gz9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PqQ3E8TIdeJOZxRnMqO5t938reA6N33988PrczsnCHLwAKZLnZUqkdeOivLsRoMdim vEhckyNV4QmGpNtdPa/tmOAc/laj1f8hHQO4ymXU2SBxPGj38V+Myif4Ez5K88Bao1Yw 8kWMaUuVoVjhsjx6FjBWEc+kgKzO2QxjtFngM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100305074054.48400@gmx.net> References: <20100305074054.48400@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:14:58 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003061514v431df8dbm4f099e39bfce9811@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Really cool iphone looping! From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b48331295704812a001a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:14:59 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0b48331295704812a001a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks, that is really cool. I've downloaded the app, and I bought a prs guitarbud, but I haven't tried it out yet. Too many tools! On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi loopers > > who needs a X pound setup if an iphone can do this? > > http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2010/03/04/possibly-the-coolest-thing-ive-seen-the-iphone-do-video/ > > Really cool... and really nice vocal performance. > Supposedly with Everyday Looper. > > Buzap > -- > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --001636e0b48331295704812a001a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, that is really cool. I've downloaded the app, and I bought a pr= s guitarbud, but I haven't tried it out yet. Too many tools!

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
Hi loopers

who needs a X pound setup if an iphone can do this?
http://thenextweb.c= om/shareables/2010/03/04/possibly-the-coolest-thing-ive-seen-the-iphone-do-= video/

Really cool... and really nice vocal performance.
Supposedly with Everyday Looper.

Buzap
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Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser -
jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser




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From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e357f862b59048132933b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:28:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e357f862b59048132933b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone have experience using a virtual drum kit that sounds like an old hammond drum machine? Check out the videos for an example. I'm searching for a virtual drum kit for Logic Pro or at least some samples. Any assistance appreciated... ~adam Hammond http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLgyQG8Pu8s A song using a kit similar to what I am looking for... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElJ9uXZmM0 --0016368e357f862b59048132933b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have experi= ence using a virtual drum kit that sounds like an old hammond drum machine?= Check out the videos for an example. I'm searching for a virtual dru= m kit for Logic Pro or at least some samples. Any assistance appreciated..= . ~adam

Hammond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQLgyQG8Pu8s
A song using a kit similar to what I am = looking for...
--0016368e357f862b59048132933b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 12:52:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC8223BE84; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hMkHpEElpKJB88lcioZ+wwoRGP7x0R6twQf9QLgJSZE=; b=HBooXednBdRgKyzeSnsqd2QJptMB2riXdyeYvykeJtQWeephhH50YGdJS4oAXlzg58 IRSUkRjBmHV+mo/wolZLqDFE9rY3EM1GqbRRj5NvNoH3HqryiLO1BF7acMuNdV3dH8Oj 8n3gIRLpmfiekohxZKV0bYTvX/rj+ami2A8Ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=DeLWiVQJ/DH8F+HedVc9MWNz8kNH3So0u/xz5yCDqQxTFotLlNzmGONPnrn/I/ER4h 5F1fq40fsbpHZeDy3FP1m5LcCNQUDsep+tn+cz8H67j0i3r3v0iuwm7Cd75CNkqW4/t/ uKbwaY2NSpvbkS/Rq7hrF+zd2bFLkTQt5sZCc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:52:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Name that virtual drum kit(?) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f5ae025059970481356de0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:52:55 +0000 (UTC) --001485f5ae025059970481356de0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i'm not 100% sure, but doesn't logic's drum machine have some 808 type samples in it? you could easily tweak them to sound like the ones you're after, imo sim On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM, ^|>^m wrote: > Does anyone have experience using a virtual drum kit that sounds like an > old hammond drum machine? Check out the videos for an example. I'm searching > for a virtual drum kit for Logic Pro or at least some samples. Any > assistance appreciated... ~adam > > Hammond > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLgyQG8Pu8s > > A song using a kit similar to what I am looking for... > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElJ9uXZmM0 > --001485f5ae025059970481356de0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm not 100% sure, but doesn't logic's drum machine have some 8= 08 type samples in it? you could easily tweak them to sound like the ones y= ou're after, imo

sim

On Sun, M= ar 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Does anyone have experience using a virtual drum kit that sounds like an ol= d hammond drum machine? Check out the videos for an example. I'm sear= ching for a virtual drum kit for Logic Pro or at least some samples. Any a= ssistance appreciated... ~adam

Hammond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQLgyQG8P= u8s
<= span style=3D"font-size: 10px; white-space: pre;">
A song using a ki= t similar to what I am looking for...

--001485f5ae025059970481356de0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 12:53:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E4AF3BE87; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=RUqMiPFKHU1++SE9+tQwNunh+9dps/zGso7vFouDkNzofAmjMJs4boNTWipII9W3HpN+fTdekTs84hCQXfdzk07VjbsF06i1HA8T6IWfXH6sFoQHm3eU4xZ5hpjJdSZfx5Kde9e/fxfWMyVg2e6TeBwsz7tu0YeMf/Ycpnpv94s= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1267966433; bh=45UM7Jb9/OioodLLK3eToNIqdtrLuPqrqaxuGGYrPfs=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=jC1QJgVucC6HHY5DlfF8Cc7d6tHsSAuaKzbPyPNSeckwkY16KJI/uofNn34XHvt/uItT0lTxlfdyrDhTlEnHY4lkx7TjL7jCZfkVyIvnqZ4qkObybbDAt7eFnPOph6+AQmRWNMiVAiL+1fz6gLiYXqe5aRwOY+yJy88RYdipudI= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: 9wQyetAVM1kU3eRuM_9YEIcCquvR8OAB4f6i_6_ErQHRXRwfRteZG3zqF4IQ8yhfufPf64q6HlaL6.gxVotF8XQeJIPASl9L4iq7ROzol.If4rHv20rEv.d2QTR0WKZqyqiJvlYzNC5Py.iCvrG5g6ZdoWeidMObc7hPjucfhQt4xoFx8O5CZlx.Tzxn7lqJCGJWv2pnaSqF2jxFLO0P0W1E4p_JcsEpFO7ZsUM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--251061984 From: Matt Stevens Subject: OT Slightly but group relevant Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:53:50 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:53:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--251061984 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hey all There is a lovely Rainer Strashill remix of my song snow here - http://bit.ly/aTQFIh - Thanks guys Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-7--251061984 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hey all

There is a lovely Rainer Strashill remix of my song snow here 

 - http://bit.ly/aTQFIh -


Thanks guys


Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




--Apple-Mail-7--251061984-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 12:59:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 060973BE86; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ghy/GQr2F8+qI4yeG2hUoOp+GjB2oKbx2CAIDYZTRIc=; b=GNI8NyDLfjJU/xL8sDWqXFipIGi121yF6fu7I3Xx8XhoagFRpEGcmVlKJ0aKJEr7YN 1ZgMq/MpkBMNDMGKcIA0sVU3okvkFmHitLCjxZbqxuxuUryWOKxaUuUY+QPpOLuyXYYY YCgbBeFThNNl62ersVRygWsL6LKwdOMHINGtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Tp9pjlZxWJTYRQW/y8/CN6OzjjzAs1WGlxshs86IK5D0HDW6E0fQkwJMWJheuIY3UC FBR+bGowa7J3aJYi2+LrN07Y2GYZ0BsYH2ZrqTOcvRBoBwZWsyZUrOJgC9gZncRJsQuN n+/rhXfB4LvoN43mCkMRh0wJ+z5yOuhTV/QQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:58:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 99f3c22297b8c6f7 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003070458w2d95f546i6415cfe850ccc0b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Name that virtual drum kit(?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d295067edf048135843b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:59:16 +0000 (UTC) --00504502d295067edf048135843b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ooohh tut tut Sacrilege! I could spot an 808 after a Daed Distorto Pedal!!!! On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'm not 100% sure, but doesn't logic's drum machine have some 808 type > samples in it? you could easily tweak them to sound like the ones you're > after, imo > > sim > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM, ^|>^m wrote: > >> Does anyone have experience using a virtual drum kit that sounds like an >> old hammond drum machine? Check out the videos for an example. I'm searching >> for a virtual drum kit for Logic Pro or at least some samples. Any >> assistance appreciated... ~adam >> >> Hammond >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLgyQG8Pu8s >> >> A song using a kit similar to what I am looking for... >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElJ9uXZmM0 >> > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00504502d295067edf048135843b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ooohh tut tut Sacrilege! I could spot an 808 after a Daed Distorto Pedal!!!= !



On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM,= Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
i'm not 100% = sure, but doesn't logic's drum machine have some 808 type samples i= n it? you could easily tweak them to sound like the ones you're after, = imo

sim


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail= .com> wrote:
=
Does anyone have experience using a virtual drum kit that sounds like an ol= d hammond drum machine? Check out the videos for an example. I'm sear= ching for a virtual drum kit for Logic Pro or at least some samples. Any a= ssistance appreciated... ~adam

Hammond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQLgyQG8P= u8s
<= span style=3D"font-size: 10px; white-space: pre;">
A song using a ki= t similar to what I am looking for...




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--00504502d295067edf048135843b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 13:07:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB87D3BE82; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:07:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cNK4bDjjREDMA1RinD3hrFxX3/5Bv3qCi/HxTXvHHOQ=; b=o9Mp+zNkSuycFGPj+lOh46XLQ/YYQxlEwSK/e42vT+CSzfppuy+LF+/oSoPEeCebWp k/hwaMKH7a+MuhlQkbmSgXpcw9JXpUHE4Wnj7tl7F73iNkF2znaFr0ezAYoHzpfIbzDs Pnj+Rto/LkTMj43adc9YdHZj0p0yFZy6vut0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=lKLJyTwROOiEib3wF7tzriEfbMUcMz1LdSk3DGzX/8iWr3xwKEPKgAO6unjdtOepUi 76K5uWBANCAl0XWuXP62mWTbSDiWH8ANnuXYJNgCWAR+54NJmj4xq9g7qpRZ0FcFrts1 H8Sco4A2x/79FKDW1QqV1cSeCHRmDdg0KO1XI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003070458w2d95f546i6415cfe850ccc0b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f1003070458w2d95f546i6415cfe850ccc0b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:07:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Name that virtual drum kit(?) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f45490dc0f740481359f8e Resent-Message-ID: <-LJ9zD.A.g6F.9T6kLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:07:09 +0000 (UTC) --001485f45490dc0f740481359f8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well colour me bad! On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Ooohh tut tut Sacrilege! I could spot an 808 after a Daed Distorto > Pedal!!!! > > --001485f45490dc0f740481359f8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well colour me bad!

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 a= t 12:58 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Ooohh tut tut Sacrilege! I could spot an 808 after a Daed Distorto Pedal!!!= !

--001485f45490dc0f740481359f8e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 13:10:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 478DF3BE8F; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pocfcidkcsxdKhTtBIAS7telCxXmaD44+x5XmspmYPU=; b=QR180QkCDS/GR+7m+7XAIP3TNs4wj9TobtUUOw23ew0QeUanAHUhiaoP58KIqB77yb 5e1z9nmNOwsZ+7SKeBHc4qtQi+cN3fn5m2evvl2B4sg1HoEnjTo3K/SKLqWO/U9NcQNp UGcQlXPdf4b5pYMtcZRW0Rb24Z0OXvVEw89kE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=eOcJy2K51+LxFF/UW1UwjyZ+S6HRrwsbZSe1DHszx6eRi+O9f94R0s/lKGyWS9Yo6s N6h2LSn2JwH3hdJfvX7owLA0ETQ2UluTEsOZrgbm4z4q5564hthrp2pmCWimci4q81/G xXEBcq4WAmLwuV0u9W/kcElwWIB4FNlnUsY9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f1003070458w2d95f546i6415cfe850ccc0b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:10:04 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Name that virtual drum kit(?) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f45490bee4dc048135aa19 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:10:06 +0000 (UTC) --001485f45490bee4dc048135aa19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 please allow me to redeem myself... http://www.inspirationsounds.co.uk/acatalog/samplist-guide-vintage-drum-machines.html "Roland TR-77, TR-606, TR-808, TR-909 , CR-78, CR-8000. LinnDrum LM-1. Oberheim DMX, DX. *Wurlitzer Sideman*. Korg DDD-1. EMU SP-12 and the Yamaha RX5." sim On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > well colour me bad! > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Ooohh tut tut Sacrilege! I could spot an 808 after a Daed Distorto >> Pedal!!!! >> >> --001485f45490bee4dc048135aa19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please allow me to redeem myself...

http://ww= w.inspirationsounds.co.uk/acatalog/samplist-guide-vintage-drum-machines.htm= l

"Roland TR-77, TR-606, TR-808, TR-909 , CR-78, CR-8000. LinnDrum L= M-1. Oberheim DMX, DX. Wurlitzer Sideman. Korg DDD-1. EMU SP-12 and the Yamaha RX5."

sim

On Sun, Mar = 7, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> = wrote:
well colour me ba= d!


On S= un, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com= > wrote:
Ooohh tut tut Sacrilege! I could spot an 808 after a Daed Distorto Pedal!!!= !


--001485f45490bee4dc048135aa19-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 13:50:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 740F13BEA2; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bJ7n7ryx22hroKTceokaF3Cx8PF+AiNbb64K3ZnoqfQ=; b=PkNYjTpyDpJGhThjqPxBqXPAmwWyNmA/iYribRzXue7Jyp/f7XGH/sja0x0gAJQseC N1RPoFQV3EF8ItKxQyEj/CDM4y/99JlLcE4A/O4jymq4pigmBHpvERNJhsUOUWinbxkV hEr6jxlaFchTi65M/ojznsh/z6AUJJly/OqRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A7h+24tNf9CUlvjgZaREHra6Eid84CInLvhBsKY2s+/H0t1C+6qzAzCCX7o/JMec74 h4RDprHXTFWY4bibI5ropo85sZiEIagBN9KdwgSTkoAp8aUa9BQKSq9EmhI/rfwvl8cf VAVV2WYZ/IPUXhwoyuOpQgTc/cE9ecyoTxf+Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:50:56 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003070550h5473ca15t65fa93f883ff69e2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Name that virtual drum kit(?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Adam, I listened to the video and my opinion is that no "virtual drum kit", instantly available, matches those sounds. The one that comes close IMHO is a Roland TR-505. But you would have to put a little rez filter fix on the toms to get close using a 505 set. But why looking for "a virtual drum kit", why not just mock up the needed samples in the EXS24? Preferably using using a separate instance for the toms to dial in that wet rezo-filter-envelope sound either by the filter settings in the EXS24 or by slapping an Autofilter after it. I bet you could create all those drum sounds with the ES1 synth. Do so and bounce samples do disc and then drop the samples into the EXS24 to make your instrument. Or put the samples in the UltraBeat if you fancy step sequencer fiddling like on the old Roland drum boxes (you know you can "play" the patterns by MIDI notes, a cool way of jamming with the Ultrabeat). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'm not 100% sure, but doesn't logic's drum machine have some 808 type > samples in it? you could easily tweak them to sound like the ones you're > after, imo > > sim > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM, ^|>^m wrote: >> >> Does anyone have experience using a virtual drum kit that sounds like an >> old hammond drum machine? Check out the videos for an example. I'm searching >> for a virtual drum kit for Logic Pro or at least some samples. Any >> assistance appreciated... ~adam >> Hammond >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLgyQG8Pu8s >> A song using a kit similar to what I am looking for... >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElJ9uXZmM0 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 14:46:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 387EF3BE81; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=cICZNYV1turv09CcNmGS9XoEL1y2MpQZOzFphclNwTU=; b=gw+KG8qTZ9DilfppskTjhF1Y3MYppfCIt8mlDGl1a+9X201ThYw0aiJnbF/aKaHgft k2gNK1tP+APkTF7GuKfwlXkZBwQhgyMhOE78AAK6Qh7PS1H0OVBXmMXVxLqFX9vVHd42 JjHDuoiGXtiYFV9MmJWQ9gBSj2sj1LqbmzYsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NgkmkwJ3LcyOsZ1tn9vf7BI2ccAtIggxxElYkqA8TPr6uAyGgTKjqYFF3+Jz++6F1d vIb5MaN9QGWK+JTOUgG9irpBXt3h0urb+ll/DI1bRV9ufc1Ly8/j4wttzRB8ByXSyKsN CwxEQZehT2/odcys1jOR05Z2Qro2GeOj9wlKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:46:50 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Any Amplitube 3 early adopters here? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Anyone tried out the amp/speaker/mik/effects simulating software Amplitube 3 yet? These days I have totally migrated to laptop driven performance tools for live playing and the first guitar amp simulator I found that I got a good sound out of was Amplitube 2, particularly the Jimi Hendrix edition (but I find some parts of the Metal edition useful as well). When examining NI's Guitar Rig I found that GR didn't sound as good to me but offered a very cool and flexible effect routing system within the plug-in. I don't own GR, and won't buy it because of the sound issue, but I have been dreaming lately about certain step sequencing based effects and now Amplitube 3 suddenly comes around offering some these effects: stepfilter, stepslicer, tapdelay, rezo, swell. http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/features/ I'm interested in hearing any experiences with these effects in AT3. Also in hearing about the CPU demand of AT3. AT2 is bit too CPU demanding here to set up dual input stacks, which is what you use with a Chapman Stick since it puts out two signals. I have no problem running dual stacks by using Apple's AmpDesigner in Mainstage and it sounds just as good to me as Amplitube, but I have found no good solution for such step sequence based effects in Mainstage. So if the CPU issue will be cool I'm thinking that AT3 would be useful for building an "enhanced custom mainstage" in Bidule (I think some stuff can be set up better in Bidule compared to the default functionality in Mainstage that can't be user customized, for example decay preservation when switching sound patch). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 16:11:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4C953BE85; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=lTvgqqnbz9mWH8PosfejWi6g9nzq/x1JjORWvn3U9Ec=; b=sEKhmkOfdYRsXN7LzyUpCffLJzfztkBZWrOMkPzaXVFwFTpqLxzeWPW8HKPg59pDWT xRJ7xdbdfdSteE3PaTyBD2Dav8tc8MecCh4Ff+jqwPPhSEQAeYUAjH/BzQU4rQCYhE0Z iuY4/txuPkF2c9fYiA9BAPQyuTZozOsYkGh8o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fucvqxwbnexha/qI4Ejq1qnRd8WMTvaTF+ckkovHf3CM4D1SwkYOk0R9xvnGh45l5N wvt54C71huzuPE8P0IEU3dTlV91HGXMLsfwOu7uSkVsSVZ3Ts8NeTki+rYax1pPNBZSg OMngIc8IBl70ZkPAgWC3BojvStpbcdmmwTBpw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:11:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, Back on earth after a fantastic Loopfest :) I would like to thank all the people who came all the way to Antwerp. And actually, there where a lot, about 75 I think, which means we almost sold out the venue. Btw: the whole show has been recorded, I'll keep you posted on this. Here are some pictures of the loopfest http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjugge/sets/72157623570325762/show/ -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 16:14:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D4B13BE84; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WRDwTF3Vee8sgZZiBrQS7dp7AOz+dAbECsLE5c9lcPo=; b=Tu/UkSkmaA+pFPEHit+q31CjW1yrPacQIvWHF9cSS6JmOhOaE0WF0QLExw/lj8XMZK OOymFtks+8cuZ0hdLym4il7P/AUvpyO6N+ozonbGxA0XVLS9KZE/8TlqAGvUmGKbiTLH 4bJSSNqBrun+cHysDuFOQbzzL0WFeMz0kSowA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=XXWcjb9iJWbdpxA5hP4aUyj3B7jNthMkC626z4aQQossiAHHCJty4iMaiNaPHnglfj 6SlQoJvtZmedacd4v7KhoqXn2ulmWZeftc2/Wk8cHhYZPUdcH53cr7oEtt73MDDEEIaR W+VEvrtnnS+8Mvtjl6LDp0TEbITAJgMzjKZ7Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:13:58 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9d9e6b283a0481383c3d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:14:01 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9d9e6b283a0481383c3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 brilliant - glad it went well! looking forward to hearig the recordings sim On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi all, > Back on earth after a fantastic Loopfest :) I would like to thank all > the people who came all the way to Antwerp. And actually, there where > a lot, about 75 I think, which means we almost sold out the venue. > Btw: the whole show has been recorded, I'll keep you posted on this. > Here are some pictures of the loopfest > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjugge/sets/72157623570325762/show/ > > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --0016363b9d9e6b283a0481383c3d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable brilliant - glad it went well!

looking forward to hearig the recordi= ngs

sim

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:1= 1 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Back on earth after a fantastic Loopfest :) I would like to thank all
the people who came all the way to Antwerp. And actually, there where
a lot, about 75 I think, which means we almost sold out the venue.
Btw: the whole show has been recorded, I'll keep you posted on this. Here are some pictures of the loopfest

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjugge/sets/72157623570325= 762/show/


--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premoni= tionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/=


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 17:22:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0E583BE81; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hYU2OaWHz4z2siW6hY42DRRYsgHyjQ9Txnrc6J3ApWc=; b=gHO7Mpj1Zq+rT4zhmkStfKQgq1PKseiaQtXaEpDoRGW4DLAMXZ1NF85G1/w9Y31haN KuMVemskVjW4k55qeQJWqZBNTpyyysgrzHX7DMSh5DlF2YHqctwlyVZtng3Dd3M6t/F0 Q3CbmxTb/GKWzkJh/be3oT4yvrvEJl6AuoEhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VtEbc1n+upth/9lMMYAPhZiEVW6hKDtMVQZ/UaARUaBfPFPJu0OsFjuGAFxrXp+GkZ 0L2s1BKA744fZemCPS5IO111/Fuf1v4wImtkHbANvZ4ZhMudnvy9A3G6fYKwQHihaPkf v1ZUMQh2DT0I68JM3MB+y1gqC5cJMCb6WXbJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:22:40 -0800 Message-ID: <4cdf3b971003070922r23e6c9dvc9e6cb2cbd413165@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Any Amplitube 3 early adopters here? From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c92b05184fdb0481393265 Resent-Message-ID: <2drAsD.A.FOE.hD-kLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:22:41 +0000 (UTC) --001636c92b05184fdb0481393265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I grabbed the demo, it's more than decent. Guitar Rig really stepped things up in versions 3 and 4( I currently use gr4). As a consequence, I would imagine AT3 is at least as good, if not better, given that it's coming out almost a full year later than GR4. I can say that CPU demand, at least in the demo is much lighter than AT2, and the amp models sound fantastic! I've only tried out the demo though, so keep that in mind. You should check out GR4 as well, 3 was a huge step from 2 (which I refused to use, it sounded so digital and generic) with distortions gaining real sounding tone, and the amps starting to sound great. With 4 however, they've hit it out of the park(save for the bugs, which suck like not being able to use the looper) with the simulations and effects routing, and the new control room function, where you use up to 10 different mics on a cabinet. Both AT3 and GR4 are insanely good pieces of software! On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Anyone tried out the amp/speaker/mik/effects simulating software > Amplitube 3 yet? > > These days I have totally migrated to laptop driven performance tools > for live playing and the first guitar amp simulator I found that I got > a good sound out of was Amplitube 2, particularly the Jimi Hendrix > edition (but I find some parts of the Metal edition useful as well). > When examining NI's Guitar Rig I found that GR didn't sound as good to > me but offered a very cool and flexible effect routing system within > the plug-in. I don't own GR, and won't buy it because of the sound > issue, but I have been dreaming lately about certain step sequencing > based effects and now Amplitube 3 suddenly comes around offering some > these effects: stepfilter, stepslicer, tapdelay, rezo, swell. > > http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/features/ > > I'm interested in hearing any experiences with these effects in AT3. > Also in hearing about the CPU demand of AT3. AT2 is bit too CPU > demanding here to set up dual input stacks, which is what you use with > a Chapman Stick since it puts out two signals. I have no problem > running dual stacks by using Apple's AmpDesigner in Mainstage and it > sounds just as good to me as Amplitube, but I have found no good > solution for such step sequence based effects in Mainstage. So if the > CPU issue will be cool I'm thinking that AT3 would be useful for > building an "enhanced custom mainstage" in Bidule (I think some stuff > can be set up better in Bidule compared to the default functionality > in Mainstage that can't be user customized, for example decay > preservation when switching sound patch). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --001636c92b05184fdb0481393265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I grabbed the demo, it's more than decent. Guitar Rig really stepped th= ings up in versions 3 and 4( I currently use gr4). As a consequence, I woul= d imagine AT3 is at least as good, if not better, given that it's comin= g out almost a full year later than GR4. I can say that CPU demand, at leas= t in the demo is much lighter than AT2, and the amp models sound fantastic!= I've only tried out the demo though, so keep that in mind.
You should check out GR4 as well, 3 was a huge step from 2 (which I refused= to use, it sounded so digital and generic) with distortions gaining real s= ounding tone, and the amps starting to sound great. With 4 however, they= 9;ve hit it out of the park(save for the bugs, which suck like not being ab= le to use the looper) with the simulations and effects routing, and the new= control room function, where you use up to 10 different mics on a cabinet.= Both AT3 and GR4 are insanely good pieces of software!

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Per Boysen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><perboysen@gmail= .com> wrote:
Anyone tried out the amp/speaker/mik/effects simulating software
Amplitube 3 yet?

These days I have totally migrated to laptop driven performance tools
for live playing and the first guitar amp simulator I found that I got
a good sound out of was Amplitube 2, particularly the Jimi Hendrix
edition (but I find some parts of the Metal edition useful as well).
When examining NI's Guitar Rig I found that GR didn't sound as good= to
me but offered a very cool and flexible effect routing system within
the plug-in. I don't own GR, and won't buy it because of the sound<= br> issue, but I have been dreaming lately about certain step sequencing
based effects and now Amplitube 3 suddenly comes around offering some
these effects: stepfilter, stepslicer, tapdelay, rezo, swell.

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/features/

I'm interested in hearing any experiences with these effects in AT3. Also in hearing about the CPU demand of AT3. AT2 is bit too CPU
demanding here to set up dual input stacks, which is what you use with
a Chapman Stick since it puts out two signals. I have no problem
running dual stacks by using Apple's AmpDesigner in Mainstage and it sounds just as good to me as Amplitube, but I have found no good
solution for such step sequence based effects in Mainstage. So if the
CPU issue will be cool I'm thinking that AT3 would be useful for
building an "enhanced custom mainstage" in Bidule (I think some s= tuff
can be set up better in Bidule compared to the default functionality
in Mainstage that can't be user customized, for example decay
preservation when switching sound patch).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


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Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausr= agenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 17:59:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 874B53BE86; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L649HB8f/JuuXmGRcz0ZA9N/XzQBWyGUM0U9WI7PQ9A=; b=uUoeDYQyj/do5wVwSHMDaB2f++MERZM4Ee7doUNGEM4QGQWiOcWt1ZHWlBYGVqZNE/ kD3/6RFz/Lpjdipikyubw2SS3OFPf84EM91LM39bwauHstMcrawdGtQkRF/PEuPj8FIK XqZF380UbJ7o1oG2vkXnGft4lag9+0UCJIVAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nv4OMzpn44t7fB9GuOlI6mzxT+kzYf57Rh6gNMNwhg2F4S9z0gNjbMoXB3WJiZpTng XjaHSgoy2SoIbD6NS1/A5MKsBbnajjsT73rN9q4VGhQtNrzqHLOBxn8/fOWuGzfQmh+3 YIHrNwntaSEF2VxRrtuFWlllySb6QXMc8OLuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:59:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:59:51 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > brilliant - glad it went well! > looking forward to hearig the recordings Hi Simeon, Everything went well, the sound of the PA was awsome which is very important for the type of music we presented yesterday. Btw: some excellent black and white pics of another photographer http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjaminvanderzalm/sets/72157623572149420/show/ -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 18:12:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93AE73BE81; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B93D56D.3030006@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:33:49 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for March 6, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:12:13 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2010/100306.html On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Still Hillman] Into the Blue Sequences No. 9 VA [Waveshape] Anfang Sequences No. 9 VA [[Xylanja] Ex-Manequin Sequences No. 9 Dieter Mobius The Tracker Blotch (Nepenthe) Ricochet Gathering Muflon Shanty Muflon Sourcerers (Syngate) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== David Wahler Quest A Star Danced (Darius) Ian C. Bouras Realizing It's Over The Certainty of Being Found (SDMP) Ian C. Bouras Thoughts On Angels The Certainty of Being Found and Sarcasm (SDMP) Steve Barnes Watching New Day (A. D. Music) Michael DeMaria Sunlight The River (Ontos) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Jinetes Negros] Atlantis Tuonen Tytar II (Musea) VA [The Samurai of Colossus Tuonen Tytar II (Musea) Prog] VA [B612] Sanaton Laulu Tuonen Tytar II (Musea) VA [Simon Says] Intro Purgatorio (Musea) VA [Nemo] Entre Deux Rives Purgatorio (Musea) VA [Ozone Player] Canto 3 Purgatorio (Musea) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/UTC-5:00. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. 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To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 18:26:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39BDB3BE6F; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eGGSLhvmR7V2kmFYrJ4Q6eEFaxxQ+H3cXrEgomkt4Z0=; b=mZePXv2fAH/WKPulQGRvoMhroRHzM4dpsi9gld0uJKKMEc41p9mKpo39cWwXZ5gtr6 n6iIvFmbxLS6RQ1bWAgBqsmZwinrq56smE0bvSxxDiIvOrG19r0n+vwlCwk5gkYB1+9C i+KaccVoJ31ny8IAwjS2PLbqAIrLpP86+staM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=V4Q1aZgCoRnDiGlFZILBdyJilcBjo6h8x6UlS7cu+NNuOfeU3TkJ9Biz055fnfqXlQ X/dEP23YDJ8RuxTYzqHUKPy1/416NtgCtuG9GFFp3SupfYHtKzpeH4+jlJl1B3nqYedN pkx2Zg8soqkzwmNVgaRw61kjWDAZWb5VvVLqQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:26:46 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9d9e5967c004813a1757 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:26:48 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9d9e5967c004813a1757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 excellent...and congrats! Hi Simeon, > Everything went well, the sound of the PA was awsome which is very > important for the type of music we presented yesterday. > > Btw: some excellent black and white pics of another photographer > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjaminvanderzalm/sets/72157623572149420/show/ > > --0016363b9d9e5967c004813a1757 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 excellent...and congrats!


Hi Simeon,
Everything went well, the sound of the PA was awsome which is very
important for the type of music we presented yesterday.

Btw: some excellent black and white pics of another photographer

http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjaminvanderzalm/sets/72157623572149420/show/

--0016363b9d9e5967c004813a1757-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 20:25:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D5F93BE81; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3C0EDB23-1454-4423-B5A6-A74EC36C7DAC@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: re:Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:24:57 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Nice........... do all of the participants need to be this good looking????? Hey I spotted some sexy amps, did people bring there own amplifiers? What was the guitar you were playing Luis? looking forward to hearing this. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 20:52:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 053C53BE81; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=C5HOWlsw6aCW6wQP3wCIwOFsrqUMmvIxjFY2GXIHhxA=; b=XbUJ5opKRJ1qoqqpbWvPt2NtmJPwRI4v6mqXuMAfl0mM8aaA1Z0ueegGPKtZsO6U5u TwohLHbUajgIerJ+PuwgjQFIrz7d2cJ3QgYL+uMp5q+EbSJ5Hc9gHSMEqE+56wlHHcId tc3+pw5bh4OZcne+uyx5KIonyqrK2zHFZEEkk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=LvAGBez4xuaPKWyFyRLdckT0ppy/vjsQXmu5JbxZKOMIgPR2Ri7peqI6y3IDSv+Xqi ig3aK5Fs2CV1KKk4WKXHYWHaydnecFQyyHw/fWvw09kOmJ4T48xAqnscPBT5ym6ALpj0 /oGubv/xYVnBaJ/FYReWfLW77dJ5WZ7d5uNGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:52:07 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7f8fca976b7abbae Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e9ab5653b5fc04813c2004 Resent-Message-ID: <4YrxDB.A.st.MIBlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:52:28 +0000 (UTC) --001485e9ab5653b5fc04813c2004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old cheat of hitting reply... heres a better one On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe wrot= e: > After about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we=B4re not > really getting along.. and Im thinking of selling. > I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and available is = a > bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did was give= me > more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. Even th= o > that is why I got it. I bought it in an attempt to remove things from the > floor (namely a Space Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU) = and > it more than made up for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a > lovely reverb patch, with just the right amount of compression.. lovely..= . > but expensive!!! > > Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why its so great= .. > Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do the vg thing= s > cost these days? > > Mark > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --001485e9ab5653b5fc04813c2004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old cheat of hitting repl= y... heres a better one

On Sun, Mar 7, 20= 10 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
After about 6 mon= ths with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we=B4re not really getting alo= ng.. and Im thinking of selling.
I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and available is a = bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did was give m= e more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. Even th= o that is why I got it. I bought it in an attempt to remove things from the= floor (namely a Space Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU) a= nd it more than made up for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a l= ovely reverb patch, with just the right amount of compression.. lovely... b= ut expensive!!!

Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why its so gre= at.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do the vg th= ings cost these days?

Mark

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www.markfrancombe.com
= www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vi= meo.com/user825094
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--001485e9ab5653b5fc04813c2004-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 21:14:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13F063BE86; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 355498009/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.248.23/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.248.23 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAOalk0tPTvgX/2dsb2JhbAAH1B6EeAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,598,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="355498009" Message-ID: <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:14:09 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Nadia Salom wrote: > simply and eloquently. You allow yourself to be carried away with the > And then you realize... it is great to be carried away like this, but it > is also rather boring... after a while... A > > How does one go about killing a loop? I suppose you've just got to do it. How about an analogy. If someone doesn't have much technique on their instrument, they can learn to play a few things, even wonderful things, can get carried away...but can't vary the music. To create variation with a looping device...learn to play it like you would an instrument. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 21:31:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1DF73BE84; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Us4CstKuPOM0NwuHbiexmx0WrJBQTalSgx3Od36lVxk=; b=NZQdqMXGVQeJcTT/qMXUZFp5CoeVZfWNGlXb5/UGjEOpJE8M2wFQzpJ08uttjTuXk0 g/CXHbQVTsf3oBoMx4oqNguDrRA2oQl8NXAC3pwyBh+MGykvkV3oT6XudFGiyqhcAMhD y4zc/pROmTBzwNNq20ZCJ3FsTD5MK1dwWGZ3w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PPpA5NGMFW9ei4cLrhXKUVHGGB8SLsCH44dwgHijN1BvzvMPI83byOWkZL9PDUIH8g ooptvjS1gNsRYZK+WJlnPwKUfRrptfCsdazTwto0uvt/5fdLjL5DlNZx7bcupfuzPkBp IimWvbeeL9/hmHaQK8BV7Q/a/WSFfJCWq2OLw= Message-ID: <4B941B21.3080003@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:31:13 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! References: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Mark, it's kinda hard to tell what to recommend because it doesn't immediately become clear what exactly you're after... My inspirational story: I don't like it that much, because taking into account what you could do with it with all the complex routing and modulation possibilities, it just lacks processing power big time. Apart from that, I already said what makes it so great (and in that respect, it's only paralleled by the Eventide Orville/H8000 and the Kurzweil KSP8/KDFX thingies), and that's flexibility, especially with regard to modulation. There's a big downside, and that is that it takes a huge amount of thinking in terms of signal processing involved to implement what you're after. At least that's a downside for people who don't have their brains wired in the s- or z-transformed domain. There's also a big plus, and that is price/performance ratio. While this thing originally listed (like eight years ago, when it was introduced) at around €2k (and with that only about 10% below an Eventide Eclipse), prices have dropped to €750 (while the Eclipse stayed the same); prepal lists it at around €550, and some ebay auctions fetched between €380 and €440. And with that, it's in the same price range as an Eventide Timefactor, and I personally would prefer the TC to the Timefactor, simply because of greater flexibility. Some of the good sides are details: the FireworX works very well with delays synced to an unstable MIDI clock (like with Repeater pre-OS2) and in that regard is superior to all my other thingies. I also like the ability to display the presets in a list (something that makes sense for a multi-100-patches device). And the digital distortion is beautifully ugly. Ah yes, and the moduulation possibilities - we already had this discussion when Bill asked for a ducked delay. It's also great to do emulations of everybody's favourite analogue boxes: I have a great MAM RS3, a ZVEX Ooh Wah and a Space Echo emulation which I like a lot. Plus a super-goes-to-eleven-harcore distortion that is very dynamic to your playing (i.e. the output volume is modulated by your input signal's amplitude). Yes, there's a lot of things you can do with it. And unless you're in a situation where you need to sell it to finance something else which you need more, I'd suggest you keep it. Current prices are considerably below its value imo. Rainer > > After about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that > we´re not really getting along.. and Im thinking of selling. > I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and > available is a bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and > all that did was give me more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down > and made my own sounds.. Even tho that is why I got it. I bought > it in an attempt to remove things from the floor (namely a Space > Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU) and it more > than made up for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a > lovely reverb patch, with just the right amount of compression.. > lovely... but expensive!!! > -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 21:33:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1969B3BE85; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8ZX5zx2xnqfBqr37HYXFQtEZ8m+m6fblRwBubTsnPIs=; b=xj1KNgM532XD0SSEtFfWbnU97zA46qfb1HB28CCWPrPHpqHaZ0vsSeCFm3HgaxHgDG wkqp4i0e/qmUSHkuk80zW+5wZ+X5q3Old6s0lCjc9Zu4s7X4qtK1QrFBU7/NqseSLlxl jnB+zfffCuwiM7fy0FiJo0kUDztR3MC2gHq9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CMLvVxwdQUon1ohTEQEg4zb1IE/yTRlFqMdXXkmfqW9Q+DnNB+gsu0NOVrpMDnXi5l G9dgL7NKUP41cp/y64a9iQJWMHe87SwBzjeVWYfdzDo2NNqVRiNEVQeJov9ma3x1f9X3 7sKgfRlehFetGj/FFbe6O4ufMbp2CQg210q30= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:33:38 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003071333p6d1ec842n37879bae855c4013@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:33:40 +0000 (UTC) As a formerly FireworX empowered loopist I'd like to post my opinion on it: It is great! Now, that was the short version. I can't tell about the presents and everything, since I didn't use them, but where this unit really rocks is if you want something PRE looper to seriously mutilate sound and rhythm. That's how I used it, MIDI clock sync slaved to the looper but before the looper in the audio signal chain - and it really excelled in that position. I was able to make delays that would *seamlessly* change the timing from let's say a quarter note triplet up to a sixteenth note. This "delay time morphing" I controlled from a MIDI expression pedal. Guess it's needless to tell how cool it sounds while the sweeping delay time value passes through all out-of-musical-sync values until it locks in with a new groove, all while you play rhythmic stuff though the unit. I used that quite a lot on the album I did with Greek bassist/loopist Costas Andreou, especially the first track. Other cool stuff you can do with the FireworX is to make a parallel signal path where you put a pitch shifter set to any range, I used mostly octave up or octave down. Then you play through the unit while modding pitch by a MIDI expression pedal. That's awesome - like playing two instruments at once, because here and there you find intervals that sound really cool as a blending by the non pitched and the pitched signal. A lot more organically sounding that simply "playing though a fixed pitch shifter". Also used on the Costas album. Finally, a very cool trick: Using the envelope follower module to modulate any other parameter of choice. My fav here is to set up an "infinite delay loop". That means full feedback, no sound will ever stop. Then you modulate the feedback parameter of the delay module by the input signal strength, but reversed. This means that if you do not play anything the sound in the delay line will repeat infinitely (following the looper tempo, of course) but if you play one note this note will bring down the feedback as it enters the delay and sort of "soft substitute" the looping audio. If you like using these techniques and like having rack mountable units the FireworX is a box you should get when a chance occurs. I don't think they make them any more and it doesn't seem probable that more similar products will be produced in the future, many DIY audio mutilants are going software and crippling the already rather nisched market. I don't work for TC. I sold my old FwX only because I needed money in an urgent situation. I had learned how this awesome box works so I would be able to set up my fav patches in software on future laptop rigs. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:52 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old cheat of hitting > reply... heres a better one > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe > wrote: >> >> After about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we=C2=B4re= not >> really getting along.. and Im thinking of selling. >> I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and available is= a >> bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did was giv= e me >> more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. Even t= ho >> that is why I got it. I bought it in an attempt to remove things from th= e >> floor (namely a Space Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU)= and >> it more than made up for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a >> lovely reverb patch, with just the right amount of compression.. lovely.= .. >> but expensive!!! >> >> Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why its so >> great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do the= vg >> things cost these days? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 21:50:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35E103BE82; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=PpVW0PXpFnglsnK46IjkDvEmqfbmi6/Q1sGgpzo7+Cw=; b=TFiwpGmeKol5bwhU9rEAATBKut/JJXS7X8C6gRCmr7Sul8P09toKzrNXeXhTtKJyai QWSJc01hvbAhGHRK7yvClDMO02NmIHSvVfzbWnnamuin4yNef6K5x3cOVBNsDtdJguyd 6RaLWNcMb5YnhaE3et/rjUidPYWLQJrsLsJno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=n/cAHA5PoUIO0wUbWe96U8R1g94n13spL8vfTJAV+5+l5WHmUkiXVayH+gBLqcRCn1 98zNGQlaReK2UChjt39VJF2ffsErBK41BMMLjwOFKd7Zm60UD4WYIM7ASnYc1hMQHEdD 0qc6ARQojdPIUsOT/H/6yJ3joCoiX4hX3FxZA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003071333p6d1ec842n37879bae855c4013@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003071333p6d1ec842n37879bae855c4013@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:50:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 70e122a7172d94ad Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003071350s795cee5arc99b6d3f2dbce242@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cfb088e85704813cf18f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:50:59 +0000 (UTC) --00504502cfb088e85704813cf18f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OKAY.. Well Ill dive back in again... its just. well Ive been getting wrist ache going thru all the patches and not really stopping long enough on anything to really find out how its made up... Im really a knobs man.. and menus and up down buttons just get to me... I D= O like all the suggestions you have made.. and have done a few (I agree with Rainer that the digi distort is awsome) But well I just have to FIND it whe= n I need it... Im a bit interested HOW you did this changing the delay timing thing Per.. but I guess its difficult to remember when you dont have it now? Just recently Ive been playing.. hard.. into the loopers with only distortion.. and all the airy fairyness of shimmering reverbs and bouncing stereo delays seems a bit well.. old person.. and I guess Im going thru tha= t mid life thing... just UNloaded Eno form the iPhone and put the Pistols on... But.. well maybe Ill just have to get my hands dirty and jump in... Thanks guys... Mark On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > As a formerly FireworX empowered loopist I'd like to post my opinion > on it: It is great! Now, that was the short version. I can't tell > about the presents and everything, since I didn't use them, but where > this unit really rocks is if you want something PRE looper to > seriously mutilate sound and rhythm. That's how I used it, MIDI clock > sync slaved to the looper but before the looper in the audio signal > chain - and it really excelled in that position. I was able to make > delays that would *seamlessly* change the timing from let's say a > quarter note triplet up to a sixteenth note. This "delay time > morphing" I controlled from a MIDI expression pedal. Guess it's > needless to tell how cool it sounds while the sweeping delay time > value passes through all out-of-musical-sync values until it locks in > with a new groove, all while you play rhythmic stuff though the unit. > I used that quite a lot on the album I did with Greek bassist/loopist > Costas Andreou, especially the first track. > > Other cool stuff you can do with the FireworX is to make a parallel > signal path where you put a pitch shifter set to any range, I used > mostly octave up or octave down. Then you play through the unit while > modding pitch by a MIDI expression pedal. That's awesome - like > playing two instruments at once, because here and there you find > intervals that sound really cool as a blending by the non pitched and > the pitched signal. A lot more organically sounding that simply > "playing though a fixed pitch shifter". Also used on the Costas album. > > Finally, a very cool trick: Using the envelope follower module to > modulate any other parameter of choice. My fav here is to set up an > "infinite delay loop". That means full feedback, no sound will ever > stop. Then you modulate the feedback parameter of the delay module by > the input signal strength, but reversed. This means that if you do not > play anything the sound in the delay line will repeat infinitely > (following the looper tempo, of course) but if you play one note this > note will bring down the feedback as it enters the delay and sort of > "soft substitute" the looping audio. > > If you like using these techniques and like having rack mountable > units the FireworX is a box you should get when a chance occurs. I > don't think they make them any more and it doesn't seem probable that > more similar products will be produced in the future, many DIY audio > mutilants are going software and crippling the already rather nisched > market. > > I don't work for TC. I sold my old FwX only because I needed money in > an urgent situation. I had learned how this awesome box works so I > would be able to set up my fav patches in software on future laptop > rigs. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:52 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old cheat of hitting > > reply... heres a better one > > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe > > wrote: > >> > >> After about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we=B4re = not > >> really getting along.. and Im thinking of selling. > >> I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and available = is > a > >> bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did was > give me > >> more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. Even > tho > >> that is why I got it. I bought it in an attempt to remove things from > the > >> floor (namely a Space Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PS= U) > and > >> it more than made up for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a > >> lovely reverb patch, with just the right amount of compression.. > lovely... > >> but expensive!!! > >> > >> Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why its so > >> great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do t= he > vg > >> things cost these days? > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --00504502cfb088e85704813cf18f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OKAY.. Well Ill dive back in again... its just. well Ive been getting wrist= ache going thru all the patches and not really stopping long enough on any= thing to really find out how its made up...
Im really a knobs man.. and = menus and up down buttons just get to me... I DO like all the suggestions y= ou have made.. and have done a few (I agree with Rainer that the digi disto= rt is awsome) But well I just have to FIND it when I need it...

Im a bit interested HOW you did this changing the delay timing thing Pe= r.. but I guess its difficult to remember when you dont have it now?
Just recently Ive been playing.. hard.. into the loopers with only distort= ion.. and all the airy fairyness of shimmering reverbs and bouncing stereo = delays seems a bit well.. old person.. and I guess Im going thru that mid l= ife thing... just UNloaded Eno form the iPhone and put the Pistols on...
But.. well maybe Ill just have to get my hands dirty and jump in...
=
Thanks guys...

Mark



On= Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
As a formerly Fir= eworX empowered loopist I'd like to post my opinion
on it: It is great! Now, that was the short version. I can't tell
about the presents and everything, since I didn't use them, but where this unit really rocks is if you want something PRE looper to
seriously mutilate sound and rhythm. That's how I used it, MIDI clock sync slaved to the looper but before the looper in the audio signal
chain - and it really excelled in that position. I was able to make
delays that would *seamlessly* change the timing from let's say a
quarter note triplet up to a sixteenth note. This "delay time
morphing" I controlled from a MIDI expression pedal. Guess it's needless to tell how cool it sounds while the sweeping delay time
value passes through all out-of-musical-sync values until it locks in
with a new groove, all while you play rhythmic stuff though the unit.
I used that quite a lot on the album I did with Greek bassist/loopist
Costas Andreou, especially the first track.

Other cool stuff you can do with the FireworX is to make a parallel
signal path where you put a pitch shifter set to any range, I used
mostly octave up or octave down. Then you play through the unit while
modding pitch by a MIDI expression pedal. That's awesome - like
playing two instruments at once, because here and there you find
intervals that sound really cool as a blending by the non pitched and
the pitched signal. A lot more organically sounding that simply
"playing though a fixed pitch shifter". Also used on the Costas a= lbum.

Finally, a very cool trick: Using the envelope follower module to
modulate any other parameter of choice. My fav here is to set up an
"infinite delay loop". That means full feedback, no sound will ev= er
stop. Then you modulate the feedback parameter of the delay module by
the input signal strength, but reversed. This means that if you do not
play anything the sound in the delay line will repeat infinitely
(following the looper tempo, of course) but if you play one note this
note will bring down the feedback as it enters the delay and sort of
"soft substitute" the looping audio.

If you like using these techniques and like having rack mountable
units the FireworX is a box you should get when a chance occurs. I
don't think they make them any more and it doesn't seem probable th= at
more similar products will be produced in the future, many DIY audio
mutilants are going software and crippling the already rather nisched
market.

I don't work for TC. I sold my old FwX only because I needed money in an urgent situation. I had learned how this awesome box works so I
would be able to set up my fav patches in software on future laptop
rigs.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:52 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old cheat of hitting=
> reply... heres a better one
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> After about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we= =B4re not
>> really getting along.. and Im thinking of selling.
>> I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and availa= ble is a
>> bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did w= as give me
>> more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. = Even tho
>> that is why I got it. I bought it in an attempt to remove things f= rom the
>> floor (namely a Space Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weir= d PSU) and
>> it more than made up for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use = is a
>> lovely reverb patch, with just the right amount of compression.. l= ovely...
>> but expensive!!!
>>
>> Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why its s= o
>> great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What = do the vg
>> things cost these days?




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http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--00504502cfb088e85704813cf18f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 22:09:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A1053BE80; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1267999762; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ieU/HSMRLPlgys/yDh6/Zp847vc=; b=q76llLUrjDdnXapiUwtOvLN1srnDZIdJhXmzYASKNTLTziCv6D4jBzzVnZ1oLB9c +6Zq0khBoOuDNiiTq4GQF10oCNPe1R20KnPDORchN7ufarDUQjZqr2p5Cj4/BFqq; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DgdzYwh4UrekMZW4Codkke4g2OAwBMQhCPiRI+Z5awc= c=1 sm=0 a=yC-pdbmml98A:10 a=NwSlgMVuJ3x43CVaiiqhEQ==:17 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=D8u4bNQHfUazr4IedbYA:9 a=pFx8SsTJG1zAUVndIskA:7 a=1BHlFsjh_nEZ7VyM61uAeTl4puEA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=qYjgY5Oee4YA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=bjRf2gj323cA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=cks9Zq6P_9s6NfwsX5EA:9 a=H6wAtSXGToW6L4rdUOcA:7 a=k0sPLTFiWZD0929rsX0Rx9iiGHAA:4 a=d-1ze5jHbJEA:10 a=NwSlgMVuJ3x43CVaiiqhEQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001d01cabe42$d73f9db0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:09:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01CABE18.EE351830" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:09:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CABE18.EE351830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wanna sell the Space station? :) Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old cheat of hitting = reply... heres a better one On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe = wrote: After about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that = we=B4re not really getting along.. and Im thinking of selling. I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and = available is a bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and all = that did was give me more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down and made = my own sounds.. Even tho that is why I got it. I bought it in an attempt = to remove things from the floor (namely a Space Station and the = bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU) and it more than made up for is.. but = actually all I ever seem to use is a lovely reverb patch, with just the = right amount of compression.. lovely... but expensive!!!=20 Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why its so = great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do the = vg things cost these days? Mark --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2728 - Release Date: = 03/07/10 07:34:00 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CABE18.EE351830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
wanna sell the Space station? = :)
 
Jeff
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Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old = cheat of=20 hitting reply... heres a better one

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After=20 about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we=B4re not = really=20 getting along.. and Im thinking of selling.
I dont know, i think = the vast=20 amount of sounds possible and available is a bit too much for me!! I = upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did was give me more and more.. = Ive=20 hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. Even tho that is why I = got it.=20 I bought it in an attempt to remove things from the floor (namely a = Space=20 Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU) and it more than = made up=20 for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a lovely reverb = patch, with=20 just the right amount of compression.. lovely... but expensive!!!=20

Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why = its so=20 great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do = the vg=20 things cost these days?

Mark

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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CABE18.EE351830-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 22:21:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30D043BE91; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=/vdfOrFjkwlCYMT0nW1LCXIvbps75neuD6WywVe0xe0=; b=Fq/izdZUdiuxcOsDOE4OkXS6iSYE9+dSDpL1KCk+o2qYJjCvxAxHVjYhBASnGsBlEK KaOnKHoVcc/FwqP5dpVhqPoInPBbU89Hsj4grtjydaxcNwRoiMiylOol5myWJGpWkp7C QQdel/hRmor4klsQC6RzIdrA9idvJ8Gy+SWG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=oOcwMaaVeUlZyvyTWveHc+aPVrvbF3DDKHdaQ7W9v4R7he/I1nuhMBLfq8oonhXH8O 0bmWQgX/KZp523WzcxqK4Jr1AHMYVo2Y8eo/QE9wNN692+SJabuXN+dpY15QKpqvLUQI DZyMwsY+wClc1U3MeE1YTH829Ol87e1kELWJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001d01cabe42$d73f9db0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> References: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> <001d01cabe42$d73f9db0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:21:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c0c6d47dbf377b76 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003071421t582a3472m3122dde1663eb08a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0b48290480304813d5fcb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:21:45 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0b48290480304813d5fcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable phew no.. its well fucked.. buttons fallen off... but still a prize possesion... keep meaning to fit stomp style buttons... and its half CV modded, (not finished yet) so I can sequence the pedal from an analog sequencer.. so no.. sorry... but i dont blame you for trying!! MArk! On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > wanna sell the Space station? :) > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mark francombe > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:52 PM > *Subject:* Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! > > Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old cheat of hitting > reply... heres a better one > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: > >> After about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we=B4re no= t >> really getting along.. and Im thinking of selling. >> I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and available is= a >> bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did was giv= e me >> more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. Even t= ho >> that is why I got it. I bought it in an attempt to remove things from th= e >> floor (namely a Space Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU)= and >> it more than made up for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a >> lovely reverb patch, with just the right amount of compression.. lovely.= .. >> but expensive!!! >> >> Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why its so >> great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do the= vg >> things cost these days? >> >> Mark >> >> -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2728 - Release Date: 03/07/10 > 07:34:00 > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0b48290480304813d5fcb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable phew no.. its well fucked.. buttons fallen off... but still a prize possesi= on... keep meaning to fit stomp style buttons... and its half CV modded, (n= ot finished yet) so I can sequence the pedal from an analog sequencer..

so no.. sorry... but i dont blame you for trying!!

MArk!



On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Je= ff Duke <jeff= _d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
wanna sell the Space station? :)
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Jeff
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Subject: Im bored of my TC Firewor= x!=20 HELP!

Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old chea= t of=20 hitting reply... heres a better one

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe= <mark@markfrancombe.com>=20 wrote:
After=20 about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we=B4re not rea= lly=20 getting along.. and Im thinking of selling.
I dont know, i think the= vast=20 amount of sounds possible and available is a bit too much for me!! I=20 upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did was give me more and more.. Iv= e=20 hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. Even tho that is why I go= t it.=20 I bought it in an attempt to remove things from the floor (namely a Spa= ce=20 Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU) and it more than mad= e up=20 for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a lovely reverb patch, = with=20 just the right amount of compression.. lovely... but expensive!!!=20

Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why it= s so=20 great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do th= e vg=20 things cost these days?

Mark

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--000e0ce0b48290480304813d5fcb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 22:29:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 126D73BEA0; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ql6BrijlBPu3VD1Wr1jVskdrNDWeg5WHBkQiHSB1oqY=; b=EIKpdfDjdMUGL9pT/uglM9k1DfHUlpqtVF8868BLHdo60n2hFDxN4l5/NROueMYUgS 5/pSWI35317IoizXLNF74nvfdUN/PXUtOh1Jt8TMN4znqnZ0ultb/1np2dyucBhQtsCg DG2CAoNeoM4NethGEEXSeybh9KmCxX0j4Oa7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G5wDTEGKG8FZv0GumKkc3/XTP/mw8a2HNjtkKEeN56gwFkvM1RQSTOfiZBNz/JREvO UsoK0n5QBu+kt27TGwVYFhHWmr25aCQ+mZEFvfbfyV8J5Eqt+mf5IMsaIyC7mqQVB3e4 DJamnjY9ZScraGljgY4puKzsv8hKkDMRf78Rk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003071350s795cee5arc99b6d3f2dbce242@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003071333p6d1ec842n37879bae855c4013@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003071350s795cee5arc99b6d3f2dbce242@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:29:37 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003071429y749f8b9sa9782ccf064658d3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:29:39 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Im a bit interested HOW you did this changing the delay timing thing Per.. > but I guess its difficult to remember when you dont have it now? I checked the PDF manual online and think it was "Modifier Modifier / Link Display". (yes, one of the modifiers is actually named "modifier". How user-un-friendly is that!) Or it might have been the modifier Alpha Mod. Or was it named "Morphine"? ... just UNloaded Eno form the iPhone and put the Pistols > on... Not all bad news! I've never liked Eno's music much compared to the guys he have been teaming up with. I heard quite some "sex pistols" in Jon Hassel's music at first encounter back in the late seventies and never really understood what Eno had to do with it, since he was credited on the early Hassel records. I know better now: that Eno is great "music curator". Just remembered another cool feature in the FireworX BTW, the little built-in step sequencer that can be used to mod any parameter. I used to target filter cutoff from that one. Regarding the CPU power issue, that Rainer mentioned, I never had a problem with that because I found lots of cool stuff to use that box for that worked well within the given power resources. Reverb was something I never used it for, way too CPU consuming. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 22:45:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 564DF3BE90; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary79261268001920501628" Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:45:20 +0100 From: "Nadia Salom" In-Reply-To: <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: the death of the loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/1nW1qX571obdJplbRGMYacgKQ8U1LHYTpU3VG3a IvqC1+NfSpLTaCJ/z/cG9YNaKEqPgnBpYGBQ== X-GMX-UID: 5EXxCphqfW47Tc2WLWdoZUpudmllcsUi X-FuHaFi: 0.66000000000000003,0.67000000000000004 Resent-Message-ID: <-eUgp.A.XXD.FyClLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:45:25 +0000 (UTC) --========GMXBoundary79261268001920501628 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thank you... I am trying... > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:14:09 +0000 > Von: andy butler > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: the death of the loop > > Nadia Salom wrote: > > > simply and eloquently. You allow yourself to be carried away with the > > > And then you realize... it is great to be carried away like this, but > it > > is also rather boring... after a while... A > > > > How does one go about killing a loop? I suppose you've just got to do > it. > > How about an analogy. > > If someone doesn't have much technique on their instrument, > they can learn to play a few things, even wonderful things, > can get carried away...but can't vary the music. > > To create variation with a looping device...learn to play it like you > would an instrument. > > > andy > -- Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 http://www.nirmala07.net GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 --========GMXBoundary79261268001920501628 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you...

I am trying...

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Sun, 07 Mar= 2010 21:14:09 +0000
Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re: the death of = the loop

Nadia Salom wrote:

> simply and eloquently. You a= llow yourself to be carried away with the

> And then you rea= lize... it is great to be carried away like this, but it
> is also= rather boring... after a while... A
>
> How does one go a= bout killing a loop? I suppose you've just got to do it.

How abo= ut an analogy.

If someone doesn't have much technique on their i= nstrument,
they can learn to play a few things, even wonderful things,=
can get carried away...but can't vary the music.

To create= variation with a looping device...learn to play it like you
would an= instrument.


andy



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--========GMXBoundary79261268001920501628-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 22:59:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FC223BE8E; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5drZ06MZLWsW5zI9o0y+nbqqkwbZzgUmKSEOLZherSY=; b=uVZ/sOYNCz5jNBo3YdSx0yMyW2dX/hrur7Kwsuocd+cz5L5vByb4mhryO2bNu/2R3z FcHgOr0FffycH537Vv/t+qhulKqIA7+SzzOUA1lkjeu6I+hRVaIBdg32N5F8Wt3zQ9e8 vJgdF8nCGNQDcZ/lEr49hnb5XIjM2g0oO9tVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FwrwYVoLXq6PedFK+44BTBXX1q9NOCsFWmTZv5gq2b3F5xYyoEcN5uJMywWUTwWaSk cW+NLQlByLC4l0My6V3N6HlF81tmMprvhjA+lyPTqK+EdnxoWwH6AwRxk3u7IAkBWrjZ uSwQNayE00tGEyQEOjF8K9urzKIwm7FtOiNrA= Message-ID: <4B942FEA.6040609@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:59:54 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: [Fwd: My new music laptop: Dell Studio 1747] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:59:57 +0000 (UTC) People following this list and my posts closely will remember that I've been on the lookout for a new music-making computer for about a year, and had already gotten a Dell Studio 17, but was forced to return it because it wouldn't allow you to use it for audio with a latency setting below 64ms...which is not something I am able to work with. In the meantime, Dell had fixed the problem, and also added variants with Clarksfield/Arrandale processors from Intel's Nehalem family (aka Core i7 and Core i5). So when again carefully looking for a computer (and it's a beautiful thing that websites like notebookcheck.de have recently discovered the importance of the so-called "DPC latency" and measure it for their tests), the Studio 17 came up again - more specifically the Studio 1747. And with Dell offering a rebate for direct orders, I got one, for ¤910 (including all the options I decided on, and shipping). Note that there has been (and probably still is) an issue with an underpowered PSU delievered with the laptop by Dell. This will result in the computer being clocked down when accessing both the processor and the GPU fiercly - more on how I dealt with that below. THE BASIC SPECS: With computers, it's the same as with people: the inner values are primarily of importance. In the case of the Studio 1747, it's an Intel Clarksfield CPU (meaning Core I7-720QM as the basic variant, and the faster 820QM and 920XM available as options). Now if you take the processor benchmark results vs. processor prices, the 720QM currently is the mobile processor with the best price/performance ratio, so that was the choice for me. These processors work with a 1066MHz memory bus and DDR3 RAM. Dell fits the computer with 4GB (2 2 GB modules), with 6 or 8 GB available as options. It's safe to say that you rather should not get those options; buying a new pair of 4 GB memory modules and just throwing the factory-installed pair into the trashcan is still considerably cheaper than getting the optional upgrade from dell. The next most important component would be the graphics adaptor: it's an ATI Radeon HD 4650 (768MB graphics memory), and with that should be sufficient even for advanced gaming (not that I care that much). Other components include HD (standard is a 500GB 5400rpm HD, with 2x300GB and 2x500GB pairs as options, but the same that was said about memory goes here - but you have 2 HDD slots, e.g. to use one SSD for low-noise applications), a DVD+-RW drive (Blu-Ray is not available), 1GBit LAN, g WLAN (draft n as an option, as well as bluetooth), lots of graphics connectors, IEE1394 (aka Firewire: 4-pin connector), a simple webcam, JBL 2.1 speakers (which, by laptop standards, are very good) and an eSATA port. Software-wise, the thing comes with Windows 7 64-bit Home premium as standard, with the more advanced OS versions as options (I opted for Professional for the seamlessly integrated Windows XP virtual machine). While the 64bit variants were a bit of an issue with XP for lack of some drivers, this has changed with Windows 7: all the drivers I know of are available as 64bit variants. And obviously, with a minimum RAM of 4GB, 64bit makes a lot of sense). There's also a bunch of stuff like a two-year subscription to McAffee included - a lot of these programs should be deactivated (first booting it up, all those services took up more than 1GB of RAM). The battery pack is according to spec good for 3 hours of operation. While this is not exactly huge, it's sufficient for my personal application (where I only need to gap the bridge between starting the computer and connecting the cable of my rig to the mains), and by making use of the lots of power management options of the Nehalem CPU (and the very bright display), you can extend that if required (and still outperform most Penryn-type computers). HOW IT LOOKS: The thing got a 17'' screen /17,3 to be precise) with a max. resolution of 1600x900. This is the current standard for advanced 17'' laptops, and the display worked fine for me so far under different lighting conditions. There are no connectors on the rear of the case (which I think is outright stupid - with the exception of an USB stick, I can't think of anything which you would prefer to connect on the side to get into your way while working - it's not a problem as my computer sits on top of a Gator G2XU case - btw, it just fits into the computer compartment in this). Things on the left side are (front to back): IEEE1394, memory-card reader (most formats, including xD - I personally use SD/SDHC and xD and it does them all), USB, DVD-drive (slot-in), USB, power and power button. Things on the right side: headphones (2x), microphone, ExpressCard, an odd RF/antenna connector I can't identify, a shared eSATA/USB port, HDMI, D-connector, VGA, LAN and Kensington lock. Apart from the "no connectors on the back" topic mentioned before, I do disapprove of the huge lot of graphics connectors, at the same time only offering 3 USBs (one of them shared with the eSATA): one more connector would've made sense imo (but then, a small hub is both cheap and simple to integrate). Apropos looks: while you have a choice of different case coulors (I went with the standard black one), the area around they keyboard is light grey and there's a Dell logo on the back of the screen - need to put some black gaffa over it. Btw, there's a pic on twitpic: http://twitpic.com/13mtu9 HOW IT WORKS: The aforementioned DPC latency is really low: while the old Studio 17 had spikes in the 5us range occuring frequently, thise 1747 stays below 200ns even without optimizing the system. With a typical value of 500ns as a rule-of-thumb "go/nogo" boundary, this works well. Performance-wise, it's heaven obviously: running the same setup I used to run on my old (Yonah T2300-based) computer where I would hit the 80% CPU load quite often only sees me running in the 20% region - and that with a buffer size of 128 (which corresponds to roughly 3ms latency). A big screen can be an advantage, too (and I say that even though I intend to move away from even opening the thing completely, but for e.g. doing mobile recordings this will help a lot), and this one works fine for me. One item I'd like to mention is the touchpad. While I always have seen touchpads as an annoying and weak attempt to provide a mouse replacement for those laptop users, this one (by Synaptics or something) really works well. This has to do with its lowlevel driver, which not only allows you to adjust response curves for pressure sensitivity and movement speed, but also implements those touchpad gestures on low-level, so the two-finger (scroll, zoom) and three-finger (rotate, drag) options do - to my surprise - work really well. SUMMARY: So far, I'm really content with the thing: even though there's some small details you could argue about, the price/performance ratio is outstanding when comparing it to the competing devices (for some comparable offers, see here http://bit.ly/9ikPhF): comparable offers are at least ¤1000, most of the time above ¤1200. It seems to work well in the music department, and would also make a nice companion for mobile gaming (or video editing, if you're into that). Even though Dell has a bad rep (and see the annex for another story about how they always manage to go wrong), for me this works fine and gives me some potential even for future more complex applications I'm planning on. Rainer ANNEX: The Story of the Power Supply. Following their tradition, Dell had some BIOS and hardware issues with the Studio 1747 (http://bit.ly/bQBOVg for a German-language summary). While most of them have been fixed with a BIOS update, the PSU topic hasn't: The computer is shipped with a 90W PSU, which is underpowered for some peak current surges of the computer. These do only happen when both hitting the CPU and the GPU hard and at the same time having the battery in the device. While in the old BIOS version this could fry the PSU (and Dell would send out a 130W PSU upon request), the new BIOS version clocks down the CPU in those cases - not something you want to happen. I had talked to the sales clerk when ordering the thing and got a confirmation that I could receive the 130W PSU upon request when it showed that the problem surfaced in my application. It still took me two phone calls (being forwarded about 10 times each, but at least it was on their bill) and clever use of the words "violation of competition regulation", "breach of contract", "legal representation" and "that international project", and an escalation to senior mgt. on their side to get me the free 130W PSU. With that, I'm a happy customer - I got two PSUs for my laptop - but on the other hand, last time I checked they don't offer that computer anymore on their website. Go figure... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 23:00:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B06D33BEA0; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B94300A.4060309@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:00:26 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Dear Mark, I'd be happy to relieve you of your misery and swap my Boss Fuzz pedal for your TC Fireworks. Just because I"m a bro, bro!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 7 23:08:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0458B3BEC3; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268003284; bh=Hqp8sE/VS1meiDSRF/hfS0cfqvYtX7g/UPAJfb1a4VM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bL5J3481jKjMTDXbpkA4Lrb6qX5Pq7Gw9Yqn/glWzfWqyswwOrttUgQ9+QJWQ2NdwZWMUjDCgH9/abSAo2nQyBIQheRxv5tY12XAFOEvNSBBBrV9ytfjI5ZqJ3k06UdOci/j814gwDWfDgjC/pRZlmLfInPuwLNCSo0FGaI7s/c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=15Zhw4y2IZnWFJ0p2Rv9nF048bzp7dgrRkm6PX5mrktcVKs4Fs+eESqYbCamV3IZcNXr6EwGQjqBA0ag9K8Y06enSaWozS2yMDQr0e9Rh7qdPNsBHROSfzmK0QxU38sfdg4ZY09U1hz6erUxchjLvOElIxMnXWB9UV+bW/C7JFs=; Message-ID: <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wvbY91EVM1mqG45qWjfjps13pReSjPx4LfoNphzZ5gTCopVx0nLPUZprttUUAqGGK15IV_HoHkn5Q1bqb2nQnpocm4gBNlhNqX.Iw.4bNCQAMjuXPAwzEn1.scvLB4kLQQw1JOXDbAfaWGhwfm5ihChQkZG7ubpyqAZK_7FQlGCtAZh0y.iChz8rouPEmYtMhmKE4iAa9hJyWyMgBcwFVoKx3HA21fR0cw_B9Ukn.CkukhY_f_YxeMQdIp1tQTyHVeeuZeBtO7Ubsd9.oLv7aSyzG0TvwAqD X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:08:04 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: the death of the loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1258943406-1268003284=:3526" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:08:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-1258943406-1268003284=:3526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nadia, My tip would be listen to the music postings here from LD members, that has given me some great ideas on how to handle transitions. After a year or so I am getting better at this. But I understand what you said in your original post, it is easy to get lost in the moment of the present loop, then 30-40 minutes later, realize that time has passed you by. (There is no problem with loop meditation!). Have Fun! Eric ________________________________ From: Nadia Salom To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 5:45:20 PM Subject: Re: the death of the loop thank you... I am trying... --0-1258943406-1268003284=:3526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Nadia,

My tip would be listen to the music postings here from LD members, that has given me some great ideas on how to handle transitions. After a year or so I am getting better at this. But I understand what you said in your original post, it is easy to get lost in the moment of the present loop, then 30-40 minutes later, realize that time has passed you by. (There is no problem with loop meditation!).

Have Fun!

Eric

From: Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 5:45:20 PM
Subject: Re: the death of the loop

thank you...

I am trying...

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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
I checked the PDF manual online and think = it was "Modifier Modifier /
Link Display". (yes, one of the modifiers is actually named
"modifier". How user-un-friendly is that!)
=

Hmm.. cant find that... thing is that I cant see how you modulated= delay speed at all, cos on my delays, they dont show up as modifyable... w= ere you "morphing" BETWEEN 2 delay instances.. ( can there be 2) = checking,,, ah yes there can...)

Ive done a bit with the sequencer modifying filter (and ring mod is coo= l) but now Ive been trying to get a convincing Sample and Hold sound out of= the LFO and a filter.. .. I just cant quite get that Hillage sound.. ha ha= !

m



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OF FBI SECURITY SEEKING TO WIRETAP THE INTERNET. Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:56:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20100307175101.C229436EDE3@mail.tshopping.com.tw> To: undisclosed-recipients:; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION(FBI.WASHINGTON DC). WASHINGTON D.C ROOM,7367 J. EDGAR HOOVER FBI BUILDING 935 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, NW WASHINGTON, DC 20535, RE: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION SEEKING TO WIRETAP THE INTERNET. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 01:23:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 518D13BE87; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 01:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1268011411; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=0DJajQrGYXC5XmYlV4kv7zc9Xeo=; b=CC70XtWMD+MtJH/J4dZnn8CUBfNHhGjsmdcZpzZ11eEZ/B7D4rZv2zzHKaGouvb0 2cugP61iu7cM/cK/yrQy//Iq9GvWYHY8TkC3RfZNNgbcUuOFpCd6eqLnLQlK2ohY; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=XxeNGO0Mv7kOdyN761SSJ+Hyp5Kkbg8tyexfuCPRQV8= c=1 sm=0 a=yC-pdbmml98A:10 a=NwSlgMVuJ3x43CVaiiqhEQ==:17 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=qyk2pYupAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=Y8xR5sesAYRheLoyjJcA:9 a=0FHcNL4nKdxtszA-bQIA:7 a=9D7G_E-CGIt3Jhw6E03W1fUK_6UA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=qYjgY5Oee4YA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=bjRf2gj323cA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=zkFCn0_z-qt2btMJEHsA:9 a=IBEMbemf3wlthvpnS6QA:7 a=RUz3hZceI1sVZjX4ANtLp4dHolQA:4 a=d-1ze5jHbJEA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=NwSlgMVuJ3x43CVaiiqhEQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002301cabe5d$f6802670$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9ab0c76f1003071252q6839d8e5jbd43061d64cd3ed6@mail.gmail.com> <001d01cabe42$d73f9db0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:23:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01CABE34.0D674910" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 01:23:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CABE34.0D674910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hehe, worth a shot, rare as hens teeth! No floor space left here anyway! Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! wanna sell the Space station? :) Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old cheat of = hitting reply... heres a better one On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark francombe = wrote: After about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that = we=B4re not really getting along.. and Im thinking of selling. I dont know, i think the vast amount of sounds possible and = available is a bit too much for me!! I upgraded to version 2.0 and all = that did was give me more and more.. Ive hardly EVER sat down and made = my own sounds.. Even tho that is why I got it. I bought it in an attempt = to remove things from the floor (namely a Space Station and the = bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU) and it more than made up for is.. but = actually all I ever seem to use is a lovely reverb patch, with just the = right amount of compression.. lovely... but expensive!!!=20 Unless people here give me some inspirational stories of why its = so great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies anyone?? What do = the vg things cost these days? Mark=20 --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2728 - Release Date: = 03/07/10 07:34:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2728 - Release Date: = 03/07/10 07:34:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CABE34.0D674910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hehe, worth a shot, rare as hens teeth! = No floor=20 space left here anyway!
 
Jeff
 
 
http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff=20 Duke
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 = 5:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC = Fireworx!=20 HELP!

wanna sell the Space station? = :)
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 = 3:52=20 PM
Subject: Im bored of my TC = Fireworx!=20 HELP!

Bugger I forgot to change the subject.. from that old = cheat=20 of hitting reply... heres a better one

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, mark = francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>=20 wrote:
After=20 about 6 months with a TC Fireworx... Im sad to say that we=B4re = not really=20 getting along.. and Im thinking of selling.
I dont know, i = think the=20 vast amount of sounds possible and available is a bit too much for = me!! I=20 upgraded to version 2.0 and all that did was give me more and = more.. Ive=20 hardly EVER sat down and made my own sounds.. Even tho that is why = I got=20 it. I bought it in an attempt to remove things from the floor = (namely a=20 Space Station and the bitrman.. cos of having weird PSU) and it = more than=20 made up for is.. but actually all I ever seem to use is a lovely = reverb=20 patch, with just the right amount of compression.. lovely... but=20 expensive!!!

Unless people here give me some inspirational = stories=20 of why its so great.. Im gonna be open for offers... any swapsies = anyone??=20 What do the vg things cost these days?

Mark=20

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www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
<= A=20 = href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by = AVG -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2728 - = Release=20 Date: 03/07/10 07:34:00


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------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CABE34.0D674910-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 03:46:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AE1B3BE82; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <00A0CAB1-E0F5-492C-AA14-BC9FAB7F0057@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:46:04 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Hey Mark all I can say is dig deeper, and I say that as if I'm saying it to myself, because I've barely scratched the surface. What I've mostly done is take pre existing patches and refined them to my liking. I'm particularly fond of a patch which originated from the factory preset Fireworlds, using a synced two tap delay set to 1/2 note against dotted 1/4 note, with a dual delayed pitch shift set to 1/4 note against dotted 1/8th note, with a reverb and panner also in the chain. The Fireworx is clocked from the Looperlative's first loop. What I especially like is how flexible the expression pedal is. It can multitask many parameter functions and can for instance bring one effect in to the mix as I do with delay at the half way point in the pedals throw and bring in my pitch shifted delay only in the toe down position, at the same time the pedal is ever so slightly increasing the delays regeneration and the reverb mix. My favorite patch is the simplest , delay with reverb and depending on if I'm in stereo or not, panning. but the expression pedal allows me to go from and intimate small hall sound to a huge cavern sound, with long delay and blooming reverb, as a matter of fact I believe it started life as the preset Big Cave. I can't wait to find the time to try some of the tricks you mentioned Per, way cool, as far as it lacking processing power, Rainer, I haven't found that to be an issue as I am more than happy to use fewer effects if the sound quality is happening. I first got to check it out when recording with Erdem in June of 08 and last March. My first impression was that it was able to do everything I wanted to do in the way of effects processing, including a bunch of ways of dynamically controlling those effects, and though certainly not as powerful, it was lighter in weight, shorter in chassis depth and 1/3 the price of the Eclipse. I still feel that way. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 03:50:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 459223BE84; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 349 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:50:18 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_60da2ce3-e481-4d4f-95b0-13fc9825f415_" X-Originating-IP: [68.41.80.161] Reply-To: From: Ryan & Kara To: Subject: New fella Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:44:28 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3C0EDB23-1454-4423-B5A6-A74EC36C7DAC@baymoon.com> References: <3C0EDB23-1454-4423-B5A6-A74EC36C7DAC@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2010 03:44:28.0616 (UTC) FILETIME=[A79D3480:01CABE71] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:50:19 +0000 (UTC) --_60da2ce3-e481-4d4f-95b0-13fc9825f415_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all.. First post. Long time musician=2C percussion and electronic.=20 >From north of Detroit love electronic minmalism=2C hippy rock and church/wo= rship music. I want to get into looping. Could you help me find the right gear? =20 If you think of an old roland groovebox=2C I want a sampler that works like= one. =20 I want to be able to have a midi synced sampler with multiple tracks that I= can record=2C mix and apply fx to in real time. I'd also like to sync a fe= w machines to it. =20 I was looking at the repeater and the looperlative they seem like they can = sample and loop easily. Both very pricey. =20 I was looking at the sp-555 and the korg kaoss3 both look like they can sam= ple well and sync effects well.. but not mutliple chanels. I would love it = if I could turn the mc-307 into a sampler because to mute/unmute and apply = fx to those parts in time is so simple. =20 Do they make such a device and does it cost less than a house? =20 -Ryan=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/= --_60da2ce3-e481-4d4f-95b0-13fc9825f415_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all..
First post.
Long time musician=2C percussion and electronic.
>From north of Detroit love electronic minmalism=2C hippy rock and church/wo= rship music.
I want to get into looping.
Could you help me find the right gear?
 =3B
If you think of an old roland groovebox=2C I want a sampler that works like= one.
 =3B
I want to be able to have a midi synced sampler with multiple tracks that I= can record=2C mix and apply fx to in real time. I'd also like to sync a fe= w machines to it.
 =3B
I was looking at the repeater and the looperlative they seem like they can = sample and loop easily. Both very pricey.
 =3B
I was looking at the sp-555 and the korg kaoss3 both look like they can sam= ple well and sync effects well.. but not mutliple chanels. I would love it = if I could turn the mc-307 into a sampler because to mute/unmute and apply = fx to those parts in time is so simple.
 =3B
Do they make such a device and does it cost less than a house?
 =3B
-Ryan

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Sign up now. = --_60da2ce3-e481-4d4f-95b0-13fc9825f415_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 06:08:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C3AF3BE85; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m2bbij4iYQM9tsLf4ffpo8nEETjKglclIWIPRF1i7zI=; b=HYJG+eLZU4XmGOYiPuql7ttwfLygPsuvcOTSjxr9C4FWJqoL16e5vq4KfVZOXYiMrf u5EWjtsfNUO21FviJEr7XLBUNZh4BeWzdFa3XcR4p4w43lvS8Bo0gWUmBOM8DsPrFepk Vl3V80p89QkBYlCGDOxoINukm5cNGNAZg9PHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hn60YnSBcqjf6oj7yd3P9F5bZsY1tQKVGWGYNonXBFl4fVyW6sdDUR3a0Cx6t7Zp06 TQCpx42JPsbMlAuiH4R8HE4rrW7+nI1cCRf5KLaCgtXRydOIkS8gxnVdiwZRZFQ3bqYQ K+jKlgCRKyV4oYr9rdGHq98Pgh2U6vOQ9icw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B942FEA.6040609@googlemail.com> References: <4B942FEA.6040609@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:08:09 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003072208u5555f168t8fd908d098e387a0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: My new music laptop: Dell Studio 1747] From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450158d7adbd70048143e395 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:08:10 +0000 (UTC) --0050450158d7adbd70048143e395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Rainer, I appreciate the detailed review. I'd had good results with Dells 7 or 8 years ago, but the usb implementation in more recent Dells didn't work well with my Line6 interface, probably due to the Richoh USB chipset. I've got no problems with Windows 7, and at some point I'd like to get a On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > > People following this list and my posts closely will remember that I've > been on the lookout for a new music-making computer for about a year, and > had already gotten a Dell Studio 17, but was forced to return it because = it > wouldn't allow you to use it for audio with a latency setting below > 64ms...which is not something I am able to work with. > In the meantime, Dell had fixed the problem, and also added variants with > Clarksfield/Arrandale processors from Intel's Nehalem family (aka Core i7 > and Core i5). So when again carefully looking for a computer (and it's a > beautiful thing that websites like notebookcheck.de have recently > discovered the importance of the so-called "DPC latency" and measure it f= or > their tests), the Studio 17 came up again - more specifically the Studio > 1747. And with Dell offering a rebate for direct orders, I got one, for = =80910 > (including all the options I decided on, and shipping). > > Note that there has been (and probably still is) an issue with an > underpowered PSU delievered with the laptop by Dell. This will result in = the > computer being clocked down when accessing both the processor and the GPU > fiercly - more on how I dealt with that below. > > THE BASIC SPECS: > With computers, it's the same as with people: the inner values are > primarily of importance. In the case of the Studio 1747, it's an Intel > Clarksfield CPU (meaning Core I7-720QM as the basic variant, and the fast= er > 820QM and 920XM available as options). Now if you take the processor > benchmark results vs. processor prices, the 720QM currently is the mobile > processor with the best price/performance ratio, so that was the choice f= or > me. These processors work with a 1066MHz memory bus and DDR3 RAM. Dell fi= ts > the computer with 4GB (2 2 GB modules), with 6 or 8 GB available as optio= ns. > It's safe to say that you rather should not get those options; buying a n= ew > pair of 4 GB memory modules and just throwing the factory-installed pair > into the trashcan is still considerably cheaper than getting the optional > upgrade from dell. > The next most important component would be the graphics adaptor: it's an > ATI Radeon HD 4650 (768MB graphics memory), and with that should be > sufficient even for advanced gaming (not that I care that much). > > Other components include HD (standard is a 500GB 5400rpm HD, with 2x300GB > and 2x500GB pairs as options, but the same that was said about memory goe= s > here - but you have 2 HDD slots, e.g. to use one SSD for low-noise > applications), a DVD+-RW drive (Blu-Ray is not available), 1GBit LAN, g W= LAN > (draft n as an option, as well as bluetooth), lots of graphics connectors= , > IEE1394 (aka Firewire: 4-pin connector), a simple webcam, JBL 2.1 speaker= s > (which, by laptop standards, are very good) and an eSATA port. > > Software-wise, the thing comes with Windows 7 64-bit Home premium as > standard, with the more advanced OS versions as options (I opted for > Professional for the seamlessly integrated Windows XP virtual machine). > While the 64bit variants were a bit of an issue with XP for lack of some > drivers, this has changed with Windows 7: all the drivers I know of are > available as 64bit variants. And obviously, with a minimum RAM of 4GB, 64= bit > makes a lot of sense). There's also a bunch of stuff like a two-year > subscription to McAffee included - a lot of these programs should be > deactivated (first booting it up, all those services took up more than 1G= B > of RAM). > > The battery pack is according to spec good for 3 hours of operation. Whil= e > this is not exactly huge, it's sufficient for my personal application (wh= ere > I only need to gap the bridge between starting the computer and connectin= g > the cable of my rig to the mains), and by making use of the lots of power > management options of the Nehalem CPU (and the very bright display), you = can > extend that if required (and still outperform most Penryn-type computers)= . > > HOW IT LOOKS: > The thing got a 17'' screen /17,3 to be precise) with a max. resolution o= f > 1600x900. This is the current standard for advanced 17'' laptops, and the > display worked fine for me so far under different lighting conditions. Th= ere > are no connectors on the rear of the case (which I think is outright stup= id > - with the exception of an USB stick, I can't think of anything which you > would prefer to connect on the side to get into your way while working - > it's not a problem as my computer sits on top of a Gator G2XU case - btw,= it > just fits into the computer compartment in this). > Things on the left side are (front to back): IEEE1394, memory-card reader > (most formats, including xD - I personally use SD/SDHC and xD and it does > them all), USB, DVD-drive (slot-in), USB, power and power button. > Things on the right side: headphones (2x), microphone, ExpressCard, an od= d > RF/antenna connector I can't identify, a shared eSATA/USB port, HDMI, > D-connector, VGA, LAN and Kensington lock. > Apart from the "no connectors on the back" topic mentioned before, I do > disapprove of the huge lot of graphics connectors, at the same time only > offering 3 USBs (one of them shared with the eSATA): one more connector > would've made sense imo (but then, a small hub is both cheap and simple t= o > integrate). > > Apropos looks: while you have a choice of different case coulors (I went > with the standard black one), the area around they keyboard is light grey > and there's a Dell logo on the back of the screen - need to put some blac= k > gaffa over it. > > Btw, there's a pic on twitpic: http://twitpic.com/13mtu9 > > HOW IT WORKS: > The aforementioned DPC latency is really low: while the old Studio 17 had > spikes in the 5us range occuring frequently, thise 1747 stays below 200ns > even without optimizing the system. With a typical value of 500ns as a > rule-of-thumb "go/nogo" boundary, this works well. > > Performance-wise, it's heaven obviously: running the same setup I used to > run on my old (Yonah T2300-based) computer where I would hit the 80% CPU > load quite often only sees me running in the 20% region - and that with a > buffer size of 128 (which corresponds to roughly 3ms latency). A big scre= en > can be an advantage, too (and I say that even though I intend to move awa= y > from even opening the thing completely, but for e.g. doing mobile recordi= ngs > this will help a lot), and this one works fine for me. > > One item I'd like to mention is the touchpad. While I always have seen > touchpads as an annoying and weak attempt to provide a mouse replacement = for > those laptop users, this one (by Synaptics or something) really works wel= l. > This has to do with its lowlevel driver, which not only allows you to adj= ust > response curves for pressure sensitivity and movement speed, but also > implements those touchpad gestures on low-level, so the two-finger (scrol= l, > zoom) and three-finger (rotate, drag) options do - to my surprise - work > really well. > > > SUMMARY: > So far, I'm really content with the thing: even though there's some small > details you could argue about, the price/performance ratio is outstanding > when comparing it to the competing devices (for some comparable offers, s= ee > here http://bit.ly/9ikPhF): comparable offers are at least =801000, most = of > the time above =801200. It seems to work well in the music department, an= d > would also make a nice companion for mobile gaming (or video editing, if > you're into that). Even though Dell has a bad rep (and see the annex for > another story about how they always manage to go wrong), for me this work= s > fine and gives me some potential even for future more complex application= s > I'm planning on. > > Rainer > > ANNEX: The Story of the Power Supply. > Following their tradition, Dell had some BIOS and hardware issues with th= e > Studio 1747 (http://bit.ly/bQBOVg for a German-language summary). While > most of them have been fixed with a BIOS update, the PSU topic hasn't: > The computer is shipped with a 90W PSU, which is underpowered for some pe= ak > current surges of the computer. These do only happen when both hitting th= e > CPU and the GPU hard and at the same time having the battery in the devic= e. > While in the old BIOS version this could fry the PSU (and Dell would send > out a 130W PSU upon request), the new BIOS version clocks down the CPU in > those cases - not something you want to happen. > I had talked to the sales clerk when ordering the thing and got a > confirmation that I could receive the 130W PSU upon request when it showe= d > that the problem surfaced in my application. It still took me two phone > calls (being forwarded about 10 times each, but at least it was on their > bill) and clever use of the words "violation of competition regulation", > "breach of contract", "legal representation" and "that international > project", and an escalation to senior mgt. on their side to get me the fr= ee > 130W PSU. With that, I'm a happy customer - I got two PSUs for my laptop = - > but on the other hand, last time I checked they don't offer that computer > anymore on their website. Go figure... > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0050450158d7adbd70048143e395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Rainer, I appreciate the detailed review. I'd had good results w= ith Dells 7 or 8 years ago, but the usb implementation in more recent Dells= didn't work well with my Line6 interface, probably due to the Richoh U= SB chipset. I've got no problems with Windows 7, and at some point I= 9;d like to get a=A0

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Rainer Stras= chill <moi= nsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

People following this list and my posts closely will remember that I've= been on the lookout for a new music-making computer for about a year, and = had already gotten a Dell Studio 17, but was forced to return it because it= wouldn't allow you to use it for audio with a latency setting below 64= ms...which is not something I am able to work with.
In the meantime, Dell had fixed the problem, and also added variants with C= larksfield/Arrandale processors from Intel's Nehalem family (aka Core i= 7 and Core i5). So when again carefully looking for a computer (and it'= s a beautiful thing that websites like notebookcheck.de have recently discovered the importa= nce of the so-called "DPC latency" and measure it for their tests= ), the Studio 17 came up again - more specifically the Studio 1747. And wit= h Dell offering a rebate for direct orders, I got one, for =80910 (includin= g all the options I decided on, and shipping).

Note that there has been (and probably still is) an issue with an underpowe= red PSU delievered with the laptop by Dell. This will result in the compute= r being clocked down when accessing both the processor and the GPU fiercly = - more on how I dealt with that below.

THE BASIC SPECS:
With computers, it's the same as with people: the inner values are prim= arily of importance. In the case of the Studio 1747, it's an Intel Clar= ksfield CPU (meaning Core I7-720QM as the basic variant, and the faster 820= QM and 920XM available as options). Now if you take the processor benchmark= results vs. processor prices, the 720QM currently is the mobile processor = with the best price/performance ratio, so that was the choice for me. These= processors work with a 1066MHz memory bus and DDR3 RAM. Dell fits the comp= uter with 4GB (2 2 GB modules), with 6 or 8 GB available as options. It'= ;s safe to say that you rather should not get those options; buying a new p= air of 4 GB memory modules and just throwing the factory-installed pair int= o the trashcan is still considerably cheaper than getting the optional upgr= ade from dell.
The next most important component would be the graphics adaptor: it's a= n ATI Radeon HD 4650 (768MB graphics memory), and with that should be suffi= cient even for advanced gaming (not that I care that much).

Other components include HD (standard is a 500GB 5400rpm HD, with 2x300GB a= nd 2x500GB pairs as options, but the same that was said about memory goes h= ere - but you have 2 HDD slots, e.g. to use one SSD for low-noise applicati= ons), a DVD+-RW drive (Blu-Ray is not available), 1GBit LAN, g WLAN (draft = n as an option, as well as bluetooth), lots of graphics connectors, IEE1394= (aka Firewire: 4-pin connector), a simple webcam, JBL 2.1 speakers (which,= by laptop standards, are very good) and an eSATA port.

Software-wise, the thing comes with Windows 7 64-bit Home premium as standa= rd, with the more advanced OS versions as options (I opted for Professional= for the seamlessly integrated Windows XP virtual machine). While the 64bit= variants were a bit of an issue with XP for lack of some drivers, this has= changed with Windows 7: all the drivers I know of are available as 64bit v= ariants. And obviously, with a minimum RAM of 4GB, 64bit makes a lot of sen= se). There's also a bunch of stuff like a two-year subscription to McAf= fee included - a lot of these programs should be deactivated (first booting= it up, all those services took up more than 1GB of RAM).

The battery pack is according to spec good for 3 hours of operation. While = this is not exactly huge, it's sufficient for my personal application (= where I only need to gap the bridge between starting the computer and conne= cting the cable of my rig to the mains), and by making use of the lots of p= ower management options of the Nehalem CPU (and the very bright display), y= ou can extend that if required (and still outperform most Penryn-type compu= ters).

HOW IT LOOKS:
The thing got a 17'' screen /17,3 to be precise) with a max. resolu= tion of 1600x900. This is the current standard for advanced 17'' la= ptops, and the display worked fine for me so far under different lighting c= onditions. There are no connectors on the rear of the case (which I think i= s outright stupid - with the exception of an USB stick, I can't think o= f anything which you would prefer to connect on the side to get into your w= ay while working - it's not a problem as my computer sits on top of a G= ator G2XU case - btw, it just fits into the computer compartment in this).<= br> Things on the left side are (front to back): IEEE1394, memory-card reader (= most formats, including xD - I personally use SD/SDHC and xD and it does th= em all), USB, DVD-drive (slot-in), USB, power and power button.
Things on the right side: headphones (2x), microphone, ExpressCard, an odd = RF/antenna connector I can't identify, a shared eSATA/USB port, HDMI, D= -connector, VGA, LAN and Kensington lock.
Apart from the "no connectors on the back" topic mentioned before= , I do disapprove of the huge lot of graphics connectors, at the same time = only offering 3 USBs (one of them shared with the eSATA): one more connecto= r would've made sense imo (but then, a small hub is both cheap and simp= le to integrate).

Apropos looks: while you have a choice of different case coulors (I went wi= th the standard black one), the area around they keyboard is light grey and= there's a Dell logo on the back of the screen - need to put some black= gaffa over it.

Btw, there's a pic on twitpic: http://twitpic.com/13mtu9

HOW IT WORKS:
The aforementioned DPC latency is really low: while the old Studio 17 had s= pikes in the 5us range occuring frequently, thise 1747 stays below 200ns ev= en without optimizing the system. With a typical value of 500ns as a rule-o= f-thumb "go/nogo" boundary, this works well.

Performance-wise, it's heaven obviously: running the same setup I used = to run on my old (Yonah T2300-based) computer where I would hit the 80% CPU= load quite often only sees me running in the 20% region - and that with a = buffer size of 128 (which corresponds to roughly 3ms latency). A big screen= can be an advantage, too (and I say that even though I intend to move away= from even opening the thing completely, but for e.g. doing mobile recordin= gs this will help a lot), and this one works fine for me.

One item I'd like to mention is the touchpad. While I always have seen = touchpads as an annoying and weak attempt to provide a mouse replacement fo= r those laptop users, this one (by Synaptics or something) really works wel= l. This has to do with its lowlevel driver, which not only allows you to ad= just response curves for pressure sensitivity and movement speed, but also = implements those touchpad gestures on low-level, so the two-finger (scroll,= zoom) and three-finger (rotate, drag) options do - to my surprise - work r= eally well.


SUMMARY:
So far, I'm really content with the thing: even though there's some= small details you could argue about, the price/performance ratio is outsta= nding when comparing it to the competing devices (for some comparable offer= s, see here http://bit.l= y/9ikPhF): comparable offers are at least =801000, most of the time abo= ve =801200. It seems to work well in the music department, and would also m= ake a nice companion for mobile gaming (or video editing, if you're int= o that). Even though Dell has a bad rep (and see the annex for another stor= y about how they always manage to go wrong), for me this works fine and giv= es me some potential even for future more complex applications I'm plan= ning on.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

ANNEX: The Story of the Power Supply.
Following their tradition, Dell had some BIOS and hardware issues with the = Studio 1747 (http://bit.= ly/bQBOVg for a German-language summary). While most of them have been = fixed with a BIOS update, the PSU topic hasn't:
The computer is shipped with a 90W PSU, which is underpowered for some peak= current surges of the computer. These do only happen when both hitting the= CPU and the GPU hard and at the same time having the battery in the device= . While in the old BIOS version this could fry the PSU (and Dell would send= out a 130W PSU upon request), the new BIOS version clocks down the CPU in = those cases - not something you want to happen.
I had talked to the sales clerk when ordering the thing and got a confirmat= ion that I could receive the 130W PSU upon request when it showed that the = problem surfaced in my application. It still took me two phone calls (being= forwarded about 10 times each, but at least it was on their bill) and clev= er use of the words "violation of competition regulation", "= breach of contract", "legal representation" and "that i= nternational project", and an escalation to senior mgt. on their side = to get me the free 130W PSU. With that, I'm a happy customer - I got tw= o PSUs for my laptop - but on the other hand, last time I checked they don&= #39;t offer that computer anymore on their website. Go figure...

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--0050450158d7adbd70048143e395-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 06:09:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04F4E3BE85; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DPBNw+DosQkWnYhQ1hFeH8wUA788NYbctSzL1zU5gk4=; b=Vl1wKSMy5iEBmKVUugTtid9OTIgwWyHQppvhlGlHyO0XDeFrr7wJLViHySOSv62SNn EX6Hyaj6jQxJwAHjfgEuxTkDtYaLmL8HK+MDlY7laHtmCEwkK//YlvmenMQsA/8djxSS 0kYrXMB4E2cfJiDuzzcuyqIXb7sG6wW8bL/H4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M6F2ZF5dbFvg3ILzxeKfLi8/DwHEDfH/7crdYyWxBX6igkve4ariqblbmN1PBZ2opY nDW7jmCc48FsHumUsZVtmn+CWX0W6v0BjYaJBjJ2+3SBCwWoBKSUKVLdrbTdWAAbyRxu xafeCZMACD+mKLsNkjN39sIf5tf7iAhrbZ1KI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d1003072208u5555f168t8fd908d098e387a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B942FEA.6040609@googlemail.com> <588ce11d1003072208u5555f168t8fd908d098e387a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:09:23 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003072209t770233b3p2c924babe871af65@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: My new music laptop: Dell Studio 1747] From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b148d918c7b5048143e836 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:09:25 +0000 (UTC) --001636b148d918c7b5048143e836 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Umm, not sure why that message went out before it was complete. Anyway, thanks again! On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Thanks Rainer, I appreciate the detailed review. I'd had good results wit= h > Dells 7 or 8 years ago, but the usb implementation in more recent Dells > didn't work well with my Line6 interface, probably due to the Richoh USB > chipset. I've got no problems with Windows 7, and at some point I'd like = to > get a > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Rainer Straschill < > moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> People following this list and my posts closely will remember that I've >> been on the lookout for a new music-making computer for about a year, an= d >> had already gotten a Dell Studio 17, but was forced to return it because= it >> wouldn't allow you to use it for audio with a latency setting below >> 64ms...which is not something I am able to work with. >> In the meantime, Dell had fixed the problem, and also added variants wit= h >> Clarksfield/Arrandale processors from Intel's Nehalem family (aka Core i= 7 >> and Core i5). So when again carefully looking for a computer (and it's a >> beautiful thing that websites like notebookcheck.de have recently >> discovered the importance of the so-called "DPC latency" and measure it = for >> their tests), the Studio 17 came up again - more specifically the Studio >> 1747. And with Dell offering a rebate for direct orders, I got one, for = =80910 >> (including all the options I decided on, and shipping). >> >> Note that there has been (and probably still is) an issue with an >> underpowered PSU delievered with the laptop by Dell. This will result in= the >> computer being clocked down when accessing both the processor and the GP= U >> fiercly - more on how I dealt with that below. >> >> THE BASIC SPECS: >> With computers, it's the same as with people: the inner values are >> primarily of importance. In the case of the Studio 1747, it's an Intel >> Clarksfield CPU (meaning Core I7-720QM as the basic variant, and the fas= ter >> 820QM and 920XM available as options). Now if you take the processor >> benchmark results vs. processor prices, the 720QM currently is the mobil= e >> processor with the best price/performance ratio, so that was the choice = for >> me. These processors work with a 1066MHz memory bus and DDR3 RAM. Dell f= its >> the computer with 4GB (2 2 GB modules), with 6 or 8 GB available as opti= ons. >> It's safe to say that you rather should not get those options; buying a = new >> pair of 4 GB memory modules and just throwing the factory-installed pair >> into the trashcan is still considerably cheaper than getting the optiona= l >> upgrade from dell. >> The next most important component would be the graphics adaptor: it's an >> ATI Radeon HD 4650 (768MB graphics memory), and with that should be >> sufficient even for advanced gaming (not that I care that much). >> >> Other components include HD (standard is a 500GB 5400rpm HD, with 2x300G= B >> and 2x500GB pairs as options, but the same that was said about memory go= es >> here - but you have 2 HDD slots, e.g. to use one SSD for low-noise >> applications), a DVD+-RW drive (Blu-Ray is not available), 1GBit LAN, g = WLAN >> (draft n as an option, as well as bluetooth), lots of graphics connector= s, >> IEE1394 (aka Firewire: 4-pin connector), a simple webcam, JBL 2.1 speake= rs >> (which, by laptop standards, are very good) and an eSATA port. >> >> Software-wise, the thing comes with Windows 7 64-bit Home premium as >> standard, with the more advanced OS versions as options (I opted for >> Professional for the seamlessly integrated Windows XP virtual machine). >> While the 64bit variants were a bit of an issue with XP for lack of some >> drivers, this has changed with Windows 7: all the drivers I know of are >> available as 64bit variants. And obviously, with a minimum RAM of 4GB, 6= 4bit >> makes a lot of sense). There's also a bunch of stuff like a two-year >> subscription to McAffee included - a lot of these programs should be >> deactivated (first booting it up, all those services took up more than 1= GB >> of RAM). >> >> The battery pack is according to spec good for 3 hours of operation. Whi= le >> this is not exactly huge, it's sufficient for my personal application (w= here >> I only need to gap the bridge between starting the computer and connecti= ng >> the cable of my rig to the mains), and by making use of the lots of powe= r >> management options of the Nehalem CPU (and the very bright display), you= can >> extend that if required (and still outperform most Penryn-type computers= ). >> >> HOW IT LOOKS: >> The thing got a 17'' screen /17,3 to be precise) with a max. resolution = of >> 1600x900. This is the current standard for advanced 17'' laptops, and th= e >> display worked fine for me so far under different lighting conditions. T= here >> are no connectors on the rear of the case (which I think is outright stu= pid >> - with the exception of an USB stick, I can't think of anything which yo= u >> would prefer to connect on the side to get into your way while working - >> it's not a problem as my computer sits on top of a Gator G2XU case - btw= , it >> just fits into the computer compartment in this). >> Things on the left side are (front to back): IEEE1394, memory-card reade= r >> (most formats, including xD - I personally use SD/SDHC and xD and it doe= s >> them all), USB, DVD-drive (slot-in), USB, power and power button. >> Things on the right side: headphones (2x), microphone, ExpressCard, an o= dd >> RF/antenna connector I can't identify, a shared eSATA/USB port, HDMI, >> D-connector, VGA, LAN and Kensington lock. >> Apart from the "no connectors on the back" topic mentioned before, I do >> disapprove of the huge lot of graphics connectors, at the same time only >> offering 3 USBs (one of them shared with the eSATA): one more connector >> would've made sense imo (but then, a small hub is both cheap and simple = to >> integrate). >> >> Apropos looks: while you have a choice of different case coulors (I went >> with the standard black one), the area around they keyboard is light gre= y >> and there's a Dell logo on the back of the screen - need to put some bla= ck >> gaffa over it. >> >> Btw, there's a pic on twitpic: http://twitpic.com/13mtu9 >> >> HOW IT WORKS: >> The aforementioned DPC latency is really low: while the old Studio 17 ha= d >> spikes in the 5us range occuring frequently, thise 1747 stays below 200n= s >> even without optimizing the system. With a typical value of 500ns as a >> rule-of-thumb "go/nogo" boundary, this works well. >> >> Performance-wise, it's heaven obviously: running the same setup I used t= o >> run on my old (Yonah T2300-based) computer where I would hit the 80% CPU >> load quite often only sees me running in the 20% region - and that with = a >> buffer size of 128 (which corresponds to roughly 3ms latency). A big scr= een >> can be an advantage, too (and I say that even though I intend to move aw= ay >> from even opening the thing completely, but for e.g. doing mobile record= ings >> this will help a lot), and this one works fine for me. >> >> One item I'd like to mention is the touchpad. While I always have seen >> touchpads as an annoying and weak attempt to provide a mouse replacement= for >> those laptop users, this one (by Synaptics or something) really works we= ll. >> This has to do with its lowlevel driver, which not only allows you to ad= just >> response curves for pressure sensitivity and movement speed, but also >> implements those touchpad gestures on low-level, so the two-finger (scro= ll, >> zoom) and three-finger (rotate, drag) options do - to my surprise - work >> really well. >> >> >> SUMMARY: >> So far, I'm really content with the thing: even though there's some smal= l >> details you could argue about, the price/performance ratio is outstandin= g >> when comparing it to the competing devices (for some comparable offers, = see >> here http://bit.ly/9ikPhF): comparable offers are at least =801000, most= of >> the time above =801200. It seems to work well in the music department, a= nd >> would also make a nice companion for mobile gaming (or video editing, if >> you're into that). Even though Dell has a bad rep (and see the annex for >> another story about how they always manage to go wrong), for me this wor= ks >> fine and gives me some potential even for future more complex applicatio= ns >> I'm planning on. >> >> Rainer >> >> ANNEX: The Story of the Power Supply. >> Following their tradition, Dell had some BIOS and hardware issues with t= he >> Studio 1747 (http://bit.ly/bQBOVg for a German-language summary). While >> most of them have been fixed with a BIOS update, the PSU topic hasn't: >> The computer is shipped with a 90W PSU, which is underpowered for some >> peak current surges of the computer. These do only happen when both hitt= ing >> the CPU and the GPU hard and at the same time having the battery in the >> device. While in the old BIOS version this could fry the PSU (and Dell w= ould >> send out a 130W PSU upon request), the new BIOS version clocks down the = CPU >> in those cases - not something you want to happen. >> I had talked to the sales clerk when ordering the thing and got a >> confirmation that I could receive the 130W PSU upon request when it show= ed >> that the problem surfaced in my application. It still took me two phone >> calls (being forwarded about 10 times each, but at least it was on their >> bill) and clever use of the words "violation of competition regulation", >> "breach of contract", "legal representation" and "that international >> project", and an escalation to senior mgt. on their side to get me the f= ree >> 130W PSU. With that, I'm a happy customer - I got two PSUs for my laptop= - >> but on the other hand, last time I checked they don't offer that compute= r >> anymore on their website. Go figure... >> >> -- >> http://moinlabs.de >> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >> >> > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --001636b148d918c7b5048143e836 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Umm, not sure why that message went out before it was complete. Anyway, tha= nks again!

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:08 P= M, Art Simon <sima= rt@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Rainer, I = appreciate the detailed review. I'd had good results with Dells 7 or 8 = years ago, but the usb implementation in more recent Dells didn't work = well with my Line6 interface, probably due to the Richoh USB chipset. I'= ;ve got no problems with Windows 7, and at some point I'd like to get a= =A0

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Rainer Stras= chill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

People following this list and my posts closely will remember that I've= been on the lookout for a new music-making computer for about a year, and = had already gotten a Dell Studio 17, but was forced to return it because it= wouldn't allow you to use it for audio with a latency setting below 64= ms...which is not something I am able to work with.
In the meantime, Dell had fixed the problem, and also added variants with C= larksfield/Arrandale processors from Intel's Nehalem family (aka Core i= 7 and Core i5). So when again carefully looking for a computer (and it'= s a beautiful thing that websites like notebookcheck.de have recently discovered the importa= nce of the so-called "DPC latency" and measure it for their tests= ), the Studio 17 came up again - more specifically the Studio 1747. And wit= h Dell offering a rebate for direct orders, I got one, for =80910 (includin= g all the options I decided on, and shipping).

Note that there has been (and probably still is) an issue with an underpowe= red PSU delievered with the laptop by Dell. This will result in the compute= r being clocked down when accessing both the processor and the GPU fiercly = - more on how I dealt with that below.

THE BASIC SPECS:
With computers, it's the same as with people: the inner values are prim= arily of importance. In the case of the Studio 1747, it's an Intel Clar= ksfield CPU (meaning Core I7-720QM as the basic variant, and the faster 820= QM and 920XM available as options). Now if you take the processor benchmark= results vs. processor prices, the 720QM currently is the mobile processor = with the best price/performance ratio, so that was the choice for me. These= processors work with a 1066MHz memory bus and DDR3 RAM. Dell fits the comp= uter with 4GB (2 2 GB modules), with 6 or 8 GB available as options. It'= ;s safe to say that you rather should not get those options; buying a new p= air of 4 GB memory modules and just throwing the factory-installed pair int= o the trashcan is still considerably cheaper than getting the optional upgr= ade from dell.
The next most important component would be the graphics adaptor: it's a= n ATI Radeon HD 4650 (768MB graphics memory), and with that should be suffi= cient even for advanced gaming (not that I care that much).

Other components include HD (standard is a 500GB 5400rpm HD, with 2x300GB a= nd 2x500GB pairs as options, but the same that was said about memory goes h= ere - but you have 2 HDD slots, e.g. to use one SSD for low-noise applicati= ons), a DVD+-RW drive (Blu-Ray is not available), 1GBit LAN, g WLAN (draft = n as an option, as well as bluetooth), lots of graphics connectors, IEE1394= (aka Firewire: 4-pin connector), a simple webcam, JBL 2.1 speakers (which,= by laptop standards, are very good) and an eSATA port.

Software-wise, the thing comes with Windows 7 64-bit Home premium as standa= rd, with the more advanced OS versions as options (I opted for Professional= for the seamlessly integrated Windows XP virtual machine). While the 64bit= variants were a bit of an issue with XP for lack of some drivers, this has= changed with Windows 7: all the drivers I know of are available as 64bit v= ariants. And obviously, with a minimum RAM of 4GB, 64bit makes a lot of sen= se). There's also a bunch of stuff like a two-year subscription to McAf= fee included - a lot of these programs should be deactivated (first booting= it up, all those services took up more than 1GB of RAM).

The battery pack is according to spec good for 3 hours of operation. While = this is not exactly huge, it's sufficient for my personal application (= where I only need to gap the bridge between starting the computer and conne= cting the cable of my rig to the mains), and by making use of the lots of p= ower management options of the Nehalem CPU (and the very bright display), y= ou can extend that if required (and still outperform most Penryn-type compu= ters).

HOW IT LOOKS:
The thing got a 17'' screen /17,3 to be precise) with a max. resolu= tion of 1600x900. This is the current standard for advanced 17'' la= ptops, and the display worked fine for me so far under different lighting c= onditions. There are no connectors on the rear of the case (which I think i= s outright stupid - with the exception of an USB stick, I can't think o= f anything which you would prefer to connect on the side to get into your w= ay while working - it's not a problem as my computer sits on top of a G= ator G2XU case - btw, it just fits into the computer compartment in this).<= br> Things on the left side are (front to back): IEEE1394, memory-card reader (= most formats, including xD - I personally use SD/SDHC and xD and it does th= em all), USB, DVD-drive (slot-in), USB, power and power button.
Things on the right side: headphones (2x), microphone, ExpressCard, an odd = RF/antenna connector I can't identify, a shared eSATA/USB port, HDMI, D= -connector, VGA, LAN and Kensington lock.
Apart from the "no connectors on the back" topic mentioned before= , I do disapprove of the huge lot of graphics connectors, at the same time = only offering 3 USBs (one of them shared with the eSATA): one more connecto= r would've made sense imo (but then, a small hub is both cheap and simp= le to integrate).

Apropos looks: while you have a choice of different case coulors (I went wi= th the standard black one), the area around they keyboard is light grey and= there's a Dell logo on the back of the screen - need to put some black= gaffa over it.

Btw, there's a pic on twitpic: http://twitpic.com/13mtu9

HOW IT WORKS:
The aforementioned DPC latency is really low: while the old Studio 17 had s= pikes in the 5us range occuring frequently, thise 1747 stays below 200ns ev= en without optimizing the system. With a typical value of 500ns as a rule-o= f-thumb "go/nogo" boundary, this works well.

Performance-wise, it's heaven obviously: running the same setup I used = to run on my old (Yonah T2300-based) computer where I would hit the 80% CPU= load quite often only sees me running in the 20% region - and that with a = buffer size of 128 (which corresponds to roughly 3ms latency). A big screen= can be an advantage, too (and I say that even though I intend to move away= from even opening the thing completely, but for e.g. doing mobile recordin= gs this will help a lot), and this one works fine for me.

One item I'd like to mention is the touchpad. While I always have seen = touchpads as an annoying and weak attempt to provide a mouse replacement fo= r those laptop users, this one (by Synaptics or something) really works wel= l. This has to do with its lowlevel driver, which not only allows you to ad= just response curves for pressure sensitivity and movement speed, but also = implements those touchpad gestures on low-level, so the two-finger (scroll,= zoom) and three-finger (rotate, drag) options do - to my surprise - work r= eally well.


SUMMARY:
So far, I'm really content with the thing: even though there's some= small details you could argue about, the price/performance ratio is outsta= nding when comparing it to the competing devices (for some comparable offer= s, see here http://bit.l= y/9ikPhF): comparable offers are at least =801000, most of the time abo= ve =801200. It seems to work well in the music department, and would also m= ake a nice companion for mobile gaming (or video editing, if you're int= o that). Even though Dell has a bad rep (and see the annex for another stor= y about how they always manage to go wrong), for me this works fine and giv= es me some potential even for future more complex applications I'm plan= ning on.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

ANNEX: The Story of the Power Supply.
Following their tradition, Dell had some BIOS and hardware issues with the = Studio 1747 (http://bit.= ly/bQBOVg for a German-language summary). While most of them have been = fixed with a BIOS update, the PSU topic hasn't:
The computer is shipped with a 90W PSU, which is underpowered for some peak= current surges of the computer. These do only happen when both hitting the= CPU and the GPU hard and at the same time having the battery in the device= . While in the old BIOS version this could fry the PSU (and Dell would send= out a 130W PSU upon request), the new BIOS version clocks down the CPU in = those cases - not something you want to happen.
I had talked to the sales clerk when ordering the thing and got a confirmat= ion that I could receive the 130W PSU upon request when it showed that the = problem surfaced in my application. It still took me two phone calls (being= forwarded about 10 times each, but at least it was on their bill) and clev= er use of the words "violation of competition regulation", "= breach of contract", "legal representation" and "that i= nternational project", and an escalation to senior mgt. on their side = to get me the free 130W PSU. With that, I'm a happy customer - I got tw= o PSUs for my laptop - but on the other hand, last time I checked they don&= #39;t offer that computer anymore on their website. Go figure...

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simart@gmail.com
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simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/= artsimon
--001636b148d918c7b5048143e836-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 08:28:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 971123BE88; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:28:41 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18TweMJLCUTSYuWjBshYFSTp7P1DW7iW/C7dadi52 FRUd1PZ5fcq8HFRTfbG8j8FH+CPD1B8m/wWw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: V9j2HwcXbXB+bcxpyTU2jY4iLyUmZcgY X-FuHaFi: 0.81000000000000005 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi Nadia if you want to listen to some excellent live looping examples, here is a great starting point: http://www.youtube.com/livelooping Really good inspiration there, imo. Buzap -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 08:35:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E77A3BE8B; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:35:27 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100308083527.114390@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Any Amplitube 3 early adopters here? (Mainstage) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX198RPsROmx8EJutIlM/uclPzNktTGGQHpfCP5u0vj 3gyZz5F3Gz80UChliUYky1I02z7Zr9rEFvOw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: gMP1L8ZNa0A7f8h0jjAzIo8/Njh6dA5E X-FuHaFi: 0.78000000000000003 Resent-Message-ID: <02tjGB.A.aVG.QbLlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > but I have found no good > solution for such step sequence based effects in Mainstage. can you specify more precisely what you can't do so far with Mainstage? I'd be interested cause my impression was that there is not much I can't do with Mainstage, MidiPipe and intelligent routing. best regards Buzap -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 08:50:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB3D13BE8B; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: the death of the loop Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:48:58 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: the death of the loop thread-index: Acq+mW1xZm6nN+j9SJ+g1RuOOP+YWQAAqoTQ References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> From: "Ace Ovil" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, Does anyone know if the rolls mp128 will work as a controller for an EDP? Thanks, Ace -----Original Message----- From: Buzap Buzap [mailto:buzap@gmx.net]=20 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:29 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop Hi Nadia if you want to listen to some excellent live looping examples, here is a great starting point: http://www.youtube.com/livelooping Really good inspiration there, imo. Buzap --=20 Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 08:52:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A62F13BE8F; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: the death of the loop Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:50:53 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: the death of the loop thread-index: Acq+mW1xZm6nN+j9SJ+g1RuOOP+YWQAAqoTQAAAQghA= References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> From: "Ace Ovil" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Woops. Forgot to change the title on that one.=20 I have been reading the death of the loop discussion avidly though so please forgive me. -----Original Message----- From: Ace Ovil [mailto:aovil@wfubmc.edu]=20 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:49 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: the death of the loop Hi everyone, Does anyone know if the rolls mp128 will work as a controller for an EDP? Thanks, Ace -----Original Message----- From: Buzap Buzap [mailto:buzap@gmx.net]=20 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:29 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop Hi Nadia if you want to listen to some excellent live looping examples, here is a great starting point: http://www.youtube.com/livelooping Really good inspiration there, imo. Buzap --=20 Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 09:11:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B535A3BE93; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:11:14 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100308091114.141430@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Mainstage routing tweaks (was Amplitube3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18CGyI0OQ4CrwlKUMmm6NS4rVFdAFW9NVSBu2Ycjw 5NZKo5fYOtAXF7xbnrJEfBQAUVlOHIuTHJYQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: BYehf3R9RkkNSt1hiGVqWKZudWkvKNOM X-FuHaFi: 0.65000000000000002 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > for example decay > preservation when switching sound patch). Referring to my previous post: Couldn't you do a workaround here in Mainstage? i.e. add a delay/reverb on top level that will be routed briefly (via MidiPipe) during patch switching? Personally, instead of switchting patches in Mainstage, I prefer to have various routing options on top level that I can switch between. When one routing option is "on", the others are "off". I think this shouldn't create CPU load, just RAM for loading samples. best regards Buzap -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 09:36:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10EE63BEA4; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=USaSZKO8iq9UFL4YuQ7o8dPNyCJqMuCe8Mq0mzoimnQ=; b=ssah3fItvt3U/XCtm8D7YOLEr857FPReMr+2kCLpMeVNi7U6TOc01B7rbJEtvfr/qu 8YYVzYi1+kVVqE8OOpyaW3w6S1LoWze4hsNPF3boRudLLpKUKirDcPSfzqOnmrcMQGSU +W2RmepF3ddtx0xVWX5GHe8LOVP3s2ecOGibI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=Hg6otzTvK2ehrfav0905UCb1yerxmsSqi8fr+8XWKXsYLdyG6+bgGtZZkALbDP4u/m yhY5ifvz2I7+hKAEPR1/SbwDPyWeqYonYw4R3UP2G+ejYBo5oJ7w8AWTvfQtp3lYRYg7 Bg+c9gvdj9GpRGB7rCOFeiXNVxugPQ//HrVnM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:36:02 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eb41a6edacb4347d Message-ID: Subject: new gig videos with looping content From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm sure you've all heard me going on about Improvizone before - anyway, we did another gig last week, and the videos are now online: http://www.vimeo.com/album/192116 cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From bppf7@sapo.pt Mon Mar 8 09:39:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:39:16 UTC Received: from relay2.ptmail.sapo.pt (relay2.ptmail.sapo.pt [212.55.154.22]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 157CA3BE89 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6386 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2010 09:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.37.163) by relay2 with SMTP; 8 Mar 2010 09:32:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 543 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2010 09:32:29 -0000 X-AntiVirus: PTMail-AV 0.3-0.95.1 X-Scan-Status: AV clean (0.07304 seconds); AS clean (0.02631 seconds); Received: from unknown (HELO 95.93.99.178) (BPPF7@SAPO.PT@[95.93.99.178]) (envelope-sender ) by mta13 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Mar 2010 09:32:29 -0000 From: "BPPF7@SAPO.PT" To: "looparc" Subject: peticao Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:32:25 +0000 Organization: BPPF7@SAPO.PT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6527E.AE8904D0" Message-Id: <20100308093916.157CA3BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6527E.AE8904D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://www.peticaopublica.com/PeticaoVer.aspx?pi=P2009N481 http://mecenato.sapo.pt/Default.aspx?tabid=318 http://sol.sapo.pt/blogs/bppf1/archive/2009/09/10/O-BEM-ESTAR-DOS-PORTUGUESES-DEPENDE-DA-LUSOFUNIA.aspx A POLITICA PORTUGUESA SOFRE DE UMA PERTURBAĂ‡ĂƒO DENOMINADA DE SIMDROMA DE ESTOCOLMO http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%ADndrome_de_Estocolmo PASSAR LEIS PARA SABOTAR O SISTEMA JUDICIAL NACIONAL DE MANEIRA A OBRIGAR OS PORTUGUESES A ACEITAR A UNIAO EUROPEIA COMO ALGO POSITIVO NĂƒO É SAUDĂVEL PARA OS CIDADĂƒOS PORTUGUESES. http://sol.sapo.pt/PaginaInicial/Sociedade/Interior.aspx?content_id=163681&tab=community ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6527E.AE8904D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6527E.AE8904D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 09:41:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A0B33BEA6; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268041298; bh=pwMRg063wF/qWOhJ50qsFfDaUS4daooUotjliQEh3wo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=r3fmuDAZXTx6l8Zb2iAnBOoGD0FLqmxFEdW6A9gGClEasc1h5MQf1UmQdx09lCxy8sG13o320LOgyHZ/XerZkiC38Q04Xglv/+R14O6deBv4JmdRiV3fU3azzAeR6IfNYB8hUSVgPNeaW/g8ttJ4wPeKH4fiQM5/b1DV8d9rtPQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0EeNcQHRVoQTzhm6439CB7Uyj8GqqmilvvGcBl3ssrvEEPgMgks8QwBEd9RtKOTRvC6dWZDnaSiQAQzc6crOTB6zc0oy+L00CnxUYX4VZZbfg4/IpG+2aWFJqnJ1Gy6ca3imJ9n9CXb+PM9QH5YQ2CNI5/LvJi1iOaeyeUWKlMo=; Message-ID: <130199.976.qm@web29003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rFHjedgVM1lwDbrTAHLi2fFpF2X3Y2q0yVJch270vRlsdDN bk_Q5QZ1c.Qn3GKrITvEsNOhBZeprCNeqxHcOc6l2B5GZ_VVXfr52.q7oOTS 56wp58aCHJSjcPRbRZyj2nQQ.5GLf_AsDRpSAzpB8PODnTecXpNhfwXSLIYS KXrBiLVI1UdPZ7wGy7JKoJx9A9zJeYRK_lh_TA_OXuqlVPAIClmqQZL0PXlr zSmStrc0PeE1DKil6bhk1B8KVNDVs2IY- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:41:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: re:Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3C0EDB23-1454-4423-B5A6-A74EC36C7DAC@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill,i just brought my acoustic steel string and borrowed Sjaaks M13 god= bless his soul,i could not fit a needle im my luggage anymore i had it up = to the weight limit,i was actually lucky that i could get the guitar on the= plane though i Austria they warned me i was going to have to pay x-tra but= luckily didnt.=0A=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Wil= liam Walker schrieb am So, 7.3.2010:=0A=0A> Von: W= illiam Walker =0A> Betreff: re:Antwerp Live Looping= festival 2010=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Sonnt= ag, 7. M=E4rz, 2010 12:24 Uhr=0A> Nice........... do all of the=0A> partici= pants need to be this good looking????? Hey I spotted=0A> some sexy amps, d= id people bring there own amplifiers? What=0A> was the guitar you were play= ing Luis? looking forward to=0A> hearing this.=0A> Bill=0A> =0A> =0A=0A____= ______________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ASie sind = Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen M= assenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 09:48:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 194273BE90; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 359477213/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.216.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.216.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBACZWlEtPRtjf/2dsb2JhbAAH03SEeAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,601,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="359477213" Message-ID: <4B94C7F9.9040002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:48:41 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of A MIDI footcontroller References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:48:43 +0000 (UTC) that's a fairly easy question "A MIDI footcontroller designed to send MIDI program change and MIDI song pointer information on any of the sixteen channels. It also features MIDI sharing and operates via MIDI phantom power, eliminating the need for irritating wall warts." so, no it won't, unless all you want it for is to change edp presets andy Ace Ovil wrote: > Hi everyone, > Does anyone know if the rolls mp128 will work as a controller for an > EDP? > Thanks, > Ace From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 10:16:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 503593BEB9; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268043389; bh=6Aw+y19qacdjWk+6jalJTsTg2gjgXvJYhGiIUuU8xNw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eQ+UwFfSRP3pHoh4Kz4gJKJuVfHiGl2bmP65EoEkkeUYoAv684N4TqSbWUgJiQ62TmqtEz3oDEeAckoY3QtKwKDgQuQAoPCYoL0vg5x7kq6rAKlfRxm5WJQZWQPhddscxUTOiIpalS85SCaDKmtmBBtHTCQHgwLX1SkDt3WaAGY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Rk4sfXOtyxV4fyNl1eMUMrJlbA3mU//l1NldNVWQKM3UQ5oEmZlzD5ugFMdj60iWZEI1pBKmB1/IRe9lYs0ft4TYKbEt7An9cGduIQjXI3Iw4WNOA7p16Sdpe07lEkY+espeE6PdTInEDAnWbgpXbmTToNW5ImnoA1q124/s/dI=; Message-ID: <845124.12200.qm@web29020.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3Yw6DNoVM1kMQmYkLsEsW.TFWZnHrrTQhpG6nxBsFk0olmi 43Se3Ekr9M9Rwf26d_0DPNQ87J6NLWkmaQlKmxn9OxOkkOnIRbVmojTZfKeH 6DT2hMPZY49xLjK4J8jwta3MQYOjEcIphtbNFNGUwQhM5w175urhKWCVBAmh IvdzDPiAFJhApY2ZQ8Lm1Sv3q6KB3huRbnuuxV5JWr0ipJuW7NcX8971zRyn fQyhqoHi8Ugc00Bh_VMBFJUZPef3NiwfJ03uCe09C81Hc X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:16:29 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Antwerp loop fest To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Hey gang i just want to say that the festival in Antwerp was wonderful,grea= t organized as usual Sjaak rocks and it was awesome meeting Ricky,John,Stev= e,and Helmut,every ones set was awesome!=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisang= ulocom=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You Yah= oo!?=0ASie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragende= n Schutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 10:16:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 295033BED6; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CfZ01kL3CuQeqKxYHJrcJMG+58ShaV+P08nrn8f lU4qorA4NDJBfn Message-ID: <4B94CE8C.2010509@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:16:44 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.68000000000000005 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Thank you for the link. My original post was meant to be on a theoetical level as well as a technical, both are very appropriate at this time. My viewpoint is that the technique of using a loop is in it's nature very spectacular and fascinating, so much the music can then become more about this "phenomena" then about the actual content. That is why I have chosen to implement the loop, but cut it... and use a more song-like structure in my music. And I said before it can be a difficult task. I havent been able to find the best way yet for one song imparticular. I am using ableton and am learning as i go along. one question: I am struggling with looper at the moment, because my pedal is causing me problems. I do not know why but sometimes it doesnt start recording, or it starts and then stops again. Normally if I click once than it should it start recording, and if I click a second time it should continue in playback modus. But instead sometimes it is undoing the latest recording and then going into playback. And sometimes it records while the pedal is down and then plays when the pedal is released. I am using a normal pedal that was connected to my e-piano as a sustain pedal....? Is it the wrong type of pedal...? -nadia Am 3/8/10 9:28 AM, schrieb Buzap Buzap: > Hi Nadia > > if you want to listen to some excellent live looping examples, here is a great starting point: > http://www.youtube.com/livelooping > > Really good inspiration there, imo. > Buzap > > -- Nadia Salom http://www.nirmala07.net http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 10:19:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95CAD3BEDF; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268043582; bh=dHcyhyKv0qBB5FAYFIkL6PD/cWmdpNP1IgX6HrJql+4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=35QtxaaiUwZ2C6RPjvLVCrq134W0WOSbVumqCUJq+4GiZN5Rj/jsN3uMGAiDAAEj0uvtNBSEe20Xo4pU/BVCXiXIOvOz07eNmpEFTvSvp0fWKs1+/vsqghMvFxF/YX+R715lTF/sTnq3Io/CttKjLrmdRy0WiVkULLChEYvCQ2Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZMl7w9AxsMGgjFVqP3MfXWW5fbUeJVp5YflDQFUiHp1ASwfzDyd9Q1S2j7VkyaaGDUssM/XEHGBOfgi7usGfg5eg/fIxzWk97VTaBV5yLENnD9B/aBgmq2zQ8op0a0cYUDaYqCkabWqGmZMRYVcXAZtijbNW3p5HxAqJO6wKPw4=; Message-ID: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FE.xyRYVM1lwH7kHjsdu7HqRntS5n.2Ohvq8Lb1Wxax5hYQ 9XhrS.gwD6wk3YmxKdUT4R7rVC9X97TyG_wP.xOTTGCYmXBC7h.6YkYmj2kj mBGWzrxOOYQOqBfKF_bMxnJqIqgkT4Nn8Oya4mZRO38Y3ieQJ94qSqArmqWP kR9QidacEGCQ7l4A_KzYQhtlrtvAg9hbduaUDaUQ17vlx2BRCfgE.AYWSjQk Iz27vdmsdskCF4ihpdKlWQx8DyEH97I7fLqj_6rgwUxyD X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:19:42 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: video software for looping To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:19:43 +0000 (UTC) there was a thread a while a go here about software that could be synced to= music,id be interested specially if the software could somehow sense rhyth= mic pulses and would change grafic or video sequences randomly is there any= thing like that out there?=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A__= ________________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ASie sin= d Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen= Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 10:22:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B3293BEF4; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <72d98a$e6cjou@relay.skynet.be> X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAC9dlEtR9zWW/2dsb2JhbACPD4tBVHS8YwQ X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:22:19 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: microphonics Subject: Re: Antwerp loop fest In-Reply-To: <845124.12200.qm@web29020.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <845124.12200.qm@web29020.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4lqWmB.A.ZDB.k_MlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Thank you, Luis, for mentioning me ;-) But seriously it was a great fest, for every=20 listener something I think from ethnic-influenced=20 to the most coldest but devastating beautiful drones of N. And the turnout was fantastic. Amazing to see how perfect everything= flowed... Dirk. >Hey gang i just want to say that the festival in=20 >Antwerp was wonderful,great organized as usual=20 >Sjaak rocks and it was awesome meeting=20 >Ricky,John,Steve,and Helmut,every ones set was=20 >awesome! cheers www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=20 >__________________________________________________=20 >Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail=20 >verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen=20 >Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics www.microphonics.be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 10:34:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6755F3BF04; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b6b0fbd7-d4ef-43e6-8ce1-8778fa10abc8_" X-Originating-IP: [86.139.137.252] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: video software for looping Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:34:00 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2010 10:33:59.0957 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD464C50:01CABEAA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:34:00 +0000 (UTC) --_b6b0fbd7-d4ef-43e6-8ce1-8778fa10abc8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luis=2C check this page out: http://www.audiovisualizers.com/toolshak/vjprgpix/softmain.htm I've been using resolume vj software=2C (you can control that through midi = sequences) but it's a matter of personal taste and the sort of imagery you = want to project. Great fun though.. there's some tremendous stuff out there peace gareth blugaruda > Date: Mon=2C 8 Mar 2010 10:19:42 +0000 > From: labaloops@yahoo.com > Subject: video software for looping > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > there was a thread a while a go here about software that could be synced = to music=2Cid be interested specially if the software could somehow sense r= hythmic pulses and would change grafic or video sequences randomly is there= anything like that out there? > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Sch= utz gegen Massenmails.=20 > http://mail.yahoo.com=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_b6b0fbd7-d4ef-43e6-8ce1-8778fa10abc8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luis=2C
check this page out:
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I've been using resolume vj software=2C (you c= an control that through midi sequences) but it's a matter of personal taste= and the sort of imagery you want to project. Great fun though.. there's so= me tremendous stuff out there

peace

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Tell us now = --_b6b0fbd7-d4ef-43e6-8ce1-8778fa10abc8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 10:34:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 354803BF10; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=BlH2fBrPOXvOujALdFRSJxBrBkpB2w+4OMw7A2tb0Tg=; b=ZAHBf3Pu5jLrp2zlZvSehC4y8U+fIAkKcFrTGDFthvrAZQfjp3ZCCwFvoaNcMJlyFh 2tl0FavRq1JH0UXyGNMP945Eld2FHD6aIP4vGjT0AeKTyGxesPeNY1M8P5NVszT1jaB9 pRuYuN1SJVcT4WL+/5IwNBwTFfrZX+9tRY3Jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=QGaQkQJY7F4PLLeEiAyLN6tqYzIW3JSZNdXtKn8opxzi8rbdMsuzvqnPQ0d8/wYPX2 S70Q/MQSbA1vxZhIkLuSvdBTt0Z9mDclDgvzLWjj/eH8HhxeJjdbUec+2TH2DmxekB97 d4MsbZ3Lup/OYZEbeVcPy3Si/r4qJL/e/nwK8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:34:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 05dfb92c4a27ec43 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003080234k1b1a878ah993f033129d2df79@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: video software for looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d84818a37b0481479d66 Resent-Message-ID: <_JSljD.A.yZB.GLNlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:34:47 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0d84818a37b0481479d66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are some: I wish that ImX was still being developed as it was a tad unstable.. but despite the weird interface did use alot of this for a while... Synch to audio, midi, midi NOTES if you want.. and all parameters can be modulated (video size, colour, blure, stretch whatever) by the audi level... Its NOT as cool as it sounds however... I think what you are after is what VJs refer to as a video sequencer.. these put series of clips (very small resolution usually) in a n order and then varios things can triger stepping to next clip, usually audio level.. I have tried a few, but they require some work, and are NOT for just sticking int the background and letting them do their stuff... Im still searching for that.. I have a small app in mind that I would like to develop however, but have yet to find the right programmer for the job... I did make some things using Jitter howeevr= , but my trial ran out and I cant afford to do that anymore.. my interests ar= e somewhere else now... But I have always bein intersted in this field... and was somewhat into video synthesizers in the 80=B4s.. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > there was a thread a while a go here about software that could be synced = to > music,id be interested specially if the software could somehow sense > rhythmic pulses and would change grafic or video sequences randomly is th= ere > anything like that out there? > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Sch= utz > gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0d84818a37b0481479d66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are some: I wish that ImX was still being developed as it was a tad u= nstable.. but despite the weird interface did use alot of this for a while.= .. Synch to audio, midi, midi NOTES if you want.. and all parameters can be= modulated (video size, colour, blure, stretch whatever) by the audi level.= .. Its NOT as cool as it sounds however... I think what you are after is wh= at VJs refer to as a video sequencer.. these put series of clips (very smal= l resolution usually) in a n order and then varios things can triger steppi= ng to next clip, usually audio level.. I have tried a few, but they require= some work, and are NOT for just sticking int the background and letting th= em do their stuff... Im still searching for that.. I have a small app in mi= nd that I would like to develop however, but have yet to find the right pro= grammer for the job... I did make some things using Jitter howeevr, but my = trial ran out and I cant afford to do that anymore.. my interests are somew= here else now...

But I have always bein intersted in this field... and was somewhat into= video synthesizers in the 80=B4s..

On M= on, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
there was a threa= d a while a go here about software that could be synced to music,id be inte= rested specially if the software could somehow sense rhythmic pulses and wo= uld change grafic or video sequences randomly is there anything like that o= ut there?
cheers
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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:34 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfranco= mbe.com> wrote:
There are some: I= wish that ImX was still being developed as it was a tad unstable.. but des= pite the weird interface did use alot of this for a while... Synch to audio= , midi, midi NOTES if you want.. and all parameters can be modulated (video= size, colour, blure, stretch whatever) by the audi level... Its NOT as coo= l as it sounds however... I think what you are after is what VJs refer to a= s a video sequencer.. these put series of clips (very small resolution usua= lly) in a n order and then varios things can triger stepping to next clip, = usually audio level.. I have tried a few, but they require some work, and a= re NOT for just sticking int the background and letting them do their stuff= ... Im still searching for that.. I have a small app in mind that I would l= ike to develop however, but have yet to find the right programmer for the j= ob... I did make some things using Jitter howeevr, but my trial ran out and= I cant afford to do that anymore.. my interests are somewhere else now...<= br>
But I have always bein intersted in this field... and was somewhat into= video synthesizers in the 80=B4s..
<= br>
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
there was a threa= d a while a go here about software that could be synced to music,id be inte= rested specially if the software could somehow sense rhythmic pulses and wo= uld change grafic or video sequences randomly is there anything like that o= ut there?
cheers
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--00c09f7d574c9c0dcc048147a469-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 10:37:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57CC33BF1E; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_957997b3-41ed-49a0-9670-e73bcca2ab03_" X-Originating-IP: [86.139.137.252] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: video software for looping Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:37:52 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003080234k1b1a878ah993f033129d2df79@mail.gmail.com> References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com>,<9ab0c76f1003080234k1b1a878ah993f033129d2df79@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2010 10:37:51.0894 (UTC) FILETIME=[67851360:01CABEAB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:37:52 +0000 (UTC) --_957997b3-41ed-49a0-9670-e73bcca2ab03_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resolume has a chaos function that will allow random changes between select= ed sequences=2C various parameters control time=2C clips etc.=20 more peace G B From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Mon=2C 8 Mar 2010 11:34:25 +0100 Subject: Re: video software for looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com There are some: I wish that ImX was still being developed as it was a tad u= nstable.. but despite the weird interface did use alot of this for a while.= .. Synch to audio=2C midi=2C midi NOTES if you want.. and all parameters ca= n be modulated (video size=2C colour=2C blure=2C stretch whatever) by the a= udi level... Its NOT as cool as it sounds however... I think what you are a= fter is what VJs refer to as a video sequencer.. these put series of clips = (very small resolution usually) in a n order and then varios things can tri= ger stepping to next clip=2C usually audio level.. I have tried a few=2C bu= t they require some work=2C and are NOT for just sticking int the backgroun= d and letting them do their stuff... Im still searching for that.. I have a= small app in mind that I would like to develop however=2C but have yet to = find the right programmer for the job... I did make some things using Jitte= r howeevr=2C but my trial ran out and I cant afford to do that anymore.. my= interests are somewhere else now... But I have always bein intersted in this field... and was somewhat into vid= eo synthesizers in the 80=B4s..=20 On Mon=2C Mar 8=2C 2010 at 11:19 AM=2C L.Angulo wrote= : there was a thread a while a go here about software that could be synced to= music=2Cid be interested specially if the software could somehow sense rhy= thmic pulses and would change grafic or video sequences randomly is there a= nything like that out there? cheers www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schut= z gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch =20 _________________________________________________________________ Tell us your greatest=2C weirdest and funniest Hotmail stories http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_957997b3-41ed-49a0-9670-e73bcca2ab03_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resolume has a chaos function that will allow random changes between select= ed sequences=2C various parameters control time=2C clips etc.

more = peace

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Date: Mon=2C 8 Mar 2010 11:34:25 +0100
Subject: Re: video software = for looping
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

There are som= e: I wish that ImX was still being developed as it was a tad unstable.. but= despite the weird interface did use alot of this for a while... Synch to a= udio=2C midi=2C midi NOTES if you want.. and all parameters can be modulate= d (video size=2C colour=2C blure=2C stretch whatever) by the audi level... = Its NOT as cool as it sounds however... I think what you are after is what = VJs refer to as a video sequencer.. these put series of clips (very small r= esolution usually) in a n order and then varios things can triger stepping = to next clip=2C usually audio level.. I have tried a few=2C but they requir= e some work=2C and are NOT for just sticking int the background and letting= them do their stuff... Im still searching for that.. I have a small app in= mind that I would like to develop however=2C but have yet to find the righ= t programmer for the job... I did make some things using Jitter howeevr=2C = but my trial ran out and I cant afford to do that anymore.. my interests ar= e somewhere else now...

But I have always bein intersted in this field... and was somewhat into= video synthesizers in the 80=B4s..

O= n Mon=2C Mar 8=2C 2010 at 11:19 AM=2C L.Angulo <=3Blabaloops@yahoo.com>=3B wro= te:
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We want to hear all your funny=2C exciti= ng and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now = --_957997b3-41ed-49a0-9670-e73bcca2ab03_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 12:07:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 557223BEDD; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1268050070; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=JpZfGwO9Ty+hamDH0b/4H2F5UW0=; b=WyFwFx1GgDefRsByeJDsMnhDFQt96Ah08B4kiKH3WPMXs7i2hb80kbLT6oux3hNQ rbi/NpqzNd6mj+rfD9ynlF3iZXW2jZuk0r7MUsQUL3t1DDsnMrCiayXHRD1o1cqD; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5dcgR5YSBz+z719kAdxN1SvJPuBIwtbBwgQ0S8p66b4= c=1 sm=0 a=NwSlgMVuJ3x43CVaiiqhEQ==:17 a=O5vHpjCaAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=dhGR9gAuAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=hjG5mJvfcG5vWBY4d-oA:9 a=ywq-gOS_rL6M-jSv-CoA:7 a=7-DAHaSKO-vS4P3Ub9l2HFtu-MkA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=cVe89csDna4A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=zWSFQDO9AAAA:8 a=hG1ilDDYAAAA:8 a=zXHzDpX-J0FBSMiXmccA:9 a=uMaMRNx1VP_B0369owUA:7 a=kV35gjXlUwI5bjZaJSbn4l9DvcQA:4 a=dgJYCCSB_DcA:10 a=d-1ze5jHbJEA:10 a=84tsCWNHjc4A:10 a=NwSlgMVuJ3x43CVaiiqhEQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: video software for looping Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:07:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01CABE8E.10099F60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:07:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01CABE8E.10099F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a friend who gets amazing results from this, i have not used it = yet. It is free software. http://aestesis.eu/ j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gareth Whittock=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:34 AM Subject: RE: video software for looping Hi Luis, check this page out: http://www.audiovisualizers.com/toolshak/vjprgpix/softmain.htm I've been using resolume vj software, (you can control that through = midi sequences) but it's a matter of personal taste and the sort of = imagery you want to project. Great fun though.. there's some tremendous = stuff out there peace gareth blugaruda > Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:19:42 +0000 > From: labaloops@yahoo.com > Subject: video software for looping > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > there was a thread a while a go here about software that could be = synced to music,id be interested specially if the software could somehow = sense rhythmic pulses and would change grafic or video sequences = randomly is there anything like that out there? > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen = herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails.=20 > http://mail.yahoo.com=20 >=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2729 - Release Date: = 03/07/10 19:34:00 ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01CABE8E.10099F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a friend who gets amazing results = from this, i=20 have not used it yet. It is free software.
 
http://aestesis.eu/
 
j
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gareth Whittock
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 = 5:34=20 AM
Subject: RE: video software for = looping

Hi Luis,
check this page out:
h= ttp://www.audiovisualizers.com/toolshak/vjprgpix/softmain.htm
I've= =20 been using resolume vj software, (you can control that through midi = sequences)=20 but it's a matter of personal taste and the sort of imagery you want = to=20 project. Great fun though.. there's some tremendous stuff out=20 there

peace

gareth blugaruda



> Date: = Mon, 8=20 Mar 2010 10:19:42 +0000
> From: labaloops@yahoo.com
> = Subject:=20 video software for looping
> To:=20 loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> there was a = thread a=20 while a go here about software that could be synced to music,id be = interested=20 specially if the software could somehow sense rhythmic pulses and = would change=20 grafic or video sequences randomly is there anything like that out=20 there?
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> =
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------=_NextPart_000_006B_01CABE8E.10099F60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 12:27:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D7D83BE93; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xcRa1+Io/AQgPr1veqLeELxCbKvranKajakQq7R1n84=; b=sJ3KvBPEphKsoq85aMuCZLvyjtShbtm/AA0XuVAjC6fABEczgYDJMEgk5HGOewyTWo J3gAmydYXTe0CefPXfNQS1UtUrH7gFbHTsKhD4poM6A+R1eIASbT8v2IFzYKFyMEUeVS 61UZjWKyZGpbhOCfWqAZodk5j5JqPrYId59EU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mhxnJfFpf0dMDPoiYHgKmrcVIGtYd5PiDN8D+Orwh2aXVKqaQ+WUN4yPLAxALbPmXD JmqN+wC8MuXuLk8WI3HH7+5Zln0jSPSC1cVaqIZJ3kTxhVS+/vm7yuM980+XGXRDeP6T zEYZMGTOISTnRYaTHG8pPisXT/ezCTUQwmUek= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:27:02 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003080427xc33e211s6eb35c979727e1c3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: video software for looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8F_HfD.A.OzD.Y0OlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Using iTunes os a dirt simple solution! It does sync to audio. Video clip at http://www.perboysen.com/archives/643 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > there was a thread a while a go here about software that could be synced = to music,id be interested specially if the software could somehow sense rhy= thmic pulses and would change grafic or video sequences randomly is there a= nything like that out there? > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen herausragend= en Schutz gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 12:32:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A2DB3BEE2; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1268051574; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=+NRXxO+B6APB4zWAlmPRfSz2Sxg=; b=OR1cmjyiLWQIcpLvFcVLt6CFDOWnqUP1Sf7eSMphqedSHlWgEjq5dTXD1FkKca2w Zvw7QN/fxK0UP6CGOkSZMBv8KX4Uk26NLouu/YmP7lVQjmhQH+90j0hC6gDSfFYS; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=XxeNGO0Mv7kOdyN761SSJ+Hyp5Kkbg8tyexfuCPRQV8= c=1 sm=0 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=NwSlgMVuJ3x43CVaiiqhEQ==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=zbaN71MloLBU7WJxYfgA:9 a=YxKqldvYOXUlNM2eaSkA:7 a=rZxLp2Bhe1ZPLUlUVLNdfNBUrQ8A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=RyiL-aZl26MA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=NwSlgMVuJ3x43CVaiiqhEQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000f01cabebb$79374eb0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003080427xc33e211s6eb35c979727e1c3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: video software for looping Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:32:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <_scon.A.m_D.25OlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:32:54 +0000 (UTC) So does Winamp for that matter. You can get a third party line in plug in. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:27 AM Subject: Re: video software for looping Using iTunes os a dirt simple solution! It does sync to audio. Video clip at http://www.perboysen.com/archives/643 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > there was a thread a while a go here about software that could be synced > to music,id be interested specially if the software could somehow sense > rhythmic pulses and would change grafic or video sequences randomly is > there anything like that out there? > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2729 - Release Date: 03/07/10 19:34:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 12:38:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE3A13BEE0; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cgdlYsk1epoy+Rk5zTXQoGqdNpFwHUk/FN/3k1jiqXo=; b=ihhhjcIN8rbI7aBe2MxQqqoI0u+ZLeSZg0glP47qiAGrWUSqtN26/LpKIdVe7MhC2j uSWeQqNLngButV89YC9E2yRpYBQ/9k2UrOI5croX60/dALpmIlIyT3QjZaHGSsQCGG0A XSMR/68raTgVvDgeW39tv+7CtXoZ+fzo/WWN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DpvA7v/Nq2cA/ZX9cNvyutE/3lubiIZBE5Vu9g5eMs2yXmPW+CLncGUQJZ24OGyZKt PadWtdPVoIS9GGYWdMNwuD+6AS7eYZy7AQo8cXvZ8C6Qh9wHcLecwLzRcs+fYYyBb2Zs lXPWSqvbjAypTLAGHmzQkHKffSd/5o9/eNXVQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B94CE8C.2010509@gmx.de> References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> <4B94CE8C.2010509@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:38:28 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003080438l275b14b6v22a964b5913b9c37@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:38:29 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Nadia Salom wrote: (Ableton Live, Looper) > Normally if I click once than it should it > start recording, and if I click a second time it should continue in playback > modus. But instead sometimes it is undoing the latest recording and then > going into playback. And sometimes it records while the pedal is down and > then plays when the pedal is released. I am using a normal pedal that was > connected to my e-piano as a sustain pedal....? Is it the wrong type of > pedal...? Sustain pedals can sometimes be analog, i.e. sending an electric pulse. Better would be to use a pedal that sends MIDI. Some MIDI pedals can send many MIDI events at one button press and when that happens it is just random luck if the right event arrives frist to the software. If another event arrives first something else, or nothing, will happen. You can use anything that sends MIDI if kicked, not necessarily a dedicated pedalboard. I have an old MC303 here with buttons big enough to be used as pedals. An old drum machine of any kind would do fine if you can stomp the buttons. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 13:02:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FAA73BEC7; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BdgtMfnE5aqRwxcWfdx3cuhxuo5xyBNpITBoJ0Fnrbk=; b=I6r//dqVLT3VDIQKUJxdAnZW9iVQXR8xCPmqI98W7vmbasiHt5U78MrD9AqLqqxd3Z jwfRKP8Gd/mmmRp0Grh1KTCXLsSexT6gTzyha3I/nme2LhjBvdqZzC+5u0XRW1ddB57f Jwq+IKRFlpEOiTP6Q/99yEsX1ShFh9UJr0GoE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iVte+TNjnekGiuyi4mSdZ8xgMSzcqz790Mj0/gVbUcx3Bao3mvGOklJo6aq+l6HJiG hjknUA/yX6Zgu//HiTxy7Vxo5OYIuF/kKX6h+OJwvWpRFtUajZ6GajHpv2CGGU3wjmKb nJdn3CGf3N96MsGjenlTPln7oU+JIYvghjEE8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100308091114.141430@gmx.net> References: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> <20100308091114.141430@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:02:09 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003080502k6332df2cwd7126dafc424299e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage routing tweaks (was Amplitube3) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:02:16 +0000 (UTC) > Hi Per > >> for example decay >> preservation when switching sound patch). >On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Referring to my previous post: > Couldn't you do a workaround here in Mainstage? i.e. add a delay/reverb on top level that will be routed briefly (via MidiPipe) during patch switching? > Do you mean concert level when you write "top level"? Of course that would be possible (I do that as well) but that is something else that plain patch changing. But the patch audio tail preservation is not the only thing I like better in Bidule. I'm having problems with Mainstage 2 because some mixer functions are hardwired to certain MIDI events (the Roland GM, General MIDI, like track volume, pan, mute, solo). And Mainstage has no option to filter out those events. So you are stuck in a situation where you can not use those events, because if you assign CC#7 to a fitler cut-off all your track levels will also change. And worse: some MIDI gear, like for example the popular Behringer FCB1010, leaks out random MIDI data now and then. And when a Roland GM event is spitted out by accident weird thing that you have not programmed will happen in Mainstage. Bidule does not have this problem because it has no functionality hard-wired to certain MIDI events. Everything in Bidule is user customizable and that's what makes it "gig proof". If you need it, you can set up a total MIDI filter in Bidule that will let through only those events you have programmed to control something. I dare to use Mainstage on stage when not looping and using no MIDI pedals or any other MIDI gear than my EWI. But for looping I'm more happy with Bidule. Looping is great on Mainstage but for that I would need a MIDI pedalboard that speaks clean MIDI ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 13:10:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 656F73BED9; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268053847; bh=vzMx1KZTX/3tX345iSmNJh+T2ywivTV4useNQgyTt/U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=X/XWCM1aaBqFMpU2iTaS5keo0hF6ywYBUxjSNvep4Lb81IVAa6sr5ZyXn+W7X3QTwHoLB6kZ/OrH3HKeRZXPCg+piJl0SCyC+7W/Gzp1dIJSsPycxyX55JERxSkZnxmgkE4u0fGo8ObJPPW2gSdOOXeNKJSYMHktIKaw3njdsaw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=q8tlXPxH+5O861SojHsAgl3EXSe5M+PWCReZjFO5/ERrM4HNYSiiS7Woayq6N3tAcXRKieSk57Q/gpdGL60zZuo8JiKkLgGObfRaJHqBb3YBbCaCeVUZhjRmcOrIdnric96HN20i6EnUJq9Ht7Yqai8R3lPQdW02jXWKis86kJ4=; Message-ID: <227057.63016.qm@web29016.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2JshapIVM1no1QnpgM6E_lTk6DgimdGAIvbSfgpl_QzZcVX e2cyQel0aFlKznGH9EF4RRvsx894QO6wEvSvpGzpcxefrax9QWSxeLpK1j1F r4WHAGfs2NUdHciYLY9_VsLfjgcDfkkg4T0JHSDujMbueZ5D5fEDNCWciShC 8TwM_bmtUH0LLAkxY_UV8w0XPf8JKW.aimvKAQSlslUzDXlq1_Rozzv0mbbW Q.dMdt2hT5i9Sjjrfw.t8kermiJ5ACQuRhGOIBlla6BOj X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:10:46 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Antwerp loop fest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <72d98a$e6cjou@relay.skynet.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:10:48 +0000 (UTC) brother Dirk man no way how ca i forget you amigo!=0Ais just my bad english= i meant it was great meeting these "new" loopers in person,i had already h= ad the pleasure of meeting you last year and the year before in Cologne,so = it was a pleasure seeing you,Ronald and everyone else that was there las ye= ar.=0Aand by the way if anybody in this list has not lisetened to Dirks CDs= "the river of apprearance" yet you are missing something as well as Sjaaks= new release we got drunk on good chilenean wine while we listened to this = CDs truly beautiful man!=0Abig hugs and hope to see you some time again=0Ac= heers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- microphonics schrieb am Mo, 8.3.2010:=0A=0A> Von: microphonics =0A> Betreff: Re: Antwerp loop fest=0A> An: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 8. M=E4rz, 2010 02:22 Uhr=0A>= Thank you, Luis, for mentioning me=0A> ;-)=0A> =0A> But seriously it was a= great fest, for every listener=0A> something I think from ethnic-influence= d to the most coldest=0A> but devastating beautiful drones of N.=0A> And th= e turnout was fantastic.=A0 Amazing to see how=0A> perfect everything flowe= d...=0A> =0A> Dirk.=0A> =0A> =0A> > Hey gang i just want to say that the fe= stival in=0A> Antwerp was wonderful,great organized as usual Sjaak rocks=0A= > and it was awesome meeting Ricky,John,Steve,and Helmut,every=0A> ones set= was awesome! cheers www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> ____________________= ______________________________ Do You=0A> Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo= ! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen=0A> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. = http://mail.yahoo.com=0A> =0A> www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics=0A> www.micro= phonics.be=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A____________________________________________= ______=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ASie sind Spam leid? 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Mail verf=FCgt =FCber = einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 13:13:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB2F93BEF4; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: video software for looping Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:12:55 -0600 References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <-4F3KC.A.ihF.bfPlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:12:59 +0000 (UTC) I like G-Force and Whitecap from www.soundspectrum.com They aren't as full featured as some "vj" software, but they're relatively inexpensive and the visuals sync fairly well. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 13:18:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7453F3BF07; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ES0fh2sWtJaPLoGbVJfz0VE5khxi0g2EMdFARr31yCk=; b=EhvlbQYdOb2o2QYVpWRyAq4GRaGeL8SbWupzIjniNqomyLuOv37PXyVqEvj7+dbsyg EIJ9v+4hwZF5bnhw+rfRgu3emnLfP/meN/XOAaB9bNET2Q20HU4i4g9xtZvT9ckMC8Xc AIs9Tnjn6Ac7hb2ymE4gng2JSvdgqc/HfzY4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t5YsgBO7/o3w003SK8swtbrV0Iek79tcJeWiICpESxujeqtzHWLU1u6pSkuASol8oG 3s6jDxJXSA8L4eZ+HvuJzEzpkjF5WVALm/UAljRGFK8OjHQpFcWdEJRT5WJniOzTbzoD M3XXUHGVAfXBdV27FRcYAsAg1kx5dDFEZTnQ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100308083527.114390@gmx.net> References: <66f9cc1e1003070646u71f6b7f4ic0f5c0daad2cdf17@mail.gmail.com> <20100308083527.114390@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:18:28 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003080518t3aa102afhf3a4674f8a32948f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Any Amplitube 3 early adopters here? (Mainstage) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:18:30 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Per > >> but I have found no good >> solution for such step sequence based effects in Mainstage. > > can you specify more precisely what you can't do so far with Mainstage? > I'd be interested cause my impression was that there is not much I can't do with Mainstage, MidiPipe and intelligent routing. > > best regards > Buzap I wasn't talking about Mainstage but about plugins that contain dynamic step sequencing based effects. We have very few such plugins in Logic/Mainstage. There are LFOs of course, wave table in the ES2, and the pattern sequencer of Ultrabeat. And you could of course put a Tremolo on parallel signal path for "chopping-it-up" sound effects. Amplitube 3 seems as a good compliment because it contains many of these new effects that Mainstage lacks. I'm also interested in A3 because it would provide a good amp sim for rigs you build in Bidule. Not saying that guitar sim software of Mainstage/Logic are not good - the are just as good as A3 - but you can't take those plugins out and run them in Bidule. This was a discussion about Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 13:18:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C24033BF15; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <72d98a$e6f4kq@relay.skynet.be> X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAF+HlEtR9zWW/2dsb2JhbACPD4tEVHS9NQQ X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:18:20 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: microphonics Subject: Re: Antwerp loop fest In-Reply-To: <227057.63016.qm@web29016.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <72d98a$e6cjou@relay.skynet.be> <227057.63016.qm@web29016.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:18:31 +0000 (UTC) No worries, Luis ! No harm done as I know exactly what you mean. But indeed most of all thanks to Ronald for doing=20 an excellent mixing and PA job ! These are the=20 main actors behind a good concert as they bring everything in its right= place. As well gratitude to Sjaak and Ingrid for being=20 great hosts and choosing this beautiful theatre=20 as the playing ground for this fantastic festival. Dirk. >brother Dirk man no way how ca i forget you=20 >amigo! is just my bad english i meant it was=20 >great meeting these "new" loopers in person,i=20 >had already had the pleasure of meeting you last=20 >year and the year before in Cologne,so it was a=20 >pleasure seeing you,Ronald and everyone else=20 >that was there las year. and by the way if=20 >anybody in this list has not lisetened to Dirks=20 >CDs "the river of apprearance" yet you are=20 >missing something as well as Sjaaks new release=20 >we got drunk on good chilenean wine while we=20 >listened to this CDs truly beautiful man! big=20 >hugs and hope to see you some time again cheers=20 >www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- microphonics=20 > schrieb am Mo,=20 >8.3.2010: > Von: microphonics=20 > > Betreff: Re:=20 >Antwerp loop fest > An:=20 >Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum:=20 >Montag, 8. M=E4rz, 2010 02:22 Uhr > Thank you,=20 >Luis, for mentioning me > ;-) > > But seriously=20 >it was a great fest, for every listener >=20 >something I think from ethnic-influenced to the=20 >most coldest > but devastating beautiful drones=20 >of N. > And the turnout was fantastic. Amazing=20 >to see how > perfect everything flowed... > >=20 >Dirk. > > > > Hey gang i just want to say that=20 >the festival in > Antwerp was wonderful,great=20 >organized as usual Sjaak rocks > and it was=20 >awesome meeting Ricky,John,Steve,and=20 >Helmut,every > ones set was awesome! cheers=20 >www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >__________________________________________________=20 >Do You > Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail=20 >verf=FCgt =FCber einen > herausragenden Schutz gegen=20 >Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com > >=20 >www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics >=20 >www.microphonics.be > > >=20 >__________________________________________________=20 >Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail=20 >verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen=20 >Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics www.microphonics.be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 13:48:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 618F93BED0; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a7OVwSzBSIenJijYWHRcGDzNcCU5u6AsgLyj49e1K8E=; b=C3bGplOLjD6A2miYRQ0u8Ax2KavgyaPUleb7WFNQRwzK64M98bOHWURdDSWautf3W+ Yw4Jq3EdiwzwyXOJ5ziXUT6dCQGXnViLdC9FcKQb5GTQJnh190CcF8LVbx3PN3ORnXsi 2OIjO8m3NL7dE/ZPCbavQDbj3Co2VhuvfU7z8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OcVUT4vA6K2C1X8dTnRxm63x1dtsUMF5ai8gTFMCx9f8k0nPdeOXz85WJ0r37wNEU0 8cXQDrA5o10DkZQzxekAqUo1b8Cgy8Clp4eI7J8GcbvjXsKN4My5VnfWJb3nCHpGgF2m CBIlkHbQ4P7H9lLGxamFTqOCfGrAoN1w2H6UY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00A0CAB1-E0F5-492C-AA14-BC9FAB7F0057@baymoon.com> References: <00A0CAB1-E0F5-492C-AA14-BC9FAB7F0057@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:48:13 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003080548v7d7cbb96p36f7ff6b2e0e19ee@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <2-geKB.A.z5G.fAQlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:48:15 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, William Walker wrote: > lighter in weight, shorter in chassis depth and 1/3 the price of the > Eclipse ...and it doesn't sound like the Eclipse! Instantly protects you from sounding like "someone playing though an Eclipse" ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 14:01:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BC453BEEC; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/wDy5yx1nwH4/yxCkc96H29teedN8BESbi3IOEPe zzP1FhqwJ/33bo Message-ID: <4B950347.8000602@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:01:43 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop LINE6 FBV EXPRESS USB References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> <4B94CE8C.2010509@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003080438l275b14b6v22a964b5913b9c37@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003080438l275b14b6v22a964b5913b9c37@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010403000502070605060600" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.62,0.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:01:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010403000502070605060600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just asked around and was told it might something to do with the polarity... gosh....havent get anything else I am looking into getting a easy to use more inexpensive midi pedal controller... does anyone have experience with the Line6 FBC Express USB in Ableton??? http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html Am 3/8/10 1:38 PM, schrieb Per Boysen: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Nadia Salom wrote: > (Ableton Live, Looper) > >> Normally if I click once than it should it >> start recording, and if I click a second time it should continue in playback >> modus. But instead sometimes it is undoing the latest recording and then >> going into playback. And sometimes it records while the pedal is down and >> then plays when the pedal is released. I am using a normal pedal that was >> connected to my e-piano as a sustain pedal....? Is it the wrong type of >> pedal...? >> > Sustain pedals can sometimes be analog, i.e. sending an electric > pulse. Better would be to use a pedal that sends MIDI. Some MIDI > pedals can send many MIDI events at one button press and when that > happens it is just random luck if the right event arrives frist to the > software. If another event arrives first something else, or nothing, > will happen. > > You can use anything that sends MIDI if kicked, not necessarily a > dedicated pedalboard. I have an old MC303 here with buttons big > enough to be used as pedals. An old drum machine of any kind would do > fine if you can stomp the buttons. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Nadia Salom http://www.nirmala07.net http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 --------------010403000502070605060600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just asked around and was told it might something to do with the polarity... gosh....havent get anything else

I am looking into getting a easy to use more inexpensive midi pedal controller... does anyone have experience with the Line6 FBC Express USB in Ableton???

http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html





Am 3/8/10 1:38 PM, schrieb Per Boysen: 
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
(Ableton Live, Looper)
  
Normally if I click once than it should it
start recording, and if I click a second time it should continue in playback
modus. But instead sometimes it is undoing the latest recording and then
going into playback. And sometimes it records while the pedal is down and
then plays when the pedal is released. I am using a normal pedal that was
connected to my e-piano as a sustain pedal....? Is it the wrong type of
pedal...?
    
Sustain pedals can sometimes be analog, i.e. sending an electric
pulse. Better would be to use a pedal that sends MIDI. Some MIDI
pedals can send many MIDI events at one button press and when that
happens it is just random luck if the right event arrives frist to the
software. If another event arrives first something else, or nothing,
will happen.

You can use anything that sends MIDI if kicked, not necessarily a
dedicated pedalboard. I have an old MC303 here  with buttons big
enough to be used as pedals. An old drum machine of any kind would do
fine if you can stomp the buttons.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

  


-- 
Nadia Salom
http://www.nirmala07.net
http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07
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The most popular MIDI pedal board is http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCB1010.aspx It has even got its own Wiki now! ;-)) http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Behringer_FCB1010_MIDI_Pedal They typically last for about three years if used intensively. They are heavy and clumsy. But they are inexpensive and can be bought anywhere. 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Regards Prof Dora Nkem Akunyili Minister of Information and Communication Federal Republic of Nigeria From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 14:31:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7518C3BED3; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cEU1qD2aa9nvadme6nHCvDSLTN6zDU42YIYaS6EvGM8=; b=ELbPxdEscEUj1B6k33DVqGp8XDRjKcTwDZTDgyuazRR27r3BdEJC0usGT7SA/E18WX RCnfutO7kB7C0poJ6vhvU/WrR9+tPphpDHa6mO9T12L24DXHiMqIlDzHijsHNb5ohFoF 30C7YOSG1NPfa5rKRfgzxgYOdG/CHgxcr6Ddw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Vdrpe99Hf7pB82Lf/6IvXAcjz2nV7l9/GBaP4c6rgxJBr02UFB6m4l0HgiEYAq42aL 8rgPtVK3mRaA+VXI5+MjLiW9rlPcJQvcvyeOnqtxtoZdDDbqY5wwGQW+wvZZ+PeSFFPY GQYf6JZaD+0UAHxMuCdfHv/K0GT/xvQ9lUiIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003080427xc33e211s6eb35c979727e1c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003080427xc33e211s6eb35c979727e1c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:31:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: video software for looping From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174733f8ae631e04814aeaba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:31:14 +0000 (UTC) --0015174733f8ae631e04814aeaba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per, how do you do that ? fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/3/8 Per Boysen > Using iTunes os a dirt simple solution! It does sync to audio. > Video clip at http://www.perboysen.com/archives/643 > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > there was a thread a while a go here about software that could be > synced to music,id be interested specially if the software could somehow > sense rhythmic pulses and would change grafic or video sequences randomly= is > there anything like that out there? > > cheers > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden S= chutz > gegen Massenmails. > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > --0015174733f8ae631e04814aeaba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Per, how do you do that ?
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fabio
www.eterogeneo.com

<= /div>
2010/3/8 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Using iTunes os a dirt simple so= lution! It does sync to audio.
Video clip at http://www.perboysen.com/archives/= 643

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, L.Angulo <= ;labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>
> there was a thread a while a go here about software = that could be synced to music,id be interested specially if the software co= uld somehow sense rhythmic pulses and would change grafic or video sequence= s randomly is there anything like that out there?
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
> _____________= _____________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Sie si= nd Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz gege= n Massenmails.
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--0015174733f8ae631e04814aeaba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 14:31:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BDB23BF14; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SMzyxxhxCuEy32biUP0aMqNSPh+kIncV4R5Z/mRu3tY=; b=fSc2n/8M4EvuzlZFUGynQ+60UTbEQKrYSgFLd+gC3kK4h6Qs4l5sv+z4fUZxV6COls GmDhvTJ4lUZveVa29+vxlxNnWzFsaMgzFiTv7YjdvP0UmE67+wRbhDNSxTIxBYCcg8Gp p2n3LnF+Y3n5Hn5je7EhxSq6C+B9rr3QNQ1lE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BSExShydjW+6VhTygMhLswGBMBRFqcl/zWshgzP2LIU09BhqPXUHbzQX8bD5j7idGD 7T6HkxFt4Fdj3TJyOrE2s/KH2F3mf1QgyNx6UnUZBMw5F3ig7qufyWfvugqbAJ81AzEI WG/MuVkS2ANQE/UnOx0qLyO+df05fUlYAR0Bs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <445702.288.qm@web29004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:31:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: video software for looping From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e681b9346204814aece4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:31:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7e681b9346204814aece4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable g=FCindous - GNU - gephex [GNU GPL] - OpenTZT [GNU GPL] - Video effector [GNU GPL] - Whorld [GNU GPL] 2010/3/8 Jeff Larson > > I like G-Force and Whitecap from www.soundspectrum.com > > They aren't as full featured as some "vj" software, but they're relativel= y > inexpensive and the visuals sync fairly well. > > Jeff > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d7e681b9346204814aece4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable g=FCindous - GNU



2010/3/8 Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com>

I like G-Force and Whitecap from www.soundspectrum.com

They aren't as full featured as some "vj" software, but they&= #39;re relatively
inexpensive and the visuals sync fairly well.

Jeff




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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m= =E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!,= no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "=


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d7e681b9346204814aece4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 14:48:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9CD33BEBE; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eLVfJCw0bzgYEKXNhIIW7b3IFQv4XZls/HuJ88brVmQ=; b=c5r411zCt3XANRadnWbnVJ/cu4nJRXDJHKgKJzskD4c7CtGCLiPSWfGlBEXWXs03ua qADznGl2IBLYMr6363FnVA+BiaT5+2yxHZWTeXqZp13VNi0LfMRWPoAAJ4x/I5G4Mwo5 Vv2xIKgE6uodbXoSANLQ2+jlFWBQKUy/98L9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M5x++AOjIA4oTDvyt4NKHUnaJR8lVgHqJI19MmhgE1Z4E/H25fwhqE+67esSvNOWSY 0dc1bKwkH570pLseUkzMUpS1rTL9FLq1Y5qAeKRDdQAwmD73tFhxHuhuu8lNKqNuJlY0 bWc440rIbCyU4wRRNy3p65ZTaW4vnIkH8xmgk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:48:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new gig videos with looping content From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325559a926e8c1d04814b284c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:48:33 +0000 (UTC) --000325559a926e8c1d04814b284c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Beautiful improvisations. I'm enjoining listening to it while working fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/3/8 Os > Hi, > > I'm sure you've all heard me going on about Improvizone before - > anyway, we did another gig last week, and the videos are now online: > > http://www.vimeo.com/album/192116 > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > --000325559a926e8c1d04814b284c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beautiful improvisations. I'm enjoining listening to it while work= ing
=A0
fabio


=A0
2010/3/8 Os <os@collective.co.uk>
Hi,

I'm sure you'= ve all heard me going on about Improvizone before -
anyway, we did anoth= er gig last week, and the videos are now online:

http://= www.vimeo.com/album/192116


cheers,
os.

--
os@collective.co.= uk
http://twit= ter.com/expertsleepers
http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
http://www.expert-sleepers.co.= uk/


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Play the music and livelooping in front of the camera and while recording the audio (I simply pressed the Record button in Mainstage to snag the live output). 2. Play back only the audio through iTunes while filming the screen. 3. Chroma Key both videos (iTunes video + gig video) I did the Chroma Key in Final Cut Express 4, but any decent video software would do. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Per, how do you do that ? > > fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > 2010/3/8 Per Boysen >> >> Using iTunes os a dirt simple solution! It does sync to audio. >> Video clip at http://www.perboysen.com/archives/643 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 15:19:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6EC73BEDF; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 567 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:19:53 UTC X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1602447419 Message-ID: <1602447419-1268061025-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-676713711-@bda118.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Reply-To: folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net X-Priority: Normal References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> <4B94CE8C.2010509@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003080438l275b14b6v22a964b5913b9c37@mail.gmail.com> <4B950347.8000602@gmx.de><66f9cc1e1003080618l15a6ddafge89ab5ca94241f4a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003080618l15a6ddafge89ab5ca94241f4a@mail.gmail.com> Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop LINE6 FBV EXPRESS USB From: folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:10:01 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3CXtalQ62R2O0Qg5ZR80kVTOBTXZLApt7e6uuTJvPrw=; b=nNCyVp+2oNTW+WwRgLnSV88k4CJSmuFrDTySxwGqFoxfo2J31gcfDqJkTzT2j5ilsk skb0lsOqHOm9uNXrmlGcOyAJfpjFafK7iSTx+rzCYeN9mndCCP8D7X70FNVJ4reEcGmC pKAmSKgR4sugkFF1TbUGy4QSbbAh5IKbhlFL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b64d3IiXBbCbMJ2w3tEYiwKq5yVi7fhhGaJmWRkuPeWy58CnUDK53P6F0XM9QRCNUr HAM6sfSYN9kCZnzHGGk08kVhB+NTDHhNYMIIagEfH/7ouHdzProY6StsE8SBexaSzIpV 8TjjW6kxVShYfYTyUnxVt85gsDTJFxCkXBKgM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:36:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new gig videos with looping content From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Os, Glad you started Improvizone again...always liked it, great improv music. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 17:21:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A491D3BE90; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Ace Ovil" To: thread-topic: the death of A MIDI footcontroller thread-index: Acq+48q7J0LlqgopSsiRs89Kst6AIw== In-Reply-To: <4B94C7F9.9040002@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Subject: Re: the death of A MIDI footcontroller Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:18:43 -0500 References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> <4B94C7F9.9040002@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:21:31 +0000 (UTC) So what shoud the description say for a controller that will work? Thanks. Ace Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:49 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > that's a fairly easy question > > "A MIDI footcontroller designed to send MIDI program change and MIDI > song pointer information on any of the sixteen channels. It also > features MIDI sharing and operates via MIDI phantom power, > eliminating the need for irritating wall warts." > > so, no it won't, > unless all you want it for is to change edp presets > > andy > > Ace Ovil wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> Does anyone know if the rolls mp128 will work as a controller for an >> EDP? >> Thanks, >> Ace > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 18:00:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F124F3BE8E; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 355948639/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.216.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.216.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBALPJlEtPRtjf/2dsb2JhbAAH10CEeAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,603,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="355948639" Message-ID: <4B953B64.8090302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:01:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of A MIDI footcontroller References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> <4B94C7F9.9040002@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:00:37 +0000 (UTC) 1) Must have programmable switches to either a) send Note-On when switch is pressed, Note-Off when it's released. OR b) send a CC value when pressed, and a CC with data 0 when released 2) Must work without too much latency. 3) Switches should be mechanically easy/fast to press andy Ace Ovil wrote: > So what shoud the description say for a controller that will work? > Thanks. > > > Ace > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:49 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > >> that's a fairly easy question >> >> "A MIDI footcontroller designed to send MIDI program change and MIDI >> song pointer information on any of the sixteen channels. It also >> features MIDI sharing and operates via MIDI phantom power, eliminating >> the need for irritating wall warts." >> >> so, no it won't, >> unless all you want it for is to change edp presets >> >> andy >> >> Ace Ovil wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> Does anyone know if the rolls mp128 will work as a controller for an >>> EDP? >>> Thanks, >>> Ace >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 18:14:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E23303BE8A; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 359775439/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.216.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.216.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBALjNlEtPRtjf/2dsb2JhbAAH1zyEeAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,603,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="359775439" Message-ID: <4B953EA3.70507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:14:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: My new music laptop: Dell Studio 1747] References: <4B942FEA.6040609@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B942FEA.6040609@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5YL8cD.A.EkF.C6TlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > with a buffer size of 128 (which corresponds to roughly 3ms latency). A that's rather optimistic (well, I guess you know that really, but it's perhaps misleading) 128 samples @ 44.1kHz indeed corresponds to 3mS. ...but that's only part of the story. 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Dear Western Union member,

We are sorry to inform you that your Western Union Online Account has been suspended. A high number of failed login attempts have been recorded on your online account. As a security measure we had to temporarily suspend your account.

To restore your account we have attached a form to this email. Please download the form and follow the instructions on your screen.

NOTE: The form needs to be opened in a modern, javascript enabled, browser (ex: Internet Explorer 8, Firefox 3, Safari 3, Opera 9).

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Sincerely, the Western Union security team.



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Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0367D3BE89; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EUR+9YNvl7Y/VJJGOg/hSM/IKCuj9bL1EZiRClgRIj8=; b=SwDbk81ByIHG9XF9ESlmPCwD+mPeBEWmvd27Jbd+4mTLzFg/6n+WTpkvEYm1VccA3y WviCZbfNQZ+AdkCl+D4OmpvXwC25z57z8OKosCaZJghvWHzW8n6yhAaT+0bfGV9eu5rj Oi2hB9+wAbhtmKlVaz5Dyf7xuCnJKcIKTexFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sOy1cOEbjAGuJSf3Wr2jIP1Ft2e5IUox+d7OeFtM+GaLIM6YW+YQ8O4hahrJCqX+ny CIKnpxwObRYQK+d1Gm517Wlm1BMH0fJamKNmw3MfoTImUF013/ZWC2XKSZiM4mkbxGkz UDA+n3dwLpvHnaPYqVF17cvyL581DNuI0wRwM= Message-ID: <4B9541C7.3090103@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:28:23 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: My new music laptop: Dell Studio 1747] References: <4B942FEA.6040609@googlemail.com> <4B953EA3.70507@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B953EA3.70507@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:28:36 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > >> with a buffer size of 128 (which corresponds to roughly 3ms latency). A > > that's rather optimistic (well, I guess you know that really, but > it's perhaps misleading) > > 128 samples @ 44.1kHz indeed corresponds to 3mS. > ...but that's only part of the story. > > Total latency is > A/D conversion + Input Buffer + Output Buffer + D/A conversion. Quoting from an article I wrote some time ago (but which has become unavailable when I moved my website...at least for the time being): "[...], we will further split up the latencies found here: a) the signal is converted by the A/D converters of the audio interface b) the signal is buffered by the audio interface's input drivers c) the signal is processed by the audio application (e.g. an amp simulator) d) the signal is buffered by the audio interface's output drivers e) the signal is converted by the D/A converters of the audio interface Ok, so we normally get a specification by the interface manufacturer which says something like "latency down to 4ms with zero-latency monitoring". So what does that mean -- does that mean that C2 is 4ms and if we only monitor the signal (i.e. leave out the b-d steps) we get zero latency? Certainly not. The latency specified by the interface documentation is only b) and d). So first, what about those converter influences, a) and e)? You normally have a hard time finding out those, even when looking at the data sheets of some really high-class stuff (think Apogee). You might find them if you know the converters which are used and then looking up their specs. What comes out here is something like this: you have several latching delays etc. which are in the ns range (and will not be considered further). Then you get a delay of the digital filter, which is usually specified as a multiple of the inverse sampling clock and comes out in the 0.1ms range (this for 44.1/48kHz sampling rates, less for higher ones). You may or may not have a specification of a pipeline delay, again in the 0.1ms range. But even when summing all those effects, we get something around 0.2-0.3ms in each direction, or half a ms in both ways -- so we won't consider it any further." So I came out with 0.2-0.3ms for the converters, and then @44.1kHz 128/44.1E3=2.9ms -> in total about 3.2ms. And obviously, if you're going in and out, that's 6.4ms. What's more interesting is that your application and any plugins you may be running in-line ("c" above) add to that latency. Rainer ps: If you think the description above is incorrect, please let me know. And pps: This (128ms setting) works only if I do like you also pointed out recently and remove the audio app from the core the audio interface driver uses. Btw, there's a new interface driver out now which supposedly performs way better on Windows7. Perhaps I can get even better than the 128ms (which I easily can accomplish on my Kentsfield-equipped computer using RME HDSP interfaces). -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 18:33:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F16B73BE8A; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OtLifExbm0eMGVndMtVX29OZNcboKECaZ0+eZiNXLa4=; b=vXwoqidGRWjBC7sFFiiHPLavI9Rm1QUS6gLg7NS+Kn/+9/EcOENwQzWV7YvCcgyxC7 e+9pz9dk+cJHVUhue6n2rs+gIyxt0fM5frqSb3VoLoXpaGvzeaUVv2BgJ6xc9CP4uKkX ZaEG0ldJ8ziY9Xayl9HyaNYznW/CLBGBCOyzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PcdIhBKmV62tf+W0pn82qqArGlp9I+4He+9JT0YoOVvj8EI+WbCyrUIAa07Ml0J9Ro n7gaQBuWgKgp3b04flEOkw+fWDX+5YWdAvtXQxF0KNvKQG7iEBwvKoHsqjpA8NCY20q2 4gYMUtSRg7AkQxXAt31JT3QxkjLPIe0FY09V4= Message-ID: <4B9542F8.5040900@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:33:28 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! References: <00A0CAB1-E0F5-492C-AA14-BC9FAB7F0057@baymoon.com> <66f9cc1e1003080548v7d7cbb96p36f7ff6b2e0e19ee@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003080548v7d7cbb96p36f7ff6b2e0e19ee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen schrieb: > ...and it doesn't sound like the Eclipse! > Instantly protects you from sounding like "someone playing though an > Eclipse" ;-) > To me, that's about like telling a metal player that using that fancy small Suhr (or whatever) combo amp instantly protects him from sounding like he was playing through a fully-cranked Marshall stack...I like to sound like Eclipse ;). -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 18:58:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85A003BE8F; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5M4nlKJU852ir/vY4s6LqHw7G5+wHDrjIPEjAOjSl6I=; b=dTwQbqBwMcJBUkAp29I09kyyBvDkMuSqRjyI6fJudUNpa8n6nfYSK6dO48KXIeXw7e A6jrXEXA4DiIehJro829XKIfPjWWvHeddQuI6U9ILOBQGI0U862Ux1DwA3sFvXvMR0uZ OrQPFpurTjcal79KqMDJtZdmJwmx8F29lHKlY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dve5ZJN4751AYq22Bk5O8O4ot0Bw7+9LFwhO599PyxPnrafHoGyLgLXX32Rk7WvdCk plqp8GNzHEvjpOg0Qfy9SM5EUv4l3NawEJZympzzYyE8ux0xRSplCvgwO2VhTgmen7i7 nHrGd4KLxLPrI756aDWuCqKWdgGGpt0OPiz24= Message-ID: <4B9548C9.5090300@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:58:17 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new gig videos with looping content References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5vGDPB.A.jlG.KjUlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Os schrieb: > http://www.vimeo.com/album/192116 > I could go on about how every group playing sitting down and having an Apple logo visible will appear to be super-nerds...or I could just enjoy the music. Btw, for some gearspotting: what are you using, Os? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 19:40:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EA673BE8B; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kYSmgfLLyW+mdhWM1dW590nctRz9AfJyA97LmJ0NplE=; b=u0PA6B1RALiu2XFincn4A7Db7PMZeLeislV6NmWt3f9LxqRUzg6dt7Y8OThaecSay+ 1UMnJBVoEjyXvZBNCfRc/Iogt8WW+cGg8XdFm3qM+7ybtXtsILt74MTz+HaBut1FeWih tJJJ2aEBIcrZfOhWGR+bOPb5A6DxUGlVsjibY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nFZ55JtmlXea6adv+yLLdlD7SwjKaQ5YTPlrvy1WGR4ma6zgqsue+M+TSju4ALXPR7 5bZYT/a+8KV+rvPRzH0zmQxJ7MZilLqHzIPuJNot2bcMUcscw2gq44jEn/9mzBNYmeF/ 9YC44i0Xp927lU2QEVJB1649YGsQK5EOnQ7/U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <4B9548C9.5090300@googlemail.com> References: <4B9548C9.5090300@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:40:16 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0c25efe46522ed0e Message-ID: Subject: Re: new gig videos with looping content From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4k68rC.A.JaH.jKVlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:40:19 +0000 (UTC) > Btw, for some gearspotting: what are you using, Os? thanks for reminding me - I shot this, too: http://vimeo.com/10012314 so, I'm using MacBook Pro, Live, lots of Augustus Loop (!), EWI, Juno 6, Moog MultiPedal, BCR2000, MIO 2882. oh, and a mouse :) cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 19:47:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4879D3BE85; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 527 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:47:27 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_faf21013-fc22-4386-9d3f-d0e1929d21f0_" X-Originating-IP: [151.198.85.18] From: David Grego To: Subject: RE: speak and spells for sale Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:38:38 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2010 19:38:39.0445 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3C47050:01CABEF6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:47:28 +0000 (UTC) --_faf21013-fc22-4386-9d3f-d0e1929d21f0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have they been 'altered' yet? Do ya still have 'em? How many total....5? T= hanks =20 From: sambacomet@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: speak and spells for sale Date: Thu=2C 4 Mar 2010 02:08:34 -0800 I have 2 speak and spells 1 math and spell 1 speak and learn=2C and 1 talki= ng teacher ready for bending. Make me an offer =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/= --_faf21013-fc22-4386-9d3f-d0e1929d21f0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have they been 'altered' yet? Do ya still have 'em? How many total....5?&nb= sp=3B Thanks
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From: sambacomet@hotmail.com
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I have 2 speak and spells 1 math and spell 1 speak and learn=2C and 1 talki= ng teacher
ready for bending. Make me an offer

Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.<= /body> = --_faf21013-fc22-4386-9d3f-d0e1929d21f0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 20:59:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 659F53BE8C; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Z+BHsuIPRNY8LxAGIZyfOY3H2sYkckye+vguEiI+w0I=; b=vYjqUpTU7CwSeQKG/zmmrRIarh38qS12chxzfUHe1c8L3inlWAvn7nmrmos7gNeyWx bq6uYYWmpcUe4vtJhkq3DpIopm4bBkBRReA/+2upgqyopnyezxJTR5r3OpBl70lERN1I 9XAj2d0pvonOiymjtQ5Qtff0JvpMoR1pBSgDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=svL+fYvKGyQpSHwSDgqBd3zTkjn3Z5+8ZjLzWlwU6KUf6vklvh7GnJZ0jV9NeeNYB+ WEy5/9Xd0tMQq8R8X9DbUj3AGajI7Py0a2kdNF3mksOpxsulkGBv1vBc+2JMwvxwX40o fcTr/+YJ+R7lYJHU7Gh1wpfOz5+lVu6rwBdGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4B9542F8.5040900@googlemail.com> References: <00A0CAB1-E0F5-492C-AA14-BC9FAB7F0057@baymoon.com> <66f9cc1e1003080548v7d7cbb96p36f7ff6b2e0e19ee@mail.gmail.com> <4B9542F8.5040900@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:59:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b89a885f78b92ef8 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003081259q7526da3ejacdb40a60bd7feb7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f8a5549f867ba04815057a9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:59:42 +0000 (UTC) --00c09f8a5549f867ba04815057a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Isnt that Fireworlds (of which Bill spoke) patch a bit Eclipsish.. twack some feedback delay around a pitch shifter. Et Voila! Eclipse! ( Mind you, what do I know..? when I hear a chord played thru a shitty fuzz box I think UGH!!! .. Marshal stack!) On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Per Boysen schrieb: > > ...and it doesn't sound like the Eclipse! >> Instantly protects you from sounding like "someone playing though an >> Eclipse" ;-) >> >> > To me, that's about like telling a metal player that using that fancy small > Suhr (or whatever) combo amp instantly protects him from sounding like he > was playing through a fully-cranked Marshall stack...I like to sound like > Eclipse ;). > > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00c09f8a5549f867ba04815057a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Isnt that Fireworlds (of which Bill spoke) patch a bit Eclipsish.. twack so= me feedback delay around a pitch shifter. Et Voila! Eclipse! ( Mind you, wh= at do I know..?=A0 when I hear a chord played thru a shitty fuzz box I thin= k UGH!!! .. Marshal stack!)

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Rainer Stras= chill <moi= nsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Per Boysen schrieb:

...and it doesn't sound like the Eclipse!
Instantly protects you from sounding like "someone playing though an Eclipse" ;-)
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To me, that's about like telling a metal player that using that fancy s= mall Suhr (or whatever) combo amp instantly protects him from sounding like= he was playing through a fully-cranked Marshall stack...I like to sound li= ke Eclipse =A0;).



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--00c09f8a5549f867ba04815057a9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 21:08:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D6493BE88; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NpKc6Q5VIzF6vIDROsiPs+8ePFYJ2xzFm3+R5XYAlsQ=; b=F7A7Cfv6PsvhsHx07AMDh2JjZmoKtQw37r3j7Dofu9kFKcYPdCh4AaSCnGaq8sp8Vs cNDBdzU9FVBk+8BZ9kKZnL0IDksPZpP6CY7AXYatbbD4K7M5PQSj4Cr3XosICLQfx5Q7 07ZkRlbpVRvq/grbkuXJ0ACK003xNSFP1qE1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SOMM3ZnT6ShEassx0LxQUWdBsGHWFIdan/8f93L6Pv4unnFqI2cwFGcrcsmUdi3Nkk pDw/gw5LYpHBJHwYO8cPU8Kqg/eLODfh3xiFsVZscLbdHR59iLS1LOXy0Hsq7SMHtbnH m0Xix3iPU+muaxmx3LoL4oP7/61NukWmu09dE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003081259q7526da3ejacdb40a60bd7feb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <00A0CAB1-E0F5-492C-AA14-BC9FAB7F0057@baymoon.com> <66f9cc1e1003080548v7d7cbb96p36f7ff6b2e0e19ee@mail.gmail.com> <4B9542F8.5040900@googlemail.com> <9ab0c76f1003081259q7526da3ejacdb40a60bd7feb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:08:24 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003081308h46d2adbfg18f791be25f163f1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:08:25 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:59 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Isnt that Fireworlds (of which Bill spoke) patch a bit Eclipsish Yes, I definitely agree to that! I do remember that preset, a harmonizer set to a fourth or a fifth up with a feedback loop that makes sound climb upwards with each loop. I overdosed this in the eighties and that sound still gives me unpleasant flashbacks. Yuk. ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 8 23:54:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B188C3BE86; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268092478; bh=1lDFWMu3KxVq7O0TkZDfQqOTbikRapEZ0qFGMPwj/q8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3PZQvxs/LciWVc33rE7CfsmdUyNEnDhh+C9ck1F29kn9ynYWbd8Spgf3KIXyuqkDKRCkZn2RCvKs0NZDy8EALZZqUANlOoi6qbboQ3iTT+Nzp9eT9YBQyBLziSEMi/+YPgA1rCldlrZRRyG2Hn2xAPqkGbWdC6bh23yWRZg167s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VHtDcsLFWRKmy0jrdXPOWNcv87MD3EcJl518Qt9nm8EBmI92FCKyy/JZTfgTku8UcULFwqFEpntrZYpAqdiAJBay7a3u0jkqjKRc7nZkBHOlg5TzprLurJKB/xvhH1eEnd6f/sspONfp78v2bceANmk95eSX5ywa8IPgn0+VjAo=; Message-ID: <487858.46482.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .GFRKhAVM1mUz7n2mdsVKeC7lpzgYBByRtiRpOWIyL5znj9 L.525Bo70_IX5RrYQM4hDw8nrCWzdQy0yj93FCJfRqblb51EzcKvL4c6uMl1 6xi1Dlm6MScU09VpVOg.Rg0nTA2EcbY3uiGkleyixo9ZdckZMz52hPwbtCex 6gYiCfZVSVG2nHICg9cR5k9rdHq1u3eqgByBLenZIZETds6qtsd2Yadh55bq d4qyRjqQZyIKk78MpLmLuplIy6gNXw6KOnDTs_clRUUHg.GOeXe.ub6oK_.S M7yAU1WI1Jg06r5pUCR2_nsVN0dJUs05V8UmOY5nINSRVinzQq1Nmy_SjxNQ cxJqzK.aiqrwHV9Bmu3Ride0oZI_qcLE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:54:38 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: RE: speak and spells for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7d8DO.A.FAF._4YlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, $65. plus shipping of course. 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West Africa. =A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 Dear Partner, =A0 =A0 This is an Excellent Letter from Mr Williams Patricks the chief auditor= incharge of debt recovery department section in bank of africa (b.o.a). ou= agadougou burkina faso west africa.=20 =A0 My dear partner in advance,I presumed that all is well with you and your fa= mily, =A0 Please let this do not be a surprise proposal to you because i got your con= tact information from the international directory in few weeks ago before i= decided to contact you on this magnitude and lucrative transaction for our= future survival in life.Moreover, I have laid all the solemn trust in you = before i decided to disclose this successful & confidential Project to you. =A0 I am Mr William Patricks the chief auditor incharge of debt recovery depart= ment section in foreign remittance department in=A0 our bank and i have had= the intent to contact you over this financial project worth the sum of thi= rty one million, united states dollars ($31,000,000.00 ) for our success. =A0 This is an abandoned sum that belongs to one of our bank foreign customers = who died along with his entire family through plane crash disaster since fe= w years ago.Meanwhile i was very fortune to came across the deceased file w= hen i was arranging the old and abandoned customers files in other to sign = and submit to the entire bank management for an official re-documentations = after the audit meeting 2009. =A0 Please be informed clearly that it was stated in our banking rules and regu= lations which was signed lawfully that if such fund remains unclaimed till = the period of 8 years started from the date when the beneficiary died, the = money will be transferred into the treasury as an unclaimed fund. =A0 As an honour and advantage bestowed to our foreign customers base on the ru= les guideing our bank, it was stated obviously that if you are not a burkin= a faso citizen, You have the absolute authority to claim the fund hence you= are a foreigner despite your differences from the country of origin of the= deceased.So the request of you as a foreigner is necessary to apply for th= e claim and transfer of the fund smoothly into your reliable bank account a= s the next of kin or extended relative to the deceased. =A0 On the transfer of this fund into your account, { 35% } will be your share = in respect of the account provision and your assistance rendered during the= transfer of the fund into your bank account and 45% will be my share being= the codinator of the Project. and10%will be for the expencies that will oc= cure during the Project.while 10 % will be shared to the respectable organi= sations centers such as charity organisation, motherless babies homes, and = helpless disabled people in the world. =A0 If you are really sure of your trustworthy, accountability and confidential= ity on this Project, contact me and agree that you will not change your min= d to cheat or disappoint me when the fund have getting into your account. =A0 Besides you should not entertain any fear because i am sure of the success = as an insider in the bank ok.Please reply through my private Email adress b= elow williamspatricks@sify.com with the assurance, include your private tel= ephone and fax numbers necessary for facilitate an easy communication in th= is transaction as soon as you reply so that i will let you know the next st= ep to follow in order to finalize this Project immediately.I expect your ur= gent communications.=20 =A0 Yours sincerely =A0MR WILLIAMS.=20 00226 75736607 =A0 --0-67367833-1268111252=:20413 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
From Mr Williams Patricks,
Director Incharge of Dept Reco= very Department  In Bank Of Africa (b.o.a) Ouagadougou Burkina Faso.West Africa.
 
     Dear Partner,
 
  This is an Excellent Letter from Mr Williams Patricks= the chief auditor incharge of debt recovery department section in bank of = africa (b.o.a). ouagadougou burkina faso west africa.
 
My dear= partner in advance,I presumed that all is well with you and your family, 
Please let this do not be a surprise proposal to you because i = got your contact information from the international directory in few weeks = ago before i decided to contact you on this magnitude and lucrative transac= tion for our future survival in life.Moreover, I have laid all the solemn t= rust in you before i decided to disclose this successful & confidential= Project to you.
 
I am Mr William Patricks the chief auditor in= charge of debt recovery department section in foreign remittance department= in  our bank and i have had the intent to contact you over this financial project worth the sum of thirty one million, united states dolla= rs ($31,000,000.00 ) for our success.
 
This is an abandoned sum= that belongs to one of our bank foreign customers who died along with his = entire family through plane crash disaster since few years ago.Meanwhile i = was very fortune to came across the deceased file when i was arranging the = old and abandoned customers files in other to sign and submit to the entire= bank management for an official re-documentations after the audit meeting = 2009.
 
Please be informed clearly that it was stated in our ban= king rules and regulations which was signed lawfully that if such fund rema= ins unclaimed till the period of 8 years started from the date when the ben= eficiary died, the money will be transferred into the treasury as an unclai= med fund.
 
As an honour and advantage bestowed to our foreign c= ustomers base on the rules guideing our bank, it was stated obviously that if you are not a burkina faso citizen, You have the absolut= e authority to claim the fund hence you are a foreigner despite your differ= ences from the country of origin of the deceased.So the request of you as a= foreigner is necessary to apply for the claim and transfer of the fund smo= othly into your reliable bank account as the next of kin or extended relati= ve to the deceased.
 
On the transfer of this fund into your acc= ount, { 35% } will be your share in respect of the account provision and yo= ur assistance rendered during the transfer of the fund into your bank accou= nt and 45% will be my share being the codinator of the Project. and10%will = be for the expencies that will occure during the Project.while 10 % will be= shared to the respectable organisations centers such as charity organisati= on, motherless babies homes, and helpless disabled people in the world.
=  
If you are really sure of your trustworthy, accountability and confidentiality on this Project, contact me and agree that you will no= t change your mind to cheat or disappoint me when the fund have getting int= o your account.
 
Besides you should not entertain any fear beca= use i am sure of the success as an insider in the bank ok.Please reply thro= ugh my private Email adress below williamspatricks@sify.com with the assura= nce, include your private telephone and fax numbers necessary for facilitat= e an easy communication in this transaction as soon as you reply so that i = will let you know the next step to follow in order to finalize this Project= immediately.I expect your urgent communications.
 
