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From The Desk of Mr.Hassan Musa

African Development Bank(ADB)
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Dear Friend,

I am Mr.Hassan Musa,from Burkina f= aso in West Africa.I got your e-mail contacts from computerised datas after= my extensive search via the website for a God-fearing and trust-worthy per= son to bestow this transaction which is the only hope of our survival= into his or her hands.When i got your address,I prayed and meditated ferve= ntly over it and i commited it into the hands of God that you should be the= rightful person to help us out before I made up my decision to contact you= ..I am The Manager of Auditing Department of Our Bank ,Ouagadougou Burkina F= aso.
In my department we discovered an abandoned usd$15M( fifteen= Million United States Dollars). In an account that belongs to = this our foreign customer who died along with his wife and and children in = the plane crash.Since we got information about his death, we have been expe= cting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless somebody applies for it as the next of kin or rel= ation to the deceased, as indicated in our banking guidelines but unfortuna= tely we learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside= with him in the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim.It is ther= efore upon this discovery that I decided to make this business proposals to= you and release the money to you as next of kin or relation to the decease= d for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it beca= use I don't want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed Bill.=
The request of foreigner in this transaction is necessary becaus= e our late customer was a foreigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of= kin to a foreigner,I agree that 30% of this money will be for you as forei= gner partner in respect to the provision of a foreign account. 10% will be = set aside for expenses incurred during the business and 60% would be for me , after which I shall visit your country for disbursement according= to the percentages indicated.
Therefore to enable the immediate = transfer of this fund to you as i have arranged,you will furnished me with = a good receiving account details where the money will betransfered,your pri= vate tel and fax number for easy communication.
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Please I would like= you you keep this transaction confidential and as a top secret as you may = wish to know that I am a senior Bank official.

Trusting to hear from you immediately.
Yours Sincerely,
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Homepage. --0-1799136590-1260894377=:38705-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 19:35:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBD103BE8C; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_160c8cff-fb95-4497-8caa-41bc41d38d64_" X-Originating-IP: [94.72.202.12] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: I just made some requests for Line 6 M9 updates Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:34:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <22840.65.48.1260894066.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com>,<95788E8C-67E8-4B55-8DA8-2E122E7ACA4F@gmail.com>,<3fa302e30912100949wb58a6f5r7e17bb430a6dd5ad@mail.gmail.com>,,<4B229336.4050206@tiscali.co.uk>,<20091212005424.2E9BB1528C@ns4.tnt21.com>,<5EA14BF803284CB8A28DB024BBD874E6@ELUK1>,<53EB8A15-0AB9-4CF9-884C-C687766E38E3@gmail.com>,<4B262462.8040101@tiscali.co.uk>,,<22840.65.48.1260894066.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2009 19:34:59.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0290650:01CA7DBD] Resent-Message-ID: <5Uz12B.A.IeH.kT-JLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:35:00 +0000 (UTC) --_160c8cff-fb95-4497-8caa-41bc41d38d64_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 =20 thanks for adding the groundswell for this feature... =20 im quite a terrier when i get going for this kind of doable change. =20 i have gone back and outlined my lpans even more comprehensivly ... =20 hopefully all it will take is a line6 bod with a bit of time and interest o= t go..." gee we COULD do that...why not" =20 well we can hope =20 Phill =20 > Date: Tue=2C 15 Dec 2009 12:21:06 -0400 > Subject: Re: I just made some requests for Line 6 M9 updates > From: andre@andredonawa.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi Phil=2C >=20 > I just got my m9 last month and I'm truly in love with it. > So many great sounds in so little real estate and very easy to tweak. >=20 > If there's a way to get multiply and feedback functions from this pedal > I'm all for it. >=20 > Those are the feature I miss the most from my echoplex days. > I've added my post to the line6 forum. >=20 > Andre >=20 > http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa >=20 >=20 > On Mon=2C December 14=2C 2009 7:56 am=2C phillip wilson wrote: > > > > Hi all=2C > > > > I dont know how many of you=2C if any use or own the Line 6 M9=2C I hav= e just > > got mine to begin developing a set that I am capable of perfroming at n= ew > > years loopstock on it ( I could never afford to bring my 3 echoplexs pl= us > > stupid amounts of fx to the states!!) > > > > the M9 is simply stunning as a technological feat=2C to put so many top > > quality sounds in one small box and then nail a useable looper too is j= ust > > magnificent. > > > > however as the kind of person I am=2C I do see a few things that Im sur= e the > > M9 is capable of but isnt yet doing=2C on of which is variable feedback= and > > the other is kind of a Multiply command by using one of the delay model= s > > as a "delay hold" style sub looper to get a short rhythem going before > > engaging the main looper for recording this short sub loop AND longer > > passages such as your main chords. > > > > the thread is here... > > > > http://line6.com/community/thread/24588 > > > > > > I am REALLY keen on getting this update made=2C Line 6 support their > > products fantastically and marketing wise if they could do this=2C they > > would be the first cheap floorbased looper to do so and Im sure it woul= d > > earnthem prise amongst us > > > > I would love anyone who is on the Line 6 forums and feels they can supp= ort > > this cause to add their agreement to my post to try and get it more > > attention by the development team over there. > > > > I will be brutally honest and ask you kindly to just support or not > > support my currant idea and not ask for more/similar etc..the reason be= in > > that I am 99.9% sure what I am asking for is achievable within the curr= ant > > DSP where as other ideas while nice may end up moving out of the relms = of > > the possible and make the tech team over at line6 not want to attempt > > this. > > > > Thanks > > > > Phill Wilson > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access > > both > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_160c8cff-fb95-4497-8caa-41bc41d38d64_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi
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thanks for adding the groundswell for this feature...
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im quite a terrier when i get going for this kind of doable change.
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i have gone =3Bback and outlined my lpans even more comprehensivly ...<= BR> =3B
hopefully all it will take is a line6 bod with a bit of time and interest o= t go..." gee we COULD do that...why not"
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well we can hope
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Phill
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>=3B Date: Tue=2C 15 Dec 2009 12:21:06 -0400
>= =3B Subject: Re: I just made some requests for Line 6 M9 updates
>=3B = From: andre@andredonawa.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om
>=3B
>=3B Hi Phil=2C
>=3B
>=3B I just got my m9 la= st month and I'm truly in love with it.
>=3B So many great sounds in s= o little real estate and very easy to tweak.
>=3B
>=3B If there'= s a way to get multiply and feedback functions from this pedal
>=3B I'= m all for it.
>=3B
>=3B Those are the feature I miss the most fr= om my echoplex days.
>=3B I've added my post to the line6 forum.
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>=3B Andre
>=3B
>=3B http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa>=3B http://www.andredonawa.com
>=3B http://cdbaby.com/all/andredo= nawa
>=3B http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
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= >=3B On Mon=2C December 14=2C 2009 7:56 am=2C phillip wilson wrote:
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>=3B >=3B Hi all=2C
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I = dont know how many of you=2C if any use or own the Line 6 M9=2C I have just=
>=3B >=3B got mine to begin developing a set that I am capable of p= erfroming at new
>=3B >=3B years loopstock on it ( I could never aff= ord to bring my 3 echoplexs plus
>=3B >=3B stupid amounts of fx to t= he states!!)
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B the M9 is simply stunning as= a technological feat=2C to put so many top
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>=3B >= =3B magnificent.
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>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B the thread is here...
>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B http://line6.com/community/thread/24588
>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I am REALLY keen on getting th= is update made=2C Line 6 support their
>=3B >=3B products fantastica= lly and marketing wise if they could do this=2C they
>=3B >=3B would= be the first cheap floorbased looper to do so and Im sure it would
>= =3B >=3B earnthem prise amongst us
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I wo= uld love anyone who is on the Line 6 forums and feels they can support
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>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I will be brutally honest and ask you kindly to= just support or not
>=3B >=3B support my currant idea and not ask f= or more/similar etc..the reason bein
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>=3B >=3B Thanks
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>=3B >=3B Phill Wilson
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B _________________________________________________________________
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>=3B >=3B both
>=3B >=3B http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go= /186394591/direct/01/
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
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Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different = email accounts. Find out how. = --_160c8cff-fb95-4497-8caa-41bc41d38d64_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 20:41:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6B963BE8D; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O01bmNELez8R5rz9rLCozRK/ZAofCluoocEPb6Y0kcQ=; b=xUAkTpxMLsy33oh414+QNqEbT5o3vDBO/Ev8B0ijD10G+cOVk/S/jDbBIJAfMUhPRR U8Pcaax6lJLnmNb9o2Wwnq43MFXYiQ1utFeMz+Ez4OYaJ7czMfM6jQ2GYy68SqvOpHhz NcUaX2VoC8203SPhLJDMtaNPx2A7DtcCNgHCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=QNuRlOx9KL2kGeiBHN3qef8umuQ/EgpcFrFkzo0orSisliEuwVI5WKYKEUxI0zGt6e CvKXvpJLGL4uxklgvWv1OR/iGTQznvzjQH1d9thqev2zGOZuo7Mn0TBzpznGa0FYns83 YitDdgCtPCjN51k5TFHOqqj4qYA8/dIInN+AI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: milo.vuc@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4B256A70.5010409@mnet-online.de> References: <4B256A70.5010409@mnet-online.de> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:41:28 +0200 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60912151241h6c87ce40o162279a858fd32d4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Who was the german distributor of electrix? From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:41:30 +0000 (UTC) I bet that if you send an e-mail to the nice crew of Thomann.de they will know: studio AT thomann DOT de Disclaimer: I am just a client, I don't work for the company, but they are always very helpful and they would probably know who the Electrix distributor was... On 12/14/09, Florian Anwander wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone know, who distributed electrix gear (vulgo the repeater) in > Germany? > I am looking for a service manual, so I hope, the former distributor > still might have a copy. > > Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 21:02:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 662553BE8E; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B27F9D4.6000602@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:04:20 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: discounts on Expert Sleepers delays References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6qwN6.A._hC._l_JLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Os wrote: > Hi, > > shamelessly hawking my wares again - I've just announced a holiday sale: > > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/index_files/bundles-and-holiday-discounts.php > > > cheers, > os. Interesting stuff and good price. I'm considering those myself, now that I finally have a job again so I can move on with my studio plans. I took the liberty to mention the offers on our ADAdepot site, along with Per's and Sjaak's comments. (http://www.adadepot.com/forum/index.php/topic,11733.new.html#new) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 21:10:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74A5E3BE87; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=S5iZjm1Br6hDQLP9P/EX/QN900AHaxJkq+bk81U1Yi8=; b=NXT48iyl/F9USo6/ELdSozOlDf+wQwl13OfJE0rJP8T4oqXsyvk6uTrjOAlQrW9xz8 fS4fgCa5+b0gIud32OUEPfSL/pMhOFVLEpyxa9lGhXhh7oiFEDtNHH+/2dsHNvuDvzOL 2VDlcDVI9xRgNYyJaz66bHNQ/EL6cGkO8J1Ws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YpZXemci0hOlM466jKsYBb31D8vuZetRZtVj14V8ZvEnjO3zL6XRhbKGv8aH98MjTb Kp3rEowuI+6V5rt0CAg9xIadkRn1s8YpaIRTGqQEcD9cNntodBJn6fpTscYOxtwwknYl DXDIOYUSQ3HETPN7WyS6ohAyKXrLJyrFw7BPo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:10:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: What public is attracted by "some loopers" jamming ? From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215401592f3b4bf047acad1a1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:10:33 +0000 (UTC) --002215401592f3b4bf047acad1a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2009/12/14 Matthias Grob > On 13 Dec 2009, at 19:51, Zoe Keating wrote: > would your compositions really be the same if you had no looper but 8+ > cellists? > If so, I suspect you are rather an exception, > > Interesting discussion, here. The Y2K9 Sampler videos realized by Michael and Jim show short series of different looping acts. Maybe has a different impact a video showing a bunch of loopers jamming together ? I'm afraid it says less about looping.... A few days ago I've uploaded on youtube 3 videos from the Florence Loopfest , which was a "premiere" of the "in Rome" Loopfest . I posted them some days ago on facebook. Maybe some of you have missed them. so If you're interested, here is the link: http://livelooping.blogspot.com/2009/06/florence-loopfest.html Fabio www.eterogeneo.com --002215401592f3b4bf047acad1a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2009/12/14 Matthias Grob <<= a href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">matilists@gmail.com= >

On 13 Dec 2009, at 19:51, Zoe Ke= ating wrote:
would your compositions really be the same if you had no lo= oper but 8+ cellists?
If so, I suspect you are rather an exception,=20
=A0

Interesting discussion, here.

The Y2K9 Sampler videos realized by Michael and Jim show=A0short serie= s of different looping acts.

Maybe has a different impact a video showing a bunch of loopers jammin= g together ?

I'm afraid it says less about looping....

=A0

A few days ago I've uploaded on youtube=A03 videos from the Floren= ce Loopfest , which was a "premiere" of the "in Rome" L= oopfest .

I posted them some days ago on facebook. Maybe some of you have missed= them. so If you're interested, here=A0is=A0the link:

http://livelooping.blogspot.com/2009/06/florence-loopfest.html

=A0

Fabio

www.eterogeneo.com

=A0

--002215401592f3b4bf047acad1a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 21:15:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FDBC3BE8A; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZpIscmxQk8lpEL0T7ze6OZeJ4J+mOx8YHzblYX2fjDI=; b=on/QfKZ2XMIGjLpwPDcdQl2ztCNzbK0saOmSsW8PzUjshor+QBLAL+y7hCce2mFaI4 MquiuVOUFbun6e2JStpTnJxEElfA3igQx3DRKlYDYZje0iXj1DUSx+wtBaE56aMvlR0g jvH0/MFsYwyy9pD33OolRwMcWr9l/K6xR1bjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LlesiUkOQex7PFkmNsekvTKdcj6px1G+h00ThR9acAe6AfK0pZ3T+g4fvPjtkFrrQZ 2xO0Bn8pQHNtBMvT0Brz15IrMyvFTEcpn+PVecYbjkXyNxMKOOAgSTVUeZuOavh78k3f 4nvu8kYS2DcuX0peqDMwLrXdQWugT7UnvCsks= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:15:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60912151315j5a1f5a01p518795161d75350f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Fripp and the Electro-Harmonix delay From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:15:28 +0000 (UTC) What an absolute marketing failure on behalf of Electro Harmonix. For the basic wholesale cost of just one 16-second delay unit, they lost the long term and v-e-r-y expensive opportunity to promote their technology and products to all the future customers who see Mr. Fripp's gear setup photos online and base a part of their purchasing decisions on a well known professional's choices. It is not like Robert Fripp called them out of the blue and asked for a free pedal. They used his name without asking. Ethics 101... On 12/11/09, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Found this in an article about Fripp :) > > Q: "And now you you've replaced the tape-loop system with the > Electro-Harmonix box" > A: No! With 208 guitarists. Regarding the Electro-Harmonix, we read > this advert for the Electro-Harmonix 16-second digital delay with this > phrase in it, and the quote is "A Fripp in the box." So we got in the > touch with them and said, you know, Fripp would like one for nothing. > And they said no. So I bought one. You can't get them anymore." > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 22:02:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6A093BE8B; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YTVDtB5BQkrszG0b8UmJNl2f02U5pA1xTu8WJWGLn4Pb9tNeoX2u/s5AojLelEAa; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <1738044.1260914536402.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:02:16 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fripp and the Electro-Harmonix delay Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4899e84b0e9840cd77d750ba6731132b4d99f37241381ec17c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:02:16 +0000 (UTC) hi-i've been dealing w/ EH since the 70s and at the time 'marketing' was not a word they had ever heard of. MikeMathews is a maverick and phone calls to those guys back then were like cheech&chong routines...Dave?...Dave?...Dave?...Daves not here...Dave?... guys would hang up while speaking w/ you or leave you on hold while the phone was still live and you could hear them coughing and hacking and toking away in the background... products(graphic fuzz, poly flange) would show up in their boxes w/ the power wire hanging out the back-not connected to anything. buying stuff from them then was a gamble in every sense. and they got horrible reviews from the sound guys-probably for that reason i bought their stuff like crazy back then-still have that fripp ad that was in guitar player back then >frippin a box< and still have my 16sec ddl forever. s >From: Milo > >What an absolute marketing failure on behalf of Electro Harmonix. For >the basic wholesale cost of just one 16-second delay unit, they lost >the long term and v-e-r-y expensive opportunity to promote their >technology and products to all the future customers who see Mr. >Fripp's gear setup photos online and base a part of their purchasing >decisions on a well known professional's choices. It is not like >Robert Fripp called them out of the blue and asked for a free pedal. >They used his name without asking. Ethics 101... > >On 12/11/09, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: >> Found this in an article about Fripp :) >> >> Q: "And now you you've replaced the tape-loop system with the >> Electro-Harmonix box" >> A: No! With 208 guitarists. Regarding the Electro-Harmonix, we read >> this advert for the Electro-Harmonix 16-second digital delay with this >> phrase in it, and the quote is "A Fripp in the box." So we got in the >> touch with them and said, you know, Fripp would like one for nothing. >> And they said no. So I bought one. You can't get them anymore." >> >> -- >> Sjaak Overgaauw >> http://premonitionfactory.com/ >> http://livelooping.be/ >> http://euroloopfest.com/ >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 23:34:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36DAE3BE92; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=G0immJcAs1/d3yZ5KLncie2Ujo/hCEYgJhi6k5S1/sA=; b=lTIteClGVJct25p6R6UZuSYeO/y+tjn1hLM+iUmp93xO1Ar4exrF++nqHiyBSu8wsj jSGqsQnhEi2pL7pEvGVRk3qteNMO0I6PYXuMpmlvYH61ztSJVsH2GSKoYEHsDWW3JYA9 CxMXGd8yYj2T9PqPu1Qt8vy/4PRweIMAP7oc4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wYhoMotScH3/N1A2emdFT0tuXyBaMbO6Kc/jVK+ZLPcobJl07/104texL1aP+u181K JK848/Lk7WDa79Gdq6WlG2rka64jRwplqqPNvlz+DPm8loJeXE80hCblQSqPtaz4vhm9 HuEHCTQNsb68oJ4lV+Cx00Fdt4G6x0cvrnbPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:34:26 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504501416da6d959047accd43a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:34:27 +0000 (UTC) --00504501416da6d959047accd43a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rick, I believe you when you talk about the successes you've had with branding live looping. Nonetheless, it's been my experience that every time I tell someone about my looping work, I then need to explain it to them. Usually I say something like, "well, I play one thing for a while, then hit a button, and the computer keeps playing it while I start to play something else....and so on." Which of course tells them very little about what it actually sounds like! My friends in sales sometime have to deal with a situation they refer to as a "consultative sale", in which they must first help the customer understand that they actually have a problem that needs solving before finally trying to sell the solution to that problem. Such a prospect is known to have a much lower success rate. So it just seems to me that while it is possible to have success selling the public on a festival by using an unfamiliar term that must then be explained, one would think that greater success could be had by branding a term already known. On the other hand, simply by virtue of the fact that live looping as a genre is new, may well have gotten you more publicity than you might have gotten otherwise. And I have seriously thought about a little looping festival here in SF. I've got a couple of venues in mind. It would probably start as just a one day thing, and if it works, do it again as a weekend event. So I had been meaning to at least attend if not perform at your festival the last couple of years. My primary excuse had been that I didn't have an adequate "festival" performance rig. But I've finally gotten that sorted out. I should post pics of my pedalboard and laptop cases... :) -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --00504501416da6d959047accd43a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rick,

I believe you when you talk about the successes you've had wit= h branding live looping. Nonetheless, it's been my experience that ever= y time I tell someone about my looping work, I then=A0need to explain it to= them. Usually I say something like, "well, I play one thing for a whi= le, then hit a button, and the computer keeps playing it while I start to p= lay something else....and so on." Which of course tells them very litt= le about what it actually sounds like!

=A0

My friends in sales sometime have to deal with a situation they refer = to as a "consultative sale", in which they must first help the cu= stomer understand that they actually have a problem that=A0needs solving be= fore finally trying to sell the solution to that problem. Such a prospect i= s known to have a much lower success rate. So it just seems to me that whil= e it is possible to have success selling the public on a festival by using = an unfamiliar term that must then be explained, one would think that greate= r success could be had by branding a term already known. On the other hand,= simply by virtue of the fact that live looping as a genre is new, may well= have gotten you more publicity than you might have gotten otherwise. And I= have seriously thought about a little looping festival here in SF. I'v= e got a couple of venues in mind. It would probably start as just a one day= thing, and if it works, do it again as a weekend event.

=A0

So I had been meaning to at least attend if not perform at your festiv= al the last couple of years. My primary excuse had been that I didn't h= ave an adequate "festival" performance rig. But I've finally = gotten that sorted out. I should post pics of my pedalboard and laptop case= s... :)

=A0

--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic

--00504501416da6d959047accd43a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 23:36:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BB3B3BE90; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YDO/K/At7I8i4lIdGC3aOg)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:35:57 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:36:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_YDO/K/At7I8i4lIdGC3aOg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You should try explaining what a Chapman Stick is to somebody sometime. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 Rick, I believe you when you talk about the successes you've had with branding live looping. Nonetheless, it's been my experience that every time I tell someone about my looping work, I then need to explain it to them. Usually I say something like, "well, I play one thing for a while, then hit a button, and the computer keeps playing it while I start to play something else....and so on." Which of course tells them very little about what it actually sounds like! My friends in sales sometime have to deal with a situation they refer to as a "consultative sale", in which they must first help the customer understand that they actually have a problem that needs solving before finally trying to sell the solution to that problem. Such a prospect is known to have a much lower success rate. So it just seems to me that while it is possible to have success selling the public on a festival by using an unfamiliar term that must then be explained, one would think that greater success could be had by branding a term already known. On the other hand, simply by virtue of the fact that live looping as a genre is new, may well have gotten you more publicity than you might have gotten otherwise. And I have seriously thought about a little looping festival here in SF. I've got a couple of venues in mind. It would probably start as just a one day thing, and if it works, do it again as a weekend event. So I had been meaning to at least attend if not perform at your festival the last couple of years. My primary excuse had been that I didn't have an adequate "festival" performance rig. But I've finally gotten that sorted out. I should post pics of my pedalboard and laptop cases... :) -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --Boundary_(ID_YDO/K/At7I8i4lIdGC3aOg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

You should try explaining what a Chapman Stick is to somebody sometime.

toby

----- Original Message -----

From: George Ludwig

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:34 PM

Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2

Rick,

I believe you when you talk about the successes you've had with branding live looping. Nonetheless, it's been my experience that every time I tell someone about my looping work, I then need to explain it to them. Usually I say something like, "well, I play one thing for a while, then hit a button, and the computer keeps playing it while I start to play something else....and so on." Which of course tells them very little about what it actually sounds like!

My friends in sales sometime have to deal with a situation they refer to as a "consultative sale", in which they must first help the customer understand that they actually have a problem that needs solving before finally trying to sell the solution to that problem. Such a prospect is known to have a much lower success rate. So it just seems to me that while it is possible to have success selling the public on a festival by using an unfamiliar term that must then be explained, one would think that greater success could be had by branding a term already known. On the other hand, simply by virtue of the fact that live looping as a genre is new, may well have gotten you more publicity than you might have gotten otherwise. And I have seriously thought about a little looping festival here in SF. I've got a couple of venues in mind. It would probably start as just a one day thing, and if it works, do it again as a weekend event.

So I had been meaning to at least attend if not perform at your festival the last couple of years. My primary excuse had been that I didn't have an adequate "festival" performance rig. But I've finally gotten that sorted out. I should post pics of my pedalboard and laptop cases... :)

--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic

--Boundary_(ID_YDO/K/At7I8i4lIdGC3aOg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 15 23:49:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA4B33BE8B; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bvlqFiC9rEbl6kiMQvAAGu2RgmSkfU4cIgEh+pSgoF0=; b=tqq6ghUpLOgM2Ql9E3m4ViiYuFJLRVG4Doy23c+K0NjcUbQzHOUWdDMYT42RAaeosZ qL+Wfdpmn/PVIwTRGxdvYRH9ed0ojVN51/pcXGwK/epxIm+gwNm+BfAuP1baqdnhAp+3 acLs8EVUOyUE1OwAosUJaV3jatbj835NSms7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RS6C2OTAWB+vcrgYbczbYpPfIyEU/SzNsWMuB5FCg8phYwTDl4FmlOMw7guxOLb7Sx /F2CztHawC7iB2l+3y4LoGRqON60qsugytLm+yRNYMouu9lGOqxEkdLdbId2iJxMKwL8 a5+AMh4IRUklqQK5UvVCZG4bsEAqFK/mIr6O8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:49:23 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912151549i74268d16u59f73423274f49dd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4FQ9mC.A.3vE.ECCKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:49:24 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Toby G wrote: > You should try explaining what a Chapman Stick is to somebody sometime. That's as simple as explaining looping: Helps playing many parts simultaneously. Both are "orchestrating-on-the-fly gadgets"! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 00:02:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80B0A3BE8F; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8; reply-type=original Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912151549i74268d16u59f73423274f49dd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:02:05 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Good one!! toby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Toby G wrote: >> You should try explaining what a Chapman Stick is to somebody sometime. > > That's as simple as explaining looping: > > Helps playing many parts simultaneously. > Both are "orchestrating-on-the-fly gadgets"! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 00:10:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B6F43BE8E; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=68mP/zWcPPa5+RBPlzeSjN5i180Xa6hsbGAiRROTtko=; b=BlyhujAYpEaBJGnskIb5lMFEnJRLHXvH7hlC2ECeFOEaQNZ+LsOH7uzc0Ywqmm75pJ zW+U/7MbILMLeD5rDZEf6rHhlhhvP9iH3AdTASmPNfvhMHDzgLhVg8xN+sMINDGY5s6t gug5gB2QLVM4hkXrXGe9nqMA/VcaQ+GO21/zU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tuqyBeNyqIwKTDbeu6wdsUGYedimpaFli3qiAhQtzyZ7GOUAHebBc5xfTvomqYYWZv B131/vXaDXjb5UEBY1T0Bfnn9Ww3xz8+JUi+ZPZjHM/iVXvR59eVsbmWdxxKf1OXoXpC NQBgZxtiaZmHi0y3vGEVTa5lnHrVx22iZirEk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:10:52 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4knylB.A.CcF.NWCKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:10:53 +0000 (UTC) I know a lot of people in SF who aren't on this list, and who use some sort of looping. 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It would probably start as just a one day thing, and if it works, do > it again as a weekend event. > From papenzo1115@mail.kz Wed Dec 16 00:17:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 12511 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:17:22 UTC Received: from njut.edu.cn (escan.njut.edu.cn [202.119.248.43]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 10BF93BE8A for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:17:12 +0000 (UTC) X-EYOU-SPAMVALUE:0 X-EYOU-DEALDRC: Received: (eyou anti_spam gateway 3.0); Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:30:06 +0800 Message-ID: <460901806.32030@njut.edu.cn> X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: @ Received: from 41.217.65.4 by 192.168.100.100 with SMTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:30:03 +0800 Reply-To: From: "Prof. charles Soludo" Subject: Re:Hello Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:01:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Greetings & Compliments of the season! 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With best regards, Prof.Charles Soludo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 00:32:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 783A83BEA0; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/HGc7BCq4Aj9QxLy/KhRMyJlaAni0PJGyLNFhzke4g4=; b=uE23AsduAuks3Yh8mOBXj7xcM2DVwds1TWOBt2mpr08BgUkx2MpIImlFkYj4Z2RfPT z4+UjE4mEHp25/50ilslUl0YpbpVkCNAb+rcb6WvDLJQqwam/WChOpsJiSO4vyDiPg2H cgATTTKYb8F+XmxsGSu5A8xTAeZqUCHdUi604= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pq+PmDisB3RdEof5RTqDQrYSV5Bp83SyNa/wQ3OegZqn92lluoMb5sWR+m+Gf7j5RR fQZzQMeFCGt9aARRidA06nGNS/dVpT0JPtFIhTL4w5Y4AR+gk9fsze4Ygg6MO+QCbWqJ DsEOvswSUP7yesQcsrnAQI5lJR9EWOEkMzQP8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <007c01ca7c05$c742e090$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <007c01ca7c05$c742e090$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:32:25 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0912151632x5ae80b37r2a755411f4d18876@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Metheny - The Orchestrion Tour From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773da30086c28047acda4d0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:32:26 +0000 (UTC) --00151773da30086c28047acda4d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't seen it, but thanks for mentioning it. I just bought two tickets. :) My impression is that he is using MIDI (or some other control protocol) to trigger physical orchestral instruments to accompany him. I'm such a Methen= y fan, I've got to see it no matter what... -George On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > Hi, > did anyone see Pat Metheny on his Orchestrion-Tour ? > Is it interesting for both loopers and "normal" people? > I=B4m thinking about buying a ticket for me and my wife, but > not sure if it=B4s something for both of us. > I read on Metheny=B4s website that it=B4s a solo-performance > using devices to replace other instruments, which sounds > to me like he=B4s been using kind of a looping device. > Certainly a custom made device built especially for Metheny... > Anyone there who knows more about it? > Best, > Christo > www.christojota.de > > --=20 -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --00151773da30086c28047acda4d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I haven't seen it, but thanks for mentioning it. I just bought two= tickets. :)

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My impression is that he is using MIDI (or some other control protocol= ) to trigger physical orchestral instruments to accompany him. I'm such= a Metheny fan, I've got to see it no matter what...

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-George

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota <chris@christojo= ta.de> wrote:

Hi,

did anyone see Pat Metheny on his Orch= estrion-Tour ?

Is it interesting for both loopers and= "normal" people?

I=B4m thinking about buying a ticket f= or me and my wife, but

not sure if it=B4s something for both = of us.

I read on Metheny=B4s website that it= =B4s a solo-performance

using devices to replace other instrum= ents, which sounds

to me like he=B4s been using kind of a= looping device.

Certainly a custom made device built e= specially for Metheny...

Anyone there who knows more about it?<= /font>

Best,

Christo

www.christojota.de

=A0

--
-Ge= orge

http://www= .myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
--00151773da30086c28047acda4d0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 01:13:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5092A3BE8D; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1378 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:13:45 UTC Message-Id: <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: looping and the public and categorization Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:42 -0800 References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <95788E8C-67E8-4B55-8DA8-2E122E7ACA4F@gmail.com> <3fa302e30912100949wb58a6f5r7e17bb430a6dd5ad@mail.gmail.com> <4B229336.4050206@tiscali.co.uk> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 0b01324d-e9dd-11de-97bb-002264978518 X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRbfT4bDBpo UEhAUlJSHgBoCxgF SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQK QhEMHGkGZ2VgamJR VEJbcU1UIgNLfR1B Pk0qXSdZfGQGMi99 TlA5NXVpZW8FdngE HVFQdAIERUEMBj86 SFgLGzlnAU0IDz0u JRgnIRYVGkpZOUwu PFQmQ1MKOgMTDQs2 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1014:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: <8N9TUC.A.dSH.KRDKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:13:46 +0000 (UTC) you're right of course matthias. my work would not be at all the same if i hadn't stumbled onto looping. the tools have directly influenced my "style"! a coda, and then i really will shut up..... i was just thinking about all this categorization business and realize that a huge part of my career strategy is to never categorize myself. if if makes sense: i very actively avoid categorization! i avoid appealing specifically to any one group, even if i am certainly connected to it: loopers, cellists, computer nerds, DIYers, steampunks, goths, ravers, indie rockers, public radio fans, tall female freckled redheads with dreadlocks, etc. i prefer to be the only fish in my pond. if another fish moves in i tend to move out and make another pond. so i think my perceived rejection of "looping" is related to this. (i don't know if that's really a strategy. i've done this my entire life and it might just be my quirky personality) lastly....99% of the people who license my music have NO idea that i even perform live. and as i don't employ live looping in my recordings, for those who know me only from a recording, live looping would just be confusing. respect! z On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > On 13 Dec 2009, at 19:51, Zoe Keating wrote: >> if all the electricity disappeared tomorrow, i could still perform, >> but i'd have to hire 8+ cellists to play the music (which is >> actually how looping started for me, i couldn't find enough >> cellists). > > oh, sorry, Zoe, I did not know you started with the compositions and > then only needed a tool to execute them. > and looping did not bring you new ideas? would your compositions > really be the same if you had no looper but 8+ cellists? > If so, I suspect you are rather an exception, or does anyone know of > other composers who use looping tools like this? > >> it would sound different because its not me, but an ensemble of >> cellists could easily play my music. > > sure. which sound would you prefer? > >> no electricity needed. i've already heard 2 groups do it. >> >> i also know of two high profile cellists who perform music with pre- >> recorded cello tracks and them solo'ing in front. (i.e. no live >> looping) >> >> most people think that we all do the same thing (including their >> publicists). it irritates me, but tells me that its not the live >> looping that people are hearing. > > ...which might be a reason for you to use the label LiveLooping more > intensely and for me to finally bring the Livelooping.org site up to > date with all I wrote and joined this year so anyone can easily look > up what its about. And we should make a special chapter for > composers who use the tool to execute what they imagine without the > tool, as opposed to the majority who gather ideas for compositions > by playing with the tool and then possibly execute them with a group > without the tool. >> >> >> >> On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: >> >>> your music would not be done in any other way, would it? >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 06:18:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABD4D3BE8B; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/PYHFsickJcorAiak8XNlYxvLWgsVo7RCT0MUmlM+oU=; b=l5imvQqBhOiqgNC2fpXR1mOXWIkBuXIPIU4FIpdm/Io0E7AVjOMzAMhITTv+IjLWQI OKa+uy39rnNDbBfQMKak+3d0InGzTc3cXuW/gGX0jM7nnAPfxfvabtU8AOYXM4hrAnh3 k9kOLAGhM0BbZP+pmU01LUaJepU+ugLzTZVL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JOBIzdTG2kakczV+UZHZizSoj/BCHLqInIActZvzoZLJFGkCHmgw3YYhvO4ffNj4Bq lkHj3YC1W1Y9b8L1Qx1+rJOynHHOIw5HZKrqBFdSLW8hVdb3qdldHyLLjp9ydJ+/9jVe puSwe4d/VR82QR0Z7jZZU+xy35RIRYaVGyT8Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:18:43 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> Subject: dealing with Live, default control mapping From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773da307d02ab047ad27ab8 Resent-Message-ID: <-Y8f-C.A.2U.EvHKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:18:44 +0000 (UTC) --00151773da307d02ab047ad27ab8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of its parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the mapping for midi control. The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume control that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the volume of Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in Live, but still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I really just want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1. I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one that you can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn it off this defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches. -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --00151773da307d02ab047ad27ab8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of it= s parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the mapp= ing for midi control.

The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume contro= l that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the vol= ume of Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in= Live, but still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I rea= lly just want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1.

I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one tha= t you can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn it off= this defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches.

--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic

--00151773da307d02ab047ad27ab8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 08:29:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E831C3BE8F; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XHJAcF7Ai9twRfZ9F4F+7MjjQZfDeF8xchbcHCqwgIg=; b=xZdHlYcwt7xQCiTgjDmgZCK32w9tDdCMH1C4op+Vynp1/zxpTkldrGzfspdyXcn+Q6 UNvtfvEw2MhB/YZtmCED8CVvNLcNbBlNqwHlr1FCTA1AUNIhrSsnNPN0zoCWBi9FR1jV pfwseehS+kpGcy64WEquhFRTg8NGkmjaXUcnQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mz1GqpVB4zskiDvgO0o56ksUezm+mx57eNeYl3O291ugEHUTLRgpb5Np6lRdoDfEod QY6vsXcjZO2eUJIvbRouThusH9oggxTXC2oPhJEl51J7GhI2JvTHNorh4DZ2a+IvTzR5 K70otb35hBfECBqzjZdChbCTmd4CCvjUyFCO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> References: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:29:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912160029t70d88a5cscfe2810e2181207c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <1N65rD.A.0iE.jpJKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:29:23 +0000 (UTC) YOu can't "turn off" that behavior. What you can do is to not send in the data as remote control data for Live but rather as a pipe right into the Mobius plug-in. The place to set that up is in Live's preferences, the "MIDI Sync" tab. The MIDI In port that you use to control Mobius (given you control it by direct MIDI Input and not by Live's parameter, which is what Ableton usually recommends but we loopists don't usually prefer) should be set to "Track". The MIDI In port that you use to control Live should be set to "Remote". When these preferences are correct you also have to set up a MIDI Track in Live that snags your external MIDI data, aimed for Mobius, (as the Live track's "Input") and directs the stream into Mobius (addressing as "Track Output" first the track that hosts Mobious and then the plug-in Mobius). This is just the normal way of routing MIDI in Live, well explained in Live's manual. To set up more complex routing you may send MIDI through the OS as well (IAC Bus on a Mac and by using the third-party hack MIDI Yoke on a Windows machine). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:18 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of its > parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the mapping > for midi control. > > The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume control > that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the volume of > Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in Live, but > still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I really just > want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1. > > I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one that you > can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn it off this > defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches. > > -- > -George > > http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 08:30:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C603C3BE8A; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c5771784-4754-4677-9bba-045aff2a3269_" X-Originating-IP: [86.133.140.237] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: looping and the public and categorization Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:30:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <95788E8C-67E8-4B55-8DA8-2E122E7ACA4F@gmail.com> <3fa302e30912100949wb58a6f5r7e17bb430a6dd5ad@mail.gmail.com> <4B229336.4050206@tiscali.co.uk> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com>,<2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2009 08:30:28.0904 (UTC) FILETIME=[0611DA80:01CA7E2A] Resent-Message-ID: <0BtvCC.A.AoE.lqJKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:30:29 +0000 (UTC) --_c5771784-4754-4677-9bba-045aff2a3269_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is an interesting debate for me since=2C as some of you are aware=2C I= 'm trying=2C (with little success) to sort out a looping gig here in Bristo= l.=20 I've aproached a number of "alternative" venues but they're not really up f= or it. My immediate response is to re-approach the venues with a genre=2C (= probably ambient or chill). This flies in the face of what Rick has discove= red=2C (and I take your points completely Rick).=20 One of the problems for me is that if you say live-looping then someone wil= l immediately think of Beardyman or some such artist. If they think Beardym= an and book us=2C they will be disappointed=2C if they don't=2C very often = they won't have a clue what lve looping is and what they really want is to = know what the feel of the music is. That's what I'd want to know before goi= ng to a gig too... Peace G =20 _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/= --_c5771784-4754-4677-9bba-045aff2a3269_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is an interesting debate for me since=2C as some of you are aware=2C I= 'm trying=2C (with little success) to sort out a looping gig here in Bristo= l.
I've aproached a number of "alternative" venues but they're not real= ly up for it. My immediate response is to re-approach the venues with a gen= re=2C (probably ambient or chill). This flies in the face of what Rick has = discovered=2C (and I take your points completely Rick).
One of the prob= lems for me is that if you say live-looping then someone will immediately t= hink of Beardyman or some such artist. If they think Beardyman and book us= =2C they will be disappointed=2C if they don't=2C very often they won't hav= e a clue what lve looping is and what they really want is to know what the = feel of the music is. That's what I'd want to know before going to a gig to= o...

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New! Receive and = respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out h= ow. = --_c5771784-4754-4677-9bba-045aff2a3269_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 11:48:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48ED13BE8A; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B28C969.3070705@mnet-online.de> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:50:01 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: milo.vuc@gmail.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who was the german distributor of electrix? References: <4B256A70.5010409@mnet-online.de> <3f8d9ee60912151241h6c87ce40o162279a858fd32d4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60912151241h6c87ce40o162279a858fd32d4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi Milo thanks for the hint (my experience with thomann is partially a little different - they are very helpful as long as the request relates on direct customer service regarding products I bought at them or products I seem to be willing to buy...) The european importer was "interstate audio" in the Netherlands. A kind person from interstate audio gave me the following information: In 2002 when IVL Technologies(*) shut down Electrix they made a joint venture with TC and founded TC-Helicon, who took over the responsability for the Electrix warranties in Europe. Interstate Audio does not have any support information. I did not follow this trace, as I received kind help from Condor Elecronics in Seattle. Florian (*)the company behind Electrix - original a developpers company which stands in fact behind several well known products of different brands. schrieb: > I bet that if you send an e-mail to the nice crew of Thomann.de they will know: > studio AT thomann DOT de > > Disclaimer: I am just a client, I don't work for the company, but they > are always very helpful and they would probably know who the Electrix > distributor was... > > On 12/14/09, Florian Anwander wrote: >> Hi, >> >> does anyone know, who distributed electrix gear (vulgo the repeater) in >> Germany? >> I am looking for a service manual, so I hope, the former distributor >> still might have a copy. >> >> Florian > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 11:55:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDE343BE8A; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=SwTmg8p/Xz6/nZho+AUiYz5zMnGh4fbEPmK5HJWT6Po=; b=RpSXMmzJ4S91o+1c4I5t8rM4k430FYLDlMgcMEY/i4cMJjxMp1zuKsn8lYNL4+fHQT U/8oE/zuLkjaiBZyDOnltVzvn4GUMOqlCubBtds84igXAkLec+DZuemi8/s2o/j0tqD/ P/gXojoDH7mTUR4OaN7YO2q6BJ83fklzbZo3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=mMmrhKHJPS0C+yEStcZIW7Eyz3QPdYVzYKLKW81isgqBxT6ev6pErmVJDK1kHqkcIO ez6YoX4QZ3pqXh5QJXA3QvgTmuPxIteeFaCcHFrYBsxXVz8TXTYxCPZvm8c+Ue3Q/HVU UYqC6K+bGC7h4UJZW1IaApPOJydz/ZP0kr8jI= Message-Id: <3B33DD1C-A65F-4537-92F5-29883C46C5E5@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: looping and the public and categorization Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:49:27 -0300 References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <95788E8C-67E8-4B55-8DA8-2E122E7ACA4F@gmail.com> <3fa302e30912100949wb58a6f5r7e17bb430a6dd5ad@mail.gmail.com> <4B229336.4050206@tiscali.co.uk> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com> <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <92_7i.A.FaF.hqMKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:55:13 +0000 (UTC) youhou, Zoe! On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:50, Zoe Keating wrote: > you're right of course matthias. my work would not be at all the > same if i hadn't stumbled onto looping. the tools have directly > influenced my "style"! > > a coda, and then i really will shut up..... please don't... :-) > > i was just thinking about all this categorization business and > realize that a huge part of my career strategy is to never > categorize myself. if if makes sense: i very actively avoid > categorization! I hate it, too. sit into a drawer is dangerous because someone might close it :-) then again, if the others put the category on you, it might be worse and if the record shops don't distribute your record because they don't know where to put it... > > i avoid appealing specifically to any one group, even if i am > certainly connected to it: loopers, cellists, computer nerds, > DIYers, steampunks, goths, ravers, indie rockers, public radio fans, > tall female freckled redheads with dreadlocks, etc. i prefer to be > the only fish in my pond. if another fish moves in i tend to move > out and make another pond. so i think my perceived rejection of > "looping" is related to this. (i don't know if that's really a > strategy. i've done this my entire life and it might just be my > quirky personality) ok, this answers most of my question! and I am not going to discuss your personality and such, but maybe we can think together about the details of such behavior - which is not so special, most artists have this energy, its part of what makes us interesting... so I am asking anyone here who feels similar: 1 as you say, there are categories you put yourself by what you do and look. there is no need to mention that you play cello and like fire power hair (I love it!...), because its on any picture of yours. (you could have chosen half long brown hair and a nylon guitar which would have put you much less into a category, but by trying to choose a non category you fell into a stronger one :-) on some pictures its even visible that you use computers, but its hard to see that you loop in the computer hence the idea that you checking email at soundcheck or use a prerecorded load of cellos. :-) (in the past, a specialist could spot a Repeater, but the main public only knows 'cello' and 'electronic') so: to mention that you use LiveLooping puts you more into a category than a picture of yours does? because a word is heavier than a picture? (this is a main problem of the promotion of the LL idea: its not really visible) 2 Since you don't like to feel in a category, you don't like if others put you in one? as a consequence: If we finally come around to list the LL musicians (which is not easy, thats why we did not do it yet, but the youtube.com/livelooping playlist end up being such a list already) would you prefer not to be on the list? you really want me to take you out of the *Featured Instrumentalists* ? damdidamdidam... since we are a bunch of artist here, we don't need to be logical, I feel we all love to mention you even if you don't mention us :-) > lastly....99% of the people who license my music have NO idea that i > even perform live. and as i don't employ live looping in my > recordings, for those who know me only from a recording, live > looping would just be confusing. oh, thats another interesting point! And this is probably rather rare... does any one know of another artist who uses LL on stage but multitracking for the recording of the same compositions? there are so many categories of LiveLooping artist... even not considering the musical style, just by the way or intensity of use... love Matthias > > respect! z > > > > On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > >> On 13 Dec 2009, at 19:51, Zoe Keating wrote: >>> if all the electricity disappeared tomorrow, i could still >>> perform, but i'd have to hire 8+ cellists to play the music (which >>> is actually how looping started for me, i couldn't find enough >>> cellists). >> >> oh, sorry, Zoe, I did not know you started with the compositions >> and then only needed a tool to execute them. >> and looping did not bring you new ideas? would your compositions >> really be the same if you had no looper but 8+ cellists? >> If so, I suspect you are rather an exception, or does anyone know >> of other composers who use looping tools like this? >> >>> it would sound different because its not me, but an ensemble of >>> cellists could easily play my music. >> >> sure. which sound would you prefer? >> >>> no electricity needed. i've already heard 2 groups do it. >>> >>> i also know of two high profile cellists who perform music with >>> pre-recorded cello tracks and them solo'ing in front. (i.e. no >>> live looping) >>> >>> most people think that we all do the same thing (including their >>> publicists). it irritates me, but tells me that its not the live >>> looping that people are hearing. >> >> ...which might be a reason for you to use the label LiveLooping >> more intensely and for me to finally bring the Livelooping.org site >> up to date with all I wrote and joined this year so anyone can >> easily look up what its about. And we should make a special chapter >> for composers who use the tool to execute what they imagine without >> the tool, as opposed to the majority who gather ideas for >> compositions by playing with the tool and then possibly execute >> them with a group without the tool. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: >>> >>>> your music would not be done in any other way, would it? >>> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 12:44:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E8F83BE8C; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+VaU4dsGnKuushTDFNOBNKnhIRvzGIJ0K42TjMSnf6A=; b=PbprcfxCO9RkcZh+Bt60HSf2ZdaZ0nTySzDn+vqUDxaGkVv6DspYOZyT/Qlf2FDumD M46jwu3ilpFv84Yt+fw9SNRObr1RDGt3aLGBOo6OpxjxbIgmEsIpJYCUVfSWLR5Ql9IW WdamNw6RGqsnYkwJQjvyiBBi4Q6EMFiJjky+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dK5o/28edtO5HghZ3OIXIFcB2hMusi0VtHxyY6cZVptPWf2j6Rbm/F8W8phRcPmnhm knnl0bEl/jUIqs2jIQumoN1UWrhgXeQoujSQvA55BukUnBKr8Y/Qe3fLmAoyZ24i3Sq+ bnaXYjgF60NldbtJ9VGAnl0nOKKyaIdQtA4eg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3B33DD1C-A65F-4537-92F5-29883C46C5E5@gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com> <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> <3B33DD1C-A65F-4537-92F5-29883C46C5E5@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912160444v4c850015m665a27b838426d0e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping and the public and categorization From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:44:21 +0000 (UTC) >> lastly....99% of the people who license my music have NO idea that i even >> perform live. and as i don't employ live looping in my recordings, for those >> who know me only from a recording, live looping would just be confusing. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > oh, thats another interesting point! And this is probably rather rare... > does any one know of another artist who uses LL on stage but multitracking > for the recording of the same compositions? I'm not so sure it is "rare". My guess would be that it is quite common. If you are not using looping "as an instrument" it may sound better to play and record the parts by traditional studio multi tracking instead of looping them in one go. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 13:43:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED0523BE8D; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:43:23 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=cv9tYtGKZFClmMKNg/sB+LKdqE6tpY8nSy5ER6V26zFWhJbrARGGDWSh30EUAUc3wLjjneNVf/DyUV+YmnKCdg3zFtnQduR9CDYA5aLUpvfr5BDB7xTvrStKy7hrUto/; Message-ID: <20091216073642.0k5qgqzyo88ogkos@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:36:42 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: looping and the public and categorization References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <95788E8C-67E8-4B55-8DA8-2E122E7ACA4F@gmail.com> <3fa302e30912100949wb58a6f5r7e17bb430a6dd5ad@mail.gmail.com> <4B229336.4050206@tiscali.co.uk> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com>,<2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Gareth Whittock : > > ... My immediate response is to re-approach the venues with a =20 > genre, (probably ambient or chill). This flies in the face of what =20 > Rick has discovered, (and I take your points completely Rick). > One of the problems for me is that if you say live-looping then =20 > someone will immediately think of Beardyman or some such artist... > ...and if you say "pipe organ" people immediately think of "phantom of =20 the opera" or general incompetence. Unfortunately, the last thing =20 most people think of is music that they would enjoy. We labor under =20 the curse of stereotypes. I don't think that it is altogether necessary for music festivals to =20 have a narrow focus. For example, there are hundreds of art festivals =20 throughout the country and most of them are simply called "art =20 festivals" -- and include, photography, paintings, sculpture, and even =20 woodworking. I once attended a "Native American" art festival and =20 there was so much stuff there one couldn't see if all in one day. Of course, to simply call a music festival a "music festival" gives =20 the potential audience no idea of what they are going to hear. To =20 give the festival name a genre immediately narrows it, (i.e. Jazz =20 festival or RockFest). A music festival could focus on a particular =20 instrument (i.e. a drum festival, guitar festival). A name such as =20 "Loop festival", "Electronic music festival", or "experimental music =20 festival", etc... helps to narrow the focus enough to inform a =20 potential audience while allowing a breadth of genres. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 15:09:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA8B43BE8D; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 308787219/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.172.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.172.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AogBAFOHKEtPTqw9/2dsb2JhbAAIhAOUbq1WkBGBL4IqUgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,406,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="308787219" Message-ID: <4B28F836.5030002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:09:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping and the public and categorization References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com> <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> <3B33DD1C-A65F-4537-92F5-29883C46C5E5@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912160444v4c850015m665a27b838426d0e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0912160444v4c850015m665a27b838426d0e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matt :-) I think it's pretty rare for anyone to do a studio recording project wholly as livelooping. Might be worth making a list. >If we finally come around to list the LL musicians (a bit of background...Matt's working on a website called livelooping.org with the intention of promoting live looping as an artform, aimed at the public rather than at loopers) I don't understand the desire to label so many artists as "livelooping". If they only use it for a bit of multitracking then it's no different to insisting that every singer who strums a chord or two could be called a guitarist. ...and they might be a bit sad you don't care about their beautiful singing. There's absolutely no need to promote the concept that looping technology can be used to do multitracking, that's something that's very much well known these days. Also, the growing collection of artists who do that and thrive hardly need help from a bunch of unknown musos. What the public doesn't know is that looping technology can be used to create music such as has not been heard before, that it's possible to "take it to the next level", to quote an appreciative audience member. Some of us have spent hours/days/years developing skills to use loop technology in a way which feels musical, using it as an instrument. Surely that's "livelooping". Now,if guys who do live multitracking actually *wanted* to refer to what they do as "livelooping" then that would be fine...but all the evidence seems to show that they don't want to do that, they'd rather highlight the things that they consider important to their music, the things that make their music a unique expression. Using loops really *is* just a technical thing in that case. Since the introduction of the Roland machines, which are hardly designed as a spring board for the imagination, the world of looping has changed. The term "loop station" is heard all the time, and reflects that the public know that looping exists, but not that it can do anything amazing. So, I'm suggesting the www.livelooping.org would better serve by promoting livelooping as a way to make new music, rather than a convenient(and fun) way to reduce the number or performers required. Perhaps make a distinction between liveloopers, and people who "use loops live". hope that makes some kind of sense, andy butler Per Boysen wrote: >>Zoe: >>> lastly....99% of the people who license my music have NO idea that i even >>> perform live. and as i don't employ live looping in my recordings, for those >>> who know me only from a recording, live looping would just be confusing. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 16:00:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F1383BE8D; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JbVj4b5mMN5Lv63g86zHtuC5gCOiWR+2zC5G5L3VUj0=; b=mksJVdA19lWPYjLZvCdB42iv+4zcVHgu8bekYOQXRjgntISY4dIm8jmrFKzJ9hQXDm HHz2MA+E7pkJKNHqDC3iBKg8UAf/jlk+qJQNT7ulN4ZtnTC2nNqc0s7BrgEFv/+4RKnU 3j1bpmNjz5irJzLpoDNzIXHXw29GQo2UPgMJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=athTZSqJxqNEZLwsyscX2moJKIOPluGFBhKzkICJaGoeUx9RjJ4cAGlKhnmvxbuJoj fUQBa6eI6VQS0hkxHiDQ7UP0+1+K3g2AbErZbpoABkIPTfIQ0SWdcDUgbt7yFC4Gszz5 HcIvXfhRFS65+YjpsTwY8gFrA4w+BV0Uq+Z8M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0912160029t70d88a5cscfe2810e2181207c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912160029t70d88a5cscfe2810e2181207c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:00:21 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0912160800j257b9ec1tebdbbbaba9ccfe3c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450169e397ed99047ada9ab3 Resent-Message-ID: <9lgF8.A.SxH.WQQKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:00:23 +0000 (UTC) --0050450169e397ed99047ada9ab3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per, Thanks for explaining those options to me, I really didn't know even after all this time. :) Anyway, the solution I got form the Ableton forum worked perfectly for me, which was to, in the midi sync tab, where it lists midi inputs 1-6 with 3 drop down list boxes, one for control surface, one for input, and lastly for output, set the control surface to nothing. When you have the control surface option selected, Live does an automapping of hardware controls to Live controls. That's what I couldn't get rid of. Your solution doesn't really work for me because I use half of the nanoKontrol for Mobius, and the other half for Live tracks. I wanted the option to play along with Live's loops, and to be able to control them. For my more serious music I use only Mobius, but I've been working on playing along with various pre-recorded loops as an experiment. And for that it's nice to have control of both. Best, George On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > YOu can't "turn off" that behavior. What you can do is to not send in > the data as remote control data for Live but rather as a pipe right > into the Mobius plug-in. The place to set that up is in Live's > preferences, the "MIDI Sync" tab. The MIDI In port that you use to > control Mobius (given you control it by direct MIDI Input and not by > Live's parameter, which is what Ableton usually recommends but we > loopists don't usually prefer) should be set to "Track". The MIDI In > port that you use to control Live should be set to "Remote". When > these preferences are correct you also have to set up a MIDI Track in > Live that snags your external MIDI data, aimed for Mobius, (as the > Live track's "Input") and directs the stream into Mobius (addressing > as "Track Output" first the track that hosts Mobious and then the > plug-in Mobius). This is just the normal way of routing MIDI in Live, > well explained in Live's manual. To set up more complex routing you > may send MIDI through the OS as well (IAC Bus on a Mac and by using > the third-party hack MIDI Yoke on a Windows machine). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:18 AM, George Ludwig > wrote: > > I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of its > > parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the > mapping > > for midi control. > > > > The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume control > > that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the volume > of > > Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in Live, but > > still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I really just > > want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1. > > > > I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one that you > > can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn it off > this > > defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches. > > > > -- > > -George > > > > http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > > > > -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --0050450169e397ed99047ada9ab3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Per,

=A0

Thanks for explaining those options to me, I really didn't know ev= en after all this time. :)

=A0

Anyway, the solution I got form the Ableton forum worked perfectly for= me, which was to, in the midi sync tab, where it lists midi inputs 1-6 wit= h 3 drop down list boxes, one for control surface, one for input, and lastl= y for output, set the control surface to nothing. When you have the control= surface option selected, Live does an automapping of hardware controls to = Live controls. That's what I couldn't get rid of.

=A0

Your solution doesn't really work for me because I use half of the= nanoKontrol for Mobius, and the other half for Live tracks. I wanted the o= ption to play along with Live's loops, and to be able to control them.<= /div>

=A0

For my more serious music I use only Mobius, but I've been working= on playing along with various pre-recorded loops as an experiment. And for= that it's nice to have control of both.

=A0

Best,

=A0

George

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.c= om> wrote:

YOu can't "turn off&quo= t; that behavior. What you can do is to not send in
the data as remote c= ontrol data for Live but rather as a pipe right
into the Mobius plug-in. The place to set that up is in Live's
prefe= rences, the "MIDI Sync" tab. The MIDI In port that you use to
= control Mobius (given you control it by direct MIDI Input and not by
Live's parameter, which is what Ableton usually recommends but we
lo= opists don't usually prefer) should be set to "Track". The MI= DI In
port that you use to control Live should be set to "Remote&qu= ot;. When
these preferences are correct you also have to set up a MIDI Track in
Li= ve that snags your external MIDI data, aimed for Mobius, (as the
Live tr= ack's "Input") and directs the stream into Mobius (addressing=
as "Track Output" first the track that hosts Mobious and then the=
plug-in Mobius). This is just the normal way of routing MIDI in Live,well explained in Live's manual. To set up more complex routing you may send MIDI through the OS as well (IAC Bus on a Mac and by using
the = third-party hack MIDI Yoke on a Windows machine).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:18 AM, George Ludwig
<georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com= > wrote:
> I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to c= ontrol some of its
> parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the m= apping
> for midi control.
>
> The problem is, when I run= it in Live, Live intercepts the volume control
> that I have mapped = to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the volume of
> Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in L= ive, but
> still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when= I really just
> want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1. >
> I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides t= he one that you
> can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. Ho= w do I turn it off this
> defualt behavior?! This is giving me major = headaches.
>
> --
> -George
>
> http://www.myspace.com/georgelu= dwigmusic
>

--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
--0050450169e397ed99047ada9ab3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 16:09:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C27643BE8D; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:09:47 -0800 Subject: FS: analog Effects, Drum machine, Synths, Stuff. Cool and priced for the 'olidays From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:09:49 +0000 (UTC) A few very cool analog goodies for sale. Some old stuff at lower prices and new stuff too. 1.Ibanez AD202 rack analog delay. $225. The best IMNSHO. I have two and am keeping the other. 2. Original 1970s EH Big Muff Pi Fuzz. $165. EH3003 With original box. Nice. 3. Univox analog Drum machine. $85. Poor man's CR78. Sweet all analog tones doing the cha-cha and more. Be kraftwerk, Suicide, or yourself. Built heavy and strong like the Atlantic City lounge performers it was made for. 4. Music from Outer Space Sound Lab. ONLY $275!!! Fully assembled with case and internal PS. built by BlueLantern with some mods by me. All sorts of upgrades including timing mods, fine tunes for both VCOs, CV/gate in, etc etc. You won't find another all analog two vco, noise, filtered knob ridden synth like this for this price kids! 5. Vox Brian May amp - $135 VBM-1 special amp. signature sounds of the "deacy" amp Brian May used on many queen recordings with his special treble booster circuit built in. More pedals, Euro Zvex Fuzz Factory module, Synths, circuit bent stuff etc. Full info and pictures on all the above and more: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm I take USPS MO or paypal (buyer pays fees). Pick up in Phila pa or pay actual shipping costs and will pack well for free. Any questions drop me an email. Thanks for looking D_ ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 16:15:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E539A3BE91; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 308379602/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.172.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.172.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AocBAMuWKEtPTqw9/2dsb2JhbAAImHG9eoQrBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,406,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="308379602" Message-ID: <4B2907BF.5040709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:15:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping References: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912160029t70d88a5cscfe2810e2181207c@mail.gmail.com> <1318f21d0912160800j257b9ec1tebdbbbaba9ccfe3c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0912160800j257b9ec1tebdbbbaba9ccfe3c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:15:47 +0000 (UTC) George Ludwig wrote: > Per, > > Thanks for explaining those options to me, I really didn't know even > after all this time. :) > control surface option selected, Live does an automapping of hardware > controls to Live controls. That's what I couldn't get rid of. > > Your solution doesn't really work for me because I use half of the > nanoKontrol for Mobius, and the other half for Live tracks. Is it possible to use the "Per" method, but open 2(or more) midi tracks, set them to receive different channels, and route them to to what you need? (I'm kind of guessing, would be interested to know if it's possible) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 16:23:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78C5E3BE90; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f6k2BxxuNnWWLMfmtFT+UdUblEBPbqhcKpdTcvMXb8M=; b=nxwUNFfgPLlfwfhJp/z3arViISCmD9v2br6HVR12tRmvxZWvvH/WeI2Ir53F5cLueU Vf3Jc7Z/yKE/u/jx3G1CVooI2ddCSh48+IkDnr8JQbxw06ELq4JCBi29gMaZg/e8dm7q 57lQaj4pOYCc8gxgVN3+zF+EKvOOso6eNSEUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ogd7+VqI7T0E/ot2NT3HtPhLQIzr0rcDvGmEwoILs6DNuwV7qj1Q7EbG2sE7zbC9s6 TmSqc+8/le0gAApFEVK20b640oYuRf21pt/OntjcXpSf+j/Qwgv4Mq5f7xXKRrTa1N5t 5F8vi5W3WHvAZLUzrUemUnnSSo84joJFh9ANo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B2907BF.5040709@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912160029t70d88a5cscfe2810e2181207c@mail.gmail.com> <1318f21d0912160800j257b9ec1tebdbbbaba9ccfe3c@mail.gmail.com> <4B2907BF.5040709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:23:16 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0912160823p19c79420p1d438812c4fbc694@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64603ea8b436d047adaeca4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:23:18 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64603ea8b436d047adaeca4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 An interesting thought...I'll try it after I get home from work...but I've got to run right now... On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:15 AM, andy butler wrote: > George Ludwig wrote: > >> Per, >> Thanks for explaining those options to me, I really didn't know even >> after all this time. :) >> > > control surface option selected, Live does an automapping of hardware >> controls to Live controls. That's what I couldn't get rid of. >> Your solution doesn't really work for me because I use half of the >> nanoKontrol for Mobius, and the other half for Live tracks. >> > > Is it possible to use the "Per" method, but open > 2(or more) midi tracks, set them to receive different channels, > and route them to to what you need? > > (I'm kind of guessing, would be interested to know if it's possible) > > andy > > > -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --0016e64603ea8b436d047adaeca4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An interesting thought...I'll try it after I get home from work...but I= 've got to run right now...

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:15 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tisca= li.co.uk> wrote:

George Ludwig wrote:

Per,
=A0Thanks for explaining= those options to me, I really didn't know even after all this time. :)=

control surface option selected,= Live does an automapping of hardware controls to Live controls. That's= what I couldn't get rid of.
=A0Your solution doesn't really work for me because I use half of the n= anoKontrol for Mobius, and the other half for Live tracks.

Is it possible to use the "Per" method, but open
2(or more) midi tracks, set them to receive different channels,
and rout= e them to to what you need?

(I'm kind of guessing, would be inte= rested to know if it's possible)

andy

--
-George<= br>
http://www.mysp= ace.com/georgeludwigmusic
--0016e64603ea8b436d047adaeca4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 16:25:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8345E3BE8F; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vJineULoUnhw3i3biWE6PShOrspJ4KtkbvwX0XGJ/EY=; b=pt76y5Y8KEM1oGrm4ky9CwGMueHfVmZxPOEYAnm9EPCvHckvjUtpCWKIZ2Mm0lP0tO 335oVo+HMFOUyTOdj0N+qlGKl0+gpQmxWlFYe2G1plnamDqp7YS1WgZSQJySF/QZud4k 9D/jdzE4Cgl67lsDtDSL4R3ZCjxQ9cYD/o2uI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uIIyaPa2nWIhcXd9ZcvG5TKxOtpDEivJQt0vlJgcaX4eP2YQa+1anhg04E3CpYM8Db hOfXvW0qKZ6BwdUZj8kuQB7561MtHAAjE5lmtultwE4OPFnsSLXAkCkpejkEoEdMDRoe 5fPSD+ZFCe/pTgN5QcFJ8Djwnb3R28OeMpYnA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0912160029t70d88a5cscfe2810e2181207c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912160029t70d88a5cscfe2810e2181207c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:25:06 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912160825vefffbe3h671417542dd20db3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6dIZVC.A.6v.jnQKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Check what MIDI CC's the Nanokontrol is sending. Try staying away from those that are listed by Roland General MIDI (GM) for general stuff as "Voum" (CC7), "Pan" (CC10), "Breath" (CC2) etc etc... Might be a dozen of those. I have not checked in detail with Ableton Live but at least Mainstage has this issue of being hard-wired to these "Mr Jones' Controllers" ;-) with no way to use them without the host application reacting. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > YOu can't "turn off" that behavior. What you can do is to not send in > the data as remote control data for Live but rather as a pipe right > into the Mobius plug-in. The place to set that up is in Live's > preferences, the "MIDI Sync" tab. The MIDI In port that you use to > control Mobius (given you control it by direct MIDI Input and not by > Live's parameter, which is what Ableton usually recommends but we > loopists don't usually prefer) should be set to "Track". The MIDI In > port that you use to control Live should be set to "Remote". When > these preferences are correct you also have to set up a MIDI Track in > Live that snags your external MIDI data, aimed for Mobius, (as the > Live track's "Input") and directs the stream into Mobius (addressing > as "Track Output" first the track that hosts Mobious and then the > plug-in Mobius). This is just the normal way of routing MIDI in Live, > well explained in Live's manual. To set up more complex routing you > may send MIDI through the OS as well (IAC Bus on a Mac and by using > the third-party hack MIDI Yoke on a Windows machine). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:18 AM, George Ludwig > wrote: >> I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of its >> parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the mapping >> for midi control. >> >> The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume control >> that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the volume of >> Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in Live, but >> still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I really just >> want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1. >> >> I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one that you >> can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn it off this >> defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches. >> >> -- >> -George >> >> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 17:16:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B843D3BE8B; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1260983782; bh=Ta2hYNBWh1Rjv/CC0NMoOhSAqOU3G62fd0TlSivdpbM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aOJ2o5TJcLJ9ogdFShFu9a66Jn/Khu6LWRXpwTh55ojvAdJ4o04n4sgAlxODlz+nS08MOF9Z9HtuJnOrRdU0xi3dyDKiOT4c10YErY67I+IQ7lQque+2+ik0yxmlJUwE8PDQz7RrdHVWilOfed+hCFb6nvTSLB1ehOi0sM9MKRE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D4VGTMuM1OAE2XuFn+M+9aEQyMD9QAincj/uMtVaRjSrZDkepbpsfDPhydZkQuYF47njGDzbE0tGo2supMq0Eh6SlLfIhDMa2QmzjXzXvawJrY2vkvV8UPQudEF7fiH3xeyxq3+AvHCJK4V7Gl5Yq/CXEq13sF/8EFBlZo1LOXg=; Message-ID: <776533.3585.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4MAqG34VM1m6q1LvAB6F27Pqb0L6tXOZBQ_VtN9Gfn021yiYFrEYEFZMmiKzHtQoWnu0pkgRw.9JygstMaKi.FDiascg25IIpK8oBBscKlYW0AC2K0PQSwWM.Ne4A6wyWSnytqS.put1IISLubX33yzRuqPUxisG2um0aO1G0LWZdohp.PxscWUd3faqqwAnuo.wwgXFoNeg.MNg_f8VqX6RzEikawG7WmEWoAxhB0xABdwi0oxdTIkSsoDv_ghr3YML9bDj1IkpdBC9zKsLn2A4hqI5WEYCQEwrSzjQq8FLbBb3U3WXd7QysJymaTAkOnrgGOMwTyOdfYuZh7AFbcVhsQc69k2pZYqieQSJ.NQy6RodMpmiIYrRCH2ldUp.RXSYEZ4a06G_0PjrdlXyfDoukRBYTEx7Pe_H.L3DcuzV3DjIWPHFi.l6TGGgpkgd5isu2Gc- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: ? re: digitech echo plus (bit rate)? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-305215378-1260983782=:3585" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-305215378-1260983782=:3585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ok, i was watching a youtube vid on a guy demoing a digitech echo plus (is that the pds 8000? not sure). anyway, the things it could do were kind of cool 8 sec of delay, came out in the late 80's (i know frisell has used one in place of his old EH 16 DDL),... he was showing the main features of it, slapback echo (he seemed to be into the "rockabilly sound"-played some real twangy reverse strat so he looked like a sort of righty hendrix, he was kind of funny), and i think he did a longer echo demo, then did a bit showing the 8 sec sample format (he of course didn't show enough of that, which i wanted to see!!!!). someone on another forum i check (the gear page) was talking about this unit can do the funny pitch changes by playing w/ the time knob (i think?)-and said that's one thing the frisell exploits greatly. anyway, my question: the echo plus demo funny man said-that the device uses 8-bit vs. the nowadays most digital pedals use 24-bit. could someone explain this to me. i mean sound-wise i thought the echo plus sounded great. i know there's been talk of this before here, (i probably tuned out), i'm just going on what i heard heard from the vid (i'm sure not pristine quality) but it all sounded good to me.... thanks, s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0-305215378-1260983782=:3585 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

ok, i was watching a youtube vid on a guy demoing a digitech echo plus (is that the pds 8000? not sure).
anyway, the things it could do were kind of cool 8 sec of delay, came out in the late 80's (i know frisell has used one in place of his old EH 16 DDL),...

he was showing the main features of it, slapback echo (he seemed to be into the "rockabilly sound"-played some real twangy reverse strat so he looked like a sort of righty hendrix, he was kind of funny), and i think he did a longer echo demo, then did a bit showing the 8 sec sample format (he of course didn't show enough of that, which i wanted to see!!!!). someone on another forum i check (the gear page) was talking about this unit can do the funny pitch changes by playing w/ the time knob (i think?)-and said that's one thing the frisell exploits greatly.
anyway, my question:
the echo plus demo funny man said-that the device uses 8-bit vs. the nowadays most digital pedals use 24-bit. could someone explain this to me. i mean sound-wise i thought the echo plus sounded great. i know there's been talk of this before here, (i probably tuned out), i'm just going on what i heard heard from the vid (i'm sure not pristine quality) but it all sounded good to me....

thanks,
s---
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--0-305215378-1260983782=:3585-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 17:31:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCE443BE8D; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 289821.22556.bm@omp109.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1260984702; bh=H70WWPBOHXo/hxgAbxon0f9yaWeTqssQIR6GmexCes8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fyN5GdUQRZKrArgdaSs6z7h9/7PS5iVDK47XS2TypPSToioxzKCKsC8O0bqOc08pZ/nu5G0zsWXmx+cRUHAmBMAIbSgTI0K/y81CzuGd+OhK5WyMOmPGPfXxrZyoDRUHGDU/s+lZZwhSJsl3NWTkX8fMzY7Ru9sOZDPQCzhIrrI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) hello=0A=0Aantony poet composer performer currently living in France, I als= o use looping onstage but almost never in the studio. =0AI have been using = delqys and loops on my voice for a very long time but when i record I=A0pre= fer to have more detqiled control=A0and only use a=A0frozen loop here and t= here, left over from a late night solo Jam.=0A=0Awww.antonyhequet.com=0Awww= ..mund.fr=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Matthias Grob =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Wed, Dec= ember 16, 2009 12:49:27 PM=0ASubject: Re: looping and the public and catego= rization=0A=0Ayouhou, Zoe!=0A=0AOn 15 Dec 2009, at 21:50, Zoe Keating wrote= :=0A=0A> you're right of course matthias. my work would not be at all the s= ame if i hadn't stumbled onto looping. the tools have directly influenced m= y "style"!=0A> =0A> a coda, and then i really will shut up.....=0A=0Aplease= don't... :-)=0A> =0A> i was just thinking about all this categorization bu= siness and realize that a huge part of my career strategy is to never categ= orize myself. if if makes sense: i very actively avoid categorization!=0A= =0AI hate it, too. sit into a drawer is dangerous because someone might clo= se it :-)=0Athen again, if the others put the category on you, it might be = worse=0Aand if the record shops don't distribute your record because they d= on't know where to put it...=0A> =0A> i avoid appealing specifically to any= one group, even if i am certainly connected to it: loopers, cellists, comp= uter nerds, DIYers, steampunks, goths, ravers, indie rockers, public radio = fans, tall female freckled redheads with dreadlocks, etc. i prefer to be th= e only fish in my pond. if another fish moves in i tend to move out and mak= e another pond. so i think my perceived rejection of "looping" is related t= o this.=A0 (i don't know if that's really a strategy. i've done this my ent= ire life and it might just be my quirky personality)=0A=0Aok, this answers = most of my question!=0Aand I am not going to discuss your personality and s= uch, but maybe we can think together about the details of such behavior - w= hich is not so special, most artists have this energy, its part of what mak= es us interesting...=0Aso I am asking anyone here who feels similar:=0A=0A1= =0Aas you say, there are categories you put yourself by what you do and loo= k.=0Athere is no need to mention that you play cello and like fire power ha= ir (I love it!...), because its on any picture of yours.=0A(you could have = chosen half long brown hair and a nylon guitar which would have put you muc= h less into a category, but by trying to choose a non category you fell int= o a stronger one :-)=0Aon some pictures its even visible that you use compu= ters, but its hard to see that you loop in the computer=0Ahence the idea th= at you checking email at soundcheck or use a prerecorded load of cellos. :-= )=0A(in the past, a specialist could spot a Repeater, but the main public o= nly knows 'cello' and 'electronic')=0A=0Aso: to mention that you use LiveLo= oping puts you more into a category than a picture of yours does?=0Abecause= a word is heavier than a picture?=0A(this is a main problem of the promoti= on of the LL idea: its not really visible)=0A=0A2=0ASince you don't like to= feel in a category, you don't like if others put you in one?=0Aas a conseq= uence:=0AIf we finally come around to list the LL musicians (which is not e= asy, thats why we did not do it yet, but the youtube.com/livelooping playli= st end up being such a list already) would you prefer not to be on the list= ?=0Ayou really want me to take you out of the *Featured Instrumentalists* ?= =0Adamdidamdidam...=0A=0Asince we are a bunch of artist here, we don't need= to be logical,=0AI feel we all love to mention you even if you don't menti= on us :-)=0A=0A> lastly....99% of the people who license my music have NO i= dea that i even perform live. and as i don't employ live looping in my reco= rdings, for those who know me only from a recording, live looping would jus= t be confusing.=0A=0Aoh, thats another interesting point! And this is proba= bly rather rare... does any one know of another artist who uses LL on stage= but multitracking for the recording of the same compositions?=0A=0Athere a= re so many categories of LiveLooping artist... even not considering the mus= ical style, just by the way or intensity of use...=0A=0Alove=0AMatthias=0A>= =0A> respect! z=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Matthias G= rob wrote:=0A> =0A>> On 13 Dec 2009, at 19:51, Zoe Keating wrote:=0A>>> if = all the electricity disappeared tomorrow, i could still perform, but i'd ha= ve to hire 8+ cellists to play the music (which is actually how looping sta= rted for me, i couldn't find enough cellists).=0A>> =0A>> oh, sorry, Zoe, I= did not know you started with the compositions and then only needed a tool= to execute them.=0A>> and looping did not bring you new ideas? would your = compositions really be the same if you had no looper but 8+ cellists?=0A>> = If so, I suspect you are rather an exception, or does anyone know of other = composers who use looping tools like this?=0A>> =0A>>> it would sound diffe= rent because its not me, but an ensemble of cellists could easily play my m= usic.=0A>> =0A>> sure. which sound would you prefer?=0A>> =0A>>> no electri= city needed. i've already heard 2 groups do it.=0A>>> =0A>>> i also know of= two high profile cellists who perform music with pre-recorded cello tracks= and them solo'ing in front. (i.e. no live looping)=0A>>> =0A>>> most peopl= e think that we all do the same thing (including their publicists). it irri= tates me, but tells me that its not the live looping that people are hearin= g.=0A>> =0A>> ...which might be a reason for you to use the label LiveLoopi= ng more intensely and for me to finally bring the Livelooping.org site up t= o date with all I wrote and joined this year so anyone can easily look up w= hat its about. And we should make a special chapter for composers who use t= he tool to execute what they imagine without the tool, as opposed to the ma= jority who gather ideas for compositions by playing with the tool and then = possibly execute them with a group without the tool.=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> = =0A>>> On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Grob wrote:=0A>>> =0A>>>> you= r music would not be done in any other way, would it?=0A>>> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 17:40:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 379323BE91; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=NjeODJvjpUhAdqB5Aln9qUFgeUbNTzcilCYHmGWjCdw=; b=LwD3LPGWM9usjH++lUjym0nXvfQdedSxP4OiuCGoFNV3mWVvEjA5mFytwFY79Ndms5 3nW+/mA72B6BIrLZI82LhE5idEz8RNcqMPJsHb/4c56/I40YOJibDsKSdWtUT6F2sO0O JqlmJ7OHDpgMRFOV6vZyE4oNAjGDO8IlbvIsk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cbD+HUADL3YxSTUTtCEydqXHRjbcGXXFXh7nJ/GXqNqrwnNSrZGg408gu46TA56+T+ iV2EkMp0n00RByXLuEmpEA+RTK9hceSKHW4+wL6xOdqkOWavZr1yVfUKI1db3/TZJVVT LpjzU1EsIl0jEmEA0lCCbQaUhmnuzaxpdduFE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:40:08 -0500 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b0912160940t3710332bx7fb8c45bf6297f1d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping and the public and categ From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:40:12 +0000 (UTC) I've got a couple of silly questions about this gi-normous discussion. They may indeed be silly or pointless, or even in the wrong direction. But, they've been bugging me the last couple days. I am aware of both the variety of methods and genres that encompass LiveLooping and considering that: 1)Do you really mean "brand" or do you mean to simply make more popular? 2)If to brand something, LiveLooping seems more of a description than a brand name. Why not continue branding LD? I mean, that's a cool name that could also encompass many things. I guess this would bring up other questions like: is LD only for the musicians that are into Looping? Would the owner of the website and listServe be ok or mad at that? Would that just lead to more spam on the list? which brings me to something that I don't know (and forgive me if I'm supposed to, I've owned and EDP for about 1 year and been on this list even less). 3) @Rick - Why did you or what was the reasoning for naming your Fest Y2K? I mean it's a cool name and all. But, to continue branding the LL thing, would it not be better to include the words in the title of your Fest? 4) which is more of an example of: What would be so bad about something like the title followed by the description, which would offer up different opps and flexibility? Like: Loopers-Delight presents: Ambient Trance or Loopers-Delight presents: Acapella/Vox or Loopers-Delgiht presents: whatever genre or methodology I'm not really sure the general public chases down a loop concert as much as an artist w/ a particular sound that they like who happens to loop. And I think a fest would actually be more popular with a singular or more closly related genres (in some cases - not all). Anyway, I'm sure I've stepped on a lot of toes here. Sorry if I stirred the pot. Just some random thoughts from a guy posts quite randomly. -AG From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 18:05:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B3CC3BE8D; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 704 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:05:11 UTC Message-Id: <8373EA16-CFCD-41F1-B667-7B875251B751@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3B33DD1C-A65F-4537-92F5-29883C46C5E5@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: looping and the public and categorization Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:53:19 -0800 References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <95788E8C-67E8-4B55-8DA8-2E122E7ACA4F@gmail.com> <3fa302e30912100949wb58a6f5r7e17bb430a6dd5ad@mail.gmail.com> <4B229336.4050206@tiscali.co.uk> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com> <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> <3B33DD1C-A65F-4537-92F5-29883C46C5E5@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: e676e09a-ea6b-11de-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRbfT4bDBpo UEhAUlNVHgBrCx4A SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQK OgwvamoGYmZoYGhR UkFdd00BdgRMKx9M O00qBXVffGQGMi99 T1c5bnVpZW8FdngN SFFddl8Ee0tZVjo7 QAgDGzpnFEsJDzkz IlQ+N1QYHU1ZO0M+ eVAoRV8XNAUTGARC HkZLaAAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:05:11 +0000 (UTC) i'm always happy and grateful to be on any list that anyone makes!!! of course. there are many out there already (lists of non-classical cellists, for example). i'm just saying that i don't actively try to call out those categories in my biography or press. On Dec 16, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > 2 > Since you don't like to feel in a category, you don't like if others > put you in one? > as a consequence: > If we finally come around to list the LL musicians (which is not > easy, thats why we did not do it yet, but the youtube.com/ > livelooping playlist end up being such a list already) would you > prefer not to be on the list? > you really want me to take you out of the *Featured > Instrumentalists* ? > damdidamdidam... > > since we are a bunch of artist here, we don't need to be logical, > I feel we all love to mention you even if you don't mention us :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 18:08:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AFEF3BE91; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1144 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:08:07 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=muoGttBdXpEqT38BDDAihT6gTu5ZXozT7l8bSwQ/hqqOcha0epfuiKr9Y9NCmEOR; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <776533.3585.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <776533.3585.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:48:52 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: ? re: digitech echo plus (bit rate)? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec792a3d7dfe778457cc5348717fc7827cbf350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.132 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:08:08 +0000 (UTC) The major difference between 8 bit and 24 bit word width as it applies to audio fidelity is in the dynamic range and signal to noise ratio. With an 8 bit data path you can achieve about 48dB of dynamic range and with a 24 bit system 144 dB . In a looper, the signal to noise and dynamic range will degrade by about 6dB each time the signal is recirculated (the HOLD function will simply keep the data in memory and no further degradation will occur). The old EH and Digitech DDL loopers also used a variable sampling rate, which is how the pitch of the loop is changed. In digital audio the signal to noise ratio and distortion are improved by about 3dB each time you double the sampling rate. A modern device wil typically sample the audio at 44,100 samples per second, and the digitech and EH boxes can sample at rates as low as 3-6kHz, you can hear the aliasing (crunchy HF didsortion) readily at those sample rates. >ok, i was watching a youtube vid on a guy demoing a digitech echo >plus (is that the pds 8000? not sure). >anyway, the things it could do were kind of cool 8 sec of delay, >came out in the late 80's (i know frisell has used one in place of >his old EH 16 DDL),... > >he was showing the main features of it, slapback echo (he seemed to >be into the "rockabilly sound"-played some real twangy reverse strat >so he looked like a sort of righty hendrix, he was kind of funny), >and i think he did a longer echo demo, then did a bit showing the 8 >sec sample format (he of course didn't show enough of that, which i >wanted to see!!!!). someone on another forum i check (the gear page) >was talking about this unit can do the funny pitch changes by >playing w/ the time knob (i think?)-and said that's one thing the >frisell exploits greatly. >anyway, my question: >the echo plus demo funny man said-that the device uses 8-bit vs. the >nowadays most digital pedals use 24-bit. could someone explain this >to me. i mean sound-wise i thought the echo plus sounded great. i >know there's been talk of this before here, (i probably tuned out), >i'm just going on what i heard heard from the vid (i'm sure not >pristine quality) but it all sounded good to me.... > >thanks, >s--- >www.myspace.com/scotthansen -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 18:08:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7DDF3BE92; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <684DF472-AD5A-4CDB-8C27-FE3165809C9A@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: referencing back to loopers Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:08:36 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 08ec1d3a-ea6e-11de-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRbfT4bDBpo UEhAUlNaHgVgCx8J SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQK O0YGYCwGbWNha2BR V0lfOQNcJVBLKhwU dwUuUiYQYGRTM2do RwViemhpZ28BdHxf ElFWIEQITEgGBDM6 TBEEEn0lFEYGDzk0 ZxghLUYRBl15 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:08:42 +0000 (UTC) For all my protests against categorization... I get tons of requests to tell how I do what I do. Since my setups seems to change every 5 minutes, I've never gotten around to making a page. I just tell everyone "I learned everything I know from people on the the Loopers Delight list". Maybe I should be doing a better job to direct newbies to the right place? What is the right place? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 16 18:11:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F71A3BE9E; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1821 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:11:44 UTC Message-Id: <5D2B2A67-F5E4-4258-90F5-E24401254FC3@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--789763222 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:41:18 -0800 References: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 38c74d7a-ea6a-11de-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRbfT4bDBpo UEhAUlNVHgFpCx4B SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQK OhgtdWQGY2RnaWFR U0hRdE1XeFBNektC O00qBXVcfGQGMi99 T1c5bnVpZW8FdngN SFFddl8Ee0tZVjIx ThQDGzpnAkwZR20X LgIrbhYQEUgYL0Eu eVAmX04CNBtaDwRG B0BLD0cA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:11:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--789763222 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hm, i've never come across a default midi mapping in Live! surely it would show up in the midi map? i do know that messages running through Live to a plugin get changed to channel 1 (why, i do not know). so i make sure to reserve channel 1 to control my plugins (sooperlooper in my case), and then control everything in Live on some other channel (again, in my case, external messages come and go on channel 9 and the IAC midi on channel 16). On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:18 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of > its parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do > the mapping for midi control. > > The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume > control that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to > control the volume of Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi > volume mappings in Live, but still, Live insists on changing the > volume of track 1 when I really just want to change the volume of > Mobius' track 1. > > I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one > that you can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I > turn it off this defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches. > > -- > -George > > http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > --Apple-Mail-2--789763222 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hm, i've never come across a = default midi mapping in Live! surely it would show up in the midi = map?

i do know that messages running through Live to a = plugin get changed to channel 1 (why, i do not know). so i make sure to = reserve channel 1 to control my plugins (sooperlooper in my case), and = then control everything in Live on some other channel (again, in my = case, external messages come and go on channel 9 and the IAC midi on = channel = 16).

