From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 04:55:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AE753BE93; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 793 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:55:02 UTC Message-Id: <054FB00B-FDE1-449A-9CD5-C1D7112B2589@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: automation or triggering functions Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:41:46 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 9f66dd06-7e55-11de-a75d-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVcfTsLCBpo UEhAUlJXHgFpCxgG SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0K0F8 RhgPZ24GZG5laGlR UUJbdE1dJgVMKktF bE14AXYIfGQGMi99 FlBuM3VpZWwPd31Y E1pVIw4Ee0tZVjch WxcHFCkuGktNQD97 MwYnJVERBkcXPQ08 LF0qRVMfNQR6 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1849/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:55:02 +0000 (UTC) yup, i go both ways.... i like using automation to do a bunch of things all at once and then do the rest with my feet. i think my songs are about 50/50 On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i'd like to know some pros/cons, likes/dislikes about this two > different approaches to looping: > > 1) automatic control of your looper of choice by a hw/sw sequencer. > > vs. > > 2) "traditional" trigger/modulation of functions/parameters by means > of a physical controller. > > anybody using a mix of both? > > i'd be curios to know. > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 05:53:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AE0C3BE93; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 236107436/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.204.197/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.204.197 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AskBAOB0c0pPTszF/2dsb2JhbAAI0iyEGAWKDA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,306,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="236107436" Message-ID: <4A73DBEA.2050008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 07:08:42 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: automation or triggering functions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:53:15 +0000 (UTC) All "traditional" here. Playing the technology as an instrument. I think this all live approach has a better feel, more expressive. So I don't mind the effort to learn to do it. The downside is having to know what to do when it all goes wrong ;-) I might use some mini-sequences in the future, kind of "special effects", I'd be running them on the Gordius Midi controller and they'd be midi synced to the edp. andy butler Raul Bonell wrote: > i'd like to know some pros/cons, likes/dislikes about this two > different approaches to looping: > > 1) automatic control of your looper of choice by a hw/sw sequencer. > > vs. > > 2) "traditional" trigger/modulation of functions/parameters by means > of a physical controller. > > anybody using a mix of both? > > i'd be curios to know. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 08:40:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 734B83BE95; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9LRUysIlQAT1/K6UA1BaHXknFDTdeu8T16xGQN/+ZKE=; b=OdBFFiEi/abKmuxaqeGtmxJTq/pqK+QAvipDoMQ2UYhYE46mkZdNkwyTcXXHoiQAmo pZ8iFR6B3+gmxXAKlj8nkbZHC5PZThhXQjpwm8CKxh07zHq9QELdc+SZgCspmMhg5/C/ 2q412EuWMoL/6il9q9tT0JESMF+cEhLt4YgU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HURadtwzuTcu5VINJCpMJaBN+qshti0MHTZKe/sWivXy84TD3JOz7D/wV2548KzRAH TvNqZCkx9lO10YMJFSYqEFVWB/DoQNWJa4o5gdTPXD4E2/7HOzZr5eadRVDJK3AzkDFH 7S2fiKJFZgiRETzQ9DqFcl7IEpEQUwpnrNezg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:40:10 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908010140h91b5873t1369f390178fe9af@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: automation or triggering functions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9NsGiB.A.fCC.r9_cKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:40:11 +0000 (UTC) I find it difficult to answer because I don't know where the border is between "automatic" and "manual"? For example if you use the overdub function in toggle mode you will be in "automatic" once you pressed the overdub button all the way until you press it a second time. I use some actions that are as long as one cycle (up to two bars) but since I know exactly what is going to happen when unleashing such a script it is still "manual" to me. One thing I don't use much in technology though, is random. But I try to learn how to play randomly in order to use now and then. An interesting thread you launched here, Raul! For each person the choice of approach relies quite a bit on what music is being performed. I mostly improvise everything and this makes my approach biased. I look for a balance between automatic and manual that lets you improvise stuff that, on a good night, might sound composed to a non musician listener. If there is a choice I tend to go for the manual tweaks because it puts on more of a show - and makes performing more fun. When using hand buttons for tech control that indeed influences the music, because in order to free one hand to push a button you have to either make room for a short silence in the music or a not that can be played with just one hand and all that is totally different depending on what instrument you happen to be playing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i'd like to know some pros/cons, likes/dislikes about this two > different approaches to looping: > > 1) automatic control of your looper of choice by a hw/sw sequencer. > > vs. > > 2) "traditional" trigger/modulation of functions/parameters by means > of a physical controller. > > anybody using a mix of both? > > i'd be curios to know. > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 09:58:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E80273BEA0; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249120685; bh=TYm5tutJqONejsMuSavh7pTZwheSY4p7UxqnrtumopI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iKo1Eb5QhRFW4alspjM7OdVwQWyX+wnn5VRYXsPmUkpKCEmgC12ohP+VEVyi/fv7W0Kgh2vGSwq4yWlEBPANH9PfJexAF1XXXYZFsLv0EXiy/iE2IbsaT0Q7NTOz6fG+CHy7LzkjIq5w2F4UOQgyWRnBL/6faR3zXg8ZCYb5XX8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HGoI1j5yGDqguzp6MXLU9NsQNmNzdWO1xaO0HpTZVQRJJzFmjXENbS7Y6dPmN9niTRbILBg3ZrhDHrZZKnu1H1v1mnplGtjWpAvlEFZjj6pE4nxjyKctZpy9fzwC8DR4v7OHHnObJuBv296SJyK73iqg0J4+Wc7Vg6Uo9erVksg=; Message-ID: <548603.57576.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:58:05 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: automation or triggering functions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A73DBEA.2050008@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:58:06 +0000 (UTC) I use all traditional which makes it feel like an open cavas and might brin= g surprises everytime,though the main drawback i see with this is the procc= ess of arriving to the something and the time it takes plus the tap dancing= while playing simultaneously the idea you are spontaneously getting across= ,might not be so exciting for the listener,while the other approach might f= ree you more and make improvisations more relax and focused...=0A=0Awww.mys= pace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- andy butler sch= rieb am Fr, 31.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: andy butler =0A>= Betreff: Re: automation or triggering functions=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Freitag, 31. Juli 2009, 23:08=0A> All "traditi= onal" here.=0A> =0A> Playing the technology as an instrument.=0A> =0A> I th= ink this all live approach has a better feel, more=0A> expressive.=0A> So I= don't mind the effort to learn to do it.=0A> The downside is having to kno= w what to do when it all goes=0A> wrong ;-)=0A> =0A> I might use some mini-= sequences in the future, kind of=0A> "special effects",=0A> I'd be running = them on the Gordius Midi controller and=0A> they'd=0A> be midi synced to th= e edp.=0A> =0A> andy butler=0A> =0A> Raul Bonell wrote:=0A> > i'd like to k= now some pros/cons, likes/dislikes about=0A> this two=0A> > different appro= aches to looping:=0A> > =0A> > 1) automatic control of your looper of choic= e by a=0A> hw/sw sequencer.=0A> > =0A> > vs.=0A> > =0A> > 2) "traditional" = trigger/modulation of=0A> functions/parameters by means=0A> > of a physical= controller.=0A> > =0A> > anybody using a mix of both?=0A> > =0A> > i'd be = curios to know.=0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From bankofamerica@securesuite.net Sat Aug 1 10:01:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1343 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:01:40 UTC Received: from toq12-srv.bellnexxia.net (toq12.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.119]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F313BE93; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([76.65.227.33]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with SMTP id <20090801093251.XJKR13336.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@User>; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:32:51 -0400 From: "message-ID" Subject: notification from: Bank Of America Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:41:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090801093251.XJKR13336.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@User> To: undisclosed-recipients:; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 11:10:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A8C43BEBE; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mrLghm0ISjwsLlToBCYdAZHspXhkrY3oYNwU4v0STNU=; b=tf1ulR1wLD9sUdt7iFSlkdrTlYcD5qUTPUJt9rZcWAIwShkznYyGsl+hlL1tl8z+bl 74+m+MDTCx+isOtdh4mXrx+uYRmBsaMAjG0cee0ZdRCDNauUmrkiJg38xM+LLcKodC/N pgXfYTz1S+SSfTvhGP1Zt0A9Zh1YBl6s2q4Ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KHVxcDjHGyzgFsfwi9KvMOwQIgoWx5slQ0b/l3Wmt7blp2eJOeQb2s8EXVoITCiTuT AX4RmtMrsU2MWLcUhBHTO+AgUAXLIqatSg0wMOkH5O844lKp064nkyttbq02ha+MCZ5S brgR698ii5so1aN+E99VMYYFvG/2BnTMbD/1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:10:25 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908010410v6fd14f25x9890829e0deee4b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: automation or triggering functions From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Raul, for that interesting thread. Now before I go into my view, I'd like to quote Per: "I find it difficult to answer because I don't know where the border is" Now Per, there are a few scripts I got from you which definitely fall into the "automation" category - how about "chromatic waves"? On the other hand, Raul defined "automatic" as "by a hw/sw sequencer". Does Mobius' scripting function qualify as a sequencer? I believe so. So my location for the line to be drawn (which is actually very implementation-dependant and technical, not function-related) is "automation is everything where you use some kind of sequencer/scripting etc. to either execute a function call within the time frame of a pre-programmed, longer sequence which forms the piece, or to execute several function calls triggered by one user command". And with that definition, even "copy to next track and set that to half speed immediately" assigned to a footswitch would qualify as automation. While I personally work with the "open canvas" approach of Luis Angulo (which, according to him, might bring surprises everytime), I've recently tried working with what I call "interactive sequences" (which are patterns programmed in a sequencer, e.g. Ableton Live, but where I retain a certain level of control e.g. by being able to repeat, skip or extend one specific section). Actually, this does not only include the looping, but also other functions of my computer (e.g. effects processing). And this approach can also bring big surprises, simply because while you define the way the processing is executed, you can still leave the input material completely open. Defined that perfect sequencer automation for a specific melody you've composed? Then let the sequencer run and try to make odd noises instead of playing the melody and see what happens. Or play the melody, but have the sequencer run in the wrong tempo. Just a few thoughts, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 11:16:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 906A13BEB2; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JfkorsGZYS+r65o77bJkScuBAg8ZnuqHJQ2OFYU0G6o=; b=aG4s2DZO/BDnY+xQKiNaVO3RaRHR0+D4cueuiPSGWBFkec2rH0Sc1uj9mvcLZb0+12 H8RUuxRO5fXUjCkzQwFVB38pCWm6QemFE7/6ppAB1aRo9ELdgoejd5wNFhwpdBvozLwM x1xKjPKHfvsLZ7Z4XGQfR4WfsPpajofUtu6iE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tDz+ou+XScoU7wqCLRpVOeVm20TUr5QcDDWXINLFJdjFoTANnwJkl6YvFw0cbC4FQs otnX1KeEtmr+HO5gzhoxPv17xMCg1OTh833GJK/gvyGMQ/QNbv2yBd7OYi6eJoProGV/ AyPjElKRmtZba48+yY0PSQWySM/Zlumks2iFs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:16:12 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908010416u10f45d32h3d64dc89d0923e66@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: automation or triggering functions From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3ua3EC.A.SEF.9PCdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:16:13 +0000 (UTC) [another comment on that thread] Andy said (about the traditional approach): "The downside is having to know what to do when it all goes wrong ;-)" I personally find it easier to deal with the "all goes wrong" situation in a traditional/non-programmed than in a sequenced context. Why? "All goes wrong" by definition results in a system state (the system here being the work of art) that you didn't have in mind when composing the piece and programming the sequencer. The usual solution is to do some things to bring it back to normal again - which can be relatively easy when playing traditional-style (aka "just hit undo"), but might in the result throw your sequencer off. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 12:41:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABC753BEB6; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=z1X1x2P97wiROeQyxi9ye8lBA3t3K5LTSZQDUYbaMsI=; b=x3iZZeJr4pAaxJuSScjGBaBX52SMMLJtIFa3n0fzBwtdjj1aSJKqshgv0BAHwzswVO NYCY9OIsHGtYuMOOKkU/6ynh3emFRx8l5rxmZ+OEpTIn5NreWnKnbUKezOn87ONngM3e KDnWZSs7tfZ1uCZ8/wdUOVD4e1zsBMgfdn/g4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=nJUGLXva/p6rK86JMS6A+hWPWBOltfoHtiSrFLlb6GH/jqI4Yc+XX58ic4k8tXQcE2 K6xFtJXIPm8+qiRylkKhrZLhrud23NHG5RE/vPu1jhRwM+9Tofjh9PIr1jp1R8Ef+WNd RMU/rXQQuBl/UhC7f3C5k5fqzKCawo6BgyDH0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <548603.57576.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <4A73DBEA.2050008@tiscali.co.uk> <548603.57576.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:41:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8fbd1ca1c26c4c2d Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908010541u58875787u855524693969a503@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: automation or triggering functions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3e882433bb047013db54 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:41:33 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3e882433bb047013db54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I too am all traditional most of the time , but with one or 2 screw it up. tricks... basically a drum machine (not synched to anything) with some midi note patterns that trigger commands... like popping up and down octaves, or millions of un-dos on 64th beats... great for that micro windowing technique... (do lots of long loops loads of overdubs for hours, then unrounded mult to a few milliseconds.. hit drum machine and it works back in time thru stuf (theis is EDP of course...)... or I have a weird kind of ultra overdub, reverses it picth it and delete it patch... that is well quirky... these get spirted into the mix, when things need spice... m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c3e882433bb047013db54 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I too am all traditional most of the time , but with one or 2 screw it up. = tricks...
basically a drum machine (not synched to anything) with some = midi note patterns that trigger commands... like popping up and down octave= s, or millions of un-dos on 64th beats... great for that micro windowing te= chnique... (do lots of long loops loads of overdubs for hours, then unround= ed mult to a few milliseconds.. hit drum machine and it works back in time = thru stuf (theis is EDP of course...)... or I have a weird kind of ultra ov= erdub, reverses it picth it and delete it patch... that is well quirky... t= hese get spirted into the mix, when things need spice...


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--0015174c3e882433bb047013db54-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 13:06:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E5C3BEC2; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=pC6DWcczs2F2jNubmejxL2TbLY3uYTO8kj2E0TqvHyk=; b=Ayh5qiX8dV0M7lPJt7wd6TP3wD1lFAEfZw7yfTcz+yauYOXshu0o/dOXahxAL2yG3Q WMIezAHCXzUSlyuh7cRQlizjaFsNShVRMn58Cl1pv5Eo9jPO95tw80JbkpzCvEPfi2Zt dGrMWwGnuR0THLU5Z7qNLkj4Hk1xMFAyyB+D0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=mUMG6bqO5Gf3chGuN885Ian266sXWqt5jTKSOL5M0BuvtgebXTjDz7hlho7a1DGIrI JTSRb9qYrSMhr9QmYBEu9yjWBlgnhEc0GvqhjXv2gUZCb72mAO8pmWbjBIcC8+ZdSVsc aXaL73wtJe6TvNgGbJ9JOqRfiDm0wz359CZCM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281610s5696b5b0k7e7c0dcbcc232eb0@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:06:09 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c2aa1aedeaa930c3 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908010606l1f5031f3r8cacc2497d7d107c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c17b47d37290470143492 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:06:30 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c17b47d37290470143492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than > digital... > > > but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... > > > no I was just thinking about the way people hear... > > > > These statements are false. Seriously though, one of the ways to push my buttons is to make blanket "this is better" statements rather than "I like this better for these reasons." Seriously, though What are you like Sottilaro?? I cant just say "Im sorry but film is better now???" Im just NOT HERE (Loopers Delight) to argue and stand up for EVERY SINGLE off topic aside I toss into my posts, where Im just being witty anyhow. I wasnt making a GREAT BIG IMPORTANT statement... AND it was an opinion... You know it was an opinion becase I started the sentance with Im sorry but... then followed with a statement that is COMPLETELY OBVIOUS that it cannot possibly be proven, and is SOOOOO subjective that NO-ONE could have believed that I was stating a scientific fact. Im a film-maker dude... we like film... its easy to shoot on... Sure video can look nice.. I happen to LOVE the look of VHS 3 tube cameras from the 80s... and video can look like film... but there you go,,, when video looks good, it cos its been made to look like film... therfore FILM IS BETTER!!! As for the plastic emulsion being bad for the environment, weak... boy... weak... Thats why I yawned... could be bothered to follow up your (initially unsubstantiated blanket statement) These statement are wrong... Please cheer up a bit Mark... i dont know if you noticed but you're being a bit agressive these days... --0015174c17b47d37290470143492 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > > Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS bett= er than
> digital...
> > > but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenie= nt...
> > > no I was just thinking about the way people hear...
> >
> > These statements are false.

Seriously though, one of the = ways to push my buttons is to make
blanket "this is better" statements rather than "I like this= better
for these reasons."=A0

Seriously, though What are you like Sot= tilaro?? I cant just say "Im sorry but film is better now???" Im = just NOT HERE (Loopers Delight) to argue and stand up for EVERY SINGLE off = topic aside I toss into my posts, where Im just being witty anyhow. I wasnt= making a GREAT BIG IMPORTANT statement... AND it was an opinion... You kno= w it was an opinion becase I started the sentance with Im sorry but... then= followed with a statement that is COMPLETELY OBVIOUS that it cannot possib= ly be proven, and is SOOOOO subjective that NO-ONE could have believed that= I was stating a scientific fact.

Im a film-maker dude... we like film... its easy to shoot on... Sure vi= deo can look nice.. I happen to LOVE the look of VHS 3 tube cameras from th= e 80s... and video can look like film... but there you go,,, when video loo= ks good, it cos its been made to look like film... therfore FILM IS BETTER!= !!

As for the plastic emulsion being bad for the environment, weak... boy.= .. weak...

Thats why I yawned... could be bothered to follow up you= r (initially unsubstantiated blanket statement) These statement are wrong..= .


Please cheer up a bit Mark... i dont know if you noticed but you= 9;re being a bit agressive these days...
--0015174c17b47d37290470143492-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 17:54:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C8C3BEC4; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908010140h91b5873t1369f390178fe9af@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: SEMI-OT INTERVIEW WITH NELS CLINE AND G.E. STINSON Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:54:07 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0908010140h91b5873t1369f390178fe9af@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, Here's an on-line interview with pals Nels cline and G.E. Stinson. It briefly mentions looping at one point so maybe it's not so OT as all that. But it's still interesting. Posted just yesterday it covers a lot of territory though. They're working on a duet project together: "Elevating Device." Worth a listen, definitely. Enjoy! TK From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 18:52:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FAC83BEC3; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/HgwniPiOO1DwVqfrVKrDfY6UFqg+0zvesR47rWE91s=; b=jdepiViFzC/hKnrhF8XCgPskvrT7ybnwmc9BG6Hqy8GJtfr6/XuTHh2++2+B2QTqrP MEqcttVg8Ln7MwXtN5X73lhAlyCeJaMUe3QRg/TBCaIAuQ+7NumOfTfeG2nFnWtGlOvu Uu6wZO7otG9xcU9dfUg1UNnB/aqSXx2pt5hDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sbWU8o4SlmqGcmxtWWCQMaPu7sPjGd+Wo9znS+BXR8PHLCpjm84U9zug6NR/GQzrWE p7uWxr+Nuo7vlw5UZcRZMEEr5WECqNNtEIbLnXXl8pHutQ3Q4RqRd7Oeb8O9vRjbQND1 hbJEtEKniEkzBvucc+M3tl1Td0murWxQQn6aE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0908010140h91b5873t1369f390178fe9af@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:52:50 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908011152h2a1a153eo7dfbef5e9838aee3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: SEMI-OT INTERVIEW WITH NELS CLINE AND G.E. STINSON From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5be52293bea0470190b8a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:52:52 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5be52293bea0470190b8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted this is neat thanks for passing on, I've been following GE ever since Shadowfax in the late 70's. He's turned up with some neat things since, be= t this will produce some amazing work with Nels... On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > Hi all, > > Here's an on-line interview with pals Nels cline and G.E. Stinson. > > < > http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=3D127648549781&h=3D6Uuo-&u=3Dyv= A2r&ref=3Dnf > > > > It briefly mentions looping at one point so maybe it's not so OT as all > that. > > But it's still interesting. > > Posted just yesterday it covers a lot of territory though. > > They're working on a duet project together: "Elevating Device." > > < > http://soundsareactive.com/nels-cline-ge-stinson-elevating-device-saa1150= / > > > > Worth a listen, definitely. > > Enjoy! > > TK > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5be52293bea0470190b8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted this is neat thanks for passing on, I've been following GE ever sin= ce Shadowfax in the late 70's. =A0He's turned up with some neat thi= ngs since, bet this will produce some amazing work with Nels...

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> = wrote:
Hi all,

Here's an on-line interview with pals Nels cline and G.E. Stinson.

<http://www.faceboo= k.com/ext/share.php?sid=3D127648549781&h=3D6Uuo-&u=3DyvA2r&ref= =3Dnf>

It briefly mentions looping at one point so maybe it's not so OT as all= that.

But it's still interesting.

Posted just yesterday it covers a lot of territory though.

They're working on a duet project together: "Elevating Device.&quo= t;

<http://soundsareactive.com/nels-cline-ge-= stinson-elevating-device-saa1150/>

Worth a listen, definitely.

Enjoy!

TK




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Note: Make sure you reply and forward the needed information to this email address:admin_office@mail2broker.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 19:13:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE3EB3BEC4; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908011152h2a1a153eo7dfbef5e9838aee3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: SEMI-OT INTERVIEW WITH NELS CLINE AND G.E. STINSON Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:13:29 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0908010140h91b5873t1369f390178fe9af@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60908011152h2a1a153eo7dfbef5e9838aee3@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <8dyMF.A.RDF.ePJdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Jim, Funny thing . . . I used to enjoy Shadowfax way back in the day . . . and was somewhat aware of their guitar player . . . some guy named Stinson (as I'd read in the squint print of the liner notes). A decade or more later, when (through my friendship with Jeff Kaiser) I became acquainted with Nels, Vinny Golia, Stu Liebig, Woody Aplanalp, and a whole bunch of folks associated with a downtown L.A. "scene" surrounding the Alligator Lounge (including a G.E. Stinson), I hadn't made the connection that the two musicians were indeed the same guy. Duh. Actually, I found that out relatively recently. I guess I'm just sort of slow. The musics of the G.E. of now and of Shadowfax of the early '80s are verrrrrry different animals. Ted On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Ted this is neat thanks for passing on, I've been following GE ever > since Shadowfax in the late 70's. He's turned up with some neat > things since, bet this will produce some amazing work with Nels... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 19:18:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9E323BEC7; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Guz9jkp9myPnsRotWyYeqYl9iexrhv6fsBV1IB3ENTw=; b=CLk1lTJuMt4wz7KKfFTiP7V/Nx1qqY/xYZYYRrYP9ChT5YEQ26j92UN8xmIJrGdwMB 0vCWTvmKt+50E/ZA9xTWU7bSW5sAqil3kuyWxvhKPBUmyx1QiWOqgHJ02tToB+hnUUoT iVzvQGKtUEUIlxJ/47/9uNyGFaJxIUMITn5x0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JezytjJTR8/CfY5vCYy8pVuZn0Lo5ZcaBeVRwNjqHvq43AxeVG2G+m0gCBE+/Yvo2+ zIN2kuDnIF/xgQBvJFfPxnaRDqnaxXMA26KGGLaxVS2VXr/RsoUr/q5BQjuxkfkmqTc9 0l2q58NBmu0m3az+Vy3MJOLE01AcDihpnjnKE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0908010140h91b5873t1369f390178fe9af@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60908011152h2a1a153eo7dfbef5e9838aee3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:18:06 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908011218x76a2766bsbab93a46b94fec29@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: SEMI-OT INTERVIEW WITH NELS CLINE AND G.E. STINSON From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5adf47e7ccc047019650b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:18:07 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5adf47e7ccc047019650b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted that's neat they are different worlds his Shadow time and now but that'= s really what's rich. Before Windham Hill noticed them @80 they had done I think two other records that I recall on 'vinyl (whas that!)'. I saw them live @84 along with Michael [Hedges] in Memphis. Anyhow this current stuff sounds like it's going to be really neat, this is a really funny interview at times very cas and lengthy. That's pretty neat thread of folks you came to know in LA... J On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:13 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > Jim, > > Funny thing . . . I used to enjoy Shadowfax way back in the day . . . and > was somewhat aware of their guitar player . . . some guy named Stinson (a= s > I'd read in the squint print of the liner notes). > > A decade or more later, when (through my friendship with Jeff Kaiser) I > became acquainted with Nels, Vinny Golia, Stu Liebig, Woody Aplanalp, and= a > whole bunch of folks associated with a downtown L.A. "scene" surrounding = the > Alligator Lounge (including a G.E. Stinson), I hadn't made the connection > that the two musicians were indeed the same guy. > > Duh. > > Actually, I found that out relatively recently. > > I guess I'm just sort of slow. > > The musics of the G.E. of now and of Shadowfax of the early '80s are > verrrrrry different animals. > > Ted > > > > On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Ted this is neat thanks for passing on, I've been following GE ever sinc= e >> Shadowfax in the late 70's. He's turned up with some neat things since,= bet >> this will produce some amazing work with Nels... >> > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5adf47e7ccc047019650b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted that's neat they are different worlds his Shadow time and now but t= hat's really what's rich. =A0Before Windham Hill noticed them @80 t= hey had done I think two other records that I recall on 'vinyl =A0(whas= that!)'. =A0I saw them live @84 along with Michael [Hedges] in Memphis= .

Anyhow this current stuff sounds like it's going to be r= eally neat, this is a really funny interview at times very cas and lengthy.=

That's pretty neat thread of folks you came t= o know in LA...

J

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009= at 3:13 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Jim,

Funny thing . . . I used to enjoy Shadowfax way back in the day . . . and w= as somewhat aware of their guitar player . . . some guy named Stinson (as I= 'd read in the squint print of the liner notes).

A decade or more later, when (through my friendship with Jeff Kaiser) I bec= ame acquainted with Nels, Vinny Golia, Stu Liebig, Woody Aplanalp, and a wh= ole bunch of folks associated with a downtown L.A. "scene" surrou= nding the Alligator Lounge (including a G.E. Stinson), I hadn't made th= e connection that the two musicians were indeed the same guy.

Duh.

Actually, I found that out relatively recently.

I guess I'm just sort of slow.

The musics of the G.E. of now and of Shadowfax of the early '80s are ve= rrrrrry different animals.

Ted



On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:

Ted this is neat thanks for passing on, I've been following GE ever sin= ce Shadowfax in the late 70's. =A0He's turned up with some neat thi= ngs since, bet this will produce some amazing work with Nels...




--
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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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--001636c5adf47e7ccc047019650b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 19:20:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9191E3BED2; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V6PP06PeXb4orLNe4HE8xw/6ysUQxdrIWdyIWFOb8x8=; b=TC6fOn8NCRAHDySDI7zxgHOFEo2Hu6PS8OXT2RS89qJLIx6hNoTZwhVBFuYYZLP+F8 3f+5HoZU5xGdqxOQfGIFiEpMs4f2Q5t5VuR4DwKS3kKJMKz+xGAT+EhNMGH9jd7escDg IWGt86siYgmzR2qq6EXfM91UTv5rgCjdhNoqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kQprnuqQv5j8ykZ/rQKpI27wD8QJN5O2lPaxK6zbfSm63ReMMPNGPi4058fu+44o4H spxyw6zFSMQJ49nw33tiEUcJluSkV+wwlDEFt1v/vnkliAfd9/HJb0uVtQvKrBCfH1/D atsrPYxneL6k4x3zay3wbyR7+WEHB8xZOSqSc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0908010606l1f5031f3r8cacc2497d7d107c@mail.gmail.com> References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281610s5696b5b0k7e7c0dcbcc232eb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908010606l1f5031f3r8cacc2497d7d107c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:20:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Oh I've always been plenty cranky. I'm gearing up to be a ranty old man! I'm still standing by my statement though. Of course you have the right to your opinion but there are dangers in your language. As a professional your opinion means more than the average layman's. I know my way around a Bolex and let me tell you, in my opinion it's not easier to shoot on film so I have no idea what the hell you're talking about when you say "it's easier..." While you can get a great look from film, as far as I could tell it's mostly a nightmare to work with compared to modern digital mediums. Same thing with tape. Does it have some inherent qualities that are desirable? Sure. Is it your right to prefer to use it? Absolutely. Saying "It is better" when you're coming from a place of authority is a bit irresponsible though. Also, it's not useful. Saying "I like it better because..." is useful. I do find it funny that there are a lot of VSTs out there now that create the analog crap I spent years as an audio engineer trying to minimize. After Effect plugs that emulate the look of different film stocks complete with scratches and fuzz on the shutter. Awesome. I find it more useful asking the question "does this give me a look/sound that works with my art?" than "Is this medium better?" I had to laugh at the Dumble Amps thread a little while ago. I'm not saying they're bad or good or worth it... I've never had any experience with it, but the price tag makes me smile. I think we spend a lot of time chasing the .5% increase in sound quality that somehow costs 100 times the cost of the 99.5% good sounding gear. What's the point? It becomes a fetish object, just like your film camera is on it's way to becoming. You can argue that, but in 1984 when I saw my first digital multitrack I said, "this will be done totally on computers soon" so I called that one. ;) I'm like The Great Carnak! Have a look at Sin City and tell me that's not a beautiful film. It's shot digitally and the medium is still young. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:06 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> > > Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than >> digital... >> > > but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... >> > > no I was just thinking about the way people hear... >> > >> > These statements are false. > > Seriously though, one of the ways to push my buttons is to make > blanket "this is better" statements rather than "I like this better > for these reasons." > > Seriously, though What are you like Sottilaro?? I cant just say "Im sorry > but film is better now???" Im just NOT HERE (Loopers Delight) to argue and > stand up for EVERY SINGLE off topic aside I toss into my posts, where Im > just being witty anyhow. I wasnt making a GREAT BIG IMPORTANT statement... > AND it was an opinion... You know it was an opinion becase I started the > sentance with Im sorry but... then followed with a statement that is > COMPLETELY OBVIOUS that it cannot possibly be proven, and is SOOOOO > subjective that NO-ONE could have believed that I was stating a scientific > fact. > > Im a film-maker dude... we like film... its easy to shoot on... Sure video > can look nice.. I happen to LOVE the look of VHS 3 tube cameras from the > 80s... and video can look like film... but there you go,,, when video looks > good, it cos its been made to look like film... therfore FILM IS BETTER!!! > > As for the plastic emulsion being bad for the environment, weak... boy... > weak... > > Thats why I yawned... could be bothered to follow up your (initially > unsubstantiated blanket statement) These statement are wrong... > > > Please cheer up a bit Mark... i dont know if you noticed but you're being a > bit agressive these days... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 19:21:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EEB23BED2; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 235738275/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.165.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.165.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqABAD4ydEpPTqWK/2dsb2JhbAAI0TeEGAWKEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,307,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="235738275" Message-ID: <4A74994D.9030203@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:36:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Review: Jomox T-Resonator "Time Woven Filter Matrix" References: <7334ca1b0907281424u74e25c2dx8e5d68d143d8861a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907281424u74e25c2dx8e5d68d143d8861a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Some time ago, when I asked here about odd kind of stompboxes, Andy > Butler pointed me toward the Jomox T-Resonator. Now that I finally had > time to test drive it some, here's a first review. thanks Rainer, great info > WHAT IS IT: > > A black table-top-style box with wallwart power supply, a lot of > dials, a few LEDs and one pushbutton. As for the signal path, the > stereo device offers two identical paths consisting of a simple > digital effect, followed by a 24dB lowpass filter. ...but isn't a Moog type analog filter? If you're familiar with the Moog, how do they compare. > Now that alone wouldn't get anyone interested, so Jomox added feedback > and modulation capabilities. As for feedback, there is a total of > three feedback chains, each available with positive and negative > phase. The thing with the feedback is that on the demos the guys just let it run amok all the time. A moog filter can oscillate with a lovely delicate silvery tone, as long as resonance is tweaked carefully. Can the T-Res manage that? Another thing from the demos, was that guitar sounds gave me more the impression of guitar *plus* weirdness, rather than the guitar *becoming* weirdness such as I like to get from my Vortex. If that makes sense, would you be able to comment? thanks again andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 1 21:34:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00E603BED6; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RFwjgEjgyS2WEShLcEW9qgTkeDyX+SUUFAvQjihYs70=; b=teNSPy57fONIPx4w30FCVIVFwN+WbvmzCtOy20ZiVtyuD/d6nEp/UOxHP8H5T80OIR txw6ZeZ/PP9VYawY3DokDQBXFh2teCkhBZkXbWsbYJe06fshsg2QxJJk28g13lRRJCi+ a8Eamf9GcN5EBNFe3LFE2nyHdEppUviWSt54Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=G/GTiaCrNVKH+qMijvhmVUuNE8maz62zh/YSXNKWsVWtXEQBgPVVyhQgOJrqIIA6ke 76KrOQqMttHU7/1b/z4vQlggSHfeRn1+8FbDb3xfN6zlMKaqjH8JIcBKDctr6htNY1Rc +ADM4qf6/ctKY8y8cyaPD3IrU0a3fmtamysfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 23:34:14 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908011434w65421b3buad006d2ca8fdf2d9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Review: Jomox T-Resonator "Time Woven Filter Matrix" From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Andy Butler asked: "...but isn't a Moog type analog filter? If you're familiar with the Moog, how do they compare." The Moog filter is a circuit realized with (I believe Ge) diodes, while the T-Resonator uses a transistor-based design. So no, it isn't a moog-circuit for the filter. I haven't taken the time to actually measure the complex frequency response, but by inspection: The filter seems much more correct by good circuit design standards - which doesn't mean it sounds better. The most important difference is that it's next to impossible to get the filter to distort in the screaming moog-style way. However, including a distortion stompbox in your setup can help with that. "A moog filter can oscillate with a lovely delicate silvery tone, as long as resonance is tweaked carefully. Can the T-Res manage that? " As above: no, because it won't distort the same way as a moog filter. The filter oscillation (in negative feedback) is more theremin-like (to stay with the metaphors). Positive feedback gives you really aggressive low-frequency rumble. "Another thing from the demos, was that guitar sounds gave me more the impression of guitar *plus* weirdness, rather than the guitar *becoming* weirdness such as I like to get from my Vortex. If that makes sense, would you be able to comment?" It's funny that you mention that comparison, because when I first tried the T-Resonator I thought of something like "Vortex for elektro/noise people". I cannot second that opinion regarding my playing with the device. There is only a few settings that work for me when using the T-Resonator on a guitar, but with these, it's more of a guitar becoming weirdness as you phrased it. Now that I had a few more days to play with it, here's some additional comment to my first post: The trick really is to not use it as a stereo device, but to patch the output of channel 1 into the input of channel 2 and, if you like so, to put a (analogue - 'cause of headroom you might require) distortion box in between. This does not only work great for working on rave-like synth lines (as I mentioned in my last post), but also for no-input noise settings. By careful combination of envelope, lfo, feedback and delay effect settings, you can create really odd chaotic settings - like just the T-Resonator delievering short low-frequency pulses at a constant 130bpm rate, and after a ever-changing, non-systematic number of pulses generating a filter-sweeping scream (which, although it sounds different, even you as a Moog filter lover would enjoy). Again, perhaps I'll do some video - perhaps tomorrow will be a good day. Yours, Rainer From fringsloanhom6@mchsi.com Sun Aug 2 00:59:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 302 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:59:25 UTC Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214BD3BEC9 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:59:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=mchsi.com; s=dkim01; i=fringsloanhom6@mchsi.com; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249174765; h=Message-Id:Date:From; bh=FhJeFvNU2I/JzTTYo1fRcB4d4 yLQRam+CkH7TefRGls=; b=vtNiCPERvdVoECd81vz0QrdRRIvS22XnamZA1uo+AwhX VMWPUypspeScxL3+8Htaxg5BRCPYHu3xPQuDSxspnw== Received: from sccqwbc17 (scommcenter17.asp.att.net[204.127.203.179]) by mchsi.com (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20090802005347m9200r6pf5e>; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:54:11 +0000 Received: from [94.126.16.7] by sccqwbc17; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:53:46 +0000 From: "shariffringsloanhome@gmail.com" Reply-to: shariffringsloanhome@gmail.com Organization: shariffringsloanhome@gmail.com Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:53:46 +0000 Message-Id: <080220090053.5450.4A74E387000890620000154A223245003003010CD2079C080C03BFC0030108020E01049C0902079D00@mchsi.com> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: ZnJpbmdzbG9hbmhvbTZAbWNoc2kuY29t To: undisclosed-recipients:; Good day,loan @3% apply via:shariffringsloanhome@gmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 07:19:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BB643BED8; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 239512802/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.205.171/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.205.171 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmcBAP7adEpPTs2r/2dsb2JhbAAI0UaEGAWKEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,308,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="239512802" Message-ID: <4A754193.8060301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:34:43 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Review: Jomox T-Resonator "Time Woven Filter Matrix" References: <7334ca1b0908011434w65421b3buad006d2ca8fdf2d9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908011434w65421b3buad006d2ca8fdf2d9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Andy Butler asked: > "...but isn't a Moog type analog filter? > If you're familiar with the Moog, how do they compare." > > The Moog filter is a circuit realized with (I believe Ge) diodes, > while the T-Resonator uses a transistor-based design. So no, it isn't > a moog-circuit for the filter. Moog invented/used a ladder arrangement of transistors such as is found here under the heading "resonant filter" http://www.jayemsonic.de/2l4-resonanteneuronen.html as that's the page of one of the Jomox designers I'm guessing that the filter in the *Resonator* might be the same. In essence, the filter boxes are like their neural network synthesizers but with only 2 neurones. Your mention of Germanium might be the key to the difference though. > I haven't taken the time to actually measure the complex frequency > response, but by inspection: > The filter seems much more correct by good circuit design standards - > which doesn't mean it sounds better. The most important difference is > that it's next to impossible to get the filter to distort in the > screaming moog-style way. However, including a distortion stompbox in > your setup can help with that. > > "A moog filter can oscillate with a lovely delicate silvery tone, as > long as resonance is tweaked carefully. > Can the T-Res manage that? " > > As above: no, because it won't distort the same way as a moog filter. Perhaps I should rephrase. Can the T-Res sustain a pure sounding sine wave by resonance and not always end up with a loud distorted tone? Actually, the Moog filter I have is incredibly clean and accurate when not overloaded. Very noticeable in that sounds with high resonance are still very clean. :-) or that's how it sounds to me anyway Anyway, to sustain a tone by resonance at low level there must be a subtle non-linearity, so I agree that if the "way it distorts" is different then the oscillation sound has to be different. > The filter oscillation (in negative feedback) is more theremin-like distorted? > Now that I had a few more days to play with it, here's some additional > comment to my first post: > > The trick really is to not use it as a stereo device, but to patch the > output of channel 1 into the input of channel 2 and, if you like so, > to put a (analogue - 'cause of headroom you might require) distortion > box in between. > This does not only work great for working on rave-like synth lines (as > I mentioned in my last post), but also for no-input noise settings. > By careful combination of envelope, lfo, feedback and delay effect > settings, you can create really odd chaotic settings - like just the > T-Resonator delievering short low-frequency pulses at a constant > 130bpm rate, and after a ever-changing, non-systematic number of > pulses generating a filter-sweeping scream (which, although it sounds > different, even you as a Moog filter lover would enjoy). sounds like fun, so you're putting a distortion box into a feedback path. It sounds like you'd enjoy http://www.jomox.com/product_details.php?lang=2&category=2&product_id=9 > > Again, perhaps I'll do some video - perhaps tomorrow will be a good day. Many thanks for the report Rainer. I'm thinking of recommending this to a friend who's into creating music with feedback, ...but always delicate tones, so hence the picky questions. Looking forward to your vid if it happens. andy > > Yours, > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 09:44:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1883C3BEDA; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249206253; bh=x2sLTOHOHx8hB22EQ3Oh9XJv84RlWiN1ZrEQAiUCzGU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AKlqWot7Of3+f2LAgKcIT15Kwn6j7yCD34hWIF/CAUUgWtgY2pSPb1HcRqiFG//9P6RA3wmqfxeJzX+B7vCUl+jZMYnbRE/x113iuumeWqBbH7X6vlAucaiKSIuZgPUPOAcOMIwU57VuZbkUQSH18OK/nCnh3NIU1nqI9lfrG7E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TMTqH2m2YXjpl/xewAD2H++81Bl4D2YPT/2uI8uhmTO8hY4nDnAFG1CzBJzaaBbkZ5/Ud4ZxoMx4C3cAFDU0gGNpO1VoBqeL3L21OKNlDFVj1wGF4yeDhEJZ+AETo6xbAYn5Tj4E+NLa3GISgASStF/7lpgcSJ1I6rCsiAcGqNs=; Message-ID: <663136.73933.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:44:13 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0RtnEB.A.ZRB.u_VdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:44:15 +0000 (UTC) this is hilarious!;-)))=0Ai bet soon this is is going to be on TV like the = famous =0A"Deutschland sucht den superstar" =0A(translation- Germany looks = for the superstar)=0Asomehow Boss loopers have offcially become "the corpor= ate loopers"=0Athe come with those Huey Lewis and the news integrated drum = patterns;-)=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Teddy Kumpel = schrieb am Fr, 31.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Teddy Kumpel =0A> Betreff: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany=0A> An: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Freitag, 31. Juli 2009, 3:48=0A> = ahhhh yes, looping as an olympic=0A> sport !!!!=0A> awesome=0A> =0A> play b= y play by announcers talking quietly like at a=0A> gymnastic event=0A> =0A>= BORIS: "yes, here's ****... of Hannover, he's been looping=0A> for 3 years= now and comes from a beat box, singing and=0A> classical ukelele backgroun= d.=0A> oooooh, he started off strong with a nice reggae beat,=0A> after tap= ping in the tempo himself... a lot of the younger=0A> looper are using tap = tempo I noticed Jim, whereas the older=0A> loopers are used to setting it m= anually in a menu...."=0A> =0A> JIM: "yes, I've noticed that too... somethi= ng about the new=0A> equipment, oh, he's added a fine ukelele skank part wi= th=0A> phase shifter, a little lagging time offset in the hip hop=0A> tradi= tion, the judges are going to like that.... ah yes, you=0A> see Ricoloop gr= inning..."=0A> =0A> BORIS: "yes, Ricoloop, the undisputed champion of loopi= ng=0A> here in Germany, one of our judges today.... oooooooooooh,=0A> he's = added a nasal bass and a counter melody on distorted=0A> ukelele simultaneo= usly, that's gotta count for extra points=0A> with the judges"=0A> JIM: "ye= s, in the rules of olympic looping the more=0A> elements you add in one pas= s the more points you get,=0A> especially if you make it so you can turn th= em off later=0A> individually..."=0A> =0A> (10 minutes later)=0A> =0A> BORI= S: "he seems to be going for the big end build up now=0A> with the later mu= ltiple vocals.... ouch, he hit one bad note=0A> there... or is he intending= to go for aeolian mode over the=0A> dominant chord structure he's set up..= . let's see how he=0A> gets out of it"=0A> JIM: "ya, the judges don't reall= y care about harmony here,=0A> they're more concerned with the smoothness, = execution and=0A> difficulty level... but it look as if he's saved it BORIS= "=0A> BORIS: "oh yes, he, slipped the major third back in... what=0A> fines= se... I think that should count for extra foresight=0A> points... and he's = playing a little riff..AND AND AND....=0A> wow... great ending, with a nice= reverb blast final chord...=0A> a good showing by *** of Hannover... let's= see what the=0A> judges have to say"=0A> =0A> etc.....=0A> =0A> Teddy=0A> = =0A> =0A> On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:26 AM, Michael Peters wrote:=0A> =0A> > htt= p://www.loopercontest.bossmusik.de/=0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 10:11:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62E5F3BEDB; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PLbUA8eZ2mkuzm315BlDh/lb8HMK0KeP0rao4oQNOTc=; b=wiWGMZNfimKyfh7vSl+iUVX90YDFFkGqqq5eT9/H6xlomZzBXbssySeBxocyjiHwWk 8v5VYwFyn8BT1qSNaPHaTbXj8apBS/R/00aCnH6hS03A25Rc7zaSFLiAN/t/m1bj4UGm ONrqFBhLelAfopZ/eTQ+1ufLEqjOJe0tnEfKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t25QygSaul9Kf32dGHefe4Y8KaJp/qeMzckjEoUvm2TbiJwPczPQGtQ0yI4PsQZXoE oFPDpRIkOLaevB/GS36WxQgRXrZYZ/CrFOMHgZVIaEKGuZjqeHVrsFjTkur7iidrEKXt 9e9GJePMVjuok77liI+cncAb1vB4lgka+Pv5o= Message-ID: <4A756643.7000002@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:11:15 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Toby G schrieb: > I'd say for the most part people aren't that driven to compete for high > status. Most folks go to work, come home and want to enjoy their free > time and do like respect but it's not a duel to the death over it. Its an incredible waste of human resources, that most people divide their life into "free time" and "go to work". We are only free if all of our time is free time, including the work we consider being important... When I started to hitchhike again, I not only realized that suddenly I was much more free to go wherever I want to, its also a complete other way of social exchange. In the money world everything turns into a deal. But still most of social exchanges are not deals, they wouldn't work as a deal... Just lurk on any of the couchsurfing groups, and you'll know that this spirit is strong and makes happy... Deals (money involved) can be fine unless this way of thinking isn't pushing all other social activities into the background... Obviously it is possible to survive without money, but we could not survive without our communities. And this LD community is a good example how things work extremely efficient without being a deal... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 11:12:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85FF53BEDA; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=7Adfv85aR+GZkvff1I2dApyPEvNUL3nj57cSDpUeHX0=; b=HzpxVxUavWLDSt4vspsAkLTYU4XSzy9Atdf43LxUq/8NMzUkEQataYIhcuUVTt0mII 4KkTBgTmJPNxH/EP5LBpNysrftLI+kw+ZaJCGPAJDWVB3GK1f5u1hsWkcq3aItKSzUp1 ZdsI+p7lLywL/0b2SW/liez7JPDpHEM5z/+lM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=rhTpmyDsdCTTPNbEj1yhVWRCT3r9F9Xl4WPJpaUORVpxDZL2dlhasrOhhOXRTiqw+z e2c1r2S+1RULpO08uPGGMukonBK3m8lrpt4ORXY+UV+A/8IOyw8/INGWpzEqKsV7b8BQ GpVW1Q3FemjQcJesZKW97JqCe7DZXkw4sKsM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281610s5696b5b0k7e7c0dcbcc232eb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908010606l1f5031f3r8cacc2497d7d107c@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:11:49 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b399be875041b75b Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908020411q71c6eefdpb3c7732bb8d14254@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3f0c710608047026b965 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:12:10 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3f0c710608047026b965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, nice reply.. you have filled in some interesting details. I certainly agree with you about the Dumble amps thing.. and all this,.. " well if you call him you wont get your amp thing..." what a load of toss... and it appears that its just a tube amp with a cheap ass regular old distortion pedal covered in glue.. ha ha Back to the film thread.. I said Film is easier to work with, and you had a problem with that...? Ahem everyone in film will tell you thats true actually. Its is of course "More Expensive" and that, in a way, makes it more difficult, budgets are much more rigorous, but anyway the pipeline (in 99.9 persent of cases) is STILL a digital one. Cos its normal now to shoot on 35 or super 16 and then immediately (maybe after a simple corrections color grade) go straight to digital. I can edit full-on HD on my laptop, thats only 4 times worse that 4K or whatever the digital res of film is (I DONT shoot on film, anymore... so I dont know,) I use grungy plugins... ! ha ha! So I can NEARLY make a Cinema film at home.. thats of course wonderful! There is nothing particularly hard about shooting on film. When you go to film school you learn about lighting, F-stops and depth of field, and thats it really.. choose a good film stock for what you are shooting.. and few filters incase you want to go inside and shoot on tungsten. However.. video... formats, dont get me started... progresive or interlace, frame size, is it or not anamorphic.. white balance, black balance, over shooting the whites, contrast problems, you en up bringing in light after light to correct an issue, then you take em all out, and say (we fix it in post - an industry joke now) so now all you problems are about computer software. There are quick and easy ways of getting video to look nice, so theres less fiddling in post. I use a 35mm lens adaptor. That means you attach a special mount onto your video cam, it has a little spinny grid in front to the lens that emulates film grain, and you can attatch 35mm film camera lenses. This means that you can get that lovely FILM CAMERA depth of field thing of putting the background out of focus. Now there are cameras that can do this anyway (look at Red cameras) But I cant hire them cos I bought 3 HD cameras a few years back (for 6,000 dollars each) and need to use them to make good my investment.. but with these lenses you can pretty much make nice filmy stuff. Using video is cheaper.. thats what makes us use it... There are thousands of film-makers out there now that can make their dream, and that is very important and I for one, whould not have my job. (That is making drama based interactive training films for business and schools) So HURRAH for digital... but lets applaud it for the real reasons.. But its not true that this pipeline always works (Film to digital). In Harry Potter (I saw it last week) im sure spotted some magenta and cyan artifacts (probably caused by microscopic imperfections in the compositing) on some hard contrasty edges... looked almost like it was a video projection.. when I know they have 35mm at that cinema... As for Sin City... its an effect.. sure it was done on a budget on video.. but that effect would just not work on almost ANY other film.. ok maybe a few that are also based on graphic novels. Did I think it was beautiful.. well no.., but thats cos i didnt like the movie... but.. now i think about it, It did have some very cool scenes and the Art Direction WAS superb... so OK.. beautiful ... just not MY cup o char. But remember, that video is only 40 years old (usable instead of film .. um 6 years old.. ok 10) Film is 150 years old... No wonder film-makers resent a bunch of programers and engineers coming along and telling us that digital has so and so more mega wotsit, and color saturation is this, and bla bla bla... It just not about the technology.. its about "The way we make films" I do have one thing to admit: I havent done this in a while, but one of my hobbys was to put a roll of black and white thru my Bolex (Yes I have one) and develop it myself (I have an old russian army developing tank from the WW11) then I have made a printed by cutting a slot in another old Bolex so I can feed my hand deveeloped neg, and expose a positive. this I then develop that.. Im a film geek... m On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Oh I've always been plenty cranky. I'm gearing up to be a ranty old man! > > I'm still standing by my statement though. Of course you have the > right to your opinion but there are dangers in your language. As a > professional your opinion means more than the average layman's. I know > my way around a Bolex and let me tell you, in my opinion it's not > easier to shoot on film so I have no idea what the hell you're talking > about when you say "it's easier..." While you can get a great look > from film, as far as I could tell it's mostly a nightmare to work with > compared to modern digital mediums. > > Same thing with tape. Does it have some inherent qualities that are > desirable? Sure. Is it your right to prefer to use it? Absolutely. > Saying "It is better" when you're coming from a place of authority is > a bit irresponsible though. Also, it's not useful. Saying "I like it > better because..." is useful. > > I do find it funny that there are a lot of VSTs out there now that > create the analog crap I spent years as an audio engineer trying to > minimize. After Effect plugs that emulate the look of different film > stocks complete with scratches and fuzz on the shutter. Awesome. I > find it more useful asking the question "does this give me a > look/sound that works with my art?" than "Is this medium better?" > > I had to laugh at the Dumble Amps thread a little while ago. I'm not > saying they're bad or good or worth it... I've never had any > experience with it, but the price tag makes me smile. I think we > spend a lot of time chasing the .5% increase in sound quality that > somehow costs 100 times the cost of the 99.5% good sounding gear. > What's the point? It becomes a fetish object, just like your film > camera is on it's way to becoming. You can argue that, but in 1984 > when I saw my first digital multitrack I said, "this will be done > totally on computers soon" so I called that one. ;) I'm like The Great > Carnak! Have a look at Sin City and tell me that's not a beautiful > film. It's shot digitally and the medium is still young. > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:06 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > > >> > > Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than > >> digital... > >> > > but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... > >> > > no I was just thinking about the way people hear... > >> > > >> > These statements are false. > > > > Seriously though, one of the ways to push my buttons is to make > > blanket "this is better" statements rather than "I like this better > > for these reasons." > > > > Seriously, though What are you like Sottilaro?? I cant just say "Im sorry > > but film is better now???" Im just NOT HERE (Loopers Delight) to argue > and > > stand up for EVERY SINGLE off topic aside I toss into my posts, where Im > > just being witty anyhow. I wasnt making a GREAT BIG IMPORTANT > statement... > > AND it was an opinion... You know it was an opinion becase I started the > > sentance with Im sorry but... then followed with a statement that is > > COMPLETELY OBVIOUS that it cannot possibly be proven, and is SOOOOO > > subjective that NO-ONE could have believed that I was stating a > scientific > > fact. > > > > Im a film-maker dude... we like film... its easy to shoot on... Sure > video > > can look nice.. I happen to LOVE the look of VHS 3 tube cameras from the > > 80s... and video can look like film... but there you go,,, when video > looks > > good, it cos its been made to look like film... therfore FILM IS > BETTER!!! > > > > As for the plastic emulsion being bad for the environment, weak... boy... > > weak... > > > > Thats why I yawned... could be bothered to follow up your (initially > > unsubstantiated blanket statement) These statement are wrong... > > > > > > Please cheer up a bit Mark... i dont know if you noticed but you're being > a > > bit agressive these days... > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c3f0c710608047026b965 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, nice reply.. you have filled in some interesting details. I certainly a= gree with you about the Dumble amps thing.. and all this,.. " well if = you call him you wont get your amp thing..." what a load of toss... an= d it appears that its just a tube amp with a cheap ass regular old distorti= on pedal covered in glue.. ha ha

Back to the film thread.. I said Film is easier to work with, and you h= ad a problem with that...? Ahem=A0 everyone in film will tell you thats tru= e actually. Its is of course "More Expensive" and that, in a way,= makes it more difficult, budgets are much more rigorous, but anyway the pi= peline (in 99.9 persent of cases) is STILL a digital one. Cos its normal no= w to shoot on 35 or super 16 and then immediately (maybe after a simple cor= rections color grade) go straight to digital. I can edit full-on HD on my l= aptop, thats only 4 times worse that 4K or whatever the digital res of film= is (I DONT shoot on film, anymore... so I dont know,) I use grungy plugin= s... ! ha ha! So I can NEARLY make a Cinema film at home.. thats of course = wonderful!

There is nothing particularly hard about shooting on film. When you go = to film school you learn about lighting, F-stops and depth of field, and th= ats it really.. choose a good film stock for what you are shooting.. and fe= w filters incase you want to go inside and shoot on tungsten. However.. vid= eo... formats, dont get me started... progresive or interlace, frame size, = is it or not anamorphic.. white balance, black balance, over shooting the w= hites, contrast problems, you en up bringing in light after light to correc= t an issue, then you take em all out, and say (we fix it in post - an indus= try joke now)=A0 so now all you problems are about computer software.

There are quick and easy ways of getting video to look nice, so theres = less fiddling in post. I use a 35mm lens adaptor. That means you attach a s= pecial mount onto your video cam, it has a little spinny grid in front to t= he lens that emulates film grain, and you can attatch 35mm film camera lens= es. This means that you can get that lovely FILM CAMERA depth of field thin= g of putting the background out of focus. Now there are cameras that can do= this anyway (look at Red cameras) But I cant hire them cos I bought 3 HD c= ameras a few years back (for 6,000 dollars each) and need to use them to ma= ke good my investment.. but with these lenses you can pretty much make nice= filmy stuff.

Using video is cheaper.. thats what makes us use it... There are thousa= nds of film-makers out there now that can make their dream, and that is ver= y important and I for one, whould not have my job. (That is making drama ba= sed interactive training films for business and schools) So HURRAH for digi= tal... but lets applaud it for the real reasons..

But its not true that this pipeline always works (Film to digital). In = Harry Potter=A0 (I saw it last week) im sure spotted some magenta and cyan = artifacts (probably caused by microscopic imperfections in the compositing)= =A0 on some hard contrasty edges... looked almost like it was a video proje= ction.. when I know they have 35mm at that cinema...

As for Sin City... its an effect.. sure it was done on a budget on vide= o.. but that effect would just not work on almost ANY other film.. ok maybe= a few that are also based on graphic novels.
Did I think it was beautif= ul.. well no.., but thats cos i didnt like the movie... but.. now i think a= bout it, It did have some very cool scenes and the Art Direction WAS superb= ... so OK.. beautiful ... just not MY cup o char.

But remember, that video is only 40 years old (usable instead of film .= . um=A0 6 years old.. ok 10) Film is 150 years old... No wonder film-makers= resent a bunch of programers and engineers coming along and telling us tha= t digital has so and so more mega wotsit, and color saturation is this, and= bla bla bla... It just not about the technology.. its about "The way = we make films"

I do have one thing to admit:
I havent done this in a while, but one= of my hobbys was to put a roll of black and white thru my Bolex (Yes I hav= e one) and develop it myself (I have an old russian army developing tank fr= om the WW11) then I have made a printed by cutting a slot in another old Bo= lex so I can feed my hand deveeloped neg, and expose a positive. this I the= n develop that..

Im a film geek...

m

On Sat, Au= g 1, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Oh I've always been plenty cranky. =A0I'm gearing up to be a ranty = old man!

I'm still standing by my statement though. =A0Of course you have the right to your opinion but there are dangers in your language. =A0As a
professional your opinion means more than the average layman's. I know<= br> my way around a Bolex and let me tell you, in my opinion it's not
easier to shoot on film so I have no idea what the hell you're talking<= br> about when you say "it's easier..." While you can get a great= look
from film, as far as I could tell it's mostly a nightmare to work with<= br> compared to modern digital mediums.

Same thing with tape. =A0Does it have some inherent qualities that are
desirable? =A0Sure. Is it your right to prefer to use it? =A0Absolutely. Saying "It is better" when you're coming from a place of auth= ority is
a bit irresponsible though. Also, it's not useful. =A0Saying "I li= ke it
better because..." is useful.

I do find it funny that there are a lot of VSTs out there now that
create the analog crap I spent years as an audio engineer trying to
minimize. After Effect plugs that emulate the look of different film
stocks complete with scratches and fuzz on the shutter. Awesome. I
find it more useful asking the question "does this give me a
look/sound that works with my art?" than "Is this medium better?&= quot;

I had to laugh at the Dumble Amps thread a little while ago. =A0I'm not=
saying they're bad or good or worth it... I've never had any
experience with it, but the price tag makes me smile. =A0I think we
spend a lot of time chasing the .5% increase in sound quality that
somehow costs 100 times the cost of the 99.5% good sounding gear.
What's the point? =A0It becomes a fetish object, just like your film camera is on it's way to becoming. =A0You can argue that, but in 1984 when I saw my first digital multitrack I said, "this will be done
totally on computers soon" so I called that one. ;) I'm like The G= reat
Carnak! =A0 Have a look at Sin City and tell me that's not a beautiful<= br> film. =A0It's shot digitally and the medium is still young.


On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:06 AM, mark francombe<mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>
>> > > Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS bett= er than
>> digital...
>> > > but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more conv= enient...
>> > > no I was just thinking about the way people hear...
>> >
>> > These statements are false.
>
> Seriously though, one of the ways to push my buttons is to make
> blanket "this is better" statements rather than "I like= this better
> for these reasons."
>
> Seriously, though What are you like Sottilaro?? I cant just say "= Im sorry
> but film is better now???" Im just NOT HERE (Loopers Delight) to = argue and
> stand up for EVERY SINGLE off topic aside I toss into my posts, where = Im
> just being witty anyhow. I wasnt making a GREAT BIG IMPORTANT statemen= t...
> AND it was an opinion... You know it was an opinion becase I started t= he
> sentance with Im sorry but... then followed with a statement that is > COMPLETELY OBVIOUS that it cannot possibly be proven, and is SOOOOO > subjective that NO-ONE could have believed that I was stating a scient= ific
> fact.
>
> Im a film-maker dude... we like film... its easy to shoot on... Sure v= ideo
> can look nice.. I happen to LOVE the look of VHS 3 tube cameras from t= he
> 80s... and video can look like film... but there you go,,, when video = looks
> good, it cos its been made to look like film... therfore FILM IS BETTE= R!!!
>
> As for the plastic emulsion being bad for the environment, weak... boy= ...
> weak...
>
> Thats why I yawned... could be bothered to follow up your (initially > unsubstantiated blanket statement) These statement are wrong...
>
>
> Please cheer up a bit Mark... i dont know if you noticed but you'r= e being a
> bit agressive these days...
>




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancom= be
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c3f0c710608047026b965-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 12:14:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC6F13BEE2; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A75832D.5080400@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:14:37 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for July, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:14:44 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/top20-07jul.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for July, 2009. Shows #639 to #643; 2-July-2009 to 30-July-2009 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox website: http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 The Special Focus for July was Jeffrey Koepper. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL =========================================================== Alpha Wave Movement - Concept of Motion - HRR Citizen Green - Plant Cell - High Grade Media Cluster - Qua - Nepenthe Create - In the Blink of an Eye - Groove Forrest Fang - Phantoms - Projekt Frank Van Bogaert with Erik Wollo - Air Machine - Ace Jeffrey Koepper - Etherea - Air Space Jeffrey Koepper - Luminosity - Air Space Jeffrey Koepper - Momentium - Air Space Jeffrey Koepper - Radiate - Ricochet Dream Jeffrey Koepper - Sequentaria - Air Space Lemonchill - Sentant - Ricochet Dream Markus Reuter and Ian Boddy - Dervish - DiN Mystified - Frigid Radiance - Triple Bath Paul Ellis - The Last Hiding Place of Beauty - Groove Picture Palace Music - Curriculum Vitae I - Ricochet Dream Radio Massacre International - E-live 2008 - Northern Echo Robert Carty - Starlight Volume 2 - Deep Sky Steve Roach - Dynamic Stillness - Projekt Various Artists - Elektrik Cowboys - Ricochet Dream Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 14:10:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C293E3BEE2; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A759E41.6080309@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:10:09 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> <4A756643.7000002@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A756643.7000002@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:10:12 +0000 (UTC) I've done a number of long hitchhiking trips, and they were some of my most formative experiences. I think it helped lead me to my current mode of traveling/touring, and even to the kind of work I can handle doing for money. I need to have control over my time. I feel very lucky to have ended up in computers, which has enabled me to have complete flexibility, working by the hour from anywhere. (The getting-paid-by-the-hour component is important - the concept of salary never sat right w/me). I wasn't necessarily going to share this here, but after some shakeup in my personal life it has turned out that I'm not going to be based in Mexico anymore. For the time being I don't have a fixed address, I'm just bouncing between friends and family in the eastern half of the US while preparing for my next tour. I don't feel the need to have a solid home base, and with wanting to tour most of the time, it wouldn't be much of a home base anyway. But my communities are VITAL to me, whether it's old friends or groups like LD where there's common ground from which new friendships develop. That's where my solidity is. Funny, just last night a friend told me that there's a growing movement of people doing something like what I'm doing, and then Stefan mentioned the couchsurfing groups (which I'm definitely going to follow up on). Inspiring. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Its an incredible waste of human resources, that most people divide > their life into "free time" and "go to work". > We are only free if all of our time is free time, including the work > we consider being important... > When I started to hitchhike again, I not only realized that suddenly I > was much more free to go wherever I want to, its also a complete other > way of social exchange. In the money world everything turns into a > deal. But still most of social exchanges are not deals, they wouldn't > work as a deal... > Just lurk on any of the couchsurfing groups, and you'll know that this > spirit is strong and makes happy... > > Deals (money involved) can be fine unless this way of thinking isn't > pushing all other social activities into the background... > Obviously it is possible to survive without money, but we could not > survive without our communities. And this LD community is a good > example how things work extremely efficient without being a deal... > > Stefan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 15:14:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E0863BEE1; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6YouJqmZcfPJZV7o4iSr2bs3SRxm+ZBPsRcgAwmXhlw=; b=VR/MPyK6kzO9SYHohiNc/Ag0gpcm4dAP/h96KsqD7LDy8xBVEOM+MNniYmnCqk/uuI GFh3oRMnyTZirzRgd61CGhI6YWW9s6ajLhRKiBh73vA9RXw/dkNBJhEMWe1F9ppTIQsT J+d5JEPflSA/KCy1/MFqgh/DA0Sbn0Ugr1hXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h/fTzVVBbSIRa3G+A5BdyKqxWiRRzpeDAuln1k9FtDpLI/SkBkSNt2wGJP8CNLyUyG 3puc+ySN0f3X+jH39FXFgV0rWu4yMHO6Ryroh77CKPRSnXCNKBTLIRuBfYQh5VxyYSf2 7wXHPRQqQp5YbyGPYdL0Ya8wTqLNLH/qLCM7M= Message-ID: <4A75AD6D.5080600@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:14:53 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: iphone looper ... apparently References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson schrieb: > The one thing I didn't like about JUCE when I tried it was that > everything looks like Tracktion :-) By which I mean that it uses no > native UI componentry so things don't look and feel exactly like a > native app. The new Max/MSP is also based on JUCE. 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Email: paramondfinance@sify.com From Morpold500@gmail.com Sun Aug 2 16:34:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 758 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:34:13 UTC Received: from mr.vnn.vn (mr.vnn.vn [203.162.4.148]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC043BEDE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3966 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 16:33:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (abuse@[77.211.228.101]) (envelope-sender ) by mr.vnn.vn (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Aug 2009 16:33:54 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Capt. Morgan Leopold" Subject: How are you my Good friend Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:21:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090802163413.0AC043BEDE@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Dear friend,
I want to inform you that I am interested in your service as i intend to invest in your country,But i have a business proposal for you. I am a captain with the British Army troop in Iraq,on war against terrorism. Based on the British legislative and executive decision for withdrawing troops from Iraq on the advent of President Barrack Obama,I have been deployed to come and work in one of EU military base soonest. Our mission is to help beef up terrorist targeted states,mostly the United states and the European Union on the war against terrorism. On the other hand I want to inform you that I have in my possession the sum of USD$12.8 million which was recovered from one of our raids on terrorists here in Iraq because they keep most of their money at home for evil activities which they normally get through illegal deals on crude oil and hard drugs.
Based on the suffering we undergo here some of us do meet such luck. It happened that I went for this raid with the men in my base and I decided to take it as my share for my stress here in this evil land filled with suicide bombers.I deposited this money with a red cross agent informing him that we are making contact for the real owner of the money.It is under my power to approve whoever comes forth for this money. I wish to use this money to invest in your country outside the confines of the United Kingdom because that is where I intend to move over with my family at my retirement years.
I cannot move this money to Britain as i intend to invest out of England and i am a uniformed man so I need someone I could deal with.I chose your company because of its versatility as read over your website and because i need somebody i can trust and it would be wise working with somebody like you who has a business where I can invest into. If you accept,I will transfer the money to Europe where you will be the beneficiary because I am a uniformed person and I cannot be parading such an amount so I need to present someone as the beneficiary.
I am English and an intelligence officer at that so I have a 100% authentic means of transferring the money through diplomatic courier service .I just need your acceptance and all is done. Please if you are interested in this transaction I will give to you the complete details you need for us to carry out this transaction successfully.I decided to find someone that is real and not imaginary and that is why I went to a secured website where I can be sure that the person is real and has a means for me to invest.
Where we are now we can only communicate through our military communication facilities which is secured so nobody can monitor our emails,then I can explain in details to you.I will only reach you through email,because our calls our monitored,I just have to be sure whom I am dealing with.
If you are interested please send me your personal mobile number so I can call you for further inquiries when I am out of our military network.I am writing from a fresh email account so if you are not interested do not reply to this email and please delete this message,if no response after 3days I will then search for someone else.I am doing this on trust,you should understand and you should know that as a trained military expert I will always play safe in case you are the bad type,but I pray you are not because USD$12.8million USD is a lot of money which is the dream of anyone.
I wait for your response so we can go on. In less than 7days the money should have been noted on your account and I will come over for my money.I will give to you 30% of the sum and 70% is for my dream.
I hope I am been fair on this deal.
Regards,
Capt.Morgan Leopold
 
 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 17:12:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242203BEEA; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249233132; bh=FkJU1JiiDkALvEVslHbPx0YoNBcii8ieS/BcNnSbluE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pz1TTRSfMXHf4ZNB4HF5239fTsUIphI5lxSSFhzXAIR9Xigb+UeX/WhQee/C9ZGR0YbLUMB1Fwjbfn/qG1XG6SC5w1Ml8IT/ZkMtyo9YqrNiRyxSoNo44YT081MK2kjPdhN53CN0Qxw9svUdpgfjO9SzeIcPAQhx8tMmuJZv4pU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2U0C7i0LW8WzyJQTPHjoJdzkSviuapKQ3+4+gNYVd9ZL+VpE6Hy5mDEzyuBOi4chluUlx0fvvjgLs+BvUu4tNvCTnsCFVF45JE4ruq5YiVl6/pWnXCRKnmdaINKOecpOjowHW8ktB+VRBZ8ITWTEH8/XS1LSGew9zqkxCPlU5EQ=; Message-ID: <154647.99080.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cmeQnW4VM1m5w2cDSb64FOo8Zg3HgEFDlRHcxd_sUvrNm1gl6XgyfHMrgoQ40CV0.z_p0.2jvtZ.Un_BxnwaV.GDY78kXa0w7breOtuHgKwxh2UCcdXIYDombht_BfY2ez9kwqK_unZiIdd4Ev_v147kVvVqXJTOMPX2.8lsy2WDT_fxJrTGDS.8fDUZ036_zLI3ZQq4JA1paSFOZPh1w4.xaEUsGTW4r455x8cFI_FF2vsMp04lxZzyOyIMdmnXqvkMu.q4vM1YblK23ay0aN7kKHhoPp.wFBuUOZxUooF9soCKZ0d8ty4Cg6VoGsyXC3w- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Petepong Phasukyud Subject: Hi Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-494385286-1249233130=:99080" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:12:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-494385286-1249233130=:99080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm a newbie looper interester. Now I'm looking for some looper to experiment some voice (I'm a singer) I saw RC50 , RC20 , Gibson EDP , Jamman , Akai Headrush E2 I don't know which one suit for me. I just wanna get something not too expensive and can try many loop as I can (,y only instrument I'm gonna use is my voice) recording my songs - transfer to computer or record to computer. Haven't think too live performance yet. Can you guys suggest me? I have no idea . Pete --0-494385286-1249233130=:99080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii



I'm a newbie looper interester.

Now I'm looking for some looper to experiment some voice (I'm a singer)

I saw RC50 , RC20 , Gibson EDP , Jamman , Akai Headrush E2

I don't know which one suit for me.

I just wanna get something not too expensive and can try many loop as I can (,y only instrument I'm gonna use is my voice) recording my songs - transfer to computer or record to computer. Haven't think too live performance yet.

Can you guys suggest me? I have no idea .

Pete


--0-494385286-1249233130=:99080-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 17:16:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB5BB3BEF1; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:15:59 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090802171559.133000@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Does Mainstage + Ableton make sense? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+SQuJLOtuS1mTeTDLFaYVl4DmuhAnVhN2zKpydZO aytsJ2UZBDSrO+L1oNQmTGhnslk5SzckWnQA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: h48TIJxFaHItI9NJ3SQlyhFiamdhZARH X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Resent-Message-ID: <_7pBmC.A.nbE.UncdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I'm playing around with Logic Mainstage and was just wandering: Is using Mainstage + Ableton 8 a live looping setup that could make sense? The idea: - Use mainstage for vocal/instrument fx, amp simulations => pre-loop effects - Loop using Ableton 8 (possibly add Moebius) - Add post-loop fx in Ableton (i.e. filters, time fx...) Would does it make and does it work (cpu? routing? latency?) ? thanks Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 17:36:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CCE83BEEE; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=a+2Q9FnUqSDSxIvYYyC/DNvzeoWgdgp6W+iai5D7KA0=; b=izH3QpluNgK2XR6pfy5yR5HwpieBF0RYuW4xVCtCI1/QDSj11yMlIc6Yjsp1wVkSzL lidiEmW0gpvymtwhIulYO8uSP2pE7YyvJYq1LCU0MwbcPlAyyckXEvHBEou0Dsu8tfDX +ZWAStWjhHqWBDaxRMAUMh1ijo4n/iQAF9Nhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PARib+2mNSAHNWJ9t8yk2xPC2BtRvscEwIR36KfxMtfCLdQ3MGr7YQyPlXga+0RYHo swABWh7NfN7sEK4+qSrFchWqFgDWNS9qgh+MFGW2+OgrUQCcCe8rAMmExv7vWbJk3v/7 UKnbvky5dhwm/4qu/1Fjveg5CHLrF50WtFL9c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:36:40 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908021036q313f6166hfbe083e48ec173d0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: iTouch music I created and app review From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a6dea0c8ab04702c18ec Resent-Message-ID: <9l-8u.A.LBF.q6cdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:36:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a6dea0c8ab04702c18ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I mentioned a couple of weeks ago inheriting an iTouch from my son when he got an iPhone. I began to discover as many probably know a number of useful music apps and possibilities. The challenge and somewhat still is was a decent way to capture outside sources into it's world. So far from my research it seems to be limited to a mic at least with the 2nd Gen iTouch. I think with a couple of older iPod series Belkin and possibly others are making hardware that you can bring in line sources but I'm still researching that. For the moment and current budget I chose a combination mic, headphone adapter and remote switch called SmartTalkmade by Griffin Technologies, it was $14 and probably better for 'voice' recording though for acoustic instruments (example follows) I have found it useful. One of the best apps from those I've tried either 'free apps' or 'paid' from the iTunes app store is StompVoxwhich is rather cool to my experiences so far. Cost was $1.99 which hovers around norm for several audio applications though others can fetch up to $19.99. Stompvox is an environment made up of 5 rather cool looking effects pedals - a noise gate, looper, reverb, echo and a mixer, all visually/functionwise modeled after kind of a mix of early Boss and I'd say MXR pedals. Then the app has 11 presets that use all the pedals in various schemes that can be edited. Preset names are Big Bathroom, Brown Acid, Cathedral, Clangers, Human Beat Box, Platform Announcer, Resonating Robot, Rub a Dub, Shower and Subway. You can save a preset to your own name and your own scheme. So far I personally like Brown Acid which does sort of rapid panning thing somehow, Cathedral which as the name suggests is heavy verb/echo and Human Beat Box which is a nice range of enhancement though I've used it with only the gate, looper and mixer. The looping does not seem to have layering limits but does seem to limit each loop to 45 seconds though I still may be missing some functionality here. Once you've created a loop series that you are ready to finalize and produce you have an option to export the file either with effects or without to a nearby router hosted device/computer which is somehow uniformly always on an open port which befuddles me a bit. When I first did an export I thought I was going to a Stompvox server as I was in the laundry and when it was done the software said go to an ip and port address to download on a computer which the export produces the file to a wav file. Once done however I was home and I couldn't access the address. I saved again and realized it was now going to my router 192.168.2.7 with a port address. When you go to that address you are presented with a StompVox page and a download link and at that point you Control Click on the Mac and save the Wav to your hard drive. So I recorded 6 loops (unfortunately lost one in the above process somehow) and imported the remaining 5 into Audacity to work with which only included duplicating and reversing two of them for the creation of my piece which I call 'Transparency 53'. Though I indicated turning off reverb on some of the loops I did use the Cathedral set stock which is heavy and dark in this. Instruments were oud, wood flute, hand drum, table surface and plastic cassette case and my voice. I have posted for your listening and thoughts up on Box.net at http://www.box.net/shared/6fyxpntzrf . I also have bought another app called iSample that I'm still evaluating and trying to see if there might be a live option. StompVox seems so far aproduction tool and not live but I may change my mind on that. So far as the former it's pretty cool. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a6dea0c8ab04702c18ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I mentioned a couple of weeks ago inheriting an iTouch from my son when he = got an iPhone. =A0I began to discover as many probably know a number of use= ful music apps and possibilities. =A0The challenge and somewhat still is wa= s a decent way to capture outside sources into it's world. =A0So far fr= om my research it seems to be limited to a mic at least with the 2nd Gen iT= ouch. =A0I think with a couple of older iPod series Belkin and possibly oth= ers are making hardware that you can bring in line sources but I'm stil= l researching that.

For the moment and current budget I chose a combination mic,= headphone adapter and remote switch called SmartTalk made by Griffin Technologies= , it was $14 and probably better for 'voice' recording though for a= coustic instruments (example follows) I have found it useful.

One of the best apps from those I've tried either &= #39;free apps' or 'paid' from the iTunes app store is=A0StompVox which is rather cool to my experiences so f= ar. =A0Cost was $1.99 which hovers around norm for several audio applicatio= ns though others can fetch up to $19.99.

Stompvox is an environment made up of 5 rather cool loo= king effects pedals - a noise gate, looper, reverb, echo and a mixer, all v= isually/functionwise modeled after kind of a mix of early Boss and I'd = say MXR pedals. =A0Then the app has 11 presets that use all the pedals in v= arious schemes that can be edited. =A0Preset names are Big Bathroom, Brown = Acid, Cathedral, Clangers, Human Beat Box, Platform Announcer, Resonating R= obot, Rub a Dub, Shower and Subway. =A0You can save a preset to your own na= me and your own scheme. =A0So far I personally like Brown Acid which does s= ort of rapid panning thing somehow, Cathedral which as the name suggests is= heavy verb/echo and Human Beat Box which is a nice range of enhancement th= ough I've used it with only the gate, looper and mixer.

The looping does not seem to have layering limits but d= oes seem to limit each loop to 45 seconds though I still may be missing som= e functionality here. =A0Once you've created a loop series that you are= ready to finalize and produce you have an option to export the file either= with effects or without to a nearby router hosted device/computer which is= somehow uniformly always on an open port which befuddles me a bit. =A0When= I first did an export I thought I was going to a Stompvox server as I was = in the laundry and when it was done the software said go to an ip and port = address to download on a computer which the export produces the file to a w= av file. =A0Once done however I was home and I couldn't access the addr= ess. =A0I saved again and realized it was now going to my router 192.168.2.= 7 with a port address. =A0When you go to that address you are presented wit= h a StompVox page and a download link and at that point you Control Click o= n the Mac and save the Wav to your hard drive.

So I recorded 6 loops (unfortunately lost one in the ab= ove process somehow) and imported the remaining 5 into Audacity to work wit= h which only included duplicating and reversing two of them for the creatio= n of my piece which I call 'Transparency 53'. =A0Though I indicated= turning off reverb on some of the loops I did use the Cathedral set stock = which is heavy and dark in this. =A0Instruments were oud, wood flute, hand = drum, table surface and plastic cassette case and my voice. =A0I have poste= d for your listening and thoughts up on Box.net at=A0http://www.box.net/shared/6fyxpntzrf .

I = also have bought another app called iSample that I'm still evaluating a= nd trying to see if there might be a live option. StompVox seems so far apr= oduction tool and not live but I may change my mind on that. So far as the= former it's pretty cool.

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--001636c5a6dea0c8ab04702c18ec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 18:49:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21DD13BEF3; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=x5iXYEGurtvX/d/gEhxoQlFLXwyUeZVt0b2jTi4fDdjcoY5QPXhl2LfNIlwmdRfjU8EB66a6XbrHdwKA0VVbxRY9W7CYFfsLvWTDFdn9rCwLHerSE/LN9EUinJpvLsTFCcw8bswDQVSX7sPN/Ye8bn7Hs3ZPr0fTNM9d9fhvZH0= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: oZQ6YEIVM1nmjHUfgAevmRTx9wnpeTyg.B3P1M3v2HFv1mWwtyArEWCsZq8Xd9FWBNojZY7b2Zm5lac2wXgo531JA3a53lvLQYN.6bYzIDlBqG8Vu_VWn8Nxo2Sa367sQaVWz3CU_SvBIF.D1HivSoeC2zsIdyMc3b851NB3gX0K88P8e9qnEoCum1LOz8WUcgBCykiHM5HP2BD9hScj30_w2kSU_xHRm5IpOr_b2rBA.7X9Icj.oHRaO1tjtL7WskDjqPHgqOrAZMMYMv32UonnHPEaWOOQLCeurr0HOLzDMpYgXUmf.0.se8bz1EHdlCJHaQcJGBFdQlaM.vbgzvTix_Pn0n3p2Go- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7EBD03E5CE4B41A28FD398BEACA52251@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <154647.99080.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Hi Loopers Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:49:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01CA13AA.549ACE40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <0jigh.A.vDH.p-ddKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:49:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CA13AA.549ACE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd recommend the Line 6 DL4. I started with it, and I still use it = today. Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Petepong Phasukyud=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: Hi Loopers I'm a newbie looper interester. Now I'm looking for some looper to experiment some voice = (I'm a singer) I saw RC50 , RC20 , Gibson EDP , Jamman , Akai Headrush = E2 I don't know which one suit for me. I just wanna get something not too expensive and can try = many loop as I can (,y only instrument I'm gonna use is my voice) = recording my songs - transfer to computer or record to computer. Haven't = think too live performance yet. Can you guys suggest me? I have no idea . Pete =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release Date: = 08/02/09 05:56:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CA13AA.549ACE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd recommend the Line 6 DL4. I started = with it,=20 and I still use it today.
 
Ricky
 
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I'm a newbie looper interester.

Now = I'm=20 looking for some looper to experiment some voice (I'm a=20 singer)

I saw RC50 , RC20 , Gibson EDP , Jamman , = Akai=20 Headrush E2

I don't know which one suit for = me.

I=20 just wanna get something not too expensive and can try = many loop=20 as I can (,y only instrument I'm gonna use is my voice)=20 recording my songs - transfer to computer or record to = computer.=20 Haven't think too live performance yet.

Can you = guys=20 suggest me? I have no idea=20 = .

Pete



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------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CA13AA.549ACE40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 20:36:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E5193BEF4; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_31806408-766b-4ff7-bb9b-5b5cfaf93eea_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: looping hurdy gurdy Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:36:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <154647.99080.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <154647.99080.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2009 20:36:33.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC45A700:01CA13B0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:36:34 +0000 (UTC) --_31806408-766b-4ff7-bb9b-5b5cfaf93eea_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks=2C emoticons=2C display pic= s=2C and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_31806408-766b-4ff7-bb9b-5b5cfaf93eea_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Windows= Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. = Get Them Now = --_31806408-766b-4ff7-bb9b-5b5cfaf93eea_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 21:02:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242643BEF8; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A7EVojEbxrtr9bkCxKnY10gQUU+IDqdnyYNc6b3tXz0=; b=iefRmlssn/5xrL5h0LjWmlYvgPvFC90N/A2TtTcuqE6UdlDJk3uiLhLGEYqpmVcApB m7unI661wn840R2Qeh21I7S8vxnivQVWXQiX89Wd4CBNwQ6b+jpGHukIyZBLldP1TAmO T6EvnzmwO+b6LDZoCnfv/fpcU+pHTz3tsD5JQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iLxuskDErVU4dVpU1/e5WJfFNAo4iSYrQTPnLTImiVAbTVGU/ahOY7+JD+TA1V3Ibc YDre5KBjxE2F1pT6vmOP5wpwF4NJ9JLLy0qouy6PkswnOzfIaCBNzUsbUpxd1RviAvUD bX5dEH0L3RhasZ1l1NscrEKAkeDL45lzQB/rs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090802171559.133000@gmx.net> References: <20090802171559.133000@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:56:34 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2ec25f1f4affcdaf Message-ID: <101191640908021356m1b2f3c86xda46d402732efdde@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Does Mainstage + Ableton make sense? From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:02:00 +0000 (UTC) In fact, I use Mainstage + Ableton6 + SooperLooper + Max (to record the whole mess 6 channels in realtime) in a similar way. of course, i'm not using the ableton looper, Latency isn't too bad - I have Mainstage getting guitar input directly from my MOTU and sending output to Jack, which splits and sends to sooperlooper and out to the MOTU. you can always adjust the latency of a looper to work with whatever you want as long as you're not monitoring your input via the looper, so that's no problem. The only issues are processing power and memory - my Macbook is kind of at it's limits on both using a short 64-sample buffer size. but then again, I'm also using Sooperlooper to send midi clocks to Live to drive drum patterns that are either audio loops in Live or MIDI Clips that are getting sent BACK to another Mainstage channel to drive Mainstage drum kits. And i'm also mildly processing and looping another 2 channels of audio from my guitar synth, and sometimes capturing/looping additional audio from people I'm playing with. It's quite sick. And I'm using MIDI Patch back to get MIDI from point A to point B when it doesn't seem to get there by default. It actually works fine (except that once in a blue moon SooperLooper goes nuts with nasty noise and needs to be shut down and restarted, then the Jack routing patch reloaded - but that is infrequent), tho it took a long time to get here. Important hint: make an automator app to start everything in the right order, and don't try to automate the jack server stuff - that needs manual intervention to be controlled properly - ask me if you get that far! On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > I'm playing around with Logic Mainstage and was just wandering: > Is using Mainstage + Ableton 8 a live looping setup that could make sense? > > The idea: > - Use mainstage for vocal/instrument fx, amp simulations => pre-loop effects > - Loop using Ableton 8 (possibly add Moebius) > - Add post-loop fx in Ableton (i.e. filters, time fx...) > > Would does it make and does it work (cpu? routing? latency?) ? > > thanks > Buzap > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 21:34:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 023DD3BEF8; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6PzTRjpiFh2oNOazUJMAkdSURpXmO/X6MIrz5gzLFaY=; b=Y8nd1Q6o8lJMB5ViU7esAeB5jEq1MbPThvH15KblaS3RMkZsQzRnpN89YSoapUl1rD zp79tyOFdYKYqljQn4EMGnUBn6oDWdnh++OA3iYxepOFnlJW5IffKZ1Zr/meG/eftrsd mk/I9AG9kE97k4VLzXBh6xiKVWPtZu93DXWRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VCNyjzXkDBA2DZy4m+si59UhnqaRgBIKuPZRZwfIMIdm1cAeyextncPjWicEtt3H0J 3PueEx7qHgYBRGNIk5eC+FvWXran+X48XyfVaqa8TbhvftGkYSawmJyHy9Gjs+AUE0K+ y5HoV5hNujTEe20cP9qkNRbSe1X4jbh6/Aias= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090802171559.133000@gmx.net> References: <20090802171559.133000@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:34:22 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908021434n6e9cd890u99900cf4fb8660bb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Does Mainstage + Ableton make sense? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:34:22 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I'm playing around with Logic Mainstage and was just wandering: > Is using Mainstage + Ableton 8 a live looping setup that could make sense? > > The idea: > - Use mainstage for vocal/instrument fx, amp simulations => pre-loop effects > - Loop using Ableton 8 (possibly add Moebius) > - Add post-loop fx in Ableton (i.e. filters, time fx...) > > Would does it make and does it work (cpu? routing? latency?) ? It doesn't make sense to me until you tell us how you plan to connect those two applications. Are you gong to synchronize them tempo wise? How are audio streams going to be piped between them? ReWire? Could work if you use Mainstage 2, since MS 1 doesn't support ReWire. It seems from your description that you want to input some audio to Mainstage and some audio to Live and then you also want the output of Mainstege to be input into Live. Phew... Isn't it simpler to patch it up and try if it works? It would be interesting to hear about your findings. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 21:40:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E524D3BEFA; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=G/ocu1RKwu8NdQpl198EIrYC3yfuwBd6kZ8/d5gsIF0=; b=B7n7MXDDKzuOsxVEB37QCzF4wA9uUOL5+TsKFD+lhagATcYzpQW6wDmagV/CFzTjn2 ybJwYO2FjXCn14Rg1w2RBwkMM2hDn46O3e09E9fU9roJlOk1wLKUY8wbL1YFO9CKmgmM F9tIWQy/mY+qOITBzsn6kYqJZul5ZPk2vE88Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mWN1cJyPPHirh1W0EDZ45YdnvmvDEoPHydtIS1Eddfyud7C+HqYMuMZeaLf+clBkcW OVMe11u4vx2eqYSaqdNqLdmmi+43R1jABXqufMTarm+IPvUijrNQyHKZHneg0j/41GXh kZ96vNdj/xjEyHs3UV8nsSIeepYX6kZ0DsEpk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <154647.99080.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:40:20 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908021440x5af43f7pe2a6730dc036e8be@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping hurdy gurdy From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-cKjlC.A.H9D.EfgdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:40:20 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU Great clip! Mattihas Loibner did a great set at the looping festival in Z=C3=BCrich 2005. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 22:02:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B31263BF00; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MUqaOqAOstJ0UZmRy02/DQB+vjiOAIo58HbgAsAlfWA=; b=rcC0uZ120XlzTAnzkAvgGnJHB0ZjE7XMEu7AzJBgMThCQ3WwZJSIUNvAprcTxT3xN9 uwGhu2ceSZ1nltvjLOdJ4ASSiQc1s0r6K2vSWaTOkN6e7aR1lfLAHpi98UKMrjiSPFDz zfAgyaXZmu3HD+BuFoZo3fOSZAc/q6iJ0IJp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xFbc876ZHlpQSlzFayf5fu4fLMI1vZU10gdjUS+5S8ii3hUv3RCLM+z/UMKv13D8CM OQpyR2QNVu/Gaazw2RNFsYHP/3Q0sUDZa4xZBVbtKBiGrerLFvowlumrg1xzD1bswqXs RNQFr0gH2P8nlTx/rIVCXLf526wGukgjkpTB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:02:09 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908021502q5a829e01s28c301a55c90b1b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual Sound and Vision - Call for Performers From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, this is the Call for Performers for the virtual video streaming festival I've been talking about. Please feel free to forward it anywhere you like, post it on your blog, twitter the link out etc. Link to twitter: http://moinlabs.de/vsv/cfp.htm Of course, I'm happy to answer any questions (off-list). Thanks, Rainer --- VIRTUAL SOUND AND VISION Festival - Call for Performers =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Please do distribute this call for performers freely among mailing lists, forums and blogs. In your own interest, make sure that contact info does not get lost in the process. The email box for communication is: virtualfestival =C4TT moinlabs DOT de A two-day long festival on video stream services of performers playing from their home to yours. A very long webstream gig with performers from all over the world - your input and ideas are very welcome. Virtual Sound and Vision ("VSV" for short) is the first international video streaming music festival, presenting music with visual content to a virtual audience via the world wide web. Using contemporary services for free video streaming, the art is transmitted from the individual artists' performance spaces via the festival site (a truly virtual entity) to the audience, watching and listening from virtually everywhere. The selection of acts will focus on artists making creative use of combination of audio/video (e.g. live video processing, music played to silent films) and/or internet technology for music art (e.g. realtime internet collaboration). VSV is scheduled for the weekend of Sat 3rd/Sun 4th of October 2009 in the time span from 16:00 UTC (http://tinyurl.com/ne6hts) to 23:00 UTC (http://tinyurl.com/nkagrl) each. (Please check links for local time conversions). INFO FOR FESTIVAL GUESTS: ------------------------- The entire festival will be streamed via the internet, there will be no actual and "physical" festival location. Watching the festival requires the use of a contemporary computer of almost any kind (e.g. desktop, notebook, netbook) and OS, a web browser and an acceptable internet connection (e.g. slow DSL link or faster). The festival is provided free of charge. Signup is not necessary. A bill of performers and running order will be published on Sunday September 13th of 2009 on the festival website and via a festival newsgroup. Until then, check out our web presence (see below). INFO FOR ASPIRING ARTISTS: -------------------------- To make this info as short as possible, the actual call for performers is located here: http://moinlabs.de/vsv/cfp.htm. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 23:32:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5ECBB3BF00; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=w64LhDmYVi9ZfO3l/1dbtQhvpsl63q4NfjcCTBWSbcI=; b=B/7BbOuHKKWmR/zokcFIbTkCY22k20Io6P8EKm5GkFWL7y/OyV6/gPz2KEKjBe/Qaa nE53P8ZjsgLm9CbZqmTtROW5L8mooldixBn/vbZI/hNwT51jWftjiMx64yEsbSj/rdOy 0X2XtY8JDzflUIs7xQK2OkTb2gp6pdrVB9tek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bIIaksCak82RPLz+z1Ds86GCfcP9OrN9lDzEY99IZp7hdwxURmh9kBo40tFZjf7NMz dntCCSaL8FN5Gfg06e4l9p42hzq25kgBBF1LNm0pY/51+FvMbQD5TcoYrYOMuNgLhnBO lW++ZzS+UFL1DPYoMKZ5Hfywtywt0VK7cR/WA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A759E41.6080309@mhorse.com> References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> <4A756643.7000002@googlemail.com> <4A759E41.6080309@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:32:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Hitchhiking only works if someone's got it together to buy a car. Couchsurfing only works if someone has spent their money on a couch (and a place to keep it in) I'd love to live in a magic fairy land universe where everyone just did the work they felt was "important." I bet that land smells like a pile of garbage... I bet that land would be a pile of garbage. Who wants to do that job? Would the building I sheet rocked exist in that land, because let me tell you I did not feel important doing that job. It did, however, give me the ability to buy my own couch, car and rent a place to keep them in. While traveling in Japan last September it struck us that the idea of "menial labor" didn't really exist there like it does in the west. It seemed like everyone was proud of their job and worked hard at it whether is was fast food worker or hotel manager. It made me feel ashamed of our culture where your self esteem seems linked to the "quality" of job you have and not the quality of work you do. Here's a question I have. If your tour can't even support itself in terms of travel... why? Wouldn't you be better off finding local gigs and distributing your music all over the world via the internet? Just wondering... On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I've done a number of long hitchhiking trips, and they were some of my most > formative experiences. I think it helped lead me to my current mode of > traveling/touring, and even to the kind of work I can handle doing for > money. I need to have control over my time. I feel very lucky to have ended > up in computers, which has enabled me to have complete flexibility, working > by the hour from anywhere. (The getting-paid-by-the-hour component is > important - the concept of salary never sat right w/me). > > I wasn't necessarily going to share this here, but after some shakeup in my > personal life it has turned out that I'm not going to be based in Mexico > anymore. For the time being I don't have a fixed address, I'm just bouncing > between friends and family in the eastern half of the US while preparing for > my next tour. I don't feel the need to have a solid home base, and with > wanting to tour most of the time, it wouldn't be much of a home base anyway. > But my communities are VITAL to me, whether it's old friends or groups like > LD where there's common ground from which new friendships develop. That's > where my solidity is. > > Funny, just last night a friend told me that there's a growing movement of > people doing something like what I'm doing, and then Stefan mentioned the > couchsurfing groups (which I'm definitely going to follow up on). Inspiring. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > >> Its an incredible waste of human resources, that most people divide their >> life into "free time" and "go to work". >> We are only free if all of our time is free time, including the work we >> consider being important... >> When I started to hitchhike again, I not only realized that suddenly I was >> much more free to go wherever I want to, its also a complete other way of >> social exchange. In the money world everything turns into a deal. But still >> most of social exchanges are not deals, they wouldn't work as a deal... >> Just lurk on any of the couchsurfing groups, and you'll know that this >> spirit is strong and makes happy... >> >> Deals (money involved) can be fine unless this way of thinking isn't >> pushing all other social activities into the background... >> Obviously it is possible to survive without money, but we could not >> survive without our communities. And this LD community is a good example how >> things work extremely efficient without being a deal... >> >> Stefan > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 23:34:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00F803BF01; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=att.net; s=dkim01; i=sedrick_rogers@att.net; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249256055; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject: To:From; bh=mhEEtN5RMZ697Q27wdJMcncP+xXFCGjCLMs075YJ4io=; b=hCC cvoLwEv6/you0CM5pITi0yUdr7pgSBz9nEsnDdbZZdv0gkayk1GwYk+PuNkzSIsK/8L Ck3Cj4pXOYzrLUDA== X-Originating-IP: [68.220.166.93] From: "Sedrick Rogers" To: Subject: Digitech JamMan Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:33:14 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01ca13c9$9c2d7720$d4886560$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01CA139F.B3576F20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoTyZp4hfki0V0sTeShV+jz9Jktsg== Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:34:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CA139F.B3576F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. Does the Digitech JamMan have loop quantization? And if I were to plug a mic into the XLR input of the pedal and wanted to do a vocal loop, what kind of cord do I need to put in the output of the pedal and into the mic input of the PA system? ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CA139F.B3576F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello. Does the Digitech JamMan have loop = quantization? And if I were to plug a mic into the XLR input of the pedal and wanted to do = a vocal loop, what kind of cord do I need to put in the output of the = pedal and into the mic input of the PA system?

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CA139F.B3576F20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 2 23:43:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C760B3BEFF; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f1a+SdZ/qv3fp29/qzyFYAkW3py/vT5oQKRtir0T9As=; b=uaU5qKOy+e/Sq0lKyMRO9PDlBZKRDm+lrgQ+yYceaYtmhly1HRaKtZZOXz9OkEmWUO JSN2ppUJGjIV6u41pOeVnS8jyKi9UBmZ9M4udVf7mAyKzjTgZBMWqeHKBY7vxbBglcuM yMtxPG2+MkL5uItQB+tEJUns5zFHJAcbqy3ws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fmYQ1xpffEA+Y2IpV62ZtYMm24WmNNEY+XrPTOKtpY+9tmPt064xwh6Am7mD6neRb2 TFnUyEG33/3L93/0L3VVvH7i7b21wRJ/piR1wYcKTZpi51JFVVEV8hvcoSPocGk7bf3V XHlSByTfxLikuJ1hPn5uAeXAiLOFLk2ZUgIdI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <436E256CC4DC4EEA9B36D0B50A8B4390@williamsteed> References: <436E256CC4DC4EEA9B36D0B50A8B4390@williamsteed> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:43:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Mark Sottilaro To: billwalker@baymoon.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:43:18 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:22 AM, William Walker wrot= e: > > " > Oh I've always been plenty cranky. =A0I'm gearing up to be a ranty old ma= n!" > > If you live that long. > Is that a threat you fucking dirtbag? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 00:02:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D3BB3BF07; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A76291A.8050907@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:02:34 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> <4A756643.7000002@googlemail.com> <4A759E41.6080309@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <33gW1C.A.E3H.gkidKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Well, living this way is not for everyone. But I do hope that everybody finds peace w/the work they do for money, whether it be justifying it by the things it allows them to do, or by finding the work itself to be rewarding. I do, by the way, feel good about the work that I do get paid for. My touring does, in fact, get close to supporting itself (comes closer each tour). That's beside the point; I'm happy to do this and have another job which actually supports me. The point is to play live music in front of actual breathing people as much as possible, and to combine that with the ability to see new places and to meet up with new people each night makes it fully worthwhile. It's simply what I want to do; the pros and cons of this model of "distribution" don't interest me. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hitchhiking only works if someone's got it together to buy a car. > Couchsurfing only works if someone has spent their money on a couch > (and a place to keep it in) > > I'd love to live in a magic fairy land universe where everyone just > did the work they felt was "important." I bet that land smells like a > pile of garbage... I bet that land would be a pile of garbage. Who > wants to do that job? Would the building I sheet rocked exist in that > land, because let me tell you I did not feel important doing that job. > It did, however, give me the ability to buy my own couch, car and > rent a place to keep them in. > > While traveling in Japan last September it struck us that the idea of > "menial labor" didn't really exist there like it does in the west. It > seemed like everyone was proud of their job and worked hard at it > whether is was fast food worker or hotel manager. It made me feel > ashamed of our culture where your self esteem seems linked to the > "quality" of job you have and not the quality of work you do. > > Here's a question I have. If your tour can't even support itself in > terms of travel... why? Wouldn't you be better off finding local gigs > and distributing your music all over the world via the internet? Just > wondering... > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> I've done a number of long hitchhiking trips, and they were some of my most >> formative experiences. I think it helped lead me to my current mode of >> traveling/touring, and even to the kind of work I can handle doing for >> money. I need to have control over my time. I feel very lucky to have ended >> up in computers, which has enabled me to have complete flexibility, working >> by the hour from anywhere. (The getting-paid-by-the-hour component is >> important - the concept of salary never sat right w/me). >> >> I wasn't necessarily going to share this here, but after some shakeup in my >> personal life it has turned out that I'm not going to be based in Mexico >> anymore. For the time being I don't have a fixed address, I'm just bouncing >> between friends and family in the eastern half of the US while preparing for >> my next tour. I don't feel the need to have a solid home base, and with >> wanting to tour most of the time, it wouldn't be much of a home base anyway. >> But my communities are VITAL to me, whether it's old friends or groups like >> LD where there's common ground from which new friendships develop. That's >> where my solidity is. >> >> Funny, just last night a friend told me that there's a growing movement of >> people doing something like what I'm doing, and then Stefan mentioned the >> couchsurfing groups (which I'm definitely going to follow up on). Inspiring. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 00:19:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E33963BF05; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Per Boysen'" , References: <66f9cc1e0908021440x5af43f7pe2a6730dc036e8be@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: looping hurdy gurdy Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:19:29 -0700 Message-ID: <4B9EB48112A3499BB78A94215D9E7E19@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcoTyeOt4dkc77i5SyWlHrM5jZ5m0AAABo1Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908021440x5af43f7pe2a6730dc036e8be@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Yes he was amazing as was his Australian percussionist with his = aboriginal singing stones, I think that=92s what he called them. That clip that = Rick posted made me think of a cross between and erhu and a hurdy gurdy, and brought back memories of the Zurich performance as well. I love it when musicians take really old instruments and do something fresh and = adventurous with them as Loibner and his partner did. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:40 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping hurdy gurdy On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU Great clip! Mattihas Loibner did a great set at the looping festival in Z=FCrich 2005. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 00:54:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B9423BF0C; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wMh6FtO3szBPaYAyU0e0nmOSYQzodPeSgeJsIZTzrTg=; b=haeLFdkxnZFCFRQZwSOsJC4oEI9G38Z676XGpZiK0nPyQv/oMEbLvccSJyOVK6sjoX 5f1Nb7RPkp2TTs3mAA6viJfmdAfxpnkQI8ll6p1NzVyyp04AkYMZSAFppbFximJFUONW bbSZNWIlSohRgUcG9h11V8ls5J3kwPcqovDwA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RodbA7gRebt3AaGWiGx4OM9iUEhU94hDDCa3l7jZLHVPxslZ4+Ece1eW4fUY9DeeUm wH1kCiV50ayvBpvleQtNwiTkIA9p4dk48wBb6ThaSoh349x0lCdfDTm+aDlPP9beOIHt 2tydsPOmO1u7iOgkzjTAWlqz8eY4tWratJZ/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A76291A.8050907@mhorse.com> References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> <4A756643.7000002@googlemail.com> <4A759E41.6080309@mhorse.com> <4A76291A.8050907@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:54:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:54:43 +0000 (UTC) The sad thing is the fact that live music isn't something that's valued as much as it should be in our culture. I can never quite figure out how someone like Madonna can rake in millions yet great small acts seem to beg for crumbs. It always made me laugh when we could fill a small club when we paid for free on a monday night when it was normally empty, but if we charged $3 to get in people would go to the bar across the street. I'd have been happy to play for free, but the club owner decided to charge us to use the PA even though we had our own. That's right, I'm talking to you, The Nines in Ithaca, NY. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Well, living this way is not for everyone. But I do hope that everybody > finds peace w/the work they do for money, whether it be justifying it by = the > things it allows them to do, or by finding the work itself to be rewardin= g. > I do, by the way, feel good about the work that I do get paid for. > > My touring does, in fact, get close to supporting itself (comes closer ea= ch > tour). That's beside the point; I'm happy to do this and have another job > which actually supports me. The point is to play live music in front of > actual breathing people as much as possible, and to combine that with the > ability to see new places and to meet up with new people each night makes= it > fully worthwhile. It's simply what I want to do; the pros and cons of thi= s > model of "distribution" don't interest me. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> Hitchhiking only works if someone's got it together to buy a car. >> Couchsurfing only works if someone has spent their money on a couch >> (and a place to keep it in) >> >> I'd love to live in a magic fairy land universe where everyone just >> did the work they felt was "important." =A0I bet that land smells like a >> pile of garbage... I bet that land would be a pile of garbage. =A0 Who >> wants to do that job? =A0Would the building I sheet rocked exist in that >> land, because let me tell you I did not feel important doing that job. >> =A0It did, however, give me the ability to buy my own couch, car and >> rent a place to keep them in. >> >> While traveling in Japan last September it struck us that the idea of >> "menial labor" didn't really exist there like it does in the west. =A0It >> seemed like everyone was proud of their job and worked hard at it >> whether is was fast food worker or hotel manager. It made me feel >> ashamed of our culture where your self esteem seems linked to the >> "quality" of job you have and not the quality of work you do. >> >> Here's a question I have. =A0If your tour can't even support itself in >> terms of travel... why? =A0Wouldn't you be better off finding local gigs >> and distributing your music all over the world via the internet? =A0Just >> wondering... >> >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >> >>> >>> I've done a number of long hitchhiking trips, and they were some of my >>> most >>> formative experiences. I think it helped lead me to my current mode of >>> traveling/touring, and even to the kind of work I can handle doing for >>> money. I need to have control over my time. I feel very lucky to have >>> ended >>> up in computers, which has enabled me to have complete flexibility, >>> working >>> by the hour from anywhere. (The getting-paid-by-the-hour component is >>> important - the concept of salary never sat right w/me). >>> >>> I wasn't necessarily going to share this here, but after some shakeup i= n >>> my >>> personal life it has turned out that I'm not going to be based in Mexic= o >>> anymore. For the time being I don't have a fixed address, I'm just >>> bouncing >>> between friends and family in the eastern half of the US while preparin= g >>> for >>> my next tour. I don't feel the need to have a solid home base, and with >>> wanting to tour most of the time, it wouldn't be much of a home base >>> anyway. >>> But my communities are VITAL to me, whether it's old friends or groups >>> like >>> LD where there's common ground from which new friendships develop. That= 's >>> where my solidity is. >>> >>> Funny, just last night a friend told me that there's a growing movement >>> of >>> people doing something like what I'm doing, and then Stefan mentioned t= he >>> couchsurfing groups (which I'm definitely going to follow up on). >>> Inspiring. >>> >>> Daryl Shawn >>> www.swanwelder.com >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 01:06:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D58F3BF04; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6vBWyKXip42XnAgIzRxsH0zQehCW2Ce974WgQj0HfBY=; b=b30plPparXrO5UkbUpBBEZYnvLSjA1+cfbPzsJHxwQaFu8gsLGTX+b/4abg7rXak+J 4x0JeXo8d95K0btOLTdWImYJPhQjZbDdz7VY3S4N8zpE4kVvDOMKCdjIsmNmYvKd87vG 6lv+ucEB1ULkUQWjsfw/gbeDg5/Cvs8IP76MA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hUYmfxGgwD8KeQOrfkhzDhaKo7yvR3JKfjaf16gef0cywXC4JPGfX6oqX/Acsl+HD0 0TvMZ8hQw18b4c5/6GVCPewmGbIrN43tyIljKN3KHfcMhFpYxQUyBkS8CLsOvhohp3Qs vQmmgQwAYWG62BmD1lPnV09o/xAFBwkdRdHQM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0908010541u58875787u855524693969a503@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A73DBEA.2050008@tiscali.co.uk> <548603.57576.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0908010541u58875787u855524693969a503@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:06:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: automation or triggering functions From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:06:05 +0000 (UTC) My control of the looper is all manual, but I use a lot of automation to control post loop effects. From unideai@dawson.nswebhost.com Mon Aug 3 03:51:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3197 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:51:54 UTC Received: from dawson.nswebhost.com (dawson.nswebhost.com [65.254.40.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B913BF07 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unideai by dawson.nswebhost.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MXnkl-0004mG-MT for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:58:23 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cancellazione X-PHP-Script: unidea.es/es_es/cancellazione/index.php for 66.249.71.132 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:58:23 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dawson.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32500 32501] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dawson.nswebhost.com Ti confermo che la cancellazione alla newsletter è stata effettuata From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 06:23:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1B3F3BF14; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=8ZtphMTo9hwyVLCn/YXgHw/xRvL/WHGL52Qn9iWR8Gw=; b=a89pYJYx3FGq6UkUChY/mhGCH0y0128k/5M3J8FC+KFP19ciUdSjRHvZKAbqMDMveO 9ZKoGj8fQJAp99+kdkJ2gpDdYl7llzdhlVDkhNHGJYptnpEfJ2vEIMO3p7eiw4kXK12o V5AlIgqlLLG3Ebe8amOlUdyRMuXYSD2WcUAf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=dsF9bL35KDW1UrU7ncB36ZXom30NWSPxQ1BGwuOeWPfi+uGUJLt4A2EHVw0ID4u9Mk fZHNXKnukOxS99N+4BJKUBttzLGOmTmPyaXkADiSeauF1hU8BGluvoEhnuHzChuASSuP ol1b9QSHqUDo54gFyhufyoI8HBOy/6AsIcf2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:23:53 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908022323o27a2733ahdb3c61f795e4fbb9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: re StompVox From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636988a0b5c7206047036d02d Resent-Message-ID: <-GyrKB.A.Ik.6JodKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:23:54 +0000 (UTC) --001636988a0b5c7206047036d02d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I worked with StompVox a bit more Sunday evening I began to see more clearly how it works delivering the exported loop. What I said earlier about the transfer process was a bit whack and probably didn't make much sense though it did to me at the time. In that the iTouch/or iPhone is a wireless device taking it's connection through the nearest wireless router, the iTouch/iPhone is the host device of your file. When you connect through your computer browser you're transferring the exported WAV file from the iTouch/iPhone memory over that current network. The assumption as I can tell is you will be able to access the network where the iTouch/iPhone is getting it's IP address. Like most things it takes me a while to connect the dots. That said here's one more piece from some oud and violin takes I did Sunday evening. http://www.box.net/shared/pnvshl2c3x Thx for listening. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636988a0b5c7206047036d02d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I worked with StompVox a bit= more Sunday evening I began to see more clearly how it works delivering th= e exported loop. =A0What I said earlier about the transfer process was a bi= t whack and probably didn't make much sense though it did to me at the = time. =A0In=A0that=A0the=A0iTouch/or=A0iPhone=A0is=A0a=A0wireless=A0device= =A0taking=A0it's=A0connection=A0through=A0the=A0nearest=A0wireless=A0ro= uter,=A0the=A0iTouch/iPhone=A0is=A0the=A0host=A0device of your file. =A0Whe= n=A0you=A0connect=A0through=A0your=A0computer=A0browser=A0you're=A0tran= sferring=A0the=A0exported=A0WAV=A0file=A0from=A0the=A0iTouch/iPhone=A0memor= y=A0over=A0that=A0current=A0network. =A0The assumption as I can tell is you= will be able to access the network where the iTouch/iPhone is getting it&#= 39;s IP address.

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Thx for listening.

--001636988a0b5c7206047036d02d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 07:46:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2454A3BF16; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:46:11 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <7E089D2B8F7C4AAA8E96FB0C4A16CA69@williamsteed> Message-ID: <20090803074611.109660@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5546C3EC25054B4CB13A0A109E117E2D@williamsteed> <20090731163725.285330@gmx.net> <7E089D2B8F7C4AAA8E96FB0C4A16CA69@williamsteed> Subject: Re: OT attention effects pedal freeks and would be effects designers. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18O8x9fvj4OA3E8/1WxmeuQ7s0wWLuFy4HntyGqdG BwF1tMzivkZnUEVj3YB0AmexJo8cBLW+/cCQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 9K1Ae+QZYmYBep8snnY3L/xCWkZTQRTx X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill > Read further, I believe it is stereo because the line 6 tone core docks > are capable of both mono and stereo. > OMG, this is great... > This link may be easier to open: http://line6.com/tcddk/ That's really sweet... :-)) Yeah, too bad it doesn't support Mac - but then again, we can always complain, I guess... ;-) Feeling like building a looper, anyone? thanks buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 08:00:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BB1D3BF17; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:00:04 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908021434n6e9cd890u99900cf4fb8660bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090803080004.112050@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090802171559.133000@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0908021434n6e9cd890u99900cf4fb8660bb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Does Mainstage + Ableton make sense? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18xVGxDs0cxHLnh1890SBmeJQLXvx9E9tp/9soI+2 lO6hSp6NGzwIpTYBNt2oUCJ8JB/06icsoPug== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: YPATC6tffW47SZNBjGRoK7VudmllcgXB X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi Warren, Per thanks for your responses. Warren, that's quite some setup. ;-) If your's works on MacBook, mine should work, too. Per, I don't have a masterplan was just playing around with both Mainstage and Live8, so had this idea. The main reason is that the way Ableton handles effects is not necessarily how I build my loops (Changes in effects affect(effect?) the whole track and not only one loop in a scene). For connection, I guess before Rewire is supported connecting via cable is the only feasible way, I guess. best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 08:13:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EEA63BF19; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/JMseABJGCV63r3qJDfwCmNKtJgewio+FmAQdBvENIc=; b=XchhbyvPtjXaCvy05adcA8kPOTKqJAoWtOXzmvuteFzSDIoOz/1wi6E89bHjyAT6Kt +lj0OPwfiQrfRUhmItf0jCoXXURFRfeGvEBsJQzX6f4hfXeek86s0HlGvNoQzxmQ2fpi G/Z/E3TMia7YL3tJnXNebJB113bzAsFqcTDe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vQUWUjOhoVtMdSQSATAPB9LFD1CYmDZH/9LBHCageSFXIkL7yNWZtN4D/IVX8lKsW3 zAlboR5lgtwjGrujZaQyOI2ymIJjmEjcB+jrAuKSvSmR2LJWbzGw/Ot88N3/+PTuqtWp z13eI7AD4oVUEwTfHlRRI18jUDbZYrp9eWWWA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090803080004.112050@gmx.net> References: <20090802171559.133000@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0908021434n6e9cd890u99900cf4fb8660bb@mail.gmail.com> <20090803080004.112050@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:13:17 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908030113y1122a9f3w16c9dea23c048fba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Does Mainstage + Ableton make sense? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:13:18 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I don't have a masterplan was just playing around with both Mainstage and Live8, so had this idea. > The main reason is that the way Ableton handles effects is not necessarily how I build my loops (Changes in effects affect(effect?) the whole track and not only one loop in a scene). > For connection, I guess before Rewire is supported connecting via cable is the only feasible way, I guess. ReWire is supported by both Live 8 and Mainstage 2. Not by Mainstage 1 though. Mainstage 2 works as the ReWire Slave only, not as the Master, while Live can take on both of those roles. You typically start the ReWire Master application first and then the other application will automatically start in ReWire Slave Mode. Because of this I think you will have to run them in ReWire mode if using them on the same computer. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 08:21:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A20783BF19; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at webline.be Message-ID: <20090803102140.136852x2dbrxpq80@ws120.webline.be> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:21:40 +0200 From: "dirk serries" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: seeking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:21:46 +0000 (UTC) hi fellow loopers, My intention is to head for the US in September 2010. Following my European tour I hope to set up a nice tour at the East Coast. I'm therefor looking for concerts at small clubs, artgalleries, radioshows and other small intimate venues. If you have suggestions, offers or just ideas, don't hesitate to contact me offlist at mymicrophonics@gmail.com Thank you and sorry for the space consumption here... www.microphonics.be www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 10:00:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E7333BF1C; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bcd69ec8-9808-4db8-8e9a-296e52c075e0_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: looping hurdy gurdy Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:00:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908021440x5af43f7pe2a6730dc036e8be@mail.gmail.com> References: <154647.99080.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908021440x5af43f7pe2a6730dc036e8be@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2009 10:00:19.0720 (UTC) FILETIME=[357AD880:01CA1421] Resent-Message-ID: <4eeeuD.A.VpE.zUrdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:00:19 +0000 (UTC) --_bcd69ec8-9808-4db8-8e9a-296e52c075e0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting. What a tasty player! I did a gig with him about 15 years ago.= I was looping - he wasn't. He was very interested in how and what I was do= ing. Maybe that kicked it off... G > Date: Sun=2C 2 Aug 2009 23:40:20 +0200 > Subject: Re: looping hurdy gurdy > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Sun=2C Aug 2=2C 2009 at 10:36 PM=2C Gareth > Whittock wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU >=20 >=20 > Great clip! Mattihas Loibner did a great set at the looping festival > in Z=FCrich 2005. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years=97enjoy free winks and em= oticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_bcd69ec8-9808-4db8-8e9a-296e52c075e0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting. =3B What a tasty player! I did a gig with him about 15 yea= rs ago. I was looping - he wasn't. He was very interested in how and what I= was doing. Maybe that kicked it off...

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>=3B Date: Su= n=2C 2 Aug 2009 23:40:20 +0200
>=3B Subject: Re: looping hurdy gurdy>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
>=3B
>=3B On Sun=2C Aug 2=2C 2009 at 10:36 PM=2C Garet= h
>=3B Whittock<=3Bbuddhamachine@live.co.uk>=3B wrote:
>=3B &= gt=3B http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Great clip! Mattihas Loibner did a great set at the looping festiva= l
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>=3B Greetings from Sweden>=3B
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Internet Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotm= ail. Download Internet Explorer 8 = --_bcd69ec8-9808-4db8-8e9a-296e52c075e0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 11:12:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F3753BF1B; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8e14b759-f37e-440d-b3ce-576518469974_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: automation or triggering functions Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:12:26 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <4A73DBEA.2050008@tiscali.co.uk> <548603.57576.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0908010541u58875787u855524693969a503@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2009 11:12:26.0404 (UTC) FILETIME=[48626E40:01CA142B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:12:26 +0000 (UTC) --_8e14b759-f37e-440d-b3ce-576518469974_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using a lot of automation too. I'm hapy to spin in some grooves/chants = etc as well as make my own live. I'm not really an advocate of the "everyth= ng must be live" philosophy. I'm aware of the danger of too much shoegazing= and wish to avoid it. Having an automated "spine" to work with takes the b= utton pressing out of the performance. Though I like to have executive cont= rol over what kicks in where. The bottom line is "What does it sound like?"= not "how clever is it" for me. This where a laptop comes in handy. You can= pre arrange all sorts of parameter changing that would get in the way of t= he actual instrument playing. Sorry about all the """'s btw Peace G > Date: Sun=2C 2 Aug 2009 18:06:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: automation or triggering functions > From: zerocrossing@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > My control of the looper is all manual=2C but I use a lot of automation > to control post loop effects. >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years=97enjoy free winks and em= oticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_8e14b759-f37e-440d-b3ce-576518469974_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using a lot of automation too. I'm hapy to spin in some grooves/chants = etc as well as make my own live. I'm not really an advocate of the "everyth= ng must be live" philosophy. I'm aware of the danger of too much shoegazing= and wish to avoid it. Having an automated "spine" to work with takes the b= utton pressing out of the performance. Though I like to have executive cont= rol over what kicks in where. The bottom line is "What does it sound like?"= not "how clever is it" for me. This where a laptop comes in handy. You can= pre arrange all sorts of parameter changing that would get in the way of t= he actual instrument playing.

Sorry about all the """'s btw

P= eace

G

>=3B Date: Sun=2C 2 Aug 2009 18:06:04 -0700
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>=3B From: zerocro= ssing@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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>=3B My control of the looper is all manual=2C but I use a lot of au= tomation
>=3B to control post loop effects.
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Download Internet Explore= r 8 = --_8e14b759-f37e-440d-b3ce-576518469974_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 12:07:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1D833BF1D; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MJeuzl/RGBAa6y9w+Q+kCDKCGRcdSSwVMfMik8/T75g=; b=BjRdAInu/8sEb+ASmaUIXHswVn8lnb+Szw5YxaRTb78Y1+HhjlXZGPkOmUV5EP/6yN bt81eef1ZQ5iRb2xsSNLRRNbezFfqyp7n8cLSC2IaxejRq+Yjvw+d1TgBvo+4nMJ8vSX JZhngnZeAZ0mJX3tOmn8LotplRhRQ8aSTwg2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vuD5bTkRhhaVwrfj1oXow/RvvwfJAIzcr2Pc1+E8c8r2u3STy/0Tn146j3Wji27WNW n44TAi5FydJykbw8J7wf0GBWHIOXOWASGBBHqymE04YnQnem7ZXRFNhGRpyw1uTr1/+/ XdqSpuQsSrI3an6VFoB79ckMt61Ga9ewCzU5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:07:41 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a6e4e98442004896 Message-ID: <101191640908030507i5bee0247y9b4a96a6bbf54f27@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Semi-OT: playlist.com - embeddable mp3 jukebox + From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4hwOF.A.aAH.NMtdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:07:41 +0000 (UTC) In my hunt for a decent, unbranded jukebox for my home page and my lack of time for pondering the javascript/flash customizations necessary to run some of the common players, I came across playlist.com, which offers just what I needed - plus various social networking features, etc. I use this to create playlists of files which I host myself; not sure how friendly/cheap/usable it is if you upload directly. Of course, it bothers me a little to have a 3rd-party dependency, but I figure you have to revamp your web page every so often anyway, so while this works smoothly and is free, I'll use it. After that, I'll do something else. And I'm just writing this (of course) to get you to go over to http://www.warrensirota.com and leave the player on in the background for a half hour or so while you do your thing. :-) Nothing brand-new there, but a nice collection of some of my favorites. -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 12:49:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBBDA3BF21; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gr7yrA8acNfplfx2jrOMd5QwEvH/Gss48VLJo3sJ2GQ=; b=Hz8y7pgTs5ZnfT+Khlydd/yhYuCyTFAfgRvGx2SIFqxaaa3zaebfTAApeNcVy1TrjQ CCXGlB/Ss52mSW/gKtnVOHPbZiPTMOuogEXUbcdP7xZGuKnsJl+fIujq3unaE1jQdcPH ttsd/c32AQsGAc2KhBG+1J6V9vnMfCDb4lkdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=VqjXvs5JS5xLWN0IUY8dIuL5SbXBy+AbCAFxUkbAMlGAqaRB7q29H6E2kzTSxvbhUU 68gCbgtAgbE1ipYWGNvpLiKeyaaCH/wKDs0kyuKwqY/GNKc6aBnQ+Pj7UmWG/VWnQvkI x4K9S35AndGRPBjIDH6ZsB2COx2G2hbKTbzKo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640908030507i5bee0247y9b4a96a6bbf54f27@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640908030507i5bee0247y9b4a96a6bbf54f27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:49:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Semi-OT: playlist.com - embeddable mp3 jukebox + From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9a23b7829d104703c3498 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:49:48 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d9a23b7829d104703c3498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well i had a look and both players showed this message - "due to licensing restrictions, some or all tracks may be unavailable for playback in your country" - and i couldn't play anything! i'm in the UK, btw... sim On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > > And I'm just writing this (of course) to get you to go over to > http://www.warrensirota.com and leave the player on in the background > for a half hour or so while you do your thing. :-) Nothing brand-new > there, but a nice collection of some of my favorites. > > --0016e6d9a23b7829d104703c3498 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well i had a look and both players showed this message - "due to licensing restrictions, some or al= l tracks may be unavailable for playback in your country" - and i coul= dn't play anything! i'm in the UK, btw...

sim

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, W= arren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:

And I'm just writing this (of course) to get you to go over to
http://www.warren= sirota.com and leave the player on in the background
for a half hour or so while you do your thing. :-) Nothing brand-new
there, but a nice collection of some of my favorites.


--0016e6d9a23b7829d104703c3498-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 13:16:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29EC23BF23; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nU2s5c5oyr8oHr03BzsjU5MSOxUI6qqjhtQoOYzVUsg=; b=q1tS4w4ApVy7z1gF2NVDgrsguruC67C06Or/u/LevhAf32vO1tPPAP6exaUDmT69P1 Gcayy/hWiw8RmyTv1TL8MSyB3D0k/DfJ9QgSZQz9xuiKCS5U9+9B5KwXiBaP5ThsTiOj 2Je+/tr76uQbCduHVL6Vb1SeUJ8gQNskgFmh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OQbt6iuoxKgN+Vy3dOxGdg5VCaHOknPN3rHAuhUwv04WtOSJYO5v0JH0/ZtzYdBIEb cOcisHv5asXFSK9ZZb+6wY9rQZzDYb9s6fYCVoXmieyc+Aw5m3tWnf88i/0Gnkk7lSrR 6HtdZynnZnHR5NLonF0d6ipLS9rYaaFt/4C9k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640908030507i5bee0247y9b4a96a6bbf54f27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:08:58 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e30418ae01887d2 Message-ID: <101191640908030608n1b4a2dadv78b9fe08a4e8ba36@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Semi-OT: playlist.com - embeddable mp3 jukebox + From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:16:46 +0000 (UTC) ouch!!! i'll have to get in touch with them and see what the story is On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > well i had a look and both players showed this message - "due to licensing > restrictions, some or all tracks may be unavailable for playback in your > country" - and i couldn't play anything! i'm in the UK, btw... > > sim > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: >> >> And I'm just writing this (of course) to get you to go over to >> http://www.warrensirota.com and leave the player on in the background >> for a half hour or so while you do your thing. :-) Nothing brand-new >> there, but a nice collection of some of my favorites. >> > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 13:50:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96D53BF25; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1251 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:50:31 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=J/EKAl1Qk7gc8AnIy0k/o4AoWX1iX/zOF1K6zZgLr1M=; b=MQNYu7DLbx3JNGnHUm+QvmUzC67bUPKDh05afJdMQr6gkVmmHJXdN0SAiWROTeB9Gm yn4780JbnD8TRA1l8LFNZkBbzeHEQbhTusbHO9MUlsoPcA9znDvjtOqP7mZ8l9R5PAVX 4Z/rISNWO0wgBd3tdRAGcJFFza2tYbbH6sd2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=QoF6H5hlZkBMBjkQNqo/XBmrLKZ52/QsWxpm1nOD+KwY459gFaXML0gUSFjHzKVKsG oh3kQvOcfCOIyODmuayR2WmJDd5AmKOLLnlL6m5B9zu+i1Gdedp5PCwv0A114VAG5BrM vLdjfBaagl2be3UOgoH6CKV+//JlN19puDeOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Andy Roberts Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:21:15 -0400 Message-ID: <7d2794000908030621y6db1f35frcb9572a1fbaac41a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Does Mainstage + Ableton make sense? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4d9004221fc04703ca6b9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:50:32 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4d9004221fc04703ca6b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In fact, I use Mainstage + Ableton6 + SooperLooper + Max (to record > the whole mess 6 channels in realtime) in a similar way. of course, > i'm not using the ableton looper, Live 8's Looper really agitates the hell out of me, so I am thinking about SooperLooper - you are pretty happy with it, then? What are you using Ableton Live for - triggering pre-recorded clips? I was thinking about using my AdrenaLinn III to process guitar into Live (no modelling software yet, but I'll take suggestions!), so I'll try SooperLooper and see what I can make of it! Thanks! drew --000e0cd4d9004221fc04703ca6b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> In fact, I use Mainstage + Ableton6 + SooperLooper + Max (to reco= rd
> the whole mess 6 channels in realtime) in a similar way. = of course,
> i'm not using the ableton looper,

Live 8's Looper really agitates the hell out of me, so I= am thinking about SooperLooper - you are pretty happy with it, then?
=

What are you using Ableton Live for - triggering pre-re= corded clips?=A0

I was thinking about using my AdrenaLinn III to process= guitar into Live (no modelling software yet, but I'll take suggestions= !), so I'll try SooperLooper and see what I can make of it!

Thanks!
drew=A0
--000e0cd4d9004221fc04703ca6b9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 14:25:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8857B3BF24; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:25:03 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249309103; bh=jXs3EMtc4gJM9or1Shge7a1Qr4iIoCe4dYohdRX/4g4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mZL9OSpJ+9o/ua8IgxnmNHjtlZ1HmSxesSlMwxqX4w/EJ8m2F5TkrvI0mE0aCvHuCum+z2OS2Mtdzn6cPSRE5zw8hhcM+C+kc0N2Sm9w5Csl3EorufWX5btNqLI5WowW8JmX343n9/iCzfrDpPwqHnkg5hMF8+63Kft4OqPUgSo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rHnZrTZDK/bWgnEqhZWWWENEOggkOrmm1Xx91fMFOp5mZVlPFomCFvaqb0Ygftrp1GINbR0L9DufB4KNBtpMK6RCMIQtE9O1t6L0RVKL2CHxdHmaGasZTPztMsdZlZhICnCkJykzIsytu4W/NmAKbtH8SHHNqIZ3ofOGdrnrmgk=; Message-ID: <262578.46646.qm@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: shADtlsVM1ko6HtRBXNgba5W54Jzp_g86uqmMWbfWhkjouRzPiUpHEb4DapeDj4fYqISP0zW9g1KPzy0B1a8u.eB0CDbQdmdUYoThQ1o0o_ZC5dvAr6bD9hROmW0kw3N5hazV9uzN.pfKJtUhjDEHaYq.SOdTFii6rqViDgD0m2klC4mZSEw8l13iongzJ_EcOr8WASxGJgCpmF26BkqQRptcQ33c4_uGwwH0dYVjV3KZVszd_iHozDY7FQE5w.lES6IcW_9eyCYYRpKBuBhrviFydyc_dlA6Ony9EW8Tk1E_lWQwsXKjogrYZWwfs16v0moQLtY_w3he4RnowOMFdvAClliGnVFSfToAe5nXvFS X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:18:22 -0700 (PDT) From: AKIM TRIEBSCH Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <663136.73933.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:25:04 +0000 (UTC) You people were funny at first but now your guffaws of snobbery and elitist= technocratic behaviour are really starting to take their toll...I mean wha= t are "we" about here....does it have anything to do with making music? I = am starting to wonder...I guess it has become unfashionable among the "Tech= nocrati" to loop with a BOSS pedal...hmmmmm=0A=0Alooping is just a means to= an end!...or is it just a means to an end in itself?..if that is the case = then you can just go on and loop yourselves into a frenzy until you become = dizzy with your own self indulgent misery...I mean really!...This loop comp= etition is a good thing...why not? Take it or leave it....so what if BOSS = is sponsoring it?....they make very inexpensive loopers, so why shouldn't t= hey have a boss loop competition festival? IF you want to be such a rebel = then bring your looperlative or your echoplex to the competition....that is= if they even decide to invite you.=0A=0AAs far as I can tell there isn't t= oo much of a general difference between most loopers....except for this qua= si-mystical time stretching function that some of the more expensive ones h= ave...and some finer details that may or may not make a difference dependin= g on your set-up...=0A=0ANot everyone can afford these more expensive "bett= er" models. Hell, yes I wish I could buy myself a LOOPERLATIVE right now..= ..but I can't, so I'll have to stick with my dinky little RC-50 toy until t= hen...=0A=0AThe BOSS pedals are great pedals for players at all levels....= =0A=0AAlso, if you don't like the drum loops on the Boss pedal, you can act= ually replace them with your own sounds etc...=0A=0ASo in summary...I would= appreciate if people were not so quick to jump on the slander bandwagon an= d start spreading more love and less of this cynical technocratic talk plea= se...music is supposed to move people and that can be done with the tapping= of a stick on wood....and does not require the higher echelons of technolo= gy to do it....=0A=0Acheck your head.=0A=0A;-)=0AAkim=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- On = Sun, 8/2/09, L.Angulo wrote:=0A=0A> From: L.Angulo =0A> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany=0A> To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 2:44= AM=0A> =0A> this is hilarious!;-)))=0A> i bet soon this is is going to be = on TV like the famous =0A> "Deutschland sucht den superstar" =0A> (translat= ion- Germany looks for the superstar)=0A> somehow Boss loopers have offcial= ly become "the corporate=0A> loopers"=0A> the come with those Huey Lewis an= d the news integrated drum=0A> patterns;-)=0A> =0A> =0A> www.myspace.com/lu= isangulocom=0A> =0A> =0A> --- Teddy Kumpel =0A> schrieb a= m Fr, 31.7.2009:=0A> =0A> > Von: Teddy Kumpel =0A> > Betr= eff: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany=0A> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com=0A> > Datum: Freitag, 31. Juli 2009, 3:48=0A> > ahhhh yes, loopi= ng as an olympic=0A> > sport !!!!=0A> > awesome=0A> > =0A> > play by play b= y announcers talking quietly like at a=0A> > gymnastic event=0A> > =0A> > B= ORIS: "yes, here's ****... of Hannover, he's been=0A> looping=0A> > for 3 y= ears now and comes from a beat box, singing=0A> and=0A> > classical ukelele= background.=0A> > oooooh, he started off strong with a nice reggae=0A> bea= t,=0A> > after tapping in the tempo himself... a lot of the=0A> younger=0A>= > looper are using tap tempo I noticed Jim, whereas the=0A> older=0A> > lo= opers are used to setting it manually in a=0A> menu...."=0A> > =0A> > JIM: = "yes, I've noticed that too... something about=0A> the new=0A> > equipment,= oh, he's added a fine ukelele skank part=0A> with=0A> > phase shifter, a l= ittle lagging time offset in the hip=0A> hop=0A> > tradition, the judges ar= e going to like that.... ah=0A> yes, you=0A> > see Ricoloop grinning..."=0A= > > =0A> > BORIS: "yes, Ricoloop, the undisputed champion of=0A> looping=0A= > > here in Germany, one of our judges today....=0A> oooooooooooh,=0A> > he= 's added a nasal bass and a counter melody on=0A> distorted=0A> > ukelele s= imultaneously, that's gotta count for extra=0A> points=0A> > with the judge= s"=0A> > JIM: "yes, in the rules of olympic looping the more=0A> > elements= you add in one pass the more points you get,=0A> > especially if you make = it so you can turn them off=0A> later=0A> > individually..."=0A> > =0A> > (= 10 minutes later)=0A> > =0A> > BORIS: "he seems to be going for the big end= build up=0A> now=0A> > with the later multiple vocals.... ouch, he hit one= =0A> bad note=0A> > there... or is he intending to go for aeolian mode=0A> = over the=0A> > dominant chord structure he's set up... let's see how=0A> he= =0A> > gets out of it"=0A> > JIM: "ya, the judges don't really care about h= armony=0A> here,=0A> > they're more concerned with the smoothness, executio= n=0A> and=0A> > difficulty level... but it look as if he's saved it=0A> BOR= IS"=0A> > BORIS: "oh yes, he, slipped the major third back in...=0A> what= =0A> > finesse... I think that should count for extra=0A> foresight=0A> > p= oints... and he's playing a little riff..AND AND=0A> AND....=0A> > wow... g= reat ending, with a nice reverb blast final=0A> chord...=0A> > a good showi= ng by *** of Hannover... let's see what=0A> the=0A> > judges have to say"= =0A> > =0A> > etc.....=0A> > =0A> > Teddy=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > On Jul 31, 20= 09, at 3:26 AM, Michael Peters wrote:=0A> > =0A> > > http://www.looperconte= st.bossmusik.de/=0A> > > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A> =A0 =A0= =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 15:03:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5ADBB3BF2D; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wXxECCU1iz/04XCeTvfj7NQFoRfa/ynXzbf68tZ+BDM=; b=MU6m0J5wvK4JItv1Z44RPqLT8b2jMm9DvD0FFnt9Sbba+ZHKdcmOJD7GuzxIuf2CTo GXf/Xax9W8AMLovjl22LH8Q7XEvwRcEVVI16NTLr09FTY7/1hpg3lRja1wBTqrwxpR6I T/8E31Su2RQogZiVXOPSbrh7mQxIEXY5xTjO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QdJVqsQz4yrPttW9wEvcLQ/PsliqHA2PAlHhNvoaoH8mZe6P5+SBOahIFNVHHaMvFQ 25vKr0ocmZyHstdiqP/Q1A6MW108+Y/fgBkga/scaGpiU+hA7jJTYO940MAYdvJabr4V rDUBjH/gVC0tkIAovCGSZxa0IZEXJJ6nMWtqw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <262578.46646.qm@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <663136.73933.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <262578.46646.qm@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:03:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:03:43 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:18 AM, AKIM TRIEBSCH wrote: > > You people were funny at first but now your guffaws of snobbery and eliti= st technocratic >behaviour are really starting to take their toll...I mean = what are "we" about here....does it have >anything to do with making music?= =A0I am starting to wonder...I guess it has become >unfashionable among th= e "Technocrati" to loop with a BOSS pedal...hmmmmm One thing I've found that no matter what list you subscribe to, or forum you frequent, people form camps around what gear/software they use. I find it silly. Loopers-Delight was started by Oberheim Echoplex users and was really heavily biased toward it back in the day. I think people will belittle other people's tools because it's a way of justifying their own choices and the coorasponding investment. If you're making better music with your $500 Boss pedal (is that cheap? I don't think so...) than they are with their $1500 Looperlative, you can imagine someone might feel threatened or silly for their choice and try to slight yours. Hell, one of the more memorable looping performances I've seen was Matt Divingon (sp?) and two cheap delay stomp boxes. > > looping is just a means to an end!...or is it just a means to an end in i= tself?.. What, are you hanging out with Robert Fripp? ;) >if that is the case then you can just go on and loop yourselves into a fre= nzy until you become >dizzy with your own self indulgent misery...I mean re= ally!...This loop competition is a good >thing...why not? =A0Take it or lea= ve it....so what if BOSS is sponsoring it?....they make very >inexpensive l= oopers, so why shouldn't they have a boss loop competition festival? =A0IF = you want >to be such a rebel then bring your looperlative or your echoplex = to the competition....that is if >they even decide to invite you. Of course it's a good thing. A great thing really. BOSS actually has the resources to really promote loop based music, as opposed to small looper sponsored loopfests that are nothing more than looper get-togethers. Many here will talk until they're blue in the face about promoting "live looping" but I suspect that most are really more happy to be in a small club with their "secret" weapon. God forbid live looping really became mainstream and we started seeing the Jonas Brothers using it. > > As far as I can tell there isn't too much of a general difference between= most loopers....except >for this quasi-mystical time stretching function t= hat some of the more expensive ones >have...and some finer details that may= or may not make a difference depending on your set->up... There are quite a few differences, but the basics are mostly the same. Some couldn't do without their Line6 DL-4, others sleep with an EDP under their pillow. Both can be equally useful depending on what their owners need from them. I replaced a $1500 with a free piece of software (Mobius) but many will tell you that software looping is "less than." Whatever. > Not everyone can afford these more expensive "better" models. =A0Hell, ye= s I wish I could buy >myself a LOOPERLATIVE right now....but I can't, so I'= ll have to stick with my dinky little RC->50 toy until then... ...or can afford them and choose a tool that's more to their liking. You'll always have the fetishists who'll tell you that until you have "x" you're not serious. I constantly come across the analog synth druids who will talk until their blue in the face about how no software synth comes close to a true analog synth, and then proceed to not be able to pick an analog synth out from a blind test. > So in summary...I would appreciate if people were not so quick to jump on= the slander >bandwagon and start spreading more love and less of this cyni= cal technocratic talk >please...music is supposed to move people and that c= an be done with the tapping of a stick >on wood....and does not require the= higher echelons of technology to do it.... Good luck with that! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 15:23:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 545A93BF2F; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:23:01 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <262578.46646.qm@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090803152301.25050@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <262578.46646.qm@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/F1acKeCrFmUg4e/rdJsrywMCUrVVdMIbyJpYQbJ tOwduSZpnAgwb1HRwVBI0S0fvX8K2viZitlQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: s2QfB/JobHIhctsjwjU04B0iJihyapDD X-FuHaFi: 0.65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi Akim > am starting to wonder...I guess it has become unfashionable among the > "Technocrati" to loop with a BOSS pedal...hmmmmm I'm very happy looping with the "cheap" Boss RC-50 Loopstation myself. People on this forum can certainly attribute that I promote this tool at every opportunity. Further, discussions on the RC-50 are very welcome and actively supported by few people on this list. You're probably right that there is a bit of elitist arrogance hanging in the air. Oh well... ;-) The main objection - imho - could rather be in viewing looping as collaboration (i.e. looping festivals) versus as competition. Nevertheless, I'm sure almost anyone here appreciates any form of promotion & attention looping gets. And finally, I found Teddy's comments hilariously funny... - totally worth the joke imo :-)) best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 15:40:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 857673BF2D; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249314014; bh=ECaizxDs4o5NsUdku4KzGNe0R3jG8fpAm4Dn2puNlzQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0vWnOycApKFYQQADA7hdYz8KkCyLfd4ssBEUBR1VWlD6lEk6Pv2h/BWqyOsCGAsmB97vq25WGoHGoOYlRssAPxgfOVOdnX6sSjnjc8Ttuir4C0aJNLlgRa2E22JbuUbUIUp+5TK6mzYS1qllWc11PMIrXPCuW8bDJc7ROkX+698= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ji0yYYlJT9W1CgWgK81LyKRuOLwSNF01iPduZPZY8rrMdpYFuvsdg24EHS7pXaad4erlxBuTuUlJbGt7JR432ZLtE2a9sfrw0KUAVk0ofHUfJU6S5lFft02jVtVudnHgdICBP3uJ2IihFmDtTQyMnrmInYe/VFOviaiVi6H78cA=; Message-ID: <389907.6003.qm@web38106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BOMn050VM1mR2rw3l6CtXdcKI4_.XoVkNODhdYGjgTPst0ZXuS56ZQSnz1KyDxBLM1MR.h.SaEniBmLlU.7kSjOkVRgcEz50bUi0V9qgwHzDzqIs3XayirdZZjZZAwWhmCYxXszEctI5DLRgJ7c8LybT0f9eMjI6Cdt.imBKavIU3Y_sN5.PrMeb29dcL0X4C9k4pREPg55ol7qhkOL8ksBoPV.pReteiTsrYrHPpxrI41qk9NZC2lyEnbWknJlHz_OwHHVxqv7WH9nbsIlsymqWjvvHe_YkN5_Mr3gmuy0XozNFRKULyxIwe8b5Hqao1QSyssnybjtYCcKaadBKQ7O5JNuh9VJbnNE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: AKIM TRIEBSCH Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090803152301.25050@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:40:15 +0000 (UTC) The jokes are great! I love the play by play commentary....If you can't la= ugh at yourself who can you laugh at....=0A=0Aobviously these guys have bee= n there done that...=0A=0Abut I just had a little moment of enough is enoug= h...especially when the boss pedal is made to look redundant....=0A=0Athank= s,=0A=0AAkim=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Buzap Buzap = wrote:=0A=0A> From: Buzap Buzap =0A> Subject: Re: Boss loope= r contest in Germany=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: = Monday, August 3, 2009, 8:23 AM=0A> Hi Akim=0A> =0A> > am starting to wonde= r...I guess it has become=0A> unfashionable among the=0A> > "Technocrati" t= o loop with a BOSS pedal...hmmmmm=0A> =0A> I'm very happy looping with the = "cheap" Boss RC-50=0A> Loopstation myself. People on this forum can certain= ly=0A> attribute that I promote this tool at every opportunity.=0A> Further= , discussions on the RC-50 are very welcome and=0A> actively supported by f= ew people on this list.=0A> =0A> You're probably right that there is a bit = of elitist=0A> arrogance hanging in the air. Oh well... ;-)=0A> The main ob= jection - imho - could rather be in viewing=0A> looping as collaboration (i= .e. looping festivals) versus as=0A> competition.=0A> =0A> Nevertheless, I'= m sure almost anyone here appreciates any=0A> form of promotion & attention= looping gets.=0A> And finally, I found Teddy's comments hilariously funny.= ..=0A> - totally worth the joke imo :-))=0A> =0A> best regards=0A> Buzap=0A= > -- =0A> GRATIS f=FCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!=0A> Jet= zt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01=0A> =0A> =0A=0A= =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 16:24:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E19CC3BF32; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 11741 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:24:40 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oE+WGen9X1Hn3WMzCaYCr4E5j3udEpTM7KbYO4ESeeQ=; b=U+rA4NCUCCuSUxENrqovdpREJSd1c0VL5uPMdYNQihNdIR6j4D8hdV017wptYsHM/i 2YdIJ5AAuGr53WsVhyZfkyGYe6TnRpsPQLke1ANziD338fyYesaGFIQll1UfhhuGe0ho BKFoDffnJhMgXvtGAq7oJL0MtCK3nf5XaegoA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Qx0CiphyYF+sxaf6ofTZZDEth+SdZNcxpdgqoaX9oUFrAr/LexbNa2hrSGyRe8kuWL GLhK/yRqvcgcI9i67oLhTGtJ9RWJjtK9au750uoOAqOkqA6HBPQlP64AkwGgCYTcyIYX uHF+v8Ja6wgLmJCXnA10/KEB+8WBxUHzZRwxU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7d2794000908030621y6db1f35frcb9572a1fbaac41a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7d2794000908030621y6db1f35frcb9572a1fbaac41a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:24:39 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b452ced3b9a46bf1 Message-ID: <101191640908030924r7bce2884g7146779e956d5584@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Does Mainstage + Ableton make sense? From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:24:40 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Andy Roberts wrote: >> In fact, I use Mainstage + Ableton6 + SooperLooper + Max (to record >> the whole mess 6 channels in realtime) in a similar way. of course, >> i'm not using the ableton looper, > Live 8's Looper really agitates the hell out of me, so I am thinking about > SooperLooper - you are pretty happy with it, then? I think SL is great. Not only do I get all the capabilities I need, but it is controllable via osc, so if I want to someday build an ultra-compact UI for it in MAX, no problem > What are you using Ableton Live for - triggering pre-recorded clips? pre-recorded MIDI clips mainly, at present, going through a velocity variator to add a little variety. some audio clips too - mostly shakers I am now also using Live to process the output of SL in order to introduce more variety into the Loop. I could do that in MS, but MS is already working pretty hard, and the Live fx are easier to vary via MIDI Clips with controller info, which act as LFOs, basically, for this purpose. > I was thinking about using my AdrenaLinn III to process guitar into Live (no > modelling software yet, but I'll take suggestions!), so I'll try > SooperLooper and see what I can make of it! > Thanks! > drew -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 16:27:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CB253BF2F; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6sN6F+sSUxHHO9Z5YQ2OFy4ADGCmq4iJ0Bg8ucimsMA=; b=RXHILiORo5BFcfdMVuDaeXRsdLRW1/r4Dez5y9OU0uGj5jfj1E6rIiG11ZGgJGyQ9R fCEpgI042439hcNiwGX4TTx+L4NigTJwtQ44bzBQ05HES1S+La75XDm1ADKhYq7x4kCx 7T/IX02YyjRfhCLRJb2XZKBm5PrN1A4/ACLmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=YAQ4M5/ebRl6fagT+6C54cSRWRWx+mCmXKrn3xPHYcJAgbGmZYOY1Fjsuhoja2UK/p 7kXi5x/xjeQHfCM1qk9QDGhKrlWqhpxXg7xWuU9plgse/ROH2gLxT2qo5AEW1kIzLUh8 doQcQ7aBZ/fjWuMxuNs6vq+DU9GKgdBwYBfj0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640908030608n1b4a2dadv78b9fe08a4e8ba36@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640908030507i5bee0247y9b4a96a6bbf54f27@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908030608n1b4a2dadv78b9fe08a4e8ba36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:27:06 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ff3127eb22cb7c7 Message-ID: <101191640908030927pb0ea914mf8576e4bd49a52b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Semi-OT: playlist.com - embeddable mp3 jukebox + From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) bummer - i got kind of a non-answer from them, essentially, "yep, we know it's a problem. we're trying to get more permissions" On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > ouch!!! i'll have to get in touch with them and see what the story is > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Simeon > Harris wrote: >> well i had a look and both players showed this message - "due to licensing >> restrictions, some or all tracks may be unavailable for playback in your >> country" - and i couldn't play anything! i'm in the UK, btw... >> >> sim >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: >>> >>> And I'm just writing this (of course) to get you to go over to >>> http://www.warrensirota.com and leave the player on in the background >>> for a half hour or so while you do your thing. :-) Nothing brand-new >>> there, but a nice collection of some of my favorites. >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 16:32:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A92EC3BF36; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UsS+8u6ghS2zSXX3GQErIto1aFPiM0uza2RMdK0B9WU=; b=NCtJ5P8gwe2kpVZ3Vom6FxvEW8sBsC7YOekDvC7dsOaLeuUqUxoQ7kTe6f8y/bL/h3 fAzwK0V2KPWyVnVoIGWng3IsptvMobWkdwAkzhi2l5HDAg+p6U+gsjj0kjDQZslDLDlR tlPK6Ha9YfgyGFwQtiv74NOE4pMfK8zVUCIzE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=H77zHkn4A+465eC9qpW7mUAq++gY+YbhAnfILtcYY647b54/1DCiRcZHvot6ahpyLy J0f4NXFCavFr4/zne2rmy+tBaEZ9qlaGmLs2whVHji4vexAF82QUMXR/vWeCSfPUBZtI kR+yUuKterJPPKdbIhfhPtAQzucEZHwGpAOM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:32:29 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908030932n37d3613et59227713b8cf0318@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Akim said: > As far as I can tell there isn't too much of a general difference between most loopers... This is where you're obviously wrong, and this may also be why people who absolutely need e.g. unrounded multiply or loop windowing for what they do appear elitist, arrogant or whatever to you. And don't give me that "I can't afford something else"...sell your RC50 and use Mobius instead (free software). ;) Apart from that - I'm curious: are you planning on taking part in the contest? Is anyone else here? (For those who are interested: I just received a statement from the event mgt today and yes, a DD20 is "a boss looper" in the context of the eligibility criteria for the contest). Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 16:46:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 463703BF38; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 346 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:45:59 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=9/vt0k0x2LYExX5dTRB5QC5wF69xwcgRHAMP1apgxIs=; b=oZVYGBZQXwwWBHXSCJFNYkFu2FlIk8AwIMI7wAE/F9TSufJE2uwm6wPCXppCpkGhfC W1dDQoZV1K7D437x8/vmdygfzZtvyqnmqJBcTaF8H2idcVudVmnrWWqHSb/aZECdQJtO WL4wL/JV6VaJi+yi4rPt9Gk5VzSFtIoy7GeXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=G4/BKdnHRRrNyE0sQX09q1pmZZh3G8TN/BaLLNAzOkH5ASid1+tUYw4M/7x+5c/Osn euGFqgU8PaV2xAE4s57jk6ZdtXofpGa+BSk78M6tzpK0DsaigAT7riId17qrr8s8NqUT YiwWKfLaZDPEvcTDTCCXqArFhVbv5VOPDsHLs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <101191640908030927pb0ea914mf8576e4bd49a52b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640908030507i5bee0247y9b4a96a6bbf54f27@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908030608n1b4a2dadv78b9fe08a4e8ba36@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908030927pb0ea914mf8576e4bd49a52b4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marcus Staniec Subject: Re: Semi-OT: playlist.com - embeddable mp3 jukebox + Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:40:03 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <-Z6ZDB.A.3CG.IRxdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:46:00 +0000 (UTC) I found radio.zanorg.com to be a great free radio / playlist for my homepage. Very curious as to way it's not more popular. Check it out! You can see it in action on my band's page: goodluckboys.com Marcus On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:27 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > bummer - i got kind of a non-answer from them, essentially, "yep, we > know it's a problem. we're trying to get more permissions" > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Warren > Sirota wrote: >> ouch!!! i'll have to get in touch with them and see what the story is >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Simeon >> Harris wrote: >>> well i had a look and both players showed this message - "due to >>> licensing >>> restrictions, some or all tracks may be unavailable for playback >>> in your >>> country" - and i couldn't play anything! i'm in the UK, btw... >>> >>> sim >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Warren Sirota >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> And I'm just writing this (of course) to get you to go over to >>>> http://www.warrensirota.com and leave the player on in the >>>> background >>>> for a half hour or so while you do your thing. :-) Nothing brand- >>>> new >>>> there, but a nice collection of some of my favorites. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 17:05:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D1663BEC2; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:05:47 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_35646727-b41b-40d2-87b3-6139629db763_" X-Originating-IP: [70.134.74.202] From: Denis Aldrich To: Subject: RC 50 tempo change Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:00:45 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090803162707.B00C93BF39@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090803162707.B00C93BF39@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2009 17:00:46.0261 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1AB8650:01CA145B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:05:48 +0000 (UTC) --_35646727-b41b-40d2-87b3-6139629db763_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really enjoy this unit and am trying to make use of the tempo change in p= ositive ways. Working to get percussive slower beats sped up to interesti= ng ska type rhythms and slowing beats down to get a more mechanical backgro= und then re-sampling. I don't do any sustained notes for tempo change. Any= body making headway in this area? It has been trial and error for me so far= . =20 =20 I've been getting a nice resonating airy sound from tuning down one neck on= my double neck. _________________________________________________________________ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=3DPID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:e= n-US:SI_PH_software:082009= --_35646727-b41b-40d2-87b3-6139629db763_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really enjoy this unit and am trying to make use of the tempo change in p= ositive ways. =3B =3B Working to get percussive slower beats sped u= p to interesting ska type rhythms and slowing beats down to get a more mech= anical background then re-sampling. 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Get free photo software from Win= dows Live Click here= . = --_35646727-b41b-40d2-87b3-6139629db763_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 17:25:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7728A3BEC0; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:25:45 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:19:03 +0200 From: "Omid Shirazi" Message-ID: <20090803171903.316510@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Hi from Omid To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #47263965 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX187AbA60hw79SqaID9joK9jI1YmSHYVP4Lo43G45h IlvSMM/oN2pqZEgIjJFm2D28deB37JubjSrw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: aGkeee41eWUkQq9WuG1nGoUjL0tsZo1V X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: <3zs_cB.A.NKH.Z2xdKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi All, I have jutst moved from my old email-adress to here. Loop on, Omid -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 17:40:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67AA63BE92; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Op24VgISHpHznRF71BddLdEYqx3WUflKiGJwjFiqo1o=; b=kgt8iBZLZf8vzPRHMwERMlgecpZyK82zk/r2yPGg3UcprH4oufRIWpnRJnh2jEq6Xm UypIGhWDJQd/WlIPjONTm3p5jLrg3R/A+KpvUl9zDJlElFE6hL5tv4WIrXMJNymU9Sdu By2rs8SWtfipz5pmPRE59HUpDGNhpP8FXBYjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=Agb+vA5IDwxL889JBGE9/DlYVh9u7A4DBSplwcyCyUhv9/j4xqeZGaoxRwFVA+U29C FUn7z/n5b7jtQOHwuwuLEJLzJqOlEiWw7K5DwXLwADd1DZVfuFGAwrTNpfoIvLNA8Ikr ymtoHKfrAmFzS/T+5dD0g3vzA/nbwZWhvZE9o= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <77BA08E76A8941A2A1419D608328AD2B@williamsteed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: linsey pollak instruments and loop projects Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:40:00 -0300 References: <66f9cc1e0908021440x5af43f7pe2a6730dc036e8be@mail.gmail.com> <4B9EB48112A3499BB78A94215D9E7E19@williamsteed> <0BA36745-9041-4519-A169-F93175A12F2F@gmail.com> <77BA08E76A8941A2A1419D608328AD2B@williamsteed> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:40:26 +0000 (UTC) he does not show it on youtube, but a lot of other fun ideas the more serious instrument constructions are on his site http://www.linseypollak.com/instruments.html where you also find his livelooping projects and workshops... to wind up a wind instrument and reduce its output to put a pickup =20 instead is so advanced that he is not even copied... On 3 Aug 2009, at 11:52, William Walker wrote: > Do you have a video clip of the glass clarinet? Curly????? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthias Grob [mailto:matilists@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:05 AM > To: billwalker@baymoon.com > Subject: Re: looping hurdy gurdy > > Bill, > > you are talking about Tunji Beier > http://www.tunji.org/percussionist.html > who also plays with Linsey Pollak who is Australian, while Tunji only > lives there and speaks perfect German... > > I equally loved Loibners concert in Z=FCrich and Linseys here in =20 > Salvador > and I fully agree with your point about old instruments > but I am at least as fascinated if someone invents totally new > instruments like Linsey (not so much talking about his recycling funny > instruments, but the his glass creations like the bass clarinet Curly) > > On 2 Aug 2009, at 21:19, William Walker wrote: > >> Yes he was amazing as was his Australian percussionist with his >> aboriginal >> singing stones, I think that=92s what he called them. That clip that >> Rick >> posted made me think of a cross between and erhu and a hurdy gurdy, >> and >> brought back memories of the Zurich performance as well. I love it >> when >> musicians take really old instruments and do something fresh and >> adventurous >> with them as Loibner and his partner did. >> Bill >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:40 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: looping hurdy gurdy >> >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Gareth >> Whittock wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU >> >> >> Great clip! Mattihas Loibner did a great set at the looping festival >> in Z=FCrich 2005. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 17:45:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D213F3BEA2; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249321524; l=3935; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID: X-RZG-AUTH; bh=dTKeTg0bsgFYvrabzEh94mE+q1g=; b=FHbjpDev9hicFVwKpsycUIm6mbx5uy1A4Q0W6Oz8+kmop5A48EHvqBOC3uyoG7D5dkY P/2YhFHo8aP0amMwrcDtUWlgdFO1U2Y5ZBqmRvH8TxpNHvNSKpxDNDT66Ti3xQFwgPUZV 0q59yjyNhNKKsBZN04cdf6/jl6OJEL1gQzI= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: Sonuus Guitar to Midi Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:48:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA1473.6A3C4610" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA1473.6A3C4610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About 10 days ago I got a Sonuus G2M - Guitar to midi converter = (monophonic). My impressions after checking it out are: The fast, accurate not tracking which is advertised in the manual is not possible. I mainly use it for soft snyth-sounds . Not for fast playing = notes. Just to give my guitar playing a smooth backing sound. Like a melotron = etc. But even with that you have to concentrate a lot on playing very = accurate. Otherwise you hear wrong notes very soon.=20 This was the same when I still used the Roland GR 33 guitar synthesizer with an external Midi pick up. Those permanent wrong notes inbetween drove me crazy and made me selling the gear. It kept me from having fun = playing guitar. I also checked the pitch-bend advise from the manual, but it didn=B4t = help: " to ensure that the midi sounds are correctly in tune with the guitar, you have to ensure the Midi patch is set to a = pitch-bend range of + - 2 semitones."=20 Maybe it=B4s ok with playing short notes but if using synth pads with a = quite long release, those spheric sounds, it sounds awful with the wrong notes... What are your experiences with the Sonuus?=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA1473.6A3C4610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
About 10 days ago I got a Sonuus G2M - = Guitar to=20 midi converter (monophonic).
My impressions after checking it out=20 are:
The fast, accurate not tracking which = is advertised=20 in the manual is not
possible. I mainly use it for soft = snyth-sounds .=20 Not for fast playing notes.
Just to give my guitar playing a smooth = backing=20 sound. Like a melotron etc.
But even with that you have to = concentrate a lot on=20 playing very accurate.
Otherwise you hear wrong notes very = soon.=20
This was the same when I still used the = Roland GR=20 33 guitar synthesizer
with an external Midi pick up. Those = permanent=20 wrong notes inbetween
drove me crazy and made me selling the = gear. It=20 kept me from having fun playing guitar.
 
I also checked the pitch-bend advise = from the=20 manual, but it didn=B4t help:
" to ensure that the midi sounds = are correctly=20 in tune
with the guitar, you have to ensure the = Midi patch=20 is set to a pitch-bend
range of + - 2 semitones." =
Maybe it=B4s ok with playing short = notes but if using=20 synth pads with a quite long
release, those spheric sounds, it = sounds awful with=20 the wrong notes...
What are your experiences with the = Sonuus?=20
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA1473.6A3C4610-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 18:04:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE07E3BEB2; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IGA3YlUflmqfD5s2jhdfbwPPE82HDi34vW3+V23sgRg=; b=XzLTPDgGBzN5sWt/Vll1iYLaIxRLyOuZJYZuhl3DGTUwpvk5w3FmOiyDk0tcraleFX bLO6+YmPZTiBEdaN69JRh0C+CsuOgyrMTJc66XmuJ5dqNxQrduwdkRpchhIXpch+wgQR x4F6Znsfn0fAdo56pu2zrVQxMe+3I4l59NENc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rTmh082Pl6t4Qb8i8+ih2uvmpDg+ObcmHpMdRlN87VxS+j/GNj5UsTigQ6t16QSyLu uDd0C6QsZ/Po4t2gDocXFWuGa3XCNY5tId/lfX4LNfWiEmJGm/s/RyJi4WZxkUDzyoH3 IYnFyfsKINK4XVlqYsZrn7MaG+d4zkgtfYe4E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:04:47 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:04:51 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Christo Jota wrote: > Maybe it=C2=B4s ok with playing short notes but if using synth pads with = a quite > long > release, those spheric sounds, it sounds awful with the wrong notes... I played guitar with MIDI synth modules in a band and used the trick to set each string to a unique MIDI channel and set the synth to monophonic playback on each channel. This means every new note I play on a string will mute whatever other note might have been triggered from that string. It becomes easy to correct just one string in a chord if you should get a "wrong note". And I also disabled pitch bend on my synth patches. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 18:47:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E67C3BEB2; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tYCoMq8SvqtAmx4AA3G/WjgCsW530njFwkdefubz6LM=; b=HZf3SEEyXFEyQede2VdGz+aIT+w9yAoUuutIs3gEujr6PS2A1JCC3nGUu0U2wgt/Rw Pzy8p0ss+7yJ8RJxUSzLKcxI5y1qAchq4t4gURPcHRtc8pr4299IB6T8bdMJ+7n1wH6a rjAo/fl3IMSvHsYYNvglGfI0/sxjsMz4FS5w4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d0yP4m3Jf/btxH4Rua3RDSOai47HdHPeKD+tJ89f70whxATE4V5h+HbpTOaolTDseW MiRMVuJWuU9QZ/AajktDJi1O+1OW42gL8hgXdQN+og1vsoR4ajYqDQ6dha4Fq4BPk0sk 826aC8GcE4HyX+1BY7746YfnqDHBvX4zJcWG0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:47:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Of all the guitar synth experiences I've ever had, the only one I still use and enjoy is using Line6's POD Farm and it's synth models. Everything else just makes me feel like the MIDI guitar is playing me. For triggering everything else I find an actual midi keyboard to be worlds better. Almost as if it were designed for it from the start. ;) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Christo Jota wrote: >> Maybe it=B4s ok with playing short notes but if using synth pads with a = quite >> long >> release, those spheric sounds, it sounds awful with the wrong notes... > > > I played guitar with MIDI synth modules in a band and used the trick > to set each string to a unique MIDI channel and set the synth to > monophonic playback on each channel. This means every new note I play > on a string will mute whatever other note might have been triggered > from that string. It becomes easy to correct just one string in a > chord if you should get a "wrong note". And I also disabled pitch bend > on my synth patches. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 19:42:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFE003BE93; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1249328526; bh=0TpC0o4JMzDoOojyxNObfgZlZc1c5xlMsm1hrY2KqHY=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=PxUdzSe00yxpXWZYRncOXJrIXYfsLD002VHV1Xlf0RtFcs89CM69aDZGiMikJj9wW rzvERAx2JiQqgqLYde9wJtEdaNH7Pj51nZ18NnkovMiPnpsh/4KQmpa2hbb6HpEPky cTsk1z0nSsz3DHWiEtcrZmTMB1h1t1UVZ/2slp2Y= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:41:52 +0200 Message-ID: <000001ca1472$739b5f30$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcoUWASUiGMbp8wUTdSAAyNTqJXXkgAGaz0g In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908030932n37d3613et59227713b8cf0318@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:42:07 +0000 (UTC) > (For those who are interested: I just received a statement > from the event mgt today and yes, a DD20 is "a boss looper" > in the context of the eligibility criteria for the contest). I think everyone having the time should join the contest. Serious, I think it's a unique opportunity to do your thing in a different enviroment, promote your own stuff and the philosophy of the live looping community. Do something possitive with it :) --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 20:39:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51E443BE91; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/jiF8YGESvLlUWk8W9OT/JRKwWbx5z0IHYKabOQY/8I=; b=vxrym4kS1NWUJQ2ASD3QUcByIKPWoWNKM5zAFD/2PNylkSriU9q9hWmhv0zOFtluIH wqAKQz8dR+x/FwBjImHRqnQwKexfUi4n+ag3GfUBSS2xatxKWcb8F6aOixZA6r84zMiF 8nferM0nhHnrTTmEE8kFXRTDjrvJ0BmlJM3wI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HA7jDgLOAd/j8Km4aBhGwLhljLV9Fedk/REOMSHxDtB8G5eoTqeiOw8g0wnLYtBUmt D+a62JMJaIHZEKIIRdOkx/kMvakQF1nPUsQ0l4we67C50ncErKJsRYE5fKaZNs2o0ZG+ 2BrPkuIeEwq+maDZy29TtHobKHZzGdYap1sF8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:39:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0908031339g2868600as46958b2665b2e389@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6434bb698f8b6047042c3fb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:39:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6434bb698f8b6047042c3fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roland GR-300. /thread :) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > Of all the guitar synth experiences I've ever had, the only one I > still use and enjoy is using Line6's POD Farm and it's synth models. > Everything else just makes me feel like the MIDI guitar is playing me. > For triggering everything else I find an actual midi keyboard to be > worlds better. Almost as if it were designed for it from the start. > ;) > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Christo Jota > wrote: > >> Maybe it=B4s ok with playing short notes but if using synth pads with = a > quite > >> long > >> release, those spheric sounds, it sounds awful with the wrong notes... > > > > > > I played guitar with MIDI synth modules in a band and used the trick > > to set each string to a unique MIDI channel and set the synth to > > monophonic playback on each channel. This means every new note I play > > on a string will mute whatever other note might have been triggered > > from that string. It becomes easy to correct just one string in a > > chord if you should get a "wrong note". And I also disabled pitch bend > > on my synth patches. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > > > > > --=20 -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --0016e6434bb698f8b6047042c3fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roland GR-300. /thread
=A0
:)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Mark Sottilaro = <zerocrossin= g@gmail.com> wrote:
Of all the guitar synth experien= ces I've ever had, the only one I
still use and enjoy is using Line6= 's POD Farm and it's synth models.
Everything else just makes me feel like the MIDI guitar is playing me.
F= or triggering everything else I find an actual midi keyboard to be
world= s better. =A0Almost as if it were designed for it from the start.
;)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Per Boysen<perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>= On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Christo Jota<chris@christojota.de> wrote:
>> Maybe it=B4s ok with playing short notes but if using synth pads w= ith a quite
>> long
>> release, those spheric sounds, it = sounds awful with the wrong notes...
>
>
> I played guita= r with MIDI synth modules in a band and used the trick
> to set each string to a unique MIDI channel and set the synth to
&g= t; monophonic playback on each channel. This means every new note I play> on a string will mute whatever other note might have been triggered > from that string. It becomes easy to correct just one string in a
&= gt; chord if you should get a "wrong note". And I also disabled p= itch bend
> on my synth patches.
>
> Greetings from Swede= n
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>




--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
--0016e6434bb698f8b6047042c3fb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 20:39:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EAEE3BE95; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 482 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:39:55 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TSqTJQxKbGU0AIqqUCpAlm04zW9Z620E9Qwji9A/FKU=; b=m4a8cZFVswKqRRvIbXMW1ctJNDXLkRzhmAgJfzas5+9uyQRWG7CCuBkFoTPCQ0qZzy LXeqZymyHmSOxkd6Oj5j7327QqRywM9Ve3kUFN9UxcK2AoM98rRyIEmKVfduhWDjyv4h HL63hRCUFjfpKoOSJ3gtN0SVL/EplXcBOMWXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SchU7632KVKXLvb0DI7sJdijhGNmrzZJfmXF06fcoz7Zvmyj4k5Z2jq59909bU7waz p1FtfOSj75Fw8pbs0Dg79YBDosqQk4kMbIgOusoYHdYnjbGitxQLljRZRpsHL31t1JHJ w0nBDGrsMwMOfaJWk/+o7GBQcG39T0eyI/UrE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:31:51 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: what cases do you use for your looping gear? From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:39:56 +0000 (UTC) A practical question for the loopers who travel a lot: What kind of cases do you prefer to use for your equipment & gear? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 20:53:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 646F63BE90; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BDmf81sAbMWZKaH8/WseLL26T17l/nNlfFuARELhL3c=; b=BLsR23m1fmGewsYhJtqs/aowgWEyGTG0rKowxiNbiuLPL1IxSPJKsXmJCQqHs2J9B1 ZvM61RGDkwOw4K55Lk3I6krtBaO/ojpyPH8yA7M0gCyTEV4VQtVKh4fP0YwP+TR4AmCj 5tVS8/ZKxvqkXFIKZT1HpsTYaw2sCusu51Rbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jMfXbinxXSsTPjYd/z/64jt7kP/TI4s0tklsOPzgEQZLX84Gv+4RSijceuJ86U0qPP ivnJM6NOxDP0xCKn7F9whTbvpQYqJW+kBNOiw/3gm8hNb8cNQDZgJGSBpVYu/yFBxoT9 rj+D/GbTzVJnDj3YAoFQMNlA4EFZ95BeTJBpA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:53:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <92E6NC.A.KDG.140dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Heh, I totally misread this. "I use my looper when I want to hear a bit of audio over and over again. Is there any other case where you'd want to use a looper?" On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Milo wrote: > A practical question for the loopers who travel a lot: > > What kind of cases do you prefer to use for your equipment & gear? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 21:22:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 426503BE90; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uF0xmpJjeMOhgyfBfztiOVvZNmlDU1JwCHZmulzk8DI=; b=LHlbkV+/8zGkuE0KlGCFklCari6cCFgt/wpcAdxgZ8SLNvHKVHAAPDzLY231PebaTK KO1FZxWmzhjiPvAcS+mpJw89YrlLU39l1mUhQxlvljcSlcHUriSilYQ9gUZuA4Thhxdt XGv7j4GR+W5TQpkLNz/q39GabN0aaBBMlVSNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TbwYTCDoZLSWcOXjrR/bJKJfc3BuewArTCNBBk+xGbKFlEisotT/rlk/IVFbZ6u8bw avTMhAAnwROkJNL7bNvb9dy8PcH6hBVbGYjflohYnYtH/AqkILkZ+8EApnwrz1ORJq3d 1tdoyfoFK6QzFGeTrC9JwqSE0OSibBjTSEGbg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:22:34 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908031422l58bd78e3o7042653cdd6cc7d9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:22:35 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Milo wrote: > A practical question for the loopers who travel a lot: > > What kind of cases do you prefer to use for your equipment & gear? Peli. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 21:25:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25D2D3BEA4; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=G0utKfQF80WHtRj78NydR1kF4VP2yUz9E1mQgCMhrFI=; b=QE/xgtZJnCVxZRH3kDPP8BGdV6gldBpTFnbBUqby3uJMGp9QvzKIDx1BCpvQlt7dOV HY+NKnim8Qm51NxzHNy7ofXccCITd4UjHnFJfO/hc7WdY1HmCK2ZknjfM6d2o3XRmW+C BolGxiBK5JYmmUFoLyR3oqkWflcsrJ2GxFHhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SgQyPsOvVP640yHVN63mTXHdLsCS4W/uBLVPWQ5RBFRwk0A38kHoja+4L0yG/8iPLd bdRtBCZWjSsjf4eCM233ZrJMPEEMtNPb0ftvxoks6pjVNZ+aHExnDtH10wCJH1UnnDFy 4AaNRC8jUHKpAim9TmnLiworTJEVns2vlUgUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0908031339g2868600as46958b2665b2e389@mail.gmail.com> References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> <1318f21d0908031339g2868600as46958b2665b2e389@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:25:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908031425q32497db7y462a6b30e0611004@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:25:06 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > Roland GR-300 Those are nice, but not MIDI. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 21:31:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B952A3BE8D; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249335070; bh=RsYkigvE3HJOYpIYaIDjymXaIbEWiWB/um8IAclZkto=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=H9sxh1tRufFeF9WxyjgxZtYD35aqL/L4mSBhIo2UoRe4PWFlG1XSDtcF9idcCwiBDrFMCNj093z+hiraJveoyhE0ETl1HbHPrUf4G6opIdjm/byIlHLOkisTfcN9EUJc/+DzhUgpUHvLQE98Qk89t6fBMA1WUS9/ea6z/b19FJI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Bw6Miv+HB7oWlvNkxP52lGx06QsgQWGFoXG2l3+DH5UMQMwFxn96al9SCj2EW+WlkMfWtS+V3206OXz159tiU5y4B2TLsMtjtyMlczX0zRnYcAxraymJJXZvGeeOyoaS+xb8FYtZnAa0mXyUVeJ1aUtGiRIu6s3FP3Sbir+oZw8=; Message-ID: <903700.11718.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JjumrrkVM1lb_rUjC_kRNta3LFF9IgtQONm8iPd9vhGujaR6DaYM.S0K5FgoyanDzf6HJF4xmtQtEn_yY3eenDBbo_Cb0gJnY2DnrFBuk8c2Ojr.6lYkYRgAgTjNiYu910Mid_tBr3Xc_Z5XZ_0_NL1qdu0YGdDXkZ6rLEirRREislbAJJnrU4WSPC1161_AGzDUlcIjztYAWvmj.kfEwiRLGKiuTHMnU6FnkQWPhRZwKxVgHdIiV1_IA7yluI1w4mGHBMeBDh1JbrXgIxNMKMCa0jQk_4162.MdyLtyRhhN3q.4aXHjgbaz5nB31.VB_HqL12yIu9A5X5qcR5cmHDb.cgT8hRYFLi9H.D3P46V_ X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From: AKIM TRIEBSCH Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908030932n37d3613et59227713b8cf0318@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rainer,=0AThe thing is, is that I like having the hardware as opposed to= using a laptop. If I am going to upgrade it will be with an echoplex or a= looperlative. However, I will check out MOBIUS (is it MAC compatible?) si= nce it is free...thanks....=0A=0ASell my RC-50! No way! However, that doe= s not mean I am not open to setting up new ways of doing things if it actua= lly enhances the work...=0A=0AEnter the contest: possibly.=0A=0AAkim=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Rainer Straschill wrote:=0A=0A> From: Rainer Straschill =0A> Subj= ect: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany=0A> To: loopers-delight@loopers-del= ight.com=0A> Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 9:32 AM=0A> Akim said:=0A> > As = far as I can tell there isn't too much of a general=0A> difference between = most loopers...=0A> =0A> This is where you're obviously wrong, and this may= also be=0A> why people=0A> who absolutely need e.g. unrounded multiply or = loop=0A> windowing for what=0A> they do appear elitist, arrogant or whateve= r to you.=0A> =0A> And don't give me that "I can't afford something=0A> els= e"...sell your=0A> RC50 and use Mobius instead (free software). ;)=0A> =0A>= Apart from that - I'm curious: are you planning on taking=0A> part in the= =0A> contest? Is anyone else here?=0A> =0A> (For those who are interested: = I just received a statement=0A> from the=0A> event mgt today and yes, a DD2= 0 is "a boss looper" in the=0A> context of=0A> the eligibility criteria for= the contest).=0A> =0A> Yours,=0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer= =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 21:59:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16CD73BE8F; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZUApmRZy4QnAQWWT4hd+CnCh0SLGwi7bLb42d//Ndm4=; b=o5c38RhKQt3M5gv7DDyC0aG2aUYGCDzxYLfTDNlUdcL/srRb9uS6P4kdzUghHLPY0n O/9o7l/iFFrk1OJfnobZvlgAv0XR9EeMU0uIsQtySpt7Vpos16EktC7rtqk18FpvOMBg bsv2ujuVyekDBh8XE8m8vZPYrZSO7W/TNaw1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KdSPam0DHh8UsGMHcOCi/ERDRtyOnS8Sm7NNvnQNciwDGiiHXJVk5Ea7u5Wp4BfdWA reyBbyqho3FTuVTowUMqO0iOsrU5mReOVtULbMl8Tt4n9NhxjpIlVafK7OXB2Q0WrsHx cWZJU81NwnJHgdZ+sj+u6HFg1GgQXNjRo6ULU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908031422l58bd78e3o7042653cdd6cc7d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908031422l58bd78e3o7042653cdd6cc7d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:59:19 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90908031459xfa462dw7bf43272e50f1591@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:59:19 +0000 (UTC) I'm really happy with 3u gator bag. Sylvain On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Milo wrote: >> A practical question for the loopers who travel a lot: >> >> What kind of cases do you prefer to use for your equipment & gear? > > Peli. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 22:35:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E9BD3BE92; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wYxT+jA5m8Idi4d/Cif0/f5TvM5hp3UIOE0Vq3E4B/A=; b=mCnI0mHBFsTF/I+DoqnrqzItOT5GSnoTNTANEHQsIxyOaZsVr8XYs4nUdEBC4Y7fNA 5WR8wQmbP5pJRNZN6ZhNgK1BvKP+wYnRchR+f14K9mk32mzHQQXwYy/xV/7AttOir6p+ 9UdJbqCFAY8sqv8OQzAfHK0nNUl3MzxfmX/rY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GYQkKOhdj9L0MGB8MQHv/QqGf/dfuNrFQZQz896rEVlWetHgZRF4STsANVUcuP5yG7 WmGO74b7Dren2fykZvVDdaCH/3dUD/t3NsEAM6uWgw/uBWRfusInsDg7Kb173kWccem0 qu+7FFSZz1SakY3R4i0sPH0h8E8qJl+Il5MDU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:35:46 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9gvXh.A.rEC.DZ2dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:35:47 +0000 (UTC) > A practical question for the loopers who travel a lot: > > What kind of cases do you prefer to use for your equipment & gear? http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200903/msg01038.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 23:13:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E230E3BE8D; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:13:05 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249340783; bh=HfwAk8E3NobdwSKMW5GgMABk8rlhDoxiEVyf+XYpZXU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fakT+vQeV//1RIYBB9vF9FXmnp/dZpdMdUSS3y/j4P3S6ZKcQsPcwgr0UjERMfGbEcStgqIxzSQehrtx3q6cyYloCcJ5+M2X8sJksj1QHzMSFqpgtHfc3jNxVklGWmcnVzrC//aEgOID0+PzVPnn1KjorZxgXmk1mkuCUdnCvXY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pC7c1MnhXkiWGJlcVeKE86vhrVMdm7u4tjSGi7OjZcg37FCyRXaaK+BK/ef9pVq9lF5YIpaSVlDcaFlv7AZPqhvmzV95YwEifY6PVA7k+wXlumEpYi/ypBqB7MP3DnOiBVMeEziQBczgC7E7q4oGDPN5LTfyr9GL9ZPHA/gi348=; Message-ID: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TR9i0hsVM1lv8W6sh3zf3vtDHY2xjQt9FXq7nKnhKvDwbmfZ79Zulp22ky0g2L6hw9K3aUKOkZjtW83Vda7tm_mc3mTd.twIXJ5dY7K2MUq6nvbBqlBvaHz7Ecqqkt4KE3eDMtrFGWxbvZyRS2jyxP1naVYqY0zEcbiKwE76Q5QwUp4MWxu5JMqtHTaYPLUUgF5N0rwlXOHNbjFTmFu3.f.0e3md9f59oTJX5zJNqaPhdY4m2F_jP_VXrolXKaXkWAPr5rtMveggRpEyt3bGa03LCIWd7mfznPIoBP.GKwnkzMtyBadMlBI_MrMDqC26qkdGa5M5vFgIS1VbmUh1v7L23nwRSlY.UflkCKNWJL.a8T__zTXyll3pZnGTAuw- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1976721518-1249340782=:23820" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:13:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-1976721518-1249340782=:23820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got trashe= d by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my looping....evidently beca= use i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" player.....I'd like to hear your = experiences with this kind of bigot Kyle=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 --0-1976721518-1249340782=:23820 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 OK... My Looping friends......tell me s= ome story's.....i just got trashed by some acoustic purists at a gig becaus= e of my looping....evidently because i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" = player.....I'd like to hear your experiences with this kind of bigot
Kyle

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--0-1976721518-1249340782=:23820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 23:24:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6AE23BE92; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=tLL6YTz0NjAxnjFyGpBmSUnjbSRUXR+M7A1cRPPMaqQ++iVsnC9QoEtbWmc67ym0TIcPfKvn/4l7q8NHgotRxjXHEQ9b0JG1/dUysOLr0Z3omLFOi4LIAUcRMBaDSxeogZRizLdBGQNggELoMrmVq7zjKXce69Yk6swZ+01iU1A= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: G8ccEdsVM1kDRUuBRUL8Ygd2tH.FM270diJGhii1pi6nPaoadmgHYiMTDP552zN6gKPJfBfyEHlccoFD8B.8RhGDwSJ8YoCrTfIa3G.jdRYiyTV6W_YMXn3FnsMDx4loE4_aChDum15bMJURlc1FQJGbXP3xDihxo1J_nxyP5CdgRTxgn8NOYLZ36_RvQlQAFfqA7wFrE8ojP8h591_gb0FUgP_jrdHpqF1Uztqjn5Hbpot5ealSClKZXUWgrQmudAFKfwGCEq75NNNpt4Um57WcE3KAe7wFBhvhY7CLzK8BH2GOoG.yqbXDlpHPf5Ca1UYN29YWOg0ZTJtpsZ178IVRRvkUWA0lT4s- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2BF8E1E341D048FABA076DD6A28ECF24@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:24:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0212_01CA1499.FEB38490" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <8Oqj9C.A.jCE.BH3dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:24:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0212_01CA1499.FEB38490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They generally have no electricity in their homes, and do no wash. It's = just ignorance. You get it with every trade man. Smile. Life's too short = to let the bastards grind you down. Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: K D Patten=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:06 AM Subject: anti-looper bigots OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just = got trashed by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my = looping....evidently because i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" = player.....I'd like to hear your experiences with this kind of bigot Kyle=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release Date: = 08/03/09 05:57:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0212_01CA1499.FEB38490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
They generally have no electricity in = their homes,=20 and do no wash. It's just ignorance. You get it with every trade man. = Smile.=20 Life's too short to let the bastards grind you down.
 
Ricky
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0212_01CA1499.FEB38490-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 23:25:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18FA93BE92; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=K9r8Gx8QQMIQKxDx7DF8BUElAUBUEl4qnmZvfgYg14Q=; b=VC7+VTjUPNGEK8f3wBmkd1QQvnl/Yyb5Y7F0AmElDXwdKKfTqaXdMRCl1R49aqt4mc S7/h2ElFvUMwT/qqRlvhJqSWIwKKZWcE0g1LvxorggPP4pUk55suilZGf0/hknbwO300 VPAHNxf4W5t/BCjvjZ5lHiOFixH5NbjG3eRn0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AX5xQ7m/xqF8IJyeQEyj40P1L8akkUoe8cRkxxPdHhBG8UO/nLhvwwXoD/R65gO3M/ FvFIyNyqiugjSx4MyRKBYLxHLxa/KkS1M9kaDjJqA/k1rVwXBGEj75rI308LUuXtkEoI nCxBeDs42t/qkQo5mCbUza5DIA+YuCw4XJ9qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:25:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Oh man, I used to get crap all the time. I have to admit I'd kind of invite it though, but creating some crazy complex loop and then putting down my guitar and walking away to sit in the audience for a bit. Someone would always say, "Wait, you're not playing that?!" and I'd reply, "well not any more I'm not." Tons of times I get people coming right up to me and starting conversations because they think I'd DJing it or something. This is even pre laptop. Usually nerdy guys who want to talk about what gear I'm using. Not quite looping (though he used a looper) my friend Gary used to feed samples from a laptop into a JamMan. During a performance at a sculpture space a woman came up to him and mid performance loudly said, "Oh is this all prerecorded?!" He politely tried to respond, but I think I yelled back at her and made her go away. She called me rude, but I invited her to consider what's ruder, being chased away from performers or pestering performers during a performance. Funny. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM, K D Patten wrote: > =A0OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got tras= hed > by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my looping....evidently beca= use > i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" player.....I'd like to hear your > experiences with this kind of bigot > > Kyle > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 23:27:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118263BE93; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 315 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:27:19 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 755255.81109.bm@omp203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249341723; bh=yirsjEOvPv8Ah0IeRwk9mkkwTc0WuW5Cnc1qxhasH0E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0q1SS3HhyyK30U8qt/5T7hBjG0cQe0Fm24zmahgW2uXS6XXHSwT5uvyFsz9uXZmJtIhPjTtlDZkh+gMRtkv0Rg63/42xYW53icd8VL6mar8Fpl0qEJZo4ItoFQxHgLsUKATN1gulidsG8sB1oxnSzCEcbtI2tQcjwhTL32igg9A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LZwW1zhq9uThO7yVQq1NtOs4qg2dV8vBUwKBKeJvFfcRuisBNxuB2XIy/R6MnbQaCiV+QR9eOMBn/xSdouazGzMxJl1YNtSmVdj1o/FRfaHobEAGGP6h5AxzfJtnJN43DgZYywSAiR4tAcuYa2+nssRYEzizVnHXzzhVD8YDt4Q=; Message-ID: <520925.20129.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TguiNeoVM1mfVNiOws_dyL_U7rJoxn6fbPmNPEJFDqOaydvh4h77bHhzdPY6vvKoE4rC3VdJX4TN4KkTXpJ5X30AnVGxa9i1gCUrxEk.BfyDloqCCEhyAyiIJsdEKl2Nuakz8S6FxW3PMNXPls0E9w3w8wHzR2WMpm5vLFPg8rOWSwA0eT3L05otqvnI6V_eoojiyTQq0O2BijzFKCvHW0_Hmf2UxW39yp3J9LYG5v5QbWgyW4YHb555G_RMe0ZoMGC7usHalsmpvRFy.PCpEjREi1wDMZi04ba1qxWhxNBawl9JpJD84FvlnENb19ZaKPzUEDT77TI4e1lB4cZ2X37lnJV1fR.yJ7O13JrauXOGXA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:22:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, they usually hang out with the "Modal tuning is CHEATING" crowd...=0A= =0A-t-=0A=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes=0Ahttp://cdbaby.com/all/timn= elson=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/speleman62=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 8/3/09, K D P= atten wrote:=0A=0A=0A> =A0OK... My Looping=0A> friends= .......tell me some story's.....i just got trashed=0A> by some acoustic puri= sts at a gig because of my=0A> looping....evidently because i loop it disqu= alifies me as a=0A> "real" player.....I'd like to hear your=0A> experiences= with this kind of bigot=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 23:31:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C72123BEAE; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:31:11 UTC Message-Id: <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-451731702 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:24:31 -0600 References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:31:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-451731702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What I tell people is that it's apples to oranges. Using looping is simply another form of performance. It's about making art and or entertainment, and sometimes, it's just.....God forbid (facetiously said)...fun. "Acoustic" purists are some of the worst.....Hey, I like playing shows just plugged in and unadorned as well, though of course with these purists, it's not legit unless you just stand in front of an SM 57. It's just an entirely different mind set for me in a number of ways. I've actually heard some people say I was "cheating" as if there are rules for music like in a basketball game or something. My two cents.... John Floridis www.johnfloridis.com --Apple-Mail-3-451731702 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I tell people is that it's = apples to oranges.  Using looping is simply another form of = performance.  It's about making art and or entertainment, and = sometimes, it's just.....God forbid (facetiously said)...fun. =  

"Acoustic" purists are some of the = worst.....Hey, I like playing shows just plugged in and unadorned as = well,  though of course with these purists, it's not legit unless = you just stand in front of an SM 57.  It's just an entirely = different mind set for me in a number of = ways.

I've actually heard some people say I was = "cheating" as if there are rules for music like in a basketball game or = something.

My two = cents....



= --Apple-Mail-3-451731702-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 3 23:57:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFEB13BEC0; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1007 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:57:28 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-452696953 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:40:36 -0700 References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 0c91ef2d-8087-11de-a90b-001f29070be2 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVZfTsLCBpo UEhAUlJSHgFoCx8J SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0K0F+ PBsFSTMGYWJobmVR U0dRdE1UIwpLK0lH Pk13VHsKfGQGMi99 Fl5rNXVpZWxRcnUN HVkHIAgEe0tZVjc6 WxFHGTIoBUAfDy8y IBs6MTYx X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.kestrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1849/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:57:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-452696953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bwa ha ha! i've totally heard that! Acoustic Music Series in San Diego thinks the same thing of me. i heard through the grapevine (i.e fan mail) that they won't have me back because of the looping (although their concerts are amplified and many guitarists perform there with looping pedals) my advice: IGNORE THEM. i don't even respond to that kind of thing On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:06 PM, K D Patten wrote: > OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got > trashed by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my > looping....evidently because i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" > player.....I'd like to hear your experiences with this kind of bigot > > Kyle > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten > > > --Apple-Mail-2-452696953 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bwa ha ha! i've totally heard = that!

Acoustic Music Series in San Diego thinks the = same thing of me. i heard through the grapevine (i.e fan mail) that they = won't have me back because of the looping (although their concerts are = amplified and many guitarists perform there with looping = pedals)

my advice: IGNORE THEM. i don't even = respond to that kind of = thing





On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:06 PM, K D Patten = wrote:

 OK... My Looping friends......tell me some=20 story's.....i just got trashed by some acoustic purists at a gig = because=20 of my looping....evidently because i loop it disqualifies me as = a "real"=20 player.....I'd like to hear your experiences with this kind of=20 bigot

Kyle

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyl= edeanpatten         =20




= --Apple-Mail-2-452696953-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 00:19:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 685CE3BEAF; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090803201933.MRKA6.2882661.root@mp11> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:19:33 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? Cc: Milo In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:19:38 +0000 (UTC) I used to use SKB shock mount racks and cases . . .but I'm traveling a litt= le lighter these days with Odyssey rack bags. They're tough and lightweight . . . and the interior surface likes Velcro .= . . which I use to secure wall-warts so they don't move around.. -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn Man is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the victims h= e intends to eat until he eats them. =E2=80=93 Samuel Butler (1835 - 1902) http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes ---- Milo wrote:=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D A practical question for the loopers who travel a lot: What kind of cases do you prefer to use for your equipment & gear? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 00:34:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78BD03BEBA; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:34:55 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-20-452336553 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:34:36 -0500 References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:34:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-20-452336553 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > "Acoustic" purists are some of the worst..... Are these the same people who tried to boo Bob Dylan off the stage roughly 40 years ago when he plugged in? Must be... Jeff --Apple-Mail-20-452336553 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

"Acoustic" purists are some of the worst.....

Are these the same people who tried to boo Bob Dylan off the stage roughly 40 years ago when he plugged in? Must be...

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-20-452336553-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 01:10:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCECF3BE95; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3615 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:10:18 UTC Message-id: <4A777C51.7000506@Verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:09:53 -0400 From: Dan Ash User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:10:18 +0000 (UTC) > > You people were funny at first but now your guffaws of snobbery and elitist technocratic behaviour are really starting to take their toll...I mean what are "we" about here....does it have anything to do with making music? I am starting to wonder...I guess it has become unfashionable among the "Technocrati" to loop with a BOSS pedal...hmmmmm I haven't been following this thread too closely, but my impression was that the amusement at the Boss looping contest was due to several aspects of their support for looping. The comments here were generally related to mocking the idea of an olympic-style competition from a community that largely has moved away from evaluating looping in terms like those used in the rampant guitar 'gunslinging' phenomenon. 'Competition' is largely an anachronism here on LD. Over the years Boss product developers have been rather unresponsive to input from the looping community regarding the design of their loopers - resulting in three designs that don't incorporate some of the most important requirements for looping anything other than accompaniment of pre-recorded loops, or for a looping paradigm that plays a static loop over and over. This is true of many/most of the mass-production looping products (Digidesign is another company that comes to mind). The Boss RC-50 is an improvement but as it turns out, a feedback control feature was only implemented using a technique developed and documented by a determined looper (from this board, I think). My point is that they produced design after design without supporting any more than the most simplistic concept of what is actually available in more sophisticated hardware or in largely free software loopers. From the top of my list is MIDI sync, saving a loop on the fly, upload of saved loops, and the aforementioned feedback control. So Boss representatives might well be judging contestants in gunslinging contest using tools supporting a limited palette -and their designs suggest a lack of some degree of expertise to boot. I think you will find the participants here are overall very generous with their expertise and focused on making music. I don't even agree that the members of LD can be counted on to disparage gear choices of those using other units than their own. Many wonderful compositions get posted here from loopers using simple delays, tape machines, and re-purposed musical toys. I think perhaps Akim read too much into a little light-hearted fun at Boss's expense. Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 01:41:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81B1E3BE91; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1249350094; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=esnF15SZUpNl+VwckEuM2MQlHdg=; b=Y1cKzmeITDfw7WoB/UMKMGTOOIXa488xsOlsBQi15AHAPchEmjzJjvB8Bq5obM9B h46RVWsyZEfMJOhxCmPhnrQ9gzfcYQLaIeWmlGMSQyMuYNTYUg7+MxX5qkFTa/i7; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=6WWqPE-YwuyD_FJL7N8A:9 a=dVQWB5cswFsoEnkB47GgpXb2FCYA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=v8S6L-yvxXHkgohzCCMA:9 a=V7W9skifwC2BzyUcje4A:7 a=4ixXZWBGkhgqItruTu9aOy0AsX8A:4 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:41:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA1483.2B6CEAB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:41:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA1483.2B6CEAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't forget the beating Miles Davis took from the purists when he went = electric! Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Shirkey=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots "Acoustic" purists are some of the worst..... Are these the same people who tried to boo Bob Dylan off the stage = roughly 40 years ago when he plugged in? Must be... Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA1483.2B6CEAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don't forget the beating Miles Davis = took from the=20 purists when he went electric!
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff=20 Shirkey
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 = 7:34=20 PM
Subject: Re: anti-looper = bigots



"Acoustic"=20 purists are some of the = worst.....

Are these the same people who tried to boo Bob Dylan off the = stage=20 roughly 40 years ago when he plugged in? Must be...