Yours sincerely
 MR WILLIAMS.
00226 75736607
 
=
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blessing.james51@yahoo.com

Hello
I read your profile today in (www.myrochat.com) and it was so good to me.u know that i am interested to be a friend first.i also believe that coming to you will be a probability of meeting that very love that has been lacking in my entire life. please i will like you to contact me direct to my e-mail address,
(blessing.james51@yahoo.com) i dont know the posebility of remaing in forum for long time,i will give you a full introduction of my self with my pictures ok. i will be waiting for your mail to my e-mail adsdress
(blessing.james51@yahoo.com) as you know
there is no age,race,colour n religion bar when it comes to true love,*
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--0-1881248700-1268113194=:67334-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 08:13:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3549F3BE8A; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268122435; bh=2GnPcVAa+uL+F8zE8R4HJVsisg/2tA9zQTGheF15CU0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=swpv0W0nST/AcrqnfNUFwS3sEFNW0raiH3dItW1DLCHOd1EhH2KYqaNBlZO1T8H/4i2iAuW6C55DDZcuh+/BlNEpjnrozD1i1wZiO2kw90b2CxFj4iUts/2pEHxx9Y1Dfe3jV8JrN6Htu05E4F0VSxt3sCztqTmoHp4ci7pikbE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ceXi+rii3n9KlM011Ut/NzYMw0j/DqkI4P2LYa7xLbf3f5X3dHBV5p2a4CCxYP16zx5jGJIGT8YWWQ4EDJyBHRt9qIq95Cx2rzPTY7mwoIdRvXSclqwBHpFXz1FnrXCr5gyL2babJD2uoamBHXWFU2u7Re+AQT/TBhbEEN0qd0M=; Message-ID: <432594.31423.qm@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZtvcRbsVM1kPvVPlRhkhAE.tVq4lVXqucblII0ncgNnq8Za TtbyKwOu2mBZJ67Vwb2fAEHqrvYRgecTGH687GZuGGjZet9r7cIcVLEp7_Sr guT8gevD8oYgx4yWtqfTyczUfzXhihSS5JusnuI7ZARSHXNGYpu4yjsNCZZP eKdFrnU4vaAknTvWbZwYBSvhHxh9QjkW.s6KmJr1mjXAPRg4tY_l.jurW.IX LCM2A5SrEQ2dHoGJ366gpmBA9J3VIzSMtmlQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:13:55 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Antwerp loop fest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <72d98a$e6f4kq@relay.skynet.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <31GM1B.A.9oH.ENglLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:13:57 +0000 (UTC) yes Indeed! Ronald is a master sound tech and such a friendly and relaxed p= erson too work with,is always a pleasure to play over there plus that venue= still impresses me.=0AWhat i really like this time is the noticible intere= st support and enjoyment of the audience,the fact that it had already sold = so many tickets in advance (to new people who werent there last year) compl= etly took us all by surprise and is an obvious indiciation of not only Sjaa= ks work but perhpas a growing interest in this art form as well.So yes kudo= s to Ronald Sjaak,Ingrid for being such a lovely host and yes for the city = of Antwerp!=0A=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- microph= onics schrieb am Mo, 8.3.2010:=0A=0A> Von: mi= crophonics =0A> Betreff: Re: Antwerp loop fest= =0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 8. M=E4rz, = 2010 05:18 Uhr=0A> No worries, Luis !=A0 No harm done=0A> as I know exactly= what you mean.=0A> But indeed most of all thanks to Ronald for doing an=0A= > excellent mixing and PA job !=A0 These are the main=0A> actors behind a g= ood concert as they bring everything in its=0A> right place.=0A> As well gr= atitude to Sjaak and Ingrid for being great hosts=0A> and choosing this bea= utiful theatre as the playing ground=0A> for this fantastic festival.=0A> = =0A> Dirk.=0A> =0A> =0A> > brother Dirk man no way how ca i forget you amig= o! is=0A> just my bad english i meant it was great meeting these "new"=0A> = loopers in person,i had already had the pleasure of meeting=0A> you last ye= ar and the year before in Cologne,so it was a=0A> pleasure seeing you,Ronal= d and everyone else that was there=0A> las year. and by the way if anybody = in this list has not=0A> lisetened to Dirks CDs "the river of apprearance" = yet you=0A> are missing something as well as Sjaaks new release we got=0A> = drunk on good chilenean wine while we listened to this CDs=0A> truly beauti= ful man! big hugs and hope to see you some time=0A> again cheers www.myspac= e.com/luisangulocom --- microphonics=0A> =0A> = schrieb am Mo, 8.3.2010: > Von: microphonics = =0A> > Betreff: Re: Antwerp loop fest > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com=0A> > Datum: Montag, 8. M=E4rz, 2010 02:22 Uhr > Thank you,=0A> Luis, = for mentioning me > ;-) > > But seriously it=0A> was a great fest, for ever= y listener > something I think=0A> from ethnic-influenced to the most colde= st > but=0A> devastating beautiful drones of N. > And the turnout was=0A> f= antastic.=A0 Amazing to see how > perfect everything=0A> flowed... > > Dirk= . > > > > Hey gang i=0A> just want to say that the festival in > Antwerp wa= s=0A> wonderful,great organized as usual Sjaak rocks > and it=0A> was aweso= me meeting Ricky,John,Steve,and Helmut,every >=0A> ones set was awesome! ch= eers www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> > __________________________________= ________________ Do=0A> You > Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf= =FCgt=0A> =FCber einen > herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://ma= il.yahoo.com > >=0A> www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics > www.microphonics.be >= =0A> > > __________________________________________________=0A> Do You Yaho= o!? Sie sind Spam leid? 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Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails.= =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 08:44:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A49AD3BE89; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 335280544/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAOOYlUs+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAHyEqNUYR5BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,607,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="335280544" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:44:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: loop gig online Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4B960A7B.6574.A7A30@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:44:49 +0000 (UTC) There's a vid of my recent set for the "Awakenings" crew in the UK. Not fascinating visually, it must be said, but hopefully might appeal sonically... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyDsjlRMuws Nick Robinson music site : http://www.nickrobinson.info/music myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 08:55:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 297733BE8F; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <11282044.3529061268124944737.JavaMail.root@wmail18> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:55:44 +0100 (CET) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: R: new gig videos with looping content MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.136 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Yes! very interesting and very peculiar! Loop Ensemble are not so common also us in here in In Italy have one: Koan Loop Ensemble: it's an open project in which many people can partecipate http://www.jamendo.com/it/artist/KOAN_LOOP_ENSEMBLE Thank you! Max Liver >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: os@collective.co.uk >Data: 08/03/2010 10.36 >A: "Loopers Delight" >Ogg: new gig videos with looping content > >Hi, > >I'm sure you've all heard me going on about Improvizone before - >anyway, we did another gig last week, and the videos are now online: > >http://www.vimeo.com/album/192116 > > >cheers, >os. > >-- >os@collective.co.uk >http://twitter.com/expertsleepers >http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 09:37:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C3393BE8D; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1268127470; l=4687; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID: X-RZG-AUTH; bh=dbG/P+uO6ANDBkjrGdNclLYdaxc=; b=kntmqNDxt7RX9ET9SyG/sT+/V1iN03eI+3TIH5NmxzR8d4XBfEkV0Gv1jxLqRRsARph z7VP6uweOtd9nuoIrLRGYgALul/jx9ET2uuYBGtfb/OCCAmLnkj7ImYbdy53KNAnKYlHf L6drxvZCu7u4MP9sBAQwLkALLHkkAtG9Uww= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvumSDR1VBGg== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <2DD1B49D78F34DA89429A8ABF7F940F4@Christojota> From: "Christo Jota" To: Subject: Pat Metheney-Orchestrion-tour Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:01:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0142_01CABF6F.7C0E7DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: <5VN0cC.A.y6B.wbhlLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CABF6F.7C0E7DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last saturday I=B4ve been at a show of Pat Metheney=B4s Orchestrion. = (K=F6ln,Germany - Philharmonie) Very funny. He had a lot of instruments (drums, percussion, piano, = vibraphone,bass) in a big wall of shelves behind him. It looked like a "toys r us" store. = Pat "Alice" in wonderland. The instruments were hit/played by magic ghosts (computers). And it all = was a big orchestral sound of a ghost band. Some good moments, some no good ones. After playing 2 longer solo-acoustic guitar pieces (good), he performed = his new album with the ghost-band (not good mainly, few feeling). The more interesting part for me was the encores, where he used a lot of = looping and also some string-sounds with the guitar and midi-playing with the = Orchestrion instruments.=20 His looping device was quite a big one with pedals looking like = organ-bass-pedals. Maybe a special custom looper made for Metheney!? Don=B4t know.=20 Metheney made some vague explanations of the technical side of his = Orchestrion,(the roots of this are somewhere in the beginning of the last century in Germany), which was sympathetic and gave the whole thing "a not too serious = character". Like I said : A little boy in toyland. So this was helpful and entertaining. Otherwise it would have been a bit = boring and too statically night. But all in all I liked it and could enjoy at least = half of the show. Christo www.christojota.de ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CABF6F.7C0E7DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Last saturday I=B4ve been at a show of Pat = Metheney=B4s=20 Orchestrion. (K=F6ln,Germany - Philharmonie)
Very funny. He had a lot of instruments = (drums,=20 percussion, piano, vibraphone,bass) in
a big wall of shelves behind him. It looked = like a "toys=20 r us" store. Pat "Alice" in wonderland.
The instruments were hit/played by magic = ghosts=20 (computers). And it all was a big
orchestral sound of a ghost band. Some good = moments,=20 some no good ones.
After playing 2  longer solo-acoustic = guitar pieces=20 (good), he performed his new album
with the ghost-band (not good mainly, few=20 feeling).
The more interesting part for me was the = encores, where=20 he used a lot of looping
and also some string-sounds with the guitar = and=20 midi-playing with the Orchestrion instruments.
His looping device was quite a big one = with pedals looking like organ-bass-pedals. Maybe = a
special custom looper made for=20 Metheney!? Don=B4t know.
Metheney made some vague explanations of the = technical=20 side of his Orchestrion,(the roots of
this are somewhere in the beginning of = the last=20 century in Germany),
which was sympathetic and gave the whole thing = "a not=20 too serious character".
Like I said : A little boy in = toyland.
So this was helpful and entertaining. = Otherwise it would=20 have been a bit boring and
too statically night. But all in all I liked = it and=20 could enjoy at least half of the show.
Christo
www.christojota.de
 
------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CABF6F.7C0E7DC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 10:07:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E54493BE87; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 583 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:07:37 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.6.070618 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:57:32 +0100 Subject: Suggestion: Oberheim Echoplex From: Angelo Mussoni To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Suggestion: Oberheim Echoplex Thread-Index: Acq/bu+QLl3B7itiEd+E0QAX8sz7pQ== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Dear folks, I have do decide if to buy an old oberheim echoplex unit - the software is loop II 5.0, and the memory allow to record 198 seconds - for about 500 dollars: I would need to record, overdub and recall differet song parts, in order to play live with it. I'm also would interested to store the recorded part on the PC. What do you suggest? Is that old oberheim a good option, even according the price point of view? 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For further details and assistance on this Remittance Notification, kindly forward your FULL CONTACT ADDRESSES TELEPHONE and FAX NUMBERS directly to: mrsnancymoree@admin.in.th Yours sincerely, Mrs. Nancy Moree Head, International Banking Division. Barclays Bank PLC, UK. -- Este mensaje ha sido analizado por MailScanner en busca SPAM, y se considera que está limpio. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 12:53:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC2973BE88; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3b518e4a-bace-4b0f-a07a-682c21f49184_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: Trying something new... Reactions to sounds that were. One year of looping and all normal playing is sort of gone :-) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:53:56 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2010 12:53:56.0518 (UTC) FILETIME=[946D9460:01CABF87] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:53:57 +0000 (UTC) --_3b518e4a-bace-4b0f-a07a-682c21f49184_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok so this time i did a LONG improvised looping thing=2C then i took the fi= rst 11 or so minutes and improvised another part with EDP and guitar as a "= compliment"=2C then i just listened to the compliment and did a third part. Next step was to pitch shift the original take as well as running it throug= h reverb more or less 100% wet=2C and very little of dry signal. SO now the= first live loop take has turned itne a ambient background layer and the to= other takes are the lead parts so to speak... In this way there is very li= ttle of melody or proper chords.. more reactions and sounds...=20 SO i started using the EDP one year ago and for each month I get further aw= ay from my rock blues roots and more in to sound making... The improtant th= ing is I HAVE A LOT of fun and find the process vara creative=2C i hope tha= t it might be enjoyable for somebody else as well.. I will also mix and publish the first take.... someday. Can be intresting i= nm order to understand the process.. http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D8861598 = --_3b518e4a-bace-4b0f-a07a-682c21f49184_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok so this time i did a LONG improvised looping thing=2C then i took the fi= rst 11 or so minutes and improvised another part with EDP and guitar as a "= compliment"=2C then i just listened to the compliment and did a third part.=
Next step was to pitch shift the original take as well as running it throug= h reverb more or less 100% wet=2C and very little of dry signal. SO now the= first live loop take has turned itne a ambient background layer and the to= other takes are the lead parts so to speak... In this way there is very li= ttle of melody or proper chords.. more reactions and sounds...
SO i started using the EDP one year ago and for each month I get further aw= ay from my rock blues roots and more in to sound making... The improtant th= ing is I HAVE A LOT of fun and find the process vara creative=2C i hope tha= t it might be enjoyable for somebody else as well..
I will also mix and publish the first take.... someday. Can be intresting i= nm order to understand the process..
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D8861598=
= --_3b518e4a-bace-4b0f-a07a-682c21f49184_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 13:23:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDEE03BE8B; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RGGUiYMnVXagr8V99Mdek8BEu0jX27911ugkQzJ4665Q+t2mwmuT+9JWkj9FkGPh; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2DD1B49D78F34DA89429A8ABF7F940F4@Christojota> References: <2DD1B49D78F34DA89429A8ABF7F940F4@Christojota> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:16:19 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Pat Metheney-Orchestrion-tour Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-943981494==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79738be7f672fab544119bc66c612f16e9350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.125.160 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:23:23 +0000 (UTC) --============_-943981494==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's quite a contraption. I spoke with Pat at=20 his wife's art gallery near my home here in NYC.=20 Pat said that the piano has 500ms of latency...=20 The Orchestrion is quite a tough "axe" to=20 master..!! >Last saturday I=B4ve been at a show of Pat=20 >Metheney=B4s Orchestrion. (K=F6ln,Germany -=20 >Philharmonie) >Very funny. He had a lot of instruments (drums,=20 >percussion, piano, vibraphone,bass) in >a big wall of shelves behind him. It looked like=20 >a "toys r us" store. Pat "Alice" in wonderland. >The instruments were hit/played by magic ghosts=20 >(computers). And it all was a big >orchestral sound of a ghost band. Some good moments, some no good ones. >After playing 2 longer solo-acoustic guitar=20 >pieces (good), he performed his new album >with the ghost-band (not good mainly, few feeling). >The more interesting part for me was the=20 >encores, where he used a lot of looping >and also some string-sounds with the guitar and=20 >midi-playing with the Orchestrion instruments. >His looping device was quite a big one with=20 >pedals looking like organ-bass-pedals. Maybe a >special custom looper made for Metheney!? Don=B4t know. >Metheney made some vague explanations of the=20 >technical side of his Orchestrion,(the roots of >this are somewhere in the beginning of the last century in Germany), >which was sympathetic and gave the whole thing "a not too serious character= ". >Like I said : A little boy in toyland. >So this was helpful and entertaining. Otherwise=20 >it would have been a bit boring and >too statically night. But all in all I liked it=20 >and could enjoy at least half of the show. >Christo >www.christojota.de > -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky --============_-943981494==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Pat Metheney-Orchestrion-tour
It's quite a contraption.   I spoke with Pat at his wife's art gallery near my home here in NYC.  Pat said that the piano has 500ms of latency...  The Orchestrion is quite a tough "axe" to master..!!

Last saturday I=B4ve been at a show of Pat Metheney=B4s Orchestrion. (K=F6ln,Germany - Philharmonie)
Very funny. He had a lot of instruments (drums, percussion, piano, vibraphone,bass) in
a big wall of shelves behind him. It looked like a "toys r us" store. Pat "Alice" in wonderland.
The instruments were hit/played by magic ghosts (computers). And it all was a big
orchestral sound of a ghost band. Some good moments, some no good ones.
After playing 2  longer solo-acoustic guitar pieces (good), he performed his new album
with the ghost-band (not good mainly, few feeling).
The more interesting part for me was the encores, where he used a lot of looping
and also some string-sounds with the guitar and midi-playing with the Orchestrion instruments.
His looping device was quite a big one with pedals looking like organ-bass-pedals. Maybe a
special custom looper made for Metheney!? Don=B4t know.
Metheney made some vague explanations of the technical side of his Orchestrion,(the roots of
this are somewhere in the beginning of the last century in Germany),
which was sympathetic and gave the whole thing "a not too serious character".
Like I said : A little boy in toyland.
So this was helpful and entertaining. Otherwise it would have been a bit boring and
too statically night. But all in all I liked it and could enjoy at least half of the show.
Christo
www.christojota.de
 


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=2E..
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
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Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Kk4fe2wrbTrP0y2PIcPBs0aMrg+3YDbFSrwsZHKxKj4=; b=uYFPifXFRof5HiAi6WfNJPz6Y/zooMTij5g1m+FbPjvpI5RQ1en9iqa4/+wGDuG3Ti lbJXhRQVlFULA6vWkolVMCVwweAnOi5TsNqwms4fD/sP0KAgeBr++c3dfQEOqArMV/UM rU7nk6F+Wwnj3MpDL0LpvE63TEdAKwqXCkAe4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xg/qiGsCQQGvBen6aN+P2nT5oyh2H9RaRY/DPgwVv9ycr7GaRNRTPEOCTzUqQvkl+e 1OYZuMVckJ52Rorun8evgKwX65mvvUfcKjPKdVwkQ8EDawhu0OEMgeRWurawCxIkmvcr xivgQGIzIy667sMW3wo6Q9Au19DY0bDqcTAbw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003080438l275b14b6v22a964b5913b9c37@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> <4B94CE8C.2010509@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003080438l275b14b6v22a964b5913b9c37@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:12:07 -0800 Message-ID: <4cdf3b971003090812k58519ba6p8d4458dd3e1892fa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the death of the loop From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636920a057438f00481607195 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:12:09 +0000 (UTC) --001636920a057438f00481607195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I also found that my axiom49 was programmed to send an on/off message everytime I pressed the sustain pedal. Whichever MIDI controller you're using, make sure that you're setting your footswitch correctly in the software editor. Also sometimes footwswitches have a polarity switch that reverses their functioning. I had similar problems with looper and in my case it turned out to be software related, but those two are the main reasons you'd running into that problem. You'll figure it out though, I literally almost broke my Axiom for a couple of days beore figuring it out!! Again, if you want some song based looping ideas, I do exactly that with covers and originals, as well as jams(which i still try to give the air of composition, or at least group improv, rather than loop based music): http://www.sendspace.com/file/udzrhm The Ones(original) http://www.sendspace.com/file/u9d6zj Fallin(De La Soul/Teenage Fan Club Cover) http://www.sendspace.com/file/4xd156 Book Of Right On(Joanna Newsom Cover) http://www.sendspace.com/file/rk9uhn Alef (Instrumental improv/jam) http://www.sendspace.com/file/vcb55o Dublike(Instrumental improv/jam) http://www.sendspace.com/file/bz4f3g Morning(Instrumental improv/jam) http://www.sendspace.com/file/8i3a03 Evening(Instrumental improv/jam) - Show quoted text - On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Nadia Salom wrote: > (Ableton Live, Looper) > > Normally if I click once than it should it > > start recording, and if I click a second time it should continue in > playback > > modus. But instead sometimes it is undoing the latest recording and then > > going into playback. And sometimes it records while the pedal is down and > > then plays when the pedal is released. I am using a normal pedal that was > > connected to my e-piano as a sustain pedal....? Is it the wrong type of > > pedal...? > > Sustain pedals can sometimes be analog, i.e. sending an electric > pulse. Better would be to use a pedal that sends MIDI. Some MIDI > pedals can send many MIDI events at one button press and when that > happens it is just random luck if the right event arrives frist to the > software. If another event arrives first something else, or nothing, > will happen. > > You can use anything that sends MIDI if kicked, not necessarily a > dedicated pedalboard. I have an old MC303 here with buttons big > enough to be used as pedals. An old drum machine of any kind would do > fine if you can stomp the buttons. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --001636920a057438f00481607195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also found that my axiom49 was programmed to send an on/off message every= time I pressed the sustain pedal. Whichever MIDI controller you're usin= g, make sure that you're setting your footswitch correctly in the softw= are editor. Also sometimes footwswitches have a polarity switch that revers= es their functioning. I had similar problems with looper and in my case it = turned out to be software related, but those two are the main reasons you&#= 39;d running into that problem. You'll figure it out though, I literall= y almost broke my Axiom for a couple of days beore figuring it out!! Again,= if you want some song based looping ideas, I do exactly that with covers a= nd originals, as well as jams(which i still try to give the air of composit= ion, or at least group improv, rather than loop based music):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/udzrh= m=A0 The Ones(original)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/u9d6zj=A0=A0= =A0 Fallin(De La Soul/Teenage Fan Club Cover)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rk9uhn=A0=A0= =A0=A0 Alef (Instrumental improv/jam)
http:= //www.sendspace.com/file/vcb55o=A0=A0=A0 Dublike(Instrumental improv/ja= m)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bz4f3g=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 Morning(Instrumental improv/jam)
= http://www.sendspace.com/file/8i3a03=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Evening(Instrumenta= l improv/jam)
- Show quoted text = -


On= Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Nadia Salo= m <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrot= e:
(Ableton Live, Looper)
> Normally if I click once than it should it
> start recording, and if I click a second time it should continue in pl= ayback
> modus. But instead sometimes it is undoing the latest recording and th= en
> going into playback. And sometimes it records while the pedal is down = and
> then plays when the pedal is released. I am using a normal pedal that = was
> connected to my e-piano as a sustain pedal....? Is it the wrong type o= f
> pedal...?

Sustain pedals can sometimes be analog, i.e. sendin= g an electric
pulse. Better would be to use a pedal that sends MIDI. Some MIDI
pedals can send many MIDI events at one button press and when that
happens it is just random luck if the right event arrives frist to the
software. If another event arrives first something else, or nothing,
will happen.

You can use anything that sends MIDI if kicked, not necessarily a
dedicated pedalboard. I have an old MC303 here =A0with buttons big
enough to be used as pedals. An old drum machine of any kind would do
fine if you can stomp the buttons.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


--001636920a057438f00481607195-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 20:56:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A84D3BE8C; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eYRhUfornXNYA4PNOXhLqA/G6PUUZBTxQmoBjA7SwkA=; b=xPF8mNiXqUrGw/Eq+DmcfZrcmkDCZKKkxYJWQzqQ4ZCKAJV+5qZwCtV8YmBETYFkHF CxE3Xi1aCGqhvpKLFdUBYsFTdwCsdPx5TpAv+hAujZJhDRTvIu4Ih5lrO4LHkbJAqEgb jUyBcqZaYIJFTa3dd03YL1/N2/gg/puBUIItw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tL3XaVXQxPgOSoWAsrgSh+FwaxdAT+v8n/Zfb6pzISA4f5iHDTWaVHXqCy71mxxzi4 IHllWV0G3+YqziUmmwW1HMiwt0ES3iz9dH6XHV1p0CWXbekWQWLqMP8RFHi9fyfhDjxi IPMeKkIP8OKYi6vn8pqOa3US0b5AmFdVrAx8o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <432594.31423.qm@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <72d98a$e6f4kq@relay.skynet.be> <432594.31423.qm@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:56:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp loop fest From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:56:23 +0000 (UTC) 50 new photos from the Loopfest uploaded by journalist Jurgen Verhasselt http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjugge/collections/72157623585833180/ -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 20:59:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5C8C3BE8F; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3k6NdxRx5xbn7DZJ0TLcac4NaRJKUSAYuPwaZCFPJ/Y=; b=fVdJq680ILJqvAGpdr3mcTYF4xVTgYBudHLud0fOkeJ05LhqI4eX8C+qMEIUzrq7if Cx6koB/9Ufs/MjLGQSFZM+DclCNaiwNrW2RmLL1omYbbtlxo2+3Fz68lR/KRIVsYnBLv eDK1TgH8n+LyNGsHaygrceaUXM/i3lU8Op/8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mryqUaeikb/u1dBv9p/ekASWXNw4t8tN4n5snyF4AdKf3XpWUwVOyBjUj0tYbL6zi0 LIw/EgLUkGHtPW4jkWJrINIDKf8OxnEG+FuFPx68nNZHV4IVBxOxSwIt3E11ZrSKgps9 RMxuZpKwXZw9LTca0gxktWj5gtfJbzrx1Zb5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3C0EDB23-1454-4423-B5A6-A74EC36C7DAC@baymoon.com> References: <3C0EDB23-1454-4423-B5A6-A74EC36C7DAC@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:59:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:24 PM, William Walker wrote: > Hey I spotted some sexy amps, did people bring there own amplifiers? Yep, both Dirk and Hellmut used their own amps + mics. I'm not an amp specialist but it sounded great. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 21:45:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F24603BE90; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20100309145003.oj8q6t9l0k8wk4gk@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:50:03 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Anders Bergdahl Cc: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: Trying something new... Reactions to sounds that were. One year of looping and all normal playing is sort of gone :-) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Most enjoyable! Thanks for sharing.. :) -cpr Quoting Anders Bergdahl : > > Ok so this time i did a LONG improvised looping thing, then i took =20 > the first 11 or so minutes and improvised another part with EDP and =20 > guitar as a "compliment", then i just listened to the compliment and =20 > did a third part. > > Next step was to pitch shift the original take as well as running it =20 > through reverb more or less 100% wet, and very little of dry =20 > signal. SO now the first live loop take has turned itne a ambient =20 > background layer and the to other takes are the lead parts so to =20 > speak... In this way there is very little of melody or proper =20 > chords.. more reactions and sounds... > > SO i started using the EDP one year ago and for each month I get =20 > further away from my rock blues roots and more in to sound making... =20 > The improtant thing is I HAVE A LOT of fun and find the process =20 > vara creative, i hope that it might be enjoyable for somebody else =20 > as well.. > > I will also mix and publish the first take.... someday. Can be =20 > intresting inm order to understand the process.. > > http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D8861598 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 22:32:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E09C3BE8C; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=7ZFUQloD82N4RSK4AU9J67lipg4kAt1DW3kYkxzpZj4=; b=wGEHh4SFOEte0Q873vS+qhpk6+oZyFHehD3t14f0VAFbmvk3cJr1DtXyqifCB5MQaf dKUHdlrWnuqQj7dzNa3bAKgtsoKKNU0vuBxXeJF2h+7w0gCdjuBMYT41yi4tuxZ+9tHa egDK8oFnK60I5hMfjzwQL0vC2TzhDc+uXxyHY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=k6qevEoJCoGUsBaW/DXmXwsClE0UGI4g7HqVJ11f8jfuB8N+zhx8CcStkPH0VBGZ6m MYPUwON/41HG0wiUl254NlIMJafp8PP957PqRSkZGoR+n4fcu18F+Bhjfmrd+BmWMjsH JQLrx2/b6EjccpWzmWDQBNuxxzS7Ibd1PwDsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:32:03 -0500 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b1003091432t94514c1s1417a3a7bfff9d85@mail.gmail.com> Subject: re:Suggestion: Oberheim Echoplex From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:32:06 +0000 (UTC) I'd say go for it, they're getting harder and harder to come by, and you should be able to upgrade easily. Easiest way to get that stuff to the computer is just to line out. Hmmm...not sure you know from your email that is - you know that it doesn't store audio on it right? You'd have play the parts you're going to loop. If you turn the machine off, the memory dumps. If you need um....prepared loops/audio it might not be what you're looking for. However, if you want to what is referred to as "livelooping" than the plex is a great tool! hope that helps, Andy G Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:57:32 +0100 From: Angelo Mussoni To: Subject: Suggestion: Oberheim Echoplex Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear folks, I have do decide if to buy an old oberheim echoplex unit - the software is loop II 5.0, and the memory allow to record 198 seconds - for about 500 dollars: I would need to record, overdub and recall differet song parts, in order to play live with it. I'm also would interested to store the recorded part on the PC. What do you suggest? Is that old oberheim a good option, even according the price point of view? Regards, Angelo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 22:36:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16FFD3BE8E; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=vXY8m2Vw0rHivHI18AuyLhGr0c3WCtj/pAazNQ1sQd4=; b=dyg39m0tTpLeB/Fjp1EaQzsp6NIrRdSXTqHeDBrXFHfpGR5crsPf+UHhvOgqYJf92E c3+fdHBFFAyTNyKXaJnoJvYonup2upwj80z1fx9Kab9AJMJ4pKveZ3Lyhpv6dqmR3Nap AskCCJU4ktp21gKXX5xjoumbwZgjK3y/KDino= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=aNxPhCrbfABbk9BNezjApWcgOG/C5Sj883unDgl94EuB80cFiRfzOciD9SL+5hPrze Hu5X4C7N4eFq4W7Hk36UBhvre8YC1SzgaoanlqeIALcxmcbXwUHc5WCTsupOGpsNNNWD b/1NWQCGwRl7hcjGq7TPGhHITVP06ephSjMJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b1003091436i6c3791b8g89953aac579c2272@mail.gmail.com> Subject: re:Trying something new... From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:36:31 +0000 (UTC) But, the link to your song didn't work, it just sent me to some default page. Do I have to be logged into that website or something facebookish like that? Andy G +++++++++++++ Ok so this time i did a LONG improvised looping thing=2C then i took the fi= rst 11 or so minutes and improvised another part with EDP and guitar as a "= compliment"=2C then i just listened to the compliment and did a third part. Next step was to pitch shift the original take as well as running it throug= h reverb more or less 100% wet=2C and very little of dry signal. SO now the= first live loop take has turned itne a ambient background layer and the to= other takes are the lead parts so to speak... In this way there is very li= ttle of melody or proper chords.. more reactions and sounds...=20 SO i started using the EDP one year ago and for each month I get further aw= ay from my rock blues roots and more in to sound making... The improtant th= ing is I HAVE A LOT of fun and find the process vara creative=2C i hope tha= t it might be enjoyable for somebody else as well.. I will also mix and publish the first take.... someday. Can be intresting i= nm order to understand the process.. http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D8861598 = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 22:42:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 065073BE98; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268174518; bh=SDaJ7MiDwm0I7WigoB4QM2aJUPryTHD5BgdDTQPqB2A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=w9Ulk/ytAMVGrl1jEs7ZqOVkC8zhzvVS8KWeIvrLDlwoE01rTKB1hf7jscj/EldWe6QJ9J7kLaw3k13dfqokpbHViIFK4Czl5Mc3+fB4bdZ6zw0/MM8b9QRkTpSbdtsfHoiZL68B+l2tY0iPJCeQHjWiDtPg8NfBnEs0ZuWHHb4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LmhEjKF/gbYsLtYT4fz3zlfzhgONsJUiBEHzT94qA+ZOsCtUON/89XF8ScISp2TWNC9nDowVHc3SJFgo4MwwfOGmeyjzw7xPqXr2d1q9gggMAKLVtm95CAM7e1hSRg9Q/2oVA3g5dNDRHfj2qn2MB1iqfTnrOv1PAWGrYw+043M=; Message-ID: <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3PduSSQVM1lSmVfI0QGM2LQc6Ub.SruvJ_a5knttlKknDDy 1x8e_otaBeOhNwm3XQWBHdOB3W1rpC_x1.o2cRJsIVJyg6TaHPhuqfnAEiQq 038bNTpyjNYL1bdLsNczA7nQXr1zbyW5ShK44oi0scGjJFh5DWLKcb9PCU7y GneoijmiQwYCXEcgO5ctXMQ0B3gSnZsMVqhO_85q01hu4_BxH8EtCC1P8MGo qFqr45bl8XX8J3VWcrYrBUqxnGg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:41:58 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: video software for looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:41:59 +0000 (UTC) thanx looks really interesting,i perhaps forgot to mention that im interest= ed in software that will let me upload my own vids or pics to create a coll= age of images. cheers www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Jeff Duke schrieb am Mo, 8.3.2010: > Von: Jeff Duke > Betreff: Re: video software for looping > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 8. M=E4rz, 2010 04:07 Uhr >=20 >=20 > =20 > #yiv1133565213 .hmmessage P { > PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-= TOP:0px;} > #yiv1133565213 .hmmessage { > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;} >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 > I=A0have a friend who gets > amazing results from this, i=20 > have not used it yet. It is free software. > =A0 > http://aestesis.eu/ > =A0 > j >=20 > ----- Original Message > -----=20 > From:=20 > Gareth > Whittock=20 > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > =20 > Sent: Monday, March > 08, 2010 5:34=20 > AM > Subject: RE: video > software for=20 > looping > =20 > Hi Luis, > check this page out: > http://www.audiovisualizers.com/toolshak/vjprgpix/softmain.htm > I've=20 > been using resolume vj software, (you can control that > through midi sequences)=20 > but it's a matter of personal taste and the sort of > imagery you want to=20 > project. Great fun though.. there's some tremendous > stuff out=20 > there >=20 > peace >=20 > gareth blugaruda >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Date: Mon, 8=20 > Mar 2010 10:19:42 +0000 > > From: labaloops@yahoo.com > > Subject:=20 > video software for looping > > To:=20 > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > there was a thread a=20 > while a go here about software that could be synced to > music,id be interested=20 > specially if the software could somehow sense rhythmic > pulses and would change=20 > grafic or video sequences randomly is there anything like > that out=20 > there? > > cheers > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >=20 > >=20 > __________________________________________________ > > Do You=20 > Yahoo!? > > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen=20 > herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails.=20 > > http://mail.yahoo.com=20 > =20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? 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Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Sc= hutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 22:54:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8918A3BE98; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=egihWkVsLzi66z2Auy0jSP8/dfUMQmDcg5aeOuejjw8=; b=cHAt6VqUuuzeHc3hD0/gPjtNpwi6AM5e/UAt5QHOsl5l+C0Cvf5V1gQHd+iZ3a04vn oFsfQsCt7LgFSMrWK53ylbG0bWgVeuZMuq+t+eU5CdTrS0HadFJcLGKT4qdrKewWlQVA dmwsL9fr9fQUT4yMdIDiswLq5QRlYcs6meCn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mx13Vb2VkjgEEApAE1g2mrLmUjC/kCsZ6sj4fOveq+i81QXAYeIXMDYmjRZgaSBD4v q62WvXqri7av0fS7wJxNOS8Y9TUFFjNs8YhZ5KeucR6j3uARC0PcGj4Wfpgm4CxGRm7l dKDCU4iHKN+7X0y6UqExdb8503AynUa3dMqc0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <11319.216.1266115456.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <13715.216.1266076843.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <11319.216.1266115456.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:53:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [New Release] - Premonition Factory- 59 airplanes waiting for New York From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Some of you have emailed me in the past about the availability of the digital downloads. Good news, my new Premonition Factory album is now available on Bandcamp, iTunes, CDBaby etc. Full previews of all tracks and the limited edition CD, a luxury 6 page digisleeve with 8 page booklet are available at the Premonition Factory website http://premonitionfactory.com/ Enjoy :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 23:30:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71E573BE8A; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_78edaa64-801e-484b-8848-77e977c72365_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Trying something new... Link fixed (i hope) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:30:52 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b1003091436i6c3791b8g89953aac579c2272@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3ebb9b1003091436i6c3791b8g89953aac579c2272@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2010 23:30:52.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[8EBB2790:01CABFE0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:30:53 +0000 (UTC) --_78edaa64-801e-484b-8848-77e977c72365_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Strange there seem to be something wrong with that link=2C here is a new on= e http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D8861598 =20 I hope this one works.. =20 > Date: Tue=2C 9 Mar 2010 17:36:27 -0500 > Subject: re:Trying something new... > From: loafcitious@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > But=2C the link to your song didn't work=2C it just sent me > to some default page. 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= = --_78edaa64-801e-484b-8848-77e977c72365_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 9 23:39:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A41163BE93; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dSfEqZaUO+BDgS0kSjInMsBfSqo2dgMfSdrzhzGzXjs=; b=ggctvLTDWMVXmuj12PE4bujNd/uhaN1rivYJf6Wws726OtAyhvLSm9h0hvjG705lyN HhNtDh56/yXojLETd240P0K+S+tmgCsJhhdxjaH2plex0Im4PNffZNI31/x+5edB0VwI MzRG0Nfe3mM+t+g8FDZg9qF5G4DgJ/pMIfO44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N23gN/4btg58v/ubIVLvwapRmC6yQ71rQcUlgQD/TJu6lkTYMeqVG+U8tNRycGNxeG pgC92norXiZwSKa1PctaqpFdwjqDEy/19NxWCfaO+XZIM7jfQCwSr/E3TwjIqGPt2z7I L+9Lm7OzD/3Go08QQcg9FSXvBMtvzOhZ1Y7iA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:39:30 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: video software for looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:39:33 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:41 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > im interested in software that will let me upload my own vids or pics to create a collage of images. A web browser can do that for video regarding YouTube, Vimeo etc. Quicktime Player and similar video editors these days have a direct pipe-to-YouTube button that makes sure you publish the video at the optimal format (not having stereo squashed into mono and worse...) "Collage of images" - hm... guess that means you want them placed side by side all over the screen, like iTune's record cover screen saver? Don't know about any software that does that four you. But Flickr.com will let you present images in overview mode as well as slideshow. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 00:13:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4649B3BE8B; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19UiThtnihUzecjzwdTIvFpF03wUWqfRkT+tJrbpC fipMOnosVqclom Message-ID: <4B96E423.4070003@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:13:23 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the death of the loop References: <4B8FE359.8030302@gmx.de> <4B941721.4070508@tiscali.co.uk> <20100307224520.79260@gmx.net> <866238.3526.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100308082841.141440@gmx.net> <4B94CE8C.2010509@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e1003080438l275b14b6v22a964b5913b9c37@mail.gmail.com> <4cdf3b971003090812k58519ba6p8d4458dd3e1892fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4cdf3b971003090812k58519ba6p8d4458dd3e1892fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050500050302090609080104" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.51000000000000001,0.5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:13:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050500050302090609080104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The problem happens only when I connect my foot pedals to akai apc40, if I connect to my korg midi keyboard it works fine... but I only have one connection for that. I think it must have something to do with the polarity. I am thinking about getting a behringer fcb but I just dont want the hassle of programming it right now... and I really cant afford it either... at this point I think I might prefer playing with other human beings... looking over previous mails... I must have missed Ricks mail. It was really very informative. I am thinking how I can go about replacing a loop in Ableton. I suppose I have to assign many controls to one midi switch with Midi Translator. Am 3/9/10 5:12 PM, schrieb Rafael Nunes: > I also found that my axiom49 was programmed to send an on/off message > everytime I pressed the sustain pedal. Whichever MIDI controller > you're using, make sure that you're setting your footswitch correctly > in the software editor. Also sometimes footwswitches have a polarity > switch that reverses their functioning. I had similar problems with > looper and in my case it turned out to be software related, but those > two are the main reasons you'd running into that problem. You'll > figure it out though, I literally almost broke my Axiom for a couple > of days beore figuring it out!! Again, if you want some song based > looping ideas, I do exactly that with covers and originals, as well as > jams(which i still try to give the air of composition, or at least > group improv, rather than loop based music): > http://www.sendspace.com/file/udzrhm The Ones(original) > http://www.sendspace.com/file/u9d6zj Fallin(De La Soul/Teenage Fan > Club Cover) > http://www.sendspace.com/file/4xd156 Book Of Right On(Joanna Newsom > Cover) > http://www.sendspace.com/file/rk9uhn Alef (Instrumental improv/jam) > http://www.sendspace.com/file/vcb55o Dublike(Instrumental improv/jam) > http://www.sendspace.com/file/bz4f3g Morning(Instrumental improv/jam) > http://www.sendspace.com/file/8i3a03 Evening(Instrumental improv/jam) > - Show quoted text - > > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Per Boysen > wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Nadia Salom > wrote: > (Ableton Live, Looper) > > Normally if I click once than it should it > > start recording, and if I click a second time it should continue > in playback > > modus. But instead sometimes it is undoing the latest recording > and then > > going into playback. And sometimes it records while the pedal is > down and > > then plays when the pedal is released. I am using a normal pedal > that was > > connected to my e-piano as a sustain pedal....? Is it the wrong > type of > > pedal...? > > Sustain pedals can sometimes be analog, i.e. sending an electric > pulse. Better would be to use a pedal that sends MIDI. Some MIDI > pedals can send many MIDI events at one button press and when that > happens it is just random luck if the right event arrives frist to the > software. If another event arrives first something else, or nothing, > will happen. > > You can use anything that sends MIDI if kicked, not necessarily a > dedicated pedalboard. I have an old MC303 here with buttons big > enough to be used as pedals. An old drum machine of any kind would do > fine if you can stomp the buttons. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Nadia Salom http://www.nirmala07.net http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 --------------050500050302090609080104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The problem happens only when I connect my foot pedals to akai apc40, if I connect to my korg midi keyboard it works fine... but I only have one connection for that. I think it must have something to do with the polarity. I am thinking about getting a behringer fcb but I just dont want the hassle of programming it right now... and I really cant afford it either... at this point I think I might prefer playing with other human beings...

looking over previous mails... I must have missed Ricks mail. It was really very informative. I am thinking how I can go about replacing a loop in Ableton. I suppose I have to assign many controls to one midi switch with Midi Translator.

Am 3/9/10 5:12 PM, schrieb Rafael Nunes:
I also found that my axiom49 was programmed to send an on/off message everytime I pressed the sustain pedal. Whichever MIDI controller you're using, make sure that you're setting your footswitch correctly in the software editor. Also sometimes footwswitches have a polarity switch that reverses their functioning. I had similar problems with looper and in my case it turned out to be software related, but those two are the main reasons you'd running into that problem. You'll figure it out though, I literally almost broke my Axiom for a couple of days beore figuring it out!! Again, if you want some song based looping ideas, I do exactly that with covers and originals, as well as jams(which i still try to give the air of composition, or at least group improv, rather than loop based music):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/udzrhm  The Ones(original)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/u9d6zj    Fallin(De La Soul/Teenage Fan Club Cover)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4xd156   Book Of Right On(Joanna Newsom Cover)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rk9uhn     Alef (Instrumental improv/jam)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vcb55o    Dublike(Instrumental improv/jam)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bz4f3g      Morning(Instrumental improv/jam)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8i3a03      Evening(Instrumental improv/jam)
- Show quoted text -


On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
(Ableton Live, Looper)
> Normally if I click once than it should it
> start recording, and if I click a second time it should continue in playback
> modus. But instead sometimes it is undoing the latest recording and then
> going into playback. And sometimes it records while the pedal is down and
> then plays when the pedal is released. I am using a normal pedal that was
> connected to my e-piano as a sustain pedal....? Is it the wrong type of
> pedal...?

Sustain pedals can sometimes be analog, i.e. sending an electric
pulse. Better would be to use a pedal that sends MIDI. Some MIDI
pedals can send many MIDI events at one button press and when that
happens it is just random luck if the right event arrives frist to the
software. If another event arrives first something else, or nothing,
will happen.

You can use anything that sends MIDI if kicked, not necessarily a
dedicated pedalboard. I have an old MC303 here  with buttons big
enough to be used as pedals. An old drum machine of any kind would do
fine if you can stomp the buttons.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




-- 
Nadia Salom
http://www.nirmala07.net
http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07
--------------050500050302090609080104-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 01:50:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC7803BE8A; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268185844; bh=mAPctgfUpWyAUx1J0Rs1/uor5wn2UsgqoTosTbgoj9c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YI+CmuecaWyyL3l/ywz0UUN757/H20omw9mf8+OJw0YGPpSzF8V5CBwZ1HevAQLihWeFaKLensKJrgV/KmD+wQymW+CQ0cDr3ouZfTikxasm2/E+HtYi5xBo8zIwNSJwWzaso5i1fBn09WobHiDlSm7IWAtFFuYxuPDRxtDxM/o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=co04NAhG9TAQS/jB4RgRuQNiWze1YdA2eISX6cWNDAuBUikvUqlyGwXR5Zyxsq+Ep53Pf8Bo5WSyyXyatav8yCsP0DNH29uUhxwEx/bFNsfpmhqgXenoeHhHqa+4eAqHqBjuFIkmrSPsQ+McKvAVgr6pzP7TgNL7oLOL6BzHjo4=; Message-ID: <419417.4030.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VYVEgd8VM1mAA667_SAYKWGesqLagniU3FJvp9zy.EFSQOK AAf.cP7Pwr1M6FQTGZL1ut14uXzUdyqIlokvx69lXXdCVMydaD.tzGDmhf8e I7Q1OmCkYIUTiJxHquM_4ErR1QCibLEmQNkCSSHe7nY80fG4YTETYVno3BSs O6m_vjOpQt8GVtu.jRrvQvO2eiaoVb9QNrzCy6sYBC5f1o4jRMcDqsCFTWWA yj8IZNrGMSApWn_yNBUtxpmYK3qv01cSXoBdKoUZi9CYoTxkplyex4MsZbd6 fr1ODI0ZbbJ0.UBcByX4Ss5zVAytVGe2bL1U.QXePjdQ.OqxsTl3lM8DLYN0 1GM2HvNFVhdjXHj7CN1XBW_dhcngtzRdZfAJh9Cgv X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:50:44 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Re: Release Spammage ... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2075843821-1268185844=:4030" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:50:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-2075843821-1268185844=:4030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nice sounds Dennis-Great job! --- On Sat, 3/6/10, Dennis Moser wrote: From: Dennis Moser Subject: Release Spammage ... To: "loopers-delight" Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 9:59 PM JustNotNormal has just released the second of a series twelve releases of live performances ... http://justnotnormal.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/jnn081-usrsbin-snow-moon/ ...there's even some loopage involved.It's free for the taking, enjoy. ~~ Dennis -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0-2075843821-1268185844=:4030 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Nice sounds Dennis-Great job!



--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
Subject: Release Spammage ...
To: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 9:59 PM

JustNotNormal has just released the second of a series twelve releases
of live performances ...
http://justnotnormal.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/jnn081-usrsbin-snow-moon/

...there's even some loopage involved.It's free for the taking, enjoy.

~~ Dennis

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Download a free gif= t for your PC. Ge= t personal with Windows. = --_60d8945d-b7cf-4101-addb-145e74590b4a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 05:24:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C1623BE93; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0C863548-A2CA-4815-9AE5-4B4C19C83698@wfubmc.edu> References: <0C863548-A2CA-4815-9AE5-4B4C19C83698@wfubmc.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:24:35 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <8crWjB.A.c9H.Y0ylLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:24:40 +0000 (UTC) At 12:39 PM -0500 3/6/10, Ace Ovil wrote: >On Mar 6, 2010, at 7:56 AM, "Mech" wrote: >> >>Anything in particular you want to know, though? > >Well. One of the things I'm curious about is whether this is >something I would want before or after my stereo edp setup in the >mixer. Depends on what kind of effect you're looking to achieve. Don't forget -- as effect chains go -- the last effect in the chain always leaves the greatest imprint on the signal. If you put the slicer last, then your whole mix will become a rhythmic pulse reflecting the current SL-20 settings. Also, you'll be limited to a single rhythm, since that's all the Slicer can control at one time. Conversely, if you put it before the EDP, you'll probably have finer control on the amount of the effect on each layer of overdubs. As an additional side-effect, you can build up polyrhythms inside the EDP. Just record a track using one setting on the SL-20, then reach down and change the setting on the Slicer before recording an overdub. Experiment with different rhythmic patterns and how they interplay with each other on successive overdubs. >How long is the loop? Is the inboard looper infinite overdub like an rc-20? The Looper is okay as an extra, but DO NOT buy the SL-20 on this feature alone. I would not compare it to the RC-20, or even the RC-2. In fact, it's really just the "Loop" preset from the Boss DD-20 (which is a setting that many of us see as barely useful). That said, the Looper is really just an add-on function so that a guitarist could lay down a sliced rhythmic backing, then solo over the top of it. There is *NO* overdub whatsoever, and in fact, once you kick in the Loop Playback most of the other functions become inactive so the whole thing reverts to being just a one-shot recorder. Just to be mind-numbingly clear here: you can not loop a "sliced" line then record or play any other effected/sliced part over the top of it, since all the Slicer functionality becomes completely inert once you start the Loop playing back. The box will be effectively frozen and will only pass the direct signal until the Loop stops. Also, the Loop function doesn't work at all if you've got the Start/Stop pedal set to "Momentary" mode (which can be kind of fun to tap-&-hold sliced lines interactively). So if you wanted to use both, you'd have to stop in the middle of what you're doing and reset the pedal using a series of button presses on reboot. Sucks as a Looper, I know, but it can be useful sometimes for recording a quick one-shot loop. It'll also function while recording only the direct signal, so that can be kind of handy in instances where you'd like to record a single line and you're not using the Slice function at all. And I guess it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. I just wouldn't make a buying decision based on that one function. <*shrug*> >Also , can you tell me a little about that stereo ping-pong thing? Stereo Ping-Pong is one of the output modes. It takes the output signal and routes it either hard-left or hard-right on each successive slice, so the pulsed signal "bounces" between each side of the stereo image. Nice for making your audience sea-sick at faster tempos. ;D Auto mode does roughly the same thing, but rather fades the sliced signal from left to right in time with the current tempo. 3D-Cross and 3D-Pan are the three-dimensional equivalents to the aforementioned two modes. the 3D modes add some EQ and psycho-acoustic stuff, so that the stereo movement occurs not only between the left and right, but also the front and back. 3D-Cross, like Ping-Pong, cleanly bounces the signal between left/right-front/back, while 3D-Pan does a smooth rotation through all directions: right to front to left to back to right, etc., etc. And, as Rick already mentioned, there is a Random mode, which bounces the slices back and forth in a completely arbitrary manner. Now as I've pointed out previously, any panning device can be turned into a Tremolo/Slicer merely by tapping only a single one of the two L/R outputs and running it in Mono. This is no different, and what I was talking about in my previous "Dummy Plug Trick" post. If you insert a null plug into one of the outputs (required in order to make the unit behave in Stereo mode; otherwise everything just sums to Mono internally), then you have what amounts to one Slicer running into a second Slicer. Sweet! Use this setup in Ping-Pong mode, and you'll get another(!) two variations on each of the 50 internal Patterns. This first variation only plays the odd-numbered (1st, 3rd, 5th...) rhythmic slices in a pattern, while the second only repeats the even (2nd, 4th, 6th...) slices. In Auto mode, this results in a sliced Pattern fading in and back out again. The 3D modes, of course, attempt to add front-to-back motion to each of these previous modes (sometimes it works; sometimes not so well). And of course, as Rick also pointed out, you can use the Random mode to add a tempo-locked pulse to your music. Since it's still outputting the chosen Pattern, it's not completely random, but instead a shifting variation on that Pattern. Find a Pattern that fits your music, then use this output trick to add "humanizing" variations to that Pattern. I'm not surprised that Rick hasn't had a chance to go through all the Patterns on the box, either. If you count that these output modes can each add a variation to the original Pattern, that's something like 19 variations each (Normal Mono, Normal Stereo, Single-Left and Single-Right Channel versions for every one of the 5 Output Modes). Multiply that times 5 Banks of 10 Patterns -- 50 Patterns in all -- and you're getting close to almost a thousand different variations. And that's not even counting that you can make each variation smoother or choppier by playing with the Attack and Duty (a.k.a. Slice Length) controls. Yeah, I think of the SL-20 -- like the DD-20 before it -- as another one of those Boss "sleeper" boxes. It sounds really dull on the surface. But once you start to dig a bit, its quirks start to come out. And many of those quirks are actually really interesting, and can be twisted for some amazing results. Try using it before your EDP and I think you've got hours of fun in store for you. Hope that helps.... :) --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 05:31:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C726B3BE91; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <0C863548-A2CA-4815-9AE5-4B4C19C83698@wfubmc.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:31:42 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:31:49 +0000 (UTC) At 12:39 PM -0500 3/6/10, Ace Ovil wrote: > >How long is the loop? D'oh! Forgot to directly answer this. 40 seconds. Apologies! :) --m. -- _____ "beyond this window, night is shuddering and the earth grinds to a halt beyond this window, something unknown is watching you and me...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 05:37:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6757F3BE97; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--18048309 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:37:24 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:37:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--18048309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark sprach: > Isnt that Fireworlds (of which Bill spoke) patch a bit Eclipsish Per sprach: Yes, I definitely agree to that! I do remember that preset, a harmonizer set to a fourth or a fifth up with a feedback loop that makes sound climb upwards with each loop. I overdosed this in the eighties and that sound still gives me unpleasant flashbacks. Yuk. ;-)) Funny Per, I feel that way about most envelope followers and filters, though I've been getting in to formant filters as of late. I do occasionally use a triggered wah sound,though its eq'd really dark with very little opening of the filter. That funky wow wow sound reminds me of the 70's and 80's and not in a good way, in a bad haircut band with silly name kind of way, and I play in a funk band on a regular basis!!. I don't even own a wah pedal right now though I'm looking for one that has really wide sweep, doesn't add gain and distortion and responds more like a clean synth filter. I might have to break down and buy a moog filter with an expression port instead. I understand what you are saying though as both that string patch effect that the space station is famous for and the whammy effect have been done to death. However someone can always come along and do something fresh with these effects. I've modified this patch so much that it doesn't resemble the original Fireworlds patch much at all. actually I have three patches with variations, As i mentioned before I sync both the two pitch shifts and the tap delay (which has been edited from 6 taps to two taps simply by turning down they other taps), to the clock from my Looperlative. I like using 1/4 note against dotted 1/8 ths and 1/2 notes against dotted 1/4 notes depending on the length of my first loop which determines the tempo sent to the Fireworx. I like octaves, up an octave and down and octave at the same time, the best. And I turn the regeneration of the pitch shifts way down so I avoid that rising or lowering cascading pitch effect. I like fading the effect in with the expression pedal after I've hit a note or chord and use quantize replace to capture predetermined subdivisions of the loop. It allows me to create sequencer style percolating parts that because of the octave up and down pitch combination it sounds very close to an organ timbre. actually better to my ears and more fresh than any guitar synth organ patch I was ever able to use. I have at least 5 or 6 parameters being continuously controlled by the one ex pedal so in toe down position I have only the reverb on, at half way I bring in the delay and at toe down position the pitch effect comes in, the reverb mix increases slightly and both the delay's regeneration and the reverb's decay time increase subtley. This is a far cry from the effect of which you speak, more organic sounding than parallel 4ths and 5ths and more useable, though I do occasionally use those intervals but in poly rhythmic way with-ought any regeneration. It can really make one guitar sound like its doing the work of two or three if you lock in right. I also like using 9ths, or 5th up and 4th down bouncing from one interval to they other. Bill --Apple-Mail-1--18048309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark sprach:
Isnt that Fireworlds (of which Bill = spoke) patch a bit Eclipsish
Per sprach:
Yes, I definitely agree to = that! I do remember that preset, a
harmonizer set to a fourth or a = fifth up with a feedback loop that
makes sound climb upwards with = each loop. I overdosed this in the
eighties and that sound still = gives me unpleasant flashbacks. = Yuk.
;-))
Funny Per, I feel that way about most envelope = followers and filters, though I've been getting in to formant filters as = of late. I do occasionally use a triggered wah sound,though its eq'd = really dark with very little opening of the filter. That funky wow wow = sound reminds me of the 70's and 80's and not in a good way, in a bad = haircut band with silly name kind of way, and I play in a funk band on a = regular basis!!. I don't even own a wah pedal right now though I'm = looking for one that has really wide sweep, doesn't add gain and = distortion and responds more like a clean synth filter. I might have to = break down and buy a moog filter with an expression port instead. I = understand what you are saying though as both that string patch effect = that the space station is famous for and the whammy effect have been = done to death. However someone can always come along and do something = fresh with these effects.
   I've modified = this patch so much that it doesn't resemble the original Fireworlds = patch much at all. actually I have three patches with variations, As i = mentioned before I sync both the two pitch shifts and the tap delay = (which has been edited from 6 taps to two taps simply by turning down = they other taps), to the clock from my Looperlative. I like using 1/4 = note against dotted 1/8 ths and 1/2 notes against dotted 1/4 notes = depending on the length of my first loop which determines the tempo sent = to the Fireworx. I like octaves, up an octave and down and octave at the = same time, the best.  And  I turn the regeneration of the = pitch shifts way down so I avoid that rising or lowering  cascading = pitch effect. I like fading the effect in with the expression pedal = after I've hit a note or chord and use quantize replace to capture = predetermined subdivisions of the loop. It allows me to create sequencer = style percolating parts that because of the octave up and down pitch = combination it sounds very close to an organ timbre. actually better to = my ears and more fresh than any guitar synth organ patch I was ever able = to use.  I have at least 5 or 6 parameters being continuously = controlled by the one ex pedal so in toe down position I have only the = reverb on,  at half way I bring in the delay and at toe down = position the pitch effect comes in, the reverb mix increases slightly = and both the delay's regeneration and the reverb's decay time increase = subtley. This is a far cry from the effect of which you speak, more = organic sounding than parallel 4ths and 5ths and more useable, though I = do occasionally use those intervals but in  poly rhythmic way = with-ought any regeneration. It can really make one guitar sound like = its doing the work of two or three if you lock in right. I also like = using 9ths,  or 5th up and 4th down bouncing from one interval to = they other.
Bill

= --Apple-Mail-1--18048309-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 07:03:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03F1D3BE91; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B974450.8030507@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:03:44 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20 Slicer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Mech wrote: Wonderful review of the Boss SL-20 SLICER. You really did it justice (and thanks for your original suggestion to me that I insensitively failed to name-check in my own review...........I use it all the time and was very happy you taught me that trick. I do feel compelled to qualify one thing you said however, in the interest of accuracy..... you wrote: /"Depends on what kind of effect you're looking to achieve. Don't forget -- as effect chains go -- the last effect in the chain always leaves the greatest imprint on the signal./ / *_If y__ou put the slicer last, then your whole mix will become a rhythmic pulse reflecting the current SL-20 settings."_*/ With all due respect, Duke, this last sentence is not accurate when talking about the Boss Slicer, specifically because it has an onboard , two knob mixing function (one volume control for rhythmic effect-one volume control for unaffected signal) This function is wonderful and I wish more effects pedals had such a thing on it: That's why I love it so much, because I can have any mix of rhythmic slice effect and original signal and yet put it last (or almost last, before my distortion/wah configuration) in my chain. You sort of get the best of both worlds which is not true about most effects pedals. Okay, thanks for all your wrote. I've learned many things from you, my friend. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 07:34:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33D523BE91; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {616B6E7D-E27F-4C7E-A934-15D4711603ED} x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AJT/ A+XU BBFV BNEi CQJQ Du1d Ei2B FA0L FDtb FIgV HTeU Hn2Z H6KN JRwl J36F K1eC;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{616B6E7D-E27F-4C7E-A934-15D4711603ED};YQBvAHYAaQBsAEAAdwBmAHUAYgBtAGMALgBlAGQAdQA=;Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:13:55 GMT;UgBFADoAIABBAG4AeQBvAG4AZQAgAG0AZQBzAHMAZQBkACAAYQByAG8AdQBuAGQAIAB3AGkAdABoACAAdABoAGUAIABCAG8AcwBzACAAUwBMAC0AMgAwAD8A Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:13:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? Thread-Index: AcrAEf8RpsCvoIaeRkG1lB6gmOkk2gADs+/A References: <0C863548-A2CA-4815-9AE5-4B4C19C83698@wfubmc.edu> From: "Ace Ovil" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Thank you. =20 Some solid reasoning there. It sounds fabulous and for what it costs, I can't hesitate any longer.=20 Just pulled the trigger on one and will report back on how it gels with a stereo EDP as soon as I explore it a bit. Thank you again, Ace =20 -----Original Message----- From: Mech [mailto:mech@m3ch.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:25 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anyone messed around with the Boss SL-20? At 12:39 PM -0500 3/6/10, Ace Ovil wrote: >On Mar 6, 2010, at 7:56 AM, "Mech" wrote: >> >>Anything in particular you want to know, though? > >Well. One of the things I'm curious about is whether this is=20 >something I would want before or after my stereo edp setup in the=20 >mixer. Depends on what kind of effect you're looking to achieve. Don't=20 forget -- as effect chains go -- the last effect in the chain always=20 leaves the greatest imprint on the signal. If you put the slicer=20 last, then your whole mix will become a rhythmic pulse reflecting the=20 current SL-20 settings. Also, you'll be limited to a single rhythm,=20 since that's all the Slicer can control at one time. Conversely, if you put it before the EDP, you'll probably have finer=20 control on the amount of the effect on each layer of overdubs. As an=20 additional side-effect, you can build up polyrhythms inside the EDP.=20 Just record a track using one setting on the SL-20, then reach down=20 and change the setting on the Slicer before recording an overdub.=20 Experiment with different rhythmic patterns and how they interplay=20 with each other on successive overdubs. >How long is the loop? Is the inboard looper infinite overdub like an rc-20? The Looper is okay as an extra, but DO NOT buy the SL-20 on this=20 feature alone. I would not compare it to the RC-20, or even the=20 RC-2. In fact, it's really just the "Loop" preset from the Boss=20 DD-20 (which is a setting that many of us see as barely useful). That said, the Looper is really just an add-on function so that a=20 guitarist could lay down a sliced rhythmic backing, then solo over=20 the top of it. There is *NO* overdub whatsoever, and in fact, once=20 you kick in the Loop Playback most of the other functions become=20 inactive so the whole thing reverts to being just a one-shot=20 recorder. Just to be mind-numbingly clear here: you can not loop a=20 "sliced" line then record or play any other effected/sliced part over=20 the top of it, since all the Slicer functionality becomes completely=20 inert once you start the Loop playing back. The box will be=20 effectively frozen and will only pass the direct signal until the=20 Loop stops. Also, the Loop function doesn't work at all if you've got the=20 Start/Stop pedal set to "Momentary" mode (which can be kind of fun to=20 tap-&-hold sliced lines interactively). So if you wanted to use=20 both, you'd have to stop in the middle of what you're doing and reset=20 the pedal using a series of button presses on reboot. Sucks as a Looper, I know, but it can be useful sometimes for=20 recording a quick one-shot loop. It'll also function while recording=20 only the direct signal, so that can be kind of handy in instances=20 where you'd like to record a single line and you're not using the=20 Slice function at all. And I guess it's better to have it and not=20 need it, than need it and not have it. I just wouldn't make a buying=20 decision based on that one function. <*shrug*> >Also , can you tell me a little about that stereo ping-pong thing? Stereo Ping-Pong is one of the output modes. It takes the output=20 signal and routes it either hard-left or hard-right on each=20 successive slice, so the pulsed signal "bounces" between each side of=20 the stereo image. Nice for making your audience sea-sick at faster=20 tempos. ;D Auto mode does roughly the same thing, but rather fades the sliced=20 signal from left to right in time with the current tempo. 3D-Cross and 3D-Pan are the three-dimensional equivalents to the=20 aforementioned two modes. the 3D modes add some EQ and=20 psycho-acoustic stuff, so that the stereo movement occurs not only=20 between the left and right, but also the front and back. 3D-Cross,=20 like Ping-Pong, cleanly bounces the signal between=20 left/right-front/back, while 3D-Pan does a smooth rotation through=20 all directions: right to front to left to back to right, etc., etc. And, as Rick already mentioned, there is a Random mode, which bounces=20 the slices back and forth in a completely arbitrary manner. Now as I've pointed out previously, any panning device can be turned=20 into a Tremolo/Slicer merely by tapping only a single one of the two=20 L/R outputs and running it in Mono. This is no different, and what I=20 was talking about in my previous "Dummy Plug Trick" post. If you insert a null plug into one of the outputs (required in order=20 to make the unit behave in Stereo mode; otherwise everything just=20 sums to Mono internally), then you have what amounts to one Slicer=20 running into a second Slicer. Sweet! Use this setup in Ping-Pong mode, and you'll get another(!) two=20 variations on each of the 50 internal Patterns. This first variation=20 only plays the odd-numbered (1st, 3rd, 5th...) rhythmic slices in a=20 pattern, while the second only repeats the even (2nd, 4th, 6th...)=20 slices. In Auto mode, this results in a sliced Pattern fading in and back out=20 again. The 3D modes, of course, attempt to add front-to-back motion=20 to each of these previous modes (sometimes it works; sometimes not so=20 well). And of course, as Rick also pointed out, you can use the Random mode=20 to add a tempo-locked pulse to your music. Since it's still=20 outputting the chosen Pattern, it's not completely random, but=20 instead a shifting variation on that Pattern. Find a Pattern that=20 fits your music, then use this output trick to add "humanizing"=20 variations to that Pattern. I'm not surprised that Rick hasn't had a chance to go through all the=20 Patterns on the box, either. If you count that these output modes=20 can each add a variation to the original Pattern, that's something=20 like 19 variations each (Normal Mono, Normal Stereo, Single-Left and=20 Single-Right Channel versions for every one of the 5 Output Modes).=20 Multiply that times 5 Banks of 10 Patterns -- 50 Patterns in all --=20 and you're getting close to almost a thousand different variations.=20 And that's not even counting that you can make each variation=20 smoother or choppier by playing with the Attack and Duty (a.k.a.=20 Slice Length) controls. Yeah, I think of the SL-20 -- like the DD-20 before it -- as another=20 one of those Boss "sleeper" boxes. It sounds really dull on the=20 surface. But once you start to dig a bit, its quirks start to come=20 out. And many of those quirks are actually really interesting, and=20 can be twisted for some amazing results. Try using it before your=20 EDP and I think you've got hours of fun in store for you. Hope that helps.... :) --m. --=20 _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of=20 murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 08:29:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FFB23BE93; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 561 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:29:50 UTC DomainKey-Signature: s=mta; d=unyk.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=Received:Message-Id:Subject:From:To:Date:Reply-To: Return-Path:Sender:List-Unsubscribe:X-CE-MailKey: X-UnykUnsub:MIME-version:Content-Type; b=Eu+M+HFMX0xR8tAEoAwA10UaDOKg7tr0x3DIhtacKPrc4Z+ekju3h 5aTPSs22CKWZQZshBQTj+bnD/f/BYXKg7r4Q4zRhWLDTVV/WliV7w Z4kFWXYRHfCgXC5hOdPns2; Message-Id: <7plag0$1aq59cl@ironport-b.unyk.com> Subject: Invito personale da Massimiliano Liverani From: "Massimiliano Liverani" To: "" Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:20:28 -0400 Reply-To: mas.liv@libero.it Sender: UNYK List-Unsubscribe: X-CE-MailKey: it-IT-0059 X-UnykUnsub: bG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20= MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="AlternativeBoundary.22222222.22222222" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:29:51 +0000 (UTC) --AlternativeBoundary.22222222.22222222 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Se non conoscete Massimiliano Liverani, ignorate questa e-mail. 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--AlternativeBoundary.22222222.22222222-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 08:56:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B041A3BE94; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1268211417; l=6998; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To: From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=T6kA/3VurILO9pXBXa4TcXiuQX4=; b=gzGOjYTghC0gtGOHzKVaIXkGsA/fK2tR+wnA0roeNURFaQVEXSy+6AzPnzrqBPvqK3U Kqy3OiDtg/NlUiO3+LEEi/emHi8gekCrtoMNqzq18QXuCgrbi8cEn/WnLVaoHf7kgYy+b u3S0ZVckyd28viOZPll2hhVNzcTDQjYVgUw= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvumSDR1VBGg== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <2DD1B49D78F34DA89429A8ABF7F940F4@Christojota> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Pat Metheney-Orchestrion-tour Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:05:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D8_01CAC030.E3779A70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01CAC030.E3779A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Pat Metheney-Orchestrion-tourIn the beginning there was a delay of = about 20 minutes. The promoter said they had to do a reset of the system = (!?). So I believe it=B4s not an easy to handle apparature. Christo From: Charles Zwicky=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Pat Metheney-Orchestrion-tour It's quite a contraption. I spoke with Pat at his wife's art gallery = near my home here in NYC. Pat said that the piano has 500ms of = latency... The Orchestrion is quite a tough "axe" to master..!! Last saturday I=B4ve been at a show of Pat Metheney=B4s Orchestrion. = (K=F6ln,Germany - Philharmonie) Very funny. He had a lot of instruments (drums, percussion, piano, = vibraphone,bass) in a big wall of shelves behind him. It looked like a "toys r us" store. = Pat "Alice" in wonderland. The instruments were hit/played by magic ghosts (computers). And it = all was a big orchestral sound of a ghost band. Some good moments, some no good = ones. After playing 2 longer solo-acoustic guitar pieces (good), he = performed his new album with the ghost-band (not good mainly, few feeling). The more interesting part for me was the encores, where he used a lot = of looping and also some string-sounds with the guitar and midi-playing with the = Orchestrion instruments. His looping device was quite a big one with pedals looking like = organ-bass-pedals. Maybe a special custom looper made for Metheney!? Don=B4t know. Metheney made some vague explanations of the technical side of his = Orchestrion,(the roots of this are somewhere in the beginning of the last century in Germany), which was sympathetic and gave the whole thing "a not too serious = character". Like I said : A little boy in toyland. So this was helpful and entertaining. Otherwise it would have been a = bit boring and too statically night. But all in all I liked it and could enjoy at = least half of the show. Christo www.christojota.de --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky ------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01CAC030.E3779A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Pat Metheney-Orchestrion-tour
In the beginning there was a delay of about 20 = minutes.=20 The promoter said they had to do a reset of the system = (!?).
So I believe it=B4s not an easy to handle=20 apparature.
Christo

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Pat Metheney-Orchestrion-tour

It's quite a contraption.   I spoke with Pat at his = wife's art=20 gallery near my home here in NYC.  Pat said that the piano has = 500ms of=20 latency...  The Orchestrion is quite a tough "axe" to = master..!!

Last saturday I=B4ve been at a show = of Pat=20 Metheney=B4s Orchestrion. (K=F6ln,Germany - Philharmonie)
Very funny. He had a lot of = instruments=20 (drums, percussion, piano, vibraphone,bass) in
a big wall of shelves behind him. It = looked=20 like a "toys r us" store. Pat "Alice" in wonderland.
The instruments were hit/played by = magic=20 ghosts (computers). And it all was a big
orchestral sound of a ghost band. = Some good=20 moments, some no good ones.
After playing 2  longer = solo-acoustic=20 guitar pieces (good), he performed his new album
with the ghost-band (not good = mainly, few=20 feeling).
The more interesting part for me was = the=20 encores, where he used a lot of looping
and also some string-sounds with the = guitar=20 and midi-playing with the Orchestrion instruments.
His looping device was quite a big = one with=20 pedals looking like organ-bass-pedals. Maybe a
special custom looper made for = Metheney!?=20 Don=B4t know.
Metheney made some vague = explanations of the=20 technical side of his Orchestrion,(the roots of
this are somewhere in the = beginning of=20 the last century in Germany),
which was sympathetic and gave the = whole thing=20 "a not too serious character".
Like I said : A little boy in=20 toyland.
So this was helpful and = entertaining.=20 Otherwise it would have been a bit boring and
too statically night. But all in all = I liked=20 it and could enjoy at least half of the show.
Christo
www.christojota.de
 


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------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01CAC030.E3779A70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 10:05:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1FEE3BE97; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 360628459/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.234.7/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.234.7 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBANb9lktPRuoH/2dsb2JhbAAH2BuEeQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,613,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="360628459" Message-ID: <4B976EE2.50706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:05:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: MF-101 mini review OT References: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:05:19 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > I might have to break down and buy a moog > filter with an expression port instead. MoogerFooger MF-101 plus points:- It's a Moog low pass filter, the high quality is very noticeable as you turn the resonance up. No distortion like in other filters. Works with a standard (Boss type) expression pedal. Can be used as a basic speaker simulator. Volume is compensated as resonance is increased. Can be overdriven..very warm un-fizzy sound even in bypass. Outputs the Envelope voltage on 1/4in jack (as well as other Moog stuff, this could be used to control other gear, like any new Electro Harmonix pedal with an expression input) The self oscillation of the filter sounds very nice indeed, and controllable. Resale value is high. just points:- all knobs apart from input Vol can also be "turned" with control voltage inputs (or exp ped):- Amount( of envelope) Mix (dry wet) Cut off Freq, Resonance. selectable between 2-pole and 4-pole (2-pole just lets a few more highs through above the resonant frequency) wall wart minus points:- no way to control output level for gain staging, input level has to be set to make the envelope follower work right, and any overdrive used can't be compensated. Hence the output level is essentially fixed at "quite high for a guitar amp but not that high for line level". I use it in the fx loop of an ADA MP1 which solves that problem. Envelope follower is rather subtle compared to, say, the Electro Harmonix units. There's no separate input to the Env follower so there's no way to get a big envelope response with a highly distorted guitar tone. (maybe that's a plus ;-) Bypass has a sound to it, some of the top end is lost (compared to going direct to a studio quality DI). This *is* quite a subtle change in sound, not as much as a Boss pedal. Actually, it's rather a nice sound in it's own right, which will overdrive to give a hint of "Moog". Although this is advertised as a "2 complete moog modules" the filter is not 1V/octave and no separate input for envelope. No schematic available from Moog for repairs/mods, and they'll tell you that they're right for making that decision. (in UK, the official service agency is overpriced for repairs) Moog email tech support (Ryan)is great if you put just one question. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 10:14:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BD8C3BEA0; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 358209122/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.234.7/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.234.7 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAHv/lktPRuoH/2dsb2JhbAAH2C+EeQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,613,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="358209122" Message-ID: <4B9770FD.30906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:14:21 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! References: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:14:17 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > like a clean synth filter. Maybe there's one of those buried in the Line 6 multi-fx you use. Don't know about the particular model you have, but the Filter Pro has a "Parked Wah" which can be used with an expression pedal. It has a Low Pass option, and lets you pick settings of frequency, resonance, and (usefully) gain for each end of the pedal travel. andy butler From hmsanita11@mrgarymoorer.net Wed Mar 10 11:32:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from web1207.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web1207.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.14.54]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BA913BE8E for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27931 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2010 11:32:32 -0000 Message-ID: <778783.26718.qm@web1207.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: v7a5wr8VM1kQzbeI.f6jJ.QooHSQLOeyZrAEZcagbDCqDEj iT92f2hRM_XN61L1YvYB8SvRqtELrz2xL5iBzbLmq0.KFrBiX5i643AsmE3h V1A0ZWnJDjPsbe6Y7zCZnxBwohjqpgLln7eEdxfs3K044EGQ2bDUehzrIzjr dOPxW75GSTa.2AVuwFvNMhGETGjY7g7jeJSueuIRKlY72d0jZCSOsqPLgU6L sNKQIGBt6LtJbkoLO8TLpiY6jrGFw3nRjh4sovo2dwrimHh8tPSKq3rd39T3 ET31Oz2.KquuHnJosDGhM5jAlqkpuXzv3w2SU0d58h65VPX5mReUF20.E0ZT YwMebbVmLrg_SOl3D0C0wy7YJH0FCpgy3C1rsNZo1QKCka6LuLQX1SVaGASf .0x4TQqdshGIk85MTmhDmVuVqsn11W.kN5aFKIgfXLn_cHJiw6fB7Ih70KLK BgKR0Nn5SYzvmSKLigmFjCOXtfpEQTt5gIjujsiObv2hNNxv6zNRhDyAKN8K TharxSIk5116xvTOVXcSYuCE5Fm35kawylfmmhGlS_qDfYJ.8NGI__shSd5m OibNLrz4iNMKGU.UErAI18n2sOQqni2LP9KnlolPGI5IIh4PmGw1BLyOQ8xX 8pAuEGJJ8GDf7gH9a95RqeLKUtiHu_naQtbAtbbvKFmOvBK9rOBdA_tJFt1Z jJZ5z7L6ZC5WXx42bTisc.YpmKVpaLB0Q7scGVtymZR3RLgaw2u0vdU_1_0H J1uvIg0brgbM97IjzSZysL3ikvcj6QRAvmlGtzuWechRZgXpoVeS4kkaKktT l6nAqPRH.tCLJfXNCiwFDB7pfLj420QVOv3UB33TCKYIfwQ3OseRNClM3_M. 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Do you actually know the Ukrainian (Tartar) tap guitar player Enver Izmailov (Izmaylov)? I have never seen anyone play like him with his unique, non-Stanley-Jordan two-handed tap-style guitar playing... Blew me completely away. Thought could be interesting to listen to... Here is an example, with some looping: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoJmKoinEKc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enver_%C4%B0zmaylov Anyone else know him? best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 13:17:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DA1E3BE97; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bKwe0rilk70KkkKBoFAsCYhcFUQYdB/Ep1CV/o7/rqs=; b=SB9s5Xa10raltgG/4RcqxJt7/s3xSGX2NgJjfybWMzbDnByNtuVMmzwo+YVbNStW+B woRHzQvo2Csnm/OcSdUMVFm7ChENxohQUsuPgnCjwIJnnhTQriPQ/ZRLIYTHlYyJSzQf Jotogl3/5xlZYaJKXvWbKicsmIV37KUaI4vV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Zi6wuRUvsq8Ow8GLAGdWXzAJv5jW0eUQl55i9xavPefuboeZSokEEXx64EaI+89hYt KJkCkyL9Ue+nlBnPEMgojYN/5gxxyKjdzinpWWJzfx8/GD54x739NgfE/lvS/ETSuiF4 PvkdyufXmaVBFjoHd5cYvVllA+Cn3CRv5YISI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:17:17 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <5XGjCD.A.ikE.jv5lLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Awesome, Buzzie! (and others interested...:-) Love that oboe like tone he plays with at during looping part. Speaking about tapping, I also like this Beatles cover Greg Howard did on the Stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCXjEIQANes I think Greg makes great use of the Stick having two separate outputs for both sides of the fretboard. Check out how well he plays with a tap delay on the bass side and chorus vs dist on the melody side. A nice thing, that attracts me, with the Stick is that it allows you to make a helluvalottanoise without the need for putting some parts into a looper. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, wrote: > Hi Per (and others interested... :-) > > now that you've picked up the Chapman stick... > Do you actually know the Ukrainian (Tartar) tap guitar player Enver Izmailov (Izmaylov)? > > I have never seen anyone play like him with his unique, non-Stanley-Jordan two-handed tap-style guitar playing... Blew me completely away. > Thought could be interesting to listen to... > > Here is an example, with some looping: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoJmKoinEKc > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enver_%C4%B0zmaylov > > Anyone else know him? > > best regards > Buzap From dilassine1@sify.com Wed Mar 10 15:40:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from web114313.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web114313.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.183.67]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 070113BE8E for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86085 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2010 15:40:11 -0000 Message-ID: <28561.58843.qm@web114313.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0.cVsJcVM1nAkuIDN8G7bvBd0Ihtjq97Jn3gF7EEuV1XDLC Nzzz1QL9uXBI1NeGWO7ABUacWqWFi2N.HLMtP8JYTZgJR4NqJmsg2f.xfDFs pZcRqBam2VWG5ez78b6rmR_tdIJIi6_CNAhOZcJqJVumk7t44.OaL0NV3.Y2 FS8KgSdqBwi9WcFiZeWEmSavG5l2d6fqNd5NHktJ8OPFf3u3f6IqUHIcpZfd Zbm9exPovRXxiLRamajBXcaQIP4HUFtB31X66N5FeEYY0uNX.aPn5d1Xj87Y vYdlQT7MKdSvluQKGtQz2QcVhoqw3YZ_4U.fYpM5OB1h0rAgOCMtoCsYwVDf iI773A9fxi52kGgLxutbO7lnZ5GQSRzfJMYhK9xyuJRheYj0dMDzZNSMfpF6 FtPje5f3.kfK5MF4AteRqMI17KTQMJlxVn9i_858TvctP9EHDzT1fS7bQ5gy ovRw__RJl9qv.D0FHZRnez.hIoq2NOZiwjMeKFDHrUPN55_CjShXCDhQBoJZ ZvojKrMicnAwtvnWpTLEEeECGwadNTHNtVlOOJpLDPeIkwYSNo9m6bRVz1a9 uI3v0gOlFH1k_xb_No_.NQ8Dp.qhLxRbcxu02Uw63J1MYK15KIad_6pYh.6h JtJswAtrXUle9CK2BDi66ne2xI5x4rfck1Fpbqgcar6pRSboxVsl3kMJCL2p pSGSNtIyedjG_WTc9X4p9N6HtidVQm7qjnmIVSdG1w4h2pkshq8oMbBRyncb Hmxh45SUo4pC4vzZ9xKK5i9CgS_REJhJsMWKLgGsOCIY48qbePjcsQIzLBSU ZceL2aUCcs5h27lc_LPwwIrE1x.wIWwmVk7YnCC79rUS9Ou6XLmY6f.b0XuA 7f.GDMD6wDF_QFqitNosF7L90WXCM5scEwNCPYQx1YxoTHps7jn4BxFdHpNQ rTdOiZR3jSH5VR7pzsCjAElaat0YvdtlI8C8qMDvKMH3gcM6C9qZInYUrs8O sACYf_WNIdtGdgU0NJE7MZE.dCwpurSPbR0QT4h04SLf4Cm4YnMBMLyCmkgD lseCmU7hvsjoz_SrpKG3oMyntsqvoYlmmtN1NXryLYYrWUSyaE23rE8D68_i SiEdSB4aGUwKqwjLO54ZBqTwCPbuyD__SFPRye1PZxA-- Received: from [41.203.239.44] by web114313.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:40:10 PST X-RocketYMMF: fghiabcde@y7mail.com X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:40:10 -0800 (PST) From: MR LASSINE DIAWARA Reply-To: mrlassine.diawara@yahoo.com Subject: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-691788286-1268235610=:58843" --0-691788286-1268235610=:58843 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FROM=A0 MR LASSINE DIAWARA BANK=A0 OF AFRICA( B.O.A )=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 BURKINAFASO W/AFRICA=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0 This message might meet you in utmost surprise. 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FROM  MR LASSINE DIAWARA
BANK  OF AFRICA( B.O.A )     &nb= sp;            =       
BURKINAFASO W/AFRICA     =
 
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Thank you,
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=0A= =0A=0A=0A   --0-691788286-1268235610=:58843-- From shaunfowler2000@gmail.com Wed Mar 10 16:04:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 160011 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:04:15 UTC Received: from p15171855.pureserver.info (p15171855.pureserver.info [82.165.36.38]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093483BE90 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25041 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2010 12:31:43 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (121.10.163.50) by p15171855.pureserver.info with SMTP; 8 Mar 2010 12:31:43 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Shaun Fowler" Subject: Hello Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:31:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20100310160415.093483BE90@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hello, I am Mr. Shaun Fowler, a Private Investment Manager; I am getting in touch with you regarding the estate of Alfred A. Wilbert an investment placed under my management over 10 years ago. I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this email confidential. In 1998, the subject matter; Alfred engaged me in business discussions, He informed me that he had a finance portfolio 8.35 million GBP, he wished to have me invest on his behalf, on my advice, we spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins, accrued profit and interest stood at this point at over 10.5 million GBP. In mid 2002, he instructed that his investment be liquidated; he needed to make an urgent investment requiring cash payments in China. We got in touch with a specialist security company in China who agreed to receive this money for a fee and make cash available to Alfred. However security got in touch with me last year that this money has not been claimed. On further enquiries I found out that Alfred was involved in an accident in Mainland China and died intestate. He has no next of kin, What I propose is that since I have exclusive access to his file, you will be made the beneficiary of funds. I would contact Specialist Security Company that money has been willed to you. On verification, which will be the details I make available to the bank, the bank will instruct its remittance department to make payments to you. You do not have to have known him. I know this might be a bit heavy for you but please trust me on this. For all your troubles I propose that we split the money in half. In the banking circle this happens every time, nobody is getting hurt; this is a lifetime opportunity for us. I hold the KEY to these funds, I am a family man; I have a wife and children. I send you this mail not without fear as to the consequences, but I know within me that nothing ventured is nothing gained and that success and riches never come easy or on a platter of gold. Please do not betray my confidence, if we can be of one accord, we should act swiftly on this. Write back to me so that I can instruct you on how we may proceed. Yours truly, Shaun Fowler. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 16:56:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D640E3BE97; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DJ5aQx58MGMzaP397TbxkFjHA7wNbHbCU5elPFPDdJg=; b=o9X+Z6rhI0dbZVP5a+tTe8LMtGKYgBHXt2+kWl05ieENiySItZoUDcWKs58tHYzqJY 4lc61TbnH51mngCe7ydcvJSOHokh/6pVq7eZr0Lh/zZXLKxk7Fas9UtAsRXuuq6l2gE+ BS+8rmhVpD4miUefKzDdZ2OpZbYc8L/c/VB18= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ioChBD1Wgl5mr/85tIfa4k1Qjxur8paLbk7r/Hm0ycJ4FGSa/wtN0J1rRnbJplgQOh ueqnZ+rqGdVbdlxN+pb8R1gaVnnYO4IZTkrghM/KqHk9y1TnRhzXzUFyAcYjtsRVrN+5 evXW66N3M8BohUYFIa4ilCSoXkE0CtIBgANQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:56:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325557e1e0bb2ae0481752d6b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:56:16 +0000 (UTC) --000325557e1e0bb2ae0481752d6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > I have never seen anyone play like him with his unique, non-Stanley-Jordan > two-handed tap-style guitar playing... Blew me completely away. > Why you said so ? It seems to me the same Stanley Jordan tapping approach (except for the "violin" sound) > Thought could be interesting to listen to... yes, thanks. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com --000325557e1e0bb2ae0481752d6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have never seen anyone pla= y like him with his unique, non-Stanley-Jordan two-handed tap-style guitar = playing... Blew me completely away.
Why you said so ?
It seems to me the same Stanley Jordan tapping approach (except for th= e "violin" sound)
=A0
Thought could be interesting to = listen to...
=A0
yes, thanks.
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--000325557e1e0bb2ae0481752d6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 17:07:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CA563BE91; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MMxIMuv8tlrgBa1BXaPGSCsJiQnMnFAdgC4UDhxyUUY=; b=g0g4nf/ZKQYok7tNMSTVcVpEJi0ZOCKKM7PQB2QKqPhlU23XQiCJHOXR031jtWeVq5 mDEAwYhbKvXR70sbRU673JoGXJR/JyEgV6vuQ2jpPoq0MIrT3oTTe3RLVFMvG7794d4j UHmZrOZALyt0v3wMWTfj+VRiQUXOsIqkH6PM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=G1sXII8AVvm+zSw1l/yH2u0LClKGog6yAwwDjeUJSpg/NXbP+krHMy73Gh/Ko5kqNv +dkwsRGO5MzQ/pRXAUpSynfbKBVXysz8MSR3Z9qpAxqmQg1uDuXUA9AdcdCwjjVl9JLN CuI/6nArrg+0rGo18CGwA3gnbHhYJtNWEIwbc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:07:48 -0500 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b1003100907p44e605bfkd1a0a1f3a6f37fc1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Slicer examples online.. From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Sorry I'm at work and didn't have time to read everyone's mail on the subject. But, I did remember I had some Boss Slicer examples online. There all mixed into one mp3. Nothing fancy, made this for someone last time the subject came up and should have shared it then: http://andy-garber.com/audio/SlicerSamples_mixdown.mp3 The Slicer in this exp is inline w/ my guitar rig which is through the mixer to the EDP. Also I believe I have the midi out to the slicer keeping them in time. I have thought about putting after the EDP but, don't see how I would use it much, cause I like to keep a pretty big beat going most of the time. Andy G From anonymous@sms-sextreff.de Wed Mar 10 18:09:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 41966 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:09:01 UTC Received: from sms-sextreff.de (server8324611231.serverpool.info [83.246.112.31]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 155593BE90 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8269 invoked by uid 33); 10 Mar 2010 02:17:23 -0000 Date: 10 Mar 2010 02:17:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20100310021723.8268.qmail@sms-sextreff.de> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Attention: This is Important , Please get Back To Me From: Michael Young and Associates Reply-To: m_young18@live.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 19:32:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19E843BE94; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-32074716 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:32:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:32:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-32074716 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "I have at least 5 or 6 parameters being continuously controlled by the one ex pedal so in toe down position I have only the reverb on," oops i did it again.. what I meant to say was in the heal down position I have only the reverb on, I might add that for the parameters i control from the ex pedal, I notice no zippering effect from changing the expression pedals position so the changes in effects depth are very smooth through out the ex pedal's travel. As Per noted about using one's input signal to control infinite feedback, The pedal can have total independence of direction over any parameter, so effects can become activated at the heel down position or the toe down position, so complex effects morphing is easily possible. Bill --Apple-Mail-3-32074716 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "
oops i did it = again.. what I meant to say was in the heal down position I have only = the reverb on, I might add that for the parameters i control from the ex = pedal, I notice no zippering effect from changing the expression pedals = position so the changes in effects depth are very smooth  through = out the ex pedal's travel. As Per noted about using one's input signal = to control infinite feedback, The pedal can have total independence of = direction over any parameter, so effects can become activated at the = heel down position or the toe down position, so complex effects morphing = is easily possible.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-3-32074716-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 19:48:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0BB73BE95; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rMuti+jDX8kcyRdVrhI+4ws/gKxTJLDM5PH6znLKL6g=; b=xwjOwDJKXWaxvIzyKqrkUiqtCVO3pbuuqWJ5wUmmaX94ltSJ5ZdtOoA7f3svpQTEhF andbkBknmEylbYkkDzynhBMDIWXevyrsv2bDMSSqrzvri+sUj79juWesJPz9f3Ww/e/R LdLL04j71HziRQOnH6j74ex9/RxSAbOQdBEj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bF/ch7MvDfm9/V6NqX/XBCZLzRgKgcNEzkR2BX4UvrwfIVGaAoDrW3Wic89aRhkQxF zY+D9skAIj+c+Z7qLNsJFWVyDPYuMFld6du/JDrgWFhdvuzfLAdmbi8IHhrxwsZAxPuZ ru+8KkOLO3+OVDlf5xLdofq6ZBqN2uoTZncrE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:48:52 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003101148q2dde553aw7a1466bcf70f795b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Im bored of my TC Fireworx! HELP! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:32 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > The pedal can have total independence of direction over any parameter, so > effects can become activated at the heel down position or the toe down > position, so complex effects morphing is easily possible. > =C2=A0Bill Cool! I too am doing that with exprs pedals a lot these days. Thanks to software like Bidule and Mainstage I'm able to excel in scaling my expr pedals value curves to put different "actions" for different targets at certain ranges of the total expr pedal range. A fav trick is to combine three functions on the pedal: volume swell pedal, feedback control for a pre looper delay and FREEZE feeback loop at the ultimate toe down position. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From ansvunderink@hetnet.nl Wed Mar 10 20:22:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 741 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:22:03 UTC Received: from cpsmtpb-ews06.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews06.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.9]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091F93BE8E for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cpbrm-ews06.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.137]) by cpsmtpb-ews06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:09:35 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-EML07.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.77]) by cpbrm-ews06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:09:34 +0100 Received: from localhost ([10.94.77.200]) by CPSMTPM-EML07.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:09:33 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAC08D.98186EE9" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: Hello Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:09:30 +0100 Message-ID: <2A34F82C3832284CBF0880DA457CC0521BBDF2DB@CPEXBE-EML04.kpnsp.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Hello Thread-Index: AcrAjZdeu/2s5qPST3qoIWEDcChE6g== From: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2010 20:09:34.0008 (UTC) FILETIME=[99FFCB80:01CAC08D] X-RecipientDomain: loopers-delight.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC08D.98186EE9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You have been chosen as one of the Winners of 750,000.send the = following: Name,Age,Sex,Country Contact Email:claims.swissl@hotmail.com=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC08D.98186EE9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello

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SONG CREDIT SUISSE BANK ASSISTANT MANAGER FOREIGN PAYMENT SECTION From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 10 23:11:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00DAD3BE94; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:11:09 UTC Message-ID: <6B290F5347D14F48BC4C5E82C1F0E906@INGO> From: "Ingo Ito" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?I=B4m_selling_my_complete_Roland_GR_system?= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:04:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01CAC0AE.633412C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <4-3v-B.A.Eb.NcCmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:11:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01CAC0AE.633412C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody, I=B4m selling some of my equipment on e-bay at the moment, which is not = especially loop-related, but might be of interest to some people here: It=B4s a complete Roland GR System: 1. a custom made Stratocaster with all the technology of a Roland G-505 = controller guitar (and ready for MIDI use, when combined with the Roland = GM-70 or for use with e.g. VG-8 with the Roland BC-13 converter box) 2. an original Roland GR-300 Guitar Synth (the blue one) from the early = eighties 3. the original 24-pin cable to connect guitar and synthesizer If somebody is interested, you=B4ll find all details about the items on = their auction pages: Custom Stratocaster - Roland GR-300 Guitar Controller http://cgi.ebay.de/Custom-Stratocaster-Roland-GR-300-Guitar-Controller_W0= QQitemZ220567952885QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGitarren?hash=3Ditem335adfddf5 Roland GR-300 Guitar Synthesizer http://cgi.ebay.de/Roland-GR-300-Gitarren-Synthesizer-Guitar-Synth_W0QQit= emZ220567968250QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAllgemeines_Musikinstrumente_Zubeh%C3%B= 6r?hash=3Ditem335ae019fa Roland 24-Pin Cable for GR-300 Guitar Synthesizer http://cgi.ebay.de/Roland-24-Pin-Kabel-Cable-for-GR-300-Guitar-Synth_W0QQ= itemZ220567977940QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAllgemeines_Musikinstrumente_Zubeh%C3= %B6r?hash=3Ditem335ae03fd4 For everybody who is not interested, please excuse this slightly off = topic mail. Cheers Ingo ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01CAC0AE.633412C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everybody,
 
I=B4m selling some of my equipment on = e-bay at the=20 moment, which is not especially loop-related, but might be of interest = to some=20 people here:
 
It=B4s a complete Roland GR = System:
1. a custom made Stratocaster with all = the=20 technology of a Roland G-505 controller guitar (and ready for MIDI use,=20 when combined with the Roland GM-70 or for use with e.g. VG-8 with = the=20 Roland BC-13 converter box)
2. an original Roland GR-300 Guitar = Synth (the blue=20 one) from the early eighties
3. the original 24-pin cable to connect = guitar and=20 synthesizer
 
If somebody is interested, you=B4ll = find all details=20 about the items on their auction pages:
 
Custom Stratocaster - Roland = GR-300 Guitar=20 Controller
http://cgi.ebay.de/Custom-Stratocaster-Roland-GR-300-Guitar-Controll= er_W0QQitemZ220567952885QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGitarren?hash=3Ditem335adfddf5=
 
Roland GR-300 Guitar = Synthesizer
http://cgi.ebay.de/Roland-GR-300-Gitarren-= Synthesizer-Guitar-Synth_W0QQitemZ220567968250QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAllgemei= nes_Musikinstrumente_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=3Ditem335ae019fa
 
Roland 24-Pin Cable for GR-300 Guitar=20 Synthesizer
http://cgi.ebay.de/Roland-24-Pin-Kabel-C= able-for-GR-300-Guitar-Synth_W0QQitemZ220567977940QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAllg= emeines_Musikinstrumente_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=3Ditem335ae03fd4
 
For everybody who is not interested, = please excuse=20 this slightly off topic mail.
 
Cheers
Ingo
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CLEARING DEPT From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 01:09:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 358233BE94; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <16139.72.51.1268269773.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:09:33 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi Buzap, Nice one. Here's one of my favorites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpLIiozVWJo Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Wed, March 10, 2010 8:49 am, buzap@gmx.net wrote: > Hi Per (and others interested... :-) > > now that you've picked up the Chapman stick... > Do you actually know the Ukrainian (Tartar) tap guitar player Enver > Izmailov (Izmaylov)? > > I have never seen anyone play like him with his unique, non-Stanley-Jordan > two-handed tap-style guitar playing... Blew me completely away. > Thought could be interesting to listen to... > > Here is an example, with some looping: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoJmKoinEKc > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enver_%C4%B0zmaylov > > Anyone else know him? > > best regards > Buzap > -- > GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 01:51:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B63C23BE97; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dTPA60PJtNYA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Z7K1OTzMAAAA:8 a=DfYADJy-mEG2ij9w95YA:9 a=XEfZb1xdmUEG1W3d7KUA:7 a=XlmTnV8J2VDsz546ZKMJnmiykmAA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Message-Id: <5486D87B-C3AA-4AF3-A5B2-7CCB89C13E28@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6B290F5347D14F48BC4C5E82C1F0E906@INGO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_I=B4m_selling_my_complete_Roland_GR_system?= X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:51:23 -0800 References: <6B290F5347D14F48BC4C5E82C1F0E906@INGO> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Ingo, No, I am not interested in making a purchase. But it has been rather a while since I heard of anyone using one of =20 those old Roland guitar-synths. Got any music posted online anywhere? I am more curious to hear what you were doing with it than what =20 exactly it was you were using. I use a lot of later-era Roland GR and VG stuff. But some of the early gear had a fairly unique tone. If you feel inclined, please share. Ted On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Ingo Ito wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I=B4m selling some of my equipment on e-bay at the moment, which is =20= > not especially loop-related, but might be of interest to some people =20= > here: > > It=B4s a complete Roland GR System: > 1. a custom made Stratocaster with all the technology of a Roland =20 > G-505 controller guitar (and ready for MIDI use, when combined with =20= > the Roland GM-70 or for use with e.g. VG-8 with the Roland BC-13 =20 > converter box) > 2. an original Roland GR-300 Guitar Synth (the blue one) from the =20 > early eighties > 3. the original 24-pin cable to connect guitar and synthesizer > > If somebody is interested, you=B4ll find all details about the items =20= > on their auction pages: > > Custom Stratocaster - Roland GR-300 Guitar Controller > = http://cgi.ebay.de/Custom-Stratocaster-Roland-GR-300-Guitar-Controller_W0Q= QitemZ220567952885QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGitarren?hash=3Ditem335adfddf5 > > Roland GR-300 Guitar Synthesizer > = http://cgi.ebay.de/Roland-GR-300-Gitarren-Synthesizer-Guitar-Synth_W0QQite= mZ220567968250QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAllgemeines_Musikinstrumente_Zubeh%C3%B6r= ?hash=3Ditem335ae019fa > > Roland 24-Pin Cable for GR-300 Guitar Synthesizer > = http://cgi.ebay.de/Roland-24-Pin-Kabel-Cable-for-GR-300-Guitar-Synth_W0QQi= temZ220567977940QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAllgemeines_Musikinstrumente_Zubeh%C3%B= 6r?hash=3Ditem335ae03fd4 > > For everybody who is not interested, please excuse this slightly off =20= > topic mail. > > Cheers > Ingo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 01:58:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF7153BEA9; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <18395.72.51.1268272704.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <13715.216.1266076843.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <11319.216.1266115456.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:58:24 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: [New Release] - Premonition Factory- 59 airplanes waiting for New York From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <_qkNcC.A.K1D.94EmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sjaak, Loving the CD. Track 5 has a few scary moments though. I think # 60 was circling and waiting for a landing. :) Great packaging. Congrats. Andre On Tue, March 9, 2010 6:53 pm, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi, > Some of you have emailed me in the past about the availability of the > digital downloads. Good news, my new Premonition Factory album is now > available on Bandcamp, iTunes, CDBaby etc. > > Full previews of all tracks and the limited edition CD, a luxury 6 > page digisleeve with 8 page booklet are available at the Premonition > Factory website http://premonitionfactory.com/ > > Enjoy :) > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 02:03:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B81F3BE95; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: MF-101 mini review OT Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:03:16 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Andy that sounds great especially the volume compensation as the resonance rises. The M-9 has some good filters but I'm using it almost exclusively for delay effects and because it is the last thing in my signal chain before the amps, its not the ideal location for filters like this. What I really want is a combination wah/ filter with the pedal built in so I can simply put it at the front of my effects chain where it would be more useful. I actually have no room on my board for anything else which is why a wah pedal type effect would be easier to park on the floor next to my board when I want to use it. Most wah pedals I've used add some dirt and i'd like to find a really clean sounding one. Any suggestions anybody? Ive owned an RMC a Fulltone Clyde and a dunlop 95Q which was pretty cool in that it turned on in the heal down position like a Morley Bad Horsey, no obnoxious toe click, but added slight gain boost and dirt which I'm trying to avoid. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 03:14:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 888D93BEAF; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MjGPL/vSn6csOeiEqTvdMv0zseJpF0ssS4zHZP2r+cg=; b=O6cxRvH+0X6bT8gQOnG1EAvQlFdYqCqLxqq5UdgWkLC7HMzUBq1Q3iD4bdpGR8prX4 XcwDsfJmxE82JEwXhiTq38PUjdoVsEk12KZ5iK8inuuaF6bevixb48GGCoq4duU0rDo+ NXlR5dzHaiGjFOeU9yyBHpC0t7HXa4RJJyphI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nMTCAuJRM3lcTUnSUPBuXSxOEAdIkK1r/Pcf4mFKY3Ivk3RAINMCkykCCEi/ISEXmr uDRpqSYcteEK8P5Akbkf7FS80jsvgrB50skNjp9WgzokPO3pzlKeHXrJy4kFWnKmWWca TfcyTlnA0d16fweaMs6YvhZxtZ4Aw75Dhjcwg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:14:49 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362852b65891bc04817dd126 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:14:51 +0000 (UTC) --0016362852b65891bc04817dd126 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Raul! Wow, that was the biggest thing keeping me from getting a Mac. This changes everything. I think I'll wait though to hear people's experiences. It does sound too good to be true. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... freeware! can't be true ... > > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/vfx.html > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.lumin= ada, > exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta= que > ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li u= na > agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " > > > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0016362852b65891bc04817dd126 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Raul!

Wow, that was the biggest thing keeping me from getting= a Mac. This changes everything. I think I'll wait though to hear peopl= e's experiences. It does sound too good to be true.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrot= e:
...=A0 freeware! can't be true ...

http://www.apple.com= /downloads/macosx/audio/vfx.html

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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i r= esulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien p= osar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "


Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collecti= ve: http://www.c= t-collective.com




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Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/= artsimon
--0016362852b65891bc04817dd126-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 03:22:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE6313BEB9; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:22:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:21:18 -0600 References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:22:11 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Thanks Raul! > > Wow, that was the biggest thing keeping me from getting a Mac. This > changes everything. I think I'll wait though to hear people's > experiences. It does sound too good to be true. I don't have any apps that don't also include AU versions of their plugins, and all of the VST versions work fine also. I honestly had no idea this was even an issue, but I guess it must be?? Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 03:32:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFA3C3BEA9; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n5op3lnpMRgwacbiX8Su1D6PHtoDBwHJ4hD169YAWyk=; b=K3J67Jk8diJKnRhINJJy9KEnW8UZWSXnEB2ZJoO3TCCi84yUjZFCSi074zIto/hViK Uy/5w5OpweMlp2Ypx/XSGFgv1p77pysDI+1L6lXa7I2voYFZD7udDj1nkXC4cLW18lmf NaV0UPJshGSzAAvfXcWM/Ub8EPxz3v6BvNrsE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w7OLmkSCdIURO7KGaSxfDBPQvPfCh4prwzBzQHIYE8sWorncVNZhrz8FhxId+qmCzq tY5DuuH1u4lJFtZE1GiuoBy68apcQ67dDbmrSlFCX08prpIbMiHwk+s0RsxepC99Jwdk FzwiVW0OEc0ZdTBH+i2ZHdHw+zCeRU4nhQ+Aw= Sender: daryl shawn Message-ID: <4B986436.7040602@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:32:06 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Chicago feedback References: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> <4B976EE2.50706@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B976EE2.50706@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:32:11 +0000 (UTC) This is tangentially related...possibly interesting. I did a loopy improv set w/my tape decks last night in Chicago, at a very open-minded establishment called Ronny's. One of the other acts playing, called Sunglasses, had a fascinating approach. They had a couple of cheap Yamaha keyboards, plus two or three pedals each, mainly delays and some fuzz. Their set started with both of them playing a few massive notes on the keys, then twiddling knobs for a moment, then they simply stepped back from their gear, grabbed their beers and simply let the echoes die down, listening along with the crowd. Not only was it interesting musically, hearing different things emerge as the delays overlapped and faded away at different rates, but somehow it was fascinating to watch them...listen. I can't quite explain it, but there was something great about these two guys simply drinking some beer and being totally absorbed in the sound they'd created. They nodded their heads a bit, even chatted for a second about what was going on, then simply closed their eyes and waited along with the rest of us for the ten minutes or so until all sound had disappeared. Definitely made me think about what makes a good performance, because this went against most rules that I know. Unlikely as it sounds, their shtick totally worked for me, on many levels, I think because they clearly knew what they were going for, and were intently involved in it, even if more as listener than performer. For a longer description, here's my tour diary (the earlier dates have yet to be filled in).. http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/spring10.htm Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 04:26:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D4FA3BEBA; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003100329 Message-id: <8247CB52DABF434B8A705553FADD1D89@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> <4B976EE2.50706@tiscali.co.uk> <4B986436.7040602@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: Chicago feedback Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:26:11 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:26:25 +0000 (UTC) I think it's cool. I like the idea of the audience simply conversing with the players without pretension. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Chicago feedback > This is tangentially related...possibly interesting. I did a loopy improv > set w/my tape decks last night in Chicago, at a very open-minded > establishment called Ronny's. One of the other acts playing, called > Sunglasses, had a fascinating approach. They had a couple of cheap Yamaha > keyboards, plus two or three pedals each, mainly delays and some fuzz. > Their set started with both of them playing a few massive notes on the > keys, then twiddling knobs for a moment, then they simply stepped back > from their gear, grabbed their beers and simply let the echoes die down, > listening along with the crowd. Not only was it interesting musically, > hearing different things emerge as the delays overlapped and faded away at > different rates, but somehow it was fascinating to watch them...listen. I > can't quite explain it, but there was something great about these two guys > simply drinking some beer and being totally absorbed in the sound they'd > created. They nodded their heads a bit, even chatted for a second about > what was going on, then simply closed their eyes and waited along with the > rest of us for the ten minutes or so until all sound had disappeared. > > Definitely made me think about what makes a good performance, because this > went against most rules that I know. Unlikely as it sounds, their shtick > totally worked for me, on many levels, I think because they clearly knew > what they were going for, and were intently involved in it, even if more > as listener than performer. > > For a longer description, here's my tour diary (the earlier dates have yet > to be filled in).. http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/spring10.htm > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 04:41:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEF743BEC4; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=+0lTPPBcRuwSMk5factEZXghufN7usV7IrlQ7XOgEyg=; b=uvcWGwPbniwtj/AfI/yVDbn9GnfS/pgmmicm8v+B2Tsga+qh20Ind4uIsu+TC/e5ko 394zH4KG4Hykfo8Z/hjtsmOKMefb73l2s9e3fTEj0GRy+Ahvh1O6SyhD3KS9bzKGaIcm 5kkxvOoFgL+k7btHAyf7g8jFws/zinVVozv6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=IJAFZAsEDtpq9OPBOJAx5uOPzXbXIAfxabvOsZZOQKe1KU6NHg4sah06elt5PAwE9z gc9bT3W/yohi6z9z0xeaMXyvZCUPnDZVgsZWafWlNVqMEvX2BsQ/jVApu+dkEbupeD5v htM5uhIVhPxizxSJl5ycL1DgYx6S1nEiDeJgk= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-65139567 Subject: Re: Chicago feedback Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:43:51 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4B986436.7040602@mhorse.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> <4B976EE2.50706@tiscali.co.uk> <4B986436.7040602@mhorse.com> Message-Id: <58521FC1-265A-427D-9E77-F9F9E75D640A@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:41:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-65139567 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nice. I love it.=20 Strange... I love a lot of things I hear on this list but rarely write = to say that unless I actually have something interesting to add.=20 So I'm wondering why I feel compelled to in this case. I think possibly = because I'm still bogged down by complexity, nearing the end of a 3 year = struggle to make it simple again (while retaining the advantages I began = this journey for.) Or it is the idea of reversal, where the artists = become the audience and, dissolving that barrier, so the audience feels = like part of the art. Or perhaps it's just that I felt like I was in = that room too for a second. Or because I know most "experimental" = attempts like that fail musically (in my opinion) so it's quite a joy = when that sort of approach really works. Or, because I am from Chicago = originally!=20 Anyway, Thank you for sharing! ---Christopher. On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > This is tangentially related...possibly interesting. I did a loopy = improv set w/my tape decks last night in Chicago, at a very open-minded = establishment called Ronny's. One of the other acts playing, called = Sunglasses, had a fascinating approach. They had a couple of cheap = Yamaha keyboards, plus two or three pedals each, mainly delays and some = fuzz. Their set started with both of them playing a few massive notes on = the keys, then twiddling knobs for a moment, then they simply stepped = back from their gear, grabbed their beers and simply let the echoes die = down, listening along with the crowd. Not only was it interesting = musically, hearing different things emerge as the delays overlapped and = faded away at different rates, but somehow it was fascinating to watch = them...listen. I can't quite explain it, but there was something great = about these two guys simply drinking some beer and being totally = absorbed in the sound they'd created. They nodded their heads a bit, = even chatted for a second about what was going on, then simply closed = their eyes and waited along with the rest of us for the ten minutes or = so until all sound had disappeared. >=20 > Definitely made me think about what makes a good performance, because = this went against most rules that I know. Unlikely as it sounds, their = shtick totally worked for me, on many levels, I think because they = clearly knew what they were going for, and were intently involved in it, = even if more as listener than performer. >=20 > For a longer description, here's my tour diary (the earlier dates have = yet to be filled in).. http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/spring10.htm >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-65139567 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii really works. Or, because I am from = Chicago originally! 

Anyway, Thank you for = sharing!


---Christopher.




On Mar 10, 2010, = at 7:32 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote:

This = is tangentially related...possibly interesting. I did a loopy improv set = w/my tape decks last night in Chicago, at a very open-minded = establishment called Ronny's. One of the other acts playing, called = Sunglasses, had a fascinating approach. They had a couple of cheap = Yamaha keyboards, plus two or three pedals each, mainly delays and some = fuzz. Their set started with both of them playing a few massive notes on = the keys, then twiddling knobs for a moment, then they simply stepped = back from their gear, grabbed their beers and simply let the echoes die = down, listening along with the crowd. Not only was it interesting = musically, hearing different things emerge as the delays overlapped and = faded away at different rates, but somehow it was fascinating to watch = them...listen. I can't quite explain it, but there was something great = about these two guys simply drinking some beer and being totally = absorbed in the sound they'd created. They nodded their heads a bit, = even chatted for a second about what was going on, then simply closed = their eyes and waited along with the rest of us for the ten minutes or = so until all sound had disappeared.

Definitely made me think = about what makes a good performance, because this went against most = rules that I know. Unlikely as it sounds, their shtick totally worked = for me, on many levels, I think because they clearly knew what they were = going for, and were intently involved in it, even if more as listener = than performer.

For a longer description, here's my tour diary = (the earlier dates have yet to be filled in).. http://www.swanwelder= .com/tour/spring10.htm

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapain= tingmusic.com



= --Apple-Mail-2-65139567-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 05:12:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB00F3BEC4; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/HuL0omAwOFMNv8lcoRqzIx2owEDIymTvnZ0ZW6s3EQ=; b=rF/+RfitFHM5dpRJmVr3m+fh4nWj/DmqTcKOhWpsZDX3Vx1DHzNxLPwws0AJ9jD93z WoVrfoSphxPflveTyRYDCaSzaRxyYG663IhpFowSuw7KOW6+W9yrYht124lzhjS25hds tlroqPAo7sx1nU5T91UPgjhy/d/DKGu7lBJbk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s2xQSAFOlcCdvuDYlTjkTaajJIydtc2az7b6BvqOaFXZRnat7SoVSxqg3hq6RfyoUS 2Rd7u1PXcivNjMeXfGm2W0zdIx/FDW+TPBA+fMeizd2OZhsEFDCS7BpFSxLbHenf4w7k d/9ZTdlWB3hJD6Ioxbls3hptG7228NFZg2yek= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:12:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2d8108dc2f04817f7514 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:12:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db2d8108dc2f04817f7514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there's some interesting win vsts that don't have its au or vst plugin for osx ... 2010/3/11 Jeff Shirkey > > On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Art Simon wrote: > > Thanks Raul! >> >> Wow, that was the biggest thing keeping me from getting a Mac. This >> changes everything. I think I'll wait though to hear people's experience= s. >> It does sound too good to be true. >> > > I don't have any apps that don't also include AU versions of their plugin= s, > and all of the VST versions work fine also. I honestly had no idea this w= as > even an issue, but I guess it must be?? > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6db2d8108dc2f04817f7514 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there's some interesting win vsts that don't have its au or vst plu= gin for osx ...

2010/3/11 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@veriz't on.net>

On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Art Simon wrote:

Thanks Raul!

Wow, that was the biggest thing keeping me from getting a Mac. This changes= everything. I think I'll wait though to hear people's experiences.= It does sound too good to be true.

I don't have any apps that don't also include AU versions of their = plugins, and all of the VST versions work fine also. I honestly had no idea= this was even an issue, but I guess it must be??

Thanks,

Jeff




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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m= =E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!,= no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "=


Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collecti= ve: http://www.c= t-collective.com

--0016e6db2d8108dc2f04817f7514-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 05:22:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8D543BEC3; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xlf9XyR0Yt9gXO0UCB3+ZnXz9tafJfEVTyJNbEHVFc8=; b=AB5E9nayytnn1YGBLmwURCbouKeEMpG3z5AD7d4G8xlmJ02gpDGhoh17MFOLFj1cR1 ipO6k0M01kP6Pd1kp8ShN2wpdoYH22nbvexT/ucv4fKFcANlxb+ZNSyvadL40Ndk9qrm 9EDZMBN2AO6TZO91vIf+Q/zzn33Eve1uDCZys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LYTfFaSaKyw9Zpf92BV+2LifMbdeyViVT9EOOrfylThW8wN6Gf3qL9PR5U7HvLQEZw aFPwTmCLBPN90snmh721JP2xZJlmAIIwYntNlWbsECOxG3qpWuCUKVBWEyeu9PE2TVrX WHwREHnCu4nOajOFTC9mxMGkOmZ/SP3lgWD3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:22:18 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364eca8a39f52d04817f998e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:22:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016364eca8a39f52d04817f998e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For me, it's glitch: http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ (BTW, this discussion got me back to the website to see there is a new update, the first in 4 years! Cool!) On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > there's some interesting win vsts that don't have its au or vst plugin fo= r > osx ... > > 2010/3/11 Jeff Shirkey > > >> On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Art Simon wrote: >> >> Thanks Raul! >>> >>> Wow, that was the biggest thing keeping me from getting a Mac. This >>> changes everything. I think I'll wait though to hear people's experienc= es. >>> It does sound too good to be true. >>> >> >> I don't have any apps that don't also include AU versions of their >> plugins, and all of the VST versions work fine also. I honestly had no i= dea >> this was even an issue, but I guess it must be?? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.lumin= ada, > exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta= que > ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li u= na > agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " > > > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0016364eca8a39f52d04817f998e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For me, it's glitch:
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/
(BTW, this discussion got me = back to the website to see there is a new update, the first in 4 years! Coo= l!)

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Raul Bonell= <raul.bonell= @gmail.com> wrote:
there's some interesting win vsts that don't have its au or vst plu= gin for osx ...

2010/3/11 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@veriz't on.net>


On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Art Simon wrote:

Thanks Raul!

Wow, that was the biggest thing keeping me from getting a Mac. This changes= everything. I think I'll wait though to hear people's experiences.= It does sound too good to be true.

I don't have any apps that don't also include AU versions of their = plugins, and all of the VST versions work fine also. I honestly had no idea= this was even an issue, but I guess it must be??

Thanks,

Jeff




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--0016364eca8a39f52d04817f998e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 05:28:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE8D83BEDB; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:28:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02F0_01CAC0A1.0D25A900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2010 05:28:48.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA3692F0:01CAC0DB] Resent-Message-ID: <6ke72D.A.xN.R-HmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:28:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02F0_01CAC0A1.0D25A900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there anything, anything that you can put in between a power outlet = and your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the wall. I = literally can't record because of it. It comes out of my amps by = itself, my computer with guitar plugged into it directly, etc. It is = not my guitar cables, or the ground in the guitar. I have eliminated = these as the source. It is most definitely caused within the circuit of = the wiring in my house. I have no reastat light controllers in my = basement, which was the cause of the noise when I was upstairs, but = turned them off. There has to be something, or this will me insane. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_02F0_01CAC0A1.0D25A900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there anything, anything that you = can put in=20 between a power outlet and your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving = me up the=20 wall. I literally can't record because of it.  It comes out of my = amps by=20 itself, my computer with guitar plugged into it directly, = etc.   It is=20 not my guitar cables, or the ground in the guitar. I have eliminated = these as=20 the source. It is most definitely caused within the circuit of the = wiring in my=20 house.  I have no reastat light controllers in my basement, which = was the=20 cause of the noise when I was upstairs, but turned them = off.   =20 There has to be something, or this will me insane.
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_02F0_01CAC0A1.0D25A900-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 05:51:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CA593BEC9; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:51:10 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:44:28 -0800 Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! From: Qua Veda To: Kris Hartung , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Thread-Index: AcrA3eoFX8kpMQKQ6UqkCSvV9bs66A== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3351102269_1078266" X-MagicMail-UUID: 29341fea-2cd1-11df-b710-001517857ac1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:51:11 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3351102269_1078266 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Kris, I bought a Furman Elite-20 PF -i. It is a super power conditioner/filter, designed to use with computers, amps, digital, analog , audio visual gear etc. It really worked for me. Its not cheap, but you might find a deal on eBay or somewhere. http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?id=ELITE-20PFi -Qua On 3/10/10 9:28 PM, "Kris Hartung" wrote: > Is there anything, anything that you can put in between a power outlet and > your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the wall. I literally can't > record because of it. It comes out of my amps by itself, my computer with > guitar plugged into it directly, etc. It is not my guitar cables, or the > ground in the guitar. I have eliminated these as the source. It is most > definitely caused within the circuit of the wiring in my house. I have no > reastat light controllers in my basement, which was the cause of the noise > when I was upstairs, but turned them off. There has to be something, or > this will me insane. > > Kris > > > -Qua --B_3351102269_1078266 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Hi Kris,

I bought a Furman Elite-20 PF -i.    It is a super power con= ditioner/filter, designed to use with computers,  amps, digital, analog= , audio visual gear etc.
It really worked for me.   Its not cheap, but you might find a de= al on eBay or somewhere.

http://www.= furmansound.com/product.php?id=3DELITE-20PFi

-Qua


On 3/10/10 9:28 PM, "Kris Hartung" <k= hartung@q.com> wrote:

I= s there anything, anything that you can put in between a power outlet and yo= ur gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the wall. I literally can't = record because of it.  It comes out of my amps by itself, my computer w= ith guitar plugged into it directly, etc.   It is not my guitar ca= bles, or the ground in the guitar. I have eliminated these as the source. It= is most definitely caused within the circuit of the wiring in my house. &nb= sp;I have no reastat light controllers in my basement, which was the cause o= f the noise when I was upstairs, but turned them off.    Ther= e has to be something, or this will me insane.
Kris
 


-Qua

 --B_3351102269_1078266-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 05:59:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3C343BEC5; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:59:27 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:57:27 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Changes #1 Video on You Tube -- Changes 1,2,3 on exhibit Monson MA Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've uploaded a new studio piece entitled Changes #1 to my You Tube site. It can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qpD9vs7ijE The first 3 videos in the changes sequence will be on exhibit at a lovely art's show in Monson MA (West of Sturbridge). I've been exhibiting at this show almost every year, and it just keeps getting better. This year's theme is "Black & White & Everything In Between" The opening is Saturday from 2 - 4 PM. It's worth the trip! http://www.monsonartscouncil.com/shows.asp Here is a description of the piece on You Tube. Changes #1 reverses my usual live improvisatory process. I was asked to perform at an on line media event called The Virtual Sound and Video Festival. I didn't want to limit myself to web-cam quality, so, instead of improvising live, I composed a piece that was like my visual improvs, but without the rapid fire cutting I do live. I decided to use a lot of different thematic material, and to try to combine themes in different combinations. This was a different way of working for me and I enjoyed the challenge. Most of my studio pieces are focused on a single theme, while my live pieces are improvisations in which I usually choose material on the spur of the moment. I created a 25 minute piece called "Changes" that was used in the festival. I gave this piece to guitarist Mike Marando, who improvised a soundtrack. I used the first 10 minutes, and edited my original video in response to his music. BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 06:02:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E8753BED8; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=fruLPybZ6lr3TCVqZr7Ovh5VUmfxP3W34NUi23m17jI=; b=eOFMRMolCHexBLOvUc1/4ys+tyJshGiGQZsHNSyGsAo6B8c8JCbXOu8ABG5h0imr9H MHYO7yoEggZTLNveob3br7S3Rf1BPwqanAfuR6vsfF+28g6uPhE8BSfeJJzlRc4bWhFi +unsAIKHdmRvQrv7EZR/5xBW8hKcKzNxgHgs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=oji0gSKde6qRVwbA7WAyachujLIlCvzVUezhKaqp/CKUu5OpQSpwj0qKYxT/1mhPiy BuAAWp5LhlQDNuAvrainETRqKQ/6yGlUTVcpBjx5vYrcV7lbk5+Uf9jPTKKtS1sFAsfb zwfYED1ocZ/6iVXJnXtgFYQPdbb04kwPNI1Yo= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-70002087 Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed?! Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:04:54 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <7281FA92-C19C-4F2C-8E73-433955998E75@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:02:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-70002087 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I lived in a house once where a horrible buzz spontaneously took over my = guitar amp, on and off, seemingly randomly for months and months. It was = horrible.=20 I finally noticed it happening a few times when house mates came home = and immediately went downstairs and realized that the living room light = was on a dimmer switch, the only one in the house. If the dimmer was not = at full, the guitar amp was practically unusable for the loud buzz.=20 So... check for evil dimmer switches anywhere on the line, especially if = it is an older house.=20 When I put a studio in my basement, I made sure the power to the audio = outlets was wired independently.=20 On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > designed to use with computers, amps, digital, analog , audio visual = gear etc. > It really worked for me. Its not cheap, but you might find a deal on = eBa --Apple-Mail-3-70002087 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 designed to = use with computers,  amps, digital, analog , audio visual gear = etc.
It really worked for me.   Its not cheap, but you = might find a deal on = eBa

= --Apple-Mail-3-70002087-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 06:13:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D7443BEEE; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <4347180.216.1268287593367.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <4347180.216.1268287593367.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed?! Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:13:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01CAC0A7.3C6A47B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2010 06:13:04.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[E95A8A40:01CAC0E1] Resent-Message-ID: <-Y51SD.A.1IB.xnImLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:13:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01CAC0A7.3C6A47B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will check again. A dimmer switch was the offender when I was = upstairs. This is what happens when you live in a house build in 1927. = Thanks. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 I lived in a house once where a horrible buzz spontaneously took over = my guitar amp, on and off, seemingly randomly for months and months. It = was horrible.=20 I finally noticed it happening a few times when house mates came home = and immediately went downstairs and realized that the living room light = was on a dimmer switch, the only one in the house. If the dimmer was not = at full, the guitar amp was practically unusable for the loud buzz.=20 So... check for evil dimmer switches anywhere on the line, especially = if it is an older house.=20 When I put a studio in my basement, I made sure the power to the audio = outlets was wired independently.=20 On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Qua Veda wrote: designed to use with computers, amps, digital, analog , audio = visual gear etc. It really worked for me. Its not cheap, but you might find a deal = on eBa ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01CAC0A7.3C6A47B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I will check again. A dimmer switch was = the=20 offender when I was upstairs. This is what happens when you live in = a house=20 build in 1927.  Thanks. Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
 

I lived in a house once where a horrible buzz spontaneously took = over my=20 guitar amp, on and off, seemingly randomly for months and months. It = was=20 horrible. 

I finally noticed it happening a few times when house mates came = home and=20 immediately went downstairs and realized that the living room light = was on a=20 dimmer switch, the only one in the house. If the dimmer was not at = full, the=20 guitar amp was practically unusable for the loud buzz. 

So... check for evil dimmer switches anywhere on the line, = especially if=20 it is an older house. 

When I put a studio in my basement, I made sure the power to the = audio=20 outlets was wired independently. 

On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Qua Veda wrote:
 designed to use with = computers,=20  amps, digital, analog , audio visual gear etc.
It really = worked for=20 me.   Its not cheap, but you might find a deal on=20 eBa

------=_NextPart_000_0073_01CAC0A7.3C6A47B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 06:14:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B9B13BEF7; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <33320514.209.1268286526898.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <33320514.209.1268286526898.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:14:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007D_01CAC0A7.7894CE90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2010 06:14:45.0412 (UTC) FILETIME=[25485640:01CAC0E2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:14:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01CAC0A7.7894CE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed!Yeah, that's very pricey. This = will be a last resort, and this assumes it will work. ----- Original Message -----=20 Hi Kris, I bought a Furman Elite-20 PF -i. It is a super power = conditioner/filter, designed to use with computers, amps, digital, = analog , audio visual gear etc. It really worked for me. Its not cheap, but you might find a deal on = eBay or somewhere. http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?id=3DELITE-20PFi -Qua On 3/10/10 9:28 PM, "Kris Hartung" wrote: Is there anything, anything that you can put in between a power = outlet and your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the wall. I = literally can't record because of it. It comes out of my amps by = itself, my computer with guitar plugged into it directly, etc. It is = not my guitar cables, or the ground in the guitar. I have eliminated = these as the source. It is most definitely caused within the circuit of = the wiring in my house. I have no reastat light controllers in my = basement, which was the cause of the noise when I was upstairs, but = turned them off. There has to be something, or this will me insane. Kris =20 -Qua ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01CAC0A7.7894CE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed!
Yeah, that's very pricey.  This = will be a last=20 resort, and this assumes it will work.
----- Original Message -----

 Hi=20 Kris,

I bought a Furman Elite-20 PF -i.    It is = a super=20 power conditioner/filter, designed to use with computers,  amps, = digital,=20 analog , audio visual gear etc.
It really worked for me. =   Its=20 not cheap, but you might find a deal on eBay or somewhere.

http://w= ww.furmansound.com/product.php?id=3DELITE-20PFi

-Qua

On=20 3/10/10 9:28 PM, "Kris Hartung" <khartung@q.com>=20 wrote:
Is = there=20 anything, anything that you can put in between a power outlet and = your gear=20 to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the wall. I literally can't = record=20 because of it.  It comes out of my amps by itself, my computer = with=20 guitar plugged into it directly, etc.   It is not my = guitar=20 cables, or the ground in the guitar. I have eliminated these as the = source.=20 It is most definitely caused within the circuit of the wiring in my = house.=20  I have no reastat light controllers in my basement, which was = the=20 cause of the noise when I was upstairs, but turned them off.=20    There has to be something, or this will me=20 insane.

Kris

 


-Qua

------=_NextPart_000_007D_01CAC0A7.7894CE90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 06:19:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF8213BF10; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <0118A04D-35FF-42D7-9372-9C92E1DA2FAC@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-70826560 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:18:38 -0600 References: <33320514.209.1268286526898.JavaMail.root@n34> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:19:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-70826560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mar 11, 2010, at 12:14 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: > Yeah, that's very pricey. This will be a last resort, and this > assumes it will work. Furman may make another product that suits your needs. I've called them up and spoken with very helpful folks there who listened to my yammer on and on about my rig, my problems, needs, etc., before recommending a product. You might just want to give 'em a call tomorrow and see what they tell you. Sure can't hurt. I live in a very old house also (1880s or so), so I had weird shit going on with voltage regulation as well as some noise. The Furman product (AR-15?) I bought cleared it right up, and I have steady, clean power. But your needs could be different, of course. Still, I'd recommend giving them a call. Jeff --Apple-Mail-1-70826560 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mar 11, 2010, = at 12:14 AM, Kris Hartung wrote:

Yeah, that's = very pricey.  This will be a last resort, and this assumes it will = work.

Furman may = make another product that suits your needs. I've called them up and = spoken with very helpful folks there who listened to my yammer on and on = about my rig, my problems, needs, etc., before recommending a product. = You might just want to give 'em a call tomorrow and see what they tell = you. Sure can't hurt. 

I live in a very = old house also (1880s or so), so I had weird shit going on with voltage = regulation as well as some noise. The Furman product (AR-15?) I bought = cleared it right up, and I have steady, clean power. But your needs = could be different, of course. Still, I'd recommend giving them a = call.

Jeff
= --Apple-Mail-1-70826560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 06:21:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 079A13BF23; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B988BF7.60305@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:21:43 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Wow, this is wonderful! Thanks for posting it. VFX 1.1 VST plugin player http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/vfx.html Quite honestly, the gigantic and overwhelming profusion of very creative freeware VST instruments/effects created by young amateur programmers and their inability to play on a lot of Mac only apps has been one of the biggest reasons why I tend to steer my youngest digital audio students towards the Evil PC side of the computer audio world (that and the overwhelmingly affordable nature of the PC side versus the Mac side) but this really levels that particular playing field in one , freeware, fell swoop. To me, both platforms have so much to offer in the way of great programs and great effects that the way to go , if one can afford to, is obviously a MacBook Pro with both OS X and Win XP or 7 but NOT Vista on two partitions, running Boot Camp to switch between them. This, of course, means that one must have the financial resources to purchase such a relatively expensive beast. Nowadays there are a plethora of really cheap , brand new but trailing technology PC laptops and desktops for sale at a fraction of the cost so I always take into account someone's budget (and future projected budget) when helping them design a home studio.................there is, afterall, break out boxes, microphones, headphones, monitor speakers and software to purchase or acquire too. This begs the question, if you had the smallest budget possible, what would you invest in if you had to build a computer music studio from scratch. That's the subject of another tangentially off topic post, however. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 06:41:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61A1D3BEF4; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <5C48D1DF5B2A44B1BB60B8D25BE77DAC@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <5C48D1DF5B2A44B1BB60B8D25BE77DAC@NORBY11> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:41:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A6_01CAC0AB.3FAB1E00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2010 06:41:48.0303 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC99D9F0:01CAC0E5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:41:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01CAC0AB.3FAB1E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tried that. It has worked in other places, however, especially with a = comupter in the room and magnetic guitar pickups. ----- Original Message -----=20 t ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kris Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:28 PM Subject: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Is there anything, anything that you can put in between a power = outlet and your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the wall. I = literally can't record because of it. It comes out of my amps by = itself, my computer with guitar plugged into it directly, etc. It is = not my guitar cables, or the ground in the guitar. I have eliminated = these as the source. It is most definitely caused within the circuit of = the wiring in my house. I have no reastat light controllers in my = basement, which was the cause of the noise when I was upstairs, but = turned them off. There has to be something, or this will me insane. 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Tried that. It has worked in other = places, however,=20 especially with a comupter in the room and magnetic guitar = pickups.
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kris = Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, = 2010 9:28=20 PM
Subject: Constant buzzing - = can it be=20 killed!

Is there anything, anything that = you can put in=20 between a power outlet and your gear to prevent buzzing? It is = driving me up=20 the wall. I literally can't record because of it.  It comes out = of my=20 amps by itself, my computer with guitar plugged into it directly,=20 etc.   It is not my guitar cables, or the ground in the = guitar. I=20 have eliminated these as the source. It is most definitely caused = within the=20 circuit of the wiring in my house.  I have no reastat light = controllers=20 in my basement, which was the cause of the noise when I was = upstairs, but=20 turned them off.    There has to be something, or = this will=20 me insane.
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01CAC0AB.3FAB1E00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 08:05:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 096693BEDB; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MSabGhSeJ2L/ztAa0j3QOXuydmq4aZDKJNID7VBfL4o=; b=rjikNwUWJilwO3wiqcp9outS4w6tp37LeLVgck7FW0qzy2pJDWqmaL4LKW3IRavRKm LMbvixAnbaORGcIJgowjTFXm7jXV5b5m95f7YWdTZ4i38mvxio+lGvYh0eXG5zHuEOJg j0IexeebTb0agj484DnwF6AMHlezQpiet0npo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FbylXh2CU59XR036Ghji5IGq6DmQwM9reN3KnW523lVyOepMwsTH0I/5V5sjoY8AHR gBS1yAIr1hJwKvNmvvXO85wXVSo76Jvp7j6gL/bVscV5fjexmINjNRQlQCPhGBJt496O P/7JWQWd8FEOnrImATIAPr6afkmmDXJmTPocY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5C48D1DF5B2A44B1BB60B8D25BE77DAC@NORBY11> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:05:11 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003110005r3f0372f1ic8c2b7c945274925@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! From: Jim Goodin To: Kris Hartung Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517402dc2c3caf0048181df85 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:05:13 +0000 (UTC) --001517402dc2c3caf0048181df85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kris I bought one of these a while back but honestly have not applied it so don't know how good. http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Nady-HE1-Hum-Eliminator-?sku=180014 $29.99. Jim On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: > Tried that. It has worked in other places, however, especially with a > comupter in the room and magnetic guitar pickups. > > ----- Original Message ----- > t > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kris Hartung > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:28 PM > *Subject:* Constant buzzing - can it be killed! > > Is there anything, anything that you can put in between a power outlet and > your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the wall. I literally > can't record because of it. It comes out of my amps by itself, my computer > with guitar plugged into it directly, etc. It is not my guitar cables, or > the ground in the guitar. I have eliminated these as the source. It is most > definitely caused within the circuit of the wiring in my house. I have no > reastat light controllers in my basement, which was the cause of the noise > when I was upstairs, but turned them off. There has to be something, or > this will me insane. > > Kris > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001517402dc2c3caf0048181df85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris I bought one of these a while back but honestly have not applied it so= don't know how good.=A0 http://pro-audio.musicians= friend.com/product/Nady-HE1-Hum-Eliminator-?sku=3D180014=A0 $29.99.

Jim

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:41 AM, = Kris Hartung <khartu= ng@q.com> wrote:
Tried that. It has worked in other pla= ces, however,=20 especially with a comupter in the room and magnetic guitar pickups.<= /div>
----- Original Message -----
t
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kris Hartung
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 = 9:28=20 PM
Subject: Constant buzzing - can = it be=20 killed!

Is there anything, anything that y= ou can put in=20 between a power outlet and your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving = me up=20 the wall. I literally can't record because of it.=A0 It comes out o= f my=20 amps by itself, my computer with guitar plugged into it directly,=20 etc.=A0=A0 It is not my guitar cables, or the ground in the guitar. I= =20 have eliminated these as the source. It is most definitely caused withi= n the=20 circuit of the wiring in my house.=A0 I have no reastat light controlle= rs=20 in my basement, which was the cause of the noise when I was upstairs, b= ut=20 turned them off.=A0=A0=A0 There has to be something, or this will=20 me insane.
=A0
Kris
=A0
=A0



--
ReUse, an introspective= textural aural
www.myspace.c= om/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001517402dc2c3caf0048181df85-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 08:39:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78E413BED9; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18JqU57jvIJ3d+rKFzilx8ODrlrptoQLTLaHOXXdH dqso/a2XHAvFS7 Message-ID: <4B98AC52.90400@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:39:46 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Chicago feedback References: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> <4B976EE2.50706@tiscali.co.uk> <4B986436.7040602@mhorse.com> <58521FC1-265A-427D-9E77-F9F9E75D640A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58521FC1-265A-427D-9E77-F9F9E75D640A@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060703010709050806000003" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.57999999999999996,0.57999999999999996 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:39:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060703010709050806000003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit reminds me of alvin lucier and john cage. we tried doing this at school too. it's a lot of fun. Am 3/11/10 5:43 AM, schrieb Christopher Darrow: > > Nice. I love it. > > Strange... I love a lot of things I hear on this list but rarely write > to say that unless I actually have something interesting to add. > > So I'm wondering why I feel compelled to in this case. I think > possibly because I'm still bogged down by complexity, nearing the end > of a 3 year struggle to make it simple again (while retaining the > advantages I began this journey for.) Or it is the idea of reversal, > where the artists become the audience and, dissolving that barrier, so > the audience feels like part of the art. Or perhaps it's just that I > felt like I was in that room too for a second. Or because I know most > "experimental" attempts like that fail musically (in my opinion) so > it's quite a joy when that sort of approach /really/ works. Or, > because I am from Chicago originally! > > Anyway, Thank you for sharing! > > > ---Christopher. > > > > > On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> This is tangentially related...possibly interesting. I did a loopy >> improv set w/my tape decks last night in Chicago, at a very >> open-minded establishment called Ronny's. One of the other acts >> playing, called Sunglasses, had a fascinating approach. They had a >> couple of cheap Yamaha keyboards, plus two or three pedals each, >> mainly delays and some fuzz. Their set started with both of them >> playing a few massive notes on the keys, then twiddling knobs for a >> moment, then they simply stepped back from their gear, grabbed their >> beers and simply let the echoes die down, listening along with the >> crowd. Not only was it interesting musically, hearing different >> things emerge as the delays overlapped and faded away at different >> rates, but somehow it was fascinating to watch them...listen. I can't >> quite explain it, but there was something great about these two guys >> simply drinking some beer and being totally absorbed in the sound >> they'd created. They nodded their heads a bit, even chatted for a >> second about what was going on, then simply closed their eyes and >> waited along with the rest of us for the ten minutes or so until all >> sound had disappeared. >> >> Definitely made me think about what makes a good performance, because >> this went against most rules that I know. Unlikely as it sounds, >> their shtick totally worked for me, on many levels, I think because >> they clearly knew what they were going for, and were intently >> involved in it, even if more as listener than performer. >> >> For a longer description, here's my tour diary (the earlier dates >> have yet to be filled in).. http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/spring10.htm >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> > -- Nadia Salom http://www.nirmala07.net http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 --------------060703010709050806000003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit reminds me of alvin lucier and john cage. we tried doing this at school too. it's a lot of fun.

Am 3/11/10 5:43 AM, schrieb Christopher Darrow:

Nice. I love it. 

Strange... I love a lot of things I hear on this list but rarely write to say that unless I actually have something interesting to add. 

So I'm wondering why I feel compelled to in this case. I think possibly because I'm still bogged down by complexity, nearing the end of a 3 year struggle to make it simple again (while retaining the advantages I began this journey for.) Or it is the idea of reversal, where the artists become the audience and, dissolving that barrier, so the audience feels like part of the art. Or perhaps it's just that I felt like I was in that room too for a second. Or because I know most "experimental" attempts like that fail musically (in my opinion) so it's quite a joy when that sort of approach really works. Or, because I am from Chicago originally! 

Anyway, Thank you for sharing!


---Christopher.




On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote:

This is tangentially related...possibly interesting. I did a loopy improv set w/my tape decks last night in Chicago, at a very open-minded establishment called Ronny's. One of the other acts playing, called Sunglasses, had a fascinating approach. They had a couple of cheap Yamaha keyboards, plus two or three pedals each, mainly delays and some fuzz. Their set started with both of them playing a few massive notes on the keys, then twiddling knobs for a moment, then they simply stepped back from their gear, grabbed their beers and simply let the echoes die down, listening along with the crowd. Not only was it interesting musically, hearing different things emerge as the delays overlapped and faded away at different rates, but somehow it was fascinating to watch them...listen. I can't quite explain it, but there was something great about these two guys simply drinking some beer and being totally absorbed in the sound they'd created. They nodded their heads a bit, even chatted for a second about what was going on, then simply closed their eyes and waited along with the rest of us for the ten minutes or so until all sound had disappeared.

Definitely made me think about what makes a good performance, because this went against most rules that I know. Unlikely as it sounds, their shtick totally worked for me, on many levels, I think because they clearly knew what they were going for, and were intently involved in it, even if more as listener than performer.

For a longer description, here's my tour diary (the earlier dates have yet to be filled in).. http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/spring10.htm

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com





-- 
Nadia Salom
http://www.nirmala07.net
http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07
--------------060703010709050806000003-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 09:46:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E19283BEDF; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dfTuaxFTbU0ZfdWWixfQZC1k7f08OZJjLhOvbg+BAOc=; b=qb5VqALbcYMotXlmwUzaz6GBd6NGMm3hBON8BPMKbar5i05gDYAyR0BrcGAciUGdXv +Oz+JsyOa61zeOlHTfkDHF7t6ETFB6ygsBoDZW/TwjxfPImSMzcKQWLz8EmSsrHtUO/n 2dwPJyOtXhPcx3sz53wveZvBsviHWq0+o7Uns= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GNKzbI443T7Vsm2gxvO9cjqP8coc/G/HfNsXo19rb+c5cOq44VfszTQT4+UyHJbAT+ ST9n02vwQOYOHJFUDpxZW4jp7Q3Sqw7fGvujExJFhwx2297UEHFsoTzlD8m9giF3SXDG EP7CIkHNJQ+AYS3MD1ZhV9xdtIJCiOlb01ZTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:46:03 +0000 Message-ID: <5d9904371003110146m174bb904w5ceeb8bde1b0bf40@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MF-101 mini review OT From: Mark McGlinchey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Wilson Effects (http://www.wilsoneffects.com) have a great reputation for making excellent sounding and very flexible wahs (if you get one of the higher end models). For instance you can get a Rippah wah with a 6 position selector for the Q. Great guy to deal with too. On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:03 AM, William Walker wr= ote: > Thanks Andy that sounds great especially the volume compensation as the > resonance rises. The M-9 has some good filters but I'm using it almost > exclusively for delay effects and because it is the last thing in my sign= al > chain before the amps, its not the ideal location for filters like this. > What I really want is a combination wah/ filter with the pedal built in s= o I > can simply put it at the front of my effects chain where it would be more > useful. I actually have no room on my board for anything else which is wh= y a > wah pedal type effect would be easier to park on the floor next to my boa= rd > when I want to use it. =A0Most wah pedals I've used add some dirt and i'd= like > to find a really clean sounding one. Any suggestions anybody? Ive owned a= n > RMC =A0a Fulltone Clyde and a dunlop 95Q which was pretty cool in that it > turned on in the heal down position like a Morley Bad Horsey, no obnoxiou= s > toe click, but added slight gain boost and dirt which I'm trying to avoid= . > =A0Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 10:16:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AABE3BEE6; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 663265.42959.bm@omp123.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268302572; bh=Bf7dLbggrvy6sRow4BIULDaGXN06dO+SHxFBt0DNm7Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aPV9SkHs8LNdOX+qjKrqKaEdQA5GQQ+k1Sa5BE6B26hiVCbvG3ZjFT0fOdlUDct5KRLRenxVSTUNLa6EDFIquLD0sM3/0ZUquk1cF2joc9NUeHwoIC7SUrUw3EfdO4RteF7XUCF51molYap3bcJEdw1ShnsP8hvi7L7EnfDkmME= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lEpwodTaYRdWY3DZylhp3LZ62j1I3D/4AI6I0HAeO6/kS5V6RRKRtlHVIuBDdJ8ECGSC81wAWauS6mt7SbU0bC20u26tJLK3ieFUdeTdoNsCXjMu4sViV8k/XmS5KCz+CBpYeTKolNNLcCt4i/76UJTaDlm8OYBVd66qL/4wVc0=; Message-ID: <546360.11670.qm@web65602.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jk_6SWcVM1nE_IaAeVh4IhfyQxwFesEFzHqSh_GFO.wOhUP .GbttKLtHtnEzTLzadGPFkQ.rb9L3trHqHE14CbSQi8805u.D_BIM.c2mdPO K6ZYQtZL8SW0L2iRnUoffVPzWIUVE9odCRGWLy45W7kjafCNgCdp9sCdBYzO BWwSoI_0qxfEeuR9GKapZHgH4_FiC8uTgGKwxYJN.BQGqmrIoXAvA2acylYC 8LLBb0c02gDrsdi7aE17frxmm2qrOPoyHqh2C3Qk24n3RwW.Ko_SVGTcAwGW zn1fkMw2lFKh5IT19wRR6_gWYlzTAiANjh4Z03FD3JzKQLLjn4dP0Iu52qJH z X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: MF-101 mini review OT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5_XPFD.A.0BG.tLMmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:16:13 +0000 (UTC) I would suggest the Zvex Wah probe http://zvex.com/wahprobe.html=A0=0Ait is= not a pedal but a plate with RF energy which controls the wah. It takes ge= tting used to, especially when the battery is not fresh:) but it sounds rea= lly god to my ears=0A=0AANtony Hequet=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ---= -=0AFrom: William Walker =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com=0ASent: Thu, March 11, 2010 3:03:16 AM=0ASubject: MF-101 m= ini review OT=0A=0AThanks Andy that sounds great especially the volume comp= ensation as the resonance rises. The M-9 has some good filters but I'm usin= g it almost exclusively for delay effects and because it is the last thing = in my signal chain before the amps, its not the ideal location for filters = like this. What I really want is a combination wah/ filter with the pedal b= uilt in so I can simply put it at the front of my effects chain where it wo= uld be more useful. I actually have no room on my board for anything else w= hich is why a wah pedal type effect would be easier to park on the floor ne= xt to my board when I want to use it.=A0 Most wah pedals I've used add some= dirt and i'd like to find a really clean sounding one. Any suggestions any= body? Ive owned an RMC=A0 a Fulltone Clyde and a dunlop 95Q which was prett= y cool in that it turned on in the heal down position like a Morley Bad Hor= sey, no obnoxious toe click, but added slight gain boost and dirt which I'm= trying to avoid.=0ABill=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 10:24:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBE673BEE7; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2aaiXlIOv4arGoai/QoFnBeFm4lQQpZ5yqmq88izVpo=; b=S61WSA8MWu1O0MPHKFnmjZSH1iLQVArNQvik2XDXN8gh2lk8y4Dmv7JfRfdoupijw/ /0AFRldwB5p2GDxZqqLXRPQIt0ir6V325loGSRK1a0ns5gTeWsyW+Wt5eLHmFNEXvKEf eITDQ8ftynvHRJZPNIq/806O19qN9tASAwggc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RTi64uYCIg0w93NEVKaF8dlYFXlLEzqG+HtNQ+FLKh82/eox9ns2yO4yOlZ+2BI18i UFihGRLEE0C0gIwz8e7/qFsUZRQa9T5U/cBlpGcEDpqUFLVnWDBeI5AlAAiyfJL20H4d bA/o2gC6/nEJcmGdxiVozwuwf38t9WdwfMGx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <18395.72.51.1268272704.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <13715.216.1266076843.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <11319.216.1266115456.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <18395.72.51.1268272704.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:24:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [New Release] - Premonition Factory- 59 airplanes waiting for New York From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_1UGZ.A.aPG.dTMmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:24:29 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa wro= te: > Loving the CD. > Track 5 has a few scary moments though. > I think # 60 was circling and waiting for a landing. :) Thanks Andre! Yes, track 5 is pretty dark and scary, as well as track 3. It's a very detuned soundscape combined with classical piano. I played it live at the loopfest last Saturday, some people told me they got chicken skin (is that the right word?) , something like electric hair ;-) http://premonitionfactory.bandcamp.com/track/59-airplanes-waiting-for-new-y= ork --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 11:36:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9A0E3BEE7; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:36:38 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <16139.72.51.1268269773.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Message-ID: <20100311113638.14630@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <16139.72.51.1268269773.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1++wJVl3bS+uOIwg/lKKSicPxSOIlhfaC+cWVdwmO phWBmGy2+/xRxwRlju0kdzfysrsCGA8D6b3Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: p7nzI/5QTlI8VMF+jGlrmBFOU2poZRk4 X-FuHaFi: 0.64000000000000001 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andre yeah, I was gonna post Carlos Vamos next... :-)) That's especially also a very beautiful piece (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpLIiozVWJo) I used to listen to it for hours... Love it!! Fabio, when you listen to various two-handed tapping guitarists, they sound much different (esp. from Stanley Jordan ;-). best regards Buzap -- GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 11:44:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85D6D3BEF1; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:44:54 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4B988BF7.60305@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <20100311114454.14670@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4B988BF7.60305@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) (budget studio) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19c8BFpjVNcrOMJfBTPgvrcfdK5iO3ioyx8arbhDs 4d8NxcOQiYN9+x7vm1wF7+LgCunVqXnnjw+g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: hK2tI9BvZDIrCMcogWc28iN5emhmYwHE X-FuHaFi: 0.62 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick > This begs the question, if you had the smallest budget possible, what > would you invest in if you had to build > a computer music studio from scratch. If I'd start all over again: - Lenovo Laptop (Windows) - Reaper DAW !! - Bidule + Mobius for live setup - free VSTs - possibly some Native Instruments components (i.e. Komplete with Guitar Rig, Battery, Reaktor...) I'm really very much impressed with Reaper and it's flexibility (unlimited routing, side-chaining, midi/audio mixing, custom actions...) and stability. If I wasn't invested in Logic Pro (which is actually also a great buy incl. Mainstage, virtual instruments, effects, loops...) + Mac, I'd switch to PC + Reaper. best regards Buzap -- GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 11:51:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6C113BEF3; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:51:31 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/cCiBViTvcbtsz3gL+RMx4XJ0+GtxjlKF25uKpgD xUegvv7+1x4vaSylhlUeB+FXulMYC5lCEg6g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: J7D9CtVxfW47SpNBjGRo/CVudmllcgV8 X-FuHaFi: 0.66000000000000003 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per yeah, this Greg guy is really impressive. > A nice thing, that attracts me, with the Stick is that it allows you to > make a helluvalottanoise without the need for putting some parts into > a looper. You can pretty much play like a solo pianist improvising, I guess. And you have the freedom to move into and out of a looper in between, giving the music more time to breathe. Aah... I'm still listening to Carlos Vamos "Vamosia" - I like the acoustic version even more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD-Udgl5ajQ Love this piece... Buzap -- GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 11:59:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6ED43BEF4; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6hUS3kCR1DGrvZvYhJwUryRf+sGrOb1OddUIF0wm+C8=; b=VCjFftZEjhmlXX2kW/UyFRLHW1dE9O2OAA3T9J7897y8zpExY7of8j20RLjlx/8o55 NwdcJPFz/liTKXSOpGuBad1ARsJUR6zmhdZBvx7qHdCydMEDX+zIDC4con+I8HaIfvQX aajfdn2o6VT7Id15++oxBC/wv6C5l+bT2UHM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qXT74Gs2M/K6066X2ovjaY7N6UqnEnO/eomhgBdDtHEIEOLFrckBqnUv22F027+q/H R4e/jMFtx13dtTeZ+NXQG0+iLxebvqDyLpKGNXILh0bYzYZNcZamPgXElF8PTta9RCIP Z9bF3AptFFu/FegnPxJzdDQpiKjCyUf9N7cj4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100311114454.14670@gmx.net> References: <4B988BF7.60305@cruzio.com> <20100311114454.14670@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:59:42 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003110359g666d964eg1b691f29d9e81315@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) (budget studio) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:59:43 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > If I wasn't invested in Logic Pro (which is actually also a great buy incl. Mainstage, virtual instruments, effects, loops...) + Mac, I'd switch to PC + Reaper. These day's an Apple pc is just as good as any other running Windows. The utility that makes that possible is Bootcamp and comes with any OS X box. It requires the user to restart the machine to boot into Windows or OS X. So you can actually have both the Reaper stuff and the Logic stuff ready to go under your fingertips. Myself I've used an Apple pc for Windows software many years, running SoundForge, Mobius and some Windows only VST plugins. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:07:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24E683BF04; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DoViX600bcoG9QE5sH2wqaO6pUSNEYNQ0ymbzDD817E=; b=d0gNyFxTz19LYPG5BKB7/T7PL21LGUxW7Y/c+YURUdc+TPUrCiu6Yr/Oe8U6rYqkqC JdDaSf8esXtHxD6ckRfWA3B4EP6ScIMi5PKCg0j41KP0i4tavRUJMcK0UiZbjL63SDWT 5ztYFMLxef49VvfR0e7kr0dI8TkLc3VR8TGsU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Yx0z9oxCpkqSrLFeq27Qh9SHPtyJ8/u3hoDngBzGeHwxhyZ73Nln8FrwwsdeGOwNM5 YUUWaDjrsebXhIbCNqLG0MNw37vJGucJG3blxpJGsIFNdcsH2B/CxLCbsmMehsMaOHKe 8BxxhLfydJsZrQk61SVlOJ/qFMITr4uSjt6T8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:07:44 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003110407g40a0733ar4e5aed097ae16f5d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:07:46 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Aah... I'm still listening to Carlos Vamos "Vamosia" - I like the acoustic version even more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD-Udgl5ajQ > Love this piece... Me too. Especially the stick he plays first at 1:47. That theme could do well as a tune in its own right without a lot of the other music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:20:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C54C3BF04; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 361383261/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.224.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.224.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYBAPpumEtPRuDh/2dsb2JhbAAHkl7EaYR6BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,620,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="361383261" Message-ID: <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:20:39 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Per said >> A nice thing, that attracts me, with the Stick is that it allows you to >> make a helluvalottanoise without the need for putting some parts into >> a looper. ? ...but that's possible with most guitar related (and ancestor) instruments. Downside with the stick is that the range of tones to be got by varying the playing technique is (...a quick count..) .....one. Maybe not an issue, but for me it takes away about 90% of the music. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:23:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B78953BF07; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I+X8T6KlgRi5/93kcRCglbS8KXke8KhxWRGNkzZktGI=; b=T74euy0tzdCczYF8jP2I5nI2oQCnzA35N5bW1OT/hJi9cygOPmsFPh6XDzwB2N6Y3r 14vpNgkEURNInux675/O+ZPeGJf7qzfIMONIrxnuTjYylfdCFFeuR1SNbCeKGuJAvaQ6 Kcb9E+SsJwU0YOkwaz9tYTX3zAQ7/nwKm0OcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BEy5IHGHVM4ZM9n+4fAVTyHUbPMOQ7FmKSn+9KAlPw67qva7XjAw8QEP0epj1YPzrz 6AuKSgznuusQ7rwqCBRmiwhRDsLN81zUS0NebPqGI2LLXs40DMfejbkNkSSdodUIiPu2 ff+oh9LtQmVKsGcOE4qFJBCA+HCdTIsAI8NjA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:23:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325557a9ae0041a0481857acb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:23:22 +0000 (UTC) --000325557a9ae0041a0481857acb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My preferred one ! Thanks for pointing to the new version ! Here is a clip with intensive use of this plugin, I've just posted in the past: http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Is_it_rain.mp3 fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/3/11 Art Simon > For me, it's glitch: > http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ > (BTW, this discussion got me back to the website to see there is a new > update, the first in 4 years! Cool!) > > > --000325557a9ae0041a0481857acb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My preferred one ! Thanks for pointing to the new version !
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--000325557a9ae0041a0481857acb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:28:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5ED83BF12; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OMQuUdufMPMx97egsLoMGcoIlJbOxDsSgHH1Z10osJs=; b=SW5OwhQ9gSrVbMEW0TUfhBi9tb6CUXWMKI/N1HGgLUtwvmWOr2eeHqVQBLEAaymUV2 RbnUrrLCgnsjrY8JZl7LGHBINV3/T9e8HBSmcChLeoGJL+pfvYEytm2nSe5hVcCV09Rc khnGub3wQksvaYDOor5vYTebRIpj9WBts7HmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VCpFM91BsmWvDPqW+hbJelteIsredDGjqFaWnrKntOye5W6UTGi5w9IJaSqS6v+rFU Bt4Hk6MELRA2YEP6V9XG5Oj76gsHoA1J5/qfGI0pADYZfw/e6RueFedVLGfhu3uE1C0T Cnq57u38YWG000sqhAwZDRZeue4s0bu4Dsm+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:28:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be3107fea2f0481858e07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:28:49 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be3107fea2f0481858e07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Beautiful indeed ! fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/3/11 Buzap Buzap buzap@gmx.net > Aah... I'm still listening to Carlos Vamos "Vamosia" - I like the acoustic > version even more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD-Udgl5ajQ > Love this piece... > --0015174be3107fea2f0481858e07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beautiful indeed !
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Love this piece...

--0015174be3107fea2f0481858e07-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:32:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B39D3BF18; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=LROEI7FTTMceDxCyipY0Sdb/e2bkixm8FVbj40bF5pT3YGM70VRCiOTk2QtB2I8TNSuhT7BBMnlPNkYgjP6kgQuO8Z9LuQY7Y1BGQTwd5IFxvqVPelkzHniD8NFp5cS9/2yI+Ckn96bI599ah03Ep1pnBzv4Lene+hlg+iqR/K0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1268310746; bh=nCzE+0Rexj0IylHOTMTc/XwOGc1fJDHK2mdsStI4pc8=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=6Hl5a/Ocin5PuHOKE1avZ4qpx0JkObgrYUc9tGj3qrD6xvS6KGKT0w+ypNuC3EXYEila6f1f1ZXGTO03rKOvoOFv21ckBpCvshPktGYyV+F3FtZlqUzsxNvkdGsFaVzosO5XTIOOuDSRpv3h9BZRwwQxaJjo4WC1lVSnba3xLb0= X-Yahoo-SMTP: Wja6d0eswBB5USlzMGJfYiy3_f3yZT_rcIkk.o2JqPjgXDULofG_jp1cfc4- X-YMail-OSG: 04oaz9oVM1kOVmQqKnzFtArciVoEqutIpfWqw4TrRMCm6J04_4h84BBqvCLIaksCHfx6lRXIyNAAPXKbNXvkcoU7m2_9B2QVzex5DakzuDVqOh8T8TLefwr_4Be92jOrO98ZDPdF9QeCiItv.WrK32Zqn0mn0UB1hZ1n.3Za2LilDYdVeA6ojawozFmzqA0d3qiW31xefGb7JWRJxNFC_oojjeTRPB4p7rTFx4Q6ksYXmz7bh4uIfK6kLvbkRh6iHN.Oz_yNkl575xi2r9Pu3zkdiIs4Ks14TTQanEc- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Richard Graham Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1075.2) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-93252910 Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:32:25 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1075.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:32:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-93252910 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Raul. Thanks for this. Really great to use Glitch again. Ricky On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:23, Fabio_A wrote: > My preferred one ! Thanks for pointing to the new version ! > > Here is a clip with intensive use of this plugin, I've just posted > in the past: > http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Is_it_rain.mp3 > > > fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > 2010/3/11 Art Simon > For me, it's glitch: > http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ > (BTW, this discussion got me back to the website to see there is a > new update, the first in 4 years! Cool!) > > --Apple-Mail-1-93252910 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Raul. Thanks for this. Really great to use Glitch again.

Ricky

On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:23, Fabio_A wrote:

My preferred one ! Thanks for pointing to the new version !
 
Here is a clip with intensive use of this plugin, I've just posted in the past:
 
 
fabio
2010/3/11 Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>
For me, it's glitch:
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/
(BTW, this discussion got me back to the website to see there is a new update, the first in 4 years! Cool!)

 

--Apple-Mail-1-93252910-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:34:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9069E3BF26; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8g8qLfYuKeNvSV3QYXVL18Riilb8ecZZlQacri0iUoI=; b=Eu9Fe6rVFZoAbh4Uw8Gjzdop6il6BAS8HzUxASwRHPwaxI0jHUV7y/rEroKl+Nmrz7 2tewEyma9asaAPuw4t/VEu2IdH+AherztGdcGdb+b7eK8wEj1VaI408kb6HV4NgbfKFf P7XUeZA1fqTSoLcs9Jo62B0G+01BvXOG6EQRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nlmEynEhlPSI7RNuh3l/J4ufn24sWzAdJ79VxYVRd+2T9dXYuEW293QZEEVB5yrbBa s6EnM0/vRehOvmeVH4vbsyp19kJxH837YjOYoq5uHsrdgqsldX8PX0PU+TVY5t4nliHs kT9WQICZd/uWlEbFhmVv7PyiJttt/deEkp1Ho= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:34:08 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003110434m291a9a7rff09939e12cf007e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7s8Sd.A.3UB.CNOmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:34:10 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Per said >>> >>> =C2=A0A nice thing, that attracts me, with the Stick is that it allows = you to >>> make a helluvalottanoise without the need for putting some parts into >>> a looper. > > ? > ...but that's possible with most guitar related (and ancestor) > instruments. Certainly. But I was referring to the option to play it like two "jamming" instruments, using one hand on each side of the fretboard and each side going out through separate outputs through different amp rigs. That particular multitasking quality is rarely found in other instruments, except the piano, the harp and similar. > Downside with the stick is that the range of tones to be got > by varying the playing technique is (...a quick count..) > .....one. Maybe not an issue, but for me it takes away > about 90% of the music. Yes, but I don't have a problem with that as I can pick up another instrument anytime. I'm more wooed by the multitasking orchestral aspects of the Stick. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:39:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D4F83BF37; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=awz7icZVPnGCARrzRr7HSF9owaqDk/SftrEZJASVZpI=; b=VC8FkMNaRylkRJvx2LgrakK92Bomgwh0U5qSDxgZplEGHvoPGtp092yAvkpVHt5hX4 Lbc0bx3mg9Hy7+ChFXDSMLJOiDhNIqF4EeS7tBn33d1bCAxS9psV2hSNJztTzeb33xHh VfoGkrp9Vmk/ILjw3fKlR6YnP/GkR5PtcA8g8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=dPPcsOmFNjOlgaSknnSxh2srs7u74yeRHFt7IBHwFXDamIE2b+o0WY5Sj6s46HncdX J3+hW4+BA0XJgZLc5Kwydkf4qC8YsxaMSDsYvC1t5emR2Q19Z/DfEW/EkrPkurv+4pAk pt6kNaf1RD5L69gBiMY7FTnb/DF5ikWL+nsAo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20100311114454.14670@gmx.net> References: <4B988BF7.60305@cruzio.com> <20100311114454.14670@gmx.net> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:39:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8c4d43ae5c30226c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003110439u55abb896u64be3c72d11e00d9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) (budget studio) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e9ab5658cd36048185b4f7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:39:25 +0000 (UTC) --001485e9ab5658cd36048185b4f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I too LOVE Reaper.. I find that for audio it better than logic actually.. So for fun I use Logic, but for work (where I need small things done fast) I still us Reaper... on the Mac btw... Mark > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001485e9ab5658cd36048185b4f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I too LOVE Reaper.. I find that for audio it better than logic actually.. S= o for fun I use Logic, but for work (where I need small things done fast) I= still us Reaper... on the Mac btw...

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--001485e9ab5658cd36048185b4f7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:51:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0804C3BF47; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=0864enUQd5sGw4bBDBcxBJ1ZVZBCX7bRVSQSDHeeRyI=; b=XXiJ2cdMa3KZfaUW5//vFJsKWEMpivGGlkC/BS3vJ+PPP4hSWJ04Kt3wuHrObR9RX1 GIoWCi3ane1i922N9ehXZRqcjodbmBEXGiXkzo43nLEDV3wrQC20ONg8I2v0iAbEPndm 9ChgBnyyUvSxRX8KUeYeUAGrxdyDN1P8eqOaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YI1y/elitgDxctbnxSfjaa5uNcUYMTtfLfpu62T8ohShDosj2kjEM6DlEGaZYJDjaF LGAzf+8N7QQz8Oxn8FkAlYw//M1G/cHqU4501DWbHVCh7mX861pWYIEGN+/9iOJppShm dqLPTX56vSHncFFA2zNGBN10GoG6u8HlA+vVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:51:30 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3ce5ba1feb974704 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003110451i6b72eebaj4d7335bb189a67d2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d7e4e3daf2048185e0d4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:51:52 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0d7e4e3daf2048185e0d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Downside with the stick is that the range of tones to be got > by varying the playing technique is (...a quick count..) > .....one. Maybe not an issue, but for me it takes away > about 90% of the music. > > andy butler > > Tad harsh Andy.. but I agree you would think so by watching most stick players.. I think its a amazing instrument, and I would love to get MY hands on one.. Im sure that the TYPE of players it attracts results in that sound, Im certain the instrument its self can do alot more... which makes it quite exiting, an unexplored instrument! Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0d7e4e3daf2048185e0d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Downside with the stick is that the range of tones to be got
by varying the playing technique is (...a quick count..)
.....one. Maybe not an issue, but for me it takes away
about 90% of the music.

andy butler


Tad harsh Andy.. but I agree you would think = so by watching most stick players.. I think its a amazing instrument, and I= would love to get MY hands on one.. Im sure that the TYPE of players it at= tracts results in that sound, Im certain the instrument its self can do alo= t more... which makes it quite exiting, an unexplored instrument!

Mark


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--000e0ce0af6e9fc6d9048185e85f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 12:55:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70EE73BF5D; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 857867.9264.bm@omp110.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268312139; bh=YcfdIAR8HxJTISvBheSNexk+lsxU3+epi8KWhihOqnU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZNz0O+hktIxtH5Nm6YS7OJe3BmK+cLSMjO0nXk5azbG/cNcm9Q417ofi30ynXYj1scR2CyZWLx2gSlCpOdHvU2tx8RBqg24wb/YfKkIOgUqD5V84a2ZWr8zLSXj5TBHCil12TWEvA/LspICwvMhih4TcNrfkzIXCBU40s+ThOgc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6VYatINUJXKTT/b7esYCdAMsELCpWHX9P0mXNZHOwkPEGGh5L2bIewYUxRp+sYPRnsyAOZGNf4t7hVaF7bqtTf48BqbMf2N5EJSOa1yAe7s9FZzIV3I++LLZb4IOiN3wg414z0S6iO60Wtu6Fk60o4Mv1ioofAQRaW1dvrfrhFY=; Message-ID: <172969.21609.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GOQ.xfkVM1n2m4dCjxTVLb1lV28hCkFJ5iMCROil3jZkzP_ 2RmpLEyUz1lU5UX1lT7MPi3YCaH5fHZPqh4_VlwC2TaMphlNOJuHaz0pa1zU Q1wsBiwKsCYJ_JPeBKIImNv6KwXGbQSXkFVDtQL11aCIk.6cpnWpz_OnV5cn WUhkrc7joyWJtYmA81WGenQjD2OenjoOa74EMnZWnXiCUMQGisfN4uqX0Hgq Q_tp0xTiNom18ExHMPRuAlgG4V7Z02.SPilfsbqmEQaHbdSbdkpDey2wGLhN 8ww..Qf5ErhbFf7cIshw_SpoF3EvBzfnaRuBAwnuL.QkRwly2LEBdz4mH4lY wFKDRywidwL24324Lukcl5n6lYNcvg9JH X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:55:39 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:55:40 +0000 (UTC) I must disagree with you Andy regarding palying techniques with the stick. = I play a ten string graphite, I am certainly not a virtuoso as the voice an= d composition are my main focus. On the other hand as a composer and oneman= band I am interested in tone, texture, etc... There are a lot of sounds yo= u can get from that instrument. Most players are focused on the two handed= =A0 virtuosity aspect so other aspects of the instrument are not brought to= light. =0AUless of course I have misunderstood the meaning of your comment= =0A=0AAntony Hequet=0Apoet composer performer=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Mes= sage ----=0AFrom: andy butler =0ATo: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Thu, March 11, 2010 1:20:39 PM=0ASubject: Re:= Enver Izmailov (guitarist)=0A=0APer said=0A>>=A0 A nice thing, that attrac= ts me, with the Stick is that it allows you to=0A>> make a helluvalottanois= e without the need for putting some parts into=0A>> a looper.=0A=0A?=0A...b= ut that's possible with most guitar related (and ancestor)=0Ainstruments.= =0ADownside with the stick is that the range of tones to be got=0Aby varyin= g the playing technique is (...a quick count..)=0A.....one. Maybe not an is= sue, but for me it takes away=0Aabout 90% of the music.=0A=0Aandy butler=0A= =0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 13:34:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 527DD3BF39; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=H1hOQCjxKO94mlmzVJsrsofzMNXB1JqifeQZiIdeTBkyYbWSXsJQYJx1Ni78pLdudNDBTgvDW/WM4MCQLtMtixr1BqNOQ7zxt9NLDYTM1t4zjH0Gr8a4uNx1ZrmgvGu6ID70psV9bqAR0DYVewpAVVn+3GK6RunvLPZgcAaIXT4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1268314478; bh=UZyP8mOhwmANLRxmM0BSauF4fXuSNTQfVmQUrl2H5gA=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=XCbBb4S9RJymX7v8mNYbCAtUYOGNozs7rWExvPWdC0dOJ951bLZc1otqcjeYZcV67TPVZ9VxcmcVXuG8wNOfpFanTaxArHJoMyMgWEl88sC1tr0PrN5AEwxDl+GM0XgKOdbvyWGTVsIGXI36wX3eA7SRwuUGRCDUWESA2C2qyYs= X-Yahoo-SMTP: Wja6d0eswBB5USlzMGJfYiy3_f3yZT_rcIkk.o2JqPjgXDULofG_jp1cfc4- X-YMail-OSG: xUYho0IVM1mTHAocktQ3ZvC._O_48foBEBbLYKd1HeOutU8DzEzyhs08nH5gIxQ1n3cG8r2vGkoMPhJLoMtCzdzu9B5iXybvWezXjumSlQwCLnzexMV1ek7rcqCNWaqHVmgaN68jb0.OlnNcQ2zVSclmoC7dEkogHSKlXGDRhLV6uuQjB4dxZpOVxX6mJ5z7pU3pOjfmbPNJVuwxq3b_ocM84v_t7PtFXKjRmYDbNQs9CltMqNd6ljHSueRGdIoKtLI9IyWzjOwF2ARbyb7p9iXyBqYHxA5C X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Richard Graham Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1075.2) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-96985839 Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:34:38 +0000 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003110453l8edac33j653686c6d578c700@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003110453l8edac33j653686c6d578c700@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <226014A5-B2B9-4DB4-971F-6DEE0BB6FE57@btinternet.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1075.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:34:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-96985839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Select no VFX wizard file. Rock. On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark francombe wrote: > Pst.. Re this VFX thing.. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows > how it works? > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --Apple-Mail-2-96985839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Select no VFX wizard file. Rock.


On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark francombe wrote:

Pst.. Re this VFX thing.. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows how it works?





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--Apple-Mail-2-96985839-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 14:03:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C1193BF1C; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=vxHAP18ZXpDEngqy4yk3a1r96GtoMWdtEEFakBdnnyU=; b=v8scPiCdfXk8Fi3YStspYVKm9DOD319B26IbJ3NvOmQ1VuVPZIMIA9M+EMiTxNob18 HEw42pd3sydzdZFAF1RRgKp2wu3TGMWAAeGqtV0+Zg3BcN/4hHdsklL4eHa/3XRPo+Av GHUCeWu7nsV8JYVVt5CNDssZGfytw/b87Ph2M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=bPHbyXuzqsvabAp5PFmxL8Pdk5DeFwBMFWnFDYIkdZYgKUNvadkCO+X/V0JSR6MAE/ PE74e941OlTNC2YeKBQrA9wI9XJDGxF6IKYdhOUPhof7SvMNGY/AdO/vHKtlstkFvIki luJPc4Z+vG84Vny7W9PEj1Nfdbst502dYIzBk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <226014A5-B2B9-4DB4-971F-6DEE0BB6FE57@btinternet.com> References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003110453l8edac33j653686c6d578c700@mail.gmail.com> <226014A5-B2B9-4DB4-971F-6DEE0BB6FE57@btinternet.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:03:10 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 881f7767e2ce886d Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003110603p27d54cd0q1db38873dab95d82@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f76b87e2bf6dc048186e125 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:03:33 +0000 (UTC) --00c09f76b87e2bf6dc048186e125 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ha ha.. I understand the import part... then I get the VFX thing,.. thanks! But what is this Rock of which you speak? Mark On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Graham < rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote: > Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Select no VFX wizard file. > Rock. > > > On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark francombe wrote: > > Pst.. Re this VFX thing.. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows how it > works? > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00c09f76b87e2bf6dc048186e125 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ha ha.. I understand the import part... then I get the VFX thing,.. thanks!=
But what is this Rock of which you speak?

Mark

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Graham <rock.guitar= .guru@btinternet.com> wrote:
Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Selec= t no VFX wizard file. Rock.


On 11 Mar 2010, at= 12:53, mark francombe wrote:

Pst.. Re t= his VFX thing.. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows how it works?





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www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch



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http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--00c09f76b87e2bf6dc048186e125-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 14:13:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2833D3BF1F; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=NXqxYQRHB6vm9BodRZZ2Z138jY4iIga/nrzlqlt3LCQ=; b=axEgi1stxk5Zv++Ht+UcT2ST4pQqQfRIQw+nTVeWraAam8Dmuls7pCXb5OIL15CwJH WFtj0MpgxYB3FGQEcYcujWQv2bzwIS5IgEGNco56vF8qIJ3bhnfwbWVOPNTZXnVH3aes /WD8EcJ6e1kKhW94vo9sxYlhF2PL4uesOFQ8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=oPCZj1MOFuPWmY6FpVnvWlMZ5HQFAkq5eJmkHZNb3tA+MOIAArtM4vEVcWWCRCkYsL NlSVFAgtTRRhjyLVGO/BY/W0g/dnx93ZT7eyDFa1tx23nCSax8Hq9sl5uLW2qjK3pjmD Y0D76hTJ0nDLPIfBqYOiJEwE9pnkp364uNnPY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003110603p27d54cd0q1db38873dab95d82@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003110453l8edac33j653686c6d578c700@mail.gmail.com> <226014A5-B2B9-4DB4-971F-6DEE0BB6FE57@btinternet.com> <9ab0c76f1003110603p27d54cd0q1db38873dab95d82@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:12:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: adcd8e488b84e5aa Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003110612m343dd97eq4b119bf248695e7f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09fc2bdbea060bd04818703ae Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:13:10 +0000 (UTC) --00c09fc2bdbea060bd04818703ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No wait... um if i dont selct a VFX wizard file, then my OK button is greyed out, cant get any further... On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:03 PM, mark francombe wrote: > ha ha.. I understand the import part... then I get the VFX thing,.. thanks! > > But what is this Rock of which you speak? > > Mark > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Graham < > rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Select no VFX wizard >> file. Rock. >> >> >> On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark francombe wrote: >> >> Pst.. Re this VFX thing.. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows how it >> works? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00c09fc2bdbea060bd04818703ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No wait... um if i dont selct a VFX wizard file, then my OK button is greye= d out, cant get any further...

On Thu, Ma= r 11, 2010 at 3:03 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
ha ha.. I underst= and the import part... then I get the VFX thing,.. thanks!
But what is = this Rock of which you speak?

Mark

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard G= raham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote:=
Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Selec= t no VFX wizard file. Rock.


On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark = francombe wrote:

Pst.. Re this VFX thing= .. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows how it works?





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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch



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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch



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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--00c09fc2bdbea060bd04818703ae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 14:16:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06FCC3BF36; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=u36Pm6WVPVjLG+xRM/E/70o2899gDkIZ6NCD/aFSEtA=; b=jSJ7sXD+jDNNYjnKYUdf/x2V37LdYUc23C4NjRs+wD98OUeNqOa9MqueBpRdw3Ef44 wrFdjQC5sSuVwXgUjB8LG6OS+bAIFpJbJnY7vKV1qa0lgKlVH8XMbUqhBFvuykwnLRM2 j7qcpyNeMkFfTH6qVO3d5V5e/+gNYJKGpDR3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pAXUT8zFAfQugnVvkl3k0OArR9RGEXXZ+VJjaC2LkjCrYTnrX5Dvwwmg185kjaV0uX 7sjA1lI167ja8ySalm6lamgSqE87jQ6+6m0q2y+yz4m2HvnctRcdP7mDreBiWZmSdHtI BDYkWe3cvCOFVn3CLynq+4ow0Q+50oT8sjKE8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:16:50 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c1dfe57fb904818710c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:16:51 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c1dfe57fb904818710c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Just wondering my EDP is now set to 240v. What happens if a 250v power cable is used? can it be done? will it fry my unit? Thanx. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > Hi, I live in the UK > > some of my EDPS have come from abroad > > we use 240 over here > > i just used a small screwdriver ot move that over from 115 and fitted the > right three pin plug (it came with a euro lead) > > its worked fine. > > thanks > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:43:23 +0800 > > Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex > From: halimzainal@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hi, > Yeah it's on the back. I'm a bit scared to touch it. But might as well try. > Mine was originally set to 115v when i received it (is yours the same? 115v > and 240v). Thanx a lot for your help. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:31 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > > is there not a simple switch on the back marked as 120 that you slide over > with a small screwdriver to read 240? there is on mine > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:38:20 +0800 > Subject: re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex > From: halimzainal@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hi, > I just got the oberheim echoplex from the US. The only problem i'm facing > is that the voltage in Malaysia is 240v and the echoplex i got is 120v. Is > there any voltage selector on the oberheim echoplex so i can change it? > Thanx. > Halimski. > > > > ------------------------------ > Not got a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free > > > > ------------------------------ > We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell > us now > --001636c5c1dfe57fb904818710c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,
Just wondering my EDP is now set to 240v. What happens if a 250v pow= er cable is used? can it be done? will it fry my unit? Thanx.


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM, phillip wilso= n <phillwil= son@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I live in the UK

some of my EDPS have come from abroad

= we use 240 over here

i just used a small screwdriver ot move that ov= er from 115 and fitted the right three pin plug (it came with a euro lead)<= br>
its worked fine.

thanks

Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:43:= 23 +0800

Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Ec= hoplex
From: = halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hi,
Yea= h it's on the back. I'm a bit scared to touch it. But might as well= try. Mine was originally set to 115v when i received it (is yours the same= ? 115v and 240v). Thanx a lot for your help.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:31 PM, phillip wilson <phillwils= on@hotmail.com> wrote:
is there not a simple switch on the back marked as 120 that you slide over = with a small screwdriver to read 240? there is on mine

Date: Thu= , 25 Feb 2010 20:38:20 +0800
Subject: re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim = Echoplex
From: halimzaina= l@gmail.com
Hi,
I just got the oberheim echoplex from the US. Th= e only problem i'm facing is that the voltage in Malaysia is 240v and t= he echoplex i got is 120v. Is there any voltage selector on the oberheim ec= hoplex so i can change it? Thanx.
Halimski.



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--001636c5c1dfe57fb904818710c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 15:00:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89E773BF44; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8FqnZUIVlwDSq4XXELDbIg)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003110096 From: Kenn Lowy Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:00:16 -0500 In-reply-to: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:00:23 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_8FqnZUIVlwDSq4XXELDbIg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Besides playing guitar, being wrinklemuzik and looping stuff, I also play the stick and warr guitar. A good stick/warr musician can get all the tone and color that a guitarist can: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1TLoI9ofHE On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > Downside with the stick is that the range of tones to be got > by varying the playing technique is (...a quick count..) > .....one. Maybe not an issue, but for me it takes away > about 90% of the music. > > andy butler --Boundary_(ID_8FqnZUIVlwDSq4XXELDbIg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Besides playing guitar, being wrinklemuzik and looping stuff, I also play the stick and warr guitar. A good stick/warr musician can get all the tone and color that a guitarist can:



On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:

Downside with the stick is that the range of tones to be got
by varying the playing technique is (...a quick count..)
.....one. Maybe not an issue, but for me it takes away
about 90% of the music.

andy butler

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 15:45:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 898F83BF32; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vlNhhMPLIdT+DLShcTykCMxPvFqvSA45+idfM9HFua0=; b=UukuXAJMT5xPWbG7IqhWjvOJkglJjSsPf4GQvnwhdif+54QjWKdgq3wd6+O2TPWBQU 0DuohUYOA5cxETo4HzSD1DSr/6ksy5JH4PwwVxZYT+xT8tnojuP4jHlf9OqWheaK3kCL cCzsWbzFGJt8zwE3XE+3RVlPkzMFKxhxaT1C0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vp6XY1FZ24RleRQnPM2rnPE6WjEAitfKWVNYyhhCHv2DD5jcmJc3OJ4WxDKgY0b4JW XV7VsI6nsPYnzg7mGe0MQY9GpWWXDOyNg1ZRbL7VrH56tL0KFnzmnd95NONnNdZPlbhA cim5fULwwbG0lbrsEQClnOEuEgiU/TFe27C1Q= Sender: daryl shawn Message-ID: <4B991030.1060401@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:45:52 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Chicago feedback References: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> <4B976EE2.50706@tiscali.co.uk> <4B986436.7040602@mhorse.com> <58521FC1-265A-427D-9E77-F9F9E75D640A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58521FC1-265A-427D-9E77-F9F9E75D640A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:45:58 +0000 (UTC) hey Christopher, that's very cool, thank *you* for sharing. Wisht you could have seen it. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > Nice. I love it. > > Strange... I love a lot of things I hear on this list but rarely write > to say that unless I actually have something interesting to add. > > So I'm wondering why I feel compelled to in this case. I think > possibly because I'm still bogged down by complexity, nearing the end > of a 3 year struggle to make it simple again (while retaining the > advantages I began this journey for.) Or it is the idea of reversal, > where the artists become the audience and, dissolving that barrier, so > the audience feels like part of the art. Or perhaps it's just that I > felt like I was in that room too for a second. Or because I know most > "experimental" attempts like that fail musically (in my opinion) so > it's quite a joy when that sort of approach /really/ works. Or, > because I am from Chicago originally! > > Anyway, Thank you for sharing! 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I don't seem to have that problem here. Are you sure you are = selecting "don't use wizard file"? On 11 Mar 2010, at 14:12, mark francombe wrote: > No wait... um if i dont selct a VFX wizard file, then my OK button is = greyed out, cant get any further... >=20 > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:03 PM, mark francombe = wrote: > ha ha.. I understand the import part... then I get the VFX thing,.. = thanks!=20 > But what is this Rock of which you speak? >=20 > Mark >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Graham = wrote: > Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Select no VFX wizard = file. Rock. >=20 >=20 > On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark francombe wrote: >=20 >> Pst.. Re this VFX thing.. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows = how it works? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --Apple-Mail-1-106446303 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hm. I don't seem to have that problem here. Are you sure you are selecting "don't use wizard file"?


On 11 Mar 2010, at 14:12, mark francombe wrote:

No wait... um if i dont selct a VFX wizard file, then my OK button is greyed out, cant get any further...

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:03 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
ha ha.. I understand the import part... then I get the VFX thing,.. thanks!
But what is this Rock of which you speak?

Mark


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote:
Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Select no VFX wizard file. Rock.


On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark francombe wrote:

Pst.. Re this VFX thing.. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows how it works?





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--Apple-Mail-1-106446303-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 17:30:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 956543BF14; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1751DF26-85FE-458A-82B8-63EF4925F6B9@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:30:51 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3BT92B.A.PXH.SjSmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Hey kris if this has become a recent phenomena, it might be due to using the new energy saving fluorescent light bulbs. I was getting ton of extra noise until I realized they were the culprit and any room on the same circuit as mine like the bathroom had to have the lights replaced with standard incandescent bulbs. I still have some issues with buzz and also with proximity to transformers in my room, example: if I set my guitar to close to my furman power conditioner my guitar buzzes. It may be that my power conditioner is old enough (+20 years) now that some of its filter capacitors are getting old and noisy. The real solution would be getting an isolation transformer for your studio room, but they aren't cheap, some costing upwards of $1000 dollars or more and they tend to be pretty massive them selves. Try changing the lights first, that may clear up your problem. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 17:48:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3215B3BF1E; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 357704209/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.224.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.224.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBANq7mEtPRuDh/2dsb2JhbAAHjmPKTYR7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,621,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="357704209" Message-ID: <4B992CEB.1040504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:48:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> <172969.21609.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <172969.21609.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6o2hqB.A.4vH.qzSmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:48:26 +0000 (UTC) antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > I must disagree with you Andy regarding palying techniques with the stick. good ;-) >I play a ten string graphite, I am certainly not a virtuoso as the voice >There are a lot of sounds you can get from that instrument. all I know is 1) tap to start note 2) remove playing finger to stop note 3) vibrato as for a regular fretted instrument in which case, 1) always produces the same tone, and 2) is not as clean as a dedicated damping technique. If you have a demo of anything else that would be interesting. >other aspects of the instrument are not brought to light. that's also true of guitar/bass andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 18:02:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AD653BF18; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 247478.31862.bm@omp122.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268330551; bh=2HyprTXFnV9WJJXWPDEHQbOzcyOyOnqgj73Knymztog=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YSA5N0Ra608EJR7+J1IyE2sZNL+FrHjrdp/249MNLYWkN7UARPVfc60e8dCdEyVkROoisJW9lYoeRtzTmEClhkbbWpr/0vaynW4lOmW8IN2a5cuwN2nsmMNYGb3TmetegJZE/i3IbsLjGJiuodtQLhFfu0H1klJtvqCdER9L5As= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QfAewlkU0Ih7aHDGZm65tb8hNK6R0YIBzj6FXdYyfQLOHbgjTIPFRtM+APlyMpWThuk4uXKhSSgu6gmyf/Ue+9d2qXQwiwMR/rbK/CtfHSzRsy90pweS1IGmHr91fD2H4zz08tIyt0CSYa7Hux7N7c+weJbszNxBZFuQyOwEL+U=; Message-ID: <58971.11958.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: s3Loc7MVM1maUC9W7925NjSlTknOVHKDLgTudwzH_aiD4IK pcal2l0sGY9P0FszUrlr0pxP5sv34OMF0zzOejYpBOMbDWiI.49Zj2BjoRPw Ke0jviIs2f5em6hbMl4tdNcPB.Ljln_ixsjpIcTMO8Wx46rPYkMjeYvSww8q QretBZOYSPIApiLYUgYGp.LwVrBDjlPaOtcveZV7xgvcYvKfjvByDalV73LM ANksGw2G0_hIJz5L2nsaNZrob4mta8q12CFhu6DQB0ANAsaW_FptWR0I.45L OVZJoQsULDy8NBchPqxcrHAESYTYwilpb9l9LAUgHB9375JvDqEnK_vmjxA- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> <172969.21609.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4B992CEB.1040504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B992CEB.1040504@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:02:31 +0000 (UTC) hello Andy,=0A=0Ahere are some simple techniques I use which modify the tim= bre slightky or dramtically=A0:=0A=0A- tap way above the fret and produce a= buzz (especially on bass strings or low treble strings)=0A- tap right on t= he fret and get a muted tone=0A- tap below the fret and get a very muted an= d slighltly out of tune tone=0A=0AOf course you can bend and tone varies a = lot with the way you sustain the note, and I am not talking vibrato or teme= molo, more what fretless players do when sustaining. I am looking forward t= o receiveing a fretless NS stick which should add a new variety of tone bui= lding techniques to my palette=0A=0A- use another finger of the same hand, = or for more flexibility of the other hand, to damp strings and produce vari= ous overtones, the overtone structure depending on where the damping is hap= pening as you well know and, this effect will vary a lot depending on how l= ighlty or heavily you damp=0A=0AI cannot produce examples because I am away= from home and cannot add sound files or links to them, but I will when I h= ave the access=0A=0AAll of this becomes very dramatic and sensitive when yo= u start using tube preamps and amps on both sides, just like on guitar and = bass=0AThe stick is very dynamic and has high impedance output, especially = with the PASV4 pick ups I have, so you need to find matching preamps.=0A=0A= The pick ups themselves offer a very dramatic tonal selection...=0A=0Ai hop= e this gives you an idea of what I mean and I will try to illustrate when i= get a chance=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: andy butler =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Thu, Mar= ch 11, 2010 6:48:27 PM=0ASubject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist)=0A=0Aanton= yhequet@yahoo.com wrote:=0A> I must disagree with you Andy regarding palyin= g techniques with the stick. =0A=0Agood ;-)=0A=0A> I play a ten string grap= hite, I am certainly not a virtuoso as the voice There are a lot of sounds = you can get from that instrument.=0A=0Aall I know is 1) tap to start note= =0A2) remove playing finger to stop note=0A3) vibrato as for a regular fret= ted instrument=0A=0Ain which case, 1) always produces the same tone,=0Aand = 2) is not as clean as a dedicated damping technique.=0A=0AIf you have a dem= o of anything else that would be interesting.=0A=0A=0A=0A> other aspects of= the instrument are not brought to light. =0A=0Athat's also true of guitar/= bass=0A=0A=0Aandy=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 18:22:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A58D13BF1F; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ThQQSfoChwLVW4prK9TBN0wjcyCDl8BCTwirdCssraA=; b=iPsHXHyRqgrj7T/ACwZZN/MTkLm9vMaVKkU/PMlwLYFRTo/EdcBwEF+PSbhNXa18c5 WS+r1z/2IqVMwcIE2O/2KA95dRz1uZUl5FvGadTW0VlKW/DIKZS/W/B5whooD0booXqQ EPWAG6oCFVCpVy6ER8A0QeA2+oc/SMTJCrE/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N/MEGi3CQn4jb0tw4648FCdrhSLXLn+qHhLBtLNxQ8/19iNZZPFH861m3ii9GQuS+I VgvUqI053REBx+7fwTxbTUmrzhoNmZUnDKdm3s51P7MYIDXqbZRl+IkfWFCgr68fcl5b z/j46W45IvuEhwxrxsK0vz7HtgHBhGR6dK48E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003110439u55abb896u64be3c72d11e00d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B988BF7.60305@cruzio.com> <20100311114454.14670@gmx.net> <9ab0c76f1003110439u55abb896u64be3c72d11e00d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:22:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) (budget studio) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Ditto what Marc just said ... Reaper is just fine on the Mac (and I"m using it on an older, maxed out pre-Intel G5). Just used to master my RPM 2010 Challenge release "Duomo Whispers, Florentine Shadows" (http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin/duomo-whispers-florentine-shadows) and it worked beautifully. One of the great things today is that the price of computing has come down to the point that we can began to look at them as highly-specific tools, dedicating an inexpensive box to a single task. Best, Dennis On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:39 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I too LOVE Reaper.. I find that for audio it better than logic actually.. So > for fun I use Logic, but for work (where I need small things done fast) I > still us Reaper... on the Mac btw... > > Mark > >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 18:22:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51FD93BF36; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 361565854/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.224.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.224.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAJfDmEtPRuDh/2dsb2JhbAAHyzmNU4R7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,621,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="361565854" Message-ID: <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:22:46 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:22:48 +0000 (UTC) hi Kenn, it's more an issue that the stick wouldn't work for me personally. I have a very unorthodox playing style on string instruments, and really rely on being able to get a lot of different timbres and effects from the way I pluck the string. it's not about just getting tone, but about getting a range of different tones. andy ps, nice sound by the way, esp the bass Kenn Lowy wrote: > Besides playing guitar, being wrinklemuzik and looping stuff, I also > play the stick and warr guitar. A good stick/warr musician can get all > the tone and color that a guitarist can: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1TLoI9ofHE > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 18:29:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 121C63BF26; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pxj75YUQN0vMqBa/TUH3pqY1NFdvhCOKxpYkwNuMx9s=; b=sZHg0261ch0Njb3TmqMMbvywZ78Yidri9avUwnHZZAAt7ZydB71hMq2hDD4AwOtUYd diK0EzT4U0vEL15Zk2VpuKO76SvciRWpwDuPm8DHT20cd9PENLmKuX4ykxz6kjZLJulU bxhfOCD9RKLJrumETHFCxJoTryZEJr8EN/WJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gkkgc+YgvbBiXfWercyTBl+QAk12luVxubPCxKmL/6tLpQdPYbH7gKgaKiYr+r8eFm BQGpSF1lakixIw2/q19NM4IYmxAmsQZCImcYpDvHkRe9tFNwO5ehmRemWE2PMSDdUjo6 mfVy9rc4fviS8fmo4Iok1nlSG2bz8DSX/PnXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B992CEB.1040504@tiscali.co.uk> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> <172969.21609.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4B992CEB.1040504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:29:36 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003111029r657098e5l1dbd772c2de58edb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:29:37 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:48 PM, andy butler wrote: > a lot As a beginning and ambitious Stick player it amazes me how my Stick tends to sound more like a Stratocaster for each day. The strat was my premier instrument for a couple of decades and I guess I never will get away from it ;-) But with the Stick I have at least extended the tonal range of this expression way down into the bass register - which is awesome! I have the same Villex PASV-4 pickups as Anthony and really love that sound. I agree with Anthony that there are a lot of Stick specific playing technique tricks, but that's not what interest me with the instrument. I get my kicks from more music related aspects like being able to use nine fingers to work out rhythmic patterns, the wide tonal range and the live sound design challenge of adding different effects and amps to each side. Just think about how cool to play a throbbing 16th note basted bassline with by two hand technique on the bass side and only now and then replace a note with one on the melody side, where you have the output going through a tap delay with some cool LFO filtering happening. Not to forget the multitasking improvisational option for two-handed playing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 18:36:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60D963BF1F; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZQEZkrdlM5cSUL7mEQ8oopGu7wCU0jmSTF4/mBdif6Q=; b=VnIb5t26xxB6ybqXD9b+WDWNkbhf2ojyYxAqyvOyuGot8e51dowA6rPo/3ckp6ysar G2bRMCKcETa7HXrYol6fNqKeQTSn3liv7SnjN2nf7lz3COhUKe09qrDr2mXwGbrg6tel r91XZ3sKXbNVdOk/v1xVasn7viNjk2UThWsuQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=r+7LJ4S/UtJYN/T9IpCiNtBYzj4D2MaXczosNUxYjv+sqZkHiTr+9IFiD056dqiUdj sNOFYR6hSmYmH+h3+MzJFDYfC3IS1en1WH+HPa7ZIOsqjyH0m6vnGDINzC+Rca+KkkUI oTLJmHHC39nAAz4kOEMJ3+lB0CON5TRpD9I4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B986436.7040602@mhorse.com> References: <0F9F0BBF-580C-4E63-9FEA-A8A40D2ACC64@baymoon.com> <4B976EE2.50706@tiscali.co.uk> <4B986436.7040602@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:35:58 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003111035m1b8d3964g256c04a6ad5b7860@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Chicago feedback From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce00a50a306ee04818aaf38 Resent-Message-ID: <09u9AD.A.kKB.QgTmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:36:00 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce00a50a306ee04818aaf38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Daryl glad it's going well, this sounds like a great place and that concept I too have thought about it, in a sense the guys who appeared with us at the recent NoRio show in NY were doing similar in terms of going into the audience to experience the effect. Chitown is such a great place. Best with your tour. Jim On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: --000e0ce00a50a306ee04818aaf38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daryl glad it's going well, this sounds like a great place and that con= cept I too have thought about it, in a sense the guys who appeared with us = at the recent NoRio show in NY were doing similar in terms of going into th= e audience to experience the effect.=A0 Chitown is such a great place.=A0 B= est with your tour.

Jim

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:32 PM,= Daryl Shawn <= highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

--000e0ce00a50a306ee04818aaf38-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 18:36:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0B9C3BF41; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 359138203/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.224.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.224.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAFvHmEtPRuDh/2dsb2JhbAAH2QWEewQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,621,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="359138203" Message-ID: <4B993827.7060105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:36:23 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:36:20 +0000 (UTC) as the Voltage from the outlet is 240V you're safe, the cable only carries the mains voltage to the unit, and the rating just means the cable itself is good for 250V or under. andy ps if you have any good links for traditional Malaysian music and feel like returning the favour please send to me off list :-) halim zainal wrote: > Hi, > Just wondering my EDP is now set to 240v. What happens if a 250v power > cable is used? can it be done? will it fry my unit? Thanx. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 18:42:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A1DF3BF4C; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 357734472/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.224.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.224.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsBAL7ImEtPRuDh/2dsb2JhbAAHjmODe8YvhHsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,621,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="357734472" Message-ID: <4B9939A8.7060306@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:42:48 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> <172969.21609.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4B992CEB.1040504@tiscali.co.uk> <58971.11958.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <58971.11958.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:42:46 +0000 (UTC) antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > - tap right on the fret and get a muted tone that one's really cool....ta From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 18:47:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B76873BF5E; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BhosHWBTdGyXz2SkiOhI9a1Qpnju6sIJTlxa1fLs+Ys=; b=hBrIpvXYuAL//QCn9Ljz3Q8F52WknPIrJkpATYGpl0ScX4VIuQGhmZHgdFxxliqdyP H1WRGuaOb/7P0tpfUVrfPiBD39rbIeFHuJwcuRGuqJeo8CL8Gb06IQk918+B+OkFuB3j sCIZCTEz7Mk0Idg1myulkaO6Syog/t8FdfMLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lbg+B7b3zyfmUq5wSJHkeNfcXHyMMCgOpB0JkRRB66y9M/4Z6iPCXZEBEeYOmq4X/q ORdip64jMDNIOgDYE3cR3qufMMTqWVphw/yo0MXdag+7DXWY53O4rq6zDdx8+rCermfp QDV6BAlE6KvVdbnkF/OWXkYC3fmBM62TwBKFY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:47:04 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003111047i3996b5d8wf62ff18ef0760827@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:47:05 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:22 PM, andy butler wrote: > I have a very unorthodox playing style on string instruments, > and really rely on being able to get a lot of different timbres > and effects from the way I pluck the string. > > it's not about just getting tone, but about getting a range > of different tones. You wouldn't seriously attempt to "play guitar" on a stick would you? :-) My stick may sound Strat like but generally it's a misconception to think the stick is a sort of guitar. Or bass. There's a lot guitar trick you can't do on a stick - but there are a lot of stick things... vice versa. I totally agree with Andy's description, above, of hist guitar approach. "Unortothox" is definitely the word. I went over to Norwich and played with him and I would say that the EDP too is part of "the instrument" Andy plays. An amazing experience of looping with unorthodox guitar playing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 19:01:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BDFA3BF6C; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5qjjq8S2ASGX9ksusO5SS7zyFnNoHf8GKd8GcNIlvb0=; b=S2HpLNhMBvkORKW2rocuT44lJGNfoiOH9UD/hsLN5UZScCccMEIXjNDBG5RhqC5ZZP 3oP6YGsfOPXjeazQ/v/DS7CohWv+o9l7ie/owqITJc0+dKoS9vJIp4eNCw7lX/JkF5wN MNkD2jrpuwzSdhv4JwgSpSyTtmWbm3PmmEQhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xh14eBuSOtwO7QCgGFNF7IAKNyrKPspjBV8X/I/kbJ9qqs3OU8CmfKmELelrBiHpI8 XjqUtIkKZqEWoexq88HZd1iqOfl8e6NbGvnE8vROv/YI3C5uRtjx8NBBqibrzS5PHmuz XASvvk5Kn73KKD3km0QXcDVCrC1c5Qwwoz6Co= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003111047i3996b5d8wf62ff18ef0760827@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003111047i3996b5d8wf62ff18ef0760827@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:01:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d589210c033204818b0b25 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:01:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d589210c033204818b0b25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... warr have all the summed possibilities. i think this is one of the reasons why mark invented it, isn't? 2010/3/11 Per Boysen > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:22 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > I have a very unorthodox playing style on string instruments, > > and really rely on being able to get a lot of different timbres > > and effects from the way I pluck the string. > > > > it's not about just getting tone, but about getting a range > > of different tones. > tar tech > You wouldn't seriously attempt to "play guitar" on a stick would you? :-) > > My stick may sound Strat like but generally it's a misconception to > think the stick is a sort of guitar. Or bass. There's a lot guitar > trick you can't do on a stick - but there are a lot of stick things... > vice versa. > > I totally agree with Andy's description, above, of hist guitar > approach. "Unortothox" is definitely the word. I went over to Norwich > and played with him and I would say that the EDP too is part of "the > instrument" Andy plays. An amazing experience of looping with > unorthodox guitar playing. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d589210c033204818b0b25 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... warr have all the summed possibilities. i think this is one of the reas= ons why mark invented it, isn't?