On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:18 PM, George Ludwig = wrote:

I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to = control some of its parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, = Mobius lets me do the mapping for midi control.
The problem is, = when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume control that I have = mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the volume of Live's = track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in Live, but still, = Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I really just want = to change the volume of Mobius' track 1.
I've heard that Live has = a default midi mapping, besides the one that you can edit, and it seems = like this is the culprit. How do I turn it off this defualt behavior?! = This is giving me major headaches.

-- =
-George

http://www.myspace.com/g= eorgeludwigmusic

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I have been using loopers live for 10 yrs but purely as a way to create the parts I can only play with one pair of hands, and at times to play pre-recorded loops I can't create live. =20 I would certainly make a distinction between live looping as a way of making music, and looping as a way of performing music live. In the years I've been playing this way I've had quite a few people ask how I do it and what I use to perform, showing that even people into the genre of music I make are unaware of how it is made/performed. As for how to promote a live-looping festival, I guess it would have to be done based on some sort of genre approach, tho what you would do with that I don't know as I have myself been described variously as post-rock, ambient, electronica, shoegaze and drone (amongst others) and don't think I fit with any of them. On the 'loop-station' subject, if you look at the Roland site and see the videos of the contestants in their looping competition, there's a huge variety of styles from beatboxing to singer song writer and most things in-between (not all good!). It has made the concept of looping more widely known, but tells you nothing of the sort of music to expect from a 'looper'. On a bit of a tangent, but with a link, the trailer of the new George Clooney movie features music from Charles Atlas, who both Zo=EB and I = have played with (at different times) and who use looping both in the studio and live (there's one song in the trailer and another in the movie I'm told)... Highly recommended. That's my ramblings for today. 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(antipaganda) From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for articulating this point Mathias, its really gotten me thinking (so much so in fact I dreamt I was explaining this point to a friend of mine last night while I slept). I have been looping for a long time now and generally improvising while I do so. I enjoy the process very much, but always find myself uneasy with the result. People are talking about what labels and categories their music fall in to (or out of) but I find myself wondering at times if "Music" is even the right category for what I'm doing. The idea that this process may be primarily about inducing a trance is very appealing to me and explains some of my quandary in thinking about this music of mine. Its not a huge concern for me since I'm not attempting to earn a living doing this nor am I ever likely to, but I do think about doing this for a potential audience now and again and I find that thinking in terms of the presentation of a potential trance is both easier and more difficult. I'm not really sure how you would entice people into that experience, but I think I'm more comfortable trying to do that than I am in trying to present myself as performing musician. In my case, the 'music' is secondary to what goes on while its being created. So anyway, thanks for that perspective and yes, I truly do enjoy the fact that it does work and I can produce my own trance. Kevin On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > Let me start with an example of my own experience: > > I have mainly been playing with non musicians in a group of up to 25 > improvising happy noise making people. > It worked amazingly well! For those who did it regularly, it was like a > spiritual shower, leaving us fresh and optimistic, with a different body > feeling and so on, while others came the first time and in the end had a > huge smile on the face, saying: "I did not know I was able to play music!" > but: > I never recorded that music. Many asked me to, but in the middle of the > trance I sometimes put my daily ears back on, just to realize that we were > mostly making noise, out of tune, boring... so I did not want to disappoint > anyone about it and left the great impression we had when the REAL energy > was flowing and bringing us together, which is the essence, much more > important than the recording. > > I then learned from it, that with solo looping I went through a similar > process. I liked my first recordings and the trance went on all day while > designing the looping tools, I did not care/notice that my friends did not > like the recordings so much. > Doing it live, I sometimes managed to spread the trance over some public and > they became fascinated. After years even over a bigger public. Then, > finally, a few people went off with my recordings - also because I carefully > edited them all, taking out wrong notes, boring parts, and more and more the > "experimental" parts, too, observing that the fans did not like them (a big > advantage of selling cassette tapes: you can visit a client and look where > he stopped your music :-) > But after all those years of free music of mine on the net and a CD on CD > baby and what not, the word of mouth is still not spreading my music - > because its not good enough! > > So: > there is a very long way from serious trance producing art to something that > people actually buy. > we have been talking a lot about commercial music and how bad it is and how > successful musicians have to bend... > I see it different now: > don't bend your personality, play your real trance thing, but so well that > people can understand and follow it, even if they are not in a room with > you! > or accept that it only works live > or only with a few friends > or only by yourself > BUT: enjoy that it DOES work, its an amazing gift to be able to produce your > own trance !! > > (I am using "trance" in a more open way, following http://trance.org) > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 00:31:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53D4A3BE8A; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B297BC8.8070608@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:31:04 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: The Branding of Live Looping was: looping and the public and categ....... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8smFoD.A.mqF.MvXKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:31:08 +0000 (UTC) AG asked about branding: */" @Rick - Why did you or what was the reasoning for naming your Fest Y2K? I mean it's a cool name and all. But, to continue branding the LL thing, would it not be better to include the word in the title of your Fest?" /*Hi AG, I don't know how long you've been in the community, but if you've been on Loopers Delight for more than a few years you probably would have noticed all the posts I made about the Y2K9 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL which is the official name of the looping festival. The first of this series of festivals was in 2001 but I started calling it the Y2K2 LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL in 2002 and I believe added the INTERNATIONAL part of the moniker in 2003 as people from other countries started flying in to perform from other countries. Next years 10th anniversary and last very large festival for me will be called the Y2K-X 10th ANNIVERSARY INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL which is really a mouthful, but I want the nature of it (particularly the fact that we made it to 10 years with this festival) prominently in the first sentence of every press release. We decided for the website to shorten the festival name to www.Y2Kloopfest.com for ease of memory when giving the URL to someone but if you go to the website (have you ever been) it always clearly states what the name of the festival is each year. I have since day one, in point of fact since you mention branding, really pushed the notion and the actual branding of Live Looping. I've done so, specifically, because this community of musicians that has built up really do differ from the musicians (such as hip hop and other eletronica forms) who use static loops in their production and play them, pre-recorded in their performances. As a matter of course, I turn down artists who don't have a significant amount of live looping in their content each year (much to the chagrin of some artists who are dying for a gig). I've been a stickler for this 'branding' because it was the easiest way in my area to sell the idea to both the press, radio, venues and the public. It was brand new so I had to really work hard to get that particular branding out there. Now, I'm happy to say, it is completely accepted where I live (and the concept has spread to many different festivals that have occurred around the world since I started trying to promote this notion). I've been successfully involved in the promotion of several different musical movements in my long career as a professional musician and community organizer where I live. What I've found is that a brand has to be very simple and require the least amount of explanation in order for it to be accepted. It's always best whether selling a product or a notion of musical community, style or genre to include what you are doing in your brand. Working with people with no knowledge of something precludes you being able to reach them within one sentence I have found. LIVE LOOPING as a brand has worked well for me in this regard. That being said and done, we have a universal community and people have different social customs and languages in their communities. What works for me in my publicity or attempts to get this notion across to the populace in Santa Cruz which is a very hip and sophisticated town, musically speaking (hell, only 50,000 people and we've at various times had Universal Audio, EMU Systems, Antares, Cycling 74, Creative and many other innovative music companies located here) might not work, as Gareth pointed out, in Wales where he lives. Having the egalitarian approach to the festival also is a notion that is really accepted and favored where I live (close to the birthplace of the original Hippy movement in Northern California). I"ve found, in my travels and attempts at spreading this notion that a lot of Europeans just don't resonate with this concept very much..............or the ones that do seem to be in a minority from my limited experience. It's all good. It's good for me to do this festival in an idiosyncratic way. It's good for Matthias to try and get his livelooping.org and youtube live looping sites off the ground and promote the way he wants to. It's good for Sjaack to want a more exclusive and narrower stylistic focus for his wonderful Antwerp festival. Years ago, when I was more idealistic and aggressive about spreading the Live Looping vibe, I think I completely alienated one European promoter because I took him to task for not being more inclusive for the really fantastic festival he produced. I really regret that now, because I realize that one, I never wanted to alienate a fellow comrade in this work and two, because I realized that his festival really galvanized the larger European live looping community and set up , in time, all the wonderful coordinated activities that are beginning to happen in Belgium, Germany, Italy and the UK. It's all good. And quite, frankly, instead of spending so much time talking about all of this stuff, I would advise that everyone who feels passionately about it should get out and produce a regional live looping concert themselves and advertise it in WHATEVER way you want. The point is that we do something. As it was said in 'Field of Dreams',. the American magical baseball movie, "If you build it, they will come" So Check out the Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival. Check the website out. Check out the many videos on youtube and remember that Jim's touching tribute to the festival is only one of many over the years and most of them were more thorough single artist and shot in hi fidelity with hi fidelity sound. Hell, come perform at it. You'll be happy you did, I promise you. respectfully, Rick Walker ********** ********** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 00:39:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB5F83BE8D; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261010382; bh=53TWaAp/Qd8aCnNWQLv2Xy8Z9kBSbIa2k0cqZqbSZnc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zHIcpEisQrMyUIJ/IIi+y6atEFTc4bKDDPdVhqwOAt50QFqqRE7QdO6YNxAUx53/WQx6w+2KuC14FiNk9zQ6ADXHVoy3BmP8PyMfUXgLZXGfV486LOJuO3bExe6g7kjVtESbFET5+T8WnlXlIsFnVgqBQvuTc2J8oddKgJL4Ljw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bld/08Rw3cyBRfoZ0LJAVw2peaok7nh+YE2yaEnrCOa9diHStCLm1O48An0d8zFwwb2QQ1dksxZ755DlNzUJMEwnSE+gii29EQpC4cstG+x0vu4K6fKiYW7n5luz1woahJ5QUF+yO/JvSECI7OPmMQhZHjGFoXV/DkXfkkI3+/A=; Message-ID: <336598.39467.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 62K6Fx4VM1mUizeaeZFQYg743YotkkzYVATdtq3olgI0ivwlYF6v81GurZPoB9cRq.Giy4ezBUjPfELklXv.V4chOcEa0TkDXT98HyTRzNIuog78RT9BUpcj24LhXGaV8I1vTH.LZccD7gKRou_JyjFf.gyLmh1Ac7Xr45ri3VKee58HyfvfY0v6Jov7emDKpEagpqcJyphal4dceFB6YrerRfdYcOwuBOYAiszbx3uD6nGERNw.EZjCswJkREnuS7S8LGFCKpwU_hJK.mEzsR2tiFAagY5Kap5D9i.KUfe_YXf9_WEf50WrR29f90gRRj4LdAghcv8xOkfUOC2_RXsetxI5cjSqtxJgIXXDfSC_NnEyd3P6GFymeHX3zNrfM0qjwXHmJjqfuvMUcW1j8PzNXZj1QQ1sVZm_mjM2xrG5UkILID_QqX0wZQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:39:42 -0800 (PST) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: Favorite 2009 music you think may have used live looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-60480687-1261010382=:39467" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:39:42 +0000 (UTC) --0-60480687-1261010382=:39467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's your favorite music=A0from 2009 you think may have used live looping= ?=0A=0ADavid =0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/undomusic =0A=0A=0A --0-60480687-1261010382=:39467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=0A=0A --0-60480687-1261010382=:39467-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 01:17:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C42623BE8A; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ba1ccd7f-2bd4-4bd4-8a86-a0bdd256ed52_" X-Originating-IP: [75.121.15.115] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: The Branding of Live Looping was: looping and the public and categ....... Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:17:31 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B297BC8.8070608@cruzio.com> References: <4B297BC8.8070608@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2009 01:17:31.0519 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4C138F0:01CA7EB6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:17:32 +0000 (UTC) --_ba1ccd7f-2bd4-4bd4-8a86-a0bdd256ed52_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Next years 10th anniversary and last very large festival for me will be=20 >called the >Y2K-X 10th ANNIVERSARY INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL last one? bummer- do you have dates lined up yet? or a general time frame? > Date: Wed=2C 16 Dec 2009 16:31:04 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: The Branding of Live Looping was: looping and the publ= ic and categ....... >=20 > AG asked about branding: >=20 > */" @Rick - Why did you or what was the reasoning > for naming your Fest Y2K? I mean it's a cool name > and all. But=2C to continue branding the LL thing=2C would it not be bett= er=20 > to include the word > in the title of your Fest?" >=20 > /*Hi AG=2C >=20 > I don't know how long you've been in the community=2C but if you've been= =20 > on Loopers Delight for more than a > few years you probably would have noticed all the posts I made about the >=20 > Y2K9 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL >=20 > which is the official name of the looping festival. The first of=20 > this series of festivals was in > 2001 but I started calling it the Y2K2 LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL in 2002 and= =20 > I believe > added the INTERNATIONAL part of the moniker in 2003 as people from other= =20 > countries started flying > in to perform from other countries. >=20 > Next years 10th anniversary and last very large festival for me will be=20 > called the > Y2K-X 10th ANNIVERSARY INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL > which is really a mouthful=2C but I want the nature of it (particularly=20 > the fact that we made it to 10 years with > this festival) prominently in the first sentence of every press release. >=20 > We decided for the website to shorten the festival name to=20 > www.Y2Kloopfest.com for ease of memory when giving the URL > to someone but if you go to the website (have you ever been) it always=20 > clearly states what the name of the festival > is each year. >=20 > I have since day one=2C in point of fact since you mention branding=2C = =20 > really pushed the notion and the actual branding of Live Looping. >=20 > I've done so=2C specifically=2C because this community of musicians that = has=20 > built up really do differ from the musicians (such as hip hop > and other eletronica forms) who use static loops in their production=20 > and play them=2C pre-recorded in their performances. >=20 > As a matter of course=2C I turn down artists who don't have a significan= t=20 > amount of live looping in their content each year (much to the chagrin > of some artists who are dying for a gig). >=20 > I've been a stickler for this 'branding' because it was the easiest way= =20 > in my area to sell the idea to both the press=2C radio=2C venues and the = public. >=20 > It was brand new so I had to really work hard to get that particular=20 > branding out there. Now=2C I'm happy to say=2C it is completely accepted= =20 > where I live > (and the concept has spread to many different festivals that have=20 > occurred around the world since I started trying to promote this notion). >=20 > I've been successfully involved in the promotion of several different=20 > musical movements in my long career as a professional musician > and community organizer where I live. What I've found is that a=20 > brand has to be very simple and require the least > amount of explanation in order for it to be accepted. It's always best= =20 > whether selling a product or a notion of musical community=2C style or ge= nre > to include what you are doing in your brand. Working with people with=20 > no knowledge of something precludes you being able > to reach them within one sentence I have found. LIVE LOOPING as a=20 > brand has worked well for me in this regard. >=20 > That being said and done=2C we have a universal community and people=20 > have different social customs and languages in their communities. > What works for me in my publicity or attempts to get this notion across=20 > to the populace in Santa Cruz which is a very hip and sophisticated=20 > town=2C musically speaking (hell=2C only 50=2C000 people and we've at va= rious=20 > times had Universal Audio=2C EMU Systems=2C Antares=2C Cycling 74=2C Crea= tive=20 > and many other innovative music companies located here) might not work=2C= =20 > as Gareth pointed out=2C in Wales where he lives. >=20 > Having the egalitarian approach to the festival also is a notion that is= =20 > really accepted and favored where I live (close to the birthplace of the > original Hippy movement in Northern California). I"ve found=2C in my=20 > travels and attempts at spreading this notion that a lot of Europeans > just don't resonate with this concept very much..............or the ones= =20 > that do seem to be in a minority from my limited experience. >=20 > It's all good. It's good for me to do this festival in an=20 > idiosyncratic way. It's good for Matthias to try and get his=20 > livelooping.org and youtube live looping > sites off the ground and promote the way he wants to. It's good for=20 > Sjaack to want a more exclusive and narrower stylistic focus for his=20 > wonderful > Antwerp festival. Years ago=2C when I was more idealistic and=20 > aggressive about spreading the Live Looping vibe=2C I think I completely > alienated one European promoter because I took him to task for not being= =20 > more inclusive for the really fantastic festival he produced. > I really regret that now=2C because I realize that one=2C I never wante= d=20 > to alienate a fellow comrade in this work and two=2C because I realized=20 > that his > festival really galvanized the larger European live looping community=20 > and set up =2C in time=2C all the wonderful coordinated activities that a= re=20 > beginning to happen > in Belgium=2C Germany=2C Italy and the UK. >=20 > It's all good. And quite=2C frankly=2C instead of spending so much t= ime=20 > talking about all of this stuff=2C > I would advise that everyone who feels passionately about it should get=20 > out and produce a regional live looping concert themselves > and advertise it in WHATEVER way you want. >=20 > The point is that we do something. As it was said in 'Field of=20 > Dreams'=2C. the American magical baseball movie=2C > "If you build it=2C they will come" >=20 > So Check out the Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival. Check the=20 > website out. Check out the many videos on youtube and remember that=20 > Jim's touching tribute to the festival is > only one of many over the years and most of them were more thorough=20 > single artist and shot in hi fidelity with hi fidelity sound. >=20 > Hell=2C come perform at it. You'll be happy you did=2C I promise you. >=20 > respectfully=2C Rick Walker >=20 > ********** > ********** >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/= --_ba1ccd7f-2bd4-4bd4-8a86-a0bdd256ed52_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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>=3B Dat= e: Wed=2C 16 Dec 2009 16:31:04 -0800
>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: The Bran= ding of Live Looping was: looping and the public and categ.......=
>=3B
>=3B AG asked about branding:
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>=3B /*Hi AG=2C
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>=3B
>=3B I've been success= fully involved in the promotion of several different
>=3B musical mov= ements in my long career as a professional musician
>=3B and community= organizer where I live. What I've found is that a
>=3B brand ha= s to be very simple and require the least
>=3B amount of explanation i= n order for it to be accepted. It's always best
>=3B whether sellin= g a product or a notion of musical community=2C style or genre
>=3B to= include what you are doing in your brand. Working with people with
&= gt=3B no knowledge of something precludes you being able
>=3B to reach= them within one sentence I have found. LIVE LOOPING as a
>=3B br= and has worked well for me in this regard.
>=3B
>=3B That being = said and done=2C we have a universal community and people
>=3B have= different social customs and languages in their communities.
>=3B Wha= t works for me in my publicity or attempts to get this notion across
&g= t=3B to the populace in Santa Cruz which is a very hip and sophisticated <= br>>=3B town=2C musically speaking (hell=2C only 50=2C000 people and we'= ve at various
>=3B times had Universal Audio=2C EMU Systems=2C Antare= s=2C Cycling 74=2C Creative
>=3B and many other innovative music comp= anies located here) might not work=2C
>=3B as Gareth pointed out=2C = in Wales where he lives.
>=3B
>=3B Having the egalitarian appro= ach to the festival also is a notion that is
>=3B really accepted and= favored where I live (close to the birthplace of the
>=3B original Hi= ppy movement in Northern California). I"ve found=2C in my
>=3B trave= ls and attempts at spreading this notion that a lot of Europeans
>=3B = just don't resonate with this concept very much..............or the ones >=3B that do seem to be in a minority from my limited experience.
&g= t=3B
>=3B It's all good. It's good for me to do this festival in= an
>=3B idiosyncratic way. It's good for Matthias to try and get hi= s
>=3B livelooping.org and youtube live looping
>=3B sites off t= he ground and promote the way he wants to. It's good for
>=3B Sjaack= to want a more exclusive and narrower stylistic focus for his
>=3B w= onderful
>=3B Antwerp festival. Years ago=2C when I was more ide= alistic and
>=3B aggressive about spreading the Live Looping vibe=2C = I think I completely
>=3B alienated one European promoter because I t= ook him to task for not being
>=3B more inclusive for the really fant= astic festival he produced.
>=3B I really regret that now=2C because = I realize that one=2C I never wanted
>=3B to alienate a fellow comra= de in this work and two=2C because I realized
>=3B that his
>=3B= festival really galvanized the larger European live looping community
= >=3B and set up =2C in time=2C all the wonderful coordinated activities t= hat are
>=3B beginning to happen
>=3B in Belgium=2C Germany=2C I= taly and the UK.
>=3B
>=3B It's all good. And quite=2C frank= ly=2C instead of spending so much time
>=3B talking about all of thi= s stuff=2C
>=3B I would advise that everyone who feels passionately ab= out it should get
>=3B out and produce a regional live looping concer= t themselves
>=3B and advertise it in WHATEVER way you want.
>=3B=
>=3B The point is that we do something. As it was said in 'Field of=
>=3B Dreams'=2C. the American magical baseball movie=2C
>=3B "= If you build it=2C they will come"
>=3B
>=3B So Check out the Y= 2K-X International Live Looping Festival. Check the
>=3B website out.= Check out the many videos on youtube and remember that
>=3B Jim's t= ouching tribute to the festival is
>=3B only one of many over the year= s and most of them were more thorough
>=3B single artist and shot in = hi fidelity with hi fidelity sound.
>=3B
>=3B Hell=2C come perfo= rm at it. You'll be happy you did=2C I promise you.
>=3B
>=3B= respectfully=2C Rick Walker
>=3B
>=3B **********
>=3B ****= ******
>=3B

Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and r= ich email service. Get it now. = --_ba1ccd7f-2bd4-4bd4-8a86-a0bdd256ed52_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 01:30:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609A13BE8F; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=lfpoE9P1rtw/oEftXTYarmTCioogkPy2UKqnPRRzDJ4=; b=K1HZvWRJNpqTLvT+EilgEU5mPQkis2EVNcaspZuhfjhNoR6+ZCZ6ZHnDUhIPXJ9VAa xDJ6R50jjAoUdmZrskjJcM1FB1coY0Z7MrYKb18bwzcq739HBci6Xj5Pk3KAh+bqgY6i 6Won3+Br4CGgwCjCCsJjRwpyVf5p//GtSD5v4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FiZAVGEM2VY29etsgVYdRzBr3xgtdN7eULJ3x+yKwgCjN3/YQiHWHQBDfQdjITxSqc w55IVwD4QKL+hMpDRSkygHtAK9RUeqxQOetqNB6MjUvDyiyzVdSOAfkUbVFbP7gckZ8v rsYPcaArW/4iFsV2WKLfublV9YJZivpPSd304= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:30:50 +0000 Message-ID: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico From: Kayla Kavanagh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7c02cc30a74047ae29291 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:30:55 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7c02cc30a74047ae29291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk http://www.kaylakavanagh.com --001485f7c02cc30a74047ae29291 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk

http://www.kaylakavanagh.com

--001485f7c02cc30a74047ae29291-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 01:48:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61A083BE91; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 297552.51317.bm@omp612.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261014528; bh=cvHwmTcKW3U713Wq39bRkScC25ccjXJE8934ZxQKFAc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K4F9Cuhw6nOU+6ZilNOOPqUUvFTQSVxVDMvbsR8TdpUpQBMwP65/wanB6IFskVUP1hZtLbdZIVYovuFwWWZBC8V9cpjuM3W9DGcxRplB2iLodxV9gHujAEsO85CTlsS/JHSoR0iwOdgLUsUffERglqTD+UHPCGyw5Q+1YkVdnuc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5iqrf2/BFHo+9lrzxpTbCMzh/9ljQzmUqbpehzt4UDDBhmrHMWFUeVdzV78IgdbrAamk90Caeh27UBTbenaOMI0hSgDYgfeUJ9kR7nhK/NIJ+fUVuPAyXm10YxyPlSBcaAxXTyiJ2oh1j1mJ44cWK9RFUwGqtvPTt/s1Qbpc2cE=; Message-ID: <72812.42737.qm@web45308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jdoE.qYVM1kbAZJvudRWkZtlwCrcLTO9XEkh8WUqEDfum7h3r8EvNsR2tkPxZx7kkben5JFDXXEcgcvQFrWaNxF7GGBJL35tAli3eJiQ4UVvxuDkPX9bjIvR2k22NsVQ4WY27hfjVL0uzaEs.3F6I46_KNTahwVLHwht8A8bvTv4LlJmOT75nVr29PM.2Vj50MqPCCS7xFdR3UvV5MK29FeDdwy09SIOJ9lP8QIQkAnDZZePIw_kVrwtKt8rvhtINMlar5XFoFtuXqpfVVzgW0Qi3TNfwqhKkPYGIUxRMOMaTqulb91FN2QVMyFK6wPm25t.DhOqepa.i4qNUgBxy_5JGAd2GuefB66wzq_luTKJ8N3ndljW2lc- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:48:47 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Favorite 2009 music you think may have used live looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <336598.39467.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:48:49 +0000 (UTC) --- On Wed, 12/16/09, david kirkdorffer wrote:=0A= =0A> What's your favorite=0A> music=A0from 2009 you think may have used liv= e looping?=0A=0AJust off the top of my head, I heard an interview/live-in-s= tudio performance by Smoke Fairies on the BBC's 'Strand' programme last wee= k that definitely had a short loop as the main building block of the tune t= hey played.=0A=0A-t-=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 02:04:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3B3A3BE91; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=QJTTZH9rMUg3WtOXryD16JlMdeQRRzhe7Ymd7ZGCw+FrowaPKisW1ZPywW9t4g3r; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <7554974.1261015473204.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:04:33 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Favorite 2009 music you think may have used live looping Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd486efc761fc94baa0bc02b837ddee59c7e937de48b32926e61350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:04:33 +0000 (UTC) ----Original Message----- From: david kirkdorffer Sent: Dec 16, 2009 7:39 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Favorite 2009 music you think may have used live looping What's your favorite music from 2009 you think may have used live looping? David http://www.myspace.com/undomusic I gotta goe w/ S T A N O S A U R on Halloween using his trustee PDS 8000:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWErrD07rZU From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 02:20:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47F413BE91; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1QQUTfc5gPMA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=s_tXU9uwAAAA:8 a=Sn5k7GVXigdXnX41N8EA:9 a=nEtwj-9M3HMTapPuuJY9HyHIhS4A:4 Message-Id: <56CAB15F-8A2F-4A48-8DC6-EBA3469CD2A3@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:20:22 -0800 References: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Very interesting Kayla. Thanks for posting that. Cheers, Ted On Dec 16, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk > > http://www.kaylakavanagh.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 03:38:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEBAE3BE92; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=TK0x/y0L4jmSJZqS4D0UEEBvISRdJZqZ1Z2Lh4GFouA=; b=FTH3jxza1kyDVmBMxaMrR85TL+s7nCdlPE03nDrZcIatfCK78NzUW4es0W5f4+59yK Cfg7bQfIgn9vBdw4rEbbEvOgsLFMKWNFn2s8UhtWr5AVFfd1DM9phSx04g305PVUmrzk qsmUY9WnEQwAV8bPnpEAgReQsOc68zmka7NWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=SKRhdRY7GCNugMx4L1RRBq/zlSbgM1smdpB6IeR+3MPkrlgv5O1lBFJDDs697Ghr93 pmzHEoArkOeZDSwwhNMeM0lR5qWbgqCrY//FqZmhdKC9t2G1cPPEGLIan21RnKG1tQL/ 3XX0IuqOS0fMXz6VRv/q9NPbK7qr/QMu9LgGA= From: "Tony K" To: References: <336598.39467.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <336598.39467.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Favorite 2009 music you think may have used live looping Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:38:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000301ca7eca$5c6d7010$15485030$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA7EA0.73976810" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acp+sW+XtZeLCywMSYqgBC0AVFBZHAAGNdfA Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:38:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA7EA0.73976810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adrian Belew Power Trio - e. Wonderful stuff. Tony From: david kirkdorffer [mailto:unstrungone@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:40 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Favorite 2009 music you think may have used live looping What's your favorite music from 2009 you think may have used live looping? David http://www.myspace.com/undomusic ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA7EA0.73976810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Adrian Belew Power Trio – e. =

Wonderful stuff.

Tony

From:= david = kirkdorffer [mailto:unstrungone@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:40 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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What's your favorite music from 2009 you think may have used live = looping?

David

http://www.myspace.com/undomusi= c

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA7EA0.73976810-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 04:11:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D2C63BE97; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4ca87ffa5666cb06f8a92d970c223d3d.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:11:47 -0800 Subject: Re: [AH] FS: analog Effects, Drum machine, Synths, Stuff. Cool and priced for the 'olidays From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Quick update: The Univox drum machine has been sold (like 20 times over if I had 20 of them!) The Zvex euro is also gone. Nibbles on the others but no one has pulled the trigger so if you want something please let me know ASAP. I have two fresh DAED feedback synths in stock which will probably be my last two of the year. Also one "Juicy wah" ultra modded and growling crybaby wah @ $85. See the http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/daed.htm for demos and details. Thanks! D_ > A few very cool analog goodies for sale. Some old stuff at lower prices > and new stuff too. > > 1.Ibanez AD202 rack analog delay. $225. The best IMNSHO. I have two and am > keeping the other. > > 2. Original 1970s EH Big Muff Pi Fuzz. $165. EH3003 With original box. > Nice. > > 3. Univox analog Drum machine. $SOLD Poor man's CR78. Sweet all analog > tones doing the cha-cha and more. Be kraftwerk, Suicide, or yourself. > Built heavy and strong like the Atlantic City lounge performers it was > made for. > > > 4. Music from Outer Space Sound Lab. ONLY $275!!! Fully assembled with > case and internal PS. built by BlueLantern with some mods by me. All sorts > of upgrades including timing mods, fine tunes for both VCOs, CV/gate in, > etc etc. You won't find another all analog two vco, noise, filtered knob > ridden synth like this for this price kids! > > 5. Vox Brian May amp - $135 VBM-1 special amp. signature sounds of the > "deacy" amp Brian May used on many queen recordings with his special > treble booster circuit built in. > > More pedals, Euro Zvex Fuzz Factory module, Synths, circuit bent stuff > etc. > > Full info and pictures on all the above and more: > http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm > > I take USPS MO or paypal (buyer pays fees). Pick up in Phila pa or pay > actual shipping costs and will pack well for free. > > Any questions drop me an email. Thanks for looking > > D_ -- ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 04:31:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70F0A3BE94; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5756 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:31:04 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1QQUTfc5gPMA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=s_tXU9uwAAAA:8 a=XfOpJxtLIi29i4DPb7sA:9 a=ChZc0GnxsF9HBeX5vcuMOEtGj5EA:4 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.190.240.225 Message-ID: <4B299E6A.4050904@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:58:50 -0500 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico References: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk > > http://www.kaylakavanagh.com > It looks like you're playing the thing in some kind of constrained-to-scale mode. Can it be played chromatically as well? If so, how is the fingering laid out for that? Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 05:02:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A29703BE99; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=OCjaQx4cpVZJcXaqH9uV6KFRXhUkPre+M2v7Jo+hUeVumch6AAUNgrE1fpYZ5MwkIoouFiG1FH49MOezJVye5qofuRr96yFR2klsonym02vS101J3tKBvxUMWehEv73KF81MY9m1q/GFk/Rss+Lq6HLexaqOQMRA2s2q1AcaWi0= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: u1NznsgVM1lJmwHVivI__P4psTfyxcxKhd7QmLtg6.hPl26TNnafhUbzLGuGtjjIeCzLg33HhyCyId.eSY2WZ_8MadyO3gI_.WaM1kwzuoA0KL8JixZqQV0CTkQHswzof5s94F6qXJ68STuBj_xb85x1CgKYcC9HzZ7ocfXcwtvJEVMu4v5H9zty2fo4KxWTzBldmRSbck45TJcUHT.sZdu1iGrs5L04w9o5Sn7jjkX5jVTJTkHTF1Yj75m4Pu94S_2DUcvKro91w2o2SWMqYnLiZnxf5fD7JFu5o0kRXtHXZ9ZwGA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <1318f21d0912152218j58a9f211q9f61cd601596d867@mail.gmail.com> <5D2B2A67-F5E4-4258-90F5-E24401254FC3@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:02:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DF_01CA7ED6.23E43560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:02:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01CA7ED6.23E43560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's all about the scripts - = http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/29/download-free-korg-nanopad-nanok= ontrol-scripts-for-ableton-live/ Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Zoe Keating=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:41 PM Subject: Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping hm, i've never come across a default midi mapping in Live! surely it = would show up in the midi map? i do know that messages running through Live to a plugin get changed = to channel 1 (why, i do not know). so i make sure to reserve channel 1 = to control my plugins (sooperlooper in my case), and then control = everything in Live on some other channel (again, in my case, external = messages come and go on channel 9 and the IAC midi on channel 16). On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:18 PM, George Ludwig wrote: I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of = its parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the = mapping for midi control. The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume = control that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control = the volume of Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings = in Live, but still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when = I really just want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1. I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one = that you can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn = it off this defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches. --=20 -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01CA7ED6.23E43560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's all about the scripts - http://createdigitalmusic.com/2= 009/07/29/download-free-korg-nanopad-nanokontrol-scripts-for-ableton-live= /

Ricky

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Zoe = Keating=20

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, = 2009 5:41=20 PM

Subject: Re: dealing with Live, = default=20 control mapping

hm, i've never come across a default midi mapping in = Live!=20 surely it would show up in the midi map?

i do know that messages running through Live to a plugin get = changed to=20 channel 1 (why, i do not know). so i make sure to reserve channel 1 to = control=20 my plugins (sooperlooper in my case), and then control everything in = Live on=20 some other channel (again, in my case, external messages come and go = on=20 channel 9 and the IAC midi on channel 16).

On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:18 PM, George Ludwig wrote:

I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of = its=20 parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the = mapping=20 for midi control.

The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume = control=20 that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the = volume of=20 Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in Live, = but=20 still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I really = just=20 want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1.

I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one = that you=20 can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn it = off this=20 defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches.

--=20
-George

http://www.myspace.com/= georgeludwigmusic

------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01CA7ED6.23E43560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 06:15:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C7303BE8B; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Yx/sq3mULA2+qv6IkavHTb7kPhF7UQEQwIZMAiPi+PY=; b=Wy1hZPV1J8ARidJlYG4wtJvrOolJWQQZa7Chbzvr9IJyd7AiQ6/uNpnxxfLgEM40bv QLF91wfFtTqONFqNtjU0GIPrr2BFMVDk2nkyFQHlWn8fGAzuHTkQo9Pu/XnvRy8oR7uT UtmuRdfgn3Vi0p2iudDUkVfZRnEErl3t/dLME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=G+7ZH+F+BlnyWFAOXmTn3ljJqMCoD8d4NWRSVUtusESH/naHZvGe4ZYwoMi0VlKrrm AZ4m0tbC7LSMLo5uOALabEayrYjiSXlcv2cnEi6aZHQotTDIp4+oZguPuYCZRRY3ECag YnrJi642gWURElhkuJ+wNi4PP6dfHaPZSBDq4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: essejlc@gmail.com Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:15:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4d83bebe4292c31c Message-ID: Subject: ThumbJam - my new iPhone/iPod sampler instrument app From: Jesse Chappell To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:15:11 +0000 (UTC) I just wanted to let everyone know about my new iPhone/iPod touch app, ThumbJam. I think it might be interesting to a lot of you folks. Here's part of the blurb from the site ( http://thumbjam.com ) : "ThumbJam is a brand-new musical performance experience for iPhone and iPod Touch. You get over 30 high-quality real instruments multi-sampled exclusively for this app. Hundreds of included scales allow you to effortlessly play in any style from rock to classical, whether you are a musical novice or a seasoned professional." Of course, it also has looping :) But the samples are what really sets it apart. Of special interest to this list: Zoe Keating recorded the cello samples, Steve Bingham recorded the violin, and Todd Matthews recorded the double bass. The string section is definitely one of the highlights, thank you guys! Check out the example audio on the site (more videos coming soon), and tell your friends about it. The App Store direct link is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/thumbjam/id338977566?mt=8 jlc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 08:01:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECA6A3BE92; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_14e0e3b5-bc34-4832-9bb2-814e13bb0eef_" X-Originating-IP: [86.133.140.237] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: ThumbJam - my new iPhone/iPod sampler instrument app Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:01:24 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2009 08:01:24.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[210241C0:01CA7EEF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:01:25 +0000 (UTC) --_14e0e3b5-bc34-4832-9bb2-814e13bb0eef_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool app Jesse. Getting close to the amazing chaosillator - something = I've wanted for a while... g > Date: Thu=2C 17 Dec 2009 01:15:10 -0500 > Subject: ThumbJam - my new iPhone/iPod sampler instrument app > From: jesse@essej.net > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I just wanted to let everyone know about my new iPhone/iPod touch app=2C > ThumbJam. I think it might be interesting to a lot of you folks. > Here's part of the blurb from the site ( http://thumbjam.com ) : >=20 > "ThumbJam is a brand-new musical performance experience for iPhone and > iPod Touch. > You get over 30 high-quality real instruments multi-sampled > exclusively for this app. Hundreds of included scales allow you to > effortlessly play in any style from rock to classical=2C whether you are > a musical novice or a seasoned professional." >=20 > Of course=2C it also has looping :) >=20 > But the samples are what really sets it apart. Of special interest to > this list: > Zoe Keating recorded the cello samples=2C Steve Bingham recorded the > violin=2C and Todd Matthews recorded the double bass. The string > section is definitely one of the highlights=2C thank you guys! >=20 > Check out the example audio on the site (more videos coming soon)=2C and > tell your friends about it. The App Store direct link is: >=20 > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/thumbjam/id338977566?mt=3D8 >=20 > jlc >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_14e0e3b5-bc34-4832-9bb2-814e13bb0eef_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool app Jesse. Getting close to the amazing chaosillator - something = I've wanted for a while...

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View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. <= a href=3D'http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/' target=3D'_new'= >Add them now. = --_14e0e3b5-bc34-4832-9bb2-814e13bb0eef_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 09:19:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D631D3BE8D; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 309460682/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.172.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.172.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYCAMqGKUtPTqw9/2dsb2JhbAAImHm8ZYQtBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,410,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="309460682" Message-ID: <4B29F7C0.1040702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:20:00 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping and the public and categ References: <9c3ebb9b0912160940t3710332bx7fb8c45bf6297f1d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b0912160940t3710332bx7fb8c45bf6297f1d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:19:46 +0000 (UTC) neat questions, Loaf citious wrote: > > 1)Do you really mean "brand" or do you mean > to simply make more popular? Probably there's as many answers to that as there are list members :-) This is just mine: Back in 2005 I called my cd "livelooping", I thought that pointed out that it was something other than a guitar solo album. I'm not sure where I got the idea to leave out the space, and make no claim to have invented the idea. > > 2)If to brand something, LiveLooping seems more > of a description than a brand name. Why not > continue branding LD? I mean, that's a cool > name that could also encompass many things. live looping ...description livelooping ... brand Looper's Delight ...website devoted to *all* types of music that uses loops, live or otherwise. > > I guess this would bring up other questions > like: is LD only for the musicians that are > into Looping? Would the owner of the website > and listServe be ok or mad at that? Would that > just lead to more spam on the list? Oh there's some history here ;-) >From pre-"loop station" days. Owner is Kim Flint. He objected quite strongly to the term "Festival of Looping" being used for events organise by/for live loopers. He thought it wrong to present what he saw as a narrow range of music as being "looping". He pointed out that HipHop, Industrial etc. all used loops. About that time, the fests changed to "Festival of Live Looping". While Kim's not an active list member here, he certainly coined the term "Looper's Delight" and I don't think it would be appropriate to use that term in the way you suggest. >And I think a fest would actually > be more popular with a singular or more closly > related genres (in some cases - not all). :-) so organize one > > Anyway, I'm sure I've stepped on a lot of toes here. not at all > Sorry if I stirred the pot. Just some random thoughts > from a guy posts quite randomly. hope that's some useful background > > -AG > andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 09:34:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3824A3BE92; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261042492; bh=PY2XoNrXYdShesFW/6y683WaKs0yiDYhB8kkieokDHo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iU4+cyuJun8ufQTCtTDaECN4Dxw2O2uh5fS7ejlDVP5M0LctTLyDFq+YMGkJrn6vv/uaByhc125lqSAFOoPDLMciizDNNViaFglKP1wE0qLIrEGptRrgSEDw45leGO0s87L7eeweb8Xlu+NAp5fijeUipuyGJMOId28bKnTe91I= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rAyKjmaM8YQu7irBLCdXVHDWflUi8k6LPqxKeRzMG9zM3Gaq78ldT871esHpdYY4+jUkQoLXsXNqqciudxF8iBgpZijzqF+FRCfbK0oVvkA4R9rV6JinfwdmR8V2GYHua9VedO4CCWlEfLcnuk10nv56iomGjouB3eQRRydBv+E=; Message-ID: <997833.75129.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2FPfhdMVM1l0Q.t.UyCNJIYp7Dh58azOLteN0YoCwWH7.MKBEscqAuCjKK6XqSMU0dOifuGxR6mIgivFLIs6eNNiY2CZ4DOWjz4apSJPwM51y9Hwlpe_88Br7buUUpBlCTf4jzloTLg41P_9kQjWbJAXylb8MygXvvsXEssbPceakG6gafESjJFStHZYHM_KH01Buq55zlaG1Kz1sxj2P8xyO6VKNVo6fs3yRN6NIcB7lpg9aaotq11ddc2fBYDh33vl1USw.B1dMRVaBsvUnlDe9wO6VT1H07gPFsg60nE.eC5zuCEIbsR9I06_nzBLl_UL2AjuTnsbFVr1D_njCXSZdryv7srSK.GujAWCp4uBLTp9A135__vsjpgXqecH.dZZr9YMsm0MeFhIwAqAo894l6EBcsp2u7jRBIhyDjfQkqzOoxpY_zDfXYT.MWePqNrcBrtInRikZcFXuZRFTB1SZJC8Q3tnORK1ey5LNd_TnkjWdszXHVVfhaL_fSQBuDJVrSNVBKeJTGVsfO5y22WAognJFbbt4_pG3ztl6OeOsxG29KvkPeBzTS5Y24fL3M6l7E_5RHD_7vIRV1snjjeNz52tEBvQYRnscoLffSygUi0NtIoTuXwCyVLbg4slFr.4Uc8YJiuJHvZTKd9i1d7Zl9WhdoKP.EG.GIJHJsHNxOGeGM8nA4oHRGRgRL1MK.6937kMC2ZyGuursvxuDW8Fhmb.1KPj1NFLGWBwaXgEMZq5ewzmXcDVO_fE_DGE X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:34:51 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-314714481-1261042491=:75129" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:34:53 +0000 (UTC) --0-314714481-1261042491=:75129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vary cool Kayla !=A0=A0=A0 OT Note......your next video about Borderline P= ersonality Disorder...I've not heard of the disorder ...but sounds disturbi= ngly familiar=A0 ..thanks for the info Kyle Dean Patten P.O. 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--0-314714481-1261042491=:75129-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 10:20:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 602253BE94; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Req1YxIPQTtuJALaAP3wiCia6L2s6hyLIJgiJwbsMDc=; b=up3Xqf4xb6QDLfCc+PqRxU1+Kg5uQ2PeUjjRNycnrNIBFtyUEYO1Qjcycp8AdliT2v R9HXtAIU+01tb6RUhustlESRiOtRxP6RuIoBtkzmgRMOB2O9YguaOWeUwyb3wiTbqRRI yTvCwBHSXi19Blup1+iiV2Dr72eE2fYP1iAMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=x+G+1hgcQfwiuVx6p8Of81H5nlQrvRBEEZNvz4Vmxg5MIVV6v+k96i9GOnsqH2Z6j5 /tUrWzSPLr/4oTW8lrN+jpqEKXioUdctmptbirLGP49v97aw+3ReR5DQ30lvnAv3p33O wTHgvS9E5GcmAXEY6K3XpsPNjFy48Nw4bOnJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com From: Nick Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:20:22 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b032c7136a1ff604 Message-ID: Subject: Looping set-up in Ableton To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi All, I apologize in advance if this has been covered somewhere. I looked around and couldn't find anything so I figured I'd ask. After watching the launchpad ad where the player recorded three separate drum loops live and switched between them, I wanted to set something like that up. I figured I could set the row to be a single track and record+switch with midi keys, but that gets too limited quickly. What I would like to set up is as follows: Long Description: A drum rack, a reason in, other ins as necessary, etc. Then, at least 8 separate, individually controlled and fx chained tracks (either all armed or all with loopers. Preferably a looper per track. Or both? if that's even possible) that *all* can record from the ins (if the ins all route through one global "ins" track to the loop tracks, that's fine). So if I hit record for track 3, it'll record (or overdub) whatever the Ins are playing into track 3. Etc. Basically just what a multitrack hardware looper like the looperlative does, only in software. Short description: An Ableton live rack that samples just like a kaos pad does. Any advice or help with this would be greatly appreciated. I've come close, but there's always something complicating the solution so it's harder than push-record-loop. I think I'm missing something really simple, but I can't figure it out for the life of me. Thanks! Nicolas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 11:23:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4E293BE92; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kqLtiX/POXN4I96BUZjilwhvMYbMFoLQcHByTeP2nTc=; b=dlUQxMYCUNXexWkdsZz6lW/Du7+QMTEVYg5v12PSKomqGo5ykABpjibOrx7F/RGYqH xKm2Ap32uIkXO9gDSl8OlOelIhJvk8QX8iQz1aRQfy/hjSO/JfzQq3Z2hNPs/LZns3Bs nLEd5MwsHldQ8pwvDrVeTynXeULsnWhgdj6ro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wLg7CAVxXh5UD7ylIaroVSaSgC3l//C8OAGPDRhWUv87h+RosntijPp1oMQybtb4iF MCSU9UFqhcQ9NBi0BobuqPgTc39tv6gw9ZlLKdS2bF7vH8DH8fxcrhZs6Jbo1S5S6b7A jF+LGEeIps/oIKuzfY+yu+mU6845YMWx9g5Tk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B299E6A.4050904@gmail.com> References: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> <4B299E6A.4050904@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:23:21 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912170323q4cc91970w775d122d73c5f22d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9MQBK.A.qkC.qShKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:23:22 +0000 (UTC) What a nice little instrument that is! As far as I know you are the first on this list to get one. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com -- On Wed, 12/16/09, Kayla Kavanagh wrote: From: Kayla Kavanagh Subject: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 7:30 PM Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk http://www.kaylakavanagh.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 11:28:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31C593BE91; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B2A15D4.7070701@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:28:20 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Last Y2K Live Looping Festival? was: The Branding of Live Looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) FRO DIDDLY asked about the Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival next year. *"last one? bummer-"* Yeah, at least for my foreseeable future. I hope you will plan on coming and performing so you don't miss out, Fro. Your are cordially and officially invited and I'm taking invitations now from everyone. I love this festival and it has had a huge impact on my live in the past ten years but each year it has taken longer and longer to produce and taken up more and more of my own artistic energy. I've been very ambitious in the past 3-5 years and have tried to do a lot of international touring, national touring and the festival and I've ended up exhausted and not finishing projects that I've had in the pipeline for literally years. Two years ago it took 6 months to do the festival This past year it took 7 1/2 months. I've been working a little bit every day less than a month after the festival this year for next years' festival so that will put it up at 11 months for this year. I just need to have a bit of a life for myself and I need to be a full time artist again. I figure I have worked my butt off to try and serve this community (and I've received immeasurable awards for doing it so I'm very grateful) so I think I've earned a break for a while at least. Some of this is my own fault as I've tried to make it more and more impressive; more and more inclusive, but, at the same time, it has not increased in attendance or in it's ability to create income so it has hurt me financially quite a bit (especially in the past 2 years because of this horrible recession that Northern California is not nearly out of yet). I love doing theme-oriented festivals so I'm sure I'll do other things, but I just need a break. I'm also curious to see whether this mode is sustainable and whether this community will pick up the ball in the United States and produce future looping festivals without me putting the lions share of energy into doing them. *"do you have dates lined up yet? or a general time frame?" *Yes, October 13th - October 18th, 2010 and, unlike past years, I think I'm going to make the entire thing be in Santa Cruz and expand the dates for the festival here. In past years I've always tried to create an event for traveling artists so that they have more than one date to come play but it has been tremendously draining for me to not only coordinate small festivals in other cities but it also consistently drained financial resources to do so. Next year I've decided to really make it a Festival/Convention and include multiple venues, coordinated clinics and basically turn my traveling artists onto the potential of producing shows in other cities on their own (or letting someone in the community step up to produce the shows that have typically been done in SF, San Jose, the East Bay, etc. in past years). Lastly, I'm going to recreate what I think was the first self conscious Live Digital Looping monthly gig in history at the site where it occurred (MOBO SUSHI) in 1995 and I'm going to bring GARY REGINA here from Arizona and together, with my brother, BILL WALKER, the three of us will celebrate that monthly gig we did for almost a year as THIRD WAVE. That will probably occur on Wednesday, October 13th. By the way, loop historians, I have not found anything online that indicates that such a thing existed before this date. In the spirit of our dearly departed loop historian, Dr. Richard Zvonar, I want to make sure that my claim about this is accurate. Please let me know if anyone knows of an advertised, regular and ongoing live looping performance existed before this time so I know that I'm not engaging in historic hyperbole. Later on, I will post some thoughts about the future as I see it and what will happen after this large festival stops under my direction. That's going to be a longer post and I"m really curious to hear what people think about the future at that point. It's been a true pleasure trying to serve this community and it has enriched my life immeasurably that this festival has occurred and that so many amazing artists have sacrificed so much to come to my home town and play their version of live looping music. 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+0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555666ea5b7b3047aebefc7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:41:05 +0000 (UTC) --00032555666ea5b7b3047aebefc7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool ! fabio www.eterogeneo.com > > > -- On Wed, 12/16/09, Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > > > From: Kayla Kavanagh > Subject: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 7:30 PM > > > Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk > > http://www.kaylakavanagh.com > > --00032555666ea5b7b3047aebefc7 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=A0 =A0From: Kayla Kavanagh <irishkayla@googlemail.com>
=A0 =A0Subject: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico
=A0 =A0To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
=A0 =A0Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 7:30 PM

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=A0 =A0Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico:
= = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP6XsTuK2vpk

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--0-1797564655-1261057538=:17782-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 15:04:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C9DE3BE95; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Chris Sewell Subject: Octave effect in AU Plugin? Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:04:51 -0500 Message-id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Anyone know of a good one? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 15:19:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AECE3BE8B; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xhvrS9CLdybXNfDJZleLbFnZeGEgP1jyGMgHEH7ciUI=; b=ibybfLuEQdidLyqwlzacfZWVBJw5ikxjlD5jYR7I1jIgBFTBXVgr0D6McTrALtMJO4 oySqAldUpz7K9UX4eo4t/afRxz4cj+SwSpaUGlca89jmHf+9yH5dJeKrbyboQEUbWAzy MszubLEyb2Dyc79WMcq7ysFZYz/57KgzGqDi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wQEkc8zukYA3QVaPG3zj9O6owFNY6/WxsglqgCEqtC2Z4u3x4PxQ9J4x/Cprvmnh0v EP6ZCsUX9SK0U7iVcf3bBPp58r2stw82QByYaTRzZK4noEYPvkLSfZIvVY4I5HV7f2hg /JBZjkklJ37QT5sjNuv7l3d2Mgvibi440STe8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:19:08 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a1170c7ad5e27f77 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Octave effect in AU Plugin? From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <5EOXO.A.goC.tvkKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Oomingmak will do that if you set it up right: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ cheers, os. 2009/12/17 Chris Sewell : > Anyone know of a good one? > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 15:19:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 942333BE95; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=F9h0HAQA3SyBjWSr9OYwkMiQO6AiKHFgOx2ggybe2O/2iqyJnsZzxjaEsJeNOv2f; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:19:14 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Octave effect in AU Plugin? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec795295bb03b59f585ba4e6295220003a00350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.132 Resent-Message-ID: <77T9yD.A.jsC.IwkKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:19:36 +0000 (UTC) There are at least 4 effects that create an "octave effect" Harmonizer Octave Divider Ring modulator / rectifier / multiplier. Pitch tracker. What effect are you looking for? >Anyone know of a good one? -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 15:33:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF0CD3BE8F; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: References: Message-id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Octave effect in AU Plugin? Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:34:02 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:33:58 +0000 (UTC) The best octave pedal I've used is the EH POG. Tracks flawlessly and sounds big and fat. I hate giving money to Mike Matthews, but its a great pedal. Something like that. I'll try the Expert Sleepers thing. On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > There are at least 4 effects that create an "octave effect" > > Harmonizer > Octave Divider > Ring modulator / rectifier / multiplier. > Pitch tracker. > > What effect are you looking for? > > >> Anyone know of a good one? > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 16:39:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 674CF3BE8F; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6142dd72-3482-467d-ba01-701cc744cacf_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Last Y2K Live Looping Festival? was: The Branding of Live Looping Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:36:21 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B2A15D4.7070701@cruzio.com> References: <4B2A15D4.7070701@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2009 16:36:21.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[10B0C6F0:01CA7F37] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:39:15 +0000 (UTC) --_6142dd72-3482-467d-ba01-701cc744cacf_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow...While I can completely understand the need to have a life (whatever t= hat is...) I have to say the Y2Ks have been an incredible experience . I th= ink we should all give Rick a big round of applause. Hope to see you all in '10! =20 J.D.Devros deafrose58 =20 > Date: Thu=2C 17 Dec 2009 03:28:20 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Last Y2K Live Looping Festival? was: The Branding of Live Loopin= g >=20 > FRO DIDDLY asked about the Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival=20 > next year. >=20 > *"last one? bummer-"* >=20 > Yeah=2C at least for my foreseeable future. I hope you will plan on comin= g=20 > and performing so you don't miss out=2C Fro. Your are cordially and offic= ially=20 > invited and I'm taking invitations now from everyone. >=20 > I love this festival and it has had a huge impact on my live in the past= =20 > ten years but each year it has taken longer and longer to produce and tak= en=20 > up more and more of my own artistic energy.=20 >=20 > I've been very ambitious in the past 3-5 years and have tried to do a lot= of international=20 > touring=2C national touring and the festival and I've ended up exhausted = and not=20 > finishing projects that I've had in the pipeline for literally years. >=20 > Two years ago it took 6 months to do the festival > This past year it took 7 1/2 months. > I've been working a little bit every day less than a month after the fest= ival=20 > this year for next years' festival so that will put it up at 11 months fo= r this year. >=20 > I just need to have a bit of a life for myself and I need to be a full ti= me artist again. > I figure I have worked my butt off to try and serve this community (and I= 've received immeasurable=20 > awards for doing it so I'm very grateful) so I think I've earned a break = for a while at least. >=20 > Some of this is my own fault as I've tried to make it more and more impre= ssive=3B=20 > more and more inclusive=2C but=2C at the same time=2C it has not increase= d in=20 > attendance or in it's ability to create income so it has hurt me financia= lly=20 > quite a bit (especially in the past 2 years because of this horrible rece= ssion=20 > that Northern California is not nearly out of yet). >=20 > I love doing theme-oriented festivals so I'm sure I'll do other things=2C= but I just need=20 > a break. I'm also curious to see whether this mode is sustainable and whe= ther this community will pick up the ball=20 > in the United States and produce future looping festivals without me putt= ing the lions share of energy=20 > into doing them. >=20 > *"do you have dates lined up yet? or a general time frame?" >=20 > *Yes=2C October 13th - October 18th=2C 2010 >=20 > and=2C unlike past years=2C I think I'm going to make the entire thing be= in=20 > Santa Cruz and expand the dates for the festival here. >=20 > In past years I've always tried to create an event for traveling artists = so that they have=20 > more than one date to come play but it has been tremendously draining for= me to not only coordinate=20 > small festivals in other cities but it also consistently drained financia= l resources to do so. >=20 > Next year I've decided to really make it a Festival/Convention and includ= e=20 > multiple venues=2C coordinated clinics and basically turn my traveling ar= tists onto=20 > the potential of producing shows in other cities on their own (or letting= someone in the community=20 > step up to produce the shows that have typically been done in SF=2C San J= ose=2C the East Bay=2C etc.=20 > in past years). >=20 > Lastly=2C I'm going to recreate what I think was the first self conscious= Live Digital Looping monthly gig in=20 > history at the site where it occurred (MOBO SUSHI) in 1995 and I'm going = to bring GARY REGINA here from=20 > Arizona and together=2C with my brother=2C BILL WALKER=2C the three of us= will celebrate that monthly gig we did for=20 > almost a year as THIRD WAVE. That will probably occur on Wednesday=2C Oct= ober 13th. >=20 > By the way=2C loop historians=2C I have not found anything online that in= dicates that such a thing existed before this=20 > date. In the spirit of our dearly departed loop historian=2C Dr. Richard = Zvonar=2C I want to make sure that=20 > my claim about this is accurate. Please let me know if anyone knows of an= advertised=2C regular and ongoing=20 > live looping performance existed before this time so I know that I'm not = engaging in historic hyperbole. >=20 > Later on=2C I will post some thoughts about the future as I see it and wh= at will happen=20 > after this large festival stops under my direction. That's going to be a = longer post and=20 > I"m really curious to hear what people think about the future at that poi= nt. >=20 > It's been a true pleasure trying to serve this community and it has enric= hed my life=20 > immeasurably that this festival has occurred and that so many amazing art= ists have sacrificed so much=20 > to come to my home town and play their version of live looping music. >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/= --_6142dd72-3482-467d-ba01-701cc744cacf_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow...While I can completely understand the need to have a life (whatever t= hat is...) I have to say the Y2Ks have been an incredible experience . I th= ink we should all give Rick a big round of applause.
Hope to see you all in '10!
=3B
J.D.Devros
deafrose58
=3B
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 17 Dec 2009 03:28:20 -0800>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com
>=3B Subject: Last Y2K Live Looping Festival? was: The Brandi= ng of Live Looping
>=3B
>=3B FRO DIDDLY asked about the Y2K-X In= ternational Live Looping Festival
>=3B next year.
>=3B
>= =3B *"last one? bummer-"*
>=3B
>=3B Yeah=2C at least for my fore= seeable future. I hope you will plan on coming
>=3B and performing so= you don't miss out=2C Fro. Your are cordially and officially
>=3B in= vited and I'm taking invitations now from everyone.
>=3B
>=3B I = love this festival and it has had a huge impact on my live in the past
= >=3B ten years but each year it has taken longer and longer to produce an= d taken
>=3B up more and more of my own artistic energy.
>=3B <= BR>>=3B I've been very ambitious in the past 3-5 years and have tried to = do a lot of international
>=3B touring=2C national touring and the fe= stival and I've ended up exhausted and not
>=3B finishing projects th= at I've had in the pipeline for literally years.
>=3B
>=3B Two y= ears ago it took 6 months to do the festival
>=3B This past year it to= ok 7 1/2 months.
>=3B I've been working a little bit every day less th= an a month after the festival
>=3B this year for next years' festival= so that will put it up at 11 months for this year.
>=3B
>=3B I = just need to have a bit of a life for myself and I need to be a full time a= rtist again.
>=3B I figure I have worked my butt off to try and serve = this community (and I've received immeasurable
>=3B awards for doing = it so I'm very grateful) so I think I've earned a break for a while at leas= t.
>=3B
>=3B Some of this is my own fault as I've tried to make = it more and more impressive=3B
>=3B more and more inclusive=2C but=2C= at the same time=2C it has not increased in
>=3B attendance or in it= 's ability to create income so it has hurt me financially
>=3B quite = a bit (especially in the past 2 years because of this horrible recession >=3B that Northern California is not nearly out of yet).
>=3B
= >=3B I love doing theme-oriented festivals so I'm sure I'll do other thin= gs=2C but I just need
>=3B a break. I'm also curious to see whether t= his mode is sustainable and whether this community will pick up the ball >=3B in the United States and produce future looping festivals without = me putting the lions share of energy
>=3B into doing them.
>=3B =
>=3B *"do you have dates lined up yet? or a general time frame?"
&= gt=3B
>=3B *Yes=2C October 13th - October 18th=2C 2010
>=3B
= >=3B and=2C unlike past years=2C I think I'm going to make the entire thi= ng be in
>=3B Santa Cruz and expand the dates for the festival here.<= BR>>=3B
>=3B In past years I've always tried to create an event for= traveling artists so that they have
>=3B more than one date to come = play but it has been tremendously draining for me to not only coordinate >=3B small festivals in other cities but it also consistently drained f= inancial resources to do so.
>=3B
>=3B Next year I've decided to= really make it a Festival/Convention and include
>=3B multiple venue= s=2C coordinated clinics and basically turn my traveling artists onto
&= gt=3B the potential of producing shows in other cities on their own (or let= ting someone in the community
>=3B step up to produce the shows that = have typically been done in SF=2C San Jose=2C the East Bay=2C etc.
>= =3B in past years).
>=3B
>=3B Lastly=2C I'm going to recreate wh= at I think was the first self conscious Live Digital Looping monthly gig in=
>=3B history at the site where it occurred (MOBO SUSHI) in 1995 and = I'm going to bring GARY REGINA here from
>=3B Arizona and together=2C= with my brother=2C BILL WALKER=2C the three of us will celebrate that mont= hly gig we did for
>=3B almost a year as THIRD WAVE. That will probab= ly occur on Wednesday=2C October 13th.
>=3B
>=3B By the way=2C l= oop historians=2C I have not found anything online that indicates that such= a thing existed before this
>=3B date. In the spirit of our dearly d= eparted loop historian=2C Dr. Richard Zvonar=2C I want to make sure that >=3B my claim about this is accurate. Please let me know if anyone know= s of an advertised=2C regular and ongoing
>=3B live looping performan= ce existed before this time so I know that I'm not engaging in historic hyp= erbole.
>=3B
>=3B Later on=2C I will post some thoughts about th= e future as I see it and what will happen
>=3B after this large festi= val stops under my direction. That's going to be a longer post and
>= =3B I"m really curious to hear what people think about the future at that p= oint.
>=3B
>=3B It's been a true pleasure trying to serve this c= ommunity and it has enriched my life
>=3B immeasurably that this fest= ival has occurred and that so many amazing artists have sacrificed so much =
>=3B to come to my home town and play their version of live looping m= usic.
>=3B

Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and ri= ch email service. Get it now. = --_6142dd72-3482-467d-ba01-701cc744cacf_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 16:56:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA32A3BE94; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GpBas8ETiIXxT/5Dnhh/a9Dxcd7ZEE8fWB5+RKx+bug=; b=gASg5qg1DkTMK6kIsNCh2/vZtNKR9P5vjddP2FEF+eytmYjlqBQnG1HqZwMJ1JXnQs /tlO1k2v6tu8xyH5LEMAAFrovIEvzM6YmIAf+17VEl79aE+PE2r68Fz42Iq+wQKY0Ef6 nkXPN2Vo0paf0aQya34ZI+wAf0lpfqW/OfIlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=diXLlrMB/akeSDBuHiWu6mgU/x+ewzZE90S/yi/qfim94LnVCVoVZx9hk6JkwwaGPu Z7LJyjJsMcS5rZGDzvwOhlnz7y0l/2dreLgcmFolS/gRnO5IZfdmUVHpNk8K+KqxXt0s dBaypW8wRjIZhUuiEcT+W/6NzuU8962wK2AQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4B2A15D4.7070701@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:56:20 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912170856t2e1131d8q71e4bcc40784556d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Last Y2K Live Looping Festival? was: The Branding of Live Looping From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174028daa4a1b8047aef80bb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:23 +0000 (UTC) --0015174028daa4a1b8047aef80bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 echo'd, many kudos to Rick. As I only got involved in this community and Y2K 3 years ago it will sadden me for Rick to depart from being the 'wing commander' as I recently put it but on the other side I totally understand that he is similiar age to I and time is limited and desires are great for his own creative muse so there has to come a choice. I did the same thing with a label project a few years ago, not near as successful but clearly began to realize that I could either put time/resources in to bringing it alive and maybe helping other artists and myself together or I could focus more on my own path. With limitations of time and finances I chose the latter at least for now. I do see this departure though as a passing the torch within this collective so it will be good if Y2k can carry on. On a level I'd like to do it but that contradicts everything I expressed above realistically and too I feel that my neck of the woods is not the best place for this kind of event, frankly CA remains the best to me. Maybe there is a way we could have multiple curators/coordinators. Lot's to think about. Happy holidays to all... Jim On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Jeremy devros wrote: > Wow...While I can completely understand the need to have a life (whatever > that is...) I have to say the Y2Ks have been an incredible experience . I > think we should all give Rick a big round of applause. > Hope to see you all in '10! > > J.D.Devros > deafrose58 > > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:28:20 -0800 > > From: looppool@cruzio.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Last Y2K Live Looping Festival? was: The Branding of Live > Looping > > > > > FRO DIDDLY asked about the Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival > > next year. > > > > *"last one? bummer-"* > > > > Yeah, at least for my foreseeable future. I hope you will plan on coming > > and performing so you don't miss out, Fro. Your are cordially and > officially > > invited and I'm taking invitations now from everyone. > > > > I love this festival and it has had a huge impact on my live in the past > > ten years but each year it has taken longer and longer to produce and > taken > > up more and more of my own artistic energy. > > > > I've been very ambitious in the past 3-5 years and have tried to do a lot > of international > > touring, national touring and the festival and I've ended up exhausted > and not > > finishing projects that I've had in the pipeline for literally years. > > > > Two years ago it took 6 months to do the festival > > This past year it took 7 1/2 months. > > I've been working a little bit every day less than a month after the > festival > > this year for next years' festival so that will put it up at 11 months > for this year. > > > > I just need to have a bit of a life for myself and I need to be a full > time artist again. > > I figure I have worked my butt off to try and serve this community (and > I've received immeasurable > > awards for doing it so I'm very grateful) so I think I've earned a break > for a while at least. > > > > Some of this is my own fault as I've tried to make it more and more > impressive; > > more and more inclusive, but, at the same time, it has not increased in > > attendance or in it's ability to create income so it has hurt me > financially > > quite a bit (especially in the past 2 years because of this horrible > recession > > that Northern California is not nearly out of yet). > > > > I love doing theme-oriented festivals so I'm sure I'll do other things, > but I just need > > a break. I'm also curious to see whether this mode is sustainable and > whether this community will pick up the ball > > in the United States and produce future looping festivals without me > putting the lions share of energy > > into doing them. > > > > *"do you have dates lined up yet? or a general time frame?" > > > > *Yes, October 13th - October 18th, 2010 > > > > and, unlike past years, I think I'm going to make the entire thing be in > > Santa Cruz and expand the dates for the festival here. > > > > In past years I've always tried to create an event for traveling artists > so that they have > > more than one date to come play but it has been tremendously draining for > me to not only coordinate > > small festivals in other cities but it also consistently drained > financial resources to do so. > > > > Next year I've decided to really make it a Festival/Convention and > include > > multiple venues, coordinated clinics and basically turn my traveling > artists onto > > the potential of producing shows in other cities on their own (or letting > someone in the community > > step up to produce the shows that have typically been done in SF, San > Jose, the East Bay, etc. > > in past years). > > > > Lastly, I'm going to recreate what I think was the first self conscious > Live Digital Looping monthly gig in > > history at the site where it occurred (MOBO SUSHI) in 1995 and I'm going > to bring GARY REGINA here from > > Arizona and together, with my brother, BILL WALKER, the three of us will > celebrate that monthly gig we did for > > almost a year as THIRD WAVE. That will probably occur on Wednesday, > October 13th. > > > > By the way, loop historians, I have not found anything online that > indicates that such a thing existed before this > > date. In the spirit of our dearly departed loop historian, Dr. Richard > Zvonar, I want to make sure that > > my claim about this is accurate. Please let me know if anyone knows of an > advertised, regular and ongoing > > live looping performance existed before this time so I know that I'm not > engaging in historic hyperbole. > > > > Later on, I will post some thoughts about the future as I see it and what > will happen > > after this large festival stops under my direction. That's going to be a > longer post and > > I"m really curious to hear what people think about the future at that > point. > > > > It's been a true pleasure trying to serve this community and it has > enriched my life > > immeasurably that this festival has occurred and that so many amazing > artists have sacrificed so much > > to come to my home town and play their version of live looping music. > > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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echo'd, many kudos to Rick.=A0 As I only got involved in this comm= unity and Y2K 3 years ago it will sadden me for Rick to depart from being t= he 'wing commander' as I recently put it but on the other side I to= tally understand that he is similiar age to I and time is limited and desir= es are great for his own creative muse so there has to come a choice.=A0 I = did the same thing with a label project a few years ago, not near as succes= sful but clearly began to realize that I could either put time/resources in= to bringing it alive and maybe helping other artists and myself together o= r I could focus more on my own path.=A0 With limitations of time and financ= es I chose the latter at least for now.

=A0

I do see this departure though as a passing the torch within this coll= ective so it will be good if Y2k can carry on.=A0 On a level I'd like t= o do it but that contradicts everything I expressed above realistically and= too I feel that my neck of the woods is not the best place for this kind o= f event, frankly CA remains the best to me.=A0 Maybe there is a way we coul= d have multiple curators/coordinators.

=A0

Lot's to think about.

=A0

Happy holidays to all...

=A0

Jim

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Jeremy devros = <deafrose58@= hotmail.com> wrote:

Wow...While I can completely understand the need to have a life (whate= ver that is...) I have to say the Y2Ks have been an incredible experience .= I think we should all give Rick a big round of applause.
Hope to see yo= u all in '10!
=A0
J.D.Devros
deafrose58
=A0
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:28= :20 -0800
> From: looppool@cruzio.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
> Subject: Last Y2K Live Looping Festival? was: The Branding of Live Loo= ping=20

>
> FRO DIDDLY asked about the Y2K-X Intern= ational Live Looping Festival
> next year.
>
> *"l= ast one? bummer-"*
>
> Yeah, at least for my foreseeable = future. I hope you will plan on coming
> and performing so you don't miss out, Fro. Your are cordially and = officially
> invited and I'm taking invitations now from everyon= e.
>
> I love this festival and it has had a huge impact on my= live in the past
> ten years but each year it has taken longer and longer to produce and = taken
> up more and more of my own artistic energy.
>
>= ; I've been very ambitious in the past 3-5 years and have tried to do a= lot of international
> touring, national touring and the festival and I've ended up exhau= sted and not
> finishing projects that I've had in the pipeline = for literally years.
>
> Two years ago it took 6 months to do = the festival
> This past year it took 7 1/2 months.
> I've been working a l= ittle bit every day less than a month after the festival
> this year= for next years' festival so that will put it up at 11 months for this = year.
>
> I just need to have a bit of a life for myself and I need to = be a full time artist again.
> I figure I have worked my butt off to = try and serve this community (and I've received immeasurable
> a= wards for doing it so I'm very grateful) so I think I've earned a b= reak for a while at least.
>
> Some of this is my own fault as I've tried to make it mor= e and more impressive;
> more and more inclusive, but, at the same t= ime, it has not increased in
> attendance or in it's ability to = create income so it has hurt me financially
> quite a bit (especially in the past 2 years because of this horrible r= ecession
> that Northern California is not nearly out of yet).
&g= t;
> I love doing theme-oriented festivals so I'm sure I'll = do other things, but I just need
> a break. I'm also curious to see whether this mode is sustainable = and whether this community will pick up the ball
> in the United Sta= tes and produce future looping festivals without me putting the lions share= of energy
> into doing them.
>
> *"do you have dates lined up ye= t? or a general time frame?"
>
> *Yes, October 13th - Oct= ober 18th, 2010
>
> and, unlike past years, I think I'm go= ing to make the entire thing be in
> Santa Cruz and expand the dates for the festival here.
>
>= ; In past years I've always tried to create an event for traveling arti= sts so that they have
> more than one date to come play but it has b= een tremendously draining for me to not only coordinate
> small festivals in other cities but it also consistently drained finan= cial resources to do so.
>
> Next year I've decided to rea= lly make it a Festival/Convention and include
> multiple venues, coo= rdinated clinics and basically turn my traveling artists onto
> the potential of producing shows in other cities on their own (or lett= ing someone in the community
> step up to produce the shows that hav= e typically been done in SF, San Jose, the East Bay, etc.
> in past = years).
>
> Lastly, I'm going to recreate what I think was the first = self conscious Live Digital Looping monthly gig in
> history at the = site where it occurred (MOBO SUSHI) in 1995 and I'm going to bring GARY= REGINA here from
> Arizona and together, with my brother, BILL WALKER, the three of us wi= ll celebrate that monthly gig we did for
> almost a year as THIRD WA= VE. That will probably occur on Wednesday, October 13th.
>
> B= y the way, loop historians, I have not found anything online that indicates= that such a thing existed before this
> date. In the spirit of our dearly departed loop historian, Dr. Richard= Zvonar, I want to make sure that
> my claim about this is accurate.= Please let me know if anyone knows of an advertised, regular and ongoing <= br> > live looping performance existed before this time so I know that I'= ;m not engaging in historic hyperbole.
>
> Later on, I will po= st some thoughts about the future as I see it and what will happen
> after this large festival stops under my direction. That's going t= o be a longer post and
> I"m really curious to hear what people= think about the future at that point.
>
> It's been a tru= e pleasure trying to serve this community and it has enriched my life
> immeasurably that this festival has occurred and that so many amazing = artists have sacrificed so much
> to come to my home town and play t= heir version of live looping music.
>

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--0015174028daa4a1b8047aef80bb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 19:25:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4065D3BE8D; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=BgYy82HYWD++z1JNniq7m5TCJt6gP1Ei6jl0Y4a71Mo=; b=mv3KEPfq8powXMoApxiVaa/NedG7qpXIgQEAUgLpmVv3iRQ+Xr0t6vEqrQQn6gCV8Q CooQTGVHNhjpfNoR4G045AtbtmAc1Fyimrq3E9rdtVTsC5QQmcE3WZP4h0Eume7pkaom DqCbJKz440yOoEIL7tLWTtZsnD+s2Tvejp2qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BeFQyjrEfHQrhSFRyspqkMOcGbkhTEzxJ0mvzVJNYuzH2gCiWHbCS8eX/2rgDPZlgb 3onp5/9pWVxDi3WhCDQCRBLMdcClUZKNrZ2SO4Mc13fHKV/ES7lfeE/6aIWCNh5zroWl qQ/4/x8qh1z5rueeItSKz3HIlUqhUeZdlpcvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:25:45 +0000 Message-ID: <659e524f0912171125w6b787576mf5740090e40bb44b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Social Networking Benefits to Independent Musicians From: Andy Brown To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi there. How are you? I hope you're well. You don't really know me or anything, but I was recommended approaching you guys by a friend of mine named Phil (MyOneManBand)! I have a small favour to ask from you. I'll start by setting the scene: I currently work in the Adelphi Club in Hull, in the UK, which is among the last truly independent music venues in the UK. I'm at university in the city studying in computer geekery. I'm working on an assignment at the moment which I think you might be able to help me with. Little academic research already seems to exist in the field, which means I really need all the help I can get! I have to write a report investigating technologies in relation to my working environment. I've managed to steer this towards an investigation of the effects the internet (particularly the social networking phenomenon) has had on DIY music. Would it be possible for you to answer a few questions for me regarding this subject? 1. Firstly, when did you discover the Internet? 2. If so, how has the Internet been of a benefit to you as an artist, or other artists you know? 3. Can you think of any negative effects internet technologies have had on artists (for example, say, people getting annoyed by the e-flying that swamped message boards on MySpace or perhaps very expensive and very annoying advertising campaigns by the majors)? 4. Do you think the way artists use the internet has changed in the last 10 years, and do you think this will change in the next 10, if so, how? I really hope you can help me out, and if you do, you'll be cited in my report:) So far I've managed to get a handful responses - of which most are from UK artists, although I have managed to get a couple of willing New York antifolkers involved, as well as my boss at the venue. Thanks for reading, look forward to hearing back from you. Andy From nxvjzg@yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 17 19:29:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 328 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:29:19 UTC Received: from CORREO.CENTRALPR.COM (89.Red-79-148-249.staticIP.rima-tde.net [79.148.249.89]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEC13BE8A; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([80.179.238.93]) by CORREO.CENTRALPR.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:23:32 +0100 Reply-To: nxvjzg@yahoo.co.uk From: HSBC Online Banking Subject: We detected irregular activity on your HSBC Check Card Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:22:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2009 19:23:32.0570 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BC48BA0:01CA7F4E] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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Please do not reply to this e-mail as this is only a notification. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 19:59:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 935DD3BE92; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ArEq68hZOXQMNrrReQiKodYdfZkCxASNvQ1Ls4RrQ+A=; b=NCf2vVlheqpUb+l3HIHblq49FjRTQrcBkPUKI/gEeHqG4grPWvaZPIsR8bSNSJRQSb hUkrhpfUtGUQcSvevyyQlXkdcO9F5KMtkO1lPXReE8SwPkF3Yg7GNy6dfVNCxiJexPGU 1bUcFSdrwR3lsICnV2bTBHSoi/wSwOIS8+85U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TL65pts4rH5yHOgU3hkdFAEjT8eqT+XY6tp9PdagjusE6xTwr0ETIXkcOgsH6H1hI3 Fr11+zo/3mvroPV1zv2FBI2pUkcMcXB9g3aqyhsptur+9LmtsSwFyPdfUCgdu2NuKOrH ekPaTDpGuS/Uvi2rOuAqwksJZgV0oPrSE+J+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B299E6A.4050904@gmail.com> References: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> <4B299E6A.4050904@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:59:03 +0000 Message-ID: <1f6442e00912171159lbb8b658g957f8c3704952990@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico From: Kayla Kavanagh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f45490159360047af20e47 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:59:05 +0000 (UTC) --001485f45490159360047af20e47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2009/12/17 Brian Good > Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > >> Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk >> >> http://www.kaylakavanagh.com >> >> > It looks like you're playing the thing in some kind of constrained-to-scale > mode. Can it be played chromatically as well? If so, how is the fingering > laid out for that? > > Brian > > Hey Brian, The Eigenharp can be configured to play chromatically, major, minor, modal, jazz ... any scale configuration you like! You can swap keys and octaves 'on the fly' which is really handy ~ I've been lucky enough to be down at Eigenlabs a couple of times in London and have met the team and tried out the Alpha instrument too which is also amazing. It's quite an exciting instrument to be getting to grips with and I'm slowly but surely gaining confidence! Kayla -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com Kayla on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kaylakavanagh MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 --001485f45490159360047af20e47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2009/12/17 Brian Good <bsgood@gmail.com>

Kayla Kavanagh wrote:

Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: http://www.youtube.com/watch= ?v=3DP6XsTuK2vpk

http://www.kayla= kavanagh.com

It looks like you're playing the thing in some kind of constrained-to-s= cale mode. Can it be played chromatically as well? If so, how is the finger= ing laid out for that?