Jeff
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA1483.2B6CEAB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 01:56:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33CF03BE92; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <739EE0F4-25C9-4875-B8BE-BB3439500F21@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:56:42 -0700 References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Yep, And still takes . . . if you count the general dismissal of his music during his electric period by Ken Burns and Wynton Marsalis in Burns' "Jazz" documentary. Nothing, except maybe Weather Report got much of a mention in the series. No Metheny, no McLaughlin, no Corea, no anything tainted with electricity or the term "fusion" . . . and most unbelievably no mention of the contributions of any Europeans let alone Manfred Eicher and his wonderful, monumental label ECM. It's as though Jazz stopped from the mid '60s to sometime in the late '80s or early'90s when young gentlemen in suits started blowing horns again. There still seem to be plenty of style and technology nazis around. And there are always plenty of folks to criticize. Cheers, Ted On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Don't forget the beating Miles Davis took from the purists when he > went electric! > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 02:19:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D64BD3BE90; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eucOQMpRV5dWnxD1lIsviP2gnWvzZGM8pWFGF8HW578=; b=BVDD0gs6B4DGQ4RfbwJlP7WvbxSLSbUT5zEBdSnGrswGOPTQrCdLo1GwyPBH3/AfLg grDuERO5pZLoAYBtLIk8HWXR9dwoZs/CMeuLu4mlrMS5oBrsWM1mUcQ0REAdUwigSS9l bCT2ZZp9QG8F72Avh1tn6mXClsEMqYAx0pYrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QnC4YDp00CK/7CjWMqAp2uS/cwK1ZJRaIj86SD1yD4OGvn6bweB/g7VeVjW3lDfX+s Le01nPzGV+qGVWxswOZo9LNMsWvJrjI8TX9UZsIW9P8YzKKPGhUA5b66Sc9K4U1P2efN VuokRBCKovrOC3sKJWrhCQECGFWTXW5yekxnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908031425q32497db7y462a6b30e0611004@mail.gmail.com> References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> <1318f21d0908031339g2868600as46958b2665b2e389@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908031425q32497db7y462a6b30e0611004@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:18:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0908031918t1ba208dcv91b977e2b7a2cb15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163698969439d4650470478248 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:19:02 +0000 (UTC) --00163698969439d4650470478248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know, I know. But for sheer responsiveness, you can't beat it as long as you can deal with the limits of the sound palette. Mark Smart, who I think is on this list, came up with a design for a GR300 CV interface ( http://www.marksmart.net/gearhack/gr300/analogmods/395report/Report.html) which intrigues me greatly, If I'm not mistaken, CV to midi conversion is very fast and accurate. If one had the dollars to throw at the problem, it seems like a CV interface based on the Roland pitch detector circuit of the GR300, which in turn fed a 6 channel CV to midi convertor would really be the best tracking midi guitar controller of all time! Pardon my flight of fancy. :) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, George > Ludwig wrote: > > Roland GR-300 > > Those are nice, but not MIDI. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --00163698969439d4650470478248 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know, I know. But for sheer responsiveness, you can't beat it as= long as you can deal with the limits of the sound palette.
=A0
Mark Smart, who I think is on this list, came up with a design for a G= R300 CV interface (http://www.marksmart.net/gearhack/gr300/analog= mods/395report/Report.html) which intrigues me greatly, If I'm not = mistaken, CV to midi conversion is very=A0fast and accurate. If one had the= dollars to throw at the problem, it seems like a CV interface based on the= Roland pitch detector circuit of the GR300, which in turn fed a 6 channel = CV to midi convertor would really be the best tracking midi guitar controll= er of all time!
Pardon my flight of fancy.=A0=A0 =A0:)
=A0
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM,= George
Ludwig<georgel= udwigmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Roland GR-300

Those are nice, but not MIDI.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
--00163698969439d4650470478248-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 02:21:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB4033BE8F; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:21:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA1477.F1CD0750" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 02:21:22.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[428DDE30:01CA14AA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:21:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA1477.F1CD0750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Were they using mics on their acoustic instruments?=20 My take...we're all either 100% real or 100% totally fake...which means = the distinction is meaningless. I love to run my alto flute through my = computer so that it is unrecognizable as a flute...is that real or fake? = Who the hell cares. Anyone who gets hung up on these things probably = isn't listening or is missing the point.=20 But one thing I like to do if someone acts like what you describe below, = is to demonstrate to them that I can do what they do (which I can), but = then point out that I choose not to do so far artistic reasons. That = usually shuts them up. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just = got trashed by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my = looping....evidently because i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" = player.....I'd like to hear your experiences with this kind of bigot Kyle=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA1477.F1CD0750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Were they using mics on their acoustic = instruments?=20
 
My take...we're all either 100% real or = 100%=20 totally fake...which means the distinction is meaningless.   I = love to=20 run my alto flute through my computer so that it is unrecognizable as a=20 flute...is that real or fake? Who the hell cares. Anyone who gets hung = up on=20 these things probably isn't listening or is missing the point. =
 
But one thing I like to do if someone = acts like=20 what you describe below, is to demonstrate to them that I can do what = they do=20 (which I can), but then point out that I choose not to do so far = artistic=20 reasons.  That usually shuts them up.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----

 
 OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i = just got trashed by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my = looping....evidently because i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" = player.....I'd like to hear your experiences with this kind of = bigot

------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA1477.F1CD0750-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 02:21:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E54B93BEA4; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8fvHiTeiK+BkVAAiUxpD60+9m9cfLnPQa9H/N813SMI=; b=UjMGSq2TJjVXse++9UZnGRxnJljOVtRc9ffxWHtw5ZdZdIb0rhCjwYp8Fu54K/KxEN rTP7PQn4YbKnihQK8ZdHPTBUMe93QVFhEs181fyP2+0MFCnN4TCgkc5cwYHueO3gTBBu H8741jsMqc2yL01/4h17JDNbguzG8UifOGDmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mZ3HzGYMoY+Z1UgNY9nQhj5lD5QpbjquNZywlNsXoJsELJzj/pKqJ3LiJW3ezRmXTe Ib5mpt0/K3P/jlbvn4oRe6OMS2y7yyLffIlHu/IGvXEEu94RoN7QOqw16QO7d33rzibt 3ucRRqrdoNEkj9bqNVDI8ZvxyC2lnvnIHE57A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <739EE0F4-25C9-4875-B8BE-BB3439500F21@charter.net> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <739EE0F4-25C9-4875-B8BE-BB3439500F21@charter.net> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90908031921m3ff9568ex52c03cb3b47aff17@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:21:28 +0000 (UTC) (rant alert) Yeah don't get me started on that Ken Burns documentary... How can you leave out Frank Rosolino and J.J. Johnson from the history of jazz... It's like leaving out the trombone entirely... which is what they did... They mention Kid Ory, showcase Jack Teagarden (singing not playing his horn), do a small piece on Glenn Miller (as a great band leader) and we hear some snippets from Dorsey... But really, all great jazz comes out of saxophones and trumpets? The real insult comes at the very end of the film when we get a roll call of all the great players carrying on the torch, and not one of them a trombone player... I could name at least half a dozen great players right now that deserve some attention, but don't get nearly enough in part because they don't play sax or trumpet, in fact I will: Nils Wogram Wycliffe Gordon Ray Anderson Nils Landgren Lucien Barbarin Robin Eubanks (check out his looping with his band EB3) and those are only some players active these days... leaving out Frank Rosolino and J.J. Johnson from a comprehensive history of american jazz is shameful (I wonder if it's because they are both suicides?). Sylvain On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:56 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > Yep, > > And still takes . . . if you count the general dismissal of his music dur= ing > his electric period by Ken Burns and Wynton Marsalis in Burns' "Jazz" > documentary. > > Nothing, except maybe Weather Report got much of a mention in the series. > > No Metheny, no McLaughlin, no Corea, no anything tainted with electricity= or > the term "fusion" . . . and most unbelievably no mention of the > contributions of any Europeans let alone Manfred Eicher and his wonderful= , > monumental label ECM. > > It's as though Jazz stopped from the mid '60s to sometime in the late '80= s > or early'90s when young gentlemen in suits started blowing horns again. > > There still seem to be plenty of style and technology nazis around. > > And there are always plenty of folks to criticize. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> Don't forget the beating Miles Davis took from the purists when he went >> electric! >> >> Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 02:22:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6927B3BE8F; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:22:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 02:22:10.0791 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F36E770:01CA14AA] Resent-Message-ID: <60FcC.A.DrC.Ut5dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:22:12 +0000 (UTC) I use this thing called a laptop computer case. It's a wonderful thing... :) Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 02:43:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2B713BE87; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <739EE0F4-25C9-4875-B8BE-BB3439500F21@charter.net> <2871c3a90908031921m3ff9568ex52c03cb3b47aff17@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:42:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 02:42:33.0540 (UTC) FILETIME=[38079840:01CA14AD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:43:27 +0000 (UTC) And Bill Evans...that's what chapped my ass about the Ken Burned documentary.... ----- Original Message ----- (rant alert) Yeah don't get me started on that Ken Burns documentary... How can you leave out Frank Rosolino and J.J. Johnson from the history of jazz... It's like leaving out the trombone entirely... which is what they did... They mention Kid Ory, showcase Jack Teagarden (singing not playing his horn), do a small piece on Glenn Miller (as a great band leader) and we hear some snippets from Dorsey... But really, all great jazz comes out of saxophones and trumpets? The real insult comes at the very end of the film when we get a roll call of all the great players carrying on the torch, and not one of them a trombone player... I could name at least half a dozen great players right now that deserve some attention, but don't get nearly enough in part because they don't play sax or trumpet, in fact I will: Nils Wogram Wycliffe Gordon Ray Anderson Nils Landgren Lucien Barbarin Robin Eubanks (check out his looping with his band EB3) and those are only some players active these days... leaving out Frank Rosolino and J.J. Johnson from a comprehensive history of american jazz is shameful (I wonder if it's because they are both suicides?). Sylvain On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:56 PM, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > Yep, > > And still takes . . . if you count the general dismissal of his music > during > his electric period by Ken Burns and Wynton Marsalis in Burns' "Jazz" > documentary. > > Nothing, except maybe Weather Report got much of a mention in the series. > > No Metheny, no McLaughlin, no Corea, no anything tainted with electricity > or > the term "fusion" . . . and most unbelievably no mention of the > contributions of any Europeans let alone Manfred Eicher and his wonderful, > monumental label ECM. > > It's as though Jazz stopped from the mid '60s to sometime in the late '80s > or early'90s when young gentlemen in suits started blowing horns again. > > There still seem to be plenty of style and technology nazis around. > > And there are always plenty of folks to criticize. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> Don't forget the beating Miles Davis took from the purists when he went >> electric! >> >> Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 02:44:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77D6B3BE8F; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1249353893; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=E/HxKfHW9CEElG/ho7fcN57NZt0=; b=iUUCr3lEOVfs5SEBqCiIrzk90tOsFuo0YJXGl2PkF8qxy+brzsFEvGDc2GwoT5px H4gFm8m7UhMIAWj65fKQe53KG10dcuZEvQySKyFacyBMvD+l+YKMFIoMNCu77kTK; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7xAXhyfljxgA:10 a=zQiYORMAAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=bjhiOcLuyqhnIDc-MzoA:9 a=g6uLrvoaXxNEMH0_MTxN1JcJ9_EA:4 a=BAJq6lBvVEoA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:44:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <2zeEe.A.fnD.mC6dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:44:54 +0000 (UTC) sigh, you guys have about got me on this lappy thing. Did I say that? arrgh! A whole roomfull of gear in a tiny box. And I hear what you people can do with them! I am just wondering if I have enough time left for the learning curve..sigh :) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? >I use this thing called a laptop computer case. It's a wonderful thing... >:) > > Kris > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 03:09:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08C493BE91; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:09:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 03:09:19.0270 (UTC) FILETIME=[F51E8C60:01CA14B0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Easier than you think...start with a basic VST host and host something like Reaktor or your favorite VSTs, then add one of the many VST Loopers (Mobius, etc). There are so many free VSTs and free Reaktor patches, that you won't have to do any programming. If you can drag and drop in a computer, and tweak virtual nobs, you can create a laptop system. The problem I see is that people go laptop and bight off more than they can chew...try to over-engineer their setup...then they are irriated when their system has all sorts of performances issues. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > sigh, you guys have about got me on this lappy thing. Did I say that? > arrgh! A whole roomfull of gear in a tiny box. And I hear what you people > can do with them! I am just wondering if I have enough time left for the > learning curve..sigh :) > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krispen Hartung" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? > > >>I use this thing called a laptop computer case. It's a wonderful thing... >>:) >> >> Kris >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 03:17:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43C2B3BEA9; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1249355843; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=nMv/k9ZIbXR3WIBkGo9hYzZDur0=; b=RJomRU+bcnN3FXcW8U7binWuH/ETSeFU7+N83UMQFxw8ZgRh2pVETbS10IopM+V9 uWRVZ+rmBBIv2YObxreyTzxmzloqrph/An2ysiyywl/YyIOr5YdgM+F3LJtJfMGy; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7xAXhyfljxgA:10 a=zQiYORMAAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=wEsCtA87UeWRaTunD2UA:9 a=fQNi5MXk3A60JIMzEVhKP4a7KfUA:4 a=BAJq6lBvVEoA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:17:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Kris, Don't be suprised if by next year I am writing this group for info on this. Mobius is just amazing from what I have heard done with it. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:09 PM Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? > Easier than you think...start with a basic VST host and host something > like Reaktor or your favorite VSTs, then add one of the many VST Loopers > (Mobius, etc). There are so many free VSTs and free Reaktor patches, that > you won't have to do any programming. If you can drag and drop in a > computer, and tweak virtual nobs, you can create a laptop system. > > The problem I see is that people go laptop and bight off more than they > can chew...try to over-engineer their setup...then they are irriated when > their system has all sorts of performances issues. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> sigh, you guys have about got me on this lappy thing. Did I say that? >> arrgh! A whole roomfull of gear in a tiny box. And I hear what you people >> can do with them! I am just wondering if I have enough time left for the >> learning curve..sigh :) >> >> Jeff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Krispen Hartung" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:22 PM >> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? >> >> >>>I use this thing called a laptop computer case. It's a wonderful thing... >>>:) >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 03:50:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF1D93BE95; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249357810; bh=Fk1SJJl7xoa9qHEBBqvHR8cmiI9zwHoyUsScyMXiCIk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bkJPGzDnVtkasHwawxmX/fImnDPdrAKIckn7rQKR52Hy8Kx+rdHgJfpDMaK9s3XAmV6fpH6zJIwqB60miN7LpMqduqZhxLkXsgrKfoQCdlgxQELpj0kBk2q0KG/E/ClwyEdljS2MWcJTGOsWnkP0teMTFQ0sbCH7V0jDIeRmasw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UHi8aeVYPlmBR3/0iS8OIpX8AMssFnLbCf8WNj3o3KZiBP22wjb5Q7tUJJAVltJJZfVXHlkKGeQjbZAfC5zGNx4uza4U1BO0tayP2mZ2SxIdLuX8ujhbQtcB6swsc0I57+L1HBWrW1X2wthZDh6y/8nEdeMIxfSLNeBGEwcPnwI=; Message-ID: <935809.22851.qm@web39207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qSvPZO4VM1l0NCYie_5A97T8tQIrqgx1TAMpM7H6sR58kNebmAY.2w5UoGVPM81nmMYiEnz8WD9CRxiJAUliOb0_SgiY2oBX4NEHNtk_YDz21tQ5UItM8883w7wBDWFGLcllk3qZzKqzfyaLG1EDeqdcSiLDEzwhvtqToUGDNgcCWEW3JaLpKnJDmaxqofB.OstgXKVZm2lAv24LXclH48p067AUNn9sVJqxhTPpA40g0fwPx.L5wEZVKW0csVA4sVHKUx3ScKKwXaDwdzv7rjy16ZncEKoeRbDN5eJ6awaGXOkybkL5f1lQAPDnXAxlYyr7dLkz3PliZofMv222p1aI1npsrlGYa5k1SfLsK0YU2ASuOqJfdt4rqSvNN2w- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:50:10 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1859646832-1249357810=:22851" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:50:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-1859646832-1249357810=:22851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for all the responses guys....good to know I'm not the only one putt= ing up with this crap.....think I'll put your posts in a file and go back t= o them...when i run into a similar scenario again=A0 ;-} Kyle=20 =A0 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 --0-1859646832-1249357810=:22851 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 OK... My Looping friends......tell me some=20 story's.....i just got trashed by some acoustic purists at a gig = because=20 of my looping....evidently because i loop it disqualifies me as = a "real"=20 player.....I'd like to hear your experiences with this kind of=20 bigot

Kyle

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http://www.myspace.com/kyl= edeanpatten         =20



thanks for all the responses guys....good to = know I'm not the only one putting up with this crap.....think I'll put your= posts in a file and go back to them...when i run into a similar scenario a= gain  ;-}

Kyle

 
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--0-1859646832-1249357810=:22851-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 04:01:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA1233BE94; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [76.103.252.64] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: "LoppersDelightMailingList" Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:01:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C3_01CA147D.8EA6BD00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 04:01:39.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[44E70810:01CA14B8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:01:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01CA147D.8EA6BD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I get razzed it for everything that makes me different. I get more grief = about all the gear. Apparently for us guitar players, there's pedal size = and count limits. Apparently "real" players plug direct into an amp the = size of my car. The guys at my local guitar store thought I was a freak = for asking for a MIDI cable. Folks here bash guitar to MIDI. The only = comment that has hurt so far: "I could unplug one of your leads and = you'd never find it" That one was too true.=20 Cheers, -Ty www.soundclick.com\TygermanGrooveBand ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01CA147D.8EA6BD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I get razzed it for everything that makes me=20 different. I get more grief about all the gear. = Apparently for us=20 guitar players, there's pedal size and = count limits. Apparently "real"=20 players plug direct into an amp the size of my car. The guys = at my=20 local guitar store thought I was a freak for asking for a MIDI=20 cable. Folks here bash guitar to MIDI. The only=20 comment that has hurt so far: "I could unplug one of your leads and = you'd never=20 find it" That one was too true.
Cheers,
-Ty
www.soundclick.com\= TygermanGrooveBand
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01CA147D.8EA6BD00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 04:03:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AED393BEB2; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:02:49 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:03:14 +0000 (UTC) At 11:47 AM -0700 8/3/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >For triggering everything else I find an actual midi keyboard to be >worlds better. Almost as if it were designed for it from the start. >;) Equal and opposite viewpoint here: I go back & forth between praising and demonizing good old Bob Moog for attaching a keyboard to his famous synthesizers. I want to praise him because attaching something people were familiar with to this alien noise machine arguably did more to popularize it than any other innovation. I want to beat him, though, because that's inadvertently stuck us with the dominant playing paradigm of "synthesizer = organ" for almost a half-century now. I still wonder what this world would be like if someone like Buchla -- with his wonderful whacked-out interfaces -- had become the dominant force in the field back in its formative years of the 60's-70's, rather than Moog. Anyway, I've been playing keyboards and synthesizers for over 30 years. And for the past decade I've tried my hardest to use almost any controller *except* a keyboard for user input. Frankly, for most sounds, I HATE using a keyboard and find it the least expressive interface out there for most of my purposes (with the caveat that traditional keyboard instruments -- like piano -- are usually better played with a keyboard). I've had guitar- and wind-controllers since the '80s. And in terms of expressiveness, I really prefer both of them over traditional keyboard-controllers. There's an organic quality that's a lot more difficult to get if you're dealing with an interface that's not much more than a glorified set of buttons. I've got many, many synths that take on a completely different (and interesting!) character merely because I've switched to using a different type of control interface. Occasionally I'll use a keyboard for something relatively simple/sterile like a 303-style bass line or, for convenience's sake, to quickly audition sounds, but little else. At 7:48 PM +0200 8/3/09, Christo Jota wrote: > >But even with that you have to concentrate a lot on playing very accurate. >Otherwise you hear wrong notes very soon. >This was the same when I still used the Roland GR 33 guitar >synthesizer with an external Midi pick up. Those permanent wrong >notes inbetween drove me crazy and made me selling the gear. It kept >me from having fun playing guitar. I completely agree, however, with the frustration over the typical Roland-style "pitch-to-glitch" MIDI tracking. I'm using this now merely as a matter of convenience (most of my gear is in storage, waiting for us to save enough cash to bring it over). But I've never been so impressed with that architecture and, for monophonic lines, will often now just use my WX-11 wind-controller instead. My continuing weapon-of-choice for guitar-controllers is still the Yamaha G-10/G-10C setup. I've had one since about '89 and still swear by it. Best points: Nearly flawless tracking. I've rarely been able to get it to glitch due to playing style. Admittedly, I'm not the world's fastest guitarist by any means. So I've had it test-driven by friends who are traditional 'shredders' and they couldn't get it to glitch either. There's a reason they call this the 'poor man's Synthaxe'. It's also more configurable (tunings, splits, curves, etc.) than most other MIDI controllers. Once the G10 and the synth module are properly set up together (it takes a little work to get a combination to gel) it becomes much more like playing a single organic instrument than a MIDI synth. Worst points: It's a MIDI controller, not a true guitar. While it uses real guitar strings, all six are the same .016 ("G") gauge and are all tuned to the same note. This takes a little while to get used to, and it has a tendency to freak out some traditional guitar folk. The feel is different (because all the strings are the same) so novices often get lost on the fretboard. And you *have* to listen through the MIDI module output; listening to the strings themselves sounds like a jangly mess. It took me about a week to get used to it, but many guitarists don't give it that much chance. Also, it looks like a damn boat oar, or a laser rifle, so the "I look cool wearing this" factor goes right out the window. On a more practical note, the controller module is heavy as hell. Get ready to pay some overweight baggage fees if you're flying. The biggest downside for me, though, is that the Yamaha's getting to be "vintage" equipment, so I have to spend nearly as much time maintaining it as playing. That's another reason why I dedicate more time these days to VG synthesis than true MIDI guitar. --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 04:09:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 012B53BEAE; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:09:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 04:09:26.0448 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B2A3B00:01CA14B9] Resent-Message-ID: <1OZDTC.A.E_G.2R7dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Well, I haven't used Mobius for over a year (since I use a custom max/msp randomized looper), but for when I was doing traditional looping, Mobius is just an ideal and amazing tool. I just can't believe Jeff provides it for free. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Thanks Kris, > > Don't be suprised if by next year I am writing this group for info on > this. Mobius is just amazing from what I have heard done with it. > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krispen Hartung" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:09 PM > Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? > > >> Easier than you think...start with a basic VST host and host something >> like Reaktor or your favorite VSTs, then add one of the many VST Loopers >> (Mobius, etc). There are so many free VSTs and free Reaktor patches, >> that you won't have to do any programming. If you can drag and drop in a >> computer, and tweak virtual nobs, you can create a laptop system. >> >> The problem I see is that people go laptop and bight off more than they >> can chew...try to over-engineer their setup...then they are irriated when >> their system has all sorts of performances issues. >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>> sigh, you guys have about got me on this lappy thing. Did I say that? >>> arrgh! A whole roomfull of gear in a tiny box. And I hear what you >>> people can do with them! I am just wondering if I have enough time left >>> for the learning curve..sigh :) >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Krispen Hartung" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? >>> >>> >>>>I use this thing called a laptop computer case. It's a wonderful >>>>thing... :) >>>> >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 04:51:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E94F63BEB2; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z9w2h9f8X6s0IjCLS4LFw/JxblWBbEcNoa0kva49qXM=; b=nY8hlqdhI96DWvyl3xgL83zRxo/dSsK3+hPQif/Ldl9fGkJgesehq1rhpxFdOoM4k9 3vKU4qSC3jdSDNIfaiUGq8ZZWdWg7n+JPOLwwqzYezqobDk9Kvq4b+o39jwTYp9qIY9M DiChRG76+nmTZMF5dg5lbNspkgnB1NXuB10po= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FPAjMwRnkfkcYErVDhhhHSAHV4oW02LvWaK3OziABhirjAbV8VHcn2d7i9vpZLjhFp Xe33Dw6bbynfDaj4GcOQHLwRDbpbVVTXfp7+oGvO9uQ1XlEy2CZuHO0y4vyhSNAWMHNY utC/YPOcKgs87WYDRw4OhT6tTjZiUDfR/2AB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:51:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2cHVr.A.Ra.547dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:51:05 +0000 (UTC) OK, I'll jump in. I use a Chrome laptop bag. Couldn't find a link to it on line, I guess Chrome discontinued it but it's pretty beefy and well padded. Nice. I'll echo Krispen's sentiments. He and Per helped me a lot as I think I was a few months behind Krispen's venture into laptop land. It's really not rocket science. When I hear what half of you do in terms of audio and midi routing I think you'll find that the laptop setup, while not without it's issues, is simpler and easier to get. A $60 duffle bag for my guitar, keyboard, Stealthpedal (control and i/o) and an FCB1010 and the laptop bag and that's it. Plug me into a PA and I'm done. It's pretty amazing. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wr= ote: > Well, I haven't used Mobius for over a year (since I use a custom max/msp > randomized looper), but for when I was doing traditional looping, Mobius = is > just an ideal and amazing tool. I just can't believe Jeff provides it for > free. :) > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> Thanks Kris, >> >> Don't be suprised if by next year I am writing this group for info on >> this. Mobius is just amazing from what I have heard done with it. >> >> Jeff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" >> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:09 PM >> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? >> >> >>> Easier than you think...start with a basic VST host and host something >>> like Reaktor or your favorite VSTs, then add one of the many VST Looper= s >>> (Mobius, etc). =A0There are so many free VSTs and free Reaktor patches,= that >>> you won't have to do any programming. =A0If you can drag and drop in a >>> computer, and tweak virtual nobs, you can create a laptop system. >>> >>> The problem I see is that people go laptop and bight off more than they >>> can chew...try to over-engineer their setup...then they are irriated wh= en >>> their system has all sorts of performances issues. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> sigh, you guys have about got me on this lappy thing. Did I say that? >>>> arrgh! A whole roomfull of gear in a tiny box. And I hear what you peo= ple >>>> can do with them! I am just wondering if I have enough time left for t= he >>>> learning curve..sigh :) >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:22 PM >>>> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? >>>> >>>> >>>>> I use this thing called a laptop computer case. It's a wonderful >>>>> thing... :) >>>>> >>>>> Kris >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 06:16:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 066A13BEB6; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-476433455 Message-Id: <3D5E7B5D-32F5-4D1E-8A4C-34B4878D855B@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:16:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:16:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-476433455 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Don't forget the beating Miles Davis took from the purists when he > went electric! > > Jeff I wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo Marcero employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of Bitches Brew,etc. Speaking of that, here is some inspirational reading. Enjoy... http://milesite.blogspot.com/2009/02/teo-macero-on-producing-miles- davis.html Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-1-476433455 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Aug 3, 2009, at = 6:41 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

Don't forget the beating Miles Davis took from the purists = when he went electric!
 
Jeff

I wonder = how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo Marcero employed = a lot of looping in the over all creation of Bitches = Brew,etc.

Speaking of that, here is some = inspirational reading.  Enjoy...


Cheers,
Rev = Fever

= --Apple-Mail-1-476433455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 06:31:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8CAC3BEC3; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <3D5E7B5D-32F5-4D1E-8A4C-34B4878D855B@ubergadget.com> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <3D5E7B5D-32F5-4D1E-8A4C-34B4878D855B@ubergadget.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-477312311 Message-Id: From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo (correction) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:30:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:31:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-477312311 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Er... I meant, Macero, and not Marcero. (red faced typo) :-) On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:16 PM, Rev Fever wrote: > I wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo > Marcero employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of > Bitches Brew,etc. > > Speaking of that, here is some inspirational reading. Enjoy... > > http://milesite.blogspot.com/2009/02/teo-macero-on-producing-miles- > davis.html > Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-1-477312311 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Er... I meant, Macero, and not = Marcero. (red faced typo) :-)

On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:16 = PM, Rev Fever wrote:

I = wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo Marcero = employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of Bitches = Brew,etc.

Speaking of that, here is some = inspirational reading.  Enjoy...


= --Apple-Mail-1-477312311-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 07:08:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 103243BEC2; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:08:44 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908030113y1122a9f3w16c9dea23c048fba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090804070844.300730@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090802171559.133000@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0908021434n6e9cd890u99900cf4fb8660bb@mail.gmail.com> <20090803080004.112050@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0908030113y1122a9f3w16c9dea23c048fba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Does Mainstage + Ableton make sense? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+zU7Uri4Wz98wjbn2633IC0ZOsxscDzHLYs4JV0h dqwdLLbO47ZfLO3XsTzdtEGemzbdqKbIlmRg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: HbcCeU1AODB6KMN6iGVMorw9Ji9SWpJk X-FuHaFi: 0.73 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > ReWire is supported by both Live 8 and Mainstage 2. Not by Mainstage 1 Once the new Logic 9 and Mac Snow Leopard are both out (and possibly patched), I will get both and do a fresh install on my Mac. best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 07:13:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 760283BEB6; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:09 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <262578.46646.qm@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090804071309.300690@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <262578.46646.qm@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/bmS4Q6Nzb+ReQZ8sf0U3YpkawfOpFWnQcFWlHqu /o7WwpmWou/nRZq3IStn1s/D1hzIVelOGPQQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: tO1RYlzSLi50aYE/kWppIZVrZml1ZBhR X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi Akim > Also, if you don't like the drum loops on the Boss pedal, you can actually > replace them with your own sounds etc... I was actually curious: Is there really a way to replace the Ryhthm Guide (HiHat etc.) samples or did you just mean the pre-installed demo loops? Best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 07:17:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D2353BED0; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:17:02 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090804071702.300700@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090803162707.B00C93BF39@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: RC 50 tempo change To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19MlAZopZ1M7H5yi0rBaMAuHZcqF2+fHAGS8W+Ubb 54PR6m9f/globFfc7MaTupzA0CHc9BihMObA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: WdhCfj0/RkkNE91hiGVqsZJudWkvKBPr X-FuHaFi: 0.7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi Denis the bottom-line on the RC-50 for me seems to be: Rhythm-only tempo changes are "ok", if you have long sustained sounds or even vocals - it doesn't properly work (unless you are looking for that particular wobbly sound). best regards Buzap PS: So many RC-50 postings... - I'm happy :-) -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 07:19:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73CD23BED5; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249370379; bh=1ljAgGiftrYU/qXJpnCaJIlSDml8zH+ru4eHY/zMNo0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OnQyYKQTKcj6Euy5as0lYsrguYd3wT2oDM5ixmn9RkCuLRH/vWe9cMJpcdsdGmh/GZQObdqBMLOyhCdPmtm67rWXgI/b3AUXUx9nYj4vA75SrobQLrquIz0P8V/eT+CKrx+FA2FnWpv481lO/qxRuszTY7/RJXw4ZrGdvEDfxI4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GfpariW2aB5LadQ5Pqd+mhcMroGoPBkOh8Xr9C6KbnSRkBdWIBDcEXGwR8d86XsGLN1zRvSvBaBeJn0Y+NMWxXMwX+u77Gg1aKBhXGYm7wpxeHadQQwr9RzvGmKmkf04+B5xWe4jISbwR3K8BrkVN+1uDXTTx7as4VfWzbrKJlA=; Message-ID: <81611.65862.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:19:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kyle,=0Ai while ago i started a thread called "Loopers hard questions" b= ecause of this same reason,there are closed minded purists out there who wi= ll go out of their way even before you play to put you down (and yes im tal= king about musicians)=0AA while ago i had a looping gig and i invited a mus= ician friend of mine who does not loop and is quite a purist in the songwri= tting sense.The next day he wrote me to tell me his thoughts of how crap th= is whole looping thing he thinks it is,hiding talent behind gear,antisocial= musician etc.etc.etc.=0Athen again this same guy admires me as a musican t= hough and even hires me to play for him and he loves Andrew Birds music;-)= =0AI think for the most part a lot of them base their opinions on their per= sonal musical preference and conservative views of how music should be perf= ormed,either people like it or not wether you are looping or not.In general= though my experience has been postive with this,some people are curious ab= out it,some people dont get it,some people think you are using playbacks,ot= hers dont care what you are using and some people just sit there and critic= ise it.Is almost as biased as somebody saying playing with a band is better= than alone;-)=0AA guy who saw once play liked it so much that he went and = recomended me to a pub owner in a town about 100km away from here,,so he c= ame and saw me personally at the following gig,i was doing my own songs and= some covers but with abstract looping at times.I went to his pub once and = he has a lot of blues duos who entertain the audience by telling stories in= german dialects.He never called me so i obviously did not fit his bill,tha= nk god!=0ALuis=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Zoe Keating <= info@zoekeating.com> schrieb am Mo, 3.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Zoe Keating =0A> Betreff: Re: anti-looper bigots=0A> An: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 3. August 2009, 16:40=0A> bwa ha h= a! i've totally heard=0A> that!=0A> Acoustic Music Series in San Diego thin= ks the=0A> same thing of me. i heard through the grapevine (i.e fan=0A> mai= l) that they won't have me back because of the=0A> looping (although their = concerts are amplified and many=0A> guitarists perform there with looping p= edals)=0A> my advice: IGNORE THEM. i don't even respond=0A> to that kind of= thing=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:06 PM, K D Patten=0A> w= rote:=0A> =A0OK... My Looping=0A> friends......tell me some story's.....i j= ust got trashed=0A> by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my=0A> loo= ping....evidently because i loop it disqualifies me as a=0A> "real" player.= ....I'd like to hear your=0A> experiences with this kind of bigot=0A> =0A> = Kyle =0A> =0A> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=0A> =0A> http://www.myspac= e.com/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 07:59:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 054CF3BEBA; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 237057997/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.234.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.234.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiABAJuHd0pPTuo9/2dsb2JhbAAI1CyEGAWKFg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,320,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="237057997" Message-ID: <4A77EDEF.6050409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:14:39 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> In-Reply-To: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Christo Jota wrote: > About 10 days ago I got a Sonuus G2M - Guitar to midi converter > (monophonic). > My impressions after checking it out are: > The fast, accurate not tracking which is advertised in the manual is not > possible. I mainly use it for soft snyth-sounds . Not for fast playing > notes. > Just to give my guitar playing a smooth backing sound. Like a melotron etc. > But even with that you have to concentrate a lot on playing very accurate. > Otherwise you hear wrong notes very soon The Sonuus isn't the fastest tracking device around, but it's very playable, and is exceptionally glitch resistant. I'm afraid you just have to learn to damp the other 5 strings while playing a note if you want it to behave. You could always attach some sort of mechanical damping at the nut to stop the open strings ringing in the same way that the guys who do 2 handed tapping do. > > I also checked the pitch-bend advise from the manual, but it didn´t help: > " to ensure that the midi sounds are correctly in tune > with the guitar, you have to ensure the Midi patch is set to a pitch-bend > range of + - 2 semitones." "set the pitch bend range in your *synth* to 2 semitones". If you've been using those patches with another midi controller, likely they'll be set to 12 semitones. ...and any note bend would be exaggerated by 6x That's a drawback with the simplicity of the Sonuus, because pitch bend is 2 semitones it means if you bend a note *just* past that limit you get a re-trigger. andy ps. Per, the Sonuus is *mono* From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 08:34:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90AF73BED2; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_45b1634f-13c2-4fcf-a142-d65e3253cbeb_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.148.10] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: what cases do you use for your looping gear? Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:34:32 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 08:34:32.0251 (UTC) FILETIME=[63C328B0:01CA14DE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:34:33 +0000 (UTC) --_45b1634f-13c2-4fcf-a142-d65e3253cbeb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i built 2 cases and i bought 2 cases- dunno how they compare...but check out marathon cases....was pretty darn ch= eap..... infact it was cheaper to buy it than to build it- they use quality handles / latches.... only problem ive had is the threadin= g for the screws is sometimes funked up......i returned 1 case free of char= ge for this reason.... > Date: Mon=2C 3 Aug 2009 21:51:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? > From: zerocrossing@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > OK=2C I'll jump in. I use a Chrome laptop bag. Couldn't find a link > to it on line=2C I guess Chrome discontinued it but it's pretty beefy > and well padded. Nice. >=20 > I'll echo Krispen's sentiments. He and Per helped me a lot as I think > I was a few months behind Krispen's venture into laptop land. It's > really not rocket science. When I hear what half of you do in terms > of audio and midi routing I think you'll find that the laptop setup=2C > while not without it's issues=2C is simpler and easier to get. >=20 > A $60 duffle bag for my guitar=2C keyboard=2C Stealthpedal (control and > i/o) and an FCB1010 and the laptop bag and that's it. Plug me into a > PA and I'm done. It's pretty amazing. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon=2C Aug 3=2C 2009 at 9:09 PM=2C Krispen Hartung wrote: > > Well=2C I haven't used Mobius for over a year (since I use a custom max= /msp > > randomized looper)=2C but for when I was doing traditional looping=2C M= obius is > > just an ideal and amazing tool. I just can't believe Jeff provides it f= or > > free. :) > > > > Kris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> Thanks Kris=2C > >> > >> Don't be suprised if by next year I am writing this group for info on > >> this. Mobius is just amazing from what I have heard done with it. > >> > >> Jeff > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" > >> > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday=2C August 03=2C 2009 11:09 PM > >> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? > >> > >> > >>> Easier than you think...start with a basic VST host and host somethin= g > >>> like Reaktor or your favorite VSTs=2C then add one of the many VST Lo= opers > >>> (Mobius=2C etc). There are so many free VSTs and free Reaktor patche= s=2C that > >>> you won't have to do any programming. If you can drag and drop in a > >>> computer=2C and tweak virtual nobs=2C you can create a laptop system. > >>> > >>> The problem I see is that people go laptop and bight off more than th= ey > >>> can chew...try to over-engineer their setup...then they are irriated = when > >>> their system has all sorts of performances issues. > >>> > >>> Kris > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > >>>> sigh=2C you guys have about got me on this lappy thing. Did I say th= at? > >>>> arrgh! A whole roomfull of gear in a tiny box. And I hear what you p= eople > >>>> can do with them! I am just wondering if I have enough time left for= the > >>>> learning curve..sigh :) > >>>> > >>>> Jeff > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" > >>>> > >>>> To: > >>>> Sent: Monday=2C August 03=2C 2009 10:22 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I use this thing called a laptop computer case. It's a wonderful > >>>>> thing... :) > >>>>> > >>>>> Kris > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DPID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR= _sync:082009= --_45b1634f-13c2-4fcf-a142-d65e3253cbeb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i built 2 cases and i bought 2 cases-
dunno how they compare...but check= out marathon cases....was pretty darn cheap..... infact it was cheaper to = buy it than to build it-
they use quality handles / latches.... only pro= blem ive had is the threading for the screws is sometimes funked up......i = returned 1 case free of charge for this reason....





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>=3B Subject: Re: wha= t cases do you use for your looping gear?
>=3B From: zerocrossing@gmai= l.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>= =3B OK=2C I'll jump in. I use a Chrome laptop bag. Couldn't find a link<= br>>=3B to it on line=2C I guess Chrome discontinued it but it's pretty b= eefy
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>=3B I'll echo Krisp= en's sentiments. He and Per helped me a lot as I think
>=3B I was a f= ew months behind Krispen's venture into laptop land. It's
>=3B really= not rocket science. When I hear what half of you do in terms
>=3B of= audio and midi routing I think you'll find that the laptop setup=2C
>= =3B while not without it's issues=2C is simpler and easier to get.
>= =3B
>=3B A $60 duffle bag for my guitar=2C keyboard=2C Stealthpedal (= control and
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>=3B >=3B ----- Original = Message -----
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>=3B >=3B>=3B Thanks Kris=2C<= br>>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Don't be suprised if by next = year I am writing this group for info on
>=3B >=3B>=3B this. Mobiu= s is just amazing from what I have heard done with it.
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>=3B >=3B>=3B Jeff
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>= =3B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung"
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B <=3Binfo@krispenhartung.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B To: <=3BL= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Sent: Monda= y=2C August 03=2C 2009 11:09 PM
>=3B >=3B>=3B Subject: Re: what ca= ses do you use for your looping gear?
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Easier than you think...start with a= basic VST host and host something
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>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B>=3B (Mobius=2C etc).  =3BThere are so many free VSTs and = free Reaktor patches=2C that
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>=3B >=3B= >=3B>=3B computer=2C and tweak virtual nobs=2C you can create a laptop = system.
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B The probl= em I see is that people go laptop and bight off more than they
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>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B their system has all sorts of = performances issues.
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>= =3B Kris
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B ----- Or= iginal Message -----
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>= =3B>=3B sigh=2C you guys have about got me on this lappy thing. Did I say= that?
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>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B Jeff
>=3B >=3B&= gt=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B ----- Original Message= ----- From: "Krispen Hartung"
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B <=3Binf= o@krispenhartung.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B To: <=3BLoo= pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B S= ent: Monday=2C August 03=2C 2009 10:22 PM
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>= =3B Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear?
>=3B >= =3B>=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B I use this thing called a laptop computer case. It's= a wonderful
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 08:48:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BB2D3BED3; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249375733; bh=i2zt7ZfIJxTIuQFdGtalro/h+guqwbLcDbVyXBpU5Eg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=joQS8muvg9FVBsr/Weihyza/HtsLeHVVaSYlsmWTIyJTHtW7YholXpD9//hHJVtKROl17eF1P+Rc87py2LejxeU5qDM5v8CMDmjc7sKoeFCJKGalwHSdYIt7K4NhxGYE2pbsPp7wT5jUPCoPZipA82+F6vzMUnD5vlgW4rPUJxg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y2PG57bYLD1PJ6JwnvDTAGZo6J6dK8+I6RDUX2ENMPaJ9vgqz+1AXPiM9jzpeLNbHHU2GO/FyuiYk6zY7JeqO7NrZB3jSehrpDLgVRhprakvJpkEqonCtvXV3AUyFs8JONwhVCebU0B8kRYnV8OlFN0MPxHIHtlb55MnNUwnIlo=; Message-ID: <309408.39430.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OVzPU9cVM1lPxvUad9wp50_30Xce5.QUqqZc_UO_13Je4J248vGK_5o0oCkdweWUAOjp3.vwBSI0sTJyemKZwwYuuoBjAlW0Cny.Jr9ilnjk43m9CVdcJYiX1UCdnEjQbmsv6irDsCMtHGxeAlIG1ARXSnXYpMNaW6r9P9IZTdkk3bpTPTwM.M9atTOaUE6F.MUbpAmGfQAchQ4oFKh9zmJJF1xQgT.x8VAnhaVdpoPT1CVoBBxd0842yn2zoYQLcvLiPc7OxtbA4kmXATFrrt0nVSBHucbR49Nw1BpqOmvRIuMtADE4ZXQCM6_mLQKqoA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:48:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Petepong Phasukyud Subject: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-477399370-1249375733=:39430" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:48:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-477399370-1249375733=:39430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I fall in love with the LOOP things after watch some youtubes. I wanna use = it with my voice, only voice no other instument. Then, I found this social! hahaha So, I wanna testing some of it. However in Thailand there's only Boss - ex.= RC-50 RC20XL and Digitech Jamman to try in the shop I don't wanna get too advance gear but if it's worth for creating loops and= maybe live performance, I will.=20 Gibson EDP will be my top list but just only it's a bit expensive for begin= ner like me who's not that sure about looping life that much and I'm wonder if it's too advance or complicate than RC-50 or JAMMAN or no= t. (I prefer Jamman if compare to RC20XL just because of the XLR for microp= hone) about the RC-20 and Akai Headrush I've read many review and it's not so sui= table with the vocal looper? Are they right? or I should try these 2 little gears before purchase EDP? damn,I don't know which one suit for me. Can you guys suggest me? Pete ,=A0 Bangkok P.S.I try to figure used stuff from ebay, craiglist,yahoo Is there anywhere= I can find in cyber? I have friend in Chicago and Indiana. =0A=0A=0A --0-477399370-1249375733=:39430 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I fall in love with the LOOP things after wat= ch some youtubes. I wanna use it with my voice, only voice no other instume= nt.

Then, I found this social! hahaha

So, I wanna testing som= e of it. However in Thailand there's only Boss - ex.RC-50 RC20XL
and Dig= itech Jamman to try in the shop

I don't wanna get too advance gear b= ut if it's worth for creating loops and maybe live performance, I will.
Gibson EDP will be my top list but just only it's a bit expensive for = beginner like me who's not that sure about looping life that much
and I'= m wonder if it's too advance or complicate than RC-50 or JAMMAN or not. (I = prefer Jamman if compare to RC20XL just because of the XLR for microphone)<= br>
about the RC-20 and Akai Headrush I've read many review and it's not= so suitable with the vocal looper? Are they right?

or I should try these 2 little gears before purchase EDP?

damn,I don't know which o= ne suit for me.

Can you guys suggest me?

Pete ,  Bangkok=

P.S.I try to figure used stuff from ebay, craiglist,yahoo Is there = anywhere I can find in cyber? I have friend in Chicago and Indiana.

=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-477399370-1249375733=:39430-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 09:12:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56EAD3BED5; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249377134; bh=GpKv1ahzsQ3wC2fofuUcOb7aucv29kJFdEn6tJsFkhE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Yei4Jm3XxtNcf6cOSAYCmZpcu0eLUs1bdhsSH2mHC98IJ8pbdL2EoSYcL6OYIIJ9lCD8ZQF7jbO6iDgo9VY8J/UB3o+lLowhaR0Z5yK7ek4/puk3PSzwv4Q3WEgLDUbxYnGBBJ9DcRJ905z56VSoO8jG0T6Wy3GRegVZYdz0WLA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZmAa+RdQa86ZxEC9QB83wFvQg1VCvEhxGQo3+pqKN1XNxtbVzoMSYs2JHzIaINTSurtgxka6mm0sPDeTGvfQQLN4dBL7oh+SoCTIh+QeWextY8oMIFLRbhiJQ5fdQ44pdP0fPB7Y5W9RgoLSGGJcepgXpbk+XUbw1+S+xX1URhY=; Message-ID: <891696.76216.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:12:14 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A777C51.7000506@Verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2jM48C.A.YhC.wt_dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:12:16 +0000 (UTC) ive always thought competition is great in a lot of areas but when it comes= to art and music it seems very ackward to me...is like the many nonsense d= ebates of who is the best hard rock band Black Sabbath, AC DC or Led Zeppel= in;-)=0AI guess what turns me off about this boss loopers is the fuction of= trying to correct your timing and those drum loops... though you can turn = them off and still be really creative no doubt,unfortunetly this are the on= es being mass produced and used as such educating the general public to wha= t is called "looping"for a lot of people to understand what looping is you = have to layer instrument parts to form a whole band orchestra,and im not pu= tting this down at all,there are people that can really do it fantastic but= ive seen so many do it so uncreative "auto corrected" steril and cheap,you= really might as well play to preprogramed sequences,it takes less longer;-= )=0A =0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Dan Ash schrieb am Mo, 3.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Dan Ash =0A> Betreff: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 3. August 2009, 17:09=0A> > =0A> > Y= ou people were funny at first but now your guffaws of=0A> snobbery and elit= ist technocratic behaviour are really=0A> starting to take their toll...I m= ean what are "we" about=0A> here....does it have anything to do with making= music?=A0=0A> I am starting to wonder...I guess it has become=0A> unfashio= nable among the "Technocrati" to loop with a BOSS=0A> pedal...hmmmmm=0A> I = haven't been following this thread too closely, but my=0A> impression was t= hat the amusement at the Boss looping=0A> contest was due to several aspect= s of their support for=0A> looping.=A0 The comments here were generally rel= ated to=0A> mocking the idea of an olympic-style competition from a=0A> com= munity that largely has moved away from evaluating=0A> looping in terms lik= e those used in the rampant guitar=0A> 'gunslinging' phenomenon. 'Competiti= on' is largely an=0A> anachronism here on LD.=0A> =0A> Over the years Boss = product developers have been rather=0A> unresponsive to input from the loop= ing community regarding=0A> the design of their loopers - resulting in thre= e designs=0A> that don't incorporate some of the most important=0A> require= ments for looping anything other than accompaniment=0A> of pre-recorded loo= ps, or for a looping paradigm that plays=0A> a static loop over and over.= =A0 This is true of many/most=0A> of the mass-production looping products (= Digidesign is=0A> another company that comes to mind).=0A> =0A> The Boss RC= -50 is an improvement but as it turns out, a=0A> feedback control feature w= as only implemented using a=0A> technique developed and documented by a det= ermined looper=0A> (from this board, I think).=A0 My point is that they=0A>= produced design after design without supporting any more=0A> than the most= simplistic concept of what is actually=0A> available in more sophisticated= hardware or in largely free=0A> software loopers.=A0 From the top of my li= st is MIDI=0A> sync, saving a loop on the fly, upload of saved loops, and= =0A> the aforementioned feedback control. =0A> So Boss representatives migh= t well be judging contestants=0A> in gunslinging contest using tools suppor= ting a limited=0A> palette -and their designs suggest a lack of some degree= of=0A> expertise to boot.=0A> =0A> I think you will find the participants = here are overall=0A> very generous with their expertise and focused on maki= ng=0A> music.=A0 I don't even agree that the members of LD can=0A> be count= ed on to disparage gear choices of those using other=0A> units than their o= wn.=A0 Many wonderful compositions get=0A> posted here from loopers using s= imple delays, tape machines,=0A> and re-purposed musical toys.=0A> =0A> I t= hink perhaps Akim read too much into a little=0A> light-hearted fun at Boss= 's expense.=0A> =0A> Dan Ash=0A> White Plains, NY=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 09:16:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B45593BEDF; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249377376; bh=m1Cj24g8VKvck81IFpyf5qD9QBs4C2Jd4NHOV3j3q0A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1sU8oulpZ4LkgyXmO+w7SwltzD9LA45MmB/R0PVo0ktTiggi9FJzrVZgsYWpLZsKK6FgsJrIWjcivwRTXDj1SdU8yJBXD9GoF5pO7lWOUofare3ZW8O9A5LRxlHgvWzxAtZ/cqUwKOJUmMKdEb/Y8l8MuDylD4sRyo6QTbO7H2E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QLo0Mulj3NjA3jl01IPpQhhTCwL8xhoc5SZzVa18Ct94zvSqX4AvyZtfMusGujQGGjb6ro9sGYkhbIwkmu8iq51HAdlNBxBh2SjdiuHI6koTZLKBnt4V1SMEsQrrmxYSap21F2ObvV8+ZWd/9lP06qRoilZsMOdIMuMzepQnZ8M=; Message-ID: <373710.48428.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:16:16 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <520925.20129.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_Q4HED.A._pC.hx_dKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:16:17 +0000 (UTC) or the ones that thing if u use a capo on the guitar it means you cannot pl= ay;-)=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Tim Nelson schrieb am Mo, 3.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Tim Nelson =0A> Betreff: Re: anti-looper bigots=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 3. August 2009, 16:22=0A> =0A> Yeah, they usu= ally hang out with the "Modal tuning is=0A> CHEATING" crowd...=0A> =0A>=0A= =0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 09:31:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7EDD3BEDF; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=G7R5IXBsYZ6ZPmeCwN5OPzh9zKA9kbfGL5Y/87gonKU=; b=OYYez5uhDVmEddwYbShabLIg1tYI74xh8xD6Wv5ZzuyLQeBpBkvSG1KxznN4HwYRwg P9UySqnQas6LeCG8xbHmNBq95aCEcanqGaSrRbF5djwT/AEBaNl5wrLvPtmPN8gF+Pus S0942QoNig9uYWiL4qD2poEcVhYj4siCcMoO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vqpi1ubgngGekt1dzzB1xFdiv+5DbLz2W1d/LSl6gs7jb2Y7CLI5qkxnjl6CzM6fcl 7b8VqJ49d6dptomm1pXRetB3+diz6llSrQSUZVhXVRakJcfJ42+sts4lkc36JmJGNEtk +DAWpJ5mAJh3QVbMhEZZYffg/BaAyO9Kk46p8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:31:52 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908040231ubb93161re6cef58a2e19da34@mail.gmail.com> Subject: past/coming up virtual gigspam: live on uStream - Sunday Morning at 11 August 9 From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ab4086300904704d8e73 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:31:54 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ab4086300904704d8e73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just finished posting archive highlights from my July 26th live uStream webcast *Sunday Morning at 11*. This one was my most 'looped' show to date. The clips are up on my showpage at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11. Also, this weekend *Sunday, August 9, at 2pm EST*, I'm doing the next episode of *Sunday Morning at **11*, this one special in that it's going to be another duo show. In addition to Chinapainting, I have a secondary duo project called East of Where with drummer/'found' percussionist * Will Romano*. I've worked with Will since we met in 2000. East of Where has grown/shrunk since then and has steadily evolved to a improvisatory duo since 2004. Will performed with me at the Boise Experimental Music Festival as a Kyber performer in 2008, has guested with Daryl and I in Chinapainting and appeared on the recent CT-Collective project CD ReUse . Will is also a music journalist having authored two excellent bioographies on Back Beat press, one on bluesman Hubert Sumlinand the other on legendary Jimmy Reed . Please note that due to scheduling and logistics we will be doing this episode of Sunday morning in the afternoon instead of it's regular latter morning time. Also due to conflicting with friend/fellow LD'er Matt [Stevens] set, we will be doing our uStream set at 2pm EST. So here in the northeastern timezone catch us at 2pm then stick around for Matt at 3pm. Show times around the globe for Sunday Morning are * 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, **2pm EST** , 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan*. For exact times check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ Thanks and we look forward to 'connecting' with you this Sunday at 2pm EST. Jim ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5ab4086300904704d8e73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just finished posting archive highlights from my July 26th live uStream w= ebcast Sunday Morning at 11. =A0This one was my most 'looped'= ; show to date. =A0The clips are up on my showpage at http://www.ustr= eam.tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11.

Also, this weekend Sunday, August 9, at 2pm EST, I'm do= ing the next episode=A0of=A0Sunday=A0Morning=A0at=A011,=A0thi= s=A0one special=A0in=A0that=A0it's=A0going=A0to=A0be=A0another=A0duo=A0= show. =A0In=A0addition=A0to=A0Chinapainting,=A0I=A0have a secondary duo=A0p= roject=A0called=A0East=A0of=A0Where=A0with=A0drummer/'found'=A0perc= ussionist=A0Will=A0Romano.=A0=A0I've=A0worked=A0with=A0Will=A0si= nce=A0we=A0met=A0in=A02000.=A0=A0East=A0of=A0Where=A0has=A0grown/shrunk=A0since=A0then=A0and=A0has= =A0steadily=A0evolved to a=A0improvisatory=A0duo=A0since=A02004.=A0=A0Will= =A0performed=A0with=A0me at the=A0Boise=A0Experimental=A0Music=A0Festival= =A0as=A0a=A0Kyber=A0performer=A0in=A02008, has guested with Daryl and I in = Chinapainting and=A0appeared=A0on the=A0recent=A0CT-Collective=A0project=A0= CD=A0ReUse. =A0Will is also = a music journalist having authored two excellent bioographies on Back Beat = press, one on bluesman Hubert Sumlin and the other on legendary Jimmy Reed.

Please=A0note=A0that=A0due=A0to=A0scheduling=A0and=A0lo= gistics=A0we=A0will=A0be=A0doing=A0this=A0episode=A0of=A0Sunday=A0morning= =A0in=A0the=A0afternoon=A0instead=A0of=A0it's=A0regular=A0latter=A0morn= ing=A0time.=A0=A0Also=A0due=A0to=A0conflicting=A0with=A0friend/fellow=A0LD&= #39;er=A0Matt=A0[Stevens]=A0set,=A0we=A0will=A0be=A0doing=A0our=A0uStream= =A0set=A0at=A02pm=A0EST.=A0=A0So=A0here=A0in=A0the=A0northeastern=A0timezon= e=A0catch=A0us=A0at=A02pm=A0then=A0stick=A0around=A0for=A0Matt=A0at=A03pm.<= /div>

Show=A0times=A0around=A0the=A0globe=A0for=A0Sunday=A0Mo= rning=A0are=A011am=A0PST,=A012pm=A0MST,=A01pm=A0CST,=A02pm=A0E= ST,=A07pm=A0UK,=A08pm=A0western=A0Europe,=A03am=A0Japan.=A0= =A0For=A0exact=A0times=A0check=A0http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Thanks and we look forward to 'connecting' with= you this Sunday at 2pm EST.

Jim
--001636c5ab4086300904704d8e73-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 09:40:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DA4B3BEE6; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249378823; bh=0zfin/GP2qdIoY0/yzSSTJ27I2LWlTU3HGG6wWEV898=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ly7YUS5k7tDyNrUl90ZXxFZ9m8swoiuwSa9fofFFRlXskCIMm52F9GY4DFOQRnZH3Y+YCEFNVHCYNjmvlNY2zOPq5RT88XuUpYiHPQhqo7WMeTLyjMZu7Uhi1aZ+f1pDbOijIOWG0kliw9o8G8CMJxNmwtTFOC89Eexow5RgrK8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ql68gzP+EM4cALX5bVGGRK/FpbqKdHJIEAvY46vUBdN7g4xX6yoQvjVU43wFDs8sTXeRl2yDzMn6IQ9FIK1tfm2VoWD7buiuSYABWpBIyZF0YbeSWynfqBgbi3HesutPdsBpSIv0uugV8MR25bewFhgYRe2mEcIlU/24JuMLbOU=; Message-ID: <82179.96661.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:40:22 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Hi Loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7EBD03E5CE4B41A28FD398BEACA52251@a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Hi Pete,=0AI second Rcikys recomendation the DL4 i still use it as well,it = also has the bonus of being a delay modeler so you can put a delay in your = voice and loop it,there are stereo inputs so you can loop your voice and an= other instrument if u wish, check out some of the Gene videos he does an am= azing job with it.=0Acheers=0ALuis=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A= --- Ricky Graham schrieb am So, 2.8.2009:= =0A=0A> Von: Ricky Graham =0A> Betreff: Re= : Hi Loopers=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Sonntag= , 2. August 2009, 11:49=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> I'd recom= mend the Line=0A> 6 DL4. I started with it, =0A> and I still use it today.= =0A> =A0=0A> Ricky=0A> =0A> =A0=0A> ----- Original Message=0A> ----- = =0A> From: =0A> Petepong =0A> Phasukyud =0A> To: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com=0A> =0A> =0A> Sent: Sunday, August=0A> 02, 2009 6:12 = =0A> PM=0A> Subject: Hi=0A> Loopers=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> I'm a newbie looper interes= ter.=0A> =0A> Now I'm =0A> looking for some looper to exper= iment some=0A> voice (I'm a =0A> singer)=0A> =0A> I saw RC5= 0 , RC20 , Gibson EDP , Jamman , Akai =0A> Headrush E2=0A> = =0A> I don't know which one suit for me.=0A> =0A> I =0A> ju= st wanna get something not too expensive=0A> and can try many loop =0A> = as I can (,y only instrument I'm gonna=0A> use is my voice) = =0A> recording my songs - transfer to computer=0A> or recor= d to computer. =0A> Haven't think too live performance=0A> = yet.=0A> =0A> Can you guys =0A> suggest me? I have no idea = =0A> .=0A> =0A> Pete=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>= No virus found in this incoming message.=0A> Checked by AVG - =0A> www.a= vg.com =0A> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release=0A>= =0A> Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 09:46:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 886123BEE4; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:50:24 +0200 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: cases References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+VnEHIVbDK9WjrK6fSF9f8bCtlQJw50L2Vetq teDYrI3fQc+nbA6KB2MMZqMc303eXPQpdeVn4SznbB/X5wYPJl FYhIO+EzotNCqkPZhqVxTQEknhMCqDb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:46:28 +0000 (UTC) if you ever need a custom made case for wind instruments or anything else, check out howard wiseman's cases. this man is a genius. he has a tetris kind of mind. i just had my five flutes (from piccolo to contrabassflute) including stand fitted into a ridiulously small case. i can carry it easily on my shoulder, so finally i could give my old tank of a flightcase a good kick into the corner of my practice room (it's for sale, by the way - and cheap...). here's the link: http://www.wisemancases.com/ tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 09:59:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B285B3BEDB; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3606 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:59:00 UTC Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Rev Fever" Cc: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <3B8sQ.A.H2D.kZAeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:59:00 +0000 (UTC) the Rev Fevers wrote: "I wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo Marcero employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of Bitches Brew,etc. Speaking of that, here is some inspirational reading. Enjoy... http://milesite.blogspot.com/2009/02/teo-macero-on-producing-miles-davis.html thanks for that, Rev. On that same site is a wonderful interview with Herbie Hancock about his time playing with Miles with some cool anecdotes. Andy you know, I"ve been thinking about this: A lot of people have credited Miles (under the influence of Bill Evans) for ushering in the modal approach and, effectively putting a period on the post-bop movement. His think was that is the band played modally that the soloist would then have more freedom to control the harmony (whereas before, it was always the chordalists who dictated the harmony to the soloists) In a way, by introducing tape loops on 'In a Silent Way' (neglected as the predecessor and I feel, the superior record to the more famous "Bitches Brew") he was doing the same thing to the percussionists. By introducing a static loop that held down the groove, in essence, the percussionists and drummers were free to explore more. You really hear this too as the fusion movement came out of these records: percussion became vastly more adventuresome, especially in terms of the varied timbres that multi-percussionists began to bring into the music. Texture became as important as rhythm or style. That's one of the things that I try to explain when I go to the fairly conservative Percussion Arts Seminar annual conventions (called PASIC). Most people assume that a constantly repeating thing is a limitation, when in reality it's amazingly liberating as a multi-instrumentalist or as a multi-percussionist. Typically, as a groove oriented drummer for most of my life, I have had to hold down the fort with a groove. I could hear amazing things in my head as embellishments to the rhythm but , as I always told my students: 'There is the groove and there is commentary on the groove and when you are commenting on the groove you are not playing the groove.' The only way to get around this successfully is to pay a groove for long enough that when you veer from it with a fill or embellishment, that the listener hears the groove continuing do to the depth of it's trance. In successful pop drumming, as a rule, you tend not to want to use any more than a 1/16 ratio of fill to groove. And that's playing a lot of fills...........(that's a one bar fill every four bars or up to a one bar fill every sixteen bars, which is pretty over the top in a pop song). So, yeah to Miles and Teo!!!!! original jazz loopers! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 10:05:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54A233BEEE; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xIyA0k7Ue9X1TYCTv7APcCruscdJge0LuAynoTKx4ik=; b=juUaqjwbWtxRiS6WiihIUoxGUgwRxAbt4DECytbh0PkSofnbe32rinFFRmE+Bg2OT/ snhgjp4exKESFRegDAT22a8E7mwCA6lx2VMO/XuGvgmGQslfNj851JvY2A/5MxIDM+RR KqQghah40S/O9e6lkbfykevJUHqGqYXzOIvhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TPJEIUJ1p7KojsX/fFeTcfP/k3uZ4t8aSw/p3Th74R3HAm6YBVFemDxM71Qc9tjN/B AkC5vMSuKRHjyzswcBLtZRNpBI5rEj9MfHE8hi54x1jDYxvruagp9NRIXwhkrVnEkCJJ fanj+KBdYIwzCtPG0V71gpQ9BtGAPuc0FjDAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:05:35 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908040305iaf129e4tdb14717e282d30cd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:05:40 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Mech wrote: > I've had guitar- and wind-controllers since the '80s. =C2=A0And in terms = of > expressiveness, I really prefer both of them over traditional > keyboard-controllers. =C2=A0There's an organic quality that's a lot more > difficult to get if you're dealing with an interface that's not much more > than a glorified set of buttons. I too have owned a MIDI guitar since the 80's and an AKAI EWI4000s since 2006. Needless to say I prefer the EWI for all synth playing. Never use the MIDI guitar, except as electric guitar. When patching around with MIDI arpeggiator stuff I rarely bother to turn on a piano style keyboard because it is faster to simply play the notes on the computer keyboard :-)) With Logic 9 you can pop in a mic and whistle a melody and have it converted to MIDI - or push a button to have it chopped up into audio samples and transformed into a sampler instrument patch plus a MIDI sequence to drive sound. I generally think all kinds of cheating inspires great music! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 10:07:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E9D03BEF7; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=h764Us2OrNUn3ZxpulkuMyUSH9Ce/nK1cYTQsVm0AEU=; b=Hb2bgytFp7+RGkNO2D0zTYLzsUGoscY+rpJB6X1j6xE9XEB4bzhKA5BJVFgbng7+Hu Eob+4YyrT7+X31qj6ydwgTL1RPX3KlMDQw1uLVJgOo7bjWhL4tOmu2xgstXYKX8wZnzs RWOxZpT+iWlwc4oy7HNBp5O6S+WWwHFiWqsBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lxHhKlufzvUjw/jiRHAiOHNJETedOh/08t5nGohrvUJ94N9WvAHTd8X8YeUtW/wQKS NlWSQow1YE1Jjg1WytB6hu3xnxga3yskOYqbnzkErNtgG8aLwcW2sNUa6Rr5eXz5SPn4 VQTGe1B5A020w1BUnKcRQhoRHTbTyhH93yI64= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A77EDEF.6050409@tiscali.co.uk> References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <4A77EDEF.6050409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:07:17 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908040307u66beed99o5f9f35e7ad5dd26a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:07:18 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:14 AM, andy butler wrote: > andy > ps. =C2=A0Per, the Sonuus is *mono* Oh, that's bad. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 11:15:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D44883BE89; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:15:50 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <891696.76216.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090804111550.104550@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <891696.76216.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+mXVkX/U+macGN4sGTOjR8PJVa2Y9dOvtRBYYxny hVnngRvvUDYNFSbn1zC/P5opse7c5w64y1gA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: VS9Ke+MAIydmHIx+j2ZrudxSa2FkZpUI X-FuHaFi: 0.79 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis > I guess what turns me off about this boss loopers is the fuction of trying > to correct your timing What do you mean with correcting your timing? The only feature I'm aware of is quantize to another loop tempo. But all other loopers have this feature, too. best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 12:32:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE3143BE8B; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <117653A7A73F479888D7CF6EF911C391@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <000b01c9f669$e035a1e0$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Ustream show vid Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:32:20 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:32:23 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jeff Duke" >I have posted this video of my Ustream show last Saturday. This is a low >quality screen capture from Ninjam tv. They had carried the show and when I >screwed up and didn't record it myself I obtained this. > http://www.vimeo.com/5308400 > Hi again folks, Another nice piece. I love the visuals, despite your apologizing for the lo-fi effect it's not jerky visually either. Gotta get my broadband above its current state, hopefully this week! Stephen Goodman * http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 12:49:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AD363BE88; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 237196560/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.234.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.234.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiABAJPLd0pPTuo9/2dsb2JhbAAI1GGEGAWKFg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,321,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="237196560" Message-ID: <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:04:44 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:49:08 +0000 (UTC) looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > the Rev Fevers wrote: > "I wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo Marcero > employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of Bitches Brew,etc. > Speaking of that, here is some inspirational reading. Enjoy... > > http://milesite.blogspot.com/2009/02/teo-macero-on-producing-miles-davis.html > The procedure as detailed there. 1) Session recorded 2) Whole session mixed down 3) Session edited to 8-9 minute masters (Teo + Miles) 4) Teo uses editing to repeat sections of the music to make a whole album. > > Andy you know, I"ve been thinking about this: > > A lot of people have credited Miles (under the influence of Bill Evans) > for ushering in the > modal approach and, effectively putting a period on the post-bop movement. Well, I'm never sure about "lot of people" type statements. I'm more of a one piece of good evidence is all it needs kind of a guy. > > His think was that is the band played modally that the soloist would then > have more freedom > to control the harmony (whereas before, it was always the chordalists who > dictated the harmony to the soloists) The ideal for bebop, afaik, is that the chordal accompanist listens to how the soloist is treating the skeletal harmony of the chart and comps accordingly. Most of Kind of Blue is exactly that, but with the chord changes coming much slower. This was the important change away from bebop chord prison... I couldn't say Miles was the first, and he actually claims it's part of an existing trend on the Kind of Blue sleeve notes. > > In a way, by introducing tape loops on 'In a Silent Way' (neglected as > the predecessor and I feel, the superior record to the more famous > "Bitches Brew") > he was doing the same thing to the percussionists. > > By introducing a static loop that held down the groove, in essence, the > percussionists and drummers were free to explore more. Rev's link does not confirm the methodology for recording that this suggests. > > You really hear this too as the fusion movement came out of these records: er...Zappa got there first. (others?) Miles legitimised fusion, and helped it along. Let's not let music critics re-write history. I like Miles. e.g. currently a band I'm in is Playing "Perfect Way"(from Tutu) and I get to play a transcript of the trumpet melody/solo bit. It's a really exciting piece to play. ...but I don't understand all these "Miles started...." themes. There are a lot of supporters, but no evidence in terms of recordings, anecdotes from players around at the time, or even Davis' own claims (too modest?). If you want to prove Mingus was influenced by Coleman, then Eric Dolphy described being bundled into Mingus' car, driven to a Coleman gig and asked to play in that style. It's possible to listen to the relevant albums and hear how that worked out. Why not just credit Miles for a great contribution? > percussion > became vastly more adventuresome, especially in terms of the varied > timbres that multi-percussionists began to bring into the music. > Texture became as important as rhythm or > style. ok people.. Rick's well into his second expresso today :-) just sit back and enjoy > That's one of the things that I try to explain when I go to the fairly > conservative Percussion Arts Seminar annual conventions (called PASIC). > Most people assume that a constantly repeating thing is a limitation, when > in reality it's amazingly liberating as a multi-instrumentalist or as > a multi-percussionist. > > Typically, as a groove oriented drummer for most of my life, I have had to > hold down the fort with a groove. I could hear amazing things in my > head as embellishments to the rhythm but , as I always told my students: > 'There is the groove and there is commentary on the groove > and when you are commenting on the groove you are not playing the groove.' > > The only way to get around this successfully is to pay a groove for long > enough that when you veer from it with a fill or embellishment, that the > listener hears the groove continuing due to the depth of it's trance. > > In successful pop drumming, as a rule, you tend not to want to use any > more than a 1/16 ratio > of fill to groove. And that's playing a lot of fills...........(that's > a one beat fill every four bars or > up to a one bar fill every sixteen bars, which is pretty over the top in > a pop song). > > So, yeah to Miles and Teo!!!!! original jazz loopers! > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 13:04:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB6133BE8B; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=tg43blvuYANyIWtsKUzsCxkKWbxRH64lU/GYLohP9GNVrglsdpmvOs0r86Ii+Q69; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3D5E7B5D-32F5-4D1E-8A4C-34B4878D855B@ubergadget.com> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05C17E82-A4B7-49C1-B879-2E3AAF311695@johnfloridis.com> <001801ca14a4$b2cd46f0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <3D5E7B5D-32F5-4D1E-8A4C-34B4878D855B@ubergadget.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:04:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-962731412==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79359a0fca44683feb987c00bc9d2abbdd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: <6jgf_C.A.qLB.xHDeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:04:49 +0000 (UTC) --============_-962731412==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Thanks for that link, Rev... I produced a record this year for Jazz Guitarist Ray Gehring, and while I was sorting through the takes, I was struck by how "In a Silent way" the vibe was, somehow I couldn't locate my copy of that Miles record, so I went down to the east village to Norman's records and I found a 3 disk set of the complete "Silent Way" sessions... wow... My favorite Miles Davis record in the flesh, so to speak.... Then I spied a 4 disk set of "Bitches Brew" , often considered to be the 'best' Miles record.. I'd never even heard it... I'd avoided hearing it because it was so hyped and I wanted to avoid the big letdown... OK, I put on Bitches Brew and I had the most transporting musical experience I've had in decades... wow.. I noticed all of the edits and repeated passages (looping, if you will allow the comparison...), I thought that the production of this record had more in common with Hip Hop than with smug, snooty "Jazz" records and I LOVED IT... Nice work Teo.... >On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >>Don't forget the beating Miles Davis took from the purists when he >>went electric! >> >>Jeff >> > >I wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo >Marcero employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of >Bitches Brew,etc. > >Speaking of that, here is some inspirational reading. Enjoy... > >http://milesite.blogspot.com/2009/02/teo-macero-on-producing-miles-davis.html > >Cheers, >Rev Fever >http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-962731412==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo
Thanks for that link, Rev...


I produced a record this year for Jazz Guitarist Ray Gehring, and while I was sorting through the takes, I was struck by how "In a Silent way" the vibe was, somehow I couldn't locate my copy of that Miles record, so I went down to the east village to Norman's records and I found a 3 disk set of the complete "Silent Way" sessions... wow... My favorite Miles Davis record in the flesh, so to speak....  Then I spied a 4 disk set of "Bitches Brew" , often considered to be the 'best' Miles record.. I'd never even heard it... I'd avoided hearing it because it was so hyped and I wanted to avoid the big letdown... 

OK,  I put on Bitches Brew and I had the most transporting musical experience I've had in decades... wow..  I noticed all of the edits and repeated passages (looping, if you will allow the comparison...),  I thought that the production of this record had more in common with Hip Hop than with smug, snooty "Jazz" records and I LOVED IT...

 Nice work Teo....




On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

Don't forget the beating Miles Davis took from the purists when he went electric!
 
Jeff

I wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo Marcero employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of Bitches Brew,etc.

Speaking of that, here is some inspirational reading.  Enjoy...

http://milesite.blogspot.com/2009/02/teo-macero-on-producing-miles-davis.html

Cheers,
Rev Fever
http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/


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--============_-962731412==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 13:17:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 559F53BE88; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=cT3l+oNHagpSKTbXZFUAp8e/cVjFiJgE75QZlylqZT6Sczs3EUfDf39t8rxSsGCI; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:17:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7981648b380843c4598148d80c451ae38f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, Are you aware that "Perfect Way" is a cover of a Scritti Politti song? Marcus Miller played bass (slaps and pops as fills mostly) on the original and Miles played a solo on their follow up album "Provision" http://www.last.fm/music/Scritti+Politti/_/Perfect+Way http://www.last.fm/music/Scritti+Politti/_/Oh+Patti++%28Don%27t+Feel+Sorry+For+Loverboy%29 >looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > >I like Miles. >e.g. currently a band I'm in is Playing "Perfect Way"(from Tutu) >and I get to play a transcript of the trumpet melody/solo bit. >It's a really exciting piece to play. > >...but I don't understand all these "Miles started...." >themes. There are a lot of supporters, but no evidence in >terms of recordings, anecdotes from players around at the >time, or even Davis' own claims (too modest?). >If you want to prove Mingus was influenced by Coleman, then >Eric Dolphy described being bundled into Mingus' car, driven >to a Coleman gig and asked to play in that style. It's possible to >listen to the relevant albums and hear >how that worked out. > >Why not just credit Miles for a great contribution? -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 13:19:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 291B83BE89; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=raKKc2HwOW1tk7NohOZpaachh2TKSYbTwii5iLKJ0iA=; b=MykOYQHXPyzOUfXS8VX1pxQyonocFnuoxH9dKKhTSNwOXIQQ1r/3v3Qa+FB7+IN0Z6 AfhgJ3cxDMNABTmHLnJHfuseFk517VSGeJe6LjSj6R4SU0N3VYYPga2LBWqwipm/vOB9 e5r6xhM10mQKDupMrRhEdt396uJkXPcjnBNN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=j9EE9pK1zINi/r75eKLxrQsSulb4j2Fh5AWt0KKcoYmgmx8p/YnDUDMu1ADOpHbw4R NLJDe5wc6KNKD1SwQeucsEDaMaJQUlRdEA7/thWXmEVzdBQUIhgVU0S/YFyXHbz903Md uZJjvFwsXPcfA3WGjemqMjQliJtJgQwORc85k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e50d1a5d5692dbb6 Message-ID: <101191640908040619h3ea32c02o14a7e51ed39bd73@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:19:55 +0000 (UTC) If I had to choose just one desert island disk, it would certainly be In a Silent Way. Just sayin'. Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 13:33:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 103D23BE8B; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y4hoz+SBpqY78OMcSU6BsSCIVkfOcghHdmRUHg24iek=; b=XbtYQFm9yUrMT7PdBkSwDJSkZ1/mF0YQyQYQUUPd+ljVisrBYj5FB6EWolHWWqjlsd RG0wwx4TasXAcSiAqn6G8tQ8xVFujlwj8Tbsv8xfXVlRsxTkrN8cNPg/0xQQsOcTenWn eYHdqfLMoGvKHblVXoVWpNUUZnQa8wOK5hG68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=frVrLTY4Iy6hn2JhcZmXNJtZNpZkL+co+ef8EXrS4rgzv1yURNDDDfTnt5RaGZrPkB 3AxGUGfBNoKFLLLK/DSz/Z9UZkmEXo4opq8OXxoaMo0lUKNGNyfgeyZC8TcBeRwohDC0 ejZKYyfnEavE7HraPhHOmJC6EtpN/RWWr3QK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:33:42 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908040633t3d25b75eg58b2e558628daee8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:33:43 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:04 PM, andy butler wrote: >> the Rev Fevers wrote: >> "I wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo Marcer= o >> employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of Bitches Brew,etc. >> Speaking of that, here is some inspirational reading. =C2=A0Enjoy... >> >> >> http://milesite.blogspot.com/2009/02/teo-macero-on-producing-miles-davis= .html I've started noticing those things just lately but when I bought Bitches Brew in the mid seventies I had no idea it was spliced together in that way. I didn't start in recording myself until 1980, as I also got into rudimentary livelooping. Today the method Teo used is what we all do when recording and editing on a DAW. Now I need to copy the Bitches Brew to the iPod and enjoy some more listening to it. Thanks fro the link, Rev. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 13:56:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8B1F3BE89; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:56:08 +0200 From: "Omid Shirazi" In-Reply-To: <309408.39430.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090804135608.160720@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <309408.39430.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #47263965 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+ikU1eNxii3QfhAUp9ntv2J6pFonOgcRiINQaGxK uzKRXvfKeHPyOBb4JjXwxPrm+vFFuOEJLndA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: zwtLfqp2TXsuU65UsGY5LHVCRzdyMsMh X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi, independent from looper be sure to try "VoiceLive2" from TC helicon. So if you are into vocal jamming. You will love it:) Greetz from Germany, Omid -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:48:53 -0700 (PDT) > Von: Petepong Phasukyud > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... > I fall in love with the LOOP things after watch some youtubes. I wanna use > it with my voice, only voice no other instument. > > Then, I found this social! hahaha > > So, I wanna testing some of it. However in Thailand there's only Boss - > ex.RC-50 RC20XL > and Digitech Jamman to try in the shop > > I don't wanna get too advance gear but if it's worth for creating loops > and maybe live performance, I will. > > Gibson EDP will be my top list but just only it's a bit expensive for > beginner like me who's not that sure about looping life that much > and I'm wonder if it's too advance or complicate than RC-50 or JAMMAN or > not. (I prefer Jamman if compare to RC20XL just because of the XLR for > microphone) > > about the RC-20 and Akai Headrush I've read many review and it's not so > suitable with the vocal looper? Are they right? > > or I should try these 2 little gears before purchase EDP? > > damn,I don't know which one suit for me. > > Can you guys suggest me? > > Pete ,  Bangkok > > P.S.I try to figure used stuff from ebay, craiglist,yahoo Is there > anywhere I can find in cyber? I have friend in Chicago and Indiana. > > > > -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 14:02:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 037A23BE8A; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:02:32 +0200 From: "Omid Shirazi" In-Reply-To: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090804140232.160730@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #47263965 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189Mp11tyc9mlnHFEDAuCymvXWq/MP/zlYYK/Jl0R wbUPFQsIqec4jLDRfjnvY7uh4cy2d1csl5xg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: TwdOe/sNYmYBcusHtHU35WFCWkZTQVS+ X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Mmmh, do it like Dalai Lama: Taliban exploded a Buddha-statue in Afganistan. What was his reaction? He smiled. You are multiplying yourself by looping. If you are good, the product is good, if not...not:) So what is the problem? Omid -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:06:22 -0700 (PDT) > Von: K D Patten > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: anti-looper bigots >  OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got > trashed by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my looping....evidently > because i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" player.....I'd like to hear your > experiences with this kind of bigot > > Kyle > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten          > > > -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 14:29:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 757B53BE88; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:29:37 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20090804135608.160720@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20090804142937.96510@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <309408.39430.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090804135608.160720@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19gyBUypABgOGnzFSJ8bjiG64C9H4MVGY+ursHqyO 2ooWdoe/XgyiaSjTIhsTnLKeaJ1wTIwhqLpA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 5n1Oe4EWYmYBe58snnY3L4xCWkZTQdTz X-FuHaFi: 0.84 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Omid can you tell a bit more about it? Is it worth it if you are not interested in the Harmonization? best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 14:48:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 890EF3BE86; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 381 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:48:57 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ie+JuhQ7BM2p9isHB762d2cMLj2vy1O44wwfxPWh0SE=; b=XnyiLI+H/Mr5a4JhuscOrpiXz6t/UZKbbmnULT/I6kuPE2YUQun/11QbdDhm9eWSGL oiYQwP+QBGR8YhJV6VdQmWFzkdGcKfwWI6TWfDbpP6l6XlfixMs/RJE1Hk0/snOe7lPJ UdSF4Rwv9rigvnLIFspb9QXtkipTO9oPvBae4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zh9msfhkCPmM8oBER2a6jF3ispiWnW+X5hx9J7yQeMNsgqYK/W6YXptJcOMKWAvXPR 0dq+/mZBoW0tnDjJOLPAbt14kVW1vprJ1hXgHRtN0J0SmtJM5+9m4/DFoZB4tgy9zGHN aD4vaYAjUzWAmwZX8JvfEbyrSQ16a6R4sQjgc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908040231ubb93161re6cef58a2e19da34@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60908040231ubb93161re6cef58a2e19da34@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:48:53 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908040748u2459aa7dy2e59cdec84fcc022@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: past/coming up virtual gigspam: live on uStream - Sunday Morning at 11 August 9 From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Does ustream.tv pay you to use the music and the videos? Or do they get it for free? On 8/4/09, Jim Goodin wrote: > I just finished posting archive highlights from my July 26th live uStream > webcast *Sunday Morning at 11*. This one was my most 'looped' show to date. > The clips are up on my showpage at > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11. > > Also, this weekend *Sunday, August 9, at 2pm EST*, I'm doing the next > episode of *Sunday Morning at **11*, this one > special in that it's going to be another duo show. > In addition to Chinapainting, I have a secondary > duo project called East of Where with drummer/'found' percussionist * > Will Romano*. I've worked with Will since we met in 2000. East of > Where has grown/shrunk since then > and has steadily evolved > to a improvisatory duo since 2004. Will performed with me at > the Boise Experimental Music Festival as a Kyber performer in 2008, has > guested with Daryl and I in Chinapainting and appeared on > the recent CT-Collective project CD ReUse . > Will is also a music journalist having authored two excellent bioographies > on Back Beat press, one on bluesman Hubert > Sumlinand > the other on legendary Jimmy > Reed > . > > Please note that due to scheduling and logistics we will be doing this > episode of Sunday morning in the afternoon instead of it's regular > latter morning time. Also due to conflicting with friend/fellow LD'er > Matt [Stevens] set, we will be doing our uStream set at 2pm EST. So > here in the northeastern timezone catch us at 2pm then stick around > for Matt at 3pm. > > Show times around the globe for Sunday Morning are * > 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, **2pm EST** > , 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan*. For exact times check > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ > > Thanks and we look forward to 'connecting' with you this Sunday at 2pm EST. > > Jim > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 14:50:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 735A33BE87; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qoL1veRTnmJSAAh8rNlFKUwbmqSkHMPx+rm0FjglOFA=; b=tmNSbQ8JgY0j5T6p6I42VCrUhhFOCOVoNsmVeiNwPFp3kRrOHe+pwoi3bWfYEVxZtp GtH1x0STOH/tZDiWOsWcABJIILUPwB7jINQYHneQ1bZUfQCqadO4p/NsW+sbCgbVoIa/ tLFHXxzX2WmHoHCfb2KXGF0b3PnSv65PEsLrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w2nRnfF1Kx6Qojz3tko8o1TnFJzDBLZgwR6NFxl19dKawHuqwXk40Nj4+bEI0gw3i2 IcErWS7vDOirlWiUuaTCP2O1V+eKdJleIx6ZV7yZ8cnwYj9lalDmI+S1NtgmU+gjNlQH sdt2VKcdQVLG5axK8tiYl7T6c/H8PXqYuyHQo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:42:33 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908040742u234b1b2bg831cc99b1758a09c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:50:32 +0000 (UTC) You got trashed because you didn't protect yourself. Next time, smile and walk away. Let them keep their big truths to themselves. If someone opens his mouth and starts explaining to you what you do right and what you ro wrong with your art, with your life, it is time to go. Let him talk to himself. He will not mind, he will not be offended. These kind of people talk to themselves even when they appear to be talking to someone else. It is like TV shows. On 8/4/09, K D Patten wrote: > OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got trashed > by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my looping....evidently because > i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" player.....I'd like to hear your > experiences with this kind of bigot > > Kyle > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:00:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED8D43BE8B; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1xMQOVneFzvPpIkn9BnrTj2Oq5wGB+7RIq8+NwLkY8c=; b=aNIMERbwthfNzO1W8iryv9jkzY9WfTnkBe6WZ4LBo0EuwRrJw+pCWXhJiPkQJhPDW+ F3+sG23ZJxEi6Qk0spybbmPWiA6pS7vLl8xqF0QaanBZM4njMheNtJO7uwR+1TFB6nWn 5QY9qvK3T1OUHf/jnch0Kaw8wp3sreSFoOwTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=She92CS+Vz5AelnPde/IdXEhi7+YuqsVsRcGl1Pms6xcsgArEOWgCYM7A6C1DBJ6Ru Xm7kNC0ZbR914ZLWDgiGncXbInZwKw/GEx/sJJYv/DVoyhLW4iQjdynEE0S2xnIVXtJe YmOJArru11l1BppeC92nYXl8RYr838RkKNevU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908040742u234b1b2bg831cc99b1758a09c@mail.gmail.com> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3f8d9ee60908040742u234b1b2bg831cc99b1758a09c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:00:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Awesome. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Milo wrote: > You got trashed because you didn't protect yourself. Next time, smile > and walk away. Let them keep their big truths to themselves. If > someone opens his mouth and starts explaining to you what you do right > and what you ro wrong with your art, with your life, it is time to go. > Let him talk to himself. He will not mind, he will not be offended. > These kind of people talk to themselves even when they appear to be > talking to someone else. It is like TV shows. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:01:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE66B3BE8B; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Nk12TE/v4lReuZwI0QzQlDL+14H/g7qBUQaN+jYz+U8=; b=FpxBVXCpqaFTNPqj8MGwaFRp2kIUu2tf/AypACDwfGjatGFohsuekWg4R8UexVttan eHS6Q8MmwoRg4GlygI6zULR6+EOJV4AQl+349/Mcbv9G86yCCisLLRolwbdCQ2VA6f5B 24nCxQDxkGOMgvrjr7TtvzuMSyiDIB9U1pJd8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Cu05Qng8PiTBCETs3xx7bWiYLptoX/+JhoqINagOu2Hb+YCT1hiAkIbZ2tylCOXo70 ywtgrqh+pNbQuNB7mK6E205gs24mBdnLPGZTAa9FIXzC+3hLh0Pveietp0+IU8kYPQ83 nr8F7/90XUyZ/oSFdwwnO7ZG0+Uf7PxYU73Io= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:46:44 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: cases From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3rb1rC.A.TwF.J1EeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:01:29 +0000 (UTC) So what do you use to carry your looping equipment? On 8/4/09, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > if you ever need a custom made case for wind instruments or anything > else, check out howard wiseman's cases. > this man is a genius. he has a tetris kind of mind. > i just had my five flutes (from piccolo to contrabassflute) including > stand fitted into a ridiulously small case. > i can carry it easily on my shoulder, so finally i could give my old > tank of a flightcase a good kick into the corner > of my practice room (it's for sale, by the way - and cheap...). > > here's the link: http://www.wisemancases.com/ > > tilmann > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:03:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26AE53BEA4; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:03:46 +0200 From: "Omid Shirazi" In-Reply-To: <20090804142937.96510@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20090804150346.24120@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <309408.39430.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090804135608.160720@gmx.net> <20090804142937.96510@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #47263965 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/DorN1WWXDpoHHsAriaCE9jDUUV2GBaxSJ6bnJ0K TcQVbH0o5sKLawFtmWX+bWCLd3DRN51RT5ug== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 6n9LfgZAX1V6FOldvWNygn1/SDc4NAx/ X-FuHaFi: 0.58 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Yes, it is a vocal optimized fx-unit. incl. adaptive comp + eq, reverb, delay, microtime-fx (flanger etc.) and filters. Specially the comp and eq unit is pushing your vocals to the front. You can have a look hier: http://www.tc-helicon.com/voicelive2.asp?video=voicelive2/voicelive2_10presets.flv best, Omid -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:29:37 +0200 > Von: "Buzap Buzap" > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... > Hi Omid > > can you tell a bit more about it? > Is it worth it if you are not interested in the Harmonization? > > best regards > Buzap > > -- > Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate > für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:09:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BB603BEA9; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=CM+ggXmpTujePh6w9lioq550d9l4Fu9e5A8Agei+1/nd56/3mvCRaGjLrnLTMvpkllA0R1cdJtErHOHcQKy8r8QmAOUK9sGtrc0c+Dp7rDEOtEe+hzZhXcmDoehNgsWrsoJlsv8KvH4SH9f0iAEBDe+yEv6l3Vrc99YBrdDJjGk= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: sYZ5wDUVM1loukQnKUxiI8QpzOYfv23uzRMVDufajjcE0rFgAvf0qspbaANKF5sYk4LAp8kjJh5.8uZBDEwuTiJNnwc36jOGlsRwgEyndhcy3aKNhDfYd8jujubY6Bm0gRx73cx34w1HZ16SmFiW5OLisf2gCWXsFDJ5STwMUV7SyVebeXkAflhOFGB10Xctl7M06gkIfvlQTgTDLLLlJL7RjwyRwm3zT_sLj9NwxepRAxn8FEWRv5OPwSW3E.Alo7amci2k1nWPtdHKuZX4zgbtexOfzQHIsm2G0feVe.OzTY5_sLmjdkmU6vhZ7kV4br2p9Qr3FWAm3MTbmaq_RlqdYPDDhsBNmX8- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <6C7F08BA72FC4D9F8E3A62F9B11BA896@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: cases Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:09:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:09:39 +0000 (UTC) On this note, I'm looking for a case for a 1/2 U audio interface. RME Fireface 400. Does anyone know of anything that will fit this unit? Cheers, Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milo" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:46 PM Subject: Re: OT: cases > So what do you use to carry your looping equipment? > > On 8/4/09, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: >> if you ever need a custom made case for wind instruments or anything >> else, check out howard wiseman's cases. >> this man is a genius. he has a tetris kind of mind. >> i just had my five flutes (from piccolo to contrabassflute) including >> stand fitted into a ridiulously small case. >> i can carry it easily on my shoulder, so finally i could give my old >> tank of a flightcase a good kick into the corner >> of my practice room (it's for sale, by the way - and cheap...). >> >> here's the link: http://www.wisemancases.com/ >> >> tilmann >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.43/2281 - Release Date: 08/04/09 05:57:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:09:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59A923BEC5; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249398595; bh=qICI6avaidEaOCpwF7nYmLHHSdVHTEwHEFr098dqN58=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ysZaImNd17XqHW+8Nw9ONQQItgimZxq9yVQCWq7rPTPu/sBTu1VeKHxNVI5Y1QLBSOPYj+msTB67h8Igwy/J7ufW9AzT6TgXPhuLPipsuusi2hHQuBG/T6RL9AHSP1IF8GRKxC5F/mvOUE2sj7WU+ziSwQ4FMaukpWj4eh32aaU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hVfzsvIoORtoOllSAdIV9dNUyq/J/mXRJ5+auhfZdlxUOD1GrMYeYF/QugEDhfAA3Nn5dhIYUsnGp3RUNpyZ51Pl67pP1OE1NbKSldHboCkbOcqa1sVSMud58ctD+EjHThlCXRX2KqrfaQ4LuGxXB1NaJT942oUnJS+FOdK2OqY=; Message-ID: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: M_DLxeoVM1n_zRvAC4xVh16rwNyBAB_u4GaHTfCwiX9yG4uiKA5Xb5K6WpypkKGF9khiC84EY696etspDK2WCHZvMJr.AriNzx9aGKoZGG6UcjIPTtk_pxKA5RFpXgxLlZV42m5qvaH1GJD6rRTDRkydT0iUSs46ogCsI8_KYWHPSZRhBrAwuH6Nmz18aupMbC5UwYj46K01ih1PFPYLrpGr_XnjWsaKpn18OPLRiR81J99rLIxkO9oAACFdeZcwBfpnrupLsbmL_yk3rwqYbtmJpeZwho.L_eSzSBybU74B11jR2JOy0hXKlbAfiCuTK61x_kjRD6VmRMkkd.MjBmkz7uYY.dtlJHFMkE3qExH0Hw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:09:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-610446792-1249398595=:69360" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:09:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-610446792-1249398595=:69360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aren't you known as "Mr. Rude"? :) --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:25 PM Oh man, I used to get crap all the time.=A0 I have to admit I'd kind of invite it though, but creating some crazy complex loop and then putting down my guitar and walking away to sit in the audience for a bit.=A0 Someone would always say, "Wait, you're not playing that?!" and I'd reply, "well not any more I'm not." Tons of times I get people coming right up to me and starting conversations because they think I'd DJing it or something.=A0 This is even pre laptop.=A0 Usually nerdy guys who want to talk about what gear I'm using. Not quite looping (though he used a looper) my friend Gary used to feed samples from a laptop into a JamMan.=A0 During a performance at a sculpture space a woman came up to him and mid performance loudly said, "Oh is this all prerecorded?!"=A0 He politely tried to respond, but I think I yelled back at her and made her go away. She called me rude, but I invited her to consider what's ruder, being chased away from performers or pestering performers during a performance. Funny. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM, K D Patten wrote: > =A0OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got tras= hed > by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my looping....evidently beca= use > i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" player.....I'd like to hear your > experiences with this kind of bigot > > Kyle > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten > > > > =0A=0A=0A --0-610446792-1249398595=:69360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A=0A --0-610446792-1249398595=:69360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:37:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC34C3BEBA; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1249400240; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=PPjv/hYcltv1Io7Ac6sbJxS/g3w=; b=eeJ0JcbbhCyCzeKVryCoWvJxKy+MiKCsn1SOIFz6Ef2YCoDZ4bWEtWzW+tvO3HS+ 2iZStY+ggBcyVFaGZerDwmRb6d6hF957k/gYNAMr17gwpEsN0rQ5DmX+OFUT7oiV; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_ak9i7-zAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=jLbM8sejAAAA:8 a=81TZdmQzw98cXjmMYgkA:9 a=ar5tfDekzUcv-7urNh6_MIyAI4kA:4 a=_l2Q2dtbBbIA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001801ca1519$b19a0ff0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000b01c9f669$e035a1e0$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> <117653A7A73F479888D7CF6EF911C391@eluk1> Subject: Re: Ustream show vid Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:39:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Stephen, I am looking forward to your going "live"! One tip, if you use an outboard webcam be sure and plug it into a usb 2.0 port. I got very jerky video until I realized the the usb on the front of my machine was 1.0 with the 4 2.0s on the back. :) I actually took the first camera back and then had to go buy it again when I realized what was up with that. You can then get smooth video at even low bitrates. peace, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Goodman" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Ustream show vid > From: "Jeff Duke" >>I have posted this video of my Ustream show last Saturday. This is a low >>quality screen capture from Ninjam tv. They had carried the show and when >>I screwed up and didn't record it myself I obtained this. >> http://www.vimeo.com/5308400 >> > > Hi again folks, > > Another nice piece. I love the visuals, despite your apologizing for the > lo-fi effect it's not jerky visually either. Gotta get my broadband above > its current state, hopefully this week! > > Stephen Goodman > * > http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman > http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:44:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1E713BECD; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249400650; l=1772; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=0XEufwUwxm87Ac74/xofW33odRg=; b=sIsd2Xt/8eYzYWM2tGr3Ji0HvZkZ5JZGb66j50SvEZR29jZrmpR59N+inXetJcWBFhh MTDJkr2IwRqzZ6RQr6lXGeiCsnI+M9BgR1oxZkv5vnw5f8ATOV2SssOo09te54tVQvSY2 hupvvDJbNfAMRbidhqP5vYqMugmiSAQG8Po= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00d101ca151a$e57d0830$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:34:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to you all for suggestions. You get it to the point, Mark: "Everything else just makes me feel like the MIDI guitar is playing me." That´s exactly how I feel when using it. But I will check Per Boysen´s , yours and Mech´s suggestions. Will first try switching the keyboard to monophonic and pitch bend to zero. Thanks for your help! Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi Of all the guitar synth experiences I've ever had, the only one I still use and enjoy is using Line6's POD Farm and it's synth models. Everything else just makes me feel like the MIDI guitar is playing me. For triggering everything else I find an actual midi keyboard to be worlds better. Almost as if it were designed for it from the start. ;) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Christo Jota wrote: >> Maybe it´s ok with playing short notes but if using synth pads with a quite >> long >> release, those spheric sounds, it sounds awful with the wrong notes... > > > I played guitar with MIDI synth modules in a band and used the trick > to set each string to a unique MIDI channel and set the synth to > monophonic playback on each channel. This means every new note I play > on a string will mute whatever other note might have been triggered > from that string. It becomes easy to correct just one string in a > chord if you should get a "wrong note". And I also disabled pitch bend > on my synth patches. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:44:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F364D3BEDC; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249400650; l=1554; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=SOO2EtXff8ofxUtovfCWM6+WWKg=; b=wpjYzZO25Krwhx8yDs1+u/CY+hA6NRh8RY86v5/y2xyAtJ+F47Gl60KTEssum0XBSwk t2CDlmNWLrvPm77WEN0GRjO5AnblmUbZ6KnopXTzigFaDonmEBn0tewFl2gNPMQpQtBjY Qm8lkWr8JmWjKhbOHxCTqhwScKjdYYswOSI= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00d401ca151a$e5c66d40$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:46:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Is Line 6´s POD having synth models? Didn´t know. Maybe it´s some compromise kinda synths like in my Boss-GT 8. They sound like crap. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi Of all the guitar synth experiences I've ever had, the only one I still use and enjoy is using Line6's POD Farm and it's synth models. Everything else just makes me feel like the MIDI guitar is playing me. For triggering everything else I find an actual midi keyboard to be worlds better. Almost as if it were designed for it from the start. ;) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Christo Jota wrote: >> Maybe it´s ok with playing short notes but if using synth pads with a quite >> long >> release, those spheric sounds, it sounds awful with the wrong notes... > > > I played guitar with MIDI synth modules in a band and used the trick > to set each string to a unique MIDI channel and set the synth to > monophonic playback on each channel. This means every new note I play > on a string will mute whatever other note might have been triggered > from that string. It becomes easy to correct just one string in a > chord if you should get a "wrong note". And I also disabled pitch bend > on my synth patches. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:44:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E0803BEEC; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249400650; l=2157; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=8YlARDNxMOaCv/kp0rWg2at+620=; b=ifRwCMgjIIsF3wpd7oB3zAf7hfJJHR4qHWUoXc8k4QPFKx6M/6A68wHnpFebweWwEXj vGNDhl1li/xCJr1YRKmV+mwZs4ZWnSelpmcJEforFvrOvKQGAbyNy71zAOxB+AJVpLVcr MCPp2laAIHld4SB0wr8bp7h0ViTw1xUzHKw= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00d301ca151a$e5ac5590$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <4A77EDEF.6050409@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:44:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Not sure if I understand what you mean, Andy. But will play around with all these options with semitones and pitch bend etc. You´re probably right when saying I have to learn to damp the other 5 strings. But that probably keeps me from a relaxed way of playing... Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi > Christo Jota wrote: > > About 10 days ago I got a Sonuus G2M - Guitar to midi converter > > (monophonic). > > My impressions after checking it out are: > > The fast, accurate not tracking which is advertised in the manual is not > > possible. I mainly use it for soft snyth-sounds . Not for fast playing > > notes. > > Just to give my guitar playing a smooth backing sound. Like a melotron etc. > > But even with that you have to concentrate a lot on playing very accurate. > > Otherwise you hear wrong notes very soon > > The Sonuus isn't the fastest tracking device around, but it's very playable, > and is exceptionally glitch resistant. > > I'm afraid you just have to learn to damp the other 5 strings while > playing a note if you want it to behave. > > You could always attach some sort of mechanical damping at the nut > to stop the open strings ringing in the same way that the guys > who do 2 handed tapping do. > > > > > > I also checked the pitch-bend advise from the manual, but it didn´t help: > > " to ensure that the midi sounds are correctly in tune > > with the guitar, you have to ensure the Midi patch is set to a pitch-bend > > range of + - 2 semitones." > > "set the pitch bend range in your *synth* to 2 semitones". > > If you've been using those patches with another midi controller, > likely they'll be set to 12 semitones. > > ...and any note bend would be exaggerated by 6x > > That's a drawback with the simplicity of the Sonuus, because pitch > bend is 2 semitones it means if you bend a note *just* past that limit > you get a re-trigger. > > > andy > ps. Per, the Sonuus is *mono* > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:44:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D20853BEF5; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249400650; l=1041; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=5Kl86wsnlM8j3VzSMKVq2njDroQ=; b=Im57fjyVCWLenqKbt4bARegt8/Mj1QbT91Vo5x7ojHUVxbPtfPtKs1Z+wnTY9Mzmybe jx8UPEy1LHCHZE78R3cl10wAPbAGQNWYLoIruvBvi1Zp6sufSWXxk85fTMUeKblWY/t8x MaPH/K2ZA3cQ8tA1EKICbdfBd9lynhgNYJ4= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00d201ca151a$e593eb90$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0908031104g4500670ck22d0362eb77e60ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:41:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Thanks. Will check this out first. Set the Synth to mono play mode and disable pitch bend. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Christo Jota wrote: > Maybe it´s ok with playing short notes but if using synth pads with a quite > long > release, those spheric sounds, it sounds awful with the wrong notes... I played guitar with MIDI synth modules in a band and used the trick to set each string to a unique MIDI channel and set the synth to monophonic playback on each channel. This means every new note I play on a string will mute whatever other note might have been triggered from that string. It becomes easy to correct just one string in a chord if you should get a "wrong note". And I also disabled pitch bend on my synth patches. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:51:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FFD63BEB2; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=grv8I1eLfr1wSufn2QTMcv58gJWHn6SO8e+4iKJXv5k=; b=lLoXHsGvK1kMIajVoALBCDlUZLaKA9vCiOGTYn5DzfC/Hb4MqOXHgJtztNa3opiQR+ M+YoDKxxF8tZjQj5Sy1wyyvrPm+9JSkgmmHlYhHuGrXhPglrjx6AnW03n14KTXLhPJ4a tAVilq7YzU/VHRI8zC2dFwKEe3t8sBoFPT7BY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BdgbDlo6b9tlxTMsTmXGZ1HvapalWydSLoz137rwkBAcndD0ZamNqHgkpkQ4nBh1A1 DFQdkPUv3vbsiapoWNNuJ7QGlH1KM1n5nAqXdluPZio5clVm2OR9y8vYs9e6leaIkt+0 W1gEVmtUq5H2kjk786GdZlR9R4p7R+VLfwTaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:51:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM, K D Patten wrote: >> =C2=A0OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got = trashed > I played "experimental and totally improvised music" at a "Singer/songwriter's Night" at a local beer house, using tenor sax for livelooping. To my ears everyone else there tried to mimic some well known country artist I don't know the name of. I thought they should start throwing ashtrays and beer cans at me as I started to squeal and scramble on stage but it appeared about half of them appreciated my gig as "very, very different" while the other half thought I had been acting out to a pre recorded CD and they simply accepted "not understanding this art form". One guy said to me he did not like what I was doing but was glad anyway having witnessed "the most strange stuff so far". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 15:53:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21EAA3BEC4; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 241238624/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.234.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.234.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcBADz2d0pPTuo9/2dsb2JhbAAIkwWyc48ohBgFihY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,322,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="241238624" Message-ID: <4A785D0F.4050405@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:08:47 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9UI7_B.A.xzH.tlFeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:53:18 +0000 (UTC) LOL I am now! many thanks compare a Miles' live version, similar to the one I was given to describe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hs-Ic-VobY andy Charles Zwicky wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Are you aware that "Perfect Way" is a cover of a Scritti Politti song? > Marcus Miller played bass (slaps and pops as fills mostly) on the > original and Miles played a solo on their follow up album "Provision" > > http://www.last.fm/music/Scritti+Politti/_/Perfect+Way > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 16:05:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 965713BEC5; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3R76G2yzbJjb1yb4sqI11pBBYs7arZ9yP057RahpxPk=; b=ajR4wZe4ShsJp2lavtJqoYMwjC++pcQlpoC+7XggpMijutfYJ8fovdxG7XLWlJAjR0 aa2tZMHy7oWcrBeLCP0/XnZ4MrF5p4hVz0LpgJ/2oezd8U0J/6ARF6mpsgJdHyybzLeI ZPerkU/l16Oef5Hm+8BoDnq0Zqnaiy9G5H5G4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BCXwA9nCAL072C9lVInLb441OPgFbXhts9F4sxISY8wIynsiojmmhNA4XpS7lMN4bT f/cwB14auZPxxyVgrN8A023tPA/pWcTG6VmmQePPy+pqmr28Cx+gvgNPOOptlk+u4Doc GULkfhb3NaF4vfxS0TavAyzWfONG/CXEeTeQs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6C7F08BA72FC4D9F8E3A62F9B11BA896@a> References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> <6C7F08BA72FC4D9F8E3A62F9B11BA896@a> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:05:12 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908040905u31cb3de5nc2db232530a5d2d6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: cases From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:05:13 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > On this note, I'm looking for a case for a 1/2 U audio interface. RME > Fireface 400. Does anyone know of anything that will fit this unit? I often use that box and it fits perfectly into a big leg pocket if going with an aircraft (helping you to stay free from over weight fees). On the ground I just put some Bubble Wrapper around and fit it it into my Peli case with the rest of my gear. The Peli case seems non destructible. If using a classic rack (I did back in the hardware days with EDP and Repeaters) you can mount the RME in a half wide one unit rack space slot. Back then I had a Lexicon multi effect of the same half-wide size and used a special "half-wide car" mounted in the rack to hold the unit firmly. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 16:13:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 674DE3BED3; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=DoeNoh/ZZTuYkmsASknQcXnVf9av8VWxmkNAF30gLAx3bDbGPVZlwbwRQE9brWjs; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A785D0F.4050405@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> <4A785D0F.4050405@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:13:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec792556d52441bc0d618645785ff6568cb4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: <6oNtsC.A.ik.A5FeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Nice! They've really sped it up....! >LOL > >I am now! > >many thanks > >compare a Miles' live version, similar to the one >I was given to describe. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hs-Ic-VobY > >andy > >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>Hi Andy, >> >> Are you aware that "Perfect Way" is a cover of a Scritti Politti >>song? Marcus Miller played bass (slaps and pops as fills mostly) >>on the original and Miles played a solo on their follow up album >>"Provision" >> >>http://www.last.fm/music/Scritti+Politti/_/Perfect+Way -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 16:23:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 771043BEDF; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FNDBTVwHrKWPAGdwSEYsOQDbezqtIQMGLtvzscd4BaI=; b=uv9LFBlBKPZmigMoTchQ9+Q47amZsyVEPhZya4Jkk/Vw6FzChBve7ktjEdW4XHa7pL UGCSykYtZK7Wh1lwSDgBk9UZ6wi+F5iKIjCgw8gp64MTriq+5o8QSJxvZwKTruD+Nh4q rkI25GcUUG9bSgT/JUm5mfcUaQ7gFEQKevmBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PTeIfFalXnPKZU9Q7GC+RnhksmGVybTPloaXxQBB+OUHKbpQ1IndpnLAg46RwqBU4x QgNHkxBC+GeULKhnBtc/UgO+jDPrYre+GWcScI2L+qxUgfG7RZWGLrRwkrVafrXE3iWV nDXNnd4PlvbkbWXRpNbLHVduRf651X4rgX0QI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908040748u2459aa7dy2e59cdec84fcc022@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60908040231ubb93161re6cef58a2e19da34@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908040748u2459aa7dy2e59cdec84fcc022@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:23:28 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908040923v48442f3cn4d2963f1bd553800@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: past/coming up virtual gigspam: live on uStream - Sunday Morning at 11 August 9 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a7e87d62010470534e95 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:23:31 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a7e87d62010470534e95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit they get it for free On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Milo wrote: > Does ustream.tv pay you to use the music and the videos? Or do they > get it for free? > > > On 8/4/09, Jim Goodin wrote: > > I just finished posting archive highlights from my July 26th live uStream > > webcast *Sunday Morning at 11*. This one was my most 'looped' show to > date. > > The clips are up on my showpage at > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11. > > > > Also, this weekend *Sunday, August 9, at 2pm EST*, I'm doing the next > > episode of *Sunday Morning at **11*, this one > > special in that it's going to be another duo show. > > In addition to Chinapainting, I have a secondary > > duo project called East of Where with drummer/'found' percussionist * > > Will Romano*. I've worked with Will since we met in 2000. East of > > Where has grown/shrunk since then > > and has steadily evolved > > to a improvisatory duo since 2004. Will performed with me at > > the Boise Experimental Music Festival as a Kyber performer in 2008, has > > guested with Daryl and I in Chinapainting and appeared on > > the recent CT-Collective project CD ReUse < > http://www.myspace.com/ctreuse>. > > Will is also a music journalist having authored two excellent > bioographies > > on Back Beat press, one on bluesman Hubert > > Sumlin< > http://www.amazon.com/Incurable-Blues-Troubles-Triumph-Legend/dp/0879308338/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1249377386&sr=8-1 > >and > > the other on legendary Jimmy > > Reed< > http://www.amazon.com/Big-Boss-Man-Music-Bluesman/dp/0879308788/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1249377499&sr=8-1 > > > > . > > > > Please note that due to scheduling and logistics we will be doing this > > episode of Sunday morning in the afternoon instead of it's regular > > latter morning time. Also due to conflicting with friend/fellow LD'er > > Matt [Stevens] set, we will be doing our uStream set at 2pm EST. So > > here in the northeastern timezone catch us at 2pm then stick around > > for Matt at 3pm. > > > > Show times around the globe for Sunday Morning are * > > 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, **2pm EST** > > , 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan*. For exact times check > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ > > > > Thanks and we look forward to 'connecting' with you this Sunday at 2pm > EST. > > > > Jim > > > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > > > music links... > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > > www.myspace.com/jindream > > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > > video work/editing... > > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > > > social networking... > > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a7e87d62010470534e95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable they get it for free

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Milo <milo.vuc@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Does ustream.tv pay you to use the music and the video= s? Or do they
get it for free?


On 8/4/09, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just= finished posting archive highlights from my July 26th live uStream
>= webcast *Sunday Morning at 11*. =A0This one was my most 'looped' s= how to date.
> =A0The clips are up on my showpage at
> http://www.ustream= .tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11.
>
> Also, this weekend *S= unday, August 9, at 2pm EST*, I'm doing the next
> episode of *Sunday Morning at **11*, this one
> special in that = it's going to be another duo show.
> =A0In addition to Chinapaint= ing, I have a secondary
> duo project called East of Where with drumm= er/'found' percussionist *
> Will Romano*. =A0I've worked with Will since we met in 2000. =A0Ea= st of
> Where<http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere> has grown/shr= unk since then
> and has steadily evolved
> to a improvisatory = duo since 2004. =A0Will performed with me at
> the Boise Experimental= Music Festival as a Kyber performer in 2008, has
> guested with Dary= l and I in Chinapainting and appeared on
> the recent CT-Collective project CD ReUse <http://www.myspace.com/ctreuse>.
> =A0Will is also a music journalist having authored t= wo excellent bioographies
> on Back Beat press, one on bluesman Huber= t
> Sumlin<http://www.amazon.com/Incurable-Blue= s-Troubles-Triumph-Legend/dp/0879308338/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D12= 49377386&sr=3D8-1>and
> the other on legendary Jimmy
> Reed<<= a href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/Big-Boss-Man-Music-Bluesman/dp/0879308788/r= ef=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1249377499&sr=3D8-1" target=3D"_blank">= http://www.amazon.com/Big-Boss-Man-Music-Bluesman/dp/0879308788/ref=3Dsr_1_= 1?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1249377499&sr=3D8-1>
> .
>
> Please note that due to scheduling= and logistics we will be doing this
> episode of Sunday morning in t= he afternoon instead of it's regular
> latter morning time. =A0Al= so due to conflicting with friend/fellow LD'er
> Matt [Stevens] set, we will be doing our uStream set at 2pm EST. =A0So=
> here in the northeastern timezone catch us at 2pm then stick aroun= d
> for Matt at 3pm.
>
> Show times around the globe for = Sunday Morning are *
> 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, **2pm EST**
> , 7pm UK, 8pm western= Europe, 3am Japan*. =A0For exact times check
> http://www.timeanddate.com/= worldclock/
>
> Thanks and we look forward to 'connecting' with you th= is Sunday at 2pm EST.
>
> Jim
>
> ReUse, an introsp= ective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> ww= w.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream> w= ww.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
&= gt;
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>




--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music li= nks...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= /a>
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001636c5a7e87d62010470534e95-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 16:32:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C08CD3BEF8; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1FABF54AA4934671A6A70D9DB3740B84@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <000b01c9f669$e035a1e0$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> <117653A7A73F479888D7CF6EF911C391@eluk1> <001801ca1519$b19a0ff0$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Ustream show vid Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:32:13 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Yep, I dunno why anyone still produces a motherboard with USB <2.0 on it. You'd think there'd be an obvious market for cards to accommodate devices that may be so old they're probably going to cank it soon anyhoo, so that motherboards could come with 2.0 and up only. That being said, I'm planning on using not a regular webcam but my widescreen vid corder via USB, just to see what happens. I think it should look nice at least. :) > Thanks Stephen, > I am looking forward to your going "live"! One tip, if you use an outboard > webcam be sure and plug it into a usb 2.0 port. I got very jerky video > until I realized the the usb on the front of my machine was 1.0 with the 4 > 2.0s on the back. :) I actually took the first camera back and then had to > go buy it again when I realized what was up with that. You can then get > smooth video at even low bitrates. > > peace, > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Goodman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: Ustream show vid > > >> From: "Jeff Duke" >>>I have posted this video of my Ustream show last Saturday. This is a low >>>quality screen capture from Ninjam tv. They had carried the show and when >>>I screwed up and didn't record it myself I obtained this. >>> http://www.vimeo.com/5308400 >>> >> >> Hi again folks, >> >> Another nice piece. I love the visuals, despite your apologizing for the >> lo-fi effect it's not jerky visually either. Gotta get my broadband >> above >> its current state, hopefully this week! >> >> Stephen Goodman >> * >> http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman >> http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 17:07:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 610183BE81; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fd6ead96-2edb-48ea-a694-5ff79959dc97_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: anti-looper bigots Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:07:46 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908040742u234b1b2bg831cc99b1758a09c@mail.gmail.com> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3f8d9ee60908040742u234b1b2bg831cc99b1758a09c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 17:07:46.0863 (UTC) FILETIME=[16C80BF0:01CA1526] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:07:47 +0000 (UTC) --_fd6ead96-2edb-48ea-a694-5ff79959dc97_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good advice!=20 People get all wound up about the techniques used and create arbitrary rule= s.=20 I fell in love with MUSIC and learned how to play an instrument to be able = to make it.=20 Music is the prime objective and technique should be in the service of that= . I've been involved with the psy-trance scene for a couple of years now an= d nobody there gives a damn about how the music is made or performed. They = just want the vibrations! Use whatever it takes I say!=20 And a big YAAH BOO to those who've forgotten that that is what it's all abo= ut. peace love and enlightenment Gareth (blugaruda) >=20 > You got trashed because you didn't protect yourself. Next time=2C smile > and walk away. Let them keep their big truths to themselves. If > someone opens his mouth and starts explaining to you what you do right > and what you ro wrong with your art=2C with your life=2C it is time to go= . > Let him talk to himself. He will not mind=2C he will not be offended. > These kind of people talk to themselves even when they appear to be > talking to someone else. It is like TV shows. >=20 > On 8/4/09=2C K D Patten wrote: > > OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got tras= hed > > by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my looping....evidently be= cause > > i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" player.....I'd like to hear your > > experiences with this kind of bigot > > > > Kyle > > > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks=2C emoticons=2C display pic= s=2C and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_fd6ead96-2edb-48ea-a694-5ff79959dc97_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good advice!
People get all wound up about the techniques used and = create arbitrary rules.
I fell in love with MUSIC and learned how to pl= ay an instrument to be able to make it.
Music is the prime objective an= d technique should be in the service of that. I've been involved with the p= sy-trance scene for a couple of years now and nobody there gives a damn abo= ut how the music is made or performed. They just want the vibrations!
Us= e whatever it takes I say!
And a big YAAH BOO to those who've forgotten= that that is what it's all about.

peace love and enlightenment
<= br>Gareth (blugaruda)

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Get Them Now = --_fd6ead96-2edb-48ea-a694-5ff79959dc97_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 17:11:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A2D93BECC; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cqMSNvdQxwjzgVKAmJRu+CBSTp1bWcEh+gqO55iQrD8=; b=Z1eDbf9J4Fs731zs1/teRqfp0B51snigx24ypGzodhwiz4OLd9+Cys7mYTBAbQSlI4 H0hMIts5qApoEBwMIPz2i5io6dHAPCfP3G93fgNfjxBVZ9kPH4Dt4h/qWF2KQowsQgeB I3vOLlEDpxfOmg9+EYgVej0D7KoL708s5lK+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Fehl+Q5zYe6NR6lsVk31vtTzMyP+8LGaoNja2fNECZxEjMup9tx6QexssKtI/BF3sO aomhrtmsQI3nfwBbbppQIVLKL7hNgt2I2DAXqMHm19hETE319om6CHiEzSsei37X1XpB hRoDfc2i3/3YOdkALzhCQt3XR3sdJkt6al69k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:11:15 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908041011i1200a5bfha08b947bd8c9659d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Andy posted this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hs-Ic-VobY Holy shit! I was at that exact concert! Let's see if I can still name the band from the back of my head...Kenny Garrett on alto, Marylin Mazur on Percussion, Benny Rietveld on bass, Robert Irving and Adam Holzmann on keys, and then I think it's that guitarist that played guitar on a bass guitar - Joseph Foley McCreary... Those were the days. Miles Davis may be the only jazz musician who sounded completely Eighties without sounding tasteless ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 17:13:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC5E93BEBA; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WrmRlWHWLSAtFsDgOIp59mrc1Hwrv+oDkTwDagD9GKw=; b=G+sHlJCRacvOZztjmdCctokCYfmSBMjv9AzFaWbsCwDGMiSXDz0bXH030FeeJ/lz3P bGz40V6JT2Cxyd45gt3LiOsGxEBcpzFOv0ckq19EBP9si76u2DYGiMpoGwE7IpDhyT5j 8k7yU+MDAu5MgSjocjet6wN6fK4eOqWrPI8FI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JSPj2FNy7BD9JFVCTtUXIZl7RIWRkS6C4M1iRxFnjd2GEMVuBCfWisXrDhijhhHv6q B+RnYfzeu6eIA1HUD2AJquCF+ROp5p/Q2/rp5nRagC6aHa+ypf0350CZvG3m63z2VSkV XXgNDhCUm6B4mN6bbPIlyKHcz0l0t38YLvt7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:13:13 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908041013n590d44cfxd4d9a43c1a3861b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:13:17 +0000 (UTC) > The only feature I'm aware of is quantize to another loop tempo. > But all other loopers have this feature, too. No, two Revox A77 tape machines don't have it :-P. And while we're at it, a Boss DD20 doesn't, either. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 17:13:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 132FC3BEDE; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=jdNkb7x1F5FUtqr2A32VtcI4ol1kW3snAyFXrcIrUo21+C7PR+uTWl75fBsHXFfMELXjMsAK1GLPlM5wuS0TNlm4nxjjeWspe/LtNhOIsSHG5t0PIC5ymlLc7gEnImTCb/mqR4tgFslfh2Q8eBPfYP+UDYayAKeRbcOP7jBnyqs= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: KYBRHocVM1khNqrTYCEgrOLG3sqNF4Fmsis.pS9dr1yeSDPC1TV3gPNGulRN3uLKyLm9wT843mRJFGhZhDgO6qBcKhwlvil8lrlrXQDgD2k4rKPrh3.TDKIqfSCmE_N88dw.07HtUteTKQs04YflPJk_422jrvHLWJpQca1h.tjzN_HgGOMEImYfcVAsu6gfcYsKb_6VhdYoIzWh5CuuYAyqaZRyEBC7SCp9GsZuyawO5rl8d2H1x6OWTP1uRWTbDHsPzxu9KvWG0ivNrU7X8K11SrsWxVkATVaKOg1LDDNHsBDPYxwn9Kdg6L4_Bqsg8OXac8P8xXxRD9xOlfvHAIVk0y1Gr1Yvj98- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:13:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:13:37 +0000 (UTC) I love that.. "I don't like what your doing, but it's good." Let's see what else; "You'd have to be trippin' on LSD to enjoy this" "That was the weirdest gig I've ever been too. Can I get my photo with you?" And of course you have spent two weeks preparing a set and some jackass shouts "play some slayer" or "freebird"... :o) Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM, K D Patten wrote: >> OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got trashed > I played "experimental and totally improvised music" at a "Singer/songwriter's Night" at a local beer house, using tenor sax for livelooping. To my ears everyone else there tried to mimic some well known country artist I don't know the name of. I thought they should start throwing ashtrays and beer cans at me as I started to squeal and scramble on stage but it appeared about half of them appreciated my gig as "very, very different" while the other half thought I had been acting out to a pre recorded CD and they simply accepted "not understanding this art form". One guy said to me he did not like what I was doing but was glad anyway having witnessed "the most strange stuff so far". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.43/2281 - Release Date: 08/04/09 05:57:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 17:53:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FCF33BE87; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:53:02 -0700 References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: a8eb2f46-811f-11de-a75d-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVZfTsLCBpo UEhAUlNaHgBrCxwF SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0K0F5 OgxXYC0GZGZpbGlR WUdfOVJcJVFIKBtD d1h+VSUQYGRTM2cx QFI/emhpZGUAcSkE GVkDcUQoTBRDFzgg RlUGGjI3EFdNTSQ8 KAA9QjU2 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1849/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC) When I was in Rasputina nearly every concert there was someone who would yell "Freebird" during our shows. I just thought it was some kind of compliment, like "You're a free bird". Then I learned it was a song. Go figure. On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > "freebird"... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 18:06:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5220E3BE87; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249409204; bh=nzztiQYtAUIE3sTsi6MZKi9eiP1cBWVQVABgxEDDiVs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aat9h3YR2/VcafTgMPiJJlHY9gpiV/reaXtC6ThVEcQWP3TCobMUBV0NM8WaLHbNVkP9v3mxk5ZxKd7Zii1nu58BqpkS2urWl+MDz+cGoFd8ekQWF101zn8XOE1q9RHToux4NcdGHlQAFEMwYqvEojj/M4yuawKA35sHsXYhy+0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6af69HoDSknsyQHHLmZ/KBMWRErL41/Spluuzqm3PE05ppGtsEup9GVE0HitZaExQs0vCb8XoKPSUv9US911oEaYp1pXx4bmgXkxOk7ord4Kkx92izGRa0RFh5jLRQa2eDpjJXkw00nP0wa0jUp5GYGlgsw6iIQQWz70fszwEIE=; Message-ID: <519388.42378.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6bXQs58VM1n3PNcpMI2r7Oq91OJcsIu_hFSgS5dd1BSArzXdszALUjGWqzybGp4aE_Onv67vmz1e0ZraFkjRDbLwcLg67xQ2zMxxpOPcfi9Gzl.4y2RvGfmA..2byUyMXx.DRn2p7dSk174zPVqtVGeYPpdqNRVLW5kJ8MQ4ROm3uftdbpHUh.CG1dzulVWQrg05CRRgH54P2LxgMMdislJGKSHzTVPlkngg4LmDbZKRDSbBm0_VlWBLs4qlx2keDbE0skXI.dgJhYc5A5MSmjjtD95u8VQgzfG32vh6yGmeLtUV_nftc1R_NNEUDyLfR_DBo9DkiH3In.7LL2bfsXcM5VpuTlXrXMI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Petepong Phasukyud Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090804142937.96510@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-801033047-1249409204=:42378" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:06:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-801033047-1249409204=:42378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Omid. I've never heard about this one before. Is it too high for beginner?? 800 bucks!? Pete --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Buzap Buzap wrote: From: Buzap Buzap Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 9:29 PM Hi Omid can you tell a bit more about it? Is it worth it if you are not interested in the Harmonization? best regards Buzap --=20 Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate f=FCr nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 =0A=0A=0A --0-801033047-1249409204=:42378 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Aren't you known as "Mr. Rude"? :)

---= On Mon, 8/3/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:25 PM

Oh man, I used to get crap all the time.  I hav= e to admit I'd kind of
invite it though, but creating some crazy complex= loop and then
putting down my guitar and walking away to sit in the aud= ience for a
bit.  Someone would always say, "Wait, you're not playi= ng that?!" and
I'd reply, "well not any more I'm not."

Tons of ti= mes I get people coming right up to me and starting
conversations becaus= e they think I'd DJing it or something.  This is
even pre laptop.&n= bsp; Usually nerdy guys who want to talk about what gear
I'm using.
<= BR>Not quite looping (though he used a looper) my friend Gary used to
fe= ed samples from a laptop into a JamMan.  During a performance at a
= sculpture space a woman came up to him and mid performance loudly
said, = "Oh is this all prerecorded?!"  He politely tried to respond,
but I= think I yelled back at her and made her go away. She called me
rude, but I invited her to consider what's ruder, being chased away<= BR>from performers or pestering performers during a performance. Funny.
=
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM, K D Patten<kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  OK... My L= ooping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got trashed
> by = some acoustic purists at a gig because of my looping....evidently because> i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" player.....I'd like to hear yo= ur
> experiences with this kind of bigot
>
> Kyle
>=
> http= ://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
> http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten<= BR>>
>
>
>

Thank you Omid.

I've never heard about= this one before.

Is it too high for beginner?? 800 bucks!?

P= ete

--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net><= /b> wrote:

From: Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.= net>
Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please...
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 9= :29 PM

Hi Omid

can you tell a bit mo= re about it?
Is it worth it if you are not interested in the Harmonizati= on?

best regards
Buzap

--
Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Int= ernet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate
f=FCr nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02


=0A=0A --0-801033047-1249409204=:42378-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 18:07:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31F7C3BE87; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> <6C7F08BA72FC4D9F8E3A62F9B11BA896@a> Subject: Re: OT: cases Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:01:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 18:07:34.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[7102FAA0:01CA152E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:07:35 +0000 (UTC) I put mine inside my comupter case with the lappy. I put my mouse pad on top of the computer, then strap the RME over it. Works great. I like my RME and laptop to be with me all of the time, no checked in with luggage. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > On this note, I'm looking for a case for a 1/2 U audio interface. RME > Fireface 400. Does anyone know of anything that will fit this unit? > > Cheers, > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Milo" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: OT: cases > > >> So what do you use to carry your looping equipment? >> >> On 8/4/09, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: >>> if you ever need a custom made case for wind instruments or anything >>> else, check out howard wiseman's cases. >>> this man is a genius. he has a tetris kind of mind. >>> i just had my five flutes (from piccolo to contrabassflute) including >>> stand fitted into a ridiulously small case. >>> i can carry it easily on my shoulder, so finally i could give my old >>> tank of a flightcase a good kick into the corner >>> of my practice room (it's for sale, by the way - and cheap...). >>> >>> here's the link: http://www.wisemancases.com/ >>> >>> tilmann >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.43/2281 - Release Date: 08/04/09 > 05:57:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 18:09:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AAAB3BE99; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:09:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 18:09:14.0607 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACD91FF0:01CA152E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Having a fretless instrument, you should be able to do nice contemporary looping version of that song. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > When I was in Rasputina nearly every concert there was someone who would > yell "Freebird" during our shows. > I just thought it was some kind of compliment, like "You're a free bird". > Then I learned it was a song. Go figure. > > On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > >> "freebird"... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 18:14:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E90F33BED5; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NZmHJg8fCDhPhjbURcmdypMIotWIuKJQe8Uo/Bq1eWQ=; b=U+WtZK3RhOyW/OZjsk1sSOyKDqMXZM5F/ToB94b1puOMEIl6GV04+ebwaSOedt+kB2 wUC7xqaMgsoFGcUZQIAHR8Z8HuvGshJyxOgm2hpwcxw5fWYXo7+hx6kw+j4T/Vr+l6do XScwXQUB3sepaShKPk3UWFv6hXl8ZAIZTKRck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SEbFL0KZpaXktes/j7i0tuVhRce7M2mvTZiwI9qpz8t9pZIgrXSkKzmJYsorJ77FhC owQRYWfUgqz+9CA12ioFY3mtek5bbJ6/xjed1vTW8y+2G05DFiEvAfkuLW+WNwEYMGGk lyPHLJUgKOAPplYho2bBB1C4xPFjFJ+Jo2XrA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A777C51.7000506@Verizon.net> References: <4A777C51.7000506@Verizon.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:14:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:14:52 +0000 (UTC) While I'll agree that the Boss products (save for the DD20) never did anything loopwise for me, and maybe not you either, you can't say that they don't provide something that's maybe more important for a larger group of people. They seem set up to facilitate the pop song structure, but I've heard !LOOPSTATION! use one many times to great effect. But all of this really reminds me of why I turned my back on the hardware world. The cost of production is so high that you often end up with either products that serve the lowest common denominator, or are boutique products that cost as much as a used car.... with a huge gap of nothing in between. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 18:18:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 955543BED3; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jj8L4zZzZ7PJYYUNcXLGVRu67d4sNyLDkzfVNXuQrVQ=; b=IpUnNHtVnc9KR+sgyiSeIgXsED5r/UgHiBdsLG+B6il8RC3RbxvI1LYBQvsecBmzjR PEdnjbPiJZ3iVdFUjzarcUgU7PPdArXGoFcO+usWR/byX5sH25LtXNXblwV6T3PeQSic 3OxslxH+UlrOA6ZWy+3VqEQ1DsvkR4DgaEnlk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PjcVYZkta7IKYmxZ8Khlx3JF59YqUtMXpscVFAV+PYiToeaNuEFHM/hu6Swlmjyv7L nbvgHPks41ZvCl0EzCpNcjzkXSLNdKAnTDmpcH+rGeIDUL5MpQ21MePk2b3ZntQBpkJz pV0NwYWs5u4OZEw+3C2ads1QD5L+2dNhiD88w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:18:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:18:25 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > Aren't you known as "Mr. Rude"? :) Only to assholes! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 18:54:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CABB33BE8E; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=i7cYkJ9+Ac+VzEcsBGbF52HEqPfSxNDhB4+jedL73WI=; b=vMCRaaWDlYl2ZhRclTMkFtKbMlJhMAODa9aZW5pZMUHvc6E8YmtaIt2+s9kFIay+Om OYC4Q/k3Jqa+60pwJTW1eIhh1ZmhEr81ye558YXIUeIJzae/cC5w4sSiwxOSCg4g2F9Q qsX77e8kEt95t8z2oLrFhellCC6IKzknBUdhM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T9kcMDy3BQSPz0JX9EjA0kH5WxNDxfkt1ESYI4FHlb3nkiJEdYy992ThMYQ8hNjo9J Irx5sAxGbd2AabAjELv+KmvxnzFspz0ZWAL9VsBxzMpIyvhldP4Nk5M90BBNlwF52f7u zRS8KVCTcUI6e20Kh4w34QiyzfLhLJwazRnN8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A777C51.7000506@Verizon.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:54:10 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908041154n7474f0f8gd5a6d812bec39d2a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_AkOjC.A.OFG.SPIeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:54:10 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrot= e: > But all of this really reminds me of why I turned my back on the > hardware world. =C2=A0The cost of production is so high that you often en= d > up with either products that serve the lowest common denominator, or > are boutique products that cost as much as a used car.... with a huge > gap of nothing in between. Or (3) a manufacturer that goes belly up ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 18:59:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CCFF3BE8A; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9B/gT19k5B4qBvQwLrJNH7ZLgzovXeiHn26pwchdOEo=; b=g1V8HHzt+sMuhNue8yCB3qFL3T7nZndibYZ3//IImj1PUmSmf3wLlFuDIbu42OsweV EqBphOLlnOpInx/GqL1jimEMXwFW2mSPLmR/BW7+w+oHPSfkt1oZATSlbsJ0cAPf1Ny2 VeRcmQG9JNrLQEHK0qPOidm2J4vqZx2q/YIbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iVYNLynhXJvfNHPmUMlBppqYa3oDfbr2DGYFm4TZQN7VJlnWmHpZFSHZDIyKDzrjHv KYc7xayZTZhpG+3hyE4sSjos5Nr1fbpSw2NovAo2jDxsgskqEaTtlfymPIEj8wuyUOEX JPvHlY9asVtlFtWfu4xi3yjQ5NcDiL09P3+Jc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> <6C7F08BA72FC4D9F8E3A62F9B11BA896@a> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:59:29 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908041159kafebb5dge90704ad3fcdc03b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: cases From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:59:30 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I like my RME and laptop to be with me all of the time, I unplug the RME before going to the loo. Per - firewire fan :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 19:02:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27D6A3BE8F; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249412549; bh=lwjpu8A3dHLzvItbgFYtZX/hndkk5UXkvZZRELAPBt0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DCxbnNNbEV8MoAnIM/4YPjONXSI7dZAaLw/nZfQ8HoHf7S4gzwm/pHhEurJ9Su8jYxdZ0xUdqXWrOlL9vCYtVwByhLwqwX4I2vRwH1LfS/R35+frw4GvP+I79sv/0fWM3NUXElvfpGe5Fk9xKIFO+7zMQpppEUv49o2xQJHTkVA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SOT98hcHpsU7a2AG3zcUhpAwoq7g+MZD7tC857S95Ug224YbGWv/fwoVXlLUlIUfud51tYMZ+5C4qCdrUKCX1cf84+jRp78FUOmlcvQM50NGbWiaaBgjwRHVyZwGh4fQEU68HxZkLs7FQYn+bJdHgqIc+frZ5E8Mxcrb2BVvY7c=; Message-ID: <336805.67789.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OJAO900VM1lxrTTrrWkeo7C7jddGlVSC3__pc0ZDiIbvkVMrpURv1r9zZj16B7zVdffDM5XKRkPI4luuOcdpKCpfhBzNE9s.jpe0dJrVEoey3I4z7YzpiytvFPBRy9kYknDzdv37jhJw_s.e24JwTbZ7gYqFVW6TgU0yAsq0Lf5ST868rrIgapfF6O8qXCGMCtVNLlojpvjYEifRDjXiskPrVGiNF4ljWjivBnxKBuGw.i9srYzvq4r6i0KlNlxVfDq7G_I2WELSht4UqfMlqABszv7Jd3JHyhBIHNJSUShtEw91Bc_TpNUlVUbfwyFmMt6ehIfLEwznvOU4YLBgaasEoeJLcXqzJj.fDVxNXMjwTvU.92EpTrL1phUcrg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:02:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1687097385-1249412549=:67789" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:02:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-1687097385-1249412549=:67789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, at least you "know =A0thineself"! --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 2:18 PM On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > Aren't you known as "Mr. Rude"? :) Only to assholes! =0A=0A=0A --0-1687097385-1249412549=:67789 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, at least you "know  thineself"!
--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 2:18 PM

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Paul
Richards<= paulrichard_roc= ks@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Aren't you known as "Mr. Rude"? :)
<= BR>Only to assholes!


=0A=0A= =0A=0A --0-1687097385-1249412549=:67789-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 19:02:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 915903BEC3; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4587CACC23C848899B5BEA918632C8B7@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:02:37 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC) "wippin' post!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoe Keating" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots > When I was in Rasputina nearly every concert there was someone who > would yell "Freebird" during our shows. > I just thought it was some kind of compliment, like "You're a free > bird". Then I learned it was a song. Go figure. > > On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > >> "freebird"... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 19:08:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B94513BE93; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ipmjnebvKMYmG5cHdqopV7dFVFvF+T/wcnl5zBM2kE=; b=v1K0VfdlHEKBa3fHeBPogCp/h9yxSthoREW5w0gfUFipy/C/rWPsL5YwhATOAO0uS5 f1x79pA4iRA9zDqS/6VBzc3WAZLjloNKKIeSg+3hWBqorkV1ytJPCYwt8LA0lXkjZT6s hTZG71cxijy2DU+vZfKCb6NIABUh7FXd2O8iw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f0+7Bk4POrGoFPFHcrQqXvLO8BUO2ff7HTaZ7W30Lgde1QZNFFZ2IsInA6LJRq8T04 qrhdnbM23xbcDRIO1z85sqJSXnFJ2VaXj9DH6XCn3ljYkYKeYm+CppnQb6+rfYyPB4k8 zGC97ZcdrnZqXIc2vyzREre+Dbt1ZyyPbf9Dw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908041154n7474f0f8gd5a6d812bec39d2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A777C51.7000506@Verizon.net> <66f9cc1e0908041154n7474f0f8gd5a6d812bec39d2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:08:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:08:59 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Or (3) a manufacturer that goes belly up ;-) > There's just as much, or more, of a chance that a software dev goes belly up too. I recently noticed that Basement Arts, the developer of one of my favorite filters (Frantic Filter) is gone. No site, no mention... nothing. Of course, the software still operates and won't "break" but who knows if the next OS/computer configuration becomes incompatible. I also almost had a scare with Komplexer, a Waldorf emulation. For some odd reason it's been totally abandoned even though the company who developed it still exists. Word on the street the lead of development got snagged by Waldorf to make Largo (which is suspiciously similar in every way). So what about me? No upgrade path, no support (I had an issue with the install and Vista 64 and luckily someone on a forum helped me because the company just pointed me to an ftp site with a new version that was also broken). But yeah, it hurt when Elextrix went away. I see now that the EDP seems dead as well. So what are your choices if you want a MIDI syncable hardware looper these days... The Boss or the Looperlative? Seems slim pickings. You can criticize Boss, but at least they're making something. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 19:09:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 163953BED2; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=xPo4cHqGZ3fCiwMef+98Inp4ToltLxQ5qAUiiYdzkTQpiiVgpEfcPaOJc1IRfOZVZ45WqKzlmLddeawHVHNhETxDH8WtTNdl6Y6490VtUhfL3tx1ZFSZnvrbGgfbr/cgAEa2w4oBKDQbSuKzvmyV3gmpeHBDf36saqB7Yf5JLi4= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: IunmmzIVM1mY25Ch3usfijrXjAVXJLP622tlNjI2uy_At1dFDx79SBdf_UpBLStsjG0VK769u0DPgE7kEUFDz_IJ0dro.HAhC0fMlxWN1bk1IvBS9DBH9zhcU3EyXK1jR6G7qXWvhwZxODNftzd5LY44ZDtb1_LwVZ2uu4A.gJ5ryYxUEX1UZLl0f3vsX3srYFKM2jpalBQVcTpSHgvGN.S.Rn7kOV9MVrpkEd5ad5MXtJZYNuR68cs8auoMPIKmgAKhjN.BxyR4ScS4LXC8u_z9zzIFp8CwLt.GUY0gmY1AXoOL0YSbkhbE3JqBt_lcGN63zx8is9krylNrcfIjvpzHU_gVRnaOyR0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <5A37E9A6DC244A31AB2A9A38FC337122@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> <6C7F08BA72FC4D9F8E3A62F9B11BA896@a> Subject: Re: OT: cases Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:09:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:09:53 +0000 (UTC) I'm doing that at the minute, but I'd really like a well padded soft case for it. RME kindly encourage you to source one yourself, but as it turns out bespoke gig bags are quite expensive. :) If anyone has any suggestions or a bespoke service that isn't too expensive (if such a thing exists) please let me know. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: Re: OT: cases >I put mine inside my comupter case with the lappy. I put my mouse pad on > top of the computer, then strap the RME over it. Works great. I like my > RME > and laptop to be with me all of the time, no checked in with luggage. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> On this note, I'm looking for a case for a 1/2 U audio interface. RME >> Fireface 400. Does anyone know of anything that will fit this unit? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ricky >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Milo" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:46 PM >> Subject: Re: OT: cases >> >> >>> So what do you use to carry your looping equipment? >>> >>> On 8/4/09, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: >>>> if you ever need a custom made case for wind instruments or anything >>>> else, check out howard wiseman's cases. >>>> this man is a genius. he has a tetris kind of mind. >>>> i just had my five flutes (from piccolo to contrabassflute) including >>>> stand fitted into a ridiulously small case. >>>> i can carry it easily on my shoulder, so finally i could give my old >>>> tank of a flightcase a good kick into the corner >>>> of my practice room (it's for sale, by the way - and cheap...). >>>> >>>> here's the link: http://www.wisemancases.com/ >>>> >>>> tilmann >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.43/2281 - Release Date: >> 08/04/09 >> 05:57:00 >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.43/2281 - Release Date: 08/04/09 05:57:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 19:11:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DADE3BEE0; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> <6C7F08BA72FC4D9F8E3A62F9B11BA896@a> <66f9cc1e0908041159kafebb5dge90704ad3fcdc03b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: cases Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:11:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 19:11:51.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BFDA510:01CA1537] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:11:52 +0000 (UTC) You mean you don't pee in 24 bit? ;) ----- Original Message ----- > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Krispen Hartung > wrote: >> I like my RME and laptop to be with me all of the time, > > > I unplug the RME before going to the loo. > > Per > - firewire fan :-) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 19:17:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E2DC3BEF6; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qH5bEK7DRZicDF421HwEFqZMrXjUgchzs5FpJS6rd/4=; b=PR62mTpdkstSz6Yl6r4PYaSB2AtDbG2//zJ1IE5FFHjccjanoLjvt2bVAQm8J3bRr0 wl1YkYBCC+XAuQPlytQC7a2AQ4nxJPoXpsulTvm7xXbfhXKVnZOKfQT8WqPW1CTsYPuF 0VbaSNylT7kibyhHGjSDuETE0Zl3sxWPG7kNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KWT3gIJ14EpciK5i5ZrUab8BAYXGDCE36gPq5oJQXP4Dbrz9afhpul8JfWB/RFK3wO WtIZtYqSc84ao5cslbo5NYrxybtjsCdNGE2VtL81Ej5Xs1YNIbprjgyuomSJQLsqVodN G1fknUZS7SDDB7ZWpf/36XCaCRvXcqkheeTX0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <336805.67789.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <336805.67789.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:17:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Wow. You should really think about a job in stand up with that razor wit. Have you tried the "I'm rubber you're glue" come-back? I hear it's all the rage with 3rd graders, people with Down's Syndrom and people who think email addresses like "paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com" is a cool email address. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Well, at least you "know =A0thineself"! > > --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 2:18 PM > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Paul > Richards wrote: >> Aren't you known as "Mr. Rude"? :) > > Only to assholes! > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 20:04:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DB9C3BE8D; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249416280; bh=g/IhVldbiBWTnbiCJ+VEbJ5gmaI2gs6iePja6nV1IFg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pLJZH5yIY6vBvKpqSWopQ3d7aiPiDeGf36o8hSubFkIZhG89+2RRXzIxX5L494MS+9I1IDhlzxkMe6H7w146ye8eRhp/4Badd0vOPOXLBdql3/MnnYT1mn7ajAKxBsrWmBkSwmmo+PMSWijJz1rDh609fLixMXsUx+yJunM1pKg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gjj3snQTFKO4dFiEzde76qq4PZJ+TW1CcBtk3GiOVDSoBI114HvkzP+FA2S21L6CJpqvr/ld0SCR+K8WMCwInvP5IIT3yZR+Kvs2bvuJoZi8GalaSBEgSms/MbEP17/a0VSzqJPVmM6OgD5i66Ev9hEiAt+Gz0+uBY7AFHjoq/4=; Message-ID: <947124.48314.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aZPJpbIVM1mel.3wcuH5n3UzzrX6iLB2XdFbAp2ApYuLJmFZaRGcmYqFMjvpNgo28i3GNcodQEnx5eYDeVxxHqXoWISK8iVPozm_1TklfeEq0h5AjW1NgwIzSXTq..x62fSjXd16xtePPLmQdXU1SlaUjl.O1dq_wwdVM2tX7SZ2mhna.7mf.0G.EGBRVqJ7huvIlmqChYTRRfstClv5DVCAB6t2nvrNkR_Vqp4I6ccRw89pWmrgM4WzRuQ15ItX9Q4DjbEoRq3czr6Q_OEqfLCEdpYNxvNUzRP7XOAIIHkOP7uaSgYaMGOQtGgNIk3qrDUsqyAkud714TdrgAwhS1qMrStT2sHsV1iMmKWXttC0qUmp1AQDc46j0xeFrA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.1 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2028485679-1249416280=:48314" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:04:42 +0000 (UTC) --0-2028485679-1249416280=:48314 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HAHAHAHA! Are you describing yourself AGAIN? Isn't that what you did? WTF i= s "zerocrossing" supposed to be? Reminds me of a defunct communications com= pany. --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 3:17 PM Wow.=A0 You should really think about a job in stand up with that razor wit= . Have you tried the "I'm rubber you're glue" come-back?=A0 I hear it's all the rage with 3rd graders, people with Down's Syndrom and people who think email addresses like "paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com" is a cool email address. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Well, at least you "know =A0thineself"! > > --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 2:18 PM > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Paul > Richards wrote: >> Aren't you known as "Mr. Rude"? :) > > Only to assholes! > > > =0A=0A=0A --0-2028485679-1249416280=:48314 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HAHAHAHA! Are you describing yourself AGAIN? = Isn't that what you did? WTF is "zerocrossing" supposed to be? Reminds me o= f a defunct communications company.

--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Mark Sott= ilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 3:17 PM

Wow.  You should really think about a job in st= and up with that razor wit.

Have you tried the "I'm rubber you're gl= ue" come-back?  I hear it's
all the rage with 3rd graders, people w= ith Down's Syndrom and people
who think email addresses like "paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.c= om" is a cool
email address.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM,= Paul
Richards<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, at least you= "know  thineself"!
>
> --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Mark Sottilaro= <zerocrossing@gmail.c= om> wrote:
>
> From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re:= anti-looper bigots
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 2:18 PM
>
> On Tue, Aug 4,= 2009 at 8:09 AM, Paul
> Richards<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
&= gt;> Aren't you known as "Mr. Rude"? :)
>
> Only to assholes= !
>
>
>


= =0A=0A --0-2028485679-1249416280=:48314-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 20:15:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9B113BE94; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 591 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:15:17 UTC X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnABAA8xeEpOllRb/2dsb2JhbAAI1UOEGAU Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo From: fluke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Rev Fever , loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com In-Reply-To: References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:05:23 +0100 Message-Id: <1249416323.3772.0.camel@nik-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:15:17 +0000 (UTC) I guess no-one told that to Clem Burke. On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 01:58 -0700, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > the Rev Fevers wrote: > In successful pop drumming, as a rule, you tend not to want to use any > more than a 1/16 ratio > of fill to groove. And that's playing a lot of fills...........(that's > a one bar fill every four bars or > up to a one bar fill every sixteen bars, which is pretty over the top in > a pop song). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 21:16:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CDF53BE89; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: , , Subject: FreeWave Show #3 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:16:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA1516.86D48960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2009 21:16:25.0557 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3041850:01CA1548] Resent-Message-ID: <1CsrZD.A.drC.qUKeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:16:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA1516.86D48960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm behind, but here is FreeWave Show #3 and playlist. The blog page has = the link to play the selections. http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ Enjoy. Kris Hartung info@krispenhartung.com www.krispenhartung.com Play List Artist(s): Alexander Von Schlippenbach Song: The Living Music Album: The Living Music (1969) More info: http://www.jazzloft.com/p-36360-the-living-music.aspx Artist(s): Iannis Xenakis Song: Zbigniew Karkowski: Doing By Not Doing Album: Persepolis Remixes Edition 1 (2002) More info: http://www.amazon.com/Doing-By-Not/dp/B000TE1XHQ Artist(s): Jeff Kaiser & Andrew Pask Song: Blue Air Habit Album: The Choir Boys More info: http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD024.html Artist(s): Vladimir Ussachevsky Song: Sonic Contours, Piece for Tape Recorder, Computer Piece No. 1, Two = Sketches for a Computer Piece (Part I), and Two Sketches for a Computer = Piece (Part II) Album: Pioneers Of Electronic Music=20 More info: = http://www.amazon.com/Pioneers-Electronic-Vladimir-Ussachevsky-Davidovsky= /dp/B000EU1H44 Artist(s): Sun Ra Song: Space Is The Place Album: Space Is The Place (1972) More info: = http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=3Damg&sql=3D11:39ftxqtgld0e Artist(s): Roscoe Mitchell and Thomas Buckner Song: VFPSA Album: 8 O'Clock: Two Improvisations (2001) More info: = http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D274 Artist(s): Axel Dorner And Fred Lonberg-Holm Song: 5 Album: Object 1 (2003) More info: = http://www.emusic.com/artist/Axel-Dorner-And-Fred-Lonberg-Holm-MP3-Downlo= ad/11608691.html ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA1516.86D48960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm behind, but here is FreeWave Show = #3 and=20 playlist. The blog page has the link to play the = selections.
 
http://radio-boise-fre= ewave.blogspot.com/

Enjoy.

Kris Hartung
info@krispenhartung.com
www.krispenhartung.com
 
Play List

Artist(s): Alexander Von=20 Schlippenbach
Song: The Living Music
Album: The Living Music=20 (1969)
More info: http://www.jazzloft.com/p-36360-the-living-music.aspx

Artist(s):=20 Iannis Xenakis
Song: Zbigniew Karkowski: Doing By Not Doing
Album: = Persepolis Remixes Edition 1 (2002)
More info: http://www.amazon.com/Doing-By-Not/dp/B000TE1XHQ

Artist(s):=20 Jeff Kaiser & Andrew Pask
Song: Blue Air Habit
Album: The = Choir=20 Boys
More info: http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD024.html

A= rtist(s):=20 Vladimir Ussachevsky
Song: Sonic Contours, Piece for Tape Recorder, = Computer=20 Piece No. 1, Two Sketches for a Computer Piece (Part I), and Two = Sketches for a=20 Computer Piece (Part II)
Album: Pioneers Of Electronic Music
More = info:=20 http://www.amazon.com/Pioneers-Electronic-Vladimir-Ussach= evsky-Davidovsky/dp/B000EU1H44

Artist(s):=20 Sun Ra
Song: Space Is The Place
Album: Space Is The Place = (1972)
More=20 info: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=3Damg&sql=3D11:3= 9ftxqtgld0e

Artist(s):=20 Roscoe Mitchell and Thomas Buckner
Song: VFPSA
Album: 8 O'Clock: = Two=20 Improvisations (2001)
More info: http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductI= D=3D274

Artist(s):=20 Axel Dorner And Fred Lonberg-Holm
Song: 5
Album: Object 1 = (2003)
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------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA1516.86D48960-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 21:41:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA8553BE8D; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pUmDYsdqIH87rZ48x2qQMCJFzpbvKtP0pwfX4MrQpd/Lrx1BOk9r06p5xmX1rNpn1KsMSsLzWpyD13LWkGN6iYIF9Q9M5jcx78aGjLEYsg5FuF4uOj3ApQLlxiTFbc2tkTldj2LNls8v6cPapLCGz5nnVhlgWWL4nNTjDHm2adE= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: uF29XQ0VM1lWe5BDIowltkcOsPuW95FdB.HLZvGolcVJcWy4uHhcNW.e5cr.U2DMGS7DJkllWWB.4wnaFT_80JCekSCzgCiPIjA5Y9WE27OiBkpnw1Kl6yX3QNpz5b3D5OpL9CLV_Crhw89oH_H3DZf8x7Qf68iJeef.EH6JTAd8ZBjyQOaITASoboX3qCmu4w1AQXgeB8hypwWk2RVFsP8IKeQqXwLY.im0R.yfLd3aGVx4aOrJ7byWAtHhWwqRv0GPxX3QklSipdfkBHF2k.5xjE63jIhN4qSIPFyeWEQeSrIovb9Sh0zyKuZnjIl2PlNu5a00t2PXdhBbUwO0dj.9LhhOXqM9yi8- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> <6C7F08BA72FC4D9F8E3A62F9B11BA896@a> <66f9cc1e0908040905u31cb3de5nc2db232530a5d2d6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: cases Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:41:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:41:56 +0000 (UTC) "I often use that box and it fits perfectly into a big leg pocket if going with an aircraft " You're leg must be huge, Per. I would like a soft gig bag so I know there's a little bit of protection there. There's just something about it sitting there out of a rack that seems, well, risky. Cheers, Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: OT: cases > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Ricky > Graham wrote: >> On this note, I'm looking for a case for a 1/2 U audio interface. RME >> Fireface 400. Does anyone know of anything that will fit this unit? > > I often use that box and it fits perfectly into a big leg pocket if > going with an aircraft (helping you to stay free from over weight > fees). On the ground I just put some Bubble Wrapper around and fit it > it into my Peli case with the rest of my gear. The Peli case seems non > destructible. > > If using a classic rack (I did back in the hardware days with EDP and > Repeaters) you can mount the RME in a half wide one unit rack space > slot. Back then I had a Lexicon multi effect of the same half-wide > size and used a special "half-wide car" mounted in the rack to hold > the unit firmly. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.43/2281 - Release Date: 08/04/09 05:57:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 22:18:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D0D83BE88; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A78B4A0.3070904@dehnhard.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:22:24 +0200 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: cases References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18t176R9hX39KJRnxVBGTipUMvirp2rSKK61i0 YDG6jCERPrh7qCtpqkFzpIrLGgjm7UDFj1elQ0gc7VZAYNiFG3 YWfZT9nl0hmq8TdmD2CvB0O7rQcDAhs Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:18:27 +0000 (UTC) an m-audio bag for soundcard/laptop (and headphones plus small stuff). or a simple backpack. Milo schrieb: > So what do you use to carry your looping equipment? > > On 8/4/09, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > >> if you ever need a custom made case for wind instruments or anything >> else, check out howard wiseman's cases. >> this man is a genius. he has a tetris kind of mind. >> i just had my five flutes (from piccolo to contrabassflute) including >> stand fitted into a ridiulously small case. >> i can carry it easily on my shoulder, so finally i could give my old >> tank of a flightcase a good kick into the corner >> of my practice room (it's for sale, by the way - and cheap...). >> >> here's the link: http://www.wisemancases.com/ >> >> tilmann >> >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 22:40:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A16CF3BE84; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249425628; bh=JumNfBuKMyvWcofxoQSKi3yvIhriq2BhOHWfaLVrnTg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oL+Y5yYoBLhf4Wwm2dhEd6vgLM8jfpfWRno52Pv1KqSVs7ioiMc6kUDN7wBFytHImpQ5dnQTkBE2Q2KQ1IwHr+AsO1aPERWuyGbTMlxkPdkN3U3rmBWbXehSRCKc0osQARmy5/gi1r4nCtD+5Pju7oSuuF/Nf1OCASVWHYlVxG8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=56PiXlKBFkY+FmYwnxjBKvdTyUP9nwbps+orVNZTDQVNUkV/oxM7FY0VksnR2f+mbMH0sVXlyMSRipaXD8/HNfN4Kv9KGH2QDA8AQ77IuGGQZCpULjAmZIe2BhuBuVOhSR0azz4kCgPVt3Q0D7IzTwVjL107FwOWNowhRgiVMNc=; Message-ID: <363887.75110.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:40:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090804111550.104550@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2gJdbB.A.OlF.djLeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:40:29 +0000 (UTC) yes,sorry i meant the quantize feature,please correct me if im wrong becaus= e its been a long time but i remeber when tried the RC2 once, i had the fee= ling it didnt really react as i pressed the recording button a second time = and it seems it was trying to quantize the timing as i was trying to do rea= lly short loops...i just remember it being uncomfortable to loop with,not t= o mention the adding of those switches to do simple stuff like erase the lo= op,no feedback feature etc. it just felt very ackward...=0Abut the smoothes= t looper from boss ive tried is the dd-20 thoguh is not considered a looper= but a sound on sound device so Boss obviously has that philosophy,either y= ou loop or you echo dude;-)then again i dont know how the RC-50 or the RC-2= 0s are but im told they are all pretty similar.=0AI as well dont understand= what you are saying that all other looper have it...??maybe we are talking= about different things,the EDP starts and stops exactly as you press thats= why you can do the amazing glitching and granular stuff,as the DL4,LP1 or = even the little looper on the eventide timefactor can, i dont have the feel= ing they have some sort of built in quantize thing though i remember feelin= g this way about the repeater which i disliked as well...=0Acheers=0A=0Awww= .myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- Buzap Buzap = schrieb am Di, 4.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Buzap Buzap =0A> Betre= ff: Re: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com=0A> Datum: Dienstag, 4. August 2009, 4:15=0A> Hi Luis=0A> =0A> = > I guess what turns me off about this boss loopers is=0A> the fuction of t= rying=0A> > to correct your timing =0A> =0A> What do you mean with correcti= ng your timing?=0A> The only feature I'm aware of is quantize to another lo= op=0A> tempo.=0A> But all other loopers have this feature, too.=0A> =0A> be= st regards=0A> Buzap=0A> -- =0A> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Ex= plorer 8 und=0A> Mozilla Firefox 3 -=0A> sicherer, schneller und einfacher!= http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 22:46:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A06EA3BE89; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249426011; bh=p9fXIynoynic+4MmRVqEIB/ODVdxMpM8Eu3KkjPsy48=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cjkXh76dXJSwhVeW8ZvmfwsHTUN/sV9mWzlbAOqx6wW3PqVCnfQuS6XlQ9E/LfMk/DBIg9hhiz8BQSEpATzab+cd0FtnGtMtgA5q40uL27uXzH11LJyiUb5Yfh2JBqcOQPUC+xL/FBtLvvHBZD8gn+VS5Nsm7eEa8VRRa07CC24= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ys3vJZ1EBKH+CE+7XvMLTp9YCDRsHQSJWl3bOlOhjviIoAD1G6wsdVqBgmrIch9fZgev/75kXTJ7E05THcKKu9NWBBcjn94btuO9xbIMAyuu1tPjE48ijioqkm9AjeHLqEBvGXcGHiYcXmHt6HIBh1ul4zOeyXYl2Jh0pdSIoB8=; Message-ID: <704989.33195.qm@web39207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GprMyRoVM1lb5W_4caJzTK8Cnq8Dg_7VA8p_MMGA8YKC6cmE8dU3FZVmwhx7d6FuHmde_9F.DT2jXScpeugnOAWlCFxidRheVgRukK_ofEEmKsZWaqcSSJ82ykzwwa5h_1OVHhkRBjK26bKwHNfV8ThgrqlyoXIj2h7G_va8HieDBiWMxye6iEfwCMK90t6tMZ7vDfd0pEGM2a1DFJgcxqim3HW6oilSdmXf0OXhbjKd9Rh.ydZMT_1gZk82RnoAMacMc_ZLxIp5CChNmDTFZFV34sZ9RszD1rtJLkz07BBWvm4GtqIpJOdUahj38JVKHWL9xPGjT5yKd_gNFcM.HQGiVeV8hc0gkWYn.pZj9cE3mKjWRl_wkdBBN9uqrZ4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:46:51 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908040742u234b1b2bg831cc99b1758a09c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-683808156-1249426011=:33195" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:46:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-683808156-1249426011=:33195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good Point Kyle=20 --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Milo wrote: From: Milo Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 9:42 AM You got trashed because you didn't protect yourself. Next time, smile and walk away. Let them keep their big truths to themselves. If someone opens his mouth and starts explaining to you what you do right and what you ro wrong with your art, with your life, it is time to go. Let him talk to himself. He will not mind, he will not be offended. These kind of people talk to themselves even when they appear to be talking to someone else. It is like TV shows. On 8/4/09, K D Patten wrote: >=A0 OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got tras= hed > by some acoustic purists at a gig because of my looping....evidently beca= use > i loop it disqualifies me as a "real" player.....I'd like to hear your > experiences with this kind of bigot > > Kyle > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten --0-683808156-1249426011=:33195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good Point

Kyle



--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Milo <milo.vuc@gmail.com> wrot= e:

From: Milo <milo.vuc@gmail.com>Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 9:42 AM

= You got trashed because you didn't protect yourself. Next time, smile
an= d walk away. Let them keep their big truths to themselves. If
someone op= ens his mouth and starts explaining to you what you do right
and what you ro wrong with y= our art, with your life, it is time to go.
Let him talk to himself. He w= ill not mind, he will not be offended.
These kind of people talk to them= selves even when they appear to be
talking to someone else. It is like T= V shows.

On 8/4/09, K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com= > wrote:
>  OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story'= s.....i just got trashed
> by some acoustic purists at a gig because = of my looping....evidently because
> i loop it disqualifies me as a "= real" player.....I'd like to hear your
> experiences with this kind o= f bigot
>
> Kyle
>
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
= > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten

<= /blockquote>
--0-683808156-1249426011=:33195-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 4 23:00:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD9613BE85; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BOfUizPRxUA07dDcYkgtAvC6Yq/A2iyUsq0jAoGUPyN7SFNkKA+F1Mb1PrmyM+oJ; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <7153550.1249426807331.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:00:07 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd481a0fb617c7d257f272862bd828b16a34c4f26bf0bb8d15d7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.52 Resent-Message-ID: <2jFc3D.A.kOG.31LeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:00:07 +0000 (UTC) My too sense:
when i use real amplifier feedback(mos= t of my sets!) i've overheard someone call that 'cheating'(?)
the= y never even get to the looping :-)
and when i work w/ MERMEN and= when JimThomas guitarist goes to his rack and uses 'samples' of his own gu= itar-
some of the taper guys say that is cheating-and threaten to= turn off their tape machines while he is doing that.
seems crazy= to set up imaginary parameters for music&musicians.
staninsa= nfran


<= /tbody>


On 8= /4/09, K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com&g= t; wrote:
>  OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.= ....i just got trashed
> by some acoustic purists at a gig because of= my looping....evidently because
> i loop it disqualifies me as a "re= al" player.....I'd like to hear your
> experiences with this kind of = bigot
>
> Kyle
>
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
&g= t; http= ://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 00:58:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD7513BE85; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A78D9FE.7010906@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:01:50 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo References: <7334ca1b0908041011i1200a5bfha08b947bd8c9659d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908041011i1200a5bfha08b947bd8c9659d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Andy posted this link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hs-Ic-VobY > > Holy shit! I was at that exact concert! Let's see if I can still name > the band from the back of my head...Kenny Garrett on alto, Marylin > Mazur on Percussion, Benny Rietveld on bass, Robert Irving and Adam > Holzmann on keys, and then I think it's that guitarist that played > guitar on a bass guitar - Joseph Foley McCreary... I last heard Miles a couple years later, just a few months before he died. You could hear occasional flashes of pre-stroke Miles, but Kenny Garrett really carried the band. Of course, that could be my sax-player chauvinism speaking... My favorite Miles live performance was one I heard much earlier, by his Filles de Killimanjaro band. Corea and Holland were fresh from Corea's Circle group, which was pretty outside, and they'd lunge off into a kind of electric avant garde that was a lot denser (and to my ears more interesting) than Miles's later stuff. > Miles Davis may be the only jazz musician who > sounded completely Eighties without sounding tasteless ;) Hmm. I think that needs to go on my studio wall. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 01:07:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D240F3BE86; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A78DC0F.6010408@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:10:39 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:07:20 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > looppool@cruzio.com wrote: >> the Rev Fevers wrote: >> "I wonder how they felt when they later found out that he and Teo Marcero >> employed a lot of looping in the over all creation of Bitches Brew,etc. >> Speaking of that, here is some inspirational reading. Enjoy... >> >> http://milesite.blogspot.com/2009/02/teo-macero-on-producing-miles-davis.html >> >> > > The procedure as detailed there. > > 1) Session recorded > 2) Whole session mixed down > 3) Session edited to 8-9 minute masters (Teo + Miles) > 4) Teo uses editing to repeat sections of the music to make a whole album. If you know just where to listen on "Silent Way," you can hear somebody drop what sounds like a trumpet harmon mute. When the section is recapitulated later, you get to hear it again, suggesting that there was some cutting and pasting (actually, slicing and taping) going on in that album too. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 02:55:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 546943BE85; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=QAiG6qT0frMa17MIDmdPz+ugMzycJILiY74Qb7zmb/IiKtuudXnPGZ404cF1xFnw; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A78DC0F.6010408@gmail.com> References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> <4A78DC0F.6010408@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:55:24 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7910799449ba63f9e02960fea78501c778350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: <4a-j2C.A.wmF.lSPeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:55:33 +0000 (UTC) The entire piece is simply repeated at 8:00 or so... >>andy butler wrote: >If you know just where to listen on "Silent Way," you can hear >somebody drop what sounds like a trumpet harmon mute. When the >section is recapitulated later, you get to hear it again, suggesting >that there was some cutting and pasting (actually, slicing and >taping) going on in that album too. -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 03:18:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 644CB3BE81; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1249442331; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=RO/yiLx0iNBvTDSWI00Ql61Mz+Q=; b=Hf4JfgQPmIO5FLtHQudVyMm+MnlU38yFg3y5thhvMBUU5eEdjkhCY2fA/LIgx8bw laZXDUDx9hJSZUs7P3c6ih7wV/8W+Yr8EBkD8dZPRSjubdFuPzpcZDoLDTj/YesN; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6VZFC9xyAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=1lbqxuD8V1NUdS_-0yYA:9 a=RwDTQsokCmNDwrDfbe7ct0B6DuAA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501ca157b$bd12ff60$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: New EH Delay Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:20:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Well I need another delay pedal like I need a..actually I don't need another! Then why do I get excited when I see this? Hey it has an expression pedal input! No reverse though, darnit...but pedal control of delay or modulation might glitch just the right way! http://tinyurl.com/m2ljwd G.A.S. victim, Jeff "A mosquito died while seeking to develop a close relationship, its overtures swiftly declined, forever."_RF http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 03:27:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 769583BE81; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A78FC10.7000704@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:27:12 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New EH Delay References: <000501ca157b$bd12ff60$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000501ca157b$bd12ff60$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:27:17 +0000 (UTC) I just tried one out today, actually. Sounds really nice, and a good long delay time for an analog echo. The mod controls go from zero to 1000 right away, though, they seem only useful for really extreme seasick warbling. For the echo itself, especially with the expression pedal for delay time (wish it could control feedback!), seems like a great deal at $100 US. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Well I need another delay pedal like I need a..actually I don't need > another! Then why do I get excited when I see this? > Hey it has an expression pedal input! No reverse though, darnit...but > pedal control of delay or modulation might glitch just the right way! > > http://tinyurl.com/m2ljwd > > G.A.S. victim, > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 03:48:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 946583BE82; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1249444081; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=33kHqxTNr+vrTHsGCDrwvowad3c=; b=cdbx7pr5lOJ7tCylvftoAVL+8FAQuoXR2wddpaEvfpx3Prt8Q+e9i+Adfcj+t89G EZL+I31aForizbDIe1TedmY90kv68byFOCHC/7s1ofKhC6yvP05OUyFKnRYuWmPO; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UwE3cuQ_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=6VZFC9xyAAAA:20 a=sLror5hEAsBcxZVYSOQA:9 a=HGgZJiIUnxGYh9Gc4GdPfsntFYoA:4 a=BpqUGxorProA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601ca157f$cfec24f0$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000501ca157b$bd12ff60$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A78FC10.7000704@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: New EH Delay Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:50:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Hey Daryl, So the mod gets seasick warbling! Just the thing, can't get too much of that now can we! What does it do when you change the delay time with the exp pedal? Underwater whalelike sounds perhaps? You know how much I like those. :) Or did you get to try it with an exp pedal? And can you use delay and mod at the same time? Best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: Re: New EH Delay >I just tried one out today, actually. Sounds really nice, and a good long >delay time for an analog echo. The mod controls go from zero to 1000 right >away, though, they seem only useful for really extreme seasick warbling. > > For the echo itself, especially with the expression pedal for delay time > (wish it could control feedback!), seems like a great deal at $100 US. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> Well I need another delay pedal like I need a..actually I don't need >> another! Then why do I get excited when I see this? >> Hey it has an expression pedal input! No reverse though, darnit...but >> pedal control of delay or modulation might glitch just the right way! >> >> http://tinyurl.com/m2ljwd >> >> G.A.S. victim, >> >> Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 03:52:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0092A3BE8D; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A790213.4050407@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:52:51 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New EH Delay References: <000501ca157b$bd12ff60$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A78FC10.7000704@mhorse.com> <000601ca157f$cfec24f0$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000601ca157f$cfec24f0$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Hehehe...figured that might only inflate your GAS. I didn't get to try it w/the expression pedal, but I was whirling the delay time around by hand and enjoying the various whalelike (yup) noises, one of my fave things. May check it again tomorrow, w/the pedal, if so I'll give a fuller report. And yep, you get delay and mod at the same time. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hey Daryl, > > So the mod gets seasick warbling! Just the thing, can't get too much > of that now can we! > What does it do when you change the delay time with the exp pedal? > Underwater whalelike sounds perhaps? You know how much I like those. > :) Or did you get to try it with an exp pedal? > And can you use delay and mod at the same time? > > Best, > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:27 PM > Subject: Re: New EH Delay > > >> I just tried one out today, actually. Sounds really nice, and a good >> long delay time for an analog echo. The mod controls go from zero to >> 1000 right away, though, they seem only useful for really extreme >> seasick warbling. >> >> For the echo itself, especially with the expression pedal for delay >> time (wish it could control feedback!), seems like a great deal at >> $100 US. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >>> Well I need another delay pedal like I need a..actually I don't need >>> another! Then why do I get excited when I see this? >>> Hey it has an expression pedal input! No reverse though, >>> darnit...but pedal control of delay or modulation might glitch just >>> the right way! >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/m2ljwd >>> >>> G.A.S. victim, >>> >>> Jeff >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.44/2282 - Release Date: 08/04/09 18:01:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 07:38:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 085ED3BE84; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:38:11 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20090804150346.24120@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20090805073811.250830@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <309408.39430.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090804135608.160720@gmx.net> <20090804142937.96510@gmx.net> <20090804150346.24120@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/d+3AuXqrdnw1XQb7USH4NePGkwMeqkJ0n4GIsdQ rT8XFx6btTKdsMWwF7AcKD9pazBTszbSBqzw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: hVIRB8AAbHIhRtsjwjU0syYiJihyahDN X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi Omid yeah, I have the Voicetone Create which has similar features (see http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200811/msg00746.html). And the FX chain just sounds pretty much like the Voicetone Create+Correct. In fact, the whole things looks pretty much all their Voicetone pedals squeezed into one big box. I guess I just have to go into the store and check it out myself. best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 07:45:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08BA93BE82; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:45:31 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <363887.75110.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090805074531.22600@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <363887.75110.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX193aEkYK753+DJfLoAGsEKNLZLY5heHVCBbmyNIPq qkEcO6a6NRf2I5YbZRIGcN5Rty7s0x3eq+yA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: +FEcC7p8fW47V5NBjGRoHn9udmllcoV4 X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Resent-Message-ID: <-867GB.A.2rG.eiTeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, Rainer ok, I take it back... Not all loopers have it, of course. I should say a lot of software loopers I know (SooperLooper, Moebius...) have a quantize function. Luis: I was asking more specifically because people sometimes say "... doesn't work on the RC-50" but it's often something else. In your case, I would suspect that you wanted to create a very short loop (like on the EDP). Well,... this is one of the biggest disadvantages of the RC-* loopers: you have to have at least a few seconds of loop length... :-( Other than that quantize works extremely well on the RC-50: It can quantize very well even if you press the pedal slightly too late (unlike Moebius/Live). And it can also quantize to tempo of another loop (doesn't have to be same loop length). The RC-2, on the other hand, just has 1 loop, so you can't really quantize to another loop (to ryhthm track maybe, haven't tried it). best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 09:31:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E50D63BE81; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1249464717; bh=szXgYFv4QGceNPmdA5Umb8hZDh/x9dbCvfTJvh9mBTc=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=qKbiqJ8Ckx2Tgl8W7r1xh2V4I4nVMt5IxdUjiVP+0I5RGFizqv+Z4PIvdU2jNumYF 9o9ptoiaWYRR5Bm44AqxOLQ31d3PeOi+injmaso7PlAX5hYVMt2c1OlwCLM66mdfvE SAGMLJ7xjl/HKhvI/TTCDS3AD9w9WMoxyFRzboME= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:31:56 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Well, The problem is that the default settings of the RC-50 are not the setting= s most (EDP) loopers are used to. In fact, it recalculates the length of = the phrase based on the midi clock or the rhythmn guide. But you can chan= ge this behaviour: install OS 1.01 + sound priority mode sync. This has b= een documented on my website and I think I have send this info already se= veral times to the list. Anyway, if you are looking for a reliable, plug and play sound-on-sound l= ooper, the RC-50 is a good choice, especially live. If you are looking fo= r advanced delay and FX features to create more experimental music and gl= itchy stuff, the features of the RC-50 are probably too limited and you'r= e better off with a different looper. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 09:41:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40CB43BE82; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:40:56 +0200 From: "Omid Shirazi" In-Reply-To: <519388.42378.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090805094056.133000@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <519388.42378.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #47263965 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19DCVERp61DQVQiMcyr8DCEjioAWxKjdeNMFtlI8f 7bPVfeVDRufZzL1Qb++qydW4OFf/04tcy2/Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: n2tMfr95RkkNFqlKomZqdwludWkvKNO1 X-FuHaFi: 0.51 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Well, it is an instrument! It depends, what you do with that, so if you have a no. 1 hit with it in 2 years, it wasn´t too high;) Seriously: if you buy a compressor, eq, an fx-unit and a delay+reverb for the stage, you have much more to pay AND to carry... And actually you need this gears, if you wanna make phatt SOUNDs of your voice on stage. (But remember it is not a looper). By the way, I use some of their gears too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs This instrument I have invented myself. So nothing is too high, if you wanna do it:) Best, Omid -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:06:44 -0700 (PDT) > Von: Petepong Phasukyud > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... > Thank you Omid. > > I've never heard about this one before. > > Is it too high for beginner?? 800 bucks!? > > Pete > > --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > From: Buzap Buzap > Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please... > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 9:29 PM > > Hi Omid > > can you tell a bit more about it? > Is it worth it if you are not interested in the Harmonization? > > best regards > Buzap > > -- > Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate > für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > > > > -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 11:30:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08CB63BE7F; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A796DBE.50200@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:32:14 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Convolution and software loopers: HW specs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:30:46 +0000 (UTC) For running convolution/impulse software, not for reverbs but for amp/cab/mic/room emulation for DI operations, and simultaneously running a software looper, I need the per-application min. HW requirements: . cpu speed for single core . cpu speed for dual core . memory size (I believe memory bus speed is fairly irrerevant) If you only have specs for one of said applications, that's ok too. This is for an OSX install on a miniITX board (let's not get into the EULA stuff.. I pay, I use as I see fit). Any non-needed software will be stripped for the OSX installation. Needless to mention the looper must be an OSX release ;) Not talking about a very advanced looper, just so I can record, play, stop, replay, extend a phrase, stack one more phrase on top, and have whatever result gradually fading-out (preset fade time is ok). IIRC, 'we' have a comparison table of loopers somewhere; will loop for it.. is it fully updated? Anyone tried convolution on an Atom cpu? Single- or dual-core? -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 11:39:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1480A3BE7C; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:39:12 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:39:21 +0000 (UTC) > earlier in this thread I wrote: > "In a way, by introducing tape loops on 'In a Silent Way' (neglected as > the predecessor and I feel, the superior record to the more famous > "Bitches Brew") he was doing the same thing to the percussionists. > By introducing a static loop that held down the groove, in essence, the > percussionists and drummers were free to explore more. " To this, Andy Butler replied: "Rev's link does not confirm the methodology for recording that this suggests." No, but go read the liner notes of the remastered special edition of "In A Silent Way" or just listen carefully to the recordings themselves................it's very evident what is looped and what isn't. What I should have said is that the net effect of hearing the record made in this way has a direct line of inspiration to the percussive approaches of, say, the early Weather Report and their great percussion/drumming rhythm sections. ******* Also, you took me to task (by saying I"d had my 2nd espresso of the day) for talking about the expansion of timbres in percussion that came from that time period. I've studied percussion and the introduction of new percussion sounds/textures/cultures in modern popular music (and I"ll add jazz and jazz fusion to that list) since the early 70's and I did a lot of research into the history of percussive sounds in American music in particular back to the 19th century and you can clearly see that there was an explosion of new percussion textures in jazz, jazz fusion and popular music that starts right at this time. Before this time, so called ethnic influence in jazz had been limited to very small amounts of traditional West African music (and usually played on Afro Cuban and NOT African instruments), Afro-Caribbean musics (and almost entirely Afro Cuban and Afro Brazilian and NOT the other strong rhythmic style from the Caribbean ---Afro Haitian, Antillean, Jamaican, etc.) and a very tiny amount of Indian and Japanese influences. Around the time following 'In A Silent Way/Bitches Brew' there was a virtual explosion of new percussive timbres. This was way before successful companies like Latin Percussion had gigantic catalogues filled with percussion from around the world. Mind you, it's not that those instruments didn't exist (or the cultures that they came from weren't vibrant in their own countries) it's just they were impossible to find physically to purchase and play, at least in American (maybe the UK was different, but if it was, it's certainly not born out from the popular music that came from there at the time). I know because I fanatically searched it out in every city I visited in the US at that time. I studied Malinkan rhythms from a fantastic drummer who had learned his percussion in a state penitentiary and a student of his of all weird things. We played for a good two years before we even saw a Djembe. There were none on the West Coast of the US. Now every third hippy on the mall has one and they are available for purchase all over the planet. I remember seeing borrowing a Sufi woman's Tar and then after I had to return it, I didn't see another one for five more years, when I finally bought one. In the late 70's I put together a double Ghanaian Gonkokui Bell and a Brazillian double Agogo bell using a kluged stand that used two triangle holders, a hell of a lot of gaffing tape and a cymbal stand to play four bell Senegales bell parts for dance classes because there WERE NO percussion stands/ percussion trays/ cowbell footpedal beaters for sale. In those days, a metal Afuche and a Flexitone were incredibly exotic percussion instruments. One by one, I marked when I'd first hear a new sound or a new drum on a recording or in a performance. Things exploded percussively at the beginning of the fusion movement (which as long as we are talking about it, has to go to Tony Williams Lifetime 'Emergency' as the first record of the movement --- a record that Miles most definitely heard). So, 2nd espresso or no, I stand by my statement that timbre and texture ramped up considerably around this time and I think these records had a large part in that. I also think that "In a Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew" though not first in this movement, were, nonetheless vastly more influential on the subsequent history of the movement than the first records. I think the trance like qualities of both of those records had a huge influence on records to come that the rawer and far less groove oriented drumming of Tony Williams had, say, in "Emergency". Show me a single popular recording that sounded like "In a Silent Way" that precedes it. I say popular! There may have been more obscure predecessors but millions of people heard these records and certainly tens of thousands of musicians. Miles didn't invent anything really. Modalism existed before him, Trance music existed, Fusion Existed , blah, blah, blah. Somebody once said that artists are the antennae of a culture. They pick up change coming long before the rest of the population does and they broadcast it. Miles was certainly an antennae and he most certainly was a popularizer. He had an enormous influence on modern music and the sound of modern jazz and I think it's okay to credit him thusly. You don't have to take a single thing away from all the musicians you mentioned who also contributed to say that. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 12:43:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AED843BE84; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=giK9n1uK5GLw0g73CEdLiIcXlaqYzW2HLrUHUZVjXz4=; b=G4OGSiu6JrlkJPZZn7VewCnib8haRBHnDHfeqAh5Qe1zVrsb9dOC8PBkoXZVBp3QZk JiCcqwS3vB6ps7sjJAweNaR8dSPcw89VbtVoW8n8OpGIMYq+omdxrDRnYkIl8/xRXWf1 obs5W/vp1OgshN2knqZVmeeJRzzff681pOxlk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UjNgxjbi8mYnHMdTksEYGWXfRQc5QL7PP2M65O9YcpCizFR/ho3k5XHAlR27YcoX+g K0xTSqtWqQK0eoUjyT1sU+Sad3MoWylrF7eLkv+mrBWjQCBm8kHCbfes9wxgyj8JSq2x QiNnpr4OqM/v+Yg/DLArd4z7ArlODoQSi/Jc0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:43:17 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908050543x1d4e174ah23a89290b296a04b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:18 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Sjaak wrote: > Well, > The problem is that the default settings of the RC-50 are not the setting= s most (EDP) loopers are used to. In fact, it recalculates the length of th= e phrase based on the midi clock or the rhythmn guide. But you can change t= his behaviour: install OS 1.01 + sound priority mode sync. This has been do= cumented on my website and I think I have send this info already several ti= mes to the list. That's some essential RC-50 knowledge! > Anyway, if you are looking for a reliable, plug and play sound-on-sound l= ooper, the RC-50 is a good choice, especially live. If you are looking for = advanced delay and FX features to create more experimental music and glitch= y stuff, the features of the RC-50 are probably too limited and you're bett= er off with a different looper. I agree with Sjaak on this. I had an RC-50 for a week to check out and I helped a theatre to incorporate it into a play. A nice and simple box for those that wants what it delivers and is prepared to stick with a fixed functionality. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 14:40:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE0593BE79; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249483229; l=1955; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=qbD/SPLTZ8gm+dawccmaBNul1wI=; b=nGgVnp4pNmFtncHq9kp08aekCvU/3ASzwwTAsVCYhyk6hR0fuoNScCO1rU6rfu0UCol H90heJvbMTZICnlykVO9oTl3PxBZqgVxEtL1K71CmLmGPwBck4VCe9Mifk2cjv0Ayd6nB h/SzJ2ku6j6nXx05cO58sbTuG9+cW8U8VmE= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <008d01ca15db$2a2bdfe0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <66f9cc1e0908050543x1d4e174ah23a89290b296a04b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:29:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Yes, can totally agree. The RC-50 is very reliable, even if it might be functionally limited. The only thing which bothers me really is, that the loops are straight cut at the end. I mean if you switch to another patch (f.ex. from phrase 1 to phrase 2) or in general if the phrase will repeat itself, it doesn´t have a natural release. Phrases will be cut at the end. This can sound quite rough. But I guess you only find this option when working with (long) delays where you can use the natural smooth change mode. Best, Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:43 PM Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Sjaak wrote: > Well, > The problem is that the default settings of the RC-50 are not the settings most (EDP) loopers are used to. In fact, it recalculates the length of the phrase based on the midi clock or the rhythmn guide. But you can change this behaviour: install OS 1.01 + sound priority mode sync. This has been documented on my website and I think I have send this info already several times to the list. That's some essential RC-50 knowledge! > Anyway, if you are looking for a reliable, plug and play sound-on-sound looper, the RC-50 is a good choice, especially live. If you are looking for advanced delay and FX features to create more experimental music and glitchy stuff, the features of the RC-50 are probably too limited and you're better off with a different looper. I agree with Sjaak on this. I had an RC-50 for a week to check out and I helped a theatre to incorporate it into a play. A nice and simple box for those that wants what it delivers and is prepared to stick with a fixed functionality. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 14:51:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CC533BE81; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=t6zrLTeEPhKeFLuT6w8YoNap7Ee97GYpE+ApOx+O7cDNNfM/v23WGDmO7yjvN908H0MPgMMbki3TERq/ZR2i3nZOP2bQot+jP/P9mjmGwEkdvNZz3aojfE5mIy2NSFKc; Message-ID: <20090805095151.ad5xu9mzokgswg0w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:51:51 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <5iF2MC.A.crC.JyZeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Hello to all. (I am finally catching up with email and have a few minutes to =20 contribute to this thread.) I spose there are two kinds of criticism -- one that is simply the =20 reality that a listener may not like one's music. I kind of feel for =20 people who don't like my music because there really isn't anything I =20 can do about it nor anything they can do about it. Then there is the "snobbish" criticism wherein someone tries to =20 justify their criticism by erecting an arbitrary bar over which no-one =20 can jump. This has gone on for centuries. In the early (medievial) church, instruments were not allowed -- only =20 voices -- and -- only men's voices. Anything else was condemned. =20 Instruments were viewed with suspicion. They could play notes that a =20 singer couldn't hit and as such, was a form of "cheating". Of course, it didn't stop there. By the 16th century over seventy =20 rules governed the creation of vocal polyphonic music. To use a =20 tritone (the interval from C to F#) was FORBIDDEN. Of course, this =20 didn't last long because -- well -- it is kind of hard to avoid the =20 interval and it sounds cool. So, in Italy, Palestrina wrote some of the most "pure" counterpoint =20 while, in England, Byrd wrote some of the most dramatic -- with LOTS =20 of tritone cross-relations! There is, in some circles, snobbery regarding pipe organs. And even =20 though few organists can afford the money or space to have their own =20 instrument, the organ provided them by their church-employer often =20 becomes an arbitrary (and meaningless) measure of a musician's =20 competence. First of all, you have to play an organ with REAL pipes. If you play =20 a digital instrument, you are automatically viewed with suspicion. Then, the organ must have mechanical action (i.e., a "tracker organ"). =20 After that, it must have "authentic" pipe scales -- the list goes on =20 and on. And of course, everyone compares the size of their organs -- the =20 bigger the better -- and the SIZE is everything. (I know this is a =20 double-entendre -- hope you enjoyed it.) In my college days, low-wind pressure organs were the rage -- if you =20 played an organ with over 2" of wind, then "tisk tisk". Now the rage =20 is high wind pressure -- which means the "tracker" organs now must =20 have mechanical assists to be playable -- **sigh**. Well, there is no end to the arbitrary methods someone can use to look =20 down their nose at someone else. And so it is with technology. One could look down their nose at =20 someone else because: they use cheap equipment, they use expensive =20 equipment, they use too much equipment, don't know how to use =20 equipment, they use a laptop, they don't use a laptop, they =20 'pre-record' stuff, they use MIDI, they don't use MIDI, they are too =20 commercial, they are too amateur, the list goes on and on. I do music both for pay and for pleasure -- not always both at the same time= ! When I am paid my source of satisfaction comes from the notion that I =20 satisfied the customer -- that the customer had requirements and that, =20 as a professional, I fulfilled them. When I am not paid, while I still want to please the audience, my =20 satisfaction comes from the opportunity to play my own compositions or =20 improvisations. In the first situation (play for pay) criticism from anyone except my =20 employer is irrelevant. Even if I personally think a particular =20 selection sucks, that is not the point. The second situation is a little less straight-forward. I think I =20 would be criticized if I tried to be someone who I am not. If I tried =20 to, say, play pop music or jazz it would fall flat. I don't try to be =20 a musician who can play anything or do anything. People describe me =20 as "classical", "neo-classical", and "electronic" and that's what I =20 do. (I enjoy many forms of music that I wouldn't attempt to play =20 myself.) If someone asked me to do some "Slayer" -- I'd probably sing a couple =20 bars -- "Let me take you down -- dead before you hit the ground..." -- =20 and then inform them that they just heard the reason I don't do =20 Slayer. :) My favorite Slayer song is "Divine Intervention". I have not =20 attempted to perform this myself -- plus I don't think it would work =20 on theremin. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 14:56:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1EE93BE85; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1249484177; bh=TmcC4KTLehhbAnYJRjRuFQg68M/l5X6RMo64YH+ZYwc=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=S9pVVxa41WdwWEyWKRnseFBhxk1gRa8PPLZruPLU3li3vX2yj7qbTkEmabl6m+kPO s+76NUndo831q2YwIMcMRgUCJp6NN5nxMvYtwIg4EjyInfe6b/MxAi8twq5wg9xw0N WZp0hmEoSDia+sq6XoPeLqzEt9QYsMPdPDdvUezA= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:56:16 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:56:18 +0000 (UTC) > Christo wrote: > The only thing which bothers me really is, that the loops > are straight cut at the end. I mean if you switch to another patch (f.e= x. > from phrase 1 to phrase 2) or in general if the > phrase will repeat itself, it doesn=B4t have a natural release. You will see similar behaviour on other loopers like the Lp1 or Mobius wh= en you stop a loop (eg track or phrase). In fact, a loop is something els= e than a delay effect with feedback. That's why I often use a delay or re= verb as pre-looper; this gives me the ability to play a riff and use the = feedback of the pre-loop effect to slowly fade the riff out when the trac= k on the looper has stopped playing. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 15:06:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69ECE3BE80; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GuI7uPOX41FexjHVe9p2kuGU8GYE/fwHnMsJ1vAlWsY=; b=IayrxSoU974toJpIHBoB/eRyuAK1CGa2jOPjyNaOMy5f81d0s7y3VfAYaJYK48FqjT t26RuzcQ1IXqHmEU1vcmo26gRWcd80FxHPi1fsYdODOmztqbtj2vcll70e29Apt+LPps u5n3OUAFTgRJEvhTV5a1evx0QnuTeSUFQqm2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tYV+w1KMs4N24RI6aZ/wTMb60jqynBJ54xHiYzw/K8zFcmWbqzYh41X3OFETva4hFN EcapCvzCMIFR0TBSceajC4v8gLFP3H+jPqbdtCRrrZ1NkFxN6pS/H6VoXuqtMN7IDg/G wyeJ+kk7OCKzmQaZzeXC9azL6TJr2DwVJ7PRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:06:57 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908050806yaec8a23te973c454b7d04b55@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <34d49B.A.mYD.SAaeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:06:58 +0000 (UTC) >> Christo wrote: >> The only thing which bothers me really is, that the loops >> are straight cut at the end. I mean if you switch to another patch (f.ex= . >> from phrase 1 to phrase 2) or in general if the >> phrase will repeat itself, =C2=A0it doesn=C2=B4t have a natural release. You don't have to do it that way, if the abrupt switch doesn't fit with your music. Use a looper that allows several parallel loops and make the transit from one loop to the other with volume fades. Loop A as fade-out and Loop B as fade-in makes a nice crossfade transition from A to B. This can be done on the LP-1 or a software looper like SooperLooper or Mobius. Besides that, Mobius also offers the EDP style of abrupt loop shifting. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 15:33:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9612F3BE80; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A79A62B.4070609@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:32:59 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> <20090805095151.ad5xu9mzokgswg0w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20090805095151.ad5xu9mzokgswg0w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1INvMD.A.E8E.wYaeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Fascinating, informative and hilarious. Thanks Kevin! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hello to all. > > (I am finally catching up with email and have a few minutes to > contribute to this thread.) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 15:42:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E5FE3BE79; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:42:35 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <008d01ca15db$2a2bdfe0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Message-ID: <20090805154235.12210@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0908050543x1d4e174ah23a89290b296a04b@mail.gmail.com> <008d01ca15db$2a2bdfe0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/1IvNNhs/1YsX0DHKl4kYDniVSmw8FcCOyU1xmSj aiWRhwholA1yeVNBSE5LXj4dNoNSmwjarJ1g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: DtkQJbc8Mydhdf5OkWtla6JjaGRhZpo1 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: <3p_zLB.A.JkF.whaeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Christo > The only thing which bothers me really is, that the loops > are straight cut at the end. You do know that you can set automatic smooth fade-outs for loop-ends with the RC-50, right? I've used it for a while but now I have an expression pedal - like Per suggested - for the current phrase, so I fade-out manually. best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 15:44:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E9003BE75; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Dave Trenkel" To: References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> <20090805095151.ad5xu9mzokgswg0w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:44:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-ID: n75FiPxh032516 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.559, required 6, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.04, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:44:29 +0000 (UTC) "South of Heaven" actually has a nice harmonized melody in the intro that would probably sound great on Theremin. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots My favorite Slayer song is "Divine Intervention". I have not attempted to perform this myself -- plus I don't think it would work on theremin. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 15:53:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF7293BE81; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d8c53403-7e89-40b4-85c5-c42b4f7a757c_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:53:03 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2009 15:53:04.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1383910:01CA15E4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) --_d8c53403-7e89-40b4-85c5-c42b4f7a757c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey=2C Bill=2C I'm no academic in this realm by any stretch=2C but how do you figure in pe= ople like Martin Denny who seemed to ( perhaps=2C haphazardly) play any ins= trument they found from any part of the world? And=2C I think=2C maybe a fe= w years earlier than the mentioned masters. =20 JD =20 > Date: Wed=2C 5 Aug 2009 04:39:12 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo >=20 > > earlier in this thread I wrote: > > "In a way=2C by introducing tape loops on 'In a Silent Way' (neglected = as > > the predecessor and I feel=2C the superior record to the more famous > > "Bitches Brew") he was doing the same thing to the percussionists. > > By introducing a static loop that held down the groove=2C in essence=2C= the > > percussionists and drummers were free to explore more. " > To this=2C Andy Butler replied: >=20 > "Rev's link does not confirm the methodology for recording > that this suggests." >=20 > No=2C but go read the liner notes of the remastered special edition of "I= n=20 > A Silent Way" > or just listen carefully to the recordings=20 > themselves................it's very evident > what is looped and what isn't. >=20 > What I should have said is that the net effect of hearing the record=20 > made in this way has > a direct line of inspiration to the percussive approaches of=2C say=2C th= e=20 > early Weather Report and their > great percussion/drumming rhythm sections. >=20 >=20 > ******* > Also=2C you took me to task (by saying I"d had my 2nd espresso of the day= ) > for talking about the expansion of timbres in percussion that came from=20 > that time period. >=20 > I've studied percussion and the introduction of new percussion=20 > sounds/textures/cultures in > modern popular music (and I"ll add jazz and jazz fusion to that list)=20 > since the early 70's > and I did a lot of research into the history of percussive sounds in=20 > American music > in particular back to the 19th century and you can clearly see > that there was an explosion of new percussion textures in jazz=2C jazz=20 > fusion and popular music > that starts right at this time. >=20 > Before this time=2C so called ethnic influence in jazz had been limited=20 > to very small amounts of traditional West African > music (and usually played on Afro Cuban and NOT African instruments)=2C=20 > Afro-Caribbean musics > (and almost entirely Afro Cuban and Afro Brazilian and NOT the other=20 > strong rhythmic style from the > Caribbean ---Afro Haitian=2C Antillean=2C Jamaican=2C etc.) and a very ti= ny=20 > amount of Indian and Japanese > influences. >=20 > Around the time following 'In A Silent Way/Bitches Brew' there was a=20 > virtual explosion of new percussive timbres. > This was way before successful companies like Latin Percussion had=20 > gigantic catalogues filled with > percussion from around the world. >=20 > Mind you=2C it's not that those instruments didn't exist (or the cultures= =20 > that they came from weren't vibrant in their own countries) > it's just they were impossible to find physically to purchase and play=2C= =20 > at least in American (maybe the UK was different=2C but if it > was=2C it's certainly not born out from the popular music that came from= =20 > there at the time). I know because I fanatically searched it out > in every city I visited in the US at that time. >=20 > I studied Malinkan rhythms from a fantastic drummer who had learned his=20 > percussion in a state penitentiary and a student of his of all weird=20 > things. > We played for a good two years before we even saw a Djembe. There=20 > were none on the West Coast of the US. > Now every third hippy on the mall has one and they are available for=20 > purchase all over the planet. I remember seeing borrowing a Sufi=20 > woman's Tar > and then after I had to return it=2C I didn't see another one for five=20 > more years=2C when I finally bought one. >=20 > In the late 70's I put together a double Ghanaian Gonkokui Bell and a=20 > Brazillian double Agogo bell using a kluged > stand that used two triangle holders=2C a hell of a lot of gaffing tape=20 > and a cymbal stand to play four bell Senegales bell > parts for dance classes because there WERE NO percussion stands/=20 > percussion trays/ cowbell footpedal beaters for sale. >=20 > In those days=2C a metal Afuche and a Flexitone were incredibly exotic=20 > percussion instruments. > One by one=2C I marked when I'd first hear a new sound or a new drum on a= =20 > recording or in a performance. >=20 > Things exploded percussively at the beginning of the fusion movement=20 > (which as long as we are talking about it=2C > has to go to Tony Williams Lifetime 'Emergency' as the first record of=20 > the movement --- a record that Miles most > definitely heard). >=20 > So=2C 2nd espresso or no=2C I stand by my statement that timbre and=20 > texture ramped up considerably around this time > and I think these records had a large part in that. >=20 > I also think that "In a Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew" though not=20 > first in this movement=2C were=2C nonetheless > vastly more influential on the subsequent history of the movement than=20 > the first records. >=20 > I think the trance like qualities of both of those records had a huge=20 > influence on records to come that > the rawer and far less groove oriented drumming of Tony Williams had=2C=20 > say=2C in "Emergency". >=20 > Show me a single popular recording that sounded like "In a Silent Way"=20 > that precedes it. > I say popular! There may have been more obscure predecessors but=20 > millions of people heard these records > and certainly tens of thousands of musicians. >=20 > Miles didn't invent anything really. Modalism existed before him=2C=20 > Trance music existed=2C Fusion Existed =2C blah=2C blah=2C blah. >=20 > Somebody once said that artists are the antennae of a culture. They=20 > pick up change coming long before the rest of the population > does and they broadcast it. >=20 > Miles was certainly an antennae and he most certainly was a popularizer. > He had an enormous influence on modern music and the sound of modern=20 > jazz and I think it's okay > to credit him thusly. You don't have to take a single thing away from=20 > all the musicians you mentioned who also contributed > to say that. >=20 >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=3DPID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:e= n-US:SI_PH_software:082009= --_d8c53403-7e89-40b4-85c5-c42b4f7a757c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey=2C Bill=2C
I'm no academic in this realm by any stretch=2C but how do you figure in&nb= sp=3Bpeople like Martin Denny who seemed to ( perhaps=2C haphazardly) play = any =3Binstrument they found from any part of the world? And=2C I think= =2C maybe a few years earlier than the mentioned masters.
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>=3B Date: Wed=2C 5 Aug 2009 04:39:12 -0700
>=3B F= rom: looppool@cruzio.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= BR>>=3B Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles &=3B Teo
>=3B >=3B >=3B earlier in this thread I wrote:
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>=3B percussion from around = the world.
>=3B
>=3B Mind you=2C it's not that those instruments= didn't exist (or the cultures
>=3B that they came from weren't vibra= nt in their own countries)
>=3B it's just they were impossible to find= physically to purchase and play=2C
>=3B at least in American (maybe = the UK was different=2C but if it
>=3B was=2C it's certainly not born = out from the popular music that came from
>=3B there at the time). I = know because I fanatically searched it out
>=3B in every city I visite= d in the US at that time.
>=3B
>=3B I studied Malinkan rhythms f= rom a fantastic drummer who had learned his
>=3B percussion in a stat= e penitentiary and a student of his of all weird
>=3B things.
>= =3B We played for a good two years before we even saw a Djembe. There
&= gt=3B were none on the West Coast of the US.
>=3B Now every third hipp= y on the mall has one and they are available for
>=3B purchase all ov= er the planet. I remember seeing borrowing a Sufi
>=3B woman's Tar>=3B and then after I had to return it=2C I didn't see another one for f= ive
>=3B more years=2C when I finally bought one.
>=3B
>= =3B In the late 70's I put together a double Ghanaian Gonkokui Bell and a <= BR>>=3B Brazillian double Agogo bell using a kluged
>=3B stand that = used two triangle holders=2C a hell of a lot of gaffing tape
>=3B and= a cymbal stand to play four bell Senegales bell
>=3B parts for dance = classes because there WERE NO percussion stands/
>=3B percussion tray= s/ cowbell footpedal beaters for sale.
>=3B
>=3B In those days= =2C a metal Afuche and a Flexitone were incredibly exotic
>=3B percus= sion instruments.
>=3B One by one=2C I marked when I'd first hear a ne= w sound or a new drum on a
>=3B recording or in a performance.
>= =3B
>=3B Things exploded percussively at the beginning of the fusion = movement
>=3B (which as long as we are talking about it=2C
>=3B = has to go to Tony Williams Lifetime 'Emergency' as the first record of
= >=3B the movement --- a record that Miles most
>=3B definitely heard= ).
>=3B
>=3B So=2C 2nd espresso or no=2C I stand by my statement= that timbre and
>=3B texture ramped up considerably around this time=
>=3B and I think these records had a large part in that.
>=3B >=3B I also think that "In a Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew" though not =
>=3B first in this movement=2C were=2C nonetheless
>=3B vastly m= ore influential on the subsequent history of the movement than
>=3B t= he first records.
>=3B
>=3B I think the trance like qualities of= both of those records had a huge
>=3B influence on records to come t= hat
>=3B the rawer and far less groove oriented drumming of Tony Willi= ams had=2C
>=3B say=2C in "Emergency".
>=3B
>=3B Show me a= single popular recording that sounded like "In a Silent Way"
>=3B th= at precedes it.
>=3B I say popular! There may have been more obscure p= redecessors but
>=3B millions of people heard these records
>=3B= and certainly tens of thousands of musicians.
>=3B
>=3B Miles d= idn't invent anything really. Modalism existed before him=2C
>=3B Tra= nce music existed=2C Fusion Existed =2C blah=2C blah=2C blah.
>=3B >=3B Somebody once said that artists are the antennae of a culture. They=
>=3B pick up change coming long before the rest of the population>=3B does and they broadcast it.
>=3B
>=3B Miles was certainl= y an antennae and he most certainly was a popularizer.
>=3B He had an = enormous influence on modern music and the sound of modern
>=3B jazz = and I think it's okay
>=3B to credit him thusly. You don't have to tak= e a single thing away from
>=3B all the musicians you mentioned who a= lso contributed
>=3B to say that.
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
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Get free photo software from Windows Live Click here. = --_d8c53403-7e89-40b4-85c5-c42b4f7a757c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 17:05:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 544793BE82; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1249491909; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=wwmXGGAoIBUwW7UDABPXgwexG+U=; b=HUns5Bzi4G9X5MOy2oNlyG76RZA6c4ZgD8fC5tlqNYjKbdv+yM4DbweYGHNduuUF lWEmnZIWA884N0NVdFrSyc5YrjXCfG/QzXNAPMgnt34TR250Pot3fEyY8JgEPLeS; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=UwE3cuQ_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=6VZFC9xyAAAA:20 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=FiefXQOxhqdaRG3YCFcA:9 a=BAgWwx6ybOZ7Xl8OgJUA:7 a=vr5A29xOeMFlZOjhyPXf2Nk5rrcA:4 a=BpqUGxorProA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001801ca15ee$e33dac30$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000501ca157b$bd12ff60$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A78FC10.7000704@mhorse.com> <000601ca157f$cfec24f0$27862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A790213.4050407@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: New EH Delay Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:05:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:05:10 +0000 (UTC) The vid is out now. A very cool pedal. Glitchyness abounds. Now officially in penny saving mode. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PBKxhp6uKM Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace "A mosquito died while seeking to develop a close relationship, its overtures swiftly declined, forever."_RF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:52 PM Subject: Re: New EH Delay > Hehehe...figured that might only inflate your GAS. I didn't get to try it > w/the expression pedal, but I was whirling the delay time around by hand > and enjoying the various whalelike (yup) noises, one of my fave things. > May check it again tomorrow, w/the pedal, if so I'll give a fuller report. > > And yep, you get delay and mod at the same time. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> Hey Daryl, >> >> So the mod gets seasick warbling! Just the thing, can't get too much of >> that now can we! >> What does it do when you change the delay time with the exp pedal? >> Underwater whalelike sounds perhaps? You know how much I like those. :) >> Or did you get to try it with an exp pedal? >> And can you use delay and mod at the same time? >> >> Best, >> >> Jeff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:27 PM >> Subject: Re: New EH Delay >> >> >>> I just tried one out today, actually. Sounds really nice, and a good >>> long delay time for an analog echo. The mod controls go from zero to >>> 1000 right away, though, they seem only useful for really extreme >>> seasick warbling. >>> >>> For the echo itself, especially with the expression pedal for delay time >>> (wish it could control feedback!), seems like a great deal at $100 US. >>> >>> Daryl Shawn >>> www.swanwelder.com >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> >>>> Well I need another delay pedal like I need a..actually I don't need >>>> another! Then why do I get excited when I see this? >>>> Hey it has an expression pedal input! No reverse though, darnit...but >>>> pedal control of delay or modulation might glitch just the right way! >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/m2ljwd >>>> >>>> G.A.S. victim, >>>> >>>> Jeff >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: >> 270.13.44/2282 - Release Date: 08/04/09 18:01:00 >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 17:05:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD013BE87; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=s22p4wXHPp9cj0EPz/FTIWnFU5OYNIjGf78DANTlOma2UR7E+Kl9JR8LO2KZLNGJ; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: Paul Sullivan To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-90-601816840 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: NYC gig spam: Lambic @ Issue Project Room TONIGHT @ 8 pm Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:05:56 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79fef7c1e69064c627f5d56ea029269daf350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 72.68.165.95 Resent-Message-ID: <0Px2cD.A.GWC.1vbeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:05:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-90-601816840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, everyone This is the end of our mini tour, our last gig of the summer and it promises to be a great gig. Lambic Jones ( Lambic + Percy Jones on fretless bass) is playing at Issue Project Room in Brooklyn. We're sharing the bill with another great band, Frank Vigroux and Matthew Bourne feat. Ellery Eskelin. Lots of looping going on...Hope to see you ! Issue Project Room 232 3rd St Brooklyn (bet 4th and 3rd Ave) 8:00 http://issueprojectroom.org/2009/07/03/franck-vigroux-electronics-guitar-matthew-bourne-piano-synth-featuring-ellery-eskelin-saxophone/ http://myspace.com/lambic http://cdbaby.com/cd/lambic --Apple-Mail-90-601816840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, everyone