= 2010/3/11 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:22 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> I have a very unorthodox playing style on string instruments,
> and really rely on being able to get a lot of different timbres
> and effects from the way I pluck the string.
>
> it's not about just getting tone, but about getting a range
> of different tones.
tar tech
You wouldn't seriously attempt to "play guitar" on a st= ick would you? :-)

My stick may sound Strat like but generally it's a misconception to
think the stick is a sort of guitar. Or bass. There's a lot guitar
trick you can't do on a stick - but there are a lot of stick things...<= br> vice versa.

I totally agree with Andy's description, above, of hist guitar
approach. "Unortothox" is definitely the word. I went over to Nor= wich
and played with him and I would say that the EDP too is part of "the instrument" Andy plays. An amazing experience of looping with
unorthodox guitar playing.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m= =E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!,= no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "=


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
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--0016e6d589210c033204818b0b25-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 19:29:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FA423BF41; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6CB73E4E-5885-4671-99FE-CC73798B1352@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Was Enver Izmailov (guitarist) now stick versus guitar caged death match Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:29:31 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) I have to agree with Andy on this point. I've done quite a bit of tapping on guitar. and flirted with buying a stick back in the 80's when a friend lent one to me for a month. I don't think one can really compare the dynamic range of the guitar to a stick or similar instrument. There is only so much dynamic range (whisper to a roar) that can be achieved by tapping or changing the velocity of ones tap attack, whereas a guitar can be plucked with a wider range of dynamic intensity. Unless you over compress the signal and limit your dynamic range (Adrian Belew comes to mind) the guitar simply has more dynamic range that one can not only hear, but see on any decent DAW meter bridge. Don't get me wrong I love the stick, but in order to get dramatic shifts from loud to soft one needs to apply level increase from another source like a volume booster or application of effects. Nothing wrong in that mind you. Take a Stratocaster as an example, because the pickups are lower output and less compressed than a comparable Les Paul, the Strat is capable of greater dynamic range. I simply cannot get the whisper to a roar volume range on a Les Paul or similarly equipped instrument than than I can with a Strat or tele. Now if one were to use plucking techniques that's a different story. I've seen Tony levin employ flamenco-esque strum techniques and really kick up the dynamic range that way. Two cents Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 19:38:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 359493BF41; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5AnLZAbjsQ6NauWPZkVUm21Sop3Ku2ixdm6+TDEGZ44=; b=SPpGmQ6GQMca7DfAiE9BWyCcQ7oY5XIgSOeP94elGbGZZ3PM5V9WZ6wNclU24PYqwC /cSEYsMmuuZmpdbTqoFagS70GLnrC7ibCEy8okuMoK11FaX/rKbP64IHC7UtUtUHrT5r smIRPhTGwP+WBdZksBblv2+CMfL40INsfR48Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xiK6DP71l707bPyeeN35uIc4/3bkjiPTZmJXR0gogAePUkqnQeI4Mp8RQ9U9Zlm9Vh NvrsHMcBem23cNH5kluaeDNilcnA6dTtx+lLFfj1m/E+CNXSYoV22WFaV7aLJY90UmYV dAmX2RqQZUg9570hLdk4pbNJUCV53X1cqkId8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003111047i3996b5d8wf62ff18ef0760827@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:38:13 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003111138w794d5497lf6943ddf5d641670@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:38:14 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... warr have all the summed possibilities. i think this is one of the > reasons why mark invented it, isn't? My guess is that Mark Warr "invented" the Warr Guitar because felt frustrated with the Stick, as he started out on that instrument. He simply wanted a Stick with a more dense tone. I'd love to find an interview where he talks about the early process of visualizing the Warr guitar. >From what I understand the Warr Guitar is quite different to the Stick and the guitar. At least the Stick I like, light wight bamboo wood with PASV-4 pickups. As with guitars, I tend to like the tone you get out of light weight wood instruments. I had two old guitars from -57 and -59, Gibson SG and Les Paul Junior models and they too had this "light wood" tone character (mahogany), like a Strat of the more fat kind. This is a rather short sustain and sort of "light tone" that can easily be shaped by acoustic feedback if the volume is loud enough. The bamboo Stick sound like that but of course with longer string sustain. The Warr on the other hand makes me associate to dense Gibson Les Paul or PRS tone instruments. A string tone character I'm not at all into and can't relate to. But I do like the fat and full jazz tone Randy Strom gets on the Warr. I also think some Stick players give the Stick a bad reputation by not really playing the instrument but more like "tapping down strings at positions memorized from a score chart". I must say that I also dislike 90 percent of the Stick tone you hear around. No pun intended - it is just a matter of taste: the plunky clavinette-like Stick sound is not my bag, and it took me a lot of research to find out that they can actually sound in a different way. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 19:49:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EE193BF4C; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=XmxE1CCCnzevVoq5HfFPBzvgM75eBO5rQHJt+L9AMvs=; b=ZGq2yf4Zump+huM0E8pLpui9AJjihVcb1kHrg3KBfgQQF8yArMrhsTjn8dGPDENf2g yasRKFCs1/5G4zh6+qyys1pkfYF7C+IMsC84AGDHozayWv+wML5gvJqPRX95S8JCAcGe YALF9N7Qowfn1xYf156hAul/nBLaYdYC72rQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wWOytRPTBXYD2t+WB1yvaDRmvj5bSrUwmX9XwfVXGWxl+Nm9FHmDfp0E5cKY20wWwL fO95MY4doAY1+Y6FqfiAEZ5HzmJVkduDy8YTw3szJHWO95RaNT3BY1Y/d4+/AM77rlLR W/7TUF8MEAxJiqYetDqKgMmD2mk8Sv6CK9XmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:49:02 -0500 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b1003111149u2c89a969h6568afb3c2024e1f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: EDP Midi sync question From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Hello LD, Looking for some suggestions/directions: Recently, I've been having a bunch of fun syncing up w/ a friend running a Mac laptop w/ Ableton. And it got me thinking, "what if we could just sync up a bunch of different people and their gear? And maybe have presets to change around all the master/slave options. So I went looking at a bunch of MIDI interface boxes and have been reading up. But, I was wondering if anyone has any experience w/ this type of thing. I don't typically use my computer in my rig and was wondering if I'd be forced to if I had an interface, or if I could just program presets or something and then just use it w/ the EDP. End Result, I'd love to be able to sync up to four different musicians that brought along their own MIDI loopers or Ableton computer or whatever. I'm wanting to jam w/ a bunch of different people and be able to tackle different situations with switching master/slave around easily between jams. Sorry if this seems redundant, not sure what to do and really wanted to explain the situation. Thanks for any input you might have, Andy G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 19:57:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 383863BF69; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CTYPd3reVzZMXfLVK0SGC1Z9xfWmvShjIsKKf+BlC6k=; b=mulAAWRcopptnGWDFCogIlLIfq22RZ3nJeZJ9QCykn+4TY9hzQ3rmBLqg0k1IBDf4i gNFtWU2N55KU3O+e6fRrOcYWrSJMigslWH+8cEwoSfShkNMKimz8QCuUpM5r5E4kgxif CUF8dZgXBkOOZjyKUn/joMst4RJ+fDOPekMBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G2MU01TZfKJPyehzsTMBJjmMLNUunYRbO4yuJUO2PFjml61nilumZOBImQSDnOK+KI AXlAnnCjBCqO/ppAgHOspNif4xqGYN/aBwMY9d75cHmoc7pxqMp6wMlJZKMKbIK1/YA3 3p8abIguW8w3crknxhXXOTTxTGy3gr8lWJtsA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b1003111149u2c89a969h6568afb3c2024e1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3ebb9b1003111149u2c89a969h6568afb3c2024e1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:57:23 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003111157j103b19a2u46f7fe46cef9f043@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP Midi sync question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:57:27 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Loaf citious wrote= : > End Result, I'd love to be able to sync up to four different musicians > that brought along their own MIDI loopers or Ableton computer or > whatever. =C2=A0I'm wanting to jam w/ a bunch of different people and be > able to tackle different situations with switching master/slave around > easily between jams. If using laptops it's good to set up a master sync clock to be available for everyone to hook up with as slaves. Either that or doing all manual syncing, which is what I prefer; you listen while playing and adapt of timing is drifting. Adapting loop sync manually can be done by instantly retrigger the (local track sync master) loop or simply creating a new loop from scratch at the new tempo. If using all EDPs there is this wonderful Brother Sync function that doesn't see any "master" or "slave" but only provides a common time reference. But any player in the group can change his local interpretation, as in creating shorter or longer cycles for loops. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 19:57:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 897043BF79; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 873092.72175.bm@omp122.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268337458; bh=gV4DpgOhf4eoO0IUEyyPPpLQaCqz0y8grZiSz6ejCvk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0RjLIVmQFBJ2h/jUMtSQeNZFPVXd1sf32P7oXrEGv88Ul4Zz7o3coby+D3n+WZLDA6GjdJ7rzo1dnD5oZeOWjxF24rxOoydU4uZlJpyeCTbh0H6Etqct9U7FgVdf0Jr4jFr5Ayp13aN8tiJQt/vFcBynLhNSQhMfW7+aLLUOwx0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q7bAEP9DIB6ICJ4BpuURkjoUNOC9voHiuYSbPHRKxHbYQ5B3wRV+lBaSGea9MCJM3heLwf7pi06VYNQVqsXcAuC/QylkIHB94L8/GdPS+Xkyk5qK4brgFbbXKLQBbdXXw8xLZCZR0k97q1qcFXE7fQeG50o3J/RwQTfGzrm+bOQ=; Message-ID: <732460.36881.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ICB7gx0VM1l3plf3r2QwHAoi3VWifavSmbqtcRSQMR9ogCw6gPJ7Klunj68aWy5dkaEhHZssasMtCvyd925MB1NucA_WPcErNNT._xCYbF2QGms6ulZ0iBUxuPs9lQDxSAGNR8saLMH9A1.liEoXks6.SB2H8paAGZbb2dqRRrb..C4Q5nSWFmnT97yMbdJYxeWL7rQgNZPKn4v22GUixgcQM.uxEHM3Oxpy6vd2TqdV0h7ORTnDv_BkRKJCBwS6o4ZuAGsdXlyLaV7aTgLD0min7J_uOt2kJwDSqi7H3aCDRUKGoHG0fAmlkoKMVWqyoLt.Qzpzns0_1.vkhL_aI1SSuA4POnt1lMaq6bsLvrgRJ3JDyeIgCoY- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <497563.78400.qm@web29018.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> <172969.21609.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4B992CEB.1040504@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003111029r657098e5l1dbd772c2de58edb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:57:38 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003111029r657098e5l1dbd772c2de58edb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:57:45 +0000 (UTC) yes Per, it's wonderfull to play a two handed percussion instrument that had two separate voices (preamp/effetcs/amplifier), sometimes I feel like i am two people playing together:) ----- Original Message ---- From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 7:29:36 PM Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:48 PM, andy butler wrote: > a lot As a beginning and ambitious Stick player it amazes me how my Stick tends to sound more like a Stratocaster for each day. The strat was my premier instrument for a couple of decades and I guess I never will get away from it ;-) But with the Stick I have at least extended the tonal range of this expression way down into the bass register - which is awesome! I have the same Villex PASV-4 pickups as Anthony and really love that sound. I agree with Anthony that there are a lot of Stick specific playing technique tricks, but that's not what interest me with the instrument. I get my kicks from more music related aspects like being able to use nine fingers to work out rhythmic patterns, the wide tonal range and the live sound design challenge of adding different effects and amps to each side. Just think about how cool to play a throbbing 16th note basted bassline with by two hand technique on the bass side and only now and then replace a note with one on the melody side, where you have the output going through a tap delay with some cool LFO filtering happening. Not to forget the multitasking improvisational option for two-handed playing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 19:58:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32BA43BF84; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=f5bTPxYNh8cRF51XPBrdY+WkXbDSDDO4aof1X5jXVqA=; b=MNoruz5Y/RbnCYU8xr65k48XVU8Z3IygElQ1G9hOYIrd3yHO5pYfzHUt5oAYkZ6Z7q wSG2vp/1xun1rNvDYuFuEu7LZGwaYXt6cc70GF67wLcbpqNTLXXTrkVNIxhytGEvgD2G /d147h33eGNihUyKzX0PtfyTQ6fp8av2OZsqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=D9eB00p1gNX9oInKdZb0V9s2P4F2QHoplXnMaj2FLhsjRABL9Tv140mAlK1/eN24ob 2S7Zr4Ebf3aVzn4H5mvdOVhwANypszppSkpMqjNJ5JiP2GUqm+a7lu3uPm0Lpe2COvwo lO07ZQseKdmRP/QB/DduGlZg9GOiTwzdhRnqU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003111138w794d5497lf6943ddf5d641670@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003111047i3996b5d8wf62ff18ef0760827@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003111138w794d5497lf6943ddf5d641670@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:58:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1b6a3800ac13dd70 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003111158m4f39fd74xcfa98bb9489be386@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0b4a676069304818bd766 Resent-Message-ID: <4qcvhD.A.HiD.ztUmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:58:44 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0b4a676069304818bd766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 and it took me a lot of > research to find out that they can actually sound in a different way. > > like.. have you tried it thru a really evil fuzz box? Im sure a stick would sound like a mono synth..? Gos Im jealous Per.. wish I could afford one... Im almost in my car.. about 7 hours to Stockholm right? How long have you had it, whats the learning curve? -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0b4a676069304818bd766 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and it took me a lot of
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--000e0ce0b4a676069304818bd766-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 20:01:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A88D33BF99; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:01:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=XvatzdXHyiVEvyQ5DZXEwu9LCvk2kY35+XvHgEyMGXM=; b=t8LwUN4Qs1fyGlVVxHJ5CfaH+qKWbBclRfU/o0Lfp/u2EVM8TmswJ89DzZrxRqy3a3 YCpvKffECEnvOa7jnV5WlbyMtiiKzFmsy9bw54Zk8fNZ9ogr0vvhGBn1UE4tJKYu1vbs z+xIT/TvW7ce/5RBeQKktxunkLoQJHhp0MvGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OQOmRPkpQonwxo3v3k9/O/JEhwfL5ngAWTJ3tHeUW4eusRlT0VpgTm/SEHB6ntjeY2 A942nG7/HoSVbVYcuSBZvZmDE0XlGEzVWOsXcnFeuxxvKj9L1Re9/mXAw8Kzz5q1/PCM r8yEjz3ALKIxdJp6gixxQjpIFZwA4hSgBii7k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <899FB8E0-97D2-41DA-B990-B8151A9A8927@btinternet.com> References: <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003110453l8edac33j653686c6d578c700@mail.gmail.com> <226014A5-B2B9-4DB4-971F-6DEE0BB6FE57@btinternet.com> <9ab0c76f1003110603p27d54cd0q1db38873dab95d82@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003110612m343dd97eq4b119bf248695e7f@mail.gmail.com> <899FB8E0-97D2-41DA-B990-B8151A9A8927@btinternet.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:01:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ca3fad1deb7f1a55 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003111201p5d877ca1q173482c0590c8629@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09fc2bdbe2dc3a104818be148 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:01:35 +0000 (UTC) --00c09fc2bdbe2dc3a104818be148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You know it took a reboot.. im sort of getting my plugs in now.. nearly.. a few missing files need to be put in the right places... my badly programmed vsts Im afraid.. but then what... how do I get these to show in a DAW, or is it a "play only" device? mark On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Richard Graham < rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hm. I don't seem to have that problem here. Are you sure you are selecting > "don't use wizard file"? > > > On 11 Mar 2010, at 14:12, mark francombe wrote: > > No wait... um if i dont selct a VFX wizard file, then my OK button is > greyed out, cant get any further... > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:03 PM, mark francombe wrote: > >> ha ha.. I understand the import part... then I get the VFX thing,.. >> thanks! >> But what is this Rock of which you speak? >> >> Mark >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Graham < >> rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>> Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Select no VFX wizard >>> file. Rock. >>> >>> >>> On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark francombe wrote: >>> >>> Pst.. Re this VFX thing.. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows how >>> it works? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >>> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00c09fc2bdbe2dc3a104818be148 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You know it took a reboot.. im sort of getting my plugs in now.. nearly.. a= few missing files need to be put in the right places... my badly programme= d vsts Im afraid.. but then what... how do I get these to show in a DAW, or= is it a "play only" device?

mark

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:12 PM,= Richard Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hm. I don't seem to have that pro= blem here. Are you sure you are selecting "don't use wizard file&q= uot;?


On= 11 Mar 2010, at 14:12, mark francombe wrote:

No wait... um if i dont selct a VFX wizard fi= le, then my OK button is greyed out, cant get any further...

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:03 PM, mark francombe <= mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
ha ha.. I underst= and the import part... then I get the VFX thing,.. thanks!
But what is = this Rock of which you speak?

Mark


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote:
Import the VST using import VST from File menu - Selec= t no VFX wizard file. Rock.


On 11 Mar 2010, at 12:53, mark = francombe wrote:

Pst.. Re this VFX thing= .. just fired it up.. er.. does anyone knows how it works?





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--00c09fc2bdbe2dc3a104818be148-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 20:06:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53BB33BFA9; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: EDP Midi sync question Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:04:23 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b1003111149u2c89a969h6568afb3c2024e1f@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: EDP Midi sync question Thread-Index: AcrBU/1dbCjp9mGVSZSWUNIdJzMdxAAABSnw References: <9c3ebb9b1003111149u2c89a969h6568afb3c2024e1f@mail.gmail.com> From: "Ace Ovil" To: Resent-Message-ID: <2pZn0C.A.M3D.O1UmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Sorry to interject, Not trying to hijack the discussion from my fellow North Carolinian, but couldn't help but think when I read the e-mail how cool it would be to be able to do this sort of jam over the web. It seems entirely possible, I just have no idea how one would even approach this though. Imagine being able to Jam with all the cool european folks on here Loaf. Wouldn't that be spectacular? Ace -----Original Message----- From: Loaf citious [mailto:loafcitious@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:49 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP Midi sync question Hello LD, Looking for some suggestions/directions: Recently, I've been having a bunch of fun syncing up w/ a friend running a Mac laptop w/ Ableton. And it got me thinking, "what if we could just sync up a bunch of different people and their gear? And maybe have presets to change around all the master/slave options. So I went looking at a bunch of MIDI interface boxes and have been reading up. But, I was wondering if anyone has any experience w/ this type of thing. I don't typically use my computer in my rig and was wondering if I'd be forced to if I had an interface, or if I could just program presets or something and then just use it w/ the EDP. End Result, I'd love to be able to sync up to four different musicians that brought along their own MIDI loopers or Ableton computer or whatever. I'm wanting to jam w/ a bunch of different people and be able to tackle different situations with switching master/slave around easily between jams. Sorry if this seems redundant, not sure what to do and really wanted to explain the situation. Thanks for any input you might have, Andy G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 20:26:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3EA43BFB4; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 362124146/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.174.194/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.174.194 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBALHgmEtPTq7C/2dsb2JhbAAH2G+EewQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,622,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="362124146" Message-ID: <4B9951E8.9060605@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:26:16 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP Midi sync question References: <9c3ebb9b1003111149u2c89a969h6568afb3c2024e1f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b1003111149u2c89a969h6568afb3c2024e1f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-89oXB.A.OaE.nHVmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Loaf citious wrote: > > Recently, I've been having a bunch of fun syncing up w/ a friend > running a Mac laptop w/ Ableton. And it got me thinking, "what if > we could just sync up a bunch of different people and their gear? And > maybe have presets to change around all the master/slave options. Some sort of programmable midi patchbay then. Don't know if that's available in Hardware. Software wise, you could do it using Bidule on any of the pc/mac available in the room, providing that machine had enough midi interfaces. If you need to route midi between apps within a mac, ....then I dunnow....Per? anyone? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 20:28:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10AC53BF4C; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100311141311.96E093BF19@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20100311141311.96E093BF19@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:28:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) (budget studio) From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Per Boysen" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote: > These day's an Apple pc is just as good as any other running Windows. > The utility that makes that possible is Bootcamp and comes with any > OS X box. It requires the user to restart the machine to boot into > Windows or OS X. Yeah, and I just saw that Apple has reduced the price of the Apple Mini to make it much more affordable to do that. Does the Mini have the firepower to do digital audio, Per? I see they are down to $499 in the US. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 20:29:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 407DB3BFA0; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tSdnSb0n60bPE8Aog5TO77NtOd5BzF+yP4L7ZTpnb0g=; b=RrdvCbYqT9rvuRGMpW6nJm/SRvTo13eH9JOR4q9Ou3oBPu+jZXfh+xNAPd8NVn0FeD fqWDu8mDFU1BXIKd1+AZ253h5jdYvJKAJrsMIJxkM+fEHEWTLuPZf+wZWA/FbdbB0PWn uFRdP9Whw4QQXfDV7Dm2AmukSQR5XEzUbIPQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ea0QHUYXFQMPmle1pSzzFqQfj0BebSbkzf9n2ij861sJS0f8jiYKLpgN5KvQICmOZP sJfJWfbHfYl/RieRSckcsIXdB3OZNBw989Sxm+bYr+E50RJIHhP9E0Dm19U4oCKfj3wM xnf6tc/4RNemv5VYuvvNOjydM39s5CKzKAsx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003111138w794d5497lf6943ddf5d641670@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003111047i3996b5d8wf62ff18ef0760827@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003111138w794d5497lf6943ddf5d641670@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:29:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d589218d2b8d04818c4672 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:29:47 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d589218d2b8d04818c4672 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/3/11 Per Boysen > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > ... warr have all the summed possibilities. i think this is one of the > > reasons why mark invented it, isn't? > > My guess is that Mark Warr "invented" the Warr Guitar because felt > frustrated with the Stick, as he started out on that instrument. He > simply wanted a Stick with a more dense tone. I'd love to find an > interview where he talks about the early process of visualizing the > Warr guitar. > > i meant, if you don't want to loose your guitar licks, then get a warr-like tapping instrument or even a regular guitar or 6-strings bass, not a stick. --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d589218d2b8d04818c4672 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2010/3/11 Per Boysen &= lt;perboysen@gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... warr have all the summed possibilities. i think this is one of the=
> reasons why mark invented it, isn't?

My guess is that Mark Warr "invented" the Warr Guitar becau= se felt
frustrated with the Stick, as he started out on that instrument. He
simply wanted a Stick with a more dense tone. I'd love to find an
interview where he talks about the early process of visualizing the
Warr guitar.


i meant, if you don't want to loose your g= uitar licks, then get a warr-like tapping instrument or even a regular guit= ar or 6-strings bass, not a stick.

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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i r= esulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien p= osar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
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--0016e6d589218d2b8d04818c4672-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 20:42:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9A203BF99; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pquVu5uMPKVq5PTg2aLPGFCRfnKaR4axniFC16gAfqA=; b=a0NtjXLI1WQK+LHpYHTmP+Vj2NvhP2G1eiVMz7VNATqQAq5xYDJeJgiT5SP2RFH4vl UNVYx45cXuGuEW545UxkDGlgZAO7FlNm0fhsJg2/QN8Y0NZ3ryp9UHg2MmMt1PWHLXuk A5lIRjRtpewNYUQHBA2Mtc9EUFIJJwWzSMNCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CUt3R3unZCZyMDs8JZk6S8xjc9eu+DLvDtGfzEBmah/sRUumOgDqGzIk41/BAVGfOG 1WXyyKh9cTzwLAT0MpWdcWxwNPBF4S4zrOV5YJBDOQhALlRASz3aPKRxoSAbAQJqV8/Q ES2i2fW6GMvhgRmtlz6mnYaLe2OXowYnckP4Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003111158m4f39fd74xcfa98bb9489be386@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003111047i3996b5d8wf62ff18ef0760827@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003111138w794d5497lf6943ddf5d641670@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003111158m4f39fd74xcfa98bb9489be386@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:42:20 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003111242h7a536658jf4179304d7c7744e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <8rA3QB.A.A5E.0WVmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:42:29 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe wrote: > and it took me a lot of >> >> research to find out that they can actually sound in a different way. >> > > > like.. have you tried it thru a really evil fuzz box? Im sure a stick would > sound like a mono synth..? > > Gos Im jealous Per.. wish I could afford one... Im almost in my car.. about > 7 hours to Stockholm right? How long have you had it, whats the learning > curve? WOT!!! You can afford a car but not a stick! Strange priorities ;-) YOu are totally wrong about the stick sounding like a mono synth if played through an evil fuzz. I did exactly that until 4 a.m. yesterday. If playing on the melody side it simply sounds like a tapped baritone guitar through an evil fuzz box and if done on the bass side it sounds like a tapped bass through an evil fuzz box. For "evil sounds" I still use my Casio electric guitar with humbuckers tuned down to B with ultra thick strings. Nothing gets that "throbby". I think the stick sounds more mellow (at least the way I prefer to tweak the sound), a bit like jazz guitarist John Abercrombie but if he should have used a "baritone stratocaster". Nerdy axe talk, but that's as close I can describe it. The learning curve is simple. You simply push down a string and it sounds. That is if you already know music, i.e. what notes to play in order to create something you hear in your head. I've seen a lot of people learning new instruments "the wrong way", buy building a mental picture of where to pusch down strings/buttons/keys in order to make certain melodies. If you do this mistake on the stick I guess you would lose interest and sell it pretty quickly, because the tonal range is so wide you kind of get lost within too waste opportunities. It seems drummers and piano players already have learned some of the multitasking skill that is needed to *play* a stick. For guitar players it is more difficult, especially on the mental side. It really is not a guitar. Get into your car and drive down to Stockholm! You will arrive about noon tomorrow and then we can enjoy a stick breakfast together! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 20:48:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EDC73BFB3; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_f0MfY+tbZV0RKtTmTbQx8g)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003110181 From: Kenn Lowy Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:48:12 -0500 In-reply-to: <20100311200136.3C1FE3BF9E@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20100311200136.3C1FE3BF9E@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:48:19 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_f0MfY+tbZV0RKtTmTbQx8g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT It's not an easy instrument to pick up and I would never put my guitar aside. But it does do some cool things you could never do on guitar. Then again I can do lots of things on the guitar that can't be done on the stick or warr, so I certainly agree with you on that. But you can get very expressive. The warr is more like an actual guitar because you can strum it. But that doesn't work for me because I'm a lefty. kenn On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > From: andy butler > Date: March 11, 2010 1:22:46 PM EST > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) > > > hi Kenn, > it's more an issue that the stick wouldn't work for me personally. > > I have a very unorthodox playing style on string instruments, > and really rely on being able to get a lot of different timbres > and effects from the way I pluck the string. > > it's not about just getting tone, but about getting a range > of different tones. > > > andy > ps, > nice sound by the way, esp the bass --Boundary_(ID_f0MfY+tbZV0RKtTmTbQx8g) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Loopers-Deli= ght-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
<= /span>
Date: March 11, 2010 = 1:22:46 PM EST
Subject: Re: Enver = Izmailov (stick-warr gtr)


hi Kenn,
it's = more an issue that the stick wouldn't work for me personally.

I = have a very unorthodox playing style on string instruments,
and = really rely on being able to get a lot of different timbres
and = effects from the way I pluck the string.

it's not about just = getting tone, but about getting a range
of different = tones.


andy
ps,
nice sound by the way, esp the = bass

= --Boundary_(ID_f0MfY+tbZV0RKtTmTbQx8g)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 20:58:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F7F73BFC5; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oILqmCHxHiy35QBe6afmgs5hIOzyKXsFrkIeloHLq70=; b=Vdv+3KSP/ycveVHVya9fMGA2iwVDA3wQsDW12J5aAEgBIhSSuIgv/GxkdY0S0i8SWJ QE7Pl4m6wZBuGnoO5tnO7MfDAUno8Mw+xqq9raIepPVX5gVQ5rBJMjixIKb4qkUSjcXw zfPUisMhw/wRdRbbI3HT5ktv9zCSSmvDshUQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sl/yWEpc2wNuAYnFfD4TFSxtt97Tj7WuDRx1UC1KAn+m3w5tM48h7bT34rLBA9Q+hn fcpzzsctIgK6vXWxPVtzOGmujzDpkyL0VM+05f2vzPMSjzJDb1osOq7loPuKUrjIyYQL KQQxecie9Po9K3IPWiQCdaAWzF4rcKEb3Vu7I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20100311141311.96E093BF19@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:53:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) (budget studio) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:58:11 +0000 (UTC) The Mac Mini has ONE Firewire 800 port on it ... On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:28 PM, wrote: > Per wrote: >> These day's an Apple pc is just as good as any other running Windows. >> The utility that =A0makes that possible is Bootcamp and comes with any >> OS X box. It requires the user to restart the machine to boot into >> Windows or OS X. > > Yeah, =A0and I just saw that Apple has reduced the price of the > Apple Mini to make it much more affordable to do that. > > > Does the Mini have the firepower to do digital audio, =A0Per? > I see they are down to $499 in the US. > > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 21:10:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08C203BFD6; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RGtaoAfkslaHCwki6oR6toDw+U6bSE0l6+ogwAyO5Dw=; b=pu1QgyVpj2mQyFoNFan6zOleYPGzRtK7EbADUK3E4yv+I2X5HcrjCt/39Mj3gfrA2t 6YDscpuokeXQ1u/L0GbBLh7PIfbsXx9UDiSYzW6ndzb37XCgMwWkWTjYL6I0kpOxd3jr EkHgASSUsueqbWnqZFC+Q+v2BrwvhVFwVx8xw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Gquhf5MDM9d2pufN2TpswsEY4uANSHy29jyoQb3Y58RsJejY9/rQ68zpqbZYCRTj6j zG/8JAqcQsKB445gVj2WclPabRqwjlLTBvkQa0QBTGDlnW747DIdnm8bAjXEz7WJPZWX ASaBTA96Gf9IRsj/X3RqjXhZ1GZKmkmMPiVVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003111242h7a536658jf4179304d7c7744e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100311141311.85BA03BF35@arsenic.violacea.com> <4B9934F6.6090701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003111047i3996b5d8wf62ff18ef0760827@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003111138w794d5497lf6943ddf5d641670@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003111158m4f39fd74xcfa98bb9489be386@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003111242h7a536658jf4179304d7c7744e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:10:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (stick-warr gtr) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e33a37409104818cd916 Resent-Message-ID: <_EHc9.A.vpF.YxVmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:10:48 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7e33a37409104818cd916 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/3/11 Per Boysen > > It seems drummers and piano players already have learned some of the > multitasking skill that is needed to *play* a stick. For guitar > players it is more difficult, especially on the mental side. It really > is not a guitar. > > > in my humble experience, in the earlier stages, guitar players tend to do more notes with the left hand, as they used on the guitar. piano, perc. players or newbies at all, use both hands equally. --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d7e33a37409104818cd916 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2010/3/11 Per Boysen &= lt;perboysen@gmail.com>

It seems drummers and piano players already have learned some of the
multitasking skill that is needed to *play* a stick. For guitar
players it is more difficult, especially on the mental side. It really
is not a guitar.


in my humble experience, in the earlier stages, g= uitar players tend to do more notes with the left hand, as they used on the= guitar. piano, perc. players or newbies at all, use both hands equally.
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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona = que sense saber que estava il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pag= at per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c= un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o a= lguna cosa aix=ED? "


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
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--0016e6d7e33a37409104818cd916-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 21:13:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A83873BFE1; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 583 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:13:49 UTC X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1298929395 Message-ID: <1298929395-1268341445-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-933304160-@bda118.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) (budget studio) From: folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:04:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Hello All I have both USB & FW drives on my MiniMac running Cubase 4 & no problems at all. Mark Showalter cell: 321-230-4559 Minden Jot! www.myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/user/Folkstone57 ------Original Message------ From: looppool@cruzio.com To: Per Boysen Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mar 11, 2010 3:28 PM Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) (budget studio) Per wrote: > These day's an Apple pc is just as good as any other running Windows. > The utility that makes that possible is Bootcamp and comes with any > OS X box. It requires the user to restart the machine to boot into > Windows or OS X. Yeah, and I just saw that Apple has reduced the price of the Apple Mini to make it much more affordable to do that. Does the Mini have the firepower to do digital audio, Per? I see they are down to $499 in the US. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 21:31:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E251F3BF8C; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GaYK4inadK5j/GAr73IwyVWJt/RGb8dpJF9P7GgcNm4=; b=uOykzTZvH1AWLJPUIgmKREpmS7v939VE9mgc9aiNYcE5q7Qz6SL21Vw+cxq7Vp6gXk ZcJZA0+Q2ShmK23S/+JFp6YOaSF/ylaJQQqAWo32TkPpm8vRMJgC/ISFLkZqkzcwITcC cUJXmzLYmaiDqUuUYxJV9xCMQqzv2kt6jPgsU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pTuhQivfxwCCinZ6CLbtrKsBvejGpgr6WLql98AgwzE89tqVLQanaro9VAHOVR9vaN W0kJKQQu88+lknwnuqCT0MR0a46D2AY9KifFR2wbG80xfRS62X+fenjwTvd6ts6Gvc7j +ET5r82oWLsWpcQrZufhxBw+UZqEVZjeFMpsk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <732460.36881.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <006e01cabeb7$f91695e0$50f53747@tbl01fcf9be917> <66f9cc1e1003091539g556bb2b7ic77d0b45180ccca3@mail.gmail.com> <20100310124918.237530@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003100517r7a733b5rc19534b4ae7878f2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311115131.14670@gmx.net> <4B98E017.9090809@tiscali.co.uk> <172969.21609.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4B992CEB.1040504@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003111029r657098e5l1dbd772c2de58edb@mail.gmail.com> <732460.36881.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:31:03 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003111331l29671676u79f3436645d932aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Enver Izmailov (guitarist) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6V0E9B.A.lKG.YEWmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:31:04 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:57 PM, wrote: > yes Per, it's wonderfull to play a two handed percussion instrument that had two separate voices (preamp/effetcs/amplifier), sometimes I feel like i am two people playing together:) It just came to my mind that it in some way reminds of a grand piano. Sound-wise. The fifths based tuning of the bass side strings offers wider voicing of chords than you can reach on a piano, or guitar, and that is a typical sound criterium of a stick - or similar Warr. First time I picked it up I was amazed of how it sort of "played itself". Very good intonation and the chords sound deep and rich, like a grand piano. I'm very impressed with the STick but I must say that my Stick is modern, I do not have any experience with the Sticks built before 2004 (I think it was) when the modern fret rails were introduced. They give a better precision than the previous rods for sliding and bending and as your fingertips feel the high frets you won't need to look at the fretboard much. Actually, you don't need to look much at all on the fretboard because the tuning is all logical - no odd exception as the G/B string in guitar tuning. Also, the melody side tuned in fourths and the bass side tuned in fifths mirror each other with lowest tuned strings at the center of the fretboards. Mathematically/geometrically this means that the same pattern shapes (for which frets to push on) by both hands result in the same notes but at different octaves. If you play a scale run with both hands simultaneously, mirrored, it will produce two melody lines of the same notes but in different octaves where the bass side goes from low notes to high and the melody side goes from high notes to low. At some part of these two runs they hit the same note in the same octave but then they part again. Almost like magic, but it is just logic. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 11 22:14:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6628F3BFB0; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c74PM/6XkZb7MF9zRr1Xdqfiw4Qe0z/t0O3/TOjiWwY=; b=el3srjQ77qJ1I6ltlPRlhOI/TZRY11f2vsTFyS7ii5idhv1BcFC512IBNNvUK4S1qu ffNeyXeRox77ajooLpc8RTwVB1hBd0c+rBD3ftuNGNkD9VGjK9eP3Qlg6dtJbE4xbVAa 6OWe0l8CoZd2Z25ftfn2VxlLmuS2+TfoDor7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WmCUiubvGSrztblZ5yOuiP+FgWT3PmG8G8qMTeujRrIDdzPnL6daV7CqtL1dCQ+khG xPjuBqZcds/r8bp7sDN1GIC38PWzWc0ZF+GE5qYofU3huvDN6F1bLWhf833EGAat/7z5 jnUbuc5SwlapoCw9gd7nWpFr2BNgCR+U7C5Uk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <72d98a$e6f4kq@relay.skynet.be> <432594.31423.qm@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp loop fest From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <89pRYD.A.nMH.CtWmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:14:26 +0000 (UTC) I'm now uploading the 1st video of the Loopfest...stay tuned :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 01:11:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B56DB3BF52; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 918 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:11:04 UTC Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:00:31 +1200 From: G Subject: Looperlative fervant hope To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100311-1, 12/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bob and all After the announcement of the LP2 I expressed a desire for a stereo version of the pedal. Bob's response was encouraging, I'm impressed you're prepared to listen. What I want and cannot find is a stereo looper pedal with: Non volatile memory using memory cards or similar allowing 20 minutes and more of CD quality (or better) stereo tracks, that can be retained on said cards. A bare minimum of two stereo tracks, but preferably more. Rock solid reliable MIDI timing either as master or slave. =20 Can be controlled completely via midi foot controller (or any midi cc) Has stereo instrument level inputs and outputs.=20 There are a lot of other features I'd like, but it'd first need to meet the above. I'm really unimpressed with the stereo looper pedal market. I've thought about writing to EHX about a number of features I'd like to see in their next pedal after the 2880, but I doubt it would happen. The Boss RC-50 appears to be a joke when it comes to midi timing, and has fixed memory. And theres precious little else out there. I am not interested in going the computer route... I have an IT background, and I'd much rather use purpose built hardware. Rack units would be a last resort if I'm forced that way, but I'd much pefer to have a stereo pedal, or at least a rack unit that can be safely installed on a pedal board like my Holmes preamp, and is instrument level friendly.... which leads on to... So my end of the rainbow hope is perhaps down the line the LP1 could be modded to have:=20 * stereo inputs and main outputs switchable between line and instrument level, e.g. eventides factor pedals * memory card slot for non volatile storage of loops, allowing one to build up a library of cards, and choosing the capacity appropriate for each piece 4 minutes to at least 20 minutes if not more. E.g. 2880 boasts 6 mono tracks OR 3 stereo tracks of up to 62 minutes using CF cards. Which suggests 186 minutes of stereo CD quality recording, which would mean 8 equal length stereo tracks gives 23 minutes. * power protection and sturdy enlosure that's pedal board safe both in terms. With that in mind, if it's in a rack enclosure so be it. * Rest of the functionality and capabilities the same as the LP1 If this existed I would be prepared to invest in one. Thanks for your time -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 02:15:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E26F63BF55; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B9996F1.60500@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:20:49 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:15:15 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Mark Mahoney and Michael Peck. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Beyond the Vaulting Skies" by Mark Mahoney on Waiting World Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen on the internet. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 04:23:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EEA03BF5E; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <5C48D1DF5B2A44B1BB60B8D25BE77DAC@NORBY11> <6278953.267.1268294971159.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <6278953.267.1268294971159.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:22:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013A_01CAC161.049D8120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2010 04:23:47.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF65D710:01CAC19B] Resent-Message-ID: <4aqEyD.A.PRG.UHcmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:23:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CAC161.049D8120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This wont' work, because it is inserted only in the analog audio change. = The noise is coming from the power outlet and is infesting my internal = audio in the computer, amp, etc Today, I turned all the lights off in the house...no result. I also = plugged into several different outlets, even those from a recent = re-model. I wonder if it is the wireless routers we have in the house. = Not sure, but I will have to get some expensive unite or a isolation = transformer to be able to record here. :( Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 Kris I bought one of these a while back but honestly have not applied = it so don't know how good. = http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Nady-HE1-Hum-Eliminator-?sku= =3D180014 $29.99. Jim On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: Tried that. It has worked in other places, however, especially with = a comupter in the room and magnetic guitar pickups. ----- Original Message -----=20 t ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kris Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:28 PM Subject: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Is there anything, anything that you can put in between a power = outlet and your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the wall. I = literally can't record because of it. It comes out of my amps by = itself, my computer with guitar plugged into it directly, etc. It is = not my guitar cables, or the ground in the guitar. I have eliminated = these as the source. It is most definitely caused within the circuit of = the wiring in my house. I have no reastat light controllers in my = basement, which was the cause of the noise when I was upstairs, but = turned them off. There has to be something, or this will me insane. Kris --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CAC161.049D8120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This wont' work, because it is inserted = only in the=20 analog audio change. The noise is coming from the power outlet and is = infesting=20 my internal audio in the computer, amp, etc
 
Today, I turned all the lights off in = the=20 house...no result.  I also plugged into several different outlets, = even=20 those from a recent re-model.   I wonder if it is the wireless = routers=20 we have in the house. Not sure, but I will have to get some expensive = unite or a=20 isolation transformer to be able to record here.  :(
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
Kris I bought one of these a while back but honestly have not = applied it=20 so don't know how good.  http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Nady-HE1-= Hum-Eliminator-?sku=3D180014 =20 $29.99.

Jim

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Kris Hartung = <khartung@q.com>=20 wrote:
Tried that. It has worked in other = places,=20 however, especially with a comupter in the room and magnetic guitar=20 pickups.
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-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Kris=20 Hartung
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:=20 Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:28 PM Subject:=20 Constant buzzing - can it be killed!

Is there anything, anything = that you can=20 put in between a power outlet and your gear to prevent buzzing? = It is=20 driving me up the wall. I literally can't record because of = it.  It=20 comes out of my amps by itself, my computer with guitar plugged = into it=20 directly, etc.   It is not my guitar cables, or the = ground in=20 the guitar. I have eliminated these as the source. It is most = definitely=20 caused within the circuit of the wiring in my house.  I = have no=20 reastat light controllers in my basement, which was the cause of = the=20 noise when I was upstairs, but turned them = off.    There=20 has to be something, or this will me insane.
 
Kris
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CAC161.049D8120-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 04:31:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8BE43BF63; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <7888229.139.1268328918846.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <7888229.139.1268328918846.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:31:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2010 04:31:08.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6115700:01CAC19C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Bill. We do indeed have the energy saving bulbs here. However, I turned all the lights off in the house and the buzz persised. Would this do the trick? http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AC-215A_PRO Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Walker" To: Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! > Hey kris if this has become a recent phenomena, it might be due to using > the new energy saving fluorescent light bulbs. I was getting ton of extra > noise until I realized they were the culprit and any room on the same > circuit as mine like the bathroom had to have the lights replaced with > standard incandescent bulbs. I still have some issues with buzz and also > with proximity to transformers in my room, example: if I set my guitar to > close to my furman power conditioner my guitar buzzes. It may be that > my power conditioner is old enough (+20 years) now that some of its > filter capacitors are getting old and noisy. The real solution would be > getting an isolation transformer for your studio room, but they aren't > cheap, some costing upwards of $1000 dollars or more and they tend to > be pretty massive them selves. Try changing the lights first, that may > clear up your problem. > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 04:33:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D0843BF6C; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <7888229.139.1268328918846.JavaMail.root@n34> <16496587.9.1268368532686.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <16496587.9.1268368532686.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:33:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2010 04:33:33.0930 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CCF74A0:01CAC19D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Maybe this would be more promising: http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=229 Isolation transformers must have gone down in price?. I found that the really high wattage ones are expensive, which I don't need. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Thanks, Bill. We do indeed have the energy saving bulbs here. However, I > turned all the lights off in the house and the buzz persised. > > Would this do the trick? > http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AC-215A_PRO > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> Hey kris if this has become a recent phenomena, it might be due to using >> the new energy saving fluorescent light bulbs. I was getting ton of >> extra noise until I realized they were the culprit and any room on the >> same circuit as mine like the bathroom had to have the lights replaced >> with standard incandescent bulbs. I still have some issues with buzz and >> also with proximity to transformers in my room, example: if I set my >> guitar to close to my furman power conditioner my guitar buzzes. It >> may be that my power conditioner is old enough (+20 years) now that some >> of its filter capacitors are getting old and noisy. The real solution >> would be getting an isolation transformer for your studio room, but they >> aren't cheap, some costing upwards of $1000 dollars or more and they >> tend to be pretty massive them selves. Try changing the lights first, >> that may clear up your problem. >> Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 06:51:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D8283BF72; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Ly2Gyolo+oxBtTQjW5bzUfCAYQ8EKBh7IXekJk9nfgg=; b=ago/ZD87aPRsV3V3KIlE6k/jxTCpx8rO3Ojz7IaQxGU+qvE9V5n6XBaDCA/q/mEd7q Vozz0v9+MPK2P7pHzXWz8bqypC1XKTQPdKp2WsYqj2iJNbIMmeWYlzYomhT9g8Z+sdvh ld1JNQfGlvLGzzgoSnF4TTVZ4kfipBvd0Z5uU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ciFGYQY4RNJ4nGu4oJpd9hVDgjTBfAWKDB5KlrKmNwhhVOzqpsNL/rwY6amNPR8JSg zNOwib4C4fNIPQB5uSpi0mqkNRriLwvpdAb2uYAW1vEzGfW0tVqAdpHRXxUW7ocGq1JK MfKJdlLDxkZQDo8ntQ4Qx+EzFso/q80EXZ05I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:51:22 -0500 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b1003112251r118732e0x6aac89e5a1f464f8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: EDP Midi sync question From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:51:26 +0000 (UTC) @AndyB - Thank you much for the keyword there, I found that there is indeed a midi patch bay, but, it's pretty old and rare. The one I stumbled on is a Ensoniq KMX-16: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ensoniq_KMX-16_Programmable_15_x_16_MIDI_Patchbay_%28closeup%29.jpg I think this is the type of thing I may be searching for but, ahh don't I have enough gear weighing me down? This may be the one thing that broke the camel's back in terms of the hardware/software debate going on in my head. @Per - I like the idea of a bunch of EDP in one room hahah, that's not going to happen to me any time soon. But, the idea of running a laptop, if not for anything else but to control midi and run Live. Hmmm....Do you think it'd be possible to have a computer w/ a newer MIDI interface, like say MOTU for example, running something like Live as the slave? MIDI interface on a PC, running Ableton, w/ EDP as the master? Just looking for general ideas here, there's a lot for me to study right now. @Ace - Well, besides the fact that I'm gonna get out and do some livelooping this summer (in public - and I've love to have you out to do so), perhaps we should save our duckettes and skip across the pond! Thank you all for your response and help, Loaf. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 07:46:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 552603BF78; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jIbe3NHa/oGzGuk84R3tqaC9ZkX4JwKCfTDaQ70HwJs=; b=YfWfcay8xeLYkWbHh7nHzx7mo38p8cX+0jV/tcu/bJJGynvQ4rtfZkD0zyZZyEGlTn o2j/YS0O5Hv4r1mc/yFoL4tB8XDXgk8ffJlo9m+f+TjhwFqDid6ROU8B5PN+e7Wptya+ TM7OwDb9DKHFlQRIBhQ8WP+qE1TycLiKd85GI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=g11GGZTrqlu5aSCSgkLxZvYGyybBbVK3rOl1sk/WVWIuQ5en9Rqw/Cf6E5ET8B4pkk al1B0gl553Ne/rsniPgE/Pbr2xl/FYg0jAq/LsLccsRFMYORLv5VvWjA8EVSbFfx94nM poDmoRNoJ3mTuphX2mQ67g7Vs9NgPQSPXX7oU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:45:58 +0200 Message-ID: <616a981d1003112345s250ac6f0v233536684a836df6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: unsubscribe From: Niel van Zyl To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ca54dbc67d048195b893 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:46:00 +0000 (UTC) --00504502ca54dbc67d048195b893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 unsubscribe --00504502ca54dbc67d048195b893 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 unsubscribe
--00504502ca54dbc67d048195b893-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 14:49:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EFA33BF62; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9FmuXOyroLIgfW6nKnP+/a6xFoVQqM8CqDiVGyoeHsU=; b=LcRY5dy9yukkgjdoqx02I0AIfo5ohv9ZNt3UjtgWycMcdo9zuGUETBDqy4UrZdoppL xVVPU+/L9YgKhgch/RKStVHVl8iU2uTBwUE9HP4c4o4Ase4uXraKH+8UGmEZrN8sOtJy mLXeXSpAFc2scLPITY7GnduYHraxQvdmBrAZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lNpalP9gWxWW+jgOo9eYi+7HRkbUYteeg72rTWKi0BhoIbYw/TWHZ/KSr9YiJIZPl1 c5mPBx78uwPuRdwGxMZH0NpJuafS/SqIqQfC87HmML4UJFLxKBfl/hfCgW+62FZa9q/B SSa8DKa617+1cWcouUlt5R6JXH2hSiLViFGjc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <616a981d1003112345s250ac6f0v233536684a836df6@mail.gmail.com> References: <616a981d1003112345s250ac6f0v233536684a836df6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:49:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d464cf486dea04819ba21c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:49:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d464cf486dea04819ba21c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey, c'mon!! 2010/3/12 Niel van Zyl > unsubscribe > --0016e6d464cf486dea04819ba21c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, c'mon!!

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--0016e6d464cf486dea04819ba21c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 15:59:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 956F13BF66; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <13597.72.51.1268409578.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:59:38 -0400 (AST) Subject: MIDI Controller Suggestions From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Does anyone have any suggestions for a MIDI controller for my m9? I've been using my FCB1010, but it's a bit of a beast and I'm just using it switch through the patches on the m9. Thanks, Andre Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 16:03:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D814A3BF70; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o6wqUUzwj+R1ebTWajAQwjnBrRmlLj903e6XyKqVtlY=; b=h2/i4PlnnGt74tfMSeV8fY8ehYY5ajGBJN2CUdcolGP64gaGE4nDirbhPjnEvGG/rp 1KZeZA37isilZB58TbgEypn1B4mks4Wafdoi0wjQ2+yqzRwFgsDNf3OChIHD5ovLa2tb W2dknG6oAJer/4HsGl3db0ad/7I0Y/u5a0XYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hLvJLm5PRJfV6sDNy/q3ff66UaDZzQsnxDt/uSNy0whEJuNvPl7qKayuQ3+6+h1a1S 0OAxxLftm/x7PEvv11TkrLDRevzr3szoHfHchk+QcmcYVJ8ogdbxSIskQebN4swJZ/eZ Gz9DYC/sOyfF5Jo2KUavZveyjAgZpRwNY5O/Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:03:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looperlative fervant hope From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:03:33 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:00 AM, G wrote: > The Boss RC-50 appears to be a joke when it comes to midi timing, and > has fixed memory. You can use the USB interface import and export loops and (I think) replace the internal drum samples. Regarding sync: the RC-50 works fine as a master and can be slaved if you send a midi start from the master. It can do feedback on 1 track when you use the aux output and inputs to create a feedback loop. This is a workaround but it works fine. Big plus: it is very stable. > I am not interested in going the computer route... I have an IT > background, and I'd much rather use purpose built hardware. I have an IT background too and use both hardware and software loopers. Imo, if you treat a computer like a dedicated hardware looper, it can work like a hardware looper but it requires discipline and testing hours. Keep in mind that every hardware loopers internally runs on software, 100% hardware does not exist. What you also could do is combining a laptop and the LP1. Expensive, but the LP1 allows you to import and export loops you recorded via the built-in Ethernet interface. Another idea: Bob has been working on a built-in storage solution for the LP1. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 16:19:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 316A23BF6E; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1268410752; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=4rBgnqLOwvysLKD1MPbfR6dUQQM=; b=rFNjrFWdth07rwQ8lZRNNcqDQdTWwD8MMuCircpGvppsr5R8pir6sUGBWm3FLXAG P7BVXf9CuNT4NUUO8EG+3n1rn2BOl3R1pGESf/nwa9tNeGUZ3vooXmLMMNP2LiTu; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3Fvfw4jH23eYqry4S6rCxOIvGa3nL/SXp2HmxFdxezg= c=1 sm=0 a=nVEgZpYkFumxWea5+NkTxg==:17 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=OswlY4udTqqAJBi3fT8A:9 a=JBOMOs2v021PaZP0VgQA:7 a=L7Jp_EQqT-zJsDcQXRD1xm6q5KsA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=_w1rQ1tFbzM-jqELg18A:9 a=U7nEGz4KWmTPpUOENHEA:7 a=o53PP4h6rJuSPAqmOHE7ZmYLfyAA:4 a=nVEgZpYkFumxWea5+NkTxg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002e01cac1ff$c0847d50$c6f03747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <616a981d1003112345s250ac6f0v233536684a836df6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:19:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01CAC1D5.D777ADE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:19:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CAC1D5.D777ADE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable where are we going? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Petri Lahtinen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: Re: unsubscribe hey, c'mon!! 2010/3/12 Niel van Zyl unsubscribe -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. 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------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CAC1D5.D777ADE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 16:30:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4FFE3BF64; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: how do you store your cables? Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:38 +0100 Message-ID: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcrCAVk4ZVBodTGqRsy2AsUuoERE5g== X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.180; VDF: 7.10.5.60) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC) I have just bought some flat cardboard boxes from Ikea that will contain various kinds of cables - converter cables, say, from cinch (RCA) to 3,5mm or 1/4" jacks all in one box, RCA on both ends in another box, small converter plugs in another box, etc. It probably would make more sense to hang the cables from some kind of rail but I don't have the space (and it would look ugly). How does everyone stores their cables? is it possible to store them so they don't look ugly in your bedroom (if that's where the studio is as in my case), but also so that you can find everything quickly? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 16:39:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E92C3BF72; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:38:56 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.17.92 In-Reply-To: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30746-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC9019A4E2BC62-8FA4-237D@webmail-d059.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:39:16 +0000 (UTC) How does everyone stores their cables? wear them? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 16:42:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A929F3BF7F; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268412153; bh=2Efbr43zPQncBluNrflrCmxK1JOpm4zi41/kyEROs94=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YRP/MRNsHm5FV2GvlARbWET6t92qM6PDQ6oMaJGFaQU2oLGdVVQQ8qzqGEcY/d4djd6OY4s9GQh+PNsx9KJXEXlmGpd095jwQXKKFaBWtJ7DHiHxJ2J1lpZLdh2zHNDIJFPmPXjkaILelclBsJpXXgzmZ6cCWtqIZR/g9Mv4Z2Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xk0HiwOMSO8OEWtZYos0d+vNucury8LSIiOK7mTyZ93PGMwOPmVNQGN6Q8cW9yLEeyMj2ITT4CIsZU7Nf1oZQ9Ct7Qdt/A0QWo2NcSvfKF29eDpayhmcn/tdsEesrypG8JLMFQaVMp4TlvbXGVeX4u7HjlD30hMCgXBHxCqiZU4=; Message-ID: <275854.34691.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QKpk2JMVM1m4iFz6Z6ocEK4GzrVT.S1R_N8xz7ByNezgtYde3PzIUi_Wj7HAlSpxt93ZcEvmJLsFECNdXQIDAr85NUxEOI2WZ2SX2JVpcEaUf37nTaOIC_w8bCeGH5CCgnDcgcarljylMKPyc8bpzUS_WJYCZSZgpknU96zlpDb5Tw4ZnGtixqRDE4D5r4sFqpEGFVmJwDHkWU11cimZC2Xcg6oetvB.0S6c_Y5lqlxop_pkWR8xUjmSYw7hcD1iEanKrF8W9Y2KO.esB5OAY9WEE.ntRG2YWEQSt5BKPUVibP_GTraZkhAWm_tvYWSGVJmDJ4k_gAxeVHrqM7IH6bLkcZ0i7klvWizZiWZLrdlb X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:42:33 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: review thoughts on: boss SLICER/ digitech TIMEBENDER To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-486357936-1268412153=:34691" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:42:34 +0000 (UTC) --0-486357936-1268412153=:34691 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, i sent this on thur, but my yahoo email hasn't sent it out. i'll try ag= ain, may have to get different email acct, this is frustrating....here's what i sent =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASome quick reviews=E2=80=A6BOSS SLICER=E2=80=A6 =0Ai've only been experimenting w/ it for a couple days=E2=80=A6 =0Ait's a keeper. i think i'll have to read the manual. but as rick w. says= , =0Athere's lots to do w/ it w/ mixing the direct vs effect amt. =0Athe thing about it is, you feed it different stuff, it does different th= ings. =0Ahonestly, it sounds cool when distorted guitar is fed to it-see the guit= ar world =0Avid review-they play w/ that a lot. =0Abut i like it. honestly i liked the slicer effect in my roland ef303, bu= t that=0Aunit is SO BIG (built like a tank though), the slicer pedal i thin= k gives a=0Anice variation of it...ok=E2=80=A6follow-up: I was messing arou= nd w/ it w/ my direct=0Asetup (playing when=C2=A0 the li=E2=80=99l monsters= =0Aare asleep) and I had a short modulated delay, the slicer on & one of my= =0Aheavy distortions amp models going, then on my whacky new guitar that ha= s=0Aon-off switches for the pu=E2=80=99s-so I can sort of do the buckethead= /tom morello=0Astaccato effects w/ it=E2=80=94it sounded so cool, messed w/= that a bit. Most fun. I will=0Asay that I think it=E2=80=99s not an effect= that you can leave on all the time, but w/=0Athe mix options, you can turn= it down and it can give subtle things to your=0Aplaying=E2=80=A6I will go = w/ rick on this though, it=E2=80=99ll take me forever to find all it=0Acan = do, I should probably read the manual=E2=80=A6=20 =0A =0Aok, as for the DIGITECH TIMEBENDER=E2=80=A6 =0Awell, remember us all chiming in on why a co. would just copy a pedal & = put=0Ait out (hello digitech jamman pedal-aren't you close to the boss rc20= ?)...well,=0Athis thing isn't copying anything....at least i don't think (w= ell maybe=0Aeventide delays that i've read about?) =0Athe problem is, i think it's more of a pitchshifter than a delay per se.= i mean=0Athere's tons of options of how you want the repeats. up/down shif= ting, etc etc.=0Ait does sound cool. but i guess after i've messed w/ it a = bit, i wonder-can it=0Abe applied to anything? and i'm not honestly sure if= it can. here's the thing-i=0Adon't think it's a great delay. it's ok. it j= ust sort of creates washes of=0Asound behind your playing for the most part= . and it can be cool for us experimentalists,=0Abut i sort of wonder if the= same effect can be gotten out of cheaper gear or a=0Abetter delay. yes it = has a looper (again-let=E2=80=99s throw the looper in there for sound on so= und but=0Ayou can't do anything to it!) but i don't honestly think it does = %100=0Afeedback-which bummed me out (since I favor delay based looping)=E2= =80=A6and then as I was=0Areading the manual/info, I noticed that they adve= rtise this thing having the ability=0Ato =E2=80=9CBEND TIME=E2=80=9D, when = honestly I think it does more of =E2=80=9CBENDING PITCH=E2=80=9D. But for= =0Ame, I think the effect I=E2=80=99ve been least impressed w/ is pitchbend= ing, sure I thought=0Ait was cool back in=E2=80=9901 w/ my old digitech rp1= 00, but after a while=E2=80=A6.after I played=0Aw/ it I thought, well if yo= u want to be the musical equivalent of MONET=E2=80=99s=0AIMPRESSIONISM, may= be it=E2=80=99s for you, but I sort of tired of what it could do=0Aafter aw= hile. Like I said, it just seemed weak in the actual DELAY area for me.=0AA= lthough I should say that I did think the envelope setting was decent-I gue= ss=0Ait=E2=80=99s like the slicer in that regards, and the settings that we= re most fun were=0Athe few that used random intervals (well they list the r= andom intervals in the=0Amanual-so is it really random? Not sure, but it so= unds random), and when I was=0Aplaying w/ that for a bit I honestly thought= it sounded like ANDRE LA FOSSE=E2=80=99s=0Aedp glitch =E2=80=93stuff=E2=80= =A6it was kind of cool for a bit, but I didn=E2=80=99t think I want to=0Ago= that route since Andre LF does it way better than i. I did think the dynam= ic=0Asettings of tape and analog delays were decent, and when you would pla= y w/ the=0Atime they would slide up and down nice, but the problem is that = the repeats=0Awere so faint, never could get it to sound 100%, like I said = it was just washes=0Aof stuff=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99m sure down the road I=E2= =80=99ll hear someone who just does amazing things=0Awith it and think, hmm= mm, man I was dumb or whatever=E2=80=A6but overall, I haven=E2=80=99t=0Abee= n impressed with it. maybe I had too high of expectations, and maybe w/ the= =0Aterm =E2=80=9Ctimebender=E2=80=9D I had too high of hopes for it. but fo= r me, I pulled it out=0Aof my setup last night and put my digitech DL8 back= in, & was much happier=0A(hence the fun I had w/ the modulated delay & sli= cer and my on/off switch!)=0A=0AHappy looping=E2=80=A6=0A=0As---=0A=0A=0A = --0-486357936-1268412153=:34691 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ok, i sent this on thur, but my yahoo email h= asn't sent it out. i'll try again, may have
to get different email acct,= this is frustrating....here's what i sent


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=0A=0A

So= me quick reviews=E2=80=A6BOSS SLICER=E2=80=A6
=0Ai've only been experime= nting w/ it for a couple days=E2=80=A6
=0Ait's a keeper. i think i'll ha= ve to read the manual. but as rick w. says,
=0Athere's lots to do w/ it = w/ mixing the direct vs effect amt.
=0Athe thing about it is, you feed i= t different stuff, it does different things.
=0Ahonestly, it sounds cool= when distorted guitar is fed to it-see the guitar world
=0Avid review-they play w/ that a lot= .
=0Abut i like it. honestly i liked the slicer effect in my roland ef30= 3, but that=0Aunit is SO BIG (built like a tank though), the slicer pedal i= think gives a=0Anice variation of it...ok=E2=80=A6follow-up: I was messing= around w/ it w/ my direct=0Asetup (playing when  the li=E2=80=99l monsters=0Aare asleep) and I had a short modulated del= ay, the slicer on & one of my=0Aheavy distortions amp models going, the= n on my whacky new guitar that has=0Aon-off switches for the pu=E2=80=99s-s= o I can sort of do the buckethead/tom morello=0Astaccato effects w/ it=E2= =80=94it sounded so cool, messed w/ that a bit. Most fun. I will=0Asay that= I think it=E2=80=99s not an effect that you can leave on all the time, but= w/=0Athe mix options, you can turn it down and it can give subtle things t= o your=0Aplaying=E2=80=A6I will go w/ rick on this though, it=E2=80=99ll ta= ke me forever to find all it=0Acan do, I should probably read the manual=E2= =80=A6
=0A
=0Aok, as for the DIGITECH TIMEBENDER=E2=80=A6
=0Awell= , remember us all chiming in on why a co. would just copy a pedal & put= =0Ait out (hello digitech jamman pedal-aren't you close to the boss rc20?).= ..well,=0Athis thing isn't copying anything....at least i don't think (well= maybe=0Aeventide delays that i've read about?)
=0Athe problem is, i thi= nk it's more of a pitchshifter than a delay per se. i mean=0Athere's tons o= f options of how you want the repeats. up/down shifting, etc etc.=0Ait does= sound cool. but i guess after i've messed w/ it a bit, i wonder-can it=0Ab= e applied to anything? and i'm not honestly sure if it can. here's the thin= g-i=0Adon't think it's a great delay. it's ok. it just sort of creates wash= es of=0Asound behind your playing for the most part. and it can be cool for= us experimentalists,=0Abut i sort of wonder if the same effect can be gott= en out of cheaper gear or a=0Abetter delay. yes it has a looper (again-let= =E2=80=99s throw the looper in there for sou= nd on sound but=0Ayou can't do anything to it!) but i = don't honestly think it does %100=0Afeedback-which bummed me out (since I f= avor delay based looping)=E2=80=A6and then as I was=0Areading the manual/in= fo, I noticed that they advertise this thing having the ability=0Ato =E2=80= =9CBEND TIME=E2=80=9D, when honestly I think it does more of =E2=80=9CBENDI= NG PITCH=E2=80=9D. But for=0Ame, I think the effect I=E2=80=99ve been least= impressed w/ is pitchbending, sure I thought=0Ait was cool back in=E2=80= =9901 w/ my old digitech rp100, but after a while=E2=80=A6.after I played= =0Aw/ it I thought, well if you want to be the musical equivalent of MONET= =E2=80=99s=0AIMPRESSIONISM, maybe it=E2=80=99s for you, but I sort of tired= of what it could do=0Aafter awhile. Like I said, it just seemed weak in th= e actual DELAY area for me.=0AAlthough I should say that I did think the en= velope setting was decent-I guess=0Ait=E2=80=99s like the slicer in that re= gards, and the settings that were most fun were=0Athe few that used random = intervals (well they list the random intervals in the=0Amanual-so is it rea= lly random? Not sure, but it sounds random), and when I was=0Aplaying w/ th= at for a bit I honestly thought it sounded like ANDRE LA FOSSE=E2=80=99s=0A= edp glitch =E2=80=93stuff=E2=80=A6it was kind of cool for a bit, but I didn= =E2=80=99t think I want to=0Ago that route since Andre LF does it way bette= r than i. I did think the dynamic=0Asettings of tape and analog delays were= decent, and when you would play w/ the=0Atime they would slide up and down= nice, but the problem is that the repeats=0Awere so faint, never could get= it to sound 100%, like I said it was just washes=0Aof stuff=E2=80=A6I=E2= =80=99m sure down the road I=E2=80=99ll hear someone who just does amazing things=0Awith it a= nd think, hmmmm, man I was dumb or whatever=E2=80=A6but overall, I haven=E2= =80=99t=0Abeen impressed with it. maybe I had too high of expectations, and= maybe w/ the=0Aterm =E2=80=9Ctimebender=E2=80=9D I had too high of hopes f= or it. but for me, I pulled it out=0Aof my setup last night and put my digi= tech DL8 back in, & was much happier=0A(hence the fun I had w/ the modu= lated delay & slicer and my on/off switch!)

=0A=0A

Happy looping=E2=80=A6

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=0A=0A --0-486357936-1268412153=:34691-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 16:56:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1DBA3BF8B; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 303 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:56:14 UTC Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:50:50 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on hons_100/Servers/FarmersInsurance(Release 8.5.1|September 28, 2009) at 03/12/2010 10:51:06 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:56:14 +0000 (UTC) I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2010 and will not return until 03/19/2010. 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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:05:59 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:06:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-196067281 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed (here we go again) Mooooo Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: > > > > > I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2010 and will not > return until > 03/19/2010. > > For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg > Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. > > ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any > documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged > and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the > addressee(s) named above. 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Mooooo


=
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On 12 Mar 2010, = at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersin= surance.com wrote:





I will be out of the office starting  03/12/2010 and will not = return until
03/19/2010.

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Bouffard @ 323 932 = 3793.

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= --Apple-Mail-1-196067281-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 17:06:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84CB33BF94; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EQohapnuhjHtz/xW3VNXzXEbkCbcZ5pF/C56P97E0HE=; b=h9CdZu9cXw7lepKuH/RgAaztB0jA+TAQYDkKfapb8F5+Rlq7JiAcFlZ3AgkCFtGqgS Fnd8TAvrCpdstZc7sOhj9UNu9VpfYOMfMkBetu4G5jlRNKRRLwH+mFI9waI9UY1Ei7yG 045Amep2Tzk2hM3WetP1YyOgJ1Qkliig4BxTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DhYQINOexhESR9QunsHK7MlY5Nv5XY/yaqZ+hPqUc0Ov2peN+gbSTFECFYN8AryeSU +pUvK7llMNPeUIz2cEqihQ7rYHQNCdoSYVsQ/D8rFRQDxgw9K5a1/gqKNHOLNfPPWqOq HHgsDt08IWMlE99Q5w+BVgjh7lizvVNLBnRhI= Message-ID: <4B9A746A.4040502@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:05:46 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: [Virtual Gig]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions, this Saturday 3-12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <71f_AD.A.AXH.WSnmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Tune in for another rendition of the MoinSound Studio Sessions tomorrow at 1700 (GMT): http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions Date/Time link: http://bit.ly/dAJnvj This session will include (for the first time in more than ten years) myself doing a cover version! Yes, you read right! Which tune, you ask? Sufficient to say that the composer/original recording artist is a member of this group. Tomorrow's show will again be a keyboard-only show, in case you're interested. Looking forward to seeing you there, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 17:08:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DEAE3BF92; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Rt91ZewzLNN6pPU31gUWBcgNNEgxHEWQ3xnZVFruZ1Y=; b=pTRa25LF610xE1q1sTZt8POFAzjdEvMVPP4jcToFXKeQlOMs56ktX5w2Ai+Ee1JhEX M1wsxrlvkzsD4YUKZEOvtvfTnKcAsf4W7MS9ymgbQc6df1GwnZWqfQm4aZmQTWxaKud0 PmhfdL/rC2/YpHPJfGxyPy7qKPPuJrY4jpU9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FbpRCmNH5EKagQm/vcI2HCgJ37DVx6hF4enJwhfE7wp0CIXCTrBz25Cvc2elV3qJ4R d8UwhOfF+6NZffphuMJ1B49gt55zJXFRjsVbKsoAowgi86QMMLXzaIbBWVQO9G9Qw88U aOI21OeF1+HR+9Y4ucL7H+883rdI6qNELZ6Oc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CC9019A4E2BC62-8FA4-237D@webmail-d059.sysops.aol.com> References: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <8CC9019A4E2BC62-8FA4-237D@webmail-d059.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:08:23 +0000 Message-ID: <5d9904371003120908r1b893553q395bbd7ead34a243@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? From: Mark McGlinchey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:08:27 +0000 (UTC) I have the coiled on a big hook, sometimes they get tangled though which can be a bit of pain in the arse. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:38 PM, wrote: > > How does everyone stores their cables? > > > wear them? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 17:09:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C532D3BFA8; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aS+P5vslLx17fAvfGORwjxpwS574q8rdipKLkFq+i6M=; b=lPVll3Pghr9ibDsc5vlwFbzPnU/PlqMwsQDXIRTiUDubtPiXMWTNO3Q+H1dLvcZ8fZ 9w364fl6oNMRXjS0acloTZ8t2G4p6lvdOw4AtK3PT9UCMtWL/9hFj5C3b3ksCb5RYRlu DTAnD+j5mnWRiiTShfnl3a3hWo7YWyX7lKj20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g+BWli2I1E7/fcY2nwgQ2yJKdoOMsyXJZOTL+M8kCGq36BRvIgOYalLV3hOmmYbNAC tzGvP8u0fN3Lv63uLh8T1OwgAMzMiKSLdS2pJW2T40mYpyPts2iqoGHYwHVZAqvoom4e IlSpo4w5udiyEaSK3/Kqo2sfr/Em/byLPMW0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5d9904371003120908r1b893553q395bbd7ead34a243@mail.gmail.com> References: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <8CC9019A4E2BC62-8FA4-237D@webmail-d059.sysops.aol.com> <5d9904371003120908r1b893553q395bbd7ead34a243@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:08:58 +0000 Message-ID: <5d9904371003120908n60822eb1s49a73d6f0b6a9fe7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? From: Mark McGlinchey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:09:01 +0000 (UTC) I should say that when I am not being lazy I put a bit of tape round them to stop this happening, more often than not I don't bother though. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Mark McGlinchey wrote: > I have the coiled on a big hook, sometimes they get tangled though > which can be a bit of pain in the arse. > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:38 PM, =A0 wrote: >> >> How does everyone stores their cables? >> >> >> wear them? >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 17:11:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACAA33BFB6; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ImlvPso0IuTew7KSodSybr0w/PXqEJB0q4qaU3Pqnqs=; b=waaiYabH84nPA7M+TAcFd3vuWzFykCqJmOtkfm9Eci77jYnTRjkUMNc+fX/3CgBwQ2 yT5vpBngrxSwTr2q0zmXGpKBI8+If1FdCfwst6HFKLYSic8ZQi/mGNvT8CFipINmGAiT b05akN+JrxxZmUlOtZhhCJCwNdXOkOJwaUJJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O+Qcg7Xa0OPGKSrKnnJocQXQ7CCwp2mW57N/75lJOu6ZUqrcNUhZ/OOilhW1VL1HbQ enPDENeRqn5Uur1XJxJ+S4lhoxR6uiG2433+aRc9Z0/lx4pM9C8JpOEKr1HG7tdNEuuX +mSVBrhmwWWBMqbLU/I4cJLRhiyDCT8hTvdqQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5d9904371003120908n60822eb1s49a73d6f0b6a9fe7@mail.gmail.com> References: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <8CC9019A4E2BC62-8FA4-237D@webmail-d059.sysops.aol.com> <5d9904371003120908r1b893553q395bbd7ead34a243@mail.gmail.com> <5d9904371003120908n60822eb1s49a73d6f0b6a9fe7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:11:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e647eebcd6e18404819d9fda Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:11:39 +0000 (UTC) --0016e647eebcd6e18404819d9fda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I coil mine up and keep them in a large chest. I keep patch cables in a pile next to my rack. The only problem with the chest is that it gets crap piled on top, so when I need a cable, I have to un-bury the chest. :) >> > >> How does everyone stores their cables? > >> > >> > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0016e647eebcd6e18404819d9fda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I coil mine up and keep them in a large chest. I keep patch cables in a pil= e next to my rack.=A0 The only problem with the chest is that it gets crap = piled on top, so when I need a cable, I have to un-bury the chest. :)
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--0016e647eebcd6e18404819d9fda-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 17:12:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D20A3BFC0; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qqpWwyiPPgJy2F32sjRvEJoo1bZBtPgxz6Pb1jbsPiA=; b=SID0mgX9kIF5fuSgGmE5lQ7GCQP60daZVeHkgkHY69ZACZUsu5DEq4TavUmnuv3FnZ 6GaNLuJ6XQ1gVPd2VunE8AxhN7FMRPYDisU6XoKQ26C466S5qXIFjHat4yIshxP1MbXs f0Qh7pCn/+br+Po9BdC653Y1uOhLARx66mCd8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DQYXMWmLTTWUAhaExAO0iRoMXvp7nZOwtbRXIttaMEMGbfiK9IVACU0TyO0Ie8ruVf TwsaJ19rJACGgUUyP+e7HTb86BHyZz3RUSjDjuYCOlMBdPJwKZOR4cuWcRbpoGZ5nIPk qxI9/8Z9LXy5EJ5uVb3aBB2HJOHE+luLzg000= Message-ID: <4B9A75EB.2020601@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:12:11 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? References: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters schrieb: > It probably would make more sense to hang the cables from some kind of rail > but I don't have the space (and it would look ugly). > > How does everyone stores their cables? is it possible to store them so the http://twitpic.com/x31ey Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder! (There's still some stored in a big drawer - I mean really big. And lots of them are in the equipment). -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 17:34:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D3C83BFB3; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <697F085F-E4ED-4AAD-971C-0E02B3C99D51@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-197773832 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:34:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:34:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-197773832 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Bill. We do indeed have the energy saving bulbs here. However, I turned all the lights off in the house and the buzz persised. Would this do the trick? http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AC-215A_PRO Kris It might have some effect, though this is not a true isolation transformer Maybe this would be more promising: http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=229 Isolation transformers must have gone down in price?. I found that the really high wattage ones are expensive, which I don't need. Kris This would be the more likely candidate, let me know if you get it and how well it works. I'm in the market as well due to the crappy old wiring in our house. It also occurred to me that it could very well be caused by wireless interference or perhaps a neighbor operating a ham radio or heavy machinery like an arc welder or big electric saw. Do you have any big power lines or microwave towers near by? When I was recording at the Technical Institute Studio in Istanbul with Erdem, They had an isolation transformer the size of an industrial refrigerator, and we still had some radio interference. Is it possible you have right wing extremists operating a pirate radio station near by? hey it doesn't hurt to ask:-) Bill --Apple-Mail-1-197773832 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Bill. We do indeed have the energy saving = bulbs here. However, I turned all the lights off in the house and the = buzz persised.

Would this do the trick? http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=3D01&id=3D= AC-215A_PRO

Kris

 It might have = some effect, though  this is not a true isolation = transformer


Maybe this would be more promising:

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Isolation transformers must have gone down in = price?. I found that the really high wattage ones are expensive, which I = don't need.

Kris

 This would be the = more likely candidate, let me know if you get it and how well it works. = I'm in the market as well due to the crappy old wiring in our house. It = also occurred to me that it could very well be caused by wireless = interference or perhaps a neighbor operating a ham radio or heavy = machinery like an arc welder or  big electric saw. Do you have any = big power lines or microwave towers near by?
 When I was recording = at the Technical Institute Studio in Istanbul with Erdem, They had an = isolation transformer the size of an industrial refrigerator, and we = still had some radio interference. Is it possible you have right wing = extremists operating a pirate radio station near by?  hey it = doesn't hurt to ask:-)
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1-197773832-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 18:00:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00F8F3BFE3; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_e2INfZ/8rBp3YKHy6TM/lQ)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003120139 Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <697F085F-E4ED-4AAD-971C-0E02B3C99D51@baymoon.com> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:00:44 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:00:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_e2INfZ/8rBp3YKHy6TM/lQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ham radio is in MHz so the carrier is a little too high for interference. The arc welder or saw would have to be used constantly. Any object with a length of metal in it can be an antenna, so an iso transformer may not prevent all RF/HF interference. t It also occurred to me that it could very well be caused by wireless interference or perhaps a neighbor operating a ham radio or heavy machinery like an arc welder or big electric saw. Do you have any big power lines or microwave towers near by? When I was recording at the Technical Institute Studio in Istanbul with Erdem, They had an isolation transformer the size of an industrial refrigerator, and we still had some radio interference. Is it possible you have right wing extremists operating a pirate radio station near by? hey it doesn't hurt to ask:-) Bill --Boundary_(ID_e2INfZ/8rBp3YKHy6TM/lQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Ham radio is in MHz so the carrier is a little too high for interference.
The arc welder or saw would have to be used constantly.
Any object with a length of metal in it can be an antenna, so an iso transformer may not prevent all RF/HF interference.
 
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 It also occurred to me that it could very well be caused by wireless interference or perhaps a neighbor operating a ham radio or heavy machinery like an arc welder or  big electric saw. Do you have any big power lines or microwave towers near by?
 When I was recording at the Technical Institute Studio in Istanbul with Erdem, They had an isolation transformer the size of an industrial refrigerator, and we still had some radio interference. Is it possible you have right wing extremists operating a pirate radio station near by?  hey it doesn't hurt to ask:-)
Bill
--Boundary_(ID_e2INfZ/8rBp3YKHy6TM/lQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 18:07:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15EC33BFE4; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qzwdTrOrP6PfEJNeUpAGE9+tYOI4kHoKjkAHk6xfAJ8=; b=KpVG8bqzU2iTzjATgPQ1gqPzUyso9HBmOJzIi8QFZDvH1NPxEW4fyaLTVEJdRfIEIs RW6ljdhn/z/8BY1+/qPooOmSJklYif/Igqj6mcf0yc5hdpqq3yKP1XEUbAv8iqOQT6Nz pjYwfdgYLNc9Wz1uN5WpS9sum18z8vyrBhd6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YkYlN1ixnLT60xuV4rsnOloLTWlN1bwvdZvtVLlu1HoA+M+D2MADFIpl/uSnfzq34u pERd33KXXh5dBgHZek3T48pqH4Q/IH9WrDqk5FL8Cl2scT91iUxcqq0/ffU/DRa0T2tS 9kmxig1IFLG3BE9YWvqUcKq1XvhmAIgEVhEpE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B9A75EB.2020601@googlemail.com> References: <00b101cac201$60214770$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4B9A75EB.2020601@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:07:20 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003121007m4b6ff42elfdac775cbb787e8b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:07:22 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder! Best suggestion so far! ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 21:07:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E69D3BF81; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:07:14 -0800 Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? From: Qua Veda To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: how do you store your cables? Thread-Index: AcrCJ/0kgdf3jvuWHU2OVybZsv4qCA== In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003121007m4b6ff42elfdac775cbb787e8b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MagicMail-UUID: 3be6e7b2-2e1b-11df-adaf-001517857ac1 Resent-Message-ID: <3mAvcD.A.hbH.F0qmLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Large plastic ziplock bags can be useful for organizing, labeling -Qua On 3/12/10 10:07 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Rainer Straschill > wrote: >> Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder! > > Best suggestion so far! ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > -Qua From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 21:08:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51AA93BF85; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xmW1fjdjbMHCcvvuQ1dGoh9BCEfNATRAg78pzWA+6r4=; b=GJk5+8M1L45dCX0DnitK/AOFFJWuJtEcUWTGteaJp9Mg1b5B+C6tP/I5kbsjm1RQyF 0D61ePvWnax2/QtVSE2UE1rd/2phqnOckfD8DDHZW2M/V/kdW0lLbMpte8g8i4eZvtEa cSKJqJSC+mOS/Fw8wUE0bJgGkG2+yexvjhpBY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=h6Vkq224GUSjtq/qMp2t9wbmaM6iMUHus2bgw00w5CjEgnHnGhK+/0Ox0nam0gnVN5 ihZbSVQL2UfzNzaqER5VEvJFeXC4d8PFcCMMdeHx3W1/fGy1qKjuC6uiCM44+yV9tvBG IXqtcdt7+Q6UuHxnjcXV1ntyN40aBUpFGPvEc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:08:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: storing cables/studio probs.....(switching email...) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367d5858b475e90481a0eebf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:08:28 +0000 (UTC) --0016367d5858b475e90481a0eebf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i store my cables in a sack. and when i need one, it's a mess to sort out. i need a better system. i apologize for my weird slicer/timebender email-my yahoo acct is all whacky, my 1st version of that email that i sent early on thur, never sent. then the 2nd one i send , and the punctuation put all kinds of weird symbols all over-so i apologize for that email ugliness. short recap: love the slicer, not much love for the timebender from me. krispen-as for you electronic woes...wow, i know in my studio when i use my tele w/ buzzy carvin single coils it picks up the hum pretty bad at times. no idea what your solution would be....electrical work is out of my knowledge base, can barely wire my own guitar projects.... i guess my problem is my 2 outlets w/ power strips attached-i'm full up w/ all my gear--i've been thinking about getting one of those pedal power units, to free up some real estate w/ my effects pedals for power. never thought i'd be at that point, but i am. also i'm finding that my recording desk (which is an old desk)-is not working great, i need a longer table, so i may have to just get a 6 foot folding table so it allows me to move more freely when playing....but my studio is a mess, i need to clean & reconfigure.... i've got too much going on in there for the space (probably 8'x16')-my playing area, my guitar storage, my workbench for my guitar building projects, then all my art stuff, and extra paintings all in there....ug....i need a warehouse.....actually....all i've ever wanted since my days of studying art was to have a warehouse (probably seen too many pics of NYC warehouse lofts from the 30s-40s)....i'm not actually a fan of houses w/ small cubicle rooms.... so confining....little to no room for big paintings, i've actually destroyed most of my large paintings....ug, give me a warehouse..... then i could have huge actual cathedral reverb for my loop explorations...hahahahaaa...that's funny....oh well... happy looping... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016367d5858b475e90481a0eebf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i store my cables in a sack. and when i need one, it's a mess to sort o= ut. i need a better system.

i apologize for my weird slicer/timebend= er email-my yahoo acct is all whacky, my 1st version of that email that i s= ent
early on thur, never sent. then the 2nd one i send , and the punctuation pu= t all kinds of weird symbols all over-so i apologize for that
email ugli= ness.
short recap: love the slicer, not much love for the timebender fro= m me.

krispen-as for you electronic woes...wow, i know in my studio when i us= e my tele w/ buzzy carvin single coils it picks
up the hum pretty bad at= times. no idea what your solution would be....electrical work is out of my= knowledge base, can barely wire my own
guitar projects....

i guess my problem is my 2 outlets w/ power stri= ps attached-i'm full up w/ all my gear--i've been thinking about ge= tting one of those
pedal power units, to free up some real estate w/ my = effects pedals for power. never thought i'd be at that point, but i am.=

also i'm finding that my recording desk (which is an old desk)-is n= ot working great, i need a longer table, so i may have to just
get a 6 f= oot folding table so it allows me to move more freely when playing....but m= y studio is a mess, i need to clean & reconfigure....
i've got too much going on in there for the space (probably 8'x16&#= 39;)-my playing area, my guitar storage, my workbench for my guitar buildin= g
projects, then all my art stuff, and extra paintings all in there....u= g....i need a warehouse.....actually....all i've ever wanted since my d= ays of studying art
was to have a warehouse (probably seen too many pics of NYC warehouse lofts= from the 30s-40s)....i'm not actually a fan of houses w/ small cubicle= rooms....
so confining....little to no room for big paintings, i've= actually destroyed most of my large paintings....ug, give me a warehouse..= ...
then i could have huge actual cathedral reverb for my loop explorations...h= ahahahaaa...that's funny....oh well...
happy looping...
s---
<= a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen">www.myspace.com/scotthansen

--0016367d5858b475e90481a0eebf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 21:13:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB0E93BF83; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=31mjJ3Tc6b9l7dRaQ9a+EPoCRr8yZI52+X7X+gK5Uoo=; b=CQLYqWRpFQ2bMn5wHQv+rPUucQatmNr/emel5vEBUAO+O5r3O1QzBQRC9RoG/AWl06 aK4O6P3mIz7G2XWVMEbMiIh26Bl9OZssN01bcwTRyi6NMRktEpLvdi3V212omKHMeQqW 2haIVcFKVYLZrFSbC/wI3krDt0feQQF+i5sBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tdutZcCNWlv3w1MfIUhPN6Ktirqn+uLhPD+0i5ScdJrSRAksPHMR2Ho3Lsu8MaxE9h 5jdMBwE7ZsyyoHeGDz+mhvlZ8rScxvGx04MKoD57JWEGA/4PlZIhmi0mB+m6HSjYDhBF MUvog+EpGyf10ycy+N1Tx2qjleCp5all2aTeM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3C0EDB23-1454-4423-B5A6-A74EC36C7DAC@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:13:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, The first video is now online :) It will take me a few days to upload the rest, I'll keep you posted. Mp3's will follow http://euroloopfest.com/festival/archives/premonition-factory-video -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 21:29:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4B33BF8A; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EAsUjUr6DJI46nxVUSKq5HyXoiwSS041bdzFdnGpLqU=; b=Eqrwa0rluma57hRvCbDBotAjqz28hj6IaykQB1TEnR3jDVC2C2ZdXpDAyPtvUjDlZc t/91w9yW5UyFP2mJI9QVwWVRxZScLxITmyzzqHk8CMtICCqL36c63y0//sHk88GY7T+Z 1FvL6sUJR3ndyh3pYalsFOhEjka6PStv0pRz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xe4V1/QI1+JxMf2oeMyYhpPePVm0f7tQC9EkYk1A2GMqa+F5fD1WtwJAilqKPjRZxu 6cREQz6riUFkxBdVe0xLTNvWK4WbZOoWubLINWNPo7GOsjxo6sZHM1U5NBI6JrxVyKtp i8EKJBI7IysCZ0jc2GzMmj2gr3nKgUbiGvKv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b1003100907p44e605bfkd1a0a1f3a6f37fc1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3ebb9b1003100907p44e605bfkd1a0a1f3a6f37fc1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:29:17 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a56d7d221ee81081 Message-ID: <101191641003121329p25234639hfc5f90a3a8867855@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Slicer examples online.. From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485eba6d643b4a20481a13908 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:29:19 +0000 (UTC) --001485eba6d643b4a20481a13908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey, that's pretty cool - where are the drum sounds coming from? On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Loaf citious wrote: > Sorry I'm at work and didn't have time to read everyone's mail on the > subject. But, I did remember I had some Boss Slicer examples online. > There all mixed into one mp3. Nothing fancy, made this for someone > last time the subject came up and should have shared it then: > > http://andy-garber.com/audio/SlicerSamples_mixdown.mp3 > > The Slicer in this exp is inline w/ my guitar rig which is through the > mixer to the EDP. Also I believe I have the midi out to the slicer > keeping them in time. > > I have thought about putting after the EDP but, don't see how I would > use it much, cause I like to keep a pretty big beat going most of the > time. > > Andy G > > -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --001485eba6d643b4a20481a13908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, that's pretty cool - where are the drum sounds coming from?
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Loaf citious = <loafcitious@= gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry I'm at = work and didn't have time to read everyone's mail on the
subject. But, I did remember I had some Boss Slicer examples online.
There all mixed into one mp3. Nothing fancy, made this for someone
last time the subject came up and should have shared it then:

http://andy-garber.com/audio/SlicerSamples_mixdown.mp3

The Slicer in this exp is inline w/ my guitar rig which is through the
mixer to the EDP. =A0Also I believe I have the midi out to the slicer
keeping them in time.

I have thought about putting after the EDP but, don't see how I would use it much, cause I like to keep a pretty big beat going most of the
time.

Andy G




--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops= , Live & Otw
http:= //www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
--001485eba6d643b4a20481a13908-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 21:40:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79D763BF8B; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=ZUHRTiNChrrhiuUiXwlgGVV7cqNjhhck0tMIPh8kjjFrtwyTSmSu4W3GVnhKYCu88mY88ct9NIQMaqsUpCiDCZB3PftIKBg5L/o93XdUVjpOA1TypLzmxRFI+bPXHTkd/3RfAhzWALlfJkrBgI0wFlg6w9ZQyCSND8LFk9G9tgE= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9CktVo6swBCbpA6mV5XNreeUVOrwMFq.IcIKOzvn X-YMail-OSG: Ng3kfk8VM1m8I5I359WMuEoTgAbRX.F1NCygQIEh__AETh0im4YRAqipox5Ua1G.CpvuH4p3PGX51rr.HoFMJLfnJkB1wqP5unFBUlbheoXz7Xon1FWfynLDCQiZ3e1.z3ZbU2y_ZXfxDcVYvmNIPaCs4gfJt55temCBAFKjUCxaBEJbjigBD19x2DGfBx79dTnom_qipN9HAcUXvFBZmhUuKSk1KPBvxIBOtfJ5GaTfc1cQ7l892T08LDw7yOG0rPc4nSPf2SA_EMRZe1VnDcONXqNIFD_ZyUqVz8XlxJSU8hHomLtV0aevuA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1551988498 Message-ID:<1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:38:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Arrrgggg! I hate cables! I have several large boxes (ex-comp paper type) and another Staples clear sided box. I have yet to find a way to effectively org them other than coil and try to keep likes in the same "layer". Those studio pics always amaze me - the ones missing the cables! ------Original Message------ From: Mark McGlinchey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? Sent: Mar 12, 2010 12:08 PM I have the coiled on a big hook, sometimes they get tangled though which can be a bit of pain in the arse. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:38 PM, wrote: > > How does everyone stores their cables? > > > wear them? > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 21:49:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 464513BF8A; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ln5IEDROC4LxuOJiRfFhhJmvQTNd5b9DsUzR1lC6Vmo=; b=i45zmhxye4yhGARjrDoaUqsluyfTKb3tHhmvrGPZj/aZlBKyDgBpisKkzWvQsu2F5p 6xIIHxA/G+76wcLjTFLPCQwbkHtuaBu9qgkYz1RWDOuWIe8O8mKqxVFbNFQ0l39xzX1N uM8r7K4Cu1efydp7SISEWB4eBmPkAyDzasoFM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DDskxikD3QO2wCJOb4dHeMzds5Lr/YFGChIfrZey2hX+UUkBkgjmgOa3q/IdVhwON8 qp/UMC8Do/ISz1HV4vFkGPgGh7azcPiGM6oG5HmwvLJdg8O2+cVgaBLa54oBjTd+Si1K hdNh23lj9E/htys6x2K7oR91LXxSMJlIVWhFk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e1003121007m4b6ff42elfdac775cbb787e8b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:49:17 -0800 Message-ID: <37f071c01003121349n40014f90mb2c70cef8b964d57@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:49:19 +0000 (UTC) I use velcro strips to keep bundles together by length. I grab the bundle I need (usually no more than four cables if they're long) and take what I need and bundle the rest back together again. It works surprisingly well actually. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 22:02:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D2343BF86; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <28890871.168.1268415543748.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <28890871.168.1268415543748.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:02:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0369_01CAC1F5.0F544650" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2010 22:02:43.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDE392E0:01CAC22F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:02:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0369_01CAC1F5.0F544650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope it works! In the mean time, I'm recording Derek Bailey = style...just my archop with a mic on it (no buzz, interestingly, so the = mag pickups are apparently picking up interference in the air). Wow, it = actaully sounds sort of good in a raw and pure sort of way. I like it. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: William Walker=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Thanks, Bill. We do indeed have the energy saving bulbs here. However, = I turned all the lights off in the house and the buzz persised. Would this do the trick? = http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=3D01&id=3DAC-215A_PRO Kris It might have some effect, though this is not a true isolation = transformer Maybe this would be more promising: http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=3D229 Isolation transformers must have gone down in price?. I found that the = really high wattage ones are expensive, which I don't need. Kris This would be the more likely candidate, let me know if you get it = and how well it works. I'm in the market as well due to the crappy old = wiring in our house. It also occurred to me that it could very well be = caused by wireless interference or perhaps a neighbor operating a ham = radio or heavy machinery like an arc welder or big electric saw. Do you = have any big power lines or microwave towers near by? When I was recording at the Technical Institute Studio in Istanbul = with Erdem, They had an isolation transformer the size of an industrial = refrigerator, and we still had some radio interference. Is it possible = you have right wing extremists operating a pirate radio station near by? = hey it doesn't hurt to ask:-) Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0369_01CAC1F5.0F544650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hope it works!  In the mean = time, I'm=20 recording Derek Bailey style...just my archop with a mic on it (no buzz, = interestingly, so the mag pickups are apparently picking up interference = in the=20 air).  Wow, it actaully sounds sort of good in a raw and pure sort = of=20 way.  I like it.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 William=20 Walker
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 = 10:34=20 AM
Subject: Re: Constant buzzing - = can it be=20 killed!

Thanks, = Bill. We do=20 indeed have the energy saving bulbs here. However, I turned all the = lights off=20 in the house and the buzz persised.

Would this do the=20 trick? http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=3D01&id=3D= AC-215A_PRO

Kris

 It might have some effect, though  this is not a true=20 isolation transformer


Maybe this = would be more=20 promising:

= http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID= =3D229

Isolation = transformers must have=20 gone down in price?. I found that the really high wattage ones are = expensive,=20 which I don't need.

Kris

 This would = be the more=20 likely candidate, let me know if you get it and how well it works. I'm = in the=20 market as well due to the crappy old wiring in our house. It also = occurred to=20 me that it could very well be caused by wireless interference or = perhaps a=20 neighbor operating a ham radio or heavy machinery like an arc welder = or=20  big electric saw. Do you have any big power lines or microwave = towers=20 near by?
 When I was = recording at=20 the Technical Institute Studio in Istanbul with Erdem, They had an = isolation=20 transformer the size of an industrial refrigerator, and we still had = some=20 radio interference. Is it possible you have right wing extremists = operating a=20 pirate radio station near by?  hey it doesn't hurt to = ask:-)
Bill
------=_NextPart_000_0369_01CAC1F5.0F544650-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 12 22:03:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42ADA3BF9D; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2649EBF9-0F9D-4889-AEF1-1AF3D5611654@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:03:31 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:03:37 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:38 PM, paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com wrote: > Arrrgggg! I hate cables! They are an unavoidable and "necessary evil". :-) (Try making electricity based music WITHOUT them. M'whaaa hahaha haaaa! :-)) > > I have several large boxes (ex-comp paper type) and another Staples > clear sided box. I have yet to find a way to effectively org them > other than coil and try to keep likes in the same "layer". For cables that are either spare cables or are cables that are not to be used for awhile, I merely store them in segregated / appropriately labeled plastic milk crates and those are "discreetly" stored on the lowest shelf of a large set of shelves against a wall in the studio. (these crates would work in just about any room or environment). The cables are also wound up and bound with twist-ties that I have collected for free. This makes locating the proper cables a lot easier and avoids that dreaded entanglement frustration. For the other cables that might get a little quicker use (other than those that are currently hooked and ready to go), I just found for free, an ex-incense package display unit (no kidding, it still has the name of the incense company too on it) that is just a wooden "plate" with numerous hard wire "arms" sticking out and it was ready made perfect for my purposes. Plus, being attached to the wall, it takes up *no* space at all. (at least not of the floor where it *really counts* in my *small* studio area. This type of thing could easily be custom-built as well. But, I am pleased that I found something for free and that also has a "groooovey" incense company logo on it. Trippy! Peace out! Cheers- Rev. Fever Portland,OR. 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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2649EBF9-0F9D-4889-AEF1-1AF3D5611654@ubergadget.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-577139726-1268441789=:77263" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:56:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-577139726-1268441789=:77263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (They are an unavoidable and "necessary evil". :-)=A0 (Try making electrici= ty based=A0 music WITHOUT them. M'whaaa hahaha haaaa! :-))) And If you don't like traffic jams, set your car on fire! Wee-hee-mucka-fer= guson! :) --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Revfever wrote: From: Revfever Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 5:03 PM On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:38 PM, paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com wrote: > Arrrgggg! I hate cables! They are an unavoidable and "necessary evil". :-)=A0 (Try making electricit= y based=A0 music WITHOUT them. M'whaaa hahaha haaaa! :-)) >=20 > I have several large boxes (ex-comp paper type) and another Staples clear= sided box. I have yet to find a way to effectively org them other than coi= l and try to keep likes in the same "layer". For cables that are either spare cables or are cables that are not to be us= ed for awhile, I merely store them in segregated / appropriately labeled pl= astic milk crates and those are "discreetly" stored on the lowest shelf of = a large set of shelves against a wall in the studio. (these crates would wo= rk in just about any room or environment). The cables are also wound up and= bound with twist-ties that I have collected for free. This makes locating = the proper cables a lot easier and avoids that dreaded entanglement frustra= tion. For the other cables that might get a little quicker use (other than those = that are currently hooked and ready to go), I just found for free, an ex-in= cense package display unit (no kidding, it still has the name of the incense company too on it) that i= s just a wooden "plate" with numerous hard wire "arms" sticking out and it = was ready made perfect for my purposes. Plus, being attached to the wall, i= t takes up *no* space at all. (at least not of the floor where it *really c= ounts* in my *small* studio area.=A0 This type of thing could easily be cus= tom-built as well.=A0 But, I am pleased that I found something for free and= that also has a "groooovey" incense company logo on it. Trippy!=A0 Peace o= ut! Cheers- Rev. Fever Portland,OR. The Angry Red Planet =0A=0A=0A --0-577139726-1268441789=:77263 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(They are an unavoidable and "necessary evil"= . :-)  (Try making electricity based  music WITHOUT them. M'whaaa= hahaha haaaa! :-)))

And If you don't like traffic jams, set your ca= r on fire! Wee-hee-mucka-ferguson! :)

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Revfev= er <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:

From: Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>
Subject: Re: = how do you store your cables?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comDate: Friday, March 12, 2010, 5:03 PM

On M= ar 12, 2010, at 1:38 PM, paulrichard_rocks@yah= oo.com wrote:

> Arrrgggg! I hate cables!

They are an u= navoidable and "necessary evil". :-)  (Try making electricity based  music WITH= OUT them. M'whaaa hahaha haaaa! :-))

>
> I have several la= rge boxes (ex-comp paper type) and another Staples clear sided box. I have = yet to find a way to effectively org them other than coil and try to keep l= ikes in the same "layer".

For cables that are either spare cables or= are cables that are not to be used for awhile, I merely store them in segr= egated / appropriately labeled plastic milk crates and those are "discreetl= y" stored on the lowest shelf of a large set of shelves against a wall in t= he studio. (these crates would work in just about any room or environment).= The cables are also wound up and bound with twist-ties that I have collect= ed for free. This makes locating the proper cables a lot easier and avoids = that dreaded entanglement frustration.

For the other cables that mig= ht get a little quicker use (other than those that are currently hooked and ready to go), I just found for free, an ex-incense package disp= lay unit
(no kidding, it still has the name of the incense company too o= n it) that is just a wooden "plate" with numerous hard wire "arms" sticking= out and it was ready made perfect for my purposes. Plus, being attached to= the wall, it takes up *no* space at all. (at least not of the floor where = it *really counts* in my *small* studio area.  This type of thing coul= d easily be custom-built as well.  But, I am pleased that I found some= thing for free and that also has a "groooovey" incense company logo on it. = Trippy!  Peace out!

Cheers-
Rev. Fever
Portland,OR.
Th= e Angry Red Planet



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--00151747671abc38c30481a55f7c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 05:03:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21C613BF9B; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=1rgsmf5hk2RHFdhbbcbp2HJt+RGXaOJHJjdwJzH5ZWk=; b=hVocMJfLv+cxQSXEvODh4mmv4lUYH9SN8lpmMoSoQtxmP2t2lVzer3h1nICN6pvaMf tyBfE/heU17O/TIOlJKsN1BJ9/T7Tzbt5/DpWHPEZ2em+03kbiA3FSiAe3IdNs1WqezZ 58txC3PWUOCWE+mNxZqJdnD20q4jFa5He0+74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=wFKcvDrfLBVf/XfegTD0wlMID/prwuufyrN1ROrAPvBWbGRdn+d5JJOy63roDp3tUC fm6MK/YM9GIcec7hWwuBBi52Bpv3S4eWR270hVPWKe4lNmKCJzuFnKd3E/Rz7We4VO+7 a984MX5lCGnhOydI2ZKnJBW4JyF4wXe038bRQ= Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Matthias Grob X-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:03:02 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:03:38 +0000 (UTC) the most important is to roll them without twisting! so they have to be rolled and unrolled the same way shorter cables I keep doubling until I can make a big knot longer cables I roll as if my hands where a wheel other techniques are creating a roll in form of an 8 to avoid twisting I spent my live with cables, would be worthwhile doing a little video :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 05:45:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEB313BF9E; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.57.4] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:45:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_043F_01CAC235.ACF43060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2010 05:45:14.0553 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A983290:01CAC270] Resent-Message-ID: <4L-cRC.A.07C.uZymLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:45:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_043F_01CAC235.ACF43060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm looking for a decent recording/performance mic in the range of $400, = for my archtop guitar. I''ve found that I totally love the sound of = this instrument miced at about 6" away from where the neck meets the = guitar...very Derek Bailyesque. :) I'm just using a cheap SM57 now = and need a condensor mic with a wider range and fidelity. Any = suggestions? The reviews of the Sure SM81 look good for acoustic. I have used the = Rode NT1s in the past too with good results. Kris p.s. I just recorded a sample recording of a chord-solo interpretation = of "Alice in Wonderland". =20 www.krispenhartung.com ------=_NextPart_000_043F_01CAC235.ACF43060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm looking for a decent = recording/performance mic=20 in the range of $400, for my archtop guitar.  I''ve found that I = totally=20 love the sound of this instrument miced at about 6" away from where the = neck=20 meets the guitar...very Derek Bailyesque. :)    =  I'm=20 just using a cheap SM57 now and need a condensor mic with a wider range = and=20 fidelity. Any suggestions?
 
The reviews of the Sure SM81 look good = for=20 acoustic.  I have used the Rode NT1s in the past too with good=20 results.
 
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References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Matthias Grob wrote: > > shorter cables I keep doubling until I can make a big knot > :-) that's what I do with the *longer* cables. My storage solution is sturdy plastic boxes which can stack. One for audio, one for mains. and a Small box for patch cables. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 09:05:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 532D93BF9D; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268471104; bh=HLR0V9GJXjpX+bIOQsdVdILUNMp3pc2K//wBaEs7wHs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aS9RguqWs40bBoNXErU/8/hAwl1kbKpkQF0BpNJgVWFY85M20jXr6d6PWBE2cV3GZH10/D49p5aaWCnZyNv33b2ZHFcZGLXqBl7nFVuiM/ZLDL5SvbV38mRDR1gYOES/6XwHLBksH89Nk6+lTWqknY7ZcRkqoZZ9JPgYf6PWA2E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HTjuSkJ9vAC0Y0Xax9BByjvQnn4CCHmwzmB0zAZMuDcv5u7vCzZo42PJ8uVxaJwQusPkQvxTqO3pFnbsOH1e4e0lzUjlwT14IAlOKEQ9nMhPwUP+tf651lEXW/jYywRGZo9YzbGGnH4/6+mjXxPh/aLQW6qXKGCEF9pMeWgKoto=; Message-ID: <506734.27535.qm@web29003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: oVeY4uoVM1mv5qpEJ_RLl7dE8DN286.DoRXYIYEZxca.ejR wEf08U.jSj_xHkv3ghwE0Glz6518S.pHGB0kmKxayV70W6DQdKzqPysuaVtI 45K6V91pYrNd6bUPOTo3FUq6TdKU6z4DkaJ.k4bXlEvwiaZ32rZkWF.RMY4T Nrm_GKcWwbpxNpctdgWUnx1LI0oWC9rKj1LkFXmra36c8FffOYPyYHQf8VpA .UTDhg.dU_mgnOGLFCse1CP6k8Gb7 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:05:04 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak your sound this time was awesome huge,you were on of my favorites!=0A= cheers=0ALuis=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Sjaak Overgaau= w schrieb am Fr, 12.3.2010:=0A=0A> Von: Sjaak Overgaau= w =0A> Betreff: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010= =0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Freitag, 12. 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From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: <4B9B4023.5060705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:57:32 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> <4B9B4023.5060705@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1NqP2D-00066V-Bz X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.132, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_50 0.00, TVD_RCVD_IP 1.93) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Hoi! I did a combination of live programming and live looping on my last = "Reyn vs ..." concert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNCek4BTLGkY I must say I'm very happy with my switch from EDP to Ableton. Together = with my Gordius pedal it gives me so much more freedom and I can combine = now all the features from Ableton right on the spot and in separate = sessions. If you open the session everything is ready to go. You can have all your = sounds ready and features ready and triggered with MIDI maps and have it = ready just in that song. No more hassle, double click and ready. And = everything is in sync (after playing your first loop), like your delays = and your programming, or if you want to add samples with a BPM later on. = (I'm gonna try that on my next concert.) And it's much more stable then the EPD. I must admit there are still = issues with Ableton like latency. Not sure whether it is my Mackie Onyx = Mixer, which I use as my soundcard, or if it's Ableton or even the = amount of loopers I use in one session (8). But besides that it's = heaven. Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.vs.reyn.net= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 11:28:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C5B53BFA2; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0JD+YQu89qAbhzuBt6gO0jb4MVvhEL0oPLpXSaZSVCc=; b=GjXxSoVumnhFqsfVL+C9YksaMTpFbnIWV63vTpWiSMpww5CVxijUghUNBdFmSS04n5 pYGULd0EmIWfxSt15HZ8xvvPZI03NysHxBDjEQhqvZUhYqlGqbrcScu7hVy6hVJCuPag QMdxkAwpHkzjVbXyRR8KaQ7aRZjEaNbw0KMgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RiUmxSFonFDuy3SIt9chZ82vzCxGjJnqkxLd1WQEJ96D/p2TBSIY/Um4PQ5gCpPb+x N1WBSuvEKb2BXwNmez3diN5ISJc7vpT7b2U3L/J1rNH56K0muCBZ9SKO9UP2ClhcTc3c CQ1Em+k0RvN3lMMIRLZxoQRcesFa+xf3xpPvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> <4B9B4023.5060705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:28:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton Looping/Programming live on stage.. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163641896131c8270481acf192 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:28:09 +0000 (UTC) --00163641896131c8270481acf192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 WOW! These are so high quality and the stuff you play always top notch! THANK YOU! -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen 2010/3/13 Reyn Ouwehand > Hoi! > > I did a combination of live programming and live looping on my last "Reyn > vs ..." concert: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCek4BTLGkY > > I must say I'm very happy with my switch from EDP to Ableton. Together with > my Gordius pedal it gives me so much more freedom and I can combine now all > the features from Ableton right on the spot and in separate sessions. > > If you open the session everything is ready to go. You can have all your > sounds ready and features ready and triggered with MIDI maps and have it > ready just in that song. No more hassle, double click and ready. And > everything is in sync (after playing your first loop), like your delays and > your programming, or if you want to add samples with a BPM later on. (I'm > gonna try that on my next concert.) > > And it's much more stable then the EPD. I must admit there are still issues > with Ableton like latency. Not sure whether it is my Mackie Onyx Mixer, > which I use as my soundcard, or if it's Ableton or even the amount of > loopers I use in one session (8). But besides that it's heaven. > > Cheers, > > Reyn > > www.reyn.vs.reyn.net > --00163641896131c8270481acf192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW!

These are so high quality and the stuff you play always top not= ch!

THANK YOU!


--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
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2010/3/13 Re= yn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net>
Hoi!

I did a combination of live programming and live looping on my last "R= eyn vs ..." concert:

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNCek4BTLGkY

I must say I'm very happy with my switch from EDP to Ableton. Together = with my Gordius pedal it gives me so much more freedom and I can combine no= w all the features from Ableton right on the spot and in separate sessions.=

If you open the session everything is ready to go. You can have all your so= unds ready and features ready and triggered with MIDI maps and have it read= y just in that song. No more hassle, double click and ready. And everything= is in sync (after playing your first loop), like your delays and your prog= ramming, or if you want to add samples with a BPM later on. (I'm gonna = try that on my next concert.)

And it's much more stable then the EPD. I must admit there are still is= sues with Ableton like latency. Not sure whether it is my Mackie Onyx Mixer= , which I use as my soundcard, or if it's Ableton or even the amount of= loopers I use in one session (8). But besides that it's heaven.

Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.vs.reyn.= net





--00163641896131c8270481acf192-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 12:24:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 041383BF9F; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CnxJ8yIHcbyRDXT7+brfVzfhZ1IMZ5O8fZpTdKU2mEs=; b=HcR4zWQ1DEXaJBhhUuRErepH4a9k4ILal6KSmN8veVlneMUesDAtSpJ02xGI/48Cqw T7B2hUWvAE4os070XFhCmIsjo+c5fv9k6HKxPr76RoPNj4AGRfPrRtdGiNOhroxxKaNz L7GtJo4b7yG0/4UNBsvf5pog44WYJEfnrRjP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NQCA1AgL6YJKZb9Tda0u9MnhH1MX58elZaioT3/VnrefWwPOnvDmL2qrMLG/Zgu6vv utt0ijp7zXr1sx1VPQZhT5vFsfy5pi7SulBJ9Wg22K8YeFmN+XKCSv+RCmp2Kxa9ZcKP 1DrE58l+V5slH7pqAjPvKwJ8D8hOPlaWWASV4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> <4B9B4023.5060705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:24:00 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003130424k5a98ad9ai8804e9cc68661139@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton Looping/Programming live on stage.. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:24:01 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > I must admit there are still issues with Ableton like latency. Plugin latency compensation does not work when Ableton is set to tempo slave sync mode and not either with realt-time audio input (only with recorded stuff). If that's the latency you meant. If you meant AD/DA related latency there is no workaround except for keeping it down by using a small buffer and no plugins that add latency. That was a cool song! Could go as clubby as ever from that point. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 12:32:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DEF33BFA9; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: Ableton Looping/Programming live on stage.. From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003130424k5a98ad9ai8804e9cc68661139@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:32:21 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6B7607D1-E5D6-4D42-943E-2CF5D68764FC@reyn.net> References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> <4B9B4023.5060705@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003130424k5a98ad9ai8804e9cc68661139@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1NqQVy-0004kb-5D X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.132, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_50 0.00, TVD_RCVD_IP 1.93) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:32:29 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Reyn Ouwehand > wrote: >> I must admit there are still issues with Ableton like latency. >=20 > Plugin latency compensation does not work when Ableton is set to tempo > slave sync mode and not either with realt-time audio input (only with > recorded stuff). If that's the latency you meant. If you meant AD/DA > related latency there is no workaround except for keeping it down by > using a small buffer and no plugins that add latency. Hey Per, thanks! That both makes sense since it's live. Could be interesting to find out = what the delay of Looper is inside Ableton Live. But it wouldn't make = sense to make a looper if it has lots of latency. It's not just that it = doesn't feel 'direct'.. Everything you add later really shifts around. I = already have the buffer size as small as possible. Cheers, Reyn ___________ www.reyn.net www.reyn.vs.reyn.net twitter/facebook/youtube: ReynOuwehand Management: www.lalalamanagement.nl= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 12:32:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 868493BFB2; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=N3dmA5480HFal0qSqFNZEqqzfH9WI8jwy/pEVN3DeLs=; b=Yud6+m2cln7cPD5LmgO4iN+Ia76tys82RyrKS9psGr/p/5ENBLsKxK453jZR2ISaac fMD75FNxST0AFDmXzwcOBB662UEv87Q0KDQksVVHJ+TXnkDLG9JWZLMSoc/QEbd8QF05 WSeJMgohIuJrZ+g3Hb9Ez6o/W1RmCnMD1B3O0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jjhWqC0yDc0A7d/gXY0q//sRMisDFKkQzphKWQRM5gOw5vgIljAInHqMiLXeS2p1MN 4GElzS0ag53lxNLORerZU9oH7sECDnIBLzeqqtTQEZSopp8gf/dnAgo0YPxqMHtzUKSa eW7w28+sMT1eY4an+RK2+xVxY0Smvj8KO1Lww= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:32:40 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003130432j3404e41do631dbf31629bd2ed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:32:41 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > I spent my live with cables, would be worthwhile doing a little video :-) "My Life With Cables".... Man, you're gonna get famous! Better plot than Snakes On A Plane. Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 12:41:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 950243BFB3; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y6qdTqFoZVkJEYcZaLhVNf78UE2XCd1ov3wSLmM0QCk=; b=osW1Y3xJu8gxIoBcs3Uq88nBxL4olPTksT8L6alQBOJ5MmyvYhmq2n1ivKpEbAVJVi GoSPlkkCO/+7fDePYAlEeWvkrvXDRzY7XKbMk29LcvvqhIjGQuZVVKg7axjn6vZHiWqn xXRg8HWeklt5O6+lkzLWn6E0CgUchakAxG4kA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lR8uwNBFglKqn68ADXxb/pWDFaHmkoggTOJkm5+YMm8j8xJUY1s0Crh8P51LjaFIJC NukZ6emkwm/R8RiT8WndX21nsx+kymGP5NIyG6ZV1Qyddj7D1fwFeNOiGsgLh25dik5h h13b2kQUWLE6NgviaYCgkGo3Rhu03KSeO7APg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6B7607D1-E5D6-4D42-943E-2CF5D68764FC@reyn.net> References: <1551988498-1268430054-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1918648077-@bda571.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <074DE541-CC9E-4967-8204-7938289F598D@gmail.com> <4B9B4023.5060705@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003130424k5a98ad9ai8804e9cc68661139@mail.gmail.com> <6B7607D1-E5D6-4D42-943E-2CF5D68764FC@reyn.net> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:41:56 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003130441h343098a8x66bbefddbc866656@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton Looping/Programming live on stage.. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:41:57 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > Could be interesting to find out what the delay of Looper is inside Ableton Live. But it wouldn't make sense to make a looper if it has lots of latency. It's not just that it doesn't feel 'direct'.. Everything you add later really shifts around. I tried Mobius and adjusted its latency compensation so stuff I play get into the loop where I played it, related to older layers in the loop. But that's only rock solid within Mobius' tracks, if Live is playing catch-up by MIDI Clock slave syncing you will still get a little mezzy timing related live clips and programmed stuff in Live. I also tried Live's Looper and liked the way it can be used to set a tempo for Live - without having to MIDI Clock sync Live, that's the big point. But I didn't like the fidelity or the feel of the Looper plugin. So I kind of repelled back at Mobius again ;-)) It took over after my EDP/Repeater about five years ago. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 13:36:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4AC53BFBB; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 671 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:36:54 UTC Message-ID: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: guitar setups Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:25:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01CAC2C1.70706050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:36:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CAC2C1.70706050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi to all, these days i have been producing mostly pop and rock bands, acts. i have = the marshall jmp 2000 head. i would like to buy the new vox nighttrain = head. would like to record with it using a speaker simulator like the = palmer speaker simulator. any used it? what are your opinions? http://www.palmergear.com/pdi03.shtml also i would like to buy a new electric bass guitar to use within the = genres of soul, r and b, pop, rock, dance, electronica... what would you = recommend for that? fender, musicman? thanks a lot as always and best regards from istanbul. erdem h. = = ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CAC2C1.70706050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi to all,
 
these days i have been producing mostly = pop and=20 rock bands, acts. i have the marshall jmp 2000 head. i would like to buy = the new=20 vox nighttrain head. would like to record with it using a speaker = simulator like=20 the palmer speaker simulator. any used it? what are your = opinions?
 
http://www.palmergear.com/= pdi03.shtml
 
also i would like to buy a new electric = bass guitar=20 to use within the genres of soul, r and b, pop, rock, dance,=20 electronica... what would you recommend for that? fender,=20 musicman?
 
thanks a lot as always and best regards = from=20 istanbul.
 
erdem h.
= = ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CAC2C1.70706050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 13:51:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E01883BFB6; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B9B9852.5040703@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:51:14 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #675 for March 11, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:51:22 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100311.html X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1366D3BFB5; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sMI+00h/usxUmdRIZ7jNTciGThtdfeGmrQrCz3UaXBY=; b=GcRKScgqPgMSRXnLvOEuy4a5T75yQLCmguK6uos+OOOBS1OUCpn9SPQumMC7gmCd56 kGL2lXqkXJCk2eswufsPrxpV5xNaLJyLcG2oq8PAPT0SSNubQq5K21YAilQ/+NAUX+vp Mgx0y8Ezi0cc1JGro8fr7S6RjEFCkAWbuCvxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HZfLuYphXdxhFIgMXvW6wqbz79QPLtsRMzL+kTcB+hfKT3WpQKfDbjm1NDqrjDh1nu 1z0oPPnruujixGuOApr1YEAdP5EnV65LvqTGE/39hUP/NDb61NTjAEPuhM3WEhKcQRkJ W9lo0LEwgb1LAh272QiH8IvXsEWb9ZfUvjk+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <506734.27535.qm@web29003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <506734.27535.qm@web29003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:40:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <8x0HbC.A.C8G.DP6mLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, Goto http://livelooping.be/ for the video of "Signals under Tests". Enjoy :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 14:51:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01A9A3BFB7; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 362820075/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.154.15/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.154.15 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4BAF81m0tPTpoP/2dsb2JhbAAHkmzBOIR7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,632,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="362820075" Message-ID: <4B9BA659.2090206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:51:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: guitar setups OT References: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> In-Reply-To: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_4qTnD.A.4KH.WZ6mLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > > also i would like to buy a new electric bass guitar to use within the > genres of soul, r and b, pop, rock, Fender Precision >dance, electronica... use a synth, afaik it has to me the *right* synth for the sub genre.... andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 15:45:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50F123BFAA; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <119E20BD-3F43-485C-9A98-BC3456B4466B@wfubmc.edu> From: "Ace Ovil" To: thread-topic: guitar setups OT thread-index: AcrCxCRO/wl3uwLpTh6324xC6ySyag== In-Reply-To: <4B9BA659.2090206@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Subject: Re: guitar setups OT Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:44:51 -0500 References: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> <4B9BA659.2090206@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:36 +0000 (UTC) I say fender jazz. It's the only bass ever made as far as I'm concerned. :) Ace Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:51 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > >> also i would like to buy a new electric bass guitar to use within >> the genres of soul, r and b, pop, rock, > > Fender Precision > >> dance, electronica... > > use a synth, afaik it has to me the *right* synth > for the sub genre.... > > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 16:56:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1D2A3BFB7; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:56:11 UTC X-Authenticated: #13417443 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/jTL1sjL/jxP8gORJDQ9TNukWzFfbFzzjHPjJI3s 6QbKsZz+fhaHCv Message-ID: <4B9BC215.90103@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:49:25 +0100 From: Johannes Korn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.66000000000000003 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi Fabio, that's beautiful! Thank for sharing that. All the best, Johannes Fabio_A schrieb: > My preferred one ! Thanks for pointing to the new version ! > > Here is a clip with intensive use of this plugin, I've just posted in > the past: > http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Is_it_rain.mp3 > > > fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > 2010/3/11 Art Simon > > > For me, it's glitch: > http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ > (BTW, this discussion got me back to the website to see there is a > new update, the first in 4 years! Cool!) > > > -- Johannes Korn - j.korn@gmx.de http://www.myspace.com/nashorn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 17:00:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A54873BFA5; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 817942.48765.bm@omp117.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268499647; bh=mO4AFilnN33IVI3yGfz79TtGdhSM0VwfCdKc+Wt/p54=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SCDIh/oKiz5VhHkvfa7LglOIiZy620LR+XvUA07tkB0BXddDTakdjWiG2Bj1uhJIoZGrttIsrpDf9GGN1e7efHXx2vAzkA3rcrkFrVL4i/4i7FAmXah9TCFAySxlX5bqr82BfFO2ROHPID7GJNru8K0glHxReY+o/bQL7jUGITk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xiooTod5weRWOmpJtaMMfYauYqKsid4sJCbSLtdL1xuCO1K02WsYc+DJUWk4jWdkm8frHPADx3dYnoss9ZkWoqvdyAv9zYm7U6uYJCUkIZrsg/TPCk5DaCpwqFOIQqTDAqYgaEF6cvMrReQdWcVB73sz+wEtPLo6ZIYSyhA2IZQ=; Message-ID: <693584.9472.qm@web65614.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: F7zudBsVM1n42R6_cuSSZwy9HNZJvNbNY3J7l2JH09Oe7W1Pp1TYmhhAP.zrmTW1Dmlo7UHOZ3L_AmX5VnSlg4LidNGrfwKRl_.o9MuLH3Yt.oC0Sf1KOum_ie0_f8HCPf3EuNoVqugJKBOeaCeUywlv0wM9jZ_JcJZOXimEe3aYFLdD5tGZZS_ZTBvpvgid6aM65k7n.awEH_XbEXnO54sutZRsWvo.88UfjTD2tQj72VQyiRrnKX1ammDODhjaZOzrdMAqatcO0k2NSMv2dr5PdcJ7vrByVryP54FIn86yceq_DcOsNFD.VaIcjXIqCo3L2QYcAxBQEAwp3pMdzW4FcdskDbVrmpxgphlfU30- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:00:47 -0800 (PST) From: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: guitar setups To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2053911775-1268499647=:9472" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:00:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-2053911775-1268499647=:9472 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Never used a speaker simulator:) have a Vox Night Train, sounds great!=0AAn= tony Hequet=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Mar 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, "Erd= em Helvacioglu" wrote:=0A=0Ahi to all,=0A =0Athese days = i have been producing mostly pop and rock bands, acts. i have the marshall = jmp 2000 head. i would like to buy the new vox nighttrain head. would like = to record with it using a speaker simulator like the palmer speaker simulat= or. any used it? what are your opinions?=0A =0Ahttp://www.palmergear.com/pd= i03.shtml=0A =0Aalso i would like to buy a new electric bass guitar to use = within the genres of soul, r and b, pop, rock, dance, electronica... what w= ould you recommend for that? fender, musicman?=0A =0Athanks a lot as always= and best regards from istanbul.=0A =0Aerdem h.=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-2053911775-1268499647=:9472 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Never used a speaker simulator:) have = a Vox Night Train, sounds great!
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=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-2053911775-1268499647=:9472-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 17:15:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFEFF3BFC0; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=v3wrdSB656IKaelvuuZBhDE/nKiOPL6EfBHkvKLVbh2ZklsepZneewYBHf3B/ENTCtEPsCqNxVrYaygM9dqYm8nJj1AC9DS40E1kijkEeo1zvin+p2oZVzrn1aEXdiKuMMO9q2NoakxubsUQgXfOASXVwqMk0yAKb/mh2cDFU+8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1268500536; bh=9if7dgcdoluqLwFuZKrRJaO4KxUs68rwSwtUV5QEm28=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=mvij7mb4N1nppL7CfdDRd4mebfLfbG3vLhG1z1WXsvutBfGLfkbAONJkE0yy7bPOyx42rJn/R7yII6D6zgfrK24OrH1qLAoE0f80YKCqEZs7I9WGqcNGRQj535P2p6V3uqy1BC390E9VLKQdh/WUK8FRtUz0UFrVzV0SAzhyGIg= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: N_QCNzIVM1m_UyoJVi2JdL8B6elZcK7It.an_5QByZkdd3K5bKayW8u9kOh3tghYZftzK_F007segkNO7ZD9rha.OBRCcExYM2TnMU_9P47jLGv2RyFQ_Nn0eyg1Go8hJ_xBkpLImkRaMgP8e1w1UKXqn4aYoGRDo34whdHHi_5S7F.bMXG63_MVUYaHm7JUY7YzNCthvCngnynKtjM2Uz1SmzsjeM4JGX7JQaoUq83VEoHY60rGItnDHugb1ac0WkugY5DCIvU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <17BD23C6-FDB8-444D-BF85-069606F5CEC1@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-283042279 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Hey guys Rainer is live now Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:15:34 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:15:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-283042279 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed http://bit.ly/IFznL Cool Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-6-283042279 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII http://bit.ly/IFznL 

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--Apple-Mail-6-283042279-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 17:23:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D94C13BFBB; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <18410.72.51.1268501017.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> References: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:23:37 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: guitar setups From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <8uf9EC.A.OiC.Yo8mLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Another vote for the Fender Jazz bass. Even though I love a Precision, I think the jazz is more versatile tone wise and the neck is little easier to play. You can hear my jazz bass here, but it's just one of the many tones you can get from it. http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p=33 Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Sat, March 13, 2010 9:25 am, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi to all, > > these days i have been producing mostly pop and rock bands, acts. i have > the marshall jmp 2000 head. i would like to buy the new vox nighttrain > head. would like to record with it using a speaker simulator like the > palmer speaker simulator. any used it? what are your opinions? > > http://www.palmergear.com/pdi03.shtml > > also i would like to buy a new electric bass guitar to use within the > genres of soul, r and b, pop, rock, dance, electronica... what would you > recommend for that? fender, musicman? > > thanks a lot as always and best regards from istanbul. > > erdem h. > > > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 19:01:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2B683BFC3; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 362949834/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.246.105/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.246.105 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAPZvm0tPTvZp/2dsb2JhbAAH1RqEewQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,633,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="362949834" Message-ID: <4B9BE0F5.1060706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:01:09 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: guitar setups OT References: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> <18410.72.51.1268501017.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <18410.72.51.1268501017.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:01:05 +0000 (UTC) André Donawa wrote: > Another vote for the Fender Jazz bass. yeah, but Erdem asked for a bass to use in a rather specific circumstance. the Precision, with it's overall deeper tone is going to be better for a guitarist to emulate a bass player. (and if the wider neck means less notes, that's a plus) The option of the bridge p/u of the Jazz is just going to increase the chance of a bass sound that gets lost beneath the other instruments in those genres (e.g. guitars). Well that's my reasoning anyway. For my own playing pleasure, I voted for the Fender Jazz many years ago. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 20:50:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF253BFC5; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eNfz57E1THOxvqcrwUB6tH2jKkHhA9W8g9GwLchSxBU=; b=uY0XuUU47KwFLKbi2TjjOBPb4y3V6DC+QBNH2venoiNgCqlxcpRMviazWkgHh0bCuw tyQxW0g0G2ZAJXpmCnuF77QZg9Eg7jDpulkIE4ajGiKhDjiTtofLT8EwVQWZZsdCLt7D QkwUaUi0UIWtv85X/S9+Kzxf1iFIyo6XXUeVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TXnrwSDAPyMrKyA1/vacSDCp/OYtC53wnTfdN4wwxX4ZmdMs1uruUmn10fz/r4hy80 KNN1wSBE/9BOYhWAFLpcds+sM3x7C2QNMyr/MaDXEIDWS8fC7kf6zLWyUE4z1Tov3YRC NvUmO8oUjmkSmySF4HTlb6Qj8WX+lfd4exWVQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <506734.27535.qm@web29003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:49:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Live Looping festival 2010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I just uploaded the video's of - Dirk Serries Microphonics XI - N to http://livelooping.be/ Enjoy :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 21:00:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 204323BFC3; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B9BFCAD.2020309@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:59:25 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List , Howard Moscovitz Subject: Chez Mosc - Today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Greetings EM Fans, This is to remind you that the weekly webcast called Chez Mosc will take to the air again today. Each Saturday at 6:00 pm EST (GMT-5), Twyndyllyngs (Howard Moscovitz and I) will stream a live, improvised concert from Howard's living room. (Hence the title of the broadcast.) I hope that you'll "tune in" despite the irreparable brain damage it may cause you. ;-) Point your favorite browser to http://radio.electro-music.com and click on the Tune In link. Or you may stuff http://radio.electro-music.com/listen.m3u into your favorite music player. The radio page also has links to a chat room, the electro-music forum, and more. The radio schedule is listed and has links to each individual program. May peace and contentment be yours. Cheers, Bill Fox P.S. If you are an electronic musician living in or near the Lehigh Valley or plan to be passing through the area, please let me or Howard know if you'd care to join us for a broadcast. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 21:00:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D66FE3BFBC; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B9BFCE5.9070308@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:00:21 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cityskies Yahoogroups Mailing List , Different Skies , Drone Deep Chill Yahoogroups Mailing List , Electronicspace Yahoogroups Mailing List , Synth Sites Yahoogroups Mailing List , Loopers Delight Mailing List , Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited , Howard Moscovitz Subject: Chez Mosc - Today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Greetings EM Fans, This is to remind you that the weekly webcast called Chez Mosc will take to the air again today. Each Saturday at 6:00 pm EST (GMT-5), Twyndyllyngs (Howard Moscovitz and I) will stream a live, improvised concert from Howard's living room. (Hence the title of the broadcast.) I hope that you'll "tune in" despite the irreparable brain damage it may cause you. ;-) Point your favorite browser to http://radio.electro-music.com and click on the Tune In link. Or you may stuff http://radio.electro-music.com/listen.m3u into your favorite music player. The radio page also has links to a chat room, the electro-music forum, and more. The radio schedule is listed and has links to each individual program. May peace and contentment be yours. Cheers, Bill Fox P.S. If you are an electronic musician living in or near the Lehigh Valley or plan to be passing through the area, please let me or Howard know if you'd care to join us for a broadcast. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 21:27:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A07A3BFCB; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-298167293 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:27:39 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:27:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-298167293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The equivalent of boxer shorts for cables, as apposed to briefs....... http://www.raxxess.com/products/accessories/CBLD.html let your boys hang free....:-) my apologies to the girls..... Bill --Apple-Mail-1-298167293 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The equivalent of boxer shorts for cables, as apposed to briefs.......
let your boys hang free....:-) my apologies to the girls.....
Bill
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DIRECTOR OF INTERNATIONAL REMITTANCE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 22:06:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E8E53BFCD; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Dpg0v5ysMKtDBqi7qtSyj8Igxh9gRz92PudL/AuIkpE=; b=F4vCpMEzZWYkC/iCoDAV88xuGumz7k5n6U2JhL+HaLF8vGNIEcW0yRIahSQ202vObA xALqMDHnbS+9tZPNWnJGRcMibpAEDM/wW0v0a+zcooPIojkyTpK8tq6z1m3XzDzjW/6z SyrMENe6qug7heMy0Dl2AiFzakCojwMG0JmVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=yAV7QwwRZFeMKlGHP2wedCJOLfYzjYTKvidQWhHBiP0XJ8VuO7RtEb6yMBqW+LMlkk Myb35R8abCQqOv8LsR2uHS0vybTe8T/fp0JUFjAy9YqFBdgibTzWbtU8LcSouLB2T+hX p1yFqWldEsSti3J536bRWbAqieRzf+sHyAK6E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:06:08 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003131406t7def33afv28df713a3fd5f589@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virt Gig Spam:short test cast on Livestream now From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fe688e43af00481b5dad9 Resent-Message-ID: <01xIBB.A.QhH.SxAnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:06:10 +0000 (UTC) --0015173fe688e43af00481b5dad9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm going to do a short test cast on livestream now, testing a new channel that I've not used. www.livestream.com/jimgoodinlive, tune in if you are around today. thx jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015173fe688e43af00481b5dad9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm going to do a short test cast on livestream now, testing a new chan= nel that I've not used.=A0 www.livestream.com/jimgoodinlive, tune in if you are around tod= ay.

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------=_Part_992934_385769138.1268518260085-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 22:29:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F232B3BFD6; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:29:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Kris Hartung" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:29:40 +0000 (UTC) The microphones that we won the NAIRD Instrumental Album of the YEar award in 1998 for Martin Simpson's album "Cool and Unusual" were an ATM 4050 and a Neumann K184 The ATM 4033 ($400) is the identical microphone as the ATM 4050 just without multiple polar patterns (no big deal at all, just point it where you want to record) additionally, the 4033 is the exact same microphone as the pricier ATM 4060 which has an A12 tube in it. Instead of paying $1350 for an ATM 4060, you can buy an ATM 4033 for $400 (or cheaper if purchased used) and use a tube mic preamp Additionally, Andy Butler just hipped me to the fact that the Swedish Company SA makes a fantastic and very inexpensive mic that is the equivalent of the much pricier Neumann. A pair of matched condensers SA1s just set a client of mine back $400, although you can buy one individually for $270. This is a world class combination and is part of my Champagne Living on a Beer Budget thread that I was just about to start. Chris, Bill and I once did a double blind study of the ATM 4033, a borrowed Neumann U87 ($3,400) and a used Rhodet NT2 ($200) We were looking at vocal quality at the time but here's what we discovered by micing different ranges of voice and different gender of singer and I then later tested them on percussion. The 4033 had the best detail of the three mics, in fact, it might even be a little surreal in the detail but this is really easy to fix with simple equalization. the U87 sounded excellent too. It should. It costs $3,400. The Rhode NT2 had a fascinating characteristic: It was by far the lesser quality of microphone and really lacked detail, however, when you put headphones on and listened to a recording with it of someone singing, it sounded like they were singing straight into your ear. It was sooooo naturalistic, despite being the obviously inferior mic. It was so warm sounding that I've frequently double miced vocals with the 4033 and the NT2. In retrospect, I can't more highly recommend the ATM 4033. It would be my single desert island recording mic...........fantastic sounding at a price I can afford. > I'm looking for a decent recording/performance mic in the range of $400, > for my archtop guitar. I''ve found that I totally love the soun From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 13 23:14:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B5223BFD3; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14-304548518 From: richard sales X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:14:00 -0800 Message-Id: <8A2F8975-148D-4D88-9229-76BC643F0445@glasswing.com> References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: <5HcA1B.A.YKB.8wBnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:14:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14-304548518 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've used the Neumann KM184s (XY pattern) and they work great - not = perfect but very well. I would also try AKG 451s. Don't know how the = new ones work but should be fine. On the last Hayley record I fell back = in love with my very old AKG 414. Noisy as a small creek but REALLY = beautiful sound. Sometimes used that with a KM184 and sometimes Neumann = TLM 103. Don't know how the new 414s are. But tonewise it was really = great. =20 Original Neumann KM 84s are now too expensive and could be kaboshed if = bought from Ebay. =20 I've heard good things about the SA stuff. They may be made in = China??? If so, you might have to pick through them for the best sound. Of course the BEST path is to go to your local equip shop and buy (or = borrow) all of them and then return the ones that don't work for you. = Try the Earthworks mic's too. I've heard some good stuff done with them = and they aren't too expensive.=20 A record I did with Wavy Gravy won a NAIRD Award way back when! Rule #1? Have fun! R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com On Mar 13, 2010, at 2:29 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > The microphones that we won the NAIRD Instrumental Album of the YEar = award in > 1998 for Martin Simpson's album "Cool and Unusual" > were an ATM 4050 and a Neumann K184 >=20 > The ATM 4033 ($400) is the identical microphone as the ATM 4050 just > without multiple polar > patterns (no big deal at all, just point it where you want to record) >=20 > additionally, the 4033 is the exact same microphone as the pricier = ATM 4060 > which has an A12 tube in it. >=20 > Instead of paying $1350 for an ATM 4060, you can > buy an ATM 4033 for $400 (or cheaper if purchased used) > and use a tube mic preamp >=20 > Additionally, Andy Butler just hipped me to the fact that the Swedish > Company > SA makes a fantastic and very inexpensive mic that is the equivalent = of > the much > pricier Neumann. >=20 > A pair of matched condensers SA1s just set a client of mine back = $400,=20 > although > you can buy one individually for $270. >=20 > This is a world class combination and is part of my Champagne Living > on a Beer Budget thread that I was just about to start. >=20 > Chris, Bill and I once did a double blind study of the > ATM 4033, a borrowed Neumann U87 ($3,400) and a used Rhodet NT2 = ($200) >=20 > We were looking at vocal quality at the time but here's what we = discovered > by micing different ranges of voice and different gender of singer and = I > then later > tested them on percussion. >=20 > The 4033 had the best detail of the three mics, in fact, it might > even be a little surreal in the detail but this is really easy to fix = with > simple equalization. >=20 > the U87 sounded excellent too. It should. It costs $3,400. >=20 > The Rhode NT2 had a fascinating characteristic: It was by far the = lesser > quality of microphone and really lacked detail, however, when you put > headphones on and listened to a recording with it of someone singing, = it > sounded like they were singing straight into your ear. > It was sooooo naturalistic, despite being the obviously inferior mic. >=20 > It was so warm sounding that I've frequently double miced vocals with = the > 4033 and the NT2. >=20 > In retrospect, I can't more highly recommend the ATM 4033. > It would be my single desert island recording mic...........fantastic > sounding > at a price I can afford. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> I'm looking for a decent recording/performance mic in the range of = $400, >> for my archtop guitar. I''ve found that I totally love the soun >=20 --Apple-Mail-14-304548518 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I've = used the Neumann KM184s (XY pattern) and they work great - not perfect = but very well.  I would also try AKG 451s.  Don't know how the = new ones work but should be fine.  On the last Hayley record I fell = back in love with my very old AKG 414.  Noisy as a small creek but = REALLY beautiful sound.  Sometimes used that with a KM184 and = sometimes Neumann TLM 103.  Don't know how the new 414s are. =  But tonewise it was really great. =  

Original Neumann KM 84s are now too expensive = and could be kaboshed if bought from Ebay. =  

I've heard good things about the SA = stuff.   They may be made in China??? If so, you might have to pick = through them for the best sound.

Of course the = BEST path is to go to your local equip shop and buy (or borrow) all of = them and then return the ones that don't work for you.  Try the = Earthworks mic's too.  I've heard some good stuff done with them = and they aren't too expensive. 

A record I = did with Wavy Gravy won a NAIRD Award way back = when!

Rule #1? Have = fun!

R
richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
= www.goodnaturefarms.com=









On Mar 13, 2010, at 2:29 PM, looppool@cruzio.com = wrote:

The microphones that we won the NAIRD Instrumental = Album of the YEar award in
1998 for Martin Simpson's album =  "Cool and Unusual"
were an ATM 4050  and a Neumann = K184

The ATM 4033 ($400) is the identical microphone as the ATM = 4050 just
without multiple polar
patterns (no big deal at all, =  just point it where you want to record)

additionally, =  the 4033 is the exact same microphone as the pricier ATM = 4060
which has an A12 tube in it.

Instead of paying $1350 for = an ATM 4060,  you can
buy an ATM 4033 for $400 (or cheaper if = purchased used)
and use a tube mic preamp

Additionally, =  Andy Butler just hipped me to the fact that the = Swedish
Company
SA makes a fantastic and very inexpensive mic that = is the equivalent of
the much
pricier Neumann.

A pair of = matched condensers SA1s  just set a client of mine back $400, =
although
you can buy one individually for $270.

This is a = world class combination and is part of my Champagne Living
on a Beer = Budget thread that I was just about to start.

Chris, Bill and I = once did a double blind study of the
ATM 4033,  a borrowed = Neumann U87 ($3,400) and a used Rhodet NT2 ($200)

We were looking = at vocal quality at the time but here's what we discovered
by micing = different ranges of voice and different gender of singer and I
then = later
tested them on percussion.

The 4033 had the best detail = of the three mics,  in fact,  it might
even be a little = surreal in the detail but this is really easy to fix with
simple = equalization.

the U87 sounded excellent too.  It should. =  It costs $3,400.

The Rhode NT2 had a fascinating = characteristic:   It was by far the lesser
quality of = microphone and really lacked detail, however,  when you = put
headphones on and listened to a recording with it of someone = singing,  it
sounded like they were singing straight into your = ear.
It was sooooo naturalistic, despite being the obviously inferior = mic.

It was so warm sounding that I've frequently double miced = vocals with the
4033 and the NT2.

In retrospect,  I can't = more highly recommend the ATM 4033.
It would be my single desert = island recording mic...........fantastic
sounding
at a price I can = afford.



I'm looking for a = decent recording/performance mic in the range of = $400,
for my archtop guitar. =  I''ve found that I totally love the = soun


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Lovely! Maybe not the same model because mine isen't noisy. It is an AKG C 414 B-TL2. Good for most things thanks to the variable direction, and especially for guitar. When I was signed to record label this label owned studios with many vintage microphones. The employed engineer suggested I should borrow two old Neuman U67 and holy shit what a good sound!!! For the project studio (not mine but the label's) I had bought a U87 and thought it sounded ok, but the U67 totally changed the rules. It's funny that those two U67s sounded very different. And the sound kind of changed over time too as the tubes got warmer. 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------=_NextPart_000_0044_01CAC2F5.BF67AFE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 03:00:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B1BD3BFDF; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0BE32507-DAA2-4AA2-B646-2D6EA5980E15@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-318142720 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: guitar setups OT Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:00:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:00:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-318142720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The split pickup on a precision bass is wired for hum canceling, the two pickups on a Jazz Bass when used individually are single coil and are noisier by nature, though plenty of companies like Fender ,Seymour Duncan, and dimarzio make stacked Jazz bass pickups that are hum canceling, and sound really good to my ears. Fender has been making a P/J style bass for a few years because people have been putting Jazz bass pickups on P basses since Jaco arrived on the scene in the 70's, so you could have the best of both worlds. Then there is Musicman, the Stingray is a very good active bass that is great for a wide range of styles with lots of eq options. Fender's modern design basses can also be gotten with active electronics and more sophisticated eq. http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0135760359 I like em all, any would be a great choice. i think the P bass might be more traveled in the recordings of the genres you mentioned, historically speaking, but people are playing all kinds of basses these days. Bill --Apple-Mail-2-318142720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   The split pickup on = a precision bass is wired for hum canceling, the two pickups on a Jazz = Bass when used individually are single coil and are noisier by nature, = though plenty of companies like Fender ,Seymour Duncan, and dimarzio = make stacked Jazz bass pickups that are hum canceling, and sound really = good to my ears. Fender has been making a P/J style bass for a few years = because people have been putting Jazz bass pickups on P basses since = Jaco arrived on the scene in the 70's, so you could have the best of = both worlds. Then there is Musicman, the Stingray is a very good active = bass that is great for a wide range of styles with lots of eq options. = Fender's modern design basses can also be gotten with active electronics = and more sophisticated eq.  htt= p://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=3D0135760359 I = like em all, any  would be a great choice. i think the P bass might = be more traveled in the recordings of the genres you mentioned, = historically speaking, but people are playing all kinds of basses these = days.
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2-318142720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 03:20:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D19F3BFE2; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 386 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:20:55 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8772ae69-4b4b-4f84-8058-238476d17b58_" X-Originating-IP: [97.91.222.134] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: anyone running @ 64 buffer size? Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:14:27 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2010 03:14:28.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[74E47A50:01CAC324] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:20:56 +0000 (UTC) --_8772ae69-4b4b-4f84-8058-238476d17b58_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if i can run @ 128 with a dual core=2C should i be able to run 64 with a qu= ad core? =3BoD im sure that logic does not hold its weight=2C but where doe= s the bottleneck occur for digital audio processing? i know to use a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set- i know to avoid the motherboard display output and use a separate video car= d- any other tricks? currently run XP=2C maybe windows7 would aid in this adventure? i hear its = fairly lightweight and resource efficient- ty~! fro =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3= --_8772ae69-4b4b-4f84-8058-238476d17b58_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

if i can run @ 128 with a dual core=2C should i be able to run 64 w= ith a quad core? =3BoD im sure that logic does not hold its weight=2C but w= here does the bottleneck occur for digital audio processing?

i know = to use a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set-
i know to avo= id the motherboard display output and use a separate video card-

any= other tricks?

currently run XP=2C maybe windows7 would aid in this = adventure? i hear its fairly lightweight and resource efficient-

ty~= !

fro


The New Busy is not the old bus= y. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. = --_8772ae69-4b4b-4f84-8058-238476d17b58_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 03:46:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5686F3BFDF; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:46:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=K1SLIWyfwTxHFnBJpWhy483ugdrNHFaodBaM4gmbfPE=; b=BLK4eRSWMwIG1b1xLUgsNIqshSvayDzQi44kJu8ydveCUNBWI/mKx1Km2jiSs64Gc/ Q8+IcIZWWPAE5x5s9pfvWSQtfb70gjj1EcLM77LBwcTQOJcS2pXyi+e7R1y+zYiEI2ou X+rD5EcMHmO1Hs5JDNgniqJS5oDXt13cQa1As= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tfzBcA7m6Qoo84lbv/YeDG19dzRN3riPSo4eFNfe0A8sevNCmLETTMJebBHaC6baUK 96X6TuafMuPsd8BGgUbvC5igQdYDNYclN75ODOWBP8YZ1Em35itovu7IUIFalWfL/oPt QQ9zyGPa00tbreHfdvMZYu9IqZWznE91tfav0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:46:41 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003131946h4b79b046uef964baf482e683e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anyone running @ 64 buffer size? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64980fecb49050481ba9c4f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:46:42 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64980fecb49050481ba9c4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good Question, but I don't think the answer is straight forward. I'm running a quad core, but my USB audio interface (a Line6 TonePort) doesn't even allow a 64 setting. While a fast CPU will help with smaller buffer sizes, your audio interface is just as important. A PCI or Firewire interface might allow smaller buffer sizes. The expensive RME interfaces seem to allow very small buffers. Also the "chipset" on the motherboard seems to have an impact on USB and Firewire audio interfaces. It seems to me that the answer depends on your whole setup, not just the CPU. On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > > if i can run @ 128 with a dual core, should i be able to run 64 with a quad > core? ;oD im sure that logic does not hold its weight, but where does the > bottleneck occur for digital audio processing? > > i know to use a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set- > i know to avoid the motherboard display output and use a separate video > card- > > any other tricks? > > currently run XP, maybe windows7 would aid in this adventure? i hear its > fairly lightweight and resource efficient- > > ty~! > > fro > > > ------------------------------ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get > started. > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0016e64980fecb49050481ba9c4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good Question, but I don't think the answer is straight forward. I'= m running a quad core, but my USB audio interface (a Line6 TonePort) doesn&= #39;t even allow a 64 setting. While a fast CPU will help with smaller buff= er sizes, your audio interface is just as important. A PCI or Firewire inte= rface might allow smaller buffer sizes. The expensive RME interfaces seem t= o allow very small buffers. Also the "chipset" on the motherboard= seems to have an impact on USB and Firewire audio interfaces. It seems to = me that the answer depends on your whole setup, not just the CPU.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM, FRO DIDDLY = <parispro00@= hotmail.com> wrote:


if i can run @ 128 with a dual core, should i be able to run 64 wit= h a quad core? ;oD im sure that logic does not hold its weight, but where d= oes the bottleneck occur for digital audio processing?

i know to use= a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set-
i know to avoid the motherboard display output and use a separate video car= d-

any other tricks?

currently run XP, maybe windows7 would a= id in this adventure? i hear its fairly lightweight and resource efficient-=

ty~!

fro


The New Busy is not the old = busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started.



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--0016e64980fecb49050481ba9c4f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 04:05:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A9763BFE0; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5805 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:05:18 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_x0FTkPleosA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=3CiG_6AjU45naEYmxe4A:9 a=VlMp0RCCZ-o0mIgDS5VgKAf11PgA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.190.240.225 Message-ID: <4B9C4ABD.2070505@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:32:29 -0500 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:05:18 +0000 (UTC) looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > The microphones that we won the NAIRD Instrumental Album of the YEar award in > 1998 for Martin Simpson's album "Cool and Unusual" > were an ATM 4050 and a Neumann K184 > > The ATM 4033 ($400) is the identical microphone as the ATM 4050 just > without multiple polar > patterns (no big deal at all, just point it where you want to record) > > additionally, the 4033 is the exact same microphone as the pricier ATM 4060 > which has an A12 tube in it. > > Instead of paying $1350 for an ATM 4060, you can > buy an ATM 4033 for $400 (or cheaper if purchased used) > and use a tube mic preamp I'll second the nomination for the AT. I've had a pair of 4050s for a long time. I've tried others (for soprano and tenor sax, not guitar), but when I do a serious a-b recording comparison, I always gravitate back to the the 4050s. I've heard some very good results on a variety of instruments using Mojave Audio mics, and I may try one, but if I had to stick with the 4050s I wouldn't be heartbroken. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 04:31:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FF423BFE3; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qrSrLF/40poTsdv0/Jg00Cb1q0G4Qb3aihA6AplDMvY=; b=fCO3IkpQgg6wWQ/5PrnyXqCBlgyeTy5xvk0WYx8r0fgNbzWQeE2m+Av/sfsOShzRcD Ntz9x6F71fOdCY/bvZsVDWnq7CWXY5NR2QDECvCAl/97xah6PpiItKai7d/evogRHAMB eE1x25aLY1XmGUcDFYzSRhg5owpDEejb6Mc9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OIsi2UbsMtgH4uIDhifmWOd69lnX5W2mXG+jZaKtSUtHia35DC3TNWLqG6mNnVQ/bf tFwpa7XLJFBAkWjbyT6jcosFkDgpzk0xceLSKKYzX0xs/kEsvYTGCW2JSWzwvmJlzOHp MJc5rUyZeshO9MfESx8Yzil9wv0U0IY3g7hz4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <588ce11d1003101914r6135282dw585ab98ce723655a@mail.gmail.com> <51AC0A8D-75A5-4842-8F62-B3B8DD661C19@verizon.net> <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:31:48 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003132031l80786c3q976e4f863e2fdc54@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b859e2d1ade0481bb3e7a Resent-Message-ID: <8QeVDD.A.yYG.1aGnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:31:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b859e2d1ade0481bb3e7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very Nice Fabio! I loved it! On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > My preferred one ! Thanks for pointing to the new version ! > > Here is a clip with intensive use of this plugin, I've just posted in the > past: > http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Is_it_rain.mp3 > > > fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > 2010/3/11 Art Simon > > For me, it's glitch: >> http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ >> (BTW, this discussion got me back to the website to see there is a new >> update, the first in 4 years! Cool!) >> >> >> > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0016363b859e2d1ade0481bb3e7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very Nice Fabio! I loved it!

On Thu, Mar = 11, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
My preferred one ! Thanks for pointing to the new version !
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Here is a clip with intensive use of this plugin, I've just posted= in the past:
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fabio
2010/3/11 Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>

For me, it's = glitch:
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/
(BTW, this discussion got me back to the website to see there is a new upda= te, the first in 4 years! Cool!)=20

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--0016363b859e2d1ade0481bb3e7a-- From John@itwv.net Sun Mar 14 04:32:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.thescyocs.com (mail.thescyocs.com [208.180.139.83]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F863BFE0; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([82.128.18.216] RDNS failed) by mail.thescyocs.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:24:20 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dr Kingsley Paul" Subject: YOUR PAYMENT NOTIFICATION Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:31:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2010 04:24:20.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[37E24C90:01CAC32E] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Zenith Bank ATM RE:YOUR PAYMENT NOTIFICATION From:Dr Kingsley Paul. Remittance Manager. Zenith Bank Of Nigeria.Attention:Beneficiary This to officially inform you that we have verified your contract file presently on my desk, and I found out that you have not received your payment due to your lack of co-operation and not fulfilling the obligations giving to you in respect to your contract payment.Secondly,you are hereby adviced to stop dealing with some non-officials in the bank as this is an illegal act and will have to stop if you so wish to receive your payment immediately.After the board meeting held at our headquarters, we have resolved in finding a solution to your problem, and as you may know, we have arranged your payment through our SWIFT CARD PAYMENT CENTER in Europe, America,Africa and Asia Pacific, which is the instruction given by our president, ALAHAJI USMAN AMIR YARADUA (GCFR) Federal Republic of Nigeria.This card center will send you an ATM CARD that consist of 7 million USD which you will use to withdraw your money in an ATM MACHINE in any part of the world, but the maximum is $4,000 Us Dollars per transaction. So, if you like to receive your fund this way,reply to this office immediately for the issueing of your (ATM)CARD.(1) Your Full Name: (2) Address where you want the payment center to send your ATM CARD.: (3) Phone And Fax Number: (4) Bank Name We shall be expecting to receive your information you have to stop any further communication with anybody or office apart from this office of the presidency. On this regards, do not hesitate to contact me for more details and direction, and also please do update me with any new development. Thanks for your co-operation.Best Regards, Dr Kingsley Paul Remittance Manager Zenith Bank Of Nigeria. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 04:45:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 407773BFE5; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4wgus0+QooLM2pKuCGYsJgiO2I6bc3R5g1XVJnw1WYQ=; b=XmJ5Kd6FbKbu8J96hcLpT0a3u597XmXjUc3LMXloXAeLSnWXkLau8F4DainYDOYlC+ bu4hIPIiIp6XkWbRNYX2CEefPjIFxEKpC5a/ZEGC3+nWf25EyjD7S4UktRLWRqTwMsCo HYQwZ2usjm+0tmBa9CkMdWRJRcglaS4/LA3OM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xoorJpFHtlr8yg/5ukVVbhUnyzzrqQupk9B+VCyxmeW3UW7URbJmBiP/drtijYbR/9 xph5Z1+T2069DmH1PytbOywvtMCceoQ43B8V3QtBZXABUzv3AFQTRhudWEYjBdBKlwGD VXiD6qfH6t3DTEFcX0sbNtbYon+HGnQ/BGB0g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004701cac31f$a8720e50$ebf13747@tbl01fcf9be917> References: <569461867.17052851268518260100.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <004701cac31f$a8720e50$ebf13747@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:45:00 -0500 Message-ID: <44e368751003132045l56e66286x29b32292714afae1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:45:01 +0000 (UTC) blood in, blood out. ld 4 eva. - jim On Saturday, March 13, 2010, Jeff Duke wrote: > > > > > > > > you can unsubscribe? i thought it was a "for life" > sort of thing...hmmm > > =A0http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > Ace Ovil=A0 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:19 > PM > Subject: RE: unsubscribe > > > > Could > someone please clarify to all these folks how to > unsubscribe? > We > seem to get one of these at least twice a week. That and the occasional= =93out > of office reply=94 from the insurance guy. =A0LOL. > > > > From: reidertsgaard@comcast.net > [mailto:reidertsgaard@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 > 5:11 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: > unsubscribe > > > unsubscribe > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - > www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2745 - Release > Date: 03/13/10 21:51:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 06:38:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 049533BFEA; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=dlGgRwr8Y6BH2VycmLhq2MXcb/oE1AXFp8DD4RhjdnI=; b=npcb9utu8w5Ig1+6QeghZ8E3v5ilmD2rvNNmcO/tc513IBr60CX8HmkO5zaTP6J1Fw Iv/yPqObVSDTYukcQrfCjpqg8mRymPkGzJ7KfNq9yN08j8GKpPd7PYvmukMoO6pDX59b 7pqF8h+wZwRq5ig9mvksfXnLxmAAztb3l0TPE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=K7Lu1ja2JveJu2WMQw7wCfw6I+d5MG167KBZOmgado711uqDuAX+pKbpBxT9cbHMSf eGfzW8lvuBt2PzkzezfAUaGOPSqWGrbMECStCAra3VLC9Oc5ELEcxbcQjC2TtPyXHrfC iWJUkECEO9l7j7x2ixupax8bPYGWsgO6BnHTY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:38:08 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003132238n2e25ada3k7a613deda0aa620e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Onyx Ashanti at Createdigiatlmusic.com From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a39dfcbfb40481bd015f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:38:09 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a39dfcbfb40481bd015f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was pleased to see the write up of Onyx Ashanti and his use of the iPhone as a music controller at createdigitalmusic.com: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/03/11/one-man-band-watch-gestures-touchosc-pure-data-breath-control-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-1041112 His performance was one of my favorites at Y2K9: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2383064 Thanks again to Bob Amstadt for documenting all the performances! -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --001636c5a39dfcbfb40481bd015f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was pleased to see the write up of Onyx Ashanti and his use of the iPhone= as a music controller at created= igitalmusic.com:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010= /03/11/one-man-band-watch-gestures-touchosc-pure-data-breath-control-oh-my/= comment-page-1/#comment-1041112
His performance was one of my favorites at Y2K9:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2383064
T= hanks again to Bob Amstadt for documenting all the performances!
--
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--001636c5a39dfcbfb40481bd015f-- From rtm.williams@gmail.com Sun Mar 14 08:28:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3565 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:28:14 UTC Received: from mout7.freenet.de (mout7.freenet.de [195.4.92.97]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CF23BFE0; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout7.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID atmcarddept3@goldmail.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #1) id 1NqiFa-0003rl-09; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:28:38 +0100 Received: from [41.217.65.13] (port=47318 helo=User) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID atmcarddept3@goldmail.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #2) id 1NqiFL-0000Sf-Ac; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:28:37 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Rotimi Williams" Subject: Did you assign your money to Mr.Malone? Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:28:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <1NqiFL-0000Sf-Ac@8.mx.freenet.de> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
For your urgent attention, 
 
 
May i inform you that one Mr. Donald Malone from Canada presented a deed of assignment to us alleging that you signed it few weeks ago to enable him collect your funds with the federal Government of NNigeria. He claimed that you died One week ago of terminal cancer, If you read this email then it means he is fake but if you fail to respond in four days we will assume he is right and release your funds to him.
 
For security reasons i will give you details upon your reply.
 
Best Regards,
Mr. Rotimi. Williams.
PA, Finance Minister,
Nigeria.
 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 10:26:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9145D3BFEE; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 363746283/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.142.179/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.142.179 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAJZWnEtPTo6z/2dsb2JhbAAH0WCEewQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,638,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="363746283" Message-ID: <4B9CB9D0.7000904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:26:24 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <8A2F8975-148D-4D88-9229-76BC643F0445@glasswing.com> In-Reply-To: <8A2F8975-148D-4D88-9229-76BC643F0445@glasswing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:26:16 +0000 (UTC) richard sales wrote: > > I've heard good things about the SA stuff. They may be made in > China??? If so, you might have to pick through them for the best sound. > Actually the name is SE, short for Studio Electronics. Indeed it's a Chinese company, but if the numerous reviews and articles are believed they are actually a company that's dedicated to making an excellent product. http://www.seelectronics.com/whatsnew.html the particular model in question here is the SE1a. Small diaphragm cardioid. Like many mics, they have a subtle peak at 10kHz which brings out the high end details a bit without sounding harsh. I have a stereo pair (well, you get stereo mounting fixtures and a flight case in the package). They are well matched. It may be that the SE1a's sold as separates have the capsules that didn't match well enough for a pair, but I have no actual evidence of that. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 10:58:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1B5F3BFED; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TGykS2bi84vbDaMjNm2o4at6WEx3uRmg9ZXOHT9GZSc=; b=RJqDhohpWsrptwSkEmYfjAQLM+6aoAPOzglBC38+kse42wR2YDcG572sXH4ffDNayk Wt4bUtjyV9YArRQ+NqtPHe1V7GknyXFhmGw02u6kT7NPFh6zNFDUVe9Ud1tSFCx6wc18 aX7Tmvq5+rHePOgutIbn3eYmOVQp3krTQZMwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aFyo0/Ww3GKJmyrEvoJP8Clz7+9rInKQ4WzbgPinXClu66p6m8q9pV33i9CHiuoXtD tiXboAD6hYSvdPz1HvvL/O3UCnHr/UFsyWPxugM1/uwYD8NPFqtzPQzRBLUP9HR30JyA WakuZrUdF46uUOQD/7Sb4hWGgtL3lJpRNiXJo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:58:46 +0100 Message-ID: <7a9df3e51003140358l28d694ax8fa6fc98ccb615b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e681095e4c0481c0a663 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:58:47 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7e681095e4c0481c0a663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ive also gotten recomendations for the Sterling audio ST55,any expreiences with thtat one? 2010/3/13 > The microphones that we won the NAIRD Instrumental Album of the YEar award > in > 1998 for Martin Simpson's album "Cool and Unusual" > were an ATM 4050 and a Neumann K184 > > The ATM 4033 ($400) is the identical microphone as the ATM 4050 just > without multiple polar > patterns (no big deal at all, just point it where you want to record) > > additionally, the 4033 is the exact same microphone as the pricier ATM > 4060 > which has an A12 tube in it. > > Instead of paying $1350 for an ATM 4060, you can > buy an ATM 4033 for $400 (or cheaper if purchased used) > and use a tube mic preamp > > Additionally, Andy Butler just hipped me to the fact that the Swedish > Company > SA makes a fantastic and very inexpensive mic that is the equivalent of > the much > pricier Neumann. > > A pair of matched condensers SA1s just set a client of mine back $400, > although > you can buy one individually for $270. > > This is a world class combination and is part of my Champagne Living > on a Beer Budget thread that I was just about to start. > > Chris, Bill and I once did a double blind study of the > ATM 4033, a borrowed Neumann U87 ($3,400) and a used Rhodet NT2 ($200) > > We were looking at vocal quality at the time but here's what we discovered > by micing different ranges of voice and different gender of singer and I > then later > tested them on percussion. > > The 4033 had the best detail of the three mics, in fact, it might > even be a little surreal in the detail but this is really easy to fix with > simple equalization. > > the U87 sounded excellent too. It should. It costs $3,400. > > The Rhode NT2 had a fascinating characteristic: It was by far the lesser > quality of microphone and really lacked detail, however, when you put > headphones on and listened to a recording with it of someone singing, it > sounded like they were singing straight into your ear. > It was sooooo naturalistic, despite being the obviously inferior mic. > > It was so warm sounding that I've frequently double miced vocals with the > 4033 and the NT2. > > In retrospect, I can't more highly recommend the ATM 4033. > It would be my single desert island recording mic...........fantastic > sounding > at a price I can afford. > > > > > I'm looking for a decent recording/performance mic in the range of $400, > > for my archtop guitar. I''ve found that I totally love the soun > > --0016e6d7e681095e4c0481c0a663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ive also gotten recomendations for the Sterling audio ST55,any expreiences = with thtat one?

2010/3/13 <looppool@cruzio.com><= /span>
The microphones t= hat we won the NAIRD Instrumental Album of the YEar award in
1998 for Martin Simpson's album =A0"Cool and Unusual"
were an ATM 4050 =A0and a Neumann K184

The ATM 4033 ($400) is the identical microphone as the ATM 4050 just
without multiple polar
patterns (no big deal at all, =A0just point it where you want to record)
additionally, =A0the 4033 is the exact same microphone as the pricier ATM 4= 060
which has an A12 tube in it.

Instead of paying $1350 for an ATM 4060, =A0you can
buy an ATM 4033 for $400 (or cheaper if purchased used)
and use a tube mic preamp

Additionally, =A0Andy Butler just hipped me to the fact that the Swedish Company
SA makes a fantastic and very inexpensive mic that is the equivalent of
the much
pricier Neumann.

A pair of matched condensers SA1s =A0just set a client of mine back $400, although
you can buy one individually for $270.

This is a world class combination and is part of my Champagne Living
on a Beer Budget thread that I was just about to start.

Chris, Bill and I once did a double blind study of the
ATM 4033, =A0a borrowed Neumann U87 ($3,400) and a used Rhodet NT2 ($200)
We were looking at vocal quality at the time but here's what we discove= red
by micing different ranges of voice and different gender of singer and I then later
tested them on percussion.

The 4033 had the best detail of the three mics, =A0in fact, =A0it might
even be a little surreal in the detail but this is really easy to fix with<= br> simple equalization.

the U87 sounded excellent too. =A0It should. =A0It costs $3,400.

The Rhode NT2 had a fascinating characteristic: =A0 It was by far the lesse= r
quality of microphone and really lacked detail, however, =A0when you put headphones on and listened to a recording with it of someone singing, =A0it=
sounded like they were singing straight into your ear.
It was sooooo naturalistic, despite being the obviously inferior mic.

It was so warm sounding that I've frequently double miced vocals with t= he
4033 and the NT2.

In retrospect, =A0I can't more highly recommend the ATM 4033.
It would be my single desert island recording mic...........fantastic
sounding
at a price I can afford.



=A0> I'm looking for a decent recording/performance mic in the range= of $400,
> for my archtop guitar. =A0I''ve found that I totally love the = soun


--0016e6d7e681095e4c0481c0a663-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 14:46:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DD693BFF3; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lGA6hEVndMIg63406/7mOseY72xlxDM3tdY5WCtbT2c=; b=GLklvcYJN7BfwFef6SBW9pLOqiUkpbfkOmHrkJmYbyI3devrrgIHl/pWcqLvbeGIJy zl65kf8ioylHKTmXosq7dlnoOTx5totvI7eBNbDXboN8De5UlpCgo2zJvGPo52jWCAeI /W3iHgdNVhZdx08GNumTubE1JByUHMeETUv6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=v7pGGBxMAzv9F0Dl7KcrXGfSL5de900aT1dOcMHmLGogki9tdL+l8xxy/bLKdvMFsa 7dJ5GuevhZ0Yc3Y7gHj0njN44Tb8j4V+MvTSEvxVq9FIujlrwDepCbSSIHS9CzkgLHH6 TGrIVg7lad5+my361AvIfh3xeIzAP0/W5DiiU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B9CB9D0.7000904@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <8A2F8975-148D-4D88-9229-76BC643F0445@glasswing.com> <4B9CB9D0.7000904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:46:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58f7fe910070481c3d498 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:46:41 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58f7fe910070481c3d498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i use a pair of SE3a mics and they perform excellent on acoustic guitar. although the really big deal with SE mics is the Titan. its street price, years ago, was around 1500=80 and today, discontinued, is listed for less t= han 300=80. fantastic on tenor sax, trombone, etc. 2010/3/14 andy butler > > > richard sales wrote: > > >> I've heard good things about the SA stuff. They may be made in China??= ? >> If so, you might have to pick through them for the best sound. >> >> > Actually the name is SE, > short for Studio Electronics. > > Indeed it's a Chinese company, but if the numerous reviews > and articles are believed they are actually a company that's dedicated to > making an excellent product. > > http://www.seelectronics.com/whatsnew.html > > the particular model in question here is the SE1a. > Small diaphragm cardioid. Like many mics, they have a subtle peak at 10kH= z > which > brings out the high end details a bit without sounding > harsh. I have a stereo pair (well, you get stereo mounting fixtures > and a flight case in the package). They are well matched. > > It may be that the SE1a's sold as separates have the capsules > that didn't match well enough for a pair, but I have > no actual evidence of that. > andy butler > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d58f7fe910070481c3d498 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i use a pair of SE3a mics and they perform excellent on acoustic guitar.although the really big deal with SE mics is the Titan. its street price, = years ago, was around 1500=80 and today, discontinued, is listed for less t= han 300=80. fantastic on tenor sax, trombone, etc.

2010/3/14 andy butler <= akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>


richard sales wrote:


I've heard good things about the SA stuff. =A0 They may be made in Chin= a??? If so, you might have to pick through them for the best sound.


Actually the name is SE,
short for Studio Electronics.

Indeed it's a Chinese company, but if the numerous reviews
and articles are believed they are actually a company that's dedicated = to making an excellent product.

ht= tp://www.seelectronics.com/whatsnew.html

the particular model in question here is the SE1a.
Small diaphragm cardioid. Like many mics, they have a subtle peak at 10kHz = which
brings out the high end details a bit without sounding
harsh. I have a stereo pair (well, you get stereo mounting fixtures
and a flight case in the package). They are well matched.

It may be that the SE1a's sold as separates have the capsules
that didn't match well enough for a pair, but I have
no actual evidence of that.
andy butler



--
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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m= =E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!,= no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "=


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d58f7fe910070481c3d498-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 15:28:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89A9E3BFF4; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268580493; bh=9U6lUKSGF2EV3Dm9f5sHU7wvp4TYcxSxY9eSClj+pjE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ioSoVRtLM8hMbpmNcZHBxV6j7TGpXBBFbej3Ystdpp64JESf0M0zXy/fXMIXnGVgbsSbpvJXF8iOil6+HTp73a+o6PZKx7V0Qp+CMmHmyi2y5XuRVK0wnZFy8YBRTNg1ZKLbGcC5BoS6hqW1mkbmSqp8xA/dUusKQvrHd8d6QkA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=12UWNLUPDiHCkSJG26/AGZXuVmGzMefVpj0Tul4/8eAko+DEMcHlDkR2ZkzWRA812nEUuDvezCihXc0slpIriAIIcObuUlrsF+P3QIFIohIGdvkFGG89fR+bXpO+ezr0U8NX5IhSwuuIWao51NEjJH2L5qt74RIeoK++eMKybPA=; Message-ID: <420035.60488.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: obRrRSYVM1kEm6BFwDIg4wYe4MLVMnZ8i5oNsweyifW9Cw72CdpGROvH4ZHBdDkvNPYPyKbHg7P.EtWnPXnlUO7mr5yAuCpMTinLcd.4eodXuvhomZq12CpznyQdXf5iFU1DI817Jsi_R3Xsa1cRfLI7Gepzk4IdwiajhTr8AU6Z6K8A1RF4t6hdHbCR1Xa7zvvqSKiD2QeDjs_Qw4oBKrS6QlvC33Z9.wSgTf86oz_TSfG3pubm02HkrNfkg.Px9A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <8A2F8975-148D-4D88-9229-76BC643F0445@glasswing.com> <4B9CB9D0.7000904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2090961192-1268580488=:60488" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:28:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-2090961192-1268580488=:60488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry to go a little more off topic, but how about room mics for live recording of my band? Right now I have a couple of sm57 mics that I am using because it is all I have. Thanks, Eric --0-2090961192-1268580488=:60488 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Sorry to go a little more off topic, but how about room mics for live recording of my band? Right now I have a couple of sm57 mics that I am using because it is all I have.

Thanks,
Eric

--0-2090961192-1268580488=:60488-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 16:37:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D30B83BFF0; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yR+7v8dL2UdT3vhAW3FZl8Si5mWVvlD/585lck3r5jA=; b=tjZA/9/cMFwF99gMqop2hkq6ur6AurQ4TTKzsD+ODRbIJYTLBxWWAxfVsQRz/T2/F9 Nxx8B94Mc4forl11G//JFaa6ejejW/iajMQTc+hWrOH3oYAPObycWDgD1zuI2yBv1vIu 822ib6Xbi166Xh5JMe9y2/sbLtR9qPnH5VBsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SUoVWH3kA9X1Acir9m0fkipSFWzgIKy04X40GTSEtPP0stGjf782w/lugOEmjamGdf g5YbSiCLOKNUC+N+kv/rfCFRxuJEfxNGXgnpHnjrs1aGN7EscZkNEk6v7872MfQtV8cq eO1n7mZbGa0/rxKHp2u9/bzoQj5D32Gd9WH/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d1003131946h4b79b046uef964baf482e683e@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d1003131946h4b79b046uef964baf482e683e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:37:37 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b1003140937q16cdfa0dh47933840e401b2e7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anyone running @ 64 buffer size? From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2b562e625250481c5614f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:37:38 +0000 (UTC) --001636b2b562e625250481c5614f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm still trying to figure out how to run at 128 without intermittent pops and crackles. I'm on a macbook white 2g core2duo, 4 gigs of ram with a Duet as the audio interface. I know it can be possible because Per runs his macbook white @ 128 buffer with his RME fireface. I shut off Airport (internet) when I run Bidule, Logic, or Live but I always wonder in the back of my mind if there are other factors involved. I can't afford another computer yet just for audio and I use the macbook for everything so maybe I'm asking for too much. I would love to hear which computer/audio interface combos give reliable latency at a 128 buffer and if that did anything to strip their OS down to accomplish it. On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Good Question, but I don't think the answer is straight forward. I'm > running a quad core, but my USB audio interface (a Line6 TonePort) doesn't > even allow a 64 setting. While a fast CPU will help with smaller buffer > sizes, your audio interface is just as important. A PCI or Firewire > interface might allow smaller buffer sizes. The expensive RME interfaces > seem to allow very small buffers. Also the "chipset" on the motherboard > seems to have an impact on USB and Firewire audio interfaces. It seems to me > that the answer depends on your whole setup, not just the CPU. > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > >> >> >> if i can run @ 128 with a dual core, should i be able to run 64 with a >> quad core? ;oD im sure that logic does not hold its weight, but where does >> the bottleneck occur for digital audio processing? >> >> i know to use a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set- >> i know to avoid the motherboard display output and use a separate video >> card- >> >> any other tricks? >> >> currently run XP, maybe windows7 would aid in this adventure? i hear its >> fairly lightweight and resource efficient- >> >> ty~! >> >> fro >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. >> Get started. >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > --001636b2b562e625250481c5614f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm still trying to figure out how to run at 128 without intermittent p= ops and crackles. I'm on a macbook white 2g core2duo, 4 gigs of ram wit= h a Duet as the audio interface. I know it can be possible because Per runs= his macbook white @ 128 buffer with his RME fireface. I shut off Airport (= internet) when I run Bidule, Logic, or Live but I always wonder in the back= of my mind if there are other factors involved. I can't afford another= computer yet just for audio and I use the macbook for everything so maybe = I'm asking for too much. I would love to hear which computer/audio inte= rface combos give reliable latency at a 128 buffer and if that did anything= to strip their OS down to accomplish it.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Art Simon = <simart@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Good Question, but I don't think the answer is straight forward. I'= m running a quad core, but my USB audio interface (a Line6 TonePort) doesn&= #39;t even allow a 64 setting. While a fast CPU will help with smaller buff= er sizes, your audio interface is just as important. A PCI or Firewire inte= rface might allow smaller buffer sizes. The expensive RME interfaces seem t= o allow very small buffers. Also the "chipset" on the motherboard= seems to have an impact on USB and Firewire audio interfaces. It seems to = me that the answer depends on your whole setup, not just the CPU.