Brian

Hey Brian,

The Eigenharp can be config= ured to play chromatically, major, minor, modal, jazz ... any scale configu= ration you like! You can swap keys and octaves 'on the fly' which i= s really handy ~ I've been lucky enough to be down at Eigenlabs a coupl= e of times in London and have met the team and tried out the Alpha instrume= nt too which is also amazing.

It's quite an exciting instrument to be getting to grips with and I= 'm slowly but surely gaining confidence!

Kayla
=
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Kayla's website: http://www.ka= ylakavanagh.com
Kayla on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kaylakavanagh
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavan= agh
FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 --001485f45490159360047af20e47-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 19:59:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DD883BE8B; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a/OPbnGG54K0L8ZhZbA2DmrWAxQNjexMfEd0W4DaNvI=; b=A0TTt/PMJhSrvhHy7raR6HR0148ldnlYCj78jYD5ugvViJXn3TmhTZPVPgwEi0hSCb tPN7C3RIjPf3RryfbdLt8Q+bfiebOI//5q6BkZsP/QShHQyVFkCMj2mUn1EqR2otIA8y 26b+OR7dP5Qjv/qvp2UUSF0P5peP6noNvVEUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=n03dJB5VN9ztporJTA8zywFMvCx6ToWeWd6DeX/x7OkFCszrCELWer8dj2HP/b+pyj 3/Yk65VnN6lSn4hRgkKYnl2Q3HqFDYB2bzthBoTjwjdLYgsSq7We33H4/6Brec1jlVWr 5XdxRxVMs4g5MDZM1atw37Plo1B9kfPJphMPk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <997833.75129.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> <997833.75129.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:59:49 +0000 Message-ID: <1f6442e00912171159y3d64c8f3uc2dfc5ed1461ba5e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico From: Kayla Kavanagh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0014850c20cbe0f0f8047af2107d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:59:52 +0000 (UTC) --0014850c20cbe0f0f8047af2107d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you very much for that Kyle ~ very encouraging indeed :) Kayla 2009/12/17 K D Patten > Vary cool Kayla ! OT Note......your next video about Borderline > Personality Disorder...I've not heard of the disorder ...but sounds > disturbingly familiar ..thanks for the info > > Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4JladRinlk > > > > > > --- On *Wed, 12/16/09, Kayla Kavanagh * wrote: > > > From: Kayla Kavanagh > Subject: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 7:30 PM > > > Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk > > http://www.kaylakavanagh.com > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com Kayla on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kaylakavanagh MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 --0014850c20cbe0f0f8047af2107d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you very much for that Kyle ~ very encouraging indeed :)

Kayla=

2009/12/17 K D Patten = <kdpatten@yahoo.com>=

Vary cool Kayla !=A0=A0=A0 O= T Note......your next video about Borderline Personality Disorder...I= 've not heard of the disorder ...but sounds disturbingly familiar=A0 ..= thanks for the info

Kyle Dean Patte= n

P.O. Box 22

Jo= hnston, IA=A0 50131

=A0

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyle= deanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
http://www.youtub= e.com/watch?v=3Dn4JladRinlk

--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Kayla Kavanagh <irishkayla@googlema= il.com> wrote:

From: Kayla Kavanagh <irishkayla@googlemail.com>=
Subject: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 7:30 PM

Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP6XsTuK2vpk

http://www.kayla= kavanagh.com

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FaceBook: http= ://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016
--0014850c20cbe0f0f8047af2107d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 20:00:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EDCE3BE8B; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eFTb+cdhTCPeto6rTdh+4F/EgAEv++vbdqp2XLSFNKs=; b=P4Em3SozCpL61n5pVJfk0XvMTuDzSywjEP2OFadU3BVNFao9f7mMImj4K1HZYqMBkY aJtwaV3RGyHOHFah33kPWdMAI4EubHNLL4qJlpSf5UmorayoV6WLZ9INssrB7+I/Ga52 m+qKoOu76UNtzCq90bXwGBQuvP88HbkJPn8ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GLYcIJBettrvFKBAvSavizY4qJRTbpFjY0N7KXgSyx4SM/fzB2U64sI0tm8wfpSICX NXWpSzDQW/SJKxmh/X9JY8vGFj60Ao+uKgRYYzc9+Yple6/fR1GGHKV4KgWKiuD2mbHA HAkCEQ10S9Te/Gq+bZ2Gy8acOLoGTWuoChWqg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0912170323q4cc91970w775d122d73c5f22d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> <4B299E6A.4050904@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912170323q4cc91970w775d122d73c5f22d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:00:46 +0000 Message-ID: <1f6442e00912171200j63dfa06dv1b19ce1447c3ff2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico From: Kayla Kavanagh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163645705e3bd160047af214c5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:00:48 +0000 (UTC) --00163645705e3bd160047af214c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yay! I've never been first at anything technologically so that's quite exciting :) It is a great instrument and I'm having lots of fun with it - will keep you posted with another vid when I improve! K 2009/12/17 Per Boysen > What a nice little instrument that is! As far as I know you are the > first on this list to get one. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > -- On Wed, 12/16/09, Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > > > From: Kayla Kavanagh > Subject: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 7:30 PM > > > Kayla Kavanagh playing the new Eigenharp Pico: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XsTuK2vpk > > http://www.kaylakavanagh.com > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com Kayla on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kaylakavanagh MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 --00163645705e3bd160047af214c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yay! I've never been first at anything technologically so that's qu= ite exciting :) It is a great instrument and I'm having lots of fun wit= h it - will keep you posted with another vid when I improve!

K

2009/12/17 Per Boysen <= perboysen@gmail.com>

What a nice little instrument that is! As far as I know you are the
first on this list to get one.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

-- On Wed, 12/16/09, Kayla Kavanagh <irishkayla@googlemail.com> wrote:

=A0 =A0From: Kayla Kavanagh <irishkayla@googlemail.com>
=A0 =A0Subject: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico
=A0 =A0To: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com
=A0 =A0Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 7:30 PM

=A0 =A0Kayla Kavanagh playing the = new Eigenharp Pico:
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP6XsTuK2vpk

=A0 =A0http://w= ww.kaylakavanagh.com

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Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com
Kayla on Twitter: http://w= ww.twitter.com/kaylakavanagh
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--00163645705e3bd160047af214c5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 20:14:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DF9E3BE8F; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gAYJkBaJ8ifqNruYiVDBc3CISZlKh4gty3aRZEiGDNo=; b=OtPzkRUp0D2raS3Bw7aYMFrNnZfEOxBMYia5MjjWybfKwirpCbk2N6ezhlTS9ERoIS lg7u63Fv8mi0CRvKKnjxmWuUv8BvoG+ahNgbV6Hg+TVFSvkpGm/i46NMl0QK8QDp0mo6 IBxxCm2vJfQ9oIPFsc31eolVz7h9QQzz1nVnk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZewJwDe5b3Jou22Sye9fzqLK40HyOp/0hFG4sqsFHBNv3ITLQQQwLy6fVfZQ26XB7J +1P10sxbhYiFyNWiG1943rwj5D0XH7tyBjTWNUOimgsUmB9efpkb7rgXLZJcFJJsErSc eSYhPq/xjHdCgs5smEm3LzjfLfq25ICheJOe4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <336598.39467.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <336598.39467.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:14:51 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912171214t5ee625b5n958f58b63a8c2e4c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Favorite 2009 music you think may have used live looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:14:52 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:39 AM, david kirkdorffer wrote: > What's your favorite music=C2=A0from 2009 you think may have used live lo= oping? Recently I have come to appreciate music that does not use live looping. That might seem a weird shout-out on this thread, but since it has a lot to do with live looping I think it qualifies anyway. From my own excessive live looping activities I have learned a lot about phrasing in rhythmical as well as tonal aspects. And what has happened for me is that I have started to really dig the human factor that is mostly lacking in live looping, those very subtle changes in expression that makes hand-made music never repeat itself. As a funny matter of facts I enjoy this human factor the most when a musician is trying hard to play like a strictly repeating looping device ;-)) I have not heard exactly that "out there" yet (except for classic Reilly, Reich etc pieces), but the music I have ecently bumped into that became my favorite are mostly YouTube uploads by Steve Adelson and Jan Laurenz. They both play The Stick. Instead of being "you vs your looper" the Stick lets you become two jamming musicians "each hand being its own musician". But I think stick playing can be different than duo jamming because those two jamming hands are still being directed by the same brain - a phenomenal hot-wire out of reach for two duo jamming musicians. To me Stick playing seems able to pick up where live looping reaches certain outer limits. Keth Jarret was into this as well for a period, on the piano. And I've heard other piano players doing it as well. http://www.youtube.com/user/sprugian http://www.youtube.com/user/Adelstick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 17 22:12:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE5CA3BE92; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261087970; bh=75l2v9ccjjsgG7mAdgOZD6JsZN+mqxefmNXmfJnTo0k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BEcBpYNOHZmxDvN/4iWnY2ucDCBPzeXrQANu4l5ms421Oy0hQUb55NA6fHbqLvJEmnmDebiM6FYT1yuNEWbH9bV7q1iT6D1Eic0KL8dG49XNHUO2cLnkapK899a6SXqwX0uUASX7i+BFOGCT8PPt2fyc9GNDsHRfn92fGzNB4UI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q8LkibgjqCxs6e6ioZ9lAIuEZ4kHT5Odd5oXCwITZ3YkI0+17SnbEMdPOulphmV//N6CAkqOMJQCIEonYB9HK1bHURtGm2MC5Xe9owYJby94+UDmi86Kbm42dvJ27080WjasFpcGm+teKenb2rAgt5g3FrZz3mzxMmYWCX76fYE=; Message-ID: <558817.90884.qm@web45905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EMIJ6YYVM1n6GLT3DFW65gtMOQYjmPNhePCQ2968416uRSkzToWsSi8p8Rgt5IUa5HEKv7zjY7eZpGrYMe13_4QHKdYha9JRclWsXgPiYEn.VBCRG1lR.DXZJyWAJDY0txML7cTvl8SR3ilrdJp.4nCg3JwBtr.wb3kHxyLjrjpnvQY2VX.ZSQ252BMQeB79rKjwYOqSr1D60J_mibWIXQ7_3sIMpwhz7CLMugD9cZ1vb4i5vzgH6Bl5ZluEKXTxO6l.KqvYzWBDyeR1Og8qugidfjcVejPQk40- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <336598.39467.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <000301ca7eca$5c6d7010$15485030$@com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:12:50 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Favorite 2009 music you think may have used live looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000301ca7eca$5c6d7010$15485030$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-44346894-1261087970=:90884" Resent-Message-ID: <_WV4pC.A.ABB.jzqKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:12:51 +0000 (UTC) --0-44346894-1261087970=:90884 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second that, saw them perform "e" live and it was great.=0A=0A=0A=0A_____= ___________________________=0AFrom: Tony K bigtonyk@gmail.com=0A=0A=0AAdria= n Belew Power Trio =E2=80=93 e.=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0=0AWonderful stuff.=0A=C2=A0= =0ATony=0A=C2=A0=0A=0AWhat's your favorite music=C2=A0from 2009 you think m= ay have used live looping?=0A=0A=0A --0-44346894-1261087970=:90884 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=0A=0A --0-44346894-1261087970=:90884-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 00:22:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B34703BE8C; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B2ACB11.50407@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:21:37 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9MNIS.A.fwE.QtsKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:22:40 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Indra. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Tripura Sundari," the third of the Special Edition Tantric Celebration albums. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#dec Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 00:48:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E5AB3BE8F; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1QQUTfc5gPMA:10 a=Hm0DGdme5oaF1FpnpWoA:9 a=AvZeZ16cmWVvYVJISYrT9JlL28AA:4 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.190.240.225 Message-ID: <4B2AD22A.9000602@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:51:54 -0500 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live looping on the Eigenharp Pico References: <1f6442e00912161730l1b8160b4w32c46e9e768016c7@mail.gmail.com> <4B299E6A.4050904@gmail.com> <1f6442e00912171159lbb8b658g957f8c3704952990@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1f6442e00912171159lbb8b658g957f8c3704952990@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6O3IaD.A.GjF.MFtKLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > Hey Brian, > > The Eigenharp can be configured to play chromatically, major, minor, > modal, jazz ... any scale configuration you like! You can swap keys and > octaves 'on the fly' which is really handy ~ I've been lucky enough to > be down at Eigenlabs a couple of times in London and have met the team > and tried out the Alpha instrument too which is also amazing. > > It's quite an exciting instrument to be getting to grips with and I'm > slowly but surely gaining confidence! > > Kayla Thanks, Kayla. It does look very interesting. For a woodwind player, the idea that you can play chords is really appealing. I see that you get sharps and flats by rocking the keys; it seems that the small keyboard isn't nearly the limitation I thought. 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Sincerely, Mr. Bruce Almond From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 11:10:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F873BE88; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B2B63AD.2030405@mnet-online.de> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:12:45 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: referencing back to loopers References: <684DF472-AD5A-4CDB-8C27-FE3165809C9A@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <684DF472-AD5A-4CDB-8C27-FE3165809C9A@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <6iweeB.A.n6H.BN2KLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Zoe > I just tell everyone "I learned everything I know from people on the the > Loopers Delight list". > > Maybe I should be doing a better job to direct newbies to the right > place? What is the right place? You don't learn swimming by tapping in a puddle on the street - it requires deep water. I think this list is fine also for newbies. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 11:13:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BE8A3BE88; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Vipre-Scanned: 01C8A9BF0015BF01C8AB0C-TDI Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <659e524f0912171125w6b787576mf5740090e40bb44b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <659e524f0912171125w6b787576mf5740090e40bb44b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Social Networking Benefits to Independent Musicians Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:12:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, > 1. Firstly, when did you discover the Internet? In the mid-1980s while using a connection to it, known at the time as Telenet (a GTE project). I've been involved with PCs since 1980 so dealing with communications was a default situation; I worked through the old CompuServe system, and when the Internet became available to the general public I was implementing it at businesses in the LA area, but had already been accessing newsgroups via text-based bulletin boards. > 2. If so, how has the Internet been of a benefit to you as an artist, > or other artists you know? In addition to more available, cheaper technology, the Internet made it possible for artists to self-publish, without having to grovel to some cigar-chomper at a music company just for the privilege. > 3. Can you think of any negative effects internet technologies have > had on artists (for example, say, people getting annoyed by the > e-flying that swamped message boards on MySpace or perhaps very > expensive and very annoying advertising campaigns by the majors)? People definitely count it as a necessity like telephone coverage these days... and potentially take it for granted as a result, considering also the usual effects of saturation on a market. > 4. Do you think the way artists use the internet has changed in the > last 10 years, and do you think this will change in the next 10, if > so, how? I think artists have assumed more control over their use of the Internet, but there are two sides of Internet use on the part of artists: first there are those who self-publish on their own web sites in combination with those run by 3rd party companies (myspace etc); and there are those who just use the 3rd party sites. I don't include established artists in that division, but the same paradigm tends to apply: established artists who do their own thing (example: Todd Rundgren has been in advance of most musicians in this regard for some time, so he's an oddity statistically. David Bowie of course does not manage his own Myspace page - but Steve Hunter, Lou Reed's/Alice Cooper's guitarist, certainly does manage it himself) but I suspect most Myspace/Facebook/etc pages for established artists are run either by fans or by subalterns assigned to the role. I believe that in the next 10 years the graduation away from established music companies will continue, and some brave souls out there will break away from said companies, to form their own concern. They'll have experience in music publishing with all the inherent issues like royalties and writing credits etc, and will hopefully know how to apply these practices in an honest manner, to provide not just publishing services but also distribution and marketing efforts. This will be a new business model with less middlemen and therefore more revenue for the creators than the purveyors. (After all the Big Four/Five are only really very good at the distribution and marketing aspects, and certainly not A&R anymore, the absence of new talent being the glaring evidence. Once they figure out this factor and have positioned themselves for the non-publishing elements such as these, the rest of the world will have outstripped them altogether.) In 1996 I put my first web page up, throwing my own music onto the web for listening (RealAudio). That same year I collaborated with a programmer friend to create a self-executing encapsulated sound file dubbed The Loop of the Week, which still runs under Windows 7 and reportedly PC-capable Macs. After people had heard my music I was asked to put it on a tape to send people, and after this I thought of the notion of selling it online, but decided to wait for recordable CDs to come along for less than �300, which they did in 1998-9. I became more engaged in the technical end, while concentrating on public performance instead of web promos. In the meantime mp3.com had come and gone, due to bad management and having a goal to sell out to a music corporation ultimately; I was an MIS Director by this time at a music company, and those people's assessments of online music or file-sharing was restricted to being able to pronounce the word "Napster", when they were asking me to install it on their work PCs. No kidding! P2P was never seen as anything but a resource the music corporations wished they had full control over, as opposed to the role of a passive user - and it was only through subjugation via lawsuit, followed by outright purchase, that Napster became 'controlled'. By then it was too late, and us cats were out of their bag altogether. Independent musicians are now producing full video streaming shows, the only thing presently lacking being full-surround and cheap video mixing real-time. Cave people in the music corporations haven't caught up to that one either! [snicker] As you can tell I have a lot of opinions from having worked in IT for over 25 years while maintaining an interest in creating new music, and having a 4-year business degree (Bus. Administration, with contract law), and will go on as long as you like. Thanks for asking! Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.tv http://www.ustream.tv/StephenGoodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman > I really hope you can help me out, and if you do, you'll be cited in > my report:) So far I've managed to get a handful responses - of which > most are from UK artists, although I have managed to get a couple of > willing New York antifolkers involved, as well as my boss at the > venue. > > Thanks for reading, look forward to hearing back from you. > > Andy From barrfrankwilliams_ch@inmail24.com Fri Dec 18 13:12:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1048 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:12:23 UTC Received: from mail.ph.ae (mail.ph.ae [80.227.107.250]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035A23BE84; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([41.189.10.16]) by mail.ph.ae with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:36:22 +0400 Reply-To: From: "Barrister Frank Jorge Williams Esq." 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From barrfrankwilliams_ch@inmail24.com Fri Dec 18 13:19:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1517 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:19:23 UTC Received: from mail.ph.ae (mail.ph.ae [80.227.107.250]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481053BE84; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([41.189.10.16]) by mail.ph.ae with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:36:22 +0400 Reply-To: From: "Barrister Frank Jorge Williams Esq." Subject: Attention: Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:48:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2009 12:36:55.0553 (UTC) FILETIME=[C86CEF10:01CA7FDE] To: undisclosed-recipients:;

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 14:47:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 865683BE86; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MH5NcRq5Z83I+EFgTAk1QYb5TqodsowaEc2oZ+NfHtE=; b=qklTYEB1Fm28/rTY3x+KZOOBAjNCDsMHBbJawmUoqoweJL4iZwycwFzCngBRnyeyc4 viq1P+EBuhFvo/rgGNJMx3dRu5y/gkbJ+w+/z783nA6L9LnesPB90AW165aXfr+Rtml0 eX8m6HmpMmfi8M4bkXe+osw/yiw8RlEg1ue4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vOBDhQKmr2nwzcbKkb6Frbc+Y2Go0aG7JX3ozR011v4m7AmcwBkiB7h9eIf/qFd1u4 cwU9MGj6UEZz0X4Wxq0MOXZW7nO5ENO1obbJW7VUSwh7FaTI2vNNOfsQrnqlmEj21bl/ WQK6IZSbDdLAwDW7831JlqhZVJqQYH2IJGadQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <659e524f0912171125w6b787576mf5740090e40bb44b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:47:46 -0600 Message-ID: <33ec6e8a0912180647y6277a9f8u8357498cec770237@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Social Networking Benefits to Independent Musicians From: skunk3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:47:48 +0000 (UTC) I liked reading this! On 12/18/09, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Hi Andy, > >> 1. Firstly, when did you discover the Internet? > > In the mid-1980s while using a connection to it, known at the time as > Telenet (a GTE project). I've been involved with PCs since 1980 so deali= ng > with communications was a default situation; I worked through the old > CompuServe system, and when the Internet became available to the general > public I was implementing it at businesses in the LA area, but had alread= y > been accessing newsgroups via text-based bulletin boards. > >> 2. If so, how has the Internet been of a benefit to you as an artist, >> or other artists you know? > > In addition to more available, cheaper technology, the Internet made it > possible for artists to self-publish, without having to grovel to some > cigar-chomper at a music company just for the privilege. > >> 3. Can you think of any negative effects internet technologies have >> had on artists (for example, say, people getting annoyed by the >> e-flying that swamped message boards on MySpace or perhaps very >> expensive and very annoying advertising campaigns by the majors)? > > People definitely count it as a necessity like telephone coverage these > days... and potentially take it for granted as a result, considering also > the usual effects of saturation on a market. > >> 4. Do you think the way artists use the internet has changed in the >> last 10 years, and do you think this will change in the next 10, if >> so, how? > > I think artists have assumed more control over their use of the Internet, > but there are two sides of Internet use on the part of artists: first the= re > are those who self-publish on their own web sites in combination with tho= se > run by 3rd party companies (myspace etc); and there are those who just us= e > the 3rd party sites. I don't include established artists in that divisio= n, > but the same paradigm tends to apply: established artists who do their ow= n > thing (example: Todd Rundgren has been in advance of most musicians in th= is > regard for some time, so he's an oddity statistically. David Bowie of cou= rse > does not manage his own Myspace page - but Steve Hunter, Lou Reed's/Alice > Cooper's guitarist, certainly does manage it himself) but I suspect most > Myspace/Facebook/etc pages for established artists are run either by fans= or > by subalterns assigned to the role. > > I believe that in the next 10 years the graduation away from established > music companies will continue, and some brave souls out there will break > away from said companies, to form their own concern. They'll have > experience in music publishing with all the inherent issues like royaltie= s > and writing credits etc, and will hopefully know how to apply these > practices in an honest manner, to provide not just publishing services bu= t > also distribution and marketing efforts. This will be a new business mod= el > with less middlemen and therefore more revenue for the creators than the > purveyors. (After all the Big Four/Five are only really very good at the > distribution and marketing aspects, and certainly not A&R anymore, the > absence of new talent being the glaring evidence. Once they figure out t= his > factor and have positioned themselves for the non-publishing elements suc= h > as these, the rest of the world will have outstripped them altogether.) > > In 1996 I put my first web page up, throwing my own music onto the web fo= r > listening (RealAudio). That same year I collaborated with a programmer > friend to create a self-executing encapsulated sound file dubbed The Loop= of > the Week, which still runs under Windows 7 and reportedly PC-capable Macs= . > After people had heard my music I was asked to put it on a tape to send > people, and after this I thought of the notion of selling it online, but > decided to wait for recordable CDs to come along for less than =A3300, wh= ich > they did in 1998-9. I became more engaged in the technical end, while > concentrating on public performance instead of web promos. In the meanti= me > mp3.com had come and gone, due to bad management and having a goal to sel= l > out to a music corporation ultimately; I was an MIS Director by this time= at > a music company, and those people's assessments of online music or > file-sharing was restricted to being able to pronounce the word "Napster"= , > when they were asking me to install it on their work PCs. No kidding! P= 2P > was never seen as anything but a resource the music corporations wished t= hey > had full control over, as opposed to the role of a passive user - and it = was > only through subjugation via lawsuit, followed by outright purchase, that > Napster became 'controlled'. By then it was too late, and us cats were o= ut > of their bag altogether. > > Independent musicians are now producing full video streaming shows, the o= nly > thing presently lacking being full-surround and cheap video mixing > real-time. Cave people in the music corporations haven't caught up to th= at > one either! [snicker] > > As you can tell I have a lot of opinions from having worked in IT for ove= r > 25 years while maintaining an interest in creating new music, and having = a > 4-year business degree (Bus. Administration, with contract law), and will= go > on as long as you like. > > Thanks for asking! > > Stephen Goodman > http://www.earthlight.tv > http://www.ustream.tv/StephenGoodman > http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman > http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman > > >> I really hope you can help me out, and if you do, you'll be cited in >> my report:) So far I've managed to get a handful responses - of which >> most are from UK artists, although I have managed to get a couple of >> willing New York antifolkers involved, as well as my boss at the >> venue. >> >> Thanks for reading, look forward to hearing back from you. >> >> Andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 15:37:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 437173BE8D; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B2BA238.9070600@het.it> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:39:36 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo liverani User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; it; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Social Networking Benefits to Independent Musicians References: <659e524f0912171125w6b787576mf5740090e40bb44b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <659e524f0912171125w6b787576mf5740090e40bb44b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:37:35 +0000 (UTC) 1. Firstly, when did you discover the Internet? In 1996 2. If so, how has the Internet been of a benefit to you as an artist, or other artists you know? Yes, internet has been a benefit under several points of wiev: 1 to obtain freeware software and tecnical support 2 to keep in contact people from different coutries but with same approach 3 to organize events and shows and so on! 3. Can you think of any negative effects internet technologies have had on artists (for example, say, people getting annoyed by th e-flying that swamped message boards on MySpace or perhaps very expensive and very annoying advertising campaigns by the majors)? Yes a little but not so much negative, in my opinion the only negative aspect is the power of the infinite quantity of stuffs and possibilities that the web and tecnology in genre offer. But i think that positive aspects are the mains. 4. Do you think the way artists use the internet has changed in the last 10 years, and do you think this will change in the next 10, if so, how? Yes surely! things are more simple with internet, internet can join people and can really make the difference in quantity. But all this has a its back of the medal: giving to everybody this stuffs can drammatically reduce the quality and flatters the offers we must use it with consciusness (can we say it?) and responsability. In the future theese problems will be even more important and relevant. Thank you Max Liver (Florence . Italy) > I really hope you can help me out, and if you do, you'll be cited in > my report:) So far I've managed to get a handful responses - of which > most are from UK artists, although I have managed to get a couple of > willing New York antifolkers involved, as well as my boss at the > venue. > > Thanks for reading, look forward to hearing back from you. > > Andy > > > > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 17:13:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF8323BE8C; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=8mMZZnS47RhhtADF9zQxLnyAwg7fgPS5FXQgB3rGIys=; b=QUntjdSMNzTIQ4h5JePDYG7gGAtwSCD2DVF6B9awty6dJPJgIq6aqZp7JQvoX319uN Z6VZP1et1IPwAsEr9LXFazIxNBv12aNRYwjGAp3gsUM+CQpS4tMsgB7zuCclugm6/jWA 3bFrajmI1hploPslcyGmRidyOCjuEsHM598zI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hBkxZ7JhNflECuybx2vSifHl9IdP0Ano6t9lxSfuxH+ieO3F1SP+GNnJIrTSY8srKP iS4EcsMiWfa6XNQjRgLZKmANK2Enh+bxE3/40ggEJkh2taHb1GSwH5LloDCglQ5Lv7gt +W2OJuqvtTp1EwDwB4dq4zp9qCdC8x+fIVLjA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:13:20 -0500 Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b0912180913u79405200mc8bd985349ec126a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: the $10 foot controller.. From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:13:21 +0000 (UTC) I thought I'd share this link I came across in case nobody else did - thought you would all enjoy this little article. http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/02/get-loopy-with-the-diy-10-ableton-footcontroller-no-soldering-required/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 17:34:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 882533BE8A; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261157678; bh=KN2EWrIAFB75deBZAWDT5xTvD5opCVUnyOk+Bmor6SM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eCZVh6VWU2GNI7J4NV+c3ihg7+PJ9wn33YAKzHhLoeTV3IwWceRv7NN7M5sLaq/kLm0TqFWbq0pmQJshFO3J9s09QU8sQ+LEX/BYgOcfF1drPVJLYUS0LH16jvoyzK8nZZGo8KqC9omY/pMRcl4UiXT3vn6wjdmkT7lO+COEKTk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CcfzBRj0VXiz8Of4/vBh2HtFNKlglz9/gO/m8HtGT26rxrbcocTbESefUlvhLrUMUE+/TPb96MAqUSKfPacmxtTh7ibyGvHaFkqD1Ples3lmPQRAVoQqluUJFpxPvSr/oUpxD6xACOi8NTcmJ0VPUX0cQRCDW2n7jSgJ71vwr6k=; Message-ID: <226246.86187.qm@web45910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8VMBeQkVM1kK6a9.yC9gIZQ8_O6LZ.VErlTwHzQD4JIV2jJpMK_bVapzEAzA4CHDnxpeFMHgwkl3.ZzJxlYpYLt1WePAQQD.T842M_hKGlMvuhgHqyCsEhHMt70Eckrs3SVODM57BpsbhN7MNyB1ymgv3vSDVW0UIFI1.ppR3LGflO4VdKUygfTCa07v81kIXttcSe2Kw_JPqGqFy5LrgFfIlGOaZCPXRo3EaQvT9dqz176EICqDS9F0YenYZ4KBR2zOPMRp1BeDVCHVi5DTSl8.jopWDuCboLkz835FOK5mouQQt88bNZl5Rkt.yhykLvsiN3T1qvFahqTX X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <684DF472-AD5A-4CDB-8C27-FE3165809C9A@zoekeating.com> <4B2B63AD.2030405@mnet-online.de> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: referencing back to loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B2B63AD.2030405@mnet-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1771368467-1261157677=:86187" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:34:39 +0000 (UTC) --0-1771368467-1261157677=:86187 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I joined the list about 20 months ago with no prior looping knowledge. It is an excellent resource, I have learned a lot about looping and also music production in general(not to mention exposure to previously unknown artists and music). When an interesting topic comes in I save it off to a seperate folder, right now I have 265 saved emails for reference. Many thanks to everyone! Eric ________________________________ From: Florian Anwander To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 6:12:45 AM Subject: Re: referencing back to loopers Hi Zoe > I just tell everyone "I learned everything I know from people on the the Loopers Delight list". > > Maybe I should be doing a better job to direct newbies to the right place? What is the right place? You don't learn swimming by tapping in a puddle on the street - it requires deep water. I think this list is fine also for newbies. Florian --0-1771368467-1261157677=:86187 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I joined the list about 20 months ago with no prior looping knowledge. It is an excellent resource, I have learned a lot about looping and also music production in general(not to mention exposure to previously unknown artists and music). When an interesting topic comes in I save it off to a seperate folder, right now I have 265 saved emails for reference.

Many thanks to everyone!

Eric

From: Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 6:12:45 AM
Subject: Re: referencing back to loopers

Hi Zoe

> I just tell everyone "I learned everything I know from people on the the Loopers Delight list".
>
> Maybe I should be doing a better job to direct newbies to the right place? What is the right place?
You don't learn swimming by tapping in a puddle on the street - it requires deep water. I think this list is fine also for newbies.

Florian

--0-1771368467-1261157677=:86187-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 17:47:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A9563BE91; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=x6Jx3L+DkMlZHVzK/l4aL4snW+mKspuwgACB717Z62A=; b=g65D0hXwo0S46xNritX+bzfHDZkjw+1JfL1AZJQpEp4QoyvyqHpW3bYyMYZKmIwAgv KAofBtJNlIAYTQRHClyXW2zszzSMqIV+bmm39TJaKw57dKsMTVY6y2hqLqwDvw1yT5jZ R2maV3LbmDAMm5jSKAMFCImKX0SIHt7oJxZA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=lF6ja4ZQ4NnR3yodPn6dJnm3KuLoUTxJZY0iSqGW2fRehIxggONlt+TJcLePLEgwZH EIu8CITTIEkUpoeiWnaaMXOTVjG+S0FqN1nBttP0uXduLD1QGXo9LJ5MaIrdd7ByMXcZ Oymf0EF5zIsemkSglcaUk7vkBuIr99FfAHZk4= Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <226246.86187.qm@web45910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-32--616596239 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: referencing back to loopers Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:47:25 +0100 References: <684DF472-AD5A-4CDB-8C27-FE3165809C9A@zoekeating.com> <4B2B63AD.2030405@mnet-online.de> <226246.86187.qm@web45910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:47:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-32--616596239 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm more or less in the same boat - a fantastic site with great people. On Dec 18, 2009, at 6:34 PM, E Gross wrote: > I joined the list about 20 months ago with no prior looping > knowledge. It is an excellent resource, I have learned a lot about > looping and also music production in general(not to mention exposure > to previously unknown artists and music). When an interesting topic > comes in I save it off to a seperate folder, right now I have 265 > saved emails for reference. > > Many thanks to everyone! > > Eric > > From: Florian Anwander > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 6:12:45 AM > Subject: Re: referencing back to loopers > > Hi Zoe > > > I just tell everyone "I learned everything I know from people on > the the Loopers Delight list". > > > > Maybe I should be doing a better job to direct newbies to the > right place? What is the right place? > You don't learn swimming by tapping in a puddle on the street - it > requires deep water. I think this list is fine also for newbies. > > Florian > > > --Apple-Mail-32--616596239 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm more or less in the same = boat - a fantastic site with great people.

On Dec 18, = 2009, at 6:34 PM, E Gross wrote:

I joined the list about 20 months ago with no = prior looping knowledge. It is an excellent resource, I have learned a = lot about looping and also music production in general(not to mention = exposure to previously unknown artists and music). When an interesting = topic comes in I save it off to a seperate folder, right now I have 265 = saved emails for reference.
Many thanks to = everyone!

Eric
From: Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de><= br>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Fri, = December 18, 2009 6:12:45 AM
Re: referencing back to = loopers

Hi Zoe

> I just tell everyone "I learned = everything I know from people on the the Loopers Delight = list".
>
> = Maybe I should be doing a better job to direct newbies to the right = place? What is the right place?
You don't learn swimming by tapping = in a puddle on the street - it requires deep water. I think this list is = fine also for = newbies.

Florian

= --Apple-Mail-32--616596239-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 17:59:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43BAD3BE87; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 303 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:59:46 UTC Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:54:24 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on hons_100/Servers/FarmersInsurance(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 12/18/2009 11:54:42 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:59:47 +0000 (UTC) I will be out of the office starting 12/17/2009 and will not return until 12/21/2009. For telecom issues, Genesys, Video or Audio Conferencing contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793. ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank you.***** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 18:50:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C30D03BE8D; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=LuDZZRHShHiENtbOawUqlBFz+Uh6w6mfzr7kRWn9iiA=; b=XR4Zm03bYjCsjCgS9ztgo3EU5+re1IzuaWusGCTXBVbvu7hcyOeiYG7cyzQQIQGjgg l945xjDgn72yaj+0I7qkyn7a68E5mE0IHmzqGJ3TneT80VvV9073uobpbk8zqQEICfWc +Qp5D+4TA2i4YxTl2RABFOLooX7qSVb6HvoT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xYw3abPJHFEmCY59WUHo9Vbhnbz7c6zdR8ys2rPaylKwsvBWkWmNIuKEa5PvLVWHJR DLpYwgef6E2ykpAoBXiDgv/gRs2bLrQeCdXrmFWcEVL2RGG8cUboD3Q4+JgnQIfunWy2 Nxi9/DQuP62aebMMHlcmYEob0m7VtsgEiYmE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:50:33 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30912181050p601b15a4v501e158fd841fc00@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New Lunar Asylum Track with looping . . . From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c24a0e9232f047b053675 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:50:35 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64c24a0e9232f047b053675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey gang, We've been hitting Facebook with audio and vid's from last weekend's Lunar Asylum session at Eardril Studios in Alameda, and I thought I'd send along a sample. This is ON Topic Looper shit, cause I grab my free-jazz noise and cycle it for the free-jazz section as well as "play" it later when we start to get funky. We haven't played together since 1998, and we had an awesome weekend. There's a wide variety of stuff coming soon. Lunar Asylum is Chris Muir, Scoot Sharon, Bill Austin and Mikko Biffle. Please enjoy! -- Mikko Biffle http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --0016e64c24a0e9232f047b053675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey gang,

We've been hitting Facebook with audio and vid's f= rom last weekend's Lunar Asylum session at Eardril Studios in Alameda, = and I thought I'd send along a sample.=A0 This is ON Topic Looper shit,= cause I grab my free-jazz noise and cycle it for the free-jazz section as = well as "play" it later when we start to get funky.=A0

We haven't played together since 1998, and we had an awesome weeken= d.=A0 There's a wide variety of stuff coming soon.=A0 Lunar Asylum is C= hris Muir, Scoot Sharon, Bill Austin and Mikko Biffle.=A0 Please enjoy!

--
Mikko Biffle
h= ttp://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running scared from all the = usual distractions!"
--0016e64c24a0e9232f047b053675-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 18:51:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B14C83BE91; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sNdrtAYoB9BfuQSUdNZn1WKvOak/QLuu+vNLWKkOL4w=; b=ahuRRuVVWzXI06kJsX0zeGxuCA1mOjepG9pteg08BM0YfKFFol1/03R0DmWPxgJfX0 GxZOn4AzsBACEx2sU11xBaJlHiPaC/Ph4GRUthsdEWWXJB7plhtd0fO6TUg2zl1hQGDz QrByHnMOqndOitZFFMf+rOejLJSN+sjRPCS/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iJZ250Zme9ZDXbNNxbWq1ZyGGeExHeXgjLwQvsKkJOgzNIYjuupjl0WsG46ruc7eIn og3fVJXU5Kx7ACYbCT79K0iKPuJfksz0RLhK4kG4DNbZVshmT/CgSbLlcBuS9i/74zkY zHqTNe6O70/x6xL2V6SjlnnNlVOGhNjtP3dRQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30912181050p601b15a4v501e158fd841fc00@mail.gmail.com> References: <3fa302e30912181050p601b15a4v501e158fd841fc00@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:51:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30912181051q14c0b6c1r465cf0f0d5dffb68@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Lunar Asylum Track with looping . . . From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64e4bdcf8e2fb047b053996 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:51:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64e4bdcf8e2fb047b053996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.xfade.com/lunar/Skrnk2Fnk_01.mp3 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Miko Biffle wrote: > Hey gang, > > We've been hitting Facebook with audio and vid's from last weekend's Lunar > Asylum session at Eardril Studios in Alameda, and I thought I'd send along a > sample. This is ON Topic Looper shit, cause I grab my free-jazz noise and > cycle it for the free-jazz section as well as "play" it later when we start > to get funky. > > We haven't played together since 1998, and we had an awesome weekend. > There's a wide variety of stuff coming soon. Lunar Asylum is Chris Muir, > Scoot Sharon, Bill Austin and Mikko Biffle. Please enjoy! > > -- > Mikko Biffle > http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > -- Mikko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --0016e64e4bdcf8e2fb047b053996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.xfade.co= m/lunar/Skrnk2Fnk_01.mp3

On Fri, Dec = 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey gang,

= We've been hitting Facebook with audio and vid's from last weekend&= #39;s Lunar Asylum session at Eardril Studios in Alameda, and I thought I&#= 39;d send along a sample.=A0 This is ON Topic Looper shit, cause I grab my = free-jazz noise and cycle it for the free-jazz section as well as "pla= y" it later when we start to get funky.=A0

We haven't played together since 1998, and we had an awesome weeken= d.=A0 There's a wide variety of stuff coming soon.=A0 Lunar Asylum is C= hris Muir, Scoot Sharon, Bill Austin and Mikko Biffle.=A0 Please enjoy!

--
Mikko Biffle
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running sc= ared from all the usual distractions!"

--
Mikko Biffle
= Biffoz@Gmail.com
http://w= ww.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running scared from all the usual d= istractions!"
--0016e64e4bdcf8e2fb047b053996-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 21:07:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E60E23BE87; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:07:42 -0600 Subject: Customizable keyboard Thread-Topic: Customizable keyboard Thread-Index: AcqAJiMj0o9XOoMhQs22KDoA5e6V2A== Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714EB82DA232D@barq.sailpoint.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714EB82DA232Dbarqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:07:49 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714EB82DA232Dbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's an interesting "control surface" for software folks I hadn't seen before: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/77ba/ At $140 it isn't exactly cheap, it isn't really large (or durable) enough for a footswitch, and it isn't backlit like the Launchpad. (Okay, maybe it isn't that interesting...:) Still, the ability to configure your own switch layouts to build "instruments" could be useful. Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714EB82DA232Dbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here's an interesting "control surface" for software folks I hadn't

seen before:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/77ba= /

At $140 it isn't exactly cheap, it isn't really large = (or durable)

enough for a footswitch, and it isn't backlit like the Launchpad.

(Okay, maybe it isn't that interesting...:)=

Still, the ability to configure your own switch layout= s to

build "instruments" could be useful.

Jeff

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Information about FDIC pass-through insurance From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 23:18:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEAB63BE8D; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B2C0DDA.1090806@asyouthink.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:18:50 -0800 From: CM User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Customizable keyboard References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714EB82DA232D@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714EB82DA232D@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Very interesting, IMHO -- thanks for posting. : )

Jeff Larson wrote:

Here's an interesting "control surface" for software folks I hadn't

seen before:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/77ba/

At $140 it isn't exactly cheap, it isn't really large (or durable)

enough for a footswitch, and it isn't backlit like the Launchpad.

(Okay, maybe it isn't that interesting...:)

Still, the ability to configure your own switch layouts to

build "instruments" could be useful.

Jeff

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 18 23:31:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0C623BE8C; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1222 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:31:06 UTC Message-Id: <3C5DB929-6B25-423E-BAD5-B8919DDD7E67@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: happy hols Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:10:38 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 8efdf89c-ec2a-11de-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRVfT4bDBpo UEhAUlBRHgRoCx8I SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQE PD8HHCkGY25jYGJR VkFQOQsBJlccdhYW dwUsViIQYGRTM2do RwViemhpZ28BdHxf ElFWIEQSSF4TD3Y8 QBQZdQAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:31:06 +0000 (UTC) dear loopers, i'm checking out for the holidays. please have a wonderful * (insert preferred holiday here) with your loved ones. hope you enjoy this christmas song from pomplamoose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il-OFaFzHQM - zoe From deerparkenrp@btconnect.com Sat Dec 19 04:43:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 500 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:43:36 UTC Received: from c2beaomr01.btconnect.com (c2beaomr01.btconnect.com [213.123.26.179]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9281F3BE85; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (77-22-150-122-dynip.superkabel.de [77.22.150.122]) by c2beaomr01.btconnect.com with ESMTP id ENY06915 (AUTH deerparkenrp@btconnect.com); Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:31:13 GMT Message-Id: <200912190431.ENY06915@c2beaomr01.btconnect.com> Reply-To: From: "ENRIQUE PEIRO" Subject: ( Entitled to You ). Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:31:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Junkmail: UCE(50) X-Junkmail-Status: score=50/50, host=c2beaomr01.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=bulk(0), refid=str=0001.0A0B0207.4B2C5738.001C,ss=3,pt=DBB_66867,fgs=0, ip=77.22.150.122, so=2009-07-20 21:54:04, dmn=5.7.1/2009-08-27, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false To: undisclosed-recipients:; SR ENRIQUE PEIRO epeiro1960@ozu.es After the verdict passed ( October 31st 2007 ), kindly confirm your address, to verify as same on file. This entitle you the Bequeathed of USD$1,546,810.10M ( One Million five hundred and forty six thousand eight hundred and ten dollars). This is in line to victims of the 2004 Madrid Train Bomb blast along Atocha Train Center here in Madrid, Spain. That got 191 people killed, and 1,800 seriously injured. You will be advice as the NEXT OF KIN, upon address verification. Claims are forwarded within 21 official working days. Enrique Peiro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 05:59:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBF493BE8D; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 478 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:59:20 UTC X-Originating-IP: [71.220.158.53] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <3C5DB929-6B25-423E-BAD5-B8919DDD7E67@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <3C5DB929-6B25-423E-BAD5-B8919DDD7E67@zoekeating.com> Subject: Mobius and Max/msp Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:50:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2009 05:51:21.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A61D090:01CA806F] Resent-Message-ID: <3bDZcB.A.TIF.4uGLLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:59:20 +0000 (UTC) I'm using Max/MSP to host Reaktor as a VST using the vst~ object, and I use my FCB MIDI controller pedals to change paraemter values in Reaktor by running the object "midiin a" into a text box with "midievent 176" in it, and then that goes into the left inlet of the vst object. But I want to use Mobius and send program change values. Does anyone know the argument I need to use with midievent to do this? This is driving me nuts. Thanks, Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 06:09:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 455B33BE91; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.158.53] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <3C5DB929-6B25-423E-BAD5-B8919DDD7E67@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Mobius and Max/msp Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:08:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2009 06:09:19.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD5F11E0:01CA8071] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Correction. I run ctlin a 1 or ctlin 2 into "midievent 176 1" to use my FCB pedal. I am using midiin, but I think I'll try notein~ ----- Original Message ----- > I'm using Max/MSP to host Reaktor as a VST using the vst~ object, and I > use my FCB MIDI controller pedals to change paraemter values in Reaktor by > running the object "midiin a" into a text box with "midievent 176" in it, > and then that goes into the left inlet of the vst object. But I want to > use Mobius and send program change values. Does anyone know the argument > I need to use with midievent to do this? This is driving me nuts. > > Thanks, > > Kris > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 09:24:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2FE03BE8F; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B2C9BD2.6030204@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:24:34 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Thought Experiment Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:24:47 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT EXPERIMENT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, December 19 at 6 am (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5). 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Best regards, Mr. Alex Williams ------- Mail.Od.Ua supported by Telematika ISP http://www.odessa.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 16:24:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC5023BE8D; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1261239871; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=eddH4f+gDuv2+Av/Eb8mb7Qs7sM=; b=dtuc5303UwvoPXlE5DCGTidNUN3mNQsCTfPadonPPG6jA30qb0vJgt97bfosxZKr HPMVKzpB94qZMCyxYP/Cf+mdxaX1VaHbvt3J7X+FLkQzCtWwEfltWjo7IPIc+bkk; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oNGiguacdgoAc+GxIX4ra4OJYjRUWrIKnmOl+j8I6ug= c=1 sm=0 a=9fop8Dexs3qUtwUkuF3Xcw==:17 a=qyk2pYupAAAA:8 a=22sk_RCmYg4k8JBe2mYA:9 a=Lh5bwgboWQJ5CghxqnPRD_9jvzMA:4 a=9fop8Dexs3qUtwUkuF3Xcw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000d01ca80c7$beede770$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: virtual gig spam Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:24:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <7Uv39.A.XK._4PLLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopers! Once again I am doing a set of audio/video er, ah, well something interesting I hope at my Livestream channel http://www.livestream.com/jeffdukelive in about 35 minutes. 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Hi Jeff I listened in, you were on fire! ;)

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Kevin Smith" Reply-To: "Barr. Kevin Smith" Subject: Eng. Robert's Estate To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1606706608-1261245419=:24933" --0-1606706608-1261245419=:24933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A Ffrey & co chambers=0Anotary public, solicitors & advocate=0A101 Barbir= olli Square Bridgewater=0AManchester M2 3UL - United Kingdom.=0A=0ADear Fri= end,=0A=0AI am Kevin Smith Esq., a senior advocate here in UK. I am the per= sonal attorney to Eng. Robert, a national of your country, who was till his= death a contractor with shell Petroleum Development Company (SPDC) here in= UK. hereinafter shall be referred to as my client.=0A=0AOn the 21st of Apr= il 2005, my client, his wife and their only daughter were involved in a fir= e outbreak in their residence. All the family members unfortunately lost th= eir lives. Since then I have made several inquiries to your embassy here to= locate any of my clients extended relatives, this has also proved unsucces= sful.=0A=0AI am contacting you to assist in repatriating the fund valued at= =A310,500,000.00 (ten million five hundred thousand pounds) left behind by= my client before it gets confiscated or declared unserviceable by the fina= nce firm where this huge amount was deposited. The said finance company has= issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have the account confisca= ted within the next fourteen official working days. For the fact that i hav= e been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over 3 years now, i seek = your consent to present you as the next of kin to the deceased since you ha= ve the same nationality as well as my client so that the proceeds of this a= ccount can be paid to you while you compensate me in return and donate some= part to charity homes.=0A=0AI will provide the necessary information and l= egal documents needed to back you up for the claim. All i require from you = is your honest cooperation to enable us see this transaction through. I gua= rantee that this will be executed under legitimate arrangement that will pr= otect you from any breach of the law both in your country and that of the U= K.=0A=0APlease reply if you are interested for more details.=0A=0ABest rega= rds,=0A=0AKevin Smith Esq.=0A --0-1606706608-1261245419=:24933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ffrey & co chambers
notary pu= blic, solicitors & advocate
101 Barbirolli Square Bridgewater
Man= chester M2 3UL - United Kingdom.

Dear Friend,

I am Kevin Sm= ith Esq., a senior advocate here in UK. I am the personal attorney to Eng. = Robert, a national of your country, who was till his death a contractor wit= h shell Petroleum Development Company (SPDC) here in UK. hereinafter shall = be referred to as my client.

On the 21st of April 2005, my client, = his wife and their only daughter were involved in a fire outbreak in their = residence. All the family members unfortunately lost their lives. Since the= n I have made several inquiries to your embassy here to locate any of my cl= ients extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful.

I am contacting you to assist in repatriating the fund valued at =A310,500,0= 00.00 (ten million five hundred thousand pounds) left behind by my client b= efore it gets confiscated or declared unserviceable by the finance firm whe= re this huge amount was deposited. The said finance company has issued me a= notice to provide the next of kin or have the account confiscated within t= he next fourteen official working days. For the fact that i have been unsuc= cessful in locating the relatives for over 3 years now, i seek your consent= to present you as the next of kin to the deceased since you have the same = nationality as well as my client so that the proceeds of this account can b= e paid to you while you compensate me in return and donate some part to cha= rity homes.

I will provide the necessary information and legal docu= ments needed to back you up for the claim. All i require from you is your h= onest cooperation to enable us see this transaction through. I guarantee that this will be executed under legitimate arrangement that wil= l protect you from any breach of the law both in your country and that of t= he UK.

Please reply if you are interested for more details.
Best regards,

Kevin Smith Esq.

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--0-1606706608-1261245419=:24933-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 18:04:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA1E83BE8D; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1261245878; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=SWSwEZGZFkAMGmIjJnuHZemFjjs=; b=pWjBeDiDYZKoRpcvKVIBBZ/D6qBQ7lsE1HeD6QFWv3nLH6DtUWsd9F/eYv1SCGSn zWxs/6gA/DHYKD9Lf2RFFTErlspgGEwfcVUhMr+QVkSRUR/iZYjgpw22gkcpLJ8Z; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=SKxP357NtZ+rOGH7ynBEuXUoQgyp9+s5qctaMJ+OyUM= c=1 sm=0 a=9fop8Dexs3qUtwUkuF3Xcw==:17 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=3zU57uE99eKoxQAKRaUA:9 a=YH5H3o0dakHtsfFhqHPJjdkevZsA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=OGbRly04tyCKBtQtgusA:9 a=9pxYj6weHFUlI0cms8IA:7 a=A_xPNiRimLT9eZlRNYnqqKBE6EcA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=9fop8Dexs3qUtwUkuF3Xcw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001101ca80d5$bb615cf0$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca80c7$beede770$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> <933512.57702.qm@web45904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: virtual gig spam Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:04:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA80AB.D24D6190" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:04:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA80AB.D24D6190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you very much Eric, thanks for watching! j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: E Gross=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: Re: virtual gig spam Hi Jeff I listened in, you were on fire! ;) ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA80AB.D24D6190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you very much Eric, thanks for=20 watching!

j

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 E Gross=20
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Sent: Saturday, December 19, = 2009 12:43=20 PM

Subject: Re: virtual gig = spam

Hi Jeff I listened in, you were on fire! ;)

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 20:18:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8C383BE8A; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=I4gkbT5t0N9E49EXfATrBB4dfQs9EmENuEsjSlxbPLQ=; b=XovrKy6c7u41NxfuNANI3BjK7HEeyvQgV+EPdjUqa0tp4aIjhffQsGys2C1THxIjFf 2tVsL+sHlRrXaVadRqqakHeqdlSYUwur9V8c4hOf5GLx9OCLQsEbVA1I9jhE1coKhgjX nDpxzMM3imvc97RQwTi+z+79ymCgD65B7goyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=c+IMK8lIQOkFkf6PyYv6f1vUiN5XouiezauVSM6OLKWThA68A1zthF/MZbST8ZODXZ VIw+8Dp9hQGgaP66nXV9Y8VJ9Hy3LbzNoqV5+WOgU9Bm1BJZlknh1kFskIzCI+FMnqgo WSoqHkYQyytI6MDICobqVX6zJs6bcz8uWq0BY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001101ca80d5$bb615cf0$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000d01ca80c7$beede770$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> <933512.57702.qm@web45904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001101ca80d5$bb615cf0$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:18:08 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 114933dcade1703c Message-ID: <37f071c00912191218t2d64257eo40520d2ad964f9dc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: virtual gig spam From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <_95rwB.A.pxF.CUTLLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:18:10 +0000 (UTC) I only caught a little bit but I really enjoyed it as well. Kevin On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Thank you very much Eric, thanks for watching! > > j > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: E Gross > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: virtual gig spam > Hi Jeff I listened in, you were on fire! ;) > > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 20:31:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AAF93BE8B; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=VTCqWchRHnSSCe0L4krnkxgXz36g0W6pCiKpPUQkqM4=; b=VCIrdS2jmPm6T4fZ407hyNWiXHyy/kIRy48W8jcaTFI7u4SueBdI6XydyK1n18WHu0 lrAM8GZym9NjxujqmM8KXa2ULwOFKjDrcGRN71yGeBnyHa5orbonXXUJ61GuLnNyqcli 8dLMajvVMHhzYfgY/LlhaAvIF9Po5056/cvZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xr/6jIN1dAkwI1UcGtIJt0mhQAAwSgBQ8HwAkIStIgtbWVU00Gxcw5Ir77lZOOlCoX PiaQhCGVmaV7/A2z8lO/hmd9x7cWaLcWE68tZbgznuJc4aLHnB0V/VKaVvHYIP9zCsLP 0x6N4TPktCQmjkwHN2MlqqxLUMpo9TQCZMZDM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:31:07 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> Subject: So long for now From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c24a06a36ef047b1abcf6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64c24a06a36ef047b1abcf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Gang, After years of watching this community grow and change I'm thinking it might be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspects of my life. There are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'll still keep an eye on each other on FaceBook, where most of my activity resides now. If you're not a friend of mine yet, please hit me up! I'd love to see you over there! All the best, -- Mikko Biffle http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --0016e64c24a06a36ef047b1abcf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gang,

After years of watching this community grow and change I= 9;m thinking it might be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspect= s of my life.=A0 There are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'= ;ll still keep an eye on each other on FaceBook, where most of my activity = resides now.=A0 If you're not a friend of mine yet, please hit me up! I= 'd love to see you over there!=A0

All the best,
--
Mikko Biffle
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running sca= red from all the usual distractions!"
--0016e64c24a06a36ef047b1abcf6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 21:12:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC5D23BE8F; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=WpH8qjQsr0N0sH5GARgA:9 a=hVF8X0WNPkZyfq3iZKn3MuOnXTkA:4 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: So long for now Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:12:38 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Ciao Mikko! See you over on FB. Stay in touch. On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > Hi Gang, > > After years of watching this community grow and change I'm thinking > it might be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspects of > my life. There are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'll > still keep an eye on each other on FaceBook, where most of my > activity resides now. If you're not a friend of mine yet, please > hit me up! I'd love to see you over there! > > All the best, > -- > Mikko Biffle > http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 23:23:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE8003BE95; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1261264993; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=tdYoqm/vx+qtAzVRmO18yTUlRag=; b=TVpPk1nTSO3DJxfQI07leBJ+i+pXof2RSjiynCjK1/vzcOZP334GfMP7dGSZhcPB VMqi32B5CZpay/H6iwgvGoLka9Kfel1NGM8LBixPYvBPEN2Rbqu0NaJGcNj6IA7b; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oNGiguacdgoAc+GxIX4ra4OJYjRUWrIKnmOl+j8I6ug= c=1 sm=0 a=9fop8Dexs3qUtwUkuF3Xcw==:17 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=qyk2pYupAAAA:8 a=kpHFvfvXAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=OJmqQF96aGYnSINv8QoA:9 a=q2bt8kinefyNRvq58zMA:7 a=QG75-4tyNF35esEiAeEBIE9rl-4A:4 a=Sfrf-_KrAt0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=9fop8Dexs3qUtwUkuF3Xcw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002001ca8102$3cc54780$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca80c7$beede770$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> <933512.57702.qm@web45904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001101ca80d5$bb615cf0$bff63747@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00912191218t2d64257eo40520d2ad964f9dc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: virtual gig spam Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:23:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Cool Kevin, glad you dug it. Thanks for coming by! Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.livestream.com/jeffdukelive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:18 PM Subject: Re: virtual gig spam >I only caught a little bit but I really enjoyed it as well. > > Kevin > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> Thank you very much Eric, thanks for watching! >> >> j >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: E Gross >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:43 PM >> Subject: Re: virtual gig spam >> Hi Jeff I listened in, you were on fire! ;) >> >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 19 23:27:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B36D3BEAE; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3749 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:27:21 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=KVUlS2wphs73mHB9OOFoMMXOQBH5Yncl99pqARlYgb0CppgQ/7C9sjplrSRLjAoR; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <5DB61AF2-E84B-40D4-AC28-C672BC487DDD@earthlink.net> From: Paul Sullivan To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17--513549751 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: NYC gig spam: Lambic Jones live at Union Hall in Park Slope. Brooklyn. Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:24:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7912276d91ec04061e59ee658e260e2933350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.215.134.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:27:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-17--513549751 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI, everyone we're looking forward to playing at Union Hall in Park Slope on Sunday December 20th at 8 pm. We'll be doing one show in the downstairs performance space, and then our friends the Marvin Barnes Time Machine will do their psychedelic set. Come to think of it, we'll probably be pretty psychedelic ourselves... Union Hall is located on Union Street at 5th avenue http://unionhallny.com/home.php Lambic Jones is Lambic (Paul Sullivan-guitar and Stephen Moses-drums and trombone) plus the legendary Percy Jones on bass. We've just released the latest video of Lambic Jones at the Tea Lounge in Park Slope on September 25th. This is the third segment of a 3 part tune, if you watch them in sequence. Here they are, all in order: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMy5No89nw8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDjVabk03aA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXd72VcdknY (the new one) Hope to see you there, and Happy Holidays from Lambic Jones! http://www.myspace.com/lambic --Apple-Mail-17--513549751 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI, = everyone

we're looking forward to playing = at Union Hall in Park Slope on Sunday December 20th at 8 pm. We'll = be doing one show in the downstairs performance space, and then our = friends the Marvin Barnes Time Machine will do their = psychedelic set. Come to think of it, we'll probably be pretty = psychedelic ourselves...

Union Hall is = located on Union Street at 5th avenue http://unionhallny.com/home.php

Lambic Jones is Lambic (Paul = Sullivan-guitar and Stephen Moses-drums and trombone) plus the legendary = Percy Jones on bass.

We've just released the latest = video of Lambic Jones at the Tea Lounge in Park Slope on September 25th. = This is the third segment of a 3 part tune, if you watch them in = sequence. Here they are, all in order:
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http://www.myspace.com/lambic

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This tie a 24 hour special to celebrtate the Winter Solstice. There will probably be quite a lot of looping involved, though it wont be all looped stuff. It would be great if some of you could drop by to watch/listen/say hello. Best wishes to you all, Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk Solstice Soundings 20th-21st December 2009 Starts: Sunday 20 December at 18:00 GMT Ends: Monday 21 December at 18:00 GMT Starts 6:00pm UK time on Sunday 20th December. International times here: http://bit.ly/6K3k9p I will be playing live improvised music for 24 hours to celebrate the Winter Solstice. Expect guitars, cello, xaphoon, sundry unspecified instruments, some very long loops and numerous cups of tea. To watch live go to: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain From magenik@risingdev.com Sun Dec 20 12:30:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 158598 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:30:17 UTC Received: from server1.celion.nl (celion.nl [85.92.141.130]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154323BE8B for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apache by server1.celion.nl with local (Exim 4.54) id 1NLgmI-0007Aa-Kt for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:38:11 +0100 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Urgent Enquiry From: Mallam Nasir el-Rufai Reply-To: timiala@voila.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:38:10 +0100 Dear Sir, I apologize for intruding into your privacy. It is due to the dire situation that I am facing. My name is Mallam Nasir el-Rufai, the former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory (FCT-Abuja, Nigeria) during the government of President Olusegun Obasanjo, which handed over to the Yar` Adua government (current) in 2007. I have some money I want you to receive, invest and manage for me in safety and confidentiality till my situation is resolved. Your gender and occupation does not matter. And you don�t have any reason to fear and worry on your side. I deposited the fund in my name, by myself and for myself. The fund is free from drugs, terrorism, or money laundering. The amount is US$16Million (Sixteen Million United States Dollars), which I quietly deposited cash (in the vault) with a private security and vaults company. I will disclose the location and more information to you as soon as you indicate your readiness to assist. As you know, it would require me to issue a power of attorney in your favor to put you in the legal position to retrieve and manage the fund on my behalf. So send me the following items urgently: 1. Your full name and address 2. Your cell phone number 3. The picture page of your international passport. Those are the items I need to issue the Power of attorney to empower the security company to release my deposit (US$16M) to you immediately. You would keep 10% of the US$16Million as your compensation, and another 5% to compensate for your expenses. I may require you to invest and manage the remaining 85% for me till the near future, to enable me sustain my family on the profit from such investment. Having said that, I hope you would not turn against me as soon as this deposit is released to you. This has been giving me lots of worries and concern. This is because this US$16M is all I have for my family. The current Government framed and accused me of corruption and mismanagement of over US$300M (Three Hundred Million U.S. dollars) being proceeds from the sales of Government properties in the Federal capital territory, Abuja, in accordance to the governments monetization policy during my time as a minister. They are doing this because when I was the minister, I stepped on some powerful toes by revoking their illegally acquired land titles, and I demolished the illegal structures they built in contravention of the Abuja master plan. Unfortunately for me, their political camp won the last presidential election and they are in strategic positions now. So they are using their positions to torment me. Please read the following article: http://odili.net/news/source/2009/jul/20/610.html The Government has frozen all my accounts in Nigeria and seized all my properties since I left the country. I was initially staying in the USA but later decided to relocate to UK where I am staying now. United Kingdom has no extradition treaty with Nigeria and British government knows that the charges are politically motivated and has therefore accommodated and supported me here as a political refugee. Please call me or email me urgently. at: timiala@voila.fr Yours sincerely, Mallam Nasir el-Rufai Cell: +44 703 188 3994 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 20 13:04:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66BB43BEBA; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Vipre-Scanned: 03F2BD880015C203F2BED5-TDI Message-ID: <9D3298AFE57247F1A3650777B9B6A2A3@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <001d01ca816d$e699fbf0$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> In-Reply-To: <001d01ca816d$e699fbf0$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> Subject: Re: More virtual gig spam - Solstice Soundings 20-21 December Live on Ustream.tv Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:04:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Solstice is at 17:47 GMT Monday so color me there! I think I'll do a show of my own following yours, on the 21st in the evening, full of mulled wine. Uh, 11pm? Perhaps I'll do Livestream this time instead of ustream... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Moyes" Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:13 PM To: Subject: More virtual gig spam - Solstice Soundings 20-21 December Live on Ustream.tv > Hello dear Loopists, > Bothering you for probably the last time this year with another one of my > webgigs. This tie a 24 hour special to celebrtate the Winter Solstice. > There will probably be quite a lot of looping involved, though it wont be > all looped stuff. > It would be great if some of you could drop by to watch/listen/say hello. > Best wishes to you all, > Steve > www.stevemoyes.org.uk > > Solstice Soundings > > 20th-21st December 2009 > Starts: Sunday 20 December at 18:00 GMT > Ends: Monday 21 December at 18:00 GMT > > Starts 6:00pm UK time on Sunday 20th December. International times here: > http://bit.ly/6K3k9p > I will be playing live improvised music for 24 hours to celebrate the > Winter Solstice. > > Expect guitars, cello, xaphoon, sundry unspecified instruments, some very > long loops and numerous cups of tea. > > To watch live go to: > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 20 14:12:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C25F3BEB9; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=v/3683ika9X0ZptPdeX7R+M/eCIx23eaZi8OGfSjtsw=; b=EETT8U91BhPVVEB+rP8ShVUXMnCJsJPKdyn7NLmwMAOOEvPtEqMHQW8ixjMivlURd+ 9hrpy/PJ3Ls8DlU+0RF3RqUjQXqd2/54hGLsPoW74geko9ihud61aiSxVQz5NBwVNtjI vqISUhoWQYmwM7/Jvp+T/C+Wd242HidWcBsx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tP2ZVgt06rUwg9u6mIRg0i9DyJJev1M6e/hEfxTvrvp8eVQVGSbaQG91yB1jhEEXR/ BOOikdsu2TZHQ7IZbFan2mO7OY/Y3el4T7dfOfzhk7mLpFSQk/MkOMQfeCCoejSBpXwr CKp4IAo48xnutXr3vlGx00o8GuD2Wbl4p8y0g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:12:06 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cd1c064d268dc098 Message-ID: <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: So long for now From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367d60b0d280b2047b298e71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:12:09 +0000 (UTC) --0016367d60b0d280b2047b298e71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bye, Mikko. I will miss your contributions. On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Ciao Mikko! > > See you over on FB. > > Stay in touch. > > On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > > Hi Gang, >> >> After years of watching this community grow and change I'm thinking it >> might be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspects of my life. >> There are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'll still keep an= eye >> on each other on FaceBook, where most of my activity resides now. If yo= u're >> not a friend of mine yet, please hit me up! I'd love to see you over the= re! >> >> All the best, >> -- >> Mikko Biffle >> http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz >> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" >> > > --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --0016367d60b0d280b2047b298e71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bye, Mikko. I will miss your contributions.

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <<= a href=3D"mailto:tedkillian@charter.net">tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

Ciao Mikko!

See you over on FB.

Stay in touch.

On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Miko Biffle wrote:

Hi Gang,

After years of watching this community grow and change I'm thinking it = might be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspects of my life. = =A0There are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'll still keep= an eye on each other on FaceBook, where most of my activity resides now. = =A0If you're not a friend of mine yet, please hit me up! I'd love t= o see you over there!

All the best,
--
Mikko Biffle
http://www= .reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"

--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops= , Live & Otw
http:= //www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
--0016367d60b0d280b2047b298e71-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 20 16:39:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E6E53BE80; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ywSvyLwn/eBpJChZIRMZsHwgI5ZdIhHzjDD2Os7Y+6A=; b=r5TqcIvfAzl968tIytteO8my6OM5EZoJfSZhk/e8YW8FXT0TnMZa6w44Ksr3rDW9rh GVp0ClKR+0dtv+IgBdSSLROa1S0x/x+97K1fe+7D9WpxXNMKEe6Rsr7yT4RbYGXje76l CWaId4RGZWRkz02fcfVGKberknp+tDdXL6Mk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tysKj0HftN3odBAXa2loJoHg9L9tIhBAdc3Qdq8zANvBGyS6En+lom3XwVtUKSVDpw 4HhNcRGrcdX8KUII4aA4SUhnG5rBNsPUWnhwHrml+CJ1Em0Aag3bRq2glw/t/oCU/M4L BMTNAJM4LWahJI6W9s7OOC9wA9wRuGajVDGTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:39:53 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: So long for now From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c6c956a400047b2b9f82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:39:55 +0000 (UTC) --00504502c6c956a400047b2b9f82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peace. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Warren Sirota wrote= : > Bye, Mikko. I will miss your contributions. > > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = wrote: > >> Ciao Mikko! >> >> See you over on FB. >> >> Stay in touch. >> >> On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: >> >> Hi Gang, >>> >>> After years of watching this community grow and change I'm thinking it >>> might be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspects of my life= . >>> There are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'll still keep a= n eye >>> on each other on FaceBook, where most of my activity resides now. If y= ou're >>> not a friend of mine yet, please hit me up! I'd love to see you over th= ere! >>> >>> All the best, >>> -- >>> Mikko Biffle >>> http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz >>> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" >>> >> >> > > > -- > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota > --00504502c6c956a400047b2b9f82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peace.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Warren Sirota <= span dir=3D"ltr"><wsirota@wsdes= igns.com> wrote:

Bye, Mikko. I will miss your con= tributions.=20

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn= <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

Ciao Mikko!

S= ee you over on FB.

Stay in touch.

On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:31 P= M, Miko Biffle wrote:

Hi Gang,

Afte= r years of watching this community grow and change I'm thinking it migh= t be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspects of my life. =A0The= re are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'll still keep an ey= e on each other on FaceBook, where most of my activity resides now. =A0If y= ou're not a friend of mine yet, please hit me up! I'd love to see y= ou over there!

All the best,
--
Mikko Biffle
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"

--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops, Live & Ot= w
http://= www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota

--00504502c6c956a400047b2b9f82-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 20 17:39:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 679533BE86; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B2E6131.7080006@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:38:57 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #663 for December 17, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:39:26 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/091217.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #663 December 17, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Indra. The Featured CD at Midnight was Tripura Sundari, CD 3 of the Special Edition Tantric Celebration series. Indra: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#dec PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Bruno Sanfilippo Piano Textures2 I Piano Textures 2 (ad21) ['ramp] wreckage debris (doombient) ['ramp] piees debris (doombient) ['ramp] debris debris (doombient) Cosmic Hoffmann Spacewards Outerspace Gems (Manikin) Hot Buttered Elves Cosmic Santa Time 2012: Planet X-mas (Tape Hiss) Hamilton Sterling City of Water * Migration (Helikon Sound) and Jimmy Haslip 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Indra Elixir Tripura Sundari (Eagle) Indra Link To the Hidden Chinnamasta (Eagle) Blue 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Indra. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Bhuvaneshvari, CD 4 of the Special Edition Tantric Celebration series. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen to WDIY at http://is.gd/37vNQ on-line. To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 20 18:52:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E26253BE86; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cSi/NQK0vUs1gqgFdSpmx/IZ9XRQHc3zYkVTbduscmM=; b=jjfAIlOzHNZFW+NE0G/nad9W41AmJGoeKBHYb7TOmY8WYpSSSlsl9d2E0/S7ZSKdWO edcuZL7qmrP3pazbzBQShI404y1UnSXnICag4WX6D70LK3PjNAZvXVjc2a0BXJgduCaC xU6Uj07ftnSBbKkXDRGFTrw4m2h+Y6roVLyNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cp1hV2FAfy63bwwcQO9VXBhJCwm5aDAwWz2jbasTay1v54sZSk4RqY2NO+liW3vkeB Y3bu1zPnCeh4wBCO6kdeqlTRSjMHY3nFqamCE1h839dE/U3FeKvVP60wM3B3SFFfo3Xf 1hNupbQfQpgiTVlw8Hyasb+wwlS00oGBhp0vs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:52:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: So long for now From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d5667ae6803d047b2d78a8 Resent-Message-ID: <5K6ABD.A.8IF.lJnLLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:52:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d5667ae6803d047b2d78a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... meet you there, mikko. 2009/12/20 Michael Billow > Peace. > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Warren Sirota wro= te: > >> Bye, Mikko. I will miss your contributions. >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> >>> Ciao Mikko! >>> >>> See you over on FB. >>> >>> Stay in touch. >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: >>> >>> Hi Gang, >>>> >>>> After years of watching this community grow and change I'm thinking it >>>> might be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspects of my lif= e. >>>> There are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'll still keep = an eye >>>> on each other on FaceBook, where most of my activity resides now. If = you're >>>> not a friend of mine yet, please hit me up! I'd love to see you over t= here! >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> -- >>>> Mikko Biffle >>>> http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz >>>> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota >> > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d5667ae6803d047b2d78a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... meet you there, mikko.

2009/12/20 Mic= hael Billow <mbil= low@gmail.com>
Peace.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Warren Sirota <= span dir=3D"ltr"><wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:

Bye, Mikko. I wil= l miss your contributions.=20

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn= <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

Ciao Mikko!
See you over on FB.

Stay in touch.

On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:3= 1 PM, Miko Biffle wrote:

Hi Gang,

A= fter years of watching this community grow and change I'm thinking it m= ight be time to pry my focus away and towards other aspects of my life. =A0= There are many here I respect and admire and I hope we'll still keep an= eye on each other on FaceBook, where most of my activity resides now. =A0I= f you're not a friend of mine yet, please hit me up! I'd love to se= e you over there!

All the best,
--
Mikko Biffle
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"

--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops, Live & Ot= w
http://= www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota

--
Raul Bonell= at Blogger: http://raulbonell.b= logspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d5667ae6803d047b2d78a8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 01:48:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F27083BE8B; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1ytBK8keq4a33P2wCZmFnwjcYbuzeslon/jEEi5+ALo=; b=NNcZtGrMtLl4IA0gOi/d8E2LPE8qClsCqVD8YSkx11v6bA0VIlb0QOUt+tPegPzSK5 7AukkLjuYMMvF2aGKrpf0c10hQ3MtaDK7BORDjxPx077/RUkiDHirE3PgkNcowl/Wnly LUoaAwmyD49rfkiK5kwJwMTBMZDJClIvK2bEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iJzjX4BHXEuCX1yEHaevWcduJxRs0sTpZTZMemPDjcgOHYSDGtPF/uLPBN6qk1qDhb QqUgaXk9deMwFEF9NXE5vtBfF4CoOdaYhh8s0X4o5Qcju+Gz8/gxrlDS5ahrnp3re4Xu n4Yuhp6bdKRuXfhVvhXvFJBulO9rHL7sftXtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:48:51 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912201748s167b4aabh7c1b442e1398074f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Steve Moyes LIVE right now From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747365295c5b5047b334aa5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) --00151747365295c5b5047b334aa5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reminder that our colleague Steve Moyes is doing a 24 hour celebratory live ustream broadcast currently in progress. His cast began earlier today and runs through sometime tomorrow, I'm sorry I don't know the exact times but it's pretty monumental undertaking in celebration of the Winter Solstice. You can support him at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain right now! Go Steve Go... Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --00151747365295c5b5047b334aa5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reminder that our colleague Steve Moyes is doing a 24 hour celebratory live= ustream broadcast currently in progress.=A0 His cast began earlier today a= nd runs through sometime tomorrow, I'm sorry I don't know the exact= times but it's pretty monumental undertaking in celebration of the Win= ter Solstice.=A0 You can support him at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/= Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain right now!

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Jim

--
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--00151747365295c5b5047b334aa5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 01:53:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 180033BE8B; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xK10beCkGlHHQmlp/1s+5DRdXGp0Tjfpr8UmjgYoaC4=; b=GrHc+fFSYY2kld/Gs9QGUUXx7ecsGyIZ8YwJXyzbB4ta5agKoVwf0/RtXZAVYkRZRx T0JwlSsIurH8C1XnganQnFayxV268B++mCClbpQEyNMc5M8GRVGRAaFAxV8H4ll3DEDq nyDI20NqN1ydR6j6mqh6xmH9xgtR/9sW0Mrtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OJxY2eJbeie9jPLDnUtiOBstHiyFw4pmPHcVm6Cqs0Bd1wX8+iF7oc97XsJhC9IKHC J4ePSJDenYjTw/5xS3rbMd92CeDi9fY8VsHI1ae36UkkuNQm2uD56sHhvUTvw/VVD+wZ YCUQuPCMr5Bpf3a3FATRGCF6y5k/o+DHY4unU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:53:00 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912201753u4bbe6efue8185a4b2ef9d3f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Moyes uStream update info From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174795666aac5a047b335954 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:53:01 +0000 (UTC) --0015174795666aac5a047b335954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was just told that he began 8 hrs ago @12noon EST and finishes 12noon EST tomorrow... -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174795666aac5a047b335954 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just told that he began 8 hrs ago @12noon EST and finishes 12noon EST= tomorrow...