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= --Apple-Mail-90-601816840-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 17:12:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 178A23BE80; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9WbLLB34eWCf0xGHVETfd6K36R3HygeHfQdtfcEk248=; b=qTmGZ0QXfMtjobgu/4uxHnlk7HsAXXACbr3Q7wruhlgJqTzRF2dTcKX9NUnf7kKVUr N63cIB19Yib7DTvA3+9T1c90AZNkVCgQbsOEb7/Y3WdKBu8DaMhMnJH55cJULwXmwc5l eokjmicKOCHIPEiFS3jtS/H+kxJ8BpEyDqtU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=br3a9i4Sk1kJ5NQI62gHWDR2xg1kuWoAAk4OxIdR/ktHiAQIkXGOs1HgIOVSbWyP9M AZoII5SHTNDz0rZ3U/LHnG25wdbiH/XH2B3AbB7o+7ICZWpVC86uF2BoKB1idcfxh8/r FbFBfeOiNGqHzPnpkkGlOZkhCR6OiNa/dX9bs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> <20090805095151.ad5xu9mzokgswg0w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:12:07 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908051012u35be21b8m15238bc3d5e8091d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b5174e5a240470681abc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:12:10 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b5174e5a240470681abc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Love the Slayer story Kevin as well as the church forbidden 'tri-tones' and to take that further when I was a freshman music major studying first year theory according to Paul Hindemith, we were instructed to avoid parallel fifths in all of our assignments, strangely that was the writing on the wall for me and was to become my favorite interval in so many directions. My own mother, as much as I love and respect her once said to me, 'do you think anybody will really like your music?'. Artistic rejection is a tough nut and hard to take yet most of us who create beyond the walls of our bedroom, deal with risk for the kernal of light or praise or realization that some soul was touched by what we were expressing. I have a solo fretless guitar improv video on YouTube that I've taken a lot of flack on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvk2lQTxgUs&feature=channel_page . When I began to kind of vent on one that got to me to my son he said, 'they won Dad (meaning they got a raz out of you) but at least they took the time to listen'. I try to remember the latter before reacting anymore. The cool thing about this thread and Kyle's coming here to LD to start it is, the trust and support this community has the potential to give and for me personally that often means a lot. Good day to all. j -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b5174e5a240470681abc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Love the Slayer story Kevin as well as the church forbidden 'tri-t= ones' and to take that further when I was a freshman music major studyi= ng first year theory according to Paul Hindemith, we were instructed to avo= id parallel fifths in all of our assignments, strangely that was the writin= g on the wall for me and was to become my favorite interval in so many dire= ctions.
=A0
My own mother, as much as I love and respect her once said to me, '= ;do you think anybody will really like your music?'.
=A0
Artistic rejection is a tough nut and hard to take yet most of us who = create beyond the walls of our bedroom, deal with=A0risk for the kernal of = light or praise or realization that some soul was touched by what we were e= xpressing.
=A0
I have a solo fretless guitar improv video on YouTube that I've ta= ken a lot of flack on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dxvk2lQTxgUs= &feature=3Dchannel_page=A0.=A0 When I began to kind of vent on one = that got to me to my son he said, 'they won Dad (meaning they got a raz= out of you) but at least they took the time to listen'.=A0 I try to re= member the latter before reacting anymore.
=A0
The cool thing about this thread and Kyle's coming here to LD to s= tart it is, the trust and support this community has the potential to give = and for me personally that often means a lot.
=A0
Good day to all.
=A0
j

--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music li= nks...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= /a>
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001636c5b5174e5a240470681abc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 17:27:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6047F3BE81; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 241470083/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.136.72/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.136.72 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgABAA9deUpPTohI/2dsb2JhbAAI1iCEGAWKHQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,329,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="241470083" Message-ID: <4A79C4A0.5080003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:42:56 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sonuus Guitar to Midi References: <001301ca1462$aaad38f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <4A77EDEF.6050409@tiscali.co.uk> <00d301ca151a$e5ac5590$0201a8c0@Toshiba> In-Reply-To: <00d301ca151a$e5ac5590$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Christo Jota wrote: > Not sure if I understand what you mean, Andy. Sonuus always puts out pitch bend info, over a range 2 semitones up 2 semitones down. Your midi synth responds to midi pitch bend. It has a pitch bend range you can set for each patch. Make sense? So you have to set the pitch bend range on your synth to 2 semitones up 2 semitones down. Then it matches up with the Sonuus. If on the other hand ..and hey, your synth's in tune with your guitar as you bend the string. Additionally:- Most midi converters for guitar get the right pitch in this way:- 1) Guess the nearest note and send a Note-On 2) If the note's wrong, send Midi pitch bend to make it sound right. So..switching off the pitch bend on your synth isn't usually a good idea, you get more wrong notes. ...but don't not try it just because of what i say :-) > You´re probably right when saying I have to learn to damp the other 5 > strings. > But that probably keeps me from a relaxed way of playing... :-) depends how much you wanna be in control. > Christo > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 17:28:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEA523BE7E; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:28:01 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249492880; bh=rHpphHYS1QS5u+2EkHdC7/J+Hsl08//lARL8ZOfStU8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3xOXbgM2AX5kCWStBKn8L6AhPIToYg/njtyIrjB9a2J68FDf2P3bupCnV7wiQFt130HVSQbz4O0Qfc7iojFP1o2Ue8DlNKKG/hYeeJ5bG45EtKo8DTDOKsPdcdRZ/teq9IKNgmWau6DNq7t2zkWjDXdBkINgvYCniLUpMgtfQn4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FcIYuw60tV25tUtncQDrcW0nnSNmwMFg+G+ckyIiCaMNJ+BnpUvNqi56VK8C1qOO24bvdRMtGXlUb8QAUixfgZWp0cxNOmvItZGPvloA/mXtu/jL5QT459eUF3mlVgcJ7QPfKTbxENRcA/pzoIcZXJyc+gxp3TYSrG+Vtz1aalo=; Message-ID: <291632.79656.qm@web54002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: yne_sh4VM1nHA8IupcJ.FT6ltYxXXbn3ipjl_5hYHfR2hbP.texKAJNB5BtJsdcG5MIGGE7Lygc5GTQIGuPOXmCK7xTWTV2yNHAPR3fMjsJvca7NixexPbPgzI2sCFFYiROll6fOTljDuf0NXxTantqDx.hUk7ql9uvaJSMf0w7Sv2pGeeHWCthuCs29gGhMJz7NRPuImAOzvDruVZk5SBVDJ492vtpGVcZT8zuMExQDNA7w16iOMRlUTMdux1mPQohc6cV0SbgrnrbHCe9t2B8E5FApFlC42oVBvRQbvBcKnZABG0SZS0Bj_XIVgQfSiS.Hr0dl5jnPuXUBLqRc_RW2WTpiIoRUmJH5_oo- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: murkie Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots (who aren't listening) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:28:01 +0000 (UTC) --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Krispen Hartung wrote: > ...is that real or fake? Who the hell cares. Anyone > who gets hung up on > these things probably isn't listening Exactly! They are not listening. This does not really apply to the acoustic purists but I blame MTV (only partly) for helping to encourage the mindset that music is something you watch (insert LSD joke of choice here). More than once I've told a critic to close their eyes and tell me if they hear music. Friends used to think (when I was onstage or when we'd go to gigs as audients) because I kept my head down and eyes closed I was having a miserable time when in reality I was actually listening (and usually enjoying myself immensely). Years ago when my former band was in the midst of an improvisation, a young lady (who I assume was chemically altered) came up to the side of the stage and "exposed herself" to the band. I was completely unaware of this until the end of the set when we stopped playing and another band member told me about it. Hmmm... on second thought maybe I should keep my eyes open more often onstage. m www.TwistedAppleRecords.com Stone Document's Anamnesis now available from iTunes!http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=301414103&s=143441 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 19:27:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C5493BE7F; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A79DD02.10206@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:26:58 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:27:06 +0000 (UTC) JD wrote: " Hey, Bill, I'm no academic in this realm by any stretch, but how do you figure in people like Martin Denny who seemed to ( perhaps, haphazardly) play any instrument they found from any part of the world? And, I think, maybe a few years earlier than the mentioned masters." Hey JD, I'm going to assume that you made the mistake that our father used to make all the time (and all our friends as well) and that you confused me, Rick , with my brother Bill. If not, disregard my reply and wait for one from Bill. It's just that you quoted my post to respond to so I'll make the obvious assumption. So, my answer is that I'm really talking about popular movements in music: movements that affected the masses and the largest share of musicians in general. People like Martin Denny (and David Lindley in our country) were vastly ahead of the curve in their fusion of ethnic musics and instruments and styles so they are the exception to the phenomena I've been talking about. They also didn't start an avalanche of influence that resulted in people copying what they did. They are magnificent islands in the stream of that popular musical history. Also, I was speaking pretty specifically about percussion which is my lifelong field of expertise, so I wasn't really referring to string instruments. What instruments did Martin Denny play in those days out of curiosity? Lindley , pretty specifically, was playing Americana folk instruments and a couple of instruments from the Middleeast in his group Kaleidescope in the late 60's. ******************* ******************* So called 'ethnic music' (a term which I"m really uncomfortable as I consider rock 'n roll to be folk music and hence, ethnic, just the music of the folk of my country and others) has been prevalent in the Colonial (Imperialist) countries since those countries started conquering peoples around the world. In the sixties and early seventies I found lots of many records on the Nonesuch label of world traditional music. There were just very few of them where I live in Northern California compared to the explosion that would occur with the so called 'World Beat' movement that I would be part of in the early 80's. Modern popular music and jazz just didn't have a lot of influence from these cultures for the most part. In my small part of the world, during the early to mid eighties that there was an explosion in commercial interest in world music, both traditional and fusion varieties. Before that, however, in my home town, Santa Cruz, which at one point had the only large concert venue dedicated specifically to World Music and World Music Fusion (World Beat----that horrid, horrid term again) I remember lobbying and lobbying the booker for the local large rock showcase club, the Catalyst until he relented and booked the first Reggae bands, the first African Bands, the first Middleeastern groups. In those days I was so fanatically and obsessively interested in so called World Music that I did everything in my power to bring it to my community. I remember my wife at the time, Janet Ring and I going down to the Civic Auditorium and at 7:00 a.m. in the morning to meet a bewildered group of musicians from the Uzulu Dance Theatre to bring them back to our home for bagels and coffee and private lessons and dance classes I'd set up for them to make some money so that they would come teach us about their artistry. A mere five years after these humble beginnings, acts like Thomas Mapfumo, Youssou NDour, Babtunde Olatunji, Sunny Ade, Johnny Clegg and Savuka, the Gypsy Kings, Les Negresses Verte, a plethora of big Reggae Acts to numerous to mention and many, many other groups from the Middleeast were suddenly headliners at all the biggest venues and their were multiple clubs that catered partially or entirely to them. Then, in Santa Cruz, this amazing world instrument (though primarily percussion) store called Rhythm Fusion opened up...............Places like Lark in the Morning which for a long time had catered to ethnic music enthusiasts suddenly began to have increasingly large catalogues and ever since it's been a cornucopia if you wanted to start finding unusual ethnic instruments to start to learn on. And , of course, all of this refers to just what was commercially available to people and musicians where I live. Every part of the world has a slightly different time line for this explosion of influences and access to the musical instruments that made them. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 19:38:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66B2A3BE81; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:38:48 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1Qi2AC.A.cpH.Q_deKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, If anyone is interested, I just put up a youtube video page for Bill's project, New Delta. *_www.youtube.com/billwalkersnewdelta_* I posted four tracks (the entire performance) of our first show opening for the wonderful Argentine looper, Juana Molina at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz. The group , featuring all of Bill's compositions, revolves around his psychedelic slide guitar and lap steel, weissenborn, LP-1 live looping improvisations using inspiration from musics of the Mississippi, Nile, Ganges and Yangtze Delta regions. I accompany him, playing different exotic percussion instruments (giant calabash, liquid glass ghatam, kanjira and korg wave drum). It was a really fun gig and the video came out decently so I hope you all enjoy them. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 21:18:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B75453BE80; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ipSYRQMkhOWoI3xwAfL09N86vKijmWhj64G8a1EBSr0=; b=bi6UW+nTflSKfMAp0VIayRSHTLT/C7k1yK+pDKrqhcjTv3Z91cKFpovu1u7VX/OFOn gvsc7KXk+laKERgXDpwt9mm2Yg831punnJR0xpowagxkvdd8EIfX1fyelZyXx8aWfbXz Hg8vzXGcK53yRJx4Eh6kkUO/zjVjZhGhlOUms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=A52G60zfwW5KMUl+nUhJ8a0RANqvIgSS7G6vsyvUFmQNQLI0sGUNmncyqDPVse5c2h VyxiJvVqsDJDtZJVei/wUsp9d65R7BVl8jrQXsnt9jD21WvPgoFSuL2Tvdn6N1WVuj8+ YT5/aNyeR0oMJyS3RJ/4LTsl68jsVP+VwOk/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908051012u35be21b8m15238bc3d5e8091d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> <20090805095151.ad5xu9mzokgswg0w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <9e0440a60908051012u35be21b8m15238bc3d5e8091d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:18:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4dfb10d622c2328a Message-ID: <101191640908051418w4c92f0eo1ba224876620f2d5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:18:53 +0000 (UTC) I think there's a psychological component at work in all these stories - we remember the negative words vividly, for all our lives, and we don't treat the positive ones nearly as well. For every ahole audience member I've ever encountered, there are at least 5 or 10 who have come up to me and told me how much they dug what I was doing, maybe more. But I don't remember their words or the experiences anywhere near as well. It's weird, it's kind of sick, but I think we're all built that way. Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 21:55:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 368AE3BE79; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bCB5z7dAZYhp1YvoImNBbt057naguzvcETQ2+Uq1pbc=; b=iqvU6vgZuWG9unVunXSiljTh1Zr+K6+mGyXdpxez23uc+y2IIw+AtavTm8ZmZ2MZ1i vyLIOKYKGfmwVC5CkJOJLfR0G/hELNfjWzz0O0FFSfWOAyL8Bag/c/0GOR1qaDrG7x6c Dg4MLkiKOPwalY50RqMc8vKsMI6QU5oZXj+vM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=x2ZyP3JuX0DmVQjnBdJ5pzp2AVXX3Jo7gnokZA8vns0XhQ1dqu4XfrNj/iLNDg+Nov yg5zz3RnyLNGTp+nPtRqNtATOh+LEuYQEya0eGOLU8L44vs0IDD6V2a1hrjbyGIvQFE1 VPZKGCvPDUuP352t0ItBMzY7XCSU1yKMTemZs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:55:54 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908051455m483dff37g1f9dcf640a8f8cc8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Review: Jomox T-Resonator - short video From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0NOe1C.A.9sD.s_feKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Regarding my review I posted recently - here's the promised video of some no-input configuration of the Jomox T-Resonator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxovfT-Gdg Have fun! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 22:01:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 420B33BE7F; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KnryiuxC+w9N9tpo+zZHDwDWs3MmDVtzFC9Kz3n+2/A=; b=SxF7Jf9S1V5f9SDBklCcMsRbZrnk3FO2zM0lQRBEcEwyrQnJE1qwcXI5JXG+LHqDii Jr+YepI7o0cSXGjM8VEcAahQaw98FvLeVcQo7la84aQ5Bpqq771WZDhmKITJAAfBZx41 ufgyDc9KGu6QCTY+KxxTqUDxlBFKG16+FeBso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=sieVxo57R43LWPJPV0HuVabCVmPL6JIZIlVbFE0q++a/sE5hTKJBz/wZfihdB5wuMU NBCca6LkegSLc2r2Luaj3hiCj09e4QeMKTz8Ib1hCIsGEcjyPNYvU8MrXcvOYKFSuS8N hXk6UbT8ZeODhSZiHC23wFUjvrSmBHIEnpRUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:01:52 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908051501j722b64f3kb9b9344c9bfbd238@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:01:54 +0000 (UTC) > I think there's a psychological component at work in all these stories > It's weird, it's kind of sick, but I think we're all built that way. No, I'm not - so you'd at least need to rephrase that as "most of us are built that way". ;) Perhaps having that inverse filtering - that you vividly remember the encouraging words, the crowds going crazy much more than the assholes - is much more important than the 10.000 hours of practice recently discussed? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 22:08:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFBE83BE79; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2kysmGcOb6lUS+6aOZvbz23GrNp27oiAiJA/UyHIsBk=; b=Tw5OxwJhGi2x+oUMYcfXh4QRzRJUWqdmGC+nSmoDB8TZ3iTScnVxLJH6GhzjxNj61e SRQ/ldDCG4ZndTJeljL7wekPVAUTfXVEWTozW/Fz84bnquZvshGh3YQXeWMsb+64DL5G islGlh66JRlBhmi/GSMvzHsZsrvwjK30Cdsps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lIeGd26qp7pBQz6SBJ5nyloKhGecQ1fS8Ef5mIoP8fe6r7ZxJdYkuHupdD/Ge8WOqI 42FZ+Vu07q+3hd0N4F7s4Ey49j4FTx7JV//s40thbA4K2lSHASJtulKOiaK22W9qijjp pBZT3IvP1ncXKrdhALOk40+ezhQHz6nDESFMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:08:51 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:08:53 +0000 (UTC) > when I was a freshman music major studying first year theory according to Paul Hindemith, we were instructed to avoid parallel fifths in all of our assignments The rule to never use parallel fifths (and octaves and primes) is much older than Hindemith and comes from the early Baroque era. Now for us power chord generation people, this rule is often hard to understand, and so it makes sense to see where it originally came from: Back in the early Baroque era, the human voice was an important instrument, not only as a lead instrument, but also in multi-voice harmonies (as in choral harmonies). Now the predominant singing style at that time for solo singers was to sing jumps portamento, i.e. for a fifth jump from D to A not sing the D, then sing the A, but to sing a quick glissando from D to A. Now obviously, if several singers were doing that in a homphonic passage, then they all would do that glissando with a slightly different timing - which would mean they wouldn't be in exact intervals during the glissando. Now this sounds especially ugly if you are moving in parallel in very pure intervals - prime, octave and fifth - so this was to be avoided. Just my historical two cents. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 22:17:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E3383BE79; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PtH3zYJYV+T5HkxjgY3Pmarahwlvy0MqMngh3DWolII=; b=lrXsl+f9SEE53MW5Dhwojw3suo5n/jafXxlGp2Z5LNGo1vjrLfHmbVjVT6d0RjrwY6 0fNSZcT0zJ1uzjxjVk69Yo7mJUnifM4mi+ww1NRE1dC38NXNguMk/bdu7fsfvvZxwfS9 3aZIORv/RAQvMxF56WbA1ZBYfNDqa9QYye7ls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WQbI8mTe75xnCDU51XYh4aMRfU6NAQ1gaOH1T1GXvWdJOhbC4WEsWxQLEznCUPR+o2 v4ohDo0xXjBTURmsiZAibZN8uzOxCcECG8bFXR9HKHQHy1zKWSy42EAr0S/h0W+GlGnt zNQen3VH70SNf1es6YUzImvoYK48b2q8V1zXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:17:14 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:17:15 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Now obviously, if several singers were doing that in a homphonic > passage, then they all would do that glissando with a slightly > different timing - which would mean they wouldn't be in exact > intervals during the glissando. > Now this sounds especially ugly if you are moving in parallel in very > pure intervals - prime, octave and fifth - so this was to be avoided. > > Just my historical two cents. Very interesting historical two cents. Wonder what those early Baroque era people would think about the multi glissandi THX jingle! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 5 22:41:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7939A3BE7E; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249512078; bh=9IydTsiP/3aFsyzng2xu6WiViaJ+fMqLM5PuUKRjCsk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tz4X+W2R9l5PjzJpcg1LMCnla6SYCvHunz8kdRNPul+MYvGJf2SLrAh/8Og411e7IkT+o+PyNizOw9XIlQZPaHknBu+pWjEp6LgNopV+ASWsOYciJhpgD8bSZaQnPkXHjUvMPNqdZpq47HIrQ1nIvvODkHGC2bw2F2Dey/a+yc4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kwKbh8OMU3Skq8nadWRBc8X1uANYchbL3dk1wvcQEDFNz8Ckp1luJJJ+QVD0wi10a2cecq1YVhWlwBAOkN4PlmfWDPk/k7MLnQyXgf8yVtvFggSAeFWJmPYuwDej/wV/rrfKm/KYp6V1qJ2k4cEuWBveS9dX8fo9zlLMu0SYZCI=; Message-ID: <508663.73808.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cpz0dkUVM1lZiGnm2Hpwo_78BxFeRjB8MCaiSrv7LHQLiSbl2XiBo4SERxXpxJQdgP.CvAK.nppIi7R9Opmci2X7MM7_u.2zTsKxVVoxnHApWSfjT1Ek1F2RpEkB0US6k8cHzRrDMEEcbvc0zizQjXhpWp.9y8eFhfcymlRy6dYP_DjgR30q0bjBQiQhmPUQQLWLWkWhNoGhr_AzmOOrXtbC0HnZy9HO6fpIYWRUu7rsHtqs6rIfT1HvjdNwmQuupNq92dkPhixDwGzZT8cja0IvyEngYk6orI5bHGP2ttoypYEwT0s1dS85Za9..Od.omHBVni1Fe.qfW3vyjrOTbrZloYXI0.HmDi34icklcuDny0bWR3f6JZ2OD9syI4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:41:18 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640908051418w4c92f0eo1ba224876620f2d5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1729414223-1249512078=:73808" Resent-Message-ID: <9_PBAC.A.usF.PqgeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:41:19 +0000 (UTC) --0-1729414223-1249512078=:73808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i total agree ,i had many say they loved it ...but the ones that gave me shit are the ones i will remember...guess i need to work on getting a thicker skin Kyle --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Warren Sirota wrote: From: Warren Sirota Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:18 PM I think there's a psychological component at work in all these stories - we remember the negative words vividly, for all our lives, and we don't treat the positive ones nearly as well. For every ahole audience member I've ever encountered, there are at least 5 or 10 who have come up to me and told me how much they dug what I was doing, maybe more. But I don't remember their words or the experiences anywhere near as well. It's weird, it's kind of sick, but I think we're all built that way. Warren --0-1729414223-1249512078=:73808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
i total agree ,i had many say they loved it ...but the ones that gave me shit are the ones i will remember...guess i need to work on getting a thicker skin

Kyle




--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:

From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:18 PM

I think there's a psychological component at work in all these stories
- we remember the negative words vividly, for all our lives, and we
don't treat the positive ones nearly as well. For every ahole audience
member I've ever encountered, there are at least 5 or 10 who have come
up to me and told me how much they dug what I was doing, maybe more.
But I don't remember their words or the experiences anywhere near as
well. It's weird, it's kind of sick, but I think we're all built that
way.

Warren

--0-1729414223-1249512078=:73808-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 00:13:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B68453BE7E; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:16:52 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Very interesting historical two cents. Wonder what those early Baroque > era people would think about the multi glissandi THX jingle! :-) They'd be hiding under the theater seats, I imagine. :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 00:29:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 001753BE7E; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WKggQg9qT3/E6nN1WtmVyr1ccwPztCQkgLmsfNgwA0o=; b=eLpmffHVgLr3HvOCVrorsWlvmziwRF+6t6xI6RTtWpkFhOfn3ZLhpb/jb1ovSna/GL guBcRADRqPzoxQda84n2RsBJMAWh/NB9k7dVj+ryPA+JndwMv1lzl0ofhjekxMCqk8Ph +2Pm1y+wvRjo8JD0ZvuYcg+ZLdZA1kvnPR1rQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rKleENu41aLcyLe5oPtaF/QtpeMZVBZ/pdq+S+U1hiUKiKGfBhGBp2yJKofq4j2JdP zk8dn1EdbIQiZlZx2VPb4680RyrP/ec8xvkm9DyyJJIuvr3otUND/b1nTPlwM/p4dawU U8NGHip9l7Tr+uPzSss/meBGGCejjebUDaIz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 02:29:46 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908051729g53736f2fo796a11d3d5b6e4ac@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:29:46 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: > >> Very interesting historical two cents. Wonder what those early Baroque >> era people would think about the multi glissandi THX jingle! :-) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Brian Good wrote: > They'd be hiding under the theater seats, I imagine. :-) > BTW I just remembered something about the Baroque era. When Matthias Grob was here in Sweden we played at a television documentary whose producer told us that she thought we were "following up on the Baroque tradition". This surprising view she based on the Baroque praxis to improvise around themes, as we tried to do in ensemble livelooping. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 00:30:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 733C23BE79; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7A24F7.4030107@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:33:59 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> <20090805095151.ad5xu9mzokgswg0w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <9e0440a60908051012u35be21b8m15238bc3d5e8091d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908051012u35be21b8m15238bc3d5e8091d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Jim Goodin wrote: > Love the Slayer story Kevin as well as the church forbidden 'tri-tones' > and to take that further when I was a freshman music major studying > first year theory according to Paul Hindemith, we were instructed to > avoid parallel fifths in all of our assignments, strangely that was the > writing on the wall for me and was to become my favorite interval in so > many directions. I know there are authoritarian clowns who insist on rule-following with no rational justification. But I've always taken rules like "no parallel fifths" to be things you work with while you're learning, temporary limitations you agree to in order to develop compositional control. You learn to recognize parallel fifths, you learn why you might want to avoid them in a particular style of music--and then you do what you want when you're making your own music. An old teacher once told me that he didn't introduce rules so that his students would follow them rigidly. He presented the rules he used to get his sound as a case study. When a student of his went on to develop a musical language of his/her own, with different rules, he considered it a great success. I've recently been infatuated with a Jon Hassell sort of 1-2-5 parallel voicing on my soprano, using a pitch shifter. Everything I play that way incorporates parallel fifths. Nobody has tried to punch me out yet for doing it. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 00:32:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0D133BE7F; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7A2550.3030605@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:35:28 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo References: <20090804083434.478403BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A7831EC.500@tiscali.co.uk> <4A78DC0F.6010408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > The entire piece is simply repeated at 8:00 or so... Hmm. I thought the solos weren't repeated. But I may be remembering one of the other things on the album; it's been a long time since I heard it. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 00:44:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DABF43BE79; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> <20090805095151.ad5xu9mzokgswg0w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <9e0440a60908051012u35be21b8m15238bc3d5e8091d@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A24F7.4030107@gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:44:48 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:44:55 +0000 (UTC) The no parallel fifths rule is mostly for part-writing music for multiple monophonic instruments. It's a good rule--if you write a four part chorale and it suddenly sounds hollow, parallel intervals is probably the reason why. If you're making up guitar or bass parts and they're not in 3 part harmony or if they're distorted, parallel fifths could sound wonderful. I have experience with being in bands and having a guitar and bass doing complementary lines that will sound like crap at one point, then I look at the notes being played(usually a parallel interval), adjust one of my notes to another octave, and it sounds SO much better. \t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Good" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots > Jim Goodin wrote: >> Love the Slayer story Kevin as well as the church forbidden 'tri-tones' >> and to take that further when I was a freshman music major studying first >> year theory according to Paul Hindemith, we were instructed to avoid >> parallel fifths in all of our assignments, strangely that was the writing >> on the wall for me and was to become my favorite interval in so many >> directions. > > I know there are authoritarian clowns who insist on rule-following with no > rational justification. But I've always taken rules like "no parallel > fifths" to be things you work with while you're learning, temporary > limitations you agree to in order to develop compositional control. You > learn to recognize parallel fifths, you learn why you might want to avoid > them in a particular style of music--and then you do what you want when > you're making your own music. > > An old teacher once told me that he didn't introduce rules so that his > students would follow them rigidly. He presented the rules he used to get > his sound as a case study. When a student of his went on to develop a > musical language of his/her own, with different rules, he considered it a > great success. > > I've recently been infatuated with a Jon Hassell sort of 1-2-5 parallel > voicing on my soprano, using a pitch shifter. Everything I play that way > incorporates parallel fifths. Nobody has tried to punch me out yet for > doing it. > > Brian > > From servizi@monetaonline.it Thu Aug 6 00:49:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 454 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:49:27 UTC Received: from zyvax.com (mail.zyvax.com [63.175.100.173]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0617F3BE77; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spam [151.47.181.128] by zyvax.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A5AD3CA0154; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:37:01 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Carta Flash" Subject: La password de la sua carta Flash Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 02.37.12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081 Message-Id: <200908052037286.SM03396@spam> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Untitled

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 00:54:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E59833BE82; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MGF7PbkWsm04DEMFuhFctknUA//rlCQC4cyhPLZ3+3w=; b=Uh0GUy7tO1LP132knN8s9HXSG2ViwhSxkfsFdGult5YtCEgOqsLRVngc8+GiJA3vqi IYkuchycmKp0/p0Q5CLw+qRDZyjKINVkkYex3FlvFP1jC1pnjrMtSTcMHcaJf8OMILYc N97rjOxoAtOjY+JDNwNgwciNhPO0frbMlnVcs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vX4oRw2bDwWGBHcZkubFILIy7kYqgumTlxWEb5tjap2Xw790I/uT3qjstzX2lBliMe WbHevTsjsUHP/oWYEVvV7Wi/stPsLe/J+4GmScJZRfVvwwQ/I1tc9EsEsgkPsmqidk5o es3aqNSJujmLgONHUh8opZrSRjs/rQRg0Baos= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908051501j722b64f3kb9b9344c9bfbd238@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908051501j722b64f3kb9b9344c9bfbd238@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:54:54 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 111a41713b9b563c Message-ID: <101191640908051754mcf37916o164624f80c108857@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:54:54 +0000 (UTC) well, thank you for overturning my presumption. really, and sorry for makin= g it. i will ponder this. actually, i am already. Warren On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> I think there's a psychological component at work in all these stories >> It's weird, it's kind of sick, but I think we're all built that way. > > No, I'm not - so you'd at least need to rephrase that as "most of us > are built that way". ;) > > Perhaps having that inverse filtering - that you vividly remember the > encouraging words, the crowds going crazy much more than the assholes > - is much more important than the 10.000 hours of practice recently > discussed? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 01:15:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02A963BE87; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 489 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:15:36 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mtHwu3ih4gdT+VWt+lwX3lL3GXcoK4BL+ejQNcuezvQ=; b=qNQedLITAK0P75AWNsBgFJ704dJIfUrAFAB5B4jOsXMym0H/ysFskGIHsXYMtbQvad BBjmQb7Ynt0CgGl1D5AEuxaOGNIOxMDmhoPSBG41hoxBSwgnJJNaVtB7ZAsn0y48vImn 0FUanvmESo2yHCFsM1odWPo4TcUpYfePnM4Jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=APtPtT5wy9YQi0ICwrJHG/1dy7ewvKQhRTMhTLeLxeP8wGwhooMFNBr5W/WeEi3nkO U6FPkfsKs8fE2qtYoM8/5KncAUudPupXrJ1Mw/6u/yr0UgB/Mlsb3EPDpTcJcfJdWrHC cJdS+uP/WsFRlv0pZXC8FXk9K/0PIFH0tX4PY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:07:24 -0700 Message-ID: <333287c30908051807l1e409abeq3340691359eb5608@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151748e73616e99604706ebe65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:15:36 +0000 (UTC) --00151748e73616e99604706ebe65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was having a conversation the other day about making a circuit bent synth/sampler that had a "freebird" button. ie somebody yells it, you hit the "freebird button", stun them for a second... And then, fuck it the hell up. Sample/resample/glitch/sequence and give them something new. -nn happyhumans.org On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Ricky Graham < rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote: > I love that.. "I don't like what your doing, but it's good." > > Let's see what else; > > "You'd have to be trippin' on LSD to enjoy this" > > "That was the weirdest gig I've ever been too. Can I get my photo with > you?" > > And of course you have spent two weeks preparing a set and some jackass > shouts "play some slayer" or "freebird"... > > :o) > > Ricky > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Paul > Richards wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM, K D Patten wrote: >> >>> OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got trashed >>> >> >> > I played "experimental and totally improvised music" at a > "Singer/songwriter's Night" at a local beer house, using tenor sax > for livelooping. To my ears everyone else there tried to mimic some > well known country artist I don't know the name of. I thought they > should start throwing ashtrays and beer cans at me as I started to > squeal and scramble on stage but it appeared about half of them > appreciated my gig as "very, very different" while the other half > thought I had been acting out to a pre recorded CD and they simply > accepted "not understanding this art form". One guy said to me he did > not like what I was doing but was glad anyway having witnessed "the > most strange stuff so far". > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.43/2281 - Release Date: 08/04/09 > 05:57:00 > > --00151748e73616e99604706ebe65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was having a conversation the other day about making a circuit bent synth= /sampler that had a "freebird" button.=A0 ie somebody yells it, y= ou hit the "freebird button", stun them for a second...

An= d then, fuck it the hell up.=A0 Sample/resample/glitch/sequence and give th= em something new.

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Ricky Graham = <ro= ck.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote:
I love that.. &qu= ot;I don't like what your doing, but it's good."

Let's see what else;

"You'd have to be trippin' on LSD to enjoy this"

"That was the weirdest gig I've ever been too. Can I get my photo = with you?"

And of course you have spent two weeks preparing a set and some jackass sho= uts "play some slayer" or "freebird"...

:o)

Ricky
----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots


On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Paul
Richards<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM, K D Patten<kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:
OK... My Looping friends......tell me some story's.....i just got trash= ed


I played "experimental and totally improvised music" at a
"Singer/songwriter's Night" at a local beer house, =A0using t= enor sax
for livelooping. To my ears everyone else there tried to mimic some
well known country artist I don't know the name of. I thought they
should start throwing ashtrays and beer cans at me as I started to
squeal and scramble on stage but it appeared about half of them
appreciated my gig as "very, very different" while the other half=
thought I had been acting out to a pre recorded CD and they simply
accepted "not understanding this art form". One guy said to me he= did
not like what I was doing but was glad anyway having witnessed "the most strange stuff so far".

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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No virus found in this incoming message.
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--00151748e73616e99604706ebe65-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 01:24:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 019B03BE79; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7A30C4.3060407@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:24:20 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30908051807l1e409abeq3340691359eb5608@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <333287c30908051807l1e409abeq3340691359eb5608@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:24:25 +0000 (UTC) That's a brilliant idea..!..I think I'm going to put the first minute on a microcassette and then Dictaphone it into oblivion when the need arises. rubbing hands together, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I was having a conversation the other day about making a circuit bent > synth/sampler that had a "freebird" button. ie somebody yells it, you > hit the "freebird button", stun them for a second... > > And then, fuck it the hell up. Sample/resample/glitch/sequence and > give them something new. > > -nn > happyhumans.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 01:39:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E8B13BE79; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 459 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:39:21 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xk8NDZXt8mW6f6JqypfGOu1YmwKvgDZGhdLnQexX/Uc=; b=gYnZ98kew8VHUnfSBEyN0/uVdB39UUuCc24L3dCwhZSQ5B6qYPEqsh91MWAsyBUx0V h1+SweK/KCKAbkDg3BSGsLnx01eWClq1JXTJjv5p3A/nBxug8bjaq4tgccqECq3lgJCu hmrzVLc+NT5GxrAk8y5cCbGwdPHC5X6GEhs3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=CpSkiQgGWUgmT9llLxuQs5y0Zty6YbRntt4T1DoGmGPJq3vuDF3ITJFsej/MTK9S3K sVRQdg4o5I8Ih4EshopK5+llEB75cyB4XE/klcE5nvXQpI+ICTWqaQgQhbsK+gdhgx5a eGNi7QLCZkMCHYp+OmQW0XnBLQxpcqqzWSGcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:31:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: regarding open letters From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:39:22 +0000 (UTC) I've been hoping this point would be picked up on sometime during this discussion, but here it goes.... If you have a performance/partnership/cd release/arrangement with another person, and you're not happy with how the other individual handled it, the easiest thing to do is to learn that some people are like that, decide not to work with that person again, and to be more cognizant when entering similar arrangements in the future. That's it. What really is the "best case scenario" result of bashing each other in a public forum? I've been burned a number of times in performances, cd releases, and other musical dealings. In the world of music, many of us are misfits in some way or another, and part of navigating a musician's life seems to be learning how to work with or without those personalities. In many cases I still consider individuals who 'burned' me to be friends, and I continue to benefit from that friendship in other ways. I just don't get in situations where they'll be able to do it to me again. If I find I really can't stand the individual, then I don't interact with them and (privately) warn others of my experiences. Personally, I don't agree with everything Rick does, but I'm very happy he's out there working tirelessly to promote other people's music. That's a quality I don't find in many folks, and something we need to see more of. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From mrsmarywilfred@mail.kz Thu Aug 6 02:08:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3613 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:08:49 UTC Received: from mail.kz (frontend02n.mail.kz [92.46.53.17]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CE33BE6F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 02:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [41.222.192.89] (account mrsmarywilfred@mail.kz) by backend01n.mail.kz (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.13) with HTTP id 771399; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:54:45 +0600 From: "Mary Wikfred" Subject: BANK DRAFT FOR YOUR PAST EFFORT. 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Contact the Engikon Courier Company Services via:oko_engikoncourier@rocketmail.com Yours Faithfully, Mrs.Mary Wilfred From alvaro01@cable.net.co Thu Aug 6 02:26:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 789 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:26:53 UTC Received: from ironport3.cable.net.co (ironport3.cable.net.co [200.118.0.14]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014213BE6F; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 02:26:53 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,331,1246856400"; d="rtf'212?scan'212,208,217,212";a="259328909" Received: from artemis.cable.net.co ([200.118.2.59]) by ironport3.cable.net.co with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2009 21:13:29 -0500 Received: from User ([61.178.74.39]) by artemis.cable.net.co (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.06 (built Oct 6 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KNX000AUNGDNE20@artemis.cable.net.co>; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:13:29 -0500 (COT) Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:13:10 -0700 From: SIR COLLINS BROWN Subject: Serial Numbers: McST/776/ML10101 To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Reply-to: sircollinsbrownmicrosecuritydept@windowslive.com Message-id: <0KNX000B3NGMNE20@artemis.cable.net.co> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_TfH7zm+JDVfNfOUWxng6ew)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_TfH7zm+JDVfNfOUWxng6ew) Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT
Microsoft Promotion Award Team
Dr.Helen Gibson
Stamford New Road,
Altrincham Cheshire
WA14 1EP
London.
United Kingdom.
 
 
OFFICIAL WINNING NOTIFICATION.
 
 
It is obvious that this notification will come to you as a surprise but please find time to read it carefully as we congratulate you over your success in the following official publication of results of the E-mail electronic online Sweepstakes organized by Microsoft, in conjunction with the foundation for the promotion of software products, (F.P.S.) held this JULY 2009, in London UK. Where in your email address emerged as one of the online Winning emails in the 2nd category and therefore attracted a cash award of £450,000.00.
 
They are arranged in this format below:
 
CATEGORY NO.OF WINNERS WINNING PRIZES
 
1st.   £ 850,000.00 pounds each
2nd. £ 450,000.00 pounds each
3rd.  £ 350,000.00 pounds each
4th.  £ 250,000.00 pounds each
 
We write to officially notify you of this award and to advise you to contact the processing office immediately upon receipt of this message for more information concerning the verification, processing and eventual payment of the above prize to you. It is important to note that your award information was released with
the following particulars attached to it.
 
(1) Award numbers: MLAT#2009
(2) Email ticket numbers: 1587-5896-4598-87,
(3) Batch numbers: 450THL#2009
(4) The file reference numbers: MLY-Y/250-450890
{5} Serial Numbers: McST/776/ML10101
 
For verification purpose be sure to include:
 
VERIFICATION AND FUNDS RELEASE FORM.
 
(1) Your Full Names:
(2) Your Contact Address:
(3) Your Nationality/Country:
(4) Your Telephone number:
(5) Sex:
(6) Age. :
(7) Occupation:
 
 
To file for your claim, Please contact your Validating Officer for VALIDATION of your winning within Twenty-nine working days of this winning notification. Winnings that are not validated within Twenty-nine working days of winning notification are termed void and invalid. You are required to mention the above particulars of your award in every correspondence to enable the Agent validate your winning.
 
 
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FOREIGN TRANSFER MANAGER
SIR COLLINS BROWN
MICROSOFT SECURITY DEPARTMENT (UK).
M.S.PRO. ZONAL COORDINATOR
MOBILE: +447024011769
 
Email: sircollinsbrownmicrosecuritydept@windowslive.com
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The Microsoft Internet E-mail lottery Awards is sponsored by our CEO/Chairman, Bill Gates and a consortium of software promotion companies. The Intel Group, Toshiba, Dell Computers and other International Companies. The Microsoft internet E-mail draw is held periodically and is organized to encourage the use of the Internet and promote computer literacy worldwide. The Microsoft Window lottery has discovered a huge number of double claims due to winners informing close friends relatives and third parties about their winning and also sharing their pin numbers.
 
As a result of this, these friends try to claim the lottery on behalf of the real winners. The Microsoft lottery has reached a decision from headquarters that any double claim discovered by the Lottery Board will result to the Canceling of that particular winning, making a loss for both the double claimer and the real winner, as it is taken that the real winner was the informer to the double claimer about the lottery. So you are hereby strongly advised once more to keep your winnings strictly confidential until you claim your prize.
 
Once again on behalf of all our staff,
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Sincerely,
MICROSOFT DIRECTORATE UNIT
M.S.PRO. ZONAL COORDINATOR.
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03:03:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24F053BE79; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:03:22 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=khojRgx/TMDw425tlga9svS1Ulw1VTzWynNFlzg7aNPsehBo+W+svQ6018rQ06+zi7fyfPLDaAzXnncKP27YrH+kXT6KA6Sr4VZ6x5jLiGCEuvLzeRrcJR6OKOq2i4u+; Message-ID: <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:56:41 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Brian Good : > > Per Boysen wrote: > >> Very interesting historical two cents. Wonder what those early Baroque >> era people would think about the multi glissandi THX jingle! :-) > > They'd be hiding under the theater seats, I imagine. :-) > Actually, in the pre-Renaissance era, they chanted in parallel fifths =20 in a style known as "organum". (A popular example are the monks in =20 Monty Python -- they are chanting in organum -- stopping only to beat =20 their own heads with boards. I don't think the boards were authentic =20 -- however the organum is.) The reason that parallel fifths and octaves are avoided in =20 contrapuntal music is that this motion destroys the independence of =20 the voices. So, to baroque ears, parallel fifths would likely have sounded "old =20 fashioned". And, yes -- in choral singing (other than organum) a =20 careless (or random) parallel octave or fifth causes tuning problems =20 for the singers. (usually, when a choir runs across a "problem =20 passage" the culprit is usually a parallel fifth, parallel octave, or =20 some kind of poor voice-leading.) For any Moondog fans -- he was really into classical counterpoint and =20 on my Moondog CD liner notes Moondog is quoted as saying that =20 voice-leading was very important to him. The power chord is a perfect example of parallel motion -- it is =20 parallel motion that blends into a mass sound. That is, you don't =20 hear independent notes so much as one big, powerful sound. Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive their =20 sound from parallel fifths. Interestingly, in the twentieth century, parallelism returned as a =20 style. What goes around, comes around. Hindemith, as I recall, wished to avoid parallel octaves and fifths =20 because it was "old fashioned" and has an ancient sound. Forgive me for rambling on -- I really enjoy counterpoint and, in =20 fact, the countrapuntal possibilities of live-looping inspires me when =20 I work with loops. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 03:13:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1205A3BE7E; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3E9CD473-500D-4342-8EBC-3FA4F30B199A@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:13:33 -0700 References: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Rick and Bill, Very fine . . . thanks for sharing. It's a rare treat to hear Bill play anytime outside of my annual trips to Y2K. To have you in the bargain too is like double prizes. Mucho thanko Delta Boys. Ted On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi all, > If anyone is interested, I just put up a youtube video page for > Bill's project, New Delta. > > *_www.youtube.com/billwalkersnewdelta_* > > I posted four tracks (the entire performance) of our first show > opening for the wonderful Argentine looper, Juana Molina > at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz. > > The group , featuring all of Bill's compositions, revolves around his > psychedelic slide guitar and lap steel, weissenborn, LP-1 live > looping improvisations > using inspiration from musics of the Mississippi, Nile, Ganges and > Yangtze Delta regions. > I accompany him, playing different exotic percussion instruments > (giant calabash, liquid > glass ghatam, kanjira and korg wave drum). > > It was a really fun gig and the video came out decently so I hope > you all > enjoy them. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 03:15:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13DB53BE80; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=t7m5dguBFgyAxqLLB3cQMKDGGFURCaUsp7BLkychJZ7SsL+hODyh3Ue82vSUBKSS; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <27154942.1249528513268.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:15:13 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48dcec28c72cd4a9c27f6ede01dc129c758093ec8fa1ef8ec6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.52 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:15:13 +0000 (UTC) well put!! i'm savin' this to my 'loopere' folder -----Original Message----- >From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com >Sent: Aug 5, 2009 10:56 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots > >Quoting Brian Good : >> >> Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> Very interesting historical two cents. Wonder what those early Baroque >>> era people would think about the multi glissandi THX jingle! :-) >> >> They'd be hiding under the theater seats, I imagine. :-) >> >Actually, in the pre-Renaissance era, they chanted in parallel fifths >in a style known as "organum". (A popular example are the monks in >Monty Python -- they are chanting in organum -- stopping only to beat >their own heads with boards. I don't think the boards were authentic >-- however the organum is.) > >The reason that parallel fifths and octaves are avoided in >contrapuntal music is that this motion destroys the independence of >the voices. > >So, to baroque ears, parallel fifths would likely have sounded "old >fashioned". And, yes -- in choral singing (other than organum) a >careless (or random) parallel octave or fifth causes tuning problems >for the singers. (usually, when a choir runs across a "problem >passage" the culprit is usually a parallel fifth, parallel octave, or >some kind of poor voice-leading.) > >For any Moondog fans -- he was really into classical counterpoint and >on my Moondog CD liner notes Moondog is quoted as saying that >voice-leading was very important to him. > >The power chord is a perfect example of parallel motion -- it is >parallel motion that blends into a mass sound. That is, you don't >hear independent notes so much as one big, powerful sound. > >Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive their >sound from parallel fifths. > >Interestingly, in the twentieth century, parallelism returned as a >style. What goes around, comes around. > >Hindemith, as I recall, wished to avoid parallel octaves and fifths >because it was "old fashioned" and has an ancient sound. > >Forgive me for rambling on -- I really enjoy counterpoint and, in >fact, the countrapuntal possibilities of live-looping inspires me when >I work with loops. > >-- Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 04:57:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 408283BE7F; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 04:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=YVN+ShaNzgrP2Hwx776edzbZ/NVHHTwnA+r3mR/toJ0=; b=Z4+Hdwplcze3EVDNllxXdrteO1lc74jKitE6Lb/4NDUJ8MPaSSLy+BvNwbDWRWd3I1 U7JQ2w5yTwA6JmpbB34+Siq0VQ2xQAld3RaDm7fndYNffq4+DLAKjr52YTUly4DOIRGF UqNhqQ4GxIGo4pAcFoB5ePTlxsfkxXTrBpeWU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=M7zJGd+0B4v/gU3nWksf5GiTDqmO7JUUVPavO4Hnm6Qo1hVPUFAlfbSi2+hqJiH4+7 1pPgeiJVmvxgUm8If6OgD3cZtoLD/yorZBKuxx9Re2Y/6SKIzJgVa9zPOhgSbX4P+seU x1gyA10YNtnbr5SdDamvEdv4MXc/y7AXHKSRU= Message-Id: <583E7A79-7346-4FFF-AA01-C7635A3E11F8@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:57:24 -0300 References: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <433ThB.A.cHC.5KmeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 04:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Wow... just beautiful. It's so great to see you guys doing some really =20= interesting music!! Amazing! That made my day! Keep the muses coming 'round here.. (hope that makes sense!) Very best from Argentina, Ariel. El 05/08/2009, a las 16:38, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > Hi all, > If anyone is interested, I just put up a youtube video page for > Bill's project, New Delta. > > *_www.youtube.com/billwalkersnewdelta_* > > I posted four tracks (the entire performance) of our first show > opening for the wonderful Argentine looper, Juana Molina > at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz. > > The group , featuring all of Bill's compositions, revolves around his > psychedelic slide guitar and lap steel, weissenborn, LP-1 live =20 > looping improvisations > using inspiration from musics of the Mississippi, Nile, Ganges and =20 > Yangtze Delta regions. > I accompany him, playing different exotic percussion instruments =20 > (giant calabash, liquid > glass ghatam, kanjira and korg wave drum). > > It was a really fun gig and the video came out decently so I hope =20 > you all > enjoy them. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 05:20:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 722633BE78; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 474 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 05:20:57 UTC X-Authenticated-Name: TuleRiver Message-ID: <4A7A6652.1080308@asyouthink.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:12:50 -0700 From: CM User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Dude...  that ain't ramblin' man... that's brilliance. : )

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kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:
Quoting Brian Good <bsgood@gmail.com>:

Per Boysen wrote:

Very interesting historical two cents. Wonder what those early Baroque
era people would think about the multi glissandi THX jingle! :-)

They'd be hiding under the theater seats, I imagine. :-)

Actually, in the pre-Renaissance era, they chanted in parallel fifths in a style known as "organum".  (A popular example are the monks in Monty Python -- they are chanting in organum -- stopping only to beat their own heads with boards. I don't think the boards were authentic -- however the organum is.)

The reason that parallel fifths and octaves are avoided in contrapuntal music is that this motion destroys the independence of the voices.

So, to baroque ears, parallel fifths would likely have sounded "old fashioned".  And, yes -- in choral singing (other than organum) a careless (or random) parallel octave or fifth causes tuning problems for the singers. (usually, when a choir runs across a "problem passage" the culprit is usually a parallel fifth, parallel octave, or some kind of poor voice-leading.)

For any  Moondog fans -- he was really into classical counterpoint and on my Moondog CD liner notes Moondog is quoted as saying that voice-leading was very important to him.

The power chord is a perfect example of parallel motion -- it is parallel motion that blends into a mass sound.  That is, you don't hear independent notes so much as one big, powerful sound.

Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive their sound from parallel fifths.

Interestingly, in the twentieth century, parallelism returned as a style.  What goes around, comes around.

Hindemith, as I recall, wished to avoid parallel octaves and fifths because it was "old fashioned" and has an ancient sound.

Forgive me for rambling on -- I really enjoy counterpoint and, in fact, the countrapuntal possibilities of live-looping inspires me when I work with loops.

-- Kevin



From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 05:33:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D4533BE7E; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=ZateFDH8zdzs6xqhh8taUlVHYgtRl3oUIFK1BtEgb8M=; b=mo2qBlSUz5qd0ADglkB23NDKEyI+Wc2smAXjLehHkGP7wV9z4EVvUWYfPpT0FVi5bp SxEUrxGlxY/3hUYjnvFS9aOLFSxCQ+JZj1RpxVLqMENGbEV31/ChQ76FQ/I3og7BF37T mBf18KD2QRwUVlfKI86bCkqBwiwJ48xb+Jlz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=OQDti2gdKk8Sb2vkEVpgfcF43ZHlcWdgedcWAgztwD4aJmQyxEwfQjKSymG28EQ/Fe MyCoEY56kU/5aPhcOkdKkhY+5c5ZNgz6ZyPl3wGYs9BlZcru6fEwC3IU6hXS2m7tbuEb bB/N8wGhTD3c6XIbjNXk4TX2M/5xg6TQHXWDc= From: "Tony K" To: References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: parallels (was RE: anti-looper bigots) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:32:59 -0400 Message-ID: <000001ca1657$5c842390$158c6ab0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoWQndhGxtBUCjSSGa6djqSKaIe+QAFDRpQ Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:33:03 +0000 (UTC) > Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive their = =20 >sound from parallel fifths. I know I'm being picky here... but. Smoke on the Water is parallel = 4ths. I saw an interview with Ritchie where he discussed how often that = riff is played wrong (in 5ths) and that 4ths give it an 'evil' sound. I remember those rules from music theory classes. My teacher's attitude = was that it's a flexible rule (because of course someone found some = parallels in a Bach piece,) and one that musicians uses when composing = to create that style of music. =20 I now return you to this fascinating discussion already in progress. Tony -----Original Message----- From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com = [mailto:kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:57 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Quoting Brian Good : > > Per Boysen wrote: > >> Very interesting historical two cents. Wonder what those early = Baroque >> era people would think about the multi glissandi THX jingle! :-) > > They'd be hiding under the theater seats, I imagine. :-) > Actually, in the pre-Renaissance era, they chanted in parallel fifths =20 in a style known as "organum". (A popular example are the monks in =20 Monty Python -- they are chanting in organum -- stopping only to beat =20 their own heads with boards. I don't think the boards were authentic =20 -- however the organum is.) The reason that parallel fifths and octaves are avoided in =20 contrapuntal music is that this motion destroys the independence of =20 the voices. So, to baroque ears, parallel fifths would likely have sounded "old =20 fashioned". And, yes -- in choral singing (other than organum) a =20 careless (or random) parallel octave or fifth causes tuning problems =20 for the singers. (usually, when a choir runs across a "problem =20 passage" the culprit is usually a parallel fifth, parallel octave, or =20 some kind of poor voice-leading.) For any Moondog fans -- he was really into classical counterpoint and =20 on my Moondog CD liner notes Moondog is quoted as saying that =20 voice-leading was very important to him. The power chord is a perfect example of parallel motion -- it is =20 parallel motion that blends into a mass sound. That is, you don't =20 hear independent notes so much as one big, powerful sound. Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive their =20 sound from parallel fifths. Interestingly, in the twentieth century, parallelism returned as a =20 style. What goes around, comes around. Hindemith, as I recall, wished to avoid parallel octaves and fifths =20 because it was "old fashioned" and has an ancient sound. Forgive me for rambling on -- I really enjoy counterpoint and, in =20 fact, the countrapuntal possibilities of live-looping inspires me when =20 I work with loops. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 05:44:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C23E3BE78; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <000001ca1657$5c842390$158c6ab0$@com> References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <000001ca1657$5c842390$158c6ab0$@com> Message-id: From: Toby Graves Subject: Re: parallels (was RE: anti-looper bigots) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:44:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:44:26 +0000 (UTC) You can call them parallel fourths but the essence of that interval is destroyed by the distortion and the fact that the tonal center is G. I'd say it would be more accurate to call them inverted parallel 5ths. t On Aug 5, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Tony K wrote: >> Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive >> their >> sound from parallel fifths. > > I know I'm being picky here... but. Smoke on the Water is parallel > 4ths. I saw an interview with Ritchie where he discussed how often > that riff is played wrong (in 5ths) and that 4ths give it an 'evil' > sound. > > I remember those rules from music theory classes. My teacher's > attitude was that it's a flexible rule (because of course someone > found some parallels in a Bach piece,) and one that musicians uses > when composing to create that style of music. > > I now return you to this fascinating discussion already in progress. > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > [mailto:kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:57 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots > > Quoting Brian Good : >> >> Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> Very interesting historical two cents. Wonder what those early >>> Baroque >>> era people would think about the multi glissandi THX jingle! :-) >> >> They'd be hiding under the theater seats, I imagine. :-) >> > Actually, in the pre-Renaissance era, they chanted in parallel fifths > in a style known as "organum". (A popular example are the monks in > Monty Python -- they are chanting in organum -- stopping only to beat > their own heads with boards. I don't think the boards were authentic > -- however the organum is.) > > The reason that parallel fifths and octaves are avoided in > contrapuntal music is that this motion destroys the independence of > the voices. > > So, to baroque ears, parallel fifths would likely have sounded "old > fashioned". And, yes -- in choral singing (other than organum) a > careless (or random) parallel octave or fifth causes tuning problems > for the singers. (usually, when a choir runs across a "problem > passage" the culprit is usually a parallel fifth, parallel octave, or > some kind of poor voice-leading.) > > For any Moondog fans -- he was really into classical counterpoint and > on my Moondog CD liner notes Moondog is quoted as saying that > voice-leading was very important to him. > > The power chord is a perfect example of parallel motion -- it is > parallel motion that blends into a mass sound. That is, you don't > hear independent notes so much as one big, powerful sound. > > Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive their > sound from parallel fifths. > > Interestingly, in the twentieth century, parallelism returned as a > style. What goes around, comes around. > > Hindemith, as I recall, wished to avoid parallel octaves and fifths > because it was "old fashioned" and has an ancient sound. > > Forgive me for rambling on -- I really enjoy counterpoint and, in > fact, the countrapuntal possibilities of live-looping inspires me when > I work with loops. > > -- Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 08:13:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34B3D3BE7F; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8QRBZqREi9byVnumPBTrx+1rR21sFJb+MNkAgMlj1Wg=; b=WpBz3D/fOBj6f48WcJg+b3WQwglGHNfN046wA+seNQOz3cV4mHRd9QPmKbNroQslSr b3NOjWG6dWEsnz4v3ttUs+D3E48ojeHx5IsbDCxNtSQT00f1YOxsxjib/cnDFUkuC1hv ZBmcndH+nnkaIazWCMPpRTYmRPORxriZit5S8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VrMuKyB8DUbMA09i5aeisa1MDiqdtIKnzNZ4BT1CfejO9ZtL8p6bQTfgL4TtoIEIrx +wsicd/z5IM5c+keK5SdBp6VB7d1aoH2wGxnTSgGTemZ883I1T2kpW/rlFDnhRrFIRzf RVM10G2riWYHnrArogZTYg/2ZjKaeny1lLA8M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A78B4A0.3070904@dehnhard.com> References: <7334ca1b0908031535k7384642ew3b6fecff44226ab8@mail.gmail.com> <001701ca14ad$8b440930$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <000a01ca14b2$15684690$b7802245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A780460.2020903@dehnhard.com> <3f8d9ee60908040746l191212cas7471e7ae2c00f66c@mail.gmail.com> <4A78B4A0.3070904@dehnhard.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:13:17 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908060113o5a201abg36661a445c5c138d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: cases From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:13:20 +0000 (UTC) On 8/5/09, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > an m-audio bag for soundcard/laptop (and headphones plus small stuff). > or a simple backpack. > > Milo schrieb: >> So what do you use to carry your looping equipment? >> >> On 8/4/09, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: >> >>> if you ever need a custom made case for wind instruments or anything >>> else, check out howard wiseman's cases. >>> this man is a genius. he has a tetris kind of mind. >>> i just had my five flutes (from piccolo to contrabassflute) including >>> stand fitted into a ridiulously small case. >>> i can carry it easily on my shoulder, so finally i could give my old >>> tank of a flightcase a good kick into the corner >>> of my practice room (it's for sale, by the way - and cheap...). >>> >>> here's the link: http://www.wisemancases.com/ >>> >>> tilmann >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 08:14:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A05E13BE7E; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RiImj6o6pGBlmXkZGHBYHSNVVlOlgRMtJJgeiNUUCcw=; b=w1HsnJw7af8tH1o+2sbDDT6dRRVnszZw0mAvsoz6TrFF6VBxT8pDBpHjPaFncvbzPq hvZX5mkZhBpppKN03jcHyDcAZoKE+HTaARXGTnYjja7Lgf68/0bMr+KB7dXZbkEnK2Vg 63d+/DlrHaFPO5ctjYGqKa8oIk8pB73SUH2nA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t52gmX6biphHtJmFYfqutTZHYOnzIewjbMI61bvbYa5r5roh1zWAStZ0PQcYprz2Z1 ZqWLKdhFTilu4tcyfiidx8BlJbbjnFNY3+VYpDF00LxlfWf612qmxYtwtNdgZSLsxTBl oOHvuoOU4ZTTFqOTlUZlO1ngBXtBWLBbpJIsg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:14:35 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908060114t581ca89fo2561fae310f74f61@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:14:37 +0000 (UTC) How much do BMI, ASCAP and SESAC charge you for this music blog? On 8/5/09, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I'm behind, but here is FreeWave Show #3 and playlist. The blog page has the > link to play the selections. > > http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ > > Enjoy. > > Kris Hartung > info@krispenhartung.com > www.krispenhartung.com > > Play List > > Artist(s): Alexander Von Schlippenbach > Song: The Living Music > Album: The Living Music (1969) > More info: http://www.jazzloft.com/p-36360-the-living-music.aspx > > Artist(s): Iannis Xenakis > Song: Zbigniew Karkowski: Doing By Not Doing > Album: Persepolis Remixes Edition 1 (2002) > More info: http://www.amazon.com/Doing-By-Not/dp/B000TE1XHQ > > Artist(s): Jeff Kaiser & Andrew Pask > Song: Blue Air Habit > Album: The Choir Boys > More info: http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD024.html > > Artist(s): Vladimir Ussachevsky > Song: Sonic Contours, Piece for Tape Recorder, Computer Piece No. 1, Two > Sketches for a Computer Piece (Part I), and Two Sketches for a Computer > Piece (Part II) > Album: Pioneers Of Electronic Music > More info: > http://www.amazon.com/Pioneers-Electronic-Vladimir-Ussachevsky-Davidovsky/dp/B000EU1H44 > > Artist(s): Sun Ra > Song: Space Is The Place > Album: Space Is The Place (1972) > More info: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:39ftxqtgld0e > > Artist(s): Roscoe Mitchell and Thomas Buckner > Song: VFPSA > Album: 8 O'Clock: Two Improvisations (2001) > More info: http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=274 > > Artist(s): Axel Dorner And Fred Lonberg-Holm > Song: 5 > Album: Object 1 (2003) > More info: > http://www.emusic.com/artist/Axel-Dorner-And-Fred-Lonberg-Holm-MP3-Download/11608691.html > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 08:40:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5CAD3BE82; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249548053; bh=o6gld18cdw2+RoivV5iNTvQe9HoTpCShevDAON9lehQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XaI2kKIOMVbBlhTHk+CMg9NC54wWFYwG5Tq6XgV2jY9dP8quaNR/P45zTxcOtVBvdRtoeQrGLb5UJpUOGIng3+X/WQNMZHl5C56CtpMQnPmv2Kgpsag+k9OxM7HMmoAkUFZdaqAcYR15zoxJGxZHVEk7RBP0O0hlkRVqmh3L/eA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eUihahLZ0ZI7jfO79xLQehIqb5Az7XxuNwiXXkbKnMhehS5b3aQMLbDlQ6i4TWkXKh28zeGj0NlxA7tsFQFR73AaIsI44l53pU7juuFzjnw485f88IxYZ5xyGWGgwhAAAC8HXY5Hw1XXmRzGTKmkx1QFP0iCu+kBsHgM8hjuXmQ=; Message-ID: <311267.25531.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:40:52 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: the use of fifths forths,the heaviness in music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:40:54 +0000 (UTC) very intersting thread guys,talking about fifths fourths power chords octav= es and smoke on the water riffs etc. i always found it facinating and intri= guing where this "heaviness" comes from and why we feel it that way...the o= ld blues and a lot of the early flamenco were also already using them exten= sively.Also that forbidden flatted fifth somehow makes it more "heavy and e= vil"...=0ABlues and flamenco to me is almost like the roots of that "heavy"= ...they both have that flated or sharp interval creating tension...both use= power chords and a lot of octaves as well,it seems to me the heaviness i f= eel from the early blues comes not only from the use of that "blue note" ad= ded in the minor pentatonic but from the use of those spread octave riffs w= hich incidently is very african as well.Lots of rock riffs is just playing = those scales in unison with the bass which are also in octaves;maybe here y= ou can sort of see what i mean, Hendrix is using the 12 string which has th= e octaves and is constantly pulling the lower e string letting it resolve t= o E and hammering its octave of it on the d string,this sounds to me heavy = even without the need of distortion!=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D= wCQBbgb_Lvo&feature=3Drelated=0A=0Aor here african style=0Ahttp://www.youtu= be.com/watch?v=3D_rXgi2QYC74=0A=0Ain flamenco seguiriyas is a good example,= constantly hammering on that sharp half step note on the octave from the ro= ot and following with the power chord=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DVKXKWrSUZ3o&feature=3Drelated=0A=0Aor in the context of music=0Ahttp://w= ww.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiiKrcHpDt3s=0A=0AAnd in rock=0Ahttp://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DfkuOAY-S6OY=0A=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/lui= sangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Rainer Straschill schrieb= am Mi, 5.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Rainer Straschill = =0A> Betreff: Re: anti-looper bigots=0A> An: loopers-delight@loopers-deligh= t.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 5. August 2009, 15:08=0A> > when I was a freshma= n music=0A> major studying first year theory according to Paul=0A> Hindemit= h, we were instructed to avoid parallel fifths in=0A> all of our assignment= s=0A> =0A> The rule to never use parallel fifths (and octaves and=0A> prime= s) is much=0A> older than Hindemith and comes from the early Baroque era.= =0A> =0A> Now for us power chord generation people, this rule is=0A> often = hard to=0A> understand, and so it makes sense to see where it=0A> originall= y came=0A> from:=0A> Back in the early Baroque era, the human voice was an= =0A> important=0A> instrument, not only as a lead instrument, but also in= =0A> multi-voice=0A> harmonies (as in choral harmonies). Now the predominan= t=0A> singing style=0A> at that time for solo singers was to sing jumps por= tamento,=0A> i.e. for a=0A> fifth jump from D to A not sing the D, then sin= g the A, but=0A> to sing a=0A> quick glissando from D to A.=0A> =0A> Now ob= viously, if several singers were doing that in a=0A> homphonic=0A> passage,= then they all would do that glissando with a=0A> slightly=0A> different ti= ming - which would mean they wouldn't be in=0A> exact=0A> intervals during = the glissando.=0A> Now this sounds especially ugly if you are moving in=0A>= parallel in very=0A> pure intervals - prime, octave and fifth - so this wa= s to=0A> be avoided.=0A> =0A> Just my historical two cents.=0A> =0A> =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0Rainer=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 08:48:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 441ED3BE8A; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 238854698/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.178.96/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.178.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmkBAGM1ekpPTrJg/2dsb2JhbAAI1FSEGAWKHg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,332,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="238854698" Message-ID: <4A7A9C90.8080506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:04:16 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots / Miles & Teo OT References: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A796F60.2050603@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3hNM-.A.K6B.ijpeKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: >> earlier in this thread I wrote: >> "In a way, by introducing tape loops on 'In a Silent Way' (neglected as >> the predecessor and I feel, the superior record to the more famous >> "Bitches Brew") he was doing the same thing to the percussionists. >> By introducing a static loop that held down the groove, in essence, the >> percussionists and drummers were free to explore more. " > To this, Andy Butler replied: > > "Rev's link does not confirm the methodology for recording > that this suggests." > :-) well it's not my fault it doesn't Isn't the tape loop stuff on Bitches Brew? > > ******* > Also, you took me to task (by saying I"d had my 2nd espresso of the day) > for talking about the expansion of timbres in percussion that came from > that time period. yes, but honest Rick I meant it in a good way. Just meant that I enjoyed reading you. > > I've studied percussion and the introduction of new percussion aye cap'n ...and if there's any available copies of the rhythm book you wrote I'd be very interested to buy one. > I also think that "In a Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew" though not > first in this movement, were, nonetheless > vastly more influential on the subsequent history of the movement than > the first records. I'm not sure about that reasoning. Without the innovators, the popularizers have nothing to popularize. > > Show me a single popular recording that sounded like "In a Silent Way" > that precedes it. Can't do that, Zappa certainly had something similar going but I'm clueless on the whole "record sales" thing. I couldn't name a popular recording that came *after* and sounded like that. ...something by Soft Machine perhaps. Wasn't Bitches Brew the big seller in any case? Also, I'd wonder if having "biggest selling jazz album" is somewhat like having the "most popular non-porn website". > I say popular! There may have been more obscure predecessors but > millions of people heard these records > and certainly tens of thousands of musicians. here's my original comment:- '...but I don't understand all these "Miles started...." themes. Why not just credit Miles for a great contribution? ' > > Miles didn't invent anything really. Modalism existed before him, > Trance music existed, Fusion Existed , blah, blah, blah. > > Somebody once said that artists are the antennae of a culture. They > pick up change coming long before the rest of the population > does and they broadcast it. > > Miles was certainly an antennae and he most certainly was a popularizer. > He had an enormous influence on modern music and the sound of modern > jazz which is his great contribution, yes? Anyway, found more info on the sessions http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/in-a-silent-way/# ....exploiting the ability of tape to capture unique chance events that could be structured after the event by editing. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 10:43:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A0F33BE7C; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A7AB3B2.4090404@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:42:58 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:43:22 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) every Thursday morning. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 11:31:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 083B33BE79; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fx6SiPBGQ4fmMEQucS+6Gvpl78lR+VuZHoVFPyyJGY4=; b=ct04aB3TaexzEvpR7WoyEIRdogi+BF+GG9rXDky7nz8EZ9mAtjwf+b1HsIc+I2q+tL Wz3meYLHg0H+j4YnqE96UNDdvyWYgurPSBcAvHGG28bneKDaNW8WmXBYu1E9DGidvdDC OO8+3blKcCTWvb8phmXlowqYajX62zKDcB69U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=paYCX4RiHHsNjGwFoERitUSIskiSpkyTRAXQ+jw+d7+peWOUdaRpDCblbcrpVPmVio jFLg7Eezorxsb5SEWJ0gqIU6leDkGwsymw6jJx7BA3oE+3UsUv9Xej1F0Zr4FIE1lxeu 3JwbxqGlpi3NLGwgnbbGrj8yNH1JR/QKFdnbU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <583E7A79-7346-4FFF-AA01-C7635A3E11F8@gmail.com> References: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> <583E7A79-7346-4FFF-AA01-C7635A3E11F8@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:31:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:31:39 +0000 (UTC) cool.. 2009/8/6, Ariel Rzezak : > Wow... just beautiful. It's so great to see you guys doing some really > interesting music!! > > Amazing! That made my day! > > Keep the muses coming 'round here.. (hope that makes sense!) > > Very best from Argentina, > > Ariel. > > El 05/08/2009, a las 16:38, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > >> Hi all, >> If anyone is interested, I just put up a youtube video page for >> Bill's project, New Delta. >> >> *_www.youtube.com/billwalkersnewdelta_* >> >> I posted four tracks (the entire performance) of our first show >> opening for the wonderful Argentine looper, Juana Molina >> at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz. >> >> The group , featuring all of Bill's compositions, revolves around his >> psychedelic slide guitar and lap steel, weissenborn, LP-1 live >> looping improvisations >> using inspiration from musics of the Mississippi, Nile, Ganges and >> Yangtze Delta regions. >> I accompany him, playing different exotic percussion instruments >> (giant calabash, liquid >> glass ghatam, kanjira and korg wave drum). >> >> It was a really fun gig and the video came out decently so I hope >> you all >> enjoy them. >> >> >> >> > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 11:32:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5553BE7C; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249558341; l=1495; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=0WDpYrTB1u5v6lNWrU8ebIxwdiY=; b=CdscJtxd6dElBvf9eaX3utmDHec36JTRt9oXLqEXSfjQ+JfXcrQwB2+HSUiaHL4GIsZ E8MbN7S83ctVJngIcsZsgrd23lct1EF0YFh3hXfhBTTl5YD/4Azk7O0t2WkEvCnPMnKye CpdfVUf5spmaglIte8gg3TdKTh2AulAbFE0= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <014301ca168a$0d7eeb80$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <66f9cc1e0908050806yaec8a23te973c454b7d04b55@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:30:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Yes, that´s a good idea. The RC-50 also has a fade-in and -out option for the several prhases/loops. The problem is you have to do lots of switch ins and outs. And it does not work this way when just switching from one loop to the other. But Sjaaks suggestion to work with a pre-delay may also be a workable solution. I could set my DD-20 before the RC 50. Fading out manually with an expression pedal, as Buzap says, is another good idea. Thanks guys! Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) >> Christo wrote: >> The only thing which bothers me really is, that the loops >> are straight cut at the end. I mean if you switch to another patch (f.ex. >> from phrase 1 to phrase 2) or in general if the >> phrase will repeat itself, it doesn´t have a natural release. You don't have to do it that way, if the abrupt switch doesn't fit with your music. Use a looper that allows several parallel loops and make the transit from one loop to the other with volume fades. Loop A as fade-out and Loop B as fade-in makes a nice crossfade transition from A to B. This can be done on the LP-1 or a software looper like SooperLooper or Mobius. Besides that, Mobius also offers the EDP style of abrupt loop shifting. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 11:41:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF59B3BE7C; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 241860470/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.178.96/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.178.96 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmkBAO5dekpPTrJg/2dsb2JhbAAI1CeEGAWKHg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,333,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="241860470" Message-ID: <4A7AC510.50202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:57:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots now OT counterpoint rules References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: >> when I was a freshman music major studying first year theory according to Paul Hindemith, we were instructed to avoid parallel fifths in all of our assignments > > The rule to never use parallel fifths (and octaves and primes) is much > older than Hindemith and comes from the early Baroque era. > > Now for us power chord generation people, this rule is often hard to > understand, and so it makes sense to see where it originally came > from: > Back in the early Baroque era, the human voice was an important > instrument, not only as a lead instrument, but also in multi-voice > harmonies (as in choral harmonies). Now the predominant singing style > at that time for solo singers was to sing jumps portamento, i.e. for a > fifth jump from D to A not sing the D, then sing the A, but to sing a > quick glissando from D to A. source? > > Now obviously, if several singers were doing that in a homphonic > passage, then they all would do that glissando with a slightly > different timing - which would mean they wouldn't be in exact > intervals during the glissando. > Now this sounds especially ugly if you are moving in parallel in very > pure intervals - prime, octave and fifth - so this was to be avoided. makes sense, but the "sound goes thin" explanation also seems to work. As does "harder to distinguish the voices". The "must never expand a third to a fifth" rule doesn't get explained by the "glissando" theory. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 13:23:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFD073BE73; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.209.11.87] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <3f8d9ee60908060114t581ca89fo2561fae310f74f61@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:23:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2009 13:23:29.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[16312F90:01CA1699] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Not sure, the radio station handles all of that and manages the agreements. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > How much do BMI, ASCAP and SESAC charge you for this music blog? > > On 8/5/09, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> I'm behind, but here is FreeWave Show #3 and playlist. The blog page has >> the >> link to play the selections. >> >> http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ >> >> Enjoy. >> >> Kris Hartung >> info@krispenhartung.com >> www.krispenhartung.com >> >> Play List >> >> Artist(s): Alexander Von Schlippenbach >> Song: The Living Music >> Album: The Living Music (1969) >> More info: http://www.jazzloft.com/p-36360-the-living-music.aspx >> >> Artist(s): Iannis Xenakis >> Song: Zbigniew Karkowski: Doing By Not Doing >> Album: Persepolis Remixes Edition 1 (2002) >> More info: http://www.amazon.com/Doing-By-Not/dp/B000TE1XHQ >> >> Artist(s): Jeff Kaiser & Andrew Pask >> Song: Blue Air Habit >> Album: The Choir Boys >> More info: http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD024.html >> >> Artist(s): Vladimir Ussachevsky >> Song: Sonic Contours, Piece for Tape Recorder, Computer Piece No. 1, Two >> Sketches for a Computer Piece (Part I), and Two Sketches for a Computer >> Piece (Part II) >> Album: Pioneers Of Electronic Music >> More info: >> http://www.amazon.com/Pioneers-Electronic-Vladimir-Ussachevsky-Davidovsky/dp/B000EU1H44 >> >> Artist(s): Sun Ra >> Song: Space Is The Place >> Album: Space Is The Place (1972) >> More info: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:39ftxqtgld0e >> >> Artist(s): Roscoe Mitchell and Thomas Buckner >> Song: VFPSA >> Album: 8 O'Clock: Two Improvisations (2001) >> More info: http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=274 >> >> Artist(s): Axel Dorner And Fred Lonberg-Holm >> Song: 5 >> Album: Object 1 (2003) >> More info: >> http://www.emusic.com/artist/Axel-Dorner-And-Fred-Lonberg-Holm-MP3-Download/11608691.html >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 13:39:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C3FD3BE73; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qFMX24zua5PJ9OI6PHaZTSILVu0fMmkW2XwgS0MXmQ0=; b=qBC7pqYAlNxwBCQOxy2qX1gYSMHCvQ+RbDJ+XAq3eg/b+JNAI/hjaDWRDmrcclimA+ L6Om77p88TjO0AGiu/h4cKJFCoEOVhnZZZ8QsmnTY4MJ0btIzrFxHQVKD1pdi2+dmtQP Ovh2cbd/M7b2gVKLK+X7ikom0EnJXLC++mgB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q4qZSyHRkwdeHqbCz9YxeR+Ux3oulDPZNVoAqDT5zwL/+zQJ44h7PfxFIru09h2mix uutbxSjCtwnPs4OkbDbjWdotG2wQINRxydbLPsUEwbFmW73znoGSWU4Uyk14NXUTAz73 hYp+D7CB8fZhL/grJvfVP/B+5xl2HhVqiSgqQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:39:48 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 40b5d89fa6abd1e9 Message-ID: <101191640908060639i768af10fwfa5589658b389566@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Distressing trends From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5mKueD.A.xAB.l0teKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:39:49 +0000 (UTC) I'm sorry to say that this list has become distressingly childish lately. There is one simple rule: don't say negative things about other people publicly unless they are asking for criticism or quite disruptive. Be opinionated as you want, disagree all you want, but don't attack or characterize people personally. How hard is that? Skip the mea culpas, skip the explanations, just keep your sht to yourselves, ok? There's so much value here, but it gets very unpleasant sometimes. Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 13:47:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4559E3BE7E; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ARstPytMz2ZTqKoD5DyInTN0/nOeSLWqxXLjjphtmEamf0ThTJyZQMlPkkR8JPrU; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <101191640908060639i768af10fwfa5589658b389566@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640908060639i768af10fwfa5589658b389566@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:47:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Distressing trends Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ac99c4555a84fb990e7ff3e9e791639d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Word.... the ego clashes are just embarrassing. I was going to unsubscribe until I saw this post by Warren.... >I'm sorry to say that this list has become distressingly childish >lately. There is one simple rule: don't say negative things about >other people publicly unless they are asking for criticism or quite >disruptive. Be opinionated as you want, disagree all you want, but >don't attack or characterize people personally. How hard is that? > >Skip the mea culpas, skip the explanations, just keep your sht to >yourselves, ok? There's so much value here, but it gets very >unpleasant sometimes. > >Warren -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 13:53:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 790043BE78; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 365 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:53:31 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3e4be2bd-2dc5-43ec-b5ed-098fdab5c08d_" X-Originating-IP: [99.246.95.3] From: Dave Lauzon To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:47:25 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2009 13:47:26.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[6ED65550:01CA169C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:53:31 +0000 (UTC) --_3e4be2bd-2dc5-43ec-b5ed-098fdab5c08d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable _________________________________________________________________ Attention all humans. 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Free us. = --_3e4be2bd-2dc5-43ec-b5ed-098fdab5c08d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 14:05:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFCAB3BE7C; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1278 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:05:45 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=/6V34FRMn0riIiZpip1w86PJerpV8gM+MhPDvoa6hlk=; b=cy1iPs7PiEQC6UHDSPyrvvKWMtdrbFw9mHxR+6fDKJu6VkbR+5sf1lWE4WwXta9GbB mZCzOjJXZYKoDGGPfbxulCDLHELUf7P3Xvv73Vx+Q83gHlhkBg252FXADwqyAl6TYOt5 qEjC1p6cokXp+IkWcQ8wKZpVWuFGaSmv2wvbw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=KsWcTzT404ploui5h/+sTK1AGuJbevUesJ4FbUfV267pGcKzZr9pKPSFi9d363/riD jeALno4EFlV2kDOEyt4CKs4iYwONu5CK9Mi8kThYUWXCspeae6H8JLSimV8buueZJaPO zO0sxWwjBSm6WhzHAo9NogJ6qkhsI4Dy9T274= Message-Id: <7081532B-9297-464E-9948-7F4C7E1E54C4@gmail.com> From: Admin To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5H11a) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5H11a) Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:38:25 -0400 References: <3f8d9ee60908060114t581ca89fo2561fae310f74f61@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Kris does the show appear in itunes as suscribable or is it not considered a podcsst? Jim Sent from my iPod On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:23 AM, "Krispen Hartung" wrote: > Not sure, the radio station handles all of that and manages the > agreements. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> How much do BMI, ASCAP and SESAC charge you for this music blog? >> >> On 8/5/09, Krispen Hartung wrote: >>> I'm behind, but here is FreeWave Show #3 and playlist. The blog >>> page has the >>> link to play the selections. >>> >>> http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Enjoy. >>> >>> Kris Hartung >>> info@krispenhartung.com >>> www.krispenhartung.com >>> >>> Play List >>> >>> Artist(s): Alexander Von Schlippenbach >>> Song: The Living Music >>> Album: The Living Music (1969) >>> More info: http://www.jazzloft.com/p-36360-the-living-music.aspx >>> >>> Artist(s): Iannis Xenakis >>> Song: Zbigniew Karkowski: Doing By Not Doing >>> Album: Persepolis Remixes Edition 1 (2002) >>> More info: http://www.amazon.com/Doing-By-Not/dp/B000TE1XHQ >>> >>> Artist(s): Jeff Kaiser & Andrew Pask >>> Song: Blue Air Habit >>> Album: The Choir Boys >>> More info: http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD024.html >>> >>> Artist(s): Vladimir Ussachevsky >>> Song: Sonic Contours, Piece for Tape Recorder, Computer Piece No. >>> 1, Two >>> Sketches for a Computer Piece (Part I), and Two Sketches for a >>> Computer >>> Piece (Part II) >>> Album: Pioneers Of Electronic Music >>> More info: >>> http://www.amazon.com/Pioneers-Electronic-Vladimir-Ussachevsky-Davidovsky/dp/B000EU1H44 >>> >>> Artist(s): Sun Ra >>> Song: Space Is The Place >>> Album: Space Is The Place (1972) >>> More info: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:39ftxqtgld0e >>> >>> Artist(s): Roscoe Mitchell and Thomas Buckner >>> Song: VFPSA >>> Album: 8 O'Clock: Two Improvisations (2001) >>> More info: http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=274 >>> >>> Artist(s): Axel Dorner And Fred Lonberg-Holm >>> Song: 5 >>> Album: Object 1 (2003) >>> More info: >>> http://www.emusic.com/artist/Axel-Dorner-And-Fred-Lonberg-Holm-MP3-Download/11608691.html >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 14:07:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E5373BE84; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=K92gK/rnW5YpmohWrYwROLR8b6VPHAvOVpHLAQrOBCk=; b=kKglMpilzEC1PPxDIpCmlBO2xICTnMx+ABxH/YlLGq23urVWqVbSO9WWEUAe8LnxV1 ROlZW+UPSEaLHpyWDXqeeL15rL58tbGQhpVfa6G6e+HUeKqgYSkTcHcBP2hjCX7muDH2 kXMunDuF02rgsuZ1xDCjXqgpLHZfk3+ILsG80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s14FHpCB8YOSkb4Pvm9jWiZxal4f2kLnpwjbw+/YWRU1g89waY7vh7YQfQTo11px6X f8XqErf6G1NsmS4ABZ7eT9V6MSAS2QWkaGApSNqjX53uIeEUOYaBSkm7nnsSzEvViUan fqNKrNvldfPhgqJXy6OwU7Yvjc1P7WtseUyVU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3f8d9ee60908060114t581ca89fo2561fae310f74f61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:07:08 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908060707h4d8121cdhbc7c39a9450b29eb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3wMwVB.A.lEC.POueKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Can you ask them? A friend is thinking of setting up a similar one and it would be nice to know how much it costs. Thanks! On 8/6/09, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Not sure, the radio station handles all of that and manages the agreements. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> How much do BMI, ASCAP and SESAC charge you for this music blog? >> >> On 8/5/09, Krispen Hartung wrote: >>> I'm behind, but here is FreeWave Show #3 and playlist. The blog page has >>> the >>> link to play the selections. >>> >>> http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Enjoy. >>> >>> Kris Hartung >>> info@krispenhartung.com >>> www.krispenhartung.com >>> >>> Play List >>> >>> Artist(s): Alexander Von Schlippenbach >>> Song: The Living Music >>> Album: The Living Music (1969) >>> More info: http://www.jazzloft.com/p-36360-the-living-music.aspx >>> >>> Artist(s): Iannis Xenakis >>> Song: Zbigniew Karkowski: Doing By Not Doing >>> Album: Persepolis Remixes Edition 1 (2002) >>> More info: http://www.amazon.com/Doing-By-Not/dp/B000TE1XHQ >>> >>> Artist(s): Jeff Kaiser & Andrew Pask >>> Song: Blue Air Habit >>> Album: The Choir Boys >>> More info: http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD024.html >>> >>> Artist(s): Vladimir Ussachevsky >>> Song: Sonic Contours, Piece for Tape Recorder, Computer Piece No. 1, Two >>> Sketches for a Computer Piece (Part I), and Two Sketches for a Computer >>> Piece (Part II) >>> Album: Pioneers Of Electronic Music >>> More info: >>> http://www.amazon.com/Pioneers-Electronic-Vladimir-Ussachevsky-Davidovsky/dp/B000EU1H44 >>> >>> Artist(s): Sun Ra >>> Song: Space Is The Place >>> Album: Space Is The Place (1972) >>> More info: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:39ftxqtgld0e >>> >>> Artist(s): Roscoe Mitchell and Thomas Buckner >>> Song: VFPSA >>> Album: 8 O'Clock: Two Improvisations (2001) >>> More info: http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=274 >>> >>> Artist(s): Axel Dorner And Fred Lonberg-Holm >>> Song: 5 >>> Album: Object 1 (2003) >>> More info: >>> http://www.emusic.com/artist/Axel-Dorner-And-Fred-Lonberg-Holm-MP3-Download/11608691.html >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 14:25:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FEC63BE85; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.209.11.87] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <3f8d9ee60908060114t581ca89fo2561fae310f74f61@mail.gmail.com> <7081532B-9297-464E-9948-7F4C7E1E54C4@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:25:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2009 14:25:37.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[C49698B0:01CA16A1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:25:38 +0000 (UTC) No, I haven't got around to that yet. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Kris does the show appear in itunes as suscribable or is it not > considered a podcsst? > > Jim > > Sent from my iPod > > On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:23 AM, "Krispen Hartung" > wrote: > >> Not sure, the radio station handles all of that and manages the >> agreements. >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> How much do BMI, ASCAP and SESAC charge you for this music blog? >>> >>> On 8/5/09, Krispen Hartung wrote: >>>> I'm behind, but here is FreeWave Show #3 and playlist. The blog page >>>> has the >>>> link to play the selections. >>>> >>>> http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> Enjoy. >>>> >>>> Kris Hartung >>>> info@krispenhartung.com >>>> www.krispenhartung.com >>>> >>>> Play List >>>> >>>> Artist(s): Alexander Von Schlippenbach >>>> Song: The Living Music >>>> Album: The Living Music (1969) >>>> More info: http://www.jazzloft.com/p-36360-the-living-music.aspx >>>> >>>> Artist(s): Iannis Xenakis >>>> Song: Zbigniew Karkowski: Doing By Not Doing >>>> Album: Persepolis Remixes Edition 1 (2002) >>>> More info: http://www.amazon.com/Doing-By-Not/dp/B000TE1XHQ >>>> >>>> Artist(s): Jeff Kaiser & Andrew Pask >>>> Song: Blue Air Habit >>>> Album: The Choir Boys >>>> More info: http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD024.html >>>> >>>> Artist(s): Vladimir Ussachevsky >>>> Song: Sonic Contours, Piece for Tape Recorder, Computer Piece No. 1, >>>> Two >>>> Sketches for a Computer Piece (Part I), and Two Sketches for a >>>> Computer >>>> Piece (Part II) >>>> Album: Pioneers Of Electronic Music >>>> More info: >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Pioneers-Electronic-Vladimir-Ussachevsky-Davidovsky/dp/B000EU1H44 >>>> >>>> Artist(s): Sun Ra >>>> Song: Space Is The Place >>>> Album: Space Is The Place (1972) >>>> More info: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:39ftxqtgld0e >>>> >>>> Artist(s): Roscoe Mitchell and Thomas Buckner >>>> Song: VFPSA >>>> Album: 8 O'Clock: Two Improvisations (2001) >>>> More info: >>>> http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=274 >>>> >>>> Artist(s): Axel Dorner And Fred Lonberg-Holm >>>> Song: 5 >>>> Album: Object 1 (2003) >>>> More info: >>>> http://www.emusic.com/artist/Axel-Dorner-And-Fred-Lonberg-Holm-MP3-Download/11608691.html >>>> >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 14:35:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D95693BE8F; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:35:35 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=mHFWwYJFBNAhA3DtDCVfS/WuatrGNa+/y+QE7hFd22/eUxmV6TYrUs5tUKoW0iEjpaEIS15hqqgXX4li5571odCyYsagQCRqn1cniLeehD20pDzI/Eh5r5h9eK6CkVpm; Message-ID: <20090806092854.6wdnxn2nusg8wsok@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:28:54 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: parallels (was RE: anti-looper bigots) References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <000001ca1657$5c842390$158c6ab0$@com> In-Reply-To: <000001ca1657$5c842390$158c6ab0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Tony K : > >> Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive their >> sound from parallel fifths. > > I know I'm being picky here... but. Smoke on the Water is parallel > 4ths. I saw an interview with Ritchie where he discussed how often > that riff is played wrong (in 5ths) and that 4ths give it an 'evil' > sound. > Thanks for mentioning this... I wasn't aware of this. According to Hindemith's system, the top note of a 4th would be the root -- so the P4 could be regarded as an inverted 5th. I'll have to listen to this again -- intermodulation distortion would create a pitch a fifth below the bottom note of a 4th -- is it possible that we hear the root below the P4th even though the performer doesn't play it? -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 14:56:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE7053BE81; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 374 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:56:11 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 942704.36482.bm@omp406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249570196; bh=l2Ykn0voGK0AFh3KvlwONxOQzSKfcekEkGdCCH/eD2c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VCbuHpMAARmw/Sp1GB8qWFBkhpL2WQkhdzTSfcOJYY6bY4SS51E7ieJNRVnKjXEmA5iig3O3jSf2KV4U6W8Fv2XRNFZhatTEm0QhEp1SJ89QlALbBu6V/uiLLyTsVEPLATLc+CacILCl+t7gysath8dX54QJPgmh+LRfi4RSWRY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R2jQtF7iSI2rBVE1I1SYXSxrVLmIocIg02bBWwjprkBijvPD2B07ZmNT3nmaxLZEF4TUNiXs8Z+C2G9lpm8dtRPoehz9CbucBaB8UARjS0z67evWk8KtMNGykcsVATnn1nd/DkZRVRcQR44l6ouqh+qlyjw0l9BzaPM5LkTGcbU=; Message-ID: <728731.7576.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mO.7FFgVM1lyV4bJ9eM1BoRG_lJaDpe6q.lLLmtvLotm60xIT49iRezDbG4O14XLge0ijWpCH3Xin0SVFQJVPUcrYZBRkWN2DCoXlqc7FjkPCWy8GPdpnI7_KGoxqYRgENohDI74pmTnizgFln4lLUDk29akAdMJNSz2QLHqWY3a2NYwKdolga.Dm5ZBREdmY1Auqhg2Br1600VPBiuGCp651g_2KrrmU7h1p0SDdlYDM.T5aqAQPil62fkFG_q6zavCjTypJklh_GFSKV00kdUG9792INvx2WOwfuYJPBh49cnv4WpG X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:49:56 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1884455318-1249570196=:7576" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-1884455318-1249570196=:7576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Awesome! =0A=0AProblem is, I am going to have a tough time listening to my = cheapo Supro lapsteel now... :(=0A=0AThanks,=0AEric=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________= _______________________=0AFrom: Rick Walker =0ATo: LOO= PERS DELIGHT (posting) =0ASent: Wednes= day, August 5, 2009 3:38:48 PM=0ASubject: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live vid= eos up at YouTUBE=0A=0AHi all, =0AIf anyone is interested,=A0 I just put up= a youtube video page for=0ABill's project,=A0 New Delta.=0A=0A*_www.youtub= e.com/billwalkersnewdelta_*=0A=0AI posted four tracks (the entire performan= ce) of our first show=0Aopening for the wonderful Argentine looper, Juana M= olina=0Aat the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz.=0A=0AThe group , featuring all of= Bill's compositions, revolves around his=0Apsychedelic slide guitar and la= p steel, weissenborn,=A0 LP-1 live looping improvisations=0Ausing inspirati= on from musics of the Mississippi, Nile, Ganges and Yangtze Delta regions.= =0AI accompany him, playing=A0 different exotic percussion instruments (gia= nt calabash, liquid=0Aglass ghatam, kanjira and korg wave drum).=0A=0AIt wa= s a really fun gig and the video came out decently so I hope you all=0Aenjo= y them.=0A=0A=0A --0-1884455318-1249570196=:7576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Awesome!
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Problem is,= I am going to have a tough time listening to my cheapo Supro lapsteel now.= ... :(
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Eric
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=0AFrom: Rick Walker <looppool@cruz= io.com>
To: LOOPERS D= ELIGHT (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:38:4= 8 PM
Subject: Bill Walke= r's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE

Hi all,
If anyon= e is interested,  I just put up a youtube video page for
Bill's pro= ject,  New Delta.

*_www.youtube.com/billwalkersnewdelta_*
I posted four tracks (the entire performance) of our first show
openin= g for the wonderful Argentine looper, Juana Molina
at the Rio Theatre in= Santa Cruz.

The group , featuring all of Bill's compositions, revol= ves around his
psychedelic slide guitar and lap steel, weissenborn, = ; LP-1 live looping improvisations
using inspiration from musics of the Mississippi, Nile, Ganges and Yangtze Delta regions.
I accompany= him, playing  different exotic percussion instruments (giant calabash= , liquid
glass ghatam, kanjira and korg wave drum).

It was a real= ly fun gig and the video came out decently so I hope you all
enjoy them.=





=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1884455318-1249570196=:7576-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 15:06:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE2483BE77; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7AF178.6060206@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:06:32 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE References: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:06:46 +0000 (UTC) This is GREAT stuff. such an effortless vibe. Record plz? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hi all, > If anyone is interested, I just put up a youtube video page for > Bill's project, New Delta. > > *_www.youtube.com/billwalkersnewdelta_* From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 15:37:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F18B3BE80; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9Z4KkzFW1kDE3y2IpFCypwSH9DwZD5Ex7KVF+yS3MSM=; b=obNGPqwJOiTNbEmn0RSQQY5xleBjI/LS7gTcw5gi7dbiVgv28GllyJT5Hdj3api+Ig b8SiiRrOIDAo+oay5OFHWdGPuoMyfj3ANFPVEy8lTTEW4PdO30grmxQ6L5eAWGOsNvyc FFNIuEmyPEtsnUsE1TDPIEjV0vwykxUzEuhng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QAdhtx9Ry49J75FW2GzoNGbvhaZVTaWULmju95350UDYHom2S6hjkf/Y8874ew++J/ 8VwMhzLJ+ErmbHzjhDDG3MQXooHD7o62T0ZVybdagoBzCerzqG4DG0a0rxGQEBvLT7Gd 0BbaOIjQu2VUeqUEcX+G1xCrIACDseJeTO+n4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A7AF178.6060206@mhorse.com> References: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> <4A7AF178.6060206@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:37:39 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908060837t347446a9pf7ff32c6f4ec48b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c598ab59145c04707ae6dc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:37:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c598ab59145c04707ae6dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Man these are right in the heart of southern past you guys. Really beautiful vibes. Rick what's the percussion array you are using, particularly the shell like bck that looks a bit like an oud back actually, then the water jug or 'bong' that's pretty neat... as I commented really lovely stuff and love the 'haunt'. --001636c598ab59145c04707ae6dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Man these are right in the heart of southern past you guys.=A0 Really beaut= iful vibes.=A0 Rick what's the percussion array you are using, particul= arly the shell like bck that looks a bit like an oud back actually, then th= e water jug or 'bong' that's pretty neat... as I commented real= ly lovely stuff and love the 'haunt'.
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------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA16B9.DCAB5FE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 17:29:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB8203BE79; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wy+eAAYd2jNF5Vqc79l6SzXD5LLbEyeFC5xf1cvtbEU=; b=CmRf7HBUDYHfAAT+Z7+v8Q4lGJN9JcWN6RR6qmeCH0bMscAxxd6pYeRZAEmQtP0hA8 Oo4fDEstQx5vHtg1142B+EtX0xStwP5FJR+hDkJJD2eJHXQZ/EJ4bS7SYCgZ2m0mzvhY /HcvYVObzQK1c7P9e1ObKCFF0ap82ts/8OafE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GX8CYXXD9gtC1cQW7fnszVUIYovy1/WRbsWfgdK++Dawc/6D85NevQYiWTbGk8GCXM jhdMOD4GMK4tA6h0VlR84ijNKxm9FNrT9FyUpmo4hQ/mzwsoDZb4siZbQX8NS/YT2FBN nRBQOA7q1lJE1oqWzh+Pxy2+aua7AnEwmRPdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:29:30 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908061029v418be6e8sd707f29135e096f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d32a1b5a89b904707c7686 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:29:34 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d32a1b5a89b904707c7686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kris I may be missing something but is there a download link for the show for later playback, wanting to bounce to my portable to listen to to and from? It looks like the player embedded is Flash stream only. Maybe that's coming with the iTunes pod posting... j --0016e6d32a1b5a89b904707c7686 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kris I may be=A0 missing something but is there a download link for th= e show for later playback, wanting to bounce to my portable to listen to to= and from?=A0 It looks like the player embedded is Flash stream only.
Maybe that's coming with the iTunes pod posting...
=A0
j
--0016e6d32a1b5a89b904707c7686-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 17:35:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0CE83BE80; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249580123; bh=QM5lw+otYbqGc1FqN1NAkIlXeo4EEX/2+1zgBQlKdxI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iukLfJs9SoC30DDzUAXh+MNAM8PjybNK7FTo1iIo7EKD9U60/CQjJlMEFLLaFP24rj3YzQ5uOdOSYvbFrKKMld//VFyKOw9xKwYxekjbm8IBBO46l3Lem8u2uIvrAHvxoo6Sx2gs9V2o3J+Ek9wfIW5GoHnVYJkkOv4sikw2Ux0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NIrcvvUfw5k805o9BPhHFFYsgKqMg1zwXw7CAfeK0JGQdhOjN/8cnWjinB1/CIu7R3bA8wQQh5ah+/Az+M3CkL6JKo+FgIiJ5TCVcC+Uso9omEIGbgC1HQnS879Ex2K9Npp9CFZLS8+NBvJDq4uUe6pbit383/MY5x9aSZ0nORE=; Message-ID: <234990.66933.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lf4CnMcVM1l1zVTrr8WEHcqVXQI_s9ttBjY2.GP_ptPoo2vNXRn3k7ueGsSKnjw6o_ozmFBRHprRCdR6.zOsT9UgOdbx0EnDVXdMi1YoBNWSf5gUd9nFE1iVtpuPq6Ph17YAGV2ad6ODCbE5lWo0q7HpGeP_Ynh7MpL4.smO5I8YghZEkSOgPnfNQR59gOG1H6tX1IkOB2LPbReMjNpnAND0TTRCMJMwl_QVnwibEdznc12WCjTq4MhKEdVIvMIsiRPQ4ueT4djdwAnrrVipY9lQ4BVsq1nNYAI9YmKTSE3ysVYtDx04HlShJrEe2MAUig-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:35:23 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A7A30C4.3060407@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1459254522-1249580123=:66933" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:35:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-1459254522-1249580123=:66933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 My one-and-only successful=A0heckler put-down came with my high school-era = band=A0as somebody shouted that we should play some Pink Floyd.=A0 And, is = it happened, "Comfortably Numb" was next on the setlist. =A0 Of course, we always played it as=A0a=A0reggae version, so that guy got a l= ittle pissed... ;-) =A0 Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: From: Daryl Shawn Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 6:24 PM That's a brilliant idea..!..I think I'm going to put the first minute on a = microcassette and then Dictaphone it into oblivion when the need arises. rubbing hands together, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I was having a conversation the other day about making a circuit bent syn= th/sampler that had a "freebird" button.=A0 ie somebody yells it, you hit t= he "freebird button", stun them for a second... >=20 > And then, fuck it the hell up.=A0 Sample/resample/glitch/sequence and giv= e them something new. >=20 > -nn > happyhumans.org =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0ALooking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! =0A=0Ahttp:= //www.flickr.com/gift/ --0-1459254522-1249580123=:66933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
My one-and-only successful heckler put-down came with my high sch= ool-era band as somebody shouted that we should play some Pink Floyd.&= nbsp; And, is it happened, "Comfortably Numb" was next on the setlist.
 
Of course, we always played it as a reggae version, so that = guy got a little pissed... ;-)

 
Ted H.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

-= -- On Wed, 8/5/09, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> w= rote:

From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Received: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 6:24 PM

That's a brilliant idea..!..I think I'm going to put= the first minute on a microcassette and then Dictaphone it into oblivion w= hen the need arises.

rubbing hands together,

Daryl Shawn
w= ww.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> I was having a = conversation the other day about making a circuit bent synth/sampler that h= ad a "freebird" button.  ie somebody yells it, you hit the "freebird b= utton", stun them for a second...
>
> And then, fuck it the he= ll up.  Sample/resample/glitch/sequence and give them something new.>
> -nn
> happyhumans.org <http://happyhumans.org>


=0A
Make your browsing faste= r, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer=AE 8. Optimized for Yah= oo! Get it N= ow for Free! --0-1459254522-1249580123=:66933-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 18:09:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 562C13BE7E; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.176.245] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <9e0440a60908061029v418be6e8sd707f29135e096f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:09:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04B5_01CA168E.C9064980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2009 18:09:46.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[14D19860:01CA16C1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:09:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04B5_01CA168E.C9064980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Theer is a play button below each show playlist. See it? Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 Kris I may be missing something but is there a download link for the = show for later playback, wanting to bounce to my portable to listen to = to and from? It looks like the player embedded is Flash stream only. Maybe that's coming with the iTunes pod posting... j ------=_NextPart_000_04B5_01CA168E.C9064980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Theer is a play button below each show = playlist.=20 See it?
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 = 11:29=20 AM
Subject: Re: FreeWave Show = #3

Kris I may be  missing something but is there a download = link for=20 the show for later playback, wanting to bounce to my portable to = listen to to=20 and from?  It looks like the player embedded is Flash stream=20 only.

Maybe that's coming with the iTunes pod posting...
 
j
------=_NextPart_000_04B5_01CA168E.C9064980-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 18:55:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5701E3BE73; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; bh=mabfWoShYhnNXohGtK80oVVP7AGHKUNSqjrSqG+rNGQ=; b=KQaKytciawi8Cn4mrQVtrW+d2blLwdbx0SZTth2YEk39lzDPeny8V9FoXkkFq+A1rE Kztti2H4NhggnQZMvU7FEX0eSxvjeKn+xaNYyVesguuRdZhsio/Dq94zJEtSawYxwF6c OdgxC5QZJmTS0M/CZSpfr+9L0+wIJEkVTAn4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version :subject:date:references; b=afyfCRxf0NhibMos/QeqB81yu5/PFOCLaabG7bVMRKQCc3usKDy27OKCCJGBd39wB4 p36dwwuueYx58goUQcJTqN7Ws65jC16oPMDujG1cQZKCFZXopkTTqLXqidYSXy7qaBdE NOmZyG+mnov6ZIJxU2HqKxc6DDr8AAkXEBVx0= Message-Id: From: Jim Goodin To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-694772636 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5H11a) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5H11a) Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:11 -0400 References: <9e0440a60908061029v418be6e8sd707f29135e096f6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:55:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-694772636 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kris yeah i see that, but i was looking to dl it for putting on my ipod and thought the current flash player was only memory resident, maybe i'm wrong On Aug 6, 2009, at 2:09 PM, "Krispen Hartung" wrote: > Theer is a play button below each show playlist. See it? > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Goodin > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: FreeWave Show #3 > > Kris I may be missing something but is there a download link for > the show for later playback, wanting to bounce to my portable to > listen to to and from? It looks like the player embedded is Flash > stream only. > > Maybe that's coming with the iTunes pod posting... > > j --Apple-Mail-1-694772636 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Kris yeah i see that, but i was looking to dl it for putting on my ipod and thought the current flash player was only memory resident, maybe i'm wrong



On Aug 6, 2009, at 2:09 PM, "Krispen Hartung" <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:

Theer is a play button below each show playlist. See it?
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
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Kris I may be  missing something but is there a download link for the show for later playback, wanting to bounce to my portable to listen to to and from?  It looks like the player embedded is Flash stream only.

Maybe that's coming with the iTunes pod posting...
 
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--Apple-Mail-1-694772636-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 19:05:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 008F53BE7C; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6C1570DBE9F54A899357A926FE7F2076@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <7334ca1b0908051501j722b64f3kb9b9344c9bfbd238@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:05:49 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:01 PM Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots >> I think there's a psychological component at work in all these stories >> It's weird, it's kind of sick, but I think we're all built that way. > > No, I'm not - so you'd at least need to rephrase that as "most of us > are built that way". ;) > > Perhaps having that inverse filtering - that you vividly remember the > encouraging words, the crowds going crazy much more than the assholes > - is much more important than the 10.000 hours of practice recently > discussed? If one sits at the edge of a body of water, and someone else throws a large rock into it, will one notice the feather that was already floating on the surface? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 19:17:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7054C3BE73; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <382286121B05460789FC4AECA584C01A@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> Subject: Re: Windows 7 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:16:59 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Mark, Try not to jaundice the situation with your PC by trying to wish it into being a Mac. At least you didn't have to pay obscene money for your PC. And that's as far as I rise for that old bicker-fest. Go with Windows 7 - It's elegant and very well-behaved. I've got it running on the server here without incident, and was testing sw on it with no irregularities before we moved to this 16th Century farmhouse (where btw EarthLight Studios UK is being worked on!) in late June. 7 is running just fine in 64-bit, which I didn't have to specify during installation, btw. And NOT ONE CRASH since, which I find quite pleasing at least. I've pre-ordered for all the computers in the house. Presently the only thing I can imagine would cause arguments with 7 is that old bugger, obsolete hardware; or outright hw failure. But it hasn't happened here as yet. :) From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Windows 7 > I'm actually on day 3 of Vista and I'm close to trashing everything > and trying out 7. I have not had a single installation go without a > hitch or issue of some kind. It's like some kind of perverse > nightmare where Vista is an OS designed to only run itself. Frankly, > if I could find a copy of XP I'd be so happy. I have a few fixes > I've found on the web that I'll try tonight, but if I can't get Live, > Mobius and Amplitube up and running tonight I may just return this > computer and go back to my very friendly G5. > > Oh, btw: Macs are better. > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Stephen > Goodman wrote: >> Since the Win7 RC will run until June 1 2010 it's a fair bet that this >> will >> be investigated further..! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:41 PM >> Subject: Re: Windows 7 >> >> >> Over yonder on kvraudio.com a fair number of people seem to have moved >> to Windows 7for audio pretty seamlessly. I briefly considered it but >> after finding MOTU's 64bit drivers working well with Vista I decided >> to play it safe and wait for the release. >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Stephen >> Goodman wrote: >>> >>> Given the recent query about Vista I must pop up to ask whether anyone >>> else >>> is testing the RC for Windows 7? >>> >>> I've been running it as a server-type process for media files here at >>> home >>> and it's quite seamless from setup to operation. After seeing it running >>> just fine in 64bit server mode for several months - and the RC is much >>> less >>> tweak-requiring - I've wondered about putting it on a machine designed >>> for >>> recording-editing music. 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20:12:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DC943BE77; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TlxAumddVAGnIMSyblLfrncIqK3ZNH6WKXOI68EojNc=; b=TSbj8X6tu2Cgi+UKZ2ZBrhtelv0fzdEyAfh3cIpEwnSVkqqCSL3FsMLea3lcYD685f sMiWYKJinI52H148CFTsr6Y998fTEpflLY+EVZFQFyvPERD5LZNHqXJD5+ZJjUwViNzt D1zB1tzjQMGtr4V4zenIA47FUIG8MRK2SF4lg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IBhfi/lok9JzlDo39wjN9EN58A43Imu+FsCxEhmlg4pItJYT/ahBjIk09U0HDK5pAV 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drivers particularly audio can be a chase. I recently did an HP laptop and though I found the drivers kept playing shell games with the audio drivers, it would work then it would be canceled out by another driver update. In the end I had to give it to the end user without sound but XP was stable so they were happy. I've done 3 rollbacks in my day work. For some things I tend to agree re Apple as that's what I use beyond my day work but neither system is without 'sin' j --0016e6d32a1b91227404707ebcf0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you want to rollback I can get you a copy of XP but depending on th= e hardware you're dealing with, getting XP drivers particularly audio c= an be a chase.=A0 I recently did an HP laptop and though I found the driver= s kept playing shell games with the audio drivers, it would work then it wo= uld be canceled out by another driver update.=A0 In the end I had to give i= t to the end user without sound but XP was stable so they were happy.=A0 I&= #39;ve done 3 rollbacks in my day work.
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For some things I tend to agree re Apple as that's what I use beyo= nd my day work but neither system is without 'sin'
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--0016e6d32a1b91227404707ebcf0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 20:58:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E1903BE77; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: livelooping in antwerp Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:58:03 +0200 Message-ID: <014001ca16d8$97459ff0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: AcoW2JbTpQYq/FM7RHqe3yHk7xrHZA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:58:05 +0000 (UTC) http://www.vimeo.com/5977639 -michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 21:05:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 194453BE78; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oI5S9zcIeZqV2saS90MXYfIeD95xVRFZG2wN9lrcXv0/mdUWJx5COaKaVMGGsu41QstOcc6xPZzgIDl99VVowH6tXMSvh6zijMWQ0x1cyyt8wCr4zI/Of8oAYv/4Kn+C5oRn71/ccxNlg8vr7kXLsCLb9ubJLfJ4ukD12OVzP58= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: KY_Clc4VM1k04kGN6md2FOKwO29BH8barFlFNcXG_WRB1llUqfaA3oCkqlTDxXzrxf_72icu6TFd.2jsBIaeW0aqcTyh_a3nkoQqDaaPB80H7mKbATGB6d_4HvAouT83Py0usglIEyPfHvt90IpL5KEfsPTdilclHqYgRFUR6DBQ.8jpi0HLM3g.AOpbJ0961rVYBYuiEAuGoga0kTkTE2L5eSK_aQCTEIFJVVSWjUpSyusslkl03LOxPb.HlGp3LanmbnMuaVA.fQYluiUE.rTkpcsXvS9ZFdZJ94483qmcm95KvWg.lkKmrBYt91ZGlJV9EZeW.al3CBjggYS7.uzDck7_WI3Pwg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <014001ca16d8$97459ff0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: livelooping in antwerp Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:05:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Great Stuff, Michael! Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: livelooping in antwerp > http://www.vimeo.com/5977639 > -michael > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/06/09 05:57:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 6 21:28:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DF5D3BE75; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zB4Sombe+Xfq3ZK7+lMUAnN+++OfyzIN85kpxxywgLE=; b=CEBeTdCmF0arBaNel7NAqamzzBMrPeSt49HkwcitvyUvdKtEh6j+zV/twizeyoX/0s K/cmCdHoz4OgK0EAnO5i6KNjLtldK+MjUSySJ+wFs/ZjrltlyM14/MXshcbM0LXwvSAr w9NAoHxNGNx7NRtZkzkeHE6L3rFgzX+/PNw/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TjpwLAg3xBC2n0C3Bkl0CIBGbp0TT1HSNCdg+tackm2Pahs5beTNACRSX2WUGGCn3L xJv20kx+MrWyJr68uPNVw8Esx6WAgLb2UirEDZFztikH6O9Y8CHwR8GTIt5pqLxH/2WQ sp3uNtzqnpaK9lv+TztG4HzARDA2VtRkyo0aU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908061312q5c4180aay1608197504f17451@mail.gmail.com> References: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> <9e0440a60908061312q5c4180aay1608197504f17451@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:28:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30908061428n682c785djb2e872a32348694f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Windows 7 From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:28:09 +0000 (UTC) To balance the discussion: I bought a cheap HP (Compaq) Vista box, making sure it had one extra slot for my old M-Audio Delta-66. Expecting the worst, I began with the notion of just getting internet connectivity dialed. I used a Hawking USB wireless adapter. No hitches=97connectivity came up after plugging in my router key. After a few days mucking around, downloading Audacity so I had a basic recorder (ditched all my old Win-98 Sonic Foundry suite of tools), and had them feeding the regular audio outs. No problem. Finally I decided to see if my 10 year old audio i/f was going to work. Opened up the box, installed the card, started the system and had a couple bad internet searches for drdivers, finally found the correct driver, set up the control panel, done. To my absolute amazement, my system pretty much came up as a plug-and-play install. I feel Vista is a bit "chatty" regarding security, but otherwise it's been a breeze. If Windows 7 is better I'm totally stoked. I know many folks have trouble with MS, but I've heard lots about Apple stuff too. Your mileage may vary . . . -m On 8/6/09, Jim Goodin wrote: > If you want to rollback I can get you a copy of XP but depending on the > hardware you're dealing with, getting XP drivers particularly audio can b= e a > chase. I recently did an HP laptop and though I found the drivers kept > playing shell games with the audio drivers, it would work then it would b= e > canceled out by another driver update. In the end I had to give it to th= e > end user without sound but XP was stable so they were happy. I've done 3 > rollbacks in my day work. > > For some things I tend to agree re Apple as that's what I use beyond my d= ay > work but neither system is without 'sin' > > j --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 02:59:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00EBA3BE77; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1249613948; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=KEspRj0C5M0SIKL4zi3x/2F6+0c=; b=oBEeWySpH6d/kagTGTspnO+HsOCrZIzzw0VmjypZx34Rcm98e0k2RMs/0+Babs8j dxAHuNyqBz2WCUEE+ChHn5H1TPY5iCB7GQdD5hdsSoTxh+c3YPDPxHYrfuBl0/ci; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=lpK9E2r8E10vSEcGk3YA:9 a=BR4OHen4tDU7tMoFsYBVahxm120A:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000901ca170b$087cdbc0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Looper vid Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:59:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <9swQYD.A.3KH.9h5eKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:59:09 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwq0i6jP7dQ Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 04:34:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B68903BE77; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rk9nesIdbKryzUqDEQG5LyMp5cnDEypeRABGpLvZcfI=; b=eHc3bB67xqWRnXgbnSe3shVNhcMQOkzR7v0iv++bb6+/cbjszxrfLL8+Jhhz00+zfO kSXMsTsFXLOVZKMHgXovB3r3LUO+7ZIJDA0uQ6jXLWnev5k7v6I7e5yNTN+M+y/nM0l0 R06+K03MymInZGOfom9CBvMv+bP2rc2f9omz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V3njL3varpUF5ZPH39wJ5awZhTBcUG02fiZpmx/ufe8ReAM/VYC5xuEsPO1Y8F8MDw Z895UMEAUldWmTH4Nb/6mNMsv7S5vS95ETXA/ES8pGivtDsZPtQ/zrXyca72LgX8bvMb QNYMhM69eMxZubPXVAdeCFHnDl3WDgF6LB/Y4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090806092854.6wdnxn2nusg8wsok@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <000001ca1657$5c842390$158c6ab0$@com> <20090806092854.6wdnxn2nusg8wsok@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:34:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: parallels (was RE: anti-looper bigots) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_xVwq.A.PqB.k76eKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:34:44 +0000 (UTC) ... in very ancient times (dinousars were alive) also direct 4ths should be avoided, previously preparing one of both notes ... 2009/8/6, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com : > Quoting Tony K : >> >>> Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive their >>> sound from parallel fifths. >> >> I know I'm being picky here... but. Smoke on the Water is parallel >> 4ths. I saw an interview with Ritchie where he discussed how often >> that riff is played wrong (in 5ths) and that 4ths give it an 'evil' >> sound. >> > Thanks for mentioning this... I wasn't aware of this. > > According to Hindemith's system, the top note of a 4th would be the > root -- so the P4 could be regarded as an inverted 5th. I'll have to > listen to this again -- intermodulation distortion would create a > pitch a fifth below the bottom note of a 4th -- is it possible that we > hear the root below the P4th even though the performer doesn't play it? > > -- Kevin > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 05:00:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A5773BE73; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated-Name: TuleRiver Message-ID: <4A7BB4C7.2010705@asyouthink.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:59:51 -0700 From: CM User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Distressing trends References: <101191640908060639i768af10fwfa5589658b389566@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Charles -- Endurance w/one another is part of what it means to be Community. Thanks for enduring... Warren -- love your Summary O' The Rules. Thanks for sharing 'em. I post rarely here, but watch in amazement muchly. What you/we have here is pretty amazing. Keep it. C Charles Zwicky wrote: > Word.... the ego clashes are just embarrassing. I was going to > unsubscribe until I saw this post by Warren.... > >> I'm sorry to say that this list has become distressingly childish >> lately. There is one simple rule: don't say negative things about >> other people publicly unless they are asking for criticism or quite >> disruptive. Be opinionated as you want, disagree all you want, but >> don't attack or characterize people personally. How hard is that? >> >> Skip the mea culpas, skip the explanations, just keep your sht to >> yourselves, ok? There's so much value here, but it gets very >> unpleasant sometimes. >> >> Warren > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 08:47:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FCF73BE78; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7BEAB5.8020008@het.it> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:49:57 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: livelooping in antwerp References: <014001ca16d8$97459ff0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <014001ca16d8$97459ff0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Fantastic! greetings from florence! Massimo Michael Peters ha scritto: > http://www.vimeo.com/5977639 > -michael > > > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 10:17:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 857833BE79; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7BFF1E.2040205@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:17:02 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OMID SHIRAZI aka Mr. Funk rocks!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:17:09 +0000 (UTC) I don't know if this video has been pointed out already but I went by and checked out Mr. Funk's wonderful invention of a midi controller, an Electrix Repeater and even an alesis airFX into a playing 'instrument' (that he says also controls video synthesis to but that's for a later video). Using acapella voice, Omid Shirazi really conjures a whole world and with a very cool , visual presentation that's fun to watch. Mixing reggae, hip hop and middleeastern modalities and singing styles I was just enthralled watching it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs Why don't I have a million dollars to bring this guy to the loopfestival this year? Great work, Omid. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 10:48:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B74FE3BE73; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249642114; bh=P39qlfunxXbNPjtaPswLbmPkRHvzkNoeMUA2+bmw2zA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B5Yt+i4CKsaux1cI237pE4uIBm5hLzc+WQedJCjQniJZScOzuhPritLjHFaRtNIfLaXHthcMlqQiKQyk1ZVsJIB73RhvdKtIszCR/NskVJwHcyGNda6B+ZnI0krYekGL8AHJIqQv++rMg0tBW0Ucfzrnq260GiXhdmfZIHuzRnY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3hWheQO/9KYjMdrnsRv6VwT7a5cMaAovckgo2MRhmhrUb/7SIoajIzQ8DkNZSogMip14T5DW+MNgJBOVw6wOAfnvbnl0fJ8VwkmTl+z6Nu9OKCjSy5s7UKALzdSeW2bkRpxwxxFLMYd9H91m/ww3YF2ThXGASGJbmGTov3JFvUA=; Message-ID: <443734.6644.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:48:34 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up at YouTUBE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A79DFC8.6060102@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:48:35 +0000 (UTC) rock on Walker bros!=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Rick Walke= r schrieb am Mi, 5.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Rick Walker =0A> Betreff: Bill Walker's New Delta: Live videos up a= t YouTUBE=0A> An: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" =0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 5. August 2009, 12:38=0A> Hi all, =0A> If any= one is interested,=A0 I just put up a youtube=0A> video page for=0A> Bill's= project,=A0 New Delta.=0A> =0A> *_www.youtube.com/billwalkersnewdelta_*=0A= > =0A> I posted four tracks (the entire performance) of our first=0A> show= =0A> opening for the wonderful Argentine looper, Juana Molina=0A> at the Ri= o Theatre in Santa Cruz.=0A> =0A> The group , featuring all of Bill's compo= sitions, revolves=0A> around his=0A> psychedelic slide guitar and lap steel= , weissenborn,=A0=0A> LP-1 live looping improvisations=0A> using inspiratio= n from musics of the Mississippi, Nile,=0A> Ganges and Yangtze Delta region= s.=0A> I accompany him, playing=A0 different exotic percussion=0A> instrume= nts (giant calabash, liquid=0A> glass ghatam, kanjira and korg wave drum).= =0A> =0A> It was a really fun gig and the video came out decently so=0A> I = hope you all=0A> enjoy them.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 12:08:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C20723BE78; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2VD6ISg9NrwA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=LMzk3HdB_MA9r94XqyMA:9 a=j6kq4Po-zUor1QUqpFK5sc9ZC2AA:4 a=cI1iyxTXqcKr8evY:21 a=inSplH57uIYy0wtv:21 Message-Id: <96FB11D2-848D-4D36-9490-41A8BADFF0E1@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A7BFF1E.2040205@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OMID SHIRAZI aka Mr. Funk rocks!!!! Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:07:55 -0700 References: <4A7BFF1E.2040205@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Too much fun. On Aug 7, 2009, at 3:17 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I don't know if this video has been pointed out already but > I went by and checked out Mr. Funk's wonderful > invention of a midi controller, an Electrix Repeater and even an > alesis airFX into a playing 'instrument' (that he says also > controls video synthesis to but that's for a later video). > > Using acapella voice, Omid Shirazi really conjures a whole > world and with a very cool , visual presentation that's fun to watch. > Mixing reggae, hip hop and middleeastern modalities and singing styles > I was just enthralled watching it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs > > Why don't I have a million dollars to bring this guy to the > loopfestival this year? > > Great work, Omid. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 12:27:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45AEB3BE73; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=kW4Zamh6FrG0i_D3ChoA:9 a=Laug7Vene7oABWOmGEcz5r8W634A:4 Message-Id: From: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000901ca170b$087cdbc0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Looper vid X-Priority: 3 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:27:13 -0700 References: <000901ca170b$087cdbc0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, Fun seeing Keaggy play with an ebow again. Haven't seen that in years. Got the instructional VHS that clip came from around here somewhere. Listened to some of your tunes too (from the other link). Enjoyed them all. Peace, Ted On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwq0i6jP7dQ > > > Jeff > > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 12:32:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 973A23BE78; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=j/5Uj8SoipvYLm8a0LNLzeD59UpuSa2KGL//ZcqOiGPJeRLbPPuSEbYZvPs5q3Js; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A7BB4C7.2010705@asyouthink.com> References: <101191640908060639i768af10fwfa5589658b389566@mail.gmail.com> <4A7BB4C7.2010705@asyouthink.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:32:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Distressing trends Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec790c2f82197ac76182c37638f5c5e17c87350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Right.>! Well, I've been here for over 12 years....! >Charles -- Endurance w/one another is part of what it means to be >Community. Thanks for enduring... > >Warren -- love your Summary O' The Rules. Thanks for sharing 'em. > > >I post rarely here, but watch in amazement muchly. What you/we have >here is pretty amazing. Keep it. > > >C > > >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>Word.... the ego clashes are just embarrassing. I was going to >>unsubscribe until I saw this post by Warren.... >> >>>I'm sorry to say that this list has become distressingly childish >>>lately. There is one simple rule: don't say negative things about >>>other people publicly unless they are asking for criticism or quite >>>disruptive. Be opinionated as you want, disagree all you want, but >>>don't attack or characterize people personally. How hard is that? >>> >>>Skip the mea culpas, skip the explanations, just keep your sht to >>>yourselves, ok? There's so much value here, but it gets very >>>unpleasant sometimes. >>> >>>Warren -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 13:00:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84AD03BE73; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7C25F4.2010208@het.it> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:02:44 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OMID SHIRAZI aka Mr. Funk rocks!!!! References: <4A7BFF1E.2040205@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7BFF1E.2040205@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:00:29 +0000 (UTC) amazing! the first complete looping station that you can wear! So an alternative of rack mount for repeater...:-) But... why it costs so much that guy? Max Liver Rick Walker ha scritto: > I don't know if this video has been pointed out already but > I went by and checked out Mr. Funk's wonderful > invention of a midi controller, an Electrix Repeater and even an > alesis airFX into a playing 'instrument' (that he says also > controls video synthesis to but that's for a later video). > > Using acapella voice, Omid Shirazi really conjures a whole > world and with a very cool , visual presentation that's fun to watch. > Mixing reggae, hip hop and middleeastern modalities and singing styles > I was just enthralled watching it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs > > Why don't I have a million dollars to bring this guy to the > loopfestival this year? > > Great work, Omid. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 13:14:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11F5F3BE7C; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:14:44 UTC Message-ID: <4A7C272F.1060307@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:07:59 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #644 for August 6, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:14:44 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090806.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #644 August 6, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight was Fields on Binary Records. Saul Stokes: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#aug PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Ricochet Gathering Frosted Realm Romania 2008 (Riochet Dream) Sorih and Xopancuicatl Atlan (Projekt) Ashkelon Sain Markus Reuter and Angst Dervish (DiN) Ian Boddy Between Interval Delta Capricorni The Edge of a Fairytale (Spotted Peccary) Igneous Flame Ad Astra Electra (Lumina Sounds) Saul Stokes Noise Coast Fields (Binary) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Saul Stokes Furioso Fields (Binary) Saul Stokes This Road Is Glowing Fields (Binary) Saul Stokes Imiye Fields (Binary) Saul Stokes Iris... My Fields (Binary) Observatory Saul Stokes Fields Fields (Binary) Saul Stokes The Bright Tones Fields (Binary) (Even Brighter) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Vast on The Foundry Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 18:17:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89EAB3BE78; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249669054; l=1634; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID: X-RZG-AUTH; bh=uvKnfP0+CFOt7iI1BfDjTROSikk=; b=XsQCF/vqY0a9oaReI9lMpzSSodYoR+Idj2QGt65hBXjUjbH+Wh9P+8K5fa3DSkqyU+Y hiXsmCb30DhCCQh/LfUDQGeLTl9xaRagmMhp/DFRkZvLtt1YgDl1j4iaI2qK3/pkDGO5M 6kHWymHyWDCGAqnv6hrQvScKcsFJWlKli88= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <001501ca178b$d42332d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: New track-with Sonuus Guitar to Midi Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:20:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA179C.91B55E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:17:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA179C.91B55E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New Track (excerpt): "Wolkenberge" by Christo Jota on: www.christojota.de genre: Ambient, Soundscapes Equipement:=20 Guitar - Squier Stratocaster (80ies) Sonuus G2M - guitar to midi converter Soundmodul - Roland MC 303 Groove Box Looper - Boss RC 50 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA179C.91B55E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
New Track (excerpt): "Wolkenberge" by = Christo Jota=20 on:
www.christojota.de
genre: Ambient, = Soundscapes
Equipement:
Guitar - Squier Stratocaster = (80ies)
Sonuus G2M - guitar to midi = converter
Soundmodul - Roland MC 303 Groove = Box
Looper - Boss RC 50
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA179C.91B55E80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 19:11:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4BFB3BE78; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=0+mftqTGsKpwTXFEepWFV1VMOCfJZ+zsOwC5lb1Wrfs=; b=dJxIY1aDPuW/qc+7fanA6DJFSBf3tBid9NMH37hdFTMzRsCk4Tti4pmiK+SNFzLwaP A6PPG9DdyxVj6dKQQ3DBafqi8+/xFqOzAqIad/ufnkG2y8qD6LFvPT4XMc04nvmVZfch QLUvOR7aj6Bw1fW/CwnKtdlsPadI3vfKyaLAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=hi+w4uV9fvssjWy1WkCDC/mNMGxqkPpc1bwhIijAei1rsLAepDJYiGBcozUBmCjITh x2yiob43lfJZe5r+UFvBEILkkE0rsypPMhoWabhmTn2hXiVYq705KtyfaOTE570ZxkpL fYazfTiY/qRW2MDxZ+akEnLimIRQRVBHqZv4E= Message-Id: <6EF9EF8C-6F70-47A7-832B-8D87C6CA286E@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Music is the prime objective (was: anti-looper bigots) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:10:50 -0300 References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3f8d9ee60908040742u234b1b2bg831cc99b1758a09c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:11:17 +0000 (UTC) good, Gareth... On 4 Aug 2009, at 14:07, Gareth Whittock wrote: > People get all wound up about the techniques used and create > arbitrary rules. > I fell in love with MUSIC and learned how to play an instrument to > be able to make it. > Music is the prime objective Music a such is the objective, like playing to the spirits? or the effect that the music has on the listeners? so is it about what they feel or what we feel when doing it? > and technique should be in the service of that. I've been involved > with the psy-trance scene for a couple of years now and nobody there > gives a damn about how the music is made or performed. They just > want the vibrations! would you say the vibrations are in the sound or in the playing? people come to se us doing it. one can cook pretty well out of cans... freshness is subtle once you know that the salad comes out of a friends garden, it tastes better > Use whatever it takes I say! ...but declare it on the package ;-) > And a big YAAH BOO to those who've forgotten that that is what it's > all about. hm... its not so much that I forget it but suddenly have doubts whether I every knew... > > peace love and enlightenment Thank you bro, you made me think! Matthias > > Gareth (blugaruda) > > > > > You got trashed because you didn't protect yourself. Next time, > smile > > and walk away. Let them keep their big truths to themselves. If > > someone opens his mouth and starts explaining to you what you do > right > > and what you ro wrong with your art, with your life, it is time to > go. > > Let him talk to himself. He will not mind, he will not be offended. > > These kind of people talk to themselves even when they appear to be > > talking to someone else. It is like TV shows. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 19:13:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A37B3BE7E; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 403 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:13:00 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Qso32ZIJwRjpSAyux0Vb5rkYC6XrVW0P8mjSZnk+C3E=; b=tlJbyi33FHJndXFTe1fVc7/ib8mUbpLI+RQA0NgcJa43Lq/c+15WiOV0u7mu5B2noi V+ruUTrgo5q6WOIV0Ga+P0eQHPrHoHD2QkDyASmGQfbtmUolo3ar1hswWXXb1Ui92mnj p1RKgZ5R9lufudIm6KZHe/RlV8DHyvjfCHpUo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=MFkU1j8eHF/mcjj/hNYtzsKVjKBX90IfKL2QJWp7vafmXULp6Dl1HfQhyK3GDfcHrY 0R8TO5B070s3QaNoIHgaiB+NeW3MdVN3ZDPQ62HH2xoCSX+AWolhdz/m63VKPS7/gxQe 6PePFKTQ+5FfxYq7ZtdQCANno4LoC2y2UrjXY= Message-Id: <496FB58C-A3F8-4047-86CC-E0A548D0ECE9@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090806092854.6wdnxn2nusg8wsok@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: parallels (was RE: anti-looper bigots) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:05:50 -0300 References: <7334ca1b0908051508t96885f3wf9c4398c3aee59da@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908051517p3ea86379o9ee7cb8e66a33fcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A20F4.3080406@gmail.com> <20090805215641.uzy2jqi6kg4k4o8g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <000001ca1657$5c842390$158c6ab0$@com> <20090806092854.6wdnxn2nusg8wsok@mail.kevinkissinger.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:13:01 +0000 (UTC) absolutely! I started building an octaver when I understood that guitarist dont just like distortion for their overtones (mostly in single strings) but also the undertones (mostly when playing 5th intervals) On 6 Aug 2009, at 11:28, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Quoting Tony K : >> >>> Popular songs such as "Iron Man" and "Smoke on the Water" derive >>> their >>> sound from parallel fifths. >> >> I know I'm being picky here... but. Smoke on the Water is >> parallel 4ths. I saw an interview with Ritchie where he discussed >> how often that riff is played wrong (in 5ths) and that 4ths give >> it an 'evil' sound. >> > Thanks for mentioning this... I wasn't aware of this. > > According to Hindemith's system, the top note of a 4th would be the > root -- so the P4 could be regarded as an inverted 5th. I'll have > to listen to this again -- intermodulation distortion would create a > pitch a fifth below the bottom note of a 4th -- is it possible that > we hear the root below the P4th even though the performer doesn't > play it? > > -- Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 20:02:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 411793BE79; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 368 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:02:33 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=73aVFbG6/RCcOh2DjGqXn3EZsRkhwjYvewhXwGpKEAk=; b=aBD6eQVIuEZIYzU2v6PZ45WsjILiWJwsHu1W34ia5MQdKhIH2vXxaC8iSdLePOF4ZD KGWTPE+aJel4R2w2GBZEttbcRfekGTfA3if3GxCCoyASpa+Z7hxuk09YE20eRlIXAvJ2 UwpPzdC6A0AFGQ8dTFXN6ouWIZjBOsaoO1wjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MCa06LtbLcnTcYmXUMUoNXq5KJdF5u+VxOXPJdfPPkbDt/8AjChCjlLPgUqDDnnTA/ rmuxWIgMFWN0MqNaLlHzxzU0AoOnEX/2z9Z+6kLcNZFAaHrsOyhi74LeHIZGvPwZRggb G1dE7jLqN98wKibu0zQPMWkclwYJTt/C3vnN0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:56:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: test From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ca0e866ac1047092a139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:02:35 +0000 (UTC) --00504502ca0e866ac1047092a139 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit test --00504502ca0e866ac1047092a139 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit test --00504502ca0e866ac1047092a139-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 20:12:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8B9E3BE78; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2ojrFF4HBKPWKdDeUnmmx3+EhHGi34cayn0D7I3YC2Q=; b=Jm9veB/OqNKpShssfQa8caUDrYBW9J35Xh7K8hwGl2C8qQFq8T23ygjTtPVNmgCkbC pbFbZZVt/HYBPtMnmph5rF5S02RzkeDUjQCL/MLE1y+6Qswr2yaGe35fE0xxQQ3xpr/p nk/Hlcg3j+hjpjajQeu/452kshioz3bMvny3Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eKAXYf4+ldoFwY6f74bYOKunzO0dKyUdNYZCufnddti2dKehuVn/Pt+M3V4jEqJIei 1Hr7yJaFKFkVKl0pHX/WhPIqCa7wF0v9ux5jjVy+s0ah7GRIwtxE7h+V1LVGSf0kxj1W I+Pvr9nAUoIt+hU45TEpWLGcy34m+IoOORgAY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:12:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30908071312s34372dc6kca00c859b37c02c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: test From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_o1APD.A.70B.WqIfKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:12:06 +0000 (UTC) I only saw the word "test" in your email . . . On 8/7/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 21:16:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 988F53BE7C; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fBlgGBPI5wxl4t97HrX2Qprco23yCbnpWc+reBk0pPE=; b=AuucCYqUKntzQtCwBcKfOm6rH03n7kiburtKAy8+yhBWS8mlTgR2fDgLcevk8mu9n+ LrbEICJiuiUfysVzU3J4zDMTiv2dr+k9KqFfOx34cjpLgF+xg8S6xfaye86s6fPLzSwq VeEfPJbJUMfZeT9lK3Ulsk06b32B3O5kR4iLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kAtkzKVEGCJd4ThwwSQTkPLGsEH2pBQkCowDZ6z4cA8kBYtJTfKBz7lLbdoY5sNiEr yysa2COjLE3YivsVOfjmgCXupDu5mfNW5CIi8mrCx00msHD2VBWIWG2BwfKa/ac0Ihvi g7Smq2lLmdMxniTfHB2rTkRZ3g+miJ+lBzCsA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:16:12 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908071416y5d6c898ex4ec9b2a491e0f648@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: test From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b0d9f29733047093be34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:16:14 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b0d9f29733047093be34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Test back at cha... On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > test -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b0d9f29733047093be34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Test back at cha...

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
test



--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music li= nks...
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ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
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--001636c5b0d9f29733047093be34-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 21:20:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26B603BE7F; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2867 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:20:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=+dUVxl0f3StwnklS49I7SISCHg6jbyJ7hQR5u8+uIFY=; b=j/ZOdTNu/J0ejBaX9SgMh3wWQbhPvmCp6T19EeXkzHjbYOoXmF8JGe6LE/0RbAAK42 TGNa53O9VT3rLh0cB9wwZElwbfjGHhPVOQpeqMn1W/ZzieqzbkcdPpohCLrSb4g+Pe/I dLeRkG9pQy41u4Q8bHV+3dHF5Vnqf0wgY4bn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=SoKFf6oEfWwsxTuY2q7PloJ6L88Ll1//fSROmOfr1Apj9XtGDEWUJRT1I/tFUNKoB9 55XuBE+oEn//oZSt7T8WiCeqaLfQeYvPFShflTGcyp6OCBMud3UDKIPZOQrqO7aZHlCK NzgQ4DT4JD2auDVE4u+o1/sX3q6oNd9Ce48vo= Message-ID: <000601ca179d$39c72fe0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <3fa302e30908071312s34372dc6kca00c859b37c02c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Re: test Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:25:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Hey Miko, Thats all I put in it...apparently it's working. I am still learning about Gmail. Behind the curve I guess. peace, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miko Biffle" To: Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: Re: test >I only saw the word "test" in your email . . . > > On 8/7/09, Jeff Duke wrote: >> test > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 7 23:28:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D986C3BE77; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249687715; bh=Cu0fk7VdynWath6DOxbYsKFKjD8TjM3NyJiKCaYcbAw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5NdCzUPSt1D7wV+7yzFg3bll/q7dJgWlaZfR5UnAqW0MT3kRe4DVnb3YaBcVg/KkoL53JxESq4SZojGmerH1TbolSYRM2+zyB4aVTS3zUzAIgMihTBNPxGrORHF8db7KNcaSlsE6/bzZrxdTkvrGG5zZqvKEpp1R/FAbC1hHQ98= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dvdhfBj9S1oGMhm+Y44uJcVY+M3JqJgGeToxRA7T6fwhOVomKdDPWh2SxvBg2DuGVMTi/ZUafbF3bmAdx4naOKuc2HYrjLW3Hk0+O80N1jL7hOtabj9Z82euu5taElOCxSiFdmaG75ABp2CODptETvvePWGurVM2mzYzmMId4Eg=; Message-ID: <595567.60441.qm@web39204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: yjyEa_IVM1nt6SeTflny6heKPLLP3ORlSEmzi0MHF1ymzhIcIl_m8pRfy0wTMV5EYQgcK2WamrodEWuVBdjM5sBsy8izKjLG9O8eoZaZszC9wdpOuVjI3k.0fuLLnJwcdGMC6pfHMWAmrwheKq0XLHzTvPi9HIZi2vqEVMy6aSzpDbRu.Tir_UAPmVltsZ0Y6jxrVVMK.5UKKeRCKxPNBUHrW_hkcjC3zjzxJmf1iL6QPAxldY41KFJ51KlIZEqQoxL0K.6tTWuyV1a9Iho6nKWAeRs1n8uMwEp8.OlSJm0Zp1RlzKo93TvT9snsWwzEGSquvaCFNUjfIzS4I6OTCU8v2dDfPJA4.cgwPDLC15CzFE1xiqE1nbFwaleDST4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:28:35 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Looper vid To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-692032977-1249687715=:60441" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:28:36 +0000 (UTC) --0-692032977-1249687715=:60441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He' s the one that initially got me interested in looping.....although it w= as 15 yrs after i was blown away by his show that i finally purchased my fi= rst looper unit ......;-) Kyle=A0 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0=A0=20 --- On Fri, 8/7/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn Subject: Re: Looper vid To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 7:27 AM Jeff, Fun seeing Keaggy play with an ebow again. Haven't seen that in years. Got the instructional VHS that clip came from around here somewhere. Listened to some of your tunes too (from the other link). Enjoyed them all. Peace, Ted On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dwwq0i6jP7dQ > > > Jeff > > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace --0-692032977-1249687715=:60441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
He' s the one that initially got me intereste= d in looping.....although it was 15 yrs after i was blown away by his show = that i finally purchased my first looper unit ......;-)

Kyle
 
<= a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"font-weight: bold;" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"h= ttp://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten = http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten         

  




--- On Fri, 8/7/09, tEd =AE KiLL= iAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
Subject= : Re: Looper vid
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Friday= , August 7, 2009, 7:27 AM

Jeff,

Fun = seeing Keaggy play with an ebow again.

Haven't seen that in years.
Got the instructional VHS that clip came from around here somewhere.<= br>
Listened to some of your tunes too (from the other link).

Enj= oyed them all.

Peace,

Ted


On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jeff = Duke wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dwwq0i6jP7dQ>
>
> Jeff
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--0-692032977-1249687715=:60441-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 00:27:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEF413BE7C; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=yAiw5F6WKNI1vbJQZECguHL1Kl9CxIRZJJ5UC3bQuk8=; b=o+U1pMQPq7Ckr5AlUz9pKFjHkYq3JZbT+cq/AMT7tlIlFRvZixKUTbauvtO77Rp+hE JFZYYPOYEl3LOOGhcBMhpE+KTe7+WNEmy8VXAy6kCLQUOPqTCIrq7qbWtL4AYz9tdmH0 agtmAZr2wr7la7OHj+P6/o5bmngn/GN6aHTqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IOOWma/uO4X66jgdlB5eh5Yx5y9GCOdKMFD6KG0AWDxiLMGEvpidq/S4RpNF9RPPX3 jy/mSydRQnc3WiT2lnO3xdEGu5VkPllbyC5TfowGmtuoEryGOTjtIgeuxxRmQZr5n313 UFiAuy9DzS3gtL8+msVKytqF208OLnO6nQ+AE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops From: Jack Schultz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb256f92fb504709669a7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:27:12 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb256f92fb504709669a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground noise. (sounds like it) I've narrowed it down to the output jack. Even if my EDP is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into my amp or computer. Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, the hum still comes through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs don't alter the hum at all. In fact nothing does, except turning my amp off or unplugging the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the looping material still comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer than the ground noise sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix this, or what precisely is making that hum? Thanks for any insight, Jack --0015175cb256f92fb504709669a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground noise. = (sounds like it)=A0 I've narrowed it down to the output jack.=A0 Even i= f my EDP is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into my amp or= computer.=A0 Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, the hum sti= ll comes through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs don't al= ter the hum at all.=A0 In fact nothing does, except turning my amp off or u= nplugging the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the looping material= still comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer than the ground nois= e sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix this, or what precisel= y is making that hum?

Thanks for any insight,

Jack
--0015175cb256f92fb504709669a7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 01:35:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A1A83BE75; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_62bcf685-03cb-4178-8536-169e2834bc67_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.69.142] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:35:06 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2009 01:35:06.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[754848D0:01CA17C8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:35:07 +0000 (UTC) --_62bcf685-03cb-4178-8536-169e2834bc67_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is it a blackface unit? =20 if so its all part of the rather unfortunate re design to get certification= . I have one that does this and I hate it =20 the good thing is it is easily solved by buying a di box with a ground lify= built in =20 but i still cant get over the backstep that has gone on. =20 i have two white units that work just fine as they are... i hate the fact t= hat the newest unit and the one i paid the most for..is the one that causes= me trouble and makes me go out and have to buy a di box which then takes u= p more space on my pedal board. =20 blah blah... =20 actually...if anyone want to do a swap a white echoplex for a black one ( c= os IF YOU DO use the unit in the "correct" way it is atually quieter then t= he the original design...its just not how i use it.) contact me we an swap =20 phill =20 Date: Fri=2C 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700 Subject: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops From: jackthebassplayer@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground noise. = (sounds like it) I've narrowed it down to the output jack. Even if my EDP= is turned off=2C it will still make a really loud hum into my amp or compu= ter. Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down=2C the hum still com= es through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs don't alter the hu= m at all. In fact nothing does=2C except turning my amp off or unplugging = the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the looping material still com= es out of the EDP=2C but it is a little softer than the ground noise soundi= ng hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix this=2C or what precisely is m= aking that hum?=20 Thanks for any insight=2C Jack _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years=97enjoy free winks and em= oticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_62bcf685-03cb-4178-8536-169e2834bc67_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is it a blackface unit?
 =3B
if so its all part of the rather =3Bunfortunate re design to get certif= ication. I have one that does this and =3BI hate it
 =3B
the =3Bgood thing is it =3Bis easily solved by buying a di box with= a ground lify built in
 =3B
but i still cant get over the backstep that has gone on.
 =3B
i have two =3Bwhite units =3Bthat work just fine as they are... i h= ate the fact that =3Bthe newest unit and the one i paid the most for..i= s the one that causes me trouble and makes me go out and have to buy a di b= ox which then takes up more space on my pedal board.
 =3B
blah blah...
 =3B
actually...if anyone want to do a swap a white echoplex for a black =3B= one ( =3Bcos IF YOU DO use the unit in the "correct" way it is atually = quieter then the the original design...its just not how =3Bi use it.) c= ontact me we an swap
 =3B
phill
 =3B
Date: Fri=2C 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700
Subject: Help! EDP output makes h= um louder than my loops
From: jackthebassplayer@gmail.com
To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com

My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud= hum which I think is ground noise. (sounds like it) =3B I've narrowed = it down to the output jack. =3B Even if my EDP is turned off=2C it will= still make a really loud hum into my amp or computer. =3B Even if I mu= te my amp and turn all the gain down=2C the hum still comes through my amp = at full volume. The input/output knobs don't alter the hum at all. =3B = In fact nothing does=2C except turning my amp off or unplugging the EDP. Th= e looping functions work fine and the looping material still comes out of t= he EDP=2C but it is a little softer than the ground noise sounding hum. Doe= s anyone have ideas on how to fix this=2C or what precisely is making that = hum?

Thanks for any insight=2C

Jack

Internet = Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotmail. Download Internet Explorer 8 = --_62bcf685-03cb-4178-8536-169e2834bc67_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 03:15:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA24E3BE73; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 03:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=RJpGDAY+1rTzHbH8e93q0hI74s8VwiPhxGrKbifLrag=; b=f3P61dULMaMMujHccJXcBzZlhQRFzTy6u+5+8LJrRvJWGvDm3tIQ19AC5jmDm2T4je pf6ei7yTGtuvB//JKYP9hiEcrELxw6mRdt4P3lyjHhMRpF4PkuZ98qqAEFddAind/I6q 0NpFh4D9H1FLCIyR1Lck4Otmvmc3iaQf+1sf8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=KF8nvaf73NQKQpfJahrNrqab2XNDsGBQ0+FB+lnnwyGBIo+P9rGANY5r11773IzE0Q ifMw/bnPPNbKwsWGXBs6oI+oNVEANAmV/bIYl6n84vPjYbdsn7G7NkxjcPae2IpyWJ2k q5Obp9apq4iiytcd3Kk/U2RCdUyA6r4PfFOUc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-811174156 Message-Id: From: Robert Jeffries Subject: cancel Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:15:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 03:15:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-811174156 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I think I can cancel my subscription like this. Thanks, but to many messages, On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:35 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > is it a blackface unit? > > if so its all part of the rather unfortunate re design to get > certification. I have one that does this and I hate it > > the good thing is it is easily solved by buying a di box with a > ground lify built in > > but i still cant get over the backstep that has gone on. > > i have two white units that work just fine as they are... i hate > the fact that the newest unit and the one i paid the most for..is > the one that causes me trouble and makes me go out and have to buy > a di box which then takes up more space on my pedal board. > > blah blah... > > actually...if anyone want to do a swap a white echoplex for a black > one ( cos IF YOU DO use the unit in the "correct" way it is atually > quieter then the the original design...its just not how i use it.) > contact me we an swap > > phill > > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700 > Subject: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops > From: jackthebassplayer@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground > noise. (sounds like it) I've narrowed it down to the output jack. > Even if my EDP is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum > into my amp or computer. Even if I mute my amp and turn all the > gain down, the hum still comes through my amp at full volume. The > input/output knobs don't alter the hum at all. In fact nothing > does, except turning my amp off or unplugging the EDP. The looping > functions work fine and the looping material still comes out of the > EDP, but it is a little softer than the ground noise sounding hum. > Does anyone have ideas on how to fix this, or what precisely is > making that hum? > > Thanks for any insight, > > Jack > > Internet Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotmail. Download Internet > Explorer 8 --Apple-Mail-1-811174156 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I think I can cancel my subscription like = this.

Thanks,  but to  many = messages,


On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:35 = PM, phillip wilson wrote:

is it a blackface = unit?
 
if so its all part of the rather unfortunate re = design to get certification. I have one that does this and I hate = it
 
the good thing is it is easily solved by = buying a di box with a ground lify built in
 
but i still = cant get over the backstep that has gone on.
 
i have = two white units that work just fine as they are... i hate the = fact that the newest unit and the one i paid the most for..is the = one that causes me trouble and makes me go out and have to buy a di box = which then takes up more space on my pedal board.
 
blah = blah...
 
actually...if anyone want to do a swap a white = echoplex for a black one ( cos IF YOU DO use the unit in the = "correct" way it is atually quieter then the the original design...its = just not how i use it.) contact me we an = swap
 
phill
 
Date: Fri, = 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700
Subject: Help! EDP output makes hum louder = than my loops
From: jackthebassplayer@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com

My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum = which I think is ground noise. (sounds like it)  I've narrowed it = down to the output jack.  Even if my EDP is turned off, it will = still make a really loud hum into my amp or computer.  Even if I = mute my amp and turn all the gain down, the hum still comes through my = amp at full volume. The input/output knobs don't alter the hum at = all.  In fact nothing does, except turning my amp off or unplugging = the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the looping material still = comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer than the ground noise = sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix this, or what = precisely is making that hum? 

Thanks for any = insight,

Jack

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= --Apple-Mail-1-811174156-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 03:23:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74A353BE75; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 03:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 23485 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:23:54 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=se1DVT3T4BqC5BxhqbpgB0KGOeQxCK6F8oQwWJR1tRE=; b=ieDhniPHwIZtNXrvVicWf4XJs6HiYCMNDnpvt8bnuIPhmlSncwcTTOnCpbUOj4Onf4 JW4nX4tXQAljdRuQOUGW4M1gW2oa8iyTEHl/du8e3zYN/EAqZcclnEPp3E5RoPCfBtXP SC6qlk4/xVqmll1snZJl0DMhlZy1T0NLFbgHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=LY6xop8Ro5Ew0nGI6NrurYZ2d6lFWLFz5feC/l9g1E/5L9KXTmd0gpJTtMiMyKHD83 1ANhxah8o0dAtjimwBTyhBFxj0gANF5jFDs+CB3zmr3afhKPNpAL2gPYYWw9v04TzZN5 02WTbqIuW3rtk/LUtZD7U5e8fcAC397I5spv8= Message-ID: <001001ca17d7$a6939de0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: cancel Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:23:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA17B6.1E0485A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <1ykr5.A.AeC.K_OfKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 03:23:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA17B6.1E0485A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Afraid not Robert, try this instead from the LD page: I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do = that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand. To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the = subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your = unsubscribe request to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun = of you and you will feel like a dork. Good luck,=20 J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robert Jeffries=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:15 PM Subject: cancel I think I can cancel my subscription like this. Thanks, but to many messages, On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:35 PM, phillip wilson wrote: is it a blackface unit? =20 if so its all part of the rather unfortunate re design to get = certification. I have one that does this and I hate it =20 the good thing is it is easily solved by buying a di box with a = ground lify built in =20 but i still cant get over the backstep that has gone on. =20 i have two white units that work just fine as they are... i hate the = fact that the newest unit and the one i paid the most for..is the one = that causes me trouble and makes me go out and have to buy a di box = which then takes up more space on my pedal board. =20 blah blah... =20 actually...if anyone want to do a swap a white echoplex for a black = one ( cos IF YOU DO use the unit in the "correct" way it is atually = quieter then the the original design...its just not how i use it.) = contact me we an swap =20 phill =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700 Subject: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops From: jackthebassplayer@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground = noise. (sounds like it) I've narrowed it down to the output jack. Even = if my EDP is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into my = amp or computer. Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, the = hum still comes through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs = don't alter the hum at all. In fact nothing does, except turning my amp = off or unplugging the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the = looping material still comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer = than the ground noise sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix = this, or what precisely is making that hum?=20 Thanks for any insight, Jack -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Internet Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotmail. 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Afraid not Robert, try this instead = from the LD=20 page:
 
I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How = do I do=20 that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you = understand.

To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" = in both=20 the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to:

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If you are on the digest version of Looper's = Delight, send=20 your unsubscribe request to:

Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com


Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will = make fun=20 of you and you will feel like a dork.

 

Good luck,

 

J


----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Robert Jeffries
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 = 11:15=20 PM
Subject: cancel

I think I can cancel my subscription like this.

Thanks,  but to  many messages,


On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:35 PM, phillip wilson wrote:
is it a=20 blackface unit?
 
if so its all part of the=20 rather unfortunate re design to get certification. I have one = that does=20 this and I hate it
 
the good thing is = it is=20 easily solved by buying a di box with a ground lify built=20 in
 
but i still cant get over the backstep that has gone = on.
 
i have two white units that work just = fine as=20 they are... i hate the fact that the newest unit and the one i = paid the=20 most for..is the one that causes me trouble and makes me go out and = have to=20 buy a di box which then takes up more space on my pedal=20 board.
 
blah blah...
 
actually...if anyone = want to=20 do a swap a white echoplex for a black one ( cos IF YOU DO = use the=20 unit in the "correct" way it is atually quieter then the the = original=20 design...its just not how i use it.) contact me we an=20 swap
 
phill
 
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700
Subject: Help! EDP output = makes hum=20 louder than my loops
From: jackthebassplayer@gmail.com
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com

My=20 Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground = noise.=20 (sounds like it)  I've narrowed it down to the output = jack.  Even=20 if my EDP is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into = my amp or=20 computer.  Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, = the hum=20 still comes through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs = don't=20 alter the hum at all.  In fact nothing does, except turning my = amp off=20 or unplugging the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the = looping=20 material still comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer than = the=20 ground noise sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix = this, or=20 what precisely is making that hum? 

Thanks for any=20 insight,

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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA17B6.1E0485A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 05:57:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48DDB3BE73; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 05:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W2sE5ffc26/N4T55lKaQpPZqx9IuOpkjX6NIJ+WBPsw=; b=fwdWjrVbJH4BxkxEYUvnfnMY9ujo/U8j6P+i6mFh3Sz2Z2d7tLLseWbZM3FwSnWwu1 oT7KoHhO+DBjmymZkioY6hb6jNF0gJ6P9xQfWufH9tTk7FwzHZBEODjejYVZpPXXXWCF 4gPaejKVoQUM7RU8WmjS9z4tMeMUnS1MIZYx4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ojITP9Qzu+EbNkYWpdECrYpBwwU8auz5snIeFCCU00Td7XNVopGCCAwDvrJwZeO2ib 2i78j+p3us/xr6pmXwYoAIYS9a/13HQAZMJyqHGvehtp/d+neehTIlT5zZHlmhuCXZ69 NPzdNEp9AAFUSMi47lZK3VKZ8Xr+eGKX0kGJA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:52:19 -0700 Message-ID: <3c3c57a30908072252i5acf8fc2vd9a3718aa950a2b0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops From: Jack Schultz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb280adb83104709af428 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 05:57:45 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb280adb83104709af428 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Philip for a solution! Do you have a recommendation for which DI box to buy or avoid? I can't tell the difference from online window shopping, but something inexpensive would be great. Jack On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:35 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > is it a blackface unit? > > if so its all part of the rather unfortunate re design to get > certification. I have one that does this and I hate it > > the good thing is it is easily solved by buying a di box with a ground lify > built in > > but i still cant get over the backstep that has gone on. > > i have two white units that work just fine as they are... i hate the fact > that the newest unit and the one i paid the most for..is the one that causes > me trouble and makes me go out and have to buy a di box which then takes up > more space on my pedal board. > > blah blah... > > actually...if anyone want to do a swap a white echoplex for a black one > ( cos IF YOU DO use the unit in the "correct" way it is atually quieter then > the the original design...its just not how i use it.) contact me we an swap > > phill > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700 > Subject: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops > From: jackthebassplayer@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground noise. > (sounds like it) I've narrowed it down to the output jack. Even if my EDP > is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into my amp or > computer. Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, the hum still > comes through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs don't alter the > hum at all. In fact nothing does, except turning my amp off or unplugging > the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the looping material still > comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer than the ground noise > sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix this, or what precisely > is making that hum? > > Thanks for any insight, > > Jack > > ------------------------------ > Internet Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotmail. Download Internet Explorer > 8 > --0015175cb280adb83104709af428 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Philip for a solution! Do you have a recommendation for which DI = box to buy or avoid?=A0 I can't tell the difference from online window = shopping, but something inexpensive would be great.

Jack

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:35 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com>= wrote:
is it a blackface unit?
=A0
if so its all part of the rather=A0unfortunate re design to get certificati= on. I have one that does this and=A0I hate it
=A0
the=A0good thing is it=A0is easily solved by buying a di box with a ground = lify built in
=A0
but i still cant get over the backstep that has gone on.
=A0
i have two=A0white units=A0that work just fine as they are... i hate the fa= ct that=A0the newest unit and the one i paid the most for..is the one that = causes me trouble and makes me go out and have to buy a di box which then t= akes up more space on my pedal board.
=A0
blah blah...
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actually...if anyone want to do a swap a white echoplex for a black=A0one (= =A0cos IF YOU DO use the unit in the "correct" way it is atually = quieter then the the original design...its just not how=A0i use it.) contac= t me we an swap
=A0
phill
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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700
Subject: Help! EDP output makes hum= louder than my loops
From: jackthebassplayer@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com


My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground= noise. (sounds like it)=A0 I've narrowed it down to the output jack.= =A0 Even if my EDP is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into= my amp or computer.=A0 Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, t= he hum still comes through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs do= n't alter the hum at all.=A0 In fact nothing does, except turning my am= p off or unplugging the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the loopin= g material still comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer than the g= round noise sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix this, or wha= t precisely is making that hum?

Thanks for any insight,

Jack

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--0015175cb280adb83104709af428-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 08:14:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D6473BE75; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_02c7b929-4c67-44ea-8637-787aa43e4bae_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Music is the prime objective (was: anti-looper bigots) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:14:20 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6EF9EF8C-6F70-47A7-832B-8D87C6CA286E@gmail.com> References: <24528.23820.qm@web39203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3f8d9ee60908040742u234b1b2bg831cc99b1758a09c@mail.gmail.com> <6EF9EF8C-6F70-47A7-832B-8D87C6CA286E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2009 08:14:20.0949 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B6C2450:01CA1800] Resent-Message-ID: <8oOrmC.A.NiB.dPTfKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:14:21 +0000 (UTC) --_02c7b929-4c67-44ea-8637-787aa43e4bae_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting perspectives Matthias.=20 I think it's like finding something - say a beautiful flower and taking som= eone to show it to=2C who will appreciate it. That would be the equivalent = of performing a composition. Free improvisation is more like going for a wa= lk with your friend and discovering something together. The risk there is t= hat nothing is found but the prize is the mutual discovery and the possibil= ity of a deep resonance within the discoverer and the witness. Canned and f= resh - I like the analogy :-) This reminds me of my favourite poem by the 17 century Japanese poet Basho: Breaking the silence of an ancient pond A frog jumps into water A deep resonance peace Gareth >=20 > Music a such is the objective=2C like playing to the spirits? > or the effect that the music has on the listeners? > so is it about what they feel or what we feel when doing it? >=20 > > and technique should be in the service of that. I've been involved =20 > > with the psy-trance scene for a couple of years now and nobody there =20 > > gives a damn about how the music is made or performed. They just =20 > > want the vibrations! >=20 > would you say the vibrations are in the sound or in the playing? > people come to se us doing it. > one can cook pretty well out of cans... freshness is subtle > once you know that the salad comes out of a friends garden=2C it tastes = =20 > better >=20 > > Use whatever it takes I say! >=20 > ...but declare it on the package =3B-) >=20 > > And a big YAAH BOO to those who've forgotten that that is what it's =20 > > all about. >=20 > hm... its not so much that I forget it but suddenly have doubts =20 > whether I every knew... > > > > peace love and enlightenment >=20 > Thank you bro=2C you made me think! > Matthias > > > > Gareth (blugaruda) > > > > > > > > You got trashed because you didn't protect yourself. Next time=2C =20 > > smile > > > and walk away. Let them keep their big truths to themselves. If > > > someone opens his mouth and starts explaining to you what you do =20 > > right > > > and what you ro wrong with your art=2C with your life=2C it is time t= o =20 > > go. > > > Let him talk to himself. He will not mind=2C he will not be offended. > > > These kind of people talk to themselves even when they appear to be > > > talking to someone else. It is like TV shows. >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years=97enjoy free winks and em= oticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_02c7b929-4c67-44ea-8637-787aa43e4bae_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting perspectives Matthias.
I think it's like finding something = - say a beautiful flower and taking someone to show it to=2C who will appre= ciate it. That would be the equivalent of performing a composition. Free im= provisation is more like going for a walk with your friend and discovering = something together. The risk there is that nothing is found but the prize i= s the mutual discovery and the possibility of a deep resonance within the d= iscoverer and the witness. Canned and fresh =3B - I like the analogy :-= )
This reminds me of my favourite poem by the 17 century Japanese poet B= asho:

Breaking the silence of an ancient pond
A frog jumps into w= ater
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peace

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Internet Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotmail. = Download Internet Explorer 8 = --_02c7b929-4c67-44ea-8637-787aa43e4bae_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 08:48:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 906913BE73; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ggxXWWAkYFTbAR4sM0Ozix5r3GibTGg4CYuKb85xHYE=; b=Hw6Y1/yaEW4W9icktvf4qNYRJMmU4LZfI/B4Yc5jn1Fs/v41Tsxm5A9f3jwf2RFCGW QuyWlSIVu1EYw11/6I3smCwMUYDpoI/rFACzeRwmJxZza0ha82+3QflhSKQi+9R/Ccds pNvB4Kjd08/1kKrG//m+82OT/n2TcIBcJ1DD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DnXO4kmoVAchJx4/81oGWjlid/cMOuUcFROydy/Vv/lejsjhnhMxGyMvNEY1epBN6N +kOvqjaMke2Qdu0QR3zkKXFKScb1qTQP4bBh/FZFyA8NnBcARh42OcvMp5Aqq3F7WFAt lfbuYo4bnRYsUCq9/u6Q+649T7fMECnCwoDVQ= Message-ID: <4A7D3BDA.6080703@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:48:26 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> <4A756643.7000002@googlemail.com> <4A759E41.6080309@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro schrieb: > Hitchhiking only works if someone's got it together to buy a car. > Couchsurfing only works if someone has spent their money on a couch > (and a place to keep it in) > > I'd love to live in a magic fairy land universe where everyone just > did the work they felt was "important." I bet that land smells like > a pile of garbage... I bet that land would be a pile of garbage. I bet against it...! We are all humans and as such part of communities. It works much easier than you might think. If you don't want the pile of garbage its you who would do the work because you would feel that work is important. If you are pissed of others who just throw the garbage around it would be you who'd kick those in the ass, because you feel that it is an important work to teach those ignorants etc. Those who are good at kicking become policemen, and those who are good at cooking become cooks. (The reason why garbage collectors are paid bad is a political phenomenon which hopefully will change in the future...) > Who wants to do that job? Would the building I sheet rocked exist in > that land, because let me tell you I did not feel important doing > that job. It did, however, give me the ability to buy my own couch, > car and rent a place to keep them in. 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It made me feel > ashamed of our culture where your self esteem seems linked to the > "quality" of job you have and not the quality of work you do. The problem is that we do jobs, instead of following a profession. Japanese workers are a part of a community (their company) and not just doing a job. You might not believe it, but in the west this exists as well... > Here's a question I have. If your tour can't even support itself in > terms of travel... why? Wouldn't you be better off finding local > gigs and distributing your music all over the world via the internet? > Just wondering... Daryl is following his profession, it makes more sense to go to the people who appreciate his music. If the mountain isn't coming to the prophet... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 08:49:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8CA23BE75; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7pGte9zFg2mF9ZCEyRgaiIihY0bRZDIZuhTzmng9CHA=; b=p6msnUhgN5lOFZQZ09Nr9iRa5VMLug9NiIOMBN/4I2sdQfLKLt45sOQowPjMCp8Jrc yQOxdyDbNj+AUHMfAICNQqe2dTlUxxDPwt8/5OmJMa3piv/8TW7DlAP3KI9oAKzmU4qs yjIBEcGMXx0yH2Q+yYFd7ukNgNWMeNX11ytLw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hidgazu3o11rq0In8Q4MAnHrLgJevr5Wn/An2LnTyx3S55pyV2Cd0LkV6XvtbbIqkA pZcP1nNxfQU9zn/LmA9Kj6ll0F8vFGvidYhwwqNuy8EeopJOeUc6KMyLLgrsrjnC3zzo pXWndfF3AP1YUE8+WOef+ZuHylG4SaAtt+86Q= Message-ID: <4A7D3C01.5010201@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:49:05 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody References: <7334ca1b0907251309q419e6f84ne6ad53911315b399@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907251309q419e6f84ne6ad53911315b399@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill schrieb: > Nearly twenty years ago, I got my first effector, a Boss SE-50. It had > an algorithm called "Multi Pitch Shifter" which gave you four delay > taps, each followed by a pitch shifter. The first incarnation of my Ondes Memorielles had been done with a Boss SE-70, which had twelve taps with pitch shift. It was controlled by a Midi only Max patch. This had been moved completely to Max/MSP since MSP arrived, but for the sake of controllability I restricted it to 8 taps, as I had only 8 faders on my fader box... The newest incarnation has up to 32 taps now, as I found a way to control all of them with just 9 faders of my NanoControl. I could up it as my processing power grows easily, as its just a polyphonic tapitch... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 08:50:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9592A3BE7C; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kGpgz+j2iJsHzrgATLTtUQNSwTi7YE/jmLcPuYSkzPg=; b=a6tOXmuvGFFCoKHJnllPPMnkW2mLzgWH0FWTgStXnsPWdv0dRnfkz2olX/SblWIW5S poD4L5m8USVThIow3jdGkhMNDSQaGyIAFPMJJpIJrfvMmU1oI9ejlglGYR46jdQ3b+S9 zvshRfKfFqg+TsMw6ZQ9MW75bfKWMjmsiRjuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hu2gZdlvsxpElATnKBb4kAd9hDWKWNtxo1y7LXFgVF5zKBJgL+AuE9MZmXz41KJ8jN FzrHoKUYa2v8ehCsTBKDxWN+02QpIv7a3bE9+Jq82r6tL2YFvJkgOtFJ618dPeJyZrxe GhoFe13MJoAV6As0sF/JVtdHgQVaHlRhiZ5y4= Message-ID: <4A7D3C37.9000507@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:49:59 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what cases do you use for your looping gear? References: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908031331l4ffeba3fgc9f5115769217af4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <0CRtZB.A.EUC.6wTfKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Milo schrieb: > A practical question for the loopers who travel a lot: > > What kind of cases do you prefer to use for your equipment & gear? My GoLight backpack, unbeatable in terms of weight while hitchhiking. But you have to use your body as protection...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 08:50:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2328B3BE81; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8fFf0oOKmyv9FAc4/GmhjZ6p1BdQgWWBNYeyj6TL/7M=; b=OUamce/W7T4Uua0kQB823wU4UAasoEl/t75svW0OXvio2/dFRj9dAPrf6kf6gXyhJG WjxOts8Bqz/kkqZcrC8OdnVwvrt+mshE2fO1JyiNwinKq0lKxdNBUGUX8DclKlDPWngK w6CMZGGwGhQncIOjnRQwu9Zg5TslCUfBouopo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JPWDB+3u/mSFdrHmxQ8kw7f17UbsFjMB6JX1dnkxJETTmpo3x9MsmD/+eaNSP01Xps F+SOHEgKKKu/t0KIn2IhQPJd86v/lEOyAdK0zA0T9/HgbwBEAGiHW6azCI+7fcthfcCK 2UZDKxdS4ZI/u8gSBjAf2qX4G6+JHYFvBwd7w= Message-ID: <4A7D3C44.5050406@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:50:12 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Ricky Graham schrieb: > And of course you have spent two weeks preparing a set and some jackass > shouts "play some slayer" or "freebird"... I'd shout back "icecream" and loop it with a feedback pitching up and down the same time... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 08:50:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB2A03BE88; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nJvLF4zngA9oQ+V5GfopHces54RJ9Gf8NdlEmBkDWcA=; b=syLT/EIeQ0tgv/TN5rHy+ZriM54oJgzww5BadThgm1y2K80m3SNmtz8yvcNp06bdTK TluQQvXsSTxITfw9SdR9HEdBiesacKg1nl0s1iGDahL2uegrZM7yKQVkymV6tvXnX3xx MGSpYZtFjJOKKShqFdG/efb1lckOgebBYBhZc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=czaq/8sYGKUtHeFnD8bxC7MyOLW+B8ViJevNv6HYxB91cQHjfafayJVxeNGJ0UbSxi lirgkKUaS3y41jSh0/LToHDeVCcpFrRC+MUoV+2iL8ek/Juq+il0D662Pu9yYYHQLm92 y0Ey+qNjdE2w0Yvqp3eJ4+C27gC4EBT+pmCT8= Message-ID: <4A7D3C69.4090209@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:50:49 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Convolution and software loopers: HW specs References: <4A796DBE.50200@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <4A796DBE.50200@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:50:50 +0000 (UTC) van Sinn schrieb: > For running convolution/impulse software, not for reverbs but for > amp/cab/mic/room emulation for DI operations, and simultaneously running > a software looper, I need the per-application min. HW requirements: > > . cpu speed for single core > . cpu speed for dual core > . memory size (I believe memory bus speed is fairly irrerevant) ... > Anyone tried convolution on an Atom cpu? Single- or dual-core? I didn't try an Atom, but if you don't need reverb, convolution for amps etc. shouldn't be expensive CPU wise. There is a buffir~ external in the standard Max/MSP distribution, which is limited to 256 samples, which is roughly 5.8 ms. (Not enough for room emulation, but that is reverb!) If you build the looper in Max, it should be possible to run it on an Atom. The memory size you need is completely determined by the duration of your loops. In Max you need 10 Mb per minute, as it will store audio in 32-bit floating point precision in memory. I had 9 times 90 seconds on a 500 MHz PPC Powerbook with 512 MB memory running. Atoms come with 1.6 GHz and 1 GB memory nowadays. If you are capable of installing OS X on a MiniITX, it should be a snap to build a looper in Max...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 10:50:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3E3E3BE77; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7D588B.10105@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:50:51 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Percussion for Bill Walker's New Delta Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Jim Goodin asked: " Rick what's the percussion array you are using, particularly the shell like bck that looks a bit like an oud back actually, then the water jug or 'bong' that's pretty neat... as I commented really lovely stuff and love the 'haunt'." The shell I played on "Makina" is a traditional percussion instrument played in Mali. It is just a large half of a Calabash. If you have listened to any of Ali Farka Toure's early records this is the only percussion instrument used and , typically, the percussionist uses small short sticks (like thick chopsticks) held between the 2nd and 3rd fingers of each hand to make the clicking sounds and the palms on the gourd itself to create a bass sound. In this particular case, Ali's own percussionist, Hamma Sankare actually brought the gourd I"m playing as a gift for my roadie/percussionist Sue Cole. He had promised to bring me one the next year but the Spirit Of Africa Festival that I had produced to bring Ali to the West Coast for the very first time was cancelled the next year and I've not seen Hamma since :-( Sue has graciously let me borrow that gourd for many years now. Typically it is played with one mic on top and a kick drum mic underneath the gourd that rests on a pillow but there wasn't time for this setup as we had very little time to set up for the concert, so I improvised and used my finger nails to get the blend of clicky and bass sound using the one mic I had access to. The water jug or 'bong' as you call it that I played on "Google Vacation" is an invention of mine that I call the "Liquid Glass Ghatam". It has four different pitches on each pain of side glass and the water inside makes the very thin glass have over a two octave range. I"ve consdered filling it with dyed clear oil that is more viscous so that I can control the pitch better (the slower the liquid the more you can 'tune' the pitch you are playing but with enough time you could actually get close to playing melodies with it. I found it for $25 in a Cost Plus and kick myself that I didn't buy four of them. I just love it but have to give credit to a student of mine who I was training for the Blue Man Group auditions, Matthew Shreiber for discovering the water tuning properties. He insisted that I try putting water in it and I though, incorrectly, that it would dampen it's resonance to much. He really insisted (even though I was a bit cranky about it.........lol) so I went into the bathtub, filed it up a bit with water and had my mind blown by the results. Thanks ever so much, Matt! I played a Cooperman Kanjira on "Mummy From Memphis" which is a very small expressive and low pitched South Indian frame drum that allows one to pitch bend like a bayan on a tabla set. I've probably put more hours into this single drum than any drum in my huge collection. I love it and it just is amazingly difficult to play with any semblance of speed. I keep working on it. It's the single most humbling instrument I've ever attempted to play outside of the middleastern Ney which is the only instrument that I've ever just given up on due to it's difficulty. (There's a guy online who swears that he can teach me to play it though, so never say never). Finally, the electronic drum I used on 'Late August' is a rare and very highly sought after electronic drum from the 80's called a Korg Wave Drum. I actually do not own this but have it on gracious loan from Matthias Grob. It's an amazing instrument that is one of the most expressive electro acoustic drums I've ever encountered. In terms of sensitivity it just kicks ass on anything that is sold nowadays, including the Roland Handsonic (which is a cool instrument but not nearly as electro/acoustically expressive). That show was the first show I ever used it at and do to some looping technical difficulties I was unable to use the four different sounds that I had intended for the performance which would have made it really multi-timbral and deep. Okay, that's the roundup for that performance's percussion. Thanks for the compliments, guys. That was a very fun show. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 14:47:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4187D3BE77; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A7D90E9.8060107@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:51:21 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Convolution and software loopers: HW specs References: <4A796DBE.50200@post.cybercity.dk> <4A7D3C69.4090209@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7D3C69.4090209@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Stefan Tiedje wrote: > van Sinn schrieb: > >> For running convolution/impulse software, not for reverbs but for >> amp/cab/mic/room emulation for DI operations, and simultaneously >> running a software looper, I need the per-application min. HW >> requirements: >> >> . cpu speed for single core >> . cpu speed for dual core >> . memory size (I believe memory bus speed is fairly irrerevant) > > ... > >> Anyone tried convolution on an Atom cpu? Single- or dual-core? > > > I didn't try an Atom, but if you don't need reverb, convolution for amps > etc. shouldn't be expensive CPU wise. There is a buffir~ external in the > standard Max/MSP distribution, which is limited to 256 samples, which is > roughly 5.8 ms. (Not enough for room emulation, but that is reverb!) > If you build the looper in Max, it should be possible to run it on an > Atom. The memory size you need is completely determined by the duration > of your loops. In Max you need 10 Mb per minute, as it will store audio > in 32-bit floating point precision in memory. I had 9 times 90 seconds > on a 500 MHz PPC Powerbook with 512 MB memory running. Atoms come with > 1.6 GHz and 1 GB memory nowadays. > If you are capable of installing OS X on a MiniITX, it should be a snap > to build a looper in Max...;-) > > Stefan Thanks for the data, Stefan. Actually, I do/did consider a miniITX board, but also consider using an Acer Aspire One netbook. Less expensive, both new and used. Neatly laid out for mods (eSata, 2.5 GB ram..). I found a Chinese maker of cheap USB touchscreens for those (and others) as a direct snap-on, soldering not even needed. Buy it used, replace the so-so factory SS disk for a modern one, and I have a neat platform for the convolution/impulse and looper needs. Sounsonsound resently had an article about fairly easy touchscreen programming for OSX. Look ma! no mouse! nice.. ;) Since this will be a special purpose install, I can turn off unneeded OS buffering and cache, so I won't even need to click shutdown. The only issue I'm still not sure about is whether the Atom has enough juice to handle the convolution. OSX snowleopard includes OpenCL for utilizing the graphics render engines for floating point. If it's fully transparent, I'll have far enough processing power. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 18:09:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DBB43BE78; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VxVP9Lm36PU809IfZ5Ing0fGBlL7+NTP0dmUwR+YlXU=; b=sNJucn8pMU5hvx8V2EDMtvafe6z4YwouwEvh3ZEMVbIbRZ7mm3HxYsA64GJvK88Ty3 9CTemIT1GcQ8rOciXqXQV5kyB56NYTnNRpDAUkKaXwrK+gV4YstbKfPLfZqzM/cnIlBv m5L9HVPWOtZktrWynOuFzT0slmnPNlxUReSTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ASj/EcEUH9HN80w+NW67R60F7auq1qygfn84jsErH/vC6VyMmw7V/R7ZrDMdwp/+Yo ltY9MjG5U1ZXvhHqvqqTqWjSfzXXihsRqdLBCKhbrlZHT7e68Gyvy7LSD/P5vlMCmsYH Bx7K352glfSkqcCydRbw7+u/uA7M+Xp3UyJ0E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A7D3C44.5050406@googlemail.com> References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> <4A7D3C44.5050406@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:09:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:09:17 +0000 (UTC) me and a friend who likes heavy-metal style the most, use to go out to concerts he usually recommends, and when the performer is reaching the bis section, he normally shouts "play the nun's song!!" ... don't matter who's the performer. normally, by insistence, you have all listeners following us ... once steve vai was even asking which song that was! ... it's fun! 2009/8/8, Stefan Tiedje : > Ricky Graham schrieb: >> And of course you have spent two weeks preparing a set and some jackass >> shouts "play some slayer" or "freebird"... > > I'd shout back "icecream" and loop it with a feedback pitching up and > down the same time... > > Stefan > > -- > Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 18:45:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0CE93BE7E; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=XEfBIdTIlcG7VWyYDq4x7F2I5dWHclj98aZ2yT66bFg=; b=Kkxc9EhMKsuReLBM8xLoxK5Bk6ra70ooIKnNcSBJUox2YWj/TNGz4t0u9c26DyKAmZ ILTqXAQytKLZrpgq1MYUWEuJeohlNeTX9F64H9/UTHM/hwH4ZYApz3OolsiZfPz4bzQF ixWlO1cQ2f+j0QwqCruBXO/ET0Ar0qk0a/vrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mrE2pODOSWljOBYDEg9K96a7e9AqSvrqQh0A0lwOt7vDv++TU4GuyYQtUYaR99a06b I5Rt+1F4/hLRr5kvoiR9Fle3ZB8Emyhmjp4yqbWZEe6MnQq3rduHpsA1NoWicm+NcbOq Vz7q117LSwGSSiW4MUbXcQBE/ijgL0ayxmH34= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:45:45 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908081145p49d57dc3w1442b5ffd5f9d7cf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual Gig: Jim Goodin/Will Romano - EoW - Live on uStream tomorrow From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a850b33f5a0470a5c261 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:45:50 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a850b33f5a0470a5c261 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder that as a special feature tomorrow on my uStream series *Sunday Morning at 11*, my duo East of Where with drummer/percussionist/found sound musician Will Romano, will be live at 2pm EST. This is a later schedule for the series due to time and logistics tomorrow, we'll be broadcasting from Will's house in Mastic NY. The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 so please tune in. For preview of East of Where visit on My Space http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere . Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, 2pm EST, 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan. For specific to your area please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ . I posted an excerpt from my last show on July 26, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzN6ryJ_onM . Plenty of 'looping' in this one. There is a longer segment from this in my Facebook page. Thanks and good weekend, Will and I hope to see you connect with us tomorrow at 2pm EST. Best Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a850b33f5a0470a5c261 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a reminder that as a special feature tomorrow on my uStream series = Sunday Morning at 11, my duo East of Where with drummer/percussionist/f= ound sound musician Will Romano, will be live at 2pm EST. =A0This is a late= r schedule for the series due to time and logistics tomorrow, we'll be = broadcasting from Will's house in Mastic NY.

The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-= morning-at-11 so please tune in. =A0For preview of East of Where visit = on My Space http://www.myspa= ce.com/eastofwhere=A0.

Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm C= ST, 2pm EST, 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan. =A0For specific to your= area please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/=A0.

I posted an excerpt from my last show on July 26,=A0htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTzN6ryJ_onM=A0. =A0Plenty of 'looping= ' in this one. =A0There is a longer segment from this in my Facebook pa= ge.

Thanks and good weekend, Will and I hope to see you con= nect with us tomorrow at 2pm EST.

Best
<= br>

--001636c5a850b33f5a0470a5c261-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 19:22:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27F2A3BE73; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1OSFwTZBr8EzGyXcyZo439v9xgSQ95IWkCM3oj5hC3c=; b=G1Fjin/laxbbmzxUhAQL71tzG58GH03MflaXcsA84MNsAtCTa5eE5go2lr8kkqo3fJ feS9Mfi3keNYOm5HrTYdNz16mfFUuQyTNRx3BM+TdjxSCD/F7PXt+jB6sgwf7L/w3W/o AY/6+mUAN0GapTEvX12ZaYySM4Rr8LGZNXPsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=k8jrEHQzDPZrPQa7DaYkIECBNMkqWwWCTVnh29lK4NRRaXTdA8sPohodUmC1ehQaJW GnL1UPS9KHO8dy1FuGyv6EUZ5kKpK3vP/An/BbkZkw6xfl9VkVxSTbMEjPWO6eNSbjHd NtK7y/PqsBlwTTEl+MG+rj7Cx+ldunH2pIa4A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:22:31 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908081222k71f260ala242967e9e62c242@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual Gig: Jim Goodin/Will Romano - EoW - Live on uStream tomorrow From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68fc5bb2fa2150470a64614 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:37 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68fc5bb2fa2150470a64614 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder that as a special feature tomorrow on my uStream series *Sunday Morning at 11*, my duo East of Where with drummer/percussionist/found sound musician Will Romano, will be live at 2pm EST. This is a later schedule for the series due to time and logistics tomorrow, we'll be broadcasting from Will's house in Mastic NY. The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 so please tune in. For preview of East of Where visit on My Space http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere . Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, 2pm EST, 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan. For specific to your area please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ . I posted an excerpt from my last show on July 26, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzN6ryJ_onM . Plenty of 'looping' in this one. There is a longer segment from this in my Facebook page. Thanks and good weekend, Will and I hope to see you connect with us tomorrow at 2pm EST. Best Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016e68fc5bb2fa2150470a64614 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a reminder that as a special feature tomorrow on my uStream series = Sunday Morning at 11, my duo East of Where with drummer/percussionist/f= ound sound musician Will Romano, will be live at 2pm EST. =A0This is a late= r schedule for the series due to time and logistics tomorrow, we'll be = broadcasting from Will's house in Mastic NY.

The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-= morning-at-11 so please tune in. =A0For preview of East of Where visit = on My Space http://www.myspa= ce.com/eastofwhere=A0.

Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm C= ST, 2pm EST, 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan. =A0For specific to your= area please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/=A0.

I posted an excerpt from my last show on July 26,=A0htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTzN6ryJ_onM=A0. =A0Plenty of 'looping= ' in this one. =A0There is a longer segment from this in my Facebook pa= ge.

Thanks and good weekend, Will and I hope to see you con= nect with us tomorrow at 2pm EST.