On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM, FRO DIDDLY = <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:


if i can run @ 128 with a dual core, should i be able to run 64 wit= h a quad core? ;oD im sure that logic does not hold its weight, but where d= oes the bottleneck occur for digital audio processing?

i know to use= a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set-
i know to avoid the motherboard display output and use a separate video car= d-

any other tricks?

currently run XP, maybe windows7 would a= id in this adventure? i hear its fairly lightweight and resource efficient-=

ty~!

fro


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--001636b2b562e625250481c5614f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 16:55:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 029CB3BFF6; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q0flZLX+dLIqpa96U+1CM6c1oem/JHB9Y2YjWKecOOY=; b=mV+dJD6+ke8bfItJIlCNH3qyip+EHHNchyf7+Hs5NagSMldOPcKeL0PlQqLxWoNige uzS72EFSc5tp5bIxDkFijpUgtBarLCGOv45VoB3uv+OwmDC+X4bU5j4faeqRwkE/dBXu aWRWSYKX4wI3n15mOtoRdGJ1UxOrdyVfsHJTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=W/TPHbLOodbRZSwvLfcOBOw6mEtjEKY3IYDmP4gKyRIC3rXu5KRru55/aORnxhpXjA I8qgkkc2PZBwNOU3jDTDTUzscZlFa2RvY6zUVD7W8gG059GHvi27jChZKQundWfFNHEc JNShKoaPwXoeCL2AJQfmrS7orC4YZHylQ2cZ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b1003140937q16cdfa0dh47933840e401b2e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d1003131946h4b79b046uef964baf482e683e@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003140937q16cdfa0dh47933840e401b2e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:55:17 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003140955n21991757xf9ee6a0a36bcf58a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anyone running @ 64 buffer size? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:55:20 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I would love to hear which computer/audio interface combos give reliable > latency at a 128 buffer Just tried the latest Bidule version and noticed that my white Macbook 2.2GHz with 4 GB RAM and RME fireface400 is way more CPU efficient when hosting stuff in Mainstage. So I have practically given up my ambition to modernize my old Bidule setup (that made in 2005, before Mainstage was released). Audio buffer constantly at 128. I have no issue with the latency because I come from a live musician background where typically use loudspeakers a couple of meters away from your ears. Even as a studio musician I like to not use headphones byt listen to the amp/speaker acoustically when playing (if using guitar, with wind instruments you hear it through the air anyway). The critical Bidule vs Mainstage test here was initiated by the recent Amlitube 3 upgrade. There was no way I could play two parallel effect chains from the STick in Bidule without audio artifacts. Same dual effects setup hosted in Mainstage sound perfectly clear. If I had a much more powerful computer I would appreciate the better routing capabilities in Bidule, but that's not an option. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 17:18:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 250243BFF7; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.58.53] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <1281123.548.1268539794956.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <1281123.548.1268539794956.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:18:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2010 17:18:33.0180 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FB8B1C0:01CAC39A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Thank you all for the input. As usual, it appears that everyone has their favorite mic that works for them, which makes it hard to make a decision. I am sure most of these mics, in the similar price range, are decent. I created a table that has many of them, and their specs and prices compared. http://www.box.net/shared/do73fgijmx What I am trying to consider in this context is the jazz archtop guitar. It is quite a different animal than the acoustic guitar. For one, it projects at only about half of the volume of an acoustic, because of the volume in the body, that it typically only has f-holes, and that it is often strung with flat wound strings. In that case, it tends to sound thinner than an acoustic when micing it, which is what you don't want in a jazz guitar. So I really need a mic that can pick up the subltles of the guitar, but probably has a good proximity effect when it move the mic closer to the guitar. Of course, I'll be blending the tone with the mag pickup through an amp. What I find disturbing about a lot of the specs above is most don't mention a Frequency Response, but try to sneak in a Frequency Range disguised as a Frequency Reponse. I find this very misleading and dishonest. Any good engineer knows the difference between the two. You can have an excellent frequency range, but with a crappy response. Range means nothing if the mic can't consistently reproduce it. The Josephson mic was recommended by a peer jazz guitarist, but otherwise I know nothing of the mics, except that it is made in the USA. Any comments on the spec comparisons? Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 17:28:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0E383BFFA; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PDnyxlU+QJe+0k3P9ehdPMbviPm99BTTvW84r201joI=; b=CNpPL9h9Zs7a7m6PW++Z27zJtYPe39lkxdDBCw+57jNXReNKWI31mKCtE8Fq7cJwYf tiq5Ohgqf+AqfUWoOPqMeHVFE7chLYWaJkO+UkAQYxwsaOtjQWjxiEIy6ahUozZKLEOY XHsQY8A1PoBX6R9CzXII08A+xJrR58HEFq9DY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZNHNfNpQAlWzS4NCgr3BZUpYv5qWsaOGCA6ehGbFD0BJsXqev8Sk1mw/IZvZZ1gEyW 1WEh66CIh3fVjjuvu+yQHEtqlmxFlGs5qwePzteRxNg2Tfsstv0WkAuCHlErAXF88wXQ sNSskHCbuo6Dhpcb6jn8YBtLC+AIl/JnrNi78= Message-ID: <4B9D1CAE.7080003@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:28:14 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anyone running @ 64 buffer size? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:28:10 +0000 (UTC) FRO DIDDLY schrieb: > if i can run @ 128 with a dual core, should i be able to run 64 with a > quad core? ;oD im sure that logic does not hold its weight, but where > does the bottleneck occur for digital audio processing? > > i know to use a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set- > i know to avoid the motherboard display output and use a separate > video card- Basically (and others did in part already tell you so - would expect Andy Butler to chime in here soon ;), every component in the chain from audio interface to your application (and back) plays its role here. This is (without any claim of completeness): * communication chipset of the interface ("your audio card") * communication protocol from interface to computer (e.g. firewire) * computer-sided communication adapter (e.g. firewire card/adapter in the computer) * system architecture of the computer (i.e. how the data gets from the adapter to the cpu) * computer BIOS * computer OS * computer's adapter driver * any layers in between driver and application (e.g. ASIO) * application And then there's of course the CPU speed... Now theory would say that using some dedicated interface structure will bring down your required buffer size. I had the best experiences with RME HDSP technology (which is a proprietary interface for some of their older interfaces, e.g. multiface (II)/digiface) and can easily reach a buffer size of 64 on my Kentsfield-equipped computer. The reason is that a lot of the components in this chain are done by RME (who take great pride in their designs, and rightly so), in that case everything from the (ASIC) communication chipset, the communication protocol (RME's own design and optimized for that application), the computer-side adapter and the drivers, and the adapter interfaces directly to the PCI(e) bridge, and that is usually designed well on most computers. There's also manufacturers who build audio-optimized computers - basically something you can do yourself if you spend days on end researching the necessary info. The best idea may be to define the unmodifiable starting points for your system (e.g. if you definitely need/want to use your specific audio interface) and then build around those conditions, considering some of the ideas you mentioned. You can in some cases also be lucky with some non-TI firewire chipsets, and also with an onboard graphics adapter...so make sure to try before you buy (and in the best case using the exact hardware/software setup you intend to use). Some other tricks: * DPC latency is an important parameter. Setup your computer including audio interface and use this tool: http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml * there are interfaces that work well with USB2. RME's earned good reports, but I also had success with the (discontinued) Marian UCON. Most of the time, USB is a problem on Macs. * Depending on your OS, use the means at your disposal to optimize it for audio. Caveat: there's a lot of sites out there which give you XP (or earlier)-optimized suggestions under the "Vista" or "Windows 7" header. But generally, turning off everything you do not need (NICs, all of those odd services, Aero etc.) is a good idea. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 20:50:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31E583BEE7; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.58.53] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <1281123.548.1268539794956.JavaMail.root@n34> <23845098.112.1268587395438.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <23845098.112.1268587395438.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:50:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2010 20:50:41.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[02899410:01CAC3B8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Document below updated with frequence response charts for each model. http://www.box.net/shared/do73fgijmx Take a look at how pristine the Neuman is in terms of response. I guess you pay for what you get. The Sure SM81 is not bad either...not as flat as the Neuman, of course. I particularly don't like the spikes at 10K for some of the mics. The archop is already bright enough, and I'm already having to notch that area significantly. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Thank you all for the input. As usual, it appears that everyone has their > favorite mic that works for them, which makes it hard to make a decision. > I am sure most of these mics, in the similar price range, are decent. > > I created a table that has many of them, and their specs and prices > compared. > > http://www.box.net/shared/do73fgijmx > > What I am trying to consider in this context is the jazz archtop guitar. > It is quite a different animal than the acoustic guitar. For one, it > projects at only about half of the volume of an acoustic, because of the > volume in the body, that it typically only has f-holes, and that it is > often strung with flat wound strings. In that case, it tends to sound > thinner than an acoustic when micing it, which is what you don't want in a > jazz guitar. So I really need a mic that can pick up the subltles of the > guitar, but probably has a good proximity effect when it move the mic > closer to the guitar. Of course, I'll be blending the tone with the mag > pickup through an amp. > > What I find disturbing about a lot of the specs above is most don't > mention a Frequency Response, but try to sneak in a Frequency Range > disguised as a Frequency Reponse. I find this very misleading and > dishonest. Any good engineer knows the difference between the two. You can > have an excellent frequency range, but with a crappy response. Range > means nothing if the mic can't consistently reproduce it. > > The Josephson mic was recommended by a peer jazz guitarist, but otherwise > I know nothing of the mics, except that it is made in the USA. > > Any comments on the spec comparisons? > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 22:33:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80BC43BFFE; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.58.53] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:33:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2010 22:33:31.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FEED8F0:01CAC3C6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Correction. The graphics for the Neuman was for the 83 Omni model, not 84. Thanks, Andy. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Document below updated with frequence response charts for each model. > > http://www.box.net/shared/do73fgijmx > > Take a look at how pristine the Neuman is in terms of response. I guess > you pay for what you get. > > The Sure SM81 is not bad either...not as flat as the Neuman, of course. > > I particularly don't like the spikes at 10K for some of the mics. The > archop is already bright enough, and I'm already having to notch that area > significantly. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> Thank you all for the input. As usual, it appears that everyone has >> their favorite mic that works for them, which makes it hard to make a >> decision. I am sure most of these mics, in the similar price range, are >> decent. >> >> I created a table that has many of them, and their specs and prices >> compared. >> >> http://www.box.net/shared/do73fgijmx >> >> What I am trying to consider in this context is the jazz archtop guitar. >> It is quite a different animal than the acoustic guitar. For one, it >> projects at only about half of the volume of an acoustic, because of the >> volume in the body, that it typically only has f-holes, and that it is >> often strung with flat wound strings. In that case, it tends to sound >> thinner than an acoustic when micing it, which is what you don't want in >> a jazz guitar. So I really need a mic that can pick up the subltles of >> the guitar, but probably has a good proximity effect when it move the mic >> closer to the guitar. Of course, I'll be blending the tone with the mag >> pickup through an amp. >> >> What I find disturbing about a lot of the specs above is most don't >> mention a Frequency Response, but try to sneak in a Frequency Range >> disguised as a Frequency Reponse. I find this very misleading and >> dishonest. Any good engineer knows the difference between the two. You >> can have an excellent frequency range, but with a crappy response. Range >> means nothing if the mic can't consistently reproduce it. >> >> The Josephson mic was recommended by a peer jazz guitarist, but otherwise >> I know nothing of the mics, except that it is made in the USA. >> >> Any comments on the spec comparisons? >> >> Kris >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 22:53:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1133C001; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_753a7e37-d941-4317-9bb0-a7129d8a2d4f_" X-Originating-IP: [97.91.222.134] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: anyone running @ 64 buffer size? Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:53:07 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B9D1CAE.7080003@googlemail.com> References: ,<4B9D1CAE.7080003@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2010 22:53:07.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CF63220:01CAC3C9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:53:08 +0000 (UTC) --_753a7e37-d941-4317-9bb0-a7129d8a2d4f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you everyone for the input! i was going to build a 2nd computer as a backup...but decided to try to bui= ld a better cpu and see if i can hit the 64 buffer size and will try to doc= ument the various configurations and see if there is any 1 or 2 things that= seems to make the most difference- im very curious to try windows 7 as ive always used XP for audio and i hear= windows7 is much more lightweight and efficient- i shelled out the cash for a RME800 very early in this game as everyone cla= imed it was the best=2C but thank you rainer for shedding some light on the= reasons why ill let you guys know what i find=2C any other input/suggestions always wel= come fro > Date: Sun=2C 14 Mar 2010 18:28:14 +0100 > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: anyone running @ 64 buffer size? >=20 > FRO DIDDLY schrieb: > > if i can run @ 128 with a dual core=2C should i be able to run 64 with = a=20 > > quad core? =3BoD im sure that logic does not hold its weight=2C but whe= re=20 > > does the bottleneck occur for digital audio processing? > > > > i know to use a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set- > > i know to avoid the motherboard display output and use a separate=20 > > video card- > Basically (and others did in part already tell you so - would expect=20 > Andy Butler to chime in here soon =3B)=2C every component in the chain fr= om=20 > audio interface to your application (and back) plays its role here. This= =20 > is (without any claim of completeness): > * communication chipset of the interface ("your audio card") > * communication protocol from interface to computer (e.g. firewire) > * computer-sided communication adapter (e.g. firewire card/adapter=20 > in the computer) > * system architecture of the computer (i.e. how the data gets from=20 > the adapter to the cpu) > * computer BIOS > * computer OS > * computer's adapter driver > * any layers in between driver and application (e.g. ASIO) > * application >=20 > And then there's of course the CPU speed... >=20 > Now theory would say that using some dedicated interface structure will=20 > bring down your required buffer size. I had the best experiences with=20 > RME HDSP technology (which is a proprietary interface for some of their=20 > older interfaces=2C e.g. multiface (II)/digiface) and can easily reach a= =20 > buffer size of 64 on my Kentsfield-equipped computer. > The reason is that a lot of the components in this chain are done by RME= =20 > (who take great pride in their designs=2C and rightly so)=2C in that case= =20 > everything from the (ASIC) communication chipset=2C the communication=20 > protocol (RME's own design and optimized for that application)=2C the=20 > computer-side adapter and the drivers=2C and the adapter interfaces=20 > directly to the PCI(e) bridge=2C and that is usually designed well on mos= t=20 > computers. >=20 > There's also manufacturers who build audio-optimized computers -=20 > basically something you can do yourself if you spend days on end=20 > researching the necessary info. The best idea may be to define the=20 > unmodifiable starting points for your system (e.g. if you definitely=20 > need/want to use your specific audio interface) and then build around=20 > those conditions=2C considering some of the ideas you mentioned. You can= =20 > in some cases also be lucky with some non-TI firewire chipsets=2C and als= o=20 > with an onboard graphics adapter...so make sure to try before you buy=20 > (and in the best case using the exact hardware/software setup you intend= =20 > to use). >=20 > Some other tricks: > * DPC latency is an important parameter. Setup your computer=20 > including audio interface and use this tool:=20 > http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml > * there are interfaces that work well with USB2. RME's earned good=20 > reports=2C but I also had success with the (discontinued) Marian UCON.=20 > Most of the time=2C USB is a problem on Macs. > * Depending on your OS=2C use the means at your disposal to optimize= =20 > it for audio. Caveat: there's a lot of sites out there which give you XP= =20 > (or earlier)-optimized suggestions under the "Vista" or "Windows 7"=20 > header. But generally=2C turning off everything you do not need (NICs=2C = all=20 > of those odd services=2C Aero etc.) is a good idea. >=20 >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb= ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1= --_753a7e37-d941-4317-9bb0-a7129d8a2d4f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you everyone for the input!
i was going to build a 2nd computer as= a backup...but decided to try to build a better cpu and see if i can hit t= he 64 buffer size and will try to document the various configurations and s= ee if there is any 1 or 2 things that seems to make the most difference-im very curious to try windows 7 as ive always used XP for audio and i hea= r windows7 is much more lightweight and efficient-
i shelled out the cas= h for a RME800 very early in this game as everyone claimed it was the best= =2C but thank you rainer for shedding some light on the reasons why

= ill let you guys know what i find=2C any other input/suggestions always wel= come

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>=3B Date: Sun=2C 14 Mar 2010 18:28:14 +0100
>=3B From: moin= sound@googlemail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
&= gt=3B Subject: Re: anyone running @ 64 buffer size?
>=3B
>=3B FR= O DIDDLY schrieb:
>=3B >=3B if i can run @ 128 with a dual core=2C s= hould i be able to run 64 with a
>=3B >=3B quad core? =3BoD im sure= that logic does not hold its weight=2C but where
>=3B >=3B does th= e bottleneck occur for digital audio processing?
>=3B >=3B
>=3B= >=3B i know to use a firewire card with the texas instrument chip set->=3B >=3B i know to avoid the motherboard display output and use a se= parate
>=3B >=3B video card-
>=3B Basically (and others did in= part already tell you so - would expect
>=3B Andy Butler to chime in= here soon =3B)=2C every component in the chain from
>=3B audio inter= face to your application (and back) plays its role here. This
>=3B is= (without any claim of completeness):
>=3B * communication chipset= of the interface ("your audio card")
>=3B * communication protoco= l from interface to computer (e.g. firewire)
>=3B * computer-sided= communication adapter (e.g. firewire card/adapter
>=3B in the comput= er)
>=3B * system architecture of the computer (i.e. how the data = gets from
>=3B the adapter to the cpu)
>=3B * computer BIOS<= br>>=3B * computer OS
>=3B * computer's adapter driver
&g= t=3B * any layers in between driver and application (e.g. ASIO)
>= =3B * application
>=3B
>=3B And then there's of course the C= PU speed...
>=3B
>=3B Now theory would say that using some dedic= ated interface structure will
>=3B bring down your required buffer si= ze. I had the best experiences with
>=3B RME HDSP technology (which i= s a proprietary interface for some of their
>=3B older interfaces=2C = e.g. multiface (II)/digiface) and can easily reach a
>=3B buffer size= of 64 on my Kentsfield-equipped computer.
>=3B The reason is that a l= ot of the components in this chain are done by RME
>=3B (who take gre= at pride in their designs=2C and rightly so)=2C in that case
>=3B eve= rything from the (ASIC) communication chipset=2C the communication
>= =3B protocol (RME's own design and optimized for that application)=2C the <= br>>=3B computer-side adapter and the drivers=2C and the adapter interfac= es
>=3B directly to the PCI(e) bridge=2C and that is usually designed= well on most
>=3B computers.
>=3B
>=3B There's also manuf= acturers who build audio-optimized computers -
>=3B basically somethi= ng you can do yourself if you spend days on end
>=3B researching the = necessary info. The best idea may be to define the
>=3B unmodifiable = starting points for your system (e.g. if you definitely
>=3B need/wan= t to use your specific audio interface) and then build around
>=3B th= ose conditions=2C considering some of the ideas you mentioned. You can
= >=3B in some cases also be lucky with some non-TI firewire chipsets=2C an= d also
>=3B with an onboard graphics adapter...so make sure to try be= fore you buy
>=3B (and in the best case using the exact hardware/soft= ware setup you intend
>=3B to use).
>=3B
>=3B Some other t= ricks:
>=3B * DPC latency is an important parameter. Setup your co= mputer
>=3B including audio interface and use this tool:
>=3B h= ttp://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
>=3B * there are int= erfaces that work well with USB2. RME's earned good
>=3B reports=2C b= ut I also had success with the (discontinued) Marian UCON.
>=3B Most = of the time=2C USB is a problem on Macs.
>=3B * Depending on your = OS=2C use the means at your disposal to optimize
>=3B it for audio. C= aveat: there's a lot of sites out there which give you XP
>=3B (or ea= rlier)-optimized suggestions under the "Vista" or "Windows 7"
>=3B he= ader. But generally=2C turning off everything you do not need (NICs=2C all =
>=3B of those odd services=2C Aero etc.) is a good idea.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B Rainer
>=3B
>=3B --
>=3B htt= p://moinlabs.de
>=3B Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs=
>=3B

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Learn More. = --_753a7e37-d941-4317-9bb0-a7129d8a2d4f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 23:17:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 763733C003; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.41.80.161] Reply-To: From: Ryan & Kara To: Subject: The Next step - choosing a USB mixer Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:17:40 -0400 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2010 23:17:40.0077 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AAC41D0:01CAC3CC] Resent-Message-ID: <21vUzB.A.5-C.V6WnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone. I asked a little while back about which looper I should buy for my setup. =20 Because I want multiple tracks & midi syncabillity it looked like the three= I could choose from were looperlative=2C echoplex IV and repeater. With lo= operlative having more storage and recording options that is the one I'd id= eally have when I can pony up the large ammount of cash involved. =20 In the meantime I think I'm going to learn to use free looping software on = a laptop. But that brings me to the next question=2C what mixer $350 or les= s with USB gives me the cleanest signal=2C or least ammount of latency? I'v= e use standard analogue peavy=2C alesis and others in the past with no pref= erence due to the fact that they were all quiet but I've heard nastly thing= s about Beringer's noise level.. but also due to the highly rythmic nature = of my work I need the lag to be practically non-existant. What are my best = options? =20 Thanks again for the input. :) =20 Also=2C if you want to listen to some songs I made years ago to get an unde= rstanding of where I'm coming from check out myspace.com/djsamwise . -Ryan =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 23:22:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F4D93C004; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-16.arcor-online.net 9A690257123 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1268608921; bh=/FMdVZaGppkcD6DldzJ7QJVxDiHk0G+1nw8L95/7/Pk=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To: From:Subject:Date; b=rNcfFee+oe33oLh5qbCT+2obEnU+c91t5c4Zf8uaAAMDJjo0Bh/ucdQOFvnYr2W+2 bFWGc8p47XETmHf3bJKsoO6yVniTPj/hD6b7oj2uvGyeqe22e5y3YFc4Rj6B4ZF8x6 5oe0Up//EA++d496oFJJ6wbdjnwEOHW3+iBybTx8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <99260504-5374-44C3-B24C-243E728FB2EF@arcor.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: EDP pro voltage problems Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:21:58 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm back to the list with an uncommon EDP problem that I'd like to get some feedback on. I use a blackface Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro Plus with the original analog footpedal for about one year now and I seem to have problems with it that are so infrequent and irregular that I attribute them to the condition under which it is running - be it proper grounding or maybe lack of sufficient AC power. Like on one gig of a tour in January it worked totally crazy and unpredictable, on the other four gigs it worked flawlessly....like the ghost in the haunted machine (and my haunted mind!). Has any EDP user experienced similar things? I myself have never had this with my older beige Obie before. Oh, and I'm in Europe, so it's 230/240V. On one of the rare occasions when this happended at home last week I measured 229V on my house line, which still seems reasonable (we usually have around 236V here). Thanks for your input, Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 23:53:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A70113C009; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: EDP pro voltage problems Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:51:45 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99260504-5374-44C3-B24C-243E728FB2EF@arcor.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: EDP pro voltage problems Thread-Index: AcrDzSppboWqiumQQ42g4SAW6aVFZwAA9lvA References: <99260504-5374-44C3-B24C-243E728FB2EF@arcor.de> From: "Ace Ovil" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:53:29 +0000 (UTC) I have one that acted pretty erratically and kept blowing fuses. The problem was completely resolved by sticking a furman power conditioner in the rack. I think it is just especially sensitive to surges. Hope that helps, Ace=20 -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Willers [mailto:a.willers@arcor.de]=20 Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP pro voltage problems Hi, I'm back to the list with an uncommon EDP problem that I'd like to =20 get some feedback on. I use a blackface Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro =20 Plus with the original analog footpedal for about one year now and I =20 seem to have problems with it that are so infrequent and irregular =20 that I attribute them to the condition under which it is running - be =20 it proper grounding or maybe lack of sufficient AC power. Like on one =20 gig of a tour in January it worked totally crazy and unpredictable, =20 on the other four gigs it worked flawlessly....like the ghost in the =20 haunted machine (and my haunted mind!). Has any EDP user experienced similar things? I myself have never had =20 this with my older beige Obie before. Oh, and I'm in Europe, so it's =20 230/240V. On one of the rare occasions when this happended at home =20 last week I measured 229V on my house line, which still seems =20 reasonable (we usually have around 236V here). Thanks for your input, Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 14 23:55:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 126583C007; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20100314225309.484803C007@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:55:43 -0700 References: <20100314225309.484803C007@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <6NzBKD.A.YtD.GeXnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:55:50 +0000 (UTC) krispen wrote: > "What I am trying to consider in this context is the jazz archtop > guitar. It is quite a different animal than the acoustic guitar. > For one, it projects at only about half of the volume of an > acoustic, because of the volume in the body, that it typically only > has f-holes, and that it is often strung with flat wound strings. In > that case, it tends to sound thinner than an acoustic when micing > it, which is what you don't want in a jazz guitar. So I really need > a mic that can pick up the subltles of the guitar, but probably has > a good proximity effect when it move the mic closer to the guitar. > Of course, I'll be blending the tone with the mag pickup through an > amp." I would definitely go with a large diaphragm mic for arch top, as it will achieve a broader spectrum sound than a pencil condenser mic, which is great for detail and high end definition, but won't bring out the body and fullness of an arch top. I actually prefer the sound of one large mic on the lower bout, and one small condenser mic pointed toward the fingerboard, rather than a stereo xy pattern pair of pencil condensers, as I like the extra bottom end of the big mic. I use an AT 4050 and sometimes set it to a figure 8 pattern if the room ambience is worth capturing. As Rick elaborated the 4033 is the same mic but with one element rather than two. I've been finding I really like using a large diaphragm mic on small tube amps as well, way better than the tried and true SM-57, as it really makes small amps sound huge. The truth is, there are a ton of affordable good sounding mics coming out of China right now, not just SE but MXL/ Marshall makes some decent dirt cheap mics. Will they have the longevity of an AKG or Neumann Mic? probably not, but if the sound is good who cares? Another thing you might consider if noise and bleed are an issue is getting a good speaker simulator that can be hooked up between your amp and its speaker. I use the bluestone pro made by emerson williams which is an excellent sounding compact alternative to the pricier and industry standard Palmer speaker emulator. Right now I'm recording directly using a Ethos preamp, a Vox ac 10 and a princeton reverb (both using bluestones), and even with ought adding mics, which I also do, I can get a very rich dimensional sound going direct. I but the Ethos at the center of the mix and spread the amps wide. I tell ya its like Budda... 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Ge= t personal with Windows. = --_81c1b902-82a1-4d65-a886-a6aa1694ecfa_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 01:37:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 396903C00D; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.123.197] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <20100314225309.484803C007@arsenic.violacea.com> <16237341.276.1268611233291.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <16237341.276.1268611233291.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:37:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 01:37:07.0166 (UTC) FILETIME=[05D8B7E0:01CAC3E0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Good idea, Bill. In the context of large diaphram, I may consider the Rode: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NT2A/ I have used Rode before, and I really like them...very quite. This one is Omni, Cardioid & Figure 8, which provides a lot of options. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > krispen wrote: > >> "What I am trying to consider in this context is the jazz archtop >> guitar. It is quite a different animal than the acoustic guitar. >> For one, it projects at only about half of the volume of an >> acoustic, because of the volume in the body, that it typically only >> has f-holes, and that it is often strung with flat wound strings. In >> that case, it tends to sound thinner than an acoustic when micing >> it, which is what you don't want in a jazz guitar. So I really need >> a mic that can pick up the subltles of the guitar, but probably has >> a good proximity effect when it move the mic closer to the guitar. >> Of course, I'll be blending the tone with the mag pickup through an >> amp." > > I would definitely go with a large diaphragm mic for arch top, as > it will achieve a broader spectrum sound than a pencil condenser mic, > which is great for detail and high end definition, but won't bring out > the body and fullness of an arch top. I actually prefer the sound of > one large mic on the lower bout, and one small condenser mic pointed > toward the fingerboard, rather than a stereo xy pattern pair of pencil > condensers, as I like the extra bottom end of the big mic. I use an AT > 4050 and sometimes set it to a figure 8 pattern if the room ambience > is worth capturing. As Rick elaborated the 4033 is the same mic but > with one element rather than two. I've been finding I really like > using a large diaphragm mic on small tube amps as well, way better > than the tried and true SM-57, as it really makes small amps sound > huge. The truth is, there are a ton of affordable good sounding mics > coming out of China right now, not just SE but MXL/ Marshall makes > some decent dirt cheap mics. Will they have the longevity of an AKG or > Neumann Mic? probably not, but if the sound is good who cares? > Another thing you might consider if noise and bleed are an issue is > getting a good speaker simulator that can be hooked up between your > amp and its speaker. I use the bluestone pro made by emerson williams > which is an excellent sounding compact alternative to the pricier and > industry standard Palmer speaker emulator. Right now I'm recording > directly using a Ethos preamp, a Vox ac 10 and a princeton reverb > (both using bluestones), and even with ought adding mics, which I also > do, I can get a very rich dimensional sound going direct. I but the > Ethos at the center of the mix and spread the amps wide. I tell ya its > like Budda... > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 02:39:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93E0E3C011; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <180D286B-57B9-42C0-B824-0B74BE05EFEB@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Shielding, was: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:39:35 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3uiuD.A.QgG.u3ZnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:39:42 +0000 (UTC) I have been trouble shooting a noise problem of my own recently that has finally been identified, after much consternation that I thought I'd share even though it may not be directly applicable to Krispen's recent issues. For the past several months I have had an intermittent high frequency noise issue that only manifested when I was recording 1/2 speed loops on the looperlative. I'd record content and get this High frequency whine, embedded in my loops that would go away when I toggled back to normal speed. My initial thought was it was the LP-1, but like I said this wasn't happening all the time and only at home, which made wonder if it was something else instead. Today after I got home from rehearsal I set my rig back up and started playing and looping at half speed and low and behold the whine was back. I first tried turning off the computer that wasn't in use thinking perhaps its wireless might be the culprit. Nope, The i realized my wife was in the other room, nursing a cold and watching TV. last October we switched to Direct TV. I asked her to turn off the TV and DTV router, and then recorded another loop. The noise did not re-appear!! Something in the router or dish was adding interference, and its at the opposite corner of our house. I tried the test twice to make sure. This has gotten me thinking about two things, Dish TV and microwaves in general might be causing others to have noise and interference issues., and that so much of the electric gear we use requires wall wart style power supplies which are not particularly well shielded and may be potential conduits for this type of interference. I've had other interference from time to time from neighbors with high speed power tools and a sculpture neighbor with an arc welder. So what to do?, I'm seriously considering an isolation transformer and I'm wondering if anyone might know if bunching wall warts together might perhaps increase noise issues? I've though about building a shielded box to put them all in or find some steel army surplus box to stick them in. I don't know if I'm barking up the wrong tree with that idea. I have no electronics education to speak of other than knowing not to stick a fork in to a wall socket. I also wonder if its possible to adequately shield wall warts? I'm also investigating which of the new crop of multiple power supplies from Voodoo labs Dunlop and T rex might be able to handle the higher voltage and milli amps of my rack gear that requires power supplies. I have an older pedal power plus from Voodoo that works great with my regular pedals. I'd just as soon jettison as many wall warts as I can if possible. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 02:54:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F2733C011; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.41.80.161] Reply-To: From: Ryan & Kara To: Subject: RE: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:54:51 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20100314225309.484803C007@arsenic.violacea.com> <16237341.276.1268611233291.JavaMail.root@n34>, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 02:54:51.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1E16890:01CAC3EA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:54:56 +0000 (UTC) I second this suggestion. R0de simply makes wonderful products. =20 Alernativly=2C I would say that the NT1A is perfect for the job=2C especial= ly if you don't need all the extra dirctional options. The NT1a is only car= diod. It has a very flat EQ so it's perfect for picking up all those extra = little tonal subtleties that the sure performance mics and the like filter = out naturally. This was my primary mic in several projects. At only $200 it= 's my opinion that every home studio needs at least one of these.=20 =20 -Ryan ---------------------------------------- > From: khartung@q.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic G= uitar > Date: Sun=2C 14 Mar 2010 19:37:04 -0600 > > Good idea=2C Bill. > > In the context of large diaphram=2C I may consider the Rode: > > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NT2A/ > > I have used Rode before=2C and I really like them...very quite. > > This one is Omni=2C Cardioid & Figure 8=2C which provides a lot of option= s. > > Kris > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> krispen wrote: >> >>> "What I am trying to consider in this context is the jazz archtop >>> guitar. It is quite a different animal than the acoustic guitar. >>> For one=2C it projects at only about half of the volume of an >>> acoustic=2C because of the volume in the body=2C that it typically only >>> has f-holes=2C and that it is often strung with flat wound strings. In >>> that case=2C it tends to sound thinner than an acoustic when micing >>> it=2C which is what you don't want in a jazz guitar. So I really need >>> a mic that can pick up the subltles of the guitar=2C but probably has >>> a good proximity effect when it move the mic closer to the guitar. >>> Of course=2C I'll be blending the tone with the mag pickup through an >>> amp." >> >> I would definitely go with a large diaphragm mic for arch top=2C as >> it will achieve a broader spectrum sound than a pencil condenser mic=2C >> which is great for detail and high end definition=2C but won't bring out >> the body and fullness of an arch top. I actually prefer the sound of >> one large mic on the lower bout=2C and one small condenser mic pointed >> toward the fingerboard=2C rather than a stereo xy pattern pair of pencil >> condensers=2C as I like the extra bottom end of the big mic. I use an AT >> 4050 and sometimes set it to a figure 8 pattern if the room ambience >> is worth capturing. As Rick elaborated the 4033 is the same mic but >> with one element rather than two. I've been finding I really like >> using a large diaphragm mic on small tube amps as well=2C way better >> than the tried and true SM-57=2C as it really makes small amps sound >> huge. The truth is=2C there are a ton of affordable good sounding mics >> coming out of China right now=2C not just SE but MXL/ Marshall makes >> some decent dirt cheap mics. Will they have the longevity of an AKG or >> Neumann Mic? probably not=2C but if the sound is good who cares? >> Another thing you might consider if noise and bleed are an issue is >> getting a good speaker simulator that can be hooked up between your >> amp and its speaker. I use the bluestone pro made by emerson williams >> which is an excellent sounding compact alternative to the pricier and >> industry standard Palmer speaker emulator. Right now I'm recording >> directly using a Ethos preamp=2C a Vox ac 10 and a princeton reverb >> (both using bluestones)=2C and even with ought adding mics=2C which I al= so >> do=2C I can get a very rich dimensional sound going direct. I but the >> Ethos at the center of the mix and spread the amps wide. I tell ya its >> like Budda... >> Bill >> > =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC3E9.7DF7798A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 03:10:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 419153C011; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.123.197] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <28311783.56.1268621104121.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <28311783.56.1268621104121.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Shielding, was: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:10:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 03:10:03.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[018CA360:01CAC3ED] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:10:04 +0000 (UTC) I'll try to do an experiment this week, Bill, and run my system with all the wireless routers and sattelite TV gear off. I was thinking something similar. Here at my house, we have a wireless router for internet, plus two relay routers that expand the reach. Then we have three separate wireless LAN phones, all running on different frequencies. Then we have a separate wireless system for the TV system, which connects it to the laptop, etc. Our house is a literal bath of wireless frequencies. I am wondering if all that, with my guitar mag pickup, is part of the problem. I'll let you know if the isolation transformer I bought solves the problem. Kris ----- Original Message ----- >I have been trouble shooting a noise problem of my own recently that has >finally been identified, after much consternation that I thought I'd share >even though it may not be directly applicable to Krispen's recent issues. >For the past several months I have had an intermittent high frequency >noise issue that only manifested when I was recording 1/2 speed loops on >the looperlative. I'd record content and get this High frequency whine, >embedded in my loops that would go away when I toggled back to normal >speed. My initial thought was it was the LP-1, but like I said this wasn't >happening all the time and only at home, which made wonder if it was >something else instead. Today after I got home from rehearsal I set my rig >back up and started playing and looping at half speed and low and behold >the whine was back. I first tried turning off the computer that wasn't in >use thinking perhaps its wireless might be the culprit. Nope, The i >realized my wife was in the other room, nursing a cold and watching TV. >last October we switched to Direct TV. I asked her to turn off the TV and >DTV router, and then recorded another loop. The noise did not re-appear!! >Something in the router or dish was adding interference, and its at the >opposite corner of our house. I tried the test twice to make sure. This >has gotten me thinking about two things, Dish TV and microwaves in >general might be causing others to have noise and interference issues., >and that so much of the electric gear we use requires wall wart style >power supplies which are not particularly well shielded and may be >potential conduits for this type of interference. I've had other >interference from time to time from neighbors with high speed power tools >and a sculpture neighbor with an arc welder. So what to do?, I'm >seriously considering an isolation transformer and I'm wondering if anyone >might know if bunching wall warts together might perhaps increase noise >issues? I've though about building a shielded box to put them all in or >find some steel army surplus box to stick them in. I don't know if I'm >barking up the wrong tree with that idea. I have no electronics education >to speak of other than knowing not to stick a fork in to a wall socket. I >also wonder if its possible to adequately shield wall warts? I'm also >investigating which of the new crop of multiple power supplies from Voodoo >labs Dunlop and T rex might be able to handle the higher voltage and milli >amps of my rack gear that requires power supplies. I have an older pedal >power plus from Voodoo that works great with my regular pedals. I'd just >as soon jettison as many wall warts as I can if possible. > Any suggestions would be much appreciated. > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 04:02:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96F3C3C012; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: t: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:02:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <4a4ug.A.MH.YFbnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:02:32 +0000 (UTC) The Rode would be a good choice, with the AT perhaps providing more detail, The Rode is warmer and rounder as it is more of an attempt at the old Neumann aesthetic. The AT is by comparison a bit more crisp in the high end detail which would make it more versatile perhaps if you intend to use it on anything other than an arch top like a flat top, or nylon string guitar, or amp and its very easy to simply eq out a bit of high end if needed without adding hiss, whereas adding treble boost after the fact, if for instance, the flat wound string sound was a bit too dull sounding, would potentially add some hiss. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 04:24:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ACF83C012; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <12840513-ABC1-4187-91FD-E800BAFB50B1@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Shielding, on further investigation Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:24:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Now my head really hurts, I tried some more tests to recreate the weird hum i was experiencing and realized the two instruments that were susceptible where the two with duncan mag mic active pickups in them, which also brings up the possibility that an aging 9 volt battery might be also culprit. Put if that were the case I'd probably here the high pitched whine regardless of whether I was looping or not. The difficulty is that it might be a number of things happening to cause the problem. One thing I did try the last time this happened was to put a buffer amp in the signal path which also cured the issue. Puzzling .. weird, ghosts in the machine........ And then again its probably just the ancient overworked electrical system in our house................ Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 04:33:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB3103C017; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.123.197] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <10440721.80.1268627357232.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <10440721.80.1268627357232.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Shielding, on further investigation Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:33:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 04:33:33.0448 (UTC) FILETIME=[ABC32880:01CAC3F8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Bill, we just have to go all acoustic...back to our roots. Ready? :) ----- Original Message ----- > Now my head really hurts, I tried some more tests to recreate the > weird hum i was experiencing and realized the two instruments that > were susceptible where the two with duncan mag mic active pickups in > them, which also brings up the possibility that an aging 9 volt > battery might be also culprit. Put if that were the case I'd probably > here the high pitched whine regardless of whether I was looping or > not. The difficulty is that it might be a number of things happening > to cause the problem. One thing I did try the last time this happened > was to put a buffer amp in the signal path which also cured the issue. > Puzzling .. weird, ghosts in the machine........ And then again its > probably just the ancient overworked electrical system in our > house................ > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 05:25:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC8733C005; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=gI+JoCC4d5CMfqLjUG7EXSWv2NYiFU6simtqcUhUrRc=; b=virFIbF/NTEIGMXX3AsLv+3xJ3HirhlmUgqV5K/v4a9rEbMAnXq5NeQzhbpTpgBNIU liZE7FiZwKvkm+nA8cwoMrRYiZaGIJoa5I6ZRSfekYeTa/rk7mhY730UIHaaDjhZXarh VdfnXTOTm//DHT5zoR3Pi0YrxKpzHvwFnifA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=jtb7tG14GQbZpHknX6oHCE1sMWGUICeUmKCVbko3860yvGOquxjfwAv2WLgBZdbkMw DRlb60KcKW9rDjWUpkVWiE6Cq7unr2CoztKWLfRAL1GUj5MA87NQTf/W4ubYPaMD1n4p nS2jEJCfqF3lM5PfgIQzo/4gA+sbcHBz4RkH4= Subject: Re: Shielding, was: Constant buzzing - can it be killed! Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Matthias Grob X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:24:47 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <73DF202A-F5AC-474B-81B8-F4E580EBCC04@gmail.com> References: <28311783.56.1268621104121.JavaMail.root@n34> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:25:24 +0000 (UTC) sorry, I did not read the whole story, so I may say something stupid, I = just try: - there is electrostatic and electromagnetic interference.=20 If the noise is just picked up by magnetic pickups, its the magnetic = noise and all the high frequency stuff is unlikely the problem, much = rather some big transformer, motor or wiring loop, basically a coil.=20 If a unshielded wire also picks up the noise, its electrostatic and = there are many more options of sources. - as long as you have suspects for any household machine, its easier to = just disconnect that system than typing the suspect here ;-) . you can = even try switching off whole parts of the house with the main fuses or = connect your whole system to a different part of the house with an = extension. use the narrow down strategy and eliminate options systematically.=20 this strategy can fail, though, if its a combination of noise sources. so it may be interesting to put all tests on a paper and rethink them if = nothing seems to make sense... good luck! Matthias On 15 Mar 2010, at 00:10, Kris Hartung wrote: > I'll try to do an experiment this week, Bill, and run my system with = all the wireless routers and sattelite TV gear off. I was thinking = something similar. >=20 > Here at my house, we have a wireless router for internet, plus two = relay routers that expand the reach. Then we have three separate = wireless LAN phones, all running on different frequencies. Then we have = a separate wireless system for the TV system, which connects it to the = laptop, etc. >=20 > Our house is a literal bath of wireless frequencies. I am wondering if = all that, with my guitar mag pickup, is part of the problem. >=20 > I'll let you know if the isolation transformer I bought solves the = problem. > Kris >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 >=20 >> I have been trouble shooting a noise problem of my own recently that = has finally been identified, after much consternation that I thought = I'd share even though it may not be directly applicable to Krispen's = recent issues. For the past several months I have had an intermittent = high frequency noise issue that only manifested when I was recording = 1/2 speed loops on the looperlative. I'd record content and get this = High frequency whine, embedded in my loops that would go away when I = toggled back to normal speed. My initial thought was it was the LP-1, = but like I said this wasn't happening all the time and only at home, = which made wonder if it was something else instead. Today after I got = home from rehearsal I set my rig back up and started playing and = looping at half speed and low and behold the whine was back. I first = tried turning off the computer that wasn't in use thinking perhaps its = wireless might be the culprit. Nope, The i realized my wife was in the = other room, nursing a cold and watching TV. last October we switched to = Direct TV. I asked her to turn off the TV and DTV router, and then = recorded another loop. The noise did not re-appear!! Something in the = router or dish was adding interference, and its at the opposite corner = of our house. I tried the test twice to make sure. This has gotten me = thinking about two things, Dish TV and microwaves in general might be = causing others to have noise and interference issues., and that so much = of the electric gear we use requires wall wart style power supplies = which are not particularly well shielded and may be potential conduits = for this type of interference. I've had other interference from time to = time from neighbors with high speed power tools and a sculpture = neighbor with an arc welder. So what to do?, I'm seriously considering = an isolation transformer and I'm wondering if anyone might know if = bunching wall warts together might perhaps increase noise issues? I've = though about building a shielded box to put them all in or find some = steel army surplus box to stick them in. I don't know if I'm barking = up the wrong tree with that idea. I have no electronics education to = speak of other than knowing not to stick a fork in to a wall socket. I = also wonder if its possible to adequately shield wall warts? I'm also = investigating which of the new crop of multiple power supplies from = Voodoo labs Dunlop and T rex might be able to handle the higher voltage = and milli amps of my rack gear that requires power supplies. I have an = older pedal power plus from Voodoo that works great with my regular = pedals. I'd just as soon jettison as many wall warts as I can if = possible. >> Any suggestions would be much appreciated. >> Bill >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 05:46:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242DF3C019; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qxlRQ4Vyc0XUuqxyZXEeTwMv+MB1NtZ807TSw17RyME=; b=cXKkh8JD1bZX7YzWiYn9fXlCqmNCl2E7frji1Uwq81Wn3L1J7qka48TmlsJ60F/YZZ FTkR+rOlb87fB72kuPe60Z5gf+uX8paL15p1E3aG5NYSN9hwV3XfgrPKVgA++nJhIKaE 41wLpU24H6n3s0Di9i7NQBUDjECftocDhrPWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VzI80EBwwFuvS36MMBzFG30ARGFQRwQIcQE/hWcV2I4lnRq8FYt4Y2sSzNskgVRkq0 DjoHJObeNTk04O49axmRXJnBKAKxbe4Wgl83dZRkq0Bo/wbub4+qEf2Lc3u+HcSLqZpk dXVh5l02rs0E+Asx23fQmMQODTPkSBMAZRFlw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B993827.7060105@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4B993827.7060105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:46:09 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Voltage Selector For Oberheim Echoplex From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c060e0e56b0481d065d9 Resent-Message-ID: <811WRB.A.a1B.hmcnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:46:10 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c060e0e56b0481d065d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Thanx for the help. Now i can try out my EDP without any worries that it will fry whatsoever. Not so sure about Malaysian traditional music...but anyway try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSWs9JNrFpE or type Gamelan, Keroncong, Gong, Gambus in youtube. <-- that's the local traditional instruments. Thanx again. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:36 AM, andy butler wrote: > as the Voltage from the outlet is 240V you're safe, > the cable only carries the mains voltage to the unit, and > the rating just means the cable itself is good for 250V or under. > > > andy > ps > if you have any good links for traditional Malaysian music > and feel like returning the favour please send to me off list :-) > > > halim zainal wrote: > >> Hi, >> Just wondering my EDP is now set to 240v. What happens if a 250v power >> cable is used? can it be done? will it fry my unit? Thanx. >> >> >> >> >> > --001636c5c060e0e56b0481d065d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,
Thanx for the help. Now i can try out my EDP without any worries th= at it will fry whatsoever. Not so sure about Malaysian traditional music...= but anyway try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLSWs9JNrFpE=A0=A0 or type Gamelan, K= eroncong, Gong, Gambus in youtube. <-- that's the local traditional = instruments. Thanx again.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:36 AM, andy butler= <akbutler@t= iscali.co.uk> wrote:
as the Voltage from the outlet is 240V you're safe,
the cable only carries the mains voltage to the unit, and
the rating just means the cable itself is good for 250V or under.


andy
 ps
if you have any good links for traditional Malaysian music
and feel like returning the favour please send to me off list :-)
=


halim zainal wrote:
Hi,
Just wondering my EDP is now set to 240v. What happens if a 250v power cabl= e is used? can it be done? will it fry my unit? Thanx.






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Berry From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 10:38:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D45DC3C016; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 364370928/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.139.185/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.139.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAG6qnUtPTou5/2dsb2JhbAAH0WiEewQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,642,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="364370928" Message-ID: <4B9E0E2A.5090401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:38:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Shielding, on further investigation OT References: <12840513-ABC1-4187-91FD-E800BAFB50B1@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <12840513-ABC1-4187-91FD-E800BAFB50B1@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:38:23 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > Put if that were the case I'd probably here the high > pitched whine regardless of whether I was looping or not. The difficulty > is that it might be a number of things happening to cause the problem. > One thing I did try the last time this happened was to put a buffer amp > in the signal path which also cured the issue. maybe it's too obvious to mention, but what seems to be happening is that at normal speed you're recording a signal onto the LP1 which is too high for you to hear, then the Half Speed playback makes it audible. The buffer amp cures it by filtering out the hf From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 10:40:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 669443C01C; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 364372279/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.139.185/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.139.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAJurnUtPTou5/2dsb2JhbAAH0VyEewQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,642,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="364372279" Message-ID: <4B9E0EAF.50801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:40:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP pro voltage problems References: <99260504-5374-44C3-B24C-243E728FB2EF@arcor.de> In-Reply-To: <99260504-5374-44C3-B24C-243E728FB2EF@arcor.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Andreas Willers wrote: > ....like the ghost in the haunted machine > (and my haunted mind!). > > Has any EDP user experienced similar things? only while testing Loop4 andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 12:01:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B00383C020; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 364419393/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.139.185/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.139.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAFq+nUtPTou5/2dsb2JhbAAH0WeEewQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,643,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="364419393" Message-ID: <4B9E21AC.6090400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:01:48 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <1281123.548.1268539794956.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Kris Hartung wrote: > So I really need a mic that can pick up > the subltles of the guitar, but probably has a good proximity effect > when it move the mic closer to the guitar. yep, Bill's right that a large capsule has a stronger proximity effect. ...but as you get closer to the guitar more of it's sound producing surface will go off axis...which means a large diaphragm will lose some of your hi freq details. > Of course, I'll be blending > the tone with the mag pickup through an amp. In that case, I'd be getting the low frequencies from the mag p/u, and using a small diaphragm condenser to capture some of those fine acoustic details in the high range. OR...I'd use one of the thrift shop mics from my collection of strange old dynamics. OR...I'd use a pristine stereo pair at about 18inches in front of the guitar. OR... well, I think you got the picture. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 12:43:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE5FB3C020; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:42:58 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100315124258.117340@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+zvH5v2QCzbN9vP+XX9LBJgIssb7YSK69FGs0a7c LXOax1OhfkJZPVj4StmHQ2uxgUgHdrZcLOfg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ZhmpfL9UbGInZdBtlmVnBEtvcmZ1Zlxi X-FuHaFi: 0.69999999999999996 Resent-Message-ID: <6z1BBC.A.PzB.WtinLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Ha! :) I've just spent a whole day this week-end doing exactly that! >the most important is to roll them without twisting! Yes, imo the most important piece of advice. I hate it when I borrow gear to someone and get it back with twisted cables... What I did: Rolled and sorted my cables neatly, fixing each cable with a velcro strip. Got more than a dozen boxes, labeled neatly now ("XLR cables","chinch cables","patch cables"...). Way better than all the bags and boxes I had before... best regards Buzap -- GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 13:54:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99E833C020; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 565 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:54:46 UTC Message-Id: <7vgnlk$56dt26@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,642,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="174519366" X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:45:23 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: roger Subject: storing cables Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi there I fix a piece of 2" x 1" 6fy batten to the wall and bang in 6 inch nails every 6-8 inchs. I then loop all my cables over the nails separating different cables to different nails. If I get a cable with a problem I tie a knot in it to know that it needs repairing and put it on the cable repair nail. Allows you to keep all your leads tidy in my studio for a couple of quid. When I finish a session I take all the cables and loop them over on the relevant nail regards Roger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 14:15:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71F4E3C01F; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nCu5ScyjiU83Ra+VfKOKaQJO1znXOVB+anTmzOIyR3U=; b=DXNVaqmePK+FdGdm32CApaVzK5bYhafTjJGVaWAdRdhLcNIFwZBR/K8b/tYOoPy+FI m8vr8ZPI1bfHwnxkbRHAJzSjkNLJ/uHnQ0XSa06ygd4ZcWJIyaO+2znDQb5MPZn2ercX LRLrum37wNiKbR07MD7K/k8tmrDc0m+k0u+FU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nk/uy5PdoE+wXVqJQi3NRPRHTlIS8t0WnXrjqP0UQqNyG4rodaPFxmbSUuOr9yG7Cx 7nddLlYZXAWUXJAg8bataVMnjukBeyElPcc54TBcSOsRwzO4mTxw4EMzGTMXm9mWnT+j SdHkEMuIXtIS80YtZ0jZlEcjLF/XE0VxSASFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:15:43 -0400 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b1003150715p2e35bee8ya96a5e7d931e100c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Slicer examples online.. From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Hey Warren, I use the Roland HPD15 Handsonic for just about everything. Andy G ++++++++++++++ Hey, that's pretty cool - where are the drum sounds coming from? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 17:07:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1FC53C023; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=LZhQBGDD8LEry2V2rOMaxPXbtKpW4UzDeyNO5lVzXDk=; b=fePzl/zIIxhJr8QiB5hVJQVZY9SG7le+o8bvdLeeRIOAkj1sHd6pbqf7QFnjqAp98c Sk6P3/F5nC8k++01juXMPzbHU4UQOpiRBHx2XnQwOrYvRaXPY87YEiMz8cleVIJYEZBU HqAKTbEomkhOTrXtwErAsQTLg/7Ibjz1hkI+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Miv+OZXqD9InfUGoKc9ELobYzcIq7cPVQrZgcG0TPuT3PC2CscD9ABRXAMRusaXWXs MX0RUCXrnI5pnxKiyclHecfN7n8ND++j6QNWYy3UAKY87olnp29TCjlkS2PiDW71Z5eQ 7KdUsRFNNhy5hfIVcAsZbjN/fFpYXRfqeyCxs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:35:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 688738eca1097844 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cfa82391740481d9ea13 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:07:25 +0000 (UTC) --00504502cfa82391740481d9ea13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Peter is almost never IN the office these days!! Mark On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > (here we go again) > > Mooooo > > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: > > > > > > I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2010 and will not return until > 03/19/2010. > > For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg > Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. > > ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any > documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged > and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the > addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended > addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, > disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of > this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may > result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender > advising of the error in transmission and immediately > delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank > you.***** > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00504502cfa82391740481d9ea13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter is almost never IN the office these days!!

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(here we go again)

Mooooo



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--00504502cfa82391740481d9ea13-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 17:11:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 389793C02A; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pSF8TmntBZ7kPIgiN6okSqv0tAaj8LMEfxMDX5+4tdI=; b=JeQouzGB6qoKe3xLDoDXJMw+YBClZrq7eKK9Zo8VzwHJXiJA+dMbUe6GemsWXd3Ts1 b6aUAV/6O9BihsKFYBntOqstLs+LbtB5uSStQ7l1DlrTQ4ygs8OwRn31phaCIReFuixc UwsXK6p3YEZ7hWx3dijtnt39lVIcTMqwvdlIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=inZ/HLH4FPYyHj3D623j12ONVSqwj8FIkGz23PpVw5bARGRxuJ/OB3mRI/oocrMfwR 5BcI1N+tJKOlGR0d7S9Ze4/8o0Vy8ZWSktUNV4hOzrX9oneLDBYqy2nDPRdBySopT3MG jv/BX4LuZipUpwgwcq39tyb9AQhibdZCMoTHE= Message-ID: <4B9E6A39.3060806@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:11:21 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:11:14 +0000 (UTC) looppool@cruzio.com schrieb: > The microphones that we won the NAIRD Instrumental Album of the YEar award in > 1998 for Martin Simpson's album "Cool and Unusual" > were an ATM 4050 and a Neumann K18 Rick, I remember that we discussed the AT4050 on the drive to...what was it? San José? Oakland? back in 2006, and we both confessed how happy we were with it...however: Is there a shock mount which fits the AT4050 and is available at a reasonable price (and where, contrary to the original AT4050 design, you can actually exchange the rubber strings?) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 17:27:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD6103C02A; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z+H+FDBBNve6QpOGMb+G76Pi94JdnRZzMnuGZjVvJJY=; b=haOhGsOGbRGLujDTnaAqDr/8YyjHqbypUs90tqxFedVnC8K7qJXqQkiqXWpIrSNZIo rYUBHOTupJ7cKHKZXh/agS/4Muc4+jXLWRT6E51ni5uWSU5XSbVQSHShkJGjvJiW0OqB uJSstPmWlHh4wDyqlAuQ6obalXJh3+6MQHBj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EhxqpKxY+MgLlwsmt/NKh5uy7SXYBFAiPrvZCotKe+Ob/Tpb0D9Q2AEQbmaMcG8L4b KWkbY2KJy4Lknk35sOd5MgCi00bCdW4vSYlAHNi/2nJ3irswzCk5bzM2uORVFhWGshzR mzqKGkmXcNEm61b69WO6Dy/NtDupJ9vbOBNOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:27:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab056622ba50481da32cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:27:38 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab056622ba50481da32cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I feel slightly "issued" 2010/3/12 mark francombe > Peter is almost never IN the office these days!! > > Mark > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens < > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> (here we go again) >> >> Mooooo >> >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2010 and will not return >> until >> 03/19/2010. >> >> For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg >> Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. >> >> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >> documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >> and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >> addressee(s) named above. 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2010/3= /12 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
Peter is almost never IN the office these days!!

Mark


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 = at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com<= /a>> wrote:
(here we go again)

Mooooo


On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wr= ote:





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Just mentioning that for completeness, but the frequency response chart alone is not a good measurement of how a microphone sounds. A lot of the characteristics of several great mics cannot even be guessed by looking at the frequency response. And with that comes the fact that only a few of the (expensive) manufacturers actually name the test conditions used for plotting those charts... To add some of my .02 to this discussion: 1. +1 for the AT4050 as a great all-around microphone. 2. Typically, a multi-pattern microphone is a little bit of a cheat: the "omni" is not a true omni but rather a combination of two cardioids. So you still have proximity effect. Buggers. (I like omni recordings very much). 3. I both have Rode NT-1A (a pair) and the older NT-1, the latter one is what I use a lot for hihat and similar "noise sources", because to me it feels warmer. 4. Why not consider something which is not a condenser microphone, perhaps in addition to a (small diaphragm) condenser? Like a Coles ribbon, or a Beyer M201 moving coil? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 17:39:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A609F3C02A; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAC466.69135175" Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. 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From: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:28 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. =20 I feel slightly "issued" 2010/3/12 mark francombe Peter is almost never IN the office these days!! Mark =20 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: (here we go again) =20 Mooooo =20 =20 Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com =20 =20 =20 On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: =20 =20 =20 =20 I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2010 and will not return until 03/19/2010. =20 For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. =20 ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. 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What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC466.69135175 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Am I the “intended = addressee/recipient” ?

I wouldn’t want to break any rules = here.

From:= Petri = Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:28 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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I feel slightly "issued"

2010/3/12 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>

Peter is almost never IN the office these = days!!

Mark

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens = <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

(here we go again)

 

Mooooo

 

 

 

On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote:



 

 

 

 

I will be out of the office starting  = 03/12/2010 and will not return until

03/19/2010.

 

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC466.69135175-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 17:40:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 633F63C037; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I2IBCpktAXl1GkbMBJdnorrcETODWGn4PjtIcv1E4uw=; b=GSfdXJ447MscsjgBcx7vxtmGlDYhKYs+6jXKEagHomRbjh2//JPviSM1nrf/cnRvbA w8jeEvPxGDK8TlN2S5XW/0bomzA4CQU4ih2r52fQlJRiYbxCX0153/DKOdl/7+q3cIZL YpYONrd12RF/g2M3xHUkuxjXCB7bg9OIbHtLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JL0sfAoktVgX6VEKkNGWE2eISllmhGbWgJkBLQtIboDmNRafqUxao1GCSkgwZDZ3Jl eTRtlte3AOf+Zqx19Yg8ZGrh98ckI/v+afvuj2pvjSr4fRVZ5PnZQmly/bE8IIFOm+s4 huefXCtD5rA44A8ZeD20nSCpLFTOqSq2xqpC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:40:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e656b5989900770481da61c8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:40:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016e656b5989900770481da61c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well, thats what all we think about... ;-D 2010/3/15 Ace Ovil > Am I the =93intended addressee/recipient=94 ? > > I wouldn=92t want to break any rules here. > > *From:* Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, March 15, 2010 1:28 PM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. > > > > I feel slightly "issued" > > 2010/3/12 mark francombe > > Peter is almost never IN the office these days!! > > Mark > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens < > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > > (here we go again) > > > > Mooooo > > > > > > Matt Stevens > > www.mattstevensguitar.com > > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > > > On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2010 and will not return unti= l > > 03/19/2010. > > > > For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg > > Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. > > > > ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any > > documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged > > and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the > > addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended > > addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, > > disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of > > this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may > > result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender > > advising of the error in transmission and immediately > > delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank > > you.***** > > > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0016e656b5989900770481da61c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well, thats what all we think about...

;-D

2010/3/15 Ace Ovil <aovil@wfubmc.edu>

Am I the =93intended addressee/recipient=94 ?

I wouldn=92t want to break any rules here.

From:= Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gm= ail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:28 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.

=A0

I feel slightly "issued"

2010/3/12 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>

Peter is almost never IN the office these days!!

Mark

=A0

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens <mattste= vensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

(here we go again)

=A0

Mooooo

=A0

=A0

=A0

On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsuranc= e.com wrote:



=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

I will be out of the office starting=A0 03/12/2010 a= nd will not return until

03/19/2010.

=A0

For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferen= cing contact Greg

Bouffard @ 323 932 3793.

=A0

***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message = and any

documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged

and/or confidential information and is intended sole= ly for the

addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intende= d

addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that an= y use of,

disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on th= e contents of

this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibit= ed and may

result in legal action against you. Please reply to = the sender

advising of the error in transmission and immediatel= y

delete/destroy the message and any accompanying docu= ments. Thank

you.***** =A0

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"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Rober= t Fripp-
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"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-




--
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http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.c= om/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--0016e656b5989900770481da61c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 18:32:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42DB53BE85; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.123.197] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <21151438.206.1268673361590.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <21151438.206.1268673361590.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:31:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 18:32:07.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[D18BCD40:01CAC46D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:32:09 +0000 (UTC) This one, I take it: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/93680-REG/Audio_Technica_AT4050_AT4050_Studio_Mic.html#features There is no "M" in the model. That through me off at first. This is similar to the Rode I mentioned, in that it offers all omni, caratoid, and figure 8. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar looppool@cruzio.com schrieb: > The microphones that we won the NAIRD Instrumental Album of the YEar award > in > 1998 for Martin Simpson's album "Cool and Unusual" > were an ATM 4050 and a Neumann K18 Rick, I remember that we discussed the AT4050 on the drive to...what was it? San José? Oakland? back in 2006, and we both confessed how happy we were with it...however: Is there a shock mount which fits the AT4050 and is available at a reasonable price (and where, contrary to the original AT4050 design, you can actually exchange the rubber strings?) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 18:33:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 178383BE92; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.123.197] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <21151438.206.1268673361590.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <21151438.206.1268673361590.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:33:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 18:33:25.0175 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF927C70:01CAC46D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Any comments on this? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574748-REG/Audio_Technica_ATM350CW_ATM350_HI_Intensity_Microphone_with.html#specifications For live this would be ideal...less feedback. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 19:01:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 185B03BE87; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/GMEZKoeDJQS6b6G12xkhQuJ3v9qzYVm/PB9XmOy7X0=; b=U9s/f6HWPBxmj6MZRskStLVZ6L6oL02O+lWLrBIrUtJU0twTUbhgMWYv8Uwfrftjct W8yEyyek8UT94HjuuBrXagY8Pk19yZTQ9CcBuf4Jt1eYX4SGltTNzhV9q4dBQVeVJu9v XF89HLXOX7uGuqirxoDig008ZnYXot4s/SXek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HfTo3Zpcfp+tab+4ImMa6sFTGVvvqPTtOntG6v6eWZ64sIFFF9il5fWS1bLelnQPgO RDN+yChqw3+knBEtSxljxlTQrnrbpgFSF5bUhiO0R3ojNJiV/0C7QkVHjy3ILepBMbSi lRn0dd/1QCfxcS9XRApMj5Gm2Uk0Zw+xTCL3k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:01:19 -0400 Message-ID: <2fb9e4731003151201j2309d461u351fe4667b6909a3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Clint Allen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab093a646c60481db8118 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:01:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab093a646c60481db8118 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I seriously came close to grabbing peterleinhosisoutoftheoffice.com so that this could live on forever, but underwelmed myself with a lack of creative possibilities.... Anyone? Clint Allen On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > well, thats what all we think about... > > ;-D > > 2010/3/15 Ace Ovil > > Am I the =93intended addressee/recipient=94 ? >> >> I wouldn=92t want to break any rules here. >> >> *From:* Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, March 15, 2010 1:28 PM >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Subject:* Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. >> >> >> >> I feel slightly "issued" >> >> 2010/3/12 mark francombe >> >> Peter is almost never IN the office these days!! >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens < >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> (here we go again) >> >> >> >> Mooooo >> >> >> >> >> >> Matt Stevens >> >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2010 and will not return unt= il >> >> 03/19/2010. >> >> >> >> For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg >> >> Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. >> >> >> >> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >> >> documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >> >> and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >> >> addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended >> >> addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, >> >> disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of >> >> this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may >> >> result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender >> >> advising of the error in transmission and immediately >> >> delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank >> >> you.***** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen >> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp= - >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." >> -Charles Bukowski- >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > --=20 Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering --0016e6dab093a646c60481db8118 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I seriously came close to grabbing peterleinhosisoutoftheoffice.com so that this could li= ve on forever, but underwelmed myself with a lack of creative possibilities= ....
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Anyone?
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Clint Allen
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=A0
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Petri Lahtinen = <aikuinen@gmail.= com> wrote:
well, thats what all we think ab= out...

;-D

2010/3/15 Ace Ovil <aovil@wfubmc.edu>=20

Am I the =93intended addressee/recipient=94 ?

I wouldn=92t want to break any rules here.

From:<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:28 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Lei= nhos, Peter is out of the office.

=A0

I feel slightly "= issued"

2010/3/12 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>

Peter is almost never IN the office these days!!
=
Mark

=A0

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens <mattste= vensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

(here we go again)

=A0

Mooooo

=A0

=A0

=A0

On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsuranc= e.com wrote:



=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

I will be out of the office starting=A0 03/12/2010 a= nd will not return until

03/19/2010.

=A0

For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferen= cing contact Greg

Bouffard @ 323 932 3793.

=A0

***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message = and any

documents accompanying this transmission may contain= privileged

and/or confidential information and is intended sole= ly for the

addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intende= d

addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that an= y use of,

disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on th= e contents of

this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibit= ed and may

result in legal action against you. Please reply to = the sender

advising of the error in transmission and immediatel= y

delete/destroy the message and any accompanying docu= ments. Thank

you.***** =A0

=A0

=A0



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http://vimeo.com/= user825094
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=
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Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/<= /a>
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http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.= bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://w= ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.= bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-



--
Clint E= . Allen
* Technology Consultant
* Sound Engineering
--0016e6dab093a646c60481db8118-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 19:02:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 941613BE85; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5ebcc66a498b44cf26bab2579c1f4d67.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20100315025457.3E8503C017@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20100315025457.3E8503C017@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Kris Hartung" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Hey Kris, I would advise you NOT to use the Rhode NT2a for your guitar micing purposes. I own it and the ATM 4033 and the detail on the 4033 is VASTLY better......no comparison. The Rhode, oddly enough, and though it lacks detail is a wonderful vocal mic.......it's make human voice sound very natural. Kris wrote about micing an archtop guitar: " In the context of large diaphram, I may consider the Rode NT2a" For what it's worth, the Guitarist/Harpist Bruce Abrams and I will be trying out the SE1a (pencil condenser) and the ATM 4033 in contrast with a Neumann KM84 and and the same ATM 4033 this coming week. I'll post the subjective results of our listening experience when we do From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 19:04:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B42D03BE8C; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6UvzP2uYeMbWvNWLio6ftITxbttG1EU08k+RpKfNHkY=; b=vftYgLv6HWcvH6HpXusg7xGBQsP0/kvRsWUO7p6w1ttoUSL63C/erxFR3W/2zbkQq+ JwmsGdQefDa+vZjBSD22xlrjPCIs1M41RM2W2HSTk4G2paaMnhLuiodGA51X6loCllXA qGmnQ9Rbid4mQ9TFQB8IKvY91sF+GxywTC78s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JVz/gYW+DKnOQyRA9TLRh6Mk2vWDsx205kGAUqcawFudL8VH5lxWRWjx4/yAcdP0tw gUIilTrtG0tAtpZh35vfkvGIvckcpmrxTMNOSOrVgmEclA9hF4SwAcq4M33ehV3ppHoH trPMPuallcoXQVAKbdaWiYvvI6eTTY5ubyZt8= Message-ID: <4B9E84C7.1030902@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:04:39 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <21151438.206.1268673361590.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Kris Hartung schrieb: > Any comments on this? > > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574748-REG/Audio_Technica_ATM350CW_ATM350_HI_Intensity_Microphone_with.html#specifications > Now if you're looking for something to be mounted on the instrument, here's another suggestion: http://bit.ly/clWljp (never tried that - I just love Beyer microphones). -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 19:09:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04BEC3BE89; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100315174050.A306B3C03B@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20100315174050.A306B3C03B@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Rainer Straschill" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Rainer wrote: > I remember that we discussed the AT4050 on the drive to...what was it? > San José? Oakland? back in 2006, and we both confessed how happy we were > with it...however: > > Is there a shock mount which fits the AT4050 and is available at a > reasonable price (and where, contrary to the original AT4050 design, you > can actually exchange the rubber strings?) The ATM4050 and the ATM4033 both ship with a very nice shock mount. I just bought the ATM 4033 so I know it does and assume that the much pricier 4050 does too, Bill, can you weigh in on this? You own the 4050. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 19:28:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 121DE3BE8E; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.123.197] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <20100315025457.3E8503C017@arsenic.violacea.com> <20435088.433.1268680025545.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <20435088.433.1268680025545.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:28:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 19:28:10.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5800A10:01CAC475] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rick, I will definitely follow your advise. But what is the ATM 4033? I do a search on that and can't find it. This this page: http://www.audio-technica.com/cgi-bin/product_search/gen/gen.pl Are you testing a discontinued mic? Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Kris Hartung" Cc: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Hey Kris, I would advise you NOT to use the Rhode NT2a for your guitar micing purposes. I own it and the ATM 4033 and the detail on the 4033 is VASTLY better......no comparison. The Rhode, oddly enough, and though it lacks detail is a wonderful vocal mic.......it's make human voice sound very natural. Kris wrote about micing an archtop guitar: " In the context of large diaphram, I may consider the Rode NT2a" For what it's worth, the Guitarist/Harpist Bruce Abrams and I will be trying out the SE1a (pencil condenser) and the ATM 4033 in contrast with a Neumann KM84 and and the same ATM 4033 this coming week. I'll post the subjective results of our listening experience when we do From enquiry_boa@discuz.org Mon Mar 15 19:41:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 24533 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:41:26 UTC Received: from mail.apex.com.my (mail.apex.com.my [210.19.31.170]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDBF3BE70; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.apex.com.my (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6431BC56FC; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:51:17 +0800 (MYT) Received: from mail.apex.com.my ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07202-09; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:51:17 +0800 (MYT) Received: from User (unknown [41.222.192.84]) by mail.apex.com.my (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30F81BA8C8F; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:59:27 +0800 (MYT) Reply-To: From: "Bank Of Africa" Subject: Dear Beneficiary, Your Visa Card Is Now Ready Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:00:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20100311155927.C30F81BA8C8F@mail.apex.com.my> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at apex.com.my Dear Beneficiary Having reviewed all the obstacles and problems surrounding the transfer of your (($2.7 Million) Two Million Seven Hundred and United States Dollars and your inability to meet up with some charges levied against you due to the past transfer options,we the Board of Directors, Bank Of Africa (BOA) have ordered our Foreign Payment Remittance Unit to issue you a VISA CARD where your payment will be uploaded. 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Finally, for security reasons, and considering the huge amount the ATM Card contains, the package was coded thus, Registraion Ref: Skyex/atm/100. This is the code number that you will send to the courier company while contacting them, and the courier company is not aware what the content of the package is. We told them that it contained some very vital official documents being sent to an offshore staff.Do not reveal the content of the package to the courier company or any body for security purposes. The information of the courier company is here-by given below, 1. Your full name: 2. Your physical address 3. Your house phone: 4. Your cellphone: Sky Courier And Delivery Company Email:( skyexcourier1@cooltoad.com ) Please hurry now as your package might incurr demurrage if it stays more than 3 days with Sky-Express You can contact me through this Email, paul.williams77@discuz.org Thanks, Dr. Paul Williams ATM Department Manager Bank Of Africa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 19:47:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C502E3BE7E; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uCm7AbDkyzJj0w9GtudOj4EzEEaHaDKMk82XQPLLqio=; b=fyvAHHyEzCCIWGZn2iQjs/g/XQSzfhbtSnBTErQmwqME7kWWL8rnCc4CVIp62zZ5Iv 51h29i9aen9OOuw9NmazzjFVVW4mPxMNHzZub7bj5cKyTJRMjCSGZWKethKSKw0e38gY V7rsFD9JphGTPKkiNy0sl5nognZ2FN2gwFFoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iqp+Aypi835WQ5sEo7g/JAQrEYBbFB+TX8xeIk1Kj2t+0Hc2Pi0o5ich7DhSBHljJT MRDp4d95ybzcryY7n137EIlhYwV2K1ki61E5tnYP+y907Bz0GOODdG+ohMcxYHmOu2SO cKYUBBOL2IaPpzkMPCIBQBez+M44WWsZ56t1o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2fb9e4731003151201j2309d461u351fe4667b6909a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> <2fb9e4731003151201j2309d461u351fe4667b6909a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:47:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58f7fe2d9a20481dc2582 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:47:17 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58f7fe2d9a20481dc2582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm considering a piece of looping music under a title, "Leinhos, Peter is out of the office."would that be a catchy title of a son= g or WHAT? -Petri- 2010/3/15 Clint Allen > I seriously came close to grabbing peterleinhosisoutoftheoffice.com so > that this could live on forever, but underwelmed myself with a lack of > creative possibilities.... > > Anyone? > > Clint Allen > > > > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote= : > >> well, thats what all we think about... >> >> ;-D >> >> 2010/3/15 Ace Ovil >> >> Am I the =93intended addressee/recipient=94 ? >>> >>> I wouldn=92t want to break any rules here. >>> >>> *From:* Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 15, 2010 1:28 PM >>> >>> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. >>> >>> >>> >>> I feel slightly "issued" >>> >>> 2010/3/12 mark francombe >>> >>> Peter is almost never IN the office these days!! >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens < >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: >>> >>> (here we go again) >>> >>> >>> >>> Mooooo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Matt Stevens >>> >>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>> >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2010 and will not return >>> until >>> >>> 03/19/2010. >>> >>> >>> >>> For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg >>> >>> Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. >>> >>> >>> >>> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >>> >>> documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >>> >>> and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >>> >>> addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended >>> >>> addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, >>> >>> disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of >>> >>> this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may >>> >>> result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender >>> >>> advising of the error in transmission and immediately >>> >>> delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank >>> >>> you.***** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >>> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Petri Lahtinen >>> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >>> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >>> http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen >>> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >>> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Frip= p- >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." >>> -Charles Bukowski- >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen >> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp= - >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." >> -Charles Bukowski- >> >> > > > -- > Clint E. Allen > * Technology Consultant > * Sound Engineering > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0016e6d58f7fe2d9a20481dc2582 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm considering a piece of looping music under a title,

"Leinhos, Peter is out of the= =20 office."

would that be a catchy title of a song or WHAT?
-Petri-

2010/3/15 Clint Allen <clint.allen@gmail.= com>
I seriously = came close to grabbing peterleinhosisoutoftheoffice.com so that this could l= ive on forever, but underwelmed myself with a lack of creative possibilitie= s....
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Anyone?
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Clint Allen
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=A0
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Petri Lahtinen = <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
well, thats what = all we think about...

;-D

2010/3/15 Ace Ovil <aovil@wfubmc.edu>=20

Am I the =93intended addressee/recipient=94 ?

I wouldn=92t want to break any rules here.

From:= Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]
Sent:<= /b> Monday, March 15, 2010 1:28 PM


To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: R= e: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.

=A0

I feel slightly "= ;issued"

2010/3/12 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>

Peter is almost never IN the office these days!!
=
Mark

=A0

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Stevens <mattste= vensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

(here we go again)

=A0

Mooooo

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=A0

=A0

On 12 Mar 2010, at 16:50, peter.leinhos@farmersinsuranc= e.com wrote:



=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

I will be out of the office starting=A0 03/12/2010 a= nd will not return until

03/19/2010.

=A0

For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferen= cing contact Greg

Bouffard @ 323 932 3793.

=A0

***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message = and any

documents accompanying this transmission may contain= privileged

and/or confidential information and is intended sole= ly for the

addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intende= d

addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that an= y use of,

disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on th= e contents of

this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibit= ed and may

result in legal action against you. Please reply to = the sender

advising of the error in transmission and immediatel= y

delete/destroy the message and any accompanying docu= ments. Thank

you.***** =A0

=A0

=A0



--
www.markfrancombe= .com
www.or= doabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/=
http://w= ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.= bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.comhttp://p= etrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://w= ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.= bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-



--
Clint E. Allen
* Technology Consultant
* Sound Engin= eering



--
Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.petrilahtinen.com=
http://petrilahtinen.blo= gspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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--0016e6d58f7fe2d9a20481dc2582-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 20:10:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D62703BE81; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3618 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:10:44 UTC Message-id: <4B9E861C.2080306@Verizon.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:10:20 -0400 From: Dan Ash User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: Shielding, on further investigation Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6_0XDB.A.2_D.ERpnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:10:44 +0000 (UTC) I have had some success with the EB Tech 'Hum Eliminator' which can isolate two channels. It's relatively inexpensive and there is an 8-channel version, too. Biggest bang-for-the-buck: I lifted the ground in my laptop power supply. You obviously would NOT want to do this except for a laptop.... Dan Ash White Plains, NY Play what you don't know. -Miles Davis > On 3/10/10 9:28 PM, "Kris Hartung" > wrote: > > Is there anything, anything that you can put in between a power > outlet and your gear to prevent buzzing? It is driving me up the > wall. I literally can't record because of it. It comes out of my > amps by itself, my computer with guitar plugged into it directly, > etc. It is not my guitar cables, or the ground in the guitar. I > have eliminated these as the source. It is most definitely caused > within the circuit of the wiring in my house. I have no reastat > light controllers in my basement, which was the cause of the noise > when I was upstairs, but turned them off. There has to be > something, or this will me insane. > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 20:11:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7201F3BE88; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:11:14 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0027dd09-8fa3-46aa-9e97-c07975cff53e_" X-Originating-IP: [205.232.191.16] From: Bryan Doring To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:06:11 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 20:06:13.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6541440:01CAC47A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:11:14 +0000 (UTC) --_0027dd09-8fa3-46aa-9e97-c07975cff53e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe = --_0027dd09-8fa3-46aa-9e97-c07975cff53e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe

= --_0027dd09-8fa3-46aa-9e97-c07975cff53e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 20:12:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 875213BE87; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_131a1bca-4435-4fc4-acfb-4202296ca2e5_" X-Originating-IP: [205.232.191.16] From: Bryan Doring To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:07:36 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,<9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com>,,,,<2fb9e4731003151201j2309d461u351fe4667b6909a3@mail.gmail.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 20:07:36.0136 (UTC) FILETIME=[27CEB480:01CAC47B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:12:37 +0000 (UTC) --_131a1bca-4435-4fc4-acfb-4202296ca2e5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe = --_131a1bca-4435-4fc4-acfb-4202296ca2e5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe = = --_131a1bca-4435-4fc4-acfb-4202296ca2e5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 20:14:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8AB63BE94; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2f4Xdg7IU2jIByQCTjBu23s9+gB9zhyAyZtxZd7cizA=; b=QoaKlSOGKp5YsUkCrIXOMZ6PUCpbMbkquokG8BdeyYfs/FC6MYfHf3p87lIPotkcsx ooBbUG040pO2TE3o6vJ6j7rK81qjBYIjDkV7J9dm/OwB3tlwqFo0scR4BpZmvyv4V3bi kvPExMNKajWCSW/Kt3YDf3Uy4SVPFcfzNanR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DW+M1gKToG3elkFIqauB3fId42a5rpSdNpHlnZuK4wunq7/pCN8RhccowLWW9QgU3j 2g3oErfmlQHV00zEXMleubSOzXvY7XLtIGlubI9LmreYZvaqZwM41YoF36SSlfBlM55d U9vwWQxT0qRXYgnhS6ovHnWFIAH0zAZMQsGSQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64ca6d48b412f0481dc855d Resent-Message-ID: <7ytsS.A.eQE.JUpnLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:14:01 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64ca6d48b412f0481dc855d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Bryan Doring wrote: > unsubscribe > > Here's how to unsubscribe: First, ask the list owner to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. $29.95 + shipping. Then follow these directions. The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large "X" outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the connection point until you feel it lock. The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate by pressing the blue button. The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button. The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the Cin-Eliminator to its storage position. You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator. If the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has not been properly implemented. Press the "List Guy" call button on the right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control panel. To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a "Shower seal" button. Press to activate. A green light will then be illuminated immediately below. On the intensity knob, select the desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe normally. The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you activate the "Manual off" override switch by flipping it up. When you are ready to leave, press the blue "Shower seal" release button. The door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and place them in their container. If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue button. When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A & B. The knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low, medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested. After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by switching to the "ON" position the clearly marked red switch. If during the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the "manual off" override switch in the "OFF" position. You may now make the change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you. -- -==-=-=- Tony --0016e64ca6d48b412f0481dc855d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Bryan D= oring <kiddop= ail@hotmail.com> wrote:
unsubscribe


Here's how to unsubscribe:

First, ask the list owner to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. =A0 $29.95 + sh= ipping.
Then follow these directions.

The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on
requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating
System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be
dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have
fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large "X&qu= ot;
outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the
connection point until you feel it lock.

The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the
small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its
initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect.
Place the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear.
Activate by pressing the blue button.

The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red
release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be
adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release
button. The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press
the green button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and
returns the Cin-Eliminator to its storage position.

You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator.
If the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator
requirements has not been properly implemented. Press the "List Guy&qu= ot;
call button on the right of the evaporator . He will secure all
facilities from his control panel.

To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in
the clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet
immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you.
On the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a
"Shower seal" button. Press to activate. A green light will then = be
illuminated immediately below. On the intensity knob, select the
desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe
normally.

The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless
you activate the "Manual off" override switch by flipping it up. = When
you are ready to leave, press the blue "Shower seal" release butt= on.
The door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro
slippers and place them in their container.

If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue
button. When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A & B. The
knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low,
medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested.

After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by
switching to the "ON" position the clearly marked red switch. If<= br> during the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings,
place the "manual off" override switch in the "OFF" pos= ition. You may
now make the change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light
goes on, you may log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind
you.


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Tony
--0016e64ca6d48b412f0481dc855d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 20:31:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A31A53BEAE; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:31:40 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f1c99858-de5e-4f25-9304-550c746358c8_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: guitar setups Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:26:39 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> References: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 20:26:39.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1994780:01CAC47D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:31:40 +0000 (UTC) --_f1c99858-de5e-4f25-9304-550c746358c8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C Erdem. I tested the Nighttrain at a local music store and REALLY liked it -althoug= h it doesn't have reverb. My initial reasoning was the easy portability giv= en some of the very tight spots my band plays in. But the sound is great -t= ried it thru the Vox 112 cab. I came close to getting this from Musicians F= riend for somewhere around $700 -800 dollars but then found a Fender Blues = Jr. in brand new condition for a whole lot less and went that route. Now I = have reverb. J.D.Devros Portland OR =20 From: erdemhel@tnn.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: guitar setups Date: Sat=2C 13 Mar 2010 15:25:40 +0200 hi to all=2C =20 these days i have been producing mostly pop and rock bands=2C acts. i have = the marshall jmp 2000 head. i would like to buy the new vox nighttrain head= . would like to record with it using a speaker simulator like the palmer sp= eaker simulator. any used it? what are your opinions? =20 http://www.palmergear.com/pdi03.shtml =20 also i would like to buy a new electric bass guitar to use within the genre= s of soul=2C r and b=2C pop=2C rock=2C dance=2C electronica... what would y= ou recommend for that? fender=2C musicman? =20 thanks a lot as always and best regards from istanbul. =20 erdem h. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/= --_f1c99858-de5e-4f25-9304-550c746358c8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C Erdem.
I tested the Nighttrain at a local music store and REALLY liked it -althoug= h it doesn't have =3Breverb. My initial reasoning was the easy portabil= ity given some of the very tight spots my band plays in. But the sound is g= reat -tried it thru the Vox 112 cab. I came close to getting this from Musi= cians Friend for somewhere around $700 -800 dollars but then found a Fender= Blues Jr. in brand new condition for a whole lot less and went that route.= Now I have reverb.
J.D.Devros
Portland OR
 =3B
From: erdemhel@tnn.net
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subjec= t: guitar setups
Date: Sat=2C 13 Mar 2010 15:25:40 +0200

hi to all=2C
 =3B
these days i have been producing mostly po= p and rock bands=2C acts. i have the marshall jmp 2000 head. i would like t= o buy the new vox nighttrain head. would like to record with it using a spe= aker simulator like the palmer speaker simulator. any used it? what are you= r opinions?
 =3B
 =3B
also i would like to buy a new electric ba= ss guitar to use within the genres of soul=2C r and b=2C pop=2C rock=2C dan= ce=2C electronica... =3Bwhat would you recommend for that? fender=2C mu= sicman?
 =3B
thanks a lot as always and best regards fr= om istanbul.
 =3B
erdem h.

Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. Si= gn up now. = --_f1c99858-de5e-4f25-9304-550c746358c8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 20:41:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 031663BEA9; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.41.80.161] Reply-To: From: Ryan & Kara To: Subject: Help.. Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:41:54 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com>, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 20:41:54.0432 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2A5C000:01CAC47F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Why are my messages all getting rejected? =20 I'm a subscriber I promise! :) Help! =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 20:57:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EEC43BE7C; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.41.80.161] Reply-To: From: Ryan & Kara To: Subject: Guitar mics 2cents Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:52:18 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com>, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 20:52:18.0190 (UTC) FILETIME=[666FAAE0:01CAC481] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:57:01 +0000 (UTC) OOH! It works now.. how odd.=20 Appologies. And for the guitar mic question.. t wo very reliable and cost effective mics that I reccomend for every home-st= udio enthusiast are=20 =20 1. R0de NT1a (cardioid condener)- The cleanest=2C flatest=2C most cost-effe= ctive=2C well built microphone. I absolutely and whole heartedly adore thes= e microphones=2C especially when you want to make sure the entire EQ spectr= um is prepresented in a recording. The perfect mic at $200 hands down. I us= e this mostly for accoustic recording.=20 =20 2. Shure sm-57 (classic dynamic) - it has a great sound for drums and instr= uments=2C picks up a little too much for some people's vocals but it's buil= t like a rock=2C can be found in every studio on earth and has been on the = president's podium for half a decade. I use this mostly for live banjo/cong= a reinforcement but frequently for percussion/string recording. It's cheap = at $70-$80 but should be a first purchase in my opinion because you don't h= ave to worry about fixing the EQ=2C it's naturally EQ'd perectly for most i= nstrument home recording setups.=20 =20 Either of these would do fine to pick up just about any stringed instrument= . You'd have to experiment with placement with both to get the best sounds = though. -Ryan =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 21:02:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97DFD3BE91; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.41.80.161] Reply-To: From: Ryan & Kara To: Subject: Mixer selection - advice? Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:02:35 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC>, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 21:02:35.0621 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6742950:01CAC482] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Hello.. Thanks to everyone who previously offered advice on which looper to= pursue. =20 With my way of doing things I narrowed it down to a looperlative=2C echople= x=2C repeater or software. I think I will go with software while saving up = for the hardware. =20 Which brings me to my next question.. =20 I'm considering getting a USB mixer as my front line of attack. =20 Has anyone had any expereience with a Yamaha MG166c-usb (or cx-usb)? I thin= k I like the idea of built in compression and built in sound card. =20 I have two concerns though =20 1. I previously (when first getting into home studio stuff a while back) us= ed an external soundblaster audigy going into cubase vst (and later SX) whi= ch gave me terrible lag (on auio and midi) no matter what I did. I would up with several midiman (m-audio) sound cards which worked extremel= y well because they were PCI. I've never had any good experience with USB b= ased audio. Can anyone here confirm or supress my fears of great latency wi= th this gear? =20 2. I'm woried about the sample rate producing low-quality sounds. Again=2C = any thoughts? =20 Thanks a bunch! Oh and if anyone wants to hear the style I produce and woul= d like to bring to the looping table check out www.myspace.com/djsamwise th= e genre is christian/electronic/folkrock. =20 Jam on! -Ryan =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your = inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 21:25:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 420F73BEA2; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/lvMCux0QkxqwER4e9OsG9J56KB3jOOUFGFp103pOzI=; b=hHNWAamTv9P314pk2G109tJkelsIviQ8fAE5J5JneY1t2vn/AnjkX9b9l/wXUiut1s fodqegeiRwUY5l8LbPX5S6x4jBLPlkViJGvWxjM0gaOSsMjT51F3Dp0eMwVa8TIju42c ia3rS8glpzthEqQ/n2PJdIMr3DZHXnQbVNhng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=n95RJyWpJnHB2rvviY/JP3ZHj+/GN3oBN5cnhTHqPlkIsS/ebiVC4T/eDe93qap/wh 2ohyrD/Oew1RXRClKBhjQvOOM6JLXkAnQ/3f7p4D02wn+yooDQpiQMSDe5Jri2Y95s3K sIY8zQIy/c74S//qwJLQGBL2lIAeMu6y5Sp5k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b1003151422l685044eai9d190abb35792ca2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <21151438.206.1268673361590.JavaMail.root@n34> <9ea2f30b1003151422l685044eai9d190abb35792ca2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:25:52 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b1003151425v1c813810w1ed90ec2782ce1b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c9290b8ec1920481dd8606 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:25:53 +0000 (UTC) --001636c9290b8ec1920481dd8606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Todd Matthews Date: Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar To: Kris Hartung I'm using the atm350 to mix with a piezo pickup on my acoustic bass. The clip doesn't open up that wide so I've had to be creative in what I attach it to... but the mic sounds good to me. The other pricer option for an instrument mic that gets high gain before feedback is the DPA4099. -Todd Matthews On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kris Hartung wrote: > Any comments on this? > > > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574748-REG/Audio_Technica_ATM350CW_ATM350_HI_Intensity_Microphone_with.html#specifications > > For live this would be ideal...less feedback. > > Kris > > --001636c9290b8ec1920481dd8606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


--001485e7c9fc670f5c0482ce48e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 20:41:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F6363BE85; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NlEspzvpR47dk8WcmzBzGHrsfGUcqlL0N1SuL/7flUk=; b=hO412ZgzASW/2Is6MmfwxSEyfkGqvCARqED5ZrDzoeS5xhiHA4CMRVcQq4P02F0o0A GZjp8piNgEjqXx9dR5OdBYQk1QRoSK+6inpWZ2oit0G6VBaffZb1R6cBWTi1IfMYjj0K AggXHjOlfk6pu1uDDZ4vsoQEspm0xNgNlY9PM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=An5VtGEOzPeET6SlpdpnVAOWwAdx8QYVV5GdV3f/RPPR5p5DK5fbT9p9N9JWBiL42M arHzZJplqJSqviODZ4EXZ+X3/M2s8GFSp0A6BC7tr5rchOcYqYCjwWL4feaEOXGje9jb 5hUt8i/4FD5zbCGpqr42ukoUxGIL3LkqIojCw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a91003271006j6f7ce548qcb53b586c8b5f753@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003270858s5d9f9698ra167bf0e1cef2ec@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003270921k56cfcb0ap5fca25c18ee6f3d1@mail.gmail.com> <2871c3a91003271006j6f7ce548qcb53b586c8b5f753@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 04:41:25 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd70ecab7850a0482ce4d76 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:41:27 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd70ecab7850a0482ce4d76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanx Sylvain. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Here's a link to the manual: > > http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf > > Sylvain > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, halim zainal wrote: > >> I guess it's not as easy as the DL4 tho. From the DL4 i can just step on >> the 1/2 speed button to make everything go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do >> wonders more than the DL4. I'm still learning to understang the EDP unit. >> Thanx for your awesome feedbacks. >> >> Halimski. >> ps:- where can i find the user manual on how to use the EDP? >> >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, halim zainal >>> wrote: >>> > 1/2 speed and double speed functions >>> >>> When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one >>> octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The >>> outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at >>> Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed" >>> (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with >>> that name, but if the function is still available) >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> >>> >> > --000e0cd70ecab7850a0482ce4d76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanx Sylvain.

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:= 06 AM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's a link to the manual:


Sylvain


On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, halim= zainal <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess it's not as easy as the DL4= tho. From the DL4 i can just step on the 1/2 speed button to make everythi= ng go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do wonders more than the DL4. I'= ;m still learning to understang the EDP unit. Thanx for your awesome feedba= cks.=A0

Halimski.
ps:- where can i find the use= r manual on how to use the EDP?

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, halim = zainal <halim= zainal@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1/2 speed and double speed functions

When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one
octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The
outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at
Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed&= quot;
(using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with
that name, but if the function is still available)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




--000e0cd70ecab7850a0482ce4d76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 20:48:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5F3B3BE80; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=K9nXGNpyPDoWQP4T5V7bkXoWV0e5eSxPELjlNfVLFIs=; b=KtZhF7hJRjpRUm526rxji/sNbsG+0RiUmtd0OL3929fl2PNZx/OpEsXjitaMxalli/ /XQnske5iTyNoT8K5T6AbNn5R6yv38nkkAIm1GmSAUeP2COefhBA59R8FVKpvWqXjfTB eGW3WT8GRw4DeUEzDI2t87i5MQ9vyyhJ5vJAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xx35hUg9gxCA9gYTGX9OxUCYiaQHV7N76tLLN6aO72j9orPk/W5X1HBYDE0khg5giM XyWgn1Qaqfp/PO0ymstZ1OB3NehGPxfUbYNfn78x0BlP5jDH+cVFigLM9pAghBG0zfmK iq+3ZQO1M2Lzi0sWe7XOHWDIZ9r1T6w6jhofY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BAE5C67.40307@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> <4BAE5C67.40307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 04:48:31 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b148d91d208c0482ce6742 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:48:32 +0000 (UTC) --001636b148d91d208c0482ce6742 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Happenstance Loop 4 appears on the display. This is really helpful (i mean your replies). Thanx. I've never seen or came across any Malaysian Traditional music on cd or any recorded medium. But they do air it on our local radio. I tried looking for the mp3's from these guys but nowhere to be found. --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBjEQPqNmws On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > halim zainal wrote: > >> I'm not sure >> > but now you are ;-) > > > > > for 1/2 speed, you'll need a midi controller. > OR > Set > InsertMode=HSP > then the Insert button will 1/2 the speed. > > Per's assuming you have a midi controller, so his post is confusing. > > the manual for the Gibson unit is the same :- > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html > > > How do i check it and how to install new apps? Thanx. >> Actually most Malaysian traditional music was derived from Indonesian and >> Thailand. >> > > yes, that's clearly audible in the court music, > it sounds somewhere between the music of those 2 locations. > > Are there CDs available do you know? > > > andy butler > > --001636b148d91d208c0482ce6742 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Happenstance Loop 4 appears on the display. This is really helpful (i = mean your replies). Thanx.

I've never seen or = came across any Malaysian Traditional music on cd or any recorded medium. B= ut they do air it on our local radio.=A0


O= n Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:28 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:


halim zainal wrote:
I'm not sure
but now you are ;-)




for 1/2 speed, you'll need a midi controller.
OR
Set
InsertMode=3DHSP
then the Insert button will 1/2 the speed.

Per's assuming you have a midi controller, so his post is confusing.
the manual for the Gibson unit is the same :-

http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html<= /a>


How do i check it and how to install new apps? Thanx.
Actually most Malaysian traditional music was derived from Indonesian and T= hailand.

yes, that's clearly audible in the court music,
it sounds somewhere between the music of those 2 locations.

Are there CDs available do you know?


andy butler


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To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 28 18:08:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25B563BE77; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9a2c87a0-8877-47e1-98e2-c644de25f2f7_" X-Originating-IP: [80.202.243.237] From: Stephen Isherwood To: Subject: RE: EDP only sees 33 seconds memory Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:08:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20100327174759.870913BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> References: ,<20100327174759.870913BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2010 18:08:28.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAFF1220:01CACEA1] Resent-Message-ID: <-AuLRC.A.9dC.ds5rLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:08:29 +0000 (UTC) --_9a2c87a0-8877-47e1-98e2-c644de25f2f7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C Yes that was it thank! Stvy > Date: Sat=2C 27 Mar 2010 10:16:21 -0700 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: fuckthespam@creepingfog.com > Subject: Re: EDP only sees 33 seconds memory >=20 > Sounds like More Loops is set to 6 (6 * 33 =3D 198)? >=20 >=20 > At 2010.03.27 07:23 AM=2C Stephen Isherwood wrote: > >Hi=2C > > > >I have an EDP with Loop 4 v1.1 and 16MB memory. which should result=20 > >in 198 secs of loop time detected. > > > >It only detects 33 seconds. I have tried putting new memory in which=20 > >works on another unit but no change. As far as I can tell all other=20 > >functionality is fine. Any ideas? > > > >Thanks=2C > > > >Stvy >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_9a2c87a0-8877-47e1-98e2-c644de25f2f7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C

Yes that was it thank!

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>=3B Date: Sat=2C = 27 Mar 2010 10:16:21 -0700
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
>=3B From: fuckthespam@creepingfog.com
>=3B Subject: Re: EDP on= ly sees 33 seconds memory
>=3B
>=3B Sounds like More Loops is se= t to 6 (6 * 33 =3D 198)?
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B At 2010.03.27 07:2= 3 AM=2C Stephen Isherwood wrote:
>=3B >=3BHi=2C
>=3B >=3B
= >=3B >=3BI have an EDP with Loop 4 v1.1 and 16MB memory. which should r= esult
>=3B >=3Bin 198 secs of loop time detected.
>=3B >=3B<= br>>=3B >=3BIt only detects 33 seconds. I have tried putting new memory= in which
>=3B >=3Bworks on another unit but no change. As far as I= can tell all other
>=3B >=3Bfunctionality is fine. Any ideas?
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Tell us now = --_9a2c87a0-8877-47e1-98e2-c644de25f2f7_-- From josefackerman@tin.it Sun Mar 28 19:36:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 27255 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:36:23 UTC Received: from flooring-frenzy.com (66-191-131-166.static.roch.mn.charter.com [66.191.131.166]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5203BE70; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([82.128.21.163]) by flooring-frenzy.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:21:41 -0500 Reply-To: < fund_unit002@yahoo.co.jp> From: ""You are officially inform"" Subject: You are officially inform Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 02:21:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Reply-to: alexwellington01@gmail.com Message-id: <1cf7f061cfe01d.1cfe01d1cf7f06@hathway.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Good day Are you a businessman or woman? Are you in any financial stress or do you need funds to start up your own business? Do you have a low credit score and you are finding it hard to obtain a loan from local banks and other financial institutes? a) Personal Loan, Business Expansion. b) Business Start-up and Education. c) Debt Consolidation. d) Hard Money Loans. However, Our method offers you the chance to state the amount of loan needed and also the duration you can afford to complete the loan repayment with an interest rate of 3%. This gives you a real chance to get the funds you need. Interested Applicants should complete the below details: contact us via alexwellington01@gmail.com Full Name: Loan Amount: Loan Duration: Occupation: Monthly Income: Address/Country: Phone Contact : Awaiting Your Response Regards Mr.Alex wellington From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 02:11:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3D2C3BE84; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 02:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:11:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0210_01CACEB2.DAB58470" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2010 02:11:49.0331 (UTC) FILETIME=[30B26230:01CACEE5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 02:11:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0210_01CACEB2.DAB58470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm doing music research for a new project I'm putting together. I need = to construct an audio study of free jazz and/or avant-garde = guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better. This is what I have so far, not all of which is that far out, but it's = the best I can do. Those with an * next to them are not really free = jazz or avant-garde, but a good representation of the instrumentation in = modern jazz. Bill Frisell - Live Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture John Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and self titled (with Marc = Johnson and Peter Erskine) John Scofield - Out Like a Light * John Stowell -Somewhere * Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled * Mike Stern - Standards * Nels Cline Trio - Ground Pat Metheny - Trio Live * Any others I can add? There must be more than this. Oddly, this is a = difficult subject to search for on Google and music sites. There needs = to be a music search engine that allows you to search by genre and exact = instrumentation.=20 Kris www.krispenhartung.com ------=_NextPart_000_0210_01CACEB2.DAB58470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm doing music research for a new = project I'm=20 putting together. I need to construct an audio study of free jazz = and/or=20 avant-garde guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the = better.
 
This is what I have so far, not all of = which is=20 that far out, but it's the best I can do.  Those with an * next to = them are=20 not really free jazz or avant-garde, but a good representation of the=20 instrumentation in modern jazz.
 
Bill Frisell - Live
Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic=20 Gesture
John Abercrombie - In the Moment, = November, and=20 self titled (with Marc Johnson and Peter Erskine)
John Scofield - Out Like a Light = *
John Stowell -Somewhere *
Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled = *
Mike Stern - Standards *
Nels Cline Trio - Ground
Pat Metheny - Trio Live *
 
Any others I can add? There must be = more than this.=20 Oddly, this is a difficult subject to search for on Google and music=20 sites.  There needs to be a music search engine that allows you to = search=20 by genre and exact instrumentation.
 
Kris
 
www.krispenhartung.com<= /DIV>
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0210_01CACEB2.DAB58470-- From kunde0144@srv08.guenstig-webspace.de Mon Mar 29 05:56:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 7585 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:56:43 UTC Received: from srv08.guenstig-webspace.de (srv08.guenstig-webspace.de [89.163.148.130]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AF83BE79 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv08.guenstig-webspace.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D44A222EC for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:36:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper use of control character (char 0D hex): From: Deputy Governor \r\n Received: from srv08.guenstig-webspace.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv08.guenstig-webspace.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qfOsXt1hSDtq for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:36:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srv08.guenstig-webspace.de (Postfix, from userid 2179) id 56B14A20169; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:53:31 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Unpaid contract/Inheritance sum-why you have not succeeded From: Deputy Governor Reply-To: mr.chukudiedi@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20100328235700.56B14A20169@srv08.guenstig-webspace.de> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:53:31 +0200 (CEST) Re; Unpaid contract/Inheritance sum-why you have not succeeded After waiting to hear from you or your Nigeria partners for a long time now, I decided to make this direct approach to you in other not to let it be as if I have anything in mind against you. I do not know if you have asked yourself why each time the release of this fund is approved, all of a sudden, the payment will be stopped or one problem or the other will come up. If you have not asked this question or you do not know, this is an opportunity for me to tell you. Sometime ago, your Nigerian friend I mean the people that introduced you to this project approached me through my dear wife who works with the Federal Ministry of Finance and asked me to assist them conclude a money transfer deal they had with you, they requested me to assist them by removing the original name, company’s name and the bank particulars from Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) Vetting and replacing them with your name and your bank details in order to make you appear as the rightful beneficiary of this funds. I agreed on conditions that they would pay me US$300,000 as soon as your name appears as the beneficiary. I did as agreed and demanded to be paid but your friends started giving me excuses. They even told me that you promised to send money to me, do you know that up till now, I have not received a single cent from them and have not set my eyes on any of them. Based on their attitude, I decided to stop the funds release movement because I cannot be denied of my right in my own office considering the risk as it might affect my job. Why I am making this clear to you is that I can see that you are still making frantic efforts to conclude this project. Now I am ready to forget the past. I do not need the US$300,000 any longer from you but a good compensation from your mind. I need your assurance that your colleagues will be totally kept out of this transaction. I know quite well that none of them is aware of my new approach to you Stop spending your money unnecessarily to CBN Officers both here and overseas because you will not receive this money without my hand in it. I personally perfected the change of the documents at the very beginning and only I can perform it. The secret is that your partners failed to stamp duty your transfer documents. Finally, I need your promise that no official of the Central Bank of Nigeria will be aware of my involvement in this regard because of my position. Now re-assure me that you will be willing to compensate me. That you will assist my wife to establish a foreign account in your country where my compensation will be deposited. I am a man of my words, if you are ready to conclude this business with me, kindly contact so that I could give you more information over this issue once and for all. But if the reverse is the case, do not bother yourself to reach me. Regards. Mr.Chukwudi Ebi. Deputy Governor Foreign Operation & Inter Remittance Department (C.B.N) From freepost10@att.net Mon Mar 29 07:10:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from n22.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n22.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.161]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 14F0E3BE7C for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.194.244] by n22.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.82] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 Received: from [98.137.27.128] by t2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 647486.96835.bm@omp202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24059 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1269846647; bh=L6+YXg9CWXRm5PrQunJp7kiq4pzM5876C+PhnHwS+ok=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6I8NI3wp6uoG/Fy4bJ0bWSG7PiNCpXUu28666V0RXSR6TSHmlOM1cj3ZRswK7bB/YTfEzjAvttjnT25uUaX8VRL6YR3W7pi9SwXvV8x9jpBihS6XbQc8ltUtac4kkAw23z2X4Pg7KcoWWVx+sd3CB6w9WYY8V+nCoRu4ieUEc4o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DzSHV5Wq4XDs9ua8jmpkiNqRkpmzsh8hLknv16w6adsdSfMrvGTnquL1C/GqB7nDRkeIZESvVsj/+cd6ATmnJc99fWy9O/08c6nr8V9tNhwd08GlsvWtaA3RtALqcvqGYeCIUAb2WR+okZYgPDP6NEY74s+7ibNNXpzzzb4SQTA=; Message-ID: <515703.21676.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iBtZb0wVM1nodGOkkUKyaagkgB2SdbzIRILT6sjPYBsFQU8 IybaC_.Ffz41vQkUjghW1sPrEuZ7qJl0yZy.huyrbkHqyeIgHc1RkfenQLyy voDk0DPxmBmavufKlVVB2zi3Wh3zBLEhkDMEy.VRy1TubMh3gnjAkwjpOZLL l5EVzuX3HdjhhkpZb1AP_jpOnUbns6J7j4caoUCXztwwkPhmGv9JoFGvQ1Tr ogbvDIs7NvvMONLbG0smIZD0RpYL45o_etHSM7I25U369LU5c2yrFkigil7S QIIx2QSkXZWgYiqxJnjjA1_reqHgskQYpdcnHCiOZIEDu_sgFIs9wFSTPp3h D0_ilb6uilvUw6yLFCgeiIx82irJLL0UklJfmhIiJAxcXawhl4kdmDVBqcrk DxaMUnWTASqrDtgOymHWtj0EpR.5oT.sWKU.pCdRmdTlDmMmifuL_DjpQPQB nT4v.fDL14Imu2pkSv_mAtvcBsYlnoIO0Puk6Il9Y9MYOQ08QYBEMf1o_Sqv YP2Fc7h0fKYdSvwo_lAkui6AcR.5gSMzV3KQYhXgWREdNVXF4KWrOcnRQhVQ kdmFPXmh.8F0M_aNJ3kex7EmWRjM9AIX.u.Jgs9U8d2MAJot_ElEi66C8hXN _tE53Jz9vbeV_LpzvJ1Mc3E31kDxSaDI- Received: from [82.128.18.220] by web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:10:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Barrister Philip McKay Reply-To: bpmckay1@hotmail.com Subject: MY REGARDS To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-630930349-1269846647=:21676" --0-630930349-1269846647=:21676 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Sir, I am seeking for your humble assistance to help us carry out the last wishes of Mr Ahmed Hassan, a Palestine community leader and international business man worth about $120 Million US Dollars who wants you to help establish your kind of school and home for the less privileged children in the impoverished Gaza strip as a result of the difficult siege. All that is required is for you to be the next of kin and executor of this and I will furnish you the rest. Regards Barrister Philip McKay --0-630930349-1269846647=:21676 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Dear Sir,
I am seeking for your humble assistance to help us carry out the last wishes of Mr Ahmed Hassan, a Palestine community leader and international business man worth about $120 Million US Dollars who wants you to help establish your kind of school and home for the less privileged children in the impoverished Gaza strip as a result of the difficult siege.

All that is required is for you to be the next of kin and executor of this and I will furnish you the rest.

Regards
Barrister Philip McKay
--0-630930349-1269846647=:21676-- From freepost10@att.net Mon Mar 29 07:10:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from n6-vm0.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (n6-vm0.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.26.79]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 14E033BE79 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [67.195.9.82] by n6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 Received: from [98.137.27.222] by t2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp132.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 587234.80912.bm@omp132.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24059 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Mar 2010 07:10:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1269846647; bh=L6+YXg9CWXRm5PrQunJp7kiq4pzM5876C+PhnHwS+ok=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6I8NI3wp6uoG/Fy4bJ0bWSG7PiNCpXUu28666V0RXSR6TSHmlOM1cj3ZRswK7bB/YTfEzjAvttjnT25uUaX8VRL6YR3W7pi9SwXvV8x9jpBihS6XbQc8ltUtac4kkAw23z2X4Pg7KcoWWVx+sd3CB6w9WYY8V+nCoRu4ieUEc4o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DzSHV5Wq4XDs9ua8jmpkiNqRkpmzsh8hLknv16w6adsdSfMrvGTnquL1C/GqB7nDRkeIZESvVsj/+cd6ATmnJc99fWy9O/08c6nr8V9tNhwd08GlsvWtaA3RtALqcvqGYeCIUAb2WR+okZYgPDP6NEY74s+7ibNNXpzzzb4SQTA=; Message-ID: <515703.21676.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iBtZb0wVM1nodGOkkUKyaagkgB2SdbzIRILT6sjPYBsFQU8 IybaC_.Ffz41vQkUjghW1sPrEuZ7qJl0yZy.huyrbkHqyeIgHc1RkfenQLyy voDk0DPxmBmavufKlVVB2zi3Wh3zBLEhkDMEy.VRy1TubMh3gnjAkwjpOZLL l5EVzuX3HdjhhkpZb1AP_jpOnUbns6J7j4caoUCXztwwkPhmGv9JoFGvQ1Tr ogbvDIs7NvvMONLbG0smIZD0RpYL45o_etHSM7I25U369LU5c2yrFkigil7S QIIx2QSkXZWgYiqxJnjjA1_reqHgskQYpdcnHCiOZIEDu_sgFIs9wFSTPp3h D0_ilb6uilvUw6yLFCgeiIx82irJLL0UklJfmhIiJAxcXawhl4kdmDVBqcrk DxaMUnWTASqrDtgOymHWtj0EpR.5oT.sWKU.pCdRmdTlDmMmifuL_DjpQPQB nT4v.fDL14Imu2pkSv_mAtvcBsYlnoIO0Puk6Il9Y9MYOQ08QYBEMf1o_Sqv YP2Fc7h0fKYdSvwo_lAkui6AcR.5gSMzV3KQYhXgWREdNVXF4KWrOcnRQhVQ kdmFPXmh.8F0M_aNJ3kex7EmWRjM9AIX.u.Jgs9U8d2MAJot_ElEi66C8hXN _tE53Jz9vbeV_LpzvJ1Mc3E31kDxSaDI- Received: from [82.128.18.220] by web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:10:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Barrister Philip McKay Reply-To: bpmckay1@hotmail.com Subject: MY REGARDS To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-630930349-1269846647=:21676" --0-630930349-1269846647=:21676 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Sir, I am seeking for your humble assistance to help us carry out the last wishes of Mr Ahmed Hassan, a Palestine community leader and international business man worth about $120 Million US Dollars who wants you to help establish your kind of school and home for the less privileged children in the impoverished Gaza strip as a result of the difficult siege. All that is required is for you to be the next of kin and executor of this and I will furnish you the rest. Regards Barrister Philip McKay --0-630930349-1269846647=:21676 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Dear Sir,
I am seeking for your humble assistance to help us carry out the last wishes of Mr Ahmed Hassan, a Palestine community leader and international business man worth about $120 Million US Dollars who wants you to help establish your kind of school and home for the less privileged children in the impoverished Gaza strip as a result of the difficult siege.

All that is required is for you to be the next of kin and executor of this and I will furnish you the rest.

Regards
Barrister Philip McKay
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Tel: +233-2418-20549 Email: zenithbankghana1972000@yahoo.com.cn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 08:34:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4252E3BE85; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qr2fuIkyWogpjZYukAPqiOmc5InbhojuX80mZv5aVlg=; b=L6ZjAtWlhMCl3m6r3cN5uOvPu9pgL891k2+y0axZLeJCxhMHdtzeyvWZN5oEEWvCbL q7dUbUZZWltpI5So9f/kqWHDjwf1/BS3PwoTLo2GdlEEVxFKltp+Z5uIlO5rg/FEHJ7K /6hUYn/xWOaODGHxQzXD9PhDJitsd8nmNDd+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=L1rgmNCtpGOhQ0DoqpKOZbuQat4ADBd/ogA8+pUOLgqppf25n5KOHnLvpFGRhZkEg5 4ECXF+Hdrev0R4Tbu1wDLXM9o1D7aosQ8JTT/ocU2gxPrIUkaXapOrm8F7I1cPfWGGbG NUvl5ZZO1YxM7wMzdkRSZPtliQ1OOlgLllYxc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:34:14 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b1003290134mc337642m5229b6eef515c29@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Krispen, you said: "There must be more than this." No, there needn't be more ;). At least in the free jazz domain, the g/b/dr trio format is nothing that worked well with the historic and musical roots of that domain. With the exception of some very "special" projects, a) guitar didn't play that much of a role in jazz as a harmony/rhythm section instrument (as opposed to piano) - Miles Davis' post-Bitches-Brew 70ies albums being the important exception, or as a lead/solo instrument outside of rock jazz circles. The guitar started to gain some importance in more experimental jazz circles in (I think) the early nineties, but usually in a horn/guitar/drums format. Still, I have some suggestions to add - but both of them being one-time-only projects: Marc Ducret - L'Ombra di Verdi (and while you're at it, check out the work of Big Satan for some nice as/g/dr stuff!) Derek Bailey/Ruins - Tohjinbo, Saisoro (all of this recommended, btw, especially the Ducret album). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 09:59:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69CDC3BE84; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PJGoBK0p7WOZ7G40xEp+bVlbpg3qhllifdi8C4wiWZY=; b=uHIiKRlznPTsErjbz+09m2z2e9wASVRWsYirIcuYYTC57l36VpAS4GWyE1zEcvMcJI +nGqji1CT3nbrlVfp94PjY7bokeDGP7Te5flQfMDYdQBIjPHDDhhxHGdNgNuMikCEGzo +mSaGaT8bEnQa4ueTb1/nEb8EaBLkASfBFXyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ugYnDTFgbPPzB6u9qE3tSB/VPMz9YKYYokIHQUZJ1QAFJcia7ZXf8TK6B8BnCptOjy t17vAj4XcPtdswgWRBge+Pr+8sYb/LHO+p68ThE5jvlBuVhEQyHKKP2Xm1jIaMBATftO ry9FKebhViFBtZ7GfVpym+n/+d0xNUJqxS12w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b1003290134mc337642m5229b6eef515c29@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b1003290134mc337642m5229b6eef515c29@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:59:57 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003290259q60a73da7rcc96c1267819a0ab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:59:59 +0000 (UTC) One has to remember that the avantgarde scene is extremely small - if measured in record sales. I was chocked once when getting the true figures form a record label rep. But guitar has been used more than since the early nineties, Rainer! I remember buying records by Eugene Chadbourne in 1979. And Henry Kaiser's first outlet's by that time. Paul Bley had a trio with guitarist Bill Connors and Jimmy Giuffre. I bought an awesome record by them in 1977, http://www.omnitone.com/store/123839.htm A big leap for "jazz guitar" was Pat Matheney's releases (that I also started buying in the late seventies) but this doesn't really sort under "avantgarde". But there was of course Derek Baily early on. James Blood Ulmer had guitar based trios with drums very early, Sonny Sharrock too. Not sure trio format was released on records though. If stretching definitions a little one could look at Last Exit as a guitar based trio plus saxophone. At least that's what they sounded to me live; Br=C3=B6tzmann not playing all the time as Sharrock, Laswell and drummer Ronald Shannon Jacksson did. Jackson also doing "poetry declaiming drum solos" quite a lot. Also, "being avantgarde" it might not always make sense to record ones music. I mean, recording music is not very avantgarde. It would just turn out "a recording of an avantgarde event" which might be considered rather lame compared to performing the act. This might explain that there are not much records of avantgarde music, besides the fact that the market is close to non existent. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Krispen, > > you said: "There must be more than this." > > No, there needn't be more ;). At least in the free jazz domain, the > g/b/dr trio format is nothing that worked well with the historic and > musical roots of that domain. With the exception of some very > "special" projects, a) guitar didn't play that much of a role in jazz > as a harmony/rhythm section instrument (as opposed to piano) - Miles > Davis' post-Bitches-Brew 70ies albums being the important exception, > or as a lead/solo instrument outside of rock jazz circles. > > The guitar started to gain some importance in more experimental jazz > circles in (I think) the early nineties, but usually in a > horn/guitar/drums format. > > Still, I have some suggestions to add - but both of them being > one-time-only projects: > Marc Ducret - L'Ombra di Verdi (and while you're at it, check out the > work of Big Satan for some nice as/g/dr stuff!) > Derek Bailey/Ruins - Tohjinbo, Saisoro > > (all of this recommended, btw, especially the Ducret album). > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rainer > > From peterdocherty200908@gmail.com Mon Mar 29 10:24:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 34164 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:24:05 UTC Received: from u15308798.onlinehome-server.com (u15308798.onlinehome-server.com [74.208.112.19]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F403BE79 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3589 invoked by uid 48); 28 Mar 2010 18:28:58 -0400 Date: 28 Mar 2010 18:28:58 -0400 Message-ID: <20100328222858.3585.qmail@u15308798.onlinehome-server.com> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Peter Docherty has forwarded a page to you from Oregon Independent - news and information from Oregon and the Pacific Northwest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Mailer: Drupal Errors-To: peterdocherty200908@gmail.com Reply-To: peterdocherty200908@gmail.com From: peterdocherty200908@gmail.com
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=0A=0A=0A=0A   --0-446937956-1269868187=:91150-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 14:17:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA8DD3BE86; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <24054760.216.1269852037339.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <24054760.216.1269852037339.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:16:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2010 14:17:15.0709 (UTC) FILETIME=[887096D0:01CACF4A] Resent-Message-ID: <4_6lcD.A.HMG.sZLsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the Ducret tip, Rainer...I just bought two of live MP3 albums, one from France, and the other Poland. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:34 AM Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios > Krispen, > > you said: "There must be more than this." > > No, there needn't be more ;). At least in the free jazz domain, the > g/b/dr trio format is nothing that worked well with the historic and > musical roots of that domain. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 17:00:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 272BB3BE86; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ET/TwE0uibmSfLNsez4ky3kfIvh9nwaEn2nGN5VN++s=; b=n9f/kDL+ZrXpMnUxHx8t29AsGRZnG34anCsq/x3nb3p9Lwu0jGsYZmikKWkfU10163 JVHQsTXmSdz5E78NrswqqJS/8fB/8ilsAShky9ztGuLjg11VmNEqepd855N3GLY4YABi TqSQOrc+GGEJKVP9meXLZBS9o0pkYZPxo95zI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vvjpqwlgLj44iMjswB6mCzkh3wU7S6oK/HX/RorloZR57rNgGTqGt93cByGLBepgaF RmSiKPIT23Nqr58HwA8irzB/vPVU20ZiSCspEL/Mwvi1fOxD8OW4Ru5NyHuWesY0r56H 4VkZNH6FEm4o5TCbwcaU1KXgcg1edJ49zhQwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003270524o10bf8215g9f067d5dc13592ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100327085739.176640@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003270524o10bf8215g9f067d5dc13592ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:00:55 +0100 Message-ID: <2d351f01003291000t1be152bbl9f1176816ecfbcc5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163641780bd133110482f3741d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:00:58 +0000 (UTC) --00163641780bd133110482f3741d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd vote against the Taxi btw as a portable solution to anything except having too much money: horribly voiced speaker, useless for vocals, heavy, overpriced, proprietary battery. 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--00163641780bd133110482f3741d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 17:21:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB0AD3BE84; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3BzWxfj3tJOGU3z2C3ww9Tmf87vfIksqFWPwoKEoJjU=; b=iuFOFx1wketuj6RVLxs7KM15QA1wyjb+DkOjeIMY4ozDJM/GVuCT9sDV5TPu5kFhZt qHESH0ihvL4w8k1Zy7gdYKsc5bfdbpyqZpehj6uGD1uZHCn5MQbhz/z6czk+qIFkbHkc vQRdiDArQPbX4CR/Ts5hYY302e2fTRQupl9t0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s6vGexMsde/XCnHUGl0AwDRl3bVAAG70gkbkVwDRpperEXxxku1sX6azvfhHVm9CzA IBbW08ShRm2nAh4IHVjA3PB7LR2jH8qpH5w6fYbHlaAAhHXsZ3o66OARdnDo+/6av1th 6vOKBoC94JVGjsL0z9UoLNrgrsSztiSEY+xFE= Sender: daryl shawn Message-ID: <4BB0E19A.2080204@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:21:30 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Here's a few, quick-like: - David Torn - Polytown (w/Terry Bozzio & Mick Karn, brilliant) - Mary Halvorson - Dragon's Head (honestly haven't heard it yet, but she is fantastic, played with Braxton, etc) - Nels Cline Trio - Sad, Chest, Silencer - Nels Cline Singers - all three of their albums, the more recent being the most abstract - Derek Bailey - Mirakle (w/Jamaaladeen Tacama & Calvin Weston - all improvised, fantastic stuff, my very favorite fully improvised gtr trio record) - Hilmar Jensen - Meg Nem Sa - John Abercrombie - Gateway (essential) - Ava Mendoza - not out yet, but soon she'll be recording her trio called Qwok (w/Weasel Walter & Devin Hoff) Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I'm doing music research for a new project I'm putting together. I > need to construct an audio study of free jazz and/or avant-garde > guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better. > > This is what I have so far, not all of which is that far out, but it's > the best I can do. Those with an * next to them are not really free > jazz or avant-garde, but a good representation of the instrumentation > in modern jazz. > > Bill Frisell - Live > Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture > John Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and self titled (with Marc > Johnson and Peter Erskine) > John Scofield - Out Like a Light * > John Stowell -Somewhere * > Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled * > Mike Stern - Standards * > Nels Cline Trio - Ground > Pat Metheny - Trio Live * > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 18:34:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF633BE85; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=64e6NjvcmQRWT9Z+kRv/xQ1ZvD6SMwwLLGsD0duTuw0=; b=K3uEwYXBZN87eeSOoSjXoWGihDBS2/8tQ+X7YO+YFBiMDLS835TtUU6jPFJjckAdue KbL+bKPdtdU25ff/6dA0Z6Bc/e4DJY+tF6bkEdo0YI0CqUyVhjZwaUIT0oHZ75KdtIoc XcxS230uKBWFz3W+rM4H4KptjN+iK3p80ljc0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=k5CMYKIofCuRS1lH2YR4BqR7AeVhtNfdsRkKG6Mj5hgGbOhAsZRt5sS8tZeo4jeR/Y U3ADNLaRWRu9KonwANAd05AvifQeGn0nUMKtN1ZZH5NpHF4/ZLyBiv3IujabqYCm0HMb 8SuWlNqpLWslY8IkNUtkcOhC+yFmOnbku7iEE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <004801cacb6c$7717b7b0$90f13747@tbl01fcf9be917> <709637FB44A269489C5957CCBACAE517011F35C2@townsendexch.townsendprint.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:34:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 (overdub feature request) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:34:34 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi Nathan, > I has seen your message on the Line 6 forum yesterday, I'll address > the feedback 0-100% issue as well. Let's hope they will include it in > their next firmware update. Done! Filled in the feedback form. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 18:53:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 740DE3BE85; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iDlFLEHc4h+cwhN7Hn/p4oKiLwVCHSDP1wTT3f+OONg=; b=hDHPi9DrF6ZaNYqw5IqJZPvkTdh3LK9hkQpKDJeTWLM8w6rD+KtPn7oDzIhIcMAqXM vqMp9NUyXVBiYXdgJDGkk2HG7F/txJbk6Uop5kXb2YmlszRHwT+EygSiRewFL8JH1SJW zgYjNcGXmq433PF3qlpdAYYyHInzGT/QssstY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MFSAGqWv6T9ke719v8+U80RwdvP0e3ufHCX48aZxhLV4TrbVXyhHRu0KYyfLtrHbUo lhxdCxM88HZ3YUR9LjV9xxWCuJ7FxuCdOppXQIZpVSaWejsJC9+/M4hU+KtX436jRh7H X43noCCuWGXUTUWl2/NlQfsAsGqqBoOg6lQdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Free Jazz/Avant Guard... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64af9fc8b24170482f5051f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:53:09 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64af9fc8b24170482f5051f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 krispen- my knowledge of jazz stuff is very limited. and these aren't straight gtr, bass, drums....but what i know that's close: -there is the scofield loop album-that has a band w/ it, came out a few yrs ago. it's decent, he uses an boss rc20 for looping in it (uberjam) -any of nels cline singers discs are good-i'm not sure how i'd categorize them, honestly. but he uses gtr-drums-bass... -one of my fave discs of late is the david torn "prezens" disc-that's gtr, drums, horn, keyboards (& electronics)-but i love that disc (there are youtube clips too, dt usually says they're pretty limited in audio content, but i like them for sound reference) -there is also the polytown disc, dt w/ bozzio and mick karn, trio improv from early 90s-also a great disc- dt also played on marty fogel's "many heads a bobbin" & lonely universe- are band projects that he contributed guitar too. they are good i think. and there is also his 'cloud about mercury' dics w/ a band oh, and the BLUE disc and the live disc from that-are excellent -i love the live disc-it's bruford and levin, and dt and crhis botti plays trumpet. there is also: the henry kaiser "plane crash" power trio-it's not really jazz, more improv, experimental. but it's good. HK probably has a few other band project discs, but i'm drawing a blank sitting here.... oh, michael "nemoguitar" klobuchar has an old band called "Klutter" -it was a gtr bass drums improv group he did, i have 2 or 3 discs of it. of things recorded to 4-track. some interesting band interaction on it, again-i'm not sure if it's "jazz" more outthere improv/experimental. maybe he can comment on it..... oh, the live frisell east/west double disc it hink is straight guitar/bass/drums. it's good. he does some loop things, oh and his other live disc from the 90s ("Live") is good. i just realized i have a scary amt of bill frisell discs...most are good (unspeakable, good dog happy man, intercontinentals, frisell motian carter, bf w/ holland & jones) do you have his "power tools" disc-w/ ronald shannon jackson and melvin gibbs-from back in '87-i had this on album, it was actually REVIEWED in rolling stone back in 80s -how i heard about it. it's also good. and i know that there are some live discs from this band, but the guitarist pete cosey fills in for frisell-i've always been curious about it. another disc i had back in the 90s. sonny sharrocks "ask the ages", it was a trio w/ pharoah saunders on horn on a few cuts-i think it's out there. i sadly got rid of this yrs ago, and wish i still had it. copies of it now are kind of pricey, and i've not wanted to plunk down the $$ for it.... these are the ones off the top of my head (& my very limited knowledge....) s---- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016e64af9fc8b24170482f5051f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable krispen-
my knowledge of jazz stuff is very limited. and these aren'= t straight gtr, bass, drums....but what i know that's close:

-th= ere is the scofield loop album-that has a band w/ it, came out a few yrs ag= o. it's decent, he uses an boss rc20 for looping in it (uberjam)
-any of nels cline singers discs are good-i'm not sure how i'd cate= gorize them, honestly. but he uses gtr-drums-bass...
-one of my fave dis= cs of late is the david torn "prezens" disc-that's gtr, drums= , horn, keyboards (& electronics)-but i love that disc (there are youtu= be clips too, dt usually says they're pretty limited in audio content, = but i like them for sound reference)
-there is also the polytown disc, dt w/ bozzio and mick karn, trio improv f= rom early 90s-also a great disc-
dt also played on marty fogel's &qu= ot;many heads a bobbin" & lonely universe- are band projects that = he contributed guitar too. they are good i think. and there is also his = 9;cloud about mercury' dics w/ a band
oh, and the BLUE disc and the live disc from that-are excellent -i love the= live disc-it's bruford and levin, and dt and crhis botti plays trumpet= .

there is also:
the henry kaiser "plane crash" power t= rio-it's not really jazz, more improv, experimental. but it's good.= HK probably has a few other band project discs, but i'm
drawing a blank sitting here....

oh, michael "nemoguitar" = klobuchar has an old band called "Klutter" -it was a gtr bass dru= ms improv group he did, i have 2 or 3 discs of it. of things recorded to 4-= track. some interesting band interaction on it, again-i'm not sure if i= t's "jazz" more outthere improv/experimental. maybe he can co= mment on it.....

oh, the live frisell east/west double disc it hink is straight guitar/b= ass/drums. it's good. he does some loop things, oh and his other live d= isc from the 90s ("Live") is good.
i just realized i have a sc= ary amt of bill frisell discs...most are good (unspeakable, good dog happy = man, intercontinentals, frisell motian carter, bf w/ holland & jones) do you have his "power tools" disc-w/ ronald shannon jackson and = melvin gibbs-from back in '87-i had this on album, it was actually REVI= EWED in rolling stone back in 80s -how i heard about it. it's also good= . and i know that there are some live discs from this band, but the guitari= st pete cosey fills in for frisell-i've always been curious about it.
another disc i had back in the 90s. sonny sharrocks "ask the ages&= quot;, it was a trio w/ pharoah saunders on horn on a few cuts-i think it&#= 39;s out there. i sadly got rid of this yrs ago, and wish i still had it. c= opies of it now are kind of pricey, and i've not wanted to plunk down t= he $$ for it....

these are the ones off the top of my head (& my very limited knowle= dge....)
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--0016e64af9fc8b24170482f5051f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 18:56:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4CE73BE86; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vkzJeN7FlsBekPGsEiwm8w)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003290199 Message-id: <3EF29685B4CB495E9A92BB4300A8F536@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Free Jazz/Avant Guard... Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:55:16 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:56:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_vkzJeN7FlsBekPGsEiwm8w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I may be out of bounds a bit but Vernon Reid's solo albums are great and they are essentially trios +keys. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:52 AM Subject: Free Jazz/Avant Guard... krispen- my knowledge of jazz stuff is very limited. and these aren't straight gtr, bass, drums....but what i know that's close: -there is the scofield loop album-that has a band w/ it, came out a few yrs ago. it's decent, he uses an boss rc20 for looping in it (uberjam) -any of nels cline singers discs are good-i'm not sure how i'd categorize them, honestly. but he uses gtr-drums-bass... -one of my fave discs of late is the david torn "prezens" disc-that's gtr, drums, horn, keyboards (& electronics)-but i love that disc (there are youtube clips too, dt usually says they're pretty limited in audio content, but i like them for sound reference) -there is also the polytown disc, dt w/ bozzio and mick karn, trio improv from early 90s-also a great disc- dt also played on marty fogel's "many heads a bobbin" & lonely universe- are band projects that he contributed guitar too. they are good i think. and there is also his 'cloud about mercury' dics w/ a band oh, and the BLUE disc and the live disc from that-are excellent -i love the live disc-it's bruford and levin, and dt and crhis botti plays trumpet. there is also: the henry kaiser "plane crash" power trio-it's not really jazz, more improv, experimental. but it's good. HK probably has a few other band project discs, but i'm drawing a blank sitting here.... oh, michael "nemoguitar" klobuchar has an old band called "Klutter" -it was a gtr bass drums improv group he did, i have 2 or 3 discs of it. of things recorded to 4-track. some interesting band interaction on it, again-i'm not sure if it's "jazz" more outthere improv/experimental. maybe he can comment on it..... oh, the live frisell east/west double disc it hink is straight guitar/bass/drums. it's good. he does some loop things, oh and his other live disc from the 90s ("Live") is good. i just realized i have a scary amt of bill frisell discs...most are good (unspeakable, good dog happy man, intercontinentals, frisell motian carter, bf w/ holland & jones) do you have his "power tools" disc-w/ ronald shannon jackson and melvin gibbs-from back in '87-i had this on album, it was actually REVIEWED in rolling stone back in 80s -how i heard about it. it's also good. and i know that there are some live discs from this band, but the guitarist pete cosey fills in for frisell-i've always been curious about it. another disc i had back in the 90s. sonny sharrocks "ask the ages", it was a trio w/ pharoah saunders on horn on a few cuts-i think it's out there. i sadly got rid of this yrs ago, and wish i still had it. copies of it now are kind of pricey, and i've not wanted to plunk down the $$ for it.... these are the ones off the top of my head (& my very limited knowledge....) s---- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --Boundary_(ID_vkzJeN7FlsBekPGsEiwm8w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I may be out of bounds a bit but Vernon Reid's solo albums are great and they are essentially trios +keys.
 
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Subject: Free Jazz/Avant Guard...

krispen-
my knowledge of jazz stuff is very limited. and these aren't straight gtr, bass, drums....but what i know that's close:

-there is the scofield loop album-that has a band w/ it, came out a few yrs ago. it's decent, he uses an boss rc20 for looping in it (uberjam)
-any of nels cline singers discs are good-i'm not sure how i'd categorize them, honestly. but he uses gtr-drums-bass...
-one of my fave discs of late is the david torn "prezens" disc-that's gtr, drums, horn, keyboards (& electronics)-but i love that disc (there are youtube clips too, dt usually says they're pretty limited in audio content, but i like them for sound reference)
-there is also the polytown disc, dt w/ bozzio and mick karn, trio improv from early 90s-also a great disc-
dt also played on marty fogel's "many heads a bobbin" & lonely universe- are band projects that he contributed guitar too. they are good i think. and there is also his 'cloud about mercury' dics w/ a band
oh, and the BLUE disc and the live disc from that-are excellent -i love the live disc-it's bruford and levin, and dt and crhis botti plays trumpet.

there is also:
the henry kaiser "plane crash" power trio-it's not really jazz, more improv, experimental. but it's good. HK probably has a few other band project discs, but i'm
drawing a blank sitting here....

oh, michael "nemoguitar" klobuchar has an old band called "Klutter" -it was a gtr bass drums improv group he did, i have 2 or 3 discs of it. of things recorded to 4-track. some interesting band interaction on it, again-i'm not sure if it's "jazz" more outthere improv/experimental. maybe he can comment on it.....

oh, the live frisell east/west double disc it hink is straight guitar/bass/drums. it's good. he does some loop things, oh and his other live disc from the 90s ("Live") is good.
i just realized i have a scary amt of bill frisell discs...most are good (unspeakable, good dog happy man, intercontinentals, frisell motian carter, bf w/ holland & jones)
do you have his "power tools" disc-w/ ronald shannon jackson and melvin gibbs-from back in '87-i had this on album, it was actually REVIEWED in rolling stone back in 80s -how i heard about it. it's also good. and i know that there are some live discs from this band, but the guitarist pete cosey fills in for frisell-i've always been curious about it.

another disc i had back in the 90s. sonny sharrocks "ask the ages", it was a trio w/ pharoah saunders on horn on a few cuts-i think it's out there. i sadly got rid of this yrs ago, and wish i still had it. copies of it now are kind of pricey, and i've not wanted to plunk down the $$ for it....

these are the ones off the top of my head (& my very limited knowledge....)
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--Boundary_(ID_vkzJeN7FlsBekPGsEiwm8w)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 18:57:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BC2C3BE8B; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Nk5z+tqFZpMhdWcael9coLAiS06hicJcoZHE7CYcanQ=; b=G5a2resspa1Es4FBTD9YiJa+X2Xo5qCsICd1OG9rSXqrc4tzAoWXAtLM5c+jXq4eX8 O1iDOYCo8It2W5HVCs1nRZggcDeKqZoaWBtKgVdy3/o2Di9N8/PZQKZy8r5/zKOZ5ecH Ccgp8UZXrUZ7TsJmlKLthV4Qph2pWTSjzQGdU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fyKXm5eOQdXJffhzEOfgpUU9bVnDeJbEw/yC2O7NN9FaszskQfBu1T++uenWuT2cFK gFIYNbmQ01CBVqTm8hlGfnS6Y54tEBe2uIk73iHgXK0ZDvsMBi4yWIHI2nonCZlxHTyH tVur2s7g5fySCXqOWCWxYg/aM8+t5nYZbjj6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:57:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: kripsens free jazz/ search From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd117845dc3af0482f5179d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:57:59 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd117845dc3af0482f5179d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 forgot: eivind aarset-i have 'connected' & 'light extracts'. again no idea how to describe him. i've heard the term "nu-jazz" no idea what that means. the 2 discs are band projects and he does some pretty cool electronic style guitar w/ it... there are some youtube clips of him too... i know he's done some other band projects w/ folks in europe (can't remember the name he recorded w/), but i've heard good reviews of the stuff. s--- --000e0cd117845dc3af0482f5179d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable forgot:

eivind aarset-i have 'connected' & 'light ex= tracts'. again no idea how to describe him.
i've heard the term = "nu-jazz"
no idea what that means.
the 2 discs are band pro= jects and he does some pretty cool electronic style guitar w/ it...
there are some youtube clips of him too...
i know he's done some oth= er band projects w/ folks in europe (can't remember the name he recorde= d w/), but i've heard good reviews of the stuff.

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--000e0cd117845dc3af0482f5179d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 19:07:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5793BE92; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AsF5RrYC0xrUflxCqY/PrtukYxWV5ggpKmAAnatI5iM=; b=sOm3LwI1s153YPY7SvYirrYVpWZLSA24RQxvvdqUZb3y4XXm16tHPNbSZsZcLjHkLI M6MUSks3VKn0pp68vcqTQTUHedDJhSYLuSwNRCsFjR7Q5b4tnLIJcsudvH0SnqlcmT3f CBiG3/4UzLsfX3BtAEZlm8FAFfnWmxPtnlR5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=smY4scRBdfBuw3HAC6EgJHdGEc4TPHsGPHRI1ICGjdLTdDBRvHd3vOmFWn56cZ3J1C WuiC+vxMigkkauNn0zc5Adu13MJoD3u/TwddtmXL9Ax7fLM6lrG+Nc1hRlqCJk0VjEe+ iDLj9GA9ZOco41ABTa07N8CvgmUnRszUEX8Jg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:07:01 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c01003291207x5947c379j40c1e1e93d1536a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: kripsens free jazz/ search From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Much as I love Eivind Aarset, I wouldn't really consider his work free at all. There are improvisational elements but he's definitely playing pre-composed material. I wouldn't even say its that avant garde either though that may just be me and my ideas of what constitutes that label. Otherwise, EA is truly fantastic and one of my favorite musicians of late. Kevin On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: > forgot: > > eivind aarset-i have 'connected' & 'light extracts'. again no idea how to > describe him. > i've heard the term "nu-jazz" > no idea what that means. > the 2 discs are band projects and he does some pretty cool electronic style > guitar w/ it... > there are some youtube clips of him too... > i know he's done some other band projects w/ folks in europe (can't remember > the name he recorded w/), but i've heard good reviews of the stuff. > > s--- > > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 19:12:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19DDF3BE94; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269889935; bh=t56bp8EUQN+pqLAo5h49Nce9qx66GubpVZiRt85GAOY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=29RurKNVjn5Sh25VAerXFRa9UZHPFlhR0xsW2ICsTCjcPAwawIsIDDwZh/licsIKvezPXtrrU0Z9bt696jgWo0L62ZYzNGEHQsxTe6ThUYXaQS/waYAQ5xf7LxK8doPcIuenQuaZ40gGoFgUiR88KzxMCB8Vvx5LjSHznxEsYvc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=036W6kaoF/Jy8gD8Xy4ojt+SMJ4U71z4gIkxy6EXuXYPHS59Z2vpV25xpJjHGBzUGq1ASK9CYk/OFmdpEGr5a6/BbJCZNgIdKj3RmnDN6HD5GZU2WCrouKfep+9/tQ0yhukrwic5wnYlH4P9S/Bb+g5yrDfB71CE1/kT30KZvik=; Message-ID: <677814.85912.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bpwi6IYVM1l0Bq8EObbCi7naGVaeFd1iCyiieHpOsZbJYPL ndLlFc.ZlQdhS.YM0M6zLN7RKQwk8dlsICfvr79nC31MuiFDtTZGiZvpiyza RaJmQvR2hRc1VHR_eTCdLbZpkt5iIaBAyaHz3ccBBroCJalALc7Za2SWECE8 nFuVYncISauuOcnEYN2BVZA4Z8JiL9icQOMMJWVfVCyO_zsfGHqAxLk2STPz WmBpFkYSTvKsG0twX_GjVti9BcKugfsPyzVJp_ns_4z.uIBNkBpssWWk1JxD .cBt.f521F1oNgkyO1u4ncE05EGpn7emtWFuJlC5Aaxy2hsDy1xPcVydBRpO e8pE5Ps_12Iw20kEljA55IT03UH.e X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:12:15 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2d351f01003291000t1be152bbl9f1176816ecfbcc5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-20402991-1269889935=:85912" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:12:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-20402991-1269889935=:85912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable works great for me.....use it for all my smaller gigs=A0 ;-) Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0 http://www.cdbaby.co= m/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn4JladRinlk --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Akraf Emaho wrote: From: Akraf Emaho Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:00 PM I'd vote against the Taxi btw as a portable solution to anything except hav= ing too much money: horribly voiced speaker, useless for vocals, heavy, ove= rpriced, proprietary battery.=0A=A0=0AAkraf=0A --0-20402991-1269889935=:85912 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
works great for me.....use it for all my smaller gigs = ; ;-)



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--0-20402991-1269889935=:85912-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 19:23:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D29803BE85; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=significantimagery.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:X-Identified-User; b=z4BDRXbFeIbi0K9Li26BSoOaWKyl7ZlIhMhoGo8sGtRA6qLpnVYSICBO3yYO2uttKsmEoBq0PkVB2iNj1a/L6Ff9Jge0zX54DwqGRJn0+Nb1woKsqXOKtATmKFEFaY9T; From: "Nathan Lang" To: Subject: RE: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:22:20 -0500 Message-ID: <709637FB44A269489C5957CCBACAE517011F35DA@townsendexch.townsendprint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01CACF4B.3F58C700" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <677814.85912.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcrPc8BslOELTgI5ShmvqSfmDSTJ2AAABJSQ X-Identified-User: {1585:box565.bluehost.com:signifi1:significantimagery.com} {sentby:smtp auth 68.70.71.110 authed with nathan@significantimagery.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:23:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CACF4B.3F58C700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Crate Limo and I enjoy it quite a bit. Runs for at least 8 hours on one charge at loud volume. Electric guitar sounds.not the best at times but decent enough. Acoustic-Electric and Microphone sound quite nice through it though. On-board reverb and other effects are great.although the effects on mine sometimes randomly change at high bass volume- but that is why I got this amp at a reasonable price :-) I'm curious to hear what those battery powered Traynor amps sound like because I have a Traynor tube amp and I like it a lot. Interestingly enough they look very similar in shape to the Crate Taxi / Limo amps. Would also love to get my hands on a Crate Bass Buss! Those seem incredibly rare to find. -----Original Message----- From: K D Patten [mailto:kdpatten@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves works great for me.....use it for all my smaller gigs ;-) Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4JladRinlk --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Akraf Emaho wrote: From: Akraf Emaho Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:00 PM I'd vote against the Taxi btw as a portable solution to anything except having too much money: horribly voiced speaker, useless for vocals, heavy, overpriced, proprietary battery. Akraf ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CACF4B.3F58C700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a Crate Limo and I enjoy it = quite a bit. Runs for at least 8 hours on one charge at loud volume. Electric = guitar sounds…not the best at times but decent enough. Acoustic-Electric = and Microphone sound quite nice through it though. On-board reverb and other effects are great…although the effects on mine sometimes randomly = change at high bass volume- but that is why I got this amp at a reasonable = price J

 

I’m curious to hear what = those battery powered Traynor amps sound like because I have a Traynor tube = amp and I like it a lot. Interestingly enough they look very similar in shape to = the Crate Taxi / Limo amps.

 

Would also love to get my hands on = a Crate Bass Buss! Those seem incredibly rare to find.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: K D Patten [mailto:kdpatten@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 29, = 2010 2:12 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang = iii - experiences and grooves

 

works great for me.....use it for all my smaller = gigs  ;-)

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box = 22
Johnston, = IA  50131
 
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten        &= nbsp;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn4JladRinlk




--- On Mon, 3/29/10, Akraf Emaho = <akrafemaho@googlemail.com><= /span> wrote:


From: Akraf Emaho <akrafemaho@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:00 PM

I'd vote against the Taxi btw as a portable = solution to anything except having too much money: horribly voiced speaker, = useless for vocals, heavy, overpriced, proprietary battery.

 

Akraf

 

------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CACF4B.3F58C700-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 19:23:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D842A3BE93; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/OXlNBTgpPPzs5vZtzq9wRnFqMq6gK3V6WbThjqoAFM=; b=PNyIepbmnnHuqkVeeitXhI99k6cegM5Q5ddMcqsbDtIeeU5BVcm0G9PST5AwMHYLvF BjI16YBfMwtjaoi0k48Zb7Il3fnR/vtqgxkaMhZwIJvV8DT/laF4CbKgXB5rH+OX0F44 EtH0QPuAQCwqbgNveC44GlsihmWmBpdU2IDj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Wow/Nuqu+94aZvgNO1Tsfx2TOOnqesFUb0R0lf6V9MeedLotAPfZW5XS6j2yF6W7ty cG2WGo3imsiongvJ0LCX5ZrivZqCLZCtVuoBVYXbheKNXAESr7MN8yC1N+v1oMhb+Jes 2fz2JbuzotKG1IVUTr8XBXrWENMIV2+GBrzNM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c01003291207x5947c379j40c1e1e93d1536a@mail.gmail.com> References: <37f071c01003291207x5947c379j40c1e1e93d1536a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:23:25 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003291223w349935a8oef5976a18db07cef@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: kripsens free jazz/ search From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:23:28 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > wouldn't really consider his work free > at all He, he... "free"...? ;-). This discussion is also difficult because usually "avantgarde music" only continues to be "avantgarde" until other players catch up or the originator is starting to repeat the same recipe over and over. Because of this nature of things most true avantgarde music happen over a very short time span and maybe doesn't even get recorded. Interesting discussion to read anyway! Keep digging, folks :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 19:44:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9F943BE84; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dean, Hal" To: Krispen Hartung , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:44:05 -0400 Subject: RE: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Thread-Topic: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Thread-Index: AcrPdUjAGWqnjqT/SQOtHrEaMr/n+QAAPGpA Message-ID: <86FEE8BCF5652949A08D1EB0545EB42404A3C5F091@WCU-EX-EMP1-MB.PASSHE.LCL> References: <4BB0E19A.2080204@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <4BB0E19A.2080204@mhorse.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Kris, You're getting buckets of suggestions that are not trios; I'll stick to the= brief. Bruce Eisenbeil has several trio recording with varying "other instruments"= . VERY out. Rypdal of course, though whether he counts as avant-g any more is a questio= n. Andreas Willers with Grid Mesh - great first CD, new one out soon I find Ben Monder a hit-or-miss proposition but he may have something that = qualifies Much of the work of Masayuki Takayanagi Maybe some Ray Russell, another player whose work I find hit-or-miss, but h= is best is incredible. I have not heard all his music, there may be some tr= ios. Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com]=20 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Here's a few, quick-like: - David Torn - Polytown (w/Terry Bozzio & Mick Karn, brilliant) - Mary Halvorson - Dragon's Head (honestly haven't heard it yet, but she=20 is fantastic, played with Braxton, etc) - Nels Cline Trio - Sad, Chest, Silencer - Nels Cline Singers - all three of their albums, the more recent being=20 the most abstract - Derek Bailey - Mirakle (w/Jamaaladeen Tacama & Calvin Weston - all=20 improvised, fantastic stuff, my very favorite fully improvised gtr trio=20 record) - Hilmar Jensen - Meg Nem Sa - John Abercrombie - Gateway (essential) - Ava Mendoza - not out yet, but soon she'll be recording her trio=20 called Qwok (w/Weasel Walter & Devin Hoff) Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I'm doing music research for a new project I'm putting together. I=20 > need to construct an audio study of free jazz and/or avant-garde=20 > guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better. > =20 > This is what I have so far, not all of which is that far out, but it's=20 > the best I can do. Those with an * next to them are not really free=20 > jazz or avant-garde, but a good representation of the instrumentation=20 > in modern jazz. > =20 > Bill Frisell - Live > Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture > John Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and self titled (with Marc=20 > Johnson and Peter Erskine) > John Scofield - Out Like a Light * > John Stowell -Somewhere * > Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled * > Mike Stern - Standards * > Nels Cline Trio - Ground > Pat Metheny - Trio Live * > =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 20:28:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18C963BE84; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PGocEN7MWsrDYXhHePlf/g/td47lVuPqibpqKVawUwA=; b=BjuiXjvGZs1DF6rcV3jRExtTtDzWdU8YVW2nmiM6ppGdDB5cx2X8cj1/QDaWtT7mu9 nxF1RfOiBejSLZ6rAR/Uy8OMcMTy5iLcSdW040AfGjDel+VS+H0ciK4J6S9uCw1yeg4z xS4zbFLyx5wg4SaGAIPDscxl6FwwULbJmVrXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lVMoh+vRzJdjw2n97vTamY8wdcbFxl60tIqSbF978vVYF9Hcm71wjmYxtU4z4JpxKF 21rxzGkANausp9xgEiLYF29UstE2xmI/gCh6OeLSr+ABSE2F8/Sst7OgqJeI/2ORjP+w GYf+wCjo/Ku+o5ISIRGX9mhqeMXNUo6eCNR0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: kripsens free jazz/ search From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f93da65114b7a0482f65c9d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:28:45 +0000 (UTC) --00c09f93da65114b7a0482f65c9d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 oh, i forgot. my other fave of late: the free form funky freqs. it's vernon reid w/ calvin weston, and bassist from prime time. i love that disc. there are a # of youtube clips of them also. not sure if they are really jazz, but they are a trio, & they are good and out there! & funky!! yea, the "labels", i'm not really sure on a lot of them. the avant garde thing is tricky...the term in art world is sort of dead also. and probably has been for 50 yrs....and maybe never really existed, just the group of folks going against the norm, ahead of the time.... s--- --00c09f93da65114b7a0482f65c9d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh, i forgot. my other fave of late: the free form funky freqs. it's ve= rnon reid w/ calvin weston, and bassist from prime time.
i love that dis= c.
there are a # of youtube clips of them also.
not sure if they are = really jazz, but they are a trio, & they are good and out there! & = funky!!

yea, the "labels", i'm not really sure on a lot of them. = the avant garde thing is tricky...the term in art world is sort of dead als= o. and probably has
been for 50 yrs....and maybe never really existed, j= ust the group of folks going against the norm, ahead of the time....
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--00c09f93da65114b7a0482f65c9d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 20:36:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AD443BE85; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LmHX3PJ52TgWcURNMBysIT7VCpakG8QIv/U6aDbtoeQ=; b=jWIgD6Zc4QMyOojJHMWyTUjax9tSrpAJz52XdCr/ing1K2kPUQB2nkYUUpa34c6xpZ o7SJtjtNQu2+sc6EWwSpxRuj4UQ633TGi/foAGLKPa700GT+xvDhGtqaig49RBA8ysqm 3pHKLq9qCOCu/uQaO1vtjOzkE0EyZQ0ULl0yA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YZIvuAPc9nNIbhSky9Y18VJbw+ajOdowljK7pmPkiDLHnrk5yiJLwKlEEm/Z3tSgte YG7vB0bHYL++3UYgV6CBXTfWt36hSjIOlOSZ70aoxuxd4hCrrfocuKsEJFe4oa5ubVid us15AW7Gitr4rn1Of11s4+mQcll7CDMEclWsA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:36:57 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b1003291336w2a86e065ra1bf78edd4d0851b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <5pwPQC.A.1EF.r9QsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Hal suggested: > Andreas Willers with Grid Mesh - great first CD, new one out soon Don't know this project, but anything by Andreas Willers has to be good... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 20:41:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95C973BE85; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <19432672.409.1269889187228.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <19432672.409.1269889187228.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Free Jazz/Avant Guard... Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:40:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03EC_01CACF4D.D5B52390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2010 20:41:11.0772 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B00D9C0:01CACF80] Resent-Message-ID: <-c6v0.A.cMF.oBRsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:41:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03EC_01CACF4D.D5B52390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Man, yuu guys are killing me. I am a downloading fool. This is great. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Scott Hansen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:52 PM Subject: Free Jazz/Avant Guard... krispen- my knowledge of jazz stuff is very limited. and these aren't straight = gtr, bass, drums....but what i know that's close: -there is the scofield loop album-that has a band w/ it, came out a = few yrs ago. it's decent, he uses an boss rc20 for looping in it = (uberjam) -any of nels cline singers discs are good-i'm not sure how i'd = categorize them, honestly. but he uses gtr-drums-bass... -one of my fave discs of late is the david torn "prezens" disc-that's = gtr, drums, horn, keyboards (& electronics)-but i love that disc (there = are youtube clips too, dt usually says they're pretty limited in audio = content, but i like them for sound reference) -there is also the polytown disc, dt w/ bozzio and mick karn, trio = improv from early 90s-also a great disc- dt also played on marty fogel's "many heads a bobbin" & lonely = universe- are band projects that he contributed guitar too. they are = good i think. and there is also his 'cloud about mercury' dics w/ a band oh, and the BLUE disc and the live disc from that-are excellent -i = love the live disc-it's bruford and levin, and dt and crhis botti plays = trumpet. there is also: the henry kaiser "plane crash" power trio-it's not really jazz, more = improv, experimental. but it's good. HK probably has a few other band = project discs, but i'm=20 drawing a blank sitting here.... oh, michael "nemoguitar" klobuchar has an old band called "Klutter" = -it was a gtr bass drums improv group he did, i have 2 or 3 discs of it. = of things recorded to 4-track. some interesting band interaction on it, = again-i'm not sure if it's "jazz" more outthere improv/experimental. = maybe he can comment on it..... oh, the live frisell east/west double disc it hink is straight = guitar/bass/drums. it's good. he does some loop things, oh and his other = live disc from the 90s ("Live") is good. i just realized i have a scary amt of bill frisell discs...most are = good (unspeakable, good dog happy man, intercontinentals, frisell motian = carter, bf w/ holland & jones) do you have his "power tools" disc-w/ ronald shannon jackson and = melvin gibbs-from back in '87-i had this on album, it was actually = REVIEWED in rolling stone back in 80s -how i heard about it. it's also = good. and i know that there are some live discs from this band, but the = guitarist pete cosey fills in for frisell-i've always been curious about = it. another disc i had back in the 90s. sonny sharrocks "ask the ages", it = was a trio w/ pharoah saunders on horn on a few cuts-i think it's out = there. i sadly got rid of this yrs ago, and wish i still had it. copies = of it now are kind of pricey, and i've not wanted to plunk down the $$ = for it.... these are the ones off the top of my head (& my very limited = knowledge....) s---- www.myspace.com/scotthansen ------=_NextPart_000_03EC_01CACF4D.D5B52390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Man, yuu guys are killing me. I am a = downloading=20 fool.  This is great.
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Scott=20 Hansen
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 = 12:52=20 PM
Subject: Free Jazz/Avant = Guard...

krispen-
my knowledge of jazz stuff is very limited. = and=20 these aren't straight gtr, bass, drums....but what i know that's=20 close:

-there is the scofield loop album-that has a band w/ it, = came=20 out a few yrs ago. it's decent, he uses an boss rc20 for looping in it = (uberjam)
-any of nels cline singers discs are good-i'm not sure = how i'd=20 categorize them, honestly. but he uses gtr-drums-bass...
-one of my = fave=20 discs of late is the david torn "prezens" disc-that's gtr, drums, = horn,=20 keyboards (& electronics)-but i love that disc (there are youtube = clips=20 too, dt usually says they're pretty limited in audio content, but i = like them=20 for sound reference)
-there is also the polytown disc, dt w/ bozzio = and=20 mick karn, trio improv from early 90s-also a great disc-
dt also = played on=20 marty fogel's "many heads a bobbin" & lonely universe- are band = projects=20 that he contributed guitar too. they are good i think. and there is = also his=20 'cloud about mercury' dics w/ a band
oh, and the BLUE disc and the = live=20 disc from that-are excellent -i love the live disc-it's bruford and = levin, and=20 dt and crhis botti plays trumpet.

there is also:
the henry = kaiser=20 "plane crash" power trio-it's not really jazz, more improv, = experimental. but=20 it's good. HK probably has a few other band project discs, but i'm =
drawing=20 a blank sitting here....

oh, michael "nemoguitar" klobuchar has = an old=20 band called "Klutter" -it was a gtr bass drums improv group he did, i = have 2=20 or 3 discs of it. of things recorded to 4-track. some interesting band = interaction on it, again-i'm not sure if it's "jazz" more outthere=20 improv/experimental. maybe he can comment on it.....

oh, the = live=20 frisell east/west double disc it hink is straight guitar/bass/drums. = it's=20 good. he does some loop things, oh and his other live disc from the = 90s=20 ("Live") is good.
i just realized i have a scary amt of bill = frisell=20 discs...most are good (unspeakable, good dog happy man, = intercontinentals,=20 frisell motian carter, bf w/ holland & jones)
do you have his = "power=20 tools" disc-w/ ronald shannon jackson and melvin gibbs-from back in = '87-i had=20 this on album, it was actually REVIEWED in rolling stone back in 80s = -how i=20 heard about it. it's also good. and i know that there are some live = discs from=20 this band, but the guitarist pete cosey fills in for frisell-i've = always been=20 curious about it.

another disc i had back in the 90s. sonny = sharrocks=20 "ask the ages", it was a trio w/ pharoah saunders on horn on a few = cuts-i=20 think it's out there. i sadly got rid of this yrs ago, and wish i = still had=20 it. copies of it now are kind of pricey, and i've not wanted to plunk = down the=20 $$ for it....

these are the ones off the top of my head (& = my very=20 limited knowledge....)
s----
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------=_NextPart_000_03EC_01CACF4D.D5B52390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 20:45:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C452E3BE84; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XeqPG9gfqgIEVc/r/rdAlRDS7giSp9iQQpOqv39Qr70=; b=FB/YffplFbwZVVWdkiL5YGk+XWzkWFVmjobfoqoPTptmZhB8CDZ6680u8cAHZkO8Ef 1ekT0PUJ0eP8BkvfII/pGLq5U+wiknOIZdK1bQhWfsX2pgUxAa1GO6SLwIQvSXe7Hwu2 cLjcyKkgEUbd5P2ZGV18KCSs2zE4+z11uInYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QRsBg7y6168WIetEH41qg4j6DWzjgBb4gxie37elVznIfBhsMg1e9g3wcm0w/+UBQb cUSQyex/JCR+Y7BzQsZzugpl+Q0xWGPWuNxHl3qV3Hlcw1/2iQmLegrFrZ5FhvwLgi5j zoFVcS58k5qv/Bpx+6CdiiQEvO8CNxOkW9+cQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:45:08 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003291345o23768caeq161179aa39877591@mail.gmail.com> Subject: "labels" (Re: kripsens free jazz/ search) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:45:10 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > yea, the "labels", i'm not really sure on a lot of them. the avant garde > thing is tricky...the term in art world is sort of dead also. and probably > has > been for 50 yrs....and maybe never really existed, just the group of folks > going against the norm, ahead of the time.... Yes, but pretty funny too! :-) Dada is even tricker to wrap your head around (wich in fact is its raison d'etre!) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 23:00:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0895B3BE81; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <6865516.561.1269895403562.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <6865516.561.1269895403562.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:00:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2010 23:00:44.0008 (UTC) FILETIME=[A93EAE80:01CACF93] Resent-Message-ID: <9aKGoB.A.XbH.dETsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:00:45 +0000 (UTC) I'm loving Tin Drum Stories by Andreas. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Hal suggested: >> Andreas Willers with Grid Mesh - great first CD, new one out soon > > Don't know this project, but anything by Andreas Willers has to be good... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 23:22:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 683703BE87; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3Nnr5R1HE0MA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=pBOR-ozoAAAA:8 a=gmKLEPYfAAAA:8 a=Ae5ulsatAAAA:8 a=MgX-oEZ5OkAzvHWMLtgA:9 a=ZBVk2cTJUfCLYZMa5bIUFJzQasgA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hkODgbchuuYA:10 a=yL35hg9bHsA9Xadf:21 a=C08eOXle_N-FEuG5:21 Message-ID: <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:22:27 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: NEW STEVE TIBBETTS CD "NATURAL CAUSES" COMING OUT IN MAY In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003291345o23768caeq161179aa39877591@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.118.35.162 by ssomail.charter.net; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:22:24 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:22:30 +0000 (UTC) I don't know about the rest of you folks. But this is a musician I am absolutely crazy, crazy, crazy about and have been for years. I consider myself very lucky to have seen him perform live before he retired from public performance altogether in the mid '80s. It's been a few years since he released his previous disc on ECM And this new title hasn't shown up on amazon.com US yet But it's on Amazon in UK, DE and FR and due out in May 3rd 2010. The very thought that I'll have something new to look forward to hearing from Tibbetts in a month or so gives me a ray of hope. I may just order it from Amazon.uk anyway, damn the expense. Just thought I'd share . . . he was, after all, very much a looper when he did perform live. :-) Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 23:25:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6EBE3BE88; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rQWbOTJBvhGfZDXQorcVeSMNTs5IGCuymScBEmn2xpk=; b=uJVcYUcJTHQS7zWFMGm187H1pdVXM675y6taMyPZOF4WZtsUfbEBbHa2L6xHWifggh mPUcOTYVqiUIzzTMWx0FNnd3sf+y+u5UagchNPVGN330OM1+d9xXHfpOJI8DfDxw5zPe n5s83CApsKaxRsaDOhw6MHaXjtMPmvXDpmzdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XBaqz7pmedT9BWLW+bOQxpbCa3AHEH4r1+/vxM7nLq7MxgRv1r2zk5zqYpD/3KoAsQ apkqtajDingSAO6jBDmKJ2ipq414b27Hm4zmI6mT+jehL0bXSOuab/+BZo6Pm0IjQG4Q xXnarZRMvyylxcAQcm81oUHuQqWjjIF0LZYN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> References: <66f9cc1e1003291345o23768caeq161179aa39877591@mail.gmail.com> <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:25:56 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003291625x639cc7b0r52441d7b0c51e16b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NEW STEVE TIBBETTS CD "NATURAL CAUSES" COMING OUT IN MAY From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e887be5c8002d0482f8d59c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4e887be5c8002d0482f8d59c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW FUCKING AWESOME! I've been wondering where Steve went, so weird that h= e would do those masterful series with Marc in the late 70/80's and disappear. Excellent news Ted - where did you hear of this? made my day which has been challenging with the lawyers, guns and money.... J On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wr= ote: > I don't know about the rest of you folks. > > But this is a musician I am absolutely crazy, crazy, crazy about and have > been for years. > > I consider myself very lucky to have seen him perform live before he > retired from public performance altogether in the mid '80s. > > It's been a few years since he released his previous disc on ECM > > And this new title hasn't shown up on amazon.com US yet > > But it's on Amazon in UK, DE and FR and due out in May 3rd 2010. > > > > < > http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0038QBP7A/rateyourmu08f-21/ref=3Dn= osim/ > > > > > > The very thought that I'll have something new to look forward to hearing > from Tibbetts in a month or so gives me a ray of hope. > > I may just order it from Amazon.uk anyway, damn the expense. > > Just thought I'd share . . . he was, after all, very much a looper when h= e > did perform live. > > :-) > > Ted > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --e0cb4e887be5c8002d0482f8d59c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW FUCKING AWESOME!=A0 I've been wondering where Steve went, so weird = that he would do those masterful series with Marc in the late 70/80's a= nd disappear.=A0 Excellent news Ted - where did you hear of this?=A0 made m= y day which has been challenging with the lawyers, guns and money....

J

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM, tE= d =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
I don't know about the rest of you folks.

But this is a musician I am absolutely crazy, crazy, crazy about and have b= een for years.

I consider myself very lucky to have seen him perform live before he retire= d from public performance altogether in the mid '80s.

It's been a few years since he released his previous disc on ECM

And this new title hasn't shown up on amazon.com US yet

But it's on Amazon in UK, DE and FR and due out in May 3rd 2010.

<http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0038QBP7A>

<http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN= /B0038QBP7A/rateyourmu08f-21/ref=3Dnosim/>

<http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0038QBP7A>

The very thought that I'll have something new to look forward to hearin= g from Tibbetts in a month or so gives me a ray of hope.

I may just order it from Amazon.uk anyway, damn the expense.

Just thought I'd share . . . he was, after all, very much a looper when= he did perform live.

:-)

Ted




--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural
www.my= space.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--e0cb4e887be5c8002d0482f8d59c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 23:35:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 692A13BE86; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NNS0uAJ7M8tdeMCAWDujPIVN9jZH9+NHtsuF3h9f18U=; b=OmtrlbxaOknCIpfPWsycsZhEpuIkdHd2yP/w1D0khVntCpjij++NItxAdqdhaho6Br crYSOYahQG/axsZcXyabBIKyg2q9i74wctE4MW2QykZYWNCA9mm4CVB4cqGje3c+BKhu LRXlk0teJOTTPO5pqXZV/aZZbjHF5r5WClnGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qyRKS0i/PCnjbPY7VB24jX3ItcYQswDUgkOORbn0OmH+P3+fHJPopJTDGavmW4hnGA qWTNT6FVxUCjF3CwOb+ZXHVt50vsxi54s4/EpLesC1RoxtcLkNfvM0CgvI5wc6nwegTV bP+liamF99pJspjHq/mYswjBGJczd1XXb+Dic= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:35:10 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003291635t583ce7efn3bfaf8154e1da199@mail.gmail.com> Subject: VirtualGigSpam: Jim Goodin Live on Improv Friday this Friday From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636137b51c3bb590482f8f6db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:35:11 +0000 (UTC) --001636137b51c3bb590482f8f6db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Btw while I have everyone's attention about my orgasm on Steve T (absolutely love all he blessed us with), I am doing a live solo webcast this Friday evening and for all you west coasters it's right up your alley, 7pm PST and my show is being hosted by * ImprovFriday* which I'm very jazzed about. The details... *Jim Goodin Live on Improv Friday http://improvfriday.ning.com This Friday, Apr 2, 7pm PST/10pm EST, check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html for times in your part of the world.* Improv Friday is a really inspiring community of like minded souls creating experimental music. Was founded about 2 years ago by J.C. Combs and I just learned about it about 2 months ago. Have found a really fertile ground to be part of. They started hosting live casts a few weeks ago and I'm proud to be doing one for them this Friday, please logon if you are around your techology and the web. Best and thanks. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636137b51c3bb590482f8f6db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Btw while I have everyone's attention about my orgasm on Steve T (absol= utely love all he blessed us with),

I am doing a live solo webcast t= his Friday evening and for all you west coasters it's right up your all= ey, 7pm PST and my show is being hosted by ImprovFriday which I'= m very jazzed about.

The details...

Jim Goodin Live on Improv Friday
http://improvfriday.ning.c= om
This Friday, Apr 2, 7pm PST/10pm EST, check http://www.ti= meanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html for times in your part of the w= orld.

Improv Friday is a really inspiring community of like minded souls crea= ting experimental music.=A0 Was founded about 2 years ago by J.C. Combs and= I just learned about it about 2 months ago.=A0 Have found a really fertile= ground to be part of.=A0 They started hosting live casts a few weeks ago a= nd I'm proud to be doing one for them this Friday, please logon if you = are around your techology and the web.

Best and thanks.


Jim

--
ReUse, an i= ntrospective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.c= om
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapai= ntingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.co= m/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social netw= orking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636137b51c3bb590482f8f6db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 23:54:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53FBB3BE88; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8G7pSV1ePLMFTVojDDkQ5TCCMwKuSVlK5oxrc80FknY=; b=pzQ39r3rztdYaCU+ZzcR+a7azXAR1OC3t1udTgqjt6DmRUkdzisNz7KL5G+TXhXU0W B9SCLZCS5DKCOIvRHiH36vlcknTonTbVyXZGfhCcTWylsaTCYyzipB/YTuFs03Nupvsn 6Z4gC7UVcAL7SWPzl+O1A/CM+HNn5roBXQpEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cwOvxh7FNJrVIl0szEg5p46KGYSN8Ear0f1JMWvgE23PSJvT1nOMvw+TpleIai4AaS GbHOuLhCOIwLnM0zcOS7CL3SJzr89FNPpiYSUNNH2j3Hrbv9GGuxRXPKBSfMv952DHR2 /fyap8OpeSrUc4QmBc3/i7vy3FiP3xKU7UDnU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> References: <66f9cc1e1003291345o23768caeq161179aa39877591@mail.gmail.com> <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:54:11 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c01003291654s6a324a8fq49ee0bb3f0cf58a7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NEW STEVE TIBBETTS CD "NATURAL CAUSES" COMING OUT IN MAY From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Wow! Thanks for the news Ted, I LOVE Steve Tibbets and have for many many years now. Also, he might not be as retired as you think, I saw him and Marc Anderson in 1994 I think it was and I'm pretty sure he toured behind the Tibetan singer that he recorded a couple of albums with a few years back. Granted, that was still over a decade ago though so it may as well be a retirement. Isn't he some kind of cultural ambassador now? Kevin On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:22 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn w= rote: > I don't know about the rest of you folks. > > But this is a musician I am absolutely crazy, crazy, crazy about and have= been for years. > > I consider myself very lucky to have seen him perform live before he reti= red from public performance altogether in the mid '80s. > > It's been a few years since he released his previous disc on ECM > > And this new title hasn't shown up on amazon.com US yet > > But it's on Amazon in UK, DE and FR and due out in May 3rd 2010. > > > > > > > > The very thought that I'll have something new to look forward to hearing = from Tibbetts in a month or so gives me a ray of hope. > > I may just order it from Amazon.uk anyway, damn the expense. > > Just thought I'd share . . . he was, after all, very much a looper when h= e did perform live. > > :-) > > Ted > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 29 23:58:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6452F3BE97; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9rOzZ_tmB7sA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=pBOR-ozoAAAA:8 a=gmKLEPYfAAAA:8 a=Ae5ulsatAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=YBnASPehpQjf8MRhXNIA:9 a=wcTBblQToruFRKr9QquPyOotaS0A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=pufoRJSiRt4A:10 a=K8sKunsjz6wA:10 a=t4fEMkN2Tb8A:10 a=HKjzKo7LuBcA:10 a=j1JV5d43ytUA:10 a=hkODgbchuuYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Oy4jsmhaeO22fg28:21 a=CFldiqKnCsSeF6tV:21 Message-ID: <20100329195803.2XAMF.1415540.root@mp14> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:58:02 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NEW STEVE TIBBETTS CD "NATURAL CAUSES" COMING OUT IN MAY Cc: Jim Goodin In-Reply-To: <9e0440a61003291625x639cc7b0r52441d7b0c51e16b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.118.35.162 by ssomail.charter.net; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:57:58 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: <3MciuD.A.Ed.O6TsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Jimbo, Sounds like the news made your day as much as it did mine. Actually . . . how I found out about it was kind of backwards. I happened to just check out the wikipedia page on him for the heck of it. At the bottom of the page, in his "discography" is an album I never heard o= f. I started doing a Google search based on that little bit of info and found = it on Amazon in Europe (though, sadly not on Amazon .com). It's not even listed on the ECM site yet. He broke his wrist in an outdoor fall from a ladder in the middle of making= his last ECM disc (so the story goes). But I presume that if Amazon.UK, .DE, and .FR are each sporting a page for = it then I expect it's pretty legit. I have high hopes at least. Perhaps this will help me pull out of the doldrums I've been in. I haven't played since January and I haven looped or played electrically si= nce October of '09. I had been thinking of just retiring and slipping quietly out of the whole = LD scene. I've been THAT depressed. Glad to have been able to distract you from your Warren Zevon day (lawyers,= guns and money) with a bit of good news. Cheers, Ted ---- Jim Goodin wrote:=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WOW FUCKING AWESOME! I've been wondering where Steve went, so weird that h= e would do those masterful series with Marc in the late 70/80's and disappear. Excellent news Ted - where did you hear of this? made my day which has been challenging with the lawyers, guns and money.... J On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: > I don't know about the rest of you folks. > > But this is a musician I am absolutely crazy, crazy, crazy about and have > been for years. > > I consider myself very lucky to have seen him perform live before he > retired from public performance altogether in the mid '80s. > > It's been a few years since he released his previous disc on ECM > > And this new title hasn't shown up on amazon.com US yet > > But it's on Amazon in UK, DE and FR and due out in May 3rd 2010. > > > > < > http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0038QBP7A/rateyourmu08f-21/ref=3Dn= osim/ > > > > > > The very thought that I'll have something new to look forward to hearing > from Tibbetts in a month or so gives me a ray of hope. > > I may just order it from Amazon.uk anyway, damn the expense. > > Just thought I'd share . . . he was, after all, very much a looper when h= e > did perform live. > > :-) > > Ted > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From martinskume01@verizon.net Tue Mar 30 00:01:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from web84416.mail.ac2.yahoo.com (web84416.mail.ac2.yahoo.com [68.180.158.112]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 146893BE80 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 78231 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Mar 2010 00:01:26 -0000 Message-ID: <431761.78228.qm@web84416.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1P2K9AsVM1kfAjVS2RHY8lNvynGjDBbcL9VqfPuCcQFpJMp 03fLvMYkNigsUcg4q07JwBA99P5zxm1A7Eh0TmhUU7nOaTIWPaM2ylbq_cXT HT_sKmGnXlvmtYmeGulakShWiXtiJQWO6vyAPplS53a.wm3B.oCsY_x9Z30q qBT4xNjbOWU2jT0uUwq3IibsVRh3QbZKIBhazxAMBJnR.eKm84lrVkzJdnaQ AMbGnsIOYVJ.H3UtHfAo2bELGdOMvapsL16e_cjajrH9815GsNUu8FTC9GMa srqGO1av01YiJPbPnl0Cixl0YQwcfW9gNAlyWk5XkSeqi.BqkzDjzD0UwK5f MJ0jsZHZTMo.b8EwkzmHo6jkhnFeMzj44IYwUSU09.q8CxzyGgZ1LK9wfS6y pQO7NenIfXjGOAl1Ip8LU5XFP_aslBujPlsFEprH7SPOZPfItCNj7R7cYL8J VJ66VfHpfzlgnBt8LSO.isVJvqzou0RK6DSNe6N33wF9hOOhL.kH2a0KTIeZ wHzQ0kE6VAnvE_GdO8QBFhPucJSCjrMaJzwvBh46y__2BS8PXD2OaRhhkefj RFrSfUtLf0E4T7foKK1B8qWBAtdZZoLBJW4sBC5hZSwGgcI5k3S5e71ihF3Y 2unBPCpHRdzdjul90dLQsn1Dj_1zPfdmkDsgHQb4D7IwhiVld0kiqoZTQ5Bd teAgF.x_2h7KGgV9aVFTbs7Q7l4xMZQMwhIg0jC_9D0JUa_W0QaGrklnJgc7 EJhdQY8v_xi4w1_KUXtYBHNAK7S90nyizY0JgGt01jB5z4RQHS5KfwAPFq4K tocAeYrBG7Uz_KaXcyohr5WTWtEeTspdBy_SVPtbQ86v1pmqCIPvazYtB9V_ oU5PoPNKDlQBko5zx4BYb8yzsZucy_hQW3NXnmpE9wcDfupia0g6xxK8P8aQ puJ77yEkCzfoM08qPs.WFLfGN.ZlfpO6vHa8b1ZabEaFyWedbpMhitc.qWdp 0WQR1MULwbrVXyqumeuOd0eI2.A7Qeo3k2vWku3jJNDDSdCnWTsR35iNX1yX nam1vd_Miu1RaY24vZ0CHMDllMfrEx.qUooXFGtqcbSFV8dz6yHkyi22mQ4Q OwxmmAhwFUmMrDnbFRqpvG8Z9dszzr52e0ghDSag3z8cYiD7vYi4WFon19r0 j1pcxFMc6qSsV.nZTVgMmvyrTCTX3Qg3ukA1BNLpT7k2YGLxImsueRZ_IS50 MKRPqlwI4Q0iat2FBhltw39T02rkqVbCHdp73cmDdnHTdDEeIMlI0qgtHLbR Y3IfzVhBguNVTCNb6UqVvnCTsa1qbieE- Received: from [41.191.85.209] by web84416.mail.ac2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:01:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:01:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr.Martin Kume." 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Attn;My Dear,

This is to bring you notice that i have register your ATM VISA CARD with DHL COURIER .And the card's value is $5.5 millions united state dollars,so The delivery charges has been paid but i did not pay their official keeping fees since they refused.Reasons for their refusal is because they do not know when you are going to contact them because the keeping fee is $45 dollars per a day.

And i deposited it yesterday 29th- 03- 2010 So that is reason why i did not pay for keeping fee and that is only you are going to pay them,so i want you to contact them urgent to avoid increase of their keeping fee.

Contact Mr. Chioma Ifezuo
DHL DIRECTOR GENERAL
EMAIL: (dhlcourier03@hosanna.net )
Phone +229 982-647-36

This are the information needed for easy delivery of your CARD.
1.YOUR FULL NAME_____,
2.YOUR HOME ADDRESS______,
3.YOUR PHONE AND CELL NUMBER____,
4.A COPY OF YOUR PICTURE____,
5.YOUR COUNTRY_____,

So as soon as you recieved your card do let me know ok,

Best Regard
Mr.Martin Kume.
--0-731298938-1269907285=:78228-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 00:06:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D07D63BE92; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dY0Hd2V+Ndwn+qms2KNlituEGAlJef98ubnv3pzivBo=; b=DSDTOyx9YjywLYWesZesIj9K9hxPVqJU4/yFYQYkT65d9zvV4XsoiHSmAEP+zvfsO8 IM7Yg0TmHNl8VpUq8/5gSmU3mBNeYc/Ab8PMuoGrXG8Powvtx8BFrvQ2uDc+BofeKPMg GEj+TV9ZvvMb/70n5tESB6UeWK6e0Pluh3lU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AMc8SvdccEmpNMx8c9lQwwY7/4P6ReUWNlcBum8S3B5wgkGhFFKLB0qixSU1wDCa5c ajL2Zjt0MlQFpXMxp7BNDtvEAuTS8Uuk35+p6Ti3ajzshU8N7KD5RgRbQa4Utj9OFxgi ucmc8LcHJzFQCdv3cl4qt294rXB0DjQBXaEmQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6865516.561.1269895403562.JavaMail.root@n34> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:06:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d785457d11cd0482f968b3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:06:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d785457d11cd0482f968b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'd add "aggregates 1-26" by the arto lindsay trio g/b/d (arto lindsay/melvin gibbs/dougie bowne). don't know if this may be considered free jazz, experimental or ... what the heck! ... you'd better give a liste= n to this masterpiece or die :))) http://www.amazon.com/Aggregates-1-26-Arto-Lindsay-Trio/dp/B00000208M 2010/3/30 Kris Hartung > I'm loving Tin Drum Stories by Andreas. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Hal suggested: >> >>> Andreas Willers with Grid Mesh - great first CD, new one out soon >>> >> >> Don't know this project, but anything by Andreas Willers has to be good.= .. >> >> > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d785457d11cd0482f968b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'd add "aggregates 1-26" by the arto lindsay trio g/b/d (art= o lindsay/melvin gibbs/dougie bowne). don't know if this may be conside= red free jazz, experimental or ... what the heck! ... you'd better give= a listen to this masterpiece or die :)))

http://www.amazon.com/Aggregates-1-26-Arto-Lindsay-Trio/dp/B0000= 0208M

2010/3/30 Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com>
I'm loving Tin Drum Stories by Andreas.

Kris

----- Original Message -----

Hal suggested:
Andreas Willers with Grid Mesh - great first CD, new one out soon

Don't know this project, but anything by Andreas Willers has to be good= ...





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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.lum= inada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina= i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podi= en posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

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looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10FB73BE84; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4thuoEO1Kg5eGIMuxWd+7YwP1VfkJwWBlyuZSrM1eKI=; b=HqghAt5sQs+Juy7zLqKohWKorCYgtEHYODhB14obMkvqQCC8AHA9vcPTfB/UCjOqa/ 5/Y1/45ZMPs9AN583S+OtNKFkiDXhubDIchPtR92CUVRIQucW0/ry+QIkmwj+dPfW4pk XpcYVD/gkWChTtmFRfyt9RYmazxyjle0DJ8Ds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hJLcpLgdL8gAbA55fweGH1uBCUVryOqOMw26omM9ewXSo2W8en6yvOW5eteidF88eT 6RcM4ZjKXlzRSto47pP+0IT6OyEA3Uezvrl8DfRcGAqk0dlmImd1Omt1pFGSvZtalBW0 wGhWOXTugVy0XeUyvx+BhTDnB9tJ0/1vLtS/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:18:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: krispen's free jazz/avant garde.... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6adee7ce9b30482f99253 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:18:43 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6adee7ce9b30482f99253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i was looking up free jazz, and a lot of the folks listed are sax/horn players....like i said, is gtr bass drums more of just a trad. jazz setup? i know i hear a lot about organ trios w/ gtr/organ/drums....i saw pat martino play a # of yrs ago in our li'l midwestern town, and i think his performing group was more organ trio, & boy he played fast guitar lines on his semi-hollow... other person listed in wiki free jazz listing besides derek bailey is marc ribot. some others that i just became aware of, not really sure if they are "jazz" or improv based: julien kasper -i just got 2 of his cds, he has a new one out, it's kind of "jazzy", but it is gtr/bass/drums... the other i've been curious about is wayne krantz, he has a new album out also. again i've seen some utube clips, good guitarists, just don't really know how to classify them i've also been going through some old articles that i've kept. a guitarist-bill horist-i think he's mostly solo now-but he had 2 former bands:UnFolkUs & Nobodaddy-both described as "improv groups"-no idea if it's really "jazz"-now he does a lot of prepared guitar looping/noise. i have one of his discs. very percussive, interesting. but he seems to be out there doing this stuff live....(in one of the articles i read it talked about "seattle's avant jazz scene?" at least a few yrs ago) i also have the 1st john mclaughlin album on disc-w/ buddy miles on drums-it's sort of interesting "jazz-rockish" again-i'm not sure if these are exactly-gtr/bass/drums....but the only references i have.... another thing you may want to check out is john zorn -i think he had improvising bands-bill frisell used to play w/ him. haven't heard his stuff, just heard of him.... s---- --000e0cd6adee7ce9b30482f99253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i was looking up free jazz, and a lot of the folks listed are sax/horn= players....like i said, is gtr bass drums more of just a trad. jazz setup?=
i know i hear a lot about organ trios w/ gtr/organ/drums....i saw pat = martino play a # of yrs ago in our li'l midwestern town, and i think hi= s performing group
was more organ trio, & boy he played fast guitar lines on his semi= -hollow...
=A0
other person listed in wiki free jazz listing besides derek bailey is = marc ribot.
=A0
some others that i just became aware of, not really sure if they are &= quot;jazz" or improv based:
=A0
julien kasper -i just got 2 of his cds, he has a new one out, it's= kind of "jazzy", but it is gtr/bass/drums...
=A0
the other i've been curious about is wayne krantz, he has a new al= bum out also.=A0 again i've seen some utube clips, good guitarists, jus= t don't really
know how to classify them
i've also been going through some old articles that i've kept.= a guitarist-bill horist-i think he's mostly solo now-but he had 2 form= er bands:UnFolkUs & Nobodaddy-both described as "improv groups&quo= t;-no idea if it's really "jazz"-now he does a lot of prepare= d guitar looping/noise. i have one of his discs. very percussive, interesti= ng. but he seems to be out there doing this stuff live....(in one of the ar= ticles i read it talked about "seattle's avant jazz scene?" a= t least a few yrs ago)
=A0
i also have the 1st john mclaughlin album on disc-w/ buddy miles on dr= ums-it's sort of interesting "jazz-rockish"
again-i'm not sure if these are exactly-gtr/bass/drums....but the = only references i have....
another thing you may want to check out is john zorn -i think he had i= mprovising bands-bill frisell used to play w/ him. haven't heard his st= uff, just heard of him....
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--000e0cd6adee7ce9b30482f99253-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 00:19:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC0E93BE87; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6WLHB9jFUjnfUnsVF/1KeMQcIJ1lAINfLLGL9qVw8So=; b=YpFhc0FwNrJFoGmWDAtQLGlBCiSikncrUcwKD2Lquw4nqZY2Kn6qKhLaL0LGTpc5XH HF8pGrRX6rM0FmtYvkHp55Tvd7vJiRaqgEQzZRKZXQE8okUy+mJGCPLp29nT2aWmBsoN NuGomBYhcDosLX0/leLDNVfqIdE2Q1qyZcSs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oFKJmz91vg2G1jLBYPbKhF3EaqhpAFhq9QVsV6xek7BQfu7NR+mHp2+TfR9DcJHtvR DPGnYar80uT7avtryilbttzq5pXUS7tgMFYx5s0MHG6nYcY6bf+Uk7EtjniEOFtO1YHK g/5upsf8GoEokHjfYRAB4DHjamX/jMhcIyguA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100329195803.2XAMF.1415540.root@mp14> References: <9e0440a61003291625x639cc7b0r52441d7b0c51e16b@mail.gmail.com> <20100329195803.2XAMF.1415540.root@mp14> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:19:53 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003291719k512ca3a7g1f1c8b7195417be6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NEW STEVE TIBBETTS CD "NATURAL CAUSES" COMING OUT IN MAY From: Jim Goodin To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68f9f1eabad980482f9964c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:19:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68f9f1eabad980482f9964c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted it was wonderful news. I have done the same things in recent times going 'where did Steve go'. I had heard the news about this wrist break an= d knew at some point with the Man called Horse or the Tibetian record that he had been in NY when I was asleep or soemthing, performed at the KF in recen= t years but from all other it looked like he had stopped. ECM is a bit spars= e in artist info so it looked like he had done as you were indicating but thankfully has SOBERED UP which you better be doing too dude! That's depressed ego talking, been there, not productive and truthfully wil= l leave you bitter angry and even more depressed. As someone once said to me 'make some changes but don't throw it all away', you cheat the world as you cheat yourself. You did a brilliant set at Y2K last fall, snap out of man and start playing, in fact do this... join ImprovFriday at http://improvfriday.ning.com and get involved in the weekend recording thread, it will inspire I promise plus you'll be around m= e and I'll nag you more to play. Thanks for spreading the wonderful news of a master returning to the planet= , can't wait! On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:58 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wr= ote: > Jimbo, > > Sounds like the news made your day as much as it did mine. > > Actually . . . how I found out about it was kind of backwards. > > I happened to just check out the wikipedia page on him for the heck of it= . > > At the bottom of the page, in his "discography" is an album I never heard > of. > > I started doing a Google search based on that little bit of info and foun= d > it on Amazon in Europe (though, sadly not on Amazon .com). > > It's not even listed on the ECM site yet. > > He broke his wrist in an outdoor fall from a ladder in the middle of maki= ng > his last ECM disc (so the story goes). > > But I presume that if Amazon.UK, .DE, and .FR are each sporting a page fo= r > it then I expect it's pretty legit. > > I have high hopes at least. > > Perhaps this will help me pull out of the doldrums I've been in. > > I haven't played since January and I haven looped or played electrically > since October of '09. > > I had been thinking of just retiring and slipping quietly out of the whol= e > LD scene. > > I've been THAT depressed. > > Glad to have been able to distract you from your Warren Zevon day (lawyer= s, > guns and money) with a bit of good news. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > > > ---- Jim Goodin wrote: > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > WOW FUCKING AWESOME! I've been wondering where Steve went, so weird that > he > would do those masterful series with Marc in the late 70/80's and > disappear. Excellent news Ted - where did you hear of this? made my day > which has been challenging with the lawyers, guns and money.... > > J > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn >wrote: > > > I don't know about the rest of you folks. > > > > But this is a musician I am absolutely crazy, crazy, crazy about and ha= ve > > been for years. > > > > I consider myself very lucky to have seen him perform live before he > > retired from public performance altogether in the mid '80s. > > > > It's been a few years since he released his previous disc on ECM > > > > And this new title hasn't shown up on amazon.com US yet > > > > But it's on Amazon in UK, DE and FR and due out in May 3rd 2010. > > > > > > > > < > > > http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0038QBP7A/rateyourmu08f-21/ref=3Dn= osim/ > > > > > > > > > > > The very thought that I'll have something new to look forward to hearin= g > > from Tibbetts in a month or so gives me a ray of hope. > > > > I may just order it from Amazon.uk anyway, damn the expense. > > > > Just thought I'd share . . . he was, after all, very much a looper when > he > > did perform live. > > > > :-) > > > > Ted > > > > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016e68f9f1eabad980482f9964c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted it was wonderful news.=A0 I have done the same things in recent times g= oing 'where did Steve go'.=A0 I had heard the news about this wrist= break and knew at some point with the Man called Horse or the Tibetian rec= ord that he had been in NY when I was asleep or soemthing, performed at the= KF in recent years but from all other it looked like he had stopped.=A0 EC= M is a bit sparse in artist info so it looked like he had done as you were = indicating but thankfully has SOBERED UP which you better be doing too dude= !

That's depressed ego talking, been there, not productive and truthf= ully will leave you bitter angry and even more depressed.=A0 As someone onc= e said to me 'make some changes but don't throw it all away', y= ou cheat the world as you cheat yourself.

You did a brilliant set at Y2K last fall, snap=A0 out of man and start = playing, in fact do this...

join ImprovFriday at http://improvfriday.ning.com and get involved in = the weekend recording thread, it will inspire I promise plus you'll be = around me and I'll nag you more to play.

Thanks for spreading the wonderful news of a master returning to the pl= anet, can't wait!




On Mon,= Mar 29, 2010 at 7:58 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:=
Jimbo,

Sounds like the news made your day as much as it did mine.

Actually . . . how I found out about it was kind of backwards.

I happened to just check out the wikipedia page on him for the heck of it.<= br>
At the bottom of the page, in his "discography" is an album I nev= er heard of.

I started doing a Google search based on that little bit of info and found = it on Amazon in Europe (though, sadly not on Amazon .com).

It's not even listed on the ECM site yet.

He broke his wrist in an outdoor fall from a ladder in the middle of making= his last ECM disc (so the story goes).

But I presume that if Amazon.UK, .DE, and .FR are each sporting a page for = it then I expect it's pretty legit.

I have high hopes at least.

Perhaps this will help me pull out of the doldrums I've been in.

I haven't played since January and I haven looped or played electricall= y since October of '09.

I had been thinking of just retiring and slipping quietly out of the whole = LD scene.

I've been THAT depressed.

Glad to have been able to distract you from your Warren Zevon day (lawyers,= guns and money) with a bit of good news.

Cheers,

Ted



---- Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmu= sic@gmail.com> wrote:

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
WOW FUCKING AWESOME! =A0I've been won= dering where Steve went, so weird that he
would do those masterful series with Marc in the late 70/80's and
disappear. =A0Excellent news Ted - where did you hear of this? =A0made my d= ay
which has been challenging with the lawyers, guns and money....

J

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>wrote:

> I don't know about the rest of you folks.
>
> But this is a musician I am absolutely crazy, crazy, crazy about and h= ave
> been for years.
>
> I consider myself very lucky to have seen him perform live before he > retired from public performance altogether in the mid '80s.
>
> It's been a few years since he released his previous disc on ECM >
> And this new title hasn't shown up on amazon.com US yet
>
> But it's on Amazon in UK, DE and FR and due out in May 3rd 2010. >
> <http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0038QBP7A>
>
> <
> http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASI= N/B0038QBP7A/rateyourmu08f-21/ref=3Dnosim/
> >
>
> <http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0038QBP7A>
>
> The very thought that I'll have something new to look forward to h= earing
> from Tibbetts in a month or so gives me a ray of hope.
>
> I may just order it from Amazon.uk anyway, damn the expense.
>
> Just thought I'd share . . . he was, after all, very much a looper= when he
> did perform live.
>
> :-)
>
> Ted
>
>


--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.co= m/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmu= sic.com
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
www.mys= pace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.c= om/jindream
www.you= tube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vim= eo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twi= tter.com/jimgoodinmusic




--
ReUse, an i= ntrospective textural aural
w= ww.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--0016e68f9f1eabad980482f9964c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 02:57:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7950A3BE89; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0ia31mflxKcNZr1Xx5sL165poYg3IBUTkJZlqlfaKp0=; b=TJ7JxM7u7aByWHAqeXlTBg+U5aA91kFYTBRQUUnMiSl2wdr/ZuJDnNeSjPnYzNjW/r 1axhiO6KlBkc17pRbX/pbQFXfYdzBtJtAZ3O0Yw+31J1kRPhzII66kV6Gz6dpGN5+/Ye VQF9+o1XwBiT2hPIXkU44A5q/MG16nDe2JN04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oE62TIquYjI2vwRmgy4LNUZXgJ5TgQk7ScJ6pHKQQ1M0EdcHs50mhqtLoZ7UbZhHQ5 oCyUTKCdaDVxMjpUy4xWw1aoR9YOv50HMLVbQQo6UwBzqz2P2/4kx5yfK7oCZQ0cNw6N p/3IfsQSx3cXBzRXEt7y60kdvky98g2OsleAs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:57:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: was s tibbetts new disc....doldrums... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed6c808cb4390482fbca1f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:57:34 +0000 (UTC) --001636ed6c808cb4390482fbca1f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ted says: "Perhaps this will help me pull out of the doldrums I've been in. I haven't played since January and I haven looped or played electrically since October of '09. I had been thinking of just retiring and slipping quietly out of the whole LD scene. I've been THAT depressed." ted-sorry to hear that you've been down. i will say that life has its ups and downs for sure....i know that honestly when i had the boss rc20 for a yr, i think the only time i looped with it was making the 2 or 3 vids i made for our local patv.... and i honestly don't remember contributing much to the LD site, at least what i remember...(please someone DO NOT pull up all my pathetic posts and remind me! ha). i will say that i've been trying out so much new gear and changing so much in the last 3 months (buy stuff, try it out, sell if don't like) that it feels like i have a revolving door w/ my gear.but as of late i've really been liking the little loop things i do w/ my guyatone md3 (2.6 sec) and my digitech dl8 (8 sec delay loops)-for me simple things work best. and i do know w/ all my stinkin projects i barely have time to play guitar much it seems --and now w/ spring starting, all our activities will be starting too...fun, but more distractions....patience i guess, that's what i tell myself. i will say this talk of free jazz/improv and the new tibbets stuff, i'm sort of excited, i may have to get some new discs for my listening pleasure.... here's to a brighter tues....one day at a time as they say.... scott --001636ed6c808cb4390482fbca1f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ted says: "Perhaps this will help me pull out of the doldrums I&#= 39;ve been in.

I haven't played since January and I haven looped= or played electrically
since October of '09.

I had been thi= nking of just retiring and slipping quietly out of the whole
LD scene.

I've been THAT depressed."
=A0
ted-sorry to hear that you've been down. i will say that life has = its ups and downs for sure....i know that honestly when i had the boss rc20= for a yr, i think the only time
i looped with it was making the 2 or 3 vids i made for our local patv.= ...
and i honestly don't remember contributing much to the LD site, = at least what i remember...(please someone DO NOT pull up all my pathetic p= osts and remind me! ha).
i will say that i've been trying out so much new gear and changing= so much in the last 3 months (buy stuff, try it out, sell if don't lik= e) that it feels like i have a revolving door w/ my gear.but as of late i&#= 39;ve really been liking the little loop things i do w/ my guyatone md3 (2.= 6 sec) and my digitech dl8 (8 sec delay loops)-for me simple things work be= st.
and i do know w/ all my stinkin projects i barely have time to play gu= itar much it seems --and now w/ spring starting, all our activities will be= starting too...fun, but more distractions....patience i guess, that's = what i tell myself.
i will say this talk of free jazz/improv and the new tibbets stuff, i&= #39;m sort of excited, i may have to get some new discs for my listening pl= easure....
here's to a brighter tues....one day at a time as they say....
scott
--001636ed6c808cb4390482fbca1f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 06:04:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E2B83BE84; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> Subject: RE: NEW STEVE TIBBETTS CD "NATURAL CAUSES" COMING OUT IN MAY Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:03:51 +0200 Message-ID: <008601cacfce$cce9afc0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 thread-index: AcrPy1Mugw3H1nzkQE+FzGKDgPR24wAAz/GA X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.204; VDF: 7.10.5.247) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:04:08 +0000 (UTC) > I consider myself very lucky to have seen him perform live > before he retired from public performance altogether in the mid '80s. I saw him a couple of years ago with Choying Drolma - very inspiring, they were both wonderful -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 06:19:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A141E3BE85; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 272973.73885.bm@omp108.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269929987; bh=IZdI7WPpFuYmFG+gZJCOReuthgXmN0Kmc0QNGmllm4A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ve/1/WZj8QdBbNwKXucpvK/WdTPL3Kj+PW321VZbHxxiW96CunIUjvl/UkGwxT/tjINoT39HWZb1HyYa3WZKvmg7EhVE73gNKGXbjMCZ/NVuDhq11byZf5Q9DNg/PH3A6Yu/KN403CMVJ/Cl0vzGA6ZEEefDwoV9Ml0ws0PHD4I= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VkuqcNiEPkbtaa1R4nEZsgP3G9kN6LnpGsliGbOlGtWR/3tW6k0F6LrgM8/oYThE3w2TiiGm2BhOrgZ77qOTV2wurpdxSZ2a6vDwVau6QBWFK8Nk5KBP0pCiLdZ1yFtI0LY00jcRDPLwo5mQDyeIOdLqmZANuetWPRYaECT9v1o=; Message-ID: <165336.57807.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hfvp_tkVM1m79pxtDVJotS6Xglqa5T0Iiu6ozYZoukvAXlWhKZemp_fJuA37BH6iOdU1nmPAqDYrdgktW9k7fCHDZWrxR01UcCuTvDUHo1kUhRRuSN1.b8hD7xfRmvU78sWfKU_bL3Gpp3MKRnWjduwvydTPFCHqhbgVT298NZmim14CXHIMoqHoALXb0TUUZzqdTvigatM6etz4OcdGUi9JlxKZ.YSIojm6w2b1VBH1gswmOl9hUg.5BrH3Bs5dp2sC95.pyrbE9_L_cUvjkjp5b0e7BnceJWZ2nK2pP7DL07Lzu0KeLGYsfwcGbdrBljqe4FaYBKuzNaLFIDaHlftxgYgSoGG7J6v60Oz7c7dg1JCQK9HQxus- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <66f9cc1e1003291345o23768caeq161179aa39877591@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:19:47 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: "labels" (Re: kripsens free jazz/ search) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003291345o23768caeq161179aa39877591@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <9djC.A.2YG.DgZsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:19:47 +0000 (UTC) one of the merits of Dada was that it was kick in the groin of the powers that be. It also created a connexion between art, spiritual matters and political matters. This is re-emerging today. ANtony Hequet ----- Original Message ---- From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 10:45:08 PM Subject: "labels" (Re: kripsens free jazz/ search) On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > yea, the "labels", i'm not really sure on a lot of them. the avant garde > thing is tricky...the term in art world is sort of dead also. and probably > has > been for 50 yrs....and maybe never really existed, just the group of folks > going against the norm, ahead of the time.... Yes, but pretty funny too! :-) Dada is even tricker to wrap your head around (wich in fact is its raison d'etre!) per From msdanielle00@cantv.net Tue Mar 30 08:06:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 989 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:06:20 UTC Received: from rs25s9.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (rs25s9.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.11.173.10]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070D43BE7C for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:06:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cantv.net X-DNSBL-MILTER: Passed Received: from cantv.net (rs20s9.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.109.127.76]) by rs25s9.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/3.0) with ESMTP id o2U7nE5p025672; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:19:14 -0430 X-Matched-Lists: [] Message-ID: <380-22010323074918280@cantv.net> Reply-To: msdanielle00@cantv.net X-ORIGINATOR-IP: 41.202.76.29 From: "msdanielle00@cantv.net" To: msdanielle00@cantv.net Subject: Hello Dear, from Danielle and Henry Akissi Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:19:18 -0430 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Dear,
 
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FROM THE OFFICE OF AKIN SALIF.
AUDITS & ACCOU= NTS DEPT
BANK OF AFRICA (B.O.A)       = ; 

OUAGADOUGOU BURKINAFASO.

E-MAIL :AKI= N_SALIF@SIFY.COM

         = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;          

Attention: Please!!!! 

 

I am Akin Salif. The manager Audit & Accounts dep= t. with the groups Bank of Africa Burkina Faso (BO.A). I am writing to requ= est your assistance to transfer the sum of $15milion United States dollars = into your accounts.


<= FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The above sum belongs to our decease= d customer late Dr George Brumley who died along with his entire famil= y in a plane crash some years ago. And since then, his account has been dor= mant.
 
After my further investigation, I discovered that Dr Geo= rge Brumley died with his next of kin and according to the laws and constit= ution guiding this banking institution stated that after the expiration of = (8) Eight years, if no body or person comes for the claim as the next = of kin, the fund will be channel into national treasury as unclaimed fund. = Because of the static of this transaction I want you to stand as the next o= f kin so that our bank will accord you the recognition and have the fund tr= ansfer to your account.
 
The total sum will be shared as follow= s: 50% for me, 50% for you and expenses incidental occur during the transfe= r will be taking care of by both of us.
 
The transfer is risk f= ree on both sides hence you are going to follow my instruction till the fun= d transfer to your account.

More details information with the text of application= form will be forwarded to you to breakdown explaining comprehensively what= require of you.
 
Your Full Name.............................Your Sex..................................
Your Age..................<= BR>Your Country...........
Passport / driving license....... 
M= arital Status...........
Your Occupation.......    &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;
Your Personal Mobile Number................
Your Personal Fax = Number.....................
 
Thanks
Akin Salif.

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=0A=0A=0A=0A=   --0-1047043315-1269943828=:23557-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 11:33:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85D303BE86; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269948782; bh=+ym5X4/RNw5j5qzH3odyv8oEd+gYadnqG0O+rCyrmnk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WIJmPc1SRQxDLhDftlY8uTGADsfgnNXm0HfM+78ujXpLeKN2k7v57ku6iwrQLhN5R83Jij3AWebonO5xAlEAVBrGSCdlF5v7770He9BQwCbqbBuAXtNU+KcYzUNs6e4GRdxrVdtRe5d9s2LKRnQfScIPk1+N2VNZjrV9PGpoX08= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YB/Fg9G7g3dOVxERO4rhSIaNYnuWevscPw35RK0kxIGCJA8v43YReDPbA/5hvVDKu84vtSP5MtOui+Ip20TMW2FVV2unTDZrXvkqaOmkUDkYH64iMECjS3wmx2DVOSgTOWpy7fN51I01P8uBHsVeV5s+AwAE4E0hoN+2bTdJmXE=; Message-ID: <372041.75294.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Q5c9L_EVM1mS8fVJnTN797iH5.OhG9C5Cu8aKzwiPwuTtiX j1YZqo5c_oEi2bLeLfUDl3yfMdJV7FYclC2dg6Jz6hBtctYD_X3F3pkdgH.k fdARF2xGjeoX9dOzTupNPO7JG.HATTElCKAncM6CxCY60dlZrN6OQved4wIl TatZEu5uKZheT0cYUqsYpHw44f9bkmCBiH3cdELRl5NItaWmy1UafgaXVmtO kJnhw4AMxWG8rlXZa.sPAYQx0.4y6kPstnSgAQoPD2mRvBkjDqh1._BhSfFy NMG1RZzKfRURxl2QLAPrc_hSv4Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:33:02 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-350571485-1269948782=:75294" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:33:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-350571485-1269948782=:75294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't seen anybody mention Joe Morris - not the famed NY Giants running= back, but the Boston-based guitarist/bassist and faculty at the New Englan= d Conservatory.=A0 I'd have to dig around to see all that I've got of his b= ut I know "Age of Everything" (which is great!) is guitar/bass/drums record= ing.=A0 I'm sure he's been in more than that, esp as he's done more than a = few recordings with William Parker.=A0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Mor= ris_(guitarist) And also I'll chip in Mary Halvorson as a great NYC guitarist.=A0 She's usu= ally involved in Anthony Braxton's new ensembles but her MH Trio is g/b/d a= nd there's also her group People.=A0 Just saw her and Jessica Pavone play i= n an attic in Guelph and it was good shit. http://www.maryhalvorson.com/=A0= Nice article on her and Jessica in Signal to Noise a few issues back and I= think another of her groups is mentioned in a recent issue of The Wire. I don't know how hard core free jazz/avant-garde these two are considered -= they're both pretty jazzy but do have an edge to their playing... The problem is that for for this kind of music, anything goes.=A0 You don't= need a "classic" line-up.=A0 If all you've got is two nose-flute players a= nd a bagpiper, you're good to go! Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Kris Hartung wrote: From: Kris Hartung Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 7:11 PM =0A=0A =0A =0A=0AI'm doing music research for a new project I'm =0Aputting = together. I need to construct an audio=A0study of free jazz and/or =0Aavant= -garde guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better.=0A=A0=0AThis i= s what I have so far, not all of which is =0Athat far out, but it's the bes= t I can do.=A0 Those with an * next to them are =0Anot really free jazz or = avant-garde, but a good representation of the =0Ainstrumentation in modern = jazz.=0A=A0=0ABill Frisell - Live=0AJoe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic =0AG= esture=0AJohn Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and =0Aself titled (wi= th Marc Johnson and Peter Erskine)=0AJohn Scofield - Out Like a Light *=0AJ= ohn Stowell -Somewhere *=0ALorne Lofskey - Self Titled *=0AMike Stern - Sta= ndards *=0ANels Cline Trio - Ground=0APat Metheny - Trio Live *=0A=A0=0AAny= others I can add? There must be more than this. =0AOddly, this is a diffic= ult subject to search for on Google and music =0Asites.=A0 There needs to b= e a music search engine that allows you to search =0Aby genre and exact ins= trumentation. =0A=A0=0AKris=0A=A0=0Awww.krispenhartung.com=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A= =0A=0A _______________________________________________________________= ___=0AAsk a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Y= ahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com --0-350571485-1269948782=:75294 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I haven't seen anybody mention Joe Morris= - not the famed NY Giants running back, but the Boston-based guitarist/bas= sist and faculty at the New England Conservatory.  I'd have to dig aro= und to see all that I've got of his but I know "Age of Everything" (which i= s great!) is guitar/bass/drums recording.  I'm sure he's been in more = than that, esp as he's done more than a few recordings with William Parker.=   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Morris_(guitarist)

And also = I'll chip in Mary Halvorson as a great NYC guitarist.  She's usually i= nvolved in Anthony Braxton's new ensembles but her MH Trio is g/b/d and the= re's also her group People.  Just saw her and Jessica Pavone play in a= n attic in Guelph and it was good shit. http://www.maryhalvorson.com/ = Nice article on her and Jessica in Signal to Noise a few issues back and I think another of her groups is mentioned in a recent issue of The Wire.
I don't know how hard core free jazz/avant-garde these two are conside= red - they're both pretty jazzy but do have an edge to their playing...
=
The problem is that for for this kind of music, anything goes.  Yo= u don't need a "classic" line-up.  If all you've got is two nose-flute= players and a bagpiper, you're good to go!


Ted H.


Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Sun,= 3/28/10, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

From: Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com>
Subject: = OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
Received: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 7:11 PM

=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A
I'm doing music research for a new project I'm =0Aputting tog= ether. I need to construct an audio study of free jazz and/or =0Aavant= -garde guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better.
= =0A
 
=0A
This is what I have so far, not all of which is =0A= that far out, but it's the best I can do.  Those with an * next to the= m are =0Anot really free jazz or avant-garde, but a good representation of = the =0Ainstrumentation in modern jazz.
=0A
 
=0A
= Bill Frisell - Live
=0A
Joe= Morris - Antennae and Symbolic =0AGesture
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John Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and =0Ase= lf titled (with Marc Johnson and Peter Erskine)
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John Scofield - Out Like a Light *
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John Stowell -Somewhere *
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Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled *
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Mike Stern - Standards *
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Nels Cline Trio - Ground
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Pat Metheny - Trio Live = *
=0A
 
= =0A
Any others I can add? There must be= more than this. =0AOddly, this is a difficult subject to search for on Goo= gle and music =0Asites.  There needs to be a music search engine that = allows you to search =0Aby genre and exact instrumentation.
= =0A
 
=0A
Kris
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Be smarter t= han spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the= All-new Yahoo= ! 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Dr. Shamsuddeen USMAN
The Honourable Minister of
Finance, Federal Republic of Nig= eria.
http://www.fmf.gov.ng<= /A>.

 
DIRECTOR SCAMMED VICTIM/$3,000,000.00 =

 
BENEFICIARIES.REF/PAYMENTS CODE:06654 $3,000,00= 0.00.
 

Dear  Benef= iciary    

 
        = ;UNITED NATIONS 201= 0 SCAM VICTIMS COMPENSATIONS<= /SPAN> .

 
This is to bring to your notice that I am deleg= ated from the United Nations in conjunction with Federal Government of Nigeria  to pay 150 s= cam victims $3,000,000.00 (THREE MILLION UNITED STATE DOLLAR) each.

 
You are listed and approved for this payment as= one of the scammed victims to be paid this amount, get back to me as soon = as possible for the immediate payment of your $3,000,000.00 compensations f= unds.

On this faithful recommendations,we want yo= u to know that during the last U.N. meetings held at Abuja, Nigeria, it was alarmed so much by th= e world in the meeting on the loss of funds by various individuals to the <= SPAN class=3Dyshortcuts id=3Dlw_1269951425_7>Nigerian scam artists o= perating in syndicates all over the world today.

 
In other to compensate victims, the U.N Body in= conjunction with the Nigerian Government is now paying 150 victims of this= operators $3,000,000.00 each in accordance with the U.N. recommendations.<= /STRONG>

Due to the corrupt and inefficient Banking = Systems in Nigeria, th= e payments are to be supervised by the United Nations' Officials and the Minister of Finance of Nigeria as the corresponding paying bank  UNION TRUST= BANK PLC, LONDON BRANCH ,EN= GLAND.

According to the number of applicants at ha= nd, 114 Beneficiaries has been paid,half of the victims are from the United= States, we still have more 36 left to be paid the compensations of $3,000,= 000.00 each.


Your particulars was mentioned by one of th= e Syndicates (in Central Bank of Nigeria) who was arre= sted as one of their victims of the operations, you are hereby warned not t= o communicate or duplicate this message to him for any reason what so ever = as the U.S. secret service is already on trace of the other criminals. So keep it secret till th= ey are all apprehended.


Other victims who! have no t been contacted= can submit their application as well for scrutiny and possible considerati= on.

You can receive your compensation payments via = any of this options you Choose, DRAFT/CHEQUE PAYMENTS or WIRE TRANSFERS. I shall feed you with further modalities= as soon as I hear from you.

 
We await your urgent response.<= /DIV>
Yours faithfully,
Dr. Shamsudde= en USMAN

--0-1841011471-1269955266=:2445-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 14:15:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B85D83BE84; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <9363478.206.1269949173034.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <9363478.206.1269949173034.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:14:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_062E_01CACFE1.0DFC7300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2010 14:15:06.0224 (UTC) FILETIME=[65AC7F00:01CAD013] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:15:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_062E_01CACFE1.0DFC7300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I listed Morris in my starting list. He's oneof my favorites in = terms of what I call the "raw deal". He has no bells and whistles, = gimmickes, etc...just raw guitar playing with drums and bass. I have = two of his trio CDs, Antennae and Symbolic Gestures. I'll see if I can = find Age of Everything online. I like Halverson too...."Dragon's Head". = :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ditch wrestler=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:33 AM Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios I haven't seen anybody mention Joe Morris - not the famed NY = Giants running back, but the Boston-based guitarist/bassist and faculty = at the New England Conservatory. I'd have to dig around to see all that = I've got of his but I know "Age of Everything" (which is great!) is = guitar/bass/drums recording. I'm sure he's been in more than that, esp = as he's done more than a few recordings with William Parker. = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Morris_(guitarist) And also I'll chip in Mary Halvorson as a great NYC guitarist. = She's usually involved in Anthony Braxton's new ensembles but her MH = Trio is g/b/d and there's also her group People. Just saw her and = Jessica Pavone play in an attic in Guelph and it was good shit. = http://www.maryhalvorson.com/ Nice article on her and Jessica in Signal = to Noise a few issues back and I think another of her groups is = mentioned in a recent issue of The Wire. I don't know how hard core free jazz/avant-garde these two are = considered - they're both pretty jazzy but do have an edge to their = playing... The problem is that for for this kind of music, anything goes. = You don't need a "classic" line-up. If all you've got is two nose-flute = players and a bagpiper, you're good to go! Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Kris Hartung wrote: From: Kris Hartung Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 7:11 PM I'm doing music research for a new project I'm putting = together. I need to construct an audio study of free jazz and/or = avant-garde guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better. This is what I have so far, not all of which is that far out, = but it's the best I can do. Those with an * next to them are not really = free jazz or avant-garde, but a good representation of the = instrumentation in modern jazz. Bill Frisell - Live Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture John Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and self titled = (with Marc Johnson and Peter Erskine) John Scofield - Out Like a Light * John Stowell -Somewhere * Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled * Mike Stern - Standards * Nels Cline Trio - Ground Pat Metheny - Trio Live * Any others I can add? There must be more than this. Oddly, = this is a difficult subject to search for on Google and music sites. = There needs to be a music search engine that allows you to search by = genre and exact instrumentation.=20 Kris www.krispenhartung.com =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email = the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail ------=_NextPart_000_062E_01CACFE1.0DFC7300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think I listed Morris in my starting = list. He's=20 oneof my favorites in terms of what I call the "raw deal". He has no = bells and=20 whistles, gimmickes, etc...just raw guitar playing with drums and = bass.  I=20 have two of his trio CDs, Antennae and Symbolic Gestures.   = I'll see=20 if I can find Age of Everything online.  I like Halverson = too...."Dragon's=20 Head".   :)
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ditch=20 wrestler
To: Loopers = Delight
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 = 5:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Free = Jazz/Avant-Garde=20 Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios


I haven't seen anybody mention Joe Morris - = not the=20 famed NY Giants running back, but the Boston-based = guitarist/bassist and=20 faculty at the New England Conservatory.  I'd have to dig = around to=20 see all that I've got of his but I know "Age of Everything" = (which is=20 great!) is guitar/bass/drums recording.  I'm sure he's been = in more=20 than that, esp as he's done more than a few recordings with = William=20 Parker. =20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Morris_(guitarist)

And = also I'll=20 chip in Mary Halvorson as a great NYC guitarist.  She's = usually=20 involved in Anthony Braxton's new ensembles but her MH Trio is = g/b/d and=20 there's also her group People.  Just saw her and Jessica = Pavone=20 play in an attic in Guelph and it was good shit.=20 http://www.maryhalvorson.com/  Nice article on her and = Jessica in=20 Signal to Noise a few issues back and I think another of her = groups is=20 mentioned in a recent issue of The Wire.

I don't know how = hard=20 core free jazz/avant-garde these two are considered - they're = both=20 pretty jazzy but do have an edge to their playing...

The = problem=20 is that for for this kind of music, anything goes.  You = don't need=20 a "classic" line-up.  If all you've got is two nose-flute = players=20 and a bagpiper, you're good to go!


Ted=20 H.



Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner=20 Herzog

--- On Sun, 3/28/10, Kris Hartung=20 <khartung@q.com> wrote:

From:=20 Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com>
Subject: OT: Free=20 Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Sunday, March = 28,=20 2010, 7:11 PM

I'm doing music research for = a new=20 project I'm putting together. I need to construct an = audio study=20 of free jazz and/or avant-garde guitar/bass/drum trios...the = more=20 obscure the better.
 
This is what I have so far, = not all of=20 which is that far out, but it's the best I can do.  Those = with an=20 * next to them are not really free jazz or avant-garde, but a = good=20 representation of the instrumentation in modern = jazz.
 
Bill Frisell - = Live
Joe Morris - Antennae and = Symbolic=20 Gesture
John Abercrombie - In the = Moment,=20 November, and self titled (with Marc Johnson and Peter=20 Erskine)
John Scofield - Out Like a = Light=20 *
John Stowell -Somewhere = *
Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled=20 *
Mike Stern - Standards = *
Nels Cline Trio - = Ground
Pat Metheny - Trio Live = *
 
Any others I can add? There = must be more=20 than this. Oddly, this is a difficult subject to search for on = Google=20 and music sites.  There needs to be a music search engine = that=20 allows you to search by genre and exact instrumentation. =
 
Kris
 
 
 
=
Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email = the boot=20 with the All-new=20 Yahoo! Mail ------=_NextPart_000_062E_01CACFE1.0DFC7300-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 14:20:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A00923BE88; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <9363478.206.1269949173034.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <9363478.206.1269949173034.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:20:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0644_01CACFE1.DCD15CE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2010 14:20:52.0133 (UTC) FILETIME=[33DA0550:01CAD014] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:20:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0644_01CACFE1.DCD15CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is what I've gather so far, in terms of what I liked: Bill Frisell - Live Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture John Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, Gateway I and II, and self=20 titled (with Marc Johnson and Peter Erskine) John Scofield - Out Like a Light * Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled * Mike Stern - Standards * Nels Cline Trio - Ground Pat Metheny - Trio Live * Derek Baily (Joseph Holbrooke Trio) - The Moat Recordings Marc Ducret (Live in France and Live in Poland)=20 Mary Halvorson Trio (Dragon's Head) Andreas Willers (Tin Drum Stories) Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0644_01CACFE1.DCD15CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is what I've gather so far, in = terms of what I=20 liked:
 
Bill Frisell - Live
Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic = Gesture
John=20 Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, Gateway I and II, and self =
titled=20 (with Marc Johnson and Peter Erskine)
John Scofield - Out Like a = Light=20 *
Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled *
Mike Stern - Standards *
Nels = Cline=20 Trio - Ground
Pat Metheny - Trio Live *
Derek Baily (Joseph = Holbrooke=20 Trio) - The Moat Recordings
Marc Ducret (Live in France and Live in = Poland)=20
Mary Halvorson Trio  (Dragon's Head)
Andreas Willers (Tin = Drum=20 Stories)
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_0644_01CACFE1.DCD15CE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 14:24:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 121803BE8A; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dean, Hal" To: Loopers Delight Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:24:27 -0400 Subject: RE: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Thread-Topic: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Thread-Index: AcrQE2qsOIMpPN2JRX+dB6ZeWKyBzAAAGuBg Message-ID: <86FEE8BCF5652949A08D1EB0545EB42404A3C5F82C@WCU-EX-EMP1-MB.PASSHE.LCL> References: <372041.75294.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <372041.75294.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_86FEE8BCF5652949A08D1EB0545EB42404A3C5F82CWCUEXEMP1MBPA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <2nHp1C.A.xWE.dmgsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:24:29 +0000 (UTC) --_000_86FEE8BCF5652949A08D1EB0545EB42404A3C5F82CWCUEXEMP1MBPA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to echo the raving about Halvorson, though I was surprised by NOT mu= ch liking "Dragon's Head". My favorite work of hers so far is "Cracklekno= b" with Nate Wooley, among others, and the Thirteenth Assembly record. I'm = dying to see her live, a small woman with a big woody guitar making this sp= lendid sound. Hal Dean From: ditch wrestler [mailto:ditchwrestler@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:33 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios I haven't seen anybody mention Joe Morris - not the famed NY Giants running= back, but the Boston-based guitarist/bassist and faculty at the New Englan= d Conservatory. I'd have to dig around to see all that I've got of his but= I know "Age of Everything" (which is great!) is guitar/bass/drums recordin= g. I'm sure he's been in more than that, esp as he's done more than a few = recordings with William Parker. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Morris_(g= uitarist) And also I'll chip in Mary Halvorson as a great NYC guitarist. She's usual= ly involved in Anthony Braxton's new ensembles but her MH Trio is g/b/d and= there's also her group People. Just saw her and Jessica Pavone play in an= attic in Guelph and it was good shit. http://www.maryhalvorson.com/ Nice = article on her and Jessica in Signal to Noise a few issues back and I think= another of her groups is mentioned in a recent issue of The Wire. I don't know how hard core free jazz/avant-garde these two are considered -= they're both pretty jazzy but do have an edge to their playing... The problem is that for for this kind of music, anything goes. You don't n= eed a "classic" line-up. If all you've got is two nose-flute players and a= bagpiper, you're good to go! Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Kris Hartung wrote: From: Kris Hartung Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 7:11 PM I'm doing music research for a new project I'm putting together. I need to = construct an audio study of free jazz and/or avant-garde guitar/bass/drum t= rios...the more obscure the better. This is what I have so far, not all of which is that far out, but it's the = best I can do. Those with an * next to them are not really free jazz or av= ant-garde, but a good representation of the instrumentation in modern jazz. Bill Frisell - Live Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture John Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and self titled (with Marc John= son and Peter Erskine) John Scofield - Out Like a Light * John Stowell -Somewhere * Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled * Mike Stern - Standards * Nels Cline Trio - Ground Pat Metheny - Trio Live * Any others I can add? There must be more than this. Oddly, this is a diffic= ult subject to search for on Google and music sites. There needs to be a m= usic search engine that allows you to search by genre and exact instrumenta= tion. Kris www.krispenhartung.com ________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the b= oot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail --_000_86FEE8BCF5652949A08D1EB0545EB42404A3C5F82CWCUEXEMP1MBPA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have to echo the raving about Halvorson, though I was surprised by NOT much liking “Dragon’s Head”.  My favorite work of hers so far  is “Crackleknob” with Nate Wooley, among others, and the Thirteenth Assembly record. I’m dying t= o see her live, a small woman with a big woody guitar making this splendid so= und.  