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--0015174795666aac5a047b335954-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 03:10:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABB2B3BE8A; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FCB1010 vs Gordius Little Giant From: Kenn Lowy In-reply-to: <20091220185222.908093BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:10:01 -0500 Message-id: <9954699A-3870-4057-B299-353F5BF812FA@me.com> References: <20091220185222.908093BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:10:13 +0000 (UTC) I have an FCB1010 and it's great. The problem is that now that I have both an EDP and LP1, I've outgrown the 1010. I'm wondering if anyone has owned both and can tell me the ups and downs (if any) to the Gordius. Thanks, klowy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 03:22:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F08EC3BE84; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: FCB1010 vs Gordius Little Giant From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: <9954699A-3870-4057-B299-353F5BF812FA@me.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:22:20 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <791FA4CB-6E93-466D-8AF3-583A8861E96B@reyn.net> References: <20091220185222.908093BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> <9954699A-3870-4057-B299-353F5BF812FA@me.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1NMYqj-0004DI-BA X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.132, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_50 0.00, TVD_RCVD_IP 1.93) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:22:23 +0000 (UTC) No downs...=20 Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:10 AM, Kenn Lowy wrote: > I have an FCB1010 and it's great. 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Yours truly, 701 116 4266 direct line 701 016 2666 fax 704 573 6846 cell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 09:03:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D2AE3BE8B; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_97e79bc6-8bc9-4a8e-a64f-1e94dce40ec7_" X-Originating-IP: [86.133.140.237] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: information please? Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:03:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20091221035212.4262E2484A@ns3.tnt21.com> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com>,,<101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com>,,,<20091221035212.4262E2484A@ns3.tnt21.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2009 09:03:28.0441 (UTC) FILETIME=[7607FA90:01CA821C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:03:29 +0000 (UTC) --_97e79bc6-8bc9-4a8e-a64f-1e94dce40ec7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You lucky sod - let us know how you get on with it.=20 happy solstice to all too.. peace G > Date: Sun=2C 20 Dec 2009 22:52:05 -0500 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: phaslem@wightman.ca > Subject: information please? >=20 > Hi and happy holidays to everyone! >=20 > I recently picked up an Ibanez img2010 and mc1 controller. The seller=20 > included the ifc60 foot controller but didn't have the cable for it=20 > and it seems like a special little thing. Anyone know where I might=20 > find one? It's about the size of a midi cable but has 6 pins. I'm=20 > also on the lookout for a spare 24 pin cable >=20 > thanks=2C >=20 > Paul Haslem > www.dulcify.ca > Ontario=2C Canada >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_97e79bc6-8bc9-4a8e-a64f-1e94dce40ec7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You lucky sod - let us know how you get on with it.

happy solstice = to all too..

peace

G

>=3B Date: Sun=2C 20 Dec 2009 2= 2:52:05 -0500
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>=3B F= rom: phaslem@wightman.ca
>=3B Subject: information please?
>=3B <= br>>=3B Hi and happy holidays to everyone!
>=3B
>=3B I recentl= y picked up an Ibanez img2010 and mc1 controller. The seller
>=3B inc= luded the ifc60 foot controller but didn't have the cable for it
>=3B= and it seems like a special little thing. Anyone know where I might
&g= t=3B find one? It's about the size of a midi cable but has 6 pins. I'm
= >=3B also on the lookout for a spare 24 pin cable
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Have more than one= Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both. = --_97e79bc6-8bc9-4a8e-a64f-1e94dce40ec7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 09:58:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 857A53BE87; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hmV1IkiNJOIUTVjB6yiiUNxiogKHcHuFViSkQ8PJEXM=; b=pu9zsIn4CYfk7AFFF/lc3maSoo29lbx0gHHqGsMONC9X0qsXp4vSEJqfoUB/NBi3lW bncq+YhIZsOr9UulttgdAVr6HDXTP4HhH6IbRjxp/S2izx+O7pUlpAotbrej/Bs1SPRO ov4FiV+AjrGYgNuzoE6b+4l3R4ge0nJjF9tRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EEUriq4QjGdrE+UExyUNkHiwghHzaStv2k5Oxlmar+JAAL3i7s5aJfJen8kO+bGKSh borJDTdTCHV6eYuwjkYZC/IClAm2vMUkOvQmDdQ+0cyHDzNeNgl28ZSgxoXfkdI3w8QV hn0x5z3lLW35VxYGWbTCeapwYNKvMC3pro9cY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9954699A-3870-4057-B299-353F5BF812FA@me.com> References: <20091220185222.908093BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> <9954699A-3870-4057-B299-353F5BF812FA@me.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:58:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB1010 vs Gordius Little Giant From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9YoKyC.A.N9B.7a0LLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:58:19 +0000 (UTC) I use a Gordius to control an LP1 and several software loopers on different midi channels, works really good. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 10:00:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E82663BEA2; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VP+edwyw/w2UYrtWADYYl5bmueE0no+4yWpK6ElWN18=; b=eh+QRFOA9jc4fx5Zj9A1dVOKj5FSr31D0dPv7TQ3nq+ZVNkBm2dWlMAGvhGwgKc9f0 lPAR9Bu85eJ1g2D6wLyJ7/v00maQPQNzkNZ6IMnoXq7D1s4z1m1VjY0CFuuYPZruIrvj z3iDSpZDTqGDf0yVf2cKh+FM8FaK08eOXo9qk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O6luBW8jfcKEndv4xCzuc/PaHqg6/BrqfXrXcHhN90261itoLUWjF4OMUo4qmlcfd0 oZycFmwTNmu3zju3F3vThxgqjnXCIjGCnW4sMqqPyIysGWQbhbWOrDjM9/l/Ejeu1sQZ i6TXYfrjhID+SyxQ+/U9dQsfSCRPkqseJC1Gs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9954699A-3870-4057-B299-353F5BF812FA@me.com> References: <20091220185222.908093BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> <9954699A-3870-4057-B299-353F5BF812FA@me.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:00:10 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912210200v7246c81an8e2951e3db2037a9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FCB1010 vs Gordius Little Giant From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd60960a39e03047b3a27a4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:00:10 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd60960a39e03047b3a27a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The Gordius seems great. The only thing I can think of that is "better" with the Behringer is that you can pick up a new one anywhere. I'm on my third Behringer now and they tend to last almost exactly three years. I've never been close to a store offering a Gordious when on those Behringer crapping-out occasions, so that may be the main reason I don't have a Gordius ;-) I would guess a Gourdious lasts far longer than three years, but that's just my educated guess. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Kenn Lowy wrote: > I have an FCB1010 and it's great. The problem is that now that I have both > an EDP and LP1, I've outgrown the 1010. I'm wondering if anyone has owned > both and can tell me the ups and downs (if any) to the Gordius. > --000e0cd60960a39e03047b3a27a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Gordius seems great. The only thing I can think of that is "better= " with the Behringer is that you can pick up a new one anywhere. I'= ;m on my third Behringer now and they tend to last almost exactly three yea= rs. I've never been close to a store offering a Gordious when on those = Behringer crapping-out occasions, so that may be the main reason I don'= t have a Gordius ;-)=C2=A0 I would guess a Gourdious lasts far longer than = three years, but that's just my educated guess.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Kenn Lo= wy <kennlowy@me.com= > wrote:

I have an FCB1010 and it's great. The p= roblem is that now that I have both an EDP and LP1, =C2=A0I've outgrown= the 1010. I'm wondering if anyone has owned both and can tell me the u= ps and downs (if any) to the Gordius.

--000e0cd60960a39e03047b3a27a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 10:13:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67C8B3BE8C; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Vj8D08PM8mwvr0f4ne/27IHpt0byDGbWQ0l8AzVPk6I=; b=O/nvMOpSx0ML3mkFamzoyFci0IzQfE86Y05ElcP4VVsqEsg1ANtHVhis0d+BXXevi/ 5LcPyXpwVL2VfH0MXUlOxp6EyC459w6LAqCN/n3H+9jK8ZxPhJReqxjxA9HHknQK/Hbj t9yMlge0DGUyUmJutKsQ1yPrZvmmpLYa9Q9JM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=geeKbinNHTkQjQ1uLoz3hURAgYU8kUCyfLzQYIF66GYggsELzBYgajeNZ+Dhp1YHMM Obuw+5R/IlusA9/Ui1hgaAZNKlLq9F+yHJCxH844edoGsIxX20xZu2cj4z8WC37z/hgZ mIqBDcMnyW3dGh+60riHl+ZzZfJpvxgx1s9R0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0912210200v7246c81an8e2951e3db2037a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091220185222.908093BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> <9954699A-3870-4057-B299-353F5BF812FA@me.com> <66f9cc1e0912210200v7246c81an8e2951e3db2037a9@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:13:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0cdbd57b766d29e3 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0912210213t6a5423b1vf5a6f2aec46b1e1b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FCB1010 vs Gordius Little Giant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747673217cc8d047b3a589c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:13:44 +0000 (UTC) --00151747673217cc8d047b3a589c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The SIZE seems to be the other general gripe of the fcb1010... 2 footpedals too long ... if you dont use them, like me... Personally ive never had one "crapping out", yes still on my first Per.. but im sure yours gets more use than mine... Basically if the functionallity is ther for you, I would still go for the FCB.. but that because Im a cheapskate (broke) and 3 fcbs is still better than a little gordius.. i think.. However the lack of multiple midi channels per function is a idiotic waste of a huge pedal, and if it doesn have the functionality you need to =B4botk EDP and LP1 then, i guess its snot an option anyway.. Mark On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > The Gordius seems great. The only thing I can think of that is "better" > with the Behringer is that you can pick up a new one anywhere. I'm on my > third Behringer now and they tend to last almost exactly three years. I'v= e > never been close to a store offering a Gordious when on those Behringer > crapping-out occasions, so that may be the main reason I don't have a > Gordius ;-) I would guess a Gourdious lasts far longer than three years, > but that's just my educated guess. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Kenn Lowy wrote: > >> I have an FCB1010 and it's great. The problem is that now that I have bo= th >> an EDP and LP1, I've outgrown the 1010. I'm wondering if anyone has own= ed >> both and can tell me the ups and downs (if any) to the Gordius. >> > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --00151747673217cc8d047b3a589c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The SIZE seems to be the other general gripe of the fcb1010... 2 footpedals= too long ... if you dont use them, like me...

=A0Personally ive nev= er had one "crapping out", yes still on my first Per.. but im sur= e yours gets more use than mine...

Basically if the functionallity is ther for you, I would still go for t= he FCB.. but that because Im a cheapskate (broke) and 3 fcbs is still bette= r than a little gordius.. i think..

However the lack of multiple mid= i channels per function is a idiotic waste of a huge pedal, and if it doesn= have the functionality you need to =B4botk EDP and LP1 then, i guess its s= not an option anyway..

Mark

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at= 11:00 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gordius seems great. The only thing I can think of that is "better= " with the Behringer is that you can pick up a new one anywhere. I'= ;m on my third Behringer now and they tend to last almost exactly three yea= rs. I've never been close to a store offering a Gordious when on those = Behringer crapping-out occasions, so that may be the main reason I don'= t have a Gordius ;-)=A0 I would guess a Gourdious lasts far longer than thr= ee years, but that's just my educated guess.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Kenn Lo= wy <kennlowy@me.com> wrote:

I have an FCB1010 and it's great. The problem is that now that I h= ave both an EDP and LP1, =A0I've outgrown the 1010. I'm wondering i= f anyone has owned both and can tell me the ups and downs (if any) to the G= ordius.

--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
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--00151747673217cc8d047b3a589c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 13:31:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55B8F3BE8E; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NkEF2gYsA9K+BvkQehKWiy0AZGj4TkF9mU4flINUU88=; b=gnJIv7omgAgfjG0ZZL3U18SCkiZreJEz7BmepjcMTdPf1JycQ1ML2NFNOAXXtnORgz NnMvbrEZs13MMxDGoYs5I86+acGusmJQSWytp6g+U3rJBfRHThrTRZ1yNwtz+3f43caW IeLTzHPBg3WWh7o4gVuZgZXVipmhLv2CRcLJA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E/BfJ2y070JO+Fu0K0e6S+TZGyrEdVCZaFe2aF7E/zAsgeZA6MPMemK1blBWLIdyrU mG/a7e12hcwWFpQIs4pdKDVVV08f9oH+/sMbauuiStVXVLgsC2F9354tvqxzgYnbKtul zFTEg8eWpPgK40a72NZu0jWrNnqBy9V88/dwE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B2F1585.1080908@audiomulch.com> References: <4B0347E3.4020605@nonwrestler.com> <61ddf5040912062319s62ae6eefw76c99e81d3ed7231@mail.gmail.com> <61ddf5040912080006v4235af4q9241d6a3381977e0@mail.gmail.com> <4B2C1625.5010809@nonwrestler.com> <4B2F1585.1080908@audiomulch.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:31:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: [mulch] Interview with Erdem - and do you have any of your own questions? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab70ccb5e5d047b3d1aeb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:31:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab70ccb5e5d047b3d1aeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Katharine Neil Date: 2009/12/21 Subject: [mulch] Interview with Erdem - and do you have any of your own questions? To: mulch-discuss@yahoogroups.com Hey everyone, We've just published an interview we did with Erdem Helvacioglu about the way he makes music: http://www.audiomulch.com/articles/interview-with-erdem-helvacioglu The questions I asked were pretty general and some of you might have some more specific questions, particularly about how Erdem uses AudioMulch. Post those questions here: http://www.audiomulch.com/content/ask-erdem-questions-here Once the forum thread is closed we'll add the answers to the end of the interview page. Cheers, Katharine ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mulch-discuss/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mulch-discuss/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mulch-discuss-digest@yahoogroups.com mulch-discuss-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: mulch-discuss-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6dab70ccb5e5d047b3d1aeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Hey everyone,

We've just published an interview we did with Erdem Helvacioglu about the way he makes music:

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--0016e6dab70ccb5e5d047b3d1aeb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 15:38:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DCC23BE84; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B2F903C.10502@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:11:56 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Thought Experiment Radio Playlist for December 19, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:38:04 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/091219.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Experiment Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. Bill also hosts Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #163 December 19, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Aperion] Imagic Sequences No. 8 VA [Mario Remember the Old Sequences No. 8 Schonwalder] Sequence VA [Tranquillity] The Spectra Within Sequences No. 8 Indra Ego Trap Chinnamasta (Eagle) Arcane Time Out of Mind Tomorrow's Wasteland (Lawler) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Michael DeMaria Transformation Ocean (Ontos) Ciro Hurtado Para Amanda Guitarista (Inti) Ciro Hurtado Para Que No Me Guitarista (Inti) Olvides Don Slepian track 5 Beginnings One (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Survival] Impressions Purgatoria (Musea) Neal Morse We All Need Some So Many Roads (Radiant) Light Pepa Paivinen Reflexology North Pipe (Presence) IZZ Stumbling The Darkened Room (Doone) Destiny? 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To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 21 19:49:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1E7A3BE8B; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+Zvk0OF36dfC0tpzkn830Ltrkp99NuJy/KwHbOCDz+M=; b=pS/++MQzHyNOYFEUuv09JlwQU3qnaeJEitMekKHB72qWfXBri9GPC6sAazWMFBXOAv Zis7q2FT7M2sMGIvvpoFFheoiNOGh1oe2KKrbAb0rnU+umZ547vWYFGscBPGcJBgGWrg pphjdMeSjf6N6/LTnTfotnByCu4nqb1IdcR10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xO+FbvhTl1B1cvij21MW1SzE9T7S7Gc8N57yH5tiKx8S3A8o/n6EV3y3lEM6NXOhSY sW+5gAMMx4Nt2AhW7hspDM5VSLyMYCJ812FFed0lbJRgi3Ir21grSKH+A82tKmDRgGae 78pgjSqD43MQoC8JZV43nsNTKMxXXy1GhG6uw= Message-ID: <4B2FD152.9060702@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:49:38 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ? re: digitech echo plus (bit rate)? References: <776533.3585.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <776533.3585.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:49:41 +0000 (UTC) My suggestion: listen to how the thing works for you. If it sounds fine (by your standards), don't care about what the tech specs say. If it sounds ass (by your standards), don't care about the specs, either. As others stated before, 8bit (in combination with 80ies converters especially) tend to give you some "electric grittyness" which you may or may not like. One example: the first version of the Korg Kaoss Pad has much inferior audio quality in comparison to the later models - that's why I still keep a KP1, because it's just got "that sound". About the digitech: if it's really the PDS8000 AND if that is similar in sound to the digitech RDS delay I once had I have to say that I really liked the way it coulors the sound. Interestingly, not at all hard and gritty, rather soft - at first I suspected it to work with bucket brigades. > the echo plus demo funny man said-that the device uses 8-bit vs. the > nowadays most digital pedals use 24-bit. could someone explain this to > me. i mean sound-wise i thought the echo plus sounded great. i know > there's been talk of this before here, (i probably tuned out), i'm > just going on what i heard heard from the vid (i'm sure not pristine > quality) but it all sounded good to me.... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 00:08:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C42223BE84; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=yaEw6dCEnC3tdB9515Hz51gDiavrhJfqLlMZ70xZbTE=; b=LXKMyURvc5zpZnp14gc9wVdFwRcoxv09bcS+DzN/inztjojYcKJUNVg0icL+4r2s0L sieQObOGl3Eo/8h3TiXDlLI5LWw7rvErDV7T3beZdGVp4bPttRtVZtQUjz2aluLoJkPq K7Dvf+3cGTFukE7aKlodiYjNhZLaEObZsKMz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=JgNa3NjWBmJZsrVBmffNCW8oaMpdCvlnd1FFRQdqs7gYuQ4c7F9U7MV1egKd3IONL6 XpZzw83jbFWpDcI1fLp7smH1U/5x+8SPQBUUcHrqlpB9TU5S2PF8bB+8yG1onHT50IfK vlLuQg8KjcupicE1+IyH+2WRtWoAvkiLc4X/U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:08:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0b1b4726d62c0733 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0912211608u26ec1bf4t4109c5335cf41130@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Merzbow in Oslo To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0425e0055e7047b4603df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:08:57 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0425e0055e7047b4603df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 When Lo fi just isnt Low ENOUGH!! I find one cure is to go to see Merzbow live at your local musical emporium, and film him with a mobile phone... Enjoy... with earplugs! http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=608 -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce0425e0055e7047b4603df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When Lo fi just isnt Low ENOUGH!!

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--000e0ce0425e0055e7047b4603df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 00:28:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA9573BE87; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=H3nSmlUXKz2LC+VnA1YbDyyXMqt56/B/u+DKRDXe+xLUO46w24G3+qexIRalKLTX; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <21961591.1261441715887.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:28:35 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Merzbow in Oslo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48dca8a9cdd1604b71e3b2cbdef355e256666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.26 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:28:36 +0000 (UTC) thats what i'm talkin' about. great-thanks

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Subject: OT: Merzbow in Oslo

When Lo fi just isnt Low ENOUGH!!

I find one cure is to go to see Merzbow live at your local musical emporium, and film him with a mobile phone...
Enjoy... with earplugs!

http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=608

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 05:52:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FB613BE87; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=3v++6VA55KND9mie3Z4a2tUuRVk5zhcqkxK930Rpxtk=; b=PAKR5gIbi+0DFHjyYluA6LuqqIszGQ9Iyhwy/NYf5PJ5gvRA9JUcgz2qBsUlxMJIJZ pmkQF+vnrkka/J5bDg/7yBPzTb/5aWR96ofNBFEv3vzs7mqh/UzlX6rk38xFOqcrOk5q M9kYdsgN3bjjLGVr3642kAylU639GwW1fwJhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=P+TrWGPuABr3IKKlkDUrOKNyL6TxJM3LGCsMYEF3iktlJH17mkcUaVrmRrJZBviCsc 2+tMatltWrLji7Ygpagsfw0AERKXP8ksaWNqSsSvg1Z45JENlNolIsMgt3qaXEG7jGvJ NDkiIHEJ81hr5dDDZf6/Q4pv13bLq4FNU7qcE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:52:32 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912212152k1f543319kaddcb1413056874b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Looping fiddler From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517448a36e8e514047b4acf30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:52:34 +0000 (UTC) --001517448a36e8e514047b4acf30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In a search for a traditional tune King of the Fairies I've been learning stumbled on to this guy who is doing some cool stuff spinning about this tune and looping on a DL-4. Passing along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjFKNPnboF0&feature=related -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001517448a36e8e514047b4acf30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a search for a traditional tune King of the Fairies I've been learni= ng stumbled on to this guy who is doing some cool stuff spinning about this= tune and looping on a DL-4.=A0 Passing along.

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--001517448a36e8e514047b4acf30-- From briancasah1@yahoo.co.jp Tue Dec 22 08:04:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5390 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:04:30 UTC Received: from mail.acecomp.ca (mail.acecomp.ca [96.31.89.81]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0315D3BE87; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([82.128.21.247]) by acecomp.ca with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:34:01 -0500 Reply-To: From: "brian casey" Subject: CLAIM YOUR FAMILY ENTITLEMENT Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:33:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20091222080430.0315D3BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dear sir/ma this is to inform you officially that your late relatives fund of $7m has been approved by the united and financial council.hence you requested to send the following informations bellow,1, your full names 2,contact address and phone numbers, to the officer information bellow who will process and transfer your fund. do you have a visa credit card? or home equity. contact person; Mrs Angela Bochankovic email; credittransferunit@yahoo.co.jp sincerely yours mr brian casey. operation manager inheritance office geneva-switzerland. sincerely yours mr brian casey. operation manager inheritance office geneva-switzerland. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 09:13:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 908D53BE90; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZbD+oEzXp8/HesyaZS79S4nj4f0toe3wGukQx047c1A=; b=JmZIa4osQyx5vlN80dJNvOFeGokGN6XLH7sLUKruZ+rt9kElEpkUZ+k6ipeSR9iGbc rIGZxNGulNU1naBUILMb+arXFEzb86UbI7XqbgydsIZPF1tz2L7HcxbCp/Cd0qCywbCj KDL79H8U2FMg5NmouI1krhnClTcE2xRPfgUmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ajcIL5b2RpNia2W5vEHRfZE3/EwLhBdVCmYmpl/wEz0yGLY9nbCry50FQfv7JjEu1n zzkb/PUGaAlr8MymsmpwFcocOogXdj3JBREUGFMalJs5l9OdW6sXiy+n96rZX9sE/dZg oBiwxhs0njxgilKR2C9ljFlK9Mmd/wUrrdOTs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60912212152k1f543319kaddcb1413056874b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60912212152k1f543319kaddcb1413056874b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:13:18 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912220113g20eba977u47f6358b244cd5ab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping fiddler From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd608d4e5e797047b4d9dc3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:13:19 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd608d4e5e797047b4d9dc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > In a search for a traditional tune King of the Fairies I've been learning > stumbled on to this guy who is doing some cool stuff spinning about this > tune and looping on a DL-4. Passing along. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjFKNPnboF0&feature=related > Thanks for the hint. Great violin playing, tasteful use of effects and a creative touch in finding out a lot of different good parts to play on top of the two chord vamp he recorded first. I think his main trick was to not make that background loop too detailed, in order to keep it working well with all the other stuff he came up with. Inspiring video! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd608d4e5e797047b4d9dc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

In a search for a traditional tune King of = the Fairies I've been learning stumbled on to this guy who is doing som= e cool stuff spinning about this tune and looping on a DL-4.=C2=A0 Passing = along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgjFKNPnboF0&= feature=3Drelated

Thanks for the hint. = Great violin playing, tasteful use of effects and a creative touch in findi= ng out a lot of different good parts to play on top of the two chord vamp h= e recorded first. I think his main trick was to not make that background lo= op too detailed, in order to keep it working well with all the other stuff = he came up with. Inspiring video!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 11:14:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17F603BE86; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:14:32 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Looping fiddler In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0912220113g20eba977u47f6358b244cd5ab@mail.gmail.co m> References: <9e0440a60912212152k1f543319kaddcb1413056874b@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912220113g20eba977u47f6358b244cd5ab@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_30017906==.ALT" Message-Id: <20091222111439.0188324876@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:14:39 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_30017906==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim! The King of the Fairies has always been one of my=20 favorite tunes as well on the hammered dulcimer.=20 I love hearing the creative ways that folks are=20 bringing the traditional tunes into the 21st century. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada At 04:13 AM 12/22/2009, you wrote: >On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Jim Goodin=20 ><jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote: >In a search for a traditional tune King of the=20 >Fairies I've been learning stumbled on to this=20 >guy who is doing some cool stuff spinning about=20 >this tune and looping on a DL-4.=C2 Passing along. > >http://www.= youtube.com/watch?v=3DgjFKNPnboF0&feature=3Drelated --=====================_30017906==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim!
The King of the Fairies has always been one of my favorite tunes as well on the hammered dulcimer. I love hearing the creative ways that folks are bringing the traditional tunes into the 21st century.

Paul Haslem
www.dulcify.ca
Ontario, Canada

At 04:13 AM 12/22/2009, you wrote:

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:52 = AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com > wrote:

In a search for a traditional tune King of the Fairies I've been learning stumbled on to this guy who is doing some cool stuff spinning about this tune and looping on a DL-4.=C2 Passing along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgjFKNPnboF0&feature=3Drelated

--=====================_30017906==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 12:48:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFA213BE7C; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ItsD4atvOQ1iOeYWeHmBpYMZvdPaBuZPvvywAOvlRfM=; b=AtvsRL5VyjT4Zv2ixm6UiEmuuhFfub8qUVssFrW6ufF1Res12zTbTYQLAUuyNu41Zc lZKbK1NxdtvRoV6hzuzpABLVOIvrX9ZzrDukhpG/aBe93cfMwSZdQnfqXFV5dl7oMuVe ebsJGNQaJkiEGe6WnY7kWVPSLyz/9WgqEJ7ZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x3m6KJ08e3UUwre1CGuaEaGvl+hL39cI7rf61284kPWQR18htn58ojurTlADnt87l8 giOAuKQJIjQMQNxLpP6AUV+Q/L0ilgEIoP6FfOvjOTVURN0Mi1PSXtVAN0COVchr7igw mH/+yTX2lwaXLK4KLT8lITJpN/6oJ6SU+ddhM= Message-ID: <4B30C029.80301@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:48:41 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping and the public and categorization References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com> <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> <3B33DD1C-A65F-4537-92F5-29883C46C5E5@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912160444v4c850015m665a27b838426d0e@mail.gmail.com> <4B28F836.5030002@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B28F836.5030002@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Andy added the following to that huge brand name discussion: > What the public doesn't know is that looping technology can be used > to create music such as has not been heard before, that it's > possible to "take it to the next level", to quote an appreciative > audience member. Why would the public want to know? Why would they care? This goes in line with my theory about audiences perceiving music (unless they are either dedicated or nerdy musicians or musicologists on a mission): The audience does not care how exactly it's made. They only care how it sounds and in the case of live performance/videos how it looks. (this theory needn't be true, it's merely based on a relatively small sample, but here's some related thesis: http://fwd4.me/0fD) > Since the introduction of the Roland machines, which are hardly > designed as a spring board for the imagination, the world > ...with the exception of the DD20 ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 13:00:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCA743BE85; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kbn1UnXRDTf7oabRVvxin/b8MmHMWmGO33TECVEI5zo=; b=tZbK7KMp8DtwYlggXHbsJMcYwlR4R21WMlF8KU3WVcozjFSbGZBoCRJYUhzsPiX1zC ZLYh860tiB2Bue+qYLe9nwzOhAZGjDceqcsew7AyHqjO/9mlAz7m8ixMay1fUG/EWVDw i1babcPTejGeA1vyIg0QysAlhWmjtuzEI6Q/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=X+jfJOqu+EQ9gcafbno2/ffpHoI/y6JJtGqbwHfuS6v1c7yxjuv11k3tiEewEjl5Cv jCsYmJ7ZKbPWNYjgt6upbMEHJCGEmP1zcs8Ym/uvSBhGMcQRGK0nLJi3Ye9WoOKAhVnF HpdBWVxuJ+ftpNdf5yqLGPlGQo8aPYWeMfzjI= Message-ID: <4B30C2FA.70806@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:00:42 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1ViCu.A.4X.6LMMLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:00:42 +0000 (UTC) > to have a much lower success rate. So it just seems to me that while > it is possible to have success selling the public on a festival by > using an unfamiliar term that must then be explained, one would think > that greater success could be had by branding a term already known. On > the other hand, simply by virtue of the fact that live looping as a > genre is new, may well have gotten you more publicity than you might > have gotten otherwise. It was interesting to see in Rick's statement that while he got far more publicity than with regular products, attendance was the same - which from a marketing guy's viewpoint is a very bad thing. Why does this happen? It's obvious that a festival doing "something new" is more interesting to journalists/bloggers than your run-of-the-mill low profile newcomer rock festival. You get the chance to write about that new technology and drop names like Riley, Eno and Fripp, instead of just going "it's a bunch of bands you've never heard of before who try to play rock music". Here, you're not in the consultative sales situation you're describing. Your customer (for the publicity stuff) is a journalist, and he's interested if you give him something new which sounds interesting and thus gives him kind of a USP (unique selling proposition). Getting people to attend the festival is another thing: here, you're really trying to sell condoms to the pope. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 13:21:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D0A03BE8A; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jji4a9UdUyNdo78m4BIlX2lI1vM2aCYpIAtMav5euWw=; b=UAj+PyQOiESuDEkFEMepEp3qzmis3e9oypC5aOIPWWSQwDg9i4fbpB1xChIuM0x+is mrLUHhXYjIFyRa8NvJH3/9XGkEq7NCJTwejZAkdI8e+nJIIDlJu/oLGMv0Qv1Z0ID3rO vNq7xyIMu4PtlnscYRW64AYD0JJBBpvXQczHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FQDSFcfjJfLsErY3FropqdaxoQ8/UhDgqqMTavRuyroxxFklJmkN1rD4m0RvaFvNkM KYwSd08/rsrrC3b+IkMRm4SmjBGtaanEbrRHKrxFzqx2lc5+0ZL3TSeuRuUWz7jMEeZ3 CboLQUnbLxAmx+lUPsGAuRWjJsZWE20LMjEkQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B30C2FA.70806@googlemail.com> References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> <4B30C2FA.70806@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:21:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912220521n6beab0cfy4bbd04d4fdac7621@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6cb9ca2b4fd047b51164e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:21:49 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6cb9ca2b4fd047b51164e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > It was interesting to see in Rick's statement that while he got far more > publicity than with regular products, attendance was the same - which from a > marketing guy's viewpoint is a very bad thing. > Why does this happen? > Because a certain number of people go out on events. The fact that more people get to hear about the event through the increased media coverage doesn't change the population's general habits of going out on events or staying home (for other private events, maybe?) To me, with a background in sociological research and marketing theory, Rick's rapport says that his event, in its recent form and presentation, is already optimizing the public attendance quota. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd6cb9ca2b4fd047b51164e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com><= /span> wrote:

It was interesting to see in Rick's sta= tement that while he got far more publicity than with regular products, att= endance was the same - which from a marketing guy's viewpoint is a very= bad thing.
Why does this happen?

Because a certain nu= mber of people go out on events. The fact that more people get to hear abou= t the event through the increased media coverage doesn't change the pop= ulation's general habits of going out on events or staying home (for ot= her private events, maybe?)

To me, with a background in sociological research and marketing theory,= Rick's rapport says that his event, in its recent form and presentatio= n, is already optimizing the public attendance quota.

Greetings fro= m Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
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    PayPal Inc. Account Departement. All Rights Reserved. � From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 16:17:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 196C03BE87; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HTSEmPzhR3+3CWKd65d7U0EUI1WJ0cv/6vuXOEUHc3o=; b=o6fpEoBqaLHyvqOHwnxVVdeMWsVPFrI3K8j0cx50JZ8RXelhsn0KR7frIMAfbRKSv6 Ev/Y8KKSW6BhD9FPSlcStylLTMGTiib69R5VKeY+9PHz3Opcyz+1kd4rplAZcZ4A53cb syauMzM74UAj91dWPhNOwyivAmxQLUpp5TUsI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=U2VG602tCxddju3ePNYU66EfK2dUj3FZwSKTfW1BCDWbQy6ir2009r6HyA+tCuYa2q kad7ZgUg+V/BxM8ZwbGjM/ysAmcRuBIWoyjL61+dV+wajCylVmDp6Qlfrb2fG3QmwvqS l2pOqitoW0LM93v/uI+5BZUjrn2fWSLMLAKSI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0912220521n6beab0cfy4bbd04d4fdac7621@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> <4B30C2FA.70806@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0912220521n6beab0cfy4bbd04d4fdac7621@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:17:11 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912220817u66b4e18dsa7b8be1e2145a983@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00235407f006d5625c047b53890d Resent-Message-ID: <7fEhsB.A.teG.IEPMLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:17:13 +0000 (UTC) --00235407f006d5625c047b53890d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is re my original sampler video but somewhat in line with the thread... unfortunately as YouTube can be, a neg comment was left (as my Dad taught me though any press good press). I really tried to make a point that this was not a 'best of' at all but the bulk of those that performed on that given day. I did this both in the text which clearly does not get read and on the video title sequence. I did not want the audience at large to take it as this cat did but as said YT audience is a cast of everything. --00235407f006d5625c047b53890d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is re my original sampler video but somewhat in line with the thread..= . unfortunately as YouTube can be, a neg comment was left (as my Dad taught= me though any press good press).=A0 I really tried to make a point that th= is was not a 'best of' at all but the bulk of those that performed = on that given day.=A0 I did this both in the text which clearly does not ge= t read and on the video title sequence.=A0 I did not want the audience at l= arge to take it as this cat did but as said YT audience is a cast of everyt= hing.

--00235407f006d5625c047b53890d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 19:03:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 932B83BE85; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UBMonkfWkPuw17l+7cVTnRrX/D+rvgfkjzwCVppEmWQ=; b=cLVd0Gku3CYUc6bJUDRkf8Etu2E2vQ1SmgNhN8Jq99MaSchvueZaqy3N2a4gQoDd3I +Z5id32xypdmwpakctXBs1iU9dfFGhL0ChEh+/RByViP7nx49UtgDum+I6ZTf/XcIvjq ismu5Xhq58UZGLzjRdJ4QtLA7GWalolZDiUDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N/tHyquCjYvNzx4mbON8V0jfjcxqRFRvwyjuJFyY80CTyFGDQiVmn8rBbR9lZ5+UwU /cg3iC5poKJ+FXeoN3y8dqZ/+ehKRwR1VHJ6hxWXMUPLDG4kZihJI5YSx+w/sY3rLPLr iKTNcbMU9mKpv2ZY0LL7cEqSmXNya/4gnlp9I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60912220817u66b4e18dsa7b8be1e2145a983@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> <4B30C2FA.70806@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0912220521n6beab0cfy4bbd04d4fdac7621@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60912220817u66b4e18dsa7b8be1e2145a983@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-Pug6B.A.PYD.AgRMLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:03:28 +0000 (UTC) This is something that's discussed in depth in my local experimental music community. As much as they may like the actual music, it's very hard to get people to go to a concert or listen to a cd if the music is described as "cutting edge", "adventurous", or even "new". A more successful tactic may be to draw similarities to music they already like. I can think of 2 possible reasons for this. Not sure which is more true. 1) I think human brains have an aversion to "too much information" or "unknown quantities". If I were to ask an average person, "Would you rather go to McDonalds, or to someplace where the rules of physics don't apply," most folks would choose McDonald's. 2) As someone who listens to a lot of "out there" music, I find that the more people claim their music is "bizarre" or "like something you've never heard before", the more sophomoric and predictable the music seems to be. I find the best weird music is from people who've been doing it long enough that they don't find it weird. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 19:41:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55CE23BE89; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3OpzRwi29K2k9xZn7Iqr1PUjTqWADjr0w4FVcxM6ei4=; b=CM+aozCDyQOvBt1zyeaa0lppT1e4gqd/1yAmB1n19FVpYA/nLk2g9LmE12HekrDJVZ SGKhX/S3pGq8zfBCeobOG/W8X1CzKMAzNg7TqMv0nYXDklrCqoZbqmywOJ+t6BbgpVmx Nc5vY1VR51OXw4HH5iwKpjHxWdQTLAgPQ8OBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fYA8AzjemZY66pPHra7rD8HzSx4MI9XlMc8tIQQJbqJDNzCKZ7TG8z2FOTGMfk33ks IqqeSgPbi+Oo1oRME3m+CbhC+ztVBHaMx8Bj216fWc2I9O2AnZ0WRr27b2LIq3/278jl bgF1Y6YOcvw5QOcJtAptnGbr8lkBJB6CZE32A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> <4B30C2FA.70806@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0912220521n6beab0cfy4bbd04d4fdac7621@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60912220817u66b4e18dsa7b8be1e2145a983@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:41:39 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912221141k69448d68t6c8664c168849eb0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <8uRm9C.A.TrE.1DSMLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:41:41 +0000 (UTC) On 12/22/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > This is something that's discussed in depth in my local experimental > music community. > > As much as they may like the actual music, it's very hard to get > people to go to a concert or listen to a cd if the music is described > as "cutting edge", "adventurous", or even "new". 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I find the best weird music is from people who've > been doing it long enough that they don't find it weird. > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > -- Sent from my mobile device ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From evelyn@jones.com Tue Dec 22 19:55:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9351 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:55:48 UTC Received: from freebsd.jsjhs.tpc.edu.tw (freebsd.jsjhs.tpc.edu.tw [163.20.33.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0596E3BE7E for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freebsd.jsjhs.tpc.edu.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebsd.jsjhs.tpc.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF271287135; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:46:14 +0800 (CST) Received: from freebsd.jsjhs.tpc.edu.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebsd.jsjhs.tpc.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF181286E38; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:46:11 +0800 (CST) From: "Mrs. Evelyn Jones" Reply-To: sflendergroup@live.nl Subject: Hope you act sincerely Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:46:11 +0900 Message-Id: <20091222154614.M86131@jones.com> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 41.215.160.133 (jstudent) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-NetStation-Status: PASS X-NetStation-SPAM: 0.00/4.00-5.00 Hello, My name is Evelyn Jones I got your email from a message forwarded to me and decided to contact you.I am a dying woman who had decided to donate what I have to you.I am 55 years old and was diagnosed for leukemia about 2 years ago,immediately after the death of my husband,who had left me everything he worked for.I have been touched by God to donate from what I have inherited from my late husband to you for the good work of God, rather than allowing my relatives to use my husband's hard earned funds ungodly.I have asked God to forgive me all my sins and i believe he has because He is a merciful God. 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Mrs. Evelyn Jones From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 20:13:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B12243BE87; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> <4B30C2FA.70806@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0912220521n6beab0cfy4bbd04d4fdac7621@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60912220817u66b4e18dsa7b8be1e2145a983@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: <61740EF4-63F5-4602-AD10-3900FAB4ED17@mac.com> From: Daniel Berkman Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:13:07 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:13:10 +0000 (UTC) I like that! -Daniel On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > This is something that's discussed in depth in my local experimental > music community. > > As much as they may like the actual music, it's very hard to get > people to go to a concert or listen to a cd if the music is described > as "cutting edge", "adventurous", or even "new". A more successful > tactic may be to draw similarities to music they already like. > > I can think of 2 possible reasons for this. Not sure which is more > true. > > 1) I think human brains have an aversion to "too much information" or > "unknown quantities". If I were to ask an average person, "Would you > rather go to McDonalds, or to someplace where the rules of physics > don't apply," most folks would choose McDonald's. > > 2) As someone who listens to a lot of "out there" music, I find that > the more people claim their music is "bizarre" or "like something > you've never heard before", the more sophomoric and predictable the > music seems to be. I find the best weird music is from people who've > been doing it long enough that they don't find it weird. > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 22:06:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E75A03BE85; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 312799668/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.207.234/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.207.234 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmUBANPRMEtPTs/q/2dsb2JhbAAIg2bDLY9/gS+CLlYEgWWHQw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,438,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="312799668" Message-ID: <4B3142CC.90300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:06:04 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping and the public and categorization References: <9e0440a60912090712o5cf8d8c9paa58e21626d06045@mail.gmail.com> <4B238EF1.9000608@tiscali.co.uk> <59EEA053-332D-4B75-8218-14B3F9755324@gmail.com> <4B2398EE.9030201@tiscali.co.uk> <97016ABE-3C69-4B5A-86E5-4DA60693154E@gmail.com> <8423FB7F-D8A1-4AF9-A5D3-3D3B09FB0284@zoekeating.com> <6224B03A-A737-4AEB-8901-8B6DA0CCC203@gmail.com> <2E497946-AB25-4CC2-869A-E36B568DE609@zoekeating.com> <3B33DD1C-A65F-4537-92F5-29883C46C5E5@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0912160444v4c850015m665a27b838426d0e@mail.gmail.com> <4B28F836.5030002@tiscali.co.uk> <4B30C029.80301@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B30C029.80301@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Andy added the following to that huge brand name discussion: >> What the public doesn't know is that looping technology can be used >> to create music such as has not been heard before, that it's >> possible to "take it to the next level", to quote an appreciative >> audience member. > Why would the public want to know? Why would they care? ...but I just quoted a member of the public who cared and wanted to know...like...er...just there before your comment :-) > This goes in line with my theory about audiences perceiving music > (unless they are either dedicated or nerdy musicians or musicologists on > a mission): The audience does not care how exactly it's made. They only > care how it sounds and in the case of live performance/videos how it looks. > (this theory needn't be true, it's merely based on a relatively small > sample, but here's some related thesis: http://fwd4.me/0fD) (note, link goes to blog referring to *improvised* music) maybe times are changing, but traditionally the music buying public hasn't had any difficulty in distinguishing between "live album", and "studio album"...or any reluctance to to be critical of live acts who use canned backing. If the public isn't interested in hearing something new, then it doesn't hurt to tell them anything at all about your new music. If they're interested in something new, I suspect they feel comfortable that it has some kind of explanation/description. > >> Since the introduction of the Roland machines, which are hardly >> designed as a spring board for the imagination, the world >> > ...with the exception of the DD20 ;) Aren't most of the thrills obtained by using it in a way the designers never intended? andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 22 22:18:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9760C3BE85; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e/HIzTMsd35zTsLim6j/jjRC3NWMbkH4okg2w2U1spw=; b=JJJDg/4Vtf9C7GzwA6gOnYbOeZ1CJTLm39EAfHP9XCXvJtqz9mGpiBbtNPeiQbYbJA 5y7O8hnP82QEjlrIJYdqeu3jdpTDyD2JyOK6na1shjoHpfTSG5BhVm4ZSDDxGBOZSCM2 jdSSVWoMpQ/Fb6ySKefedm8i14rPXENCeTSts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=yFPfkXYeRCPqG1HB12Erz17O7v3uRjFxmf+hIcZxPjnSH+217AfSwFrFFH2FEDglS5 vjX1H9eit0mpBCLo104YmrM846j0QfLxh70vBPqAIwe7e2GrphzxE1Z7RW+aDcoAVaT7 KZv8iDk1SRwMv8Xu0FjQJlorQN3wHou3PYZ9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60912221418sd9692d6u5143f71d17322d84@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B27365C.6020400@cruzio.com> <1318f21d0912151534r47672350rb0ca2fe2ba65bbfa@mail.gmail.com> <4B30C2FA.70806@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0912220521n6beab0cfy4bbd04d4fdac7621@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60912220817u66b4e18dsa7b8be1e2145a983@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60912221141k69448d68t6c8664c168849eb0@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60912221418sd9692d6u5143f71d17322d84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:18:49 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912221418q6943f961j6400a4a09ef9249d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2 From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517440f9a197d2b047b589754 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:18:51 +0000 (UTC) --001517440f9a197d2b047b589754 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Matt no that must have been a bogus send the 2nd time, odd as it was from my mobile but guess it's the proverbial 'pocket send' somehow. The only thing I had to shed was pointing out the comment which opinions are everywhere, it just frustrated me as I never meant for this to be a best of to single out or leave someone out. But as my son would point out at least they watched. Happy holidays to all btw j j > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> I don't see your response here. Did you type anything? >> >> Matt >> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Jim Goodin >> wrote: >> > On 12/22/09, Matt Davignon wrote: >> >> This is something that's discussed in depth in my local experimental >> >> music community. >> >> >> >> As much as they may like the actual music, it's very hard to get >> >> people to go to a concert or listen to a cd if the music is described >> >> as "cutting edge", "adventurous", or even "new". A more successful >> >> tactic may be to draw similarities to music they already like. >> >> >> >> I can think of 2 possible reasons for this. Not sure which is more >> true. >> >> >> >> 1) I think human brains have an aversion to "too much information" or >> >> "unknown quantities". If I were to ask an average person, "Would you >> >> rather go to McDonalds, or to someplace where the rules of physics >> >> don't apply," most folks would choose McDonald's. >> >> >> >> 2) As someone who listens to a lot of "out there" music, I find that >> >> the more people claim their music is "bizarre" or "like something >> >> you've never heard before", the more sophomoric and predictable the >> >> music seems to be. I find the best weird music is from people who've >> >> been doing it long enough that they don't find it weird. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Matt Davignon >> >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> >> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > >> > ReUse, an introspective textural aural >> > www.myspace.com/CtReUse >> > >> > music links... >> > www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >> > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >> > www.myspace.com/jindream >> > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > >> > video work/editing... >> > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >> > >> > social networking... >> > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Davignon >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >> > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001517440f9a197d2b047b589754 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt=A0 no that must have been a bogus send the 2nd time, odd as it was fro= m my mobile but guess it's the proverbial 'pocket send' somehow= .=A0 The only thing I had to shed was pointing out the comment which opinio= ns are everywhere, it just frustrated me as I never meant for this to be a = best of to single out or leave someone out.=A0 But as my son would point ou= t at least they watched.
=A0
Happy holidays to all btw
=A0
j

j

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Matt Davignon <= span dir=3D"ltr"><mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Jim,

I don't see y= our response here. Did you type anything?

Ma= tt

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> On 12/22/09, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is something that's discussed in depth in my local experi= mental
>> music community.
>>
>> As much as they= may like the actual music, it's very hard to get
>> people to= go to a concert or listen to a cd if the music is described
>> as "cutting edge", "adventurous", or even &quo= t;new". A more successful
>> tactic may be to draw similariti= es to music they already like.
>>
>> I can think of 2 pos= sible reasons for this. Not sure which is more true.
>>
>> 1) I think human brains have an aversion to "too = much information" or
>> "unknown quantities". If I = were to ask an average person, "Would you
>> rather go to McD= onalds, or to someplace where the rules of physics
>> don't apply," most folks would choose McDonald's.
= >>
>> 2) As someone who listens to a lot of "out there&= quot; music, I find that
>> the more people claim their music is &= quot;bizarre" or "like something
>> you've never heard before", the more sophomoric and predi= ctable the
>> music seems to be. I find the best weird music is fr= om people who've
>> been doing it long enough that they don= 9;t find it weird.
>>
>> --
>> Matt Davignon
>> www.ribosomemusic.com>> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>>
>>
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device<= br>>
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> ww= w.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream> w= ww.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
&= gt;
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>

--

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt=

--

ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse
music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.co= m/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social netw= orking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--
ReUse, = an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

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=0A=0A=0A=0A Get your Christmas sh= opping sorted now with Yahoo!= Xtra Shopping. --0-1755164821-1261522196=:93043-- From "mark.akovo."@live.fr Wed Dec 23 01:49:27 2009 Return-Path: <"mark.akovo."@live.fr> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4230 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:49:27 UTC Received: from hartronserver.hartron.cc (hartronserver.hartron.cc [203.92.44.78]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018353BE77 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (unknown [41.222.192.100]) by hartronserver.hartron.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A46987D5A; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:48:53 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: From: "Mr Mark Akovo" Subject: spam Your Urgent Attention Please Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:34:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20091223001854.6A46987D5A@hartronserver.hartron.cc> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Attention Please Permit me to use this means to seek your partnership in this transfer opportunity. I am Mr. Mark Akovo, A personal accountant officer. I am contacting you regarding my client who bear the same last name with you, and this is the major reason why I have choose to contact you to share this benefits with me. my client and his entire family were involved in a fatal motor accident along the Port Novo express road years back, which unfortunately claimed their lives, with out sparing any occupants of the vehicle. Since then I have made several enquiries to your Embassy just to locate any relation of my client, but on all my efforts could not get any of his relative, then decided to trace his last name over the internet, and I came across your name which is why I have chose to contacted you as partner to assist me in securing the money and property left behind by my late client. I am particularly interested in securing the funds of $18.5 million usd he lodged here, because the financial firm has issued a notice to me as his officer clearly instructing me to produce the Beneficiary to the said account within the next ten official working days, or else the fund 18.5million USD will be confiscated to the government account and the government official will end up sharing it among themselves. Considering these fact, I need your consent to enable me produce you as the beneficiary to my late client, since you both bear the same last name, The funds will then be transferred to you as the beneficiary and the sharing ratio will be 60% for me and 40% for you. if you are willing to cooperate with me, get back with the following information . Your full name..................Your direct phone numbers...................Your occupation...................Your age.......................Your country and contact Address....................... This information�s will be use to commence some changes on my client File as his beneficiary. This is 100% risk free, because I have in place all the documents to achieve this claim, so I will need your promptness in understanding and co-operation to make sure the fund is transfer to your position before next week end. i wait for your urgent response to my private email: markakovo@live.fr Regards, Mr. Mark Akovo From mrlamidos777@gmail.com Wed Dec 23 03:58:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5624 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:58:32 UTC Received: from email.feparana.com.br (email.feparana.com.br [200.150.64.38]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023793BE77; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by email.feparana.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812C911DE58; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:08:52 -0200 (BRST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.feparana.com.br Received: from email.feparana.com.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (email.feparana.com.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6KwycD1Rq3sU; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:08:37 -0200 (BRST) Received: from User (unknown [82.128.33.172]) by email.feparana.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F2893122461; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:04:20 -0200 (BRST) Reply-To: From: "MR. LAMIDO SANUSI.CBN." Subject:***SPAM-JP*** YOUR PAYMENT FILE ON MY DESK: (CODE :FGN/CBN3124-FILE111-CBN) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:08:28 -1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091219-0, 12/19/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20091223000438.F2893122461@email.feparana.com.br> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Attention:Beneficiary I write to introduce myself as Mr Lamido Sanusi,present governor of Central Bank of Nigeria.I resume office as the Central Bank of Nigeria Governor on the 3rd of June 2009,taking office from Prof Charles C.Soludo.Since i resume office,i have been having series of meeting with the high and low breed of staff of the Central Bank of Nigeria,regarding why inherited funds and contract award payment have not been release to the beneficiaries.My findings shows that some corrupt officials have been extorting money from foreigner's through various government offices,with involvement with the former Governor of Central Bank of Nigeria,without transferring there funds.These complain by foreigner's got to the president through the United Nations,that was why the former Governor of Central Bank of Nigeria,was force to resign his appointment as the Governor of Central Bank of Nigeria. The Federal Government has just approved to be paid out through my office within the next 48 hours and if you are truly a contractor/Beneficairy. Re-confirm the following immediately for payment approval: 1) Your full name. 2) Phone, fax and mobile #. 3) Company name, position and address. 4) Profession, age and marital status. 5) Copy of int'l passport, driver's linsense, or any valid ID card. Please quote this payment codes(CODE :FGN/CBN3124-FILE111-CBN) in all conversation or else you will not be recognised as a beneficiary/contractor with this Government and note any further message without my pictured should be disregarded to avoid any fraudulent hijack of information. Get back to me via my alternative email address: lamidosanusi.cbn.ng01@gazeta.pl Yours faithfully MR.LAMIDO SANUSI EXECUTIVE GOVERNOR CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA From cb.nfedral@hotmail.com Wed Dec 23 12:26:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9509 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:26:31 UTC Received: from alphaservice.selfip.net (host177-216-static.44-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it [88.44.216.177]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BB53BE77; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (unknown [82.128.35.67]) by alphaservice.selfip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37A618C6934; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:54:51 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: From: "ISLAM ORGANISATION" Subject: AFORTUNADO GANADOR Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:55:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20091223085452.B37A618C6934@alphaservice.selfip.net> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Estimado Se�or / Se�ora, Esto es para que le notifique que ha sido elegido por el junta de s�ndicos de Socorro Isl�mico Pa�ses Bajos como uno de los beneficiarios finales a recibir donaciones en efectivo para econ�mico el desarrollo y el alivio de la pobreza. De acuerdo con su objetivos, y los objetivos, Socorro Isl�mico Pa�ses Bajos est� dando a cabo 100,000,000..00 (Cien millones de euros) a 80 beneficiarios en todo el mundo internacional de negocios desarrollo, el desarrollo econ�mico y la pobreza erradicaci�n. Su direcci�n de correo electr�nico fue seleccionado sobre la base de una Internet Selecci�n aleatoria ejercicio; por lo tanto, se confirm� uno de los afortunados beneficiarios tienen derecho a recibir 1000000,00 como donaciones en efectivo de Socorro Isl�mico Pa�ses Bajos. T� est�n por todos los medios aconseja conservar toda esta informaci�n confidencial hasta que haya recogido sus donaciones en efectivo; esto es para evitar la suplantaci�n y sin reservas reclamaci�n. Para presentar para su reclamaci�n, por favor p�ngase en contacto Socorro Isl�mico oficina internacional departamento de reclamaciones, por Nivel documentaciones, notario, la legalizaci�n, y de Procesamiento de su derecho 1,000,000.00. Persona de contacto: Dr.Alli Mohammed Azam Correo electr�nico: paycente2_persona@yahoo.es TEL:+44-704-576-1008 , +44-703-599-7761 Tratar de citar los n�meros de su Nivel (IRN-101 - 555, AMS-111-90) en toda su correspondencia con el Dr Alli Mohammed Azam. En nombre de la Junta, la amabilidad de aceptar nuestra m�s c�lidas felicitaciones! En nombre de la Junta, la amabilidad de aceptar nuestras m�s c�lidas Felicidades! Atentamente, Se�ora Maria Goodna From drallen.oscar@yahoo.co.nz Wed Dec 23 12:51:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3003 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:51:45 UTC Received: from host.ithost.eu (ks20937.kimsufi.com [91.121.26.214]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069E63BE77; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=[91.121.26.214]) by host.ithost.eu with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NNPIN-0005vI-V8; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:22:24 +0100 Received: from 81.91.235.239 (SquirrelMail authenticated user henry22@tacded.ithost.eu) by 91.121.26.214 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:22:23 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:22:23 +0100 Subject: REGARD'S FROM REV DR OSCAR ALLEN From: "Dr Oscar Allen" Reply-To: droscar44@gmail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hello My Dear Friend, Greetings to you & your Family,You might find it so difficult to remember me.Though it is indeed,a very long time.On my singular,I am much delighted and privileged to contact you again, after couple of years now. It takes fate,courage and God's fearing to remember old friends and at the same time, to show gratification to them, despite circumstances that made things, not worked out as we projected then. I am presently in JAPAN,for numerous business negotiations and establishment,I just arrived yesterday night and checked inn,in a hotel and decided to go down this morment to the hotel business centre to mail you.Now,with my sincere heart, I have raised and signed an International Cashier's Bank Draft,to the Sum of ($1.2USD) (ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS) only in your name as a COMPENSATION to your dedication,humanity and contribution, as it were. I take this liberty to inform you that, the transaction we were pursing together,finally worked out by God's infinite mercy and I decided to contact you, just to let you know. You are advised to stop any further communication with your local representative(s) any officials(s)department whom may call you or email concerning the check draft what sum of ($1.2M) Only Contact (skyline) Security/Courier Company Service as soon as possible to know when they will deliver your package to you because of the expiring date of the cheque. Note:I have paid for the delivering Charges,The only money you will send to the (skyline)Security Courier/ Company Service to delivered your bank draft direct to your postal Address in your country is ($98.00USD) only being their Safety Security Keeping of the Draft. Again, Do not be deceive by anybody to pay any other money except ($98.00USD) I would have paid that but they said no because they don't know when you will contact them and in case of demurrage. You have to contact the Skyline Courier Service now for the delivery of your Draft with this information bellow. Meanwhile the deposite certificate of This draft will be send to you as soon as you contact them: Contact person: Dr. Obi Ginter. E-mail:(skylinesecurity@list.ru) Tel/Fax: +229 98 79 10 93 Registration Reference No of the Package: FDXB/xxx/100 Code Number:xxxKP/229B. You are to forward to him, the following information's as urgent:a 1).YOUR NAME/HOUSE ADDRESS: 2). YOU�RE TELEPHONE NUMBER: 3).YOUR INTERNATIONAL ID COPY: Yours Faithfully, Dr Allen Oscar From westdeutschelotterie@gmx.de Wed Dec 23 14:57:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2336 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:57:50 UTC Received: from mail2.utlonline.co.ug (smtp.utlonline.co.ug [196.0.3.20]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0394D3BE77 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32217 invoked by uid 509); 23 Dec 2009 16:50:21 +0300 Received: from 196.0.26.14 by mail2.utlonline.co.ug (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.94/8376. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(196.0.26.14):. Processed in 0.161099 secs); 23 Dec 2009 13:50:21 -0000 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: westdeutschelotterie@gmx.de via mail2.utlonline.co.ug X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(196.0.26.14):. Processed in 0.161099 secs Process 32098) Received: from mail.cmauganda.co.ug (HELO cmauganda.co.ug) (196.0.26.14) by mail2.utlonline.co.ug with SMTP; 23 Dec 2009 16:50:20 +0300 Received: (qmail 29445 invoked by uid 453); 23 Dec 2009 13:59:48 -0000 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on cmauganda.co.ug Received: from localhost (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by cmauganda.co.ug (qpsmtpd/0.40) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:59:48 +0300 Received: from 41.194.53.231 ([41.194.53.231]) by mail.cmauganda.co.ug (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:59:34 +0300 Message-ID: <20091223165934.14553bruuk52btyc@mail.cmauganda.co.ug> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:59:34 +0300 From: "James Williams" Reply-to: jameswill1958@aol.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Reference Number: WL/GmbH-23/07-OHG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2) Westdeutsche Lotterie GmbH & Co. OHG Central Office Management and Central Services: Rosenstrasse 12-16 DE - 70156 Stuttgart Germany Reference Number: WL/GmbH-23/07-OHG Batch: WL/07- GmbH/9907 Congratulations!!! We are pleased to inform you of the result of the just concluded annual final draws of the Westdeutsche Lotterie GmbH & Co. OHG Program. Westdeutsche Lotterie GmbH & Co. OHG draws was conducted from an exclusive list of 25,000,000 e-mail addresses of individual and corporate bodies picked by an advanced automated random computer ballot search from the internet as part of our international promotions program which we conduct every year. "No tickets were sold." After this automated computer ballot, your e-mail address attached to serial number 07-9907 drew the lucky numbers 9-11-25-30-38-46 which consequently emerged you as one of first fifty (50) lucky winners in this category. You have therefore been approved for a lump sum payout of ?500,000.00 =20 (Five Hundred Thousand Euro Only) in cash credited to file =20 WL/GmbH-23/07-OHG. This is from a total cash prize of ?25 Million Euro shared amongst the first fifty (50) lucky winners in this category. These funds is given to you for your business,educational and personal development, and at least 10% to be used by you to develop part of your enviroment, which is a measure of universal development strategy, and eradication of poverty. This year Lottery Program Jackpot is the largest ever for Westdeutsche Lotterie GmbH & Co. OHG. The estimated ?50 million jackpot would be the sixth-biggest in Europe history. The biggest was the ?363 million jackpot that went to two winners in a Febuary 2003 drawing of The Big Game Mega Millions' predecessor. The idea of this lottery program is that within ten years from now, there will be notable richness among many unusual people around the world. This will give many people the opportunity to kick start their lives to a stage where they had always wanted. Your fund is now deposited in an offshore bank with a hardcover insurance. Due to the mix up of some numbers,names and e-mail addresses, we advice that you keep this award from public notice until your claim has been processed and your money remitted to your nominated bank account as this is part of our security protocol to avoid double claiming or unwarranted taking advantage of this program by the general public. Please note that your lucky winning number falls within our booklet representative office in London. In view of this, your ?500,000.00 =20 (Five Hundred Thousand Euro Only) would be released to you by our =20 affiliate bank in London. However, our agent will immediately commence =20 the process to facilitate the release of your funds to you as soon as you make contact with him. To begin your claim please contact our licensed and accredited agent assigned to you with the following information 1. NAME, 2. ADDRESS, 3. =20 PHONE/FAX NUMBER, 4. SEX, AGE AND YOUR OCCUPATION. Mr.James Williams Westdeutsche Lotterie GmbH & Co. OHG Lotto Payment Release Order Dept: London Representative Office. Phone: +44-70-35976471 Your claims agent will assist you in the processing and remittance of your prize funds into your designated bank account. Note that all prize funds must be claimed not later than 3 weeks. After this date all funds will be returned to the LOTTERY TREASURY as unclaimed. In order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications, please endeavor to quote your Reference Number:WL/GmbH-23/07-OHG and Batch numbers:WL/07- GmbH/9907 in every correspondence with your agent. Furthermore, should there be any change in your address, do inform your claims agent as soon as possible. Members of the affiliate agencies are automatically not allowed to participate in this program. Congratulations once again from all members of our staff and thanks for being part of our promotions program. Yours faithfully, Mrs.Susi Cristoph Promotions Manager. Westdeutsche Lotterie GmbH & Co. OHG. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Dec 23 15:43:56 2009 Return-Path: <> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from omr10.networksolutionsemail.com (omr10.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.60]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C763BE77 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr10.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id nBNFhm8i026385 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:43:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200912231543.nBNFhm8i026385@omr10.networksolutionsemail.com> Received: (qmail 3331 invoked by uid 78); 23 Dec 2009 15:43:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (osha1@erringtonhomes.net@41.208.185.39) by ns-omr2.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2009 15:43:47 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Komen Steven"<"Komen Steven"@omr10.networksolutionsemail.com> To: stevenkomen@i12.com Subject: Hello dear Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:44:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Hello Dearest,

I know this might come to you as a surprise, but please do accept it in good faith and treat as a matter of urgency with utmost confidentiality. I am Miss Komen Mahachi from Gaharb-Darfur Sudan; Northeastern Africa, now seeking political asylum in Dakar Senegal under the UNHCR as a refugee.

I am searching for a true friend. Some one who is God fearing, kind and honest to stand as my foreign representative to help me receive my inheritance funds so I can leave this camp and come to your country to continue my education. Please kindly write me back

Thanks and God bless.

Greetings from,

Miss Komen
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With due= respect trust and humanity, i appeal to you to exercise a little patience = and read through my letter i feel quite safe dealing with you in this impor= tant business having gone through your remarkable profile, honestly i am wr= iting this email to you with pains, tears and sorrow from my heart, i will = really like to have a good relationship with you and i have a special reaso= n why i decided to contact you, i decided to contact you due to the urgency= of my situation.=20 Please permit me to introduce myself formally as Scolla H.Sahili, hail from= western region of Darfur in Sudan but presently taking refugee in OUAGADOU= GOU , BURKINA-FASO. I do not know all about you as I am obliged to seek int= o the confines of your heart and bring to your knowledge on how helpful you= r assistance matters to my future.=20 =C2=A0=20 My late father Dr. Mandey Sahili, former Chairman of the Board of Directors= of the National Gold and Cotton Corporation of Sudan, died as a result of = a power struggle between President Umar al-Bashir and the ousted parliament= speaker Hasan al-Turabi, the main ideologue of Sudan=E2=80=99s Islamist go= vernment, while my mother died as a result of hypertension after our arriva= l to OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA-FASO.=20 =C2=A0=20 It is my pleasure to contact you for a business venture which I intend to e= stablish in your country. Though I have not met with you before, but I beli= eve one has to risk confiding in someone to succeed sometimes in life. 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Dearest=20

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I am writing this mail to you with tears and sorrow= from my heart. With due respect trust and humanity, i appeal to you to exe= rcise a little patience and read through my letter i feel quite safe dealin= g with you in this important business having gone through your remarkable p= rofile, honestly i am writing this email to you with pains, tears and sorro= w from my heart, i will really like to have a good relationship with you an= d i have a special reason why i decided to contact you, i decided to contac= t you due to the urgency of my situation.=20

Please permit me to introduce myself= formally as Scolla H.Sahili, hail from western region of Darfur in Sudan b= ut presently taking refugee in OUAGADOUGOU , BURKINA-FASO. I do not know al= l about you as I am obliged to seek into the confines of your heart and bri= ng to your knowledge on how helpful your assistance matters to my future.=20
=20
My late father Dr. Mandey Sahili, fo= rmer Chairman of the Board of Directors of the National Gold and Cotton Cor= poration of Sudan, died as a result of a power struggle between President U= mar al-Bashir and the ousted parliament speaker Hasan al-Turabi, the main i= deologue of Sudan=E2=80=99s Islamist government, while my mother died as a = result of hypertension after our arrival to OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA-FASO.=20
=20
It is my pleasure to contact you for= a business venture which I intend to establish in your country. Though I h= ave not met with you before, but I believe one has to risk confiding in som= eone to succeed sometimes in life. There is this family treasure box that c= ontains a very huge amount of fifteen million, five hundred thousand dollar= s ($15.5million) which my late mother deposited in a Global security compan= y here in OUAGADOUGOU , BURKINA-FASO. Upon our arrival.=20
=20
Now I have decided to invest this mo= ney in your country or anywhere safe enough outside Africa due to security = and political reasons. I want you to help me claim and retrieve this family= treasure box from the custody of the security company and transfer it to y= our country for investment purposes in these areas:=20

Telecommunication.

The transport industry.

Five-star hotel.

Real estate management.

If you can be of an assistance to me= I will be pleased to offer to you 15% of the total fund. Note that any del= ay in replying me will give me room in searching for another for the same p= urpose.=20
=20
Best regard,=20
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Miss Scolla H. Sahili.
Please reply to my alt= ernative email: (scollahs@voila.fr)=20

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=0AThe INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! = See your Yahoo! Homepage. --0-1834184273-1261588162=:9408-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 23 21:14:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 878403BE82; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=D1sBP6PEXySOtXwGDHOBw/1uBM8h+iPiFyw6APQ/hXE=; b=dQ010pp3FQ0Ou5H+bz/wYw1VmtENjbseQXjHrYvRjxjO2Zij15z/7eotHd9IWsmqMF 96CU7WKZdYPXHgAcraMO7P7Q7s+IK1XOvSzRozO1JkaK/gU1mP/urXF738RFKQcumkx5 Dd3cNMlF9YXqPsImzRuzhg8rkhtwNVgNutubg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Sl7hYtFSNsKYFW+KOct4zcidO2Gt777k1nA/AXp3He9/x7BTZem73Tx4fBRrY3/n7m DcWaOv6RBgl2iA7B1YkUmU+NBUQ8zhBMyHx3Ol/hJMqRPR2bFFMjOx+j1i5mqXETuFk8 KsB9oLmcXICK5dwwbbAF44rWUklX0FdtTnnOQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:14:35 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Ghost of Christmas Future From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:14:37 +0000 (UTC) I thought this was pretty funny - there's an Onion article today, "Ghost Of Christmas Future Taunts Children With Visions Of PlayStation 5". The Playstation 5 in the image looks suspiciously like an Alesis AirFX. http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ghost_of_christmas_future_taunts -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 24 01:58:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 601BB3BE82; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6fzzJtvhLR7DVZOX0Y+QhFL/x+V3muBu0rMj/Cv9IZw=; b=e5IhhMY2pH33GMcXopzmryrfnJEsnOHw7Nrq4D8rTnyTmih0cy4i9KUaVAZpOhtsOJ JbYs771l/cE1uko0Gi3hcqOctPhVOzEdilJJexjwwzEjvhO4a9NBGec99KLCkOenJgZ3 yKK2GG11/q0wsFRrEzeBRFMp/Die62mwabug4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QOV0G26VtcJ36mphVYMj0FDXm6mIKC/5RjVlalPYLE4pyLec8VdQ8biJmNJQ8MN8+s MPo7RBvdIHBG07zKfHKoYSn7gyr1jG0YB9Nxxlly7V3HDoolZF0h8KbJ0ZZtOHEYsQwE gP+1M2VDiBGB1URDhvBlDxF9nhACejdmaQer0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:58:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ghost of Christmas Future From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d5667af17f64047b6fc4d3 Resent-Message-ID: <4ce1y.A.ewF.tqsMLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:58:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d5667af17f64047b6fc4d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes. it is the alesis playstation. :-) 2009/12/23 Matt Davignon > I thought this was pretty funny - there's an Onion article today, > "Ghost Of Christmas Future Taunts Children With Visions Of PlayStation > 5". The Playstation 5 in the image looks suspiciously like an Alesis > AirFX. > > http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ghost_of_christmas_future_taunts > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d5667af17f64047b6fc4d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes. it is the alesis playstation. :-)

20= 09/12/23 Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
I thought this was pretty funny - there's an Onion article today,
"Ghost Of Christmas Future Taunts Children With Visions Of PlayStation=
5". The Playstation 5 in the image looks suspiciously like an Alesis AirFX.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ghost_of_chri= stmas_future_taunts

--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

--
Raul Bonell at B= logger: http://raulbonell.blogsp= ot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d5667af17f64047b6fc4d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 24 08:58:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECFA53BE84; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B332DA3.70009@het.it> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:00:19 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo liverani User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; it; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ghost of Christmas Future References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------030201050807070800030109" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:58:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030201050807070800030109 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes is the air fx, got one instead of all...
MARRY XMAST AND YAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!

Max Liver

Il 24/12/2009 2.58, Raul Bonell ha scritto:
yes. it is the alesis playstation. :-)

2009/12/23 Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>

I thought this was pretty funny - there's an Onion article today,
"Ghost Of Christmas Future Taunts Children With Visions Of PlayStation
5". The Playstation 5 in the image looks suspiciously like an Alesis
AirFX.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ghost_of_christmas_future_taunts

--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--

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Have a very Loopy Christmas! j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:52 AM Subject: Looping fiddler In a search for a traditional tune King of the Fairies I've been = learning stumbled on to this guy who is doing some cool stuff spinning = about this tune and looping on a DL-4. Passing along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgjFKNPnboF0&feature=3Drelated --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA8492.89A4EFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
great tune there Jim! Have a very Loopy = Christmas!

j

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, = 2009 12:52=20 AM

Subject: Looping fiddler

In a search for a traditional tune King of the Fairies = I've=20 been learning stumbled on to this guy who is doing some cool stuff = spinning=20 about this tune and looping on a DL-4. Passing along.

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I assured = =0Aof your capability and reliability to champion this business =0Aopportun= ity.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 After series of =0Aprayers/fasting= . i was divinely directed to contact you among other names found in the dat= a base Yahoo =0Atourist search.I believe that God has a way of helping who = is in =0Aneed.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0I am (Ben Coroma.the Head =0Aof file= Department in African development bank =0A(ADB).=0A In my department we =0Adiscovered an abandoned sum of $15 million U.S.A dol= lars ( fifteen million U.S.A =0Adollars). 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It is ther= efore upon this =0Adiscovery that I and one official in my department now d= ecided to make this =0Abusiness proposal to you and release the money to yo= u as the next of kin or =0Arelation to the deceased for safety and subseque= nt disbursement since nobody is =0Acoming for it and we don=E2=80=99t want = this money to go into the bank treasury as =0Aunclaimed bill. The Banking law and guideline here stipulates that if =0Asuch money remaine= d unclaimed after=C2=A0five (5)=C2=A0years, the money will be =0Atransferre= d into the Bank treasury as unclaimed fund. The request of foreigner =0Aas = next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer wa= s =0Aa foreigner, and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigne= r. We =0Aagree that 40% of this money will be for you as foreign partner, i= n respect to =0Athe provision of a foreign account,and 60% would be for me.= That means ($6 =0Amillion)=C2=A0 six million dollars for you,and ($9 milli= on) nine million dollars for me and my partner. =0AThere after i will visit= your country for disbursement according to the =0Apercentages indicated.= =C2=A0 =0AAll I require is your honest =0Acooperation to enable us seeing this dea= l through. I guarantee that this will be =0Aexecuted under a legitimate arr= angement that will protect you from any breach of =0Athe law. Please consid= er my official positions, reputation and integrity, =0Aespecially, the oppo= rtunities in the business itself, it is very necessary that =0Aall due care= be taken so that we do not miss the opportunity due to =0Acarelessness. = =0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You are therefore expected and advised to =0Adisplay = high degree of maturity, responsibility and understanding in handling =0Ath= is information.=C2=A0 I will give you all the details in my next mail when = you have =0Aindicated your interest and commitment to work with me. =C2=A0A= lways remember that =0Athis is the highest confidence and trust any person = can repose on the other,=C2=A0 =0Aespecially when it is considered that we = did not know =0Aourselves=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0I hope you will honor me too.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 I will come =0Aover to join you in your Country for disbursement = when the funds hit your =0Aaccount. 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African =0ADevelopment Bank (A.D.B).
Ouagadougou Burkina-Faso =0AWest =0AAfrica= .
=0A
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     F= orgive my indignation =0Aif this message comes to you as a surprise and may= offend your personality for =0Acontacting you without your prior consent a= nd writing through this channel. I =0Agot your contact from the proffesiona= l data base found in the internet Yahoo =0Atourist search. When i was = searching for a foreign reliable partner. I assured =0Aof your capability a= nd reliability to champion this business =0Aopportunity.
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I am (Ben Corom= a.the Head =0Aof file Department in African= development bank =0A(ADB).
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In my department we =0Ad= iscovered an abandoned sum of $15 million U.S.A dollars ( fifteen million U= .S.A =0Adollars). In an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer= who died =0Aalong with all his family in the Asia Earth Quake Disaster (TS= UNAMI DISASTER IN =0AINDONESIA/INDIA http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2004/tsunami.di= saster/. All of his =0AFamily lost there lives in t= he Disaster. Since then I have made several =0Ainquiries to his Count= ry embassy to locate any of his client's extended =0ARelatives, this h= as proved unsuccessful. After these several unsuccessful =0Aattempts<= /font>, unfortunately we learnt that all his supposed next of = =0Akin or relation died along side with him at the TSUNAMI DISASTER IN= =0AINDONESIA/INDIA leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore up= on this =0Adiscovery that I and one official in my department now decided t= o make this =0Abusiness proposal to you and release the money to you as the= next of kin or =0Arelation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbu= rsement since nobody is =0Acoming for it and we don=E2=80=99t want this mon= ey to go into the bank treasury as =0Aunclaimed bill.

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          =             &nb= sp;           =0A&n= bsp;I hope you will honor me too.
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Ben =0ACoroma.
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=0AThe INT= ERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage<= /a>. --0-1102899042-1261677453=:20656-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 24 18:23:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 383DB3BE85; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=P9pcpgU/iOYj/mk+COe8Y1b5thMttZLmLr636zek5M4=; b=OOMvJ+z7i5xIIl2O40S3TrQxxPEJo2DH61BrlZieypt1hseOcHpoDM5kcH1AhXa8y1 Xpm0d+PacfIDmt5rX8VDs6IojlnuW2Y4hCxaIWqvZuAbDIg8oCeBbD1v4ZQJxC/unHzE MGvPbPoz5h67rgiEWpC+AmhLrBv7jBBGfH9Yc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kRk1ro3kKtn+P4hBL65JF2TLIO35m+tSQrZDnnDhnMNPNIlUWM/DCcByBX421aAtO3 D+d4f3OIg598m7LWPuerMx1ev7x3Wh7TnA1yqBCxngQIhJyZZb0T1sdoy+5boud35Cm/ WZ+Fvt2xWriSCURTJV+eIoMG9KUFIrIV9Zl00= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005b01ca84bd$145a7b80$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> References: <005b01ca84bd$145a7b80$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:23:51 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912241023w3bfbd200ga4480b3e33989702@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Christmas music online From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174783407f62e2047b7d8af7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) --0015174783407f62e2047b7d8af7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Darn Stephen sorry I just missed this, hope you hit record... will check it out later if you did. Congrats on doing a ustream this was your first no? Merry Christmas to you... On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Fellow looper Stephen Goodman is playing now on Ustream for his 12 Days of > Christmas +1 Show. > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 > > > peace, > > Jeff > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174783407f62e2047b7d8af7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Darn Stephen sorry I just missed this, hope you hit record... will check it= out later if you did.=A0 Congrats on doing a ustream this was your first n= o?=A0 Merry Christmas to you...

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmai= l.com> wrote:

Fellow looper Stephen Goodman is= playing now on Ustream for his 12 Days of Christmas +1 Show.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---200= 9

peace,

Jeff

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www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
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social networkin= g...
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--0015174783407f62e2047b7d8af7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 24 18:25:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0F1C3BE7E; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Vipre-Scanned: 06B8B6660015CB06B8B7B3-TDI Message-ID: <666F8F0B60AA430EB5B6DE74F6EAC258@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <005b01ca84bd$145a7b80$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <005b01ca84bd$145a7b80$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Christmas music online Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:25:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: <2Cb0mB.A.1f.YI7MLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Jeff - I hadn't had a chance to do a gigspam campaign, so thanks. Yep, I'll be playing every day at 4pm GMT - today being an exception at 5 - until Twelfth Night, aka 5 January. I'm working on variations and rearrangements of traditional Christmas Carols. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 And Merry Christmas to one and all. Whip out that mulled wine! > Fellow looper Stephen Goodman is playing now on Ustream for his 12 Days of > Christmas +1 Show. > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.tv http://www.ustream.tv/StephenGoodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 24 18:26:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3A893BE78; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jhcyn/ml2kHKY7CQ3xrmPEiH3ihQaC+d46mAMQxX3oM=; b=JxwAo/0bOS9V1KKKaZFrRmvLQPp6lejRx402RsGDSppPKfWO0Zssv5F+5WjCoCMR+S oGiVwi+yjLBdgcCLEPwWImh+1TP0o8HtD5C1u6zAk4T15UCHp8d/qJmD/v7XmU5HY8no p27y/HczJ8UvcTOvezQ5kZN9L2qDaQePsNnWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eeQhOQuSf/yM5yn4HPcw48Z4SjrFjBEjYoJ3uTKEvvuqRvokebPPZdYr/eFp91wCQb 9gUwNujCUwWqy28rxFLmLldJEDebiGyllf9il8TIwn7qpbRsTl+PxBUWileJ5DWKTdEM evHzHwVoTiWwvOJMXn2wcZj0VHtezG7/8RZEk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005101ca84bc$72ce4800$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60912212152k1f543319kaddcb1413056874b@mail.gmail.com> <005101ca84bc$72ce4800$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:26:11 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912241026u19b9d8a8mdfa34341dc2357df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping fiddler From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fe52ad98c6d047b7d92c9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:26:14 +0000 (UTC) --0015173fe52ad98c6d047b7d92c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 it was, thought he had a really playful and creative way of doing a spin on this tune. Has given me some ideas though I need more power to my bow for sure... and a Loopy Christmas as well Jeffrey! Per, Paul glad you dug it and Merry Christmas to you and all on the list... On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > great tune there Jim! Have a very Loopy Christmas! > > j > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:52 AM > *Subject:* Looping fiddler > > In a search for a traditional tune King of the Fairies I've been learning > stumbled on to this guy who is doing some cool stuff spinning about this > tune and looping on a DL-4. Passing along. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjFKNPnboF0&feature=related > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015173fe52ad98c6d047b7d92c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it was, thought he had a really playful and creative way of doing a spin on= this tune.=A0 Has given me some ideas though I need more power to my bow f= or sure... and a Loopy Christmas as well Jeffrey!=A0 Per, Paul glad you dug= it and Merry Christmas to you and all on the list...

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmai= l.com> wrote:

great tune there Jim! Have a very Loop= y Christmas!

=A0

j

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Goodin

To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:= 52 AM

Subject: Looping fiddler

In a search for a traditional tune King of the Fairies I'= ;ve been learning stumbled on to this guy who is doing some cool stuff spin= ning about this tune and looping on a DL-4.=A0 Passing along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgjFKNPnboF0&feature=3D= related

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m= usic links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.co= m/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social netw= orking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.comwww.myspace.com/jimgood= inmusic
www.myspace.com/china= paintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodin= music

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--0015173fe52ad98c6d047b7d92c9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 24 18:32:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B7323BE7E; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Vipre-Scanned: 06BF2ABB0015CB06BF2C08-TDI Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <005b01ca84bd$145a7b80$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60912241023w3bfbd200ga4480b3e33989702@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60912241023w3bfbd200ga4480b3e33989702@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Christmas music online Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:32:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0169_01CA84C7.6E87C3B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:32:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0169_01CA84C7.6E87C3B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jim Goodin=20 Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:23 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Christmas music online Darn Stephen sorry I just missed this, hope you hit record... will check = it out later if you did. Congrats on doing a ustream this was your = first no? Merry Christmas to you... On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: Fellow looper Stephen Goodman is playing now on Ustream for his 12 = Days of Christmas +1 Show. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 peace, Jeff Yes, I did indeed record, as I only made THAT mistake once. I really am = awful at promotion right now. Thanks to encouragement by Jeff Duke and = Matt Stevens I've jumped on the ustream/livestream ship - and have also = started footwork towards establishing an ambient TV channel (The = EarthLight Channel, subscription, no traditional adverts is the idea at = birth at least). This last will provide a good venue or portal in the = future, for more than myself. I have been performing "Audio Tarot Bone Throw" at midnight Friday = (that's the END of Friday, to be clear) GMT for over a month now, and = wanted to do some Christmas music, but not just once; so, 12 Days of = Christmas then. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 Now sing after me: Five Golden Ring Modulators! Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.tv http://www.ustream.tv/StephenGoodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0169_01CA84C7.6E87C3B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From: Jim Goodin

Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:23 PM

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Subject: Re: Christmas music online

Darn Stephen sorry I just missed this, hope you hit = record...=20 will check it out later if you did. Congrats on doing a ustream = this was=20 your first no? Merry Christmas to you...