Best
<= br>

--0016e68fc5bb2fa2150470a64614-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 19:29:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F3083BE7F; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pPKBIB7UhcVM0LVvHuy7iAkjnf/am7OE4yAcNQymMIE=; b=QJvOvmdQHKjU0JnWLl0OXQFbMg4nKs5pisEb/+YQxOnrjvjXVlSMUxOUGU7qGHSlB6 U25KiWMyM6/JwpC+/A0zolkjmVh5vyyOOSwwlbUZKy9b3wUvhDK45eHU22akTE8ju9/5 8j6LGOMdXCw2XcOgKNM+0OfJGAPdEuJcmIEb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Gg4bRVNa8IIrRNj6SWB5Sg2lYCBNlGCWG+pwLqHuGUpg3mCtOlRR02SNJcPiKrZWeT vaPbXuq2UgnhF2AM0sWr5BS27tl5SFfhGMrKNVxeUn01IcN27262brbZEV1f5hLtSeOj uWcdFKFJUdMkLQhIVrrG78EXTr3FyVljzIFh4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:23:52 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908081223s33f8283t43c5173b2562fbb6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: apologies for the double send From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b0d90c0fa70470a64b6f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:29:02 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b0d90c0fa70470a64b6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it appeared server timed out on the first... -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b0d90c0fa70470a64b6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it appeared server timed out on the first...

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--001636c5b0d90c0fa70470a64b6f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 19:41:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6D003BE7F; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=8hV1A32OgBs0IfSlMgx/wkOIdpZiUBFt+P6uUNIWse4=; b=SfbqM9t4N2JYZGL+yXgxThwoKl/KnSt3mpKDyniQieck1vkPtjPoFFs1J4B9RT6gIG fiw3TTOoa1vNy6T3HpDq91A6dCpb8gpwX8OOnO6jIgvYA9ih30iCz9n7bffEHl4YHac9 l6ATc1BQoNDgdwMxlva9w0Fr45tlaXUyYAmLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=Ir8k4d3dydwcYmx2CRINWsAjhciYHDfHzJDUCRy/1xTvymj60gmoWK/8rmXE8k1fRt hKcZVp+wDcfDvq9NF0DibL078qhihgLKz7rgSzOe/eeut7n043npxF7qdLYdXgr/pRYZ jjLHdYBYpH4fgFE4vmXJX1u6x9HfLux3fGv+k= Message-ID: <001901ca1860$72757db0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60908081223s33f8283t43c5173b2562fbb6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: apologies for the double send Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:43:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA183E.EA7A4100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:41:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA183E.EA7A4100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's ok Jim, it's a double special show! I really dig dig it when you = jam with Will Romano! I'll be there for at least most of it before work. peace out, Jeff =20 "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority it is time to = pause and reflect" ~Mark Twain http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: apologies for the double send it appeared server timed out on the first... --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA183E.EA7A4100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's ok Jim, it's a double special = show! I really=20 dig dig it when you jam with Will Romano! I'll be there for at least = most of it=20 before work.
 
peace out,
 
Jeff    =    =20
 
"Whenever you find yourself on the side = of the=20 majority it is time to pause and reflect" ~Mark Twain
 
http://themineisthemind.bl= ogspot.com/
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke<= /FONT>
http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 = 3:23=20 PM
Subject: apologies for the = double=20 send

it appeared server timed out on the first...
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA183E.EA7A4100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 21:16:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF2433BE78; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1f6852c6-3ab8-4aae-8c1e-ec6adf500ad9_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.142.227] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: Test Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:16:40 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2009 21:16:40.0405 (UTC) FILETIME=[8584B850:01CA186D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC) --_1f6852c6-3ab8-4aae-8c1e-ec6adf500ad9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm... _________________________________________________________________ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=3DPID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:e= n-US:SI_PH_software:082009= --_1f6852c6-3ab8-4aae-8c1e-ec6adf500ad9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm...
Get free photo software from Windows Live Click here. = --_1f6852c6-3ab8-4aae-8c1e-ec6adf500ad9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 21:21:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABBAB3BE77; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_878287c9-e6b2-4576-a0b3-389e232fac1b_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.142.227] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: testing, testing, is this thing on? Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:21:43 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2009 21:21:44.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AC07100:01CA186E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:21:45 +0000 (UTC) --_878287c9-e6b2-4576-a0b3-389e232fac1b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK=2C Loopers=2C -I tried to send out an e-mail earlier w/ an attached mp3 for everyone's li= stening annoyance and for some reason it does not want to go through. Perhaps=2C as in The Hitch-Hikers Guide=2C the machines now want a part in = the decision-making process... Any ideas why this might happen? J.D.Devros deafrose58=20 _________________________________________________________________ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=3D0809TL-HM= --_878287c9-e6b2-4576-a0b3-389e232fac1b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK=2C Loopers=2C
-I tried to send out an e-mail earlier w/ an attached m= p3 for everyone's listening annoyance and for some reason it does not want = to go through.
Perhaps=2C as in The Hitch-Hikers Guide=2C the machines n= ow want a part in the decision-making process...
Any ideas why this migh= t happen?
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

Get your vacation pho= tos on your phone! Click here. = --_878287c9-e6b2-4576-a0b3-389e232fac1b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 21:30:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E2B63BE77; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LnGeBei5bgoA:10 a=wJ300O0ZN5_AlaNwOY8A:9 a=27FocMqT4L_rv-QztCQA:7 a=WqD8vkb_mmVXw-T1uazrS742mYYA:4 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: testing, testing, is this thing on? Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:30:15 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:30:21 +0000 (UTC) I'm afraid the Lopers Delight list automatically rejects messages with attachments. It's always been that way since the beginning in 1996. Store your MP3 online somewhere and point folks there with a link. That's the best way to share your music. On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Jeremy devros wrote: > OK, Loopers, > -I tried to send out an e-mail earlier w/ an attached mp3 for > everyone's listening annoyance and for some reason it does not want > to go through. > Perhaps, as in The Hitch-Hikers Guide, the machines now want a part > in the decision-making process... > Any ideas why this might happen? > J.D.Devros > deafrose58 > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! Click here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 21:38:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD2893BE7E; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ccO+fI6CrOw94su3AqGGnaBKMQAALOtcHNTFLbq7P5m5C1XI51Xx74GV34dAedlciX6NLaLcDe4qAHhVxrFtZmahleUO+KzCcyOwG6Gg9g9/B1FFWo7UR0LWMrw1kFzrtz1Mulrtgm8K0PSznqgkNpL1R+F0zIpaGaMA88SaOJQ= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: I158hJIVM1mZoubfF_fZD5X.d3Lu0ZCUk.hHFCIzaM..1Zov1t15ctyJYwMiZJXg8oC87j9iF3yMfrCRFQeqLOOpbbM0w1RdkXrm73628kLAUyWJbMG5L90we2lP22BG6_P8Q0MDF7qEQwZcemp9Ph8ES4ShgMvv_q8P6tzVmnnQSV_TFgLMBn75ETJ4qGoroBT0h699Y_XHoRqgy.fbe_fBRv9FL9ljemqai..rfBTEyJk8K2GSCafDYqEbkeroqKTSUeTOpMJTiyJjG9..KXw9R0C0V7xYMXKOKtjK4OOtBs6cOHiHN0o0Cg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908081145p49d57dc3w1442b5ffd5f9d7cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60908081145p49d57dc3w1442b5ffd5f9d7cf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-877387814 Message-Id: <27195834-ED08-4E9A-A6EA-150D4A66CB65@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Virtual Gig: Jim Goodin/Will Romano - EoW - Live on uStream tomorrow Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:38:47 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <4cGZVC.A.cBC.qBffKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:38:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-877387814 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Awesome - see you tomorrow Jim - i'm on an hour later if anyone wants to watch me acoustic loop noodles http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room I love ustream Ta Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 8 Aug 2009, at 19:45, Jim Goodin wrote: > Just a reminder that as a special feature tomorrow on my uStream > series Sunday Morning at 11, my duo East of Where with drummer/ > percussionist/found sound musician Will Romano, will be live at 2pm > EST. This is a later schedule for the series due to time and > logistics tomorrow, we'll be broadcasting from Will's house in > Mastic NY. > > The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 > so please tune in. For preview of East of Where visit on My Space > http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere . > > Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, 2pm EST, > 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan. For specific to your area > please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ . > > I posted an excerpt from my last show on July 26, http:// > www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzN6ryJ_onM . Plenty of 'looping' in this > one. There is a longer segment from this in my Facebook page. > > Thanks and good weekend, Will and I hope to see you connect with us > tomorrow at 2pm EST. > > Best > > > Jim > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-1-877387814 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Awesome - see you  tomorrow Jim - i'm on an hour later if anyone = wants to watch me acoustic loop noodles http= ://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room

I love ustream

Ta

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 8 Aug 2009, = at 19:45, Jim Goodin wrote:

Just a = reminder that as a special feature tomorrow on my uStream series = Sunday Morning at 11, my duo East of Where with = drummer/percussionist/found sound musician Will Romano, will be live at = 2pm EST.  This is a later schedule for the series due to time and = logistics tomorrow, we'll be broadcasting from Will's house in Mastic = NY.

The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 = so please tune in.  For preview of East of Where visit on My Space = http://www.myspace.com/eastofw= here .

Times around the globe are... = 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, 2pm EST, 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am = Japan.  For specific to your area please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ .
=

I posted an excerpt from my last show on July = 26, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTzN6ryJ_onM . =  Plenty of 'looping' in this one.  There is a longer segment = from this in my Facebook page.

Thanks and good = weekend, Will and I hope to see you connect with us tomorrow at 2pm = EST.

Best


Jim
--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music = links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video = work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social = networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

=

= --Apple-Mail-1-877387814-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 8 23:11:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28B4E3BE7E; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=l1BgqpdgJhfwCp7T42b36ITRXuaUjfEXSCdR0uTzm5w=; b=IqR+GirRB0tEL04S+8q53h3P1bGcAmjDy7CmaSarwslI803AkuARaHaWdJVvo+NBC1 AqxQqogAnhQZZX6jZ3XngFWrOTZxV5mUDTf+w1WeYv09Ducu8ZegSeM60HVxk1JIltpL 89nDA9ZmDET1j3x56MeSiaewvB0RvEznwc7N4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XmBaBY7greDPpi12VYJS7N9FzEzquVhVU9xil2RHaaozMgB6+q8aETzoUauzdURl0x PcO7NWEhjxIGTsJTePLAtXB0N4HjFGHPSI3Y9/zcN2cD0K8WqaI2kxdlScc6daXKtx3P Yl8KVARgdX2Hrl2wTEwgJEg15XESynlPUs6gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <014001ca16d8$97459ff0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A7BEAB5.8020008@het.it> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:11:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: livelooping in antwerp From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <13gur.A.gTF.3YgfKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:11:52 +0000 (UTC) finally is here... hoorraaaaa.... > 2009/8/8, Raul Bonell : >> thanks for sharing michael! ... on the couch waiting for the video to >> loads >> up. >> >> 2009/8/7, Massimo Liverani : >>> Fantastic! >>> greetings from florence! >>> >>> Massimo >>> >>> Michael Peters ha scritto: >>>> http://www.vimeo.com/5977639 >>>> -michael >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 01:48:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8FE63BE78; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YCkSHYSxhD/TYwrK1/+zZfT8yoLMN6hSK7enLUUrR20=; b=C9Ui1JyH4OURywXF3PXrufvKbP3N6xRWiBhCtgFTuXHKoQJtvxs/v5rdoWcE5MD+Nb Aq9whdPtKf+0QcMipsOcpruE/tKTPTP2ke0wGFTQrmikBITUaSECOb1FD+FJMp/jQldB kzzrQm+mtgJFsRtn1CYON0LeBHFQc8NB3rz04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oWDsUQterJ7qvKmndG5VsBf/KypAEMHiY65poa+cZQM1VjPsJ+oSUTbinVS4gROr8G boTCoBsZLR5wdlghqxUF8CJZljljOGZeKepYjW+Cege2HAcsFKt7mpGRjYddDRIFxfU9 EPMKwYqGL0NnPXYQDZ/0r/CyS+qIr29RbaiSQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A7A30C4.3060407@mhorse.com> References: <750408.69360.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908040851v7f0f2d0dtd6149dff37d490b7@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30908051807l1e409abeq3340691359eb5608@mail.gmail.com> <4A7A30C4.3060407@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:48:15 -0700 Message-ID: <333287c30908081848j5514392dj6b9f57851c40657e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anti-looper bigots From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be732b9683f0470aba98e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:48:18 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be732b9683f0470aba98e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You best have the ready when you're coming through in September... I'll be sure to yell freebird! ;) -nn happyhumans.org On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > That's a brilliant idea..!..I think I'm going to put the first minute on a > microcassette and then Dictaphone it into oblivion when the need arises. > > rubbing hands together, > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > I was having a conversation the other day about making a circuit bent >> synth/sampler that had a "freebird" button. ie somebody yells it, you hit >> the "freebird button", stun them for a second... >> >> And then, fuck it the hell up. Sample/resample/glitch/sequence and give >> them something new. >> >> -nn >> happyhumans.org >> > > --0015174be732b9683f0470aba98e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You best have the ready when you're coming through in September... I= 9;ll be sure to yell freebird! ;)

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Wed, Aug 5= , 2009 at 6:24 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
That's a bril= liant idea..!..I think I'm going to put the first minute on a microcass= ette and then Dictaphone it into oblivion when the need arises.

rubbing hands together,


Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com

I was having a conversation the other day about making a circuit bent synth= /sampler that had a "freebird" button. =A0ie somebody yells it, y= ou hit the "freebird button", stun them for a second...

And then, fuck it the hell up. =A0Sample/resample/glitch/sequence and give = them something new.

-nn
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--0015174be732b9683f0470aba98e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 02:36:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E418F3BE78; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 02:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=81y9pNb1cabDxE5N+fOOVSx4lnJlo9mB4GnlzHgmz58=; b=sbyzOmZUEQ5XsXDVaZcqyJspKYU52N87hSVdV83bC2w+ifIz65TV+d1hH6GU52KiZJ SU1b7Kz75ifcWTs5BfpSq02F/vfVWWdFq7qxscKUAPQxxdXulDoXfrnBJV+Qps2HilV/ yfxfudFjK7o5ZUNbbXUnE8+5ZYGrsK3PipxOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OwLri0DtpudWVMDDPOLcnPK5WWcPWB2vLXnhIstGsbJAcvOTEN9Hvv9rHvkMCxoVN1 BP4FQEC9FJ4nTZtST1SYGkqub/qD3J+ZRSsKxy4tuXwKKNx2yLryJCaDTK+CFqTQ/4nG 44J5LH1tmzTYiyDbhmq8brZDvkVnM0t5r9ies= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <014001ca16d8$97459ff0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A7BEAB5.8020008@het.it> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:36:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: livelooping in antwerp From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 02:36:13 +0000 (UTC) loved that starting chord progression the first time i listened to the audio files days before ... it's pure veloopityism! ... nice timbral mixture in the first 7 min. i liked the video composition with still images. this music works with visuals from big spaces. certainly, you achieved a really good sound overall, and it looks the nanokontrol is doing realtime mixing easy, at a glance. i should get one $-). i wonder what kind (if any) of comp/limit you use for the master chain. is there any "loopwindowing" around minute 9, where those granny arpeggios are modified later... ? is it possible michael, to do the *old* edp trick with the plugin too? ... past 12'30'', nice harmonizer settings. do you use downwards pitches too?. and what about distortion? did you get that from the gt-5? or is a plugin? ... i never found (or was able to program) those timbres in my little brother gt-3. now trying to rely on the built in mainstage disto plugs, that work ok for overdrive, but no so well with heavy powerful distortions ... the dist loop rocks! it remembered vernon reid's, and yeah! i see you're a fast tapper, not like me. at the end i could see all those toys and gadgets in action. minute 20. noise, glitch, but all through the guitar pickups. i don't know why, but i prefer this approach better than triggering samples or using a mic to feed the loops. more experimental. better results. i'd like to know your thoughts about. minute 24. i've been tempted to downwrite this little wonder guitar miniature. beautiful. each time michael presents any new music i'm very excited to listen to it because after/while doing it he pass on me some strange energy that makes me want to go play and create my own... hats off !!, ra=FCl. 2009/8/9, Raul Bonell : > finally is here... hoorraaaaa.... > >> 2009/8/8, Raul Bonell : >>> thanks for sharing michael! ... on the couch waiting for the video to >>> loads >>> up. >>> >>> 2009/8/7, Massimo Liverani : >>>> Fantastic! >>>> greetings from florence! >>>> >>>> Massimo >>>> >>>> Michael Peters ha scritto: >>>>> http://www.vimeo.com/5977639 >>>>> -michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 02:54:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F8B33BE77; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 02:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mqY/yxRAiF/fDu5DnxzlYnAVl2OA3e8i8JbfzcMi1ws=; b=OB+e3EPH4Cum3gUf2n8gIRNkBreGw1k4xBPCrczwOGA6kdU86F3q591vK7eTQMR9+d 77csf7NqMvvzsOVRwoHzdgND2X8CLMtPha3F+UxmSaEmmv2mJQYNLTU+xCOdZA3bC0IJ W8CxKMNr+mpP3jodDFusNWKPLo8ZHQRakwFrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TP8+WmsfQ7SqvT7PLzcisQT2hZg2E7HBtnKgYK6GgknKc4h14fyA6pIwh/HeMLtLeU xOKyQYznZ5WL5qNzglLWMMbfCLMxB8onjk6RiQkU+zFuJz3gpgNfhGEWI4MtCOC8ae6b s+l5F1c0v8tu55eaBtqGjoQHAj6locmeePhQs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:54:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: mainstage 2 loopback From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 02:54:10 +0000 (UTC) i've been playing around this past night with logic's mainstage 2 onboard looper and found it quite illogical :-) ... lots of unuseful hidden parameters, no feedback, you can just mimic that with the fade out function, up to 20 sec. to reach silence. no multiply. no half/double speed. it does reverse though. how the hell do you change loop length once stablished? unloading the plugin? ... it's not what i'd call, a decent looper. back to mobius, which it's more fun! -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 04:35:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A84DF3BE77; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NLcAJhGTjaM6cQuUZDFjYEIyQlRSCqx6Z7gIhM5KS1o=; b=t2hZ0wwrvG55RgcmfQDrk5Lqxz4lGCT924MxGAmZFF55b32ceuKQjQnFQyv4o/J7PR JwEpQ3obBFmYF6pDiLQCu6e3wqm90HA0JL0Iveh2XWOxioKgHQTkMbWv/rKM4g6unmg/ O6+hQwv+d0Rp4zbtTNn0rhhb6P+OJMD82Slbk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E8PIsB9KB3xAHdvipjEAa9QHk90f1iEp40yYv9M5QJOVv89hZjcvBGj7+Ids7gYtrz k7padkYNzMe0e61jr6PukKRm0Cf6KVFXAb2ZPfVYyHO2YMXKZYZWGhSWCoNqEBCC3duF V8BWZzCx58mbML9mls2G5g3CScDSTTJF3zT+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001901ca1860$72757db0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60908081223s33f8283t43c5173b2562fbb6@mail.gmail.com> <001901ca1860$72757db0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:35:51 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908082135s2c7aca75v1c6b6a30fe0b7030@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: apologies for the double send From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d36e8d0c36ba0470ae01af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:35:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d36e8d0c36ba0470ae01af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thx Jeff appreciated... On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > That's ok Jim, it's a double special show! I really dig dig it when you > jam with Will Romano! I'll be there for at least most of it before work. > > peace out, > > Jeff > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority it is time to pause > and reflect" ~Mark Twain > > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2009 3:23 PM > *Subject:* apologies for the double send > > it appeared server timed out on the first... > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016e6d36e8d0c36ba0470ae01af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thx Jeff appreciated...

On Sat, Aug 8, 20= 09 at 3:43 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
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--0016e6d36e8d0c36ba0470ae01af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 04:38:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DF0C3BE81; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XeA8t8bl/f87zc95rHcgSQ7LqUnvwRBzebKc1QzyW7E=; b=UvVli97DcVPtVTCgVbTcdV0sU9+aUW/R+d5rJVKFc7q34LwYDEMWTV6Wxg1oqBoQUE GgyqrfFQ4lak4RiyRWoDPsnOAh0I001bBxUQVVyvjOvyU2GUiwHUz+36oZRrXZvK7D6M BlBimn1gWbPaQem8r7oSWLfdLU5IR/yitI5hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fv4SJnDHY92jhGDyUvToyI9YvP9O9ppIAW6bvxVqn+6IXlj8Bgn/SV5OCJyhyC3HN6 kEyGRcz+DgObY9QxDyn5MWgsXys0fRU9XRqiTbsFSNM5/RJtXeBlR+pRBhemZ+P75cwt 0kpOGzwEoYKk46mwc3FWiyIqkaVQBNo1jcBLI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <27195834-ED08-4E9A-A6EA-150D4A66CB65@btinternet.com> References: <9e0440a60908081145p49d57dc3w1442b5ffd5f9d7cf@mail.gmail.com> <27195834-ED08-4E9A-A6EA-150D4A66CB65@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:38:06 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908082138h69b9abb0t3f728c455973ac21@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Gig: Jim Goodin/Will Romano - EoW - Live on uStream tomorrow From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e2bc927823d0470ae09bc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:38:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e2bc927823d0470ae09bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt thanks - we'll warm up the crowd for ya (grins!) thanks for leading the way on uStream. See you later today. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Awesome - see you tomorrow Jim - i'm on an hour later if anyone wants to > watch me acoustic loop noodles > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room > I love ustream > > Ta > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 8 Aug 2009, at 19:45, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Just a reminder that as a special feature tomorrow on my uStream series *Sunday > Morning at 11*, my duo East of Where with drummer/percussionist/found > sound musician Will Romano, will be live at 2pm EST. This is a later > schedule for the series due to time and logistics tomorrow, we'll be > broadcasting from Will's house in Mastic NY. > The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 so > please tune in. For preview of East of Where visit on My Space > http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere . > > Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, 2pm EST, 7pm UK, > 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan. For specific to your area please check at > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ . > > I posted an excerpt from my last show on July 26, > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzN6ryJ_onM . Plenty of 'looping' in this > one. There is a longer segment from this in my Facebook page. > > Thanks and good weekend, Will and I hope to see you connect with us > tomorrow at 2pm EST. > > Best > > > Jim > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016368e2bc927823d0470ae09bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt thanks - we'll warm up the crowd for ya (grins!) =A0thanks for lea= ding the way on uStream. =A0See you later today.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Matt Stevens <= mattstevensguitar@btint= ernet.com> wrote:
Awesome - see you =A0tomorrow Jim - i'm on an hour later if anyone want= s to watch me acoustic loop noodles=A0http://www.ustream.tv= /channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room

I love ustream

Ta


On 8 Aug 2009, at 19:45, Jim Goodin wrote:
Just a reminder that as a special feature tomorr= ow on my uStream series Sunday Morning at 11, my duo East of Where w= ith drummer/percussionist/found sound musician Will Romano, will be live at= 2pm EST. =A0This is a later schedule for the series due to time and logist= ics tomorrow, we'll be broadcasting from Will's house in Mastic NY.=

The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday= -morning-at-11 so please tune in. =A0For preview of East of Where visit= on My Space http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere=A0.

Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm = CST, 2pm EST, 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan. =A0For specific to you= r area please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/=A0.

I posted an excerpt from my last show on July 26,=A0ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTzN6ryJ_onM=A0. =A0Plenty of 'loopin= g' in this one. =A0There is a longer segment from this in my Facebook p= age.

Thanks and good weekend, Will and I hope to see you co= nnect with us tomorrow at 2pm EST.

Best
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--0016368e2bc927823d0470ae09bc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 05:14:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EDA73BE73; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: Subject: RE: livelooping in antwerp Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:14:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1540F8EDA73943EE8D84BF152B212107@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoYrAKOZ/TBp9DASVK6wlZCkTc3GwAAnjzg In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Michael, that was fantastic from beginning to end, The hand fan on the strings sounded like a bowed psaltery, great use of noise and sound design. Tasty chord voicing's and two hand tapping. You released your inner shredder... What's the interface for your midi pickup? Very inspired and inspiring. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Raul Bonell [mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: livelooping in antwerp finally is here... hoorraaaaa.... > 2009/8/8, Raul Bonell : >> thanks for sharing michael! ... on the couch waiting for the video to >> loads >> up. >> >> 2009/8/7, Massimo Liverani : >>> Fantastic! >>> greetings from florence! >>> >>> Massimo >>> >>> Michael Peters ha scritto: >>>> http://www.vimeo.com/5977639 >>>> -michael >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 07:34:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 080193BE73; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: livelooping in antwerp Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:34:30 +0200 Message-ID: <003b01ca18c3$d58e90e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcoYurhOjNIaCaP7RdqQcNAFfTc3swABdWpw X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.248; VDF: 7.1.5.85) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:34:32 +0000 (UTC) thanks Raul and Bill and everyone for the nice comments, it really means a lot to me to get feedback like that, I'm usually not very confident about what I do on stage, especially because I consciously leave so much room for not-planning/not-knowing so that spontaneous things can happen, not all of them very successfully. > Tasty chord voicing's and two hand tapping. You released your inner shredder... oh, that has been released for a long time :-) btw it's not two hand tapping as such - I can't really do that very well (should take some lessons from Markus Reuter). I right-hand-tap with the pick just like Frank Zappa did - stole that technique from him a long time ago. With the pick, the tapping of the right hand gets very exact and powerful but it's not the same thing as using the naked fingers to tap - it is like someone who types on a typewriter with two fingers very fast, instead of using all fingers :-) > What's the interface for your midi pickup? Axon AX-66 > it looks the nanokontrol is doing realtime mixing easy, at a glance. i should get one $-). yes, get one - it is the best hardware I've bought for a while and if you're on a notebook with a complex setup (like my Bidule setup) it is the best way to control it. And it is small and cheap! > wonder what kind (if any) of comp/limit you use for the master chain. I use an old version of Guitar Rig for the clean and distorted sounds, and the clean sound has a compressor. > is there any "loopwindowing" around minute 9, where those granny > arpeggios are modified later... ? is it possible michael, to do the > *old* edp trick with the plugin too? I'm not sure what I did but yes, I think the LoopV software can do what the EDP could do, and more (such as continuous speed control). Don't know if Matthias and Andy are still putting lots of effort into the development of this, now that Matthias is a father ... > ... past 12'30'', nice harmonizer settings. do you use downwards pitches too? I think this is a combined midi instrument, probably one of the Indian ones from Swarshala that I love so much > and what about distortion? did you get that from the gt-5? or is a plugin? Guitar Rig. No more pedals. Too heavy. I'm too old :-) > all through the guitar pickups. i don't know why, but i prefer this > approach better than triggering samples or using a mic to feed the > loops. more experimental. better results. it is more direct somehow, yes > minute 24. i've been tempted to downwrite this little wonder guitar miniature. beautiful. it is called "Essex Dusk" and is dedicated to a wonderful woman and to England in general. (nuff said :-) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 09:30:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F218D3BE73; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=i3BUjKOueXwna3vdEluDWsFwZhv46Ks1CLWmMQmFCyg=; b=iAfWwDH/zGaGFkKHMKkCi9pBclA7fLKwzCbp91pYC2oKCLPIIE5amSjtflw4SmdHyr NLplLhs75TqcO7kEMhAaEbgasJKPH0SxlNEcUb3EMjSg0YZOM1gMOrKXb7oMklch0PsT MSY/04v7qK0rbydG0L22zOEYEQXRA55MNww6U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U2Um5FYVGWNwgLFm+so5R756r9T2GCUlofe3PSlxrdLjLAysSfN3uv82deXPh6OKvk 2YoOvctwFVpCSJ+fT21rZE3LCes5cWUqtfr0/GHHKFljFDnIme7OFi4nxp3QRy04BPma A4idGMfH/ixeobUKoIE2Ovy8x+Ss5aHbZCZes= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:30:03 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908090230n5e21246dg574c24464640bbe0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mainstage 2 loopback From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:30:03 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i've been playing around this past night with logic's mainstage 2 > onboard looper and found it quite illogical :-) ... lots of unuseful > hidden parameters, no feedback, you can just mimic that with the fade > out function, up to 20 sec. to reach silence. no multiply. no > half/double speed. it does reverse though. how the hell do you change > loop length once stablished? unloading the plugin? ... it's not what > i'd call, a decent looper. > > back to mobius, which it's more fun! You just can't compare Loopback and Mobius! :-)) Good to hear I'm not the only one that dislikes Loopback. Of the new plug-ins in Mainstage 2 I think Playback will be more popular. Thinking about all those loopists that want to spin in drum tracks behind their livelooping. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 14:40:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 857CD3BE7C; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FKjvMUxkAjmBiAjK0pES3dQyNqILZspSbrgVfAVWX10=; b=iIkRO8ELN+4c378kmC7gd+Pnyi/n5n/qOizYsCPw67wNNkNddYIjflZ7ycNRQcqWYH M8JdTRZEdpXaeZNI7sUJrSpZLnF3Hn/rYDLmI7yGgXQorEvXAI4kobNMoScVYEG8p/pP 19CoFeaE9RX0K929HHD/VCKqCeBMkYdsGTZho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d0q7/AMcU24j1Ov4g2iiih1gz5AyxpZTj9VA3AkV5f3SD3W7gOGIrRCBUwJFo6CsNs GGFsmxpLOic6otsMVRJCp/cWVe7uXUeKawF9F/29bL01OfBL9gBlu99uZLXltLfHBPGR HXO57T9nrTTRdDjfxWMRHe6+RJsd4c2N2Wo8Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003b01ca18c3$d58e90e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <003b01ca18c3$d58e90e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:40:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: livelooping in antwerp From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <6skWED.A.6hF.R_tfKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:40:17 +0000 (UTC) 2009/8/9, Michael Peters : > I'm usually not very confident about > what I do on stage, especially because I consciously leave so much room f= or > not-planning/not-knowing so that spontaneous things can happen, not all o= f > them very successfully. this time, you suceeded the challenge. it worked as a whole too, as bill pointed out. >> Tasty chord voicing's and two hand tapping. You released your inner > shredder... > it is like someone who types on a > typewriter with two fingers very fast, instead of using all fingers :-) funny analogy. i can see the advantage of this technique for tapping fast sequences when playing sat. with the two handed method, the big guitars swing. >> wonder what kind (if any) of comp/limit you use for the master chain. > > I use an old version of Guitar Rig for the clean and distorted sounds, an= d > the clean sound has a compressor. i supose you did not upgrade for cpu efficiency, although you got a very good sound with it, it seemed to me when playing around with gr3, that it sounded better than older versions, specially distortions. also the hi=B7q, or oversampling, improved the sound drastically, of course at the expense of more cpu cycles. >> is there any "loopwindowing" around minute 9, where those granny >> arpeggios are modified later... ? is it possible michael, to do the >> *old* edp trick with the plugin too? > > I'm not sure what I did but yes, I think the LoopV software can do what t= he > EDP could do, and more (such as continuous speed control). Don't know if > Matthias and Andy are still putting lots of effort into the development o= f > this, now that Matthias is a father ... ... i hope it gets released any time in the future. by continuous speed control, you mean, the varispeed thing, affecting tempi and pitch at the same time, a la augustus loop? i just got the ehx hazarai delay just for this, since mobius can't. > I'm too old :-) well. the music doesn't reflect this. more the opposite :-) > it is called "Essex Dusk" and is dedicated to a wonderful woman and to > England in general. (nuff said :-) i bet her name beggins with "E"? congrats michael. --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 18:48:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F8823BE78; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=3HctrOXXSpvhaQs2ulovy3NoAsrzfp13yvyPtY2pNh04J6ZqrW5lo+0Y+G2+FbrkQHn0TViFuyj5bnHKL1NFtagGbNkpvs7WTa3RmAWTaCYvU6aeBQHDdfonZnhbopY/IunkL+4vRUUZ9wvU5F5q7JgHwYo/Xg2rm1yQSXvj4HQ= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: 1WpJEXkVM1kfTi7WNE9HE.PtZWWic2HDfVfw7mtLdFvYIbB9duL5079pExJfc.unIOJiIgn36vwiUzC5lPp75ZGcvvE_0pPULTAbBfpm7X9jm6yOBsGlN8K6fGULvQf8rgAi0Rp3aCTa55ltbfbGQlpjkvCYCd39g95nAgWsYsY94pXNrcc0sqAM6TDBkOh7i1UH9fax.UlQvIpm_MiXYrWCAsIGsf1ju6rYZ4MMpCiUy0n6sQzMnik.3RY3VEnzMFLBvOPFdgUMD4fm0I.Ay_XgnX9lVS0NPs8lzM7gDUMZEg36YVwrqtrFlXJTEyr_1bHplaitEu8ICI9KHw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908082138h69b9abb0t3f728c455973ac21@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60908081145p49d57dc3w1442b5ffd5f9d7cf@mail.gmail.com> <27195834-ED08-4E9A-A6EA-150D4A66CB65@btinternet.com> <9e0440a60908082138h69b9abb0t3f728c455973ac21@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-953589981 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Virtual Gig: Jim Goodin/Will Romano - EoW - Live on uStream tomorrow Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:48:49 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:48:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-953589981 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Jim sounds amazing - sorry i was late - wonderful with those percussion sounds - i'm on in 10mins mate Playing live on ustream in 15 minutes time http://bit.ly/bTHIh to watch - ta Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 9 Aug 2009, at 05:38, Jim Goodin wrote: > Matt thanks - we'll warm up the crowd for ya (grins!) thanks for > leading the way on uStream. See you later today. > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > Awesome - see you tomorrow Jim - i'm on an hour later if anyone > wants to watch me acoustic loop noodles http://www.ustream.tv/ > channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room > > I love ustream > > Ta > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 8 Aug 2009, at 19:45, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> Just a reminder that as a special feature tomorrow on my uStream >> series Sunday Morning at 11, my duo East of Where with drummer/ >> percussionist/found sound musician Will Romano, will be live at >> 2pm EST. This is a later schedule for the series due to time and >> logistics tomorrow, we'll be broadcasting from Will's house in >> Mastic NY. >> >> The show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning- >> at-11 so please tune in. For preview of East of Where visit on My >> Space http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere . >> >> Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, 1pm CST, 2pm >> EST, 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan. For specific to your >> area please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ . >> >> I posted an excerpt from my last show on July 26, http:// >> www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzN6ryJ_onM . Plenty of 'looping' in this >> one. There is a longer segment from this in my Facebook page. >> >> Thanks and good weekend, Will and I hope to see you connect with >> us tomorrow at 2pm EST. >> >> Best >> >> >> Jim >> -- >> ReUse, an introspective textural aural >> www.myspace.com/CtReUse >> >> music links... >> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >> www.myspace.com/jindream >> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic >> >> video work/editing... >> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >> >> social networking... >> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-1-953589981 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Jim sounds amazing - sorry i was late  - wonderful with those = percussion sounds - i'm on in 10mins mate 

Playing live = on ustream in 15 minutes time http://bit.ly/bTHIh to watch - = ta

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 9 Aug 2009, = at 05:38, Jim Goodin wrote:

Matt = thanks - we'll warm up the crowd for ya (grins!)  thanks for = leading the way on uStream.  See you later today.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com> wrote:
Awesome - = see you  tomorrow Jim - i'm on an hour later if anyone wants to = watch me acoustic loop noodles http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-= Room

I love = ustream

Ta


On 8 Aug 2009, at 19:45, Jim Goodin = wrote:

Just a reminder that as a = special feature tomorrow on my uStream series Sunday Morning at = 11, my duo East of Where with drummer/percussionist/found sound = musician Will Romano, will be live at 2pm EST.  This is a later = schedule for the series due to time and logistics tomorrow, we'll be = broadcasting from Will's house in Mastic NY.

The = show link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 = so please tune in.  For preview of East of Where visit on My Space = http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere .
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Times around the globe are... 11am PST, 12pm MST, = 1pm CST, 2pm EST, 7pm UK, 8pm western Europe, 3am Japan.  For = specific to your area please check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ .
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I posted an excerpt from my last show on July = 26, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTzN6ryJ_onM . =  Plenty of 'looping' in this one.  There is a longer segment = from this in my Facebook page.

Thanks and good = weekend, Will and I hope to see you connect with us tomorrow at 2pm = EST.

Best


Jim
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music = links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video = work/editing...
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social = networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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= --Apple-Mail-1-953589981-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 9 22:08:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F2B03BE7C; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lt85aUzLTu0d9cTw7DVxNaVqbHUXhG+c4BX3GPB7iM8=; b=Qy51kwDqctgBABxxsJMjUTaXdEXv/swwE1IWasWvk03T0lDAAEqbb/pZS/7MKhwuLB zR+Zvm4gNasNh29weqF1NO6Ha8bOo7rBgDyB/hx0AI/b3mSYE3upl3LxEm1vSgKFZoie ispNIcOOxZ47qh4ZWBOOO46EsBD+QrOVjsCDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EYxkZguQYVrGR7UxSpZ9hFvG16ns46+6J9bnRpP/PsmkBm5pd1zlUV2ie69GJs8xpj NDxGzwripIKHJRys38Y4Rx/ebq49/s8RTM1B3sdLhkk4wcDQxhQchXnD90/4GCNURkiL K4EjlbD+RAdANPBHyZ9GVgNYWvg/EkAHPMnyA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <003b01ca18c3$d58e90e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:08:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5cd9a2d5535c0b4c Message-ID: <101191640908091508n21509132o2ffdd1e847a78354@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: livelooping in antwerp From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:08:27 +0000 (UTC) I really enjoyed the development all the way through. I especially liked the way you brought it to a close with a real sense of coming in for a slow, graceful landing. Warren warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 10 16:13:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B5AD3BE79; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:13:12 -0500 Subject: Groovy iPhone/iTouch app Thread-Topic: Groovy iPhone/iTouch app Thread-Index: AcoZ1XXUDCwGI8M/QeKf+sTzgLJu4w== Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE350F579@barq.sailpoint.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AB76 A+OV BJzh CD3p Cehe DDVl DaPh Dfgw EQ2Y E7fi FJmM FsR/ F1Pd GVhA GrOF KAes;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{7D6FC9B3-342A-47EB-843C-F14E2A0DAE24};agBlAGYAZgAuAGwAYQByAHMAbwBuAEAAcwBhAGkAbABwAG8AaQBuAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=;Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:13:12 GMT;RwByAG8AbwB2AHkAIABpAFAAaABvAG4AZQAvAGkAVABvAHUAYwBoACAAYQBwAHAA x-cr-puzzleid: {7D6FC9B3-342A-47EB-843C-F14E2A0DAE24} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:13:40 +0000 (UTC) For all you trendoids with iPhones, there is an interesting new pattern sequencer.=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5usPtRhbyBA http://amidio.com/index.php/iphone-music-apps/jr-hexatone-pro Get your geek on! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 10 16:45:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A32D23BE79; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IbWwUZh6zFCn6oqx65gAy2Dayn4TZSXWCYghbEQxTN4=; b=Y8RQMjatjQKNulYZBcVEV/nyYhcbJ9K5cu6iVzG6Jv5JUu65q5l8/YCkCDf1G4VGa8 pKoos9tUcMO6AEC7wD+uyG29Rk3+6lxqmO2zvJKLbD0FQN8v3U2E4Yt+dBY2w3YMuKsF 3wCIYo3Nk2FeT+jdaOge/ynWIeztb/sg5tUtM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kNf/o88bkpQ+iPisYDe+ebu6QnHadGSkSimqv42f7coLwRvs9adQ8xZYUM3I9hKYe2 UNZwaPZ9Ib7bVKOakJacrFHoTR7GQVyQKyPU9Ihp1vFoYN3qC8aHdvCIfUPrkB9WonaX +S6NFJvQXbEsl1gNMGrziZuh1awNLl48ifkaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE350F579@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE350F579@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:45:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908100945h6ee7931fp46f503a9d5752ed8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Groovy iPhone/iTouch app From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3ambUD.A.LaG.T6EgKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:45:07 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > For all you trendoids with iPhones, there is an interesting new > pattern sequencer. > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5usPtRhbyBA > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://amidio.com/index.php/iphone-music-apps/jr-hexatone-pr= o > I'm hearing the Hexatone also works on an iPod Touch. But there is information lacking on the web site and in Jordan's presentation that makes it hard to decide how useful it can be. For example he says one can "export files" without explaining what kind of files. I would find MIDI file export very creative but unfortunately I assume the tech info note "16Bit, 44.1 kHz .WAV / .CAF export" means you can only export a long audio file of the piece. Especially for percussion I think 24 bit samples sound a lot better than 16 bit (I was amazed do find out, but that's the sounding reality one has to except). It would be great to use it on an iPod Touch (escaping the costly iPhone account subscription) if you could just export the playback data information to drive synths and samplers elsewhere. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 10 17:13:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C40963BE7E; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:13:34 -0500 Subject: RE: Groovy iPhone/iTouch app Thread-Topic: Groovy iPhone/iTouch app Thread-Index: AcoZ2ey3gW6O4ryTTLa66y80D5RsBQAArMAQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE350F5D4@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE350F579@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0908100945h6ee7931fp46f503a9d5752ed8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908100945h6ee7931fp46f503a9d5752ed8@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:13:38 +0000 (UTC) DQo+IEknbSBoZWFyaW5nIHRoZSBIZXhhdG9uZSBhbHNvIHdvcmtzIG9uIGFuIGlQb2QgVG91Y2gu IA0KDQpZZXMsIEknbSBwcmV0dHkgc3VyZSBpdCB3b3JrcyBvbiB0aGUgaVRvdWNoLiAgSSBoYXZl IG9uZQ0Kb2YgdGhlaXIgb3RoZXIgcHJvZHVjdHMsIE5vaXNlLmlvLCBydW5uaW5nIG9uIG15IGlU b3VjaC4NCg0KPiBGb3IgZXhhbXBsZSBoZSBzYXlzIG9uZSBjYW4gImV4cG9ydCBmaWxlcyIgd2l0 aG91dCBleHBsYWluaW5nIHdoYXQNCj4ga2luZCBvZiBmaWxlcy4gSSB3b3VsZCBmaW5kIE1JREkg ZmlsZSBleHBvcnQgdmVyeSBjcmVhdGl2ZQ0KDQpJIHRoaW5rIGV4cG9ydCBpcyBhdWRpbywgbm90 IE1JREkuICBUaGF0J3MgdW5mb3J0dW5hdGUsIGl0IHdvdWxkDQpiZSBuaWNlIHRvIHVzZSB0aGlz IGp1c3QgYXMgYSB0cmlnZ2VyaW5nIGRldmljZSByYXRoZXIgdGhhbiANCmEgc291bmQgZ2VuZXJh dG9yLiAgSSdsbCBwcm9iYWJseSBkb3dubG9hZCBpdCB0aGlzIHdlZWsgYW5kDQpzZWUgd2hhdCBp dCBjYW4gZG8uDQoNCkplZmYNCg0K From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 13:14:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA2643BE78; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 480 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:14:53 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=uHk7pI/M9W22tv+CLv7IFKmuGoaPfvs5kor0dopGdrc=; b=hpMzqTxJaoqtfAQqY56dt+97y+QUu1/RepAjkfv5RMF/bC0GYP+kzxqhlgUkCyX/cM OnoDdocT/bgCBVxC6LP4hNPyaeNR6wdiu3Ktc/DgFfvTtx+0pz6JTTVP2o91ea1fD3da nUy2zUjsCV2sl/MHHc7t/gFtDBddmQKagG8Z4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UeTaAt2w1O8XUtX6tdobJJ9v4nfFyO8OycO+C10F9Q43xS0HjZQiUp+GAX/ERnhPt6 iYLDEzmVC55jnh5+XwaICwJ2E+s9QknXi7eB8iyYuD34ybiMizxyzZe2VroXDCdk9idI vxZEzf89QqHW2oeLOrkXKHsXbOz+7l8w/aEnk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:06:51 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6495c353de30470dd600a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:14:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d6495c353de30470dd600a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello guys! I would like to present to you yet another looping software, but at the same time a new (old) approach to it. http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=software&t=tapeloops The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play a sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix. Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play function and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automatically too. What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the tape loops situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) and all you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired distance), and of course, what to record on those loops. At the same time, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, the audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented by a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit to the amount of opened loops (but your computer memory). Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app interesting and useful. Louigi Verona. ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening inside as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and many other functions which are not technically possible in this implementation) --0016e6d6495c353de30470dd600a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello guys!
I would like to present to you yet another looping software,= but at the same time a new (old) approach to it.

ht= tp://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dsoftware&t=3Dtapeloop= s

The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play = a sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it
w= orks is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent = - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix.
Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play func= tion and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automatically
t= oo.
What's good about this software is that it basically emulates th= e tape loops situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manu= ally) and all
you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks a= nd one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired
di= stance), and of course, what to record on those loops.

At the same t= ime, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, the audience can see= exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented by
a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit t= o the amount of opened loops (but your computer memory).

Anyway, I d= o think that a lot of you might find this app interesting and useful.

Louigi Verona.

ps: I do plan to make a second version with one a= pp and loops opening inside as small windows. it would allow for easy synch= ronization and many
other functions which are not technically possible i= n this implementation)
--0016e6d6495c353de30470dd600a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 15:12:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 307AD3BE73; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.no; s=s1024; t=1250003574; bh=5mGx3DfQk0W+DgWY6WtCEer32nUV69hP74h/zec3Mto=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y+oeveNebmOglQyiw0ceNyjWAyT98Uz5evEWObNSErxFi/1FxRizYk4IBDYdDILC9VYLdoA0IW2Vn5fInuLlGWTEgWB9+XjpWp2WJC+nNAueACfHPlfdOSFH8ARVJp4xG2tEKmzdPZAKauXhfZ9do36r2ucsCa9y3aS8MRVG1KA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tljU2VRD+no+o+ztFonJIB3hf53OtrryKh5JANr7QRRn+Ob/d0AWFSegHWZFsG7R03wU+G5oKl6rPi1BNsTDedGIaf7bLOiij9SjTww7MUfBj5qbb3RncmLuAl7g43M4okjEAZxLWNBTcyzYlZ89BIEVUy8RiLYbtwttmd/fyIQ=; Message-ID: <677884.3143.qm@web23806.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KyUugUsVM1ns22eJemOB38.uDmkygjBFktPIbMRljjhmgGqZ4O4G5fqq6G9ZpLDsuPbma6qxH7Y3idK5LNsYVePDSBAwCCIl2jiTTd35ZUPm1hPqx7wyx5lC4NTg2QIAY6ZYkMBnpQsSJY4z10Xp3Phc10dmoUZMEZbTB7ZE8KH7aWU9ZPHro7MUVOTuSZaoy13XctAtUdfBV_EBgNYu2TMDBsQy8VnWtXt2YJ9DK.UC1cAA5fL9GmvPLNs1zHDvEOTodseu9A.0Yk4UiH.qleAr2bdwk8YHsbIxq3Em644szFiZlQpAl2S8TeGg4obXWHP8wlPP0kSbXwjU1MAbjQ9GnDEJ4npKZTAJqjFzLIkBDuvea44G4uQ2iw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:12:54 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Subject: OT - extracting material from CDs To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2121540137-1250003574=:3143" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) --0-2121540137-1250003574=:3143 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ! I want to extract materials from cds, grooves - vocals etc. I uses Ableton.= I have used abletons phase-plugin - but I am not happy jet. Can anyone rec= ommand a (free) plug for this work - or maby some good technique for this? best Rune F. =A0=0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________= _____________=0AAlt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender o= g=0Anotisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com --0-2121540137-1250003574=:3143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I want to extract mat= erials from cds, grooves - vocals etc. I uses Ableton. I have used abletons= phase-plugin - but I am not happy jet. Can anyone recommand a (free) plug = for this work - or maby some good technique for this?

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--0-2121540137-1250003574=:3143-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 15:27:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D46F3BE73; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 382 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:27:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C653ItdY+zj4vHzVBOG07hYhD5aK9i3PnXoq5iZUV4c=; b=K6YOYD6V4OtkxNVdA7nsRdp8Peg20Oa6CvjIpE9qHZE9cRgse3b1WRAYyayA/l/M+2 ve/jc2QeVNVjF1xuZDrnKiQ6+OVp8bmPpXsplZlsVNheEaujahY//WMl5IkX2twdFDI/ 8H+TN97gFzMnshuLAPhT6bUqTcbpdhG7/m+38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RnhWaJZxLWqMupBN2ya+tCIGbsTYjquoMDb3Tb/xORTDmznLkmBSaJG2ZDtUohyqe3 TCvLNAtrNtGJ24Jy6WH6jSOExiaoTSAB2ZIbEF8SXKbm9xt25SDpLT287L9VHiYkZ/Gc Z2UkW/ww6D3fu253b0zT3xgaZeoy1lwzJrb+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <677884.3143.qm@web23806.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <677884.3143.qm@web23806.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:20:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - extracting material from CDs From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:27:14 +0000 (UTC) If you aren't doing this on the fly, I'd get Exact Audio Copy and rip the CD to wav. If you are doing this on the fly... then EAC won't work for you. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, rune fagereng wro= te: > Hi ! > I want to extract materials from cds, grooves - vocals etc. I uses Ableto= n. > I have used abletons phase-plugin - but I am not happy jet. Can anyone > recommand a (free) plug for this work - or maby some good technique for > this? > best Rune F. > ________________________________ > Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 15:41:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8D6C3BE77; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=afUqRJl6C2gu3uu4Phcsh/YUd+dwfeDwCY37570vfUs=; b=ISPEZf0Lm9NFNBiMKP+e5Q7REaARn+r02TlZ8k86KW9Q3eqxGLIY+dL057HRPgqkfn eQXRptf+wc+P7pRv7mn6ejhrhEd78/HRPFRcTVXO+IJGdesa4/lQhTuN1nrNIS862hPR kf0/GvXgbkpk7d4wYK81Uw7RIImixcJa2Ok2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ah6zP2F4sO4MJR88n90VOwgWxhNmEqkpg96HKVBrzBimbQUC666hlVLXiUHtBR/6nQ wia271wJSnaurxgUkwrdRp/1vw91wE9DrcSzafk0QoTWWASE3uaWZc0B1iutprSl98MK UV36lgBeAS2OMwkGLKPAWrq2VhFhlZ6vADWcc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <677884.3143.qm@web23806.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:41:09 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908110841s29432b06hdd746cf38d094127@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - extracting material from CDs From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6adaa12c3cc0470df8878 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:41:10 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6adaa12c3cc0470df8878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Tony K wrote: > > I want to extract materials from cds, grooves - vocals etc. I uses > Ableton. > Route the CD audio through an Ableton track and hit Record. Don't forget to contact right owners for permission if you plan to use it in public. > > I have used abletons phase-plugin - but I am not happy jet. > Guess you mean Live's Phaser plug-in, cause I remember it being a bit odd (not necessarily in a bad meaning). Another good third-party phaser is Ohmforce's Mobilohm. One of the best phasers I've heard for that typical jet aircraft guitar sound (Hendrix Bold As Love is one example) is called Jet and comes with Cycling74's Pluggo. But buing Pluggo today is maybe not very wise since Cycling74 has dropped the upgrade development for that product. Audio Ease's Deep Phase Nine is also good, but you can only guy it as part of the Nautilus Bundle (which gives you also the cool granular live stretching plug-in Riverrun, that you hear a lot in film and tv scores) http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Nautilus/NautilusMain.html And finally, there is also good phasing provided with PhaseMistress from http://www.soundtoys.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd6adaa12c3cc0470df8878 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to extract materials from cds,= grooves - vocals etc. I uses Ableton.

Route the CD audio through an Ableton track and hit Record. Don't for= get to contact right owners for permission if you plan to use it in public.= =C2=A0


> I have used abletons phase-plugin - but I am not happy jet.

Guess you mean Live's Phaser plug-in, cause I re= member it being a bit odd (not necessarily in a bad meaning). Another good = third-party phaser is Ohmforce's Mobilohm. One of the best phasers I= 9;ve heard for that typical jet aircraft guitar sound (Hendrix Bold As Love= is one example) is called Jet and comes with Cycling74's Pluggo. But b= uing Pluggo today is maybe not very wise since Cycling74 has dropped the up= grade development for that product. Audio Ease's Deep Phase Nine is als= o good, but you can only guy it as part of the Nautilus Bundle (which gives= you also the cool granular live stretching plug-in Riverrun, that you hear= a lot in film and tv scores)=C2=A0
<= div>And finally, there is also good phasing provided with PhaseMistress fro= m=C2=A0http://www.soundtoys.com/<= /div>

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen=C2=A0
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
--000e0cd6adaa12c3cc0470df8878-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 16:52:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2E2A3BE78; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FbYdm5Hqt4kBzY/WcxJ8sdUl+Fk/DM0+YZCpgIm8iak=; b=dWaFhA5npv1qdl0hq2p+c1UrcjvpK3Awlhg5wKUPE+zsWTUb2Mu7Enqlu564J5iOfW ybRcrecrkKpfReRpgbnmnHDx+2aZfEUna0Pea3SSFb1z3M/fVwlbnx2umx9NWrHjYVVy NqtxmOvkChy9gfv11cVD/iVgRXjzxGSm+may4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nrprzVrLV7CVvNCUEI0Bv4xAxOkYh25Wr1OrvgyFFhWVkoPAuoNUTmScmNNXWwyEOT pH/tJ4c34TMFGwGP1vpyRGWtdv9xqZh2N2pOk5ywMGEaLz3Z6DCNEgKzZKHKuQnLC+rm NNCZrCOERC6WmAlG2RrEfpeoVne07tsnwiamM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <677884.3143.qm@web23806.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <677884.3143.qm@web23806.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:52:14 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908110952q11318bb7i896b9bf0021d6d24@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - extracting material from CDs From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:52:18 +0000 (UTC) The proper way to do this is to contact the copyright owner and publisher and obtain a license for the material you are interested in using. When you get a license, you are allowed to get a copy of the material directly from the source. For example, a vocal track will be delivered to you from the multitrack masters. If you try to extract the material yourself, you will still have to obtain a license before you use it in public (profit or no profit, it doesn't matter). If the copyright owner and publisher refuse to give you a license, you would have done all that hard work for nothing. Better safe than sorry. On 8/11/09, rune fagereng wrote: > Hi ! > I want to extract materials from cds, grooves - vocals etc. I uses Ableto= n. > I have used abletons phase-plugin - but I am not happy jet. Can anyone > recommand a (free) plug for this work - or maby some good technique for > this? > best Rune F. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i ett. F=C3=A5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From vmbewb@yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 11 16:53:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 520 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:53:47 UTC Received: from sbcworld.in (mail1.sbcworld.in [81.149.108.84]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0586F3BE6F; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([79.143.115.139]) by sbcworld.in with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:42:26 +0100 Reply-To: vmbewb@yahoo.co.uk From: Halifax Subject: Halifax Online Banking - Your new online password Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18.42.23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2009 16:42:26.0461 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5715CD0:01CA1AA2] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 16:59:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61F913BE80; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003a01ca1aa5$51c08d20$0902a8c0@raem50> From: "Reid Ertsgaard" To: References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:01:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA1A6A.A483FF50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: <8AdgdC.A.nWH.bNagKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:59:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA1A6A.A483FF50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's pretty slick! Nicely done. Sadly it crashes a lot on my old = DELL M50 running Windoze 2k. But it's a great idea. Reid Think Pay attention The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Louigi Verona=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops Hello guys! I would like to present to you yet another looping software, but at = the same time a new (old) approach to it. http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dsoftware&t=3Dtapeloops The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play = a sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is = independent - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix. Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play = function and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks = automatically too. What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the tape = loops situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) = and all you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two = decks and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the = desired distance), and of course, what to record on those loops. At the same time, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, = the audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is = represented by a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit to the = amount of opened loops (but your computer memory). Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app interesting = and useful. Louigi Verona. ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening = inside as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and = many other functions which are not technically possible in this = implementation) ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA1A6A.A483FF50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's pretty slick!  Nicely done.  Sadly = it crashes=20 a lot on my old DELL M50 running Windoze 2k. But it's a great = idea.

Reid
Think
Pay attention
 
The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open.  - Gunter = Grass
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Louigi=20 Verona
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 = 6:06=20 AM
Subject: Presenting yet another = looping=20 software: Tape Loops

Hello guys!
I would like to present to you yet = another=20 looping software, but at the same time a new (old) approach to = it.

http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dsoftwa= re&t=3Dtapeloops

The=20 software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play a = sound=20 either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how = it
works is you=20 start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent - and = then just=20 play each of them, thus creating a live mix.
Tape Loops has a lot = of=20 interesting features, most notably Random Play function and = clustering. It is=20 possible to synchronize decks automatically
too.
What's good = about this=20 software is that it basically emulates the tape loops situation. You = couldn't=20 really synchronize them (only manually) and all
you could do was = control=20 the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks and one tape loop = over them=20 and placing the decks apart at the desired
distance), and of = course, what=20 to record on those loops.

At the same time, the app is very = visual, so=20 if you are performing, the audience can see exactly what you are = doing. Each=20 sound is represented by
a "deck", not just some built in mixer. = Also, you=20 have no limit to the amount of opened loops (but your computer=20 memory).

Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this = app=20 interesting and useful.

Louigi Verona.

ps: I do plan to = make a=20 second version with one app and loops opening inside as small windows. = it=20 would allow for easy synchronization and many
other functions which = are not=20 technically possible in this = implementation)
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA1A6A.A483FF50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 16:59:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 358013BE77; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GVfES5O/qD4DlAUT7KnzAwbUJSULB+Xurl71/8RJXX8=; b=j/Cfp23HOu1aZtyb48KCiEDf9zP7peCIpO86kIZiNlG97eXeHqS4a3R1w7cK+1Bcpo zhbp1BU+StIKnQHFv6OaoczqW182FvQB9KjWTbE0Lfh0yYNPfQ98Yx81wfTfl4G5k0qX b2eW8S/05oIm6snAPtO44vdHZlEp3NQlh3B5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CzqYEbJM7TKyVTModADd5qDjmi8ZrSDfN/JtClRYzS28zE5VvQYeSZ/Lxga4OtK0Zz Acnzd7DBJa1Py7z8bQA/ud8s1TwcFyYUQHbVO77MWvygP0fE+RFl0kXs8SsvH63x4R4N 5MIdWqGEUdGtvc/aBP7CXrMRLfQqYaWyESjtY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:59:56 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:59:59 +0000 (UTC) WinDoze only? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Louigi Verona wrote: > Hello guys! > I would like to present to you yet another looping software, but at the same > time a new (old) approach to it. > > http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=software&t=tapeloops > > The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play a > sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it > works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent > - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix. > Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play > function and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automatically > too. > What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the tape loops > situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) and all > you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks > and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired > distance), and of course, what to record on those loops. > > At the same time, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, the > audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented by > a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit to the > amount of opened loops (but your computer memory). > > Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app interesting and > useful. > > Louigi Verona. > > ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening inside > as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and many > other functions which are not technically possible in this implementation) > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 17:08:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 950E53BE80; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:08:10 UTC Message-ID: <004601ca1aa5$71155570$0902a8c0@raem50> From: "Reid Ertsgaard" To: References: <677884.3143.qm@web23806.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <3f8d9ee60908110952q11318bb7i896b9bf0021d6d24@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - extracting material from CDs Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:01:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:08:10 +0000 (UTC) In computing we have an old saying: real programmers write their own code. Reid Think Pay attention The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milo" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: Re: OT - extracting material from CDs The proper way to do this is to contact the copyright owner and publisher and obtain a license for the material you are interested in using. When you get a license, you are allowed to get a copy of the material directly from the source. For example, a vocal track will be delivered to you from the multitrack masters. If you try to extract the material yourself, you will still have to obtain a license before you use it in public (profit or no profit, it doesn't matter). If the copyright owner and publisher refuse to give you a license, you would have done all that hard work for nothing. Better safe than sorry. On 8/11/09, rune fagereng wrote: > Hi ! > I want to extract materials from cds, grooves - vocals etc. I uses Ableton. > I have used abletons phase-plugin - but I am not happy jet. Can anyone > recommand a (free) plug for this work - or maby some good technique for > this? > best Rune F. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i ett. FÃ¥ Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 17:57:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E08193BE73; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d70295eb-b7b4-4c1a-94a9-ae7c4da3baf9_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:57:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2009 17:57:18.0630 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AFBF460:01CA1AAD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:57:18 +0000 (UTC) --_d70295eb-b7b4-4c1a-94a9-ae7c4da3baf9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool software Louigi=2C Do you have plans to allow people to record into the loops live? And maybe = a VST plugin version too? Gareth=20 Date: Tue=2C 11 Aug 2009 17:06:51 +0400 Subject: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops From: louigi.verona@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hello guys! I would like to present to you yet another looping software=2C but at the s= ame time a new (old) approach to it. http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dsoftware&t=3Dtapeloops The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play a so= und either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent= - and then just play each of them=2C thus creating a live mix. Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features=2C most notably Random Play fu= nction and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automatically too. What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the tape loop= s situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) and all you could do was control the length of the loop (by using=2C say=2C two dec= ks and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired distance)=2C and of course=2C what to record on those loops. At the same time=2C the app is very visual=2C so if you are performing=2C t= he audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented b= y a "deck"=2C not just some built in mixer. Also=2C you have no limit to the = amount of opened loops (but your computer memory). Anyway=2C I do think that a lot of you might find this app interesting and = useful. Louigi Verona. ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening insid= e as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and many other functions which are not technically possible in this implementation) _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks=2C emoticons=2C display pic= s=2C and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_d70295eb-b7b4-4c1a-94a9-ae7c4da3baf9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool software Louigi=2C
Do you have plans to allow people to record into= the loops live? And maybe a VST plugin version too?

Gareth
Date: Tue=2C 11 Aug 2009 17:06:51 +0400
Subject: Pre= senting yet another looping software: Tape Loops
From: louigi.verona@gma= il.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hello guys!
I w= ould like to present to you yet another looping software=2C but at the same= time a new (old) approach to it.

http://www.lou= igiverona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&=3Bs=3Dsoftware&=3Bt=3Dtapeloops
The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play = a sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it
w= orks is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent = - and then just play each of them=2C thus creating a live mix.
Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features=2C most notably Random Play fu= nction and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automaticallytoo.
What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the = tape loops situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) = and all
you could do was control the length of the loop (by using=2C say=2C two dec= ks and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desireddistance)=2C and of course=2C what to record on those loops.

At th= e same time=2C the app is very visual=2C so if you are performing=2C the au= dience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented by
a "deck"=2C not just some built in mixer. Also=2C you have no limit to the = amount of opened loops (but your computer memory).

Anyway=2C I do th= ink that a lot of you might find this app interesting and useful.

Louigi Verona.

ps: I do plan to make a second version with one a= pp and loops opening inside as small windows. it would allow for easy synch= ronization and many
other functions which are not technically possible i= n this implementation)

Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 = amazing years with free winks and emoticons. Get Them Now = --_d70295eb-b7b4-4c1a-94a9-ae7c4da3baf9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 18:29:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7D8F3BE77; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/lfLLEa6dHVmUxIH3LTpfi0fKJRKjf8gizgRXwO3JpQ=; b=MJLxzyHXog3lkr46dObsJI+JEwat55xeJUokOMIayyZ0d9k1zxDTnCOvktDJU20ZYk P/woikluyon32Jj2+aZJGkuFfU/SGR8c1MSQ6YOiHpLblXbCjk1Eg4F0Qv6KsH/8HgaB rFlSpn5uhDVEap3as/eUgPlEsJyMFk+CQveBc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BrkjKBzTwd1JxbPYc9mDgRQDUrcDEibtzce591+lin/q6s1WaYYP5i0yWUi0ddlJBU 7UjzqjkodF2iQMYkcibxXTezUBYfx517Hs4QX/XmCpJ70TsYl6ZTA4pKvRjOmbz7TKtF ucuOoD6u3SYJ1Jnv9ux4FM3oNXga2Z2yVo/yg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003a01ca1aa5$51c08d20$0902a8c0@raem50> References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> <003a01ca1aa5$51c08d20$0902a8c0@raem50> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:29:07 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908111129he87f7f1w397c8c7ad17f38bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6487dbce6430470e1e050 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:29:10 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d6487dbce6430470e1e050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, really? Hm. I will see if it has something to do with the audio library I am using. Can you help me identify the problem by telling at what point does it crash? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Reid Ertsgaard wrote: > That's pretty slick! Nicely done. Sadly it crashes a lot on my old DELL > M50 running Windoze 2k. But it's a great idea. > > Reid > Think > Pay attention > > The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Louigi Verona > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:06 AM > *Subject:* Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops > > Hello guys! > I would like to present to you yet another looping software, but at the > same time a new (old) approach to it. > > http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=software&t=tapeloops > > The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play a > sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it > works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent > - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix. > Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play > function and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automatically > too. > What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the tape > loops situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) and > all > you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks > and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired > distance), and of course, what to record on those loops. > > At the same time, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, the > audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented by > a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit to the > amount of opened loops (but your computer memory). > > Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app interesting and > useful. > > Louigi Verona. > > ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening > inside as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and many > other functions which are not technically possible in this implementation) > > --0016e6d6487dbce6430470e1e050 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, really? Hm. I will see if it has something to do with the audio library= I am using. Can you help me identify the problem by telling at what point = does it crash?

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:= 01 PM, Reid Ertsgaard <reidertsgaard@comcast.net> wrote:
That's pretty slick!=A0 Nicely done.=A0 Sadly it = crashes=20 a lot on my old DELL M50 running Windoze 2k. But it's a great idea.

Reid
Think
Pay attention
=A0
The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open.=A0 - Gunter Grass
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Louigi=20 Verona
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:0= 6=20 AM
Subject: Presenting yet another lo= oping=20 software: Tape Loops

Hello guys!
I would like to present to you yet another= =20 looping software, but at the same time a new (old) approach to it.
http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=3Dproje= cts&s=3Dsoftware&t=3Dtapeloops

The=20 software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play a soun= d=20 either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it
works i= s you=20 start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent - and then= just=20 play each of them, thus creating a live mix.
Tape Loops has a lot of= =20 interesting features, most notably Random Play function and clustering. I= t is=20 possible to synchronize decks automatically
too.
What's good ab= out this=20 software is that it basically emulates the tape loops situation. You coul= dn't=20 really synchronize them (only manually) and all
you could do was contr= ol=20 the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks and one tape loop over t= hem=20 and placing the decks apart at the desired
distance), and of course, w= hat=20 to record on those loops.

At the same time, the app is very visual= , so=20 if you are performing, the audience can see exactly what you are doing. E= ach=20 sound is represented by
a "deck", not just some built in mix= er. Also, you=20 have no limit to the amount of opened loops (but your computer=20 memory).

Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app= =20 interesting and useful.

Louigi Verona.

ps: I do plan to mak= e a=20 second version with one app and loops opening inside as small windows. it= =20 would allow for easy synchronization and many
other functions which ar= e not=20 technically possible in this implementation)
=

--0016e6d6487dbce6430470e1e050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 18:29:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9D0D3BE7C; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1rUKZHgiZRNP7LDtJ+nPikzHClg7kepS5cXhZTtp1bU=; b=k7MrqR5bH/sVBmZ4X+08CITuPQtZbCadrZGB/WNG6y+VuZytcTBzG3vxBM/1zDng9o jRu1ufuEFvQVFUI/s2X1d64OmiJ7SF6xSV4UtCwq5bA6ha+LN+Uvi85bmPx9grW2nvax PjhVTjnYt53PJ8zdFS1gUCKZtLEFzpEnaFHlw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w9CkbrbFJGAxgpFKY00CuXr10mWFj5gk5Yn89/KzQHQOYTgZEySKllC+ZBbebpp9K/ 6oDF3hEcks+ibI3t0TyoK5bv+Trrq6fBXzopIDULy7RQC0dcvD2/VgB3IBiz0VUBWq0c DVKRihZG5xnmCGHhRYKNiGTPKGRbqYRCuvVMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:29:49 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908111129h7f4afad7y9b424e9ccffbcf7c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9746e4947ff0470e1e342 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:29:52 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d9746e4947ff0470e1e342 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep, I will make the recording possible soon. ps: when I am replying should I reply right into the mailing list or personally? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Cool software Louigi, > Do you have plans to allow people to record into the loops live? And maybe > a VST plugin version too? > > Gareth > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:06:51 +0400 > Subject: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops > From: louigi.verona@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hello guys! > I would like to present to you yet another looping software, but at the > same time a new (old) approach to it. > > http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=software&t=tapeloops > > The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play a > sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it > works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent > - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix. > Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play > function and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automatically > too. > What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the tape > loops situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) and > all > you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks > and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired > distance), and of course, what to record on those loops. > > At the same time, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, the > audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented by > a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit to the > amount of opened loops (but your computer memory). > > Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app interesting and > useful. > > Louigi Verona. > > ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening > inside as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and many > other functions which are not technically possible in this implementation) > > ------------------------------ > Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and > emoticons. Get Them Now > --0016e6d9746e4947ff0470e1e342 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep, I will make the recording possible soon.

ps: when I am replying= should I reply right into the mailing list or personally?

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@liv= e.co.uk> wrote:
Cool software Louigi,
Do you have plans to allow people to record into t= he loops live? And maybe a VST plugin version too?

Gareth
Da= te: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:06:51 +0400

Subject: Presentin= g yet another looping software: Tape Loops
From: lo= uigi.verona@gmail.com

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com

Hello guys!
I would like to = present to you yet another looping software, but at the same time a new (ol= d) approach to it.

http://www.loui= giverona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dsoftware&t=3Dtapeloops

The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play = a sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it
w= orks is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent = - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix.
Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play func= tion and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automatically
t= oo.
What's good about this software is that it basically emulates th= e tape loops situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manu= ally) and all
you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks a= nd one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired
di= stance), and of course, what to record on those loops.

At the same t= ime, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, the audience can see= exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented by
a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit t= o the amount of opened loops (but your computer memory).

Anyway, I d= o think that a lot of you might find this app interesting and useful.

Louigi Verona.

ps: I do plan to make a second version with one a= pp and loops opening inside as small windows. it would allow for easy synch= ronization and many
other functions which are not technically possible i= n this implementation)

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--0016e6d9746e4947ff0470e1e342-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 18:32:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E5A73BE80; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rpczt1aBIQG2wAVJLzrkAl+Z2buJ9otNkVWZRSOnsUk=; b=uPyiUlJE64FBLb+yObL4Q0U+joJs47dfzjTnKvbMl3NIopwfvyQ6iHdK2xoDot0ag+ k0JWixDnx0ZIoTfmTUnRU6msHcP41NixvJmEVKjwzXMCZR70AZ0nDc9G8buDF1YvXvZ4 VrwInHK3qTruhFixTprRJHvyBdu8G4BczQ9CA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sagqQwyfiikathlXtUksNYJ9W4vHjfvjNJjFzgs8paW+bnnaUi5184rkoJC5bwxt9p nXt31XgkgOzRo1ZawxYIS3WFsok0KBHOKBUv420NuChdq/j3N8U+kSB254E6YtgNa1lF hZ0bLb1Zq6RpD/MaLPGOpf9NXLgP82XVIL3gs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:32:31 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908111132oa61b828r364ee532dab7d2c2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2b15e2d41f0470e1ec0d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:33 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db2b15e2d41f0470e1ec0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, but the binary version available is only for windows. I will have to mention this on the website. The source code is available and the audio library runs under Linux and Mac OS too. But you'll have to compile that yourself at the moment. I plan to switch to a free (as in freedom) audio library like PortAudio to make Tape Loops available in free operating systems like gNewSense, Musix and other GNU/Linux distributions. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > WinDoze only? > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Louigi Verona > wrote: > > Hello guys! > > I would like to present to you yet another looping software, but at the > same > > time a new (old) approach to it. > > > > http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=software&t=tapeloops > > > > The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play a > > sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it > > works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is > independent > > - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix. > > Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play > > function and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks > automatically > > too. > > What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the tape > loops > > situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) and all > > you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two decks > > and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired > > distance), and of course, what to record on those loops. > > > > At the same time, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, the > > audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented by > > a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit to the > > amount of opened loops (but your computer memory). > > > > Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app interesting and > > useful. > > > > Louigi Verona. > > > > ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening > inside > > as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and many > > other functions which are not technically possible in this > implementation) > > > > > > -- > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > --0016e6db2b15e2d41f0470e1ec0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, but the binary version available is only for windows. I will have to me= ntion this on the website.
The source code is available and the audio li= brary runs under Linux and Mac OS too. But you'll have to
compile th= at yourself at the moment.
I plan to switch to a free (as in freedom) audio library like PortAudio to = make Tape Loops available in
free operating systems like gNewSense, Musi= x and other GNU/Linux distributions.

On T= ue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrot= e:
WinDoze only?

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Louigi Verona<louigi.verona@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys!
> I would like to present to you yet another looping software, but at th= e same
> time a new (old) approach to it.
>
> http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=3Dp= rojects&s=3Dsoftware&t=3Dtapeloops
>
> The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play= a
> sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how it > works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is indepe= ndent
> - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix.
> Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play=
> function and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks automatic= ally
> too.
> What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the = tape loops
> situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only manually) an= d all
> you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, two de= cks
> and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the desired=
> distance), and of course, what to record on those loops.
>
> At the same time, the app is very visual, so if you are performing, th= e
> audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound is represented= by
> a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no li= mit to the
> amount of opened loops (but your computer memory).
>
> Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app interesting a= nd
> useful.
>
> Louigi Verona.
>
> ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening = inside
> as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and many
> other functions which are not technically possible in this implementat= ion)
>



--
http://myspace.com= /usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/


--0016e6db2b15e2d41f0470e1ec0d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 11 19:33:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BEA43BE73; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005c01ca1aba$eccbf830$0902a8c0@raem50> From: "Reid Ertsgaard" To: References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> <003a01ca1aa5$51c08d20$0902a8c0@raem50> <20aeede50908111129he87f7f1w397c8c7ad17f38bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:35:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA1A80.400536A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:33:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA1A80.400536A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just playing a wav file, looping nicely,and it generates a "needs to = close" dialog - I'll play with it somemore and see if I can figure = anything out. Reid Think Pay attention The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Louigi Verona=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops Oh, really? Hm. I will see if it has something to do with the audio = library I am using. Can you help me identify the problem by telling at = what point does it crash? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Reid Ertsgaard = wrote: That's pretty slick! Nicely done. Sadly it crashes a lot on my old = DELL M50 running Windoze 2k. But it's a great idea. Reid Think Pay attention The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Louigi Verona=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops Hello guys! I would like to present to you yet another looping software, but = at the same time a new (old) approach to it. = http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dsoftware&t=3Dtapeloops The software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is = play a sound either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how = it works is you start up several instances of it - so each deck is = independent - and then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix. Tape Loops has a lot of interesting features, most notably Random = Play function and clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks = automatically too. What's good about this software is that it basically emulates the = tape loops situation. You couldn't really synchronize them (only = manually) and all you could do was control the length of the loop (by using, say, = two decks and one tape loop over them and placing the decks apart at the = desired distance), and of course, what to record on those loops. At the same time, the app is very visual, so if you are = performing, the audience can see exactly what you are doing. Each sound = is represented by a "deck", not just some built in mixer. Also, you have no limit to = the amount of opened loops (but your computer memory). Anyway, I do think that a lot of you might find this app = interesting and useful. Louigi Verona. ps: I do plan to make a second version with one app and loops = opening inside as small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization = and many other functions which are not technically possible in this = implementation) ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA1A80.400536A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just playing a wav file, looping nicely,and it = generates a=20 "needs to close" dialog - I'll play with it somemore and see if I can = figure=20 anything out.

Reid
Think
Pay attention
 
The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open.  - Gunter = Grass
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Louigi=20 Verona
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 = 11:29=20 AM
Subject: Re: Presenting yet = another=20 looping software: Tape Loops

Oh, really? Hm. I will see if it has something to do = with the=20 audio library I am using. Can you help me identify the problem by = telling at=20 what point does it crash?

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Reid = Ertsgaard <reidertsgaard@comcast.net&g= t;=20 wrote:
That's pretty slick!  Nicely done.  = Sadly it=20 crashes a lot on my old DELL M50 running Windoze 2k. But it's a = great=20 idea.

Reid
Think
Pay attention
 
The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open.  - Gunter=20 Grass
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Louigi Verona
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:=20 Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:06 AM
Subject:=20 Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops

Hello guys!
I would like to present to you yet = another=20 looping software, but at the same time a new (old) approach to=20 it.

http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dsoftw= are&t=3Dtapeloops

The=20 software is called Tape Loops and basically what it can do is play = a sound=20 either looped or once. The app is very minimalistic and how = it
works is=20 you start up several instances of it - so each deck is independent = - and=20 then just play each of them, thus creating a live mix.
Tape = Loops has a=20 lot of interesting features, most notably Random Play function and = clustering. It is possible to synchronize decks=20 automatically
too.
What's good about this software is that = it=20 basically emulates the tape loops situation. You couldn't really=20 synchronize them (only manually) and all
you could do was = control the=20 length of the loop (by using, say, two decks and one tape loop = over them=20 and placing the decks apart at the desired
distance), and of = course,=20 what to record on those loops.

At the same time, the app is = very=20 visual, so if you are performing, the audience can see exactly = what you=20 are doing. Each sound is represented by
a "deck", not just some = built=20 in mixer. Also, you have no limit to the amount of opened loops = (but your=20 computer memory).

Anyway, I do think that a lot of you = might find=20 this app interesting and useful.

Louigi Verona.

ps: = I do=20 plan to make a second version with one app and loops opening = inside as=20 small windows. it would allow for easy synchronization and = many
other=20 functions which are not technically possible in this=20 = implementation)

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Please read carefully because this is a very important message. Your account has been suspended. The reason is billing failure. Please call 866-281-1056 TOLL FREE number and follow the steps to activate your account. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 07:51:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AB933BE78; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ba5484ac-76a2-4c6c-9b7a-154bda6cfa15_" X-Originating-IP: [58.8.125.48] From: Petepong Phasukyud To: Subject: Should I buy Jamcard and FS3X that come with Jamman? 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Get free photo software from Windows Live Click here. = --_ba5484ac-76a2-4c6c-9b7a-154bda6cfa15_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 08:00:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28F403BE7E; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250064031; bh=M5YYuSsaJwiIgfJ+qpFI04yGpmPijkveZwr3fAaPOAc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dBeWZ/0UTT8UMxYnaL0ocSCFfehy21ETSaF61HKhCgfpgBcK3M0E/64vEGQ5XQvlEfPtThpeFcszVQkllaDhETKxKpEKDI5b2iZeBsiaR4qKX23CclHP2e3HKsCA2VkelHcH8iCs5G50hIijLw5cklY41hRCgA+W7eemId7jGaE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kfhv6g760jLQi6SzrjIVNJmhRF9BsUh1/rRrgb2iAyjbX0Dxgxid8WKhNBPUXcqu76kC6sfVlZem0mNgwNaolhIYEie/bj5Au4n3dWvQ884i5vNUKL96p/zjaImdb23Z2ab6rRy01x2CSZyHWzp1AItiQ43yLrFdv8v+sg0yKK0=; Message-ID: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:00:31 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:00:33 +0000 (UTC) there it is=0A=0Ahttp://www.vimeo.com/6053680=0A=0Aenjoy=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A= www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 13:04:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA1C13BE78; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A82BD82.8000902@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:02:58 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival References: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Beautiful, Luis! Even being relatively familiar w/the technology, I found it amazing what you created on the fly. Great use of modulations, and improvising through them. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > there it is > > http://www.vimeo.com/6053680 > > enjoy > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 14:14:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20A633BE75; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8NJE20cb624A:10 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=dfTYANJp9bYFl-mFI6oA:9 a=9wL9FLb9Y4cHFb2ibpaGfH-3hXAA:4 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:14:35 -0700 References: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <8gx2QB.A.2lC.Q5sgKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) I did enjoy it Luis. Many thanks. On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:00 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > there it is > > http://www.vimeo.com/6053680 > > enjoy > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 16:40:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D88F73BE73; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 245219834/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.196.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.196.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8BAHuNgkpPTsQt/2dsb2JhbAAI1B+EGQWKKw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,368,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="245219834" Message-ID: <4A82F097.9000005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:40:55 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops References: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:40:47 +0000 (UTC) hi Jack, I'd guess the fault is the earthing within your amp, not the edp at all. (because you say zeroing the input volume doesn't kill the hum). Philip's suggestion should work, but your amp may be dangerous. Ever hear of those scenarios where the guitarist gets electrocuted when he touches the mic? Yep, that could be you, suggest you get that amp checked out. andy Jack Schultz wrote: > My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground > noise. (sounds like it) I've narrowed it down to the output jack. Even > if my EDP is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into my > amp or computer. Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, the > hum still comes through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs > don't alter the hum at all. In fact nothing does, except turning my amp > off or unplugging the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the > looping material still comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer > than the ground noise sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix > this, or what precisely is making that hum? > > Thanks for any insight, > > Jack From support@icq.com Wed Aug 12 16:55:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3260 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:55:44 UTC Received: from vps.cedonix.com (heedtech.com [207.58.171.104]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0333BE70 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3652 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2009 11:51:14 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (89.43.98.93) by kevindann.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2009 11:51:14 -0400 Reply-To: From: "ICQ Greetings" Subject: Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:51:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090812165544.0A0333BE70@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 17:08:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C62EB3BE71; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 241671573/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.196.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.196.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwBAJKTgkpPTsQt/2dsb2JhbAAIkyfAXIQZBYor X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,368,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="241671573" Message-ID: <4A82F710.2090001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:08:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Gareth Whittock wrote: > Cool software Louigi, > Do you have plans to allow people to record into the loops live? > > Gareth LOL ...never saw that one coming ;-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 17:14:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CCDF3BE78; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 242313804/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.196.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.196.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8BAPuUgkpPTsQt/2dsb2JhbAAI032EGQWKKw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,368,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="242313804" Message-ID: <4A82F867.2000903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:14:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Presenting yet another looping software: Tape Loops References: <20aeede50908110606y4a41e0exb6c673a36816dc0e@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908111129h7f4afad7y9b424e9ccffbcf7c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908111129h7f4afad7y9b424e9ccffbcf7c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Louigi Verona wrote: > Yep, I will make the recording possible soon. > > ps: when I am replying should I reply right into the mailing list or > personally? > For that particular answer, and similar questions about the functionality of the software then it's good to send to the list. There's a lot of people here interested. If it's about bugs in the software, probably keep it off list and deal with individuals. ...but there's no rules :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 19:08:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 955A13BE78; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:08:59 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250103738; bh=t6olqwSIPenJ5CFBxzuwdbKe7Ijv9NYyVDFZ4sS1DpY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=po3o2XW2V4ZmWcLK9dkCaFfw3HZDab9ohImCfdHbTmv64uYrAHakaQ1MOICrsizTyzLuJex9uCumVyKAInN+59VxfhZSjqMHsiJbj1Oq7gEm+5jajH0EyFMRoYV6ifu3pRFN0u3++znF6DdkhYyBtBuD6TXIRLwb6rrjsPuzFqY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jsXlzkKyYc+AEAVSWvFTNpkopr4VrOdCN1+ISuP/3O9f5MyReV1XZ99N8OU097Jg6mFrgQydryKlfoyaCEq3NHhMTDfbIc7l5w+BV/vIY5sssw2L297BCmN+Ry3Xlpupoae2JQld0qmvb/Vc62XzcM22KclxxaKMUs8cgSaxDsY=; Message-ID: <232751.41353.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AlfeZDYVM1kkKtn7UXUbJttk7cP23.ys0ilmfR7LI1QNGk8bpXc7Z10CAyR_.N15l7d7nsqXWfjk_k8tHIGNaMVaSaoEVmP5rbQMbFyV6eBi8z3LMhtXln8sDPSzWmlgXsQXvIcG8BikdMij.GhnzSkFtWB3erEgR5Jbc4bBnCt2M5LRpSHB.UsILj2drLm4aFViXUCO.txj6t61AqO070CNPRb.IY0n84pJirE4ocR4XAVAG4mbgIAAXSYhiLkSldBDvmSoJGkqjeZJXzxE8qAUjw5obWhTVYh_G.NOmd0Kqty1usdE3U3w841lrOa.9QgR0UjYMyeaQ9QufMpW8kRjNZ_BqAprWSDCEiIiwtFV X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: testing-not sure if my email is working-NEW DIGITECH GEAR ? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-101779973-1250103738=:41353" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:08:59 +0000 (UTC) --0-101779973-1250103738=:41353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not sure if my email is working right (i think i messed up my yahoo acct, c= lassic me), so minor test.... =A0 has anyone checked out the new Digitech Timebender delay pedal ?? =A0 or =A0 the new Digitech RP series multi-effects, RP 155/255/355??? (these #'s are = hard to keep track of...)..they have the 20 second looper in them... =A0 just curious...or has everyone gone software/laptop computers..... =A0 thanks, s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen=0A=0A=0A --0-101779973-1250103738=:41353 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
not sure if my email is working right (i= think i messed up my yahoo acct, classic me), so minor test....
 
has anyone checked out the new Digitech Timebender delay pedal ??
 
or
 
the new Digitech RP series multi-effects, RP 155/255/355??? (these #'s= are hard to keep track of...)..they have the 20 second looper in them...
 
just curious...or has everyone gone software/laptop computers.....
 
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=0A=0A --0-101779973-1250103738=:41353-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 19:14:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB9B53BE78; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <57FCE175-9DA8-4E2C-AA7C-F8B8D3FD6171@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <232751.41353.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-592--933189796 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: testing-not sure if my email is working-NEW DIGITECH GEAR ? Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:13:53 -0500 References: <232751.41353.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:14:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-592--933189796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > sure if my email is working right (i think i messed up my yahoo > acct, classic me), so minor test.... Check... > > has anyone checked out the new Digitech Timebender delay pedal ?? > Not personally, but I have heard good things about it. Jeff --Apple-Mail-592--933189796 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 sure if my email is working right (i think i messed up my yahoo acct, classic me), so minor test....

Check...

 
has anyone checked out the new Digitech Timebender delay pedal ??
 
Not personally, but I have heard good things about it.

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-592--933189796-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 12 23:28:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 467C23BE73; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: john floridis To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:28:22 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <5i5PSC.A.ooE.ZA1gKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:28:25 +0000 (UTC) I have been having a dilemma in trying to find a way to record acoustic guitar with/without voice and was curious if anyone had any ideas. Long story short- Present set up is: 2007 Macbook, Mbox 2, one external monitor screen Using macbook to run either Logic or Pro Tools and saving files to external drive. When recording with open mics, fan comes on in macbook to the point that it makes recording either solo guitar pieces or even guitar/voice recording rather pointless. In these cases nothing else would be added to the recording, so nowhere to hide. I've come to the conclusion that I simply need to put macbook in closet next to recording space. I know this will work sonically, but I'd still like two monitor screens, and one needs to mirror the macbook screen or at least have the menu bar. I did find this product- http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/dh2go/ and I'm curious if anyone has any experience with such a device. The tech support seemed to think it would work for what I'm trying to do. The other question is .... Is there something I'm missing here? Finally, given what I'm trying to accomplish - recording quiet music with access to two monitor screens - what are some other setups people are using? I've heard the new iMacs are amazingly silent, but the idea of having something with a fan that could come on makes me nervous. I'd rather make what I have work. By the way, looping would come into play once I get all of this to work. Any input is appreciated, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 00:02:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 619F23BE71; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:02:56 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM MacOS X Eudora Version 6.2J rev3.3 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:56:10 +0900 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: OT: [new release] Sunao Inami / Disinfectant Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi LD, Sorry for off topic. My new release information. Artist / title : Sunao Inami / Disinfectant Label: electr-ohm (Japan) Product number :TCCD-20091 Sunao Inami's 7th album out! Unreleased live recording materials got cutup remix and reconstruction to new tracks. Basic live tracks recorded in Tokyo,May 2009. His high Knowledge of abstract sound design and DSP based electronic improvisation gives complex and very original IDM or Rhythmic noise. This CD is not live album, but it keep live performance's exiting experience with newer technology. Sunao Inami uses NI Reaktor 5,Ableton Live 8 and JazzMutant Lemur v2 Genre: IDM, Industrial,Rhythmic noise. 15 tracks,70 min 42 sec 1000 copies ltd. CD only. Made in Japan Details: http://www.electr-ohm.com http://shop.cavestudio.org/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/773 Regards Sunao Inami http://www.myspace.com/sunao From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 01:54:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C22243BE71; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <28030.65.48.1250128492.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:54:52 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <-ERHqD.A.5xB.pJ3gKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Hey Luis, Really enjoyed this. Love the different sounds you are getting. I was wondering, are you using an external effects box or plugins? Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:00 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > >> there it is >> >> http://www.vimeo.com/6053680 >> >> enjoy >> Luis >> >> >> >> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 02:10:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A44053BE75; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 396 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:10:54 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XtPz3oXbugqwTj3CYKsCNaIaLjdyqT7ESvcvBQ3uRM4=; b=hDPNqEddYzGRB7AGO6jLqpsJgZ/pwcXlc0FbFU8bmvqSy3N1GVnbtrtl8I83dLabpL v+fWm+kn0MewyydSfnbgbNl0Y8a51SUR3DhfWe09RBaU3j2DB/KNJIpRuovmKD593PWX 5z82i6sUQIm7rwvTP6C/S+JZMnOXFu3mjgak4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a34WD+yhouPboFWiJBwsydpTNkzwqRLp+Y6cALsDSGCyw4Ba85sHA4tlDqPtLRdoyP 9ItHCTfUq9KosDdXQfog6lTR32FghTWMwDuG9PtcD9FSvzPWTSwLcycCWcXkhOwrGOB+ Wlh/jG36Bhtx17HKtUX6PbEhy0V/p2gMZFCCo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <28030.65.48.1250128492.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <28030.65.48.1250128492.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:04:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:10:54 +0000 (UTC) i liked very much, luis. versatile musician! 2009/8/13, Andr=E9 Donawa : > Hey Luis, > > Really enjoyed this. > Love the different sounds you are getting. > > I was wondering, are you using an external effects box or plugins? > > Andre > > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > > > >> On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:00 AM, L.Angulo wrote: >> >>> there it is >>> >>> http://www.vimeo.com/6053680 >>> >>> enjoy >>> Luis >>> >>> >>> >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 05:50:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C2D73BE72; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 836 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:50:12 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:36:12 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 3736aafc-87cb-11de-98d8-002264978518 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRefTsLCBpo UEhAUlJUHgZuCx0F SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0K0EJ Rx8nYw0GZWNhYGFR UkhfdU1XdwBML04T OU13UyBffGQGMi99 Tl8/b3VpZW8FdngE HVFQdAIEe0tZVj47 Qh1KBzgkGlcJRiM8 aBkvIVQbG0VWPEw0 eV0mWEkVdBICFgBE GUhJSCpeIVgdQDAw ZXZl X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.pelican.dmpriest.net.uk:1849/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:50:13 +0000 (UTC) i've recorded everything on a macbook. to solve the fan noise prob i do this... i made a soundcave under my desk out of acoustic foam that i put the laptop in. kind of a large foam box open on the back. not perfect, but i've found as long as i have foam on the top and 2 sides, it does a good job (in a dead room. in a live room i need to close the box up more.) to run the computer...i've got a flat panel screen on the wall and a wireless mouse and keyboard on the other side of the room where i record. done. its very simple and i can disconnect and remove the macbook quickly from the soundcave. On Aug 12, 2009, at 4:28 PM, john floridis wrote: > I have been having a dilemma in trying to find a way to record > acoustic guitar with/without voice and was curious if anyone had any > ideas. Long story short- > > Present set up is: > 2007 Macbook, > Mbox 2, > one external monitor screen > > Using macbook to run either Logic or Pro Tools and saving files to > external drive. > > When recording with open mics, fan comes on in macbook to the point > that it makes recording either solo guitar pieces or even guitar/ > voice recording rather pointless. In these cases nothing else would > be added to the recording, so nowhere to hide. > > I've come to the conclusion that I simply need to put macbook in > closet next to recording space. I know this will work sonically, > but I'd still like two monitor screens, and one needs to mirror the > macbook screen or at least have the menu bar. I did find this > product- http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/dh2go/ > and I'm curious if anyone has any experience with such a device. > The tech support seemed to think it would work for what I'm trying > to do. > > The other question is .... Is there something I'm missing here? > > Finally, given what I'm trying to accomplish - recording quiet music > with access to two monitor screens - what are some other setups > people are using? I've heard the new iMacs are amazingly silent, > but the idea of having something with a fan that could come on makes > me nervous. I'd rather make what I have work. > > By the way, looping would come into play once I get all of this to > work. > > Any input is appreciated, > > John > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 05:59:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 127BF3BE73; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:59:51 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_afc8b257-e871-40b6-b292-1d7decf5152b_" X-Originating-IP: [75.71.104.252] From: Mike Goldsmith To: Subject: RE: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:54:51 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2009 05:54:51.0714 (UTC) FILETIME=[9308FA20:01CA1BDA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:59:52 +0000 (UTC) --_afc8b257-e871-40b6-b292-1d7decf5152b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Search for the program Fan Control for mac... you can shut off the fan with= software... just don't leave it off for too long. > From: info@zoekeating.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors > Date: Wed=2C 12 Aug 2009 22:36:12 -0700 >=20 > i've recorded everything on a macbook. >=20 > to solve the fan noise prob i do this... >=20 > i made a soundcave under my desk out of acoustic foam that i put the =20 > laptop in. kind of a large foam box open on the back. not perfect=2C but = =20 > i've found as long as i have foam on the top and 2 sides=2C it does a =20 > good job (in a dead room. in a live room i need to close the box up =20 > more.) >=20 > to run the computer...i've got a flat panel screen on the wall and a =20 > wireless mouse and keyboard on the other side of the room where i =20 > record. >=20 > done. >=20 > its very simple and i can disconnect and remove the macbook quickly =20 > from the soundcave. >=20 >=20 > On Aug 12=2C 2009=2C at 4:28 PM=2C john floridis wrote: >=20 > > I have been having a dilemma in trying to find a way to record =20 > > acoustic guitar with/without voice and was curious if anyone had any =20 > > ideas. Long story short- > > > > Present set up is: > > 2007 Macbook=2C > > Mbox 2=2C > > one external monitor screen > > > > Using macbook to run either Logic or Pro Tools and saving files to =20 > > external drive. > > > > When recording with open mics=2C fan comes on in macbook to the point = =20 > > that it makes recording either solo guitar pieces or even guitar/=20 > > voice recording rather pointless. In these cases nothing else would =20 > > be added to the recording=2C so nowhere to hide. > > > > I've come to the conclusion that I simply need to put macbook in =20 > > closet next to recording space. I know this will work sonically=2C =20 > > but I'd still like two monitor screens=2C and one needs to mirror the = =20 > > macbook screen or at least have the menu bar. I did find this =20 > > product- http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/dh2go/ =20 > > and I'm curious if anyone has any experience with such a device. =20 > > The tech support seemed to think it would work for what I'm trying =20 > > to do. > > > > The other question is .... Is there something I'm missing here? > > > > Finally=2C given what I'm trying to accomplish - recording quiet music = =20 > > with access to two monitor screens - what are some other setups =20 > > people are using? I've heard the new iMacs are amazingly silent=2C =20 > > but the idea of having something with a fan that could come on makes =20 > > me nervous. I'd rather make what I have work. > > > > By the way=2C looping would come into play once I get all of this to =20 > > work. > > > > Any input is appreciated=2C > > > > John > > > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Stay on top of things=2C check email from other accounts! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9671355= --_afc8b257-e871-40b6-b292-1d7decf5152b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Search for the program Fan Control for mac... you can shut off the fan with= software... just don't leave it off for too long.

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Check it out. = --_afc8b257-e871-40b6-b292-1d7decf5152b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 06:51:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E1AC3BE78; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A83B7D5.5000704@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:51:01 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Accurate Naming ,Live Looping Festivals and some embarrassing ego death Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, I really loved Luis Angulo's vocal loop at the Antwerp Live Looping Festival. I was backstage at the time and didn't even realize that he did everything with vocals............. It was really beautiful and inspiring. ******** Not to take away from anything at all from his wonderful video posts on line, but I had a little ego death when I read that he read that he had named that festival the ANTWERP Y2K9 LOOP FESTIVAL Belgium 2009 and the one in Koln last year, "live at Y2K8 Koln, Germany. I feel a little bad about having an ego attack about it, but I have worked incredibly hard to produce the Y2K9 (and 7 other) Live Looping Festivals, annually in Santa Cruz and used the Y2K-? International Live Looping Festival for many years now. I'm really proud what we've accomplished as a community in those annual festivals and aware that they have inspired other events in other countries (though I can't take any credit for that, of course) Each festival (as festival producers Sjaak Overgauw, Fabio Anile, Massimo Livernani, Luca Formentini, Bruno Kleinedfeld, Michael Peters, Leander Reininghaus, Andreas Willers, Rainer Straschill Bernhard Wagner, Andy Butler, Os, Gareth Whittock, Peter Koniuto, Hans Lindauer, David Kirdorffer, Sunao Inami and so many other people who I may have missed in this cursory list, have learned the hard way) takes a tremendous labor of love to pull off and , literally months of hard work. I'm, currently, in month 4 of working on it with 2 and a half months left to go, as an example All without payment About the Y2K-? International Live Looping Festivals: I'm very proud of a few things that have distinquished it (not made it better, mind you because the festivals in the past two summers alone in the UK and Europe have been amazing) from all the other wonderful looping festivals that have been produced with so much hard work from their producers. 1) I'm proud that I have constantly tried to have 'newbies' play in the early hours of the 48 hour marathong of the mainfestival. This is NOT a popular thing to do if you look at other festival producers which is okay, but I"m proud of having helped to turn many, many young talented musicians on to looping through the use of the loan of my own personal gear to get them to create a 'newbie' set. 2) I'm also proud that it has been the largest festival of it's kind each year on the planet and I've been told by several live looping festival producers that it was a direct inspiration on their decisions to put on the wonderful looping festivals they'd put on. Soooooooo, please forvive me but would it be too much ego to ask that people not call other live looping festivals by the Y2K moniker? None of them have been called that, to my knowledge so far. For one thing such inaccurate mentions really effect my website hits to have several festivals referred inaccurately by the Y2K handle (one, which I admittedly borrowed and morphed from Michael Peter's and I'm counting on publicity from those website hits when strangers put live looping festival into a search engine. I don't have this term legally registered. I have no right to it at all. In fact I borrowed it and morphed it from Michael Peter's My2K website originally in 2000. So I'm merely asking as a favor to keep that moniker for this festival. ******************************************* Like I say, I'm really nervous about an ego smackdown for admitting that I have an ego attachment to that moniker (at least until I stop doing the festival, or pass it on, some time in the next few years) but I do think I've earned it. By the way, I adore Luis Angulo. He is like a brother to me so I'm not upset with him about this at all in any personal way. I am sending this message along to him now as well as to the L.D. Daily Digest. I just felt sheepish but realized that it was causing me a bit of ego death and I felt under appreciated (which I KNOW is not Luis's intention-----he's just putting up the amazing performances that garnered him a return visit to the Antwerp Live Looping Festival next summer...............amazing and inspiring stuff as always from Luis. Okay.....................let me know if you think I'm out of line. Let the flames begin.....................lol yours, respectfully, Rick Walker Y2K9 International Live Looping Festival www.y2kloopfest.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 07:01:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8FA93BE75; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A83BA3E.9090307@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:01:18 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Looping Festival Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I agree with everyone's praise of Luis' performance in Antwerp. I've always thought of Luis as one of the most soulful musicians in our extended family and I just love his voice. It's not live looping, but go find his self produced/self played Latin pop/rock tunes on the web. They are really beautiful. He's always inspiring to me, personally and musically, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 07:04:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D953A3BE73; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vmnl4HnOEtBD+noMHjSqSF2aY7sOhPDtT2veFi7LR30=; b=luDy1Bko71xP5IgseTJy85sQZktyV9M+tyFGl7hwCm+Z3VGipKDEP6amepBycYZPVV z+6WYEJM/HOlYhsTMZ8j3+o7/IikQItsUXZQftOSv4RPFt60IW78sBrq6YHn9D7cuIZA 4zTbw9KXElDCTKz6V+Lt5PRixnFDx3ONPL5Vo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nokRraxIBddzR8CmXOhNSsFvk7R9HTX51JkarDy4iCEAUCHAQHAVv++g1ZBigHm0zs NfK9ckV5NLvwA65bcoqLJmTLhKtnbolKfPZj2pWf6VF4II57Mfy8ZlqK8DYO2HxY2OeP WLG4C+cIyhy73QQh+jGrP58qmV2pjZBfDrohE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A83B7D5.5000704@cruzio.com> References: <4A83B7D5.5000704@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:04:01 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908130004n1a8faf60tda83d92962145aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Accurate Naming ,Live Looping Festivals and some embarrassing ego death From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db61c05055f80471008a6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:04:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db61c05055f80471008a6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This does sound like a valid request. What was the real name of the festival in Belgium? --0016e6db61c05055f80471008a6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This does sound like a valid request. What was the real name of the festival in Belgium?
--0016e6db61c05055f80471008a6c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 10:44:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09E593BE73; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A83EE69.4020903@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:43:53 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:44:00 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) every Thursday morning. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 14:33:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD5313BE75; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vSZMWjcjqZWzjdjZXxUEFyD31Vd68C9J2m56u0qXjtM=; b=GMAMtsbnBIYBvVJXLAYiTfLaUSoDNFHUfM6ib+DzFAxEhvC1TUimz0xlGqO5oT96tv XD1g3D7hF4lcUbNaxwr3DqXDWTV90nzswb/1udZwzgYF4Lls6A0iBlTH0cJBF3MfJ8lj PZfgZa5sloQx90Af6AsvNHL968OqLK94whnPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=nPohD4Ny8EN/GWNwY5f1UPIJAyavEYJOibJa0lYHt8uCFhdypCx7Ivp9Sbw1ISIskm PQboT7i1AgYjJUAIjjG0FKHgYsCCcTmYchIJ5Q6AQRrj2zNzx/towCt6G33IzqNEKrWe 4hI59/7SQO4TS4MaCnsgs1UafeiWxBvlTme4Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:33:58 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90908130733p760e29d2uc09a34e53bbfcd3e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Eno on composing in the studio From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:33:59 +0000 (UTC) A bit dated, but still interesting read. http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 15:23:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32C323BE78; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 461 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:23:09 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Q46Xx6Jiu6crzym9vy43xo32zW6daj4lu4VjCKz4LqY=; b=gvp/+iMiilNoFe+5r42orBFF6WlYJEKwfl+bowe4yc/KJXYduar2RytuLErHXlk611 zjLTx+KwZriqymzmhpNK5B05OlT9/Sjq2wk5ClYut/3EETVSD8Cz09/FTfUedQ3/QT2A TOTTWl2ENXfRZiQnwTI5dI/wyI9LnfjZGf6kw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Afbs2LK/nLhwwhVwVTwp/6C2AqcMqOBUAki7zvwSlIDPf0FK9nTSQ9PJ9DEriMG59Q gsBTthCS5Mzg9ZaXRRI31uvOSD891SXjZRj4CpF/KGpC/M+BNS3O6PTSsFbcpqknmQE9 2ADLOCFqTO9kzrN1zHu2eyIDSLxAVEWh6+ZqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:15:26 -0400 Message-ID: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Re: Eno on composing in the studio From: Clint Allen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6da62c3965c04710767ca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:23:10 +0000 (UTC) --001485f6da62c3965c04710767ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eno references "A Major Groove" as being a track on "Music For Films" but I don't find this track on the original or re-issue releases. Does anyone know where this track exists? I love Skysaw and would be very interested to hear a variation on it. Clint Allen On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sylvain Poitras < sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote: > A bit dated, but still interesting read. > > http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm > > Sylvain > > -- Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering --001485f6da62c3965c04710767ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Eno references "A Major Groove" as being a track on "Mu= sic For Films" but I don't find this track on the original or re-i= ssue releases. Does anyone know where this track exists? I love Skysaw and = would be very interested to hear a variation on it.
Clint Allen
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sylvain Poitra= s <sylva= in.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
A bit dated, but still interesti= ng read.

http://music.hyperreal.org/artist= s/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm

Sylvain



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Clint E. Allen
* Technology Consultant
* Sound = Engineering
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 16:29:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B79E93BE70; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:29:37 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RIP Les Paul References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5c-OaB.A.IkF.09DhKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Crap...no...we owe him so much. I'd been meaning for years to see him play at his regular gig in NYC. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8QPmtzAD9A23OFG0 Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 16:38:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E2CF3BE73; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NGkBRfxedBpg74sYsnnxvUY8/4WFo488BlBwf5bCA1E=; b=APKXi00TIeU6yNnEwpwdKERwdO3s5zBygIB561nTR62fc8w6XoMYl1VWriVWCk1Fwk Q0mye51FyUV5xFMOcnAvZvOBD8xVsOAz3Hjd+TydcioSrfJZk5fu+0uk/oYI1+AxQTh3 bSmVbRJFNTXgJJlJZMf/RGDfggG3VW/EcoQgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aUGuXgtbWQ+aMyzeEWsO8uFLuQeaMwgVop6TubfFThqFI5WyvMfxNdr9P9chSjo2K/ YXRQUOsSfnsX+QSaN9GR2967+F+/tExlk0TS+Al3hU6zOKjsSmkFFQEzZzVVHOxpEGt4 +qiFZJTL4bH84jnwRL5uCzgIKslDbQ7vrtugc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:38:26 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908130938k700b73e6t60fb4ff6ec374960@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b1fa9f80ae047108901e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:38:30 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b1fa9f80ae047108901e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow yes, tragic news - time is limited and this is a reminder On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Crap...no...we owe him so much. I'd been meaning for years to see him play > at his regular gig in NYC. > > > http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8QPmtzAD9A23OFG0 > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b1fa9f80ae047108901e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow yes, tragic news - time is limited and this is a reminder

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhors= e.com> wrote:
Crap...no...we owe him so much. = I'd been meaning for years to see him play at his regular gig in NYC.
http://www.google.com/hosted= news/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8QPmtzAD9A23OFG0

Daryl Shawn
www= .swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com




--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music li= nks...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= /a>
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001636c5b1fa9f80ae047108901e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 16:54:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB373BE75; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:50:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC) I interviewed Les Paul in 1976 and attended a show in which he demonstrated the in-development "Les Paulverizer" - a looping device! Somewhere in my stash I have a recording of that set, in which he demonstrated it. At 12:29 PM -0400 8/13/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: >Crap...no...we owe him so much. I'd been meaning for years to see >him play at his regular gig in NYC. > >http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8QPmtzAD9A23OFG0 -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 17:23:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D64FD3BE70; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 405 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:23:10 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5UpR3pkImuGJJRJafLbH/jQ/ZIORCEQdXdy6Rj0Nhs0=; b=pdQubZYcksZ08IriR8HQb3cvF7AxCAiksH9+re4G3xUcA9hJxCsUqrMWt724nhLhTG u4Vu3J0Y3FAXQUt5Mqw2IuRH8oPwNlMYhUCJvpfEDWkNXB1T1gIYmWE1SPCkcny5/fo+ zoebOoNv7R+myVxj9SpHpKTlD9fXnSC/66vSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=u5PHu4HlY7jB99caEqZwAdMnqbnyVFHjuxdqEFD/hg40xrhLodIuOwRNF8Lo5w/Kgx /zltbuMgK0u778BfgvWSeGRuyver8zqV7YS2v2ZRyybXEEm/aj3TpHa+G5irMF0IJ1Tr 7ENvsGiNVsMLFm5IuBPd0Lag0a5Y7b7D6M308= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A82F097.9000005@tiscali.co.uk> References: <3c3c57a30908071727u1782bda0uc0a5ea9cc290089a@mail.gmail.com> <4A82F097.9000005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:16:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3c3c57a30908131016h7c16206dtf6d95c13c275b2a5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help! EDP output makes hum louder than my loops From: Jack Schultz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f92312a57092504710918b5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:23:10 +0000 (UTC) --00c09f92312a57092504710918b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Andy! I thought I had ruled my amp out, but I guess I didn't. Anyway, the EDP is humming along nicely through a different amp now. Thank you for taking some time to help me out. Jack On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Jack, > > I'd guess the fault is the earthing within your amp, > not the edp at all. > (because you say zeroing the input volume doesn't kill the hum). > > Philip's suggestion should work, > but your amp may be dangerous. > > Ever hear of those scenarios where the guitarist gets electrocuted > when he touches the mic? > > Yep, that could be you, suggest you get that amp checked out. > > andy > > > Jack Schultz wrote: > >> My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground noise. >> (sounds like it) I've narrowed it down to the output jack. Even if my EDP >> is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into my amp or computer. >> Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, the hum still comes >> through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs don't alter the hum at >> all. In fact nothing does, except turning my amp off or unplugging the EDP. >> The looping functions work fine and the looping material still comes out of >> the EDP, but it is a little softer than the ground noise sounding hum. Does >> anyone have ideas on how to fix this, or what precisely is making that hum? >> >> Thanks for any insight, >> >> Jack >> > > --00c09f92312a57092504710918b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Andy!

I thought I had ruled my amp out, but I guess I didn= 't. Anyway, the EDP is humming along nicely through a different amp now= .=A0 Thank you for taking some time to help me out.

Jack

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:
hi Jack,

I'd guess the fault is the earthing within your amp,
not the edp at all.
(because you say zeroing the input volume doesn't kill the hum).

Philip's suggestion should work,
but your amp may be dangerous.

Ever hear of those scenarios where the guitarist gets electrocuted
when he touches the mic?

Yep, that could be you, suggest you get that amp checked out.

andy


Jack Schultz wrote:
My Gibson EDP produces an insanely loud hum which I think is ground noise. = (sounds like it) =A0I've narrowed it down to the output jack. =A0Even i= f my EDP is turned off, it will still make a really loud hum into my amp or= computer. =A0Even if I mute my amp and turn all the gain down, the hum sti= ll comes through my amp at full volume. The input/output knobs don't al= ter the hum at all. =A0In fact nothing does, except turning my amp off or u= nplugging the EDP. The looping functions work fine and the looping material= still comes out of the EDP, but it is a little softer than the ground nois= e sounding hum. Does anyone have ideas on how to fix this, or what precisel= y is making that hum?

Thanks for any insight,

Jack


--00c09f92312a57092504710918b5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 17:30:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96DD3BE7E; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5vTAYMKzsqdasxWpPVJygGG8sVZ+RAW75qsN4rf37Yc=; b=O786k61hD3SPeuLNmHgdYSEfPuvWkXOmoaeNFYU4xoCh8re9N81ZiF0HSj1MgWwGlU SbtfmcshAorpetsKnqy1gJvLxTcvfbhdsk61hLIvak2BUZGehZ6WJdxSy86Kwv7ME2EX cdT0VGPrKgSMbzCFWSdBWkelo9D8E88tP6xgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nrTrYh5NFwlzScpjmph0GwE2ocMfWDUHvfIn8tgapAQaoaQCiPoPW0BEw8WUP6YEzA GS2fJj1UbiAUcJ7nlfBurKE+yhL0An8tEOOGBB72R3n6Z8lVljBdo+MgPWpL/5CepGeB oTMhCuF8Ob3oyCZBWiYz20lUx9diZAtTlIxuE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:30:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0908131030hdf71267x6bbf66bb92ec6bf7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64079cc568b500471094999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:30:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64079cc568b500471094999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was lucky enough to see Les at Iridium on NYC maybe 4 or 5 years back. He was a great storyteller! I wish I could have seen him in his prime. It was clear at the gig that his hands were not what they used to be. I think he was only using two fingers of his left hand. But his knowledge made up for any lack of dexterity. I'm truly grateful to have seen him before he died. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:50 AM, David Gans wrote: > > > I interviewed Les Paul in 1976 and attended a show in which he demonstrated > the in-development "Les Paulverizer" - a looping device! Somewhere in my > stash I have a recording of that set, in which he demonstrated it. > > > > > At 12:29 PM -0400 8/13/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> Crap...no...we owe him so much. I'd been meaning for years to see him play >> at his regular gig in NYC. >> >> >> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8QPmtzAD9A23OFG0 >> > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --0016e64079cc568b500471094999 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was lucky enough to see Les at Iridium on NYC=A0maybe 4 or 5 years b= ack. He was a great storyteller! I wish I could have seen him in his prime.= It was clear at the gig that his hands were not what they used to be. I th= ink he was only using two fingers of his left hand. But his knowledge made = up for any lack of dexterity. I'm truly grateful to have seen him befor= e he died.

=A0
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:50 AM, David Gans <david@trufun.com&= gt; wrote:


I interviewed Les Paul i= n 1976 and attended a show in which he demonstrated the in-development &quo= t;Les Paulverizer" - a looping device! Somewhere in my stash I have a = recording of that set, in which he demonstrated it.=20




At 12:29 PM -0400 8/13/09, Daryl Shawn wr= ote:
Crap...no...we owe him so much. = I'd been meaning for years to see him play at his regular gig in NYC.
http://www.google.com/hosted= news/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8QPmtzAD9A23OFG0


--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
T= ruth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog: =A0http= ://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos= /dgans
Music: http:/= /www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans





--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
--0016e64079cc568b500471094999-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 17:42:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE47D3BE78; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Aa4keXYyWbndPG+BkKKw6oOVuEbESWTBCur13FON5Is=; b=C7b14OdwBYKWIkXyemOPuyVjukmlLJhfJQyRVNs84oXWHV7eB4T6hvBoVgmBVlDNjM 8fU2q37cgyPAwfITQC0USDsK/dUrXSbSUS4LqHepSxiqdbhgpyxaTWiqHagYSBsWu4f/ bzh4wIrO8vTXgVF6s4zr7J82l0Ue01mBeDlc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LQtpbC+wYmQnsoVVTT6/s5UKeCKal5vwJf1xQIiauIIGlMXvHS067mm2c7MMtrw+n+ MmyugLsHkE2VAE7+teIBwEjKqgntuC/wJPDUaZcrEm64L3SMuMpwCpZZb2As9s5AUkzK 5aF8nwYK+cIXQkvpRlqYul27KLk8YfHAeann8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90908130733p760e29d2uc09a34e53bbfcd3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a90908130733p760e29d2uc09a34e53bbfcd3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:42:56 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908131042g2002a8b2jc647ba709d43e5f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Eno on composing in the studio From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7bc33f176a047109771e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:42:57 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7bc33f176a047109771e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think these ideas can get outdated, really. Very nice interview. I wish there were more videos of him speaking on YouTube. He is an interesting thinker and inspired me a lot. Louigi Verona. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > A bit dated, but still interesting read. > > http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm > > Sylvain > > --0016364c7bc33f176a047109771e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think these ideas can get outdated, really. Very nice interview= . I wish there were more videos of him speaking on YouTube.
He is an int= eresting thinker and inspired me a lot.

Louigi Verona.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/inte= rviews/downbeat79.htm

Sylvain


--0016364c7bc33f176a047109771e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 18:24:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4A3A3BE70; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_00fea758-9917-4486-a103-a5f96cc83f71_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: RIP Les Paul Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:24:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0908131030hdf71267x6bbf66bb92ec6bf7@mail.gmail.com> References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> <1318f21d0908131030hdf71267x6bbf66bb92ec6bf7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2009 18:24:02.0358 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BB4ED60:01CA1C43] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:24:02 +0000 (UTC) --_00fea758-9917-4486-a103-a5f96cc83f71_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A great man. Yes we owe him a great deal :-( _________________________________________________________________ Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. =20 http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=3DT010MSN07A0716U= --_00fea758-9917-4486-a103-a5f96cc83f71_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A great man. Yes we owe him a great deal :-(



Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks=2C emotico= ns=2C display pics=2C and more. Get Them Now = --_00fea758-9917-4486-a103-a5f96cc83f71_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 18:40:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC63D3BE6F; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UTwtOCyvhCNHbnbqLb+vA9QGsq4IDFOllwNShk+4sPY=; b=C2CCl/KensoUdV1Pno+cQjgAiqZvrmWJjf7d0LJ8mAFROa+JCpqdv1x3B/PUeGSG63 TFxxOBH33liSukHAwBs3JKjbcezZ2nK3DT33iJpn8q8ia6B6HLKu9TJK6f570aE8dJip t7jED7qaGMKAic/OZnuuTYjXk7z7L7Brc5cxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uzqiZllFDXHZyV2EUNrutD+Jc8wvkER4iOMHnW61n9rTTkINrb8HzYptVp5lHaYTso Vy53pJm/T7OTtuiLSyRkYeD/C9eWzYBzgboyRYaKcdM6R8T/58t6BeXIT+kRypofOnIp I+yN2St2h0L5pl05d5WNGUKEyDM494kdLZzoY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:40:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Re: Eno on composing in the studio From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636eee2b6dc14e604710a4635 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:40:59 +0000 (UTC) --001636eee2b6dc14e604710a4635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Clint, The track Eno's referring to is "Patrolling Wire Borders", a very short, slowed down remix of "Sky Saw". Maybe "Major Groove" was a working title or something, but in all the releases of "Music For Films" I've owned that's what it was called. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Clint Allen wrote: > Eno references "A Major Groove" as being a track on "Music For Films" but I > don't find this track on the original or re-issue releases. Does anyone know > where this track exists? I love Skysaw and would be very interested to hear > a variation on it. > Clint Allen > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sylvain Poitras < > sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A bit dated, but still interesting read. >> >> http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm >> >> Sylvain >> >> > > > -- > Clint E. Allen > * Technology Consultant > * Sound Engineering > --001636eee2b6dc14e604710a4635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Clint,
The track Eno's referring to is "Patrolling Wire Bor= ders", a very short, slowed down remix of "Sky Saw". Maybe &= quot;Major Groove" was a working title or something, but in all the re= leases of "Music For Films" I've owned that's what it was= called.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Clint Allen= <clint.allen= @gmail.com> wrote:
Eno references "A Major Groove" as being a track on "Mu= sic For Films" but I don't find this track on the original or re-i= ssue releases. Does anyone know where this track exists? I love Skysaw and = would be very interested to hear a variation on it.
Clint Allen
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sylvain Poitra= s <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
A bit dated, but = still interesting read.

http://music.hyper= real.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm

Sylvain




--
Clint E. Allen
* Technology Consultant
* Sound = Engineering

--001636eee2b6dc14e604710a4635-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 20:13:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D6C63BE75; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I6+8mtPker9Jwyshb8UQCEnZM/13ikjh1lkbsPH9wkQ=; b=WyHFQJnlfqb6ik8hQWQRaAk7YC/6Q7++6CGRCSIQ8UmbOj+CZOBWNG1kLrrCQA8rKg 9WVdK/eIxYv5aA5r7jAxd4JUkTXyJqFaV5NNVA0U6YdtULaxNefYdBHXuzDKHFh7xtGQ xqkx45/gPT9az0nfQzxrE4dh/WD6uYas2c/aY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AKvX4G3Yrgzls6MbcQd81vdNoX5WlseUMnaDeJuiMQGlZ3g0i7GU31vM+CWEsck1rn uLX+V2wSnohNu1l62Gco0W+eqEddwqC5qBRC802B7Go2ODX1UwMiKiEtNnisw3LmqBVB OHRZ1POgTRGsXeiXyVcsqnEA6tEX6xznhT/yQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:05:29 -0400 Message-ID: <2fb9e4730908131305k7ece8005l5e798804bae737cd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Re: Eno on composing in the studio From: Clint Allen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646bca8120ba404710b759d Resent-Message-ID: <465u_C.A.jHG.0PHhKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:13:40 +0000 (UTC) --00163646bca8120ba404710b759d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slowed remix. Thanks Michael! Clint On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Michael Billow wrote: > Hey Clint, > The track Eno's referring to is "Patrolling Wire Borders", a very short, > slowed down remix of "Sky Saw". Maybe "Major Groove" was a working title or > something, but in all the releases of "Music For Films" I've owned that's > what it was called. > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Clint Allen wrote: > >> Eno references "A Major Groove" as being a track on "Music For Films" but >> I don't find this track on the original or re-issue releases. Does anyone >> know where this track exists? I love Skysaw and would be very interested to >> hear a variation on it. >> Clint Allen >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sylvain Poitras < >> sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A bit dated, but still interesting read. >>> >>> http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm >>> >>> Sylvain >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Clint E. Allen >> * Technology Consultant >> * Sound Engineering >> > > -- Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering --00163646bca8120ba404710b759d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slow= ed remix. Thanks Michael!
=A0
Clint

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Michael Billow = <mbillow@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Hey Clint,
The track Eno'= s referring to is "Patrolling Wire Borders", a very short, slowed= down remix of "Sky Saw". Maybe "Major Groove" was a wo= rking title or something, but in all the releases of "Music For Films&= quot; I've owned that's what it was called.=20


On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Clint Allen <clint.allen@gmail.com> wrote:
Eno references "A Major Groove" as being a track on "Mu= sic For Films" but I don't find this track on the original or re-i= ssue releases. Does anyone know where this track exists? I love Skysaw and = would be very interested to hear a variation on it.
Clint Allen
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sylvain Poitra= s <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
A bit dated, but sti= ll interesting read.

http://music.hyperrea= l.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm

Sylvain




--
Clint E. Allen
* Technology Consultant
* Sound = Engineering




--
Clint E. Allen
* Technology Consultant
* Sound = Engineering
--00163646bca8120ba404710b759d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 20:31:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78B7A3BE73; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <2fb9e4730908131305k7ece8005l5e798804bae737cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> <2fb9e4730908131305k7ece8005l5e798804bae737cd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--842120314 Message-Id: <19C13BC3-5B34-4214-9A74-78B58E9C225F@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: Re: Eno on composing in the studio / biography Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:31:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:31:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--842120314 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I know I have mentioned this book before, but MANY answers to some Eno "mysteries" can be found be in his excellent biography, "On Some Faraway Beach" by David Sheppard. (2008) Highly REVcommended reading! I also have a copy of "Brian Eno, His Music and the Vertical Color of Sound" by Eric Tamm (1995) that I will soon be reading... Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ PS Dept.- ...after I finish "The Philosophy of Stanley Kubrick" which I am currently reading and is truly a very "deep" study of various philosophies and how they relate to the films of SK. Definitely not some "light hearted" reading! Can hardly wait to read how "Heeeeeeere's Johnny!!" is philosophically "explained". :-) On Aug 13, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Clint Allen wrote: > Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a > slowed remix. Thanks Michael! > > Clint > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Michael Billow > wrote: > Hey Clint, > The track Eno's referring to is "Patrolling Wire Borders", a very > short, slowed down remix of "Sky Saw". Maybe "Major Groove" was a > working title or something, but in all the releases of "Music For > Films" I've owned that's what it was called. > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Clint Allen > wrote: > Eno references "A Major Groove" as being a track on "Music For > Films" but I don't find this track on the original or re-issue > releases. Does anyone know where this track exists? I love Skysaw > and would be very interested to hear a variation on it. > Clint Allen > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: > A bit dated, but still interesting read. > > http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/downbeat79.htm --Apple-Mail-1--842120314 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I know I have mentioned this book before, but MANY answers to some Eno = "mysteries" can be found be in his excellent biography, "On Some = Faraway Beach" by David Sheppard. (2008)  Highly REVcommended = reading!  I also have a copy of "Brian Eno, His Music and the = Vertical Color of Sound" by Eric Tamm (1995) that I will soon be = reading...

Cheers,
PS = Dept.-

...after I finish "The Philosophy of = Stanley Kubrick" which I am currently reading and is truly a very "deep" = study of various philosophies and how they relate to the films of = SK.
Definitely not some "light hearted" = ;reading!  Can hardly wait to read how "Heeeeeeere's Johnny!!" = is philosophically "explained". :-)

On Aug = 13, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Clint Allen wrote:

Ha! = This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slowed remix. = Thanks Michael!
 
Clint

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Michael Billow = <mbillow@gmail.com> = wrote:
Hey = Clint,
The track Eno's referring to is "Patrolling Wire Borders", a = very short, slowed down remix of "Sky Saw". Maybe "Major Groove" was a = working title or something, but in all the releases of "Music For Films" = I've owned that's what it was called.


On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at = 8:15 AM, Clint Allen <clint.allen@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Eno = references "A Major Groove" as being a track on "Music For Films" but I = don't find this track on the original or re-issue releases. Does anyone = know where this track exists? I love Skysaw and would be very interested = to hear a variation on it.
Clint Allen
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sylvain Poitras = <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
=
A bit dated, = but still interesting read.

http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/= downbeat79.htm

= --Apple-Mail-1--842120314-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 21:50:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 274E13BE75; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=ToPSAvQw2cpQB4U1vc8A:9 a=AsxMErKoukrK7FxQGDRGDlWf5DIA:4 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:50:49 -0700 References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:50:55 +0000 (UTC) OMG nooooo! I was still hoping against hope that I'd make it to NYC someday to see him play live. The world has lost a master. There's not another like him in the whole wide world. Sad, sad, sad . . . even at 94 I thought he'd go on forever. Sigh. On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Crap...no...we owe him so much. I'd been meaning for years to see > him play at his regular gig in NYC. > > http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8QPmtzAD9A23OFG0 > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com From apache@mail.indistream.net Thu Aug 13 23:37:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 16266 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:37:04 UTC Received: from mail.indistream.net (mail.indistream.net [65.175.113.100]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035F03BE46 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apache by mail.indistream.net with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Mbfn2-0003cU-Fh for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:16:44 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Notificazione! Message-ID: <1250191004.91959.qmail@monetaonline.it> From: "Intesa SanPaolo S.p.A." Content-Type: text/html

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Message-Id: From: User Apache Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:16:44 -0500 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 23:49:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA61F3BE73; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mNT8hHACZCkCRl/Oa16Wi35VNiuzmWNoMMTAEytazOU9XvVi4XugXeggf+aWzj8J; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <11976534.1250207388128.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:49:47 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd480d2f67394ee35100a682be3ca30833483d063210bc784f5e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:49:48 +0000 (UTC) gott to see the master here in sf back in the 90s @ the old waldorf. got to speak w/ him for awhile - me: 'how come you make the lps so heavy?' les- "didnt think they were" hell of a guy and musician will miss stan -----Original Message----- >From: tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn >Sent: Aug 13, 2009 5:50 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul > >OMG nooooo! > >I was still hoping against hope that I'd make it to NYC someday to see =20 >him play live. > >The world has lost a master. > >There's not another like him in the whole wide world. > >Sad, sad, sad . . . even at 94 I thought he'd go on forever. > >Sigh. > >On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> Crap...no...we owe him so much. I'd been meaning for years to see =20 >> him play at his regular gig in NYC. >> >> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8= QPmtzAD9A23OFG0 >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 23:52:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22FFE3BE73; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250207575; bh=TFl/MClM6vEzQdGSmwSUz09ti+YR2YH2EWoLc/B6FIQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bVbZvHY9kF3TQBafAHcKjgnAS85krzhlPzaFZooyzB42gYKTogC/c7MSNS8bue1Q/pI4wVEn/fLOV3LEXBGxXz0CEmWlrgnB5syTFgqF75l9mbVlXtyFMzKWs/o5uKHozlxWG0ansqzKRetJtUIS0ujEa2UDvdrCUfY8qYarT5Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5edc+tE/2hFrEcfcRGAnWadhdy8AOlrLAWmrIDVr22TMZPoe5HcPiUae1oGfIvTa6XEPl8G5cwkY0ABwmR7f9P8L0cOtQSggutDjNtLOHg2XMF1SIUs1/r683lkG8JrVAqduM9E3ge7p9SaQulutFWY7AGubJG6gtCHE6wXvANQ=; Message-ID: <896796.75228.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:52:55 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Thanx Raul!=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A-= -- Raul Bonell schrieb am Mi, 12.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von= : Raul Bonell =0A> Betreff: Re: Luis Angulo vocal lo= op video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 12. August 2009, 19:04=0A> i liked v= ery much, luis.=0A> =0A> versatile musician!=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> 2009/8/13, = Andr=E9 Donawa :=0A> > Hey Luis,=0A> >=0A> > Really = enjoyed this.=0A> > Love the different sounds you are getting.=0A> >=0A> > = I was wondering, are you using an external effects box=0A> or plugins?=0A> = >=0A> > Andre=0A> >=0A> > http://www.andredonawa.com=0A> > http://cdbaby.co= m/all/andredonawa=0A> > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa=0A> >=0A> >=0A> = >=0A> >=0A> >> On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:00 AM, L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>=0A> >>> = there it is=0A> >>>=0A> >>> http://www.vimeo.com/6053680=0A> >>>=0A> >>> en= joy=0A> >>> Luis=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulo= com=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A>= >=0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot= .com=0A> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com=0A> =0A> =0A= =0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 23:56:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 048EF3BE79; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250207790; bh=EvS38YKoo27Nwm7ASrf+FoglhHCo/IfVlUnJ2TerGMc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=J39sPYRqzBsQVGvCZv6/Ray/9BynYD7iT1wVpeYWVvrgTy/SfjPXX+6YccAeAMOKlDH9Ih2A/4/1xJDObV4V+/cKXhXxA4zh8yNliVtpM4mTLRy1IlN4TNboo9Vt8U66rk0OJ/4ZsNlx1GvMNVYtqw5EiDF5MvkuHa3zbeojFsg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B6W6TpUUUjvXkv2HrLKWCbaAKX9xhrAJVIKJ136FL6+7rWATP9y+4v34zri9+KJEYolMLFk/MEfN6QSi8sgUHSutEgwMXGdqbCEoZvqS2sN5qOR+9f4xqmVfHh2LcW5yd8KOqfLVhFlcaz4JYVxTCqInPU/uTFdQTIy/8DYalIo=; Message-ID: <774529.28021.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:56:30 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <28030.65.48.1250128492.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andr=E9=0Athank you kindly man,im using the Digitech vocalist live,nice = unit though a pitty that it doesnt have tap tempo...the new TC voice live s= eems pretty nice too bad it was there when i bought this one seems to have = all i was looking for in a vocal unit...=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0Awww.myspace.c= om/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Andr=E9 Donawa schrieb= am Mi, 12.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Andr=E9 Donawa =0A> B= etreff: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop = festival=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch,= 12. August 2009, 18:54=0A> Hey Luis,=0A> =0A> Really enjoyed this.=0A> Lov= e the different sounds you are getting.=0A> =0A> I was wondering, are you u= sing an external effects box or=0A> plugins?=0A> =0A> Andre=0A> =0A> http:/= /www.andredonawa.com=0A> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa=0A> http://www.m= yspace.com/andredonawa=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> > On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:00 A= M, L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >=0A> >> there it is=0A> >>=0A> >> http://www.vimeo.= com/6053680=0A> >>=0A> >> enjoy=0A> >> Luis=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >> www= .myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 23:59:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 210963BE71; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250207947; bh=ZuqVDbSXtfbWhwUqKQhNcAHBGEY1GsEYdOkHv7Zs5RI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B8Xc2B/9ytR/8QBjrkGcOPdAhP8JIjXkDpo+YFJP2ilv2Zl/zugzJsNuvdvTbwW9FwgPQWWKl+7zX1qWzM0LAdPApSE9D2UbDwfCS2WhOG0k8b4YPR7BPocdAC41mRlR83GKjHMcfZYpVa1xWEJxqvW6/YwR1KyV5hwbWkOqsYQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6GzbayowRkOF1xCwqpFpSd+CiUx+SY0LMiOh7Gp77l0Sgrknwno4XoJR2XbYni8qfW67t0k+3zEwQ3dpaSjLNueB1+P82WIH1gDXDQRfnugB3rGOwkx/r6Jw/0xI64nMXeudmyxv3WiZT2swll/L4VgKQFOWQuM6fId1YEskXXc=; Message-ID: <17913.29527.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:59:06 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Cheers Ted many thanx,i hope to see you in europe on of this days!=0A=0Awww= .myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- tEd =AE KiLLiAn schrieb am Mi, 12.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: tEd =AE KiLLiAn =0A> Betreff: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp= Y2K9 Loop festival=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: = Mittwoch, 12. August 2009, 7:14=0A> I did enjoy it Luis.=0A> =0A> Many than= ks.=0A> =0A> On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:00 AM, L.Angulo wrote:=0A> =0A> > there = it is=0A> >=0A> > http://www.vimeo.com/6053680=0A> >=0A> > enjoy=0A> > Luis= =0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A= > =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 13 23:59:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C77D3BE77; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7E742AADA462419595D1747C7972B8A2@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:00:24 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:59:50 +0000 (UTC) From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" > > The world has lost a master. I might prefer to think that the world GAINED a master in Les Paul... He certainly left a lot for us to fiddle with, too. Sad at his departure, but glad he stopped by on his journey. > On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >> Crap...no...we owe him so much. I'd been meaning for years to see him >> play at his regular gig in NYC. >> >> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBD78k8tewQ7FPeiKtJbK8QPmtzAD9A23OFG0 I caught him in Mahwah, NJ back in the summer of 1984 - at a frequently-renamed bar called McGillicuddy's on the northbound stretch of Route 17... this was local for him of course. Part-way through the show, he brought ol' Jimmy Dean up to the stage to sing a few songs with him (one of which I recall was a bit raunchy, a slight shock to someone who'd seen him on TV as a kid). He also demonstrated the Les Paulveriser towards the end of his set, and answered questions from We The Awestruck And Unworthy after the show. Really nice fellow too. Didn't rest on his laurels either. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 00:49:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E5A83BE71; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:49:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: , "'L.Angulo'" Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:49:30 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA1C3E.6BDD8470" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoceRTOA1+1drJ1TsqIe0VsPVO7JQ== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:49:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA1C3E.6BDD8470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Luis, that was really beautiful, I knew you were handsome and could play a mean guitar but I had no idea you where such a golden throat! Very nice Bill ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA1C3E.6BDD8470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Luis, that was really beautiful, I knew you = were handsome and could play a mean guitar but I had no idea you where such a golden = throat!

Very nice

 Bill

------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA1C3E.6BDD8470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 01:15:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DC943BE78; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RIP Les Paul Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:15:44 -0700 Message-ID: <9F63C17D4CB1491997EAE7E58CC16456@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA1C42.15FEF490" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcocfL8DGJqVZr7GQLiYRvrs0jURYg== Resent-Message-ID: <_d5b5.A.reC.GrLhKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:15:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA1C42.15FEF490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wanted to share an antidote about the great Les Paul. In his early days he had a dual career as Les Paul the jazz musician and under the pseudonym, Rhubarb Red as a country artist. When he was in the early stages of his career he approached the Larson brothers of Chicago about an endorsement. For those of you not familiar, Larson brothers guitars which often went by the name, Euphonon, Prairie state, Maurer, and Stahl, where every bit the rival to the best instruments from Martin and Gibson. Some collectors think they represent the pinnacle of early 20th century guitar making and today fetch ridiculous prices. http://www.larsonbrothersguitars.com/guitarpics.html So anyway, Les Paul approached the Larson brothers about an endorsement and they turned him down saying that they would not consider anyone unless they were as popular as Rhubarb Red !!!!!! , having no clue that Les and Rhubarb where the same guy. As you all know Les ended up going to Gibson and the rest as they say is history. Les Paul was an innovator in so many ways, perhaps the first person to use tape loops ( triggered from a device on his guitar) in a live performance and one of the true pioneers of multi track recording, a genius inventor and musician, who's influence on music, technology, and popular culture is enormous. Thanks for everything you gave us Les, yours was a life well lived. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA1C42.15FEF490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I wanted to share an antidote about the great Les = Paul. In his early days he had a dual career as Les Paul the jazz musician and = under the pseudonym, Rhubarb Red as a country artist.  When he was in the = early stages of his career he approached the Larson brothers of Chicago about an endorsement. For = those of you not familiar,  Larson brothers guitars which often went by the = name,  Euphonon, Prairie state, Maurer, and Stahl, where every bit the rival to the best instruments from Martin and Gibson. Some collectors think they represent = the pinnacle of early 20th century guitar making and today fetch = ridiculous prices. http://www.= larsonbrothersguitars.com/guitarpics.html

 So anyway, Les Paul approached the Larson = brothers about an endorsement and they turned him down saying that they would not consider anyone unless they were as popular as Rhubarb Red !!!!!! , = having no clue that Les and Rhubarb where the same guy. As you all know Les ended = up going to Gibson and the rest as they say is = history.

 Les Paul was an innovator in so many ways, = perhaps the first person to use tape loops ( triggered from a device on his guitar) = in a live performance and one of the true pioneers of multi track recording, = a genius inventor and musician, who’s influence on music, = technology,  and popular culture is enormous.

 Thanks for everything you gave us Les, yours = was a life well lived.

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA1C42.15FEF490-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 02:48:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE9E03BE71; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 671 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:48:07 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c672777b-e420-448d-993e-b416a14e32ac_" X-Originating-IP: [67.33.163.131] From: brian walton To: Subject: For sale: Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro (EDP+) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:36:55 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2009 02:36:55.0094 (UTC) FILETIME=[166E5560:01CA1C88] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:48:07 +0000 (UTC) --_c672777b-e420-448d-993e-b416a14e32ac_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone=2C It has been a few years since I've posted here (don't worry I'm still l= ooping). But the time has come to sell my prized EDP+ and I thought someone here mig= ht like to know. =20 http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D588852 I'd like to sell this in the US. =20 Thanks for looking. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=3D0809TL-HM= --_c672777b-e420-448d-993e-b416a14e32ac_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone=2C
 =3B =3B =3B It has been a few years since I'= ve posted here (don't worry I'm still looping).

But the time has com= e to sell my prized EDP+ and I thought someone here might like to know.&nbs= p=3B

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D588852
=
I'd like to sell this in the US. =3B

Thanks for looking.
Brian

Get your vacation photos on your phone! Click here. = --_c672777b-e420-448d-993e-b416a14e32ac_-- From info@banking.it Fri Aug 14 04:16:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1640 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:16:07 UTC Received: from admin.easysmtp.co.uk (admin.easysmtp.co.uk [194.36.163.41]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F313BE46; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from support (adsl-ull-99-172.47-151.net24.it [151.47.172.99]) by admin.easysmtp.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A72300B8; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:48:22 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "Banca Popolare di Milano" Subject: Caro cliente Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05.48.25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081 Message-Id: <20090814034823.11A72300B8@admin.easysmtp.co.uk> To: undisclosed-recipients:;

s1

  Caro cliente, 
   
  Nell'ambito di un progetto di verifica dei dati anagrafici forniti durante
  la sottoscrizione dei servizi di Banca Popolare di Milano e stata riscontrata
  una incongruenza relativa ai dati anagrafici in oggetto da Lei forniti all
  momento della sottoscrizine contrattuale.
 
  L'inserimento dei dati alterati puo costituire motivo di interruzione di
  servizio secondo gli art. 135 e 137/c da Lei accettati al momento della
  sottoscrizione, oltre a costituire reato penalmente perseguibile secondo    
  il C.P.P. ar. 415 del 2001 relativa alla legge contro il riciclaggio e la
  trasparenza dei dati forniti in auto certificazione.
 
  Per ovviare al problema e necessaria la verifica e l'aggiornamento dei dati
  relativi all'anagrafica dell'Intestatario dei servizi Banca Popolare di Milano.
  Effettuare l'aggiornamento dei dati cliccando sul seguente collegamento
  sicuro:      

  
  https://www.bpmbanking.it/pub/xbank/home.do     


 
  Cordiali saluti,
                      
  Banca Popolare di Milano Società Cooperativa
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 04:22:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 695183BE81; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=oA74hieQvdODOMDUmPLu0n0O4eLoYcfolkfGnLHU4/w=; b=NT6LCIaFzvqYj/87GsnlUZmSIbMibLTSQIUao77h9f1MZ8x+y9GicaOAUDawG2svx8 yC4dJhguCgpYjve4aW90iDPbmtkvMHasZwMj/+rUBIQGt7Olz0ZYEWOu44ZthZEi2PEX xCfgEPxbrjFS/jSjSxrJH0RmU6X0gFhLf3o6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=YkkGdvK6QHlawNw1OvjGwy3fSMdjAIwxYdt3K4ZFgAcw8ZmBbV9qn/kQkGxh72HgWO RaaL9H++vqJ7zfcJDg9n9eDA7/59NeGtXA9kqmdFYbAt7K2aUxqn4mHCpFhz4mqsLTIK p948kVQdiTRlZpwVXsFrESEPMWWIj8HXUIlh4= From: "Tony K" To: References: <9F63C17D4CB1491997EAE7E58CC16456@williamsteed> In-Reply-To: <9F63C17D4CB1491997EAE7E58CC16456@williamsteed> Subject: RE: RIP Les Paul Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:22:43 -0400 Message-ID: <000001ca1c96$df12e4f0$9d38aed0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CA1C75.580144F0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcocfL8DGJqVZr7GQLiYRvrs0jURYgAGgUFA Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:22:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CA1C75.580144F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's Les playing his looper. The Les Pulverizer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXSXOAfB4U Tony From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RIP Les Paul I wanted to share an antidote about the great Les Paul. In his early days he had a dual career as Les Paul the jazz musician and under the pseudonym, Rhubarb Red as a country artist. When he was in the early stages of his career he approached the Larson brothers of Chicago about an endorsement. For those of you not familiar, Larson brothers guitars which often went by the name, Euphonon, Prairie state, Maurer, and Stahl, where every bit the rival to the best instruments from Martin and Gibson. Some collectors think they represent the pinnacle of early 20th century guitar making and today fetch ridiculous prices. http://www.larsonbrothersguitars.com/guitarpics.html So anyway, Les Paul approached the Larson brothers about an endorsement and they turned him down saying that they would not consider anyone unless they were as popular as Rhubarb Red !!!!!! , having no clue that Les and Rhubarb where the same guy. As you all know Les ended up going to Gibson and the rest as they say is history. Les Paul was an innovator in so many ways, perhaps the first person to use tape loops ( triggered from a device on his guitar) in a live performance and one of the true pioneers of multi track recording, a genius inventor and musician, who's influence on music, technology, and popular culture is enormous. Thanks for everything you gave us Les, yours was a life well lived. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CA1C75.580144F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here’s Les playing his looper.  The Les = Pulverizer.

 

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DfoXSXOAfB4U

 

Tony

 

From:= William = Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:16 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RIP Les Paul

 

I wanted to share an antidote about the great Les Paul. In his early days = he had a dual career as Les Paul the jazz musician and under the pseudonym, = Rhubarb Red as a country artist.  When he was in the early stages of his = career he approached the Larson brothers of Chicago about an endorsement. For = those of you not familiar,  Larson brothers guitars which often went by the = name,  Euphonon, Prairie state, Maurer, and Stahl, where every bit the = rival to the best instruments from Martin and Gibson. Some collectors think they represent the pinnacle of early 20th century guitar making = and today fetch ridiculous prices. http://www.= larsonbrothersguitars.com/guitarpics.html

 So anyway, Les Paul approached the Larson brothers about an endorsement and = they turned him down saying that they would not consider anyone unless they = were as popular as Rhubarb Red !!!!!! , having no clue that Les and Rhubarb = where the same guy. As you all know Les ended up going to Gibson and the rest as = they say is history.

 Les Paul was an innovator in so many ways, perhaps the first person to use = tape loops ( triggered from a device on his guitar) in a live performance and = one of the true pioneers of multi track recording, a genius inventor and = musician, who’s influence on music, technology,  and popular culture is = enormous.

 Thanks for everything you gave us Les, yours was a life well = lived.

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CA1C75.580144F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 04:29:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBE9B3BE7F; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/RO+XQKH6rsySyTxKYRY//RxlGSdT6SUnji3IXzcTkY=; b=gLCtOs/7mdqRgjUIQdxDlDtTjwjM1mSQrb4/R7H/qfYbVTJFTPNmKrx8sYHcYCYWm6 KWD73A2YPf5mWfDxvLkKNpUzeq7ekX9igqxVyQDXpJNKVSMsNOPNYUd2mu63xKQeVdvf j5XkZ1gtlxcdgvYu8xawbKqio3ZFmy4bnINJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=RuuGuEVNC3tFIUGkNr6dHH2t8JmbknoEKSLiH9ZMwIy20ec1sgu2S+gwTfHRjfc9Qr W7PeRg+HmaqsM0E1ybM9HlK1Qlbw9GCzybtJkjyawrkoYEKia6DGmY5Z9thkLWGKot71 XpsYNq/Z4Nu+wB/98s4RgWehjHlXlZKzh73hs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:29:20 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908132129k30fb2e34m83bbe99357114773@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Modern Frippertronics: Sleeping Me "Lamenter" From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:29:20 +0000 (UTC) I'm really digging Sleeping Me "Lamenter" All guitar. and it's free : ) http://www.last.fm/label/Phantom+Channel/journal/2009/07/30/2wl0ug_sleeping_me_-_%27lamenter%27_(phch010)_--_free_download_@_the_phantom_channel_label -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 08:32:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D77F93BE73; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 246196121/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.214.38/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.214.38 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsABAKO9hEpPRtYm/2dsb2JhbAAIkz2ua5BdhBkFijA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,379,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="246196121" Message-ID: <4A85212C.5010101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:32:44 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul References: <9F63C17D4CB1491997EAE7E58CC16456@williamsteed> <000001ca1c96$df12e4f0$9d38aed0$@com> In-Reply-To: <000001ca1c96$df12e4f0$9d38aed0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:32:47 +0000 (UTC) without meaning disrespect, the "Les Pulveriser" was a high quality cassette deck controlled by a pause button on the guitar. The tapes were recorded prior to the show. (watch again...it's true) andy Tony K wrote: > Here’s Les playing his looper. The Les Pulverizer. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXSXOAfB4U > Bill:- > Les Paul was an innovator in so many ways, perhaps the first person to > use tape loops ( triggered from a device on his guitar) in a live From worldbankgroup@worldbank.co.uk Fri Aug 14 09:22:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 50983 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:22:20 UTC Received: from mail.ihsdist.com (mail.ihsdist.com [64.149.129.190]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085383BE46; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([70.46.54.226]) by mail.ihsdist.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:57:49 -0400 Reply-To: From: "World Bank" Subject: PAYMENT APPROVAL FROM WORLD BANK LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 09:46:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F20673BE73; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <9F63C17D4CB1491997EAE7E58CC16456@williamsteed> <000001ca1c96$df12e4f0$9d38aed0$@com> <4A85212C.5010101@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:46:43 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <28FkFD.A.u9E.NKThKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Telegraph UK: http://tinyurl.com/lgpoof From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 10:28:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C53C3BE77; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250245691; bh=MSAQIou3xXrlssGhiEQDBM4Vi4GJUnJYQ5lrJfU+4U4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RUhN/M2t/INbii+W58DB10UdrTFAFyrjd4yAvclVdG5R+70tvogb7ZVO3na7obXNyn1+kcFFCNRunRUxaXe1sm5dEk0qGVv3a/AKvUL1N9we59aU8xW6GuounXRnaA7HIgl7CP36c3gtbBfWeNl3rr0gobTu9HX0M/lhoY9xzKE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wTQMy0deJALVW+Xtl7HQ2uSsLr56GBeb7g6eTcEOlqbCNH5s8wEhmkB8DFCiN0r9RjBmWn2BCTcYp0QK/T5OdKjh50jrrvVOWl0Y+6hMkiEfXFvZN2V7I88F3MlQI7aalMm3N+/QJ7aUgzT1bAOR+Fd5Q9rRuDsGqTrEuDCgHmI=; Message-ID: <919016.78555.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:28:11 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, billwalker@baymoon.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4tD_WC.A.jMG.9wThKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:28:13 +0000 (UTC) thanx brother,i had to start singing out of neccesity and never considered = myself one,in this gig however the good belgian beer helped my vocal chords= try it maybe you are a singer too and dont even know it!=0A=0Awww.myspace.= com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- William Walker schri= eb am Do, 13.8.2009:=0A=0A> Von: William Walker =0A= > Betreff: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop = festival=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, "'L.Angulo'" =0A> Datum: Donnerstag, 13. August 2009, 17:49=0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =A0Luis= , that=0A> was really beautiful, I knew you were handsome=0A> and could pla= y a mean guitar but I had no idea you where=0A> such a golden throat! =0A> = =0A> Very=0A> nice =0A> =0A> =A0Bill=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 11:09:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAE923BE78; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250248194; bh=z+4jlh6T4elt8whVuoxPXCaYFP/LBTf0KfDesaOd/1g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aHsQWWhvRdUk5h5cnSS2osRASV035yE+2pHlVSWgvnqf00eUhc4IEJuLuG8FBgIums9YVL6q9gnZajJCHvZV+48qeDP++TfCq80dmVMI4GC7NulSua4DZJJ3A8Fw0rqwB9EQ9INwWzC5epjh2LLvrPplC40LTbZGNdqUhlnInEk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bS27TEYRmGaVhvOm6VYzBHIQd3ejxqC7ij3pR8cLl8PZeEzWUcliq6pktap2zG4lk2dQeunYGGrVEnw/UUtZGP8h3J+PitUOO52cdtbvJBDYM/X4jmPUhJeA5X7mJsRCc4klT7jkzDXEMjeff+nDFHt4qkLBSPgRyDCz+eY+SSk=; Message-ID: <397766.10396.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:09:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Looping Festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A83BA3E.9090307@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:09:55 +0000 (UTC) thanx bro for the kind words,i have to say that this festivals have been ve= ry inspiring and had made me grow more within this genre so once again than= k you all of you who are doing everything to keep this in motion=0Aive also= been watching and listening to performances from you,Dirk,Darkroom,Sjaak,F= abio,Michael Peters and the others and there is something very unique and d= ifferent from each other and fascinating to see how every body approaches t= his form of music making.=0Aloop on=0ALuis=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom= =0A=0A=0A--- Rick Walker schrieb am Do, 13.8.2009:=0A= =0A> Von: Rick Walker =0A> Betreff: Re: Luis Angulo v= ocal loop video live at the Antwerp Looping Festival=0A> An: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Donnerstag, 13. August 2009, 0:01=0A> Yeah= ,=A0 I agree with everyone's=0A> praise of Luis' performance in Antwerp.=0A= > =0A> I've always thought of Luis as one of the most soulful=0A> musicians= in our extended=0A> family and I just love his voice.=0A> =0A> It's not li= ve looping, but go find his self produced/self=0A> played Latin pop/rock=0A= > tunes on the web.=A0 They are really beautiful.=0A> =0A> He's always insp= iring to me, personally and musically,=0A> =0A> Rick=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 13:24:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11EFC3BE71; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_03d1521b-db9b-491c-bab2-cd19e55d3d96_" X-Originating-IP: [68.157.175.106] From: brian walton To: Subject: For Sale Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro (EDP+) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:18:35 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2009 13:18:34.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA227480:01CA1CE1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:23:59 +0000 (UTC) --_03d1521b-db9b-491c-bab2-cd19e55d3d96_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again Everyone=2C I realized that you need to sign up for "the Gear Page" to view my lis= ting. So for those of you who do not have an account: I have the following for sale: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus - virtually like new=2C home studio use only. The main unit is in the same condition I bought it new in (one minor "scuff" on top right above the "a" in digital)=2C the foot controller has seen very light use. Comes with original box=2C manual=2C foot controller= =2C power cord=2C warranty paper. This is the most recent version with version IV software and max memory. More pictures available to serious inquiries upon request. $700 shipped with tracking and insurance.=20 Moog MURF MF-105B- new condition. Purchased less than 2 months ago (long enough that I can't return it). Plugged it in once in my studio to try it out. Designed for Bass players but as Moog indicates on their site=2C this also works well for guitar players (who are looking for a darker sound). I will provide the receipt=2C so you can fill out the warranty card in your name. Comes with original Box=2C Adapter=2C manual=2C etc... $245 shipped and insured.=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DPID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR= _sync:082009= --_03d1521b-db9b-491c-bab2-cd19e55d3d96_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again Everyone=2C
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Echoplex Digital Pro Plus - virtually like new=2C home studio use only. The main unit is in the same condition I bought it new in (one minor "scuff" on top right above the "a" in digital)=2C the foot controller has seen very light use. Comes with original box=2C manual=2C foot controller= =2C power cord=2C warranty paper. This is the most recent version with version IV software and max memory. More pictures available to serious inquiries upon request. $700 shipped with tracking and insurance.

Moog MURF MF-105B- new condition. Purchased less than 2 months ago (long enough that I can't return it). Plugged it in once in my studio to try it out. Designed for Bass players but as Moog indicates on their site=2C this also works well for guitar players (who are looking for a darker sound). I will provide the receipt=2C so you can fill out the warranty card in your name. Comes with original Box=2C Adapter=2C manual=2C etc... $245 shipped and insured.



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Check it out. = --_03d1521b-db9b-491c-bab2-cd19e55d3d96_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 13:37:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50C613BE7F; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=biJMAFb1vCIiFFJ4mo+7tjzZ0wRoToUS4Fs+uccIXJw=; b=uoCdC0YpSVyvNpZxZk0wpVKy9ZsXk2J2oVYD4nDzDjjWCh2Gu8wh4werssksLhXOpf Ekgi63GO8+lLorKUYQaGXAgemP0SqoSu+sxbbg2kDB+D6pc6gnApwhqFHiiJBHxNuzBE W2wBnvYa62CEsPKfgz5XDOlLNfIT0MIyYuPGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vzdauL7yyOj3seREv80ydKj1fzaWD2gZWQ6d4WC0gu7Cec3PSKuJ/4PBbzpcUsyIhr 4qkdNm5KKhlDbnisAIt6v5u/ytleqp6giFNGQjLoOelwAxlgUBmlePydMDp7N9dSkY08 UBQt6i7HA62OWJv23/yDc4fp7H4qNOnGLB0hw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A85212C.5010101@tiscali.co.uk> References: <9F63C17D4CB1491997EAE7E58CC16456@williamsteed> <000001ca1c96$df12e4f0$9d38aed0$@com> <4A85212C.5010101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:37:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Sneaky! On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:32 AM, andy butler wrote: > without meaning disrespect, > > the "Les Pulveriser" was a high quality cassette deck controlled > by a pause button on the guitar. > The tapes were recorded prior to the show. (watch again...it's true) > > andy > > Tony K wrote: >> >> Here=92s Les playing his looper. =A0The Les Pulverizer. >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfoXSXOAfB4U >> > Bill:- >> >> =A0Les Paul was an innovator in so many ways, perhaps the first person t= o >> use tape loops ( triggered from a device on his guitar) in a live > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 13:43:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26DF83BE7C; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=6hti9kupNkstRDuFVaw2O9S2aHfxEo9bCMJcCHfj6ow=; b=TdfLVMN8mnSUe1CQSEsacvcwoJzKWw5lg1I7x5js099kH8O7XylMvNFdefHfi8pPQK 8EjgChsTQSIHeOSW8kTquJyVwIXLgQALgTwmxwsaBoPEszyPprq33XBUxNxnEnFKAB0U 7lCvtWwoOg6LWSVKYo+A6mkBXIxXN+ZuXwPCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=WaiZQGf0y/IyHM9qg4SIIkTDiyLgwMAnghFIZ794jJ35USLERLPN7iaFrvYfIjbrco M6mCv3iPuQAcmOVa98nEomFI/7/tOPvPfLGrwxCJrqzK1geMec8Z45S7jqmzuMzn5A8+ kzSMbyELvCWPebKHThjCtq5Jb3d8Gi8F+77gc= Message-ID: <001201ca1ce5$38b9f540$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9F63C17D4CB1491997EAE7E58CC16456@williamsteed> <000001ca1c96$df12e4f0$9d38aed0$@com> <4A85212C.5010101@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:43:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:43:42 +0000 (UTC) > Telegraph UK: > http://tinyurl.com/lgpoof Thanks Stephen, According to that the Les Paulverizer was a a "backstage electronics system controlled from a black box attached to his guitar". It goes on to say "In later life he continued to tinker with the Les Paulveriser to reduce its weight from 1,100lb to a more manageable 100lb. The design has always remained a secret." I Googled "Les Paulverizer" and got lots of pics, some we use today, http://tinyurl.com/p7mdgg which led me to this cool page: http://www.les-paul-guitar.com/les_paulverizer I wonder how different it would be or even if this list would exist without him. :) just wondering aloud.. It seems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing together. Anyone else seen or have info on that? best, Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Goodman" To: Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:46 AM Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul > Telegraph UK: > http://tinyurl.com/lgpoof > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 14:12:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB2AC3BE7C; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:12:48 UTC Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:04:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1514680250.83681250258681661.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <001201ca1ce5$38b9f540$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3953_1841246870.1250258681660" X-Originating-IP: [170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:12:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3953_1841246870.1250258681660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do remember it! They played Chicken Shack Blues, as I recall, and Les tried to yank the cord out of Jeff's guitar after he unleashed a particularly dazzling riff. Jeff had the cord firmly duct taped into the guitar though, and they both had a laugh. Other details are hazy, it having been many years ago when I saw it, but I think it was on some concert series on American TV. Les was a special guest, got to invite whoever he wanted on to play with and picked Jeff Beck Chris >It seems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing together. >Anyone else seen or have info on that? ------=_Part_3953_1841246870.1250258681660 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I do remember it!  They played Chicken Shack Blues, as I recall, and Les tried to yank the cord out of Jeff's guitar after he unleashed a particularly dazzling riff.  Jeff had the cord firmly duct taped into the guitar though, and they both had a laugh.

Other details are hazy, it having been many years ago when I saw it, but I think it was on some concert series on American TV.  Les was a special guest,  got to invite whoever he wanted on to play with and picked Jeff Beck

Chris

>It seems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing together.
>Anyone else seen or have info on that?


------=_Part_3953_1841246870.1250258681660-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 14:13:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90C433BE87; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:13:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <291935340.88041250259231957.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <001201ca1ce5$38b9f540$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4162_2139194167.1250259231956" X-Originating-IP: [170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:13:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4162_2139194167.1250259231956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey! Here it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrC_oqWq2pU >It seems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing together. >Anyone else seen or have info on that? ------=_Part_4162_2139194167.1250259231956 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hey!  Here it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrC_oqWq2pU

>It seems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing together.
>Anyone else seen or have info on that?


------=_Part_4162_2139194167.1250259231956-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 15:16:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 405273BE8E; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/gMVDKG06j4CAJPp9LmUw9ZSqROVR6oTD6OW6hctcFQ=; b=dPyg/UNU4OialglIZ9oc+Fa2JBVErw8SRoqW68pZb6QcKskq4tMh/1r2LLbN4OdozL nxq4jdDPpuFAmwZdO7k2M8yBO3OXn/P1JSmdwZOCug+T94WH6NBMrpcKZ7H6NIntad1K ycsF2iPPDGWt3yz9kUlJelJBXPVU6MUBMdwFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bt26J16nMhkJrLrC6qZC+dikTOFthErgOAzt+VDCLPB7unQUkePgYTbSQCfidDOrJv 4oPyQZMvAb3DwcLg4gY/Q0tq2yy3NATHCiY5ZDl7seUlSZrPwhM7A17gNRF9EH6UnDA4 pKrnEeEdiPwvTmgIts6LxqETJvOL0UNHcp8IM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001201ca1ce5$38b9f540$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9F63C17D4CB1491997EAE7E58CC16456@williamsteed> <000001ca1c96$df12e4f0$9d38aed0$@com> <4A85212C.5010101@tiscali.co.uk> <001201ca1ce5$38b9f540$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:16:27 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fecb31ef56387162 Message-ID: <101191640908140816v2dcd75c9t6505f4f7c69df534@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:16:28 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > I wonder how different it would be or even if this list would exist without > him. :) just wondering aloud.. > I wonder how different 20th century popular music would be without Les! What a guy! I had the extreme good fortune to have a 2-hour phone conversation with Les as part of my first feature article for GP a hundred years ago, a feature/interview piece. It was very kind of him to talk to a nobody like me for so long. Quite a character, as I'm sure everyone here is aware. His only complaint about the final article? I called him *one* of the greatest guitarists of the the century. :-) -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 15:51:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 769C23BE99; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=JdOkuL75fBbV+dEoMYNIBQRXC8+l95+cqAV8TyfZIJo=; b=VbXf6As54ELqyyVEqKW3OFoX4eVEDnqCiiaeFKko9DUfkN3kV4K3oBzln2B2I30qgl MM8/fUMRneMQ7wNhNZBQdZyF3fkAHAcQkzoCVC3jAAhleBRGyng5dKaAdMqItwBW5vqr rJZIww3tGpxuWU5cnvpaU1bW/fEvfMi/QRxhc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=O1x6nOVCNzdI7sOnhi6Hqa0H1glvjSRO+wtSSHheUBmaO4XsQ7qfppYrO8oI7RI7Is FD1RsSULfQeyN5ClKNdg5X2CRYdl0LKEHP0b5Nb1E5/z6r/lOpApzO9PAkUATJL4kmNw coEnXKy9zlpgIKm6jpBcGbqytPWdP7S7oqGTo= Message-ID: <001001ca1cf7$260d0dd0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <291935340.88041250259231957.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:51:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA1CD5.9E489890" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:51:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA1CD5.9E489890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's it! Thanks much. I love that when he unplugs Beck, what a hoot! J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Christophe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Hey! Here it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLrC_oqWq2pU >It seems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing = together.=20 >Anyone else seen or have info on that? ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA1CD5.9E489890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
That's it! Thanks much. I love = that when he=20 unplugs Beck, what a hoot!
 
J
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Christophe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 = 10:13=20 AM
Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul

Hey! =20 Here it is!

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DLrC_oqWq2pU

>It=20 seems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing together.=20
>Anyone else seen or have info on=20 that?


------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA1CD5.9E489890-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 17:05:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 976FC3BE92; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=FzKJ4dw96SPTtuR82CuiWTVsDV9L2TjY1Lzm7uuZDwsvan3cG34SvTR/aP1uDMg8; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7E742AADA462419595D1747C7972B8A2@eluk1> References: <2fb9e4730908130815o69244cf5gde9884ba6722740@mail.gmail.com> <4A843F71.4050909@mhorse.com> <7E742AADA462419595D1747C7972B8A2@eluk1> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:04:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec797e603cfb6d94e910242abee483dc46a1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Les Paul wrote the hysterical and lovely forward for "State Of the Axe" http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=9780300142112 -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 14 17:07:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6A13BE99; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 397 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:06:59 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 519240.94570.bm@omp412.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250269221; bh=/YwQqJ1pN+dDW2dJouFahuVjhc8883j7R++wWlQm5CA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XdAR7TJ92TfQnTwVliC4F/g01lMoZT3rH6rqv8QeR7CgXfCQBV7gff25+Blm2ugRDcFNhLLMFVHL+6s4m7vnCVVCFWNSdNrTUScK7UdLoXB4fVwaV2TSla2wULKJQbS10FFy0eihv4Kvw7KnDaQooK+I68C6cAUy47auBkv8+Bo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qyJ46zCXdEd9uHVOPIVFfGDWuKPAplSPEEBgBiAY7NhoAScy2aWX8P9FZQe6GvBrUXkKq5id1V9nj3DwR22n39bPbCd/M5HsY3k5DXPzmLQ77yyUuT25MbgMgEithCJ4vHgBzMQTS4AJWPZowN4/S1xbU9DOuXiV0Hv8KXMOg48=; Message-ID: <10675.90339.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: r9hIALcVM1kQpfUH9J75OYZPPW7amnUrGlUbsfIqpEckayk9AgLRwjIkZnTj3SVBsGfcQkkUhfWkF4kJbsBQBrGuAKORBlYBg66GCQbKwFuGlcoAZ5t.IpI89IgmUocQYaTdIdlPNaKJ2cOKJumJRYTBvSQAenrTuUMZ575yijsY7TWGGJwY9zZbbggUV6eJ8FKafZG9.JjlWyAelRaBL3vGORqjnar8KBpezY2L.8tccGry0ke2taXcW_8RE6itKXV95lBYkh2tI_UaZUSt.YVTW8Uh1TZ6N4YyRWwDrghYbwIjuyLaCg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 References: <291935340.88041250259231957.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <001001ca1cf7$260d0dd0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001001ca1cf7$260d0dd0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1696485969-1250269220=:90339" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:07:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-1696485969-1250269220=:90339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personal anecdote, 30 years ago I saved up some money so I could buy my fir= st electric guitar. Went to the music store and they had two used=C2=A0guit= ars I could afford, one which looked really cool, all black and modern, and= another which was a sunburst guitar with "Les Paul" on the headstock. I li= ked them both, but not knowing much about guitars couldn't decide which one= .. Finally decided to get the one that said "Les Paul" because I recognized = that name. Still have it, about 10 years ago I estimated I had spent over 6= 000 hours playing it......Thanks Les, RIP=0A=0ARecommended listening: "Ches= ter and Lester" album, not sure if it's available on CD, Chet Atkins and Le= s Paul, I am pretty sure they just sat in a room and did single takes on a = bunch of songs, awesome stuff.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AF= rom: Jeff Duke =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com=0ASent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:51:54 AM=0ASubject: Re: RIP Les Paul= =0A=0A=EF=BB=BF =0AThat's it! Thanks much.=C2=A0I love that when he unplugs= Beck, what a hoot!=0A=C2=A0=0AJ=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: C= hristophe =0A>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0A>Sent: Friday, Aug= ust 14, 2009 10:13 AM=0A>Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul=0A>=0A>=0A>Hey!=C2=A0 He= re it is!=0A>=0A>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLrC_oqWq2pU=0A>=0A>>It se= ems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing together. =0A>>Any= one else seen or have info on that?=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A --0-1696485969-1250269220=:90339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Personal anecdote, 30 years ago I saved up some money = so I could buy my first electric guitar. Went to the music store and they h= ad two used guitars I could afford, one which looked really cool, all = black and modern, and another which was a sunburst guitar with "Les Paul" o= n the headstock. I liked them both, but not knowing much about guitars coul= dn't decide which one. Finally decided to get the one that said "Les Paul" = because I recognized that name. Still have it, about 10 years ago I estimat= ed I had spent over 6000 hours playing it......Thanks Les, RIP
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Recommended listening: "Chester and Lester" album, not= sure if it's available on CD, Chet Atkins and Les Paul, I am pretty sure t= hey just sat in a room and did single takes on a bunch of songs, awesome st= uff.
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=0A=0AFrom: Jeff Duk= e <jeffloops@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:51:54 AM
Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul

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That's it! Thanks much. I love tha= t when he unplugs Beck, what a hoot!
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=0A<= DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
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H= ey!  Here it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLrC_oqWq2pU
>It seems like I remember a video of him and Jeff Beck playing tog= ether.
>Anyone else seen or have info on that?



=0A=0A --0-1696485969-1250269220=:90339-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 01:10:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D8E63BE6F; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=2XgrYWSDRxj5Inz8ThuDbqhuFK4hU+7lAMivtfQEGeo=; b=s6i3mSt3Bkl6Nkq4zYWDcy4kpq59F7Q+0x14GqSLDO6UWK3C+TCpqYUSCHjaaLS0ho mAxI8P9vMdbSW3DG85AFUfw5Toi++anTqkznd7hn2qgc3L+J0ODkOfB9F/dGiRVBxi28 5ykR0CFew5AmQoDhzC4SHu0uwFQRBI70x0Sww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer :x-mimeole; b=okci4+3J4jFvA34Aac3QL1xS0+D1AOoTGWCEOBX/sZ2AZsD1TkQUAU5LE918jwfXjB 6EOCbZX1P5nNgFEv0bupOEnXtT3CuqEL9I4UfUviegneT9iasM5oZzDnloIJ8VEMGp5n /w5KVY0XSecnlxnuMWXstEzbB8tHCpMhmt7A0= Message-ID: <002101ca1d45$228d8790$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Lester Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:10:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <1NVUqC.A.GQF.0rghKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:10:13 +0000 (UTC) I think it was this list, but maybe not.... I have forgotten who posted the tune "Lester" and there is no ID info. Really nice playing to whomever! Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 02:30:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C8B73BE71; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 336 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:30:38 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=4Wb1gLbkYQ4mUDFWGl5QVfhL7/eatzDBdfFai20KEjw=; b=wIFPxuB9mlnujidNiGwUPxiQmdRTm8THYAlTYTxziXLlEJ+wbjdnOsZgTdndaCURaJ JpN+QmAjQmas46ijgk5Dl2Jatzx4UTuY8PGtuilFd2HSWGr37Hv8ZtX9YfFYJmTsBwxq c2JayPGJTjxDUeUFBxGcbhde/XMZGtqVYl9uw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer :x-mimeole; b=i2kAmFkhu4ENPRZ0A0nIflw8PLaKho3lbeJdF/o/U6xCNH87YXPlOHG6VJk4ms4513 cKqCs6ZUtL4Po07Cd4+BPB1w3pgPxa5QFwDISJfqiIhGznbbr8Fmv8QVP6En0KsPpk9S mp+PIpCtXNNNZ4jFLqf7EpSAH5DOiPkaqHQkQ= Message-ID: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: OT: test Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:24:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:30:39 +0000 (UTC) here i go again...test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 02:31:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 202453BE79; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VI45R1w3Ki4xC3R5FCdWAq/A4ZGKu9MIHfi/dJ9QKu8=; b=cj9Mbb4pfNHMysQpE9audd/xYSrk47GHDUAvRFzHpkqqi/Zrk7IgqAde57qWKVTddd YQVBG8Lhz8w/tEZLk/G49x8jczCyekdUl+w7svJvTRkrQsN0sRUaLfRMba/EQoGM6t9Z sObTKzTZ4hzrN15fDFHtB81arA5lOeFnIQaPE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t/LBy2rt1KANd9YYK5OVqs/Cxc0ylxgXPoayfG0worsU3Xb7kAGD9WEzlS6kCOuMSi NETQv0CO7ML/jwCZ0OEyUp8cvYaIzSXORw6ENokP4oHUyQ9sDeUR/sw+s2iqDMmAJ5BV Zghy5uXNbPc3Yh2CXKAYoB9dR6BEwGLAeZd4g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:31:22 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: test From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a440ee31a2047124f6d2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:31:24 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a440ee31a2047124f6d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you are live sir! how goes it On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > here i go again...test > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a440ee31a2047124f6d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you are live sir! =A0how goes it

On Fri, = Aug 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
here i go again...test




--
ReUse, an introspective= textural aural
www.myspace.c= om/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001636c5a440ee31a2047124f6d2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 02:34:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BBD63BE73; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=soLkjFq9SxXE96S8FR3xvfyn9NbyG8WVh2UkKTLVJ8U=; b=GTPLfBXZoACM/HKKuRvIVZgzQn33ZDb0FYUcs9owjhw3PdvSyX23ODVSjZK9dKzsd4 cTewk4smGlNLuzh2KEd8OWiGEynR15C8j7uPShidPCsFt0t3SEE/VAOuxP12yjkr1rWC jpzxoQT1n4uh2WldLOGGtIYshPt9JHaGrdHI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=tCie17GKErflGVN/0JZ5qMEmkt4xRltKo0Bp50kPGfZkDQJ9GjyEN+LSjuZhMFccDl 7LQ7GpDWYnHQaSV8vbBWYPXD3mw+/Exx0NrTPy1ZngQesl6mdsmdZJA4n/ITxdfnGzEx 6CWt1i4d/7DLzu3iRaq08YcUsBV6h3HOJ1h1s= Message-ID: <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: test Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:33:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA1D2F.502E9920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:34:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA1D2F.502E9920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apparently i still don't have Gmail configured right, thought I had it. = When I post, my own don't show up in the inbox or get forwarded to my = other inbox, sigh j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: test you are live sir! how goes it On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: here i go again...test --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA1D2F.502E9920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Apparently i still don't have Gmail = configured=20 right, thought I had it. When I post, my own don't show up in the inbox = or get=20 forwarded to my other inbox, sigh
 
j
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 = 10:31=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT: test

you are live sir!  how goes it

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jeff Duke = <jeffloops@gmail.com> = wrote:
here=20 i go again...test




--=20
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse
music=20 links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm= usic
www.myspace.com/chinap= aintingmusic
www.myspace.com/ji= mgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm= usic

video=20 work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

social=20 networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinm= usic

------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA1D2F.502E9920-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 02:38:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81BD53BE72; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fFls1kQoAc8o4dL2GxNXddAiKBLzYXzZaPJEmY1v0Is=; b=kVBvTc3Z3AqSqEkeJplKCmdPrqOGc7IiBZ+RTNYrBNztwtvYV+eyaCh7gU9tnvI5a0 3tihwoq8d46BRMwylMsNYESrTogZk6i44mPWpejD5Jo6ab4rT35gZxfCCdjTyq23OVTJ +0wYfwFzUWcr/Hq3HbvNgUL1DM7hmkrvkJM7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sDbKFBqBdyPVFtBHJAGualsvOinXL4bd0WrKnQqhRzMzcNFQxvk48JYfs6QZ17bpa0 lOmjBlpvSO9M/ahiUNWy2DSDCPyMGvJXYOnJuAzZc2AYDkkAGQLjyTLTMIwkvTK39YGm zxugRgSR0LihZwcJOqaisy3yA4hNCzubmx+ho= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:38:10 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: test From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b14cb13bb83c0471250fbf Resent-Message-ID: <-WzfCD.A.9NB.T-hhKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:38:11 +0000 (UTC) --001636b14cb13bb83c0471250fbf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I never see any of mine unless some one responds, I thought that was a list preference and not about Gmail... --001636b14cb13bb83c0471250fbf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I never see any of mine unless some one responds, I thought that was a list preference and not about Gmail...


--001636b14cb13bb83c0471250fbf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 02:46:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD4803BE73; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=tg7xzM4aWmriyb0eKqxA0QqH37v5PlufVyXZa6tDsKI=; b=Si+9RDPh5/U4fRcEo8pxuhfZk9cDg37ks9xue1hg7rmFrnyxNAhXAfIh4SlKxNrgGD Z97mtsRc/L0Gbhg5Z9A8qvuD6wZ0dvtux7d06HWGBYX558ivcWvjo5ID37rGnH4AO+5v Wagggt6hP68yw+F04s4h4BePkTEfgH3SjBX4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=MvgvJYyLW3w0RF/A8hr5Xa5FxufcniyZzqQ+frz7RC5xwT1t2OdoYDGf0KJAFhJ1yK mZyJQGpJNjz93qdz2ERAPAZaI6+uV+NVNyG9pdBI/D8hlB4gS4Ouu6+qdmskBJiZso/1 Jxo9ZGaZmV9urGiCOJa+iVaWQZy7x/K4Lcooo= Message-Id: <05BF0FA9-F1D2-4DF9-A16E-9FA6A364418D@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: test Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:46:55 -0700 References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:46:24 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > I thought that was a list preference and not about Gmail... It is gmail trying to not add redundant posts. It is somewhere in the gmail faqs. regards BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 02:49:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7FA43BE78; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 729 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:49:57 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TlX2hDioexQqdIRXp5mwYeMkAf7s8oKu9blEqRlEgcE=; b=Zt9J33MNtfhfu9e+dnS4jZJgyL5nO3xktoriqGW9cVSj0siTdk1IaKXoAFkuVCJgeu ULOfnq0zSezRGI6LFkW3otY3KgrzHapd7/lbZRFJBk0t5R4FpQQiOj1vt/Py8HmSqAwc 1Yln0M7pYkcQEvkgpS+FLN/+oYxGC2ZvepAAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fvMq8e2VjrWerLuFvVxwHUvUxZKtciStKRQuO0GIkqvp20tgS11G2uBmUJSHCjErpv sMnIuEMTlkicahzaBJcw5rVDUb8/VQUmuVdb46DMrYL6I27sdCKlRHhCAYK5UpFFXzLA G4mifp+AiCjDvSrKVniW3I6/p3DfM94Kglf4g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:43:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: test From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bda28b8ef6404712522d3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:49:57 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bda28b8ef6404712522d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I post using my standard Embarqmail addy with Outlook Express it shows up when I post. Not with Gmail though. no worrys, j On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > I never see any of mine unless some one responds, I thought that was a list > preference and not about Gmail... > > > --0023545bda28b8ef6404712522d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If I post using my standard Embarqmail addy with Outlook Express it sh= ows up when I post. Not with Gmail though.
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmus= ic@gmail.com> wrote:
I never see any of mine unless s= ome one responds, I thought that was a list preference and not about Gmail.= ..



--0023545bda28b8ef6404712522d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 02:57:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6F3F3BE79; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=VclDzpersgyLNUlsPKLVQ98DlAk8Vg3QhAap92GvPU8=; b=kW7irf4MS0o9UFOWjd6bvEkCIbrdRUWUFrIoj1V33c6R3CcGcSrkel7dwpe1dNwq9X mOXuajW2aXtpwIiOlY+jPM1q0ZM6HcIzshPMX2B34UWiys2yPjoI8RzD5caL2U/RUGXr ncEi+q7sl2sJNmIiJDnZcp3ItLrPca4QaPvr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=H4KblRb1D3D7ktvn9f+w3kXRh2pkejEav+TSiJwjBcEMx3Eh54GIuXbco0NFGw1YVq +NNb1nvbNjm2MMHQff0hYTXhZ83gpQw1NIBvtBVGfGZwvJ4r6w2pVFNDazF5NUWyiq8m 8f3WfWCVgfc9TLDdz8QKripyMBc/aqMyd9Xuo= Message-ID: <000601ca1d54$162aea10$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> <05BF0FA9-F1D2-4DF9-A16E-9FA6A364418D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: test Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:57:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Hey, Now I am not only old I am redundent, sigh... thanks, I'll check that. I do like Gmail, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "RP Collier" To: Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: OT: test > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> I thought that was a list preference and not about Gmail... > > > > > It is gmail trying to not add redundant posts. > It is somewhere in the gmail faqs. > > > regards > > BobC > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 03:05:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 403BC3BE82; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1311 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:05:28 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=BbgFEgQiQ3BOByAqypx/kACbIcjKhag1+1FGJoV7+xg=; b=oQDgL0tYTKNrzj7WQH/3sAjIax7QFVXy3xwV+3eJwTR+3kRReF/Lvchwote/1okNMJ eg8ws4or8aO/NuxAbNdxLz/HNvXkFUvCHAVjtznQrB8jbOdGSDezL5Fb63KjQaseaL/3 ZGPmMcprwDJrr9ZqoC/2pTHvKLEd2yTpSe++I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=x+c15oMA1iKq8qcNj5Ax3PJ30fMoLmQyW+gz2TOAjgqiWIeJf2UQWSL8YCBWXncsp1 tFENcSI8+aPWVy8AYMqBjeITbfV25rgpFyOo5FSKhqHpmvCzy1qGJGhRXEZ0rO0/Bzwm h1T3BtvFJCABhFBjlDHVlfFQF2+a3Ca5gIl6M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:37:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Lester From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d32a2bdd7a090471250d75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:05:29 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d32a2bdd7a090471250d75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it was this list, but maybe not.... I have forgotten who posted the tune "Lester" and there is no ID info. Really nice playing to whomever! Thanks, Jeff --0016e6d32a2bdd7a090471250d75 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it was this list, but maybe not....
I have forgotten who posted the tune "Lester" and there is no ID info.
Really nice playing to whomever!

Thanks,

Jeff --0016e6d32a2bdd7a090471250d75-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 03:08:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B0AD3BE88; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=36iovMlPecxoRr9QIO0fXi9t7fSNOwmAovdHsbxFH1E=; b=EHPn7xJIbDXeO3MugiRO/VR0SOmNqrMQBu8nowgXQF30UL4OJWDK2G5ePZES4LkSyF lsdvVoMpFjUB6KCsMoTjmXZJXOh4j5UBfK57k7XYMDoVT9KBiKTlw9gS4kDHCxhO5pO5 bq8R+cm1PG4Nd3Qp8ENyWOlXbh1wpeDRZsLv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nJykI8dKeGVSmCpRu1SkF4j9TbinmHMl3FLU0v1FFlkb2tIM0Ro6QXzvubnCojCQ/F Rge5gpTDj9jDQKoDGzXBabj+hul/sQQj/mGwSlxhZaIb29YRrW//WPdOMVQORaPhLwiL vN+QtylT45Q45TfvaYtZQjLddbPxmnoBzExyg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <05BF0FA9-F1D2-4DF9-A16E-9FA6A364418D@gmail.com> References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> <05BF0FA9-F1D2-4DF9-A16E-9FA6A364418D@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:08:31 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908142008i62e4f1c4t4fca8360628e3e61@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: test From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0edb8cf1ebf0471257b6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:08:33 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0edb8cf1ebf0471257b6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just looked through the settings and find nothing about it, is it user editable or is it 'decided for me' by the almight Googler? --000e0ce0edb8cf1ebf0471257b6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just looked through the settings and find nothing about it, is it user editable or is it 'decided for me' by the almight Googler?


--000e0ce0edb8cf1ebf0471257b6c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 03:26:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C02D73BE94; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=wyYoNN7mUFhK/4HWFRSsAXgWxjfbvfAdJt2Em4N7mjs=; b=dbyQmFTZ40Z4VDTd9l0KiI5L8UabhOGlHs0SQIi5HudMVs9anvA2n0lkZBJ199p2k3 st5vO5cMxH8EJSTU74bZlfszFK9D/9DqU2Ct8/ppRSi6V/yK2ZTTuwK1MVMEkMSOvw62 wB9kaxVMbYqn7UBsRc7KicggOwKHIt4mcqV6s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=I5RVldvQHMAgUyxemRYpibN+PKAyVbUe6Fq4Hv0bW+pULuydZKUCSE36/rlbem7/41 4V2wrxfIlIFgyebbkKdJ1uNIkNOSrWSRsrmrrAh0yVWHdkzW9ft14sP/n/DrD+jMsocu nP++7ovtAf+LK6k33ie1RaFVAjqWkWQgr32SI= Message-Id: <18C92B14-48BD-4C0B-A170-DA545BE263A2@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908142008i62e4f1c4t4fca8360628e3e61@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: test Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:21:10 -0700 References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> <05BF0FA9-F1D2-4DF9-A16E-9FA6A364418D@gmail.com> <9e0440a60908142008i62e4f1c4t4fca8360628e3e61@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <-biU9D.A.TkD.hrihKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:26:25 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > I just looked through the settings and find nothing about it, Look under Help > receiving messages > troubleshooting BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 03:45:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F9DE3BE7E; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=zSvvCbgWur8vVCiQ61PlXAW30c6oG37zmVo11roSYEw=; b=wGKAg9E2BBQCi9tQj0kIORHVpWwSHqImj2+w5VwPUxcwU2BCN2jL9hSawM8XRNNbv1 7X1mRnFfZjm7j2Ts2VG5efL+mjskG2S4jghuk4wRbordHAezt6eUjrDed08q06r0WfL+ nraNwoaAkb2iiwlbQoQBVtrsr1FgFn+me7Uo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=Eyqvemx7VHRFdVU2stz8FZmkcc5sL0EADPPi6V7Gd4lN6NFYg1Zc+wCRMho1Qb5BV9 0yaPSu9IjUestL7o7NMANhI8buprM5UZFOF200Kq6aWrUQ7qxTqvr4GakNYPaRFq8Caw ZeNzuwg/mt1tUvLPqF9xtV6fu6xafrTNm0G2A= Message-ID: <000801ca1d5a$cafa1690$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca1d4f$974df150$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141931t233c2887pcc1d35b5ec59d2b1@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca1d50$d82c46d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60908141938wbf64937y51b1cd32e0850699@mail.gmail.com> <05BF0FA9-F1D2-4DF9-A16E-9FA6A364418D@gmail.com> <9e0440a60908142008i62e4f1c4t4fca8360628e3e61@mail.gmail.com> <18C92B14-48BD-4C0B-A170-DA545BE263A2@gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: test Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:45:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Yep, that,s it When you send a message to any mailing list you subscribe to, Gmail automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you time and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. thanks, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "RP Collier" To: Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:21 PM Subject: Re: OT: test > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> I just looked through the settings and find nothing about it, > > > Look under > Help > receiving messages > troubleshooting > > > > > BobC > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 03:54:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 293B03BE72; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A86316C.4080305@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:54:20 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: The Only Way to Win is Not to Play the Game References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Great, thoughtful blog post, might be of general interest. "..There are some people who are only happy when music is played a certain way or by certain musicians. There are some people who simply are not ever happy with music..." http://renewablemusic.blogspot.com/2009/08/only-way-to-win-is-not-to-play-game.html Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 04:05:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 310C43BE77; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=U3TUROo+1aT5Nk7W5UboKtQHZiCg5UxwKRLJghQ0r9Y=; b=jrUvdi1PiNNCYi0CwLJQk/uJgjJ5v3xZQogmoWeAsu3N+9d/96KCj+GUboPWVo1v48 mdg8BSTuf11zpGM2+zUO02QSfJsobJF7IO4LsNWa16x1GEyrqGIS83WBpZ0YPp6x4irZ LPTje2L9f6RahX7vC/Kj8C5s6G7kw6O0pXAfQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=ZBVnY0MaZHIJfukWJB9uoogeFQeusG7jOpXxOmcghmEER+ZAPGrAmbDFl3cgzqIWLs JE2p9yqhOooxM44Vvtwp0P+ZQ3K7giclKxIR9Vg0p7X0DfmZBOrVBZy3Ue2aZRSrYNWx XyTdtJIL0hxId5C+FQljePrI/5mUA1d4VPLnw= Message-ID: <000601ca1d5d$a5b3aba0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4A86316C.4080305@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: The Only Way to Win is Not to Play the Game Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:05:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Now that's a keeper! Thanks for posting Daryl. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:54 PM Subject: OT: The Only Way to Win is Not to Play the Game > Great, thoughtful blog post, might be of general interest. > > "..There are some people who are only happy when music is played a certain > way or by certain musicians. There are some people who simply are not > ever happy with music..." > > http://renewablemusic.blogspot.com/2009/08/only-way-to-win-is-not-to-play-game.html > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 07:14:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 425333BE75; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A866059.8020401@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:14:33 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Music at Quarter Speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6tpTvD.A.4OD.gBmhKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Clint wrote referring to an Eno remix: "Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slowed remix." Yeah, that's so cool and it reminds me that a couple of years ago I was looking for one track for a video and going through a lot of things I've composed and never put out to see if I could find a match. I couldn't find anything. I finally found just a single loop that I had composes in Fruity loops that seemed close but it was a bit too uptempo. I went into Soundforge and started to slow it down a bit but I hit the wrong button and the thing went to 1/2 speed, accidentally. The accident sounded really cool so I did it , purposefully, again and it sounded fantastic at 1/4 speed. Ever since then, I am always try radically slowing things down to see how they sound. It's amazing how sounds and timbres change with radical repitching. Fruity Loops has a wonderful global tuning fader that allows you to pitch an entire mix up or down an octave. What's great is that it's non-destructive so you can really play about with it. You can even tell certain elements not to pitch if you want to keep timbres staying the same. I especially love my Repeater for it's ability to pitch things down two octaves while keeping the same rhythm because of it's IVL streching algorithms. You can use this to reharmonize things or just to change their timbre. Cymbals sound brilliant pitched way down. This isn't live looping but here's a track I did this week using this technique (just a mockup, not a completed track) where the main loop is a sample of breaking glass slowed down over and over (I didn't even count how many times I slowed it down). By restretching and then repitching several times, it ended up having a more rhythmic feeling to it. I had just seen a really excellent documentary on Netflix watch instantly on the history of the Bloods and Crips in LA that had a really beautiful mournful and slow trip hop sountrack (DJ Krush, Portisehead, et. al.) and was in the mood to write such a piece. www.looppool.info/BreakingGlassAtQuarterSpeed Also, you should really check out list member Matt Davignons' CD, "Music at 1/2 Speed." www.ribosome*music*.com/*music*.html He went through archival music of his own and slowed things down and even reversed the material. It's a compelling listening, one that really inspired me, personally. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 10:49:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D24D3BE77; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4F762EAB2F72499CB4A403CEA019665E@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4A866059.8020401@cruzio.com> Subject: Music at Anti-Speed Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:49:41 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:49:46 +0000 (UTC) > Clint wrote referring to an Eno remix: > "Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slowed > remix." Hah, well try this one: "Tzima N'Arki" from Eno-Cluster's "After the Heat"... First off, if anyone's figured this one out already my sort-of-apologies in advance. My alibi: I didn't start listening to MP3s - or sampling/recording my CDs - until I was half-way round the world from my CD collection, and then interested in listening to said music on my home network (and, shock-horror! a Sony-Ericsson phone that plays mp3s)... I found the track on one of a number of driving cassettes that I'd put together in the mid-90s, and accidentally packed for the move to the UK in 2000. Having sung along with the backwards lyrics on "Tzima N'Arki" for some time I finally sucked it into Cool Edit and reversed it. Go ahead, the words are interesting at least, as well as a good example of the Domed One reusing his own material in innovative ways. Stephen Goodman * http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman PS: Ten years ago this week I threw my version of The Star Spangled Banner up on the Internet in commemoration of Jimi's version at that well-known over-attended music festival in 1969. I decided this week that I'd work on video to accompany it, and wondered about taking suggestions of public-domain footage I might use (my call as to which, of course). Any suggestions? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 14:35:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84FAE3BE75; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pFjhMGb6tzQWsYVkjYSQ4DmTMle8qNVmsyb2cPbVtAA=; b=m7b/RK2y2lAgWEUA7ZMR2zOVWNMk3rifHzoOrr26K0Vi6SlNdy82TdFrB7R5xDRzBS iRVls9JwB4+DeSmtuhCQ/8PN3YHgUtcG8KB9McwzPw7r+ZrOAiG5mBtO/3k+t3E5xyIl YDxXXh2gMQOGv3AOnvOVx3I+CQzXFn5lejxv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YBHrMaYVDTH1aUWLCbnHon3978DkyaYNybo+iWVDCGoqHJ0xF2rAobCNhLtkliVXWO UehIsOsZcNvRuvphFeHNKKJKsKvsrtUQp2gBJgTRHJyuCrs5IBB5ePL6H40kTsLCyLo/ ztuSWp8pvG904NoWGuslyxZdBxYHkvIHkVMQ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:35:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Music at Anti-Speed From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e642d16a29e45504712f13f9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:35:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e642d16a29e45504712f13f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit King's Lead Hat. Been there, Done that. (Oooh, yet another Eno song!) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Clint wrote referring to an Eno remix: >> "Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slowed >> remix." >> > > Hah, well try this one: "Tzima N'Arki" from Eno-Cluster's "After the > Heat"... > > First off, if anyone's figured this one out already my sort-of-apologies in > advance. My alibi: I didn't start listening to MP3s - or sampling/recording > my CDs - until I was half-way round the world from my CD collection, and > then interested in listening to said music on my home network (and, > shock-horror! a Sony-Ericsson phone that plays mp3s)... > > I found the track on one of a number of driving cassettes that I'd put > together in the mid-90s, and accidentally packed for the move to the UK in > 2000. Having sung along with the backwards lyrics on "Tzima N'Arki" for > some time I finally sucked it into Cool Edit and reversed it. Go ahead, the > words are interesting at least, as well as a good example of the Domed One > reusing his own material in innovative ways. > > Stephen Goodman > * > http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman > http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman > > PS: Ten years ago this week I threw my version of The Star Spangled Banner > up on the Internet in commemoration of Jimi's version at that well-known > over-attended music festival in 1969. I decided this week that I'd work on > video to accompany it, and wondered about taking suggestions of > public-domain footage I might use (my call as to which, of course). Any > suggestions? > --0016e642d16a29e45504712f13f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable King's Lead Hat. Been there, Done that. (Oooh, yet another Eno song!)
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Stephen G= oodman <sp= goodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
Clint wrote referring to an Eno remix:
"Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slo= wed remix."

Hah, well try this one: "Tzima N'Arki" from Eno-Cluster's= "After the Heat"...

First off, if anyone's figured this one out already my sort-of-apologie= s in advance. =A0My alibi: I didn't start listening to MP3s - or sampli= ng/recording my CDs - until I was half-way round the world from my CD colle= ction, and then interested in listening to said music on my home network (a= nd, shock-horror! a Sony-Ericsson phone that plays mp3s)...

I found the track on one of a number of driving cassettes that I'd put = together in the mid-90s, and accidentally packed for the move to the UK in = 2000. =A0Having sung along with the backwards lyrics on "Tzima N'A= rki" for some time I finally sucked it into Cool Edit and reversed it.= =A0Go ahead, the words are interesting at least, as well as a good example= of the Domed One reusing his own material in innovative ways.

Stephen Goodman
*
http://www.vim= eo.com/spgoodman
http= ://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman

PS: Ten years ago this week I threw my version of The Star Spangled Banner = up on the Internet in commemoration of Jimi's version at that well-know= n over-attended music festival in 1969. =A0I decided this week that I'd= work on video to accompany it, and wondered about taking suggestions of pu= blic-domain footage I might use (my call as to which, of course). =A0Any su= ggestions?

--0016e642d16a29e45504712f13f9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 15:24:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 005E43BE75; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250349874; bh=SaOLlc3yKgsuuX5JJ2WhfCLEBvyMK0afTuDLU3GrlLE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kQad4VRCpInV4UuSnn/41sfFm3cZ6DByAZ1ryDwjngEfqzqcSeO+kiNe6ReCwnv6ECjMALroUDpCOiqCjUeJ5ZF5E7SIdYKdfaDGDveIOz/b/Cj8e3Hd8pIhOFCObP0pTGnwBxEC6CY1aeGrhMBA+mW1dptX5joaEGPh76MpLEo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kUb0K39kWPd/5kPgkS5GYD3nKRWRQVzk+JjzoJg/UqP0gXTfCBa+14Xp1FcnAHOXe3z1D7IwZiNtXftjXBDX65aVWk0TEGsyX0wOrlKXziEqnxaYXtp3/O1qDKCbs9K2egnAl7zc+uK8ufZYPcGrtq2jecRJXAZtao4WkX8krQo=; Message-ID: <891008.80118.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Y.O_kpYVM1nrs5P1O3P.MRFR10EbVkvG0VP4YvIlTL02NfSTh__qX0feCXbOCikNiVImimGbrDNZyzK99L5OT9yOTRkFYaUxbliPYOmSySAfn.swltCkaT_pdh3n4oh2ckqZew2ln4NzvZLC1lWmStNS8YAxoJt998gqHBFrmPWmkanhivdAcJsoMEQqwNXKZrixz198zesbahQY8cjKOB5ztcztsXztjwzPBHMOJ8uB_yCSWnolVWdCjAY6Q0E8GT2CcG8zLQGQZaV2wQLPgaGQDyAREt2kstx7ig1JXB4AWI7pZUU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:24:34 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Music at Quarter Speed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A866059.8020401@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1629686756-1250349874=:80118" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:24:35 +0000 (UTC) --0-1629686756-1250349874=:80118 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you like really slowed down music, Leif Inge took Beethoven's 9th Symphony (a tad over an hour long) and stretched to last for 24 hours and then pitch corrected it - http://www.expandedfield.net/ This is some sweet music. I grabbed the whole thing a while ago from his website but that seems to be gone; however, it is up as a webcast. Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: Music at Quarter Speed To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Received: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 12:14 AM Clint wrote referring to an Eno remix: "Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slowed remix." __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. --0-1629686756-1250349874=:80118 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

If you like really slowed down music, Leif Inge took Beethoven's 9th Symphony (a tad over an hour long) and stretched to last for 24 hours and then pitch corrected it - http://www.expandedfield.net/

This is some sweet music.