 

Hal Dean

 

From: ditch wrestle= r [mailto:ditchwrestler@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:33 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios

 


I haven't seen anybody mention Joe Morris - not the famed NY Giants runni= ng back, but the Boston-based guitarist/bassist and faculty at the New Engla= nd Conservatory.  I'd have to dig around to see all that I've got of hi= s but I know "Age of Everything" (which is great!) is guitar/bass/drums recording.  I'm sure he's been in more than that, = esp as he's done more than a few recordings with William Parker.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Morris_(guitarist)

And also I'll chip in Mary Halvorson as a great NYC guitarist.  She'= s usually involved in Anthony Braxton's new ensembles but her MH Trio is g/= b/d and there's also her group People.  Just saw her and Jessica Pavone = play in an attic in Guelph and it was good shit. http://www.maryhalvorson.com/  Nice article on her and Jessica in Si= gnal to Noise a few issues back and I think another of her groups is mentioned= in a recent issue of The Wire.

I don't know how hard core free jazz/avant-garde these two are considered= - they're both pretty jazzy but do have an edge to their playing...

The problem is that for for this kind of music, anything goes.  You don't need a "classic" line-up.  If all you've got is two nose-flute players and a bagpiper, you're good to go!


Ted H.



Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Sun, 3/28/10, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wr= ote:


From: Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com>
Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 7:11 PM

I'm doing music research for a new project I'm putting together. I need to construct an audio study of free jazz and/or avant-garde guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better.

 

This is what I have so far, not all of which is that far out, but it's the bes= t I can do.  Those with an * next to them are not really free jazz or avant-garde, but a good representation of the instrumentation in modern j= azz.

 

Bill Frisell - Live

Joe Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture

John Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and self titled (with Marc Johnson= and Peter Erskine)

John Scofield - Out Like a Light *

John Stowell -Somewhere *

Lorne Lofskey - Self Titled *

Mike Stern - Standards *

Nels Cline Trio - Ground

Pat Metheny - Trio Live *

 

Any others I can add? There must be more than this. Oddly, this is a difficul= t subject to search for on Google and music sites.  There needs to be = a music search engine that allows you to search by genre and exact instrumentation.

 

Kris

 

 

 

 

Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-n= ew Yahoo! Mail

--_000_86FEE8BCF5652949A08D1EB0545EB42404A3C5F82CWCUEXEMP1MBPA_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 14:27:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27C083BE86; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 672 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:27:22 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=q3SD99BfF/s9kelCxGJt7wPHjrDEZvEKc63AIT5mPQrHhxDVyTeW7S96bv0muVqZ; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <4EEE9FB4-68B2-4D82-A348-6506E49DFC75@earthlink.net> From: Paul Sullivan To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:15:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec798ff0697fe8b53ee375cdff384f10f5d8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 208.120.69.247 Resent-Message-ID: <3bxB4C.A.sbE.KpgsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Lots of great suggestions here, allow me to add one more. Lambic Jones is exactly that, a guitar/bass/drum trio with Percy Jones (Brand X) on fretless bass, and Stephen Moses (Alice Donut) on drums and trombone playing completely improvised music that includes looping...oh yeah, the guitar player is me, Paul Sullivan. You can see us here, http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lambic+jones&search_type=&aq=f I keep forgetting to post gigs here, but we had a packed house at the Bitter End last Saturday, and we're also playing in Bushwick Brooklyn (NY) at Goodbye Blue Monday this Friday, April 2nd. There's lots of videos on youtube, and we have an album forthcoming, also... thanks for looking, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 15:18:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BB1F3BE87; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Xr2UorQfVYbcA3wmdesjgxpnLkK/9BUtMefUY5se4S3YEMnYw1+uXtcS0UKrNsOG; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <165336.57807.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003291345o23768caeq161179aa39877591@mail.gmail.com> <165336.57807.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:07:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: "labels" (Re: kripsens free jazz/ search) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a4273990774d20180043b3ed0dd7fe0e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.125.160 Resent-Message-ID: <7ncAwD.A.qJF.RZhsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:18:42 +0000 (UTC) >one of the merits of Dada was that it was kick in the groin of the >powers that be. It also created a connexion between art, spiritual >matters and political matters. >This is re-emerging today. > >ANtony Hequet Really? Who are the Duchamps of today as you see it? -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 15:38:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBB1E3BE87; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 986931.97015.bm@omp121.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269963518; bh=qH5wVQOHAu2oT5nXS8WTbcLmd2R1x/zERJrhgeO2QIM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v07dgm72QfPJO13qbAOxasD46Q04RwLWnFISCYAshRrtutHS2Wg9czHLGWg7T8S05SOuaG9/yx/aiYj6HsVhEa96XEGGu6rJxHbCLs0eQproF7alJNgGCLuDzFA2r85te8xM102DeIJM/yi/HxdD9aN3RbwGGYR3lDdvuG4pADY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CRUggpHLaVrA+D478pCv80E9qsRb1xKlZ02mbOAqMpin/fmjto55Ihkq+Qr32jhzf/yocxxYid1ou09Lqv21t3Uq08ohlWZyUc4p1wbIriBLyjLOi1VIDtBb56AJhYr2sy2G0a4jZzEtEZEZgSj4cC5jcGX41Tl1E4F8omfJS8s=; Message-ID: <597667.18293.qm@web65605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9VhVYZYVM1nd0ZfD_ccOCIWTmLGyaAbsMRUyK75S6jZR32. ftFuTyUifD6x1Xy7aCynMlnnG7lsR68EwN8SIqMFmNs_CCcXPq5ZrcrvDV0w M75PJ9ypFvFvt4erfsToGBvkJpA_8z9dSeYBxTbWvZMMRsgCX2_3xC6yBD7k vC7KGjKdukV9Z3ERZ1x9yvz_BJLB5lLdtCjGNGzhbHDp3MByt1miXN9b8t7f dVtwo2MMlM_gg_EFs2JKzZ9nNE.74OSTtiVcA588dqCuFAMxRoAgE.qZin0v MIVRLyb_j1U7kRe6bQ9ta4RrEEn.Ma7vxmdiRLJmGyJMXwGn1HifUux_4f2O SBVzHr5tLzwbwj0tvH7kXbw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:38:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: "labels" (Re: kripsens free jazz/ search) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:38:39 +0000 (UTC) I wish I knew, wish I could say me. my hero is more Antonin Artaud despite his drug habit. His writtings Are a big inspiration Antony Hequet Sent from my iPhone On 2010-03-30, at 16:07, Charles Zwicky wrote: one of the merits of Dada was that it was kick in the groin of the powers that be. It also created a connexion between art, spiritual matters and political matters. This is re-emerging today. ANtony Hequet Really? Who are the Duchamps of today as you see it? -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 15:39:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2173BE8C; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2768 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:39:07 UTC X-Authentication-Warning: daysite.net: apache set sender to miked@michaeldimin.com using -f Message-ID: <37673.24.29.43.11.1269960778.squirrel@daysite.net> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: From: "Mike Dimin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: mike@michaeldimin.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at daysite.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Although mostly a bass clinic, I will be performing with my 'Rang III in Chicago on April 8th. Her is the official PR As part of the commitment to the Chicago Bass Community, Jauqo III-X’s has invited Bassist, Educator and the Author of “The Art of Solo Bass”, Michael Dimin to present a free clinic at www.cpesound.com 345 North Loomis Street, Chicago, IL 60607 on Thursday Evening, April 8, 2010 at 7:30 pm. It has been said of Michael Dimin that "Above it all he is a supreme musician, with a singular, unique voice on his instrument." (Max Valentino - talkbass.com). Mike as dedicated the past thirty years to expanding the role of the bass and educating a legion of bassists to the possibilities that lie within themselves and their instrument. Through his groundbreaking books, "The Chordal Approach" and subsequent “The Art of Solo Bass” (Mel Bay) and through his work as a lesson columnist for Bass Guitar Magazine, Bassics Magazine and Bass Frontiers Magazine, Mike has brought the concept of solo bass as well as arranging for solo and multiple basses to the fore. As a product specialist for Zon Guitars and Euphonic Audio, Mike has been given the opportunity to combine the two things he loves most, playing and teaching bass. Mike has been featured in Bassics Magazine, Bass Frontiers Magazine, ForBassPlayersOnly.com, Talkbass.com, and Global Bass Magazine. Mike has taught at Gerald Veasley’s Bass Boot Camp, The National Summer Guitar Workshop, The Bass Collective and more. This event is presented by Jauqo III-X, Zon Guitars, Euphonic Audio Amplifiers and C.P. E. Sound. For more information contact: jauqo@yahoo.com Thanks, hope to see you there Mike Dimin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 15:44:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 696183BE90; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y1jaJER1pVtk8G13DVmujRr3iQEgvkypEL8KS0ZXEZU=; b=R/o10Oeo01xmEMkBA0MUgOGodNZP4rf33mTan6xfBaGHt8Yb98NFImS5LIx2A4uUtD 9H9GtYYl2L91meQ9sZEbcfnERxXKcsTAdi0bNv7FVKc2N4Maku32lWO8WDG1jxYzetpx 33wh3yoiGi0u3aRzJwTNlTfQY57valFcfuYLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eZHZ8Hz1MnTFsfYVQoBJBbTefW99N1hSTrjnb6nrH/FOgsqeTzCMRP2Xsr4TVTFy8z mZhuM7iubUuOKrRRFsFn59HfrVB/q8pw94s0BHOrdWVZ7iU4k4Mtdm9hhFPs+D5m1K7r RfgooVQK8vJ7vezARXmbI5TjYLJRolpj5ag4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <597667.18293.qm@web65605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <597667.18293.qm@web65605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:44:07 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003300844p604c7cadm734814114b8aa562@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "labels" (Re: kripsens free jazz/ search) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:44:10 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Antony Hequet wrote: > I wish I knew, wish I could say me. my hero is more Antonin Artaud despite his drug habit. His writtings > Are a big inspiration Nice to see that! Artaud has been one of the biggest sources of inspiration for me as well! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 15:45:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A8E43BE8D; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jdpbY95Jld7hc6lzebo2gAo4GLyrgINvVAC4ejsqtSc=; b=P3rAhIkzVS3ki3dBKNnBPk7b12TZTiIoAbDw/Gf8AP40jawuUey6+2lMwLyQn+JTJD +Jo0dA3PggVDs76Jcrso0liyhgcO50HzKl+2jet/U1J9zjs/oq0RjCoPxZ7N4Gs2Ifpw 2h7md+Wkl1+N1nZvkLm5/f4GrtRZRmfa1p7/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=j51v+9AmNMw+1T+jU8DcNvY79GyHoyFGD81yqOWiJY1gyhN+o4VcGRhT3u8WtycSgu 6EvxJ6O20fDOrQKH7ULJqrTn2NXmvTw4uTAE1osHBu42/cMg+qmmHF5BbDxDqad5ja0P CoDmgK2E5mK+DJSAPoApad0hJ2gu7wRGKfMsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:45:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: kripsens free jazz/ search( ....& things...) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd14b18fb8f3f0483068591 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:45:50 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd14b18fb8f3f0483068591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i found one vid on the joe morris-hmmm, he looks interesting, may have to explore him more..... funny reading the arto lindsay reviews from amazon : "I've always wondered whether Arto Lindsay tunes his guitar. With the amount of noise and dissonance that comes out of it I am inclined think not;" that makes me laugh--when i was doing my tuning exploration a few yrs ago-i wondered that myself-why bother tuning-it sounds so cool untuned! ha! but i will say the sounds he gets, whether he tunes or not are most COOL!!! yea, as for the dada comments-i do believe that dada is one of the biggest movements that influenced all of the art world in the 20th century...and it spilled out to main world in many ways too.... the chaos, nonsense, absurdity, humor, juxtaposition of images/material....probably explains most of our world today....all thanks to duchamp and that crazy group of disillusioned artists after WWI..... s--- --000e0cd14b18fb8f3f0483068591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i found one vid on the joe morris-hmmm, he looks interesting, may have to e= xplore him more.....

funny reading the arto lindsay reviews from ama= zon :
"I've always wondered whether Arto Lindsay tunes his guit= ar. With the amount of noise and dissonance that comes out of it I am inclined think not;"

that makes me laugh--when i was doing my tuning explorati= on a few yrs ago-i wondered that myself-why bother tuning-it sounds so cool= untuned! ha!
but i will say the sounds he gets, whether he tunes or=A0 = not are most COOL!!!

yea, as for the dada comments-i do believe that dada is one of the bigg= est movements that influenced all of the art world in the 20th century...an= d it spilled out to
main world in many ways too....
the chaos, nonsen= se, absurdity, humor, juxtaposition of images/material....probably explains= most of our world today....all thanks to duchamp and that crazy group of d= isillusioned artists after WWI.....

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--000e0cd14b18fb8f3f0483068591-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 15:47:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B997A3BE95; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hnt/iNNCuyxf4/+r85WKu7ok6h6xh9eB7deZ846MHzQ=; b=iYEQtHBzfmjybe1Cpwnk0Y9qbQjOKgqZnFCZDjLK0n54TW7bnvPjETE6DWsCMUBYKv Nnblt6oUm25YvCAnt0mmUq1Uf4fzvoX+lI1P2c7ApGLTjw7Ky3JOj5Plz5pB2GrZBH+1 +uTC6vOJP/q8DkZ+U4h/isSmhLT3lCJS5KtaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=v5cKhmo0t6kYEe60KuRM/0AbZW9kMJLElgcztOr2hD8sltYL1LuSyIW5DdfNIXu3Cs 4wv/cIPoL47iHKbGpNYoSN19UTPXSbJ1VM69XQ6MpM8rkybQdpyWPbrUlPJ+4IjwHGlF TRAMKLQz2HBsgfCXlektTFkAtB4WKFkiTSW8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:47:05 +0200 Message-ID: <7a9df3e51003300847s13235261n67402d286cb86de6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Fuel tank 12dc juicy lucy to power 9v dc pedals,safe? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364163cd9fe1b00483068a76 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:47:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016364163cd9fe1b00483068a76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi gang, would it be safe tu use something like the the fuel tank juicy lucy http://t-rex-effects.com/Default.aspx?ID=94&ProductID=PROD8&VariantID (which puts out 5X 12v dc of 300ma for each output) for the following pedals: adrenalinn (normally requires 9v dc 500ma) tc harmony G (normally requires 12v dc 500ma) tc VT create (normally requires 12v dc 500ma) EH micro POG (requires 9,6V DC 200 mA) so as you can see: the adrenalinn requires more ma than the usual 9v dc pedals,and it does not run on batteries would it be ok then to use the 12v for it? the tc harmony G is 12v but requires 500ma (more than what the juicy can provide per output)but i can use a doubler cable to use 2 of the outputs of the juicy to use a total of 600ma that leaves me with the tc VT create and the EH Micro pog,this one does not take batteries either would it be safe to use the 12v dc? ive been told some 9v dc pedals take 12v dc without any problems... cheers Luis --0016364163cd9fe1b00483068a76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang,
would it be safe tu use something like the the fuel tank juicy = lucy

http://t-rex-effects.com/Default.aspx?ID=3D9= 4&ProductID=3DPROD8&VariantID
(which puts out=A0 5X 12v dc of 300ma for each output)

for the follo= wing pedals:

adrenalinn (normally requires 9v dc 500ma)
tc harmon= y G (normally requires 12v dc 500ma)
tc VT create (normally requires 12v= dc 500ma)
EH micro POG (requires 9,6V DC 200 mA)

so as you = can see:
the adrenalinn requires more ma than the usual 9v dc pedals,an= d it does not run on batteries would it be ok then to use the 12v for it? the tc harmony G is 12v but requires 500ma (more than what the juicy can pr= ovide per output)but i can use a doubler cable to use 2 of the outputs of t= he juicy to use a total of 600ma
that leaves me with the tc VT create and the EH Micro pog,this one does not take batteries either would it be sa= fe to use the 12v dc?
ive been told some 9v dc pedals take 12v dc withou= t any problems...
cheers
Luis
 --0016364163cd9fe1b00483068a76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 16:03:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA76F3BE8E; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=loymekktFIQA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=pBOR-ozoAAAA:8 a=0oRxfzh3gkDUUPFMAugA:9 a=NOWilCNKLOsCjUF3a4zDdp7vK1cA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hkODgbchuuYA:10 Message-ID: <20100330120353.8VABW.1441836.root@mp05> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 9:03:52 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: NEW TERJE RYPDAL CD "CRIME SCENE" COMING OUT IN MID APRIL In-Reply-To: <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.118.35.162 by ssomail.charter.net; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:03:49 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Well, well, well. It seem that we have an abundance of riches to look forward to in the near future. I just checked Amazon.com (US) and there is a new disc from Terje Rypdal coming out on April 19th entitled "Crime Scene". Coupled with the news of the new Steve Tibbettes CD in early May, I think that things are beginning to look up. There's no description or anything up there yet but the title and art are posted at: Happy days are here again! Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 16:05:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7981B3BEB2; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: was s tibbetts new disc....doldrums... Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:04:52 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.17.92 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 31226-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC9E39DDBD6363-1A2C-92F@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:05:11 +0000 (UTC) doldrums!.....thank GOD none of my knives are sharp.....this was a=20 tough winter, the world is STILL in a heap of mayhem.....SPRING HAS=20 SPRUNG, pretty much.....get out into the SUN, this is the only=20 cure!!!!!.....put on a KLUTTER CD and sing along!.....:)m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 16:06:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DF1A3BEBE; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5iiaIjOKD5iqcy67A993bLfIrYEp10QgL+uVHuydmqc=; b=wiEvInJcn73ciqsJ+/rLmT07kRnVbbKAB4fQQXaPbm0CgTEW8c4k9sieWLBLyUkwDC JR6iMcOgdLTQlT8hTlw3pvENX1nrQZD7Apc+j0AlSLpWROC4TJGL+3TLkRI6Pfi4fCFm HlfWvX1+rYAYWatjYNIOspxIbqsu/+nKj32cQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Pq65UdO/PUDM+F4u24/U1HJJjhMB0BXAwinuJS9rtgd/R8xIzklVSO93ApTMx6GtQe arGYlazXMSqkfikelZ7W2omA1uJXtKfHCCF0YqQJEZe+FNBolz67PRWU0+Vi20Yrvg3/ izSPvmTdNeVAosnVq42Shv51ObX21MKal1368= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100330120353.8VABW.1441836.root@mp05> References: <20100329192227.EXTZO.1416908.root@mp15> <20100330120353.8VABW.1441836.root@mp05> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:06:25 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003300906ha341979gc4bf1eb95268cb70@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NEW TERJE RYPDAL CD "CRIME SCENE" COMING OUT IN MID APRIL From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34ca6c159d2048306cfca Resent-Message-ID: <46pOND.A.dFG.CGisLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) --001636d34ca6c159d2048306cfca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted I'll control myself but this is more good news, maybe ECM is rebirthing. I remember Krispen played something by Terje on his first radi= o show and it was first hearing of him in a long time. Thanks for announcing this. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:03 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn w= rote: > Well, well, well. > > It seem that we have an abundance of riches to look forward to in the nea= r > future. > > I just checked Amazon.com (US) and there is a new disc from Terje Rypdal > coming out on April 19th entitled "Crime Scene". > > Coupled with the news of the new Steve Tibbettes CD in early May, I think > that things are beginning to look up. > > There's no description or anything up there yet but the title and art are > posted at: > > < > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crime-Scene-Terje-Rypdal/dp/B00369K2P0/ref=3Dsr_1= _2?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dmusic&qid=3D1269964404&sr=3D1-2 > > > > Happy days are here again! > > Cheers, > > Ted > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636d34ca6c159d2048306cfca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted I'll control myself but this is more good news, maybe ECM is rebirt= hing.=A0 I remember Krispen played something by Terje on his first radio sh= ow and it was first hearing of him in a long time.=A0 Thanks for announcing= this.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:03 PM, tEd =AE ki= LLiAn <tedki= llian@charter.net> wrote:
Well, well, well.

It seem that we have an abundance of riches to look forward to in the near = future.

I just checked Amazon.com (US) and there is a new disc from Terje Rypdal co= ming out on April 19th entitled "Crime Scene".

Coupled with the news of the new Steve Tibbettes CD in early May, I think t= hat things are beginning to look up.

There's no description or anything up there yet but the title and art a= re posted at:

<http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crime-Scene-Terje-Rypdal/dp/B0036= 9K2P0/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dmusic&qid=3D1269964404&sr=3D1-= 2>

Happy days are here again!

Cheers,

Ted




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--001636d34ca6c159d2048306cfca-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 16:07:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABC403BED6; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=M0_eSjbjFzwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=pBOR-ozoAAAA:8 a=0oRxfzh3gkDUUPFMAugA:9 a=q9JJk_74_cnbmyVJaC3_7OQa600A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hkODgbchuuYA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=uezAe7rKe5oGOmHS:21 a=pkD-AdjleAM5v8UH:21 Message-ID: <20100330120756.WXO4L.1442121.root@mp05> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 9:07:56 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NEW TERJE RYPDAL CD "CRIME SCENE" COMING OUT IN MID APRIL In-Reply-To: <20100330120353.8VABW.1441836.root@mp05> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.118.35.162 by ssomail.charter.net; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:07:54 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Ooops. That link was for Amazon.uk. Here is the link for the US Amazon.com Sorry folks. Still good news though. :-) Ted ---- "tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn" wrote:=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Well, well, well. It seem that we have an abundance of riches to look forward to in the near = future. I just checked Amazon.com (US) and there is a new disc from Terje Rypdal co= ming out on April 19th entitled "Crime Scene". Coupled with the news of the new Steve Tibbettes CD in early May, I think t= hat things are beginning to look up. There's no description or anything up there yet but the title and art are p= osted at: Happy days are here again! Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 16:08:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC6AF3BEE1; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vf49de8I6Pc/O3i/ruXoGzssszY7xoF4QCkN4PEj2O8=; b=SyPqJ/RgJUehzqyqgLQHtGxbS7aneLGUQWRL/dnh7jPc+EgSxgA3a09knCc7nuBGBN bK5mRUE0QOSZZdjV9wo/s8E0Kv9pAL05rc+NzMIgnwLKWJNNf81KVBpHrYmxeFDffO3V TlyyEZVy3ScGYfXVhfE/fiLO1zFDj8+YQxl9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=spJpeK/ZaF0jXl/0DDWK5jemK2ECbcYxntd1RLn1XxQf+uh26zeBNCqBK39MyOV/tV V5fKrI2xslW/TqNlow9jHm2M84ZJA3wNkNudHnwqtW/0Vk8XAWAPyTM1zMW/HqSVSCMK MtxduheBRDdQfFsp55zt7Su2zWIC4R4TUR7F4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003300844p604c7cadm734814114b8aa562@mail.gmail.com> References: <597667.18293.qm@web65605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003300844p604c7cadm734814114b8aa562@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:08:51 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c01003300908k63fa0e46r3ed5702c5a25d308@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "labels" (Re: kripsens free jazz/ search) From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:08:52 +0000 (UTC) > Nice to see that! Artaud has been one of the biggest sources of > inspiration for me as well! :-) Way OT now, but I was looking to read some Artaud and I found a book called "Artaud and the Gnostic Drama" by Jane Goodall! The same Jane Goodall who pioneered Chimpanzee studies. Too bad its checked out, I feel I have to read this one now. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 16:28:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAF763BEE6; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EolF2KaqvRZ0g5mAPEE4eLtsRKm33w95UgsgfDRc928=; b=r5m2V/MdJCaNVFgsPG77LfK/zf81LI5yIZQARC+PSVdWvAkxzg2hPuFPG0oSqm2q9S BMtvW9IJnti1Pwm+pYE1XJhQMJxWanfFfj5OH4O8MT0rCeOFQxOVesW37sSNHbxxz2On MHVHbGybVMrlphWjPVX4jjeFZgGKPHSyZ8m3w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d9qoiflKxV0rC83TsfiMN7urIFGuHfr3OBRGjRSCxYL29r886ltt6r9NZ+h2zsE0w0 PHPhdgeKSs6BcRSSnbvup9d8EqRfhSuiKyQFwVlxcSkuInitIOH4AqlucaaLZLeQpRJv a+0zpn1KjmtOn/BuIyyNZPfQdcCGM/q3lwG2U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c01003300908k63fa0e46r3ed5702c5a25d308@mail.gmail.com> References: <597667.18293.qm@web65605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003300844p604c7cadm734814114b8aa562@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c01003300908k63fa0e46r3ed5702c5a25d308@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:28:51 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003300928w29f5934tc6b531bcecffe204@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "labels" (Re: kripsens free jazz/ search) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_wpZtC.A.ybG.HbisLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:28:55 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Way OT now, but I was looking to read some Artaud and I found a book > called "Artaud and the Gnostic Drama" by Jane Goodall! =C2=A0The same Jan= e > Goodall who pioneered Chimpanzee studies. =C2=A0Too bad its checked out, = I > feel I have to read this one now. Picking up the OT thread... Loved reading about her Chimpanzee studies! Didn't know she covered Artaud as well! Interesting. These OT wanderings tend to become quite rewarding on this list :-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 16:43:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 650B63BE8B; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <20100313135123.690583BFBB@arsenic.violacea.com> <08b572fef279f3b80f17d921ab192716.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <29384701.445.1268522319977.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <29384701.445.1268522319977.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:42:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_06FF_01CACFF5.BB8170C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2010 16:43:07.0516 (UTC) FILETIME=[13561BC0:01CAD028] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:43:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_06FF_01CACFF5.BB8170C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thought I would close this out. I bought two mics. First, I bought an Audio Technica Pro 70. This is a = clip on condernsor mic for guitar or voice applications. I can actually = wrap a piece of cloth around the mic and it slides nicely under the wood = pick guard of the guitar, pointing toward the f-hole. No feedback, = decent tone...great for live applications and blending in the natural = sound of the guitar with my amp. http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/e6f7342e8d1ceed3/index.html/= Then I bought a Shure KSM 137, which I really like. I talked to one of = Shure's engineers, who has been with them for 25 years, and also happens = to be a jazz archtop player. This is what he uses (obviously). It does = a good job at capturing the nuances of the archtop. It also has a few = things that not all of these pencil type condensor mics have, such as a = three way level switch, and three roll-off settings (one being flat). http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_KSM137-SL_= content Kris ------=_NextPart_000_06FF_01CACFF5.BB8170C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thought I would close this = out.

I bought two mics.  First, I bought an Audio Technica Pro = 70. This=20 is a clip on condernsor mic for guitar or voice applications. I can = actually=20 wrap a piece of cloth around the mic and it slides nicely under the wood = pick=20 guard of the guitar, pointing toward the f-hole.  No feedback, = decent=20 tone...great for live applications and blending in the natural sound of = the=20 guitar with my amp.
 
http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/e6f7342e8d1ceed3/i= ndex.html/
 
Then I bought a Shure KSM 137, which I really like.  I talked = to one=20 of Shure's engineers, who has been with them for 25 years, and also = happens to=20 be a jazz archtop player. This is what he uses (obviously).   = It does=20 a good job at capturing the nuances of the archtop. It also has a few = things=20 that not all of these pencil type condensor mics have, such as a three = way level=20 switch, and three roll-off settings (one being flat).
 
http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/= us_pro_KSM137-SL_content
 

Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_06FF_01CACFF5.BB8170C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 16:57:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E74C3BE88; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:56:57 +0900 To: From: Mech Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:57:08 +0000 (UTC) At 8:11 PM -0600 3/28/10, Kris Hartung wrote: >I'm doing music research for a new project I'm putting together. I >need to construct an audio study of free jazz and/or avant-garde >guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better. What say you about Fred Frith? I know that he worked with guitar/bass/drums when he teamed up with Bill Laswell and Fred Maher to form Massacre in the early 80's. Their debut effort (and only album with this line-up) "Killing Time" is brilliant. But while they're quite "avant", it's pretty heavy so might not really qualify as "jazz". I understand that Frith and Laswell reformed Massacre in the late '90's sans Maher -- drummer Charles Hayward replacing him -- but I've not heard any material (no pun intended) from the later lineup. Still, the guy has worked with, like, a billion other people in the avant/experimental scene. He has to have done more traditional avant-jazz with guitar/bass/drums *somewhere*, eh...? --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 17:09:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 066D43BEA2; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1KRLqH+tCdcPmkt5FU63Nr9J3sZWELS7QqnNqtLuPjQ=; b=Byw9683dBtKRJhmufn911cLV5PWvkawsjYTyQ6kGLUWjLJnZlZIrAHEgb7FBdobcnW Y36qStCjXEQ9Kb3Mhto7W4hHBjVDoby0X1h4ya1kxW8GtFrExegNv0rTNXsvKcGxxzQB nr5DHk+LgK/3XgaALJrEmU1kbw+amUhHFHiZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FNZWe4+Vmf+pP0x/JAt9+Gw/S9Kb5cG3MGucpcqvQbw9umXOhP+Dj4qybQVi59Rpev 4Xyh0/Tbkgya1HoRqzGcWP8SBJJ8r978eRtRsYAW20bIke7Yv8UIJIGKJELX5WO3BMJy hSO3oiVSDldG39say93vQlyQo+whAXkISinxQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:09:10 -0400 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b1003301009y5a01f2edkc5ecdea03177d0d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Mackie Routing w/ an EDP..? From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Hey loopers, I've been thinking of getting a new Mackie board for my loop rig and to tell the truth, it's not just cause of preamps/sound. The VLZ series, I believe 14ch and up have this one tiny feature that I can't find on any other mixer, it's that little button that says "fold aux 2 back to aux one" or something like that, I'm not quoting here.. Anyway, as one of the more typical setups go, I like to run my EDP through the one of the aux, usually the first. And I like to run my effects through the second. But, what I don't like is running the output of the effects back into a new channel. This was ok, when I was mostly focused on studio work. But, now in this live looping situation, I find the extra gain staging annoying. I mean, there's already enough to think about, why do I need one more level of gain...seems like I'm constantly adjusting it. Thus the Mackie. So I guess my questions are this: 1. Does anyone route their stuff this way w/ a Mackie? Does that little button work like a champ....a good experience? and 2. Does anyone have any alternative ideas besides the two methods listed above? Thanks, Andy G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 17:26:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDD733BEC4; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <18179071.209.1269968618601.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <18179071.209.1269968618601.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:25:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2010 17:26:19.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C4BE790:01CAD02E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:26:20 +0000 (UTC) I have only a few items from Fred, one of which is a nice video DVD that Hal sent me! Actually, I saw Fred play in person in Oakland at Mills College a few months ago, with Bob Ostertag. But I don't have any of his trio stuff. So what is the title of one of his guitar/bass/drum sessions? Kris ----- Original Message ----- > At 8:11 PM -0600 3/28/10, Kris Hartung wrote: >>I'm doing music research for a new project I'm putting together. I need to >>construct an audio study of free jazz and/or avant-garde guitar/bass/drum >>trios...the more obscure the better. > > What say you about Fred Frith? I know that he worked with > guitar/bass/drums when he teamed up with Bill Laswell and Fred Maher to > form Massacre in the early 80's. Their debut effort (and only album with > this line-up) "Killing Time" is brilliant. But while they're quite > "avant", it's pretty heavy so might not really qualify as "jazz". I > understand that Frith and Laswell reformed Massacre in the late '90's sans > Maher -- drummer Charles Hayward replacing him -- > but I've not heard any material (no pun intended) from the later lineup. > > Still, the guy has worked with, like, a billion other people in the > avant/experimental scene. He has to have done more traditional avant-jazz > with guitar/bass/drums *somewhere*, eh...? > > --m. > -- > _____ > "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 18:11:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CF373BE86; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <18179071.209.1269968618601.JavaMail.root@n34> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:10:55 +0900 To: From: Mech Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:11:06 +0000 (UTC) At 11:25 AM -0600 3/30/10, Kris Hartung wrote: >I have only a few items from Fred, one of which is a nice video DVD >that Hal sent me! Actually, I saw Fred play in person in Oakland at >Mills College a few months ago, with Bob Ostertag. Okay, now I'm really frickin' jealous. ;) >But I don't have any of his trio stuff. > >So what is the title of one of his guitar/bass/drum sessions? Group name = Massacre Albums: Killing Time (1981) Funny Valentine (1998) Meltdown (2001) Lonely Heart (2007) Also, just read about another trio Frith formed with Kato Hideki (bass), and Ikue Mori (drum machines) called Death Ambient. Haven't heard that one yet, however. --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 18:26:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6D2D3BE99; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XdRLB/iW8mH6bTZLiYIDdWMWlxwBdnxkl4zsSSPvqOI=; b=aye60pALGyjQjEwYOgTwNtMxpB0tWXQFYJiGetLmIX1UZ4muiXIEao0PCp1K5iSfyL k5Qs+HPiVemcZTnuIDvQPijN1WLJja9nHI5jAs9pGbq2p6AhvIHTVCT3AeuI0u+ELHol slBSQtpyG2/nJu2H2fZ9CFDsIErxDoiorZ4ms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JrLyhtPqipc2wLcy0LzAQEJcJR/h88f83kQm8BNeOGIwI3rjBiDRmKYJOwVk6qfXk7 NX44aVIt31IYEUsykVVktPy3KSa2p6KCiPNP/SqaWxYnm3mtommKvxFtq+mKuij1finR OI3QjkQ0i+vRAsMZIA3KSRvhPf/QnNA1A9NaY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:26:53 +0200 Message-ID: <7a9df3e51003301126u34ebede8we9b847ac8ebe3c50@mail.gmail.com> Subject: power supply for fx pedals question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d778db1a962d048308c6aa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:26:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d778db1a962d048308c6aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi gang, would it be safe tu use something like the the fuel tank juicy lucy http://t-rex-effects.com/Default.aspx?ID=94&ProductID=PROD8&VariantID (which puts out 5X 12v dc of 300ma for each output) for the following pedals: adrenalinn (normally requires 9v dc 500ma) tc harmony G (normally requires 12v dc 500ma) tc VT create (normally requires 12v dc 500ma) EH micro POG (requires 9,6V DC 200 mA) so as you can see: the adrenalinn requires more ma than the usual 9v dc pedals,and it does not run on batteries would it be ok then to use the 12v for it? the tc harmony G is 12v but requires 500ma (more than what the juicy can provide per output)but i can use a doubler cable to use 2 of the outputs of the juicy to use a total of 600ma that leaves me with the tc VT create and the EH Micro pog,this one does not take batteries either would it be safe to use the 12v dc? ive been told some 9v dc pedals take 12v dc without any problems... cheers Luis --0016e6d778db1a962d048308c6aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang,
would it be safe tu use something like the the fuel tank=20 juicy lucy

http://t-rex-effects= .com/Default.aspx?ID=3D94&ProductID=3DPROD8&VariantID
(which puts out=A0 5X 12v dc of 300ma for each output)

for the=20 following pedals:

adrenalinn (normally requires 9v dc 500ma)
tc harmony G (normally requires 12v dc 500ma)
tc VT create (normally=20 requires 12v dc 500ma)
EH micro POG (requires 9,6V DC 200 mA)

so as=20 you can see:
the adrenalinn requires more ma than the usual 9v dc=20 pedals,and it does not run on batteries would it be ok then to use the=20 12v for it?
the tc harmony G is 12v but requires 500ma (more than what the juicy can provide per output)but i can use a doubler cable to use 2 of the=20 outputs of the juicy to use a total of 600ma
that leaves me with the=20 tc VT create
and the EH Micro pog,this one does not take batteries either would it be safe to use the 12v dc?
ive been told some 9v dc pedals take 12v dc=20 without any problems...
cheers
Luis --0016e6d778db1a962d048308c6aa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 18:48:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8698B3BEC1; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tom Griesgraber Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-83--390096174 Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:47:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: <7a9df3e51003301126u34ebede8we9b847ac8ebe3c50@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <7a9df3e51003301126u34ebede8we9b847ac8ebe3c50@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <37AFEA28-6C06-4FDE-A78A-FB296D81B018@aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:419936800:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c54bb24761763e X-AOL-IP: 76.176.199.56 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:48:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-83--390096174 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Luis, It sounds like this is probably not a good solution for your pedals. If = a pedal requires 500ma and you only give it 300... you are under = powering it and might even damage the power supply. The reverse is = usually true though.. in that if a power supply is capable of giving say = 1000ma and you only need 300.. you're fine. In that case the pedal will = only draw 300. On the volts side.. sometimes you can get away with = things like this in the short term and occasionally you might even find = something "desirable" about it (think: lo-fi) but it's probably not good = for either piece of gear. For example, I know some analog pedal makers = like the sound of dying 9volt batteries in their fuzz pedals (meaning... = the batteries are probably giving out less than 9 volts). And.. I know = some analog compressor pedals tend to have more headroom if run off a = 12volt supply instead of a 9 volt. But.. with the amperage you need to = supply the minimum the gear is looking for (or more). It looks like the = Lucy is capable of combining two 300ma outputs into a single 600ma = output. So.. that should help your scenario, but then it might not have = enough outputs for everything.=20 Hope that helps! Tom On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > would it be safe tu use something like the the fuel tank juicy lucy >=20 > http://t-rex-effects.com/Default.aspx?ID=3D94&ProductID=3DPROD8&VariantI= D > (which puts out 5X 12v dc of 300ma for each output) >=20 > for the following pedals: >=20 > adrenalinn (normally requires 9v dc 500ma) > tc harmony G (normally requires 12v dc 500ma) > tc VT create (normally requires 12v dc 500ma) > EH micro POG (requires 9,6V DC 200 mA) >=20 > so as you can see:=20 > the adrenalinn requires more ma than the usual 9v dc pedals,and it = does not run on batteries would it be ok then to use the 12v for it? > the tc harmony G is 12v but requires 500ma (more than what the juicy = can provide per output)but i can use a doubler cable to use 2 of the = outputs of the juicy to use a total of 600ma > that leaves me with the tc VT create > and the EH Micro pog,this one does not take batteries either would it = be safe to use the 12v dc? > ive been told some 9v dc pedals take 12v dc without any problems... > cheers > Luis --Apple-Mail-83--390096174 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Luis,

It sounds like this is probably not a good = solution for your pedals. If a pedal requires 500ma and you only give it = 300... you are under powering it and might even damage the power supply. = The reverse is usually true though.. in that if a power supply is = capable of giving say 1000ma and you only need 300.. you're fine. In = that case the pedal will only draw 300.  On the volts side.. = sometimes you can get away with things like this in the short term and = occasionally you might even find something "desirable" about it (think: = lo-fi) but it's probably not good for either piece of = gear.  For example, I know some analog pedal makers like the = sound of dying 9volt batteries in their fuzz pedals (meaning... the = batteries are probably giving out less than 9 volts). And.. I know some = analog compressor pedals tend to have more headroom if run off a 12volt = supply instead of a 9 volt. But.. with the amperage you need to supply = the minimum the gear is looking for (or more). It looks like the = Lucy is capable of combining two 300ma outputs into a single 600ma = output. So.. that should help your scenario, but then it might not have = enough outputs for everything. 

Hope that = helps!
Tom


On Mar 30, = 2010, at 11:26 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:

Hi = gang,
would it be safe tu use something like the the fuel tank=20 juicy lucy

http://t-rex-effects.com/Default.aspx?ID=3D94&Produc= tID=3DPROD8&VariantID
(which puts out  5X 12v dc of 300ma for each output)

for the=20= following pedals:

adrenalinn (normally requires 9v dc = 500ma)
tc harmony G (normally requires 12v dc 500ma)
tc VT create (normally=20 requires 12v dc 500ma)
EH micro POG (requires 9,6V DC 200 mA)

so as=20= you can see:
the adrenalinn requires more ma than the usual 9v dc=20 pedals,and it does not run on batteries would it be ok then to use the=20= 12v for it?
the tc harmony G is 12v but requires 500ma (more than what the juicy can provide per output)but i can use a doubler cable to use 2 of the=20 outputs of the juicy to use a total of 600ma
that leaves me with the=20= tc VT create
and the EH Micro pog,this one does not take batteries either would it be safe to use the 12v dc?
ive been told some 9v dc pedals take 12v dc=20= without any problems...
cheers
Luis

= --Apple-Mail-83--390096174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 19:11:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 906073BE8E; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5790554B-909E-4E28-8B86-562EDA94183B@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20100330181107.2B1013BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: digitech pds8000 output volume Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:11:08 -0700 References: <20100330181107.2B1013BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <8353T.A.z9.TzksLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:11:15 +0000 (UTC) hi- hello nice list people. so, i have this digitech pds-8000 which is one of my greatest musical devices. however, the output volume is a bit lacking...regardless of where the mix knob is set, i feel like it's seriously killing not just the input volume from the guitar (which is run through a different pedal: digitech rp-1000 before hitting the pds), but also the output volume is just...not enough. this pedal is obviously pretty old, and probably needs some kind of servicing. does anyone know if there's any kind of output stage mod, or if there's a repair that i can get done, that will fix this problem? i mean, does anyone know about this problem, or is it just my particular unit? thanks for any advice! - tyler From newinfoupdateaccount@citibank.com Tue Mar 30 19:16:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2265 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:16:16 UTC Received: from a-integra.ru (mail.a-integra.ru [77.221.135.162]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1435F3BE6F; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a-integra.ru (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by a-integra.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8AE2198470; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:38:20 +0400 (MSD) Received: from antispam.localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by a-integra.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97FA2198471; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:38:19 +0400 (MSD) Received: from User (LMontsouris-152-63-23-80.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.45.80]) by a-integra.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112AB2198470; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:36:54 +0400 (MSD) From: "CitiBank Member" Subject: Security Meassures Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:37:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2A9A6.250DA758" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20100330183654.112AB2198470@a-integra.ru> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: newinfoupdateaccount@citibank.com X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Probable Spam X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 12979 [Mar 30 2010] X-SpamTest-Info: {TO: undisclosed} X-SpamTest-Info: {MSGID: Forged Outlook Express} X-SpamTest-Method: probable X-SpamTest-Rate: 55 X-SpamTest-SPF: softfail X-SpamTest-Status: Probable Spam X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: probable_spam X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0284], KAS30/Release X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2A9A6.250DA758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear CitiBank Member, For the security of your account we require a profile update. 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b=JaFJz9Ihu42ju9ffHDBoGXcf5OWgO8V/Mm8e0VqlkXp8/O+qhJo4Mtdoee5LXtwfRb bI6Fyt1uMXWTnD5LDjb/DZ3NClqNSw7TR8TvoL1iHkGfDeGt18LWVfwjDUO8a26AqYOm t4b3q42J6zBZnP3f4ASXBS7UPzp9y+3ucDpcc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fSjvGKaH9162G7qSEd+qwPEiK4wHk6CJ5vSIcEl2rilGNMX+yEmYbJHO2l5/MwZCMv f4WTwba0e4vkFj3AOe0XEw3gmxpFmHkD6wXSadeUoKkADm1BZIJ05d9vGxCa0zpy1Hm2 Pg4FuqfE2J2Uxzf00gtsu6ZqicAIj8qXOoWYs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:26:37 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b1003301226i681e0f54m619fcf65be2ad99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Mech mentioned (about Frith): > Group name = Massacre > Albums: > Killing Time (1981) > Funny Valentine (1998) > Meltdown (2001) > Lonely Heart (2007) Just found that with the exception of the last one, I have (and like) all of them - Meltdown is a live album with a fantastic synth guitar/harmonica duet at the end of track 4 (I think). The "Death Ambient" album you wrote about is also recommended! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 19:51:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED1C23BE98; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3604 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:51:51 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <37AFEA28-6C06-4FDE-A78A-FB296D81B018@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:51:12 -0500 References: <7a9df3e51003301126u34ebede8we9b847ac8ebe3c50@mail.gmail.com> <37AFEA28-6C06-4FDE-A78A-FB296D81B018@aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Luis, You might want to wait on the Voodoo Lab Versa. Apparently it's been in the works for well over a year (and was announced at the 2009 NAMM show, I think), but I called Voodoo Lab a couple months ago, and they hoped it would finally be ready by early Summer. So, if you can hold out?? It's supposed to be able to power just about everything--knock on wood. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 20:39:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19DD63BE85; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 368660894/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.216.50/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.216.50 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYBAEL+sUtPTtgy/2dsb2JhbAAHjznNTYUABA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,336,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="368660894" Message-ID: <4BB26190.7050804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:39:44 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question References: <7a9df3e51003301126u34ebede8we9b847ac8ebe3c50@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7a9df3e51003301126u34ebede8we9b847ac8ebe3c50@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > would it be safe tu use something like the the fuel tank juicy lucy > (which puts out 5X 12v dc of 300ma for each output) > > for the following pedals: > > adrenalinn (normally requires 9v dc 500ma) > tc harmony G (normally requires 12v dc 500ma) > tc VT create (normally requires 12v dc 500ma) > EH micro POG (requires 9,6V DC 200 mA) > The Juicy Lucy has max output altogether of 1500mA ( 5x300mA ). Your fx ask for a total of 1700mA. So essentially you need something more powerful. (although I've never heard of damage done by hooking up an underpowered supply) It's a bad idea to run a 9V fx at 12V, unless you get an ok from the manufacturer. you also need to keep track of the polarity for each fx center +VE or center -VE andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 20:41:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CBAE3BE85; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/NSUqG6P0XZScdse4tWFavZObkLQbwAotryIZG75dt8=; b=jrKcCHJN0PLeeod7ccoo3TwkMQVIFqjtfXmANFwB7BYay2jbVBGsy/z2UH84kWdQfD dFBk9rBUnEP2PIsqjwKaYi3n0j3ySnoANabhr7SYkHBnxHyIU9LBfTNauzyVkztVhTLf 30b1MRQ3PpvjMl1yIMkobyklSRLYuNg/F+/Jo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XRjfbitvDVEa48XWLCvTJTaGvJfVibgdn7ooqu1ZpVS7MwPbEuCJz0qCNDxXD1+IMS CkURfm4yVUL3EM6J7b7PyItSL30TbhkLeywPdQvEpYXSD6NvHA2TJ1z3IglcjdsWr9/T 3yVKfKzUMUWUua2OrGY36UXskqC3CYijAqpVY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:41:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: kaossilator pro From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Hmmm, it's a drum machine, so I assume that would be line-level inputs. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:40 PM, G wrote: > Hi Matt > Were you using instrument level or line level inputs/outputs with it? > > Not sure if you know about this, but I've found that mixing line level > and instrument level signal quickly runs into these sort of problems. > I use a stereo line driver after my effects for this very reason. > The K.pro only has line level inputs and outputs, in addition to the > microphone input. > > -- G. > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: kaossilator pro > From: Matt Davignon > Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:29:24 -0700 > >>I have the Kaoss Pad (KP4?), which is in a very similar package. >>The Kaoss Pad has some problems in it. There's a lot of signal noise, >>and if you try to boost your volume enough to compensate, you start >>getting a distorted signal. I eventually took it out of my rig. >> >>Just something to test for if you get to do a hands-on demo. >> >> >>-- >>Matt Davignon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 21:11:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C03AC3BE87; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269983492; bh=rbI3Mn5MPzZZYBms2yR7J1142vkZxJrWKub//8Yk8Fo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4thBHWCZbdX18yxLzXfqVTJT+OE5Pf+dVlWFqJqRYeKfBQ7JnJzkVQJo8ZycqJ5TFa9iyKbypGfajbS812XJRL8fvLs/vzM/HHI6nXRWZEMQ6MbbyXSSZ+B6cByD5mNy6cJtKgBMMQvaIkGeO9cYK1Z6m9WXkvGWdEtfua+wifE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T+99vULLceGPQsaUAroA5rScL3LhfJzHZcxiIJ47r2qSjXkk4X5DMVC0DhPuYeLOwBuZk4sHDDGwFzOCmnbawh4tebkFixWuWNsNZJLWeM14P4W3EP6/a9BoKHXsnBu1isoybfUJp/lOgDw/6uWElBw4rZODqjGm/4Y/7TaDkko=; Message-ID: <482472.18192.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: p70tQWYVM1koJxWrULm2SEM2CzqxPEEjx2RYJ8bmW2a0CZW CpsxMBQz9jc.5UIyfucoIPGQzGccsZnwzWTL3Hf65PdvbWRtbrY8ShCap0qc N_YrwAp68n9y3cMG63rQSAEIZDmqTHfckxPITHBzcFlDbP0sXpnG4B2N6FuT .2zvmMHTC3XvLknaTdbbOYmG3Y4PyMHNrDu9UbPPmgLZdDppCJPAf3dAlJLR ul8xAzLh4rZfNo1Pg1keA0ZrndhhQbggzpoIzkQMu3Y4vV_37daRVNran6x_ TuYNFfVjINe5w.0JnLc1uUDF31fh6QRdvXVHTOl0- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:11:32 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b1003301226i681e0f54m619fcf65be2ad99@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-266667016-1269983492=:18192" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:11:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-266667016-1269983492=:18192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got Death Ambient's "Drunken Forest" - good stuff! ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Rainer Straschill wrote: From: Rainer Straschill Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 12:26 PM Mech mentioned (about Frith): > Group name =3D Massacre > Albums: >=A0 =A0 Killing Time (1981) >=A0 =A0 Funny Valentine (1998) >=A0 =A0 Meltdown (2001) >=A0 =A0 Lonely Heart (2007) Just found that with the exception of the last one, I have (and like) all of them - Meltdown is a live album with a fantastic synth guitar/harmonica duet at the end of track 4 (I think). The "Death Ambient" album you wrote about is also recommended! =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0ALooking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! =0A=0Ahttp:= //www.flickr.com/gift/ --0-266667016-1269983492=:18192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Subject: Re: OT:= Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
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Mech mentioned (about Frith):
> Group name =3D Mass= acre
> Albums:
>    Killing Time (1981)
> =   Funny Valentine (1998)
>    Meltdown (2001)
>=     Lonely Heart (2007)

Just found that with the exception= of the last one, I have (and like)
all of them - Meltdown is a live album with= a fantastic synth
guitar/harmonica duet at the end of track 4 (I think)= .

The "Death Ambient" album you wrote about is also recommended!
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Yours Faithfully Mr Don Sagay From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 05:28:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B48C3BE85; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 492 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:28:03 UTC Message-ID: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> From: "d.nix" To: References: Subject: Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:21:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone- I'm a new member of the mail list, but already after just a week or so been quite impressed with the breadth of knowlege here. So here's my situation and question... I'm a guitarist in a trio playing somewhat traditional style post-rock/post-metal instrumental music. I've come to embrace the idea of using looping technology to expand and flesh out whats possible, to thicken our sound, to give myself a rhythm/second guitarist... Not as unique or as innovative as what some of the people here are doing, but thats what I'm up too. I saw the band 'Russian Circles' perform live here in SF a few months ago and was just amazed at the live sound they could create with just a trio; both the guitarist and bassist used loopers and delays to build up multiple layers of sound - both rhythmic, structured parts and ambient bits to tie things together. Lots of fun, and very inspiring. So I immediately went out and bought a Boss RC-2, and HATED it. That lasted only a few weeks, then I bought an Akai Headrush E2, and LOVED it. I've been working with the band to incorporate it and structure material to take advantage of what it offers, etc, and continue to do so. However I decided that I need greater loop times and more detailed control of the loops, so I recently sprung for a recent manufacture EDP-1 with the foot controller - well, as recent as is possible... It has the latest LoopIV software, etc, and I can see I have quite a learning curve ahead of me... One thing that becomes rapidly apparent, is that the ability to arbitrarily jump from one loop to a different loop in a single switch press requires a midi programmable foot controller. My experience with midi is next to nil, and what little there has been, has not been very encouraging, tho all quite a while back, and with different hardware and goals in mind. I see there is a fair amount of support for the Behringer FCB1010, with aftermarket mods and editors for programming, so I could, and may, just go with that. However, I may have a chance to pick up a fairly new Yamaha MFC10 controller for quite cheap, so I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with it... in particular with programming it via a computer based GUI editor... I have no patience with the 'Riverdance' button press programming thats native to these sorts of devices... Is there a GUI editor for the MFC10 floor unit? And for that matter, are there other, perhaps physically smaller units that are reccomended? I am aware of the Gordius hardware, which looks impressive, but I'm not quite ready for that sort of expense just yet... Suggestions or reccomendations? Regards- Dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 05:47:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D9123BE81; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5hOvEtINVchzpYImWvvYJ5vlRv00HTD/lCSuHkIL1YA=; b=qKsVSwDSliZWX6+hvVnAlbF/zXv0h746VdnFjl3wZ25L+C51J6xFTitNUheql+aTdb aR2+ehHjF1KytCdJwpPOpO3RZot1ePZ79Pq3bOI9oeBtGolQyQ6rFwhjHZjqPfmZHiAt ccKK9BlmwqffWnvOV+l7t/zLzHAoSc0YOWAyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BE8kTpf/ZUvv1h6fiQlozwqDnhvXAS+NRQYBTOMcxVdobJZ3odCa7U/ipmpaZMhLIr VkCD24/sLpqcsjscEqtDR6JvxmyrM+6JEQXi2G/JNn1JFGagrI0DEXWGE0d8HZLao6rd i8MVRWJ2XLHkR2srjxDMm9EonUpy2qvzzaDjg= Sender: daryl shawn Message-ID: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:47:18 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT - Rick's rhythm intensive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:47:43 +0000 (UTC) I've been wanting to remark for a while on the rhythm intensive I took a few months ago with Rick Walker (I think a few others here have taken it too, yes? Luis or Per, maybe?). For anyone who's looking to improve their rhythmic sense, or just expand their musical consciousness, I can't recommend it enough, really. The coolest part is him showing how any rhythm, no matter how complicated, can be broken down to its component parts, which fit in a nicely finite family of building blocks. It's changed the way I pick up and can respond to beats that I hear, pretty dramatically. I took a rhythm workshop with Cyro Baptista last month, and I realized there that Rick's instruction had made me way more confident and comfortable with rhythm than I'd ever been before. It's also just a pile of fun learning about things like the percentage of swing in a particular beat, or the characteristic rhythms in music I had never heard of. This is a massive understatement for anyone who knows him, but Rick has gotten around. A fount o' rhythmic knowledge. (It's kinda worth the trip to Santa Cruz just to see his magic house of instruments from all over the place. It is wondrous. But I know he's been looking into doing long-distance lessons over video, too, which is nice for our far-flung group here.) Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 05:53:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E67A3BE87; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sQAxsBTHzL4dpsnIQOm0kc/Lbx6wlH96JR/0mBDU83w=; b=diOLTxlUaH9kY/EIusQsPIue0ZfMJ002dMRMw51QZB2eqawnScKBEOBT9geVsv4MTF rSWfDIPIkKlmmCMoO8e9shvoW9jIKoQcVa7P5HjE152hLzv4FCf4Y1Mx0US4ylYoI8HY XDx8Kvzq55czJd3o+j03TcASbqi6ci5EUD8Q4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AQUkuktco+Ph6YYs/C+M01QG5X/Fev3jRgYAuXWHmwJbXsTciwZX6ZlUaKVn3L1dSg wzPjcMIaJj1nyS2RVxL/uAunfK0CJoTrqLJTEmIb0swyJOQ4rB7uk+bN8yQxvA0mwoRn EEe9mgMrwXE63YcavBgQLiMirjf60D4rySDcI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> References: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:53:33 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99c2cd087e00483125de5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:53:34 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99c2cd087e00483125de5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 sorry for my english skills but you "recently sprung for" EDP? You've bought one? Where did you find it? I'm quite new to the list as well, but I see you've caught the drift quite easily... My question is, how are you going to sync things with your drummer? Or is he/she so good at time-keeping that it's possible to play with these kinds of things in live situation? I got one group where I would like to use livelooping but never managed to understand how drummer keeps up with it? :-) _Petri_ 2010/3/31 d.nix > Hello everyone- > > I'm a new member of the mail list, but already after just a week or so been > quite impressed with the breadth of knowlege here. So here's my situation > and question... I'm a guitarist in a trio playing somewhat traditional > style > post-rock/post-metal instrumental music. I've come to embrace the idea of > using looping technology to expand and flesh out whats possible, to thicken > our sound, to give myself a rhythm/second guitarist... Not as unique or as > innovative as what some of the people here are doing, but thats what I'm up > too. I saw the band 'Russian Circles' perform live here in SF a few months > ago and was just amazed at the live sound they could create with just a > trio; both the guitarist and bassist used loopers and delays to build up > multiple layers of sound - both rhythmic, structured parts and ambient bits > to tie things together. Lots of fun, and very inspiring. So I immediately > went out and bought a Boss RC-2, and HATED it. That lasted only a few > weeks, > then I bought an Akai Headrush E2, and LOVED it. I've been working with the > band to incorporate it and structure material to take advantage of what it > offers, etc, and continue to do so. However I decided that I need greater > loop times and more detailed control of the loops, so I recently sprung for > a recent manufacture EDP-1 with the foot controller - well, as recent as is > possible... It has the latest LoopIV software, etc, and I can see I have > quite a learning curve ahead of me... > > One thing that becomes rapidly apparent, is that the ability to arbitrarily > jump from one loop to a different loop in a single switch press requires a > midi programmable foot controller. My experience with midi is next to nil, > and what little there has been, has not been very encouraging, tho all > quite > a while back, and with different hardware and goals in mind. I see there is > a fair amount of support for the Behringer FCB1010, with aftermarket mods > and editors for programming, so I could, and may, just go with that. > However, I may have a chance to pick up a fairly new Yamaha MFC10 > controller > for quite cheap, so I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with it... > in > particular with programming it via a computer based GUI editor... I have no > patience with the 'Riverdance' button press programming thats native to > these sorts of devices... Is there a GUI editor for the MFC10 floor unit? > And for that matter, are there other, perhaps physically smaller units that > are reccomended? I am aware of the Gordius hardware, which looks > impressive, > but I'm not quite ready for that sort of expense just yet... > > Suggestions or reccomendations? > > Regards- > > Dave > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0016e6d99c2cd087e00483125de5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry for my english skills
but you "recently sprung for" EDP?=
You've bought one? Where did you find it?

I'm quite new = to the list as well, but I see you've caught the drift quite easily...<= br> My question is, how are you going to sync things with your drummer?
Or i= s he/she so good at time-keeping that it's possible to play with these = kinds of things in live situation?
I got one group where I would like to= use livelooping but never managed to understand how drummer keeps up with = it? :-)

_Petri_

2010/3/31 d.nix <d.nix@comcast.net>
Hello everyone-

I'm a new member of the mail list, but already after just a week or so = been
quite impressed with the breadth of knowlege here. So here's my situati= on
and question... I'm a guitarist in a trio playing somewhat traditional = style
post-rock/post-metal instrumental music. I've come to embrace the idea = of
using looping technology to expand and flesh out whats possible, to thicken=
our sound, to give myself a rhythm/second guitarist... Not as unique or as<= br> innovative as what some of the people here are doing, but thats what I'= m up
too. I saw the band 'Russian Circles' perform live here in SF a few= months
ago and was just amazed at the live sound they could create with just a
trio; both the guitarist and bassist used loopers and delays to build up multiple layers of sound - both rhythmic, structured parts and ambient bits=
to tie things together. Lots of fun, and very inspiring. So I immediately went out and bought a Boss RC-2, and HATED it. That lasted only a few weeks= ,
then I bought an Akai Headrush E2, and LOVED it. I've been working with= the
band to incorporate it and structure material to take advantage of what it<= br> offers, etc, and continue to do so. However I decided that I need greater loop times and more detailed control of the loops, so I recently sprung for=
a recent manufacture EDP-1 with the foot controller - well, as recent as is=
possible... It has the latest LoopIV software, etc, and I can see I have quite a learning curve ahead of me...

One thing that becomes rapidly apparent, is that the ability to arbitrarily=
jump from one loop to a different loop in a single switch press requires a<= br> midi programmable foot controller. My experience with midi is next to nil,<= br> and what little there has been, has not been very encouraging, tho all quit= e
a while back, and with different hardware and goals in mind. I see there is=
a fair amount of support for the Behringer FCB1010, with aftermarket mods and editors for programming, so I could, and may, just go with that.
However, I may have a chance to pick up a fairly new Yamaha MFC10 controlle= r
for quite cheap, so I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with it.= .. in
particular with programming it via a computer based GUI editor... I have no=
patience with the 'Riverdance' button press programming thats nativ= e to
these sorts of devices... Is there a GUI editor for the MFC10 floor unit? And for that matter, are there other, perhaps physically smaller units that=
are reccomended? I am aware of the Gordius hardware, which looks impressive= ,
but I'm not quite ready for that sort of expense just yet...

Suggestions or reccomendations?

Regards-

Dave




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.c= om/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--0016e6d99c2cd087e00483125de5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 06:22:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29B503BE81; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <071001cad0a3$138488e0$925d0418@vulcan> From: "d.nix" To: References: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> Subject: Re: Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:23:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:22:20 +0000 (UTC) > You've bought one? Where did you find it? I posted that I was looking for one on another music/guitar gear bulletin board and was contacted by someone wishing to sell, and we came to an agreement. But truthfully, at least in the US, I see them crop up on Ebay pretty regularily. There are two on there now, and I've seen another one in a local music store. > > I'm quite new to the list as well, but I see you've caught the drift quite > easily... > My question is, how are you going to sync things with your drummer? > Or is he/she so good at time-keeping that it's possible to play with these > kinds of things in live situation? It is a unique learning experience to say the least, and does require the other musicians - as well as myself - to be very precise and punctual. Some times it works well and other times... Not so well. :-) But I think it can be done, with some practice - I saw Russian Circles do it live very well. Most impressive. There are several Youtube videos of them where you can see/hear for yourself. The guitarist uses both a Akai Headrush and a Digitech JamMan (plus several analog delays), and nothing was synced via midi or to the drums in any way... He was just very aware of the downbeat and keeping track of what the drummer was doing. They also happen to have an awesome drummer, a real machine of a timekeeper. My drummer is gonna take some work, I'm afraid... :-) Regards- Dave > I got one group where I would like to use livelooping but never managed to > understand how drummer keeps up with it? :-) > > _Petri_ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 07:52:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E22493BE88; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 07:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 372683618/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.248.164/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.248.164 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4BAIucsktPTvik/2dsb2JhbAAHjzrMM4UABA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,340,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="372683618" Message-ID: <4BB2FF56.1090809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:52:54 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios References: <992072.80985.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <992072.80985.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 07:52:40 +0000 (UTC) along with "Gravity" that album is the biggest influence on my livelooping music....and I didn't realise till it was pointed out to me. andy butler ps apart from one track it's studio construction using live recording, rather than a trio. ditch wrestler wrote: > > And there's "Speechless" credited to "Fred Frith with Massacre". > However, it's only side 2 tunes with Lawell and Maher and there's a horn > trio on most of those songs. Side 1 is mostly with Etron Fou Leloublan, > a French avant-rock quartet. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speechless_(Fred_Frith_album) > > > ted h. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 07:57:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49A223BE89; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 07:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 370258986/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.248.164/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.248.164 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMBAKKdsktPTvik/2dsb2JhbAAHjzqDVshZhQAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,340,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="370258986" Message-ID: <4BB3006A.7080906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:57:30 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question (another) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 07:57:14 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > When it finally comes out the Voodoo Labs Versa is probably the only one > that can handle that many 12 volt and high mili amp sources. > bill > Any suggestions for powering 2 Moogerfoogers (+VE center) along with a couple of EH pedals (-VE center) ? Plus a Gordius Little giant which can take either polarity. All 9V, the MFs need 500mA each. ...oh, and for me it's from 250V AC many thanks for any suggestions andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 08:03:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E833F3BE88; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 372687999/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.248.164/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.248.164 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMBAMmesktPTvik/2dsb2JhbAAHjzqDVshbhQAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,340,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="372687999" Message-ID: <4BB301FB.9090905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:04:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios References: <506901.45221.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <506901.45221.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:03:54 +0000 (UTC) ditch wrestler wrote: > > I'm with Kris on 'what works, works!' approach to gear. I reckon most guitarists can eventually adjust to the gear they are using to make a tone that they like. ...but very few are able to get their result on unfamiliar gear. Would that go some way to explaining the phenomena Kris mentions? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 08:04:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A35D3BE8F; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xwU6sI/2Kt6UxJ8G9M2XJmjCKYdRNVNusUjQ76a6BeU=; b=pgxjlSnPfKWkQfz9Supoij3w3F0y/N8v3IZWNBg8/5yQ6TeI0Kn9d9nOMEqMjm28uD uemixsV/2tVxneKo7OW13Lb9ONOzh1VDxEkf+SAV9rQzMKMIWMQT+qL/fkP5DgslDjnK 5VZfZ65NO8wsrdrqTSF5PyhxRQbXBMdyq7v34= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=v68imTMPVp06kuavQuG6mixQdqrYaBU+ITnRSP2R9a5EmY0k3nJ3rJew9xdl909ND7 u6ihCkIuZfSFO8YCZpje/d+B+FfNlIufNqnj1Zted1l3pNvxFzDGQGuhqFCm6weZVe6E xyRPw+3pH1k/v1f0WyVTF3+XLKCiu9dV25WjA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <071001cad0a3$138488e0$925d0418@vulcan> References: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> <071001cad0a3$138488e0$925d0418@vulcan> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:04:29 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fae491883e2048314327f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:04:34 +0000 (UTC) --0016367fae491883e2048314327f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 good monitoring for the drummer is essential, I suppose. If anyone else is reading the thread, how do you solve this problem in a band environment? can edp send tempo data through midi? and how this setup is done... is there a thread somewhere on LD on this... have to search.. -Petri- 2010/3/31 d.nix > > > You've bought one? Where did you find it? > > I posted that I was looking for one on another music/guitar gear bulletin > board and was contacted by someone wishing to sell, and we came to an > agreement. But truthfully, at least in the US, I see them crop up on Ebay > pretty regularily. There are two on there now, and I've seen another one in > a local music store. > ngIt is a unique learning experience to say the least, and does require the > other musicians - as well as myself - to be very precise and punctual. Some > times it works well and other times... Not so well. > > :-) > > But I think it can be done, with some practice - I saw Russian Circles do > it > live very well. Most impressive. There are several Youtube videos of them > where you can see/hear for yourself. The guitarist uses both a Akai > Headrush > and a Digitech JamMan (plus several analog delays), and nothing was synced > via midi or to the drums in any way... He was just very aware of the > downbeat and keeping track of what the drummer was doing. They also happen > to have an awesome drummer, a real machine of a timekeeper. My drummer is > gonna take some work, I'm afraid... > > :-) > > Regards- > > Dave > > > I got one group where I would like to use livelooping but never managed > to > > understand how drummer keeps up with it? :-) > > > > _Petri_ > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0016367fae491883e2048314327f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good monitoring for the drummer is essential, I suppose.
If anyone else = is reading the thread, how do you solve this problem in a band environment?=
can edp send tempo data through midi? and how this setup is done...
is there a thread somewhere on LD on this... have to search..

-Petri= -

2010/3/31 d.nix <<= a href=3D"mailto:d.nix@comcast.net">d.nix@comcast.net>

> You've bought one? Where did you find it?

I posted that I was looking for one on another music/guitar gear bull= etin
board and was contacted by someone wishing to sell, and we came to an
agreement. But truthfully, at least in the US, I see them crop up on Ebay pretty regularily. There are two on there now, and I've seen another on= e in
a local music store.
ngIt is a unique learning experience to say the lea= st, and does require the
other musicians - as well as myself - to be very precise and punctual. Some=
times it works well and other times... Not so well.

:-)

But I think it can be done, with some practice - I saw Russian Circles do i= t
live very well. Most impressive. There are several Youtube videos of them where you can see/hear for yourself. The guitarist uses both a Akai Headrus= h
and a Digitech JamMan (plus several analog delays), and nothing was synced<= br> via midi or to the drums in any way... =A0He was just very aware of the
downbeat and keeping track of what the drummer was doing. They also happen<= br> to have an awesome drummer, a real machine of a timekeeper. My drummer is gonna take some work, I'm afraid...

:-)

Regards-

Dave

> I got one group where I would like to use livelooping but never manage= d to
> understand how drummer keeps up with it? :-)
>
> _Petri_
>




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--------= -------------------------------------------
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--0016367fae491883e2048314327f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 08:18:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FCD83BE87; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 370268796/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.248.164/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.248.164 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4BAFOisktPTvik/2dsb2JhbAAHjzrMMoUABA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,340,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="370268796" Message-ID: <4BB30548.4080605@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:18:16 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1 References: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> In-Reply-To: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:18:00 +0000 (UTC) d.nix wrote: > However, I may have a chance to pick up a fairly new Yamaha MFC10 controller > for quite cheap, so I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with it... Yep, ...it's total junk for looping. There's a large delay between hitting the switch and the midi command being sent. I reckoned about 70mS ! Yamaha Tech support in UK confirmed 1) Wow, it has a latency of about 100mS, that's not good. 2) There's *no* procedure in place for us to report that. Best thing to do is to take a more positive attitude to programming the fcb1010, ;-) it won't actually harm you to spend all evening setting it up for the EDP, and once it's done you can play and play for months. if you can afford it, get the Gordius Little Giant controller andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 09:48:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CA7A3BE87; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 373212792/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.248.164/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.248.164 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4BAGq3sktPTvik/2dsb2JhbAAHjzrMMoUABA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,340,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="373212792" Message-ID: <4BB31A8A.50108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:48:58 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drummer Monitor (Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1) References: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> <071001cad0a3$138488e0$925d0418@vulcan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Petri Lahtinen wrote: > good monitoring for the drummer is essential, I suppose. > If anyone else is reading the thread, how do you solve this problem in a > band environment? yep, good monitoring for the drummer is the way. ...and you need a co-operative drummer. also that's important for the rest of the band > can edp send tempo data through midi? yes, but it won't help, the drummer just needs to hear the audio in the loop. Unless your drummer actually *wants* a click track, and will follow one. and how this setup is done... parameter Sync = Out OR Sync = OutS (additionally sends midiStartSong commands) > is there a thread somewhere on LD on this... have to search.. > > -Petri- andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 10:09:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 641393BE81; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BBh9RuxPRCYA6Cpv7NT1SSQqfM7Q8auQKNLxIj9mmps=; b=PYvD308KTNkLIrzJKuCn1BGOpwqM6Jcre0NwERcIcb1ma6t3z8AQK9Vz+voAmBbNOz XxSVSF0RprE1NBfAQwU3z2Kzwms17i7wKa6VSV6n5QrZU8c8Ryk61HrijMM72Qt5HZc6 J7XvFWMIQPJzIIwVgZdgSAURgUjiZTwvqkxmA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nW666bT3ZJhIuAYZMUdVFXf5hlYx332ey9N2+FnV5t6E/WX4n9mtiAZrU6o3e/nrHz GhpJtozBvmgAVQQ0OR65yZRbo7UkEOVZ4HNTu3EjARgCiGFyTgd6NWicqNiIRQVA3TdO rAf/Bp9p0JF6tztiO+hHbxMvoTRi+TXRgDqSE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BB31A8A.50108@tiscali.co.uk> References: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> <071001cad0a3$138488e0$925d0418@vulcan> <4BB31A8A.50108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:09:56 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Drummer Monitor (Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1) From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d56698bbf5e7048315f204 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:09:58 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d56698bbf5e7048315f204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 great, thanks I'm in the lookout for EDP 2010/3/31 andy butler > > > Petri Lahtinen wrote: > >> good monitoring for the drummer is essential, I suppose. >> If anyone else is reading the thread, how do you solve this problem in a >> band environment? >> > > yep, good monitoring for the drummer is the way. > ...and you need a co-operative drummer. > > also that's important for the rest of the band > > can edp send tempo data through midi? >> > > yes, but it won't help, the drummer just needs > to hear the audio in the loop. > Unless your drummer actually *wants* a click track, > and will follow one. > > > and how this setup is done... > > parameter > Sync = Out > OR > Sync = OutS (additionally sends midiStartSong commands) > > is there a thread somewhere on LD on this... have to search.. >> >> -Petri- >> > andy > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0016e6d56698bbf5e7048315f204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great, thanks

I'm in the lookout for EDP

2010/3/31 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>


Petri Lahtinen wrote:
good monitoring for the drummer is essential, I suppose.
If anyone else is reading the thread, how do you solve this problem in a ba= nd environment?

yep, good monitoring for the drummer is the way.
...and you need a co-operative drummer.

also that's important for the rest of the band

can edp send tempo data through midi?

yes, but it won't help, the drummer just needs
to hear the audio in the loop.
Unless your drummer actually *wants* a click track,
and will follow one.


and how this setup is done...

parameter
Sync =3D Out
OR
Sync =3D OutS (additionally sends midiStartSong commands)

is there a thread somewhere on LD on this... have to search..

-Petri-
andy




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.c= om/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
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D.L From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 11:57:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97D9E3BE87; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FTP7Z2M3lQX5htCUu03HS1zr/Sbx9JZvB7vRDtAq1NU=; b=cKzo92r0VCPHhCr4N02WKaGTkzG6BpxwShVFucHTUp2rm0nNHN31VWyXEXOYzfc9N4 A4KIjHcRkQ+Wk50xrntNEuCVcbHcgD+HdehacxZTOwK7tKiYF4z9S6fHmdfVisTe0gay zkn8hGnwvWwvt4/SyMmm7pdvd626gOXmGPwEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ws8HL27WXmrPbYLYzY+0XSAzc+ozOGsNSyV4AVmdVDRKM91e7zzV9LNcqQdlC4dcI6 B1Fxvo4unTBceT0dJcQiQaJk123xzeqEppq5naD0UU5ryCyu1QcdC7bfZcXsIXOrCbi0 lQ6AYxNWcJ9u/pliraN7YGs+nrc9r1h782bIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:57:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Rick's rhythm intensive From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Yes, Rick's Rhythm Intense is great! On both Swedish Live Looping Tours I have arranged here, in 2003 and 2008, Rick has been part of the program and I have witnessed many of his rhythm clinics. It is amazing how fast people learn from him. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I've been wanting to remark for a while on the rhythm intensive I took a few > months ago with Rick Walker (I think a few others here have taken it too, > yes? Luis or Per, maybe?). For anyone who's looking to improve their > rhythmic sense, or just expand their musical consciousness, I can't > recommend it enough, really. The coolest part is him showing how any rhythm, > no matter how complicated, can be broken down to its component parts, which > fit in a nicely finite family of building blocks. It's changed the way I > pick up and can respond to beats that I hear, pretty dramatically. I took a > rhythm workshop with Cyro Baptista last month, and I realized there that > Rick's instruction had made me way more confident and comfortable with > rhythm than I'd ever been before. > > It's also just a pile of fun learning about things like the percentage of > swing in a particular beat, or the characteristic rhythms in music I had > never heard of. This is a massive understatement for anyone who knows him, > but Rick has gotten around. A fount o' rhythmic knowledge. > > (It's kinda worth the trip to Santa Cruz just to see his magic house of > instruments from all over the place. It is wondrous. But I know he's been > looking into doing long-distance lessons over video, too, which is nice for > our far-flung group here.) > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 12:24:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 174D23BE88; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dean, Hal" To: Mech , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:24:16 -0400 Subject: RE: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Thread-Topic: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Thread-Index: AcrQT78yTeeciejXQ0OJtEXKcfc21gAfNLHA Message-ID: <86FEE8BCF5652949A08D1EB0545EB42404A3CE08AE@WCU-EX-EMP1-MB.PASSHE.LCL> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-puzzleid: {4F1CD0EC-07E0-4A3C-8056-FB91A2CDBF9A} x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AcpD Ap8R As3P CCOb DD0i D3MH FrJa IHCR L7l/ MB5U MkAF NOce OKjG PdGJ TSxP T7xx;2;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtADsAbQBlAGMAaABAAG0AMwBjAGgALgBuAGUAdAA=;Sosha1_v1;7;{4F1CD0EC-07E0-4A3C-8056-FB91A2CDBF9A};aABkAGUAYQBuAEAAdwBjAHUAcABhAC4AZQBkAHUA;Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:24:16 GMT;UgBFADoAIABPAFQAOgAgAEYAcgBlAGUAIABKAGEAegB6AC8AQQB2AGEAbgB0AC0ARwBhAHIAZABlACAARwB1AGkAdABhAHIALwBCAGEAcwBzAC8ARAByAHUAbQAgAFQAcgBpAG8AcwA= acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:24:32 +0000 (UTC) The last 2 Death Ambient recordings are fabulous, "Drunken Forest" in parti= cular. I think "Killing Time" still blows away the later Massacre records, though = they are very good. As long as you're including Frith in avant-garde, which for some reason I w= asn't, there are some more obscure titles that are really great... I'll dig= those up later. Let me also put in a plug for someone who may have a trio or two somewhere = in his discography, and isn't too active in recordings these days, but made= some unique and riveting music - Hans Reichel. I particularly love Bonobo = Beach and Death of the Rare Bird Ymir. Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: Mech [mailto:mech@m3ch.net]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:11 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios At 11:25 AM -0600 3/30/10, Kris Hartung wrote: >I have only a few items from Fred, one of which is a nice video DVD=20 >that Hal sent me! Actually, I saw Fred play in person in Oakland at=20 >Mills College a few months ago, with Bob Ostertag. Okay, now I'm really frickin' jealous. ;) >But I don't have any of his trio stuff. > >So what is the title of one of his guitar/bass/drum sessions? Group name =3D Massacre Albums: Killing Time (1981) Funny Valentine (1998) Meltdown (2001) Lonely Heart (2007) Also, just read about another trio Frith formed with Kato Hideki=20 (bass), and Ikue Mori (drum machines) called Death Ambient. Haven't=20 heard that one yet, however. --m. --=20 _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From kk.apetey@live.fr Wed Mar 31 13:35:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from web114404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web114404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.183.23]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 120EA3BE7F for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 89148 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Mar 2010 13:35:32 -0000 Message-ID: <248268.89120.qm@web114404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CNOXc3wVM1kzTS1PUtpqW1Q3eq_2SHeDyqt4IHFkwO45SmJUrHvM_AKz4cEQf5JLi8rYS0ub8wB27AbDidA3P.kY0ILYOF8e.gvGtyshb6lGbziR1EOnaMKo_6OaUCR8RPTTsBXSp4C8quAu084LQfzSN1pVbP58dDNnuiTRaCLstV.N27TXhJh6DPlOlc4tm_m0AVILunLEB46985KnuaKODzi_LMCkyqS5AQmT4W.j0AEXqPd4cBKExfy0EVOZJsOn28WNrYGXGnp8_Wd1BRz_x78twgiVSDN0O5M2EeENt.sUOXJb4AIphfRXPD2Ma2RUdUCn9B0xLg1Ze3D2rBA2RlguffhbNOtk_ItMZhImtYdIJxxq0KqvpG6p7HCbCKlgPP4m58pQpP8RSbgMmTBFF02kw54cnEOog6zotQrmfyGmXpGp54XL5r9865ltt4Sm70qFS1w0UcGCNl7eE5EO0f.GhLqbTJ6JNJRUbufcbfwnpbI7MvEuDGzW7IwQmAYvU6LoSlxl7olAckRuGGFO2eHTa5SLlLv0UXk.uLOt.keOgoPZQEvTnvSJ5v4WZpCUhnT2DAL4qEVGxhe6idk_uYW1PTRGaaLYdFNhQfEOb3aX.S8Aqmxso4OZaRUrCdSyRnbgv8xbHFpW4Tko3HebtGWTq_4zx5zVvaJKeiTrbAChH4p8gceDIFVuT5RPdTBbjCk1sN94Df727Zq_qCEoqS.YYzc7.rr_FuMEkUhQBnC5JJL4fHrS1lwbVfqr1ORTpFK9b1IB0qUl1nKUTAAp6baybGHKw2CxZvY5S1b7ZJqA1W9KfwsLXp9WnAlwtPZ8eCeNAVhpjFCPmggqBCdPE8umjDL8bgLxhPV2G9uRizGa6.RIDJ_GxCJQwZpdrSJuhDRuJhEuH.DsRcN9EwugzydngEZPIPIZt65J3vkzs1P2Putk9XbUjjyQha1wHM65QURtVgp2wugL5JOVdKB7Y9zno9a_Erif_F4HcwaFDqHURoa1kXpIJO2n2FkGnDGxAx5yGMmc.AJjef_gTrmrneTe5Wc10pu.j5uAzEmAkxvJLbfU.NusUFO3wkrFXA.vq6lHWd3ckoYtQrgaNA9WMR01oGYJLNcjBQU7Up09qIDjK35uuDFhT_kcg7j1LJBQEIi8hCA8PE70_mZ_CVChQ.dhoUapQwqnMzkRvtHQmrFeM9UucxdeORuX1DjNLgFJuZjyEDLc9aDZDPNGdfGn2uPYj4HK21BkrGVpUQ.Nd8HP..UYWD7AH1LgILyv_ZLMxCBxX2yhWJGO3bduVMHHftrGxiUD3l6GVdl4hdFKtVFjQSEd1PYarBYcgYdWRrvMpNwh3JsEc1HOm8fs_N0Y721SIzOjexXKebj2t_6jWwR2xh9lCJEQhkb7vdq8oFUvLVPO76k9D8WK7gudgAlubhwYGgSCNzmddgkzhuwEi6VvP_qXinT_nM0jmdWZFHrbO8Hyf2InDKkzMUSaWjQtwc_P5REFwRxRY8FHkSMn2onLshwOaFTOtkP69LOckrjlZ8Loa8kG7eah0nHg6X8QEzAcfVcyQ4tCKR1qOdWSQCXndrgdcJw5V4qR6Zyc3j5xt_WnYt5oCxjz6_k0x07OM9.CrFbulTPykevTQriPW0CS5WNL_axvG0w7y8GCS.MsCANraBgr0JgYpSpn671pdSwK0N64CMZ7PUG.h8foz_44S1TPvfWx Received: from [41.203.232.142] by web114404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:35:31 PDT X-RocketYMMF: barr_rahaa19@y7mail.com X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:35:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Md. 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And there's "Speechless" credited to "Fre= d Frith with Massacre".  However, it's only side 2 tunes with Lawell a= nd Maher and there's a horn trio on most of those songs.  Side 1 is mo= stly with Etron Fou Leloublan, a French avant-rock quartet.

http://e= n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speechless_(Fred_Frith_album)


ted h.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Tue, = 3/30/10, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

From: Mech <mech@m3ch.net>
Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/= Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om
Received: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 11:10 AM

At 11:25 AM -0600 3/30/10, Kris Hartung wrote:
> I have only a= few items from Fred, one of which is a nice video DVD that Hal sent me!  = Actually, I saw Fred play in person in Oakland at Mills College a few month= s ago, with Bob Ostertag.

Okay, now I'm really frickin' jealous.&nbs= p; ;)

> But I don't have any of his trio stuff.
>
> = So what is the title of one of his guitar/bass/drum sessions?

Group = name =3D Massacre
Albums:
    Killing Time (1981)
&= nbsp;   Funny Valentine (1998)
    Meltdown (20= 01)
    Lonely Heart (2007)

Also, just read about = another trio Frith formed with Kato Hideki (bass), and Ikue Mori (drum mach= ines) called Death Ambient.  Haven't heard that one yet, however.
<= br>    --m.
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She got good use out of the volume pedal as her guitar has acoustic sound, = she'd keep playing even when the pick-up volume was at zero. Jessica Pavone had her viola was plugged into a Fender Blender pedal. I can't recall amps, but wouldn't be surprised if they were borrowed for th= e gig. ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Dean, Hal wrote: From: Dean, Hal Subject: RE: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: "Loopers Delight" Received: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 7:24 AM =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI have to echo the raving about Halvo= rson, though I was=0Asurprised by NOT much liking =E2=80=9CDragon=E2=80=99s= Head=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 My=0Afavorite work of hers so far =C2=A0is =E2=80=9CC= rackleknob=E2=80=9D with Nate=0AWooley, among others, and the Thirteenth As= sembly record. I=E2=80=99m dying to=0Asee her live, a small woman with a bi= g woody guitar making this splendid sound.=0A=C2=A0 =0A=0A =C2=A0 =0A=0AHal= Dean =0A=0A =C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: ditch wrestler=0A[mailto:ditchwrestle= r@yahoo.com]=20 =0ASent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:33 AM =0ATo: Loopers Delight =0ASubject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios =0A=0A=0A= =0A =C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A =20 =0A I haven't seen anybody mention Joe Morris - not the famed NY Giants ru= nning=0A back, but the Boston-based guitarist/bassist and faculty at the N= ew England=0A Conservatory.=C2=A0 I'd have to dig around to see all that I= 've got of his=0A but I know "Age of Everything" (which is great!) is=0A = guitar/bass/drums recording.=C2=A0 I'm sure he's been in more than that, es= p=0A as he's done more than a few recordings with William Parker.=C2=A0=0A= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Morris_(guitarist) =0A =20 =0A And also I'll chip in Mary Halvorson as a great NYC guitarist.=C2=A0 S= he's=0A usually involved in Anthony Braxton's new ensembles but her MH Tri= o is g/b/d=0A and there's also her group People.=C2=A0 Just saw her and Je= ssica Pavone play=0A in an attic in Guelph and it was good shit.=0A http:= //www.maryhalvorson.com/=C2=A0 Nice article on her and Jessica in Signal=0A= to Noise a few issues back and I think another of her groups is mentioned= in=0A a recent issue of The Wire. =0A =20 =0A I don't know how hard core free jazz/avant-garde these two are conside= red -=0A they're both pretty jazzy but do have an edge to their playing... =0A =20 =0A The problem is that for for this kind of music, anything goes.=C2=A0 Y= ou=0A don't need a "classic" line-up.=C2=A0 If all you've got is two=0A n= ose-flute players and a bagpiper, you're good to go! =0A =20 =0A =20 =0A Ted H. =0A =20 =0A =20 =0A =20 =0A Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =0A =20 =0A --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Kris Hartung wrote: =0A =20 =0A From: Kris Hartung =0A Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios =0A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0A Received: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 7:11 PM =0A =0A =0A I'm=0A doing= music research for a new project I'm putting together. I need to=0A const= ruct an audio=C2=A0study of free jazz and/or avant-garde=0A guitar/bass/dr= um trios...the more obscure the better. =0A =0A =0A =C2=A0 =0A =0A =0A= This=0A is what I have so far, not all of which is that far out, but it'= s the best I=0A can do.=C2=A0 Those with an * next to them are not really = free jazz or=0A avant-garde, but a good representation of the instrumentat= ion in modern jazz. =0A =0A =0A =C2=A0 =0A =0A =0A Bill=0A Frisell -= Live =0A =0A =0A Joe=0A Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture =0A = =0A =0A John=0A Abercrombie - In the Moment, November, and self titled (= with Marc Johnson and=0A Peter Erskine) =0A =0A =0A John=0A Scofield -= Out Like a Light * =0A =0A =0A John=0A Stowell -Somewhere * =0A =0A = =0A Lorne=0A Lofskey - Self Titled * =0A =0A =0A Mike=0A Stern - Stan= dards * =0A =0A =0A Nels=0A Cline Trio - Ground =0A =0A =0A Pat=0A = Metheny - Trio Live * =0A =0A =0A =C2=A0 =0A =0A =0A Any=0A others I= can add? There must be more than this. 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Forgot to add this OT earlier:

Mar= y Halvorson's gear when I saw her was her big fat jazz box (1970 Guild Arti= st Award) and using a Rat distortion (pretty sure it was a Turbo Rat), a DL= 4 (left on one of the delay settings with an expression pedal), and a volum= e pedal.  (A nice variation on the vintage Bill Frisell set-up!)
She got good use out of the volume pedal as her guitar has acoustic sound= , she'd keep playing even when the pick-up volume was at zero.

Jessi= ca Pavone had her viola was plugged into a Fender Blender pedal.

I c= an't recall amps, but wouldn't be surprised if they were borrowed for the g= ig.


ted h.

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner H= erzog

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Dean, Hal <HDean@wcupa.edu> wrote:

From: Dean, Hal <HDean@wcupa.= edu>
Subject: RE: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum TriosTo: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
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<= span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">From:<= /span> ditch wrestler=0A[mailto:ditchwrestler@yahoo.com]
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=0A I haven't seen anybody mention Joe Morris - not the fame= d NY Giants running=0A back, but the Boston-based guitarist/bassist and fa= culty at the New England=0A Conservatory.  I'd have to dig around to = see all that I've got of his=0A but I know "Age of Everything" (which is g= reat!) is=0A guitar/bass/drums recording.  I'm sure he's been in more= than that, esp=0A as he's done more than a few recordings with William Pa= rker. =0A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Morris_(guitarist)
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=0A And also I'll chip in Mary Halvorson as a great NYC guitarist.&nb= sp; She's=0A usually involved in Anthony Braxton's new ensembles but her M= H Trio is g/b/d=0A and there's also her group People.  Just saw her a= nd Jessica Pavone play=0A in an attic in Guelph and it was good shit.=0A = http://www.maryhalvorson.com/  Nice article on her and Jessica in Sign= al=0A to Noise a few issues back and I think another of her groups is ment= ioned in=0A a recent issue of The Wire.
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=0A From: Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com>=0A Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
=0A To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
=0A Received: Sunday, March 28, 20= 10, 7:11 PM

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I'm=0A doing music research for a new project I'm putting together. I= need to=0A construct an audio study of free jazz and/or avant-garde= =0A guitar/bass/drum trios...the more obscure the better.

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This=0A is what I have so far, not all of which is= that far out, but it's the best I=0A can do.  Those with an * next t= o them are not really free jazz or=0A avant-garde, but a good representati= on of the instrumentation in modern jazz.

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Bill=0A Frisell - Live

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Joe=0A Morris - Antennae and Symbolic Gesture

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John=0A Abercrombie - In the Mome= nt, November, and self titled (with Marc Johnson and=0A Peter Erskine)

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John=0A Scofield - Out= Like a Light *

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John= =0A Stowell -Somewhere *

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Lorne=0A Lofskey - Self Titled *

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Mike=0A Stern - Standards *

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Any=0A others I can add? There must be mo= re than this. Oddly, this is a difficult=0A subject to search for on Googl= e and music sites.  There needs to be a=0A music search engine that a= llows you to search by genre and exact=0A instrumentation.

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Mine tends to do unpredictable and uneven =20 pitch glitching lately which is a shame since those nice time/=20 pitchshifts are clearly the coolest feature of the unit. Does anyone =20 dare to service these at all? Regards, Andreas Am 30.03.2010 um 23:26 schrieb Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-=20 delight.com: > Von: tyler newman > Datum: 30. M=E4rz 2010 21:11:08 MESZ > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: digitech pds8000 output volume > > > hi- > > hello nice list people. > > so, i have this digitech pds-8000 which is one of my greatest =20 > musical devices. however, the output volume is a bit =20 > lacking...regardless of where the mix knob is set, i feel like it's =20= > seriously killing not just the input volume from the guitar (which =20 > is run through a different pedal: digitech rp-1000 before hitting =20 > the pds), but also the output volume is just...not enough. > > this pedal is obviously pretty old, and probably needs some kind of =20= > servicing. does anyone know if there's any kind of output stage =20 > mod, or if there's a repair that i can get done, that will fix this =20= > problem? > > i mean, does anyone know about this problem, or is it just my =20 > particular unit? > > thanks for any advice! > > - tyler --Apple-Mail-2--379475731 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I always found that the output = level of my PDS8000 is about 1:1, no level boost possible despite it's = IN and OUT level controls, but it doen't cut volume down. Mine tends to = do unpredictable and uneven pitch glitching lately which is a shame = since those nice time/pitchshifts are clearly the coolest feature of the = unit. Does anyone dare to service these at = all?

Regards, = Andreas


Am 30.03.2010 um 23:26 = schrieb Loopers-Deli= ght-d-request@loopers-delight.com:

Von: tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com>=

Datum: 30. M=E4rz 2010 21:11:08 = MESZ

An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Betreff: digitech pds8000 output = volume


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hi-


hello nice list people.


so, i have this digitech pds-8000 which is one of my greatest = musical devices. however, the output volume is a bit = lacking...regardless of where the mix knob is set, i feel like it's = seriously killing not just the input volume from the guitar (which is = run through a different pedal: digitech rp-1000 before hitting the pds), = but also the output volume is just...not enough.


this pedal is obviously pretty old, and probably needs some = kind of servicing. does anyone know if there's any kind of output stage = mod, or if there's a repair that i can get done, that will fix this = problem?


i mean, does anyone know about this problem, or is it = just my particular unit?


thanks for any = advice!


- tyler

=

= --Apple-Mail-2--379475731-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 21:46:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53DD23BEA0; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-06.arcor-online.net AAC8839A572 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1269985611; bh=iCix3UfCusr76ps2CVdSJ5Z4nGlFUMxXK4OgRUVAzM8=; h=Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date; b=S4s6mGc0udDAPoGvDtzMiS5O+/BPd4QmUKfn6RnCS9T5VuLN3/1pv9AzGkmBvZ1ok +KEkEYs0AMrJ1o4C56BjNwGyMQn9j0+M3BPTbrgSbVLfeyvb1xHLVPL+WASrUYUNRG XCy0PDRqIJ+vo31dLjV1xMB7DodC6c+cK/DtgnUc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--379364899 From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: digitech pds8000 output volume Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:46:51 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:46:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--379364899 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I always found that the output level of my PDS8000 is about 1:1, no =20 level boost possible despite it's IN and OUT level controls, but it =20 doen't cut volume down. Mine tends to do unpredictable and uneven =20 pitch glitching lately which is a shame since those nice time/=20 pitchshifts are clearly the coolest feature of the unit. Does anyone =20 dare to service these at all? Regards, Andreas Am 30.03.2010 um 23:26 schrieb Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-=20 delight.com: Von: tyler newman Datum: 30. M=E4rz 2010 21:11:08 MESZ An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: digitech pds8000 output volume hi- hello nice list people. so, i have this digitech pds-8000 which is one of my greatest musical =20= devices. however, the output volume is a bit lacking...regardless of =20 where the mix knob is set, i feel like it's seriously killing not =20 just the input volume from the guitar (which is run through a =20 different pedal: digitech rp-1000 before hitting the pds), but also =20 the output volume is just...not enough. this pedal is obviously pretty old, and probably needs some kind of =20 servicing. does anyone know if there's any kind of output stage mod, =20 or if there's a repair that i can get done, that will fix this problem? i mean, does anyone know about this problem, or is it just my =20 particular unit? thanks for any advice! - tyler --Apple-Mail-3--379364899 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
I always = found that the output level of my PDS8000 is about 1:1, no level boost = possible despite it's IN and OUT level controls, but it doen't cut = volume down. Mine tends to do unpredictable and uneven pitch glitching = lately which is a shame since those nice time/pitchshifts are clearly = the coolest feature of the unit. Does anyone dare to service these at = all?

Regards, Andreas

Am 30.03.2010 um 23:26 schrieb Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com:<= /font>
Von: tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com>
Datum: 30. = M=E4rz 2010 21:11:08 MESZ
Betreff: digitech pds8000 output = volume


hi-

hello nice list people.

so, i = have this digitech pds-8000 which is one of my greatest musical devices. = however, the output volume is a bit lacking...regardless of where the = mix knob is set, i feel like it's seriously killing not just the input = volume from the guitar (which is run through a different pedal: digitech = rp-1000 before hitting the pds), but also the output volume is = just...not enough.

this pedal is obviously pretty old, and probably needs = some kind of servicing. does anyone know if there's any kind of output = stage mod, or if there's a repair that i can get done, that will fix = this problem?

i mean, does anyone know about this problem, or is it = just my particular unit?

thanks for any advice!

- = tyler

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looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8E433BE81; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <15177785.576.1269984810547.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <15177785.576.1269984810547.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:02:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2010 22:02:48.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC3D1370:01CAD054] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Interesting. The whole debate over what gear to use for jazz boxes is hilarious. I can't believe some of the arguments I see, when everything basically comes down to personal taste. And then you see what Mary is using and it defies a lot of other recommendations, which is great. What is the cleanest or best amp? What is the cleanest most flat frequency response speaker? What archtop projects the most or has the fattest acoustic sound? What is the best jazz guitar? And so on ad infinitum. Everyone has the best answer. In the end, there is no jazz guitar or jazz amp per se, especially when you have guys like Joe Pass using Telecasters. With my new Mirabela 17 inch archtop, I went with the following: I run into my Boss VF1 for reverb and a tiny bit of delay (and chorus, if I want a Mike Stern/Abrocrombie sound), then.....and then....because I can't make up my mind on whether I like an ultra clean SS state tone or a warm and spongy tube tone, I decided to have it both ways. Out of one channel of the Boss VF1 I run into an Acoustic Image Claris 1 head and a JBL 1X12 sealed and ported cabinet, in which I installed an Emincence Delta Pro 12A 400 Watt speaker. It is a very obedient speaker, like the rock of gibalter :) Out of the other channel, I am running into a Peavey Delta Blue 1X15 tube combo amp, which I bought new last month but now selling and replacing with a Fender Hot Rod Series Blues Junior NOS 15W 1x12 (Jensen speaker) Tube Guitar Combo Amp....because the Delta Blue is just too god damned loud....crimey. Excellent tone, but is really for a bigger club with no PA. So I will have an interesting blended set of tones. Kris ----- Original Message ----- *** Forgot to add this OT earlier: Mary Halvorson's gear when I saw her was her big fat jazz box (1970 Guild Artist Award) and using a Rat distortion (pretty sure it was a Turbo Rat), a DL4 (left on one of the delay settings with an expression pedal), and a volume pedal. (A nice variation on the vintage Bill Frisell set-up!) She got good use out of the volume pedal as her guitar has acoustic sound, she'd keep playing even when the pick-up volume was at zero. Jessica Pavone had her viola was plugged into a Fender Blender pedal. I can't recall amps, but wouldn't be surprised if they were borrowed for the gig. ted h. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 22:34:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A289D3BE87; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269988470; bh=YSmeSHaaj59Ls31+zuyum0svqi9DF2tn8vvCbpuKahs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OiJTpAcMt8/229EP2zypWjvrMzmoXSQM5VB6Bxj/etSJx1VuV6S0I5AiHsUnF4f+fskS9ZZ63f+ZvBkOeXe+bwmVXeP2wfNHF8UKptPD8kmmh9pQkrSQIdqUxknCbQeDOGSmd+gziX2Hjuu4AWKJLuEshBo9DJ+r/99CfoulwjA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LxfUxRDHJky4xZGZIGwugdPbCflWwk5W/zZS1GA90iXAoq6GElEfGFUDwKNjqyzO80JEOB/x+Enw+PuaC++S0DJ5W+Fp515yjy+Z1bpJct9LMX9DQFSWO1FTF1UwcwhOYkmgtJqcskzSVMRs+MlSC6bY+g0AqMsQJotdWn0Upk4=; Message-ID: <506901.45221.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PpDcqlYVM1kwtPKOteVBySK65LJcOiF_hkUzW_7RJfv8mUv 138wGFcN_3M7JBAJSPNUDhYN7YKW4Gb2_G.4htQf7OSHFoLeb5y5Dqu1EPUo OTtbdouowpzhnzTFXGUIrctgCPo25ISHJ0cvvglhDas9DA4kdIRpz6QZGyOD GQanVrCNrtp7VkQgZExj0oo4TuV39Yewq7wrGe5ErZ5eYmue4thgLW0.W9.E wzOLRWcW37m1Tsc24cOKQG_9TrrDMc6L8KC16EyThbP1seLieP..F6HgAaWg k.goZLNcLe38Obr8cRmawCSMwgJ1pT4YaJWesZ5K5foUWDjFUrGYZ X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:34:30 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-182925160-1269988470=:45221" Resent-Message-ID: <4dTwOB.A.jfF.3xnsLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:34:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-182925160-1269988470=:45221 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with Kris on 'what works, works!' approach to gear.=A0 Too many =0Apeop= le get hung on stupid things and lose sight of what's actually =0Aimportant= . But=0A it's the library guy in me, though, that wants to make a minor =0Aco= rrection - while Joe Pass might've used a Telecaster, it doesn't seem =0Ato= be well documented.=A0 The most likely candidate when people think of =0A"= jazz" and "Telecaster" is my fellow Canuck, Ed Bickert. ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Kris Hartung wrote: From: Kris Hartung Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 3:02 PM Interesting.=A0 The whole debate over what gear to use for jazz boxes is hi= larious.=A0 I can't believe some of the arguments I see, when everything ba= sically comes down to personal taste. And then you see what Mary is using a= nd it defies a lot of other recommendations, which is great.=A0 What is the= cleanest or best amp? What is the cleanest most flat frequency response sp= eaker? What archtop projects the most or has the fattest acoustic sound? Wh= at is the best jazz guitar?=A0 And so on ad infinitum. Everyone has the bes= t answer.=A0 In the end, there is no jazz guitar or jazz amp per se, especi= ally when you have guys like Joe Pass using Telecasters. With my new Mirabela 17 inch archtop, I went with the following: I run into my Boss VF1 for reverb and a tiny bit of delay (and chorus, if I= want a Mike Stern/Abrocrombie sound), then.....and then....because I can't= make up my mind on whether I like an ultra clean SS state tone or a warm a= nd spongy tube tone, I decided to have it both ways. Out of one channel of = the Boss VF1 I run into an Acoustic Image Claris 1 head and a JBL 1X12 seal= ed and ported cabinet, in which I installed an Emincence Delta Pro 12A 400 = Watt speaker. It is a very obedient speaker, like the rock of gibalter :)= =A0 Out of the other channel, I am running into a Peavey Delta Blue 1X15 tu= be combo amp, which I bought new last month but now selling and replacing w= ith a Fender Hot Rod Series Blues Junior NOS 15W 1x12 (Jensen speaker) Tube= Guitar Combo Amp....because the Delta Blue is just too god damned loud....= crimey. Excellent tone, but is really for a bigger club with no PA. So I will have an interesting blended set of tones. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 *** Forgot to add this OT earlier: Mary Halvorson's gear when I saw her was her big fat jazz box (1970 Guild A= rtist Award) and using a Rat distortion (pretty sure it was a Turbo Rat), a= DL4 (left on one of the delay settings with an expression pedal), and a vo= lume pedal.=A0 (A nice variation on the vintage Bill Frisell set-up!) She got good use out of the volume pedal as her guitar has acoustic sound, = she'd keep playing even when the pick-up volume was at zero. Jessica Pavone had her viola was plugged into a Fender Blender pedal. I can't recall amps, but wouldn't be surprised if they were borrowed for th= e gig. ted h. =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AGet the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! G= o to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ --0-182925160-1269988470=:45221 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm with Kris on 'what works, works!' app= roach to gear.  Too many =0Apeople get hung on stupid things and lose = sight of what's actually =0Aimportant.

But=0A it's the library guy i= n me, though, that wants to make a minor =0Acorrection - while Joe Pass mig= ht've used a Telecaster, it doesn't seem =0Ato be well documented.  Th= e most likely candidate when people think of =0A"jazz" and "Telecaster" is = my fellow Canuck, Ed Bickert.


ted h.

Enemies are good for= self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Kris Hartung= <khartung@q.com> wrote:

F= rom: Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avan= t-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comReceived: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 3:02 PM

Interesting.  The whole debate over what gear to use for jazz boxes = is hilarious.  I can't believe some of the arguments I see, when every= thing basically comes down to personal taste. And then you see what Mary is= using and it defies a lot of other recommendations, which is great.  = What is the cleanest or best amp? What is the cleanest most flat frequency = response speaker? What archtop projects the most or has the fattest acoustic sound? What is the best jazz guitar? = ; And so on ad infinitum. Everyone has the best answer.  In the end, t= here is no jazz guitar or jazz amp per se, especially when you have guys li= ke Joe Pass using Telecasters.

With my new Mirabela 17 inch archtop,= I went with the following:

I run into my Boss VF1 for reverb and a = tiny bit of delay (and chorus, if I want a Mike Stern/Abrocrombie sound), t= hen.....and then....because I can't make up my mind on whether I like an ul= tra clean SS state tone or a warm and spongy tube tone, I decided to have i= t both ways. Out of one channel of the Boss VF1 I run into an Acoustic Imag= e Claris 1 head and a JBL 1X12 sealed and ported cabinet, in which I instal= led an Emincence Delta Pro 12A 400 Watt speaker. It is a very obedient spea= ker, like the rock of gibalter :)  Out of the other channel, I am runn= ing into a Peavey Delta Blue 1X15 tube combo amp, which I bought new last month but now selling and replacing with a Fender Hot Rod Series Blue= s Junior NOS 15W 1x12 (Jensen speaker) Tube Guitar Combo Amp....because the= Delta Blue is just too god damned loud....crimey. Excellent tone, but is r= eally for a bigger club with no PA.

So I will have an interesting bl= ended set of tones.

Kris

----- Original Message -----
***=
Forgot to add this OT earlier:

Mary Halvorson's gear when I saw = her was her big fat jazz box (1970 Guild Artist Award) and using a Rat dist= ortion (pretty sure it was a Turbo Rat), a DL4 (left on one of the delay se= ttings with an expression pedal), and a volume pedal.  (A nice variati= on on the vintage Bill Frisell set-up!)

She got good use out of the = volume pedal as her guitar has acoustic sound, she'd keep playing even when= the pick-up volume was at zero.

Jessica Pavone had her viola was pl= ugged into a Fender Blender pedal.

I can't recall amps, but wouldn't be surprised if they were borrowed for the gig.


ted h.=


=0A
Be s= marter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot = with the All-n= ew Yahoo! Mail --0-182925160-1269988470=:45221-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 30 22:39:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D55F83BE86; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Fw: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:39:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0900_01CAD027.8B0AC040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2010 22:39:48.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[E76F53A0:01CAD059] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:39:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0900_01CAD027.8B0AC040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, Joe and the tele is not well documented. I think he used it in his = early years when playing in combos, and before his agent told him that = he had to play solo to make a living...that is what prompted him to = development that amazing chord solo method of this....mind blowing. Of many other jazzers have used solid bodies...Abercrombie, Mike Stern, = Lorne Lofkey, Ted Green (monster chord architect), and so on. You can = easily get a big fat sound out of a solid body if you just use the neck = pickup and an amp that can produce the tone. All this debate and in the = end it's a pickup on a stick of wood. :) =20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 I'm with Kris on 'what works, works!' approach to gear. Too = many people get hung on stupid things and lose sight of what's actually = important. But it's the library guy in me, though, that wants to make a = minor correction - while Joe Pass might've used a Telecaster, it doesn't = seem to be well documented. The most likely candidate when people think = of "jazz" and "Telecaster" is my fellow Canuck, Ed Bickert. ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Kris Hartung wrote: From: Kris Hartung Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 3:02 PM Interesting. The whole debate over what gear to use for jazz = boxes is hilarious. I can't believe some of the arguments I see, when = everything basically comes down to personal taste. And then you see what = Mary is using and it defies a lot of other recommendations, which is = great. What is the cleanest or best amp? What is the cleanest most flat = frequency response speaker? What archtop projects the most or has the = fattest acoustic sound? What is the best jazz guitar? And so on ad = infinitum. Everyone has the best answer. In the end, there is no jazz = guitar or jazz amp per se, especially when you have guys like Joe Pass = using Telecasters. With my new Mirabela 17 inch archtop, I went with the = following: I run into my Boss VF1 for reverb and a tiny bit of delay (and = chorus, if I want a Mike Stern/Abrocrombie sound), then.....and = then....because I can't make up my mind on whether I like an ultra clean = SS state tone or a warm and spongy tube tone, I decided to have it both = ways. Out of one channel of the Boss VF1 I run into an Acoustic Image = Claris 1 head and a JBL 1X12 sealed and ported cabinet, in which I = installed an Emincence Delta Pro 12A 400 Watt speaker. It is a very = obedient speaker, like the rock of gibalter :) Out of the other = channel, I am running into a Peavey Delta Blue 1X15 tube combo amp, = which I bought new last month but now selling and replacing with a = Fender Hot Rod Series Blues Junior NOS 15W 1x12 (Jensen speaker) Tube = Guitar Combo Amp....because the Delta Blue is just too god damned = loud....crimey. Excellent tone, but is really for a bigger club with no = PA. So I will have an interesting blended set of tones. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 *** Forgot to add this OT earlier: Mary Halvorson's gear when I saw her was her big fat jazz box = (1970 Guild Artist Award) and using a Rat distortion (pretty sure it was = a Turbo Rat), a DL4 (left on one of the delay settings with an = expression pedal), and a volume pedal. (A nice variation on the vintage = Bill Frisell set-up!) She got good use out of the volume pedal as her guitar has = acoustic sound, she'd keep playing even when the pick-up volume was at = zero. Jessica Pavone had her viola was plugged into a Fender Blender = pedal. I can't recall amps, but wouldn't be surprised if they were = borrowed for the gig. ted h. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark = your favourite sites. Download it now!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0900_01CAD027.8B0AC040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, Joe and the tele is not well = documented. I=20 think he used it in his early years when playing in combos, and before = his agent=20 told him that he had to play solo to make a living...that is what = prompted him=20 to development that amazing chord solo method of this....mind=20 blowing.
 
Of many other jazzers have used solid=20 bodies...Abercrombie, Mike Stern, Lorne Lofkey, Ted Green (monster chord = architect), and so on. You can easily get a big fat sound out of a solid = body if=20 you just use the neck pickup and an amp that can produce the tone.  = All=20 this debate and in the end it's a pickup on a stick of wood. :) =20
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----

 

I'm with Kris on 'what works, works!' = approach to=20 gear.  Too many people get hung on stupid things and lose = sight of=20 what's actually important.

But it's the library guy in = me,=20 though, that wants to make a minor correction - while Joe Pass = might've=20 used a Telecaster, it doesn't seem to be well documented.  = The most=20 likely candidate when people think of "jazz" and "Telecaster" is = my=20 fellow Canuck, Ed Bickert.


ted.

Enemies are = good for=20 self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, = Kris=20 Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

From:=20 Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Free=20 Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Tuesday, = March 30,=20 2010, 3:02 PM

Interesting.  The whole debate = over what=20 gear to use for jazz boxes is hilarious.  I can't believe = some of=20 the arguments I see, when everything basically comes down to = personal=20 taste. And then you see what Mary is using and it defies a lot = of=20 other recommendations, which is great.  What is the = cleanest or=20 best amp? What is the cleanest most flat frequency response = speaker?=20 What archtop projects the most or has the fattest acoustic = sound? What=20 is the best jazz guitar?  And so on ad infinitum. = Everyone has=20 the best answer.  In the end, there is no jazz guitar or = jazz amp=20 per se, especially when you have guys like Joe Pass using=20 Telecasters.

With my new Mirabela 17 inch archtop, I = went with=20 the following:

I run into my Boss VF1 for reverb and a = tiny bit=20 of delay (and chorus, if I want a Mike Stern/Abrocrombie = sound),=20 then.....and then....because I can't make up my mind on = whether I like=20 an ultra clean SS state tone or a warm and spongy tube tone, I = decided=20 to have it both ways. Out of one channel of the Boss VF1 I run = into an=20 Acoustic Image Claris 1 head and a JBL 1X12 sealed and ported = cabinet,=20 in which I installed an Emincence Delta Pro 12A 400 Watt = speaker. It=20 is a very obedient speaker, like the rock of gibalter :)  = Out of=20 the other channel, I am running into a Peavey Delta Blue 1X15 = tube=20 combo amp, which I bought new last month but now selling and = replacing=20 with a Fender Hot Rod Series Blues Junior NOS 15W 1x12 (Jensen = speaker) Tube Guitar Combo Amp....because the Delta Blue is = just too=20 god damned loud....crimey. Excellent tone, but is really for a = bigger=20 club with no PA.

So I will have an interesting blended = set of=20 tones.

Kris

----- Original Message -----=20
***
Forgot to add this OT earlier:

Mary = Halvorson's gear=20 when I saw her was her big fat jazz box (1970 Guild Artist = Award) and=20 using a Rat distortion (pretty sure it was a Turbo Rat), a DL4 = (left=20 on one of the delay settings with an expression pedal), and a = volume=20 pedal.  (A nice variation on the vintage Bill Frisell=20 set-up!)

She got good use out of the volume pedal as = her guitar=20 has acoustic sound, she'd keep playing even when the pick-up = volume=20 was at zero.

Jessica Pavone had her viola was plugged = into a=20 Fender Blender pedal.

I can't recall amps, but wouldn't = be=20 surprised if they were borrowed for the gig.


ted=20 h.


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DIRECTOR - = DEPARTMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND INDUSTRY 

AFRICAN DEVELOPM= ENT BANK (AFDBANK)

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DIRECTOR - = DEPARTMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND INDUSTRY 

AFRICAN DEVELOPM= ENT BANK (AFDBANK)

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=0A=0A=0A=0A=   --0-1908945973-1270042531=:89120-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 14:06:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CC0E3BE85; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DsjnAPne7+YXjczacm8jZHj+XuQtdAfe2fOP1MgavB4=; b=UaWrwWxDupvSI9V6VnWw9oxa8ilSI5vG++9X0zb4EInBkqeiUUeLT39qJ+1YIta5hf 85ZStkGDxIc1PT6PeLm/ORQiUuhTvsbo1JM7SkuWbwM0r6uVLnGIcGh6WwtY3VKjE33j 2TQJ3FEesqui7tbLhR8UXipzizF7YnRwzogYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NATSJfYwZmAHwKt6chjsm6vtgeLq8cQitXdfKXgAgRMpbkVSOUTbwm9nJjYJZtqmWS 25Tc+5wCjbc8dkcJ0wDvQBr4dZsHpR7TQgVT4tpGsu2wuK3K7r1R6NLZRvRvdtjWkDHS s+lKfojj3V7xg8tSmW6+AltCQMV+IYXICNEI4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:06:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Rick's rhythm intensive From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e8329842480483193f06 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:06:13 +0000 (UTC) --00151750e8329842480483193f06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I had a rhythm intensive with Rick last year, after the in Rome Loopfest. We were enjoing Nick Bartsch's music with Bernhard Wagner, who showed us the "thelevi" a percussion from ghana with which you can play odd time signature (3-5-7-9-11....) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EvbJm2rwQg Rick showed me his method scomposing rhythms on a dozen of papers, playing them with his voice or tapping fingers on the table and the explanation was very neat...I'm grateful to Rick for that "free lesson" and I raccomend him for those who are looking for a rhythm intensive. It was like a gift I had from the loopfest: I falled in love with rhythm: odd time signatures; phase shifted patterns, polyrhythms and so on... Sometimes, when I look for something I still pick up Rick's writings, or work with thelevi. It's a dimension full of discoveries I have ever think at. Just now - several years and ...hairs later - I'm going more deeply into this fascinating side of music. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/3/31 Per Boysen > Yes, Rick's Rhythm Intense is great! On both Swedish Live Looping > Tours I have arranged here, in 2003 and 2008, Rick has been part of > the program and I have witnessed many of his rhythm clinics. It is > amazing how fast people learn from him. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Daryl Shawn > wrote: > > I've been wanting to remark for a while on the rhythm intensive I took a > few > > months ago with Rick Walker (I think a few others here have taken it too, > > yes? Luis or Per, maybe?). For anyone who's looking to improve their > > rhythmic sense, or just expand their musical consciousness, I can't > > recommend it enough, really. The coolest part is him showing how any > rhythm, > > no matter how complicated, can be broken down to its component parts, > which > > fit in a nicely finite family of building blocks. It's changed the way I > > pick up and can respond to beats that I hear, pretty dramatically. I took > a > > rhythm workshop with Cyro Baptista last month, and I realized there that > > Rick's instruction had made me way more confident and comfortable with > > rhythm than I'd ever been before. > > > > It's also just a pile of fun learning about things like the percentage of > > swing in a particular beat, or the characteristic rhythms in music I had > > never heard of. This is a massive understatement for anyone who knows > him, > > but Rick has gotten around. A fount o' rhythmic knowledge. > > > > (It's kinda worth the trip to Santa Cruz just to see his magic house of > > instruments from all over the place. It is wondrous. But I know he's been > > looking into doing long-distance lessons over video, too, which is nice > for > > our far-flung group here.) > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > > > > --00151750e8329842480483193f06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had a rhythm intensive with Rick last year, after the in Rome Loopfe= st.
We were enjoing Nick Bartsch's music with Bernhard Wagner, who sho= wed
us the "thelevi" a percussion from ghana with which you can = play odd
time signature (3-5-7-9-11....)
=A0
Rick showed me his method scomposing rhythms on a dozen of papers,
playing them with his voice or tapping fingers on the table and the ex= planation
was very neat...I'm grateful to Rick for that "free lesson&qu= ot; and I raccomend him
for those who are looking for a rhythm intensive.
=A0
It was like a gift I had from the loopfest: I falled in love with rhyt= hm: odd time signatures;
phase shifted patterns, polyrhythms and so on...
Sometimes, when=A0I look for something=A0I still=A0pick up Rick's = writings, or work with thelevi.
It's a dimension full of discoveries I have ever think at.
Just now - several years and ...hairs later - I'm going more deepl= y into this fascinating side of music.
=A0
-fabio
=A0
=A0
2010/3/31 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Yes, Rick's Rhythm Intense i= s great! On both Swedish Live Looping
Tours I have arranged here, in 200= 3 and 2008, Rick has been part of
the program and I have witnessed many of his rhythm clinics. It is
amazi= ng how fast people learn from him.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
>= ; I've been wanting to remark for a while on the rhythm intensive I too= k a few
> months ago with Rick Walker (I think a few others here have taken it t= oo,
> yes? Luis or Per, maybe?). For anyone who's looking to impr= ove their
> rhythmic sense, or just expand their musical consciousnes= s, I can't
> recommend it enough, really. The coolest part is him showing how any r= hythm,
> no matter how complicated, can be broken down to its compone= nt parts, which
> fit in a nicely finite family of building blocks. I= t's changed the way I
> pick up and can respond to beats that I hear, pretty dramatically. I t= ook a
> rhythm workshop with Cyro Baptista last month, and I realized= there that
> Rick's instruction had made me way more confident a= nd comfortable with
> rhythm than I'd ever been before.
>
> It's also ju= st a pile of fun learning about things like the percentage of
> swing= in a particular beat, or the characteristic rhythms in music I had
> never heard of. This is a massive understatement for anyone who knows = him,
> but Rick has gotten around. A fount o' rhythmic knowledge.=
>
> (It's kinda worth the trip to Santa Cruz just to see h= is magic house of
> instruments from all over the place. It is wondrous. But I know he'= ;s been
> looking into doing long-distance lessons over video, too, w= hich is nice for
> our far-flung group here.)
>
> Daryl S= hawn
> www.swanwelde= r.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>


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i was diggin your recomendations for a great acoustic guitar m= ic but wanted to make sure before i buy
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how would it differe from the 4050? is it worth paying the x tra cash?<= br>thANX MAN!
Luis
--001636833a444f59b90483194321-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 14:42:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D62423BE85; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:42:43 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_09e6a8e6-af06-4c45-8e76-5113ca369641_" X-Originating-IP: [86.145.88.245] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:37:42 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2010 14:37:42.0237 (UTC) FILETIME=[B85568D0:01CAD0DF] Resent-Message-ID: <8Cv3OD.A.w7F.j91sLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:42:43 +0000 (UTC) --_09e6a8e6-af06-4c45-8e76-5113ca369641_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 4050 just has more selectable polar patterns than the 4033. Have you considered a c1000? peace G Date: Wed=2C 31 Mar 2010 16:07:13 +0200 Subject: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com hey bro=2C=20 i was diggin your recomendations for a great acoustic guitar mic but wanted= to make sure before i buy is this the one you wer talking about? http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIO-TECHNICA-AT4033-AT-4033-AT4033cl-PROAUDIOSTAR_W0Q= QitemZ290418828924QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=3Ditem439e4fa6= 7c how would it differe from the 4050? is it worth paying the x tra cash? thANX MAN! Luis =20 _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_09e6a8e6-af06-4c45-8e76-5113ca369641_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 4050 just has more selectable polar patterns than the 4033.
Have you= considered a c1000?

peace

G

D= ate: Wed=2C 31 Mar 2010 16:07:13 +0200
Subject: Recommendations for Micr= ophone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar
From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com<= br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

hey bro=2C
i was digg= in your recomendations for a great acoustic guitar mic but wanted to make s= ure before i buy
is this the one you wer talking about?

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIO-TECHNICA-AT4033-AT-4033-AT4033cl-PROAUDIO= STAR_W0QQitemZ290418828924QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=3Ditem= 439e4fa67c

how would it differe from the 4050? is it worth paying the x tra cash?<= br>thANX MAN!
Luis

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------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C2A9A6.1225043E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 15:09:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EDDD3BE81; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GhgRVgqGf9JF2aM/hPdbHhJujha+BqQF0bIQE6ZgqqY=; b=wqCiJF+z358WuHcwl15ofzDmJ+4el2Wu4M3im0QqAPVhK7gEruxCitGrcRveQ9RBnr ZAtkpR/pzPtvGhzpZHrTcdKNF9ae/zgRAWan7ydsaw15ik3UGPuaEAVRR6sl2L44uaK4 lABSPUM7ZuDjJSlLh5sGaGCBh0J+lRWqXZGpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ol9Lxwube80V7vgBwTLMFAKA6pWzyEt4EPcf0KgT+87Zgja8Bi4uw69Hquf09uV2Kg ysminPf5C++Lp8zEpKvTbC8qPliM0YZnuVzg36UYe1IHuVvxWRC/zK4bmAiteospL/6B gC93r2qEApCBavSpw+SXyQkieXoeebRwzvC10= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:09:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e649ce4662975504831a20fa Resent-Message-ID: <_rqs_.A.OcG.WW2sLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:10 +0000 (UTC) --0016e649ce4662975504831a20fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ive tried the c1000 is quite nice as well but somehow the AT seems to be more of whati m looking for my brother had an early at 2050 and i was impressed with its quality recording acoustics! cheers Luis 2010/3/31 Gareth Whittock > The 4050 just has more selectable polar patterns than the 4033. > Have you considered a c1000? > > peace > > G > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:07:13 +0200 > Subject: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > hey bro, > i was diggin your recomendations for a great acoustic guitar mic but wanted > to make sure before i buy > is this the one you wer talking about? > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIO-TECHNICA-AT4033-AT-4033-AT4033cl-PROAUDIOSTAR_W0QQitemZ290418828924QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439e4fa67c > > how would it differe from the 4050? is it worth paying the x tra cash? > thANX MAN! > Luis > > ------------------------------ > Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now > --0016e649ce4662975504831a20fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ive tried the c1000 is quite nice as well but somehow the AT seems to be mo= re of whati m looking for my brother had an early at 2050 and i was impress= ed with its quality recording acoustics!
cheers
Luis

2010/3/31 Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
The 4050 just has more selectable polar patterns than the 4033.
Have you= considered a c1000?

peace

G

Date: Wed, 31 Mar 201= 0 16:07:13 +0200
Subject: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or = Acoustic Guitar
From: loui= e.angulo@googlemail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


hey bro,
i was diggin your recomendatio= ns for a great acoustic guitar mic but wanted to make sure before i buy
= is this the one you wer talking about?

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIO-TECHNICA-AT4033-AT-4033-AT4033cl-PROAUDIOSTAR= _W0QQitemZ290418828924QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=3Ditem439e= 4fa67c

how would it differe from the 4050? is it worth paying the x tra cash?<= br>thANX MAN!
Luis

Do you have a stor= y that started on Hotmail? Tell us now

--0016e649ce4662975504831a20fa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 15:13:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 845083BE84; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ptJZ1V+x9WK+kzEpFSfHc2v5yVPo2OxYkDvysqJncho=; b=HnYrOI79jaoemjn38KdYCRH5f0jGGVEPlwU0uyg62tgEKlB4AvRpJdWE0Qm7USKaYn LsqAOILbYAiTO9ggIqIfWxNijlso6/Lr+mgzPyUasW7t6l8eMwKmAC4Og1ZX5EeQ6sVY C+hRxG+dUKEX9FA0iXmgvRgtQGW0aC+zaKJNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GJpo5xbhHhmLlYSDDJhFRrRTfN/32zm9TFQVYvCvkVx3buVKfYna9UMQ7I+5rqbJUn G/m1PAOvLy67xyM5GnvZZYEfrt7YFb786oPsaAMQFKTexa5xGe3dygYmcoY2jjuyA1bW UJlj+e/1Q37h8NlMjSUOpYHvxcddHrBgve+AI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:13:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b64ded5ef5804831a2f9c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:13:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016367b64ded5ef5804831a2f9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 sure does look good but that thing is going to be a war tank! just look at it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0WuawfeYyY it doesnt look like is going to fit a pedaboard either and i dont even what to know its weight;-) 2010/3/30 William Walker > When it finally comes out the Voodoo Labs Versa is probably the only one > that can handle that many 12 volt and high mili amp sources. > bill > > --0016367b64ded5ef5804831a2f9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sure does look good but that thing is going to be a war tank!
just look = at it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DU0WuawfeYyY

it doesnt look lik= e is going to fit a pedaboard either and i dont even what to know its weigh= t;-)








2010/3/30 Willia= m Walker <bi= llwalker@baymoon.com>
When it finally comes out the Voodoo Labs Versa is probably the only one th= at can handle that many 12 volt and high mili amp sources.
bill


--0016367b64ded5ef5804831a2f9c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 15:35:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF9AB3BE88; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <23644201.681461270049727376.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:35:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: How to use two Lexicon jamman together MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SenderIP: 93.46.219.14 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:35:28 +0000 (UTC) A few days ago i bought my second hand Lexicon jamman expanded for 250 $...am i driving mad? ...no ;-), i just wanted to connect them in order to have a real stereo signal. So i connected them using midi thinking that this could syncronize them but it didn't worked! the second jam refused to sync with the first. Got any idea bofore to build a custom pedal with two jacks? T.I.A. Max Liver From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 16:05:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 790213BE88; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 309 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:05:40 UTC Message-ID: <075801cad0f3$d9117230$925d0418@vulcan> From: "d.nix" To: References: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> <4BB30548.4080605@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:01:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: <5Og0ID.A.ulH.UL3sLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the warning Andy, looks like it's the FCB1010 then. > > However, I may have a chance to pick up a fairly new Yamaha MFC10 controller > > for quite cheap, so I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with it... > > Yep, ...it's total junk for looping. > I'm not opposed to the FCB at all, especially since there is lots of end user support and editors and firmware upgrades and such. Except for the fact it's huge. :-) Thanks! Dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 16:15:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 147043BE88; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SblZqYKrH7nlJMm2mxlZgm+gqYK2ap/2xkLYB2jcxJs=; b=bWlfEA8akzNAuW3QRt64ZcpCiEvHLQNZ03SaJto8QkLKst+r7EQMLs1bdlO5izh1zw 632BOQAQ3zH/1DhJdf8Qm1ykYkPOvlkj8LxiXzCP3MkSz1EFCi81BFg2J5B2wpd3ciBV qyg5IVoU+kOXMQy694INP5qe1LltfZaTlE0WA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fzz1RAoDZut+INYLgLNXnn4TeGD+I5jNoF92rVN3eQXM2hirMHPfYi5DqWHsRGKD91 3/pWUkZZVtVL1O8OE593kwkfEpIUbIuEbhZA9nQS9cldxoN3RL2yrIXTM8PUNAUXk3VO EjhoDYbufYXkEFlKrghJwSPwg8KVymoaMTvko= Message-ID: <4BB37507.9040909@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:15:03 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > ive tried the c1000 is quite nice as well but somehow the AT seems to > be more of whati m looking for my brother had an early at 2050 and i > was impressed with its quality recording acoustics! > cheers > Luis I always found the C1000 to be very peculiar - a contributor on (I think it was) recording.org once described it as "it has both too much and not enough hi-mids/his at the same time", and that basically nails it - I like to use it for close-miking percussion or drum OH if I'm after a very Eighties sound. Apart from that, it's very much a swiss army knife of a microphone...will run on battery power and is very reliable. The AT4050 is what I use for basically everything which does call for a large-diaphragm mike but at a little more distance than close-miking, e.g. on vocals in combination with a Solidtube (http://moinlabs.de/uploads/pics/ws_voc.jpg, although you may call this example over-engineering, since it was done to only capture a short shout: http://bit.ly/aDQ7GC). Summary: the AT4050 is good for everything. The C1000 is a little special in its sound characteristics, but contrary to the AT you won't need to worry subjecting it to rough handling on the road. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 16:18:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2B3C3BE8C; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8825BD7A-CFEF-4E4D-8D76-C92AA47F419A@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question (another) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:18:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Andy, you might check out the Dunlop DC brick, has a lot of inputs, a high milli amp rating and can go any where in the world including Norwich!, The Voodoo Labs Versa might also work. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 16:18:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92C573BE8F; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_caf6ec67-05c1-473b-aea0-a92b5db45ab2_" X-Originating-IP: [86.145.88.245] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:18:45 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4BB37507.9040909@googlemail.com> References: ,<4BB37507.9040909@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2010 16:18:45.0877 (UTC) FILETIME=[D68B7250:01CAD0ED] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:18:47 +0000 (UTC) --_caf6ec67-05c1-473b-aea0-a92b5db45ab2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Horses for courses I suppose. I've had great results with the c1000 and the= 4050 is a little lacking in top end for me. It's a bit like choosing a gui= tar though - a matter of personal taste.. Good hunting! g > Date: Wed=2C 31 Mar 2010 18:15:03 +0200 > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guita= r >=20 > Louie Angulo schrieb: > > ive tried the c1000 is quite nice as well but somehow the AT seems to=20 > > be more of whati m looking for my brother had an early at 2050 and i=20 > > was impressed with its quality recording acoustics! > > cheers > > Luis > I always found the C1000 to be very peculiar - a contributor on (I think= =20 > it was) recording.org once described it as "it has both too much and not= =20 > enough hi-mids/his at the same time"=2C and that basically nails it - I=20 > like to use it for close-miking percussion or drum OH if I'm after a=20 > very Eighties sound. >=20 > Apart from that=2C it's very much a swiss army knife of a=20 > microphone...will run on battery power and is very reliable. >=20 > The AT4050 is what I use for basically everything which does call for a=20 > large-diaphragm mike but at a little more distance than close-miking=2C=20 > e.g. on vocals in combination with a Solidtube=20 > (http://moinlabs.de/uploads/pics/ws_voc.jpg=2C although you may call this= =20 > example over-engineering=2C since it was done to only capture a short=20 > shout: http://bit.ly/aDQ7GC). >=20 > Summary: the AT4050 is good for everything. The C1000 is a little=20 > special in its sound characteristics=2C but contrary to the AT you won't= =20 > need to worry subjecting it to rough handling on the road. >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_caf6ec67-05c1-473b-aea0-a92b5db45ab2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Horses for courses I suppose. I've had great results with the c1000 and the= 4050 is a little lacking in top end for me. It's a bit like choosing a gui= tar though - a matter of personal taste..
Good hunting!

g

= >=3B Date: Wed=2C 31 Mar 2010 18:15:03 +0200
>=3B From: moinsound@go= oglemail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Su= bject: Re: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar>=3B
>=3B Louie Angulo schrieb:
>=3B >=3B ive tried the c10= 00 is quite nice as well but somehow the AT seems to
>=3B >=3B be m= ore of whati m looking for my brother had an early at 2050 and i
>=3B= >=3B was impressed with its quality recording acoustics!
>=3B >= =3B cheers
>=3B >=3B Luis
>=3B I always found the C1000 to be v= ery peculiar - a contributor on (I think
>=3B it was) recording.org o= nce described it as "it has both too much and not
>=3B enough hi-mids= /his at the same time"=2C and that basically nails it - I
>=3B like t= o use it for close-miking percussion or drum OH if I'm after a
>=3B v= ery Eighties sound.
>=3B
>=3B Apart from that=2C it's very much = a swiss army knife of a
>=3B microphone...will run on battery power a= nd is very reliable.
>=3B
>=3B The AT4050 is what I use for basi= cally everything which does call for a
>=3B large-diaphragm mike but = at a little more distance than close-miking=2C
>=3B e.g. on vocals in= combination with a Solidtube
>=3B (http://moinlabs.de/uploads/pics/w= s_voc.jpg=2C although you may call this
>=3B example over-engineering= =2C since it was done to only capture a short
>=3B shout: http://bit.= ly/aDQ7GC).
>=3B
>=3B Summary: the AT4050 is good for everything= . The C1000 is a little
>=3B special in its sound characteristics=2C = but contrary to the AT you won't
>=3B need to worry subjecting it to = rough handling on the road.
>=3B
>=3B Rainer
>=3B=
>=3B --
>=3B http://moinlabs.de
>=3B Follow me on twitter= : http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>=3B

Do you = want a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free = --_caf6ec67-05c1-473b-aea0-a92b5db45ab2_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 16:28:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F9B93BE89; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=o3WcnbOOAq6R1MT/E954QJbjtFImOG4HrouA4umM/m0=; b=NibVoRjFqKOCcI8k4v/L1O3GailFmDxoRS94mGfzCwIp3+/xyPDzHR6oTTJAOxwIxj nHoOGPQm3UGyK8DVSFokQWeNPhYTWinjtlfWOFHXzbYB+llQepFhlC51i62AHSVDOsHi iy9nJtpnnHaT5JnFOOStMtjWy78a/1w5eIHKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=pLmuwIZpuujmmUb3XLpZQMrVdhiAuSLZgpcZY7aUsJ07aAFgMdevnB/Z1UAv1wLv5j +nobry39wLEF0lMpZq/MhLqLwnB3BCQHg1CEYwWLR0TMmCwrLLWU7qAEb4K9YXSxW4b0 wzE3tMvcqtCYWEprs7rvX5XuhbQfuPs4oprSE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: How to use two Lexicon jamman together From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <23644201.681461270049727376.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:27:37 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5795BA9E-51A2-4FE6-9A32-96B73578F27D@gmail.com> References: <23644201.681461270049727376.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:28:13 +0000 (UTC) It would not be a real stereo signal anyway since the two machines would = not be in phase (as they are with the EDPs BrotherSync). After each loop = end, you would probably hear the loop in a different spot in space. On 31 Mar 2010, at 12:35, Massimo Liverani wrote: > A few days ago i bought my second hand Lexicon jamman expanded for 250 = $...am i=20 > driving mad? ...no ;-), i just wanted to connect them in order to have = a real=20 > stereo signal.=20 > So i connected them using midi thinking that this could syncronize = them but it=20 > didn't worked! the second jam refused to sync with the first.=20 > Got any idea bofore to build a custom pedal with two jacks?=20 > T.I.A. > Max Liver=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 16:30:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 960543BE8E; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3610 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:30:51 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--315573755 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:30:02 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:30:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-22--315573755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > sure does look good but that thing is going to be a war tank! > just look at it here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0WuawfeYyY > > it doesnt look like is going to fit a pedaboard either and i dont > even what to know its weight;-) > True, but that may not be the final version of the product. Since it's been revised and reworked for well over a year, I wouldn't think that its dimensions are automatically going to be the same as the prototype shown in that video. But, who knows. It definitely looks huge, but I can't imagine how Voodoo Lab would release a product that wasn't going to fit on or under (?) most pedal boards. Jeff --Apple-Mail-22--315573755 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

sure does look good but that thing is going to be a war tank!
just look at it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0WuawfeYyY

it doesnt look like is going to fit a pedaboard either and i dont even what to know its weight;-)


True, but that may not be the final version of the product. Since it's been revised and reworked for well over a year, I wouldn't think that its dimensions are automatically going to be the same as the prototype shown in that video. But, who knows.

It definitely looks huge, but I can't imagine how Voodoo Lab would release a product that wasn't going to fit on or under (?) most pedal boards. 

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-22--315573755-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 16:35:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58F233BE99; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3620 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:35:38 UTC Message-id: <329B3B05-5B5D-4206-B8D6-A54BCF1B4CF7@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:34:35 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:35:38 +0000 (UTC) And a demo video with a Versa on a pedal board: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDIDy6ErukE&NR=1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 16:56:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DF293BEBA; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=UwDp1uM+bnlKN68VUTdDLTU6lQJ6/suyxQvncSMyUoA=; b=O9aE8Xgw1tCumi7WRijMbrhbDdH/5eUBesE5sa+B/TZbhfROCuXGnIhIQ6Demp5adh A81Qq5Ah3bI7XyzRgw5O6LpfKtk4DyasjOKWeZcteVis6EhphrOn+HvFRgwMIbIZXuq/ DcjCGVs/aU8biqGoZ/73mDCjasreETZ38TwGw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=Sp6yMTuS+pQhzKETtb1Oh6VnZ6QrE4n+857+RGHzFFHb21kiM9Ac7QtDu792G3DyP9 cmvWNN6POCbBygeJgFwQZvc/Ngmdqf1seYeQ/phRuvpvTTnKtFcrtBaSlmobbCJanB3O VM0tUHdusqk9VrtQHdpkYTnAzJ4O3ZzlIjbZI= Message-Id: From: Gmail To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <5795BA9E-51A2-4FE6-9A32-96B73578F27D@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 7E18) Subject: Re: How to use two Lexicon jamman together Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:57:03 +0100 References: <23644201.681461270049727376.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> <5795BA9E-51A2-4FE6-9A32-96B73578F27D@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:56:54 +0000 (UTC) This was not my experience Sent from my iPod On 31 Mar 2010, at 17:27, Matthias Grob wrote: > It would not be a real stereo signal anyway since the two machines > would not be in phase (as they are with the EDPs BrotherSync). After > each loop end, you would probably hear the loop in a different spot > in space. > > On 31 Mar 2010, at 12:35, Massimo Liverani wrote: > >> A few days ago i bought my second hand Lexicon jamman expanded for >> 250 $...am i >> driving mad? ...no ;-), i just wanted to connect them in order to >> have a real >> stereo signal. >> So i connected them using midi thinking that this could syncronize >> them but it >> didn't worked! the second jam refused to sync with the first. >> Got any idea bofore to build a custom pedal with two jacks? >> T.I.A. >> Max Liver >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 17:02:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1703A3BECD; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.177.49] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <27296482.203.1270044840480.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <27296482.203.1270044840480.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:01:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0147_01CAD0C1.92D2BB30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2010 17:02:27.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[F11695E0:01CAD0F3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:02:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CAD0C1.92D2BB30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...wasn't sure if you were talking to me, Luis. The Audio Technica I = bought was just an inexpensive clip on condensor, the Pro 70, which is = marketed for acoustic guitar (used by many gypsy jazz guitarists in = Europe), and addresses the feedback problem with the standard pencil = condensor mics on stage (at least as a primary source for input). For a = higher end condensor mic, I bought the Sure KSM 137, recommended by a = Sure engineer who plays archtop jazz guitar. http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_KSM137-SL_= content The two Audio Technica mics that I consdered were the large condensor AT = 4050 (multi-pattern large diaphram), which I think is an outstanding mic = but overkill for what I wanted to do. = http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/194ac5d60380d624/index.html = (I still may get one, for recording). =20 ...and the Audio Technica pencil condesor mic, AT 4051b condensor. = http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/7a24561e8865117b/index.html I decided to go with the Shure, however, based on my discussion with the = Sure enginner and the fact that he was using the mic for exactly the = application I was intending. All these mics by Sure and AT in the $300-600 range are really good in = my opinion. I just took the leap and picked on based on comments. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 hey bro,=20 i was diggin your recomendations for a great acoustic guitar mic but = wanted to make sure before i buy is this the one you wer talking about? = http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIO-TECHNICA-AT4033-AT-4033-AT4033cl-PROAUDIOSTAR_W= 0QQitemZ290418828924QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=3Ditem439e= 4fa67c how would it differe from the 4050? is it worth paying the x tra cash? thANX MAN! Luis ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CAD0C1.92D2BB30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...wasn't sure if you were talking to = me,=20 Luis.  The Audio Technica I bought was just an inexpensive clip on=20 condensor, the Pro 70, which is marketed for acoustic guitar (used by = many gypsy=20 jazz guitarists in Europe), and addresses the feedback problem with the = standard=20 pencil condensor mics on stage (at least as a primary source for = input). =20 For a higher end condensor mic, I bought the Sure KSM 137, recommended = by a Sure=20 engineer who plays archtop jazz guitar.
 
http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/= us_pro_KSM137-SL_content
 
The two Audio Technica mics that I = consdered were=20 the large condensor AT 4050 (multi-pattern large diaphram), which I = think is an=20 outstanding mic but overkill for what I wanted to do.  http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/194ac5d60380d624/in= dex.html =20 (I still may get one, for recording). 
 
...and the Audio Technica pencil = condesor mic, AT=20 4051b condensor.  http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/7a24561e8865117b/in= dex.html
 
I decided to go with the Shure, = however, based on=20 my discussion with the Sure enginner and the fact that he was using the = mic for=20 exactly the application I was intending.
 
All these mics by Sure and AT in the = $300-600 range=20 are really good in my opinion.  I just took the leap and picked on = based on=20 comments.
 
Kris
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
 
hey bro,
i was = diggin your=20 recomendations for a great acoustic guitar mic but wanted to make sure = before=20 i buy
is this the one you wer talking about?

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIO-TECHNICA-AT4033-AT-4033-AT4033c= l-PROAUDIOSTAR_W0QQitemZ290418828924QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0= ?hash=3Ditem439e4fa67c

how=20 would it differe from the 4050? is it worth paying the x tra = cash?
thANX=20 MAN!
Luis
------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CAD0C1.92D2BB30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 17:05:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 066CF3BEE0; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <58ED367B-58CE-4492-80E3-4C41CBD2E367@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:05:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:05:34 +0000 (UTC) "The most likely candidate when people think of "jazz" and "Telecaster" is my fellow Canuck, Ed Bickert." Ed Bickert, What a great and underrated player, also on the list of great tele jazzers was the late great tele master and educator, Ted Greene, to quote Mark Knopfler from Sultan's of Swing, "check out guitar joe, he knows all the chords" Ted's books are still essential study for anyone wanting to understand chord melody and substitution. Also the late great Danny Gatton who could and would play anything on a tele. My current "jazz" box is my custom made thinline tele that I went so far as to put two humbucking pickups on, but am considering replacing with some twangier pu's. I've found that one can approximate a good dark jazz tone on single coil pickups, but that its more difficult to get a brighter twangier sound out of humbuckers without radical use of equalization, or coil splitting which never sounds quite convincing. Hey Kris i thought you said you have an Eastman archtop, did you bite the bullet and buy an American made instrument? 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FROM: THE SECRETARY NIGERIA FINANCIAL INTELLIGENCE UNIT From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 19:07:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43D0A3BE86; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=JqLVYqhilStBdqL6Og94UuAAIvUMn/HHHuXDABETZBk=; b=hdKx0MdteZ9wt44nfYsWH58nzU5A14/InQOMRKycENZXnLJO/r9S6CcHUZun1hmXnk oL4qU8sizNzpYQlHF6SEWzn3e7jaJFQnlaWW3DlJtOAxW+K00xNwSbrpKpzM+dBwZQ6N MHHR97mzvGmcVgmvYDinOnYKlI3kvs97hESBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=qVkvDC9gk4T/Ej4SnbpJyugEk+82k2uNqc0CZOg0CPWOC0XkMGRYJ5yRQVd4J7jmOV W0Ip/WmGpCVwxwOeQ4d2rMYZevrVOm8vaf5xjG+FFFnSr5niNjXYj3y5zgED4XUUyo0Y S4SHUHyxPcUsGqF/U/W/fF941t7sjymanH7b4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:07:29 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2b491e878a5d2b27 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003311207j316ba021r5d2b112e97a6a6bb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - Rick's rhythm intensive To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485326159535dbc04831d764e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:07:52 +0000 (UTC) --001485326159535dbc04831d764e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It IS amazing, as an exercise, but Im not sure I really get it.. When you had a number on the screen saying 7 for example, was that one click every 7 shakes? Cos that not what I call a time signature really, its just a clikc every 7 shakes.. the "groove" for me was the shakes... and (being pretty rudimentary rhythmically (fave drummer Mo Tuck)) my foot was still four on the floor, it was not pushed to to a new rhythm... I like the sound of musical poly rhythms (5 note riffs against 6 note for ex) but this seems to be an (extremely clever and unbelievably skillful) exercise in juggling... now... fit some sensors to those things and have them triggering samples.. THAT would be something... On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:09 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > Fabio_A wrote: > > We were enjoing Nick Bartsch's music with Bernhard Wagner, who showed >> us the "thelevi" a percussion from ghana with which you can play odd >> time signature (3-5-7-9-11....) >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EvbJm2rwQg >> > > amazing! > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001485326159535dbc04831d764e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It IS amazing, as an exercise, but Im not sure I really get it..
When yo= u had a number on the screen saying 7 for example, was that one click every= 7 shakes? Cos that not what I call a time signature really, its just a cli= kc every 7 shakes.. the "groove" for me was the shakes... and (be= ing pretty rudimentary rhythmically (fave drummer Mo Tuck))=A0 my foot was = still four on the floor, it was not pushed to to a new rhythm... I like the= sound of musical poly rhythms (5 note riffs against 6 note for ex) but thi= s seems to be an (extremely clever and unbelievably skillful) exercise in j= uggling...

now... fit some sensors to those things and have them triggering sample= s.. THAT would be something...

On Wed, Ma= r 31, 2010 at 8:09 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


Fabio_A wrote:

We were enjoing Nick Bartsch's music with Bernhard Wagner, who showed us the "thelevi" a percussion from ghana with which you can play = odd
time signature (3-5-7-9-11....)
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_EvbJm2rwQg

amazing!




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--001485326159535dbc04831d764e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 19:10:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B43BA3BE80; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:10:35 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 66.202.7.114 In-Reply-To: <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 31226-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC9F1CF9FFFCB4-1578-25F24@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:10:56 +0000 (UTC) just received an M 13 on monday.....my setup: guitar>M=20 13>Champ.....OMG!!!!!.....it could be the "flush" of new sound lust but=20 "what the heck do i need all this other stuff for?".....all my pretty=20 boxes and blinky lites, my heavy rack, mixer etc.....in all honesty, i=20 fear removing my rang and substituting the M 13 for it in my big kit, i=20 might never come back.....but this new kit is the ultimate 1=20 tripper.....all i see adding is a small mixer and an additional speaker=20 for the STEREO goodness.....granted, this is young love but i am beyond=20 pleased not only with the looper functions but also the sound quality=20 of the many WONDERFUL (deep) patches.....plus the ability to go=20 pre/post loop with the fx.....yikes!!!!!......i want to take it=20 everywhere i go.....i can't wait to get a couple expression=20 pedals.....this is one lovely celestial communicator.....more reports=20 forthcoming.....m p.s. a big thank you to young Bill W for turning me on to this sweet=20 beast, a sweet beast himself!=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 19:26:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5ADFC3BE86; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MV01Nd1uLuQDBI65dcz2/H+lHU5VU3+2sZcJa6MOcJs=; b=lA9rmuVSvxcdB3QmAsxLuRlftS2qtLiDy5isuLgnmNVf3K0k91F3Ks90nbfvAJTeOR /ApSnxXB+oyEkbJlyGQH5uvGtzdnARrF4yKKTpAPtCzATsAlNAtdEfe/buex2BiISrRy 8JmgRqvA74OTVMP5l1oMZc4HsGW9vTaiFaMPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QhkHuhViIbp55M6NrKqZAey5g0uMMw0DM6f2D6OfdK/YyM/1n79IylmIx4kKacY+Sw FCpiivYO7qksGPaihn4flAFN0lZbXwg0nDOvbtBjbiATRXdtCIWsc7Urt2ck8epUtP8+ h8QoiO20Q02y4+y4/VKu118jS8fkI5yxoHaTM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003311207j316ba021r5d2b112e97a6a6bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f1003311207j316ba021r5d2b112e97a6a6bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:26:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Rick's rhythm intensive From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555415a7fefaa04831dba65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:26:55 +0000 (UTC) --00032555415a7fefaa04831dba65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > When you had a number on the screen saying 7 for example, was that one > click every 7 shakes? Cos that not what I call a time signature really, its > just a clikc every 7 shakes.. Mark, when you see 7, it means that I'm playing a pattern of 7 beats. For a better understanding: the pattern in 7 can be write like this: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 (beats) x x x x x x x x x x x x x x (shakes) c c (cliks) > the "groove" for me was the shakes... and (being pretty rudimentary > rhythmically (fave drummer Mo Tuck)) my foot was still four on the floor, > it was not pushed to to a new rhythm... even with the 3 or 5 or 7 patterns ? Maybe, you can't feel it because ther's no strong accent defining the patterns. > I like the sound of musical poly rhythms (5 note riffs against 6 note for > ex) but this seems to be an (extremely clever and unbelievably skillful) > exercise in juggling... > What I can say is that this "toy" has really improved my rhythm skill. Thanks for watching ! - fabio www.eterogeneo.com --00032555415a7fefaa04831dba65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When you had a number on the scr= een saying 7 for example, was that one click every 7 shakes? Cos that not w= hat I call a time signature really, its just a clikc every 7 shakes..
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Mark, when you see 7, it means that I'm playing a pattern of 7 bea= ts.
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x x x x x x x x x x x x x x=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (shakes)
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the "groove" for me wa= s the shakes... and (being pretty rudimentary rhythmically (fave drummer Mo= Tuck))=A0 my foot was still four on the floor, it was not pushed to to a n= ew rhythm...
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even with the 3 or 5 or 7 patterns ?
Maybe, you can't feel it=A0because ther's no strong accent def= ining the patterns.
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I like the sound of musical poly= rhythms (5 note riffs against 6 note for ex) but this seems to be an (extr= emely clever and unbelievably skillful) exercise in juggling...
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What I can say is that this "toy" has really improved my rhy= thm skill.=A0

=A0Thanks for watching !
=A0
- fabio
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--00032555415a7fefaa04831dba65-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 19:38:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 480DB3BE86; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=9XDOy6EwOcEhd1/aEKyUUaM3UbdxVq/EHtp9IY507eo=; b=lXvqrxrSap8cSR+yoRiLAJoGuSVN6q9uLK0ClXeV7el1it0Ss0JR5dPLg5fyCLD8EK u0W5QIh3E7Dc1Nmh2J7icttNZKSjwzQ651eRkgAQWrRUgoA3DzofzFVNDkkOC31Yf5vF Fv63SxtWuskc5h00gz5mCHDOE6be6X6CTIzUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=tai1gV+IswFUGRatR8MkJGofy3rZ+ajzEndWajxR4H0xcbyHZyeV4StT9gIWP2cYOm 4EQ68zWeISbwoPzJfI4XYtGxmv39HD0efWL2o+cc0i8ReUApLiBjRea8C1BaqSuLu8oC Pq2h6MrbQeg+IAE6doYaKr6n9p8NkP+viWvO8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f1003311207j316ba021r5d2b112e97a6a6bb@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:38:09 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eeba2a37c19b4dbf Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003311238v7f73a59ar70c614320a825411@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - Rick's rhythm intensive To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0b8540d6d9504831de4e7 Resent-Message-ID: <9M615.A.4ME.4S6sLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:38:32 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0b8540d6d9504831de4e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Excuse my french Fabio.. but Fucking Hell... You see why I see it as an exercise.. the sheer complexity and skill that that must take is totally beyond me.. its certainly doesn't SOUND that clever I'm afraid!!! I AM impressed and maybe just a little jealous, cos there no way I could do that in a million years. Theres a famous actors quote from Alec Guinness to Dustin Hoffman, after Hoffman spent the night on the street, because "his character was supposed to have spent the night on the street.. Guiness said.. "Why dont you try acting darling?" I'm tempted to say... "Why don't you use a drum machine?"... oops sorry! Im gonna get me one of those thing's and see what I can make of it... Mark On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > When you had a number on the screen saying 7 for example, was that one >> click every 7 shakes? Cos that not what I call a time signature really, its >> just a clikc every 7 shakes.. > > > Mark, when you see 7, it means that I'm playing a pattern of 7 beats. > For a better understanding: the pattern in 7 can be write like this: > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 (beats) > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x (shakes) > c c (cliks) > > > >> the "groove" for me was the shakes... and (being pretty rudimentary >> rhythmically (fave drummer Mo Tuck)) my foot was still four on the floor, >> it was not pushed to to a new rhythm... > > > even with the 3 or 5 or 7 patterns ? > Maybe, you can't feel it because ther's no strong accent defining the > patterns. > > >> I like the sound of musical poly rhythms (5 note riffs against 6 note for >> ex) but this seems to be an (extremely clever and unbelievably skillful) >> exercise in juggling... >> > > What I can say is that this "toy" has really improved my rhythm skill. > > Thanks for watching ! > > - fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0b8540d6d9504831de4e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excuse my french Fabio.. but Fucking Hell... You see why I see it as an exe= rcise.. the sheer complexity and skill that that must take is totally beyon= d me.. its certainly doesn't SOUND that clever I'm afraid!!!

I AM impressed and maybe just a little jealous, cos there no way I coul= d do that in a million years.

Theres a famous actors quote from Alec Guinness to Dustin Hoffman, afte= r Hoffman spent the night on the street, because "his character was su= pposed to have spent the night on the street.. Guiness said.. "Why don= t you try acting darling?"

I'm tempted to say... "Why don't you use a drum machine?&q= uot;...

oops sorry!

Im gonna get me one of those thing's= and see what I can make of it...

Mark




On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
When you had a nu= mber on the screen saying 7 for example, was that one click every 7 shakes?= Cos that not what I call a time signature really, its just a clikc every 7= shakes..
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Mark, when you see 7, it means that I'm playing a pattern of= 7 beats.
For a better=A0understanding: the pattern in=A07 can be write like thi= s:
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the "groove&= quot; for me was the shakes... and (being pretty rudimentary rhythmically (= fave drummer Mo Tuck))=A0 my foot was still four on the floor, it was not p= ushed to to a new rhythm...
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even with the 3 or 5 or 7 patterns ?
Maybe, you can't feel it=A0because ther's no strong accent def= ining the patterns.
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I like the sound = of musical poly rhythms (5 note riffs against 6 note for ex) but this seems= to be an (extremely clever and unbelievably skillful) exercise in juggling= ...
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What I can say is that this "toy" has really improved = my rhythm skill.=A0

=A0Thanks for watching !
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- fabio
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--000e0ce0b8540d6d9504831de4e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 19:44:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A69243BE84; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YhSzYN21/5MBGeODI83KM//4mnvWUg6AwVol0jvxREE=; b=IOEMWRlYN+fwHIbQrqPheYhoxcNv5eEN0QpWNXNmTiLib2hfU/Z1DAOQA45z0Ggq0X iyo5adui5Yo8bTTB0jFkRCpVyUnl3hsBy3y2l4fZ3wX8HNnz7fGU+fHqz01oYfO2Csez mtY5R6x/185eL4k74rSeIPxGKYrGu6S3RSn9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j8dq5oNTE/xyB2m0QXviLa29KandRwV9mlrcLc75vOBdzuVbW390SK2v4YXVZcwnG0 uuxuWhMIInZln0LSwpMppk+ntklMplvfMc6rF5vHEJmZTHJM1PYvzBTrTo63zwGOk6js K+LU1wovNG3eDcg5hI7c7x8IjfpxShSX8vJyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CC9F1CF9FFFCB4-1578-25F24@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> <8CC9F1CF9FFFCB4-1578-25F24@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:44:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6470cf8dfc85704831df747 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:44:03 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6470cf8dfc85704831df747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Michael sounds really cool box, enjoy as you are. I don't know it who makes it is it los Line 6? On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:10 PM, wrote: > just received an M 13 on monday.....my setup: guitar>M > 13>Champ.....OMG!!!!!.....it could be the "flush" of new sound lust but > "what the heck do i need all this other stuff for?".....all my pretty boxes > and blinky lites, my heavy rack, mixer etc.....in all honesty, i fear > removing my rang and substituting the M 13 for it in my big kit, i might > never come back.....but this new kit is the ultimate 1 tripper.....all i see > adding is a small mixer and an additional speaker for the STEREO > goodness.....granted, this is young love but i am beyond pleased not only > with the looper functions but also the sound quality of the many WONDERFUL > (deep) patches.....plus the ability to go pre/post loop with the > fx.....yikes!!!!!......i want to take it everywhere i go.....i can't wait to > get a couple expression pedals.....this is one lovely celestial > communicator.....more reports forthcoming.....m > p.s. a big thank you to young Bill W for turning me on to this sweet beast, > a sweet beast himself! > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016e6470cf8dfc85704831df747 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael sounds really cool box, enjoy as you are. I don't know it who m= akes it is it los Line 6?

On Wed, Mar 31,= 2010 at 3:10 PM, <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
just received an = M 13 on monday.....my setup: guitar>M 13>Champ.....OMG!!!!!.....it co= uld be the "flush" of new sound lust but "what the heck do i= need all this other stuff for?".....all my pretty boxes and blinky li= tes, my heavy rack, mixer etc.....in all honesty, i fear removing my rang a= nd substituting the M 13 for it in my big kit, i might never come back.....= but this new kit is the ultimate 1 tripper.....all i see adding is a small = mixer and an additional speaker for the STEREO goodness.....granted, this i= s young love but i am beyond pleased =A0not only with the looper functions = but also the sound quality of the many WONDERFUL (deep) patches.....plus th= e ability to go pre/post loop with the fx.....yikes!!!!!......i want to tak= e it everywhere i go.....i can't wait to get a couple expression pedals= .....this is one lovely celestial communicator.....more reports forthcoming= .....m
p.s. a big thank you to young Bill W for turning me on to this sweet beast,= a sweet beast himself!



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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--0016e6470cf8dfc85704831df747-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:13:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A25C23BE86; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 369258191/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.178.243/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.178.243 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4BACNKs0tPTrLz/2dsb2JhbAAHjz3NXIUABA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,343,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="369258191" Message-ID: <4BB3ACFA.50808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:13:46 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to use two Lexicon jamman together References: <23644201.681461270049727376.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> <5795BA9E-51A2-4FE6-9A32-96B73578F27D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5795BA9E-51A2-4FE6-9A32-96B73578F27D@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Matthias Grob wrote: > It would not be a real stereo signal anyway since the two machines would not be in phase >(as they are with the EDPs BrotherSync). After each loop end, you would probably hear the loop in a different spot in space. > the EDPs aren't perfect either, there's usually a Haas effect. In a complex arrangement this can produce nice panning of the different layers. (worth keeping this in mind as a feature) Much better than the Jamman though, midi sync is really rough sounding on that. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:16:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 025183BE84; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:subject :mime-version:date:references; bh=INgwiAVTYMve0J3ybsAW6Ep8MR8w15FMQN0j0ijue5I=; b=NUGdKcgI+juodj6lmZjcd2BMujErQIGGxO0EoDu++6Wy7NcYkjDmy7b7jtdx6n8b8X BIYi14qTvwM6bX3neL5BvrnhL1ooL2qpiZ9zTi+cWikiLbe85dQZQ//rjbey4CZfsEa5 G++mjiJTSCTyYR3LfhNEkAYuKgkWAItzplgYE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:subject:mime-version:date :references; b=caAAtxgafjSpBxyHOyt+fyJALZjBAIiKaG78VOq/8QpHpoM/y3lnz6TkI/yaNqEQ44 iwRWQQCUvRRj1krnsPJlNx9mNaMmkNYTsF1SQBb4yYkRhnBEYpCfl0ObPst2k9cuu85D p/cJivnUDEH9pc9VZWp9RTzNTN7X9+MhEi6o8= Message-Id: From: eterogeneo To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003311238v7f73a59ar70c614320a825411@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--298578277 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Subject: Re: OT - Rick's rhythm intensive Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:13:15 +0200 References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f1003311207j316ba021r5d2b112e97a6a6bb@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003311238v7f73a59ar70c614320a825411@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:16:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--298578277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I AM impressed and maybe just a little jealous, cos there no way I > could do that in a million years. I can see...That's the same I thought when Bernhard showed it. ...but after practicing for 3 months i was able to do what you've seen. It's like you teach your body to automate the movements. When the musical pattern became a phisical pattern the job is done ! > > Theres a famous actors quote from Alec Guinness to Dustin Hoffman, > after Hoffman spent the night on the street, because "his character > was supposed to have spent the night on the street.. Guiness said.. > "Why dont you try acting darling?" > > I'm tempted to say... "Why don't you use a drum machine?"... Different kind of fun...and ....usually I cannot plug a drum machine when I'm in my car stressed by the long traffic cue or bring it in my pockets, which are things I can do with thelevi :-) > oops sorry! > > Im gonna get me one of those thing's and see what I can make of it... You can ! Fabio > > > Mark > > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > When you had a number on the screen saying 7 for example, was that > one click every 7 shakes? Cos that not what I call a time signature > really, its just a clikc every 7 shakes.. > > Mark, when you see 7, it means that I'm playing a pattern of 7 beats. > For a better understanding: the pattern in 7 can be write like this: > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 (beats) > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x (shakes) > c c (cliks) > > > the "groove" for me was the shakes... and (being pretty rudimentary > rhythmically (fave drummer Mo Tuck)) my foot was still four on the > floor, it was not pushed to to a new rhythm... > > even with the 3 or 5 or 7 patterns ? > Maybe, you can't feel it because ther's no strong accent defining > the patterns. > > I like the sound of musical poly rhythms (5 note riffs against 6 > note for ex) but this seems to be an (extremely clever and > unbelievably skillful) exercise in juggling... > > What I can say is that this "toy" has really improved my rhythm skill. > > Thanks for watching ! > > - fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --Apple-Mail-1--298578277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I AM impressed and maybe just a little jealous, cos there no way I could do that in a million years.

I can see...That's the same I thought when Bernhard showed it.
...but after practicing for 3 months i was able to do what you've seen.
It's like you teach your body to automate the movements. When the musical pattern became a phisical pattern the job is done !


Theres a famous actors quote from Alec Guinness to Dustin Hoffman, after Hoffman spent the night on the street, because "his character was supposed to have spent the night on the street.. Guiness said.. "Why dont you try acting darling?"

I'm tempted to say... "Why don't you use a drum machine?"...

Different kind of fun...and ....usually I cannot plug a drum machine when I'm in my car stressed by the long traffic cue or bring it in my pockets, which are things I can do with thelevi :-)

oops sorry!

Im gonna get me one of those thing's and see what I can make of it...

You can !

Fabio



Mark




On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
When you had a number on the screen saying 7 for example, was that one click every 7 shakes? Cos that not what I call a time signature really, its just a clikc every 7 shakes..
 
Mark, when you see 7, it means that I'm playing a pattern of 7 beats.
For a better understanding: the pattern in 7 can be write like this:
 
1    2    3   4    5    6    7          (beats)
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x       (shakes)
c            c                             (cliks)
 
 
the "groove" for me was the shakes... and (being pretty rudimentary rhythmically (fave drummer Mo Tuck))  my foot was still four on the floor, it was not pushed to to a new rhythm...
 
even with the 3 or 5 or 7 patterns ?
Maybe, you can't feel it because ther's no strong accent defining the patterns.
  
I like the sound of musical poly rhythms (5 note riffs against 6 note for ex) but this seems to be an (extremely clever and unbelievably skillful) exercise in juggling...
 
What I can say is that this "toy" has really improved my rhythm skill. 

 Thanks for watching !
 
- fabio
 
 



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--Apple-Mail-1--298578277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:29:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C173BE93; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> <8CC9F1CF9FFFCB4-1578-25F24@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:28:50 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 66.202.7.114 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 31226-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC9F27E89987C5-1578-26B52@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:29:01 +0000 (UTC) i'm sorry jim.....i hate when people do that!.....yes LINE 6! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:29:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E48C3BE91; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gED56o8W8gtN7/f8puoQodYZZJ4BpgTGqceAGysURnA=; b=RHhc7DUWuwggeYr6wkQtyN726K2CRveM30pyz86Nmh/7mZNMcAMmERTqhX0FIkuZKT 7109cvlDfevxbpbySgi98Zg02xdnaZqIxx9xe9ewXRT1al9inkCeGSLFwJX0lm0IfKyP OZAOu/qFRgC0scBA39M1vhfRSAhKUlrTxpGck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Lbc9yYspTXG4t2ZgHRJQexdw44KlQfgysYcD7gbZtz96NrWiggKen4JuK8DU333tof 4sKdjKbznkV/4xSEx5ftBSqZjEECov38CUyEDkz5EQZg/eUDErmDUxRtZeTSFMZRqRJV WFYP9qwhZ3hoTBgcMvjewnqev9T0A7PI7AXZo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f1003311207j316ba021r5d2b112e97a6a6bb@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003311238v7f73a59ar70c614320a825411@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:29:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Rick's rhythm intensive From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:29:51 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:13 PM, eterogeneo wrote: > when > I'm in my car stressed by the long traffic cue or bring it in my pockets, > which are things I can do with thelevi :-) Rome has indeed become a dangerous city... Greetings from Sweden ;-) Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:30:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2B213BE98; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JWRYTon1m+qPI4JtTA/sof750iyhNcu2l8S2acO/Jbw=; b=muh5GLtHmaWCLGs9YoUst4/qFunkST3qcwl/f0IVPvwslRgbgW7tA0pp3AfD5ILDsZ nvCiygav8kPM3hrvWzVufF7mp+9KIFjZVsa195b3oBa1A0x/zzoCOvcB0R5uCKTxR3tQ oQcma08fXPDee9I8yOShwZwWW5OpBUdnlB5gQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g/W2vmJ46tzjZ0SpBLrduRilGVW1zeSSmLvfnEdEjjcdBTyuN+1H49o9t2ooGOH6Ji NYxuEVTIwiyDDqNxPl7RS1pgBhS0IV+VEiXQJkjmgtUD10gzrzh7VIOoJBXpj207x5Nv ya+cuSbyEHwo9Kwl+hfy2GkQ5RL2Rr0Q3CW2A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <071001cad0a3$138488e0$925d0418@vulcan> References: <06e801cad09a$59b70cb0$925d0418@vulcan> <071001cad0a3$138488e0$925d0418@vulcan> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 04:30:03 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Yamaha MFC10 midi foot controllers and the EDP-1 From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c25486a786604831e9c1e Resent-Message-ID: <6jMgtC.A.KaF.MD7sLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:30:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64c25486a786604831e9c1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Dave, Do you happen to be Dave Konopka from Battles? Btw my drummer needs so much more practice to keep up with our loops. Halimski On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:23 PM, d.nix wrote: > > > You've bought one? Where did you find it? > > I posted that I was looking for one on another music/guitar gear bulletin > board and was contacted by someone wishing to sell, and we came to an > agreement. But truthfully, at least in the US, I see them crop up on Ebay > pretty regularily. There are two on there now, and I've seen another one in > a local music store. > > > > > I'm quite new to the list as well, but I see you've caught the drift > quite > > easily... > > My question is, how are you going to sync things with your drummer? > > Or is he/she so good at time-keeping that it's possible to play with > these > > kinds of things in live situation? > > It is a unique learning experience to say the least, and does require the > other musicians - as well as myself - to be very precise and punctual. Some > times it works well and other times... Not so well. > > :-) > > But I think it can be done, with some practice - I saw Russian Circles do > it > live very well. Most impressive. There are several Youtube videos of them > where you can see/hear for yourself. The guitarist uses both a Akai > Headrush > and a Digitech JamMan (plus several analog delays), and nothing was synced > via midi or to the drums in any way... He was just very aware of the > downbeat and keeping track of what the drummer was doing. They also happen > to have an awesome drummer, a real machine of a timekeeper. My drummer is > gonna take some work, I'm afraid... > > :-) > > Regards- > > Dave > > > I got one group where I would like to use livelooping but never managed > to > > understand how drummer keeps up with it? :-) > > > > _Petri_ > > > > --0016e64c25486a786604831e9c1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dave,
Do you happen to be Dave Konopka from Battles? = Btw my drummer needs so much more practice to keep up with our loops.=A0

Halimski

On Wed,= Mar 31, 2010 at 3:23 PM, d.nix <d.nix@comcast.net> wrote:

> You've bought one? Where did you find it?

I posted that I was looking for one on another music/guitar gear bull= etin
board and was contacted by someone wishing to sell, and we came to an
agreement. But truthfully, at least in the US, I see them crop up on Ebay pretty regularily. There are two on there now, and I've seen another on= e in
a local music store.

>
> I'm quite new to the list as well, but I see you've caught the= drift quite
> easily...
> My question is, how are you going to sync things with your drummer? > Or is he/she so good at time-keeping that it's possible to play wi= th these
> kinds of things in live situation?

It is a unique learning experience to say the least, and does require= the
other musicians - as well as myself - to be very precise and punctual. Some=
times it works well and other times... Not so well.

:-)

But I think it can be done, with some practice - I saw Russian Circles do i= t
live very well. Most impressive. There are several Youtube videos of them where you can see/hear for yourself. The guitarist uses both a Akai Headrus= h
and a Digitech JamMan (plus several analog delays), and nothing was synced<= br> via midi or to the drums in any way... =A0He was just very aware of the
downbeat and keeping track of what the drummer was doing. They also happen<= br> to have an awesome drummer, a real machine of a timekeeper. My drummer is gonna take some work, I'm afraid...

:-)

Regards-

Dave

> I got one group where I would like to use livelooping but never manage= d to
> understand how drummer keeps up with it? :-)
>
> _Petri_
>


--0016e64c25486a786604831e9c1e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:33:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 188C43BE90; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1270067615; bh=WMrOXy1jDw00gVLUdOeGa4e9ftpWySNMgiGD/MNl8+o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wG3sImf7alcT5OSEwnyrcYL1Ti0Wpjm/k/ByKqW+v4hTflA+EYGus+P8CfpBz5w7d6eOGk5EhpGGHCj9cP6N9xJVmaBEDboINdqcZoyLsFeDwAMl+SMTsjxoosKJ2yivZ3T/kfbyCVREa/Ewil3/zVxAx2N/hgB0BmOEg8rWMWQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tovTRYQJGECh66dlYjPAJPPJW4DlNfWS3Xa+KnDp8fkXku1GP3dEI+TzCf/lBy/m6rH0rmFqWiEro+sAXyjnD61qLObVUSlmItrtVH1cra6KTHTnLMTySLOI6JQ9lkMCS/YT+TyoBdCR+ZohhpNcp1Akd256ZOqHmaH4EvxmYps=; Message-ID: <999017.37045.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4bMVu4IVM1lPbfyetT6RfghNO.gsODuXZA2bsT_co1llXov 3eUnTPWc9aiPQCrr5SSCgKcRIgj9LU0Zh3dSAyPKf3uXjsC9D7ixMUpArMKK YbSzhYMhDZD8cLhNDU26Bvg.do63j4kE0a2lmkYmA3MhLdJlxbIE64ny_QYE ycEGIBEQsI95xgK5NoxWo7wHIDJqdCzWY2GWmBPsl_TMuwbaYP6BoQ.lkfga FpdVGxKd44qwZqLnVRHsZ1X3zbi2O0l6LF5JpO.gSYTAsqY.JGg2IZaXIlSS CelkZf83yaOViJaEjZQMB8V14m2jMK0yrV8DVUNxC_YhtpQILnMCRRm2RNcw zuKg1LC9KhGz4h1Bvon1ENS3T X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CC9F1CF9FFFCB4-1578-25F24@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Oh man, I agree about how much fun you can have with it. When I bought the= M13, it replaced 10 of the 12 pedals on my board, including the RC2 I was = using as a looper, though it didn't replace my POG or the EX7 expression fa= ctory( I use the space station sound). I still keep some of my pedals hand= y, because while it does most things well, it doesn't do all I want it to. = So that, armed with the tutorial of some Effectology vids on You tube, I c= an make quite a racket and loop it all into sonic sludge, sprinkled with so= me post loop reverb and other goodies(like alternating compressors and trem= s). Makes me wonder why I even bought my new MO8 keyboard. --- On Wed, 3/31/10, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > From: nemoguitt@aol.com > Subject: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 2:10 PM > just received an M 13 on > monday.....my setup: guitar>M > 13>Champ.....OMG!!!!!.....it could be the "flush" of new > sound lust but "what the heck do i need all this other stuff > for?".....all my pretty boxes and blinky lites, my heavy > rack, mixer etc.....in all honesty, i fear removing my rang > and substituting the M 13 for it in my big kit, i might > never come back.....but this new kit is the ultimate 1 > tripper.....all i see adding is a small mixer and an > additional speaker for the STEREO goodness.....granted, this > is young love but i am beyond pleased=A0 not only with > the looper functions but also the sound quality of the many > WONDERFUL (deep) patches.....plus the ability to go pre/post > loop with the fx.....yikes!!!!!......i want to take it > everywhere i go.....i can't wait to get a couple expression > pedals.....this is one lovely celestial > communicator.....more reports forthcoming.....m > p.s. a big thank you to young Bill W for turning me on to > this sweet beast, a sweet beast himself!=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:34:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEB2A3BE94; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rPJaIjq8dEflGx5p3rBLLMVKqxuZ2g6qFeVwKFIKgKk=; b=PSdFVcLnugsGTWnqon01IT53uMQWx3zgZGMdaDh9fVOwxUu5uHAB2bJNKXhTghREfs XCilU8PEGvnbc7Tl9V9fAbbSHcXihwAH2XTslrGJKLTcrVfEgpWMV27EwqHHkyn0eXzp eibymyJZDb1mWS2Qv2kI7Frpt/h2o1r/jDaRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FGvmfmgIr+sz49GDt4p1vZQzvIvlVRsuU37e45kN6tEQC0Tmhz+u8aZU5zjPWqTd8P EdU6kMo0m9MuNNVXelDVCBZtR/HqDBLC/T+3iguHminzzhqVoA93nnxo1FVpcLCJtPqf yVk6fsJMnKgjPyu78B6zax1ouBincls4trdQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CC9F27E89987C5-1578-26B52@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> <8CC9F1CF9FFFCB4-1578-25F24@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> <8CC9F27E89987C5-1578-26B52@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:34:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f8fe45044b04204831ead88 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:34:46 +0000 (UTC) --00c09f8fe45044b04204831ead88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 me too it's a certain amount of arrogance in the 'clout' of course I do in other ways so don't throw stones... sending you a note offlist re something On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:28 PM, wrote: > i'm sorry jim.....i hate when people do that!.....yes LINE 6! > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --00c09f8fe45044b04204831ead88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable me too it's a certain amount of arrogance in the 'clout' of cou= rse I do in other ways so don't throw stones... sending you a note offl= ist re something

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at = 4:28 PM, <nemogu= itt@aol.com> wrote:
i'm sorry jim= .....i hate when people do that!.....yes LINE 6!

=A0



--
ReUse, an introspective= textural aural
www.myspace.c= om/CtReUse

music links...
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www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
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ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
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social networking...
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MARK EKE SPECIAL ADVISER TO THE PRESIDENT FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:47:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC8263BEA6; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 373122486/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.178.243/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.178.243 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4BABpSs0tPTrLz/2dsb2JhbAAHjz3OS4UABA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,343,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="373122486" Message-ID: <4BB3B4E0.8000502@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:47:28 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question (another) References: <8825BD7A-CFEF-4E4D-8D76-C92AA47F419A@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <8825BD7A-CFEF-4E4D-8D76-C92AA47F419A@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:47:28 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > Andy, you might check out the Dunlop DC brick, has a lot of inputs, a > high milli amp rating and can go any where in the world including > Norwich!, :-( unfortunately the Moogerfoogers need a +VE center polarity >The Voodoo Labs Versa might also work. same problem? any psu available which covers both polarities? > Bill thanks...andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 20:51:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0C9C3BEC1; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=P2iQT7JgG7h31QcWaYZ+3tT44bpiaN8/a18nu4fc1CU=; b=CrpzqFtjmEPPYhI6z062oTY3ZRQsh0UsW6UIlFQ0c/6lOQLAMmKVnJsxdRaQwBPvq0 B92YYqqWp9OfZO62sdIgBybLMFVvLV5rkDoZ2xVLlkhluVCY3xhT8S31MU/PHgUKxXI/ usRYxL1ZuT2Wdhnn/mr6AKGpcvbfG4zfZkRvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rpp/20PU6duPlnmUhbS5KI9/KL0X0VD/uQgM61UVOSfm6YlFNO6046eACjXIvoqkyZ WpO0LyF5Hoz7/oPk3FF66FhYvNLr/FAX/q5Oe0gaW62MYveFICa9KXoUapFhPkisBo3y 6Y6V5f7djFyio1HYfkWb4bU5gPiRQ6QuxCtOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CC9F1CF9FFFCB4-1578-25F24@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> References: <4BB2E1E6.1080104@mhorse.com> <4BB38FD9.1030707@tiscali.co.uk> <8CC9F1CF9FFFCB4-1578-25F24@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:51:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:51:44 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:10 PM, wrote: > i want to take it everywhere i go.....i can't wait to > get a couple expression pedals.....this is one lovely celestial > communicator.....more reports forthcoming.....m Glad you like the M13 Michael. I'm actually surprised that it hasn't been mentioned more on the list in the past. It's an amazingly good and flexible machine in this price range! PS Can you bake pancakes with it? ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 22:00:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0D213BE81; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <84FE7672B6544079A3F4FFDF2C164A91@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <27296482.200.1270055532144.JavaMail.root@n34> In-Reply-To: <27296482.200.1270055532144.JavaMail.root@n34> Subject: Re: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:21:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:00:26 +0000 (UTC) I've always loved the sound of a tele. I do have an Eastman still, but I bought this custom Mirabella last month. The Eastman is now my back up and travel guitar, since I probably won't feel comfortable checking the other one in, or putting in on the ala carte next to the plane. Here is my whole simplied setup now: http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear.htm Kris ----- Original Message ----- > "The most likely candidate when people think of "jazz" and "Telecaster" > is my fellow Canuck, Ed Bickert." > > Ed Bickert, What a great and underrated player, also on the list of > great tele jazzers was the late great tele master and educator, Ted > Greene, to quote Mark Knopfler from Sultan's of Swing, "check out guitar > joe, he knows all the chords" Ted's books are still essential study for > anyone wanting to understand chord melody and substitution. Also the late > great Danny Gatton who could and would play anything on a tele. My > current "jazz" box is my custom made thinline tele that I went so far as > to put two humbucking pickups on, but am considering replacing with some > twangier pu's. I've found that one can approximate a good dark jazz tone > on single coil pickups, but that its more difficult to get a brighter > twangier sound out of humbuckers without radical use of equalization, or > coil splitting which never sounds quite convincing. Hey Kris i thought > you said you have an Eastman archtop, did you bite the bullet and buy an > American made instrument? > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 22:00:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9D5A3BE85; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1638 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:00:26 UTC Message-ID: <528B40F7A4734BCF9375A1DC683B7D90@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Steinberg Cubase for Audio Recording and Mixing Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:02:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CAD0E3.1DBB05B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:00:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CAD0E3.1DBB05B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any opinions on Steinberg's Cubase for recording and mixing audio? I = see it is about $300 and wonder if it is worth it. I'll be using my RME = Fireface 400 as the interface. Anyway to get a demo version? Kris ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CAD0E3.1DBB05B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any opinions on Steinberg's Cubase for = recording=20 and mixing audio?  I see it is about $300 and wonder if it is worth = it.=20 I'll be using my RME Fireface 400 as the interface.  Anyway to get = a demo=20 version?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CAD0E3.1DBB05B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 22:55:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4529E3BE85; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cfLPaapK9HE+nJ2lnVmrftK+2EahpGMvIci2Ea8hmtY=; b=wsz2rDCWarANHDGhDs7SlCdLEQEWXRd2H+DV9CqO+or9Mui/2YRKIUesAPfClmuSYk DX35iCQk+1WcBS/DvZpEOH0lD6n5Cw9ElFfnLfNpRNeCW1FRVZlHWx3BsikXt5siSRI7 t7A7CoGdL4nVxjU5i2YJ+fDtwfeUBS6kCv7XQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iqwEb4MfoN6bTBcjM8UI+23cU7lWE7Hsj5c6g5AjJXymkVrhniIAwgDyK+eRVykxdA iV+P6cZ7zpDjmscEn9a9US0NhwChxb/m05ukUrERZFxb4n/mHowvaUWTROKoQ3NSIkFr 4NUOKoCgvKfgkv5Npr1aF2eW53ah5A7PGjP4o= Message-ID: <4BB3D2C5.6090704@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:55:01 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: [Fwd: Re: Steinberg Cubase for Audio Recording and Mixing] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3JY4eD.A.UeB.DL9sLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Kris Hartung schrieb: > Any opinions on Steinberg's Cubase for recording and mixing audio? I > see it is about $300 and wonder if it is worth it. I'll be using my > RME Fireface 400 as the interface. Anyway to get a demo version? I have an opinion: I like it. Note that there are (I think) three different versions: Cubase, Cubase Studio and Cubase Essential (in decreasing order of complexity and price), which are updateable. Plus, some gear manufacturers deliever some of their gear with a limited version (which is upgradeable) - I remember that when I decided to get Cubase some years ago, getting a Behringer UMX61 keyboard (which came with Cubase LE, as it was called then) and upgrading that to Cubase gave me the keyboard and Cubase - for about €100 less than the normal Cubase price ;). Cubase is (I believe) the oldest MIDI/audio sequencer still around, which you may see as a plus or as a minus. Still, when working natively on a Windows platform, there's nothing that can beat Cubase for what it does (due to the unavailability of Logic for that platform). Depending on what it is what you want to do, you may be better off with something more simple (and cheap). As for a demo: http://www.steinberg.net/index.php?id=2772&L=1 What I especially like of the relatively new features is the integration of hardware (synths/effects) into the production flow (only in the big version) and the very powerful control room feature (also, big version only). There's also very powerful score capabilities...any more specific questions? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 22:57:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 389393BE87; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FYYPe8ongUMuzC602Db9twb3frPJiwITi2zBwL4oqok=; b=uj9XeRt5NhVAweYjmV28FlBp03418FkOd9CRMFscqRSQms4PVmR+hQYViGy7ySCZIL b6/eku0g9Pki/ybpgfoyDlM5X1xwUt+EkzxDMydE9VvL4nMCIKA+x/1n+MSpCMHBZBfk zcBIuwdkws2B1EreJyE5izfUmSMxeg0bvOWNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QbUOhbtK7pc/3QBowfrdKkQfnFtrcdzcsqFeopefHTQdXj7hTphEUua7FkHPoZLxet xHj3P4uwWNblEdo7yu13u9E/WOLaIiZtNCnMClmEZVbYKvB1Gs66w/1zr+O58FtXYWnx mQviRctac2Wk3YGomdt4f5/IxKzdRz0glcv8w= Message-ID: <4BB3D354.2080104@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:57:24 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 References: <999017.37045.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <999017.37045.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Ok, with all that buzz regarding the M13, I decided to check the manuals they have online, but still have some questions: any of you users willing to answer them? 1. Architecture: The way I understand it, it's four stompbox-style effects at once, plus a looper and a gate. The four effect engines can do any of the available effects in any combination (e.g. four stereo delays, or four seek wahs or whatever). Correct? 2. Signal routing: There only seems to be a serial configuration through all four blocks (nothing parallel), right? As for the looper: There's this "pre/post" switch - now the User Manual says: "Setting your looper to “PRE” will apply FX to your guitar signal only. In the Setup Menu setting the looper to “POST” will apply FX to your loop recording and your guitar signal." The advanced users guide says: "this switch controls whether your loop will play back pre or post the FX in your current Scene. If toggled Pre (blue), this means your loop will not pass thru the current FX. If toggled Post (green), your loop will play back with your Scene FX applied." So how does that work? Is this effects pre/post looper in the looper's output chain (as the second statement indicates) or in the input chain (as the first one indicates) or something else entirely? Which of the following is possible: a) Input goes through FX, then input+FX goes into looper, looper goes out b) Input goes into looper, looper+input goes through FX c) anything else... I fear having two FX and two after is not possible... 3. Those scenes: I don't get the concept of the scenes. The way I understand it, you have those four FX engines, and then 3 footswitches for each one to select one setting. Is a scene a complete collection of those 12 settings, or one of those 12? 4. Feedback: How did that with looper feedback work again? Adjustable? Thanks, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 22:59:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A0243BE8A; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=5/m5qvgGurrtGoKtuRX0yeeOEaIaoZBej3Go6ZYllY8=; b=oNAzvpiLsOmqcjiXV4h9vJ6ePpW/sx7ZWytyjN6dL7f2W2Y4f/3qsxmA6yQHnAc8fp xiF7Bj3Z5y47Eg/icSYrWpRWyXFUu2S1S+0g1GjfvjmDZedJlLyP0POng/lKIsU80SQa wIH06jjPn20Hk4qbKJhkPDfhvvs6fSty2aGP4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=UPetJudaAGqP4DUf85gGSU6W5D4xzU+hst0dG1k7SXt2dLkyfbvdr1eAbA6PE7Zyao pER1drjz2yhTHRxlFo6eHRHiGYziC7cmXDeM1dzs9255dvL9NWU1r6apD8ytqror1Wgo lvcI+8jon19R0cv+1LgBwzBVDmQ3vLOjZq/vo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4BB3B4E0.8000502@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8825BD7A-CFEF-4E4D-8D76-C92AA47F419A@baymoon.com> <4BB3B4E0.8000502@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 00:59:04 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 55959c623987f169 Message-ID: Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question (another) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e9258593b6048320b264 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:59:31 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7e9258593b6048320b264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im using the Burkey flatliner... http://www.burkey.nl/ does everything.. both polarities 12 v 9 v ac and dc.. plus has a few dying battery sockets... Its very heavy, huge and I kind of wish I still used wall warts to be honest... but I bought it when I was in a floor mood... but soon went back to the rack mood.. it powers a few things in the rack, but not enough to fix all my problems... If I was just effects pedals.. I would heatily reccomend it... On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:47 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > William Walker wrote: > >> Andy, you might check out the Dunlop DC brick, has a lot of inputs, a >> high milli amp rating and can go any where in the world including Norwich!, >> > > :-( unfortunately the Moogerfoogers need a +VE center polarity > > > The Voodoo Labs Versa might also work. >> > > same problem? > any psu available which covers both polarities? > >> Bill >> > > > > thanks...andy > >> >> > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d7e9258593b6048320b264 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im using the Burkey flatliner... http://www.burkey.nl/

does everything.. both polarit= ies 12 v 9 v ac and dc.. plus has a few dying battery sockets...

Its= very heavy, huge and I kind of wish I still used wall warts to be honest..= . but I bought it when I was in a floor mood... but soon went back to the r= ack mood.. it powers a few things in the rack, but not enough to fix all my= problems... If I was just effects pedals.. I would heatily reccomend it...=

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:47 PM, andy butle= r <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


William Walker wrote:
Andy, you might check out the Dunlop DC brick, has a lot of inputs, =A0a hi= gh milli amp rating and can go any where in the world including Norwich!, <= br>

:-( unfortunately the Moogerfoogers need a +VE center polarity


The Voodoo Labs Versa might also work.

same problem?
any psu available which covers both polarities?
Bill



thanks...andy






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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
--0016e6d7e9258593b6048320b264-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 23:36:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D48B3BE86; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=98sBQW/59yUEL0xde9LxdsqbBM0qmt02JFJ+rjLNyro=; b=hxlwyeD27NtSZvw8TW4Szzm4W0bphDWZ/lULWBMA4UjyxZ0hE+WEU3UgsuLXzNlNxu 5KNJiw+w49p95aHs3Ip2OvkK4r3mQTOG/pJhtxqxE+418Fh9WMDyy0/YhfEaGDMsAWfb ODq2Pyyb18Ffkj4a0whhydu1516W1p89T0ooQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=g/IFvnz21DbfnD5V+sTySUq1rlSpTEaA8QKwkdWVz+hz1VPk5YN8R9/slXTM5ogNDW R+c6JkyUVvdze5y8uZhSWtJ+SWTAfG5mvvaPpqcQSTYhgCO8kwej5CIDk3s4/wrsNnCE NmSaB0P7mGmlUEa7qclS1B2XCZ0IZLF9QDSXg= Message-Id: <96A73161-BB9A-47A9-95AA-490236529D20@gmail.com> From: Gmail To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--286398346 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 7E18) Subject: Re: power supply for fx pedals question (another) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 00:36:17 +0100 References: <8825BD7A-CFEF-4E4D-8D76-C92AA47F419A@baymoon.com> <4BB3B4E0.8000502@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <_5An0D.A.nPC.My9sLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:36:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--286398346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can get polarity reversal adaptors from Visual Sound. Just plug your power cable in one end and the other into your pedal. I use a couple. Sim Sent from my iPod On 31 Mar 2010, at 23:59, mark francombe wrote: > Im using the Burkey flatliner... http://www.burkey.nl/ > > does everything.. both polarities 12 v 9 v ac and dc.. plus has a > few dying battery sockets... > > Its very heavy, huge and I kind of wish I still used wall warts to > be honest... but I bought it when I was in a floor mood... but soon > went back to the rack mood.. it powers a few things in the rack, but > not enough to fix all my problems... If I was just effects pedals.. > I would heatily reccomend it... > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:47 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > > William Walker wrote: > Andy, you might check out the Dunlop DC brick, has a lot of inputs, > a high milli amp rating and can go any where in the world including > Norwich!, > > :-( unfortunately the Moogerfoogers need a +VE center polarity > > > The Voodoo Labs Versa might also work. > > same problem? > any psu available which covers both polarities? > Bill > > > > thanks...andy > > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --Apple-Mail-3--286398346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
You can get polarity reversal adaptors from Visual Sound. Just plug your power cable in one end and the other into your pedal. I use a couple. 

Sim

Sent from my iPod

On 31 Mar 2010, at 23:59, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Im using the Burkey flatliner... http://www.burkey.nl/

does everything.. both polarities 12 v 9 v ac and dc.. plus has a few dying battery sockets...

Its very heavy, huge and I kind of wish I still used wall warts to be honest... but I bought it when I was in a floor mood... but soon went back to the rack mood.. it powers a few things in the rack, but not enough to fix all my problems... If I was just effects pedals.. I would heatily reccomend it...

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:47 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


William Walker wrote:
Andy, you might check out the Dunlop DC brick, has a lot of inputs,  a high milli amp rating and can go any where in the world including Norwich!,

:-( unfortunately the Moogerfoogers need a +VE center polarity


The Voodoo Labs Versa might also work.

same problem?
any psu available which covers both polarities?
Bill



thanks...andy






--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
--Apple-Mail-3--286398346-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 31 23:59:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FEE53BE82; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1270079961; bh=rb9Rj/yucktFeOPGKtCBSmwDTP372QcsQ6uISPJAOc8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EyXquMIaACV4ubRbnP685kcpUBtm6DXEn1ifvhF+GcIAzBmN+9jxcd8aS8CNpfGAFcF0++VzC235sDGsOzKqRMfbQuljRI6IHHwND+crHCGy6R3AEsAj8gfCpx/5ryWSUESIHGc757X7kI9sbd0GgiZqctkt4n6MQfaoKsb0l20= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0uFqEZvhhQfb8CxyFGhUhK6Z9DAItyeYJ3qw4d1a2X3yjdalrScJ8FyEtmt5vXoNCxblBrBOLLPz1uWwue8m53w0CuANPNhMe/EpDcjkVpysvxQ7AJalcgAwzQIX+mcrKQ6LnQg2aCrFto2wIxj3H6bh9LlN5kvoL7LGT3kL1xM=; Message-ID: <763875.72971.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: I8wEH14VM1m3eblFb0ONZgOSeb6TSdiBTNMod7U.KZVA3I_ hYUUFos0Z.pyo61Vwgm14flXxG0Fa1f398HJyZ7aKhEK5DAxZNc4AlEKKnok lWddSNOGe9SQPqrxADILEmyCuFz8ef62V70AnA8RbYjpkfmqLGlLUFhlS0Ye ETp_Oha3AwkQNV8sBKJhlngR6nmdUlI_zjpnc52oBzuDGr2Yo7jaR8wKeRcp JNb88OUC87vqZFPjQQj48L9Bs5guIfo0eEExrM64XrvtaUso6tY8iSJbXI_W vrGolm0wpzEHYei904zp_hxBiwktbDsFOODx2DRx_SOJz0lIT3GBVdLRnhi3 9PAiOiIwm6wtw5BRr6vUmTeukaMph X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4BB3D354.2080104@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:59:23 +0000 (UTC) > 1. Architecture: > The way I understand it, it's four stompbox-style effects > at once, plus a looper and a gate. The four effect engines > can do any of the available effects in any combination (e.g. > four stereo delays, or four seek wahs or whatever). > Correct? Correct, think of it as having 75 separate stompboxes, but you can only use up to four at a time. Aside from that limitation, you can order them any way you want. I've even experimented with some downright odd options. > > 2. Signal routing: > There only seems to be a serial configuration through all > four blocks (nothing parallel), right? Correct, you can only run them in series. > > > So how does that work? Is this effects pre/post looper in > the looper's output chain (as the second statement > indicates) or in the input chain (as the first one > indicates) or something else entirely? Which of the > following is possible: > a) Input goes through FX, then input+FX goes into looper, > looper goes out > b) Input goes into looper, looper+input goes through FX > c) anything else... > > I fear having two FX and two after is not possible... you cannot split them up like that, no, but you can set up a scene where you have, say four effects to create your loop, then once you have it the way you want it, set up a separate four effects and switch from pre to post and effect the loop. > > 3. Those scenes: > I don't get the concept of the scenes. The way I understand > it, you have those four FX engines, and then 3 footswitches > for each one to select one setting. Is a scene a complete > collection of those 12 settings, or one of those 12? a "scene" is basically a layout of 12 effects. for instance, pick 12 effects. lay them out how you want to use them, say, a wah then a distortion, followed by a modulation effect then a delay for the top row of buttons. The middle row, repeat with different effects as you would need, say compression, filter, etc. then the bottom row the same way. that would comprise a scene. Imagine having 4 stompboxes, each with three presets, that would best describe it. > > 4. Feedback: > How did that with looper feedback work again? Adjustable? that, I don't know. > > Thanks, > > Rainer > > -- http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > >
Accedi ora per risolvere il problema.
---------- Forwarded message ----------<= br>From: Todd Matthews = <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recomme= ndations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar
To: Kris Hartung = <info@krispenhartung.com&= gt;


I'm using the atm350 to mix with a piezo pickup on my acoustic = bass. The clip doesn't open up that wide so I've had to be creative= in what I attach it to... but the mic sounds good to me. The other pricer = option for an instrument mic that gets high gain before feedback is the DPA= 4099.

-Todd Matthews


On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 = at 2:33 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
Any comments on this?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574748-REG/Audio_Technica_AT= M350CW_ATM350_HI_Intensity_Microphone_with.html#specifications

For live this would be ideal...less feedback.