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
Fellow looper Stephen Goodman is playing now on = Ustream for=20 his 12 Days of Christmas +1 Show.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1-= --2009

peace,

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I have been performing "Audio = Tarot Bone=20 Throw" at midnight Friday (that's the END of Friday, to be clear) GMT = for over a=20 month now, and wanted to do some Christmas music, but not just once; so, = 12 Days=20 of Christmas then.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1-= --2009

Now sing after me: Five Golden = Ring=20 Modulators!

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Hypnotic at times, I will try to watch all the rest also, it's at a good time for me to attend. Merry Christmas to you and yours. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Goodman" To: Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Christmas music online > Thanks Jeff - I hadn't had a chance to do a gigspam campaign, so thanks. > Yep, I'll be playing every day at 4pm GMT - today being an exception at > 5 - until Twelfth Night, aka 5 January. I'm working on variations and > rearrangements of traditional Christmas Carols. > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 > > And Merry Christmas to one and all. 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Tel:+447045712478 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 24 23:31:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 677403BE84; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1EG+AOqZuPXC/udGZOuBuzpAaMgioQ//sGzdOoLPG8g=; b=MWLEFt9fWnPrtIGdqdEBr2mSi1Je3Cf0aSKbEeOCeIc9/36vMF5JDWtw9OBrmFC4aa 6tn3eeMP9vCv7t6JMARK5g5WcGVyg1Sd9JWD0xZOdeCtYH4OLOPlGLPf8oS6uYqy7fYc 3zu+/H31SO5lAtvkFVjGTwXSpmRpOCXTi3YEA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mrJUoznl4iNiUm+vUUURUPAKKBxXfwr1LHuYib3f3YEdxMCTH8mue2YHeF2tNyA1V6 WXLL9VEoNBTVRBA0nbDIxOWrFHw93j5qiPBgeZ/FgaPXqmuh2dabXgD07EKIf/envbNe 1lCC9D4hdXuDj+GG5pfqFstFcbNws0EsQCPzE= Message-ID: <4B33F9C7.9040104@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:31:19 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Christmas music online References: <005b01ca84bd$145a7b80$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60912241023w3bfbd200ga4480b3e33989702@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60912241023w3bfbd200ga4480b3e33989702@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-q5wYD.A.bbC.Cn_MLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Jim Goodin said: > Darn Stephen sorry I just missed this, hope you hit record... will > check it out later if you did. Congrats on doing a ustream this was > your first no? Now I may be completely and utterly confused right now, but if you scroll to the bottom of this page: http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=229 you'll find a ustream video under the "Stephen Goodman" headline...;) All the best (and best wishes to you & your loved ones), Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 25 00:09:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EA573BE82; Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Vipre-Scanned: 07F3BBAA0015CB07F3BCF7-TDI Message-ID: <2EA2CA4A185B447DA1607E6067F082E4@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <005b01ca84bd$145a7b80$f9f33747@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60912241023w3bfbd200ga4480b3e33989702@mail.gmail.com> <4B33F9C7.9040104@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B33F9C7.9040104@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Christmas music online Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:09:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:09:33 +0000 (UTC) That was indeed the first vid effort, thanks to months of work on your part.. :) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rainer Straschill" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:31 PM To: Subject: Re: Christmas music online > Jim Goodin said: >> Darn Stephen sorry I just missed this, hope you hit record... will check >> it out later if you did. Congrats on doing a ustream this was your first >> no? > Now I may be completely and utterly confused right now, but if you scroll > to the bottom of this page: http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=229 > you'll find a ustream video under the "Stephen Goodman" headline...;) > > All the best (and best wishes to you & your loved ones), > > Rainer > From revpstptmoses@megamail.pt Fri Dec 25 00:56:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 129998 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:56:04 UTC Received: from sunnyvalelumber.com (sunnyvalelumber.com [173.13.131.12]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037A33BE73; Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sunnyvalelumber.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunnyvalelumber.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBNCgapL002071 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:43:03 -0800 Received: (from apache@localhost) by sunnyvalelumber.com (8.13.8/8.12.8/Submit) id nBNCbInj001873; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:37:18 -0800 Received: from 41.189.4.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ron); by 173.13.131.12 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <62176.41.189.4.44.1261571838.squirrel@41.189.4.44> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: PAYMENT ARREARS From: "Rev. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 25 01:23:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D186B3BE7C; Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B341420.2070705@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:23:44 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <832kUD.A.h9F.nQBNLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:23:51 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Indra. 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Dear beloved,

I greet you in the n= ame of God Almighty. I got your contact through prayers and painstaking eff= orts in my search for a reliable and God fearing person to help me carry ou= t my last wish. My name is Rajkumar Agarwal from India presently; I am in L= ondon where I am receiving medical care. Prior to my ailment, I was a merch= ant and business owner in Malaysia and Dubai, the United Arab Emirates. I w= as also married with five children. My wife and five children died in= a bomb blast in Iraq where they reside four years ago. Before this happene= d, my business and concern for making money was all I lived for. I never re= ally
cared about other values in life. But since the loss of my family, = I have found a new desire to assist helpless families. I have been helping = orphans in orphanage/motherless homes. I have also donated some money for humanitarian needs in some African countries. Only recently, I saw on tele= vision the colossal loss of properties and livelihood of people in Canberra= , Australia through Water flood.

I was moved with great pity and com= passion that I decided to make a contribution on assisting people over ther= e, before I became ill, I kept $20,000,000 Million in a finance company. Pr= esently, I'm in a hospital where I have been undergoing treatment for esoph= ageal cancer. I have since lost my ability to talk and my doctors have told= me that I have only a few weeks to live. It is my last wish to see this mo= ney distributed to the needy and other charity organizations. Because relat= ives and friends have plundered so much of my wealth since my illness, I ca= nnot live with the agony of entrusting this huge responsibility to any of t= hem. Please, I beg you in the name of God to help me collect the deposit fr= om the finance company and distribute it accordingly.
Use your judgment to distribute the money and keep 20% of it to yourself.
=
If you are willing to help, please forward to me your

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May God Bless you as you assist me in c= arrying out my last wish.

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--0-1944758751-1261760216=:11167-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 25 17:05:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C973BE84; Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u21xJUFg2QrLP1M6Em3vZ3w5Qw6CtPcoUKp1I9IXxeQ=; b=QAuJEh1G75kBQ28VFC12msTJrcF/pmXup+JkuQSLQ5UO2T4IetVHi7pdDcUb0rDdWe gDhx8MsaMF2NVCrsPWtbaU4pewjywjVWSF0f9JCZd56TDaGUvND0DIdawmkf1pP/j6Km yBU0Ok8AiLa5a/jA40nIiaJH+nBezVmqPnVqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NFVcHRTvyTmV2w4iK+k/PfpxxkJ7On/C6JDwSmOVbFfccU34g5deCwEpL4ZH8bp2nY LKEFce5vMJfG3DhMEX5gUWGySczDWyxftmRiudBtJw/VZxKEnuJFojJcyn5Nu8WBeviR f+gw/d36KmvDRhLCzSuIQ9mtp0mw3gaAOZeck= Message-ID: <4B34F0F0.6070003@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:05:52 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: For the last time in 2009: The MoinSound Studio Sessions live stream! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:05:49 +0000 (UTC) For the last time in 2009, tomorrow (Saturday 26th) will present another edition of the MoinSound Studio Sessions. I understand that it's only for those hardcore fans to sit in front of the computer and watch a concert, so how about this: There will be an exclustive Christmas gift for everyone showing up and sitting through the session! The Links: Video Stream: http://fwd4.me/0Aa (ustream, registration necessary for chat) Time/Date: http://fwd4 See you there! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 25 17:59:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B5C3BE7E; Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=vhhHQMmfVyGGPXvFZSmfryHglzXhJBP5xNQ9SeqEv5E=; b=X5n33oh/EFD+LoTvkHhJrYYEi0njo1tS+DQwj79lDnSt9VT+T7Wa2/dgm4pJckxmui 55IspNRie/kLCtnYiXuhYIMW2unHG47sEQHgx23eeEv+XjBGy5VbSZ+YStkFePLZYbJy 6WlRQsyakBJqYtoJzW6YE0j5e6Os3xV8Jhgas= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=hjtEIYtU1kHTTTxsUsUxB0IOLfiShZWyNV2sHa836nDyajYp3ICOEofkaWzt83XIvK hxHx3zS9K7QrouDhFKKR7nIBQdbkcBFrRFdrSbd3KhpFCOxn7b9uDvLpC5stPal2k2Gz x/uJKrcZdBxxtBtmcRzeC6FecHV2TSbc8fPSU= Message-Id: <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> From: Christopher Darrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale. Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:59:19 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <22W4i.A.RoC.51PNLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I usually just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship for fellow loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper pays shipping though. EDP with Footswitch: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked out, actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr, few 1/4") on the side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can wire a connection to them from the back of your stuff and only ever have to jack into the side rather then reach in and so you can attach a goose neck mic holder. Two actually, vocals and sax is what I used it for. I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much for what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put the rack mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. And a bunch of RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little mixers, switchers, noise gates etc. You wire them yourself, that's why they're so small. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 25 20:06:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0F293BE78; Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nc9Otrrp6DAA:10 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=DNFxLGi11S0VX0N6uDcA:9 a=thlYMLYhsyVHi0k8t6cA:7 a=dEvZhBNsT593_WfmvFNFLIbv9TIA:4 a=IwXQs4fHPyoA:10 a=d_YeInPPwaIA:10 a=-OFkFD72CxgA:10 Message-Id: <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale. Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:06:02 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Christopher, Sorry to see you selling this stuff off. It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon. People don't speak up and say where they're from often enough. Hope your sale work out for you. I've got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I need already. I might start divesting myself of some gear soon too. If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out. Cheers, Ted On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I usually > just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship for > fellow loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper pays > shipping though. > > EDP with Footswitch: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html > > AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html > > They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked out, > actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr, few 1/4") on the > side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can wire a > connection to them from the back of your stuff and only ever have to > jack into the side rather then reach in and so you can attach a > goose neck mic holder. Two actually, vocals and sax is what I used > it for. > > I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much for > what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're > interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put the > rack mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. And a > bunch of RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little > mixers, switchers, noise gates etc. You wire them yourself, that's > why they're so small. They're also SUER quiet and high quality. > > Everything's in great shape. > > Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Etc.! > > ---Christopher Darrow > 503.327.9329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Dec 25 22:15:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D18D3BE78; Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B35396F.60601@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:15:11 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #664 for December 24, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:15:55 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/091224.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #664 December 24, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Indra. The Featured CD at Midnight was Bhuvaneshvari, CD 4 of the Special Edition Tantric Celebration series. Indra: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#dec PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) JeffreyKoepper Part II Quadranteon (Air Space) Arcane Timelapse Tomorrow's Wasteland (Lawler) Terje Winther Time Electronic Regions (Bajkal) Terje Winther And Again Electronic Regions (Bajkal) Mystified Massive Turning Primal Mystification (Hypnos Secret Sounds) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Brand Golden Cloud Children of Alcyone (Hypnos Secret Sounds) Indra One Billion Light Bhuvanshvari (Eagle) Years Indra Tiamat Bhuvanshvari (Eagle) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Indra. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Tripura Bhairavi on Eagle Records, CD 5 of the Special Edition Tantric Celebration series. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen to WDIY at http://is.gd/37vNQ on-line. 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If you are interested, please send me your full contact details and after that I shall provide you with more details of the business. email:yu48yun@yahoo.com.hk Regards, Yu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 06:46:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D4053BE7C; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 06:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=71lVLw7PDuIK7Ayxxy1BhTgA3aL346SKtCrXMaBvQIM=; b=KLZcDNmBVsq2NA6r8boapIrCcuLsCrUmbq3lN7Oe6jlkCyAOC67En0fOZd4OVgSGhs CI9tZaIIU1QwlFY4qNCMWvNLwXd1txSmil9wjkGIQl87oGNWekUqXvIOPEXy26orRVKa lKSpnS6PdpQ2bnj7GItXY5tXTUUbcMc10rgLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=wcqiVif7mdMPsIl75iVHvZOlbsjL06L3nLldkJxdIinkIywSEbriq1/9a4WlQRwFko 7ll/F9v4Lq7/wu+ynK/Zwi62SJxIMP1zSxrGsYddPcZA5quFoHle3JElKYY45HBkk1EV JWmyBXIIbu24UFsn3DSsUYZvRwP5/+V3ZMHzw= Message-Id: From: Christopher Darrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale. Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:46:11 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <488OyB.A.I4E.4EbNLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 06:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Sweet! Glad to see you write, "yet another." Must mean there are more =20= about. I'm actually a returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 EDPs for =20= over 10 years. Tried to go linear digital the last few years but also =20= kind of took a break from music for the the most part in favor of video. I'll be working on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 with =20 some next-level stuff so let's gave a looping concert in summer. On Dec 25, 2009, at 12:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Christopher, > > Sorry to see you selling this stuff off. > > It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon. > > People don't speak up and say where they're from often enough. > > Hope your sale work out for you. > > I've got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I need =20 > already. > > I might start divesting myself of some gear soon too. > > If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > > On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > >> >> Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I usually =20 >> just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship for =20= >> fellow loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper pays =20 >> shipping though. >> >> EDP with Footswitch: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html >> >> AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html >> >> They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked out, =20= >> actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr, few 1/4") on the =20 >> side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can wire a =20 >> connection to them from the back of your stuff and only ever have =20 >> to jack into the side rather then reach in and so you can attach a =20= >> goose neck mic holder. Two actually, vocals and sax is what I used =20= >> it for. >> >> I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much for =20 >> what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're =20 >> interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put the =20= >> rack mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. And a =20 >> bunch of RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little =20 >> mixers, switchers, noise gates etc. You wire them yourself, that's =20= >> why they're so small. They're also SUER quiet and high quality. >> >> Everything's in great shape. >> >> Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Etc.! >> >> ---Christopher Darrow >> 503.327.9329 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 07:23:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 985783BE80; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B35B9CF.4010902@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:22:55 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: What public is attracted by a Y2K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Matthias asked: "So what do you say? do these numbers mean anything? why has almost none of these guys ever played on a festival? some of them did appear on this mailing list..." I can't speak for others who have put on looping festivals, but the simple answer is that almost all of these names cost a lot of money and the revenue from the big Y2K festival doesn't come close to generating income like that. I was able to bring Arild Andersen a couple of years back (wonderful!) only because an anonymous donor gave me a $5,000 unsolicited gift out of the clear blue sky......an incredibly generous gesture that has not been repeated. It cost me $3,000 to fly him here and back, to put him up and to pay what for him, was a modest performance fee. That's close to twice the revenue of the door for the entire six day festival. Even on the minuscule budget that we have (and thanks to all the loopers who have generously donated even when they haven't been able to attend) this is an AMAZING festival! Ask anyone who came this year. It's stunning that we pull it off on the scale we do, given the lack of real solid support (part of this may also just be down to the fact that Santa Cruz has more musical entertainment per capita than any single city I've ever been to in all of my touring in 15 countries----it's just not a very big place....only 50,000 people and there's a large mountain with a scary road between us and the 3 million people of the SouthBay). ********************* Now, a quick few words in defense of this approach to Live Looping Festivals: The festival (or perhaps, we should call it a live looping convention which might be more accurate if it weren't for the fact that almost everyone who attends also performs) is really wonderful and I hope everyone gets a chance to come to it next year. I'm taking all comers! It will be my last big one and then I'm going to turn it over to the community and see if it's even a sustainable idea from that point onward. Please come! Please witness how sophisticated this community has become in 10 years. The overall level of artistry has really grown. The technology has really grown. The feeling of community has really grown. That's the single reason I've devoted so much of my life to it in the past ten years. Even if other promoters like Sjaak Overgauww and Bernhard Wagner have adopted different philosophies in the way they have put on their own festivals: eschewing a more populist and egalitarian vibe in their booking practices in favor of a more exclusive roster (which I"m entirely 'down' with and supportive of), it has to be noted, historically, that they were initially influenced and inspired by the spirit of these festivals and the ones that they attended. It's all good and the plethora of live looping festivals and mini festivals that have arisen out of this particular one are really wonderful in that each promoter has a different take on the whole thing. Sjaak, Bernhard, Andy, Fabio, Massimo, Per, Mir-0, Luca, Os, Gareth, Paul, Hans and all the many other people who have put on looping festivals have all made really fantastic contributions to our whole community. Each festival has been unique and all have been fantastic (at least all the ones I've had the pleasure of attending). In this particular festival, the newbies and less experienced artists tend to play earlier in the day and the more experienced and accomplished ones tend to play later in the day and evening, so one can adapt a more refined and picky approach to the professionalism and artistry they want to watch or they see or embrace a more supportive, encouraging and egalitarian vibe and come early. There are so many acts that anyone can pick and choose who they want to see. I'm particularly gratified that most of the top acts who attend these festivals are there at noon on Saturday to be supportive of the newbies who play. This support has really meant a great deal to those young or experientially young artists who play and I think many would agree that some of the true delights of the last several festivals have come from adapting such an atypical supportive approach to booking. The highest quality of performances also represent artistry that is as good as any looping artists on the planet (even if they are not 'big bucks' commercially successful artists). Ask anyone who's been recently and they'll tell you this. So, don't let youtube samplers determine your judgment about all of this: Come see it for yourself. Better yet, come play it and see it. You'll be glad you did. yours, Rick Walker ps just as a side note to Rainer's comments about the festival's audiences not growing: the size of the festival's audiences has slightly risen in the past four years (and I've added dates which increases a bit as well), but it should be noted that the number of people who've listened to this festival in real time from around the world increased significantly this year. We had over 700 people who watched the videos and immediately archived videos from Saturday night as a result. Previously, we'd had a few dozen people at the very most listening in. This is not enormous, but it certainly at least adds to the number of people who want to be play the festival each year. I'm curious how those numbers stack up to the recent NinJams that you've organized. Are you experiencing increases in listenership with each successive one you do? Whether or not, do such numbers ever diminish your desire to put these events on? I certainly hope not. 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THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO AVOID BECAUSE THE BOXES WERE PADDED WITH MACHINE. WE TOLD THE COURIER SERVICE THAT THE BOXES CONTAINS PHOTOGRAPHIC AND FILM MATERIALS AND WHEN OPENED WILL LOOSE ITS EFFICACY. WE DID NOT DECLARE MONEY BECAUSE COURIER SERVICE DOES NOT CARRY MONEY. TODAY A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS A CHRISTIAN LIKE ME DISCLOSED TO ME THAT THERE IS A COURIER SERVICE THEY USE TO SEND PACKAGES AND INFORMATION FROM ONE COUNTRY TO ANOTHER, AND THE COURIER SERVICE CAN DELIVER THE PACKAGE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND CANNOT BE INSPECTED BY ANY CUSTOMS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.THE NAME OF THE COURIER SERVICE IS COMET SHIPPING COMPANY [CSC]. I WILL MEET WITH THEM AS SOON AS I HAVE YOUR GO AHEAD ORDER.THE COURIER SERVICE WILL HELP ME SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM.WE HAVE CONCLUDED THAT YOU MUST COMPENSATE US WITH FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR MONEY. TO THIS EFFECT, YOU WILL SEND US A PROMISSORY NOTE FOR FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS ALONG WITH YOUR ADDRESS FOR SENDING THE BOXES BY COURIER. PLEASE MAINTAIN TOPMOST SECRECY AS IT MAY CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IF FOUND OUT THAT WE ARE USING THIS WAY TO HELP YOU, DO NOT EVER TELL ANYBODY ABOUT THIS UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR MONEY. I WANT TO HELP YOU BECAUSE OF THE PERCENTAGE YOU WILL GIVE ME FOR ASSISTING YOU.WHEN YOU CONCLUDE WITH THIS AND YOU SEND OUR PROMISE; WE WILL HELP TO SHIP PART OF YOUR MONEY TO YOU. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO RE-CONFIRM THE UNDERLISTED DETAILS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE FOR ONWARD SHIPPMENT OF YOUR OVER DUE CONTRACT FUND: YOUR FULL NAME: PRIVATE TELEPHONE NUMBER: CHOICE OF ADDRESS {where you wish the consignment delivered}: PRESENT OCCUPATION: ANNUAL INCOME: AGE: FAX(IF ANY): MR.BRICE TAKUS arthur@hot.rr.com. From atm.payment@worldbank.org Sat Dec 26 14:52:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1170 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:52:53 UTC Received: from dedi1105.nur4.host-h.net (dedi1105.nur4.host-h.net [78.46.2.205]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047213BE6F; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 173-30-30-160.client.mchsi.com ([173.30.30.160] helo=User) by dedi1105.nur4.host-h.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1NOXfv-0003Fy-NI; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:32:40 +0200 Reply-To: < headoffice@imf-uk.eu> From: "World Bank Group Ltd" Subject: WE ARE READY TO PAY YOU VIA ATM CARD Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:31:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: X-Authenticated-Sender: catherine@cvlc.co.za X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.95.2/10220/Sat Dec 26 01:58:19 2009) To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Regional Office for Central Europe and Baltics

International Monetary Fund Inline with

37C Zielna, 00-108 Warszawa

International Settlement Dept.

International Monetary Fund (IMF) World Bank Group Ltd Switzerland

Immediate ATM DEBIT Cash Card Payment Notification,

This is to officially inform you that we the International Monetary Fund World Bank Group Ltd Switzerland Reconciliation Schemes have choose to verified your contract/inheritance file and found that why you been unable to receive your payment because you have not fulfilled the obligations given to you in respect of your contract / inheritance payment which this office had the original seal of this agreement with the assigned governmental organization between the involved parties.

Secondly we have been informed that you are still dealing with the none officials in the bank and all your attempts to secure the release of the fund to you have not been successful for this reasons We wish to advice you that such an illegal act like this have to stop if you wish to receive your payment since we have decided to bring a solution to your problem. We have arranged your payment through our swift card payment centers, which is the latest instruction from International Monetary Fund Reconciliation office. The card center will send to you an ATM debit card which you will use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world, so if you like to receive your fund in this way, please let us know by contacting our ATM Center Manager with the requested information as listed below to the follow office via email. claims correspondent office for more directions.

Part two :

This is the official information letter for the Claims Resolution Tribunal of the Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation against Swiss Banks and

other banks Entities.

The Claims Resolution Tribunal is responsible for processing claims relating to assets deposited in Swiss banks by Victims or Targets of Nazi

persecution prior to and during the Second World War. Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation (Swiss Banks)

Dr Al Hilal

Sir Martins jeremy

E-mail: headoffice@imf-uk.eu

office /

                   +44702407-7636

1. Full Name

2. Phone and Fax Number

3. Address Were You Want Them to Send the ATM Card to (P.O Box Not

Acceptable)

4. Your Age and Current Occupation

In the mean time we have been mandated to issue out this payment via this scheme due this fiscal budget year 2009 against the World Financial and

Economic crisis. Also for your information, you have to stop any further communication with any other person (s) or office(s) to avoid any hitches

in receiving your payment Note that because of impostors, we hereby issued you our code of conduct, which is (ATM-3914) so you have to indicate this

code when contacting the card center by using it as your subject.

Now contact our claims correspondent office for more directions.

We Wait For Your Expedite Response.

Yours in Service,

BOARD OF TRUSTEES IMF

International Settlement Dept.

International Monetary Fund World Bank Group Ltd Switzerland
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 17:07:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 589143BE78; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1261847239; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=z6sPQtolF6NUSAk+usc5C2gOx1E=; b=QVGTsxOQVyQDXj4oYDAHU6BdyWJ8DwJGQWsiAVkAFMQ3Vbyuk3zIPtlu/6/8ao6O gue+LkcN2Rl434I1mI501+FHGJuiBll5G/HCIt7kAfcQSoeFpdqRRj5gwnhZ4dOG; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKz27t32L9L2VaTpbIEjQHNoyXj6bX4K+mit7f31mbc= c=1 sm=0 a=XGKsymMizsQJgbPoXXRX0A==:17 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=rehGgS8WnFcrL1jWHuEA:9 a=7nF0J_XZbRwl2AH9kDGlBbe5rtAA:4 a=XGKsymMizsQJgbPoXXRX0A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000f01ca864d$e1ccf570$2df53747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Live Rainer Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:07:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Rainer is on live now! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions peace, j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 18:47:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48CF53BE7C; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dl4agOwI_oAA:10 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=Q0pCEvFFHKDOz7Z0h9UA:9 a=ZlJKKBMCxVVmSUbmqvIA:7 a=EJCvmtu4GJPDem-Ipkt7vUgm6B0A:4 a=IwXQs4fHPyoA:10 a=d_YeInPPwaIA:10 a=-OFkFD72CxgA:10 Message-Id: <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale.) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:47:36 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Christopher, Let's put on our thinking caps and figure out where and how this might =20= be accomplished. Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. Dave Trenkle, in Corvalis (who's been on the list at least as long as =20= I have, since '96). Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. Qua Veda, up in McMinville (posts infrequently but is on the list). David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs anymore - =20= concentrating mostly on visual art. There are some others up in the PDX area - but they so seldom post to =20= the LD list that it is impossible to know if they are even still there. None in my area that I know of. Perhaps a "shout out" to the LD list is in order (note the subject =20 heading change of the message) - let's discuss. Keep in touch. Best of the New Year to you, Ted Killian On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > Sweet! Glad to see you write, "yet another." Must mean there are =20 > more about. > > I'm actually a returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 EDPs =20 > for over 10 years. Tried to go linear digital the last few years but =20= > also kind of took a break from music for the the most part in favor =20= > of video. > > I'll be working on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 with =20 > some next-level stuff so let's gave a looping concert in summer. > > > On Dec 25, 2009, at 12:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> Christopher, >> >> Sorry to see you selling this stuff off. >> >> It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon. >> >> People don't speak up and say where they're from often enough. >> >> Hope your sale work out for you. >> >> I've got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I need =20= >> already. >> >> I might start divesting myself of some gear soon too. >> >> If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ted >> >> >> On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I usually =20 >>> just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship for =20= >>> fellow loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper pays =20 >>> shipping though. >>> >>> EDP with Footswitch: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html >>> >>> AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html >>> >>> They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked out, =20= >>> actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr, few 1/4") on the =20 >>> side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can wire a =20 >>> connection to them from the back of your stuff and only ever have =20= >>> to jack into the side rather then reach in and so you can attach a =20= >>> goose neck mic holder. Two actually, vocals and sax is what I used =20= >>> it for. >>> >>> I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much for =20= >>> what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're =20 >>> interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put the =20= >>> rack mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. And a =20= >>> bunch of RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little =20 >>> mixers, switchers, noise gates etc. You wire them yourself, that's =20= >>> why they're so small. They're also SUER quiet and high quality. >>> >>> Everything's in great shape. >>> >>> Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Etc.! >>> >>> ---Christopher Darrow >>> 503.327.9329 >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 19:30:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F14C93BE77; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1052 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:30:48 UTC Message-ID: <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> From: "Dave Trenkel" To: References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale.) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:13:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-ID: nBQJDAb0029588 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.569, required 6, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.03, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:30:48 +0000 (UTC) I'm still here, mostly lurking. There's a couple of venues I can think of here in Corvallis or in Eugene where we could make something like this happen, and there are a few local players who use looping but are not on this list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd � KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale.) Christopher, Let's put on our thinking caps and figure out where and how this might be accomplished. Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. Dave Trenkle, in Corvalis (who's been on the list at least as long as I have, since '96). Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. Qua Veda, up in McMinville (posts infrequently but is on the list). David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs anymore - concentrating mostly on visual art. There are some others up in the PDX area - but they so seldom post to the LD list that it is impossible to know if they are even still there. None in my area that I know of. Perhaps a "shout out" to the LD list is in order (note the subject heading change of the message) - let's discuss. Keep in touch. Best of the New Year to you, Ted Killian On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > Sweet! Glad to see you write, "yet another." Must mean there are more > about. > > I'm actually a returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 EDPs for > over 10 years. Tried to go linear digital the last few years but also > kind of took a break from music for the the most part in favor of video. > > I'll be working on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 with some > next-level stuff so let's gave a looping concert in summer. > > > On Dec 25, 2009, at 12:06 PM, tEd � KiLLiAn wrote: > >> Christopher, >> >> Sorry to see you selling this stuff off. >> >> It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon. >> >> People don't speak up and say where they're from often enough. >> >> Hope your sale work out for you. >> >> I've got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I need >> already. >> >> I might start divesting myself of some gear soon too. >> >> If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ted >> >> >> On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I usually just >>> sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship for fellow >>> loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper pays shipping >>> though. >>> >>> EDP with Footswitch: >>> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html >>> >>> AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: >>> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html >>> >>> They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked out, >>> actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr, few 1/4") on the side >>> and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can wire a connection >>> to them from the back of your stuff and only ever have to jack into the >>> side rather then reach in and so you can attach a goose neck mic >>> holder. Two actually, vocals and sax is what I used it for. >>> >>> I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much for what >>> you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're interested in >>> that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put the rack mount on so >>> it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. And a bunch of RDL mixers. >>> (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little mixers, switchers, noise gates >>> etc. You wire them yourself, that's why they're so small. They're also >>> SUER quiet and high quality. >>> >>> Everything's in great shape. >>> >>> Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Etc.! >>> >>> ---Christopher Darrow >>> 503.327.9329 >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 20:10:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68AA33BE75; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3743AF1A-0195-4F8C-81E8-4DB1AF5170ED@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:10:15 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:10:20 +0000 (UTC) On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Dave Trenkel wrote: > I'm still here, mostly lurking. There's a couple of venues I can > think of here in Corvallis or in Eugene where we could make > something like this happen, and there are a few local players who > use looping but are not on this list. > > Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. > > Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. > Eh? Who is "Ted Harms"? That ain't me. I may go by many names, ("We are 'Legion' "! :-) ) but "Ted Harms" ain't one of 'em. Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR The Angry Red Planet From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 20:16:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51DA43BE73; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ZUDUjsooAfdlrBt4prYA:9 a=hXgufGRIK5l4Jn2QUEiI44CEolUA:4 Message-Id: <79074A40-AE8A-42F1-A8D8-2CD0BF2EB80E@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3743AF1A-0195-4F8C-81E8-4DB1AF5170ED@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:16:15 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> <3743AF1A-0195-4F8C-81E8-4DB1AF5170ED@ubergadget.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <59kB_C.A.1FC.Y8mNLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, I'm practically a senior citizen these days and my memory plays tricks on me. There is a "Ted Harms" in the PDX area with whom I have shared some communication. I confused it with you. mea culpa. Many apologies. On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Revfever wrote: > On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Dave Trenkel wrote: > >> I'm still here, mostly lurking. There's a couple of venues I can >> think of here in Corvallis or in Eugene where we could make >> something like this happen, and there are a few local players who >> use looping but are not on this list. >> >> Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. >> >> Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. >> > > Eh? Who is "Ted Harms"? That ain't me. I may go by many names, ("We > are 'Legion' "! :-) ) but "Ted Harms" ain't one of 'em. > > Cheers, > Rev. 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ROSEMARY KINSTON IDENTITY ATTACHED CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN CONTRACT/AWARD WINING PAYMENT UNITED From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 20:32:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 240553BE77; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cTOrQnRB01IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=dFXCA5YZA2rBvoSzqEwA:9 a=1u8Jov6Whz-p0vNX4vYA:7 a=ZPXgvPFxJengPUWeJZJbU_S6Sk0A:4 a=IwXQs4fHPyoA:10 a=d_YeInPPwaIA:10 a=-OFkFD72CxgA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale.) X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:32:12 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Yo Dave! Glad you piped in on this. I have long enjoyed 11-Eyes and Minus as they rotate through on iTunes. I certainly don't mind it NOT being in my own backyard. What I do has always bee a little to weird for the locals 'round these =20= parts anyway. I scare away nearly as many as I attract (even with great advance =20 publicity). If some other Oregonians chime in perhaps we can begin to discuss this =20= separately off-list. As interested parties, so far we have Christopher, you, and myself. More may surface as time passes and the idea simmers a bit. I think it could be immense fun. Best, Ted Killian On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Dave Trenkel wrote: > I'm still here, mostly lurking. There's a couple of venues I can =20 > think of here in Corvallis or in Eugene where we could make =20 > something like this happen, and there are a few local players who =20 > use looping but are not on this list. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd =AE KiLLiAn" = > > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:47 AM > Subject: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc =20= > Looper Station Stuff For Sale.) > > > Christopher, > > Let's put on our thinking caps and figure out where and how this might > be accomplished. > > Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. > > Dave Trenkle, in Corvalis (who's been on the list at least as long as > I have, since '96). > > Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. > > Qua Veda, up in McMinville (posts infrequently but is on the list). > > David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs anymore - > concentrating mostly on visual art. > > There are some others up in the PDX area - but they so seldom post to > the LD list that it is impossible to know if they are even still =20 > there. > > None in my area that I know of. > > Perhaps a "shout out" to the LD list is in order (note the subject > heading change of the message) - let's discuss. > > Keep in touch. > > Best of the New Year to you, > > Ted Killian > > On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > >> >> Sweet! Glad to see you write, "yet another." Must mean there are =20 >> more about. >> >> I'm actually a returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 EDPs =20= >> for over 10 years. Tried to go linear digital the last few years =20 >> but also kind of took a break from music for the the most part in =20= >> favor of video. >> >> I'll be working on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 with =20= >> some next-level stuff so let's gave a looping concert in summer. >> >> >> On Dec 25, 2009, at 12:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> >>> Christopher, >>> >>> Sorry to see you selling this stuff off. >>> >>> It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon. >>> >>> People don't speak up and say where they're from often enough. >>> >>> Hope your sale work out for you. >>> >>> I've got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I need =20= >>> already. >>> >>> I might start divesting myself of some gear soon too. >>> >>> If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Ted >>> >>> >>> On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I usually =20= >>>> just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship =20 >>>> for fellow loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper =20 >>>> pays shipping though. >>>> >>>> EDP with Footswitch: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html >>>> >>>> AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html >>>> >>>> They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked =20 >>>> out, actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr, few 1/4") on =20= >>>> the side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can =20 >>>> wire a connection to them from the back of your stuff and only =20 >>>> ever have to jack into the side rather then reach in and so you =20= >>>> can attach a goose neck mic holder. Two actually, vocals and sax =20= >>>> is what I used it for. >>>> >>>> I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much =20 >>>> for what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're =20= >>>> interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put =20 >>>> the rack mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. =20= >>>> And a bunch of RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny =20 >>>> little mixers, switchers, noise gates etc. You wire them =20 >>>> yourself, that's why they're so small. They're also SUER quiet =20 >>>> and high quality. >>>> >>>> Everything's in great shape. >>>> >>>> Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Etc.! >>>> >>>> ---Christopher Darrow >>>> 503.327.9329 >>> >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 20:42:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6911F3BE72; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <79074A40-AE8A-42F1-A8D8-2CD0BF2EB80E@charter.net> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> <3743AF1A-0195-4F8C-81E8-4DB1AF5170ED@ubergadget.com> <79074A40-AE8A-42F1-A8D8-2CD0BF2EB80E@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <56BFCC17-8ED6-4FB4-8119-7321B424857B@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Revfever Subject: Re: OT: OREGON LOOPERS Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:42:22 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:42:27 +0000 (UTC) On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:16 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Sorry, I'm practically a senior citizen these days and my memory =20 > plays tricks on me. > > There is a "Ted Harms" in the PDX area with whom I have shared some =20= > communication. > > I confused it with you. mea culpa. > > Many apologies. Eh...ain't a thang, my friend. I was just curious and also wanted to =20 post a correction. But still, a name like "Ted Harms" is kool! Could almost be right =20 out of a super heroes comic! , Oh yeah! :-) All the best, and cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR The Angry Red Planet > > > > On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Revfever wrote: > >> On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Dave Trenkel wrote: >> >>> I'm still here, mostly lurking. There's a couple of venues I can =20 >>> think of here in Corvallis or in Eugene where we could make =20 >>> something like this happen, and there are a few local players who =20= >>> use looping but are not on this list. >>> >>> Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. >>> >>> Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. >>> >> >> Eh? Who is "Ted Harms"? That ain't me. I may go by many names, =20 >> ("We are 'Legion' "! :-) ) but "Ted Harms" ain't one of 'em. >> >> Cheers, >> Rev. Fever >> Portland, OR >> The Angry Red Planet > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 20:59:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BA3B3BE7C; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=h1ME0rcynlbINE5NLCIA:9 a=WTN97YzK0SWF5bTHkdoA:7 a=C9T74BzJDQ9kan1ZyZU9e-dRGD4A:4 Message-Id: <7E0D4FF6-68EE-4E5E-980B-06D94B63C37E@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <56BFCC17-8ED6-4FB4-8119-7321B424857B@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: OREGON LOOPERS X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:58:59 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> <3743AF1A-0195-4F8C-81E8-4DB1AF5170ED@ubergadget.com> <79074A40-AE8A-42F1-A8D8-2CD0BF2EB80E@charter.net> <56BFCC17-8ED6-4FB4-8119-7321B424857B@ubergadget.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0iE-OD.A.mTD.hknNLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Rev, I just checked my ancient email files and Ted Harms isn't even in PDX. Blast! It's so embarrassing to be going senile in public (LOL). Well, should you find yourself the least bit interested in some sort =20 of Oregon Looper soiree, get-together gig (festival?) whatever . . . =20 stay tuned and in touch. Hopefully, someone who is not slowly losing his mind will be =20 organizing it (LOL). Best, Ted Killian On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Revfever wrote: > > On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:16 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> Sorry, I'm practically a senior citizen these days and my memory =20 >> plays tricks on me. >> >> There is a "Ted Harms" in the PDX area with whom I have shared some =20= >> communication. >> >> I confused it with you. mea culpa. >> >> Many apologies. > > Eh...ain't a thang, my friend. I was just curious and also wanted to =20= > post a correction. > But still, a name like "Ted Harms" is kool! Could almost be right =20= > out of a super heroes comic! , Oh yeah! :-) > > All the best, and cheers, > Rev. Fever > Portland, OR > The Angry Red Planet From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 21:17:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E85153BE77; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:17:05 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: OT: OREGON LOOPERS In-Reply-To: <7E0D4FF6-68EE-4E5E-980B-06D94B63C37E@charter.net> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> <3743AF1A-0195-4F8C-81E8-4DB1AF5170ED@ubergadget.com> <79074A40-AE8A-42F1-A8D8-2CD0BF2EB80E@charter.net> <56BFCC17-8ED6-4FB4-8119-7321B424857B@ubergadget.com> <7E0D4FF6-68EE-4E5E-980B-06D94B63C37E@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091226211715.870382481D@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Ted Harms is a sometimes looper, improv bass player up here in Ontario, Canada. He is on the loopers list. I play with him occasionally, a very fine and imaginative player. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada At 03:58 PM 12/26/2009, you wrote: >Rev, > >I just checked my ancient email files and Ted Harms isn't even in PDX. > >Blast! It's so embarrassing to be going senile in public (LOL). > >Well, should you find yourself the least bit interested in some sort >of Oregon Looper soiree, get-together gig (festival?) whatever . . . >stay tuned and in touch. > >Hopefully, someone who is not slowly losing his mind will be >organizing it (LOL). > >Best, > >Ted Killian > >On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Revfever wrote: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 21:24:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FE313BE77; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Sc_cvCFyAAAA:8 a=PjkcHGYalGmQo9q3IWQA:9 a=Xd77QuRjviH1yZbIw_AA:7 a=JTg625xDg-onSqbNT4qvab0MWxkA:4 Message-Id: <103221DE-BF32-446E-9DCE-8B30C758B031@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20091226211715.870382481D@ns3.tnt21.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: OREGON LOOPERS Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:24:33 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <3D451325B60747FAB6397E58BB014FF3@DTT60> <3743AF1A-0195-4F8C-81E8-4DB1AF5170ED@ubergadget.com> <79074A40-AE8A-42F1-A8D8-2CD0BF2EB80E@charter.net> <56BFCC17-8ED6-4FB4-8119-7321B424857B@ubergadget.com> <7E0D4FF6-68EE-4E5E-980B-06D94B63C37E@charter.net> <20091226211715.870382481D@ns3.tnt21.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Paul. When I found my old e-mail exchanges with him I saw where he was actually from . . . and remembered. I just hadn't wanted to share EXACTLY how far off my recollection of things had gotten in my last missive. Sadly, I was still trying to protect some semblance of self-esteem in this forum. Thanks for keeping me honest (LOL). C'est la vie. Ted Killian On Dec 26, 2009, at 1:17 PM, paul wrote: > Ted Harms is a sometimes looper, improv bass player up here in > Ontario, Canada. He is on the loopers list. I play with him > occasionally, a very fine and imaginative player. > > Paul Haslem > www.dulcify.ca > Ontario, Canada > > > > > At 03:58 PM 12/26/2009, you wrote: >> Rev, >> >> I just checked my ancient email files and Ted Harms isn't even in >> PDX. >> >> Blast! It's so embarrassing to be going senile in public (LOL). >> >> Well, should you find yourself the least bit interested in some sort >> of Oregon Looper soiree, get-together gig (festival?) whatever . . . >> stay tuned and in touch. >> >> Hopefully, someone who is not slowly losing his mind will be >> organizing it (LOL). >> >> Best, >> >> Ted Killian >> >> On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Revfever wrote: > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Dec 26 22:08:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C07B3BE78; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:08:47 UTC Reply-To: From: "David Saganey" To: Subject: For Sale: Lexicon Jamman (Mint!) $350 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:00:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA864C.F29D9310" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acp8EL3SF7JCwEGxQWyTqcNsgn6PeQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:08:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA864C.F29D9310 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0001_01CA864C.F29EA480" ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01CA864C.F29EA480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This MINT condition Lexicon Jamman has been sitting in a rack (unused) for over a decade! It has the 32 second memory upgrade, and Bob Sellon's Special software installed. Included: (1) Power Transformer (2) Original Footswitches (2) Footswitch Cables Manuals are available on the web. $350 Firm ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01CA864C.F29EA480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_94bdc67b-8a26-4f6f-9c44-5f7d92861e03_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.162.195] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale.) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:41:19 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2009 01:41:19.0725 (UTC) FILETIME=[B029A9D0:01CA8695] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:41:21 +0000 (UTC) --_94bdc67b-8a26-4f6f-9c44-5f7d92861e03_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm here in the Portland area --I tend to be sort of quiet on the list ( ea= rs open=2C mouth shut) --My current=2C long running gig is less looping and= a whole lot of Middle Eastern/European/N African/Psychedelic jazzy stuff t= hat belly dancers like. But I have thrown in looping to good effect.=20 I think a looping tour of Oregonians would rock. I have connections to a fe= w venues here in Portland and Rev Fever knows a few more. What are we waiting for? J.D.Devros deafrose58 > From: tedkillian@charter.net > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter=2C Misc Lo= oper Station Stuff For Sale.) > Date: Sat=2C 26 Dec 2009 10:47:36 -0800 >=20 > Christopher=2C >=20 > Let's put on our thinking caps and figure out where and how this might =20 > be accomplished. >=20 > Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. >=20 > Dave Trenkle=2C in Corvalis (who's been on the list at least as long as = =20 > I have=2C since '96). >=20 > Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. >=20 > Qua Veda=2C up in McMinville (posts infrequently but is on the list). >=20 > David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs anymore - =20 > concentrating mostly on visual art. >=20 > There are some others up in the PDX area - but they so seldom post to =20 > the LD list that it is impossible to know if they are even still there. >=20 > None in my area that I know of. >=20 > Perhaps a "shout out" to the LD list is in order (note the subject =20 > heading change of the message) - let's discuss. >=20 > Keep in touch. >=20 > Best of the New Year to you=2C >=20 > Ted Killian >=20 > On Dec 25=2C 2009=2C at 10:46 PM=2C Christopher Darrow wrote: >=20 > > > > Sweet! Glad to see you write=2C "yet another." Must mean there are =20 > > more about. > > > > I'm actually a returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 EDPs =20 > > for over 10 years. Tried to go linear digital the last few years but =20 > > also kind of took a break from music for the the most part in favor =20 > > of video. > > > > I'll be working on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 with =20 > > some next-level stuff so let's gave a looping concert in summer. > > > > > > On Dec 25=2C 2009=2C at 12:06 PM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > > >> Christopher=2C > >> > >> Sorry to see you selling this stuff off. > >> > >> It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon. > >> > >> People don't speak up and say where they're from often enough. > >> > >> Hope your sale work out for you. > >> > >> I've got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I need =20 > >> already. > >> > >> I might start divesting myself of some gear soon too. > >> > >> If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out. > >> > >> Cheers=2C > >> > >> Ted > >> > >> > >> On Dec 25=2C 2009=2C at 9:59 AM=2C Christopher Darrow wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again=2C I usually =20 > >>> just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship for =20 > >>> fellow loopers=2C since this is my looping station. Shipper pays =20 > >>> shipping though. > >>> > >>> EDP with Footswitch: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/152425243= 8.html > >>> > >>> AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: http://portland.craig= slist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html > >>> > >>> They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked out=2C = =20 > >>> actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr=2C few 1/4") on the =20 > >>> side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can wire a =20 > >>> connection to them from the back of your stuff and only ever have =20 > >>> to jack into the side rather then reach in and so you can attach a =20 > >>> goose neck mic holder. Two actually=2C vocals and sax is what I used = =20 > >>> it for. > >>> > >>> I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much for =20 > >>> what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're =20 > >>> interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put the =20 > >>> rack mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. And a =20 > >>> bunch of RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little =20 > >>> mixers=2C switchers=2C noise gates etc. You wire them yourself=2C tha= t's =20 > >>> why they're so small. They're also SUER quiet and high quality. > >>> > >>> Everything's in great shape. > >>> > >>> Merry Christmas=2C Happy Holidays=2C Etc.! > >>> > >>> ---Christopher Darrow > >>> 503.327.9329 > >> > > >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/= --_94bdc67b-8a26-4f6f-9c44-5f7d92861e03_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm here in the Portland area --I tend to be sort of quiet on the list ( ea= rs open=2C mouth shut) --My current=2C long running gig is less looping and= a whole lot of Middle Eastern/European/N African/Psychedelic jazzy stuff t= hat belly dancers like. But I have thrown in looping to good effect.
I = think a looping tour of Oregonians would rock. I have connections to a few = venues here in Portland and Rev Fever knows a few more.
What are we wait= ing for?
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

>=3B From: tedkillian@charter= .net
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: O= REGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter=2C Misc Looper Station= Stuff For Sale.)
>=3B Date: Sat=2C 26 Dec 2009 10:47:36 -0800
>= =3B
>=3B Christopher=2C
>=3B
>=3B Let's put on our thinkin= g caps and figure out where and how this might
>=3B be accomplished.=
>=3B
>=3B Yes there are a few other loopers in the State.
&g= t=3B
>=3B Dave Trenkle=2C in Corvalis (who's been on the list at leas= t as long as
>=3B I have=2C since '96).
>=3B
>=3B Rev Fev= er (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe.
>=3B
&= gt=3B Qua Veda=2C up in McMinville (posts infrequently but is on the list).=
>=3B
>=3B David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he p= erforms anymore -
>=3B concentrating mostly on visual art.
>=3B=
>=3B There are some others up in the PDX area - but they so seldom p= ost to
>=3B the LD list that it is impossible to know if they are ev= en still there.
>=3B
>=3B None in my area that I know of.
>= =3B
>=3B Perhaps a "shout out" to the LD list is in order (note the s= ubject
>=3B heading change of the message) - let's discuss.
>= =3B
>=3B Keep in touch.
>=3B
>=3B Best of the New Year to = you=2C
>=3B
>=3B Ted Killian
>=3B
>=3B On Dec 25=2C 2= 009=2C at 10:46 PM=2C Christopher Darrow wrote:
>=3B
>=3B >=3B=
>=3B >=3B Sweet! Glad to see you write=2C "yet another." Must mean = there are
>=3B >=3B more about.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B = I'm actually a returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 EDPs
>= =3B >=3B for over 10 years. Tried to go linear digital the last few years= but
>=3B >=3B also kind of took a break from music for the the mo= st part in favor
>=3B >=3B of video.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B I'll be working on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 with >=3B >=3B some next-level stuff so let's gave a looping concert in su= mmer.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On Dec 25=2C 2009= =2C at 12:06 PM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B= >=3B Christopher=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Sorry t= o see you selling this stuff off.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon.
>=3B >=3B= >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B People don't speak up and say where they're f= rom often enough.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Hope your s= ale work out for you.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I've go= t all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I need
>=3B >= =3B>=3B already.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I might st= art divesting myself of some gear soon too.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>= =3B >=3B>=3B If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out.
>= =3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Cheers=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Ted
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B
&= gt=3B >=3B>=3B On Dec 25=2C 2009=2C at 9:59 AM=2C Christopher Darrow wr= ote:
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B>=3B Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again=2C I usual= ly
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I= 'd be willing to ship for
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B fellow loopers=2C = since this is my looping station. Shipper pays
>=3B >=3B>=3B>= =3B shipping though.
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>= =3B EDP with Footswitch: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.= html
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B AXON Guitar = to Midi converter and sound source: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/= 1524251329.html
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B T= hey're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked out=2C
&g= t=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr=2C f= ew 1/4") on the
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B side and 2 mike holder screw= bases on the top so you can wire a
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B connecti= on to them from the back of your stuff and only ever have
>=3B >= =3B>=3B>=3B to jack into the side rather then reach in and so you can a= ttach a
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B goose neck mic holder. Two actually= =2C vocals and sax is what I used
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B it for.>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B I have no idea what= I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much for
>=3B >=3B>=3B>= =3B what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're
>=3B = >=3B>=3B>=3B interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand= I put the
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B rack mount on so it faces up at a= n angle. And footswitches. And a
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B bunch of RD= L mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little
>=3B >=3B>=3B= >=3B mixers=2C switchers=2C noise gates etc. You wire them yourself=2C th= at's
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B why they're so small. They're also SUER= quiet and high quality.
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>= =3B>=3B Everything's in great shape.
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>= =3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Merry Christmas=2C Happy Holidays=2C Etc.!
>=3B= >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B ---Christopher Darrow
&= gt=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B 503.327.9329
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B

Hotmail: Trusted email with Micro= soft=92s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. = --_94bdc67b-8a26-4f6f-9c44-5f7d92861e03_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 27 02:02:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 485483BE79; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261879329; bh=JSLPntZ+bBLQtLc+Q3sXhcFxZV6KBdLL0p4rUwJ82Nw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UKyPUWr7hK+93O+YW84of2YqBrI2nF+Tv6T6GO8A3jePPDBmAWy8/QPfAbwK4e1CRLKlICuI6JuiUTA/yGS9XBwmYark4EHWNqn9hTm2Dv1xx1mc84HiD22taL2RB1Cb1k8ABNly70ZR7m1WKNQ5gkfKukpS+S09r21jMdQRlMw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rF9g/G58Vb0pmvnzM/SwoMUqixp+zezpSrmXRxQh8QV/Ye6nCm6lY4FBKUy6VuiszgnhBcGfPpTZiME1y9X4RitP/Ayl/b75ee0Yae+hjLTGSGZM4QJAzzrkthNOIF7xdJXR4/xudSlf9Zp1jiRj9brS4+1YnyscSH3mj8ic2FU=; Message-ID: <290487.17202.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pigYHwcVM1n2jMFgghnP4cbVgpHwvETyiDGy_WqoFt7neitG9CFszJE.Yg183U7Jd0bJjS_svdzddnGceGvLupPHLOX5wfpY9FXyqz9tnyn6YXNvBY5IM_6YGgL.9ZJBXBFZNpEaNmEqHJghq29axvC_fcp61YZRzm_eF37XAHSC9jX4EiIUKhyLKU0qX6aOK9Tl_sMV1YtayuQoZ.E1l0ZePLkmK09hdEeQbYgbKRQS5niMwuGLfBoKskJdF4CBTmxmfzpYiKEZyAaaDlPUwXIRGrFAhPkChX4GQ1uMfENTLDfSOHHxIIorUbpAf8jTb0dgrPuiTvs6seEz3dThmws32imu9fLL0fi79A89UnN1voLF3K400YYB4vTTCCvF8Ww3Kcp4Fo0e8YTqdwhSSRNE4JjbqaO5s9mcWl8Jdg3vyPaaGQrfMkzDRKSwl3N.ubXl_wkX62L5y3YKb7fbZpof.FP07xA92.8edh6aaS97hYjIKYIpeSQk9HFt4YjY00MrFXqnwMt95tEWM0XSqrcWl4i1rzv2DJwTVQGSadcH_aGsl9RGN88EE50Xi6kQLA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:02:08 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Ontario Loopers? (was: OREGON LOOPERS) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <103221DE-BF32-446E-9DCE-8B30C758B031@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-354223049-1261879328=:17202" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:02:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-354223049-1261879328=:17202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, Ted Harms is alive and well - he is me!=A0 Apologies for my delaying i= n replying but I've been loading up on tofurkey... Sorry, Ted K, but I've never been to Oregon though it sounds nice.=A0 Close= st I've been was 40+ years ago when I was born in Seattle.=A0 Our contact w= as a little while back when I bought a Boss RPS-10 half-rack unit from you. Many thanks for the kind words, Paul!=A0 (BTW, basement problems have been = addressed - I'll let you know how it turned out!) So, are Paul and I the only Ontario loopers?=A0 I gather Zoe is originally = from Guelph... Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sat, 12/26/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn Subject: Re: OT: OREGON LOOPERS To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 1:24 PM Thanks Paul. When I found my old e-mail exchanges with him I saw where he was actually f= rom . . . and remembered. I just hadn't wanted to share EXACTLY how far off my recollection of things= had gotten in my last missive. Sadly, I was still trying to protect some semblance of self-esteem in this = forum. Thanks for keeping me honest (LOL). C'est la vie. Ted Killian =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AMake your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet= Explorer=AE 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloa= ds.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ --0-354223049-1261879328=:17202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, Ted Harms is alive and well - he is = me! Apologies for my delaying in replying but I've been loading up on= tofurkey...

Sorry, Ted K, but I've never been to Oregon though it s= ounds nice. Closest I've been was 40+ years ago when I was born in Se= attle. Our contact was a little while back when I bought a Boss RPS-1= 0 half-rack unit from you.

Many thanks for the kind words, Paul!&nbs= p; (BTW, basement problems have been addressed - I'll let you know how it t= urned out!)

So, are Paul and I the only Ontario loopers? I gat= her Zoe is originally from Guelph...

Ted H.
Enemies are good = for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Sat, 12/26/09, tEd =AE = KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
Subject:= Re: OT: OREGON LOOPERS
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Recei= ved: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 1:24 PM

T= hanks Paul.

When I found my old e-mail exchanges with him I saw wher= e he was actually from . . . and remembered.

I just hadn't wanted to= share EXACTLY how far off my recollection of things had gotten in my last = missive.

Sadly, I was still trying to protect some semblance of self= -esteem in this forum.

Thanks for keeping me honest (LOL).

C'= est la vie.

Ted Killian

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Download it now! =0A --0-354223049-1261879328=:17202-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 27 02:12:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 906D73BE78; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BpbcIvnW5DkA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=rir899hyhN3LKrL0Jq8A:9 a=i7zoKiaXRvyKgDxeNM0A:7 a=IItdyX3xUETM1fUkCG6xvZMie2MA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 Message-Id: <01867D76-CC3A-4778-9FCF-F0A886E97AC0@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <290487.17202.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Ontario Loopers? (was: OREGON LOOPERS) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:12:25 -0800 References: <290487.17202.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Ted, Yep, I know now . . . I was just having a "senior moment". At least I had the direction right . . . North (in a general sort of =20= fashion). LOL. Please forgive the confusion. Obviously I'm not one to be trusted with anything requiring long-term =20= memory these days. Thanks for making you "alive" status known. Seems like I remember selling you something (Boss RPS-10 or something). I can't remember that either. Oh well. I hope all is well. Cheers, Ted Killian (At least I can remember my own name). On Dec 26, 2009, at 6:02 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > > Yes, Ted Harms is alive and well - he is me! Apologies for my =20 > delaying in replying but I've been loading up on tofurkey... > > Sorry, Ted K, but I've never been to Oregon though it sounds nice. =20= > Closest I've been was 40+ years ago when I was born in Seattle. Our =20= > contact was a little while back when I bought a Boss RPS-10 half-=20 > rack unit from you. > > Many thanks for the kind words, Paul! (BTW, basement problems have =20= > been addressed - I'll let you know how it turned out!) > > So, are Paul and I the only Ontario loopers? I gather Zoe is =20 > originally from Guelph... > > > Ted H. > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > Subject: Re: OT: OREGON LOOPERS > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 1:24 PM > > Thanks Paul. > > When I found my old e-mail exchanges with him I saw where he was =20 > actually from . . . and remembered. > > I just hadn't wanted to share EXACTLY how far off my recollection of =20= > things had gotten in my last missive. > > Sadly, I was still trying to protect some semblance of self-esteem =20 > in this forum. > > Thanks for keeping me honest (LOL). > > C'est la vie. > > Ted Killian > > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark =20= > your favourite sites. Download it now! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 27 02:22:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 190113BE79; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=U9OQpdHBAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=VEhBDtvJyoxFrxM-VR0A:9 a=vNLjOfmQJeiOXz9M-X0A:7 a=gn4xysGGe5V1lerDnSSMmi8OhVEA:4 a=IwXQs4fHPyoA:10 a=d_YeInPPwaIA:10 a=-OFkFD72CxgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=cUBdl-qfu3MA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 Message-Id: From: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:21:53 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Jeremy, So far as I know Rev Fever wasn't expressing any particular interest =20 in this thing (event) so much as correcting my mistaken memory. If you know otherwise he's certainly welcome. So far respondents have been: Christopher Darrow (who made the suggestion in the first place) = Myself, Ted Killian (weird guitarist stuck down here in nowheresville =20= - also known as Medford) Dave Trenkle (of Corvalis, who plays in a great jazz/funk band called =20= 11-eyes) Yourself (in Portland) And maybe Rev Fever (also in Portland) if he's interested. At some point we should take this off the list probably. Do we have enough interested parties yet? Discuss. Ted On Dec 26, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Jeremy devros wrote: > I'm here in the Portland area --I tend to be sort of quiet on the =20 > list ( ears open, mouth shut) --My current, long running gig is less =20= > looping and a whole lot of Middle Eastern/European/N African/=20 > Psychedelic jazzy stuff that belly dancers like. But I have thrown =20 > in looping to good effect. > I think a looping tour of Oregonians would rock. I have connections =20= > to a few venues here in Portland and Rev Fever knows a few more. > What are we waiting for? > J.D.Devros > deafrose58 > > > From: tedkillian@charter.net > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, =20 > Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale.) > > Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:47:36 -0800 > > > > Christopher, > > > > Let's put on our thinking caps and figure out where and how this =20 > might > > be accomplished. > > > > Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. > > > > Dave Trenkle, in Corvalis (who's been on the list at least as long =20= > as > > I have, since '96). > > > > Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. > > > > Qua Veda, up in McMinville (posts infrequently but is on the list). > > > > David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs =20 > anymore - > > concentrating mostly on visual art. > > > > There are some others up in the PDX area - but they so seldom post =20= > to > > the LD list that it is impossible to know if they are even still =20 > there. > > > > None in my area that I know of. > > > > Perhaps a "shout out" to the LD list is in order (note the subject > > heading change of the message) - let's discuss. > > > > Keep in touch. > > > > Best of the New Year to you, > > > > Ted Killian > > > > On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > > > > > > > Sweet! Glad to see you write, "yet another." Must mean there are > > > more about. > > > > > > I'm actually a returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 EDPs > > > for over 10 years. Tried to go linear digital the last few years =20= > but > > > also kind of took a break from music for the the most part in =20 > favor > > > of video. > > > > > > I'll be working on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 with > > > some next-level stuff so let's gave a looping concert in summer. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 25, 2009, at 12:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > > > > >> Christopher, > > >> > > >> Sorry to see you selling this stuff off. > > >> > > >> It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon. > > >> > > >> People don't speak up and say where they're from often enough. > > >> > > >> Hope your sale work out for you. > > >> > > >> I've got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I =20 > need > > >> already. > > >> > > >> I might start divesting myself of some gear soon too. > > >> > > >> If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> > > >> Ted > > >> > > >> > > >> On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I usually > > >>> just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship =20= > for > > >>> fellow loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper pays > > >>> shipping though. > > >>> > > >>> EDP with Footswitch: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html > > >>> > > >>> AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html > > >>> > > >>> They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked =20= > out, > > >>> actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr, few 1/4") on the > > >>> side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can wire a > > >>> connection to them from the back of your stuff and only ever =20 > have > > >>> to jack into the side rather then reach in and so you can =20 > attach a > > >>> goose neck mic holder. Two actually, vocals and sax is what I =20= > used > > >>> it for. > > >>> > > >>> I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much =20= > for > > >>> what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're > > >>> interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put =20= > the > > >>> rack mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. =20 > And a > > >>> bunch of RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little > > >>> mixers, switchers, noise gates etc. You wire them yourself, =20 > that's > > >>> why they're so small. They're also SUER quiet and high quality. > > >>> > > >>> Everything's in great shape. > > >>> > > >>> Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Etc.! > > >>> > > >>> ---Christopher Darrow > > >>> 503.327.9329 > > >> > > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. =20= > Sign up now. 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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I was wondering if anyone from the list has tried the Rang III yet. I've been trying to find some reviews or Youtube video's, but no luck Anyone heard anything? Andre Donawa http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 27 23:05:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C4043BE77; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10-180063185 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:05:04 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <-dZKoD.A.huE.kg-NLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:05:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10-180063185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let me know if you need any help with Portland. I used to live there =20= (90-03). I know some good folks there who might be able to help. =20 Actually know a guy in Eugene who could be a big help too. richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com blog: www.goodnaturefarms.com On Dec 26, 2009, at 6:21 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Jeremy, > > So far as I know Rev Fever wasn't expressing any particular interest =20= > in this thing (event) so much as correcting my mistaken memory. > > If you know otherwise he's certainly welcome. > > So far respondents have been: > > Christopher Darrow (who made the suggestion in the first place) = > > > Myself, Ted Killian (weird guitarist stuck down here in =20 > nowheresville - also known as Medford) > > Dave Trenkle (of Corvalis, who plays in a great jazz/funk band =20 > called 11-eyes) > > Yourself (in Portland) > > And maybe Rev Fever (also in Portland) if he's interested. > > At some point we should take this off the list probably. > > Do we have enough interested parties yet? > > Discuss. > > Ted > > On Dec 26, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Jeremy devros wrote: > >> I'm here in the Portland area --I tend to be sort of quiet on the =20 >> list ( ears open, mouth shut) --My current, long running gig is =20 >> less looping and a whole lot of Middle Eastern/European/N African/=20 >> Psychedelic jazzy stuff that belly dancers like. But I have thrown =20= >> in looping to good effect. >> I think a looping tour of Oregonians would rock. I have connections =20= >> to a few venues here in Portland and Rev Fever knows a few more. >> What are we waiting for? >> J.D.Devros >> deafrose58 >> >> > From: tedkillian@charter.net >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > Subject: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, =20 >> Misc Looper Station Stuff For Sale.) >> > Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:47:36 -0800 >> > >> > Christopher, >> > >> > Let's put on our thinking caps and figure out where and how this =20= >> might >> > be accomplished. >> > >> > Yes there are a few other loopers in the State. >> > >> > Dave Trenkle, in Corvalis (who's been on the list at least as =20 >> long as >> > I have, since '96). >> > >> > Rev Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I believe. >> > >> > Qua Veda, up in McMinville (posts infrequently but is on the list). >> > >> > David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs =20 >> anymore - >> > concentrating mostly on visual art. >> > >> > There are some others up in the PDX area - but they so seldom =20 >> post to >> > the LD list that it is impossible to know if they are even still =20= >> there. >> > >> > None in my area that I know of. >> > >> > Perhaps a "shout out" to the LD list is in order (note the subject >> > heading change of the message) - let's discuss. >> > >> > Keep in touch. >> > >> > Best of the New Year to you, >> > >> > Ted Killian >> > >> > On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Sweet! Glad to see you write, "yet another." Must mean there are >> > > more about. >> > > >> > > I'm actually a returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 EDPs >> > > for over 10 years. Tried to go linear digital the last few =20 >> years but >> > > also kind of took a break from music for the the most part in =20 >> favor >> > > of video. >> > > >> > > I'll be working on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 =20 >> with >> > > some next-level stuff so let's gave a looping concert in summer. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Dec 25, 2009, at 12:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> > > >> > >> Christopher, >> > >> >> > >> Sorry to see you selling this stuff off. >> > >> >> > >> It's a surprise to find yet another looper in Oregon. >> > >> >> > >> People don't speak up and say where they're from often enough. >> > >> >> > >> Hope your sale work out for you. >> > >> >> > >> I've got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I =20= >> need >> > >> already. >> > >> >> > >> I might start divesting myself of some gear soon too. >> > >> >> > >> If you ever get down Medford way give a shout out. >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> >> > >> Ted >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >>> Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I =20 >> usually >> > >>> just sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to =20 >> ship for >> > >>> fellow loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper pays >> > >>> shipping though. >> > >>> >> > >>> EDP with Footswitch: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html >> > >>> >> > >>> AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound source: = http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html >> > >>> >> > >>> They're both in a 2 space rack mount that is a little tricked =20= >> out, >> > >>> actually... I put mounted jack plates (few xlr, few 1/4") on =20= >> the >> > >>> side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can wire a >> > >>> connection to them from the back of your stuff and only ever =20= >> have >> > >>> to jack into the side rather then reach in and so you can =20 >> attach a >> > >>> goose neck mic holder. Two actually, vocals and sax is what I =20= >> used >> > >>> it for. >> > >>> >> > >>> I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much =20= >> for >> > >>> what you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if you're >> > >>> interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I =20 >> put the >> > >>> rack mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. =20 >> And a >> > >>> bunch of RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny little >> > >>> mixers, switchers, noise gates etc. You wire them yourself, =20 >> that's >> > >>> why they're so small. They're also SUER quiet and high quality. >> > >>> >> > >>> Everything's in great shape. >> > >>> >> > >>> Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Etc.! >> > >>> >> > >>> ---Christopher Darrow >> > >>> 503.327.9329 >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. =20= >> Sign up now. > --Apple-Mail-10-180063185 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let me know if you need any = help with Portland. I used to live there (90-03). I know = some good folks there who might be able to help. Actually know a = guy in Eugene who could be a big help too.

richard sales
www.glasswing.com
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www.hayleysales.com
blog:
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On Dec 26, = 2009, at 6:21 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

Jeremy,

So far as I know Rev Fever wasn't = expressing any particular interest in this thing (event) so much as = correcting my mistaken memory.

If you know otherwise he's = certainly welcome.

So far respondents have = been:

Christopher Darrow (who made the suggestion in the first = place) <thedarrow@gmail.com>

Mys= elf, Ted Killian (weird guitarist stuck down here in nowheresville - = also known as Medford) <tedkillian@charter.net>
<= br>Dave Trenkle (of Corvalis, who plays in a great jazz/funk band called = 11-eyes) <improv@peak.org>

Yourself = (in Portland) <deafrose58@hotmail.com>
<= br>And maybe Rev Fever (also in Portland) if he's interested.

At = some point we should take this off the list probably.

Do we have = enough interested parties yet?

Discuss.

Ted

On Dec = 26, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Jeremy devros wrote:

I'm here in the Portland area --I tend to be sort of quiet = on the list ( ears open, mouth shut) --My current, long running gig is = less looping and a whole lot of Middle Eastern/European/N = African/Psychedelic jazzy stuff that belly dancers like. But I have = thrown in looping to good effect.
I think a looping tour of Oregonians would rock. I have = connections to a few venues here in Portland and Rev Fever knows a few = more.
What are we waiting = for?
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

> From: tedkillian@charter.net
> To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> = Subject: OREGON LOOPERS (Was: EDP and Guitar to Midi Converter, Misc = Looper Station Stuff For Sale.)
> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:47:36 = -0800
>
> = Christopher,
>
> Let's = put on our thinking caps and figure out where and how this = might
> be = accomplished.
>
> Yes = there are a few other loopers in the State.
>
> Dave = Trenkle, in Corvalis (who's been on the list at least as long = as
> I have, since = '96).
>
> Rev = Fever (aka Ted Harms) is in Portland area somewhere I = believe.
>
> Qua = Veda, up in McMinville (posts infrequently but is on the = list).
>
> David = Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs anymore = -
> concentrating mostly on = visual art.
>
> There = are some others up in the PDX area - but they so seldom post = to
> the LD list that it is = impossible to know if they are even still = there.
>
> None = in my area that I know of.
>
> = Perhaps a "shout out" to the LD list is in order (note the = subject
> heading change of = the message) - let's discuss.
>
> Keep = in touch.
>
> Best = of the New Year to you,
>
> Ted = Killian
>
> On Dec = 25, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Christopher Darrow = wrote:
>
> = >
> > Sweet! Glad to = see you write, "yet another." Must mean there = are
> > more = about.
> = >
> > I'm actually a = returning looper. Looped with between 2 and 3 = EDPs
> > for over 10 = years. Tried to go linear digital the last few years = but
> > also kind of = took a break from music for the the most part in = favor
> > of = video.
> = >
> > I'll be working = on getting my skills back 1st quarter of 2010 = with
> > some next-level = stuff so let's gave a looping concert in = summer.
> = >
> = >
> > On Dec 25, = 2009, at 12:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:
> >
> = >> Christopher,
> = >>
> >> Sorry = to see you selling this stuff off.
> >>
>= >> It's a surprise to find yet another looper in = Oregon.
> = >>
> >> People = don't speak up and say where they're from often = enough.
> = >>
> >> Hope = your sale work out for you.
>= >>
> >> I've = got all the EDPs (2) and guitar-to-midi stuff (Roland) I = need
> >> = already.
> = >>
> >> I might = start divesting myself of some gear soon = too.
> = >>
> >> If you = ever get down Medford way give a shout out.
> >>
>= >> Cheers,
> = >>
> >> = Ted
> = >>
> = >>
> >> On Dec = 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow = wrote:
> = >>
> = >>>
> >>> = Hi. I still have these so I thought I'd repost. Again, I = usually
> >>> just = sell locally (Portland Oregon) but I'd be willing to ship = for
> >>> fellow = loopers, since this is my looping station. Shipper = pays
> >>> = shipping though.
> = >>>
> >>> = EDP with Footswitch: http://por= tland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524252438.html
> >>>
> >>> AXON Guitar to Midi converter and sound = source: http://por= tland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/1524251329.html
> >>>
> >>> They're both in a 2 space rack mount = that is a little tricked out,
> >>> actually... I put mounted jack plates = (few xlr, few 1/4") on the
> = >>> side and 2 mike holder screw bases on the top so you can = wire a
> >>> = connection to them from the back of your stuff and only ever = have
> >>> to jack = into the side rather then reach in and so you can attach = a
> >>> goose neck = mic holder. Two actually, vocals and sax is what I = used
> >>> it = for.
> = >>>
> >>> = I have no idea what I'd charge for that. Probably pretty much = for
> >>> what = you'd by the 2 space rack mount for new. So if = you're
> >>> = interested in that let me know. I also have an amp stand I put = the
> >>> rack = mount on so it faces up at an angle. And footswitches. And = a
> >>> bunch of = RDL mixers. (Google Radio Design Labs... tiny = little
> >>> = mixers, switchers, noise gates etc. You wire them yourself, = that's
> >>> why = they're so small. They're also SUER quiet and high = quality.
> = >>>
> >>> = Everything's in great shape.
> >>>
> >>> Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, = Etc.!
> = >>>
> >>> = ---Christopher Darrow
> = >>> 503.327.9329
> = >>
> = >
>

Hotmail: = Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up = now.

= --Apple-Mail-10-180063185-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Dec 27 23:09:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 790013BE72; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261955388; bh=L3qt9k2l4ANyTRPjb2ZqrD42aeijsewsbGD+BUB1Ud8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=civ9+0PKguA6kE69tRxyMWjyVN9E1XDi3xUJlSQXqxh+ToNikUncVfHAtkOoIqoQ16AerVoJo0Enbw6nbFn3n5RSh7eaqYiResiFMRxL+0TOFvAGFFMWRxT6nDEAZLn3Mjkq6et77wbC5MCSb1+LOCMXXIZb4sd6csLUPoV6BY4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mPzcR07vjYAY3oh78TQqAnhUvoqnjg6Z/XBtReSwxborqZN3YCEhUrTrpEgduLsEQU9i3oVvHpjVVNb57zAsdwwAbH53tpcmrh7Q9KayqEDbXXXjuHO2EMtmZmwMTdyHQvmXymDtpCL/KaAE8b5ETd6cgq/loPgVA7DQlUWVJL8=; Message-ID: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CO8BydwVM1khd5wNL6NzXYyZVdT898HnJM8yaheJ3xJGJcog5UrWnOIJnMZkcb10xyBJClBJjPfYwfiFa4RmU6BTB8x3n61bcPlpadDBQL7.lsHPB0htLBHkouC6xheBJi1LTeb8hAkD7NtaWGZoU2ePItC7haSKanghkNCkw_TLnBHxOomBGIn1RidJwGoV3cuUPxVy85dWywhbes_hlPzJGF3sI66GzA3HXe6rVu9ayECPhkCBBk5b16.wD_EgeA19Vxb.yR2GXqQEor40sLu5zfzoPoxwE.NyozUK2FbJmtu3SMcXrZh9A3OyBp_CYcFvNycXYJZ.z8ErErUHArQN7Hm6efRgu03dPxkCqZNierbPb74xapJBQq_TW2AcIwF1LV008kvMhbXT6YadnL3US4cZMPFv635DYg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:09:48 -0800 (PST) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: New England Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-176236673-1261955388=:15224" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:09:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-176236673-1261955388=:15224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Who's on the Loopers-Delight list from the New England area? david undo http://www.myspace.com/undomusic --0-176236673-1261955388=:15224 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Who's on the Loopers-Delight list from the New England area?

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--0-176236673-1261955388=:15224-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 01:16:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71D2D3BE79; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 90773.72206.bm@omp611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261962979; bh=YT0nE3rYbyLnh8cWchZeytk32fUOjhRNMwR6yWvaKZk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=17x/RYNjehB8HzWBattg3ZFTF3WkhsYyVEajkwveNbbJs6cTgjjv54Qikf88s0W/YtSnmlZvahub1l0oRBcMhy4aZBvle/ehaDQNp5tGcxwKE8ysdpVCy70SDWsPbxRcao4v7IwgHLQZfok2bnZdXYkzW3P4nkr/rO5fpoyEx+c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E1B8GMl8eY92cUaYUWhNGS6+sxMTj0N+lleoWmNtfJbyePPiQtIKljzU62VLbEFlEo2Nb0ddL4K58ohP56sMKn6SfwF+6zlOlI4DYYxdpJSA4iap65rHn7mPekkb5xEevEpJAUh+17lmhYE9zKsd73gOm1VUAtu+6wa3JaAZTRI=; Message-ID: <849659.67789.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1Pk7Q4EVM1map1NIe8Coisz6qJ3CMvd4FxRGQyPSNBHhcKO2A27B0bS1o8KcrZlJTtCeghUL51FXTC8uBzU8YOW._rx1hbfX5CrU12sVZBmYjIbXQo27RUkr8dj2VYtdPuRUp_Lm0EmNOSxy9.ZHT7IJXZIIQ66CvEpScpWVoajIHCMLpFdCIbktuLS03B_L0sURjR78egLHf.Tqi2mDnDPf1GzdgE57qQ3VtWxRgN7Yli2sRU7N9OjLghjk84dF7bC.3VPpeM1mwT7b3KzAr_XyZP8ODju1LYBQF27HyFoaME7bTRK6kpA1kXk_k14lXxnhzdwSMjeqqIJ2cvIorxbThgyEsDUWGIfdvJ1hq.tRzEEqY1IiGhg- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:16:19 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: New England Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:16:21 +0000 (UTC) --- On Sun, 12/27/09, david kirkdorffer wrote: > Who's on the > Loopers-Delight list from the New England area? I am, although I've moved an hour further northeast than I was when I first met you. Near Portland, Maine now... Anyone else in northern New England? -t- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 02:06:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D8053BE75; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-190966635 Message-Id: <2235474A-C4D5-4D52-A9C5-C49CF015DBE6@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:06:48 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:06:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-190966635 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I can also offer any help that I am able to for this event, as long =20 as it happens in Portland. (I don't do all that much traveling.) I =20 also won't be performing but will be glad to assist in however I can. =20= A few places here in Ptld that immediately come to mind as =20 *potential* ( no guarantees) venues are Holocene, The Someday Lounge, =20= and Rotture. There may(?) be others that I am forgetting about, but =20 these 3 are kool places, and have a decent amount of space. (Holocene =20= actually has 2 separate stages in 2 separate rooms). All of these =20 places have previously featured a wide and often interesting variety =20= of musics and performances, and some of it has been in the same "ball =20= park" at least of what a loop fest may be like, and hopefully the =20 potential for an appreciative audience. They all are also in the =20 inner city and are EZ to find and get to. Just my 2 cents on this. I =20 also have no "connections" with any of these places. Just tossing =20 them out for anyone's consideration, and for anyone who has some kind =20= of experience with putting on fests, of which I have zero experience. =20= But if needed, I could maybe do some footwork and / or talking to any of these =20 places if I can offer something "tangible" for them to consider. =20 But, one possible caveat would be that there is a possibility that =20 any of these places may(?) want to do this on a week night (and / or =20 day?) and not a weekend when they usually do their best business. =20 They are clubs, y'know and usually bring in more customers and $ on =20 the weekends with booty shakin' and such music. ( Now, that is *not* say that loopage can never end up inducing at =20 least some kind of booty shakin', but I think ya know what I =20 mean. :-) ) Here are links for all three: http://www.holocene.org/ http://www.somedaylounge.com/ http://www.rotture.com/ Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR > On Dec 26, 2009, at 6:21 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> Jeremy, >> >> So far as I know Rev Fever wasn't expressing any particular =20 >> interest in this thing (event) so much as correcting my mistaken =20 >> memory. >> If you know otherwise he's certainly welcome. >> So far respondents have been: >> Christopher Darrow (who made the suggestion in the first place) =20 >> >> Myself, Ted Killian (weird guitarist stuck down here in =20 >> nowheresville - also known as Medford) >> Dave Trenkle (of Corvalis, who plays in a great jazz/funk band =20 >> called 11-eyes) >> Yourself (in Portland) >> And maybe Rev Fever (also in Portland) if he's interested. >> At some point we should take this off the list probably. >> Do we have enough interested parties yet? >> Discuss. >> Ted >> >> On Dec 26, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Jeremy devros wrote: >> >>> I'm here in the Portland area --I tend to be sort of quiet on the =20= >>> list ( ears open, mouth shut) --My current, long running gig is =20 >>> less looping and a whole lot of Middle Eastern/European/N African/=20= >>> Psychedelic jazzy stuff that belly dancers like. But I have =20 >>> thrown in looping to good effect. >>> I think a looping tour of Oregonians would rock. I have =20 >>> connections to a few venues here in Portland and Rev Fever knows =20 >>> a few more. >>> What are we waiting for? >>> J.D.Devros >>> deafrose58 >>> --Apple-Mail-2-190966635 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can also offer any help that I am able to for this event, as long as = it happens in Portland. (I don't do all that much traveling.) I also = won't be performing but will be glad to assist in however I can. A few = places here in Ptld that immediately come to mind as *potential* ( no = guarantees) venues are Holocene, The Someday Lounge, and Rotture. There = may(?) be others that I am forgetting about, but these 3 are kool = places, and have a decent amount of space. (Holocene actually has 2 = separate stages in 2 separate rooms). All of these places have = previously featured a wide and often interesting variety of musics = and performances, and some of it has been in the same "ball park" at = least of what a loop fest may be like, and hopefully the potential for = an appreciative audience. They all are also in the inner city and are EZ = to find and get to. Just my 2 cents on this. I also have no = "connections" with any of these places. Just tossing them out for = anyone's consideration, and for anyone who has some kind of experience = with putting on fests, of which I have zero experience. But if = needed,
I could maybe do some footwork and / or talking to any = of these places if I can offer something "tangible" for them to = consider. But, one possible caveat would be that there is a possibility = that any of these places may(?) want to do this on a week night (and / = or day?) and not a weekend when they usually do their best business. = They are clubs, y'know and usually bring in more customers and $ on = the weekends with booty shakin' and such = music.