I grabbed the whole thing a while ago from his website but that seems to be gone; however, it is up as a webcast.


Ted H.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
Subject: Music at Quarter Speed
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Received: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 12:14 AM

Clint wrote referring to an Eno remix:
"Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a slowed remix."

Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! --0-1629686756-1250349874=:80118-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 15:30:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CB003BE72; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250350215; bh=9mox+ZyndcOyoamaELTHF2jyAwnyqJ/+i/6SbtOeKto=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IQcC05toWHlp9G+vRnUPO85UioW+56OZz2hgEKxXjVUafkPjLkcYL168MDMNF6DkAUTUOK0QEGwRXz8TX/6uLct/wK0TG5AuWVMQFrqvnOcmblfc+V1/KwVlB/tfXnlR/Qu6T7DDLpoW/N4HBNzXBxAaC6VGtxAQ+fB7MLmdfow= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AkvLENG96TuCqUP46E02m+HFypPMFfPjrlZnvbrT99t8j+NJ+SRltS7PhHY8kqF2lk2tnEU/aY8lY9ua2Ca3z8LxamHFMF3CJNoEs28nudYehRF9vDsSMRDsiJBaGbmN3hlRrZgJgocRulsHuEBBS7ih8zIbKEVpnqdNGkl5bJ4=; Message-ID: <948716.84604.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uw.9oyQVM1mQulkqsE_22wf9Cf_OahmqrQxvG0b4RRVOS_TyJSvWvAT.ZpKS1C8bEwNl8jVcpXwfKgju2cJZeDia7TSg8EqmRvCivhUeBB8M05.om3Vy42yv8vftP0JnEBwfIbo1v_Yffda51OUKt_BC46po3G3Ps6ZOWyk.ixvk8cJfJyaSv.ST5A1Vyxn8T_88UPxO80tYt0fqTpz59RgOaZg5XTv7UJJPTUNJsbioMJ8cb1F2KMO1uMA0urxkQsp3.we6a8UnBJ4VoePzNmeZWyNJxpplXffE30lVRVk87bgKhI_7cZM4ZVin X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:30:15 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1455153879-1250350215=:84604" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:30:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-1455153879-1250350215=:84604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it was a while back that somebody said by putting a latched or unla= tched footswitch into an effect pedal's 'tuner out' plug would act as a kil= l switch, muting all that was going through the pedal. I've poked through the archive but couldn't find the original post and a tr= ip this morning to two LMS's came up empty as neither had a pedal with a 't= uner out'. Does anybody else remember this?=A0 Could somebody with this a 'tuner out' = pedal & a footswitch try it out for me? Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog=0A=0A=0A _________= _________________________________________________________=0AYahoo! Canada T= oolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites.= Download it now=0Ahttp://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. --0-1455153879-1250350215=:84604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think it was a while back that somebody= said by putting a latched or unlatched footswitch into an effect pedal's '= tuner out' plug would act as a kill switch, muting all that was going throu= gh the pedal.

I've poked through the archive but couldn't find the o= riginal post and a trip this morning to two LMS's came up empty as neither = had a pedal with a 'tuner out'.

Does anybody else remember this?&nbs= p; Could somebody with this a 'tuner out' pedal & a footswitch try it o= ut for me?


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Give the gift of Flick= r! --0-1455153879-1250350215=:84604-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 18:46:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FF793BE78; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <948716.84604.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <948716.84604.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:46:23 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:46:29 +0000 (UTC) At 8:30 AM -0700 8/15/09, ditch wrestler wrote: >I think it was a while back that somebody said by putting a latched >or unlatched footswitch into an effect pedal's 'tuner out' plug >would act as a kill switch, muting all that was going through the >pedal. I think I know the trick you're talking about, and you're having trouble finding it (I think) 'cause a couple of your details are munged. I believe you're referring to a trick discovered by our own William Walker while using one of the Korg tuners. There are a couple of the Korg models that have an input for a pedal to be used as a "Mute" switch. You can attach a unlatched footswitch (like a Roland FS-series switch) into this connector and use it as a 'killswitch' to create your own gating effects. I'm sure that if you search back for Bill's posts looking for "Korg tuner" you'll probably find the thread you're searching for.... --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 19:47:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A4423BE46; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Henry Kaiser Solo CD From: looppool@cruzio.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:47:38 +0000 (UTC) I woke up feeling kind of blue this morning; quarantined for a few days with a nasty roto virus that my wife and I caught (not swine flu, thank god), sealed inside the house because the Lockheed Fire smoke is so bad in Santa Cruz now..... with big industrial HEPA filter fans on high (I'm sooooo sick of the sound of those fans on high). I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new solo guitar improvisation CD on. I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and awe inspiring. It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play electric guitar for the rest of my life. Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning track is just beautiful: abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if any of you were fortunate to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year, it is along the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater photography from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album about the intersection of different personal practise and their attached intimacies." You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want to start plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. A beautiful and thought provoking record. I highly recommend it if you are in search of either beauty or musical inspiration. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 20:04:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4AA53BE75; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:04:39 UTC X-Authenticated: #13417443 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/an2QYXTDa80QY2CjiEBJmMaje901vkizWYIhOGg Xd72L0Kza5Zchr Message-ID: <4A87133A.90406@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:57:46 +0200 From: Johannes Korn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music at Quarter Speed References: <891008.80118.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <891008.80118.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54 Resent-Message-ID: <-SVVzB.A.qSH.XTxhKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I have to de-lurk here, being a lover of stretched audio myself. For slowing down audio, I found "Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch" a very valuable tool (http://hypermammut.sourceforge.net/paulstretch/ ). With this program, you can do really extreme stretching (hence the name) without change of pitch. The results can be really beautiful. All the best, Johannes ditch wrestler schrieb: > > If you like really slowed down music, Leif Inge took Beethoven's 9th > Symphony (a tad over an hour long) and stretched to last for 24 hours > and then pitch corrected it - http://www.expandedfield.net/ > > This is some sweet music. > > I grabbed the whole thing a while ago from his website but that seems > to be gone; however, it is up as a webcast. > > > Ted H. > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > --- On *Sat, 8/15/09, Rick Walker //* wrote: > > > From: Rick Walker > Subject: Music at Quarter Speed > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Received: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 12:14 AM > > Clint wrote referring to an Eno remix: > "Ha! This whole time I've had that and never realized it was a > slowed remix." > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking for the perfect gift?* Give the gift of Flickr!* > -- Johannes Korn - j.korn@gmx.de http://www.myspace.com/nashorn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 20:05:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E77D3BE77; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.176.245] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:05:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2009 20:05:11.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[B20898D0:01CA1DE3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Someone was telling me, maybe you Rick? that Kaiser has been experimenting wiht a new technique of playing, where what he played was not directly intentional or completely a product of direct consciousness. . I guess he was experimeting by talking or doing other things while he was playing the guitar, so that it lessened the intentionality of his playing, thereby making it more random and new. Did you hear this too? It is as if he were distancing himself from the guitar and letting this body play. Maybe it was someone at BCIMF who told me. Kris ----- Original Message ----- >I woke up feeling kind of blue this morning; quarantined for a few days > with a nasty > roto virus that my wife and I caught (not swine flu, thank god), sealed > inside the house > because the Lockheed Fire smoke is so bad in Santa Cruz now..... with big > industrial HEPA filter > fans on high (I'm sooooo sick of the sound of those fans on high). > > I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new solo > guitar > improvisation CD on. > > I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and > awe inspiring. > It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play > electric guitar > for the rest of my life. > > Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning track is > just beautiful: > abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if any of > you were fortunate > to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year, > it is along > the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater > photography > from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. > > I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. > > In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album about the > intersection of different > personal practise and their attached intimacies." > > You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. > > It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want to > start > plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. > > That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. > > A beautiful and thought provoking record. I highly recommend it if you > are in search of > either beauty or musical inspiration. > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 22:00:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51AD03BE71; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1027 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:00:14 UTC Message-ID: <20090815163504.F72AE.37285.root@ispmxfep10-z02> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:35:04 -0700 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD Cc: Krispen Hartung In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: 71.28.203.22 X-Auth-IP: 71.28.203.22 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1S7vqdmDuHYA:10 a=8lbbqg9Ren1K09e70j0A:9 a=Dyj8TImJzuKPeuCiwmoA:7 a=rLaZed89el9cKvMallL6iWLEQB4A:4 a=BAJq6lBvVEoA:10 Resent-Message-ID: <5FaqyD.A.wPF.v_yhKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:00:15 +0000 (UTC) This is the CD Damon Smith put out on Balancepoint? I haven't heard it yet, but it's on my wish list.. I don't think that the speaking/playing thing is all that new to Kaiser. He's done it before ( "Meet the Flintstones" off of Lemon Fish Tweezer comes to mind ), I believe he got the habit from Derek Bailey who did fairly often.. It does open improvisational doors. ( Davey Williams once told me he would practice guitar while reading a book..) Mr Kaiser doesn't get enough credit when it comes to the history of looping. His piece "It's a Wonderful Life" is a stellar example of the genre.. I guess that was my first post... Cheers! Doug H ---- Krispen Hartung wrote: > Someone was telling me, maybe you Rick? that Kaiser has been experimenting > wiht a new technique of playing, where what he played was not directly > intentional or completely a product of direct consciousness. . I guess he > was experimeting by talking or doing other things while he was playing the > guitar, so that it lessened the intentionality of his playing, thereby > making it more random and new. Did you hear this too? It is as if he were > distancing himself from the guitar and letting this body play. Maybe it > was someone at BCIMF who told me. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >I woke up feeling kind of blue this morning; quarantined for a few days > > with a nasty > > roto virus that my wife and I caught (not swine flu, thank god), sealed > > inside the house > > because the Lockheed Fire smoke is so bad in Santa Cruz now..... with big > > industrial HEPA filter > > fans on high (I'm sooooo sick of the sound of those fans on high). > > > > I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new solo > > guitar > > improvisation CD on. > > > > I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and > > awe inspiring. > > It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play > > electric guitar > > for the rest of my life. > > > > Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning track is > > just beautiful: > > abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if any of > > you were fortunate > > to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year, > > it is along > > the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater > > photography > > from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. > > > > I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. > > > > In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album about the > > intersection of different > > personal practise and their attached intimacies." > > > > You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. > > > > It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want to > > start > > plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. > > > > That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. > > > > A beautiful and thought provoking record. I highly recommend it if you > > are in search of > > either beauty or musical inspiration. > > > > rick walker > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 22:25:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A6B33BE78; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=opi77AJybjNzFdPoaxbvyHZESf1W1ghv6ELxGLTzNiU=; b=COHe5G9wdoThDw8ltXDqZ5EIVbxU8sIkOwN3yJpwYR9zAZNqt3iFNSMnGkfELrlQ+V oG3AwtZbEPmQdT638h6G8LddAA36b52xk22wC6gHGSNkUYoabPpuOrw3VzOh6VScEdSc x2XTWwxiBceAy6t+GoxgSNnCDdaOf/W+ONQC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=G475famRd3s5Y/5UlaOoxwOXT0emC4FPGnjnYvPHoTi+yCUaHgGXcwqBabze7yqI1v XG5AYhISYRDDTbZrGqa4ojR86NiiqmCb02nNExUevpfCzRaIhA3EZaro8GwdRj0pow+Q qMYefISD5vBWig8RIbbknjt/+pHi7o+4RcDvw= Message-Id: <40F056AA-53C1-4027-BCFD-C3EBEE0A2FC2@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003b01ca18c3$d58e90e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: LOOP V (was: livelooping in antwerp) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:25:16 -0300 References: <003b01ca18c3$d58e90e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:25:44 +0000 (UTC) >> is there any "loopwindowing" around minute 9, where those granny >> arpeggios are modified later... ? is it possible michael, to do the >> *old* edp trick with the plugin too? > > I'm not sure what I did but yes, I think the LoopV software can do > what the > EDP could do, and more (such as continuous speed control). Don't > know if > Matthias and Andy are still putting lots of effort into the > development of > this, now that Matthias is a father ... just today, the family moved to a more appropriate flat, without my work space. the idea is to move to some atelier, where I can concentrate better. I need to keep the entire code in my head to work efficiently, which was not possible since Icaue was born. And I found a new partner here in Brasil, Pedro, a young EE and great guitar player, who will help me to adapt the software to a new hardware... not that I would give up working with Andy, but to collaborate in the same physical space has some huge advantages which I did not enjoy since I worked with Eric on the EDP between 1992 and 1994. so yes, I will finish this plugin! Its already doing almost everything the EDP did, since I basically translated from the original ASM code. Plus its nearly sample accurate now. > >> all through the guitar pickups. i don't know why, but i prefer this >> approach better than triggering samples or using a mic to feed the >> loops. more experimental. better results. > > it is more direct somehow, yes yes, its that middle way I believe in, too: intuitive instant expression and easy noise free amplification! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 23:17:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2CE73BE79; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 560687.15035.bm@omp301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250378182; bh=rQJxTheD9DwsfGCOEd7ajfe9OVi659M9TQ8u3b/8u8Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Cl3a8MMq8tjT4LgnDjEA1xJn9lUcscj4I30DtOfVoVuS575p+4z/8Z/SpWN5f+/fDN5mwF3PVMh9I6G47QRykapgYrIkrchQjkiscB/wMrwmibgQsC7E6ejNsCHsOt6q3PU6ug7bWwqwnXqUgbX5UKVZqbtwm8aDNyAobUU7v6o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LspV8HfCewkybat9D1yi+wKFh/cXaRJl0ga6+PcLrOfbxgz1O99gx9MRv/UBeQZjtnb66A9vGmiWvsKMxCYG2IdnCaIiW65zA+WPv9eQ2dBR/qieSS+BNOVOfr0hZ8YOw6z2wGaMNQZ8xMyMdAOgshCgUSq/uX/JDFvrLDTng0A=; Message-ID: <352762.81053.qm@web45308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3.glrMAVM1n6T9XSxnyYYQTv8zdfXXl_AexkFCxLUbdtHOREQztan1HoRRMEgr6zf0QvFxTiMNq.ml8Vqz6frnKUm3oUzYIaPT5kEusMsRR_WZGDEIcsbb534jbfjzN7zATbAsxBp1D7u1hvp9iRIppWXsJzbKtV4c.jX1BIFVHBKuwJr1zl1bQZZEhw1ntZxQDLWVwCPNiC1_ap3vZYa9FjMfuLbi.po7sG6s4v1XSWqSOO8xZYwH1nRnHLu0Wwr9qFfxVIhyGGJeSOAPahbOxP37lOi.mJWGIQF4qT0FdF5wfWDZOqGo805cZfa88N6VaaL1xk0IAy960b4Eqi9vSLemherqeNH8Vn42oW X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:16:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Music at Quarter Speed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A87133A.90406@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Preaching to the choir by throwing in a plug for listmember Zoe Keating, the closing track on her 'one cello x 16: natoma' CD, called 'legions (aftermath)' is a timestretched (to 20%) version of her piece 'legions (war)'. Yes, it's got artifacts (timestretchmarks?) but it sounds extremely wonderful anyway. Here are three different live clips of the non-stretched 'legions': -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 23:27:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D2CE3BE79; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250378824; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=AScsuNxsiTJC1Y85X6dtbq88qCQ=; b=PTTY1q9dKMJ7+FHhc6w8TLabTtHPw1oCUg2mo8Ra7FiOh2ZXsZtGVPrVr74fLUAy UJG6WcBOsZ3PaIpq1qz6L39W40FndYWnAFDT8+QO/H5Dm/pTWjISKtMLphRo4yrR; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=X26O6BbSAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=OrIlKI8jSJnQCgWaooEA:9 a=CkHPMZ8HJPepyV-kl3gA:7 a=3W3ENMHKhtNYuKcDk4U1OZndzewA:4 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01ca1e00$0c6eed30$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:28:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Hey, I found this great vid with Kaiser, Arlid Anderson and a drummer named Bill Walker that looks alot like you! :) http://nevergetoutoftheboat.blogspot.com/2008/01/henry-kaiserarild-andersenbill-walker.html J ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:47 PM Subject: Henry Kaiser Solo CD >I woke up feeling kind of blue this morning; quarantined for a few days > with a nasty > roto virus that my wife and I caught (not swine flu, thank god), sealed > inside the house > because the Lockheed Fire smoke is so bad in Santa Cruz now..... with big > industrial HEPA filter > fans on high (I'm sooooo sick of the sound of those fans on high). > > I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new solo > guitar > improvisation CD on. > > I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and > awe inspiring. > It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play > electric guitar > for the rest of my life. > > Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning track is > just beautiful: > abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if any of > you were fortunate > to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year, > it is along > the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater > photography > from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. > > I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. > > In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album about the > intersection of different > personal practise and their attached intimacies." > > You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. > > It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want to > start > plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. > > That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. > > A beautiful and thought provoking record. I highly recommend it if you > are in search of > either beauty or musical inspiration. > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 15 23:29:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BC8F3BE79; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250378978; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=7mxVQJRe52g1tuq4rYrPbJCE3kM=; b=N1Xgk8bcm8wVUibhOj5TAsftxd2+UXpGzxhQfLfDysVeo0KwW9d1GLzzFu4pYwen ZAiMI3pfnZMccPaS3QqHkPB2+ZKSX4uMQ6LsmrIFSCoNJFhDj6PnLzDZQccxCSmR; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=X26O6BbSAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=6WZB4bLD24OhkkcwaXoA:9 a=9SMuW8N4y8FRXMnKmSwA:7 a=QvNo3jslzyvINArfjZ7uVNULdjsA:4 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001501ca1e00$6833a9d0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000e01ca1e00$0c6eed30$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:30:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Rick, I forgot to post the source of this where it lists you correctly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrThQZ_eS-o j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" To: Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD > Hey, I found this great vid with Kaiser, Arlid Anderson and a drummer > named Bill Walker that looks alot like you! :) > http://nevergetoutoftheboat.blogspot.com/2008/01/henry-kaiserarild-andersenbill-walker.html > > J > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:47 PM > Subject: Henry Kaiser Solo CD > > >>I woke up feeling kind of blue this morning; quarantined for a few days >> with a nasty >> roto virus that my wife and I caught (not swine flu, thank god), sealed >> inside the house >> because the Lockheed Fire smoke is so bad in Santa Cruz now..... with big >> industrial HEPA filter >> fans on high (I'm sooooo sick of the sound of those fans on high). >> >> I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new solo >> guitar >> improvisation CD on. >> >> I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and >> awe inspiring. >> It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play >> electric guitar >> for the rest of my life. >> >> Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning track is >> just beautiful: >> abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if any of >> you were fortunate >> to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year, >> it is along >> the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater >> photography >> from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. >> >> I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. >> >> In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album about the >> intersection of different >> personal practise and their attached intimacies." >> >> You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. >> >> It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want >> to >> start >> plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. >> >> That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. >> >> A beautiful and thought provoking record. I highly recommend it if you >> are in search of >> either beauty or musical inspiration. >> >> rick walker >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 00:03:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A36843BE71; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD From: looppool@cruzio.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Krispen asked: "Someone was telling me, maybe you Rick? that Kaiser has been experimenting wiht a new technique of playing, where what he played was not directly intentional or completely a product of direct consciousness. . I guess he was experimeting by talking or doing other things while he was playing the guitar, so that it lessened the intentionality of his playing, thereby making it more random and new. Did you hear this too? It is as if he were distancing himself from the guitar and letting this body play. Maybe it was someone at BCIMF who told me." Yes, Kris, that was me. Henry told me about this when he surprised me the last time we performed at the Luggage Store as a duo and asked me if he minded if he told a story while we played. I said sure and played even quieter than I had been (he had surprised be before that by asking me to play only acoustically and without microphones, which was something I hadn't done (except on my front porch) in ten years of performance...........that was a challenge as the volume levels of percussion tend to be a lot louder than with acoustic guitar. He then applied the same modus operandi when he and Arild Andersen and I improvised at the looping festival two years ago. It's funny, because we've laughed about it since, but I am such a musical empath that I found it difficult not to try and play with what he was playing. I even confessed to him (and he's such a sweet open guy guy that it was really nice that he heard my confession with total good humor) that I had really wanted to do some grooving with Arild at that show but that it seemed innappropriate given the way his approach works. But Henry surprised me again (that's a wonderful quality in a musician) and said it would have been fine to have groove with him; that it could provide interesting results. He then gave me a duo CD where he used that approach with a really inside pianist, who payed inside for the whole CD. Henry has really challenged me and challenged the way I do things in a very good way. I'm not sure I want to use his approach , personally, because it's just not what i hear or don't hear (for that matter) in my head, but I've had to go back and completely recontextualize my tendency towards musical empathy and 'support' playing. I've been a professional rhythm section member all of my life and made hundreds of records and dozens of tours where I was expected to groove whatever I did so this is a wonderful way of opening me up. I really appreciate Henry's effect on me. I think it's made me a better player and , certainly, a better 'free' player. I don't know though, whether he used that approach on this record. It doesn't sound like it to me, because he will play little beautiful music phrases and the instant you think he's going somewhere, he'll turn on a dime and go elsewhere. considering that approach, it's a beautiful record to listen to even from a formal melodists standpoint. One of my favorite favorites of his large catalogue in my book. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 02:28:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F79F3BE71; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: Subject: RE: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:28:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcoeBLqZT2bNbvNFSeaCW2w+ZG0u/QAFBfJg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Yep that's correct M. Korg DT-7 and a momentary footswitch, there may be other tuners this works with too but the DT-7 has an actual mute jack. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Mech [mailto:mech@m3ch.net] Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:46 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" At 8:30 AM -0700 8/15/09, ditch wrestler wrote: >I think it was a while back that somebody said by putting a latched >or unlatched footswitch into an effect pedal's 'tuner out' plug >would act as a kill switch, muting all that was going through the >pedal. I think I know the trick you're talking about, and you're having trouble finding it (I think) 'cause a couple of your details are munged. I believe you're referring to a trick discovered by our own William Walker while using one of the Korg tuners. There are a couple of the Korg models that have an input for a pedal to be used as a "Mute" switch. You can attach a unlatched footswitch (like a Roland FS-series switch) into this connector and use it as a 'killswitch' to create your own gating effects. I'm sure that if you search back for Bill's posts looking for "Korg tuner" you'll probably find the thread you're searching for.... --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 02:32:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C61A3BE71; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Message-id: <579B4D2D163E401BB0C68ADE97E4F7B8@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:32:11 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <2HyZQB.A.6yH.s-2hKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:32:12 +0000 (UTC) It's realllly easy to instally a momentary switch if anybody else is looking to make noises like that. Lots of mods can be made if you can overcome the "fear factor" of doing something new. \t ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Walker" To: Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: RE: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" > > Yep that's correct M. Korg DT-7 and a momentary footswitch, there may > be > other tuners this works with too but the DT-7 has an actual mute jack. > Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Mech [mailto:mech@m3ch.net] > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:46 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" > > At 8:30 AM -0700 8/15/09, ditch wrestler wrote: >>I think it was a while back that somebody said by putting a latched >>or unlatched footswitch into an effect pedal's 'tuner out' plug >>would act as a kill switch, muting all that was going through the >>pedal. > > I think I know the trick you're talking about, and you're having > trouble finding it (I think) 'cause a couple of your details are > munged. > > I believe you're referring to a trick discovered by our own William > Walker while using one of the Korg tuners. There are a couple of the > Korg models that have an input for a pedal to be used as a "Mute" > switch. You can attach a unlatched footswitch (like a Roland > FS-series switch) into this connector and use it as a 'killswitch' to > create your own gating effects. > > I'm sure that if you search back for Bill's posts looking for "Korg > tuner" you'll probably find the thread you're searching for.... > > --m. > -- > _____ > "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 04:52:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D0903BE79; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:52:45 +0900 To: , From: Mech Subject: RE: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:52:52 +0000 (UTC) At 7:28 PM -0700 8/15/09, William Walker wrote: > Yep that's correct M. Korg DT-7 and a momentary footswitch, there may be >other tuners this works with too but the DT-7 has an actual mute jack. Korg DT-7: that's it! It was 4 in the morning when I posted that last reply, and I was too tired to go downstairs and check the model. And if I didn't already say it when you first posted that tip: thanks, Bill! I'd been just about to the point of trying to kludge together something similar myself, and I tend to burn things when I plug in a soldering iron -- myself, the cat, the house down, etc. But I was able to find a DT-7 that was NOS in a local music shop (they've recently been discontinued, I'm afraid). So a heartfelt "thank you" from both myself and my fire insurance company is quite in order. :) --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 08:26:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 189F03BE75; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 244278661/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.152.134/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.152.134 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtABAP5eh0pPTpiG/2dsb2JhbAAI0TOEGQWKOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,389,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="244278661" Message-ID: <4A87C2A8.9060007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:26:16 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" References: <948716.84604.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <948716.84604.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:26:15 +0000 (UTC) ditch wrestler wrote: > > I think it was a while back that somebody said by putting a latched or > unlatched footswitch into an effect pedal's 'tuner out' plug would act > as a kill switch, muting all that was going through the pedal. > > I've poked through the archive but couldn't find the original post and a > trip this morning to two LMS's came up empty as neither had a pedal with > a 'tuner out'. > > Does anybody else remember this? Could somebody with this a 'tuner out' > pedal & a footswitch try it out for me? I expect what you want is an unlatched footswitch for stuttering sound. As to whether it works with your effect pedal...weell no-body can tell you. It depends on the circuit, which depends on *which* fx pedal you use. Only thing to do is try it with any fx peds you have and see if it works. (more likely to work on cheaper ones) hope that helps andy butler ..and you don't need to buy a Korg tuner, tho' I expect that would also work. > > > Ted H. > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking for the perfect gift?* Give the gift of Flickr!* > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 08:52:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95BEC3BE75; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:52:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 247604139/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.152.134/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.152.134 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtABAFJlh0pPTpiG/2dsb2JhbAAI0SiEGQWKOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,389,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="247604139" Message-ID: <4A87C8D9.7020509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:52:41 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:52:37 +0000 (UTC) looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new solo > guitar > improvisation CD on. > > I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and > awe inspiring. > It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play > electric guitar > for the rest of my life. > > Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning track is > just beautiful: > abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if any of > you were fortunate > to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year, > it is along > the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater > photography > from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. Make sure you see Herzog's "Wild Blue Yonder" for some simply amazing underwater photos by Henry. Also "Encounters at the End of the World " has some Henry shots, and shows him playing. > > I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. > > In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album about the > intersection of different > personal practise and their attached intimacies." > > You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. > > It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want to > start > plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. I had Kaiser's "It's a Wonderful Life" since my pre-loop days. Could never figure how he did it. ...it was a digital delay with carefully set up square wave modulation, ( and if anyone wants to try a plugin that does that, please ask (Win only) ) > > That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. > Well, you sold me on it :-) ...can't find a source tho' :-( andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 10:45:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F35FA3BE77; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 498 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:45:55 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=52En4kAQKNXJdE9fVrf32oflhTCsstin76LF0h9gIG4=; b=Mumnya5gq7dp2qlppkpn7cS2+8oRDigsuumK5aSATPoyKm4xoWp6Q9G/Zx+G2GHZrJ W4vXgagSXnl330K7Dg+ZGt1xgvYmCfYMyBnrqRpEx6ntCRdBtM6HUT459sstgFYqsjuk i8wv+GRsQ/Ha1l1+3AkKE6HT0jkVlUp7y/wZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GUW/nA5M+HgFgCOTVV/EbT89eUuR5s7JlmoFqHGkQSQ/nwc+QRTHfDVpft6JT52RcQ Vcb6A2O5kPVxU8tIIe/fvfY62x88HYe1h6GPyPhACZGEzdHUvNRExM5xbOC8lfOuZMB/ Ho3QS7lXcRpR0D4kK6do88EkPIqRNu/6NAIJM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A87C8D9.7020509@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A87C8D9.7020509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:37:36 +0200 Message-ID: <928849410908160337l45c4d263x537111cd94b41bc1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646da6cb4b19704713fdfce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:45:55 +0000 (UTC) --00163646da6cb4b19704713fdfce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i can't find it either On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM, andy butler wrote: > looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > > I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new solo >> guitar >> improvisation CD on. >> >> I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and >> awe inspiring. >> It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play >> electric guitar >> for the rest of my life. >> >> Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning track is >> just beautiful: >> abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if any of >> you were fortunate >> to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year, >> it is along >> the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater >> photography >> from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. >> > > Make sure you see Herzog's "Wild Blue Yonder" for some simply > amazing underwater photos by Henry. > Also "Encounters at the End of the World " has some Henry shots, > and shows him playing. > > >> I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. >> >> In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album about the >> intersection of different >> personal practise and their attached intimacies." >> >> You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. >> >> It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want to >> start >> plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. >> > > I had Kaiser's "It's a Wonderful Life" since my pre-loop days. > Could never figure how he did it. > ...it was a digital delay with carefully set up square wave modulation, > ( and if anyone wants to try a plugin that does that, please ask (Win only) > ) > > >> That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. >> >> > Well, you sold me on it :-) > ...can't find a source tho' :-( > > andy > > > > > > --00163646da6cb4b19704713fdfce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i can't find it either

On Sun, Aug 16= , 2009 at 10:52 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
looppool@cruzio.co= m wrote:

I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new so= lo
guitar
improvisation CD on.

I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and=
awe inspiring.
It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play
electric guitar
for the rest of my life.

Called 'where endless meets disappearing', =A0this long droning tra= ck is
just beautiful:
abstract, melodic, =A0fractured, =A0soothing. =A0 It has it all and if any = of
you were fortunate
to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last yea= r, it is along
the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater
photography
from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver.

Make sure you see Herzog's "Wild Blue Yonder" for some simply=
amazing underwater photos by Henry.
Also "Encounters at the End of the World " has some Henry shots,<= br> and shows him playing.


I can imagine being underwater listening to this music.

In the liner notes, he calls this opus, =A0".....a concept album about= the
intersection of different
personal practise and their attached intimacies."

You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing.

It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want to<= br> start
plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways.

I had Kaiser's "It's a Wonderful Life" since my pre-loop = days.
Could never figure how he did it.
...it was a digital delay with carefully set up square wave modulation,
( and if anyone wants to try a plugin that does that, please ask (Win only)= )


That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose.


Well, you sold me on it :-)
...can't find a source tho' :-(

andy






--00163646da6cb4b19704713fdfce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 11:43:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D72F23BE73; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250422999; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=9NogZpt5hAxIzHtD6b3eamON8pE=; b=U8QO8HCFWU5g7Y17WmmB/YJxJ8f+E9TsgvAs2M1WEiGPO3NY1vHs1uk9B6KtPPA+ oo/WsexGkLPp4xVhTPHl4nu5XxsH7ftRYLQWzUSHucUfBTa5Q0UYkebJfyHf+MqJ; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lVjZD_hLAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=FcAFIstCAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=eCd8MijX4GpsdVgIG4MA:9 a=SueYp1EcW6-LImv8AOIA:7 a=0fSnlpX5RG-iQH0ZRrnscEbFiskA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=NV0LgFqsyRYA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=6bokwZWFY37S1Hs2qSEA:9 a=92-SSQyyKfnVAehLn2EA:7 a=LbuLigWlUGbJCPvc8q3PD6OK-FkA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001201ca1e67$08d4d0b0$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4A87C8D9.7020509@tiscali.co.uk> <928849410908160337l45c4d263x537111cd94b41bc1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:45:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA1E45.8176E570" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:43:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA1E45.8176E570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where Endless Meets disappearing Henry Kaiser http://www.balancepointacoustics.com/ j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Doc Rossi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:37 AM Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD i can't find it either On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM, andy butler = wrote: looppool@cruzio.com wrote: I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's = new solo guitar improvisation CD on. I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just = beautiful and awe inspiring. It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play electric guitar for the rest of my life. Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning = track is just beautiful: abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if = any of you were fortunate to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival = last year, it is along the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene = underwater photography from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. Make sure you see Herzog's "Wild Blue Yonder" for some simply amazing underwater photos by Henry. Also "Encounters at the End of the World " has some Henry shots, and shows him playing. I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album = about the intersection of different personal practise and their attached intimacies." You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me = want to start plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. I had Kaiser's "It's a Wonderful Life" since my pre-loop days. Could never figure how he did it. ...it was a digital delay with carefully set up square wave = modulation, ( and if anyone wants to try a plugin that does that, please ask = (Win only) ) That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. Well, you sold me on it :-) ...can't find a source tho' :-( andy ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA1E45.8176E570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where Endless=20 Meets disappearing
Henry Kaiser
http://www.balancepointaco= ustics.com/
 
 
j
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Doc = Rossi=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 = 6:37=20 AM
Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo = CD

i can't find it either

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM, andy butler = <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=20 wrote:
looppool@cruzio.com=20 wrote:

I=20 got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new = solo
guitar
improvisation CD on.

I'm listening to the = title=20 track right now and it is just beautiful and
awe = inspiring.
It makes=20 me want to throw away all of my instruments and only = play
electric=20 guitar
for the rest of my life.

Called 'where endless = meets=20 disappearing',  this long droning track is
just=20 beautiful:
abstract, melodic,  fractured,  soothing. =  =20 It has it all and if any of
you were fortunate
to have = caught=20 Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year, it is=20 along
the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene = underwater
photography
from under the Antarctic ice caps as = a=20 professional diver.

Make sure you see Herzog's = "Wild=20 Blue Yonder" for some simply
amazing underwater photos by = Henry.
Also=20 "Encounters at the End of the World " has some Henry shots,
and = shows him=20 playing.


I=20 can imagine being underwater listening to this music.

In = the liner=20 notes, he calls this opus,  ".....a concept album about=20 the
intersection of different
personal practise and their = attached=20 intimacies."

You get this concept viscerally, just = listening to the=20 playing.

It just made me completely forget about my small = woes and=20 makes me want to
start
plugging gear in and using it in new, = undiscovered ways.

I had Kaiser's "It's a = Wonderful=20 Life" since my pre-loop days.
Could never figure how he did = it.
...it=20 was a digital delay with carefully set up square wave = modulation,
( and=20 if anyone wants to try a plugin that does that, please ask (Win = only)=20 )


That's=20 a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I=20 suppose.


Well, you sold me on it = :-)
...can't=20 find a source tho' :-(

andy






------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA1E45.8176E570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 11:47:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE95B3BE71; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005e01ca1e67$56631800$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <4A87C8D9.7020509@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Another virtual gig Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:47:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Yes, it's happening again. This Sunday, 16 August I'll be doing another of my 'Sunday Soundings' live broadcasts of solo improvised music on Ustream.TV. It's at 5:30pm UK time. International time here: http://tinyurl.com/qr9d2m There will, no doubt be a fair amount of loopage involved. You can watch live and join in the interactive chat by following this link: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain There are also archived recordings of my previous broadcasts, which can be viewed any time. I will probably do something more guitar-based this time, but as usual there may be some surprises. Thanks to everyone who has been joining me for these sessions. It's great to be able to reach people all over the world in this way. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch/listen, and I'm very grateful for all your kind comments and words of encouragement. Hope you can join me. Love and best wishes to you all Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 15:54:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49AEE3BE77; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250438095; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=GRJ1yM4NDkOvPexWn5E1s8nT4do=; b=kmib4l3zmKuqNnFeDpmWmCGZ4hLqfFOqqVZ5p8QFuLmJRqkhBW7j0IYN+xWn4O+k CaffHb246lUrLPJ+6NbsY5OUxcXZoZjWjcm15TDpXTC1vqOTzO4jPacXwCz1GHxg; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kx_2D3HVAAAA:8 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=zQiYORMAAAAA:8 a=R6Ri3LlkA4NHO8xnY3AA:9 a=sCJKHsi5hBy5tAcpz90A:7 a=eoSzxhOp3ANRfth70LaUcFaFUG4A:4 a=wDdADeS8CmIA:10 a=TlnOPt13aEMA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=BAJq6lBvVEoA:10 a=0qoIXS4NtlahZ778:21 a=-Sff_gwDMQHmcMtU:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01ca1e8a$2e70e070$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <20090815163504.F72AE.37285.root@ispmxfep10-z02> Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:56:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:54:56 +0000 (UTC) > Mr Kaiser doesn't get enough credit when it comes to the history of > looping. His piece "It's a Wonderful Life" is a stellar example of the > genre.. btw, that is availiable here: http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2009/08/henry-kaiser-solo-guitar.html Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "Krispen Hartung" Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD > This is the CD Damon Smith put out on Balancepoint? I haven't heard it > yet, but it's on my wish list.. > > I don't think that the speaking/playing thing is all that new to Kaiser. > He's done it before ( "Meet the Flintstones" off of Lemon Fish Tweezer > comes to mind ), I believe he got the habit from Derek Bailey who did > fairly often.. > > It does open improvisational doors. ( Davey Williams once told me he would > practice guitar while reading a book..) > > Mr Kaiser doesn't get enough credit when it comes to the history of > looping. His piece "It's a Wonderful Life" is a stellar example of the > genre.. > > > > > I guess that was my first post... > > > Cheers! > > Doug H > ---- Krispen Hartung wrote: >> Someone was telling me, maybe you Rick? that Kaiser has been >> experimenting >> wiht a new technique of playing, where what he played was not directly >> intentional or completely a product of direct consciousness. . I guess he >> was experimeting by talking or doing other things while he was playing >> the >> guitar, so that it lessened the intentionality of his playing, thereby >> making it more random and new. Did you hear this too? It is as if he >> were >> distancing himself from the guitar and letting this body play. Maybe it >> was someone at BCIMF who told me. >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >I woke up feeling kind of blue this morning; quarantined for a few days >> > with a nasty >> > roto virus that my wife and I caught (not swine flu, thank god), >> > sealed >> > inside the house >> > because the Lockheed Fire smoke is so bad in Santa Cruz now..... with >> > big >> > industrial HEPA filter >> > fans on high (I'm sooooo sick of the sound of those fans on high). >> > >> > I got up, made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new >> > solo >> > guitar >> > improvisation CD on. >> > >> > I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and >> > awe inspiring. >> > It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play >> > electric guitar >> > for the rest of my life. >> > >> > Called 'where endless meets disappearing', this long droning track is >> > just beautiful: >> > abstract, melodic, fractured, soothing. It has it all and if any of >> > you were fortunate >> > to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last >> > year, >> > it is along >> > the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater >> > photography >> > from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. >> > >> > I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. >> > >> > In the liner notes, he calls this opus, ".....a concept album about >> > the >> > intersection of different >> > personal practise and their attached intimacies." >> > >> > You get this concept viscerally, just listening to the playing. >> > >> > It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want >> > to >> > start >> > plugging gear in and using it in new, undiscovered ways. >> > >> > That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music, I suppose. >> > >> > A beautiful and thought provoking record. I highly recommend it if you >> > are in search of >> > either beauty or musical inspiration. >> > >> > rick walker >> > >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 16:00:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D6443BE7C; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b98fea28-4896-4b63-a405-6a72c36c21ce_" X-Originating-IP: [83.100.152.177] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RIP Les Paul Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:59:13 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000c01ca1e8a$2e70e070$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <20090815163504.F72AE.37285.root@ispmxfep10-z02> <000c01ca1e8a$2e70e070$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2009 15:59:13.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FD97BC0:01CA1E8A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:00:16 +0000 (UTC) --_b98fea28-4896-4b63-a405-6a72c36c21ce_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable really sad to hear the news that Les Paul has died ages 94. =20 "He is responsible for hits "Brazil"=2C "Vaya Con Dios"=2C =93Mockin=92 Bir= d Hill=94=2C =93How High the Moon=94 and album =93Chester and Lester.=94 He= completed one of his first solid body guitars in 1951 after perfecting it = over a period of 10 years. Les Paul made advances in the music recording pr= ocess through tape delay=2C playback speeds=2C close-in microphones for voc= als and multitrack engineering." =20 what a guy=2C whotouched all our lives without even meeting many of us=2C m= y sympathies go out to all who knew him at this time. =20 Phill =20 _________________________________________________________________ Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. =20 http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=3DT010MSN07A0716U= --_b98fea28-4896-4b63-a405-6a72c36c21ce_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable really sad =3Bto hear the news that Les Paul has died ages 94.
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Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free = winks=2C emoticons=2C display pics=2C and more. Get Them Now = --_b98fea28-4896-4b63-a405-6a72c36c21ce_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 17:56:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD0453BE7E; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "William Walker \(William Walker\)" Subject: Concert at Kuumbwa Thursday Aug 20 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:54:20 -0700 Message-ID: <2A38B50672B24C6E9E1A531F219FC937@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA1E5F.F8945EC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoempTdBys6p0ovR7WsVhQ9M7wDLA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:56:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA1E5F.F8945EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear friends, I will be playing an opening set this Thursday Aug 20th at 8 p.m., at the Kuumbwa Jazz Center in support of the very talented Harpist/pianist/singer/songwriter, Jesse Autumn, who will be showcasing material for her upcoming CD release ably assisted by the great cellist/ multi instrumentalist, Barry Phillips. Hope you can make it. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA1E5F.F8945EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear friends,

I will be playing an opening set this Thursday Aug = 20th  at 8 p.m., at the Kuumbwa Jazz Center in support of the very = talented Harpist/pianist/singer/songwriter, Jesse Autumn,  who will be showcasing material for her upcoming CD = release ably assisted by the great cellist/ multi instrumentalist, Barry =  Phillips.

Hope you can make it.

 Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA1E5F.F8945EC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 18:29:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96123BE80; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 244486558/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.152.134/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.152.134 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgBAMrsh0pPTpiG/2dsb2JhbAAI0ViEGQWKOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,390,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="244486558" Message-ID: <4A88500D.4020002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:29:33 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD..and more References: <20090815163504.F72AE.37285.root@ispmxfep10-z02> <000c01ca1e8a$2e70e070$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000c01ca1e8a$2e70e070$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Duke wrote: >> Mr Kaiser doesn't get enough credit when it comes to the history of >> looping. His piece "It's a Wonderful Life" is a stellar example of >> the genre.. > > btw, that is availiable here: > http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2009/08/henry-kaiser-solo-guitar.html > > Jeff > that one on FLAC, rather than mp3 here http://www.avantgardeproject.org/archive.htm also a couple of earlier Kaiser albums, ..and a whole load of "avant garde" classical stuff andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 20:16:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31DF93BE7F; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoEAOMBiEpMQghr/2dsb2JhbACDMEIgjQPAewmEEAU X-Vipre-Scanned: 004E73F50014D9004E7542-TDI Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: 08.18.09 > DECADE! The PiNG's 10th ANNiVERSARY Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:16:03 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000901ca1eae$60f963e0$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:16:05 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TUESDAY AUGUST 18TH . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents DECADE! THE PiNG's 10th ANNiVERSARY featuring WALLY & CJ JERICHO + KALTE + dreamSTATE + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market . just south of College. Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 (Note - As there's 3 acts we'll strive to start promptly.) . Wally & CJ Jericho . On August 17th 1999, Wally Jericho brought his horns and other musical toys out to perform at the very first PiNG. Now, 10 years later, we've invited Wally back to bring the decade around full-circle. Wally will be performing with a new generation - his son, CJ Jericho on guitar. http://www.wallyjericho.com . Kalte . Deane Hughes of Akumu and rik maclean of mara's torment are pleased to present their collaborative ambient/abstract project Kalte as part of THE AMBiENT PiNG's 10th anniversary celebrations. The music of Kalte crosses a range of electronic sub-genres including zero-bpm, musique concr=E9te and deep ambient to produce dense and eerie soundscapes. Using the process of improvised tonal manipulation found on their releases "The Lanthanide Series" (Stasisfield, 2008) and "Glaciations" (Dark Winter, 2009), Deane and rik will be sharing Kalte's musical vision of isolation and darkness in a live setting for the very first time. Also in celebration of the PiNG's 10th, Deane is releasing his new DVD from AKUMU, "Tapeten: Video Anthology 2005-2008." The DVD is a collection of experimental and abstract videos spanning 3 years of AKUMU's visuals, re-mixed in 5.1 surround sound and available for the first time at the PiNG! For more information about Kalte and to download exclusive 'net only releases, please visit http://www.kaltemusic.com . dreamSTATE . Electronic soundscape artists Scott M2 and Jamie Todd of dreamSTATE played the third PING event on August 31st, 1999. They began curating THE AMBiENT PiNG in January 2000 and after presenting hundreds of PiNG concerts across the city are very proud to perform at the PiNG's Tenth Anniversary. Invited by rik of the ping things label to release a new album for the occasion, dreamSTATE have just completed "a decade dreaming", a selection of soundscapes recorded live at their PiNG performances throughout the last 10 years. Perhaps you were at some of those shows. Please join dreamSTATE again as they present a set of old and very new works for 2009. http://www.dreamstate.to . General Chaos Visuals . Stephen Lindsey and Eric Siegerman have long defined the visual style of the PiNG with their unique analog light paintings. They are also the artists who hold the record for most PINGs played. We are thrilled that General Chaos will be returning again to illuminate this event. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . check out ping things latest free downloadable net label release: "a decade dreaming" by dreamSTATE. ping things is very pleased to announce that their latest net release is "a decade dreaming" by dreamSTATE. Released to coincide with the PiNG's 10th anniversary, "a decade dreaming" features a selection of live performances by dreamSTATE spanning ten years of concerts at THE AMBiENT PiNG which celebrates both the music and the PiNG community of the last decade. With guest performances by Eric Hopper of Sylken, Alan Bloor of Pholde/Knurl, Jim Field of Spacenoiz, James Johnson, Wally Jericho, and Cheryl O, "a decade of dreaming" is a beautiful collection of music that captures the essence of dreamSTATE and the PiNG itself. >From the smooth pads of "Soundscape for Richard Wright", through the delicate melodies of "Jharna Revealed", to "Premillennial Landscape #1" and its celestial tones, "a decade dreaming" is a fabulous release that ping things is delighted to be able to share with you. "a decade dreaming" is available for free download as a 110 Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Scott M2 and Jamie Todd 1999-2009 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. For extended liner notes from "a decade dreaming", please visit: http://www.dreamstate.to/decade Download "a decade dreaming" by dreamSTATE here: http://pingthings.blogspot.com/2009/08/download-decade-dreaming-by-dreams= tat e.html or via a tiny URL here: http://tiny.cc/ySYIs ping things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Looking for something more to plug into, then don't forget to check out the other free downloadable net label releases from ping things: . subduction current (iNTHiSHOUSE) . Spatial Correlation (Les Landes) . Phil Ogison (The Perfect City) . Andrew Duke (Aqua) . Nunc Stans (Land) . Ortiz (Where did we come from defcon?) . mara's torment (tactile) . Building Castles Out of Matchsticks (October Sky) . Remora (Ensoulment) . Panoramaroid (Music for Travellers #2) . mara's torment (fluctuations) . Spatial Correlation (Love and the Fear of Poverty) . Reinholt56 (Mechanism of the Soul) All releases are available as free downloadable Zip files containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on these releases is copyright controlled by the original rights holders and may not be used or reproduced without the artists' express permission. http://www.pingthings.com/PTlabel.htm http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Also check out the ALMOST LiVE SERiES sets by Numina, MWVM, NAW, Panoramaroid, Remora, Resonant Drift, Salvagesound and URM archived and downloadable at: http://www.ambientpingradio.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 16 22:58:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 411153BE86; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=O0Eq6X2Ky8RFFopvEP5UWkP/BvVhF51vCDrbhv4H0Is=; b=T5RWjul8zvC3HLP252uuo6pwKOZq85JHeo717b3Qt7DSn3hDHmFKLrr+Nz20EBPtK8 elb5mzIWzJcS/yWOVjaapqNuD9xj4OvBB+hsG3ei1+d37TKnVvvqyd9QV1rWkvvfSHJH vV8nIxs23zw8VJCScsScMzyejBt73JGhEKwDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jNH2FsX92LpB64ulAcEQktqfEEjA+MRMNk2+hYi3qjBgQopGxTrKz0psQ17Srny3vk n723vOUVMPxvBlyDTEj+IydUBB32pGm0aoBIrcCgBti/TH2enw89nuglXTNsRGlDpS2T SWxdR9Qh/zON2nRXho6WzXXIWKVv8ICeA0doE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:58:25 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908161558n1230dff5g4570f41212128808@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Anyone in the sf bay area looking for a FCB1010? Mine is on craigslist. From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:58:26 +0000 (UTC) I'm happy with my new IK Stealth pedal with the Boss FS-6 dual foot switch and a second expression pedal, so I'm selling my FCB1010. I'd rather not have to ship it, so I'm going to try and sell it locally first. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/msg/1326626660.html -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 01:20:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F3A73BE87; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a6ff2c12-4ea9-4a6e-af3f-c6b5319f8222_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.142.227] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Henry Kaiser Solo CD Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:20:28 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2009 01:20:28.0377 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7C61C90:01CA1ED8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:20:29 +0000 (UTC) --_a6ff2c12-4ea9-4a6e-af3f-c6b5319f8222_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds good--I'll check it out. I just returned from The Beloved Festival --hung with Glenn Smith=2C our lo= oper bro and mighty vocalist=2C for awhile=3B saw so much beautiful music--= Fanna fi Allah continue to rock my Qwalli world=2C Bhagavan Das is amazing-= -hope I can sing like that at...what=2C almost 70?! Usted Dildar Hussein=2C= also mighty! So much more. I just was turned on to Berangere Maximin ---a French looper/found sound go= ddess--Check her out or maybe you have and I'm way late in the game. Peace J.D.Devros deafrose58 > Date: Sat=2C 15 Aug 2009 12:47:35 -0700 > Subject: Henry Kaiser Solo CD > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I woke up feeling kind of blue this morning=3B quarantined for a few day= s > with a nasty > roto virus that my wife and I caught (not swine flu=2C thank god)=2C sea= led > inside the house > because the Lockheed Fire smoke is so bad in Santa Cruz now..... with big > industrial HEPA filter > fans on high (I'm sooooo sick of the sound of those fans on high). >=20 > I got up=2C made a too strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new so= lo > guitar > improvisation CD on. >=20 > I'm listening to the title track right now and it is just beautiful and > awe inspiring. > It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play > electric guitar > for the rest of my life. >=20 > Called 'where endless meets disappearing'=2C this long droning track is > just beautiful: > abstract=2C melodic=2C fractured=2C soothing. It has it all and if an= y of > you were fortunate > to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last year= =2C=20 > it is along > the lines of things he played to his beautiful and serene underwater > photography > from under the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver. >=20 > I can imagine being underwater listening to this music. >=20 > In the liner notes=2C he calls this opus=2C ".....a concept album about = the > intersection of different > personal practise and their attached intimacies." >=20 > You get this concept viscerally=2C just listening to the playing. >=20 > It just made me completely forget about my small woes and makes me want t= o > start > plugging gear in and using it in new=2C undiscovered ways. >=20 > That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music=2C I suppose. >=20 > A beautiful and thought provoking record. I highly recommend it if you > are in search of > either beauty or musical inspiration. >=20 > rick walker >=20 _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live=2C you can organize=2C edit=2C and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery= --_a6ff2c12-4ea9-4a6e-af3f-c6b5319f8222_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds good--I'll check it out.
I just returned from The Beloved Festiva= l --hung with Glenn Smith=2C our looper bro and mighty vocalist=2C for awhi= le=3B saw so much beautiful music--Fanna fi Allah continue to rock my Qwall= i world=2C Bhagavan Das is amazing--hope I can sing like that at...what=2C = almost 70?! Usted Dildar Hussein=2C also mighty!
So much more.
I just= was turned on to Berangere Maximin ---a French looper/found sound goddess-= -Check her out or maybe you have and I'm way late in the game.
Peace
= J.D.Devros
deafrose58

>=3B Date: Sat=2C 15 Aug 2009 12:47:35 -0= 700
>=3B Subject: Henry Kaiser Solo CD
>=3B From: looppool@cruzio= .com
>=3B To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B= I woke up feeling kind of blue this morning=3B quarantined for a few days=
>=3B with a nasty
>=3B roto virus that my wife and I caught (not= swine flu=2C thank god)=2C sealed
>=3B inside the house
>=3B be= cause the Lockheed Fire smoke is so bad in Santa Cruz now..... with big
= >=3B industrial HEPA filter
>=3B fans on high (I'm sooooo sick of th= e sound of those fans on high).
>=3B
>=3B I got up=2C made a too= strong cup of coffee and put Henry Kaiser's new solo
>=3B guitar
&= gt=3B improvisation CD on.
>=3B
>=3B I'm listening to the title = track right now and it is just beautiful and
>=3B awe inspiring.
&g= t=3B It makes me want to throw away all of my instruments and only play
= >=3B electric guitar
>=3B for the rest of my life.
>=3B
>= =3B Called 'where endless meets disappearing'=2C this long droning track i= s
>=3B just beautiful:
>=3B abstract=2C melodic=2C fractured=2C = soothing. It has it all and if any of
>=3B you were fortunate
&g= t=3B to have caught Henry's exquisite solo set at the loop festival last ye= ar=2C
>=3B it is along
>=3B the lines of things he played to his= beautiful and serene underwater
>=3B photography
>=3B from under= the Antarctic ice caps as a professional diver.
>=3B
>=3B I can= imagine being underwater listening to this music.
>=3B
>=3B In = the liner notes=2C he calls this opus=2C ".....a concept album about the>=3B intersection of different
>=3B personal practise and their at= tached intimacies."
>=3B
>=3B You get this concept viscerally=2C= just listening to the playing.
>=3B
>=3B It just made me comple= tely forget about my small woes and makes me want to
>=3B start
>= =3B plugging gear in and using it in new=2C undiscovered ways.
>=3B >=3B That's a pretty damn good recommendation for any music=2C I suppos= e.
>=3B
>=3B A beautiful and thought provoking record. I highly= recommend it if you
>=3B are in search of
>=3B either beauty or = musical inspiration.
>=3B
>=3B rick walker
>=3B

<= hr />With Windows Live=2C you can organize=2C edit=2C and share your photos= . Click here. = --_a6ff2c12-4ea9-4a6e-af3f-c6b5319f8222_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 01:29:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A59ED3BE88; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250472540; bh=+KT86UN0Xz2hLYLNpdEU/jo+uBfIvT8s10sIgL1OZN8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zy735DimB6zy7zZcgC4BocQqChbdVs2A6bnLovM2wloXEcI8+6jqSAW6fZ4eHbtQkKyqfL0VNWk9X+aGAO4bRawjIffZTlA0ctvr7iXYxqyO7pDoe8ji/tE8AM6rfk2kEhDt5LqSDPbYMxIhCBXK4bmLP+PD2x4aIkbQNAe998s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n+Df99vL05gkx01T1FW2AUFEkuytm4IDUykUHO7EHYw1dE4LFoiaraVVXgk7MiWvgrXpPdUvgU1YgLRKQzVitGZ1SJAs3KLRPJVoARKm++A49iW+Au+LKBPWC/MQ9VSGQr/3s89n1pzrmsF9XZafWSFXVnm+rzhJpreygyDIkZY=; Message-ID: <471388.52528.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hHoKy48VM1njLdfHVkh.J7ViaTY0ZMqj0jiXX0LyApp9g4I6dJFbDq12oo8.YMSb_OU0xcgplU_Xpl0FMufDeZwMFEjqRjEuuaAM9bmHVnhjwhuUIT3iQI8D86SlUxw6bG0VHx3nYxZSCWd.z5OJ.X6nRzxm5QiejwXWREwhh4L.Mt9djglhnwV9ytvEkTLLcdK7yiSpG2CM1_GzggjTDuQUkttwKHGutiSigGKON0t5pgfAYc3HNy_AzAP0KvlVLQr_tG8.pvCZVQ1kHwkfXONNZcSk6FdEZv.RBATBErQ7.CLjUjo16GYdrgFsyglxmxbcl9dkV8OCI7wZsqlvOLzpZ9NiFu3KSzuf78Fqpf2v X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:29:00 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: Henry Kaiser Solo Cd... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-249659052-1250472540=:52528" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:29:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-249659052-1250472540=:52528 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for the heads up on the HK solo disc, i've been meaning to get his h= omage to derek bailey and his newish trio disc called Plane=A0Crash=A0(ther= e's a pretty good youtube ad for it from the record co that produced it)...= . =A0 i will say that i have a # of HK cds (but not all, b/c he has a huge catalo= gue!!)=A0and they are all good, and in heavy rotation in my playing for a #= of yrs...he is definately a good listen if you're bored w/ your playing an= d need new ideas, b/c he seems to go a lot of different directions & uses a= # of unorthodox approaches...... ...also his DVD from '03 called "25 solos on 25 guitars" is quite enlighten= ing...and he does a few little looping things on there w/ his kleins, i'm a= ssuming he's using his eventide unit, he doesn't really explain anything, j= ust talks about the guitars and plays an improve to demo them (the teuffel = tesla gets an interesting noise workout & is one of my faves....). i also t= hink his 90 min guitar instruction tape from '91 (i think), is a good watch= , even though it is approaching 20 yrs old (& i did transfer my copy to dvd= for ease of watching..), he touches on a # of good ideas about improvising= , and he seems to stress the importance of playing like yourself....and he = also does a good demo of a few patches from the eventide h3000... again, thanks for the HK heads up... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen=0A=0A=0A --0-249659052-1250472540=:52528 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks for the heads up on the HK solo d= isc, i've been meaning to get his homage to derek bailey and his newish tri= o disc called Plane Crash (there's a pretty good youtube ad for i= t from the record co that produced it)....
 
i will say that i have a # of HK cds (but not all, b/c he has a huge c= atalogue!!) and they are all good, and in heavy rotation in my playing= for a # of yrs...he is definately a good listen if you're bored w/ your pl= aying and need new ideas, b/c he seems to go a lot of different directions = & uses a # of unorthodox approaches......
...also his DVD from '03 called "25 solos on 25 guitars" is quite enli= ghtening...and he does a few little looping things on there w/ his kleins, = i'm assuming he's using his eventide unit, he doesn't really explain anythi= ng, just talks about the guitars and plays an improve to demo them (the teu= ffel tesla gets an interesting noise workout & is one of my faves....).= i also think his 90 min guitar instruction tape from '91 (i think), is a g= ood watch, even though it is approaching 20 yrs old (& i did transfer m= y copy to dvd for ease of watching..), he touches on a # of good ideas abou= t improvising, and he seems to stress the importance of playing like yourse= lf....and he also does a good demo of a few patches from the eventide h3000= ...
again, thanks for the HK heads up...
s---

=0A=0A --0-249659052-1250472540=:52528-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 01:47:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 980EB3BE89; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5h9FajoGtU8HznXtzWFBki9baiu7ktwvO8CaykIoSvk=; b=VXdZTJE/UedNbHgu9RB3QoKajHcqs3v46JQ5PSUaTGpfyrdvTCqXbU68Bztg8piF5+ jgNFIOdXyEwzGqSLlRPypYgyRltyLmvXvusf16+LENCk/FRqZys5Q9dZE9QskpZiFdGC 05qx9x7gbje7ACdFX4tDmM8UdBG02XdNOopdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=EDd7meOIh0f1pMDYjwm36jWXdS0HTdf6MTO7gQdXAuRg2220cfExiK1SwnuTBdx6+B M5oapTNnzyJzM0F85b/eHJwt61mjcIXrIuecQY4xiK0o46vE89z2kt/eZ9Q5Sv9dwp9n z/GHkB+52G+1wlsZLdNqSnIbXUXIHF+Mgat+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:47:23 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908161847p51364692w257d484af2ca46e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Slightly OT: East of Where uStream video highlights From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0edb85523de04714c95a7 Resent-Message-ID: <8AupUC.A.qND.taLiKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:47:25 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0edb85523de04714c95a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've posted three videos from my live webcast last weekend with drummer/'found' percussionist Will Romano in a duo project we call East of Where . Early on we had some technical problems that precluded any looping in this show due to not being able to properly hear each other electronically. After the first two pieces I made the decision to by-pass all the audio hw and just use the built in computer mic for an ambient capturing which in a sense is what this project is more about - live real time playing and improv. It's only been recently that I've interjected looping into our collaboration. The unique quality about this duo is what my colleague Will brings to it. Around 2004 he began to depart from traditional drums and started experimenting with 'found' objects and sounds like HVAC tubing which was always a gas to see him bring on the stage. When I produced the *ReUse* CD this past spring for CT-Collective Will was one of the members doing a great live piece - *Clumps of Life*. The CD really pushed him heavy into the 'found' arena to the point that just about all of his 'kit' is found which to me has been really exciting to play off of. As an example in the videos you will notice a bicycle wheel suspended on a stand as if it were a cymbal. He uses this improvised instrument really creatively. Here are the links, the first one was the opening piece when we were still going through electronics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcQuYiRcB60 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlDO22hTn6U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TntQModTFbA Thanks for watching and listening. My next ustream will be next Sunday at 11 EST (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11). Will and I will do another EoW show sometime this fall. Kudos to Mr Moyes on an excellent show today btw. Good week Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --000e0ce0edb85523de04714c95a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've posted three videos from my live webcast last weekend with drummer= /'found' percussionist Will Romano in a duo project we call East of Where.

Early on we had some technical problems that precluded any looping in this = show due to not being able to properly hear each other electronically. =A0A= fter the first two pieces I made the decision to by-pass all the audio hw a= nd just use the built in computer mic for an ambient capturing which in a s= ense is what this project is more about - live real time playing and improv= . =A0It's only been recently that I've interjected looping into our= collaboration.

The unique quality about this duo is what my colleague = Will brings to it. =A0Around 2004 he began to depart from traditional drums= and started =A0experimenting with 'found' objects and sounds like = HVAC tubing which was always a gas to see him bring on the stage. =A0When I= produced the ReUse CD this past spring for CT-Collective Will was o= ne of the members doing a great live piece - Clumps of Life. =A0The = CD really pushed him heavy into the 'found' arena to the point that= just about all of his 'kit' is found which to me has been really e= xciting to play off of. =A0As an example in the videos you will notice a bi= cycle wheel suspended on a stand as if it were a cymbal. =A0He uses this im= provised instrument really creatively.

Here are the links, the first one was the opening piece= when we were still going through electronics.
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 = 10:11=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Music Release = for Motor=20 Neurones Disease

Ricky happy to support the need, I'll be doing similar = next=20 month I think for diabetes.  This is a good set of material = particularly=20 like the opening moments of Music Box that's very 'tribal', Black Ice = and=20 Dream are also fav's so far.  Best with this.

Jim

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ricky = Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btintern= et.com>=20 wrote:
Hello=20 all,

Apologies for the blanket email, but all for a good = cause. I'd=20 appreciate if you could pass this on via whatever medium you deem = fit. I=20 have put together a release of old tracks from 2006. The proceeds of = this=20 release will be donated to the Motor Neurones Disease Association. = Due to=20 the few cases of MND every year in the U.K, the research is = underfunded and=20 the care services are understaffed. To date, there is no known cure. = By=20 giving generously, you are helping researchers and carers for MND = throughout=20 the UK.

Donate/Buy the release here - http://shop.rickygraham.com
There is more = information=20 on the organisation at: www.mndani.com

You can make your own = donations at:=20 www.mndassociation.org/get_involved/donations/donations_f= orm.html

Thanks=20 to everyone who have been involved in these releases over the last = few=20 years. Please share this blog entry via email, facebook, twitter, = myspace,=20 etc. and help spread awareness of MND.

Thank you,

Ricky Graham =


--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse
music=20 links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm= usic
www.myspace.com/chinap= aintingmusic
www.myspace.com/ji= mgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm= usic

video=20 work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

social=20 networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinm= usic


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--_6d659054-2a3c-4b30-8059-ea4888c13ea9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 22 16:14:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65F023BF6D; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250957661; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=UHPq32FSIGhz/Ji4/wQssthct6A=; b=WmXxwWJnVXGyfBkNtOKviCeO4Y9NN9/TsCaSCibOrZvj8Dknx4iWj1H//6PPdwJX T9bTX4nYKJaCWMuYZxI6OGf/yRNFzV+fXe/3hAmqUiMCkcSYM4f4g4Ogaeldho+r; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=rM--izkqSJTAZoqFX7UA:9 a=JBI0I5kiHhyJUcXi4f64Xt8k7YAA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002401ca2343$9b44aa70$6d832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Rainer on fire at justin Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:14:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <_URGJC.A.olG.elBkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Rainers burning it up at http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs as I type! J From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 22 16:33:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E7563BF6B; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QadvGJiNhIdciTnrf5TIMaELpt9Km6IxDOQc1XHq7qE=; b=i6i9A3SrfexK7+3QOV53ppv8vjlvCavlUVhkqvf9ytpm5s2FBYCyuj/x62lAJ4YNsT 6r/YhNlDatlj4aAKAElrAtFwwE3/C15EiLhuhWNRqzi4ju2gKg2IZAO4ybYpCQ+V0zcx YkvZ18wC7OLgnHlW102tEzzfCy+jZRSIunjL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L8xu2xB8Z7kiQrQV0jDQAAlneCZ+lQ7OaZY4YD6pW8vKgQvgr85bmh69EmjhEHPXAZ 810Jyxfn392zD36Gjbd9N3RHEV1wIykmrjna7JBK9PT+DX9yNsDOYShrlDLav5N9PW5B rZyYI16/q6YeYxK9X2GnSCRrM4Jtb9hm7aZM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908211217k186f7e42pc364b9e2a329280c@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908211217k186f7e42pc364b9e2a329280c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:33:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Gig Info]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions this Saturday August 22nd, 1600 UTC From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <33ppY.A.XgH.A3BkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:33:04 +0000 (UTC) don't know how chat works ... is it text based or just cam? ... anyway, i'm in, and really like it! 2009/8/21, Rainer Straschill : > I know, I didn't do it last time, as I was in Berlin two weeks ago > without high-bandwidth internet access, but now... > > The MoinSound Studio Sessions are back! > > URL: http://justin.tv/moinlabs > Date/Time: Saturday August 22nd 2009, 1600 UTC > (for time zone conversion, see http://tinyurl.com/kruff8) > > Tune in for the latest in avantgarde madness, brought to your computer > screen live via the internet. No registration necessary! > > Looking forward to see you there! > > Rainer > > --- > http://moinlabs.de > http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs > http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs > http://justin.tv/moinlabs > http://vimeo.com/moinlabs > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ > http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 22 16:49:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3ED1F3BF7E; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM MacOS X Eudora Version 6.2J rev3.3 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:49:20 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: [OT] [TOKYO Sep 5th & 6th] Sunao Inami 2 Gigs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi LD, Sorry for off topic. This is my next gigs information in Tokyo. I guess it's exciting gigs for IDM/Rhythmic Noise/Abstract beats fans. [Saturday September 5th] Discord Proving Ground chap5.0 @ Ochiai Soup,Shinjuku,Tokyo 18:00 - 24:00 1,500 Yen http://www.geocities.jp/made_in_nakano/dpg/index.html [Sunday September 6th] VOMIT_1 @ BULLET'S, Nishiazabu,Tokyo 18:00 - 24:00 1,500 Yen http://www.bul-lets.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- p.s. My new CD "Disinfectant"just released on 21st August. 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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090822042324.5IQD1.156677.root@ispmxfep12-z02> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1871280830-1250963541=:92704" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:52:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-1871280830-1250963541=:92704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody want to play "spot the pedals" with that pic of Keith? That's obviously an RC20-XL on the table; my best guess for the other two p= edals is that the turquoise pedal is a Boss PS-5 Super Shifter and the blue= one is a MXR 6-band graphic equalizer. Rounding out the collection is a Behringer Xenyx 802 mixer and his ever-pre= sent radio.=A0=20 And if that's a metal necklace he's holding, I think he's trying to degauss= the pick-ups on that Steinberger. ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sat, 8/22/09, dohol1@windstream.net wrote: From: dohol1@windstream.net Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "ditch wrestler" Received: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 2:23 AM Here's a shot of the gear Rowe was using a few years ago.. http://home.att.ne.jp/theta/ny-jazz/keith_sc_03.jpg He's changed his set up again in the last year. I don't know what he's usin= g now.. ---- ditch wrestler wrote:=20 > =A0 > I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I had the fortune to=A0attended=A0an Eddie Pre= vost workshop and have dinner with him afterwards=A0- and=A0my favourite is= =A0"Newfoundland".=A0 (since we're posting 'blog links, it's here - http://= bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundland.html) >=20 > And "Duos for Doris" is very good=A0- Keith Rowe and John Tilbury (two lo= ng standing AMM members, though Keith left after Eddie indirectly slagged h= im in his last book). > =A0 > There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; though he's not the most visual = guy, what with the guitar on a table and all that... ;-) > =A0 > I've seen=A0numerous=A0pics of Keith's set-up (which pretty much changes = every gig) and I've spotted an=A0Boss RC-2 a few times.=A0 Now he seems to = be incorporating a laptop but I think he's still keeping a handful of pedal= s. > =A0 > As far as Eddie's recording, my vote's for his trio recording "The Virtue= in If" >=20 > =A0 > Ted=A0 H > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >=20 > --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Art Simon wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: Art Simon > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM >=20 >=20 > OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not ECM, but on ECM's > ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been An Ordinary Enough > Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually bought this one when it > came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing here is stellar, and > it's an all time favorite. Again, another long out-of-print impossible > to find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere: >=20 > http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough= -day-in.html >=20 > I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes this one. > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon >=20 >=20 =A0 =A0 =A0 _______________________________________________________________= ___ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the n= ew Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.co= m/webmessengerpromo.php =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AAsk a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go t= o Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com --0-1871280830-1250963541=:92704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Anybody want to play "spot the pedals" wi= th that pic of Keith?

That's obviously an RC20-XL on the table; my b= est guess for the other two pedals is that the turquoise pedal is a Boss PS= -5 Super Shifter and the blue one is a MXR 6-band graphic equalizer.
Rounding out the collection is a Behringer Xenyx 802 mixer and his ever-pr= esent radio. 

And if that's a metal necklace he's holding, I t= hink he's trying to degauss the pick-ups on that Steinberger.


te= d h.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On <= b>Sat, 8/22/09, dohol1@windstream.net <dohol1@windstream.net><= /b> wrote:

From: dohol1@windstream.net <= dohol1@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: "ditch wres= tler" <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>
Received: Saturday, August 22, 200= 9, 2:23 AM

Here's a shot of the gear Rowe w= as using a few years ago..


http://home.att.ne.jp/theta/ny= -jazz/keith_sc_03.jpg

He's changed his set up again in the last = year. I don't know what he's using now..
---- ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  
>= ; I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I had the fortune to attended an Edd= ie Prevost workshop and have dinner with him afterwards - and my = favourite is "Newfoundland".  (since we're posting 'blog links, i= t's here - http://bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundla= nd.html)
>
> And "Duos for Doris" is very good - Keit= h Rowe and John Tilbury (two long standing AMM members, though Keith left a= fter Eddie indirectly slagged him in his last book).
>  
>= There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; though he's not the most visual g= uy, what with the guitar on a table and all that... ;-)
>  
&= gt; I've seen numerous pics of Keith's set-up (which pretty much = changes every gig) and I've spotted an Boss RC-2 a few times.  No= w he seems to be incorporating a laptop but I think he's still keeping a ha= ndful of pedals.
>  
> As far as Eddie's recording, my vot= e's for his trio recording "The Virtue in If"
>
>  
&g= t; Ted  H
> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
>
> --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Art Simon <simart@g= mail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists?
&g= t; To: Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com
> Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM
&g= t;
>
> OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not EC= M, but on ECM's
> ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been A= n Ordinary Enough
> Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually boug= ht this one when it
> came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing h= ere is stellar, and
> it's an all time favorite. Again, another long out-of-print impossible
> to find album, but it's out there on the b= logosphere:
>
> http:= //mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough-day-in= .html
>
> I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes = this one.
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com=
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>
>


  &nb= sp;   ________________________________________________________________= __
Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try= the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php<= br>

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:23:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA2334.1F47A120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:23:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA2334.1F47A120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable looks about right, here is a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHnUVpiFHhmM Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ditch wrestler=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?) Anybody want to play "spot the pedals" with that pic of Keith? That's obviously an RC20-XL on the table; my best guess for the = other two pedals is that the turquoise pedal is a Boss PS-5 Super = Shifter and the blue one is a MXR 6-band graphic equalizer. Rounding out the collection is a Behringer Xenyx 802 mixer and = his ever-present radio. =20 And if that's a metal necklace he's holding, I think he's trying = to degauss the pick-ups on that Steinberger. ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sat, 8/22/09, dohol1@windstream.net = wrote: From: dohol1@windstream.net Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "ditch wrestler" Received: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 2:23 AM Here's a shot of the gear Rowe was using a few years ago.. http://home.att.ne.jp/theta/ny-jazz/keith_sc_03.jpg He's changed his set up again in the last year. I don't know = what he's using now.. ---- ditch wrestler wrote:=20 > =20 > I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I had the fortune to attended an = Eddie Prevost workshop and have dinner with him afterwards - and my = favourite is "Newfoundland". (since we're posting 'blog links, it's = here - http://bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundland.html) >=20 > And "Duos for Doris" is very good - Keith Rowe and John = Tilbury (two long standing AMM members, though Keith left after Eddie = indirectly slagged him in his last book). > =20 > There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; though he's not the = most visual guy, what with the guitar on a table and all that... ;-) > =20 > I've seen numerous pics of Keith's set-up (which pretty much = changes every gig) and I've spotted an Boss RC-2 a few times. Now he = seems to be incorporating a laptop but I think he's still keeping a = handful of pedals. > =20 > As far as Eddie's recording, my vote's for his trio = recording "The Virtue in If" >=20 > =20 > Ted H > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >=20 > --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Art Simon wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: Art Simon > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM >=20 >=20 > OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not ECM, but = on ECM's > ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been An = Ordinary Enough > Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually bought this one = when it > came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing here is = stellar, and > it's an all time favorite. Again, another long out-of-print = impossible > to find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere: >=20 > = http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough= -day-in.html >=20 > I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes this one. > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon >=20 >=20 = __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download = required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at = http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA2334.1F47A120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
looks about right, here is a = vid:
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DHnUVpiFHhmM
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ditch=20 wrestler
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 = 1:52=20 PM
Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: = ECM=20 guitarists?)


Anybody want to play "spot the pedals" with = that pic=20 of Keith?

That's obviously an RC20-XL on the table; my = best guess=20 for the other two pedals is that the turquoise pedal is a Boss = PS-5=20 Super Shifter and the blue one is a MXR 6-band graphic=20 equalizer.

Rounding out the collection is a Behringer = Xenyx 802=20 mixer and his ever-present radio. 

And if that's a = metal=20 necklace he's holding, I think he's trying to degauss the = pick-ups on=20 that Steinberger.


ted h.
Enemies are good for=20 self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Sat, 8/22/09,=20 dohol1@windstream.net <dohol1@windstream.net>=20 wrote:

From:=20 dohol1@windstream.net = <dohol1@windstream.net>
Subject: Re:=20 Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?)
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: "ditch wrestler"=20 <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>
Received: Saturday, August = 22,=20 2009, 2:23 AM

Here's a shot of the gear Rowe was = using a few=20 years ago..


http://home.att.ne.jp/theta/ny-jazz/keith_sc_03.jpg
He's=20 changed his set up again in the last year. I don't know what = he's=20 using now..
---- ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>= ;=20 wrote:
>  
> I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I = had the=20 fortune to attended an Eddie Prevost workshop and = have=20 dinner with him afterwards - and my favourite=20 is "Newfoundland".  (since we're posting 'blog = links, it's=20 here - http://bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundla= nd.html)
>=20
> And "Duos for Doris" is very good - Keith Rowe = and John=20 Tilbury (two long standing AMM members, though Keith left = after Eddie=20 indirectly slagged him in his last book).
> =  
>=20 There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; though he's not the = most=20 visual guy, what with the guitar on a table and all that...=20 ;-)
>  
> I've seen numerous pics = of=20 Keith's set-up (which pretty much changes every gig) and I've = spotted=20 an Boss RC-2 a few times.  Now he seems to be = incorporating=20 a laptop but I think he's still keeping a handful of = pedals.
>=20  
> As far as Eddie's recording, my vote's for his = trio=20 recording "The Virtue in If"
>
>  
> = Ted =20 H
> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner = Herzog
>=20
> --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
>
>
> From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>
>=20 Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists?
> To: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com
>=20 Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM
>
> =
>=20 OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not ECM, but = on=20 ECM's
> ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had = Been An=20 Ordinary Enough
> Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I = actually=20 bought this one when it
> came out. I think Keith Rowe's = guitar=20 playing here is stellar, and
> it's an all time = favorite. Again,=20 another long out-of-print impossible
> to find album, = but it's=20 out there on the blogosphere:
>
> http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been= -ordinary-enough-day-in.html
>=20
> I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes this=20 one.
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> myspace = [dot] com/artsimon
>
>


    =  =20 = __________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:34:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01CA2335.B641E0D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:34:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CA2335.B641E0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is another with I think an RC 2 and a Fuzz Factory, can't make the = rest out.=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkVKFqBjYaF8 j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?) looks about right, here is a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHnUVpiFHhmM Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ditch wrestler=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?) Anybody want to play "spot the pedals" with that pic of Keith? That's obviously an RC20-XL on the table; my best guess for = the other two pedals is that the turquoise pedal is a Boss PS-5 Super = Shifter and the blue one is a MXR 6-band graphic equalizer. Rounding out the collection is a Behringer Xenyx 802 mixer and = his ever-present radio. =20 And if that's a metal necklace he's holding, I think he's = trying to degauss the pick-ups on that Steinberger. ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sat, 8/22/09, dohol1@windstream.net = wrote: From: dohol1@windstream.net Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "ditch wrestler" Received: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 2:23 AM Here's a shot of the gear Rowe was using a few years ago.. http://home.att.ne.jp/theta/ny-jazz/keith_sc_03.jpg He's changed his set up again in the last year. I don't know = what he's using now.. ---- ditch wrestler wrote:=20 > =20 > I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I had the fortune to attended = an Eddie Prevost workshop and have dinner with him afterwards - and my = favourite is "Newfoundland". (since we're posting 'blog links, it's = here - http://bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundland.html) >=20 > And "Duos for Doris" is very good - Keith Rowe and John = Tilbury (two long standing AMM members, though Keith left after Eddie = indirectly slagged him in his last book). > =20 > There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; though he's not = the most visual guy, what with the guitar on a table and all that... ;-) > =20 > I've seen numerous pics of Keith's set-up (which pretty = much changes every gig) and I've spotted an Boss RC-2 a few times. Now = he seems to be incorporating a laptop but I think he's still keeping a = handful of pedals. > =20 > As far as Eddie's recording, my vote's for his trio = recording "The Virtue in If" >=20 > =20 > Ted H > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >=20 > --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Art Simon wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: Art Simon > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM >=20 >=20 > OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not ECM, = but on ECM's > ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been An = Ordinary Enough > Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually bought this = one when it > came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing here is = stellar, and > it's an all time favorite. Again, another long = out-of-print impossible > to find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere: >=20 > = http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough= -day-in.html >=20 > I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes this one. > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon >=20 >=20 = __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download = required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at = http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CA2335.B641E0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is another with I think an RC 2 = and a Fuzz=20 Factory, can't make the rest out.
 
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DkVKFqBjYaF8
 
j
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff=20 Duke
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 = 2:23=20 PM
Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: = ECM=20 guitarists?)

looks about right, here is a = vid:
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DHnUVpiFHhmM
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ditch=20 wrestler
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, August 22, = 2009 1:52=20 PM
Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: = ECM=20 guitarists?)


Anybody want to play "spot the pedals" with = that=20 pic of Keith?

That's obviously an RC20-XL on the table; = my best=20 guess for the other two pedals is that the turquoise pedal is = a Boss=20 PS-5 Super Shifter and the blue one is a MXR 6-band graphic=20 equalizer.

Rounding out the collection is a Behringer = Xenyx 802=20 mixer and his ever-present radio. 

And if that's = a metal=20 necklace he's holding, I think he's trying to degauss the = pick-ups on=20 that Steinberger.


ted h.
Enemies are good for=20 self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Sat, 8/22/09,=20 dohol1@windstream.net <dohol1@windstream.net> = wrote:

From:=20 dohol1@windstream.net = <dohol1@windstream.net>
Subject: Re:=20 Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?)
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: "ditch wrestler"=20 <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>
Received: Saturday, = August 22,=20 2009, 2:23 AM

Here's a shot of the gear Rowe was = using a few=20 years ago..


http://home.att.ne.jp/theta/ny-jazz/keith_sc_03.jpg
He's=20 changed his set up again in the last year. I don't know what = he's=20 using now..
---- ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>= ;=20 wrote:
>  
> I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I = had the=20 fortune to attended an Eddie Prevost workshop and = have=20 dinner with him afterwards - and my favourite=20 is "Newfoundland".  (since we're posting 'blog = links, it's=20 here - http://bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundla= nd.html)
>=20
> And "Duos for Doris" is very good - Keith Rowe = and=20 John Tilbury (two long standing AMM members, though Keith = left after=20 Eddie indirectly slagged him in his last book).
>=20  
> There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; = though he's=20 not the most visual guy, what with the guitar on a table and = all=20 that... ;-)
>  
> I've = seen numerous pics=20 of Keith's set-up (which pretty much changes every gig) and = I've=20 spotted an Boss RC-2 a few times.  Now he seems to = be=20 incorporating a laptop but I think he's still keeping a = handful of=20 pedals.
>  
> As far as Eddie's recording, = my=20 vote's for his trio recording "The Virtue in If"
> =
>=20  
> Ted  H
> Enemies are good for=20 self-definition. Werner Herzog
>
> --- On Thu, = 8/20/09,=20 Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> = wrote:
>
>
> From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>
>=20 Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists?
> To: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com
>=20 Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM
> =
>=20
> OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not = ECM,=20 but on ECM's
> ugly sister label Japo, AMM released = "It Had=20 Been An Ordinary Enough
> Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in = 1980. I=20 actually bought this one when it
> came out. I think = Keith=20 Rowe's guitar playing here is stellar, and
> it's an = all time=20 favorite. Again, another long out-of-print = impossible
> to=20 find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere:
> =
>=20 http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been= -ordinary-enough-day-in.html
>=20
> I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes = this=20 one.
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
>=20 myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>
> =


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Hi everyone,
 
I am having some issues synching my = Boss DR-880=20 with the a my Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro Plus running LoopIV v1.1=20 software.  I am not sure if I am having a problem or if what's = happening is=20 normal.
 
I have my DR-880 Midi Clock set to=20 "Interntal".  I have the Echoplex Quantize set to "Off", Sync = Parameter set=20 to "In", and 8ths/Cycle set to "8" respectively.
 
I then restart my drum pattern by = changing presets=20 back and forth to ensure the internal clock is reset properly.  = I've heard=20 on Boss Drum machines that the clock can get messed up if you don't = change=20 the patterns back and forth.  I then start the Drum machine.  = I can=20 see the Echoplex picking up Looptime and a little green LED picking up = the=20 tempo.  At this point all looks great.  I then proceed to = record a 1=20 or 2 measure guitar pattern.  When finished everything is in = "perfect"=20 synch.  I then solo over the top of my jam for about 2-3 = minutes.  It=20 is at this point that I start to "FEEL" like the beat and guitar part is = drifting slightly.  In fact, it sounds like the pattern may even be = fading.  ( Note that throughout my looping, I have the Feedback set = to=20 "100%" which is 127 I believe. )
 
Thus a question for Echoplex = users.  How long=20 can one expect the drum machine and loop to stay in synch?  Is it = normal=20 for the loop to fall apart after 2-3 minutes?
 
One other point.  When I detect a = slight "out=20 of synch" feeling, I usually tap the "Next Loop" on beat one and it = synchs the=20 loop back into position.  Thus I can continue the jam and people = won't=20 notice the loop drifting.
 
Basically, I am not sure why the loop = is in perfect=20 time ( it sounds that way ), and then shortly thereafter drifts.  I = should=20 also note that when I substitue my Echoplex for my Lexicon Jamman it = works=20 awesome. 
 
Thanks for any info or insight into = this=20 problem.
 
Jim
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-5709516-1250998680=:52502" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:38:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-5709516-1250998680=:52502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for some of the ideas on other ecm guitarists. there were a couple i was unfamiliar w/. =A0 i have watched the keith rowe vids, & read a # of interviews, i think his p= rocess is very interesting, he talks a lot about being influenced by painte= rs/visual artists (he was trained as a painter originally)-just very intere= sting... =A0 the funny thing in looking at the main list of guitarists, most of those gu= ys have been around since early 80s making music (frisell, torn, tibbetts, = etc)...i often wonder who are the ones today...or is the answer the folks o= n this list, many of whom i have discs from... oh well. whole new world i guess..... many thanks=A0 again... scott www.myspace.com/scotthansen=0A=0A=0A --0-5709516-1250998680=:52502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks for some of the ideas on other ec= m guitarists.
there were a couple i was unfamiliar w/.
 
i have watched the keith rowe vids, & read a # of interviews, i th= ink his process is very interesting, he talks a lot about being influenced = by painters/visual artists (he was trained as a painter originally)-just ve= ry interesting...
 
the funny thing in looking at the main list of guitarists, most of tho= se guys have been around since early 80s making music (frisell, torn, tibbe= tts, etc)...i often wonder who are the ones today...or is the answer the fo= lks on this list, many of whom i have discs from...
oh well. whole new world i guess.....
many thanks  again...
scott
www.myspace.com/scotthansen

=0A=0A=0A=0A = --0-5709516-1250998680=:52502-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 05:23:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E6323BEC2; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:23:36 UTC Message-ID: <15115508E1D04E998CBB847D39547C46@MichaelPC> From: To: References: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Nature loops Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:34:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E8_01CA2381.210C7BA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:23:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01CA2381.210C7BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks! Doign some night nature loops and trying to get out some of the sounds = of distant traffic. It seems like doign a high pass filter at about = 3Khz does a pretty good job and looking at the spectrum it's in the = ballpark but is there any research on this? Thanks! ~peace~ Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com www.twitter.com/plish www.trendhunter.com/zenstorming ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01CA2381.210C7BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey folks!
Doign some night nature loops and = trying to=20 get out some of the sounds of distant traffic.  It seems like doign = a high=20 pass filter at about 3Khz does a pretty good job and looking at the = spectrum=20 it's in the ballpark but is there any research on this?
 
Thanks!
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01CA2381.210C7BA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 07:57:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E9973BF47; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 247854500/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.220.28/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.220.28 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoIBAK2TkEpPTtwc/2dsb2JhbAAI0gmEGgWKXQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,259,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="247854500" Message-ID: <4A90F693.1040804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:58:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Dr-880 and Echoplex Synch Issues References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:57:49 +0000 (UTC) hi Jim, EDP should stay perfectly synched forever. Jim Atwood wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am having some issues synching my Boss DR-880 with the a my Gibson > Echoplex Digital Pro Plus running LoopIV v1.1 software. I am not sure > if I am having a problem or if what's happening is normal. > > I have my DR-880 Midi Clock set to "Interntal". I'd guess that's right >1 I have the Echoplex > Quantize set to "Off", doesn't matter > Sync Parameter set to "In", and 8ths/Cycle set to > "8" respectively. correct > > I then restart my drum pattern by changing presets back and forth to > ensure the internal clock is reset properly. I've heard on Boss Drum > machines that the clock can get messed up if you don't change the > patterns back and forth. I then start the Drum machine. I can see the > Echoplex picking up Looptime and a little green LED picking up the > tempo. Should also be a "led" display in the main display (bottom right). A small flash above the "E" of "MULTIPLE" to show sync received. Another flash above "L" when edp makes a correction to stay in synch. At this point all looks great. I then proceed to record a 1 or > 2 measure guitar pattern. When finished everything is in "perfect" > synch. I then solo over the top of my jam for about 2-3 minutes. It is > at this point that I start to "FEEL" like the beat and guitar part is > drifting slightly. In fact, it sounds like the pattern may even be > fading. ( Note that throughout my looping, I have the Feedback set to > "100%" which is 127 I believe. ) > If the loop is fading with fbk at 100%, then you must be in "Overdub", in which case synch will be lost. If you're not in overdub, then check the "Loop/Delay" param. (may be called something different if you have the black edp, I'm not sure) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 08:11:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D53F43BF44; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Jim Atwood" To: References: <4A90F693.1040804@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Dr-880 and Echoplex Synch Issues Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:11:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <9dZwnC.A.mRG.mmPkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, Thanks for the reply. I actually reversed everything and now I don't have any issues at all. The info that helped me is located at http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/techtip.php?find=05/12/2006 . It could just be the DR-880, but for now the two will not sync very long when the EDP is controlled by the Drum Machine. Actually, I feel the way it's setup now is better for me so I'm quite happy that my new setup works. Having the EDP in total control seems to be the ticket...for me anyway. Thanks again, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:58 AM Subject: Re: Dr-880 and Echoplex Synch Issues > hi Jim, > EDP should stay perfectly synched forever. > > > Jim Atwood wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am having some issues synching my Boss DR-880 with the a my Gibson >> Echoplex Digital Pro Plus running LoopIV v1.1 software. I am not sure >> if I am having a problem or if what's happening is normal. >> >> I have my DR-880 Midi Clock set to "Interntal". > > I'd guess that's right > >>1 I have the Echoplex >> Quantize set to "Off", > > doesn't matter > >> Sync Parameter set to "In", and 8ths/Cycle set to >> "8" respectively. > > correct > >> >> I then restart my drum pattern by changing presets back and forth to >> ensure the internal clock is reset properly. I've heard on Boss Drum >> machines that the clock can get messed up if you don't change the >> patterns back and forth. I then start the Drum machine. I can see the >> Echoplex picking up Looptime and a little green LED picking up the >> tempo. > > Should also be a "led" display in the main display (bottom right). > A small flash above the "E" of "MULTIPLE" to show sync received. > Another flash above "L" when edp makes a correction to stay in synch. > > > > > At this point all looks great. I then proceed to record a 1 or >> 2 measure guitar pattern. When finished everything is in "perfect" >> synch. I then solo over the top of my jam for about 2-3 minutes. It is >> at this point that I start to "FEEL" like the beat and guitar part is >> drifting slightly. In fact, it sounds like the pattern may even be >> fading. ( Note that throughout my looping, I have the Feedback set to >> "100%" which is 127 I believe. ) >> > > If the loop is fading with fbk at 100%, then you must be in "Overdub", > in which case synch will be lost. > If you're not in overdub, then check the "Loop/Delay" param. > (may be called something different if you have the black edp, I'm not > sure) > > andy > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.64/2320 - Release Date: 08/22/09 18:04:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 08:15:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1A493BF4B; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 251213380/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.220.28/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.220.28 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoIBANqXkEpPTtwc/2dsb2JhbAAI0guEGgWKXQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,259,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="251213380" Message-ID: <4A90FACD.9080301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:13 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Nature loops References: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> <15115508E1D04E998CBB847D39547C46@MichaelPC> In-Reply-To: <15115508E1D04E998CBB847D39547C46@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Don't know about research, but traffic noise has plenty of lo frequency content, and the high freqs drop off with distance. 3kHz sounds pretty high, obviously I can't tell without knowing what your "nature sounds" consist of, but most recordings I've made would be spoiled if there was nothing below 3k. I'd try the steepest possible hi pass filter and try and keep it as low down as possible to let the nature sounds sound "natural". 200Hz might be a good place to start. If your filter isn't so steep, then run it several times, rather than putting the frequency up. If you have Audition (aka Cool Edit) then that's the best sound editor for doing this sort of thing. (with a spectral display so really see the problem) andy mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Hey folks! > Doign some night nature loops and trying to get out some of the sounds > of distant traffic. It seems like doign a high pass filter at about > 3Khz does a pretty good job and looking at the spectrum it's in the > ballpark but is there any research on this? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 14:50:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D537F3BF3A; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1PC0mg0bGSBylt7Rew+edPOoUo2EgbFzNy8k9/qr3Xc=; b=MsUZYxAMT3/2aSSVs662WRx9R+JIJatV+PCtNFjfALJJxeE0f9e+gYhzveYD4ugdfp LLho9oqji6xzi85akz+9OOJSE1bSdZVgRzn++Gji+x0cotTU1memuPGxWyl3fTiB76CJ yr6nm5uQpNZWr5yNJg2EjhhIyl+S5zoTCfiE0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XsMwCIGZxxq+uJwX+S4XQV2odwJy3aCH9WM/jSHt/gFLgIXHeQeOvOhe10ZZ6bdsGv 1GOkcMujvZJTwlaKW/Vn+PBKtd6QX22WkRfYFoX/rTGGKjbdArt6aTzwcUxncJQA/ssT jImjsbtB55eBVzMOvsKQCRN/K8veNboZ8KLfA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:50:10 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908230750y32cfc01ega92d535039c9c6b1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:50:14 +0000 (UTC) What happens if you play a bass solo close to a rift in a three-dimensional space embedded into a space of higher geometrical dimension? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65XDuevj_E The video is an excerpt from yesterday's MoinSound Studio Sessions (follow www.twitter.com/moinlabs for up-to-date show reminders) and shows a passage where some of the functions of the (free) ManyCam software (www.manycam.com) for realtime video processing are applied...thanks to Jeff Duke for making me aware of this software, and also to meeel for doing the processing. Enjoy, Rainer ps: It's Sunday Morning at Elven in like ten minutes - which means Jim Goodin will do a performance: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 14:58:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED6D13BF3F; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 555086.15555.bm@omp206.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251039517; bh=Suh0+F19QLNvYvIFTux/2Jvx1BnWMk5rnAusfdpckgw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6s2zw8XqLEhIO3TYeshFjlhC17z7PYr+gUojLg7tzm8PLk8A/+af+qvpDQSWyQ3zW99Ws7xDewT2t4KkvBK98GEli76dJPms2mEBUv0YmnaZTX6ZnQKGI8tyApVCF/+BneY0wX/RRNjNKKXTV8v4V6sqoviCRpNJgldnnDSp7UE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VIncFSbVq/0tTPUi+gJn36ZATStxvTyMb7WAoKnyKs4OSyQ1nsBloX00woF3OYlYscrCtsBx9odLYN/RI007LbRnHRKKpWjwA7uMfHaAtMic80Wo+MfUfszzs+CWDA6fahTc6XYEDovLMCu9nnFypuaeMjh7jlH/yGpnQy+AJEw=; Message-ID: <443993.10157.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0UDWpxEVM1nquz.x4NxS0DShwAKd_e5Y.ioGecmi1EdeYorZOMeCskdm X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 References: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:58:36 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1327028416-1251039516=:10157" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:58:38 +0000 (UTC) --0-1327028416-1251039516=:10157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim,=0A=0ACan't get to the page, it is timing out......=0A=0AEric=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jim Goodin =0ATo: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Saturday, Augus= t 22, 2009 10:09:17 PM=0ASubject: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uSt= ream=0A=0AJust a reminder that I'll be doing my live webcast Sunday Morning= at 11, tomorrow morning (8/23) at 11am EST on uStream.tv. =A0The show URL = is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 . =A0Please tune in i= f you are near computer and the Internet. =0A=0ATime conversion... 8am PST,= 9am MST, 10am CST, 11am EST (NY), 4pm UK, 5pm western Europe and 12mn Japa= n. =A0For times nearer your geographic locale visit the time calculator at= =A0http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html=0A=0AThanks and I h= ope you'll join me.=0A=0AGood rest of the weekend to you.=0A=0AJim=0A=0A-- = =0AReUse, an introspective textural aural=0Awww.myspace.com/CtReUse=0A=0Amu= sic links...=0Awww.jimgoodinmusic.com=0Awww.chinapaintingmusic.com=0Awww.my= space.com/jimgoodinmusic=0Awww.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic=0Awww.myspace= ..com/jimgoodinviolinelectro=0Awww.myspace.com/jindream=0Awww.youtube.com/ji= mgoodinmusic=0A=0Avideo work/editing...=0Awww.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital=0A= =0Asocial networking...=0Awww.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=0A=0A=0A --0-1327028416-1251039516=:10157 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=0A=0A= =0A=0A --0-1327028416-1251039516=:10157-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 15:00:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAB523BF3E; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b7zYewF85PyFukM1cs3MoRReM50ayCHQwnK+AFFiGww=; b=pjYBPi/i8WQUjVDh3zqQq+2bnfx247oe6lMWLuMS+hni2+h22JBrRuVptb/q2Of+RX Bc7QneZlyyHybSQiEm5/XP1KPUkGiidgXCjiEfi2jNf54I6xHNT7jxesljJUJcJ+M6tU hPjShEDLI8qpEuPsNByWIrdkiqPIFg0aoQpB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LkprKFOnWyFoOXER0RpJmMwA+PLj1w7hkfl6Jxv2LKVXy0GC6FuK6XHtX6+fxDOuii iXkdKWdLS7PZpT2ImNN+oVxH6IGvoAu3mXqFP3uGnwuDXEmXDF1nw7DVLui9iQz1uifF wTVH5z3dxdWOfmUCuoJhx/hhKmTsIz4r4jjPk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908230750y32cfc01ega92d535039c9c6b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908230750y32cfc01ega92d535039c9c6b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:59:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8Yt_KB.A.9VG.wlVkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:00:00 +0000 (UTC) hi rainer, i wonder how many computers were u using yesterday. audio, imagery, net 2009/8/23, Rainer Straschill : > What happens if you play a bass solo close to a rift in a > three-dimensional space embedded into a space of higher geometrical > dimension? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65XDuevj_E > > The video is an excerpt from yesterday's MoinSound Studio Sessions > (follow www.twitter.com/moinlabs for up-to-date show reminders) and > shows a passage where some of the functions of the (free) ManyCam > software (www.manycam.com) for realtime video processing are > applied...thanks to Jeff Duke for making me aware of this software, > and also to meeel for doing the processing. > > Enjoy, > > Rainer > > ps: It's Sunday Morning at Elven in like ten minutes - which means Jim > Goodin will do a performance: > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. > > > --- > http://moinlabs.de > http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs > http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs > http://justin.tv/moinlabs > http://vimeo.com/moinlabs > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 15:02:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4B2C3BF3F; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251039726; bh=v+aVp/mB06LTkTLKfxJO6FRZWMnnhhoEKTV/Q3en9HY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oAJWhqA/cKSbtOY+5JdN2LClgA7KYsK56y9VBE2lzFyC4tY/B/KqNtsHfaK/lpLSW2KsES054/dg/3E4Mjgu528WsgOhZzaxPWD0NpFr5iLB8CP7iz9D/cEXvJcvuVDeiMSp4IvIe09HVhoKk6PD3PQvk5L6wRrNqK8OktW2cYU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KT7SbBtE+C3qifEbsewNA1NNIdPztBgcU0SaUGe5CoUAa84YrtrVHOIpMjNyF2k5ao+H9NsWKY4ygPlmc6199xXrnP8ShHFg7PMENjU7/KsXL7jRfUIM5vn3S/F1ltKGRQa4XR07PXmAccL/MfXKEwsV9rnaz0yg824KKT05Ulw=; Message-ID: <163312.67967.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Y.4dx6gVM1lA5FVMVxrCJ1_881qxxP43bQhDs3NbhzSiWOYvox7t5NNv0oz94xIfW.DurOEUApSVKobIxrCHy0q25JcE.a1MGlmvj4g5NY8VWLT8AyQIQluRhkidt.iyTaGrcdfqQv_PerQ166Y2Wgu.Tw._jCjj03S26_n9dU3vql8wLSQuew7HO_7Pu_O9KFIedbxaZcZXMU.XPFk1Gg2cmc1HdRje1du40Tuh1QtiBr2YZeQuGWwbdnAnlS5IqsyriVqYn4FNlECKDs3LI_C6GIp8CyNbNyJTzoydQ8YO8..eVOTB5zCh9AojPFH9xObGd6F8IXJQA__bvlLkU2EzD_1qEgzLCHK8BVXP9C43EA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.1 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: ECM guitarists: many thanks! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <92578.52502.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1412480512-1251039725=:67967" Resent-Message-ID: <4SshbC.A.WeG.vnVkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:02:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-1412480512-1251039725=:67967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pay no attention to the others. My suggestions were the best! --- On Sat, 8/22/09, scott hansen wrote: From: scott hansen Subject: ECM guitarists: many thanks! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 11:38 PM thanks for some of the ideas on other ecm guitarists. there were a couple i was unfamiliar w/. =A0 i have watched the keith rowe vids, & read a # of interviews, i think his p= rocess is very interesting, he talks a lot about being influenced by painte= rs/visual artists (he was trained as a painter originally)-just very intere= sting... =A0 the funny thing in looking at the main list of guitarists, most of those gu= ys have been around since early 80s making music (frisell, torn, tibbetts, = etc)...i often wonder who are the ones today...or is the answer the folks o= n this list, many of whom i have discs from... oh well. whole new world i guess..... many thanks=A0 again... scott www.myspace.com/scotthansen =0A=0A=0A --0-1412480512-1251039725=:67967 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pay no attention to the others. My suggestion= s were the best!

--- On Sat, 8/22/09, scott hansen <evanpee= wee@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>Subject: ECM guitarists: many thanks!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 11:38 PM

thanks for some of the ideas on other ecm guitarists.
there were a couple i was unfamiliar w/.
 
i have watched the keith rowe vids, & read a # of interviews, i th= ink his process is very interesting, he talks a lot about being influenced = by painters/visual artists (he was trained as a painter originally)-just ve= ry interesting...
 
the funny thing in looking at the main list of guitarists, most of tho= se guys have been around since early 80s making music (frisell, torn, tibbe= tts, etc)...i often wonder who are the ones today...or is the answer the fo= lks on this list, many of whom i have discs from...
oh well. whole new world i guess.....
many thanks  again...
scott
www.myspace.com/scotthansen

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=0A=0A --0-1412480512-1251039725=:67967-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 15:02:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC3D23BF47; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NoYdgXXeyULo4+ym7RUb6v9bPdnaSPn0+kRS4K3lJG0=; b=LUbzDllvf4RG8fAe3WAm4/pJ0uAdF1O8Re34wEcE36ISVC7K5WDHRyRw6yWVeyDPkn EQlxGwrjTMfYlsgmuZrl7B/xxQtsOortQetZaDvexWbtr27Z7ur/7rIH32J2438RLkQU 9p81MGe+Hhf/SwOPcjq97S2XmxxGc7OHkgnX0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TQ1/whWBeATIqUnqHWp3cKPATpn+A92F7EzylDhhIHZT5VAZ1SMdeLXZrg7lMdiuIk M5/m86jrT31PtAjLx14PeKV/lVVTBjCDDSy3jSac8MvlQe+LLI6maLXMC4+3IPswQlSi hWtslfQ2miHYqaBuD7CzJPSzYexUZbjJPR7Dk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <443993.10157.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> <443993.10157.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:02:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:02:24 +0000 (UTC) yes. i can't neither ... 2009/8/23, E Gross : > Jim, > > Can't get to the page, it is timing out...... > > Eric > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jim Goodin > To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:09:17 PM > Subject: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream > > Just a reminder that I'll be doing my live webcast Sunday Morning at 11, > tomorrow morning (8/23) at 11am EST on uStream.tv. =A0The show URL is > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 . =A0Please tune in if= you > are near computer and the Internet. > > Time conversion... 8am PST, 9am MST, 10am CST, 11am EST (NY), 4pm UK, 5pm > western Europe and 12mn Japan. =A0For times nearer your geographic locale > visit the time calculator > at=A0http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html > > Thanks and I hope you'll join me. > > Good rest of the weekend to you. > > Jim > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace..com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 15:10:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F9783BF4C; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AekUbKGlPwmWKhCQ8RuZjIAgl+q88iiYpGo9DgPF8NY=; b=o2ZrB5LvfqRQgmmTn6H0ZCt0Y4j4K+3KG8Wh9j5d/HJ67eTvmWBvcA2+7SW6PYL6fq FDvl6jmTJoxZadR9hDb/vMqflg6QpSEiy4VpOApXaYHyko+5ae29stCAIt3GozIKj3ZE Y1+A2qtm/H8dK+eHfmm7Uc2ESZboC3kiczJMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=c+cszVZEyDeNvARLRFVOnPOJJ/FLoFtfiWxwEoFXaG1Is1/9/DcLk9ov149VWJpMeZ rTtnaRKVmXYJJK6tvBeKg5TAg5vDh5om7U6i7SUDBRS7o/+w3A4IEyPQnuccqyomATtK 1yb7vyH+MJshTrzjX88DbNlLCvSsJ9GI/5ynk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:10:34 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908230810r594956f3pc13c3cb0706dbf4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Raul asked: > i wonder how many computers were u using yesterday. > audio, imagery, net Two. One for making music (it's hidden on viewer's left on top of that portable rack with the black lining), the other one for video processing and audio/video streaming. ManyCam is basically taking any available video cameras as inputs (but you could also use video files or your desktop as a sources) and makes the processed output available as another video source, which in turn is used by FME (Flash Media Encoder). The audio is coming in (via SPDIF) through a RME HammerfallDSP and this is used by FME as the audio source. Works without problems. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 15:17:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57D143BF5F; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zgdZ8JvLzDTtetWN20dOeaqhK8ysvXZX5Z4gi9nbF9U=; b=mJfNZUqz8yHZbc4ZL6/urYgu686zF4Ff88DFS71spvKgXJRheyV5H/KgVd3rFnJ1Hy FHjH8y3u61WogoIX/7lmVaxg0C82hsk/BrSJjn23byUnuFmXjZmIYrLrGC0QOWEvH/DM LX1kce36V7nvRFuH8hSvK66PoWr7FWSaNhe+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ApAluxqItqrcj7T6UwQJPrGykyeky9DYTnfdwFPmK+tKV4jI2VShkMqybsbyPLOFEr TQ2p8OqthBbh+ge7DY9isOeNVV8yjCltueR1ZwdlM/3LyMrfNzcswrz+3dA4Ank5P+VZ oM8tsS8R+WQfY5UW7tYAR6QsGo0jneeSqhe4A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:17:17 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908230817w325b5a7ej75334bf5add390fa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:17:18 +0000 (UTC) > Frisell also recorded with Garbarek; the album was "Wayfarer." Frisell had been the main ECM guitar sideman for some time in the late seventies/early eighties (not sure about the exact date), which includes work with looping cats Eberhard Weber and Arild Andersen. He has also been on another Garbarek album on ECM named "Paths, Prints" (which I do quite like). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 16:09:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51F243BF30; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1251043798; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=srXUJZ8cCb4tfv8tHJE+gEeLios=; b=UemMOU4lJTvPv9HDDZqPcgYTPR1FiA5nBBA3kul6xMCATjdJNFjwty1BIMmFIUfJ t05+G14jbLZv9FSep4jQ3EkoMPbipGZb0kJdfAGYoA45fpFcx3QYDCNIqx0YbdRp; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aa1_zq28bsoA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=YvRyCrhtnf0K9EDql-8A:9 a=3oJDbtB9-MqSztcQ9PcA:7 a=psa5A-aUOqbJc36Gmicg6ku-FaoA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002801ca240c$71dc7040$6d832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0908230810r594956f3pc13c3cb0706dbf4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:11:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <2_5muD.A.0xB.XnWkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, and your able to do chat on the same machine that is using manycam and broadcasting with the FME? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) > Raul asked: >> i wonder how many computers were u using yesterday. >> audio, imagery, net > > Two. One for making music (it's hidden on viewer's left on top of that > portable rack with the black lining), the other one for video > processing and audio/video streaming. > ManyCam is basically taking any available video cameras as inputs (but > you could also use video files or your desktop as a sources) and makes > the processed output available as another video source, which in turn > is used by FME (Flash Media Encoder). The audio is coming in (via > SPDIF) through a RME HammerfallDSP and this is used by FME as the > audio source. Works without problems. > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 16:22:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CA5E3BF35; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fLn0dpiUtYQYYp9BvFNvUFmL1E2RFc/V/gZg61qE2oY=; b=XUXHc81oNX5OBZg4LCDtexGX8oHcMV1BAzcSrBTu3pbilovYao1uD2uP/9T4GkQ4zJ PEYGbus8LnpjKkhDi+BHzpSHAYPGJnVVvbrXNWpLHcRxoopzroTk1rT75rncFqkNEExV 0/qGAh9FYBL/vpug2s9s1WtMmhrjTxg1ck1g8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=H4N2A7KhT1gDfye2yE5B9KK+V2XQaXKjAr1M5Xtfoje+D9tjy1VfHjTtPnzf2w1pwu FZjeDeyl+X2p/5/Nc4cGDLG8NKIM7yti6IuuUnVW67lRYcTZV6BufQ5wIgcffEXhDoLr sUGIHDPKb7pS1K9wRTSQt7zDruI0YAaAOnFrw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:22:38 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908230922obc85d16vb69638e1dbeda12f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Jeff asked: > Rainer, and your able to do chat on the same machine that is using manycam and broadcasting with the FME? Don't know. The last setups I used were manycam and FME on one machine and ustream/justin client on another machine or FME and ustream/justin client on the same. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 16:32:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C54113BF05; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1251045132; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=9cfWoQanl6U3nCwKChK+QNMqOvc=; b=Fm/41uUNS3Aw6ifk/eHSRLg16D1xEJ6xYVNOfOM1QUmfNFd1rysA6eOhqURNAzNH AN1GYCQsTJT4p07lIC6rqhTNRIMLVEySj7/FqGrNLdxMmoHmyC5R5cCVVaVJ+Xqk; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aa1_zq28bsoA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=0ElzqIFOAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=Cp0_AXTNAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=fkieF908AAAA:8 a=T_YjTNR-CSO2qyqlPaYA:9 a=y3k2Jap6omwKhaHA6Da9bCd-TGgA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01ca240f$42b79f80$6d832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0908230750y32cfc01ega92d535039c9c6b1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:32:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Great show Rainer and kudos to meeeII for the vid manipulations. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) > What happens if you play a bass solo close to a rift in a > three-dimensional space embedded into a space of higher geometrical > dimension? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65XDuevj_E > > The video is an excerpt from yesterday's MoinSound Studio Sessions > (follow www.twitter.com/moinlabs for up-to-date show reminders) and > shows a passage where some of the functions of the (free) ManyCam > software (www.manycam.com) for realtime video processing are > applied...thanks to Jeff Duke for making me aware of this software, > and also to meeel for doing the processing. > > Enjoy, > > Rainer > > ps: It's Sunday Morning at Elven in like ten minutes - which means Jim > Goodin will do a performance: > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. > > > --- > http://moinlabs.de > http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs > http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs > http://justin.tv/moinlabs > http://vimeo.com/moinlabs > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 16:44:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF23E3BF2F; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1251045860; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=zOkT9e0+7GiBwqVtDYfZ2aVL5rI=; b=ezvwDScd6k7fPSbqQF+29SN+HHa2bHVrb+9RRMQsjI5lw+jBJGeY/vmn9m+UIm/o ncZMPi8QVaSmnkGgGTA5QRJRgsHDKLtcHGwsNOhAjD364chIGwHjlSUmwmdcESq+; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aa1_zq28bsoA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=n31176wSm7Rvqgln_0AA:9 a=aQgBP821kAQTjwJDQ4JKNcfVCssA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=DC2sVBuTHXtv0Fqw:21 a=2aHdoxh8Sv8LBZil:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001301ca2410$f3744340$6d832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0908230922obc85d16vb69638e1dbeda12f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:44:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <10z5_B.A.zdD.kHXkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:44:20 +0000 (UTC) I was wondering because meeeII was able to chat while operating the manycam and I assume the FME was on the same machine. You had answered two machines, 1 for your audio processing/looping setup and one for manycam, FME and I guess chat unless she had a seperate one for that. I have to use a seperate computer for the "monitor" and chat. FME broadcasting with Manycam uses about 60-70% of my cpu. When I add a browser window it jumps to 90+ with problems. I of course don't use a computer for audio processing/looping. To do it like you I would have to have 3 computers. best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) > Jeff asked: >> Rainer, and your able to do chat on the same machine that is using >> manycam and broadcasting with the FME? > > Don't know. The last setups I used were manycam and FME on one machine > and ustream/justin client on another machine or FME and ustream/justin > client on the same. > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 16:46:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E1713BF39; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=N+0+n8ExasBvLA40K4/1/VluAi0NTlaG3NDG7RtTCWM=; b=or9vkHSyL/7n6RdC1uUTpE4b4vZohORRlTGkoSx1+nYpUK1qWWSwxQkwONKgD6vNwf 4q11WhGUYC0/XOm2oNA7zX5jx8/oiQJom9RxnfkYeteC+W/PTjEUYLaHMgsXYyI0FVmo T11fd2gd2JJhN48Gp6QdvwAkTJ50ns/7LGCFg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MFEXruC1I6VonRdQG2b7lljsUM1z0SShKGxiiGcytfuFGCUwYJULaPd16LMpSgESYP qVX68Sgf3beAHB5jy/s0AYgl1bYgaRDMOG2r2OPMXooa/SnPQiD0rCyrChb2HCRDtSsJ pLkkq6Yx30V6NL+azyoBOaYVV/ohI+YOpcmxs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:46:08 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908230946n5c2aec84l658c2a378978f06c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174736ac902fb70471d1d6a4 Resent-Message-ID: <1tR4TD.A.hkD.TJXkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:46:11 +0000 (UTC) --0015174736ac902fb70471d1d6a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks so much to everyone from the community and beyond who joined me this morning, I greatly appreciate the turnout. I'm sorry about my video glitch off the top I was trying to use an ext cam today which is dicey on the Mac with built-in iSight. It worked in my tests and looked good just before show time (of course). When I went live though chat wouldn't come up and it seemed I wasn't getting out so I bagged it and switched over to iSight and maybe that's what I should always do in the future (ain't broke don't...). Though I dabbled with Mobius in recording last year today was my first experience with it 'live' and I must say I dig it, some real flexibility that I've just scratched the surface on and yes as pointed out, gotta get a foot controller. I needed it on the EHX as well but I tend to try to get by on a shoelace at times so dealt with hands but I think it's in order for this software. I need some input on a foot controller for this. It comes in over USB to Mobius? Is the mapping challenging re assignment to pedals? Once again thanks so much for turning out this morning for Sunday Morning at 11. Best and happy Sunday. Jim 2009/8/22 Jim Goodin > Just a reminder that I'll be doing my live webcast *Sunday Morning at 11*, > tomorrow morning (8/23) at 11am EST on uStream.tv. The show URL is > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 . Please tune in if > you are near computer and the Internet. > > --0015174736ac902fb70471d1d6a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks so much to everyone from the community and beyond who joined me this= morning, I greatly appreciate the turnout. =A0I'm sorry about my video= glitch off the top I was trying to use an ext cam today which is dicey on = the Mac with built-in iSight. =A0It worked in my tests and looked good just= before show time (of course). =A0When I went live though chat wouldn't= come up and it seemed I wasn't getting out so I bagged it and switched= over to iSight and maybe that's what I should always do in the future = (ain't broke don't...).

Though I dabbled with Mobius in recording last year today wa= s my first experience with it 'live' and I must say I dig it, some = real flexibility that I've just scratched the surface on and yes as poi= nted out, gotta get a foot controller. =A0I needed it on the EHX as well bu= t I tend to try to get by on a shoelace at times so dealt with hands but I = think it's in order for this software. =A0I need some input on a foot c= ontroller for this. =A0It comes in over USB to Mobius? =A0Is the mapping ch= allenging re assignment to pedals?

Once again thanks so much for turning out this morning = for Sunday Morning at 11.

Best and happy Sunday.


Jim



2009/8/22 Jim Goodin <<= a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=
Just a reminder that I'll be doing my live webcast Sunday Morning at= 11, tomorrow morning (8/23) at 11am EST on uStream.tv. =A0The show URL= is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 . =A0Ple= ase tune in if you are near computer and the Internet.


--0015174736ac902fb70471d1d6a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 16:52:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 268F63BF3A; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A9173CE.8010108@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:52:30 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for August 22, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:52:42 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090822.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #156 August 22, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Bas Broekhuis] Intro Sequences No. 7 VA [TK] Moonshine Sequences No. 7 VA [Robert Excerpt from German Sequences No. 7 Schroeder] Radio Broadcast Markus Reuter and Dervish Dervish (DiN) Ian Boddy Frank Van Bogaert Dead Planet Air Machine (ACE) and Erik Wollo Soriah and Atlan Atlan (Projekt) Ashkelon Sain Ricochet Gathering Clear Sky Wavelength Romania 2008 (Ricochet Dream) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Chinapainting Lifting the Cereus (none) Millstone Open Canvas Surya Travel By Sound (HRR) Paul Lawler and Full Circle Planting the Seed (Gemini Sun) Mark Holland Paul Lawler and Krakatoa Wonders (Rainstorm) Paul Speer Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== The Aurora Project Shadow Border Shadow Border (none) VA [Pax Romana] Nobody Never Knows Tuonen Tryar II (Musea) Nothing VA [Kate] Last Quarters Tuonen Tryar II (Musea) Spock's Beard On A Perfect Day Spock's Beard (InsideOut) Ozric Tentacles Magick Valley * The Yumyum Tree (Snapper) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4:00/ ITZ-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 16:53:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2D503BF39; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=svzsjIr2034jGh1uL5YFD/NvKy7uZ+NP99Y0idjgsgo=; b=XiUei9IfTbOUpXwHr94SW+olqVoAF67gH/Fw97K9Zq6mWc2GNcf5YYfxyTC+QLaM+X 2tLbZY15Hr+tRpDfnip5eQejQ9N56zbwHZ//6rp+WxfYekP4taBz7/cudR2d0Vhh8A9A CNysjQtsfgF4ao7IqA9yIZpKYmfARx8Hpyt+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=sWxRQeJwBMR6L7NkwgfD4Pw5CFI8OaDg2YQE0sY0SNOVdcFCe8S6j3GlKckujRo6Fz K79hLu3RckhALtghsk9I0UAgQGvfnGGlTjfeL9o1GFUIy1qGdOmJtrwLc8fLeYzj9KVy 9Jra3Ll4Wkq2wDWrLyiTcYgoLkt3nlFowgnf4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:53:39 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908230953oeda057au37b1e2464db32369@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:53:41 +0000 (UTC) As I said, I had in the past both FME and a justin.tv (or ustream) monitor/chat window on the same machine, and yesterday, it was FME and Manycam on the same machine, but the monitor/chat was running on another netbook. >From my experience with CPU loading, I would assume it would also work with all three on one machine, but then again, it's a custom-configured system with a Yorkfield CPU, fast memory etc. pp. And of course, audio (as in "musicmaking") is running on a different machine altogether. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 17:10:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D4473BF2F; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yNrF8fHnfbHkie4iCVMuyUZ5ZRU451C5XE+87gC+DAM=; b=wLFbAsOvKb2356V0S5oaqpQtct3j9OLOyNtaoyrQQTl0kybtkrh2qj3N4LUMOeiRyT qncWyQ++pi/bj5DWDYXkf+Tf/yGF7fGo4CDqG9J6GW0yCcLmflvv0ovnql4k+5Gx1Xeq f7TQTXCkoaDQ4VY7Xgpot1YQ6QE4dwIHXw0Jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZvPaZYqwxocMHYDqEBsgemRJeWP2cUlgn221v9bB8DerCa5qc3wxeRxkGAXEn5bdTv Fa2veZJeTO3XL0f3pAa+veNizXNH26khod5gTLLmVHw5Zobsib7vPYs3XZtc4wpM4Dev DPKIdDV6gDJ44ENhEakGgrLLHI4xIRzVEY46w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:10:28 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908231010u3902694x61318df29788ed28@mail.gmail.com> Subject: MIDI foot controllers (was Re: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Jim, first of all, Mobius is really flexible with regard to using MIDI controllers and also features an auto-learn option, so you can basically use any combination of different MIDI controllers and control via keyboard and map virtually anything to anything. Most importantly, the usual button presses (triggering functions or scripts) can be program change, CC or note messages, so you really can make it work with any kind of MIDI (foot) controller, ranging from the old and cheap Boss FC-50 over the well-known Behringer FCB1010 to some MIDI organ bass pedals. Among the devices currently on the market for foot controllers, there seem to be three contenders (in decreasing order of use and increasing order of price - all price references in Euro). Behringer FCB1010 for around =80140, Roland FC-100 for around =80320 and Gordius for around =80500. Of those, only the Gordius connects via USB, all the others need MIDI. The biggest disadvantage of the Behringer is its large footprint, which may be a no-go for airplane travel with a small setup (and budget). Also, some people have reported that it's not exactly that sturdy if you confront it with the hazzles of (airplane-based) road travel and general professional use. I myself have two of them, and both are still working fine (despite some intercontinental touring), and price-wise, you can go through more than three Behringers before it breaks even with a Gordius. As I said, you may also try to get a used Boss FC50, which is much smaller (and you can leave the external expression pedals at home if you don't need them) or something similar. There is an editor software for the FCB1010 btw (I think it's by the same guy that also makes the Gordius controller) which allows for easy setup of this thing. However, it will also work with Mobius more or less out of the box. I believe the biggest challenge is how to assign the different Mobius functions to the footswitches and pedals. I use the two pedals for track volume and secondary feedback respectively, and have the Mobius commands spread over three banks of ten. I recently also decided to assign a preset of my BCR2000 faderbox to Mobius (I'm using that faderbox anyway to control the other parameters in Ableton Live) and with that I have all track volumes, pan and primary feedback parameters and buttons for select and mute track under my fingers. Btw, there's also the possibility to use only a small amount of footswitches and map them in a context-sensitive way using scripts. Summary: best you first decide how you actually want your user interface to work. Then look for controllers. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 17:35:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CF3F3BF30; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LrBRnsX2U9pTM9xlikRqikklgubUin9zE0YzUhN9VN8=; b=tb3TUi05BIneA2P7a1OeUIyWvjfnov+3XmLg+s/8Ahk50RNjgpK2C3IksM3TwvlVct 6/npEyKp90eu+Q2GO++CRQO8lEx9xDWeCnT1ZLjdzJHZGZHQtPVF5aU44bmUrh8+jD+O Ju6CN2CQQutwKZi9HCuAVFI2Ue454clIaiKDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FShYuYrOB+qG4RpbVCrEkzK+mVoxKVoZKltZuHQQGnPu/lZsL1kvb59nQMmioTIZku 3BG0d+goDZ40P9u6zbeLxklESG+el3SpgegAES9Dd8AS5EP0qtLKURw4zDKf214dd/Zl Brfu9qnntocv6xXJZrY+X97TJEyWH3qRcrpPU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908231010u3902694x61318df29788ed28@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908231010u3902694x61318df29788ed28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:35:38 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908231035v2618c3b5n38bfff0de05fa350@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers (was Re: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174766d69658580471d287ba Resent-Message-ID: <7fygT.A.fWG.s3XkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:35:40 +0000 (UTC) --0015174766d69658580471d287ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer thanks so much for such detailed response on this as I need it. For my budget then it will be midi. I have an old Charvel/Jackson guitar to midi controller pedal but I suspect it's much too dated today. I'll explor= e the Boss unless it's close to the Behringer pricing. Mobius went well today though it did that buffer thing where after 2 loop sequences it was no longer seeing input from my USB device (Digitech rp150) and it may be the later inconsistencies. I did close it and open and it wa= s alive again re audio input. It's good to be exploring it again, it's an amazing thing Jeff has put out there. Thanks again and I'll ponder your words a bit. Jim On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Jim, > > first of all, Mobius is really flexible with regard to using MIDI > controllers and also features an auto-learn option, so you can > basically use any combination of different MIDI controllers and > control via keyboard and map virtually anything to anything. Most > importantly, the usual button presses (triggering functions or > scripts) can be program change, CC or note messages, so you really can > make it work with any kind of MIDI (foot) controller, ranging from the > old and cheap Boss FC-50 over the well-known Behringer FCB1010 to some > MIDI organ bass pedals. > > Among the devices currently on the market for foot controllers, there > seem to be three contenders (in decreasing order of use and increasing > order of price - all price references in Euro). Behringer FCB1010 for > around =80140, Roland FC-100 for around =80320 and Gordius for around > =80500. > Of those, only the Gordius connects via USB, all the others need MIDI. > > The biggest disadvantage of the Behringer is its large footprint, > which may be a no-go for airplane travel with a small setup (and > budget). Also, some people have reported that it's not exactly that > sturdy if you confront it with the hazzles of (airplane-based) road > travel and general professional use. I myself have two of them, and > both are still working fine (despite some intercontinental touring), > and price-wise, you can go through more than three Behringers before > it breaks even with a Gordius. > > As I said, you may also try to get a used Boss FC50, which is much > smaller (and you can leave the external expression pedals at home if > you don't need them) or something similar. > > There is an editor software for the FCB1010 btw (I think it's by the > same guy that also makes the Gordius controller) which allows for easy > setup of this thing. However, it will also work with Mobius more or > less out of the box. > > I believe the biggest challenge is how to assign the different Mobius > functions to the footswitches and pedals. I use the two pedals for > track volume and secondary feedback respectively, and have the Mobius > commands spread over three banks of ten. I recently also decided to > assign a preset of my BCR2000 faderbox to Mobius (I'm using that > faderbox anyway to control the other parameters in Ableton Live) and > with that I have all track volumes, pan and primary feedback > parameters and buttons for select and mute track under my fingers. > > Btw, there's also the possibility to use only a small amount of > footswitches and map them in a context-sensitive way using scripts. > > Summary: best you first decide how you actually want your user > interface to work. Then look for controllers. > > Rainer > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174766d69658580471d287ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer thanks so much for such detailed response on this as I need it. =A0F= or my budget then it will be midi. =A0I have an old Charvel/Jackson guitar = to midi controller pedal but I suspect it's much too dated today. =A0I&= #39;ll explore the Boss unless it's close to the Behringer pricing.
Mobius went well today though it did that buffer thing where= after 2 loop sequences it was no longer seeing input from my USB device (D= igitech rp150) and it may be the later inconsistencies. =A0I did close it a= nd open and it was alive again re audio input.

It's good to be exploring it again, it's an ama= zing thing Jeff has put out there.

Thanks again an= d I'll ponder your words a bit.

Jim

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Rainer Stra= schill <mo= insound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Jim,

first of all, Mobius is really flexible with regard to using MIDI
controllers and also features an auto-learn option, so you can
basically use any combination of different MIDI controllers and
control via keyboard and map virtually anything to anything. Most
importantly, the usual button presses (triggering functions or
scripts) can be program change, CC or note messages, so you really can
make it work with any kind of MIDI (foot) controller, ranging from the
old and cheap Boss FC-50 over the well-known Behringer FCB1010 to some
MIDI organ bass pedals.

Among the devices currently on the market for foot controllers, there
seem to be three contenders (in decreasing order of use and increasing
order of price - all price references in Euro). Behringer FCB1010 for
around =80140, Roland FC-100 for around =80320 and Gordius for around
=80500.
Of those, only the Gordius connects via USB, all the others need MIDI.

The biggest disadvantage of the Behringer is its large footprint,
which may be a no-go for airplane travel with a small setup (and
budget). Also, some people have reported that it's not exactly that
sturdy if you confront it with the hazzles of (airplane-based) road
travel and general professional use. I myself have two of them, and
both are still working fine (despite some intercontinental touring),
and price-wise, you can go through more than three Behringers before
it breaks even with a Gordius.

As I said, you may also try to get a used Boss FC50, which is much
smaller (and you can leave the external expression pedals at home if
you don't need them) or something similar.

There is an editor software for the FCB1010 btw (I think it's by the same guy that also makes the Gordius controller) which allows for easy
setup of this thing. However, it will also work with Mobius more or
less out of the box.

I believe the biggest challenge is how to assign the different Mobius
functions to the footswitches and pedals. I use the two pedals for
track volume and secondary feedback respectively, and have the Mobius
commands spread over three banks of ten. I recently also decided to
assign a preset of my BCR2000 faderbox to Mobius (I'm using that
faderbox anyway to control the other parameters in Ableton Live) and
with that I have all track volumes, pan and primary feedback
parameters and buttons for select and mute track under my fingers.

Btw, there's also the possibility to use only a small amount of
footswitches and map them in a context-sensitive way using scripts.

Summary: best you first decide how you actually want your user
interface to work. Then look for controllers.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer




--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural
www.my= space.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--0015174766d69658580471d287ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 19:18:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A1F73BF1E; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=G5eHo3CI8uM0tS0/Ze0u5lyGt6zDHlt13uOHYZ9mQhM=; b=rB3OHA9g0lI0IcTc++xSXnmLZPMntVG5YumOHClaXQJKGKQWYJ9NGE7NUcn0TN9mbO dLvIXjYqCiQrhhKgg10rM3cfiNl4W9cki23oDJ3Kkdm0yRLiF/02F5zp6fXICaapRdR5 8gg5GEg0Ph/zFjRStCdmKf9ColTl4lVURen3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MLPN/ROgvxplh49EY/aww9wdg86LdwlUV3crlD5KYbf2cEsK7TkmJ7AasEPmwGncDK tj20YFw1MMMAT1XM5LkBkCmJDpDiILCK0Yzg9i2q3uguI/h5/ax1zf7F9xQ3nin4wR7B RJNYuHpN3voejo2KBYt2ornMHEIaL61fHEsKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908231010u3902694x61318df29788ed28@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908231010u3902694x61318df29788ed28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:18:41 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908231218l29f324fnc0221663bc81a622@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers (was Re: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Nice summary Jim, I just want to add the IK Multimedia Stealth Pedal to the list. I won't repeat my previous post, but a quick note that the IK Multimedia Stealth pedal is a great alternative to the Behringer FCB1010 if you want USB connectivity and a much smaller foot print. The downside is that you are limited to 2 foot switches. It's more expensive than the Behringer, but cheaper than the Roland or Gordius. http://simart.googlepages.com/StealthPedal.html On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > > The biggest disadvantage of the Behringer is its large footprint, > which may be a no-go for airplane travel with a small setup (and > budget). -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 19:33:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 325143BEE6; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dDrBrC5mr3tOa2aSXX4aymM2QEsynK14hwCE50lz81U=; b=L0v7CTVTx6kWQSSU4jN3Q+yp3rmMpumdf0ekSiARb8kaZ5A6l8o4QO750AD1Zdoe9v Qh4P4B2hHt/4eSceQICnmfOrup5RExAumv5YoizITLuIZgsVe7sXmjIAIw87kW9JvbJ8 lsP2k/oH3eeXExCmxEPapog4hZ90eLG0mLcBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Pr155zl5zQkvWsQGICu0nvb/otf5z6lAuyy3UUwWZiIUKsKTjfXdw2toxE0QmTbgui 9ovEburV/XwFjTHA9+Oz4fOZiR8SuF8a+PutF+RjLzwQEVb3EjPIUZHnLFKdHIHVNtaW yiefEfWyzmF0mZrxNy5p2PRHEFB/t7aglTsbs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0908231218l29f324fnc0221663bc81a622@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908231010u3902694x61318df29788ed28@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0908231218l29f324fnc0221663bc81a622@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:33:45 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908231233y6b3e875fm4810a8e2bb5b1473@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers (was Re: GigReminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174734340136da0471d42e78 Resent-Message-ID: <-j8LbD.A.1ME.bmZkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:33:47 +0000 (UTC) --0015174734340136da0471d42e78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Art that's a neat looking setup. I'll have to do this in chunks and the most immediate need is merely the relay switching (meaning start, record, new loop, etc). I travel for music only about twice a year though an instrument always goes with me on family trips as well so it's more in a sense. Of the last year as my interest in the oud has grown I take it and it's no picknick with the airlines particularly this last June to Cleveland though somehow I got in the cabin. Hence I've been thinking of replacing it first with this electric onewhich would kill two birds with one stone, meaning it would cover both oud and fretless guitar for me I think. Point on this is portability for a foot controller is a plus and dollars on it need to be less for now. All in time and in the meantime I'll hopefully get faster with my hands. I have triggered the EHX 2880 with my toe in a pinch but probably a big challenge on the keyboard (grins). Thanks guys. J On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Nice summary Jim, I just want to add the IK Multimedia Stealth Pedal > --0015174734340136da0471d42e78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Art that's a neat looking setup. =A0I'll have to do this in chunks = and the most immediate need is merely the relay switching (meaning start, r= ecord, new loop, etc).

I travel for music only about twice a ye= ar though an instrument always goes with me on family trips as well so it&#= 39;s more in a sense. =A0Of the last year as my interest in the oud has gro= wn I take it and it's no picknick with the airlines particularly this l= ast June to Cleveland though somehow I got in the cabin. =A0Hence I've = been thinking of replacing it first with this electric = one which would kill two birds with one stone, meaning it would cover b= oth oud and fretless guitar for me I think. =A0Point on this is portability= for a foot controller is a plus and dollars on it need to be less for now.=

All in time and in the meantime I'll hopefully get = faster with my hands. =A0I have triggered the EHX 2880 with my toe in a pin= ch but probably a big challenge on the keyboard (grins).

Thanks guys.

J
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Nice summary Jim, I just want to add the IK Multimedia Stealth Pedal
--0015174734340136da0471d42e78-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 19:47:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 360633BF26; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:47:09 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251056427; bh=9In/u9lyyeiIIqSvn3DPO8OsfmBXzqsRVgFu86HCiNA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aBMPqYHFBZyqqAwdksoLI9WW4I2NQftz1oAE8h+4Fyp1T1ovdyReJ0PAjiA6hG7qBzcpETkgxssVNiLGN5iecxUcPT/5/CoFts7mD5M5TkZbL7dwWW+n0fmKPwZmWqYXc0MBx3ARdiXy/ymI5/OXMthJXv3Dj5eELaMICWQxhKQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O/oTNdVQmSxqw2GeD79YNlbux5gnGTYrZ28b7tPnuUjfq4MZFp866lect34RKVvn+E4VeNuX4waAJZBzmZxTARhShVnUYAUuGWvhqz0qc5dGytgHerc04mOKSdoB/aTBS/gPZD3IIN7E+IBDgPDow79c48lJFcNVkNeU0uYIRW0=; Message-ID: <274872.52695.qm@web110405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kyrAQkkVM1kek53bsGYIXMwrmIsy3SeKk2ap3SpirPLQqBV6yyahfThBwUFWqKY5U2hNl4_QUECJ6JGICPaTDwHvQ6srtG.zW5AopC7rTqzQBGlRdrg7ddmLIasd3_QFf2pXINhhJPshnuxV8GPnbIovhHrblQTOw289dwa4phe3Whf_jnPo4iPfZ0RWFC8Yk_HguKp.VlDvMxLLRzmM0mwSpLzvYoA.YR8La44pVOYDgp213yiZp8eetzxAMDHffhZg5GQ3c8J0iGAwYVZCtJWZZsZOJzDW6DA_GUiury_mmyD_UtHlXfWR6vCKV1DZoCuHetPEK7dypnVWKdIbhF9N.SVPfw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.1 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:40:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Fata Subject: EDP VG99 FC300 Problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1581631281-1251056426=:52695" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:47:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-1581631281-1251056426=:52695 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am controlling my VG99 and EDP with the FC300. I was using the EFC7. MIDI out of VG99 into MIDI in of EDP RRC out of FC300 into VG99 99 MIDI routing page has the RRC2 going to MIDI out. Setting CC #s was no problem. While in Control Change mode I record sound into the EDP, I return to Sysex mode and change patches on the 99 via the 300, an audible thump is heard in the recorded info in the EDP. This also happens when moving the built in expression pedals and the one external expression pedal that I have set as a dedicated volume pedal. Although the sound is longer when rocking the pedals compared to just quickly stepping on a switch. Also when using the built in and external expression pedals, the EDP display gets slightly dim when rocking the pedal back and forth. When in Control Change mode and recording more stuff into the EDP overdub, multiply, etc all sounds get recorded fine. It's just when switching back to Sysex mode via any of the Mode selection choices on the 300 and stepping on the switches, moving the pedals on the 300 that an audible thump is heard. This thump sound doesn't seem to happen when in Standard mode. But when I change to any different 300 mode the sound occurs. I'd prefer to use Sysex mode as it is great with the 99. Has anyone experienced something similar? An example... http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=985421&content=music The pedal movement is at about 8- 11 and 15-17 seconds and the single pedal switches are at 25-27 but best heard at about 33 seconds near the end. The single pedal noise didn't record as loud as the rocking of the expression pedals. Thanks for any info, Fred --0-1581631281-1251056426=:52695 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I am controlling my VG99 and EDP with the FC300.

I was using the EFC7.


MIDI out of VG99 into MIDI in of EDP

RRC out of FC300 into VG99

99 MIDI routing page has the RRC2 going to MIDI out.


Setting CC #s was no problem.


While in Control Change mode I record sound into the EDP,

I return to Sysex mode and change patches on the 99 via the 300,

an audible thump is heard in the recorded info in the EDP.

This also happens when moving the built in expression pedals

and the one external expression pedal that I have set as a dedicated volume pedal.

Although the sound is longer when rocking the pedals compared to just quickly stepping on a switch.


Also when using the built in and external expression pedals, the EDP display

gets slightly dim when rocking the pedal back and forth.


When in Control Change mode and recording more stuff into the EDP

overdub, multiply, etc all sounds get recorded fine.


It's just when switching back to Sysex mode via any of the Mode selection choices on the 300

and stepping on the switches, moving the pedals on the 300 that an audible thump is heard.


This thump sound doesn't seem to happen when in Standard mode.

But when I change to any different 300 mode the sound occurs.


I'd prefer to use Sysex mode as it is great with the 99.


Has anyone experienced something similar?


An example...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=985421&content=music


The pedal movement is at about 8- 11 and 15-17 seconds and the single pedal switches are

at 25-27 but best heard at about 33 seconds near the end.

The single pedal noise didn't record as loud as the rocking of the expression pedals.



Thanks for any info,

Fred


--0-1581631281-1251056426=:52695-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 19:48:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD3EA3BF26; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZnCTKPrvIQm5vVAjj4hw0cPih+oya31HTHaxsecT3FQ=; b=PeqRHSXpDpcXEgwYzYGb7izOcS1oihI8iyfk4Eu2T9kpJ4rqqdBSzfOv7T2cJUTfUh CbRblEcEYIfmuuaObyV4pCoS+JmzkvlzcaZZ1hzElri8xS3PjtXz91dBBzRZhxoktLLu fN4maSmx8dWrI8LVDu/es+GvO7utpzhl0Ezr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=N+iB6NNtLJcvsE6LHu1UK8VLJs4GB1NLbEa8m6npAEBn2Xg5o7kzYMYNtyLf9BWULd MbIdD4/OhADbzMJxZPYkObdYcm1XWO9nwGVPy9+4N+RjN5lGdOHAorlAy5iBSEK6AmnC BrWpQa8/jvOpNkqfYCqrfQzv1sfvbEyA80PoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:48:31 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908231248h7c114529kbd3a0115f990c693@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-Fp3aD.A.H_E.S0ZkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Jim, if cheap and small are the main requirements, why not look at something like this: http://gamingmouse.com/weapon.php?pid=31 This gives you four buttons for $59 via USB, and those buttons can be mapped to keyboard commands (which in turn can trigger Mobius stuff). So you could use that for the "realtime critical" functions and switch between different mappings using scripts and keys on your keyboard (or buttons on the floor thing), like this: Setup 1 Record/Overdub, Mulitply, Mute, switch to setup 2 Setup 2 Rate Shift Advance (which with the proper rate shift sequence will work as halfspeed), Reverse, Next Loop, switch to setup 1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 19:59:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7E6E3BF30; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y22wqmRrd+xsaWrSqfv/CTTjiJ5j6ACyrH//2oM5z+s=; b=gB+yUUj5txqNUKAwnVEle2dH2oRpVZVgz05HDi10FHu7nWUXy7y28FPD791NEh4xhc Wg2WonuV5/4aoINWZrgjwfrfX6UhyBx8xPMk00zqcC7cSxHAjP6YcK1t+KzBwtVJIJRi f4deU+iLkTz71TBeWmJcb0sRbGRK9xi0EbLGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BPnqEU2cSAPY1OzVuCJXfv4JN6aPdH1JflSBedklydYj0/nTX+ybzJau4tGMjM9Vi5 3GKQHE/F3Df/RjE27i42YTMvQcoIRL7p69DmlxzUAhpYe260EUFVIzQyLkaa6klsssYe nfH2wj+XU4HpB2b2kZG/4hTODPN/TAwaQlcOs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908231248h7c114529kbd3a0115f990c693@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908231248h7c114529kbd3a0115f990c693@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:59:00 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908231259n368ece53j75d6caa14aa3a9c9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bf54846ad950471d488a5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:59:02 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bf54846ad950471d488a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well that is more my nickel Rainer, that's pretty neat and slightly funny re the gaming world, guess this fits all, my son might dig it for his 360 world. To me that's the main jazz I need the basics then I could do other stuff with hands at least for now. Thanks for continuing to be amazingly resourceful Rainer. On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Jim, > > if cheap and small are the main requirements, why not look at > something like this: > http://gamingmouse.com/weapon.php?pid=31 > > This gives you four buttons for $59 via USB, and those buttons can be > mapped to keyboard commands (which in turn can trigger Mobius stuff). > So you could use that for the "realtime critical" functions and switch > between different mappings using scripts and keys on your keyboard (or > buttons on the floor thing), like this: > > Setup 1 > Record/Overdub, Mulitply, Mute, switch to setup 2 > > Setup 2 > Rate Shift Advance (which with the proper rate shift sequence will > work as halfspeed), Reverse, Next Loop, switch to setup 1 > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0023545bf54846ad950471d488a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well that is more my nickel Rainer, that's pretty neat and slightly fun= ny re the gaming world, guess this fits all, my son might dig it for his 36= 0 world. =A0To me that's the main jazz I need the basics then I could d= o other stuff with hands at least for now.

Thanks for continuing to be amazingly resourceful Rainer.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Rainer Str= aschill <m= oinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Jim,

if cheap and small are the main requirements, why not look at
something like this:
ht= tp://gamingmouse.com/weapon.php?pid=3D31

This gives you four buttons for $59 via USB, and those buttons can be
mapped to keyboard commands (which in turn can trigger Mobius stuff).
So you could use that for the "realtime critical" functions and s= witch
between different mappings using scripts and keys on your keyboard (or
buttons on the floor thing), like this:

Setup 1
Record/Overdub, Mulitply, Mute, switch to setup 2

Setup 2
Rate Shift Advance (which with the proper rate shift sequence will
work as halfspeed), Reverse, Next Loop, switch to setup 1




--
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www.myspace.c= om/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--0023545bf54846ad950471d488a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 20:29:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 282063BF35; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WZ+vMsd5nsJLlENBN0mhZCyytgOrREUdZtxWEWpjJ/M=; b=NjeEZ5Cdaf4NbD6Flb0OyBZarIDfoCB2biwLzRI4JzImAg8TOzF+bayYJ9UCsyCdg0 FMX5i7eSso9KtQad6/8K/evRsHH/vBmgBOgDXGGIxz/PTsta+IMmYxvyTm0zVhkAWLpw ZhsElzykJaur28b8hEmFkLc+Vq/o/ZdtnCB3I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YDYQY6iOyi9GLWUZ3iHMeiywBI3F8tmpmzeib4PZ8hGRyqlMHWGyXLm7txUtRya/c2 wW9dxkHip5SCKI1s/aXpLtHB4w1IxsBTdllkq9GZCx+lPwmxvyQ+msWMrTDBXJHKP/aA GAp42kclJrNwoqDXQqpkNIqLjov5DJFeXytq8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908231259n368ece53j75d6caa14aa3a9c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908231248h7c114529kbd3a0115f990c693@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60908231259n368ece53j75d6caa14aa3a9c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:29:14 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908231329x127c45f6q555a02fba33e67b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174411b4693a310471d4f46b Resent-Message-ID: <-9ePQC.A.nCH.caakKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:29:16 +0000 (UTC) --0015174411b4693a310471d4f46b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If i'm getting annoying to anyone re this pedal stuff please say the word but maybe it's useful info to some so far. I got another observation re my comment about my midi-guitar pedal. It's got 3 pedals, is it as simple as telling Mobius which of those 3 pedal midi channels (assuming each pedal is a channel) to use for those 3 responses? If so I'm sort of in business for the moment. --0015174411b4693a310471d4f46b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If i'm getting annoying to anyone re this pedal stuff please say the wo= rd but maybe it's useful info to some so far. =A0I got another observat= ion re my comment about my midi-guitar pedal. =A0It's got 3 pedals, is = it as simple as telling Mobius which of those 3 pedal midi channels (assumi= ng each pedal is a channel) to use for those 3 responses? =A0If so I'm = sort of in business for the moment.


--0015174411b4693a310471d4f46b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 20:53:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4B3F3BEF9; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=w7PT8cnX35ajYl2+NiyOlJL0j/vYg/zXb7UQbaPgJwo=; b=fP5R2UB45/D873W5UxPJi9cnpdielAbl8Cl7Ge7w6tMBlKp8JZiFGTCWSSzZD7iSYP RiQMuHSOvJhVKgMQvLKVbp++s/JifOlZneBqMFSd+NxO/mBWglEOyaGgJiXQCzBZA20i 9PHdoqw1ArkPzmfvkSR/meu9PU/SJEZDIiM7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wQh6pBUGjOIPEjJpW+cVj2Dbm/vX6pZW93ZKEeG9dKxkFcbMQOOS1ityCGNcn/weyv liXeBu1aXi9XPmbcHkAnGXSZv4f/6Pt9EnmnjqsqlMmPW0ryXtFG35KHI7kloTCLdFQR qllPi16YQL/rMEsP1UwomaeRQoDl90NbhGceo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908231248h7c114529kbd3a0115f990c693@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908231248h7c114529kbd3a0115f990c693@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:53:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908231353q67af4a3dxc3ab413b11fd59ca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:53:53 +0000 (UTC) That was a cool idea, Rainer! I guess you could as well use more than two of them and keep every fourth button for "switch to next setup"? If I wasn't well routed already with the FCB1010 I would look into these feet mouse pads and find a software solution for using three of them and have them active at the same time. I would also want a function that remaps the "virtual MIDI" being created from of these twelve buttons coming in over three USB ports, very similar to using banks in an FCB1010 pedal. When playing with the FCB for scale rate shifting I often find that it would be helpful with one or two more buttons just for being able to do those rare harmonies now and then that breaks out of the usual key/scale patterns. Thanks for posting this link, good to know those gadgets exists. For a mac user like me it is also a question of researching and evaluating USB port hubs, because modern macs don't offer many USB ports at all. My Macbook, that I use live for now, only has two! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > if cheap and small are the main requirements, why not look at > something like this: > http://gamingmouse.com/weapon.php?pid=31 > > This gives you four buttons for $59 via USB, and those buttons can be > mapped to keyboard commands (which in turn can trigger Mobius stuff). > So you could use that for the "realtime critical" functions and switch > between different mappings using scripts and keys on your keyboard (or > buttons on the floor thing), like this: > > Setup 1 > Record/Overdub, Mulitply, Mute, switch to setup 2 > > Setup 2 > Rate Shift Advance (which with the proper rate shift sequence will > work as halfspeed), Reverse, Next Loop, switch to setup 1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 21:03:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC6583BE9E; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pV6nitCNoBQvybhAzuVLg48zQ3oyfMfmUDE/aWXpqC0=; b=gs3C3maPmJ9l2Ff98Aty1xclE9Rhpn/RWNo22ZzCgot9pN7ABMoIfq+0SLCrZsp0Gp EkEzVqcyp7Yal9ejfG+qO0fr5dGi1gjkegh/N7BI+T8meFfPWuqKJJwewy9k24hXQ5b5 inEuXU6VAqgKMhGigR/TdDTr0R151W9yCO7Jk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gkV9fcucFV1homx4El5ayg9AZ+lgG5zy8RrgUCfqUJZDUbmznX/a0CRC80N/7tCNlR 0z7ClHzobYOlap8jHmklxgt+UbOH6S3RqLBQbErI0RRriQw21w6ZA74NulvSx1wnbXlk A9LD8CYWKnnV2vtH3G5QCd+XhnhppGzVjXURs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:03:43 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908231403p4932588bva2b63d37026677df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Jim asked: "I got another observation re my comment about my midi-guitar pedal. It's got 3 pedals, is it as simple as telling Mobius which of those 3 pedal midi channels (assuming each pedal is a channel) to use for those 3 responses?" It basically works like this: (this is assuming you're using Mobius standalone, if you're using it in a host app then getting the MIDI from the midi-guitar pedal to Mobius is beyond the scope of this text). 1. Select the MIDI interface for the pedal as "MIDI In" in the MIDI port configuration in Mobius 2. Select "MIDI commands" (or whatever it is called), and then it just works like with keyboard commands: check the "auto learn" (or whatever it is called) checkbox, select the function you want a pedal assigned to (like record), then press the pedal and there you go! Please note that anything more than assigning one pedal to one Mobius/EDP function will require scripts. An example would be to put record and overdub on one and the same button. I remember somebody once wrote a set of scripts that made the DL4 user interface available in Mobius. You may check the Mobius archives for those as an inspiration. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 22:49:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C74403BF1E; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aK0x1pYYHLJIKWA1YYAA:9 a=wmgEAv0eFlslh2_6cdjYv3WXzu4A:4 Message-Id: <9FC17216-1962-46F7-A271-9686B2F2518B@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <274872.52695.qm@web110405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EDP VG99 FC300 Problems Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:49:20 -0700 References: <274872.52695.qm@web110405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Fred, You're a braver MIDIman than I am Gunga Din. I still keep my EDP controls and my VG99 controls quite separate. I use the FC300 for the VG99 (and any other guitar processors) and stick with my 2 EFC7s for my EDP bank. If what you're doing works for you though . . . more power to you. As for the FC300 in general . . . I have found it less satisfactory than other control pedals I have used. I use it because I have it . . . and at least if gets it's power directly from the VG99 via that funny cable it has (one less wall wart). But there have been many times I've thought of dumping the FC300 entirely for something that works better. Heck, my old GR-1 synth box is a more flexible controller than the FC300 (and it has synth sounds too). Ted Killian On Aug 23, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Fred Fata wrote: > I am controlling my VG99 and EDP with the FC300. > I was using the EFC7. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 22:54:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 419C63BF08; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> <4A8C0E9D.5090707@tiscali.co.uk> <4A8D6A57.2080903@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: OT FS Looper MicroKorg FX etc Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:54:52 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:54:59 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: Re: OT FS Looper MicroKorg FX etc > yes, the Zoom 2100, > > a piece of looping history Hey, both the ones I have (one of them obtained from our own David Myers) still work fine. Wish I'd gotten the pedal to go with 'em. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 23 23:42:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50BEF3BF12; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=TQ/mW4mQa8HXkRX+wvzODWxS+oG/NzkzQRBwtpruKwk=; b=v98C3Wh6+eLEU4X+JzTrAyrF08dnLiRlzcwQxDRvRIWQ5aGyYHd6GduaZhpQa7HD3l KbvSpifZ1ij0apnTLU6FmEhmfSjCoeaTOJu/pP7alXaYOfCScgtNWJe+l30VPA98P0Ri czuM2e1rgivgmwxNPJRRk1W9A6uiG4FKEB1ks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=QVg6mF/n/W52TUI5xw+z9Yqaq2SvQnqnmLIBKdvaIBBLshKxzUJ6ow0TZT5/av88HA X9p2J5LaLAKc7x8zaXCo8wd/J6aKYfVNC3irpVBwpDbxnxVfw+fMSfZatd43fOAqZ+xB lyu19mXamQi+HyqI/8cu4iym6JiPMSiIAniYQ= Message-Id: From: Jim Goodin To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908231403p4932588bva2b63d37026677df@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5H11a) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5H11a) Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:36:29 -0400 References: <7334ca1b0908231403p4932588bva2b63d37026677df@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Rainer thx very much. I stepped through this but have further questions so will email you off list as dont want to wear out my welcome with everyone. On Aug 23, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Jim asked: > "I got another observation re my comment about my midi-guitar pedal. > It's got 3 pedals, is it as simple as telling Mobius which of those 3 > pedal midi channels (assuming each pedal is a channel) to use for > those 3 responses?" > > It basically works like this: > (this is assuming you're using Mobius standalone, if you're using it > in a host app then getting the MIDI from the midi-guitar pedal to > Mobius is beyond the scope of this text). > 1. Select the MIDI interface for the pedal as "MIDI In" in the MIDI > port configuration in Mobius > 2. Select "MIDI commands" (or whatever it is called), and then it just > works like with keyboard commands: > check the "auto learn" (or whatever it is called) checkbox, select the > function you want a pedal assigned to (like record), then press the > pedal and there you go! > > Please note that anything more than assigning one pedal to one > Mobius/EDP function will require scripts. An example would be to put > record and overdub on one and the same button. > I remember somebody once wrote a set of scripts that made the DL4 user > interface available in Mobius. You may check the Mobius archives for > those as an inspiration. > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 00:34:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A52E3BF12; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05CD459BB4CF42D18A7F582051B1233F@MichaelPC> From: To: References: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> <15115508E1D04E998CBB847D39547C46@MichaelPC> <4A90FACD.9080301@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A90FACD.9080301@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Nature loops Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:08:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Andy for the input. I tried a recording with a mic in the direction of traffic and one in the opposite direction and it seems like there's a huge hump of energy with a peak around 1700Hz. It's mostly crickets and frogs. I tried using Audacity but I may look in cool edit as well to see how it looks. Thanks again! ~Peace~ plish ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:16 AM Subject: Re: Nature loops > Don't know about research, > but traffic noise has plenty of lo frequency > content, and the high freqs drop off with distance. > > 3kHz sounds pretty high, obviously I can't tell without > knowing what your "nature sounds" consist of, but > most recordings I've made would be spoiled if there was nothing > below 3k. > I'd try the steepest possible hi pass filter and try and keep > it as low down as possible to let the nature sounds sound "natural". > 200Hz might be a good place to start. > If your filter isn't so steep, then run it several times, rather > than putting the frequency up. > > If you have Audition (aka Cool Edit) then that's the best sound editor > for doing this sort of thing. > (with a spectral display so really see the problem) > > > > andy > > mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: >> Hey folks! >> Doign some night nature loops and trying to get out some of the sounds of >> distant traffic. It seems like doign a high pass filter at about 3Khz >> does a pretty good job and looking at the spectrum it's in the ballpark >> but is there any research on this? >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 01:27:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A6383BF1F; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uq97V4eSnYZ9HrGJ7MoPSq92+c0LfTjsYPeoMe3D+ok=; b=XvcBs4sgNsT25wHV49MfrIUcKRAmaNwVdOwqKADNI5ZoGgVJPzKITiGCcRihzLFvQw VVBLClSGL/0m6+SRYbyxqGr0x801Ze5hhie6XEup+q6TRdrEhCeYabWIP2yRbJmWUK8q ++/9w1/r4enY3SI1vOgwT74GKQfiY/fm9WOno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=W9vdBfZP+Ci+fp4AXidj9L1v/bKouXo4+iv1Up0GvJgQXnJ9KN/KHZTNpaoACEx7YQ nmvjk7f4Kg1WRtRIklcsRUqepcK2emPf/VXk8hKVEILeieoCT2ICzVjdDb+d/k+6gD+e NTwOfEAo9U3rvf9+0IjpGuSM8VKTTRf1EFVWI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0908230953oeda057au37b1e2464db32369@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0908230953oeda057au37b1e2464db32369@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:27:30 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 91f7fbaccc68a00b Message-ID: <101191640908231827w4f3fb349mcd4c8df7a834d9b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "Life in High Dimensional Spaces" (realtime video processing) From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6435264146e6e0471d91f9d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:27:31 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6435264146e6e0471d91f9d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very cool, Rainer. Surprised me and made me smile. Warren http://www.warrensirota.com --0016e6435264146e6e0471d91f9d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very cool, Rainer. Surprised me and made me smile.
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--0016e6435264146e6e0471d91f9d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 02:01:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1275D3BF1E; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A91F479.2000401@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:01:29 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Favorite Loop Show of the Year Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:01:34 +0000 (UTC) I thought it would be cool to have everyone write in with their favorite live looping performance that they've seen in the past year, perhaps with a bit of a description of the performance so that we can turn each other onto some artists that we might not have had a chance to see, hear or even hear of. I can't think of a single year in the past 15 years of digital live looping where I've been turned on to so many fantastically talented and really original loopers. It's been a fantastic year so far in our world. My own favorite performance was Juana Molina up at Yoshi's in Oakland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_3ooACrLQ4 (profile) A former television comedienne and start, Juana gave up that career to concentrate on her singer/songwriter material. She has really beautiful and rhythmic and simple almost naive and childlike songs that she sings on acoustic guitar but she also obviously has a strong background in synthesis, modern music, found sound so she has a beautiful palette of custom synthesizer sounds combined with found sound and unusual percussion. She just picks really unusual, 'out of the box' and really emotionally evocative sounds and plays them with exquisite rhythmic precision and arrangement sensibility. She also speaks broken English and is very charming and very funny in her repartee with the crowd. I've seen her now three different times and even been privileged to open for her and hang out with her afterwards since I first discovered her. She's been mentioned several times on this list before but if you haven't checked her out, do yourself a favor and go see her or buy her CDs. Definitely my favorite live looping show of the year. 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SENATE PRESIDENT.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 02:59:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66E053BF00; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:59:06 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251082345; bh=U1AFNLSccohML3pqXAmci6eOCCiYhs24zBb0iGN/hyQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J7fxsTcOlOlXrUdieyHdLoEif9TE+u0FUedYorDZr9UkfZyMU/SU+8se5Ul9E/E2GuQk7U68Bq0bcQGDEY+dy9QV0Mg8tqLO7jtR2qOanJ1aZcd5fump8MI/rZT1IBqn/CI2RMfbYn5P5Jnni5X/evIb2PnJnzJtHsvZJ8zPkuc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UFw6emQz5JhI+6zU7M1ia3a4NGrEtz49Z4jHkKpJZeoWSwExxOrE27UqUIzMr0Xwo+VYsUIdXO7uxAAe/LNKLlcqYbmet5UKjegJx+xiaB+a/dpOrqRkMBzZGpvy/BKiNb8rV5590UD0hT43H8otouwUoM4trO07WLSDj9gaIy0=; Message-ID: <258493.87090.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IA9vLQwVM1lvLcwRyCDaHR88HhvBfk262im.t3NNiJQfpd1rIf9VNElgJvXqXMAKvV3ohLUE3IoNn7dbgaJ1LNuDM0EwoRqzKbpAsEMKPFpqEmTjQ4dJPkot0P9gQeyvL9TGZeUukxf.YKXtwuqwzGAAGMRz2.WSWvmiGsFmq2ooJgtadVByrutpLR1oLtA_eZwgnB1xp4NlW8S4PDCDlCTEpLkPJOD.KxBPz3ElYcfamH.AELUBtkasr02d7WJ4iU0P8m6mrG5U7.6mWsAZ0l3aYh6BoUNff6CJ.xgH0s2j7QSEF8Us0WblXssDS6JE80AXp671U15C X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:52:25 -0700 (PDT) From: jan gyn Subject: Re: Favorite Loop Show of the Year To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A91F479.2000401@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1540679144-1251082345=:87090" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:59:06 +0000 (UTC) --0-1540679144-1251082345=:87090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just saw Juana Molina Saturday 08/22 at the Yerba Buena in San Francisco. S= he was awesome. Openers Amy Neuburg and the Cello ChiXtet were also great.-= jan --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: Favorite Loop Show of the Year To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 7:01 PM I thought it would be cool to have everyone write in with their favorite live looping performance that they've seen in the past year, perhaps with a bit of a description of the performance so that we can turn each other onto some artists that we might not have had a chance to see, hear or even hear of. I can't think of a single year in the past 15 years of digital live looping where I've been turned on to so many fantastically talented and really orig= inal loopers.=A0 =A0 It's been a fantastic year so far in our world. My own favorite performance was Juana Molina up at Yoshi's in Oakland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Do_3ooACrLQ4=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0(profile) A former television comedienne and start,=A0=A0=A0Juana gave up that career= to concentrate on her singer/songwriter material. She has really beautiful and rhythmic and simple almost naive and childlike= =A0 songs that she sings on acoustic guitar but she also obviously has a strong background in synthesis, modern music,=A0 f= ound sound so she has a beautiful palette of custom synthesizer sounds combined with foun= d sound and unusual percussion. She just picks really unusual,=A0 'out of the box' and really emotionally e= vocative sounds and plays them with exquisite rhythmic precision and arrangement sensibility. She also speaks broken English and is very charming and very funny in her r= epartee with the crowd. I've seen her now three different times and even been privileged to open fo= r her and hang out with her afterwards since I first discovered her. She's been mentioned several times on this list before but if you haven't c= hecked her out,=A0 do yourself a favor and go see her or buy her CDs. Definitely my favorite live looping show of the year. =0A=0A=0A --0-1540679144-1251082345=:87090 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just saw Juana Molina Saturday 08/22 at the Y= erba Buena in San Francisco. She was awesome. Openers Amy Neuburg and the C= ello ChiXtet were also great.
-jan

--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Rick = Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
Subject: Favor= ite Loop Show of the Year
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 7:01 PM
=
I thought it would be cool to have everyone wr= ite in with their
favorite live looping performance that they've seen in= the past year,
perhaps with a bit of a description of the performance s= o that we can
turn each other onto some artists that we might not have h= ad a chance to
see, hear or even hear of.

I can't think of a single y= ear in the past 15 years of digital live looping
where I've been turned = on to so many fantastically talented and really original
loopers.  =   It's been a fantastic year so far in our world.


My own fa= vorite performance was Juana Molina up at Yoshi's in Oakland.

http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Do_3ooACrLQ4       (= profile)


A former television comedienne and start,  &n= bsp;Juana gave up that career to
concentrate on her singer/songwriter ma= terial.

She has really beautiful and rhythmic and simple almost naiv= e and childlike  songs that she sings on acoustic guitar but
she al= so obviously has a strong background in synthesis, modern music,  foun= d sound so
she has a beautiful palette of custom synthesizer sounds combined with found sound and
unusual percussion.

She just picks= really unusual,  'out of the box' and really emotionally evocative so= unds and
plays them with exquisite rhythmic precision and arrangement se= nsibility.

She also speaks broken English and is very charming and v= ery funny in her repartee with the crowd.

I've seen her now three di= fferent times and even been privileged to open for her and hang out with he= r
afterwards since I first discovered her.

She's been mentioned s= everal times on this list before but if you haven't checked her out,  = do yourself a
favor and go see her or buy her CDs.

Definitely my = favorite live looping show of the year.


=0A=0A --0-1540679144-1251082345=:87090-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 04:44:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3986C3BF14; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0r5iW88qs0nnkwZqSmCO4Wtp8sgrqs4wOhPNTQ6wV9k=; b=dCHKsbuEGXqLVMAyLENK5o4fmyikllvvOxsfjgtVdMcggWnws9WNCCpumkRhesXw64 YPXKMNJi6VQ4Nu+r5Hw5/QsXMeWowL07R0auhx0nqlpL8V6ffAL3qOdQuJz5SvjYL15+ G500kr8uwnZwGFRJlzUNQTCEx2LozllgiTfWA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HHRrlUdDf9a1eHX/gGPzMYANTRQWbj8Ziz//NJpYUiXe2N+1oJUqxDihuU1OSM5dzy d0QBdIkL1bMiN4Avy1tU5Tpy0LoV/NxorTp/iNPIRfpW+QpJWS/VU6M+UtvnXAw78Cp9 rP6fxoIxGYkCahqFbWJdYV+LxiCN2C+XOgkac= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A91F479.2000401@cruzio.com> References: <4A91F479.2000401@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:44:22 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908232144y2aebc790gb0380ae14cf68d0c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Loop Show of the Year From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bef70264c0a0471dbdf12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:44:24 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bef70264c0a0471dbdf12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recall you talking about her around last year's Y2K, that's a really neat artist profile. The top of it seems to be people falling in love with her voice and vocalizations among her use of technology. Reminds me of Suzanne Vega in a sense when she burst on the seen years ago as this sort of angelic songstress except here Juana has embraced and uses technology which is timely and really cool. Most of my experience with looping and looping awareness has been primarily this community so people I've seen or come to know for the most part are among us. Some timely memories of the last year for me and part of this one were, Mark Hamburg's closing set at last year's Y2K, Margaret Noble's turntable and other set at same festival, Stanasaur's use of 'noise', recent uStream's segments by Jeff Duke, Rainer Straschill, Matt Stevens and Steve Moyes, particularly the latter had some bearing on me revisiting Mobius and using it on my set today. Because of all of you I've had a greater awareness and curiosity about technology and bringing it into my muse. Jim --0023545bef70264c0a0471dbdf12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recall you talking about her around last year's Y2K, that's a rea= lly neat artist profile. =A0The top of it seems to be people falling in lov= e with her voice and vocalizations among her use of technology. =A0Reminds = me of Suzanne Vega in a sense when she burst on the seen years ago as this = sort of angelic songstress except here Juana has embraced and uses technolo= gy which is timely and really cool.

Most of my experience with looping and looping awareness has= been primarily this community so people I've seen or come to know for = the most part are among us. =A0Some timely memories of the last year for me= and part of this one were, Mark Hamburg's closing set at last year'= ;s Y2K, Margaret Noble's turntable and other set at same festival, Stan= asaur's use of 'noise', recent uStream's segments by Jeff D= uke, Rainer Straschill, Matt Stevens and Steve Moyes, particularly the latt= er had some bearing on me revisiting Mobius and using it on my set today.

Because of all of you I've had a greater awareness = and curiosity about technology and bringing it into my muse.

Jim
--0023545bef70264c0a0471dbdf12-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 04:48:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12B653BE86; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kB9q8LdKhXLWfTYgQdyi2BZ46XAMmtzOLhruZaROlMg=; b=d9pStksPTLtHEk4QXjc3sbReq3qrW0597pgjR563qXXciHb7lRjiVmkZalx0bCOOlV R2qZsW97JAQC787BhzNeeBHnY/QT6eoYFU7Z0c53c8h2LVmTS/KmNhjpgFgUopPS5yYh 9V9RvbTEvTgFfhtya3O2SPr7Poty63HPRuJ6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R3G9lFWZDvP472kPGxF4OoeIwjRK4eMGeCGeJE3aDB3EN1FqZELXdekq2AsYcqcVdh NQPBSFALgJANU0sIm7bgqpfst2udG4zQxjsdMkfhFythamXSK1sXVJe8D9SuVP47MD52 MQYsaYj4fZonHqrvScY3+f4lhR53QEETME+/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <258493.87090.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4A91F479.2000401@cruzio.com> <258493.87090.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:48:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Favorite Loop Show of the Year From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:48:37 +0000 (UTC) it sounds quite unbelievable, by what she says in the profile, that is working with two unsynced loop pedals, since the song parts/layers usually go tightly glued... probably one looper feeds the other ... maybe, at least, one of them it's synced to some hw sequencer/clock/arpeggiator from the synths ... dunno. 2009/8/24, jan gyn : > Just saw Juana Molina Saturday 08/22 at the Yerba Buena in San Francisco. > She was awesome. Openers Amy Neuburg and the Cello ChiXtet were also > great.-jan > > --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Rick Walker wrote: > > From: Rick Walker > Subject: Favorite Loop Show of the Year > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 7:01 PM > > I thought it would be cool to have everyone write in with their > favorite live looping performance that they've seen in the past year, > perhaps with a bit of a description of the performance so that we can > turn each other onto some artists that we might not have had a chance to > see, hear or even hear of. > > I can't think of a single year in the past 15 years of digital live loopi= ng > where I've been turned on to so many fantastically talented and really > original > loopers.=A0 =A0 It's been a fantastic year so far in our world. > > > My own favorite performance was Juana Molina up at Yoshi's in Oakland. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Do_3ooACrLQ4=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0(profile) > > > A former television comedienne and start,=A0=A0=A0Juana gave up that care= er to > concentrate on her singer/songwriter material. > > She has really beautiful and rhythmic and simple almost naive and childli= ke > songs that she sings on acoustic guitar but > she also obviously has a strong background in synthesis, modern music, > found sound so > she has a beautiful palette of custom synthesizer sounds combined with fo= und > sound and > unusual percussion. > > She just picks really unusual,=A0 'out of the box' and really emotionally > evocative sounds and > plays them with exquisite rhythmic precision and arrangement sensibility. > > She also speaks broken English and is very charming and very funny in her > repartee with the crowd. > > I've seen her now three different times and even been privileged to open = for > her and hang out with her > afterwards since I first discovered her. > > She's been mentioned several times on this list before but if you haven't > checked her out,=A0 do yourself a > favor and go see her or buy her CDs. > > Definitely my favorite live looping show of the year. > > > > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 05:11:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D16C3BEDC; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BgVDuoGCa6sDqmO3/CqgLvsuiylTmTfoxdqF3dBivzVVhPvWWirBPA7QdGUGdCu7; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <17480112.1251090718403.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:11:58 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Favorite Loop Show of the Year Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48208f66ad2fe60d979f03c01a45875ad8667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.27 Resent-Message-ID: <7m6pXD.A.hTB.eEikKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker Subject: Favorite Loop Show of the Year >I thought it would be cool to have everyone write in with their >favorite live looping performance that they've seen in the past year, >perhaps with a bit of a description of the performance so that we can >turn each other onto some artists that we might not have had a chance to >see, hear or even hear of. well the band i work w/ MERMEN 's Jim Thomas does the most creative looping(within a song). he has two edps that he has setup to work in sync- outa sync -separate-together, any configuration...and while he doesnt do complete loop songs-alot of their tunes start w/ his loops. such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D-mBrYnYxU From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 05:32:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAED23BF1D; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wLJCCv8ebmoA688rzmywMohekAUGvj+y8zSRGrhJGz4=; b=bHjOWraVCzGP+viGf+aVH3iIoj0FT5PK14RTCVAdAl7MvRYcMPeSNmJqwPLYSQHPI6 LJZTQ2vNT80xh0HQrVSIw/me/IiJnYKWTE1NGKe3pv1V7iKyPssrTqpNCyNl/XnfBtey OZTdKF16PfPU9Kuuw6UeNS06XtBskRpBx18qI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gbDQtplfvVbQe7fZuLNUmbDrFLEbMxbSpOhssF0eybPgEQ3t/D0PyHGt3Dp3bPojS/ N7WrTd/2Iv+jHNBbBg1ylpg+/0bW9RPsa2EVRh68pjoNcNaNsE1a7wPUiMM/8iRzWxtN 2HkwFgVEQyKXOXTiDOSF31J0ISguBLd1uRgOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <17480112.1251090718403.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <17480112.1251090718403.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:32:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Favorite Loop Show of the Year From: Raul Bonell To: stanitarium@earthlink.net Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:32:46 +0000 (UTC) nice band ... check this too.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReZaQ_c9VmU&NR=1 2009/8/24, stanitarium@earthlink.net : > Rick Walker > Subject: Favorite Loop Show of the Year >>I thought it would be cool to have everyone write in with their >>favorite live looping performance that they've seen in the past year, >>perhaps with a bit of a description of the performance so that we can >>turn each other onto some artists that we might not have had a chance to >>see, hear or even hear of. > > > > well the band i work w/ MERMEN 's Jim Thomas does the most creative > looping(within a song). > he has two edps that he has setup to work in sync- outa sync > -separate-together, any configuration...and while he doesnt do complete loop > songs-alot of their tunes start w/ his loops. such as: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D-mBrYnYxU > > > > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 06:35:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82FB43BEFB; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BeqOXukC96+NKIvb4qSW9aXAUiF5jruMdqQzwMvO6hI=; b=MK0n1qg5wKRNzCXcqt4PPX07XbVMCMmWdg+cTJfPys8LjDv2MTN34Moy9eOB0HCUG5 bDYnvhQUu5UzoKLFN8pqXaeBchxiaLSHMwlLQ5HjNm2qcslVv+vEPtbjDEbihCCuGhyF OzXZPKf8AmKxon2yFcN7Al4bzzsua2Rebb+eQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=qpz/808wD/XGNIXTG4Qv393QdabL/K8C3eayK5dk7JRa19dgNQGxHih/SQa08A17+8 y9kmiH/n3TsD0ciJGM6Js/f+o5SDp5KwiZN3frzF+3q70q/g5gLzWFJKn6Amx7VHypVt 3Ii3TIT2gG9iHHswCA1gxbYBiwIC7ZJuVBsyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:35:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: OT: recursive sequencer From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:35:31 +0000 (UTC) hi there, http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/energyXT2.5-Plus.aspx does anybody know of some sequencer, like (before freebie) energyXT capable of working as a plugin inside another host in OSX? energyXT2 does it, but only for windows. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 07:20:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 993693BF06; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NcvLxliC/7vOyU3847izni8I4AMhO5Z/5ola9G4lgfo=; b=QEXFRS2Fjc/cm9uQhLRgGEb7Xe7/oQB85RwHHuIjNLm0WYUGcTrocRGlqelQ9jSFUf XDX5Msai3xJ2KsCZr9i3B5monyo51tJEyEmx0hP1Ek3yFfASL8ceMlviUlvDO9RKU+U0 uA9Ue3UcNxZINhjtBxyn969ik2WQookZX4LLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Lq2XfTWodiPEuTlWJrBt849szgXfIC3jItnTPf2kYgpIl60Cm7knwZOBTIchgtiYro 8JV1hDq/YdEW3ST4IG6mha1TAED39Ffoo6TS/TBQNd6Q4I+dDAS4Tf04tlvRU7VjOhka 64umFRYgClw6aY0pUR2Lu+xAclZOHalj5V/ZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:19:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: OT: midi plugins database From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <55yRiD.A.qpG.g8jkKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:20:00 +0000 (UTC) simply... http://www.midiplugins.com/ -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 07:55:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 435073BF05; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 247653231/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.184.203/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.184.203 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYBALvjkUpPTrjL/2dsb2JhbAAI0w2EGgWKXQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,264,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="247653231" Message-ID: <4A924790.40202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:56:00 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP VG99 FC300 Problems References: <274872.52695.qm@web110405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <274872.52695.qm@web110405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Fred Fata wrote: > While in Control Change mode I record sound into the EDP, > I return to Sysex mode and change patches on the 99 via the 300, > an audible thump is heard in the recorded info in the EDP. that's the edp trying to deal with all those sysex commands. Are you using a different midi ch for the EDP? don't know if that would help, but edp may not read the sysex if it's on a different channel. You could try chaining 300>>99>>edp so edp doesn't get sysex, but beware added midi latency. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 08:36:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E45503BF05; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=M/4fFl3UPzxtbylOSg58i+TGj/05te+aOuoooTF+hiA=; b=c66uJtyKDAuVepRRxqy7yHGBhNAj1GDpHry2l76ic5Gmgns4+cv2mUmi3D17fTuHhV /Xm8rN7YyGvaMWtPU/Lq2+4K9I1GI0cdo1H5Pqfnh21GeZiIKnvQySy4ZXMYyipB2U5b Lct02ZfmSTP4G/xSb7JM5I04xuDisUSZb6kYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vkWRhOBKOVqb4rubsg8puQHp21MWB7Rzm0vMjRefo83L3iCceBEt408hbhCtgn6UfI FLfEOKNv88GBPGYg93ZdRhZLKYgf/uJ/2jzJ4jPvX3A0uV4C+3iVzEo9Ufdr7FsjF437 9JS93StTCfNyqWOUm/SxFW6JZnjCoJWGwV74I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:36:11 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908240136l75dcaf6bj4b31dcac83e4a89f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: midi plugins database From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:36:11 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > simply... > http://www.midiplugins.com/ Thanks, Raul. A lot of goodies there! :-)) I noticed the page was lacking one new player and submitted the MonoNote AU plug-in from Five12 to their database. MonoNote offers some of Numerology's modular step sequencing capabilities as a MIDI plug-in for a host application. It seems to be out in public within a couple of days. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 08:58:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A29B3BF06; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1602 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:58:23 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GOBXP4sW7oxWGAFOIgghoz7W4ZyepGFl8ABPIXms0BA=; b=qHRGmj3qYtWBh/bBAQ18HRu6Dwb22ea6015MoJBrHznpZmNAtVefNHBiqYkGVcdjaU dm8JpLqdrq9kxGXGbZc+wwO3xM9P6e27yU82Z+cOTzUQOjDPyKhp9tc2FJYo/VxJeDCU SJTCanKzBL0+khjR/9817e09muXkYiCViVk/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fZkI8vhH/BZl1zceqCnKWSFRcZvyqe10OIWe9k3hm42wYY6hyyfLAHulZ8aGVJYXlo 8zL7YzpTLdj7cIAuy/FXHijyrTpbPXNmfN1HfL32FzJbZAqQu8lu3hJhUn3HAF5Jo8PN tVnR959e4DxCprpwoUQ0CmoQYC4Ux/3uHuwo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:31:38 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908240131t1b20f01elde1fc0a3ec520c48@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of original works! From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517402aa4e6e73e0471df0b9b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:58:24 +0000 (UTC) --001517402aa4e6e73e0471df0b9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys! As I understand, most of the people from this mailing list are musicians. And great musicians too! So what I propose is to try to set up a compilation together - as a certain result, an output of this community. We can all submit tunes (you can send them to me with an email subject "For compilation"), make cover art and put it online. I can suggest my own resource for that - Disc Shelf (www.disc-shelf.com) - which can host the files and actually present the compilation quite beautifully. the album can then be embedded onto the website and such, so might be quite useful. Anyway, this is my proposal - tell me what you think! Louigi Verona. www.louigiverona.ru --001517402aa4e6e73e0471df0b9b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys!

As I understand, most of the people from this mailing list= are musicians. And great musicians too!

So what I propose is to try= to set up a compilation together - as a certain result, an output of this = community.
We can all submit tunes (you can send them to me with an email subject &quo= t;For compilation"), make cover art
and put it online.

I can= suggest my own resource for that - Disc Shelf (www.disc-shelf.com) - which can host the files and actually<= br> present the compilation quite beautifully.

the album can then be emb= edded onto the website and such, so might be quite useful.

Anyway, t= his is my proposal - tell me what you think!

Louigi Verona.
www.louigiverona.ru
--001517402aa4e6e73e0471df0b9b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 09:36:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58B893BEF9; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 251243501/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.184.203/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.184.203 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYBAFb8kUpPTrjL/2dsb2JhbAAI0xyEGgWKXQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,264,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="251243501" Message-ID: <4A925F0B.4070205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:36:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Nature loops References: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> <15115508E1D04E998CBB847D39547C46@MichaelPC> <4A90FACD.9080301@tiscali.co.uk> <05CD459BB4CF42D18A7F582051B1233F@MichaelPC> In-Reply-To: <05CD459BB4CF42D18A7F582051B1233F@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Oh, that's strange. Check for narrow frequency bands in the noise that you could notch out. (they won't be necessarily be revealed by a spectrum plot until you really increase the FFT size) andy mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Thanks Andy for the input. > > I tried a recording with a mic in the direction of traffic and one in > the opposite direction and it seems like there's a huge hump of energy > with a peak around 1700Hz. It's mostly crickets and frogs. I tried > using Audacity but I may look in cool edit as well to see how it looks. > > Thanks again! > > ~Peace~ > plish > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 09:41:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9B203BEF3; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NlFrk8bH+ZhEF11yF/ESyJuLDlyjuhizdPwvhcsue7g=; b=xyT8debxwrvGOo3JaMLPR4TyDzxH7gzh/S2KzFp/xBF2DWhYYaWfmr8DpRPKPko+Kl vLJT8NJXrd+w7qhfjaIvyoXgnEKBLncQMaoPneCHZuOsq0R93Qy5nX5X15KMc/U/CU+K NNz4bLFrVogZr7fEY/0u1+8iGy/uk/rcED67A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dckgK/2FOu9qr8pjcHKSpG87ITelOMnIdmNX/VKOgCVwhHCiSSMZlk5yivBE4nP5lM zQSgXCwQEXof5dhUxa1DaBTw1UA96gzGNg/a5ud/+ArBpZnd1nuUcV11DWDLHmOm09yc cO6WrzIWIKtm9Ar8TygtP4xBZlyZR6Obh1Vcg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908240144yad7653q386db34779edf19b@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0908240144yad7653q386db34779edf19b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:41:46 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908240241ia6679cdn6bb972ad39fe10b0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: microtuner for mac From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:41:48 +0000 (UTC) > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> check this out ... just popped up when searching for a vsti midi sequencer >> >> http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/downloads.php/id/2726/software/Max-Magic-Microtuner/ > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Awesome! Awesome! This is what I was looking for yesterday! I needed > to convert micro tuning scripts from Scala to AnaMark and found a > Windows application that worked. But this is better, not having to > reboot into Windows every time. Thanks for the tip, downloading as I > type! > > Had a lot of fun yesterday with a Burmese scale on fat synth brass > drones. Going micro tonal is somewhat addictive... I noticed my guitar > suddenly felt a bit lame with its nice and polished tempered tuning > fret placement ;-)) I just checked out this Max created application and it really rocks! The thing is that although the free Windows appl TuneTools I found yesterday works, the tunings still sound bad. I needed no more than a couple of minutes with the PDF manual for Max-Magic-Microtuner to understand why: In Logic you can specify a root note of the key when applying a micro tonal tuning scale to electronic instruments and then Logic calculates every note in the chosen tuning based on the root note of the key you type in. I had not understood that other software doesn't do this, although I had my suspicions after looking all over the Alchemy synth without finding any way to refer the synth to the key. The rough truth is that TuneTools and all those micro tonal third-party synth plug-ins out there (Alchemy, Cameleon5k, Albino etc etc) they only sound okay in C when playing micro tonal scales. If you want to do a piece in B, as I was up to yesterday, you need to manually recalculate the tuning script for the root note B, put that script in the synths tuning script library folder, reboot your host application and import the micro tuning into the plug-in instrument. Wow... as a Logic user I never had an idea folks out there had all these issues! ;-)) Now, the great thing with this Max-Magic-Microtuner is that it makes it a breeze to create a tuning script for a third-party synth and have it run microtonally in tune with Logic's micro tonal system (that works seamlessly only because the Logic software instruments are actually not plug-ins but integrated parts of the application). So again, for me that was a very good tip from Raul! Microtuner will become one of my most used software tools. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 11:20:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9511D3BEF9; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1251112846; l=4954; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=QCqjfCc3kdUSXz7ctN5fPDFA3b8=; b=LMY2GkPOqUCWzMjOkskZ1QFZOTbjHJfcW8jjdfi4A8tt2wgoh+mTRFAfP/WEogNh7o7 pjNB2bcL18qd6bxBfK+4jYGD5QfvE5UIW1QbcCHHUwlUdzwuxD7fSkGcylFxZwZ1VW5Pc UbnmfMtfW1fyPaMsNJ3iBuE9sB6pFa1NW4Y= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWbBObpUsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <01d801ca24ad$6f0ebf20$0301a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <20aeede50908240131t1b20f01elde1fc0a3ec520c48@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of original works! Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:24:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D0_01CA24BE.2D9A17E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01CA24BE.2D9A17E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great idea, Louigi! As I think the loopers delight-community contains several 100s of = loopers, it will be difficult to select the best of all the tunes if you wanna put it on CD. Or do you think of an MP 3 compilation or just something for the = internet for downloading?=20 That might be better as you could put a lot more songs on it. Anyway, I certainly would like to provide a track. Can I send you an MP3-file? Best, Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Louigi Verona=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:31 AM Subject: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of original = works! Hey guys! As I understand, most of the people from this mailing list are = musicians. And great musicians too! So what I propose is to try to set up a compilation together - as a = certain result, an output of this community. We can all submit tunes (you can send them to me with an email subject = "For compilation"), make cover art and put it online. I can suggest my own resource for that - Disc Shelf = (www.disc-shelf.com) - which can host the files and actually present the compilation quite beautifully. the album can then be embedded onto the website and such, so might be = quite useful. Anyway, this is my proposal - tell me what you think! Louigi Verona. www.louigiverona.ru ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01CA24BE.2D9A17E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great idea, Louigi!
 As I think the loopers = delight-community=20 contains several 100s of loopers, it will be difficult to select the = best of all=20 the tunes
if you wanna put it on CD.
Or do you think of an MP 3 compilation = or just=20 something for the internet for downloading?
That might be  better as you could put a lot more songs on = it.
Anyway, I certainly would like to = provide a=20 track.
Can I send you an = MP3-file?
Best,
Christo
www.christojota.de
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Louigi=20 Verona
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 = 10:31=20 AM
Subject: Let's put together a = Loopers=20 Delight compilation of original works!

Hey guys!

As I understand, most of the people = from this=20 mailing list are musicians. And great musicians too!

So what I = propose=20 is to try to set up a compilation together - as a certain result, an = output of=20 this community.
We can all submit tunes (you can send them to me = with an=20 email subject "For compilation"), make cover art
and put it=20 online.

I can suggest my own resource for that - Disc Shelf (www.disc-shelf.com) - which can = host the=20 files and actually
present the compilation quite = beautifully.

the=20 album can then be embedded onto the website and such, so might be = quite=20 useful.

Anyway, this is my proposal - tell me what you=20 think!

Louigi Verona.
www.louigiverona.ru
------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01CA24BE.2D9A17E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 11:25:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A46703BEF9; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 10000 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:25:18 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xCeCVXqiKEqugrdFRm+UW+X9wOfNapxg9VTp1PL0gxs=; b=mm3uvlociKiMa7zfT3thpqjjqLNaCVk+gGf4e/ZqVVY2Nh53In7Uu7o0zgwrOnpOft VG9TzXGCeYsD+oRisnVNdC9Y+FSld/653r3N6NXK1adQhf2N1kloQ2lLPVrpjvT3Idhx YtSpYTe9Qtxk1fflLapasp+aRBNuyT3Tr4y+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WcZoas4X5fbjCaKyimGhLDipvUXVn68wyssQtVNbE9PZyK5qlxLsSHKPvfV7eTDouO E7cUWtIzxJz0btAowE2KCTjO3CXq5LdigxuX/lqH1vHnLlUHODXRQSuT+BPMe+O1WKEe ZvfWRqhsgxoJfXTj9bbuSyLnbaWkRObkzqDiU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01d801ca24ad$6f0ebf20$0301a8c0@Toshiba> References: <20aeede50908240131t1b20f01elde1fc0a3ec520c48@mail.gmail.com> <01d801ca24ad$6f0ebf20$0301a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:25:16 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908240425v72b4da0et9405bec657807e3a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of original works! From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517447dc6e2d5750471e17865 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:25:19 +0000 (UTC) --001517447dc6e2d5750471e17865 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, I was speaking about an online mp3 compilation, something that can be put online on www.disc-shelf.com I choose Disc Shelf not only because it is my project, but because it provides sleek design, so that all the albums can look very beautiful. If the response to this idea is positive and a lot of people would want their track, we can do this - make several compilations. Limit the number of tunes in each compilation to, say, 15-20. Also, perhaps we can try to not have much quality control and see where it leads us. If a musician submits one tune, surely he'll give us his best. That way anyone who wants can participate. Once the albums are available, we can share this music with friends and fans all over the world, which might strike more interest to looping music with good examples readily available. L.V. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Christo Jota wrote: > Great idea, Louigi! > As I think the loopers delight-community contains several 100s of loopers, > it will be difficult to select the best of all the tunes > if you wanna put it on CD. > Or do you think of an MP 3 compilation or just something for the internet > for downloading? > That might be better as you could put a lot more songs on it. > Anyway, I certainly would like to provide a track. > Can I send you an MP3-file? > Best, > Christo > www.christojota.de > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Louigi Verona > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 10:31 AM > *Subject:* Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of original > works! > > Hey guys! > > As I understand, most of the people from this mailing list are musicians. > And great musicians too! > > So what I propose is to try to set up a compilation together - as a certain > result, an output of this community. > We can all submit tunes (you can send them to me with an email subject "For > compilation"), make cover art > and put it online. > > I can suggest my own resource for that - Disc Shelf (www.disc-shelf.com) - > which can host the files and actually > present the compilation quite beautifully. > > the album can then be embedded onto the website and such, so might be quite > useful. > > Anyway, this is my proposal - tell me what you think! > > Louigi Verona. > www.louigiverona.ru > > --001517447dc6e2d5750471e17865 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I was speaking about an online mp3 compilation, something that can be= put online on www.disc-shelf.com=
I choose Disc Shelf not only because it is my project, but because it p= rovides sleek design, so that all the albums can
look very beautiful.

If the response to this idea is positive and a = lot of people would want their track, we can do this - make several compila= tions.
Limit the number of tunes in each compilation to, say, 15-20. Als= o, perhaps we can try to not have much quality control and see
where it leads us. If a musician submits one tune, surely he'll give us= his best.

That way anyone who wants can participate. Once the album= s are available, we can share this music with friends and fans all over the=
world, which might strike more interest to looping music with good examples= readily available.

L.V.

On Mon, A= ug 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
Great idea, Louigi!
=A0As I think the loopers delight-comm= unity=20 contains several 100s of loopers, it will be difficult to select the best o= f all=20 the tunes
if you wanna put it on CD.
Or do you think of an MP 3 compilation= or just=20 something for the internet for downloading?
That might be=A0 better as you=A0could put a lot more songs=A0on it.
Anyway, I certainly would like to prov= ide a=20 track.
Can I send you an MP3-file?
Best,
Christo
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Louigi=20 Verona
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:3= 1=20 AM
Subject: Let's put together a = Loopers=20 Delight compilation of original works!

Hey guys!

As I understand, most of the people from = this=20 mailing list are musicians. And great musicians too!

So what I pro= pose=20 is to try to set up a compilation together - as a certain result, an outp= ut of=20 this community.
We can all submit tunes (you can send them to me with = an=20 email subject "For compilation"), make cover art
and put it= =20 online.

I can suggest my own resource for that - Disc Shelf (www.disc-shelf.com) = - which can host the=20 files and actually
present the compilation quite beautifully.

t= he=20 album can then be embedded onto the website and such, so might be quite= =20 useful.

Anyway, this is my proposal - tell me what you=20 think!

Louigi Verona.
www.louigiverona.ru

--001517447dc6e2d5750471e17865-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 13:29:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CC283BEF3; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=vKfYchBCkcSZCp+uS7znZtjQlXZyn3ANh48PNy93up8=; b=rOgc6/xUCYdQv2f+ESbgH1nu9wQKfaFkGkpagHrki4A6PDEh1wpiMArF6hrJmPyzNK 20P+YTmjETIj8YrIFDNSXlJAdctxtSJEWDe/9s0jINOy99kXd0ozwdvhmDwYoxeco1fK sKN3zDdhqeiJlgW70NL7kwq4OblHL/gqmeDpc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=eNlKFZWUfjLq5it/6Yyq2PMc/7lxeNUxm2EDjF4AKcRJJG57/69H019igyCueTKC5K sD3deE1uR0mEm9N3JaB8mcWO2W0Dr9dToqjwTLaop7X31UUa92nQ2qI+zuSnqmrkG0vB goT/wWtwlsVsXZt0vBOExP9oLXwkqX8WYifZE= Message-Id: <7A80BD3D-73B3-4257-AAC3-41AB84D08C22@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908240425v72b4da0et9405bec657807e3a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-42-82930027 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ubetoo.com (was: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of original works!) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:29:13 -0300 References: <20aeede50908240131t1b20f01elde1fc0a3ec520c48@mail.gmail.com> <01d801ca24ad$6f0ebf20$0301a8c0@Toshiba> <20aeede50908240425v72b4da0et9405bec657807e3a@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:29:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-42-82930027 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit may I suggest to collect on http://www.ubetoo.com/livelooping I am ready to pass this slot to someone who cares for the community (I only occupied it to avoid that someone uses it for his own music) or maybe better even: if you feel that your music could be called livelooping, ubetoo is the best place to offer it, because they have a category Live Looping! (our Warren started this!) http://www.ubetoo.com/songs/live_looping/most_played_24_hours not only you will be found easier... ... but you earn money each time someone listens to your music! On 24 Aug 2009, at 08:25, Louigi Verona wrote: > Yeah, I was speaking about an online mp3 compilation, something that > can be put online on www.disc-shelf.com > I choose Disc Shelf not only because it is my project, but because > it provides sleek design, so that all the albums can > look very beautiful. > > If the response to this idea is positive and a lot of people would > want their track, we can do this - make several compilations. > Limit the number of tunes in each compilation to, say, 15-20. Also, > perhaps we can try to not have much quality control and see > where it leads us. If a musician submits one tune, surely he'll give > us his best. > > That way anyone who wants can participate. Once the albums are > available, we can share this music with friends and fans all over the > world, which might strike more interest to looping music with good > examples readily available. > > L.V. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Christo Jota > wrote: > Great idea, Louigi! > As I think the loopers delight-community contains several 100s of > loopers, it will be difficult to select the best of all the tunes > if you wanna put it on CD. > Or do you think of an MP 3 compilation or just something for the > internet for downloading? > That might be better as you could put a lot more songs on it. > Anyway, I certainly would like to provide a track. > Can I send you an MP3-file? > Best, > Christo > www.christojota.de > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Louigi Verona > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:31 AM > Subject: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of > original works! > > Hey guys! > > As I understand, most of the people from this mailing list are > musicians. And great musicians too! > > So what I propose is to try to set up a compilation together - as a > certain result, an output of this community. > We can all submit tunes (you can send them to me with an email > subject "For compilation"), make cover art > and put it online. > > I can suggest my own resource for that - Disc Shelf (www.disc-shelf.com > ) - which can host the files and actually > present the compilation quite beautifully. > > the album can then be embedded onto the website and such, so might > be quite useful. > > Anyway, this is my proposal - tell me what you think! > > Louigi Verona. > www.louigiverona.ru > --Apple-Mail-42-82930027 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable may I suggest to collect on http://www.ubetoo.com/liveloopi= ng
I am ready to pass this slot to someone who cares for the = community (I only occupied it to avoid that someone uses it for his own = music)

or maybe better even:
if you = feel that your music could be called livelooping, ubetoo is the best = place to offer it, because they have a category Live Looping! (our = Warren started this!)
n= ot only you will be found easier...
... but you earn money = each time someone listens to your music!