Kris



--001636c9290b8ec1920481dd8606-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 21:35:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 129CA3BEC4; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0DF87418-8C33-4D19-BF6F-F1E6AA45DB3D@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:35:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:35:36 +0000 (UTC) yes the 4050 comes with a nice shock mount and when the elastic suspension piece wears out they are more than happy to send out a new one as long as you thread it and crimp it yourself which is easy. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 21:48:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C41A93BEB9; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 145870.28636.bm@omp117.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268689702; bh=Zw67Y1VMwNzHFSFdwxlQ1N0EEWcq/HbwAcvBczSziq4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3IdAFTzoiU0xb2NlrJnPOILVjk3a5nnKj1FlqBqFhb7SaPeF+0p14zPkKNwGWxNycBT2CdH5rNB/WZcOl3ItiuEs5c/f7nwuVz1vfZ5eWZvCLoO0xAMqtrnEm77iAVPHRB/2gWIUGzdg3bsbD+3uGEqaje+SKsBvJrPfdnTDDCI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QT5l0Re3MV8KYr2+AMuULsJCjveALlqd0XkkAhHmiNQ5lFx8T+b38QEaZFu9cFCQjosupk5xf9eaPjT8k5UHJs6xqMgfwzIFTDx7x51QDVRQrpHBHrpcRbfLT6j1sc2N11+Dh/3bFLttHcbUotk8L4Alh0/b73KHVnWzJJ9JY80=; Message-ID: <857517.80223.qm@web65616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NgD9F1oVM1mWw6Y0Jknn9VxxTROrjhonBVH3KPzn3XS1RM.Kuz3Pzi1bOKaML5WHDWY3WaL8fZ8TegaMi1Ndy7CMKhVw0S7K0TsCqDF4x7jiTtHCUiNlAKVXk2EFuxt8Iz8w.ZTaM9D3.Wdg2tFPN7GpMOqtUs2otvMsgaa9mP.xNCOP5NyXNrDlKjlIFWaQu3s8NcF3LaUDsy1.SVpCZHvk8t1vET.c2c1.v6eog9PM00.TmPacwqk38YPDi_QglkDRbVEjv_hbWhPPOsrL338WZXbm5AIffILShoURyBzmUdbWtLiT51_6se5FHCHC.uhyaHgZiv9i9ZbhxLrTXhxRSTlwLDLbty4nOeqGSUzIPPMrUcq4fuGxPw.pTPSu_de.PxwD.OmXuOuwxYc- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:48:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1501727236-1268689702=:80223" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:48:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-1501727236-1268689702=:80223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Dpa sounds really natural and is easy to clip on the instrument. Antony Hequet Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Todd Matthews Date: Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar To: Kris Hartung I'm using the atm350 to mix with a piezo pickup on my acoustic bass. The clip doesn't open up that wide so I've had to be creative in what I attach it to... but the mic sounds good to me. The other pricer option for an instrument mic that gets high gain before feedback is the DPA4099. -Todd Matthews On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kris Hartung wrote: Any comments on this? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574748-REG/Audio_Technica_ATM350CW_ATM350_HI_Intensity_Microphone_with.html#specifications For live this would be ideal...less feedback. Kris --0-1501727236-1268689702=:80223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
The Dpa sounds really natural and is easy to clip on the instrument.
Antony Hequet

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: AT4050 - Re: OT: Recommendations for Microphone and Archtop or Acoustic Guitar
To: Kris Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>


I'm using the atm350 to mix with a piezo pickup on my acoustic bass. The clip doesn't open up that wide so I've had to be creative in what I attach it to... but the mic sounds good to me. The other pricer option for an instrument mic that gets high gain before feedback is the DPA4099.

-Todd Matthews


On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
Any comments on this?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574748-REG/Audio_Technica_ATM350CW_ATM350_HI_Intensity_Microphone_with.html#specifications

For live this would be ideal...less feedback.

Kris




--0-1501727236-1268689702=:80223-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 21:52:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24DF43BE98; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-472450854 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Shielding, on further investigation OT Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:52:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:52:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-472450854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > " "maybe it's too obvious to mention, but what seems to be happening is that at normal speed you're recording a signal onto the LP1 which is too high for you to hear, then the Half Speed playback makes it audible. > The buffer amp cures it by filtering out the hf" Yes I have considered this, but the frustrating part is its intermittent. i have encountered this high pitched frequency when batteries have started to die, but it was a constant sound, not something that occurred only when recording at half speed, and the fact that the problem disappeared when i turned off the satellite dish makes me think its a combination of interference possibly, a dying battery, perhaps a combination of electromagnetic and electrostatic, interference.... or perhaps its the demon leprechauns who won't stop singing their high pitched theme song in my head........... Bill --Apple-Mail-1-472450854 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"
"maybe it's too obvious to mention, but what seems to = be happening
is that at normal speed you're recording a signal onto = the LP1 which
is too high for you to hear, then the Half Speed = playback makes it audible.

The buffer amp cures it by = filtering out the hf"

 Yes I have = considered this, but the frustrating part is its intermittent.  i = have encountered this high pitched frequency when batteries have started = to die, but it was a constant sound, not something that occurred only = when recording at half speed, and the fact that the problem disappeared = when i turned off the satellite dish makes me  think its a = combination of interference possibly, a dying battery, perhaps a = combination of electromagnetic and electrostatic, interference.... or = perhaps its the demon leprechauns who won't stop singing their high = pitched theme song in my = head...........
Bill 
= --Apple-Mail-1-472450854-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 15 22:38:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 551B63BEC0; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fROE5l4uvuingJfINiwwEgrAH1TTjqcDJYaQenYpJDo=; b=sqfH669EkDRTyBrhCLh4LItGFAg5GXuSJpBbcVdnOdZVNFHFu5sJTxGFqOf12/V0bF nylH0K8wF1CPbpII7neO8ga2xWFvmKxNM5fVapNHSDeuVwQCZHf5/pvt70FTZ2adhz2c eHo3GIUnXaaia2xaBkqFVh9eiSEvf12fGq32I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=UCKuS0/iPMzLBKhZcobqcty1UCzYniRlEHuCWqtjsxscC/EmN18xHPoAa/gdQWDfBy OSlU1SrZGgHWXTNlk7rpz2hoHNpTH15IVHfNa2uqo7HsesLJeQs/DETogAEuTK8Ft3wJ QdsUqx+Z270zz6y6QXfBzNranXeiXh2dskGeM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <75F7A895782F4965AF962A109A02F240@MAC> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:38:48 +0100 Message-ID: <7a9df3e51003151538x212f9587x3f1201992d194229@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mixer selection - advice? From: Louie Angulo To: rymoore@bigfoot.com Cc: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77fa0684d8e0481de8bb6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:38:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d77fa0684d8e0481de8bb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Ryan, i once tired this yamaha mixer series and i thoguth it was terrible,everything feels cheap including the effects and my acoustic guitar didnt sound too clean through it,so i opted for the soundcraft thoguh is not usb. but check out the macke FX pro series,i have the pro fx 8 and love it they are usb and the fx are top though no compressors. But for the price u just cant beat them! cheers Luis 2010/3/15 Ryan & Kara > > Hello.. Thanks to everyone who previously offered advice on which looper to > pursue. > > With my way of doing things I narrowed it down to a looperlative, echoplex, > repeater or software. I think I will go with software while saving up for > the hardware. > > Which brings me to my next question.. > > I'm considering getting a USB mixer as my front line of attack. > > Has anyone had any expereience with a Yamaha MG166c-usb (or cx-usb)? I > think I like the idea of built in compression and built in sound card. > > I have two concerns though > > 1. I previously (when first getting into home studio stuff a while back) > used an external soundblaster audigy going into cubase vst (and later SX) > which gave me terrible lag (on auio and midi) no matter what I did. > I would up with several midiman (m-audio) sound cards which worked > extremely well because they were PCI. I've never had any good experience > with USB based audio. Can anyone here confirm or supress my fears of great > latency with this gear? > > 2. I'm woried about the sample rate producing low-quality sounds. Again, > any thoughts? > > Thanks a bunch! Oh and if anyone wants to hear the style I produce and > would like to bring to the looping table check out > www.myspace.com/djsamwise the genre is christian/electronic/folkrock. > > Jam on! > -Ryan > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 > --0016e6d77fa0684d8e0481de8bb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ryan,
i once tired this yamaha mixer series and i thoguth it was terrible,ev= erything feels cheap including the effects and my acoustic guitar didnt sou= nd too clean through it,so i opted for the soundcraft thoguh is not usb.
but check out the macke FX pro series,i have the pro fx 8 and love it= =A0they are usb and the fx are top though no compressors.
But for the price u just cant beat them!
cheers
Luis

2010/3/15 Ryan & Kara <= karaandryan2@msn.com>=

Hello.. Thanks to everyone w= ho previously offered advice on which looper to pursue.

With my way = of doing things I narrowed it down to a looperlative, echoplex, repeater or= software. I think I will go with software while saving up for the hardware= .

Which brings me to my next question..

I'm considering gettin= g a USB mixer as my front line of attack.

Has anyone had any experei= ence with a Yamaha MG166c-usb (or cx-usb)? I think I like the idea of built= in compression and built in sound card.

I have two concerns though

1. I previously (when first getting i= nto home studio stuff a while back) used an external soundblaster audigy go= ing into cubase vst (and later SX) which gave me terrible lag (on auio and = midi) no matter what I did.
I would up with several midiman (m-audio) sound cards which worked extremel= y well because they were PCI. I've never had any good experience with U= SB based audio. Can anyone here confirm or supress my fears of great latenc= y with this gear?

2. I'm woried about the sample rate producing low-quality sounds. A= gain, any thoughts?

Thanks a bunch! Oh and if anyone wants to hear t= he style I produce and would like to bring to the looping table check out <= a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/djsamwise" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c= om/djsamwise the genre is christian/electronic/folkrock.

Jam on!
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Now my head really hurts, I tried some more tests to recreate the weird hum= i was experiencing and realized the two instruments that were susceptible = where the two with duncan mag mic active pickups in them, which also brings= up the possibility that an aging 9 volt battery might be also culprit. =A0= Put if that were the case I'd probably here the high pitched whine rega= rdless of whether I was looping or not. The difficulty is that it might be = a number of things happening to cause the problem. One thing I did try the = last time this happened was to put a buffer amp in the signal path which al= so cured the issue. Puzzling .. weird, ghosts in the machine........ And th= en again its probably just the ancient overworked electrical system in our = house................
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DIRECT EMAIL ADDRESS: ahajibello1987@gmail.com TELEPHONE: +234-7065135408 ATTN: BENEFICIARY, DEAR, PAYMENT STOP ORDER FROM OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY: This is to notify you about your outstanding contract payment, Inheritance and lottery wining which was suspended by the Presidency due to some reasons. Although this medium (Internet) has been greatly abused, but I chose to reach you through it because it still remains the global means of communication, which is faster, easy means to reach out and most secured medium of communication. Be informed that this letter is not a Scam mail and I urge you to treat it with the seriousness it deserves.. The stopping instruction from the office of the presidency came to our notice to stop the out going transfer which your contact was among this list. The stopping instruction came as a result of the new Beneficiary and the new bank account, with this new development the Foreign Debt Reconciliation Committee and the Finance Minister has set up a verification Panel on your due contract payment file which has been endorsed and approved for payment awaiting for your final confirmation in view of this sudden changes you have to get back to this office to confirm the new account submitted to Central Bank of Nigeria for this transfer on your behalf. (1) This Office has just received a registered sworn affidavit, to re-route your payment into a new bank account number as stated: VACAP Federal Credit Union, 1700 Robin Hood Road, Richmond, VA 23220. Account number 32501. Beneficiary name Mr. RAINER HESSE. The Amount is US$10.5m USD.(Ten Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars Only) This is the only reason why you have not received your fund. (2) You have to get back to this office with the copy of confirmation letter or power of attorney if you have instructed Mr. RAINER HESSE the right to change and appoint a new Attorney on your behalf thereby asking that they receive cash call remittance on your behalf. (3) It has come to our notice that you are being contacted by unauthorized Individuals in respect to your contract payment but unfortunately this office is not aware of your unofficial dealings and be warned that it is at your own risk if you continue with this contact. The Foreign Debt Reconciliation Committee have to contact you to verify the relationship between you and Mr. RAINER HESSE as he tried to change all your details through the sworn affidavit into a new different bank account details . You are advised to call me or email back upon the receipt of this mail to enable this office know and advice you on how to handle this matter without any hitch. Yours faithfully, Alhaji Usman Bello (Director Foreign Debt Reconciliation Committee), Warning: Failure to adhere to this Mail with the Instructions you will be doing so at your own risk and should not hold this Office or the Federal Government of Nigeria responsible for the non-payment of their Foreign Exchange Payment. --0-1904061146-1268701753=:56100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


FROM DESK OF: ALHAJI USMAN BELLO
DIRECTOR, FOREIGN DEBT RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
DIRECT EMAIL ADDRESS: ahajibello1987@gmail.com

TELEPHONE: +234-7065135408

ATTN: BENEFICIARY,

DEAR,

PAYMENT STOP ORDER FROM OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY:

This is to notify you about your outstanding contract payment, Inheritance and lottery wining which was suspended by the Presidency due to some reasons. Although this medium (Internet) has been greatly abused, but I chose to reach you through it because it still remains the global means of communication, which is faster, easy means to reach out and most secured medium of communication. Be informed that this letter is not a Scam mail and I urge you to treat it with the seriousness it deserves..

The stopping instruction from the office of the presidency came to our notice to stop the out going transfer which your contact was among this list. The stopping instruction came as a result of the new Beneficiary and the new bank account, with this new development the Foreign Debt Reconciliation Committee and the Finance Minister has set up a verification Panel on your due contract payment file which has been endorsed and approved for payment awaiting for your final confirmation in view of this sudden changes you have to get back to this office to confirm the new account submitted to Central Bank of Nigeria for this transfer on your behalf.

(1) This Office has just received a registered sworn affidavit, to re-route your payment into a new bank account number as stated: VACAP Federal Credit Union, 1700 Robin Hood Road, Richmond, VA 23220. Account number 32501. Beneficiary name Mr. RAINER HESSE. The Amount is US$10.5m USD.(Ten Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars Only) This is the only reason why you have not received your fund.

(2) You have to get back to this office with the copy of confirmation letter or power of attorney if you have instructed Mr. RAINER HESSE the right to change and appoint a new Attorney on your behalf thereby asking that they receive cash call remittance on your behalf.

(3) It has come to our notice that you are being contacted by unauthorized Individuals in respect to your contract payment but unfortunately this office is not aware of your unofficial dealings and be warned that it is at your own risk if you continue with this contact.

The Foreign Debt Reconciliation Committee have to contact you to verify the relationship between you and Mr. RAINER HESSE as he tried to change all your details through the sworn affidavit into a new different bank account details . You are advised to call me or email back upon the receipt of this mail to enable this office know and advice you on how to handle this matter without any hitch.

Yours faithfully,
Alhaji Usman Bello (Director Foreign Debt Reconciliation Committee),

Warning: Failure to adhere to this Mail with the Instructions you will be doing so at your own risk and should not hold this Office or the Federal Government of Nigeria responsible for the non-payment of their Foreign Exchange Payment.
--0-1904061146-1268701753=:56100-- From bruceakin54@yahoo.com.hk Tue Mar 16 01:22:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 10888 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:22:32 UTC Received: from mail.i.net.au (mail.i.net.au [203.19.226.35]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECAC3BE7F; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server01.gacaustralia.local [203.45.185.91] by mail.i.net.au with ESMTP (SMTPD-9.23) id A1F91BF4; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:44:25 +1100 Received: from User ([220.244.55.182]) by server01.gacaustralia.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:44:08 +1100 Reply-To: From: "Mr. Bruce Akin" Subject: LETTER!!! Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:43:41 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2010 17:44:09.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D904470:01CAC467] X-IMAIL-SPAM-SPF: (71f902c7000028dd) SPFNone X-IMAIL-SPAM-VALHELO: (71f902c7000028dd) X-Declude-Sender: bruceakin54@yahoo.com.hk [203.45.185.91] X-Spam-Tests-Failed: NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, HELOBOGUS, SPAMHEADERS, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20, WEIGHT30 [32] X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. To: undisclosed-recipients:; Mr. Bruce Akin Reply to bruceakinn@aol.co.uk I wish to seek your assistance for the transfer of US$25M depository made by a foreign investor for an investment program that has remained dormant for years now. I discovered that the account holder died without making a WILL on the depository. This money cannot be approved to a local bank account holder, but can only be approved to a foreigner. If you will stand as next of kin to the fund, it will be shared 50%/50%, As this is a TWO-man business deal transaction. I shall provide you with more details and relevant documents that will help you understand the transaction. I need your assistance and co-operation to this reality as I have done my Home-work and fine tune the best way to create you as the beneficiary of the fund. My position as the branch manager of the bank will be used to advance this deal. I will like you to provide immediately your full Names and Address, Date of Birth, Occupation, Tel & Fax Numbers so that an Attorney will be able to prepare the necessary documents and affidavit which will put you in place as the next of kin. The Attorney will draft and carry out the notarization of the WILL and also obtain the necessary documents and letter of probate/administration in your favor for the claim. I will appreciate your early reply for commencement of business. Contact me for acknowledgment by E-mail and whereby you are not interested; please indicate in your reply so that I can seek for the assistance of someone else. If this proposal is acceptable by you, I expect that you will not take undue advantage of the trust I Will bestow in you. I await your urgent response. Thanks with great regards. Mr. Bruce Akin Reply to bruceakinn@aol.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 02:14:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96A403BE88; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9b72a74a1142cf5d9ac21894e1a98c71.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20100315174050.A306B3C03B@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20100315174050.A306B3C03B@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Have you thought of two LP2 MINI loopers? was: Re: Mixer selection - advice? From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Ryan & Kara" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ryan, you wrote:, "With my way of doing things I narrowed it down to a looperlative, echoplex, repeater or software." Another thing you might consider is buying two of the upcoming Looperlative LP2 MINI loopers ($300 each) as you would have syncable loops, 20 levels of undo feedback control (with an optional expression pedal) excellent fidelity (and better than the RC-50) storage and/or loading of 8 loops on an SD card 1/2 speed 1/4 speed (artifacty as hell, but cool) reverse wonderful and musical slice/replace algorithms (in 1/8, 1/16, 1/12, 1/24, 1/7, 1/9, 1/10 and even 1/64 for glitching replaces retrigger (single sample) retrigger (continuous ---- starts the loop off at the downbeat with every retrigger) retrigger (random - an idea I came up with that allows one to retrigger so that each retrigger takes you to a random different place in the loop to start, wonderful for creating very interesting rhythmic ostinatos which you can then resample with a second LP2 small footprint (each one the size of the green Line 6 DL-4 an no extra bulky foot pedals) super quick set up and takes either Balanced - with XLR - Tip/Ring Sleeve Line plug optional adaptor or Instrument Line inputs so a Mixer is not necessary) and all of this with MIDI SYNC in/out it ends up being at the low end of the solutions you mentioned ($100 more than the RC-50 but with vastly more goodies included) and hundreds less than full on software solutions (if you consider laptop, midi pedals, breakout box and even freeware solutions or pricey and out of print EDPs or Repeaters - both of which I adore and own, btw) With two of them, you also have back up if one of your systems should ever go down (not possible with single units). Hopefully that would never happen but I've seen it a dozens of times in live looping gigs all over the world. yours, Rick > Hello.. Thanks to everyone who previously offered advice on which looper > to pursue. > I think I will go with software while > saving up for the hardware. > > Which brings me to my next question.. > > I'm considering getting a USB mixer as my front line of attack. > > Has anyone had any expereience with a Yamaha MG166c-usb (or cx-usb)? I > think I like the idea of built in compression and built in sound card. > > I have two concerns though > > 1. I previously (when first getting into home studio stuff a while back) > used an external soundblaster audigy going into cubase vst (and later SX) > which gave me terrible lag (on From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 03:19:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 824953BE84; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y52gJ7/e5pA14v/fCOU8U9sWMG8zVUfvEBcajezWGq0=; b=lu3heGHvHKlvgc48d31H0RU+szP3SEeRoOproxZeHe/mL2hLNp34GsNkZN9PSj5x4s 1pz8Wr44tI0dxOQlQLWQ2XyklmvsTbMFlWyrh3n6nKqXeq19+Vewdm3o4S65Jw3QLnoo PExSYDbAD6w4eM/bTgfXob+OikGza9tQOl++4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k38qG1hJs7R/o6dpgn/HPLNHQFLxi+gCBdCeuj/3sxHPp9ycjdCDvxwU/heUtJYz6/ Tw8zBKfLQlPGDWD+R3J+dmF99ios4ziXqgPmnCKrj6zYSlBm4YhTg7FtvpTtdh1fFSu3 48oEYRBGkHUmEChFg/tfaxyL8Z/xYSl0KAwFc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9b72a74a1142cf5d9ac21894e1a98c71.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <20100315174050.A306B3C03B@arsenic.violacea.com> <9b72a74a1142cf5d9ac21894e1a98c71.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:19:30 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Have you thought of two LP2 MINI loopers? was: Re: Mixer selection - advice? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "Ryan & Kara" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:19:31 +0000 (UTC) A great suggestion, but when will see the LP2? No word on the website (and the wife is as excited as me, so pre-order is a reality!)... Details, man, details! Best. Dennis On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:14 PM, wrote: > Hi Ryan, you wrote:, > > "With my way of doing things I narrowed it down to a looperlative, > echoplex, repeater or software." > > Another thing you might consider is buying > two of the upcoming Looperlative LP2 MINI loopers > ($300 each) =A0 as you would have > > syncable loops, =A0 20 levels of undo > feedback control (with an optional expression pedal) > excellent fidelity (and better than the RC-50) > storage and/or loading =A0of 8 loops on an SD card > 1/2 speed > 1/4 speed (artifacty as hell, but cool) > reverse > wonderful and musical slice/replace algorithms > (in 1/8, 1/16, 1/12, 1/24, 1/7, 1/9, 1/10 and > even 1/64 for glitching replaces > retrigger (single sample) > retrigger (continuous ---- =A0 starts the loop off at the downbeat with > every retrigger) > retrigger (random - an idea I came up with that allows one to retrigger s= o > that each retrigger takes you to a random different place in the loop to > start, =A0wonderful for creating very interesting rhythmic ostinatos whic= h > you can then resample with a second LP2 > small footprint (each one the size of the green Line 6 DL-4 an no extra > bulky foot pedals) > super quick set up and takes either Balanced - with XLR - Tip/Ring Sleeve > Line plug > optional adaptor or Instrument Line inputs so > a Mixer is not necessary) > > and all of this with MIDI SYNC in/out > > it ends up being at the low end of the solutions you mentioned ($100 more > than > the RC-50 but with vastly more goodies included) and hundreds less than > full on software solutions (if you consider laptop, midi pedals, breakout > box and even freeware solutions > or pricey and out of print EDPs or Repeaters - both of which I adore and > own, btw) > > With two of them, =A0you also have back up if one of your systems should > ever go down > (not possible with single units). =A0Hopefully that would never happen bu= t > I've seen it a dozens of times in live looping gigs all over the world. > > yours, =A0 Rick > >> Hello.. Thanks to everyone who previously offered advice on which looper >> to pursue. >> > =A0I think I will go with software while >> saving up for the hardware. >> >> Which brings me to my next question.. >> >> I'm considering getting a USB mixer as my front line of attack. >> >> Has anyone had any expereience with a Yamaha MG166c-usb (or cx-usb)? I >> think I like the idea of built in compression and built in sound card. >> >> I have two concerns though >> >> 1. I previously (when first getting into home studio stuff a while back) >> used an external soundblaster audigy going into cubase vst (and later SX= ) >> which gave me terrible lag (on > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 05:14:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0A233BE8A; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1INuOcEUKLZzYos1d+FkCHleFa4Twcvb/ctA5x+qpMs=; b=tJ/8Bx8Z6L6xBlvQYwG2apDvWduERPESQA9PUfk9ZVYKg2cBKoLthIu9sLcX3XoUFf 8DwbcXkmPPp0eQQTUwLGNob6rU0pbdXEirlBEsF2SQEOtebnVn3z+LjdV1RGE2H6P45K 7lRgqG/PA/scDxHlJjNvpC9O49sLqHcl/K7tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Axbp42bpInNTa6yMEJFBt7dMxWx0MbelhTCNd5wH56MbUIw+J7AfIZh5O4xZR/z6Up OEf1/qPWv4ez0+0kVznn1MttMsuJ64KrteJS84Y0k8/v9tJvHZyKnTPps1T7siBo9FHe H2TJ6vBX65mSEqpOCerdI6llsaDAPhlUFVwPU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> <2fb9e4731003151201j2309d461u351fe4667b6909a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:14:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c06320cc8c80481e41111 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:14:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64c06320cc8c80481e41111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --0016e64c06320cc8c80481e41111 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com
--0016e64c06320cc8c80481e41111-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 05:20:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 441093BE87; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2OTSVbtMnI0jyhuO3umm6g)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003150362 In-reply-to: References: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> <2fb9e4731003151201j2309d461u351fe4667b6909a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: From: Toby Graves Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:17:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:20:42 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_2OTSVbtMnI0jyhuO3umm6g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I wonder if unsubscribing could become a trend. t On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --Boundary_(ID_2OTSVbtMnI0jyhuO3umm6g) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I wonder if unsubscribing could become a trend.  

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Dear Friend,
 
It is my pleasure t= o contact you once again after our unsuccessful attempt on our business tra= nsaction. Well, I just want to use this medium to thank you very much for y= our earlier assistance to help me in transferring the funds without any pos= itive out come.
 
I am obliged to inform you that have succeeded= in receiving the funds with the help of a
new partner from Paraguay Mr= . Dennis. J. Paul.
 
 Everything was perfectly done because= we struck a deal with one of the Lady Accountants who works with the Feder= al Ministry of Finance here in Nigeria (FMF), who rendered tremendous help = to us.
 
My new partner initiated this idea and everything work= ed out successfully. In appreciation of your earlier assistance to me in re= ceiving the funds, I have decided to compensate you with the sum of $950,000.00(Nine Hundred and Fifty Thousand United States Dollars) in a Ca= shier's cheque.
 
 This is from my own share. I did this si= mply to show appreciation to you for your kind
support and assistance e= ven though we could not succeed due to negative information which you recei= ved at the time about the transaction. Presently, I am in Paraguay for inve= stment project with my own share under the advice of my partner.
 <= BR> Meanwhile, I didn't forget your past efforts and attempts to assis= t me in transferring this fund despite the fact that we could not succeed. = I will be sending you e-mail from to time to know if you have received your= compensation or not.
 
In the light of the above, you are there= fore to contact my personal assistant on my former telephone line +234-705-= 751-6087 and do send him your phone both contact address where you want the= cheque to be sent to you.
 His name is Rev.S.I.Sylvester, he his E-mail address is (= sun.shines2000@gmail.com).do let me know immediately you receive it so = that we can share the joy together after all the suffering at that time.  In the moment, I am very busy here in Asuncion, the capital city of= Paraguay because of the investment projects, which the new partner and I a= re having at hand.
 
 So feel free to get in touch with him= to send the cheque to You without  any delay.
 
 With= My Best Regards,
 Mr.John Frank  
 
--0-1629309288-1268732615=:58509-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 10:40:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C71743BE88; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pqzQpUWu64Zb7cazgKEjFaK028Lm1nVS4sA4tCwKj78=; b=hgOe327FbSRTfRJaG7gfKoAgjO0odR4viE4gaW+pNId2wWzq6oLMlNtebykGB9gaSC afLxnOdmg3vk4vkPKSK6Ngr1U4uZd5bADeUdSreLkD/yNjIg6S6CeAABmUDfNHM96AJf ZKzsy+PU8ebS039RTjmfU4uiGdHz3UATqfIkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xt+GpQ/t8mT8k/DhZFyu0iwKfV62ldL1YXgRzOF0GBR7vB/1IqoJHjl035DLC4s+UX mLH0WdWNkCMUcByaFS2nIyNvK1n1MGw8VvDXnLeTS0p6Txa0wUExIHn4CZge0L+sjOIE b9zV2r5RkgscEF6aKBvg0gnd0lC8020TGTBNE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002e01cac1ff$c0847d50$c6f03747@tbl01fcf9be917> References: <616a981d1003112345s250ac6f0v233536684a836df6@mail.gmail.com> <002e01cac1ff$c0847d50$c6f03747@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:40:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fa3de1f8c890481e8a1cb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:40:44 +0000 (UTC) --0016367fa3de1f8c890481e8a1cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just a little message to these unsubscribers sendin their mails to the wrong address 2010/3/12 Jeff Duke > where are we going? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Petri Lahtinen > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2010 9:49 AM > *Subject:* Re: unsubscribe > > hey, c'mon!! > > 2010/3/12 Niel van Zyl > >> unsubscribe >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2741 - Release Date: 03/12/10 > 09:42:00 > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0016367fa3de1f8c890481e8a1cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just a little message to these unsubscribers sendin their mails to the wron= g address

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--0016367fa3de1f8c890481e8a1cb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 11:47:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F3F43BE81; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=PfiwlztB/w/r6k7SF9iqCMWEWQoZW3QyfaJAgbNPOOU=; b=MutpU6dYlp3sIZ64mXWxUwPRPQ7Yd7sNQVRgR4EsaD3VWbEzQ6FSBlVQueFNnVGCtr BW7bs/8iuS/pGDXZkbUactb5RBD7s9wBR4SlNfOWmJWE2qC/ODDTiwhxHlG5EQFhzZve inVycxHMp6nCkGWv9gnI6V+w8SxQ/pSJGoG90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lkX6f0QsfifkXjjHcKVhNsDYcFw7aK9ufl4bL3UsR8jIxS9+MefviLy2Vo22DM2yrH XsvAvmEZjQok0hCmNVX1a7JfEtVuNQ+Yc1742wcpsjvAGsuhVnegvUyo4Rl/zmnu9pEe RJCAkMPktz/tOdG0CxYBrOcIUIhsbZxa6Gl8g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:47:14 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003160447m6c8e2b3cr8e31c78e145dc47@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Looperlative LP1 for sale, second hand but unused From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi friends, A friend is selling a Looperlative LP1 in mint fresh condition, have actually never been used. He ordered it for a specific project but the LP1 could not be delivered in time so he hade to start off the project with a different looping solution. When the LP1 finally arrived it was never even unpacked. Price USD 1271 plus shipping from Stockholm, Sweden. Interested may email me privately and I hook you up with the owner. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 12:02:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD7B13BE8B; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OfsCJqy7JDFzA9b424xoevRS3lNcZBjhCJjGxxdbrTI=; b=AbpGysZQPVuJbuZRWsHyiOPy5U1qcgFtYERe9/wa5+sCxZs1NPDfgSSvbbBImkfpF6 /BxIlveTUs9H2GK0/F7o9WPcSrM5HwPlbzW5j7+cOpzDJ1dgklBlwg4f3Zha4biOTyw2 ogsZ12mFzm/dwnvH1RYxa0v6rlM4eDvWhRVa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HdYYJjzb6IyyoLZ6I6iC10FHQirssoEjwAl6DaDaysQpGlpixwgwXVIc5HOzTHEHCS HKHZQhqOkJ3p3RYbFDwLGSldtGlW7POYP7fLgxF2rHa5MVIOmLrjLK7NsiapsnBQFEHi j7EGcNdRulJtXYu3BY6TFt5+mchlFpOMPHhcw= Message-ID: <4B9F7336.9020905@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:01:58 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vst (win) -> vst (osx) References: <588ce11d1003102122m1d1c2474pfdda0729c09432eb@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003110453l8edac33j653686c6d578c700@mail.gmail.com> <226014A5-B2B9-4DB4-971F-6DEE0BB6FE57@btinternet.com> <9ab0c76f1003110603p27d54cd0q1db38873dab95d82@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003110612m343dd97eq4b119bf248695e7f@mail.gmail.com> <899FB8E0-97D2-41DA-B990-B8151A9A8927@btinternet.com> <9ab0c76f1003111201p5d877ca1q173482c0590c8629@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003111201p5d877ca1q173482c0590c8629@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Am 11.03.10 21:01, schrieb mark francombe: > You know it took a reboot.. im sort of getting my plugs in now.. nearly.. a > few missing files need to be put in the right places... my badly programmed > vsts Im afraid.. but then what... how do I get these to show in a DAW, or is > it a "play only" device? I guess you need to feed it with cables. Or through Jack/Soundflower... -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 12:09:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A33713BE8F; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jv8LDyMKSJNI6Yx8RZCo7ahHERoJtezsM0RyUPgiD88=; b=kEpkZgPu8ThwQaPENpUgah9Z/c4C6P85o5fsvTIlITOxs+zLPV60tXKDviTAbNDk1D J69vSULZlxLPRc5LTzpePxTsBlAGR67i7smNUqDZsHMbg0wEFFv89IQpVL2S2AoRs9Dq pK08rcKH1iUXaNGvRsltIBnj0eFluNISf7SnA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QJ40aOfJWURFWpscCSmmh8N/+1/cHFHcWFP8mzC7hS/ZGW2ViEpYrmyIpJKuaNzv4z MHXniuRG5qdL5aat2atQsGznYa0RFnweTkwSWTyQj0UmAeB2b2NjBDxvdRfcPTDY3rAH Ym58sdbXYImsyDZouJtfPiXxz3Tm6jZa+Jho0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:09:54 +0900 Message-ID: <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Robert Lewis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c6d31e55cc0481e9e0d8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:09:56 +0000 (UTC) --00504502c6d31e55cc0481e9e0d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe people are unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they thought it would be. I know that I've been surprised since signing up a few days ago that there hasn't been much discussion about and comparison of actual looper models. Guess that's a pretty newb topic. Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet. -Robert ----- Hi. I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use for live solo shows. I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in the vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of pre-recording. I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it with footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. Currently I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which has become very limited very quickly. Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get these items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting before I have it shipped over. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring wrote: > unsubscribe > > --00504502c6d31e55cc0481e9e0d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but mayb= e people are unsubscribing because this=A0listserv isn't what they thou= ght it would be.
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I know that I've been surprised=A0since signing up a few days ago = that there hasn't been much discussion=A0about=A0and comparison of actu= al looper models. Guess=A0that's a pretty newb topic.
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Also, my=A0question (below) hasn't been answered yet.
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Hi.
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I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal= that I'll use for live solo shows.
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I need something high-en= d that lets me not just simply build on top of short loops, but also allows= me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch between an A part and B part (= verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me= to play entire songs (in the vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada)= alone and with a minimum of pre-recording.
=A0
I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Di= gital Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it = with footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. Curren= tly I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which has become = very limited very quickly.
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Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't g= et these items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getti= ng before I have it shipped over.
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Thanks.
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On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring <kiddopail@hotmail.com> wrote:
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--00504502c6d31e55cc0481e9e0d8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 12:46:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 628B83BE89; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=NWIzqgnQO7lHQ32uabPYr0pYr6Ovoy58LNZXGQgMEjk=; b=BeUTNEgvtJ5j/hfc+LM628eM56Bs2fFB35iZH06znbdnLK6hvF9jfu+cXCcl9hf6WE n4UO2lbe5v80IGwdErBvfeBrzh47vMUhMbUO8URJNK7N4PrRHpnRcRTeoJyIjc8hAZN0 XrIsZc/LVDE839AICqfNKP3NzmFeJHqHi5zTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=NuUzMXbDOv7i24vbIWaQ7OzNRQa9bOm7Ycg3sbPcwJV9KliPF9AgarkfcQggiS7aVR JbPOXFXeyWvnj4vtyfMbYII6wyfrlJKn2zoJpvEkZRQWiHUG6+MR+fNVNQYMGl/CEeVg j/fksSV5LQqrYNl0fKn86gDcoSwJ8EqMYdYv8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:42:45 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 69749f506c9df492 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003160542j215a4822t6eb73ca2ae12f77c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64b18ca45c70481ea56ae Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:46:33 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d64b18ca45c70481ea56ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Robert, Sure, LD takes some getting used to, it been around for years and we like it this way. The conversation goes off on one lots of times, but on the whole theres no flames or aggression here. Its a nice warm fluffy place. We are always ontop of NEW products and dive in to discuss them before they are often released, some of the developers of some tools are on this list, basically the 2 most heavily featured loopers in both flavours Software and Hardware. Mobis being the soft, Looperlative being the hard. Im sure no one is specifically ignoring your mail as a newbie topic, we dont use that language here, we are all newbies, but due to the volume of posts LD generates, sometimes things get missed. I can only speak of the loopers that I use, and can say that the EDP could do the part A and B thing you need, but not the dropping in and out of "parts".. Maybe you should a look at Mobius.. its FREE! But I hear Abelton is nearing that post too, with all the EXTRA features that software boasts... Great taste in music BTW.. I love Boards of Canada (and can boast that when I spoke to one of Sigur Ros, he complimented MY old band as one of their influences) Welcome, hang around and surprisingly soon you will sport a beard and smoke a pipe and be bouncing newcomers on your knee. Mark snippetty snip I know that I've been surprised since signing up a few days ago that there > hasn't been much discussion about and comparison of actual looper models. > Guess that's a pretty newb topic. > > Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet. > > -Robert > > I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of > short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch > between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I > want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in the vein of > Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of > pre-recording. > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d64b18ca45c70481ea56ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Robert,

Sure, LD takes some getting used to, it been around for y= ears and we like it this way. The conversation goes off on one lots of time= s, but on the whole theres no flames or aggression here. Its a nice warm fl= uffy place. We are always ontop of NEW products and dive in to discuss them= before they are often released, some of the developers of some tools are o= n this list, basically the 2 most heavily featured loopers in both flavours= Software and Hardware. Mobis being the soft, Looperlative being the hard.<= br>
Im sure no one is specifically ignoring your mail as a newbie topic, we= dont use that language here, we are all newbies, but due to the volume of = posts LD generates, sometimes things get missed.

I can only speak of= the loopers that I use, and can say that the EDP could do the part A and B= thing you need, but not the dropping in and out of "parts".. May= be you should a look at Mobius.. its FREE! But I hear Abelton is nearing th= at post too, with all the EXTRA features that software boasts...

Great taste in music BTW.. I love Boards of Canada (and can boast that = when I spoke to one of Sigur Ros, he complimented MY old band as one of the= ir influences)

Welcome, hang around and surprisingly soon you will s= port a beard and smoke a pipe and be bouncing newcomers on your knee.

Mark

snippetty snip

I know that I've b= een surprised=A0since signing up a few days ago that there hasn't been = much discussion=A0about=A0and comparison of actual looper models. Guess=A0t= hat's a pretty newb topic.
=A0
Also, my=A0question (below) hasn't been answered yet.
=A0
-Robert
=A0
I need something high-end that lets me not just simp= ly build on top of short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and ou= t, and to switch between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example= ). Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in th= e vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of= pre-recording.
=A0



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--0016e6d64b18ca45c70481ea56ae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 13:08:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEB4F3BE85; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VeeSGK2K+xNr8/GyWEJaY+6XyNq8rMEgGMhyEQNGr/5wh8rPgF1TsMzxxVejuW1+; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> <2fb9e4731003151201j2309d461u351fe4667b6909a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:00:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: unsubscribe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-943377590==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79d66c7db53a794482e9b2c55148cc384d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.125.160 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) --============_-943377590==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" It's tempting. >I wonder if unsubscribing could become a trend. > >t > >On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > >>Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky --============_-943377590==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: unsubscribe
It's tempting.

I wonder if unsubscribing could become a trend.

t
On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com


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--============_-943377590==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 13:08:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CD913BE91; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=S/kZIbjyzXdJR+16Rk3jaDcqwnx7k/whgkL3s4Ppu7KRCPwq8E/dTg1MhfsjFgcH; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:05:04 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-943377589==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79d66c7db53a794482919bd0f3a97f8d30350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.125.160 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) --============_-943377589==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi Robert, there are two websites, one related specifically to this list, and one more generally about looping: http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general and this one: http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html THis mailing list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a neighborhood bar. The future is in the websites. >I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe >people are unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they >thought it would be. > >I know that I've been surprised since signing up a few days ago that >there hasn't been much discussion about and comparison of actual >looper models. Guess that's a pretty newb topic. > >Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet. > >-Robert > >----- >Hi. > >I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use >for live solo shows. > >I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top >of short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to >switch between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). >Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs >(in the vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with >a minimum of pre-recording. > >I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex >Digital Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and >trigger it with footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be >synched together. Currently I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked >on looping but which has become very limited very quickly. > >Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get >these items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm >getting before I have it shipped over. > >Thanks. > > > > >On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring ><kiddopail@hotmail.com> wrote: > >unsubscribe -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky --============_-943377589==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe)
Hi Robert, there are two websites, one related specifically to this list, and one more generally about looping:

http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general

and this one:

http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html

THis mailing list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a neighborhood bar.  The future is in the websites.





I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe people are unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they thought it would be.
 
I know that I've been surprised since signing up a few days ago that there hasn't been much discussion about and comparison of actual looper models. Guess that's a pretty newb topic.
 
Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet.
 
-Robert
 
-----
Hi.
 
I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use for live solo shows.
 
I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in the vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of pre-recording.
 
I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it with footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. Currently I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which has become very limited very quickly.
 
Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get these items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting before I have it shipped over.
 
Thanks.
 


 
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring <kiddopail@hotmail.com> wrote:
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--============_-943377589==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 14:40:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DE2A3BE81; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=1JpXdkJ7WJU+aROog/52/0Y7FpqDifj1b7CBElQncT0=; b=MFwqvyiqej41IB1fDQLjH3Vplk6AeTqV2y0domNn2eVwQKlM0brEqAJwmnIDOhm2R2 dkSXwkDBD+5y0qYtQYW9MbUbMVzf+OVUIX5RhhXBWKu6MiDfEB8IyrUJJx0vWXCgrxDY GGdyZaOYjC+tGWNqgcKNWAr6MAEsbhKLPazCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=fa9WxgF4XLFMOxF/KLC0t00Ki/K7LFESgQ5Qf8DG/EeoZH6p2aMxjDttSFlg5jMC7Q q+eJ5AhT10ABjaa8xXX70Qm5vKkCIaSWIi40v1OH/4o4NeULO11Gqx9VerLGxoM7N/TR YX/QVxVtNutJ/poAygMnI01/KRG6dt4fcQ89k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:39:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 915165426f3a7cc3 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99f6ab09bdb0481ebf95d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:40:17 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99f6ab09bdb0481ebf95d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Hi Robert, there are two websites, one related specifically to this list, > and one more generally about looping: > > THis mailing list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a neighborhood > bar. The future is in the websites. > > > OI! Get outa town you.. you.. you... young whippersnapper.. if this listserv was good enough for my ole 'pappy then its good enough for you! -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d99f6ab09bdb0481ebf95d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> = wrote:
Hi Robert, there are two websites, one related specifically to this list, and one more generally about looping:

THis mailing= list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a neighborhood bar.=A0 The future is in the websites.



OI! Get outa t= own you.. you.. you... young whippersnapper.. if this listserv was good eno= ugh for my ole 'pappy then its good enough for you!=A0

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--0016e6d99f6ab09bdb0481ebf95d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 14:43:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F0143BE8B; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_27adced9-1eac-4fda-bdef-74835ed2c7f5_" X-Originating-IP: [68.191.196.134] From: Greg Gaz To: Subject: RE: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:43:03 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com>, <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com>,,<9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2010 14:43:04.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBFE9B80:01CAC516] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC) --_27adced9-1eac-4fda-bdef-74835ed2c7f5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have always wondered why L.D. doesn't have a forum. =20 -- Greg =20 From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Tue=2C 16 Mar 2010 15:39:53 +0100 Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Tue=2C Mar 16=2C 2010 at 2:05 PM=2C Charles Zwicky wrote: Hi Robert=2C there are two websites=2C one related specifically to this lis= t=2C and one more generally about looping: THis mailing list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a neighborhood b= ar. The future is in the websites. OI! Get outa town you.. you.. you... young whippersnapper.. if this listser= v was good enough for my ole 'pappy then its good enough for you! =20 --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your = inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2= --_27adced9-1eac-4fda-bdef-74835ed2c7f5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have always wondered why L.D. doesn't have a forum.
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THis mailing list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a neighborh= ood bar. =3B The future is in the websites.



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Sign up now. = --_27adced9-1eac-4fda-bdef-74835ed2c7f5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 14:43:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 490533BE92; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 362191466/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.129.216/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.129.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAA42n0tPToHY/2dsb2JhbAAH1XmEeAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,650,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="362191466" Message-ID: <4B9F990A.4080409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:43:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Robert Lewis wrote: > I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe people > are unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they thought it would be. > If someone actually unsubscribes we won't see an email here. Remember when you followed the simple instructions to subscribe, and how there were also similar instructions to unsubscribe? Main cause of complaint is that there's a large number of mails, ...from people who presumably lack the ability to route emails to a folder. > > Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet. Looperlative LP1 or maybe Boomerang III we get a lot of "which looper, I like these bands" questions. andy butler > > -Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 14:44:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C22693BE90; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 365100678/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.129.216/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.129.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApkBAJY1n0tPToHY/2dsb2JhbAAHknLDFIR4BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,650,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="365100678" Message-ID: <4B9F9945.1070308@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:44:21 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <9ab0c76f1003121135i6286f0efs14d3a98cc447e812@mail.gmail.com> <2fb9e4731003151201j2309d461u351fe4667b6909a3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > It's tempting. > ...promises, promises From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 14:47:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82F173BE95; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pt_TSeMuTIkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FVTYlJ0SAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=x8uGJ58GMuLOESbvex4A:9 a=clXY5xu_d6pwkxidrE4A:7 a=yfTNWI0lbse1DPlCfAz1gXafmCUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=JDxZ39lZySAA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:46:57 -0700 References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Robert, Charles, etc., I never thought about it that way . . . "'old boys network' or like a neighborhood bar" . . . but I suppose you're right. I've been on here since '96 and seldom post anything substantial anymore, except to join in on discussions when old friends are present. It's sort of like the neighborhood pub . . . and by implication . . . I'm one of the old geezer semi-regulars (the quiet, moody one in the corner). LOL. I suppose I've been using mostly the same set of gear I've acquired so long ago (mostly) that, after a point, posting with questions or answers is no longer that necessary. I listen in very intently on software discussion (though I do not yet use a computer for live performance) and quietly learn what I can from the sidelines. Most of the really interesting "philosophical" raison d'etre discussions have come and gone many, many times in periodic waves. You have to wait around to catch one . . . or look such things up in the LD archives. I think, from time to time of unsubscribing myself . . . maybe I will. I have almost nearly "retired" from performing at this point. I guess I don't do either totally yet because of that "pub" aspect. I'd miss all of the other "good old boys (and old gals)" too much. Though I don't use it yet, I firmly believe software is the way to go (if you can afford it, have time on your hands and are undaunted by the learning curve). Many of the folks on this list are very experienced at doing exactly what you want to do and have tried it all and done it all for years and years. You just have to get their attention . . . perhaps buy them a pint (to continue the "pub" metaphor) or two . . . to get them into the conversation. That's my advice. I'll stumble off to my smokey booth in the corner now [hic] and think deep moody thoughts to myself [burp]. Cheers, Ted Killian On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:05 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Hi Robert, there are two websites, one related specifically to this > list, and one more generally about looping: > > http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general > > and this one: > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html > > THis mailing list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a > neighborhood bar. The future is in the websites. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 14:55:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23CAF3BE89; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 365105748/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.129.216/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.129.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApkBABo5n0tPToHY/2dsb2JhbAAHknKya5AYhHgE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,650,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="365105748" Message-ID: <4B9F9BDB.1050504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:55:23 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com>, <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com>,,<9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Greg Gaz wrote: > I have always wondered why L.D. doesn't have a forum. http://loopingmusic.proboards.com is *the* place to discuss forum vs list issues. andy (with apologies to Nick ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 15:05:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1998F3BE86; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1268751921; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=3tfO9GQLSNMkfPKAim9v6qXKyaU=; b=c8fka+6bFG1zW9JSkms8frcoV9/H3zj34hKDXdt6bdkQv19j1WvJKMo91/MeMZ/o mWRWVBNiIqbL8KDxNy0HxNrX5muJ5TdkxunZ99jS3boFR4dQ3ZTxcmE9LHLd7PRg; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=lJuksXIQn5OQpY9ak+D81Azdb/89n8AyCtxq0QH+lLo= c=1 sm=0 a=LMS+kvzyW9vSEAiSt0TpFA==:17 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=qyk2pYupAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=tBfddo_Hj2FwOQt8UgwA:9 a=v0yOrGba2xX97ND1Q6IA:7 a=KCGl0eKr0qPldvg7eWK6nvDH688A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=09Yf4OxkFGMA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=xKBaQdRfDkddA3cW174A:9 a=-gAvjhNtqTaDfEpIDqwA:7 a=Xt0DJnO7H3vWLVoG9mT9wjiiGjAA:4 a=d-1ze5jHbJEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LMS+kvzyW9vSEAiSt0TpFA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <007f01cac51a$1745c370$46f43747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:05:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007C_01CAC4F8.8FEEDD10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <0Eoyi.A.PRH.x45nLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:05:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01CAC4F8.8FEEDD10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi Robert, We are not making fun of people because they want to unsub. We are = making fun of them because they can't figure out how to do it. I mean = you get out by following directions at the same place you get in..:) On your question, tough one! So many loopers and all ways have their = points and drawbacks depending on what you are looking for. Try this if you haven't seen it: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php Welcome to Loopers Delight! "You can check out but you can never leave" Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robert Lewis=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:09 AM Subject: Re: unsubscribe I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe people = are unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they thought it would = be. I know that I've been surprised since signing up a few days ago that = there hasn't been much discussion about and comparison of actual looper = models. Guess that's a pretty newb topic.=20 Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet.=20 -Robert ----- Hi. =20 I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use for = live solo shows.=20 =20 I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of = short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch = between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). Basically, = I want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in the vein of = Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of = pre-recording.=20 =20 I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital = Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it with = footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. = Currently I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which = has become very limited very quickly. =20 Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get = these items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting = before I have it shipped over.=20 =20 Thanks. =20 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring = wrote: unsubscribe -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2750 - Release Date: = 03/16/10 07:33:00 ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01CAC4F8.8FEEDD10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi Robert,
 
We are not making fun of people because = they want=20 to unsub. We are making fun of them because they can't figure out how to = do it.=20 I mean you get out by following directions at the same place you get=20 in..:)
 
On your question, tough one! So many = loopers and=20 all ways have their points and drawbacks depending on what you are = looking=20 for.
 
Try this if you haven't seen it: http://www.looproom.com/= looperchart.php
 
Welcome to Loopers Delight! "You can = check out but=20 you can never leave"
 
 
Jeff
 
 
http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/<= BR>http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke<= BR>http://livestream.com/jeffduk= elive
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Robert=20 Lewis
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 = 8:09=20 AM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe

I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe = people=20 are unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they thought = it would=20 be.
 
I know that I've been surprised since signing up a few days = ago that=20 there hasn't been much discussion about and comparison of = actual=20 looper models. Guess that's a pretty newb topic.
 
Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet.
 
-Robert
 
-----
Hi.
 
I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping = pedal=20 that I'll use for live solo shows.
 
I need something = high-end=20 that lets me not just simply build on top of short loops, but also = allows me=20 to drop tracks in and out, and to switch between an A part and B part = (verse=20 to chorus, for example). Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me = to play=20 entire songs (in the vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) = alone and=20 with a minimum of pre-recording.
 
I'm currently looking = at a few=20 things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital Pro, Abelton software (I'd = bring a=20 laptop onstage and trigger it with footpedals), or a combo of pedals = that can=20 be synched together. Currently I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked = on=20 looping but which has become very limited very = quickly.
 
Any=20 recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get these = items=20 here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting before I = have it=20 shipped over.
 
Thanks.
 


 
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring = <kiddopail@hotmail.com> wrote:
unsubscribe



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------=_NextPart_000_007C_01CAC4F8.8FEEDD10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 15:24:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72DA43BE84; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ivNEi9ZwnjXpSGRezxcGNLSNY6JyQ6OfUrnL0YPrSj4=; b=IxcIVbayXVb35ibOz0QXUdOmwvWo12MDtG5GOk4aMFVVeYCEZrVamU3OXpU1koGnhZ py/mS/Pq6h77CLwVHBKcYfXWhUY+hT+c8mZMmmJ07RIsmRghUVV2ZOg8fn/6Hy+evl1q 334wtagPHzmr3CQbTt6ZuQDYcu5wSxQu9W/5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NUF4W1I5T5tskKyA7VBTw8g+ddI7C9UmC2hchNGMLk9zQw9TDSTiq9MpqxUWmw6t8t 868jvLsCZz2bQzx+hxL8wW19nr/USHz/yscWCOvEU4+M4lL7XBOFUMM8EU3jlOyd1fze l8Lj0f7bqFIIsQujx5/szAXN0/vcx3jgka+E8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <007f01cac51a$1745c370$46f43747@tbl01fcf9be917> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <007f01cac51a$1745c370$46f43747@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64b974cea8f900481ec9375 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:24:40 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64b974cea8f900481ec9375 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd definitely check out Mobius. I don't have any of the 'high end' loopers (Looperlative, EDP, etc) but I've got the DL4, DD20, & RC20xl. I can make a hell of a lot of loopy noise with them. :) In general, the looper comparison discussions only come up when new people join, So, search the archives for LOTS of discussions. At this point in time, asking which looper is best for you is kinda like asking which guitar is best. You need to try them out. Search the archives, do a little feature comparison, and please, feel free to ask questions here. You are more likely to get answers to specific questions (like "Can I do 'X' with looper "Y') than "what should I buy?" Welcome to the list, Tony > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Robert Lewis > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:09 AM > *Subject:* Re: unsubscribe > > I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe people are > unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they thought it would be. > > I know that I've been surprised since signing up a few days ago that there > hasn't been much discussion about and comparison of actual looper models. > Guess that's a pretty newb topic. > > Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet. > > -Robert > > ----- > Hi. > > I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use for live > solo shows. > > I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of > short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch > between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I > want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in the vein of > Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of > pre-recording. > > I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital Pro, > Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it with > footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. Currently I > own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which has become very > limited very quickly. > > Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get these > items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting before I > have it shipped over. > > Thanks. > > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring wrote: > >> unsubscribe >> >> > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2750 - Release Date: 03/16/10 > 07:33:00 > > --0016e64b974cea8f900481ec9375 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd definitely check out Mobius.=A0 I don= 9;t have any of the 'high end' loopers (Looperlative, EDP, etc) but= I've got the DL4, DD20, & RC20xl.=A0 I can make a hell of a lot of= loopy noise with them. :)

In general, the looper comparison discussions only come up when new peo= ple join, So, search the archives for LOTS of discussions.

At this = point in time, asking which looper is best for you is kinda like asking whi= ch guitar is best.=A0 You need to try them out.=A0 Search the archives, do = a little feature comparison, and please, feel free to ask questions here.= =A0 You are more likely to get answers to specific questions (like "Ca= n I do 'X' with looper "Y') than "what should I buy?&= quot;=A0

Welcome to the list,

Tony



----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Robert=20 Lewis
= Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:09=20 AM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe

I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but ma= ybe people=20 are unsubscribing because this=A0listserv isn't what they thought it = would=20 be.
=A0
I know that I've been surprised=A0since signing up a few days ag= o that=20 there hasn't been much discussion=A0about=A0and comparison of actual= =20 looper models. Guess=A0that's a pretty newb topic.
=A0
Also, my=A0question (below) hasn't been answered yet.
=A0
-Robert
=A0
-----
Hi.
=A0
I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping ped= al=20 that I'll use for live solo shows.
=A0
I need something high-e= nd=20 that lets me not just simply build on top of short loops, but also allows= me=20 to drop tracks in and out, and to switch between an A part and B part (ve= rse=20 to chorus, for example). Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me to = play=20 entire songs (in the vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone = and=20 with a minimum of pre-recording.
=A0
I'm currently looking at = a few=20 things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital Pro, Abelton software (I'd bri= ng a=20 laptop onstage and trigger it with footpedals), or a combo of pedals that= can=20 be synched together. Currently I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on= =20 looping but which has become very limited very quickly.
=A0
Any=20 recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get these = items=20 here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting before I h= ave it=20 shipped over.
=A0
Thanks.
=A0


=A0
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring = <kiddopail@hotmail.com> wrote:
unsubscribe



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--0016e64b974cea8f900481ec9375-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 16:04:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B448F3BE8A; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7OD27mUVv16GXjIMMdCStc/SitmSqoon8L3jeqjQOk0=; b=hZYV1ZjdgG/ibfszooYChc4olt98UoW4uCVwmJzMWL4ar6dOtrOpiNCADKVkv6SYd0 45xGlQMPo+P8hmJ9ygvkeqPCTN/e87qloFmgujGEW1DoHG2iymCSe/lKP9mnIG1PVd4u Tjb71E4ujNDUIVJdJv8tckoqZENfTr+e9q7nk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xXScj2JrsmsleRCN/lESUQYuDXMBNXiKd04hp6joA3FuZdfYOO0Uo649X0UVmOAB9R 7TpALKGtex9gKhxR7sHUWxm34nCtYT6aV3f9JgzrRvV4TZeZzOPskQuHI4oBuKzBB7+v O1n3odRPP7RPuqtXt7HmOGSEVxwLo/7HeDdDc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <007f01cac51a$1745c370$46f43747@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:04:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325559a92dc01680481ed2777 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:04:46 +0000 (UTC) --000325559a92dc01680481ed2777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/3/16 Tony K > At this point in time, asking which looper is best for you is kinda like > asking which guitar is best. You need to try them out. > And you need to know what do you want to get out from your looper. Look at the comparison chart and study which features are the best for you. Or you can start with a free software (mobius or sooperlooper) to get more deep knowledge about looping. Bith those software are outstanding and are based on the EDP (the Rolls-Royce in the looping gear) > Welcome to the list, > Oh yes...Welcome on board and have fun, this is a very friendly and helping list...guaranteed ! fabio www.eterogeneo.com ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Robert Lewis >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:09 AM >> *Subject:* Re: unsubscribe >> >> I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe people are >> unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they thought it would be. >> >> I know that I've been surprised since signing up a few days ago that there >> hasn't been much discussion about and comparison of actual looper models. >> Guess that's a pretty newb topic. >> >> Also, my question (below) hasn't been answered yet. >> >> -Robert >> >> ----- >> Hi. >> >> I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use for >> live solo shows. >> >> I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of >> short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch >> between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I >> want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in the vein of >> Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of >> pre-recording. >> >> I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital Pro, >> Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it with >> footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. Currently I >> own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which has become very >> limited very quickly. >> >> Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get these >> items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting before I >> have it shipped over. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring wrote: >> >>> unsubscribe >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2750 - Release Date: 03/16/10 >> 07:33:00 >> >> > > --000325559a92dc01680481ed2777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2010/3/16 Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>
At this point in time, asking which looper is be= st for you is kinda like asking which guitar is best.=A0 You need to try th= em out.=A0
=A0
And you need to know what do you want to get out from your looper.
Look at the comparison chart=A0and study which features are the best f= or you.
Or you can start with a free software (mobius or sooperlooper) to get = more deep knowledge about looping. Bith those software are outstanding and = are based on the EDP (the Rolls-Royce in the looping gear)
=A0
Welcome to the list,
=A0
Oh yes...Welcome on board and have fun, this is a very friendly and he= lping list...guaranteed !
=A0
fabio
=A0
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:09 A= M
Subject: Re: unsubscribe

I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but mayb= e people are unsubscribing because this=A0listserv isn't what they thou= ght it would be.
=A0
I know that I've been surprised=A0since signing up a few days ago = that there hasn't been much discussion=A0about=A0and comparison of actu= al looper models. Guess=A0that's a pretty newb topic.
=A0
Also, my=A0question (below) hasn't been answered yet.
=A0
-Robert
=A0
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Hi.
=A0
I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal= that I'll use for live solo shows.
=A0
I need something high-en= d that lets me not just simply build on top of short loops, but also allows= me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch between an A part and B part (= verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me= to play entire songs (in the vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada)= alone and with a minimum of pre-recording.
=A0
I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Di= gital Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it = with footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. Curren= tly I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which has become = very limited very quickly.
=A0
Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't g= et these items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getti= ng before I have it shipped over.
=A0
Thanks.
=A0


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On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Doring <kiddopail@hotmail.com> wrote:
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--000325559a92dc01680481ed2777-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 16:10:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81A273BE8E; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=KGXvJ/eSpMT1sTMxAGxp9ZEc+QFUiqfe2UfESAxUAqI=; b=uaKywenpE2Tp/g4Qgypklu4w+4q/PGc5ClA4DylqZvQWj/agHHUWwWuNd8FcEb3GZc iGPkT13MvpNYDH+n76M5kfQ/1qUbQngzBpBLsSuB+vE1qencbChUtBMtlggLi0zLP0fQ c5qpc8FSt089tnLjWP5kfYKRDIB8KjZDeIYDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tQ0riwQ+cVzKaTF3UPNvJ6slYn55/KSKQvwka4kdplA4gMZey2fioO44rcG+Byh9gq s25ESM25vos6WkPjuN6/raP0NbUZU0uCu6yEgtDQnmbcqDws1ch1WKCrG8YU83flg6rK 84/Grwg9f9cmdy5Ovs0+hX1Dsn+Ex5xYegtYQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:10:21 -0400 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b1003160910xf477c78i1de988c55f9b4a86@mail.gmail.com> Subject: re: list of loopers..was..unsubscribe From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Robert, there's prob others telling you the same right now as I'm in the digest and sometimes behind. But, you might find this useful, it's brought to you by some of the peeps who have been here on the list for quite some time: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php Hope this helps! loaf. Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:09:54 +0900 From: Robert Lewis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Message-ID: <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c6d31e55cc0481e9e0d8 --00504502c6d31e55cc0481e9e0d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about this group, but maybe people are unsubscribing because this listserv isn't what they thought it would be. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 17:44:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B7A23BE82; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WVpcjmGCMSe3+DKmNpgAuYFJdW6zyUDCUf3zSKBDItM5+n5G190iLbpAkoffGpYi; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:11:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-943361030==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7942ee586a74380774365e3001ffdaae59350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.125.160 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:44:27 +0000 (UTC) --============_-943361030==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....? >On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Charles Zwicky ><cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Hi Robert, there are two websites, one related specifically to this >list, and one more generally about looping: > >THis mailing list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a >neighborhood bar. The future is in the websites. > > > >OI! Get outa town you.. you.. you... young whippersnapper.. if this >listserv was good enough for my ole 'pappy then its good enough for >you! > > >-- >www.markfrancombe.com >www.ordoabkhao.com >http://vimeo.com/user825094 >http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky --============_-943361030==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscri
I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....?

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi Robert, there are two websites, one related specifically to this list, and one more generally about looping:

THis mailing list is sort of an 'old boys network' or like a neighborhood bar.  The future is in the websites.



OI! Get outa town you.. you.. you... young whippersnapper.. if this listserv was good enough for my ole 'pappy then its good enough for you! 

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http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch


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--============_-943361030==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 17:45:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CFB93BE7E; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=LUsdZDpkUbZ337ywzDiFRJTwUjeja8LT78+9likCbMI=; b=Ivny84hqJbYXrzV8JeMkMbMio14KI5O49kdj92ZvJyniB8cWuxaoWBRnwekD+ndvAo srQ3A9IfTGBYU2C+3PAOW05a3GCXTYnYQJfZc6uy37sFkGuKmPUgWS3jH/X0huDog0ad gMjPskspUZIRdeeFPJPJ+mcY4Ox5wc7rjwm70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qbNIxqKXUxZk0WEl3WlxbGMvI/Nmlsm1J5p614G6SWF0tnURmO/Jq+jcGI7C+cAcKe nXCLpqbpDINSygRqfHR7/BcSxpr8jlEd6XYHOOdcN6udrD8w3hXOyBaLCesUJN9saskF p6npraO1SqxIb2aLIbTV6zDEuxoBOXcQqqQSw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:45:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: VST's on mac From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab4b6b4c91c0481ee9041 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:45:41 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab4b6b4c91c0481ee9041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There was a recent thread on a software that could run VST's on Mac... I have lost the thread, software's name and the advice someone gave... that software wasnt easiest to install/get working? my little brother is struggling with it. He's running Ableton Live 7 on snow leopard Mac. Any pointers where I could find the thread...?? -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0016e6dab4b6b4c91c0481ee9041 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There was a recent thread on a software that could run VST's on Mac...<= br>I have lost the thread, software's name and the advice someone gave.= ..
that software wasnt easiest to install/get working?
my little brot= her is struggling with it.
He's running Ableton Live 7 on snow leopard Mac.

Any pointers wh= ere I could find the thread...??

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First of all, looking at the comparison chart already mentioned is always a good starting point. Second identify what you need and find a way to describe it without any risk for misunderstandings. As an example, you said "...allows me to drop tracks in and out...": This could be a) undo/redo with a buffer several steps deep (which allows you to remove overdubs one by one and then bring them back, but only in the sequence they were recorded in, and not add something in between), or b) multiple tracks. "switch between A and B part": if you're looking for multiple tracks, would that affect all tracks at one or be selective for each track? And so on... And there's also the topic of feedback control (a whole topic in itself). From what you're describing, it seems that form factor is not an issue for you: you're happy with floor pedals, rack gear and computer software all the like, so here's the recommendation: If you're playing songs exclusively, and songs where you can set (by tapping) the tempo in advance, Ableton Live (without the looper plugin) would be a simple choice. Möbius (also mentioned by others) has a somewhat steep learing curve just after the initial steps, mostly due to the EDPs concept which is VERY deep and efficient but at times not simple out-of-the-box. Both allow for track-selective A/B switching and multiple tracks. With Ableton Live (again: without the looper plugin), there's no (easy) way to overdub on the same track, so no undo/redo (for the overdubs). Don't know about the Boss, but I don't like them...(very subjective and personal). The EDP is, as someone said, the Rolls Royce of looping - I'd rather say it's the Porsche 911 of looping. It has great similarities to Möbius, but doesn't offer stereo/multitrack/scripting/configurable UI, but then again, you don't need a computer for it. Still, I personally would not recommend it for your application, as multiple (separately controllable) tracks might be of great use to you. If you're open to using a computer and don't mind getting swallowed up in an all-powerful looping solution, Möbius is the suggestion you get from me. And yes, we're a gentlemens' club/neighborhood bar, and we like it that way. Perhaps you would've gotten a quicker response on almost any gear forum, but you won't get a better response - anywhere else in the world. Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 17:53:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6B0F3BE8C; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 362300642/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.129.216/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.129.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApkBAJZin0tPToHY/2dsb2JhbAAHknSyVZAchHgE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,651,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="362300642" Message-ID: <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:53:37 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > I should know ... 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--Apple-Mail-25-544479454-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 19:46:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E4FD3BE85; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=DW/9T/9zzny7S4KWfqp0TfQc98DkTRTGYB6ot1DbsKHEPGor+dqs9Zua/s5aOWfJ; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:32:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a3133054e83cbbdc43f1c36a624192de350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.125.160 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:46:09 +0000 (UTC) >Andy Butler wrote: > >your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 Trolling Andy? I'd like to point out that you're also wrong about that.. ... My rig was detailed on the site in 1998. http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/199803/msg00021.html >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....? >> > >your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 19:55:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 367023BE8A; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=CClxGtjuf13jLo9Pi2moZNe/0VLHVbRoMaXRPifb3tc=; b=IP3sv3x8rzXyJxcP0OP9O6PRMfthVLlCDC8L+yEnj2a2NpWFnhKNWANn7hhJ/XZKLy UkoHCsRwNj8cbXTSNEAxAJfcvAfxz1KP+lRYz+TTDvFZtTzkBRCLF/11+dRN7SAhYJ4b ELuD3asrmYoAdspfQ2W5/5zASa7ApjEQhrIwA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=kqNLwToNy7aF8h1OFYvEGiBNnTB6dAXqWHaFFkyMGKsH3VGh+ht/yemeMP7vsXZb4G 0QKBOzinnwn/xXcYfkY/T+MiNFwRCcv8q+qLK3M2l6NKumI1EIUEGAZDX2CV3GKRcehi azc0P1pZtzHHn3Ez+N8sPB77PgarER5XN0CvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:50:36 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0daa4940064c0d5d Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003161250h20dd01ddn8c96f55cfe5526c8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fa6a266a3c40481f05d74 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:55:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016367fa6a266a3c40481f05d74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 HEH HEH BUSTED! Careful what you say when you are surrounded by nerds, who like nothing better than to "check the archives".. eh Andy? On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:53 PM, andy butler wrote: > Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....? >> >> > your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016367fa6a266a3c40481f05d74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HEH HEH BUSTED!

Careful what you say when you are surrounded by nerd= s, who like nothing better than to "check the archives".. eh Andy= ?

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:53 PM, andy b= utler <akbut= ler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Charles Zwicky wrote:
I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....?


your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007




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--0016367fa6a266a3c40481f05d74-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 20:03:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12B903BE85; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=dMULNCwEbpsWOPstQgc+5q6JGeXQ5s5MZFD9ySe3AVA=; b=uajUSxeoJ4L8hszuvbg4X25Kd7Z7I3duoQaJ9xr+znz76niwI97D341VRxMX94JNgW ENLriaqRK7wbHOUR0vD6cO5yOEM+UwAeOl4WeoDjDiduk/jtkDhuTT9ybrMIaRYvNvv7 JSB2FuRvIeO5WmN5IAPKriePbPeoRtgk4TzP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=bbD+3JGnW6nz7N0FbNZdApaZHhmXtspWPcEBE6rqt5B0+DhCvuRYPdJxsLtGDCL9Yd elA62WNZFZOMmMG7ulPeX+rrRZma0BSbrRea533iEWK7ecnx/WDv2T7yGubzOBrVo7K9 9MQvlcpBxwoI5N/ViOYH5O6NPaOslvFdlciPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:01:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b70b13d6d8b41ca6 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003161301y7212af96v3afff05d1cbaff0c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77e125e6bb50481f07946 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:03:42 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d77e125e6bb50481f07946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 WOW.. And what an awesome rig it was!!! I dont suppose you still use that do you? MArk On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Andy Butler wrote: >> >> your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 >> > > Trolling Andy? > > I'd like to point out that you're also wrong about that.. > > ... My rig was detailed on the site in 1998. > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/199803/msg00021.html > > > Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >>> I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....? >>> >>> >> your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 >> > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d77e125e6bb50481f07946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW.. And what an awesome rig it was!!! I dont suppose you still use that d= o you?

MArk

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 a= t 7:32 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Andy =A0Butler wrote:

your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007

Trolling Andy?

I'd like to point out that you're also wrong about that..

... =A0My rig was detailed on the site in 1998.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/199803/msg00021.h= tml


Charles Zwicky wrote:
I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....?


your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007





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--0016e6d77e125e6bb50481f07946-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 20:14:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 402C73BE85; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 364810977/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.129.216/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.129.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApkBAPmCn0tPToHY/2dsb2JhbAAHknOyc5AahHgE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,651,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="364810977" Message-ID: <4B9FE6AB.5060900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:14:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: >> Andy Butler wrote: >> >> your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 > > Trolling Andy? misunderstanding... ...your first of very many posts insisting that LD should be a forum. a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 20:14:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D49223BE8C; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B9FE6A8.4000708@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:14:32 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Robert Lewis' Quest for Looping References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <13676443.1268741807831.JavaMail.root@n19> In-Reply-To: <13676443.1268741807831.JavaMail.root@n19> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Robert Lewis wrote: > I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use for > live solo shows. > > I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of > short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to > switch between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). > Basically, I want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in > the vein of Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a > minimum of pre-recording. > > I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital > Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it with > footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. > Currently I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which > has become very limited very quickly. > > Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get > these items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting > before I have it shipped over. Hi Robert, For live looping, I'm afraid that I'm low tech/old school style with an Akai Headrush (the oldest model). I know that's not what you want but I just put that out there as a point of reference. I also have Ableton Live. For now, I'm learning how to make my own MIDI clips (loops). I suppose I should also learn how to make my own audio clips, too, although it seems straight forward enough. This is good for using prepared material for triggering. Live is great at mapping MIDI messages to button presses in Live so triggering clips from a keyboard is child's play. Some day, I'd like to be able to do looping with Live in real time, both audio and MIDI. Unfortunately, I have been rather slow at wrapping my head around Live's features. I have an RFC-1 (MIDI Mitigator) as a footpedal which I'd have to relearn since I haven't used in years. My understanding is that it can send any kind of message required. My big problem is that I've watched the Kid Beyond video and he mentioned MIDI Translator, a program for Windows that translates MIDI events into sequences of qwerty keyboard strokes. I haven't been able to find it and am hoping it isn't required for live looping. While my laptop is running Windows XP, I can see that I will some day get a Macbook Pro and don't want whatever I develop to fall apart by a change in OS. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 20:49:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA2E23BE89; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 362391559/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.129.216/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.129.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAJqLn0tPToHY/2dsb2JhbAAH1kqEdgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,652,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="362391559" Message-ID: <4B9FEEC8.3080204@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:49:12 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Robert Lewis' Quest for Looping References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <13676443.1268741807831.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B9FE6A8.4000708@soundscapes.us> In-Reply-To: <4B9FE6A8.4000708@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <35Y08D.A.UDG.86-nLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Bill Fox wrote: > My big > problem is that I've watched the Kid Beyond video and he mentioned MIDI > Translator, a program for Windows that translates MIDI events into > sequences of qwerty keyboard strokes. I haven't been able to find it > and am hoping it isn't required for live looping. afaik KB uses Midi Translator simply because his foot controller isn't sophisticated enough. Incidently, KB uses a Mac. Hope the Ableton guru's here can sort you out. (it is rather a fiddle to route midi within Ableton, but not actually hard with Per around) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 21:07:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D27EC3BE86; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0abGwnMMVob20bBYRJ3qsbCdUcGh90k5GJsZleCnkJI=; b=QEsyP9WL1ue+JQZP5OhClx6NJJB2RGduwxcmxFJS/0yfhDCmyPzwEczUjsCChjQziA I508d7NbCeNuszGu74R68f2Y0kHf/cJYkXH5M33pkJ62NVTq0cZTPKL6ttSVjeYBPgM5 EEADHJW0icXB3F0UmYOL+uG8CyTmXCqmHtBO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X4xejwcFn4t1fNcCxR+R9u7e8NFObfWzrs3DC5hJlJBHf0KyosVRMVVCHYl08X4Ay8 sHaULMQ9odcPyik3/YmFMELDduv71GLdv3H2YeUSd0Q59e77mhEp0oQoylsboVuthHGa vktXrPXwaeRYBS1OUurdQcm69PEiPVVd/+ygw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B9FE6A8.4000708@soundscapes.us> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <13676443.1268741807831.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B9FE6A8.4000708@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:02:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Robert Lewis' Quest for Looping From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e3f7a850f40481f14fc0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:07:11 +0000 (UTC) --00504502e3f7a850f40481f14fc0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bome is the Windows version of Midi Translator. http://www.bome.com/products/miditranslator On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > Robert Lewis wrote: > >> I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use for >> live solo shows. >> I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of >> short loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch >> between an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I >> want a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in the vein of >> Radiohead/Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of >> pre-recording. >> I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digital >> Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it with >> footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. Currently I >> own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which has become very >> limited very quickly. >> Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get these >> items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting before I >> have it shipped over. >> > Hi Robert, > > For live looping, I'm afraid that I'm low tech/old school style with an > Akai Headrush (the oldest model). I know that's not what you want but I > just put that out there as a point of reference. > > I also have Ableton Live. For now, I'm learning how to make my own MIDI > clips (loops). I suppose I should also learn how to make my own audio > clips, too, although it seems straight forward enough. This is good for > using prepared material for triggering. Live is great at mapping MIDI > messages to button presses in Live so triggering clips from a keyboard is > child's play. > > Some day, I'd like to be able to do looping with Live in real time, both > audio and MIDI. Unfortunately, I have been rather slow at wrapping my head > around Live's features. I have an RFC-1 (MIDI Mitigator) as a footpedal > which I'd have to relearn since I haven't used in years. My understanding > is that it can send any kind of message required. My big problem is that > I've watched the Kid Beyond video and he mentioned MIDI Translator, a > program for Windows that translates MIDI events into sequences of qwerty > keyboard strokes. I haven't been able to find it and am hoping it isn't > required for live looping. While my laptop is running Windows XP, I can see > that I will some day get a Macbook Pro and don't want whatever I develop to > fall apart by a change in OS. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --00504502e3f7a850f40481f14fc0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bome is the Windows version of Midi Translator.

http://www.bome.com/products/miditransl= ator

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM,= Bill Fox <= billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
Robert Lewis wrot= e:
I'm looking for a recommendation for a looping pedal that I'll use = for live solo shows.
=A0I need something high-end that lets me not just simply build on top of s= hort loops, but also allows me to drop tracks in and out, and to switch bet= ween an A part and B part (verse to chorus, for example). Basically, I want= a pedal that will allow me to play entire songs (in the vein of Radiohead/= Sigur Ros/Boards of Canada) alone and with a minimum of pre-recording.
=A0I'm currently looking at a few things: a Boss RC-50, Echoplex Digita= l Pro, Abelton software (I'd bring a laptop onstage and trigger it with= footpedals), or a combo of pedals that can be synched together. Currently = I own a Line DL-4, which got me hooked on looping but which has become very= limited very quickly.
=A0Any recommendations what would work best for my needs? I can't get t= hese items here in Korea, so I need to be sure about what I'm getting b= efore I have it shipped over.
Hi Robert,

For live looping, I'm afraid that I'm low tech/old school style wit= h an Akai Headrush (the oldest model). =A0I know that's not what you wa= nt but I just put that out there as a point of reference.

I also have Ableton Live. =A0For now, I'm learning how to make my own M= IDI clips (loops). =A0I suppose I should also learn how to make my own audi= o clips, too, although it seems straight forward enough. =A0This is good fo= r using prepared material for triggering. =A0Live is great at mapping MIDI = messages to button presses in Live so triggering clips from a keyboard is c= hild's play.

Some day, I'd like to be able to do looping with Live in real time, bot= h audio and MIDI. =A0Unfortunately, I have been rather slow at wrapping my = head around Live's features. =A0I have an RFC-1 (MIDI Mitigator) as a f= ootpedal which I'd have to relearn since I haven't used in years. = =A0My understanding is that it can send any kind of message required. =A0My= big problem is that I've watched the Kid Beyond video and he mentioned= MIDI Translator, a program for Windows that translates MIDI events into se= quences of qwerty keyboard strokes. =A0I haven't been able to find it a= nd am hoping it isn't required for live looping. =A0While my laptop is = running Windows XP, I can see that I will some day get a Macbook Pro and do= n't want whatever I develop to fall apart by a change in OS.

Cheers,

Bill




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--00504502e3f7a850f40481f14fc0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 21:53:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5597F3BE85; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DXcwGkg57rhR86L4Im9puVnIOy1qCs7XYB1Qybzet+A=; b=Cgtsf17P6Noirdm0ErC1pPi9aRSXpRBTq5GmYk8hSZlYOuhCPtJ7h7I3g6pqMGj35w vnBQA3xMoeqTpm1TEFQJKi28fprYO4Ub93SeZ/19eMqRjPlosRnxH6XfJ8S0LQHl+oEm 5Kwdv14d9muJ725lntFbPwVHal64naf++BIuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TOmyAtarTCT0nmUQ/QWi2V63erjPD7wZbri5nd85kQHfRsfIcXWefMlEa8DpZxn6jz eXLEFvf58GHQTjoWviellsXZ/RnX3ox6qlt2oCqd7ua8hzJyqDCA9R+EPkPGTC8eV7wL amAHSVmncXpztEhiqPg7J7exYE4hbD+qjU/yM= Message-ID: <4B9FFDFE.9000503@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:54:06 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: OT: substitute for hardware/system profiles in Windows 7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, sorry for this OT topic, but I'm mostly hanging in that neighbourhood bar most of the time so... I'm using Windows 7 (Professional x64) on my new main music computer. Due to the fact that it's my only portable computer with a big screen, I'd like to consider the idea to use it for both (music-making and other stuff), but if possible without the hassle of two independent OS installations. So basically, I need a way to have two different system configurations (like hardware profiles were back with e.g. XP) from which I can select at boot time. Those configurations would mainly differ with regard to services being run (among them network and security (virus scanner etc.)) stuff. Is this possible? Thanks, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 22:14:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36B383BE81; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268777651; bh=+OFxxp2gKOAbh4on0/gmDyVviKkuC26NCXKBCqvgeSY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kk+0m+gZWkhSR2HzTfp6j96jcYDgV8kr3qfswRI8lJU5Fgkv4v8WOmTY1mzaSCXQcUDOvFLavX6/5GRB7UxoonYvVme6KXkNtDUwpU4TpBAro2FSU4kSKYFV970HrZRZrB+TGUm/pq6TqBpcLNjQ8ywYp8wFJ+aiAzXArfLJNfM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gq4mqerjhcSA9jZNthICslVlXlQO2VONh2ItaExPQr5ARvJNuA0YAqtY4/nJajyC8sykrNZuUcCZAD31dOOQ4VmgrZjgwCAJWcwEzc6kVCRuBua08/aFSgfIhWplelcDgeM6nhK5M5Uz/8Fskd9BfLZjakMWumZ+1dTVGA82ORo=; Message-ID: <888047.41570.qm@web45901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Rat7ZzEVM1mbg5aBP8gFI_pLwUwmEo3wIp1pBGZqeRp1Sjx1A2Lx2Ncp_EFcHXshmc235RcsQMPSn4TxC.0815xfrsLZdAabaKPck5vs.Lyqgy_Xpb6rA4eAeSekg.y2SeRBNdqSl7bFuiIr5aJeg2BXn0wnkOwJEaj7ifXgLZm.5bLVzdwI4lv6vHIYN20cPUTpmcoF8FTSriU4YMF54ZW4fETqjhb0mZ7dH7BrVIgwEsIaBAd09ymCIfmMbNXHStMeTh9nsclqO5NLf8BRKwjTXh7TH9.u.xzoYlJ63.o- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <007f01cac51a$1745c370$46f43747@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:14:11 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <007f01cac51a$1745c370$46f43747@tbl01fcf9be917> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-56243776-1268777651=:41570" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:14:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-56243776-1268777651=:41570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jeff, I tried the unsubscribe method posted and couldn't figure out how to get the dalkron unsubscriber to drop properly.... ;) -- so i guess i am stuck in this infinite loop! Robert, Being serious now, I am somewhat of a newb having only been on the list for a couple of years. I guarantee you, if you stay connected to this list you will learn a lot, and not just about looping, but mixing/gear/life/music/rythm/etc I have tried Mobius and that is excellent especially the price, right now though focusing on hardware loopers just because I don't have a dedicated computer for music. The experts on the list will have plenty of advice on how to get a nice setup. Good Luck and welcome to the list! Eric ________________________________ From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:05:17 AM Subject: Re: unsubscribe hi Robert, We are not making fun of people because they want to unsub. We are making fun of them because they can't figure out how to do it. I mean you get out by following directions at the same place you get in..:) On your question, tough one! So many loopers and all ways have their points and drawbacks depending on what you are looking for. Try this if you haven't seen it: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php Welcome to Loopers Delight! "You can check out but you can never leave" Jeff --0-56243776-1268777651=:41570 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Jeff,

I tried the unsubscribe method posted and couldn't figure out how to get the dalkron unsubscriber to drop properly.... ;)  -- so i guess i am stuck in this infinite loop!

Robert,

Being serious now, I am somewhat of a newb having only been on the list for a couple of years. I guarantee you, if you stay connected to this list you will learn a lot, and not just about looping, but mixing/gear/life/music/rythm/etc

I have tried Mobius and that is excellent especially the price, right now though focusing on hardware loopers just because I don't have a dedicated computer for music. The experts on the list will have plenty of advice on how to get a nice setup.

Good Luck and welcome to the list!
Eric



From: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:05:17 AM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe

hi Robert,
 
We are not making fun of people because they want to unsub. We are making fun of them because they can't figure out how to do it. I mean you get out by following directions at the same place you get in..:)
 
On your question, tough one! So many loopers and all ways have their points and drawbacks depending on what you are looking for.
 
Try this if you haven't seen it: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php
 
Welcome to Loopers Delight! "You can check out but you can never leave"
 
 
Jeff

--0-56243776-1268777651=:41570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 22:26:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 119253BE85; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B9FB97A.1050201@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:01:46 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Soundscapes Concert Series Returns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:26:04 +0000 (UTC) In 2002 and 2003, the Soundscapes Concert Series presented vidnaObmana, Orbital Decay, The Ministry of Inside Things, and Tom Shaw in concert. The cost of doing shows at the venue then priced Soundscapes out of business. I am pleased to announce that a new venue has finally been located that will allow the Soundscapes Concert Series to be resurrected. On Saturday, April 24, 2010, the first new show in seven years will be presented. Twyndyllyngs and Technicolor Travel Agency will perform starting at 8:00 pm. The doors open at 7:30 pm. There is a suggested donation of $10 to help the musicians, venue, and promoter to defray their costs. Information about the bands and the concert series may be found at: http://soundscapes.us Meanwhile, you can become friends with the Soundscapes Concert Series at these social networks: http://myspace.com/soundscapesconcertseries http://facebook.com/soundscapesconcerts I look forward to seeing you at a concert in the near future. Cheers, Bill Fox Soundscapes Artistic Director From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 22:33:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EE5C3BE85; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Robert Lewis' Quest for Looping Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:33:09 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <_N2qzD.A.im.scAoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Andy wrote" I'm afraid KB uses Midi Translator simply because his foot controller isn't sophisticated enough. Incidently, KB uses a Mac." Hmmm, does He know about the Gordius controller? It is interesting how woefully inadequate the ground control is as a midi event controller, but then it was designed really to act as remote switcher for effects pedals for touring guys who want to keep their pedals in a draw in a rack, those days, except for the guys in the rarefied air, are all but over. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 23:21:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41A033BE8A; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268781669; bh=F9eT/kWIKWRUiXayJAigLvOaaOZ1YMMWRxiTaESN2bc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FeDWOAsRnyCIGvtG3OJJh6TXu/eXN2JBFEjFRw/5D3FUDdydXrF5WpKyYYuooGg5hy0QmHdkuv51qf3fRcDyY3B1UTJZ408CfrI+fXZB9GIgCIXjZeiipC1pQVe/8ywlq1P9oTfahKp/4a21V7uAHyCDzItoUDz0SUp8M090EHs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ByqUk9aHfQYNi0HPEEZIVLRmm0Ky76qLf3WnInXZFSlQm9m3B7uH/kFadNtDgXu5BBI5SrUebTHhKErc0/aNsruVilroq+smz4lh0OZ3QI+6BOPqoeYVaH4KqzDcvGE+I0ExiaLxAuBCYUFWAtKLcu7rxcgYydpOK70SL5QwkYs=; Message-ID: <604020.57575.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sIn2iG0VM1lIpVRNO5u9hdSB8YZlIsfnIOH7oaMY29OSOka S4oh4AuG5WF.hUoZxWsrECNOf7Vw8AF4yb_hdBSlhVZW.WpSYVXZa2vIS4zn 4.TqPj9OfL7TjmNRrW82TY6LuwcQ4hsUdP85YSMoit2QqIUFdrwaJAM6joUh sGNRe.IpNk2nikLgjTV_bEZjxzLSkYh.Be9FsDpmZSwEk9ttUSn4thVY4Kjz MMNVB2upvYu5PUbVdKqqZM1hSXfPCs.zYUXfvz7.E5d6_U._i8PcDyIj1SYN 8og3.ZCvb8OeWwmS8Unt5T.nmBw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: Proposing - Looper-Delight CD Vol IV To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2053075782-1268781669=:57575" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:21:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-2053075782-1268781669=:57575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, =0A=0AI would like to propose we create another compilation Loopers-= Delight CD gathering examples of our Looping music.=0A=0AIt offers a chance= to release our music, while sharing the costs of production -- and if ever= yone who participates also promotes the CD to local radio outlet's it can o= ffer a chance for the music to be heard world-wide.=0A=0AWe've probably all= released CD's before, so you know the ropes.=A0 Here are the "broad stokes= " of what I'm proposing:=0A=0A- each submission be no longer than 6.00 minu= tes (so, no more than 12 tracks on the CD).=0A- submissions to be provided = on CD.=0A- producing 1000 actual CD's in regular Jewel Boxes (the kind radi= o stations prefer...).=0A- simple colour art-work with track details and in= formation (to be further specified).=0A- division of stamping and artwork p= rinting costs.=0A- depending on how many participate, we divide production = costs.=0A- mailing costs for participants to receive CDs based on where par= ticipants live in the world! (I'm located in Boston, MA).=0A=0AI can work o= ut a deal for professional mastering of the collection.=A0 =0A=0ADo we have= an graphic artist in the group?=0A=0AInterested??=A0 If yes, please reply = to my email AND NOT ONLY TO THE LD LIST - THANKS!=0A=A0=0AI'll compile inte= rest and report back to everyone Friday.=0A=A0=0ACheers, =0A=0ADavid=0A=0A= =0A --0-2053075782-1268781669=:57575 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks,
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I would like to propose = we create another compilation Loopers-Delight CD gathering examples of our = Looping music.
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It offers a chance to relea= se our music, while sharing the costs of production -- and if everyone who = participates also promotes the CD to local radio outlet's it can offer a ch= ance for the music to be heard world-wide.
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=0AWe've probably all released CD's before, so you know the ropes.  Here= are the "broad stokes" of what I'm proposing:
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- each submission be no longer than 6.00 minutes (so, no more than 12 = tracks on the CD).
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- submissions to be provided on CD.
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- producing 1000 actual CD's in regular Jewel Boxes (the kind radio= stations prefer...).
=0A
- simple colour art-work with track deta= ils and information (to be further specified).
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- division of s= tamping and artwork printing costs.
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- depending on how many pa= rticipate, we divide production costs.
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- mailing costs for par= ticipants to receive CDs based on where participants live in the world! (I'= m located in Boston, MA).
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I can work out a= deal for professional mastering of the collection. 
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Do we have an graphic artist in the group?
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Interested??  = If yes, please reply to my email AND NOT ONLY TO THE LD LIST - THANKS!
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I'll c= ompile interest and report back to everyone Friday.
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Cheers,
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David<= /DIV>

=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-2053075782-1268781669=:57575-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 16 23:54:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9141E3BE89; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3602 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:54:03 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:53:13 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Dr. T, Frenette, Graham , Brunel , Lomon 3/21 at Outpost Gallery, Cambridge Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing video improvisations with at an event Duets Plus at at Outpost 186 in Cambridge on this coming Sunday (3.21). Forbes Graham, trumpet, Kevin Frenette, guitar, Todd Brunel, Clarinets Glynis Lomon, Cello and Voice will perform with me in all possible duet combinations This is the second event of a monthly Outpost series called Visual Music LIVE. Upcoming on April 18 is Doctor T, video, with Eric Zinman (just back from his European tour, which is going very well) solo piano. I'm looking forward to this greatly. Suggested donation $10. 8:00 Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), Cambridge 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From hmtreasury8@gmail.com Wed Mar 17 00:08:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 472 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:08:19 UTC Received: from eyou.net (mail.gxtcmu.edu.cn [210.36.99.8]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 064F43BE79 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:08:12 +0000 (UTC) X-EYOU-SPAMVALUE:0 X-EYOU-DEALDRC: X-EMDG-VER:2008-11-28 Received: (eyou anti_spam gateway 3.0); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:51:55 +0800 Message-ID: <468783515.19682@eyou.net> X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: @ Received: from 82.128.32.64 by 210.36.99.8 with SMTP; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:51:49 +0800 Reply-To: From: "HM Treasury" Subject: Payment Transfer Notification of GBP3, 500.000.00 Pounds Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:04:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Payment Transfer Notification of GBP3, 500.000.00 Pounds The treasury directorate division of the UK Financial Monetary Service Authority writes to inform you that we have credit advice documentary evidence in your favor to authorize the release of GBP3,500,000.00(Three Million Five hundred Thousand Pounds Only) to you being an outstanding payment accrued interest on your contract/inheritance payment. 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Direct all reply to: hmtreasury5a@gmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 00:22:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EF433BE86; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=EnmY5UI0IxIMZJNijsC4vo8xmVlwRaEZ5oLbPiCqlns=; b=VarB9m9xnME5twzTQ4prPcGiqfUexSE7BWgWMVm2dSY9VJDR4s0yIljcbu6EDfmL6d dBhVSSz13MnOxncTiR40cx3ZVe8bigXl0a1FAQNZXswHocM4ILuC/AJ21eAHcTXGg90c k4Ncs62Y1h1zSYCchSKFq0m+So47Y2Z3emLhY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Jmv/Ndb0OdDzjpoZzC7oSd3DDeefjKtrEL9CHr5mhVtojvros8R7qJzPy7Cadn7ezn aVeVmluJ7deDfg8Rgz/wYmmKf/Z5ccv6UYkaBvVw5ua+xGDE5QIcm2Hcuh9xDTjhpdBR 5irA4ELrFJpw9QPpxqUOyrwLc+GXfnUno7zxU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:22:30 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: komplete vs. ableton From: james fowler To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a85a1985ab0481f41c36 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:22:31 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a85a1985ab0481f41c36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i know this is a really subjective question, but what are people's thoughts on the these two? i'm really torn and the demos unfortunately don't really let you dig in and see what's what. maybe for people who've spent some serious time with either...what are your praises and complaints. i really like the samplers (kontakt and battery) in komplete and live. i prefer mobius, so the looper in ableton doesn't matter. komplete just seems, um, deeper. any and all input is greatly appreciated. all of this will run inside of bidule. - jim --000e0cd6a85a1985ab0481f41c36 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i know this is a really subjective question, but what are people's thou= ghts on the these two?=A0 i'm really torn and the demos unfortunately d= on't really let you dig in and see what's what.=A0 maybe for people= who've spent some serious time with either...what are your praises and= complaints.

i really like the samplers (kontakt and battery) in komplete and live.= =A0 i prefer mobius, so the looper in ableton doesn't matter.=A0 komple= te just seems, um, deeper.=A0 any and all input is greatly appreciated.=A0 = all of this will run inside of bidule.

- jim
--000e0cd6a85a1985ab0481f41c36-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 02:28:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0922D3BE85; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:28:24 UTC Reply-To: From: "Andrew Koenig" To: References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: komplete vs. ableton Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:20:12 -0400 Message-ID: <00c901cac578$60253900$206fab00$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CA_01CAC556.D9139900" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcrFZ/Zr+sAZAWsJSzai1P4e5gtQqgAD+36Q Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:28:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01CAC556.D9139900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Komplete and Ableton solve very different problems. Komplete is a collection of synths; Live is a beautifully integrated environment for storing fragments of MIDI or audio and organizing them for live performance. Live also happens to include some synths, with which you can get a lot of interesting sounds. Most of Live's synths are substantially different from any of Komplete's synths, and vice versa. You can use them both together. Which one to consider first really depends on what you're trying to do. From: james fowler [mailto:twostroke@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:23 PM To: loopers-delight Subject: komplete vs. ableton i know this is a really subjective question, but what are people's thoughts on the these two? i'm really torn and the demos unfortunately don't really let you dig in and see what's what. maybe for people who've spent some serious time with either...what are your praises and complaints. i really like the samplers (kontakt and battery) in komplete and live. i prefer mobius, so the looper in ableton doesn't matter. komplete just seems, um, deeper. any and all input is greatly appreciated. all of this will run inside of bidule. - jim ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01CAC556.D9139900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Komplete and Ableton solve very different problems.  Komplete is a collection of synths; Live is a beautifully integrated environment for storing fragments of MIDI or audio and organizing them = for live performance.  Live also happens to include some synths, with which = you can get a lot of interesting sounds.  Most of Live’s synths are substantially different from any of Komplete’s synths, and vice = versa.

 

You can use them both together.  Which one to = consider first really depends on what you’re trying to = do.

 

From:= james = fowler [mailto:twostroke@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:23 PM
To: loopers-delight
Subject: komplete vs. ableton

 

i know this is a really subjective question, but = what are people's thoughts on the these two?  i'm really torn and the demos unfortunately don't really let you dig in and see what's what.  = maybe for people who've spent some serious time with either...what are your = praises and complaints.

i really like the samplers (kontakt and battery) in komplete and = live.  i prefer mobius, so the looper in ableton doesn't matter.  komplete = just seems, um, deeper.  any and all input is greatly appreciated.  = all of this will run inside of bidule.

- jim

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I write to seek your assistance in claiming and investing the sum of $28m USD which is lying unclaimed in our finance/clearing house in which I am a Director. The original/initial depositor is dead and there is no recorded next of kin to our deceased customer and nobody has asked for this fund for the past eight years.The fund is contained in two trunk boxes marked 106 and 107 respectively. For security reasons, I will give you o ther informations about this fund and the criteria for a hitchfree claiming of this fund and the transfer to your good account number for our mutual benefits upon receipt of your favorable response. We will also discuss the sharing percentage and the investment upon hearing from you. To prove to you the genuineness of this fund, I have consulted a Lawyer who will assist me in the procurement of a sworn affidavit of fact and affidavit of claim in your name and on your behalf from a High Court here and our Ministry of Justice respectively. These two affidavits will be used for the procurement of the change of beneficiary name of this fund to your name from the security company as this will enable you to claim the fund. Again, for security reasons, all informations concerning this fund will be made available to you upon receipt of your acceptance reply;You have to send me your private telephone number so we can have a heart to heart conversation or call me on +233242381569 Remain blessed, Mr. Manna Mansah From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 03:02:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4F923BE8B; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=IgU0VWbFzJ8R5xJAQKPC8JNO+s7Rr/iMmGT+hq2TqT3o2Xfn74xfKltbQwxK4Ney; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003161250h20dd01ddn8c96f55cfe5526c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f1003161250h20dd01ddn8c96f55cfe5526c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:00:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-943327543==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79b4a7d98f23eec440d43a68ad8005c4f0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.125.160 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:02:34 +0000 (UTC) --============_-943327543==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Not...! >HEH HEH BUSTED! > >Careful what you say when you are surrounded by nerds, who like >nothing better than to "check the archives".. eh Andy? > >On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:53 PM, andy butler ><akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >Charles Zwicky wrote: > >I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....? > > >your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 > > > > >-- >www.markfrancombe.com >www.ordoabkhao.com >http://vimeo.com/user825094 >http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky --============_-943327543==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscri
Not...!



HEH HEH BUSTED!

Careful what you say when you are surrounded by nerds, who like nothing better than to "check the archives".. eh Andy?
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:53 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Charles Zwicky wrote:
I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....?

your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007



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http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch


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--============_-943327543==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 03:02:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 677713BE8F; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Bd+GOsfMfRdsn4sc30/SWJZfzQNPCdfIETY/G50oJE69i0YgTYObjuufzytQcbPW; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003161301y7212af96v3afff05d1cbaff0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e7b51521002250941p21ce542qecd15e069502e014@mail.gmail.com> <83879d531003160509s137b9bedw73d1d99351823ddc@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f1003160739x20449c11nf37d743ee9a199a3@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FC5A1.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f1003161301y7212af96v3afff05d1cbaff0c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:01:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscribe) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-943327543==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79b4a7d98f23eec440f4c0db24d9566deb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.125.160 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:02:35 +0000 (UTC) --============_-943327543==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Of course I do.. + 3 others! >WOW.. And what an awesome rig it was!!! I dont suppose you still use >that do you? > >MArk > >On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Charles Zwicky ><cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Andy Butler wrote: > >your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 > > >Trolling Andy? > >I'd like to point out that you're also wrong about that.. > >... My rig was detailed on the site in 1998. > >http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/199803/msg00021.html > > >Charles Zwicky wrote: > >I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....? > > >your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007 > > > >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > > > >-- >www.markfrancombe.com >www.ordoabkhao.com >http://vimeo.com/user825094 >http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky --============_-943327543==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Looping Discussions and Comparisons (Was Re: unsubscri
Of course I do.. + 3 others!

WOW.. And what an awesome rig it was!!! I dont suppose you still use that do you?

MArk
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Andy  Butler wrote:

your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007

Trolling Andy?

I'd like to point out that you're also wrong about that..

...  My rig was detailed on the site in 1998.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/199803/msg00021.html


Charles Zwicky wrote:
I should know ... I've been active on LD for, what, 15 years....?

your first "forum" post wasn't 'till 2007


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky



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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
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Yours Faithfully, Mr Francis Ackah From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 07:13:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 346B93BE86; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BA0812A.7030501@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:13:46 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Qua wrote: "Large plastic ziplock bags can be useful for organizing, labeling" Yeah, I have a large collection of stomp box pedals that aren't on my current stomp box setup (it's in the air on a keyboard stand instead of on the floor). I kept losing or misplacing the WalWart ACs for each pedal and tearing my hair out looking for them right before I wanted to use something at a gig, so I went out and bought a whole bunch of really large ziplog bags. Now I put each pedal I"m not using in the bag with it's respective Wallwart and then put them inside of colorful egg cartons (or file crates) Here in California at least, they have made a lot of very brightly colored plastic file crates and they are a handy way to store different types of cables, stomp box pedals and even small instruments. The nice thing is that you can see from across the room what crate you are looking for as long as you memorize your color scheme. I can also see the individual stomp boxes through the see through baggies too , so I can quickly sort them out if I"m looking for something in particular. I don't know if I"m too weird or not (go ahead, brothers and sisters, let the flames begin) but I like to just put different pedals together in different combinations and just go to a gig without knowing exactly what they'll do. I know that someone like my brother who is so meticulous about his guitar sound, both regular and processed that this won't do, but I like to be surprised and try to make something out of what the processing gives me. This is also, to be honest, pretty easy when you are dealing with noise as I am currently doing with a large part of my live performances. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 07:17:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 650803BE8D; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BA08223.8010200@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:17:55 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Query about naming protocal in the daily digest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:17:58 +0000 (UTC) I've noticed that some people's emails have their name in them followed by their email address in the daily digestl like this: Your Name whereas others don't. Mine in this case doesn't have my name printed. Is there a way to change this that anyone is hip to? There are a lot of 'looppool's and 'buzaps' and 'mechs' on this list without their names attached to their monikers and it occasionally confuses me so I imagine it must really confuse newbies. any thoughts? Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 07:40:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED76C3BE86; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=8 spamscore=8 ipscore=0 phishscore=2 bulkscore=0 adultscore=1 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003170008 Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4BA0812A.7030501@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:40:46 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Hey, man--it's a form of improvisation. > I don't know if I"m too weird or not (go ahead, brothers and sisters, > let the flames begin) > but I like to just put different pedals together in different > combinations and just go > to a gig without knowing exactly what they'll do. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 09:05:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB78F3BE82; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 234398.6746.bm@omp117.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268816720; bh=S+rMkyv+jBbSlcoe5PHP05YPaV07GdTz+6xq1BJDK7c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wZxPulEP+9/H3S2KbwiK951cEHXhEZ8eQstIv0tzWYt9Oar6kkyZF1l4KUwEfBDFhrVmoPoQrfIKBXi8JNz7VmyUw2yMbJz2NQuzGojxeHXj5djDOq3GKITjaqF9urTercYh6NN1EzHUQaOwxkZ/X88rm/Ot4vtMSfm9JBCptvc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2ExwdYzbJ18pSQiaciAzCIBzXq3lIU5RqUIvtXLcKwrs7ux6UnIcDkwgiBY/4E/148QPgEBOEKtRMD5pxYcEJjEf1q/mKEGIaHAW3DPPVj0QWqdwrnu9IDQXyeDAbHe4lhHTzoZBlQCMXQwhExDWXWmmyZQ11hvstvRK6eC191k=; Message-ID: <71870.97036.qm@web65614.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AqXfqDUVM1lS0jTu.oUlEa.0dVIj3xQDvGcddZCqmnJKoVZbkgZL.CLHrfRFC3z0MfDLJSRhF.T.Dsb7_Uw_P6uezdsiH5QwEIa0d53JSGFl_mqHCoaZ94k6EPn7djYVB1jtaR1P3THvKHzVi3dOLCnDEOqax0HDlbp57S00qNZPDsaK2QCdxTRURxbQa1pYt.WPWJDdebN2fkUaJCSpea7QD6AzLXStCL66sEymosdnaU3NNuAmPru6hZ9w7ixskCUFMGYq70PoQxl7NZdJJrNG8bwFPePfChhOilXZYN.cSSoBjvpN8GrZABqMw0IyxxLHnNEGrXp4EH4N8kpw7umGrmXd.QBatyg.bY6I1y6l1Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:05:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: Proposing - Looper-Delight CD Vol IV To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-722543725-1268816719=:97036" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:05:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-722543725-1268816719=:97036 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello David, What is your email? Antony Hwquet Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:21 AM, david kirkdorffer wrote: > Folks, > > I would like to propose we create another compilation Loopers- > Delight CD gathering examples of our Looping music. > > It offers a chance to release our music, while sharing the costs of > production -- and if everyone who participates also promotes the CD > to local radio outlet's it can offer a chance for the music to be > heard world-wide. > > We've probably all released CD's before, so you know the ropes. > Here are the "broad stokes" of what I'm proposing: > > - each submission be no longer than 6.00 minutes (so, no more than > 12 tracks on the CD). > - submissions to be provided on CD. > - producing 1000 actual CD's in regular Jewel Boxes (the kind radio > stations prefer...). > - simple colour art-work with track details and information (to be > further specified). > - division of stamping and artwork printing costs. > - depending on how many participate, we divide production costs. > - mailing costs for participants to receive CDs based on where > participants live in the world! (I'm located in Boston, MA). > > I can work out a deal for professional mastering of the collection. > > Do we have an graphic artist in the group? > > Interested?? If yes, please reply to my email AND NOT ONLY TO THE > LD LIST - THANKS! > > I'll compile interest and report back to everyone Friday. > > Cheers, > > David > --0-722543725-1268816719=:97036 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello David,
What is your email?
Antony Hwquet

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:21 AM, david kirkdorffer <unstrungone@yahoo.com> wrote:

Folks,
 
I would like to propose we create another compilation Loopers-Delight CD gathering examples of our Looping music.
 
It offers a chance to release our music, while sharing the costs of production -- and if everyone who participates also promotes the CD to local radio outlet's it can offer a chance for the music to be heard world-wide.
 
We've probably all released CD's before, so you know the ropes.  Here are the "broad stokes" of what I'm proposing:
 
- each submission be no longer than 6.00 minutes (so, no more than 12 tracks on the CD).
- submissions to be provided on CD.
- producing 1000 actual CD's in regular Jewel Boxes (the kind radio stations prefer...).
- simple colour art-work with track details and information (to be further specified).
- division of stamping and artwork printing costs.
- depending on how many participate, we divide production costs.
- mailing costs for participants to receive CDs based on where participants live in the world! (I'm located in Boston, MA).
 
I can work out a deal for professional mastering of the collection. 
 
Do we have an graphic artist in the group?
 
Interested??  If yes, please reply to my email AND NOT ONLY TO THE LD LIST - THANKS!
 
I'll compile interest and report back to everyone Friday.
 
Cheers,
 
David


--0-722543725-1268816719=:97036-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 09:38:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5DFA3BE7E; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 362583456/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.140.217/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.140.217 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBABNAoEtPTozZ/2dsb2JhbAAHxkwIjUaCXgiCEAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,656,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="362583456" Message-ID: <4BA0A336.3050906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:39:02 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Query about naming protocal in the daily digest OT References: <4BA08223.8010200@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4BA08223.8010200@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:38:47 +0000 (UTC) hi Rick, I use the regular list, rather than the digest, and I'm seeing "Rick Walker" displayed in the "From" field on this thread. ....but not with every post, about half your mails just have the email address. So, if you're mailing from 2 different setups, you should be able to troubleshoot the Email Account. (otherwise, I'm clueless) andy Rick Walker wrote: > I've noticed that some people's emails > have their name in them followed by their email address > in the daily digestl > > like this: > > Your Name > > whereas others don't. > > Mine in this case doesn't have my name printed. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 11:40:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C7203BE86; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=msVSDGf36ucbZsL88kkHmOx1t8Bf25zrLO/e5O2bsfc=; b=lAX0sr/hTR3J8l2UZeAOMRMIjbXj9+I7xGe38uSai4XMEZ9vH1d2F2o/mmgAf3r+Pq x/OvNPoNwxODyEpOJJm/XNv7ikuU+G8qbr8PUvrhPtug9WSuHOdsc37lr2uSlXqLHZIk 4Fn+ZjdRzpeDR2LwPrub2C3yOXEyhfKVGBO48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=sdLsLxI6A5ArUJFx8puADYpPR7obXfdqETZ+sKfuq/AVguPPvlxwGvW1Adt1cwbfC7 qRO4wJgXzyvhRrKr/gNTlnxF6LSCV9b4SFrbO+AQQwMTQd8g2yg0wvKqzVTCwBWKoWBy 5f27dBdArLThzV2hI12HSWz64y3Rvhn7EuHIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4BA08223.8010200@cruzio.com> References: <4BA08223.8010200@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:40:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 124f3197c1ad53c4 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003170440h2d096748r4ea5803445f87722@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Query about naming protocal in the daily digest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d792451bb10481fd9473 Resent-Message-ID: <7n8H8B.A.eAB.n-LoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:40:23 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0d792451bb10481fd9473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The best thing is if people use there real names when signing their mails... Regards LoopDude.. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I've noticed that some people's emails > have their name in them followed by their email address > in the daily digestl > > like this: > > Your Name > > whereas others don't. > > Mine in this case doesn't have my name printed. > > Is there a way to change this that anyone is hip to? > > There are a lot of 'looppool's and 'buzaps' and 'mechs' on this > list without > their names attached to their monikers and it occasionally confuses me so I > imagine > it must really confuse newbies. > > any thoughts? > > Rick Walker > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0d792451bb10481fd9473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The best thing is if people use there real names when signing their mails..= .

Regards

LoopDude..



On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:<= br>
I've noticed = that some people's emails
have their name in them followed by their email address
in the daily digestl

like this:

Your Name <strange_moniker@anydomain.com>

whereas others don't.

Mine in this case doesn't have my name printed.

Is there a way to change this that anyone is hip to?

There are a lot of =A0 =A0'looppool's =A0 and 'buzaps' =A0 = and 'mechs' =A0on this list without
their names attached to their monikers and it occasionally confuses me so I= imagine
it must really confuse newbies.

any thoughts?

Rick Walker =A0<looppool@cruzio.com>




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--000e0ce0d792451bb10481fd9473-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 12:41:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 155CE3BE87; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 365592961/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.140.217/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.140.217 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAPdqoEtPTozZ/2dsb2JhbAAH1SeEdgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,657,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="365592961" Message-ID: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:40:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: New loop music, new techniques, download/stream Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:41:07 +0000 (UTC) here's some of the stuff I've been trying out lately. http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo1.mp3 http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo2.mp3 http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-resampleVari.mp3 or just stream the lot http://www.andybutler.com/andybutler-demos.m3u First 2 use the same technique, but for different results. Basically the Gorduis Little Giant controls the EDPs to create a short 8 beat loop, then to replace only every 3rd beat with the audio being played. Once it gets going, I vary things a bit, but that's the basic trick. I quite like the odd little "between the gaps" artefacts that eventually build up. The Little Giant actually allows to create loops of commands, which could be synced to the loop, although in this case the LG is master, and not actually synced. For the 3rd track the idea was to record a simple loop onto the EH Stereo Memory Man, then to resample it onto the EDPs, using the varispeed on the SMM. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 12:52:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E949B3BE84; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=yvaJ8KJ/FcP1JEiVFvEKXmweW2OZuOKd7EPsaIS+PDU7JkL1FuH1VFdgC81qmym62IEfGPQU8My3RsdiaGe3Ewh5VqgW/vcOo3d1zR32/qppuPcoECfuGdeBMdey1AnIWmh8iOh7YqmtVnsVOfTGZxPf8LXFS0XJF4NQL/TNDFQ= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1268830363; bh=94kBSRaqndx6xXlWWyxrCV0H6RcQ8p2A1WryCXcT8NI=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=dKyQglxzC1fPIXyc1mlbQmlSp4eRTi/Jz0uUgjNmwK9w/IxSKua9HMf5SJxJzI9B7roydLeFZaJea7tQTWGoxCxJAuH2Y+lNAlIly4B2F2k2mBGtDEf7ZSguuVLu6bdnhgWUhndFR0Gj+4AU+SvUCqsVeXeWVRnbuZNAH/3sArA= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: zOPdPMQVM1n1JqfI9n_rm7Tf2_YexrHyL9V4NG4WKGIRzcPksKVkcCDn5QNjUM4hgL1.0R0yXophqub1FOyG7oGdNro9SJxi.s381NWQkNcPr9Pwwnn67bcHNLbz68dZMZvIhMVeJPQvH2SU5vcAHqKFgbwXCzD9oL8fRyZ6uKFINGNujXY9P2Emd2I4UrseuY2chlUvY8NGgWQFDJi46L9UGcSmYqDm0zl4hJQOGCE1wBDUZbC9EuDFiTzGoNo5kvj24WO2pdl9HLHxnrGGnQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-34-612864285 Message-Id: <26C2AA00-8AD4-4200-919E-117E8390792E@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: New loop music, new techniques, download/stream Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:52:36 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:52:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-34-612864285 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Andy - you should really put your music on bandcamp man - i would gladly pay for your downloads. Any news on a new CD? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 17 Mar 2010, at 12:40, andy butler wrote: > here's some of the stuff I've been trying out lately. > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo1.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo2.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-resampleVari.mp3 > > or just stream the lot > > http://www.andybutler.com/andybutler-demos.m3u > > First 2 use the same technique, but for different results. > > Basically > the Gorduis Little Giant controls the EDPs to create a short 8 beat > loop, then to > replace only every 3rd beat with the audio being played. > > Once it gets going, I vary things a bit, but that's the basic trick. > I quite like the odd little "between the gaps" artefacts that > eventually build up. > > The Little Giant actually allows to create loops of commands, which > could be > synced to the loop, although in this case the LG is master, and not > actually synced. > > > For the 3rd track the idea was to record a simple loop onto the EH > Stereo Memory Man, > then to resample it onto the EDPs, using the varispeed on the SMM. > > andy butler > --Apple-Mail-34-612864285 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Andy - you should really put your music on bandcamp man - i would gladly = pay for your downloads. Any news on a new CD?

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 17 Mar 2010, = at 12:40, andy butler wrote:

here's some of the stuff I've been trying out = lately.


or just = stream the lot


First 2 use the same technique, = but for different results.

Basically
the Gorduis Little Giant controls the EDPs to create = a short 8 beat loop, then to
replace only = every 3rd beat with the audio being played.

Once it gets = going, I vary things a bit, but that's the basic trick.
I quite like the odd little "between the gaps" = artefacts that eventually build up.

The Little Giant actually allows = to create loops of commands, which could be
synced = to the loop, although in this case the LG is master, and not actually = synced.


For the = 3rd track the idea was to record a simple loop onto the EH Stereo Memory = Man,
then to resample it onto the = EDPs, using the varispeed on the SMM.

andy = butler

=

= --Apple-Mail-34-612864285-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 13:38:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E1AF3BE89; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 658673.89487.bm@omp216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1268833107; bh=a1x2gYQNJOzp0RM7UasUHmfcVza7VeFcYgrTJ6B4LPM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ygp43J6QAecRbMvEq0mA7SbYtFax6qTv45o5ppCLSoWRYZAMqXlxey/zj0twevzRAyb99hisxGqUU3Yq+OA6lZRflTtRW0C6LHZcaJad5ON61CM3kaSiJlOClGxaYa0f7YcNAn2xUsInOWOd/EA4kHOLpaplOA1OeaJyPsEses0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jO5BPzL2XHNdKNPMO7OrfKVzz3hdIy7ifBSb8jjO+OhEN5HYKvJeFm/+msnIH5lBcff++qeWI+yE7ocqQEpgGxRuyJplS/qFOirjW9inXRrCUS0G7WblU22kurTULYwTf4d09UWRtgo1LFF5byHl/JMMsB/HnuNqEP/PXVP+tJY=; Message-ID: <467333.38749.qm@web24611.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jFy_a9wVM1m2JDsO4cpoDxim9VpT7XhTUET2Fh7QqKfa6dL 0_6.7JqoIEk5cben96LRqUY.vwT3bYKKyq0m9oTIhgbE.Bde2y_e45p_A3sb DQ32IvkMG7W5XphtH6ZyQyA5736F6Xon_6kag_gCMePExkPvbr548iWY0lqq c_lVwxDi4L0T1Rf_l416Dr8gTyLYolMgMyCK1QzToA_JdtJrtPmTqZ6AcLCk 7i.5TP2MCEOKA X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:38:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New loop music, new techniques, download/stream To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Really nice Andy,=0A=0A> the Gorduis Little Giant controls the EDPs to crea= te a=0A> short 8 beat loop, =0A=0AIs that using some kind of automated 'shu= ffle' function?=0A=0A> I quite like the odd little "between the gaps" artef= acts=0A> that eventually build up.=0A=0Ayes, sounds like hooves clip-cloppi= ng.=0A=0AI'm sure that the 3rd piece is made using an ebow, but when you sw= eep the pitch in the higher registers (? using the memory man), I could eas= ily believe you've got a synth in there (sounds like there's a bit of mooge= r foogering going on too).=0A=0AAnyway, it sounds terrific. As Matt says, = lets have another release, it's been a long time.=0A=0AStephen Scott=0Awww.= myspace.com/sylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 14:13:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40E883BE85; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W3uZsErUEadXhN8xhi6VTVB1VDeu/IsCrcJPYoYZnrE=; b=TNzf+D6Ytao2sRam0uA/eOp3lHAZ3bLk6lApGykvXweLBz9sF6THVHYmX4nwZ3CgAd 1p243M8FHciT8qsicEXpZm3Wo7W7TzG5sgvG/tdZdzw7yfAmLx4MCSTRHoKnBPY0xrxB aCg/2xdX5JaydAXndiALb31gEPsa1TF86ILbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fhGMsR4pEmcmUjGJj1PqHGD9mGy+edktNM/FZJ5xdnZAYVj6LC4bvJEQVQEjqJOV4R Ol798kRO7Lb+CiLsZg6z5G/0mo3mXoGWpuDDZQOUmjXMFoCGIqOyHYmx4iXw1jfcIRAH LaT8NXMPVCYYCt2QzWLsrL9oUC+TH4z2xykRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <99260504-5374-44C3-B24C-243E728FB2EF@arcor.de> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:13:32 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP pro voltage problems From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1aa3e1f2a670481ffb81c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:13:34 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1aa3e1f2a670481ffb81c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Do you know where to get furman power conditioner for countries using 240v? Thanx in advance. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Ace Ovil wrote: > I have one that acted pretty erratically and kept blowing fuses. The > problem was completely resolved by sticking a furman power conditioner > in the rack. I think it is just especially sensitive to surges. > Hope that helps, > Ace > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Willers [mailto:a.willers@arcor.de] > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:22 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: EDP pro voltage problems > > Hi, > I'm back to the list with an uncommon EDP problem that I'd like to > get some feedback on. I use a blackface Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro > Plus with the original analog footpedal for about one year now and I > seem to have problems with it that are so infrequent and irregular > that I attribute them to the condition under which it is running - be > it proper grounding or maybe lack of sufficient AC power. Like on one > gig of a tour in January it worked totally crazy and unpredictable, > on the other four gigs it worked flawlessly....like the ghost in the > haunted machine (and my haunted mind!). > > Has any EDP user experienced similar things? I myself have never had > this with my older beige Obie before. Oh, and I'm in Europe, so it's > 230/240V. On one of the rare occasions when this happended at home > last week I measured 229V on my house line, which still seems > reasonable (we usually have around 236V here). > > Thanks for your input, Andreas > > --000e0cd1aa3e1f2a670481ffb81c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,
Do you know where to get furman power conditioner for countries usin= g 240v?
Thanx in advance.

On Mon, Mar = 15, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Ace Ovil <aovil@wfubmc.edu> wrote:
I have one that a= cted pretty erratically and kept blowing fuses. The
problem was completely resolved by sticking a furman power conditioner
in the rack. I think it is just especially sensitive to surges.
Hope that helps,
Ace

-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Willers [mailto:a.wille= rs@arcor.de]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:22 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
Subject: EDP pro voltage problems

Hi,
I'm back to the list with an uncommon EDP problem that I'd like to<= br> get some feedback on. I use a blackface Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro
Plus with the original analog footpedal for about one year now and I
seem to have problems with it that are so infrequent and irregular
that I attribute them to the condition under which it is running - be
it proper grounding or maybe lack of sufficient AC power. Like on one
gig of a tour in January it worked totally crazy and unpredictable,
on the other four gigs it worked flawlessly....like the ghost in the
haunted machine (and my haunted mind!).

Has any EDP user experienced similar things? I myself have never had
this with my older beige Obie before. Oh, and I'm in Europe, so it'= s
230/240V. On one of the rare occasions when this happended at home
last week I measured 229V on my house line, which still seems
reasonable (we usually have around 236V here).

Thanks for your input, Andreas


--000e0cd1aa3e1f2a670481ffb81c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 14:23:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 451213BE85; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268835779; bh=LitoP7dyYfXWsdlUol4bFLPjTvhZbj8DE/Bh8blytPY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k/ASO4FhkRssKCnrDWUNgsSFp0/dFnMdmsa6m8aauwkvz7MqRY7NZnkwN57tysqD/ZGMzkUwkStMfSe9k3HpfCJgPdGkEnSpZC4lhJY4BMFFOGNVmzzfIEffIRnYb6btgeHoZqnkXU2MPv+8ge3oKLATHlY80KDlwD5qDlOjWhU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3vyzCAaLdBdxnASzCSbPH2lqzBUD9GzUDUz2ci/OdgNgIh2tD5/INXPwcEzz2OLl980lU4Zde/PLMkJJ59Otoq6dm2mJXyPPOBjMUvVS3VNof2zTlki6PkMWvawDDEr9jxpSfXcZo77H6pM/Vw25If6NDm9OnEryfqzQS1jLrvY=; Message-ID: <171312.64569.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4p705RcVM1lWeT1GmIuWzKbCNljjQvYxGqZaa_5LXiI3cQ.gN1W.Pq9KRCNZI46Z2LXouDBU0yo7kGavl.44j.fhTae2z3UfSARB4zllFZglmqY.WXeVAaPEJTCd90K22UujAHqxtwUjMyC.1E4DZASTGgMyMBDx07U_XLoleELOzQf_vqwso_Gp6SJhVFDDtzFnFIxbfmCFPyFZfWaGeRcf9ixy4CGE3iKTJTzXcFwJ_jAl99q9JAB1u3KXwHhc1L_FhqsTYuIHyPOIU4pBcFVgRhEQukVaMmlVaPdz.lboqiv6LVnJKOtWwtGNTTF63.wtgeWGehPgwH9d_KY2avVo4R.Y X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:22:59 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Pedal order, settings (was: how do you store your cables?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4BA0812A.7030501@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1075579361-1268835779=:64569" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:23:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-1075579361-1268835779=:64569 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 A 3rd or 4th "Amen!" for ziploc bags for short cables, batteries, any all t= hat indispensable=A0 misc. crap. =A0 And, like=A0Rick, I'm also all-in for=A0the non-stable pedal order.=A0 For = gigs, I get=A0my pedals out, line 'em up, hook 'em up, mix 'em up, add & re= move, etc. while practising and when I find a route I'm happy with, I sketc= h it out and do the gig.=A0 Next gig, I start all over again. =A0 Which is a hassle and every now and again I get the itch to get some kind o= f regular order but I like the new sounds I get, mostly by accident. =A0 I'm also splitting my signal and running two parrallel chains, one mostly s= traight (DL4, reverb, distortion) and the other not (DL4, DAED-modded DS-1,= pitch shifter, etc.)=A0 with=A0the latter having a volume pedal at the end= so I can bring it up and down.=A0 The one 'trick' that I've really latched= on to is to have the first pedal in the "freaky"=A0chain with the dry/effe= ct signal blend cranked all the to effect. =A0 ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: Re: how do you store your cables? To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Received: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 12:13 AM ... I don't know if I"m too weird or not (go ahead, brothers and sisters, let t= he flames begin) but I like to just put different pedals together in different combinations = and just go to a gig without knowing exactly what they'll do. I know that someone like my brother who is so meticulous about his guitar s= ound, both regular and processed that this won't do, but I like to be surprised and try to make something ou= t of what the processing gives me. This is also,=A0 to be honest,=A0 pretty easy when you are dealing with noi= se as I am currently doing with a large part of my live performances. Rick Walker=0A=0A=0A _________________________________________________= _________________=0AYahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web,= and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now=0Ahttp://ca.toolbar.yah= oo.com. --0-1075579361-1268835779=:64569 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
A 3rd or 4th "Amen!" for ziploc bags for short cables, batteries, any = all that indispensable  misc. crap.
 
And, like Rick, I'm also all-in for the non-stable pedal ord= er.  For gigs, I get my pedals out, line 'em up, hook 'em up, mix= 'em up, add & remove, etc. while practising and when I find a route I'= m happy with, I sketch it out and do the gig.  Next gig, I start all o= ver again.
 
Which is a hassle and every now and again I get the itch to get some k= ind of regular order but I like the new sounds I get, mostly by accident.
 
I'm also splitting my signal and running two parrallel chains, one mos= tly straight (DL4, reverb, distortion) and the other not (DL4, DAED-modded = DS-1, pitch shifter, etc.)  with the latter having a volume pedal= at the end so I can bring it up and down.  The one 'trick' that I've = really latched on to is to have the first pedal in the "freaky" chain = with the dry/effect signal blend cranked all the to effect.

 
ted.

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On = Wed, 3/17/10, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:<= BR>

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
= Subject: Re: how do you store your cables?
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting= )" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Received: Wednesday, Marc= h 17, 2010, 12:13 AM

...
I don't know if I"m too weird or not (go ahea= d, brothers and sisters, let the flames begin)
but I like to just put di= fferent pedals together in different combinations and just go
to a gig w= ithout knowing exactly what they'll do.

I know that someone like my = brother who is so meticulous about his guitar sound, both regular and proce= ssed
that this won't do, but I like to be surprised and try to make some= thing out of what the processing gives me.
This is also,  to be hon= est,  pretty easy when you are dealing with noise as I am currently do= ing with a
large part of my live performances.

Rick Walker
<= /BLOCKQUOTE>

=0A
=0ALooking for the = perfect gift? Give the gift of F= lickr! --0-1075579361-1268835779=:64569-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 15:13:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7E6E3BE84; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ks1xDeXeE1ZbDsjTqa7ybj5n7UJoGAlXLokWKEH8SVE=; b=Dnp8X87iSqE5XxBwiGzEkfuyKa+tpLTkSmvHcjz5hlk6FEkkyct+RgHQvcyHJeqr06 SLAmy749A+XjYb7Yhojgvis7eUwhIG/In0fu60QQKnWk5BuVbByQyYOE3Y1rwJCd8Mko WcgnD8Tzwdr7dDlUJFmfDKzQgChkG0klROt/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XCASX4tqYuo1O9d/A6ZWf9eRf1nHNJPtaBk8tNaWhmtN7qh5B0nPVmOfSayeOZthBF VaC0hz0UxISBOE/UmdiBfBs6hmVDalRp4gHxe9th4qFtZWyNlzWK8nfwr1Gz70M3h+zO CWhVAA1NYOH4XXzpG9sWRX4tiOGGY6snIzu4k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:13:43 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003170813x2bf127fawbc4bb079042b0c1c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New loop music, new techniques, download/stream From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db24d15b9bd90482008fe2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:13:46 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db24d15b9bd90482008fe2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Lovely music! I like that growly guitar sound and they way you play it tells you like it too! :-) Is that the wood pickup axe? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:40 PM, andy butler wrote: > here's some of the stuff I've been trying out lately. > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo1.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo2.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-resampleVari.mp3 > > or just stream the lot > > http://www.andybutler.com/andybutler-demos.m3u > --0016e6db24d15b9bd90482008fe2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lovely music! I like that growly guitar sound and they way you play it= tells you like it too! :-) Is that the wood pickup axe?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:40 PM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

--0016e6db24d15b9bd90482008fe2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 15:27:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FC4B3BE81; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZuXVuir587Ph7x1fsb/7tZ48NBcXjwDXGOoz5NE/BPU=; b=RSCLZrxvohnyQKyXcqj3Sf3iSHLigpwLI2Yjq0YU7kB8CTS+w6uFwpEnRc6pwQu5ez Ug7nBYi46BXREPD0xL7D2XaT0Dm/wZxtAaAi/sSwJbD+xLb69IEnPt8aLvHKiweXYaQk 0+NtcCD9iAXSgFCeep9qVfU6kc+3CfiXFjUXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GRwOvU88e8Zae3LkBCJjG8oHfipjuCrYjdRXLYOV9JQIQlJBGn7hnDQ0LQXIBbkIgD cvlz500+qptQB0AXXuhpSr4Eu/rCj2BGC7fDN5TpuiaD5bphq2oNUhlcQfAHW+3i5zlo eiUR8ntDfF0IjT0qbSOA/wQ0IVMq5oYeczUkQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:27:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New loop music, new techniques, download/stream From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747918607e751048200c135 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:27:40 +0000 (UTC) --00151747918607e751048200c135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very interesting, Andy. I dont' know if I've really understand what you're doing: are you just replacing every 3rd beat on a 8 beat loop, or are you also sending midi command from the Gordius ? ..And I'm agree...it's time to put out some new stuff. fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/3/17 andy butler > here's some of the stuff I've been trying out lately. > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo1.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo2.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-resampleVari.mp3 > > or just stream the lot > > http://www.andybutler.com/andybutler-demos.m3u > > First 2 use the same technique, but for different results. > > Basically > the Gorduis Little Giant controls the EDPs to create a short 8 beat loop, > then to > replace only every 3rd beat with the audio being played. > > Once it gets going, I vary things a bit, but that's the basic trick. > I quite like the odd little "between the gaps" artefacts that eventually > build up. > > The Little Giant actually allows to create loops of commands, which could > be > synced to the loop, although in this case the LG is master, and not > actually synced. > > > For the 3rd track the idea was to record a simple loop onto the EH Stereo > Memory Man, > then to resample it onto the EDPs, using the varispeed on the SMM. > > andy butler > > --00151747918607e751048200c135 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very interesting, Andy.
=A0
I dont' know if I've really understand what you're doing: = are you just replacing every 3rd beat on a 8 beat loop, or are you also sen= ding midi command from the Gordius ?
=A0
..And I'm agree...it's time to put out some new stuff.
=A0
fabio


=A0
2010/3/17 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=
here's some of the stuff I&#= 39;ve been trying out lately.

http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-= LG-EDP-demo1.mp3
http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo2.mp3
http://w= ww.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-resampleVari.mp3

or just stream the lot

http://www.andybutler.com/andybutler-de= mos.m3u

First 2 use the same technique, but for different result= s.

Basically
the Gorduis Little Giant controls the EDPs to create a sho= rt 8 beat loop, then to
replace only every 3rd beat with the audio being= played.

Once it gets going, I vary things a bit, but that's the= basic trick.
I quite like the odd little "between the gaps" artefacts that eve= ntually build up.

The Little Giant actually allows to create loops o= f commands, which could be
synced to the loop, although in this case the= LG is master, and not actually synced.


For the 3rd track the idea was to record a simple loop onto the EH = Stereo Memory Man,
then to resample it onto the EDPs, using the varispee= d on the SMM.

andy butler

--00151747918607e751048200c135-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 16:14:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1173BE82; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0G5kQSGmBtyL2SMSX2bmvDDvmF0PtAA73fY6fqV+e3U=; b=fH8oxrNGNaJIKTLWBL86YKArKPCwTC17M35ifj+ya2DU2fqbe44emQ7qBK370Jtcc4 a1ij/KVEMRIK4xCbIevup/7mFkizzusm7LtwZ4y8tz+UCNlPjvf88ZPPHCdSihrbbhMC Nqn49unT5BSmFPgwpgHsEU9XVh7HLPI3wN+Ik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=en/XJ0XkBFXhFP3LTVZscW7NSZyWv9bWQhSmfFR/bSmZYz2yoTlbg4fCGACSSyGJu+ NliMafZxol6j88A5Fkk5qg9gRuH4ALu/fZaN6032JYZZAivzuUgI8LoHlvcblsviX1nX 4LzfzFgFbrUptdAnoVP+8OdYPGIxJ+gxgSDeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:14:52 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: komplete vs. ableton From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4_XGHC.A._xC.-_PoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:14:54 +0000 (UTC) That's indeed a subjective question so ok, here's a subjective answer ;-)) Like Andrew said, Live and Komplete are two different things and it really is hard to compare a DAW host application with a bunch of instrument plug-ins. I think the instruments that come bundled with Live sound pretty lame compared to the instruments that comes with the Komplete bundle. You could of course buy extra Live instrument plug-ins that sounds excellent but that will cost you as much as Live + Komplete in the first place. Guitar Rig has excellent effect routing options built into the actual plug-in. Of course you could easily set up those routings in Live (except for envelope follow fixes) but IMHO nothing in Live sounds as good as GR as for guitar type distortion and effect processing. However, personally I like the sound of Amplitube 3 better, so I'm all off side here anyway. I own Kontakt 4 and think it is the best sampler available today. If you plan to go deeply into sampling that would be a good investment. I just got the version 4 upgrade and was amazed how stable and CPU efficient Kontakt is now. And it also sounds better than version 2 that I had before. This sampler has indeed evolved over time! Still not as CPU efficient as EXS24 that I run in Logic (in the studio) and Mainstage for live work, but that one is just a "low cpu workhorse" and doesn't have the deep sampler functionality you get with K4. So you get great sound with Komplete - although Absynth still is a CPU chewing monster that people love for the sound of it. The reason I can see to buy Ableton Live of today would be that you really want to get busy with signal routing in that particular environment. Many other hosts offer equal routing capabilities but the point with Live is that everything is up front. You don't have to create modules and patch them up, just mouse around and make choices among drop-down menues. In that sense it is extremely visually oriented. You can set up loops of audio, you can set up loops of MIDI that drives synths, you can set up loops of control data that drives effect parameters or any aspect of the track mixer. But Live is fundamentally designed as a playback system. It excels in DJ or remix oriented performance but is not very good when it comes to realtime capturing of live audio input. Mobius may cover up for that, but then you have the sync issue which is different depending on which one you like to sync to which one (MIDI clock "try-to-catch-up" game or plug-in sync that makes Mobius less fluent). Finally, you might want to buy Live because you also want to buy and work with Max For Live and create your own plugins. My final subjective view on this is on the bundled plugins and audio fidelity of Live. I've been using Live since version 3 but always achieved better sounding mixes when mixing in Logic. It feels like the effect plugins simply are better in that DAW. And you get high quality instruments bundled, not having to shell out a lot of extra money. Since they added Mainstage to the package I prefer that appl for live work rather than Live. I think I even prefer Bidule (under Windows) rather than Live. But that is from a live looping point of view, typically running the Mobius plugin as the tempo master center of the rig. You should try to imagine what you want to do and post some more specific questions. Or downloads the manuals and read them. Live's manual gives a total understanding of what you can do with the application. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:22 AM, james fowler wrote: > > i know this is a really subjective question, but what are people's though= ts on the these two?=C2=A0 i'm really torn and the demos unfortunately don'= t really let you dig in and see what's what.=C2=A0 maybe for people who've = spent some serious time with either...what are your praises and complaints. > > i really like the samplers (kontakt and battery) in komplete and live.=C2= =A0 i prefer mobius, so the looper in ableton doesn't matter.=C2=A0 komplet= e just seems, um, deeper.=C2=A0 any and all input is greatly appreciated.= =C2=A0 all of this will run inside of bidule. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 17:00:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23D673BE87; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:00:04 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100317170004.103950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: komplete vs. ableton To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/puSt0g1LpjSPj8sH+1iIx9CSiEshHf/uycbXtfB d0kA2D5dLsM9TtFnbp1RCNRWsjTEA/qaFw8w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: pnCUI/BCZDIrHscogWc2yOZ5emhmY8Ho X-FuHaFi: 0.79000000000000004 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Why not get both? Get the standard Ableton and use it with Kontakt, Guitar Rig, Battery... A friend of mine is doing just that - much happier than with Ableton's own instruments/samples etc. best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 17:01:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA7633BE89; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [174.19.99.193] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Coming to Phoenix, AZ - Anyone there want to play? Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:59:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E9_01CAC5C0.DACA6390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2010 17:01:01.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C52C910:01CAC5F3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:01:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E9_01CAC5C0.DACA6390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will be in Phoenix, Arizona all next week. Any loopers in the area? = I'd love to get together for a performance somewhere...coffee shop, dark = and seedy bar or lounge, house party, etc. I'm starving for more music social interaction...need to play, play, = play.... Kris ------=_NextPart_000_00E9_01CAC5C0.DACA6390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I will be in Phoenix, Arizona all next = week. =20 Any loopers in the area? I'd love to get together for a performance=20 somewhere...coffee shop, dark and seedy bar or lounge, house party,=20 etc.
 
I'm starving for more music social=20 interaction...need to play, play, play....
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00E9_01CAC5C0.DACA6390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 17:31:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AB023BE6F; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3609 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:31:18 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: komplete vs. ableton Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:30:28 -0500 References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:31:18 +0000 (UTC) > > > Since they added Mainstage to the package I prefer that appl for live > work rather than Live Would you mind elaborating a little bit on what Mainstage offers you that Live does not, or, in any case, why you happen to prefer Mainstage? I have both apps, and I was trying to decide which to use live. I have been leaning toward Live (and have been setting up Live sets for live use), but I really haven't given Mainstage a chance--- mostly because I don't know it yet. You might give me a nudge in that direction. Thanks, Jeff From unideai@dawson.nswebhost.com Wed Mar 17 18:00:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from dawson.nswebhost.com (dawson.nswebhost.com [65.254.40.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA513BE85 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unideai by dawson.nswebhost.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrxXE-0001Ys-ID for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:00:00 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cancellazione X-PHP-Script: unidea.es/es_es/cancellazione/index.php for 93.158.144.27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:00:00 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dawson.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32500 32501] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dawson.nswebhost.com Ti confermo che la cancellazione alla newsletter è stata effettuata From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 18:36:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E90D3BE87; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=EWkrX+M4J0lcAe0n46AidC13Rbs+XgRyHzWPzFlGe/8=; b=BEOmQGurMS9qaOt3MPn+LhpVuQLye6r9R/AK8F+yqv1RN8ECh877rJdUrqOK+ncmdS sux0eJ2Lk7x7rwBLtW0zRaCxDTqjOtLV0KW/QFU7y9v5RO+cXP3O0F6g2DwK8n7kPF1o zbVKou+zTNA0mJGmK/emd1smW3Co3n3CveHOk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=WUNVQfRKV5B3coywTmAiFJvTjqATFpO9RQ3rplY1O2xysgLWh4E4f2AmdWub4NrsOo BUJsuc2ZQNBgWix1rbyA8rc5iAABogkv4eIWGF9wK0wtJk1JHdPXR11eZY2J+++d3t0v bt2IEACGNXHQ2q/V8U1aH2OKvT5kOsH0khgVA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: komplete vs. ableton From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:39:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2F9B9504-90B3-4798-96F8-51389587F3EF@gmail.com> References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:36:45 +0000 (UTC) I've been disappointed with Komplete's electronic sounds, which is kind = of their focus. Butt the organ, orchestral, and piano sounds much better = then what you'd get in Ableton. And Guitar Rig is great. Very happy with = those. FM and Electric piano are pretty good, definitely worth it. But I = have yet to find many sounds that I really resonate with in syth and = bass sounds. I find most everything in Absynth and much of what's in = Massive... well, soulless, annoying crap. Obviously, that's subjective, = so it's really up to you. My advice is to really listen to all the demos = over and over and trust your feeling about them rather then think you'll = surely find stuff you like even if you don't hear it in the demo just = because there's so much content to choose from because you very well = might not. (Or might not find it through all the stuff that does not = resonate.) Good luck! I'd be curious to know what you choose in the end and why.=20 On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:22 PM, james fowler wrote: >=20 > i really like the samplers (kontakt and battery) in komplete and live. = i prefer mobius, so the looper in ableton doesn't matter. komplete = just seems, um, deeper. any and all input is greatly appreciated. all = of this will run inside of bidule. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 18:43:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F6FD3BE89; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bGWZH08OSJuHpoYBoExDAidDSARTY61y41BTuZAdSr4=; b=v1Xv3rDIBdFahKCn3RgzTFItjnDicLc6No/QjPxMaE4g5sQpi4kH49hVyF2jCgE+hI LXW30gkwxKNw4Fle2vIyUeEmwaCwVwXtc8OvM3km4MNZsn7KC+C4U0hB7ToRN6Wr4elc hmCrwBeJ4xaQU0Fc1zlYb7J6oV2Dp1EAD02uk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I94AX29RZ4Uhmw8hh/Q0n6dkicuGfmPm9dPcHHXHgwggCv6HNvsu08VttTkfLd8QcR JcbzILvgEeOA7EfRt3q1qQwUcRK4Cr51cF22QW33lFu82B0UZxAydrUc2oh+8Q9jo9ZX ofJ6SSnJTLrrZL7QbTIzWGdvsL2SEQ5mw0UHk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:43:39 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: komplete vs. ableton From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:43:40 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Would you mind elaborating a little bit on what Mainstage offers you that > Live does not, or, in any case, why you happen to prefer Mainstage? More CPU efficient. Snappier sync. Better sound. This is of course all related to the way I prefere to perform and not necessarily true for a a different performance strategy. So what's my strategy then? First I set a tempo for the entire rig system by my playing and first loop laid down in Mobius. This means MIDI clock and as I implied in the other post MIDI Clock is not an accurate sync but a sort of follow-try-to-catch-up where the slave application constantly flickers in tempo to catch up. I have had so many issues with Live when synced to MIDI Clock but still no problems with Mainstage as the sync slave (to Mobius). A DAW like Live is not designed to follow tempo sync given by a plug-in it is hosting. And I don't even use the advanced DAW functionality, that would be like asking for trouble. I only use the host for hosting Mobius and a bunch of tempo dependent plugins like tremolo, delay, harmonicer and LFO controlled filter bank. Plus reverb of course. And these type of functions is what Mainstage is all about - the sequence engine (from Logic) is stripped out to make it smaller and more stable. I can't see how I can elaborate on how something sounds better than something else? Just listen! Running loops through Mainstage (i.e. Logic's) compressors, EQ's, multiband compressor and limiter just sounds ok. Not so when running the same loops (Mobius catching live input) in Live. There's nothing to discuss or elaborate on, that simply is how I'm hearing it. As for the CPU efficiency, it has to understood to the background of how I use the rig. I like to keep a lot of alternative effect chains from one I call up one at a time to be placed between the audio input and the Mobius looper. You could call it that I use the host application as a virtual pedalboard. Again, this is what Mainstage was designed for, since all plugins used in all patches are preloaded into RAM as you boot the application. But when using the application only one patch at a time is active, although the sleeping patches still have there functionality allocated in the RAM for a kick start as you step the "next sound patch" button. Live was not designed with this in mind wich is obvious. Before Mainstage existed I ran into that bummer with Live and started using Bidule instead, where you can actually set up a multi patch performance rig very close to Mainstage. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 19:34:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CBB33BE82; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=7HrjlkWrxCOnlPmk4KqN4QhRXpZ5xOaXZ+/yLfXYs4E=; b=EBq53h+K/XrH7GdS4gbh9ziM8C67rF9KEgfXNft4aWHuvzwpWlh6c2yF/Fgn+E9rNl qHQ59mRPINLjrF/cFNwB7L3l2nG9dvat3YwGz1A11CBdrV5jfldyi7gO8+KltsZLS4Jh 3MdGVA+aTdq7zer+x5mS9sXuxwzuJ0yYw5zqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Eff5/VeFyudND49gUj0lwU9LtzO1ZdpN7P36KKTk+m9MUrcfKeOhCZ2vhtHqWeJiiP gsoreixDALxAO7hIrX60/oa+o04U3UWFUJZG/09e42F+U/ldFYa4ujmUJxGyxm/UKFTl TJJBUqFi0pBCe3cY0ygUJ9GMN/vkAmlXUuatc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:34:13 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e647627af5277904820432b0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:34:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e647627af5277904820432b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Who in here is successfully using Mainstage 2 with Mobius (other than Per:)) ? I feel bad I have already bugged Per enough with all my looping dilemmas. If anybody else has successfully setup Mainstage 2 in Mobius let me know so I can compare my Mobius and Mainstage settings. I wold like to at least be able to give Mainstage a shot before I move on to the next setup in hopes of having a working looper that suits me but I have logged about 20 hours so far of unsuccessful attempts. I'm in a real shitty mind space with looping because I have tried hardware and it sounds like shit to loop my double bass through with my combination pickup and instrument mic and on top of that I don't get the routing that laptop looping can provide........ but with laptop looping my attempts with Live 8 or Logic consists of crashes so I would never attempt to play out live with either one of those programs. Mainstage seems like the answer yet I can't get Mobius to work with it. I would like to use Mainstage or Bidule because I would like to have different channel strips with different EQ/compression/delay/reverb settings depending on if I'm playing pizz or arco or playing only harmonics or maybe only playing in thumb position or maybe only playing a low bass line etc. Mainstage or bidule works great for this type of setup yet Bidule seems to crash too much. Mobius is a great way to loop song style with chorus/verse/bridge section since you can copy the timing of your loops to other loops and overdub into them with the press of one button. I can use Mobius just fine in standalone mode and it's amazing. It sucks though that I'm spoiled with those looping features making it difficult to switch back to hardware. Maybe my best bet is to learn to program Max/MSP to host my different channel strips and send that audio into Mobius...... switching between the channel strips with program change messages kinda like in Bidule. Maybe that way at least I have some control over if it crashes. I can troubleshoot the problem myself and not have to wait an indefinite period of time for a fix from a software company. (end ranting :) ) PS. A a side note I was actually able to be productive with Logic. I just finished recording my first EP with a long time friend. It has gone through the mixing stage and is now being mastered. Recording in Logic was a complete joy. Never had one crash and many of Logic's features came to the rescue throughout the recording process. Now if I could be just as productive with looping as my recording workflow. --0016e647627af5277904820432b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who in here is successfully using Mainstage 2 with Mobius (other than Per:)= ) ? =A0I feel bad I have already bugged Per enough with all my looping dile= mmas.=A0

If anybody else has successfully setup Mainstag= e 2 in Mobius let me know so I can compare my Mobius and Mainstage settings= . I wold like to at least be able to give Mainstage a shot before I move on= to the next setup in hopes of having a working looper that suits me but=A0= I have logged about 20 hours so far of unsuccessful attempts.=A0

I'm in a real shitty mind space with looping b= ecause I have tried hardware and it sounds like shit to loop my double bass= through with my combination pickup and instrument mic and on top of that I= don't get the routing that laptop looping can provide........ but with= laptop looping my attempts with Live 8 or Logic consists of crashes so I w= ould never attempt to play out live with either one of those programs. Main= stage seems like the answer yet I can't get Mobius to work with it. I w= ould like to use Mainstage or Bidule because I would like to have different= channel strips with different EQ/compression/delay/reverb settings dependi= ng on if I'm playing pizz or arco or playing only harmonics or maybe on= ly playing in thumb position or maybe only playing a low bass line etc. Mai= nstage or bidule works great for this type of setup yet Bidule seems to cra= sh too much. Mobius is a great way to loop song style with chorus/verse/bri= dge section since you can copy the timing of your loops to other loops and = overdub into them with the press of one button. I can use Mobius just fine = in standalone mode and it's amazing. It sucks though that I'm spoil= ed with those looping features making it difficult to switch back to hardwa= re.


Maybe my best bet is to learn to p= rogram Max/MSP to host my different channel strips and send that audio into= Mobius...... switching between the channel strips with program change mess= ages kinda like in Bidule. Maybe that way at least I have some control over= if it crashes. I can troubleshoot the problem myself and not have to wait = an indefinite period of time for a fix from a software company.

(end ranting :) =A0)






PS. A a s= ide note I was actually able to be productive with Logic. I just finished r= ecording my first EP with a long time friend. It has gone through the mixin= g stage and is now being mastered. Recording in Logic was a complete joy. N= ever had one crash and many of Logic's features came to the rescue thro= ughout the recording process. Now if I could be just as productive with loo= ping as my recording workflow.
--0016e647627af5277904820432b0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 19:44:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9EAA3BE7F; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=99Hmt9PA78zZrVI7ow/uGdnIF58ZB/j0aY7D/ph4M5o=; b=TPTnP+FfuLD2RrhQYTkycjTmdax33/t+VqjA9PdxovHdh10pJfEEE6/XvJPIPJlJus f+DELhoy2tdrlGtIYwZGKYzL5MOv8sSQiOfA98m6pvoAU/osS84Gg8jTUuSQCHp3rWhV rTGlT7Nw/TZUS9dKPzW2nQwZC9QDus7XbP3GU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M6qA/uydAj4UszZJEZ1Z+9jVZgfQ4QzfS/ykzsoQ9bSgPNNbG8QM4lk7DQl1p98jvW dJKM91giJGLDSAsGurrtseclUl8KKah66/ik4XXnuaXBysAY+1DbnVdEy4D2WLxbd02m VpU6xHQzQ+4gyK20eVDEjbDn6dhI6k6WsVcyg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:44:05 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:44:06 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Mainstage or bidule works great for this type of setup Oh, I just remembered.... Maybe someone can find this Bidule tutorial helpful: http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542 I imagine it helps also for Mainstage or Ableton Live because in this Bidule screenshot you can clearly see the signal routing and the stages needed to pipe the master sync info from Mobius into the host (Live also needs you to ensure that certain functions are enabled by its preferences) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From mr_abu_ali7@voila.fr Wed Mar 17 19:46:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from n24.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (n24.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [87.248.110.141]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 064E53BE6F for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.182.180] by n24.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2010 19:46:07 -0000 Received: from [87.248.110.53] by t6.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2010 19:46:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2010 19:46:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 362809.43600.bm@omp105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 5856 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2010 19:46:07 -0000 Message-ID: <126036.4771.qm@web29111.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JJgarZIVM1mbhcqMMe2SqSJ.UkJ6oJ3NweexAftmORsykCp MclDAVwmwkiKVyeAO0TmqlQRkErMeBKxk2KdY4xy5fB5YsNqZz4SRdLaLGNs T6u6UtyKn5nrhAsS1YtItBbqqkMA2NL_Gcj9CoeqcWelV5bW7Qe6Ljed5Ym3 jiYEuIS6oB6gWDeTRwEo1J8.mtBE5BZB2FypZwIakT3vudx2a3_Nht_61X4z AwY502AS399qgk00gBI1kW0YJ8eF6P_3IPCnJ.7nHxRAVwO3G9KgA9gQuaGV CiJS0xg0QKZvh9EMw4y75hFciw0DDphjGyUhHEzzttpkQL8GS.TsKGJAoy0P hjy37RJlahjHwdPqCGL5Lij9Dbp99ouJs14zRfWj4KB7VsdzWSEBcKpJe4k4 8gl8dyRNiIF1IdqQLoDhNsrm5KmyAY2pq9fqZ2c2vbPGE1DKV92eQjvyNfRH ymQ_UYEQ9FS8tniQBuIHT5i3eSgfViZn1gGBE9GeVMVnFzM2OgbZ1CduU3nv HpUwgrnrYArnkO_3wJewOZG2AHOyJU9Ap36r3_n6kMNJgPmgBqtI6sriOgwU f8D82H2jGVy0UXb4P5pOpQoXzmfJU1ojz9NecHTFRbFpkr6cCMjizrHJ24b4 z457Fzo7AQQJ99aCQAvS.AEIFDadhpZl90Lc1xGsydb3PigYWUaFXgLIlmK5 PWpHaWJqoyd9dWaLPrxjYaCb.kOzkl70AxkGPCQ0TlzGSerSAA472mIL2mpV 864TM3wkWD_bKv48aEq3slpQ61MnE61DTvtS_Wwi5yjxFg06QQgBQXVQ4GAy esf8btVH8HmVlbtxLp_sjQnqeVMv_i.k4WdwAoss9elLA_3VJP358Ymp1j2v Kcvy1nNIp7S7QEBLPSNtNELRK7HPjJ3PZfgurtrDuBs7qmpl.Mc3pNmcABzs UjFpPV1fXCghydHX_6sNnzD7XQiU_h.42z7Rd4JaI3__zW9mUGgV7QZq0odp JwNuAl6nx_lblODgsw3w8XcOjSc0punwWFzcuqM.Vkqb_0IScu91ChuUPJTi MawPvdGJgz6BqIfPJ6ju3hZsFq27GsZ7thxO3HuisdL4hkElUEq4DbY4_YO0 0DjMnBwg8rIUPreHOEBKojOFXzVKsq8nK3mFPiKHjEYRXvsEjy12F8ll31_c f4IfirUpuV.lGcLoyKXo8H7okJc5xlQAsLZXDJB0IKz1s1AsL_UKJVacV4oY u0gMU73CVzI65uPHhB6SzLx43zCZmhcPcfTtd1pcaIOlrk_6zgsKc_Te8wwZ _dSs1RS76zW7ncv05izY3yAHJS3u54zaVZQ7u0uceOOidy8ZDn0ysVgJAdV9 Ta0nGqOIFhv6qx216Wq4hjLT2XSN6vi8cjUnKnGTQxsYCyJMHKxtDf93_pkl z5vPm4eQKoqCjL7G762vvQhzKSUBbwCdQz7qTQCCQKaKozP.uJio0RzCMy4. 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http://no.mail.yahoo.com --0-380207654-1268855167=:4771-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 20:25:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9953D3BE87; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y4EbETSqPetlu92iU3ICqZnduCE4cOfcyiHYzaAOleE=; b=cF2rea4VaU98+cYLZxk8h+Fzvgcnd6scyuT+AuLzgRnT2zzqhCsrLKo6DS4JcvUVOc qlEl1JtLij8JZgH5qyFPQkuN/SvNF3vqqDc6Ti6U8qt31vZPbh/0E54RGDcsh9/Y7PVV dec48uqQDK2RSNHU15Wl+EzQFT6rnWjmtpM4w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bwLsy8IlHIHvt+skhlmZgmSnC/KB3irBU0hvEk9wOAVng+tFYOxQYdXIFtD7fHSg15 iFvR8gMYjVN04fgA1rtt+03oBuVJjE8RYgLi3qibYQKdMg2LiNlS5/Frbz2/geXd5neC ywfCWE9tHneIVaduL1cM0R2L4W12n8Ww2rQi0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:25:36 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f451eab5394f048204ea82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:25:38 +0000 (UTC) --001485f451eab5394f048204ea82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just re read my email and I meant crashes with Live 8 and Bidule for crashes, not logic. Thanks for these tips Per. I'm pretty sure I have done these already off the top of my head but I will triple check to make sure once I finish making and consuming some delicious chicken tacos. Recap: Mobius settings: Sync = out Midi devices, Plugin out=IAC Bus 1 Set min and max tempo so Mobius picks a realistic tempo after your first loop. Mainstage: input channel (patch level) : outout set to Bus 1(aux1) Concert level - Add software instrument, select Mobius Set side chain to Bus 1 on mobius Concert level - Fetch tempo from midi input - IAC Bus1 I get input from Duet into Mainstage Goes from INput into Bus 1 Audio seems to get into Mainstage Issues: I do not hear any output from Mobius. If I switch to another track none of the Mobius functions work any longer.... rec, overdub They only work on Track 1. If anybody has any insight I would be eternally grateful!! I seem to be 'Looptarded.' Todd Matthews On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Todd Matthews > wrote: > > Mainstage or bidule works great for this type of setup > > > Oh, I just remembered.... Maybe someone can find this Bidule tutorial > helpful: > http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542 > > I imagine it helps also for Mainstage or Ableton Live because in this > Bidule screenshot you can clearly see the signal routing and the > stages needed to pipe the master sync info from Mobius into the host > (Live also needs you to ensure that certain functions are enabled by > its preferences) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --001485f451eab5394f048204ea82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just re read my email and I meant crashes with Live 8 and Bidule for cras= hes, not logic.=A0

Thanks for these tips Per. I'm pr= etty sure I have done these already off the top of my head but I will tripl= e check to make sure once I finish making and consuming some delicious chic= ken tacos.

Recap:
Mobius settings:
Sync =3D ou= t
Midi devices, Plugin out=3DIAC Bus 1
Set min and max = tempo so Mobius picks a realistic tempo after your first loop.
Mainstage:=A0
input channel (patch level) : outout set= to Bus 1(aux1)
Concert level - Add software instrument, select M= obius
Set side chain to Bus 1 on mobius
Concert level -= Fetch tempo from midi input - IAC Bus1



I get input from Duet int= o Mainstage
Goes from INput into Bus 1
Audio seems to g= et into Mainstage=A0

Issues:

I do not hear any output from Mobius.

If I sw= itch to another track none of the Mobius functions work any longer.... rec,= overdub
They only work on Track 1.



If anybody has any insight I would be eternal= ly grateful!! =A0I seem to be 'Looptarded.'=A0

=

Todd Matthews

= On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8= :34 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthew= s@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mainstage or bidule works great for this type of setup


Oh, I just remembered.... Maybe someone can find this Bidule tutorial= helpful:
http://= www.perboysen.com/archives/542

I imagine it helps also for Mainstage or Ableton Live because in this
Bidule screenshot you can clearly see the signal routing and the
stages needed to pipe the master sync info from Mobius into the host
(Live also needs you to ensure that certain functions are enabled by
its preferences)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


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Warning Code:VX2G99AAJ Webmail Support Team From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 21:45:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A71E73BE86; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=3jOx8yUSmT0mofadY0kit2l6UgH2gfev//+vCIBvz4s=; b=tBLSLD0+ijTzLGoZB8jX8zsugXgvv/cBTByr+824wqO+mcbeMftiPvxDdDuOt/YevR Y4MoXjsgpyy2AlQuFAv+hw6vJeOW3Y9wNk0LOCuqBYtrKY6rbeiTXFr/5Sb9om8E4kOT 4PKG/fOENR0gcCoi5WmUXVphLYkbBOHEwU4Lw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=OkgTgBvjD8lBcueQqPGd1t4SVipeHx3UAB9ZnFy98QOTt+rizfNEKVqTHaSfKb1mbw eVC2qsOLNltlwAryVM9bd7y7gzN2XUgorEuyRddcOyo/uYLL18rrqqLYxONys9rgJpUm o8+8VuY21Qm2YMtHPAjY+ycYEpXGawvGstfUE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:48:31 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6ED7B7B4-574F-4B9D-8A50-F205E9589FEE@gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:45:49 +0000 (UTC) > in this Bidule screenshot you can clearly see the signal routing and = the > stages needed to pipe the master sync info from Mobius into the host Sounds great. I don't see the screen shot though. FYI, There's a place = for an image the text flows around but no actual image... tried a 2nd = browser just in case. It's just white... there's something there though, = it's not missing because I can right click on it and save as if I wanted = too. =20 Please let us know when it's up... screen shots are very, very useful! = Thank you! On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: >> Mainstage or bidule works great for this type of setup >=20 >=20 > Oh, I just remembered.... Maybe someone can find this Bidule tutorial = helpful: > http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542 >=20 > I imagine it helps also for Mainstage or Ableton Live because in this > Bidule screenshot you can clearly see the signal routing and the > stages needed to pipe the master sync info from Mobius into the host > (Live also needs you to ensure that certain functions are enabled by > its preferences) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 21:46:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8F1C3BE89; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oYa1G5RdNWaD0stBwzQDQwx3ubpAciEHCMdcTYn4T8o=; b=v6rK3l3tjvG9eAtIdYxa+Jb6jgOzSRCGeW4S8fX5rZM05BoCmNdqBGnbtN5SHP8vad NWF5oYSsRU0dLxN3IFRRkRbTA0YER1ZwrzkCK7o93br6dJ0pUA8TCOGo11mC0XUyhEs3 S4vupiitYbyBP+82gLweTq0llnB/5ywrbtZAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qtWwpt30JqH3GfL3xpzsDMakzUvpFYRMRNvw3sfig597CXaKmhy5knxKBTpng+GgFS tGNw+x0Dxq3T6wZe+BgXid6x+K3gYjFeCmOmJJqRrZ5mKCRlGojfR0QqNIquc09+9k6m 9MBSz5UuWKM4g9UuzTE066CoyeeGAlse+NyOM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <657EC3B9-F99E-4BDB-9E2E-D8E7C45493E6@gmail.com> References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171232u27d53cb4q281baa222f791564@mail.gmail.com> <657EC3B9-F99E-4BDB-9E2E-D8E7C45493E6@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:46:01 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003171446u4e2edbb0mfa667ceddf70c851@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MainStage with Mobius (was) Re: komplete vs. ableton From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:46:02 +0000 (UTC) > (I didn't know if Mainstage or Mobious had sessions that someone else could open > and use like a template, like Live and Bidule.) Oh, they sure do have that, but setting up the MIDI Clock sync between applications on a Mac is rather about adjusting the global preferences for both the host and the Mobius looper plugin. And (3) make sure the IAC Bus is enabled on in OS X. I forgot to mention step 3 I'm afraid, but you do that on the Mac at "Applications/Utilities/Audio MIDI Setup.app" Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 21:48:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B57513BE82; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cDWM8YfGpU0g8O1YUx+CeH6bY9cNA/nRmQwTvOJ0Pvg=; b=c112yOykUWvydOdrPcgP8hKJNSLh93KXHNQmB59AzjVzDKYw/6T+8zy4Sd20M5tPDc sv7DAevFkJHF8ZXmIUr8K8LY67ndvzt/ExYKkO7FVoaA5dofFELeB5SOaah64OaiA7DI lPPR7nyAoTx22q/r3UTi/Azj14nZS8fvjEqgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=G0D+vA2jgAgS0p687a1+qJkOxh6uRGOD4IqyXvsrrEvGlt87RoeBHeeKaBaRDbGFj1 08Nif/VYOJi5v2cMwdBfgn8On4KIcR/88AuyKEkGXV2zGVJcohQA108EHzWuX6WvWIwN aAQCKUWC6KqLz9otzBwC0YEsKjeT7fjT1j6VU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: essejlc@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:48:54 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b1d0a9e9edfd38b7 Message-ID: Subject: iphone loopers in the app store From: Jesse Chappell To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <54ebmD.A.JOC.H5UoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Both ThumbJam and Everyday Looper are currently featured on the App Store front page in the US. Apple has good taste this week :) jlc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 22:02:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 903A73BE84; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AQIg BaL2 BmLF B9TU CIie CJcY CPg8 DpzC EFjA EPDz Flc0 GJlV GVqc GbNT HcTU H7F/;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{9215A50E-7245-491B-9B13-C98592FBE879};YQBvAHYAaQBsAEAAdwBmAHUAYgBtAGMALgBlAGQAdQA=;Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:36:26 GMT;SABvAHcAIABkAG8AIABJACAAZwBlAHQAIAB0AGgAZQAgAG0AbwBzAHQAIABvAHUAdAAgAG8AZgAgAG0AeQAgAHQAdwBvACAARQBEAFAAJwBzAD8A MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAC61A.26773E0B" x-cr-puzzleid: {9215A50E-7245-491B-9B13-C98592FBE879} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: How do I get the most out of my two EDP's? Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:36:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: How do I get the most out of my two EDP's? Thread-Index: AcrGGeYJcB5yxLKtSCSgsCGOv5advQ== From: "Ace Ovil" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:02:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC61A.26773E0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I feel very fortunate to have a found a great deal on a second EDP which I have been eyeballing for a while. So....happy new looper day to me I guess. I am a multi instrumentalist and I play more rhythmic (rather than ambient) one-man-band stuff. My original plan was to run them in the stereo effects loop of a mixer and get a small PA of some kind to solve the annoying bleed problems I get with the bass amp, guitar amp etc. I figured I could also loop vocals this way which could really add to my act. =20 The EDP arrived today and I'm embarrassed to say I don't know how to set it up in stereo yet and have never actually done anything midi related before (I am a musical neanderthal). I am currently investigating the manual though and one of the things that came up in my reading is the brother sync feature. I had not read this section before because I had no need to do anything more than use the foot controller that came with my first plex. I'm starting to think that maybe I'm limiting myself with this effect-loop stereo idea so I thought I would seek some inspiration and advice from the gurus here. I only have one foot controller at this point, but I'm willing to try buy another one or take the midi foot-controller plunge if there is a good reason to do so. What are the advantages of brother sync over a midi synced stereo setup ? =20 Could someone please shed some light on what things are possible with two echoplexes that were not possible with one? Also, does anyone have recommendations on a reasonably priced and portable small PA that can handle my whole "band" (electric bass, upright bass, hand percussion, turntable, electric guitar, acoustic guitar and sometimes sax) at about twin reverb volume? (small bars and coffee shops). I like the Bose L1 but it seems pretty pricey for what it is and sort of defeats the idea of going stereo. =20 I already have a mixer I like (mackie 1202-vlz pro) if that influences your recommendation. Thank you in advance, Ace =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC61A.26773E0B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi everyone,

I feel very fortunate to have a found a great deal = on a second EDP which I have been eyeballing for a while. So….happy new = looper day to me I guess.

I am a multi instrumentalist  and I play more = rhythmic (rather than ambient) one-man-band stuff. My  original plan was to run them = in the stereo effects loop of a mixer and get a small PA of some kind to solve = the annoying bleed problems I get with the bass amp, guitar amp etc. I = figured I could also loop vocals this way which could really add to my act. =  

The EDP arrived today and I’m embarrassed to = say I don’t know how to set it up in stereo yet and have never actually done = anything midi related before (I am a musical neanderthal). I am currently = investigating the manual though and one of the things that came up in my reading is the = brother sync feature. I had not read this section before because I had no need = to do anything more than use the foot controller that came with my first = plex.

I’m starting to think that maybe I’m = limiting myself with this effect-loop stereo idea so I thought I would seek some = inspiration and advice from the gurus here.

I only have one foot controller at this point, but = I’m willing to try buy another one or take the midi foot-controller plunge = if there is a good reason to do so.

What are the advantages of brother sync over a midi = synced stereo setup ?  

Could someone please shed some light on what things = are possible with two echoplexes that were not possible with one?

Also, does anyone have recommendations on a = reasonably priced and portable small PA that can handle my whole “band” = (electric bass, upright bass, hand percussion, turntable, electric guitar, = acoustic guitar and sometimes sax) at about twin reverb volume? (small bars and = coffee shops). I like the Bose L1 but it seems pretty pricey for what it is and = sort of defeats the idea of going stereo.  

I already have a mixer I like (mackie 1202-vlz pro) = if that influences your recommendation.

Thank you in advance,

Ace

  

------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC61A.26773E0B-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 22:02:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DC953BE89; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mbqEthvv16N5qVeu/8afc/NYdYpv03YyGgnMQP3P0ws=; b=X01GqwGqSW4gAVdkLL8kS+tLXiZIGbuTUZMdqtm8SNhwh2yVu3K+Dfm8hmz17mHcju m6yVieJILzVmijstttZfbUkGZdP/qSFq1ixqKsjpyaWploOw06mWl7QacaNfxHScuWdU 6fGWPSwrU5iPmHg9PWcDd5GNYb4FaUuAX5nyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oE8re0YEG7s4Gz9Q3kvw+WfZp8zVI2S3D1MXiXm7sYNAUrWsAtCUmZYAPxjJ8TdHKc I06NqQyKp9D/zMaG7XBynd7mcBuXlni9svJljr+w2RN/hDrjZI+opwXAT+bqxnj2iZKA OR3qlOEbg2r9a+vIOJMLKPE3f7VE/x3AGpLeM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:02:47 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003171502x2e2148bfn8f4266515fac3780@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Thanks for these tips Per. I'm pretty sure I have done these already off the > top of my head but I will triple check to make sure once I finish making and > consuming some delicious chicken tacos. > Recap: > Mobius settings: > Sync = out > Midi devices, Plugin out=IAC Bus 1 > Set min and max tempo so Mobius picks a realistic tempo after your first > loop. > Mainstage: > input channel (patch level) : outout set to Bus 1(aux1) > Concert level - Add software instrument, select Mobius > Set side chain to Bus 1 on mobius > Concert level - Fetch tempo from midi input - IAC Bus1 > > > I get input from Duet into Mainstage > Goes from INput into Bus 1 > Audio seems to get into Mainstage > Issues: > I do not hear any output from Mobius. There should not be any sound if do not have "Monitor Audio Input" enabled in Mobius. Path: "Configuration/Global Parameters". However, my preferred solution is different. I create - in Mainstage on concert level - an aux channel with input "Bus 1" an output "Main". And I keep Mobius set to no audio through, only mangled loopse is coming out from Mobius. That way my instrument's live input sound is cloned into two paths: one going into Mobius (to maybe get looped) and the other passing directly to the output. The technical reason for this choice is that I run the Mobius output through first a low cut filter and then a tape delay plugin. The low cut filter is needed because I mangle loops a lot and if a layer is overdubbed when a loop is transposed up by two octave it can easily blow the PA speakers if that loop later is played transformed two octaves down ;-)) And the tape delay is used for dub style effet tweaking and when I do that I don't want the slaps on my live instrument when playing against the dub stuff. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 22:03:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7D0B3BE82; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_acf68b71-0032-420c-a653-31c29f827fbe_" X-Originating-IP: [68.41.80.161] Reply-To: From: Ryan & Kara To: Subject: EDP droool.... Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:03:16 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003171446u4e2edbb0mfa667ceddf70c851@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com>,<66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com>,,<66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com>,,<66f9cc1e1003171232u27d53cb4q281baa222f791564@mail.gmail.com>,<657EC3B9-F99E-4BDB-9E2E-D8E7C45493E6@gmail.com>,<66f9cc1e1003171446u4e2edbb0mfa667ceddf70c851@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2010 22:03:17.0236 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5DA0340:01CAC61D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:03:18 +0000 (UTC) --_acf68b71-0032-420c-a653-31c29f827fbe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a white EDP with loopIV on ebay right now for $499 BIN. Wish I had = the cash. =20 Instead I just bought a Behringer 202 audio interface. I figured for $31 ev= en I can just plug my tube preamps into this and set that into Mobius on an= y laptop. =20 Now to learn Mobius.. :)=20 =20 Thanks for the advice all. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your = inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2= --_acf68b71-0032-420c-a653-31c29f827fbe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There's a white EDP with loopIV on ebay right now for $499 BIN. Wish I = had the cash.
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Instead I just =3Bbought a Behringer 202 audio interface. I figured for= $31 even I can just plug my tube preamps into this and set that into Mobiu= s on any laptop.
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Thanks for the advice all.

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Sign up now. = --_acf68b71-0032-420c-a653-31c29f827fbe_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 22:14:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5AA73BE8E; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9WzEbhxwCyjmQX1GPrdaYWp72IdHZK6CwLClA03Kd9w=; b=sHTCQkpeQz9+2jTTwTcDxplLJfkO0L1q5UkRfMynfJY0dAeFiSi0Z16SsQF91T7lOj aGsj3/EXIxvmBWlKo3Bz0TFFMGng9OKWweAsuzsxPSfoRX/mQSgc/m1AaIFCks4YHOpr bHJX4Rf+vR+E/XlyC4WHf7fvtmiN7ZPYsJh+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wYNguUQxlRFp7k1weRJnFXz1sYKtSk3QdjgTPwXXBEEjIOBaamAbzQgNYQwn/SGc7R mFrL0dYlDYcCYCP/pzFO6cGn3hlhE1BDLxyjj9/IAF88huzkUQ4t8K/DHTfzNXyQqtP9 l9nTV8ZId0h9AQuWLX8PPpTBHthoN6X5Gy6pM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:14:23 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003171514j6cd5269eu367aa1948e8a5123@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Bidule screenshot now fixed (Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:14:26 +0000 (UTC) >> Oh, I just remembered.... Maybe someone can find this Bidule tutorial helpful: >> http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542 >> in this Bidule screenshot you can clearly see the signal routing and the >> stages needed to pipe the master sync info from Mobius into the host On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > Sounds great. I don't see the screen shot though. FYI, /// > Please let us know when it's up... screen shots are very, very useful! Thank you! Oops, thanks for pointing it out, Christopher! I have fixed the screenshot now. It was linked to an image on the Mobius forum and if you are not logged in there your browser can't display the picture. I just copied it to my public web server, so it should work for anyone browsing the internet. Guess I learned something useful there ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 22:21:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9DA83BE97; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KIuse6Sl0MQLQa9MeQz/ntu25Mk68TEEuN+gZOUpfs0=; b=S9FQCj6C61qr7pmo0pLalb34ASLyTpkbfwsps1OFTaePMg1FhocqLWxUiQkyFs2r9P skWPBGD4fEIF1ZpyYqbO5M0i4uzR4/qDXrCgG4IYYohtO9QaZV9OgBfH6PE6n7NYsc5r H28Q933YLhgOviCfevX3uZMrYqWY1jy+SL1oU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IKA83CS1gETq30vJs9+SHDckwQKUX+BjdmWUBoMLRUhzZ1u8nRIzRnTkkdwzeaEm/w 0EgknMuVTcQ4UZx3wb2IXuCwhI4Y/RHm/f2gTgPH9JzIBmmC+RKD9rIKJCih4whPeSgo Le98OFXA/iTaNqp03mRoYarHxmKjhoFQ5tKZA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:21:18 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003171521j6d19435aif465feff754ba1e5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: iphone loopers in the app store From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:21:19 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Jesse Chappell wrote: > Both ThumbJam and Everyday Looper are currently featured on the App > Store front page in the US. > Apple has good taste this week :) A-lotta-bunches-o-congrats ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 22:24:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECFF43BEBE; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BA156AD.6030703@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:24:45 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth mod Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Ted wrote: "I'm also splitting my signal and running two parrallel chains, one mostly straight (DL4, reverb, distortion) and the other not (DL4, DAED-modded DS-1, pitch shifter, etc.) with the latter having a volume pedal at the end so I can bring it up and down." I'm so glad that you mentioned the DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth which is a mod of the Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal. This is one of the coolest pedals I own (and I own a lot) and it's made by one of our own, David at Disagreeable Auditory Experience Designs (the definition of noise, btw). It has a lot of versatility and a lot of insane randomness in it and it's really, really cheap considering (he'll mod an existing Boss DS-1 which are available for $40 brand new these days) for a mere $50. I have a 'experienced' a lot of boutique distortion pedals and this is one of the best and cheapest. Also, I have to say that it doesn't not destroy the DS-1 to have the mod done. You can still use it conventionally as a DS-1 distortion stomp box. I'm saving up right now to get one of his Juicy Wahs, his mod of a CryBaby wah wah pedal A very creative fellow and, as I say, one of our own. He's at http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/daed.htm if anyone is into beautiful noisy ways of manipulating their loops. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 22:30:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1044E3BEDD; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=kWOTaxZxUfsIljlqJhfZcjKDN+eydt1RlUHATfwntLg=; b=mKqouYiPkLF9+eVd23FUxb4UOpSqhSbGjpvapxPVsQauO+pi5AYbXye4ECIb/UjqO6 wzEZmRn8C+dVpAEBu+dNBg4VhL+YU3DjOaziPI+XLHoizG2JpupWrbAPR4B0Hpe8mxp+ Diy/g3R+KSqyRuGQ6Bi/PoBdoneSg+qpW7lA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=I1F8MR/g1mz4bB10fgrautiS90JXPeEn3DstW5l+J8Fj/cvFz6n5j3x0BKC+Y/uzli RfGqJeLj7kt5d1dWj4KCfY9gwbCVT4tI/G+zt4+NhH1V+uy6Rc+Tedpr0OzQexsuL9qK hUl+XDwBV8bFZySiywtFzSEtWoIsNa3CX5teM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:29:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ed9e887283b400e6 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003171529r3030f930m6b32aa63b1a38527@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How do I get the most out of my two EDP's? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d602abe259048206a784 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:30:03 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0d602abe259048206a784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure Ace. Brother Sync is the way to go, as the second EDP will be rock solid with th= e first, however Im using them as 2 seperate beasts, and the second doesnt record till i tell it to, I believe there is a way to have them act simultaneously, as if they were in Stereo. But Yes I think you are limittin= g yourself. Unless your signal is REALLY STEREO!!! Mine isnt, but I still hav= e my 2 edp panned a bit left and right, then I jump up and down on the to different insert buttons and sen snippets of sound to left and right.. much like the tracks that Andy just posted, except in stereo.. there SO much you can do with 2... like play 3 bars on one and 5 bars on the tother... or if your edps are sent from sends, then have no feedback, switch on the overdub and SEND instead.. be carful, but then you can bounce your different lengthed loops into each other loopers. If you can send midi to both you ca= n program your foot switching ( I use a really BAD dummachin for this the Bos= s DR202, the advantage is that it can send on 3 different midi channels. the drum patterns, the "basline" and an "External Instument" . I have the bassling and the Extenal Instrument programed with "notes" that I know "do stuff" on the edps.. and play .. I dont even have to hear the drum machine, the rythym becomes obvious... There too much to do actually... Have fun and good luck... M On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Ace Ovil wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I feel very fortunate to have a found a great deal on a second EDP which = I > have been eyeballing for a while. So=85.happy new looper day to me I gues= s. > > I am a multi instrumentalist and I play more rhythmic (rather than > ambient) one-man-band stuff. My original plan was to run them in the ste= reo > effects loop of a mixer and get a small PA of some kind to solve the > annoying bleed problems I get with the bass amp, guitar amp etc. I figure= d I > could also loop vocals this way which could really add to my act. > > The EDP arrived today and I=92m embarrassed to say I don=92t know how to = set it > up in stereo yet and have never actually done anything midi related befor= e > (I am a musical neanderthal). I am currently investigating the manual tho= ugh > and one of the things that came up in my reading is the brother sync > feature. I had not read this section before because I had no need to do > anything more than use the foot controller that came with my first plex. > > I=92m starting to think that maybe I=92m limiting myself with this effect= -loop > stereo idea so I thought I would seek some inspiration and advice from th= e > gurus here. > > I only have one foot controller at this point, but I=92m willing to try b= uy > another one or take the midi foot-controller plunge if there is a good > reason to do so. > > What are the advantages of brother sync over a midi synced stereo setup ? > > Could someone please shed some light on what things are possible with two > echoplexes that were not possible with one? > > Also, does anyone have recommendations on a reasonably priced and portabl= e > small PA that can handle my whole =93band=94 (electric bass, upright bass= , hand > percussion, turntable, electric guitar, acoustic guitar and sometimes sax= ) > at about twin reverb volume? (small bars and coffee shops). I like the Bo= se > L1 but it seems pretty pricey for what it is and sort of defeats the idea= of > going stereo. > > I already have a mixer I like (mackie 1202-vlz pro) if that influences yo= ur > recommendation. > > Thank you in advance, > > Ace > > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0d602abe259048206a784 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure Ace.
Brother Sync is the way to go, as the second EDP will be rock = solid with the first, however Im using them as 2 seperate beasts, and the s= econd doesnt record till i tell it to, I believe there is a way to have the= m act simultaneously, as if they were in Stereo. But Yes I think you are li= mitting yourself. Unless your signal is REALLY STEREO!!! Mine isnt, but I s= till have my 2 edp panned a bit left and right, then I jump up and down on = the to different insert buttons and sen snippets of sound to left and right= .. much like the tracks that Andy just posted, except in stereo.. there SO = much you can do with 2... like play 3 bars on one and 5 bars on the tother.= .. or if your edps are sent from sends, then have no feedback, switch on th= e overdub and SEND instead.. be carful, but then you can bounce your differ= ent lengthed loops into each other loopers. If you can send midi to both yo= u can program your foot switching ( I use a really BAD dummachin for this t= he Boss DR202, the advantage is that it can send on 3 different midi channe= ls. the drum patterns, the "basline" and an "External Instum= ent" . I have the bassling and the Extenal Instrument programed with &= quot;notes" that I know "do stuff" on the edps.. and play ..= I dont even have to hear the drum machine, the rythym becomes obvious...
There too much to do actually...

Have fun and good luck...
M



On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36= PM, Ace Ovil <aov= il@wfubmc.edu> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I feel very fortunate to have a found a great deal o= n a second EDP which I have been eyeballing for a while. So=85.happy new looper day to me I guess.

I am a multi instrumentalist =A0and I play more rhyt= hmic (rather than ambient) one-man-band stuff. My =A0original plan was to run them in th= e stereo effects loop of a mixer and get a small PA of some kind to solve the annoying bleed problems I get with the bass amp, guitar amp etc. I figured = I could also loop vocals this way which could really add to my act. =A0

The EDP arrived today and I=92m embarrassed to say I= don=92t know how to set it up in stereo yet and have never actually done anything m= idi related before (I am a musical neanderthal). I am currently investigating t= he manual though and one of the things that came up in my reading is the broth= er sync feature. I had not read this section before because I had no need to d= o anything more than use the foot controller that came with my first plex.

I=92m starting to think that maybe I=92m limiting myself with this effect-loop stereo idea so I thought I would seek some ins= piration and advice from the gurus here.

I only have one foot controller at this point, but I= =92m willing to try buy another one or take the midi foot-controller plunge if t= here is a good reason to do so.

What are the advantages of brother sync over a midi = synced stereo setup ? =A0

Could someone please shed some light on what things = are possible with two echoplexes that were not possible with one?

Also, does anyone have recommendations on a reasonab= ly priced and portable small PA that can handle my whole =93band=94 (electric bass, upright bass, hand percussion, turntable, electric guitar, acoustic guitar and sometimes sax) at about twin reverb volume? (small bars and coff= ee shops). I like the Bose L1 but it seems pretty pricey for what it is and so= rt of defeats the idea of going stereo. =A0

I already have a mixer I like (mackie 1202-vlz pro) = if that influences your recommendation.

Thank you in advance,

Ace

=A0=A0




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--000e0ce0d602abe259048206a784-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 22:30:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2CC43BEEA; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1268865009; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=aaQgTKSsr+u2I3W2pJ39/2LwriU=; b=Vyx+2MDoYjdsKdHD3m6LS3UC+m+e7wWUYNgd8VaL4z1sMyjD1Gco+D0VlfJ5Jj9M mGpVP2p0Qrlg7vxXg2Ku4Gv17KHPMachayKvP7NCF+RvVkETWEPSSOUWPvzf6K8d; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=sYm9aI3A7Z2zkeaKQORAwJsDCQoBMmjs1Q6Qkr236ZM= c=1 sm=0 a=d_647808PMMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=cZDa+RBQjCUyhmE4giN6GQ==:17 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=t3dj7CPdAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=l0KemTF-C8k5wy_0UKkA:9 a=AMB2YEZ6yp9SWaXrBiAA:7 a=1Dokv6V-z4T2m8bYkj2aaO5EZ2QA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=N8ucj5JuzmUA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cZDa+RBQjCUyhmE4giN6GQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <004601cac621$650c3640$25f23747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4BA156AD.6030703@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth mod Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:30:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:30:10 +0000 (UTC) >if anyone is into beautiful noisy ways of manipulating their loops. Anyone like that around here? lol I am looking into that! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: OT DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth mod > Ted wrote: > "I'm also splitting my signal and running two parrallel chains, one > mostly straight (DL4, reverb, distortion) and the other not (DL4, > DAED-modded DS-1, pitch shifter, etc.) with the latter having a volume > pedal at the end so I can bring it up and down." > > > I'm so glad that you mentioned the DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth > which is a mod of the Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal. > > This is one of the coolest pedals I own (and I own a lot) and it's made > by one of our own, > David at Disagreeable Auditory Experience Designs (the definition of > noise, btw). > > It has a lot of versatility and a lot of insane randomness in it and > it's really, really cheap > considering (he'll mod an existing Boss DS-1 which are available for > $40 brand new these days) > for a mere $50. > > I have a 'experienced' a lot of boutique distortion pedals and this is > one of the best and cheapest. > Also, I have to say that it doesn't not destroy the DS-1 to have the mod > done. You can still use > it conventionally as a DS-1 distortion stomp box. > > I'm saving up right now to get one of his Juicy Wahs, his mod of a > CryBaby wah wah pedal > > A very creative fellow and, as I say, one of our own. > > He's at > http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/daed.htm > > if anyone is into beautiful noisy ways of manipulating their loops. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2751 - Release Date: 03/16/10 19:33:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 23:00:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52EB33BE97; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 492 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:00:53 UTC Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:52:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Ancient Eyeball Recipe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <2007920433.5403411268866361845.JavaMail.root@sz0017a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <004601cac621$650c3640$25f23747@tbl01fcf9be917> Subject: Re: OT DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth mod MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_286162_1564318601.1268866361845" X-Originating-IP: [198.96.172.5] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.19_GA_3172.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE6 (Win)/5.0.19_GA_3177.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:00:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_286162_1564318601.1268866361845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have one of these that I don't use, and will take a reasonable offer.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jeff Duke" =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:30:06 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific=20 Subject: Re: OT =C2=A0DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth mod=20 >if anyone is into beautiful noisy ways of manipulating their loops.=20 Anyone like that around here? lol=20 I am looking into that!=20 Jeff=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Rick Walker" =20 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" =20 Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:24 PM=20 Subject: OT DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth mod=20 > Ted wrote:=20 > "I'm also splitting my signal and running two parrallel chains, one=20 > mostly straight (DL4, reverb, distortion) and the other not (DL4,=20 > DAED-modded DS-1, pitch shifter, etc.) =C2=A0with the latter having a vol= ume=20 > pedal at the end so I can bring it up and down."=20 >=20 >=20 > I'm so glad that you mentioned the DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth=20 > which is a mod of the Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal.=20 >=20 > This is one of the coolest pedals I own (and I own a lot) and it's made= =20 > by one of our own,=20 > David at Disagreeable Auditory Experience Designs =C2=A0(the definition o= f=20 > noise, btw).=20 >=20 > It has a lot of versatility and a lot of insane randomness in it and=20 > it's really, really cheap=20 > considering =C2=A0(he'll mod an existing Boss DS-1 which are available fo= r=20 > $40 brand new these days)=20 > for a mere $50.=20 >=20 > I have a 'experienced' a lot of boutique distortion pedals and this is=20 > one of the best and cheapest.=20 > Also, I have to say that it doesn't not destroy the DS-1 to have the mod= =20 > done. =C2=A0You can still use=20 > it conventionally as a DS-1 distortion stomp box.=20 >=20 > I'm saving up right now to get one of his Juicy Wahs, =C2=A0his mod of a= =20 > CryBaby wah wah pedal=20 >=20 > A very creative fellow and, as I say, =C2=A0 one of our own.=20 >=20 > He's at=20 > http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/daed.htm=20 >=20 > if anyone is into beautiful noisy ways of manipulating their loops.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----=20 No virus found in this incoming message.=20 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2751 - Release Date: 03/16/10=20 19:33:00=20 ------=_Part_286162_1564318601.1268866361845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I have on= e of these that I don't use, and will take a reasonable offer.
----- Ori= ginal Message -----
From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3= :30:06 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: OT  DAED Distur= bo DS-1 Distortion Synth mod

>if anyone is into beautiful noisy w= ays of manipulating their loops.

Anyone like that around here? lol
I am looking into that!

Jeff

----- Original Message ---= --
From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: "LOOPERS DELI= GHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesd= ay, March 17, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: OT DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Syn= th mod


> Ted wrote:
> "I'm also splitting my signal and= running two parrallel chains, one
> mostly straight (DL4, reverb, di= stortion) and the other not (DL4,
> DAED-modded DS-1, pitch shifter, = etc.)  with the latter having a volume
> pedal at the end so I c= an bring it up and down."
>
>
> I'm so glad that you ment= ioned the DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synth
> which is a mod of the= Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal.
>
> This is one of the coolest ped= als I own (and I own a lot) and it's made
> by one of our own,
>= ; David at Disagreeable Auditory Experience Designs  (the definition o= f
> noise, btw).
>
> It has a lot of versatility and a lo= t of insane randomness in it and
> it's really, really cheap
> = considering  (he'll mod an existing Boss DS-1 which are available for<= BR>> $40 brand new these days)
> for a mere $50.
>
> I= have a 'experienced' a lot of boutique distortion pedals and this is
&g= t; one of the best and cheapest.
> Also, I have to say that it doesn'= t not destroy the DS-1 to have the mod
> done.  You can still us= e
> it conventionally as a DS-1 distortion stomp box.
>
>= I'm saving up right now to get one of his Juicy Wahs,  his mod of a> CryBaby wah wah pedal
>
> A very creative fellow and, as= I say,   one of our own.
>
> He's at
> http://www.h= elpwantedproductions.com/daed.htm
>
> if anyone is into beautif= ul noisy ways of manipulating their loops.
>
>
>

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------=_Part_286162_1564318601.1268866361845-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 23:23:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEAFE3BEC9; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1306 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:23:11 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=kRq7UHMohqnwmmuxaasA:9 a=Nx66JI4XW9PikImaYSPFHtRVweYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <22D4D5B0-ED37-4092-9D4E-02C33FDCA4DF@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: FYI: EZbus mixer for sale on ebay Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:55:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:23:11 +0000 (UTC) This is good deal on a very useful multi-function device, even if only used as a digital/analog mixer/sub-mixer/MIDI control surface. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150424694608&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_2169wt_1167 Sorry for the interruption; thanks! dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 17 23:47:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 983073BEDD; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268868119; bh=GR1yN77G5fyVr+KqxcH/1Iu3DIr6cCzDLUrXHktJ0jA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MXmRjWZvC9zFKaFsHZx9asugd0Gi9l03iMRm0NLid9jmRC8bjlEFKKp+FlNmt1hGY3h9dmV0nFjhewPuWRfYoSoFci1q5S8CQ/g1WLFyD9iynbtenpVJEIdfR2G4iZwkFPu4gnYsOPanV17iE0QAlazIhHO+eDdZUgf+aC7rZko= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4i1nrd2C4ahb5bOb1O1zdfRGH8EUOXo+RsQ5HJTdNartd4jzBGamY7W+N0/eAumSQ9xQz52cfYGx+PI03Rz2qoE+6JNyoWimnFAMzi6MYVEqoy2S/BqR0R4jsq3mqxQLF0s340tSI1Q8pfaiCuzvfWd0xiteatlw5MiYqZCgUns=; Message-ID: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XFE4J3MVM1mXtRHwZehGEJxzxciCMcDoDOOnFOPprOgevmT l5aF8nU0KBWFkGFjlXlDAWYn6qlyR91FD6SEwi_SjKLWbXsTkIQkfW7lWvyt RCeCfWf5p9cZIxtt138ecgdl8gwEcJJ2Yqiuhhoq9ihQks0CTpsgGTZpQIHJ 8yqsuG5cBuH.jxa4ZPY4OBTMyY.LVqF0z6v53wTRENo_dVow_eLvhDZFyySW wZDj7yQ8uWlxKvb5b4Ip0nzYqWVo7CgC0bW0bpyAqs_e4t7H28xAgieYPc1J 4Na8s75OGTltYhHtxEcOT2x1udGb.Ssx9hmBrPUUX6L.OY80HZiEUWQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:21:58 -0700 (PDT) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: LD CD IV - The Participants To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com, mech2@m3ch.net, tedkillian@charter.net, eterogenus@gmail.com, bigtonyk@gmail.com, antonyhequet@yahoo.com, info@andybutler.com, sinsofmachaut@gmail.com, David K , loafcitious@gmail.com, looppool@cruzio.com, unstrungone@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-382681869-1268868118=:72624" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:47:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-382681869-1268868118=:72624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello - =0A=A0=0AYesterday I proposed creating another Loopers-Delight comp= ilation CD, gathering examples of our Looping music.=0AToday we have a full= roster of participants!=0A=A0=0ATHE LD CD IV TEAM=0A1. Matt Stevens=0A2. D= uke Sexton=0A3. Ted Killian=0A4. fabio=0A5. Tony K=0A6. Antony Hequet=0A7. = Andy Butler=0A8. Dennis Moser=0A9. Edward Yuhas=0A10. Andy G=0A11. Rick Wal= ker=0A12. David Kirkdorffer=0A=A0=0AThe basic details will be no surprise: = =0A- 12 particpants each submit 1 track no longer than=A06 minutes.=0A- Ple= ase consider the track submitted 100% finished as far as you are concerned.= =0A- All costs for preparation and production of 1000 shrink-wrapped CDs wi= th 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases are to be divided among the 12 part= icipants.=0A- All 1000 CDs to be divided among the 12 participants (so 80 C= D's each).=0A- Delivery costs will be charged based on mailing costs (from = Boston, MA) to participants' addresses. =0A=A0=0AI propose using the follow= ing service for CD production: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/=A0=0AThey'= ve done great work for me for my own UNDO CDs.=0A=A0=0AWhat will this cost = me?=0AFinal costs to be commnicated, but expect to pay something in the $20= 0 dollar range, not including postage delivery of your CDs.=0AI have used s= ome top-flight mastering in the past for 12 other CDs I've produced: http:/= /www.peerlessmastering.com/.=A0 I want to master the collection to ensure t= he collected music plays well together. However, to keep costs down, I know= another option I can use that I believe will work great and not cost us an= ything. Stay tuned.=0A=A0=0AWhat will I get?=0A1. Each participant wil rece= ive 80=A0shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases.=0A2.= Depending on if everyone agrees, I can also arrange electronic distributio= n for this CD through IODA: http://www.iodalliance.com/. However, that brin= gs up the question of distribution of any sales income (which I'm happy to = do for 24 months).=0A=A0=0AAre their any restrictions on the music?=0A1. Pl= ease do not submit anything that contains ANY samples of other people's wor= k.=0A2. Please do not submit anything that contains profane language. :-)= =0A=A0=0AHow do I pay?=0A1. I'm not 100% sure yet.=A0 =0A2. I don't have a = PayPal account, but that might be the easiest way to do this.=0A=A0=0AWhat = are the deadlines and timelines?=0A1. I propose that all musical submitions= must be received by May 1, 2010.=A0 That's six weeks away. =0A2. I propose= that all payments must be received by May 1, 2010.=0A3. Please allow 2 wee= ks for mastering.=0A4. I need to confirm CD production turnaround time - 4-= 8 weeks, depending on when we send this in (oddly, this si a seasonal busin= ess).=0A=A0=0AWhat do I do next?=0APlease send David an email with the foll= owing details:=0A1. Your Full Name:=0A2. Your Musical Project's Name:=0A3. = Your Phone Number and Email for communication related to this project:=0A4.= The full mailing address to which you would like to receive your CDs:=0A5.= Would you like David to arrange IODA electronic distribution (iTunes, Amaz= on, etc..) YES or NO. (See "What Will I Get?", above):=A0=0A=A0=0AWhat does= David need to do next?=0A1. Calculate and communicate exact costs for CD d= uplication.=0A2. Confirm mastering costs. =0A3. Find a graphic artist to do= nate services.=0A4. Communicate to participants if there is universal agree= ment for IODA electronic distribution.=0A=A0=0AWhat else?=0AIs there anyone= who would like to volunteer to create the artwork to match these specifica= tions: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/sub5.htm=0AIf you decide to back ou= t, please do so in writing to my YAHOO email address, and NOT the LD list -= I can only read every 3rd Digest, they come so quickly!=0A=A0=0AWhat is Da= vid's motivation to do this?=0A1. Its been a while since LD CD III, so it s= eems like a good idea.=0A2. I need more work to do in my life / I must be c= razy.=0A3. I generally like the process.=0A4. Good karma.=0A=A0=0AI hope th= is email helps answer questions you may have.=A0It really doesn't need to b= e complicated as long as we can all follow the process and deadlines.=A0=A0= =0A=A0=0APlease let me know if you have any other questions!=0A=A0=0AKind r= egards,=0A=A0=0ADavid=0A=0A=0A --0-382681869-1268868118=:72624 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Yesterday I proposed creating another Loopers-Delight compilation CD, ga= thering examples of our Looping music.

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Today we have a full roster of participants!

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1. Matt Stevens

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= The basic details will be no surprise:

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- 12 particpants each submit 1 track no longer than 6 minu= tes.

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- Please consider the track submitted 10= 0% finished as far as you are concerned.

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- Al= l costs for preparation and production of 1000 shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-pa= nel color artwork in Jewel Cases are to be divided among the 12 participant= s.

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- All 1000 CDs to be divided among the 12 = participants (so 80 CD's each).

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- Delivery c= osts will be charged based on mailing costs (from Boston, MA) to participan= ts' addresses.

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I propose using the following service for CD production: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/ 

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= They've done great work for me for my= own UNDO CDs.

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What will this cost me?

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Final costs to be commnicated, but expect to pay something in th= e $200 dollar range, not including postage delivery of your CDs.

= =0A

I have used some top-flight mastering in the past for 1= 2 other CDs I've produced: ht= tp://www.peerlessmastering.com/.  I want to master the collection = to ensure the collected music plays well together. However, to keep costs d= own, I know another option I can use that I believe will work great and not= cost us anything. Stay tuned.

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 = ;

=0A

What will I get?

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1. Each participant wil receive 80 shrink-wrapped CDs wi= th 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases.

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2. D= epending on if everyone agrees, I can also arrange electronic distribution = for this CD through IODA: http://ww= w.iodalliance.com/. However, that brings up the question of distributio= n of any sales income (which I'm happy to do for 24 months).

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Are their any = restrictions on the music?

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2. Please do not submit anything that contains= profane language. :-)

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How do I pay?=

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1. I'm not 100% sure yet. 

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2. I don't have a PayPal account, but that might be the= easiest way to do this.

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What are the deadlines and timeli= nes?