( Now, that is *not* say that = loopage can never end up inducing at least some kind of booty shakin', = but I think ya know what I mean. :-) = )

Here are links for all = three:

http://www.holocene.org/
http://www.somedaylounge.com/

http://www.rotture.com/

=
Cheers,
Rev. = Fever
Portland,OR

On Dec 26, 2009, at 6:21 PM, tEd =AE = KiLLiAn wrote:

Jeremy,

So far as I know Rev Fever wasn't = expressing any particular interest in this thing (event) so much as = correcting my mistaken memory.
If you know otherwise he's certainly = welcome.
So far respondents have been:
Christopher Darrow (who = made the suggestion in the first place) <thedarrow@gmail.com>
Myself,= Ted Killian (weird guitarist stuck down here in nowheresville - also = known as Medford) <tedkillian@charter.net>
D= ave Trenkle (of Corvalis, who plays in a great jazz/funk band called = 11-eyes) <improv@peak.org>
Yourself (in = Portland) <deafrose58@hotmail.com>
A= nd maybe Rev Fever (also in Portland) if he's interested.
At some = point we should take this off the list probably.
Do we have enough = interested parties yet?
Discuss.
Ted

On Dec 26, 2009, at = 5:41 PM, Jeremy devros wrote:

I'm here = in the Portland area --I tend to be sort of quiet on the list ( ears = open, mouth shut) --My current, long running gig is less looping and a = whole lot of Middle Eastern/European/N African/Psychedelic jazzy stuff = that belly dancers like. But I have thrown in looping to good = effect.
I think a looping tour = of Oregonians would rock. I have connections to a few venues here in = Portland and Rev Fever knows a few more.
What are we waiting for?
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

= --Apple-Mail-2-190966635-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 02:55:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55E403BE7E; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lrW5cfVuxCD7g4qWPUnyij7Qdkyc8mqshytmaiVmAng=; b=i0STMEOCEebBHu+niW0cXJL15lCm7SWTd3biTw2AjV/nuxzeVrcZr+2lYuVOhmjeHR tUZaelTrzEPrtOQBMlheblQmZxnHeB3HZA2JFwDFDPVNaxpo35CjC5nt1flRB3GAiUjz o97QbjUgik52nxCpyv5vVPdnEWMc76F52b3jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fsk+rvOB8JhiATOly/6d/k3lka38o0uAMtOR7wItIg3FdHa0zOXM/93AvyS73sIEfB U69m9a0erGcqF9NL/ONy4aNQCr6HCFidHPOwTJydO/lXsOjh5uYID0V1SnKaB8QFv1oD jd7wS7LOmgT93KjoHEtgbp3j0Drb0n5OgBW0Q= Message-ID: <4B381E14.7020504@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:55:16 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS - unqualified comment References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <2235474A-C4D5-4D52-A9C5-C49CF015DBE6@ubergadget.com> In-Reply-To: <2235474A-C4D5-4D52-A9C5-C49CF015DBE6@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Revfever schrieb: > I can also offer any help that I am able to for this event, as long as > it happens in Portland. (I don't do all that much traveling.) I also > won't be performing but will be glad to assist in however I can. A few > places here in Ptld that immediately come to mind as *potential* ( no > guarantees) venues are Holocene, The Someday Lounge, and Rotture. > There may(?) be others that I am forgetting about, but these 3 are > kool places, and Now I'm not from Oregon, not even from near it, and have never been to it (no, wait...Wilsonville, that's Oregon, ain't it), but checking out the venues you suggested, I'd vote for Rotture hands down. With acts like "Fist Fite", Serious Business", "Rude Dudes", "Boy Meets Club", "Hooliganship" and, best of all, (warning: loop-related content ahead) "Welcome Home Walker", this may fit perfectly with our scene ;). Rainer (there's a sad thing for me to notice. All of those places you mention seem to be cool in some way - well, perhaps the Holocene mostly. I found it always odd that I don't have the faintest idea what the good places here in M�nchen are to do fun stuff, which has to do with the fact that most of the time when enjoying music I sit at home and either play it myself or listen to other people's conserved stuff...well, enough of that rant. Perhaps there's a chance I can change that next year...) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 04:46:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3EDD3BE77; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4B381E14.7020504@googlemail.com> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <2235474A-C4D5-4D52-A9C5-C49CF015DBE6@ubergadget.com> <4B381E14.7020504@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS - unqualified comment Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:46:40 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:46:44 +0000 (UTC) On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Revfever schrieb: >> I can also offer any help that I am able to for this event, as >> long as it happens in Portland. (I don't do all that much >> traveling.) I also won't be performing but will be glad to assist >> in however I can. A few places here in Ptld that immediately come >> to mind as *potential* ( no guarantees) venues are Holocene, The >> Someday Lounge, and Rotture. There may(?) be others that I am >> forgetting about, but these 3 are kool places, and > > Now I'm not from Oregon, not even from near it, and have never been > to it (no, wait...Wilsonville, that's Oregon, ain't it), but > checking out the venues you suggested, I'd vote for Rotture hands > down. > With acts like "Fist Fite", Serious Business", "Rude Dudes", "Boy > Meets Club", "Hooliganship" and, best of all, (warning: loop- > related content ahead) "Welcome Home Walker", this may fit > perfectly with our scene ;). Rotture also has had Richard Pinhas (Heldon) play there. Talk about loop cred! Whoa! And, the place has also had others not so "rude". (haha) But yes, it is usually a more rockin' joint, TMK. And also, a lot of "rockers", and even some of those that are their audience, are also gear heads and may be intrigued by a fest based on looping gear, and various looping tactics, and applications, and so on. And, there are even some loopers that go there! :-) Cheers, Rev. 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS - Next Steps / Misc. Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:15:22 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <2235474A-C4D5-4D52-A9C5-C49CF015DBE6@ubergadget.com> <4B381E14.7020504@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Well all-righty then! Sounds like we have a party. Answering some points I remember from the last several posts: > Should take off list at some point. > Loopers from outside Oregon I'll make a "North West Loopers" yahoo group or gmail group or facebook or some such some time this week. Just email me off line if you have a preference. Can be used for gig spam too so we can see what we're all doing. > What are we waiting for? For myself, I'm waiting to get my skills back. I think I was first on this list in '96 too, actually, under soundcolor@yahoo.com . But like I said, I took a break and am putting the finishing touches a whole new way of working that, once I get to it, will be ultra cool. I can feel this beast will finally be tamed here pretty soon but then once the workflow really works I have to get my actual looping chops back. So, 2nd quarter of 2010 is my goal. However, I'd love to do a short, non complicated thing with just an iphone and my EDP before I sell it. I could do that on short notice. It would be surprisingly not bad musically and hilarious as a concept piece. > Day of week for show For a first run, perhaps a Thursday? Close enough to the weekend to matter but not on the weekend so as not to be blown out of the water by other going's on. > David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs anymore - > concentrating mostly on visual art. I'd be interested to know what he's up to. I have live video as part of my deal too, ultimately... I either need a 2nd laptop or a new supped up Macbook pro to bring both out at once in a live setting. > We should hang out sometime, have a drink, play some pool, and talk gear/technique/music/etc. Oh, wait, that's not a quote. Okay, well then I'm saying it! I live in the Alberta Arts district of Portland. 21st and Alberta. 503.327.9329 and I'll see email sent to soundcolor@yahoo.com much faster---I miss things on this list email. Ping me sometime if you like and we'll kick it loop style. We'll kick it loop style. We'll kick it loop style. We'll kick it loop... We'll kick it... We'll kick... (woops... feedback pedal was up again.) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 13:15:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8968A3BE79; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_zvq65wFJZ4RNF24YiCP/AQ)" In-reply-to: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-id: <98B8C8F7-B6AF-43CE-BB6F-7AE29AEE11D2@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: New England Loopers Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:15:50 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:15:51 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_zvq65wFJZ4RNF24YiCP/AQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Durham Ct. On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:09 PM, david kirkdorffer wrote: > Who's on the Loopers-Delight list from the New England area? > > david > undo > http://www.myspace.com/undomusic > > --Boundary_(ID_zvq65wFJZ4RNF24YiCP/AQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Durham Ct.=A0

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= --Boundary_(ID_zvq65wFJZ4RNF24YiCP/AQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 14:05:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1FB73BE77; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: airlines regulations - no instruments on board? Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:05:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA87D7.95A753D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:05:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA87D7.95A753D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i have read in the news that there are some new regulations regarding = the airlines security for planes travelling to, from and in usa. the = news says that the passengers are not allowed to take anything on board. = well does that mean that we are not allowed to take our instruments and = laptops on board? do you have any news about that? i will be in usa for = various productions in june-july2010. and this got me a little worried. thanks and best. wish everyone the best in 2010. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes = = ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA87D7.95A753D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi,

i have read in the news that there are some new regulations = regarding the=20 airlines security for planes travelling to, from and in usa. the = news says=20 that the passengers are not allowed to take anything on board. well does = that=20 mean that we are not allowed to take our instruments and laptops on = board? do=20 you have any news about that? i will be in usa for various productions = in=20 june-july2010. and this got me a little worried.

thanks and best. wish everyone the best in 2010.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com

"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
= = ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA87D7.95A753D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 15:27:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FF603BE73; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Bob Amstadt To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-239023782 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Subject: Re: airlines regulations - no instruments on board? Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:27:42 -0600 References: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> Resent-Message-ID: <4RDgCC.A.2kC.T5MOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:27:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-239023782 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm no expert but the newspaper here didn't say anything about no carry on. They did say that passengers wouldn't be allowed to access their carry on in the last hour of flight. Tomorrow my family and I are flying home. I don't have an instrument with me but I can still let you know what our experience is after we arrive home. --Bob Amstadt On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:05 AM, "Erdem Helvacioglu" wrote: > hi, > > i have read in the news that there are some new regulations > regarding the airlines security for planes travelling to, from and > in usa. the news says that the passengers are not allowed to take > anything on board. well does that mean that we are not allowed to > take our instruments and laptops on board? do you have any news > about that? i will be in usa for various productions in june- > july2010. and this got me a little worried. > > thanks and best. wish everyone the best in 2010. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes --Apple-Mail-1-239023782 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm no expert but the newspaper here didn't say anything about no carry on. They did say that passengers wouldn't be allowed to access their carry on in the last hour of flight.

Tomorrow my family and I are flying home. I don't have an instrument with me but I can still let you know what our experience is after we arrive home.

--Bob Amstadt

On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:05 AM, "Erdem Helvacioglu" <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:

hi,

i have read in the news that there are some new regulations regarding the airlines security for planes travelling to, from and in usa. the news says that the passengers are not allowed to take anything on board. well does that mean that we are not allowed to take our instruments and laptops on board? do you have any news about that? i will be in usa for various productions in june-july2010. and this got me a little worried.

thanks and best. wish everyone the best in 2010.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com

"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and
allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching extremes

--Apple-Mail-1-239023782-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 15:49:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24F7E3BE79; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Di6jAS1c3kDvVx8G5kUp7IPTR5bPMVsLJ7yoj8hFQdg=; b=OjCdsu1LuMYQ5qjjPCgmWsWEhcx+EFR+kc222ObYwDx5Zvq0oRYBx5wpSvqpjgrdYH g69GT3RiHYZ71GicG+7/jWu+zURD0pcSAP0NxwWIaN0PUJgyrw73NrqNjO3i0yA0ugOr 0lJURVE9i81wHb+e8XtCKYXpf5OIJkPwzEeZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FuqbS5+7qFAwh94/EtS3SnV4iZLdEW5WSlju2+WYmzRoYlE77OMTK7qudxYBRFDeAR vRu57d5pqsDltBK/V2oFdsKY/qlwZD8wfmSPE1Tb1XiPPCLo2G/iOZ+9heGgK8+iIvKQ NL6CZr62QnoM9349+j05WTxEGBp0uVN89Vx5g= Message-ID: <4B38D367.7010102@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:48:55 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: airlines regulations - no instruments on board? References: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:49:16 +0000 (UTC) > I'm no expert but the newspaper here didn't say anything about no > carry on. They did say that passengers wouldn't be allowed to access > their carry on in the last hour of flight. Your experiences may still not compare to those Erdem is bound to have, given the fact that neither your name nor the country in your passport hint as islamist terrorist connections. (Not that Turkey has had that connection either ever since Atatürk, but who are we to expect that knowledge from the US people? ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 16:11:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E82653BE71; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5B0042CC-CF2D-4EF4-9DD0-7F17224A9595@amstadt.com> From: Bob Amstadt To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <4B38D367.7010102@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Subject: Re: airlines regulations - no instruments on board? Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:11:56 -0600 References: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> <4B38D367.7010102@googlemail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1RWW2C.A.yuD.yiNOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:11:30 +0000 (UTC) I can't argue with that. Even worse is that each airport is different =20= and each security screening line will be different. --Bob Amstadt On Dec 28, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Rainer Straschill =20 wrote: > >> I'm no expert but the newspaper here didn't say anything about no =20 >> carry on. They did say that passengers wouldn't be allowed to =20 >> access their carry on in the last hour of flight. > Your experiences may still not compare to those Erdem is bound to =20 > have, given the fact that neither your name nor the country in your =20= > passport hint as islamist terrorist connections. (Not that Turkey =20 > has had that connection either ever since Atat=C3=BCrk, but who are we = to=20 > expect that knowledge from the US people? ;) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 17:14:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53D903BE75; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4DC9E3A0-667D-4A1A-9D82-42F032B2253C@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-245440715 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: airlines regulations - no instruments on board? X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:14:42 -0800 References: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 7e7ada6d-f3d4-11de-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdVfT4bDBpo UEhAUlNVHgRsCxgF SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQe OjsDfQ4GYGBgamNR VElbc01TJQQbKk5D Pk0pVycJfGQGMi99 T1c5bnVpZW8FdngN SFFddl8Ee0tZVjc9 XRQDGzg0VVcISDg3 JgAnLVgHVANZNEJ6 MF06RUgFNhIUFhYW GEcFCihQPVVWLwAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 Resent-Message-ID: <0VhtPB.A._bF.IeOOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:14:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-245440715 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you'll get one carry on...until they change it again, it might be different by the time july rolls around. this is already essentially true for virgin atlantic, who for years has restricted carry ons to 13lbs/6kg. when i fly with them i carry on my laptop, a book and a bottle of water and put my looping gear in the hold with the cello (normally the cello is in the hold and my looping gear is a carry on). On Dec 28, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > i have read in the news that there are some new regulations > regarding the airlines security for planes travelling to, from and > in usa. the news says that the passengers are not allowed to take > anything on board. well does that mean that we are not allowed to > take our instruments and laptops on board? do you have any news > about that? i will be in usa for various productions in june- > july2010. and this got me a little worried. > > thanks and best. wish everyone the best in 2010. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes --Apple-Mail-1-245440715 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you'll get one carry on...until = they change it again, it might be different by the time july rolls = around.

this is already essentially true for virgin = atlantic, who for years has restricted carry ons to 13lbs/6kg. when i = fly with them i carry on my laptop, a book and a bottle of water and put = my looping gear in the hold with the cello (normally the cello is in the = hold and my looping gear is a carry on).

On Dec = 28, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:

hi,

i have read in = the news that there are some new regulations regarding the airlines = security for planes travelling to, from and in usa. the news says = that the passengers are not allowed to take anything on board. well does = that mean that we are not allowed to take our instruments and laptops on = board? do you have any news about that? i will be in usa for various = productions in june-july2010. and this got me a little = worried.

thanks and best. wish everyone the = best in 2010.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
<= a = href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu">www.myspace.com/erdemhelv= acioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded = Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com

"wounded breath album will open you up to new = experiences and
allow you to explore = worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard = Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding = acousmatic record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching = extremes

= --Apple-Mail-1-245440715-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 17:39:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96103BE73; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 724 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:39:18 UTC Message-Id: <6303D8DF-4436-4211-A8DD-FA9029DACF0F@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-246188064 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: airlines regulations - no instruments on board? X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:27:09 -0800 References: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 3bbabd39-f3d6-11de-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdVfT4bDBpo UEhAUlNVHgdvCx0A SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQe OiwlV2oGY2Vpb2RR VUJefk1XIlEbLEtG Y00pVycLfGQGMi99 T1c5bnVpZW8FdngN SFFddl8Ee0tZVjc9 XRQDGzg0VVcISDg3 JgAnLVgHVANZNEJ6 MF06RUgFNhIUFhYW GEcFCihQPVVWLwAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:39:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-246188064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit its a pain, expensive and scary (given than baggage enters an alternate universe when it gets checked), but i've found the more i can check on an international flight, the easier my journey. after more than my share of searches and manhandling of both me and my cello/ equipment by security, i invested in some hardcore flight cases, and just pay the exorbitant fees. and i'm a US/Canadian citizen...so i can only imagine how much worse it could be for a musician from turkey. i keep thinking air travel is going to get better, but it just gets worse and worse! On Dec 28, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > i have read in the news that there are some new regulations > regarding the airlines security for planes travelling to, from and > in usa. the news says that the passengers are not allowed to take > anything on board. well does that mean that we are not allowed to > take our instruments and laptops on board? do you have any news > about that? i will be in usa for various productions in june- > july2010. and this got me a little worried. > > thanks and best. wish everyone the best in 2010. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes --Apple-Mail-2-246188064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable its a pain, expensive and scary = (given than baggage enters an alternate universe when it gets checked), = but i've found the more i can check on an international flight, the = easier my journey. after more than my share of searches and manhandling = of both me and my cello/equipment by security, i invested in some = hardcore flight cases, and just pay the exorbitant fees. and i'm a = US/Canadian citizen...so i can only imagine how much worse it could be = for a musician from turkey.

i keep thinking air = travel is going to get better, but it just gets worse and = worse!

On Dec 28, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Erdem = Helvacioglu wrote:

hi,

i have read in = the news that there are some new regulations regarding the airlines = security for planes travelling to, from and in usa. the news says = that the passengers are not allowed to take anything on board. well does = that mean that we are not allowed to take our instruments and laptops on = board? do you have any news about that? i will be in usa for various = productions in june-july2010. and this got me a little = worried.

thanks and best. wish everyone the = best in 2010.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
<= a = href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu">www.myspace.com/erdemhelv= acioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded = Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com

"wounded breath album will open you up to new = experiences and
allow you to explore = worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard = Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding = acousmatic record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching = extremes

= --Apple-Mail-2-246188064-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 17:58:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A4E43BE75; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MuNr8kNOFMM4+Q15wqDKnk4D+ct6Kat1LGqCauxw1ZA=; b=naPIHmAfLlNac1gShslbV0IhrlnL84Ecv6gEZefNgTOiYYGhEfsWNIDLrrhD+5q9WZ svGYtyvEjRhWoplVqnZnfJpJn4Z7ntkySy9ThrU6UoizHGZmFwDYn4zbSeSUL+36inYN hFwUwoFsVp7/hVtX9PV3aLxbjdgzmwoE70/fs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EZwVXT7MnbRVPI56wPKb8Fv5KjCQZuI+xR91Z9o1HGdFLMAJib7kKLb38j23QTxTuI WVqluJaqteaE29KOtcYLYpkgwc0YuwQa1xmqk2fBCjOsojxfUnqwxs3uuuOeI+fOg9VG gSH137qe5QNT4Ihx/AKyouTrz184bOw50CX1k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6303D8DF-4436-4211-A8DD-FA9029DACF0F@zoekeating.com> References: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> <6303D8DF-4436-4211-A8DD-FA9029DACF0F@zoekeating.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:58:04 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912280958t4935e57etbc0db7d9da00b70@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: airlines regulations - no instruments on board? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b396a9e869047bcda528 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:58:06 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b396a9e869047bcda528 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I only have domestic experience but have quite a bit of that. In recent years I've been traveling with 2 to 3 instruments plus some form of gear/laptop bag. In years past I have gotten stressed out either trying to get more on the plane or worried about my oud or violin getting hammered by somebody's roller case in the overhead. For the last two trips I've just let go, paid the extra bags fees and taken minimal on the plane, this last trip to CA (Virgin Atlantic which was another nightmare story) just took laptop bag and violin on the flight, checked my oud and guitar stashing most of my pedeal gear in the oud case and in many ways it was much less stress. Due to birdstrike, canceled unexplained flights, having to miss a gig due the former and checked instruments not coming in until the next day, unfortunately these latter balanced out my lowered stress gained raising the level back to where it would have been normally. Twas an adventure. I will say knock on the proverbial wood I have yet to had an instrument damaged by the airlines though every time I check one I'm sure I'm going to open the case and the headstock is going to wrecked but never has so far. I do think given the new scare in Detroit and the fellow in London that things are only going to get more difficult as Zoe suggested. Jim --00151747b396a9e869047bcda528 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I only have domestic experience but have quite a bit of that.=A0 In re= cent years I've been traveling with 2 to 3 instruments plus some form o= f gear/laptop bag.=A0 In years past I have gotten stressed out either tryin= g to get more on the plane or worried about my oud or violin getting hammer= ed by somebody's roller case in the overhead.=A0 For the last two trips= I've just let go, paid the extra bags fees and taken minimal on the pl= ane, this last trip to CA (Virgin Atlantic which was another nightmare stor= y) just took laptop bag and violin on the flight, checked my oud and guitar= stashing most of my pedeal gear in the oud case and in many ways it was mu= ch less stress.=A0 Due to birdstrike, canceled unexplained flights, having = to miss a gig due the former and checked instruments not coming in until th= e next day, unfortunately these latter balanced out my lowered stress gaine= d raising the level back to where it would have been normally.=A0 Twas an a= dventure.=A0 I will say knock on the proverbial wood I have yet to had an i= nstrument damaged by the airlines though every time I check one I'm sur= e I'm going to open the case and the headstock is going to wrecked but = never has so far.

=A0

I do think given the new scare in Detroit and the fellow in London tha= t things are only going to get more difficult as Zoe suggested.

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Jim
--00151747b396a9e869047bcda528-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 18:13:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 102763BE73; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262023988; bh=/WYtsHMBID1XYc3xOSJEpwg267fv2ugLnlarB5HXEPQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RIdUZJAeOYJtXflfc1q7ft3+cVyb3i3YjV/60rsEh1Q56k76ZS+9oZj0+tZmvMpiJFqIRxgyGujLWKkg3yNzEB++r5q2lCeVer2h9Yx77BDchh3L1kFe3xkZpXVntw7jvk5T5SCXQ7lB4RoHKQcHGyYhSzraOWTy99xS+gYvL3A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=W7nt/TQRTKZGA1iT27jzCm8dBhulDoNo+LrVKBTCZWGkkR2+rcET7bYkPsw28m4P/diP1mC0CjHX/VIzzuA90e8aQCAFGEbMx03hNNs1IgtlqMOZ4CLf5tDNrH0An4KNXjcvnvw+81N8B+AZYZIY0Is770hKiRnSGRR17vYCtEg=; Message-ID: <522864.12181.qm@web54002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: smKCsIwVM1navHkOwo2aO5YVr9eI4i23VswpimXND94h.Y8Nfd5tSna62lI6fIEVqZZAlSaZ.zDQcmbq2DYVdwe5A1Np7HdB_oDn6J2gGVhrm1Cskir7zASFxjyxJ93pDuKnQuwjAcqtGct.RaGq0ddE62vw71lA6VwImPHvOqbrwkTXwLrqvcnnFK2AsaOkfhp1NUecwZVfQaYVRJL9wb4L8JLQWd2YC1JiF52FTMINEO0p7BeF3poFJrozqWOaYUEQnXwZh.sMZpHm.B67EtClKWRSz2HDcHkrL8dIK_xMl_6zzBltgDuRgrTHqbgyJ.sts3MhOyE9ErakFSq8UnLPA4Rvwj2JOmgx7QN2N7jOmp1zEw6LSp7GRiVEGEEdvjSvUEfrCBqZAW.cE9BnNDJ3TZlhWdltY9PaU4N3qoBq.c81pPNEl0AFOQ54qUTy2tMNedOB1LSFG6lUNAA2fpNCE7RuxnCOnOy3YuFAyNIFpK4eFbFrGi6WOKsVmCEcP3cm_wR2FKmnW.1xWfVicfmpJXr.Q1XdA17e8WkvejMVnNcLGJo.JFhQ5GOpLWiL7athfrRI8Nd_geGOhnkVFEl.8uh2TxjaNeZKZxJ3PXtSEKXBc2VNAcjrHzuMWaWAJ9lkkbxgcXPNS3czHksP_4NZYRuwbw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:13:07 -0800 (PST) From: murkie Subject: Re: New England Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Vermont representing.=0A=0Am.c.=0A=0Awww.TwistedAppleRecords.com=0A=0AStone= Document's Anamnesis now available from iTunes!http://itunes.apple.com/Web= Objects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=3D301414103&s=3D143441=0A=0A=0A=0A--- O= n Sun, 12/27/09, david kirkdorffer wrote:=0A=0A> Fr= om: david kirkdorffer =0A> Subject: New England Loop= ers=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Sunday, December = 27, 2009, 6:09 PM=0A> Who's on the=0A> Loopers-Delight list from the New En= gland area?=0A> =A0=0A> david =0A> undo=0A> http://www.myspace.com/undomusi= c=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 18:18:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9D803BE73; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZDYjvIFsIxSThW3RSk800gU+6Epk71njC5Pd1I2Bgmk=; b=fYTlp28Uv/j5sqP9gIN/5SzrTmimVoRy+lhbDwmsibMGUXXAIMOetZsfCqDgDSU6zq JC0aGMOb5twbGRPhu9zYQZH+VOBzJ/tuAkrVzTVzEeXIci5Ht9CW/cJA0pwYaSkmEHzp TpCQdL7uFwPgXq+pFUg3y82mqJkbx7g4B24nQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GTk7NDNOadelltVq4jP4lWWGzi6oVu4AC5A0gvi2TmyUh1TEOtLlEcGo7qllu7YiL3 uamweykdwmH+yhXN9eadCVYt5faW+LK6oFJQfFejTY+ozm8hwaGO9HmmseR+1IPf8Cpr C8I/Ws2XmRDtg6ILehP9+UzL4d8mm4KXrcrIc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <522864.12181.qm@web54002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <522864.12181.qm@web54002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:18:03 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912281018y6eb0f95bo2d241e1e94f72a64@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New England Loopers From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b3961d34b9047bcdedb9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:18:05 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b3961d34b9047bcdedb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm in Brooklyn which is probably a bit south of your demographic but if you organizing a northeast gathering/festival/etc count me in the mix. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:13 PM, murkie wrote: > Vermont representing. > > m.c. > > www.TwistedAppleRecords.com > > Stone Document's Anamnesis now available from iTunes! > http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=301414103&s=143441 > > > > --- On Sun, 12/27/09, david kirkdorffer wrote: > > > From: david kirkdorffer > > Subject: New England Loopers > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 6:09 PM > > Who's on the > > Loopers-Delight list from the New England area? > > > > david > > undo > > http://www.myspace.com/undomusic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --00151747b3961d34b9047bcdedb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in Brooklyn which is probably a bit south of your demographic but i= f=A0you organizing a northeast gathering/festival/etc count me in the mix.<= br>

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:13 PM, murkie <sinister_footw= ear@yahoo.com> wrote:

Vermont representing.

m.c= .

= www.TwistedAppleRecords.com

Stone Document's Anamnesis now available from iTunes!http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.w= oa/wa/viewAlbum?id=3D301414103&s=3D143441

--- On Sun, 12/27/09, david kirkdorffer <<= a href=3D"mailto:unstrungone@yahoo.com">unstrungone@yahoo.com> wrote= :

> From: david kirkdorffer <unstrungone@yahoo.com>
> Subject: New England Loopers
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> D= ate: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 6:09 PM

> Who's on the
> Loopers-Delight list from t= he New England area?
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video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--00151747b3961d34b9047bcdedb9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 20:25:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24AD03BE77; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:25:37 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <564C2E2D-0075-4351-A190-98145E64B9C1@grubmah.com> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Will you allow Washingtonians in? Portland at least is reasonable from = Seattle. Mark On Dec 26, 2009, at 6:21 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Jeremy, >=20 > So far as I know Rev Fever wasn't expressing any particular interest = in this thing (event) so much as correcting my mistaken memory. >=20 > If you know otherwise he's certainly welcome. >=20 > So far respondents have been: >=20 > Christopher Darrow (who made the suggestion in the first place) = >=20 > Myself, Ted Killian (weird guitarist stuck down here in nowheresville = - also known as Medford) >=20 > Dave Trenkle (of Corvalis, who plays in a great jazz/funk band called = 11-eyes) >=20 > Yourself (in Portland) >=20 > And maybe Rev Fever (also in Portland) if he's interested. >=20 > At some point we should take this off the list probably. >=20 > Do we have enough interested parties yet? >=20 > Discuss. >=20 > Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 20:35:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F99D3BE77; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B391657.3000204@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:34:31 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for December 26, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:35:37 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/091226.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. Bill also hosts Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #164 December 26, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Congratulations to Vincent of Bridgewater, NJ who won Ciro Hurtado's "Guitarista" and to Bruce of Whitehall who won Michael Stribling's "The Promise." Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Alman Mulo Band] Hammer That Nail Sequences No. 8 VA [Mooch] Human and Euyyueh Sequences No. 8 VA [David Wright] Buffalo Run Sequences No. 8 Indra The Other World Dhumavati (Eagle) Viridian Sun Infinite In All Infinite In All Directions Directions Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Michael Stribling Ascending Through The Promise (none) Clouds Michael DeMaria The River The River (Ontos) Ciro Hurtado Agua Dulce Guitarista (Inti) 9Muses Master Mind Feel To Heal (Blue Amazon) Phil Keaggy and Like Walking On Frio Suite (Ark) Jeff Johnson Water Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Phideaux] Strange Cloud Purgatorio (Musea) VA [Tommy Eriksson] The Stream of Hope Purgatorio (Musea) IZZ Stumbling The Darkened Room (Doone) IZZ The Message The Darkened Room (Doone) IZZ 23 Minutes of The Darkened Room (Doone) Tragedy IZZ Can't Feel the The Darkened Room (Doone) Earth, Part III Alan Morse Cold Fusion Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00/ITZ-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm MySpace: http://myspace.com/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ======================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 20:36:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E83B3BE75; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3610 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:36:28 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:16:51 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: New England Loopers Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Framingham, MA -- but I stick to video these days. At 3:09 PM -0800 12/27/09, david kirkdorffer wrote: >Who's on the Loopers-Delight list from the New England area? > >david >undo >http://www.myspace.com/undomusic -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld "Don't make book, if you cannot cover bets." -- Tom Lehrer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 20:42:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B39D3BE77; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Ab3siHaX0xa1s6mSmzmtgHG/2HZjYv7K5wMKGz0qWpWQavFcUKq/GyOWls7qJDOD; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <19026144.1262032919468.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:41:59 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48a0f9b59e4542e6683358ad03089f55a81a036a86675380a6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:41:59 +0000 (UTC) S T A N O S A U R wouldnt mind drivin up from frisco either :-) http://stanosaur.com/ -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Hamburg >Sent: Dec 28, 2009 3:25 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS > >Will you allow Washingtonians in? Portland at least is reasonable from Sea= ttle. > >Mark > > >On Dec 26, 2009, at 6:21 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> Jeremy, >>=20 >> So far as I know Rev Fever wasn't expressing any particular interest in = this thing (event) so much as correcting my mistaken memory. >>=20 >> If you know otherwise he's certainly welcome. >>=20 >> So far respondents have been: >>=20 >> Christopher Darrow (who made the suggestion in the first place) >>=20 >> Myself, Ted Killian (weird guitarist stuck down here in nowheresville - = also known as Medford) >>=20 >> Dave Trenkle (of Corvalis, who plays in a great jazz/funk band called 11= -eyes) >>=20 >> Yourself (in Portland) >>=20 >> And maybe Rev Fever (also in Portland) if he's interested. >>=20 >> At some point we should take this off the list probably. >>=20 >> Do we have enough interested parties yet? >>=20 >> Discuss. >>=20 >> Ted > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 20:48:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 450943BE73; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <564C2E2D-0075-4351-A190-98145E64B9C1@grubmah.com> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <564C2E2D-0075-4351-A190-98145E64B9C1@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <78AECCB3-56F0-4C6F-A09C-00CECC55FD56@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:48:29 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:48:37 +0000 (UTC) On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Will you allow Washingtonians in? Portland at least is reasonable > from Seattle. > > Mark I vote "yes". Also, what about the possibility of a large, improv jam with as many fest members as possible (or that the board would accommodate? Or...?) that wanted to participate as the "closing act" for such a fest? It might produce interesting, on the fly, musical results, or it could also turn into a huge wall of noise and sound, which might also be interesting . (I personally like that sort of thing, along with a love for actual "music"). Who knows....? Just another 2 cents from Moi. Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 21:09:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBBAC3BE7F; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <98B8C8F7-B6AF-43CE-BB6F-7AE29AEE11D2@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New England Loopers Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:09:01 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 75.9.134.189 In-Reply-To: <98B8C8F7-B6AF-43CE-BB6F-7AE29AEE11D2@mac.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pjbmhb@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC56191D40B7E6_6CC4_791DB_webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30109-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC56191D34D0F2-6CC4-3D4ED@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: PJBMHB@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:09:20 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CC56191D40B7E6_6CC4_791DB_webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I bought my Line 6 Looper @ Banko's! CT Loopers unite! =3D-) PJ -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sewell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 8:15 am Subject: Re: New England Loopers Durham Ct.=20 On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:09 PM, david kirkdorffer wrote: Who's on the Loopers-Delight list from the New England area? =20 david undo http://www.myspace.com/undomusic =3D =20 ----------MB_8CC56191D40B7E6_6CC4_791DB_webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I bought my Line 6 Looper @ Banko's! CT Looper= s unite!

=3D-) PJ

-= ----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 8:15 am
Subject: Re: New England Loopers

Durham Ct.

On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:09 PM, david kirkdorffer wrote:

Who's on the Loopers-Delight list from the New England are= a?

david

undo

http://www.myspace.com/undomusic

=3D

----------MB_8CC56191D40B7E6_6CC4_791DB_webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 21:18:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E1AF3BE81; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <78AECCB3-56F0-4C6F-A09C-00CECC55FD56@ubergadget.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:18:39 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20D82C8C-A67D-4BB4-BF82-C3B644567D00@grubmah.com> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <564C2E2D-0075-4351-A190-98145E64B9C1@grubmah.com> <78AECCB3-56F0-4C6F-A09C-00CECC55FD56@ubergadget.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:18:41 +0000 (UTC) One of the things that worked well at Loopstock 2003 was that there was = a large stage where several people were able to keep their gear set up = for group improvs. Mark On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Revfever wrote: > On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> Will you allow Washingtonians in? Portland at least is reasonable = from Seattle. >>=20 >> Mark >=20 > I vote "yes". >=20 > Also, what about the possibility of a large, improv jam with as many = fest members as possible (or that the board would accommodate? Or...?) = that wanted to participate as the > "closing act" for such a fest? It might produce interesting, on the = fly, musical results, or it could also turn into a huge wall of noise = and sound, which might also be interesting . > (I personally like that sort of thing, along with a love for actual = "music"). Who knows....? Just another 2 cents from Moi. >=20 > Cheers, > Rev. Fever > Portland,OR >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 21:20:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 885D43BE90; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <20D82C8C-A67D-4BB4-BF82-C3B644567D00@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:20:11 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <564C2E2D-0075-4351-A190-98145E64B9C1@grubmah.com> <78AECCB3-56F0-4C6F-A09C-00CECC55FD56@ubergadget.com> <20D82C8C-A67D-4BB4-BF82-C3B644567D00@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:20:16 +0000 (UTC) And lacking a big stage, depending on how long a show we were doing, we = could try to come up with a couple of groups of moderately likeminded = players and do essentially a first set and a second set. What key are we in? Mark On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > One of the things that worked well at Loopstock 2003 was that there = was a large stage where several people were able to keep their gear set = up for group improvs. >=20 > Mark >=20 > On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Revfever wrote: >=20 >> On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >>=20 >>> Will you allow Washingtonians in? Portland at least is reasonable = from Seattle. >>>=20 >>> Mark >>=20 >> I vote "yes". >>=20 >> Also, what about the possibility of a large, improv jam with as many = fest members as possible (or that the board would accommodate? Or...?) = that wanted to participate as the >> "closing act" for such a fest? It might produce interesting, on the = fly, musical results, or it could also turn into a huge wall of noise = and sound, which might also be interesting . >> (I personally like that sort of thing, along with a love for actual = "music"). Who knows....? Just another 2 cents from Moi. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Rev. Fever >> Portland,OR >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 21:21:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8D0D3BEA4; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RgttUiUonHVV2QjVztwA:9 a=8E_Hcz1XSLpEfwCtccSe8T_EWUQA:4 Message-Id: <66655819-34AD-4DB0-B535-51D2CC5DC35F@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <78AECCB3-56F0-4C6F-A09C-00CECC55FD56@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:21:29 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <564C2E2D-0075-4351-A190-98145E64B9C1@grubmah.com> <78AECCB3-56F0-4C6F-A09C-00CECC55FD56@ubergadget.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9HSZqB.A.LaF.uFSOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Yes to both . . . On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Revfever wrote: > On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >> Will you allow Washingtonians in? Portland at least is reasonable >> from Seattle. >> >> Mark > > I vote "yes". > > Also, what about the possibility of a large, improv jam with as many > fest members as possible (or that the board would accommodate? > Or...?) that wanted to participate as the > "closing act" for such a fest? It might produce interesting, on the > fly, musical results, or it could also turn into a huge wall of > noise and sound, which might also be interesting . > (I personally like that sort of thing, along with a love for actual > "music"). Who knows....? Just another 2 cents from Moi. > > Cheers, > Rev. Fever > Portland,OR > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 21:27:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1F763BEC3; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zy+09pclez95MyY7qPfOd8nBpFCdg33AbQgsqjDfE58=; b=TrXTLzJX6lEGlX0um+2rKxig+UtQ+uwgMgWah6h9oFUIvtPBP0xQDmNP9F+I9pZMig IhXLzOgR2GC4eawo15UAegO6Lt5GvTm90dRBTXeGMthNa9wbLKC1C8+9/Y64CHVZ6rgf 9MT5bOTX+i42v8Lgzl59gtcfKUVAiXYNUsBVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=p/UStBuSPpk7PJqVXBct4u2GmRdYHQzxrxNgyhMrOdpP1sgVSwfAbCEUVHzI6dAXQt ppdpukJvCUjpSVkxskjB5OyBIF0BF4qhjEHDHTOpz0fCiv8A97FTnmFjQpK+lM+sKnv2 XwHQIPt7fYpZkLETGesRyXhEQA0y3QKVJ43cA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8CC56191D34D0F2-6CC4-3D4ED@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> References: <928623.15224.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <98B8C8F7-B6AF-43CE-BB6F-7AE29AEE11D2@mac.com> <8CC56191D34D0F2-6CC4-3D4ED@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:27:02 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 230e76f84395c8aa Message-ID: <101191640912281327n44c56cc7o65d1ee97b3a70b8c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New England Loopers From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362836bc004871047bd0913b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:27:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016362836bc004871047bd0913b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm in "lower" upstate ny, which I *think* is New England. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM, wrote: > *I bought my Line 6 Looper @ Banko's! CT Loopers unite!* > * > * > *=-) PJ* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Sewell > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 8:15 am > Subject: Re: New England Loopers > > Durham Ct. > > > On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:09 PM, david kirkdorffer wrote: > > Who's on the Loopers-Delight list from the New England area? > > david > undo > http://www.myspace.com/undomusic > > > > = > -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --0016362836bc004871047bd0913b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in "lower" upstate ny, which I *think* is New England.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM, <pjbmhb@aol.com> wrote:

I bought my Line = 6 Looper @ Banko's! CT Loopers unite!

=3D-) PJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 8:15 am
Subject: Re: New England Loopers

Durham Ct.=A0

On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:09 PM, david kirkdorffer wrote:

Who's on the Loopers-Delight list from the = New England area?

=A0

david

undo

http://www.myspace.com/undomusic

=3D
=20

--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops= , Live & Otw
http:= //www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
--0016362836bc004871047bd0913b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 22:05:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76EC33BE75; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1309 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:05:34 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: oregon loopers References: <20091228210921.5892C3BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:43:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Marc Roche" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20091228210921.5892C3BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.10 (Win32) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-ID: nBSLhexE009589 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.37, required 6, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.23, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-From: govinda56@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm a longtime lurker. I live in the woods west of Eugene. I would love to participate. I'm yet another guitars. I dabble in Jazz, Blues etc. Marc Roche Walton Or From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Dec 28 22:21:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B913E3BE7E; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=QZo8tDet1O0zZ+waExcVBI1iiTZsI1drInVMahi6FHM=; b=eoclRugdCugj/E5qLWSXrsDKJd1JNPoN/oNZZwEeoWoe75bFKF8YSGP6Nn7AxEZyiz 2XIsOcGbBpJFMpm+TirYOjpPJ+3wB5Ih9OynYGQIp6SNloP6VfmigfRO5KsheuWiRH7L vTGpG2cmFKLUXhAXOnTuPdU3/UKiyfLgdo0NQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=mVG/6f5nwZyYiQLa1rO+4Vsx5yAa9vBa12FKonHd/W5Uxwv0JeXDESpREJxg+l2k/S FXErw+m+oxz/k8ZhnYs+r68Z6cT5tU7OxDl059utqPeXrGAiFY3rn+RKtrS30Uv2dPtH HYk5V2FeQX0vr2YXSjmuKQx+49nrk1iHEOpJU= Message-Id: <94AFB6BB-BD3C-4495-BA0A-E415C0F563FB@gmail.com> From: Christopher Darrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66655819-34AD-4DB0-B535-51D2CC5DC35F@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: North West Loopers (was OREGON LOOPERS) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:23:43 -0800 References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <564C2E2D-0075-4351-A190-98145E64B9C1@grubmah.com> <78AECCB3-56F0-4C6F-A09C-00CECC55FD56@ubergadget.com> <66655819-34AD-4DB0-B535-51D2CC5DC35F@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <33tXtC.A.QVH.h9SOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Yes, Washington, Canada, even SF, welcome. So far I have one vote for =20= using Facebook for a North West Loopers group, so unless there are =20 other votes I'll make such a thing in the next day or two. > what about the possibility of a large, improv jam with as many fest > members as possible (or that the board would accommodate? Or...?) > that wanted to participate as the "closing act" for such a fest? My personal opinion is that such things, well, usually suck if they =20 are a free-for-all but if you re-introduce some sort of limited =20 structure to guide it here and there it becomes interesting to me and =20= I'd love to experiment with that. More specifically, I'd like to experiment with specific, creative =20 tricks for managing it and see what happens with each. As just one example, what if the spot light moved from one person to =20 another over time and whoever it was on was the conductor, able to use =20= hand motions to advise others to play more or less? Furthermore, I'd love to see some sort of interactivity where the =20 crowd somehow help shapes, or contributes to the shape things take. On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:21 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Yes to both . . . > > On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Revfever wrote: > >> On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> >>> Will you allow Washingtonians in? Portland at least is reasonable =20= >>> from Seattle. >>> >>> Mark >> >> I vote "yes". >> >> Also, what about the possibility of a large, improv jam with as =20 >> many fest members as possible (or that the board would accommodate? =20= >> Or...?) that wanted to participate as the >> "closing act" for such a fest? It might produce interesting, on the =20= >> fly, musical results, or it could also turn into a huge wall of =20 >> noise and sound, which might also be interesting . >> (I personally like that sort of thing, along with a love for actual =20= >> "music"). Who knows....? Just another 2 cents from Moi. >> >> Cheers, >> Rev. 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Reply-to: tonywaters6@gmail.com Subject: Respond asap, it is urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.4 X-Originating-IP: 78.138.3.238 To: undisclosed-recipients:; I am Tony Waters(Esq.) from The United Kingdom. I was given your contact to contact you. Please get back to me as soon as possible.I have an important message for you. contact me Via My Private email, please it is important you contact me via my private Email. tonywaters007@gmail.com Regards, Tony Waters (Esq.) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 29 01:58:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B73C3BE72; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B39623B.3010504@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:58:19 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: OREGON loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <__yQrD.A.OkD.BJWOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:58:25 +0000 (UTC) The Rev. Fever suggested: "Also, what about the possibility of a large, improv jam with as many fest members as possible (or that the board would accommodate? Or...?) that wanted to participate as the "closing act" for such a fest? It might produce interesting, on the fly, musical results, or it could also turn into a huge wall of noise and sound, which might also be interesting ." For what it's worth, this has often been suggested at the many festivals that I've organized (all multiple artist festivals) and usually the answer is that it's logistically impossible if there have been a lot of musicians on during the festival because gear has to be removed continually to accomodate new musicians playing. It has worked in venues where everyone was able to fit on stage. As an example, at the Koln Festival that Michael Peter's organized last summer, we were able to set 9 or 10 musicians up simultaneously on stage but the problem then is getting them all into the snake, unless you have a really monstrous board which allows one to just mute and later unmute channels after people have played. This was done really wonderfully in Firenze by Massimo Liverani and the end jam results are actually on youtube as we speak. Unfortuantely, I was sick as a dog that evening (went into the hospital the next day) so I can't remember all that much of that jam other than what got posted, online. good luck, though, folks. I wish I could come up and perform with you all. I've still never done a Pacific Northwest or an Atlantic Northeast live looping tour and I feel remiss. Happy New Years! 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--47406626-POCO-68065348-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 29 13:12:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27DCA3BE75; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lg9R5Uur0hRkJv6di6NoF9vaMF1axBQ0SQRCRZsZYgg=; b=PqogzZXf6lYcVkh+5GYZiqWaaKlzOHnieNMhMwrMAmKN6noCyuRJ3QNYkeahlX66uX tsTWGeXx4Dnvt8kQxNDrHJcMILkp+0i8LQT+uDV1FEnAWqZQWb8oJtpGUBqMUPlnkvFL BKXDlCmLfm1ZeNNa/UPeQmkbwmiyEdqr2uAfo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aKZZYHiwEEypspPnMsKfySnN2vOrDe1TFpvDDPoqA+TnsRmXnQtJSLuO1f9A+lYou6 i86aoLh8XT5Pv2T0DeXA0KP5eX6m5UwcapGmTwN75RTK4nhchzrepHjxdggX3tuVdFmK gFswSU5tOs5gFiCNWVw0jELyVwl4Eqq47aj9M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60912280958t4935e57etbc0db7d9da00b70@mail.gmail.com> References: <001501ca87c6$d2696f80$0500000a@erdem1> <6303D8DF-4436-4211-A8DD-FA9029DACF0F@zoekeating.com> <9e0440a60912280958t4935e57etbc0db7d9da00b70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:12:14 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90912290512r4a99a27bqbadd97ae24c2ca1a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: airlines regulations - no instruments on board? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502af0444038d047bddc539 Resent-Message-ID: <8rAFIC.A.Mg.vAgOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:12:16 +0000 (UTC) --00504502af0444038d047bddc539 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Erdem, Writing from Canada, what I read this morning in the paper is that (for an unspecified but perhaps limited time) carry on bags will be limited to certain items only (max of one per passenger). You may bring on board: a laptop bag, a camera bag, a handbag or a diaper bag. Backpacks and such must be checked. It was always hard for me to bring my horn as carry on, I think it's now completely impossible... also, certain american carriers will not allow passengers to leave their seat or hold objects on their knees one hour before landing. Zoe's advice re: flight cases is the way to go. You can also get a golfbag case like Douglas Yeo recommends for traveling with a trombone. I know you're a guitarist, but your concerns may be similar to his: http://www.yeodoug.com/resources/faq/faq_text/travel.html original article in French follows, Sylvain *PUBLICATION: * Le Droit *DATE: * 2009.12.29 *SECTION: * Actualit=E9s *PA= GE: * 2 *WORD COUNT: * 253 ------------------------------ Plus de bagages =E0 bord ------------------------------ Les voyageurs se rendant aux =C9tats-Unis sont limit=E9s =E0 un seul " effe= t personnel " =E0 bord de l'appareil. Il doit s'agir d'un sac =E0 main, d'un = =E9tui =E0 ordinateur, d'un sac =E0 couches ou d'un =E9tui =E0 cam=E9ra. Tous les = autres bagages, y compris les petites valises =E0 roulettes et les sacs =E0 dos, doivent =EAtre enregistr=E9s et d=E9pos=E9s dans la soute. " On essaie de l= imiter au strict minimum les effets apport=E9s dans l'avion. On permet par exemple d'apporter des m=E9dicaments. Cette mesure est prise essentiellement pour acc=E9l=E9rer les fouilles ", explique la porte-parole de Transports Canada= , Lucie Vignola. Pour diminuer le d=E9sagr=E9ment de cette mesure, plusieurs compagnies dont Air Canada et WestJet annulent temporairement les frais d'exc=E9dent de bagages. Tous les passagers ainsi que leur " effet personnel " sont syst=E9matiqueme= nt soumis =E0 une fouille personnelle d'abord =E0 un point de contr=F4le de s= =FBret=E9 =E0 l'a=E9roport, puis dans la zone d'embarquement avant de monter =E0 bord. Certaines compagnies a=E9riennes am=E9ricaines interdisent aux passagers de= se lever de leur si=E8ge une heure avant l'atterrissage. Les voyageurs ne peuv= ent pas non plus poser des objets sur leurs genoux durant cette p=E9riode, comm= e des draps ou des oreillers. Cette mesure est appliqu=E9e de fa=E7on al=E9at= oire. Il n'y a plus de t=E9l=E9vision en direct sur les vols du Canada aux =C9tat= s-Unis. Pour une dur=E9e ind=E9termin=E9e, les voyageurs se rendant aux =C9tats-Uni= s par avion doivent se soumettre =E0 des r=E8gles tr=E8s strictes. Les personnes = allant ailleurs qu'aux =C9tats-Unis ne sont pas soumises =E0 ces r=E8gles. On 12/28/09, Jim Goodin wrote: > > I only have domestic experience but have quite a bit of that. In recent > years I've been traveling with 2 to 3 instruments plus some form of > gear/laptop bag. In years past I have gotten stressed out either trying = to > get more on the plane or worried about my oud or violin getting hammered = by > somebody's roller case in the overhead. For the last two trips I've just > let go, paid the extra bags fees and taken minimal on the plane, this las= t > trip to CA (Virgin Atlantic which was another nightmare story) just took > laptop bag and violin on the flight, checked my oud and guitar stashing m= ost > of my pedeal gear in the oud case and in many ways it was much less stres= s. > Due to birdstrike, canceled unexplained flights, having to miss a gig due > the former and checked instruments not coming in until the next day, > unfortunately these latter balanced out my lowered stress gained raising = the > level back to where it would have been normally. Twas an adventure. I w= ill > say knock on the proverbial wood I have yet to had an instrument damaged = by > the airlines though every time I check one I'm sure I'm going to open the > case and the headstock is going to wrecked but never has so far. > > I do think given the new scare in Detroit and the fellow in London that > things are only going to get more difficult as Zoe suggested. > > Jim > --00504502af0444038d047bddc539 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Erdem,

Writing from Canada, what I read this morning in the paper is that (fo= r an unspecified but perhaps limited time) carry on bags will be limited to= certain items only (max of one per passenger).=A0 You may bring on board: = a laptop bag, a camera bag, a handbag or a diaper bag.=A0 Backpacks and suc= h must be checked.=A0 It was always hard for me to bring my horn as carry o= n, I think it's now completely impossible...=A0

=A0

also, certain american carriers will not allow passengers to leave the= ir seat or hold objects on their knees one hour before landing.

=A0

Zoe's advice re: flight cases is the way to go.=A0 You can also ge= t a golfbag case like Douglas Yeo recommends for traveling with a trombone.= =A0 I know you're a guitarist, but your concerns may be similar to his:= http= ://www.yeodoug.com/resources/faq/faq_text/travel.html

=A0

original article in French follows,

Sylvain

=A0

PUBLICATION: Le Droit

DATE: 2009.12.29

SECTION: Actualit=E9s

PAGE: 2

WORD COUNT: 253

Plus de bagages =E0 bord

Les voyageurs se rendant aux =C9tats-Unis sont limit=E9s =E0 un seul &qu= ot; effet personnel " =E0 bord de l'appareil. Il doit s'agir d= 'un sac =E0 main, d'un =E9tui =E0 ordinateur, d'un sac =E0 couc= hes ou d'un =E9tui =E0 cam=E9ra. Tous les autres bagages, y compris les= petites valises =E0 roulettes et les sacs =E0 dos, doivent =EAtre enregist= r=E9s et d=E9pos=E9s dans la soute. " On essaie de limiter au strict m= inimum les effets apport=E9s dans l'avion. On permet par exemple d'= apporter des m=E9dicaments. Cette mesure est prise essentiellement pour acc= =E9l=E9rer les fouilles ", explique la porte-parole de Transports Cana= da, Lucie Vignola. Pour diminuer le d=E9sagr=E9ment de cette mesure, plusie= urs compagnies dont Air Canada et WestJet annulent temporairement les frais= d'exc=E9dent de bagages.=20
Tous les passagers ainsi que leur " effet personnel " sont sys= t=E9matiquement soumis =E0 une fouille personnelle d'abord =E0 un point= de contr=F4le de s=FBret=E9 =E0 l'a=E9roport, puis dans la zone d'= embarquement avant de monter =E0 bord.=20
Certaines compagnies a=E9riennes am=E9ricaines interdisent aux passagers= de se lever de leur si=E8ge une heure avant l'atterrissage. Les voyage= urs ne peuvent pas non plus poser des objets sur leurs genoux durant cette = p=E9riode, comme des draps ou des oreillers. Cette mesure est appliqu=E9e d= e fa=E7on al=E9atoire.=20
Il n'y a plus de t=E9l=E9vision en direct sur les vols du Canada aux= =C9tats-Unis.=20
Pour une dur=E9e ind=E9termin=E9e, les voyageurs se rendant aux =C9tats-= Unis par avion doivent se soumettre =E0 des r=E8gles tr=E8s strictes. Les p= ersonnes allant ailleurs qu'aux =C9tats-Unis ne sont pas soumises =E0 c= es r=E8gles.

=A0

On 12/28/09, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmu= sic@gmail.com> wrote:

I only have domestic experience but have quite a bit of that.=A0 In re= cent years I've been traveling with 2 to 3 instruments plus some form o= f gear/laptop bag.=A0 In years past I have gotten stressed out either tryin= g to get more on the plane or worried about my oud or violin getting hammer= ed by somebody's roller case in the overhead.=A0 For the last two trips= I've just let go, paid the extra bags fees and taken minimal on the pl= ane, this last trip to CA (Virgin Atlantic which was another nightmare stor= y) just took laptop bag and violin on the flight, checked my oud and guitar= stashing most of my pedeal gear in the oud case and in many ways it was mu= ch less stress.=A0 Due to birdstrike, canceled unexplained flights, having = to miss a gig due the former and checked instruments not coming in until th= e next day, unfortunately these latter balanced out my lowered stress gaine= d raising the level back to where it would have been normally.=A0 Twas an a= dventure.=A0 I will say knock on the proverbial wood I have yet to had an i= nstrument damaged by the airlines though every time I check one I'm sur= e I'm going to open the case and the headstock is going to wrecked but = never has so far.

=A0

I do think given the new scare in Detroit and the fellow in London tha= t things are only going to get more difficult as Zoe suggested.

=A0

Jim

--00504502af0444038d047bddc539-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 29 14:13:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD7C53BE77; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3kA46SxAJACQSYLVAIN.TROMBONEGMAIL.COM@feedreader.bounces.google.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0016364ed608be4609047bdea054@google.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:13:36 +0000 Subject: OT: The New Flight Security Rules, So Far [Air Travel] From: Syl To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ed608be45f3047bdea051 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:13:37 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ed608be45f3047bdea051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes More info on air travel to US Sent to you by Syl via Google Reader: The New Flight Security Rules, So Far [Air Travel] via Lifehacker by Kevin Purdy on 12/28/09 After an attempted explosive attack Friday on a U.S.-bound flight, air travel security tightened and rules were changed. No official procedures have been announced, but here's what fliers and news agencies are reporting as the seemingly new rules of flying. Photo by Joshua Davis. The first thing anyone flying needs to know is that there are no hard and fast rules put into place at this time, and what you read or hear about at one airport may not be the case at another. The Transportation Security Administration wrote in a press release that "These measures are designed to be unpredictable, so passengers should not expect to see the same thing everywhere." Most sources are reporting that the most stringent measures are implemented on flights entering the U.S. from foreign lands, including Canada. Air Canada posted on its web site that, during the last hour of a flight, travelers headed to the U.S. will have to remain seated, will not have access to their carry-on baggage, and cannot have anything on their laps. American Airlines posted on its own site that anyone flying into the U.S. should allow three hours for the entire boarding process. Passengers and carry-on items would be screened both at security checkpoints and at airline gates, according to the airline. What about domestic flights? As stated, the only predictable element is unpredictability. Gizmodo has posted audio recorded from a Jet Blue pre-flight announcement, indicating that the airline's notable seat-by-seat in-flight entertainment system would be shut down for a recent flight, along with in-flight Wi-Fi, presumably. In that post, and others, gadget-savvy readers and Twitter users have reported a range of restrictions and rules. Some flights have banned electronic usage during the first and final 30 minutes of a flight, not including takeoff and landing periods, and others have restricted usage for up to an hour before ascent and descent. Some fliers have experienced pat-down searches and more thorough bag checks, and most flights seem to require passengers to stay seated during the final portion of a flight, regardless of bathroom needs. The Times reports (at the link below) that while blankets and pillows were being banned from passengers' laps just before landing, that rule seems to have been softened and left up to each airline. Update: Gizmodo has posted the full text of a leaked TSA security directive, courtesy of the Boarding Area blog, that makes firm the ban on in-flight Wi-Fi, entertainment systems, and access to any and all carry-on luggage or devices one hour before landing. Have you flown since Friday's in-flight incident? What was your experience, and how much more time did your flight experience take? Help fill in the blanks for everybody in the comments. For Airline Passengers, Pat-Downs, Searches and Restroom Monitors [NYTimes.com] Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Lifehacker using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites --0016364ed608be45f3047bdea051 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More info on air travel to US

Sent to you by Syl via Google Reader:
=

The New Flight Security Rules, So Far [Air Travel]

via Lifehacker by Kevin Purdy on 12/28/09

After an attempted explosive attack Friday on = a U.S.-bound flight, air travel security tightened and rules were changed. = No official procedures have been announced, but here's what fliers and news= agencies are reporting as the seemingly new rules of flying.

Ph= oto by Joshua Davis.

The fir= st thing anyone flying needs to know is that there are no hard and fast rul= es put into place at this time, and what you read or hear about at one airp= ort may not be the case at another. The Transportation Security Administrat= ion wrote in a press release that "These measures are designed to be unpr= edictable, so passengers should not expect to see the same thing everywhere= ."

Most sources are reporting that the most stringent measures are i= mplemented on flights entering the U.S. from foreign lands, including Canad= a. Air Canada posted on its web site that, during the last hour of a flight, t= ravelers headed to the U.S. will have to remain seated, will not have acces= s to their carry-on baggage, and cannot have anything on their laps.
American Airlines posted on its own site that anyone flying into th= e U.S. should allow three hours for the entire boarding process. Passengers= and carry-on items would be screened both at security checkpoints and at a= irline gates, according to the airline.

What about domestic flights?= As stated, the only predictable element is unpredictability. Gizmodo has <= a href=3D"http://gizmodo.com/5435117/the-unofficial-guide-to-flying-after-t= he-underwear-bomb">posted audio recorded from a Jet Blue pre-flight announc= ement, indicating that the airline's notable seat-by-seat in-flight ent= ertainment system would be shut down for a recent flight, along with in-fli= ght Wi-Fi, presumably. In that post, and others,= gadget-savvy readers and Twitter users have reported a range of restrictio= ns and rules.

Some flights have banned electronic usage during the f= irst and final 30 minutes of a flight, not including takeoff and landing pe= riods, and others have restricted usage for up to an hour before ascent and= descent. Some fliers have experienced pat-down searches and more thorough = bag checks, and most flights seem to require passengers to stay seated duri= ng the final portion of a flight, regardless of bathroom needs. The Times r= eports (at the link below) that while blankets and pillows were being banne= d from passengers' laps just before landing, that rule seems to have been s= oftened and left up to each airline.

Update: Gizmodo has posted the full text of a leaked TSA security direct= ive, courtesy of the Boarding Area blog, that makes firm the ban on in-flight Wi-Fi, ent= ertainment systems, and access to any and all carry-on luggage or devices o= ne hour before landing.

Have you flown since Friday's in-flight inci= dent? What was your experience, and how much more time did your flight expe= rience take? Help fill in the blanks for everybody in the comments.
For A= irline Passengers, Pat-Downs, Searches and Restroom Monitors [NYTimes.c= om]

<= /a>

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--0016364ed608be45f3047bdea051-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 29 17:55:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3A863BE71; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 311 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:55:29 UTC Message-Id: <44E237F7-5A08-4393-930B-4B8913C61F15@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0016364ed608be4609047bdea054@google.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-333972415 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: The New Flight Security Rules, So Far [Air Travel] Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:50:13 -0800 References: <0016364ed608be4609047bdea054@google.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 9f924001-f4a2-11de-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdUfT4bDBpo UEhAUlNVHgBoCx0H SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQZ OhEhYDUGYG9gbWhR UUJRdwUaeVVDfBtF alFiAndcY3gGZy41 Wl9rNWF0ZW0FcnoJ GgtdfQkfV3wGTHYb e0JKITUiVWsIWG0d Kx0pKkJUJ0saL18z LUppY08cPgRWQjZZ V29EGmdqDlgbDxYx BB1XWXt2 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:55:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-333972415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ironically, I flew out of Seattle on Saturday the 26th. during screening the TSA flagged my half-empty water bottle, so I drank it....but on the plane I discovered a Leatherman tool in a small pocket of my bag. it had probably been in there, undetected on several flights, for about a year. On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Syl wrote: > More info on air travel to US > > > > Sent to you by Syl via Google Reader: > > > The New Flight Security Rules, So Far [Air Travel] > via Lifehacker by Kevin Purdy on 12/28/09 > After an attempted explosive attack Friday on a U.S.-bound flight, > air travel security tightened and rules were changed. No official > procedures have been announced, but here's what fliers and news > agencies are reporting as the seemingly new rules of flying. > > Photo by Joshua Davis. > > The first thing anyone flying needs to know is that there are no > hard and fast rules put into place at this time, and what you read > or hear about at one airport may not be the case at another. The > Transportation Security Administration wrote in a press release that > "These measures are designed to be unpredictable, so passengers > should not expect to see the same thing everywhere." > > Most sources are reporting that the most stringent measures are > implemented on flights entering the U.S. from foreign lands, > including Canada. Air Canada posted on its web site that, during the > last hour of a flight, travelers headed to the U.S. will have to > remain seated, will not have access to their carry-on baggage, and > cannot have anything on their laps. > > American Airlines posted on its own site that anyone flying into the > U.S. should allow three hours for the entire boarding process. > Passengers and carry-on items would be screened both at security > checkpoints and at airline gates, according to the airline. > > What about domestic flights? As stated, the only predictable element > is unpredictability. Gizmodo has posted audio recorded from a Jet > Blue pre-flight announcement, indicating that the airline's notable > seat-by-seat in-flight entertainment system would be shut down for a > recent flight, along with in-flight Wi-Fi, presumably. In that post, > and others, gadget-savvy readers and Twitter users have reported a > range of restrictions and rules. > > Some flights have banned electronic usage during the first and final > 30 minutes of a flight, not including takeoff and landing periods, > and others have restricted usage for up to an hour before ascent and > descent. Some fliers have experienced pat-down searches and more > thorough bag checks, and most flights seem to require passengers to > stay seated during the final portion of a flight, regardless of > bathroom needs. The Times reports (at the link below) that while > blankets and pillows were being banned from passengers' laps just > before landing, that rule seems to have been softened and left up to > each airline. > > Update: Gizmodo has posted the full text of a leaked TSA security > directive, courtesy of the Boarding Area blog, that makes firm the > ban on in-flight Wi-Fi, entertainment systems, and access to any and > all carry-on luggage or devices one hour before landing. > > Have you flown since Friday's in-flight incident? What was your > experience, and how much more time did your flight experience take? > Help fill in the blanks for everybody in the comments. > > For Airline Passengers, Pat-Downs, Searches and Restroom Monitors > [NYTimes.com] > > > > > > > > > Things you can do from here: > Subscribe to Lifehacker using Google Reader > Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your > favorite sites > > --Apple-Mail-1-333972415 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ironically, I flew out of = Seattle on Saturday the 26th. during screening the TSA flagged my = half-empty water bottle, so I drank it....but on the plane I discovered = a Leatherman tool in a small pocket of my bag. it had probably been in = there, undetected on several flights, for about a = year.

On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Syl wrote:

More info = on air travel to US

Sent to you by Syl via Google = Reader:

The New Flight Security Rules, So Far [Air = Travel]

via Lifehacker by Kevin Purdy = on 12/28/09

After an attempted explosive attack Friday on a = U.S.-bound flight, air travel security tightened and rules were changed. = No official procedures have been announced, but here's what fliers and = news agencies are reporting as the seemingly new rules of = flying.
Photo by Joshua = Davis.
The first thing anyone flying needs to know is = that there are no hard and fast rules put into place at this time, and = what you read or hear about at one airport may not be the case at = another. The Transportation Security Administration wrot= e in a press release that "These measures are designed to be = unpredictable, so passengers should not expect to see the same thing = everywhere."
Most sources are reporting that the most stringent = measures are implemented on flights entering the U.S. from foreign = lands, including Canada. Air Canada posted = on its web site that, during the last hour of a flight, travelers = headed to the U.S. will have to remain seated, will not have access to = their carry-on baggage, and cannot have anything on their = laps.
American Airlines posted on its own site that anyone flying into the U.S. should = allow three hours for the entire boarding process. Passengers and = carry-on items would be screened both at security checkpoints and at = airline gates, according to the airline.
What about domestic = flights? As stated, the only predictable element is unpredictability. = Gizmodo has posted audio recorded from a Jet Blue pre-flight = announcement, indicating that the airline's notable seat-by-seat = in-flight entertainment system would be shut down for a recent flight, = along with in-flight Wi-Fi, presumably. In that post, and others, gadget-savvy readers and Twitter users = have reported a range of restrictions and rules.
Some flights have = banned electronic usage during the first and final 30 minutes of a = flight, not including takeoff and landing periods, and others have = restricted usage for up to an hour before ascent and descent. Some = fliers have experienced pat-down searches and more thorough bag checks, = and most flights seem to require passengers to stay seated during the = final portion of a flight, regardless of bathroom needs. The Times = reports (at the link below) that while blankets and pillows were being = banned from passengers' laps just before landing, that rule seems to = have been softened and left up to each airline.
Update: = Gizmodo has posted the full text of a leaked TSA security = directive, courtesy of the Boarding Area = blog, that makes firm the ban on in-flight Wi-Fi, entertainment systems, = and access to any and all carry-on luggage or devices one hour before = landing.
Have you flown since Friday's in-flight incident? What = was your experience, and how much more time did your flight experience = take? Help fill in the blanks for everybody in the comments.

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= --Apple-Mail-1-333972415-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 29 18:08:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3594E3BE7C; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 396 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:08:11 UTC Message-Id: <51146941-634A-4F8C-931B-B48EA2C39CDE@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <44E237F7-5A08-4393-930B-4B8913C61F15@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-334648778 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: The New Flight Security Rules, So Far [Air Travel] Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:01:30 -0800 References: <0016364ed608be4609047bdea054@google.com> <44E237F7-5A08-4393-930B-4B8913C61F15@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 327e8968-f4a4-11de-80b9-0022640b883e X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdUfT4bDBpo UEhAUlNaHgVpCx8D SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzQZ O08xFD4GY2JgYGdR UUZbdk1XcgQfdhZD Yk0pUCIJfGQGMi99 T1c5bnVpZW8FdngN SFFddl8Ee0tZVhkA FVg+HThnO0AaDws3 LhMmNhYnEU0MKEQu IBMbRFYVKFtaMQoW MUhXSBxwJkNJezAi Ew5eaCYA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1015:706/Kp X-AuthFastPath: 255 X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:08:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-334648778 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit in the NYTimes today re: carryons "Transport Canada said Monday that passengers may only carry medical devices, small purses, cameras, laptop computers, canes, walkers, diaper bags, musical instruments and bags containing ''life-sustaining items.'' --Apple-Mail-2-334648778 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit in the NYTimes today re: carryons

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Ms Joyce Hall Financial officer United Nations.. http://www.unorg/sg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 29 18:32:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B93B3BE77; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=faI/T/SqvlVltUFx9AalncCFUd9M1VHqSWrVarDOR4s=; b=Ey7FJy7B9JAreRhHpSGvVipg7lqta+5/Z46731+W9lGBANZXnu6n0iKgCRhjP5GHL7 uAvVuowQjO/4xC6Uv5TqsEBECLgSd8Ia9r+ujg5HmgX0CiC4LRM0BTMLjbpmUWGH1OBU 73Va4bb+ee3Ty3Ylca18i/kuyQ2hqV1KtyjLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ENFCRWAwSCitCnD5Tca3pQgfw+ASX/UNDOyKX36+4cBtQBZ/IwoEeH0She0APcziu1 HTk6TC6QSYjDCU5JaPbUefr5xshMQ4oc5FS7WNV1G8zlcqFt4/fMfrWXr2vLSEajchlz pt9oqkXx4kqaqYBbZflCVPcGlB3R/LM5aI41s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51146941-634A-4F8C-931B-B48EA2C39CDE@zoekeating.com> References: <0016364ed608be4609047bdea054@google.com> <44E237F7-5A08-4393-930B-4B8913C61F15@zoekeating.com> <51146941-634A-4F8C-931B-B48EA2C39CDE@zoekeating.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:32:49 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90912291032r4ff6b8d0g327598b028bd44fe@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: The New Flight Security Rules, So Far [Air Travel] From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e904c8caee2c047be23f0c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:32:51 +0000 (UTC) --001636e904c8caee2c047be23f0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hooray! On 12/29/09, Zoe Keating wrote: > > in the NYTimes today re: carryons > > > > > > > "Transport Canada said Monday that passengers may only carry medical > devices, small purses, cameras, laptop computers, canes, walkers, diaper > bags, musical instruments and bags containing ''life-sustaining items.'' > --001636e904c8caee2c047be23f0c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001636e904c8caee2c047be23f0c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 29 20:27:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA04D3BE75; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e8c7eb21-d87b-4dda-8cc2-dd6029675ecb_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OREGON LOOPERS - Next Steps / Misc. Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:27:23 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7FD4AF7E-1175-4735-9CF5-02F34CE1C358@gmail.com> References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <2235474A-C4D5-4D52-A9C5-C49CF015DBE6@ubergadget.com> <4B381E14.7020504@googlemail.com> ,<7FD4AF7E-1175-4735-9CF5-02F34CE1C358@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2009 20:27:23.0700 (UTC) FILETIME=[54419740:01CA88C5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:27:24 +0000 (UTC) --_e8c7eb21-d87b-4dda-8cc2-dd6029675ecb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let's go ahead and try to work this out ---I think we should for the sake o= f our fellow loopers in other regions get this on FB or something.=20 If any/everyone wants to send me e-mails I'll arrange a FB setting and get = us all together. I think a little roving show would be sweet. And=2C yes=2C= our northern brothers/sisters can join in. Maybe we could get Rick up here= =2C too. I might be able to finance that if he'd join us. J.D.Devros deafrose58 =20 > From: thedarrow@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS - Next Steps / Misc. > Date: Mon=2C 28 Dec 2009 05:15:22 -0800 >=20 >=20 > Well all-righty then! Sounds like we have a party. Answering some=20 > points I remember from the last several posts: >=20 > > Should take off list at some point. > > Loopers from outside Oregon >=20 > I'll make a "North West Loopers" yahoo group or gmail group or=20 > facebook or some such some time this week. Just email me off line if=20 > you have a preference. Can be used for gig spam too so we can see what=20 > we're all doing. >=20 > > What are we waiting for? >=20 > For myself=2C I'm waiting to get my skills back. I think I was first on=20 > this list in '96 too=2C actually=2C under soundcolor@yahoo.com . But like= =20 > I said=2C I took a break and am putting the finishing touches a whole=20 > new way of working that=2C once I get to it=2C will be ultra cool. I can= =20 > feel this beast will finally be tamed here pretty soon but then once=20 > the workflow really works I have to get my actual looping chops back.=20 > So=2C 2nd quarter of 2010 is my goal. >=20 > However=2C I'd love to do a short=2C non complicated thing with just an=20 > iphone and my EDP before I sell it. I could do that on short notice.=20 > It would be surprisingly not bad musically and hilarious as a concept=20 > piece. >=20 > > Day of week for show >=20 > For a first run=2C perhaps a Thursday? Close enough to the weekend to=20 > matter but not on the weekend so as not to be blown out of the water=20 > by other going's on. >=20 > > David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs=20 > anymore - > > concentrating mostly on visual art. >=20 > I'd be interested to know what he's up to. I have live video as part=20 > of my deal too=2C ultimately... I either need a 2nd laptop or a new=20 > supped up Macbook pro to bring both out at once in a live setting. >=20 > > We should hang out sometime=2C have a drink=2C play some pool=2C and ta= lk=20 > gear/technique/music/etc. >=20 > Oh=2C wait=2C that's not a quote. Okay=2C well then I'm saying it! I live= in=20 > the Alberta Arts district of Portland. 21st and Alberta. 503.327.9329=20 > and I'll see email sent to soundcolor@yahoo.com much faster---I miss=20 > things on this list email. Ping me sometime if you like and we'll kick=20 > it loop style. We'll kick it loop style. We'll kick it loop style.=20 > We'll kick it loop... We'll kick it... We'll kick... (woops...=20 > feedback pedal was up again.) >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/= --_e8c7eb21-d87b-4dda-8cc2-dd6029675ecb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let's go ahead and try to work this out ---I think we should for the sake o= f our fellow loopers in other regions get this on FB or something.
If any/everyone wants to send me e-mails I'll arrange a FB setting and get = us all together. I think a little roving show would be sweet. And=2C yes=2C= our northern brothers/sisters can join in. Maybe we could get Rick up here= =2C too. I might be able to finance that if he'd join =3Bus.
J.D.Devros
deafrose58
=3B
>=3B From: thedarrow@gmail.com
>=3B To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS - N= ext Steps / Misc.
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 28 Dec 2009 05:15:22 -0800
>= =3B
>=3B
>=3B Well all-righty then! Sounds like we have a party= . Answering some
>=3B points I remember from the last several posts:<= BR>>=3B
>=3B >=3B Should take off list at some point.
>=3B &= gt=3B Loopers from outside Oregon
>=3B
>=3B I'll make a "North W= est Loopers" yahoo group or gmail group or
>=3B facebook or some such= some time this week. Just email me off line if
>=3B you have a prefe= rence. Can be used for gig spam too so we can see what
>=3B we're all= doing.
>=3B
>=3B >=3B What are we waiting for?
>=3B
= >=3B For myself=2C I'm waiting to get my skills back. I think I was first= on
>=3B this list in '96 too=2C actually=2C under soundcolor@yahoo.c= om . But like
>=3B I said=2C I took a break and am putting the finish= ing touches a whole
>=3B new way of working that=2C once I get to it= =2C will be ultra cool. I can
>=3B feel this beast will finally be ta= med here pretty soon but then once
>=3B the workflow really works I h= ave to get my actual looping chops back.
>=3B So=2C 2nd quarter of 20= 10 is my goal.
>=3B
>=3B However=2C I'd love to do a short=2C no= n complicated thing with just an
>=3B iphone and my EDP before I sell= it. I could do that on short notice.
>=3B It would be surprisingly n= ot bad musically and hilarious as a concept
>=3B piece.
>=3B >=3B >=3B Day of week for show
>=3B
>=3B For a first run=2C= perhaps a Thursday? Close enough to the weekend to
>=3B matter but n= ot on the weekend so as not to be blown out of the water
>=3B by othe= r going's on.
>=3B
>=3B >=3B David Coffin (over on the Oregon = coast) not sure he performs
>=3B anymore -
>=3B >=3B concentra= ting mostly on visual art.
>=3B
>=3B I'd be interested to know w= hat he's up to. I have live video as part
>=3B of my deal too=2C ulti= mately... I either need a 2nd laptop or a new
>=3B supped up Macbook = pro to bring both out at once in a live setting.
>=3B
>=3B >= =3B We should hang out sometime=2C have a drink=2C play some pool=2C and ta= lk
>=3B gear/technique/music/etc.
>=3B
>=3B Oh=2C wait=2C = that's not a quote. Okay=2C well then I'm saying it! I live in
>=3B t= he Alberta Arts district of Portland. 21st and Alberta. 503.327.9329
&g= t=3B and I'll see email sent to soundcolor@yahoo.com much faster---I miss <= BR>>=3B things on this list email. Ping me sometime if you like and we'll= kick
>=3B it loop style. We'll kick it loop style. We'll kick it loo= p style.
>=3B We'll kick it loop... We'll kick it... We'll kick... (w= oops...
>=3B feedback pedal was up again.)
>=3B
>=3B
=
Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Micros= oft. Get it now. = --_e8c7eb21-d87b-4dda-8cc2-dd6029675ecb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Dec 29 20:40:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A0923BE78; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <3fa302e30912191231q423d8a9bvc8927adca89a9d88@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912200612x4b244398mb9dfdc0874843179@mail.gmail.com> <84109051-B3AC-4AB6-94F7-2CE6A8460F6B@gmail.com> <82C436F7-B13C-430E-AD8B-AABBB25AB7A0@charter.net> ,<90C7EC0F-8991-402E-8D1C-4A0061C66ED4@charter.net> <2235474A-C4D5-4D52-A9C5-C49CF015DBE6@ubergadget.com> <4B381E14.7020504@googlemail.com> ,<7FD4AF7E-1175-4735-9CF5-02F34CE1C358@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-344196101 Message-Id: <08D5AD83-3F97-4AD0-A605-BBCB8137E03F@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS - Next Steps / Misc. Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:40:37 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:40:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-344196101 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed For whatever it may be worth, I have an older (but in great working condition) Subaru station wagon that I can offer if needed to go pick up / deliver any stuff that might be needed, or pick up someone from out of town at the airport or train or bus station, and / or help to transport someone's gear if they are vehicle-less in Portland. I won't need to be reimbursed for any gasoline used. My "treat". :-) Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR On Dec 29, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Jeremy devros wrote: > Let's go ahead and try to work this out ---I think we should for > the sake of our fellow loopers in other regions get this on FB or > something. > If any/everyone wants to send me e-mails I'll arrange a FB setting > and get us all together. I think a little roving show would be > sweet. And, yes, our northern brothers/sisters can join in. Maybe > we could get Rick up here, too. I might be able to finance that if > he'd join us. > J.D.Devros > deafrose58 > > > From: thedarrow@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS - Next Steps / Misc. > > Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:15:22 -0800 > > > > > > Well all-righty then! Sounds like we have a party. Answering some > > points I remember from the last several posts: > > > > > Should take off list at some point. > > > Loopers from outside Oregon > > > > I'll make a "North West Loopers" yahoo group or gmail group or > > facebook or some such some time this week. Just email me off line if > > you have a preference. Can be used for gig spam too so we can see > what > > we're all doing. > > > > > What are we waiting for? > > > > For myself, I'm waiting to get my skills back. I think I was > first on > > this list in '96 too, actually, under soundcolor@yahoo.com . But > like > > I said, I took a break and am putting the finishing touches a whole > > new way of working that, once I get to it, will be ultra cool. I can > > feel this beast will finally be tamed here pretty soon but then once > > the workflow really works I have to get my actual looping chops > back. > > So, 2nd quarter of 2010 is my goal. > > > > However, I'd love to do a short, non complicated thing with just an > > iphone and my EDP before I sell it. I could do that on short notice. > > It would be surprisingly not bad musically and hilarious as a > concept > > piece. > > > > > Day of week for show > > > > For a first run, perhaps a Thursday? Close enough to the weekend to > > matter but not on the weekend so as not to be blown out of the water > > by other going's on. > > > > > David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs > > anymore - > > > concentrating mostly on visual art. > > > > I'd be interested to know what he's up to. I have live video as part > > of my deal too, ultimately... I either need a 2nd laptop or a new > > supped up Macbook pro to bring both out at once in a live setting. > > > > > We should hang out sometime, have a drink, play some pool, and > talk > > gear/technique/music/etc. > > > > Oh, wait, that's not a quote. Okay, well then I'm saying it! I > live in > > the Alberta Arts district of Portland. 21st and Alberta. > 503.327.9329 > > and I'll see email sent to soundcolor@yahoo.com much faster---I miss > > things on this list email. Ping me sometime if you like and we'll > kick > > it loop style. We'll kick it loop style. We'll kick it loop style. > > We'll kick it loop... We'll kick it... We'll kick... (woops... > > feedback pedal was up again.) > > > > > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. --Apple-Mail-1-344196101 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII For whatever it may be worth, I have an older (but in great working = condition) Subaru station wagon that I can offer if needed to go pick up = / deliver any stuff that might be needed,
or pick up someone = from out of town at the airport or train or bus station, and / or help = to transport someone's gear if they are vehicle-less in Portland. I = won't need to be reimbursed for any gasoline used. My "treat". = :-)

Cheers,
Rev. = Fever
Portland,OR

On Dec = 29, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Jeremy devros wrote:

Let's go ahead and try = to work this out ---I think we should for the sake of our fellow loopers = in other regions get this on FB or something.
If any/everyone wants = to send me e-mails I'll arrange a FB setting and get us all together. I = think a little roving show would be sweet. And, yes, our northern = brothers/sisters can join in. Maybe we could get Rick up here, too. I = might be able to finance that if he'd = join us.
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

> From: thedarrow@gmail.com
> To: = Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> Subject: Re: OREGON LOOPERS - Next Steps / = Misc.
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:15:22 -0800
>
>
> Well all-righty = then! Sounds like we have a party. Answering some
> points I remember = from the last several posts:
>
> > Should take = off list at some point.
> > Loopers from outside = Oregon
>
> = I'll make a "North West Loopers" yahoo group or gmail group or
> facebook or some = such some time this week. Just email me off line if
> you have a = preference. Can be used for gig spam too so we can see what
> we're all = doing.
>
> = > What are we waiting for?
>
> For myself, I'm = waiting to get my skills back. I think I was first on
> this list in '96 = too, actually, under soundcolor@yahoo.com . But = like
> I said, = I took a break and am putting the finishing touches a whole
> new way of working = that, once I get to it, will be ultra cool. I can
> feel this beast = will finally be tamed here pretty soon but then once
> the workflow = really works I have to get my actual looping chops back.
> So, 2nd quarter of = 2010 is my goal.
>
> However, I'd love = to do a short, non complicated thing with just an
> iphone and my EDP = before I sell it. I could do that on short notice.
> It would be = surprisingly not bad musically and hilarious as a concept
> = piece.
>
> = > Day of week for show
>
> For a first run, = perhaps a Thursday? Close enough to the weekend to
> matter but not on = the weekend so as not to be blown out of the water
> by other going's = on.
>
> = > David Coffin (over on the Oregon coast) not sure he performs
> anymore -
> = > concentrating mostly on visual art.
>
> I'd be interested = to know what he's up to. I have live video as part
> of my deal too, = ultimately... I either need a 2nd laptop or a new
> supped up Macbook = pro to bring both out at once in a live setting.
>
> > We should = hang out sometime, have a drink, play some pool, and talk
> = gear/technique/music/etc.
>
> Oh, wait, that's = not a quote. Okay, well then I'm saying it! I live in
> the Alberta Arts = district of Portland. 21st and Alberta. 503.327.9329
> and I'll see email = sent to soundcolor@yahoo.com = much faster---I miss
> things on this = list email. Ping me sometime if you like and we'll kick
> it loop style. = We'll kick it loop style. We'll kick it loop style.
> We'll kick it = loop... We'll kick it... We'll kick... (woops...
> feedback pedal was = up again.)
>
>

Hotmail: = Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it = now.