On 24 = Aug 2009, at 08:25, Louigi Verona wrote:

Yeah, I = was speaking about an online mp3 compilation, something that can be put = online on www.disc-shelf.com
I choose = Disc Shelf not only because it is my project, but because it provides = sleek design, so that all the albums can
look very = beautiful.

If the response to this idea is positive and a lot of = people would want their track, we can do this - make several = compilations.
Limit the number of tunes in each compilation to, say, = 15-20. Also, perhaps we can try to not have much quality control and = see
where it leads us. If a musician submits one tune, surely he'll = give us his best.

That way anyone who wants can participate. Once = the albums are available, we can share this music with friends and fans = all over the
world, which might strike more interest to looping = music with good examples readily available.

L.V.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Christo Jota = <chris@christojota.de> = wrote:
Great idea, Louigi!
 As I think the loopers delight-community contains = several 100s of loopers, it will be difficult to select the best of all = the tunes
if you wanna = put it on CD.
Or do = you think of an MP 3 compilation or just something for the internet for = downloading?
That = might be  better as = you could put a lot more songs on it.
Anyway, I certainly would like to provide a = track.
Can I send you = an MP3-file?
Best,
Christo
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, = August 24, 2009 10:31 AM
Subject: Let's put together a Loopers = Delight compilation of original works!

Hey = guys!

As I understand, most of the people from this mailing = list are musicians. And great musicians too!

So what I propose = is to try to set up a compilation together - as a certain result, an = output of this community.
We can all submit tunes (you can send = them to me with an email subject "For compilation"), make cover = art
and put it online.

I can suggest my own resource for = that - Disc Shelf (www.disc-shelf.com) - which can host the files = and actually
present the compilation quite beautifully.

the = album can then be embedded onto the website and such, so might be quite = useful.

Anyway, this is my proposal - tell me what you = think!

Louigi Verona.
www.louigiverona.ru


= --Apple-Mail-42-82930027-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 14:13:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 467F63BEEC; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A92A002.9010000@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:13:22 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #646 for August 20, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:13:30 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090820.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #646 August 20, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight was Villa Galaxia on Binary Records. Saul Stokes: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#aug PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Vic Hennegan Seascape Aqua Vista (Alien Tribes) Stephen Parsick Sediment Cambrium (Doombient) Megatone Supernova Pure Land (none) Parallel Worlds Frightening Shade (DiN) Frontiers Frank Van Bogaert Insomnia Air Machine (ACE) with Erik Wollo SteveRoach Further Inside Dynamic Stillness (Projekt) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== SteveRoach A Darker Light * Dynamic Stillness (Projekt) Saul Stokes Hello Radar Villa Galaxia (Binary) Saul Stokes Vapor Trails Villa Galaxia (Binary) Saul Stokes Blaze Villa Galaxia (Binary) Saul Stokes Night Painting Villa Galaxia (Binary) Saul Stokes Eta Car Is a Massive Villa Galaxia (Binary) Star Saul Stokes Future Gamma Villa Galaxia (Binary) Saul Stokes Embedded in Amber Villa Galaxia (Binary) Saul Stokes Interrupted By Time Villa Galaxia (Binary) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Metacollage on Stokesmusic Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 14:54:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C95843BEF0; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 350 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:54:13 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=QzMczk4AG8yWHXUqY99htOJZDj6waZa66EVDfFqWT28=; b=i6rD9PZ99GPXa/S0sBYfUFCjCKLBtZc9MrZYa/Rn4FERu16rTY4S/BteJfXI/K5scM z9866UoOKKon+ArPo3H/oqD7jQ4NFkOm2aK9gRtFoooYGIRrH/DlkU+wi+mKukOdZ4mj JugIvEXdcXUx/LHuHJ8In4aSX9muVGfYT+nKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=QVZpTRJDWfqPNbryRKOiUpxXwe7kyoXcr85CDeYkbN1vluNK1KS+LRPAFP4pbO7p0N URRU+7D1RUg5uoQRIfLOecl9PyrEmcHOGDVoDmslMzGdoZD9mx2aGMMQySGSRgWvczZt WCiezUDyf5a3U923zy22Auw6dWMNgs+QTkG9I= Message-Id: <46EFFFE4-FEC0-4EE3-B056-C6FC13F837D6@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A924790.40202@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EDP VG99 FC300 Problems Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:47:55 -0300 References: <274872.52695.qm@web110405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4A924790.40202@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:54:13 +0000 (UTC) that right, Andy! sorry, Fred, since we have a very old processor (like a Mac Plus!) in the EDP its audio DSP part stops when it has to deal with Sysex. Usually thats not a problem because Sysex is used to change parameters while not playing, and a single command hardly creates an audible interruption. but if you send Sysex streams meant for other units to it as well, it hicks up. to select different channels does not solve the problem, because it needs to analyze the data anyway. Sysex does not differentiate channels but IDs so I dont think it does much with the stuff you send to the 99 anyway, but just to figure out that the data is not aimed to it, takes proc time... I suppose you will have to either command the 99 some other way or filter the Sysex stuff so it does not go through it or filter it in a separate midi box between 99 and EDP... there are many options, probably... good luck! Matthias On 24 Aug 2009, at 04:56, andy butler wrote: > > > Fred Fata wrote: > >> While in Control Change mode I record sound into the EDP, >> I return to Sysex mode and change patches on the 99 via the 300, >> an audible thump is heard in the recorded info in the EDP. > > that's the edp trying to deal with all those sysex commands. > > Are you using a different midi ch for the EDP? don't > know if that would help, but edp may not read the sysex if it's > on a different channel. > > You could try chaining 300>>99>>edp so edp doesn't get sysex, > but beware added midi latency. > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 17:34:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 793C23BEEC; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251135247; bh=QyNhIgbSJVgJqV9OTbc9ZmsHZJfV4XcdoOHlkIbKfIk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=crQcUZ3UKgIoH15QwsIdMwpoFt+GU7s3z5C9a248rwSVHINDwtQW8bYOIPAFap5mZh352TlYzEUkZondM5kG9j5jenOatw7esnafG947KPbgDwHssQUbfPHI8bI9xd5S6s4Qd/y7z6w00fvOsbQmAxnbZrT/ovY45Gguy2fbZNI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q5ahbx7+lUgpAemru/gXeebKbwWubzinFlf8yFUUW4M+MvssFejhcWiNAnmNmVfjhXWi+xriLY9zcKtxMGOExIAFNtThhRlFGTYzHYfEuy6VdHn41ZsIQrpb5NFQIvpykCb5lvf1bPUaSWq5A5F08y/NFuusWxP/bcxrfCb4ZLg=; Message-ID: <725880.89870.qm@web54012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fWOYtloVM1kC8uHvShhK8185jktEBueupg8QFnUUaTOy69Lc7oreUM5OCsRWz1X8C.grflSbEq8Yx8Tum.ACNMNS5lwzAZIU9fe7HZkymhwQuEAdpGVVmIlhB0_yusP.X7bUU1iMEyMNAPigwhKqukQ7Tv8Zd9nq_2QprXYHEGveaZJXU7y8CcJIlFcZyMTJhesqVCu1zgisSb5AJ76gB981oS5c05KdL3lwwvgRHhVeOjMGHAgi6sk36CutWp3AeQfMShmVJrS1VxeZXAL.YGP6sagAV9xKH0oQi0YMbLwU0XWsynHlSEFMZxfm9xoiynYxtcMU4L8j4PjTP_WSd.TJc.Y2uz.. X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:34:07 -0700 (PDT) From: murkie Subject: Stone Document NJ Gig Spam To: news@twistedapplerecords.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Stone Document Live at Amazing Grapes in Pompton Lakes Sat. August 29th. Dennis Tirch (guitars and loops), Mike Roze, (vdrums), and Mark Christensen (Chapman Stick, synthesizers and loops) will be playing improvised progressive music with an ambient flavor at this wonderful wine bar from 9 to midnight on Saturday night, the 29th of Aug. Amazing Grapes 23 Wanaque Avenue Pompton Lakes, NJ http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=23+Wanaque+Avenue%2C+Pompton+Lakes%2C+NJ And now back to our regularly scheduled programing... www.TwistedAppleRecords.com Stone Document's Anamnesis now available from iTunes!http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=301414103&s=143441 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 18:52:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C630A3BEE7; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <92A91A9A6F9544EC86EBF8BE2C4E7493@MichaelPC> From: To: References: <20aeede50908240131t1b20f01elde1fc0a3ec520c48@mail.gmail.com> <01d801ca24ad$6f0ebf20$0301a8c0@Toshiba> <20aeede50908240425v72b4da0et9405bec657807e3a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908240425v72b4da0et9405bec657807e3a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of original works! Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:52:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011B_01CA24C2.142A6AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:52:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01CA24C2.142A6AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Louigi, Cool layout at Disc-shelf! Just signed up! ~peace~ plish ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Louigi Verona=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of = original works! Yeah, I was speaking about an online mp3 compilation, something that = can be put online on www.disc-shelf.com I choose Disc Shelf not only because it is my project, but because it = provides sleek design, so that all the albums can look very beautiful. If the response to this idea is positive and a lot of people would = want their track, we can do this - make several compilations. Limit the number of tunes in each compilation to, say, 15-20. Also, = perhaps we can try to not have much quality control and see where it leads us. If a musician submits one tune, surely he'll give = us his best. That way anyone who wants can participate. Once the albums are = available, we can share this music with friends and fans all over the world, which might strike more interest to looping music with good = examples readily available. L.V. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Christo Jota = wrote: Great idea, Louigi! As I think the loopers delight-community contains several 100s of = loopers, it will be difficult to select the best of all the tunes if you wanna put it on CD. Or do you think of an MP 3 compilation or just something for the = internet for downloading?=20 That might be better as you could put a lot more songs on it. Anyway, I certainly would like to provide a track. Can I send you an MP3-file? Best, Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Louigi Verona=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:31 AM Subject: Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of = original works! Hey guys! As I understand, most of the people from this mailing list are = musicians. And great musicians too! So what I propose is to try to set up a compilation together - as = a certain result, an output of this community. We can all submit tunes (you can send them to me with an email = subject "For compilation"), make cover art and put it online. I can suggest my own resource for that - Disc Shelf = (www.disc-shelf.com) - which can host the files and actually present the compilation quite beautifully. the album can then be embedded onto the website and such, so might = be quite useful. Anyway, this is my proposal - tell me what you think! Louigi Verona. www.louigiverona.ru ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01CA24C2.142A6AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Louigi,
 
Cool layout at Disc-shelf!
 
Just signed up!
 
~peace~
plish
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Louigi=20 Verona
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 = 6:25=20 AM
Subject: Re: Let's put together = a Loopers=20 Delight compilation of original works!

Yeah, I was speaking about an online mp3 compilation, = something=20 that can be put online on www.disc-shelf.com
I choose = Disc Shelf=20 not only because it is my project, but because it provides sleek = design, so=20 that all the albums can
look very beautiful.

If the response = to this=20 idea is positive and a lot of people would want their track, we can do = this -=20 make several compilations.
Limit the number of tunes in each = compilation=20 to, say, 15-20. Also, perhaps we can try to not have much quality = control and=20 see
where it leads us. If a musician submits one tune, surely he'll = give us=20 his best.

That way anyone who wants can participate. Once the = albums=20 are available, we can share this music with friends and fans all over=20 the
world, which might strike more interest to looping music with = good=20 examples readily available.

L.V.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Christo Jota = <chris@christojota.de> = wrote:
Great idea, Louigi!
 As I think the loopers = delight-community=20 contains several 100s of loopers, it will be difficult to select the = best of=20 all the tunes
if you wanna put it on = CD.
Or do you think of an MP 3 = compilation or just=20 something for the internet for downloading?
That might be  better as you could put a lot more songs on=20 it.
Anyway, I certainly would like to = provide a=20 track.
Can I send you an = MP3-file?
Best,
Christo
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Louigi Verona
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:=20 Monday, August 24, 2009 10:31 AM
Subject:=20 Let's put together a Loopers Delight compilation of original = works!

Hey guys!

As I understand, most of the = people from=20 this mailing list are musicians. And great musicians = too!

So what I=20 propose is to try to set up a compilation together - as a certain = result,=20 an output of this community.
We can all submit tunes (you can = send them=20 to me with an email subject "For compilation"), make cover = art
and put=20 it online.

I can suggest my own resource for that - Disc = Shelf (www.disc-shelf.com) -=20 which can host the files and actually
present the compilation = quite=20 beautifully.

the album can then be embedded onto the = website and=20 such, so might be quite useful.

Anyway, this is my proposal = - tell=20 me what you think!

Louigi Verona.
www.louigiverona.ru

Thanks for watching and listening. =A0My next = ustream will be next Sunday at 11 EST (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-= 11). =A0Will and I will do another EoW show sometime this fall. =A0Kudo= s to Mr Moyes on an excellent show today btw.

Good week


--000e0ce0edb85523de04714c95a7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 02:03:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FC4A3BE8D; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250474582; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=cDuYoLLhYi+uH4lDvXGddLLxDDE=; b=nVqbtUNVHGmgGarucyhadH9iOmO7vl7Q8dIBWfM//MjfiKN/mfPQtq4uhg/J6+bs wIlxS4j9LUUFkZRSfl18BiygdqMVDK/ukeOH8w7VZ2UijYRvrSA7fWfX2H3AX66F; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=FcAFIstCAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=kx_2D3HVAAAA:8 a=L7sGXHddAAAA:8 a=W5nPZqLVce52lwQV2BsA:9 a=FyIkjK6CubXdkWkfPiYA:7 a=rGHuuHuwn39ogDxDbPfg-NFaepoA:4 a=wDdADeS8CmIA:10 a=NV0LgFqsyRYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=X2YODmIZQ4M5JXUq:21 a=eL8zljtdRkcMNIhZ:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <003801ca1ede$d9e83fd0$8f802245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <20090815163504.F72AE.37285.root@ispmxfep10-z02> <000c01ca1e8a$2e70e070$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A88500D.4020002@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD..and more Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:03:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Andy, Great link and even better quality. I do love flac when I can get it! That's one reason I like Bandcamp for my digital music offerings. You send wav and they offer qualities all the way up to flac. best, Jeff He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which. Douglas Adams http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:29 PM Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser Solo CD..and more > > Doug H wrote: >>> Mr Kaiser doesn't get enough credit when it comes to the history of >>> looping. His piece "It's a Wonderful Life" is a stellar example of the >>> genre.. >>> Jeff Duke wrote: >> btw, that is availiable here: >> http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2009/08/henry-kaiser-solo-guitar.html >> >> Jeff >> > > that one on FLAC, rather than mp3 here > > http://www.avantgardeproject.org/archive.htm > > also a couple of earlier Kaiser albums, > > ..and a whole load of "avant garde" classical stuff > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 03:10:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5073B3BE8F; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:10:09 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a840ac92-d7c7-4c11-89fe-64d8c36bb009_" X-Originating-IP: [69.244.201.224] From: Jonathon Rogers To: Subject: Lexicon Rackmount JamMan for sale Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:05:08 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2009 03:05:09.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[875BCEE0:01CA1EE7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:10:09 +0000 (UTC) --_a840ac92-d7c7-4c11-89fe-64d8c36bb009_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an original rackmount Lexicon JamMan for sale. It is missing the AC= adapter but includes the footswitch. It worked perfectly the last time I = used it and as you all know compatible adapters are cheap and easy to find.= One of the rackmount ears is damaged from being mounted and unmounted=2C = but otherwise it is in great condition with smooth control pots and has bee= n kept safely stored. I figured I'd offer it here first before listing it on Ebay since I have a = soft spot for list users. I first got the JamMan years ago after hearing P= hil Keaggy use it live...figured if it was good enough for him I needed it!= I just don't use it anymore so it's time to pass it on. I'm happy to provide pictures as requested=2C just contact me at jonnyr_1@h= otmail.com. My Ebay ID is jon-and-kara...I think you'll see I can be trusted! Give me some offers! _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live=2C you can organize=2C edit=2C and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery= --_a840ac92-d7c7-4c11-89fe-64d8c36bb009_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an original rackmount Lexicon JamMan for sale. =3B It is missing= the AC adapter but includes the footswitch. =3B It worked perfectly th= e last time I used it and as you all know compatible adapters are cheap and= easy to find. =3B One of the rackmount ears is damaged from being moun= ted and unmounted=2C but otherwise it is in great condition with smooth con= trol pots and has been kept safely stored.

I figured I'd offer it he= re first before listing it on Ebay since I have a soft spot for list users.=  =3B I first got the JamMan years ago after hearing Phil Keaggy use it = live...figured if it was good enough for him I needed it! =3B I just do= n't use it anymore so it's time to pass it on.

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With Windows Live=2C you can organize=2C ed= it=2C and share your photos. Click here. = --_a840ac92-d7c7-4c11-89fe-64d8c36bb009_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 13:21:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63BAE3BEA0; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A895942.4050202@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:21:06 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #645 for August 13, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:21:14 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090813.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #645 August 13, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight was Vast on The Foundry Records. Saul Stokes: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#aug PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Meesha Axon part 1 Pentorama (none) Asnazzy Asteroid Navigation Voyage To Andromeda (none) Steve Dinsdale WDR 74 New Church (Northern Echo) Faryus and Bodarenko Atmosphere 3 8 Atmospheres (Faria) Igneous Flame and II/II Harmonium (Lumina Sounds) Disturbed Earth Ben Fleury-Steiner At A Distance Soeng (none) Saul Stokes Chrome Garden Vast (The Foundry) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Saul Stokes Lighthaus Vast (The Foundry) Saul Stokes Far Away, Further Vast (The Foundry) Saul Stokes Stratum Vast (The Foundry) Saul Stokes Bursts and Blooms Vast (The Foundry) Saul Stokes Spy Cinema Vast (The Foundry) Saul Stokes Gliders Vast (The Foundry) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Villa Galaxia on Binary Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 13:57:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EA383BEA0; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iBO3/pVA9G3XepHt4SKjdEhE/Ga3Pyc672d9dq+tMAg=; b=iQIjtUKzMUEIdzUn0TRj8YTHix8koHMZwYWYMVgEPqf1XoRlDqZv0QyugYI1RLiXyI FME06Gu50Q431Pf0qTOic1aZ4o3lvQ20KWaWguG6p7GadVumCyGbF8QCdA1RVDutC8ub zyBKHjXwCpmtC/FGnJY+yrEutjss7NdI37dqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GO/EgzsKTr1zcCYU4TZVJD0CCYO7LgQT/ybJ3feosIq1k2y1kFaV3WVF8Pl4T9boc5 w9NHm1XrgaGNB53oAFr7Q2S+DSwjHcdsModsq4BlQOtUhCjOy8cCd5EjzHU5yj8CDI1N V8GzwfkOoCVH3BHP7VlKxDQ0lGoT4BslarVyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20090815163504.F72AE.37285.root@ispmxfep10-z02> <000c01ca1e8a$2e70e070$2a842245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:57:38 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 80d0dd911503bd14 Message-ID: <101191640908170657r78c01e27q4f09750bbdd2220f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RIP Les Paul From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:57:39 +0000 (UTC) very nice 1992 interview at http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=3D13 On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM, phillip wilson w= rote: > really sad=A0to hear the news that Les Paul has died ages 94. > > "He is responsible for hits "Brazil", "Vaya Con Dios", =93Mockin=92 Bird = Hill=94, > =93How High the Moon=94 and album =93Chester and Lester.=94 He completed = one of his > first solid body guitars in 1951 after perfecting it over a period of 10 > years. Les Paul made advances in the music recording process through tape > delay, playback speeds, close-in microphones for vocals and multitrack > engineering." > > what a guy, whotouched all our lives without even meeting many of us, my > sympathies go out to all who knew him at this time. > > Phill > > > ________________________________ > Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks, emoticons, display pics, > and more. Get Them Now --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 16:45:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60BBE3BE9E; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 325 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:45:53 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ElJ06YvkQr4l62o1ORK5frVvJPsfinas3FTZ4Lx0uTM=; b=qxPLNlWJwGcdA7riPJt5fIFv4Ed+See3Hhi1VSvEFJkxtaKoi22lT7bPs1H3dU3sPO 8eRvZ5ZB3F72c5MX76yWFz0DCXbSBSuUGW48sgbpkkgy84nAMIXln/yYxHHJqUbSXXf5 vAO6U2LLWDVJFiu+V4scv4k132btR25ahInJM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Q7AI3lBGEyb86RTZmTrqacmcSzS9aw8SwcGfy5e4NLyDSaGbyzsKkjTtga4nHpWM5z mzqyPB5tWuCyUc+gg/kzD0O89YRuJMwvgwA3dtLfstxsvNM6XBzbmBeFw/N88Awi2yNM PqxjbooxdnBZuJG4xMHv2pjnkO+CRWbfz82rk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:40:27 -0400 Message-ID: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed6caa2fea3a0471590f15 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:45:53 +0000 (UTC) --001636ed6caa2fea3a0471590f15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We use a video camera on ours wired to a tv in our room and along with the wireless mouse it is noise free, problem solved! Weg On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:28 PM, john floridis wrote: > I have been having a dilemma in trying to find a way to record acoustic > guitar with/without voice and was curious if anyone had any ideas. Long > story short- > > Present set up is: > 2007 Macbook, > Mbox 2, > one external monitor screen > > Using macbook to run either Logic or Pro Tools and saving files to external > drive. > > When recording with open mics, fan comes on in macbook to the point that it > makes recording either solo guitar pieces or even guitar/voice recording > rather pointless. In these cases nothing else would be added to the > recording, so nowhere to hide. > > I've come to the conclusion that I simply need to put macbook in closet > next to recording space. I know this will work sonically, but I'd still > like two monitor screens, and one needs to mirror the macbook screen or at > least have the menu bar. I did find this product- > http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/dh2go/ and I'm curious if > anyone has any experience with such a device. The tech support seemed to > think it would work for what I'm trying to do. > > The other question is .... Is there something I'm missing here? > > Finally, given what I'm trying to accomplish - recording quiet music with > access to two monitor screens - what are some other setups people are using? > I've heard the new iMacs are amazingly silent, but the idea of having > something with a fan that could come on makes me nervous. I'd rather make > what I have work. > > By the way, looping would come into play once I get all of this to work. > > Any input is appreciated, > > John > > > -- Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Verizon.net TheWeg@GMail.com --001636ed6caa2fea3a0471590f15 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We use a video camera on ours wired to a tv in our room and along with= the wireless mouse it is noise free, problem solved!
=A0
Weg

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:28 PM, john floridis <= span dir=3D"ltr"><john@johnflor= idis.com> wrote:
I have been having a dilemma in = trying to find a way to record acoustic guitar with/without voice and was c= urious if anyone had any ideas. =A0Long story short-

Present set up is:
2007 Macbook,
Mbox 2,
one external monitor = screen

Using macbook to run either Logic or Pro Tools and saving fil= es to external drive.

When recording with open mics, fan comes on in= macbook to the point that it makes recording either solo guitar pieces or = even guitar/voice recording rather pointless. =A0In these cases nothing els= e would be added to the recording, so nowhere to hide.

I've come to the conclusion that I simply need to put macbook in cl= oset next to recording space. =A0I know this will work sonically, but I'= ;d still like two monitor screens, and one needs to mirror the macbook scre= en or at least have the menu bar. =A0I did find this product- =A0h= ttp://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/dh2go/ =A0 and I'm cu= rious if anyone has any experience with such a device. =A0The tech support = seemed to think it would work for what I'm trying to do.

The other question is .... Is there something I'm missing here?
=
Finally, given what I'm trying to accomplish - recording quiet musi= c with access to two monitor screens - what are some other setups people ar= e using? =A0I've heard the new iMacs are amazingly silent, but the idea= of having something with a fan that could come on makes me nervous. =A0I&#= 39;d rather make what I have work.

By the way, looping would come into play once I get all of this to work= .

Any input is appreciated,

John
<= br>



--
Greg Wegmann

TheWeg@Verizon.net
TheWeg@GMa= il.com

--001636ed6caa2fea3a0471590f15-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 16:53:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 274B23BEAE; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250528026; bh=9DmqT67ARjtnNsT7xKmgkMlrqSFoJqLKQCCn5ctFqPw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h7qi4un04PD+ZxWS7xI1qLIgKUyflyV/kaxITD04t/4VfkbTXKM02Fpmv++q39gJTHlHnl/gs01Hl9ZqXXzmSWgT9jLjPaAqmSRO3jc2BFnPexM0RwhgVNntNnXYObtIMCKayRVCfSEiU5UEePcDgB6anwIoQ559xETA+18yfP8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=znNLoEEJgOVMEnlwK5qdwvS2h1e8e83fdNPavCl406izWEpvMEx9J7DmcBNZBsbxBu/JMR3d8Sn8rcpYwWh+PWtTUkVtxwq9KS2tJr/fuLY9k8B4+0rBIa33t0E2a7mg5xKJb3dxAUX6e8w/F4Ot1n4m9D4xASx69IJ88CfTDoM=; Message-ID: <45667.21075.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HF9D3YQVM1lrWIYBIan6sqdAFvUZiuFxX6jHKRCQKBPVbgZzlj.kjHDtNUd6CKk1CMZzh704qod3nrhBroISdhqU32uc2IiH_KbyNueiaaKfSrkDeWOcS_OH7IwBZP0Hd73DSg8DkF69bYJyHmeAO7rRBsJLYAIO7uahMBi3e.VMl3SKz7TsX4MeKGOcR4PwA3nQ_JC.hFDrH2PicPDvq4JKWRQKf_M6RcduWwrP7W_2uJJv7eC8YeGHg.pOVzPWbfTiCGQErScHqUDJb4Ec.fwkDthav5h0e4zV4sn7bclwDW6Zh6_nO_UTINOPPw.uVAvfP3te5CTYNf.apvTbYrM- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: RE: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1009363247-1250528026=:21075" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:53:47 +0000 (UTC) --0-1009363247-1250528026=:21075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Thanks to all that replied.=A0 I'll keep my eyes peeled for a DT-7... If I get a footswitch, I'll run it in the tuner-out of my pedal (an old Bos= s PS2) and see what happens... =A0 =A0 Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sat, 8/15/09, William Walker wrote: From: William Walker Subject: RE: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 7:28 PM Yep that's correct M.=A0 =A0 Korg DT-7 and a momentary footswitch, there ma= y be other tuners this works with too but the DT-7 has an actual mute jack. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Mech [mailto:mech@m3ch.net]=20 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:46 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: footswitch in "tuner out" At 8:30 AM -0700 8/15/09, ditch wrestler wrote: >I think it was a while back that somebody said by putting a latched=20 >or unlatched footswitch into an effect pedal's 'tuner out' plug=20 >would act as a kill switch, muting all that was going through the=20 >pedal. I think I know the trick you're talking about, and you're having=20 trouble finding it (I think) 'cause a couple of your details are=20 munged. I believe you're referring to a trick discovered by our own William=20 Walker while using one of the Korg tuners.=A0 There are a couple of the=20 Korg models that have an input for a pedal to be used as a "Mute"=20 switch.=A0 You can attach a unlatched footswitch (like a Roland=20 FS-series switch) into this connector and use it as a 'killswitch' to=20 create your own gating effects. I'm sure that if you search back for Bill's posts looking for "Korg=20 tuner" you'll probably find the thread you're searching for.... =A0=A0=A0 --m. --=20 _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AYahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookma= rk your favourite sites. Download it now=0Ahttp://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. --0-1009363247-1250528026=:21075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Thanks to all that replied.  I'll keep my eyes peeled for a DT-7.= ..
If I get a footswitch, I'll run it in the tuner-out of my pedal (an ol= d Boss PS2) and see what happens...
 
 
Ted H.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

-= -- On Sat, 8/15/09, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>= wrote:

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com&g= t;
Subject: RE: OT: footswitch in "tuner out"
To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
Received: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 7:28 PM


Yep that's correct M.    Korg DT-7 and= a momentary footswitch, there may be
other tuners this works with too b= ut the DT-7 has an actual mute jack.
Bill
-----Original Message-----<= BR>From: Mech [mailto:mech@m3ch.net]
S= ent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:46 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject= : Re: OT: footswitch in "tuner out"

At 8:30 AM -0700 8/15/09, ditch = wrestler wrote:
>I think it was a while back that somebody said by pu= tting a latched
>or unlatched footswitch into an effect pedal's 'tun= er out' plug
>would act as a kill switch, muting all that was going = through the
>pedal.

I think I know the trick you're talking a= bout, and you're having
trouble finding it (I think) 'cause a couple of your det= ails are
munged.

I believe you're referring to a trick discovere= d by our own William
Walker while using one of the Korg tuners.  T= here are a couple of the
Korg models that have an input for a pedal to = be used as a "Mute"
switch.  You can attach a unlatched footswitch= (like a Roland
FS-series switch) into this connector and use it as a '= killswitch' to
create your own gating effects.

I'm sure that if = you search back for Bill's posts looking for "Korg
tuner" you'll probab= ly find the thread you're searching for....

    --m.<= BR>--
_____
"the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...."

<= /DIV>

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Give t= he gift of Flickr! --0-1009363247-1250528026=:21075-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 17 17:33:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 853BA3BEBA; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wRK7gYbvMqkUwqaqj96L51LOQQDceiQufQfAJF2sHOU=; b=CjtcgHsXq41dcXy96P5PWMfWbmx4/cvqetCunBjaPv5c76crJCj+TaZZVQgSShaygy 5x+OtvKUg7URNI62xGYxCpsH03wvKtqELTEcmj372B0fA8sDp5Fby5Xljh03d15BiVpF PUl9j9MCpt1FXvfffXS8TfPCK1DAeXh46ZWcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Z+BuSi7popZ3n489Dt1J+pViWrazZGrtuNFKMvyd7a8LEwVusIRutwdcueiizc5UA1 dwi3NNsLhHf/44aJzV7VSGoAcsQz1QbZe9VXyNfdrL1OYe6pfGIvI6TI5mFUKBoR2BLL s1BBGKaIx+Rt4ZiPOA5M5WxPGR+XJKkEIo/AU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:33:30 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3b67c5c83eab4440 Message-ID: <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3XRia.A.1FD.rRZiKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:33:31 +0000 (UTC) so the built-in jack for the external monitor is not sufficient for you? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Thomas Wegmann wrote: > We use a video camera on ours wired to a tv in our room and along with th= e > wireless mouse it is noise free, problem solved! > > Weg > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:28 PM, john floridis > wrote: >> >> I have been having a dilemma in trying to find a way to record acoustic >> guitar with/without voice and was curious if anyone had any ideas. =A0Lo= ng >> story short- >> >> Present set up is: >> 2007 Macbook, >> Mbox 2, >> one external monitor screen >> >> Using macbook to run either Logic or Pro Tools and saving files to >> external drive. >> >> When recording with open mics, fan comes on in macbook to the point that >> it makes recording either solo guitar pieces or even guitar/voice record= ing >> rather pointless. =A0In these cases nothing else would be added to the >> recording, so nowhere to hide. >> >> I've come to the conclusion that I simply need to put macbook in closet >> next to recording space. =A0I know this will work sonically, but I'd sti= ll >> like two monitor screens, and one needs to mirror the macbook screen or = at >> least have the menu bar. =A0I did find this product- >> =A0http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/dh2go/ =A0 and I'm cur= ious if >> anyone has any experience with such a device. =A0The tech support seemed= to >> think it would work for what I'm trying to do. >> >> The other question is .... Is there something I'm missing here? >> >> Finally, given what I'm trying to accomplish - recording quiet music wit= h >> access to two monitor screens - what are some other setups people are us= ing? >> =A0I've heard the new iMacs are amazingly silent, but the idea of having >> something with a fan that could come on makes me nervous. =A0I'd rather = make >> what I have work. >> >> By the way, looping would come into play once I get all of this to work. >> >> Any input is appreciated, >> >> John >> >> > > > > -- > Greg Wegmann > > TheWeg@Verizon.net > TheWeg@GMail.com > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From mrsrosemarycollins2_734@msn.com Mon Aug 17 19:50:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 322 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:50:26 UTC Received: from blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.31]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D3B3BE98; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU130-W5 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:44:52 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_462b3ece-023b-4320-a7f9-ee44b0443564_" X-Originating-IP: [41.222.192.69] Reply-To: From: Mrs Rosemary Collins Subject: Dearest Friend, PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND GET BACK TO ME. 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The VIRTUAL SOUND AND VISION Festival myspace: http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival facebook: http://tinyurl.com/mp6r5c twitter: http://twitter.com/vsvfest email: virtualfestival =C4TT moinlabs DOT de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 00:10:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25E973BEBA; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--483381848 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:10:41 -0600 References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:10:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--483381848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "so the built-in jack for the external monitor is not sufficient for you?" The problem is that if you use two external monitors apart from the screen on the macbook, the images on those two external monitors are mirrors of themselves. This would be desirable for a classroom presentation, business meeting etc., but what I am looking for is the ability to have the two external monitors be a split screen which I can use to have, say, a video image up while I'm recording with Logic for a video project or film. Doing that and being able to record quiet acoustic stuff is why I'm looking for two external monitors and having the computer in another room instead of just using the macbook screen and one external monitor. I've ordered a splitter box from Matrox which supposedly should work according to their tech people. I'll let you know. If it doesn't, I might look at one of the new iMacs...... Thanks for all the posts, John --Apple-Mail-1--483381848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "so the built-in jack for the = external monitor is not sufficient for you?"

The = problem is that if you use two external monitors apart from the screen = on the macbook, the images on those two external monitors are mirrors of = themselves.  This would be desirable for a classroom presentation, = business meeting etc., but what I am looking for is the ability to have = the two external monitors be a split screen which I can use to have, = say, a video image up while I'm recording with Logic for a video project = or film.  Doing that and being able to record quiet = acoustic stuff is why I'm looking for two external monitors and having = the computer in another room instead of just using the macbook screen = and one external monitor.

I've = ordered a splitter box from Matrox which supposedly should work = according to their tech people.  I'll let you know.  If it = doesn't, I might look at one of the new = iMacs......

Thanks for all the = posts,

John
= --Apple-Mail-1--483381848-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 02:31:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E17A93BEC3; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=LP/CpxJrvKgozxLnuSwN8xUDsHmjKNHTBIRWNyaqGNXmyP6qG1lVn11sggW7HhLY; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:31:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-961559822==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ce5badf3df66654fe3061d4f6571bf0c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: <8rNnuC.A.U7.FKhiKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:31:33 +0000 (UTC) --============_-961559822==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" John, Which Mac? Any modern mac has a dual monitor capability, you need to go into the "Displays" control panel and select "Arrange Displays" de select 'mirror monitors" >"so the built-in jack for the external monitor is not sufficient for you?" > >The problem is that if you use two external monitors apart from the >screen on the macbook, the images on those two external monitors are >mirrors of themselves. This would be desirable for a classroom >presentation, business meeting etc., but what I am looking for is >the ability to have the two external monitors be a split screen >which I can use to have, say, a video image up while I'm recording >with Logic for a video project or film. Doing that and being able >to record quiet acoustic stuff is why I'm looking for two external >monitors and having the computer in another room instead of just >using the macbook screen and one external monitor. > >I've ordered a splitter box from Matrox which supposedly should work >according to their tech people. I'll let you know. If it doesn't, >I might look at one of the new iMacs...... > >Thanks for all the posts, > >John -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-961559822==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors
John,

 Which Mac?  Any modern mac has a dual monitor capability, you need to go into the "Displays" control panel and select "Arrange Displays"  de select 'mirror monitors"


"so the built-in jack for the external monitor is not sufficient for you?"

The problem is that if you use two external monitors apart from the screen on the macbook, the images on those two external monitors are mirrors of themselves.  This would be desirable for a classroom presentation, business meeting etc., but what I am looking for is the ability to have the two external monitors be a split screen which I can use to have, say, a video image up while I'm recording with Logic for a video project or film.  Doing that and being able to record quiet acoustic stuff is why I'm looking for two external monitors and having the computer in another room instead of just using the macbook screen and one external monitor.

I've ordered a splitter box from Matrox which supposedly should work according to their tech people.  I'll let you know.  If it doesn't, I might look at one of the new iMacs......

Thanks for all the posts,

John


--
...
http://www.zmix.net
--============_-961559822==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 05:27:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25C153BEC2; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1180 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:27:21 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--465569094 Message-Id: <800B4CD4-DA7F-4F38-B465-725ACE579740@blackhole-factory.de> From: Martin Slawig Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:07:34 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:27:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--465569094 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed hi everybody, it's my first post here, but i'm following LD for a while. Very inspiring discussions going on and it seems that the list works as a good community. We are using the matrox dualHead2Go for some of our performances and installations and it works really well. We use it with MacbookPro and MacMini. With the Macbook Pro it gives us three different!!! monitors: the one on the macbook and 2 externals which are one wide screen split to 2 monitors. We normally use the build in screen for control and the externals connected to 2 projectors. If you put them exactly side by side you get a wide screen 8:3. here is an example video: http://www.archive.org/details/ blackholefactorySanokSonglines and some photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackhole-factory/sets/ 72157606482288048/ Connected to a MacMini we get 2 different monitors we use for installations as wide screen or for performances with one as control screen, the other for projection. There is also the mtrox triplehead2go which gives you a 12:3 screen split to 3 monitors. Also runs good on MacbookPro. Hope this helps. best Martin **************************************** b l a c k h o l e - f a c t o r y Berliner Platz 1 D-38102 Braunschweig fon ++49.531.2876005 info@blackhole-factory.com http://www.blackhole-factory.com **************************************** Am 18.08.2009 um 02:10 schrieb john floridis: > "so the built-in jack for the external monitor is not sufficient > for you?" > > The problem is that if you use two external monitors apart from the > screen on the macbook, the images on those two external monitors > are mirrors of themselves. This would be desirable for a classroom > presentation, business meeting etc., but what I am looking for is > the ability to have the two external monitors be a split screen > which I can use to have, say, a video image up while I'm recording > with Logic for a video project or film. Doing that and being able > to record quiet acoustic stuff is why I'm looking for two external > monitors and having the computer in another room instead of just > using the macbook screen and one external monitor. > > I've ordered a splitter box from Matrox which supposedly should > work according to their tech people. I'll let you know. If it > doesn't, I might look at one of the new iMacs...... > > Thanks for all the posts, > > John --Apple-Mail-2--465569094 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi everybody,
it's my first post here, but i'm following LD for a = while. Very inspiring discussions going on and it seems that the list = works as a good community.

We are using the = matrox dualHead2Go for some of our performances and installations and it = works really well. We use it with MacbookPro and MacMini. With the = Macbook Pro it gives us three different!!! monitors: the one on the = macbook and 2 externals which are one wide screen split to 2 monitors. = We normally use the build in screen for control and the externals = connected to 2 projectors. If you put them exactly side by side you get = a wide screen 8:3.=A0
Connected to a MacMini we get 2 different monitors we = use for installations as wide screen or for performances with one as = control screen, the other for projection.
There is also the = mtrox triplehead2go which gives you a 12:3 screen split to 3 monitors. = Also runs good on MacbookPro.
Hope this = helps.

best
Martin

=
b l a = c k h o l e - f a c t o r y
Berliner Platz 1
D-38102 = Braunschweig
fon ++49.531.2876005
info@blackhole-factory.com<= /div>
****************************************
=

Am 18.08.2009 um 02:10 schrieb john = floridis:

"so the built-in jack for the external monitor is not = sufficient for you?"

The problem is that if you use = two external monitors apart from the screen on the macbook, the images = on those two external monitors are mirrors of themselves. =A0This would = be desirable for a classroom presentation, business meeting etc., but = what I am looking for is the ability to have the two external monitors = be a split screen which I can use to have, say, a video image up while = I'm recording with Logic for a video project or film. =A0Doing that = and=A0being able to record quiet acoustic stuff is why I'm = looking for two external monitors and having the computer in another = room instead of just using the macbook screen and one=A0external = monitor.

I've ordered a splitter box from = Matrox which supposedly should work according to their tech people. = =A0I'll let you know. =A0If it doesn't, I might look at one of the new = iMacs......

Thanks for all the = posts,

John

= --Apple-Mail-2--465569094-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 07:06:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F5A03BEC1; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 370 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:06:53 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 638882.13176.bm@omp209.mail.re3.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ZiyuuHDWzz2brhmf7m6oigWDe1PI9f7uMEyWiczuZ4ovRaCm1W2gPLrV1oS2Q1zRUtJkoU3YNF4dTIjuwEtJmRND1RHsbyWbC5DdNSzNzO1FOOKEIJq4ny5ydVMVybAVTBE3wMwRgfNlOWSWnLtf8b71Uso/ty1QY2XAI80p+vk= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: WBt4mSyswBDpxh822Hmhi17KXRjnw4GqCQ-- X-YMail-OSG: yEw2vUUVM1lGA64hEppje2UL_Fu4wjS2IDNk7diTd4Um8YqKlyNjQv8MIOlnYFNdsM102w0uoaTxyCpTFWt6Mx5dwsnAo5qLPP5e1ZxWL6VkBGIMxTj7dW8ZyNqNU0q1RKMK3DMnRa9Qi4clYT3BRcAJ_8g9roiHQZ5hbKwDY5EG8QZzQn2XbFVthqTFnF8LEbITDMr4jjC6AnCicjcP2cI.69cMLmhnMXvA5iJM4JapOlQdq6AcTzWyRGor3RKhyrZ30qsLAK1spzHlcr0Oz8ppescS7S_d6lJgViJOVGLpVFAmCzQ9jw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00f401ca1fd1$726f1970$0d92a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: Subject: new software looper: CYCLER Looping Software Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:59:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F1_01CA1FE2.3506F9C0"; type="text/plain" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:06:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01CA1FE2.3506F9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I just saw this on harmony-central. I don't thnk it has been submitted on this list yet. Ben After four years of intensive development and extensive real-world gig beta testing, Devine Machine is proud to announce his revolutionary looper: Cycler. Cycler is a totally new approach to looping on computers, designed to simplify creating music, with or without your screen! Cycler is a radical departure from hardware emulation software and contains powerful and truly unique functions, such as multiple loop length capabilities, a comprehensive battery of effects and infinite undos for each of the 16 loopers, among many other truly unique features. It aims to ease and simplify the relationship between musician and computer. A commented video demonstrating Cycler in a live gig can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPAwENpTXQ Release date is set for early 2010, price is not yet fixed. Versions for all platforms will be included with purchase. An extensive feature list will be communicated by October 2009. For more information, visit their web site at http://www.devine-machine.com/. ------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01CA1FE2.3506F9C0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="mag-glass_10x10.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Location: http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif R0lGODlhCgAKAKIHAECLQOfw57/Yv4CygABkAKDFoP///////yH5BAEAAAcALAAAAAAKAAoAAAMm eAI0clCREAp4EARjShnR1HlENHhoCS1pESkDQRTN+8qgDeH6TiQAOw== ------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01CA1FE2.3506F9C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 07:12:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01B4D3BEC5; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hPluI50DRmSWuEYLN+oLGoRLgNMUtxLbS0tFlj5mVhs=; b=LIP0EomuTVGa9ykqBOWaHNeTq+3IqUpFWy/mcazIXyx/owZMgQ8ySJ6ie1vGIAJH+D iJQdws5usl74yztqidSz2bZPWsCe3jUWAei51VQ61DsdJT3i6PqG9gyxEDkxIr7H7qcv snUFnL6qglc3C1/6ejj3P2kiIF03/mYDIy9fE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aSMARS5HfNOX+JSRQUCIJnB5cXU59I0MQTuBK2dJhwCNlbVpTaTnN++2c5QGwSMbPg F9mkdpHHiOXpzwy3yWcIPcWEwVq13I2crrIfg/+FmFnwwQ1higHCiUEDPvEqeMBnOJEg Eyt2LKY7yhDpERgT2KrZ8yxu8KIOpnHTeM8Ug= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00f401ca1fd1$726f1970$0d92a8c0@voo.intra> References: <00f401ca1fd1$726f1970$0d92a8c0@voo.intra> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:11:54 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908180011w30a95ce0s9d065669ed015df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new software looper: CYCLER Looping Software From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99a93b353fd0471653b9b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:11:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99a93b353fd0471653b9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looks nice. Pity the software is proprietary though. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: > Hello, > > I just saw this on harmony-central. I don't thnk it has been submitted on > this list yet. > > Ben > > After four years of intensive development and extensive real-world gig beta > testing, Devine Machine is proud to announce his revolutionary looper: > Cycler. > > Cycler is a totally new approach to looping on computers, designed to > simplify creating music, with or without your screen! > > Cycler is a radical departure from hardware emulation software and contains > powerful and truly unique functions, such as multiple loop length > capabilities, a comprehensive battery of effects and infinite undos for each > of the 16 loopers, among many other truly unique features. > > It aims to ease and simplify the relationship between musician and > computer. > > A commented video demonstrating Cycler in a live gig can be found here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPAwENpTXQ > > Release date is set for early 2010, price is not yet fixed. Versions for > all platforms will be included with purchase. An extensive feature list will > be communicated by October 2009. > > > > For more information, visit their web site at > http://www.devine-machine.com/. > --0016e6d99a93b353fd0471653b9b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks nice. Pity the software is proprietary though.




On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Ruelle Benoit= <benoitruell= e@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hello,

I just saw this on harmony-central. I don't thnk it has been submitted = on this list yet.

Ben

After four years of intensive development and extensive real-world gig beta= testing, Devine Machine is proud to announce his revolutionary looper: Cyc= ler.

Cycler is a totally new approach to looping on computers, designed to simpl= ify creating music, with or without your screen!

Cycler is a radical departure from hardware emulation software and contains= powerful and truly unique functions, such as multiple loop length capabili= ties, a comprehensive battery of effects and infinite undos for each of the= 16 loopers, among many other truly unique features.

It aims to ease and simplify the relationship between musician and computer= .

A commented video demonstrating Cycler in a live gig can be found here: htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6iPAwENpTXQ

Release date is set for early 2010, price is not yet fixed. Versions for al= l platforms will be included with purchase. An extensive feature list will = be communicated by October 2009.



For more information, visit their web site at http://www.devine-machine.com/.

--0016e6d99a93b353fd0471653b9b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 07:56:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C21D3BEC5; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:56:08 -0600 References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:56:15 +0000 (UTC) "Any modern mac has a dual monitor capability, you need to go into the "Displays" control panel and select "Arrange Displays" de select 'mirror monitors"- Thanks Charles, but that doesn't cut it when you're using two separate monitors with a simple splitter....they both mirror themselves regardless.... Soooo..... Yes, Martin that matrox dualHead2Go is exactly what I ordered, so hopefully, all will be good soon, Thanks again, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 11:47:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1BC63BECC; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=FITzMpWCIqGGcALD3XSWYCpmvPYNJKarAGSC2NPVARCGDs5/ywqOtzM9kLkIcIDM; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:46:59 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: home recording/macbook/fan noise/external monitors Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec791049985825acaa02e3a5feb86edc306d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: <55RYqC.A.xqE.STpiKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:47:30 +0000 (UTC) I didn't realize that you were interested in using three monitors with the Mac. The OS itself will only support two. Good luck with the splitter and report back to us about how if works out! >"Any modern mac has a dual monitor capability, you need to go into >the "Displays" control panel and select "Arrange Displays" de >select 'mirror monitors"- Thanks Charles, but that doesn't cut it >when you're using two separate monitors with a simple >splitter....they both mirror themselves regardless.... > >Soooo..... > >Yes, Martin that matrox dualHead2Go is exactly what I ordered, so >hopefully, all will be good soon, > >Thanks again, > >John -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 11:59:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C890E3BECD; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_87aa0386-1a0c-4f3d-8002-b9d6f8b32218_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: New Owen Pallett / Final Fantasy Recordings Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:59:34 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2009 11:59:34.0722 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A63C220:01CA1FFB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:59:35 +0000 (UTC) --_87aa0386-1a0c-4f3d-8002-b9d6f8b32218_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just doing the rounds of my fav blogs and i came across a wonderful r= ecording of an Owen Pallett show done in the driving rain=2Che is playing a= new track of his upcoming "Heartland" album. =20 theres a link to some live versions of upcoming songs...I would start with = the beautiful "The Great Elsewhere" =20 http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3D7E1DB41088AF684C&search_query=3Df= inal+fantasy+lewis+takes+off+his+shirt =20 I know that Owen has been on list before and I just wanted to tune you all = into this wonderful work and also=2C If Mr Pallett is here=2C wish him all = the best on the success of his wonderful new works=2C I for one am truly ex= cited at the thought of getting my ears around the final product. =20 Phill Wilson MyOneManBand _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years=97enjoy free winks and em= oticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_87aa0386-1a0c-4f3d-8002-b9d6f8b32218_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just doing the rounds of my fav blogs and i came across a wonderful r= ecording of an Owen Pallett show done in the driving rain=2Che is playing a= new track of his upcoming "Heartland" album.
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I know that Owen has been on list before and I just wanted to tune you all = into this wonderful work and also=2C If Mr Pallett is here=2C wish him all = the best on the success of his wonderful new works=2C I for one am truly ex= cited at the thought of getting my ears around the final product.
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MyOneManBand

Internet Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotmail. = Download Internet Explorer 8 = --_87aa0386-1a0c-4f3d-8002-b9d6f8b32218_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 13:24:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFB1E3BED6; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090818082420.O6ZED.86437.root@ispmxfep16-z01> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 6:24:20 -0700 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: More Kaiser MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: 67.141.31.42 X-Auth-IP: 67.141.31.42 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KznxNLsZlQUA:10 a=X26O6BbSAAAA:8 a=ZiiB517Z7IlzRmbkEGMA:9 a=smEnzHDU14WKQadz4PpdrRnkiOUA:4 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:24:22 +0000 (UTC) If anyone is interested, here's a link to an mp3 of "HK's Gifts For Friends"..A collection of unreleased stuff Mr Kaiser's sent off to various friends. It includes two Frippertronic style pieces "Commence Pussyfooting" and "Way Too Much Pussyfooting" ( Rather mysterious that he did them..He's not that big a fan of RF.) Here 'tis: http://nevergetoutoftheboat.blogspot.com/2008/01/henry-kaiser_23.html Cheers! Doug H From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 14:32:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EC883BED8; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 340 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:32:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OiMVNUU1f4KOhqiuI540bx8Mhq3N1I+Yt9CW6NNa9ec=; b=VGbOZyIoMYWeFP0nkOsQIuWrRbZQkxsZZrfq0Y9C3lokg3V5hZDrx7nN+MTJTeezZV fQ45Mz9HT5FTwCqlbYlFO0aH49TiktaRMNVnalGIK7QVG08/hPRWHETZPf3FN69r3bUo YxWEoVTmNGGJL4FL3xICmHCw+dov/Oa5Pwol8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a51yGHyUpNyVJ35pUciGrK8glz9HjBVlB2OkopwLGJ9JqRKOEOn/GyM97PNpTp79H4 Ix5YXft6QRuwHCMe3gLsVfeyWA1PCkniDqlVOqFERH43i0QivoCmNcBretohEsPL+poz u9QR3yys2ctHC7cnUnM879a0ETeqhw8QySHFk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:27:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0908180727y5f7fc289icef7118c2a75d306@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Owen Pallett / Final Fantasy Recordings From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c18eac7d82804716b5005 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:32:59 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c18eac7d82804716b5005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great video! Thanks for posting that... On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:59 AM, phillip wilson wrote: > I was just doing the rounds of my fav blogs and i came across a wonderful > recording of an Owen Pallett show done in the driving rain,he is playing a > new track of his upcoming "Heartland" album. > > theres a link to some live versions of upcoming songs...I would start with > the beautiful "The Great Elsewhere" > > > http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7E1DB41088AF684C&search_query=final+fantasy+lewis+takes+off+his+shirt > > I know that Owen has been on list before and I just wanted to tune you all > into this wonderful work and also, If Mr Pallett is here, wish him all the > best on the success of his wonderful new works, I for one am truly excited > at the thought of getting my ears around the final product. > > Phill Wilson > MyOneManBand > > ------------------------------ > Internet Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotmail. Download Internet Explorer > 8 > -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --0015174c18eac7d82804716b5005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great video! Thanks for posting that...

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:59 AM, phillip wilson = <phillwilso= n@hotmail.com> wrote:
I was just doing the rounds of my fav blogs and i came across a wonder= ful recording of an Owen Pallett show done in the driving rain,he is playin= g a new track of his upcoming "Heartland" album.
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theres= a link to some live versions of upcoming songs...I would start with the be= autiful=A0 "The Great Elsewhere"
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http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3D7E1DB41088AF684C&search_= query=3Dfinal+fantasy+lewis+takes+off+his+shirt
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I know that Owen has been on list before and I just wanted to tune y= ou all into this wonderful work and also, If Mr Pallett is here, wish him a= ll the best on the success of his wonderful new works, I for one am truly e= xcited at the thought of getting my ears around the final product.
=A0
Phill Wilson
MyOneManBand

Internet Explorer 8 - accelerate your Hotmail. Download Internet Explor= er 8



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--0015174c18eac7d82804716b5005-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 16:40:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 065C33BEDA; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250613635; bh=iwB1J/c7cYslQOv7NAc5wj8FcNsfKG/og/9Am4rvBB8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kGwHcX0AsHbKPEVo1vWvAxzhoe7FkHwlWKkxpz3KZOVZR0tUiImG8xt23sTAUX2pSE1anbERfz2WCwHflCT/Vy+3f4J4yUCDgVMYP1BVmR8X4wEUi/qZPttJS2RFaspFdDnbVKA/nKcxSzb0FKvdA4D/gdEi6Uc9+r7imGJ+Uj8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=o+F3FP7RAv/S83otoWE3wGnCxXGjS9HUgTSYsXvaY3EFfU4c8wuaGPh1PsmjNMtC9CFhn2lNOkBH0KTa1evIwJ3FcSFA20C0G8bXnjrGDhmF0E7RrPeMWC0LVnxppAYk6QNg/Bhb+rTrXpX4wBqWCG2r8zhZXjYSbZTc9+HIqCk=; Message-ID: <217192.49496.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KSFDS.IVM1kev4W8HvTjfZkXI1iPUEn4ZzlABnvytWJUSgoUbKdBK0HCA0oFRPMuQDNb0wbdhRxCkqGljp3GUbfY_UNy1UKcDj1COSGlZ3njqjJL3Kf59YMlf0u6Bo7_ICm91WuZnpNXeFN.iWFHkzP5GPFKTcJ6w4HmR9PxgQyw7uwYzbKV2DQ4iYHZHj5WnirtoImCTvfQ1FaMgvLNWD9M9guOvhvyLBnQnQfQGi9fgki1i__jvqvCKh6LEI81WVqJQeuw0n4V1Wpyj1LneyM9h5euqBZDbtutfRqgAmzYx9gRo..FwhxcvjF3KDYWMr.RSZAKb7hSQenbGSeWXAb3b1IlNL95P6vZMSXKPywF3xxNzzGH89o4cehcORnqGmOqZw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: New Online Magazine - Sound is Art To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1015153546-1250613635=:49496" Resent-Message-ID: <-nJXED.A.uFH.EmtiKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) --0-1015153546-1250613635=:49496 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please take a look around, I aim to keep it lively as it develops! http://margaretnoble.net/blog/ --0-1015153546-1250613635=:49496 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Please take a look around, I aim to keep it lively as it develops!


http://margaretnoble.net/blog/
 

--0-1015153546-1250613635=:49496-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 16:43:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F25953BED9; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OsGa9Noz8u4TZyK8fCOZcf67azx+M5r6AwbdkOLKbiM=; b=kaTxtjeQDYcJEiMoCmHZg0Gg3mHv3yT2Bx91SM/HGd2L14/aRE3ig+g5Imb+MAgTCk e0Hni8xvK0MCINaN5U/TmXlrwrvUcJ56ydQ3f+vVciwfUS1K9XVNfVZ5aRDfG/1RLWkT 698V6Oi7zarymr2ZnWqMZKsveONd1LV6D23vA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f5+onMFwDhqFRhIl4ylNQT5R//cAocdzQNeQzpq0W+dM1YBkRJma3Ivw2ehxnv6Kx/ 4nQ7+zD02F/vjV0obdZj37UKTY+FktBPGubKPzuqy3Wg/sLqDCwC6jpbfsb9tvTHYKso L8A215bCloO+VyM/z/a28QvmJJrs/6xJlKLeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <217192.49496.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <217192.49496.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:43:24 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908180943l3224349avdcd2f2d3cce73003@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Online Magazine - Sound is Art From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:43:24 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Please take a look around, I aim to keep it lively as it develops! > > http://margaretnoble.net/blog/ > Great! I like this 'zine just from the very first glance. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 16:52:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 442D33BED9; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:52:42 -0500 Subject: RE: new software looper: CYCLER Looping Software Thread-Topic: new software looper: CYCLER Looping Software Thread-Index: AcogGXcL8Ztj/+RGQmKvkA8ie5ZfmAACE22g Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFEA81A341@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <00f401ca1fd1$726f1970$0d92a8c0@voo.intra> In-Reply-To: <00f401ca1fd1$726f1970$0d92a8c0@voo.intra> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:52:47 +0000 (UTC) It's hard to know exactly what it does, they're being coy about the details. For me the most interesting thing about the video was "Groove Overdrive" rather than the looping, which was fairly basic. Groove Overdrive appears to be a different plugin, probably providing the master sync for the loopers. It looked like they had two instances of Cycler, one for each player, sync'd to the same master clock. Cycler appears to be a multitrack looper with sync, and the design bias is more toward "mixing" loops after recording. They had an interesting "sync delay" they applied to one of the loops. I didn't see anything in the video that you couldn't do with Ableton Live. >From their chirpy marketing prose: > Cycler is a radical departure from hardware emulation software Okay...so is Ableton. > and contains powerful and truly unique functions, such as multiple > loop length capabilities Try again... > a comprehensive battery of effects and again... > and infinite undos for each of the 16 loopers Now we're getting somewhere. Infinite undo is certainly unusual though not exactly "truly unique". =20 I'm betting it looks like a simplified Ableton with syncd effects,=20 loop undo and maybe first loop capability. Having all that in a single program with an easy to use UI would indeed be unique. You can probably accomplish the same thing combining plugins in a modular host, but it's easier to understand when there is a tailored UI surrounding it. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 17:09:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 973FF3BEE4; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:09:31 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090818170931.208940@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Y2K9 Loop festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+K1Kwn5tCKXPkORJv1ABmQxKA6OzkeXTsNGuNjpC jr5Q1hFiAPqP6FPJok5c3jsK527frKRyDobg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: BJXrLvcwa0A7J8h0jjAzT10/Njh6dM76 X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Absolutely brilliant, Luis :-) Great musicality, great mood. thanks Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 17:53:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A5573BEE2; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 436 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:53:13 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=q03LXmLS2pNDMgECsBNUEUQkNLt3LgsPsKrCFHxgmtw=; b=X30T0e213mU+LoUOYK4hz9qSF3ePSWdJKOK2utszfFDHu7bMCUxOQGEVDxckcCtNjI uChKI4o1O3hEu6uykrg22iqCUi7C4XMhOjysUvSklp5zakMAPCLPbcPGtBnMIGPN2KfJ rnOjsXcCctv8QwgFo/92uMzbL8JTqR7RPEyH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=PSnFLYNiwpdvgl8SXt6hxR2gQ7svD/0/p+wRSCqT+cmrbSoUS7frCbI9hKhCISgON2 k2fJiws0sRnko8Wv7BDzZn/qSHBh6hDf6aHGedsZU09dza4lKvku/bjCkSKD/BfZbena HqCDiu5LQ2aXhVsoTwRm7V6QlNoDkQW2TeDbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com From: Tom Ritchford Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:45:36 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5d2e6050904ce8f8 Message-ID: <26ba8d120908181045u5bd7f266y6d206ad7825fe02@mail.gmail.com> Subject: report on the Live 8 looper. To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce026102e133004716e172e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce026102e133004716e172e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warren Sirota and I made our first use of the Live 8 looper within an improvisational context and I have to say that I was very impressed. I've been having some trouble with live (that I'll extract into another post) but it seems to work better for free-form jamming. There was an initial glitch the first time I tried to insert a looper into the signal stream - I did it by selecting the two bar looper and double-clicking on it. Immediately, all the other tracks jumped out of record mode. I didn't try this again but the manual seems to say that double-clicking and drag-and-drop (which is what I did thereafter) should have the same effect... and says nothing about dropping out of record. I'll I still don't full understand the looper - in particular, how to completely clear one seems to take far too many keystrokes - but I'm sold on it in the context of Live. Once I got into a working mode with it, it worked flawlessly for synched loops. The integrated "one button looping" worked really well - I was using the Nano but I'm hoping my impending Rocktron Midi Mate will do just as well. And I can just drop a new instance of the looper onto another track. It has reverse, it has feedback, it has variable speed, what else do you want? Everything else can be done with some plug-in for Live. I have tried several other software loopers and many of them have their advantages but if you are using Live 8 there is no reason to use any other looper because it's free, it's right there, and it works really well. -- /t --000e0ce026102e133004716e172e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren Sirota and I made our first use of the Live 8 looper within an impro= visational context and I have to say that I was very impressed.

I= 9;ve been having some trouble with live (that I'll extract into another= post) but it seems to work better for free-form jamming.

There was an initial glitch the first time I tried to insert a looper i= nto the signal stream - I did it by selecting the two bar looper and double= -clicking on it.=C2=A0 Immediately, all the other tracks jumped out of reco= rd mode.

I didn't try this again but the manual seems to say that double-cli= cking and drag-and-drop (which is what I did thereafter) should have the sa= me effect... and says nothing about dropping out of record.=C2=A0 I'll =


I still don't full understand the looper - in particular, how t= o completely clear one seems to take far too many keystrokes - but I'm = sold on it in the context of Live.=C2=A0

Once I got into a working = mode with it, it worked flawlessly for synched loops.=C2=A0 The integrated = "one button looping" worked really well - I was using the Nano bu= t I'm hoping my impending Rocktron Midi Mate will do just as well.=C2= =A0 And I can just drop a new instance of the looper onto another track.
It has reverse, it has feedback, it has variable speed, what else do yo= u want?=C2=A0 Everything else can be done with some plug-in for Live.

I have tried several other software loopers and many of them have the= ir advantages but if you are using Live 8 there is no reason to use any oth= er looper because it's free, it's right there, and it works really = well.

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--000e0ce026102e133004716e172e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 19:37:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93D123BEDE; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:37:14 UTC Message-ID: From: "BC" To: References: <770506.11796.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <20090818170931.208940@gmx.net> Subject: Anybody order the preproduction Boomerang 3? Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:29:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Has anybody ordered the preproduction 'rang 3? Any problems communicating with the company? I put myself on the waiting list a few weeks ago, notwithstanding a concern that it was taking them several days to answer any e-mail I sent them, except for 1. I sent my last e-mail 6 days ago with no reply as of yet. I can't help but think, at this point that if it's so hard to get an answer when I want to give them my money, how hard will it be if I have a question or problem? In the 'Rang 2 days, they would reply quickly, which gave me some peace-of-mind about the company. Anybody have any experience with this? I do think it's appropriate for me to be concerned. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 19:47:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0DE63BEE8; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <62D40B6E-DD01-4436-BCBA-52D5CBAC6F6C@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--412806921 From: Rev Fever Subject: OT: "Will" and Les Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:46:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:47:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--412806921 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Stumbled across this nice pic. It is actor / musician Bill Mumy, who played "Will" on the late, great 60's USA TV show "Lost In Space", standing together with the late, great Les Paul. http://www.billmumy.com/mumy/galleries/music/friends/BMLespaul.jpg (Bill has been playing guitar and singing he was about 6 or 7 years old. He's in his 50's now.) Enjoy! Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ PS- I was a *huge* fan of "LIS" when I was a kid! The robot ruled! "Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!" :-) --Apple-Mail-10--412806921 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Stumbled across this nice pic. It is actor / musician Bill Mumy, who played "Will" on the late, great  60's USA TV show "Lost In Space", standing together with the late, great Les Paul. 

(Bill has been playing guitar and singing he was about 6 or 7 years old. He's in his 50's now.)

Enjoy!
Cheers,
Rev Fever

PS- I was a *huge* fan of "LIS" when I was a kid!  The robot ruled!   "Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!"  :-)

--Apple-Mail-10--412806921-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 20:26:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C710F3BEEA; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xh1cXnvGkoH+vD5nKyVME5IptLOwY3u5GWorH1XrTmg=; b=OlHzKHXDYXN1/GHUahbCmSy5fhUEjX7qNh5Drl7qyuzulmuqfsKziUZhZa1cZVUShL gkZVN0FWPbBNmuO7JNfiUWTaLYCKMjHxLh9Cxz8VCU65iVDQXbL7OjKJb1dsJmWLNZjN +RFMoI2YSHWgQzU8c0t+LFoXRQO5EBXX/CO7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TICP/cwp8WeYSgjhbHSC4dervcQSciNq48Fl4HzT2izGsmamuQaJ4XYUJbHL+A9CDS tZ0vUlbI6SawSl7ohAPX9NTvEYIadDU7aiHyOk0yFjeHRTyi+G3egv6fqgXimdiKYg+R wssOJk87SfG7Mg/6yyNgbkzgbbzjKmT5Vo1lE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120908181045u5bd7f266y6d206ad7825fe02@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120908181045u5bd7f266y6d206ad7825fe02@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:26:49 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908181326n7312383ct2f5d7e6cdc1e480d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: report on the Live 8 looper. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:26:50 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > It has reverse, it has feedback, it has variable speed, what else do you > want?=C2=A0 Everything else can be done with some plug-in for Live. I think the best thing with Live 8's Looper is that it has the whole shebang of Live follow tempo as you snag your first loop. This has always been the point where Live used to fail when using MIDI Clock through IAC Bus or MIDI Yoke. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 18 22:27:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 103613BEE7; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1250634460; bh=WC1GoAh/d6RX8PQz1nfNgCLzfTl2kKTJXia/gsfzaC8=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=FqdpI0szjtj3C43sYrA2TDjdBLTBo24Lpz7HVza5/hA9+R+79AjkbtEwrKp905E/6 jK5vYWIWJ6pgm+bMVhL6zsTob0Lsv27xN7gy6zgW834uUSyrOpYJVn3PMjS9akemFS w5YdRxaEoGsO4xSykaYAyGg7q3p1gZsHhMA/eljw= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Luis Angulo vocal loop video live at the Antwerp Live Looping festival Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:27:33 +0200 Message-ID: <000201ca2053$150209f0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcogJqrOSEGtBv33TSmUhdCF6mcokQAK3fiw In-Reply-To: <20090818170931.208940@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:27:41 +0000 (UTC) > Absolutely brilliant, Luis :-) I agree. You know, and I remember that very well, while we were building up the stage, Luis asked me if I had a microphone, something like a Shure SM58 because he could maybe use a mic during the his performance..but he wasn't sure about it. I said "Yes, shure" ;) This is the thruth, that's how the conversation went. And based on the reactions of the public after the show and the other artists, I think Luis was one of the highlights of the festival. --- Sjaak Overgaauw http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 01:55:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F23263BEF1; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0ydHHBCRnpkVmFmpu+0BsT88bMBXJIR2Q+nk7padLq8=; b=F5LuEMhZZ/3eqFoo27l+AjiQdHxc6X2fMIpY5Nl7sEWtNRpRAVvo5sSIbUvljzaCN1 C7RNKCrgaeN5Bw8zNF/jmXPsH2Kklst6GZ5ClCebMxYn7mX2UkLZD6UMCIJFjKR5op6P KRVy0azt1T02oFkmv93kkusZrXkSQsALe7Mos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ioBv8S64VF90uOmVWtC/MOQagbfLkHUtVmQHjkfLka1Bnww5A2vfNFYgh0+syYFLTp o1azgnMZFF+f+C79Ok8eD4XhvhCl5A/TmGQam367X26H33J4XDwaymtGfggrEt51E63w eRfSD2X4zPhr1s2NtvnCAxIp5AB2L9x9zzRK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908180943l3224349avdcd2f2d3cce73003@mail.gmail.com> References: <217192.49496.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0908180943l3224349avdcd2f2d3cce73003@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:55:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Online Magazine - Sound is Art From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Tasty! 2009/8/18, Per Boysen : > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM, margaret > noble wrote: >> Please take a look around, I aim to keep it lively as it develops! >> >> http://margaretnoble.net/blog/ >> > > Great! I like this 'zine just from the very first glance. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 02:25:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D32653BEF4; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cuk32NbPcZbMx8CDC6e9Z9LHiUhNAru64SMXF0FDmE4=; b=op2vUpUSYv66DgLgxtmVUksxwTFuSmynHseyKwdROKWzncLaPkMofOR1KmSY5K1WBa goZg1MEvYj8eBde6k/cqZpA15/6xs2haAYLbpubfVI5EGYgNXSLV0+X1pBqe9AsIjAYZ Wvbyc/jpKOKXFg+qJvFjbkNBFGKQ2A37YaKek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=C00gi0nbzgc2beUsvG9J6yqc8j8yLE/8jwOk1gaguHBOOzPEIrJmkQtv+Raoe1C4zu wWNbZguwW5KxLLKcBxaDFQV4KbCVjxgJ2m1Otd3pnkqM19AKw+wkWbYMMO5YN09J3U9W OziNW487UlsaJkVIOGGumTVHyYWcZ54u+xUaM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:25:52 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908181925i18fd687cne4812df4eaafe164@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Using the IK Multimedia StealthPedal to replace a Behringer FCB1010 as a midi controller From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0BblNC.A.b8E.xK2iKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:25:53 +0000 (UTC) I did a quick write up here: http://simart.googlepages.com/StealthPedal.html Basically the Stealth pedal gives you a maximum of 6 midi controllers: 2 expression pedals, 3 switches and a small knob on the side of the pedal. The StealthPedal is smaller, lighter, connects directly via USB and is easier to configure than the Behringer. But, it's more expensive, less flexible and the expression pedals on the Behringer have a nicer feel. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From account-update@amazon.com Wed Aug 19 02:40:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1366 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:40:24 UTC Received: from hercules.bbnp.com (hercules.bbnp.com [69.26.143.9]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F3F3BEEE; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User [195.34.138.199] by hercules.bbnp.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-9.23) id AF040318; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:10:12 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Amazon.com" Subject: Amazon.com: Please validate your account Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:13:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <200908182210421.SM01636@User> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Amazon
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 09:04:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DB3B3BEF3; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KUYEUeaz2qCwySCo1P/JmX85j/pZxTT/DjoyWlAm9Jo=; b=EOqpeOvCG/pGfnO/gukgr8nZ+XWw/Cbj4sejCIaOuo5DOhdm/9KyiBnEsGUM2fJ7oO rkWkkqxrKcyxiT58DBJdi+ehFZrLITwjdL9TnS1D99jiGwj+4QWFaV9DoWdU7OzjRubd VjCnyLUx2WDysfk/YSfUTYSNBt9ANmXYYUAaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oDM8TT/OXZ/+V4W5gcV4bYVrlnzhWk+dWKzNnFjyG5ivKP0NNAkfvzwZl3lA2ISV6n O9gc2FQxIYeU18lR4fPfK45yh8QUwju+2LqBYNuiSBAIKkbo4O3f3ysOTE2Y00ulr933 QuP9Yasf9L7/h2uXYvZW2kYet0wlfv1h/6zkQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0908181925i18fd687cne4812df4eaafe164@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0908181925i18fd687cne4812df4eaafe164@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:04:04 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908190204l529178d4xc49e170967f1bcd5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Using the IK Multimedia StealthPedal to replace a Behringer FCB1010 as a midi controller From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Looks like a nice setup! Is it possible to "daisy-chain" many Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitches? I would like four or six for instant access to scale intervals. Six would give you the option of playing the looper with twelve tone scale, something I have always been missing with the Behringer pedal that is hard-wired with only ten buttons. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Art Simon wrote: > I did a quick write up here: > http://simart.googlepages.com/StealthPedal.html > > Basically the Stealth pedal gives you a maximum of 6 midi controllers: > 2 expression pedals, 3 switches and a small knob on the side of the > pedal. The StealthPedal is smaller, lighter, connects directly via USB > and is easier to configure than the Behringer. But, it's more > expensive, less flexible and the expression pedals on the Behringer > have a =C2=A0nicer feel. > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 10:23:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E94AF3BEFA; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A8BD2A9.3090803@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:23:37 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Just to put this whole looping thing in perspective Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6A-jX.A.C-C.sK9iKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Go to this site. http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/ Then click on the ZOOM button and keep hitting it and see where it takes you. It puts 'us' in a some perspective. Loop on , brothers and sisters! \ There is some mysterious reason why we do this inexplicable thing we do. I'm not sure what it is, but it keeps making sense to me. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 10:24:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2312B3BF01; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_83becbef-10de-46be-9c2b-00505f6e0adc_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: OT FS Looper MicroKorg FX etc Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:24:25 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2009 10:24:25.0712 (UTC) FILETIME=[39F7B700:01CA20B7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:24:27 +0000 (UTC) --_83becbef-10de-46be-9c2b-00505f6e0adc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Time for a clearout here in the UK =2C =20 Im gear nuts so I keep buying more and more kit=2C its time for a thin out!= ! =20 all can be seen working in Beverley east yorkshire or i can youtube any ans= wers needed. =20 MicroKorg.......You Know what this does surely!!! fantasic modelling synth= =2C this one comes in=20 gigged but good condition=2C I have had to replace the power supply also ha= s a differant mic to the webcam quality one that it came with it !!! =A3250 seems about right according to ebay!! =20 FX....... =20 Boss Loopstation RC-20 an awesome loop pedal with tons of time and unlimete= d overdubs=2C also with 16 slots to pre record and jam to. =A3140 =20 Alesis ModFx Metavox Vocorder - this is an awesome piece of kit=2C 8 band h= igh quality vocorder=2C can be used with guitar=2C dj kit or any input sign= al or even just with itself =A345 http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Alesis/Met= avox/10/1 =20 =20 Alesis ModFx Smashup Compressor - quality compressor=2C very "new edge" do= es some funky stuff like pumping that even the boss ones dont do...also lin= ks directly to the other alesis units. =A345 =20 Alesis ModFx Amplition Temolo - Beat synced and rythmic trem Fx plus extra = gates and pans =A345 =20 =20 Zoom 707 good beginers pedal for years..or one for taking on th road when y= ou need to scale the equipment down. =A340 =20 Zoom 2120 - older then the 707 but with some crazy extras such as mulitipar= t looper built in...=A340 =20 =20 =20 Guitars----- Wesley Telecaster in Sparkly Blue - better then a squire cheap entry level = guitar...really nice neck would make a good learner or project guitar. =A3100 Tanglewood Flying V - this is a genuine retro guitar from the early 80s its= peppermint white and plays beautifully=2C its a nightmare ot sit down with= but stood up you look like the man!! =A3120 =20 =20 I am also on the lookout for the following Korg ELectribe=2C Samplers=2C Bo= ss RC-2 =2C Boss Gigadelay DD20 =2C Digitech Timebender. if you have any of= them for sale or swap get in touch. =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years=97enjoy free winks and em= oticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_83becbef-10de-46be-9c2b-00505f6e0adc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Time for a clearout here in the UK =2C
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D= ownload Internet Explorer 8 = --_83becbef-10de-46be-9c2b-00505f6e0adc_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 11:29:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609833BF05; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gkoLCyghiLFIV0DSL275OiP0lsWUUUKsGM4pKhXKMRk=; b=SGhlWDHvazr6hr150r8FrVjBTbtQ0DbQC0pNvPQahd398RGKVH7e/EHEVqyzNV5e2g ai/R0Llb2xnebZ9V6pkCk+SSgzqJuQl/yWewewDQ+XwNZWAUvrJR/+Kv8Y/mp4AlI2o/ YXIcU6KQ8SpF/TLjbd2KndR3EpDzKFMswlLaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=diyDgdJIrhtE0bAv246NP2FFL0hjbx2w9+HOqViflfOYrfae8j7frlkcoiMo2dH6th ofaBhdcQ0PBp57EWrfVgUTjIiUH75i+doBg+dbxVbU9/Oj2JBqlcg+Ell/O4nGKeTdLl Ub4y6LuHKp+IAGQh2QWm5BOhpBBR/2hix7V50= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A8BD2A9.3090803@cruzio.com> References: <4A8BD2A9.3090803@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:29:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8b34f9e2e00b931f Message-ID: <101191640908190429t492c79f9h8ca1c34d8ff5d664@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Just to put this whole looping thing in perspective From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:29:47 +0000 (UTC) 14 billion light-years from the sun - boy, that neighborhood sure has changed since I grew up there! On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Go to this site. > > http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/ > -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 11:29:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C1733BF0B; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:29:47 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0908181925i18fd687cne4812df4eaafe164@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090819112947.47370@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <588ce11d0908181925i18fd687cne4812df4eaafe164@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Using the IK Multimedia StealthPedal to replace a Behringer FCB1010 as a midi controller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18B/alLRqQBBXzStPY3Zc2qsVIu4VB9TfxfKSSEaT 08V638uyD1SiuxcvRqv3K3ssx/aBzf/g/HHw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: fKbBDcl1a2Aod80tzHUyFX46OWhhakf5 X-FuHaFi: 0.7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi Art that's some really nice option there. Thanks. http://www.ikmultimedia.com/stealthpedal/moreinfo/moreinfo1.php I think this is a very good option for people who want to travel with a smaller pedal setup. I could imagine i.e. a Midi Moose along with this pedal as a small setup. Or you can pick any of the midi footpedals that don't feature expression pedals to combine it: http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?gf=midi_footswitches&sw=midi+foot In addition, the flexibility is neat: 1-2 expression pedal, 2 optional switches. I wonder if the symetric outs are good option for i.e. monitoring? best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 12:05:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 078983BF12; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GhhMP6z+qwSh5+TE4fbJ2J/Igk1ZvhJ76fYqktg7vFWXOjQGUR4W/AvLvGGQQMJ+wO8I7S/FL3K5wiGJhb2PVsgYlPy9f4SyzWZVIgWntiaQOrxpggunav7tKSZBS3OTrJty6DrEEvrtufDQu24bynBU5cugnJIIZIVFKuUQf50= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: gxdTJuoVM1kzC2FxiKMDQYFA7c5zC0Xb9H8X.zNBJUE7seH724ZjvrcxIfRp9Qb850rWdwwXUv64HndSC.hhFlQUonvFBjjWmDOPH.RKmI0Ajfyq.TkB1r7og9.tQemJmEskQE2T4CEuMxjqFyld9CzdW2NADXlQh8xBy9sGRjE_Jdq624c.ETDbFJO2HoNJnsmCtccq4eD1ACcFAD9Ego3XH_HdpycldoYhSwo1Hl5x94x2VbjpXIYBw9AMLhhIB22XYd64toIg3h4Ikbw5pGXCerQb2vxLwV05fTrBlr32hE8LDld0aP8jqOz6o3VjJB7m6auczIPtBsUMvk18ZtC1ju4djXPmTg3VRt4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2E43C361087D41B888B42C6CEE6897BA@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: Max for Live sneak preview with some nice looping.. 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<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_31B2_01CA20CD.C714E3E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 12:14:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2943D3BF13; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=maKRgNFGITIH1R7Vw1/UKsMke8bK7pk0upHfxFmqt3k=; b=FqpwmsIO9fJofthEAZE93NNouA1pqQEs9ia/mEdyOGJqEw3Fu9uNZ3S4Oai5a6+BsP wQZkFv9b8vrOqFijJfGxqRhnu6Lwjf0uVgFzWlXUcQgunEZyM4Q31FbcAFrVK9Ievp5Y jMj4N6o8oErZFMD2ptHlOi1YcjOds2OuabHLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BEeF9yiUjVwdpG+u8Z8g3209SDQmtKTqIH/9e20XbfXFo1/CmgVewU3j8GnnKaBWLl RMRuL/poNmKJPZ+jNB+U0S/ORfStpFxF//w2/V0eCeiTRMlGFDt64gqn0hwkJ9Cil8ly iCOYoGbz5FpbSo9TycXA/VWW0XwJ8qqZGbBoY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908190204l529178d4xc49e170967f1bcd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0908181925i18fd687cne4812df4eaafe164@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908190204l529178d4xc49e170967f1bcd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:14:25 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908190514n414d227cxb6915e81a50644f3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Using the IK Multimedia StealthPedal to replace a Behringer FCB1010 as a midi controller From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Looks like a nice setup! Is it possible to "daisy-chain" many Boss > FS-6 Dual Footswitches? I don't think so. The midi control software seems to specifically limit the number of external switches to two. I think that is probably this set ups biggest limitation. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 13:20:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A19293BF14; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=DIHnQVDhH5VWNpExHi8pZaPBtQwnfWU38Q90HBafoK4=; b=jhsM00FoCLPj61V+yjd1FiVmwATV/yNtIUvD06KMupwwN4Xh4WqOKOE4471KK/6kXV FZ7KnWdkg/Gr8zCOqIGQ6gM0ZUz2D5i2fayFyUGipKR3tYLJG2bl0S96mEs2pN1Wl+bP ekDKW5C8TtvIW0VSWTkKZcYMq3KW5UB4M6AwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mOtqdczwFooPehPu+QMZTbOiVZhJry9vAw+3dSkCqNfQvS/LWYkcCecKN9pNk02K3i +TkTsqi66J5aZk/Xnura8CZMJxR2xKW9U2lDZo6uf5Mqjwp8Uxs083LBgQ/PtzIsaun9 FJFZUoKc2Pa5wuWXlqkqypbaeK2130sN74O6Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:20:08 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908190620t1f4b2b73wbb9343c4f7c03025@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Tape Loops 8 From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9a2c7800c1904717e7ec2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:20:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d9a2c7800c1904717e7ec2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone! Some time ago I have presented to you Tape Loops, a little app to perform and compose ambient/aleatoric music. Several days later i have completed a beta version of a similar app, called Tape Loops 8. http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=software&t=tapeloops&a=tapeloops_tapeloops8 This time it is more suitable for music that should be synchronized. The idea is very simple - 8 loops to trigger, first loop is a synchronizer. I know that there are possibly a lot of apps with a similar functionality. What some people may appreciate Tape Loops 8 for is it's minimalism and basicness, to make up a word. All feedback would be welcome. Having tried it out to make synchronized music like house, I can see that what needs to be done is a quick way to mute/unmute loops - this is on its way. Thanks for the attention! Louigi Verona. --0016e6d9a2c7800c1904717e7ec2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone!
Some time ago I have presented to you Tape Loops, a litt= le app to perform and compose ambient/aleatoric music. Several days later i= have completed a beta version of a similar app, called Tape Loops 8.

http://www.louigiverona.ru= /?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dsoftware&t=3Dtapeloops&a=3Dtapeloops_tape= loops8

This time it is more suitable for music that should be synchronized. Th= e idea is very simple - 8 loops to trigger, first loop is a synchronizer.
I know that there are possibly a lot of apps with a similar functiona= lity. What some people may appreciate Tape Loops 8 for is it's minimali= sm and basicness, to make up a word.
All feedback would be welcome. Having tried it out to make synchronized mus= ic like house, I can see that what needs to be done is a quick way to mute/= unmute loops - this is on its way.

Thanks for the attention!

Louigi Verona.
--0016e6d9a2c7800c1904717e7ec2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 14:39:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACF273BF0D; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 245469894/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.188.56/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.188.56 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgYCACeri0pPTrw4/2dsb2JhbAAIk1fEAYQaBYpB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,408,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="245469894" Message-ID: <4A8C0E9D.5090707@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:39:25 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT FS Looper MicroKorg FX etc References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:39:13 +0000 (UTC) phillip wilson wrote: > Zoom 2120 - older then the 707 but with some crazy extras such as > mulitipart looper built in...£40 > ? Zoom 2100 surely ? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 17:46:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06F243BF0D; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rx+c5aIMVH5qKN+7Sd82Cxm9a/ZxxwPdwNUO+HhPIic=; b=Y6aKRL4W1VeaoyjuqxR8pC98oQHWmzMMfI+GjM6ZcPO87WfkKSHnAy+GJHML1Oh/2x Vm5WeKyAQrsYbgMKkTqJL68N/NR8YWXz3FqWNUU97Y+vFFcI61hY1yXrcvvYi259CC3X DDANOc5Hx8UxyrdioVOJLaidKTAbsA9u7yJXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mPsmxLKbR4UXN7UHx78TXAVQH1/Q9P35YF1VLntCpsIXc/CLkjcg7EyWWY+s/yhzaz sxv6dgAv6Mjg4QzMufrCc6nLyB2Nvn8qbDDVEe85ZmawX04jY+niJrLfAp4AhE4M2Kqp J3cyPCz7myV0zgPA/hx6np0RQ0ZSF7XAh0p8I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:46:10 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0896670dd85664fa Message-ID: <37f071c00908191046y5e5bd3d9wbfb87e6e3ee20a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Ustream/Ninjam question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone know off hand if you can stream the output of your desktop via Ustream (or similar) or does it have to be from a webcam only? I was wanting to find a way to do live video mixes instead of live music (there are video loops though). Also, I was thinking it would be fun to contribute live visuals to online musical collaborations if such a thing is possible via Ninjam or the like. But I don't know if this is even possible, hence my question here. Any pointers greatly appreciated. Kevin My apologies if this comes through twice -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 17:46:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50EE43BF0F; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nhm6TCTOcAcVn5CXqCuQeMvKT3G3ZpTO8linzTzjZTs=; b=DJ7gLewuE4HVRGuLxSbBm9u9dVtR6M3nIOyKbYPvpxlIIw3BP6IwZDDsuOVbeNkiId bsdYCKuhnq5yA7Z90al59ZMtguwWPDvZxbnilhXgJgfQKK9f+dx7NZ5GdBNojGD5ndyR +EhKfm05oFTcTeSAX9EepVBh3mo+anmod2hzI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uRzTw/0td42WhjgOQKfI/ug3iZ8f2iJHquYhbm3vYIA080DPBWIOiVn6T/CPw/osqi G21ZFg0NpUA4XUuVH9hLKB6Ga6IT0wRHty8Bk9JY2lXieDh7BdGf1QBRJdgEDnHlEpqz 8EwL+WYyKdD0PbYZqwd8OpUHQkZtwDHEF+/hg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:16:31 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b703229a88a52a60 Message-ID: <37f071c00908191016r7d0bba40i66c0c5e3ef024fca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT Ustream question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone know off hand if you can stream the output of your desktop via Ustream (or similar) or does it have to be from a webcam only? I was wanting to find a way to do live video mixes instead of live music (there are video loops though). Also, I was thinking it would be fun to contribute live visuals to online musical collaborations if such a thing is possible via Ninjam or the like. But I don't know if this is even possible, hence my question here. Any pointers greatly appreciated. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 17:48:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CC423BF0A; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=m6ir6/PRw+Z8Avfcf/23tdeiGf5T9ofNEdd9gxSJ3ivhRynLcjZlshAHg+lM75xjlAdZ6y5e5XH7yWql+V66EVJY5peHBQt9gL3i7VsyzJ/Jnm6v/K8/mkxAYFy+ea59zPo7O7KF6/5+DY3WT3gNDAmpSoONS1lQuOLDqOPANQ4= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: O4uyOm8VM1lvINhV9d.GMnjflow11sqchI5H968V3Q2z5PTMCFv7RN17P.3qAjwrhj9MsYrTAQsJx4gKp_bsZUVSqVO67c.e6wD2sXBzbh.yPGUyq1vT7JJB2vJnrKHNZjpQFxco2N43kkKUGswJeEzp5Trbk.uGfPc_gllByZx4AuX_GPZ5ejWPsTgvmDrKysMQjCDL3SnNvlC41yNJYR89rE.gJFRmzX.QxYD8iuBgAORl8.JyBNvchC.cE9io7scrlcN_px_RK7pwCwAcgtr8ZYjkgLhjBB.LmZcMZNOVuAQ82UvO1Kry86f9oe02PWmKeL2565qNEvsPwfSg2g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <37f071c00908191046y5e5bd3d9wbfb87e6e3ee20a@mail.gmail.com> References: <37f071c00908191046y5e5bd3d9wbfb87e6e3ee20a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--333501339 Message-Id: <039C061F-A002-422B-B1FD-E78294CB4CEB@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: OT: Ustream/Ninjam question Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:48:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:48:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--333501339 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Should be ok there are various options in the broadcast options. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 19 Aug 2009, at 18:46, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Does anyone know off hand if you can stream the output of your desktop > via Ustream (or similar) or does it have to be from a webcam only? I > was wanting to find a way to do live video mixes instead of live music > (there are video loops though). Also, I was thinking it would be fun > to contribute live visuals to online musical collaborations if such a > thing is possible via Ninjam or the like. But I don't know if this is > even possible, hence my question here. > > Any pointers greatly appreciated. > > Kevin > > My apologies if this comes through twice > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > --Apple-Mail-2--333501339 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Should be ok there are various options in the broadcast = options.



Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 19 Aug 2009, = at 18:46, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:

Does anyone know off hand if you can stream the = output of your desktop
via Ustream (or similar) or = does it have to be from a webcam only?  I
was wanting to find a way to do live video mixes = instead of live music
(there are video loops = though).  Also, I was = thinking it would be fun
to contribute = live visuals to online musical collaborations if such a
thing is possible via Ninjam or the like.  But I don't know if this = is
even possible, hence my question = here.

Any pointers greatly appreciated.


My apologies if this comes through twice

-- 
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the = body and to have a
form. That is the primal = ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana = Maharshi (1879-1950)
Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org

=

= --Apple-Mail-2--333501339-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 18:05:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4F633BF14; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250705105; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=MmsrYyOYNLfRZuYaVfUgarL0Zoo=; b=IL09XQoRuBvRvVL0kncsc9pIFC1ykAAYOyrP43aBzhRnoiPzzhRMmeRSuX8yRW2w oOBR4l2NwnvnJPpSWCyAjdCn9vsCM8js8Mis8dbQLLeLXoxMZTOacWS9B8WumY+F; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qyk2pYupAAAA:8 a=kpHFvfvXAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=Xucwip3amney4BJF3sAA:9 a=JSI2b8q1MLJSLWHgzIgA:7 a=Ucx7OUqkHBMtf6cvS_UT4OG9AnAA:4 a=Sfrf-_KrAt0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601ca20f7$9418e1b0$75862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <37f071c00908191046y5e5bd3d9wbfb87e6e3ee20a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ustream/Ninjam question Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:05:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:05:05 +0000 (UTC) yes! I have not tried this one yet, also Ustream allows line input for audio, you are not stuck with web cam audio. http://www.livestream.com/procaster/video Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: OT: Ustream/Ninjam question > Does anyone know off hand if you can stream the output of your desktop > via Ustream (or similar) or does it have to be from a webcam only? I > was wanting to find a way to do live video mixes instead of live music > (there are video loops though). Also, I was thinking it would be fun > to contribute live visuals to online musical collaborations if such a > thing is possible via Ninjam or the like. But I don't know if this is > even possible, hence my question here. > > Any pointers greatly appreciated. > > Kevin > > My apologies if this comes through twice > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 18:35:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EE573BF17; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4722 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:35:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fs96uCSA7MAqdmmefAztMePfbABPlZG/S5PIk/TEyaY=; b=PVQeeOYsPYbHYbaAeqqSM6KPDkZWekrEfbAaD8PorLqNtK8NcSIiHDkmJMOLIcR+3e 34Ug9SYLaA3Bi3WYYhWzOHt+48hOOvTJLWAQSs7mOU7gIfffluBZtWcmmhuR6rKWBT47 6y4Zi5Y5YF78KcHQLOlbtrINMh1zPJScK+090= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hOC1E+EpPrxH+OHXjR2fuAAM+jm6U9UJEOmQZ3Kg711A3hkwwDbtWA9iOgebn5vagE vvqBxXyQnMVtkxxEq/5v3S6+bdSr3P6t5K93hzG3T/Wg9fJcgjKUtT36axx3R135rMF7 5hWMQZtKfrHvQ6X6BJfRYRlgaKE0IM8xO+/0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:35:13 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6d7b062f472160e9 Message-ID: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Touch Screen From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:35:15 +0000 (UTC) This might be a nice way to add a touch screen to your computer set up ($230 doesn't seem too bad or is it?) http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-720-S Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 18:36:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C3FB3BF1F; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1478 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:36:25 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bd6Q8awcKl7xWSohf3wpt19yQnBUfjjwdYD+P7UMOxQ=; b=J/OrrJfTTgNBbfc61OopUNiQ3/5s1zq8jECyJjD0yKExpsp9Kvu18fSPNdwyHwVTea 6Mjv2RCjc2h9YSrjISKiFmORhEOK3cVr0btkqkal7ep+9GAarSQzKtiihdXeDG4HN2KJ UyfOr6I6gVHI5Jq10O8q+MUVQhtfNT7DelWL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jKZVLVXGiSWXKHe8Z24oe3YVMH+BhxipzYgVaHtUbpv1H4XAtBp840w32aVvPh/SS+ sCoTb2J/PqI9ELR6YaV8w+2xf7op+90RiuTUsNHLVsRSGeLec8/hxG1tcIiqlSxPz7Tw aOuIs6gLlbOhQrjWkfkwulExEGileI4HeEiGE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <913728d60907271508m1c2d7af3v89f68cfc261a78ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <913728d60907271508m1c2d7af3v89f68cfc261a78ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:11:46 -0700 Message-ID: <6b0f74300908191111m643711f7k71a0f850de12bf73@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX fuse (a little OT) From: S V G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Peter Toms at Condor Electronics in Seattle. 206 633 5190 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > Hello All! > > I realize this is OT and whatnot, but i need help and i know a few of you > know a bit about electrix gear--anyways, I have the MoFX and i just blew a > fuse--I can't find a replacement fuse in the area--i realize they are 250ma > and 250V and whatnot, but i can't find the right size--can anyone point me > in the right direction? > > if anyone can help, it'd be much appreciated! > > > Thanks, > Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 18:51:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C8683BF1B; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m8V0gKtit641bbMOpbAqyH8RBZuUMLZnm3VkKPDV1ao=; b=maj8TjjKmE5wOHPXhHPIkUhCBiHVp42wTf0FK/UcAnd18MmsukV2wIPBUFcdVXd30d z/m5M0guDKvFmEAmG/UHAEBJU/PlUcVypLorYEk0AuNDUygpPliJ2tm1eNBL6Vzgq+cx JWUzXtfGNrkac1gZaO6qhRwVGc4lrJU458UJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dW43KmspvuAJIbdTKO6EfseT/ylhRjL+ebjQr4Tx2p1BIw27hauGNkd8iVeIXAMmAd xnsq259KloGEbQnltk+IwymXNkcfUH1Di+5tFzFefP7E8hM+9tb2TQoyZKqrIKzpPWvh qSd0EMerMZVLu/6Hq1Pla3C+5LRSYgZ9es7Ag= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <039C061F-A002-422B-B1FD-E78294CB4CEB@btinternet.com> References: <37f071c00908191046y5e5bd3d9wbfb87e6e3ee20a@mail.gmail.com> <039C061F-A002-422B-B1FD-E78294CB4CEB@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:51:09 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908191151j3a0522aco860ca1407f07c6d6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Ustream/Ninjam question From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c41744e67b60471831e8c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:51:13 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c41744e67b60471831e8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kevin re the audio when you go to Broadcast Now and get the smaller window interface. There are two dropdowns, one for video one for audio. In the one for audio if you have a USB audio interface as I use it will reference that in my case I use a Tascam 224 so if that driver and device are initialized on my Mac uStream will pick it up. If you are using some kind of analog to your computer line in the line in will be an option if it's alive on your computer. A sidebar of this if you are on a Mac that has an iSight camera as in the case of Matt and I, and wanted to us an external webcam for some reason as I did recently, uStream can't differentiate between internal and external usb on the Mac. Though several scripts are out there to disable iSigyht they don't disable the internal USB port. The work around that is glitchy but does work on enough tries is to start up Photo Booth first and convince OSX that isight is busy when you kick off uStream, it will then detect the external camera. This took several open/close tries but did finally work. I realize you didn't write about this but maybe there is a sidebar interest or others on the list will be curious and your thoughts spurned the output. I have not outputted desktop or B-roll source to roll over the live webcam as sounds like you want to do, I"ve thought about it but not explored. Jeff has explored greenscreening I think to justin or ustream. Jim btw I have a show this weekend on ustream, my URL is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 and it will be this weekend at 11am EST. Another announce coming soon more formal. --0015174c41744e67b60471831e8c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kevin re the audio when you go to Broadcast Now and get the smaller wi= ndow interface.=A0 There are two dropdowns, one for video one for audio.=A0= In the one for audio if you have a USB audio interface as I use it will re= ference that in my case I use a Tascam 224 so if that driver and device are= initialized on my Mac uStream will pick it up.=A0 If you are using some ki= nd of analog to your computer line in the line in will be an option if it&#= 39;s alive on your computer.
=A0
A sidebar of this if you are on a Mac that has an iSight camera as in = the case of Matt and I, and wanted to us an external webcam for some reason= as I did recently, uStream can't differentiate between internal and ex= ternal usb on the Mac.=A0 Though several scripts are out there to disable i= Sigyht they don't disable the internal USB port.=A0 The work around tha= t is glitchy but does work on enough tries is to start up Photo Booth first= and convince OSX that isight is busy when you kick off uStream, it will th= en detect the external camera.=A0 This took several open/close tries but di= d finally work.=A0 I realize you didn't write about this but maybe ther= e is a sidebar interest or others on the list will be curious=A0and your th= oughts spurned the output.
=A0
I have not outputted desktop or B-roll source to roll over the live we= bcam as sounds like you want to do, I"ve thought about it but not expl= ored.=A0 Jeff has explored greenscreening I think to justin or ustream.
=A0
Jim
btw I have a show this weekend on ustream, my URL is http://www.ustream.tv/channel= /sunday-morning-at-11 and it will be this weekend at 11am EST.=A0 Anoth= er announce coming soon more formal.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 20:41:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B4063BF1D; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :x-mailer; bh=i4pL4TU0fsEamITDd7PtKZR4RbeevTDRplAMdfsJCDw=; b=LQS4ld6IiqYBK9JSRRugg9pGe1y6qDBneLbRRwy/0l4LDf7845D3A+g0rbpr7d1K7+ dPYCPPYFy2fyLR5dOBxr1vYmMr/9JBGN/13lrdBj7hxI7/YCTAyHTR9HR/pGVG5XXu/9 bdkz+WnyZ/znLQWF4QyqlQ2q0lrHOBy4qIseY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=Nk8AIjY05Ym4XvpVM7daQP8gli0FHl2HhIeX0YWNttoXnN1jpH5VhPvSYu+B/AbFiR 429YqCr6oQLC2V2xes8QXRpaG6iibc//wHpjokB87jd50HtSl5DSPh8AbygnVnF8WnEM zlG4/DHek9U9KOvFYb5bCgv6UlUgQENd7TFvU= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: music from nature Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:41:16 -0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:41:41 +0000 (UTC) I liked this one. its not live looped, but still sounds familiar and holds hints for found sound fans: http://www.youtube.com/user/DSSessionVideos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 20:59:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B0553BF1C; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=B8YZUxbD08V85Akxpg1TSZeys4zpG212R0BAavDly1s=; b=iqrpEAK+r0PC81w8ah0R03LA46S7BQFKsSrhHQjs1X3BEwyE2/Cdxf1NOqV5lK13Mb 7pf87na9lwye3cj13CT/eNZpGxiKdgkdyF8DbXuhjjtdHK/tasEWQl0UAt+zU9eWHHdz DXjvKIjzbeCTOv9cnFlTXtKb3CBNttF3v5CU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zw3sKvts6LwNJb4AGiG1a2VxX9CJONIwlzgeX2t4psSp+JgA9BxlSE1Joj/wx/nWI/ bQ7RWn2FxAk6wz2sPiZf0UVKzacbdH1B4wte3p8CSvC2qp3EtZlzU/JQmOvcH7fOZil5 fO9HSunXj1muNEk+avDXCWjO67vxgc2K2OafU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> References: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:59:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Touch Screen From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) The screen resolution is pretty low ... On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > This might be a nice way to add a touch screen to your computer set up > ($230 doesn't seem too bad or is it?) > > http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-720-S > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 21:10:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481CC3BF1B; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_755612cc-ad21-48ac-855e-c817e5307cbf_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.148.10] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: Touch Screen Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:10:47 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2009 21:10:47.0038 (UTC) FILETIME=[857071E0:01CA2111] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:10:48 +0000 (UTC) --_755612cc-ad21-48ac-855e-c817e5307cbf_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i paid $50 on ebay for my 15" touch screen- the rackmount was $150 though....ha still a cute invention=2C thanks for sharing fro > Date: Wed=2C 19 Aug 2009 14:59:00 -0600 > Subject: Re: Touch Screen > From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > The screen resolution is pretty low ... >=20 > On Wed=2C Aug 19=2C 2009 at 12:35 PM=2C Kevin > Cheli-Colando wrote: > > This might be a nice way to add a touch screen to your computer set up > > ($230 doesn't seem too bad or is it?) > > > > http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-720-S > > > > Kevin > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. 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Try i= t now. = --_755612cc-ad21-48ac-855e-c817e5307cbf_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 21:13:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C752D3BF1D; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1sgsxwpSUAB2L70fcoseghQ9PV/oS9VCWWe5cajWsmw=; b=oiIW5P9ps/UzGW8xnQUut+kyMoQVsGLqfS8SLEL9cDvbQgLevlTo2l3eNXlAiFLEOb UdBbE79uNCeArlj2D9AbntHdynPhLRSbHHTuFvB9DKgbPbQGj1MBAzb900s0uPwKxwhv u5Sy0QtVxlflHslXnZb71n5pRdicnIfS2uuco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AFFGnXb6lTyPYopZB0If2mBaFvq/Ybs7DNT7mztXsq2DlM5xouudCjebEZsHAUiotS CW53OSMoIyWpmGyPqpIVuBIcdCYMMhFyC76tskV4SikONWU3ZroxcW0pB5U7vZl0Xahf amtrS7sevBhU5yjxyi8ccOZG9hZZcNFZUzXmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:13:25 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908191413r2f2b6dadt490cb61e01740376@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: music from nature From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:13:26 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > I liked this one. its not live looped, but still sounds familiar and holds > hints for found sound fans: > > http://www.youtube.com/user/DSSessionVideos I agree Diego Stacco's work is highly interesting! I've been fiddling a lot with his sounds in the Stylus RMX libraries. At http://www.diegostocco.com/ they say a 2012 trailer uses his soundtrack but it's not yet online at http://www.whowillsurvive2012.com/. Maybe soon. I like his general sound aesthetics. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 21:19:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B8693BF22; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Rev Fever'" , References: <62D40B6E-DD01-4436-BCBA-52D5CBAC6F6C@ubergadget.com> Subject: RE: "Will" and Les Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:19:48 -0700 Message-ID: <06FCC81F80A649CE98A5E58AA76A76E8@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA20D8.1F49B770" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <62D40B6E-DD01-4436-BCBA-52D5CBAC6F6C@ubergadget.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcohEfEFkqKSiG6uQmC5HCiVGMXLFwAADrkw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:19:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA20D8.1F49B770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Danger Will Robinson Danger !!!!! I love Bill Mumy!!!! he had some classic roles on the Twilight Zone as well, the McCauley Culkin, go to child actor of his day. Bill PS oh the pain the pain... Dr Smith _____ From: Rev Fever [mailto:revfever@ubergadget.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:47 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: "Will" and Les Stumbled across this nice pic. It is actor / musician Bill Mumy, who played "Will" on the late, great 60's USA TV show "Lost In Space", standing together with the late, great Les Paul. http://www.billmumy.com/mumy/galleries/music/friends/BMLespaul.jpg (Bill has been playing guitar and singing he was about 6 or 7 years old. He's in his 50's now.) Enjoy! Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ PS- I was a *huge* fan of "LIS" when I was a kid! The robot ruled! "Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!" :-) ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA20D8.1F49B770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Danger Will Robinson Danger =  !!!!!

 

 I love Bill Mumy!!!! he had = some classic roles on the Twilight Zone as well, the McCauley Culkin, go to = child actor of his day.

 

Bill

 

PS oh the pain the = pain…….

Dr = Smith

 

From: Rev = Fever [mailto:revfever@ubergadget.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, = 2009 12:47 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: = "Will" and Les

 

Stumbled across this nice pic. It is actor / musician Bill Mumy, = who played "Will" on the late, great  60's USA TV show = "Lost In Space", standing together with the late, great Les = Paul. 

 

(Bill has been playing guitar and singing he was about 6 or 7 = years old. He's in his 50's now.)

 

Enjoy!

Cheers,

Rev Fever

 

PS- I was a *huge* fan of "LIS" when I was a kid! =  The robot ruled!   "Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!" =  :-)

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA20D8.1F49B770-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 21:34:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A9283BF25; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=I1Yi6ANhUAZta1AOcSjrkCVh4aX7bf/863sSYpWruiVv+OolEK8ZqA2aWMYM6XiG; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <62D40B6E-DD01-4436-BCBA-52D5CBAC6F6C@ubergadget.com> References: <62D40B6E-DD01-4436-BCBA-52D5CBAC6F6C@ubergadget.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:33:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Netbook for looping? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-961404867==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7920391a790560f63a8344382399c7a8c6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) --============_-961404867==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Anyone using a "Netbook" for audio? I am talking about the Intel "Atom" n270, n280 based sub notebooks running windows or linux... http://tinyurl.com/mkxwts or http://www.acer.us/acer/product.do?link=oln85e.redirect&changedAlts=&kcond48e.c2att101=-1&CRC=2759084358 -- --============_-961404867==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Netbook for looping?
Anyone using a "Netbook" for audio?  I am talking about the Intel "Atom" n270, n280 based sub notebooks running windows or linux...

http://tinyurl.com/mkxwts

or

http://www.acer.us/acer/product.do?link=oln85e.redirect&changedAlts=&kcond48e.c2att101=-1&CRC=2759084358
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--============_-961404867==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 22:06:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B6843BF29; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Jqvz6RtwTPPIqN+o7K+fhwEYOEg11rzXB4U3lu5XvxnsVG5+LbjJAd1CpoaBx5Y0oRZIca+/EMhDJxzfFdKd3Z6GCoLdt6h+Q8Jtxl1jFyXLh49zxqKF4gV5hTDAWuJiG6PS3yJCvSZr2GHGBGrm0/hG2x9GffLEGI1V38rgOr0= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: snBu1PMVM1lcMVEGOP3ykRYqEEM5QIVQdESAsa8zbHbNtH274wR9TIIbqmFP4WJ_Yy9ugOAUrkBnTWrFrAiHDPv3cSmOpZn4ObZnlklT2hA8qx5PNrg.EMZb0LHdBLHzIBnTkcNlojEiADdhEuSLXEeBurYQdTfZDBpwMShX9n9zK2vehV91CuHGEi1HW0gTuE9GImjmOm95_4FBsQu3HA.R8DnnaCR0XQJksMiCJHGwirCpA9CqnTK5GqVic4NSJPN6cQP3_9PrcbhsG_6FOkB1P86i0BnSd2hxTJFTTALEiJhU.JNt_Ml_LC2xf35OWmcprZI3BzGFUGLwRVcUsXiaO7jd8578Be0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4BB7994F8F5E45D78E62255E52E524F1@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <62D40B6E-DD01-4436-BCBA-52D5CBAC6F6C@ubergadget.com> Subject: Re: Netbook for looping? Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:06:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA2121.A3DAE6F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:06:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA2121.A3DAE6F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netbook for looping?i know a few guys using the acer model running osx = and linux - seems to run supercollider pretty well. real time processing = seems to be pretty stable, looping included. i'm thinking of getting one = as my next upgrade, but holding off to hear some more = opinions/reviews/experiences... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Charles Zwicky=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: Netbook for looping? Anyone using a "Netbook" for audio? I am talking about the Intel = "Atom" n270, n280 based sub notebooks running windows or linux... http://tinyurl.com/mkxwts or = http://www.acer.us/acer/product.do?link=3Doln85e.redirect&changedAlts=3D&= kcond48e.c2att101=3D-1&CRC=3D2759084358 --=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2313 - Release Date: = 08/19/09 06:03:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA2121.A3DAE6F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netbook for looping?
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA2121.A3DAE6F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 22:36:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D6D53BF28; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OT: music from nature From: looppool@cruzio.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for that link, Matthias. that was really cool. I love how he attached his stethoscope to a microphone. I found a little red childrens' stethoscope at a flea market around the corner from Per's flat in Stockholm and have discovered an amazing world with that instrument. I split open it's plastic chord and inserted a small lavalier microphone from radio shack but I'm not entirely please with the results. It's not picking up the really low frequencies that you can hear with the stethoscope, unfortunately. Per's small stainless steel sink in his aparment is amazing. I wish I could have recorded what I heard through the stethescope while 'playing' it one evening. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 19 22:53:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79D923BF26; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; bh=S/vn5SbZkTnlq2DURvGP7n7KAiKdWuzE8irMMC74JxQ=; b=wy3QGnHVN67ZbroxGTj8Oo7t6Q9YXN79BT/KaEJxGN4h5EsDTna8UreqJCS5z25Jc5 l7X9ozi0m5sq+m9RvQrh/zKfJSDL/bNSQcGHiZSxSiufK+G/hOQqR+ONEdDfye80kQlB zCSPBc+iBzmjgqBEkPc7x+oohLH3ycyYosbRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date :references:x-mailer; b=dJ7REXRMTxO4iraVecMfYCkIon51E8YRALeUyZk/TU2gMiA+NxsxOMBhkVD8OuAt9f zdSoTxjbc20LZ1alocoAvTAiOWPpZxZ73p4l50bcQY0zWS3Wozqk7EmW/TtJFlmgWagm BhlvngrWcIMnLdIOKgovVjlznZuqSd5QkihH0= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: stethoscope X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:52:37 -0300 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:53:02 +0000 (UTC) I was amazed to read about two kinds in wikipedia: "a diaphragm (plastic disc) or bell (hollow cup). If the diaphragm is placed on the patient, body sounds vibrate the diaphragm, creating acoustic pressure waves which travel up the tubing to the listener's ears. If the bell is placed on the patient, the vibrations of the skin directly produce acoustic pressure waves traveling up to the listener's ears. The bell transmits low frequency sounds, while the diaphragm transmits higher frequency sounds." so which one do you use? Isnt this the point about electrorganic instruments? we can listen to the sound where its generated! or is it the coloring of the stethoscope which you like? On 19 Aug 2009, at 19:36, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > Thanks for that link, Matthias. > > that was really cool. > > I love how he attached his stethoscope to a microphone. > > I found a little red childrens' stethoscope at a flea market around > the > corner > from Per's flat in Stockholm and have discovered an amazing world > with that > instrument. I split open it's plastic chord and inserted a small > lavalier microphone > from radio shack but I'm not entirely please with the results. > It's not picking up the really low frequencies that you can hear > with the > stethoscope, > unfortunately. > > Per's small stainless steel sink in his aparment is amazing. I wish I > could have recorded > what I heard through the stethescope while 'playing' it one evening. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 00:46:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719593BF2C; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iyf2EAacE4PIujLLDhPuihFtkxMzSVNt4K2l1sBd+DI=; b=HlJrmAn1NihvJYWAlNEnfz/AZ13N98z/zSWEyME1mncPxt7EA8o929zwv6e55coV42 kv9ZeP5dsVrvpZVFJqEOYa9PfdBpBUTyK4cZ+olSLKzp80Tsll8mLRs0pDp2X8cntS/2 sQ+eDB8ArV/Dzp8t4X92tvS/5RT/rAq5c+aKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vcsr5q75FYHfFW102mtLkZNUAXI9j51AUxWjQP/FNNaYvGyMQzo5Z1eoZZjH/K+i7P NPXQwO4ww5Z+WyWVdKeuYzTe7IdG4EWFGsYEq41WT+OLHP/FUNgdwEWssQlPpq2/z9NG AKcnO1wRa5OBv3bi44Lm7coavTdNB5E0HS5Qg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <62D40B6E-DD01-4436-BCBA-52D5CBAC6F6C@ubergadget.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:46:08 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908191746r7013f071va06cca05d4cd40df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Netbook for looping? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:46:09 +0000 (UTC) I've been meaning to test out my MSI Wind. On AC power, it has an overclocking "turbo" feature that boosts performance, so it might get to the acceptable range. I'll let you know. I'm disappointed we haven't seen more powerful chips for those netbooks. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Charles Zwicky wro= te: > Anyone using a "Netbook" for audio?=A0 I am talking about the Intel "Atom= " > n270, n280 based sub notebooks running windows or linux... > http://tinyurl.com/mkxwts > or > http://www.acer.us/acer/product.do?link=3Doln85e.redirect&changedAlts=3D&= kcond48e.c2att101=3D-1&CRC=3D2759084358 > > -- > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 00:46:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A783D3BF33; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <11457.72.22.1250729190.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:46:30 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: OT: music from nature From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Brilliant. Loved it. Thanks for the link. On Wed, August 19, 2009 4:41 pm, Matthias Grob wrote: > I liked this one. its not live looped, but still sounds familiar and > holds hints for found sound fans: > > http://www.youtube.com/user/DSSessionVideos > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 04:01:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A45653BF30; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:01:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=iddCgiD8bNZh6UClGxn2fp/BMz+lApU8L9ppmwxfsLw=; b=V3nyk0e02fNkaAI/oMgQVIM5EiAZMC8LOJUbWe1YoaZ8m9WzO2+iVJ3K7+nETaMm7w QygW8qMu5wJtGPfrWA5BSTz0xBiWtwkqxEcxxjEF8OKuZj2ahYGaaquwfzvXIwIxwcV9 xOBwU1ZZVl3K/0SztRxerkL7W64yVElF7+Mzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NGpW103eeEhhpwLnr+op0Hyc160EXN6bxLxrjfJ5EefYqn3AhyVZpK9IzFattO0as2 ku4Y7NBuCbjWe+z+5721gBH6fhbXsr8ekqQ9xLcE1fY25X+8us8rbdMoMxLtd9KKyV36 9/vaoneVnYB9ldCzrvza2RWzYYmMiJd/1osrM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908192101y209e044di37371cc51be905ad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual gigspam: Sunday Morning at 11 this Sunday From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022158df8f7ab1e6e04718ace93 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:01:35 +0000 (UTC) --0022158df8f7ab1e6e04718ace93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear list... I will be doing another live episode of my bi-weekly webcast *Sunday Morning at 11*, this coming Sunday, August 23, at 11am EST. My show URL is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 . Global times are 8am PST, 9am MST, 10am CST, 11am EST, 4pm UK, 5pm western Europe, 12mn Japan. To confirm exact time in your locale goto http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html . Have a great rest of the week and hope you will join me on Sunday. 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 --001636b2b95f9fc4b2047192a21f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 14:12:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5B3F3BF56; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aBbaPNdgTK5SvERoMGVtt7Lymid1BC8RtEbzNgKUWp4=; b=D/+BML+AhgoffJA+Q5/JVhnzD6IOIsUWa9t0sP4qajK0Z7U5laUAKvMULSc+EHGBNE mRSOuH7At8vW6D8pXRkQOKidrbPJVNKMHG6aUplfISi9obyCmF7ggI9yylF2ucv1bcbv qER5t0NVVfMgAoS1zjwdYWXxx2tHNzbN998+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KNLH34PwTQgXeu9NgBejtyEBUvud6NwB1rpvgBZd2NXmccC/uyDItPYSHbSgVvVRlL i0KOqsVRd93Ywv3GOC/F+QYe+b3SpJ/7HKm7yC/z9U/IQjO8x4dBnaW2eqZx0dCWqlk8 5QxTSaQwbi+6yk/dhbWzuQwO6iE6VTCoS4M9w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:12:02 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1fa261a8720774b0 Message-ID: <101191640908200712m33d629bew7db93f6eacbdb3e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Tree Looping From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Duke put this awesome link up on Facebook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-ZoVMwGKM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fhome.php&feature=player_embedded great way of presenting looping in a video, imo (in addition to the coolness of the music and concept itself) -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 14:26:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 137233BF5B; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <79BFBB39-F03D-4D92-B83E-A8B870355DB6@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--259215857 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Touch Screen Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:26:47 -0700 References: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:26:49 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--259215857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit really cool! let me know if anyone gets on and uses it on a Mac richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > This might be a nice way to add a touch screen to your computer set up > ($230 doesn't seem too bad or is it?) > > http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-720-S > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > --Apple-Mail-2--259215857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable really cool! let me know if = anyone gets on and uses it on a Mac

richard = sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=
On Aug 19, 2009, at = 11:35 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:

This = might be a nice way to add a touch screen to your computer set = up
($230 doesn't seem too bad or is it?)

http://www.mimomo= nitors.com/products/mimo-720-S

Kevin

--
Till now = you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. = That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =  http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos







=

I will be doing another live episode of my bi-week= ly webcast Sunday Morning at 11, this coming Sunday, August 23, at 1= 1am EST. =A0My show URL is=A0http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-mor= ning-at-11=A0.

Global times are 8am PST, 9am MST, 10am CST, 11am EST, 4pm U= K, 5pm western Europe, 12mn Japan. =A0To confirm exact time in your locale = goto=A0http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html .

Have a great rest of the week and hope you will join me= on Sunday.

Jim

--
Get DADGAD Encyclopedia, a guitar instructional book/CD by Jim Goodin on M= el Bay Publications, Inc. =A0http://www.melbay.com/product.asp?Pr= oductID=3D99934BCD

Jim Goodin's digital downloads and CD'= ;s including Chinapainting's release Night Blooming Cereus, are availab= le on Bandcamp.com at http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com=A0and selectively in the iTunes mu= sic store.

--0022158df8f7ab1e6e04718ace93-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 07:16:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6875A3BF34; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1250752607; l=399; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=ZSZqQk3ARnC6ufTjJKEIlrinnnU=; b=yR3iXIdGgpJbXjqK1FwQWjee/meUhxdCeYchEoq26IpBN7YFTTczLlorxdtnC8Qgnle RNQo+IOOLHC5pSMveHzrtw9Wkb2M/ls9YwIGIfieN6JWllxbgBR+81YJuDsVY3SDcEMN4 V0jzDA7eja0gkZvcQEMc3Q0FDLyD7XMocpc= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWbBObpUsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <007f01ca2166$afaa39f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: Subject: Re: music from nature Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:08:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Weird stuff, but great ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" To: "Loop List" Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:41 PM Subject: OT: music from nature > I liked this one. its not live looped, but still sounds familiar and > holds hints for found sound fans: > > http://www.youtube.com/user/DSSessionVideos > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 07:18:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59DE93BF33; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 245807372/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.198.28/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.198.28 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugBAJaVjEpPTsYc/2dsb2JhbAAI1hmEGgWKRA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,413,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="245807372" Message-ID: <4A8CF8B8.6040404@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:18:16 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: music from nature References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:18:02 +0000 (UTC) looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > I love how he attached his stethoscope to a microphone. > I split open it's plastic chord and inserted a small > lavalier microphone > from radio shack but I'm not entirely please with the results. > It's not picking up the really low frequencies that you can hear with the > stethoscope, > unfortunately. Possibly you just need a better mic ;-) Actually, a cheap electret usually has a deep bass response, but I wonder if you'd get overload distortion. If it's a cheap dynamic, then likely you're expecting a bit much from it. Also, lavalier mics tend to have a large dip put into the bass response to reduce the chest resonance you'd get from hanging a mic round your neck. In uk, we have very cheap karaoke mics available in the bargain shops. (balanced o/p for £1 or so in one case) If you can get such a thing in US, then a good idea might be to remove the capsule from one and use that. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 07:39:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 820503BF37; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x/pE8CO0CwIX1Njdem/YiAXNA2Fh702JBbxC+8J2hUk=; b=eYNEBL6FDd1YOz9Xp6MxJAP2Ko6XvyDmO7MKMAlKFEhD9bPgGLsyPV4Q1VU5NgwI9f RM2Ce3CSQot1hz0gHfHlkKbQ5RU22Q/y1WUPXMjUQ4JHQ2nFvn1A/SDW8m0qpzFWKrIn pCbNBMGv3vVYKbIuH3uhyNGDg9pgeLWtqor4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hE8+trlQ+plLM7BMX57JKoCUxBPjKpxASU9+Zr90FFpWu6Wsjyq27jlsqMq+bdwJnL BR/x4drHFJbZhbwG9p25BsOZ+lBvPvpwhTFYr2zubBjsJfiD7bTaxL1TJ3Ryd5PIiPWR /rmvY8vOJMHYSECWkVueprFTDXcpj2XkfJZJs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:39:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:39:22 +0000 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_audio_software -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 07:48:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E3233BF3B; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7XPGMKW5ds9L5NdX7ukyFQrDbmpFTGKX1c0lGaycAf0=; b=SEy8IjW739F/69d7yvolN5LTF3hHJiZ/ke4652V0Zdm9bzUCRGsVKM4xC9xDTGrsaX sUgJcj/uvdvJ80yFZHxp0Vo105KbOJW7bRII7E+xndnGXfnaugmuETpepw5YCZPZ70P+ ocqerhZxiD5CP06EC/2SemMIZ1pTr3QkuvQXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=C1QioGT1E6QKWZ2INKGmeHrKdBdp8uLeOnhMfaIJhHrmNT6FRj9+X28UXUyke5LGPn 9O8bg8rRYyeSQ9YTVuwt/LlAyfT+r962iu0VWSvWmbQhaqPXBpnIjrIBD0QUDjIRARRv qqiv1z+ZRayNPGDcc6U1qfUY6Ak4C/iXe0+Ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:48:51 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fa168924bf404718dfb2c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:48:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016367fa168924bf404718dfb2c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a good list. I would strongly suggest a Linux based operating system called Musix - it is in that list. But have anyone actually tried out free software DAWs? I had a look at LMMS, Rosegarden and MuSe, but all of them seem very 90s kinda systems with a lot of modern functionality lacking. In LMMS I couldn't even set up a normal delay effect - the plugins available were ugly and absolutely non-user friendly. I would love to read about someone's positive experiences. Louigi Verona. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_audio_software > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > --0016367fa168924bf404718dfb2c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a good list. I would strongly suggest a Linux based operating syste= m called Musix - it is in that list.

But have anyone actually tried = out free software DAWs? I had a look at LMMS, Rosegarden and MuSe, but all = of them
seem very 90s kinda systems with a lot of modern functionality lacking. In = LMMS I couldn't even set up a normal delay
effect - the plugins avai= lable were ugly and absolutely non-user friendly.

I would love to re= ad about someone's positive experiences.

Louigi Verona.


On Thu, Aug 20, 20= 09 at 11:39 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_audio_software

--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com


--0016367fa168924bf404718dfb2c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 08:17:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BEF23BF3F; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3CcDqTNxnAohFvE6on2cR+NKBgruUiGIPNI9VC+RTaw=; b=r3uzSNJOz5znGXoGv2FmP5EueBoanfqzsRZAHqjb3gCpRKPyrwhYzh7KYBsLd64qex lwGN9GLSfHou14yjeNh495EiEXos3imLqNHNz7CR8QNfjhgjM7r25ndIJenNelhikg6l jDUtgpxCIQ4JDCPblL634cpRPFvDGzFF+lh/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DHrwRdxV3+/0C9ii7MGspD9WTT1tiXSOKsQ+yYdpriybHucXXh+FKSSAexTmc6iSoB ikvQsBB6Z4HDdK0iHkCvB6z4n789gwgISwSW4U7nN8A63cCfvByHONKtMtIwYWMrjt95 qY0XvKJj2+rOF35PmHvDl60vYBQ/wEdZtVp3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:17:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908200117q9697c02qc2f97a5282d8fbcb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:17:06 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_audio_software What a fantastic time this is! :-) On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Louigi Verona wrote: > This is a good list. I would strongly suggest a Linux based operating system > called Musix - it is in that list. Louigi, it would be helpful to know why you recommend Musix? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 08:22:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F09B3BF39; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6PEPrcI/+0uTRb2ARzHKKLXpzO5soOXwSSujLHPM5s8=; b=bfTfBX+jvYg1by6+TzepjSLBqYRE8a7RR7jcpt6nkmxSWj7kPeRoKBsShEsovTxWTN LGahTXCwfcnzSAFU1ruAFVfC6nKzRNK1ldr5e2im/SqfRsGZtlaTCaYQN1bcoMqqKSmD 7ADhJHEz8zNezKAQA80lax/sdaq+RaTaNV4OE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=auZy/Dq4RKCRgVk1/AlS8j+SYd8v0JZ67QdZcBQ4ulCpxs2ppUAWWOliTpt2XM/zOi XPwr1l3hkiCpxpoCu5Ratn6jh8Jz8GhpOIspo1uK+lc3E3hTMe6WwyfTPHhtM3kIMCrK oei+KDjdhnd73EzTsb/WtY8d8KfpcAy7iFGpU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908200117q9697c02qc2f97a5282d8fbcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0908200117q9697c02qc2f97a5282d8fbcb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:22:38 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908200122s54ebe2b6x26389ad3b538cb73@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99a2160409604718e7474 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:22:40 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99a2160409604718e7474 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, because if you did try any free software audio, it is very difficult to install and configure. you have to separately install sound drivers and some sound "servers" like JACK and start the manually. I've spend two days trying to get at least some sound from Rosegarden and eventually failed. Musix, on the other hand, provides everything "out of the box". You click on Rosegarden and start up scripts take care of JACK and all that other stuff. Something that had to be done a long time ago - user friendliness. It did work for me in the Virtual machine, but it failed to recognize my E-Mu soundcard though and I do not know the solution for that problem now. Louigi Verona. > > Louigi, it would be helpful to know why you recommend Musix? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --0016e6d99a2160409604718e7474 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, because if you did try any free software audio, it is very difficult = to install and configure. you have to separately install sound drivers and = some sound "servers" like JACK and start the manually. I've s= pend two days trying to get at least some sound from Rosegarden and eventua= lly failed.

Musix, on the other hand, provides everything "out of the box"= ;. You click on Rosegarden and start up scripts take care of JACK and all t= hat other stuff. Something that had to be done a long time ago - user frien= dliness.

It did work for me in the Virtual machine, but it failed to recognize m= y E-Mu soundcard though and I do not know the solution for that problem now= .

Louigi Verona.





Louigi, it would be helpful to know why you recommend Musix?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


--0016e6d99a2160409604718e7474-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 08:43:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 148C23BF08; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UUwbfgxFiAFTaefTBDCAaxdvt59pHb7MMIbQfLXkrBU=; b=XfvtunLf3zgwKcuAxZbxM5vOXHsyfxIvNVmVr7yJNXO1a2OY2oti8mwj9BGot4bvya hkOo+JGHBktnzislH0IAsJ70CkLNQ9POViPkcDf7Hrc/rPBk0RRUfRxU3bzzhUWNbu0+ a9xhU5PNgBcrvSPtM0KYa8aYyFyIMyLK8nAes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wNr8yGISjzGmSEXFy5zu6kyWMczNGtO808msBTwe3zYxqzlfiT4HXJ/mClcdXH6fLt +JOFfRtLAGXPV2HpJ8UlL+Yzo0cpTG4CH8y2zF+TQDELM64JIEryuRdKzvceI/pmMc7z sUqpDG9nghgb3jJyFytapGYT6fywKvwUC5EKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908200122s54ebe2b6x26389ad3b538cb73@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0908200117q9697c02qc2f97a5282d8fbcb@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200122s54ebe2b6x26389ad3b538cb73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:43:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:43:15 +0000 (UTC) what about pure:dyne? it can be booted from a live cd or usb stick. includes pd, supercollider, fluxus, ... http://code.goto10.org/projects/puredyne/ ... look at this :-) http://code.goto10.org/projects/puredyne/wiki/GetPureDyne 2009/8/20, Louigi Verona : > Well, because if you did try any free software audio, it is very difficult > to install and configure. you have to separately install sound drivers and > some sound "servers" like JACK and start the manually. I've spend two days > trying to get at least some sound from Rosegarden and eventually failed. > > Musix, on the other hand, provides everything "out of the box". You click on > Rosegarden and start up scripts take care of JACK and all that other stuff. > Something that had to be done a long time ago - user friendliness. > > It did work for me in the Virtual machine, but it failed to recognize my > E-Mu soundcard though and I do not know the solution for that problem now. > > Louigi Verona. > > > > >> >> Louigi, it would be helpful to know why you recommend Musix? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 10:21:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2AC63BF3E; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4c0a7d9c-2ca9-4075-9321-d51e266a4145_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: OT FS Looper MicroKorg FX etc Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:21:06 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A8C0E9D.5090707@tiscali.co.uk> References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> <4A8C0E9D.5090707@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2009 10:21:06.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[EDB6BDE0:01CA217F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:21:07 +0000 (UTC) --_4c0a7d9c-2ca9-4075-9321-d51e266a4145_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed=2C many thanks for pointing that out...was typing it up at work !! =20 P =20 > Date: Wed=2C 19 Aug 2009 15:39:25 +0100 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT FS Looper MicroKorg FX etc >=20 >=20 >=20 > phillip wilson wrote: >=20 > > Zoom 2120 - older then the 707 but with some crazy extras such as=20 > > mulitipart looper built in...=A340 > >=20 >=20 > ? > Zoom 2100 surely=20 > ? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. =20 http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=3DT010MSN07A0716U= --_4c0a7d9c-2ca9-4075-9321-d51e266a4145_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed=2C many thanks for pointing that out...was typing it up at work !!  =3B
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 11:19:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 861CA3BF46; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A8D326B.5060407@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:24:27 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio References: <66f9cc1e0908200117q9697c02qc2f97a5282d8fbcb@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200122s54ebe2b6x26389ad3b538cb73@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908200122s54ebe2b6x26389ad3b538cb73@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Louigi Verona wrote: > Well, because if you did try any free software audio, it is very > difficult to install and configure. you have to separately install sound > drivers and some sound "servers" like JACK and start the manually. I've > spend two days trying to get at least some sound from Rosegarden and > eventually failed. A common issue in Linux, although it's gotten a lot better.. > Musix, on the other hand, provides everything "out of the box". You > click on Rosegarden and start up scripts take care of JACK and all that > other stuff. Something that had to be done a long time ago - user > friendliness. That I didn't know, thanks. > It did work for me in the Virtual machine, but it failed to recognize my > E-Mu soundcard though and I do not know the solution for that problem now. Virtual environments do not directly intereact with hardware, but rather through abstractions, i.e. drivers are part of the virtual layer, meaning you won't be able to directly access your soundcard. Future developments will see hardware developed for virtualized systems, where not only the OS and virtual layer can do context switches, but also the hardware. Don't wait for this overnight; it's the future.. > Louigi Verona. > > > > > > Louigi, it would be helpful to know why you recommend Musix? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 11:24:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D93A73BF4B; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kbQT+zIaX8IfB2x6i7Z79r8ZzAy3QEd1s1qglh1MJXQ=; b=Byx+E5nuUyL0RqUgeO1m39GJ5agcn3I6R2+QxFutO2hdcEvX6fv6NypEUAxewYxeZJ bl4GmH4lL4XyxTfJz3yPfyFZA9YOYVYGuGODbun2HGJ8eHmvxo5X/oPASyc/csC38708 GIRpLZOeswU+WkROfAAmjvj73yqfCEwSKKpBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=my4U7g41iR81uWI6MDXN4GNxElVze2w3HL+Ivv60LgnhROExGOyQS7rRmfZvYL0zXL 58DHM0lAousEGJpLh9stfhFk38Sn+acutia1sr6UjdkgOOVgbi7spb79eb5DKmZeDkQF 44n+VlbdViYXzYFvyatfBjZkufh/R4LoU4A1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A8D326B.5060407@post.cybercity.dk> References: <66f9cc1e0908200117q9697c02qc2f97a5282d8fbcb@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200122s54ebe2b6x26389ad3b538cb73@mail.gmail.com> <4A8D326B.5060407@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:24:03 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908200424n5b0b0af9t8ef037d410e972af@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7a2723e51b047190fd23 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:24:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7a2723e51b047190fd23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, I meant the sound worked in virtual machine, but did not work in LiveCD mode. It couldn't recognize neither my build in soundcard, nor the USB external one. Louigi. > > It did work for me in the Virtual machine, but it failed to recognize my >> E-Mu soundcard though and I do not know the solution for that problem now. >> > > Virtual environments do not directly intereact with hardware, but rather > through abstractions, i.e. drivers are part of the virtual layer, meaning > you won't be able to directly access your soundcard. > > Future developments will see hardware developed for virtualized systems, > where not only the OS and virtual layer can do context switches, but also > the hardware. Don't wait for this overnight; it's the future.. > > > > --0016364c7a2723e51b047190fd23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I meant the sound worked in virtual machine, but did not work in LiveCD= mode. It couldn't recognize neither my build in soundcard, nor the USB= external one.

Louigi.




It did work for me in the Virtual machine, but it failed to recognize my E-= Mu soundcard though and I do not know the solution for that problem now.

Virtual environments do not directly intereact with hardware, but rather th= rough abstractions, i.e. drivers are part of the virtual layer, meaning you= won't be able to directly access your soundcard.

Future developments will see hardware developed for virtualized systems, wh= ere not only the OS and virtual layer can do context switches, but also the= hardware. Don't wait for this overnight; it's the future..




--0016364c7a2723e51b047190fd23-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 12:11:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4955A3BF4A; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ENHR0d7sYM1Ie41e2/NqSuSzLfK96yFAvhMGwNGyxGc=; b=q2yZrTkvHEMPPQ5OEi2YG8e+xm1jDjG65M7o5k4vBc9U0NBWWJscQgKx8adtRm783o 1F6OgeM/djYlw/w3qsdfOgRDCKOD06gOmR5VdJ2lgskDuXxFhFgnfkgF74cQ07m4DN5Q s+hT4BdSlcaw343gj2r1gteuDqidx/Wj7NkZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SriZN40Izl1kuCgZWsqD87r7zHYR8Ul9ADp48wk8EvUlbBKZk3A1hFgfuEf4nZByC2 MJ/tryvKZTFbX2v2Syxde56+bE+6SCjSpDAwSzAKYnb29IKgudcMEXg5wcH9+6ilIljw A23xDI8S0ZDL+BV0mbWzfMBcutbi8yp4zSvJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908200122s54ebe2b6x26389ad3b538cb73@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0908200117q9697c02qc2f97a5282d8fbcb@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200122s54ebe2b6x26389ad3b538cb73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:11:44 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110908200511u3119dcbaq476bb23b32916bed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f87b58b0a335047191a777 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:11:45 +0000 (UTC) --001485f87b58b0a335047191a777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another Linux distribution tailored to audio production is 64Studio, which gets very good reviews. It was based on debian, but newer version are based on Ubuntu. Also, so far as I know, auto start of JACK is in fact not really a distribution specific phenomenon - many jack aware applications now have the option to autostart JACK if its not started. With regard to your sound card not being recognized, it would pay to visit the Alsa website and check for driver compatability. The last time I checked a few of the higher end EMU cards are not actually supported by Alsa. Alsa is the driver layer that JACK uses to communicate with the hardware, so your issues will lie there. Just search for "Alsa matrix" and you should be able to find specific information about the level of support for your card. -Michael On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > Well, because if you did try any free software audio, it is very difficult > to install and configure. you have to separately install sound drivers and > some sound "servers" like JACK and start the manually. I've spend two days > trying to get at least some sound from Rosegarden and eventually failed. > > Musix, on the other hand, provides everything "out of the box". You click > on Rosegarden and start up scripts take care of JACK and all that other > stuff. Something that had to be done a long time ago - user friendliness. > > It did work for me in the Virtual machine, but it failed to recognize my > E-Mu soundcard though and I do not know the solution for that problem now. > > Louigi Verona. > > > --001485f87b58b0a335047191a777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another Linux distribution tailored to audio production is 64Studio, which = gets very good reviews. It was based on debian, but newer version are based= on Ubuntu. Also, so far as I know, auto start of JACK is in fact not reall= y a distribution specific phenomenon - many=A0 jack aware applications now = have the option to autostart JACK if its not started.

With regard to your sound card not being recognized, it would pay to vi= sit the Alsa website and check for driver compatability. The last time I ch= ecked a few of the higher end EMU cards are not actually supported by Alsa.= Alsa is the driver layer that JACK uses to communicate with the hardware, = so your issues will lie there. Just search for "Alsa matrix" and = you should be able to find specific information about the level of support = for your card.

-Michael

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:22= PM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, because if you did try any free software audio, it is very difficult = to install and configure. you have to separately install sound drivers and = some sound "servers" like JACK and start the manually. I've s= pend two days trying to get at least some sound from Rosegarden and eventua= lly failed.

Musix, on the other hand, provides everything "out of the box"= ;. You click on Rosegarden and start up scripts take care of JACK and all t= hat other stuff. Something that had to be done a long time ago - user frien= dliness.

It did work for me in the Virtual machine, but it failed to recognize m= y E-Mu soundcard though and I do not know the solution for that problem now= .

Louigi Verona.



--001485f87b58b0a335047191a777-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 12:27:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC5963BF4D; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YJUPDbNHIzVY/N5kzwAfFyCkZX6s9E4bMpsNtANqPu0=; b=oEgpARFfvqKn159Lr30QD3BN+yu/VIIW9BILjf670jVAbpoSOW8g9MgAAgcgZTntcM J2uQdF6UX8wv4Ir1D4izVPyUeVcv/Kjqoy902dLH+5w+rOSBWnzYDalwDX/XhAyNp7Bd Newkmvod7Y84wNZlktTbTdyprScfkH2zt869M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=J/ofO+xRFbB9pSecpAlZ8drsMFEOTsmXGaNGXxod5i/SJ0SIc4UAYhe/WgIN2Dtsr+ M2sWPLjvMdrGbEhgaaDvLKTD6ceEt560fdjgMz1yuTY56uWA0ZBXeNc0886/zzNKCseL u8eq80GwR+ev8a+slO95aWldIvXN3YosPvmM8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:27:40 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110908200527u27c96a83t7e8208434ed9fbd6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2b95fb4a93f047191e0c7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:27:41 +0000 (UTC) --001636b2b95fb4a93f047191e0c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've tried pretty much every linux DAW over the past five years in the search for something that does what I want, and the hunt continues. Ardour is close, and QTractor is also up there amongst my personal favorites. I'd have to agree about rosegarden, LMMS and MuSe all looking and feeling dated, but that's mostly because they all use dated GUI toolkits. There's a new promising project called OpenOctvae. One of the components, open octave midi, is basically a fork of Rosegarden with the audio and score editing removed and the UI tweaked slightly to improve sequencing workflow. Until Ardour hits version 3 with full midi support, a combination of Ardour 2.8 with Open Octave Midi looks to be a very powerful DAW environment. This brings me to one of the biggest hurdles I've found that some users face in learning to use Linux as an audio platform. The linux philosophy has traditionally been to shy away from large monolithic programs that do everything and towards smaller purpose built software that can interconnect easily and efficiently. Kind of like a modular synth at the operating system and application level. Once I accepted that, I stopped being so hung up on the concept of a single DAW application. It has in fact opened up a very efficient use of processors for me as well - with quad core processors and JACK2, you can essentially run a number of applications processing an audio feed in parallel and share the processor load. In this way I've been able to have time-stretched 32 channels of sooperlooper running loops of up to 3 or 4 minutes in length and still have processor available to run JACK based effects. Of course this was just a stress test to see what the system could do, but it gives an idea of the advantages of a modular and parallel processing approach. Maybe Windows or OSX or OpenBSD or AmigaOS or name your OS can do all this. All I know is that I find the time invested in learning linux audio to be well worth it. That of course is the cost of "free" - you have spend the time to learn how to use it well in order to get any benefit from using it at all. -michael --001636b2b95fb4a93f047191e0c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've tried pretty much every linux DAW over the past five years in the = search for something that does what I want, and the hunt continues. Ardour = is close, and QTractor is also up there amongst my personal favorites. I= 9;d have to agree about rosegarden, LMMS and MuSe all looking and feeling d= ated, but that's mostly because they all use dated GUI toolkits. There&= #39;s a new promising project called OpenOctvae. One of the components, ope= n octave midi, is basically a fork of Rosegarden with the audio and score e= diting removed and the UI tweaked slightly to improve sequencing workflow. = Until Ardour hits version 3 with full midi support, a combination of Ardour= 2.8 with Open Octave Midi looks to be a very powerful DAW environment.

This brings me to one of the biggest hurdles I've found that some u= sers face in learning to use Linux as an audio platform. The linux philosop= hy has traditionally been to shy away from large monolithic programs that d= o everything and towards smaller purpose built software that can interconne= ct easily and efficiently. Kind of like a modular synth at the operating sy= stem and application level. Once I accepted that, I stopped being so hung u= p on the concept of a single DAW application. It has in fact opened up a ve= ry efficient use of processors for me as well - with quad core processors a= nd JACK2, you can essentially run a number of applications processing an au= dio feed in parallel and share the processor load. In this way I've bee= n able to have time-stretched 32 channels of sooperlooper running loops of = up to 3 or 4 minutes in length and still have processor available to run JA= CK based effects. Of course this was just a stress test to see what the sys= tem could do, but it gives an idea of the advantages of a modular and paral= lel processing approach.

Maybe Windows or OSX or OpenBSD or AmigaOS or name your OS can do all t= his. All I know is that I find the time invested in learning linux audio to= be well worth it. That of course is the cost of "free" - you hav= e spend the time to learn how to use it well in order to get any benefit fr= om using it at all.

-michael


--001636b2b95fb4a93f047191e0c7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 12:41:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 477D53BF4D; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bavpOD1mSKkwZ/6Hnt6oYKr2gf4/vy/0P1Ge67jsrgs=; b=s3JAkjKgEjLPv7YTFRK+MukiHy0SRD8KZkf3hJyUE8XjkbswNBzzBI2quqYp/El+EU Cpq0V6ax5/IqbwWDnlzlYwYnnN6c8zhQ6xHIzFwD47u3qo6AZfKDYxxtRTG5Zm5IP/FZ F+ajy2ELAgpoyt4dbn1yWxynMZqiqRZI3+64A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sYmW6A7ECISN6TankfgEn7QfoTIKXYMJL7pwnJ9hf6rANrfCpzy8t2Rnhn860RWdks y6PLNn3k0TswInmSPBa1Vyr8WGh/zWwsr944UQn7+xH5TIgcnOZ2ah6aq92Os4MCM+5Z cNhNZLxW237lta/1xT2s00wU7HeZz2qax9GD8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110908200527u27c96a83t7e8208434ed9fbd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200527u27c96a83t7e8208434ed9fbd6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:41:25 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908200541q3a30dcd3o417edc6561663fb1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77e91d306dc047192111c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:41:27 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d77e91d306dc047192111c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael, interesting info. Actually, today in the morning I looked at the QTractor screenshots and decided that it looks very promising indeed and that I want to try it out. The parallel thing is interesting and I wouldn't mind having several apps open at the same time. But what I need for the kind of music I do (sound music, ambient music) is to be able to have various effects - vocoders, delays, flangers, slicers, etc. I do not need a note editor that much as I need sound processing effects. VST effects offer good functionality and they are visual and easy to use. With the free software plugins as fas as my experience - they are very few and pretty buggy. For instance, I tried to create a simple delay in LMMS. I am telling you - I couldn't do it. The delay eventually produced by one of the plugins was not reading the host app tempo and the delay time was very short - no matter what I did I couldn't set it to, say, 3 or 4 steps - it sounded more like in a rage of 0,5-1 steps which is rarely needed. I can be wrong (I'd be happy to), but I am not sure that the free software world has enough sound processing plugins for an average electronic musician, whose music is based on sound processing. Am I wrong? Louigi. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:27 PM, michael noble wrote: > I've tried pretty much every linux DAW over the past five years in the > search for something that does what I want, and the hunt continues. Ardour > is close, and QTractor is also up there amongst my personal favorites. I'd > have to agree about rosegarden, LMMS and MuSe all looking and feeling dated, > but that's mostly because they all use dated GUI toolkits. There's a new > promising project called OpenOctvae. One of the components, open octave > midi, is basically a fork of Rosegarden with the audio and score editing > removed and the UI tweaked slightly to improve sequencing workflow. Until > Ardour hits version 3 with full midi support, a combination of Ardour 2.8 > with Open Octave Midi looks to be a very powerful DAW environment. > > This brings me to one of the biggest hurdles I've found that some users > face in learning to use Linux as an audio platform. The linux philosophy has > traditionally been to shy away from large monolithic programs that do > everything and towards smaller purpose built software that can interconnect > easily and efficiently. Kind of like a modular synth at the operating system > and application level. Once I accepted that, I stopped being so hung up on > the concept of a single DAW application. It has in fact opened up a very > efficient use of processors for me as well - with quad core processors and > JACK2, you can essentially run a number of applications processing an audio > feed in parallel and share the processor load. In this way I've been able to > have time-stretched 32 channels of sooperlooper running loops of up to 3 or > 4 minutes in length and still have processor available to run JACK based > effects. Of course this was just a stress test to see what the system could > do, but it gives an idea of the advantages of a modular and parallel > processing approach. > > Maybe Windows or OSX or OpenBSD or AmigaOS or name your OS can do all this. > All I know is that I find the time invested in learning linux audio to be > well worth it. That of course is the cost of "free" - you have spend the > time to learn how to use it well in order to get any benefit from using it > at all. > > -michael > > > --0016e6d77e91d306dc047192111c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael, interesting info. Actually, today in the morning I looked at the Q= Tractor screenshots and decided that it looks very promising indeed and tha= t I want to try it out.

The parallel thing is interesting and I woul= dn't mind having several apps open at the same time. But what I need fo= r the kind of music I do (sound music, ambient music) is to be able to have= various effects - vocoders, delays, flangers, slicers, etc. I do not need = a note editor that much as I need sound processing effects. VST effects off= er good functionality and they are visual and easy to use. With the free so= ftware plugins as fas as my experience - they are very few and pretty buggy= . For instance, I tried to create a simple delay in LMMS. I am telling you = - I couldn't do it. The delay eventually produced by one of the plugins= was not reading the host app tempo and the delay time was very short - no = matter what I did I couldn't set it to, say, 3 or 4 steps - it sounded = more like in a rage of 0,5-1 steps which is rarely needed.

I can be wrong (I'd be happy to), but I am not sure that the free s= oftware world has enough sound processing plugins for an average electronic= musician, whose music is based on sound processing. Am I wrong?

Louigi.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:27 PM, = michael noble <lo= oplog@gmail.com> wrote:
I've tried pretty much every linux DAW over the past five years in the = search for something that does what I want, and the hunt continues. Ardour = is close, and QTractor is also up there amongst my personal favorites. I= 9;d have to agree about rosegarden, LMMS and MuSe all looking and feeling d= ated, but that's mostly because they all use dated GUI toolkits. There&= #39;s a new promising project called OpenOctvae. One of the components, ope= n octave midi, is basically a fork of Rosegarden with the audio and score e= diting removed and the UI tweaked slightly to improve sequencing workflow. = Until Ardour hits version 3 with full midi support, a combination of Ardour= 2.8 with Open Octave Midi looks to be a very powerful DAW environment.

This brings me to one of the biggest hurdles I've found that some u= sers face in learning to use Linux as an audio platform. The linux philosop= hy has traditionally been to shy away from large monolithic programs that d= o everything and towards smaller purpose built software that can interconne= ct easily and efficiently. Kind of like a modular synth at the operating sy= stem and application level. Once I accepted that, I stopped being so hung u= p on the concept of a single DAW application. It has in fact opened up a ve= ry efficient use of processors for me as well - with quad core processors a= nd JACK2, you can essentially run a number of applications processing an au= dio feed in parallel and share the processor load. In this way I've bee= n able to have time-stretched 32 channels of sooperlooper running loops of = up to 3 or 4 minutes in length and still have processor available to run JA= CK based effects. Of course this was just a stress test to see what the sys= tem could do, but it gives an idea of the advantages of a modular and paral= lel processing approach.

Maybe Windows or OSX or OpenBSD or AmigaOS or name your OS can do all t= his. All I know is that I find the time invested in learning linux audio to= be well worth it. That of course is the cost of "free" - you hav= e spend the time to learn how to use it well in order to get any benefit fr= om using it at all.

-michael



--0016e6d77e91d306dc047192111c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 13:01:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7A473BF53; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5dz6WCp8e7lFYS3AMK6PHsppLun409c/p/kp3VkPzus=; b=Hr3HJsKpnbOE2k7yD0uEmOc+UXGOc1sc6rjNp+VIbo6+f1lhzcjnuvvZMTbcKdX7m1 qWH3ECTk9thvZLfidUTXg0nT8W5OxWSHZzHQAOoZ12O6GzY1hTPAJ5XTuLZZUYpqSF+u /DQV1shJBXljOgZubEE0vFREs2VUvy6SIjTe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I39uyzNWHY32CxQqbHZLI+hc7y7swn5BpOwi1uE7+hNyB9fIKAsuQtRtRnlA0bjEj4 1r5jtmLSz6o891RAloJpNMOGEbmkNkOb/bDAkrSfzdM8M0tAlTmUZdJN7frP5PVljKkD RHS45U5B6FwvT9e5qyq7GHxJA7i5RsFC1JnvE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908200541q3a30dcd3o417edc6561663fb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200527u27c96a83t7e8208434ed9fbd6@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200541q3a30dcd3o417edc6561663fb1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:01:25 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110908200601g7d3256e3j6c2400deaa74107f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed6e355db1dc04719259fa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:01:25 +0000 (UTC) --001636ed6e355db1dc04719259fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Louigi, I don't use midi at all really, and instead do only sound processing. Without knowing the specific plugin you used in LMMS, I can't really comment on that issue. I can say that I've used the CMT delays and never had a problem with them. These are a series of delay plugins with or without feedback up to 60 seconds in length. They are Ladspa plugins, which means the host must draw the gui, so if the host is ugly generally the plugins will be too! I don't believe they sync to host tempo. In a fix you could try running sooperlooper in delay mode, and sync that to JACK clock or midi clock. As for sound processing plugins and the range on linux i suppose it is dependent on what you are trying to do. There are around 300 ladspa effects of various quality, and some very high quality LV2 plugins, which is the next generation plugin API, with very professional looking GUIs. You can also use FST to run VSTs under wine, which I do for spatialization via the acousmodules series of VST plugins. So there is quite a lot of choice, at least from my perspective. That being said I also farm some of my audio processing off to a windows box running a Korg OASYS, so I'm kind of spoiled. -michael On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > Michael, interesting info. Actually, today in the morning I looked at the > QTractor screenshots and decided that it looks very promising indeed and > that I want to try it out. > > The parallel thing is interesting and I wouldn't mind having several apps > open at the same time. But what I need for the kind of music I do (sound > music, ambient music) is to be able to have various effects - vocoders, > delays, flangers, slicers, etc. I do not need a note editor that much as I > need sound processing effects. VST effects offer good functionality and they > are visual and easy to use. With the free software plugins as fas as my > experience - they are very few and pretty buggy. For instance, I tried to > create a simple delay in LMMS. I am telling you - I couldn't do it. The > delay eventually produced by one of the plugins was not reading the host app > tempo and the delay time was very short - no matter what I did I couldn't > set it to, say, 3 or 4 steps - it sounded more like in a rage of 0,5-1 steps > which is rarely needed. > > I can be wrong (I'd be happy to), but I am not sure that the free software > world has enough sound processing plugins for an average electronic > musician, whose music is based on sound processing. Am I wrong? > > Louigi. > > --001636ed6e355db1dc04719259fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Louigi,

I don't use midi at all really, and instead do only s= ound processing. Without knowing the specific plugin you used in LMMS, I ca= n't really comment on that issue. I can say that I've used the CMT = delays and never had a problem with them. These are a series of delay plugi= ns with or without feedback up to 60 seconds in length. They are Ladspa plu= gins, which means the host must draw the gui, so if the host is ugly genera= lly the plugins will be too! I don't believe they sync to host tempo. I= n a fix you could try running sooperlooper in delay mode, and sync that to = JACK clock or midi clock.

As for sound processing plugins and the range on linux i suppose it is = dependent on what you are trying to do. There are around 300 ladspa effects= of various quality, and some very high quality LV2 plugins, which is the n= ext generation plugin API, with very professional looking GUIs. You can als= o use FST to run VSTs under wine, which I do for spatialization via the aco= usmodules series of VST plugins. So there is quite a lot of choice, at leas= t from my perspective. That being said I also farm some of my audio process= ing off to a windows box running a Korg OASYS, so I'm kind of spoiled.<= br>
-michael

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:41= PM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael, interesting info. Actually, today in the morning I looked at the Q= Tractor screenshots and decided that it looks very promising indeed and tha= t I want to try it out.

The parallel thing is interesting and I woul= dn't mind having several apps open at the same time. But what I need fo= r the kind of music I do (sound music, ambient music) is to be able to have= various effects - vocoders, delays, flangers, slicers, etc. I do not need = a note editor that much as I need sound processing effects. VST effects off= er good functionality and they are visual and easy to use. With the free so= ftware plugins as fas as my experience - they are very few and pretty buggy= . For instance, I tried to create a simple delay in LMMS. I am telling you = - I couldn't do it. The delay eventually produced by one of the plugins= was not reading the host app tempo and the delay time was very short - no = matter what I did I couldn't set it to, say, 3 or 4 steps - it sounded = more like in a rage of 0,5-1 steps which is rarely needed.

I can be wrong (I'd be happy to), but I am not sure that the free s= oftware world has enough sound processing plugins for an average electronic= musician, whose music is based on sound processing. Am I wrong?

Louigi.

--001636ed6e355db1dc04719259fa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 13:07:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 891BA3BF51; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PHkbhSAfLpQPd6oKN5+yk9m8EXacAXRxMGtbgyDrNO8=; b=CMPDYkHhP0iaUTyfxV/b4WHKLSnXTVi7EBqmZyvJM/gCUh4es0bXtpnYuIiCP9Rulc J6ZEd4WkpRmtQEwUbWQZZ2RrlFqbBIpk3FMR25JjXoI1oTedTk4kjAg/d5c6MOZ+lRay 0tYKJWZh3dxlYLSyAlyDKwccqbA3sujWs4yyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pnbDY6we0N1r70Up2EnBsNcoHeEdpF5/FumSrfTE6HbRL0fqdzzvosikrBvh9L8xty AAa2USn6g/5RgerfSoHmE/pmOmqtgR5JP58JXfLknRq5ybRqUkHv8pHKll7erPDYdDKn onourHDgzClN0GCLFU3J5oOXIwelRg2XtxxHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110908200601g7d3256e3j6c2400deaa74107f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200527u27c96a83t7e8208434ed9fbd6@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200541q3a30dcd3o417edc6561663fb1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200601g7d3256e3j6c2400deaa74107f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:07:12 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908200607s71d26bf9m667146ff628d49c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77e911165a60471926e4a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:07:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d77e911165a60471926e4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LV2 plugins sound interesting, gotta check all of this out. Louigi. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:01 PM, michael noble wrote: > Hi Louigi, > > I don't use midi at all really, and instead do only sound processing. > Without knowing the specific plugin you used in LMMS, I can't really comment > on that issue. I can say that I've used the CMT delays and never had a > problem with them. These are a series of delay plugins with or without > feedback up to 60 seconds in length. They are Ladspa plugins, which means > the host must draw the gui, so if the host is ugly generally the plugins > will be too! I don't believe they sync to host tempo. In a fix you could try > running sooperlooper in delay mode, and sync that to JACK clock or midi > clock. > > As for sound processing plugins and the range on linux i suppose it is > dependent on what you are trying to do. There are around 300 ladspa effects > of various quality, and some very high quality LV2 plugins, which is the > next generation plugin API, with very professional looking GUIs. You can > also use FST to run VSTs under wine, which I do for spatialization via the > acousmodules series of VST plugins. So there is quite a lot of choice, at > least from my perspective. That being said I also farm some of my audio > processing off to a windows box running a Korg OASYS, so I'm kind of > spoiled. > > -michael > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > >> Michael, interesting info. Actually, today in the morning I looked at the >> QTractor screenshots and decided that it looks very promising indeed and >> that I want to try it out. >> >> The parallel thing is interesting and I wouldn't mind having several apps >> open at the same time. But what I need for the kind of music I do (sound >> music, ambient music) is to be able to have various effects - vocoders, >> delays, flangers, slicers, etc. I do not need a note editor that much as I >> need sound processing effects. VST effects offer good functionality and they >> are visual and easy to use. With the free software plugins as fas as my >> experience - they are very few and pretty buggy. For instance, I tried to >> create a simple delay in LMMS. I am telling you - I couldn't do it. The >> delay eventually produced by one of the plugins was not reading the host app >> tempo and the delay time was very short - no matter what I did I couldn't >> set it to, say, 3 or 4 steps - it sounded more like in a rage of 0,5-1 steps >> which is rarely needed. >> >> I can be wrong (I'd be happy to), but I am not sure that the free software >> world has enough sound processing plugins for an average electronic >> musician, whose music is based on sound processing. Am I wrong? >> >> Louigi. >> >> --0016e6d77e911165a60471926e4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LV2 plugins sound interesting, gotta check all of this out.
Louigi.
<= br>
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:01 PM, michael nobl= e <looplog@gmail.= com> wrote:
Hi Louigi,
I don't use midi at all really, and instead do only sound processing. = Without knowing the specific plugin you used in LMMS, I can't really co= mment on that issue. I can say that I've used the CMT delays and never = had a problem with them. These are a series of delay plugins with or withou= t feedback up to 60 seconds in length. They are Ladspa plugins, which means= the host must draw the gui, so if the host is ugly generally the plugins w= ill be too! I don't believe they sync to host tempo. In a fix you could= try running sooperlooper in delay mode, and sync that to JACK clock or mid= i clock.

As for sound processing plugins and the range on linux i suppose it is = dependent on what you are trying to do. There are around 300 ladspa effects= of various quality, and some very high quality LV2 plugins, which is the n= ext generation plugin API, with very professional looking GUIs. You can als= o use FST to run VSTs under wine, which I do for spatialization via the aco= usmodules series of VST plugins. So there is quite a lot of choice, at leas= t from my perspective. That being said I also farm some of my audio process= ing off to a windows box running a Korg OASYS, so I'm kind of spoiled.<= br>
-michael


On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Louigi Verona <louigi.= verona@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael, interesting info. Actually, today in the morning I looked at the Q= Tractor screenshots and decided that it looks very promising indeed and tha= t I want to try it out.

The parallel thing is interesting and I woul= dn't mind having several apps open at the same time. But what I need fo= r the kind of music I do (sound music, ambient music) is to be able to have= various effects - vocoders, delays, flangers, slicers, etc. I do not need = a note editor that much as I need sound processing effects. VST effects off= er good functionality and they are visual and easy to use. With the free so= ftware plugins as fas as my experience - they are very few and pretty buggy= . For instance, I tried to create a simple delay in LMMS. I am telling you = - I couldn't do it. The delay eventually produced by one of the plugins= was not reading the host app tempo and the delay time was very short - no = matter what I did I couldn't set it to, say, 3 or 4 steps - it sounded = more like in a rage of 0,5-1 steps which is rarely needed.

I can be wrong (I'd be happy to), but I am not sure that the free s= oftware world has enough sound processing plugins for an average electronic= musician, whose music is based on sound processing. Am I wrong?

Louigi.


--0016e6d77e911165a60471926e4a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 13:12:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9CDB3BF5C; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FoWgWXWFMuUqMNyO8a10zjmtLlMKzZ1tnXYlbJvhCaE=; b=l5j0i6/o1StU9Pn1oDm41jpw8+NvcKUCmF0mzARLEXJ6rlPkrxhX3pfgw2MhWGzWlw E9F6IR9XdbzxgZgCeF5pHoQsy3qzAmPH4tv1jqjHQf2UagK5vNoQuT+MjGRpqWhJWY1b YbuRD8KmXcUM0YfBSG24ohJZiejfNck/96yic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XmQMmBlj537fDAaDCslPKIu6mgU8X4iPd/S6Sy46A4zFFzqGxGEz4iw/H7yHEzDeet /uYu5PPs1nAZe6f6V5qVxbpWx8j4BF7f2n8+AK61sDpsKvaPmFdNzEKS6PnEKiWiViWs sR86XlFrXmseOCTPHc0ksIGtv8C9UYKbEJBWE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908200607s71d26bf9m667146ff628d49c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200527u27c96a83t7e8208434ed9fbd6@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200541q3a30dcd3o417edc6561663fb1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200601g7d3256e3j6c2400deaa74107f@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200607s71d26bf9m667146ff628d49c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:12:14 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110908200612g6b910f1ct8980b5b584416fd6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2b95f0ca76404719280d1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:12:15 +0000 (UTC) --001636b2b95f0ca76404719280d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's some eye candy, from yet another linux audio distro, A/V linux, which includes some LV2 plugins: http://www.bandshed.net/images/Ardour2.8.png -michael On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > LV2 plugins sound interesting, gotta check all of this out. > Louigi. > > --001636b2b95f0ca76404719280d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's some eye candy, from yet another linux audio distro, A/V linux, = which includes some LV2 plugins:

http://www.bandshed.net/images/Ardour2.8.png

-michael

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:0= 7 PM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@gmail.com> wrote:
LV2 plugins sound interesting, gotta check all of this out.
Louigi.

--001636b2b95f0ca76404719280d1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 13:14:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C54B53BF59; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TlQNJkvfgred7XOIi/xAGLQ0N2iDyGh5SXHq2zvg/Ik=; b=s/m/kb8B8ww9io8/wN3QlvWXl0Ok+UcUvWW7yp2ZPzPpHLxSJx5OwoAA+mP4Jp1Oq1 ddPovpZhVOW2SMXVzt4uOsTV/J+4j5aHRAQnXpkF3YjzwemkwcYihn4uJKHR4weFR0Gq Ko5bZ7ja+CrAi2Xr23bx8Jm/4cmCpsjY/nFa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZsVvSuqviBOWDckajjpvv414f1Ci8ub3jICLr1MpzPgken7tZy2WvPwd+HgJJCeXxF 1Ta61nkMiSS0uVeO4nllZ8LeFOkRL7o+wHgnEcgNoGlNCYWzXHY135vB4lIlpqGzBkZ7 9rfg2qFxqZicZfEKLhE1PqeM3gStc6CIH4bDE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110908200612g6b910f1ct8980b5b584416fd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200527u27c96a83t7e8208434ed9fbd6@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200541q3a30dcd3o417edc6561663fb1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200601g7d3256e3j6c2400deaa74107f@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200607s71d26bf9m667146ff628d49c@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200612g6b910f1ct8980b5b584416fd6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:14:06 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908200614y22a71f64i4c8262435d0c1c81@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7205c0d89a0471928622 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:14:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7205c0d89a0471928622 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looks good. Interesting - you are applying the effects to wavs. But do you use them while composing the wavs themselves? Or only for post production? On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:12 PM, michael noble wrote: > Here's some eye candy, from yet another linux audio distro, A/V linux, > which includes some LV2 plugins: > > http://www.bandshed.net/images/Ardour2.8.png > > -michael > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > >> LV2 plugins sound interesting, gotta check all of this out. >> Louigi. >> >> --0016364c7205c0d89a0471928622 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks good. Interesting - you are applying the effects to wavs. But do you = use them while composing the wavs themselves? Or only for post production?<= br>
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:12 PM, michael = noble <looplog@gm= ail.com> wrote:
Here's some e= ye candy, from yet another linux audio distro, A/V linux, which includes so= me LV2 plugins:

http://www.bandshed.net/images/Ardour2.8.png

-michael


On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Louigi Verona <louigi= .verona@gmail.com> wrote:
LV2 plugins sound interesting, gotta check all of this out.
Louigi.


--0016364c7205c0d89a0471928622-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 13:21:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F3973BF6A; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZDw+7ptpDvpYk245kFO5Tb9lzKC/QjLyhNc4lrOJYNo=; b=dWou+GdDqtFwDisdo0/mJghDyCHo2uZaCZtfEnFFIDUxKUYoJXnBBLrQQffh3VLmwa q7/adDfF8pB8BxU+gShBrPIs6Lp17UKJs6wr/xxpWlcHVj7c7hY5EmeKiL9Gs5Phb6R7 Qm8IDDjr4k1+PJ+wI92yEgwtB3LzhvRBiwv3E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kK8qeQM9iBs1pYS1CzLE7EMCbwKsknFU0bQ7wEoS4P3+2CIGOX33matPCFLJqjtmjd IsmRPfv1FQXd/Vz6b9NhbaRMAGtFwmuUmxwHA5CvNybta3H2IeQYrvvOQMQMEQmUqRg5 vPFfwoOqCLNNyUh3UKt+DQWWVpc6iIr1uPcHk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908200614y22a71f64i4c8262435d0c1c81@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908200048k42fbf8bfx331f50c6677b1db1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200527u27c96a83t7e8208434ed9fbd6@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200541q3a30dcd3o417edc6561663fb1@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200601g7d3256e3j6c2400deaa74107f@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200607s71d26bf9m667146ff628d49c@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110908200612g6b910f1ct8980b5b584416fd6@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908200614y22a71f64i4c8262435d0c1c81@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:21:54 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110908200621i1874c2fma462b3875949027@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2b95f9fc4b2047192a21f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:21:55 +0000 (UTC) --001636b2b95f9fc4b2047192a21f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I should say that the screenshot is not mine, I just posted it as an example. For my own work I've up till now I've not done any post production work, instead using the studio to experiment mostly with using space as a compositional tool. That being said, I hope to start doing some recordings when the weather here starts cooling down. -michael On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > Looks good. Interesting - you are applying the effects to wavs. But do you > use them while composing the wavs themselves? Or only for post production? > > > --001636b2b95f9fc4b2047192a21f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I should say that the screenshot is not mine, I just posted it as an exampl= e.

For my own work I've up till now I've not done any post p= roduction work, instead using the studio to experiment mostly with using sp= ace as a compositional tool. That being said, I hope to start doing some re= cordings when the weather here starts cooling down.

-michael

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:1= 4 PM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks good. Interesting - you are applying the effects to wavs. But do you = use them while composing the wavs themselves? Or only for post production?<= div>


= --Apple-Mail-2--259215857-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 15:16:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B39703BF5D; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iuu5d8ndkk3obexU4xa6gpce0IEU4fM3rjDCe5eLs2o=; b=Sv9hd0YMI+tK2Nmn9pHcNgQWBPkHf6RGfqPU7hoJkorKsyhjXk/O1CGKiOUG7Wsnqc 0NnQ8TgCHkFGXyxX43MFmP9eNX8bUl0lZhZi52qhUf8BYciORxwxmpgdS478ByBHuXum HI9D5oiXKVfs6bZnKrbD/cYpH5Buys2lUlASk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mOrKTOtenaD05N6w7fIK0bI4WyPGP14PkFC4I59R1Ouf2uWrFWAygk+5s3FyqpkbuE 0525GJmtT2+zcp4ptHXyr3tOO40cOildsw+QjYwLyvbqfLM1jGffLlJz+ZVgu/JJp4eV qHJQX7px+GvtrDhGAyWbkxz9X1ktmAsQEpBqY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <79BFBB39-F03D-4D92-B83E-A8B870355DB6@glasswing.com> References: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> <79BFBB39-F03D-4D92-B83E-A8B870355DB6@glasswing.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:16:33 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Touch Screen From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Before you spend your money, do take note of the screen resolution: it's roughly 800x400, which is pretty much unusable on anything smaller than a 9" screen...that means Logic, Live, Garage Band are NOT going to display anywhere near "properly" if you want to use it in a "live" setting ... FRO's experience may indicate a better solution: look for a used unit on Ebay that will give you the screen real estate you need. The folks who created the hack for the Dell Mini 9 to run Mac OS X have a script that will readjust your screen resolution to make software like Garage Band usable, but only barely ... it's a trade-off of portability, price, and real estate. Sorry to be harshing your mellow, but there are a TON of compromises to be made doing this; I'm still trying to sort out a working solution for using a pair of netbooks for live looping even now ... Good luck! Dennis On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:26 AM, richard sales wrote= : > really cool! let me know if anyone gets on and uses it on a Mac > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > This might be a nice way to add a touch screen to your computer set up > ($230 doesn't seem too bad or is it?) > > http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-720-S > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > > > > > > > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 15:22:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 423373BF5E; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 246035758/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.198.28/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.198.28 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkcBADQHjUpPTsYc/2dsb2JhbAAIk1XEc4QYBYpG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,415,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="246035758" Message-ID: <4A8D6A57.2080903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:03 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT FS Looper MicroKorg FX etc References: <5cf51d390908170940q5180e089nc1ac31b1358b174a@mail.gmail.com> <101191640908171033y18ff8b69m3fca770d0e84e7b4@mail.gmail.com> <3073AC76-FC55-4CDA-A8B5-3920655A5A4E@johnfloridis.com> <748324AB-6BE3-4BF7-B79A-6BEA728BCD6F@johnfloridis.com> <4A8C0E9D.5090707@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:22:48 +0000 (UTC) yes, the Zoom 2100, a piece of looping history :-) phillip wilson wrote: > Indeed, many thanks for pointing that out...was typing it up at work !! > > phillip wilson wrote: > > > > > Zoom 2120 - older then the 707 but with some crazy extras such as > > > mulitipart looper built in...£40 > > > > > > > ? > > Zoom 2100 surely > > ? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 15:54:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F03943BF62; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Warren Sirota'" , References: <101191640908200712m33d629bew7db93f6eacbdb3e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Tree Looping Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:54:40 -0700 Message-ID: <2527937F27CE4F97B5BB412442DD9957@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcohqnnvLIZo6H2hQDCzgUvSRxeUmQAA++Sg In-Reply-To: <101191640908200712m33d629bew7db93f6eacbdb3e3@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Brilliant thanks Jeff and Warren, that's what I'm talking about. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Warren Sirota [mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:12 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Tree Looping Jeff Duke put this awesome link up on Facebook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-ZoVMwGKM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.co m%2Fhome.php&feature=player_embedded great way of presenting looping in a video, imo (in addition to the coolness of the music and concept itself) -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 16:02:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE68E3BF6B; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:02:58 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed In-reply-to: <007f01ca2166$afaa39f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <007f01ca2166$afaa39f0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> X-Priority: 3 Message-id: <3A706916-BAD7-4761-88CD-1596AC18F153@mac.com> From: Daniel Berkman Subject: Re: music from nature Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:02:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Really nice! On Aug 20, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > Weird stuff, but great ! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthias Grob" > To: "Loop List" > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:41 PM > Subject: OT: music from nature > > >> I liked this one. its not live looped, but still sounds familiar and >> holds hints for found sound fans: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/DSSessionVideos >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 16:14:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC9853BF7B; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A8D77B7.3010909@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:20:07 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Touch Screen References: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> <79BFBB39-F03D-4D92-B83E-A8B870355DB6@glasswing.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Dennis Moser wrote: > > Sorry to be harshing your mellow, but there are a TON of compromises > to be made doing this; I'm still trying to sort out a working solution > for using a pair of netbooks for live looping even now ... > > Good luck! > > Dennis Touch panels for postmouting on some netbooks; soldering not needed: http://shop.ebay.de/merchant/onetouch4sale_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ Nope, haven't tried them; was interested for my guitar rig. Maybe.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 16:32:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C6F63BF68; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250785932; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=+OujZa3Unrzd1BCv94m/sEH9Qxg=; b=K+UYNI75fimu/Orym27WE98NWgaSU9Ybcg664SiqU2bQGQERfxGKm/VbS4mNyC/o tCltGGpLzBw7MHTFzWYkQonTIyKgy/WvVqaD8i8ElhNQ8Tt3RybzfIQLtPBCwowy; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=h-wHvwACAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=3j4BkbkPAAAA:8 a=t6gmu7T4AAAA:8 a=m037NG7EROd9gHsqCn4A:9 a=YLh7aXForeC-09-ocC6Rxh720ccA:4 a=YTTCQ6faurcA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001ca21b3$c42656f0$c7842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <101191640908200712m33d629bew7db93f6eacbdb3e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Re: Tree Looping Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:32:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Sorry Bill, I forgot you keep your preferences to reply to yourself instead of the group. My reply for the group: just a note for the record, I got the link in an LD post from Matthias earlier, then posted to Facebook where Warren picked it up and now reposted it back to LD. Now that is social networking! amazing! :) Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Sirota" To: Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:12 AM Subject: Tree Looping > Jeff Duke put this awesome link up on Facebook: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-ZoVMwGKM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fhome.php&feature=player_embedded > > great way of presenting looping in a video, imo (in addition to the > coolness of the music and concept itself) > > > -- > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 16:34:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 928F03BF64; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1250786053; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=PDaTzv2PLdX7O68CNN9ikZZhq2g=; b=NyyNjyk3LN+fVB6uj4bgCCiZavnp0YTcIOA3Ktwvp6TaO9gi8sckWhTJraO1LJxN ZBpYbyPcZY9r72YQxrBpRU0vWEWXmDIQc5PkGoriv3H8jrgzqw4iXxYs8tmL6oQ/; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=h-wHvwACAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=3j4BkbkPAAAA:8 a=t6gmu7T4AAAA:8 a=1I47NOz9kpUEq6ohnooA:9 a=omuG4vhwqTPAC7wIhiaKtp5YrjYA:4 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=YTTCQ6faurcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001501ca21b4$0c2ff5a0$c7842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <101191640908200712m33d629bew7db93f6eacbdb3e3@mail.gmail.com> <001001ca21b3$c42656f0$c7842245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Re: Tree Looping Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:34:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Come to think of it this is information looping! So it's on topic after all... Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" To: Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: OT: Re: Tree Looping > Sorry Bill, I forgot you keep your preferences to reply to yourself > instead of the group. > > My reply for the group: > > just a note for the record, I got the link in an LD post from Matthias > earlier, then posted to Facebook where Warren picked it up and now > reposted > it back to LD. Now that is social networking! amazing! :) > > Jeff > > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Sirota" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:12 AM > Subject: Tree Looping > > >> Jeff Duke put this awesome link up on Facebook: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-ZoVMwGKM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fhome.php&feature=player_embedded >> >> great way of presenting looping in a video, imo (in addition to the >> coolness of the music and concept itself) >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> >> > > From info@ihug.co.nz Thu Aug 20 17:09:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 867 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:09:29 UTC Received: from mailfilter22.ihug.co.nz (mailfilter22.ihug.co.nz [203.109.136.22]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604F63BF5B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:09:28 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcvADsdjUrUdNtk/2dsb2JhbACBMiGOWYlPgg6GBbcjhBgFijIC X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,415,1246795200"; d="scan'208";a="193894423" Received: from webmail6.ihug.co.nz (HELO webmail.vodafone.co.nz) ([203.109.137.26]) by smtp.mailfilter4.ihug.co.nz with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2009 04:54:31 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:54:31 +1200 From: CGNL WIN To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: (no subject) Reply-To: claim_max22@9.cn Message-ID: <695476a27dffa9798821d0fa2c4f6c9d@vodafone.co.nz> X-Sender: info@ihug.co.nz SenderIP: 212.116.219.100 Received: from [212.116.219.100] (212.116.219.100) (login=bXVkbGFya2RvbkBpaHVnLmNvLm56) by webmail.vodafone.co.nz (running Vodafone Webmail) via TCP with HTTP/1.1 id <695476a27dffa9798821d0fa2c4f6c9d@vodafone.co.nz>; 21 Aug 2009 04:54:31 +1200 User-Agent: Vodafone Webmail Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" -- You have £891,934.00 GBP.Confirm this receipt by replying the due process unit officer:Fill the details: FullName,Address,Tel,Occupation,etc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 18:54:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2D283BF66; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250794491; bh=PvHf6LmkfkHlVx6oy60FjtwNf/gTUGneyZt2W5G8N/M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uZPKECX1iqL5oSoN1XmPcZ/AoJ1zKkXJvTFPkeIkeMpeMaWR/1SDZtsLg4pscI1OkQH72BFe8aRR+IPhhtmEygvmETZ0xaQxSqArd/KyMBE9CmahAZXY3Ug0JMCPHY5OKWmC8bH0U87K3KzfwGCHkEamYSofA2ARDczZxwJLquY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SC8OtjyTVuv2UeB2tTnlW7u5f/Abr5LIULX81pc8D9g8noPyg/vIBIrF/x+qVfC2wfVWLabUMy9firkLqljxbW3UMJJ+eh9QX7QXD+7Y6eUUQUbGNLf7HJxqm3ejHKiMYBDyXJJIFv7DVv2+n93y8kwjo0zjofXPBzAxy94+YVA=; Message-ID: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FqRqNesVM1krVZW2djjYh8awEMu7LvpyvH6ftGyQ8Cfwa3znzi4HR2dbeboWMK4cKu1Drb6pRVPeuJbVwofRlvKP0ki0K2c_f2_LwZ3M7mBManAo4HuTAE3f9oL3RpX8hVu_J.wi0sabae.rRiHmbDV9AJhSok0YlbDa2rdP1IIe6pXHQWRCTXCb46oqDtXjbqzytBFiHibyGlibjEv8gxjnqhmigHwPM3kbI8OwyddOlBJkTUcUGfTDeQ.Ne_aQWi23a48VH.7d5Ud5bXcTonhmJA8_9KkoLSnLyP9UFfkQkawiFgc1orZ2QUgqWa_VTqIilwNOOj1pplwiMEQKNFyS0OHHgj1MqhPU.Er4FUk.Rx4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:54:51 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: ? RE: ECM guitarists? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-352203916-1250794491=:38154" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:54:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-352203916-1250794491=:38154 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are interested in interesting sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever... i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D site could recommend.... was just curious... thanks, happy looping.... scott www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0-352203916-1250794491=:38154 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are interested in interesting sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever...

i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D site could recommend....
was just curious...
thanks, happy looping....
scott
www.myspace.com/scotthansen

--0-352203916-1250794491=:38154-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 18:55:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7812B3BF6B; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b81rigldc84zjJl7Al3Sc9PctjHqDY0rnohioqLDVN4=; b=ThwexVDQZc1/JXfuUdNK5qqj7WiMT5SMs6EDp9zS6jgLEExwWdo0w/cHY9uY30gvIj mZ9EgeAoFwQy3CE2kSk4oavfzRTOckEBTBg3dndfeyCS8/Hm06xQ9Dw3nULnZ+/C5rrd dOXfiryYeyPwPvjg+b6qI+3ZKc2zwaxCgynKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jVnxjF6Tj/K/VSZuR5pz+ie3mxc4PRr4qyL2cXuqj+CvO62UhRTMNpVljZKohnBi2T R71FU316NXNaVbZ3ABD7P2m22LqXhciyDhBtUt64gGFb3q2GUlzNY1NXALcjYPKDH0D1 YWmNNxo660WlI+/gg0SpkcIgaJNiyFJHT46rs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:55:53 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 19d136118eab77ce Message-ID: <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Steve Tibbets is always a personal favorite. Kevin On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:54 AM, scott hansen wrote: > yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from the ECM > label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between improvising > guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had any other "out > there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out there" is a loaded word, > i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't really want to use > "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a few months ago, but i'm > sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps i should use the term > "guitarists who are interested in interesting sounds that are generated from > their guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded > terms there, that could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever... > > i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of artists is > huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if there were some > other guitarists on there that others on the L-D site could recommend.... > was just curious... > thanks, happy looping.... > scott > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 19:02:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4BE3BF6C; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TDnkzlg2p3Nki7SzUvZQE5HWj8GXGgnwitJXekeHfb0=; b=c5HoQFCGqh5z6euo6evRrgTFR/fUcnlC5HT6J6/HWr4sHf1/lk+yTyLkbo7QVgOI40 ZBUu//+HmYjFhmO9YMY5mvnsPOIfPqeVtKD4UurRf6vCwLkIfjdpEXRz8LCIefFHobRE 3n9VslVMzfvYgXsbbgiQpKQ2+syiwV2XT5Cgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GnRx9NRw/YrSITciGx0QDrJpFrU1g0P2MZqnIPnDYYiZcJSzLvLSs5kzk39Pn/M7mQ O3vocjTuquxlRMrEtjoxL1BdewSWXEptqBZGZfU+zk4uu7NB0K0NkWHV9KKxReQJpE/D PiRvQPy1WADNvSiNEbHYFKbugakWwlsDOGlA4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:02:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal and other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a way to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m On 8/20/09, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Steve Tibbets is always a personal favorite. > > Kevin > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:54 AM, scott hansen wrote: > > yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from the ECM > > label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between improvising > > guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had any other "out > > there guitarists" on their label . . . . snip! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 19:07:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BFF13BF78; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250795220; bh=Gqm3Wb913RDkWd6wLkFwVFypN9PAS1MH95U7i9glOQQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=51989cz2XgLtvjRv4vejK3dQ6r52BCgzGI6uZMFA0mZ7hLEfUKTOwIfUAHIHaQriLX+tWGU6X4A7UTz+XflUrE4o3ygY/hg7l2/0Nk85JUS/PgsdC3ATkZPvZYPS+7i4xsFQonmyUbiMjuhb31xmU0E0QU9qk02OBFKSTAP78a4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VOfqCK2BLPY1Io3x3IZ+Y9MTmcUJw1VdFDgBzmbiClShVFVbihkwAvDwkCwA7+d+eB2jNSACrzro3lS3QFJ1gMhLO7ru/F27eUaT/uQL8ZEuNXbplzFxOUxkaKbzMpsn8jvpk0OtVYJtrFg+bWKCT0hMlV2GFjmVc3V32HfRc2I=; Message-ID: <173316.71994.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c1aVKlYVM1mfqBj1CU94pSp5Fe8kYDJEMGRzk2usUDb6NgICzfFXstiuCkJBZ1RWzKrcA6e85.bXrTnUaT1eciZifS_O9IR9sMJSSAk912OihzGGSF3FLHiK62eSSQlcrhSs5TBTs1dhcN7Vkk8Wn7q9cCCJK2_5zRyzsOlI52FUi7x908n4HH3v4GaGm5r8BDkcKbmZ8Z1PH6wqrVTBpmz04eRPH8BmwY7DaZxj4hlKLgzjjkEuOmj1YYbdNJqeVNg4sO9kxnDpEThMXbm6ivsDOf5NWPcKoq4sVipEMnRDomkQVxEV4aSjRBSv2CnetHOiJkdta6DhqEplyshPEqPspb3O X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-675039994-1250795219=:71994" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:07:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-675039994-1250795219=:71994 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Not Torn-freaky, but Bill Frisell has=A0three ECM releases under his name -= In Line, Rambler, and Lookout for Hope - and managed to get the odd bit of= weirdness in there.=A0=20 =A0 And not to mention many more as a sideman (see=A0partial list here:=A0http:= //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frisell_discography; bigger list here: http://= www.bryanaaker.net/discog) =A0 Ted H. 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Ask a question on any topic and get answers= from real people. Go to Yahoo! = Answers. --0-675039994-1250795219=:71994-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 19:13:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E44623BF28; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xuo59riUoywtEV8jAAyx9+LPG2fvg8mPyVVH1aMPozI=; b=oy4KhqJsI1+baEicoTVyyEcFDJQkAgMhEq5yrjpSTmNDhtmSZBmG6BL2thsFNYfiRw e58idqcgNh8Mwblfr7mCrDVBIFowwOktGUGWsT8kMTDH9qCeecHLhOq14SeWx0wOJGre 9plm2//Pq4sTI4JISSEzzj3ojhBODPmTD9XJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hM2NaCtOqrzzSvkrHOIZKAVCsTo2qG73lm+MixmpoIZdq4Y2Y5S3qP3LrPLRHJN9yf xTvzIle6w6Boj4u0U/z01L5X1kvYuCHh1axtlz6qail0WBLg48+yhqagdi6eAxpGjM1U 4QiEZVEqYr03OGFHR5x/wEe1fPmV5HjY437is= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:13:06 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908201213j22cb7988nf2297ea28bd07269@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174762a4a6cf6f0471978a1e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:13:08 +0000 (UTC) --0015174762a4a6cf6f0471978a1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Totally agree on Steve Tibbetts. He has seemed to have 'disappeared' though in terms of new work, does anyone know anything about him. I still listen to Big Map Idea which is really old but wonderful, also Yr. Krispen played Terje Rypdal on his June Free Wav radio show http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/. Ralph Towner I also highly recommend, he's really an acoustic guy not lo9oping but wonderful improvisor on 12-string steel and nylon 6. Jim --0015174762a4a6cf6f0471978a1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Totally agree on Steve Tibbetts.=A0 He has seemed to have 'disappe= ared' though in terms of new work, does anyone know anything about him.= =A0 I still listen to Big Map Idea which is really old but wonderful, also = Yr.
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Krispen played Terje Rypdal on his June Free Wav radio show http://radio-boise-freewave.blo= gspot.com/.
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Ralph Towner I also highly recommend, he's really an acoustic guy = not lo9oping but wonderful improvisor on 12-string steel and nylon 6.
=A0
Jim
--0015174762a4a6cf6f0471978a1e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 20:18:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84A563BF68; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.37.167.176] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ECM guitarists? Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:18:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0486_01CA21A1.0EEB66C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2009 20:18:17.0999 (UTC) FILETIME=[5AE0F9F0:01CA21D3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:18:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0486_01CA21A1.0EEB66C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You got Terje, who is out of this world, but you MUST get everything = from John Abercrombie on ECM. He is probably my all time favorite = guitarist, so much so, that I had to stop listening to him, because = people were starting to make comments about similarities. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: scott hansen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: ? RE: ECM guitarists? yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd = from the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between = improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had any = other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out there" is = a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't really = want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a few = months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps i should = use the term "guitarists who are interested in interesting sounds that = are generated from their guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding = (and again, more loaded terms there, that could be debated = FO-ever)"...whatever... i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of = artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if = there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D site = could recommend.... was just curious... thanks, happy looping.... scott www.myspace.com/scotthansen =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0486_01CA21A1.0EEB66C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You got Terje, who is out of this = world, but you=20 MUST get everything from John Abercrombie on ECM. He is probably my all = time=20 favorite guitarist, so much so, that I had to stop listening to him, = because=20 people were starting to make comments about similarities.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 scott=20 hansen
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 = 12:54=20 PM
Subject: ? RE: ECM = guitarists?

 
Not Torn-freaky, but Bill Frisell has three ECM releases under hi= s name - In Line, Rambler, and Lookout for Hope - and managed to get the od= d bit of weirdness in there. 
 
And not to mention many more as a sideman (see partial list here:=  htt= p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frisell_discography; bigger list here: <= A href=3D"http://www.bryanaaker.net/discog">http://www.bryanaaker.net/disco= g)
 

Ted H.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner= Herzog

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo= .com> wrote:

From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>Subject: ? RE: ECM guitarists?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:54 AM

yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans= " cd from the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between = improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had an= y other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out there" is a= loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't really want to= use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a few months ago, b= ut i'm sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps i should use the term "g= uitarists who are interested in interesting sounds that are generated from = their guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded = terms there, that could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever...

i have lo= oked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of artists is huge, and i= didn't know where to begin, just wondered if there were some other guitari= sts on there that others on the L-D site could recommend....
was just curious...
thanks, happy looping....
scott
www.myspace.com/s= cotthansen

=
yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best = laid=20 plans" cd from the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the = interplay=20 between improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was = wondering if=20 ECM had any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i = know,=20 "out there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use = "adventurous", i=20 didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on = the L-D=20 site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), = or=20 perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are interested in=20 interesting sounds that are generated from their guitars that = aren't run=20 of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that = could be=20 debated FO-ever)"...whatever...

i have looked a few times = at the=20 ECM website, and the list of artists is huge, and i didn't know = where to=20 begin, just wondered if there were some other guitarists on = there that=20 others on the L-D site could recommend....
was just=20 curious...
thanks, happy=20 = looping....
scott
www.myspace.com/scotthansen

------=_NextPart_000_0486_01CA21A1.0EEB66C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 20:24:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C23F3BF75; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_q3c4ZwAjO4OIsVnQtxKl3g)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ECM guitarists? Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:24:01 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_q3c4ZwAjO4OIsVnQtxKl3g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT If you listen to Terje, David Torn, and Frisell there are also some striking similarites between them when they were on ECM. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Krispen Hartung To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: ECM guitarists? You got Terje, who is out of this world, but you MUST get everything from John Abercrombie on ECM. He is probably my all time favorite guitarist, so much so, that I had to stop listening to him, because people were starting to make comments about similarities. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: scott hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: ? RE: ECM guitarists? yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are interested in interesting sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever... i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D site could recommend.... was just curious... thanks, happy looping.... scott www.myspace.com/scotthansen --Boundary_(ID_q3c4ZwAjO4OIsVnQtxKl3g) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
If you listen to Terje, David Torn, and Frisell there are also some striking similarites between them when they were on ECM.
 
t
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: ECM guitarists?

You got Terje, who is out of this world, but you MUST get everything from John Abercrombie on ECM. He is probably my all time favorite guitarist, so much so, that I had to stop listening to him, because people were starting to make comments about similarities.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:54 PM
Subject: ? RE: ECM guitarists?

yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are interested in interesting sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever...

i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D site could recommend....
was just curious...
thanks, happy looping....
scott
www.myspace.com/scotthansen

--Boundary_(ID_q3c4ZwAjO4OIsVnQtxKl3g)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 20:31:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF6693BF7A; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6RVPVbEjKClajG2apgjELWNMuDhkKFRfuwVvw1vQQbs=; b=ktTepv/h4XkK/uGUxAFLjqeGxeH7SSM8H0iqYPOeBQ+jfKpmsQql+/RM5LygNlbJ+W PRd0fFK8dRZdktbG+tBPbgA4lOKFrK5RqxVrehuAamq65wxN932q41GKM5QjevX5trn6 Mal3dxqA37Cy2L2ie33oz4skMjTp/X3nqazm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=P9zBP4qzg5kSTf+PYNrh42le9FWu838YuC5lSFTKA6SG+yPA69+VYXEYCezwy0HfP+ mZNaE5OPwRLVgDmsXd3wDn3PBjfCXSwLGgA1oX5E6zwCND5Rdya4LVbJ+xXmdvDOPe0d 6p+ytAhoJEvxVcCkd27byXoxWETdISMG+R67s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908201213j22cb7988nf2297ea28bd07269@mail.gmail.com> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60908201213j22cb7988nf2297ea28bd07269@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:31:56 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4f2a70dc2b710c80 Message-ID: <37f071c00908201331k5c355f2cn480ba6c31bdc1ae5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Also, while not on ECM, I am really enjoying Eivind Aarset these days and would recommend you check him out as well if you haven't already (definitely more electronic than the ECM stuff, but very tasty). Kevin On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Totally agree on Steve Tibbetts.=A0 He has seemed to have 'disappeared' t= hough > in terms of new work, does anyone know anything about him.=A0 I still lis= ten > to Big Map Idea which is really old but wonderful, also Yr. > > Krispen played Terje Rypdal on his June Free Wav radio show > http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/. > > Ralph Towner I also highly recommend, he's really an acoustic guy not > lo9oping but wonderful improvisor on 12-string steel and nylon 6. > > Jim > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 20 20:49:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02F573BF7A; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090820154335.Z8JK1.134888.root@ispmxfep15-z01> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:43:35 -0700 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Cc: Kevin Cheli-Colando In-Reply-To: <37f071c00908201331k5c355f2cn480ba6c31bdc1ae5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: 67.141.30.144 X-Auth-IP: 67.141.30.144 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AN0JCeKguxIA:10 a=SAa56Na2AAAA:8 a=kpHFvfvXAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=3Bdxi7plt8OB2ec2q_kA:9 a=cV1cqTnnnZNqNINPDQGaDev-_K8A:4 a=Sfrf-_KrAt0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Abercrombe and Towner...They're all great. Raul Bjorkenhiem also had a couple of records on ECM that are better than O= K. An It must be mention that Derek Bailey was on a couple of early ECM record= ings, a duo with Dave Holland and a release by the MIC ( Bailey, Evan Parke= r, Jamie Muir, Hugh Davies and Christine Jeffreys..) ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:=20 > Also, while not on ECM, I am really enjoying Eivind Aarset these days > and would recommend you check him out as well if you haven't already > (definitely more electronic than the ECM stuff, but very tasty). >=20 > Kevin >=20 > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jim Goodin wr= ote: > > Totally agree on Steve Tibbetts.=C2=A0 He has seemed to have 'disappear= ed' though > > in terms of new work, does anyone know anything about him.=C2=A0 I stil= l listen > > to Big Map Idea which is really old but wonderful, also Yr. > > > > Krispen played Terje Rypdal on his June Free Wav radio show > > http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/. > > > > Ralph Towner I also highly recommend, he's really an acoustic guy not > > lo9oping but wonderful improvisor on 12-string steel and nylon 6. > > > > Jim > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 00:56:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 373F23BF7A; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=K7qdJLDCCvrPcciOgXiAy8EYsbtG9DQS3AaQCZbs5zg=; b=T7Qroth8dcM3MuAyBsjyfpQ5Uwn8/uaz5EFmsMHC8p7JiUmvx7IwmD3UaeYzBJJ5kB rvFzYEftVabrpTCM9hjwJeS8sAk8agLI7yce69sC1mPKxC5HNhmFfU2yyVQXOo+2dt6D nsmOvXmKh8+IVqlbCuong6dam7MmhiOBcYzko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jlOIeiABEITx0SayQ8WCBBUMemdO3iJFaxdDvuVDj6jRRHPub1kn3IRYmifYgFDbdA xF0ok+CSMEyxp9BwDA3ZYf57iolknyY/9pAf9Wqri90tG6YrvYH1nCHk9tM11V4QfIXZ 7FTVjneEq8bVEia2xoPqMmp3BWkdUjU64oJHU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <37f071c00908191135u76db34c7tdab58584c97fbe64@mail.gmail.com> <79BFBB39-F03D-4D92-B83E-A8B870355DB6@glasswing.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:56:32 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110908201756y148ac036rfdf864f19d64e09f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Touch Screen From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed6b8bd1846904719c56f2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:56:33 +0000 (UTC) --001636ed6b8bd1846904719c56f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are some interesting uses of touch screens here: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/23/ableton-live-multitouch-with-free-usine-why-multitouch-works-for-music/ Not all of them are multi-touch, by the way. I'm sure even a lower resolution screen such as these Mimo screens could be used as a simple dedicated controller rather than as a direct interface to control the application. That being said, $230 does seem a little steep - I suspect one might be better off spending a little more for an ipod touch and taking advantage of the many control surface applications available for it. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Before you spend your money, do take note of the screen resolution: > it's roughly 800x400, which is pretty much unusable on anything > smaller than a 9" screen...that means Logic, Live, Garage Band are NOT > going to display anywhere near "properly" if you want to use it in a > "live" setting ... FRO's experience may indicate a better solution: > look for a used unit on Ebay that will give you the screen real estate > you need. > > The folks who created the hack for the Dell Mini 9 to run Mac OS X > have a script that will readjust your screen resolution to make > software like Garage Band usable, but only barely ... it's a trade-off > of portability, price, and real estate. > > Sorry to be harshing your mellow, but there are a TON of compromises > to be made doing this; I'm still trying to sort out a working solution > for using a pair of netbooks for live looping even now ... > > Good luck! > > Dennis > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:26 AM, richard sales > wrote: > > really cool! let me know if anyone gets on and uses it on a Mac > > richard sales > > www.glasswing.com > > www.richardsales.com > > www.hayleysales.com > > On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > > > This might be a nice way to add a touch screen to your computer set up > > ($230 doesn't seem too bad or is it?) > > > > http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-720-S > > > > Kevin > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > --001636ed6b8bd1846904719c56f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are some interesting uses of touch screens here: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/23/able= ton-live-multitouch-with-free-usine-why-multitouch-works-for-music/

Not all of them are multi-touch, by the way.