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1. I propose that all musical s= ubmitions must be received by May 1, 2010.  That's six weeks away.

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2. I propose that all payments must be received= by May 1, 2010.

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3. Please allow 2 weeks for = mastering.

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4. I need to confirm CD production= turnaround time - 4-8 weeks, depending on when we send this in (oddly, thi= s si a seasonal business).

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= =0A

What do I do next?

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Please send David an email with the following details:=0A

1. Your Full Name:

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2. Yo= ur Musical Project's Name:

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3. Your Phone Numb= er and Email for communication related to this project:

=0A

4. The full mailing address to which you would like to receive y= our CDs:

=0A

5. Would you like David to arrange I= ODA electronic distribution (iTunes, Amazon, etc..) YES or NO. (See "What W= ill I Get?", above): 

=0A

 

= =0A

What does David need to do next?

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1. Calculate and communicate exact costs for CD du= plication.

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2. Confirm mastering costs.

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3. Find a graphic artist to donate services.

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4. Communicate to participants if there is univers= al agreement for IODA electronic distribution.

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What else?=0A

Is there anyone who= would like to volunteer to create the artwork to match these specification= s: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/sub5.htm<= /FONT>

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If you deci= de to back out, please do so in writing to my YAHOO email address, and NOT = the LD list - I can only read every 3rd Digest, they c= ome so quickly!

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=0A

What is David's motivation to do this?=0A

1. Its been a while since LD CD III, so it seems like= a good idea.

=0A

2. I need more work to do in my= life / I must be crazy.

=0A

3. I generally like = the process.

=0A

4. Good karma.

=0A

 

=0A

I hope this email helps a= nswer questions you may have. It really doesn't need to be complicated= as long as we can all follow the process and deadlines.  =

=0A

 

=0A

Please let m= e know if you have any other questions!

=0A

 

=0A

Kind regards,

=0A

 

=0A

= David

=0A

 


= =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-382681869-1268868118=:72624-- From John@itwv.net Thu Mar 18 00:15:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.thescyocs.com (mail.thescyocs.com [208.180.139.83]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A78A3BE87; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([82.128.37.172] RDNS failed) by mail.thescyocs.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:04:21 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dr Kingsley Paul" Subject: YOUR PAYMENT NOTIFICATION Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:13:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2010 00:04:22.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[903DB980:01CAC62E] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Zenith Bank ATM RE:YOUR PAYMENT NOTIFICATION From:Dr Kingsley Paul. 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Zenith Bank Of Nigeria.Attention:Beneficiary This to officially inform you that we have verified your contract file presently on my desk, and I found out that you have not received your payment due to your lack of co-operation and not fulfilling the obligations giving to you in respect to your contract payment.Secondly,you are hereby adviced to stop dealing with some non-officials in the bank as this is an illegal act and will have to stop if you so wish to receive your payment immediately.After the board meeting held at our headquarters, we have resolved in finding a solution to your problem, and as you may know, we have arranged your payment through our SWIFT CARD PAYMENT CENTER in Europe, America,Africa and Asia Pacific, which is the instruction given by our president, ALAHAJI USMAN AMIR YARADUA (GCFR) Federal Republic of Nigeria.This card center will send you an ATM CARD that consist of 7 million USD which you will use to withdraw your money in an ATM MACHINE in any part of the world, but the maximum is $4,000 Us Dollars per transaction. So, if you like to receive your fund this way,reply to this office immediately for the issueing of your (ATM)CARD.(1) Your Full Name: (2) Address where you want the payment center to send your ATM CARD.: (3) Phone And Fax Number: (4) Bank Name We shall be expecting to receive your information you have to stop any further communication with anybody or office apart from this office of the presidency. On this regards, do not hesitate to contact me for more details and direction, and also please do update me with any new development. Thanks for your co-operation.Best Regards, Dr Kingsley Paul Remittance Manager Zenith Bank Of Nigeria. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 00:39:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0C6B3BE81; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CvjM0wwLGPPc8KbgJUlRZAPgvAS77kL+K15lJiifdO0=; b=TCXY++1jsK4TYdjWsj0NMrEsuy+8ushGIZpoPeP7lIFuVu1qrgKkcxZZXjlkl0/ogo k28FNOQeLswQGSjsNXQuFSTad/DY8ns3xb0Nl0irmlhc4Cf/Q5RpeGNkBSthI21vdjVK 4qGnP1uqtFWv0jWRgWEvbVyjqGARUG1DSUtnc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gS0PVhA4GERfzPZZVTWeEeV3BfX2FzhlLLX7M/X3V6pVHKPf7ZntKaBxRzN6QaaUJd XeX5tO+xpzEL7Dr5ECoR/Jqb40UWbYztfOwtJodwAUrV1hStFubZkUYjD+MwiWGGJpMt 01rKLg/tmvnEGGrI0UnSihWjPa9xe+Aspm/WE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003070550h5473ca15t65fa93f883ff69e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003070550h5473ca15t65fa93f883ff69e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:39:20 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Name that virtual drum kit(?) From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68deab924db500482087670 Resent-Message-ID: <3R5TWC.A.AtF.5YXoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:39:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68deab924db500482087670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I found what I was looking for. http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/6461871-vintage-drum-machines-wav-samples-mpc-library The Acetone Rhythm Ace samples are spot on! for $10.99 US The sample pack includes a grip of vintage drum kits. Thanks all for the leads!!!! ~Adam --0016e68deab924db500482087670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I found what I was looking for.

http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/6461871-vintage-drum-machines-wav-samples-mpc-library

The Acetone Rhythm Ace samples are spot on!

for $10.99 US The sample pack includes a grip of vintage drum kits.

Thanks all for the leads!!!!

~Adam
--0016e68deab924db500482087670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 00:45:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE1F13BE92; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7990D3B6A1B245FEAFC6DCE84C4538B5@MichaelPC> From: To: References: <66f9cc1e1003070550h5473ca15t65fa93f883ff69e2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Kind OT - Physical Interaction Design for Music Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:45:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011C_01CAC60A.63AA05A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:45:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01CAC60A.63AA05A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Found this link on "Physical Interaction Design for Music" = https://ccrma.stanford.edu/courses/250a/lectures/ Kind of cool! Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.zenstorming.com ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01CAC60A.63AA05A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Found this link on "Physical = Interaction Design for=20 Music" https://ccrma.= stanford.edu/courses/250a/lectures/
 
Kind of cool!
 
Plish
 
www.michaelplishka.com<= /DIV>
www.zenstorming.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_011C_01CAC60A.63AA05A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 00:46:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C9923BEC9; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BA177C0.7020501@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:45:52 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: david kirkdorffer CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com, mech2@m3ch.net, tedkillian@charter.net, eterogenus@gmail.com, bigtonyk@gmail.com, antonyhequet@yahoo.com, info@andybutler.com, sinsofmachaut@gmail.com, loafcitious@gmail.com Subject: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs References: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys,
I feel embarrassed but I didn't know that a run of a thousand CDs was planned
nor that we would be sharing the costs of said manufacturing.

I just dont' have any wheres near the $200 it would take to invest in this so I"m going to have to be
forced to withdraw from this exciting project.

Please give my spot to the next deserving Looper.

Please forgive me for pulling out.  I am just really having a hard time economically right now.

yours,  
Rick Walker

ps   Dear David and everyone:    A Note about the manufacturing and selling of CDs in this economy:

   For what it's worth,   I have this gratuitous advice for the project:

I propose a different method for having our CDs made that will be far less costly per participant
and have several efficacious results.   Please read on and since this is gratuitous advice, I don't mind
at all if it's an irritant and you don't want to follow my suggestions.   I do it in the spirit of promoting
ourselves and also in not losing money on the project:

To Whit:

In the past four years CD sales have almost ceased to exist for most independent musicians.
I use to sell 20 - 50 CDs a show back in 2001-2003 and I don't even take the CDs to shows any more.

Consequently,  it's almost always a money losing proposition to manufacturer 1,000 CDs and it ends up
that you end up sitting on a tremendous amount of bulky inventory,  not to mention the ecological impact of
making more plastic.

Most artists I know who still put out CDs have gone to the model of having them manufactured (at a higher but not by much
per CD basis) when they are sold (Krispen Hartung is a really good resource for this method and has used it very successfully
for his releases).

This has several advantages to running lots of 1,000 CDs at a time:

1)  you don't have to spend money that is not necessary
2)  you almost always make a profit on your investment
3) you lower your ecological impact
4) you lower your space impact (for storing unsold CDs)

Addtionally,   you can put URLs on the artwork and have printable artwork stored online for the people who want it
(surprising to me, how many people DON'T want the artwork)  which further reduces your cost.

This all looks, nominally,  a bit less professional but it is a strategy designed for a world in global recession
and one that is experiencing fewer and fewer sales of CDs.

One can even have 'one off'   DVDs made that have the audio files for playing in CD players and computers,
high and low quality MP3s for those who want iPod play,  all the graphics for booklets in a printable form (.pdf)

All of this only costs about $3 a DVD,   or $2 a CD.

Please consider all of this,   David and if you change your mind on the plan of attack and adopt
this approach,  then I'll be back in on it.

If not,  no hard feelings and I apologize for wasting your time.

respectfully,   Rick Walker

david kirkdorffer wrote:

Hello -

 

Yesterday I proposed creating another Loopers-Delight compilation CD, gathering examples of our Looping music.

Today we have a full roster of participants!

 

THE LD CD IV TEAM

1. Matt Stevens

2. Duke Sexton

3. Ted Killian

4. fabio

5. Tony K

6. Antony Hequet

7. Andy Butler

8. Dennis Moser

9. Edward Yuhas

10. Andy G

11. Rick Walker

12. David Kirkdorffer

 

The basic details will be no surprise:

- 12 particpants each submit 1 track no longer than 6 minutes.

- Please consider the track submitted 100% finished as far as you are concerned.

- All costs for preparation and production of 1000 shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases are to be divided among the 12 participants.

- All 1000 CDs to be divided among the 12 participants (so 80 CD's each).

- Delivery costs will be charged based on mailing costs (from Boston, MA) to participants' addresses.

 

I propose using the following service for CD production: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/ 

They've done great work for me for my own UNDO CDs.

 

What will this cost me?

Final costs to be commnicated, but expect to pay something in the $200 dollar range, not including postage delivery of your CDs.

I have used some top-flight mastering in the past for 12 other CDs I've produced: http://www.peerlessmastering.com/.  I want to master the collection to ensure the collected music plays well together. However, to keep costs down, I know another option I can use that I believe will work great and not cost us anything. Stay tuned.

 

What will I get?

1. Each participant wil receive 80 shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases.

2. Depending on if everyone agrees, I can also arrange electronic distribution for this CD through IODA: http://www.iodalliance.com/. However, that brings up the question of distribution of any sales income (which I'm happy to do for 24 months).

 

Are their any restrictions on the music?

1. Please do not submit anything that contains ANY samples of other people's work.

2. Please do not submit anything that contains profane language. :-)

 

How do I pay?

1. I'm not 100% sure yet. 

2. I don't have a PayPal account, but that might be the easiest way to do this.

 

What are the deadlines and timelines?

1. I propose that all musical submitions must be received by May 1, 2010.  That's six weeks away.

2. I propose that all payments must be received by May 1, 2010.

3. Please allow 2 weeks for mastering.

4. I need to confirm CD production turnaround time - 4-8 weeks, depending on when we send this in (oddly, this si a seasonal business).

 

What do I do next?

Please send David an email with the following details:

1. Your Full Name:

2. Your Musical Project's Name:

3. Your Phone Number and Email for communication related to this project:

4. The full mailing address to which you would like to receive your CDs:

5. Would you like David to arrange IODA electronic distribution (iTunes, Amazon, etc..) YES or NO. (See "What Will I Get?", above): 

 

What does David need to do next?

1. Calculate and communicate exact costs for CD duplication.

2. Confirm mastering costs.

3. Find a graphic artist to donate services.

4. Communicate to participants if there is universal agreement for IODA electronic distribution.

 

What else?

Is there anyone who would like to volunteer to create the artwork to match these specifications: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/sub5.htm

If you decide to back out, please do so in writing to my YAHOO email address, and NOT the LD list - I can only read every 3rd Digest, they come so quickly!

 

What is David's motivation to do this?

1. Its been a while since LD CD III, so it seems like a good idea.

2. I need more work to do in my life / I must be crazy.

3. I generally like the process.

4. Good karma.

 

I hope this email helps answer questions you may have. It really doesn't need to be complicated as long as we can all follow the process and deadlines.  

 

Please let me know if you have any other questions!

 

Kind regards,

 

David

 


From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 00:52:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C5803BE8B; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wk+jTE3sJZY+GampJ0yGlW4kd0ohEUF52zzeVFWsguI=; b=oc/3i6AUPHp80UdIAd/JCll4Ta3bOygtjqt+nDMENOsMMj+4B5/xAV9oTQzu3CJltO WvUUWfQbE35PykMdm8qEs2Om3Yl/ChdXSFkboi1rTrS80511cMWPc6t6Ktjp5QX7w12C rxJJNOSnD1QAJuyvWiqvccoK95LlO7A4eM4z4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P8kOZfmR79ILF19f/PMj6PVNqrysi/FV7IRvGCpFuWdHurbzEOtvTRsCkF+a05tH1N mb7ppAlKkWlsDLeZy5hXVDKhOO23M4U/0xPQLOa2/8OB4ROJi27GjgqTFLKqXO1iyKNv Zp+VtSfaXRlMWs/UPZNnrG+HJXJgtp+AtiHcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e1003070550h5473ca15t65fa93f883ff69e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:52:29 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003171752x28acb5c1n10d24cc26a519375@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Name that virtual drum kit(?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:52:32 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:39 AM, ^|>^m wrote: > I found what I was looking for. > http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/6461871-vintage-drum-machines-wav-samples-mpc-library > The Acetone Rhythm Ace samples are spot on! Wow, that sample pack is a drum museum!!! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 01:18:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 702F43BE97; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BA17F44.2090706@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:17:56 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: GUITAR PLAYER editors TOP 5 NAMM picks: Bill Walker and Looperlative name checked Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:18:03 +0000 (UTC) A musician friend of mine who is a non-looper sent this to me on FaceBook about the latest video I produced.............It was nice to get the acknowledgment but the end of his letter was what really wowed me! Michael Byers wrote: ""Nice one Rick! Enjoyed this piece this morning with some fresh hot coffee.. ........... Then I started flipping through the latest issue of Guitar Player magazine, May 2010 issue, and on page 27 there's the editors' top 5 NAMM picks. And there's Bill at the Looperlative booth, "one of the most advanced looping guitarists on the planet!" Brought a tear to my eye! How much do one of those little boxes cost? I've wanted to mess around with looping stuff for years. Let me know." Another convert to live looping!!!! Thanks and big congratulations to Bill Walker for a kudo that is truly deserved for all of his work in digital live looping in the last 15 years. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 02:33:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D17E43BE87; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2171 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:33:51 UTC Message-ID: <4BA18894.5040902@theambientping.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:57:40 -0400 From: PiNG User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 03.23.10 > The PiNG presents URM + The Devil In The Design + General Chaos Visuals + Subduction Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:33:51 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 03.23.10 THE AMBiENT PiNG presents "GEMiNi 3" Featuring URM + THE DEVIL IN THE DESIGN + SUBDUCTION CURRENT + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market . just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 8:30 . The Devil In The Design . One of the PiNG's favourite space guitarists, Phil Ogison (also of The Moon Dandies, Harold, A Pretty Sonic Splatter and Psychosomatic Climax Machine) returns to create a sweet quiet noise with his solo project The Devil In The Design. Phil will be joined by percussionist Jeff Howard on the electronic kit & visualist Catherine Tammaro of Subduction Current. http://www.myspace.com/ogison 9.30 . URM . Jamie Todd (also of dreamSTATE, NOiNO & SADU) has fuelled up the laptop to launch a spaced out set of electronics, sequences and drones along with some interspersed improvised ambient soundscapes. Unlike the launching of Gemini 3, no corned beef sandwiches will be snuck on-board as we don't want any crumbs floating about messing up the instrumentation. http://www.urm.ca . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Throughout the evening, the unique evolving light paintings of General Chaos Visuals will provide us with mesmerizing motor-driven, hand-painted visuals projected onto the live canvas of performers. http://webhome.idirect.com/~slindsey . As an added treat, Phil, Jeff and Jamie will all plug in together to improvise a third set. In keeping with jamming spirit of the evening, Subduction Current will improvise with General Chaos Visuals throughout to deepen the mind bending eye candy. . For those of you who can't make it out to experience this show's visuals and music live and in person, we'll be streaming this show live to the net thanks to the Supermarket's partnership with SyncLive. watch the show live on Tues. March 23 at 8:30pm EST by going to http://app.synclive.com?show/35759 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON - the 1st TORONTO AMBiENT MUSIC FESTiVAL SUNDAY APRiL 25th 2010 . THE AMBiENT PiNG in co-operation with The Music Gallery presents ROBERT RICH LIVE IN CONCERT @ The Music Gallery . St. George the Martyr Church 197 John St. - north of Queen W. behind the AGO . Doors 6:30pm . concert 7:30pm . $25 door / $20 advance Complete info & Advance online tickets (click the BUY NOW link) available through: http://www.theambientping.com/events.html WEDNESDAY APRiL 28th 2010 . SPACE TOURiSM featuring dreamSTATE + General Chaos Visuals + more TBA @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market . just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 SATURDAY MAY 1st 2010 . RADiO iN AMBiENCE A special PiNG presentation for Deep Wireless in collaboration with New Adventures in Sound Art Featuring Emmanual Madan + Anna Friz + Eric Woodley @ THE LOOP STUDIO . Artscape Wychwood Barns 601 Christie Street . SW of the Bathurst/St. Clair Subway PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ping things net label releases While the PiNG has been hibernating, the ping things net label has been keeping busy, so there's a few new free downloadable releases to catch up on: 1 -> "Swimming Alone" by Lorne David Thomson Offering 11 songs in a variety of sounds & styles, "Swimming Alone" features rich soundscapes, deep melodic electronica, vintage synth tracks and more, all showcasing the extensive talents of Lorne David Thomson. "Swimming Alone" is an engaging and inspired collection of music available exclusively from ping things! "Swimming Alone" is available for free download as an 113Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Lorne David Thomson 2009 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. http://www.archive.org/download/pingthings016/ptnr016.zip 2 -> "singular" by spatial correlation "singular" is a compilation of tracks from several of Ryan Hagerman's releases performing as both spatial correlation & in his earlier guise as the widening gyre. It's delicate melodic ambient lo-fi brilliance. "singular" is available for free download as an 129Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Ryan Hagerman 2009 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. http://www.archive.org/download/pingthings017/pingthings017.zip 3 -> "Live on Alien Air Music" by Resonant Drift "Live on Alien Air Music" is a long form piece taken from a recent live performance that features Bill Olien and Gary Johnson of Resonant Drift (with contributions from Mathias Grassow) creating a dense and beautiful soundscape filled with mystery and dark wonder. Running a gamut of moods and feelings, "Live on Alien Air Music" is a fabulous release that ping things is thrilled to be able to share with you! "Live on Alien Air Music" is available for free download as an 74Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright FloBob Music and Flow Space Music 2010 & may not be used or reproduced without the artist's permission. http://www.archive.org/download/pingthings018/pingthings018.zip ping things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 02:43:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1E9E3BE88; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268875635; bh=AgB4k1g3LqCxtbqnCn0zTBJ1MyECOwHiCBhEtDXazCs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZNYkBWL+ddvznsBfud+56B0EAt6qYSLE36AYFq3l8qXi+GND51r1mVs/YYElnDt2ISGa/+a+/jaZEsMMhyJgMXQHXuJuWxFgUWQOMQLmh2LK47LUcOG6wclIlkp1mT+x2BDYoSiKv7V8uS4QwVCIc742ZvhoNPD1casEekeyHwU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UebecJjjxGFGV2aO2kxJyc5SpgLxbUph6bqNsHRofhquG4IJozFIGmSBKnlJwRWJfkvyTGLBEz3j57D+oLCqZuXC2P0wBYhxWK6r0WCbu0nR5Q96tOQJQjK6JIsS0vx3+NXRM4k8eYPEKRqFEpChH9Npof5O8qgjTZgUTlsyI2M=; Message-ID: <811989.97995.qm@web55206.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2Ho0YgwVM1kg5ph9oYU2fNqHHRJiV17MZYV2QEiNrF7A6qp UOJ0aSZC6yBPYobko.vnn4d34CrXuJjhksXnJ8C1Ybmhu4iC6lYC8WZF.hm9 1fKHvR.iGDrhZYJJ6yupbQF67zK3yfFzgOgLsFdmhX54AuwzjHkc_JfoiKD1 1oxmZfMMnHgiLjgueqG8abNkQW77HPK_g6stDBjNcZW_t1mfF7ZglREwjDBi W_4syn5Rayw9uOE_hJURhJaBm6LZcjLxajr7O1JiZqNeKHxabRl6KnACt.bC i6B.eDSGK4RDW5gYMfj5NophZm3GxBQ1FjvFmV7JX1RKIFGBYTVkUFqGAirf YY_y5MR4dLPq0iknU0lb.nQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: Re: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs To: looppool@cruzio.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com, mech2@m3ch.net, tedkillian@charter.net, eterogenus@gmail.com, bigtonyk@gmail.com, antonyhequet@yahoo.com, info@andybutler.com, sinsofmachaut@gmail.com, loafcitious@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Sorry you are dropping out Rick. I think I mentioned right from the start that the plan was to share production costs to produce 1000 CD s. Rick proposes an interesting option for anyone, however I m not interested in the one-off production process for the LD CD IV. If anyone else would like to back-out, let me know. Cheers! David. On Wed Mar 17th, 2010 8:45 PM EDT Rick Walker wrote: >Hi guys, >I feel embarrassed but I didn't know that a run of a thousand CDs was >planned >nor that we would be sharing the costs of said manufacturing. > >I just dont' have any wheres near the $200 it would take to invest in >this so I"m going to have to be >forced to withdraw from this exciting project. > >Please give my spot to the next deserving Looper. > >Please forgive me for pulling out.  I am just really having a hard time >economically right now. > >yours,   >Rick Walker > >ps   Dear David and everyone:    A Note about the manufacturing and >selling of CDs in this economy: > >   For what it's worth,   I have this gratuitous advice for the >project: > >I propose a different method for having our CDs made that will be far >less costly per participant >and have several efficacious results.   Please read on and since this >is gratuitous advice, I don't mind >at all if it's an irritant and you don't want to follow my >suggestions.   I do it in the spirit of promoting >ourselves and also in not losing money on the project: > >To Whit: > >In the past four years CD sales have almost ceased to exist for most >independent musicians. >I use to sell 20 - 50 CDs a show back in 2001-2003 and I don't even >take the CDs to shows any more. > >Consequently,  it's almost always a money losing proposition to >manufacturer 1,000 CDs and it ends up >that you end up sitting on a tremendous amount of bulky inventory,  not >to mention the ecological impact of >making more plastic. > >Most artists I know who still put out CDs have gone to the model of >having them manufactured (at a higher but not by much >per CD basis) when they are sold (Krispen Hartung is a really good >resource for this method and has used it very successfully >for his releases). > >This has several advantages to running lots of 1,000 CDs at a time: > >1)  you don't have to spend money that is not necessary >2)  you almost always make a profit on your investment >3) you lower your ecological impact >4) you lower your space impact (for storing unsold CDs) > >Addtionally,   you can put URLs on the artwork and have printable >artwork stored online for the people who want it >(surprising to me, how many people DON'T want the artwork)  which >further reduces your cost. > >This all looks, nominally,  a bit less professional but it is a >strategy designed for a world in global recession >and one that is experiencing fewer and fewer sales of CDs. > >One can even have 'one off'   DVDs made that have the audio files for >playing in CD players and computers, >high and low quality MP3s for those who want iPod play,  all the >graphics for booklets in a printable form (.pdf) > >All of this only costs about $3 a DVD,   or $2 a CD. > >Please consider all of this,   David and if you change your mind on the >plan of attack and adopt >this approach,  then I'll be back in on it. > >If not,  no hard feelings and I apologize for wasting your time. > >respectfully,   Rick Walker > >david kirkdorffer wrote: > > > > > Hello - >   > Yesterday I proposed creating >another Loopers-Delight compilation CD, gathering examples of our >Looping music. > Today we have a full roster of >participants! >   > THE LD CD IV TEAM > 1. Matt Stevens > 2. Duke Sexton > 3. Ted Killian > 4. fabio > 5. Tony K > 6. Antony Hequet > 7. Andy Butler > 8. Dennis Moser > 9. Edward Yuhas > 10. Andy G > 11. Rick Walker > 12. David Kirkdorffer >   > The basic details will be no >surprise: > - 12 particpants each submit 1 track >no longer than 6 minutes. > - Please consider the track submitted >100% finished as far as you are concerned. > - All costs for preparation and >production of 1000 shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-panel color artwork in >Jewel Cases are to be divided among the 12 participants. > - All 1000 CDs to be divided among the >12 participants (so 80 CD's each). > - Delivery costs will be charged based >on mailing costs (from Boston, MA) to participants' addresses. >   > I propose using the following service >for CD production: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/  > They've done great work for me for my >own UNDO CDs. >   > What will this cost me? > Final costs to be commnicated, but >expect to pay something in the $200 dollar range, not including postage >delivery of your CDs. > I have used some top-flight mastering >in the past for 12 other CDs I've produced: http://www.peerlessmastering.com/.  >I want to master the collection to ensure the collected music plays >well together. However, to keep costs down, I know another option I can >use that I believe will work great and not cost us anything. Stay tuned. >   > What will I get? > 1. Each participant wil receive >80 shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases. > 2. Depending on if everyone agrees, I >can also arrange electronic distribution for this CD through IODA: http://www.iodalliance.com/. >However, that brings up the question of distribution of any sales >income (which I'm happy to do for 24 months). >   > Are their any restrictions on >the music? > 1. Please do not submit anything that >contains ANY samples of other people's work. > 2. Please do not submit anything that >contains profane language. :-) >   > How do I pay? > 1. I'm not 100% sure yet.  > 2. I don't have a PayPal account, but >that might be the easiest way to do this. >   > What are the deadlines and timelines? > 1. I propose that all musical >submitions must be received by May 1, 2010.  That's six weeks away. > 2. I propose that all payments must be >received by May 1, 2010. > 3. Please allow 2 weeks for mastering. > 4. I need to confirm CD production >turnaround time - 4-8 weeks, depending on when we send this in (oddly, >this si a seasonal business). >   > What do I do next? > Please send David an email with the >following details: > 1. Your Full Name: > 2. Your Musical Project's Name: > 3. Your Phone Number and Email for >communication related to this project: > 4. The full mailing address to which >you would like to receive your CDs: > 5. Would you like David to arrange >IODA electronic distribution (iTunes, Amazon, etc..) YES or NO. (See >"What Will I Get?", above):  >   > What does David need to do >next? > 1. Calculate and communicate exact >costs for CD duplication. > 2. Confirm mastering costs. > 3. Find a graphic artist to donate >services. > 4. Communicate to participants if >there is universal agreement for IODA electronic distribution. >   > What else? > Is >there anyone who would like to volunteer to create the artwork to match >these specifications: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/sub5.htm > If >you decide to back out, please do so in writing to my YAHOO email >address, and NOT the LD list - I can only read >every 3rd Digest, they come so quickly! >   > What is David's motivation to >do this? > 1. Its been a while since LD CD III, >so it seems like a good idea. > 2. I need more work to do in my life / >I must be crazy. > 3. I generally like the process. > 4. Good karma. >   > I hope this email helps answer >questions you may have. It really doesn't need to be complicated as >long as we can all follow the process and deadlines.   >   > Please let me know if you have any >other questions! >   > Kind regards, >   > David >   From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 03:27:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 758A23BE86; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OORKoG2n3jMl+FbYhyS3ayeenximxMx5G+lQBYiruFE=; b=cAP7XqfWg6W6t3dP0tz7KHmwOyaXT4C+wSzgpzffunivkaOeq7eH2IQmCeQwxYQQyr qmeIguV5mB6PjQxKEnsLeIUzi2Y79yCpSOIjftHIGxqAemshA36i72Iu2D5JSyaHLPxh Ea1RbkFkqB2tWQ0gH333MN/dPgr60kpC+wwh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M023eNCJ3wP3HWEgtHWnW/J2qExANBp90wDGFuK31PZ5LIksid59q2C0qMfGz9g7rU qsjtnzo4HfxSqXhqVE+gQ8JpjVmqTi74VaVR/KOEtB+kp6sdggDv9pAUJNhrkilFP0aU oO0oajF3qvK+/9ETFlgcbiWebwzvnzJudCmLY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:27:19 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368751003172027p4ade5aer5b0d92f0fe7c7856@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: komplete vs. ableton From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd70b66eadd4304820ace1a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:27:20 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd70b66eadd4304820ace1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "You can use Live=92s instruments with other applications if they support ReWire" so when it says on ableton's site that: "collision requires ableton live 8 or higher" this is, in fact, not true? it seemed to me that all of the programs withi= n live were proprietary. purchasing both ableton and komplete is not a financial option right now. anyhow, getting back to the meat and potatoes of the initial question: i'm running everything in bidule. i think i mentioned this, but just to reiterate: i love bidule. it's bone-simple but deep enough once you start digging. loads of options and i get along with it swimmingly. the sampler is of paramount importance. i love sampling crap, processing the shit out of it and then using it as it's own instrument. so in that regard, kontakt is sorta critical. i've been using short circuit but kontakt is approximately 4000 times better. i live fm and absynth and battery as well...the arpeggiator in fm is pretty uninquel i definitely prefer the pre-packaged sounds in komplete over thos= e offered by ableton. regarding live performance, most of what i do is done on-the-spot with not = a lot of sequence triggering or what-have-you. i am (and have been) leaning towards native instruments but wanted to see if anyone could dissuade me. - jim --000e0cd70b66eadd4304820ace1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "You can use= =20 Live=92s instruments with other applications if they support ReWire"

so when it says on= ableton's site that:

"collision requires ableton live 8 or= higher"

this is, in fact, not true?=A0 it seemed to me that al= l of the programs within live were proprietary.=A0

purchasing both ableton and komplete is not a financial option right no= w.

anyhow, getting back to the meat and potatoes of the initial ques= tion:

i'm running everything in bidule.=A0 i think i mentioned t= his, but just to reiterate: i love bidule. it's bone-simple but deep en= ough once you start digging.=A0 loads of options and i get along with it sw= immingly.=A0

the sampler is of paramount importance.=A0 i love sampling crap, proces= sing the shit out of it and then using it as it's own instrument.=A0 so= in that regard, kontakt is sorta critical.=A0 i've been using short ci= rcuit but kontakt is approximately 4000 times better.
i live fm and absynth and battery as well...the arpeggiator in fm is pretty= uninquel=A0 i definitely prefer the pre-packaged sounds in komplete over t= hose offered by ableton.

regarding live performance, most of what i = do is done on-the-spot with not a lot of sequence triggering or what-have-y= ou.=A0 i am (and have been) leaning towards native instruments but wanted t= o see if anyone could dissuade me.

- jim =A0=A0

--000e0cd70b66eadd4304820ace1a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 03:46:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 123993BE7F; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Revfever Subject: (semi-OT) Richard Pinhas & Merzbow Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:46:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC) I finally got around to hearing an early 2008 2CD release of a Richard Pinhas (Heldon) & Merzbow collaboration entitled "Keio Line" and is SPECTACULAR! This is one of the BEST things I have heard in a loooong time! And yes, there is a ton of loopage all over the place on it! It is always a joy when 2 LONG time masters meet and work together and the results turn out to be ASTOUNDING! This is very highly REVcommended! Enjoy! Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, Oregon The Angry Red Planet :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 04:20:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C1BF3BE78; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; bh=ah/mRby+8l2+wMooajh2md13NyHbgFIZ5FUMN8kUiRo=; b=qDmiZLbdlKUXOcnc/Dl+Ts8uXDjf5Kd62wEpxlxmqIiacMHzwAuH/QkpBCXqshHYWq YIwPz55VevxYoobQ+ogwNLqnMJXlUJOQk+MifQIFMHfJs+FTi4ERJJnb2EaRNhQjskHC u1LGSHDke0XEluaskj+ZA2gqkgu1q81LSj/NA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language:x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; b=U3kRbsSpry+zwEG0avXAE0KBHZcGil76jW9XSx0QyYvHt1C8ueAuUkr+FVqZRdMIxR bQa0ottW5vhOAgAyd0Zkv4EvHJxbSvtndjfTEpUUR/pbpeFAV0YNLHvWu0yoiqQQVTxx 2CdTZ0ctdylwKU6+1MMttSesjh9udVwNvAu1o= From: "Tony K" To: References: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> In-Reply-To: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> Subject: for your listening pleasure... Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:20:28 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01cac652$594dcf90$0be96eb0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcrGTZ/YDA9NIgoUTn2qYMIuz5nU2wABDkZw Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AMoy A2ik A/aJ BBQZ BnBk BptO Dged EGtL E1AU E8k8 FJG6 FSh1 Fwif Ilfi IqYX J87e;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{853F1E92-58E6-483A-AFE1-02E91CDE0965};YgBpAGcAdABvAG4AeQBrAEAAZwBtAGEAaQBsAC4AYwBvAG0A;Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:20:26 GMT;ZgBvAHIAIAB5AG8AdQByACAAbABpAHMAdABlAG4AaQBuAGcAIABwAGwAZQBhAHMAdQByAGUALgAuAC4A x-cr-puzzleid: {853F1E92-58E6-483A-AFE1-02E91CDE0965} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:20:36 +0000 (UTC) I was suddenly inspired to turn on all my stuff and record tonight. (I've been playing acoustic/classical for the last few months.) This appeared. http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Tentacles.mp3 Equipment (for those who are interested) Brian Moore iGuitar -> GR-50 -> Korg M3R -> ModFX -> DD20 -> Vortex -> RSP550 Enjoy, Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 06:54:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2C573BE81; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: New loop music, new techniques, download/stream Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:54:10 +0100 Message-ID: <005601cac667$d709b830$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcrF3qzJ1DVu917NTE+rQu1Sup5yTwAiROJw In-Reply-To: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.180; VDF: 7.10.5.109) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:54:25 +0000 (UTC) > here's some of the stuff I've been trying out lately. very nice Andy !! -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 07:39:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C8C3BE82; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268897939; bh=dasDZZytOO1ZxAIk0pyQLXeH2WFbPayDhJ+xdz/otlU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3tqGrN+Uk7heKMTahah//c+wGbkGuX/CRHDFJ/71NoK47oNdFjKmo+lQxl0UE1C3G3YgXCdu/+qMZyawU/tANfQS8/IqLuIJbMWdmzARS2qpbGuN8J8CLR1CZYxmtIpGV75uXMzs7WnpymcIIuTWrgKNgaJoGnJR4ZsUjzb4eCM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pdCGcret3l1YPjk/eIiY8LRvkO4VYOkSHSA+bpR0jZe2+r6ozt+4lXuOySQi1RX3WTF/btPoapq3N2bzW50Yooao/YsCcEvbFqbCjknNnDnVHqKW8/7eWAkzkRRALO0E4ahSIlh83iRq2+h4gYCXJnQ/a9hph9Mx/jEiQG75Mg8=; Message-ID: <796132.86374.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aG3PitsVM1kS1b.hyfuEBYGLY.6CjZO40GpUURxJAqWzGXT F66Rrye_mpdZVDs6liwvsR5Imu_Q6fU37HlUVUNK1i5GLJTzx8aatUZEj7xT DBgQ_6jay2xexqGpYYRAxGus6HWHqZQAnaXha4lTuTWVsuKZSFIpUiLfmrat RrPupUoOBF0iclI.IvHZgIh2z_POBYTxPYMMJOjbfu5Kv3Q3krcEU3W_0HDB 7Y_4kgBwxpCzd_6_XV4M20H.Yh.8CmgRYXKD6N8OcKteeDthffpmD127TjJQ 5pGEF7T_lzn9YHpoS7eKCK05fLPjXBrg4SwN4zr2RG5aEZN8mpnQIeQrfSOM j X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Re: for your listening pleasure... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000e01cac652$594dcf90$0be96eb0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1652878923-1268897939=:86374" Resent-Message-ID: <8Uxt_C.A.9tH.UidoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:39:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-1652878923-1268897939=:86374 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice music Tony! The spontaneous inspiration is prevalent! I like the energ= etic quality of the piece.=A0 Sometimes the quick, intuitive recording turn= s out the best, I had a moment like that little while ago and this came out= of it... http://vimeo.com/9397598=A0 -Hope you enjoy it Thanks for the nice sounds Tony, just listened to it before bed, it seemed = to chill out my daughter a bit-Thanks! --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Tony K wrote: From: Tony K Subject: for your listening pleasure... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 9:20 PM I was suddenly inspired to turn on all my stuff and record tonight. (I've been playing acoustic/classical for the last few months.) This appeared. http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Tentacles.mp3 Equipment (for those who are interested) Brian Moore iGuitar -> GR-50 -> Korg M3R -> ModFX -> DD20 -> Vortex -> RSP550 Enjoy, Tony =0A=0A=0A --0-1652878923-1268897939=:86374 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice music Tony! The spontaneous inspiration = is prevalent! I like the energetic quality of the piece.  Sometimes th= e quick, intuitive recording turns out the best, I had a moment like that l= ittle while ago and this came out of it...

http://vimeo.com/9397598  -Hope you enjoy it

Th= anks for the nice sounds Tony, just listened to it before bed, it seemed to= chill out my daughter a bit-Thanks!

--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Tony K = <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>
Subject: for your listening pl= easure...
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, Ma= rch 17, 2010, 9:20 PM

I was suddenly inspir= ed to turn on all my stuff and record tonight. (I've
been playing acoustic/cl= assical for the last few months.)

This appeared.

http://w= ww.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Tentacles.mp3

Equipment (for those wh= o are interested)

Brian Moore iGuitar -> GR-50 -> Korg M3R -&g= t; ModFX -> DD20 -> Vortex ->
RSP550

Enjoy,

Tony<= br>

=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1652878923-1268897939=:86374-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 08:22:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D3533BE84; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 363122159/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.211.92/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.211.92 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAP9/oUtPTtNc/2dsb2JhbAAH016EeAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,265,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="363122159" Message-ID: <4BA1E2BE.7080905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:22:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How do I get the most out of my two EDP's? References: <9ab0c76f1003171529r3030f930m6b32aa63b1a38527@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f1003171529r3030f930m6b32aa63b1a38527@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:22:22 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: >.. much like the tracks that Andy just posted, except in > stereo.. there SO much you can do with 2... well, I didn't explain it, but indeed there's stereo trickery in at least one of those demos. (I always have the 2 EDPs hard panned) andy (I'll post some 2 EDP suggestions later today) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 08:30:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 480173BE81; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <30618679.640701268901046655.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:30:46 +0100 (CET) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: R: Re: Proposing - Looper-Delight CD Vol IV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_74603_12034460.1268901046655" X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.136 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:30:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_74603_12034460.1268901046655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also could be interested to partecipate but i don't know your e-mail david, mine is: mas.liv@libero.it Max Liver (Massimo Liverani, Firenze Italia) ----Messaggio originale---- Da: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Data: 17/03/2010 10.05 A: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Ogg: Re: Proposing - Looper-Delight CD Vol IV Hello David,What is your email?Antony Hwquet Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:21 AM, david kirkdorffer wrote: Folks, I would like to propose we create another compilation Loopers-Delight CD gathering examples of our Looping music. It offers a chance to release our music, while sharing the costs of production -- and if everyone who participates also promotes the CD to local radio outlet's it can offer a chance for the music to be heard world-wide. We've probably all released CD's before, so you know the ropes. Here are the "broad stokes" of what I'm proposing: - each submission be no longer than 6.00 minutes (so, no more than 12 tracks on the CD). - submissions to be provided on CD. - producing 1000 actual CD's in regular Jewel Boxes (the kind radio stations prefer...). - simple colour art-work with track details and information (to be further specified). - division of stamping and artwork printing costs. - depending on how many participate, we divide production costs. - mailing costs for participants to receive CDs based on where participants live in the world! (I'm located in Boston, MA). I can work out a deal for professional mastering of the collection. Do we have an graphic artist in the group? Interested?? If yes, please reply to my email AND NOT ONLY TO THE LD LIST - THANKS! I'll compile interest and report back to everyone Friday. Cheers, David ------=_Part_74603_12034460.1268901046655 Content-Type: text/html;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I also could be interested to partecipate but i don't know your e-mail david, mine is: mas.liv@libero.it

Max Liver (Massimo Liverani, Firenze Italia)

----Messaggio originale----
Da: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
Data: 17/03/2010 10.05
A: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Ogg: Re: Proposing - Looper-Delight CD Vol IV

Hello David,
What is your email?
Antony Hwquet

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:21 AM, david kirkdorffer <unstrungone@yahoo.com> wrote:

Folks,
 
I would like to propose we create another compilation Loopers-Delight CD gathering examples of our Looping music.
 
It offers a chance to release our music, while sharing the costs of production -- and if everyone who participates also promotes the CD to local radio outlet's it can offer a chance for the music to be heard world-wide.
 
We've probably all released CD's before, so you know the ropes.  Here are the "broad stokes" of what I'm proposing:
 
- each submission be no longer than 6.00 minutes (so, no more than 12 tracks on the CD).
- submissions to be provided on CD.
- producing 1000 actual CD's in regular Jewel Boxes (the kind radio stations prefer...).
- simple colour art-work with track details and information (to be further specified).
- division of stamping and artwork printing costs.
- depending on how many participate, we divide production costs.
- mailing costs for participants to receive CDs based on where participants live in the world! (I'm located in Boston, MA).
 
I can work out a deal for professional mastering of the collection. 
 
Do we have an graphic artist in the group?
 
Interested??  If yes, please reply to my email AND NOT ONLY TO THE LD LIST - THANKS!
 
I'll compile interest and report back to everyone Friday.
 
Cheers,
 
David




------=_Part_74603_12034460.1268901046655-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 09:22:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BA483BE85; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:References:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=WSJbLgYkqNfl7qrWz2XskzFTxPL5y/v8wR4Bahmjk1GQjhbssr93TO/fanHXoC/rmvhaOGCqaM6Kvv+iTAsyUaMvqS5cM2QSWQK6Ghzap8zlJ+rUESo8JOeMp4pdl4uPqxwNFknqmreRwMP73vxd8bRGiv7ROWianAczAHj/g5Q= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1268904121; bh=lflKzBDeUC/RnFtIndxLqsjnqRmkuMqu6fSTkHOlJ4M=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:References:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=DAOygtPAtHLaHdPxnKuXGijT+vWZJ4a5hlkMQTmlPDQPFwqaMhOMmc//ZgLe8i1kWm6/Xebamw9P5zsgyz8jDPVO5aukE4uYQMzLbI5RUjUA3gLovE5kRZclTKqoTBhYp6Ulk2LW4ukE/AnoOfkmEH+939AuXlXCUgu1dcJMspo= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: fCmqd84VM1m9JrgPbXpsIG55ssjSc5sZsAVvThfJha2uFagtJguO5vQ7pNjpciBep2JggVZU.zQGjXTneKfrfOEQyOOviiKyl8ZyAqA96RG0QvgTc73_xB7Je9t8F3CDtVxJfKPmK7nyXOJdJ0H0cZa3jfVUO.Du4C4WlrLo3LtOb5NywZmDLMmTYFCIlO_BbEkNu4i3E7yBviNDKZUzaeAOsad_6AOtXYgORgK2Cgx8LKeXlnsil5qab6KmyZBx4nuBLTkIrDb0_Pkkz7B3NQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <89E7A756-047C-449E-BB56-74346D8907B5@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-53-686620978 References: <06C0A656-B9E9-4985-8E43-92E1DACF788F@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Fwd: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:21:53 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:22:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-53-686620978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > From: Matt Stevens > Date: 18 March 2010 09:20:28 GMT > To: Andy Butler > Subject: Re: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important > note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs > > We could do it as a Bandcamp download - would reduce costs by > around 95%? > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 18 Mar 2010, at 09:18, Andy Butler wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> sorry to mess everybody about. >> >> I'm out. >> >> It's gonna be too expensive, 6 weeks is not long enough >> for me to guarantee a worthwhile submission, >> and 80 cds is 50 more than I'll ever need. >> >> Also, I'm already on LD3, so it's nice to give someone else a chance. >> (which is why this is posted to ld) >> >> I will buy a copy of course. >> >> apologies >> andy butler >> >> >> >> >> >> >> david kirkdorffer wrote: >>> Sorry you are dropping out Rick. >>> >>> I think I mentioned right from the start that the plan was to >>> share production costs to produce 1000 CD s. >>> >>> Rick proposes an interesting option for anyone, however I m not >>> interested in the one-off production process for the LD CD IV. >>> If anyone else would like to back-out, let me know. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> David. >>> >>> On Wed Mar 17th, 2010 8:45 PM EDT Rick Walker wrote: >>> >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-53-686620978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Date: 18 March 2010 09:20:28 = GMT
To: Andy Butler <info@andybutler.com>
Subject: = Re: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important = note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs

We could do it as a = Bandcamp download - would reduce costs by around 95%?

=
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 18 Mar 2010, = at 09:18, Andy Butler wrote:

Hi David,

sorry to mess everybody = about.

I'm out.

It's gonna be too expensive, 6 = weeks is not long enough
for me to = guarantee a worthwhile submission,
and 80 cds is = 50 more than I'll ever need.

Also, I'm already on LD3, so = it's nice to give someone else a chance.
(which = is why this is posted to ld)

I will buy a copy of = course.

apologies
andy = butler






david = kirkdorffer wrote:
Sorry you are dropping out Rick.

I think = I mentioned right from the start that the plan was to share production = costs to produce 1000 CD s.

Rick proposes an interesting = option for anyone, however I m not interested in the one-off production = process for the LD CD IV.  
If anyone else would like to back-out, let me = know.

Cheers!

David.

On Wed = Mar 17th, 2010 8:45 PM EDT Rick Walker wrote:

  

=


= --Apple-Mail-53-686620978-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 09:40:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 145E83BE8A; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YcK+3QXtOh4pi4phybf09GABdNTUO3ORfzoRSYuatvY=; b=HLW1FcVVkHy7baxFnRCqi4HKPWwo/rSGNIOeTJuob6z0XXSAb5K+Cmkgp9OVRR60hy imzGOSJdSQpN+kYDSF9eHuGIQUPmduZUU5KVkHznPBs4aTnSJumfZc3yolV7wLgYaDnq O9+B4C0AlhUq7f0Bgc65sPoSoYUxaepB8uwAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UlB/0jOcYZb7CJx5gNnIDhDYDwXnfbH/jdccy/ajFbdGhvlFczHhy8glxTurlQLStX i4J6huBIuJ5mUwpuWx/bm9x+MO7K+4a9oppRuJxaM/YNhhuUTWEc7fj3MHYqDfyw5PGD yvfxmYsQt4llK6Ilm+LiYYgIzXXlcEg3AsnfM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003171502x2e2148bfn8f4266515fac3780@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171502x2e2148bfn8f4266515fac3780@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:40:20 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b1003180240p6ced94acj9494b74d9872dbd3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6471c06e59ac9048210044f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6471c06e59ac9048210044f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry I left those two out. I do have monitor audio input enabled. That's how I also use Mobius standalone. I also have an Aux channel strip with the input set as Bus 1 and the output set to Output 1-2. I can hear my audio going straight through to the output monitoring my live input but if I create a loop on the first track of mobius it seems that there is something looping on the Mobius GUI but there is no audio coming from it. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Todd Matthews > wrote: > > Thanks for these tips Per. I'm pretty sure I have done these already off > the > > top of my head but I will triple check to make sure once I finish making > and > > consuming some delicious chicken tacos. > > Recap: > > Mobius settings: > > Sync = out > > Midi devices, Plugin out=IAC Bus 1 > > Set min and max tempo so Mobius picks a realistic tempo after your first > > loop. > > Mainstage: > > input channel (patch level) : outout set to Bus 1(aux1) > > Concert level - Add software instrument, select Mobius > > Set side chain to Bus 1 on mobius > > Concert level - Fetch tempo from midi input - IAC Bus1 > > > > > > I get input from Duet into Mainstage > > Goes from INput into Bus 1 > > Audio seems to get into Mainstage > > Issues: > > I do not hear any output from Mobius. > > > There should not be any sound if do not have "Monitor Audio Input" > enabled in Mobius. Path: "Configuration/Global Parameters". > > However, my preferred solution is different. I create - in Mainstage > on concert level - an aux channel with input "Bus 1" an output "Main". > And I keep Mobius set to no audio through, only mangled loopse is > coming out from Mobius. That way my instrument's live input sound is > cloned into two paths: one going into Mobius (to maybe get looped) and > the other passing directly to the output. The technical reason for > this choice is that I run the Mobius output through first a low cut > filter and then a tape delay plugin. The low cut filter is needed > because I mangle loops a lot and if a layer is overdubbed when a loop > is transposed up by two octave it can easily blow the PA speakers if > that loop later is played transformed two octaves down ;-)) And the > tape delay is used for dub style effet tweaking and when I do that I > don't want the slaps on my live instrument when playing against the > dub stuff. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --0016e6471c06e59ac9048210044f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry I left those two out. I do have monitor audio input enabled. That'= ;s how I also use Mobius standalone. I also have an Aux channel strip with = the input set as Bus 1 and the output set to Output 1-2. I can hear my audi= o going straight through to the output monitoring my live input but if I cr= eate a loop on the first track of mobius it seems that there is something l= ooping on the Mobius GUI but there is no audio coming from it.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for these tips Per. I'm pretty sure I have done these alrea= dy off the
> top of my head but I will triple check to make sure once I finish maki= ng and
> consuming some delicious chicken tacos.
> Recap:
> Mobius settings:
> Sync =3D out
> Midi devices, Plugin out=3DIAC Bus 1
> Set min and max tempo so Mobius picks a realistic tempo after your fir= st
> loop.
> Mainstage:
> input channel (patch level) : outout set to Bus 1(aux1)
> Concert level - Add software instrument, select Mobius
> Set side chain to Bus 1 on mobius
> Concert level - Fetch tempo from midi input - IAC Bus1
>
>
> I get input from Duet into Mainstage
> Goes from INput into Bus 1
> Audio seems to get into Mainstage
> Issues:
> I do not hear any output from Mobius.


There should not be any sound if do not have "Monitor Audio Inpu= t"
enabled in Mobius. Path: "Configuration/Global Parameters".

However, my preferred solution is different. I create - in Mainstage
on concert level - an aux channel with input "Bus 1" an output &q= uot;Main".
And I keep Mobius set to no audio through, only mangled loopse is
coming out from Mobius. That way my instrument's live input sound is cloned into two paths: one going into Mobius (to maybe get looped) and
the other passing directly to the output. The technical reason for
this choice is that I run the Mobius output through first a low cut
filter and then a tape delay plugin. The low cut filter is needed
because I mangle loops a lot and if a layer is overdubbed when a loop
is transposed up by two octave it can easily blow the PA speakers if
that loop later is played transformed two octaves down ;-)) =A0And the
tape delay is used for dub style effet tweaking and when I do that I
don't want the slaps on my live instrument when playing against the
dub stuff.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


--0016e6471c06e59ac9048210044f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 10:32:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA8863BE8B; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+uzePKCj7EIEYXOVB29Q7aFmWCywcgt8WaxiGOCAAjQ=; b=v+0Rsh9VzzzhTPltxYlOxfNeRccHz5jmaZMzxIV/kAOsRTJHH+9I7yrMo3fFI61D2s Ouz2/9h3yQoLFIAVdSAhiqLObpfi+/6WF1XYJBzvWQET230Jl7UyZBSsRzPL0WdBT/HI OPNyinBhhVTruK2tiveBI6OfGqppum7b72Suk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ox4iZZNn8u0KNGw77Ose2C+ZvnTEMLePY+3azwNTStVh47vequT1YFP1PEZ/fM+AWy pO0TL9+e420y5uDJT+0FJeEUGXTpf1C15j9OXtwZ+CQe8/wj1zJoeXMXO7RV22c3vyDd 7+0Hn7yGDq6baPvOQ+zYIMoHWy+a2tkKigFm8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b1003180240p6ced94acj9494b74d9872dbd3@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171502x2e2148bfn8f4266515fac3780@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003180240p6ced94acj9494b74d9872dbd3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:32:24 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b1003180332p21a63277u61b94eae4c26802f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636eee2d521b65d048210bf9c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:32:25 +0000 (UTC) --001636eee2d521b65d048210bf9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here are the pics documenting my attempt to get audio out of my Mobius loops in Mainstage. I'll try to do a video of my setup process this weekend. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/ On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Sorry I left those two out. I do have monitor audio input enabled. That's > how I also use Mobius standalone. I also have an Aux channel strip with the > input set as Bus 1 and the output set to Output 1-2. I can hear my audio > going straight through to the output monitoring my live input but if I > create a loop on the first track of mobius it seems that there is something > looping on the Mobius GUI but there is no audio coming from it. > > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Todd Matthews >> wrote: >> > Thanks for these tips Per. I'm pretty sure I have done these already off >> the >> > top of my head but I will triple check to make sure once I finish making >> and >> > consuming some delicious chicken tacos. >> > Recap: >> > Mobius settings: >> > Sync = out >> > Midi devices, Plugin out=IAC Bus 1 >> > Set min and max tempo so Mobius picks a realistic tempo after your first >> > loop. >> > Mainstage: >> > input channel (patch level) : outout set to Bus 1(aux1) >> > Concert level - Add software instrument, select Mobius >> > Set side chain to Bus 1 on mobius >> > Concert level - Fetch tempo from midi input - IAC Bus1 >> > >> > >> > I get input from Duet into Mainstage >> > Goes from INput into Bus 1 >> > Audio seems to get into Mainstage >> > Issues: >> > I do not hear any output from Mobius. >> >> >> There should not be any sound if do not have "Monitor Audio Input" >> enabled in Mobius. Path: "Configuration/Global Parameters". >> >> However, my preferred solution is different. I create - in Mainstage >> on concert level - an aux channel with input "Bus 1" an output "Main". >> And I keep Mobius set to no audio through, only mangled loopse is >> coming out from Mobius. That way my instrument's live input sound is >> cloned into two paths: one going into Mobius (to maybe get looped) and >> the other passing directly to the output. The technical reason for >> this choice is that I run the Mobius output through first a low cut >> filter and then a tape delay plugin. The low cut filter is needed >> because I mangle loops a lot and if a layer is overdubbed when a loop >> is transposed up by two octave it can easily blow the PA speakers if >> that loop later is played transformed two octaves down ;-)) And the >> tape delay is used for dub style effet tweaking and when I do that I >> don't want the slaps on my live instrument when playing against the >> dub stuff. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> > --001636eee2d521b65d048210bf9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here are the pics documenting my attempt to get audio out of my Mobius loop= s in Mainstage. I'll try to do a video of my setup process this weekend= .
http://w= ww.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Todd Matthews <<= a href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com> = wrote:
Sorry I left those two out. I do have monit= or audio input enabled. That's how I also use Mobius standalone. I also= have an Aux channel strip with the input set as Bus 1 and the output set t= o Output 1-2. I can hear my audio going straight through to the output moni= toring my live input but if I create a loop on the first track of mobius it= seems that there is something looping on the Mobius GUI but there is no au= dio coming from it.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > Thanks for these tips Per. I'm pretty sure I have done these alrea= dy off the
> top of my head but I will triple check to make sure once I finish maki= ng and
> consuming some delicious chicken tacos.
> Recap:
> Mobius settings:
> Sync =3D out
> Midi devices, Plugin out=3DIAC Bus 1
> Set min and max tempo so Mobius picks a realistic tempo after your fir= st
> loop.
> Mainstage:
> input channel (patch level) : outout set to Bus 1(aux1)
> Concert level - Add software instrument, select Mobius
> Set side chain to Bus 1 on mobius
> Concert level - Fetch tempo from midi input - IAC Bus1
>
>
> I get input from Duet into Mainstage
> Goes from INput into Bus 1
> Audio seems to get into Mainstage
> Issues:
> I do not hear any output from Mobius.


There should not be any sound if do not have "Monitor Audio Inpu= t"
enabled in Mobius. Path: "Configuration/Global Parameters".

However, my preferred solution is different. I create - in Mainstage
on concert level - an aux channel with input "Bus 1" an output &q= uot;Main".
And I keep Mobius set to no audio through, only mangled loopse is
coming out from Mobius. That way my instrument's live input sound is cloned into two paths: one going into Mobius (to maybe get looped) and
the other passing directly to the output. The technical reason for
this choice is that I run the Mobius output through first a low cut
filter and then a tape delay plugin. The low cut filter is needed
because I mangle loops a lot and if a layer is overdubbed when a loop
is transposed up by two octave it can easily blow the PA speakers if
that loop later is played transformed two octaves down ;-)) =A0And the
tape delay is used for dub style effet tweaking and when I do that I
don't want the slaps on my live instrument when playing against the
dub stuff.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



--001636eee2d521b65d048210bf9c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 11:14:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B85CB3BE90; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 361784502/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.211.92/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.211.92 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBABOooUtPTtNc/2dsb2JhbAAH1DGEeQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,265,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="361784502" Message-ID: <4BA20B25.205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:14:45 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New loop music, new techniques, download/stream References: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:14:53 +0000 (UTC) thanks to all who replied, Matt, Bandcamp's a bit scary, they're obviously there for big profit, but their way of making money seems to be "one day, we just charge you whatever we want to". ...but if you had good experience already. I don't immediate plans for another cd, still assimilating the new gear. Meantime there's a couple of new tracks here: http://www.facebook.com/livelooper?v=app_2405167945&ref=profile Stephen, the first 2 demos that sound like they use a shuffle function are actually just done by Replace. In an 8 beat loop you're hearing the following pattern R..R..R. .R..R..R ..R..R.. so typically within a group of 3 you get 3 sections each a beat long, one is delayed by 1 loop, the next by 2 loops and the last by 3 loops. In the demos, I also Multiply the right hand EDP (3 quick presses of Mult just on that machine) which produces another similar pattern. What adds to the impression of shuffle is that I'm often holding notes/chords for one loop duration and then changing to get that abcabcab sound. The 3rd piece indeed uses the ebow to create a loop on the stereo memory man, and the glissando is done with varispeed. Don't think I used the moog filter on that one though, although it's essential to the first 2 pieces. If you're hearing filtering on the ebow sound, then it's just the way I move the ebow around over the p/u. Per yes, that's the Hofner SG with wooden pickups and I was enjoying the growly sounds. I followed your tactful suggestion that a filter is "a useful tool for a guitarist" and now my fizzy distortion tones are tamed by a moogerfooger MF-101 (well *some* of them anyway) Fabio, yep, just replacing every 3rd beat. It's all done by sending midi from the Gordius LG, looks a bit like this Record 8beat delay Record (to end recording) Repeat From Replace On 1beat delay Replace Off 2beat delay Repeat Till so the EDP doesn't use it's quantise features in this case, the power's in the LG which sets all the timing. Michael :-) thank you andy butler andy butler wrote: > here's some of the stuff I've been trying out lately. > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo1.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo2.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-resampleVari.mp3 > > or just stream the lot > > http://www.andybutler.com/andybutler-demos.m3u > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 11:19:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B65283BE93; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 365631893/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.211.92/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.211.92 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAIuooUtPTtNc/2dsb2JhbAAH1DWEeQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,265,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="365631893" Message-ID: <4BA20C26.5080806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:19:02 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs References: <811989.97995.qm@web55206.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <811989.97995.qm@web55206.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi David, sorry to mess everybody about. I'm out. It's gonna be too expensive, 6 weeks is not long enough for me to guarantee a worthwhile submission, and 80 cds is 50 more than I'll ever need. Also, I'm already on LD3, so it's nice to give someone else a chance. (which is why this is posted to ld) I will buy a copy of course. apologies andy butler david kirkdorffer wrote: > Sorry you are dropping out Rick. > > I think I mentioned right from the start that the plan was to share production costs to produce 1000 CD s. > > Rick proposes an interesting option for anyone, however I m not interested in the one-off production process for the LD CD IV. > > If anyone else would like to back-out, let me know. > > Cheers! > > David. > > On Wed Mar 17th, 2010 8:45 PM EDT Rick Walker wrote: > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 11:33:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B21203BE92; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pDOSN2y1A2TMLraeZ7Gjy9HYlHqlrEBabh0hUw6zWZg=; b=gFTMQO3PUdEmiG+oKCfNjw6rxaVXxdbGnFp7eAaRMV2QYQWULGSbtUlW0TkYlMT/Jv F9mlWeUh9XJB+dVicJG0GqOuZO98JclGhpImYn4KCKoRLd2wMecSadcnHVmg2zusmfwg 1HShAsfv/h5gq9p7LM8ONwyLcyVtGALYIGCRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oYCPH3QjFya8T6Ejqf2A27SR/qdrO9jOjrUQk10Y1TPWktsmCgq9PBxEGz6wTpDNBw YoxaijH5ZgiB4uaBW3981TfMVU/Nu3ZtSXFP6EZOTqOTRuPfOUscwBbf8We+u2wNiBcd AD79ouFKJbbmjj1965F0fG85aXQQLuQZOo7FA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b1003180240p6ced94acj9494b74d9872dbd3@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171502x2e2148bfn8f4266515fac3780@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003180240p6ced94acj9494b74d9872dbd3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:33:31 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003180433g4a1f4f40ocfc2a0373986e60c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:33:32 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I can hear my audio going straight through to the output monitoring my live > input but if I create a loop on the first track of mobius it seems that > there is something looping on the Mobius GUI but there is no audio coming > from it. Maybe you have not set the track outputs for Mobius as a plugin? Path: "Configuration/Track Setup". Over here I have set all eight tracks to "Plugin Output Port = 1" and it works for summing tracks in Mobius. If running the Mobius plugin with multiple outputs you should direct each Mobius track to its own corresponding output. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 11:37:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C956B3BEA4; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m+6D51Cpuqjp0ztywy+8C+J9COwmBlsWbbAxEa1BRnQ=; b=fFB51clt6IuQaqg/wm6kTbUFhDKuG110r8qb+Gt9CRwspMW5wFGQ+b+/VplZsrHUiF 3Mfqh+hMWmKKrBmAbO6Q5uezkNvmD/Xi1rIYKnbA+wtCzRLNYx0h9zIsUOcTxBkVpVd/ 8D5x1WF4TxYcTz+vBVPp2JT/mRV/BF5Ng/6aI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mmJjR9o5EtUFakxX9mU0tuStGTZLhOSw7Yw558Nmv8FjAEIsJUxJdrYq6ZzagbrKHk T9+TeX+eX2LDpIIVw2PFHD18NU6lJgOdU7gJoU+TS0DbvJfpEECq8JQxasXiK/cVeikr en44j4k3kHa1ZmXsiJfMrA6K6RSCIWclEcIO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b1003180332p21a63277u61b94eae4c26802f@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171502x2e2148bfn8f4266515fac3780@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003180240p6ced94acj9494b74d9872dbd3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003180332p21a63277u61b94eae4c26802f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:37:03 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003180437o761cf3c9v2d5cfcce78dd6b60@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:37:04 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Here are the pics documenting my attempt to get audio out of my Mobius loops > in Mainstage. I'll try to do a video of my setup process this weekend. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/ Yes, my recent guess was correct. This picture shows that you have chosen "output 2" as the output for Mobius plugin track 2. But if you not running Mobius in multi output mode only output 1 works and should be used for all tracks. But you should still be hearing loops laid down on track 1 with these settings. Maybe you just didn't try starting on that track? per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 11:59:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACA9B3BEBE; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1268913540; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=pZ1/IOm8Inwdui5/6eu88/ol3AU=; b=j/RlxshgcCa3gLcX6I1rRv4ukvso9qSPkSq17KCRu4cyTpn20MGZj0x328dINW3C Am8tuxRb5mYJzBqhRUa0ldB+Bu3AhfFLIDnYszrig9t5ikFd+4r4CdohWKLhS46+; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=2ZBYOLqXsMmlRQLJS/1LD3uydY8IGNsc9AToSpWcxXY= c=1 sm=0 a=eFvycUmYG0kA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=LpG3DN/w7vwRw+uu/tXf+g==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gycxc4XgAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=Zqm-j7k0ccRhXsRe8UYA:9 a=_29BIgCSqahEpV9YOosA:7 a=9UOZfUvQsnFJKr9mjbfdXbeT-AgA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=QBuL9UDbGVN_v9mW:21 a=8j2LCKoFUlKFuR6u:21 a=LpG3DN/w7vwRw+uu/tXf+g==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <005301cac692$63190770$39f43747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> <000e01cac652$594dcf90$0be96eb0$@com> Subject: Re: for your listening pleasure... Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:58:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Really nice tune there Tony! After 4 hours in ninjam sessions it was the perfect way to top of my musical adventures for the day. Great when things just pop out like that. I hope to hear much more from you, always a pleasure! best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" To: Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:20 AM Subject: for your listening pleasure... >I was suddenly inspired to turn on all my stuff and record tonight. (I've > been playing acoustic/classical for the last few months.) > > This appeared. > > http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Tentacles.mp3 > > Equipment (for those who are interested) > > Brian Moore iGuitar -> GR-50 -> Korg M3R -> ModFX -> DD20 -> Vortex -> > RSP550 > > Enjoy, > > Tony > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2751 - Release Date: 03/16/10 19:33:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 12:21:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71E1C3BEC7; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V1Bb5EpxifiwOYTJp0RCA9LPMGJIg2MvqgNI2mY4ivY=; b=bVNypkO+K/ZRMaZ4643cHft5cl89Uoz7bnSnxJxpVaDkW47VC+I9EfCaq4YjfB4a4+ M3nRUAQg6eROa/Ugp7QfIksF6IOzz6qYU9c+SV8bsrIhwY0E3zOHssNhKWuPVAP/1XFs cSEx9snpebURSbuaNX9w3XCdRYH+2HmgUbmWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Rq5zzK2q+ber7PDU/eg/UkcUyCTl0tHEfaMUuChsi1Sd9KU+gpRjo7PbFltSGdWXIt v9vEYo3VOttmAzR6D7GZ95we4FIbLv3qmplUULx+WSoOtTO+ia88dZAbif2NCGgI15ne 1KAPDkwgNqDYBRYNyuqzkyZ55zL1NxF5y3s1o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44e368751003172027p4ade5aer5b0d92f0fe7c7856@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <44e368751003172027p4ade5aer5b0d92f0fe7c7856@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:21:09 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003180521l5dee6079pb786e2845af5ad46@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: komplete vs. ableton From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:21:11 +0000 (UTC) After reading about how you work and your intentions I agree that it seems as the NI stuff hosted in Bidule would become a very rewarding setup for you. What you lose out on compared to Ableton is sequencing capabilities. But you may do other cool things like setting up KOntakt 4 patches of multiple loops or wire up a bunch of that little step sequencing group that comes with the latest Bidule upgrade. You may work with tap tempo solutions in Kontakt or Bidule... or use Mobius to set a tempo that Bidule fetches through the IAC Bus into a "MIDI Clock To Sync" object that all other hosted plugins pick their tempo from. Bidule is a wonderfully open system. BTW, if you are into live sequencing you may also enjoy Numerology as a host for the NI Komplete stuff. http://www.five12.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:27 AM, james fowler wrote: > "You can use Live=E2=80=99s instruments with other applications if they s= upport > ReWire" > > so when it says on ableton's site that: > > "collision requires ableton live 8 or higher" > > this is, in fact, not true?=C2=A0 it seemed to me that all of the program= s within > live were proprietary. > > purchasing both ableton and komplete is not a financial option right now. > > anyhow, getting back to the meat and potatoes of the initial question: > > i'm running everything in bidule.=C2=A0 i think i mentioned this, but jus= t to > reiterate: i love bidule. it's bone-simple but deep enough once you start > digging.=C2=A0 loads of options and i get along with it swimmingly. > > the sampler is of paramount importance.=C2=A0 i love sampling crap, proce= ssing > the shit out of it and then using it as it's own instrument.=C2=A0 so in = that > regard, kontakt is sorta critical.=C2=A0 i've been using short circuit bu= t > kontakt is approximately 4000 times better. > i live fm and absynth and battery as well...the arpeggiator in fm is pret= ty > uninquel=C2=A0 i definitely prefer the pre-packaged sounds in komplete ov= er those > offered by ableton. > > regarding live performance, most of what i do is done on-the-spot with no= t a > lot of sequence triggering or what-have-you.=C2=A0 i am (and have been) l= eaning > towards native instruments but wanted to see if anyone could dissuade me. > > - jim > > From John@itwv.net Thu Mar 18 12:56:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.thescyocs.com (mail.thescyocs.com [208.180.139.83]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091B63BEC5; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([82.128.81.18] RDNS failed) by mail.thescyocs.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:25:25 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dr Kingsley Paul" Subject: YOUR PAYMENT NOTIFICATION Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:34:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2010 12:25:26.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[16D0FEF0:01CAC696] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Zenith Bank ATM RE:YOUR PAYMENT NOTIFICATION From:Dr Kingsley Paul. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 14:10:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D94E73BEDA; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=unBHCtEMRRwur9k9jYWpSa8kY24iu8czaRNQvdoDD1Q=; b=wmzr+3bClE5JfsqJ1/Y46zhHBaxS2eQI7CkBS3dMJ/LeISMga0tsgKXtFfTl3h132U f184FT4ZxNK+0LEd1hm71Fr9eLcPmtsXtRz6hrV9+8/4yoMcPKZYFaPaYTFgxaJzAw3/ 5UBm71BgEzPGGPfltv7Zd2/qu8kpsuQ5tovug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ozYVA6ZBYdGOCoX0SCokwS9glEPgVEOyO7GiG/Enyg1ap/Ov82umL9YpYz65XsM59l MVvtF8lYPIyohzH/ErKe4YyXmL3wfXC5wB8MR+Hmpbe2vW3iNgcPBDs3l6GCUUprahsy bxllzFndBX19A7K8re12YBhBNSV+SmkEKJqPY= Sender: daryl shawn Message-ID: <4BA23461.5030302@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:10:41 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD CD IV - The Participants References: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:10:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a great project, and I'll look forward to buying a copy (especially to finally hear a recording from Duke!). I know the plan is already firmly in place, but I just wanted to point out the Kunaki CD option, which Krispen hipped me to a few years ago and which I've now used for five releases. You can order any quantity of CD's at a time - yes, even a single copy - with four-color printing, bar code and shrinkwrap for about $1.75 a disc (not setup costs). The only thing I don't like is that the tray card is only a single sheet, so you don't have as much room for artwork. But they've never let me down, and it's been extremely convenient for me to simply order more CD's in small quantities as I need them. www.kunaki.com Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hello - > > > > Yesterday I proposed creating another Loopers-Delight compilation CD, > gathering examples of our Looping music. > > Today we have a full roster of participants! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 14:26:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BABC23BEDD; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e1003180521l5dee6079pb786e2845af5ad46@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Ableton Question Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:26:02 -0500 References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <44e368751003172027p4ade5aer5b0d92f0fe7c7856@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180521l5dee6079pb786e2845af5ad46@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <72U6GD.A.9FC.pgjoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Are any of you boys and girls triggering live scenes from your MIDI controllers? If so, how's that working out? Any issues/problems? Can you start/stop particular scenes easily? I'll be trying to set this up with my controller soon. Just curious if any of you have had success doing this. Thank you. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 14:54:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C94E03BEE6; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WF/j/zIDMCtaDkh7CWt6DXItohVeyfHoeaO4ZWwmhGU=; b=q03e/aEj+DAaSIjMc3A22UVJ8McjVApUQubnV2qmGLe3QoKoWzzdNgSiMR/AfrlAOT hDZYMqcY4txUm/6ral1u2/fygZgPh8te3OJNnbaGKgCjzQmE8g7QR1Ob8peovfjUMwz5 NeQEdnFzabCnp6RNh1+nm4zcD/wekykgCA+y0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Bbr2BdMLSdQEDfpUTQpf7KmjjrYyfQLe8PVc7FaRDgT08WaFmJ+FQ4NC4J7vRLnHYx vDkxednOyH2H+V5laOeq6ZTDw3Rzw1civ5hbYvcg79dYRzzWN3SDN5tgP2Bq2oK2faWq //bnhUqSBMU1Xgrk+X3HSAnzLEIn9Pp3EWfmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <44e368751003172027p4ade5aer5b0d92f0fe7c7856@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180521l5dee6079pb786e2845af5ad46@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:54:39 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003180754l20e2714cvde63b0f39248b9cd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton Question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Two major hints to get going with that: You can set the quantization of the clip launching either locally for each individual clip or to follow the global quantization in Live (that you might want to adjust while playing for each musical situation: cmd/ctr + a number key or by MIDI binding to whatever you have at hand/foot). You can also chose between different launch modes for clips, which makes them behave a little differently. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Are any of you boys and girls triggering live scenes from your MIDI > controllers? If so, how's that working out? Any issues/problems? Can you > start/stop particular scenes easily? I'll be trying to set this up with my > controller soon. Just curious if any of you have had success doing this. > > Thank you. > > Jeff > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 14:58:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A21493BEF3; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Nz9r/5+ohbHo4AXfC7hGUskZCeYxh1YBRhoS5s+MJzk=; b=nCGP3Bn8cm+8p72Apw64/ZTJ5tALTFhbgbW0FyXiaUXu5GCNr0b9I4mvun/mrKynjv g5KzL1dvUovez57SVQNe5z5oUSXZt4KFysinze74upJ/auvs4DiR7rgxfzq/0VKLMxd7 Kf+QSIeNXJAjC43C1IzFNb/f44/FXHfHBHk4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cJB1tnGXcavgcU5MKbDywsGeNE5qPUMrXbPTi8tAhUua0OmFh6i7zy4q3EIWVXSGjx BRNw7sMp47lyGYDaE6GeW5BeTtw3gfiP8GvNWlEl650ClGMwnW1GlhwWI4vCLoSIJ9OZ 6KWyp8G4uHdxj9TT6pdUh41ehEjAo7tNcmkmE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003180754l20e2714cvde63b0f39248b9cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <44e368751003172027p4ade5aer5b0d92f0fe7c7856@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180521l5dee6079pb786e2845af5ad46@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180754l20e2714cvde63b0f39248b9cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:58:00 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003180758x1844939end7600cec512c22bc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton Question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Add: and for scenes this is also how it works. Empty clips at the master strip launch the scene of its horizontal row and if you are not slave syncing Live you can type in a BPM value into the master clip to launch the corresponding scene at a new tempo. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Two major hints to get going with that: > You can set the quantization of the clip launching either locally for > each individual clip or to follow the global quantization in Live > (that you might want to adjust while playing for each musical > situation: cmd/ctr + a number key or by MIDI binding to whatever you > have at hand/foot). You can also chose between different launch modes > for clips, which makes them behave a little differently. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: >> Are any of you boys and girls triggering live scenes from your MIDI >> controllers? If so, how's that working out? Any issues/problems? Can you >> start/stop particular scenes easily? I'll be trying to set this up with my >> controller soon. Just curious if any of you have had success doing this. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 15:04:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 784953BEEC; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2BMSz7441eAyUj61zUiIiX6eYeDtwQAabYblSN0nxy4=; b=pQkTE3Xj6is6umrFPHgs1xmhCBLmSlRP8r3BPndagYjco8q56Ozp1B8SoeIGTnR8p7 5CQc6L27+EwpsTS2OPrWkTKb4go0wXYn6YBUvP2CLJ7x5kftbz9KovIb1FLro4iJnff3 zlWYTE5TsUsLH0OG4Iz7M8ug5FslfWhpC4gL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Fwcv0BxXY53Vwmc+jxTOQGEFoKEx+zf9eINdR8LVANsSaW4QBrDrugGnVWedeZ2rdg DgW/FF+XM/GYJh/lsSA67sW60yZTZ9D+bvYJBWdAwCa/rUPn/BJcO8GY/sSeXKjOp3+h ZlhPPQstaBDQBYThPcxSSRlqEA1eKejLiHLWE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BA23461.5030302@mhorse.com> References: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <4BA23461.5030302@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:04:12 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c01003180804r3e02f642qef2b9ec443e7d02c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: LD CD IV - The Participants From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3t7IAD.A.MED.vDkoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Actually I think the prices are even lower than that now (if you buy 10 or less at a time-its more expensive to buy more strangely enough). I use them for DVDs and think they're great. I've been very happy with the results. Kevin On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > This is a great project, and I'll look forward to buying a copy (especially > to finally hear a recording from Duke!). I know the plan is already firmly > in place, but I just wanted to point out the Kunaki CD option, which Krispen > hipped me to a few years ago and which I've now used for five releases. You > can order any quantity of CD's at a time - yes, even a single copy - with > four-color printing, bar code and shrinkwrap for about $1.75 a disc (not > setup costs). The only thing I don't like is that the tray card is only a > single sheet, so you don't have as much room for artwork. But they've never > let me down, and it's been extremely convenient for me to simply order more > CD's in small quantities as I need them. > > www.kunaki.com > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > >> Hello - >> >> >> Yesterday I proposed creating another Loopers-Delight compilation CD, >> gathering examples of our Looping music. >> >> Today we have a full roster of participants! >> > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 15:19:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42EB73BF00; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lKg7m7ZA2SaYPRP0hhyu2ZWtbhjDmJLOEoRBvQRaQp0=; b=xYBVm2vMm2T8Eb82YH3iFsOcEZRgZrtEyRrrLkOjfBNgu0DJ0DUHXmUCUzpygO7oxH a/lU8Dns2IiZQxNlvqBWRvuJwL98RLCyHA338B7ZYAS+QDLyeDRU2L4efLqll4fHIja2 DPbMtN4mXKN6xhCq0twhXDpr1LlHWlRXIlgAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=K5W1AHtkXioneFX3ByyG7FnGR+Y7ERsbRXWJ1J5jpq3g7qTyoWOJT/buMmkhq4yCnU CmW+AZW9topoGAHne6/7mekYuHjKAVJdtLz/kzb/Sbw3x2HTzjD9e8NLvjC5lzv7qsvh kjyQuuyjt7WZ8CHr3ErY6+mDat0nmP5BzjZZw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c01003180804r3e02f642qef2b9ec443e7d02c@mail.gmail.com> References: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <4BA23461.5030302@mhorse.com> <37f071c01003180804r3e02f642qef2b9ec443e7d02c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:18:59 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003180818r33e7d540j11ab658dbb27032e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: LD CD IV - The Participants From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517447f400ea516048214c008 Resent-Message-ID: <9GFK-D.A.FYD.oRkoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:04 +0000 (UTC) --001517447f400ea516048214c008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I echo Daryl and Kevin and yes the prices are down on Kunaki. I launched a new project, Digitsignal's new record just recently on Kunaki. It's alive on Bandcamp and the Kunaki physical I'm about to publish as official. I'm reviewing the test copy. I think this undertaking by LD is excellent. I would agree with many of Rick's thoughts though. I too in the 90's used to sell a fair number of CD's at shows and even online but since the millenium I've seen a real decline in this. Many have shifted to digital download and abandoned the physical CD as they did vinyl. I did a run of a 1000 with my first record in 1999 and though moved a fair number about 300 still occupy my studio space. For every project since I've done short run to have a few on hand for gifts and promos and honestly I think short-run is the most sensible these days meaning fewer than a 100. Even my publisher Mel Bay has discontinued large runs. I was fortunate to get my first book as a 1000 release but my next, due this summer was edicted as an online ondemand download. It's all a sign of the times. Still I wish the LD project the best. I've been very active in ImprovFriday of late and they are occasionally doing releases. I really do think this community is overdue to put it's 'art' out there so best with it. Jim On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Actually I think the prices are even lower than that now (if you buy > 10 or less at a time-its more expensive to buy more strangely enough). > I use them for DVDs and think they're great. I've been very happy > with the results. > > Kevin > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > This is a great project, and I'll look forward to buying a copy > (especially > > to finally hear a recording from Duke!). I know the plan is already > firmly > > in place, but I just wanted to point out the Kunaki CD option, which > Krispen > > hipped me to a few years ago and which I've now used for five releases. > You > > can order any quantity of CD's at a time - yes, even a single copy - with > > four-color printing, bar code and shrinkwrap for about $1.75 a disc (not > > setup costs). The only thing I don't like is that the tray card is only a > > single sheet, so you don't have as much room for artwork. But they've > never > > let me down, and it's been extremely convenient for me to simply order > more > > CD's in small quantities as I need them. > > > > www.kunaki.com > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > >> Hello - > >> > >> > >> Yesterday I proposed creating another Loopers-Delight compilation CD, > >> gathering examples of our Looping music. > >> > >> Today we have a full roster of participants! > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001517447f400ea516048214c008 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I echo Daryl and Kevin and yes the prices are down on Kunaki.=A0 I launched= a new project, Digitsignal's new record just recently on Kunaki.=A0 It= 's alive on Bandcamp an= d the Kunaki physical I'm about to publish as official.=A0 I'm revi= ewing the test copy.

I think this undertaking by LD is excellent.=A0 I would agree with many= of Rick's thoughts though.=A0 I too in the 90's used to sell a fai= r number of CD's at shows and even online but since the millenium I'= ;ve seen a real decline in this.=A0 Many have shifted to digital download a= nd abandoned the physical CD as they did vinyl.

I did a run of a 1000 with my first record in 1999 and though moved a f= air number about 300 still occupy my studio space.=A0 For every project sin= ce I've done short run to have a few on hand for gifts and promos and h= onestly I think short-run is the most sensible these days meaning fewer tha= n a 100.

Even my publisher Mel Bay has discontinued large runs.=A0 I was fortuna= te to get my first book as a 1000 release but my next, due this summer was = edicted as an online ondemand download.

It's all a sign of the t= imes.=A0 Still I wish the LD project the best.=A0 I've been very active= in ImprovFriday of late and they are occasionally doing releases.=A0 I rea= lly do think this community is overdue to put it's 'art' out th= ere so best with it.

Jim

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM,= Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually I think the prices are even lower than that now (if you buy
10 or less at a time-its more expensive to buy more strangely enough).
=A0I use them for DVDs and think they're great. =A0I've been very h= appy
with the results.

Kevin

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
> This is a great project, and I'll look forward to buying a copy (e= specially
> to finally hear a recording from Duke!). I know the plan is already fi= rmly
> in place, but I just wanted to point out the Kunaki CD option, which K= rispen
> hipped me to a few years ago and which I've now used for five rele= ases. You
> can order any quantity of CD's at a time - yes, even a single copy= - with
> four-color printing, bar code and shrinkwrap for about $1.75 a disc (n= ot
> setup costs). The only thing I don't like is that the tray card is= only a
> single sheet, so you don't have as much room for artwork. But they= 've never
> let me down, and it's been extremely convenient for me to simply o= rder more
> CD's in small quantities as I need them.
>
> www.kunaki.com=
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder= .com
> www.ch= inapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>> Hello -
>>
>>
>> Yesterday I proposed creating another Loopers-Delight compilation = CD,
>> gathering examples of our Looping music.
>>
>> Today we have a full roster of participants!
>>
>
>



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos




--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural
www.my= space.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001517447f400ea516048214c008-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 15:48:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C2FC3BEF4; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB806 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=9qvXUd7X6quWxR6xT5mm26etJulh1yWOkuZa6SVjLCg= c=1 sm=0 a=oQGSMPW7L7sA:10 a=9dIwJKfF5xcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=OyOLhbarAAAA:8 a=9VUHpvItTcyjIUINzmsA:9 a=cb0GFPhuVGvkkRA7uW5jbeCOiZsA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=3GpFfzojnSEA:10 a=SLsCYvl6UnbcRPAVQYmgCg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Message-ID: <20100318104814.77KR3.554358.root@ispmxfep11-z02> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 8:48:14 -0700 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (semi-OT) Richard Pinhas & Merzbow Cc: Revfever In-Reply-To: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: 173.190.19.217 X-Auth-IP: 173.190.19.217 Resent-Message-ID: <1mV3UB.A.v3D.AtkoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:48:16 +0000 (UTC) I dug it as well... I've been an admirer of Pinhas for a long time and I've always had a fond place in my heart for Merzbow ( at least his 80's and early 90's incarnations )..still, prejudice aside, this stuff is very much worth hearing... Cuneiform came through once again.. ---- Revfever wrote: > I finally got around to hearing an early 2008 2CD release of a > Richard Pinhas (Heldon) & Merzbow collaboration entitled "Keio Line" > and is SPECTACULAR! > This is one of the BEST things I have heard in a loooong time! And > yes, there is a ton of loopage all over the place on it! > It is always a joy when 2 LONG time masters meet and work together > and the results turn out to be ASTOUNDING! This is very highly > REVcommended! Enjoy! > > Cheers, > Rev. Fever > Portland, Oregon > The Angry Red Planet > :-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 16:11:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC8FE3BEDA; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3615 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:11:37 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e1003180758x1844939end7600cec512c22bc@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Ableton Question Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:10:46 -0500 References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <44e368751003172027p4ade5aer5b0d92f0fe7c7856@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180521l5dee6079pb786e2845af5ad46@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180754l20e2714cvde63b0f39248b9cd@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180758x1844939end7600cec512c22bc@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Add: and for scenes this is also how it works. Empty clips at the > master strip launch the scene of its horizontal row and if you are not > slave syncing Live you can type in a BPM value into the master clip to > launch the corresponding scene at a new tempo. Thanks...I have set each scene to have its own tempo. So, I'm pretty sure I have that part straight. I was curious about what kind of command you send to start/stop a scene. I'm sure it's in the manual somewhere. I just haven't gotten to that part yet. Do you have a dedicated start/stop switch for Live on your MIDI controller? Thanks again, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 16:15:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D008A3BEA0; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kJsOXuC2jeGLlmcQ5RJ9R2sw+yX1gmh/JSvgw6Jcqag=; b=YM4lg5lQKxl1t3CD9wFrXKulfh3zRfZtGoHT74PsrXXnk5/2BB1CtZUR0vXIjykvd9 msYnOWVeqf6qKa9nQF0hpKVtOR4hrcp+zsKGY+tZPXc3yc4jWiKLObaqiUf+J9a16/Hj xWdKYB0iKTMXhHJllHXjyUsU4gjFZJVMVBH94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HiEtbQvQRbNCWDG8TlIuQ2/3ZF6HXwLz7IBTk0IYIYS3HbjST6pueBzzSNJ8JUiwz9 NBkxWEsPp1kcItmucgLQMKVNWHrJRYKXUrMuZrOCWLvBHQYqUChBIeS8vUdkcX+OK9PY N8Pc86sd5o/VIC5oAlkwjDqHMBkSaVqr/wUUw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <44e368751003161722h5d2cf94fve9431aa7bdc1a92f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003170914i5b760613ga243119e4d87ae83@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171143u509fc18diaf27ad977ff6fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <44e368751003172027p4ade5aer5b0d92f0fe7c7856@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180521l5dee6079pb786e2845af5ad46@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180754l20e2714cvde63b0f39248b9cd@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180758x1844939end7600cec512c22bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:15:29 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003180915h7b8b98d6i8adb161983b57ede@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton Question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Any MIDI event work if you assign it to the clip's "start button". Well, at least MIDI notes do. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > Add: and for scenes this is also how it works. Empty clips at the >> >> master strip launch the scene of its horizontal row and if you are not >> slave syncing Live you can type in a BPM value into the master clip to >> launch the corresponding scene at a new tempo. > > Thanks...I have set each scene to have its own tempo. So, I'm pretty sure I > have that part straight. I was curious about what kind of command you send > to start/stop a scene. I'm sure it's in the manual somewhere. I just haven't > gotten to that part yet. Do you have a dedicated start/stop switch for Live > on your MIDI controller? > > Thanks again, > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 16:26:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 354C53BE97; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gMdF1ekwpIN9L1OPAQm+Ef8xv/S8/I0Xtf7o9/6xBk0=; b=gHEnkifNscDtPYD1atFD+EnX62WZgNNniYIazG92tvFwNYvfYZ6GhM7DbLZot/bI0r qYvuo7K8i3Yl9KnywcarpZuARQzHWshom4McLwLyNAFIDyaQRXMMH+aJ3wdwcOKVZnEp 43DPaWo1Z30FXa5eHbMzpPpgU0V02Z++NdGk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=k1fqx8zUHCb31ktZtqMqr4fg1dGI4341q0djtKLQI7EPhSEDHwUeTVBDwEstFTzxjL gEguC0ng+31WWHXgq8JEvHt7YqdDc9+6Nz3bNFExczGhFIb2vohn1wHpqtAJvpCZdPuk +J6jQZJXWOeaMyfIVE2fHQLTYx2KddPP2WhDY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> References: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:26:01 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d1003180926u2b45fccds987e0184f3ff708c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: (semi-OT) Richard Pinhas & Merzbow From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48308c482cf048215afd7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48308c482cf048215afd7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks! I've only listened to the first track, but it's a F***ink outstanding piece of music! I pulled out my old copy of Heldon V and gave it a listen as well. I think Keio Line is much better. Dark guitar process music. Nice, analog, twist the knob electronic music. Rich timbres. I think this music is going to age very well. Very Cool! On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Revfever wrote: > I finally got around to hearing an early 2008 2CD release of a Richard > Pinhas (Heldon) & Merzbow collaboration entitled "Keio Line" and is > SPECTACULAR! > This is one of the BEST things I have heard in a loooong time! And yes, > there is a ton of loopage all over the place on it! > It is always a joy when 2 LONG time masters meet and work together and the > results turn out to be ASTOUNDING! This is very highly REVcommended! > Enjoy! > > Cheers, > Rev. Fever > Portland, Oregon > The Angry Red Planet > :-) > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --000e0cd48308c482cf048215afd7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks!

I've only listened to the first track, but it's a F*= **ink outstanding piece of music! I pulled out my old copy of Heldon V and = gave it a listen as well. I think Keio Line is much better. Dark guitar pro= cess music. Nice, analog, twist the knob electronic music. Rich timbres. I = think this music is going to age very well. Very Cool!

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
I finally got around to hearing an early 2008 2CD release of a Richard Pinh= as (Heldon) =A0& Merzbow collaboration entitled "Keio Line" a= nd is SPECTACULAR!
This is one of the BEST things I have heard in a loooong time! =A0And yes, = there is a ton of loopage all over the place on it!
It is always a joy when 2 LONG time masters meet and work together and the = results turn out to be ASTOUNDING! =A0 This is very highly REVcommended! En= joy!

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, Oregon
The Angry Red Planet
:-)




--
Art Simon
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--000e0cd48308c482cf048215afd7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 16:46:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF5A43BE85; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 651077.2884.bm@omp115.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268930796; bh=nXimJibmubmXXPkbfXgV1EInYwF+vpC7ScfdP0EgCbU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CvV/likI+jVwkcdF269b6wNT6agP9qgWNy9iyZRprasdsnx7YyPgXTq6WHGP1+ELe/ptIePbkh1HeXbk7u+0SyR/vxhLi6h0UCU0QJbWXe84X+MhJ+53vAaA6jMmqj8YU9egVSBxZ4MeBFLJFG2bkY5hXD/6KGVTXtVtsVQIn/k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yTn7GJI7gbn+72cHyhRFZ4dQtxhN+5LnWBpjTq8/wwMWZL7Sn4fB2VRFsSHeYCt4qkwetqTJtqWMoy4GeAhnKdEBVoRZ0rnofQo2Zp0mc5O7Iz4qG6XyDgHSzgdTIhAhHaFPKvptMrr1ykoSMxW237zlfi13oCFiXMU9J+4WrxI=; Message-ID: <486855.48500.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VJqL_VkVM1lKcP3_oBeLKBrqy60Tx_oZaR8x5sDrs5btbV3 BZ2LY.Wc4ZE.CfRBe1PNaHr.geVRJCbmrkgx0GBTlK3scgrbauS4l6tJGBQe DeI_hWI7eGgWIizCRD_K8zzqWmigAPDzj7mGV8rUE8IrXXzQeR65gfRUo1q8 VZQq0K_JU2aBsH7Yghpi35gl3YosWLOuXMs7fKJ.Gs0pqz23d8aj3gJHsNvb LMxMjWjVt_qycxmDsAcTCe_E.LN3GBtVzi_oN3eIRrGrgYb02ygOysIVL__. fHLTsgV59.FTP0XcVPaqCf.gfe.B2VG4iIgGx_zQynTKHhip7xzjiMJB94ds Sl_JaIQxdyMbRbEJLdzR_qQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: Ableton Question To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <_yTq3D.A.5FF.tjloLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Just make a MIDI assignment like you would for any clip. Go to the MiDi assign page top right, click, click on scene button end of row on right, then move a midi control or hit a midi key. Antony Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: Add: and for scenes this is also how it works. Empty clips at the master strip launch the scene of its horizontal row and if you are not slave syncing Live you can type in a BPM value into the master clip to launch the corresponding scene at a new tempo. Thanks...I have set each scene to have its own tempo. So, I'm pretty sure I have that part straight. I was curious about what kind of command you send to start/stop a scene. I'm sure it's in the manual somewhere. I just haven't gotten to that part yet. Do you have a dedicated start/stop switch for Live on your MIDI controller? Thanks again, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 16:50:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C46B3BE86; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 684989.2884.bm@omp115.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268931031; bh=Lw2nAj5BVWX4xui0sR4GbbJKl/4NAC9tPYbwMLWyJw0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2j9W25g8n9ucgWGr1SIpBU1z5ir2L5/x47Ud4Ah26nL48pGC0ahM7eJZPiL8WEz7DkXrvIOJWojotx2gmzSpaL3vGYD01C6iMb+cjS1MqeB29xEhGasKrH18TvpzFIUamKSiIlKwi4DUZIkrTYUo6m11YtMioVVFB9HyVifh6YU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RNEIEuz+yMoXtxuSNmtmnDSaAN3/xmgMs+Bz2wYZZn/zhJTKFdXoyGFgDxY1+exc+RzqzAfFP9vzUnjn+MvbGEqsWcYqKHwhSoA9UkCVkybvBu7vgTJABUUafveK3m1RClUINou/8JIzpsX250J2MjU5kytbHh1Pqgykjlscn0E=; Message-ID: <533823.19942.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bVEXIQUVM1kUqloqGO16lb9tohNDD92xSUwbUyfVWkNfldK6YxJDEVxBeP55U7yWWr6U8MJli4dIi9oXBC5FrcVFPElZK9MxtNc2HVPjd3.sQulLsrlOiIDNzmPp8FDqYD1NjyIM8J4mgnqNXipF3tZ0oCMIXcMT85uoTFlN92_GoTeSL6aI5SEACKe.TV9Z7EVaDL6aEjTqSfcxg0uCHVb2BX0we._8bG7i1dapqHjWk8bT5Gl8NNU1X64GNQkkL8NYyiaZiPipf7rSFQxNNAdUWCZkERaNA7sMLQkrFZ3y9vt0EfxnXCesN5oyXI6bE.6bxv2E6hP_4SM1T6s_9EA2UaFFSRoEzZ7y7jICDpIyufA8T6oim.wAh9I2h6UslYRtJCymFA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:50:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Antony Hequet Subject: OT Ztar To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:50:32 +0000 (UTC) I am about to put my Ztar MiniZ with 8 strip controllers on the market. It's knew and has wireless MIDI. Made a casting mistake. Coming to the US in a couple of weeks. Leaving Holland any day know, anyone interested let me know quickly. Antony Hequet antonyhequet@yahoo.com Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: Any MIDI event work if you assign it to the clip's "start button". Well, at least MIDI notes do. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: Add: and for scenes this is also how it works. Empty clips at the master strip launch the scene of its horizontal row and if you are not slave syncing Live you can type in a BPM value into the master clip to launch the corresponding scene at a new tempo. Thanks...I have set each scene to have its own tempo. So, I'm pretty sure I have that part straight. I was curious about what kind of command you send to start/stop a scene. I'm sure it's in the manual somewhere. I just haven't gotten to that part yet. Do you have a dedicated start/stop switch for Live on your MIDI controller? Thanks again, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 16:58:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 437793BE90; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hvk90KaU6ZPvwCOEBiJUungXdfORQ+6pgO932dsfxeI=; b=i5fFszPQHH/Ytmm55UtyFH0rLeT+ztM72qsW1qMs89K98+FKO3h9sFCI6qglEUhs9i N8wAi6D6be4XQl2m3xZ8x2UQGBCYQbsqjCx7m/6Z2TFb+uqRsCiRCHBYBlRxOP3vxbEG m4OH7TI8GTcCgKj2ezmPVKInCfeyBrp0CXEpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ESKUWfassoBhCZTt5uvNsaBv8cSlTjQhxlwIJ4OljG8Q6tUNKYdRZTc0YWaAlN9ZWk LqUuNS/x4pr+6E2vEOav3fGYgyXGJvMHJLhiYL10IquT5GUD7rK8UZKD054hxHB2RRi+ mCrfAl00FZSm2XUH+tKeHBTKYd+CXNrHeFFic= Message-ID: <4BA25BB4.2010707@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:58:28 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs Rick's advice References: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <4BA177C0.7020501@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4BA177C0.7020501@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > * For what it's worth, I have this gratuitous advice for the project: > > In the past four years CD sales have almost ceased to exist for most > independent musicians. > I use to sell 20 - 50 CDs a show back in 2001-2003 and I don't even > take the CDs to shows any more. > > Most artists I know who still put out CDs have gone to the model of > having them manufactured (at a higher but not by much > per CD basis) when they are sold (Krispen Hartung is a really good > resource for this method and has used it very successfully > for his releases). > > One can even have 'one off' DVDs made that have the audio files for > playing in CD players and computers, > high and low quality MP3s for those who want iPod play, all the > graphics for booklets in a printable form (.pdf) > * On which I'd like to comment, as well as on David's business plan (in no specific order): I. There are more possible reasons to want to have a large number of your CDs than to make profit selling them. Some people like to give them away. Some are even able to generate profit out of that (using it as a marketing tool; I'm too lazy to do the search myself, but there was a lengthy post here some years ago by someone who gave away CDs simply to generate a fan base). II. If you decide on having physical CDs (for whatever reason), the three methods available known to me for unsigned artists have their different advantages and disadvantages: a) the do-it-yourself approach: I don't like it at all because it takes a lot of work (by you) which I'd rather spend on other things (which could be either making music or just getting drunk, whichever you prefer). Pros: manufactured on a just-in-time basis. You have full control over the exact package (hey, if you want to make ten CDs in wooden cases and with hand-written liner notes, you can do that as well). Cons: a lot of work. You need to run to a copyshop and keep track of various logistics, and need to burn those CDs. You need to handel everything regarding logistics (i.e. shipping it to the customer, or itunes or similar online stuff) yourself. And you either have to use them stupid labels (or actually pay more for printing it to disc at a copyshop). Price example: using local (German) prices, you get for CDR, labels, black jewel case and print job (2-sided booklet 4/4, 4 label and 0/4 insert) a cost of €1.24 ($1.69). This does NOT include burning the CDs and everything you have to do yourself (including assembling the products). b) the just-in-time logistics approach - as with kunaki. You upload your stuff to them. You can order them from there, and you got a page to sell it, and everything there (payment, shipping etc.) is handled by them. You set a price, and they charge that (plus shipping) from the customer, and give you your price-their price. Or you can order from them at their price. You only get one option, which for CDs is 2s 4/4 booklet, 0/4 insert, 4 label, black jewel case. Printing is laser printing, which in my eyes looks fine. Example:http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00ZGZZXJ Pros: Takes everything of your back, fine product quality, good price, you can order as many (or as few) items as required, and you have an online store! No setup fee. Cons: Only one package option. Price example: for orders up to 10 pieces, it's always $1. For more, it depends on how much "traffic" they just have - the price varies between $0.75 and $1.75. c) typical CD manufacturing place - traditional approach. "Traditional approach" here means glass master, and that only makes sense for quantities of at least 300 CDs. Added are printing costs (and again, due to setup costs, minimum quantity for offset print is 1000 most of the time), and with all that, the per-piece-price starts to scale down properly over 1000 pieces. Some do offer screen printing for smaller quantities, but then again, this is on a quallity level equal to or lower than the kunaki approach. However, depending on the place you're doing it, you often have a lot of package options. With regard to the order handling, see a) Pros: Real glass-master-based CD (no CDR), professional printing options available (for larger quantities), lots of package options, good prices for large quantities. Cons: large minimum number, high prices for small quantities. Price example: take the place that David recommended - with the same package options we've always considered and screen printing, it's $1.1/CD for a 1000 CD run, but $2.7 for the minimum 300 CD run. d) typical CD manufacturing place - low-volume approach. Similar to c), but using technologies fit for low volumes (CDR, laser printing). With regard to package options, see c), with regard to to handling, see a). Pros: allows for low volumes, lots of package options. Cons: high prices. Price example: too lazy now to do a proper research, but for our example product, you're landing at around $3.90/CD for a 25 CD run. Summary: for everything below, say, 800 CDs, kunaki is by far the cheapest and easiest thing to do. If you want some fancy special packaging, you'll either need to diy or get a big number of CDs. III. Comments on David's example. With the prices of wonderdrugrecords, there's $1300 left in the estimate for mastering and "everything else". As the plant does the prepress themselves and David specifically asked for a volunteer for the cover art, most of this (minus David's cut) can go into mastering - and I firmly believe that with a goal towards high-quality work and the fact that it's a compilation, this isn't necessarily too much - form my point of view. On the other hand, I believe saving on the mastering might just ruin the CD, but then again bring the price down by more than 50%...tough call. The personal perspective: Yes, I'd like to have CDs to give to people. And just for the sake of it, if someone (kunaki) offers a web shop service free of charge, I even use it (and hey, look for the link above and buy the goddamn CD! the cover art is stunning by my own standards! And I even like the music - http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00ZGZZXJ ;). However, I would never need as many as 1000 (or even 500) CDs of the same CD - it's just not the way my market position works. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 17:21:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 224513BE8B; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=8zrDK4t/dIODZeZMsRpKSm88zLXwjAgxAqb5YThfE8g=; b=ufzisXDReyCklILrMruViG3j2DRQ3D3VyIg42NF8DmCTNso2yCwUgTd4KUHsR5Ae9s uqWfBr6zDh1jv51ItvAk/7DAdoo56yXaRoKPjMZ9rnwIEl8HGza7DjVL3gkWEZYz5xYw l7Z74nFNyEf+kwEfaEQ8lS/OyizlMPKLyP+KM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=iQcZ5gUkAm+ez/GCa3xwkL44Dc6rCn88P/VUzr8AEgbhHd9RUV6P+AeGsF7nOUFT+h N85cXZFhDRu0JMCBwosuT6keKgIZtIj8pViDUiaxvtVmLHwvDrSSUy+55cMSSwLLjGYY BZVVjGXwGV8zGWdvplAY+QG+3RM+YXmlAlpx0= References: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <4BA177C0.7020501@cruzio.com> <4BA25BB4.2010707@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4BA25BB4.2010707@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: doc rossi Subject: Re: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs Rick's advice Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:20:35 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:21:11 +0000 (UTC) No that it matters that much, but I did a gig in Corsica last month and = completely sold out of CDs - I think I had about 20 on hand - with = about 10 other people asking how they could get one. I still sell more = CDs than downloads. On Mar 18, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Rick Walker schrieb: >> * For what it's worth, I have this gratuitous advice for the project: >>=20 >> In the past four years CD sales have almost ceased to exist for most = independent musicians. >> I use to sell 20 - 50 CDs a show back in 2001-2003 and I don't even = take the CDs to shows any more. >>=20 >> Most artists I know who still put out CDs have gone to the model of = having them manufactured (at a higher but not by much >> per CD basis) when they are sold (Krispen Hartung is a really good = resource for this method and has used it very successfully >> for his releases). >>=20 >> One can even have 'one off' DVDs made that have the audio files for = playing in CD players and computers, >> high and low quality MP3s for those who want iPod play, all the = graphics for booklets in a printable form (.pdf) >> * > On which I'd like to comment, as well as on David's business plan (in = no specific order): >=20 > I. There are more possible reasons to want to have a large number of = your CDs than to make profit selling them. Some people like to give them = away. Some are even able to generate profit out of that (using it as a = marketing tool; I'm too lazy to do the search myself, but there was a = lengthy post here some years ago by someone who gave away CDs simply to = generate a fan base). >=20 > II. If you decide on having physical CDs (for whatever reason), the = three methods available known to me for unsigned artists have their = different advantages and disadvantages: > a) the do-it-yourself approach: I don't like it at all because it = takes a lot of work (by you) which I'd rather spend on other things = (which could be either making music or just getting drunk, whichever you = prefer). > Pros: manufactured on a just-in-time basis. You have full control over = the exact package (hey, if you want to make ten CDs in wooden cases and = with hand-written liner notes, you can do that as well). > Cons: a lot of work. You need to run to a copyshop and keep track of = various logistics, and need to burn those CDs. You need to handel = everything regarding logistics (i.e. shipping it to the customer, or = itunes or similar online stuff) yourself. And you either have to use = them stupid labels (or actually pay more for printing it to disc at a = copyshop). > Price example: using local (German) prices, you get for CDR, labels, = black jewel case and print job (2-sided booklet 4/4, 4 label and 0/4 = insert) a cost of =801.24 ($1.69). This does NOT include burning the CDs = and everything you have to do yourself (including assembling the = products). >=20 > b) the just-in-time logistics approach - as with kunaki. > You upload your stuff to them. You can order them from there, and you = got a page to sell it, and everything there (payment, shipping etc.) is = handled by them. You set a price, and they charge that (plus shipping) = from the customer, and give you your price-their price. Or you can order = from them at their price. You only get one option, which for CDs is 2s = 4/4 booklet, 0/4 insert, 4 label, black jewel case. Printing is laser = printing, which in my eyes looks fine. = Example:http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=3DPX00ZGZZXJ > Pros: Takes everything of your back, fine product quality, good price, = you can order as many (or as few) items as required, and you have an = online store! No setup fee. > Cons: Only one package option. > Price example: for orders up to 10 pieces, it's always $1. For more, = it depends on how much "traffic" they just have - the price varies = between $0.75 and $1.75. >=20 > c) typical CD manufacturing place - traditional approach. > "Traditional approach" here means glass master, and that only makes = sense for quantities of at least 300 CDs. Added are printing costs (and = again, due to setup costs, minimum quantity for offset print is 1000 = most of the time), and with all that, the per-piece-price starts to = scale down properly over 1000 pieces. Some do offer screen printing for = smaller quantities, but then again, this is on a quallity level equal to = or lower than the kunaki approach. However, depending on the place = you're doing it, you often have a lot of package options. > With regard to the order handling, see a) > Pros: Real glass-master-based CD (no CDR), professional printing = options available (for larger quantities), lots of package options, good = prices for large quantities. > Cons: large minimum number, high prices for small quantities. > Price example: take the place that David recommended - with the same = package options we've always considered and screen printing, it's = $1.1/CD for a 1000 CD run, but $2.7 for the minimum 300 CD run. >=20 > d) typical CD manufacturing place - low-volume approach. > Similar to c), but using technologies fit for low volumes (CDR, laser = printing). With regard to package options, see c), with regard to to = handling, see a). > Pros: allows for low volumes, lots of package options. > Cons: high prices. > Price example: too lazy now to do a proper research, but for our = example product, you're landing at around $3.90/CD for a 25 CD run. >=20 > Summary: for everything below, say, 800 CDs, kunaki is by far the = cheapest and easiest thing to do. If you want some fancy special = packaging, you'll either need to diy or get a big number of CDs. >=20 > III. Comments on David's example. > With the prices of wonderdrugrecords, there's $1300 left in the = estimate for mastering and "everything else". As the plant does the = prepress themselves and David specifically asked for a volunteer for the = cover art, most of this (minus David's cut) can go into mastering - and = I firmly believe that with a goal towards high-quality work and the fact = that it's a compilation, this isn't necessarily too much - form my point = of view. On the other hand, I believe saving on the mastering might just = ruin the CD, but then again bring the price down by more than = 50%...tough call. >=20 >=20 > The personal perspective: > Yes, I'd like to have CDs to give to people. And just for the sake of = it, if someone (kunaki) offers a web shop service free of charge, I even = use it (and hey, look for the link above and buy the goddamn CD! the = cover art is stunning by my own standards! And I even like the music - = http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=3DPX00ZGZZXJ ;). > However, I would never need as many as 1000 (or even 500) CDs of the = same CD - it's just not the way my market position works. >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 18:52:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1853C3BE78; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iC0wrVzxqtMZzWX4e9gsnGAKL7AlzOg2Yxz5m7o6qbA=; b=uZti7+G4Du9u6heUynbIxjk3sP3vtjLkhVjfMg3VbaN4/rdSx97z5E6pru8RH+7KWJ GD4TRMrlGNGnEp+Z+iBV/+d3GLmTFo5q6vpC448DuFA9141cp2TMvX7o/JdBn2GTNkAV xEpwjuiwTWdDtF+oPCL7pUpnAd+O6FOToUjX0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JLa9vFfLsOVOyIibaL3Itntrg7vUwtQF/LIgEdppf3P7ITAasLEQ65S3nEc/ZupWGq apQYEqVz3/guuajEV6yHyBhmPrTiaO6Om6Fm0T4gAa4KAHpOgka1oKoE9f7M0jJtA2w+ oDPk7Rm5IO01dqRT6wPEc9C3dZgLJfWKhyZaM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003180437o761cf3c9v2d5cfcce78dd6b60@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171502x2e2148bfn8f4266515fac3780@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003180240p6ced94acj9494b74d9872dbd3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003180332p21a63277u61b94eae4c26802f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180437o761cf3c9v2d5cfcce78dd6b60@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:52:25 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b1003181152g7d21fbedseb01fd56d4c728d5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000feaee10004d6ed0048217bb13 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:52:26 +0000 (UTC) --000feaee10004d6ed0048217bb13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was trying to direct each track to it's own output. Track 1 is the only one that will respond to the record button on the Mobius GUI for some reason so thats the only one I could attempt. One of the pictures was me recording a loop in mObius on track 1 yet you could see in the background that there was nothing showing up on the Mobius channel strip in Mainstage. Maybe my Mobius or Mainstage setup could be corrupted somehow? I'll start from a new template in Mainstage and redownload Mobius...... and delete my Mobius xml and ui files to start fresh. I will start from scratch again and just choose plug in output 1 for all tracks in Mobius to simplify. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Todd Matthews > wrote: > > Here are the pics documenting my attempt to get audio out of my Mobius > loops > > in Mainstage. I'll try to do a video of my setup process this weekend. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/ > > Yes, my recent guess was correct. This picture shows that you have > chosen "output 2" as the output for Mobius plugin track 2. But if you > not running Mobius in multi output mode only output 1 works and should > be used for all tracks. But you should still be hearing loops laid > down on track 1 with these settings. Maybe you just didn't try > starting on that track? > > per > > --000feaee10004d6ed0048217bb13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was trying to direct each track to it's own output. Track 1 is the on= ly one that will respond to the record button on the Mobius GUI for some re= ason so thats the only one I could attempt. =A0One of the pictures was me r= ecording a loop in mObius on track 1 yet you could see in the background th= at there was nothing showing up on the Mobius channel strip in Mainstage. M= aybe my Mobius or Mainstage setup could be corrupted somehow? I'll star= t from a new template in Mainstage and redownload Mobius...... and delete m= y Mobius xml and ui files to start fresh.

I will start from scratch again and just choose plug in outp= ut 1 for all tracks in Mobius to simplify.=A0

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote= :
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1= 1:32 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthe= ws@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are the pics documenting my attempt to get audio out of my Mobius= loops
> in Mainstage. I'll try to do a video of my setup process this week= end.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/

Yes, my recent guess was correct. This picture shows that you have chosen "output 2" as the output for Mobius plugin track 2. But if= you
not running Mobius in multi output mode only output 1 works and should
be used for all tracks. But you should still be hearing loops laid
down on track 1 with these settings. Maybe you just didn't try
starting on that track?

per


--000feaee10004d6ed0048217bb13-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 19:06:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D4793BE87; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> <000e01cac652$594dcf90$0be96eb0$@com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: for your listening pleasure... Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:06:18 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.17.92 In-Reply-To: <000e01cac652$594dcf90$0be96eb0$@com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 31144-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC94E53934FEB0-A54-12836@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:06:32 +0000 (UTC) http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Tentacles.mp3 tony!.....luv it!!!!!.....mod fx? which?.....m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 19:21:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54D463BE82; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dzkU3Vz7PW4dYbQnjIZ0fvuWKrEumV76VqZFReWtxC0=; b=h9NcGY228Mj3U3sAvvxt/CxXuGBg2xzMTtZlY45Yni0dI5tzh/7MHZz1dPeT1mRe2z occEQ4aGAghro+N4kt9EoHJo9dKYjkCjdJE6LaJ8tNHCOaJAeI3mwRgyeavDXyCEPswK Dnjg2EyLH+lcJU/Au4sZ2xkrgw6+kEpdlVPZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ug/x15k6V6KTatgxvd8xADGnXqZAXythdYzSJkapTtdkQ7gRWDefVdmmHoEufa4guX S8k/OnTGzkf5c9WCUKfpuudj/2O/nGpwBaSd1k54KhL4VUOQQtWXXP+JHqy6QO4LKk54 IIRxmc7CWvOoPR+Ry08uZxU+sNyUio60IPI+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CC94E53934FEB0-A54-12836@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com> References: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> <000e01cac652$594dcf90$0be96eb0$@com> <8CC94E53934FEB0-A54-12836@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:21:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: for your listening pleasure... From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e18485682c0482182373 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:21:35 +0000 (UTC) --00504502e18485682c0482182373 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:06 PM, wrote: > > http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Tentacles.mp3 > > > tony!.....luv it!!!!!.....mod fx? which?.....m > > Thanks, Philtre. > Faze > Phlngr > Ampliton > Smashup, -- -==-=-=- Tony --00504502e18485682c0482182373 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:06 PM, <nemoguitt@aol.com&= gt; wrote:

http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Tentacles.mp3


tony!.....luv it!!!!!.....mod fx? which?.....m


Thanks,

Philtre. > Faze > Phlngr > = Ampliton > Smashup,


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--00504502e18485682c0482182373-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 19:47:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 529593BE82; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 365920786/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.211.92/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.211.92 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBABMgoktPTtNc/2dsb2JhbAAH1myEeQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,269,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="365920786" Message-ID: <4BA28366.9000205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:47:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs Rick's advice References: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <4BA177C0.7020501@cruzio.com> <4BA25BB4.2010707@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4BA25BB4.2010707@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > On which I'd like to comment, as well as on David's business plan (in no > specific order): well, kudos to David for having a plan, and implementing it. Nice summary tho' > And you either have to use > them stupid labels (or actually pay more for printing it to disc at a > copyshop). actually, if you're buying a printer it's easy enough to get one that does cds these days. > b) the just-in-time logistics approach - as with kunaki. > printing, which in my eyes looks fine. yes, actually printing a photo type graphic on a "real cd" often looks really bad, and usually won't come out as expected. (safer to use pantones) Plus one for Kunakai. They don't look *exactly* like a regular cd, but close enough I don't think anyone would complain. > of view. On the other hand, I believe saving on the mastering might just > ruin the CD, > ;-) ...I'd be very disappointed if my music got run through a compressor. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 20:35:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDCAA3BE82; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=CKNM1/8XtKUvN4X9GWL9OIeSU6b+D9/B+HiG4fnkTlo=; b=aGvLT+GFGK6myx6asmDG9vT9Bt92QEjf10zLvPmctaEdPMYR6SnfYeAdoCzlPLRMuI GpgPg5Wz1kFV89jepLRql7/ELp1jJlprWNFSTZEnXSWAhdoSGE9fuqE8rkdVL5yVmjl8 O9HfOmUBAn2ZueQdNCs4ADiNkl15XFTPD/h0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=eCeIfyo6w5NvHYcnCgJKTeSh4aWz66fwTOWyY6+7EGc0q4SD7GCEWSy7pD0iK1mUCn PR1on1SQukHzRa46nE9lGAPyMAWC8Yj4/BTGtdITj5AL2+vk/1JfVzHfCnVbJwTBDpC8 itZXL7TyDjJWhbDT05kKBZxboDJYPscNBcFck= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4BA28366.9000205@tiscali.co.uk> References: <186144.72624.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <4BA177C0.7020501@cruzio.com> <4BA25BB4.2010707@googlemail.com> <4BA28366.9000205@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:35:11 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9fe996caf156bb2e Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003181335s52b40a30vc2c123e73435d4bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs Rick's advice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cffe157af70482192cdb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:35:34 +0000 (UTC) --00504502cffe157af70482192cdb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to make a few comments to this bunch of LDCD contenders... I think its GREAT that you 'all are making another LD disk, its great to keep the tradition up.. sign me up for a copy. Just so you know, I never managed to sell ONE copy of my alloted bunch last time... although all the people I GAVE it to, reported that it was completely fantastic (and it was)= . .. and I know you are looking for a "service" to simplify this process, bu= t Im on the board of a record company/distro company called (totally coincidentaly Loop.no.. I assure you NOTHING to do with looping, and the triple o is intentional) ans we have taken to using http://www.mobineko.com/which I belive is in Korea. Get this REAL CD=B4S not cdrs with funny printing options, down to runs as small as 100... Maye not be what THIS CD needs, but maybe some of YOU wanna do it? OH and Rainer? I think it was ME you were refering to that gives away CD=B4s... I dont exactly give them away, rather I purposly leave them on th= e bus or the dentist waiting room... or a a bar table.. Ive been doing this for 4 years now and I wholeheartedly believe that my music has reach more people than ever before ha ha! Money you say...? nah.. I got a dayjob! Mark --00504502cffe157af70482192cdb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to make a few comments to this bunch of LDCD contenders...
I think= its GREAT that you 'all are making another LD disk, its great to keep = the tradition up.. sign me up for a copy. Just so you know, I never managed= to sell ONE copy of my alloted bunch last time... although all the people = I GAVE it to, reported that it was completely fantastic (and it was).

.. and I know you are looking for a "service"=A0 to simplify = this process, but Im on the board of a record company/distro company called= (totally coincidentaly Loop.no.. I assure you NOTHING to do with looping, = and the triple o is intentional) ans we have taken to using http://www.mobineko.com/= which I belive is in Korea.

Get this REAL CD=B4S not cdrs with funny printing options, down to runs= as small as 100...

Maye not be what THIS CD needs, but maybe some o= f YOU wanna do it?

OH and Rainer? I think it was ME you were referin= g to that gives away CD=B4s... I dont exactly give them away, rather I purp= osly leave them on the bus or the dentist waiting room... or a a bar table.= . Ive been doing this for 4 years now and I wholeheartedly believe that my = music has reach more people than ever before ha ha!

Money you say...? nah.. I got a dayjob!


Mark
--00504502cffe157af70482192cdb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 21:31:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 592163BE82; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XrR3S0lqh2dPk6h9v4sHTmbcoOzBvho0MGHbZERM+3E=; b=h0+EJ9o7vnY6c4LyWsnd8qKtipdmiqi++1RwUzY0v4VwKsYXmqk8hHNbQNzyWVJhye 3beBPpsuyJb57ekY4K7yiQ728duiTuYEkNfTtcQ8RqxsZLgADW0qW8qEtQCH3LiIxOYi /PN63Tp6udrg9EcTrjGxeuNGeUplMWVvCIvA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VpJSU5n6sDWDD9vfFlUKTKw/YsLm16SxrcMwK+Ew/WFvN6ojVev+3cCWj5RV51KJml koZoHSsCXaaFA/XCqy3WiGfiKk8Ns+w2i4qQ9iqOibe5BxOiAtttiTIc1xNnElC64/HX G5NalcrurPXYwVe9GYDaxPHGaemD7rozkBNaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BA0CDDA.7080700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:31:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New loop music, new techniques, download/stream From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636416dd1f4f51c048219f3d5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:31:32 +0000 (UTC) --001636416dd1f4f51c048219f3d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable master looper ! ... lots of fun with smmwh+edp here too. 2010/3/17 andy butler > here's some of the stuff I've been trying out lately. > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo1.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo2.mp3 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-resampleVari.mp3 > > or just stream the lot > > http://www.andybutler.com/andybutler-demos.m3u > > First 2 use the same technique, but for different results. > > Basically > the Gorduis Little Giant controls the EDPs to create a short 8 beat loop, > then to > replace only every 3rd beat with the audio being played. > > Once it gets going, I vary things a bit, but that's the basic trick. > I quite like the odd little "between the gaps" artefacts that eventually > build up. > > The Little Giant actually allows to create loops of commands, which could > be > synced to the loop, although in this case the LG is master, and not > actually synced. > > > For the 3rd track the idea was to record a simple loop onto the EH Stereo > Memory Man, > then to resample it onto the EDPs, using the varispeed on the SMM. > > andy butler > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --001636416dd1f4f51c048219f3d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable master looper ! ... lots of fun with smmwh+edp here too.

=
2010/3/17 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
here's some of the stuff I've been trying out lately.

http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo1.mp3
http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-LG-EDP-demo2.mp3
http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/ab-resampleVari.mp3

or just stream the lot

http://www.andybutler.com/andybutler-demos.m3u

First 2 use the same technique, but for different results.

Basically
the Gorduis Little Giant controls the EDPs to create a short 8 beat loop, t= hen to
replace only every 3rd beat with the audio being played.

Once it gets going, I vary things a bit, but that's the basic trick. I quite like the odd little "between the gaps" artefacts that eve= ntually build up.

The Little Giant actually allows to create loops of commands, which could b= e
synced to the loop, although in this case the LG is master, and not actuall= y synced.


For the 3rd track the idea was to record a simple loop onto the EH Stereo M= emory Man,
then to resample it onto the EDPs, using the varispeed on the SMM.

andy butler




--
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m= =E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!,= no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "=


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--001636416dd1f4f51c048219f3d5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 22:24:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867BE3BE86; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268951071; bh=4x60K1c92VQzaCg0u+qhSt0haWHPgLFVXK8Vy1nmBGE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2RkS15T5PWIBacBgmfl/8Y12nfCy6/kGbQ5ayGqybFhfgGg9Im9+EvEPu8e9Cg//GmoUnkkWNmoVDenGT0QlHg/5NjJdNyhpb5qoacOmB329tpVDudNJwt8tOKZ9Ll4hFTfv1GJeEI/PYj9m2O1FwAFNiLOlvzFVTZKHzju8UyM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TEHZXBykwfK8syTmxzpLtI3F3IHORCb6GLY1zb/np3L6OinZalFN1dgVcc1azb5F0y7SFfPhajNsVS/7ayQOe9QFoa56mC/Wn/2FTT4AkQ/WFVVYLDbqIlT65W85R7otqmHF4vxMCl6nL7XcmoZR8cEpjCNE7tpyCcu3y8H1cy8=; Message-ID: <11663.116.qm@web55206.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VmjuRfQVM1n.I3EwvlFP0zXEekQSSEnLFOScuTHrbL6hyB0 6MToar6rTswVc40HExw_ma4BQv9WcJCzUbpnPDZTRgT.Us5OPMgfAjLo8GBp UqqMqMDQHc9ez9klluf9fdiFCeWNnry2pOdpauM_uPtsy1LKQ91wHpl2s9Pq L39GpjzIY6kQdGS6BALWfWh_ge9xBSFYU2FrELqAR9ItEDVKsKLIcPMbGDol 6NvmUk.hs8SBnR3gw7x0DCFTJIXH47m35nreDl7KeOgwyo9H07POyWGjyfbG twgiRj8Ht3IZJhefX8gCCPfRyt5o7hZvtxXEfLiJLzgSPa8II2acLI8spvjR 0NIYtOlreDKV34ZUO5em99A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:24:30 -0700 (PDT) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: LD CD IV - 3 open slots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com, mech2@m3ch.net, tedkillian@charter.net, eterogenus@gmail.com, antonyhequet@yahoo.com, ejyuhas@embarqmail.com, loafcitious@gmail.com, cpr@musetrap.com, unstrungone@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1960525963-1268951070=:116" Resent-Message-ID: <6F-_3C.A.GxE.fgqoLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:24:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-1960525963-1268951070=:116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello -=0A=A0=0AAfter filling up almost immediately, there are=A03 open slo= ts available if you would like to participate in the next Loopers-Collectiv= e CD, which would be number=A0IV in the occasional series.=A0 So, if you we= re interested in participating but saw the slots were filled up, there are = openings again. :-)=0A=A0=0ATHE LD CD IV TEAM=0A1. Matt Stevens=0A2. Duke S= exton=0A3. Ted Killian=0A4. fabio=0A5. Antony Hequet=0A6. Edward Yuhas=0A7.= Andy G=0A8. CPR=0A9. David K=0A10. ?=0A11. ?=0A12. ?=0A=0AIf you would lik= e to participate, please read the details below and send an email to my YAH= OO account (and NOT Loopers-Delight): unstrungone@yahoo.com.=0A=A0=0A(Again= , please send any questions or email related to LD CD IV directly to my YAH= OO accounts, as I don't have time to read every Loopers'-Delight Digest I r= eceive. Thanks!)=0A=0AThe basic details will be no surprise: =0A- 12 partic= pants each submit 1 track no longer than=A06 minutes.=0A- Please consider t= he track submitted 100% finished as far as you are concerned.=0A- All costs= for preparation and production of 1000 shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-panel col= or artwork in Jewel Cases are to be divided among the 12 participants.=0A- = All 1000 CDs to be divided among the 12 participants (so 80 CD's each).=0A-= Delivery costs will be charged based on mailing costs (from Boston, MA) to= participants' addresses. =0A=A0=0AI propose using the following service fo= r CD production: http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/=A0=0AThey've done great = work for me for my own UNDO CDs.=0A=A0=0AWhat will this cost me?=0AFinal co= sts to be commnicated, but expect to pay something in the $200 dollar range= , not including postage delivery of your CDs.=0AI have used some top-flight= mastering in the past for 12 other CDs I've produced: http://www.peerlessm= astering.com/.=A0 I want to master the collection to ensure the collected m= usic plays well together. However, to keep costs down, I know another optio= n I can use that I believe will work great and not cost us anything. Stay t= uned.=0A=A0=0AWhat will I get?=0A1. Each participant wil receive 80=A0shrin= k-wrapped CDs with 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases.=0A2. Depending on = if everyone agrees, I can also arrange electronic distribution for this CD = through IODA: http://www.iodalliance.com/. However, that brings up the ques= tion of distribution of any sales income (which I'm happy to do for 24 mont= hs).=0A=A0=0AAre their any restrictions on the music?=0A1. Please do not su= bmit anything that contains ANY samples of other people's work.=0A2. Please= do not submit anything that contains profane language. :-)=0A=A0=0AHow do = I pay?=0A1. I'm not 100% sure yet.=A0 =0A2. I don't have a PayPal account, = but that might be the easiest way to do this.=0A=A0=0AWhat are the deadline= s and timelines?=0A1. I propose that all musical submitions must be receive= d by May 1, 2010.=A0 That's six weeks away. =0A2. I propose that all paymen= ts must be received by May 1, 2010.=0A3. Please allow 2 weeks for mastering= .=0A4. I need to confirm CD production turnaround time - 4-8 weeks, dependi= ng on when we send this in (oddly, this is a seasonal business).=0A=A0=0AWh= at do I do next?=0APlease send David an email with the following details:= =0A1. Your Full Name:=0A2. Your Musical Project's Name:=0A3. Your Phone Num= ber and Email for communication related to this project:=0A4. The full mail= ing address to which you would like to receive your CDs:=0A5. Would you lik= e David to arrange IODA electronic distribution (iTunes, Amazon, etc..) YES= or NO. (See "What Will I Get?", above):=A0=0A=A0=0AWhat does David need to= do next?=0A1. Calculate and communicate exact costs for CD duplication.=0A= 2. Confirm mastering costs. =0A3. Communicate to participants if there is u= niversal agreement for IODA electronic distribution.=0A=A0=0AWhat else?=0AT= ed Killian has volunteered his considerable graphic skills to provide profe= ssional CD artwork and layout.=A0 Examples of Ted's graphics can be seen he= re: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Duser.viewPicture= &friendID=3D195418382&albumId=3D1894877&page=3D3=0AIf you decide to back ou= t, please do so in writing to my YAHOO email address, and NOT the LD list -= I can only read every 3rd Digest, they come so quickly!=0A=A0=0AWhat is Da= vid's motivation to do this?=0A1. Its been a while since LD CD III, so it s= eems like a good idea.=0A2. I need more work to do in my life / I must be c= razy.=0A3. I generally like the process and we will get a high-quality prod= uct.=0A4. Good karma.=0A=A0=0APlease note: I am not making any money on thi= s process, and will also be paying an equal share.=A0=A0 =0A=A0=0AI hope th= is email helps answer questions you may have.=A0It really doesn't need to b= e complicated as long as we can all communicate cealtly, follow a process a= nd deadlines.=A0=A0=0A=A0=0APlease let me know if you have any other questi= ons!=0A=A0=0AKind regards,=0A=A0=0ADavid=0A=0A=0A --0-1960525963-1268951070=:116 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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After filling up almos= t immediately, there are&= nbsp;3 open slots available if you would like to participate in the next Lo= opers-Collective CD, which would be number IV in the o= ccasional series.  So, if yo= u were interested in participating but saw the slots were filled up, there = are openings again. :-)

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THE LD CD IV TEAM

=0A<= FONT face=3DConsolas>1. Matt Ste= vens

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2. Duke Sexto= n

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4. fabio

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5. Antony Hequet

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6. Edward = Yuhas

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8. CPR

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9. David K

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11. ?

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12. ?

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If you would like = to participate, please read the details below and send an email to my YAHOO= account (and NOT Loopers-Delight): unstrungone@yahoo.com= .
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=0A<= DIV>(Again, please send any questions or email related to LD CD= IV directly to my YAHOO accounts, as I don't have time to read every Loope= rs'-Delight Digest I receive. Thanks!)
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The basic details will be no surpris= e:

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- 12 particpants each submit 1 t= rack no longer than 6 minutes.

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- Please = consider the track submitted 100% finished as far as you are concerned.

=0A

- All costs for preparation and production of 1= 000 shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases are to be = divided among the 12 participants.

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- All 1000= CDs to be divided among the 12 participants (so 80 CD's each).

= =0A

- Delivery costs will be charged based on mailing costs= (from Boston, MA) to participants' addresses.

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http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/ =

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They've done great work for me for my own UN= DO CDs.

=0A

=  

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= What will this cost me?

=0A

Fina= l costs to be commnicated, but expect to pay something in the $200 dollar r= ange, not including postage delivery of your CDs.

=0A

I have used some top-flight mastering in the past for 12 other CDs I'v= e produced: http://www.peerlessmastering.com/.  I want to= master the collection to ensure the collected music plays well together. H= owever, to keep costs down, I know another option I can use that I believe = will work great and not cost us anything. Stay tuned.

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What will I get?

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<= FONT face=3DConsolas color=3D#000000>1. Each participant wil receive 80&nbs= p;shrink-wrapped CDs with 4-panel color artwork in Jewel Cases.

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2. Depending on if everyone agrees, I can also arrange = electronic distribution for this CD through IODA: http://www.iodalliance.com/= . However, that brings up the question of distribution of any sa= les income (which I'm happy to do for 24 months).

=0A

 

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Are their any restriction= s on the music?

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1. Please do not sub= mit anything that contains ANY samples of other people's work.

= =0A

2. Please do not submit anything that contains profane = language. :-)

=0A

 

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How do I pay?=0A

1. I'm not 100% sure yet. 

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2. I don't have a = PayPal account, but that might be the easiest way to do this.=

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What are the deadlines and timelines?

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1. I propose that all musical submitions must be received by <= SPAN class=3Dyshortcuts id=3Dlw_1268946726_7 style=3D"CURSOR: hand; BORDER-= BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed">May 1, 2010.  That's six weeks away= .

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2. I propose that all payments must be rec= eived by May 1, 2010.

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3. Please allow 2 weeks= for mastering.

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4. I need to confirm CD produ= ction turnaround time - 4-8 weeks, depending on when we send this in (oddly= , this is a seasonal business).

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 = ;

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What= do I do next?

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Please send David an = email with the following details:

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1. Your Ful= l Name:

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= 2. Your Musical Project's Name:

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3. Your Phone Number and Email for communication r= elated to this project:

=0A

4. The full mailing a= ddress to which you would like to receive your CDs:

=0A

5. Would you like David to arrange IODA electronic distribution = (iTunes, Amazon, etc..= ) YES or NO. (See "What Will I Get?", above): 

=0A

 

=0A

What does David nee= d to do next?

=0A

1. Calculate and commu= nicate exact costs for CD duplication.=

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2. Confirm mastering costs.

=0A3. Communicate to participants if there is universal agreeme= nt for IODA electronic distribution.

=0A

&= nbsp;

=0A

What else?

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Ted Killian has volunteered his considerable graphic skills to = provide professional CD artwork and layout.  Examples of Ted's graphic= s can be seen here: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Duser.v= iewPicture&friendID=3D195418382&albumId=3D1894877&page=3D3<= /FONT>

=0A

If you deci= de to back out, please do so in writing to my= YAHOO email address, and NOT the LD list - I c= an only read every 3rd Digest, they come so quickly!

=0A

 

=0A

What is David's mot= ivation to do this?

=0A

1. Its been a wh= ile since LD CD III, so it seems like a good idea.

=0A

2. I need more work to do in my life / I must be crazy.

=0A=

3. I generally like the process and we will get a high-qua= lity product.

=0A

4. Good karma.

=0A

 

=0A

Please note: I am not ma= king any money on this process, and will also be paying an equal share.&nbs= p; 

=0A

I hope this email helps answer questions you may have. It really doe= sn't need to be complicated as long as we can all communicate cealtly, foll= ow a process and deadlines.  

=0A

 

=0A

Please let me know if you have any other qu= estions!

=0A

 

=0A

Kind regards,

=0A

 

=0A

David

=0A

 

=0A
 
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------=_NextPart_000_048A_01CAC6BB.023E1ED0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 22:58:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5B1C3BE87; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268953107; bh=UPro9QWHEhFSaXftYpaJFyVxps1Q6HLzPuJYWn1w+EU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Xa8pOE6pBtr2xZhQ5rAumMjBp2bY7lt6ikrLJP3S3Ok8bGvXMfUXHLShlmn1e/1H3/rpNxW5PkFbzlMnqguPwR3OxjVPcdc8JKIF8/SUFhpSGCCaXh+t2vGrEY/+BOyhlGf1ru8jq/Ml2uNhKmDKqC3GvbexmHm3wH++6pKuI5I= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eExHAfNr9bKmPYlPbPVgqlUXBd4iI8Hbh+OjsBojmKlM4kzbOYafpzA9P6mvSSX6t163hY0m4uZvZoNF+8QrvC2Zbbe0/EBgKkV21jvIoM0xykNW9aN3XB+1MPg3ARBWyoAvYXRSKiOHUwTd+nBqM+6Yiwmok7LOwmh6kLTVOVE=; Message-ID: <77252.20781.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dDfPt5UVM1l3pAHdx8IfzTvQkmDB_h9KVztLuPQmEGyT9Z_ G.rYkLelT4nHPNkZ6M5iHgmTGiOTsg5oc2tDCmRr4ZH_X7pjN_QF8NnmKYsz dVKHQxV3DJpu0Xh9tWObsJO_yIbSQZ0ng8KpyEaymCJcCmMmxF3SKD312rAm OBL.kKdb7dwBLqRa5cLWL84y1fraBY0LRYdiH7MuRHhAqcCXP6vjHeGhuijV zKTDZkoU7QZRJ2enNs9NGH2gpCrOzsYuFisOApyYr6Sxzwv0AKcSUIbNY8xf YFzkofkWBq5KieoNiImG3up725I.Ywm_4L7xJoCD8bnUTzGgpKzwqaTLOHgo PC4t5LtZEbfvLL_4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:58:26 -0700 (PDT) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: LD CD IV - pricing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com, mech2@m3ch.net, tedkillian@charter.net, eterogenus@gmail.com, antonyhequet@yahoo.com, ejyuhas@embarqmail.com, loafcitious@gmail.com, cpr@musetrap.com, David K MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1180878526-1268953106=:20781" Resent-Message-ID: <1y7y0B.A.ZYF.TAroLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:58:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-1180878526-1268953106=:20781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer, you have written an excellent "quick-guide" to CD production option= s.=C2=A0 Thank you!=C2=A0 =0A=0AOn the topic of pricing: I have mentioned i= n each email regarding LD CD IV that I need to pin down exact pricing.=C2= =A0 I've provided links to the vendors I am thinking of using for everyone = to see. Wonderdrug's website=C2=A0(http://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/sub5.ht= m)=C2=A0 displays a price of $1189 for 4-panel 4/4 color printing.=C2=A0 Ho= wever, there may be specials I can get.=C2=A0 But there may be other incide= ntal production costs that are not advertised.=C2=A0I view professional mas= tering to be a critical step to sonically bring together 12 completely diff= erent tracks that have been recorded in any variety of manners.=C2=A0 The v= endor I hope to use is Peerless Mastering: http://www.peerlessmastering.com= /.=0A=0AIf I can get pricing down to $100 / participant for 80 4-panel colo= ur jewel-cased shrink-wrapped CD's each,=C2=A0($1.25/CD) I will do so.=C2= =A0 I'm using $200 as a guide, to catch everything, and to avoid unpleasant= surprizes.=C2=A0 As you can see, it=C2=A0could very well be less.=C2=A0 I = doubt it could be more.=C2=A0 And I will be paying an equal share along wit= h everyone else.=C2=A0 =0A=0AI hope this is helpful information for everyon= e participating, or thinking of participating, regarding the project I've o= utlined.=0A=0AKind regards,=0A=0ADavid=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFw: Re: Forced to with= draw with apologies and an important note about the economics of selling CD= /DVDs Rick's advice=0ARe: Forced to withdraw with apologies and an importan= t note about the economics of selling CD/DVDs Rick's advice=0AThursday, Mar= ch 18, 2010 12:58:28 PM=0AFrom: =0A"Rainer Straschill" =0ATo: =0A"" =0ARick Walker schr= ieb:=0A> * For what it's worth, I have this gratuitous advice for the proje= ct:=0A> =0A> In the past four years CD sales have almost ceased to exist fo= r most independent musicians.=0A> I use to sell 20 - 50 CDs a show back in = 2001-2003 and I don't even take the CDs to shows any more.=0A> =0A> Most ar= tists I know who still put out CDs have gone to the model of having them ma= nufactured (at a higher but not by much=0A> per CD basis) when they are sol= d (Krispen Hartung is a really good resource for this method and has used i= t very successfully=0A> for his releases).=0A> =0A> One can even have 'one = off' DVDs made that have the audio files for playing in CD players and comp= uters,=0A> high and low quality MP3s for those who want iPod play, all the = graphics for booklets in a printable form (.pdf)=0A> *=0AOn which I'd like = to comment, as well as on David's business plan (in no specific order):=0A= =0AI. There are more possible reasons to want to have a large number of you= r CDs than to make profit selling them. Some people like to give them away.= Some are even able to generate profit out of that (using it as a marketing= tool; I'm too lazy to do the search myself, but there was a lengthy post h= ere some years ago by someone who gave away CDs simply to generate a fan ba= se).=0A=0AII. If you decide on having physical CDs (for whatever reason), t= he three methods available known to me for unsigned artists have their diff= erent advantages and disadvantages:=0Aa) the do-it-yourself approach: I don= 't like it at all because it takes a lot of work (by you) which I'd rather = spend on other things (which could be either making music or just getting d= runk, whichever you prefer).=0APros: manufactured on a just-in-time basis. = You have full control over the exact package (hey, if you want to make ten = CDs in wooden cases and with hand-written liner notes, you can do that as w= ell).=0ACons: a lot of work. You need to run to a copyshop and keep track o= f various logistics, and need to burn those CDs. You need to handel everyth= ing regarding logistics (i.e. shipping it to the customer, or itunes or sim= ilar online stuff) yourself. And you either have to use them stupid labels = (or actually pay more for printing it to disc at a copyshop).=0APrice examp= le: using local (German) prices, you get for CDR, labels, black jewel case = and print job (2-sided booklet 4/4, 4 label and 0/4 insert) a cost of =E2= =82=AC1.24 ($1.69). This does NOT include burning the CDs and everything yo= u have to do yourself (including assembling the products).=0A=0Ab) the just= -in-time logistics approach - as with kunaki.=0AYou upload your stuff to th= em. You can order them from there, and you got a page to sell it, and every= thing there (payment, shipping etc.) is handled by them. You set a price, a= nd they charge that (plus shipping) from the customer, and give you your pr= ice-their price. Or you can order from them at their price. You only get on= e option, which for CDs is 2s 4/4 booklet, 0/4 insert, 4 label, black jewel= case. Printing is laser printing, which in my eyes looks fine. Example:htt= p://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=3DPX00ZGZZXJ=0APros: Takes everything of your = back, fine product quality, good price, you can order as many (or as few) i= tems as required, and you have an online store! No setup fee.=0ACons: Only = one package option.=0APrice example: for orders up to 10 pieces, it's alway= s $1. For more, it depends on how much "traffic" they just have - the price= varies between $0.75 and $1.75.=0A=0Ac) typical CD manufacturing place - t= raditional approach.=0A"Traditional approach" here means glass master, and = that only makes sense for quantities of at least 300 CDs. Added are printin= g costs (and again, due to setup costs, minimum quantity for offset print i= s 1000 most of the time), and with all that, the per-piece-price starts to = scale down properly over 1000 pieces. Some do offer screen printing for sma= ller quantities, but then again, this is on a quallity level equal to or lo= wer than the kunaki approach. However, depending on the place you're doing = it, you often have a lot of package options.=0AWith regard to the order han= dling, see a)=0APros: Real glass-master-based CD (no CDR), professional pri= nting options available (for larger quantities), lots of package options, g= ood prices for large quantities.=0ACons: large minimum number, high prices = for small quantities.=0APrice example: take the place that David recommende= d - with the same package options we've always considered and screen printi= ng, it's $1.1/CD for a 1000 CD run, but $2.7 for the minimum 300 CD run.=0A= =0Ad) typical CD manufacturing place - low-volume approach.=0ASimilar to c)= , but using technologies fit for low volumes (CDR, laser printing). With re= gard to package options, see c), with regard to to handling, see a).=0APros= : allows for low volumes, lots of package options.=0ACons: high prices.=0AP= rice example: too lazy now to do a proper research, but for our example pro= duct, you're landing at around $3.90/CD for a 25 CD run.=0A=0ASummary: for = everything below, say, 800 CDs, kunaki is by far the cheapest and easiest t= hing to do. If you want some fancy special packaging, you'll either need to= diy or get a big number of CDs.=0A=0AIII. Comments on David's example.=0AW= ith the prices of wonderdrugrecords, there's $1300 left in the estimate for= mastering and "everything else". As the plant does the prepress themselves= and David specifically asked for a volunteer for the cover art, most of th= is (minus David's cut) can go into mastering - and I firmly believe that wi= th a goal towards high-quality work and the fact that it's a compilation, t= his isn't necessarily too much - form my point of view. On the other hand, = I believe saving on the mastering might just ruin the CD, but then again br= ing the price down by more than 50%...tough call.=0A=0A=0AThe personal pers= pective:=0AYes, I'd like to have CDs to give to people. And just for the sa= ke of it, if someone (kunaki) offers a web shop service free of charge, I e= ven use it (and hey, look for the link above and buy the goddamn CD! the co= ver art is stunning by my own standards! And I even like the music - http:/= /kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=3DPX00ZGZZXJ ;).=0AHowever, I would never need as= many as 1000 (or even 500) CDs of the same CD - it's just not the way my m= arket position works.=0A=0ARainer=0A=0A-- http://moinlabs.de=0AFollow me on= twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1180878526-1268953106=:20781 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rainer, you have written an excellent "quick-guide= " to CD production options.  Thank you! 
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On the topic of pricing: I have mentioned in each email regarding= LD CD IV that I need to pin down exact pricing.  I've provided= links to the vendors I am thinking of using for everyone to see. Wonderdru= g's website (htt= p://www.wonderdrugrecords.com/sub5.htm)  displays a price of $1189= for 4-panel 4/4 color printing.  However, there may be specials I can= get.  But there may be other incidental production costs that are not= advertised. I view professional mastering to be a critical step to so= nically bring together 12 completely different tracks that have been record= ed in any variety of manners.  The vendor I hope to use is Peerless Ma= stering: http://www.peerlessm= astering.com/.
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If I can get pr= icing down to $100 / participant for 80 4-panel colour jewel-cased shrink-w= rapped CD's each, ($1.25/CD) I will do so.  I'm using $2= 00 as a guide, to catch everything, and to avoid unpleasant surprizes. = ; As you can see, it could very well be less.  I doubt it could b= e more.  And I will be paying an equal share along with everyone else.=  
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Rick Walker schrieb:
> * For what it's worth, I have this gratuitous= advice for the project:
>
> In the past four years CD sales h= ave almost ceased to exist for most independent musicians.
> I use to= sell 20 - 50 CDs a show back in 2001-2003 and I don't even take the CDs to= shows any more.
>
> Most artists I know who still put out CDs= have gone to the model of having them manufactured (at a higher but not by= much
> per CD basis) when they are sold (Krispen Hartung is a really= good resource for this method and has used it very successfully
> fo= r his releases).
>
> One can even have 'one off' DVDs made tha= t have the audio files for playing in CD players and computers,
> hig= h and low quality MP3s for those who want iPod play, all the graphics for b= ooklets in a printable form (.pdf)
> *
On which I'd like to commen= t, as well as on David's business plan (in no specific order):

I. There are more possible reasons to want to have= a large number of your CDs than to make profit selling them. Some people l= ike to give them away. Some are even able to generate profit out of that (u= sing it as a marketing tool; I'm too lazy to do the search myself, but ther= e was a lengthy post here some years ago by someone who gave away CDs simpl= y to generate a fan base).

II. If you decide on having physical CDs = (for whatever reason), the three methods available known to me for unsigned= artists have their different advantages and disadvantages:
a) the do-it= -yourself approach: I don't like it at all because it takes a lot of work (= by you) which I'd rather spend on other things (which could be either makin= g music or just getting drunk, whichever you prefer).
Pros: manufactured= on a just-in-time basis. You have full control over the exact package (hey= , if you want to make ten CDs in wooden cases and with hand-written liner notes, you can do that as well).
Cons: a lot of work. You need to= run to a copyshop and keep track of various logistics, and need to burn th= ose CDs. You need to handel everything regarding logistics (i.e. shipping i= t to the customer, or itunes or similar online stuff) yourself. And you eit= her have to use them stupid labels (or actually pay more for printing it to= disc at a copyshop).
Price example: using local (German) prices, you ge= t for CDR, labels, black jewel case and print job (2-sided booklet 4/4, 4 l= abel and 0/4 insert) a cost of =E2=82=AC1.24 ($1.69). This does NOT include= burning the CDs and everything you have to do yourself (including assembli= ng the products).

b) the just-in-time logistics approach - as with k= unaki.
You upload your stuff to them. You can order them from there, and= you got a page to sell it, and everything there (payment, shipping etc.) i= s handled by them. You set a price, and they charge that (plus shipping) from the customer, and give you your price-their price. Or you can order f= rom them at their price. You only get one option, which for CDs is 2s 4/4 b= ooklet, 0/4 insert, 4 label, black jewel case. Printing is laser printing, = which in my eyes looks fine. Example:http://kunaki.com/= sales.asp?PID=3DPX00ZGZZXJ
Pros: Takes everything of your bac= k, fine product quality, good price, you can order as many (or as few) item= s as required, and you have an online store! No setup fee.
Cons: Only on= e package option.
Price example: for orders up to 10 pieces, it's always= $1. For more, it depends on how much "traffic" they just have - the price = varies between $0.75 and $1.75.

c) typical CD manufacturing place - = traditional approach.
"Traditional approach" here means glass master, an= d that only makes sense for quantities of at least 300 CDs. Added are print= ing costs (and again, due to setup costs, minimum quantity for offset print is= 1000 most of the time), and with all that, the per-piece-price starts to s= cale down properly over 1000 pieces. Some do offer screen printing for smal= ler quantities, but then again, this is on a quallity level equal to or low= er than the kunaki approach. However, depending on the place you're doing i= t, you often have a lot of package options.
With regard to the order han= dling, see a)
Pros: Real glass-master-based CD (no CDR), professional pr= inting options available (for larger quantities), lots of package options, = good prices for large quantities.
Cons: large minimum number, high price= s for small quantities.
Price example: take the place that David recomme= nded - with the same package options we've always considered and screen pri= nting, it's $1.1/CD for a 1000 CD run, but $2.7 for the minimum 300 CD run.=

d) typical CD manufacturing place - low-volume approach.
Similar to c), but using technologies fit for low volumes (CD= R, laser printing). With regard to package options, see c), with regard to = to handling, see a).
Pros: allows for low volumes, lots of package optio= ns.
Cons: high prices.
Price example: too lazy now to do a proper res= earch, but for our example product, you're landing at around $3.90/CD for a= 25 CD run.

Summary: for everything below, say, 800 CDs, kunaki is b= y far the cheapest and easiest thing to do. If you want some fancy special = packaging, you'll either need to diy or get a big number of CDs.

III= . Comments on David's example.
With the prices of wonderdrugrecords, the= re's $1300 left in the estimate for mastering and "everything else". As the= plant does the prepress themselves and David specifically asked for a volu= nteer for the cover art, most of this (minus David's cut) can go into maste= ring - and I firmly believe that with a goal towards high-quality work and the fact that it's a compilation, this isn't necessarily too much= - form my point of view. On the other hand, I believe saving on the master= ing might just ruin the CD, but then again bring the price down by more tha= n 50%...tough call.


The personal perspective:
Yes, I'd like t= o have CDs to give to people. And just for the sake of it, if someone (kuna= ki) offers a web shop service free of charge, I even use it (and hey, look = for the link above and buy the goddamn CD! the cover art is stunning by my = own standards! And I even like the music - http://kunak= i.com/sales.asp?PID=3DPX00ZGZZXJ ;).
However, I would never n= eed as many as 1000 (or even 500) CDs of the same CD - it's just not the wa= y my market position works.

Rainer

-- http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: = http://twitter.com/moinlabs
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 18 23:28:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EDB03BE85; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FQQ6G7cDA4Wr2VqbgZDan5sgczjfCl3wMmvifLqJPjc=; b=l0NP51FuXsS5aNqu4YthhXK94IGkSJvk21E3bR5Pbf1o9yzJJX60JuIhC58dGRsDc5 7LT1hRDb1DXKocaCJcdBmwyWMOam2bKdqqsD5/y2kBJxT1a9kDp8xf7gTGzbLAAmUeg3 +Y/bjFEfX8rN+mVJIJYV+yQaRX1lBqxlB3EaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=niywsGY8F5JvZNYUQLG7jAmSHQOmd7T5V8b6+txt4KZBtU2mF9ATpS2wiHy3D0/Lz6 Rnuoj0QYH6iO/yulRkhGBLcHFGSa5L1Y2/rJXHXd+2m+5+yNwqsgJgMwzURojFF2X7XY cDMNEV6zURm5VcGaLwHQYgLTdlJQz3wCQn/BA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b1003181152g7d21fbedseb01fd56d4c728d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b1003171234qf4c1a87oe55fa44cf4026ed2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171244i337005e7l95a86e692a93ea4f@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003171325r53cd9c8du13c5120032666dc2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003171502x2e2148bfn8f4266515fac3780@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003180240p6ced94acj9494b74d9872dbd3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003180332p21a63277u61b94eae4c26802f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003180437o761cf3c9v2d5cfcce78dd6b60@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b1003181152g7d21fbedseb01fd56d4c728d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:28:02 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b1003181628m4cb6b093k172b1cfd49452458@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage 2 with Mobius Help Needed From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f896f809362404821b95de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:28:03 +0000 (UTC) --001485f896f809362404821b95de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That worked!!!! What a glorious day. Instead of using Mobius as a software instrument with Multi Output(8x sterep), I choose regular ol' plain stereo. In the Mobius settings I made sure that all the plug in, ins and outs were set to 1. Now it works great. Thanks again Per for all your help. I owe you big time. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I was trying to direct each track to it's own output. Track 1 is the only > one that will respond to the record button on the Mobius GUI for some reason > so thats the only one I could attempt. One of the pictures was me recording > a loop in mObius on track 1 yet you could see in the background that there > was nothing showing up on the Mobius channel strip in Mainstage. Maybe my > Mobius or Mainstage setup could be corrupted somehow? I'll start from a new > template in Mainstage and redownload Mobius...... and delete my Mobius xml > and ui files to start fresh. > > I will start from scratch again and just choose plug in output 1 for all > tracks in Mobius to simplify. > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Todd Matthews >> wrote: >> > Here are the pics documenting my attempt to get audio out of my Mobius >> loops >> > in Mainstage. I'll try to do a video of my setup process this weekend. >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/ >> >> Yes, my recent guess was correct. This picture shows that you have >> chosen "output 2" as the output for Mobius plugin track 2. But if you >> not running Mobius in multi output mode only output 1 works and should >> be used for all tracks. But you should still be hearing loops laid >> down on track 1 with these settings. Maybe you just didn't try >> starting on that track? >> >> per >> >> > --001485f896f809362404821b95de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That worked!!!! What a glorious day. Instead of using Mobius as a software = instrument with Multi Output(8x sterep), I choose regular ol' plain ste= reo. In the Mobius settings I made sure that all the plug in, ins and outs = were set to 1. Now it works great. Thanks again Per for all your help. I ow= e you big time.=A0


On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Todd Ma= tthews <gtmatt= hews@gmail.com> wrote:
I was trying to direct each track to it's own output. Track 1 is the on= ly one that will respond to the record button on the Mobius GUI for some re= ason so thats the only one I could attempt. =A0One of the pictures was me r= ecording a loop in mObius on track 1 yet you could see in the background th= at there was nothing showing up on the Mobius channel strip in Mainstage. M= aybe my Mobius or Mainstage setup could be corrupted somehow? I'll star= t from a new template in Mainstage and redownload Mobius...... and delete m= y Mobius xml and ui files to start fresh.

I will start from scratch again and just choose plug in outp= ut 1 for all tracks in Mobius to simplify.=A0


On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Per= Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Todd = Matthews <gtma= tthews@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are the pics documenting my attempt to get audio out of my Mobius= loops
> in Mainstage. I'll try to do a video of my setup process this week= end.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtodd876/4443042374/

Yes, my recent guess was correct. This picture shows that you have chosen "output 2" as the output for Mobius plugin track 2. But if= you
not running Mobius in multi output mode only output 1 works and should
be used for all tracks. But you should still be hearing loops laid
down on track 1 with these settings. Maybe you just didn't try
starting on that track?

per



--001485f896f809362404821b95de-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 00:01:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3056B3BE84; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KmyMrC7OrBeBbMPjR3/9EDb7dRgW3iQOXIaWUuIAN7c=; b=J306+nMDq0HXR0dtzVWgrWV6Xr4KQ7UO9iPtIQAMlMC8TplqE24KU7CzfUSH1r4QEY bqTYAT5c5MSC7+EHY2HN+oCU10lK4OkyvGbN3lXFuwVPKnxOllS7T47rVXy31Apl8+0R 8ben+IHzXG9dzOsIeRBySl73pnN2F8UCb0pdw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S4zTm4EUI3U/IB7n9J2uHDpy5c0g9Bf0jKkqfPwNbeRXr9jORYKc9pbkMv0xH4yI+P ayuxzYLUPfe5w4W1kHNpebm5PEGw7f4/ABloa3dHhksQIpKTaUzvNlkIqYAKYHxVZjoF rXJ7myWyHQiqKlHd0Avion+JzGe6EvaYgCMrI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8623E142-6ADE-4FBE-BB24-06CE7831C7B1@ubergadget.com> <000e01cac652$594dcf90$0be96eb0$@com> <8CC94E53934FEB0-A54-12836@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:01:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: for your listening pleasure... From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99f6a3c958d04821c0b6d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:01:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99f6a3c958d04821c0b6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i like it! thanks for sharing, tony. 2010/3/18 Tony K > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:06 PM, wrote: > >> >> http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Tentacles.mp3 >> >> >> tony!.....luv it!!!!!.....mod fx? which?.....m >> >> > Thanks, > > Philtre. > Faze > Phlngr > Ampliton > Smashup, > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d99f6a3c958d04821c0b6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i like it!
thanks for sharing, tony.

2010/3/18 Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>


On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 a= t 2:06 PM, <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
tony!.....luv it!!!!!.....mod fx? which?.....m


Thanks,

Philtre. > Faze > Phlngr= > Ampliton > Smashup,


--
-=3D=3D-=3D-= =3D-
Tony



--
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m= =E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!,= no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "=


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d99f6a3c958d04821c0b6d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 00:04:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A4333BE85; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [174.19.99.193] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: FS: Boss VF1 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:04:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01CAC6C5.73636070" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2010 00:04:29.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[BEA1FFB0:01CAC6F7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:04:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01CAC6C5.73636070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Someone on this list was interested in my Boss VF1. Who was that?=20 Kris www.krispenhartung.com ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01CAC6C5.73636070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Someone on this list was interested in = my Boss=20 VF1.  Who was that?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0060_01CAC6C5.73636070-- From glo@osb.att.ne.jp Fri Mar 19 01:31:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 13825 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:31:49 UTC Received: from cmta116.att.ne.jp (mta116.att.ne.jp [143.90.14.86]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C01B3BE77 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vmta114.att.ne.jp by cmta114.att.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20100318214115800.CDJL.29668.cmta114.att.ne.jp@mta114.att.ne.jp> for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:41:15 +0900 Received: from emta114.att.ne.jp by vmta114.att.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20100318214110122.STET.27769.vmta114.att.ne.jp@mta114.att.ne.jp>; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:41:10 +0900 Received: from wem103 ([143.90.14.203] [143.90.14.203]) by emta114.att.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20100318214109733.MJLX.18700.emta114.att.ne.jp@mta114.att.ne.jp>; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:41:09 +0900 Message-ID: <29464652.552111268948469809.JavaMail.root@wem103> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 6:41:09 +0900 From: Glory Hull Reply-To: glory_hull@live.fr Subject: Dearest One, MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dearest One, It's my pleasure to contact you for a business venture, I am Miss Glory Hull the only Daugther of Mr & Mrs Hull.From Republic of Cote D'ivoire in West Africa. I intend to establish in your country, though I have not met with you before but I believe one has to risk confiding in someone to succeed sometimes in life. There is this huge amount of $B!x(B3.5Million USA dollars ($3.500,000.00) which my late father deposited in a private finance company here in Abidjan before he was assasinated by unknown person or persons. Now I have decided to invest these money in your country or anywhere safe enough outside Africa for security and political crisis free. I want you to help me to transfer this fund to your country for investment purposes on the followings bellow. Telecommunication) Automobile manufacturing) Five star hotel) If you can be of any assistance to this i will like you to tell me what you will take from me out of the total fund, as your charge to assist me get this fund out of this chaos nation. I will be expecting your urgent response soonest. Thanks Miss Glory Hull From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 02:06:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6963E3BE84; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <947A7AC8-D5BC-4749-9629-B66C14069C30@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: RE:New loop music, new techniques, download/stream Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:06:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andy, I enjoyed your clips which I finally got a chance to listen to.,the varispeed thing that swirls on #3, and how you evolved #1, good stuff. An AB release someday in the not too distant future? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 12:21:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B74513BE81; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: catch.all@mancingdolecules.com X-Originating-IP: [88.188.160.120] In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003171521j6d19435aif465feff754ba1e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003171521j6d19435aif465feff754ba1e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:21:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 777bd507651d7439 Message-ID: <225f88f01003190521h22fd94a8k20aa485affeda66c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: iphone loopers in the app store From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_=2D_Mancing_Dolecules?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646bb6c22f73604822662d0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:21:17 +0000 (UTC) --00163646bb6c22f73604822662d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow thanks for the info Jesse ! I was wondering why I was getting a bump in my US sales ^^. Glad that our two apps are here side by side, that adds an even better tast= e to this surprise :). Cheers ! Rapha=EBl --00163646bb6c22f73604822662d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow thanks for the info Jesse !

I was wondering why I was getting a = bump in my US sales ^^.

Glad that our two apps are here side by side= , that adds an even better taste to this surprise :).

Cheers !

Rapha=EBl
--00163646bb6c22f73604822662d0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 12:37:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E9003BE7E; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=g8X8hVVmZm3oe7vf5iax8qZ5YPO9YaLU3SoSckaY7+4=; b=aKvltFtDI/s7yrFwFnLBhY2eERepLHq0XgH9Tw3kJxexxro2VVgTIFzmqL5hKtRcMs 2WHk/RnUsV0JPUYLgIqrJfQzyylGDriNll1zaI5G3L6POZmHnGNMoPqtOIj2j00S7bjm ENkuWZbpPOTA+tE3cTGmRAZTgj9RfBe5/Kj3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BR2NlYLWBld1jWr2ngaq/pa+qi6XndoIxrHMXZf/2EN5Hh4w0xNDJFSipr8S5LXRUS j+72oB9NDQA+JFcB5DezC7V/wP3JXyhusDkEM4HOYozuDejqyI07bmo9JKKLMjQvC637 jLCgCfZ7W/72clV08EPNpnCgEpm95QA3qTGdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:37:05 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a91003190537x11f227d8gb3ac5add5204f3f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Replace and substitute in Mobius From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32a90d9e2900482269a22 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:37:06 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32a90d9e2900482269a22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, After of hearing everyone sing it's praises, I finally got around to trying Mobius. So far so good; I think I might be selling a whole lot of hardware soon. I do have one issue with replace: the audio playback drops out when I send the command. I really like the result though. I tried using substitute with zero secondary feedback. The playback continues when I send the command, but the resulting loop is not as clean as with replace. I can still hear the original sound behind the newly added sound. I'm wondering if this is the normal fonctionality or if I'm somehow screwing things up. Ideally, I wouldn't want the playback to drop out when I send the replace/substitute command and the new sound should completely replace the old one for that slice. Any thoughts? thanks, Sylvain --000e0cd32a90d9e2900482269a22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
After of hearing everyone sing it's praises, I finally got around = to trying Mobius.=A0 So far so good; I think I might be selling a whole lot= of hardware soon.
=A0
I do have one issue with replace:=A0 the audio playback drops out when= I send the command.=A0 I really like the result though.=A0 I tried using s= ubstitute with zero secondary feedback.=A0 The playback continues when I se= nd the command, but the resulting loop is not as clean as with replace.=A0 = I can still hear the original sound behind the newly added sound.
=A0
I'm wondering=A0if this is the normal fonctionality or if I'm = somehow screwing things up.=A0 Ideally, I wouldn't want the playback to= drop out when I send the replace/substitute command and the new sound shou= ld completely replace the old one for that slice.
=A0
Any thoughts?
=A0
thanks,
Sylvain
=A0
--000e0cd32a90d9e2900482269a22-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 13:00:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2F493BE82; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 362407518/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.152.235/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.152.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAC8So0tPRpjr/2dsb2JhbAAH1yiEegQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,274,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="362407518" Message-ID: <4BA37555.8070509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:00:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Replace and substitute in Mobius References: <2871c3a91003190537x11f227d8gb3ac5add5204f3f4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2871c3a91003190537x11f227d8gb3ac5add5204f3f4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:00:02 +0000 (UTC) try putting "Secondary Feedback" to zero Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hi, > After of hearing everyone sing it's praises, I finally got around to > trying Mobius. So far so good; I think I might be selling a whole lot > of hardware soon. > > I do have one issue with replace: the audio playback drops out when I > send the command. I really like the result though. I tried using > substitute with zero secondary feedback. The playback continues when I > send the command, but the resulting loop is not as clean as with > replace. I can still hear the original sound behind the newly added sound. > > I'm wondering if this is the normal fonctionality or if I'm somehow > screwing things up. Ideally, I wouldn't want the playback to drop out > when I send the replace/substitute command and the new sound should > completely replace the old one for that slice. > > Any thoughts? > > thanks, > Sylvain > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 13:26:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C04203BE84; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZE/b+Uv/Os9yWvFkISx5YMwiUIFP6lkFnveFdsvA7ow=; b=looW403ceESyrUGS8yoFLMdHii10KpavvnGLGxi+fKT8vyc3gCWn7+FZJxisREOXcs OqTSJtGwK9pK6KP0e/0BFrtWNmsQ+qc6MJPVBLRi1dl241voTVlr92P0Ot/hIlTHJ7Yc aNgAFTCoFoHdkLu5BC/8bNX8pqIpZ5LZEFERQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jYmm/rPavc56uk+OIYAeQLP3weXs/fs7eAtbeedK+GDJT4lcllVvLIEqZZbAef1rmS 1XqRgbbW0bY1mv0z1iX7Ax8Pf/bDbaiaU1vyU1kI1duPBgPEwXFAyTdwxwcMsOz1FATo 0Pm6bdE3u5a//3MIpombf5ZEivCgQzfEFgMmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BA37555.8070509@tiscali.co.uk> References: <2871c3a91003190537x11f227d8gb3ac5add5204f3f4@mail.gmail.com> <4BA37555.8070509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:26:42 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a91003190626k4bf9d551sd95cf2057df1c481@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Replace and substitute in Mobius From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd51e2c5148930482274c27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:26:43 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd51e2c5148930482274c27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, I figured that was the key variable. I still had a bit of the old sound even at zero, though... But knowing that it should work, I can troubleshoot the rest. Now that I think of it, it's likely the microphone picking up the sound from my headphones. thanks! Sylvain On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:00 AM, andy butler wrote: > try putting "Secondary Feedback" to zero > > > > > Sylvain Poitras wrote: > >> Hi, >> After of hearing everyone sing it's praises, I finally got around to >> trying Mobius. So far so good; I think I might be selling a whole lot of >> hardware soon. >> I do have one issue with replace: the audio playback drops out when I >> send the command. I really like the result though. I tried using >> substitute with zero secondary feedback. The playback continues when I send >> the command, but the resulting loop is not as clean as with replace. I can >> still hear the original sound behind the newly added sound. >> I'm wondering if this is the normal fonctionality or if I'm somehow >> screwing things up. Ideally, I wouldn't want the playback to drop out when >> I send the replace/substitute command and the new sound should completely >> replace the old one for that slice. >> Any thoughts? >> thanks, >> Sylvain >> >> > > --000e0cd51e2c5148930482274c27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, I figured that was the key variable.=A0 I still had a bit of the= old sound even at zero, though...=A0 But knowing that it should work, I ca= n troubleshoot the rest.=A0
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Now that I think of it, it's likely the microphone picking up the = sound from my headphones.
thanks!
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Sylvain
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:00 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tisca= li.co.uk> wrote:
try putting "Secondary Feed= back" to zero=20




Sylvain Poitras wrote:
Hi,
After of hearing everyone= sing it's praises, I finally got around to trying Mobius. =A0So far so= good; I think I might be selling a whole lot of hardware soon.
=A0I do have one issue with replace: =A0the audio playback drops out when I= send the command. =A0I really like the result though. =A0I tried using sub= stitute with zero secondary feedback. =A0The playback continues when I send= the command, but the resulting loop is not as clean as with replace. =A0I = can still hear the original sound behind the newly added sound.
=A0I'm wondering if this is the normal fonctionality or if I'm some= how screwing things up. =A0Ideally, I wouldn't want the playback to dro= p out when I send the replace/substitute command and the new sound should c= ompletely replace the old one for that slice.
=A0Any thoughts?
=A0thanks,
Sylvain
=A0

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To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 20:19:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D446C3BE79; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y4nSQ/0sKmdbtdCsMyDLV2CQ86C9URN26fZNu9cJ+2k=; b=QUh/HZtAh7HhVumT9tYO5+7mCK/OeLXz17WGRNlHWEOdFCh7eVBeGu1o2P2u8YsmKQ /nXU7Lb7feaLpMc1PCKiX9Iih5xK8HLcfaM4GacL9/XBcco2VZ1O1n7i6uvVhW1msv8+ flXLc8r2bVOz/WuHdgkAmcNHOutr5+pcTSQZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MK+YH2+K5XmkltsVEasa/CzCxwwmYB8OpUOH+BWKvmMCASJXWkg/FyJmOIk8H5w3qr RhRPeg0qirRr1jeMR3QL9FAOe7dbf0FbfIe7aQmW+t/59Aq7JZbRCNHX6SahldgcJuJh H/kATebYgnnVLZXPoQmp69V/xXh8UZ5tDrUs0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a91003190626k4bf9d551sd95cf2057df1c481@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a91003190537x11f227d8gb3ac5add5204f3f4@mail.gmail.com> <4BA37555.8070509@tiscali.co.uk> <2871c3a91003190626k4bf9d551sd95cf2057df1c481@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:19:23 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a91003191319x76859c14yed6effd0af58d572@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Replace and substitute in Mobius From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e233d2a862404822d1025 Resent-Message-ID: <-SOsy.A.tAE.Mx9oLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:19:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e233d2a862404822d1025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My cheap sound card seems to be the issue. If I use it for both input and output, the playback bleeds over the substitute, but the problem disappears if I send the output to another sound card and keep input and output separated... I guess I'm going shopping. Sylvain On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Yeah, I figured that was the key variable. I still had a bit of the old > sound even at zero, though... But knowing that it should work, I can > troubleshoot the rest. > > Now that I think of it, it's likely the microphone picking up the sound > from my headphones. > thanks! > > Sylvain > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:00 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> try putting "Secondary Feedback" to zero >> >> >> >> >> Sylvain Poitras wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> After of hearing everyone sing it's praises, I finally got around to >>> trying Mobius. So far so good; I think I might be selling a whole lot of >>> hardware soon. >>> I do have one issue with replace: the audio playback drops out when I >>> send the command. I really like the result though. I tried using >>> substitute with zero secondary feedback. The playback continues when I send >>> the command, but the resulting loop is not as clean as with replace. I can >>> still hear the original sound behind the newly added sound. >>> I'm wondering if this is the normal fonctionality or if I'm somehow >>> screwing things up. Ideally, I wouldn't want the playback to drop out when >>> I send the replace/substitute command and the new sound should completely >>> replace the old one for that slice. >>> Any thoughts? >>> thanks, >>> Sylvain >>> >>> >> >> > --0016368e233d2a862404822d1025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My cheap sound card seems to be the issue. =A0If I use it for both input an= d output, the playback bleeds over the substitute, but the problem disappea= rs if I send the output to another sound card and keep input and output sep= arated... =A0I guess I'm going shopping.
Sylvain


On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 a= t 8:26 AM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I figured that was the key variable.=A0 I still had a bit of the= old sound even at zero, though...=A0 But knowing that it should work, I ca= n troubleshoot the rest.=A0
=A0
Now that I think of it, it's likely the microphone picking up the = sound from my headphones.
thanks!
=A0
Sylvain
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:00 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
try putting "Secondary Feedback&= quot; to zero=20




Sylvain Poitras wrote:
Hi,
After of hearing everyone sing= it's praises, I finally got around to trying Mobius. =A0So far so good= ; I think I might be selling a whole lot of hardware soon.
=A0I do have one issue with replace: =A0the audio playback drops out when I= send the command. =A0I really like the result though. =A0I tried using sub= stitute with zero secondary feedback. =A0The playback continues when I send= the command, but the resulting loop is not as clean as with replace. =A0I = can still hear the original sound behind the newly added sound.
=A0I'm wondering if this is the normal fonctionality or if I'm some= how screwing things up. =A0Ideally, I wouldn't want the playback to dro= p out when I send the replace/substitute command and the new sound should c= ompletely replace the old one for that slice.
=A0Any thoughts?
=A0thanks,
Sylvain
=A0

=


--0016368e233d2a862404822d1025-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 19 20:31:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AB8D3BE82; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rpzq+iWl8On4TGU2FGtockI0lZHEJZbUFYJG/mbj33Y=; b=GhLJu7gST14iuJIK6nhS0qft/9Pf8Dmrlkr4kIDktQvavvApXky2QTyehBi3DXwroR q8m5KqEkgIMa9Jt5w3ckjASkJv09OOxYItpZNvhX9jJoq8W0PI+VkgUTnBQlkBwgw/k4 ZMLL97FlhFMdqE4BkTqKAl4UL006xrduqHPHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I9yFPBVpuihB7UsAKAbiawYUnRTDf1gKJmkzqrQhg2eaInWsbHBCOzG7qRlUqOmysS vG4wNlnkMsXUkQRjmZ/xojYR6ar0xV4lznE8Vzp3ZXL7IFqyIO/fCzMqYQexa9VVHyO7 HeQMHu66btHC8n/15kGK12xonYmBjcqkQmcH4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a91003191319x76859c14yed6effd0af58d572@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a91003190537x11f227d8gb3ac5add5204f3f4@mail.gmail.com> <4BA37555.8070509@tiscali.co.uk> <2871c3a91003190626k4bf9d551sd95cf2057df1c481@mail.gmail.com> <2871c3a91003191319x76859c14yed6effd0af58d572@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:31:03 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003191331o6d001826q97e566bfc9448faf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Replace and substitute in Mobius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <21UtbD.A.dNE.I89oLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:31:05 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > My cheap sound card seems to be the issue. =C2=A0If I use it for both inp= ut and > output, the playback bleeds over the substitute, but the problem disappea= rs > if I send the output to another sound card and keep input and output > separated... =C2=A0I guess I'm going shopping. > Sylvain Good trouble shooting! Interesting and weird issue. Didn't know that can happen. Maybe some electromagnetic induction at the final analog stage? 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<= MAP name=3DMap> --VPcqdk7KMyyMgjyRHv=_8YO4m9RDXvM2hI0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 08:22:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8053A3BE7F; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BA48598.5000809@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:21:44 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:22:17 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 20 at 6 am EDT/UTC-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 11:36:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96CC93BE81; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=+X7tc/CnNqHKR4J2IePwkciKUp/bX+vaGcOHQWOlo+Q=; b=L8W+5UIkYvsBGNHliWyDa17fdnDvmxC+pVrSgu/QybFmKhPC+JXh3CUU7VB7UZNLcO 6aUczFNuPrvrmvWytzzPXxR/GGLE9KbxmrCXbO46x38KjfpVb4MKWzoiE0TPIdOdEhw/ iqUCbwStePahMsu8IgH3rE+hLYQbQZSEFnTbw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZHgJBFGA57EaDJPd1NfCa+eKbxdWPnU6Z6vOXrplPqm8nyxdjlHyCtBgOX2Y2pxxUW qjaveeen67hyWpB+UzZramtsPTYTwbDEFUCli04UxMQbA41JfjojDCkAbWcM6LtpALDy Fk0/kdHWK02nD2+FyhPEvpC4S9cxzZc4QxVso= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:36:30 +0100 Message-ID: <7a9df3e51003200436q41d90c9ay21ad5b274c02d285@mail.gmail.com> Subject: looking for a half rack mixer with sends From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fae4d06fcd0048239e092 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:36:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016367fae4d06fcd0048239e092 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey gang, im still looking for a half rack mixer with aux sends and at least 6 inputs,somebody mentioned the boss mx10 if anybody has any other suggestions or one for sale let me know. cheers Luis --0016367fae4d06fcd0048239e092 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey gang,
im still looking for a half rack mixer with aux sends and at least 6 inputs,somebody mentioned the boss mx10 if anybody has any other suggestions or one for sale let me know.
cheers
Luis
--0016367fae4d06fcd0048239e092-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 15:32:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 727243BE7F; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BA4EA9C.5050501@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:32:44 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Chez Mosc Today + Spring Equinox All Day Event Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Greetings EM Fans, This is to remind you that the weekly webcast called Chez Mosc will take to the air again today. Each Saturday at 6:00 pm EST (GMT-5), Howard Moscovitz and I will stream a live, improvised concert from Howard's living room. (Hence the title of the broadcast.) On today's show, we will be part of the Spring Equinox 2010 broadcast on electro-music radio. I hope that you'll "tune in" despite the irreparable brain damage it may cause you. ;-) Point your favorite browser to http://radio.electro-music.com and click on the Tune In link. Or you may stuff http://radio.electro-music.com/listen.m3u into your favorite music player. The radio page also has links to a chat room, the electro-music forum, and more. The radio schedule is listed and has links to each individual program. May peace and contentment be yours. Cheers, Bill Fox P.S. If you are living in or near the Lehigh Valley or plan to be passing through the area, please let me or Howard know if you'd care to join us for a broadcast. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 16:23:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45E743BE78; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary245271269102178327412" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:22:58 +0100 From: "Nadia Salom" Message-ID: <20100320162258.245270@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Live Broadcast: World Water Day To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19wAaMhKVNwlaz0T8BvZsLYCArpWKpcDGG9Aa0TJ8 T3dZ0TjqT7SegdCOUj0Pa+A1yf+qN1KJesXA== X-GMX-UID: LYPFL6Y+a0A7TpajLzMz8nI/Njh6dE6B X-FuHaFi: 0.54000000000000004,0.54000000000000004 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:23:01 +0000 (UTC) --========GMXBoundary245271269102178327412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi loopers, you are all invited to watch a live broadcast performance this coming monday... world water day... all the best nadia Invitation: World Water Day March 22nd, 2010 International World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a means of focusing attention on the importance of fresh water. An international day to celebrate fresh water was recommended at the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED). UN – Water has chosen Communicating Water Quality Challenges and Opportunities as theme for World Water Day 2010. Music Performance by Nadia Salom (nirmala07) and Astrid Hagenguth including "Yemanja" or "Water Song" with recordings of water from around the world. HBK Braunschweig Johannes Selenka Platz 1 Gebäude 05/Raum 206 Ton Studio 21:00 GMT +1 LIVE BROADCAST: http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07 World Water Day Infos: http://www.worldwaterday.org/page/2641 http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html -- Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 http://www.nirmala07.net Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser --========GMXBoundary245271269102178327412 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi loopers, you are all invited to watch a live broadcast performan= ce this coming monday... world water day...

all the best
n= adia


Invitation:

World Water Day
March 2= 2nd, 2010

International World Water Day is held annually on 22 = March as a means of focusing attention on the importance of fresh water. An= international day to celebrate fresh water was recommended at the 1992 Uni= ted Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED). UN – W= ater has chosen Communicating Water Quality Challenges and Opportunities as= theme for World Water Day 2010.

Music Performance by Nadia Sal= om (nirmala07) and Astrid Hagenguth

including "Yemanja&quo= t; or "Water Song" with recordings of water from around the world= .

HBK Braunschweig
Johannes Selenka Platz 1
Geb&aum= l;ude 05/Raum 206 Ton Studio

21:00 GMT +1

LIVE BROA= DCAST: http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07

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http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html
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--========GMXBoundary245271269102178327412-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 16:56:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88A183BE77; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.no; s=s1024; t=1269104188; bh=79kK1XHjHfS+duMHh1jbxD9wZJvk/8wcYYVQ2i/75Xs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uwvn/Q+5ynLA32oJZYqoNIvu+0s0/n96xoctIqYW6MbnJE0xPKiv7QTmAI/HlLPDhmpmGGYbofjjtYtgnLYjCBE0xZYKY6c07x10L6brJa+ECkwqWS7NHouQUQGxKsCNeHS3vjCq4vrcwK/+s8VQvJHuBnz6Bf4yrbmwraQNPGI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VNWCgWVKXhxP5zvjs4yZSR7x5/vGKQMQHnKcDDI2FSFMynR5X+uViZEpE3WqNW/OKd8GwdEeIF9MWG7wK+cNFoL1/y1/Q30wGFP3EBG037+DIH4/vwrqV+T89G4DMyC3tXESo5efaqzWLhbFqP3sz+KxhTICrJMzZWjhoZ9L7CA=; Message-ID: <198820.29310.qm@web23804.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wa2eVggVM1nVd3iUnXJ_.aOJHWJEwJie6Opcv_VLm2vBTTaZ8gMoSdtHvbGnnyk.9kBhSQGrStX4aEtQY_BkNdU6GOsOnTcCFURHAnz2yVgrFnJyp09dTRpv2J.FWF4nkFHMblJF9wuRzLOsC5sq68E2OHhJd5iiu9yNl.LoOge6pzqa3An4c8HiCaN_4XS4.Ak7ka8lQU4kUEUqjvaEqx1sHyWtwWj8HAa_AI3UAIWS_0mhGyEtIC0dwCkAb3c2tGgG2g1MxMOFJdmgxoEwSAfsQceaHo92HIS4IJJiBHlauLwzLOvS1dtxdbn1ZxK3ux9JNbYVXB7UPjHMtQStDw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:56:27 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Subject: OT: releasedate new mac pro - macbook pro? To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1942430502-1269104187=:29310" Resent-Message-ID: <6nUdfD.A.TMC.D5PpLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:56:35 +0000 (UTC) --0-1942430502-1269104187=:29310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=A0 Are there any news about releasedate on new mac? best regards=A0 Rune F.=A0=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ABruker= du Yahoo!?=0ALei av spam? Yahoo! Mail har den beste spambeskyttelsen =0Ah= ttp://no.mail.yahoo.com --0-1942430502-1269104187=:29310 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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http://no.mail.yahoo.c= om --0-1942430502-1269104187=:29310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 17:07:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FFB13BE82; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aaCjivx3I3spSNlcgXmoh4IuvJzoY9aTl5AcmJ4GtTY=; b=VyBvRx+RT/02c1P3uHx4TiNvtdgYycIFiOmcPJFlKHJlHtq16z7IAZ/PzSuL6hPBwW fg/hT7cC2J2cs5G9x7mZuHkPgaWdt/0SpPh+ydlk9Ecr2dYrK3jRHS3ueu2glbvrNgyN gytwdw0QsCacoJ2K6mOPXxabOTV26HWGh6eAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YgHWkLe2hHfioZYUs3LnCjqS6m66oREKx2/bU8y+YGDmLQcJZ33fZi+kS/KgMgMpDM yCL7D+SW5SwswV7JE/52Xe7KgLpRbq1IY/ZA7aj+ODDHLtc0UdUl9MVSMfI/MKJF6sUq 24LFdMAIyrP4CJzpA9yfslx7XIgdzD3hycypk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <198820.29310.qm@web23804.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <198820.29310.qm@web23804.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:07:21 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003201007l2c78f9a6p40786ea99af05128@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: releasedate new mac pro - macbook pro? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fa45c45a9d604823e7fed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:07:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016367fa45c45a9d604823e7fed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 5:56 PM, rune fagereng wrote: > Are there any news about releasedate on new mac? No. But for rumors, check out http://www.macrumors.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --0016367fa45c45a9d604823e7fed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 5:56 PM, rune fagereng <rune_fagereng@yahoo.no> w= rote:
Are there any news about releasedate on new mac?


No. But for rumors, check out=C2=A0

=
Greetings from Sweden

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--0016367fa45c45a9d604823e7fed-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 17:41:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A111E3BE81; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 70290.63586.bm@omp125.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269106862; bh=orFLB2t9OffDOc+y/BRFwXtJ4S49Q8HNza/fkuUKSbk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=es+rFwN1Uwan/OOFBIiAESs+taWE3pHg0pajVIJ8X6g9Osrp0qYGR0w+UEXQKU+SFkrKJ9W6uuOGiD4vCTD0kZx6qzUEfjIVZ+xuFv3+ISGyVS5wxh1mI3qIOjLMsHQXQjQ/jaR4uke4LsWXaaWNzmQa74vxtnr2qANqrc8XW/8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sqpIjK4YzulwLcFMkUBOAjIj4+rPeDouFCPe0XIqBRGIgjg1ufiUb56ilYQeE0KQ+N/WJbPL4ZTYaW9Zr5T3E0XYZf/kpF52OjvkYlP/UYNCbE/qZFGV2w/gMyzS6k0Hc68YMbJ2zB4GgJbLn//EE/2DtyPCN1nv1BqszYT8CFU=; Message-ID: <921578.35989.qm@web65609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Zn1Fh3EVM1kNUbKnoNUPee1mDPgk7eKTxXa0Y2FYm.BHX02emn9nd4v4JDjDyGCOVxc0LeAdVqO29XwkUa2P2CCSz7.F2URQ3TWeI3NqCls3syYfRA8.FQmDTwee_lLFYmk3OA12WEwqdm.5YhQonyO6ed5FkIdox.Y8hU1nCt59EwOeDNMFsiJA5yMyUtTE0FFL7tWNTgHOEb2AfcuFwX1jyhsfqdwkuVngzDdtP1wQiWLlVSGLvCFqrDESHlmmoiW2MBOUZ6t0.29eLtVUnLQfXb2OEHYQDLqdZr7aAce2qvouuokR_NvhVsmyHZYbB_LbfRUAyFlZEBOPXOVvnSQLG9lItv___xDegr7tBPfpKkls2mg1ArvztRRi0jqyyhuHwa7RAcQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <198820.29310.qm@web23804.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:41:02 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: releasedate new mac pro - macbook pro? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <198820.29310.qm@web23804.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2004866171-1269106862=:35989" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:41:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-2004866171-1269106862=:35989 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there is a new macbook pro about to be released? Need to know I am coming t= o the US in a short while and intending to bring a pro back home with me:)= =0Aantony hequet=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: run= e fagereng =0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.c= om=0ASent: Sat, March 20, 2010 5:56:27 PM=0ASubject: OT: releasedate new ma= c pro - macbook pro?=0A=0A=0AHi=A0 =0A=0AAre there any news about releaseda= te on new mac?=0A=0Abest regards=A0=0A=0ARune F.=A0 =0A____________________= ______________________________=0ABruker du Yahoo!?=0ALei av spam? Yahoo! Ma= il har den beste spambeskyttelsen =0Ahttp://no.mail.yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A = --0-2004866171-1269106862=:35989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
there is a new macbook pro about to be released? Need to know I a= m coming to the US in a short while and intending to bring a pro back home = with me:)
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antony hequet
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=0A= From: rune fagereng <rune_fagereng@yahoo.no>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.c= om
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Subject:= OT: releasedate new mac pro - macbook pro?

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Are there any news about releasedate on n= ew mac?
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Rune F. 

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=0A=0A --0-2004866171-1269106862=:35989-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 17:58:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BDFA3BE7F; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 342 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:58:49 UTC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1269107586183080" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:53:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Live Broadcast: World Water Day X-Originating-Ip: 70.185.104.47 X-Originating-Server: ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20100320175306.1D4AE44B6C@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:58:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_1269107586183080 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Nadia Will there be any videos to view after the event? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nadia Salom" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live Broadcast: World Water Day Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:22:58 +0100 hi loopers, you are all invited to watch a live broadcast performance this coming monday... world water day... all the best nadia Invitation: World Water Day March 22nd, 2010 International World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a means of focusing attention on the importance of fresh water. An international day to celebrate fresh water was recommended at the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED). UN – Water has chosen Communicating Water Quality Challenges and Opportunities as theme for World Water Day 2010. Music Performance by Nadia Salom (nirmala07) and Astrid Hagenguth including "Yemanja" or "Water Song" with recordings of water from around the world. HBK Braunschweig Johannes Selenka Platz 1 Geb=E4ude 05/Raum 206 Ton Studio 21:00 GMT +1 LIVE BROADCAST: http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07 World Water Day Infos: http://www.worldwaterday.org/page/2641 http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html -- Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 http://www.nirmala07.net Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 last.fm/folkstone57[IMAGE] --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze --_----------=_1269107586183080 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello Nadia

Will there be any videos to view after= the event?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nadia Salom"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Live Broadcast: World Water Day
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:22:58 +0100

=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 hi loopers, you are all invited to watch a live broadcast performan= ce this coming monday... world water day...

all the best
nadia

Invitation:

World Water Day
March 22nd, 2010

= International World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a means of fo= cusing attention on the importance of fresh water. An international day to = celebrate fresh water was recommended at the 1992 United Nations Conference= on Environment and Development (UNCED). UN – Water has chosen Commun= icating Water Quality Challenges and Opportunities as theme for World Water= Day 2010.

Music Performance by Nadia Salom (nirmala07) and Astrid = Hagenguth

including "Yemanja" or "Water Song" with recordings of wa= ter from around the world.

HBK Braunschweig
Johannes Selenka Pl= atz 1
Geb=E4ude 05/Raum 206 Ton Studio

21:00 GMT +1

LIV= E BROADCAST: http://www.ustream.com/nirma= la07

World Water Day Infos:
http://www.worldwaterday.org/page/2641
http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html

<= BR>



--
Nadia Salom=0D
http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07=0D
http://www.nirmala07.net

Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser -
jetz= t kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
last.fm/folkstone57

--=20

_______________________________________________
Surf the Web in a fas= ter, safer and easier way:
Download Opera 9 at http= ://www.opera.com


Powered by Outblaze --_----------=_1269107586183080-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 21:36:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46C133BE7F; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary245361269120971129993" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:36:11 +0100 From: "Nadia Salom" In-Reply-To: <20100320175306.1D4AE44B6C@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20100320213611.245360@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20100320175306.1D4AE44B6C@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Re: Live Broadcast: World Water Day To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/S5+0MZlbSIzdVrrt5I0XF01/NOXccIjTNNNPFim JkO3hAXALp5q3WmgMk3TgskxAziuhLAx/UWw== X-GMX-UID: g3nDIbApaHItTo2efCcl0dhiamdhZMS7 X-FuHaFi: 0.46999999999999997,0.46999999999999997 Resent-Message-ID: <2qraTB.A.uwG.O_TpLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:36:15 +0000 (UTC) --========GMXBoundary245361269120971129993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yes there will! also here is a world clock of the performance just in case anybody wants to find out the timing... http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=22&month=3&year=2010&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=37 all the best nadia > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:53:06 -0400 > Von: "Mark Showalter" > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Live Broadcast: World Water Day > > Hello Nadia > Will there be any videos to view after the event? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nadia Salom" > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Live Broadcast: World Water Day > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:22:58 +0100 > > > > hi loopers, you are all invited to watch a live > > broadcast performance this coming monday... world water day... > > > > all the best > > nadia > > > > > > Invitation: > > > > World Water Day > > March 22nd, 2010 > > > > International World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a means > > of focusing attention on the importance of fresh water. An > > international day to celebrate fresh water was recommended at the 1992 > > United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED). UN > > – Water has chosen Communicating Water Quality Challenges and > > Opportunities as theme for World Water Day 2010. > > > > Music Performance by Nadia Salom (nirmala07) and Astrid Hagenguth > > > > including "Yemanja" or "Water Song" with recordings of water from > > around the world. > > > > HBK Braunschweig > > Johannes Selenka Platz 1 > > Gebäude 05/Raum 206 Ton Studio > > > > 21:00 GMT +1 > > > > LIVE BROADCAST: http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07 > > > > World Water Day Infos: > > http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07 > > > > World Water Day Infos: > > http://www.worldwaterday.org/page/2641 > > http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html > > > > > > > > http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Nadia Salom > > http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 > > http://www.nirmala07.net > > > > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser > > > > > > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 > last.fm/folkstone57 > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > Powered by Outblaze -- Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 http://www.nirmala07.net Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser --========GMXBoundary245361269120971129993 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes there will! also here is a world clock of the performance just = in case anybody wants to find out the timing...

http://www.timeanddate.co= m/worldclock/fixe= dtime.html?day=3D22&month=3D3&year=3D2010&ho<= span class=3D"word_break">ur=3D21&min=3D0&sec=3D0&p1=3D3= 7



all the best
nadia

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Sat, 20 Mar 201= 0 13:53:06 -0400
Von: "Mark Showalter" <folkstone57@opera= mail.com>
An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re:= Live Broadcast: World Water Day

Hello Nadia

Will there be any videos to view after the event?

<= blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5= px; padding-left: 5px;">----- Original Message -----
From: "Nadi= a Salom"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:= Live Broadcast: World Water Day
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:22:58 +010= 0

hi lo= opers, you are all invited to watch a live broadcast performance this comin= g monday... world water day...

all the best
nadia

Invitation:

World Water Day
March 22nd, 2010

International World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a me= ans of focusing attention on the importance of fresh water. An internationa= l day to celebrate fresh water was recommended at the 1992 United Nations C= onference on Environment and Development (UNCED). UN – Water has chos= en Communicating Water Quality Challenges and Opportunities as theme for Wo= rld Water Day 2010.

Music Performance by Nadia Salom (nirmala07= ) and Astrid Hagenguth

including "Yemanja" or "W= ater Song" with recordings of water from around the world.

= HBK Braunschweig
Johannes Selenka Platz 1
Gebäude 05/Raum= 206 Ton Studio

21:00 GMT +1

LIVE BROADCAST: http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07

W= orld Water Day Infos:
http://www.ustre= am.com/nirmala07

World Water Day Infos:
http://www.worldwaterday.org/page/2641
http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html


http://www.unwater.org/statistics.h= tml






--
Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirm= ala07
http://www.nirmala07.= net

Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Intern= et-Browser -
jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser



Mark Showalter Minden Jot!  myspace.com/folkstone57 last.fm/fo=
lkstone57

--

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Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com


Powered by Outblaze



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http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07=0D
http://www.nirmala07.net

Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser -
je= tzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser
--========GMXBoundary245361269120971129993-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 22:04:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA6D83BE78; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=CAKuIcNxjNg/jjxBKfHUxfJ7Sxcy3IKPGmAULwr1WpU=; b=C+D4khpeMW/Uhv3W+4hAIwgR+8OgSM2LaizYH4B+K3+VO70Fb2BamraIUMs7W7UwuT J1Br00Qm1IN2q96uIloMdbEmb7SnctVLrdKNt/GOYOxQO/s64ILGv/EpA7RUp5BVYZje +q8/PBil3soqAY1FzC8w4HYRCk1nB9XmVGGAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kInbFioFF2binZ00lsNqq+EL3o14bRYSHxfujaxsBfxleMESm/oJI77TwMFqqgeq9Z eUeukBN7tb7FzIN0AJjTFvecxcjesA3o1T36+UsBOb820DJDAXLSp3R5jCTMVlacYvvj HVHi9upUKQAT2gDSkjbT7AIweiFL1GOdGDW8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:04:24 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a61003201504l75a4614er443b473f4c57512d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: VirtualGigSpam: Digitsignal Live tomorrow morning From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bd49c9d65e4048242a5db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:04:26 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bd49c9d65e4048242a5db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Digitsignal the NinJam/Livestream virtual quintet featuring Peter Thorn (Sweden), Jim Goodin (USA), Ray Istorico (USA), Jeff Duke (USA) and Steve Moyes (England), will be doing a live video webcast tomorrow morning (Mar 21) at 11am EST on URL www.livestream.com/digitsignallive. Historically our ensemble has been using video cover for our live audio casts using a 'classic' or 'art' film while we were trying to figure out a way to have 5 different webcam sources live at once without interrupting NinJam audio. We have worked it out and will be tomorrow for the first time viewable in our cast from our various locales. We are using a desktop viewer to integrate our 5 worlds. If that proves unstable we will go to a film and have the early silent film, 'The Deerslayer' in que should we need but hopefully we won't. To find our exact broadcast time in your locale visit www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. Digitsignal has a new digital distribution recording and CD recorded during February as part of the www.rpmchallenge.com. The record is called Absence Of Being and is on Bandcamp at digitsignal.bandcamp.com. We hope to see you connect with us tomorrow morning at 11am. Good weekend Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0023545bd49c9d65e4048242a5db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Digitsignal the NinJam/Livestream virtual quintet featuring Peter Thorn (Sw= eden), Jim Goodin (USA), Ray Istorico (USA), Jeff Duke (USA) and Steve Moye= s (England), will be doing a live video webcast tomorrow morning (Mar 21) a= t 11am EST on URL www= .livestream.com/digitsignallive.

Historically our ensemble has been using video cover for our live audio= casts using a 'classic' or 'art' film while we were trying= to figure out a way to have 5 different webcam sources live at once withou= t interrupting NinJam audio.=A0 We have worked it out and will be tomorrow = for the first time viewable in our cast from our various locales.=A0 We are= using a desktop viewer to integrate our 5 worlds.=A0 If that proves unstab= le we will go to a film and have the early silent film, 'The Deerslayer= ' in que should we need but hopefully we won't.

To find our exact broadcast time in your locale visit www.timeanddate.com/worldcl= ock/converter.html.

Digitsignal has a new digital distribution r= ecording and CD recorded during February as part of the www.rpmchallenge.com.=A0 The record is called Abse= nce Of Being and is on Bandcamp at digitsignal.bandcamp.com.

We hope to see you connect with us tomorrow morning at 11am.