= --Apple-Mail-1-344196101-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 03:07:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DDF63BE75; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 479 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:07:48 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bae8c8fe-0d96-4a37-962f-b3506b9990e6_" X-Originating-IP: [68.147.61.241] From: Myke Atkinson To: Subject: EHX 2880 Users: Software Upgrade 2.0 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:59:47 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2009 02:59:48.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[25F2DD90:01CA88FC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:07:48 +0000 (UTC) --_bae8c8fe-0d96-4a37-962f-b3506b9990e6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello loopers using Electro Harmonix's 2880! I've been thinking a lot about possible upgrades to the 2880's internal sof= tware to propose to EHX for a version 2.0=2C and I'm hoping to get some inp= ut from other 2880 users out there to make sure this update is primo. I've = started some threads on the EHX forums here: http://www.ehx.com/forums/view= forum/7/ If you could spare a couple minutes of your time=2C and a couple of your id= eas=2C that would be super appreciated. Thanks! -Myke =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you=92re up to on= Facebook. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9691816= --_bae8c8fe-0d96-4a37-962f-b3506b9990e6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello loopers using Electro Harmonix's 2880!

I've been thinking a lo= t about possible upgrades to the 2880's internal software to propose to EHX= for a version 2.0=2C and I'm hoping to get some input from other 2880 user= s out there to make sure this update is primo. I've started some threads on= the EHX forums here: http://www.ehx.com/forums/viewforum/7/

If you = could spare a couple minutes of your time=2C and a couple of your ideas=2C = that would be super appreciated.

Thanks!

-Myke
=
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The main changes I would love to see are for more = individual control of tracks. Mute, Reverse, Octave ( I like the idea of = up or down), the ability to set loop length independently, and my most = desired feature: feedback control over all tracks even when not = recording on them or even when they are muted.=20 I would also like to be able to tap in new loop length at least when in = overdub mode. The DD 20 does this but it is a delay not a phrase sampler = or at least I only use it in delay mode. I don't want to stir up = problems with the definition of a phrase sampler vs delay :( One other thing is that reverse on the 2880 just doesn't sound as good = as the reverse on the old 16 sec delay to me...I don't know why that is. = might be just me although others have mentioned it I believe. Really I never use punch in or would probably not use undo. I have no = need of midi sync and I always play with it un-quantized in an attempt = to make it seem more "delay" like rather than phrase sampler like. One = other thing I wish I could change on it is when ending the recording of = a loop with pressing New Loop, it always switches to the next two = tracks, I play in stereo mostly. This is a slight problem because I = don't use the others much because of the feedback issue. I play more of = an evolving, everchanging sort of delay loop thing so I need to be = having loops fading as I add more. With your proposed features I could = really expand my use of it. Right now I use a Boss DD 20 right before = the 2880 and just deal with the limitations in both units. They are both = really close to what I want in many ways. If you need me to sign a petition you have my vote! =20 BTW, it seems some of these feature are availiable via midi although I = have never tried it. Have you read the info in the software upgrade 1.5? If you haven't I will send it to you off list. best, Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Myke Atkinson=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: EHX 2880 Users: Software Upgrade 2.0 Hello loopers using Electro Harmonix's 2880! I've been thinking a lot about possible upgrades to the 2880's = internal software to propose to EHX for a version 2.0, and I'm hoping to = get some input from other 2880 users out there to make sure this update = is primo. I've started some threads on the EHX forums here: = http://www.ehx.com/forums/viewforum/7/ If you could spare a couple minutes of your time, and a couple of your = ideas, that would be super appreciated. Thanks! -Myke -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you=92re up = to on Facebook. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CA88DB.29E10AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Myke,

I read your posts on the forum and have to say = you nailed=20 it for me on some of them. The main changes I would love to see are = for=20 more individual control of tracks. Mute, Reverse, Octave ( I like the = idea of up=20 or down), the ability to set loop length independently, and my most = desired=20 feature: feedback control over all tracks even when not recording on = them or=20 even when they are muted.

I would also like to be able to tap in new loop = length at=20 least when in overdub mode. The DD 20 does this but it is a delay not a = phrase=20 sampler or at least I only use it in delay mode. I don't want to = stir up=20 problems with the definition of a phrase sampler vs delay = :(

One other thing is that reverse on the = 2880 just=20 doesn't sound as good as the reverse on the old 16 sec delay to me...I = don't=20 know why that is. might be just me although others have mentioned = it I=20 believe.

Really I never use punch in or would probably = not use=20 undo. I have no need of midi sync and I always play with it un-quantized = in an=20 attempt to make it seem more "delay" like rather than phrase sampler = like. One=20 other thing I wish I could change on it is when ending the = recording of a=20 loop with pressing New Loop, it always switches to the next two tracks, = I play=20 in stereo mostly. This is a slight problem because I don't use the = others much=20 because of the feedback issue. I play more of an evolving, everchanging = sort of=20 delay loop thing so I need to be having loops fading as I add more. With = your=20 proposed features I could really expand my use of it. Right now I = use a=20 Boss DD 20 right before the 2880 and just deal with the limitations in = both=20 units. They are both really close to what I want in many = ways.

If you need me to sign a petition you have my=20 vote!

BTW, it seems some of these feature are = availiable via=20 midi although I have never tried it. Have you read the info in the = software=20 upgrade 1.5?

If you haven't I will send it to you off=20 list.

best,

Jeff

http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/<= BR>http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke<= /FONT>

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Myke=20 Atkinson

To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, = 2009 9:59=20 PM

Subject: EHX 2880 Users: = Software Upgrade=20 2.0

Hello loopers using Electro Harmonix's = 2880!

I've been=20 thinking a lot about possible upgrades to the 2880's internal software = to=20 propose to EHX for a version 2.0, and I'm hoping to get some input = from other=20 2880 users out there to make sure this update is primo. I've started = some=20 threads on the EHX forums here: http://www.ehx.com/forums= /viewforum/7/

If=20 you could spare a couple minutes of your time, and a couple of your = ideas,=20 that would be super appreciated.

Thanks!

-Myke

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I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. = ; In a nutshell it goes like this,
=0A

=0A=0A
"...people can h= andle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video."=
=0A

=0ADo you agree? Have any of you added video to your loopin= g music and discovered it helped increase sales?
=0A
&nb= sp;
=0A
Kind regards,
=0A
=0A
UNDO
=0A
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=0A=0A=0A=0A = --0-626480675-1262148049=:47996-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 04:52:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D11093BE77; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262148722; bh=x3uMIVYe1Pc3Qc2u+W6ifMaOCPW015wBvAwYnV897p8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bNS4tAjnnkWWM4Tg9D+aP1EDz37rV2hdZl2sFWcQMeb6RcFYP4b6nmkYYlU8ecTtI01LCzsVuXhrg4HH434YA3Qyvx4hwb4mTShaO4gTa93HrwmIlxOchwRi27fASlpZBmZguY9ryV7XNzCnC653vNXhh08rtI0jvZ3hL/w0Zoc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fNGIRG2cN9FQJbEXmJ0F2oQRlhoYzv5U6seJSSWfa5UMCBBN56KHvaHXK4e3ojpdgu5OTNoTkpoNTBoB8ZnRGYC0S3U7xSWF4zIm1FNZzUnzhutcEH49YAWxZ3T+FzCBjcPJYnIFpSrKG6KMslBujdD8EcvyJRfKkpMosKbyVEU=; Message-ID: <999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ud1GYlUVM1ndZAr1XzEYaOlq99YcYxHzxAK7WPHHtcTj5oW2tjWEYlfgSsD_BG3k07X3PFMY3.buqXwWHjU6C.z50iE2o3oJ7LOj6F82iaigFd6Ucu2HqxX0hANQ8ita4zL6oepy2Hsce9qbvjmr6s5OhesAMwilpJcPx4Mjlkmwflw2ZiF0qPrcdfVcNOvBcKPEoy9JDCibvIkxZa4XmgdAhF.yVtQbI93z5oO2aLHId3g7a719j807JEGR7dlLUSpjm9J1JpK.9hCAGO9EB92YJV1lhJNExxVt7Ab7YYju4JWE4.SIils.96csU_dgRhTL5SDhQHqc64D.m3TIKQBK0CBD_aOS6o0CDXeMA0pRVgpq.jYKVNPRCRLw7HQVH5JnZhbXzIjCQztG7SuH7.a_uFl2BtZ.8i6gmXyaE9A5e4q3Ad7_waZrrBGTdMKpHBMADRMY.6mF6GOdnFciuOOZDjj1EVq_nr8ry7RUvWPs_MGGDJA2WzNhWWJ56dVjoPziLfEuBn_kz41.qa7N03HhNTEPdjMvgYHP4aPjft_oe8.ytVxJUjx84n14Pt7l93jsvdMgGBsoaavV9A.YQGq0GRPqE_xuLjB2PpXSgQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:52:01 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-646778551-1262148721=:7852" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:52:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-646778551-1262148721=:7852 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have some strong thoughts on this because whenever I play there is always the pressure to carry the work with visuals. But often, I fear this results in fluff and is sometimes distracting from the sound experience. For me, adding visuals takes away from the imaginative experience that can come from sound. Visuals dictate what a listener takes in and they might have another interpretation if they are allowed to let their minds wander. Margaret Noble - Sound Artist Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart Upcoming Concert Series - http://freshsoundmusic.com New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/ ________________________________ From: david kirkdorffer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:40:49 PM Subject: videos and music and music sales I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes like this, "...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video." > Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and discovered it helped increase sales? Kind regards, UNDO http://www.myspace.com/undomusic --0-646778551-1262148721=:7852 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have some strong thoughts on this because whenever I play there is always the pressure to carry the work with visuals. But often, I fear this results in fluff and is sometimes distracting from the sound experience. For me, adding visuals takes away from the imaginative experience that can come from sound. Visuals dictate what a listener takes in and they might have another interpretation if they are allowed to let their minds wander.

Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
Upcoming Concert Series - http://freshsoundmusic.com
New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/

From: david kirkdorffer <unstrungone@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:40:49 PM
Subject: videos and music and music sales

I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes like this,

"...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video."

Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and discovered it helped increase sales?

Kind regards,

UNDO

http://www.myspace.com/undomusic

--0-646778551-1262148721=:7852-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 04:59:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F8223BE77; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_esF1r+AYuDV3DcHeS721+A)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:59:05 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:59:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_esF1r+AYuDV3DcHeS721+A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT People can handle more challenging music if there are words draped across it. t ----- Original Message ----- From: david kirkdorffer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: videos and music and music sales I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes like this, "...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video." Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and discovered it helped increase sales? Kind regards, UNDO http://www.myspace.com/undomusic --Boundary_(ID_esF1r+AYuDV3DcHeS721+A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
People can handle more challenging music if there are words draped across it.

t

----- Original Message -----

From: david kirkdorffer

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:40 PM

Subject: videos and music and music sales

I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes like this,

"...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video."

Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and discovered it helped increase sales?

Kind regards,

UNDO

http://www.myspace.com/undomusic

--Boundary_(ID_esF1r+AYuDV3DcHeS721+A)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 05:01:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17B213BE75; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B3ADEAC.8030201@asyouthink.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:01:32 -0800 From: CM User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6kpMRB.A.y0D.u6tOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Can't say much about sales, but Philip Glass comes to mind, and the movie Koyaanisqatsi. Without the visuals, it's almost not the same music.

david kirkdorffer wrote:

I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes like this,

"...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video."

Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and discovered it helped increase sales?

Kind regards,

UNDO

http://www.myspace.com/undomusic

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 05:04:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F4803BE71; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0sK4aJoHRpxkSDGQo0XNqw)" Message-id: <6054C1F4DD7A4AB98555502BBF3BFD46@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <4B3ADEAC.8030201@asyouthink.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:04:00 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:04:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_0sK4aJoHRpxkSDGQo0XNqw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Here's the deal: People will continue to pay attention if there is a video running. t ----- Original Message ----- From: CM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales Can't say much about sales, but Philip Glass comes to mind, and the movie Koyaanisqatsi. Without the visuals, it's almost not the same music. david kirkdorffer wrote: I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes like this, "...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video." Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and discovered it helped increase sales? Kind regards, UNDO http://www.myspace.com/undomusic --Boundary_(ID_0sK4aJoHRpxkSDGQo0XNqw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Here's the deal: People will continue to pay attention if there is a video running.

t

----- Original Message -----

From: CM

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:01 PM

Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales

Can't say much about sales, but Philip Glass comes to mind, and the movie Koyaanisqatsi. Without the visuals, it's almost not the same music.

david kirkdorffer wrote:

I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes like this,

"...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video."

Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and discovered it helped increase sales?

Kind regards,

UNDO

http://www.myspace.com/undomusic

--Boundary_(ID_0sK4aJoHRpxkSDGQo0XNqw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 05:31:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C833BE73; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fb77e04e-7c64-4487-90d0-a61979d501a5_" X-Originating-IP: [75.121.15.115] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: videos and music and music sales Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:31:31 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,<999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2009 05:31:31.0864 (UTC) FILETIME=[58141180:01CA8911] Resent-Message-ID: <5xh0UC.A.L1E.1WuOLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:31:33 +0000 (UTC) --_fb77e04e-7c64-4487-90d0-a61979d501a5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ive been going through the same struggle lately >I have some strong thoughts on this because whenever I play there is alway= s the pressure to carry the work with visuals. But often=2C I fear this res= ults in fluff and is sometimes >distracting from the sound experience. For = me=2C adding visuals takes away from the imaginative experience that can co= me from sound. Visuals dictate what a listener takes in >and they might hav= e another interpretation if they are allowed to let their minds wander. =20 this is exactly how i feel about the matter - could not have put it any bet= ter - yet=2C i still struggle with the fact that without a video of the performan= ce=2C fewer people would truly understand it- but that's a personal struggl= e ill deal with as long as i am a looper.....or even a musician for that ma= tter. but at the end of the day=2C you can always do both- cheers! fro =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/= --_fb77e04e-7c64-4487-90d0-a61979d501a5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ive been going through the sa= me struggle lately

>=3BI have some strong thoughts on this because whenever I = play there is always the pressure to carry the work with visuals. But often= =2C I fear this results in fluff and is sometimes >=3Bdistracting from th= e sound experience. For me=2C adding visuals takes away from the imaginativ= e experience that can come from sound. Visuals dictate what a listener take= s in >=3Band they might have another interpretation if they are allowed t= o let their minds wander.
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this is exactly how i fee= l about the matter - could not have put it any better -
yet=2C i still struggle with the fact = that without a video of the performance=2C fewer people would truly underst= and it- but that's a personal struggle ill deal with as long as i am a loop= er.....or even a musician for that matter.

but at the end of the day=2C you can always do both-

<= font style=3D"font-size: 12pt=3B" size=3D"3">cheers!
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Hotmail: Trus= ted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. = --_fb77e04e-7c64-4487-90d0-a61979d501a5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 09:34:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 299493BE71; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ks6RHK9xrh11QfkL0qubkIMG5qWCe2/THe7rUFXNRGU=; b=mWhj8Ieffh/3FigtbX1MRrCjoXnAYGr4NY4cCXQSVxu6IJJ6le1h1j3pCbv02TUll7 o3t0C9hbQoTBXMNRCY18NfvwNGeeVX+6V1p21Cp8auNjhYOPJ6eHTBKSEUYqIcEikaK6 siRD9psrYGR7kVSb41zk8gQ6g/9cGP0hfx30k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WBkNTBAg5nHFe7RABHDvDJjELu7MsbWMW9TQ3kDQh0upJL151logPY66cj+hbj9J9g ICbJyiJOb/o+1c604GifSLVlJjWQ5DLQbvJ8m6TnrsLDhHygKq3xAElaSvbO7TzfSfS9 8XaiRYgolUHVzTN4ZvK6Ge+/lIw7lPHjv3l+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:34:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:34:47 +0000 (UTC) I don't think there's any single concrete element one can add to any type of music to make people accept it more. By concrete elements, I'm talking about things like video, audience participation, unusual instruments, cowbell, synth washes, drum machines, etc. Video in particular is often a distraction from the music, except in cases where the two were purposefully created together as a single work. My theory for musical success in any genre (myself being a relatively unsuccessful musician) goes something like this: --Develop a unique and clear musical persona. --Think about which elements of your performance highlight your musical persona, and which elements detract from it. --Consider that you have an audience, or at least a potential audience. When you play in public or create an album, it should be for your audience, rather than for yourself. --The audience wants to hear you, as you can best represent yourself. They don't necessarily want you to play things they've heard before or would expect from other musicians. --Lastly, dumb luck. The people who have the most success in any kind of music not only follow the above 3 steps, but their musical personas happen to be something that a lot of people want to listen to. And if you make "challenging" music, never describe it to people that way. Telling people, "Hey, let's listen to some challenging music" is like saying "Hey, let's do some calculus for fun!" You may get some takers, but they'll be the musical equivalent of math nerds. (And about as common as math nerds.) There are lots of people who liked Frank Zappa, Philip Glass, John Cage, John Zorn, Einsturzende Neubauten, The Residents, Nurse With Wound, etc long before they found out the music was supposed to be "challenging". -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 09:53:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AC493BE75; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Nyt1UJ4nUD8BL+TRvkngj54HSvAyT3AKigcokbG0C2Y=; b=c0bcIu0qjWvtmhtZkgh/XS+vVpfLwn4pn9HbBpuJSRCm4eytjlKl6yC7ew4LrSsPGp NF8Cto8olLmDerLeJef8np7ZDPSqgc4LOvkkZ8DfZW5KaIk/1IK0cW5Q1EGZYq3EKBL1 P8PygQZX5QLy3woI2q+qjfb3g7boEz3Ot00bY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=hJ/HOVf3Mj4aFTxhLl30lV9fY7xGZbddeCIXMNPDZ7gepQ/Lg3uPXx5mKPXQhC8fGw AnwUR/PDolGy8g2qgvKBXwn8OD2V/l5DAjMKc4YZnKKCE24Zs3vYcaB36rrJgLLBLoHS WDsmhvyceWWeDn2PV22okQDrR6qFfplLqwm30= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:53:31 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 56197b3b5d7c3782 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0912300153k639c5c54p24ac1b1d29ff3342@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c45c9e719c047bef1d7a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:53:52 +0000 (UTC) --00504502c45c9e719c047bef1d7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh come on.. whats all this bollocks about visuals taking away from the music.. What it does is takes the focus away from some slightly podgy balding muso twiddling knobs and staring at a laptop, cos it fits thankfull= y in a genre where one isnt expected to leap about and go "Hello Cleveland!" Lets face it, our music is pretty challenging, but we LOOK fucking boring!! If you are so serious a musician that you are worried that people won=B4t listen to your poly-rhythms quite right or hear your subtle overtones or contemplate the spiralling-morphic nature of the series of ever-intertwinin= g sound tones.. then you shouldnt be playing live at all... Of course visuals add something to the music, but the same can be said of Lights, dancing, beer, or a bad PA. Myself, I have done shows where the visuals were MADE by the music, Ive don= e shows where the singer was on video (My 80s bands technique actually, drum-machine left audio and singer right audio and video) Ive played along to old Black and White films, and my own films and Ive played films backwards... Unfortunately I cant seem to do much about fat tummy, the grey hair and I think my stage diving days at the end of the set days are sadly over... mark.. --00504502c45c9e719c047bef1d7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh come on.. whats all this bollocks about visuals taking away from the= music.. What it does is takes the focus away from some slightly podgy bald= ing muso twiddling knobs and staring at a laptop, cos it fits thankfully in= a genre where one isnt expected to leap about and go "Hello Cleveland= !"

Lets face it, our music is pretty challenging, but we LOOK fucking bori= ng!!
If you are so serious a musician that you are worried that people = won=B4t listen to your poly-rhythms quite right or hear your subtle overton= es or contemplate the spiralling-morphic nature of the series of ever-inter= twining sound tones.. then you shouldnt be playing live at all...

Of course visuals add something to the music, but the same can be said = of Lights, dancing, beer, or a bad PA.

Myself, I have done shows wh= ere the visuals were MADE by the music, Ive done shows where the singer was= on video (My 80s bands technique actually, drum-machine left audio and sin= ger right audio and video) Ive played along to old Black and White films, a= nd my own films and Ive played films backwards...

Unfortunately I cant seem to do much about fat tummy, the grey hair and= I think my stage diving days at the end of the set days are sadly over...<= br>
mark..

--00504502c45c9e719c047bef1d7a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 10:01:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E19A53BE78; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1262167299; l=4755; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=RYfY9Pwk7Lw91NXzcU28zIKA69k=; b=SwgRzdDZ7OzAOKEJ8RRN+CJIwNWG8AAEUqwnZXmpJkKbcIRVv8VIM+M2QSoFbpglS64 zoH64TDyxB8Nw+ZPDH1CO5AaEoE8x8AJKOJqtJ0iy3twDgT9o4Ga9rqIr3W1C3m1ZS62K hgqs+J78Y6lewe7uiZL5EGVEp/otmghS/Lw= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvumSDR1VBGg== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> From: To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:01:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E7_01CA893F.68E19680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:01:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01CA893F.68E19680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a = cool video." I agree to this statement. To be honest: It can be real boring to see = one guy (when it=B4s looping-music it=B4s usual that it=B4s only one = person) sitting on a chair making sounds for one hour or more. Unless = you are a good performer. Then it can work without videos. With adding visuals it=B4s more a multi media event that can be = thrilling. Especially in case of instrumental loop music it can be a big chance to = work together with visuals. By the way, check out my new short 1.30 minute-video with a soundtrack = of my new album "Klangwellen 1" www.myspace.com/christojota ----- Original Message -----=20 From: david kirkdorffer=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:40 AM Subject: videos and music and music sales I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a = nutshell it goes like this,=20 "...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by = a cool video." Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and = discovered it helped increase sales? Kind regards, UNDO http://www.myspace.com/undomusic=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01CA893F.68E19680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

"...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by = a cool=20 video."

I agree to this statement. To be honest: It can be real boring to = see one=20 guy (when it=B4s looping-music it=B4s usual that it=B4s only one person) = sitting on a=20 chair making sounds for one hour or more. Unless you are a good = performer. Then=20 it can work without videos.

With adding visuals it=B4s more a multi media event that can be=20 thrilling.

Especially in case of instrumental loop music it can be a big = chance=20 to work together with visuals.

By the way, check out my new short 1.30 minute-video with a = soundtrack of my new album "Klangwellen 1"

www.myspace.com/christojota

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 david=20 kirkdorffer

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, = 2009 5:40=20 AM

Subject: videos and music and = music=20 sales

I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this = list. In a=20 nutshell it goes like this,

"...people can handle more challenging music if = it's=20 accompanied by a cool video."

Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your = looping=20 music and discovered it helped increase sales?

Kind regards,

UNDO

http://www.myspace.com/undomusi= c=20

------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01CA893F.68E19680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 11:29:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BA923BE79; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:29:03 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales In-Reply-To: <999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091230112920.2475714E02@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:29:21 +0000 (UTC) I've never worked with video, but I sometimes do story telling as a way of setting the stage for people. I've spent many years thinking about this in all sorts of different settings and my conclusion is this. People have never been taught to listen to instrumental music. If it doesn't have words or images or some other key to tell them exactly what to envision; they are lost because few people have any imagination of their own. I was with an artist friend not to long ago at a gallery opening and was astonished to hear some woman ask the artist, "what am I supposed to see here, what do you want me to feel?" I tend to think that as more and more schools have dropped the arts from their curriculums we see more and more people that just don't understand, or worse are totally bewildered by the arts. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada At 11:52 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote: >I have some strong thoughts on this because whenever I play there is >always the pressure to carry the work with visuals. But often, I >fear this results in fluff and is sometimes distracting from the >sound experience. For me, adding visuals takes away from the >imaginative experience that can come from sound. Visuals dictate >what a listener takes in and they might have another interpretation >if they are allowed to let their minds wander. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 11:40:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB5CD3BE77; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Vipre-Scanned: 03B327700015D203B328BD-TDI Message-ID: <0280C4457CB649DFBB39CCA22CDD1944@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:39:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:40:02 +0000 (UTC) In advance I have to say that, I suppose there are a large variety of approaches to Content and Performance, and assume in advance that this is one zone in which we will tend to not agree with each other. Exchange of ideas continues to change ourselves nonetheless... One bit of memory knocked loose by this discussion: When rock acts started dressing up, and then went beyond that to light shows, video backdrops, auxiliary performers running round the audience like circus clowns, etc - at least in the 70s I recall that many of the pundits of the time derided such visual enhancements, often pointing to same as some kind of 'evidence' that the music itself must be lacking somehow, or otherwise below some arbitrary line dividing Art from Crap. I have the feeling that such faux hierarchical discrimination has been going on as long as there have been Art, and Art Pundits ("Too many notes" comes to mind). I am sure that there are acts that nearly require a light show due to the relative paucity of musical content, just as I am sure that there are acts that present themselves as a complete package of audio and video production/performance. I started using the good old Psychedelic Screen Saver as a visual enhancement waaay back in 1996, when playing houses in the LA area, because it reacted to the sound I was making in a manner I could control. I suppose if some enterprising soul had come forward to offer to make interactive video effects or an otherwise-termed light show, it would have been easier to implement; but I wouldn't have wanted the video to be more important than the music, while not wanting the video to appear piddlingly simple or something less than I thought it should be. I have never had anyone tell me that I should use a certain number of brushes, pens or pencils when producing visual art, and so how different (if not invalid) is it to try to do the same to music or music-video, or multimedia etc.? I find the current situation with video streaming to be exciting, as the natural, not-by-design constraints of the medium are still a major factor; working with them brings out the creative in us, and leads to all sorts of outgrowth and innovations. Me, I would just like a webcam edit-patch that overlays a pre-existing video with a degree of transparency (to distinguish from the already-available 'green screen' type methods used well for instance by Jeff Duke. One effect I hadn't planned on is that, having scheduled a daily show from 5-6pm gmt, a complete, undisturbed block of time now exists here into which even a phone call doesn't intrude. In the absence of a proper working studio and during the Christmas holidays, it has been an unplanned-for and nice surprise to me. Go ahead, say "Duh!". Labels continue to be used by big music companies to deride us independents: remember "bedroom musician"? It implied that we all still lived with our parents, ensconced away in our corner with a computer and a few instruments, like some sort of ineffectual geeks. I await the Big Five's new terminology to describe those of us who are composing, performing and publishing our own work, as well as using streaming video to do so. I wonder about the addressing of the Art we create, and whether we can keep listening to Les Paul's warning about not letting the technology control what you create, while still working with constraints that can potentially do just that. I look forward to much better than we have presently, especially considering what personal video/audio streaming WASN'T just a few years ago, and fully intend to investigate the role of a multimedia (for lack of a better term) artist in the future. Stephen Goodman "Twelve Days of Christmas Plus 1" at ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 * http://www.earthlight.tv http://www.ustream.tv/StephenGoodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman -------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Davignon" > I don't think there's any single concrete element one can add to any > type of music to make people accept it more. By concrete elements, I'm > talking about things like video, audience participation, unusual > instruments, cowbell, synth washes, drum machines, etc. > > Video in particular is often a distraction from the music, except in > cases where the two were purposefully created together as a single > work. > > My theory for musical success in any genre (myself being a relatively > unsuccessful musician) goes something like this: > --Develop a unique and clear musical persona. > --Think about which elements of your performance highlight your > musical persona, and which elements detract from it. > --Consider that you have an audience, or at least a potential > audience. When you play in public or create an album, it should be for > your audience, rather than for yourself. > --The audience wants to hear you, as you can best represent yourself. > They don't necessarily want you to play things they've heard before or > would expect from other musicians. > --Lastly, dumb luck. The people who have the most success in any kind > of music not only follow the above 3 steps, but their musical personas > happen to be something that a lot of people want to listen to. > > > And if you make "challenging" music, never describe it to people that > way. Telling people, "Hey, let's listen to some challenging music" is > like saying "Hey, let's do some calculus for fun!" You may get some > takers, but they'll be the musical equivalent of math nerds. (And > about as common as math nerds.) There are lots of people who liked > Frank Zappa, Philip Glass, John Cage, John Zorn, Einsturzende > Neubauten, The Residents, Nurse With Wound, etc long before they found > out the music was supposed to be "challenging". > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 11:50:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FA1C3BE75; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:52:15 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> In-Reply-To: <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi chris > To be honest: It can be real boring to see > one guy (when it�s looping-music it�s usual that it�s only one person) > sitting on a chair making sounds for one hour or more. Let me be honest: the most famous solo artist of whom I ever attended a concert was Gidon Kremer. For sure one of the best living violinists. I tell you: it was great to listen, but watching it was boring to death. But listening to Bach Sonatas and Partitas while I am sitting in a train and am watching the landscape flying by, is a always an uplifting experience for me. Yes: the for me the "video" is an enhancement to the music, which makes me like the music more. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 13:02:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4C8E3BE75; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dHRnzaACeIBbtDBZGCDm6O/S084yJ0EPHYju/a8AKOk=; b=j6Cf5RB/Gv22K29p92cZBfJYGHeWRdbtfUbgDzUxn6bn1hO7Tg95J/oTytJJBkca/C s/ACTskvgSEaWfWIF/xFBDbfCN+zYn+plZdb1HkDmSkAZTaPFUHtCdgl3h/9ITmFfyhu 8PyyUVPuFvXwpR2nDW//+8XcSpvios7h7D6Zc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZHWxb0NOLXqYqr6LUNqWzV4ydbWxXdT+t7VyMkiwKrrts1HkN58m7FUBiKkRti9h/+ BEYzEuZNrLosVgKiZxmSmQwmba7LY4buG2SDC44gT+MbRFnQXWOCJqnYnJUKxcFMtCDE uINrG/QA69DR3QuU6oY6RwIoMOuzBxdZpKnMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:02:01 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912300502q51da4bd4y566fffba62d39009@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:02:05 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:40 AM, david kirkdorffer wrote: > > "...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video." > > > Do you agree? Absolutely not! I think video used on those premises only makes people forget a little about how boring they find the music. :-) "Challenging" music is your definition, while it might just come out as "boring" to the listener. I think it can be a lot more interesting for the audience, and for you as the artist, if taking the full step and start doing MULTIMEDIA instead of playing back "a cool video" to the music performance. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 13:02:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B94533BE72; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=duebDjNZVo5TVEXh+QKMf8Ods7ooLX2kDfXOzE22AHw=; b=K/n5szXjYKVk8eh2DqHdbLL+RCCcWX5jMEzjsOqhRO3vWtKrNsbtY19K0Od8p+cnVV XPuAIs+g2ceBO2Y9i0/EcZfGNqaOZ6LpPlginFTODvTKxwgohz5yimA6HuT7C73P3S8p gZTRQSoErB4bpvpK7U8IqiHOtFxk+Zd2+LMX8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=GzvCgGiQHGxDAcNBWgbpt9Gz95IxrHKOrdVvgDH+Gy8xvmwaF9yc3Tg8MbDFlcw3kp KC1cuoxllSnOKIRHk8r2ocWyRgQ0+Oh7Jh/ZqrMtF+vov24DCLtuL7PPYXF5K9jn6MZw 0gp4fQK4oJ2z4lMEMt8WVVEtimFyDl8L1+WGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <0280C4457CB649DFBB39CCA22CDD1944@ELUK1> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <0280C4457CB649DFBB39CCA22CDD1944@ELUK1> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:02:14 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 38e6080ed2635496 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0912300502r6cbfee7aybbcb36798993e13e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151740156486253a047bf1c033 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:02:39 +0000 (UTC) --00151740156486253a047bf1c033 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Stephen Goodman wrote:When rock acts started dressing up, and then went beyond that to light shows, video backdrops, auxiliary performers running round the audience like circus clowns, etc - at least in the 70s I recall that many of the pundits of the time derided such visual enhancements, often pointing to same as some kind of 'evidence' that the music itself must be lacking somehow, or otherwise below some arbitrary line dividing Art from Crap. Sure.. I remember that well, being one of the teenagers with 3 chords, ripped jeans and a safety pin thru my nose... funnily enough though time has a new story to tell.. The music of..lets say YES... one of the biggest contenders for "Why punk needed to shake up the shit"... is now rather differently lauded. Given a whole chapter in a recent book on Noise music, and recently given a big article in Wire magazine. And also recently discussed on this list. I think that really the main augument at the time against these mega bands with big stage shows and light shows, were that they were irrelevant to the times... The UK and the US, were in a slump of poverty and unemployment and the "kids" (me) were angry and couldnt give a shit about Roger Dean album covers of Tolkeinesque landscapes... what prats.. we thought... But the music stands for itself now (no visuals to take away from the experience) and its wasnt so bad... just badly timed. Visuals have always been part of music, when Pil played behind a screen once, the stage was invaded by angry fans wanting to see something... The DJ culture we went through gave us the notion that we need not understand what that guy on stage is actually doing (and I often suspect - not much) but in my view anything goes as long as you arent miming or faking... and I kinda think that although we dont need to dress up in silver costumes and come out of spaceships and use laser harps and triple guitar necks... but sometimes i feel that, maybe, just maybe.. we should at least put a clean shirt on and use a coloured light or two?? -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00151740156486253a047bf1c033 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:When rock acts star= ted dressing up, and then went beyond that to light shows, video backdrops,= auxiliary performers running round the audience like circus clowns, etc - = at least in the 70s I recall that many of the pundits of the time derided s= uch visual enhancements, often pointing to same as some kind of 'eviden= ce' that the music itself must be lacking somehow, or otherwise below s= ome arbitrary line dividing Art from Crap.

Sure.. I remember that well, being one of the teenagers with 3 chords, = ripped jeans and a safety pin thru my nose... funnily enough though time ha= s a new story to tell.. The music of..lets say YES... one of the biggest co= ntenders for "Why punk needed to shake up the shit"... is now rat= her differently lauded. Given a whole chapter in a recent book on Noise mus= ic, and recently given a big article in Wire magazine. And also recently di= scussed on this list. I think that really the main augument at the time aga= inst these mega bands with big stage shows and light shows, were that they = were irrelevant to the times... The UK and the US, were in a slump of pover= ty and unemployment and the "kids" (me) were angry and couldnt gi= ve a shit about Roger Dean album covers of Tolkeinesque landscapes... what = prats.. we thought...

But the music stands for itself now (no visuals to take away from the e= xperience) and its wasnt so bad... just badly timed.

V= isuals have always been part of music, when Pil played behind a screen once= , the stage was invaded by angry fans wanting to see something... The DJ cu= lture we went through gave us the notion that we need not understand what t= hat guy on stage is actually doing (and I often suspect - not much) but in = my view anything goes as long as you arent miming or faking... and I kinda = think that although we dont need to dress up in silver costumes and come ou= t of spaceships and use laser harps and triple guitar necks...

but sometimes i feel that, maybe, just maybe.. we should at least put a= clean shirt on and use a coloured light or two??
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/= user/markfrancombe
= http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabe= l.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
--00151740156486253a047bf1c033-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 13:05:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EBB93BE73; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cixJS+piFeYTFCmQGpCTUEp/Eu/u+uTZQsNHgAK5b3Q=; b=rJPqKajdwaI2lRNcAGJkvddVGD+zd9q0p4N6MkyvCySeUHL8w+5KtJftzijgeserxi kTtx8ub+cesNNo7cOv87lP/u1zr15EWfbxouZpNr4Eo2KiwCmFzx2ssxRcZP3LpyKK0M LTT+FQ/6ncvEzvLNqShYZ780PqBOeCwGNJAQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XpwvjvM8hBm95RE8Hkb69c18X08O+3f6t05VyazzWWa19KLnoRfnO6Oof3hvte5+BB ldCXz81yg/t+RAAmuhEoKVE0gGBO/QmI0Gk/YDh2iljTZqp7N4cpdvO4HGUFA7zEVfaF zKCUwfdBr9zZ96DRNt6GiTy+lbSAQj+gCy+nQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:05:02 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90912300505s7b1317f7nec7d78aa7de26fb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2bbfe6359cb047bf1c953 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:05:04 +0000 (UTC) --001636b2bbfe6359cb047bf1c953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not exactly on topic, but a good example of images and music working together. http://www.zviane.com/autre/earth-move.htm (make sure to click play to hear the music). Sylvain On 12/30/09, Florian Anwander wrote: > > Hi chris > > To be honest: It can be real boring to see one guy (when it=B4s looping-m= usic >> it=B4s usual that it=B4s only one person) sitting on a chair making soun= ds for >> one hour or more. >> > Let me be honest: the most famous solo artist of whom I ever attended a > concert was Gidon Kremer. For sure one of the best living violinists. I t= ell > you: it was great to listen, but watching it was boring to death. > > But listening to Bach Sonatas and Partitas while I am sitting in a train > and am watching the landscape flying by, is a always an uplifting experie= nce > for me. Yes: the for me the "video" is an enhancement to the music, which > makes me like the music more. > > > Florian > > --001636b2bbfe6359cb047bf1c953 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not exactly on topic, but a good example of images and music working t= ogether.

=A0

http://www.zvia= ne.com/autre/earth-move.htm

(make sure to click play to hear the music).

=A0

Sylvain

=A0

On 12/30/09, Florian Anwander <fanwa= nder@mnet-online.de> wrote:
Hi chris

To be honest: It can be real bor= ing to see one guy (when it=B4s looping-music it=B4s usual that it=B4s only= one person) sitting on a chair making sounds for one hour or more.

Let me be honest: the most famous solo artist of whom I= ever attended a concert was Gidon Kremer. For sure one of the best living = violinists. I tell you: it was great to listen, but watching it was boring = to death.

But listening to Bach Sonatas and Partitas while I am sitting in a trai= n and am watching the landscape flying by, is a always an uplifting experie= nce for me. Yes: the for me the "video" is an enhancement to the = music, which makes me like the music more.

Florian

--001636b2bbfe6359cb047bf1c953-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 15:26:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6DF63BE75; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Ro0PYBn8gb4RfPbQOWjKU6ABHNFP4BiFFO1a71fmhU0=; b=wqFP+BnM8LRb1HKtHyA75AnejQf9JIodkflNQ8AxWhiXO+Wz4lLJvf4zcRHiazn7Nc mMqlYFxsrHXRxx3WBhuJtr40biFmJZK01gqTQOXl/1SBnDPGxUpY7NTMu2IclqeDzqvI bsMCXzWeqHXn/uCERRhuSztnQJoUSlieh4N9M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=awRqdLSlFThGyvdl0Z/QOFujBCPkYj5ILtkMJoUGwea4UsmbuUABS/iMAE/Yy1E1Ag yDGeHN8/ZV6/SlHlze+9G0jsTE5Z3FhjwpY4xTYmyQQgah0JHBE6fDQ1msqPEuquascp OfkXS/G6t5na58TxPsr0nHZ1+wINvZpjwQv4g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90912300505s7b1317f7nec7d78aa7de26fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> <2871c3a90912300505s7b1317f7nec7d78aa7de26fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:26:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 12b59945978ebec1 Message-ID: <101191640912300726h4991cac8gc3bcc9be299f9258@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630fd71827548047bf3c17a Resent-Message-ID: <51JyHC.A.9pH.LE3OLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:26:03 +0000 (UTC) --00163630fd71827548047bf3c17a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice discussion. I've played with unrehearsed, uncoordinated visuals on several occasions. I have not liked the results. As an audience member, I have frequently seen visuals that, while interesting enough, were so randomly related to the music that I had to shut my eyes in order to hear the music (forcing me not to see the performers, however boring or unboring they might have been). I agree with Per - if you want to have visuals, integrate it into your art. become a multimedia artist, or work closely with one and develop an approach that means something. Interestingly enough, I would probably prefer to perform with someone fingerpainting with a project (a la Joshua Light Show, Fillmore East, 1968) over someone manipulating video because of the greater immediacy and (literal and functional) fluidity of the former.... -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --00163630fd71827548047bf3c17a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice discussion.

I've played with unr= ehearsed, uncoordinated visuals on several occasions. I have not liked the = results. As an audience member, I have frequently seen visuals that, while = interesting enough, were so randomly related to the music that I had to shu= t my eyes in order to hear the music (forcing me not to see the performers,= however boring or unboring they might have been).

I agree with Per - if you want to have visuals, integrate it into your = art. become a multimedia artist, or work closely with one and develop an ap= proach that means something.

Interestingly enough, I would pro= bably prefer to perform with someone fingerpainting with a project (a la Jo= shua Light Show, Fillmore East, 1968) over someone manipulating video becau= se of the greater immediacy and (literal and functional) fluidity of the fo= rmer....

--
Warren
http://www.war= rensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 17:02:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 006363BE78; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> From: Todd Chambeau To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: New Loop Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:02:06 -0500 References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,<999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Loopers, I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual. Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video. It is through my EDP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY Thanks Todd Chambeau From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 18:06:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ED413BE77; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=sSUIVtl9lFtQVMnw_EsA:9 a=ExWauX1xO7avh26awIuC75PV3VsA:4 Message-Id: <8137ED7D-F06C-4E2B-B7FA-F65D9432C958@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Loop Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:06:36 -0800 References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,<999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <1zlmgB.A.9mG.wa5OLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Todd, Very nice music! I could tell that these people meant a lot to you. Good advice at the end too. Best, Ted Killian On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote: > Loopers, > > I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. > I've learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional > questions. I would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me > that EDP manual. > > Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video. > It is through my EDP. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY > > Thanks > Todd Chambeau From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 18:10:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A3C63BE77; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=9kUpYxnQPS36fDQFiz6ZRftD2uE4I82JZqYf682sw2A=; b=kWxluao3tOTGj3z7TWUPy2DfPc9bw76azeLdpXALcR1mnpO+lYprrddc7Jds4hcL/s i5OOohvLSWi/vRraQvEPka25Tjb/jQzRkeDIzapuAOMDZ5S5Xm7QD5wlpsRDCks4PgWH gzCLDp1kcaalTLRgpX8LIbCsu8nYE2kYqvv5s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=HaOlEKU9VukYs/UnjQrX9vGYtRgeIPui1qRljIpDb5KuZdJD7FWYReMUKThpk38LCS 9Q8lOtWH0WDoOR4p5SW5f/b5IdABQHY15tfwopq7oHx163VM3YebUYkhAN4fhcBScEIB bFKXcVPz2FFxiJtFfdOugxwTqbf+XMV/1lqbs= Message-Id: <0AC0F397-59DC-42B5-A8EE-EC3AD7734869@gmail.com> From: Christopher Darrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640912300726h4991cac8gc3bcc9be299f9258@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-63-421692730 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: videos and music and intention Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:14 -0800 References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> <2871c3a90912300505s7b1317f7nec7d78aa7de26fb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912300726h4991cac8gc3bcc9be299f9258@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9RSdkC.A.pwG.5d5OLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:10:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-63-421692730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looping is a juggling act, and a bit of magic. It takes a bit of slight of hand to keep all the balls in the air. I think whatever is done with INTENTION to achieve this "counts." When I say that looping is a juggling act, I mean that (back when I was looping all the time) I found that something new must constantly be added to the loop for it to remain interesting. (To me or the audience... I make no distinction.) So I found the shortest possible means of "building" each of my songs. (Not that I always chose that route, but good to have the musical "straight line" on tap.) But sometimes, there is just some necessary space that has to happen... while switching instruments, letting a cycle finish, whatever. So sometimes I would throw in a line of vocals or even something as simple as smacking all the open guitar strings so they'd ring and fade, or perhaps an unnecessary momentary reverse. Anything to keep it feeling live. (I also found that the mix needed to be at about 60-65% loop to make up for the extra energy and volume of the live inputs or else the loop would automatically feel stale and canned right away. But I can't fit that into my juggling metaphor.) So if some video slight-of-hand can expand the psychological experience of freshness by offering additional stimulus, great. I would add that it should be, as I say, "intentional" but everything is really, to some degree, just by the simple choice of what video to add. The more intention put into it, the more it "counts" as a legit "musical (aka experiential) element." When I start looping again, I will be triggering video loops live as well, saving those video clips with various lengths of sound bites for the more "experimental/challenging*/soundscapey/whatever" sections that stitch the songs together. * Regarding the word "challenging..." I get the meaning, and there is truth to the idea that music may be harder to listen to if it breaks certain culturally learned attributes, but one (speaking to myself here as well as most loopers) must be careful not to use this dynamic as cover for music that's just not fully evolved yet. Because when we get it right, when it truly resonates (rather then something masturbatory or without some new symmetry or other element of true beauty) then that cultural bias is mostly negated. As for sales... so far I've done everything at a (huge) loss, and mostly for myself. But I do feel that when things are done with intention and from the heart, they succeed. (So do corporately chosen and backed teen musicians that fit the latest provenly marketable archetypes. There's more then one route. Which reminds me...) If there's some rich looper on this list who wants to invest in something cool, let me know! I'll tell you what I'm up to and the final components I need! ---Christopher. On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Nice discussion. > > I've played with unrehearsed, uncoordinated visuals on several > occasions. I have not liked the results. As an audience member, I > have frequently seen visuals that, while interesting enough, were so > randomly related to the music that I had to shut my eyes in order to > hear the music (forcing me not to see the performers, however boring > or unboring they might have been). > > I agree with Per - if you want to have visuals, integrate it into > your art. become a multimedia artist, or work closely with one and > develop an approach that means something. > > Interestingly enough, I would probably prefer to perform with > someone fingerpainting with a project (a la Joshua Light Show, > Fillmore East, 1968) over someone manipulating video because of the > greater immediacy and (literal and functional) fluidity of the > former.... > > -- > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --Apple-Mail-63-421692730 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Looping is = a juggling act, and a bit of magic. It takes a bit of slight of hand to = keep all the balls in the air.

I think = whatever is done with INTENTION to achieve this = "counts."

When I say that looping is a = juggling act, I mean that (back when I was looping all the time) I found = that something new must constantly be added to the loop for it to remain = interesting. (To me or the audience... I make no distinction.) So I = found the shortest possible means of "building" each of my songs. (Not = that I always chose that route, but good to have the musical "straight = line" on tap.)

But sometimes, there is = just some necessary space that has to happen... while switching = instruments, letting a cycle finish, whatever. So sometimes I would = throw in a line of vocals or even something as simple as smacking all = the open guitar strings so they'd ring and fade, or perhaps an = unnecessary momentary reverse. Anything to keep it feeling = live.

(I also found that the mix needed to be = at about 60-65% loop to make up for the extra energy and volume of the = live inputs or else the loop would automatically feel stale and canned = right away. But I can't fit that into my juggling = metaphor.)

So if some video = slight-of-hand can expand the psychological experience of freshness by = offering additional stimulus, great. I would add that it should be, as I = say, "intentional" but everything is really, to some degree, just by the = simple choice of what = video to add. The more intention put into it, = the more it "counts" as a legit "musical (aka experiential) = element."

When I start looping again, I = will be triggering video loops live as well, saving those video clips = with various lengths of sound bites for the more = "experimental/challenging*/soundscapey/whatever" sections that stitch = the songs together.

* Regarding the word = "challenging..." I get the meaning, and there is truth to the idea that = music may be harder to listen to if it breaks certain culturally learned = attributes, but one (speaking to myself here as well as most loopers) = must be careful not to use this dynamic as cover for music that's just = not fully evolved yet. Because when we get it right, when it truly = resonates (rather then something masturbatory or without some new = symmetry or other element of true beauty) then that cultural bias is = mostly negated.

As for sales... so far = I've done everything at a (huge) loss, and mostly for myself. But I do = feel that when things are done with intention and from the heart, they = succeed. (So do corporately chosen and backed teen musicians that = fit the latest provenly marketable archetypes. There's more then one = route. Which reminds me...) If there's some rich looper on this = list who wants to invest in something cool, let me know! I'll tell you = what I'm up to and the final components I = need!

---Christopher.
<= div>

On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:26 AM, = Warren Sirota wrote:

Nice = discussion.

I've played with = unrehearsed, uncoordinated visuals on several occasions. I have not = liked the results. As an audience member, I have frequently seen visuals = that, while interesting enough, were so randomly related to the music = that I had to shut my eyes in order to hear the music (forcing me not to = see the performers, however boring or unboring they might have = been).

I agree with Per - if you want to have visuals, integrate = it into your art. become a multimedia artist, or work closely with one = and develop an approach that means something.

Interestingly = enough, I would probably prefer to perform with someone fingerpainting = with a project (a la Joshua Light Show, Fillmore East, 1968) over = someone manipulating video because of the greater immediacy and (literal = and functional) fluidity of the former....

--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NE= W CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/wa= rrensirota

= --Apple-Mail-63-421692730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 18:11:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 401D33BE73; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:11:20 UTC Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:03:02 +0000 (UTC) From: loopbozo@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1719449268.4155761262196182092.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_225984_1477032363.1262196182091" X-Originating-IP: [67.176.50.96] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.19_GA_3172.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.19_GA_3172.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:11:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_225984_1477032363.1262196182091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So far this lifetime my sense is that musicians don't want anything beyond the music, but the non-musician audience members are prone to needing being "entertained" and therein lies the rub. On the other side of the issue how many musicians prefer to close their eyes when they play rather than be distracted by what they might see? Or as Eno relates- that it is time to quit the band/performance when you find yourself thinking about doing your laundry during the show. No starch. bryan helm www.at-the-helm.us ----- Original Message ----- From: "david kirkdorffer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:40:49 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: videos and music and music sales I have a theory I'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes like this, "...people can handle more challenging music if it's accompanied by a cool video." Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your looping music and discovered it helped increase sales? Kind regards, UNDO http://www.myspace.com/undomusic ------=_Part_225984_1477032363.1262196182091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>So far th= is lifetime my sense is that musicians don't want anything beyond the music= , but the non-musician audience members are prone to needing being "enterta= ined" and therein lies the rub. On the other side of the issue how many mus= icians prefer to close their eyes when they play rather than be distracted = by what they might see? Or as Eno relates- that it is time to quit th= e band/performance when you find yourself thinking about doing your laundry= during the show. No starch.

      &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =              br= yan helm
www.at-the-helm.us

----- Original Messag= e -----
From: "david kirkdorffer" <unstrungone@yahoo.com>
To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:40= :49 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: videos and music and music= sales

I have a theory I= 'd like to run by the readers of this list. In a nutshell it goes lik= e this,

"...people can handle more challenging music if it's accom= panied by a cool video."

Do you agree? Have any of you added video to your lo= oping music and discovered it helped increase sales?

Kind regards,

UNDO

http://www.myspace.com/undomusic

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Mr. Ben Mark (Barrister) Telephone + 44 7024 022 726 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 20:19:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62C843BE77; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=gwIKT1FNAcHUKKI0xpSAYgqbTphKFgAAF+P6D05NDMo=; b=fqqtbBmnQ8BDr+t1C325FUQuss/Z2nIyua58yNvqyowx++rNvZQ3+TMCUpsCm4Z08L qwmWrLQULvO/ZXWaFqUqPX596ANWWF1usWc267mf/vVLTTi0uOe2Ekp0R9x3Nb0olYt7 15jxjdAa11jhjBcjdgUnO9HdmwkPMrT+2zDoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qFaM2b9udaEMqA7VzwoI5cUPRbSy5tI9d715khLnBjD14U3+rZSUFLPDF/dk/AaBP0 TioJGGvdipR1Vl62o1L63SxdM7iCj6M+Wc6+MeLPaFGk+SEXTuHi42NgIuCNZ+JKq1Og UtNVgM0NNZpngFEtxpWrNaInFs5m1VZc2ptA0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:19:38 -0500 Message-ID: <4759e5740912301219v60e7d9c9i75ccd716d9e2efb5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: a simple airline security report and my humble travel strategy. From: todd reynolds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f8f02ca07793047bf7db25 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:19:40 +0000 (UTC) --001485f8f02ca07793047bf7db25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I saw that there was a concern here from Erdem and others about upcoming changes in security, and i read Zoe's response as well. Since I traveled just yesterday, I thought I'd chime in with my view of the 'changes', and my plan going forward, which hasn't changed a bit (yet), but has served me well for a number of years. Here's a report on my trip yesterday: No changes whatsoever, not even so much as a patdown. I don't think that the basics are going change all that much at security. Really, with the advent of Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, we had to go shoeless through security, that's pretty much it. Now, with the advent of the underwear bomber, we'll probably have to go pantsless or underwearless through security. This does not affect laptops and gear. No matter how many wires are in my carry on, I just don't get hassled for some reason, unless for a quick swab of the interface or laptop. (once again, SO FAR) Although my troublefree flight was domestic and not international, I thought it might be interesting to share with you all how I travel since I do it often and haven't had one speck of trouble (knock on wood) for many years. Unlike Zoe, my instrument is not big enough to be in question, and I now carry no rack hardware at all but have it rented on the gig if necessary. It's just three pieces I travel with. My violin, a rolling camera bag, and a rolling soft bag. It seems to me that three pieces is pretty much the equation for an instrumentalist who isn't carrying a rack. I usually go out for at least a week at a time, so I need to have a bag which doubles as a clothes carrier and gear carrier, rather than a rack which I'm trying to stuff clothes in. I long ago bought the smallest case possible for my violin, and it's light but rugged, always fits up top, never a problem, in 25 yrs, never been asked to check it. Well, once, but that was in Europe, and a little finesse in conversation got me on without a problem. I carry my laptop, Nikon and lenses, audio interface, cables and wires in a camera bag which rolls or is a backpack. (Tenba, I'd make a different choice next time just cuz of the wheel base) Whenever I hit a small plane where things won't fit, I just take my laptop out of the bag and gate check it, I have yet to find an overhead which doesn't fit my fiddle easily, and yes, I'd take another flight rather than check it, but fight like hell to stay on the one I got. Flight attendants in my my humble experience have done everything to be helpful, even standing it up in the closet sometimes when it got crowded. And my FCB1010 and Monome or Launchpad or whatever, and my Laptop Stand goes underneath in a soft but huge all purpose bag from ebags.com, called the Motherlode, surrounded with clothing as padding. Through extensive travel over the past 4 years, this has served me well. Before that i was carrying my FCB1010, wireless ears and audio interface in a Pelikan rifle case. Anyone need one of those, lol? That was when there was not a charge for taking two bags... For what it's worth, I hope it's helpful. I do know that Erdem is a hardware guy and I believe he packs in a combination of Pelikan and suitcases, right, Erdem? Costs a lot for the extra bags, but Erdem I don't think anyone will bother you with the stuff underneath the plane, no matter how much hardware it is. I wish you all great holidays, a sparkling and prosperous New Year, both artistically and personally, and always look forward to the edification I get from the posts on the list! Cheers, Todd -- http://twitter.com/digifiddler --001485f8f02ca07793047bf7db25 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I saw that there was a concern here from Erdem and others about upcoming ch= anges in security, and i read Zoe's response as well. =A0Since I travel= ed just yesterday, I thought I'd chime in with my view of the 'chan= ges', and my plan going forward, which hasn't changed a bit (yet), = but has served me well for a number of years.=A0

Here's a report on my trip yesterday: =A0No changes what= soever, not even so much as a patdown. =A0I don't think that the basics= are going change all that much at security. Really, with the advent of Ric= hard Reid, the shoe bomber, we had to go shoeless through security, that= 9;s pretty much it. =A0Now, with the advent of the underwear bomber, we'= ;ll probably have to go pantsless or underwearless through security. =A0Thi= s does not affect laptops and gear. No matter how many wires are in my carr= y on, I just don't get hassled for some reason, unless for a quick swab= of the interface or laptop. (once again, SO FAR)=A0

Although my troublefree flight was domestic and not int= ernational, I thought it might be interesting to share with you all how I t= ravel since I do it often and haven't had one speck of trouble (knock o= n wood) for many years. =A0Unlike Zoe, my instrument is not big enough to b= e in question, and I now carry no rack hardware at all but have it rented o= n the gig if necessary. =A0It's just three pieces I travel with. =A0My = violin, a rolling camera bag, and a rolling soft bag.

It seems to me that three pieces is pretty much the equ= ation for an instrumentalist who isn't carrying a rack. =A0I usually go= out for at least a week at a time, so I need to have a bag which doubles a= s a clothes carrier and gear carrier, rather than a rack which I'm tryi= ng to stuff clothes in.=A0

I long ago bought the smallest case possible for my vio= lin, and it's light but rugged, always fits up top, never a problem, in= 25 yrs, never been asked to check it. =A0Well, once, but that was in Europ= e, and a little finesse in conversation got me on without a problem. =A0I c= arry my laptop, Nikon and lenses, audio interface, cables and wires in a ca= mera bag which rolls or is a backpack. =A0(Tenba, I'd make a different = choice next time just cuz of the wheel base)

Whenever I hit a small plane where things won't fit= , I just take my laptop out of the bag and gate check it, I have yet to fin= d an overhead which doesn't fit my fiddle easily, and yes, I'd take= another flight rather than check it, but fight like hell to stay on the on= e I got. Flight attendants in my my humble experience have done everything = to be helpful, even standing it up in the closet sometimes when it got crow= ded.

And my FCB1010 and Monome or Launchpad or whatever, and= my Laptop Stand goes underneath in a soft but huge all purpose bag from ebags.com, called the Motherlode, surrounded= with clothing as padding.=A0

Through extensive travel over the past 4 years, this ha= s served me well. =A0Before that i was carrying my FCB1010, wireless ears a= nd audio interface in a Pelikan rifle case. =A0Anyone need one of those, lo= l? That was when there was not a charge for taking two bags...=A0

For what it's worth, I hope it's helpful. =A0I = do know that Erdem is a hardware guy and I believe he packs in a combinatio= n of Pelikan and suitcases, right, Erdem? =A0Costs a lot for the extra bags= , but Erdem I don't think anyone will bother you with the stuff underne= ath the plane, no matter how much hardware it is.=A0

I wish you all great holidays, a sparkling and prospero= us New Year, both artistically and personally, and always look forward to t= he edification I get from the posts on the list!=A0

Cheers,=A0

Todd

--
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--001485f8f02ca07793047bf7db25-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 20:29:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D30A3BE79; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_w50SeiEX+yua2seUvOzJdw)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4759e5740912301219v60e7d9c9i75ccd716d9e2efb5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: a simple airline security report and my humble travel strategy. Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:29:28 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:29:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_w50SeiEX+yua2seUvOzJdw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT "No matter how many wires are in my carry on" The more the better. The more obvious you are about what you are doing, the less you will be questioned. A little matchbox with a couple resistors in it hidden in your sock will get ya caught. t ----- Original Message ----- From: todd reynolds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: a simple airline security report and my humble travel strategy. I saw that there was a concern here from Erdem and others about upcoming changes in security, and i read Zoe's response as well. Since I traveled just yesterday, I thought I'd chime in with my view of the 'changes', and my plan going forward, which hasn't changed a bit (yet), but has served me well for a number of years. Here's a report on my trip yesterday: No changes whatsoever, not even so much as a patdown. I don't think that the basics are going change all that much at security. Really, with the advent of Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, we had to go shoeless through security, that's pretty much it. Now, with the advent of the underwear bomber, we'll probably have to go pantsless or underwearless through security. This does not affect laptops and gear. No matter how many wires are in my carry on, I just don't get hassled for some reason, unless for a quick swab of the interface or laptop. (once again, SO FAR) Although my troublefree flight was domestic and not international, I thought it might be interesting to share with you all how I travel since I do it often and haven't had one speck of trouble (knock on wood) for many years. Unlike Zoe, my instrument is not big enough to be in question, and I now carry no rack hardware at all but have it rented on the gig if necessary. It's just three pieces I travel with. My violin, a rolling camera bag, and a rolling soft bag. It seems to me that three pieces is pretty much the equation for an instrumentalist who isn't carrying a rack. I usually go out for at least a week at a time, so I need to have a bag which doubles as a clothes carrier and gear carrier, rather than a rack which I'm trying to stuff clothes in. I long ago bought the smallest case possible for my violin, and it's light but rugged, always fits up top, never a problem, in 25 yrs, never been asked to check it. Well, once, but that was in Europe, and a little finesse in conversation got me on without a problem. I carry my laptop, Nikon and lenses, audio interface, cables and wires in a camera bag which rolls or is a backpack. (Tenba, I'd make a different choice next time just cuz of the wheel base) Whenever I hit a small plane where things won't fit, I just take my laptop out of the bag and gate check it, I have yet to find an overhead which doesn't fit my fiddle easily, and yes, I'd take another flight rather than check it, but fight like hell to stay on the one I got. Flight attendants in my my humble experience have done everything to be helpful, even standing it up in the closet sometimes when it got crowded. And my FCB1010 and Monome or Launchpad or whatever, and my Laptop Stand goes underneath in a soft but huge all purpose bag from ebags.com, called the Motherlode, surrounded with clothing as padding. Through extensive travel over the past 4 years, this has served me well. Before that i was carrying my FCB1010, wireless ears and audio interface in a Pelikan rifle case. Anyone need one of those, lol? That was when there was not a charge for taking two bags... For what it's worth, I hope it's helpful. I do know that Erdem is a hardware guy and I believe he packs in a combination of Pelikan and suitcases, right, Erdem? Costs a lot for the extra bags, but Erdem I don't think anyone will bother you with the stuff underneath the plane, no matter how much hardware it is. I wish you all great holidays, a sparkling and prosperous New Year, both artistically and personally, and always look forward to the edification I get from the posts on the list! Cheers, Todd -- http://twitter.com/digifiddler --Boundary_(ID_w50SeiEX+yua2seUvOzJdw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
"No matter how many wires are in my carry on"

The more the better. The more obvious you are about what you are doing, the less you will be questioned. A little matchbox with a couple resistors in it hidden in your sock will get ya caught.

t

----- Original Message -----

From: todd reynolds

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:19 PM

Subject: a simple airline security report and my humble travel strategy.

I saw that there was a concern here from Erdem and others about upcoming changes in security, and i read Zoe's response as well. Since I traveled just yesterday, I thought I'd chime in with my view of the 'changes', and my plan going forward, which hasn't changed a bit (yet), but has served me well for a number of years.

Here's a report on my trip yesterday: No changes whatsoever, not even so much as a patdown. I don't think that the basics are going change all that much at security. Really, with the advent of Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, we had to go shoeless through security, that's pretty much it. Now, with the advent of the underwear bomber, we'll probably have to go pantsless or underwearless through security. This does not affect laptops and gear. No matter how many wires are in my carry on, I just don't get hassled for some reason, unless for a quick swab of the interface or laptop. (once again, SO FAR)

Although my troublefree flight was domestic and not international, I thought it might be interesting to share with you all how I travel since I do it often and haven't had one speck of trouble (knock on wood) for many years. Unlike Zoe, my instrument is not big enough to be in question, and I now carry no rack hardware at all but have it rented on the gig if necessary. It's just three pieces I travel with. My violin, a rolling camera bag, and a rolling soft bag.

It seems to me that three pieces is pretty much the equation for an instrumentalist who isn't carrying a rack. I usually go out for at least a week at a time, so I need to have a bag which doubles as a clothes carrier and gear carrier, rather than a rack which I'm trying to stuff clothes in.

I long ago bought the smallest case possible for my violin, and it's light but rugged, always fits up top, never a problem, in 25 yrs, never been asked to check it. Well, once, but that was in Europe, and a little finesse in conversation got me on without a problem. I carry my laptop, Nikon and lenses, audio interface, cables and wires in a camera bag which rolls or is a backpack. (Tenba, I'd make a different choice next time just cuz of the wheel base)

Whenever I hit a small plane where things won't fit, I just take my laptop out of the bag and gate check it, I have yet to find an overhead which doesn't fit my fiddle easily, and yes, I'd take another flight rather than check it, but fight like hell to stay on the one I got. Flight attendants in my my humble experience have done everything to be helpful, even standing it up in the closet sometimes when it got crowded.

And my FCB1010 and Monome or Launchpad or whatever, and my Laptop Stand goes underneath in a soft but huge all purpose bag from ebags.com, called the Motherlode, surrounded with clothing as padding.

Through extensive travel over the past 4 years, this has served me well. Before that i was carrying my FCB1010, wireless ears and audio interface in a Pelikan rifle case. Anyone need one of those, lol? That was when there was not a charge for taking two bags...

For what it's worth, I hope it's helpful. I do know that Erdem is a hardware guy and I believe he packs in a combination of Pelikan and suitcases, right, Erdem? Costs a lot for the extra bags, but Erdem I don't think anyone will bother you with the stuff underneath the plane, no matter how much hardware it is.

I wish you all great holidays, a sparkling and prosperous New Year, both artistically and personally, and always look forward to the edification I get from the posts on the list!

Cheers,

Todd

--
http://twitter.com/digifiddler

--Boundary_(ID_w50SeiEX+yua2seUvOzJdw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 20:59:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22CFB3BE78; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DmvR5XKhOhb+UZ9YJLiAshSHT8tgTT2pVeKBKu+McvI=; b=IseqXma29dRyrlZjtyxwCZlJ6E1QLQKx/LkPD8ySNWtLupXCfUwkTJtxEG6OzPtV4x pjKKd8AAh0ESZzAepL09IvDbaMdWLQlLs713NautA+0U0JzL9eRLVd8bkDyvUVtVtbR0 PwjQ/NYJJ6JNuHY6ow4t2yy2QH5kXMIJa4fxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o1p3le7aIbyiwu1z+vtSLP3OU0OhwUXSRdS+0zYqVzso6qlie3Vl68khX8MUt/scZ3 RL25hvd9ZRrbGYAzlolRhOjhlx7VEvoWqFgHy8AAPnu/9eMv086C4eM51fPug5oLzarO 9qarH8h7ZPTEkgGifJ2cdLHUVCEa2WguElbdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8137ED7D-F06C-4E2B-B7FA-F65D9432C958@charter.net> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> <8137ED7D-F06C-4E2B-B7FA-F65D9432C958@charter.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:59:53 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912301259t3842fb17r8228a1c9fd691cab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Loop From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d1fdd95c328047bf86b9a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:59:56 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d1fdd95c328047bf86b9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd that's really neat. I echo Ted's praise and the way the music grows from rootsy to much more twisted sophisticated. Good job. Your imagery is touching and I'm sorry for whatever 'losses' you have experienced. I don't know if the title was figuratively or 'lost' may have some other meaning. Good piece. Best in the New Year Jim On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Todd, > > Very nice music! > > I could tell that these people meant a lot to you. > > Good advice at the end too. > > Best, > > Ted Killian > > > On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote: > > Loopers, >> >> I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've >> learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I wo= uld >> also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual. >> >> Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video. >> It is through my EDP. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY >> >> Thanks >> Todd Chambeau >> > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016364d1fdd95c328047bf86b9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd that's really neat.=A0 I echo Ted's praise and the way the mus= ic grows from rootsy to much more twisted sophisticated.=A0 Good job.=A0 Yo= ur imagery is touching and I'm sorry for whatever 'losses' you = have experienced.=A0 I don't know if the title was figuratively or '= ;lost' may have some other meaning.

Good piece.

Best in the New Year

Jim

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.= net> wrote:

Todd,

Very nice music!

I could tell that these people meant a lot to you.

Good advice at the end too.

Best,

Ted Killian

On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote:

Loopers,

I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've l= earned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I would = also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual.

Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.
It is through my EDP.

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY

Thanks
Todd Chambeau

--
ReUse, an i= ntrospective textural aural
w= ww.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--0016364d1fdd95c328047bf86b9a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 21:00:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D1DF3BE84; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=2nhGjAOeAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=npx5NHmsAAAA:8 a=-KG3j4xFAAAA:8 a=bLmzTDcsAAAA:8 a=Sko9dtvPTwpxKpfm1osA:9 a=DVgsaNVpgMvIBpQcdwCX8yB6QdQA:4 a=8vhYR_b5NeEA:10 a=EPQ08gsTE2cA:10 a=fydY69f7idsA:10 Message-Id: <4160D03B-5F37-4568-AA7C-568D8FDC7226@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0AC0F397-59DC-42B5-A8EE-EC3AD7734869@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: videos and music and intention Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:00:02 -0800 References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> <2871c3a90912300505s7b1317f7nec7d78aa7de26fb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912300726h4991cac8gc3bcc9be299f9258@mail.gmail.com> <0AC0F397-59DC-42B5-A8EE-EC3AD7734869@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi all. Very interesting discussion - and about as many opinions as there are =20= posters. I don't have much to add. I do see a bit of everyone's point of view. Here's a slightly different variation. I started out as a visual artist and had much education/training and a =20= very modest career track-record as such decades ago. Music was only a "hobby" at the time and not something I shared with =20 the public (or hardly even friends). When I was having art shows, I never worried about what sort of muzak =20= was being played at the gallery opening. It did not concern me what sort of wine was being served nor what the =20= cheese and hors d'oeuvres plate looked like. Vivaldi's "Rite of Spring" had nothing at all to do with my work and =20 might (even so) be wafting about on speakers somewhere but it didn't =20 bother me. At the time I would never have presumed to tell the gallery people =20 what to serve or what sort of "muzak" to employ. That was their business, I was just a painter. I doubt if anyone was there to hear the Vivaldi - though I am sure it =20= made the evening more pleasant (less tedious) for some. There might have been a few there who's objective in attending was =20 specifically the free food and drink (and might not have come =20 otherwise). Most were probably there to see and be seen by the other attendees - =20 or were dragged there by someone who was. And . . . a few . . . were there to see the art . . . or me . . . or =20 some mixture of the two. It's that way with every musical audience too. Add a bit more alcohol, dancing, smoke, caffeine, chit-chat, ennui, =20 and maybe lights and video and you have an typical local music venue. People come for different aspects of the experience - often without =20 actually even realizing it. Some people are so conditioned by TV and movies to expect some form of =20= "visual" with any musical experience that some sort of "show" had =20 better be provided (if the band wants to come across), even if it's an =20= ersatz or totally random one - like showing cartoons with the sound =20 off behind the band while it plays. It's like the obligatory wine, cheese, and Vivaldi at the art gallery =20= - obligatory and mostly harmless. Personally, I have often wished I was more of a "performer" - because =20= that is what the public really wants (or seems to respond to). They want you to be the music AND the cartoon . . . so-to-speak. I have at times been obliged to augment my performances with modern =20 dancers, vintage or abstract film, avant-garde theatre, video, fancy =20 lights, etc. Sometimes it is fun. Sometimes it is even "successful" as an artistic statement and/or =20 experience. However, I am just not a person who is much interested in coordinating =20= and integrating all that into an organically complete presentation =20 much of the time. Some of you are - and my hat is off to you - God bless you. But, if it ever comes to the point that artful music itself becomes =20 generally less "valid" because the musician is not also a great =20 dancer, video auteur, standup comedian, story-teller, magician, =20 juggler, jack-of-all-trades, plus is also a physically beautiful =20 specimen, bon vivant and a bit of a slut as well, then most of us are =20= really and truly sunk and may as well go home. That's the sort of message the music industry has encouraged for an =20 eternity and a day. That's not a bus I can . . . or want to . . . ride at this point (if =20= ever I could). Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 21:29:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C2703BE72; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B3BC649.60207@asyouthink.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:29:45 -0800 From: Cass M User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Loop References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,<999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> <8137ED7D-F06C-4E2B-B7FA-F65D9432C958@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <8137ED7D-F06C-4E2B-B7FA-F65D9432C958@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) I very much second Ted's praises. Thanks for coming out of lurker-land and sharing with us, Todd. : ) Cass tEd � KiLLiAn wrote: > Todd, > > Very nice music! > > I could tell that these people meant a lot to you. > > Good advice at the end too. > > Best, > > Ted Killian > > On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote: > >> Loopers, >> >> I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've >> learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I >> would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual. >> >> Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video. >> It is through my EDP. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY >> >> Thanks >> Todd Chambeau > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 22:12:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E93843BE73; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8B2CFB37-7F7D-4411-B92F-A559E06FE507@comcast.net> From: Todd Chambeau To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60912301259t3842fb17r8228a1c9fd691cab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-436086965 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Loop Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:12:08 -0500 References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> <8137ED7D-F06C-4E2B-B7FA-F65D9432C958@charter.net> <9e0440a60912301259t3842fb17r8228a1c9fd691cab@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:12:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-436086965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank You for all for your replies. Jim, Yes, sadly I did lose these people. The vid is heavy on my sister, who =20= passed at the age of 14 in 87' from Leukemia. The home movies had not =20= been looked at since by anyone and this all sort of happened spur of =20 the moment. Amazingly, the strat lead during the last 2 +minutes, was =20= done in one take, albeit a few mistakes, but I really did feel my =20 relatives presence. Kinda corny, but I was no doubt not alone. Anyway, thanks again everyone for the help and kind words. Todd On Dec 30, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Todd that's really neat. I echo Ted's praise and the way the music =20= > grows from rootsy to much more twisted sophisticated. Good job. =20 > Your imagery is touching and I'm sorry for whatever 'losses' you =20 > have experienced. I don't know if the title was figuratively or =20 > 'lost' may have some other meaning. > > Good piece. > > Best in the New Year > > > Jim > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn =20 > wrote: > Todd, > > Very nice music! > > I could tell that these people meant a lot to you. > > Good advice at the end too. > > Best, > > Ted Killian > > > On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote: > > Loopers, > > I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. =20 > I've learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional =20 > questions. I would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me =20= > that EDP manual. > > Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video. > It is through my EDP. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY > > Thanks > Todd Chambeau > > > > > --=20 > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-3-436086965 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank You for all for your = replies.
Jim,
Yes, sadly I did lose these people. = The vid is heavy on my sister, who passed at the age of 14 in 87' from = Leukemia. The home movies had not been looked at since by anyone and = this all sort of happened spur of the moment. Amazingly, the strat lead = during the last 2 +minutes, was done in one take, albeit a few mistakes, = but I really did feel my relatives presence. Kinda corny, but I was no = doubt not alone.

Anyway, thanks again everyone = for the help and kind = words.

Todd

On Dec 30, = 2009, at 3:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

Todd = that's really neat. I echo Ted's praise and the way the music = grows from rootsy to much more twisted sophisticated. Good = job. Your imagery is touching and I'm sorry for whatever 'losses' = you have experienced. I don't know if the title was figuratively = or 'lost' may have some other meaning.

Good piece.

Best = in the New Year

Jim

On Wed, = Dec 30, 2009 at 1:06 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

Todd,

Very nice music!

I could tell that these = people meant a lot to you.

Good advice at the end too.

= Best,

Ted = Killian

On Dec 30, = 2009, at 9:02 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote:

Loopers,

= I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've = learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I = would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP = manual.