I'm sure even a= lower resolution screen such as these Mimo screens could be used as a simp= le dedicated controller rather than as a direct interface to control the ap= plication. That being said, $230 does seem a little steep - I suspect one m= ight be better off spending a little more for an ipod touch and taking adva= ntage of the many control surface applications available for it.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Dennis Mos= er <sinsofm= achaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Before you spend your money, do take note of the screen resolution:
it's roughly 800x400, which is pretty much unusable on anything
smaller than a 9" screen...that means Logic, Live, Garage Band are NOT=
going to display anywhere near "properly" if you want to use it i= n a
"live" setting ... FRO's experience may indicate a better sol= ution:
look for a used unit on Ebay that will give you the screen real estate
you need.

The folks who created the hack for the Dell Mini 9 to run Mac OS X
have a script that will readjust your screen resolution to make
software like Garage Band usable, but only barely ... it's a trade-off<= br> of portability, price, and real estate.

Sorry to be harshing your mellow, but there are a TON of compromises
to be made doing this; I'm still trying to sort out a working solution<= br> for using a pair of netbooks for live looping even now ...

Good luck!

Dennis

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:26 AM, richard sales<richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> really cool! let me know if anyone gets on and uses it on a Mac
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.c= om
> www.richards= ales.com
> www.hayleysal= es.com
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>
> This might be a nice way to add a touch screen to your computer set up=
> ($230 doesn't seem too bad or is it?)
>
> http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-720-S
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 03:43:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64B833BF05; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date:references :x-mailer; bh=h7RZEyVMB8qNURCOMI1JV6fynoLTumODgtHqDwDabQ8=; b=OUrVoFqi12fVR/lcuSwDqlvjf1znPuJ9pVFYn0S+dy87170Ya+A5uRPI9qwx/qdry/ YZUCC/Uzwy3k5ttyhj3IefRXvMBnkMcxRuQFbdDadCrQAIx/gD3+qr3RYgGnmzfbww4Z T/im2kFGKciFbiDpvm4GPr8KcEiTJmBYIrMq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:x-priority :date:references:x-mailer; b=pDHCoSnhCq79PI9Y/a2armNrxtf+1nNVdv64v2XQNxoRz/fYp6uXHc4fHYPKu1vRs3 lStk7oetgndzQb4BgpEG9WagtJ7pehflSFWlVOGmb9kc8He2lOzJm3a7kS+BjyyJKoDJ n9+WiBO3PmIILyNqB7sdFPiM7YrLJXcSyTit4= Message-Id: <83316844-E2F5-4AE6-8EAD-1A8BAA95F63C@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--211414084 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Fwd: ? RE: ECM guitarists? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:43:29 -0300 References: <6389F237-FA3B-46C3-AF34-ECBBB48F9C77@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <1AoySB.A.JDB.nfhjKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:43:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--211414084 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry i'm sending another mail to the list but after i send the other =20= one, i proceed to re-listen the disc i just recommended. Wow... real =20 worth the trouble of finding it. Don't know much about the trumpet =20 player either but it's a beautiful tone that needs to be heard! it =20 remminds me a little about my favourite trumpet (and flugel) player, =20 kenny wheeler. very best, Ariel. Inicio del mensaje reenviado: > De: Ariel Rzezak > Fecha: 21 de agosto de 2009 0:36:49 GMT-03:00 > Para: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Asunto: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > > i don't know much about him but a record that strucked me as a =20 > wonderful surprise was Jacob Young's Evening Falls (ECM, 2004). > > Real beautiful acoustic guitar playing. Nice ensemble too! > > Very best from Argentina, Ariel. > > El 20/08/2009, a las 17:43, escribi=F3: > >> Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Abercrombe and Towner...They're all great. >> >> Raul Bjorkenhiem also had a couple of records on ECM that are =20 >> better than OK. >> >> >> >> An It must be mention that Derek Bailey was on a couple of early =20 >> ECM recordings, a duo with Dave Holland and a release by the MIC =20 >> ( Bailey, Evan Parker, Jamie Muir, Hugh Davies and Christine =20 >> Jeffreys..) >> ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >>> Also, while not on ECM, I am really enjoying Eivind Aarset these =20 >>> days >>> and would recommend you check him out as well if you haven't already >>> (definitely more electronic than the ECM stuff, but very tasty). >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jim = Goodin>> > wrote: >>>> Totally agree on Steve Tibbetts. He has seemed to have =20 >>>> 'disappeared' though >>>> in terms of new work, does anyone know anything about him. I =20 >>>> still listen >>>> to Big Map Idea which is really old but wonderful, also Yr. >>>> >>>> Krispen played Terje Rypdal on his June Free Wav radio show >>>> http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/. >>>> >>>> Ralph Towner I also highly recommend, he's really an acoustic guy =20= >>>> not >>>> lo9oping but wonderful improvisor on 12-string steel and nylon 6. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --=20 >>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to =20 >>> have a >>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all =20= >>> trouble. >>> >>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>> >>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-1--211414084 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry i'm sending another mail = to the list but after i send the other one, i proceed to re-listen the = disc i just recommended. Wow... real worth the trouble of finding it. = Don't know much about the trumpet player either but it's a beautiful = tone that needs to be heard! it remminds me a little about my favourite = trumpet (and flugel) player, kenny = wheeler. 

    very best, = Ariel. 

    Inicio del mensaje reenviado:

    De: Ariel = Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com>
    Fecha: = 21 de agosto de 2009 0:36:49 GMT-03:00
    Asunto: Re: ? RE: ECM = guitarists?
    dohol1@windstream.net> = escribi=F3:

    Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, = Abercrombe and Towner...They're all great.

    Raul = Bjorkenhiem also had a couple of records on ECM that are better than = OK.



    An It must be = mention that Derek Bailey was on a couple of early ECM recordings, a duo = with Dave Holland and a release by the MIC ( Bailey, Evan Parker, Jamie = Muir, Hugh Davies and Christine Jeffreys..)
    ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando <kevin@minds-eye.org> = wrote:
    Also, while not on ECM, I am really enjoying Eivind Aarset = these days
    and would recommend you check = him out as well if you haven't = already
    (definitely more electronic than the ECM stuff, but very = tasty).

    Kevin

    On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:13 = PM, Jim Goodin<jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:
    Totally agree on Steve Tibbetts. =  He has seemed to have 'disappeared' = though
    in = terms of new work, does anyone know anything about him.  I still = listen
    to Big = Map Idea which is really old but wonderful, also = Yr.

    Krispen = played Terje Rypdal on his June Free Wav radio = show
    http://radio-boise-free= wave.blogspot.com/.

    Ralph = Towner I also highly recommend, he's really an acoustic guy = not
    lo9oping= but wonderful improvisor on 12-string steel and nylon = 6.

    Jim




    -- =
    Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body = and to have a
    form. That is the primal = ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble.

    - Ramana Maharshi = (1879-1950)

    Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
    Video http://www.vimeo.com/user8= 77640/videos




    = --Apple-Mail-1--211414084-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 03:45:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ECDE3BF5A; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:45:06 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; bh=no8a2QjH6UNecUk/BFs6pxxrjTII7WpSl0g+ANbHMF0=; b=wYDzWo/LoMWme9PD7iPuPnMIy5oAbJu5t4jIf57L8stpp4GcCBAGyKdHUTyn7hR0vb vFLN9axMLs/Zprza0+MaZz/N3BcJNfbNNfh+o1pGA5LZPGILAnBLIZXAsfE1h2wYK7Ov utIpj+qMGYoXjyeMtONcSRl/2OKxyhk6AfAd0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date :references:x-mailer; b=gn+de//Ba3/vF+JuhbRn37ch6UX4VbM4NJhYtM3yv8y7D7UPQKVKAGAJ8l5pLVRhYV gn0uL/wuE38ayekM5wo0KPS8dGnFubQbSegaRmEDFnkHG1TmhkHNIoVAiLsC891xH60m MvWXzicZ4Wtef0zAizsnfpV6LtGeN9ElwZaCA= Message-Id: <6389F237-FA3B-46C3-AF34-ECBBB48F9C77@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090820154335.Z8JK1.134888.root@ispmxfep15-z01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:36:49 -0300 References: <20090820154335.Z8JK1.134888.root@ispmxfep15-z01> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:45:06 +0000 (UTC) i don't know much about him but a record that strucked me as a =20 wonderful surprise was Jacob Young's Evening Falls (ECM, 2004). Real beautiful acoustic guitar playing. Nice ensemble too! Very best from Argentina, Ariel. El 20/08/2009, a las 17:43, escribi=F3: > Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Abercrombe and Towner...They're all great. > > Raul Bjorkenhiem also had a couple of records on ECM that are better =20= > than OK. > > > > An It must be mention that Derek Bailey was on a couple of early ECM =20= > recordings, a duo with Dave Holland and a release by the MIC =20 > ( Bailey, Evan Parker, Jamie Muir, Hugh Davies and Christine =20 > Jeffreys..) > ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >> Also, while not on ECM, I am really enjoying Eivind Aarset these days >> and would recommend you check him out as well if you haven't already >> (definitely more electronic than the ECM stuff, but very tasty). >> >> Kevin >> >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jim =20 >> Goodin wrote: >>> Totally agree on Steve Tibbetts. He has seemed to have =20 >>> 'disappeared' though >>> in terms of new work, does anyone know anything about him. I =20 >>> still listen >>> to Big Map Idea which is really old but wonderful, also Yr. >>> >>> Krispen played Terje Rypdal on his June Free Wav radio show >>> http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/. >>> >>> Ralph Towner I also highly recommend, he's really an acoustic guy =20= >>> not >>> lo9oping but wonderful improvisor on 12-string steel and nylon 6. >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >> >> >> --=20 >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to =20 >> have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all =20 >> trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 04:15:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C67E93BF5C; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7AmAa2OnW9YqX3650pasOPVD/QFDgCyIdhDN4tStOH0=; b=E77m7+cZpQCWW6TxfNao3VJbLgCeNsIDyrH4j8BKVB77TdFDDobd32rDfFBbpl30zM g6HYJ7CnwEe6pJD0dy458PNj5yDqWaqDyooYV1ylwfqfSAPQjSnoAl7oa0GvZuPpjnsK /f2oeFvtMpkDwo27O4CZk0SH8jLbDNzfirgvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=inKBFL0NfHa/VIdS+XGGl+CaI+XPAD/LmfTsdeex5kwU5l2BSUczk5Wh+3O3R3SnJG 5MGpu62eR1GVpX338pDQIkG293ygndltS3QSa8pjsnqYdHuFXI/s5PaRg5uh6FrSBj8B fSx6S57lP1kwxXovFjcvHxLs1eYSUiMBRcqwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83316844-E2F5-4AE6-8EAD-1A8BAA95F63C@gmail.com> References: <6389F237-FA3B-46C3-AF34-ECBBB48F9C77@gmail.com> <83316844-E2F5-4AE6-8EAD-1A8BAA95F63C@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:15:47 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908202115t52cd3553s800c67ac40131289@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:15:48 +0000 (UTC) OK, here is _the_ quintessential, out there, ECM guitarist: Harry Pepl Never heard of him? Neither had I. He was Austrian, and sadly died in 2005 at the age of 60. His ECM album "cracked mirrors" is a wonderful example of ECM's avant garde output, and was recorded in 1987 with Herbert Joos and Jon Christensen . It's long out of print, and I only came across it at kinebees blog: http://kinebeeszounds.blogspot.com/search/label/harry%20pepl Anybody else out there heard this album? -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 04:24:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 449183BF76; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hVP+IFA94BmYikvFci0pICzgdPXbmOXMP4wOekqXHUE=; b=MjLvToctG/3Ghch4B/RCLX7d2/A5OY8vEp3UGK/l5vPW0S71p0iM/U1ldThlaFOLZV fRVOhDgIX3ct35fRu9XjQvktmCiJT4/70opax9q6IGxY7QyWa68+W8f51BDCSocx/xrt zK5Hy7elEhI/cpx3Q0X+2tbA1L4ANc1M1jgMA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CPwO+nwe+Fcfi/ciSQpMWE4Qfz6tz8/p4j6PPwn6o1vcT1+gv2rdv2kgWkKf/4j/iz aOZsm2rd1cZPQsYBTrmrZDz/7OGskCtIh9ySrbBYebBPO69lF+B26IRqR6Iho17s9kaP YEmfbOiv8T7JAe8b2yuLYZ8OFRu2ViNJntCHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0908202115t52cd3553s800c67ac40131289@mail.gmail.com> References: <6389F237-FA3B-46C3-AF34-ECBBB48F9C77@gmail.com> <83316844-E2F5-4AE6-8EAD-1A8BAA95F63C@gmail.com> <588ce11d0908202115t52cd3553s800c67ac40131289@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:10 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908202124w175fc759u21901b0f43d41f80@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:24:11 +0000 (UTC) OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not ECM, but on ECM's ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been An Ordinary Enough Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually bought this one when it came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing here is stellar, and it's an all time favorite. Again, another long out-of-print impossible to find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere: http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough-day-in.html I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes this one. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 04:37:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 326113BF91; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=w3H8072oKf94tTJuiDh5Sm138CSCFlE/sxiCv3a4JPw=; b=eyAYM5tp8A+zCmofkNeu/Y5Of3EA6WGSZ8eazZnnLxjlu1fLm5eHGutEB8NbnRfUXP XLeDxbcRxXRPimeA4vdNMj2ETho5gQQhdUVUPcO9aswL/JC3dFrPtjJohuxdm0PCs6Bk 5YMj6t++/a3ZembctzrfCkUGlQhBkyGyZB7jM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qVKTKqX2pLXBngLxm7C9ohVvVE56m8di1SXB0TuNL2bah9WcEP3lrGkCMjHKBGgjD9 GSj2Ghdq92NJqcvtUqD/4syIQPX/zAf2oNjSOpA3jDRqyLr/PpAHY53uIHSJB5Cv72yj OSkWaxmKw6gEZirFpapzLF66T4h1lUzlbHwIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6389F237-FA3B-46C3-AF34-ECBBB48F9C77@gmail.com> References: <20090820154335.Z8JK1.134888.root@ispmxfep15-z01> <6389F237-FA3B-46C3-AF34-ECBBB48F9C77@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:37:36 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908202137h7d992c06i41e0684a06031c78@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8GZOEC.A.e8D.QSijKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:37:37 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > i don't know much about him but a record that strucked me as a wonderful > surprise was Jacob Young's Evening Falls (ECM, 2004). > > Real beautiful acoustic guitar playing. Nice ensemble too! Thanks, I like it! An interesting contrast to ECM's releases from 20 years earlier. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 05:30:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD98F3BF8C; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=8zxQ34ki/iyb45Ee0EE7ScBuxH+gNgfDdUTkiQ/CfQg=; b=jYtpimpupMessE0HJb+ppmIMVJmyaPxeIYGAJP9x11R/sqLJi3h7795gdfUnxpjOA7 eof4nWb9alMWuxGHyTMyvBZ69i37CQIaiuh8Y4CKIhi3m0OquM27dPMBcqgU87s3YnoX QYADVELk4syEvktuQI5GmK/Qd8KvHE1DWHqfg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=TZA3RuzY6T93hImCRFGN3Fus2UFiJdsj4M7wmvHLuypVx8p5yTFBe9cnjzbi0VG5PD xPeAPPctak3xxvdTV63Rz8oyFWFq+jPUqcBeT8m0Tsf8dy3VjaLCDwo94PwEjiTdAisc VV8uld2FG+SC4awpFvrKltG07Z/o6QMZ3FFA8= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0908202124w175fc759u21901b0f43d41f80@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:30:50 -0300 References: <6389F237-FA3B-46C3-AF34-ECBBB48F9C77@gmail.com> <83316844-E2F5-4AE6-8EAD-1A8BAA95F63C@gmail.com> <588ce11d0908202115t52cd3553s800c67ac40131289@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0908202124w175fc759u21901b0f43d41f80@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <34hDVD.A.NpF.QEjjKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the link, Art. El 21/08/2009, a las 01:24, Art Simon escribi=F3: > OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not ECM, but on ECM's > ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been An Ordinary Enough > Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually bought this one when it > came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing here is stellar, and > it's an all time favorite. Again, another long out-of-print impossible > to find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere: > > = http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough-= day-in.html > > I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes this one. > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 09:24:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE2393BF8D; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q8iFHessY3Y7seQJYrnNzmwt/1gw0x7MNR9dN3x0EWk=; b=WZlLE3CZOaV7BR5pS2lc/r7GctAIN51Si+fXW4zZ4lBb00H0+segGrfZTn+cZ5II6w BXkd4u4EEhRqjg+Ldi/bE2FDInczHqNlVE20ccrfMXczxw49qotfUX41RE5XvpgWJAOg QRvTHFcVncJM9voYURdfU5ykMLzUaC4RWK5e0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lQ0q5GM0NwkFxMFg2wG5c6xy7kRVADxsE4/RutZzKNVp7YXpMeX3dFUgXGC6AYy1Lt sKx7Qyhuo5mvAlhtfIVv93F4L7pkn2MTYo+zLbV6slZa4N6GpOIwPDSaoWG0b7T9g4CA o90wdM81knE188TGKPnxdTo/O+4TZ5J8FJhh0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090820194536.9lsajtkwn4ccs0ow@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <20090820194536.9lsajtkwn4ccs0ow@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:24:36 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908210224q4fbad9b7w17f5d377223a9901@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: A Video and Text Interview with Alex Stahl - Max/MSP Looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Thank you for posting this interesting link! I've always perceived livelooping as "a time machine". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:45 AM, wrote: > Wonderfully interesting interview.. :) > > "If you hear an echo, or a loop, or a replay of something that you heard > earlier, you get into this whole business of playing with the perception of > time. That's probably one way of explaining why I'm so interested in music, > because I'm interested in how we perceive time. Sound is a great venue for > that because you can't really take sound out of time." > > http://www.cycling74.com/story/2009/8/18/9272/65720 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 09:51:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6BBE3BF8D; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:50:53 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 69.183.234.70 In-Reply-To: <173316.71994.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pjbmhb@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 44148-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CBF05C01249998-6D8-10BE7@webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: PJBMHB@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:51:08 +0000 (UTC) I think Lookout for Hope is one of Bill's best!! =3D-) PJ -----Original Message----- From: ditch wrestler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2009 3:06 pm Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? =C2=A0 Not Torn-freaky, but Bill Frisell has=C2=A0three ECM releases under his na= me=20 - In Line, Rambler, and Lookout for Hope - and managed to get the odd=20 bit of weirdness in there.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 And not to mention many more as a sideman (see=C2=A0partial list=20 here:=C2=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frisell_discography; bigger= =20 list here: http://www.bryanaaker.net/discog) =C2=A0 Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Thu, 8/20/09, scott hansen wrote: From: scott hansen Subject: ? RE: ECM guitarists? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:54 AM yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from the=20 ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between=20 improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had=20 any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out=20 there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't=20 really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a=20 few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps20i=20 should use the term "guitarists who are interested in interesting=20 sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't run of the=20 mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that could be=20 debated FO-ever)"...whatever... i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of artists=20 is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if there were=20 some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D site could=20 recommend.... was just curious... thanks, happy looping.... scott www.myspace.com/scotthansen ------------------------------------------------------------ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to=20 Yahoo! Answers. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 09:51:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E18703BF9C; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:51:16 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 69.183.234.70 In-Reply-To: <173316.71994.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pjbmhb@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 44148-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CBF05C0F82520A-6D8-10BEA@webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: PJBMHB@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:51:28 +0000 (UTC) I think Lookout for Hope is one of Bill's best!! =3D-) PJ -----Original Message----- From: ditch wrestler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2009 3:06 pm Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? =C2=A0 Not Torn-freaky, but Bill Frisell has=C2=A0three ECM releases under his na= me=20 - In Line, Rambler, and Lookout for Hope - and managed to get the odd=20 bit of weirdness in there.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 And not to mention many more as a sideman (see=C2=A0partial list=20 here:=C2=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frisell_discography; bigger= =20 list here: http://www.bryanaaker.net/discog) =C2=A0 Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Thu, 8/20/09, scott hansen wrote: From: scott hansen Subject: ? RE: ECM guitarists? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:54 AM yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from the=20 ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between=20 improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had=20 any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out=20 there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i didn't=20 really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the L-D site a=20 few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), or perhaps20i=20 should use the term "guitarists who are interested in interesting=20 sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't run of the=20 mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that could be=20 debated FO-ever)"...whatever... i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of artists=20 is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if there were=20 some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D site could=20 recommend.... was just curious... thanks, happy looping.... scott www.myspace.com/scotthansen ------------------------------------------------------------ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to=20 Yahoo! Answers. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 14:21:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 126B13BF92; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250864489; bh=kMZ1eQMvaQ5p1A3MOc/2TaLxD4QX4rvdbnR7c/ODnKg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BpnE+fT3fWvMpT3i5tweCqrXBcAMJDJRWDgND8cfCL+00Xrk5Ku7hiqMSeINOWyqyKoDCY6NsoOUOV7Ky0xCv/XlK7NYw+eh1jDLesJk9oKuuHBZsegdVEuIX6lJFHi43y7QemWt308o5Rb6T5KyK6DgLLgOr17I4oVokmTinkM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QjFWcyIm5Jr8fRmFjjQKxs7b+2/yVQJ6luuOSaKVKR4jCd+Tpd6Br1tJPMX8Zmi3tELRdNKitWYQzvco7TBODG/D8EvwxukBjdHZCtrFj/6MdHuM0Ex4T1Gobt2wtxRbh2bGJfH3uY9assOSvdIxuT8V1VkHfpo1lXRBlhKwg6I=; Message-ID: <828365.26467.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8wuc09UVM1mGy6vymmlFHy.kTPWVN5mSWAAax1TWfBRD2YCGuQBPQzGHuN36LLLwNQpYxHnGVUans1JGRcWRASaWhuXI_JIy7SdhLy6l74QT7K_O7zuTrqlHVN3wQUmQJ4We71xxBkB3aNRSj9fPdTyQxuTbf0rvKXUrPoxDHswbinfxrVRdjDtV8vmjsbUeCtV442DsoMfCg8Qe4cmMHmbx0KBxSsYZQCjl2p.7AqmamNIduoUGE14MyMmO4oUpuJZwhjBk5Hre00G7LxSgaLIXqJFru2vheigdPhC83YxE8GAtR4I7h_llo8hdwUSG4x6gcnpFCXTENAqEYoNtchcAyg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:21:29 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0908202124w175fc759u21901b0f43d41f80@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-106081463-1250864489=:26467" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:21:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-106081463-1250864489=:26467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I had the fortune to=A0attended=A0an Eddie Prevo= st workshop and have dinner with him afterwards=A0- and=A0my favourite is= =A0"Newfoundland".=A0 (since we're posting 'blog links, it's here - http://= bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundland.html) And "Duos for Doris" is very good=A0- Keith Rowe and John Tilbury (two long= standing AMM members, though Keith left after Eddie indirectly slagged him= in his last book). =A0 There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; though he's not the most visual gu= y, what with the guitar on a table and all that... ;-) =A0 I've seen=A0numerous=A0pics of Keith's set-up (which pretty much changes ev= ery gig) and I've spotted an=A0Boss RC-2 a few times.=A0 Now he seems to be= incorporating a laptop but I think he's still keeping a handful of pedals. =A0 As far as Eddie's recording, my vote's for his trio recording "The Virtue i= n If" =A0 Ted=A0 H Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Art Simon wrote: From: Art Simon Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not ECM, but on ECM's ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been An Ordinary Enough Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually bought this one when it came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing here is stellar, and it's an all time favorite. Again, another long out-of-print impossible to find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere: http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough-d= ay-in.html I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes this one. --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AConnect with friends from any web browser - no download required. = Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger= .yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php --0-106081463-1250864489=:26467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
     
    I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I had the fortune to attended an = Eddie Prevost workshop and have dinner with him afterwards - and = my favourite is "Newfoundland".  (since we're posting 'blog links= , it's here - http://bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundland= .html)
    And "Duos for Doris" is very good - Keith Rowe and John Tilbury (= two long standing AMM members, though Keith left after Eddie indirectly sla= gged him in his last book).
     
    There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; though he's not the most visu= al guy, what with the guitar on a table and all that... ;-)
     
    I've seen numerous pics of Keith's set-up (which pretty much= changes every gig) and I've spotted an Boss RC-2 a few times.  N= ow he seems to be incorporating a laptop but I think he's still keeping a h= andful of pedals.
     
    As far as Eddie's recording, my vote's for his trio recording "The Vir= tue in If"

     
    Ted  H
    Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

    --- On T= hu, 8/20/09, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:

    From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>
    Subje= ct: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists?
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comReceived: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM

    OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not = ECM, but on ECM's
    ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been An O= rdinary Enough
    Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually bought this = one when it
    came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing here is stella= r, and
    it's an all time favorite. Again, another long out-of-print impos= sible
    to find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere:

    http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02= /amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough-day-in.html

    I'd love to hear if= anyone else out there likes this one.
    --
    Art Simon
    simart@gmail.com
    myspace [dot] com/artsimon<= BR>

    =0A
    Be sm= arter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot w= ith the All-ne= w Yahoo! Mail --0-106081463-1250864489=:26467-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 14:33:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 129453BF29; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=uM0vGD9aazNJ186mYd4A:9 a=LJ8BcFUN1P-7E18_sYvELhvSJO4A:4 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:33:05 -0700 References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:33:11 +0000 (UTC) SH, Besides Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Towner, Metheny, Abercrombie, and other big names that had their recordings out under their own names, there are also discs by other musicians that have some of these same guys (and others) working as sidemen - where sometimes they do their best work, actually. Jan Garbarek (sax)- Torn and Rypdal have both worked with him. Eberhard Webber (bass) - Frisell has played with. John Surman (sax) - Rypdal has recorded with (as Nordic Quartet). Ketil Bjornstadt (keys) - Rypdal again. Paul Motian (drums) - Frisell got his start with him. Gary Burton (vibes) - Metheny early on Mark Johnson (bass) - Frisell and Scofield both (as Bass Desires) Nils Petter Molvaer (horn) - Eivind Aarset (on a number of CDs) I am sure there are other examples too. Enjoy! TK On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:54 AM, scott hansen wrote: > yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from > the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between > improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had > any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out > there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i > didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the > L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), > or perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are interested in > interesting sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't > run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that > could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever... > > i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of > artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if > there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D > site could recommend.... > was just curious... > thanks, happy looping.... > scott > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 14:39:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0E703BF9A; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=BioN57RFEWq+soEj3gVy8CeScnQeJziqXF2oVKzYIu8KCSlIyQWv0R6aULaaL/1QSHJjdpeNTpTJfOTM78rM6mcY41kfCEXRBrs3Q+trFB8uxI1VGUhONLTM4cZlFkSytgUu+SqkqFnxUFxfmdaeI1nazwoyBJ/6FBRYU7M7BTE= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: s79HnbEVM1kSjcZ3KckpFiDr5N5IhHQxiMqQqMwMfYRmHwK5i7xbK3Yi15mPSvVnZdKz8aCskN.sLyuU79WJvKO1REpBMt8WnZGAwec3JOiIiECaeiz6W0RBxp3ZXM.if6qBD7VKsVpwfnj_3BHVLld7l8.vJecq6yLuvG9Ut9jlmWzlqgN8EIH2mcw_St_OVnbxtphoa8Z0ES0SlK4fiYPGrFUIeJUr6g7zjWumGZu8fQSAtwa8r.BiZVXIQ9W_0Ii4xuKnpLrtXdVNAh2gtJeVZWjohdEig0DSUdWMGsWdPQEWUgLFR7NPfmLnU.CtIDF.bKsBcRvxbocgOPVGhW2s6f5zHpUylRdrcaavw5lmgJKuWQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: OT: Music Release for Motor Neurones Disease Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:39:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, Apologies for the blanket email, but all for a good cause. I'd appreciate if you could pass this on via whatever medium you deem fit. I have put together a release of old tracks from 2006. The proceeds of this release will be donated to the Motor Neurones Disease Association. Due to the few cases of MND every year in the U.K, the research is underfunded and the care services are understaffed. To date, there is no known cure. By giving generously, you are helping researchers and carers for MND throughout the UK. Donate/Buy the release here - http://shop.rickygraham.com There is more information on the organisation at: www.mndani.com You can make your own donations at: www.mndassociation.org/get_involved/donations/donations_form.html Thanks to everyone who have been involved in these releases over the last few years. Please share this blog entry via email, facebook, twitter, myspace, etc. and help spread awareness of MND. Thank you, Ricky Graham From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 15:51:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 214DB3BF99; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=w4p0dmhnIuVjzhb92L5BMEQuyrOoUjX5cg9U//LZRXI=; b=qNXm9Kj4kOU3aAaokU4E+I40ECY40qXl8PYmam+IWU1hJgat7DcN52nUKVx+SJNuIt uBkRzW8MlO6fphZ+u4fAFAid05WdjWIN+YZ0MtCKz5TALZnt2xqmKI1H3A7jQDZnl91X kbFWxEVX7HW+V/LwvmItUwG1vikLyRr6l4+ik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=qboaqfDLRC34L1zeG6rqMPj8r4OY4WW9NIeQKneNhkJ5cyyalNvG3mpIJUdYfhJltb xvxPMqJ3GFp6kjFgy+/NS2wSfJRXDnLb04vCdy53Mz3BaP3IzkzWCy7dLBCVwXSHnPoi 3tmZeJrxZCCoOmw14sU6RW8+9FfuphRW724e8= Message-Id: From: eterogeneo To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:51:35 +0200 References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:51:53 +0000 (UTC) ....don't forget Egberto Gismonti who also released some of his work =20 with ECM, like "Magico" with Jan Garbarek and Charlie Haden...truly =20 magic music... Fabio www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 21/ago/2009, alle ore 16.33, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn = ha scritto: > SH, > > Besides Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Towner, Metheny, Abercrombie, and =20 > other big names that had their recordings out under their own names, =20= > there are also discs by other musicians that have some of these same =20= > guys (and others) working as sidemen - where sometimes they do their =20= > best work, actually. > > Jan Garbarek (sax)- Torn and Rypdal have both worked with him. > > Eberhard Webber (bass) - Frisell has played with. > > John Surman (sax) - Rypdal has recorded with (as Nordic Quartet). > > Ketil Bjornstadt (keys) - Rypdal again. > > Paul Motian (drums) - Frisell got his start with him. > > Gary Burton (vibes) - Metheny early on > > Mark Johnson (bass) - Frisell and Scofield both (as Bass Desires) > > Nils Petter Molvaer (horn) - Eivind Aarset (on a number of CDs) > > I am sure there are other examples too. > > Enjoy! > > TK > > On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:54 AM, scott hansen wrote: > >> yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from =20= >> the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between =20 >> improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM =20 >> had any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, =20 >> "out there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", =20= >> i didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on =20 >> the L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i =20 >> mean.....), or perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are =20 >> interested in interesting sounds that are generated from their =20 >> guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding (and again, more =20 >> loaded terms there, that could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever... >> >> i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of =20 >> artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if =20= >> there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D =20 >> site could recommend.... >> was just curious... >> thanks, happy looping.... >> scott >> www.myspace.com/scotthansen >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 17:25:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 562343BF99; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20564.72.22.1250875544.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:25:44 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Another for Marc Johnson. Love Pat and Bill on Marc's album. "The Sound of Summer Running" This had a the prime spot in my CD player for a couple years. http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa Andre On Fri, August 21, 2009 10:33 am, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > SH, > > Besides Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Towner, Metheny, Abercrombie, and other > big names that had their recordings out under their own names, there > are also discs by other musicians that have some of these same guys > (and others) working as sidemen - where sometimes they do their best > work, actually. > > Jan Garbarek (sax)- Torn and Rypdal have both worked with him. > > Eberhard Webber (bass) - Frisell has played with. > > John Surman (sax) - Rypdal has recorded with (as Nordic Quartet). > > Ketil Bjornstadt (keys) - Rypdal again. > > Paul Motian (drums) - Frisell got his start with him. > > Gary Burton (vibes) - Metheny early on > > Mark Johnson (bass) - Frisell and Scofield both (as Bass Desires) > > Nils Petter Molvaer (horn) - Eivind Aarset (on a number of CDs) > > I am sure there are other examples too. > > Enjoy! > > TK > > On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:54 AM, scott hansen wrote: > >> yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from >> the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between >> improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had >> any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out >> there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i >> didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the >> L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), >> or perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are interested in >> interesting sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't >> run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that >> could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever... >> >> i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of >> artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if >> there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D >> site could recommend.... >> was just curious... >> thanks, happy looping.... >> scott >> www.myspace.com/scotthansen >> > > From funtime@khushipromotions.com Fri Aug 21 18:53:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3745 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:53:52 UTC Received: from smtp.bizmail.net4india.com (smtp1.bizmail.net4india.com [202.71.129.104]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA433BF80 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [117.204.128.146] (helo=HP-AE66B83C9683) by smtp.bizmail.net4india.com with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1MeYGe-0005aq-RH for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:21:13 +0530 From: "funtime" Subject: Take break from your Work To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; charset=UTF-8; boundary="aH1YgKw1c=_ji1aBBZZxmiX8GI62rpi2ZN" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: funtime@khushipromotions.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:21:03 +0530 Message-ID: <265644459213482@hp-ae66b83c9683> This is a multi-part message in MIME format --aH1YgKw1c=_ji1aBBZZxmiX8GI62rpi2ZN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, We have large collections of free funny SMS Jokes on portal. 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    --aH1YgKw1c=_ji1aBBZZxmiX8GI62rpi2ZN-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 19:17:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F38423BF8E; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QH7+H1e21ukkIsWUxF5hW+M5n1uEkgrrKpYvUWL8QyI=; b=Pf9AWycxsufuzq9zH1i+Ujsr9u+ROA4H1ze/+iHxuKiOi7k7DChWtVPIoz9LZee7aB mAkrlqmnEOHkoBJMhBsdmbm/tnqKk3CiTonawuXtVpxFuc5w6I0xKQU32ZSzv7leJ48I CbEDcw9l5vNOJ4QPoFJGlPdv9FDhQ5kFZFxho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Nhf05VDXu6fPrxlCEJb6HxYFGo5bnqBhwgot1oSQgjwNkbHuqqJkZsutCdDbIKuzDI CF+nQTo4UxnoNzZADBbFc9+OoCVkizpYxJ0/RhaOcVYRwT00UfKk0QQO4ATK5T8x9zTh GSNUb70Tnmy5gsVgcZEbqT81jun+AJaeBS4Jg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:17:29 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908211217k186f7e42pc364b9e2a329280c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [Gig Info]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions this Saturday August 22nd, 1600 UTC From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:17:30 +0000 (UTC) I know, I didn't do it last time, as I was in Berlin two weeks ago without high-bandwidth internet access, but now... The MoinSound Studio Sessions are back! URL: http://justin.tv/moinlabs Date/Time: Saturday August 22nd 2009, 1600 UTC (for time zone conversion, see http://tinyurl.com/kruff8) Tune in for the latest in avantgarde madness, brought to your computer screen live via the internet. No registration necessary! Looking forward to see you there! Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 21 21:11:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B64483BF99; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6Z4x2QNG1UJHuZ01QC7A7KVnHCDqAY0rmlAQLxWMUC8=; b=PwYeVRUQJbADyK5ApqiuvxWwyPUNI52wCWG8yK6NcRQ0oQjSqUEXLs9Ko8CTt2GRUK Gm3Gl7bsAoFShL02FR87zJ7NtE6WsQd0o17eSpB4StU3lUXYd3QAs1MK5HY4CEbR12y9 vo77mHViiIAwsmo3RCcNzfGMXU8kztP/OQQqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eFBLwvlSfjxcP3JsA9pzxPz2q5AiGHph+mOQ3iuODIznmSojDVO5t+ZpmPtDSh4d4z +1jXBY4EbLd31CGC2x8JoAO5jjQli3QCl4p6LlxtIy97kL52ahBEskdx3QvjHvnkx2IX ZJUnyIVfdHU1ekMdZTt93IY5nttWVNR0UE+PQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:11:54 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908211411t40d3264amb6d15e80c650838@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Music Release for Motor Neurones Disease From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bf54853336a0471ad5150 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:11:56 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bf54853336a0471ad5150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ricky happy to support the need, I'll be doing similar next month I think for diabetes. This is a good set of material particularly like the opening moments of Music Box that's very 'tribal', Black Ice and Dream are also fav's so far. Best with this. Jim On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ricky Graham < rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > Apologies for the blanket email, but all for a good cause. I'd appreciate > if you could pass this on via whatever medium you deem fit. I have put > together a release of old tracks from 2006. The proceeds of this release > will be donated to the Motor Neurones Disease Association. Due to the few > cases of MND every year in the U.K, the research is underfunded and the care > services are understaffed. To date, there is no known cure. By giving > generously, you are helping researchers and carers for MND throughout the > UK. > > Donate/Buy the release here - http://shop.rickygraham.com > There is more information on the organisation at: www.mndani.com > > You can make your own donations at: > www.mndassociation.org/get_involved/donations/donations_form.html > > Thanks to everyone who have been involved in these releases over the last > few years. Please share this blog entry via email, facebook, twitter, > myspace, etc. and help spread awareness of MND. > > Thank you, > > Ricky Graham > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0023545bf54853336a0471ad5150 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ricky happy to support the need, I'll be doing similar next month I thi= nk for diabetes. =A0This is a good set of material particularly like the op= ening moments of Music Box that's very 'tribal', Black Ice and = Dream are also fav's so far. =A0Best with this.

    Jim

    On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 a= t 10:39 AM, Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote= :
    Hello all,

    Apologies for the blanket email, but all for a good cause. I'd apprecia= te if you could pass this on via whatever medium you deem fit. I have put t= ogether a release of old tracks from 2006. The proceeds of this release wil= l be donated to the Motor Neurones Disease Association. Due to the few case= s of MND every year in the U.K, the research is underfunded and the care se= rvices are understaffed. To date, there is no known cure. By giving generou= sly, you are helping researchers and carers for MND throughout the UK.

    Donate/Buy the release here - http://shop.rickygraham.com
    There is more information on the organisation at: www.mndani.com

    You can make your own donations at: www.mndasso= ciation.org/get_involved/donations/donations_form.html

    Thanks to everyone who have been involved in these releases over the last f= ew years. Please share this blog entry via email, facebook, twitter, myspac= e, etc. and help spread awareness of MND.

    Thank you,

    Ricky Graham



    --
    ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural
    www.my= space.com/CtReUse

    music links...
    www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
    www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
    www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
    ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
    www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

    video work/editing...
    www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

    social networking...
    www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 22 01:56:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF3843BF8C; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cV5WG85035bexbE6D0b6XTT4a4iwa0SS5AW8bbcN/8w=; b=k0xanH4SwtENjAmfbbMprFd2ZlNDPk4tiMNc93oXOtvuoNgqW28to1FYT7xqTkwJKW zfXCFNejEG/dbsNNk3KPc+3Mpm0GYs66kWD5aetceMjS9MClIiPOkYMErQ8AVDqDYb8D do8SZEejZd1TfpS7WQ4QiIqN8czuLYljTlUoc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BbJZKqtzV38zoeemdzJTmRbZJ392bYnAWsmsBnoPyUPqvvWfg1klZmXt0c7iOUrqfe jnuPiHYVUeZvkAN4BPeob+lyEcrC4npmCsWg7mp1UczloW8wc86reHCMMU1uXWKGfNMj 7QofRqMPJ2oG/GZ2UsqoszwsqAxzY9+R1EWGk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20564.72.22.1250875544.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20564.72.22.1250875544.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:56:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:56:35 +0000 (UTC) not in ECM but worth listening ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJHjuExoxvxI 2009/8/21, Andr=E9 Donawa : > Another for Marc Johnson. > > Love Pat and Bill on Marc's album. "The Sound of Summer Running" > This had a the prime spot in my CD player for a couple years. > > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > Andre > > On Fri, August 21, 2009 10:33 am, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> SH, >> >> Besides Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Towner, Metheny, Abercrombie, and other >> big names that had their recordings out under their own names, there >> are also discs by other musicians that have some of these same guys >> (and others) working as sidemen - where sometimes they do their best >> work, actually. >> >> Jan Garbarek (sax)- Torn and Rypdal have both worked with him. >> >> Eberhard Webber (bass) - Frisell has played with. >> >> John Surman (sax) - Rypdal has recorded with (as Nordic Quartet). >> >> Ketil Bjornstadt (keys) - Rypdal again. >> >> Paul Motian (drums) - Frisell got his start with him. >> >> Gary Burton (vibes) - Metheny early on >> >> Mark Johnson (bass) - Frisell and Scofield both (as Bass Desires) >> >> Nils Petter Molvaer (horn) - Eivind Aarset (on a number of CDs) >> >> I am sure there are other examples too. >> >> Enjoy! >> >> TK >> >> On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:54 AM, scott hansen wrote: >> >>> yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd from >>> the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay between >>> improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering if ECM had >>> any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i know, "out >>> there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use "adventurous", i >>> didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of that debate on the >>> L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you know what i mean.....), >>> or perhaps i should use the term "guitarists who are interested in >>> interesting sounds that are generated from their guitars that aren't >>> run of the mill sounding (and again, more loaded terms there, that >>> could be debated FO-ever)"...whatever... >>> >>> i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of >>> artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered if >>> there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-D >>> site could recommend.... >>> was just curious... >>> thanks, happy looping.... >>> scott >>> www.myspace.com/scotthansen >>> >> >> > > > > > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 22 03:49:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A6563BF81; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A8F6BA2.1000902@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:53:06 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:49:43 +0000 (UTC) tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > SH, > > Besides Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Towner, Metheny, Abercrombie, and other > big names that had their recordings out under their own names, there are > also discs by other musicians that have some of these same guys (and > others) working as sidemen - where sometimes they do their best work, > actually. > > Jan Garbarek (sax)- Torn and Rypdal have both worked with him. Frisell also recorded with Garbarek; the album was "Wayfarer." 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RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:59:17 -0300 References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Absolutely! Magico and (don't forget) Folk Songs. El 21/08/2009, a las 12:51, eterogeneo escribi=F3: > ....don't forget Egberto Gismonti who also released some of his work =20= > with ECM, like "Magico" with Jan Garbarek and Charlie Haden...truly =20= > magic music... > > Fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > Il giorno 21/ago/2009, alle ore 16.33, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = > ha scritto: > >> SH, >> >> Besides Rypdal, Torn, Frisell, Towner, Metheny, Abercrombie, and =20 >> other big names that had their recordings out under their own =20 >> names, there are also discs by other musicians that have some of =20 >> these same guys (and others) working as sidemen - where sometimes =20 >> they do their best work, actually. >> >> Jan Garbarek (sax)- Torn and Rypdal have both worked with him. >> >> Eberhard Webber (bass) - Frisell has played with. >> >> John Surman (sax) - Rypdal has recorded with (as Nordic Quartet). >> >> Ketil Bjornstadt (keys) - Rypdal again. >> >> Paul Motian (drums) - Frisell got his start with him. >> >> Gary Burton (vibes) - Metheny early on >> >> Mark Johnson (bass) - Frisell and Scofield both (as Bass Desires) >> >> Nils Petter Molvaer (horn) - Eivind Aarset (on a number of CDs) >> >> I am sure there are other examples too. >> >> Enjoy! >> >> TK >> >> On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:54 AM, scott hansen wrote: >> >>> yesterday i was listening to david torn's "best laid plans" cd =20 >>> from the ECM label (which i love that disc-love the interplay =20 >>> between improvising guitarist & percussionist), and was wondering =20= >>> if ECM had any other "out there guitarists" on their label (and i =20= >>> know, "out there" is a loaded word, i supposed i could use =20 >>> "adventurous", i didn't really want to use "experiemental" b/c of =20= >>> that debate on the L-D site a few months ago, but i'm sure you =20 >>> know what i mean.....), or perhaps i should use the term =20 >>> "guitarists who are interested in interesting sounds that are =20 >>> generated from their guitars that aren't run of the mill sounding =20= >>> (and again, more loaded terms there, that could be debated FO-=20 >>> ever)"...whatever... >>> >>> i have looked a few times at the ECM website, and the list of =20 >>> artists is huge, and i didn't know where to begin, just wondered =20 >>> if there were some other guitarists on there that others on the L-=20= >>> D site could recommend.... >>> was just curious... >>> thanks, happy looping.... >>> scott >>> www.myspace.com/scotthansen >>> >> > From jerry.ntai601@yahoo.com.hk Sat Aug 22 06:52:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ns1.sdcoe.net (ns1.sdcoe.net [198.133.204.2]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DE53BF7B; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns1.sdcoe.net (NS1 [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.sdcoe.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7M6n713014549; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:49:09 -0700 Received: (from apache@localhost) by ns1.sdcoe.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n7KL6OX2011749; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:06:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: ns1.sdcoe.net: apache set sender to jerry.ntai601@yahoo.com.hk using -f Received: from 196.1.179.242 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kenig) by webmail.sdcoe.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32940.196.1.179.242.1250802384.squirrel@webmail.sdcoe.net> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: AWAITING YOUR REPLY From: "MR JERRY NTAI" Reply-To: jerryntai601@yahoo.com.hk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5_2.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Good Day I am the Head of Operations in Mevas Bank, Hong Kong. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 22 08:18:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBAE53BF7E; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A8FA9E5.3090602@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:18:45 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:18:58 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, August 22 at 6:00 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 22 09:24:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06DB33BF85; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090822042324.5IQD1.156677.root@ispmxfep12-z02> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 4:23:24 -0500 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keith Rowe (was: ECM guitarists?) Cc: ditch wrestler In-Reply-To: <828365.26467.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: 67.141.18.235 X-Auth-IP: 67.141.18.235 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=A0ru0rJOEzIA:10 a=Ge1HZ0mD4w4A:10 a=bMbD7FHhAAAA:8 a=4xxxjfarAAAA:8 a=7fy6r--sAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=_n9x12rBpuRMpu1N2t4A:9 a=OY4cnXEnrBOLN0a62bYA:7 a=Lxy09lW1QLH8BppaMeVAutQcZsAA:4 a=ZSqPn8N-JRIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Here's a shot of the gear Rowe was using a few years ago.. http://home.att.ne.jp/theta/ny-jazz/keith_sc_03.jpg He's changed his set up again in the last year. I don't know what he's usin= g now.. ---- ditch wrestler wrote:=20 > =C2=A0 > I'm a bit of an AMM nerd - I had the fortune to=C2=A0attended=C2=A0an Edd= ie Prevost workshop and have dinner with him afterwards=C2=A0- and=C2=A0my = favourite is=C2=A0"Newfoundland".=C2=A0 (since we're posting 'blog links, i= t's here - http://bigfatsatanist.blogspot.com/2008/11/amm-newfoundland.html= ) >=20 > And "Duos for Doris" is very good=C2=A0- Keith Rowe and John Tilbury (two= long standing AMM members, though Keith left after Eddie indirectly slagge= d him in his last book). > =C2=A0 > There's a hanful of Keith up on youtube; though he's not the most visual = guy, what with the guitar on a table and all that... ;-) > =C2=A0 > I've seen=C2=A0numerous=C2=A0pics of Keith's set-up (which pretty much ch= anges every gig) and I've spotted an=C2=A0Boss RC-2 a few times.=C2=A0 Now = he seems to be incorporating a laptop but I think he's still keeping a hand= ful of pedals. > =C2=A0 > As far as Eddie's recording, my vote's for his trio recording "The Virtue= in If" >=20 > =C2=A0 > Ted=C2=A0 H > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >=20 > --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Art Simon wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: Art Simon > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM >=20 >=20 > OK, one more piece of out there esoterica. It's not ECM, but on ECM's > ugly sister label Japo, AMM released "It Had Been An Ordinary Enough > Day In Pueblo, Colorado" in 1980. I actually bought this one when it > came out. I think Keith Rowe's guitar playing here is stellar, and > it's an all time favorite. Again, another long out-of-print impossible > to find album, but it's out there on the blogosphere: >=20 > http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/amm-it-had-been-ordinary-enough= -day-in.html >=20 > I'd love to hear if anyone else out there likes this one. > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon >=20 >=20 __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the n= ew Yahoo! 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 22 10:26:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACCF63BF82; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=5AMXVrt7+tGmNAL8IMh1d1ITuMNf8Y72N1dNGSgkYa5265uJIrAh4bQL1hufkTOzv+vtGyfHMxZo2pZ/ow3OAY9ku9h4D5w5O18CIOrMjIWZhNtd9W7uL/o4ocMyYTrIvD2BTkEnRFhtqvxElLd4CMXja8brmLmeq8sCWjd86Vo= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: BdiI6KsVM1nN1TcixL4LzgQxXxF_pSebrCU0Qfe95H.gk11lTs0BKwA__krNxT6XkjpMgITFo13Cw3P.niGBGDidqaeHJ2LrfyPGRe.mHpbWqqGk5j9ebtBB3Z0f7wqbeFFiV2pNJ0MArvNJabocnY6LyWfwZi6KByX1_6mALp_jWaDFhETDCAFsuCSofz06Ls0whulf4oIecDgkMornxFa_vbSvjBb.V20SdNFBIl0oElWc.qhpUBcplH4NBme6WNw790ex60ifXZ_1.3EKwhR7sW7mPdhy7ZZzJWGOeJmcHYftbpWu2i6AaEvRR4qR.JrvliKgWb9nJM1jKlndMhyFIb8kvhCvd90- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <9e0440a60908211411t40d3264amb6d15e80c650838@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Music Release for Motor Neurones Disease Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:26:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA231B.72585080" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <71twq.A.c_H.vf8jKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:26:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA231B.72585080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim. Really appreciate your support and kind words. Take care, Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:11 PM Subject: Re: OT: Music Release for Motor Neurones Disease Ricky happy to support the need, I'll be doing similar next month I = think for diabetes. This is a good set of material particularly like = the opening moments of Music Box that's very 'tribal', Black Ice and = Dream are also fav's so far. Best with this. Jim On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ricky Graham = wrote: Hello all, Apologies for the blanket email, but all for a good cause. I'd = appreciate if you could pass this on via whatever medium you deem fit. I = have put together a release of old tracks from 2006. The proceeds of = this release will be donated to the Motor Neurones Disease Association. = Due to the few cases of MND every year in the U.K, the research is = underfunded and the care services are understaffed. To date, there is no = known cure. By giving generously, you are helping researchers and carers = for MND throughout the UK. Donate/Buy the release here - http://shop.rickygraham.com There is more information on the organisation at: www.mndani.com You can make your own donations at: = www.mndassociation.org/get_involved/donations/donations_form.html Thanks to everyone who have been involved in these releases over the = last few years. Please share this blog entry via email, facebook, = twitter, myspace, etc. and help spread awareness of MND. Thank you, Ricky Graham=20 --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2317 - Release Date: = 08/21/09 06:04:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA231B.72585080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Thanks Jim. Really appreciate your = support and kind=20 words.
     
    Take care,
     
    Ricky
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin

    ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01CA24C2.142A6AE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 20:01:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 195303BEE6; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=FKssxZVk+z93At1MZdsa69qaymIWnScq29PICy2tksE=; b=SIPPnyhxwUxp5hW6mpq0QOOmLbaWOzzFfLLcEvBB0HOuWdJJu/HykeO9ofYWymYiIf 6UnjmJPwG/+Zi8IHy8rCSPTjWq+/2Y1FoTdNwao5Rx699wT9c1ocATQxmQzjdMzQsoZ4 UUqiVvesSvwXpcZsUnLeV6kNiN+VE7p3wMb/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=A81cqKqSUAeeQE0Z1ElEzdF4DJX1KvVy45UUmVINIpY85CejE8oHM3N1OG6k+hgnwl Cq85ZywuKxuahdvEuiuamEte1IMWTm3yObe3CdJBCNkhqiZehmCCS8UfUslZ9VloD8Yg dbdjfJiQA+DDOieAbvWqnvhs36l0y49QeZtX4= Message-Id: <13EFF76E-B6A5-4381-B89A-DAAE965B97B0@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <17480112.1251090718403.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-47-106156491 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Favorite Loop Show of the Year Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:56:19 -0300 References: <17480112.1251090718403.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:01:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-47-106156491 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > well the band i work w/ MERMEN 's Jim Thomas does the most creative > looping(within a song). > he has two edps that he has setup to work in sync- outa sync - > separate-together, any configuration...and while he doesnt do > complete loop songs-alot of their tunes start w/ his loops. such as: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D-mBrYnYxU great, I did not know! place it in "Echolike Delays" at http://youtube.com/livelooping in this one, its a bit better visible, more loopy, but he stops rather cruedly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmpc11j7968 maybe there is a nother nicer one? or even with the EDPs or pedal visible? my last band before looping, GGroggy, arround 1982, sounded pretty similar, just that we improvised it all... and did not know of surf rock... --Apple-Mail-47-106156491 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    well the band i work w/ MERMEN 's Jim = Thomas does the most creative looping(within a song).
    he has two edps = that he has setup to work in sync- outa sync -separate-together, any = configuration...and while he doesnt do complete loop songs-alot of their = tunes start w/ his loops. such as:


    http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3D1D-mBrYnYxU

    great, = I did not know! place it in "Echolike Delays" at http://youtube.com/livelooping=

    in this one, its a bit better visible, more loopy, but he = stops rather cruedly:

    maybe there is a = nother nicer one? or even with the EDPs or pedal = visible? 

    my last band before looping, = GGroggy, arround 1982, sounded pretty similar, just that we improvised = it all... and did not know of surf rock...
    = --Apple-Mail-47-106156491-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 21:15:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BA513BEDF; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [76.103.252.64] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: "LoppersDelightMailingList" References: <46EFFFE4-FEC0-4EE3-B056-C6FC13F837D6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46EFFFE4-FEC0-4EE3-B056-C6FC13F837D6@gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP VG99 FC300 Problems Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:15:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_036B_01CA24C5.4CB2E470" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2009 21:15:32.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[03607040:01CA2500] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:15:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_036B_01CA24C5.4CB2E470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using a vg99 and am setting up a software looping rig with it. I've = learned a few things researching my own problems with the vg99. The vg99 = sends out a set of cc messages with each patch change. It sends: CC 6, = 38, 100, 101 repeatedly with each patch change. It's sending 35 total CC = messages with each patch change. It doesn't matter if it's the fc300 the = wheel or the pickup doing the work. These go out on its outbound MIDI = channel. It might be sending sysEx with this but I don't see that = monitoring the MIDI. If you've got something on any of these CCs it = might be your problem. Cheers, -Ty www.soundclick.com\tygermangrooveband From: Matthias Grob=20 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:47 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: EDP VG99 FC300 Problems that right, Andy! sorry, Fred, since we have a very old processor (like a Mac Plus!) in the EDP its =20 audio DSP part stops when it has to deal with Sysex. Usually thats not =20 a problem because Sysex is used to change parameters while not =20 playing, and a single command hardly creates an audible interruption. but if you send Sysex streams meant for other units to it as well, it =20 hicks up. to select different channels does not solve the problem, because it =20 needs to analyze the data anyway. Sysex does not differentiate =20 channels but IDs so I dont think it does much with the stuff you send =20 to the 99 anyway, but just to figure out that the data is not aimed to =20 it, takes proc time... I suppose you will have to either command the 99 some other way or =20 filter the Sysex stuff so it does not go through it or filter it in a =20 separate midi box between 99 and EDP... there are many options, =20 probably... good luck! Matthias On 24 Aug 2009, at 04:56, andy butler wrote: > > > Fred Fata wrote: > >> While in Control Change mode I record sound into the EDP, >> I return to Sysex mode and change patches on the 99 via the 300, >> an audible thump is heard in the recorded info in the EDP. > > that's the edp trying to deal with all those sysex commands. > > Are you using a different midi ch for the EDP? don't > know if that would help, but edp may not read the sysex if it's > on a different channel. > > You could try chaining 300>>99>>edp so edp doesn't get sysex, > but beware added midi latency. > > andy > ------=_NextPart_000_036B_01CA24C5.4CB2E470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I'm using a vg99 and am setting up a=20 software looping rig with it. I've learned a few things researching = my own=20 problems with the vg99. The vg99 sends out a set of cc = messages with=20 each patch change. It sends: CC 6, 38, 100, 101 repeatedly with = each patch=20 change. It's sending 35 total CC messages with each patch = change. It=20 doesn't matter if it=92s the fc300 the wheel or the pickup doing the = work. These=20 go out on its outbound MIDI channel. It might be sending sysEx with = this=20 but I don't see that monitoring the MIDI. If you've got something on any = of=20 these CCs it might be your problem.
    Cheers,
    -Ty
    www.soundclick.com\= tygermangrooveband

    Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:47 AM
    Subject: Re: EDP VG99 FC300 Problems

    that right, Andy!
    sorry, Fred,
    since we have a very = old=20 processor (like a Mac Plus!) in the EDP its 
    audio DSP part = stops when=20 it has to deal with Sysex. Usually thats not 
    a problem because = Sysex=20 is used to change parameters while not 
    playing, and a single = command=20 hardly creates an audible interruption.
    but if you send Sysex streams = meant=20 for other units to it as well, it 
    hicks up.

    to select = different=20 channels does not solve the problem, because it 
    needs to = analyze the=20 data anyway. Sysex does not differentiate 
    channels but IDs so = I dont=20 think it does much with the stuff you send 
    to the 99 anyway, = but just=20 to figure out that the data is not aimed to 
    it, takes proc=20 time...

    I suppose you will have to either command the 99 some = other way=20 or 
    filter the Sysex stuff so it does not go through it or = filter it in=20 a 
    separate midi box between 99 and EDP... there are many=20 options, 
    probably...

    good luck!
    Matthias

    On = 24 Aug=20 2009, at 04:56, andy butler wrote:

    >
    >
    > Fred Fata = wrote:
    >
    >> While in Control Change mode I record sound = into the=20 EDP,
    >> I return to Sysex mode and change patches on the 99 via = the=20 300,
    >> an audible thump is heard in the recorded info in the=20 EDP.
    >
    > that's the edp trying to deal with all those sysex=20 commands.
    >
    > Are you using a different midi ch for the = EDP? =20 don't
    > know if that would help, but edp may not read the sysex if = it's
    > on a different channel.
    >
    > You could try = chaining=20 300>>99>>edp so edp doesn't get sysex,
    > but beware = added midi=20 latency.
    >
    > andy
    >
    ------=_NextPart_000_036B_01CA24C5.4CB2E470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 24 21:45:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D5703BECC; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ZvoSjwz2FME8L5Z02I5jltV4lG9e/mo1HwK0lTwpVHZ7vYXPP70pVEgi4ghhPrgC; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <15842419.1251150338796.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:45:38 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Favorite Loop Show of the Year Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48e286b506d3b8cadd2b3e23d37105510a1ee4b264fab01f9d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.31 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:45:39 +0000 (UTC)
    Louigi,
     
    Cool layout at Disc-shelf!
     
    Just signed up!
     
    ~peace~
    plish

    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 09:19:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02C923BEC5; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A93AD45.4010003@het.it> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:22:13 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: [Fwd: Re: The Knot] Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090823-0, 23/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per
    Oh, yess, i'm still not very  practic with this toy...
    so i changed it...now is public!
    excuse me :-)
    tanks!

    Massimo


    Per Boysen ha scritto: 
    Hi Massimo,

I couldn't log in to listen because an error message said "this album
is private". Maybe you want to change that setting so people can
listen?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Massimo Liverani<liverani@het.it> wrote:
  
    talking about disc-shelf i signed up too
and i also loaded my live looping music,
you can listen to
http://www.disc-shelf.com/?album=130
Tnx!

Massimo Liverani (Max Liver)

mike@michaelplishka.com ha scritto:

Louigi,

Cool layout at Disc-shelf!

Just signed up!

~peace~
plish

    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 10:16:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B03A13BEC3; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A93BA91.7070800@het.it> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:18:57 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: The Knot] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------080605050400000402070501" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090823-0, 23/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:16:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080605050400000402070501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Hey Massimo!
    Great to know you are enthusiastic about disc-shelf! The album looks beautiful.
    As for the music - I am very much enjoying it! Gorgeous build ups and amazing
    mixture of sounds and notes.

    Louigi.

    On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Massimo Liverani <liverani@het.it> wrote:
    Hi Per
    Oh, yess, i'm still not very  practic with this toy...
    so i changed it...now is public!
    excuse me :-)
    tanks!

    Massimo


    Per Boysen ha scritto: 
    Hi Massimo,

I couldn't log in to listen because an error message said "this album
is private". Maybe you want to change that setting so people can
listen?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
    



On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Massimo Liverani<liverani@het.it> wrote:
  
    talking about disc-shelf i signed up too
and i also loaded my live looping music,
you can listen to
http://www.disc-shelf.com/?album=130
Tnx!

Massimo Liverani (Max Liver)

mike@michaelplishka.com ha scritto:

Louigi,

Cool layout at Disc-shelf!

Just signed up!

~peace~
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Antwerp Live Looping Festival 2010 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm just finished with the line up for the 2nd edition, scheduled for Mar= ch 6, 2010. To be honest, I was possitively surprised about the number of= requests I got of loopers who want to perform in Antwerp 2010. Which his= good because that means people are interested and still looping. But giv= en the fact it's a small festival, it also meant I had to disappoint a nu= mber of people. Anyway, we have changed things a bit, so we have 3 known = and 3 new artists programmed ranging from Ambient Jazz to Ambient guitar = drones: - Steve Lawson - UK - Dirk Serries' Microphonics - Belgium - Luis Angulo - Mexico - Signals Under Tests - Ireland - N - Germany - Sjaak Overgaauw - Belgium We also lowered the ticket price to 10,- Euro. I especially would like to= invite people from The Netherlands, Germany and Belgium to come to Antwe= rp: it's not far, there aren't any other live looping festivals planned y= et for early 2010 so this is your chance to meet live loopers and enjoy w= onderfull music. Please forward this message to interested people. Hope t= o see you :) All details can be found on the new website http://livelooping.be/ --- Sjaak Overgaauw http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://livelooping.be/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 11:26:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 366B63BECA; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fGmp97mT/BaDQ9QZchaSu5XcGIk3YEr7lY/no7Pqsh0=; b=Hm5DevLxVAnzPTWiLgeifK7RqLJYyA/0CvS0Fa0AB5tLgxVtnKiiSxm72ImEU/CoZp gBIk4IFZ2/dzTfWEUl8Qn8JgP9a+5hVqNm1NX0BTXz4sAYcP01/mlw/ij+YD1pTToklt WTHkJkypZvv1RAQPycTY3ys5C6AkgvtQL/yS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=CPmoS5tKtXKd7magGJJl2Gjbqzlwd4UGbw5rv85FqZ+NR4gfxt9/k0bBuYYyxS9Q9D EE2zoVB7NjzixNzjSfZ5Hs6ad9X/7xewBhtxaXf5KQS5GoUa9CHidg6c6/KVCp5l7v+q Oc+nuFQ1aDri6+V+c4wBA8M2oamKWTIxwf140= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:25:39 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fd89f297dd049cca Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908250425o16311e99u891fc8b4959c50b0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Which live streaming method is best? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c371c4398550471f59953 Resent-Message-ID: <0qWNF.A.cTD.Lp8kKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:26:04 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c371c4398550471f59953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The question is in the subject... Which live streaming method is best? I have a weird performance next week, where I will provide drones and soundsscape for a Bendir Player and Trumpeter That are located in Melbourne Austrailia to my Oslo Norway. I did suggest NinJam to them, but.. well they didnt wanna, and right now 5 dont have a PC running the server so I am always in danger of a Shredder screwing up our sensitive Improv(When I use apublic Server. I I suggested UStream, however, Im wondering if the sound quality (is is stereo? for example) is any good? My guys down under will be Live on stage with me projected via webcam... What other (free) systems might I try.. IT doesnt have to be that I can hear them... I will just provide drones that They will play to... Weird for me, but I will get to hear the recording afterwards... M -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c371c4398550471f59953 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The question is in the subject...

    Which live streaming method is bes= t?

    I have a weird performance next week, where I will provide drones= and soundsscape for a Bendir Player and Trumpeter That are located in Melb= ourne Austrailia to my Oslo Norway.

    I did suggest NinJam to them, but.. well they didnt wanna, and right no= w 5 dont have a PC running the server so I am always in danger of a Shredde= r screwing up our sensitive Improv(When I use apublic Server.

    I I su= ggested UStream, however, Im wondering if the sound quality (is is stereo? = for example) is any good? My guys down under will be Live on stage with me = projected via webcam...
    What other (free) systems might I try.. IT doesnt have to be that I can hea= r them... I will just provide drones that They will play to... Weird for me= , but I will get to hear the recording afterwards...

    M

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    www.markfrancombe.com
    http://vimeo.com/user825094
    http://uk.youtub= e.com/user/markfrancombe
    http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
    http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
    --0015174c371c4398550471f59953-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 12:53:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE7B03BEBE; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A93DF69.5020807@het.it> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:56:09 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christo Jota CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Knot References: <20aeede50908240131t1b20f01elde1fc0a3ec520c48@mail.gmail.com> <01d801ca24ad$6f0ebf20$0301a8c0@Toshiba> <20aeede50908240425v72b4da0et9405bec657807e3a@mail.gmail.com> <92A91A9A6F9544EC86EBF8BE2C4E7493@MichaelPC> <4A93A9EE.4030702@het.it> <018d01ca2582$47f9cd50$0201a8c0@Toshiba> In-Reply-To: <018d01ca2582$47f9cd50$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090823-0, 23/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Tanky you Christo...maybe is for the fact i live in Florence, and i spend some time
    in The tuscany coast (Maremma) :-)) ...so i'm very happy you like.
    They are live recorded and at the perfromance we estabilished a record:
    0 public! :-(

    Max Liver

    Christo Jota ha scritto:
    Reminds me of a warm breeze in the evening at the Tuscany-coast in Italy. Been there on vacation last year.
    Beautiful.
    (Loop 1)
    Very atmospheric ! I like it.
    Christo
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:07 AM
    Subject: The Knot

    talking about disc-shelf i signed up too
    and i also loaded my live looping music,
    you can listen to
    http://www.disc-shelf.com/?album=130
    Tnx!

    Massimo Liverani (Max Liver)

    mike@michaelplishka.com ha scritto:
    Louigi,
     
    Cool layout at Disc-shelf!
     
    Just signed up!
     
    ~peace~
    plish



    -

    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 12:55:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7679C3BEBE; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A93DFBE.3070505@het.it> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:57:34 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Knot Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------060002000300060901050605" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090823-0, 23/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:55:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060002000300060901050605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tanky you Christo...maybe is for the fact i live in Florence, and i spend some time
    in The tuscany coast (Maremma) :-)) ...so i'm very happy you like.
    They are live recorded and at the perfromance we estabilished a record:
    0 public! :-(

    Max Liver

    Christo Jota ha scritto:
    Reminds me of a warm breeze in the evening at the Tuscany-coast in Italy. Been there on vacation last year.
    Beautiful.
    (Loop 1)
    Very atmospheric ! I like it.
    Christo
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:07 AM
    Subject: The Knot

    talking about disc-shelf i signed up too
    and i also loaded my live looping music,
    you can listen to
    http://www.disc-shelf.com/?album=130
    Tnx!

    Massimo Liverani (Max Liver)

    mike@michaelplishka.com ha scritto:
    Louigi,
     
    Cool layout at Disc-shelf!
     
    Just signed up!
     
    ~peace~
    plish



    -


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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------060002000300060901050605-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 15:09:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24C9A3BEA9; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 142366 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:09:19 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=wFiSmhYCILdjVNhvFJy86IaGdPqgGJB48SBKN56STK4=; b=UmsrFI4P6d2s8e3hp38rICpS+m3hfTm85qUc4XnBMk/upsACzM/luhtosbWwrnhR45 JbbgA19A77cIJhV8gjySMD6YR4pSNwxbLR7A9bwMhQ+nSBVU2zl+v9xKkMZMuzFyRyAb 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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:33:43 -0400 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5H11a) Resent-Message-ID: <6rKjhC.A.baE.g6_kKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:09:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-173201071 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark my experience with ustream has been good though ive kept my feeds mono. Rainer and jeff have done stereo on ustream but i think their experience witth it has been better on justin.tv. The main thing you have to watch in my experience is to not ovedrive the audio to the server. Ustream has seemed sensitive in the past to the point that ive kept my master out at 11oclock. Sunday my loops got pretty saturated and i thought i was probably going to clip some but on pb things held up. Jim On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:25 AM, mark francombe wrote: > The question is in the subject... > > Which live streaming method is best? > > I have a weird performance next week, where I will provide drones > and soundsscape for a Bendir Player and Trumpeter That are located > in Melbourne Austrailia to my Oslo Norway. > > I did suggest NinJam to them, but.. well they didnt wanna, and right > now 5 dont have a PC running the server so I am always in danger of > a Shredder screwing up our sensitive Improv(When I use apublic Server. > > I I suggested UStream, however, Im wondering if the sound quality > (is is stereo? for example) is any good? My guys down under will be > Live on stage with me projected via webcam... > What other (free) systems might I try.. IT doesnt have to be that I > can hear them... I will just provide drones that They will play > to... Weird for me, but I will get to hear the recording afterwards... > > M > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --Apple-Mail-4-173201071 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Mark my experience with = ustream has been good though ive kept my feeds mono. Rainer and jeff = have done stereo on ustream but i think their experience witth it has = been better on justin.tv. The main thing you have to watch in my = experience is to not ovedrive the audio to the server.  Ustream has = seemed sensitive in the past to the   point that ive kept my master = out at 11oclock.  Sunday my loops got pretty saturated and i = thought i was probably going to clip some but on pb things held = up.

    Jim

    On Aug 25, 2009, at = 7:25 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:

    The = question is in the subject...

    Which live streaming method is = best?

    I have a weird performance next week, where I will provide = drones and soundsscape for a Bendir Player and Trumpeter That are = located in Melbourne Austrailia to my Oslo Norway.

    I did suggest NinJam to them, but.. well they didnt wanna, and right = now 5 dont have a PC running the server so I am always in danger of a = Shredder screwing up our sensitive Improv(When I use apublic = Server.

    I I suggested UStream, however, Im wondering if the sound = quality (is is stereo? for example) is any good? My guys down under will = be Live on stage with me projected via webcam...
    What other (free) systems might I try.. IT doesnt have to be that I can = hear them... I will just provide drones that They will play to... Weird = for me, but I will get to hear the recording afterwards...

    M

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    = --Apple-Mail-4-173201071-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 15:22:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4AD63BEA0; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:22:13 UTC X-Originating-IP: [74.232.117.64] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Jeff Baker Subject: EchoPlex Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:18:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:22:13 +0000 (UTC) I am a harmonica player and am looking for an Echoplex or a unit like one to purchase Any info would be appreciated Thanks, Jeffrey baker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 16:05:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF4ED3BEA9; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1251216306; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=R/nLVDh+0aX53G6Bbq0ZkKgRgOo=; b=Rr24cMT73AX2uDsg+/rCqQ6NOrm2krGJTSnXj/6Rnbb7x7WqbSRgwN0zf6XDGpOq NoSuhQGraIZKdrHXeprW05U+Pv4MO2nZuFbWHVjEYCxE68cWjNLCP8M1cdyAy41J; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IyNmnJsSXeAA:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=L8-3oVRxAAAA:20 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=m-WINnXHA1-myMz9dn0A:9 a=Dl_yGuYhGzeicoYK8LwA:7 a=aUVi-mHOI3-WjMfGcu8p_g6lIAsA:4 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=hq4V7V4COQqgxzTlevEA:9 a=Y5oKz8k7kxZk8z03StIA:7 a=TFF1EAH_9GLwZczsAxbyJEfUNccA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <005d01ca259d$cfcf8f60$8a872245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: Which live streaming method is best? Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:05:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA257C.488727F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:05:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA257C.488727F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is true Jim, except I use Ustream now, Rainer still uses justin.tv. = I use (and I think Rainer also) the FME (Flash Media Encoder) which may = be used with either service. It was a little tricky to set up but I get = plenty of headroom with it. It is stereo and you can choose quality = desired for audio and video. I use a 128kbs mp3 for audio. The FME has a = nice VU meter that shows your levels being input and I adjust with my = mixers output accordingly For that app be aware that there is about a 2 second delay between = inputing a note and hearing it on the broadcast. I never listen to the = broadcast while playing. Rainer and I have experimented some with this = and it works but kind of "Cage" like as he says! :) For droney stuff = it's pretty ok, even could be interesting. Best, Jeff "Was that too melodic?" _ Sonny Sharrock http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Which live streaming method is best? Mark my experience with ustream has been good though ive kept my feeds = mono. Rainer and jeff have done stereo on ustream but i think their = experience witth it has been better on justin.tv. The main thing you = have to watch in my experience is to not ovedrive the audio to the = server. Ustream has seemed sensitive in the past to the point that = ive kept my master out at 11oclock. Sunday my loops got pretty = saturated and i thought i was probably going to clip some but on pb = things held up. Jim On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:25 AM, mark francombe = wrote: The question is in the subject... Which live streaming method is best? I have a weird performance next week, where I will provide drones = and soundsscape for a Bendir Player and Trumpeter That are located in = Melbourne Austrailia to my Oslo Norway. I did suggest NinJam to them, but.. well they didnt wanna, and right = now 5 dont have a PC running the server so I am always in danger of a = Shredder screwing up our sensitive Improv(When I use apublic Server. I I suggested UStream, however, Im wondering if the sound quality = (is is stereo? for example) is any good? My guys down under will be Live = on stage with me projected via webcam...=20 What other (free) systems might I try.. IT doesnt have to be that I = can hear them... I will just provide drones that They will play to... = Weird for me, but I will get to hear the recording afterwards... M --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA257C.488727F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    This is true Jim, except I use Ustream = now, Rainer=20 still uses justin.tv. I use (and I think Rainer also) the FME (Flash = Media=20 Encoder) which may be used with either service. It was a little tricky = to set up=20 but I get plenty of headroom with it. It is stereo and you can choose = quality=20 desired for audio and video. I use a 128kbs mp3 for audio. The FME has a = nice VU=20 meter that shows your levels being input and I adjust with my mixers = output=20 accordingly
     
    For that app be aware that there is = about a 2=20 second delay between inputing a note and hearing it on the broadcast. I = never=20 listen to the broadcast while playing. Rainer and I have experimented = some with=20 this and it works but kind of "Cage" like as he says! :) For droney = stuff it's=20 pretty ok, even could be interesting.
     
    Best,
     
    Jeff
     
    "Was that too melodic?"
    _ Sonny=20 Sharrock
     
    http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
    http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/<= BR>http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke<= BR>h= ttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents    <= /DIV>
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 = 10:33=20 AM
    Subject: Re: Which live = streaming method=20 is best?

    Mark my experience with ustream has been good though ive kept my = feeds=20 mono. Rainer and jeff have done stereo on ustream but i think their = experience=20 witth it has been better on justin.tv. The main thing you have to = watch in my=20 experience is to not ovedrive the audio to the server.  Ustream = has=20 seemed sensitive in the past to the   point that ive kept my = master out=20 at 11oclock.  Sunday my loops got pretty saturated and i thought = i was=20 probably going to clip some but on pb things held up.

    Jim

    On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:25 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>= =20 wrote:

    The question is in the subject...

    Which live streaming = method is=20 best?

    I have a weird performance next week, where I will = provide=20 drones and soundsscape for a Bendir Player and Trumpeter That are = located in=20 Melbourne Austrailia to my Oslo Norway.

    I did suggest NinJam = to them,=20 but.. well they didnt wanna, and right now 5 dont have a PC running = the=20 server so I am always in danger of a Shredder screwing up our = sensitive=20 Improv(When I use apublic Server.

    I I suggested UStream, = however, Im=20 wondering if the sound quality (is is stereo? for example) is any = good? My=20 guys down under will be Live on stage with me projected via = webcam...=20
    What other (free) systems might I try.. IT doesnt have to be = that I can=20 hear them... I will just provide drones that They will play to... = Weird for=20 me, but I will get to hear the recording afterwards...

    M
    --
    www.markfrancombe.com
    http://vimeo.com/user825094<= BR>http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
    http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
    ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
    ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA257C.488727F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 16:10:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9868F3BEA9; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A940D65.90501@het.it> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:12:21 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Goodin CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Knot References: <4A93DFBE.3070505@het.it> <9e0440a60908250859o2052e05bpeae9d6c003f3e81e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908250859o2052e05bpeae9d6c003f3e81e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090823-0, 23/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Thank you! 
    I don't exactly know but here you can find informations:
    http://www.disc-shelf.com/about.php
    greetings from Florence!

    Jim Goodin ha scritto:
    Massimo enjoyed, particularly Loop 2.  Is Disc Shelf a local Italian venture?
     
    Jim

    On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Massimo Liverani <liverani@het.it> wrote:
    Tanky you Christo...maybe is for the fact i live in Florence, and i spend some time
    in The tuscany coast (Maremma) :-)) ...so i'm very happy you like.
    They are live recorded and at the perfromance we estabilished a record:
    0 public! :-(

    Max Liver

    Christo Jota ha scritto:
    Reminds me of a warm breeze in the evening at the Tuscany-coast in Italy. Been there on vacation last year.
    Beautiful.
    (Loop 1)
    Very atmospheric ! I like it.
    Christo
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:07 AM
    Subject: The Knot

    talking about disc-shelf i signed up too
    and i also loaded my live looping music,
    you can listen to
    http://www.disc-shelf.com/?album=130
    Tnx!

    Massimo Liverani (Max Liver)

    mike@michaelplishka.com ha scritto:
    Louigi,
     
    Cool layout at Disc-shelf!
     
    Just signed up!
     
    ~peace~
    plish



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    ReUse, an introspective textural aural
    www.myspace.com/CtReUse

    music links...
    www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
    www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
    www.myspace.com/jindream
    www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

    video work/editing...
    www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

    social networking...
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 16:20:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25D8B3BEAE; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cfemAb5v0GVdBcHPfK25/v+QjSmvNFMQw5jn9rFBrv0=; b=Mw6R9/y3qAHZnN6g9JyXMyGJXU0jjWyvYf28VM+n1i3b1hKUGejIJ6sQpVEC5DeyXE NZrrMjNjjXufLv2/fw32/Zr58hpOwgFfrAXwqTQikdr7ooV9TLcTsWWU0PFUIIyhJ/Mw B7Uq6Wh2WSUf1FXNwWqk1fqOvI6Vxa5q4sJIE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ngrUdfiQxv1Uuw9WhWmu2JSt9wnyq91bft7KvRFxZm0BuQC1xg+/6Cg/7+U6D8o2hy EpHCWPO1w5nTnpN28zbU+lmqCNYXJIocDaL6K+xYz0kn7spBJH8V3wfuDqgKTVUzhluI 0LLUJqdmmRG8Se5jLZQxRJahoj3yb92Lv4KPQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A940D65.90501@het.it> References: <4A93DFBE.3070505@het.it> <9e0440a60908250859o2052e05bpeae9d6c003f3e81e@mail.gmail.com> <4A940D65.90501@het.it> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:20:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The Knot From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC) very nice massimo. loop2 my fav too. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 18:07:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCC6C3BE97; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=w1RxXwzxWcBTxRYpD2YvB2P2DBJuejdtTc3yuSxgVro=; b=T2fj6bDTFdeK+kThluJ4Jan7UmDoZugHToI2aacAsnAaAkfuoKReB1EpbQAehhhmx7 IoRGj9YaEEWvDUFHP+vzUaSsZLBwyNubMqMrrigTnSOIEZkvaUvVCsZdP5R6PuLH0p8O /tCqUY/3Bes/rKXu/3PpRJHSzfXheWrskKgwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OSqXIlzvbO7mXOLixEGRDEsN4DSnobbaInRwcbGM4ffFDKIycLLbDlknw9CcbS4YAU hJTbcyQP5dsP25WXBRO3MmGDUTkiGKZXPJH9Lf1I6u5ufsipRfScfoWfBHyPDmGcXT59 a4KSKmjnfiKs8q1um4o/NGVkJJz//Oo53bwU8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005d01ca259d$cfcf8f60$8a872245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <005d01ca259d$cfcf8f60$8a872245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:07:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which live streaming method is best? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:07:47 +0000 (UTC) any alternatives to FME for mac users? 2009/8/25, Jeff Duke : > This is true Jim, except I use Ustream now, Rainer still uses justin.tv. I > use (and I think Rainer also) the FME (Flash Media Encoder) which may be > used with either service. It was a little tricky to set up but I get plenty > of headroom with it. It is stereo and you can choose quality desired for > audio and video. I use a 128kbs mp3 for audio. The FME has a nice VU meter > that shows your levels being input and I adjust with my mixers output > accordingly > > For that app be aware that there is about a 2 second delay between inputing > a note and hearing it on the broadcast. I never listen to the broadcast > while playing. Rainer and I have experimented some with this and it works > but kind of "Cage" like as he says! :) For droney stuff it's pretty ok, even > could be interesting. > > Best, > > Jeff > > "Was that too melodic?" > _ Sonny Sharrock > > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Goodin > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: Which live streaming method is best? > > > Mark my experience with ustream has been good though ive kept my feeds > mono. Rainer and jeff have done stereo on ustream but i think their > experience witth it has been better on justin.tv. The main thing you have to > watch in my experience is to not ovedrive the audio to the server. Ustream > has seemed sensitive in the past to the point that ive kept my master out > at 11oclock. Sunday my loops got pretty saturated and i thought i was > probably going to clip some but on pb things held up. > > > > Jim > > On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:25 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > > The question is in the subject... > > Which live streaming method is best? > > I have a weird performance next week, where I will provide drones and > soundsscape for a Bendir Player and Trumpeter That are located in Melbourne > Austrailia to my Oslo Norway. > > I did suggest NinJam to them, but.. well they didnt wanna, and right now > 5 dont have a PC running the server so I am always in danger of a Shredder > screwing up our sensitive Improv(When I use apublic Server. > > I I suggested UStream, however, Im wondering if the sound quality (is is > stereo? for example) is any good? My guys down under will be Live on stage > with me projected via webcam... > What other (free) systems might I try.. IT doesnt have to be that I can > hear them... I will just provide drones that They will play to... Weird for > me, but I will get to hear the recording afterwards... > > M > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 18:24:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 680BE3BE95; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1251224658; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=SBLQGVr5Ffm/57E3Rr24MLmBhzA=; b=dQcR7WtTyWbrArDwZcjqLtZEofJ6Mox8h2Euky6LRKhowuXneRGlzOo+5w5SkRdf wFmIxn0gom8SJLL74Z2quES9a99Gn9ZZe8jfQRl3PUNhlIsNub/j6UeDWyFtOJXW; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IyNmnJsSXeAA:10 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=L8-3oVRxAAAA:20 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=M2t2oO7bAAAA:8 a=nEJoZ4RnAAAA:8 a=UImqhiFiiF0RU-qjE8MA:9 a=J6pR40oIWiNkhYxjm5MA:7 a=o2lYg785jlrFZ2AlJJ7IEtZqyS4A:4 a=1QOWHE8ifVUA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601ca25b1$4d941570$8a872245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <005d01ca259d$cfcf8f60$8a872245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Which live streaming method is best? Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:24:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Raul, yes there are, Ustream doesn't talk about it but the FME works with them also. Maybe the Mac apps below would work with Ustream also, I don't know. As far as justin.tv here is a bit on that for mac http://community.justin.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=9 It has info on the standalone broadcaster for mac among other thing. http://community.justin.tv/mediawiki/index.php/Quicktime_Broadcaster best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul Bonell" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Which live streaming method is best? > any alternatives to FME for mac users? > > 2009/8/25, Jeff Duke : >> This is true Jim, except I use Ustream now, Rainer still uses justin.tv. >> I >> use (and I think Rainer also) the FME (Flash Media Encoder) which may be >> used with either service. It was a little tricky to set up but I get >> plenty >> of headroom with it. It is stereo and you can choose quality desired for >> audio and video. I use a 128kbs mp3 for audio. The FME has a nice VU >> meter >> that shows your levels being input and I adjust with my mixers output >> accordingly >> >> For that app be aware that there is about a 2 second delay between >> inputing >> a note and hearing it on the broadcast. I never listen to the broadcast >> while playing. Rainer and I have experimented some with this and it works >> but kind of "Cage" like as he says! :) For droney stuff it's pretty ok, >> even >> could be interesting. >> >> Best, >> >> Jeff >> >> "Was that too melodic?" >> _ Sonny Sharrock >> >> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace >> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ >> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke >> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jim Goodin >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:33 AM >> Subject: Re: Which live streaming method is best? >> >> >> Mark my experience with ustream has been good though ive kept my feeds >> mono. Rainer and jeff have done stereo on ustream but i think their >> experience witth it has been better on justin.tv. The main thing you have >> to >> watch in my experience is to not ovedrive the audio to the server. >> Ustream >> has seemed sensitive in the past to the point that ive kept my master >> out >> at 11oclock. Sunday my loops got pretty saturated and i thought i was >> probably going to clip some but on pb things held up. >> >> >> >> Jim >> >> On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:25 AM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> >> >> The question is in the subject... >> >> Which live streaming method is best? >> >> I have a weird performance next week, where I will provide drones and >> soundsscape for a Bendir Player and Trumpeter That are located in >> Melbourne >> Austrailia to my Oslo Norway. >> >> I did suggest NinJam to them, but.. well they didnt wanna, and right >> now >> 5 dont have a PC running the server so I am always in danger of a >> Shredder >> screwing up our sensitive Improv(When I use apublic Server. >> >> I I suggested UStream, however, Im wondering if the sound quality (is >> is >> stereo? for example) is any good? My guys down under will be Live on >> stage >> with me projected via webcam... >> What other (free) systems might I try.. IT doesnt have to be that I >> can >> hear them... I will just provide drones that They will play to... Weird >> for >> me, but I will get to hear the recording afterwards... >> >> M >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 25 23:15:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04EC13BE8E; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.176.118] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: OT: Taylor acoustic guitar/ sitar guitar trade Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:15:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_109D_01CA25A7.A50B2E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Aug 2009 23:15:33.0660 (UTC) FILETIME=[F24ACDC0:01CA25D9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:15:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_109D_01CA25A7.A50B2E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Taylor CE310 acoustic guitar, hardshell case, and FCB1010 that = I'd to sell for $750 + shipping or trade for one of the red sitar axes: http://www.voxshowroom.com/northcoast/jerryjones/sitars.html Anyone interested? 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    I have a Taylor CE310 acoustic=20 guitar, hardshell case, and FCB1010 that I'd to sell for $750 = +=20 shipping or trade for one of the red sitar axes:
     
    htt= p://www.voxshowroom.com/northcoast/jerryjones/sitars.html
     
    Anyone interested?
     
    Kris
     
     
    ------=_NextPart_000_109D_01CA25A7.A50B2E60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 00:16:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A3CF3BE8D; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:16:30 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out a lot of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a couple of the names. The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous and DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for the last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really > straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal and > other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a way > to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 01:23:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E4D73BE8D; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=rFT9rz5KAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=HErFX3-8gwJJjRyiEdoA:9 a=ifOZ_IJKNq4qyrWMTREE8aKxFuIA:4 Message-Id: <5DC078B0-A1FB-4094-BDA2-C86B17E18F3B@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:23:37 -0700 References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, There is also a great concert DVD with Rypdal, Vitous and Trilok Gurtu available: I own a copy . . . and watch it from time to time. BTW Odyssey is just about my least favorite Rypdal recording - and I own them all (and everything he's been a sideman on too). It's a very early solo effort and not his best (IMOHO) though I don't "hate" it as you did. I think I still like it because I hear it in a 1975 context - a time during which I was 22-23 and just discovering ECM jazz. Different strokes. Cheers, Ted On Aug 25, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out a > lot of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware > of a couple of the names. > > The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended > online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest > word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous > and DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day > for the last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving > music. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really >> straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal and >> other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a way >> to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 01:32:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C04343BE8F; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1557 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:32:00 UTC Message-ID: <20090825210602.361145lobuanvr8k@www.wightman.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:06:02 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Repeater for sale References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; GTB6; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Just in case no one saw it, there's a repeater for sale on ebay in Victoria BC. 3 days left on the auction and the current bid is 201.00. 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    = --_6d49c174-5437-4d01-bc3e-4e265eb707af_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 11:49:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FF193BE80; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1251287364; l=1400; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=tI6cZin2Np5WZKrSULBmarg/RKQ=; b=hc4XdpS5Pv2+/udX4aBdWkv+A+lB6rVinowQQgoF0CwD/JAOsEX++RxQQeiHrzX/ZyW m7bFxMQCRFpeGaNd4v8jAnt8ON1C+upD+zj9xw44YVeYvRHIKdBwNnMDOTFxYqLItRCXE YV1bExtyfEzOCw6Sb9V6mjrhdY39sXh3m6A= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWbBObpUsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:48:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:49:26 +0000 (UTC) The trio-album with Vitous and DeJohnette indeed is fantastic. Rypdal was one of the early guys experimenting with a guitar synth. And I think he did very well with it. I love those spheric sounds flying in the skies and bass and drums providing a cool rythm carpet. Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:16 AM Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out a lot > of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a > couple of the names. > > The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended > online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest > word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous and > DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for the > last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really > > straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal and > > other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a way > > to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 12:11:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BE1D3BE7E; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ie0scIptkDotjPiuO1KHZKMnw2YfZL3v9/jUMnMuSlA=; b=HDy4sCOJFQFRTAsOKbAL2xBxhTf57R7mRFsiigns1Ktc2EQog0xMu57qlQRjSWp2qn v5A/nqshgOM8cR+hkUwYTXzLQVrDLWcNbJKbBLjSoW/KCGM92dauCN0xRv8QsnYTBRgQ aCqw3Jw6JTvNj8xHVGbg216hvnj9hIBPi7fK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vOPu6a7D3iJ2aTgZNh70JRsypE0KWTW/O2nv9NlyPxQC+LKwmFM3QIOPqY7XzRUMK4 rmM1tTW47/MLK/GOf7gU3aukEICRzdzAmQhxxwis6vsgAcGLJhO0X7w3MuLZEWPYfPC1 pmcdVEMPhEKWvt0bEssgaXr6TVcGGfClgGvWU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:11:22 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bda2869520704720a59d1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:11:24 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bda2869520704720a59d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey everybody! So far I am enjoying being part of the Loopers Delight mailing list. A lot of useful information sharing is going on. I have two questions. 1. Does "looping" mean only people who overdub during performances? Because I, for instance, do no such thing, yet I also do work with loops. The Loopers Delight site seems to be talking mostly about this kind of overdub looping. 2. How do you handle sampling? Do you sample a lot from TV shows, other people's music? Louigi Verona. *www.louigiverona.ru* --0023545bda2869520704720a59d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everybody!
    So far I am enjoying being part of the Loopers Delight ma= iling list. A lot of useful information sharing is going on.
    I have two = questions.

    1. Does "looping" mean only people who overdub = during performances? Because I, for instance, do no such thing, yet I also = do work with loops. The Loopers Delight site seems to be talking mostly abo= ut this kind of overdub looping.
    2. How do you handle sampling? Do you sample a lot from TV shows, other peo= ple's music?

    Louigi Verona.
    www.louigiverona.ru
    --0023545bda2869520704720a59d1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 12:42:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 011C53BE81; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nRuJ+AOB0H2xZMeRSfj6d3fDNC43vySuRA0q8RGHcVA=; b=IpX07QkeNs7WPxC/TZAVg4yCiur+PRTRCTGl2cgWQCIb/r0SVJKSTTe3+VeinLuehr PdC46Oa8lN+XIynC/+H5bxQezbsHs8k5KHdn7fxAygqWQV/fyz33bJVJAKFfziqy9lyE kSuzziPcfZGTrvhG3+qfSCrYDxn/tgRdTMkSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LaM4dM1RwTnx/CPLvS297LYhDIcA9VZb29G5048k+6wPeb5aOznLom2LqONMzA7v75 TfV/+aAYnmRWnfmutR6agszMvMjmi/FkgVs8+cIVrfkdUzLai3N8Yw1OOkwG4KxHZldH xwtJmjITwiN/D0Q5roPi0QLS9Aa8cwsWvO4g4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:42:25 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:42:26 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > 1. Does "looping" mean only people who overdub during performances? Because > I, for instance, do no such thing, yet I also do work with loops. The > Loopers Delight site seems to be talking mostly about this kind of overdub > looping. > 2. How do you handle sampling? Do you sample a lot from TV shows, other > people's music? Hi Louigi, Two interesting questions that I too have been thinking about from time to time. 1) Personally I'm comfortable with with using the term "looping" for any musical activity that includes manipulating loops. I don't think you have to sample yourself in realtime for the loops you work, in order to perform "looping". 2) I only sample myself, as part of the live looping performance. Sometimes I may sample an ensemble buddy as well. Related: I think the point in "looping" is that it is something you are doing in realtime. I wouldn't use the term "looping" to describe the process of finding a drum loop and set it to repeat throughout the piece. But I would regard it "looping" if I took the same drum loop, set it to repeat and then assigned a couple of buttons to "play it" with tricks as double-speed, reverse sample playback, slice 16th notes and play only the short attack of each ("stutter"), a filter cutoff and resonance control... etc etc. The reason I only sample myself is that I happen to be able to play instruments and find that very fun to do. So I try to use looping equipment too as instruments. This is different from the other approach where you rather look at looping equipment as "production tools" in the process of creating a piece of recorded music. I think this list is a bit biased towards the performing aspects rather than the producing aspects of loopage. The "how do you handle sampling" question you posted seems typically to sort into the producing-recorded-music context. I personally use whatever sample that works musically, mostly from libraries that guarantee I will not violate any rights if the music should later on happen to be used commercially or in public. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 13:27:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72F913BE80; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mQQSlpuSYmix/Fw4JmLCry3A/OxUMaQx0jx4icoINCI=; b=x8g2z0wNJKQ6uKLJuwrR5w5aSspSQocvYHAneDSeYFK7kteBdt4+Kl87PgUiWR6FXr I78tHvh+GQ416poBmECeDHwRXrDUxy1b34aNy+WOv8K6Ru5Ih/USYz/Em0wnYIjbobva jc4LMEXFuvkt8TjuyVB333Wa3BhagAx6w+rN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wnSgRF+n1AdVbdBaCaiC10zotJ6lMz+cwhDttHqxSkDaaqudYgLyuZ+eFiMYeI72E6 Z55trP67+qMdi2nQQodSpXR/SH2ZyFyU4Y5LdpEvqbgZWmu4gzoVeX7i0ddRQjP9Wo8i Ohbh8dxS/a9XGCsMXBIOKD5ZJU52kUhwhCvb4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:27:41 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747906e565b0a04720b6aa6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:27:42 +0000 (UTC) --00151747906e565b0a04720b6aa6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I see. Interesting. Well, I do looping in real time as well, but I do not record in real time - at least, not yet. There are a lot of things which I find interesting in manipulating recorded sound. What I personally do not like about overdub looping at the moment is that the only possible thing here is a build up. You record the first loop and as you record other loops over, this first loop will repeat and repeat and repeat. It is very difficult to make the arrangement varied. And you get a lot of lines which are there looped for too long a time. As for sampling, I personally sample both myself and from any sources, including the "copyrighted" things like movies and "commercial music". I do put that into brackets since I find it ridiculous that it is illegal to sample. Sampling yourself is cool, but using a sample from, say, a movie, can bring extra special charm to the record. But that's me. Louigi. --00151747906e565b0a04720b6aa6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I see. Interesting.

    Well, I do looping in real time as well, but = I do not record in real time - at least, not yet. There are a lot of things= which I find interesting
    in manipulating recorded sound. What I persona= lly do not like about overdub looping at the moment is that the only possib= le thing here is a build up.
    You record the first loop and as you record other loops over, this first lo= op will repeat and repeat and repeat. It is very difficult to make the arra= ngement varied.
    And you get a lot of lines which are there looped for to= o long a time.

    As for sampling, I personally sample both myself and from any sources, = including the "copyrighted" things like movies and "commerci= al music".
    I do put that into brackets since I find it ridiculous t= hat it is illegal to sample. Sampling yourself is cool, but using a sample = from, say, a movie, can
    bring extra special charm to the record. But that's me.

    Louigi.<= br> --00151747906e565b0a04720b6aa6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 13:47:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0E3C3BE7E; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mXLsZDkTAlQnOXtWXlrj/JDNb7OLOwdTNQ5prZ0WBLI=; b=NofW2+GnVConBCVmQPmRDB39Kv2u63SSe4e40QpbWkIKQLFJgB+fjE0YxDzav0TZW9 9KxQKQPZ8grBg4yDyGcupdAGivtpDhkOnnRt5hzydgEmUhGCEKaOpeXeq7oK7sj6UipM WU8ykCysD926ud012qKzMq1p3AdMrfKHCNfLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XyIcgTxW9d3+3DPe//uWPhPiVPLlZXLSwKWIiRXeKQYAo07AwJqWXGp43dMBz3PBoP ht67S+X8Ffgi2ndc4McndSfdG8d5ytBuObNODRbM5qlCUuKasXyIbpOgVou3VpLM7sJs BwbIkKmSTkA1JUZgeAp6fMyFbJAZe/65190CA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:47:28 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908260647l4f5f7382v4edfcaaa3d80699d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:47:32 +0000 (UTC) There's a Gartbarek album Frisell is on with one other person, I've forgotten the records title but has a wonderful piece called Pendulum. On 8/26/09, Christo Jota wrote: > The trio-album with Vitous and DeJohnette indeed is fantastic. > Rypdal was one of the early guys experimenting with a guitar synth. > And I think he did very well with it. > I love those spheric sounds flying in the skies and > bass and drums providing a cool rythm carpet. > Christo > www.christojota.de > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daryl Shawn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:16 AM > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > > >> Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out a lot >> of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a >> couple of the names. >> >> The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended >> online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest >> word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous and >> DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for the >> last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> > Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really >> > straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal and >> > other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a way >> > to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m >> >> > > -- Sent from my mobile device ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 14:04:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF2B73BE82; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vzBAOMpxXhjjiKs3As2rS3gsXe5FHwMrG0EvYO1MnJs=; b=mQ3JVYLBBCGpndLD6EWnfFtevGP7POGlXVJ3Jh/PuoEUCfxiXqJ5XpHWN2ww1PvVKB QuoDHMssdDsMdk+9RWhOypgPz8XVlPm5Gvdgjyv8QDyz+DJuonVpzKsvI8DkdE1HUTK5 ZT7SP7zApcK0zGQjnu77ayV+4DuudZf0HR1+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G7d/AmNhvaFRxAAkT3JPWcCfRqNEzFroJL59iN41mTVMZYWdYWwiaHWMVYx5nGNFrs kXfXwSGn10+qihBqHRmAd7OqrTEOWZ248oDE5kQI7RG2bpo68knpTptobct4zoo/8/YH lB3fEesmnD7l77fYAUGUxHDI1Q6grxhVx/x84= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:04:33 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908260704j1f033833od779c2f39813cff6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:04:34 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > What I personally do not like about overdub > looping at the moment is that the only possible thing here is a build up. > You record the first loop and as you record other loops over, this first > loop will repeat and repeat and repeat. It is very difficult to make the > arrangement varied. > And you get a lot of lines which are there looped for too long a time. I guess you are not the only one that doesn't like to loop like that! ;-)) It just creates a mess over time. The challenge in live looping is to use commands like Undo, Substitute and Feedback to take away old audio layers and put new audio into your loops. And of course, building many parallel loops lets you create more interesting music than if only using one loops all the time. > Sampling yourself is cool, but using a sample from, say, a movie, > can > bring extra special charm to the record. But that's me. I think many agree with you on that. But I wasn't saying I never use vocal or environmental samples, I just said I don't use it in the real-time sampling art form we use to call live looping. Just like you I do it a lot for creating recorded music. Some tools and techniques are quite different for performing and producing recordings even though the line is blurry and a lot bleed over between stage and studio. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 14:44:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7DF03BE84; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1933 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:43:59 UTC Message-ID: <1551.68.36.127.56.1251295707.squirrel@mymail3.myregisteredsite.com> In-Reply-To: <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: db@biink.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_20090826100827_28380" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:44:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_20090826100827_28380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit it was my first Rypdal album because I saw that he was using gtr synth. I bought it when it was new, many years ago. David Beardsley http://biink.com > The trio-album with Vitous and DeJohnette indeed is fantastic. > Rypdal was one of the early guys experimenting with a guitar synth. > And I think he did very well with it. > I love those spheric sounds flying in the skies and > bass and drums providing a cool rythm carpet. > Christo > www.christojota.de > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daryl Shawn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:16 AM > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > > >> Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out a lot >> of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a >> couple of the names. >> >> The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended >> online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest >> word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous and >> DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for the >> last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> > Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really >> > straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal and >> > other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a way >> > to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m >> >> > > ------=_20090826100827_28380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit it was my first Rypdal album because I saw that
    he was using gtr synth. I bought it when it was new, many years ago.

    David Beardsley
    http://biink.com

    > The trio-album with Vitous and DeJohnette indeed is fantastic.
    > Rypdal was one of the early guys experimenting with a guitar synth.
    > And I think he did very well with it.
    > I love those spheric sounds flying in the skies and
    > bass and drums providing a cool rythm carpet.
    > Christo
    > www.christojota.de
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    >
    From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
    > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:16 AM
    > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists?
    >
    >
    >> Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out a lot
    >> of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a
    >> couple of the names.
    >>
    >> The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended
    >> online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest
    >> word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous and
    >> DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for the
    >> last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music.
    >>
    >> Daryl Shawn
    >> www.swanwelder.com
    >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    >>
    >> > Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really
    >> > straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal and
    >> > other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a way
    >> > to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m
    >>
    >>
    >
    > ------=_20090826100827_28380-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 14:56:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E45943BE80; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=WZk0shEQdo1qQ/NQAm4CuVlzQN2i4Lap3xHAxmG8S6o=; b=FIX/aLS7ayhW0l6dOpOpwLh5NIxAJ2fc6MrcZh63+YIKjHmbK42jiucexpxfiXhHHL Q6V6EWDQMRzffSz5oCGsCLsIJ2IR9uE4g/FXfENnWe25el8Mm1JrQDKX+C1+loSNe5dG SQQqA5f+o8VtZ1oT0lBmrYX/26+kh07G+0rTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=GsRjQu2d8VDvb2GdLCTg08JkAAAKzzQt+9Ll/nJbWZUu+PvMJO1K/K6XsH5Vhu7HJH fwFdy1ET9bxBFCnRLJJpqyk2Pi3YfPkoFpZWoxL+jv3Q2+cd1Ia9GOcx9JCmaKsg3iTC z+vMesq9yz4JCk/2iMMYXcNz3ba011i8gNSdY= Message-Id: <12D3A21C-93F7-4A1B-A78B-9BC68FF0A288@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Samples and looping Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:56:15 -0300 References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:56:52 +0000 (UTC) On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:27, Louigi Verona wrote: > So I see. Interesting. > > Well, I do looping in real time as well, but I do not record in real > time - at least, not yet. There are a lot of things which I find > interesting in manipulating recorded sound. What I personally do not > like about overdub looping at the moment is that the only possible > thing here is a build up. I never heard "overdub looping"... but yes, I dont like the build-only style very much either, it only serves for a hymn from time to time :-) but we had many discussions here about how to evolve a loop, listen to my pieces, the often end totally different from the start, I reduce Feedback for this, others use Replace, several loops... > You record the first loop and as you record other loops over, this > first loop will repeat and repeat and repeat. It is very difficult > to make the arrangement varied. some of the tools dont help for this really > And you get a lot of lines which are there looped for too long a time. or just loop a few layers and play a lot? :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 15:30:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C64A3BE84; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:30:08 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ltv5iw7CYST4iU5ltwbVrtvFkemdgw4dJyPNVAT/JG4gW7OqGANErJcF7u1a0OHW19lDRDjRSZTIFjJymv6hJVDpkK4PxII6iC8IPv0NsEqM3miXQFG3nvhFcpXLsQKTBW5JcCCFlokoFSq788rGQx+83RVfu4OnUiCPXvtJYfE= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: 0m8_qiYVM1mmBsa85iXHHGroDoAnsKyLNaxNKyPQKqdyDaHsZZK98evgTMTObC_8_oKvpOlYCyrfqWRi2DFSNGerzlH1poPD5Jy_iMkY3nmgZVPgAsCBxhdmdiPJI9zyn5F31_YzFurVGGXDeT3naga0RWTnGB_9YYX2TKhDs2gKuHDbkO2sxop3PQDFe6LOAmNy_lGcka6gvq.akKGq9UVwtUPZNXetSK1Yzas2XkIvn.ZvqqHpaS9dWFHt2r9IIezjjh_ZW81VSNtgK0ae2m9LUo9wIlOikJeS1j9BScqK6L3181kKUwgG85H0qlw4Vi0g X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: Phil Keaggy on Looping Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:23:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <9d1mI.A.t4H.AUVlKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:30:09 +0000 (UTC) He's the master, and the reason I bought my DL4 in the beginning.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=150CvQbyP3Y Ricky From servizio@monetaonline.it Wed Aug 26 16:09:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1119 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:09:26 UTC Received: from srdmz06.kzo.ch (srdmz06.kzo.ch [62.2.210.19]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070E33BE6F; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srdmz06.kzo.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608107B756; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:50:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at srdmz06.kzo.ch Received: from srdmz06.kzo.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srdmz06.kzo.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WpG6HjvIKNZg; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:50:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from exchange.kzo.ch (vpn.kzo.ch [62.2.210.18]) by srdmz06.kzo.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E577B770; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:50:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User ([130.184.198.252]) by exchange.kzo.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:50:45 +0200 From: "Intesa SanPaolo" Subject: Avisso: Carta Flash blocatto Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:50:22 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2009 15:50:45.0947 (UTC) FILETIME=[F996B8B0:01CA2664] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Untitled

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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 16:49:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAC913BE84; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kv646uh1LNeTgjZ2tFoak48oRhS3DE6ZxmSRFc+6a0Q=; b=q7hztWOXLFpMUJlBZsJcXG0eM7okY7zfCA3fQG9JNe2+SAwoetz/sOG/qbdicZXoCc HwrmLeQhIQzUYPy0TXRBgOAd7DLNzdQQ1ZS35oCZFDbnAnmAeIZivrMIcQPj6/lKdE0W tbqK6VMRUCdO5JZd0pNYIzauc5SH3ftqM8uR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=payXoFax5ZlvxgprUxHNHJ9aGffUN0C8zbt74sIg5PJ3SAqLyfdcpLcnN6YatRlWsd iu8qWg4NkONfgHu508P49nxMvdvA2+ar3dPgLjsCwO43X3prQvPLLXPqZHeTxLvcAbi6 lWnHkmfFrJ1bANv7TyFpiu8HgxB7Yn4Pviyj4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:49:22 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:49:24 +0000 (UTC) No, it is not illegal to sample. What is illegal (and immoral) is to use someone's work without asking for written permission. If you ask the right person nicely, you will get the license 90% of the time. A friend of mine recently obtained a license from a very famous movie director, to use a sample from his latest movie. Guess what, he gave his permission for free as long as the sample is not used in another movie... :-) On 8/26/09, Louigi Verona wrote: > So I see. Interesting. > > Well, I do looping in real time as well, but I do not record in real time - > at least, not yet. There are a lot of things which I find interesting > in manipulating recorded sound. What I personally do not like about overdub > looping at the moment is that the only possible thing here is a build up. > You record the first loop and as you record other loops over, this first > loop will repeat and repeat and repeat. It is very difficult to make the > arrangement varied. > And you get a lot of lines which are there looped for too long a time. > > As for sampling, I personally sample both myself and from any sources, > including the "copyrighted" things like movies and "commercial music". > I do put that into brackets since I find it ridiculous that it is illegal to > sample. Sampling yourself is cool, but using a sample from, say, a movie, > can > bring extra special charm to the record. But that's me. > > Louigi. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 16:51:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B3833BE7E; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kz6PXGkw0ZEvamuuzQeuSpJa59LMUO0LwWIYvUBQoLU=; b=JiKpNOYlgzhUrvkegXOmg3dXLXHzUz35c6/TdWMcLo0DV/l+/jSkeihPcuNRqcr8np aED0OWSHA65eSOthTqdpPJGu3b+r+UGKtLKdxLKRuUhkmWbnO814oHb2QbccOpjBiQbZ 03kM6kMbKG9DIzAyzG6ewTeuC85J9qF8UbRj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UYb/T1t+AKRHv4E4zTrrHiqmQvZIa5MJSAEBwch1Odl8UfdDmhMdJ2wP8tFUo2XQtH 7y4Jzz3VK5LzLoE7aslU/ZY36N8c7dpCoZXZYodsa9zCGiJ2yqBIV0ucf5zXSIyBJKey 0xqQYl4qGdDaP93wITJ/rSVilPLqLPKGLzBd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090825210602.361145lobuanvr8k@www.wightman.ca> References: <20090825210602.361145lobuanvr8k@www.wightman.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:51:37 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908260951y546c246o4eabdc947327dc4b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Repeater for sale From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Can you please post a link to the auction? On 8/26/09, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: > Just in case no one saw it, there's a repeater for sale on ebay in > Victoria BC. 3 days left on the auction and the current bid is 201.00. > It's apparently unused. > > Paul > Ontario, Canada > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 16:55:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E3BF3BE8E; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wqtlai0VtdjNstz9gEvV65ktq3YAo3lC1N65XAtTx1s=; b=QL1MR4oq8M7dfsFmnkq7eSJjLINibQ68SxP2f3RVOEbZlMHAyPxkAwjWptMxF7J8XM qgcFgyjBoqsJMia+fdoVeonAWDceUwImFGIHOQWxvJi1obRwfEalQ1Kd9yTHJ96t45ZF QxBP4aHDmfEP96yw4NeddC5uJ0CiIoEZOhJGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kfg6q66MU3pmm7u2LPGsUAH0S4kntFna6AoHv3d6HAM82SS9U4j4uM54dqGGXvu65u X4q1by+L44GiTPLN1im3ftP3VeZv6n29oed2OIUfm+OPuDPt8kslTcZP0ylN/UbuAlaT Xh8onaSnmA9hDrTtjGyCkm0ysoTSMVkYMwIE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15115508E1D04E998CBB847D39547C46@MichaelPC> References: <9e0440a60908221909u20df0917o90c15173ecaaed71@mail.gmail.com> <15115508E1D04E998CBB847D39547C46@MichaelPC> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:55:05 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908260955t12c43e2fy776c3d2d5e7f099@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Nature loops From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Some times audio forensics software helps to solve problems like this. On 8/23/09, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Hey folks! > > Doign some night nature loops and trying to get out some of the sounds of > distant traffic. It seems like doign a high pass filter at about 3Khz does > a pretty good job and looking at the spectrum it's in the ballpark but is > there any research on this? > > Thanks! > > ~peace~ > Plish > > www.michaelplishka.com > www.scribbledmusings.com > www.zenstorming.com > www.twitter.com/plish > www.trendhunter.com/zenstorming From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 17:03:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54CB83BE8F; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=g0y04Mp3qW0ppa9Yvz4J8usIOcEbCpyO8i8VGGLoaeU=; b=he5I9U2LMfKIsh+JAmbT1XBQT+m7dVLkhCw31bN6BgkebcfS2b/MGslEtJ0gaOB55K Lf71EFLYXXN36HwDR3qkWKZ9Yl5NmjMxAavCgcdv2Nnp4fOvopsRIIO4C1g0l8rI9N1G QJZOy3NEF6CMz/v48Ux0hvgVXJlF573Zmcxbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mh2opYRXjkjZH3o8Jta2gwbz2+I+O1yg56KubPkZXLXnMXpanijWOL6E8zE72Yg4Hj VIdsTZsuglaVskfkDlJXRkJZI6Ip0Ider9gvCK3mnJdvvqW+RlvzlArhpOz2nnbocJU9 xG2NDc/0246E1D2KDhFWcwErwWGifhcNogdYE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:03:39 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908261003i71465c39s1596d3fcf9551f6b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wiki - list of free software for audio From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:03:41 +0000 (UTC) If someone is looking for open source sound and audio software, check out Source Forge - http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=113 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 17:37:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5BB33BEA2; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=rS+Prw6AaEAvB+HvZpXwf2psl2m/paNL9Q7kAU15ShY=; b=kpanhMdNusUxB2Pm+ws7WetHFG/i1T+NKUoTaE5JYPKd8wt8gt4hnXHsBjU2ZlQoLe lePHUlEtkBUKjG/pPmNu6oTiy2YifIMPL9KE8I9D+owlVWnvRoKjhVs7ty4qjvQULZZc XO6bGpJ3uqrM8ifIaGAF4kUfCxHjzonVMBhMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=pIJQZnQNIOEhT2yByYp0l6CWZuroIDEeGa3ameSSiI4XnfBEdC7I7JxeS5btCCG5Pq rEjhFSTLLAT9FAsINMzIfFHto25GebjrBl7ktghPhdCqiC50L8HprJWgcCxMYuGwTSqn prwjWw/L1Oheby+fT1DJNHq+GaMZ8lLEf3noM= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908260647l4f5f7382v4edfcaaa3d80699d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:37:15 -0300 References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <9e0440a60908260647l4f5f7382v4edfcaaa3d80699d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Pendulum is made by our friend Eberhard Weber and is one of the first full livelooping records. he had a strike about 2 years ago and did not manage to play again since :-( On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:47, Jim Goodin wrote: > There's a Gartbarek album Frisell is on with one other person, I've > forgotten the records title but has a wonderful piece called Pendulum. > > On 8/26/09, Christo Jota wrote: >> The trio-album with Vitous and DeJohnette indeed is fantastic. >> Rypdal was one of the early guys experimenting with a guitar synth. >> And I think he did very well with it. >> I love those spheric sounds flying in the skies and >> bass and drums providing a cool rythm carpet. >> Christo >> www.christojota.de >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Daryl Shawn" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:16 AM >> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? >> >> >>> Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out >>> a lot >>> of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a >>> couple of the names. >>> >>> The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended >>> online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest >>> word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous >>> and >>> DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for >>> the >>> last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music. >>> >>> Daryl Shawn >>> www.swanwelder.com >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> >>>> Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really >>>> straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal >>>> and >>>> other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a >>>> way >>>> to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 18:40:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44CB83BE84; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A9581AF.7000707@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:40:47 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <5DC078B0-A1FB-4094-BDA2-C86B17E18F3B@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <5DC078B0-A1FB-4094-BDA2-C86B17E18F3B@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Right on, thanks Ted. I'll check that DVD out, I love Trilok too. Interesting about Odyssey..I didn't realize it was so early in his career. Interesting too to see his album called Lux Aeterna...hmm...seems to ring a bell! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Daryl, > > There is also a great concert DVD with Rypdal, Vitous and Trilok Gurtu > available: > > > > I own a copy . . . and watch it from time to time. > > BTW Odyssey is just about my least favorite Rypdal recording - and I > own them all (and everything he's been a sideman on too). > > It's a very early solo effort and not his best (IMOHO) though I don't > "hate" it as you did. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 19:29:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48F953BE85; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 980 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:29:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BlBYRR09QqA9vwGXexdu1wnggSv6Co90W7zmfCrbbs0=; b=C9hIwp4XzaKVqiBWvwSsLBC4PCfv8Ov+gTjcpQSqmw/ki0G5PSPijCoUcY/o9iTnlw KzjFBW/06cdG7Qx1Nktpp6TxA3ROWn4bH8moW++PZt1xqRxp+MijrC4/TJOHA4i9EYaa FtF0CZHfVp/Nm/fD1Vs5/9U7U6zUtMrv8J10s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HoRDN0KuoHICc3ypsnnbYjW/a7hYbdQDZYFRGzJTlxbGTpuiHL3IVIYEBKFnRMMII4 WMMJ8WKzF4RPnZd0mjbM8A7ouehneNV90vWUItkizm59W3UT3r7M4g87bKlaxVRjVMPg aU+jsrS3FCFpQS7WSia3rFTnyZlC67xJVgBXU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A9581AF.7000707@mhorse.com> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <5DC078B0-A1FB-4094-BDA2-C86B17E18F3B@charter.net> <4A9581AF.7000707@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:05:01 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908261205g5d522782hb71d534b65c8535d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Well, I sort of liked Odyssey because when it was released in 1975 I found it to be very different from anything I had heard so far. Of course it has a lot of more competition today and I guess Daryl judges it in that aspect... totally correct IMHO. Since having heard Odyssey I went to some of his gigs in the late seventies and was always amazed by how loud they played. It was like "Jimi Hendrix goes jazz" (earthquake volume) and not at all as "delicate" as I had expected the live act to be after hearing the records. I liked the music but it was difficult to listen at that level since they only played at very small clubs with concrete walls. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Right on, thanks Ted. I'll check that DVD out, I love Trilok too. > > Interesting about Odyssey..I didn't realize it was so early in his career. > > Interesting too to see his album called Lux Aeterna...hmm...seems to ring a > bell! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> Daryl, >> >> There is also a great concert DVD with Rypdal, Vitous and Trilok Gurtu >> available: >> >> >> >> I own a copy . . . and watch it from time to time. >> >> BTW Odyssey is just about my least favorite Rypdal recording - and I own >> them all (and everything he's been a sideman on too). >> >> It's a very early solo effort and not his best (IMOHO) though I don't >> "hate" it as you did. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 20:22:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 684013BE88; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <14796.72.22.1251318131.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:22:11 -0400 (AST) Subject: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique witth mobius From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I was wondering if any of you use this technique with mobius. I found something here that mentioned using Insert, SUSReplace, and Unrounded Multiply, but I don't have a clue how to approach it. Do I need to start looking at scripts? Appreciate any help you can give Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 26 20:38:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB4FF3BE85; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 320 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:38:31 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WchcT1tMcf3FBr6bux2usobyFPvuzsdo7KdAWOFQ3FU=; b=czpYR/iSr2cPA4lQrcpGrjcAKJx2bPBh6tHWhrhTuRqYuFrX1yOe3JpKDXHeQ7BhKX gWAQwdjMunsW+enLj/xoqzHVLw788A1hbIPCh9gEPY3RR6QNJ8spVICZWZ63WL0O/6DK qez7Iw2EYw8LLNGUN4lGXYjgTjU1LmOBv+/MM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JdVfmSxLp8J4DSScnxeV6F9pJGUTE6ii/wbI+m52ju8lw62bFvF4Tn7JDuYt3xJ9rv BuJOcO1AVMBXEbjJCV3QD9KzTADAPB8bsmsv9VYDAKZoKfB40UU15n+w+fZ3IrUbnVDi Ohq84D1vKXLaycXgApwIbRMao34/Q6DdTwxLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14796.72.22.1251318131.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <14796.72.22.1251318131.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:33:11 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908261333u3aa8e6fga72e0ec22e4c6547@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique witth mobius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:38:31 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Andr=C3=A9 Donawa = wrote: > I was wondering if any of you use this technique with mobius. > I found something here that mentioned using > Insert, SUSReplace, and Unrounded Multiply, but I don't have a clue how t= o > approach it. > Do I need to start looking at scripts? > Appreciate any help you can give You may have to start looking at scripts if you want to apply those commands faster than you can tap dance (i.e. kick pedals). Often it is the high speed frequency of manipulations that gives that glitchy sound character but there is a way to glitch without scripting and that is to apply no quantization or a very short 16ths Per Cycle setting as the quantization base. 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    --001636c926cd412978047211662c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 00:39:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D48B43BE8C; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090826203916.516715h24dwlbxz4@www.wightman.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:39:16 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Repeater for sale References: <20090825210602.361145lobuanvr8k@www.wightman.ca> <3f8d9ee60908260951y546c246o4eabdc947327dc4b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908260951y546c246o4eabdc947327dc4b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi, the link to the auction is http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230368959998&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT I hope that gets you to it, otherwise do a search for the seller jpretorius and the item number is 230368959998 and the location is Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. Looks like he is only shipping to Canada and the US Paul Haslem, Ontario, Canada Quoting Milo : > Can you please post a link to the auction? > > On 8/26/09, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: >> Just in case no one saw it, there's a repeater for sale on ebay in >> Victoria BC. 3 days left on the auction and the current bid is 201.00. >> It's apparently unused. >> >> Paul >> Ontario, Canada >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 02:27:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B453D3BE97; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=3n6xsslCkOyOf8jLzZX9eP0axVlquSmzAYKbgkdAWUM=; b=dqZee/nVZs3kTe90vOBixGZZdaMhFiB5cNmSlyd43I5rU6p6/erkKxHypkdwVB8+sG 497YhtwcPa38PK8w2WSnJaB6tffbgzMxPt4gR6VnxWXCCO020cLiSVO2wrentvQCYJIx w/o5e03s7ZlMvEl1tDvpDk1Nf9edj4HvASQmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=nIlOR77P7CZPqDNsPyLZggXPK9wSuCyUZLhAxiaF9LT4CTsOz1tWiUvqLuBElwXS5V UuPjAzcTFkBcgZ7D9ELW5rw8YtNiD9pxzDpa4qWg2Ws+5goGbXgqr9WHaIF6ci036jpJ 4SHtoMOsslmJnHSS7UnC4s1eER5u9/rR7Ah+A= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:26:56 -0300 References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <9e0440a60908260647l4f5f7382v4edfcaaa3d80699d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Sad news.. i did not know that abour Eberhard. I'been listening to =20 Pendulum for a long time. I'll be sending good wishes. Ariel. El 26/08/2009, a las 14:37, Matthias Grob escribi=F3: > Eberhard Weber From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 04:09:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 575873BE79; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mRzBGxaEIw/qE7iuTMVk/PYXi6m791vQWOT/avPZH6Y=; b=FhpuXs86Q+qk8xk9N7JfPX99JRPlOwAuOLkxljOhwmC69Co0KyQTy48f5ljcv2tEYb Rc79Wl6tkP1uWY28iBdCqUoIbduYLbrsvEKNB+rNpKLoLQUWAVihEz/7DhuQRwSSob0X YU+9e9hIwtcPAeeItgTBMRbcAcCnDEclvxeAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZL1HX+hHlSi4vJWDmSJqvIavR0nN0/1+V7z8OH92ghG9S47qmrtRTtlcC0+RbuhMSY CCH5zlLjWcgcNTQdqby/pth0zJKv2fWaNCHFpcWlmvz+/aeziR4/SiHKVxIQa8GI0AQn DIsQYwKSpJddHpwWan0PsAlhd7agCpzol0l5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908261205g5d522782hb71d534b65c8535d@mail.gmail.com> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <5DC078B0-A1FB-4094-BDA2-C86B17E18F3B@charter.net> <4A9581AF.7000707@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0908261205g5d522782hb71d534b65c8535d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:09:56 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0908262109l11414c97h56aceb1d38a53015@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:09:58 +0000 (UTC) The discussion of Terje Rypdal's Odyssey got me to listen again to it after many years. I first heard it in the 1977 when I was I was a teenage high school student in Wichita Kansas combing the local record stores for anything that had that spacey 70s extended Miles groove jam thing going on. Odyssey is a little restrained compared to Miles, unsurprising for an ECM release I guess, but I'm still enjoying it. The spacey and sparse soloing and use of bits of noise and distortion over a repetitive bass isn't that far from modern electronica in some ways. The trombone is a nice touch, not enough rock bands with a trombone : ) ECM dropped the most "masturbatory" track from the CD reissue. "Rolling Stone" is 23 minutes of soloing, stabs of Miles' kind of organ here and there, and some string synth over the same basic bass riff. Unsurprisingly, it's out there on the blogosphere along with a live recording of the same band in 1974 performing the same songs on the Odyssey album. I haven't heard all of it yet, but what I have heard is my kind of music. There's no accounting for taste. http://silveradoraremusic.blogspot.com/2009/01/terje-rypdal-entire-odyssey-album-with.html Rypdal's two earlier ECM albums, "Terje Rypdal" from 1971 and "What comes after" from 1973 have a very similar feel to Odyssey. He has an album from 1968 that's not on ECM called "Bleak House" that is very different, it's basically a rock and roll record, but not a bad one. He hadn't developed his singular style of playing then. Per, I'm jealous, I would have loved to see the Odyssey band live. It's funny the loudest band I ever heard perform was the Phillip Glass Ensemble! Absolutely deafening! I've heard that Miles wanted Rypdal in his 70s band at one point. Rypdal's 2006 album Vossabrygg is another one I like, an homage to Miles of sorts, and surprisingly similar to Odyssey considering the passing of 30 years time. I'd say Odyssey is one of the more important albums in Rypdal's catalog and shows the deep influence that Miles Davis had on Rypdal's music. It's not ECM, but I like the album Rypdal did with Ronni le Tekro. It's some weird, warped kind of shredding contest. Of all Rypdal's ECM recordings, my two favorites are 1. Waves and 2. Descendre. That opening track on Waves with the cheesy drum machine is just so odd, beautiful, melodic and unique. It's got a strange "lounge" Herb Alpert kind of sound that really comes out of left field, but it has aged really well. Rypdal also does some very interesting Guitar Synth work on Barre Phillips "Three Day Moon" album on ECM. That's a hard one to find, but I think it's in print, at least in Japan. Now that I think about it, it's really amazing that Rypdal never recorded any solo looping work. The sound of his guitar is perfectly suited to looping. Oh well. I'm not a fan of Jan Garbarek, but this early track from his 1971 album "Afric Popperbird" with Rypdal, Arild Andersen and Jon Christensen was a real treat: http://cosmiccheese.blogspot.com/2009/05/jan-garberak-beast-of-kommodo-afric.html -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 04:43:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D4793BE75; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HT7w6LggQkicqDQG5r/ZPPidmE1bxNmdGEUN+TofHpE=; b=I6izd5VEAuqIwkO8klSq/u38phBp+OyIlioO8QCf10+mXQolEow/m6WVgRmnPojiJS I1Fx9uz4Y+mM6AX2cDQrFr+MLUp5FukZuA5qq0XwsvjBU5uQbW2SfoDjqzTjnM/QgISU 1C9AcMTou+7D8dS2QR1WpPRXpee0N3ZRLgDeQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ja1rewv5ztR4l75pNSo4LZvnrsuRYxiSVV48e7UKGIsKeuEQtGAgIHv2XSA7TZDLLE 6aDDK3mUIpTRuvQIVxtVxKu0BJJrYiLi1NW1fQfJ2bZHfybwTgTZ5ntokwZbo3r6fTBF PUfqxy/OwgaV9Wdi0SyegysHn3bcujpbsTtIA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:43:27 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908262143g1dd3f9fclef6d2fc3e9d1b4dc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: acoustic oriented looper and VSV reminder From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517475742711d3504721835f1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:43:30 +0000 (UTC) --001517475742711d3504721835f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While following up on our page for the Virtual Sound & Vision Festival My Space page (www.myspace.com/vsvfestival) I found this video that I think is rather worth a look. Very Steve Reich influenced which always grabs my ears and largely working with the acoustic guitar plus a few other things and loops. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B47WE-lrxqw&feature=player_embedded Btw, anybody in the community here who is thinking about joining us in the VSV fest but has yet to apply please go to the My Space link and followthrough - time is ticking. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001517475742711d3504721835f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While following up on our page for the Virtual Sound & Vision Festival = My Space page (www.myspace.c= om/vsvfestival) I found this video that I think is rather worth a look.= =A0Very Steve Reich influenced which always grabs my ears and largely work= ing with the acoustic guitar plus a few other things and loops.


    Btw= , anybody in the community here who is thinking about joining us in the VSV= fest but has yet to apply please go to the My Space link and followthrough= - time is ticking.

    --001517475742711d3504721835f1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 04:55:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3D363BE72; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:55:04 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote about glitch techniques: "Often it is the high speed frequency of manipulations that gives that glitchy sound character but there is a way to glitch without scripting and that is to apply no quantization or a very short 16ths Per Cycle setting as the quantization base." Yeah, Per is correct here..................in the Looperlative I've been setting what is called Quantize Replace (which is the same thing as quantized INS=SUS in the EDP----also called the same in Mobius?) by setting this quantized replace function to 64th slices. In the Looperlative each slice is called a 'Q Step'. In the Looperlative you can either 'cut' in little glitchy 64th notes that replace 1/64 of your loop that already exists (frequently with purely random pushes of a midi pedal) or you can 'cut' them in on top of what you already have. I believe the Looperlative will allow up to a 128 'Q Step' slices per loop. A lot of times, I just like to set the number very high but NOT on a multiple of 3 or 4 just so it has a more random rhythmic quality to the 'slicing'.. *********** *********** Also, we're working now on an analogue footpedal idea I have called the Walker Manual Glitch pedal that will , essentially allow one to do one of two things, manually with a set of momentary switches (comforming to five fingers on two hands): 1) either cut out the sound, audibly when the momentary switch is disengaged (a push cuts sound out) or 2) allow sound from an original source to pass from silence. (momentary push lets sound through) What will be cool about this technique is that one can either quickly 'flutter' ones fingers to cause random glitchiness or in the reverse mode, one can play very articulate rhythmic patterns using a random ambient loop as the source sound for each 'rhythmic' chunk. Of course to utilize this in looping it means one would want to run this between two looping pedals. 1st looper (ambient loop) ====> Manual Glitch Pedal (in Silent mode that passes audio randomly or rhythmically with momentary switch control) ======> 2nd looper to loop the results (especially effective as one can use an arbitrary loop length in the first pedal and recontextualize a new rhythmic loop utilizing this technique. It also would not allow for cutting new sound into the previous loop like the EDP, Mobius and Looperlative. It only will deal in silence or lack of silence. We have a shot at presenting a prototype at the Y2K9 Live Looping Festival on October 16th. I'll let everyone know if this is true. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 06:35:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7167B3BE75; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: FW: ECM guitarists Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:35:40 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcomzaVQcAQaePFyRp+ixAysKVAEvAAAFhOgAASkY1A= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <3C3IwC.A.Q2H.DlilKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Matthias wrote: " he had a stroke about 2 years ago and did not manage to play again since :-(" Very sorry to hear that, I got to hear him play live and his electric sound was really striking, very vocal and expressive. For that matter Terje Rypdal isn't in the best of health either though I'm not sure of the details. One track on Odyssey sounds to me like he might be playing a fender bass VI which is more of an early electric baritone, he plays a really long solo that gets lower and lower, out of range of normal guitar. I haven't owned that album in many years but I seem to recall trying to find those low notes on my guitar and being thwarted, he's holding it on the back cover. Per wrote: "Since having heard Odyssey I went to some of his gigs in the late seventies and was always amazed by how loud they played. It was like "Jimi Hendrix goes jazz" (earthquake volume) and not at all as "delicate" as I had expected the live act to be after hearing the records." I can believe that, I saw Return to Forever with Bill Connors play in a small club in San Francisco and it was Marshall Stack Loud, same with the first time I saw The Mahavishnu Orchestra at Winterland, blazing loud. Those early fusion bands enjoyed their amp stacks. Of course Billy Cobham and Lenny White had a lot to do with ratcheting up the volume. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 07:56:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C7C53BE75; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6dekc2vSn/oj8kwKi4F+hL8WpeT/PtIVJWJ3lJ0xIgo=; b=aWHCkbGEdLImSc1iT2wEYZzop9HRtYA5mwO7+cguNRNekYuIRNvNkqPPdMnf/fMb/5 FiPVZHHwdYEXWa5ORv8y5nMu+lkV7U3jQta50RG7wN9SHi0gMfVyJVhm8/JPM+oqE8ms 2zWQ18a8c7zYIih1Cg+K9uSuK9AlA+lMgXaLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SnzW+eLpkeVxFv7O27Q6c0DeycyDcAIoaFDPK7O7JUMHyadEoW2szhTRFPeyQkdLvN yBuOv6PXT8MDLDZi/px7g7vqemgYIMDhBSpGMFlRlB2bfzAuINE7NDLZ0uMy3AqmW0uV tT51jFm9FY24/z6i9UK0d1l30ZvONCa5evIDE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:56:31 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdcc8d7458204721ae71c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:56:32 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdcc8d7458204721ae71c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use your work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound editor and I record an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I cut out samples out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there actually owns my freedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can cut out samples from a movie he once did? But of course these sampling questions are very controversial. I have no desire to start a long flaming discussion. Just cleared up my position on that. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Milo wrote: > No, it is not illegal to sample. What is illegal (and immoral) is to > use someone's work without asking for written permission. If you ask > the right person nicely, you will get the license 90% of the time. A > friend of mine recently obtained a license from a very famous movie > director, to use a sample from his latest movie. Guess what, he gave > his permission for free as long as the sample is not used in another > movie... :-) > > --0015174bdcc8d7458204721ae71c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use
    y= our work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound editor and
    I r= ecord an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I cut out samples out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there actually owns myfreedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can cut out sample= s
    from a movie he once did?

    But of course these sampling question= s are very controversial. I have no desire to start
    a long flaming discussion. Just cleared up my position on that.

    On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Milo <milo.vuc@gmail.com> wrote:
    No, it is not ill= egal to sample. What is illegal (and immoral) is to
    use someone's work without asking for written permission. If you ask the right person nicely, you will get the license 90% of the time. A
    friend of mine recently obtained a license from a very famous movie
    director, to use a sample from his latest movie. Guess what, he gave
    his permission for free as long as the sample is not used in another
    movie... :-)


    --0015174bdcc8d7458204721ae71c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 08:05:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8B6C3BE72; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LpH9PEGsM3leA8GS/F4i/w)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:05:57 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:05:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_LpH9PEGsM3leA8GS/F4i/w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You just started a long flaming discussion. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Samples and looping I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use your work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound editor and I record an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I cut out samples out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there actually owns my freedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can cut out samples from a movie he once did? But of course these sampling questions are very controversial. I have no desire to start a long flaming discussion. Just cleared up my position on that. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Milo wrote: No, it is not illegal to sample. What is illegal (and immoral) is to use someone's work without asking for written permission. If you ask the right person nicely, you will get the license 90% of the time. A friend of mine recently obtained a license from a very famous movie director, to use a sample from his latest movie. Guess what, he gave his permission for free as long as the sample is not used in another movie... :-) --Boundary_(ID_LpH9PEGsM3leA8GS/F4i/w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
    You just started a long flaming discussion.
     
    t
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:56 AM
    Subject: Re: Samples and looping

    I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use
    your work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound editor and
    I record an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I cut out samples
    out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there actually owns my
    freedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can cut out samples
    from a movie he once did?

    But of course these sampling questions are very controversial. I have no desire to start
    a long flaming discussion. Just cleared up my position on that.

    On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Milo <milo.vuc@gmail.com> wrote:
    No, it is not illegal to sample. What is illegal (and immoral) is to
    use someone's work without asking for written permission. If you ask
    the right person nicely, you will get the license 90% of the time. A
    friend of mine recently obtained a license from a very famous movie
    director, to use a sample from his latest movie. Guess what, he gave
    his permission for free as long as the sample is not used in another
    movie... :-)


    --Boundary_(ID_LpH9PEGsM3leA8GS/F4i/w)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 08:20:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B9693BE79; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=agKEhCdPIc6IoN3Z3Tx88L3Bybj6NygigU1WwSDD2ZI=; b=IDajhbRRIX9L7WGGnnhAhX8qarwb3wj2YgmhoDUI1L+uJqlODVT2SnLiO2Q7i74Z6c +ejQ+XQI+DjdCFr+mpapTjuvCXAG3HZ8B52w8+xojIwjgns6Z2mlWK5T7aevQ4cRJ1R9 eDvb+ZHxUJOX/QVKmKlywaS4+iO+5Q4UbbssQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s/dP1trOLqaPBKNXDv7D9cVywInxKXHonQS2XbXwnQI/qzVXrhRHisFUjJEbxcnGtb R4PRW7zeUWmRPLDtP7VeBKnfyFdeISqawVdUGY4XzMc3WAz5jXr7KPRNNpFh2I0vB3Lg 8lr2x1VuvczqjNuIuEq29+CSEmX6EQ/UHl2bM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:20:42 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908270120g1d746163k8a4a1494ba583bb0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:20:43 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Louigi Verona wrote: > I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use > your work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound editor and > I record an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I cut out samples > out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there actually owns my > freedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can cut out samples > from a movie he once did? Not at all. At your home, or in your studio, you are free to do whatever you want to other people's work without a permission. The legal regulation only applies for public use of the recordings you make that way. This is of course different if the owner of the original work has explicitly made clear that parts of his/her work can be used by others in their derivative work. If you are interested in that kind of generic open collaboration you can read more at http://creativecommons.org. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 08:22:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A2F63BE6F; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TRsCA8Rg1S/vpJY8okpfolVA6IOJYO2jzNtLmq0YYxk=; b=KnxN+MP8Xyty5CiqleQqGxL1nc0zT65BDI0kcaeYifTCkywd8XITGr+obu14SUXoMt PP9UAkO1I66JQZYu01/qeDE4P0ExXuFvNZjl4CroTGvROvlk0FCrRzTNjHCB3v9PPqCp MizL1CuvjLpVOqhvQPgHdrmGHOU3C3QiFLbS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FvrNh78G/i9PYKX4QmcoGQTR71vNrjAynTvfyG5o5qGLwyIU8PQyi4bVhjeMHsGBfP yHZyrfhQUvC0jdcggW8jZu1+b2aH2Wtnnn6u6H640bFWm/eMo8yNMTWVcqZP0tB0Mf6P 5yEbiUXyIyifFhHDTvSwq7M4Gr+XdG3WQR/qw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:22:37 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908270122x6d6fc9cara57b366ad3524205@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174765b036f98c04721b4563 Resent-Message-ID: <0v1fdB.A.0ME.OJklKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:22:39 +0000 (UTC) --0015174765b036f98c04721b4563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oops! ;) nah. to end this right away I'll say this - no matter what each one of us says, after the discussions it is unlikely someone's opinion will change. I think most of us are normal decent people and no matter how one views sampling, I think none of us really wants any harm done to the society. And I have yet to see a case when sampling is not an overblown matter and actually does serious harm to someone. Louigi. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Toby G wrote: > You just started a long flaming discussion. > > t > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Louigi Verona > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:56 AM > *Subject:* Re: Samples and looping > > I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use > your work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound editor and > I record an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I cut out samples > out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there actually owns my > freedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can cut out samples > from a movie he once did? > > But of course these sampling questions are very controversial. I have no > desire to start > a long flaming discussion. Just cleared up my position on that. > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Milo wrote: > >> No, it is not illegal to sample. What is illegal (and immoral) is to >> use someone's work without asking for written permission. If you ask >> the right person nicely, you will get the license 90% of the time. A >> friend of mine recently obtained a license from a very famous movie >> director, to use a sample from his latest movie. Guess what, he gave >> his permission for free as long as the sample is not used in another >> movie... :-) >> >> > --0015174765b036f98c04721b4563 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oops! ;)
    nah. to end this right away I'll say this - no matter what = each one of us says,
    after the discussions it is unlikely someone's = opinion will change. I think
    most of us are normal decent people and no = matter how one views sampling,
    I think none of us really wants any harm done to the society. And I have ye= t to
    see a case when sampling is not an overblown matter and actually do= es serious
    harm to someone.

    Louigi.

    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
    You just started=A0a long flaming=20 discussion.
    =A0
    t
    <= div class=3D"h5">
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Louigi=20 Verona
    Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12= :56=20 AM
    Subject: Re: Samples and looping

    I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time th= ey=20 wanna use
    your work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound e= ditor=20 and
    I record an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I cut ou= t=20 samples
    out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there actual= ly=20 owns my
    freedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can cu= t out=20 samples
    from a movie he once did?

    But of course these sampling= =20 questions are very controversial. I have no desire to start
    a long fla= ming=20 discussion. Just cleared up my position on that.

    On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Milo <milo.= vuc@gmail.com> wrote:
    No, it is not i= llegal to sample. What is illegal (and=20 immoral) is to
    use someone's work without asking for written per= mission.=20 If you ask
    the right person nicely, you will get the license 90% of = the=20 time. A
    friend of mine recently obtained a license from a very famou= s=20 movie
    director, to use a sample from his latest movie. Guess what, h= e=20 gave
    his permission for free as long as the sample is not used in=20 another
    movie... :-)



    --0015174765b036f98c04721b4563-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 08:27:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 506723BE73; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=/QKViIAS+CfCOzF4zJ8U4ANa2J+P6uUiVFeXxKvNSMo=; b=X8Qaj3yJDUTFmtRpYxborG40Tkv3Tg/ING5pCo72ZzExdzQyxuAJPnc5Ts5y2h0mFM D/FjUdIDn9FbJE3l8ms4h8KWX9EaxpN8fxLEKsXPiSs6A+Yk4kysA4s+CCt4c0unaQXd 7b+vPFwp5VcRHPCphbv0aZDTBwTy5cthgKRh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=uvYeZzR4wzMG7hEf205HGp2Ypzev8fi3uwKsGDhIFo7KRYDQzxN8MOzIj6JQBKjVft pAewmo60M8Wo22C1FDS8pXLAu9O7QqOSSM9CmNuFeB06/2owTU8XqyEaJyKklNAkZqcM zU7YtpxRIrx5+U3Uq0F0whskWYKi+1cDGtfRI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:27:14 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4d6781c89acf3fa0 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c371ce0da8c04721b5681 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:27:36 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c371ce0da8c04721b5681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > 1) either cut out the sound, audibly when the momentary switch is > disengaged (a push cuts sound out) > or > 2) allow sound from an original source to pass from silence. (momentary > push lets sound through) > Cool Rick... I first saw this technique performed by the guitarist of Melt Banana (worth a live listen) where he had a momentory footswitch that was switching between his guitar and a minidisk, that was filled with noise, radio, distorted voice etc... a quick press would cut his (very noisy) guitar and cut IN this minidisk... this he did by hammering furiously with his feet... m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c371ce0da8c04721b5681 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Rick Wa= lker <looppool@= cruzio.com> wrote:
    1) either cut out the sound, =A0audibly wh= en the momentary switch is disengaged =A0(a push cuts sound out)
    or
    2) allow sound from an original source to pass from silence. =A0 (momentary= push lets sound through)

    Cool Rick...

    I first saw this technique= performed by the guitarist of Melt Banana (worth a live listen) where he h= ad a momentory footswitch that was switching between his guitar and a minid= isk, that was filled with noise, radio, distorted voice etc... a quick pres= s would cut his (very noisy) guitar and cut IN this minidisk... this he did= by hammering furiously with his feet...

    m

    --
    = www.markfrancombe.com
    http:/= /vimeo.com/user825094
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    --0015174c371ce0da8c04721b5681-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 08:40:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84BE13BE7C; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0B8gvjij1YeoKYNS4qnbfZahrHb14rKLhKFSQdHIh80=; b=QuazNDC06I6wliBo8Xk1FT7p66W2PBmMC0dApwAKEOarxWONXOvsQ9h5CNI4EssoIP xEyDE4tz3fVDkoB4YqI9QeZgmAGV2SAeVpNOgr6STwXiPeTH19CH7ruLNgz81VXd8aT3 7His7DEnhhAjGNzi0B7rDvICXY0DFGPPZOzpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g5/67DKLe8zB5av3xzWoH1xCn17BDkgKh7Vw5C76RtjC2IV/uzi7OMCB20/xqY+iuK s2pD92eJATlkTJl9es2FhFkR+/KyWC4Wcm9/UQp8zbURtKpRvP6eSFa0yxUPHMUooZ5M X3AHL/R20CWzDGhey5svNezi/h+5NxrQHOmds= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:40:14 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-LmQwC.A.ayE.vZklKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:40:15 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I first saw this technique performed by the guitarist of Melt Banana (worth > a live listen) where he had a momentory footswitch that was switching > between his guitar and a minidisk, that was filled with noise, radio, > distorted voice etc... a quick press would cut his (very noisy) guitar and > cut IN this minidisk... this he did by hammering furiously with his feet... > If you play live, rather then snag you played noise to a minidisk, you can set up a chain of distortion or EQ pedals and tap dance on them to glitch the on-going musical phrase. Also, some old phaser stomp boxes when forced to work at very low resolution by feeding them an extremely low input level tend to start changing sound phase in a step for step way rather than the usual continuous flow of phase shifting. Or why not try our friend Henry Kaiser's trademark technique to use square wave modulation - a square wave can be trusted to glitch up just about anything is set to modulate. pboy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 08:47:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FCCD3BE8D; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=5bzrY5KlRO5jAqrb+FaZ5S0nWvVEVifoSgjinoNb0Sk=; b=b7Bg5grq7aaGaFglmBAFgumKWfG3UXAmv4spVeOXAFIzSOC/ZlrDv0BMfECT9sPizD y5qKJmeRtSFGaoBeUzUQ7ThjEjWsbLE8i6mygJ3kMwCZSsMj85bAYGRRD67BZ6JyQJgs l0pibTT9UzhjS5EshkFFtqfIPXYIh54cQ3ohY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Mh3cpZapC4wEl/0AsbCQ/uXhKS3f/lIOegSqIEtf8q9sk/+1G1e9uxejc8UNPvIe8+ DkUSK8wOH7tRiNubKJrqHSz0m8vcyWM44GdgifItEhT4e2cUAxGEPplXC8TllEYJz89+ wE8W8vj++wh7RB6/7pp0EOOQzIT8vR6/ewTVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:47:22 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 02472b7d9ff53cb3 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5986de1e4db04721b9e40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:47:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5986de1e4db04721b9e40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Also, some old phaser stomp boxes > when forced to work at very low resolution by feeding them an > extremely low input level tend to start changing sound phase in a step > for step way rather than the usual continuous flow of phase shifting. > Which??? I wanna know now.. not the Small Stone by any chance... wheres some batteries?? > > Or why not try our friend Henry Kaiser's trademark technique to use > square wave modulation - a square wave can be trusted to glitch up > just about anything is set to modulate. > Really.. what did Henry modulate with square waves? -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5986de1e4db04721b9e40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Per Bo= ysen <perboysen= @gmail.com> wrote:
    Also, some old phaser stomp boxes
    when forced to work at very low resolution by feeding them an
    extremely low input level tend to start changing sound phase in a step
    for step way rather than the usual continuous flow of phase shifting.
    =

    Which??? I wanna know now.. not the Small Stone by an= y chance... wheres some batteries??

    Or why not try our friend Henry Kaiser's trademark technique to use
    square wave modulation - a square wave can be trusted to glitch up
    just about anything is set to modulate.

    Really..= what did Henry modulate with square waves?
    =A0



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    --001636c5986de1e4db04721b9e40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 08:53:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DFB73BE88; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lm6Ix4X2RTJE/KK6wB+Nsg)" Message-id: <1B8416FBA29C4F0EAC15B95BF211AE9A@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:52:57 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:53:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_lm6Ix4X2RTJE/KK6wB+Nsg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes, it would be perfect to use two square waves at different frequencies added together as modulation. Or do logical ops on them. AND, OR. That'll glitch ya. t ----- Original Message ----- From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:47 AM Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: Also, some old phaser stomp boxes when forced to work at very low resolution by feeding them an extremely low input level tend to start changing sound phase in a step for step way rather than the usual continuous flow of phase shifting. Which??? I wanna know now.. not the Small Stone by any chance... wheres some batteries?? Or why not try our friend Henry Kaiser's trademark technique to use square wave modulation - a square wave can be trusted to glitch up just about anything is set to modulate. Really.. what did Henry modulate with square waves? -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --Boundary_(ID_lm6Ix4X2RTJE/KK6wB+Nsg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
    Yes, it would be perfect to use two square waves at different frequencies added together as modulation.  Or do logical ops on them. AND, OR.  That'll glitch ya.
     
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    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
    Also, some old phaser stomp boxes
    when forced to work at very low resolution by feeding them an
    extremely low input level tend to start changing sound phase in a step
    for step way rather than the usual continuous flow of phase shifting.

    Which??? I wanna know now.. not the Small Stone by any chance... wheres some batteries??

    Or why not try our friend Henry Kaiser's trademark technique to use
    square wave modulation - a square wave can be trusted to glitch up
    just about anything is set to modulate.

    Really.. what did Henry modulate with square waves?
     



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    --Boundary_(ID_lm6Ix4X2RTJE/KK6wB+Nsg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 09:03:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75BD83BEA6; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 253355868/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.128.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.128.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAHHolUpPToAf/2dsb2JhbAAI13iEGQWKaA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,284,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="253355868" Message-ID: <4A964C1C.1030807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:04:28 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Per wrote about glitch techniques: > > Yeah, Per is correct here..................in the Looperlative I've been > setting what is called Quantize Replace (which is the same thing as > quantized INS=SUS > in the EDP-- on the EDP you have to do InsertMode = rPL or SUb Quantise = 8th 8th/Cycle = depends, start by setting it to 8, and use with 1s loop to get the idea >--also called the same in Mobius?) by > setting this quantized replace function to 64th slices. > > In the Looperlative each slice is called a 'Q Step'. > > In the Looperlative you can either 'cut' in little glitchy 64th notes > that replace 1/64 of your > loop that already exists (frequently with purely > random pushes of a midi pedal) or you can 'cut' them in on top of what > you already have. > I believe the Looperlative will allow up to a 128 'Q Step' slices per > loop. > A lot of times, I just like to set the number very high but NOT on a > multiple of > 3 or 4 just so it has a more random rhythmic quality to the 'slicing'.. Here's Rick demonstrating the technique with the loop divided into 8 http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/Norfest08/RW-Intro.mp3 The quantised replace is good for creating rhythms, it's not easy to get a predictable result, in Rick's case here he ends up with a riff very close to something that could be heard on a popular hip hop track which was around at the time of the performance. (no, I don't know who it's by, it was in the UK charts in 2008, and I doubt Rick's ever heard it). Using replace without quantise is also a nice technique, and easier to manipulate a loop rhythmically. It's effective to "cut in" a rhythm to a loop allowing you to change the feel without producing a cluttered sound. (check out Andre LaFosse). I don't know how Mobius copes with the quantised version of this effect ( the details of getting it to work are quite specific), but the non-quantised version is afaik fully featured, and incorporates the secondary feedback control. These replace functions work particularly well with the EDPs loop windowing function. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 09:58:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CADF53BE72; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A9658DB.2070400@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:58:51 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Matthias wrote: "For that matter Terje Rypdal isn't in the best of health either though I'm not sure of the details. One track on Odyssey sounds to me like he might be playing a fender bass VI which is more of an early electric baritone, he plays a really long solo that gets lower and lower, out of range of normal guitar. " God, I loved that track. I haven't checked because I impulsively sold all of my jazz albums when punk and new wave hit (I've done this over and over in my life............selling whole record collections of material I'm no longer listening to in order to buy new albums (CDs) of music that I'm suddenly in love with) but I think that track was called "Better Off Without You". When Rypdal plays a descending distorted langorous passage that goes lower and lower until it hit impossibly low notes for a guitar, it was the first time I'd ever heard some play a Fender Bass VI as a guitar and NOT a bass. My first band, the Concave Image (blush) that I formed as soon as I owned a snare drum (didn't even have a kit yet) had a bass player, David Handloff , who played a beautiful white Fender Bass VI with a gorgeous red pick guard. I had no idea what that instrument could do. It was an oddity to me then and sounded very weird on 'Just Like Me' by Paul Revere and the Raiders. God, how could we be so naive in those days. Anyway, it was one of the first times in my life that I left the Rock /Soul/Funk paradigm and realized that instruments could be recontextualized to sound differently. It led me to use a Electro Harmonix Micro POG and a mini BASS MUFF on a baritone ukulele or a strumstick and make them sound like GOD!!!!!!!! Thanks for mentioning that record. I just loved Odyssey. I was just thinking what Eberhard Weber, Terje Rypdal, Jon Christiansen, Jan Garbarek and many of the other ECM stable musicians would sound like if they got into live looping stuff. They were already investigating the notion of trance in a delicious blend of European classical music with a black American improvisatory approach. I loved how Jon Christiansen (one of the single most influential drummers in my own career) played jazz but only used 8th and 16th notes instead of swung notes ala the black 'swing' tradition. The only other guy I can think of who used the exact same approach was Ginger Baker, before him. He was more 'rock' but they both eschewed 'swing' in their improvisations and the whole world became a lot bigger for me as a drummer. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 10:00:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF8CC3BE77; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=baSX6pm3I2jLBcvXlwUyUr++IcjemDOwQ5kAea/27vY=; b=cct5UeovWXzx7dxPqXU0sbrSiqHvVqs01y0iMHsbynHr1k1GHP2A7/pzjGCWKmDXEq YikMpwBQKRHgmI2cqI19BiFGj2zyuSrgxQ6ngdodh+n0tm3+TWrTfKmz2QpsbNJFb4UE UZnldixkEphw23acOype7h3dhVocvoTd7odwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a9V5Ou7XtRWijuRO9aRaqWRP9YJcSLiPv7QPQqmaT9wIehSz2paEswCtxmEnUwI3lT y9JADOqRQ2XbNNyFmwxlpnZgYHhB0jUqlD8HconylTgXHbNnwVeAkR9cVg1LZjih1B30 J2G0t2SNENzYEsK8tVYk4+Ohq7QXq98lh5kUo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:00:34 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908270300n223ad96fxe947647c7534b00c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:00:35 +0000 (UTC) > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Also, some old phaser stomp boxes >> when forced to work at very low resolution by feeding them an >> extremely low input level tend to start changing sound phase in a step >> for step way rather than the usual continuous flow of phase shifting. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:47 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Which??? I wanna know now.. not the Small Stone by any chance... Sorry, don't remember. But it was green... or purple. Bought around -79/-80. Definitely not the Small Stone though. Could have been Ibanez? >> Or why not try our friend Henry Kaiser's trademark technique to use >> square wave modulation - a square wave can be trusted to glitch up >> just about anything is set to modulate. > > Really.. what did Henry modulate with square waves? I'm not sure, better ask him. A guess is that some output volume got square wave modulated because it sometimes sounded like a pneumatic drill or a machine gun. Not sure "glitchy" would be appropriate to describe that sound ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 10:12:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CE463BE8C; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HAdpfqeT4k3BBJ1Y+BjQSOjHTLRSNF4Emo+OxfoYErM=; b=l74O0bIL4P9iLhmWMOow3oW6QmdXKxj+71NcynOWy3F9QEZZXFCr7qQHCSIuB9FO9Y GkhwdfkDab/Qq/j+cbdofYMhGmd7XYuvGfq+tnNHKwThBwQCTR7aagxiK0WWSiuIsvg5 r/CNiz7vd9/G3H/GgnQnUC2nzOEdqiCdG7ulw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tIyInBujgtNhWCQD0UJrwLJokz9r8uLKSUMBAblLGf5VSIv3JY8sE5BtZ/pncvY5o5 1FukXO0aP8t6WhVskioaIuhgDlkwXA7mKrOVfiynn+Zh8830CFg1zW+WbB0OfW+FEbuR MSjcKC4fSwkbgs3hy/SO64cdMkCp5lszosPT0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A9658DB.2070400@cruzio.com> References: <4A9658DB.2070400@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:12:49 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908270312g1b250344y4947aabc60d09335@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:12:50 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I was just thinking what Eberhard Weber, Terje Rypdal, =C2=A0Jon Christia= nsen, > =C2=A0Jan Garbarek and many of the other ECM stable musicians would sound= like if > they got into live looping stuff. > They were already investigating the notion of trance in a delicious blend= of > European classical music with a black American improvisatory approach. When John Abercrombie was the guest in Jason Crane's Jazz Session Podcast he told about the trick they used for those first recordings with Manfred Eicher. They simply set up the main rule as "improvise everything but adapt your playing to make it sound as if it were composed music being performed". I only heard about this recently but have always loved that attitude for my own playing and I think many actually use this method to generate music that is afterwards published as compositions. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 10:19:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 541093BE91; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A965DA3.5060904@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:19:15 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT: Rise of Amplifier Volume in Popular Live Music Performance in the early 70's (was ECM guitarists) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Bill Walker wrote: "Of course Billy Cobham and Lenny White had a lot to do with ratcheting up the volume. " True Bill.................I was with you at those exciting and mind bending concerts (we were the ONLY ones at Winterland who were standing up with our mouths agape at the sound of a 3rd bill group, Mahavishnu, playing "Inner Mounting Flame" two weeks before they even release it on Columbia records......................what a life changing experience that was)..... ........but, honestly, I have a different take on the whole ratcheting up of the volume controversy. I don't think it was Cobham and Lenny White (despite their immense power and volume) who were responsible for ratcheting up the volume in the earliest days of fusion. Hendrix, the Who and Blue Cheer had ramped up the volume with their guitar amps in the 60's but they were using 50 and 100 watt amplifiers at the time. I remember hearing the Jefferson Airplane debut 'Surrealistic Pillow" two weeks before they released that record at Frost Ampitheater at Stanford with a large collection of Fender Twin Reverbs and a smallish P.A. system for the vocals and drums and it was deafeningly loud. Remember that the Beatles played Shea Stadium in New York with a Bogen P.A. system that amplified the vocals and NOT the guitars or the drums. Go check out the film footage from this era. The screaming teenage girls so drowned out the music that it made the Beatles give up performing live for good. Ringo Starr started a whole new school of studio drumming by playing fills at weird times when the screaming would subside a little bit, allowing him to actually even hear his own drum set. By the early 70's, however, people were using Fender Dual Showmans and Marshall stacks and the wattage went through the roof. Then equipment changed and the volume of modern popular music went through the roof in the early 70's. Any acoustic trapset drummer will tell you that when you compete with a Marshall Stack, that a guitar is VASTLY louder than an acoustic un-miced drumset. I've rehearsed with loud bands where I played a huge Vistalite Ludwig kit with double 22" inch kicks large sized toms where I was completely drowned out by the guitarist. I'd get blisters trying to compete with the volume. I remember having a huge argument with the first guitarist in Tao Chemical where I insisted that he put his guitar on the side of the stage pointed directly at his ears (where I , the drummer had to sit for years before taking the brunt of his loud trebly sound) so that he would turn his volume down. I got huge blisters on my hands from playing as hard as I could to compete and I had no nuance whatsoever in my playing. It made me stronger competing but certainly not subtler. ******* Nowaday, the average kid can spend $300 on a guitar amplifier on sale that can blow the hell out of the loudest acoustic drummers. Add to this the incredible reduction in dollar (euro/pound/yen) per watt that has occurred in modern sound reinforcement and the prevalence of huge subwoofers powered by literally thousands of Watts at large venues and it's the technology that ramped up the volume NOT the drummer. LOL, okay, that's my drummerly rant about volume for the quarter. I'll be back with more obnoxious soap boxing about volume in three months.......................LOL Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 10:21:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2C3C3BE92; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:21:41 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:21:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Louigi Verona >I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use your >work. Make some of your own work - that is, something not containing someone elses' work - and get back to us when someone lifts and uses it without your permission. M'kay? Stephen Goodman * http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 10:27:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 998443BEA9; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UjfyEHqYufGilukMlEpt244AT7Ib9W+oll59xYjcu+o=; b=wFi1ZW+xSWjyyr7IQlCFUZZQvfCmKVl04tFS2A174tt25hOuLgcHoWJPfCa5MVsQmr maB62fxqPSq4S3k4xUfArGc8rrc2s5esWrl6tTcH8wPt9uUS8VxL8QxfoFBkrGFoxj16 h+2TrEbayrya1Lf/rvLi+mssfrFzYuspPW1ok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xnFXXzTvlFAr1pZI1LruTrGfvRvlYYbo4WDOiTArChTPvr02qc1JOtN7XdyWHOlRwr 59awn6tiPr9UwCpQCwAwf9rQXIo+5BBPVBSsyousZr3D/t+0TUaHXJyCxdbE5nhZViqN QEXDdPFg7DAu8818OUoV0ct8tj0sNBYL9io38= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908270300n223ad96fxe947647c7534b00c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270300n223ad96fxe947647c7534b00c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:27:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:27:03 +0000 (UTC) i think guitar rig comes with some components capable of this kind of lfo modulation. any users? 2009/8/27, Per Boysen : >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> Also, some old phaser stomp boxes >>> when forced to work at very low resolution by feeding them an >>> extremely low input level tend to start changing sound phase in a step >>> for step way rather than the usual continuous flow of phase shifting. > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:47 AM, mark francombe > wrote: >> Which??? I wanna know now.. not the Small Stone by any chance... > > Sorry, don't remember. But it was green... or purple. Bought around > -79/-80. Definitely not the Small Stone though. Could have been > Ibanez? > > >>> Or why not try our friend Henry Kaiser's trademark technique to use >>> square wave modulation - a square wave can be trusted to glitch up >>> just about anything is set to modulate. >> >> Really.. what did Henry modulate with square waves? > > I'm not sure, better ask him. A guess is that some output volume got > square wave modulated because it sometimes sounded like a pneumatic > drill or a machine gun. Not sure "glitchy" would be appropriate to > describe that sound ;-)) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 10:35:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4E7B3BE99; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A96617C.9030000@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:35:40 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8QRcdB.A.RyB.BGmlKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:35:45 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Metacollage" on Binary Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#aug I have two copies of "Metacollage" to give away so tune in to learn how to win one. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 10:36:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 982EB3BEAE; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=u7d6aKroRmiecOIAreQ/IQe2CIh1n7b+dKg40nUI8Nw=; b=XqpJilFBlFYiukE9yG0zN5RBxlsn/lVfCXrXcRxeRHB7UjqL88fps+6lFB+JQpPTZ7 3iwbDASBptJSsPkqNHtXWmq+nmMCHacZ7JCBrGYd0OMTsCM00tMwBWPPGVBRq6noHola GpgtP8oDL8x9ZYbFUL+9MqpovZWtjOfb26QjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iit9wfu+jHC6NnhKYQkitchISinrgH6K1VfLKkajF6oLDQzKB8HKMUr2/9nB9kaFK3 XG2RDyb8nPoW89Tr9P0gGZ4HstTiUxur2X+4/cfYCkCs90AzHi/GsymUZeMSOd9AW7yn wXFxReDg8pHQaMoZ6zSRNcySCs8hd7GEsqZ60= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:36:55 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908270336r4cff14f1qd8cf27857de45d3d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151744806479396f04721d2529 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:36:57 +0000 (UTC) --00151744806479396f04721d2529 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am actually a very prolific musician. My expertise lies not only in sampled music - in fact, I have only about two or three tunes which are sample based. The rest of the material is fully original. Please go to www.louigiverona.ru and find this out. You can use my music and sample it without my permission - I really do not enjoy a position of a semi-god who has to be asked every time someone makes a creative (or a non-creative) decision. In the faq section of the site I explicitly state this. Louigi. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > From: Louigi Verona > >> I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use >> your work. >> > > Make some of your own work - that is, something not containing someone > elses' work - and get back to us when someone lifts and uses it without your > permission. M'kay? > Stephen Goodman > * > http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman > http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman > > --00151744806479396f04721d2529 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am actually a very prolific musician. My expertise lies not only in sampl= ed music - in fact, I have only about two or three tunes which
    are sampl= e based. The rest of the material is fully original.
    Please go to www.louigiverona.ru and find this out.= You can use my music and sample it without my permission - I really do not= enjoy a position of
    a semi-god who has to be asked every time someone makes a creative (or a no= n-creative) decision. In the faq section of the site I explicitly state thi= s.

    Louigi.

    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at= 2:21 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
    From: Louigi Vero= na

    I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use your= work.

    Make some of your own work - that is, something not containing someone else= s' work - and get back to us when someone lifts and uses it without you= r permission. =A0M'kay?
    Stephen Goodman
    *
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    --00151744806479396f04721d2529-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 11:25:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE5B43BED8; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:25:28 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote about John Abercrombie's ECM sessions: */"They simply set up the main rule as "improvise everything but adapt your playing to make it sound as if it were composed music being performed". I only heard about this recently but have always loved that attitude for my own playing and I think many actually use this method to generate music that is afterwards published as compositions."/* Cool you mentioned this approach, Per. Bill and I have played improvisatory instrumental music together and separately since the mid 1970's and we've always used this particular approach to mask that we were playing improv. In the early days, we were, of course, just playing things like jams based off of Santana, Allman Brothers, Led Zepellin, Who, Hendrix and other groups. But we would play these really long gigs at college parties where, because we didn't have a singer in our trio, we had to play recognizable stuff.........danceable stuff.........and be able to stretch our sets out for several hours because we didn't have that much material worked up.......... In those days there was such a tradition of extended jams in rock and roll and funk so it made perfect sense. ***********************************8 I think Schoenberg is attributed with this quote, "All composition is very slow improvisation" I always tell my students "All improvisation CAN be very quick composition" I think that using the most avant garde and experimental musical techniques that one can bring so called 'difficult' music to mass audiences by using very simple forms and techniques like 'call and response', 'response and call', different simple forms found in most simple forms of popular music like ABAB, ABAC, ABCB, ABAC, and then compound forms using the same strategies. I remember distinctly, the first time I heard the Art Of Ensemble of Chicago play the track 'Theme De Yoyo" with Fontella Bass singing lead. This track was a straight up R&B horn band romp but playing traditionally for 7 bars and then suddenly, playing completely "out" for one bar, coming in , perfectly , on the downbeat to start the chorus over again. It was so funky................and so , well......................OUT!!!! ....had a huge impact on me. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 12:03:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CF153BE8A; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 253438956/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.128.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.128.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAJcSlkpPToAf/2dsb2JhbAAI13uEGQWBU4kV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,286,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="253438956" Message-ID: <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:04:26 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8r2nrB.A.8kF.UYnlKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:03:32 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > > > Or why not try our friend Henry Kaiser's trademark technique to use > square wave modulation - a square wave can be trusted to glitch up > just about anything is set to modulate. > > > Really.. what did Henry modulate with square waves? > > > He square wave modulated the delay time on a Lexicon PCM42( i think). He carefully set the amount of mod to give an interval change of one octave ( possibly other intervals). Then his sound through the delay would jump up, or down an octave. :-) try and pay attention, this has been discussed before. ( ...and if you wanna try a vst plugin version of that effect, just ask) andy ps http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2009/08/henry-kaiser-solo-guitar.html "Wonderful Life" is edited together improvs using that technique. and on Henry's latest cd it's still being used http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2009/08/henry-kaiser-solo-guitar.html I can confirm that if you paypal the guy $15, a cd is forthcoming. (sounds good, thanx Rick for recommendation, Jeff for source) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 12:30:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B17253BE81; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A967C70.1060905@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:30:40 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Put me on the waiting list, Walkers! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Also, we're working now on an analogue footpedal idea I have called the > Walker Manual Glitch pedal that will , essentially allow one to do one > of two things, > > manually with a set of momentary switches (comforming to five fingers > on two hands): > > 1) either cut out the sound, audibly when the momentary switch is > disengaged (a push cuts sound out) > or > 2) allow sound from an original source to pass from silence. > (momentary push lets sound through) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 12:35:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DEC73BE90; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1251376529; l=2950; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=sWcqg2UZ7ado3HNFM8GZ7yCmXFs=; b=W0dO5vQdGo3dmYDQW0b5UdfpVrQ6zI6OdMxYxugkKhsN17xXLiA6dNYxOYSq3E6cYIC IVyyyYnmaAT8XAwHCIHPDkesUhlUUJG37Cb9TG6vQAl5Gx5sZisUdpMkN+ZmucD0TZYDO Wy3+eDUSXWN6CWygHvEnLCsvOU7c1zMwbKY= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWbBObpUsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <027001ca2713$5f2a4cb0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <9e0440a60908260647l4f5f7382v4edfcaaa3d80699d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:49:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:35:31 +0000 (UTC) That´s interesting. Eberhard Weber is a bass player. So is it mainly bass looping, or what? What´s album title and when was it released? Best, Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > Pendulum is made by our friend Eberhard Weber and is one of the first > full livelooping records. > he had a strike about 2 years ago and did not manage to play again > since :-( > > On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:47, Jim Goodin wrote: > > > There's a Gartbarek album Frisell is on with one other person, I've > > forgotten the records title but has a wonderful piece called Pendulum. > > > > On 8/26/09, Christo Jota wrote: > >> The trio-album with Vitous and DeJohnette indeed is fantastic. > >> Rypdal was one of the early guys experimenting with a guitar synth. > >> And I think he did very well with it. > >> I love those spheric sounds flying in the skies and > >> bass and drums providing a cool rythm carpet. > >> Christo > >> www.christojota.de > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Daryl Shawn" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:16 AM > >> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > >> > >> > >>> Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out > >>> a lot > >>> of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a > >>> couple of the names. > >>> > >>> The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended > >>> online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest > >>> word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous > >>> and > >>> DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for > >>> the > >>> last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music. > >>> > >>> Daryl Shawn > >>> www.swanwelder.com > >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >>> > >>>> Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really > >>>> straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal > >>>> and > >>>> other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a > >>>> way > >>>> to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > > > music links... > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > > www.myspace.com/jindream > > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > > video work/editing... > > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > > > social networking... > > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 12:46:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AE163BE92; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1251377158; l=3249; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=EPNn0SkRh9dMFgFyy2THk8666r0=; b=hTmZQawTlulReYv5HgupPL5o22OYj8NY9Luu6M7VYCnPjLrpSeJQmmViAldnNTGq5bJ atnFJqnFtAugiax5uGn5E2SsSW8UuI05xvD4lT4gbAXvn2r7jzc1o5+xeLcjqxFX3MKAF hM/qo5vArJbzzRErMFnA5PjC22+2Aw12jE8= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWbBObpUsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:49:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:46:00 +0000 (UTC) I mentioned it in a similar way some time ago in our list: Sometimes I have recorded improvised material. When I listen to it, I´m thinking: "oh wow, that´s great. I should not miss this tune. Then the next step is to rehearse it and maybe even play it live in concerts or put it on an official Christo Jota-release or so. Maybe playing it a bit different but using the character of the track. By this way it becomes a CJ - composition that I can add to my programme. This means it´s thin line between improvisation and composition. Have a nice day! Christo www.myspace.com/christojota ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists > Per wrote about John Abercrombie's ECM sessions: > > */"They simply set up the main rule as "improvise > everything but adapt your playing to make it sound as if it were > composed music being performed". I only heard about this recently but > have always loved that attitude for my own playing and I think many > actually use this method to generate music that is afterwards > published as compositions."/* > > Cool you mentioned this approach, Per. > > Bill and I have played improvisatory instrumental music together and > separately since the mid > 1970's and we've always used this particular approach to mask that > we were playing improv. In the early days, we were, of course, just > playing things like jams based off of Santana, Allman Brothers, Led > Zepellin, > Who, Hendrix and other groups. But we would play these really long > gigs at college parties where, because we didn't have a singer in our trio, > we had to play recognizable stuff.........danceable stuff.........and be > able to stretch > our sets out for several hours because we didn't have that much material > worked up.......... > In those days there was such a tradition of extended jams in rock and > roll and funk so > it made perfect sense. > > ***********************************8 > > I think Schoenberg is attributed with this quote, > > "All composition is very slow improvisation" > > I always tell my students > > "All improvisation CAN be very quick composition" > > I think that using the most avant garde and experimental musical > techniques that one can bring > so called 'difficult' music to mass audiences by using very simple > forms and techniques like 'call and response', 'response and call', > different simple forms found in most simple forms of popular music like > ABAB, ABAC, ABCB, ABAC, and then compound forms > using the same strategies. > > I remember distinctly, the first time I heard the Art Of Ensemble of > Chicago > play the track 'Theme De Yoyo" with Fontella Bass singing lead. > > This track was a straight up R&B horn band romp but playing > traditionally for 7 bars and then suddenly, playing completely > "out" for one bar, coming in , perfectly , on the downbeat to start the > chorus over again. > > It was so funky................and so , well......................OUT!!!! > > ....had a huge impact on me. > > Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 13:21:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A1873BEA0; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270300n223ad96fxe947647c7534b00c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:20:53 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:21:24 +0000 (UTC) At 12:27 PM +0200 8/27/09, Raul Bonell wrote: >i think guitar rig comes with some components capable of this kind of >lfo modulation. When it comes to software, Ableton Live can do similar sorts of things, right out of the box. Just use (single or multiple) MIDI Clips to automate the level of an input's volume/phase/whatever... Adjust the rate to suit, but really, really fast is good for glitching. Or, since we're already in the digital domain, you can just get one of the various plugs that are purpose-designed for this very thing. <*shrug*> For hardware, Lightfoot Labs' Goatkeeper is really good for bizarre tremolo patterns. Of course, there's still the SL-20 Slicer too, and Rainer is sure to point out what a fantastic piece of hardware the Nord MicroModular is for any sort of S/H, AM or other modulation effect like this. The thing is, he's entirely correct on that point. Hey Rick! A good starting point for your glitch pedal might be to gut a Boss FS-5U momentary switch and run that into the Mute input of Bill's DT-7 Tuner. I've done similar things with a single FS-5U, but operated by my foot. The good thing about it is that you can reverse the polarity with a switch on the back. So that one minute it's passing the signal and cutting out only when you press the pedal, and the next it's muting everything and only passing signal when you press. I keep meaning to try that with a Y-cable and two FS-5U's (or an FS-6), to see if you can tap with both feet, BTW. But I don't see why you couldn't break one out of it's housing and use a contact switch/pad to do the same thing with your fingers. Personally, the first real mod I'm thinking about, though, is to replace the polarity dip switch on the back with an actual footswitch, so I can flip the pedal's polarity without having to bend down. Good luck with the new project!!! --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 13:25:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C63B23BEB9; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 83828 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:25:37 UTC Message-ID: <4390.68.36.127.56.1251379536.squirrel@mymail3.myregisteredsite.com> In-Reply-To: <027001ca2713$5f2a4cb0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <764357.38154.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37f071c00908201155k2a35662dv4f59ebaa4522de61@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908201202x6e0d20efv17b29063d89f6e69@mail.gmail.com> <4A947EDE.7020608@mhorse.com> <00ad01ca2643$c44793d0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <9e0440a60908260647l4f5f7382v4edfcaaa3d80699d@mail.gmail.com> <027001ca2713$5f2a4cb0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? From: "David Beardsley" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_20090827092536_98317" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:25:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_20090827092536_98317 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pendulum. > That´s interesting. Eberhard Weber is a bass player. > So is it mainly bass looping, or what? > What´s album title and when was it released? > Best, > Christo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthias Grob" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:37 PM > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? > > >> Pendulum is made by our friend Eberhard Weber and is one of the first >> full livelooping records. >> he had a strike about 2 years ago and did not manage to play again >> since :-( >> >> On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:47, Jim Goodin wrote: >> >> > There's a Gartbarek album Frisell is on with one other person, I've >> > forgotten the records title but has a wonderful piece called Pendulum. >> > >> > On 8/26/09, Christo Jota wrote: >> >> The trio-album with Vitous and DeJohnette indeed is fantastic. >> >> Rypdal was one of the early guys experimenting with a guitar synth. >> >> And I think he did very well with it. >> >> I love those spheric sounds flying in the skies and >> >> bass and drums providing a cool rythm carpet. >> >> Christo >> >> www.christojota.de >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Daryl Shawn" >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:16 AM >> >> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists? >> >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out >> >>> a lot >> >>> of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a >> >>> couple of the names. >> >>> >> >>> The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended >> >>> online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest >> >>> word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous >> >>> and >> >>> DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for >> >>> the >> >>> last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music. >> >>> >> >>> Daryl Shawn >> >>> www.swanwelder.com >> >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >>> >> >>>> Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really >> >>>> straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal >> >>>> and >> >>>> other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a >> >>>> way >> >>>> to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > >> > ReUse, an introspective textural aural >> > www.myspace.com/CtReUse >> > >> > music links... >> > www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >> > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >> > www.myspace.com/jindream >> > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > >> > video work/editing... >> > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >> > >> > social networking... >> > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > >> > > ------=_20090827092536_98317 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 
    Pendulum.


    > That´s interesting. Eberhard Weber is a bass player.
    > So is it mainly bass looping, or what?
    > What´s album title and when was it released?
    > Best,
    > Christo
    > ----- Original Message -----
    >
    From: "Matthias Grob" <matilists@gmail.com>
    > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:37 PM
    > Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists?
    >
    >
    >> Pendulum is made by our friend Eberhard Weber and is one of the first
    >> full livelooping records.
    >> he had a strike about 2 years ago and did not manage to play again
    >> since :-(
    >>
    >> On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:47, Jim Goodin wrote:
    >>
    >> > There's a Gartbarek album Frisell is on with one other person, I've
    >> > forgotten the records title but has a wonderful piece called Pendulum.
    >> >
    >> > On 8/26/09, Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
    >> >> The trio-album with Vitous and DeJohnette indeed is fantastic.
    >> >> Rypdal was one of the early guys experimenting with a guitar synth.
    >> >> And I think he did very well with it.
    >> >> I love those spheric sounds flying in the skies and
    >> >> bass and drums providing a cool rythm carpet.
    >> >> Christo
    >> >> www.christojota.de
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> >>
    From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
    >> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:16 AM
    >> >> Subject: Re: ? RE: ECM guitarists?
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>> Thanks for all the replies on this thread - I've been checking out
    >> >>> a lot
    >> >>> of stuff this week as I've always loved ECM but wasn't so aware of a
    >> >>> couple of the names.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> The first Rypdal I tried out was Odyssey, which was well-recommended
    >> >>> online as one of his best. I HATED it - masturbatory was the kindest
    >> >>> word I could think of. But then I tried the trio w/Miroslav Vitous
    >> >>> and
    >> >>> DeJohnette, and have been listening to it several times a day for
    >> >>> the
    >> >>> last three days, I absolutely love it. Beautiful and moving music.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Daryl Shawn
    >> >>> www.swanwelder.com
    >> >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> Terje Rypdal is another ambient GOD, capable of really
    >> >>>> straight-forward, gut-wrenching beauty, yet still sound ethereal
    >> >>>> and
    >> >>>> other-worldly. His catalog is huge though and you should find a
    >> >>>> way
    >> >>>> to browse to find which of his vast output you personally like. -m
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > --
    >> > Sent from my mobile device
    >> >
    >> > ReUse, an introspective textural aural
    >> > www.myspace.com/CtReUse
    >> >
    >> > music links...
    >> > www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    >> > www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    >> > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    >> > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
    >> > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
    >> > www.myspace.com/jindream
    >> > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
    >> >
    >> > video work/editing...
    >> > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
    >> >
    >> > social networking...
    >> > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
    >> >
    >>
    >
    > ------=_20090827092536_98317-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 14:00:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86D313BE86; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908270336r4cff14f1qd8cf27857de45d3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270336r4cff14f1qd8cf27857de45d3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:00:41 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Samples and looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:00:58 +0000 (UTC) At 2:36 PM +0400 8/27/09, Louigi Verona wrote: > >I really do not enjoy a position of a semi-god who has to be asked >every time someone makes a creative (or a non-creative) decision. In >the faq section of the site I explicitly state this. But you see: that is your choice, and you are absolutely free to make it. However, would you deny another person that same right to choose how/where/when their music is used. This is especially the case if someone is using somebody else's work to make money. My wife, for instance, is a photographer. Unfortunately, she spends an inordinate amount of time chasing down people who believe that "just because it's on the Internet, it's free to steal". It's one thing when somebody snarfs someone else's photos (without permission) to use on their own website or blog -- that's merely rude. But there are actual commercial publications and/or agencies who have taken other people's work and make money off of them. That's one reason why I really like the Creative Commons idea. Because it allows the creator to set the desired access level from "free for all to take and use" to "don't you dare touch this under any circumstances". The point is, IMNSHO, that this should be the choice of the original creator, not someone who merely discovers the work at a later time. --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 14:41:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C06A43BE86; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:41:58 UTC Message-Id: <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:35:16 -0700 References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:41:58 +0000 (UTC) When I was last in conscious recording mode -- as opposed to, the recorder happens to be running while I'm playing -- the approach I found myself taking was to improvise until I found something I liked, then hone in on various elements of it playing the "piece" repeatedly until I had the flow down, then record it possibly doing a couple takes while doing so. Having then committed the piece to some form of recording medium, I would then proceed to let it flow back out of my brain which was fine until I found myself in a live performance situation with no material to fall back on. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 14:44:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A4CC3BE88; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S8rOLiKh2ptqVfso6Hw+xqrt+A5a5DUbUlg6vb/PtwE=; b=wyR1NLN8wqUFgoPhSeSOnyLBQT3L3NxhUuM5bmimGHV8e51E734x6P1LuEjmnBFZJM swPpjAI9hH3eOkMCaWjmnZuLumj/kZMTPBG0lmTNqNwj9thCSCmEWbmita/tyUcet59X Zk0ThIydfL90OXZFWtLxeJTS2+3J2c/QS2iyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M1Oiz+lnxLf6tv8/TrQu9UOpuwJYXhu71xYIBNyCQ7WURsUIPbkbDqNfSjqr94vwPT g+wSc1cY9MS02fvNQCVIiqzrmf3NvIayCarZAZ/q/X0yJtpxm3nqOVdokIon+3iQAgaf E8YYJ1wq65vfRjr5qA/rJNx+/SiO0VxOq5gpw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270336r4cff14f1qd8cf27857de45d3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:43:59 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908270743u38fe384chb20e8958cfd27bb8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdcc819dbe904722099af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:44:02 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdcc819dbe904722099af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see your point. It is a good point. However, I would say that an artist has to understand that by releasing his work to the public he not only gains positive moments, but also theoretically negative. Because, while in the world of pure ideas it can be at least argued that an artist should be able to control what is being done with his work, in real world this cannot be accomplished. With the internet it is virtually impossible to control that at all. So I think that artists should stop chasing people who use their work without permission - they should change their business models and stop focusing on selling copies of their work. Also, and I've always believed it to be an interesting point - why would you get money for work done once? You record music - yes, that was hard work. You get some money - either from a person who contracted you to do the recording or from shows to which people came after listening to your records. If someone uses your recording in their work and sold it - why should you get money? Here we are not speaking about plagiarism - this is a completely different story. Let's speak about a case like when you use a vocal from a movie in your song. Is the movie producer "working" each time someone listens to this recording? If not - why should he be paid? Of course, what's also true for the real world, is that until you are not a super star, noone really cares about samples in your music. If you are just a musician who is making a living, I strongly doubt you will have any serious problems with sampling, especially if the samples are not too recognizable. Here's an example. This album has several voice samples from Star Trek Voyager - almost in every tune there are several voice samples that add to the atmosphere. I may be wrong, but I do not think I morally owe something to the movie company or the actors. http://www.disc-shelf.com/?album=39 Guys, I may be wrong on this. I do not consider my views to be written in stone. I am constantly evaluating my views, thinking them over. But as fas as I can see it now, today, an artist should not be a person who elevates above the rest of the public, demanding everyone to run to them and ask permission. What if he denies? Many good works may cease to exist. L.V. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Mech wrote: > At 2:36 PM +0400 8/27/09, Louigi Verona wrote: > >> >> I really do not enjoy a position of a semi-god who has to be asked every >> time someone makes a creative (or a non-creative) decision. In the faq >> section of the site I explicitly state this. >> > > But you see: that is your choice, and you are absolutely free to make it. > However, would you deny another person that same right to choose > how/where/when their music is used. This is especially the case if someone > is using somebody else's work to make money. > > My wife, for instance, is a photographer. Unfortunately, she spends an > inordinate amount of time chasing down people who believe that "just because > it's on the Internet, it's free to steal". It's one thing when somebody > snarfs someone else's photos (without permission) to use on their own > website or blog -- that's merely rude. But there are actual commercial > publications and/or agencies who have taken other people's work and make > money off of them. > > That's one reason why I really like the Creative Commons idea. Because it > allows the creator to set the desired access level from "free for all to > take and use" to "don't you dare touch this under any circumstances". > > The point is, IMNSHO, that this should be the choice of the original > creator, not someone who merely discovers the work at a later time. > > --m. > -- > _____ > "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" > > --0015174bdcc819dbe904722099af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see your point. It is a good point. However, I would say that an artist h= as to understand that by releasing his work to the public he not only gains= positive moments, but also theoretically negative. Because, while in the w= orld of pure ideas it can be at least argued that an artist should be able = to control what is being done with his work, in real world this cannot be a= ccomplished. With the internet it is virtually impossible to control that a= t all. So I think that artists should stop chasing people who use their wor= k without permission - they should change their business models and stop fo= cusing on selling copies of their work.

    Also, and I've always believed it to be an interesting point - why = would you get money for work done once? You record music - yes, that was ha= rd work. You get some money - either from a person who contracted you to do= the recording or from shows to which people came after listening to your r= ecords. If someone uses your recording in their work and sold it - why shou= ld you get money? Here we are not speaking about plagiarism - this is a com= pletely different story. Let's speak about a case like when you use a v= ocal from a movie in your song. Is the movie producer "working" e= ach time someone listens to this recording? If not - why should he be paid?=

    Of course, what's also true for the real world, is that until you a= re not a super star, noone really cares about samples in your music. If you= are just a musician who is making a living, I strongly doubt you will have= any serious problems with sampling, especially if the samples are not too = recognizable.

    Here's an example. This album has several voice samples from Star T= rek Voyager - almost in every tune there are several voice samples that add= to the atmosphere. I may be wrong, but I do not think I morally owe someth= ing to the movie company or the actors.
    http://www.disc-shelf.com= /?album=3D39

    Guys, I may be wrong on this. I do not consider my = views to be written in stone. I am constantly evaluating my views, thinking= them over. But as fas as I can see it now, today, an artist should not be = a person who elevates above the rest of the public, demanding everyone to r= un to them and ask permission. What if he denies? Many good works may cease= to exist.

    L.V.

    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:00 PM,= Mech <mech@m3ch.net<= /a>> wrote:
    At 2:36 PM +0400 8/27/09, Louigi Verona wrote:

    I really do not enjoy a position of a semi-god who has to be asked every ti= me someone makes a creative (or a non-creative) decision. In the faq sectio= n of the site I explicitly state this.

    But you see: that is your choice, and you are absolutely free to make it. = =A0However, would you deny another person that same right to choose how/whe= re/when their music is used. =A0This is especially the case if someone is u= sing somebody else's work to make money.

    My wife, for instance, is a photographer. =A0Unfortunately, she spends an i= nordinate amount of time chasing down people who believe that "just be= cause it's on the Internet, it's free to steal". =A0It's o= ne thing when somebody snarfs someone else's photos (without permission= ) to use on their own website or blog -- that's merely rude. =A0But the= re are actual commercial publications and/or agencies who have taken other = people's work and make money off of them.

    That's one reason why I really like the Creative Commons idea. Because = it allows the creator to set the desired access level from "free for a= ll to take and use" to "don't you dare touch this under any c= ircumstances".

    The point is, IMNSHO, that this should be the choice of the original creato= r, not someone who merely discovers the work at a later time.