Goo= d weekend


Jim

--
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www.myspace.= com/CtReUse

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--0023545bd49c9d65e4048242a5db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 22:08:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68D0E3BE78; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: DORMdKGswBADf8C_GRb1imzs247off59l_U6Y6vO9gGyGHyEw34- X-YMail-OSG: _Fk1kkwVM1n0jgCeEEV8PdZK2utLU6oNtKs4UTSXYfs.wDnfv.eRJTabWIeIo620isKRGd79RgJzZJPO.FrwoFOHH412fLW_czhtl2vFJyx0g1jljnEXtATWF3iHpNyuYCCZin8.56Xs1Z1NN076AWILCMAqKVpP8fDC9PNL43MAix2Mc5sph4NsZAGUO0f0ivGtKiAwjOtt6XB2HgbTKs1J5ApNF6cZgUUo X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Walker Argendeli Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: New Loopers Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:08:19 -0400 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: <09aHkD.A.7SH.zdUpLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:08:51 +0000 (UTC) For several weeks now, I've been getting ready to buy a serious loop = pedal. I've been looking around, investigating, and trying to determine = which is right for me. I'd like one of the more powerful ones, a la = RC-50 or Echoplex. I realize that software like Ableton is regularly updated, but I'd like = a pedal. The problem is, RC-50 has been out for awhile, yet some basic = flaws remain while Boss/Roland completely ignores users. The powerful = Echoplex (gibson digital pro plus) was discontinued some years ago. = Thus, I'm stuck- what do I buy? Are there any rumblings of new loopers = on the horizon, whether that's a boss rehaul (or even firmware update), = a new echoplex, or something else? I'd like something with a lot of = features (I realize I won't use many of them, but I like to have them = for tinkering), but I don't want to be stuck with the limitations of = current ones. Granted, if nobody's heard anything, that leaves me with the current = product lineup. What's the general consensus: RC-50, echoplex (bought = used), or something else? Thanks, Walker= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 23:02:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C257F3BE81; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zafXGQCEyYeMu7Tq3hLUsjGnhXsjDHsCr+qVg1UDraw=; b=wy3xEeHV0MXBCECkUdlk0imoPK3YN/1tVsNUDyY++HmRIHNLV/hxjJiLo7qXcT0ML5 /xGUJFEiTw9jgsuDMSo7Qi7dZdXta75/5XAO5WVmv+DwYuPXe3jXcPfcpw6FpMptmpXv LVzrNutVhe47yV8O+b9u3HtnaTD22nGcT5+aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VDSuCQlymyTXh7U/loCD2K7h5eywUZHmGDHcM5Zplt1pEJzTU5GTC3IndDcGrFoq6c Eq6ZwYE8Nwpx8YiA8mg/dFKjDZzL0mGAEnIHm4y/FgG8yTamyGSRk4jYe4RLIZ7wDtCN RPdjUTEZszu1gM5658vrr1HYJ3LxMvLcw/5yo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:02:54 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003201602l3dbb536dide0ae7de679fcddc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Loopers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7_t6n.A.TK.fQVpLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:02:55 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Walker Argendeli wrote: > getting ready to buy a serious loop pedal. =C2=A0I've been looking around= , investigating, Check out the new Looperlative (the smaller one). Maybe spec's are up at their site now. Anyway, you can search it in this list's archive and find a lot of information on that pedal. Brand new product, very good set of features. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 23:14:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 955B23BE82; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 393559.3032.bm@omp615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269126845; bh=BreKg7OLZsUyNTkD5MQWzuU24uxX4FZboCrlRwiF1nY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YcYF7Z/w1LHIopLlASD2Ex1aXX5a7tll8trbidHiOsFqQ6Ad4gtynbpduSoAvo6Gk2Xgw3nTfcyqzdLIuH6Xe0y1RSgO1VnERHNrB3UwJVJs23tJxxoqSJX716W4I2tmqXQlSchQLBBhfuUgkg7IkyuDIjvYDRTVKW1K+HSdlgY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BexIPrf85BbitQmOom3UG+4TdO96y260sEJeqaaw+i56ZwK3wi2s4JpC9PciMPL6tU1xSBWXAY6G3B9RnDPt97nP+2EOo9AdDSDrQc3exsTyF2KN5tXKiiuqBMG7A05F6vcaKMDluusSWWvzCK1VNtQzJC8YadBheKuXfQ+zbe4=; Message-ID: <273443.1671.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Bs5ZzmgVM1kZlB0Dmqqep1rMifcALeq9.GaZzWFnqIyetRO QUpSI8AnRdpOtJykx7PgCCoZCxCs4zKKpmLweXtZoWAac3aLkSYKkTMb_jr7 r7NCzDmCr2UifvM7g1mSOILi8EHTM70WBseNl1VyCwXwiscgasJ5RFp0z4cT zuPtNF8DrS09cVHjJzBlb11nuypoAgE95YfEkGPYz2QMtLhu8Vim6H1CYZMD wMKAky5qtAIhcjGZcvblfMr0CSws4PGKLiXQXJtrA6.nOfyuxL_3OSlFs1sL ZjS6uib7uAsbFRxTDXJTD8Hlt1ON2YtdQwbuEy99gKCYkTcNxg8N4hs8rgEX QlmExkzcwiDyyNlqpcsXzpovVSZGfO3IT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:14:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: New Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003201602l3dbb536dide0ae7de679fcddc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Just checked the site and only the LP1 at $1249 is there.=0A=0AI'd like to = know more about the new one!=0A=0A-t-=0A=0A=0A--- On Sat, 3/20/10, Per Boys= en wrote:=0A=0A> From: Per Boysen =0A> Subject: Re: New Loopers=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= =0A> Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 7:02 PM=0A> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11= :08 PM,=0A> Walker Argendeli=0A> =0A> wrote:=0A>= > getting ready to buy a serious loop pedal. =A0I've been=0A> looking arou= nd, investigating,=0A> =0A> =0A> Check out the new Looperlative (the smalle= r one). Maybe=0A> spec's are up=0A> at their site now. Anyway, you can sear= ch it in this list's=0A> archive=0A> and find a lot of information on that = pedal. Brand new=0A> product, very=0A> good set of features.=0A> =0A> Greet= ings from Sweden=0A> =0A> Per Boysen=0A> www.boysen.se=0A> www.perboysen.co= m=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 20 23:22:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F02E3BE81; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=B7ljKObdgNY4nzOhrK/Ou8xKzYRuRez+camjEdoTV7Q=; b=ZccH6W5HIC0KxWpzGT5pviZCbr+zAKsiv2BNUKoK5QmA566q1YZQPdeZP+G9dRVdgI cIBuT+9k93e0HIq/5U3Ik3NEP3mETuha1yaYgTrBNrUbNvl8vTJu1CkVptBFvZiZSkm+ Zlu1rKEQ0abBjKTgZTZWBqrm3sY+bWGEPTRbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Iiugxu51J53qOLGVuIhHcwELCInyv2EgLC4xG03liCg16ZBQIJKlipyWM/7EsS5VoI P3WpiUrJ0b7yIJ5R1DOFYBrwVASYNHr6vUQxcjkGYfhiIXu94nK3SnIG9nOXNt59My35 6Xizet5paH5nLVjJqfhAIe9qmvfDgnv2fFO+I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <273443.1671.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003201602l3dbb536dide0ae7de679fcddc@mail.gmail.com> <273443.1671.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:22:08 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003201622s4c6aa09cq6f5ea90c7c01f9a9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Loopers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Tim Nelson wrote: > Just checked the site and only the LP1 at $1249 is there. > > I'd like to know more about the new one! It is in this list's archives. Search it and you will find! An extensive feature-set has been posted here. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 21 01:09:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28F663BE78; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269133790; bh=dsIXna+RXOGpN1DNNlwr9G+bC9a93xQR4HssYWSr3I8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oo6KDbmkrn4EwWFT5C4LSd4u2QSEXhBnFSB57NG9x0xHy0SX6MpTANCB7/eaIO8QTQTB/LLTd7/319VkjlAYGqdrn5QDaAg/2NLNnQHD94BgUWBJiOR5I53cYFQ5+/KFhmtUTh7/c0DH/Y0RtSDr8H9sb7NNLY9BXOqK+y0R3z8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y5dxzxgRDRuwINtVzkI6b+kBuqlwjLNChJ4x11MJbFxOIjkmTW6E+Ls45nXgGC/6UBgnoWEz6+aI+y17SJaUTRnvqe93Xq/xZX+q3dj+82/hsCxRKryRyoFglo7/n1B1RK5rSlqNLPqCw+5Wxpn6fNSBJkr9gAdtkAuMkC7Aczg=; Message-ID: <167795.26844.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _1PaMOAVM1lk4ZtHE2MLPRz5HFib2ss9U68gEAy7YRbOZjKusaM6y984iUHYvj4lL4nQpQcOj.Efjz37_4b0sioQlBNH1CGbJzpnBvoIWljcLcfZ4207dy1TWU0zK9AE4T.iueB2skKdDHRZQxO9ux16h8AnO0a4h_1cW2XhJotJGKI2QmTM7aOGP6XanWRTeYvSmZWltpP0Z1Db7keZ6FVf3x0bOB7xYaOuh5ZLSCt4OXu8etxZVDnSz7DQBBKz5VnbcN5fKKxfPQ3M7HwB.bWzkbQpav6G8nGHupXITq.GhLcMVvlySOlRZyOwQaBVBhG4pp5eipgs0bpglsUqnTF_KMmiiEURXvdqePQrRGS.ddxU1L.mi60- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:09:49 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: New Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003201622s4c6aa09cq6f5ea90c7c01f9a9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:09:51 +0000 (UTC) i found a page with specs: http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=4621 --- On Sat, 3/20/10, Per Boysen wrote: > From: Per Boysen > Subject: Re: New Loopers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 6:22 PM > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Tim > Nelson > wrote: > > Just checked the site and only the LP1 at $1249 is > there. > > > > I'd like to know more about the new one! > > > It is in this list's archives. Search it and you will find! > An > extensive feature-set has been posted here. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 21 08:43:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 934AD3BE7C; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 367506120/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.168.239/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.168.239 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBALZ4pUtPRqjv/2dsb2JhbAAH1BGEfQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,282,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="367506120" Message-ID: <4BA5DC1C.2030702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:43:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Loopers References: <273443.1671.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <273443.1671.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Tim Nelson wrote: > Just checked the site and only the LP1 at $1249 is there. > > I'd like to know more about the new one! > > -t- > Well, so would we all :-) c'mon Rick, let's have a bit more tech talk from the Looperlative camp. There's a lot of unanswered questions about the feature list. So far, all we know for sure it's that it's a souped up DL4 without the delay models, with some kind of loop storage, and some kind of midi sync. Walker Argendeli wrote: > For several weeks now, I've been getting ready to buy a serious loop pedal. As to the original question, the best answer is probably the Looperlative LP1, perhaps starting with a simple midi controller for it (fcb1010) and moving on to Gordius Little Giant if there's a need to soup up the features. The Boomerang III is also worth looking into. However, as the technical spec for the desired product is "serious" there's no way to tell if an EDP will provide gratification or not. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 21 11:50:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95EC83BE82; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary67121269172247483463" Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:50:47 +0100 From: "Nadia Salom" Message-ID: <20100321115047.67120@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+ThCFPIsSThHUcCF1stnRnFg9M38JYLDhXR7cplh H1U1puBLs1jiG5I7JVtZsJFGxYSyLqm0dnyA== X-GMX-UID: JTGVcw0uMmA6cZygMWNnLQ45MjQ1N132 X-FuHaFi: 0.68000000000000005,0.68000000000000005 Resent-Message-ID: <8UiYXB.A.XgD.bggpLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:50:51 +0000 (UTC) --========GMXBoundary67121269172247483463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, what are the best CC Values to input into the Behringer to activate the Looper record function. I would like it to start recording when I step on pedal 5 and stop recording but continue playback when I step on it again, and then start again if I click once more. Right now, after a second click it undos my recording, and then with another click, it starts recording for a few seconds and then returns to playback. and also is there a particular cc number that ought to be set for the looper function... is 64 the best number or can I use any number? i am using an axiom pro keyboard and a launchpad, and left those both to use channel 1, and put my behringer on channel 5... so there shouldnt be any interferences... my settings for pedal 5 is control 1: 64 : Value 127, exp1 : cc 40 0-127 exp2 : cc 41 0-127 also my second expression pedal isnt working... do I need to configure the expression pedals in the behringer?? I am using iFCB to do the configurations... would appreciate any help, best nadia -- Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 http://www.nirmala07.net GMX.at - Österreichs FreeMail-Dienst mit über 2 Mio Mitgliedern E-Mail, SMS & mehr! Kostenlos: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atfreemail --========GMXBoundary67121269172247483463 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, what are the best CC Values to input into the Behringer to acti= vate the Looper record function. I would like it to start recording when I = step on pedal 5 and stop recording but continue playback when I step on it = again, and then start again if I click once more. Right now, after a second= click it undos my recording, and then with another click, it starts record= ing for a few seconds and then returns to playback.

and also is= there a particular cc number that ought to be set for the looper function.= .. is 64 the best number or can I use any number? i am using an axiom pro k= eyboard and a launchpad, and left those both to use channel 1, and put my b= ehringer on channel 5... so there shouldnt be any interferences...
my settings for pedal 5 is control 1: 64 : Value 127, exp1 : cc 40 0-127= exp2 : cc 41 0-127

also my second expression pedal isnt working= ... do I need to configure the expression pedals in the behringer??
I am using iFCB to do the configurations...

would appreciate= any help,

best
nadia



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--========GMXBoundary67121269172247483463-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 21 12:57:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 356793BE7E; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8vY/MqvpOxisuO+vBatg+drOlQYgvpZyawWP1iNoLfw=; b=cZ3cmrkn5VUAk8UmiVq51Jj07Vpaa6cATY1c7bLd2tS3YOHrlRNKbx4MAR6oDfJKvk qBjLtb0EbwZxJSWbKu+hJpv+N+gZd07PdfFCsDanPxip81kRciU78ZejBc286PgDkjef 4lqAa9FblPkql3KVyKGDDTQcta0h4j2SAp1Cw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=klqqvoMQxIUp2QgXzDOCS3pxS2mUkcmvWfvy4mqb+VJfNVL5aHAKPJNscNEYoCHDVs iBhJaLstx7gXwQGJN9ZBX1Nv/IJeKWHxyhATqOWCvMkeQS/OR+LSZDKFjgIOkBKiPgUH HH5/TEMxJKLChd5oJdh28xqV/4ZkwAmPicoXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100321115047.67120@gmx.net> References: <20100321115047.67120@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:57:25 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003210557y5089b6b2tc63f54fc4c4ed78c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:57:27 +0000 (UTC) To use CC#'s is not the best option with the FCB pedal. You should really go with notes instead right from the beginning. Use CC#s with continuous functions (like volume, pan, feedback or anything that isn't simply "on" or "off"). The functions you mention are all of on/off character and this is well supported by the Looper plugin of Live's. The settings you ask for are to be set in the plugin. I think this is explained in just a half page in the manual. You could also open that little "online manual" box at the lower left corner that displays text information about any part of Live that you move the mouse pointer over. Regarding the "not working" expression pedal it may have many causes. I've seen many brand new FCB's where the expression pedals did not work at all until you calibrate them. The manual can tell you how to do that and there are also fine descriptions posted on the web by users (Google them if you don't like the manual, few does ;-) The problem can also be that you are using a patch that doesn't include the second expression pedal. For each patch you create you have to decide both which pedal/button functions ("pads" as they are called in the manual) should be active and what specific message they should send when kicked. For the two expression pedals you can also set the range - like if you want it to go only from CC value 30 to 128 instead as the usual 1 - 128. Expression pedal settings deteriorate over time as well (!) so even if you program the pedal to go 1 -128 it may in fact only send out values 4 - 118, or whatever. Calibrating fixes this. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nadia Salom wrote: > hi, what are the best CC Values to input into the Behringer to activate t= he > Looper record function. I would like it to start recording when I step on > pedal 5 and stop recording but continue playback when I step on it again, > and then start again if I click once more. Right now, after a second clic= k > it undos my recording, and then with another click, it starts recording f= or > a few seconds and then returns to playback. > > and also is there a particular cc number that ought to be set for the loo= per > function... is 64 the best number or can I use any number? i am using an > axiom pro keyboard and a launchpad, and left those both to use channel 1, > and put my behringer on channel 5... so there shouldnt be any > interferences... > > my settings for pedal 5 is control 1: 64 : Value 127, exp1 : cc 40 0-127 > exp2 : cc 41 0-127 > > also my second expression pedal isnt working... do I need to configure th= e > expression pedals in the behringer?? > > I am using iFCB to do the configurations... > > would appreciate any help, > > best > nadia > > > -- > Nadia Salom > http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 > http://www.nirmala07.net > > GMX.at - =C3=96sterreichs FreeMail-Dienst mit =C3=BCber 2 Mio Mitgliedern > E-Mail, SMS & mehr! Kostenlos: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atfreemail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 21 13:05:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A6C3BE81; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=F6qTN6wbcR8UVWsdgHFkopP4f7AKOqDtObWD3g5HhR0=; b=Ioc/5WYMSWsGqJ5CCn7HIIasr5M4R47Cmb1HeECjOWQVJttT4R+JT9mAjS3istVc7J CnjUo8k+2DNdoYMGFDHsePabRycIkNPy3FFZPkl9Yjpep5jw2GiuvnneM2YBrXVMwzdt TZ64++9wE6aLr+gOCp/4RWhz2iTxnQmZnw5N4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OeKNwpF6oLlZFoqqDOkowW8q5jRUQBhl/XeAYcvbDGEcLiQHQHy/SatcBdIuKK7vUo U9g0ZdvM1VdvnK1JgKmPIgGHXr9397jTq8xt5YOR5TtNKpX3S7zobL1/13X1yoZr55Np VHxqupWGDUdoXv25ZUttOhKHx/ogc+VMhF5Mk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BA5DC1C.2030702@tiscali.co.uk> References: <273443.1671.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4BA5DC1C.2030702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:04:59 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003210604h45308da5qf59eff633e8923f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Loopers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0-kTeD.A._aE.8lhpLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:05:00 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, andy butler wrote: > As to the original question, the best answer is probably > the Looperlative LP1, perhaps starting with a simple > midi controller for it (fcb1010) and moving on to > Gordius Little Giant if there's a need to soup up > the features. Just for the foot control board record, there is also SoftStep. Said to be shipping "second quartier" and that's about to start next week! http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 21 13:32:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D12E3BE7F; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary67121269178316872960" Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:31:56 +0100 From: "Nadia Salom" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003210557y5089b6b2tc63f54fc4c4ed78c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100321133156.67120@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20100321115047.67120@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e1003210557y5089b6b2tc63f54fc4c4ed78c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19u3TRzG3Nuqbm0B3SvRu1u+3cXnEawkpUSkwyC9D sG6dgSiBkELcTrII7Xx5kPXzeGg3D9c/IdxA== X-GMX-UID: /iaVcw0uMmA6cZygMWNnc2E5MjQ1N91Z X-FuHaFi: 0.48999999999999999,0.47999999999999998 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:32:02 +0000 (UTC) --========GMXBoundary67121269178316872960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thank you! you saved the day!! > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:57:25 +0100 > Von: Per Boysen > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper > > To use CC#'s is not the best option with the FCB pedal. You > should > really go with notes instead right from the beginning. Use CC#s with > continuous functions (like volume, pan, feedback or anything that > isn't simply "on" or "off"). The functions you mention are all of > on/off character and this is well supported by the Looper plugin of > Live's. > > The settings you ask for are to be set in the plugin. I think this is > explained in just a half page in the manual. You could also open that > little "online manual" box at the lower left corner that displays text > information about any part of Live that you move the mouse pointer > over. > > Regarding the "not working" expression pedal it may have many causes. > I've seen many brand new FCB's where the expression pedals did not > work at all until you calibrate them. The manual can tell you how to > do that and there are also fine descriptions posted on the web by > users (Google them if you don't like the manual, few does ;-) > > The problem can also be that you are using a patch that doesn't > include the second expression pedal. For each patch you create you > have to decide both which pedal/button functions ("pads" as they are > called in the manual) should be active and what specific message they > should send when kicked. For the two expression pedals you can also > set the range - like if you want it to go only from CC value 30 to 128 > instead as the usual 1 - 128. Expression pedal settings deteriorate > over time as well (!) so even if you program the pedal to go 1 -128 it > may in fact only send out values 4 - 118, or whatever. Calibrating > fixes this. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nadia Salom wrote: > > hi, what are the best CC Values to input into the Behringer to activate > the > > Looper record function. I would like it to start recording when I step > on > > pedal 5 and stop recording but continue playback when I step on it > again, > > and then start again if I click once more. Right now, after a second > click > > it undos my recording, and then with another click, it starts recording > for > > a few seconds and then returns to playback. > > > > and also is there a particular cc number that ought to be set for the > looper > > function... is 64 the best number or can I use any number? i am using > an > > axiom pro keyboard and a launchpad, and left those both to use channel > 1, > > and put my behringer on channel 5... so there shouldnt be any > > interferences... > > > > my settings for pedal 5 is control 1: 64 : Value 127, exp1 : cc 40 > 0-127 > > exp2 : cc 41 0-127 > > > > also my second expression pedal isnt working... do I need to configure > the > > expression pedals in the behringer?? > > > > I am using iFCB to do the configurations... > > > > would appreciate any help, > > > > best > > nadia > > > > > > -- > > Nadia Salom > > http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 > > http://www.nirmala07.net > > > > GMX.at - Österreichs FreeMail-Dienst mit über 2 Mio Mitgliedern > > E-Mail, SMS & mehr! Kostenlos: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atfreemail > -- Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 http://www.nirmala07.net GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 --========GMXBoundary67121269178316872960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you! you saved the day!!

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Sun, 21 Mar= 2010 13:57:25 +0100
Von: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
= An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re: Berhinger FCB1010= CC Values w/ Ableton Looper

To use CC#'s is not the best option with the FCB pedal. You sho= uld
really go with notes instead right from the beginning. Use CC#s wi= th
continuous functions (like volume, pan, feedback or anything thatisn't simply "on" or "off"). The functions you ment= ion are all of
on/off character and this is well supported by the Loop= er plugin of
Live's.

The settings you ask for are to be set= in the plugin. I think this is
explained in just a half page in the m= anual. You could also open that
little "online manual" box a= t the lower left corner that displays text
information about any part = of Live that you move the mouse pointer
over.

Regarding the= "not working" expression pedal it may have many causes.
I'v= e seen many brand new FCB's where the expression pedals did not
work a= t all until you calibrate them. The manual can tell you how to
do that= and there are also fine descriptions posted on the web by
users (Goog= le them if you don't like the manual, few does ;-)

The problem c= an also be that you are using a patch that doesn't
include the second = expression pedal. For each patch you create you
have to decide both wh= ich pedal/button functions ("pads" as they are
called in the= manual) should be active and what specific message they
should send w= hen kicked. For the two expression pedals you can also
set the range -= like if you want it to go only from CC value 30 to 128
instead as the= usual 1 - 128. Expression pedal settings deteriorate
over time as wel= l (!) so even if you program the pedal to go 1 -128 it
may in fact onl= y send out values 4 - 118, or whatever. Calibrating
fixes this.
<= br />Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
ww= w.perboysen.com



On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Na= dia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
> hi, what are the best= CC Values to input into the Behringer to activate the
> Looper rec= ord function. I would like it to start recording when I step on
> p= edal 5 and stop recording but continue playback when I step on it again,> and then start again if I click once more. Right now, after a secon= d click
> it undos my recording, and then with another click, it st= arts recording for
> a few seconds and then returns to playback.>
> and also is there a particular cc number that ought to be= set for the looper
> function... is 64 the best number or can I us= e any number? i am using an
> axiom pro keyboard and a launchpad, a= nd left those both to use channel 1,
> and put my behringer on chan= nel 5... so there shouldnt be any
> interferences...
>
> my settings for pedal 5 is control 1: 64 : Value 127, exp1 : cc 40 0-= 127
> exp2 : cc 41 0-127
>
> also my second express= ion pedal isnt working... do I need to configure the
> expression p= edals in the behringer??
>
> I am using iFCB to do the conf= igurations...
>
> would appreciate any help,
>
> best
> nadia
>
>
> --
> Nadia= Salom
> http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07
> http://www.nirma= la07.net
>
> GMX.at - Österreichs FreeMail-Dienst mit = über 2 Mio Mitgliedern
> E-Mail, SMS & mehr! Kostenlos: ht= tp://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atfreemail



--
Nadia Salom=0D<= br /> http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07=0D
http://www.nirmala07.net

GRATIS f=C3=BCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!
Jetzt fre= ischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
--========GMXBoundary67121269178316872960-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 21 14:03:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ACC53BE7F; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1470 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:03:54 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:39:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: New Loopers In-Reply-To: <4BA5DC1C.2030702@tiscali.co.uk> References: <273443.1671.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4BA5DC1C.2030702@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20100321133923.A3E98247CA@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:03:54 +0000 (UTC) I was in the market for something new in the hardware looping dept. as well. I've ended up ordering the new Boomerang III. The version 2 software is supposed to be out in June which promises more independent control over the tracks. I should be receiving the unit early in the week. It doesn't have any loop storage capability, but that's not a feature that I've ever looked for. For me part of the attraction to looping has always been that I'm creating all this texture and background live and on the fly as it were. the boomerang specs can be found here: http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html Like others on the list, I was very interested in the new Looperlative, but after sending an email to them, couldn't get any answer to a possible release date, and I'm really more interested in something that has stereo capability. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada At 03:43 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote: >Tim Nelson wrote: >>Just checked the site and only the LP1 at $1249 is there. >>I'd like to know more about the new one! >>-t- > >Well, so would we all >:-) >c'mon Rick, let's have a bit more tech talk from the >Looperlative camp. > >There's a lot of unanswered questions about the feature list. >So far, all we know for sure it's that it's a souped up >DL4 without the delay models, with some kind of loop storage, and >some kind of midi sync. > >Walker Argendeli wrote: >>For several weeks now, I've been getting ready to buy a serious loop pedal. > >As to the original question, the best answer is probably >the Looperlative LP1, perhaps starting with a simple >midi controller for it (fcb1010) and moving on to >Gordius Little Giant if there's a need to soup up >the features. > >The Boomerang III is also worth looking into. > >However, as the technical spec for the desired product is >"serious" there's no way to tell if an EDP will provide >gratification or not. > > > > >andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 21 18:01:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B05EC3BE7C; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 79427.82662.bm@omp115.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269194469; bh=DKBiiRY055y1cUQ1xQqgD/nSF8v2wSsxaiwrmT7u61g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DNy32AoOwKCnKtg0x5jQV2dRvDBJdlgEBi7XqG01kOYR07Ghba44OeH9b8qjIqNm9t/gNhyRW2LAhmPX5bcPN76OxYxW8Siu2Jw5HeD+k4cC+EnSEvTNosd/qfg1eUG4glLtOCcAdCjPrkOefoxK8zxHCBqZfh2g5e/p5dCSrAY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ily0j9dqtUAL7Ory4uQSKQTyDNSYonuVG7SePqmVmbCY4KiCC9XR3lKzewxepDkQeOnakzm2fSZdyTojZSz78NEV9JciXD0+aTV+gso+wg31dGxnM64teuT+F2ouADJlZInCWRMWjeEQygW75bqV7Jr0phe5cu+DuoxQXSSwfZ0=; Message-ID: <907740.73114.qm@web65609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: n5rX8QEVM1lnveiC.2pJu4lx9yXX25wmn0dfKnQl20rYbsbRzB3IgQfGCQuZU5A6rmJ_4JkpQOtWP1YCEkU3yUWV6WIQeURfPPehcBYymFMzR8N4vqtFgbBFjBUM.pOng2VCCiiHQ6H0k_b0yPQjXz7ypIP.pW0uOTAa_uosJ9i5fJxCQQNWQK13RiIPRz6puU4KXggEfObwmOfkA83QK_A93E0W2Z8y2mIWi397TIfF_t73TBx62NNagzRXo_9wlaxBKS0svjYE8Sh_g_vCdHGQH6s30nDuqKC3iuKAp4LE1yD5QXkjE3WlVZi24UMo6fGzTpEGnCnNnXR6ctdvzM_F86XmC2eSIoAT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: New Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Looperlative LP1 or LP2 is the the thing, powerfull, updates, modern design, wishes heard... Antony Hequet ----- Original Message ---- From: Walker Argendeli To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 11:08:19 PM Subject: New Loopers For several weeks now, I've been getting ready to buy a serious loop pedal. I've been looking around, investigating, and trying to determine which is right for me. I'd like one of the more powerful ones, a la RC-50 or Echoplex. I realize that software like Ableton is regularly updated, but I'd like a pedal. The problem is, RC-50 has been out for awhile, yet some basic flaws remain while Boss/Roland completely ignores users. The powerful Echoplex (gibson digital pro plus) was discontinued some years ago. Thus, I'm stuck- what do I buy? Are there any rumblings of new loopers on the horizon, whether that's a boss rehaul (or even firmware update), a new echoplex, or something else? I'd like something with a lot of features (I realize I won't use many of them, but I like to have them for tinkering), but I don't want to be stuck with the limitations of current ones. Granted, if nobody's heard anything, that leaves me with the current product lineup. What's the general consensus: RC-50, echoplex (bought used), or something else? 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<77252.20781.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: doc rossi Subject: USB Key albums Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:01:40 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Greetings from France - With all the recent talk about CD pricing, it reminded me that another = option is to put a "CD" on some sort of USB key. I've checked through = the archives but haven't found the right search string. Do any of you = have suggestions for where to get these made up, or how they work - that = is, do people like them? Thanks, Doc= From heirttrustees@msn.com Mon Mar 22 11:05:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 345 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:05:22 UTC Received: from cc-yakult.co.jp (cc-yakult.co.jp [120.29.174.63]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061CC3BE70; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([82.128.84.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by cc-yakult.co.jp (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o2JAJlCn009491; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:19:53 +0900 Message-Id: <201003191019.o2JAJlCn009491@cc-yakult.co.jp> Reply-To: From: "Joo Cawthra" To: heirttrustees@msn.com Subject: 2nd Attempt Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:20:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Attn: Please, We wish to notify you again that you were listed as a Heir to the total sum of Five Million British Pounds in the codicil and last testament of our deceased client. 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--0-2125397432-1269267993=:35198-- From senator.nig@clicknigeria.com Mon Mar 22 14:27:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 8495 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:27:45 UTC Received: from sirp.jsyctech.com (sirp.jsyctech.com [202.73.54.238]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9843BE78; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [41.138.191.68] (helo=User) by sirp.jsyctech.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NtgBY-0004Of-88; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:52:47 +0800 Reply-To: < atm.paymentcentre1000@gmail.com> From: "Senator David Mark" Subject: IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUND VIA ATM SWIFT CARD Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:01:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20100322142745.0B9843BE78@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; FILE CODE #: ATM/LAG/NG ATTN: BENEFICIARY, IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUND VIA ATM SWIFT CARD. In close consultation with the World Bank, IMF and the European Union(EU), this is to notify you of your enlistment as a beneficiary of a recent Debt Management and Settlement Forum organized on the status of global arrangement to have your beneficiary fund settled once and for all.Of course, In the hope that you must have been aware of the past financial leakages in the European foreign inheritance payment system,and frustrations associated there from in your last attempt to claim your fund, fund of beneficiaries (like your self) was subjected to unnecessary bureaucratic bottlenecks in lieu of claiming funds due tothem. The World Body,having solicited and received the cooperation of Nigerian Presidency, in harmonizing the sequence of payments, have discovered from records of outstanding foreign inheritance fund of beneficiaries due them, that your name and payment has been with held and remain unpaid as a result of such bottleneck. On the prompting of this finding, I wish to officially notify you that all aspects of your payment claim is being harmonized, enabling payment to be released to you as urgently as you act on the instructions of this mail. Consequently, Afribank Nigeria Plc has been directed by the World Body to off set these outstanding debts, using ATM Swift Card payment arrangement. Already, a total amount of USD500 Million has been provided to the bank for this purpose and it is on first come first serve. With this arrangement, I wish to inform you that Afribank Nigeria Plc has been instructed to issue in your name an Atm Cash Card with the valued amount of USD400.000.00 In paying this amount to you,please note that it is without Prejudice to your original inheritance sum. Rather, it is a stop-gap payment arrangement put in place by the World Body to on the one hand ensure that you receive part of your fund, while on the other hand ensure that the process is smooth and without any form of stress whatsoever, whereas a comprehensive arrangement shall be made in future to pay off the remaining fund due to you. However, we are worried with the counter information received from one Mr. Casey Collins , purporting to be from your directive, with express instruction to activate the ATM Cash Card for release of fund to his name a bank account in the "Cayman Islands" Obviously, we are hesitant to honor this instruction as it were, and would request that you clarify same upon your contact with Afribank Nigeria Plc . In addition to that, you should provide the bank with the following details to forestall any mistake of issuing the ATM Card with the wrong information already submitted by Mr. Casey Collins: 1. Your Full Names:................. 2. Your Address:.................... 3. Your Sex and Age:................ 4. Your Occupation:.................. 5. Your Direct Phone Number:.......... 6. Your Resident City:................. Believing that this arrangement will suit your condition and expectations, we will therefore request for your expedited response to avoid any more delay. Your response should be directed to Afribank Nigeria Plc,Dr Dom Ibekwe ; Director Atm Payment Dept through his official email. Email Address: atm.paymentcentre1000@gmail.com Your file reference code for your payment is ATM/LAG/NG and should be quoted in your contact mail to the bank otherwise the bank will not recognize or process your ATM Swift Payment. Senator David Mark President Federal Republic OF Nigeria. 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--00c09f8a557fc4d82b0482649ff0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 22 15:01:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 518AC3BE82; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=EOxq5EBnzOdLEBC5hItEUBdiJ2bOGBRPXRWG2moNLUA=; b=qBUL38EPyQjFdbeCFTs8lnNervLwMB5TfIPnW09aIMlu/4Bt9Tzl0nXd31JGtMd6TT 2eRxLYDJFWDuQUDIz8xIWZ0i4vVS86p/x6lmEAGBSgQcxj3fieCYDFPZFljSeleQxbAV Bz/4TTKRZrmh18GZsLAq8zW7JrFwwdJRBGoaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ll3dekmBAQxwGTpiVi5ebykBuxtrX2Xq4NfV4Vf+7w+xORJax/SRFb1gfSW925dsLy SfEq9GhrdLD5On6gh29VRTio0uRwUo30ckbVdBLLkYrmap0xulLAQFoH0e6e+VOtOcQD usvvvcCrHI0+1p2ZJ2QuxFDj2XQ6k9Q9/LZ+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:01:51 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b1003220801s4db8a1c2h1b5786012a0ed2ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:01:53 +0000 (UTC) > unsubscribe Peter Leinhos is out of the office. If you want to unsubscribe from Farmers' Insurance, please write to the correct email address (but hey, for starters, you already got the subject and the body right ;). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 22 15:04:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21DEB3BE85; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3C8151AE-1F4F-4042-9E98-4FF106F0D8D0@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1052779932 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Loopers Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:04:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:04:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-1052779932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just for the foot control board record, there is also SoftStep. Said to be shipping "second quartier" and that's about to start next week! http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/ it should be noted that this is a usb device with the possibility of a midi option, from what I could see the slim design and compact design will probably necessitate some kind of add on midi adapter. Bill --Apple-Mail-1-1052779932 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just for the foot control board record, there is also SoftStep. Said
to be shipping "second quartier" and that's about to start next week!
http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/

it should be noted that this is a usb device with the possibility of a midi option, from what I could see the slim design and compact design will probably necessitate some kind of add on midi adapter.
Bill
--Apple-Mail-1-1052779932-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 22 15:35:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74E533BE87; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IHelW9htKMqH4quvdwIVKasJQ+wgXziaKykiW0Tw9tQ=; b=k2NVkaC2ZDb50dfAzcRmWQ2I1gcOUrorbKT45EM8yNyw/g4MiqF/bkQhIf6oeyi7sm jF2Aa6f2ImWBegszY+aD7CqmdjONNzHCE4hG9G3brFtnLdtt5cI7IWRm1rHs7wef1+5X 8NS20+uaiJj1e+WDtwseM9bsfUXK1j/MBRgmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=F1aiU5FSoJh9rlDz907gqcPXGZEBx5beHyx1bK1oP7fcqJvIuOo88yOV17GNns9ru4 rKoPdXns0mlxB7PZr8ea5Me8FFO3e5OmnZ1eyF5Dd9Cp8zNz9n85Z5mT3opkML5lNnlg 8XVzBk3k2E0riF9tlQOOzzsS67lbGkNzGDXqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:35:22 +0000 Message-ID: <2d351f01003220835l156d80bboa59d5689c2f68277@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6497e0203964f0482657223 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:35:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6497e0203964f0482657223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Folks, this is my newb post, having lurked for a wee while and dabbled in looping with an RC20-XL (now sold: good riddance to bad tone-suck) over the last few years. I'm wondering how those who've bought the new Rang are getting on with it now the honeymoon period is over... And also, how well does the master loop function work for putting down a beat? I watched the guy on youtube who does the whole band thing and the sound quality is impresive but his beat is terribly dull and lacking in groove/swing....Is it possible/easy to get a good swinging groove going over a bar or two as your master loop and build something that grinds nicely from there? I imagine it must be but wanted to check before I spring for a 'rang as I'm a song-based live street performer and a good groove is utterly essential to my performance. thanks! Ak --0016e6497e0203964f0482657223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Folks,
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this is my newb post, having lurked for a wee while and dabbled in loo= ping with an RC20-XL (now sold: good riddance to bad tone-suck) over the la= st few years.
=A0
I'm wondering how those who've bought the new Rang are getting= on with it now the honeymoon period is over...
=A0
And also, how well does the master loop function work for putting down= a beat?=A0 I watched the guy on youtube who does the whole band thing and = the sound quality is impresive but his beat is terribly dull and lacking in= groove/swing....Is it possible/easy to get a good swinging groove going ov= er a bar or two as your master loop and build something that grinds nicely = from there?=A0 I imagine it must be but wanted to check before I spring for= a 'rang as I'm a song-based live street performer and a good groov= e is utterly essential to my performance.
=A0
thanks!
=A0
Ak
--0016e6497e0203964f0482657223-- From www@mail.dinet.ru Mon Mar 22 17:24:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3816 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:24:27 UTC Received: from mail.dinet.ru (mail.dinet.ru [78.156.225.4]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056DB3BE70 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www by mail.dinet.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntk1W-000Pb1-Mb; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:58:38 +0300 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Dearest in Christ. MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:58:38 +0300 From: "Mrs Maria Williams." Reply-To: mrs.mariawilliams@hotmail.com Message-ID: <4144070f77d5396e1701ffb71b586683@dinet.ru> X-Sender: MrsMariaWilliams@london.uk User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_a64746d30d152c326b6bb3365ee155b3" Sender: World Wide Web Owner X-Bounce-ID: mail.dinet.ru --=_a64746d30d152c326b6bb3365ee155b3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ATTN:Greetings Dearest in Christ, I am Mrs Maria Williams from London, Uk. I am married to Dr.Jack Williams who worked with France embassy in cote d'ivoire for nine years before he died in the year 2005 in a car bomb here in London. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4663931.stm [1] We were married for eleven years without a child but before his death, we were both born again Christians. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is against. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of 15.8Million U.S. Dollars) with (Edmond De Rothschild Security services,London),here in London. Presently, this money is still with the company. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next three months due to cancer problem. Though what disturbs me most is my stroke Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to church or better still a christian individual that will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want a church that will use this to fund churches, orphanages and widows propagating the word of God and to ensure that the house of God is maintained. The Bible made us to understand that Blessed is the hand that giveth. I took this decision because I don't have any child that will inherit this money and my husband relatives are not Christians and I don't want my husband's hard earned money to be misused by unbelievers. I don't want a situation where this money will be used in an ungodly manner. Hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going. I know that I am going to be in the bossom of the Lord. Exodus 14 VS 14 says that the lord will fight my case and I shall hold my peace. I don't need any telephone communication in this regard because of my health,because of the presence of my husband's relatives around me always. I don't want them to know about this development. With God all things are possible. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the company here in London. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the original- beneficiary of this fund. I want you and the church to always pray for me because the lord is my shephard. My happiness is that I lived a life of a worthy Christian. Whoever that wants to serve the Lord must serve him in spirit and truth.Please always be prayerful all through your life and any delay in your reply will give me room in searching for a church or christian individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated herein. Hoping to hearing from you. Remain blessed in the name of the Lord. Yours in Christ. Mrs Maria Williams. Links: ------ [1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4663931.stm --=_a64746d30d152c326b6bb3365ee155b3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"

 

ATTN:Greetings
 
Dearest in Christ, 
I am Mrs Maria Williams from London, Uk. I am married to Dr.Jack Willi=
ams who worked with France embassy in cote d'ivoire for nine years before h=
e died in the year 2005 in a car bomb here in London. 
http://news=
=2Ebbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4663931.stm
We were married for eleven years without a child but before his death,=
 we were both born again Christians. Since his death I decided not to re-ma=
rry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is against=
=2E
 
When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of=
 15.8Million U.S. Dollars) with (Edmond De Rothschild Security services,Lon=
don),here  in London. Presently, this money is still with the company=
=2E Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next three mo=
nths due to cancer problem. Though what disturbs me most is my stroke Havin=
g known my condition I decided to donate this fund to church or better stil=
l a christian individual that will utilize this money the way I am going to=
 instruct here in. 
 
I want a church that will use this to =
fund churches, orphanages and widows propagating the word of God and to ens=
ure that the house of God is maintained. The Bible made us to understand th=
at Blessed is the hand that giveth. I took this decision because I don't ha=
ve any child that will inherit this money and my husband relatives are not =
Christians and I don't want my husband's hard earned money to be misused by=
 unbelievers.
I don't want a situation where this money will be used in an ungodly m=
anner. Hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I am not afraid of d=
eath hence I know where I am going. I know that I am going to be in the bos=
som of the Lord. Exodus 14 VS 14 says that the lord will fight my case and =
I shall hold my peace.
 
I don't need any telephone communic=
ation in this regard because of my health,because of the presence of my hus=
band's relatives around me always. I don't want them to know about this dev=
elopment. With God all things are possible.
 
As soon as I r=
eceive your reply I shall give you the contact of the company here in Londo=
n. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the=
 original- beneficiary of this fund. I want you and the church to always pr=
ay for me because the lord is my shephard. My happiness is that I lived a l=
ife of a worthy Christian. Whoever that wants to serve the Lord must serve =
him in spirit and truth.Please always be prayerful all through your life an=
d any delay in your reply will give me room in searching for a church or ch=
ristian individual for this same purpose.
Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated herein. Hop=
ing to hearing from you. Remain blessed in the name of the Lord.
 
Yours in Christ.
Mrs Maria Williams.
--=_a64746d30d152c326b6bb3365ee155b3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 22 18:25:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC0823BE84; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BA7B5F2.9040907@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:24:50 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for March 20, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:25:01 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2010/100320.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/UTC-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #170 March 20, 2010. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Combs Creek Haller Trapped Inside Singularity (none) Singularity * VA [Glyn Lloyd-Jones](no title given) Sequences No. 9 VA [Michael Shipway] Expedition Sequences No. 9 VA [Earthstone] Llid of the God Sequences No. 9 Mark Mahoney Voices Within the Beyond the Vaulting Sky Solar System (Waiting World) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Timothy Crane Play Dragonfly (none) Ann Sweeten Light from a Narrow Just This Side of Spring Window (Orange Band) 9Muses Not Love Feel To Heal (Blue Amazon) Scott August River of Stars Radiant Sky (Cedar Mesa) Paul Lawler and Chaco Wonders (Rainstorm) Paul Speer Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Morglbl Point d'Org Jazz for the Deaf (The Laser's Edge) VA [Pinnacle] Paikalliset Tuulet Tuonen Tytar II (Musea) VA [Pax Romana] Nobody Never Knows Tuonen Tytar II (Musea) Nothing Marillion Pseudo Silk Kimono Misplaced Childhood (Capitol) Marillion Kayleigh Misplaced Childhood (Capitol) Marillion Lavendar Misplaced Childhood (Capitol) Marillion Bitter Suite Misplaced Childhood (Capitol) Marillion Heart of Lothian Misplaced Childhood (Capitol) Martin Orford Take It To the Sun The Old Road (Giant Electric Pea) Alan Morse Cold Fusion Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/UTC-5:00. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram ======================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 22 18:58:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D777B3BE85; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WTbcZKSvkt5Dlnbm/lHdhmtjXo2ZJ8vlwzTYNgGj+SI=; b=R9VajDcuLjSteunJI4rS4KYyXKgTMrbBza64W9vSCZjMV7jUf0P7h9TPyVpJwI41Pm VunJjP+8GEPfQf/rgktNrxkH1IrFV/kyBSV2gYWeW2CI2lpD3t6OBJ/eZytnnhax0XxX R3p/LG8Vhqk06+agPckOB/EnXIMycrfP9Z1w0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SnplqhuVdSDvVZdD0uykKQ3YFaflhFXSnxVCXadr9u0zCtbDIGq2L/rAMyQkxwlGz7 D8sVCjjqlIxB9irnLLZkF9R+8X6K85jbHmhgEu+nfHUhD8+Q5Rs/3pOcuWFUE9KFszPT 2wJyVB2e0qsbkE1QEDN0TYhuofwxf7lxUkE10= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:58:08 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c01003221158v61de6a0ci93da53b9c0557691@mail.gmail.com> Subject: WAY OT: Video monitor glasses From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Apologies for the OT post, but given the general nature of this list and people's love of tech and toys it seems someone might have some experience with this question of mine. Has anyone ever tried those glasses that have small monitors in them that claim to be like watching a 50 inch screen or the like? There seem to be a lot of them but not a lot of reviews so I'm not sure if its a nice idea that is flawed or if they really work. I can think of many fantastic uses for these if they work (there was a report that people could induce out of body sensation be viewing the output of a camera that was recording from a perspective behind them for example) so I thought I'd see if anyone has any experience with them. You could also project video loops to get in sync with your audio if you had to I suppose. Back on topic now, Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 22 20:51:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8716F3BE84; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269291074; bh=XIFWr5vJUP4ROQKCU4xo2wxC8s4kmdE+83cENYEeDYg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CJwLOYVuOMuX2oVsKjUFD7tZMH2UaSzbD7dVG+8LwrHGYz4RGzPcOF14biPyV84F++vF5kMhsyhjJfaiWI3msq88UUwQKhlCG6S+darnEh8rrGeUc/b/m9dfYeQFPauuQzJL2OUDW+2uKv6TWgJvShTRAXIrc7lw9wp5lFPKeCY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x5XYpeHHulmVmlGbKdXpRXmdjyjg7rPBsVM7xEEO/n+JL4E2c2+HnDtrMpIsmFCtD71cIhPniGITjpp2wjZlP6gFh73t9/Bb9c0CxW91VvfwqZdL93LU/LOhqQO0y+VjhGdgOP0x5Vr7xCHhtBquceqhcN4Trr4PSwVcwZqoCRs=; Message-ID: <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GCU.5y4VM1lRA_M_OXqCVi1tVG7rqxtdcsTkHC9WWwF5DJxYwpqSIBRboL_FnMAzytqn1ty8AEHNDh62iyaUNEb8vvi13NkA5.QAB7UxHoHXSK3U7gumJIyhzgTefOfudxNBTf5MgUSPlIOXZBihRSwK4BzvkR5.AqmRwaTjWJF3ayRuvFW.6gUDV7wFLOGeH2pHc0HbnNLMDF_LcY.LopQK_cc9HeStxphbW32w7ODqnsYDi0pbIee9ouzOgX4Whz0kmsK5pW7Rt4UAUzlphnX.jas9V2OAdbU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2d351f01003220835l156d80bboa59d5689c2f68277@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1347895471-1269291074=:85398" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:51:15 +0000 (UTC) --0-1347895471-1269291074=:85398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't had a chance to fully exercise it yet. It is a nicely built unit.= The modification of the "Bonus" buttons/pedals seems a little squirrely bu= t not too bad. =A0 I am trying to manage the input levels currently. The unit seems to be not = too fussy but the signals I have been throwing at it were weak. I want to g= radually increase the input to get a stronger signal but not overload the '= Rang. More as I use the unit.... =A0 Question, though---what are folks running the outputs of their loopers into= for live performance/rehearsal? I am still awaiting a Mackie mixer I order= ed (that is way backordered) so I have to temporarily run the output into a= n older Tascam 428 usb interface. Then the line outs are then run into my A= lesis power amp then into a pair of Peavy 10 inch PA speakers. Cheap but fi= ne for home use.=20 =A0 One issue I run into when traveling and wanting to loop out of my home base= is what to run my looper into so I can play/jam. Recently, I have been thi= nking about one of the Roland Cube amps. Any thoughts on the subject? =A0 Stone --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Akraf Emaho wrote: From: Akraf Emaho Subject: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:35 AM Hi Folks, =A0 this is my newb post, having lurked for a wee while and dabbled in looping = with an RC20-XL (now sold: good riddance to bad tone-suck) over the last fe= w years. =A0 I'm wondering how those who've bought the new Rang are getting on with it n= ow the honeymoon period is over... =A0 And also, how well does the master loop function work for putting down a be= at?=A0 I watched the guy on youtube who does the whole band thing and the s= ound quality is impresive but his beat is terribly dull and lacking in groo= ve/swing....Is it possible/easy to get a good swinging groove going over a = bar or two as your master loop and build something that grinds nicely from = there?=A0 I imagine it must be but wanted to check before I spring for a 'r= ang as I'm a song-based live street performer and a good groove is utterly = essential to my performance. =A0 thanks! =A0 Ak=0A=0A=0A --0-1347895471-1269291074=:85398 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I haven't had a chance to fully exercise= it yet. It is a nicely built unit. The modification of the "Bonus" buttons= /pedals seems a little squirrely but not too bad.
 
I am trying to manage the input levels currently. The unit seems to be= not too fussy but the signals I have been throwing at it were weak. I want= to gradually increase the input to get a stronger signal but not overload = the 'Rang. More as I use the unit....
 
Question, though---what are folks running the outputs of their loopers= into for live performance/rehearsal? I am still awaiting a Mackie mixer I = ordered (that is way backordered) so I have to temporarily run the output i= nto an older Tascam 428 usb interface. Then the line outs are then run into= my Alesis power amp then into a pair of Peavy 10 inch PA speakers. Cheap b= ut fine for home use.
 
One issue I run into when traveling and wanting to loop out of my home= base is what to run my looper into so I can play/jam. Recently, I have bee= n thinking about one of the Roland Cube amps. Any thoughts on the subject?<= /DIV>
 
Stone


--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Akraf Emaho <akrafemaho@googlema= il.com> wrote:

From: Akraf Emaho <akrafemaho@googlemail.com&g= t;
Subject: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves
To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:35 AM

Hi Folks,
 
this is my newb post, having lurked for a wee while and dabbled in loo= ping with an RC20-XL (now sold: good riddance to bad tone-suck) over the la= st few years.
 
I'm wondering how those who've bought the new Rang are getting on with= it now the honeymoon period is over...
 
And also, how well does the master loop function work for putting down= a beat?  I watched the guy on youtube who does the whole band thing a= nd the sound quality is impresive but his beat is terribly dull and lacking= in groove/swing....Is it possible/easy to get a good swinging groove going= over a bar or two as your master loop and build something that grinds nice= ly from there?  I imagine it must be but wanted to check before I spri= ng for a 'rang as I'm a song-based live street performer and a good groove = is utterly essential to my performance.
 
thanks!
 
Ak

=0A=0A --0-1347895471-1269291074=:85398-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 22 21:08:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1E893BE87; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vowMfYZeAtjL/mSdNnlvU+s/WNtYsQIhwHop6Jpc3Hw=; b=E1l1CZr9RoiZDtmqfn9V4djWUeYh5Bl8YyjygnEuIcPFQNpyDCyNYVMDMoW7uWLojI 2cjOiPb2f2sNerlQr7sWu0Tnx3m55ByCJ37oXBUdRmTc39M05WxOlYOqnc8+eARMXD+q E9elOEWvIn7IN+3qG1Dm5Q59XiUr5MDwN7uN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QNbHtPirBZff/tmXIvMblabjBuLELQ0I/3bA4be1As115j2ILInLt+M7ypjl9qXyGn 7nMRb85+cRj20KpBU04bLhcNYFbJgftxZq8PRWat2CgCxdMkW0hP8SN/MO7LBLnPWb0y sdAXeCYPgzZ6KS6bbA1yVm5R2DxblZeVUu57o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <77252.20781.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:08:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: USB Key albums From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:08:19 +0000 (UTC) As far as I know, it's still much more expensive to mass produce USB keys than CDs, since there are more parts. Given that the next step in size (downloads) is already around and popular, I don't think USB keys will ever be more than a tiny niche of music sales. I have heard of some bands bringing an extra laptop on tour, with the ability to download the new CD onto a fan's USB key. I can see that working well: the fans buy the "download" while they're still excited about the band, and the band makes a much better share of the money than with download services like iTunes. You can buy USBs in bulk for something like that, but even when you get 1000+ of them, I don't see the price for each key getting less than $6 or so. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:01 AM, doc rossi wrote: > Greetings from France - > > With all the recent talk about CD pricing, it reminded me that another op= tion is to put a "CD" on some sort of USB key. I've checked through the arc= hives but haven't found the right search string. =A0Do any of you have sugg= estions for where to get these made up, or how they work - that is, do peop= le like them? > > Thanks, > > Doc > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 01:32:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42D2A3BE84; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wupS04QFJBPJoNe3l7J7DIW0CONmcMudVKZDTL8UIRI=; b=XYZBIGxJWYfiz2ISOf+izjK2HjWi30ztq1NAQez4ewG75i9umcnMWNbcHvnEvbDW3E F83pWGz0UTjdj+IkO8YbKTnTnR9Azd/vXJKyIZcNJWGaVMgy8mwUlcC/WiZ4c6kos7WM crVEIjlhuIlnmxjQNLc+qouW99gQ9HJ+tm2fI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bNiBKxC26LVtZ6KHK0k7SJqsLtjcj2f3+DBIJYJb5rqNUz8KC0ClMh8uGa0HJIklyi HpTf88Wxbjj6AjTTVtwXwhaUi9eKnBHkchabq0m3aiYOJg2kp6sXskY2S1fBinoa1Ymn B3Nr7Hp3lDafQraj67v0Nc5sYYpAuVjGG8mMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2d351f01003220835l156d80bboa59d5689c2f68277@mail.gmail.com> <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:32:12 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c06166e2d9804826dc86a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:32:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64c06166e2d9804826dc86a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In the right space, a Roland Cube can be perfect ... not for large venues, although I used a pair in Princeton University's Frist Auditorium and they were surprisingly loud (that may say more about Frist than the Cubes ... :) ... ). Best, Dennis On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Elmer Fuddski wrote: > I haven't had a chance to fully exercise it yet. It is a nicely built unit. > The modification of the "Bonus" buttons/pedals seems a little squirrely but > not too bad. > > I am trying to manage the input levels currently. The unit seems to be not > too fussy but the signals I have been throwing at it were weak. I want to > gradually increase the input to get a stronger signal but not overload the > 'Rang. More as I use the unit.... > > Question, though---what are folks running the outputs of their loopers into > for live performance/rehearsal? I am still awaiting a Mackie mixer I ordered > (that is way backordered) so I have to temporarily run the output into an > older Tascam 428 usb interface. Then the line outs are then run into my > Alesis power amp then into a pair of Peavy 10 inch PA speakers. Cheap but > fine for home use. > > One issue I run into when traveling and wanting to loop out of my home base > is what to run my looper into so I can play/jam. Recently, I have been > thinking about one of the Roland Cube amps. Any thoughts on the subject? > > Stone > > > --- On *Mon, 3/22/10, Akraf Emaho * wrote: > > > From: Akraf Emaho > Subject: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:35 AM > > > Hi Folks, > > this is my newb post, having lurked for a wee while and dabbled in looping > with an RC20-XL (now sold: good riddance to bad tone-suck) over the last few > years. > > I'm wondering how those who've bought the new Rang are getting on with it > now the honeymoon period is over... > > And also, how well does the master loop function work for putting down a > beat? I watched the guy on youtube who does the whole band thing and the > sound quality is impresive but his beat is terribly dull and lacking in > groove/swing....Is it possible/easy to get a good swinging groove going over > a bar or two as your master loop and build something that grinds nicely from > there? I imagine it must be but wanted to check before I spring for a 'rang > as I'm a song-based live street performer and a good groove is utterly > essential to my performance. > > thanks! > > Ak > > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016e64c06166e2d9804826dc86a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the right space, a Roland Cube can be perfect ... not for large venues, = although I used a pair in Princeton University's Frist Auditorium and t= hey were surprisingly loud (that may say more about Frist than the Cubes ..= . :) ... ).

Best,

Dennis

On Mon, Mar 22, 2= 010 at 2:51 PM, Elmer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com> wrote:
I haven't had a chance to full= y exercise it yet. It is a nicely built unit. The modification of the "= ;Bonus" buttons/pedals seems a little squirrely but not too bad.
=A0
I am trying to manage the input levels currently. The unit seems to be= not too fussy but the signals I have been throwing at it were weak. I want= to gradually increase the input to get a stronger signal but not overload = the 'Rang. More as I use the unit....
=A0
Question, though---what are folks running the outputs of their loopers= into for live performance/rehearsal? I am still awaiting a Mackie mixer I = ordered (that is way backordered) so I have to temporarily run the output i= nto an older Tascam 428 usb interface. Then the line outs are then run into= my Alesis power amp then into a pair of Peavy 10 inch PA speakers. Cheap b= ut fine for home use.
=A0
One issue I run into when traveling and wanting to loop out of my home= base is what to run my looper into so I can play/jam. Recently, I have bee= n thinking about one of the Roland Cube amps. Any thoughts on the subject?<= /div>
=A0
Stone


--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Akraf Emaho <akrafemaho@googlemail.com&g= t; wrote:

From: Akraf Emaho <akrafemaho@googlemail.com> Subject: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:35 AM


Hi Folks,
=A0
this is my newb post, having lurked for a wee while and dabbled in loo= ping with an RC20-XL (now sold: good riddance to bad tone-suck) over the la= st few years.
=A0
I'm wondering how those who've bought the new Rang are getting= on with it now the honeymoon period is over...
=A0
And also, how well does the master loop function work for putting down= a beat?=A0 I watched the guy on youtube who does the whole band thing and = the sound quality is impresive but his beat is terribly dull and lacking in= groove/swing....Is it possible/easy to get a good swinging groove going ov= er a bar or two as your master loop and build something that grinds nicely = from there?=A0 I imagine it must be but wanted to check before I spring for= a 'rang as I'm a song-based live street performer and a good groov= e is utterly essential to my performance.
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thanks!
=A0
Ak




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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 09:39:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BD313BE84; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XyzQhRcEStBP+ltcAhkDZM6gAbwO9alkcq8iNf2+K28=; b=MKeI32QuPB1C8SqweGPVsgW1gVQ/I2PKTuxxoD+8V/ij4s8CFV0h9irLMHGMiUXy6s XWswomYWLyeuMzLE7zqY7y1wk61zu1TJHL720fasltoStUX9DL5956IOL7AGs9Qv0qJD FxJcs0ypo1fc32HCRhHYWn9IhAx5vnKmaPHg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=timCSGpWwP4zwypa5aZIDZ/EjYaYHNKBiPO+ECQ27zUTlweOr0lS0flrn+8lQOuyzF nicmCBoOdKjEER+fYxM0RrnDcWdrUH59onupZt7RJz0oRaCyYi6QPqDSGufCv7TGE/OE edJ8up1U3cGj/DDanDXj0Bdq92OQMGJlTlkY0= Message-ID: <4BA88C4D.3000708@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:39:25 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD CD IV - pricing References: <77252.20781.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <77252.20781.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Am 18.03.10 23:58, schrieb david kirkdorffer: > If I can get pricing down to $100 / participant for 80 4-panel colour > jewel-cased shrink-wrapped CD's each, ($1.25/CD) I will do so. I'm > using $200 as a guide, to catch everything, and to avoid unpleasant > surprizes. As you can see, it could very well be less. I doubt it > could be more. And I will be paying an equal share along with > everyone else. I would love to participate, but I am probably in an even worse situation than Bill, no money whatsoever... But I could make some proposals: I could do the mastering. I've done mastering in the past for companies including T.T.M. Mastering and Nuclear Blast. With the big advantage that I know the loopers material, and provided with some info of the participating artists, I certainly can do a good job, time is no issue, there will be plenty ways to listen back and forth... I can understand, that "real" Cds are preferable over burned ones. If you order enough, as Rainer pointed out, more than 800, there is no question. But I'd say you also need to think of bound money, you have to invest first, and then you still don't know how much you'll sell... A Kunaki release is no risk at all, and for each participant only an investment for the own copies. For example including shipping to Germany for a lot of 10, this would be 30$. (Its cheaper to order two times 10, than 1 time 20 copies - interesting...) In the US its only 18$... So it depends on how many individual copies each participant would want, and if they bother if its a simple CD-R or a good print... If it will be a pressed CD (the only way to turn it into a collectible) I would still also upload it to Kunaki. For just giving away CD's the burned ones are fine, those who pay, would get the "real" ones... If you want me as a participant, and all others agree to cover my part of the initial investment in return for the mastering, I would love to add one of my Hithhikers Diary entries to the compilation... If all vote for Kunaki, I'd still do the mastering for free... Stefan -- Les Ondes MĂ©morielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From unideai@dawson.nswebhost.com Tue Mar 23 10:41:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from dawson.nswebhost.com (dawson.nswebhost.com [65.254.40.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE293BE78 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unideai by dawson.nswebhost.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nu1Xa-0002yE-EY for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:40:54 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cancellazione X-PHP-Script: unidea.es/es_es/cancellazione/index.php for 93.158.144.27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:40:54 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dawson.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32500 32501] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dawson.nswebhost.com Ti confermo che la cancellazione alla newsletter è stata effettuata From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 15:45:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1443BE81; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ktO2/FZ2PT/L+hfaHxKjll4XTJ0bUnIWI01Tt2zx0hs=; b=jRqWgxO895wY6FrWcyjoAa4aU60hJe5d77D0DFvM7AWhY41vCAkHED0P6enNPLOid9 Q0obl8g7X143+pHPzfbFhmHgFOK+S0VSS6FGWLLLwDUdLZUHCyPYTgrJEtM6K+eFlVVF pNOL85BAO3oysKxjVDL57HEYXDJ0oxLOyOJgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qCztlgFChJq0ixK02BJjIypYEEbEok9N7hg4tcmrX8+OkySW+MZMxcomq4cv+pWyqz nJZwjTvPLkF5FBfiEbvTpZNhIr95u9q2eGRowh2gXIrPh/Nf0aWQyimDEjsa0F+9/qeu JI9CX3QeQJJCDd1PZ/rG78maf2qq4Q8lwv3g8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2d351f01003220835l156d80bboa59d5689c2f68277@mail.gmail.com> <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:45:37 +0000 Message-ID: <2d351f01003230845o20dbe108ia875d975f792d804@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99e547957a9048279b4af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:45:39 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99e547957a9048279b4af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For mobile use the old Peavey Solo battery powered amp (not the similarly named guitar practise amp) is good. Its a mini PA with an 8" speaker. I've owned three over the years. Can be found on eBay for under =A360. For heavier mobile(ish) use I swear by the Yamaha Stagepas. --0016e6d99e547957a9048279b4af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For mobile use the old Peavey Solo battery powered amp=A0(not the simila= rly=A0named guitar practise amp) is good.=A0 Its a mini PA with an 8" = speaker.=A0 I've owned three over the years.=A0 Can be found on eBay fo= r under =A360.=A0 For heavier mobile(ish) use I swear by the Yamaha Stagepa= s.

--0016e6d99e547957a9048279b4af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 17:23:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 200C43BE82; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <28146.72.51.1269365025.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <2d351f01003220835l156d80bboa59d5689c2f68277@mail.gmail.com> <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:23:45 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <8Xh8H.A.eJG.gkPqLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ak, I've had mine for about 2 weeks, but I've been swamped with work. I'm still getting used to it. It's quite different from the m9's looper. I'll try and do a review next week. Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Mon, March 22, 2010 9:32 pm, Dennis Moser wrote: > In the right space, a Roland Cube can be perfect ... not for large venues, > although I used a pair in Princeton University's Frist Auditorium and they > were surprisingly loud (that may say more about Frist than the Cubes ... > :) > ... ). > > Best, > > Dennis > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Elmer Fuddski > wrote: > >> I haven't had a chance to fully exercise it yet. It is a nicely built >> unit. >> The modification of the "Bonus" buttons/pedals seems a little squirrely >> but >> not too bad. >> >> I am trying to manage the input levels currently. The unit seems to be >> not >> too fussy but the signals I have been throwing at it were weak. I want >> to >> gradually increase the input to get a stronger signal but not overload >> the >> 'Rang. More as I use the unit.... >> >> Question, though---what are folks running the outputs of their loopers >> into >> for live performance/rehearsal? I am still awaiting a Mackie mixer I >> ordered >> (that is way backordered) so I have to temporarily run the output into >> an >> older Tascam 428 usb interface. Then the line outs are then run into my >> Alesis power amp then into a pair of Peavy 10 inch PA speakers. Cheap >> but >> fine for home use. >> >> One issue I run into when traveling and wanting to loop out of my home >> base >> is what to run my looper into so I can play/jam. Recently, I have been >> thinking about one of the Roland Cube amps. Any thoughts on the subject? >> >> Stone >> >> >> --- On *Mon, 3/22/10, Akraf Emaho * wrote: >> >> >> From: Akraf Emaho >> Subject: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:35 AM >> >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> this is my newb post, having lurked for a wee while and dabbled in >> looping >> with an RC20-XL (now sold: good riddance to bad tone-suck) over the last >> few >> years. >> >> I'm wondering how those who've bought the new Rang are getting on with >> it >> now the honeymoon period is over... >> >> And also, how well does the master loop function work for putting down a >> beat? I watched the guy on youtube who does the whole band thing and >> the >> sound quality is impresive but his beat is terribly dull and lacking in >> groove/swing....Is it possible/easy to get a good swinging groove going >> over >> a bar or two as your master loop and build something that grinds nicely >> from >> there? I imagine it must be but wanted to check before I spring for a >> 'rang >> as I'm a song-based live street performer and a good groove is utterly >> essential to my performance. >> >> thanks! >> >> Ak >> >> >> > > > -- > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 18:11:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1B063BE82; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001701cacab4$aafd9530$0701a8c0@raem50> From: "Reid Ertsgaard" To: Cc: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:14:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01CACA71.9C4938C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1983 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1983 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:11:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CACA71.9C4938C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CACA71.9C4938C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CACA71.9C4938C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 20:37:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 903033BE85; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mqorYot8G4V7nbQBml+Xk92GKt6MoIDDhUthosyBjmU=; b=vgRZ89fWgvlgH1M1H6+UHbp6METzOc3GQ2vhDqm9AhUhlwooSAhSmR+rfpsq0T5/J2 6lDySw3nS/FrAT4ZsQqfUCuwbnsAPbckzqjRaf1cho4DKE8hr0LgGindG858DRoYXRO9 I5P9ZOmCTwCCoQ53hlGU8mwYbWhi472grqUec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KRioMarYAE2Xxj2lgSmqyyTq1GVljHtEvobOvvgsGPR9x1rlb7iz3sM1Gx7FzCqN1Z v5X9qCMJPYvd+nHQPgLDjhk9khFJX2Is+AsuXNdeFjMlZ8D1oK7RARI5RZgqyl3wt9JW 1QEW+iqmVpPjQrjFp7X+oSpcl27Z0wLi/xGJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003201622s4c6aa09cq6f5ea90c7c01f9a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003201602l3dbb536dide0ae7de679fcddc@mail.gmail.com> <273443.1671.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e1003201622s4c6aa09cq6f5ea90c7c01f9a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:37:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Loopers From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Ah yes, there it is in the mailing list archives. So, how do you get the pedal in the mailing list archives to record and play back sounds? Smartassily, -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > It is in this list's archives. Search it and you will find! An > extensive feature-set has been posted here. Beforewhich, Tim Nelson was all: >> Just checked the site and only the LP1 at $1249 is there. >> >> I'd like to know more about the new one! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 20:45:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADBDB3BE86; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269377131; bh=b1iMRcwOXFU0BXKAtq+9/tjmzbxPAWEBC2+KASvj0hw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NVZxS5TUDnNZUjduKUkXMcXViPGUnhDWiW+fOr/y180t4FpdYCf3EG+sBUm6mqAIqBap32SnvfnnTrk15iGGoiCA+0Z2nuBgrlvtYLkuwHa03vQ5I/IRgdNKhhNIcy6IaKRZqHND3ZZNRFKVQ9vwXAGu6nfpVttZu3Ure/TIJiY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ScCXVLkaJ2DG+Pf1s5/ImnVrDQ7NaOMg8hVYEqTpLZWGCzFDqeevopxhKeqtskvDhibFIwbStZvjpYX02EmMd9MgVk5rAE7nRVjzCAdhZ2a5fzpUowUUTxDtotRE1qI5gZCrUOYhDTustvISetNuY4vf1d9hU+fBQ+xghplbtj4=; Message-ID: <964157.21271.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uLUUTCIVM1lZGPmhgdidy7mc4zse.iwiMJ.nndXbgUzmQBH Zl7DmIohOBASjbNIsVS8qCjrbu8NZl0thepRWA.gHZaKAtEqI7T4yGcO10pn h_BJS4QsCEM5QMYWT_VSGfPGIgat0rQQyN8kxzipCeJjRILQjrjjlmbgPwz1 SndlvDYy_nCnBzMej_X1hFNG2MFALYXSxj6DWaagquccu5ejNVX9FvCNZKRS Nsb7yBU.su7YwhnKtzSlbHjMvtpqGaE5pvb_0P1U68nKPjnUfIDK2tFMtwjv oxVfR3.oH5Ji5vZpUtm34j4EQro9.QwYuCxLRBkaO6dGhlzFsk4CfVi7t6cG 7tI3IvccqEm6xcDGnvw.YFVJXKk0j X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:45:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: New Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I don't quite remember, but I think I was replying to someone wondering if info on the new one had been posted on the MANUFACTURER'S site, not LD... -t- --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Matt Davignon wrote: > Ah yes, there it is in the mailing > list archives. So, how do you get > the pedal in the mailing list archives to record and play > back sounds? > > Smartassily, > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Per Boysen > wrote: > > It is in this list's archives. Search it and you will > find! An > > extensive feature-set has been posted here. > > > Beforewhich, Tim Nelson was all: > >> Just checked the site and only the LP1 at $1249 is > there. > >> > >> I'd like to know more about the new one! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 22:31:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 163373BE82; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1269383474122780" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:31:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Live Broadcast: World Water Day X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.33.219 X-Originating-Server: ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20100323223114.41D2C7C002@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:31:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_1269383474122780 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Nadia, The link you gave dosen't appear to be working. Am I missing something or is it that my Mac can't deal with the PC world out there? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nadia Salom" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Broadcast: World Water Day Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:36:11 +0100 yes there will! also here is a world clock of the performance just in case anybody wants to find out the timing... http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=3D22&month=3D3&y= ear=3D2010&hour=3D21&min=3D0&sec=3D0&p1=3D37 all the best nadia -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:53:06 -0400 Von: "Mark Showalter" An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: Live Broadcast: World Water Day Hello Nadia Will there be any videos to view after the event? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nadia Salom" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live Broadcast: World Water Day Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:22:58 +0100 hi loopers, you are all invited to watch a live broadcast performance this coming monday... world water day... all the best nadia Invitation: World Water Day March 22nd, 2010 International World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a means of focusing attention on the importance of fresh water. An international day to celebrate fresh water was recommended at the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED). UN – Water has chosen Communicating Water Quality Challenges and Opportunities as theme for World Water Day 2010. Music Performance by Nadia Salom (nirmala07) and Astrid Hagenguth including "Yemanja" or "Water Song" with recordings of water from around the world. HBK Braunschweig Johannes Selenka Platz 1 Geb=E4ude 05/Raum 206 Ton Studio 21:00 GMT +1 LIVE BROADCAST: http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07 World Water Day Infos: http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07 World Water Day Infos: http://www.worldwaterday.org/page/2641 http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html -- Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 http://www.nirmala07.net Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 last.fm/folkstone57= =20=20=20=20=20=20 -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze -- Nadia Salom http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 http://www.nirmala07.net Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 last.fm/folkstone57[IMAGE] --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze --_----------=_1269383474122780 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello Nadia,

The link you gave dosen't appear to b= e working. Am I missing something or is it that my Mac can't deal with the = PC world out there?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nadia Salom"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Live Broadcast: World Water Day
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:36:11 +0100

=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 yes there will! also here is a world clock of the performance just = in case anybody wants to find out the timing...

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc= k/fixedtime.html?day=3D22&month=3D3&year=3D2010&ho= ur=3D21&min=3D0&sec=3D0&p1=3D37



all the best
nadia

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 = 13:53:06 -0400
Von: "Mark Showalter" <folkstone57@operamail.com>An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re: Live Broadcast: W= orld Water Day

Hello Nadia

Will there be any videos to view after the event?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nadia Salom" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Live Broadcast: Wor= ld Water Day
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:22:58 +0100

hi lo= opers, you are all invited to watch a live broadcast performance this comin= g monday... world water day...

all the best
nadia


Inv= itation:

World Water Day
March 22nd, 2010

International= World Water Day is held annually on 22 March as a means of focusing attent= ion on the importance of fresh water. An international day to celebrate fre= sh water was recommended at the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environme= nt and Development (UNCED). UN – Water has chosen Communicating Water= Quality Challenges and Opportunities as theme for World Water Day 2010.
Music Performance by Nadia Salom (nirmala07) and Astrid Hagenguth
=
including "Yemanja" or "Water Song" with recordings of water from arou= nd the world.

HBK Braunschweig
Johannes Selenka Platz 1
Geb= =E4ude 05/Raum 206 Ton Studio

21:00 GMT +1

LIVE BROADCAST: = http://www.ustream.com/nirmala07

= World Water Day Infos:
http://www.ustre= am.com/nirmala07

World Water Day Infos:
http://www.worldwaterday.org/page/2641
http://www.unwater.org/statistics.html



http://www.unwater.org/statistics.h= tml






--
Nadia Salom
http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07 =
http://www.nirmala07.net
<= BR> Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser -
= jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser



Mark Showalter Minden Jot!  myspace.com/folkstone57 last.fm/fo=
lkstone57
=

--

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Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com


Powered by Outblaze



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http://www.nirmala07.net

Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser -
jetz= t kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
last.fm/folkstone57

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Powered by Outblaze --_----------=_1269383474122780-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 23 23:46:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B94EF3BE7E; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fTRtaZOc1sGmbdBwgoIRjt3GfPYlnilmEqPLBGJEAAc=; b=HirShIySJ1ohBr8ZnUIlSrZldNULZBEeLykXsmAArWy2OL/sPxs4BRERSjjqSaWlE1 9zDULdSr8MPb/EtAHHD502vnFE2Wpo5JC0MuJnLOC0mlwOYk+6+oaj82iIsYrqi/jeWa k9+16QpeBFUgFZjiCT9hyuk7mZKTHKmwkCfEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JzjkDDf+UqMguFkq7wpY52GQefwaUlBphp42pdqfqkb/60pxgGp05eolj+zpYOb3Fx 2GVw4z0zJPA0fFBF3nq3iFnpBfjxggZNLq1iQxwFIXyEJ9dF+ganzZBY2XdwyEnRI2n+ 2k8t+4Nsvy++sF2KQFhzBpkdUmB5FKshuRq4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:46:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Line 6 M13 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13 today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10 repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :) http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3 -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 00:28:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7E2E3BE7E; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269390479; bh=icTqes5hq9Y7tGxGs/o99ZjsEjQnjEo5334yvOhFpS0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K0hZzyB0scIowEv+eKRZySDodaDKEDfiIAZVRXYp51+sAJEZQRDKd8URJG6q38uGUV8PsjNn6g/bYgTCuHieYlPWuP3TawQJyU+FqbV7Dodh6xokth6ET9GEZ3heHXC8Vbf5Mlkj35pYEF3tuUzGof+voG7l8TQiM8HcSiJSHqA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZBPuo9/rhrXTFEcpPf3Yg+ujB0INobtIuvGDBKWQZW73zrdscdy8EFixZ3dg4E3uB5oxzBeSRmRpuHauFKB3f0ddnh4zXCTsr/NXhMkf4k8tPSnxyLD+ipuasaa2Obw+vWowFa3Vqo8TdBG0WHkVBudqk4w9qLxq1GVnvNzEPMY=; Message-ID: <398246.4979.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 44UM1X4VM1mlBL6cMqgUVy71FdUxzw4qKSWk1oLhWQOIQpF loO_TfrgHSUeI8NPZ6B8Gd46VmrRWDgn4OZ31qE3FAarx110.tOiXYrtpwLN qMuguJ0risMVPSyL0gClH9LIYs9roNXvO5DikVzlHqaTFiG.FlGbCGXxdF14 AvUFH4M7KvdFDOMCuFMFYQJ42c74ys6qwVV1isSGRSUT0.DwbivWzBRMRWnt yO3x14883yCDwyzV7r1RpkFrSU5jghMDHzB_hiBlBOl7UAN2VnlpsOKqSa0j K2UCvHO5NwYIPb3gcCZz5lJzfR6osSUT89GVf2nSuYUwRSO.QQjXBRSlXYYI mqIOQEsezPK7vDBvEptn1vgVbNEel X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2093939049-1269390479=:4979" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:28:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-2093939049-1269390479=:4979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You can't dance to it! Nice, very nice. I had an M13 but used it in a basic straightforward way. Paul --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: From: Sjaak Overgaauw Subject: Line 6 M13 To: "LD" Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 7:46 PM Hi, I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13 today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10 repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :) http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3 -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ --0-2093939049-1269390479=:4979 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
You can't dance to it!

Nice, very nice. I had an M13 but used it in a basic straightforward way.

Paul

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com>
Subject: Line 6 M13
To: "LD" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 7:46 PM

Hi,
I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo
multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13
today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's
simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the
overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is
working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10
repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly
recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse
while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed
with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :)

http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/


--0-2093939049-1269390479=:4979-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 00:41:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C6CE3BE84; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1269391295; bh=GTZVX5q0NlKquEOEj2hkBg9xRUNWHBfIkeSkGyrG2RE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T+arz3J8+yo3LPhkszwa03oo/0hgF0NWupCHqVeeO93uHSdrvIKz2jSbdOMc3fgAfBpaj3VxXQlM+7aUr3iWfMp/DKmDlGXibW4kwWTZakPIXg8zy9dg9tYEW4jgfX9YpjEEG0pqoNWi1V1l3mYxD9s9pjSQXN38OYLKMI9fCT0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0bxW92JI1DWoBV/JOicocxC3ncbxhaw5Gxp9L66HLHmlpwJN244W38OySZtakySxRSHEfDTZ86mF5saJNHWN8aNrmnJ7NPYxxOpIrkZpmK5ILtQf3B84+40xmksRrgqtDZ0hSP5MtsXaRV0ax9HuFuju3VRJk/x6bd3Q31L3WqU=; Message-ID: <251696.44419.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PqxFHNkVM1ntSxxWCppXrW8CehEA9bMtJZ5b69VTkqvOChd ydQUhj3ZhAppiwLWJcp3NFN11xlwQViXGrfLqBHmX2tBaxuyZZg_DBrt95q9 19owaHddkjX2fKcwd0ZrESLmXhWbQJutoAGF5DZj9iAyiVwrjomtb9n6KTHU _Mj.dgP09BOk3YifyNst20v9g7mStHGw_uwj0wiyZhr6BOqRVW.A0.qKapVE e0Ad7LIstKoig474iXTAuidasImn6nGf2M47yTe5k5aM53OYhbFymFFE9ub4 TqhV5_5nOKoPEccYeFZMvKIgNJth95mITjkUYodW5gn6o16_7XVEs4ZySEKM GX_OM5bdBbQsIVdyeBhyrMeRifw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:41:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <398246.4979.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1521101415-1269391295=:44419" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:41:36 +0000 (UTC) --0-1521101415-1269391295=:44419 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very nice,=A0 I have the M13 and am very pleased, when I loop, I use it as = my main looper, but because I play in more traditional bands, it's just use= d as an effector.=A0 I really need to mess with it more, the only thing I w= ished it had was a multiply function. --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Paul Richards wrote: From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 7:27 PM You can't dance to it!=20 Nice, very nice. I had an M13 but used it in a basic straightforward way.= =20 Paul --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: From: Sjaak Overgaauw Subject: Line 6 M13 To: "LD" Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 7:46 PM Hi, I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13 today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is working=0A though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10 repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :) http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3 --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A --0-1521101415-1269391295=:44419 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very nice,  I have the M13 and am very p= leased, when I loop, I use it as my main looper, but because I play in more= traditional bands, it's just used as an effector.  I really need to m= ess with it more, the only thing I wished it had was a multiply function.
--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.= com> wrote:

From: Paul Richards = <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Line 6 M13
To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 7:27 PM
You can't dance to it!

Nice, very nice. I had an M13 = but used it in a basic straightforward way.

Paul

--- On T= ue, 3/23/10, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com= >
Subject: Line 6 M13
To: "LD" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com>
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 7:46 PM

Hi,
I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stere= o
multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's
simplic= ity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the
overall sound= is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is
working=0A though= , but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10
repeats even with o= verdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly
recorded with the M13, 28 s= econd loop, random half speed + reverse
while in overdub mode, nothing s= pecial. The M13 output was processed
with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enj= oy :)

http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/2= 0100323.mp3

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfacto= ry.com/
http://livelooping.be/


=0A=0A

=0A= =0A --0-1521101415-1269391295=:44419-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 01:34:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D9583BE85; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20100323193804.ik4kjtch8kg44kos@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:38:04 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: LD Subject: OT: need to borrow a BCR2000 on Friday (san jose area) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Hey all.. I'm performing on Friday night, and I am combining using Reason/Record with my LP1, and I realized I really need a second BCR2000 (one for the LP1 and one for the software)... Does anyone have one I can borrow for this coming Friday (3/26)? I'm in the SF Bay area, near San Jose.. can make it to SF and Santa Cruz, if need be.. thanks in advance.. :) peace -cpr From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 01:49:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B5DC3BE82; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CWqmE735tSxEcsUnvB+ti3SBFZ9INYiApUNh+UFD5UM=; b=CIeSTCKy4JqSL0f8eFtm8pGYYlJg4U9duGmeX1hJda31w/u9jOIA5LeIRI4cROB3/I /FT43scGOb1evQ4J3Na1F5KnzxnejPufg2rAKu1B6X8w7b8lYu0BvWDwUt6ee2KcuVAk mIp/bVY1vUJP/+stq/NKM27gLJsOISPPKBEFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UIRhZ2BwmAuTcdpxOqUp2Bz83yLnjnOX8OQHGPf6IkPHwltFN2iiz7O0on1kEBJ40B F1COGJfwceV77N4ATjNMfKhMhV+jfmDSICqz6WOA0iYJy52IwhV8i9HrnHVGyzRaLqWK 7TZxCoa+nU0MrWaQwe77P9A5TI1lNo2NpAX3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:49:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99bfe787b4204828222b8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:49:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99bfe787b4204828222b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable truly, seems you don't need much more than this toy to deliver your usual beauty layering ... 2010/3/24 Sjaak Overgaauw > Hi, > I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo > multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13 > today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's > simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the > overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is > working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10 > repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly > recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse > while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed > with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :) > > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3 > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d99bfe787b4204828222b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable truly, seems you don't need much more than this toy to deliver your usu= al beauty layering ...

2010/3/24 Sjaak Overgaauw <= tcplugin@gmail.com>
=
Hi,
I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo
multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13
today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's
simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the
overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is
working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10
repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly
recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse
while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed
with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :)

http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premoni= tionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/=




--
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m= =E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!,= no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "=


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d99bfe787b4204828222b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 02:41:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7001C3BE82; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 900 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:41:20 UTC Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:31:05 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: New Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100322-0, 22/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Walker If you're only using mono then the new Looperlative LP2 pedal about to come out looks to beat other looping pedals hands down. Personally I'm after a stereo pedal that behaves itself with midi sync, uses non-volatile memory cards, along with some other basic features I want and there's simply nothing out there yet. 2880 and RC-50 are closest but with many issues, so I'm just waiting. -- G. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New Loopers =46rom: Walker Argendeli Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:08:19 -0400 >For several weeks now, I've been getting ready to buy a serious loop = pedal. I've >been looking around, investigating, and trying to determine which is = right for me.=20 >I'd like one of the more powerful ones, a la RC-50 or Echoplex. >I realize that software like Ableton is regularly updated, but I'd like = a pedal. >The problem is, RC-50 has been out for awhile, yet some basic flaws = remain while >Boss/Roland completely ignores users. The powerful Echoplex (gibson = digital pro >plus) was discontinued some years ago. Thus, I'm stuck- what do I buy? = Are there >any rumblings of new loopers on the horizon, whether that's a boss = rehaul (or even >firmware update), a new echoplex, or something else? I'd like something= with a lot >of features (I realize I won't use many of them, but I like to have them= for >tinkering), but I don't want to be stuck with the limitations of current= ones. >Granted, if nobody's heard anything, that leaves me with the current = product >lineup. What's the general consensus: RC-50, echoplex (bought used), or= something >else? > >Thanks, >Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 02:42:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F293F3BE84; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:31:59 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100322-0, 22/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:42:17 +0000 (UTC) =46or what it's worth. When I received my FCB brand new, I immediately recalibrated both expression pedals. I found the 2nd exp pedal had a "dead spot" at one extreme, there was movement but no change in value. =20 I forget whether it was toe forward, or heel down. After exhausting other possibilities I opened it up and found the exp pedal's LED was slightly bent in one direction compared to 1st pedal's. So I gently bent it back into alignment. Fired it up again, recalibrated and it works great. Cheers, -- G. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper =46rom: Per Boysen Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:57:25 +0100 >Regarding the "not working" expression pedal it may have many causes. >I've seen many brand new FCB's where the expression pedals did not >work at all until you calibrate them. The manual can tell you how to >do that and there are also fine descriptions posted on the web by >users (Google them if you don't like the manual, few does ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 13:15:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 718BF3BE84; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9P+AvQTCfcJAqLkLvg+mWfp7XkpMRug3Ox47YsxnV+k=; b=riePE6VoDHztd9rKv24GtUjF6nr65HsWdzO4nnH9MG8F67GZC3TrtZXc6yeXmsqEIq EzfJgPyeGoWJq5KSDhkdJlkbznw+bitbFCYRZ/MqZr/OGTvEWvh579MZncYcd6pOE5ag WXUTffwLcvkVU6OFZzj2Yy22FNQvBJKopcTU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qp4aeTufqWzmHBG4IOct+7YrVC5ShBo4JdYJR4R+tZN1A8IIAzs1yInp6Lo+8RNlmb rMQWFJsPK+QalObLdGqpbx1Iw/ayJICWqFZxn7O8ZaE2VlqZhbtanN8TEoFvPDZv0pm5 +3iadLDS06ZNWhiD6vleuNfwto93JyLsc4LiQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:15:06 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003240615l28acd182y9601920e8757c496@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Nice story, G! I love and hate those B pedals. On my third one now ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:31 AM, G wrote: > For what it's worth. > When I received my FCB brand new, I immediately recalibrated both > expression pedals. I found the 2nd exp pedal had a "dead spot" at one > extreme, there was movement but no change in value. > I forget whether it was toe forward, or heel down. > After exhausting other possibilities I opened it up and found the exp > pedal's LED was slightly bent in one direction compared to 1st pedal's. > So I gently bent it back into alignment. =C2=A0Fired it up again, > recalibrated and it works great. > > Cheers, > -- G. > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper > From: Per Boysen > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:57:25 +0100 >>Regarding the "not working" expression pedal it may have many causes. >>I've seen many brand new FCB's where the expression pedals did not >>work at all until you calibrate them. 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24 Mar 2010 15:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:34:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Massive sounding! What synth were you using? The M13 is a really cool tool as is the new M-9, The variable feedback does seem to be somewhat slow to react, which makes me wonder if it is really going as low as 0% like the looperlative or EDP can, allowing one to create radical tremolo effects by rocking an expression pedal back in forth or create abrupt replace-like gaps in the loops content. Though shorter loops fade much quicker as expected. What I dig about it is the ability to place it before the effects so you can use up to 4 other individual delays or other effects to process the loop, not to mention all of the other effects it has that I use less frequently. since switching from the M-13 to the more compact M-9 I do miss the full array of screens and effects knobs on the larger unit, and the dedicated switch to change the loop from post to pre, but other wise its the same. you can create some serious ambience with these machines particularly with expression pedals attached and dynamically changing the effects. Its a really brilliant ,,easy to use, excellent sounding multi effect. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 15:49:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6A993BE8A; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Lc7mTPOqibV7Y57rZ6URcUfP6htsYCS7y9qY/QfTWLA=; b=q3xBzkgAzecGoAftyLfsxILyXwRHC5GxevR11mrWnbCLnSDlK33OXQaW99WZdEc7Iv YDYuV2PE+BVPnsiCP7jLg/DQFAR3w+WUKc7T9sqsWtUnHQ2FBEDTHlrJKi9uJP/Ko9nL dEeqZByMgzi7nqbh64k5yDgrcxSxgdf1RULOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TcvFvVTPtNztnXCaSmYi2TCS8+ruJstpQXwcrSgnPMRM75LGPG8OXm0Hghtpsum1Cb nlXs2JN5GP1IP0Qm94pnibhJqzWOfEHrin0k1AolFJywooy7ZjrMO5TmltPYA1iFhATA lQ3y8bKhE2AszpQheJsslg8dtitITrwk/7g8g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:49:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > truly, seems you don't need much more than this toy to deliver your usual > beauty layering ... Yep :) Each track on the Premonition Factory album was done with 1 to max 3 unsynced loops, without using high end looper features as offered by the EDP, LP1 or Mobius. So yes, if you're creating a single loop ambient piece, a M13 can do the trick because you can use it as both pre-fx and a 28-second looper with reverse, halfspeed and feedback. Just add a reverb at the end of the chain, that's it. However, most of the tracks on the album were heavily processed with pre-looper effects from Expert Sleepers, like Little Spacey, Crossfade Loopsynth. The M13 is a very useful unit but it can't replace these plugins. Anyway, since M13 OS 2.0, Line 6 has added many new features including, midi sync, midi controllable looper functions etc. So far, the M13 gave me a good feeling, highly recommended. Btw: For live performances, I'm going back to a mix of both hardware and software if I don't have to fly. The M13 will probably become my backup system for pre-fx and looper functions, just in case my laptop stops working .....which did happen a month ago. Mainstage and/or Mobius stopped working, probably due to either a corrupt concert file or plugin. And although I prepare and test my setup always very well, shit happens...and Murphy was an optimist ;-) I Had to continue my gig with a DD-20 but I was of course limited in terms of pre-looper effects and some really good Native Instrument patches I use. It almost felt like an unplugged looper performance! Anyway, I learned my lesson...I hope ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 16:10:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F1913BE84; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1269447007; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=sYxHW6CJCN9H4ubDoKp4dG0Xo9w=; b=XV/TJtmFt7ccYVbjhOVw0p72ZIFlkfiHfZsDx3hPKR11n1dNa81NQdnU4DvURnY3 sxYgo3g/+IrXbIBQbKXyjN2xJvwx1iDWnlUxdoAL8BIKoP76MgyytNm5zhlOaAW0; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=FStV2HmFUfqHnZDnOAWKBW8H2m4GtsEGSCN22xh/+Z4= c=1 sm=0 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=0JgxPECbfEIg3aTImHA1FQ==:17 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=qyk2pYupAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=IohcgyEqAAAA:8 a=lBwTeLnZAAAA:8 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=wod9hcA5AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=kqUGHpb5mmles2i6dZQA:9 a=2R4sJ0lUQjUSgkujVEYA:7 a=u9Lo98UVSyh1Xkan9KyIUmGrkL0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=zaMPjcxdHi0A:10 a=0JgxPECbfEIg3aTImHA1FQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <004801cacb6c$7717b7b0$90f13747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:10:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak, that was beautiful man! I really enjoyed that. Am I too understand that there is any variable feedback control with the M9/13? I know that the manual states that the old material "gradually fades with the overdubbing of new" but I figured that was more of a safety valve type thing to keep it from overloading with endless overdubs. Sjaak said: "overdub set on 0".... so there is an overdub control? Bill said: "The variable feedback does seem to be somewhat slow to react" I am seriously considering an M9 to replace my aging DL4. I have hardly ever used the looper funtion in it mostly because of the lack of feedback. I would get the M9 just for the effects section anyway but a more functional looper would be a plus! Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak Overgaauw" To: "LD" Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:46 PM Subject: Line 6 M13 > Hi, > I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo > multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13 > today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's > simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the > overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is > working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10 > repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly > recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse > while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed > with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :) > > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3 > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Walker" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 > Massive sounding! What synth were you using? The M13 is a really cool > tool as is the new M-9, The variable feedback does seem to be > somewhat slow to react, which makes me wonder if it is really going as > low as 0% like the looperlative or EDP can, allowing one to create > radical tremolo effects by rocking an expression pedal back in forth > or create abrupt replace-like gaps in the loops content. Though > shorter loops fade much quicker as expected. What I dig about it is > the ability to place it before the effects so you can use up to 4 > other individual delays or other effects to process the loop, not to > mention all of the other effects it has that I use less frequently. > since switching from the M-13 to the more compact M-9 I do miss the > full array of screens and effects knobs on the larger unit, and the > dedicated switch to change the loop from post to pre, but other wise > its the same. you can create some serious ambience with these machines > particularly with expression pedals attached and dynamically changing > the effects. Its a really brilliant ,,easy to use, excellent sounding > multi effect. > Bill > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2766 - Release Date: 03/23/10 19:33:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 16:18:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E81223BE8A; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VuFot4YEhL4LRTGXBKmAq1/RBkQTDCG+FZJ5dGHF5o0=; b=ZDLYL0jsyhwmv1OzLLXODu56XQPJeoqFb0/mD6QzJ41552YGJWxxCrZxJLUfCjM3HT h1v2Hq+RbaZIGCTx6WiNu5fPvX+zqOcHAzoWGkiErsmNvNugUSNicAtvgBRXzPKCNg9d EkooCnina93mK3ZWb82iBzpNsXuphTwCWWLY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tOVoaKym3qn34i9l+l9WII69CV3wXa8zlcCzsRLN8nxejrrLmwZ/zIpuagbDfJcB+D JpATt1DPp7d131i8udCI3hR3vmB+q6szBdkiFO516tsvpjAs1I4hYyFTHD3Mzbbc1Evi omW8O3t9GmMxZ4byH3jmHM+g+EiTdk8yGjeVY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:18:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:18:51 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:34 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > Massive sounding! What synth were you using? Nord mellotron patch + Yamaha elec.guitar/delay patch + Native Instrumument FM8 pad plugin =3D> M13 looper =3D> M13 pitch shifter + analog mod delay + stereo delay =3D> Lexicon 20 second reverb =3D> recorder > The variable feedback =A0does seem to be somewhat slow to > react, which makes me wonder if it is really going as low as 0% like the > looperlative or EDP can I'm using the latest OS 2.01 and (I think) it's not working as it should. When using the expression pedal to control the overdub (=3D feedback) level the M13, the loop keeps repeating for at least 10-11 times even with overdub on 0. So an overdub value of 0 is something like 60-70% feedback....but I haven't checked this with my stopwatch ;-) Could be a bug in the OS, because I saw a message on the forum reporting this specific issue. > you can create some serious ambience with these machines particularly > with expression pedals attached and dynamically changing the effects. Its= a > really brilliant ,,easy to use, excellent sounding multi effect. Yep! I especially like the way you setup the expression pedal parameter in the M13. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 16:20:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F0A53BE8F; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xDSSLxPNQcQm8+4CttBmiTv22KlPw8BARNyPcaSgJrY=; b=AP+4lYtBR/nVcOPaNZ55w76d+ehcws0pgv5brE2hKeVf2ogO4QIDT0ugpL3W1jnsmB q/bZwY77IQN65SUC3FfsN5/RAsgIiGw79folGEWdhx2S6MaDuz4fhZsyk6muvk6gJITI gd0vfnJiv8hsR3rqRSZ0OHpyAJBx1wX5crjTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VbCKWDtfMa80RpUE7WEZL2y7gooPpbhnWbbcG1L51T2k5lmga9OxYPa1WXp+Gsx41z UgzLA8nL+yc2L7X3SrN/hkLnm3J1mPHQThiG3o/0wUdsjfusWnlQuFLdgmIOxIetiugY PR1wj8XKtx5Me3cesqzAq+GJUIbf1/1WZuCA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:20:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003240920g1539514dvcb4b9075d14e1b60@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:20:53 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > The M13 will probably become my > backup system for pre-fx and looper functions, just in case my laptop > stops working .....which did happen a month ago. Mainstage and/or > Mobius stopped working, probably due to either a corrupt concert file > or plugin. And although I prepare and test my setup always very well, > shit happens...and Murphy was an optimist ;-) I Had to continue my gig > with a DD-20 but I was of course limited in terms of pre-looper > effects and some really good Native Instrument patches I use. It > almost felt like an unplugged looper performance! I heard NiN used two computers for each task in the latest tour backline. Both synced and fully working, although the backup machines just not connected to the audio output. If Murphy should hit an assistant pulls over the PA sound source tap to the backup machine with no audio loss. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 16:25:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD0013BE93; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=significantimagery.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:Importance:X-Identified-User; b=PuXeUMqb+Q2irea4auCMb65hzX3GGBQgmkvTW9nIz/2hpzmOFyZjDWWxzRiBmMPHEhM2jIQ1YZsw/2QjQDgPJQ+xaKxjFEIJ2nfOVtEupstwqTdUV2kvdwt2SRFcRE4R; From: "Nathan Lang" To: Subject: RE: Line 6 M13 (overdub feature request) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:24:50 -0500 Message-ID: <709637FB44A269489C5957CCBACAE517011F35C2@townsendexch.townsendprint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <004801cacb6c$7717b7b0$90f13747@tbl01fcf9be917> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcrLbHoqjls5D76nS+6OdsZfYEV1zgAACzLw Importance: Normal X-Identified-User: {1585:box565.bluehost.com:signifi1:significantimagery.com} {sentby:smtp auth 68.70.71.110 authed with nathan@significantimagery.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:25:46 +0000 (UTC) I have an M13, yes there is a overdub feedback control which you can = turn all the way up and overload with endless overdubs if you like. At the other extreme, one of my only complaints since I got it is that = if you set it all the way down to "0" it should completely "replace" the recorded loop after just one overdub(like you can do with the Boss = RC-50, Electrix Repeater, etc...) As said previously in this discussion, it currently still takes many overdubs to completely fade out with overdub = set all the way to the minimum. It only makes sense this should be corrected in a firmware update! For = those who don't need or want that sort of replace functionality, you could = still set the overdub setting somewhere between the min and max to your = liking. If any of you M13 / M9 users feel the same about this please let Line 6 = know so they will address this in the next firmware update! Here's the link: http://line6.com/company/contact/productfeedback/?topic_id=3D3 -Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 Sjaak, that was beautiful man! I really enjoyed that. Am I too understand that there is any variable feedback control with the = M9/13? I know that the manual states that the old material "gradually fades = with=20 the overdubbing of new" but I figured that was more of a safety valve = type=20 thing to keep it from overloading with endless overdubs. Sjaak said: "overdub set on 0".... so there is an overdub control? Bill said: "The variable feedback does seem to be somewhat slow to = react" I am seriously considering an M9 to replace my aging DL4. I have hardly = ever used the looper funtion in it mostly because of the lack of feedback. I=20 would get the M9 just for the effects section anyway but a more = functional=20 looper would be a plus! Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Sjaak Overgaauw" To: "LD" Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:46 PM Subject: Line 6 M13 > Hi, > I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo > multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13 > today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's > simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the > overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is > working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10 > repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly > recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse > while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed > with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :) > > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3 > > --=20 > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "William Walker" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 > Massive sounding! What synth were you using? The M13 is a really cool > tool as is the new M-9, The variable feedback does seem to be > somewhat slow to react, which makes me wonder if it is really going as > low as 0% like the looperlative or EDP can, allowing one to create > radical tremolo effects by rocking an expression pedal back in forth > or create abrupt replace-like gaps in the loops content. Though > shorter loops fade much quicker as expected. What I dig about it is > the ability to place it before the effects so you can use up to 4 > other individual delays or other effects to process the loop, not to > mention all of the other effects it has that I use less frequently. > since switching from the M-13 to the more compact M-9 I do miss the > full array of screens and effects knobs on the larger unit, and the > dedicated switch to change the loop from post to pre, but other wise > its the same. you can create some serious ambience with these machines > particularly with expression pedals attached and dynamically changing > the effects. Its a really brilliant ,,easy to use, excellent sounding > multi effect. > Bill > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2766 - Release Date: 03/23/10 = 19:33:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 16:26:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB6E13BE93; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=egHisdqMoUPYIGA298UG1VQKENz6Px17qVMg1fH9Ht4=; b=ivCffvbCgec2VuvL6aLpCkwg1RIAkAstqj3x9o/efi6LzjaywRdKhb+/pyX30rPoC/ Mhib+ahsWwKGLg1cWN6bmN9i3+yo2dnALBo1o/SmTRlpoFPdh7sKzot5wKJ4EI/FBZ1L csRIPDAeos9/Ktmf3eLFOJTUo6NT0VwZynjTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iVHS7R/25GH8BTQu6SqgPtd/CRGN4ACW6DWGhHTNXwpiFVT5BvggK+jXq54ieKX144 rcs0HvjFt977imaPwsi4wvaMDfHJdS4E+Rsn3+flof/89FKuCLzepLkjk6XB/EFE+Dxb 5pH8eLzDsesrBRnqGHvN03fTfGZWw+qd7LG/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:26:47 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003240926k16c3ccf9l241b13f8f71f368f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:26:49 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > M13. The M13 looks nice. With a looper on board and all. Any ideas if it can take two separate mono inputs for parallell effect processing? The Line6 Pod XT Live can do that. (good for STick playing, as you have two audio outputs that you may want to set up with different tap delay patterns etc) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 16:35:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E521D3BEBA; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1269448546; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=4J4xul+7FObI3zIUcmEdANqog6k=; b=OBkM9TNsij4OjS6GNqrhTYMKoZIrF4u0N0IqxMhIwmuV6wMMnEjdv+PCG26AY7ox omEB5pIEiSn92vCN73ir2/y1Ulu+i9h4GwChxL2aJZRWerBkVD/eECu0VOuA7cz/; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=H0Xzs8dxqY1aQYIydwlUsIKG840Zlsa3k+Myw//Xz00= c=1 sm=0 a=dGbgw8B78PMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=0JgxPECbfEIg3aTImHA1FQ==:17 a=bSeLx5mjAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=jkxRxPM0AAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=qyk2pYupAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=IohcgyEqAAAA:8 a=lBwTeLnZAAAA:8 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=wod9hcA5AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=jmQmpIuq-4iDpc0FIsAA:9 a=nLb0VB3ruH-vZ39k_FoA:7 a=DzzDD_xwivKj7tU9_gRvPGEc-mUA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ajbwrPefVAwA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=zaMPjcxdHi0A:10 a=0JgxPECbfEIg3aTImHA1FQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=Jeff_d; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <005101cacb70$0c19e600$90f13747@tbl01fcf9be917> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <709637FB44A269489C5957CCBACAE517011F35C2@townsendexch.townsendprint.com> Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 (overdub feature request) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:35:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Nathan, I will! Seems like a simple thing you know? Is it too much to ask? :) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Lang" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:24 PM Subject: RE: Line 6 M13 (overdub feature request) I have an M13, yes there is a overdub feedback control which you can turn all the way up and overload with endless overdubs if you like. At the other extreme, one of my only complaints since I got it is that if you set it all the way down to "0" it should completely "replace" the recorded loop after just one overdub(like you can do with the Boss RC-50, Electrix Repeater, etc...) As said previously in this discussion, it currently still takes many overdubs to completely fade out with overdub set all the way to the minimum. It only makes sense this should be corrected in a firmware update! For those who don't need or want that sort of replace functionality, you could still set the overdub setting somewhere between the min and max to your liking. If any of you M13 / M9 users feel the same about this please let Line 6 know so they will address this in the next firmware update! Here's the link: http://line6.com/company/contact/productfeedback/?topic_id=3 -Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 Sjaak, that was beautiful man! I really enjoyed that. Am I too understand that there is any variable feedback control with the M9/13? I know that the manual states that the old material "gradually fades with the overdubbing of new" but I figured that was more of a safety valve type thing to keep it from overloading with endless overdubs. Sjaak said: "overdub set on 0".... so there is an overdub control? Bill said: "The variable feedback does seem to be somewhat slow to react" I am seriously considering an M9 to replace my aging DL4. I have hardly ever used the looper funtion in it mostly because of the lack of feedback. I would get the M9 just for the effects section anyway but a more functional looper would be a plus! Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak Overgaauw" To: "LD" Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:46 PM Subject: Line 6 M13 > Hi, > I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo > multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13 > today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's > simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the > overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is > working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10 > repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly > recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse > while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed > with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :) > > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3 > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Walker" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 > Massive sounding! What synth were you using? The M13 is a really cool > tool as is the new M-9, The variable feedback does seem to be > somewhat slow to react, which makes me wonder if it is really going as > low as 0% like the looperlative or EDP can, allowing one to create > radical tremolo effects by rocking an expression pedal back in forth > or create abrupt replace-like gaps in the loops content. Though > shorter loops fade much quicker as expected. What I dig about it is > the ability to place it before the effects so you can use up to 4 > other individual delays or other effects to process the loop, not to > mention all of the other effects it has that I use less frequently. > since switching from the M-13 to the more compact M-9 I do miss the > full array of screens and effects knobs on the larger unit, and the > dedicated switch to change the loop from post to pre, but other wise > its the same. you can create some serious ambience with these machines > particularly with expression pedals attached and dynamically changing > the effects. Its a really brilliant ,,easy to use, excellent sounding > multi effect. > Bill > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2766 - Release Date: 03/23/10 19:33:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 19:00:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7A7E3BE92; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=6M+QCBt2p0xsE9iKZ0uH/ETC1X05oN1bE5ueUur1o6Q=; b=QeHywftDkwM1IRNu4S4P0KMHMN+fjoyFumX5MABG+wsO4TOsRjT6DVwjS6fhv3psgh op25wy1hSXbcP1rQ2KTU1FHJMQOvglsWeSGYbFR4ZZOVXvGrNWo9QHEsZf0EEf+t3jWY aU+9AfXtQkUP6mUz/uqq5vEdEEhumC7U5gE80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kmTIYO6mUJXQmDD6CJuuVX6tMYm8CpaJ36qi1pcQSTbyaUtIXyG6s6te8WuhU+LArI BPJRjN67qJqPR8pA7A3CNI7Xlcz41bFMIcUXd/kDsG9RmXVw8eOdw7gC2Op23w2w9BjH UQEdijlgXWRbIj5eIB2aZtRii1VYBp8wqoPq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:00:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: OT:digitech gnx3000 (or gnx floor pedals) ? From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b9b7ab28290482908a97 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:00:21 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0b9b7ab28290482908a97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 does anyone have any experience w/ the digitech gnx3000 or gnx floorboard effects units? (good/bad/hate/love?) i've been debating a change, my table top desk area is JAM PACKED...and was thinking of having something on the floor to clear up table top space. the few reviews i've read have been decent, most who don't like it say it's too complicated (which i as a DUMB guitarist am worried about or they have problems w/ the software recording...). and i'm really debating my method of liking to have things at hands reach for knob twiddling.... of course this could be solved if i got rid of my small desk and just got a 6' table (but then i'd have to do some minor/major moving-i'm lazy!) i guess the reason for the thought of change has been RICK WALKER'S discussion of his NOISE SET UP, and as of late i've not been using my 2 small modelers as much (digitech rp150 & zoom g2) and have been using just one in conjuction w/ my sonic audio multi-wave distortion (plenty of distortion coming out of this thing!!!), but i also want to put my DAED ds-1 back in for again, more noise options (like i need more noise options-again thanks to RICK W for getting this stuck in my mind even more!!!) thanks.... s---- --001636e0b9b7ab28290482908a97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable does anyone have any experience w/ the digitech gnx3000 or gnx floorboard e= ffects units? 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--001636e0b9b7ab28290482908a97-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 19:50:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63DB43BE92; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pKM+b0U5stocuYfSWDv4o0xXNZh/jA5nrzf/ykVIhs0=; b=fBidCUpRXN9FBxdKIvvWdVVlcEec1iNGZvIZe8Yh+pwis1vzXfZv4vaaaq2eclR+yB o39uQBsKkkkowDoG8lveSFu0FfqyHSsLHHEV/8E3HRN3TvIx+aTxIgdiE2LXEzYKOmIm 1h4qkYTx50fzxBGe01vKaM2ick7qh3ZlrPLBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xGmu1H6vYRhEKE6IoJ//G5L60BCWDSJH88nh9BnqPncvvQlOM1e7nC2U+URvkV8H58 0/7MyU+mgHUrjBySJOGOe/KfN3zbWGXZ1ReeURSFdhHj2KCuy07r6QlbPbms67/JvqTF dkbj22jmjxipqHiGb3447JWVYHOfhWC645kJ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:50:17 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003241250j6c4cfbcel2255d76ad92141d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT:digitech gnx3000 (or gnx floor pedals) ? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:50:19 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > does anyone have any experience w/ the digitech gnx3000 or gnx floorboard > effects units? (good/bad/hate/love?) I had one for a while to test it and write a review (for a Swedish paper magazine) and my impression is that it sounds really good on guitar. Digitech's patented method =E2=80=9CComponent-Based Modeling=E2=80= =9D is to be thanked for that. A very dynamic guitar sound that answers well to the dynamics in your playing. With small speakers it felt very fast and accurate (not the tube or 15" element latency) When changing sound patch the box shuts up for a second when used in "preset mode" - which is horrible! But don't panic - you may run it in a "dual channel mode" with two alternative guitar channels to jump between that doesn't interrupt the sound (like preloading presets in software equivalents to this product). A third mode called "warped channel" you may blend these the two guitar channels into one sound. It has a guitar mono input, a dual tele jack stereo line level input and an XLR mic input with trim pot and phantom power that can not be turned off. If adding a vox mic to the guitar you may mix the vox channel separately to add specific effects other then the guitar patch's. You may mix the output as well and use dual stereo outputs for the guitar, like no speaker sim on the output where you connect a monitor speaker for hour on-stage personal listening but use speaker sim for the output that is targeting the PA system. Oh, it works as a MIDI interface too! If hauling an USB cable to a computer you can plug a MIDI keyboard into the GNX's MIDI IN port to play MIDI synths in the computer. This of cours works with any other piece of gear that supports USB MIDI input, not just computers. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From mr.mohammed2010@sify.com Wed Mar 24 20:12:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.183.89]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 077733BE8C for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13147 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Mar 2010 20:12:21 -0000 Message-ID: <955482.11323.qm@web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uQ0M27wVM1m61sHUIVaAA3uoW17cucApx2e.0t4bqcvRxx2GT.jLnVo9KTC505m3BgHlJCc9Qr3dMeJ3cHMxU35_zVk03_dGn5A8iDoDteLEgglJ2fddNgKA51JNVv5wAzwgw0G_TBBOctqcAdkHjfVlgacKWhGlmkB8HtwOAITQ.q5Zm9R.WwO4YRthuErT8apwUrceDeVLG9KxFhqADrYuFQYVkxWYyB9f43Nf62VZi.FUV4QEY_Ie6NzNl3Y0wt1RxbyRa3UXTuLrWM1LsQTM1TjKL.NteZ75YgrmF8TXfFOvE2YYxVwBQbD7XwN2cedPvAKhda7Sour5zj01Zfc_8HMtnGSDzmhGIU5Nq5xZas1yinbhCoE7ekyStDUG.rB1nnhL..S_SdpgKLaJpz8qf7pC7kujmZhvOD_igKdcwpmtie3OI376Ap16KhZmIYKQUt2SZ5EMQ9YCp3IokaC6y2Jm9XeElBHPtQI2IDE3JDWzjkpARjlLHiuTi1CHUV.fLZg2.5U0.OFERtSCwR0Jh0c6uzBXUqQouQz5SFSeEe_C2jn2FYxCBjvCkY9_0gHKCu41Pz4tb5qpAoX2uIRr6PGB1UNONsfzWitVkh8.fq_2aoQMNTAfLwnVsG6dUJcZNk4X2KOo1rs9HYxCi42fpARHRZjOW.FDE6kKkJwJMlZw8QOCh86YZF3.RvS.sARw64pzl97rIjt5xWVKFsKszUEgSzQHrXc7XKCSvzp7RGpY229ku.dTp3eaJDnalvH8jyXxwkiM.EE6kkf2fGbm5_dd5ejdTTeyJgyF.Ynt2dRTVQlbla2HjkwHBhJ_BCmddf0WFmAtzL1r7QepWR5NsUzZhYz9ei2C5RmG5jd6zx1Y8ykfY51q3q3KGz12mq7lAUHKAGbrJVU0WRpfxuJhvhc8n5CGXNT3Ag5aN63oN1PwFNemW1wjbe9M1usWkBPcLqE3s7W87_2JUfMuGO5ZvqRcpXmqHHxD5JaHXDhkMOOwL4rW4Myf48mYnHEaDkoHhgBV7.G8rXYXA2y22vGL4aFw7GPH6LCeyW1t_IiiHjghbX2bx.PQv4PKMtATqcNw9Ls3r_zyNhjqgBREyJKh2iQrecc29tJjyLAyRR4.NC.UEpd8uCQPImg5q0IAQunHMLsxPDF7EMENXc0oYDQnh1VljwBb18CWwp2nstVHYCIl6fPDEkqBZgM56hEvVZr1QcZUqDnjtCaCYL2uUxRlOaO6GeqQPTpYOIow0fc96.q2Xw_8.ASJRJotJZI5yjS58Ajxbr7Cd.rNnOMTR41r7vJNtGLWC.12p8e4a6puiFAuI4SmjlQ0lPjdvW3WCfHzxNfeRp6SJ83jZycmry1tk30OwjbiREQvrEfWw.XKVVSXVUcZQREleQrZ5R1CuOlf.TzQc3OyHWJIcemp9N_HEJHcMkA1vwz5dB9vI0ljmaZ.vb.0aBv2Aev4XAEFc5y9YiYkJnQmegBckR_lj67W0zGh.ps.yOjHUsRbTkOOLCtNytkFecjFxeymDCQshLeEqndLfneMjqjv6BCs.MJVQvR2HC9.1v46xezAHzXYys8DLs.fzfQk6xtbuWBZYRz0YfKDEcY4R99pxTvq8_6DATo9_ApJBa7h9KLoQmxIhyr7MjZeWYkEIhXwpdfWuEJvm4Lmi6rWKsOBrzvnZogNcqvWKV.YfkvISxnGlAcUd45q_GKb7Jcc3PT4Rm0JHt_Jvq82wIQnc0ostHc1XKiNEFqseIrNCtojmtDjnmPy1rS.CK4sO8mPrUR.OEez._0Yra96N4.qQvkowPc8q5HnXVUVRV2GOIbZbeJ9hSOVtOUCJ6Rn7dF4dgd3jOGQzbEpCAW8S4Zl9u9hYodqeiZ0EuA05UHGSjR1qyEFwWIa53jppc..yOQwxctru_PiCbvq5zFLKBVT52tH7FUY_dnd7PNIPfN1OmPcCIaAiDZ5Y0hbYYc6jmNj6bPASnyv3s99JxDkuBpXnnaXCgja5LrFvjRIV5MPRJHiXSesahtoalG6qDVctR9qikycn9a_iHdwZ3hCtDhgMx2wY.BCXFwP9m41uQadsG41PSe3T.ES.ZeBkspXgXWtW3PNmqfU.DvHEsSuclf.a3TgffQug2xqlueii32wqIflinJyxqOtcw.U5zu4SupoT363Z4Z5K5nq7cfIMSewTeRycJnKIH76JcbV6lVXgtr0Apiidr7wCnpFb8CaT_9I60Pg2zOjcJeJ0Jpx15MipfddKnoB7fIip1O9ODYjwY2EntfvqbOoiQfjjQxowryq8jl..iCcrZJuxEwV6AXxMIdL2YPAvBpv8cHhu5OOyT6vxg6CPEiMDeAvuVHuOhV9ehUGnLKslzzKkmfCuiIdWM5G8hY9TsX6Q5Hto2X0Ry8y4TPtq5LLhxvk54q1RBWvZV27si5PF1nrWv1kYSWorMRDkVxAY8Blir7GdKeTk7v6hLv.MEsCBjy5_ELI1SMKez.UarW28OjzpKE39L5JR.d7C0ZJz6jRMhkZ9zbr_YcKSqqOnMnA3J6_XfGJ7GdAjZP77v5hCInT1WjaWx19uxQGcp8sYb1fmLzHQxL3Z5fAp76FoS.AhVC1dztJhpfRRhupUVzcQ4fSakhGuzKSRjda__aKe7zQpD3mPB5UC3Gtrwn9LczErHwXi5Nh3M3v1eClOO3oLYusvmTeOwkj60PWP4LxKprdRCpI7gquLrGwkZjrAGOrm22QsTx5GdaA07j5ZyahQvHXd1tEckInUUOPqTceZHYsp0Y_xGcYs6slLCbt58L.cuC5uJvRtFC7fg3CJIMAJ3YOb1cA0QAJuZtlnuSOtaFnSH8cgGHqUKCmwN_V20XZ9Edr_25mV_wRWxZ64YqSWwpH2se9cMVzAQ6.1M1moplzS7VZ9DG4cYQBNZ8IYW7AIxpyRxTAYvxmx0tRuDga2xJAAWy1X29OdKMUUrXvZbril8Z32JkpZb4_dQN2Lc5dKhryDGEPpKV10xL2nwNWIvUV7q5Rq_DmZiyrCDOamtEHfPPl6xjVE4hv8Vt_5LbYD0sy939pcXzWsddnBIrbv__HCxRKcrYfPS3CgjSfyN7Vrh.j85nUPsXbxw57iPLLNVE0Jk98TZ9leN4StqiYHXIWgEm46qcRAUXb.bhyGdZ8NBAXYyQgaCOnxVd4m8t5XTv4ORsG62QEDpc80ikk90Bdf4hoyGNqSEwOa9UvvsP3RUGoDS.F0sdlUMZ2EnzDKNlkI4riXkFr4pSpncyokyeu04ldjxFVUvJ32XcBc364N7AD_lMVtE6rNcsFWixmILPIgwjV7AxL9Bxzr6iC18RukNDqN9tX5ECZ9mww0Z7yemE5TXjYnC3q90WLQADyVA7CgQexyPNgKH55khAfIupTvxLiCfGCFuqUlzMLuG6m1nAaIATLTOc0Q.T8Xl5JAJhVIoayYDq83atnBMXKW_IHGB2DdJJiKk30iQjhbLTyC5eMEAhLY6fg3kBqFHZys_bX8lISHeTSiIfdmFrYZ.oAkinY_hXO2N1TrUH1oQrPdM9fEObEVlmw4CJU0W1EnSNrbdCMjOWkRCH8q60i3Mb_fTpUBccqhAdWM1UWYOYT1M.sKUVdr80x.weXvq277NU0nwjLt.hb8oANSu3rZwh4pjh3963W9JRFLt.lTJTfRtxFQZnILMM9my7UlXWtacs.c.UFWz.j0lXYdsJDFMWHQukxGJ0RRTEYDO6ET5TGkrsuH2lSghGEraYC6xQaHAN2fumrcMk809RyX1UAkBpowp48lx4VVrVvyN4Lhx6eokI- Received: from [212.52.148.109] by web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:12:20 PDT X-RocketYMMF: ga89674@y7mail.com X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:12:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mr Mohammed Reply-To: mrmohammed7@voila.fr Subject: Please Very Urgent. To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-591298901-1269461540=:11323" --0-591298901-1269461540=:11323 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From The Desk Of Mr Mohammed. Bill And Exchange Manager Bank Of Africa=20 Ouagadougou-Burkina Faso. Tel.00226 7805 4754. =A0 Dear Friend, =A0 I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittance department = of=A0 BANK OF AFRICA.I am writting to seek your coperation over this busine= ss=A0 deal.In my department, I discovered an abandoned sum of $14million US= D (Fourtheen Million United States Dollars) only, in an account that belong= s to one of our foreign customers who died along with his entire family in = a plane crash that took place in Kenya,East Africa,the Late DR. GEORGE BRUM= LEY,a citizen of Atlanta, United States of America but naturalised in Burki= nafaso, West Africa and contractor with ECOWAS,(ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF WEST = AFRICAN STATES) . =A0 Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next o= f kin to come over and claim his money because it cannot be released unless= somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indi= cated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately, all his supposed next of= kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nobody = behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that I now decide= d to make this business proposal to you and release the money to you via yo= ur foreign bank account as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for = safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and this m= oney Could go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bill. =A0 The Banking law and guideline here stipulate that if such money remained un= claimed after 8 years,the money will be transfered into the Bank's treasury= as unclaimed fund.The request for your assistance and maximum co-operation= as a foreign citizen to stand as the next of kin in this business is occas= ioned by the fact that the deceased customer was a foreigner and a Burkinab= e cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.40 % of this money will be for= you as my foreign partner,in respect to the provision of a foreign account= .5 % will be set aside for expences incured during the business and 55 % wo= uld be for me.There after I will comeover to your country for disbursement = according=A0 to the percentages indicated. Therefore to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arranged,= you must apply first to the bank as the relation or next of kin to=A0 the d= eceased,indicating your claims and wherein the money will be remitted into = your bank account.Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or = email the text of application which you will fill and forward to the office= of the foreign remittance director of the bank of africa. I will not fail = to bring to your notice that this transaction is strictly confidential and = i will use my position in this Bank to effect a hitch free transfer of the = fund.=A0 You should contact me immediately as soon as you receive this lett= er on phone number: 00226 7805 4754. Trusting to hear from you immediately. =A0 Please, visit the website below for more informations about the Plane Crash= and the tragic death of the deceased and his entire family, Late DR. GEORG= E=A0 BRUMLEY.=A0 =A0 http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/07/20/kenya.crash/index.html =A0 Yours Faithfully, Mr Mohammed.=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-591298901-1269461540=:11323 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From The Desk Of Mr Mohammed.
Bill And= Exchange Manager
Bank Of Africa
Ouagadougou-Burkina Faso.
Tel.00= 226 7805 4754.
 
Dear Friend,
 
I am the manager of b= ill and exchange at the foreign remittance department of  BANK OF AFRI= CA.I am writting to seek your coperation over this business  deal.In m= y department, I discovered an abandoned sum of $14million USD (Fourtheen Mi= llion United States Dollars) only, in an account that belongs to one of our= foreign customers who died along with his entire family in a plane crash t= hat took place in Kenya,East Africa,the Late DR. GEORGE BRUMLEY,a citizen o= f Atlanta, United States of America but naturalised in Burkinafaso, West Af= rica and contractor with ECOWAS,(ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF WEST AFRICAN STATES)= .
 
Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because it cann= ot be released unless somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to= the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately, all= his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane = crash leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discov= ery that I now decided to make this business proposal to you and release th= e money to you via your foreign bank account as the next of kin or relation= to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is com= ing for it and this money Could go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bill= .
 
The Banking law and guideline here stipulate that if such mo= ney remained unclaimed after 8 years,the money will be transfered into the = Bank's treasury as unclaimed fund.The request for your assistance and maxim= um co-operation as a foreign citizen to stand as the next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the deceased customer was a f= oreigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.40 % of= this money will be for you as my foreign partner,in respect to the provisi= on of a foreign account.5 % will be set aside for expences incured during t= he business and 55 % would be for me.There after I will comeover to your co= untry for disbursement according  to the percentages indicated.
The= refore to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arranged,you= must apply first to the bank as the relation or next of kin to  the d= eceased,indicating your claims and wherein the money will be remitted into = your bank account.Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or = email the text of application which you will fill and forward to the office= of the foreign remittance director of the bank of africa. I will not fail = to bring to your notice that this transaction is strictly confidential and i will use my position in this Bank to effect a hitch fre= e transfer of the fund.  You should contact me immediately as soon as = you receive this letter on phone number: 00226 7805 4754. Trusting to hear = from you immediately.
 
Please, visit the website below for more= informations about the Plane Crash and the tragic death of the deceased an= d his entire family, Late DR. GEORGE  BRUMLEY.   
http://= www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/07/20/kenya.crash/index.html
 
You= rs Faithfully,
Mr Mohammed.


=0A=0A=0A=0A =   --0-591298901-1269461540=:11323-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 20:56:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D9D03BE98; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rXg7y3OOF4z7Gmzw3uQfelXlpbhRgF0EA/Jtm8SFz9k=; b=ZfaQq/juhfImvoPw2F2dLeAUUdEc9bTyb4YRiLpaZochqbBJMqDIRecQKxwpulNKKC C4+Dmi+Dqiyx4AVWJdyogBdYUS6jd6T44BxeNVABPOtaNYjWzwLlj9C0nhKQumh0Dvc9 yudgDf48L+RH4AaOGd7ZEEJ7hrSH7Hb0yewfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AGueJ3gTL9BJx5cCFIOQT4BsWTJK3c3MyqK3FMe8oZHsZ5BbpXiAXrrNoNOgbC3v3v PhUS9GBxLRHSzfHGM2NvV1aKke6hkAq/1dTD+whHJ44huDGEfH5g3cnhch5WczVvCUcj VhVGZpNZ7AoVbaG5H1GraqH0P/nj+PO/VtUoI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003240926k16c3ccf9l241b13f8f71f368f@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003240926k16c3ccf9l241b13f8f71f368f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:56:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:56:52 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > The M13 looks nice. With a looper on board and all. Any ideas if it > can take two separate mono inputs for parallell effect processing? Hi Per, You can't process the L+R inputs independently. The FX units 1-2-3-4 are always processed serial, or in reverse order 4-3-2-1. In addition to that, you have a stereo FX send/return and the mono looper. So the signal chain options looks as follows: input(s) - FX1 - FX2 - FX3 - FX4 - looper input(s) - looper - FX1 - FX2 - FX3 - FX4 All above combinations + the FX send/return before or after any FX unit -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 20:58:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 205F23BE9E; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=Hb18WdncCyQSYJvjFXeleIDJaP38/bHo5T94NL/6WTQ=; b=kHfhZkPTMa0wx8aSU8hezrwTNV5rv8PDUJud9kdUunRPVjm1qqknaac2HiWF6X5m0X qk95T04hv30D+6DQCOhyP2/um/UkgQtXAPTNjYvKFjqeBUYUHvY2tMLhDBB7eHzXcI15 3qiJzL3m886mcbR8A2cVVVf2eSrBofYooAeZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=jzXgmWrABGsoSTDF6HrJOQBkTy/uN7bV99WXOUccJBkgO2lxFhqqQKNJMyB5MsP5hq ZuHzPuXocJADraN9KnkgCBGMnhZL+SLXAg9n6tAni7C+Aj86QI5nuZa50pxEqvpYwV9k uoBjEff+3lyXL0u8ywvarfVgxQCV+3wryWZyg= From: Worth Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--900694793 Subject: Re: New Loopers Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:01 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:58:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--900694793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What is the best looper for hi-fi vox? ALso, i am looking for one that = includes the ability to add and subtract loops, and then add them back = in later. So far, Boss Ac-50 seems to be the best...ideas? worth On Mar 23, 2010, at 8:31 PM, G wrote: > Hi Walker > If you're only using mono then the new Looperlative LP2 pedal about to > come out looks to beat other looping pedals hands down. >=20 > Personally I'm after a stereo pedal that behaves itself with midi = sync, > uses non-volatile memory cards, along with some other basic features I > want and there's simply nothing out there yet. 2880 and RC-50 are > closest but with many issues, so I'm just waiting. > -- G. >=20 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: New Loopers > From: Walker Argendeli > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:08:19 -0400 >> For several weeks now, I've been getting ready to buy a serious loop = pedal. I've >> been looking around, investigating, and trying to determine which is = right for me.=20 >> I'd like one of the more powerful ones, a la RC-50 or Echoplex. >> I realize that software like Ableton is regularly updated, but I'd = like a pedal. >> The problem is, RC-50 has been out for awhile, yet some basic flaws = remain while >> Boss/Roland completely ignores users. The powerful Echoplex (gibson = digital pro >> plus) was discontinued some years ago. Thus, I'm stuck- what do I = buy? Are there >> any rumblings of new loopers on the horizon, whether that's a boss = rehaul (or even >> firmware update), a new echoplex, or something else? I'd like = something with a lot >> of features (I realize I won't use many of them, but I like to have = them for >> tinkering), but I don't want to be stuck with the limitations of = current ones. >> Granted, if nobody's heard anything, that leaves me with the current = product >> lineup. What's the general consensus: RC-50, echoplex (bought used), = or something >> else? >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Walker >=20 :: Worth :: worthmusic@gmail.com myspace.com/worthmusic A man is someone who first exists; he materializes in the world, = encounters himself and only afterward defines himself. He will only be = what he makes of himself, and now is the only time he can do it. - = Sartre --Apple-Mail-7--900694793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii What = is the best looper for hi-fi vox?  ALso, i am looking for one that = includes the ability to add and subtract loops, and then add them back = in later.  So far, Boss Ac-50 seems to be the = best...ideas?


worth
On = Mar 23, 2010, at 8:31 PM, G wrote:

Hi = Walker
If you're only using mono then the new Looperlative LP2 pedal = about to
come out looks to beat other looping pedals hands = down.

Personally I'm after a stereo pedal that behaves itself = with midi sync,
uses non-volatile memory cards, along with some other = basic features I
want and there's simply nothing out there yet. =   2880 and RC-50 are
closest but with many issues, so I'm = just waiting.
-- G.

To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Subject: New Loopers
From: Walker Argendeli = <heckler0077@bellsouth.net>= ;
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:08:19 -0400
For several weeks now, I've been getting ready to buy a = serious loop pedal.  I've
been looking around, investigating, and trying to = determine which is right for me.
I'd like one of the more powerful ones, a la RC-50 or = Echoplex.
I realize that = software like Ableton is regularly updated, but I'd like a = pedal.
The problem is, RC-50 = has been out for awhile, yet some basic flaws remain = while
Boss/Roland completely = ignores users.  The powerful Echoplex (gibson digital = pro
plus) was discontinued = some years ago.  Thus, I'm stuck- what do I buy?  Are = there
any rumblings of new = loopers on the horizon, whether that's a boss rehaul (or = even
firmware update), a new = echoplex, or something else?  I'd like something with a = lot
of features (I realize I = won't use many of them, but I like to have them = for
tinkering), but I don't = want to be stuck with the limitations of current = ones.
Granted, if nobody's = heard anything, that leaves me with the current = product
lineup.  What's = the general consensus: RC-50, echoplex (bought used), or = something
else?

Thanks,
Walker


:: Worth ::
myspace.com/worthmusic

A man = is someone who first exists; he materializes in the world, encounters = himself and only afterward defines himself. He will only be what he = makes of himself, and now is the only time he can do it. - = Sartre
= --Apple-Mail-7--900694793-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 21:00:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70DA73BEA4; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dno4JMvfADbbj7TU6V11LMfJ4/aFOPEAp1w8mDEkLN4=; b=B972TtAvimZsSwHFeFtFqc9uSwpH15ZSSsXEqRvd83AEut+F4R2VN9hBrGS8vQHjUI 4UYRJUjSkd7lpFEA4TddEAAE6pI1poEqmtZhYA7byD0rFEsKNFxIgQO/pcm2w1ja3qo+ TM1Rup1abk5hGfLYphZs1tRX2wqhjeUTYnWAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=afZVJpbO42OxjZa7pga6WPv4cEFMJgkgKuEi6XFCQFBDygPxwr+DNaRLMZihTEUtEq qRiHpVsA7nPHsr9j91/E120z2UpvHk113O9wQWIHTYteszykOHDXeFzGltZykcG44Zdg LMx9n5hjamtvfwHW0TMHhPbz7GMMUbqXjGAGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003240920g1539514dvcb4b9075d14e1b60@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003240920g1539514dvcb4b9075d14e1b60@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:00:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:00:56 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I heard NiN used two computers for each task in the latest tour > backline. Both synced and fully working, although the backup machines > just not connected to the audio output. If Murphy should hit an > assistant pulls over the PA sound source tap to the backup machine > with no audio loss. Yes, I know ;-) Interesting to see these developments with big acts, they have no real alternative I think or: they have to minimize th risc for failures. Should be nice to tour with them as a sound engineer or technician ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 21:06:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C06D3BEA4; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7flTbgogZt3HRl4UlTz9hLjGTZIYJa3TjwZ1DHDovRU=; b=gG74c1vtkrvL7SjNbGZqJ2bsv1iHutWhngdn2d9OcBFtnBjQ9BfW+G0lV+hqX/ZkE5 lQvmz24KBQTrKwwBxRggFh3NrJKte5CG3YIOfDR7WsoUmgCIW/UNFjTgkh4G/AplzYnS RQD/sEscfePLKaCkMuCI99QqBzQb+bcCAJYoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hfhjqUnPXQTrrN7cogoJhsMDSit5O2cf20g0DtoeOHz+A1K0xoTxTdj828rSM6Iyhw tutJfoWHlbKpba/KZLztrWzGvOF0M9+yTERm777UcyJMBUw4CrAaTluD85ybw3b3Ivui LPBahz3EcMQPCMCVFWKbCYIdDC/oasRr0c+9U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <709637FB44A269489C5957CCBACAE517011F35C2@townsendexch.townsendprint.com> References: <004801cacb6c$7717b7b0$90f13747@tbl01fcf9be917> <709637FB44A269489C5957CCBACAE517011F35C2@townsendexch.townsendprint.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:06:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 (overdub feature request) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:06:36 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Nathan Lang wrote: > If any of you M13 / M9 users feel the same about this please let Line 6 know > so they will address this in the next firmware update! > > Here's the link: > http://line6.com/company/contact/productfeedback/?topic_id=3 Hi Nathan, I has seen your message on the Line 6 forum yesterday, I'll address the feedback 0-100% issue as well. 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Berry From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 21:29:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88B813BE8B; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OUVA22GUOAR+p0tRWFAlHIOTHYB5oWduHG2PoGC0HlM=; b=rISSwfnmC97i/c3ZRZGEM7NyiwOsJcZY27yC8Qf7l3rJVPGhHNTtjzBJlYkS5f36Fx vzDOlY3Nx5kNIRFS2WFju5Ud9T2POtGy+opwBKXznGsD6We/PMqkPvqh8xAhCtkxGUE7 waJRvXGyGp6cC2B/pAwYO/KwzN2T1bmjKB+24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OonuSCN30plZQWjiayPF6BkVU9kQzolxCf1UFoPc6yQVEEXboEhYab62oAB/Lv9fSY eJPJg22a6tPISu4hMtGidec81qAlPJVtJXtPtoHssmHjoIvonaWPi+X0v8UIJ50muI2V EJqBak+BICllWdlQ2LDt503kYYTPO6ZH9y3Zg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e1003240926k16c3ccf9l241b13f8f71f368f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:29:46 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003241429k2a573b9bq26e953c2d74387e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > In addition to that, you have a stereo FX send/return and the mono looper > input(s) - FX1 - FX2 - FX3 - FX4 - looper > input(s) - looper - FX1 - FX2 - FX3 - FX4 > All above combinations + the FX send/return before or after any FX unit I understand that as the 1-2-3-4 effects are inserted as for stereo effects? That would mean if you use compressor and play a Stick, that delivers two separate mono signals, the two signal paths would duck each other over the stereo compressor even if otherwise managed as two mono signals. Correct? Not necessarily a bad thing. > Yes, I know ;-) Interesting to see these developments with big acts, > they have no real alternative I think or: they have to minimize th > risc for failures. Should be nice to tour with them as a sound > engineer or technician ;-) Support act would be more fun! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 21:48:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D07F3BE94; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=significantimagery.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:Importance:X-Identified-User; b=EHtmQTWtCAALIUERUnhMkq/SELptTjOWwmO5hrQyOFWrjq+j2faZsvQ7uPn6voEzdRgIrHm8TvpvK5QB/bPahcj5yrqi1w0a9FbE/hxWWCUvpvRQgremGGULSbqQnyma; From: "Nathan Lang" To: Subject: RE: Line 6 M13 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:48:44 -0500 Message-ID: <709637FB44A269489C5957CCBACAE517011F35C7@townsendexch.townsendprint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcrLlIiM5yWhwJ5QS8+9i8lOnMTpSgABBH0A Importance: Normal X-Identified-User: {1585:box565.bluehost.com:signifi1:significantimagery.com} {sentby:smtp auth 68.70.71.110 authed with nathan@significantimagery.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:48:59 +0000 (UTC) You actually can process two mono inputs independently with different effects using the FX send/return in an interesting configuration. I did this once so that I could use a couple effects slots for my guitar = and a friend used the other two effects slots for his electric violin going = to another amp. Worked great! If I remember right, I think this is how I did it: Guitar -> M13 input -> Guitar Effects (pre FX loop)-> M13 FX Send -> Guitar Amp Violin -> M13 FX Return -> Violin Effects (post FX loop)-> M13 Output -> Violin Amp Of course, one important thing to consider when hooking the M13 up in = this fashion is that only one instrument will make it to the loop recorder if = you plan on using it this way! -Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Sjaak Overgaauw [mailto:tcplugin@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:57 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > The M13 looks nice. With a looper on board and all. Any ideas if it > can take two separate mono inputs for parallell effect processing? Hi Per, You can't process the L+R inputs independently. The FX units 1-2-3-4 are always processed serial, or in reverse order 4-3-2-1. In addition to that, you have a stereo FX send/return and the mono looper. So the signal chain options looks as follows: input(s) - FX1 - FX2 - FX3 - FX4 - looper input(s) - looper - FX1 - FX2 - FX3 - FX4 All above combinations + the FX send/return before or after any FX = unit --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 24 23:17:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D611D3BE7E; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_126947262751872" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:17:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.33.219 X-Originating-Server: ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20100324231707.39AC144B6C@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3pbE7B.A.ogD.01pqLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:17:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_126947262751872 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Helo, Very nice track. The reverb sounds great. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:49:02 +0100 truly, seems you don't need much more than this toy to deliver your usual beauty layering ... 2010/3/24 Sjaak Overgaauw Hi, I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13 today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10 repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :) http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3 -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 last.fm/folkstone57[IMAGE] --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze --_----------=_126947262751872 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Helo,

Very nice track. The reverb sounds great.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raul Bonell"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Line 6 M13
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:49:02 +0100

truly, seems you don't need much more than this toy to deliver your usual b= eauty layering ...
=
2010/3/24 Sjaak Overgaauw <= tcplugin@gmail.com>
=
Hi,
I'm currently testing a M13. Although I normally use a stereo
multi-track looper with much more features, I really enjoyed the M13
today, can't say a bad thing about it. I like the M13 for it's
simplicity and stability, it's plug and play, very intuitive, the
overall sound is good. Still don't know how the feedback control is
working though, but it looks like the loop slowly fading out in 10
repeats even with overdub on 0%. Here's a live improv I quickly
recorded with the M13, 28 second loop, random half speed + reverse
while in overdub mode, nothing special. The M13 output was processed
with a standard Lexicon reverb. Enjoy :)

http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20100323.mp3

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premoni= tionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/=




--
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quin= a i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no pod= ien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "


Raul Bonell at Blogger: = http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com




Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
last.fm/folkstone57

--=20

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DIRECT TEL: +44-702-403-5965 EMAIL: andrewmcelwee@o2.pl NOTE: IF YOU LOSE ANY OF MY CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS, TRY AS MUCH AS YOU CAN TO CALL ME ON THIS 24 HOURS DIRECT OFFICE AND CELL PHONE NUMBER: +44-702-403-5965 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 25 04:47:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 356A43BE85; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 04:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003241429k2a573b9bq26e953c2d74387e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:46:59 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6760E785-7F08-45BD-900C-5FEBAF19E48C@grubmah.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003240926k16c3ccf9l241b13f8f71f368f@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003241429k2a573b9bq26e953c2d74387e3@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 04:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Some of the effects -- unspecified which ones as far as I know -- are = mono effects and will sum the left and right signals. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 25 05:39:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2A193BE84; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 05:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YSDqlueVBNbihyJpeUTvblpGXVRtpPimVFLqIBvbAMI=; b=D7LgHThORnT6CxXAkdfrQeIS1tgeN8FSZzsTGzO++faY9ayGGPplP5eGOks5zKajJ8 qAD6iCdVb3ZShIXN7nD9siVOAt3t2sEdu9HTp5AMnAkpSxBh4IOTNBwTcXGpK39pmea+ wNcoY9z44bzCF6PI5J/ELxEzWZJ6Nn2LHJ4dc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=L59ksGfjvWNPvb87S+B5QdiQFg4vt1BJv+0m9JiDpyNzMR6rXFY/lseENgL0wq6g6V Q1VAS4ZPN41fHU0zUlBZsiy9CA/e4qqptvmxEnffGU/CEbSWXcouiwDsK0Vx4hGf1mHZ p5rWhsMYavF6ojBPPnB+r92yfOlxQqd15bL3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:39:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: kaossilator pro From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fa78ea96f700482997746 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 05:39:17 +0000 (UTC) --0016367fa78ea96f700482997746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anybody? they say it does "realtime overdubing" ... it can control feedback= ? --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016367fa78ea96f700482997746 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anybody? they say it does "realtime overdubing" ... it can contro= l feedback?

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Best Regards, Captain Alex Carr From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 25 07:02:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ADC03BE81; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cC3yOlIhZBjgwt/Bh3a2WfPCr94Ky9Lxh+wR7JLTQFU=; b=l4nv2VzjvszWRwVDpcp6r9hFaRw5bvGBWPVIN+pEl2i1tiFUygzd3y0Rd28YI31iVG PICXtg46sfJ/AeubrfWjuAEtiOz+DZo9YIctHg+QbIgU8U4lbLB23PzUMbeySKVH4cYq 3H/2GPFUUeB5/lgGkhtlb0E4X3Fzr0aA0ERxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rOnX/mGua8kR5m/g5oerWZWmaaRO+PuGDE6yZuyglua45MqITzD9bkJKDIgvOxxO+l 2AOUO3aaNIv+IbT+YAWmGd/jLgwJIPPSJNxIQwVzLl9S7kGa9YHxjS4A/OcMwIC8E2SK TkWLrjHOotpJj4qpz0wLBiA/3MjapuNmGV3tg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004801cacb6c$7717b7b0$90f13747@tbl01fcf9be917> References: <004801cacb6c$7717b7b0$90f13747@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:02:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M13 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5BD4gD.A.uyC.TqwqLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:02:43 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Sjaak, that was beautiful man! I really enjoyed that. Thanks :) > Sjaak said: "overdub set on 0".... so there is an overdub control? > Bill said: =A0"The variable feedback does seem to be somewhat slow to rea= ct" Yes, it has overdub (=3Dfeedback) control, a little different than you would expect. See other email messages for more details about this topic. > I am seriously considering an M9 to replace my aging DL4. I have hardly e= ver > used the looper funtion in it mostly because of the lack of feedback. Imo, the DL4 ($249) is pretty expensive compared to what you get with an M9 ($399) or M13 ($499). With the M13, you can use 4 DL4's (serial). I don't know exaxtly what the functional differences are between the M9 and M13 but Luis Angulo told me the M9 has 3 FX units instead of 4, but it has same effect models. Looper specs are identical too, and the M9 has less dedicated looper switches so it requiers some more tap-dancing so to say ;-) --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 25 12:30:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8779C3BE7E; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=glezewLW2yrXf+LkkqVSwyROEcEamlay4OrJJ3CdIvg=; b=UAWxhhekdc/VZKv+bcoAww891PrmG0HB2E4SRAYQP8KEjnOVamtIZy0mMztybdZyRT ciG1ZvNJqUVrX2N1oo6jOdaNB5q0skaQ8hzypgLGiHtKmJCL6ROIAoFVdsx9wsICEE5X ll9hHJPmmchHLlAmrjAP9PZ7GO/BLC//WGcxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Hc7VS76n56mz0FmOhr4HzYgsjl2i26bnjEoqCw/cG+Av8T+iq4bvOGA0mAJLNhBtv7 E0qhpd+vNbTT8n0yxbpiH+tyl/tPbysqSTjRpDzm9f+DoAy1/AAkiu2K5NmSnSMwPBMM oCs9WYrqk4/2yZsTC3pTfpwsCRAw/inrjmbHM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:30:19 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003250530t6dcfa147q82137ea115673b29@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: kaossilator pro From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:30:20 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > anybody? they say it does "realtime overdubing" ... it can control feedback? I found this page that seems to explain its functions: http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=564 Have not tried it out but it looks exciting to me as I'm interested in that kind of processing, but I stick to the software Numerology plus assorted outboard MIDI controllers. 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344593BE84; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BABBE5B.9000801@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:49:47 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:21:01 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: 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Feel free to re-imbrues yourself when you have the m= oney=20 for any expenses you made during the process of collecting/claiming the Fun= ds on=20 my behalf.=20 =A0 Please If you are willing to help, please reply as soon as=20 possible, Again=A0I will allow you to communicate with the=A0bank were the = fund=20 is=A0directly upon the receipt of your reply=A0because I want this project = to be=20 completed by=A0next month before I=A0die according to the Doctor.=20 =A0 And also attach to me in your return mail your personal=20 details for familiarity, May the good lord bless=20 you. 1. Your Full Names=20 2. Your Age/ Sex=20 3. Your Marital Status=20 4. Your Occupation=20 5. Your Mobile Numbers/Fax=20 6. Your International=20 Passport/Working ID/Driving Lincence. I am waiting for your response.=20 Yours faithfully, Mrs Winnie=20 Jeffries. =0A=0A=0A --0-1699271728-1269587171=:49483 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= I=20 am contacting you believing that you are a honest and trustworthy person. I= =20 believe you will not betray the confidence; I am willing to repose in you, = for=20 me to have contacted you even though we've not met before.=20
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=A0I have decided to= seek your help=20 in carrying out my last=A0wishes, My=A0name is Mrs Winnie=20 Jeffries. I'm a 52 years old woman and=A0 my Country=A0is Oua= gadougou,=20 I was the chairman of "Cocoa marchant farmers", based in the city of=20 "Ouagadougou" the Republic of Burkina Faso,=A0I=A0was =A0also = married=20 with two children.

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=0A=0A=0A=0A   --0-1699271728-1269587171=:49483-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 26 12:50:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB1923BE78; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BACADA2.40307@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:50:42 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #677 for March 25, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:50:46 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100325.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #677 March 25, 2010. RECAP: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Mark Mahoney and Michael Peck. The Featured CD at Midnight was StarFest 2007 by Mark Mahoney and Michael Peck on Waiting World Records. Mark Mahoney and MichaelPeck: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) The Gak Omek Bagudzinishinabe Nonrenormalizability (Blue Cube Music) Radio Massacre The Clockwork Time Time & Motion (Cuneiform) International Dragon Technicolor Travel Silicon Valley Water Gap (none) Agency Remy Velocity EoD (AKH) Viridian Sun Light Years from Infinite In All Directions Here (Hypnos) Steve Roach Merging with Grace * Live at Grace Cathedral (Timeroom Editions) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Mahoney and Peck Initial Launch StarFest 2007 (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck Entering a Forgotten StarFest 2007 (Waiting World) Atmosphere Mahoney and Peck It's Full of Stars StarFest 2007 (Waiting World) Mahoney and Peck From Dark Densities StarFest 2007 (Waiting World) to the Beginning of Light Mahoney and Peck Alien Shore and StarFest 2007 (Waiting World) Unworldly Outpost Mahoney and Peck Pioneer 11 StarFest 2007 (Waiting World) Rudy Adrian Starlight Desert Realms (Lotuspike) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk 4 from Lost in Space on Northern Echo Records. Radio Massacre International: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#apr Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/UTC-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on-line. To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 26 12:53:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2149B3BE7E; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: New video! From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: <4BA3CD64.4020303@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:53:52 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <115CA694-F855-476E-A815-FA86DB13279C@reyn.net> References: <4BA3CD64.4020303@soundscapes.us> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Nv92u-0007sS-Lz X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.132, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_50 0.00, TVD_RCVD_IP 1.93) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:53:57 +0000 (UTC) And another new video from the last sunday's concert! Had lots of fun! = This is the track where we ended our set with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpFrizmXlJPA Enjoy! Cheers, Reyn ___________ www.reyn.net www.reyn.vs.reyn.net management: www.lalalamanagement.nl twitter/facebook/youtube: ReynOuwehand From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 26 14:10:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23BB13BE82; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <27001.72.51.1269612628.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <115CA694-F855-476E-A815-FA86DB13279C@reyn.net> References: <4BA3CD64.4020303@soundscapes.us> <115CA694-F855-476E-A815-FA86DB13279C@reyn.net> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:10:28 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: New video! From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Nice one Reyn. Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Fri, March 26, 2010 8:53 am, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > And another new video from the last sunday's concert! Had lots of fun! > This is the track where we ended our set with. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFrizmXlJPA > > Enjoy! > > Cheers, > > Reyn > > ___________ > www.reyn.net > www.reyn.vs.reyn.net > > management: www.lalalamanagement.nl > twitter/facebook/youtube: ReynOuwehand > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 26 19:06:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 902863BE81; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1316 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:06:13 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=uBssf7DnAAAA:8 a=m2PQbbAWAAAA:8 a=7OihO6WiB1I6sJa81e8A:9 a=5HYZ5afNuvq-m1Ai2nlELJt9UY4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: baub@baub.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:31:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: New video! Message-ID: <4BACFD6F.17767.24C8E77A@baub.baub.com> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <115CA694-F855-476E-A815-FA86DB13279C@reyn.net> References: <4BA3CD64.4020303@soundscapes.us>, <115CA694-F855-476E-A815-FA86DB13279C@reyn.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.51) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: <1zukuD.A.I7F.lWQrLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Oh, yeah, that was awesome! Baub On 26 Mar 2010 at 13:53, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > And another new video from the last sunday's concert! Had lots of fun! This is the track where we ended our set with. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFrizmXlJPA > > Enjoy! > > Cheers, > > Reyn > > ___________ > www.reyn.net > www.reyn.vs.reyn.net > > management: www.lalalamanagement.nl > twitter/facebook/youtube: ReynOuwehand > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 26 20:20:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A36233BE81; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=JoS3sj3aRVu6pWA4/RMUX+j4K/5yEV2mt9M39c6YbU3qyGf1BLMpEUBYv3f5XGW0MKR4e2qmfLJaGRy5yoSCIX0pgiLDFSs9lczoLIkcid9zKL1zC7lmAhbzyO+LOp3BzLSGJfMBOba++jBYljrmCLUXCwVxBLEAV6YZPHSBAp8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1269634827; bh=6BPYPWxF/YF5YvNFD2HUHtfHajrNclH1XKjVtnXAW6c=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=NZ9BuzQmiCPttfkdIgMbS2LOXaZVw51tG7T5rpD5wyeAJPgyHJ4JXMdVFBRPrFoZF1Hb2Uu2NADIac6cHYHLYc3BVlMS3jITENkbLvbMuMiaeYTUXoig0futn5IHgWIsbgx2OtUboDWXSjP4fI/a6O4cAPp4RFSUJuFkA+N6YkE= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: bwl9o.IVM1n_NRAQ6ZVO5La2.Gns0xzBBZtyncYzF3.MQxwxLbjYX5iXdnVm8zQU_Npum16HPjnGdJu4n1O5YE0.Pr2221dvux4ROCjGPxOVmkUq5TZbY2JYCmHo.l0XChPtyvSgtFaOFiPMqVhft07eVBBO9mhIhDTXmoGkJQr4usEIBCql_JJpuCFhv23Z0wMcLDW9jjLs5epqGR68Q8WO8idAAepMnIHxlPGMsg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <012A79F3-9A12-4C09-8D62-D6F319226A13@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--730155021 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Trying something Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:20:20 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <5FKV5.A.DJH.McRrLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:20:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-22--730155021 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi guys - trying this http://cafenoodle.ning.com/?xgi=1hTykAk9f5C8h0 I want to use it to develop an online venue for ustream gigs - if anyone wants to be part of the beta testing that would be great Thanks Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-22--730155021 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hi guys - trying this


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I would be curious to try it out


From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 9:20:20 PM
Subject: Trying something

Hi guys - trying this


I want to use it to develop an online venue for ustream gigs - if anyone wants to be part of the beta testing that would be great 

Thanks

--0-239009649-1269642980=:9027-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 26 22:48:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 352CF3BE84; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=WPAXN1iV+PDcMCwB1/WbQKB6693197hNet2i3SBrroXy7bBMz0kCs783xVy8ZIWAiLpoDjI1uiYICJbFJwtPTQmehUS7gnopI5bRH4E0dRNeUDAMYtPI1opcuZjiucUf51YeJEleMGKfWnKBLuuice66It8tgnYGIYGOzWBQHa8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1269643698; bh=tJ8VN5TFaccv4NkvC+deLZFyQCqVj+dUBf3HlKISBf8=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ZZI0fSwT25EOKBhMBLi3p+zEzYiT7oy/0GUR79SsFf081XisYbZaCgqu+1wXhZm7urhj1NwfUICvulJ3dRRWlQrtH1SdjmGazRCJBAeeJHmicejzaTx5ecBTqbsFGfQNPDWhJeHhz5J5fxVoegKOtcmhPcaF0VzUktdKsO6Mey0= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Qba09awVM1nfeGPPmKunm7VzbzxIG2zwLU2Q2QoR0xDDFBFTxcdQmeLz0BUHihLyHYQv.qp_qNCh87K2Cs8Jftoxe9pGW8POCXav0mb1N_E0vwfZcF53pYY55YfbEq174KCKB_EHkuYu9uFPEJw7H3ZG57BZQZpDSVf.y96k1lSYV3Q.5xU3WKQb5M3tF2FPBrxLoGMpcxcH9VpXfMeQX5wd7kskWZ8OytKO7y1gqSxwLHsQriA3so8j6E9g0vMEW3uaRk6mnSlngA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <343658.9027.qm@web65602.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <012A79F3-9A12-4C09-8D62-D6F319226A13@btinternet.com> <343658.9027.qm@web65602.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24--721283304 Message-Id: <84EB58AC-FF70-4B8B-87AC-F0D67D71A38E@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Trying something Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:48:12 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <7_LwcD.A.zWB.zmTrLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:48:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-24--721283304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Brilliant - the more people involved the better - really want to see if we build something here - could be a great venue for all of us... Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 26 Mar 2010, at 22:36, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > I would be curious to try it out > > > From: Matt Stevens > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 9:20:20 PM > Subject: Trying something > > Hi guys - trying this > > http://cafenoodle.ning.com/?xgi=1hTykAk9f5C8h0 > > I want to use it to develop an online venue for ustream gigs - if > anyone wants to be part of the beta testing that would be great > > Thanks > > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-24--721283304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Brilliant - the more people involved the better - really want to see if = we build something here - could be a great venue for all of = us...

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 26 Mar 2010, = at 22:36, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

I would be curious to = try it out


 Matt = Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com>
 Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Fri, = March 26, 2010 9:20:20 PM
 Trying = something

Hi guys - trying this
I want to use it to = develop an online venue for ustream gigs - if anyone wants to be part of = the beta testing that would be great 
Thanks

=

= --Apple-Mail-24--721283304-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 26 23:49:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A44C33BE82; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:53:59 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100326-0, 27/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Yeah Per Considering functionality they're very cheap compared to the other likely suspects. I just remembered, some of the switches needed to be pushed harder than others which got really annoying. Since I'd already opened it up, I placed a bit of cardboard strategically under the offending switches, and working so well I'd forgotten I'd done it. I figured cardboard is softer than metal or plastic so shouldn't pose a risk when stomping on the pedal, not sure if the cardboard will pick up moisture. Once I've got a stereo looper, and a couple of other FX pedals sorted, I'm thinking of getting the Gordius module. Among other things I like the built in midi sync master with programmable BPM or tap tempo features. Combined with a midi break out box this looks very versatile. -- G. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Berhinger FCB1010 CC Values w/ Ableton Looper =46rom: Per Boysen Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:15:06 +0100 > >Nice story, G! I love and hate those B pedals. On my third one now ;-) > >Greetings from Sweden >Per Boysen > >On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:31 AM, G wrote: >> For what it's worth. >> When I received my FCB brand new, I immediately recalibrated both >> expression pedals. I found the 2nd exp pedal had a "dead spot" at one >> extreme, there was movement but no change in value. >> I forget whether it was toe forward, or heel down. >> After exhausting other possibilities I opened it up and found the exp >> pedal's LED was slightly bent in one direction compared to 1st = pedal's. >> So I gently bent it back into alignment. =A0Fired it up again, >> recalibrated and it works great. >> >> Cheers, >> -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 02:35:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0D663BE7F; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:40:05 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: kaossilator pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100326-0, 27/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <1Pg4PD.A.ZhE.r7WrLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matt Were you using instrument level or line level inputs/outputs with it? Not sure if you know about this, but I've found that mixing line level and instrument level signal quickly runs into these sort of problems. =20 I use a stereo line driver after my effects for this very reason. The K.pro only has line level inputs and outputs, in addition to the microphone input. -- G. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: kaossilator pro =46rom: Matt Davignon Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:29:24 -0700 >I have the Kaoss Pad (KP4?), which is in a very similar package. >The Kaoss Pad has some problems in it. There's a lot of signal noise, >and if you try to boost your volume enough to compensate, you start >getting a distorted signal. 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From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed6d43d185690482c2d3cb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 06:59:56 +0000 (UTC) --001636ed6d43d185690482c2d3cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I just got to use my edp and having problem mangling with my loops. I'm using DL4 before this and i like the 1/2 speed and double speed mangling functions. Can the EDP do the same? Thanx in advance. --001636ed6d43d185690482c2d3cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I just got to use my edp and having problem mangling with my loops. I'm using DL4 before this and i like the 1/2 speed and double speed mangling functions. Can the EDP do the same? Thanx in advance.
--001636ed6d43d185690482c2d3cb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 08:14:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D84053BE84; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 371122273/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.177.72/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.177.72 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As0BAOtarUtPRrFI/2dsb2JhbAAHj0TKTIUBBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,319,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="371122273" Message-ID: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:15:03 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <98XHgC.A.1bB.D6brLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:14:59 +0000 (UTC) do you have the latest loop4 software installed? That's needed for 1/2 speed. andy butler ps, many thanks for the link to Malaysian court music, it's totally unknown here in UK. I'm fascinated to hear it sounding half way between Java and Thailand/Cambodia. halim zainal wrote: > Hi, I just got to use my edp and having problem mangling with my loops. > I'm using DL4 before this and i like the 1/2 speed and double speed > mangling functions. Can the EDP do the same? Thanx in advance. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 08:57:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E689B3BE79; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:57:39 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100327085739.176640@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18aoIZGfiAaMPqYT+t18PGzV5Au0p8vVqCt5Eg0ec 1825BaXZ1WNyZhAyfA11LNGFzkSCo9QUJxDg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: tf2fczd2Pjl+B5wvzTQ2k1w7MTE2NUne X-FuHaFi: 0.65000000000000002 Resent-Message-ID: <26g5AC.A.JBC.HicrLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi Stone > One issue I run into when traveling and wanting to loop out of my home > base is what to run my looper into so I can play/jam. I can recommend 10" active PA speakers from RFC or FCB. For mobile use, check a Taxi (battery-driven). Roland Cubes probably are also fine. Or, you might want to invest into a Bose system... :-) best regards Buzap -- GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From unideai@dawson.nswebhost.com Sat Mar 27 09:27:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from dawson.nswebhost.com (dawson.nswebhost.com [65.254.40.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D72F3BE70 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unideai by dawson.nswebhost.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvSIc-0007lm-U3 for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:27:23 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cancellazione X-PHP-Script: unidea.es/es_es/cancellazione/index.php for 93.158.144.27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:27:22 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dawson.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32500 32501] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dawson.nswebhost.com Ti confermo che la cancellazione alla newsletter è stata effettuata From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 12:25:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6E7C3BE81; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fy91hrziyTbOMSWN7via75Hsi+0H3Bgbf1eL6kquvH8=; b=J1k162KkiRqyEN8vzOy9kEncozJHoi37KvgXUu9j/Y2uSoqmN3uy2nELY9nIM+2YKt TI8KMG+gy7RoORl8pscOvft09QyHWIH1XXCuomZLjG8DKUebrmOscO+xXSbqpAuCy/P8 sXJ0w97kNY0zyc/CJshzUwfKrJRRZy54BnoHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OPTpcYBybvcH+iYLoI9isnp3tvj/BAEhbJn1VHwHfYlwZK/nuN3cl1LvtgyI5ZVT/5 AX9CUTllnUaCExiY1JIX2m+CsinC28ceX9mZrwZyYwi5LqDRIUhxfqaJ4t9heGaDnkTe F46gFM+btr6oBdbLm0JX6WZFHNjk7jeuH02lk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100327085739.176640@gmx.net> References: <148536.85398.qm@web38402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100327085739.176640@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:24:58 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003270524o10bf8215g9f067d5dc13592ed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang iii - experiences and grooves From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:25:00 +0000 (UTC) >> One issue I run into when traveling and wanting to loop out of my home >> base is what to run my looper into so I can play/jam. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Stone > > I can recommend 10" active PA speakers from RFC or FCB. > For mobile use, check a Taxi (battery-driven). Roland Cubes probably are also fine. > Or, you might want to invest into a Bose system... :-) I am happy with using two small Genelec studio monitors, the 8030A model. Two of them goes into a small bag on wheels and you still have space for some more. What I like with the Genelec is that they serve well in different areas, they are also great for mixing and producing music in a studio environment (I actually keep four of them in order to produce surround mixes when needed). I bring two of them to gigs as well to put on stage as my personal local stage monitoring (as on this filmed gig http://bit.ly/c10XhH ). They deliver enough power to do a little bass lacking gig at let's say a living room home concert. However, two small monitors like that is not enough to get a good sound if you create bass lines with your looping. I use an extra sub woofer to check mixes in the studio. I too have been looking into the Bose system but found it not optimal for me because I like to work with stereo as a significant part of the expression. Now, please don't get me wrong because that would sound just gorgeous with two Bose systems set up for stereo! The catch is that I can't see enough well paid gigs in the pipe line to justify the investment. Yet. So I'll stick with my two Genelec's in a bag with wheels, after all it is nice to be portable and keep a low cost profile. If I expand my solo concerts I may rather get a traditional small PA system with two satellites and a sub - for the low cost stereo solution. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 12:36:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E16F53BE7E; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zD1koINjYmqnPD6ukNe7t/yEorkAbVTvhf9ZsClI7qI=; b=NeU0HngREh1A5ioJCKWaZP92sKcvcyJ99uM3J+5vvNh+tFS6Bh/wbwfUvg2HkTWxfl K6gEsfyGz/H8Wam6ZSy+nW+Pb+FfE56DjIo0+oymD5oWjPa5LHOJzfadsqgJwM5prtHV bupSdTc9/u8gkLMadUUF2vSh/TkKr9QfDOfPE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oGpIzSMyTfG9YZ3hn2S9HvBeeVW47qnQ1blndT06zDsR3ihxzpVbrepfAY4WX6IkDw kE1JrZCSae6iHIM0dsbRh/zfCD1FT4cuAkkq5iXmlAyf843h9RHWxfeIwLwxdnvFYC4Y +YVsX2cNInvzQ4SjiG4PXeyfwHsrSDqKVQqgE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:36:32 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003270536o4b517007r67d50522c07d6e83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Malaysian court music ( Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp.) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:36:33 +0000 (UTC) I must have missed that post. Where's the link? Coincidently I was just talking to a guy here in Sweden that had recently discovered that music on location in Malaysia and since then I've been curious about it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, andy butler wrote: > andy butler > ps, many thanks for the link to Malaysian court > music, it's totally unknown here in UK. > I'm fascinated to hear it sounding half way > between Java and Thailand/Cambodia. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 13:51:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61E883BE7E; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:51:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AalEAvFxV3sSTMC1jPoT5zn1Pe5EwdJjgpdBXOSvtyQ=; b=SEqsH13dLrHspnfZ4+9uiUCKTrAvOp774V5HgsS0ddGQdlTzvBNe7Iq2W+kl7h/szn fgNL2okvw6p6vCMcJMP5qgnwdrXA7BP5tx+oCQNn6Rn4cun2kl/GEWwl47k5v2QiUIFN aYA78xxMbvX91y+UW9iaWeQrGsXwa2Yhm1s8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bNzt6jFkHoV7dXhxF0mIfrNTVg1WZtB3P3AgAcZ2Snai3ZHJn00OrGD9RSh1TL+uSI 2tHo2NKXKLm7ZFNa14RGWYHhw+tkdIlDkjnIjhRj7qdfxciFv5NNc0S/YlbKpdxNZUI9 VGmuvml+S2o3tkbRTBafyf8w+D0kpYkUTmMsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:51:05 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d272c741f7900482c89223 Resent-Message-ID: <34KOG.A.VKG.K1grLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:51:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d272c741f7900482c89223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not sure what software is installed inside my edp. I got it from Sean Malone about 2 month ago. I believe he told me it was LoopIV if i'm not mistaken. How do i check it and how to install new apps? Thanx. Actually most Malaysian traditional music was derived from Indonesian and Thailand. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:15 PM, andy butler wrote: > do you have the latest loop4 software installed? > That's needed for 1/2 speed. > > > andy butler > ps, many thanks for the link to Malaysian court > music, it's totally unknown here in UK. > I'm fascinated to hear it sounding half way > between Java and Thailand/Cambodia. > > > halim zainal wrote: > >> Hi, I just got to use my edp and having problem mangling with my loops. >> I'm using DL4 before this and i like the 1/2 speed and double speed mangling >> functions. Can the EDP do the same? Thanx in advance. >> > > --0016e6d272c741f7900482c89223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm not sure what software is installed inside my edp. I got it fr= om Sean Malone about 2 month ago. I believe he told me it was LoopIV if i&#= 39;m not mistaken. How do i check it and how to install new apps? Thanx.
Actually most Malaysian traditional music was derived from Indon= esian and Thailand.=A0

On Sat, Mar 27, = 2010 at 4:15 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
do you have the latest loop4 software insta= lled?
That's needed for 1/2 speed.


andy butler
ps, many thanks for the link to Malaysian court
music, it's totally unknown here in UK.
I'm fascinated to hear it sounding half way
between Java and Thailand/Cambodia.


halim zainal wrote:
Hi, I just got to use my edp and having problem mangling with my loops. I&#= 39;m using DL4 before this and i like the 1/2 speed and double speed mangli= ng functions. Can the EDP do the same? Thanx in advance.


--0016e6d272c741f7900482c89223-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 14:00:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 562EE3BE82; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a2s0/41lONR/U5dvchKetZF8IPCAPI+3SuhrkkuKg7Y=; b=gkZdiZjBQ24dVsXKQxhQxy6utJpa1RdL5hXJSrB0XcnauQ/xwwD3/KbciPu48e6Xr1 QoEPbOr2wyRPtdL4M+BRlALohNjCPcW4MFA0YeOQ1ZiIWeMOw4t4xMSce4GAwS4ecJop QFpZlr8PZznQUE3fogLR//gkewoRRNwOq9TXE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bqc9eQ26x56Rnsepp7IMTRUmSBf1Y22SU5FLKJl+WQJLNJc4c0fG5pDeBMZ6+dELC+ hoj8vr5sardiMcLn0O72TW952V860FIwZXUzjRPTFW0ubKyLAj7shkIYBukFGJBEQa87 HUaQmxzVBW1xtWfWEVUATmD9vtwKIMu/DJlKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003270536o4b517007r67d50522c07d6e83@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e1003270536o4b517007r67d50522c07d6e83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:00:29 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Malaysian court music ( Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp.) From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6481a50dc64c20482c8b3ec Resent-Message-ID: <58950D.A.3XG.-9grLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:00:30 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6481a50dc64c20482c8b3ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You might wanna check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBjEQPqNmws Halimski. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I must have missed that post. Where's the link? > > Coincidently I was just talking to a guy here in Sweden that had > recently discovered that music on location in Malaysia and since then > I've been curious about it. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > andy butler > > ps, many thanks for the link to Malaysian court > > music, it's totally unknown here in UK. > > I'm fascinated to hear it sounding half way > > between Java and Thailand/Cambodia. > > --0016e6481a50dc64c20482c8b3ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You might wanna check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGBjEQPqNmws

Halimski.

On Sat,= Mar 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
I must have missed that post. Where's t= he link?

Coincidently I was just talking to a guy here in Sweden that had
recently discovered that music on location in Malaysia and since then
I've been curious about it.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> andy butler
> ps, many thanks for the link to Malaysian court
> music, it's totally unknown here in UK.
> I'm fascinated to hear it sounding half way
> between Java and Thailand/Cambodia.


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Pirelli Email: r.kings91@live.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 14:28:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F4573BE81; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=alx_tuHogDYmGmY_JW4A:9 a=sa9nCCA9zmvTvgvQ-N77pJL2OYMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <0374DBAB-6271-4D57-A821-286681493F9A@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Malaysian court music Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:28:25 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e1003270536o4b517007r67d50522c07d6e83@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Very nice. On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:00 AM, halim zainal wrote: > You might wanna check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBjEQPqNmws > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 14:31:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09BD33BE7C; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:31:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 477 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:31:31 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0e427b98-c4e5-417e-b1ab-57ee0d425f23_" X-Originating-IP: [80.202.243.237] From: Stephen Isherwood To: Subject: EDP only sees 33 seconds memory Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:23:33 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2010 14:23:33.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[14F82110:01CACDB9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:31:31 +0000 (UTC) --_0e427b98-c4e5-417e-b1ab-57ee0d425f23_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C I have an EDP with Loop 4 v1.1 and 16MB memory. which should result in 198 = secs of loop time detected. It only detects 33 seconds. I have tried putting new memory in which works = on another unit but no change. As far as I can tell all other functionality= is fine. Any ideas? Thanks=2C Stvy =20 _________________________________________________________________ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= --_0e427b98-c4e5-417e-b1ab-57ee0d425f23_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C

I have an EDP with Loop 4 v1.1 and 16MB memory. which should r= esult in 198 secs of loop time detected.

It only detects 33 seconds.= I have tried putting new memory in which works on another unit but no chan= ge. As far as I can tell all other functionality is fine. Any ideas?
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Got a cool Hotmail story?= Tell us now = --_0e427b98-c4e5-417e-b1ab-57ee0d425f23_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 15:03:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CD033BE84; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9ewhqYxsiVvRvxa9lo0KNZapdXBf3pvtwVhGcEait6o=; b=Ccrp2l9Uz+lvzLnPdHd7dKMit/ZcpREte240HIWKz/1TMMiR4QHLhEbVHKtXB42Bwg BZKX5nw/TFHPkf23yA+J4BtYl86O2HotpoxFVPwgesq++H06LlHypK60brKGaGjIY8f2 X3eA5ncPEI0ojpbdaQrpUU8z+EXSCpKT8r22U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ozYtmWVETtxFGSNlsizbq6E8EfLet1NThsi3yUIlFlVl6JR/9wpXZMBzMxrwx4yvwK f0Iizd+rISbuiyHEdCKRE2AqdAM9CLTk7vED+yMEHQjYiGBYTWzDWK0dMIaweV2xx+yO 2YLdSWSkIKEjfz+UIdhR9TKMljSGkj8Rvowl8= Message-ID: <4BAE1E59.2000607@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:03:53 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Reminder: MoinSound Studio Sessions live in 2 hours Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Here's a quick reminder about the MoinSound Studio Sessions - my bi-weekly virtual concert series, going live in about 2 hours (1700 GMT): Streaming URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions Time Link: http://bit.ly/aUAVVF See you there! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 15:47:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A29E3BE7F; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TyFFHccg0WVxN71zcM7WJZ7mDI4TTd593Zl7kiSR9io=; b=da2deO0tv/Hx7IqQvMlSBPCCdSNeqQ280ChWQ8aBm27E5MQBqBYlE9Cy5MaUXBpcir V587c7glTnrFN8YKstdeQ2xivKHUYeUMeXxAuqvadUvO8FaGBgAPnRmW/Ck3LloFAzcP qxvN24PqS7OL2vJrf2+ELUoXkTPmQVydzcIxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HooCm2v4mwXw50ifVZC+V1ap5MmoJExYpCg5Zkx+jM2a0ONvkiJj+ro6/rEsW6/BNi kinME0oKQb84j8wtwyIhIdoDjPFiPcqcZWNq2QmfCgrAj+vjNvR4zqxcpmBQrNrpmz6M 0kaUdwVBa37A+Gy3h7Pxdq5BO/I7Dz1R3cdcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:47:47 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636eee14a9eba530482ca33ec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:47:48 +0000 (UTC) --001636eee14a9eba530482ca33ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I just checked my EDP. When i turned it on, it displays LOOP 4. Which means i can mangle with loops right? But how do i do it? Thanx Halimski. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:51 PM, halim zainal wrote: > I'm not sure what software is installed inside my edp. I got it from Sean > Malone about 2 month ago. I believe he told me it was LoopIV if i'm not > mistaken. How do i check it and how to install new apps? Thanx. > Actually most Malaysian traditional music was derived from Indonesian and > Thailand. > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:15 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> do you have the latest loop4 software installed? >> That's needed for 1/2 speed. >> >> >> andy butler >> ps, many thanks for the link to Malaysian court >> music, it's totally unknown here in UK. >> I'm fascinated to hear it sounding half way >> between Java and Thailand/Cambodia. >> >> >> halim zainal wrote: >> >>> Hi, I just got to use my edp and having problem mangling with my loops. >>> I'm using DL4 before this and i like the 1/2 speed and double speed mangling >>> functions. Can the EDP do the same? Thanx in advance. >>> >> >> > --001636eee14a9eba530482ca33ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, I just checked my EDP. When i turned it on, it displays LOOP 4. Wh= ich means i can mangle with loops right? But how do i do it? Thanx

Halimski.

On Sat, = Mar 27, 2010 at 9:51 PM, halim zainal <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not sure what software is inst= alled inside my edp. I got it from Sean Malone about 2 month ago. I believe= he told me it was LoopIV if i'm not mistaken. How do i check it and ho= w to install new apps? Thanx.
Actually most Malaysian traditional music was derived from Indon= esian and Thailand.=A0

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:15 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.u= k> wrote:
do you have the= latest loop4 software installed?
That's needed for 1/2 speed.


andy butler
ps, many thanks for the link to Malaysian court
music, it's totally unknown here in UK.
I'm fascinated to hear it sounding half way
between Java and Thailand/Cambodia.


halim zainal wrote:
Hi, I just got to use my edp and having problem mangling with my loops. I&#= 39;m using DL4 before this and i like the 1/2 speed and double speed mangli= ng functions. Can the EDP do the same? Thanx in advance.



--001636eee14a9eba530482ca33ec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 15:58:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E1FA3BE82; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TTo33lWXnDIEWZ+ce0zbGQN7RWS6+X7Ppddr0dPvuBk=; b=SRDrWZlKczlRQiXCnj1vtvsxtRqoa2pN8N2Eweg20EKn/f2MGuWJXvBG+MBdlH9y4v CPylpn4t+k66DgzSne+kUBNzOxneGxHyZaJnKYwCl5Bp0Volh96jsZf5ailrMk+FTX4Q /iMlrThZvopNBylhKUCxKcnwGsa1tvvmJv+Vw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AcQoZhyGRPZwJrvqSwa1hiYC3Is2qKy6e9bM5wUAYGp6UyVdAyMXx2p+l8asDfYcMq M2dq97Pk6peDCthwp/gvtB7tDf3+YgPFBAUBBX52DZb2dt6FC/7wNVi8UexqrVOSXjui saCRDFxUzhnWUxRILp7sw+OPtxOxfQxjAixKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:58:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e1003270858s5d9f9698ra167bf0e1cef2ec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:58:51 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:47 PM, halim zainal wrote: > Hi, I just checked my EDP. When i turned it on, it displays LOOP 4. Which > means i can mangle with loops right? But how do i do it? Thanx A bunch of hints: 1. Put it into Overdub Mode and toggle between HalfSpeed and NormalSpeed while feeding it audio input. 2. Use SUS Substitute - either by the Insert Button or as direct call by MIDI (my choice) - to replace cycles of audio in a loop ("real-time slicing"). For a granular sounding mangling you need to start your looping session with an extremely short cycle. Then you my multiply it up to a bar or two. 3. If doing the above, try it out also in an alternative performance mode, like Replace (my choice) or Expert or... The point in doing that is that the knob on the front pane (or a volume pedal connected to the rear jack) can be used to set up how much of the old loop layer will be replaced by each Substitute command. 4. Run your loop in Overdub Mode with feedback set to full. Make some noise into the audio input while juggling the feedback pedal. This creates "volume scratches" in the backup layers behind your latest layer. A nice way to create poly rhythm. 5. While in Overdub mode, kick the Reverse pedal while making sound into the audio input. 6. Experiment with alternative endings of actions. Examples: Ending Record with Reverse/Speed, ending Multiply with Record, ending Multiply with Overdub... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 16:15:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAF853BE82; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JEy1znJKyjf0hzNFKhSb4c+UqjHiWJV6jE3j0Gz9+4k=; b=rGldn1TK1Mq9rwnwsA3KNSBZVdr3Rz6rjzPHCyYIY6X1eHjbQCYUj7wECT2vfCSAah 1HvLCjgohHT3eIt0V7Y9On/f5CJ8rlgEzLw5WZYL/LxonitWTN0kT1pc0HqMbBCCGj7Q nqtqF38sBo14bUq+xOMN8WeuQj0XjpJkV8hVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nJvsIi93IN16ZQQNmvPyTDOzgMbyHfRMr2LkdmBxSfFb/bmFdQyGA39krd9123X+xd qZlsDwwF8wzkzel3fpcpVN/iQEXQqH5yWzXdrBR3GBFKSVN1WEha5Z7stUpNCEb99AoJ HXk4t2pI11jlUXGIxJVBGQhZQPrazVsSHSygA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e1003270858s5d9f9698ra167bf0e1cef2ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003270858s5d9f9698ra167bf0e1cef2ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:15:32 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6498a5cdb51e30482ca969d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:15:33 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6498a5cdb51e30482ca969d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Thanx for the really good tips. I'm sorry I'm a noob with the EDP. Basically i'm running from Guitar > Pedal FX rig > EDP > Amp. And the original footpedal i plug it into the rear footpedal input no MIDI's involved. Replace? Expert? is it the LOOP 4 software apps? I found the reverse function but can't seem to find 1/2 speed and double speed functions. Thanx. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:47 PM, halim zainal > wrote: > > Hi, I just checked my EDP. When i turned it on, it displays LOOP 4. Which > > means i can mangle with loops right? But how do i do it? Thanx > > A bunch of hints: > 1. Put it into Overdub Mode and toggle between HalfSpeed and > NormalSpeed while feeding it audio input. > 2. Use SUS Substitute - either by the Insert Button or as direct call > by MIDI (my choice) - to replace cycles of audio in a loop ("real-time > slicing"). For a granular sounding mangling you need to start your > looping session with an extremely short cycle. Then you my multiply it > up to a bar or two. > 3. If doing the above, try it out also in an alternative performance > mode, like Replace (my choice) or Expert or... The point in doing that > is that the knob on the front pane (or a volume pedal connected to the > rear jack) can be used to set up how much of the old loop layer will > be replaced by each Substitute command. > 4. Run your loop in Overdub Mode with feedback set to full. Make some > noise into the audio input while juggling the feedback pedal. This > creates "volume scratches" in the backup layers behind your latest > layer. A nice way to create poly rhythm. > 5. While in Overdub mode, kick the Reverse pedal while making sound > into the audio input. > 6. Experiment with alternative endings of actions. Examples: Ending > Record with Reverse/Speed, ending Multiply with Record, ending > Multiply with Overdub... > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --0016e6498a5cdb51e30482ca969d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Thanx for the really good tips. I'm sorry I'm a noob with the E= DP. Basically i'm running from Guitar > Pedal FX rig > EDP > A= mp. And the original footpedal i plug it into the rear footpedal input no M= IDI's involved. Replace? Expert? is it the LOOP 4 software apps? I foun= d the reverse function but can't seem to find 1/2 speed and double spee= d functions. Thanx.
=A0
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:47 PM, halim zainal <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I just checked my EDP. When i turned it on, it displays LOOP 4. Wh= ich
> means i can mangle with loops right? But how do i do it? Thanx

A bunch of hints:
1. Put it into Overdub Mode and toggle between HalfSpeed and
NormalSpeed while feeding it audio input.
2. Use SUS Substitute - either by the Insert Button or as direct call
by MIDI (my choice) - to replace cycles of audio in a loop ("real-time=
slicing"). For a granular sounding mangling you need to start your
looping session with an extremely short cycle. Then you my multiply it
up to a bar or two.
3. If doing the above, try it out also in an alternative performance
mode, like Replace (my choice) or Expert or... The point in doing that
is that the knob on the front pane (or a volume pedal connected to the
rear jack) can be used to set up how much of the old loop layer will
be replaced by each Substitute command.
4. Run your loop in Overdub Mode with feedback set to full. Make some
noise into the audio input while juggling the feedback pedal. This
creates "volume scratches" in the backup layers behind your lates= t
layer. A nice way to create poly rhythm.
5. While in Overdub mode, kick the Reverse pedal while making sound
into the audio input.
6. Experiment with alternative endings of actions. Examples: Ending
Record with Reverse/Speed, ending Multiply with Record, ending
Multiply with Overdub...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


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<4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003270858s5d9f9698ra167bf0e1cef2ec@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003270921k56cfcb0ap5fca25c18ee6f3d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:45:35 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd355f04902680482cb0285 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:45:35 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd355f04902680482cb0285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess it's not as easy as the DL4 tho. From the DL4 i can just step on the 1/2 speed button to make everything go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do wonders more than the DL4. I'm still learning to understang the EDP unit. Thanx for your awesome feedbacks. Halimski. ps:- where can i find the user manual on how to use the EDP? On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, halim zainal > wrote: > > 1/2 speed and double speed functions > > When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one > octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The > outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at > Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed" > (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with > that name, but if the function is still available) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --000e0cd355f04902680482cb0285 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I guess it's not as easy as the DL4 tho. From the DL4 i can just s= tep on the 1/2 speed button to make everything go fast. I'm pretty sure= EDP can do wonders more than the DL4. I'm still learning to understang= the EDP unit. Thanx for your awesome feedbacks.=A0

    Halimski.
    ps:- where can i find the use= r manual on how to use the EDP?


    --000e0cd355f04902680482cb0285-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 17:06:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F59D3BE7F; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VtwdCoD8TdzeAKTeEWNohseuxYT903obNXXLReQnAiw=; b=C4W3sSDTP5h+WJfPbmOB6xnqV6pQ/WMjlyq5VGnaglZsRnnAH2IfOlsWOq2AFQBD+x Z9a1LI6Lo7hMQVGl31mhsSaFIc+g8Fk8n8/2eOkQlBNqnoAh+z0AeMPOzbo3nOAJGzAO M6ikqmFQp58ssF18A+HYfbaXYxIphrOXqTACY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nMO8/7W9Se4XMiFCz01zSgUQcVv3qgYreitehPU+KwRjrT/madz6M+1sTCh35pM214 /K03a08WCSH7XhYwFP+ntK50ZI5kRk72uZ5Z2tMJg9ZQsqgr3Qgj8su0OjFPxNTD1+6v C0oyib8To5VrZCVHiVmWiFVzD++BzjbOneLOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003270858s5d9f9698ra167bf0e1cef2ec@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003270921k56cfcb0ap5fca25c18ee6f3d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:06:27 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a91003271006j6f7ce548qcb53b586c8b5f753@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed66eef406570482cb4c92 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:06:29 +0000 (UTC) --001636ed66eef406570482cb4c92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's a link to the manual: http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf Sylvain On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, halim zainal wrote: > I guess it's not as easy as the DL4 tho. From the DL4 i can just step on > the 1/2 speed button to make everything go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do > wonders more than the DL4. I'm still learning to understang the EDP unit. > Thanx for your awesome feedbacks. > > Halimski. > ps:- where can i find the user manual on how to use the EDP? > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, halim zainal >> wrote: >> > 1/2 speed and double speed functions >> >> When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one >> octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The >> outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at >> Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed" >> (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with >> that name, but if the function is still available) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> > --001636ed66eef406570482cb4c92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a link to the manual:
    On Sun,= Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5= :15 PM, halim zainal <halimzain= al@gmail.com> wrote:
    > 1/2 speed and double speed functions

    When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one
    octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The
    outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at
    Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed&= quot;
    (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with
    that name, but if the function is still available)

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se
    www.perboysen.com

    • Sylvain

    On= Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, halim zainal <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrot= e:
    I guess it's not as easy as the DL= 4 tho. From the DL4 i can just step on the 1/2 speed button to make everyth= ing go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do wonders more than the DL4. I= 9;m still learning to understang the EDP unit. Thanx for your awesome feedb= acks.=A0

    Halimski.
    ps:- where can i find the use= r manual on how to use the EDP?

    =
    On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, halim = zainal <halim= zainal@gmail.com> wrote:
    > 1/2 speed and double speed functions

    When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one
    octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The
    outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at
    Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed&= quot;
    (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with
    that name, but if the function is still available)

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se
    www.perboysen.com



    --001636ed66eef406570482cb4c92-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 17:47:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D69B53BE81; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1824 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:47:59 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.6 X-EN-IMPSID: yHGY1d00107rVmq0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:16:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: EDP only sees 33 seconds memory In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20100327174759.870913BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Sounds like More Loops is set to 6 (6 * 33 = 198)? At 2010.03.27 07:23 AM, Stephen Isherwood wrote: >Hi, > >I have an EDP with Loop 4 v1.1 and 16MB memory. which should result >in 198 secs of loop time detected. > >It only detects 33 seconds. I have tried putting new memory in which >works on another unit but no change. As far as I can tell all other >functionality is fine. Any ideas? > >Thanks, > >Stvy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 19:06:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9626D3BE7E; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4BAE5735.3020706@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:06:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Chez Mosc Today + Special Guest Dave Sneed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Greetings EM Fans, This is to remind you that the weekly webcast called Chez Mosc will take to the air again today. Each Saturday at 6:00 pm EDT (GMT-4), Twyndyllyngs (Howard Moscovitz and Bill Fox) will stream a live, improvised concert from Howard's living room. (Hence the title of the broadcast.) On today's show, we welcome Dave Sneed who will help us make some noise. I hope that you'll "tune in" despite the irreparable brain damage it may cause you. ;-) Point your favorite browser to http://radio.electro-music.com and click on the Tune In link. Or you may stuff http://radio.electro-music.com/listen.m3u into your favorite music player. The radio page also has links to a chat room, the electro-music forum, and more. The radio schedule is listed and has links to each individual program. May peace and contentment be yours. Cheers, Bill Fox P.S. If you are living in or near the Lehigh Valley or plan to be passing through the area, please let me or Howard know if you'd care to join us for a broadcast. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 19:28:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B64AB3BE7F; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 368471709/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.177.72/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.177.72 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At0BAFr5rUtPRrFI/2dsb2JhbAAHj0HKQ4UBBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,320,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="368471709" Message-ID: <4BAE5C67.40307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:28:39 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:28:35 +0000 (UTC) halim zainal wrote: > I'm not sure but now you are ;-) for 1/2 speed, you'll need a midi controller. OR Set InsertMode=HSP then the Insert button will 1/2 the speed. Per's assuming you have a midi controller, so his post is confusing. the manual for the Gibson unit is the same :- http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html >How do i check it and how to install new apps? Thanx. > Actually most Malaysian traditional music was derived from Indonesian > and Thailand. yes, that's clearly audible in the court music, it sounds somewhere between the music of those 2 locations. Are there CDs available do you know? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 27 19:30:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 213B73BE7F; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=UwFzsgCOu+aB3R/5wzN1fY6zwxRMfh81FXbAEmMsmRw=; b=IEuznDMMt/LBciomSmLDJpJlHN8iAFEf64CQ5fEiSKixUOoW3E/li+EnOL+hxrEl58 J6qeHWKqpyNCdBVABn3Dux9dFGd+tc9khUi/H1aNbwXQczkBMRRa81EQHUEJw7uwKDec bxkktxF4aPzA9dDmvITDw4G7j6JcoEf9Qc+RA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=qvZkp3ullfO/LBQ6xa4jGV/rrYcWRQ8Bya8UD7iH/lG2F/OuXbRk+t1cHsXXTLwc9z /5k9v8qw0g0ks/VHK241AJM+Uuvr2ELyqIq2mC/b2S6kj98fkJjjvy4RqzabsKLf55G1 7nKCJn5nrNezYwkBOXMcQMdZ2lhzUYgiRpjGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <2871c3a91003271006j6f7ce548qcb53b586c8b5f753@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BADBE87.3010709@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e1003270858s5d9f9698ra167bf0e1cef2ec@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e1003270921k56cfcb0ap5fca25c18ee6f3d1@mail.gmail.com> <2871c3a91003271006j6f7ce548qcb53b586c8b5f753@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:30:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cb6ed0f9869dd73d Message-ID: <9ab0c76f1003271230g3e05d549vc17584939385a124@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how to mangle with the loops on my oberheim edp. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f8fe776904c7e0482cd51ec Resent-Message-ID: <768t7B.A.19F.wzlrLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:30:57 +0000 (UTC) --00c09f8fe776904c7e0482cd51ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow.. no wonder you are having trouble.. the edp,without the manual... Please excuse the caps, but ... PRINT IT OUT!!!! Funny how you are refering to apps inside the edp.. its not a phone you know...??? Although its does almost everything else! To cut a long story short. In addition to the things you can see on the front panel, there are lots of things a bit hidden. Insert for example has many uses, and changes its use depending on how you have set it to respond. Try using Insert., now stop... go into the insert funtion (thats three presses of the Parameter button, THEN press Ins/Rev (why is the button called that anyone???) And then you can cycle thru the different settings of Insert. Pick a new one.. . not exit editting mode (a long press of the parameter button) and try again with Insert. This way you will learn all the different inserts.. and maybe come across the illusive half speed function!!! As Per says, its much better to get a midi pedal (or keyboard or drum machine) and access all these lovely functions directly rather than menu hopping.. Or at least you should learn how to SAVE your favorite combos of settings to a PRESET... then you can jump between different shades of weirdness... Mark On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Here's a link to the manual: > > http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf > > > > Sylvain > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, halim zainal wrote: > >> I guess it's not as easy as the DL4 tho. From the DL4 i can just step on >> the 1/2 speed button to make everything go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do >> wonders more than the DL4. I'm still learning to understang the EDP unit. >> Thanx for your awesome feedbacks. >> >> Halimski. >> ps:- where can i find the user manual on how to use the EDP? >> >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, halim zainal >>> wrote: >>> > 1/2 speed and double speed functions >>> >>> When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one >>> octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The >>> outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at >>> Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed" >>> (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with >>> that name, but if the function is still available) >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> >>> >> > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00c09f8fe776904c7e0482cd51ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow.. no wonder you are having trouble.. the edp,without the manual... Plea= se excuse the caps, but ... PRINT IT OUT!!!!

    Funny how you are refer= ing to apps inside the edp.. its not a phone you know...??? Although its do= es almost everything else!

    To cut a long story short. In addition to the things you can see on the= front panel, there are lots of things a bit hidden.
    Insert for example = has many uses, and changes its use depending on how you have set it to resp= ond. Try using Insert., now stop... go into the insert funtion (thats three= presses of the Parameter button, THEN press Ins/Rev (why is the button cal= led that anyone???) And then you can cycle thru the different settings of I= nsert. Pick a new one.. . not exit editting mode (a long press of the param= eter button) and try again with Insert.

    This way you will learn all the different inserts.. and maybe come acro= ss the illusive half speed function!!!

    As Per says, its much better = to get a midi pedal (or keyboard or drum machine) and access all these love= ly functions directly rather than menu hopping.. Or at least you should lea= rn how to SAVE your favorite combos of settings to a PRESET... then you can= jump between different shades of weirdness...


    Mark



    On Sat, Mar 27, 2010= at 6:06 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
    <= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border= -left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Here's a link to the manual:


    Sy= lvain


    On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, halim zainal <halimzainal@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
    I guess it&#= 39;s not as easy as the DL4 tho. From the DL4 i can just step on the 1/2 sp= eed button to make everything go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do wonde= rs more than the DL4. I'm still learning to understang the EDP unit. Th= anx for your awesome feedbacks.=A0

    Halimski.
    ps:- where can i find the use= r manual on how to use the EDP?

    On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gm= ail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, Mar = 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, halim zainal <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
    > 1/2 speed and double speed functions

    When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one
    octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The
    outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at
    Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed&= quot;
    (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with
    that name, but if the function is still available)

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se
    www.perboysen.com






    --
    www.markfrancombe.com
    www.ordoabkhao.com
    http://vimeo.com/user825094
    http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
    http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
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From: halim zainal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e7c9fc670f5c0482ce48e9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:39:58 +0000 (UTC) --001485e7c9fc670f5c0482ce48e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Haha my bad. Printing it out now. Wow your description makes much sense now. Thanx a million guys. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:30 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Wow.. no wonder you are having trouble.. the edp,without the manual... > Please excuse the caps, but ... PRINT IT OUT!!!! > > Funny how you are refering to apps inside the edp.. its not a phone you > know...??? Although its does almost everything else! > > To cut a long story short. In addition to the things you can see on the > front panel, there are lots of things a bit hidden. > Insert for example has many uses, and changes its use depending on how you > have set it to respond. Try using Insert., now stop... go into the insert > funtion (thats three presses of the Parameter button, THEN press Ins/Rev > (why is the button called that anyone???) And then you can cycle thru the > different settings of Insert. Pick a new one.. . not exit editting mode (a > long press of the parameter button) and try again with Insert. > > This way you will learn all the different inserts.. and maybe come across > the illusive half speed function!!! > > As Per says, its much better to get a midi pedal (or keyboard or drum > machine) and access all these lovely functions directly rather than menu > hopping.. Or at least you should learn how to SAVE your favorite combos of > settings to a PRESET... then you can jump between different shades of > weirdness... > > > Mark > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Sylvain Poitras < > sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here's a link to the manual: >> >> http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf >> >> Sylvain >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, halim zainal wrote: >> >>> I guess it's not as easy as the DL4 tho. From the DL4 i can just step on >>> the 1/2 speed button to make everything go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do >>> wonders more than the DL4. I'm still learning to understang the EDP unit. >>> Thanx for your awesome feedbacks. >>> >>> Halimski. >>> ps:- where can i find the user manual on how to use the EDP? >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, halim zainal >>>> wrote: >>>> > 1/2 speed and double speed functions >>>> >>>> When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one >>>> octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The >>>> outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at >>>> Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed" >>>> (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with >>>> that name, but if the function is still available) >>>> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.boysen.se >>>> www.perboysen.com >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > --001485e7c9fc670f5c0482ce48e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Haha my bad. Printing it out now. Wow your description makes much sense now= . Thanx a million guys.

    On Sun, Mar 28, 2= 010 at 3:30 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
    Wow.. no wonder you are having trouble.. th= e edp,without the manual... Please excuse the caps, but ... PRINT IT OUT!!!= !

    Funny how you are refering to apps inside the edp.. its not a phone you= know...??? Although its does almost everything else!

    To cut a long story short. In addition to the things you can see on the= front panel, there are lots of things a bit hidden.
    Insert for example = has many uses, and changes its use depending on how you have set it to resp= ond. Try using Insert., now stop... go into the insert funtion (thats three= presses of the Parameter button, THEN press Ins/Rev (why is the button cal= led that anyone???) And then you can cycle thru the different settings of I= nsert. Pick a new one.. . not exit editting mode (a long press of the param= eter button) and try again with Insert.

    This way you will learn all the different inserts.. and maybe come acro= ss the illusive half speed function!!!

    As Per says, its much better = to get a midi pedal (or keyboard or drum machine) and access all these love= ly functions directly rather than menu hopping.. Or at least you should lea= rn how to SAVE your favorite combos of settings to a PRESET... then you can= jump between different shades of weirdness...


    Mark




    On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Sylvain Poitras <<= a href=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sylvain.trom= bone@gmail.com> wrote:
    Here's a link to the manual:


    Sylvain


    On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, halim zainal <halimzainal@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
    I guess it's n= ot as easy as the DL4 tho. From the DL4 i can just step on the 1/2 speed bu= tton to make everything go fast. I'm pretty sure EDP can do wonders mor= e than the DL4. I'm still learning to understang the EDP unit. Thanx fo= r your awesome feedbacks.=A0

    Halimski.
    ps:- where can i find the use= r manual on how to use the EDP?

    On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
    On Sat, Mar 27, 20= 10 at 5:15 PM, halim zainal <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
    > 1/2 speed and double speed functions

    When I had an EDP I used the command Speed instead. It jumps one
    octave up or down and changes the tempo to half or the double. The
    outcome depends on where you are at when giving the command. If at
    Normal Speed it goes HalfSpeed. If at HalfSpeed it goes "double speed&= quot;
    (using quotation marks because there isn't actually a command with
    that name, but if the function is still available)

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se
    www.perboysen.com






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