Here is loop I did after sorting through some old = family video.
It is through my EDP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY
=
Thanks
Todd Chambeau

=

--
ReUse, = an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse
music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com<= br>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu= sic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jim= goodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
<= a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu= sic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigi= tal

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmu= sic

= --Apple-Mail-3-436086965-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 22:49:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C8713BE7E; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=STC+M4L6a7GVnmPneY06u+fZuFL3hmJqvFrHlyznaFo=; b=eyqYEL1xQT9vwxRLXKmrlvj4GoiYA/1lx83oYxr2+j5DfQsFjAglKr3deL4KbGYZ5A KHa7gzT85F49GfwTZuUPqwCNlcZqSUQZx4ADkF1SfXAmow8U4kzW/rKu7U5RE2MSpGBG Byw0P0YCS9JNgYHIJifBYFqlUfmN80xgTCQMA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LaP8BS3dMwldL0gVwZlqOm+yK71vJy4ohwIQzs0okzt7TaNaqCX+0CpRw6RTjTXNuj BZjfAxVqPkUSzMjZ4O92LypUHD32KeVJud4KBYIYqvfG4YeFTTA8yrBuMG890hu9wUme H0Q+lPxrGlHKml2pNKkwhabLRPu+bauwFCiGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:49:06 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: the magic act From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:49:07 +0000 (UTC) I'm glad you brought this up, Christopher. One of my frequent goals in looping is to try to not sound like I'm looping., or to blur the line between what is looped and what is live. I often get the impression of performing some slight-of-hand tricks as well. Some of the stuff I do: --Try to cover up the "seam" of the loop with more material, so there isn't that obvious start/stop point. Any given point in the loop is in the middle of something happening. --Play something ultra simple with 'holes' into the loop, then fill in the holes live. (Or a variation, play 'call and response' with your loop.) --Imitate the loop on your instrument while changing the original loop settings. (Reverse, half speed, etc.) --Create loops of different lengths (on different devices) that are long periods of silence punctuated by only one or two notes. Play something live that these notes will change the character of when they appear. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt Christopher Darrow was like: > > Looping is a juggling act, and a bit of magic. It takes a bit of slight of > hand to keep all the balls in the air. > I think whatever is done with INTENTION to achieve this "counts." > When I say that looping is a juggling act, I mean that (back when I was > looping all the time) I found that something new must constantly be added to > the loop for it to remain interesting. (To me or the audience... I make no > distinction.) So I found the shortest possible means of "building" each of > my songs. (Not that I always chose that route, but good to have the musical > "straight line" on tap.) > But sometimes, there is just some necessary space that has to happen... > while switching instruments, letting a cycle finish, whatever. So sometimes > I would throw in a line of vocals or even something as simple as smacking > all the open guitar strings so they'd ring and fade, or perhaps an > unnecessary momentary reverse. Anything to keep it feeling live. > (I also found that the mix needed to be at about 60-65% loop to make up for > the extra energy and volume of the live inputs or else the loop would > automatically feel stale and canned right away. But I can't fit that into my > juggling metaphor.) ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 23:01:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47D353BE79; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FJuQFh9IYEJ6G7kSM7NonpnUXSm1OJZUp8nVSZGfBDM=; b=fDJ8nSvBEAK5cf4Av7/cjE+Bg8XddwXULoJBYjAaDR750CGhpapTDWGlakc6SI15Rl a4jWrmVcCFng4rJd/TiA54djE+vkXBytjTpZfX047d7ScXbik197mCh3x2IKkr/pAtJl zcml3FscQmXkKrqqSptq4YQswN6UNSmF39x28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ze7n4hlNjZD7SkzjWOS3JTRO+NgexVss3s1V47hFgY01LOYdlVOoSGGWs3ea76G3ue 5wvVaNF/kiuzzo5fsnEZGttjoKQq852VA3VDvu7O4+w/yu2niBGbY4BTs7gqRe9Xj7LD kLNzYVQTnpogdI87g7y97dPR8DiD+oXCd3ER8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4759e5740912301219v60e7d9c9i75ccd716d9e2efb5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:01:39 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a simple airline security report and my humble travel strategy. From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-L6k1D.A.nY.Vv9OLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:01:41 +0000 (UTC) When I fly with gear, it's a drum machine and a large number of pedals, usually wrapped in towels in a rolling suitcase. (Since the equipment boxes are too large to pack so tightly.) When I flew with gear earlier this year, I got stuck in TSA purgatory. One agent was already checking out my first bag when the xray agent called for an agent for the second bag. There wasn't a second agent available. The first agent couldn't leave my already-open first bag to collect my second bag. The x-ray agent couldn't bring it over without leaving his station, and neither agent trusted me to carry the second bag to the examination table. So we all stood there in suspended animation (holding up the line) until a third agent came back from his break. Matt On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Toby G wrote: > "No matter how many wires are in my carry on" > > The more the better.=A0 The more obvious you are about what you are doing= , the > less you will be questioned.=A0 A little matchbox with a couple resistors= in > it hidden in your sock will get ya caught. > > t > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 23:04:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDAE23BE7E; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MBfj5C7BPW52bbKBJsti70FqmkT7H8KisQ4N4P7ygNU=; b=WMfJ5RU4hpnZqkdryvaw01gX1F274KEN/mH1Gr8S2LGitoI0+fk1N3naZdvR5icMsE J55UraBpjwM5GgmtoIlVF1MGR1kmLhFyxijoU12cd44KJ6oJHgiE7P9GF7Up3NoxNM+o 9XFpC7G/eB+efuHxfqUO0FVr4vifobbkm59og= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aFq5rqW9pD5XI+dRE1V1OS2ut/881Hw3xuViBC2eR4cxpCVxxJ9WZs8lYkcS02w0y5 u+aWVhBsoT9zxoiZEyH2tfOhOoZZ/e0kMB+dF0g0Fy6erFttRjUP5w0B5DBVvlN+yrPG b32LHdlZNS7Pz+CF7f5TGNxyn1ql3t07NNVps= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:04:58 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912301504i78a93e2dp95a0080ad9b280f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the magic act From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d1fdde4d532047bfa2a7b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:04:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d1fdde4d532047bfa2a7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good thoughts as I think about this quite a bit as I've brought looping into my world. I will say though that I have been more guilty of the 'knee jerk' reaction to just hit record and keep adding to it in more of a repetitive process than a process where I"m thinking about 'twist this' or 'lower that'. Maybe it's just inexperience but the whole thing is a bit like a first date when one is going 'I should have done this' or 'said that'. Point is I personally need to think more about Matt's ideas when I'm going live and not just aimlessly respond and layer sounds. At times luck leads me but hindsight is I can use these observations in what I"m doing with looping. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I'm glad you brought this up, Christopher. > --0016364d1fdde4d532047bfa2a7b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good thoughts as I think about this quite a bit as I've brought looping= into my world.=A0 I will say though that I have been more guilty of the &#= 39;knee jerk' reaction to just hit record and keep adding to it in more= of a repetitive process than a process where I"m thinking about '= twist this' or 'lower that'.=A0 Maybe it's just inexperienc= e but the whole thing is a bit like a first date when one is going 'I s= hould have done this' or 'said that'.=A0 Point is I personally = need to think more about Matt's ideas when I'm going live and not j= ust aimlessly respond and layer sounds.=A0 At times luck leads me but hinds= ight is I can use these observations in what I"m doing with looping.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Matt Davignon <= span dir=3D"ltr"><mattdavignon= @gmail.com> wrote:

I'm glad you brought this up= , Christopher.
--0016364d1fdde4d532047bfa2a7b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Dec 30 23:16:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEB943BE7C; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,<999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: New Loop Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:16:16 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.253.50.12 In-Reply-To: <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30258-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC57BD3860BB40-40A0-3548@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:16:56 +0000 (UTC) wonderful todd!.....i love home movies.....fits right in with the=20 discussion on music and videos......perhaps the "whole is greater than=20 the sum of it's parts"......m =C2=A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks=C2=A0 Todd Chambeau=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 00:42:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C67B3BE78; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3619 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:42:09 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: References: Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:27:06 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: the magic act Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:42:09 +0000 (UTC) At 2:49 PM -0800 12/30/09, Matt Davignon wrote: >I'm glad you brought this up, Christopher. > >One of my frequent goals in looping is to try to not sound like I'm >looping., or to blur the line between what is looped and what is live. >I often get the impression of performing some slight-of-hand tricks as >well. Some of the stuff I do: .... > >--Create loops of different lengths (on different devices) that are >long periods of silence punctuated by only one or two notes. Play >something live that these notes will change the character of when they >appear. Phasing is good. I've spent a lot of time working with analog sequencers and their digital equivalents -- e, g. on the Nord Modular. A little phasing can give the listener the feeling that the music is governed by a rule, but that the details of the rule cannot be pinned down. > >-- >Matt Davignon >www.ribosomemusic.com >Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > >Christopher Darrow was like: >> >> Looping is a juggling act, and a bit of magic. It takes a bit of slight of >> hand to keep all the balls in the air. >> I think whatever is done with INTENTION to achieve this "counts." >> When I say that looping is a juggling act, I mean that (back when I was >> looping all the time) I found that something new must constantly be added to >> the loop for it to remain interesting. (To me or the audience... I make no >> distinction.) So I found the shortest possible means of "building" each of >> my songs. (Not that I always chose that route, but good to have the musical >> "straight line" on tap.) >> But sometimes, there is just some necessary space that has to happen... >> while switching instruments, letting a cycle finish, whatever. So sometimes >> I would throw in a line of vocals or even something as simple as smacking >> all the open guitar strings so they'd ring and fade, or perhaps an >> unnecessary momentary reverse. Anything to keep it feeling live. >> (I also found that the mix needed to be at about 60-65% loop to make up for >> the extra energy and volume of the live inputs or else the loop would >> automatically feel stale and canned right away. But I can't fit that into my >> juggling metaphor.) >... -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld "Don't make book, if you cannot cover bets." -- Tom Lehrer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 00:42:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A42043BE88; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: <0AC0F397-59DC-42B5-A8EE-EC3AD7734869@gmail.com> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> <2871c3a90912300505s7b1317f7nec7d78aa7de26fb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912300726h4991cac8gc3bcc9be299f9258@mail.gmail.com> <0AC0F397-59DC-42B5-A8EE-EC3AD7734869@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:39:58 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: videos and music and intention Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:42:09 +0000 (UTC) At 10:12 AM -0800 12/30/09, Christopher Darrow wrote: >Looping is a juggling act, and a bit of magic. It takes a bit of >slight of hand to keep all the balls in the air. > >I think whatever is done with INTENTION to achieve this "counts." Hi, As an occasional looper who spends most of his art time doing video and photography, I have to chime in here. Thanks Christopher, for changing the thread title from sales to intention, which is much more relevant to my interests. My personal intentions as a video artist (and occasionally, as a composer/sound track arranger for my videos) is to make pieces (live or in studio) in which the video and music are balanced and complimentary, and neither medium dominates the other. I certainly respect that some musicians prefer to present their music straight up, with no visual accompaniment. I agree that randomly tossing visual into a performance without regard to the music being played is not likely to be enlightening. OTOH, for one of the pieces I've been working on this holiday vacation, I decided that a sketch I had been working on would go well with a piece of music that I wanted to work with, so I just put them together intentionally. When I look at some of my recent work-in-progress, I find my mind drifting between listening to music with visual accompaniment and watching a video with a soundtrack. I take that as a sign that I am approaching the level of integration I am intending. At 10:26 AM -0500 12/30/09, Warren Sirota wrote: > >Interestingly enough, I would probably prefer to perform with >someone fingerpainting with a project (a la Joshua Light Show, >Fillmore East, 1968) over someone manipulating video because of the >greater immediacy and (literal and functional) fluidity of the >former.... I can very much relate to this comment -- indeed seeing the Joshua Light Show is one of the things that inspired me to do the visual art that I've been making for the past 40 years. Liquid lights have a physical immediacy that nothing I can do with a video mixer can match. Indeed I have to work to avoid the trap of trying to be as physical in my mixing as the musicians. If I am too physical, my imagery becomes too cluttered. I find I'm best off combining material that seems to fit the music and making slow changes in response to it. In my ideal performance scenario, I'd work with musicians who were comfortable reacting to imagery, and we would collectively work out structural improvisations based on musical and visual motifs that we developed. In the real world of single to low double digit audiences and rigs (especially my own) too big to make rehearsals practical even if everyone had the time, I work improvisationally with the musical situation, and try to compliment the music with my visuals as best I can. I could go on at length, but I have two or three pieces I'd like to finish before it is back to work on Monday At 10:12 AM -0800 12/30/09, Christopher Darrow wrote: >Looping is a juggling act, and a bit of magic. It takes a bit of >slight of hand to keep all the balls in the air. > >I think whatever is done with INTENTION to achieve this "counts." > >When I say that looping is a juggling act, I mean that (back when I >was looping all the time) I found that something new must constantly >be added to the loop for it to remain interesting. (To me or the >audience... I make no distinction.) So I found the shortest possible >means of "building" each of my songs. (Not that I always chose that >route, but good to have the musical "straight line" on tap.) > >But sometimes, there is just some necessary space that has to >happen... while switching instruments, letting a cycle finish, >whatever. So sometimes I would throw in a line of vocals or even >something as simple as smacking all the open guitar strings so >they'd ring and fade, or perhaps an unnecessary momentary reverse. >Anything to keep it feeling live. > >(I also found that the mix needed to be at about 60-65% loop to make >up for the extra energy and volume of the live inputs or else the >loop would automatically feel stale and canned right away. But I >can't fit that into my juggling metaphor.) > >So if some video slight-of-hand can expand the psychological >experience of freshness by offering additional stimulus, great. I >would add that it should be, as I say, "intentional" but everything >is really, to some degree, just by the simple choice of what video >to add. The more intention put into it, the more it "counts" as a >legit "musical (aka experiential) element." > >When I start looping again, I will be triggering video loops live as >well, saving those video clips with various lengths of sound bites >for the more "experimental/challenging*/soundscapey/whatever" >sections that stitch the songs together. > >* Regarding the word "challenging..." I get the meaning, and there >is truth to the idea that music may be harder to listen to if it >breaks certain culturally learned attributes, but one (speaking to >myself here as well as most loopers) must be careful not to use this >dynamic as cover for music that's just not fully evolved yet. >Because when we get it right, when it truly resonates (rather then >something masturbatory or without some new symmetry or other element >of true beauty) then that cultural bias is mostly negated. > >As for sales... so far I've done everything at a (huge) loss, and >mostly for myself. But I do feel that when things are done with >intention and from the heart, they succeed. (So do corporately >chosen and backed teen musicians that fit the latest provenly >marketable archetypes. There's more then one route. Which reminds >me...) If there's some rich looper on this list who wants to invest >in something cool, let me know! I'll tell you what I'm up to and the >final components I need! > > >---Christopher. > > > >On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >>Nice discussion. >> >>I've played with unrehearsed, uncoordinated visuals on several >>occasions. I have not liked the results. As an audience member, I >>have frequently seen visuals that, while interesting enough, were >>so randomly related to the music that I had to shut my eyes in >>order to hear the music (forcing me not to see the performers, >>however boring or unboring they might have been). >> >>I agree with Per - if you want to have visuals, integrate it into >>your art. become a multimedia artist, or work closely with one and >>develop an approach that means something. >> >> >>Interestingly enough, I would probably prefer to perform with >>someone fingerpainting with a project (a la Joshua Light Show, >>Fillmore East, 1968) over someone manipulating video because of the >>greater immediacy and (literal and functional) fluidity of the >>former.... >> >>-- >>Warren >>http://www.warrensirota.com >>NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw >>http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld "Don't make book, if you cannot cover bets." -- Tom Lehrer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 03:57:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 891D13BE78; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B3C213A.2020109@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:57:46 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Warren Sirota wrote: *"I've played with unrehearsed, uncoordinated visuals on several occasions. I have not liked the results. As an audience member, I have frequently seen visuals that, while interesting enough, were so randomly related to the music that I had to shut my eyes in order to hear the music (forcing me not to see the performers, however boring or unboring they might have been)."* I hear what you are saying (or perhaps I should say, I see what you are saying), Warren, but what occurs to me is that it all depends on the quality and appropriateness of the visuals that accompany a looping artist (or any artist) even if they are uncoordinated and unrehearsed. I've actually played with a lot of really excellent interactive video artists in my own live looping career to varying degrees of success. I've also played a lot of shows with random visuals that seemed highly inappropriate or distracting. Let's face it, there are just some visual artists who just don't think musically and consequently don't accompany very well. But for all of those insensitive or perhaps just inexperienced video accompanists, there are wonderful artists like our own Dr. Emile Tobenfeld, Peter Knudsen (who did exquisite video improvisations for the Y2K8 Loopfestival in Santa Cruz), David Tristram (who does live interactive digital animation and has toured, doing world class visuals with people like the Dead and the Stones) or Henry Kaiser's exquisite set, creating a live 'soundtrack' to his amazing Antarctic under ice cap ocean videos. I don't know how many people caught Norwegian Peter Knudsens' work at Y2K8 but I thought it was beautifully enhancing to the whole experience and he 'read' the energy of every performance really effectively. I thought that Y2K8 was far more visually compelling in a way that enhanced performances than Y2K9 which had no video at all. In this way, some of the video was stylistically coordinated if not specifically rhythmically coordinated. I do have to say that after having a really hard time getting anyone to do visuals for the Y2K9 festival (mostly due to lack of time and energy because the festival became so overwhelming in the final three months before it happened) that when I see Jim Goodin's video sampler, it all looks depressingly drab after a few acts because the background lights were completely static. Y2K9 was arguably the strongest loop festival I've ever produced in terms of the overall level of all of the performances but it was visually mesmerizing in a way that, for me, weakened the impact. Of course, visually compelling live loopers certainly don't need extra visuals. I think of the amazing performance that Lumper/Splitter did at the Boise Creative Music Festival a couple of years back with their 'guitar' operation theme, or Margaret Noble spinning her rings on her miced table at Y2K8. There are also instances like Lili Lewis' brilliant solo voice (with only and RC2 and no effects) performance at the Y2K9 Festival where adding nothing was entirely the ticket. So, I think that all of these instances have to be taken on a performance to performance basis to really get an accurate analysis of the efficacy of adding video to live looping performances rather than deciding on a blanket assessment of augmentive or diminishing qualities of the same. And hey, guess what, that's exactly the same approach that needs to be taken with each live looping artists' performance style. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 08:30:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CB623BE77; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B3C6176.6090306@het.it> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:31:50 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo liverani User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; it; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Todd Chambeau Subject: Re: New Loop References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,<999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------050904090505000202090706" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:30:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050904090505000202090706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wanderful Todd! with this you have touched some deep chords inside me,
thing that let me remember that this community is made of fantastic people and fantastic musician...
yes the whole is more than the sum of its parts!
Thanky you for sharing with us your personal and precious feelings!

greeetings from Florence, Italy
Max Liver

Il 30/12/2009 18.02, Todd Chambeau ha scritto:

Loopers,

I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual.

Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.
It is through my EDP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY

Thanks
Todd Chambeau

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African Development Bank.
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Homepage. --0-361014557-1262260205=:6578-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 12:44:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0763D3BE7E; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type; bh=7JkCsKHUCf7qXorz1r5GkJEzLczkk/AsChk99sWSuBw=; b=M7wNXV0ty6hJNvqaFvkNE+3DEoJSybEbCrmLbUPa9ueiYctHIRsR5HcezMY8Ncs8lq +f4KtXCgff7b7kS0FnwrGC1mPz1JYSlclYazFipsMKIomBjcl7bAN6XEVJQWl0iuDE9F GgQwJjBpu8vHUfIeIDYiSEk+jQ6SggB8a/U3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; b=DOsMq9VHtctLO0qeP5S+T8i9d/38ZLwh02kVolbBEC3MTet0mVWmZ5+LJUxjNj+oxn 0r02nm1Ln93DfVuwiaxvdh1+fVshFmrKQjG/TI75cN3c+hEOeDFUqVhViIHVhzLZaTgU FBn5+0IJarhksqdXG39KBIlcATrbTTdWWZ7cI= Message-ID: <4B3C9CB9.4070406@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:44:41 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Album Release Notification: Rainer Straschill - The MoinSound Studio Sessions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070903000904090802010808" Resent-Message-ID: <2ik0AD.A.HlG.-yJPLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:44:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070903000904090802010808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MSSS Cover For those of you who've spent time listening to/watching my bi-weekly virtual concert series, this does not come as a surprise: an album compiling the highlights (from my point of view) of this series in 2009 has been released as "The MoinSound Studio Sessions " (or MSSS for short). But - and this explanation especially for those who haven't been "there" - what does it contain? MSSS can be seen as a combination of my trombone-and-vocals approach as presented on my 2008 World Tour and on the Wie gro� ist die Luft ? album, and the earlier, highly multi-instrumentalist work e.g. on Weird Specialist . The sessions, and those who have been following them dutifully (thanks again!) may second that, were as much a basis for experiments as they were a proper concert series - and with that comes the challenge to compile a somewhat coherent album from it - yet, with nearly ten hours of recorded music available, this can (and did) work. Musically, the usual freely-improvised approach which I've been following since 2000 is combined with heavy use of what people call "advanced looping techniques", making use especially of those clever EDP techniques of odd multiplys and SusOverdub, made even more complex by the application of Mobius' multiple tracks. The heavily effected trombone and vocal noises find companions in melodica, soprano saxophone, Eighties' synths, recorder, acoustic and electric guitar and bass guitar and bits of noise electronics. On eight proper tracks, divided evenly by three short intermezzos, the album goes from lush synth melodies ("Chronologically Gifted") to EDPified distorted guitar ("Leather Allergy"), from odd meters ("Sequencing Bad Mojo") to avantgarde-dub-reggae (with bass noises and screaming filtered delays on "Life in High-Dimensional Spaces") and all the way in between. The album is both available for download (FREE!) and for purchase - and although purchasing it costs dear money, I would go as far as suggesting it, because I believe the cover art just rules! Website Link: http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=282 Shop Link: http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00ZGZZXJ (And while you're there, you may as well take a look at my reorganized website) Any feedback is welcome! With all the best wishes for the coming year, Rainer ps: People who've been following my last releases will find that, unlike the last three albums, this one does not appear on Jamendo , rather on Bandcamp. Why is that, you ask? Unfortunately, Jamendo, which is a hosting service with listener and artist community for CC-licensed music, has gone the way of everything CC/free information/other forms of modern information managment in the French- or German-speaking world. While the idea of this and similar projects (wikipedia, archive.org,...) is to grant a free access to information both for authors and consumers, countries and nationalities with a tendency to certain stalinist/faschist practices are obviously not a place for this to work. The most stunning example is the German version of Wikipedia, which has been for some time firmly in the grasp of persons who oviously believe that the world of CC and free information is a proper playground for Blockwarts and Reichsf�hrer, out of their regular former jobs at least since the demise of the GDR. That means that (both in the case of German-language wikipedia and, in a worse form on Luxembourg-based jamendo) some personae hold a firm grip on which information they deem worthy and which one they do not (based on non-transparent rules of their own making). To avoid any confusion - it's not that anyone at Jamendo has actually declined my work, but keeping an album in the release queue for more than ten days without result while I can sign up, upload and start streaming in less than 30 minutes on Bandcamp clearly made Jamendo a no-go-area for me. -- http://moinlabs.de --------------070903000904090802010808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
For those of you who've spent time listening to/watching my bi-weekly virtual concert series, this does not come as a surprise: an album compiling the highlights (from my point of view) of this series in 2009 has been released as "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" (or MSSS for short).

But - and this explanation especially for those who haven't been "there" - what does it contain?
MSSS can be seen as a combination of my trombone-and-vocals approach as presented on my 2008 World Tour and on the Wie gro� ist die Luft ? album, and the earlier, highly multi-instrumentalist work e.g. on Weird Specialist.

The sessions, and those who have been following them dutifully (thanks again!) may second that, were as much a basis for experiments as they were a proper concert series - and with that comes the challenge to compile a somewhat coherent album from it - yet, with nearly ten hours of recorded music available, this can (and did) work.

Musically, the usual freely-improvised approach which I've been following since 2000 is combined with heavy use of what people call "advanced looping techniques", making use especially of those clever EDP techniques of odd multiplys and SusOverdub, made even more complex by the application of Mobius' multiple tracks. The heavily effected trombone and vocal noises find companions in melodica, soprano saxophone, Eighties' synths, recorder, acoustic and electric guitar and bass guitar and bits of noise electronics.

On eight proper tracks, divided evenly by three short intermezzos, the album goes from lush synth melodies ("Chronologically Gifted") to EDPified distorted guitar ("Leather Allergy"), from odd meters ("Sequencing Bad Mojo") to avantgarde-dub-reggae (with bass noises and screaming filtered delays on "Life in High-Dimensional Spaces") and all the way in between.

The album is both available for download (FREE!) and for purchase - and although purchasing it costs dear money, I would go as far as suggesting it, because I believe the cover art just rules!
Website Link: http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=282
Shop Link: http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00ZGZZXJ

(And while you're there, you may as well take a look at my reorganized website)

Any feedback is welcome!

With all the best wishes for the coming year,

�� Rainer

ps: People who've been following my last releases will find that, unlike the last three albums, this one does not appear on Jamendo, rather on Bandcamp. Why is that, you ask? Unfortunately, Jamendo, which is a hosting service with listener and artist community for CC-licensed music, has gone the way of everything CC/free information/other forms of modern information managment in the French- or German-speaking world. While the idea of this and similar projects (wikipedia, archive.org,...) is to grant a free access to information both for authors and consumers, countries and nationalities with a tendency to certain stalinist/faschist practices are obviously not a place for this to work. The most stunning example is the German version of Wikipedia, which has been for some time firmly in the grasp of persons who oviously believe that the world of CC and free information is a proper playground for Blockwarts and Reichsf�hrer, out of their regular former jobs at least since the demise of the GDR. That means that (both in the case of German-language wikipedia and, in a worse form on Luxembourg-based jamendo) some personae hold a firm grip on which information they deem worthy and which one they do not (based on non-transparent rules of their own making). To avoid any confusion - it's not that anyone at Jamendo has actually� declined my work, but keeping an album in the release queue for more than ten days without result while I can sign up, upload and start streaming in less than 30 minutes on Bandcamp clearly made Jamendo a no-go-area for me.

-- http://moinlabs.de
--------------070903000904090802010808-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 12:59:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79E043BE7C; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004201ca8a19$16abbe10$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,<999159.7852.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7CF79633-5234-4AD7-B95D-E649494E2873@comcast.net> Subject: Re: New Loop Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:59:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Very nice playing, Todd. I really enjoyed the way it developed from the simple beginning into something quite beautiful and unexpected. Thanks for sharing it with us. I hope to hear more of your music soon! Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Chambeau" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: New Loop > > Loopers, > > I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've > learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I > would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual. > > > Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video. > It is through my EDP. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY > > Thanks > Todd Chambeau > > From apache@ns354869.ovh.net Thu Dec 31 13:24:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ns354869.ovh.net (ns354869.ovh.net [91.121.114.182]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111453BE72 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns354869.ovh.net (dev.adyax.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns354869.ovh.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBVDDO8c021074 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:13:24 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by ns354869.ovh.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id nBVDDOTO021068; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:13:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:13:24 +0100 Message-Id: <200912311313.nBVDDOTO021068@ns354869.ovh.net> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: CONTACT THEM AND GET BACK TO ME has forwarded a page to you from Boris Tchoubanoff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Mailer: Drupal Errors-To: mtopolov@gmail.com Sender: mtopolov@gmail.com Reply-To: oficefile@neu.com.cn From: oficefile@neu.com.cn

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 14:07:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 327A23BE7F; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=siKK1WvKIEwHQYS+fyazMEKlWDboytoS0ZoKgHyUlE8=; b=W1u8NdrYSHmibQ3dZscusvkNmC2Ah+cJxHXyQvsXS7h1qW605BbFN9MAW/zl5DbsOk A9bf1Ge/QWTlQYgjbbz5WhtsKZskXbFa1tKk6/9MNrj/8CDV2X3NimRNLWIsHFJTopjy qlVpHP4J0bhrIfUmxDns/X4gimr+Dr0iD24V4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DpPnMe4qv6T1UXa7ViG2tI0S75S6hm5+0iOwTZ2lCk769Mwg53FaK0pD1V6knDJ/er E3zSFAnKSzmwaizPboWaiMqTVh66ZtECcgqvJryT4OkbUusAOc4KeJL5kNH+arqFweFV q1JrRfdYicY5QfBBfFZFQ4FWTtM3HJ1Y3EMiU= Message-ID: <4B3CB01B.9050605@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:07:23 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: videos and music and intention References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> <2871c3a90912300505s7b1317f7nec7d78aa7de26fb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912300726h4991cac8gc3bcc9be299f9258@mail.gmail.com> <0AC0F397-59DC-42B5-A8EE-EC3AD7734869@gmail.com> <4160D03B-5F37-4568-AA7C-568D8FDC7226@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <4160D03B-5F37-4568-AA7C-568D8FDC7226@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Ted, a little bit wisecracky again, and I'm sorry for that, but for me it makes a difference in what you're stating in your message: > > Vivaldi's "Rite of Spring" had nothing at all to do with my work and > might (even so) be wafting about on speakers somewhere but it didn't > bother me. > [...] > I doubt if anyone was there to hear the Vivaldi - though I am sure it > made the evening more pleasant (less tedious) for some. Are you referring to "La Primavera" (Spring) form "Le quattro Stagioni" (The Four Seasons) by Vivaldi, or rather "Le Sacre du Printemps" (The Rite of Spring) by Igor Stravinsky? While Vivaldi's Four Seasons had been "educated muzak" for a long time in galleries and chic restaurants alike (before they got replaced by Jarret's K�ln Concert), Stravinsky making the evening more pleasant would hint at a very appreciative crowd... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 14:25:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A50C3BE7F; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:25:18 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1NQLxm-0005r4-T5 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.468, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, TVD_RCVD_IP 1.93) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: <4y9K5.A.I2B.RRLPLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:25:21 +0000 (UTC) On Dec 30, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I don't think there's any single concrete element one can add to any > type of music to make people accept it more. By concrete elements, I'm > talking about things like video, audience participation, unusual > instruments, cowbell, synth washes, drum machines, etc. lol @ cowbell.. :-) Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net www.reyn.vs.reyn.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 15:06:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C8793BE79; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 986 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:06:22 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: videos and music and music sales From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0912300153k639c5c54p24ac1b1d29ff3342@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:49:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1B59D491-06D5-4946-BB38-59E6051FB45E@reyn.net> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0912300153k639c5c54p24ac1b1d29ff3342@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1NQMLY-0007eW-Ge X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.979, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_05 -1.11, TVD_RCVD_IP 1.93) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:06:23 +0000 (UTC) This is like the most funny email I read in ages.... and sooo right. ;-) Anyone seen Jon Brion doing his friday shows in Largo lately? He's doing = some really interesting video/music triggering with his looping.. Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net www.reyn.vs.reyn.net > Oh come on.. whats all this bollocks about visuals taking away from = the music.. What it does is takes the focus away from some slightly = podgy balding muso twiddling knobs and staring at a laptop, cos it fits = thankfully in a genre where one isnt expected to leap about and go = "Hello Cleveland!"=20 >=20 > Lets face it, our music is pretty challenging, but we LOOK fucking = boring!!=20 > If you are so serious a musician that you are worried that people = won=B4t listen to your poly-rhythms quite right or hear your subtle = overtones or contemplate the spiralling-morphic nature of the series of = ever-intertwining sound tones.. then you shouldnt be playing live at = all... >=20 > Of course visuals add something to the music, but the same can be said = of Lights, dancing, beer, or a bad PA.=20 >=20 > Myself, I have done shows where the visuals were MADE by the music, = Ive done shows where the singer was on video (My 80s bands technique = actually, drum-machine left audio and singer right audio and video) Ive = played along to old Black and White films, and my own films and Ive = played films backwards...=20 >=20 > Unfortunately I cant seem to do much about fat tummy, the grey hair = and I think my stage diving days at the end of the set days are sadly = over... >=20 > mark.. >=20 >=20 From vhost0014855@web04.nl03.pcextreme.nl Thu Dec 31 15:23:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 434 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:23:53 UTC Received: from vhosting-relay.mail.pcextreme.nl (vhosting-relay.mail.pcextreme.nl [85.92.129.251]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103C33BE72 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web04.nl03.pcextreme.nl (unknown [10.0.3.63]) by vhosting-relay.mail.pcextreme.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9904E715 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by web04.nl03.pcextreme.nl (Postfix, from userid 19855) id 2C9C81A8378; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:14:57 +0100 (CET) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: CONTACT HIM TODAY From: Mr. Gregor Williams Reply-To: garryblue_003@yahoo.com.hk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20091231151457.2C9C81A8378@web04.nl03.pcextreme.nl> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:14:57 +0100 (CET) Hello My Good Friend Good day and how are you today? 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Subject: From Mr. Benjamin Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:05:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20091231145923.588642A70AB@mail.palit.biz> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail Dear Sir/ Madam, My name is Benjamin Alpern. I am 58 years old, from Canada, semi retired and presently facing one of the biggest challenges of my life. I am honest, determined and ambitious to a reasonable degree. I am a close cousin of Ruth Alpern and I have worked as a consultant in procurements, supply and logistics mainly on supply contracts to the Far East, Asia and the Middle East. I am in search of a business partner for the purpose of logistics and assistance towards the administration and release of a huge amount of money, (USD 16.1m). 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 15:53:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 610953BE75; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8VCCnD2W7GLlgytdSsGqTew8/zYpmEFT507jxATfmVE=; b=c8urhQGSomRCgYv3ziTAmZ8l+QXzkqKfF1DMeOFSLOicYuc+rHtniMzd8koQ0IFuEp rg2Crh48AxKDTBR7l2RhaKSD5Xu5AykgGrJJanRqqnjnjKVwMIZJ9i29RCeBhUIkFx7M 0oxitnmzKCf/mAnRTSnhozmdTJ34xlt2habiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=OxvZb8QSNfQsP5Btj6YO9SsvXFmRj1B3CXeC/YQEg7tLDxJODvfdahtN7Qz9ODzdAX 1TPM0bLgOAo2dsxJrOj5SGzWOXR5SfM3c8XPd4mzzjy9uh2mQBqVI2k3i8VWsq1lZhie jy+Iu7P7iyGomtRXLBzqIuPaiP/ZIvqpXbfg0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:53:51 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 16225afd2963b039 Message-ID: <101191640912310753w19aeb345i64cfb3dabafa8554@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Happy New Year, Friends From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f860faf12c1f047c0842eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:53:53 +0000 (UTC) --001485f860faf12c1f047c0842eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, It's been a tough year for me (and for many around the world!), but this community has provided a consistent bright spot in my life. Thank you all for sharing your music, your insights, your techniques, and in many cases your friendship. It was so great seeing and meeting a lot of you at Y2K9 too! May next year be a great one for all of us! Best, Warren --001485f860faf12c1f047c0842eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,

It's been a tough year for me (and for many around the w= orld!), but this community has provided a consistent bright spot in my life= . Thank you all for sharing your music, your insights, your techniques, and= in many cases your friendship. It was so great seeing and meeting a lot of= you at Y2K9 too!

May next year be a great one for all of us!

Best,
Warren
--001485f860faf12c1f047c0842eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 15:56:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 921213BE79; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=UgCs2+jPVND1p2zJyPC+dnJidLVmdyMiUoGCxCECMI4=; b=cvTcAKUK8lnBllKKKDmlo7FVmI26eYKPjIAuSPbKC2j99F8RcZghxLkTw5OPU/2xQo Uwit/eiWEVQgBCD4BlHk6aT/Cam/36dfG4Yq8JvPrTtLjo7fbv+QJk0TGCfE8P+aKmnK k7Ijde873dlM9Cr9eXo1JpwrDa2V+Rc4NwC8k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QtSOzWFiFoQJvJaY3Dla6RHa28I23X6Yvi7OK9pEKb6PWYFN6eqNDSV/pVWn5tVYpC 2ICvHxE3PDDhQhWyYxD96t6+FECNE53i2f5WvYL5cGjiaJ7rVgq2jBYR85PbdrTsmyMY oi7u5OOL1Vqp9QqmWcC0ji6pFL6chFqkNC2VQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:56:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: My last mp3 of 2009 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi loopers, My last contribution of 2009, a semi-dark ambient soundscape which I recorded this morning during a rehearsal session. Nord Wave, Bidule, no Mainstage ;-) Enjoy and a happy 2010! http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/20091231.mp3 -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 15:59:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5C9A3BE7E; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=mfXI6HR+t8Zg5eKMDaDvXBjYqSmTV8XpnMAJ/ZKyFiQ=; b=I3kE8FTaxPGsvPRTcssmmE9CnSBy5H6k/6TfqdjbJ4bZUy1cTBPUZnRIOas0uy60SB cbSLUEjxFVSNGQDRv86pgpIr2Q69Su3Bt3rlL/TPKukYGqjRa1rpxVe7BwSu+nTfFpB8 Dzi5ARVNtk7pRHniZW85XEurusa56Sfrk0+Rs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=R4pxFWj75E0nmU2JFPiFmYJ0P9bAPCTkbIc6XAWv1gSRI+NImS84DkhhImS8PAxewM dhBF6OUfEdnhNvdIPAWZ7P3SeZPmiXvYY24R3RUdEFSYt0K+gEYlFeoA2FHuFhahxo4z Jtif3oYfW3G7yv+k5ylDkC7DOrfMBCehnAp8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:59:46 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0912310759s12e6d3abrd420e2fad8971f9d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: 'py YKX 2 U'll! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0S0eSC.A.R1E.3pMPLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Happy New Whatever! Keep the good loops coming! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 16:00:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B7F03BE7F; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eyHh1iWeojYlpLkXad/uOnsJP49xNlcqcrs3+qAhAfk=; b=Jpk3iSoHSEEyCJe0EwYPEnPkgEvPjR2icbC19Q3dYq2wYbTTmq/7ouYvU5NmDhjYq3 BXOVKJ+ptjvyoT44VEJTkjggSXvdMqhm3KS3FCeylTpqHZR0YRzdz+vNOEjWg12Y5yl0 2P9RiRLxIFEDcgzed9TcmQDl+E1D6TdNNb+pk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e0CZqidY/TnxQw+Q1Iz4+/7woX/bpT5CsihrFAY5XGmfTAU4u3JdUXKdHk9meUJnXc umNemGYPoE1Kdw4yvEMjbGLXZb9VskS1RaGvWabMd6da6hI+yqofvqJcgwGjHA2pyoJs fj1VONZ2kbl0TtGfhn3N/KhMUdXhifQBRbz60= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640912310753w19aeb345i64cfb3dabafa8554@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640912310753w19aeb345i64cfb3dabafa8554@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60912310800v3aa3ab98meea651d59f4c66e1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Happy New Year, Friends From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1eb0e5565de047c085b6b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:00:43 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1eb0e5565de047c085b6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Warren - Thanks and wishing you the best in 2010 and I hope it's a better one for you. It was great to connect again this past fall in Santa Cruz at Y2K, very inspiring times as you echo'd. Hope to see you sometime this new year at a gig, fest or along the way. All good things Jim On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Hi All, > > It's been a tough year for me (and for many around the world!), but this > community has provided a consistent bright spot in my life. Thank you all > for sharing your music, your insights, your techniques, and in many cases > your friendship. It was so great seeing and meeting a lot of you at Y2K9 > too! > > May next year be a great one for all of us! > > Best, > Warren > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --000e0cd1eb0e5565de047c085b6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Warren - Thanks and wishing you the=A0best=A0in 2010 and I hope it'= ;s a better one for=A0you.=A0 It was great to connect again this=A0past fal= l in Santa Cruz at Y2K, very inspiring times as you echo'd.=A0 Hope to = see you sometime this new year at a gig, fest or along the way.

=A0

All good things

=A0

=A0

Jim

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Warren Sirota = <wsirota@wsde= signs.com> wrote:

Hi All,

It's been a t= ough year for me (and for many around the world!), but this community has p= rovided a consistent bright spot in my life. Thank you all for sharing your= music, your insights, your techniques, and in many cases your friendship. = It was so great seeing and meeting a lot of you at Y2K9 too!

May next year be a great one for all of us!

Best,
Warren

= --
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgood= inmusic.com
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/china= paintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodin= music

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networkin= g...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodin= music

--000e0cd1eb0e5565de047c085b6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 16:19:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A24B73BE7F; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Vipre-Scanned: 00ABEBE70015D700ABED34-TDI Message-ID: <1AB4653E53FC4E8C96014406254EA00D@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <66f9cc1e0912310759s12e6d3abrd420e2fad8971f9d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0912310759s12e6d3abrd420e2fad8971f9d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Happy New Year to All Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:19:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Folks, Consider that despite the trouble worldwide this year that there have been some nice bits in there too. For instance many of us started using systems like Facebook in earnest to promote their work; quite a number of us have also progressed from online jamming to video-audio live streaming for performances (again, thanks to a few forward-thinking folks on this very list), and the great results continue! One should expect the best in the future, after the good gravel-path-dragging everyone's had the past few years. And so Happy New Year, as Oz celebrates entering 2010... "the year we make contact", hm? :) Cheers, Stephen Goodman * Twelve Days of Christmas #8 at 5pm GMT * http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 http://www.earthlight.tv http://www.ustream.tv/StephenGoodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 16:22:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FBFE3BE7E; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Pa0OczBA8+agONV6Ka5/O+aU7/W/PKB+QawwjBDa/VU=; b=frV7r/qcsDx6PZn298E+hHAoAudN1LFCGJhs0whC536a8DCk/MGl4tqw4d3xNG2dYF AnLKtdNWhL4Wo8i8l0m/LHpVzWDXQFTsAwqhvDeBoLCEa4EHPM9mVGSaQvp4t+EBcH1g WHOk6jxW79rIJUxBfi+xSKMT0qoeH51ZxpQQg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UUrbIPcodcGlljsEgn7UYc2cEDyA+9FVJwNSCTa4qeRD2OGwpPiKYQP0BT7QegJhmU vmPl+y7VjH6QJRiE6lvuvxWrgFpuBAyEWHD8Qrobpq0DH4dq+1iFAdheQv7ZaMovmBwz Fk84auw8qoaPFzaEQgMaz4qp+TcyrrMHpEZ3M= Message-ID: <4B3CCFBE.3060707@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:22:22 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My last mp3 of 2009 - OT! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:22:26 +0000 (UTC) > > Hi loopers, > My last contribution of 2009, a semi-dark ambient soundscape which I > To which I'd like this last contribution of 2009 (done yesterday). OT! No looping involved. It's more of a proof on concept, that you still can do nice stuff only using hardware synths (and a little bit of effects), and even sample-free. A great new year to everybody. You guys rock! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 16:28:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 326DC3BE75; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pa8i-E65Zd4P3y6zqAkA:9 a=COHR4gfswCd9GH4zXhDLIiAVSokA:4 Message-Id: <3DDB76E7-5B91-4C22-9D0F-C8587A64449C@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1AB4653E53FC4E8C96014406254EA00D@ELUK1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: HAPPY Y2KX X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:28:05 -0800 References: <66f9cc1e0912310759s12e6d3abrd420e2fad8971f9d@mail.gmail.com> <1AB4653E53FC4E8C96014406254EA00D@ELUK1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Happy New Year to all! Borrowing the words of a friend of mine (because I couldn't have put it better Myself): "I pray for peace, the end of war, the end of strife and futility, the flourishing of relationships, the healing of wounds, and that a truly lasting and profoundly liberating joy may elevate us all to a better, eternal world." Blessings to all of you. Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 16:29:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9500F3BE7E; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <101191640912310753w19aeb345i64cfb3dabafa8554@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Happy New Year, Friends Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:28:58 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 96.224.211.152 In-Reply-To: <101191640912310753w19aeb345i64cfb3dabafa8554@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Harry Weinberg X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC584D7D222411_9B54_7CB2B_webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30109-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC584D7D1AFFEE-9B54-3ED0A@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: HarryEsq@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:29:24 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CC584D7D222411_9B54_7CB2B_webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sentiments echoed from here. Happy New Year and good things to all. Regards, Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 -----Original Message----- From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2009 10:53 am Subject: Happy New Year, Friends Hi All, It's been a tough year for me (and for many around the world!), but this= community has provided a consistent bright spot in my life. Thank you all= for sharing your music, your insights, your techniques, and in many cases= your friendship. It was so great seeing and meeting a lot of you at Y2K9= too! May next year be a great one for all of us! Best, Warren =20 ----------MB_8CC584D7D222411_9B54_7CB2B_webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Sentiments echoed from here.= Happy New Year and good things to all.
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908

-= ----Original Message-----
From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2009 10:53 am
Subject: Happy New Year, Friends

Hi All,

It's been a tough year for me (and for many around the world!), but this= community has provided a consistent bright spot in my life. Thank you all= for sharing your music, your insights, your techniques, and in many cases= your friendship. It was so great seeing and meeting a lot of you at Y2K9= too!

May next year be a great one for all of us!

Best,
Warren

=3D ----------MB_8CC584D7D222411_9B54_7CB2B_webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 16:42:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B0D23BE78; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4GX_OOiDeMsoh5i0duAA:9 a=Em-5Fo4vEAxSjkwP05bH5maRb9YA:4 Message-Id: <7E7AA68A-B3EE-40ED-BBE8-08F0E637A69B@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640912310753w19aeb345i64cfb3dabafa8554@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Happy New Year, Friends Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:42:33 -0800 References: <101191640912310753w19aeb345i64cfb3dabafa8554@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Happy New Year Warren. May it truly be a better one. On Dec 31, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Hi All, > > It's been a tough year for me (and for many around the world!), but > this community has provided a consistent bright spot in my life. > Thank you all for sharing your music, your insights, your > techniques, and in many cases your friendship. It was so great > seeing and meeting a lot of you at Y2K9 too! > > May next year be a great one for all of us! > > Best, > Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 16:43:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 332583BE7E; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IohcgyEqAAAA:8 a=lBwTeLnZAAAA:8 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=PL0Tc1x-X7_ZQVJbbnwA:9 a=7S8C17qr0Qrq2a-5V_SY5ggXsToA:4 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: My last mp3 of 2009 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:43:05 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Loved the track Sjaak. On Dec 31, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi loopers, > My last contribution of 2009, a semi-dark ambient soundscape which I > recorded this morning during a rehearsal session. Nord Wave, Bidule, > no Mainstage ;-) Enjoy and a happy 2010! > > http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/20091231.mp3 > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ From ali.abdul38@yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 17:10:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from n19.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n19.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.146]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 10E503BE6F for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.194.243] by n19.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2009 17:09:55 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.81] by t1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2009 17:09:55 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.99] by t1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2009 17:09:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2009 17:09:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 805489.64311.bm@omp103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 9747 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Dec 2009 17:09:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262279394; bh=yM7ewsOy3hJrXndVU2tCaKxKDON2Mm2T/OSVOUABgAE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TzOsEBdbY6cov2cQ6Y0U/FngjAdUWtD/2GzIEAv0WscS6EjJr7q+m50waiBYBps2fJY0ieoWmXaSe9WB00zWxITYMkU/aCfJQGv+taVo0Byl2A0VvkM4oPoXexTLxJBtEDxxhuRfbmzjMSy5zEvgS/x3ggBQmeYb7WayRrzb4vA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OOxVAXfm8P49wymC6xox2MLn2Ds7baiSc0ino+krcBwcCyolbC/UenN9FcU5LfpK9ZUzjzcG06DK/4dUTb/T+McqRT9FdYbSmA9LtIT68TLKSru7/+ol8YsLrjKQhQSXIjId+1GrQSPPoKD/+P+9kzvIhawywJ8Vlt7FKrrRtzU=; Message-ID: <562997.9509.qm@web113909.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6UO95mIVM1m4vccjM79wS8ivc8RZKkp6pq..JulVRHKxf9C74yOzA.zYEG1TGwnXDu3LH4ukzPRM36XnrQO3nacuZwHUQr5gxTBCfjMz98wyAIJwxwyb2U8JkJFQtdNo8mCqzC8ZQ3_bXAgUgE1wmoQyNHSJumRpw34GJl8BxBHZ6azVC7BYX8IOcshpXNs3.sma8J5d3nj4.eUzKJCcjLWKWq7NXOaoA3MfX4EWPC88DuYdz9lrdxgyD662f0OKkG2k9eiVJzRvYoCyR..EJl1fgcc.IpGJP6CdSXKY5qs.jLnEwvhHRhdjA184.0laCbSMltvxZsJt7D7PsilfKaX_JYoeO..AfI1xGX.5ZN9NrznVdPhr.mphP6S50le.Pd_tsaKX0Ee6XgXc7qW7fdPb1.jt1wl9p05MnSn.ATcvav7qbI0MMIWPOc5dwnnMsOVmrNuB441U1Pr7WfrjKw.OC5nSbgdS868qp8OY54ANpkq7fkz7aAjdlvlUnoLLhdv9Wiwlwek8C4bnjFfxpScJCLNuQVm9l9S91kWJxVUp4DAMtbL5VmQBLlBvAXutGac3Gdz8jsIcjS183HbctE1YHbD9NsoJyaPHWcw4cQQyngHtInh_1IKg8_n9lA1GhsyZ6wAuK96rdgxfDt49u3lPSYC22cju4V3sRSZJJsUSmCfNJr6m6z.qzX3ys0vI6fH99lGq9UFvZ0073ukiSBxp_Q6AtYOt_mkFcfHM1_D7z7XKPTdI0tbXexf6O4SuvNOF3ewjFkKbUGwuYRqp67orGS48Jm0LTGvwM7Hug_Qebvf2PrL4r2vlQkSGNQsw6ExwY9KD9x6pCZ59MOXdb1g5xLkCn87CAXrOec68SEs9iB_HY2q4YMaK1CoQ4omvoDIy5no.4OhDQN1B8SyOiguUKn0.QuMjiT7bwA.yFGH_jDxSP.h7DifI1pvLEbkPlYpWEBodwBWyROKaXNWaRHylaHIZftg.yJOEEuv5qOmCwOmq0LnzXmWWRrM_JUib5eOYLIoGV_Zx.KJGrvWKWgLJ61TuX8FOer8CZsTLZCKHucyB6Q6IOLmlqe6mazE0Le8GtBzCZbE0x2Yu.QSADds4G_hGAs1otQx75GioA8j9xBcuDjs4i8qt5NwsTg9PcdmEu3BiNEq0sM7fB_aT1w.4EZSEQEKLmAyuPQmsZqtXu6mYZyO2i3G.VLuoZMc- Received: from [41.203.237.253] by web113909.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:09:54 PST X-RocketYMMF: abdu.ladeed01 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:09:54 -0800 (PST) From: ALI ABDUL Reply-To: ali.abdul38@yahoo.com Subject: TRANSACTION OPPORTUNITY To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-512537701-1262279394=:9509" --0-512537701-1262279394=:9509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 =A0 =A0 Dear Friend,=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 I know this may come as surprise and sceptic to you. My Name is Mr Ali Abdu= l.=A0 I am one of the officials in the Energy management board in Burkina F= aso, West Africa. We had a contract with Denmark through the Burkina Faso D= anish Cooperation, which was signed on the 4th of march, 2008 on the Electr= ification of the Urban centres, offices and rural dwellers. The project has= been executed, you can check on the website. www.sonabel.bf=20 =A0 But, the main issue of contacting you is to intimate you that during the aw= ard of this contract, a few of my colleagues and l=A0 had inflated the amou= nt of this contract and the OVER- INVOICED is being safeguarded under our c= ustody. However, we have decided to transfer this sum of money,=A0Thirty mi= llion Us dollars ($9.3million=A0Us Dollars) out of this Country for disburs= ement.=A0 Hence, we seek for a reliable,honest and not greedy foreign partn= er whom we shall use his or her account for transferring the fund. And we a= greed that the account owner shall benefit 30% of the total amount of money= , 65% is for us here, and 5% will be used for miscellaneous expenses during= the transfer. =A0 If you are capable to handle the transaction without hitches and flaws, the= n we have confidence in the business =A0and a risk free transfer from our s= ide. Please, make it TOP SECRET and avoid every channel of implicating us h= ere thereby endanger our career. Therefore, if you will not be able to handle it,please hold on your peace f= or our sake we are public servants. I pray to God for his providence for a = smooth transfer, so that our retiring soon or later will be a better and bl= issful retirement life, as such we are very cautious towards actualising th= is noble venture. It can also be a once in life opportunity for you, becaus= e l know that we are going to see face-face, preferably come down to Burkin= a Faso and verify on the claim on the said amount of money in the bank. Bes= ides, to discuss business and investment in your country at large, and ther= eafter sit together to decide on the means of transferring.=A0 =A0 Waiting for your urgent respond. Please, time is no longer on our side. =A0 Best regards, Mr Ali Abdul.=0A=0A=0A --0-512537701-1262279394=:9509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I know this may come as surprise and = sceptic to you. My Name is Mr Ali Abdul. I am one of the officials in= the Energy management board in Burkina Faso, West Africa. We had a contrac= t with Denmark through the Burkina Faso Danish Cooperation, which was signe= d on the 4th of march, 2008 on the Electrification of the Urban centres, of= fices and rural dwellers. The project has been executed, you can check on t= he website.

www.sonabel.bf=

But, the main issue of contacting you= is to intimate you that during the award of this contract, a few of my col= leagues and l had inflated the amount of this contract and the OVER- = INVOICED is being safeguarded under our custody. However, we have decided t= o transfer this sum of money, Thirty million Us dollars ($9.3million&n= bsp;Us Dollars) out of this Country for disbursement. Hence, we seek = for a reliable,honest and not greedy foreign partner whom we shall use his = or her account for transferring the fund. And we agreed that the account ow= ner shall benefit 30% of the total amount of money, 65% is for us here, and= 5% will be used for miscellaneous expenses during the transfer.

If you are capable to handle the tran= saction without hitches and flaws, then we have confidence in the business = and a risk free transfer from our side. Please, make it TOP SECRET an= d avoid every channel of implicating us here thereby endanger our career.

Therefore, if you will not be abl= e to handle it,please hold on your peace for our sake we are public servant= s. I pray to God for his providence for a smooth transfer, so that our reti= ring soon or later will be a better and blissful retirement life, as such w= e are very cautious towards actualising this noble venture. It can also be = a once in life opportunity for you, because l know that we are going to see= face-face, preferably come down to Burkina Faso and verify on the claim on= the said amount of money in the bank. Besides, to discuss business and inv= estment in your country at large, and thereafter sit together to decide on = the means of transferring.

Waiting for your urgent respond.
Please, time is no longer on our side= ..

Best regards,
Mr Ali Abdul.
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=0A=0A=0A Need mail bonding? = Bring all your contacts to Yahoo!Xtra with TrueSwitch --0-512537701-1262279394=:9509-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 17:22:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAA243BE7C; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=vwsWuNfr2L5fXJW78IAvzhFb1Opt1pdUJHt0MfmoV0E=; b=mrCiijKHFYR44tl70EDsHVtHspMDDWmqW/WVFXDfP1dkV01ehP0kLsNom10jzi4aCH qJWnW/vgFsm2iOjooTgv060tFTLekVKeSy3BwuyfokeLDMz960b9rYANz2gPn2Qu1bhc iYtgStmgv+hNE9IM1PT85fyVCPZm7l3mkLw5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jlpObS0PO/xKTt5ZfkfjTsCHEjaUnXJeUQEkuKghu+jT575YcNw+wPYZC6QqrXEEVt HYrPptJBDp0CfJgkgjZsgl0JH1mTRrOQthi4/IQnbPC1bJLwzpo5GGePpq+5cEOk1Zo9 uimSW/bHMep7TY6rzHQRcWQ1ceOtWulxlNzGs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:22:40 -0500 Message-ID: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> Subject: little spacey + bidule = no worky From: james fowler To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd644089b39f4047c0980b9 Resent-Message-ID: <6xaIrC.A.2uC.h3NPLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:22:41 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd644089b39f4047c0980b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 anybody else out there running into problems with little spacey crashing bidule? the program functions but as soon as you double-click to open the gui, bidule shuts down. thanks. - jim --000e0cd644089b39f4047c0980b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anybody else out there running into problems with little spacey crashing bi= dule?=A0 the program functions but as soon as you double-click to open the = gui, bidule shuts down.

thanks.

- jim
--000e0cd644089b39f4047c0980b9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 18:23:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FBAB3BE78; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lWqdkizTRTKbuz594yzqXRwbufMK7y20ObGo04BrVW0=; b=veDyCnk+5gEMJ6EBjk+7ZirtDSbvWuWGJWnE212bBiG5m7j/pi3dB1y264u8cnPrRB TFKhIFO+sac5V54ME3QaMDy6a9maatSDN/m+SwIFHgcxAuFUQYhnZfnXtf+lJMrjYFrm w3Zn/IN3sJb581t6O1GwgSCFlZZICSUwGJaE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=C+X/pskWUA+zz5tJmu+sJ9BONhRYlYYJYX+fjLK0dzxTeMZ81kzE7PuuhtInIN/sTo H2k0B1su7hC5gdR8vnncu/cgaxHW3j8PV6+IcC3URfAswa00qg5BiOB/3WbUXb5Pqgz/ r2hBo0f1seO+JGmStkukPz833E9sp+tqc1N0s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:23:33 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 33fb5f2d74e1a150 Message-ID: Subject: Re: little spacey + bidule = no worky From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: james fowler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7niaZD.A.ELD.owOPLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jim, I replied on KvR. cheers, os. 2009/12/31 james fowler : > anybody else out there running into problems with little spacey crashing > bidule?=A0 the program functions but as soon as you double-click to open = the > gui, bidule shuts down. > > thanks. > > - jim > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 18:39:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F3BC3BE7C; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Bep2edHnqmcq8OfTeuO3NGyx8Nof5j9otwMoWawak64=; b=nzBOtjwRx7veKCNAN1pVbKkaQAN5wfdDJJCow+YJ5ccSoC05YwCXOlTMfVbhDNIehP hP9oTu51o1cyrV9UrxZjpyzyzu+X7mIziqtfxx1kZvlkzA7PImJJ77+CjJRxDc66fHlo jM+qADVikaJ9wKXBa2KoVZxgiKA2Ux687oNVo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pkL6BgEWZwlDIeeEJkJscwGZsK4g4FeRQwQMPPbaJfGcHbeuJ+0SKonsJqYVBdcPEh ixXvEH9i9oVzd9z7aRitKA0v/F0gwAmQteXUmBrw5P7NVTbvijJbylUIJy/mK//19ZhC S+vMBNyXYw/VjopIUpSzNB5ioBl5CoHAyVh44= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:38:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: little spacey + bidule = no worky From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:39:00 +0000 (UTC) The mp3 I uploaded today to the list was done in Bidule with Little Spacey, works fine. I'm using Bidule 0.9695 -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 18:49:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76AF63BE79; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ovIU2U3UfRDutI4YPSuSDfLMbHxp+c7bu4pBwoPRqa4=; b=YAm0EXLfLduAstEP2zyCr2aE18JtUhp7nLWgZ4/XxfVLx5hsFnUw44O+p6eV3l0ozv QJbhCxOFAQyV26iWvpCUfiBkojdJbAZDjjzkR4aYqCmgUSj8+aM7jRVF4BjunlQAlvj9 PIPVHilp+ZYpq3M8ueGpdTLUV+qRhg742nv4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Z0UgSF6njPbHZH/gVo0tBVpDLFOTr3zv7dvsIvwxMbD9d5humT9aAnJ5iq7UKKDb9G w93NA0sBBzPLqHI8td9h9RkxjsUja76vpZOj84w17rx2Y0eQhhAjVkXFpb4i755RTlBi YKz/EUTmSqGs6y74JtZVc/wwraY2xl92eEwj0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4160D03B-5F37-4568-AA7C-568D8FDC7226@charter.net> References: <565035.47996.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2E67105CEB444B7C890414837FC8B275@jtc> <4B3B3EEF.9030903@mnet-online.de> <2871c3a90912300505s7b1317f7nec7d78aa7de26fb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640912300726h4991cac8gc3bcc9be299f9258@mail.gmail.com> <0AC0F397-59DC-42B5-A8EE-EC3AD7734869@gmail.com> <4160D03B-5F37-4568-AA7C-568D8FDC7226@charter.net> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:49:30 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c8aa2491fe4850a8 Message-ID: <101191640912311049k44ec63ebnc220f780dd7ffd60@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: videos and music and intention From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f911fc21708e047c0ab771 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:49:32 +0000 (UTC) --001485f911fc21708e047c0ab771 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very interesting response, Ted. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > > > It did not concern me what sort of wine was being served nor what the > cheese and hors d'oeuvres plate looked like. > > Vivaldi's "Rite of Spring" had nothing at all to do with my work and migh= t > (even so) be wafting about on speakers somewhere but it didn't bother me. > What about Stravinsky's? That was their business, I was just a painter. > > Yeah, but your painting has (excuse me if this is a misstatement) *no* aural element. OTOH, my performance has at least some visual element; in fact, misguided tho I might be, I actually *want* people to be watching me = - I believe my body language and facial expressions inform and enhance the perception of what I'm doing. I believe that's true of you too, Ted (the inform and enhance part, i wouldn't know about the want part), on the evidence of several performances. > > People come for different aspects of the experience - often without > actually even realizing it. > I would certainly agree to that. > > > But, if it ever comes to the point that artful music itself becomes > generally less "valid" because the musician is not also a great dancer, > video auteur, standup comedian, story-teller, magician, juggler, > jack-of-all-trades, plus is also a physically beautiful specimen, bon viv= ant > and a bit of a slut as well, then most of us are really and truly sunk an= d > may as well go home. > > Well, you can say that again. I "signed up" to be a musician, not necessarily a creator of musically-triggered flying icons. Nor did I sign u= p to be a promoter. Nor am I likely to ever be able to do either of those things well! (or dance myself and choreograph a troupe of gorgeous twenty-somethings, all the while loop-synching with an air guitar). Look (my favorite Obama-ism), MTV forever changed popular music from an audio medium to a 3-minute abstract drama/dance medium. Lady Gaga understands that perfectly. But we're not talking about mass popularity here, we're talking about being able to hold the attention of the audience whose attention you seek. People mostly are happy to watch singers sing and dancers dance. For us instrumentalists (a broader category than we are here= , of course), a more dedicated audience from the start is kind of required. Are we "truly sunk"? Ummm, sorry to say, as far as that multi-million dolla= r record deal, that ship may have sailed for you and me, Ted. :-( Oh, and btw I'm happy to be a bit of a slut, if only the opportunity presents! :-) > That's the sort of message the music industry has encouraged for an > eternity and a day. > > or at least since MTV. --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --001485f911fc21708e047c0ab771 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very interesting response, Ted.

On Wed, D= ec 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

It did not concern me what sort of wine was being served nor what the chees= e and hors d'oeuvres plate looked like.

Vivaldi's "Rite of Spring" had nothing at all to do with my w= ork and might (even so) be wafting about on speakers somewhere but it didn&= #39;t bother me.

What about Stravinsky's?

That was their business, I was just a painter.

Yeah, but your painting has (excuse me if this is a m= isstatement) *no* aural element. OTOH, my performance has at least some vis= ual element; in fact, misguided tho I might be, I actually *want* people to= be watching me - I believe my body language and facial expressions inform = and enhance the perception of what I'm doing. I believe that's true= of you too, Ted (the inform and enhance part, i wouldn't know about th= e want part), on the evidence of several performances.

People come for different aspects of the experience - often without actuall= y even realizing it.

I would certainly agree to th= at.

But, if it ever comes to the point that artful music itself becomes general= ly less "valid" because the musician is not also a great dancer, = video auteur, standup comedian, story-teller, magician, juggler, jack-of-al= l-trades, plus is also a physically beautiful specimen, bon vivant and a bi= t of a slut as well, then most of us are really and truly sunk and may as w= ell go home.

Well, you can say that again. I "signed up&q= uot; to be a musician, not necessarily a creator of musically-triggered fly= ing icons. Nor did I sign up to be a promoter. Nor am I likely to ever be a= ble to do either of those things well! (or dance myself and choreograph a t= roupe of gorgeous twenty-somethings, all the while loop-synching with an ai= r guitar).

Look (my favorite Obama-ism), MTV forever changed popular music from an= audio medium to a 3-minute abstract drama/dance medium. Lady Gaga understa= nds that perfectly. But we're not talking about mass popularity here, w= e're talking about being able to hold the attention of the audience who= se attention you seek. People mostly are happy to watch singers sing and da= ncers dance. For us instrumentalists (a broader category than we are here, = of course), a more dedicated audience from the start is kind of required. A= re we "truly sunk"? Ummm, sorry to say, as far as that multi-mill= ion dollar record deal, that ship may have sailed for you and me, Ted. :-( =

Oh, and btw I'm happy to be a bit of a slut, if only the opportunit= y presents! :-)
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That's the sort of message the music industry has encouraged for an ete= rnity and a day.

=A0or at least since MTV.=A0

-- <= br>Warren
http://www.warrensirot= a.com
NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
--001485f911fc21708e047c0ab771-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 19:25:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1336A3BE79; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 2010 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:25:19 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.253.50.12 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30272-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC58661FA80AF7-1BAC-2C4B@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:25:37 +0000 (UTC) i can't say if it was good/ bad year.....but holy shit, it was a super=20 fast year.....a very fast decade!.....so everybody put on your temporal=20 seat belts, it's going to be a wild ride.....a blessed tamri to all my=20 LD FAMILY!.....:)m =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 19:29:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A44A3BE81; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=oZB0aj1ZyKgjmTqVgVQA:9 a=1K3vFdjOfVy5wIJk-qyobwXyC-IA:4 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 Message-Id: <1C50D28B-39CE-4B19-9101-CABDC62E87B0@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CC58661FA80AF7-1BAC-2C4B@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: 2010 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:29:47 -0800 References: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> <8CC58661FA80AF7-1BAC-2C4B@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Same back at you my Klobie1 On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > i can't say if it was good/ bad year.....but holy shit, it was a > super fast year.....a very fast decade!.....so everybody put on your > temporal seat belts, it's going to be a wild ride.....a blessed > tamri to all my LD FAMILY!.....:)m > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 19:47:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FE993BE79; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=d+6b8rFxY2AAdLFE3v+LgchHlo8/AhraaWh6h09s5cs=; b=YEzgiJwejyuelIswEbSSmqd6evXgO4EqlVx26bGcOCJkeM6ryHXA84wFthBGVF0141 DS4gv9RpLQ4Q2Rt5QoejHNX97pyWFXDYEoEeiDRIN0iK/nLPvWVvoO6DUIYZM9jI+XAF +UH7bC3/rddN03k4j6Ia4m9cloBG8hmF5DwFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=xJyUCfzu+8/TS6lMCk/IKar1SmEjR/tuFeliKvq4Dwtpt58KMJTOSfmeap3Yh16hUn nxT9DRX9OL9HNL/qk/xdjeuahUtr/As+CLZncFRmIOSJsWzza+NYWyNEgPeaqeUUnpTQ o7RaVAIvO4vjOUHdgeqGQo3LR+5LMaLJeVH+E= Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1C50D28B-39CE-4B19-9101-CABDC62E87B0@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: 2010 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:46:28 +0100 References: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> <8CC58661FA80AF7-1BAC-2C4B@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> <1C50D28B-39CE-4B19-9101-CABDC62E87B0@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:47:03 +0000 (UTC) the year had its ups and downs for me too - as usual - but i don' mind =20= telling you, the last 2 days have been terrible. here's hoping for a =20 turn for the better next year - tomorrow, that is all the best to you all doc On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:29 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Same back at you my Klobie1 > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > >> i can't say if it was good/ bad year.....but holy shit, it was a =20 >> super fast year.....a very fast decade!.....so everybody put on =20 >> your temporal seat belts, it's going to be a wild ride.....a =20 >> blessed tamri to all my LD FAMILY!.....:)m >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 20:25:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C7EB3BE71; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ClDljrB3HlxgDxdYbwd9MAG8VDCb8C940LzYbi5JPD8=; b=r0JindRXBZrGzrb0PbK58vdvfzJFENrgfOpaie4wohmpjcaJ+VEX7BA5RaDIzDwpav WJ+gKeJXkkYgj2uhd4vzcztu1YAVqrIMA1oZdJjfKPqTPD0Cv6b6er5m6yK1dUP997tB 14RJA+PAtBBu7QCbZpjxBGv1zodesmibewA4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NNKBDt0iavA3c1++JqF94oX5Mj8CNH+Cr6bT734geLshLnO8mLHVmsVT2DU9Vu2apr RDbGkVMzPY8EifkDCeMRf3sc0ebS+J7Rw3Re0VnYpc0gfNxFPcoioxuJp9QAIqps32LP icP72HhaBpjQbj8cf6bTR3g7cMmSXEsSpDPCk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> <8CC58661FA80AF7-1BAC-2C4B@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> <1C50D28B-39CE-4B19-9101-CABDC62E87B0@charter.net> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:25:01 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8565042b6bec9fe9 Message-ID: <101191640912311225j35d8547ay3b6dd5ec54de616f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 2010 From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f9ed60bafcde047c0c0c37 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (UTC) --001485f9ed60bafcde047c0c0c37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Best to you, doc. My sympathies for your troubles, may they be behind you. On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 2:46 PM, doc rossi wrote: > the year had its ups and downs for me too - as usual - but i don' mind > telling you, the last 2 days have been terrible. here's hoping for a turn > for the better next year - tomorrow, that is > > all the best to you all > > doc > > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:29 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > Same back at you my Klobie1 >> >> On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >> >> i can't say if it was good/ bad year.....but holy shit, it was a super >>> fast year.....a very fast decade!.....so everybody put on your temporal= seat >>> belts, it's going to be a wild ride.....a blessed tamri to all my LD >>> FAMILY!.....:)m >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --001485f9ed60bafcde047c0c0c37 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Best to you, doc. My sympathies for your troubles, may they be behind you.<= br>
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 2:46 PM, doc ross= i <docittern@gm= ail.com> wrote:

the year had its = ups and downs for me too - as usual - but i don' mind telling you, the = last 2 days have been terrible. here's hoping for a turn for the better= next year - tomorrow, that is

all the best to you all

doc

On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:29 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

Same back at you my Klobie1

On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

i can't say if it was good/ bad year.....but holy shit, it was a super = fast year.....a very fast decade!.....so everybody put on your temporal sea= t belts, it's going to be a wild ride.....a blessed tamri to all my LD = FAMILY!.....:)m

--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com">http://www.warrensirota.com
N= EW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
--001485f9ed60bafcde047c0c0c37-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 20:35:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 684003BE78; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=sn9AgpsxadCLCx3ZiJJMYiH4biKz3KqIOXR1yfbwxjE=; b=BkNM50CL/48MwTnB8xduxVA/kDbYgGh0g2fTKy6OvHMoHPOMTpjmY3Cv9v6bAWMbC1 TtFmQ2OyTXkfinEM/Y9oYJKs2ik/LSxdrtYbsD50nLJGC/kznGGVbfLEIT2h87l+xvDs UvJ96t9ZtRuaprI+yXkOLljUM08kDgLb/libI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=Vhj/MiHG7RcCT5Hu5JMeWCm+tmUP3NKTnaZBurDAwK3b7Th4Rh2tg9J9O8orkJnlE7 E+tz3wVfoltKFEzrNHYbqgtFkkH3wy0ImPOBdjRX7G4AuPORDk+zbUg1i2LMlsuk24iE MEjSpKMO1hQAOkj4TzdedD4b+j0IfF9BWfKTE= Message-Id: <8FA27079-23E1-49E1-8B18-69B0A8154B6D@gmail.com> From: eterogeneo To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <3DDB76E7-5B91-4C22-9D0F-C8587A64449C@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7C144) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7C144) Subject: Re: HAPPY Y2KX Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:35:03 +0100 References: <66f9cc1e0912310759s12e6d3abrd420e2fad8971f9d@mail.gmail.com> <1AB4653E53FC4E8C96014406254EA00D@ELUK1> <3DDB76E7-5B91-4C22-9D0F-C8587A64449C@charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Peace, love and happiness to you all ! Fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 21:07:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0E4B3BE77; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8CC58661FA80AF7-1BAC-2C4B@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> References: <44e368750912310922o75c63417lab8bb76a2f1fc669@mail.gmail.com> <8CC58661FA80AF7-1BAC-2C4B@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2B4F3A81-E2B1-46DF-9B05-6B3FBA0E7BB1@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: OT: Re: 2010 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:07:39 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:07:45 +0000 (UTC) On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:25 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > i can't say if it was good/ bad year.....but holy shit, it was a > super fast year.....a very fast decade!.....so everybody put on > your temporal seat belts, it's going to be a wild ride.....a > blessed tamri to all my LD FAMILY!.....:)m EVERY year is a "good/ bad" year. Has there ever been a year in history that truly wasn't it, at least to varying degrees of both good and bad? If so, I'd like to know what year that was? Good / bad, bad/ good. Every year has both and likely always will. Such is the nature of Life and the Universe. The "trick" to me personally is how I react, respond, adapt, change, etc to whatever comes along, good or bad. And also, to continue to try to further minimize my own personal negative footprints (of which we ALL have, no matter how hard we try to do otherwise) and to also try to help others / the Earth in whatever ways that I can, or am reasonably capable of, along with hopefully learning some constructive / productive / etc lessons afterwards whenever something bad does comes along. Blessed be to all on the LD list, and remember...."As Ye go, harm Thee none". (etc...) (or at least try yer hardest to avoid doing so...) :-) Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR PS- I totally agree on the 'but holy shit, it was a super fast year.....a very fast decade!' comment above by Sir Nemo! TOO fast! Oh well, maybe this just the old cliche "Time flies when you are having fun" coming true...yet again? (Or....?) So, in the immortal words of Edward Ka-Spel (Legendary Pink Dots): "Sing, while you may!". :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 22:29:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C38BE3BE73; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262298556; bh=ugfJ9meaJAd29LVKzkVg0F1Nqpl9wLrQqcySGrdu5iY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Kv69wzf9kEE2Wdy+hf+CrtlEO/UvoN6jdiLPqDvfCOzW/U/CUBNrqt5O8h05dt5TtbRtJeX+i6Dh/RhaG8T1/SeVZxKxq0QEH9QOGcq/8C6+epMcf6XgUJ9s4u7eAFTFH2Q1UPzlk11Jo9lQeJJwhoVCvd+B+TzIaCr5yd3p7SU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E13kRlEckApcuYOLPqBI0TRhkz/tfe7lvZIiQLMidDStgWjQIyWRn5D5dazaBASUc3bOAsoJoCDjCqjRSSy9Qj6+p0TCqrhLTD29nK1VC8foXUs2ieQStRAUxmFpmuz2v8ulGwNNPROyt1oUbttlxUb+dfCUKbjnYSw8GzWlVrI=; Message-ID: <13131.75788.qm@web55207.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iyuI6p8VM1nEY55nawVfNLIK686oAXn4.guPNji02sImY.2yY4wvE2XTLQ.5z8qQ5gyw6XDgXWxJwt_4i.KbvH5LzNlHW_IVunMgNsqKJ9KSur1xSFYr7ez4CZk0SJaHb3mmavInJASyj8NlSpt2.cjZVFNyG1zDTyJCoLoIooQuWekpZx88XvIaOLQJQbNiK.GR4NUU69BooojGezmivZDB87prPZn.JsSk3vrlV.GWlZgY_evsLpwzU1yZyUd1VIpoY9ioFjXmzwxxXzm7yRfzeZXq7fkPXI1M2NWjCXka_GLPubC3Xd6M7yeRcFBCeMfmBV5HAGgDVo1Fg.Rs_SILeKl1Av_F80WbDmbATVgnDkcSQ8N1mTDtuzrrVo2zaO04K02po3_FZm9AXGIoFS6QNyGy2CMvoPOYBcY- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:29:15 -0800 (PST) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: Looping and video and music SALES... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1141145911-1262298555=:75788" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:29:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-1141145911-1262298555=:75788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lots of good points being raised.=A0 =0A=0AInterestingly, everyone here see= med to answer from a live performance persepctive. And on that front, I agr= ee with the sentiment finding that video and music can compliment eachother= , but when randomly associated they tend to distract from eachother and res= ult in a bit of a mess.=0A=0ABut putting live performance aside for a momen= t - has anyone experienced / noticed that music their sales/downloads incre= ased when they added a "video"?=0A=0ADavid=0AUNDO=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/= undomusic =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-1141145911-1262298555=:75788 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=0A=0A --0-1141145911-1262298555=:75788-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 22:34:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B3B33BE79; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262298856; bh=Ngkw0YaiRKkfqhu8UsW0s7koK8ownYjyVG4lZiB6Lbo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mMZ2mWZyHmhjcnwiD91gDYfFCWA9rXNw1tncP5FQ8cvDFJEO/T6wIZV4Lgwyat3vWg6hqyC7PdEGCebhoQET8C73LeFaw6ZId5gxywUkmsq1SGyOuH3JU3aXtmiiCR3xZwjxxZsZdN++GFzFDk/89mPhwJYbQTRjUyyavSSEuGs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cCgThkmbrELLOCpQjrNgv/Rqe+y3NIlmp0LvkxLl+2Vt9XWe2nOHIc5Bes++mv9DOSFCxuCmq2i9bRGME2pVN0WFG0I/pqKXNT5QdT0TIT8Ic5PisbQz4OcO8gZyEmT32OAte2sApLeFZlOcCUrh4mUp+XGUIA9p3VMXKLPmdRg=; Message-ID: <739263.96181.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3g5B9qEVM1kT52faYWAu2N5tebNUlWz2T.teZ7LAo027mKFZhm1Ntyyqqy8O9DTGkJCvIAdrwkAN93vjKTZaKSF5meqBr.xpH6tppdFn21RBsX5PhNhodcShNQI2mHOShbKYlzuSTa4vPOKC0SBNbtAWkqLzKCRY4Z9m5.YTsXXA_Z_ng_RwnodafHog2SOPGjvSvq.Q3Gx.Owh_VbNioe9ezQeK_2reZ.Q8jC2tLBRBnYIO2fXTRgGiBGWEtXyGIeJXIc9LmnYq25Vu2Mo.XLKYOXbVZzPuvtjRzePmGR7TgE_eUiGRFFAkcA3VNEwgpAgRdc8snLGwIus8Kuvac48zili1_ze20PQt32NEnqYOqqs_alm_f6DpkZ43ft2eGPXBOdn7gfWj2dpED9Hn1FruXPNRKZLiet_QsbU5gSzDmX_pAVRZknTiYLREqDk7CQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:34:16 -0800 (PST) From: david kirkdorffer Subject: Happy New Year! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1707212090-1262298856=:96181" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:34:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-1707212090-1262298856=:96181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy New Year - =0A=0AJan 1 has looped around again!=A0=A0 What will we ad= d to this pass?=A0 :-)=0A=0ADavid=0AUNDO=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/undomusic= =0A=0A=0A --0-1707212090-1262298856=:96181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=0A= =0A --0-1707212090-1262298856=:96181-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 22:56:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69D2E3BE73; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=j8XJmE9MjIW/rEkjVDLfmMgLrhjM9jnSkSNaSpv1vuqlGMb+pRNj3QQ2smPDlp47BfaS4IDnNL+5SUhecJHwfp3QugWk9hwTpkaInXV3F99aBSjJ51Ve18qR9gxjFd6gqXBt+2cXwnn/hiAv8eNdpaqwwk19K1JsI2K/21ai9Fk= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: Kdx8PkAVM1n9qG1KyXrEPi5iIS2Y9UmIQTVMs5pVdbmeZ3Zaj5oXN_ovXYNEmwwwrS7gTN9Fmzi73XcfzG90DUuYihnwMLEqdidKsIXGojGBkaoiLDPTgDCr9SMpWNIQSy1vY0BObPgRQee1U17swPV0zw2kxRrWNyu5g82XSwwjPEra1KFkujc0VK3pwJQzJlSk3x6obLWdir1vPBT0_fve9bLKCCgy0n7pIlHUBkUUcSBqzMw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <739263.96181.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <739263.96181.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-525119459 Message-Id: <02ECAE86-05B7-4AAB-953D-2801330DF362@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Happy New Year! Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:56:00 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:56:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-525119459 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Happy new year guys Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 31 Dec 2009, at 22:34, david kirkdorffer wrote: > Happy New Year - > > Jan 1 has looped around again! What will we add to this pass? :-) > > David > UNDO > http://www.myspace.com/undomusic > > > > --Apple-Mail-1-525119459 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Happy new year guys

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On 31 Dec 2009, = at 22:34, david kirkdorffer wrote:

Happy = New Year -

Jan 1 has looped around again!   What will = we add to this pass? = :-)

David
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= --Apple-Mail-1-525119459-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Dec 31 23:51:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C7293BE7F; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008601ca8a74$3c8a0c80$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <739263.96181.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <02ECAE86-05B7-4AAB-953D-2801330DF362@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Happy New Year! Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:51:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0083_01CA8A74.3C63E6E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:51:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01CA8A74.3C63E6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been trying to think of something profound to say, but I can't, so = I'll just wish you all a very Happy New Year. Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Stevens=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Happy New Year! Happy new year guys Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 31 Dec 2009, at 22:34, david kirkdorffer wrote: Happy New Year - Jan 1 has looped around again! What will we add to this pass? :-) David UNDO http://www.myspace.com/undomusic ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01CA8A74.3C63E6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've been trying to think of something profound to say, but I = can't, so=20 I'll just wish you all a very Happy New Year.

Steve

www.stevemoyes.org.uk

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt Stevens =

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Sent: Thursday, December 31, = 2009 10:56=20 PM

Subject: Re: Happy New = Year!

Happy new year guys

Matt Stevens

www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinte= rnet.com

On 31 Dec 2009, at 22:34, david kirkdorffer wrote:

Happy New Year -

Jan 1 has looped around = again!   What=20 will we add to this pass? = :-)

David

UNDO

http://www.myspace.com/undomusi= c

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