    =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.
    --
    _____
    "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new = dreams"


    --0015174bdcc819dbe904722099af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 15:38:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31B623BE86; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 253530182/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.128.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.128.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAPtElkpPToAf/2dsb2JhbAAIk1PFVoQZBYpo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,286,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="253530182" Message-ID: <4A96A88F.8010500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:38:55 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Samples and looping References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270336r4cff14f1qd8cf27857de45d3d@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270743u38fe384chb20e8958cfd27bb8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908270743u38fe384chb20e8958cfd27bb8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Louigi Verona wrote: > Here's an example. This album has several voice samples from Star Trek > Voyager - wow, you must have sat through a whole episode. Surely that earns you the right to a few samples. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 15:41:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19EAE3BE85; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:04 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251387263; bh=uf2hy+WdgfnQblXQvfX6hekb3DvFMW+1NkhwARYxGwE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QdjxHvPxskEyS1LM2WfL5mngu0hZyfyYlc/ydADNjAVWhD2a3e9r6AIryQcC91FVReF+2+l9fBjMCcGY36CxL/fOwEG7wPMDcsrGpgvAPpm9FQr/ajaJNG+d/XOHrOKMtguhxA3RkSqG/yF6GwoCv/XpgoEwxFoXxM+5LcaKdiA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GsytRspkFeJv0frYoGCFzNm2UI4ipUeCSYGx0EDnaeB1eM6amjqwLo096DK/V5iOA4oUtHWgIo44ZFQGhXZR9jDAHkZCMZOwr5ys2ZYlVNRMK13lf/voi5607gPrbprI8Hhyv7pUDQsSvXOjOFabB5oTOw460zahaFH90NzyQBk=; Message-ID: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WnDHUigVM1mzvPoscrr0244rSUl7j7G9FM7kCi7WaTeYBd23K.YNbVfm6HZRMRb_y1wFA5MDEbs_woDuMM2l4fRvTJcJKoBCeSbgDmvl_5OflBEeggNa0ZIGclRmrwc5KFFAhsSxsXC51tysaFIPThxDVgH1_54uZN7WWuR3opBtufDrJLTKKjW0QkhGB19NJLaZO81_dTVPpmrVQnVSjVPaFrnI.NFzfD6ggBGAdqe76cGmeQhoiJHMzIuaZICTBBPOVPQi4UIX8ZUoJbWgmDFjkiwBJPOjknrlp2qZYGiAJA3tveLlnyjKGaIQh90QS.WEkPz0QWWmQJkFeMXegjVVShE5TY9vfqFqVSGuzA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:34:23 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: Samples and looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908270122x6d6fc9cara57b366ad3524205@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:04 +0000 (UTC) perhaps you see it this way because it is not your original work which is s= ampled and then not compensated. yes, the illegal download and filesharing= have made it so that the actual recorded work can hardly pull in the amoun= t of money for the artist that it once did. but just because the artist ca= n barely make any money off of it doesn't mean that someone else should. s= o now, if you use someone's sample in a work without clearing it, they can = then sue for every cent made off the recording-- maybe not as much as they= would like, but... i doubt that the verve enjoyed all of the proceeds of = "bittersweet symphony" going to jagger/richards, but they should have clear= ed the sample first. so, i don't think any harm was really done to society= there, huh?-- the people that wrote the work which was used so extensivel= y get paid for the misappropriation of their work by getting all proceeds f= rom the song, since no deal was worked out beforehand. peer-to-peer networks and the availability of legal downloads have conspired to do the = album in and usher in a new age of the single. here's hoping that the ease= of sampling others' works doesn't lead to the degradation of intellectual = property law, or even no-talent hacks can claim to have "created" something= by stitching together others' works into something that they feel is their= own. people can manipulate others' images as much as they desire in the p= rivacy of their own home, but the minute they try to make money off another= 's work without their ok, that property in essence reverts back to the orig= inal creator, thank goodness. at least for now, until the cretans win anot= her victory for sham creativity. > oops! ;) > nah. to end this right away I'll say this - no matter > what each one of us says, > after the discussions it is unlikely someone's opinion > will change. I think > most of us are normal decent people and no matter how one > views sampling, >=20 > I think none of us really wants any harm done to the > society. And I have yet to > see a case when sampling is not an overblown matter and > actually does serious > harm to someone. >=20 > Louigi. >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Toby G > wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > You just started=A0a long > flaming=20 > discussion. > =A0 > t >=20 > ----- > Original Message -----=20 > =20 > From:=20 > Louigi=20 > Verona=20 > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > =20 > Sent: > Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:56=20 > AM > Subject: > Re: Samples and looping >=20 > =20 > I think it is immoral to make people ask you every > time they=20 > wanna use > your work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound > editor=20 > and > I record an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I > cut out=20 > samples > out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there > actually=20 > owns my > freedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can > cut out=20 > samples > from a movie he once did? >=20 > But of course these sampling=20 > questions are very controversial. I have no desire to > start > a long flaming=20 > discussion. Just cleared up my position on that. >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, > Milo > wrote: >=20 > No, it is not illegal to sample. What is > illegal (and=20 > immoral) is to > use someone's work without asking for written > permission.=20 > If you ask > the right person nicely, you will get the license 90% of > the=20 > time. A > friend of mine recently obtained a license from a very > famous=20 > movie > director, to use a sample from his latest movie. Guess > what, he=20 > gave > his permission for free as long as the sample is not used > in=20 > another > movie... :-) >=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 15:59:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 406853BE85; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 386 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:59:53 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 922925.68507.bm@omp405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251388405; bh=oVE+pY2zEz45LX0JFxL4XkqYWCij1MhqLPrhtZ5zC2o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qB2g20UoGahYHR7vkcYd+eFW7V46+SL9sNeEJWJZbBKjpt5sbXKc0fiXXxS02ZejuQqi1SPomoP822nsPKUnAOE9+g3CeAN1Fcp3UZKzJvvyn/nwfZ04HCKLbXlLpK//HjPMmjA5RkkgUuyBPLllyzK0KdGHt2SVicN76VlDVpM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bn4wn3aME76HDtnULuwWAmpL6/KxZ1O+3ibz8oo1UYhS0IeIbnIElzWRiC1QZSIdmcgPIWQkSkF4XIQrmBRx0XND3jJWD9xN4/DwtgsM4TuWmtchzJXpo+kaud1fJvUx8Ve4Ivevz+J1o/0o2I1Pl/ztDVQsXt40Bz4KYYHlE7Q=; Message-ID: <734741.91455.qm@web45912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kZFIKO4VM1kD8.BtcglYkbYQGmSqUzdVooUJtxSfe_CFkBvZjVfYIMmt5s2f1HLjzXq4gB9C_c09.P6FjnFj.1ITXXVkcFdiaTWVOqlzaRYvqPsE8AWZHjYOzLPIrxTfmKk8Fjp2bk7uVK2AEXyut5Yvjy4.Graz7SyL5Fe0_Fysj1kYcYGOJgU5u7mW7GrQ3Q0G_cOLBl0uiX4rKC2SungLi5HAjR7WUtErEax0d59nQziEd3O6pXYFge4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Belew looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1184038579-1251388405=:91455" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:59:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-1184038579-1251388405=:91455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last night Adrian Belew Power Trio was in town, put on a great show in whic= h he looped in all but one song. I was able to move to the front towards th= e end of the show, it looks like all he is using is a boomerang. He also ha= s an FBC1010 but looked like all he did with that was use an expression ped= al to adjust between the mix of two effects chains. Nice use of his timefac= tor delay for harmony lines (he also has a harmonizer he steps on frequentl= y). His backing band is a drums/bass brother/sister team from Philadelphia = who kicked butt, I only heard the drums get out of sync with the loop one t= ime; didn't see any in-ear monitors but they did have the Bose L1=A0PA syst= em setup on stage, besides using stage monitors and house PA. A very eclect= ic sound I have no idea how they keep everything in sync so well.=0A=0AFor = those of you near Philadelphia, they have a free show tonight at Rembrandt'= s (actually not a show, it is a listening party for their new CD 'e').=0A= =0AI highly recommend the new cd 'e', listen to it with=A0the knowledge tha= t it is reproduced on stage live with loops. You can listen tosome snippets= =A0at his website http://www.adrianbelew.net/=A0-- although I would say the= live versions were=A0a bit wilder.=0A=0AEric=A0=0A=0A=0A --0-1184038579-1251388405=:91455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Last night Adrian Belew Power Trio was in town, put on= a great show in which he looped in all but one song. I was able to move to= the front towards the end of the show, it looks like all he is using is a = boomerang. He also has an FBC1010 but looked like all he did with that was = use an expression pedal to adjust between the mix of two effects chains. Ni= ce use of his timefactor delay for harmony lines (he also has a harmonizer = he steps on frequently). His backing band is a drums/bass brother/sister te= am from Philadelphia who kicked butt, I only heard the drums get out of syn= c with the loop one time; didn't see any in-ear monitors but they did have = the Bose L1 PA system setup on stage, besides using stage monitors and= house PA. A very eclectic sound I have no idea how they keep everything in sync so well.
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    =0A=0A=0A=0Astart: 0000-00-00=0Aend: 0000-00-00=0A --0-1184038579-1251388405=:91455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 16:22:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B87AF3BE8D; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1251390143; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=WJW3Zx18av49K4fZL34b3pM/lqQ=; b=MGa1Z+BQ4uvPUzz1/7TVehhhZUD6O78z4KD3LQKkk4riMcwjFRHf/Zlsxb3Tttra OMHtl+WCd4WTu1jxfxlglHosByhE4U6bJ/qSgh/JmaE3YXzKwWq8jwiZCbUJV7fF; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=M2nr8EcaAAAA:20 a=8pO7CU-0DDrXsOHtPUgA:9 a=g-ulqg4FpWA0DKvCASDTFRdIzR8A:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01ca2732$8dfff390$34862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: OT ? Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:22:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Ok, I think this actually qualifies as a looper. Put the button multiple times, loads of fun! http://tinyurl.com/9rj4wd Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 16:41:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9680F3BE78; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:41:02 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:41:17 +0000 (UTC) From: "tim echols" > yes, the illegal download and filesharing have made it so that the actual > recorded work can hardly pull in the amount of money for the artist that > it once did. That's certainly the party line excuse the RIAA and its ilk have been using to justify their lack of income: no, not the demise of retail sales, not the adherence to the culturally-bankrupt concept of "star making" (whether the "star" has talent or not), not the absence of new (ie non-derivative) songwriters, not the predatory nature of their own business practices, no! It wasn't them, it's those damned pirates! And while they're at it, go for the easy targets at home that use a file-sharing program to download 10 or 20 songs. Ennnh! It remains to be seen just what quantities of business have ever been actually lost, beyond the vague but threatening-sounding percentage figures the recording business continues to pull out of their collective backsides. Stephen Goodman * http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 16:41:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C77B3BE8B; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=f4ZC6qty9XdxDS/Tkb7Fud6dcnpCfRV/YIntvl7nXHU=; b=W/hKrvfgy5e2QWMwE2NWooSRXIuPDWLuy4Ra+3ZkfA4Y/drxjqaXJsE+VQnCxRRyLa Kbl9IhcPYl5Niy0ib8iZG/texNjoGDC/5KUkkJPhf0K5LCGr4PusB0yooaEMoYL21lI8 r8AEzqiG8/H+ZIH9yceHgT2n8ir6/0v6nQn7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=n3YjZV8HZs2rBZYbXsg+Uil0sjlSIFziJlwNgptRW3rDIffs/Z8rHyKi/lg1vQhBaq eIEkOWpK9Gltfi5UE1q/Aqwz9rQc0TKbTBgs1sYU1dd+OU8FP5FQJGSOBvrDstacqOa2 MqfQcYoRq8XTrKLt9DYrE4p/jDYVJr/DuCo/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:39:29 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b8c13ee2c701f78c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c14227ec5210472223d76 Resent-Message-ID: <4fJZM.A.-fB.CdrlKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:41:38 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c14227ec5210472223d76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler wrote: > :-) try and pay attention, this has been discussed before. > Sarky booger Butler!!! Actually I do things like this all the time, and Andrew, I mostly do it with your beloved Vortex!!! I have one synched to an EDP (using the Grob Cable) but instead of sunthing the tap tempo, i trigger the morph AB.. with wildly different settings on A and B patches I get that squarewave mod thing.. I tell ya thats from Glitchingtonville Arizona... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c14227ec5210472223d76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:
    :-) try and pay attention, this has been d= iscussed before.

    Sarky booger Butler!!!
    Actually I do things like this all the time, and Andrew, I mostly do it wi= th your beloved Vortex!!! I have one synched to an EDP (using the Grob Cabl= e) but instead of sunthing the tap tempo, i trigger the morph AB.. with wil= dly different settings on A and B patches I get that squarewave mod thing..= I tell ya thats from Glitchingtonville Arizona...

    --
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    --0015174c14227ec5210472223d76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 17:21:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C9A93BE8D; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BbkZVS5JofNoCgB03gSgPJt94XqhBQCPvzhE6X2w784=; b=JCGTrpMcvRGRJ+7iXsUSbkGSCV/jrCpYZ0Jf6x4oHsJ2QcS6Wt7fAD3UuP49W9kODn a7iIeId7x1/8kKfEr0L9BDJCeuKAgwduqt2SFV2dizJG3PCrZZZn8ksCfAPg09cvMepE uc/SisBmkFERjLdceqB1YUizpuVAKpe9LffyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P2ND4HjxBm1naAbX9NtjiLs6anpg+2THokC9faPNkX5kHNtcxIbGJe2fMcPkLCs/Wg rDIoeu5ff/Peeq+1iA3ulFvXP6mDOJQyvOovPs/HD0DfhxQ1XSKA3CB32qlkfHlL/cBA N9U7U64DXti6OAwnvdL/f7/4sfYN1tfflipKo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> References: <20aeede50908260511x676bbb91rf85d6fa6f4e2488c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908260542p1c9ffd99v94a490a32c2d86a9@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908260627o1bad1d6aj881057f7b0643220@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908260949s4c72f585l1b6be0480a13aee3@mail.gmail.com> <20aeede50908270056n7fa8cefg1fc59ce224d96c66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:21:35 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908271021k19bcc8e7yb7b410f33e38f71@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:21:37 +0000 (UTC) "Liberty, morality, and the humane dignity of man consist precisely in that man does good not because he is ordered to do so, but because he conceives it, wants it, and loves it." (from: The Immorality of the State by Mikhail Bakunin) On 8/27/09, Louigi Verona wrote: > I think it is immoral to make people ask you every time they wanna use > your work. I mean, I am sitting at home and I have a sound editor and > I record an audio signal of a movie that is playing. Then I cut out samples > out of this recording. Does it mean that some guy there actually owns my > freedom and I am obliged to go ask permission whether I can cut out samples > from a movie he once did? > > But of course these sampling questions are very controversial. I have no > desire to start > a long flaming discussion. Just cleared up my position on that. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 17:23:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EEEF3BEA2; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a/9m3w+9iDMDXuhqJ08DAFlbmo6fUf+zi17vDIHIKHg=; b=tY3RvTUA+8GvRGoyTCdsFb7fdt1KfwXohYwOmZWj0xbqQ5qz9BNwJFTzrtJBFM+6Ng OmhM2QNitRmhd6xbn0Xo2S9sWGyAtnNPyfmgzrARV4RIRFSXB9Glo/60Qc4e7u01xaA+ oDUyhkamY4KORlyhjhO91MBYu+bERv9B+CtLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A5itxZ5WHQLT8BMfru9V/Im5nyU5nZXSin2qHGyS4X82n0K0ZX/V4ur58unR5K1ODm Bn63TfbBWnv9lo2JSk5phb8ccmWbH95mgUnoCsbel48PrIW/8p3vw5CwQC35/VABUsao 4a/Q1m2taXg5/ZbQeklvBdd+b6d6cFcuxwMWw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:23:19 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:23:20 +0000 (UTC) > Ennnh! It remains to be seen just what quantities of business have ever > been actually lost, beyond the vague but threatening-sounding percentage > figures the recording business continues to pull out of their collective > backsides. > Indeed. I read a report from a recent-ish study that had some interesting conclusions: people who d/l movies and albums are significantly more likely to buy cds and dvds and attend movie screenings and concerts than those who don't d/l... are these really the people the RIAA want to antagonize? My two-cents on the "right" to sample... I sort of see it both ways. Copyrights exist to ensure that creators reap the benefits of their efforts and that is good. However, the initial intent of copyright laws was to give creators the competitive edge for a couple of years (I forget exactly how many originally, was it 7?) before the content ended up in the public domain. What we have now, is a bit of perversion of that original intent where copyrights extend beyond the life of the original creator... The aime of many rights holders is to keep the works indefinitely out of the public domain by introducing slight variations, re-issues and so on to renew the copyright to their benefit, but to the detriment of everyone else. To see how absurd this is, imagine if patents worked the same way and never ended up in the public sphere... (not tha patent laws are perfect) If, like me, you believe there is no creatio ex nihilo, being deprived of building on what has come before us can only lead to cultural stagnation. Sylvain On 8/27/09, Stephen Goodman wrote: > From: "tim echols" > > yes, the illegal download and filesharing have made it so that the actual > recorded work can hardly pull in the amount of money for the artist that it > once did. > > > > That's certainly the party line excuse the RIAA and its ilk have been using > to justify their lack of income: no, not the demise of retail sales, not the > adherence to the culturally-bankrupt concept of "star making" (whether the > "star" has talent or not), not the absence of new (ie non-derivative) > songwriters, not the predatory nature of their own business practices, no! > It wasn't them, it's those damned pirates! And while they're at it, go for > the easy targets at home that use a file-sharing program to download 10 or > 20 songs. > > Ennnh! It remains to be seen just what quantities of business have ever > been actually lost, beyond the vague but threatening-sounding percentage > figures the recording business continues to pull out of their collective > backsides. > > > Stephen Goodman > * > http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman > http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 17:42:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBCD23BE8C; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ffdkkZ4inCbcpEDs1pJW9NxqaFc7th+1kqNh5A1VAyM=; b=o164i3Dbx8c82DalhAYBM9fm2kksBnkCUkaaVJ5k1X513ZE9LUmN2dcrQUuZEvQykC ZS5KNgb1qxftUOk1rx7PAa40gCS+PFWDNau1EnG4pxToXgC4Hv3fiLL/tOVkh+IAVGM2 S0Xt/Lx4V+6dDS9OQfmmkKzWKDNBOfGkYCojM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KGmAewtrc94vGFo5HldN8wzHp9w8v6ikGwT1N5cBS4QgDRi86+uKWOMhhkYJTpRY0B U+V80wAlJWEUYA6MYMOORiZWTv1jcs8LeGcW2dN5SmiqAoi6oD1kH0PbQqRdDk/rWaSB AafIdYqUQ0QKxzbVTXErMg7r10DAcV2CMn5Hk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:42:23 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) The protection of copyright beyond the artists' life is in place so that his/her family is protected after his/her death. It was designed as a backup social protection for the art worker and his/her children, because most art workers are not superstars and they are living a normal life as you all know, I am sure. When you are a businessman, you own your business and its capital. If you suddenly die, your family inherits it. This is a choice of society as well. Do big corporations exploit the laws? Of course they do! But can you please point to the direction of a multinational corporation that is not exploiting a law nowadays? We can either abolish property completely or not. The middle way, the easy way, is the post modern capitalism we live in, crushing the people in favor of corporations. Pirate Bay is a corporation - a multimillion dollar one. Their shares are available for sale in the stock markets. How many dollars have those businessmen invested in art? Zero. How many artists have those businessmen assisted financially? Zero. You also talk about cultural starvation - are you aware of how many albums are released every day? You could spend your whole life listening to music, never listening to the same album twice. And I am talking about masterpieces of art, not fast food. :-) On 8/27/09, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >What we have now, is a bit of > perversion of that original intent where copyrights extend beyond the > life of the original creator... The aime of many rights holders is to > keep the works indefinitely out of the public domain by introducing > slight variations, re-issues and so on to renew the copyright to their > benefit, but to the detriment of everyone else. > > To see how absurd this is, imagine if patents worked the same way and > never ended up in the public sphere... (not tha patent laws are > perfect) > > If, like me, you believe there is no creatio ex nihilo, being deprived > of building on what has come before us can only lead to cultural > stagnation. > > Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 18:56:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D0F53BE8F; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=n1NHyZMGzQ1i96uZskwvaunxN4llZM/nJ8L0cQ7ngQE=; b=G4QXzsSQkvhpvlq+7fsrA2Ne54cXl9hy2hTtrxHukDda21i23XgeZf/X2gqNWXQ3AT c+rZ3InHLDaSrflkEWXsUNV8jemdfZYUi9R8EwV/rJRGggw91NTAZsPYDL8HTV9ihPzS 9g0Ue5hK6G7OgBr7wja1YAt1YhLEBGrrTgg9o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YsRLxuH/yiF/nc2BayAYVmlYlRfSbYPhyKGKpDYvwDQKHVZNf+EE8RypQL0CkxcpNu wA/sJ4mJ4wxxEDonl1SC2KlxepvrQkaspyH+l2vhKNnqAtiEFSdihWi6ooK4/JBMYfbw 0x6UrJDmXELdUgq6TB7q/Ep5F1uyD6ek15I0g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:55:59 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0908271155n4ab0abedxc1b28c5960f5e4c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Which live streaming method is best? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Mark, sorry for the belated response. I'll try to summarize what you are looking for: * streaming audio over the internet * audio quality is an issue * video will (current planning state) be coming via webcam (and whichever software) * you don't need to listen to or watch them - strictly unidirectional The important question is: does the audio need to be in sync with the webcam video you provide or not? If yes - > see 1 If no -> see 2 1. The best thing I can think of would be ustream.tv, justin.tv or a similar service. All of them are flash-video based, and all of them (at least those two) require you to use the (free) Flash Media Encoder (FME) to be able to control audio quality in detail (including making it stereo). That way, you could then transmit audio and video on one stream. Which one you choose is up to you, one thing which may be of importance: while ustream requires you to have the FME and a browser plugin running, justin can do with only FME. So if you are using a somewhat older computer for that task, justin.tv would be my recommendation. 2. Of course, the items listed under 1 would also work here. To make it really simple: use the Oddcast standalone client (or Winamp with the Oddcast and Line-In plugin) on your side, and Winamp with the Oddcast/Icecast-pseudoserver plugin on the other side. This will however require that the router/firewall at the other end is setup to forward the oddcast port to the machine receiving the audio. Other solution (if they don't want to mess with the venue's IT setup): install an icecast server on your machine, configure the router to port forward to the machine running the icecast server, and then send the stream with the Oddcast client to your local server and have the other party connect to your icecast miniserver with Winamp (or a media player of their choice). Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 21:45:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B023D3BE82; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <23241.72.22.1251409539.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908261333u3aa8e6fga72e0ec22e4c6547@mail.gmail.com> References: <14796.72.22.1251318131.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0908261333u3aa8e6fga72e0ec22e4c6547@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:45:39 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique witth mobius From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per, Rick, Andy, Mech, Raul, I'll have a try with some of these this weekend. Here's am interesting piece of kit I just came across. http://emusician.com/signalprocessors/emusic_midfi_electronics/ Anyone tried this? Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Wed, August 26, 2009 4:33 pm, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:22 PM, André Donawa > wrote: >> I was wondering if any of you use this technique with mobius. >> I found something here that mentioned using >> Insert, SUSReplace, and Unrounded Multiply, but I don't have a clue how >> to >> approach it. >> Do I need to start looking at scripts? >> Appreciate any help you can give > > You may have to start looking at scripts if you want to apply those > commands faster than you can tap dance (i.e. kick pedals). Often it is > the high speed frequency of manipulations that gives that glitchy > sound character but there is a way to glitch without scripting and > that is to apply no quantization or a very short 16ths Per Cycle > setting as the quantization base. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 21:59:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FE333BE8C; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EsN2YcpSBnjkbN6U9/dqhp56rVRCOGafT/13kZIZzFE=; b=Pr9gzMVkWcteGddxIvAAYR7LwVsQI8cuAcvpCMabH8xJ+ECX08I8nOP07dIhfI3z+P P1lue6l97IwZ2V1g17kapPracRCy7qZ3aN1pQ7yuMRybM1JvCnscKuOEc51zan031buT S3jyjJg9sQm4Z8rFs770YfKp9McxMGKXfGTXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZandrGcbXz6WeR4BnAGeQbv9tBC/VkVfrzDj8+JM/VrZ78Monx7mRHZvufehs2JHai lgx/dfqc+jLwtHocwANTkdN+k8ERWtnUmH7oeK3WQjAUkkKEeAm6JRnl0qBa2w2Vzpb2 FCV7+4Y3NtQO6eBgxCTz0XQ69L2RCeXlsBj0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:59:34 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 62bc6b2add4c3e9b Message-ID: <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <8sVMmD.A.iBH.HHwlKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:59:35 +0000 (UTC) > Pirate Bay is a corporation - a multimillion dollar one. Their shares > are available for sale in the stock markets. How many dollars have > those businessmen invested in art? Zero. How many artists have those > businessmen assisted financially? Zero. I do not believe this is true. To my knowledge, the Pirate Bay is NOT a corporation. It was supposed to be sold to a company for $7 million or so, but that deal has not been completed nor does it look like it will be. kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 22:08:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A22F3BE85; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bAb9Ue3HOHYoJugGNfE9y5qnWR96me+izQsg+DCAeh8=; b=hB32QYz22TFYnaam9yZ8Kv/Hd24c9YbPlPC5NE3sUDymxO7CqMp/KVj+CNTDri/R5V rr8gk5Tr8RTgnE4OlivTvw0/lZaMECQKIB0Sn3zZimOvfbtGQZp3Zbt71OO6EPsDwX4J KJI51NW/mexOnLdabhmqOE1n+A1caxF2V80j8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=d1aqkzFymtg6I/KmE28UgN+wqjFzxFyXyFjrjjE/CsAuf8q4j5G5TXZbDlqTcSFmiF gr97FGPAakvJGHKQlEvdOTs2JhefI7amv7PqabH6EvNr0D11DnAKptK5FxCCsPXjM/12 ijKAdBWdBLGkCexc8oLVe5J2Uc9h3J8qmLDKQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23241.72.22.1251409539.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <14796.72.22.1251318131.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0908261333u3aa8e6fga72e0ec22e4c6547@mail.gmail.com> <23241.72.22.1251409539.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:08:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30908271508w57c41326u25e9197d605df714@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique witth mobius From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:08:39 +0000 (UTC) I'm an EDP guy and love SUS/Replace and SUS/Insert modes, but even with basic loopers, starting with an empty loop, stomp on overdub quickly to create stacatto blips while sustaining long notes. On next pass you'll get a bumpier ride. If you're careful, you can superimpose more blips in the holes with other pitch and timbre values. It's hard to do it super fast, so It won't sound "granular" but it can create interesting chopiness. -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 27 22:20:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9A7E3BE8D; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:20:10 +0200 From: buzap@gmx.net Message-ID: <20090827222010.47390@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Simple Multiple Loop Sampling Tool for Mac? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/W6cw2werWhaQ4ahTpc8B8/umvgG6ZqUn/GWt4IY Nzr3jTLjwqTn3T/d/rzIrT1Vbt3Ebk8BjU/w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: +2r8IspHTlI8fMF+jGlrLT1OU2poZRnu X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I want to create a bunch (i.e. 15) of live loops that I want to assign to keyboard buttons and then trigger (either single-shot or loop) whenever I like (also several together). What would be the best way to do it on a Mac? My own best guess would be to define 15 parallel loops in SooperLooper. Any - better - ideas? Mobius? best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 02:00:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B27013BE98; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Samples and looping Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:00:07 -0700 References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Would it be appropriate for a movie producer to take a musician's work and use it as a soundtrack without permission or compensation? This is after all just sampling it for use in a larger and different artistic whole. If you answer yes, then do you view recorded music as a viable way for musicians to make a living? If you answer no, then how is this different from sampling a movie for use in a song? I appreciate the atmosphere and cultural references that can come from using samples, but I also recognize that at some point I'd be basically stealing the atmosphere and cultural associations that someone else worked to create. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 02:22:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D17BC3BE90; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GqFEyYdGdMMeT0bcdXtg+MyR9dyVVZnuthCuzSpLamI=; b=Ncg/I0ZwpXCRyJ16ubBYy5XTxaeuXFHD4QcWuIg0EvI0YcHHAVcQe/c9+K0La4xjoS SKUeZK5/cTmFQRVa6LNnZb8smEbVkJjgOTmggsvEC6LhkZXs/v4zuMFapJdTWXLvDCAH 10NleAeZupAFaQKn+56smc3bw6T/OayiOQZJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=hyyenaVkgYbwg9vW8KRJw+OP80AqWMkFzSnubK0XKSIMwHIh4PAJ7Q5zD/2YBnyV8J Ls3dsY9ro9KUu+nl+efuyOcwDP09njg7fWgWr9XhpcHuNGNW02LFAHVBMaiDeFU2rkdh h152v+uF9o4lPpPmARl5WgiQeMHk/eD3xMs+0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:22:27 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3497190ad0579564 Message-ID: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New Piece: Y2K9's a-comin' From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ed88afe596204722a5a32 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:22:28 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ed88afe596204722a5a32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is this exploitative, I ask myself? Well, sure, but I am really excited about Y2K9 and can't wait to hear and see all you old friends, list acquaintances, and new friends. And the beginning of this piece kind of makes me think of - corny as it may be - "The Wells Fargo Wagon" from The Music Man, in it's festive anticipation. But perhaps I wax too poetic about my own work... Anyway, that aside, I really like the evolution of this piece - it's a continuous 6:41, with no slicing, just some eq and global volume tweaks in post-production. I have the loop output being fed back into Live for tempo-synced audio processing - in the last couple of minutes, I'm playing the effects parameters only, no new audio inputs. http://warrensirota.com/solostuff/y2k9sAcomin.mp3. Enjoy -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com --0016364ed88afe596204722a5a32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is this exploitative, I ask myself? Well, sure, but I am really excited abo= ut Y2K9 and can't wait to hear and see all you old friends, list acquai= ntances, and new friends. And the beginning of this piece kind of makes me = think of - corny as it may be - "The Wells Fargo Wagon" from The = Music Man, in it's festive anticipation. But perhaps I wax too poetic a= bout my own work...

    Anyway, that aside, I really like the evolution of this piece - it'= s a continuous 6:41, with no slicing, just some eq and global volume tweaks= in post-production. I have the loop output being fed back into Live for te= mpo-synced audio processing - in the last couple of minutes, I'm playin= g the effects parameters only, no new audio inputs.

    http://wa= rrensirota.com/solostuff/y2k9sAcomin.mp3. Enjoy
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    --0016364ed88afe596204722a5a32-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 03:02:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C2C73BEA2; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nxcNZKqMuBOA4A9moRJSCCyQci8EU6Czg9lWEzlGmqg=; b=YL70DR/INS+7f0i69+TKEzHpaQHKQGJw9bZ3khF7XjIIrP1kpp8xRbaVeBxXOmvtqM Vix0xgKT3F5k5nRQ9z2G6AlFijeoRtFFa1LeKxNxBsx5gn6EK5nkHiDX9i9bzEjJq4BU oxRgFvrAaeOzI/FYrTDzyCTwVSbXAhHi6MG3Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j6s3hiUR0o5FjrxZQqlPH5Ex+fBAbLq5zrHX4mkLS5T1hpRzWruGvIsZlByjSHOgaJ NNOw20aKumhsMtMsStc8Jo9LBuZca+YrO8lDQOmh/B14BU0TTtGhgU1kfoerCjSJMWK1 2jHGqym1R03clvnv8L3kvWE7YyqlTENVIxKK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:02:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Piece: Y2K9's a-comin' From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:02:48 +0000 (UTC) 6:41 that's an odd meter :-))) ... thanks warren for sharing. is this the combo mainstage-live in action? are drums running from live or mainstage? it makes a difference a bit of post-production for matching levels. i've enjoyed your guitar madness! 2009/8/28, Warren Sirota : > Is this exploitative, I ask myself? Well, sure, but I am really excited > about Y2K9 and can't wait to hear and see all you old friends, list > acquaintances, and new friends. And the beginning of this piece kind of > makes me think of - corny as it may be - "The Wells Fargo Wagon" from The > Music Man, in it's festive anticipation. But perhaps I wax too poetic about > my own work... > > Anyway, that aside, I really like the evolution of this piece - it's a > continuous 6:41, with no slicing, just some eq and global volume tweaks in > post-production. I have the loop output being fed back into Live for > tempo-synced audio processing - in the last couple of minutes, I'm playing > the effects parameters only, no new audio inputs. > > http://warrensirota.com/solostuff/y2k9sAcomin.mp3. Enjoy > -- > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 03:18:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F7B73BE95; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1sgMvDjiC69PLvInlX8aZnOjL2yaaauptJGtUhNTvFM=; b=occZUXR7r8gEmH8Wscb+Qk/2mY0Dqc4Dew+hk8IU/3Wfuxd0rA+4XgZUFxOOjhiQIT +GaoZDIZx5oyGgNNBw84aotb0fEprKfRKXKa0Ua2HFsE6tpteTet/xxmMdtJ++Cx8KtR DbDwUDse5Mhfmw19N0BlXzv22BJcDgi7qfbZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Sob4ygHuaCSgUYGF/pngEp3Q9A0CJI4T0+MrYiWp/8roboXP250L1bD1OyBBkxl9C/ gv7h76Wd6Cc9xfbn0CsZ/5QvueGaF03CKv2ajgisNR4z7nflkGfGe2YSPayemTqXtUW2 AzGqkqzolbF8VpiseWn5hpA7cCldzRusQA/rE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:18:04 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4b1aeeb0f0c33fec Message-ID: <101191640908272018t6434729do2d4d6d8b80f1fa3a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Piece: Y2K9's a-comin' From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Raul. Yes, this is Mainstage and Live together, plus SooperLooper, plus max to record the performance. The drums are a hybrid - the shakers are all audio loops in Live - there are several tracks of them playing at once, and in each track Launch Actions are used to cycle, in various patterns, through a set of related shaker loops. Then, when the "heavy" drums come in, that's all Mainstage, driven by MIDI Clips with pseudo-randomized velocities in Live. In this case, it's a single midi clip. I have to work on that - I have a lot lot more I can do with the Mainstage drums, but I haven't organized it much yet. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > > 6:41 that's an odd meter :-))) ... thanks warren for sharing. > > is this the combo mainstage-live in action? > are drums running from live or mainstage? > > it makes a difference a bit of post-production for matching levels. > > i've enjoyed your guitar madness! > > 2009/8/28, Warren Sirota : > > > > http://warrensirota.com/solostuff/y2k9sAcomin.mp3. Enjoy > > -- > > Warren > > http://www.warrensirota.com > > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 03:31:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36EDC3BEB2; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2VRFbSwAlMX6/BQ9N/bCi+S42xx6uOZAghBWOzuCy8M=; b=oDmwiVS4rsk9cRKRUIgQGYcLPUVujL6VXoBYg8Z2CnCiZiUB65slemDmzSucQHICGn 8X6F+k3tjEZwSc575oRJaklGRn4jrPGozP62IeO2aRacY9Q6+YAsTyx72CBR0nVrKhaY OfoiDrWuQM7QnUEOahB5+RHckD9aQNx8yiwVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VKzFCPVOzslfS8nrBL+XrapvUwWar33uWM0JJJdmGQCYVagI9odtp79402XLWddC+p 81giv/SILo6kl77aI3riZFQEKbonL4+D2rqYUdy52OfwZKi8bHUurWUCuch8n2gUpLYm UBilsZDk6+CPRrEMwapd6zDKYHzoJ1VttxdhY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:31:39 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60908272031m7e6fbfds19a00f522fb7ae11@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Piece: Y2K9's a-comin' From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517448ad279476104722b5283 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:31:41 +0000 (UTC) --001517448ad279476104722b5283 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Warren loook forward to seeing you there, I'm excited as well about returning west. Good piece here, like the way the opening guitaresque (maybe patch) figure becomes chameleon like as the piece grows equally the percussion arrangement as well and yes it feel very western initially and then to me sort of evolves to trance-hop. Good stuff sir. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > > --001517448ad279476104722b5283 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren loook forward to seeing you there, I'm excited as well about ret= urning west. =A0Good piece here, like the way the opening guitaresque (mayb= e patch) figure becomes chameleon like as the piece grows equally the percu= ssion arrangement as well and yes it feel very western initially and then t= o me sort of evolves to trance-hop. =A0Good stuff sir.

    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Warren Sir= ota <wsirota@= wsdesigns.com> wrote:

    --001517448ad279476104722b5283-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 03:42:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA1813BEB9; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=POt+WatJPqiwMDzzBhEhh+y7tikseeZCsEYoIb4Q3kU=; b=XB/JOxzpEj18QqtfeqHPgrFpqlYqPv3jCxCG4fYIz1/KlEP/AUgECl8jUnK08N5GkX EBKqvIrkio+rafz6UrZCHzSVeoQCZQYCZAM+oLrH1OpyMib26JgZ9B14Awi4U1VMhePN cYUP8MzyzQBCgtaUe2FSqyt8n/hz9s2y1ixUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=a5HCTw8vrQyOfUaAu+B3A7eOxgHB697g3S/+aoXKdl8Yb2Lwkk3nm8To4mXJFaS56y WphupBS3+c3kAtRbtlDXxNs6VXAhG+E6CIdE6eMPmgOGgzG0SHTiaeQa1mtNhBdb2TKA jxARjvs2YeZpGtJWzdAZVhqU5Ui7s6lXhJo6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60908272031m7e6fbfds19a00f522fb7ae11@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60908272031m7e6fbfds19a00f522fb7ae11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:42:37 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5d53c2b67e64e5d1 Message-ID: <101191640908272042g699f622biff89a9195390338e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Piece: Y2K9's a-comin' From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Jim - that's a guitar through a foot-controlled ring modulator at the start. Looking forward to seeing you too, on the other side of the country for both of us! On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Warren loook forward to seeing you there, I'm excited as well about > returning west. =A0Good piece here, like the way the opening guitaresque > (maybe patch) figure becomes chameleon like as the piece grows equally th= e > percussion arrangement as well and yes it feel very western initially and > then to me sort of evolves to trance-hop. =A0Good stuff sir. > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Warren Sirota > wrote: >> > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 04:05:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88BB83BEC3; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1964 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:05:04 UTC Message-Id: From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Piece: Y2K9's a-comin' Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:32:19 -0500 References: <101191640908271922n781b4ee3iadace857826e226@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Warren, Thanks for sharing your new piece, I love the juxtaposition between the intro and the body of the piece, kind of a sucker 'em in, then pound 'em approach! I dig the guitar tones in the intro, the "ring mod" section, and the "fuzz" section. Finally your effects playing in the closing section, especially the slicing kind of thing you are doing. Very nice, sir! All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 06:20:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A2533BEBA; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2w8RRRGPTC/Y3Ucl51f8Y2wYRwFjrxkhUwWNTlLfk18=; b=lfz+1cON3E9dGfdckBw5+rRXauRg+E+xl9BWanigIWJdXIYPXuuGbaX1yncIhjSRkT z79R2N5gx+K+OPmiU65sRLWYSGxyqXBVZywRcW3iZB9hWUyWuQ9wd3gtJaWJkxB7s0We VLYU58EKGHXJzvXRGmdcyl5YUlcz8hmrb5EO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XCdeZU6TqdBDPPr6Nj/vCB9wqrV7gh1ZuVobv9s2MBZzUwYctu2BwjtwvlokejxkEJ p45fZ+UPKR7ZNB6rwy5ScqT/JE0MsabpbQoUuj7gU1pItGr15HdRGdsB5ECRe86tMmwd qQJwFchiALkyiVUCLf9zlM8lS2bkvgQFNLnD0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:20:19 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174768f6aa189e04722dadd3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:20:21 +0000 (UTC) --0015174768f6aa189e04722dadd3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Mark! "If you answer yes, then do you view recorded music as a viable way for musicians to make a living?" I would answer yes. There is a considerable difference between making a living and making a fortune. If a composer writes music specifically for a movie and he has a contract, I believe he should receive a one time pay. It might be big or not, but it should be a one time thing. If a film director is using someone's music in his movie, he can choose to pay the composer to thank him, but he, in my opinion, should not be obliged. I know personally about a hundred professional musicians. Very different musicians - classical composers, game composers, pop music writers. NONE of them make a living by selling copies of their works. They do sometimes sell cds on their concerts, but they do not rely on disc selling as their primary basis. And they live absolutely fine without getting royalties each time someone cuts out 5 seconds of their work. You also say an interesting thing: you say that you can "steal" atmosphere that someone else worked to create. This is a very interesting statement because it reveals how a lot of us view creativity - as something that is done purely to an advantage of the artist. But not all people aim to get money, fame and other things when they do art. There are a lot of people who do art because they cannot be otherwise, because their heart calls them to say something important that lies within their spirit. They do not care for rewards. And thus - when they are using a piece of work someone else created, this use is legit, morally legit because in turn their own work will be as usable to everybody else. An example: do you know that Shakespeare took many plots of his famous plays from works of other authors? Today it would've been called a cheap rip off. But is it? I do not believe so. Modern "show business" and music "industry" try to make us believe that artists' main incentive to create is the holy copyright and the amount of money on the credit card. They say this because this is what they are in music for - to make lots of money. But in reality, the artist's incentive to create comes from his talent and dedication. So it does not mean that artists shouldn't be payed - they should. But there is no need to give them a fortune at the expense of everybody's freedom. Providing them a living is quite enough - and that does not require to pay or even ask permission each time one of the 5 billion people of our planet decides to use a piece of their work. I would say that as a decision one should credit the author if possible - if the work is commercial you should credit the author if you know who the author is. That would provide him with enough attention and that attention would be quite enough, I believe. This is my opinion. Louigi. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Would it be appropriate for a movie producer to take a musician's work and > use it as a soundtrack without permission or compensation? This is after all > just sampling it for use in a larger and different artistic whole. > > If you answer yes, then do you view recorded music as a viable way for > musicians to make a living? > > If you answer no, then how is this different from sampling a movie for use > in a song? > > I appreciate the atmosphere and cultural references that can come from > using samples, but I also recognize that at some point I'd be basically > stealing the atmosphere and cultural associations that someone else worked > to create. > > Mark > > --0015174768f6aa189e04722dadd3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Mark!

    "If you answer yes, then do you view recorded music a= s a viable way for musicians to make a living?"

    I would answer = yes.
    There is a considerable difference between making a living and maki= ng
    a fortune. If a composer writes music specifically for a movie and he has a= contract, I believe he should receive a
    one time pay. It might be big o= r not, but it should be a one time thing.
    If a film director is using so= meone's music in his movie, he can choose to pay the composer to thank = him, but he,
    in my opinion, should not be obliged.
    I know personally about a hundred = professional musicians. Very different musicians - classical composers, gam= e
    composers, pop music writers. NONE of them make a living by selling co= pies of their works. They do sometimes
    sell cds on their concerts, but they do not rely on disc selling as their p= rimary basis. And they live absolutely
    fine without getting royalties ea= ch time someone cuts out 5 seconds of their work.

    You also say an in= teresting thing: you say that you can "steal" atmosphere that som= eone else worked to create.
    This is a very interesting statement because it reveals how a lot of us vie= w creativity - as something that is done
    purely to an advantage of the a= rtist. But not all people aim to get money, fame and other things when they= do art.
    There are a lot of people who do art because they cannot be otherwise, beca= use their heart calls them to say
    something important that lies within t= heir spirit. They do not care for rewards. And thus - when they are using a=
    piece of work someone else created, this use is legit, morally legit becaus= e in turn their own work will be as usable
    to everybody else. An example= : do you know that Shakespeare took many plots of his famous plays from wor= ks of
    other authors? Today it would've been called a cheap rip off. But is it= ? I do not believe so.

    Modern "show business" and music &q= uot;industry" try to make us believe that artists' main incentive = to create is the
    holy copyright and the amount of money on the credit card. They say this be= cause this is what they are in music
    for - to make lots of money. But in= reality, the artist's incentive to create comes from his talent and de= dication.

    So it does not mean that artists shouldn't be payed - they should. = But there is no need to give them a fortune at
    the expense of everybody&= #39;s freedom. Providing them a living is quite enough - and that does not = require to pay or
    even ask permission each time one of the 5 billion people of our planet dec= ides to use a piece of their work.

    I would say that as a decision on= e should credit the author if possible - if the work is commercial you shou= ld credit the
    author if you know who the author is. That would provide him with enough at= tention and that attention would be
    quite enough, I believe.

    This= is my opinion.

    Louigi.


    On Fri= , Aug 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
    Would it be appro= priate for a movie producer to take a musician's work and use it as a s= oundtrack without permission or compensation? This is after all just sampli= ng it for use in a larger and different artistic whole.

    If you answer yes, then do you view recorded music as a viable way for musi= cians to make a living?

    If you answer no, then how is this different from sampling a movie for use = in a song?

    I appreciate the atmosphere and cultural references that can come from usin= g samples, but I also recognize that at some point I'd be basically ste= aling the atmosphere and cultural associations that someone else worked to = create.

    Mark


    --0015174768f6aa189e04722dadd3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 06:26:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADCBC3BEC1; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SZLTU/99WIHhQUIl+YCBRg)" Message-id: <98A0588BE00C44828A2C790EECEB393B@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:26:20 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:26:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_SZLTU/99WIHhQUIl+YCBRg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT "NONE of them make a living by selling copies of their works." Yeah, but it would be nice, wouldn't it? t --Boundary_(ID_SZLTU/99WIHhQUIl+YCBRg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
    "NONE of them make a living by selling copies of their works."
     
    Yeah, but it would be nice, wouldn't it?
     
     
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    On the other hand if the artist gets enough money from selli= ng copies - he might
    not do concerts!

    On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
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    Yeah, but it would be nice, woul= dn't=20 it?
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 09:25:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EB193BEC9; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=z+d5LNrY0SbATl7wpZ2M7k/ElAhL146NdB3hiyK1JM4=; b=x4eVxvQ0lZaikymG2B+MXhJMkrBMMoW315Ye1+mm0cLS26vDE+wFWrAYcf/E5ECjv8 HiGAdznfchPBG9aouLdRPmR5E2mQBXGv4QqggY7i/fKpz9umVp1nGJPQaJthGtN/YSU6 tSpRcCQKPXKzCd+NCB5tTRV1uzEqbEWvQbpTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=c6B7QgDpPrecun/+Q2b25y/AXbjMng361419Pw71nweRVoabPMuQ17TK14O4/n6WQ4 A/VvONjTO7F1KvfrMs5y2qZ4gKpZfr11SYIHSVW3D5ZF09AiTJkrmV3Tnbw2lzRyzq47 wpPWmLY8G9Pa2BVCG71eTbWGoB2qjsHF2pZq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908272330h72752c1er255e03db64debd10@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> <98A0588BE00C44828A2C790EECEB393B@NORBY11> <20aeede50908272330h72752c1er255e03db64debd10@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:25:04 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1e968ae744ca694d Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908280225sc81a213lcbf2dfbd03f3a0d1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bb4d8c9a3304723043d6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:25:26 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bb4d8c9a3304723043d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think that this is a fascinating thread, one that Louigi has singlehandedly defended his pov, in opposition to most on this list. His arguments are intelligent and well formulated and NOT without some level of compromise. He has taken the right approach, of considering the issue not from a business point of view, full of "what ifs" and "well thens", but from a real world... "well thats how it is", point of view... Remember the sampling issue is NOT to be confused with the downoading a pirate copy issue. A sample is a few seconds long, it is either so unreconisable by the time it gets to you in that "Hip Hop drum hits collection 9", you can never tell who made it, or its a reconisable phrase from a song of yore, in which case it is not only giving that long forgoton artist a few sales of their own, or at the very least hailing them respectfully. Louigi also rightly sets some things straight about our own livings as musicians. Why are we really so pissed off about people nicking our stuff? Us.. mostly purveyors of new, exiting and experimental work... are we really "in it for the money?", are any of us really losing ANY money by people nicking samples of our work? I would like to estimate (dont correct me if Im wrong) that there is only a handful of jobbing musicians ON this list. (Per, maybe, but he earns via writing music, Rick maybe, but he teaches, Zoe... ahh Zoe.. thank god for Zoe...and a few others no doubt)... so WHY are we so angry about some kid who makes a few bucks off us? Goddamit... we should be PROUD!!! I for one was suprised that a track of mine suddenly popped up as a program link music on the national TV station... I know a few people there, so it was probablt one of them, they never own up tho... but i was HAPPY about it!! Before any one trys the "if it was YOU" approach, I was in a professional band for 12 years, on a major record label, 6 albums, UK top 10 single, toured the world... the issue of sampling us... never cropped up.. never discussed either in the band, or by the record company... its such a small issue and the amount of money that you SHOULD pay an artist for 30 secs is microscopic... unless of course you happen to write a absolutely HUGE hit, that bases that song on that sample... THEN... and only then... YOU SHOULD PAY.... and them lawyers will come and getcha and make you pay... ... and really.. thats the best way... dont worry about how the record company bosses make their money, or whether you are screwing a multimillionaire out of small change... I think it was Crass who printed on the cover of their album "Penis Envy".. STEAL THIS RECORD I'm on Louigis side Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5bb4d8c9a3304723043d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that this is a fascinating thread, one that Louigi has singlehanded= ly defended his pov, in opposition to most on this list. His arguments are = intelligent and well formulated and NOT without some level of compromise. H= e has taken the right approach, of considering the issue not from a busines= s point of view, full of "what ifs" and "well thens", b= ut from a real world... "well thats how it is", point of view...<= br>
    Remember the sampling issue is NOT to be confused with the downoading a= pirate copy issue. A sample is a few seconds long, it is either so unrecon= isable by the time it gets to you in that "Hip Hop drum hits collectio= n 9", you can never tell who made it, or its a reconisable phrase from= a song of yore, in which case it is not only giving that long forgoton art= ist a few sales of their own, or at the very least hailing them respectfull= y.

    Louigi also rightly sets some things straight about our own livings as = musicians. Why are we really so pissed off about people nicking our stuff? = Us.. mostly purveyors of new, exiting and experimental work... are we reall= y "in it for the money?", are any of us really losing ANY money b= y people nicking samples of our work? I would like to estimate (dont correc= t me if Im wrong) that there is only a handful of jobbing musicians ON this= list. (Per, maybe, but he earns via writing music, Rick maybe, but he teac= hes, Zoe... ahh Zoe.. thank god for Zoe...and a few others no doubt)... so = WHY are we so angry about some kid who makes a few bucks off us? Goddamit..= . we should be PROUD!!!
    I for one was suprised that a track of mine suddenly popped up as a program= link music on the national TV station... I know a few people there, so it = was probablt one of them, they never own up tho... but i was HAPPY about it= !!

    Before any one trys the "if it was YOU" approach, I was in a = professional band for 12 years, on a major record label, 6 albums, UK top 1= 0 single, toured the world... the issue of sampling us... never cropped up.= . never discussed either in the band, or by the record company... its such = a small issue and the amount of money that you SHOULD pay an artist for 30 = secs is microscopic... unless of course you happen to write a absolutely HU= GE hit, that bases that song on that sample... THEN... and only then... YOU= SHOULD PAY.... and them lawyers will come and getcha and make you pay... <= br>
    ... and really.. thats the best way...

    dont worry about how the = record company bosses make their money, or whether you are screwing a multi= millionaire out of small change...

    I think it was Crass who printed = on the cover of their album "Penis Envy"..

    STEAL THIS RECORD

    I'm on Louigis side

    Mark



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    --001636c5bb4d8c9a3304723043d6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 09:39:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D004D3BEC4; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pgq9qjUPkso34xc6WRKcAars+aUL0YlskEJXTciJGiY=; b=C2HsxdSa5u2D6hqHcpPfKEgMr7VFFon/nUvQW42cEsvr2dMk2ux5lhis/M2YvqIx7F YAz9w7cFSWQzp+5lVBCTCORmYin5ADeb1pcL1IbIC+VmEPCOYmVnk7G2R0Z0s9mmg9ci /PVPu4O4oa73jXLB5A5iDXB1T9NnBMPob2pcg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S5RlRZZRmC0NXZq6JpnEjzVrgbjf98rY0QHbiWKIrPSASd6LKnqOOirc3cSf5M7ksQ nHgrSQTN/ReQ/sR1qKnHwJnWdk9vVhBc6REL+gXFrgZ418S3IR/G8ljMzMxOU6AKrPJb qmHtQPhbiQmvCpzRwkuuMRPoY9cg6vQ02x97Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908272330h72752c1er255e03db64debd10@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> <98A0588BE00C44828A2C790EECEB393B@NORBY11> <20aeede50908272330h72752c1er255e03db64debd10@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:39:38 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908280239r691ee3e7o42217bf96c4fb408@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:39:38 +0000 (UTC) I think this thread has been focusing too much on the recording of a piece of music, while it is equally if not more important to discuss the music itself. You guys are only talking about the container and forget about the content! In many ways I agree with Louigi that copyright sucks (because it keeps people that should be creative and invent new wonderful things occupied by suing each other for infringement of copyrights) but I also think it's totally justified to have legal protection of composer's rights in music. If you look close enough, isn't it the bad legal implementation that makes the copyright law vulnerable for abuse, not the idea in itself? If we still want composers in our society we have to accept legal protection of their rights, because composers don't sell recordings of their "products" and they don't make quick money doing concerts (as performing artists may). I'm a big fan of brilliant composers and for that reason I support legal protection of the composer's/author's right to his unique idea, because that is what actually makes it possible for talented people to become composers in the first place, to pursue it as a future profession. The important point here is that a composition is just an idea and as such can not exist on a market without the legal protection that creates its "product status". Compare that to any physical product, like for example a pair of shoes, that has its product status built-in by default. We can't simply undo these modern mass societies and mass markets, created by previous generations, and I personally hope that the governments in different countries will keep up and educate the responsibility to act as a good "gardener" because this modern society really isn't a natural system that in a magical way works for the best of all living. To me the ideas expressed in the Creative Commons movement looks like the way to go, and some countries have already taken steps in that direction. Here in Sweden the leading PRO, Performance Rights Organization, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_rights_organisation, STIM just one month ago made it possible for members to apply differentiated licensing to their work. But unfortunately they implemented this in such a way that if you chose anything else than the old exclusive license (All Rights Protected), for the PRO to look after for you, you automatically miss out on getting compensated as your music is played on public radio. That's lame... but it is only 2k9 yet, the future can be changed. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 09:45:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A402D3BEC2; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:45:20 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090828094520.122770@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: FX Tempo: Tapping vs. Sync to Loop Tempo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX190CSxqz5x0ZaOCwd0yJsVaHPN/1vU2Imkm33nXq5 Z4X0JpvmUsMj3YNDQPg8TClHtsk0rhT/viHg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: B5GkfpdnTXsuc9p/mmU5C1lCRzdyMgPq X-FuHaFi: 0.76 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I had the impresion that most of you guys like to automatically sync your effects to your loop tempo. Personally, I prefer having a seperate tap tempo pedal and to play around with fx tempo, i.e. creating delays in triplets etc. Obviously, if you have loops with different tempi that you switch back and fro, I guess it could be nice to have synced FX. But I hardly use it that way. Maybe I'm missing out on some basic idea? Just wanted to hear your opinion on this. best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 10:03:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7124D3BE8C; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GctuLGmZ2Q5j+mMUBtQq+GPiaX0cJoZUdZ07uMYTKVA=; b=nbYjNPvMV8dJgwLoDOnHcT/F24mPAnc2ivPg3eS0FYLCT3iZ19HgP3LBE0Y5Rd6nF6 yTZmy7TEZSqRQ//nPEKGPyHwh+cIrytO0PYS8UwxDIq/YS9RQxEm00vbx/rCYIRHzoh2 AKGRr9wOzqVbj9drpfvSfwc9RhZNmICsb3040= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nCiB5Uzjq4crqrGiZ5YR2q3kLEoaCuhDrpLxzZ2rXh07chrEHKo9AV2iXT3TzPlzl3 EeIza8KW6MtWhwz+MiaFgr2ok5mLla5F9DYrXLsIHmuqO+gxlcHDCUfUGhQhzxvzk+P5 CEpP/uy68zoSKKwi70uPj2/o67Qgf7QpHImvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090828094520.122770@gmx.net> References: <20090828094520.122770@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:03:43 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908280303w39754017h83c04bfd7a337a44@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FX Tempo: Tapping vs. Sync to Loop Tempo From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-swbcB.A.j8B.Bu6lKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:03:45 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I had the impresion that most of you guys like to automatically sync your effects to your loop tempo. > Personally, I prefer having a seperate tap tempo pedal and to play around with fx tempo, i.e. creating delays in triplets etc. > > Obviously, if you have loops with different tempi that you switch back and fro, I guess it could be nice to have synced FX. But I hardly use it that way. > > Maybe I'm missing out on some basic idea? Just wanted to hear your opinion on this. I think both contexts are good for making music. Just try them and then pick what you think works best for whatever you are up to. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 10:08:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1092E3BE92; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20090827222010.47390@gmx.net> References: <20090827222010.47390@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:07:43 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Simple Multiple Loop Sampling Tool for Mac? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:08:01 +0000 (UTC) At 12:20 AM +0200 8/28/09, buzap@gmx.net wrote: > >I want to create a bunch (i.e. 15) of live loops that I want to >assign to keyboard buttons and then trigger (either single-shot or >loop) whenever I like (also several together). > >What would be the best way to do it on a Mac? >My own best guess would be to define 15 parallel loops in SooperLooper. > >Any - better - ideas? Mobius? Musolomo, from Plasq. Not only can you live sample and have each auto-assigned to the keyboard on the fly, it will also assign ranges so that the sample pitch is transposed across the available unassigned keys left on the keyboard. Manipulations (such as pitch/time stretch and reverse) can be done via CC as well. The only really glaring omission is any sort of Feedback control. Pretty cool, although they stopped actively supporting it a while back. You can get the UB version here (scroll down to about the thrid reply): http://is.gd/2DHO7 Also, I think you might be able to do similar with CrossFade Loop Synth, but I'm not certain about handling 15 loops at a time with the live effect version. --m. -- _____ "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 10:28:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56BCD3BE88; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+zeBTYZV+YSjAqFnBqOGnxs68ERcQcZxkPBL1t8er3A=; b=w9c6XP1EnmMM9uwXUIkCKmegrWK9eEQgMAg5dIIJuaIfzT7KwTGMDVhSTikC+StQkz N0aBedFYTOwEAP2qaGDxP0+YtiuU13Ox25yQYadfmAwFzOgbKv6OANojmHgpZ5SdwMr6 KoCEigl5FFT4IBuceI1Gb1cSuAIY6j3qe7njw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AFJkq3D/dheWXBRBT5178Txa+oB9b6sKIh/GYV0qnsAXVOvoD99OAMCZcQiEQBbfui 4Of3c76kyiu+kdzcA+KGMN/PhOAUDMhz3Smju9wW9hVBBvFc/eNaD1PN8nQOxTuhFfb8 Wj0LKFUe8n+fHzfhKmzIlby74Kx+dq/K771LA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908280239r691ee3e7o42217bf96c4fb408@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> <98A0588BE00C44828A2C790EECEB393B@NORBY11> <20aeede50908272330h72752c1er255e03db64debd10@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908280239r691ee3e7o42217bf96c4fb408@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:27:58 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908280327g2ae2be35pbfff9ec29907ef1e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174757a44ff2e9047231231f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:28:00 +0000 (UTC) --0015174757a44ff2e9047231231f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, Per, I agree on the legal implementation thing and that Creative Commons seems as a way to go. I would however point out that before the 20-th century copyright did not exist. As an economical idea it appeared at the end of the 19th century. That means that you can be a composer and yet not have any copyrights. Not all composers do shows, but today the work of a composer is needed as never before - music for tv, movies, games, presentations, radio, events - all of that is well paid. I have several game composers who are my friends. They live on these one time pays. The pays are substantial if they are writing a soundtrack for a game. That allows them to live fine. All the rights to their music they give away to the game company. So copyright might be implemented well - it has to be much shorter and its restrictions should restrict only very specific uses of a work. I actually enjoy Richard Stallman's ideas on copyright. If anyone's interested, you can see a video here (it is in 12 parts, about 40 minutes long): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mUhTwmUQt4&feature=channel_page Cheers! Louigi. --0015174757a44ff2e9047231231f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, Per, I agree on the legal implementation thing and that Creative Comm= ons seems as a way to go.

    I would however point out that before the = 20-th century copyright did not
    exist. As an economical idea it appeared= at the end of the 19th century. That
    means that you can be a composer and yet not have any copyrights.

    No= t all composers do shows, but today the work of a composer is needed as nev= er
    before - music for tv, movies, games, presentations, radio, events - = all of that is well
    paid. I have several game composers who are my friends. They live on these = one time pays.
    The pays are substantial if they are writing a soundtrack= for a game. That allows them to
    live fine. All the rights to their musi= c they give away to the game company.

    So copyright might be implemented well - it has to be much shorter and = its restrictions should
    restrict only very specific uses of a work.
    <= br>I actually enjoy Richard Stallman's ideas on copyright. If anyone= 9;s interested, you can see a video
    here (it is in 12 parts, about 40 minutes long):

    http://www= .youtube.com/watch?v=3D-mUhTwmUQt4&feature=3Dchannel_page

    Ch= eers!

    Louigi.


    --0015174757a44ff2e9047231231f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 10:32:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4074D3BE85; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:32:43 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c7db93f1-8aa3-44c5-8206-0b0ba3669542_" X-Originating-IP: [213.67.76.24] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Samples and looping Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:27:42 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2009 10:27:43.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D5B5DC0:01CA27CA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:32:44 +0000 (UTC) --_c7db93f1-8aa3-44c5-8206-0b0ba3669542_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So IF filmmakers could ligt any music they like from any media=2C other fil= ms=2C videogames=2C music etc=2C do you really think that they would pay a = composer for a commisoned peice of music?? Somtimes yes=2C but much less fr= equelntly. THe artist that makes a furtune are less than 1% af the artist o= ut there... must artist struggle for every cent... If you could use any alr= eady existing peice of music=2C or other art=2C copmpletly free even fewer = would be able to make a living from art. Thsi will NOT affect the richest a= s much since they can sell theier name for endorsments and usage in commerc= ials. Or du you think that it would be free to use=2C for example=2C. MIles= name and art when making commercials???=20 If you make 100 000$ on remiastereing and reselling a tune I have composed = and recorded should you have all the money?? If so it means that the unknow= n composers should count on heving their best peices stolen so that the wel= l known artist can use their art to make BIG money... =20 Date: Fri=2C 28 Aug 2009 10:20:19 +0400 Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: louigi.verona@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hey Mark! "If you answer yes=2C then do you view recorded music as a viable way for m= usicians to make a living?" I would answer yes. There is a considerable difference between making a living and making a fortune. If a composer writes music specifically for a movie and he has a= contract=2C I believe he should receive a one time pay. It might be big or not=2C but it should be a one time thing. If a film director is using someone's music in his movie=2C he can choose t= o pay the composer to thank him=2C but he=2C in my opinion=2C should not be obliged. I know personally about a hundred professional musicians. Very different mu= sicians - classical composers=2C game composers=2C pop music writers. NONE of them make a living by selling copie= s of their works. They do sometimes sell cds on their concerts=2C but they do not rely on disc selling as their= primary basis. And they live absolutely fine without getting royalties each time someone cuts out 5 seconds of thei= r work. You also say an interesting thing: you say that you can "steal" atmosphere = that someone else worked to create. This is a very interesting statement because it reveals how a lot of us vie= w creativity - as something that is done purely to an advantage of the artist. But not all people aim to get money= =2C fame and other things when they do art. There are a lot of people who do art because they cannot be otherwise=2C be= cause their heart calls them to say something important that lies within their spirit. They do not care for rew= ards. And thus - when they are using a piece of work someone else created=2C this use is legit=2C morally legit be= cause in turn their own work will be as usable to everybody else. An example: do you know that Shakespeare took many plots= of his famous plays from works of other authors? Today it would've been called a cheap rip off. But is it? I = do not believe so. Modern "show business" and music "industry" try to make us believe that art= ists' main incentive to create is the holy copyright and the amount of money on the credit card. They say this be= cause this is what they are in music for - to make lots of money. But in reality=2C the artist's incentive to cr= eate comes from his talent and dedication. So it does not mean that artists shouldn't be payed - they should. But ther= e is no need to give them a fortune at the expense of everybody's freedom. Providing them a living is quite enough= - and that does not require to pay or even ask permission each time one of the 5 billion people of our planet dec= ides to use a piece of their work. I would say that as a decision one should credit the author if possible - i= f the work is commercial you should credit the author if you know who the author is. That would provide him with enough at= tention and that attention would be quite enough=2C I believe. This is my opinion. Louigi. On Fri=2C Aug 28=2C 2009 at 6:00 AM=2C Mark Hamburg wrot= e: Would it be appropriate for a movie producer to take a musician's work and = use it as a soundtrack without permission or compensation? This is after al= l just sampling it for use in a larger and different artistic whole. If you answer yes=2C then do you view recorded music as a viable way for mu= sicians to make a living? If you answer no=2C then how is this different from sampling a movie for us= e in a song? I appreciate the atmosphere and cultural references that can come from usin= g samples=2C but I also recognize that at some point I'd be basically steal= ing the atmosphere and cultural associations that someone else worked to cr= eate. Mark --_c7db93f1-8aa3-44c5-8206-0b0ba3669542_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So IF filmmakers could ligt any music they like from any media=2C =3Bot= her films=2C videogames=2C music etc=2C do you really think that they would= pay a composer for a commisoned peice of music?? Somtimes yes=2C but much = less frequelntly. THe artist that makes a furtune are less than 1% af the a= rtist out there... must artist struggle for every =3Bcent... If you cou= ld use any already existing peice of music=2C or other art=2C copmpletly fr= ee even fewer would be able to make a living =3Bfrom art. Thsi will NOT= affect the richest as much since they can sell theier name for endorsments= and =3Busage in commercials. Or du you think that it would be free to = use=2C for example=2C. MIles name and art when making commercials???
    If you =3Bmake 100 000$ on remiastereing and reselling =3Ba tune I = have composed and recorded should you have all the money?? =3BIf so it = means that the unknown composers =3Bshould count on heving their best p= eices stolen so that the well known artist can use their art to make BIG mo= ney...
     =3B
    Date: Fri=2C 28 Aug 2009 10:20:19 +0400
    Subject: Re: Samples and looping=
    From: louigi.verona@gmail.com
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m

    Hey Mark!

    "If you answer yes=2C then do you view recorded m= usic as a viable way for musicians to make a living?"

    I would answer= yes.
    There is a considerable difference between making a living and mak= ing
    a fortune. If a composer writes music specifically for a movie and h= e has a contract=2C I believe he should receive a
    one time pay. It might= be big or not=2C but it should be a one time thing.
    If a film director = is using someone's music in his movie=2C he can choose to pay the composer = to thank him=2C but he=2C
    in my opinion=2C should not be obliged.
    I k= now personally about a hundred professional musicians. Very different music= ians - classical composers=2C game
    composers=2C pop music writers. NONE = of them make a living by selling copies of their works. They do sometimessell cds on their concerts=2C but they do not rely on disc selling as the= ir primary basis. And they live absolutely
    fine without getting royaltie= s each time someone cuts out 5 seconds of their work.

    You also say a= n interesting thing: you say that you can "steal" atmosphere that someone e= lse worked to create.
    This is a very interesting statement because it re= veals how a lot of us view creativity - as something that is done
    purely= to an advantage of the artist. But not all people aim to get money=2C fame= and other things when they do art.
    There are a lot of people who do art= because they cannot be otherwise=2C because their heart calls them to say<= BR>something important that lies within their spirit. They do not care for = rewards. And thus - when they are using a
    piece of work someone else cre= ated=2C this use is legit=2C morally legit because in turn their own work w= ill be as usable
    to everybody else. An example: do you know that Shakesp= eare took many plots of his famous plays from works of
    other authors? To= day it would've been called a cheap rip off. But is it? I do not believe so= .

    Modern "show business" and music "industry" try to make us believe= that artists' main incentive to create is the
    holy copyright and the am= ount of money on the credit card. They say this because this is what they a= re in music
    for - to make lots of money. But in reality=2C the artist's = incentive to create comes from his talent and dedication.

    So it does= not mean that artists shouldn't be payed - they should. But there is no ne= ed to give them a fortune at
    the expense of everybody's freedom. Providi= ng them a living is quite enough - and that does not require to pay or
    e= ven ask permission each time one of the 5 billion people of our planet deci= des to use a piece of their work.

    I would say that as a decision one= should credit the author if possible - if the work is commercial you shoul= d credit the
    author if you know who the author is. That would provide hi= m with enough attention and that attention would be
    quite enough=2C I be= lieve.

    This is my opinion.

    Louigi.


    On Fri=2C Aug 28=2C 2009 at 6:00 AM=2C Mark Ham= burg <=3Bmark@grubmah= .com>=3B wrote:
    Would it be = appropriate for a movie producer to take a musician's work and use it as a = soundtrack without permission or compensation? This is after all just sampl= ing it for use in a larger and different artistic whole.

    If you answ= er yes=2C then do you view recorded music as a viable way for musicians to = make a living?

    If you answer no=2C then how is this different from s= ampling a movie for use in a song?

    I appreciate the atmosphere and c= ultural references that can come from using samples=2C but I also recognize= that at some point I'd be basically stealing the atmosphere and cultural a= ssociations that someone else worked to create.
    Mark


    = --_c7db93f1-8aa3-44c5-8206-0b0ba3669542_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 10:41:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 193093BE78; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GB+MH4OQ1giKLFOOK+M9sI1X87v96Se8UFOpXRH56GI=; b=BQ06LvfpsqHGZuyYwR2p8B9sIBNe4EgIM9NgXT7nLEMCQlqDY8sEm9ke5L96m5uRsu oUik+XIjKHjgpgWTxaP4DzQk+NBnLpvnkr8k2HB81lx51rejwvg3+Hx6Daox1+AomDNS /invt9XOJyGCa1vhtsRy1R7r/1/y6xzwQm8yw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F8wrdq75cxikxA7n+mvy91lh5PfmvaPtOnEaes7VDbqcgQZbtw5tW9c74fz56r+R42 qM35sdXjQb5Gyoy4dVgKTLtUXgK/HPDo3bNxE2xKJn+PY6lkfA8O/v06lgtc3A3A9uWa eSaLzDcW6FXiogkqhWAvs9lfrtxBLFcbEDRM8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:41:01 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908280341i1ab27c15nf5f786a7eb449fc5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174768f6012dab0472315224 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:41:03 +0000 (UTC) --0015174768f6012dab0472315224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Anders! Thanks for your opinion. Here's how I see it. "If you make 100 000$ on remiastereing and reselling a tune I have composed and recorded should you have all the money??" Well.... as I understand, your statement assumes that making 100 000$ out of reselling tunes is easy. But is it? With yesterday's technology it was a serious enterprise - not only you had to sort out legal issues, you had to actually set up physical media production, hire people to make cover art, print it out, deliver it to the shops, then advertise and make people come and buy. It's a hell lot of work with lots of risk. This is what a profession of a salesman has been for all human history. With today's technology it is even less feasible. Selling files is an absurd business model and no matter how much mp3 shops swear at people by calling them pirates and criminals, nobody wants to pay for air - nobody wants to pay for files. So this reselling scenario is really not as realistic as you might think. In fact, I have yet to see when this happens. Most shops would prefer to pay the artist so that he delivers his material to them first anyway - it would be beneficial to them. If not - the artist would get a lot of exposure thanks to the shop's advertising if it works out at all. Lots of people would come to the artist's show or if he is not performing - pay him for music to be written for films, games, events, etc. Louigi. --0015174768f6012dab0472315224 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Anders!
    Thanks for your opinion. Here's how I see it.

    &qu= ot;If you=A0make 100 000$ on remiastereing and reselling=A0a tune I have co= mposed and recorded should you have all the money??"

    Well.... a= s I understand, your statement assumes that making 100 000$ out of resellin= g tunes is easy. But is it? With yesterday's
    technology it was a serious enterprise - not only you had to sort out legal= issues, you had to actually set up physical media production,
    hire peop= le to make cover art, print it out, deliver it to the shops, then advertise= and make people come and buy. It's a hell lot of work with
    lots of risk. This is what a profession of a salesman has been for all huma= n history.
    With today's technology it is even less feasible. Selling= files is an absurd business model and no matter how much mp3 shops swear a= t people
    by calling them pirates and criminals, nobody wants to pay for air - nobody= wants to pay for files.

    So this reselling scenario is really not as= realistic as you might think. In fact, I have yet to see when this happens= . Most shops would prefer to
    pay the artist so that he delivers his material to them first anyway - it w= ould be beneficial to them. If not - the artist would get a lot of exposure=
    thanks to the shop's advertising if it works out at all. Lots of pe= ople would come to the artist's show or if he is not performing - pay h= im for music
    to be written for films, games, events, etc.

    Louigi.
    --0015174768f6012dab0472315224-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 10:42:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5B653BE8E; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:42:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A97B529.1080603@het.it> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:44:57 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani H&T Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: moebius and midi macro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090823-0, 23/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:42:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi to all the looper! anyone knows with moebius how to assign a multiple command (macro?) to a silngle shot pedal? I got a macbook, moebius, m-audio oxigene, cubase 4 SL and a FCB1010. For example: i'd like to rise up one or two tones my loop with a single shot and not by half tones at time is it possible? I thought that 'scripts' would be usefull for this porpose but i couldn't do it. T.I.A. Max Liver From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 10:53:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DDE03BE95; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4s1RedxGHTDtIJF5qJoMQuNau/9CymTn1JC+hUMIaDA=; b=dQrgCt+HxxZFKeSYO21Ey47dZLELJvPXzmkOHp4soKTnhOOWedkSpxcldTjKsgTXy4 9nj5rVELF8qmYa9pn6SOkwS2ofmUivGV34+UMjYTbFfZKf1Jje/OWxS/9M6opKJ5r+BU r94i+gKHQoS62MU4MXi1QkqoRrxFEz8DnZbdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SOGfp45alBwizYRhhg16Zb2gzRD66iWBCrzO4Mzzp8DHns6SK8G7VR3RhyLjomI2JC CTNI1fFkuciTShz7VgAi3oTjNhZS6AMcb6DL83qr/tFnGNNuQ7VZDdjr/vgQ/o8fyLvH tTHc98vDUI3GHCy0+ISTHgxZu+WTLf9aF+Dp8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:53:45 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908280353l5f1b7df6s4e77bab69c80be1d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:53:46 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > If you=C2=A0make 100 000$ on remiastereing and reselling=C2=A0a tune I ha= ve composed > and recorded should you have all the money?? Yes, that's the way it works. The work the record label does is to remaster the recording, print copies and distribute them. None of that is the work of the composer. He made the music, not the recording or the CD record copies. The composer gets paid when his music is used for playback or performance in public or for commercial reasons. However, if a lable puts out new copies of a recording of music you have composed it is likely that the use of this music will increase, and that means more money goes to you. If you as the composer are also the artist whose performance (of your composition) was recorded for this product, then it is a different situation; then you (the artist) would get a small cut of the label's income of record sales. > If so it means that the unknown > composers=C2=A0should count on heving their best peices stolen so that th= e well > known artist can use their art to make BIG money... Yup, that's what they do! The business model for that is called "placing tracks". You compose a song and take help from a publisher to find an artist with millions of fans and an active record company to record the song and release it. The record company gets the royalty from sold records (and some performance compensation when the song is played on air in countries that give this), the artist gets a cut for the record sales via the label (6% up to 20%) (and some performance compensation when the song is played on air in countries that give this). You, as the composer, get your part out of the "publishing money", which is the big part of what radio and television stations, shopping malls etc pays for the right to use the music and this is normally split with 66% to you and 33% to your publisher. In some countries a 50/50 cut on publishing is also common. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 11:06:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E0033BEAE; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QyzNfZhGGOwtL8WVjduF5OoS99vGvK3mKS12vnVQyhU=; b=MK8ZLTmOry7cEas/6DuJnYWR8W6yzkPxq3VYlLsg/oAJhDVmp3lGCSUOy1hs0xkAlj dvQ80fT1TeJvUPHWA/D26OZX12qkE+f4Tihpm5ayp2vi0N+OlYqFFZiVtFU+OyCoWq3Z Lcv2UjJYKhK8jysM+zUDKqADEIJi39f0k2WfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AfsKf0NeU6uPRs3yTa0X76AJ2zflqPXM00gbB9mV9q/0gPBAoQr7ma8FE3Jq5gQnwL PM+ZpPdlWDvwjMUnVHLitNZ9eWf5EPluq9deqcBp7uNx74V4vqhT6pTq5FmMaiIQdh2Z Rsr3vRvnJ9wGmst6URbAw9g0GbXNmSn+Bbm7k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908280353l5f1b7df6s4e77bab69c80be1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908280353l5f1b7df6s4e77bab69c80be1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:06:10 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908280406s7827970eu24a0e668c139ccf6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:06:11 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > The work the record label does He, he... for the record I would just like to add that all this is a pretty moot discussion, since "the traditional record industry" is dead anyway ;-)) Maybe publishing will survive, since it is dealing with the immaterial sides of music. But music can not easily be divided into "idea" and "recording" in 2k9, because we have now files that are not copies but CLONES - actually the same as the original master. It doesn't make sense to sell recordings of music anymore and the infra structure to keep track on and compensate for public use of music is falling apart. Stuff that makes sense to sell is rather channelized distribution of eclectic material that saves time for the listener. In other words, the market for music has changed from an industrial mass market into a jungle of micro markets that each one is so tiny and narrow that only D-I-Y artists and really small and specialized enterprises can work within it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 11:20:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAAB63BEBA; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7b99deee-572f-4439-b72d-68837b71342e_" X-Originating-IP: [213.67.76.24] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Samples and looping Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:20:05 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908280353l5f1b7df6s4e77bab69c80be1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908280353l5f1b7df6s4e77bab69c80be1d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2009 11:20:05.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E971880:01CA27D1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:20:06 +0000 (UTC) --_7b99deee-572f-4439-b72d-68837b71342e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand what you say=2C But=2C what Lougi argues for is that if someon= e creates a peice of music=2C anyone can take it remixit=2C or rerecord it = with a well known artist and the composer would not get anything at all. (s= ort of like Big Mama Thornton wrote "hound Dog" with out getting a cent fro= m Elvis' HUGE succes...) Of course this discussion is somewhat obsolete in the modern world. THe software music creators get payd for thier wiotk just as the classical = composers often wrote on commision. A good model... but is is it OK for an= other Game company to lift the music and use it in thier game for free??? = What about the first company who payed someona a good salary to get the mus= ic in the first place... =20 =20 > Date: Fri=2C 28 Aug 2009 12:53:45 +0200 > Subject: Re: Samples and looping > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Fri=2C Aug 28=2C 2009 at 12:27 PM=2C Anders > Bergdahl wrote: > > If you make 100 000$ on remiastereing and reselling a tune I have compo= sed > > and recorded should you have all the money?? >=20 > Yes=2C that's the way it works. The work the record label does is to > remaster the recording=2C print copies and distribute them. None of that > is the work of the composer. He made the music=2C not the recording or > the CD record copies. The composer gets paid when his music is used > for playback or performance in public or for commercial reasons. > However=2C if a lable puts out new copies of a recording of music you > have composed it is likely that the use of this music will increase=2C > and that means more money goes to you. >=20 > If you as the composer are also the artist whose performance (of your > composition) was recorded for this product=2C then it is a different > situation=3B then you (the artist) would get a small cut of the label's > income of record sales. >=20 >=20 > > If so it means that the unknown > > composers should count on heving their best peices stolen so that the w= ell > > known artist can use their art to make BIG money... >=20 > Yup=2C that's what they do! The business model for that is called > "placing tracks". You compose a song and take help from a publisher to > find an artist with millions of fans and an active record company to > record the song and release it. The record company gets the royalty > from sold records (and some performance compensation when the song is > played on air in countries that give this)=2C the artist gets a cut for > the record sales via the label (6% up to 20%) (and some performance > compensation when the song is played on air in countries that give > this). You=2C as the composer=2C get your part out of the "publishing > money"=2C which is the big part of what radio and television stations=2C > shopping malls etc pays for the right to use the music and this is > normally split with 66% to you and 33% to your publisher. In some > countries a 50/50 cut on publishing is also common. >=20 > Per >=20 --_7b99deee-572f-4439-b72d-68837b71342e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand what you say=2C But=2C what Lougi argues for =3Bis that if= someone creates a peice of music=2C anyone can take it remixit=2C or rerec= ord it with a well known artist and the composer would not get anything at = all. (sort of like Big Mama Thornton wrote "hound Dog" with out getting a c= ent from Elvis' HUGE succes...)
    Of course this discussion =3Bis somewhat obsolete in the modern world.<= BR> THe software music creators get payd for thier wiotk just as the classical = composers often wrote on commision. =3B A good model... =3Bbut is i= s it OK =3Bfor an other Game company to lift the music and use it in th= ier game =3Bfor free??? What about the first company who payed someona = a good =3Bsalary to get the music in the first =3Bplace...  =3B=

     =3B
    >=3B Date: Fri=2C 28 Aug 2009 12:53:45 +0200
    >=3B Su= bject: Re: Samples and looping
    >=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
    >= =3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    >=3B
    >=3B On Fri=2C = Aug 28=2C 2009 at 12:27 PM=2C Anders
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Thanks so much - "Sucker 'em in and Pound Them" - hehe, that might be my next album name... On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Loren Claypool wrote: > Warren, > > Thanks for sharing your new piece, I love the juxtaposition between the > intro and the body of the piece, kind of a sucker 'em in, then pound 'em > approach! I dig the guitar tones in the intro, the "ring mod" section, and > the "fuzz" section. Finally your effects playing in the closing section, > especially the slicing kind of thing you are doing. Very nice, sir! > > All the best, > > Loren Claypool > genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music > www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there > > > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 11:43:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E44383BE8B; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=H5jdAQEIkIG4clbbuJEssPB4FMHHk9St9YuDn0KBd3U=; b=JZpdQmImW3anzFHP9vSB8QQC1qd0rjHFjIgvGYZTctRwgqXd89/295LCCaT5ras9SI LMATAC5ecGCHRf7aujigYWRWMoJ08EqCmrdJNxao5ad36DswuX9+iHOLBe7/fhfCMUf4 WO+JFRzj1MGouFHjr/WjaCGBOC17g3dKt4avw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PlDqCdKLYYgTwXBt5ckTOcdWVGlQtKg7mkBdWairn3PhyrAUUW8KysWe6z/amVwZe1 uzqi8nkxvYtq36rPIYWmCiMc4ZK8skEdgo7/PgPV3GFjT5utQqdD0xCnAj4ckAldccF4 0iuuYeAo6LERFRk9C/74FyUteCt0fHIcP1kzA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:43:29 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908280443o2ab72f46r734ece4f450fb26f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_Uu6gC.A.SDG.jL8lKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:43:31 +0000 (UTC) It is true, the company is doing business as Pirate Bay AB / Inc. The owners of this corporation use offshore accounts instead of ordinary Swedish bank accounts. Around US$2M are deposited in their offshore accounts every year from advertising clients. This is a serious estimation from well respected independent financial analysts who have nothing to do with the record labels or the authorities. Of course, it is not possible to know precisely how much money those accounts hold, because offshore financial centers are anonymous. This is a classic money laundering and tax evading mafia and drug cartel trick. On 8/28/09, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >> Pirate Bay is a corporation - a multimillion dollar one. Their shares >> are available for sale in the stock markets. How many dollars have >> those businessmen invested in art? Zero. How many artists have those >> businessmen assisted financially? Zero. > > I do not believe this is true. To my knowledge, the Pirate Bay is NOT > a corporation. It was supposed to be sold to a company for $7 million > or so, but that deal has not been completed nor does it look like it > will be. > > > kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 12:05:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77D193BE94; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=01l19cNjDCyvRlTVW9ygojEEQuEX5/fIAZkwRghG4Lg=; b=kh+MBW/XB1lfepHJDmfdCcSuIJ6TGOFbQM0ckb4DDtFtysU49XJ59pzcZQboUZSstx 8vKvwYPFDREhQsoFXKIi9EEtl7p9OKKbPJo4/Fdz6MI/Nog3CiBWoL2OIrk2xDmif4Ll 4202CCozqS/rvHDORNW2aaJGmwhQEJKTioFms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BFtfziTDcli9RRbQhmfmqWSrpNN3IMQohXPtn9JDg93dOfc8c3Yji7vwEPPYY7H5JX /KFSp343j5adAZjr2uKIE8WbDWL4pwsrLSu8XoeIF8eyNNrUKgi4s+ZnhDFYCSL5AohL IxHiRFVcTu8kYhrPxGWOHfmxToVgiC80uzCvA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908280353l5f1b7df6s4e77bab69c80be1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:05:16 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908280505k6e8621adp4b545c82dc0e530@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:05:17 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > I understand what you say, But, what Lougi argues for=C2=A0is that if som= eone > creates a peice of music, anyone can take it remixit, or rerecord it with= a > well known artist and the composer would not get anything at all. (sort o= f > like Big Mama Thornton wrote "hound Dog" with out getting a cent from Elv= is' > HUGE succes...) I can't see how that scenario could even happen... unless the original composer doesn't tell any one that he/she has penned the work. Then it will be up for proof who created it. > Of course this discussion=C2=A0is somewhat obsolete in the modern world. I would agree if it concerned record sales royalty, but as for the immaterial rights department I think this discussion is highly accurate and also very important. > THe software music creators get payd for thier wiotk just as the classica= l > composers often wrote on commision.=C2=A0 A good model... I agree, as for the working hour cost of the composer. But it can't replace a licensing deal, not unless most countries rewrite their law. So I don't think it is a good general model (see below) > but is is it OK=C2=A0for an > other Game company to lift the music and use it in thier game=C2=A0for fr= ee??? Of course not! That's an obvious "theft". The first game producer has bought the license form the composer and thus owns the rights to the music. > What about the first company who payed someona a good=C2=A0salary to get = the > music in the first=C2=A0place... This question confuses the music license and salary, which are two different things. The first company actually paid for not only the "work for hire" as carried out by the composer but also for the legal right to use the music in the game. This is not possible in all countries though, because of differences in the law. For example, Swedish composers are beginning to have problems working in the game scoring business because many players know that Scandinavian composers might be members of STIM (the PRO here) and STIM has until just recently only written exclusive member contracts. This means that you as a member of STIM are giving STIM the right to represent your exclusive rights to the music you compose. With such a member contract the composer can not offer a specific license deal with a player in order to give up legal rights for a specific project or to just a certain extent. And since his member contract with the PRO usually dates back earlier than the business deal with the game production player the player will lose an eventual court case. This is a real issue that has to change or otherwise the traditional PRO's will not get much new members. Media music is not a small niche as it used to be any more and every week more composing musicians need to sell music "as is" to a music user. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 12:16:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE41D3BEC7; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251461782; bh=b1xra8s+PEgEQLrQb9BqtnMhFZtRHNChCaj8R2gg9XI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SLrzT7ZYcQszyOYEkabVGLuLiPl9c6+RdkFXGcuFr+5Pcqrdm//SJwysYCSjuXVEGvRC9Vwo847TIt1Y5fPQH+G9H/ckGu9wOU6CWyJgbkW5BDfirKAbnCIoYO9vHWJmTLcg7BF21C/QC+3cUkyqcGGDOr/SoQBqkq/kK3Ffrns= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iH7dicv6jytGKLtyCFmj7rPyOcIMhuQlOzn5jR5LgV73E4PZmKyEvw0s4AeMpK4nJWWzUBmZDUpRyOGfqeaZmv82qTk0EOKDC0AziSP5IOlx7Vo5HMqcjAu0XWwG+0v9ndi9WdVYMBTpQekOVJcNL/5AklEpdyZTdb/EBXtGByQ=; Message-ID: <190457.10355.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:16:22 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: L.Angulo -Antwerp vid part 2 To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:16:23 +0000 (UTC) loop brothers there is the final one=0A=0Ahttp://www.vimeo.com/6296714=0A= =0Asorry i know i went a bit overboard with the intro but hang in there the= loop is coming;-)=0A=0Athanx for listening=0ALuis=0A=0A(P.S.i keep being t= hrown out of this list although i keep subscribing,i can post but not get t= he emails i hope you get this one)=0A=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom= =0A=0A=0A From hkblog.nbvwe3dpm4wtemjtg4ytomzsg43a-looparc=loopersdelight.com@returns.bulk.yahoo.com Fri Aug 28 12:16:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 347 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:16:45 UTC Received: from n1.bullet.hki.yahoo.com (n1.bullet.hki.yahoo.com [202.43.221.26]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D3BDA3BED2 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [202.43.221.24] by n1.bullet.hki.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2009 12:10:46 -0000 Received: from [124.108.94.158] by t1.bullet.hki.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2009 12:10:46 -0000 Date: 28 Aug 2009 20:10:46 +0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by w5.blog.hk2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2009 12:10:46 -0000 From: =?UTF-8?B?YW5nZWxhMTcw?= To: looparc@loopersdelight.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: hkblog-invite X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: hkblog-2137173276 X-Originating-IP: [218.169.104.74] Subject: =?UTF-8?B?YW5nZWxhMTcw6Lef5L2g5YiG5Lqr6Ieq5bexIEJsb2c=?= Message-Id: <20090828121645.D3BDA3BED2@arsenic.violacea.com>

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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 12:31:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12A423BED2; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MBvi6vJBFKtB2fmlK1c1caqbI4Pkds/PsZB7wfHJkRQ=; b=PTIixjmYpSOCMvLtfLsgshhEZrfqrEbb4TpjyXCUi0paG8wFxTeNsD/k40J4gxrw0V TPdGrvH8CHWowjF/W99szp9oMwLJ5YprNcxAowHaBHVtc2/NzoJDoMvoyHcykB4BL/4s Gna0woUhhALlURUVU2dPXU3Bg7qCNgFHChHEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nk3BKkFiVU+JY2z42p/K7lfySY6yUJWC389M//hJ7bObpovU4bTu/M1JS4lLAq0Y93 8up3uOjMlDJCgNxMa5JEu8TvQw3DH1fq8n54LTw5ekt9gRu4nWsRzOyW64O4vPz6eHcd /uoGEKwaeYE8TqL2sMz8EkHxgVwUZgShofvbg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <190457.10355.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <190457.10355.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:31:03 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908280531y6b80d511uc5bef7318c79534b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: L.Angulo -Antwerp vid part 2 From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0eea8874b59047232db5f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:31:04 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0eea8874b59047232db5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great stuff... I really liked the subtle development. Louigi. --000e0ce0eea8874b59047232db5f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great stuff... I really liked the subtle development.
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    --000e0ce0eea8874b59047232db5f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 12:44:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD54C3BE75; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1251463443; bh=5eOCQlXfA9fOzxAov4SkZ4fuZz5/xuIZeoXJHeMSRiU=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=qZTiS6JkYwuyhip0l001eW3KYvCmOY+aX2vJd5sy3UTR7vS7UGrIKQ+uonQMQAa8j Zqz/mSAyyhst6y4sJbaxlhv/W86l4nFggtZx1S3rHTTU+unPhI0kow29yjcBsbMJNk jIxoUSOlDLtPfprUq+avBxxGGibIRMzhF2qidLVU= Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:44:02 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re:L.Angulo -Antwerp vid part 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <2uec1C.A.E7H.UE9lKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I have the other video's ready as well in "Youtube" format, but I'm suffe= ring with time-outs while uploading them. Hang in there, I'm working on i= t. PS: Darkroom and Michael Peters already uploaded there stuff on Vimeo, se= e http://livelooping.be/ for the links --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://livelooping.be/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 14:17:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADF303BE75; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HIg+A0YNJttTl4sLJQmIYkUI8sIzr4b89yEx8vbjDts=; b=fcC4k1J41vzkwW6EdQPQ37ZwHmymbf2fwYTae+hx4tYGFmMSAobwED+G+/KPdA8HAD epxFhKYTYCHqW156cPHbG6DGSOOJoAZQ+7cn0KLtdTBkn5y3a83mDzRpX2QXmrLjGYWd BpCklLq1HRqoOiPz1f68ja3tMREDp/JzuZiU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SbVKCZuNzvF/6fq0xY/HdvdzdtLKtmdF3kUwc7JEJWFKWSzZ9wl2tsxK/s9puusR8F HnI3VF8NghJhLhDlIeQzysdJynyBvUWtB5Y9f5rP8K7266+FMCdSipzU6YCMbujr7Ved lR0coNOvNrVYmOntfVod2dICJqVCzJyZMYpeA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:17:51 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a7817cc118cd1ea6 Message-ID: <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3YXRUB.A.FPD.Rc-lKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Sorry if this sounds flip, but I'd just say, play without a net. (i say this without having followed any of the previous thread that spawned this) On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > When I was last in conscious recording mode -- as opposed to, the recorder > happens to be running while I'm playing -- the approach I found myself > taking was to improvise until I found something I liked, then hone in on > various elements of it playing the "piece" repeatedly until I had the flow > down, then record it possibly doing a couple takes while doing so. Having > then committed the piece to some form of recording medium, I would then > proceed to let it flow back out of my brain which was fine until I found > myself in a live performance situation with no material to fall back on. > > Mark > > -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 14:40:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB23B3BE72; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pveMDMsnN8o8MVJdev96zJUGgaU3IFmzaaTTUPnwRkE=; b=o1b7txFacmCwcmStXGVGe3TFYUvUpg3bR2U3SYl62kpe+LQDj5zcmPl+ManraFMYT9 08T42qh+Lx1OTfUb60g+zSR9WXK5xS/iDZHlvIe2S4As0Ol+bAncM3krMD+WLc9SHNfz DtS6qTrG/VyQw4FC2zXUK4826NR4YmHQUc5kg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oJ08v+gesBm5DdTXyPCS6z3HgpussAuL7CdTgtJD00gYumBAgHOud+19D+M/prKNmA btbPGbe0aPuAvvgJRIDlWQDsI/xRMnLcSbwd/NIO/twEnAJE7Y6y8U2eFTXMW9gQil9F VC3z4TEd8M/Z3aCUGf9CZSuD8y4vFJq4oLCa0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A965DA3.5060904@cruzio.com> References: <4A965DA3.5060904@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:40:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fd76893501be6970 Message-ID: <101191640908280740y4ee14b78ic44b677b0a889a83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Rise of Amplifier Volume in Popular Live Music Performance in the early 70's (was ECM guitarists) From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Mahavishnu was the loudest concert I ever stayed for. Glenn Branca was even louder, but not worth the ear damage (sorry, Glenn). I always point my amp directly at me. amp positioning is one of the coolest ways of ensuring that band members mix themselves properly, imo. For me, tho, I enjoy playing high-volume-type tones at low volumes. I always have to turn up in order to drown out, er.. i mean play with, the drummer :-) On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Bill Walker wrote: > "Of course Billy Cobham and > Lenny White had a lot to do with ratcheting up the volume. " > > True Bill.................I was with you at those exciting and mind bendi= ng > concerts > (we were the ONLY ones at Winterland who were standing up with our mouths > agape > at the sound of a 3rd bill group, =A0Mahavishnu, =A0playing "Inner Mounti= ng > Flame" two weeks before > they even release it on Columbia records......................what a life > changing experience that was)..... > > ........but, honestly, I have a different take on the whole ratcheting up= of > the volume controversy. > > I don't think it was Cobham and Lenny White (despite their immense power = and > volume) =A0who were responsible for ratcheting up the volume in the earli= est > days > of fusion. > > Hendrix, the Who and Blue Cheer had ramped up the volume with their guita= r > amps > in the 60's but they were using 50 and 100 watt amplifiers at the time. > I remember hearing the Jefferson Airplane debut 'Surrealistic Pillow" > two weeks before they released that record at Frost Ampitheater at Stanfo= rd > with a large collection of Fender Twin Reverbs and a smallish P.A. system > for the vocals and drums and it was deafeningly loud. > > Remember that the Beatles played Shea Stadium in New York with a > Bogen P.A. system that amplified the vocals and NOT the guitars or the > drums. > Go check out the film footage from this era. =A0 =A0 The screaming teenag= e girls > so drowned > out the music that it made the Beatles give up performing live for good. > Ringo Starr started a whole new school of studio drumming by playing fill= s > at weird > times when the screaming would subside a little bit, allowing him to > actually even > hear his own drum set. > > By the early 70's, however, =A0people were using Fender Dual Showmans and > Marshall stacks and the wattage went through the roof. > > Then equipment changed and the volume of modern popular music went > through the roof in the early 70's. > > Any acoustic trapset drummer will tell you that when you compete > with a Marshall Stack, =A0that a guitar is VASTLY louder than an acoustic > un-miced drumset. > > I've rehearsed with loud bands where I played a huge Vistalite Ludwig kit > with double 22" inch kicks large sized toms where I was completely drowne= d > out by the guitarist. =A0 I'd get blisters trying to compete with the vol= ume. > > I remember having a huge argument with the first guitarist in Tao Chemica= l > where I insisted that > he put his guitar on the side of the stage pointed directly at his ears > (where I , the drummer > had to sit for years before taking the brunt of his loud trebly sound) so > that he would turn his volume > down. > > I got huge blisters on my hands from playing as hard as I could to compet= e > and I had no nuance whatsoever in my playing. =A0It made me stronger comp= eting > but certainly not subtler. > > ******* > > Nowaday, =A0the average kid can spend $300 on a guitar amplifier on sale > that can blow the hell out of the loudest acoustic drummers. =A0Add to th= is > the > incredible reduction in dollar (euro/pound/yen) per watt that has occurre= d > in modern sound reinforcement > and the prevalence of huge subwoofers powered by literally thousands of > Watts > at large venues =A0and it's the technology that ramped up the volume > NOT the drummer. > > LOL, =A0 okay, =A0that's my drummerly rant about volume for the quarter. > I'll be back with more obnoxious soap boxing about volume in three > months.......................LOL > > Rick > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 15:14:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B6E83BE75; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <34AAC7CC-358D-4D55-AEFC-390857A62988@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908280505k6e8621adp4b545c82dc0e530@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Samples and looping Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:13:50 -0700 References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908280353l5f1b7df6s4e77bab69c80be1d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908280505k6e8621adp4b545c82dc0e530@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <1HMXl.A.Z_E.6Q_lKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he believes the law should say -- the composer gets paid by whoever commissioned the work and after that it's fair game. So, in the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with Big Mama Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, Elvis owes nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the positions, I apologize.) Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 15:23:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84E8C3BE79; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ItbiCS//DcIDwrJyzIrm76yN65B3O98l7BFDJlofaJh2SFJUlFc/W+EMMbbn4jC/; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34AAC7CC-358D-4D55-AEFC-390857A62988@grubmah.com> References: <951513.61651.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2871c3a90908271023w12e2c70ctfc3903ec5d514b19@mail.gmail.com> <3f8d9ee60908271042k476b5562yec0e2b9e065fbfdc@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00908271459n4af122fch2de1581dd369384b@mail.gmail.com> <56368D36-B2B9-4EB1-A721-89126EBB8364@grubmah.com> <20aeede50908272320o2b6367e3sa59be5d6acc530de@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908280353l5f1b7df6s4e77bab69c80be1d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908280505k6e8621adp4b545c82dc0e530@mail.gmail.com> <34AAC7CC-358D-4D55-AEFC-390857A62988@grubmah.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:22:28 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Samples and looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79dc5443adaff11b0616cbce043922d893350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller who also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis heard that and loved it. He re-recorded it. Lieber and Stoller still got their royalties. :) >Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects composer's rights. >Louigi is arguing about what he believes the law should say -- the >composer gets paid by whoever commissioned the work and after that >it's fair game. So, in the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a >deal with Big Mama Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, >Elvis owes nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the >positions, I apologize.) > >Mark -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 15:37:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 393A13BE7E; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251473825; bh=2xkvE4PtRFnw35iq9p8UcfGsjPtjfGbi2gr+rma+7T0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PNdN6mmpRabVyQLuPbf6eEapSHLaxkh1O6r16hz/iS4rp3CNkMKJ5NhBeGOSqnXQr5eebGU2ySRGBj3+HA+b5icvzMCV2zuhPrl7LYo2og3OdGhEcRI2piBjLs/uY/RB1fVfgVzZmr/upyuilEt4HrbTAsaqhjMiZhKbpxjdKjA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Iyb86ycSvHs3wO5OlZizXoDBFLJKt/yqgc94BK4PI2x0CXUHYk4Vm8qjGqwpIMxArbhBMNGPKts51eO1ysduL6Na/lAokdVMx/USNqFel+u/KaGthIm/tB5As7mh4R/fzAdExaWkoG+4Cof8GnAy8/Q0ZK+lQpv62Rr0eAhcJ4U=; Message-ID: <437093.87752.qm@web65610.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Ia2kOZoVM1ls71EawQGj4zZ47izcUOnrS79RMxKl4.wLDw3a0NpV7aw6hetEtn4FRKT7YN48hBGkihp3eyOZJfWlbsGycSnpVPt9CFs.xSVTEP04n_uKad3RW0n.h.gZgAEYnFzZ5Ccs5Qz_.ULhmbBpITId_qIksZC73NIkPRA4dthA_ajLWS2ssmY4bx_o6oQdUQeFUPY_fNn5lhT1on631yAHRSnZ8yAZJewXx3CxFSrblmBiZpEyc7lrwlDs8dokbJGydavl6w9.1DDPQa0irKgUjakLorzVgbcGUP.m7aq6tCMgIWLlIJiGAbn4Yq9gNESNLEuKceEAQ6m.6ocTYxxE_OW2kRu8mK_O5Yf4z6c- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: Samples and looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:37:06 +0000 (UTC) hound dog was written by lieber and stoller by substituting the word "hound= dog" for the original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the big mama tho= rton original. otherwise, the chords, melody, arrangement and majority of = the rest of the words are as she wrote it. this is an acknowledged part of= music lore, just as pat boone made a whole career out of re-recording trac= ks from "race records" of the time and releasing them weeks after their ori= ginal release to thunderous approval on the "white charts." to gloss over = this unfortunate chapter of music history by attempting to rewrite it is di= sgraceful. time --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky wrote: > From: Charles Zwicky > Subject: Re: Samples and looping > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM >=20 >=20 > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller who > also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis heard that > and loved it. He re-recorded it.=A0 Lieber and Stoller > still got their royalties. :) >=20 > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he believes > the law should say -- the composer gets paid by whoever > commissioned the work and after that it's fair game. So, in > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with Big Mama > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, Elvis owes > nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the > positions, I apologize.) > >=20 > > Mark >=20 >=20 > -- ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 15:37:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 535BA3BE7F; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251473833; bh=2xkvE4PtRFnw35iq9p8UcfGsjPtjfGbi2gr+rma+7T0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ooxdK92yui+KIdgCxXeDu+BZE2cPWTBvv0kCYNH3wcfq00vrAuK7fCC3PLYt66QAjhTNj9jBsBUXqU3ajkg4jatAYaD5t/Po5g0YawCCQ+Ef0x12+iKZnZyr9GNqbZ1FceKF0NUE7lYU049eHRBA6K8gnmeghTyfQofOpFZ9r8Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=otVQGomJgqSvcdYq89RQYbHYGu3baiH4ZFArAkmpw/K5uUpOAw0YWi8vjjgUJZgzZTdANIgXKgW+diHMRt/zd1bEjZSxv54X7mVMuwFJ+vd18dhzdY4NMDfKYriTuqQrY7fD6kOt0d4amrdIktHNV+FtgVvf2zK78g4Xw2944eE=; Message-ID: <647814.37643.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dCMqYkwVM1ml4ffWFvi1q5QJB.4iWd3rqvyadFOFQ4sHMKGcUMBZrykXJsnMuRi8zUrG.o1scYwMNpg2PXKZnAX6NYFzlM3K0tbusMkbaSORNmunFV1HEuktSD1gsCGiA9.rEikjg0MeDVSLXGPtxZiao1TCAOi2Oe_k2EKVXnrlzhI1KMPW3yZxEUyuZtkMwdaVSmqXbUmWUCooGMUgyFlADgY6Vn1Huj2yyfON1tCH0WnqopBVbjBFNq8_YOghh_q2jrE2gKMtG3VZ93MhBXmwO.1ttTto4FjhNOLtfZtS61fEMs9uv_bybmnL2QVRHK05CHtirxF4AbvzQsmg8.7yARtQ6nF8kOT7H7E- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: Samples and looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:37:14 +0000 (UTC) hound dog was written by lieber and stoller by substituting the word "hound= dog" for the original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the big mama tho= rton original. otherwise, the chords, melody, arrangement and majority of = the rest of the words are as she wrote it. this is an acknowledged part of= music lore, just as pat boone made a whole career out of re-recording trac= ks from "race records" of the time and releasing them weeks after their ori= ginal release to thunderous approval on the "white charts." to gloss over = this unfortunate chapter of music history by attempting to rewrite it is di= sgraceful. time --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky wrote: > From: Charles Zwicky > Subject: Re: Samples and looping > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM >=20 >=20 > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller who > also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis heard that > and loved it. He re-recorded it.=A0 Lieber and Stoller > still got their royalties. :) >=20 > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he believes > the law should say -- the composer gets paid by whoever > commissioned the work and after that it's fair game. So, in > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with Big Mama > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, Elvis owes > nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the > positions, I apologize.) > >=20 > > Mark >=20 >=20 > -- ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 16:10:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A56373BE7C; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RBqLZjYtE9qLcxUMXq56YCxc9Uryn9L9WBnkAqLur5XjSRJJpMYWG816UkUE0gzI; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <647814.37643.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <647814.37643.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:09:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Samples and looping Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-960646706==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79bf3212eb1d8e7a4916db584713518ba4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:10:23 +0000 (UTC) --============_-960646706==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Well, well, well..! There's a straw man argument wrapped in an ad homenim attack... nobody is 'rewriting music history' or 'glossing over' anything... Jerry Lieber told me what I wrote here (on this very small mailing list) after dinner one day. I'm sure that your 'music lore' account has some truth to it, but I wasn't there so I can't say for sure. >hound dog was written by lieber and stoller by substituting the word >"hound dog" for the original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the >big mama thorton original. otherwise, the chords, melody, >arrangement and majority of the rest of the words are as she wrote >it. this is an acknowledged part of music lore, just as pat boone >made a whole career out of re-recording tracks from "race records" >of the time and releasing them weeks after their original release to >thunderous approval on the "white charts." to gloss over this >unfortunate chapter of music history by attempting to rewrite it is >disgraceful. > >time > >--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> From: Charles Zwicky >> Subject: Re: Samples and looping >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM >> >> >> Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller who >> also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis heard that >> and loved it. He re-recorded it. Lieber and Stoller >> still got their royalties. :) >> >> > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects >> composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he believes >> the law should say -- the composer gets paid by whoever >> commissioned the work and after that it's fair game. So, in >> the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with Big Mama >> Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, Elvis owes >> nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the >> positions, I apologize.) >> > >> > Mark >> >> >> -- ... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-960646706==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Samples and looping
    Well, well, well..!  There's a straw man argument wrapped in an ad homenim attack... nobody is 'rewriting music history' or 'glossing over' anything... Jerry Lieber told me what I wrote here (on this very small mailing list) after dinner one day.
    I'm sure that your 'music lore' account has some truth to it, but I wasn't there so I can't say for sure.

    hound dog was written by lieber and stoller by substituting the word "hound dog" for the original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the big mama thorton original.  otherwise, the chords, melody, arrangement and majority of the rest of the words are as she wrote it.  this is an acknowledged part of music lore, just as pat boone made a whole career out of re-recording tracks from "race records" of the time and releasing them weeks after their original release to thunderous approval on the "white charts."  to gloss over this unfortunate chapter of music history by attempting to rewrite it is disgraceful.

    time

    --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

    > From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
    > Subject: Re: Samples and looping
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM
    >
    >
    > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller who
    > also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis heard that
    > and loved it. He re-recorded it.  Lieber and Stoller
    > still got their royalties. :)
    >
    > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects
    > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he believes
    > the law should say -- the composer gets paid by whoever
    > commissioned the work and after that it's fair game. So, in
    > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with Big Mama
    > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, Elvis owes
    > nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the
    > positions, I apologize.)
    > >
    > > Mark
    >
    >
    > -- ...
    > http://www.zmix.net
    >
    >


    --
    ...
    http://www.zmix.net
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      From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 16:38:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 700B03BE77; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <66f9cc1e0908280303w39754017h83c04bfd7a337a44@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: FX Tempo: Tapping vs. Sync to Loop Tempo Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:37:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908280303w39754017h83c04bfd7a337a44@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acon+XXkvqufvk2RS2eNq6pnCriBQgAAIP/g Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:38:05 +0000 (UTC) I use both, a non synced effects processor (line 6 m13) and one that is always synced to my LP-1 (TC fireworx), I like being able to use delay for dub effects on the fly so having tap tempo is essential for that. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 17:04:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88C063BE75; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251479074; bh=yjiu05KgpaLdD9ZT3B2fmxShxbX4JK3LygMgWS6ZZTY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iOR9Xd7XSqM0x8H41gAznl8ObeziyGjeRHenUQoPSqVtJc0Q30b1LC0A0UFcZDbP+iBft1dvPLUJHxGiXQnGmb8wFY75p+kS27UlhkUMDKXdHxyMh9TqAmNSLlHEdlpvllTWKRob6y/SSl05JAWE/4rJcIl54YL9xrOBp0emKoA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RgBalS97EcAUP6v/rDju82/ICQtJAeVIFwGy7KYhidUDzVLDZq9AfgeN8zqbXS5E/0ECAR30dE0H8kFAiCkk6w72lOyWgSYfxzDxAANECDDvx/hue78+MbTYrED18LtQepcMvCDkwZedPj9atN5L26YsvZwcK8JUgsrI7t1EjRU=; Message-ID: <795060.82487.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nQaqlEQVM1ncPpR61ujazW9eeti0no91rToFMzyG38ex3rxn.kRpI.LPGj3A76oEwua4y2azfzDrvSdO1hlG1RAPNgau2SmUGkGqXm7XFFG0VP0MswZXwVnB910WDtBRVhNsI2N2eBY9uY8NjqT_p5l93BNOzBp7Z2E_YsJ52lsMphctXlGEjmcsoCaRWfMGLBuSntoz8tGTwzgQA8yeSGbnxwK4hVcZaAyCyGQG28MQiWjRpBuyy0MXkOpW_mtw.CCyaLDwuAcyKnAywFd0WTonAi3ymnofG1.aYqGjF1GT1KVp2B4k7o4.EUFu7zmIy1MT0U0oC73taKyT6z2__vUKsKQK81Aqp29XBXDBhki4ADA- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:04:34 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: Samples and looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:04:35 +0000 (UTC) so true, that it is a straw man argument. of course, lieber had no reason = to remember it any differently, i'm sure, since lieber/stoller have success= fully sued for copyright infringement more than any other songwriting team.= and actually, elvis fell in love with a completely different version of t= he song than the original. time > Re: Samples and looping=20 > Well, well, well..!=A0 There's a straw man > argument wrapped in > an ad homenim attack... nobody is 'rewriting music > history' or > 'glossing over' anything... Jerry Lieber told me > what I wrote here (on > this very small mailing list) after dinner one > day. > I'm sure that your 'music lore' account > has some truth to it, but > I wasn't there so I can't say for sure. >=20 >=20 > hound dog was written by > lieber and > stoller by substituting the word "hound dog" for > the > original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the > big mama > thorton original.=A0 otherwise, the chords, melody, > arrangement and > majority of the rest of the words are as she wrote > it.=A0 this is > an acknowledged part of music lore, just as pat boone made > a whole > career out of re-recording tracks from "race > records" of the > time and releasing them weeks after their original release > to > thunderous approval on the "white charts."=A0 > to gloss > over this unfortunate chapter of music history by > attempting to > rewrite it is disgraceful. >=20 >=20 >=20 > time >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky > > wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > > From: Charles Zwicky >=20 > > Subject: Re: Samples and looping >=20 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller > who >=20 > > also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis > heard that >=20 > > and loved it. He re-recorded it.=A0 Lieber and > Stoller >=20 > > still got their royalties. :) >=20 > > >=20 > > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects >=20 > > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he > believes >=20 > > the law should say -- the composer gets paid by > whoever >=20 > > commissioned the work and after that it's fair > game. So, in >=20 > > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with > Big Mama >=20 > > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, > Elvis owes >=20 > > nothing for using the song. (If I've > mischaracterized the >=20 > > positions, I apologize.) >=20 > > > >=20 > > > Mark >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > -- ... >=20 > > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =20 > ... >=20 > http://www.zmix.net > =20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 17:09:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 448F73BE7E; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: massimo , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:09:41 -0500 Subject: RE: moebius and midi macro Thread-Topic: moebius and midi macro Thread-Index: AconzEa12P/N02zDQpaCI1kc5i/PSAANVYHA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFEAA46ABA@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <4A97B529.1080603@het.it> In-Reply-To: <4A97B529.1080603@het.it> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:09:48 +0000 (UTC) > For example: i'd like to rise up one or two tones my loop with a single=20 > shot and not by half tones at time You would have to use scripts for this. In this case you don't have to use multiple commands, you use one comnand with an "argument": !name Pitch Up One Tone PitchShift 2 The argument to the PitchShift and RateShift functions is a positive or negative number indicating the number of semi-tones to shift up or down. If you have further questions on scripting, please consider joining the Mobius Yahoo group at groups.yahoo.com/group/zonemobius. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 17:40:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57F663BE8A; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=V2PEVa/gME8PlX3tJrbsF8WEVxrfFgvDFPbQqBnBVlgEG4zTFLmKu/YR2HZle42w; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <795060.82487.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <795060.82487.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:40:02 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Samples and looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec794f874976763b3c755097191ee6570f2d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Which version did Elvis fall in love with? >so true, that it is a straw man argument. of course, lieber had no >reason to remember it any differently, i'm sure, since >lieber/stoller have successfully sued for copyright infringement >more than any other songwriting team. and actually, elvis fell in >love with a completely different version of the song than the >original. > >time > >> Re: Samples and looping >> Well, well, well..! There's a straw man >> argument wrapped in >> an ad homenim attack... nobody is 'rewriting music >> history' or >> 'glossing over' anything... Jerry Lieber told me >> what I wrote here (on >> this very small mailing list) after dinner one >> day. >> I'm sure that your 'music lore' account >> has some truth to it, but >> I wasn't there so I can't say for sure. >> >> >> hound dog was written by >> lieber and >> stoller by substituting the word "hound dog" for >> the >> original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the >> big mama >> thorton original. otherwise, the chords, melody, >> arrangement and >> majority of the rest of the words are as she wrote >> it. this is >> an acknowledged part of music lore, just as pat boone made >> a whole >> career out of re-recording tracks from "race >> records" of the >> time and releasing them weeks after their original release >> to >> thunderous approval on the "white charts." >> to gloss >> over this unfortunate chapter of music history by >> attempting to >> rewrite it is disgraceful. >> >> >> >> time >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > From: Charles Zwicky >> >> > Subject: Re: Samples and looping >> >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller >> who >> >> > also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis >> heard that >> >> > and loved it. He re-recorded it. Lieber and >> Stoller >> >> > still got their royalties. :) >> >> > >> >> > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects >> >> > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he >> believes >> >> > the law should say -- the composer gets paid by >> whoever >> >> > commissioned the work and after that it's fair >> game. So, in >> >> > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with >> Big Mama >> >> > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, >> Elvis owes >> >> > nothing for using the song. (If I've >> mischaracterized the >> >> > positions, I apologize.) >> >> > > >> >> > > Mark >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- ... >> >> > http://www.zmix.net >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ... >> >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 19:48:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F9663BE72; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 447 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:48:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=h44saFbJAYD+B8+huQymBZAy1VTh/drKi3YRKUusoB4=; b=bXUWDWj2AtI85V+iwz7GjMqHV7FC2Xaj14YJCWfA/yj+xydpnA7I3+yYBJYVgMx5Ff t9YGS1cXmki2YT3roZKmvPjNNrZywaoUg0OC1AEMHpwmeAAUE/0b46sq21AoBDzuF9l7 FC1lo9E5k/yv8N6v/B9tFZmq30iGP2WeIZYBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=UVVGniY3KuVMPmVDVBRiQmv5G5VnTvDLf7gJntoq56lh12UCSIo1aoT9oCLnsmztcF JC9oe/CsaM6phvwnBTaFa5RYvYyjlgvUlL3wHzGg2/znVDagSg8xDFeWzRQgR3/im0pv DttT8x3nmdZUA7boUqk3VGhdWVSJN7DCU6kuA= Message-Id: <23E3C3C9-5A85-4A60-B3E2-6910EB12E18C@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-99-450841608 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: HELP for youtube.com/livelooping needed! Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:41:04 -0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:48:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-99-450841608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LiveLoopers, I started 10 month ago to search on youtube what people were looping really, outside of this great community. I found a lot with "livelooping" and "live looping", then a similar amount with other searches. I started to gather them in a playlist of mine and then I set up http://youtube.com/livelooping to make them neutrally available and in several playlists, according to technique, instrument... with some explanations... not very logical, rather guided by what I found... I intended to only promote this page here when: - its complete in the sense that all important artists are present - youtube fixes the bug with the random sequence of the playlists - livelooping.org is more evolved and includes the playlists and single videos into texts ...but since this all takes time and there are many more videos, I end up spending to much time on youtube, instead of working on the livelooping theory, the LOOP 5 plugin and the next Echoplex... so, if you would like to help me and hopefully all of us, you can, on several levels: - have look and tell me if you know of more videos to add (link + apropriate Playlist) - partner with me to work directly on the page, and add your ideas yourself - create a similar collection in some other channel - work on the forums of those places and suggest site features to allow such collections I occupied xxx.com/livelooping only to avoid that a single musician abuses it for his own music, but I gladly pass them on to someone who cares in the sense of the community! thank you Matthias --Apple-Mail-99-450841608 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I = started to gather them in a playlist of mine and then I set = up http://youtube.com/livelooping=  to make them neutrally available and in several playlists, = according to technique, instrument... with some explanations... not very = logical, rather guided by what I found...

    I = intended to only promote this page here when:
    - its complete = in the sense that all important artists are present
    - youtube = fixes the bug with the random sequence of the = playlists 
    - livelooping.org is more evolved and includes = the playlists and single videos into texts
    ...but since this = all takes time and there are many more videos, I end up spending to much = time on youtube, instead of working on the livelooping theory, the LOOP = 5 plugin and the next Echoplex...

    so, if you = would like to help me and hopefully all of us, you can, on several = levels:

    - have look and tell me if you know of = more videos to add (link + apropriate Playlist)
    - partner with = me to work directly on the page, and add your ideas yourself
    - = create a similar collection in some other channel
    - work on = the forums of those places and suggest site features to allow such = collections

    I occupied xxx.com/livelooping only = to avoid that a single musician abuses it for his own music, but I = gladly pass them on to someone who cares in the sense of the = community!

    thank = you 
    Matthias
    = --Apple-Mail-99-450841608-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 20:01:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C00E93BE78; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TCK76J9pPLDij9Zjcm9E+eoaT/tE3RYVvPC84szY9xs=; b=YTgAJImVcghaSx3Fvu4QF3uevtKRFfXgiBMtzcSKEUruQ0Y/C/eOgDE6v81tsyILnr 4k9mDDNWuRaYs775a8MA2nNmseO0SPNXAzIRhWYWaLTB/JivyRDlwXw8Iw/MbJ+6MWic 3JQeT1SXe2doXNHzy547PY9YnM+0C56Yanm/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gx64aMgt/eqqSPL4Xyct9EaTkYBKNbDlroyWFIgCNqm2y6kom5zdEf5V05w0dbWEJX diSA93Lw77bThtYEOL8jtDCnSvSczA/HKJJalm+GkXO+YtxHNJcnDGz/l3z1S1VPB09M kg/7GcARH1Hq86if+jduW1dCnqd3QkO2YPQO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <795060.82487.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:01:39 +0400 Message-ID: <20aeede50908281301x340b837dxf4751eaf0bae1d54@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747bf2cfcfe09047239265e Resent-Message-ID: <6bDoU.A.Ns.leDmKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:01:41 +0000 (UTC) --00151747bf2cfcfe09047239265e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "in Louigi's world, Elvis owes nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the positions, I apologize.)" Yeah, that's correct. I would say that paying willingly is fine but you shouldn't be obliged. On the other hand, guys, there is an interesting thing which happens. If you are not obliged, psychologically you would tend more to want to thank people who contributed. Eventually people get used to contributing and in the long run it once again becomes a certain moral obligation. It is an inevitable process. And such moral norms eventually may end up reflected in law (though I believe today law is way too tiresome and tries to control every aspect of life which is not that good). So I would say this - paying or crediting or somehow thanking the authors is good. It is part of human nature. But in my opinion it should not be governed by law. It should be governed more by common ethics and at the same time be a movement of a kind heart. *In that case when you are creatively building something on top of someone else's material, you feel yourself part of a community to which you are contributing and the achievements of which you are using in your work*, rather than an individual who "steals" someone else's ideas for his own benefit. I hope I am not too philosophizing %) Louigi. --00151747bf2cfcfe09047239265e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "in Louigi's world, Elvis owes nothing for using the song. (If I&= #39;ve mischaracterized the positions, I apologize.)"

    Yeah, tha= t's correct. I would say that paying willingly is fine but you shouldn&= #39;t be obliged.

    On the other hand, guys, there is an interesting thing which happens. I= f you are not obliged, psychologically you would
    tend more to want to th= ank people who contributed. Eventually people get used to contributing and = in the long run it once
    again becomes a certain moral obligation. It is an inevitable process. And = such moral norms eventually may end up reflected in law (though I believetoday law is way too tiresome and tries to control every aspect of life w= hich is not that good).

    So I would say this - paying or crediting or somehow thanking the autho= rs is good. It is part of human nature. But in my
    opinion it should not= be governed by law. It should be governed more by common ethics and at the= same time be a movement
    of a kind heart. In that case when you are creatively building something= on top of someone else's material, you feel yourself
    part of a comm= unity to which you are contributing and the achievements of which you are u= sing in your work    , rather than an
    individual who "steals" someone else's ideas for his own bene= fit.

    I hope I am not too philosophizing %)

    Louigi.
    --00151747bf2cfcfe09047239265e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 28 23:32:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2EA83BE79; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 344 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:32:04 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Id/4oyuV9pW02vOmCPhUyzMB1OZ5S07KJEBtmIswzVY=; b=lqapVk5wDyZpg21MUqD/a5i03G/b6OyGzoxcMImvXP/VWJMvR6+31GTdLAQ8tbpzVG piUZmluU1LLEDgPag5ji99B/tADEIXlzviI2yYRaPq4Vjj3aEv4u8Ad2tuXUQsLb6fdb rpqOX9D0SRFQBO965TXPJxJogDv7nbgrjiN/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=qY2NqrorQbg90nP8Jwq5U3eVDTUvPsHgVnhtbPpnywWn1USsG3ALb+LMINvS8wVaqj j/Rv1CUN8tkIBWy9c2T+EQVxWmSeyCJ1GicTUvQn2JGY2ZQXFI2TXiFj9a1x2VV1fdRe X4VMoSm0ci4iA3mbuXM8LcZn9h+73F7HUP+hU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908281301x340b837dxf4751eaf0bae1d54@mail.gmail.com> References: <795060.82487.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20aeede50908281301x340b837dxf4751eaf0bae1d54@mail.gmail.com> From: Nick Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:25:59 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f5a0b63e368f28c9 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Samples and looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:32:04 +0000 (UTC) I have read most of this thread and it's a really interesting discussion. I recently did a university paper for my (software engineering) ethics class on the legality and ethicality of sampling. I apologize in advance if someone said this already, but I didn't notice it while reading over things: I'd just like to point out that the original copyright clause, "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries." does not mention protecting profitability at all. It's for creativity, and in that respect I see free sampling as the ultimate expression of this ideal, where copyright's place is merely to prevent song theft (releasing someone else's song as your own). On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > > "in Louigi's world, Elvis owes nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the positions, I apologize.)" > > Yeah, that's correct. I would say that paying willingly is fine but you shouldn't be obliged. > > On the other hand, guys, there is an interesting thing which happens. If you are not obliged, psychologically you would > tend more to want to thank people who contributed. Eventually people get used to contributing and in the long run it once > again becomes a certain moral obligation. It is an inevitable process. And such moral norms eventually may end up reflected in law (though I believe > today law is way too tiresome and tries to control every aspect of life which is not that good). > > So I would say this - paying or crediting or somehow thanking the authors is good. It is part of human nature. But in my > opinion it should not be governed by law. It should be governed more by common ethics and at the same time be a movement > of a kind heart. In that case when you are creatively building something on top of someone else's material, you feel yourself > part of a community to which you are contributing and the achievements of which you are using in your work, rather than an > individual who "steals" someone else's ideas for his own benefit. > > I hope I am not too philosophizing %) > > Louigi. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 00:25:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E63D3BE77; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251505541; bh=isrkOTNnHRwpJwlR+9VcN3cIYposPEspD0/fbEufg78=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XSbpTXJkVY3BPBb+gep8g3d9PMlNil3hdtav+5H8kS8jlzl26CEiLhepMMmLEJQ1WF+yYgRVshUini81RRwG47BJrAwqs+MxOJ9a1dIbAQOfNPiVv4pO8kfgDvDlsWA7olUVcEgIdUH4RY9vL4H15rl39j9G0loCrm+LbbX4gpg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QEbW4tNgkTqXWOoj9Uz/0KtocR8Ij2vZLnCaFDDOIJpvafGFBbdtqxd27haW4zGl4iehcZtBfPFdje8YXhJhqEjeKoYw1UwFu/fbVLWaVTqE/1mkngSin3V0txxZviin5FK1LdoTDPW7CDciZRFtL7used6qk56QT77g/AUHcsY=; Message-ID: <789640.44702.qm@web65601.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ilh6HOQVM1nxBoF.P01Rx2TqmTSJp.cTX8gqCyKJWEZVknOVjeZ3jvvuSohW_KXV_FJNS1q.XxaNE4c5pG6f38J_gT.w6zxQkUZ9qOD5OMV5k4ysa8HDZcUAEkWF2D1ZLbzfQWymcEA_I1QIu8RqSKJYxWdmm0AyjeA5sIxYmCIJ9G2CQcQeEU6Xph6Vyb16xCRJ5qu_b.kSw3MGdlsENBqhpvmSWDsCEJWRYYzkT3a7qYJsNSvEJqqP2w4W.vSyR7j9wtr1KJrufzEqSit7DZ83kAYd1Kp6NAtZKPcbnn_Hhq0uCDoFcLYX2XCYPnb.wtQbSc6XF8M- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: Samples and looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:25:46 +0000 (UTC) he fell in love with frddie bell and the bellboys' vegas version of the son= g. > Which version did Elvis fall in love > with? >=20 >=20 > >so true, that it is a straw man argument.=A0 of > course, lieber had no=20 > >reason to remember it any differently, i'm sure, since >=20 > >lieber/stoller have successfully sued for copyright > infringement=20 > >more than any other songwriting team.=A0 and > actually, elvis fell in=20 > >love with a completely different version of the song > than the=20 > >original. > > > >time > > > >>=A0 Re: Samples and looping > >>=A0 Well, well, well..!=A0 There's a straw > man > >>=A0 argument wrapped in > >>=A0 an ad homenim attack... nobody is 'rewriting > music > >>=A0 history' or > >>=A0 'glossing over' anything... Jerry Lieber > told me > >>=A0 what I wrote here (on > >>=A0 this very small mailing list) after dinner > one > >>=A0 day. > >>=A0 I'm sure that your 'music lore' account > >>=A0 has some truth to it, but > >>=A0 I wasn't there so I can't say for sure. > >> > >> > >>=A0 hound dog was written by > >>=A0 lieber and > >>=A0 stoller by substituting the word "hound dog" > for > >>=A0 the > >>=A0 original "m-----f-----" which is what was in > the > >>=A0 big mama > >>=A0 thorton original.=A0 otherwise, the > chords, melody, > >>=A0 arrangement and > >>=A0 majority of the rest of the words are as she > wrote > >>=A0 it.=A0 this is > >>=A0 an acknowledged part of music lore, just as > pat boone made > >>=A0 a whole > >>=A0 career out of re-recording tracks from > "race > >>=A0 records" of the > >>=A0 time and releasing them weeks after their > original release > >>=A0 to > >>=A0 thunderous approval on the "white charts."=20 > >>=A0 to gloss > >>=A0 over this unfortunate chapter of music > history by > >>=A0 attempting to > >>=A0 rewrite it is disgraceful. > >> > >> > >> > >>=A0 time > >> > >> > >> > >>=A0 --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky > >>=A0 > >>=A0 wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>=A0 > From: Charles Zwicky > >> > >>=A0 > Subject: Re: Samples and looping > >> > >>=A0 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> > >>=A0 > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 > AM > >> > >>=A0 > > >> > >>=A0 > > >> > >>=A0 > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber > and Mike Stoller > >>=A0 who > >> > >>=A0 > also produced Big Mama Thornton's > record. Elvis > >>=A0 heard that > >> > >>=A0 > and loved it. He re-recorded it.=A0 > Lieber and > >>=A0 Stoller > >> > >>=A0 > still got their royalties. :) > >> > >>=A0 > > >> > >>=A0 > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., > the law protects > >> > >>=A0 > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing > about what he > >>=A0 believes > >> > >>=A0 > the law should say -- the composer gets > paid by > >>=A0 whoever > >> > >>=A0 > commissioned the work and after that > it's fair > >>=A0 game. So, in > >> > >>=A0 > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had > a deal with > >>=A0 Big Mama > >> > >>=A0 > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's > world, > >>=A0 Elvis owes > >> > >>=A0 > nothing for using the song. (If I've > >>=A0 mischaracterized the > >> > >>=A0 > positions, I apologize.) > >> > >>=A0 > > > >> > >>=A0 > > Mark > >> > >>=A0 > > >> > >>=A0 > > >> > >>=A0 > -- ... > >> > >>=A0 > http://www.zmix.net > >> > >>=A0 > > >> > >>=A0 > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>=A0 -- > >>=20 > >>=A0 ... > >> > >>=A0 http://www.zmix.net > >>=20 > >> >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 00:27:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AEC23BE7E; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251505655; bh=ZJh3gr/Sx1C0azfrTaVFoQ00/H1w/xiyobN/Bo3jPrw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1n6ySB+0RFoo8HhziK+q0iVuahPgJMJr5C7Bxj2xr0zmxSLKCzUS4tqHhy+sfZjtnkymQdQQL0zxjvmElLZoE9rgkGvZK9aVDutZvAMdSlI+U7HNFx9Tdw3UnZyZt8a7VGy3RKsNuNTD7LCmm4JasoLlnA7TpcrGGy2eVLLFNVw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y62midwQDSU3y2YoARl5dIkCUl8vTD5Vd4naC7OxJfKhuxA99aPmNJ0rqPuPBHfG6nntd54JGk1j65ZkYPdgK6kIaoDhgzrxu43rSumXNJzahKQIwJihzD1w/+v9FdkeTjXGgUjlqDL7gtEW3QAz/Xo2CR8/b7gwv5jpEDRNpM4=; Message-ID: <580358.24599.qm@web65607.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pncTHPYVM1kI05umtXE9K_onVXCvbppMf5sWAMFG5nsklvlPjvk2BfwW73tEyjJFct6Dvr97FpkBf2UpntL3Lvga7PCP4JKQpbUqYK8JeEAjs87dfQFWFojjI6sWqWx_F5iWQINLQ3X8ErncAsEvmP7XZASVQqz4Ozuqpx16b0v_0ZqrZ2vHvvMJZKgLD8DzmN9CMq5D5gD88CCljeoYmYI8Ag8lh.IoLbA9CeOXKGjDOlPzaMTFF41.bpt7B1ZfY6.nyxKaK_j0V97hzqdWjzzYXmk9e3KY.HqSw5JThlxgzOIRMsIEitTgD4coSaZ6d9yi8fFv X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:27:35 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: Samples and looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908281301x340b837dxf4751eaf0bae1d54@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <66qYMD.A.uuE.3XHmKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:27:36 +0000 (UTC) is this somewhat akin to the picasso quote that "talent is the ability to steal, and genius is the ability to steal unnoticed"? time > "in Louigi's world, Elvis owes > nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized > the positions, I apologize.)" > > Yeah, that's correct. I would say that paying willingly > is fine but you shouldn't be obliged. > > > On the other hand, guys, there is an interesting thing > which happens. If you are not obliged, psychologically you > would > tend more to want to thank people who contributed. > Eventually people get used to contributing and in the long > run it once > > again becomes a certain moral obligation. It is an > inevitable process. And such moral norms eventually may end > up reflected in law (though I believe > today law is way too tiresome and tries to control every > aspect of life which is not that good). > > > So I would say this - paying or crediting or somehow > thanking the authors is good. It is part of human nature. > But in my > opinion it should not be governed by law. It should be > governed more by common ethics and at the same time be a > movement > > of a kind heart. In that case when you are creatively > building something on top of someone else's material, > you feel yourself > part of a community to which you are contributing and the > achievements of which you are using in your work, rather > than an > > individual who "steals" someone else's ideas > for his own benefit. > > I hope I am not too philosophizing %) > > Louigi. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 01:01:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB12D3BE73; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 01:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1251507681; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ud5SyUAFlnnMOYWAtQnqp/C6K7E=; b=D5KFW4CEla/mZy2643xieYZHUsFF2s7IeyhmLnDi+ENmzdfeo0dVDZklUHsG0fDq zZAQMgKe/bZ8+wz6cO4Ag0WRB5qIy6wHDOVNydGTXb3tFUnWixBWS2wfWG3jv2zd; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=ohalYyRiaRICWfA9lwcA:9 a=Jhl_bpR7K1gCH6miqqkA:7 a=heeo2AjwrX95PxEvLOO_-M0YTxIA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801ca2844$3932d400$bd842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <580358.24599.qm@web65607.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:01:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 01:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Or one or all of these found around the web Good composers borrow. Great composers steal. Igor Stravinsky A good composer does not imitate; he steals. Igor Stravinsky Lesser artists borrow, great artists steal. Igor Stravinsky :) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim echols" To: Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Samples and looping > > is this somewhat akin to the picasso quote that "talent is the ability to > steal, and genius is the ability to steal unnoticed"? > > time > >> "in Louigi's world, Elvis owes >> nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized >> the positions, I apologize.)" >> >> Yeah, that's correct. I would say that paying willingly >> is fine but you shouldn't be obliged. >> >> >> On the other hand, guys, there is an interesting thing >> which happens. If you are not obliged, psychologically you >> would >> tend more to want to thank people who contributed. >> Eventually people get used to contributing and in the long >> run it once >> >> again becomes a certain moral obligation. It is an >> inevitable process. And such moral norms eventually may end >> up reflected in law (though I believe >> today law is way too tiresome and tries to control every >> aspect of life which is not that good). >> >> >> So I would say this - paying or crediting or somehow >> thanking the authors is good. It is part of human nature. >> But in my >> opinion it should not be governed by law. It should be >> governed more by common ethics and at the same time be a >> movement >> >> of a kind heart. In that case when you are creatively >> building something on top of someone else's material, >> you feel yourself >> part of a community to which you are contributing and the >> achievements of which you are using in your work, rather >> than an >> >> individual who "steals" someone else's ideas >> for his own benefit. >> >> I hope I am not too philosophizing %) >> >> Louigi. >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 07:59:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4E83BE72; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:58:58 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090829075858.274300@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090827222010.47390@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Simple Multiple Loop Sampling Tool for Mac? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+pLqV4VBepaidx3J0OAEb4BWuvu/lY6xuh8gjzDo d8tdYbJfahbI0Epb0+9aL14VMpWfB2WU/OBQ== X-GMX-UID: 8+2+Yg/MLi50MIE/kWpp4adrZml1ZNjF X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys thank you for the links I will check them out. Aaron, I thought FlyLoop was based on Win not Mac? The on-the-fly assignment of Musolomo seems interesting. I wouldn't actually miss feedback thanks Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 08:15:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B4773BE75; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:15:16 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090829081516.274340@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Ultrabeat live pattern drum sequencing in Logic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Bg4QOg7+By4wPOscjRW1q4X4uObMhJXrVzgnGWO 0Hlbh5i3n1LDO82wpYo2H6wMAVSQCEHWZFXg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ptWte18DbUk7Lp8oyWknobFsZ2hlN4qM X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Resent-Message-ID: <2U0N9.A.dMC.YOOmKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > I have used the equivalent to "Continuous > Sampler Style Mode" in Ableton Live and I tend to use it more > regularly with UltraBeat live pattern drum sequencing in Logic. Can you tell a bit more about your approach? I love using Ultrabeat but I haven't looked into the potential in live looping context. OK, this is quite weird, but could you theoretically prepare samples for UltraBeat, then record new samples on the fly, overwriting the old ones? best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 08:15:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1645C3BE7E; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:15:44 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20aeede50908280531y6b80d511uc5bef7318c79534b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090829081544.274310@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <190457.10355.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <20aeede50908280531y6b80d511uc5bef7318c79534b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: L.Angulo -Antwerp vid part 2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19CpYspT2NC2T8sQ41bc+mZINScwxGFLHjl1g0/ar 72fnkb/XBpGtvkSPr/uSioPmVC2+IRDY5Suw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: gpmtIkwBZDIrL8cogWc22Kd5emhmY8HR X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:15:46 +0000 (UTC) loved the guitar playing... thanks, man! :-) Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 09:54:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24F343BE78; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PQrY9HY19gwlMbwb22n+BT5hWxn5AcL9M8m/9cA7eWM=; b=dBW8to1upYULLFAeymCIMrwO2EwX7RByNjcJ2ouCt8dlrkuyIIKA3SCOQAVR+VyLSs TSDfQLyp9C5l62oCiNPxg6u86EEfw2Iiywxm8hDZC/zO3mn8wbG9esZyQHIPz7PNqGVH LL6UXNvXHHq4jb6EQr14Y8lv2SrTcyGERspdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B3hjfVDOwMFgAWNzLdrN0E9WexEtG/f/BS30dOgFeI0uLm9bAFKsEdvYm2uNHx08wf FVEWTCj73iRFC9W2I9VHhNy3nAf25dWTtb7vprCKnhHLFoMp8ED7gXJIMHZv4Q/z/gq+ UgliUXXXyfdlM7Grb4ONUgpUlr7fKSwQa63As= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090829081516.274340@gmx.net> References: <20090829081516.274340@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:54:01 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908290254j5859a990s1ec19c5f62db9fab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ultrabeat live pattern drum sequencing in Logic From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:54:02 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Can you tell a bit more about your approach? Not much to tell really. I simply play MIDI note that switches UltraBeat pattern. Of course you have to prepare some patterns first to keep loaded in UltraBeat. And of course you have to enable the UB's sequencer and its Pattern Mode before you start. You may load it with patterns of odd lengths for some poly rhythm fun as well. > I love using Ultrabeat but I haven't looked into the potential in live looping context. I don't use it with live looping because it feels too much of a back track situation for my taste. I use it when producing recorded music in a studio setting though. > OK, this is quite weird, but could you theoretically prepare samples for UltraBeat, then record new samples on the fly, overwriting the old ones? No. This has been a main wish of mine for almost a decade now and I have been lobbying to developers to create this kind of hybrid instrument but with no luck so far. FXpansion created GURU along a related approach but did not pick up the live feeding aspect at all. GURU only swaps samples on running sequences from a library saved on the drive. As far as I know only Expert Sleeper's Cross Fade Loop Synth is closest. With Cross FAde Loop Synth I managed to set up this http://www.perboysen.com/archives/161 and have successfully used it for jamming and recording. Oh, I almost forgot that the live looping Mac software Logelloop has a built-in plug-in called Granulaterre that does this too. Logelloop also has this cool feature that you can set up presets for the entire looper to switch between by foot pedals - and you can set the transition between presets to happen slowly, like morphing. This makes sense for continuous parameter settings, like if different track panning or pitch shifting is used. I love overdubbing a loop of twelve unison notes and then kick the pedal to glide them all into a twelve tone cluster. The most evil sound you can imagine. http://logelloop.logellou.com/en/Home.html Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 10:04:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0CBA3BE77; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eUA9KbqQ41jyxUGxeZOxtBFqgmEm9Md6VPefJJtbjAA=; b=fR7MjlUhn98gscX0jZOuCVNMyC1mie2HFZnYD9plMxJabjSBRuS4jqbBxmi3F1gddX /qYFTBYy+wNV4BoJyCvyZFkIQ05MVsl1bKBdOc40rO65RWFal9cklPp4ov0hIJ8QcilA WqRrL4IKZbZ4ITYY5dDB6GS7yBqk6cbDlSiOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CsrPwloOvUpUhUrL8r6OeQmJVk0//NIL3MfMw0aoS/DH6vfHlhRj5CGM1svv7xwW8l qjTbB7YyKMng5ovEXCF0myXfMq32/lSqh/gir8j0NYunkvCgGkWuLhPHQM8INHZY8EyM apOXCHjh0Rd7n8AVtbeZd3R3Qtgwnn2MotJpY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090829075858.274300@gmx.net> References: <20090827222010.47390@gmx.net> <20090829075858.274300@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:04:58 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908290304m5874baddo9226fcc4945a37cc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Simple Multiple Loop Sampling Tool for Mac? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:04:59 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I thought FlyLoop was based on Win not Mac? Correct - it *was*. Now FlyLoop supports both these systems. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 10:29:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C85863BE72; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 254419777/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.248.132/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.248.132 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsBAF+fmEpPTviE/2dsb2JhbAAI1yqEGQWGeIN0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,296,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="254419777" Message-ID: <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:29:49 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:29:10 +0000 (UTC) one from the vaults ******* Vortex Varispeed Atmosphere B Set:- Mix 32 Mod FX LVL and Echo LVL 64 Echo 1& 2 1 Feedback 1 64 or less maybe Feedback 2 1 Resonance 1 64 ........and assign pedal to resonance 2 ******** You now have a pedal activated varispeed echo, the effect gets greater on shorter delay times. with the below described technique it works like this so, save that to both sides of a pair of registers, with Morph=64 ( which is fastest..right?) de-assign pedal to Resonance2. on reg A, Resonance2 = 1 on reg B Resonance2 = 64 now, when you engage the GrobSquareWaver you get the Kaiser effect. Or something like it, or something different, I can't be 100% sure, but you'll like it I hope. andy mark francombe wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > :-) try and pay attention, this has been discussed before. > > > Sarky booger Butler!!! > > Actually I do things like this all the time, and Andrew, I mostly do it > with your beloved Vortex!!! I have one synched to an EDP (using the Grob > Cable) but instead of sunthing the tap tempo, i trigger the morph AB.. > with wildly different settings on A and B patches I get that squarewave > mod thing.. I tell ya thats from Glitchingtonville Arizona... > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 11:28:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B9D83BE78; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:28:29 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908290254j5859a990s1ec19c5f62db9fab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090829112829.61740@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090829081516.274340@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0908290254j5859a990s1ec19c5f62db9fab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ultrabeat live pattern drum sequencing in Logic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+IidpjIGCIiYOp+T5P3aDJBgpGGlX6mkM6SNwmFl M+TJse7oIupBs2cIZavWOyoMmZmQxUitUFHA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 7ymhfyJrbmwoWNtpkzZL+AZPUzc4clFR X-FuHaFi: 0.82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing, Per Yes, probably the perfect solution would be your steppophonic here. :) Buzap. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 11:34:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB5F3BE77; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:34:10 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <23E3C3C9-5A85-4A60-B3E2-6910EB12E18C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090829113410.61720@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <23E3C3C9-5A85-4A60-B3E2-6910EB12E18C@gmail.com> Subject: Re: HELP for youtube.com/livelooping needed! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18E6UQ2Ob0EsfjyDNs5yBCXuM7WmsChsyuuN7Bk4H Mby3gatkvPLM1Rs9XumpX+jSEy6n1VQfBKwQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: BSqsfldSRkkNbd1hiGVqSCVudWkvKBOQ X-FuHaFi: 0.66 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matthias this is really great!! I have already seen most of the videos in the list - but only after hours of searching. My favorite RC-50 song has not been there, though: G.l.o.r.i.u.s. by Jonny Wright: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYvTKVTzU8 I find it much better and convincing than the other one. great contribution to the livelooping community thanks! :) best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 11:39:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5816A3BE75; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MEk4NEny9gKZ9ijuInCoNrJ+nx+Z9uo4ZyEkTDruG0E=; b=u9NoY9kU380fuQDSpengGnzznBWdMneheE3lBIDsBjCKzGp05q8tIww/+XX9pQd3T3 RPcaboFHitgkPB/Y7t7BEwwtIMoRWaBy+2qOqPBT68uQf45IXtSrvjdPf2sQOM8bAxyX bDle3lHtsW+hrAlgja0EOKDUBR0YWs9IU6xOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Tjax1Pi5lHkg4pFqZyWTQFpN5h6EaajkIAh2NglDMQzME6ZqvW04pFMOWpTaDMnJ9o VSY4h3RoinskNltO8TXtsKCIbCR/g65uTNEzIZejbI+g+BrYpsHhHQneRVEEbswtF+y/ gRvVg5LVn4fdjDDWTDLbWD8k+Da5G/Rwx3FU4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: milo.vuc@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <000801ca2844$3932d400$bd842245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <580358.24599.qm@web65607.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <000801ca2844$3932d400$bd842245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:39:35 +0300 Message-ID: <3f8d9ee60908290439n76cd8428sf7eae2d10dfd3a64@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samples and looping From: Milo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Problem is, audio sampling didn't exist when Igor Stravinsky was alive. On 8/29/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > Or one or all of these found around the web > > Good composers borrow. Great composers steal. > Igor Stravinsky > > A good composer does not imitate; he steals. > Igor Stravinsky > > Lesser artists borrow, great artists steal. > Igor Stravinsky > > :) > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 11:40:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 377833BE7F; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y3hFdIxeVCz8Y/FFTOqAl99qSmTABje3bYrUvvhKtkA=; b=kUa7IxvDIW+fTFIo1Op4XwUskjmAEJhKeAa5VZcaS78OQgNWvuIU4Ff7Dkcp8jhUb/ I7aKw6b13joulPuXxphDYMJHtJoMFtc2jSsAXWFE1fM+a4pPMGXlZnSL7DLyUBszdFbu 68CvtjQ1IGnzCZ0vj3gMGkMIRsKpst1vrIENg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IPCRsQNVZ5b+ToovaWvEaDKb6vd70ozdsqrCB8fZ5lcan2u0c8EOFc+fhzI8+fACQJ 0dY1im+pOZwfgG16Lq7HJnowkskkesDIHLQ19PxDzOAc+4BIqY9yaMPJdvsNyb9pFEM2 Hwir4FTLaWqO8U3z6yB2T2PR94R1XNsE1dzME= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090829112829.61740@gmx.net> References: <20090829081516.274340@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0908290254j5859a990s1ec19c5f62db9fab@mail.gmail.com> <20090829112829.61740@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908290440o33b5f82avf94f1b2de518f31f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ultrabeat live pattern drum sequencing in Logic From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1IRktB.A.gbD.nORmKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:40:24 +0000 (UTC) I mocked it up in Bidule.... forgot to tell. Perfectly possible with the Cross FAde Loop synth from Expert Sleepers. I agree with you that it would be really awesome if UltraBeat in Logic and Mainstage should get upgraded with real-time sampling to RAM capability! In a hopefully not too far away future it may be possible also to do what you asked for in the upcoming Pro version of Numerology 2. I have no idea if the built-in sampler will be upgraded to real-time sampling or if you will have to run Cross Fade Loop Synth AU plug-in, but the framework of step sequencers and user friendly design for advanced hands-on parameter control is already there. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com 2009/8/29 Buzap Buzap : > Thanks for sharing, Per > Yes, probably the perfect solution would be your steppophonic here. :) > > Buzap. > > -- > GRATIS f=C3=BCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 11:52:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51C943BE73; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=KoCFhEPjzzphKo+DKicE9aaef0oLJtIS7n75XJ3RtqY=; b=HWNDQXD7VChXMoA3a/YNwFd6Te7eMv7h+2IibFFHNygmebaSIdz+XKShGGVqnjYKDq lXJc/fk0Rkc2sKoIKsfhyxFxL6M0gpEQSlpr13V+3EPbVG80br1ASjuJxNsuIGYfWY43 kV1W72rqR/F83tdjgYS9phAilTj+VLHIk7ze0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=MDPQk32IlEoMdP81SKqkMtVtLN+93DtFroS3Bn/ANScZbRjeb1TgrCgr1ji63/cav+ PARlCzb+lDJOfUdZHp7wp4lBvmsbXwzGx4o707gbq7tnZJsQNV4mkulhD2SOKt1M1vpV TrZ2T+x2JX8mnJ8TSGMjQUeQ1d0B6eav8jLJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:51:51 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 969e9543adab6733 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908290451x4cd63268y83af695aeda52c8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c7a2541b0f0472466eed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:52:13 +0000 (UTC) --00504502c7a2541b0f0472466eed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just as soon as my kids stop fighting, im gonna try this.. Thanks Andy... have to admit that my vortex i full of your patches (from the good ole Vortex website of yours!!) m On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:29 PM, andy butler wrote: > one from the vaults > > ******* > Vortex Varispeed > > Atmosphere B > Set:- > Mix 32 > Mod FX LVL and Echo LVL 64 > Echo 1& 2 1 > Feedback 1 64 or less maybe > Feedback 2 1 > Resonance 1 64 > ........and assign pedal to resonance 2 > > > ******** > > You now have a pedal activated varispeed echo, > the effect gets greater on shorter delay times. > > with the below described technique it works like this > > so, save that to both sides of a pair of registers, > with Morph=64 ( which is fastest..right?) > > de-assign pedal to Resonance2. > > on reg A, > Resonance2 = 1 > on reg B > Resonance2 = 64 > > now, when you engage the GrobSquareWaver you get > the Kaiser effect. > > Or something like it, > or something different, I can't be 100% sure, > but you'll like it I hope. > > > > andy > > > > > > > > > mark francombe wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler > akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote: >> >> :-) try and pay attention, this has been discussed before. >> >> >> Sarky booger Butler!!! >> >> Actually I do things like this all the time, and Andrew, I mostly do it >> with your beloved Vortex!!! I have one synched to an EDP (using the Grob >> Cable) but instead of sunthing the tap tempo, i trigger the morph AB.. with >> wildly different settings on A and B patches I get that squarewave mod >> thing.. I tell ya thats from Glitchingtonville Arizona... >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00504502c7a2541b0f0472466eed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just as soon as my kids stop fighting, im gonna try this.. Thanks Andy... h= ave to admit that my vortex i full of your patches (from the good ole Vorte= x website of yours!!)

    m

    On Sat, Au= g 29, 2009 at 12:29 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
    one from the vaul= ts

    *******
    Vortex Varispeed

    Atmosphere B
    Set:-
    Mix =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 32
    Mod FX LVL and Echo LVL =A0 =A0 64
    Echo 1& 2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01<= br> Feedback 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064 =A0 or= less maybe
    Feedback =A02 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01
    Resonance 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 64
    ........and assign pedal to resonance 2


    ********

    You now have a pedal activated varispeed echo,
    the effect gets greater on shorter delay times.

    with the below described technique it works like this

    so, save that to both sides of a pair of registers,
    with Morph=3D64 ( which is fastest..right?)

    de-assign pedal to Resonance2.

    on reg A,
    Resonance2 =3D 1
    on reg B
    Resonance2 =3D 64

    now, when you engage the GrobSquareWaver you get
    the Kaiser effect.

    Or something like it,
    or something different, I can't be 100% sure,
    but you'll like it I hope.



    andy








    mark francombe wrote:
    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.c= o.uk>> wrote:

    =A0 =A0:-) try and pay attention, this has been discussed before.


    Sarky booger Butler!!!

    Actually I do things like this all the time, and Andrew, I mostly do it wit= h your beloved Vortex!!! I have one synched to an EDP (using the Grob Cable= ) but instead of sunthing the tap tempo, i trigger the morph AB.. with wild= ly different settings on A and B patches I get that squarewave mod thing.. = I tell ya thats from Glitchingtonville Arizona...

    --
    www.markfr= ancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com>

    http://vimeo.com/= user825094
    http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
    http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
    http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch




    --
    www.markfrancombe.com
    http://vimeo.com/user825094
    http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
    http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
    http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
    --00504502c7a2541b0f0472466eed-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 11:53:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9AB73BE8C; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mpriF0H8gsVMRF2s4LOnNfXiopC7XFxbbHyQ5qsuy+M=; b=gtAW6tPsesclo478Q6VCbVcYuJxBQkr30trOUMam6iVBC8TCMxUaTxpGuvBuSbmGY/ QyDaZVFFYJxGDxkHrThYyaoNLl2z/hrlA8GRNOkVR7IWSBABtorYLT+69PeY5uON+bSK URKkUdKT/8eRNCvgNa0wowZWDPGNx9nEZFuoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VzmzQDyB+4tnztRx9P5sJptzuBsT8Tn9SPnFGkGF7h3Vn5CiFO4ULf+ix1rTWnqE/m ZJKehQ5q9vETnlUgj+sMq1ZDPlgpvQbas/zAYsA1Itbqg4zZEMToAaR45H4ihJp2HBuT rk9BbcTC/HPaF8N5SrRKSkAjByys+KEq4+crk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090829113410.61720@gmx.net> References: <23E3C3C9-5A85-4A60-B3E2-6910EB12E18C@gmail.com> <20090829113410.61720@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:53:44 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908290453x7c62150fub566c5bec6c3ab28@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: HELP for youtube.com/livelooping needed! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Wow, that was awesome! Not only is he a great musician but he has also arranged this brilliant pop song to fit with this looping device's feature set in an optimally musical way. Amazing how much he achieves musically by very little looping (and a lot of planning). Thanks BB for posting this! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Matthias > > this is really great!! > I have already seen most of the videos in the list - but only after hours= of searching. > > My favorite RC-50 song has not been there, though: > G.l.o.r.i.u.s. by Jonny Wright: > =C2=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpaYvTKVTzU8 > I find it much better and convincing than the other one. > > great contribution to the livelooping community thanks! :) > > best regards > Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 11:55:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4189E3BE97; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=G44w/8sv/HMvKgIVKKEacECEHD+bykXigCWztsxcBAY=; b=h7aKYkuI47L++6VOb0lunbFNyx5j7OFCJrRz9SnUit0WcAZ5YJcuga3q5+Kc8IZend WMAS2X7sigagUkX6puXT2zMJ6dsQAr2WAMZWzY6ZvTqa6i4OeHK0FlXLISgnIrv0I77N WXuouG0XHE/xAR3+5LeMGxRk7q/meb8CXVbnQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jr0ysoNwVs50ZZNEynWqpruFH/X+o0ExNMYZYr6jfPokNUkj4iLcIQYE18ZmyEjqz8 B0w/X9GDlOQSxlrHaTYlgUInTayH+/xTOcYljeKOaHT4yV0QlLbXyY4Pt7Ocp1ISs7OG h+DaIBy/76eyMKsD6RJ1O+A5ze9vtjSn3DYrE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0908290451x4cd63268y83af695aeda52c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908290451x4cd63268y83af695aeda52c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:55:10 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908290455x311bc6d2m79ed6a8ef4478c76@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:55:11 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Just as soon as my kids stop fighting, im gonna try this.. Thanks Andy... > have to admit that my vortex i full of your patches (from the good ole > Vortex website of yours!!) you hardware nerds i hardly understand what yer talking.... p ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 12:13:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C11B83BEA6; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=4zeCp4puX2lxPFW3jgbtePyu7aSeN1tJcqqw7UgLpu8=; b=nv4+MHQw2OjI1R2B39oIqL6HttTqVgRHuSaRpIZMGUGp5nDS7wU63kbNZ/uyavhY5M MHPNplFaUDVM0Jk3vuC++oepp6+Qma+x1rOVkN5HvusZgS2durYGPWHNCRkrfzSi6+gq 9WF/BJsjiYtS3zo0JgSiw9Rodaz1+8sedjTrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XoWowZNZIsJRf7S5iF57BGPZ10eGuoDs22XIlaUhb79pWvbsNqrAhpohd/gTQ3Ueum 5/VCeEDmKgOe6aVMROOgK9LDCr9yz1nFT5qcmqrmTKVPhUiyn5gm6Dj0VqN8hT6l0491 lZf3bayhj+QahpqzXZ2cl+INf/pwakF8rIArs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908290455x311bc6d2m79ed6a8ef4478c76@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908290451x4cd63268y83af695aeda52c8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908290455x311bc6d2m79ed6a8ef4478c76@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:13:09 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fb3926296dfad109 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908290513i6bd9032p58ebe8125d2f1fcc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bb4d80270d047246bae1 Resent-Message-ID: <4GOysD.A.z3E.qtRmKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:13:30 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bb4d80270d047246bae1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Just as soon as my kids stop fighting, im gonna try this.. Thanks Andy... > > have to admit that my vortex i full of your patches (from the good ole > > Vortex website of yours!!) > > you hardware nerds i hardly understand what yer talking.... Oh go back to your computer cubicle Per... Us hardware MEN have some heavy racks to lift... m.:-) -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5bb4d80270d047246bae1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM, mark francombe<mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > Just as soon as my kids stop fighting, im gonna try this.. Thanks Andy= ...
    > have to admit that my vortex i full of your patches (from the good ole=
    > Vortex website of yours!!)

    you hardware nerds i hardly understand what yer talking....


    Oh go back to your computer cubicle Per... Us hardware MEN = have some heavy racks to lift...

    m.:-)=A0



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    --001636c5bb4d80270d047246bae1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 14:42:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CF943BE78; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1eSUMbUttLUA:10 a=FcAFIstCAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=L8-3oVRxAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=OJoJ4g_ZuZJFIZTiB0AA:9 a=987-TO9E4WBOOOp2lAkA:7 a=OZWpPhwPCzd_GoKMoKe_KHziQB4A:4 a=NV0LgFqsyRYA:10 a=NKE3YzOYgLqh4Swa:21 a=OzI1QrzEsc9xgvy4:21 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:42:20 -0700 References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <5P5lRC.A.bBE.N5TmKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Just popping my nose in here. That looks like a good patch to try Andy. Thanks. I haven't programmed anything new on either of my vortexes in years. You've inspired me. On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:29 AM, andy butler wrote: > one from the vaults > > ******* > Vortex Varispeed > > Atmosphere B > Set:- > Mix 32 > Mod FX LVL and Echo LVL 64 > Echo 1& 2 1 > Feedback 1 64 or less maybe > Feedback 2 1 > Resonance 1 64 > ........and assign pedal to resonance 2 > > > ******** > > You now have a pedal activated varispeed echo, > the effect gets greater on shorter delay times. > > with the below described technique it works like this > > so, save that to both sides of a pair of registers, > with Morph=64 ( which is fastest..right?) > > de-assign pedal to Resonance2. > > on reg A, > Resonance2 = 1 > on reg B > Resonance2 = 64 > > now, when you engage the GrobSquareWaver you get > the Kaiser effect. > > Or something like it, > or something different, I can't be 100% sure, > but you'll like it I hope. > > > > andy > > > > > > > > > mark francombe wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler >> > wrote: >> :-) try and pay attention, this has been discussed before. >> Sarky booger Butler!!! >> Actually I do things like this all the time, and Andrew, I mostly >> do it with your beloved Vortex!!! I have one synched to an EDP >> (using the Grob Cable) but instead of sunthing the tap tempo, i >> trigger the morph AB.. with wildly different settings on A and B >> patches I get that squarewave mod thing.. I tell ya thats from >> Glitchingtonville Arizona... >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 17:01:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F0573BE7C; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1251565266; bh=z/Bdk9Yoc2GcIMBGmGS5JLoWfGHkVUIHb21mmEGUPic=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=o+TvhSx1ROkvBlfRVS35wjUSNFcGzrq0yKk2i0GMUzV0GEfYgZLM8SFTbaXxXvMrldqMkqLf/skJ3FavTCwbtcGptfvXWd0NPlmxuLWIOUaVuXqH9r1NAZQQVNxdSCzm2dcfu8Y1uvBjMwziZ4SDl/C9VDKqZj8CPv1nYiJiZe4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bRh/tdgMEvQ1hOl5d99/UyJt2043fBpE/6Ym1WzarcQ1reFBtCDG8qJpr2K+7ZRmj8Ng3txbTHwYf72E6GqFPIawDk+Ov/26thkNR/aq3d9x5XXfqboespvXRBwgR017+p7+phQZ+xTPAcF6MhZjSIEDRgtwxPxayuahhaaNCMI=; Message-ID: <804134.19591.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IN0i5DwVM1myiJ61sUbnz85nvFjofhV.o7iamAw3l9p0z8BzBpiKWZRPBdoF_mlNL9YFOzE9B3wg8nRQvJJee2VAslAY9cF2fNmXTsSsrQu3SjBnZv3CBI7wFSPaNSryGo8Fr4sxZla05FzutFt6oYddWBz.3ytzDzukCgZ_gwpw11dqdtnlp4QsLMnQvx5nwbvdcWOxtpEZf94deWqmRHLbpDtY8g8NTi55dIuGlWULr8_iamubuxKPSQ7derLPiZnoKkABcoSrKrs- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:01:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:01:08 +0000 (UTC) I'd imagine that most Vortex owners will now be similarly inspired.=0A=0ASt= ephen=0Awww.myspace.com/sylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A--- On Sat, 29/8/09, tEd =AE = KiLLiAn wrote:=0A=0A> From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn =0A> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kais= er square mod=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Saturda= y, 29 August, 2009, 2:42 PM=0A> Just popping my nose in here.=0A> =0A> That= looks like a good patch to try Andy.=0A> =0A> Thanks.=0A> =0A> I haven't p= rogrammed anything new on either of my vortexes=0A> in years.=0A> =0A> You'= ve inspired me.=0A> =0A> On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:29 AM, andy butler wrote:=0A= > =0A> > one from the vaults=0A> > =0A> > *******=0A> > Vortex Varispeed=0A= > > =0A> > Atmosphere B=0A> > Set:-=0A> > Mix=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A= > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A032=0A> > Mod FX = LVL and Echo LVL=A0 =A0=A0=A064=0A> > Echo 1& 2=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 1=0A> > Feedback 1=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> 64=A0=A0=A0or less maybe=0A= > > Feedback=A0 2=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A= > =A0 1=0A> > Resonance 1=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0=A0=A064=0A> > ........and assign pedal to resonance 2=0A> > =0A> > =0A>= > ********=0A> > =0A> > You now have a pedal activated varispeed echo,=0A>= > the effect gets greater on shorter delay times.=0A> > =0A> > with the be= low described technique it works like this=0A> > =0A> > so, save that to bo= th sides of a pair of registers,=0A> > with Morph=3D64 ( which is fastest..= right?)=0A> > =0A> > de-assign pedal to Resonance2.=0A> > =0A> > on reg A,= =0A> > Resonance2 =3D 1=0A> > on reg B=0A> > Resonance2 =3D 64=0A> > =0A> >= now, when you engage the GrobSquareWaver you get=0A> > the Kaiser effect.= =0A> > =0A> > Or something like it,=0A> > or something different, I can't b= e 100% sure,=0A> > but you'll like it I hope.=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > an= dy=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > mark franc= ombe wrote:=0A> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler=0A> >=0A> wrote:=0A> >>=A0 = =A0 :-) try and pay attention, this has=0A> been discussed before.=0A> >> S= arky booger Butler!!!=0A> >> Actually I do things like this all the time, a= nd=0A> Andrew, I mostly do it with your beloved Vortex!!! I have=0A> one sy= nched to an EDP (using the Grob Cable) but instead of=0A> sunthing the tap = tempo, i trigger the morph AB.. with wildly=0A> different settings on A and= B patches I get that squarewave=0A> mod thing.. I tell ya thats from Glitc= hingtonville=0A> Arizona...=0A> >> --www.markfrancombe.com =0A> >> http://vimeo.com/user825094=0A> >> http://uk.youtube.= com/user/markfrancombe=0A> >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe=0A> >> h= ttp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch=0A> > =0A> =0A= > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 18:34:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9FC63BE77; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1251570842; bh=slxEVlVW95V9jtIMkusahPevibOkCnG0F85EE05jfOw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QX29ZuTE+ZhiE4JTjYx7dfXgz3ocQk8Uo24+tYwjsiDvZF8KNmeaGr5np7fqXSnzN37kkNjJx1CVTsP7Wr6u0ZO/tchmnUxNLcxPwdOVFyumsud8VaYRxtVrBSulb7JeenFeTylhHTv3b8l8GX+ixODhFPBNkAjHg2GcRlWCgNs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4mYbSZ+6trNCfx0EhFDEON3vJnjv/+SUm5sv6Go7nU7yoZSn97x63GHCMs+k1UB/CB2EkPyoI57pXrUTDdUPSwCS1IbJdQuoVz1nfw3Xt60i6oR8gKhlDqjHcEjX0F7huKDzjEFGWNADRLkcgrK8jxX5CQJUa6LPURNbRYyDgUs=; Message-ID: <284347.55052.qm@web110410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: V4gFNggVM1nCuruvdrkIILn0GJ8lKfgOVva0cBd5Hnq0RBn0wRi4wwebd5AUrBKlygvF8KCPna.ssHWEeUaMQ6NbtT9VrUe7b1AzlgnTF32cj9W0lU7.ipX64HEp_4WhmUeUozh9uemdWzxEamdmQPrQiYRT.0VbZGrmWB2Brc1XANhtTN_H9pKu7xnG1kZf8H9sdckweX.3jIs5fJ_ce8L5q3bOmsuW7ydTekmKEFGe5Ps.ZpZZ29ISNrrHvV.7kghC5x_8mgTyCNV8o5Wet3HtmC8g59K6Kc1yFuZ0JyQ4w4x.j71iyxK8hGXOIQw- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:34:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Fata Subject: Re: EDP VG99 FC300 Problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090825101643.36DE03BED0@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-32592447-1251570842=:55052" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:34:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-32592447-1251570842=:55052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks to everyone who replied to my post. I might look into this device, MIDI Solutions Event Processor; 10 Event MIDI Event Processor as a possible solution. Maybe I could filter out events that might be causing problems. Thanks again, Fred --0-32592447-1251570842=:55052 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

    Thanks to everyone who replied to my post.

    I might look into this device,


    MIDI Solutions Event Processor; 10 Event MIDI Event Processor


    as a possible solution.

    Maybe I could filter out events that might be causing problems.


    Thanks again,

    Fred


    --0-32592447-1251570842=:55052-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 20:02:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52CD63BE73; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:02:17 -0700 References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Playing without a net is what I end up doing. Sometimes it goes well. Sometimes I'm running on empty and I wish I had some material to fall back on. Mark On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Sorry if this sounds flip, but I'd just say, play without a net. (i > say this without having followed any of the previous thread that > spawned this) > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Mark Hamburg > wrote: >> When I was last in conscious recording mode -- as opposed to, the >> recorder >> happens to be running while I'm playing -- the approach I found >> myself >> taking was to improvise until I found something I liked, then hone >> in on >> various elements of it playing the "piece" repeatedly until I had >> the flow >> down, then record it possibly doing a couple takes while doing so. >> Having >> then committed the piece to some form of recording medium, I would >> then >> proceed to let it flow back out of my brain which was fine until I >> found >> myself in a live performance situation with no material to fall >> back on. >> >> Mark >> >> > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 20:44:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 532043BE77; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=NPuZiRQOMZwA:10 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=t6gmu7T4AAAA:8 a=XV7TGbyZVrAi026zjUUA:9 a=h3DevEwylU6oP0Opp2EA:7 a=on-YoxoJ1N3U7sS1hTGVkzjy7C0A:4 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 Message-Id: <0F625F2E-066B-46BA-8248-0DC5A6194309@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:44:02 -0700 References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <53f2fC.A.5oB.YMZmKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Mark, I just wanted to pipe in and remind you that you're not alone it this. A lot of us (I for one, as you very well know) fly by the seat of my pants pretty much all the time. But often I am so tired by the time I stagger up on stage (from all the gear schleppage and all the miles driven) that I am simply running on empty by the time I play the first note. Unfortunately, the only material I have under my fingers to "fall back on" is more suitable for a folk hootenanny or church picnic than a looping or avant-garde music festival. I think, sink or swim, it is better to trust in the benevolence of one's muse(s) to guide when one comes to the end of one's musical rope. Letting go of the rope is what faith is all about (a concept that I think can be understood by both religious and non-religious types). Cheers, Ted On Aug 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Playing without a net is what I end up doing. Sometimes it goes > well. Sometimes I'm running on empty and I wish I had some material > to fall back on. > > Mark > > On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> Sorry if this sounds flip, but I'd just say, play without a net. (i >> say this without having followed any of the previous thread that >> spawned this) >> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Mark Hamburg >> wrote: >>> When I was last in conscious recording mode -- as opposed to, the >>> recorder >>> happens to be running while I'm playing -- the approach I found >>> myself >>> taking was to improvise until I found something I liked, then hone >>> in on >>> various elements of it playing the "piece" repeatedly until I had >>> the flow >>> down, then record it possibly doing a couple takes while doing so. >>> Having >>> then committed the piece to some form of recording medium, I would >>> then >>> proceed to let it flow back out of my brain which was fine until I >>> found >>> myself in a live performance situation with no material to fall >>> back on. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 20:45:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C82E43BE77; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DT6h3CpU0xO5Y6vHy83yf67WVkvpeFBA5wtyc6KeRUo=; b=MKbtO9ubWN3p5NOe50XgHGflGyjl+Vw66SVaRZ4qg+RQsWPa4SD9gotkVs6pjfXsbE NXcF5JPBxbNWvajVsrLCPyZJXzoSbZpOShQ8ZuFhHr/vNWSJH8napqTUYUAUfrFc9upo qDFcjIxPDTINFFyLgWf+GAfgg6gsu8MXrn0FU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vPX0KT0gZOQJpg79PPw5dvAJgFY/LaoABuT7DU7U023FiiZitfgaf6ZFJtn0SRhdzB /YI7BHaqUbybqae95hxCm9yrXkqgGpEor0nHxBVSUoE8WmYJfqwVfZMIyXVJbJhj4ISX pC4W8OlNOUc/oOakWC5v5/ZCy0ewIu7Y5lNvc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:45:07 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3599e8d244feec67 Message-ID: <101191640908291345y4d44efa6lceffb2b98281250f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Well, in two of my recent looping gigs the midi input failed completely in song 1, and I had to totally abandon all plans to loop! (fortunately, they were both duo settings!) Seriously, I have found fixed pieces to be a little too rigid to work for me in a live looping context (some people, like Amy X., pull them off with awe-inspiring precision, but have less improv).=A0 Somehow, in trying to *re*-create a piece, I often lose the flow I might otherwise be in touch with - it's not a problem when playing familiar guitar songs, but once looping technology is involved, the price of mistakes seems to go up. So better to be in a context where mistakes are harder to make. It's worse to try and force something that's not gelling than to be a little slow in transitioning to the next interesting thing, imo, learned somewhat painfully from experience. Of course, everyone is different. Better, I think, to have a set of fallback *strategies* than pieces, in the vein of Eno's oblique strategies, but more looping specific; e.g. "throw 1 random sound into a very short loop and then go straight into multiply" (like the piece I posted here a couple of days ago). or "record a totally new loop, play over it for a short time, then undo". or just "switch to a patch that might be more inspiring". On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > > Playing without a net is what I end up doing. Sometimes it goes well. Som= etimes I'm running on empty and I wish I had some material to fall back on. > > Mark > > On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> Sorry if this sounds flip, but I'd just say, play without a net. (i >> say this without having followed any of the previous thread that >> spawned this) >> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >>> >>> When I was last in conscious recording mode -- as opposed to, the recor= der >>> happens to be running while I'm playing -- the approach I found myself >>> taking was to improvise until I found something I liked, then hone in o= n >>> various elements of it playing the "piece" repeatedly until I had the f= low >>> down, then record it possibly doing a couple takes while doing so. Havi= ng >>> then committed the piece to some form of recording medium, I would then >>> proceed to let it flow back out of my brain which was fine until I foun= d >>> myself in a live performance situation with no material to fall back on= . >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> >> > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 20:53:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B25F23BE7C; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:53:49 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908290453x7c62150fub566c5bec6c3ab28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090829205349.256640@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <23E3C3C9-5A85-4A60-B3E2-6910EB12E18C@gmail.com> <20090829113410.61720@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0908290453x7c62150fub566c5bec6c3ab28@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: HELP for youtube.com/livelooping needed! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX182reMA61E2HeCx/UeEuCb9uJp3Wv4vlT9EW4H8kO ef5/S9yPOmWbs83pSmdIJ1vm0+32q5lSmkrQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: ZaeqfiotX1V6Cp12l2ByDyp/SDc4NEyG X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I love this GLORIA song... :-) It has a nice pace... Buzap. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYvTKVTzU8 -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 20:54:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D82CC3BE82; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 619 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:54:07 UTC Message-ID: <018501ca28e9$61f508e0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: interview on textura magazine Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:43:36 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0182_01CA2902.8706BE80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:54:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0182_01CA2902.8706BE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, an interview about my working methods, approaches etc has been published = on the textura magazine september issue. http://www.textura.org/reviews/sixstring_alchemists.htm thanks and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes = = ------=_NextPart_000_0182_01CA2902.8706BE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    hi,
     
    an interview about my working methods, approaches etc has been = published on=20 the textura magazine september issue.
     
    http://w= ww.textura.org/reviews/sixstring_alchemists.htm
     
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    www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
    = www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
    *=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    "Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
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    "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
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    Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus
     
    "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
    Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
    = = ------=_NextPart_000_0182_01CA2902.8706BE80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 21:54:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 792DE3BE78; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; bh=y/QlkNc3ZbQ7MYF29lb3T/B5czQ7lSkc48URIsR4Q2s=; b=a32UR5LWwKju3Crks2/hFj6DIfjCTAW1IK3EG2D8kv3dmaPKEMJ/geyONZRb7hjZ61 Eb/b4z+KNxFXEk1y3Cbtq+tEf2B6rN4g8sUiHhhXKEqYj4J/6FICvAEbC3xheF9bQeeO dca4JONGiCPdIi/CBIhlfp/3X25kYLNEUBLgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date :references:x-mailer; b=RB33YoAf4T5wMd6YTqknu5KSuvhI5Nf9Qdg/aN8Xotr9plQ20hQGD5gr371ZZkNTje KWvejZ8+kgtHDJG3LrOqUVdH3/t9/QD6jvXHOQ+3qhzgviBPfiQuUwRGvWwGbriEP4V8 QSyIPvtseX03W66SC9062kG6Ws6RArBxUNq4c= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090829113410.61720@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: HELP for youtube.com/livelooping needed! X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:54:31 -0300 References: <23E3C3C9-5A85-4A60-B3E2-6910EB12E18C@gmail.com> <20090829113410.61720@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:54:56 +0000 (UTC) thank you! and after those hours you could not find my collection? I feel youtube is not quite prepared for this my broadcasting use or do I do it the wrong way? On 29 Aug 2009, at 08:34, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Matthias > > this is really great!! > I have already seen most of the videos in the list - but only after > hours of searching. > > My favorite RC-50 song has not been there, though: > G.l.o.r.i.u.s. by Jonny Wright: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYvTKVTzU8 > I find it much better and convincing than the other one. > > great contribution to the livelooping community thanks! :) > > best regards > Buzap > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 29 22:32:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A2603BE77; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:32:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=GNdchY+S1OcG6NId/XWYZZz2T3SNDqdlUhvfYa49QiM=; b=oD0l1NuMJalg8xBiu2s6Iu0uWqCX95OmfQQvttR2Iqt1ot32ft9RnFSxI/IT1sg7IH WNlz+pP/q8ONhudCE4LWtSM1Zy0dx5gDrQbFcl5pdm4TWt73LQ9CFe54jLLZn5LTznxH AlNALXfSgBQPKZmKFhzv3NTjrdQU0np+zQwRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YRg3NGC9/CZh69TcPI86dW77ZdOWsR21iDORgxkKYY3OfRS469OZuNOKuYbenp0dH9 5eGmZO+OA8ai+J4osU1AvZqV4gdnxuO8yD0LDDfsc++Wknl2zABu1G5X43ZZqif/Z6d2 cEkml3I8QLCCLzEgENDjddWTPVGYmaBWZ8g7E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:32:29 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 349b225fbd61372a Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908291532r18e34115o26ae5aeb320ce7ed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d47d69f51504724f6111 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:32:50 +0000 (UTC) --00504502d47d69f51504724f6111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK tried it... very interesting... but it doesnt really work as you explained.. it didnt really jump in pitch... remember its NOT a delay changing speed here, (one drawback of the vortex is that it wont do that actually... bout the only thing it wont do however.. makes a lovely cupper...) its a pitch change thru modulation... no this is more like a rapid pitch squelch.. which made a really cool rythmic effect actually... thanks Andy... On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:29 PM, andy butler wrote: > one from the vaults > > ******* > Vortex Varispeed > > Atmosphere B > Set:- > Mix 32 > Mod FX LVL and Echo LVL 64 > Echo 1& 2 1 > Feedback 1 64 or less maybe > Feedback 2 1 > Resonance 1 64 > ........and assign pedal to resonance 2 > > > ******** > > You now have a pedal activated varispeed echo, > the effect gets greater on shorter delay times. > > with the below described technique it works like this > > so, save that to both sides of a pair of registers, > with Morph=64 ( which is fastest..right?) > > de-assign pedal to Resonance2. > > on reg A, > Resonance2 = 1 > on reg B > Resonance2 = 64 > > now, when you engage the GrobSquareWaver you get > the Kaiser effect. > > Or something like it, > or something different, I can't be 100% sure, > but you'll like it I hope. > > > > andy > > > > > > > > > mark francombe wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler > akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote: >> >> :-) try and pay attention, this has been discussed before. >> >> >> Sarky booger Butler!!! >> >> Actually I do things like this all the time, and Andrew, I mostly do it >> with your beloved Vortex!!! I have one synched to an EDP (using the Grob >> Cable) but instead of sunthing the tap tempo, i trigger the morph AB.. with >> wildly different settings on A and B patches I get that squarewave mod >> thing.. I tell ya thats from Glitchingtonville Arizona... >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00504502d47d69f51504724f6111 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK tried it... very interesting... but it doesnt really work as you explain= ed.. it didnt really jump in pitch... remember its NOT a delay changing spe= ed here, (one drawback of the vortex is that it wont do that actually... bo= ut the only thing it wont do however.. makes a lovely cupper...) its a pitc= h change thru modulation... no this is more like a rapid pitch squelch.. wh= ich made a really cool rythmic effect actually...
    thanks Andy...


    On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 = at 12:29 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote= :
    one from the vaults

    *******
    Vortex Varispeed

    Atmosphere B
    Set:-
    Mix =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 32
    Mod FX LVL and Echo LVL =A0 =A0 64
    Echo 1& 2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01<= br> Feedback 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064 =A0 or= less maybe
    Feedback =A02 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01
    Resonance 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 64
    ........and assign pedal to resonance 2


    ********

    You now have a pedal activated varispeed echo,
    the effect gets greater on shorter delay times.

    with the below described technique it works like this

    so, save that to both sides of a pair of registers,
    with Morph=3D64 ( which is fastest..right?)

    de-assign pedal to Resonance2.

    on reg A,
    Resonance2 =3D 1
    on reg B
    Resonance2 =3D 64

    now, when you engage the GrobSquareWaver you get
    the Kaiser effect.

    Or something like it,
    or something different, I can't be 100% sure,
    but you'll like it I hope.



    andy








    mark francombe wrote:
    On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.c= o.uk>> wrote:

    =A0 =A0:-) try and pay attention, this has been discussed before.


    Sarky booger Butler!!!

    Actually I do things like this all the time, and Andrew, I mostly do it wit= h your beloved Vortex!!! I have one synched to an EDP (using the Grob Cable= ) but instead of sunthing the tap tempo, i trigger the morph AB.. with wild= ly different settings on A and B patches I get that squarewave mod thing.. = I tell ya thats from Glitchingtonville Arizona...

    --
    www.markfr= ancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com>




    --
    www.markfrancombe.com
    http://vimeo.com/user825094=
    http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
    http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
    http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
    --00504502d47d69f51504724f6111-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 30 03:56:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD6843BE77; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 03:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <28273.72.22.1251604601.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <190457.10355.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <190457.10355.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:56:41 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: L.Angulo -Antwerp vid part 2 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 03:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Hey Luis, Love it. Sweet groove. Cheers, Andre On Fri, August 28, 2009 8:16 am, L.Angulo wrote: > loop brothers there is the final one > > http://www.vimeo.com/6296714 > > sorry i know i went a bit overboard with the intro but hang in there the > loop is coming;-) > > thanx for listening > Luis > > (P.S.i keep being thrown out of this list although i keep subscribing,i > can post but not get the emails i hope you get this one) > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 30 09:48:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FDF53BE78; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 254369995/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.242.58/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.242.58 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsBAOrnmUpPRvI6/2dsb2JhbAAI1S+EGgWKbQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,299,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="254369995" Message-ID: <4A9A4B34.5010807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:49:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> <101191640908291345y4d44efa6lceffb2b98281250f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <101191640908291345y4d44efa6lceffb2b98281250f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_6H5l.A.kMG.LskmKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Warren Sirota wrote: > trying to *re*-create a piece, I often lose the flow I might otherwise > be in touch with - it's not a problem when playing familiar guitar > songs, but once looping technology is involved, the price of mistakes > seems to go up. So better to be in a context where mistakes are harder > to make. oh, yes, I noticed that :-) looping devices need to be practiced on just as much as the guitar, ...and the empty loop of silence is still a threat > Better, I think, to have a set of fallback *strategies* than pieces, > in the vein of Eno's oblique strategies, but more looping specific; > e.g. "throw 1 random sound into a very short loop and then go straight > into multiply" (like the piece I posted here a couple of days ago). or > "record a totally new loop, play over it for a short time, then undo". > or just "switch to a patch that might be more inspiring". > I like to practise the pieces till I know what to do when they go wrong, keeping in mind that sometimes the composed piece will be totally lost. ..and the audience won't know it went wrong unless your body language give it away, as long as you keep some sounds going. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 30 10:23:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C4FC3BE75; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 254379480/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.242.58/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.242.58 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsBAB/wmUpPRvI6/2dsb2JhbAAI1RaEGgWKbQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,299,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="254379480" Message-ID: <4A9A533C.9000502@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:23:56 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help with Glitch/Stutter technique Kaiser square mod References: <4A9611A8.3020606@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0908270127m2ce1f9f0ue7c7be7af35fcb24@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0908270140i7cd5ceebx6d4a22705cfe8a9a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0908270147i12ac9c56x337994707a428bd2@mail.gmail.com> <4A96764A.6000007@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908270939yf5d487eg83043fd2a60a812c@mail.gmail.com> <4A99031D.2010507@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0908291532r18e34115o26ae5aeb320ce7ed@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0908291532r18e34115o26ae5aeb320ce7ed@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Yep, it's an old patch, and just after posted I realised it couldn't possibly do what I'd thought it did. If you use short echoes and lower values for MORPH it should also be fun, and at least show how I managed to fool myself. back to the drawing board then andy mark francombe wrote: > OK tried it... very interesting... but it doesnt really work as you > explained.. it didnt really jump in pitch... remember its NOT a delay > changing speed here, (one drawback of the vortex is that it wont do that > actually... bout the only thing it wont do however.. makes a lovely > cupper...) its a pitch change thru modulation... no this is more like a > rapid pitch squelch.. which made a really cool rythmic effect actually... > thanks Andy... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 30 14:01:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41CB93BE7C; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A9A8617.9030803@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:00:55 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #647 for August 27, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:01:05 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090827.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #647 August 27, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight was Metacollage on Stokesmusic Records. Saul Stokes: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#aug PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Alpha Wave Movement Ode To an Era Beyond Silence (HRR) Johan Agebjorn Putting More Wood Mossebo (Lotuspike) In the Fire Cluster Lerandis Qua (Nepenthe) Jordan Rudess and Part 2 A Fistful of Patchcords (none) Richard Lainhart Create No Inhibitions In the Blink of an Eye(Groove) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Saul Stokes Slowing Into Metacollage (Stokesmusic) Shimmering Steel Saul Stokes Out of True Metacollage (Stokesmusic) Saul Stokes Polaroids Metacollage (Stokesmusic) Saul Stokes Drop By Drop Metacollage (Stokesmusic) Saul Stokes Inescapable Metacollage (Stokesmusic) Saul Stokes Stories Reflect In Metacollage (Stokesmusic) Those Eyes Saul Stokes Atom Metacollage (Stokesmusic) Saul Stokes Tethered Metacollage (Stokesmusic) Robert Rich and Veiled React (DiN) Ian Boddy Robert Rich and Slow Hand React (DiN) Ian Boddy 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Ulrich Schnauss. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disc one from Far Away Trains Passing By. Ulrich Schnauss: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#sep Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 30 16:29:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D7053BE79; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_db16750a-32d3-4de4-be38-19411099bcb1_" X-Originating-IP: [69.244.201.224] From: Jonathon Rogers To: Subject: OT: Lexicon JamMan with 32 seconds of memory on Ebay Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:29:24 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2009 16:29:24.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[09401FE0:01CA298F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:29:25 +0000 (UTC) --_db16750a-32d3-4de4-be38-19411099bcb1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm selling my JamMan on Ebay if anyone is interested. It is in great shap= e and has the full 32 seconds of memory. =20 Ebay item # 270449640105 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DPID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-U= S:WM_HYGN_faster:082009= --_db16750a-32d3-4de4-be38-19411099bcb1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm selling my JamMan on Ebay if anyone is interested. =3B It is in gre= at shape and has the full 32 seconds of memory. =3B 
    Ebay item =
# 270449640105



    Hot= mail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. = --_db16750a-32d3-4de4-be38-19411099bcb1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 30 17:36:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDAB13BE72; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:36:01 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=YeOc7tAqnrj2+7CylRL/8T5/V5SY1RnRKGsmARFJtDVw2W0hiO+m31GeE1qs/kCORe9hMXbDS66BuxDQVALGD0Hrt39DfhtSvnZgJMsfZdm1dvakvK1MV1NYUI/vBG90Ui+6BnvZCRI8dwekMYnawYUbTbztFHYzneuk42566D0= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: 5423ca4VM1noIk6UaUsMlq7wDk9DuPGUwZVCDtbSR2r5b0DGDmFv5QBoCVwpe1iz9xAw_2N5Sm8OrWgYwNyv0ADDyFyVs1eROwtbhe5DUS0P80A.OvV3nLAT3E8ydsVxY4PYQqQQdoLRvVZp9yaU5bYNzEPg2V.pVwhgTbr69pW_LuRixq.sLSzVNr4GigDCW7UzN5Qd.0E0aPFFh4oA8y3qO_FwxWdakVDvfa3fiVIc X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-615734683 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Ustream gig in at 8pm UST - virtual gigspam Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:29:17 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:36:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-615734683 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi I will playing live on ustream tonight at 8 pm BST http://bit.ly/ bTHIh 2 hours time - ta My real world gig today got cancelled so i thought i'd do an online one. Like Cliff said "Lets do the show right here". Am i the first person to quote cliff richard on loopers delight? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-1-615734683 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hi I will playing live on ustream tonight at 8 pm BST http://bit.ly/bTHIh 2 hours time - ta

    My real world gig today got cancelled so i thought i'd do an online one.

    Like Cliff said "Lets do the show right here".

    Am i the first person to quote cliff richard on loopers delight?

    Matt Stevens
    www.mattstevensguitar.com




    --Apple-Mail-1-615734683-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 30 18:46:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AAD13BE71; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2276 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:46:55 UTC Message-Id: <560E58A6-B555-443E-AB38-D4FAC849D563@kliklak.net> From: jayrope LD To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090830173602.422F93BE7F@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: OT: Lexicon JamMan with 32 seconds of memory on Ebay Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:08:55 +0200 References: <20090830173602.422F93BE7F@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Hello Jonathan, your Ebay auction states "You can layer up to eight 32 second loops.", although actually you can have up to 8 loops all using the same 32 seconds, means, if the first loop is 9 seconds long, then there'd be only 23 seconds left for two more loops of 9 seconds, leaving 5 seconds unused. I guess it would be fair to state it like that. However, is there an option to ship to Europe/Berlin? I could use another Lexicon Jamman very much. - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Aug 30, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > OT: Lexicon JamMan with 32 seconds of memory on Ebay > > > I'm selling my JamMan on Ebay if anyone is interested. It is in > great shape and has the full 32 seconds of memory. > Ebay item # 270449640105 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 01:17:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FA4B3BE77; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0a7b15b7-0412-4104-91bc-e72cb141ae13_" X-Originating-IP: [69.244.201.224] From: Jonathon Rogers To: Subject: RE: OT: Lexicon JamMan with 32 seconds of memory on Ebay Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:17:11 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <560E58A6-B555-443E-AB38-D4FAC849D563@kliklak.net> References: <20090830173602.422F93BE7F@arsenic.violacea.com> <560E58A6-B555-443E-AB38-D4FAC849D563@kliklak.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2009 01:17:11.0706 (UTC) FILETIME=[C454FFA0:01CA29D8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:17:12 +0000 (UTC) --_0a7b15b7-0412-4104-91bc-e72cb141ae13_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the email. You are correct in your description and I have chang= ed the auction to reflect this. There is an option to ship to Europe...spe= cifically to the UK and Germany. Check the auction for details. Thanks. Jon > From: jrploopers@kliklak.net > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Lexicon JamMan with 32 seconds of memory on Ebay > Date: Sun=2C 30 Aug 2009 20:08:55 +0200 >=20 > Hello Jonathan=2C >=20 > your Ebay auction states "You can layer up to eight 32 second loops."=2C = =20 > although actually you can have up to 8 loops all using the same 32 =20 > seconds=2C means=2C if the first loop is 9 seconds long=2C then there'd b= e =20 > only 23 seconds left for two more loops of 9 seconds=2C leaving 5 =20 > seconds unused. > I guess it would be fair to state it like that. > However=2C is there an option to ship to Europe/Berlin? I could use =20 > another Lexicon Jamman very much. > - - - > jayrope > http://www.kliklak.net >=20 > On Aug 30=2C 2009=2C at 7:36 PM=2C Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-deli= ght.com=20 > wrote: >=20 > > OT: Lexicon JamMan with 32 seconds of memory on Ebay > > > > > > I'm selling my JamMan on Ebay if anyone is interested. It is in =20 > > great shape and has the full 32 seconds of memory. > > Ebay item # 270449640105 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live=2C you can organize=2C edit=2C and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery= --_0a7b15b7-0412-4104-91bc-e72cb141ae13_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the email. =3B You are correct in your description and I hav= e changed the auction to reflect this. =3B There is an option to ship t= o Europe...specifically to the UK and Germany. =3B Check the auction fo= r details. =3B Thanks.

    Jon

    >=3B From: jrploopers@klikla= k.net
    >=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    >=3B Subject: = OT: Lexicon JamMan with 32 seconds of memory on Ebay
    >=3B Date: Sun=2C= 30 Aug 2009 20:08:55 +0200
    >=3B
    >=3B Hello Jonathan=2C
    >= =3B
    >=3B your Ebay auction states "You can layer up to eight 32 secon= d loops."=2C
    >=3B although actually you can have up to 8 loops all u= sing the same 32
    >=3B seconds=2C means=2C if the first loop is 9 sec= onds long=2C then there'd be
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    >=3B I gue= ss it would be fair to state it like that.
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    >=3B another Lexicon J= amman very much.
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    >=3B jayrope
    >=3B http://www.kli= klak.net
    >=3B
    >=3B On Aug 30=2C 2009=2C at 7:36 PM=2C Loopers-De= light-d-request@loopers-delight.com
    >=3B wrote:
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    >= =3B >=3B OT: Lexicon JamMan with 32 seconds of memory on Ebay
    >=3B &= gt=3B
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    >=3B >=3B I'm selling my JamMan on Ebay if an= yone is interested. It is in
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    >=3B >=3B Ebay item # 270449640105
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    --00151747bf2cb111b704726f4f1c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 13:00:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B4443BE71; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1251723636; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=NZOLK3H1gKlPpKSexmZC+bDuR/c=; b=KSowSty7suXfwWBHv1bLwLul3ry8990i7ksquOpS1VdXBXvD5rI4zW2AQ68ZF+k+ cvnFL1knNeuotscpq1wrKsuXk/EVehseSJOnTNpc5ZJfLqtBqw8bV2ET5KkfEcN2; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=XYDGDZ0UXHX9z0OQ-vsA:9 a=oCzm-vbZCaLIA2QQBFz85Uo8WWIA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01ca2a3b$07be75c0$a3842245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: Test Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:00:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:00:37 +0000 (UTC) 5X5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak Overgaauw" To: "LD" Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:30 AM Subject: Test > testing new email account > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 13:04:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4870F3BE78; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9cbR05LUMbHRbJSeysbePtus8al/MY/Jl3MvDX8Tu4o=; b=FyF3hgypfLa0xu8cdV3CNePxQYD7AEgdcZ9A5yvpWK8a80lbJotSsu8AjpSoirDsZf 5pi7OhciSNmJaB7UgnqVo53jWqqujVWUkAh95GtzUw7RWHArJaYxMxYL7xT/j0HSsZFF MIG5VNjtzDUDG0Jr9MTwcfdo0G6whTUKrTE24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o15HT3FXQLiK710r57X8Zb2MbbpIlCqbN+BivaT3L2cYtgEKTMzMvGPMxu4HsjK4jr nk2vrubuznp0C20impUjMo70PVhd8oF0IOONqeaA0smheyPJEUY0LmEol8utFX3bzJ2U 51LduQ4TAriuX8b5vxqCxHXR7d5roHKWNA8iw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:04:54 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908310604r71f5bca7o1e6eb9b6f4de7674@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Test From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:04:56 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > testing Affirmative! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 13:33:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25B793BE8C; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kwq+uYuO8bxlOqncI9zyKL2HJ/jz6tBfURwrAd90x4g=; b=glOgRu2gIWjEc7z8zmHxY1XQV/vrfN/AE/IHCbRFaQkD+Jv41nkyVzurns30/Xu2gP 2SkfzfiSQ/YumeA+vK4mK9V8FxKjYtJ1NA/301j0jZpAzs3T1V62/TFQfWCW/XwzCpBM 7QDFYOwXkwwXqYdu6GY+W7VboAm/Okr575I/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G1vrGN0I/L/zXr5Rvifp1KlUJiIpqdPro73P8NhrL2sV/jtiw4SfrDx3et85raeoko z1/nUiPwyTEEBFHRPGN65V2AEABI0eX24qapoHYVnK4cJWV2qD/B1jOxBkiGDCHoRchs ZrjirK5n09a3xqgh9+GxFUIbm4pCNtiNSczbk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:33:22 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0908310633s78c47768sba02b7b7d7fdc35b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I hate playing without a structure He, he... and I have sometimes been thinking that I maybe hear too much structures in plain noise. ;-)) But, seriously: to my surprise, when being lucky to team up with just as "introvert" co-improvisers it has turned out the audience have also "heard" the same structures - so I guess it can't be total imagination. Have you noticed that there is a structure to silence as well? Somehow I think it is not so much about talent but rather about trust and attitude. If you trust in the process it will reward you. But if you just feed a fraction of disbelief in your mind the music will not reveal a structure for you to play with. Another wonderful aspect is that if you do not try hard, a lot of elements will fall into the right places. It really is the power of non-strength. A trick to get into this is to not play the structures you hear right off the shelf; you should rather play around them, play comments and fun variations of the structures. Then new structures will emanate and the process will continues. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 14:12:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F50C3BE72; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0A31CKKWm6AGkUxZvtAA:9 a=GH9e0XFSQsM1UJ-jifbZlTopubkA:4 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Test Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:12:50 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Loud and clear. On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:30 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > testing new email account > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 14:19:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E78333BE79; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/ch2v28LSXVWowqtsp2ROmGvE8xuaWsEQINqkKy4wYQ=; b=xEfdhjJ1VHbggaQlkZ68kja5WAy8wcawedJLXEzeVUyjqnoexzeXrguyKcCJd1cbil H3PIFUKD6m3z+06YuQGencyn91ziSbiyHLa2g7OZQwuQACb10oT6wS/vLmFfJ7nkfHFz 2GyxhImMIYeg27ufgvDHxBu0EXUONLVS9nA+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=H9DgLngVITjK8vbKJOnW7cc9onKdjK/7yzQ7KP6yGyjowgMXecJHMWS2FOfVrkx6iu 4ktCi71E2mfpSGzdmX2poiH5yQ9ZD9Gj9Az7vDDVptkBeVb94kNpGijXmVkfe3iL1L8g SNlJUVm1TrlV78da4lGtpizoxPlVEIxbM6wKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908310633s78c47768sba02b7b7d7fdc35b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0908310633s78c47768sba02b7b7d7fdc35b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:19:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <531vXC.A.UMG.Fw9mKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:19:49 +0000 (UTC) > Per wrote: > Somehow I think it is not so much about talent but rather about trust > and attitude. If you trust in the process it will reward you. But if > you just feed a fraction of disbelief in your mind the music will not > reveal a structure for you to play with. Another wonderful aspect is > that if you do not try hard, a lot of elements will fall into the > right places. It really is the power of non-strength. This is so true. I haven't done much live looping performances, but "less is often more" and can be a great help in finding your way while improvising. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 16:54:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E56D93BE75; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=flyloops.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TkdnstxhsyB9EAqd67S8mXY/1s8iJ1Es6s2zj/dpaQRRo5UVFSkdgnuTQ4pHHlnHO2Kpq9Nx6px5GcvyJHB0H2Z6K9eLTKzTddreZhZXbOxZ06s/xeWGujpIdIuqtnyT; Message-ID: <4A9C002D.30508@flyloops.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:54:05 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Simple Multiple Loop Sampling Tool for Mac? References: <20090827222010.47390@gmx.net> <20090829075858.274300@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090829075858.274300@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: <_j3Xf.A.ZsF.9AAnKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Mac version has been out for a few months now. Recompiling today for Mac and adding a few new features as well. If I remember, you were also asking me about syncing to MIDI, which it also supports now. Check it out and send me some feedback. Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi guys > > thank you for the links I will check them out. > Aaron, I thought FlyLoop was based on Win not Mac? > > The on-the-fly assignment of Musolomo seems interesting. > I wouldn't actually miss feedback > > thanks > Buzap > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 17:30:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CF0D3BE78; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1452 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:30:39 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dXSXEjABq8mlerNmBdNuAjhCnB4RjHDmhp2I232fQBA=; b=vlsysiNOqLiFfdXvx3USvFEu7wNOxtL16tsU3KpqP3VN10iwS93TA3MHZcJoMPQBtJ cuwuNw42KCkM78k5w4AzencT3Rh13qWLeepU+YCtStukgbCjTOMqSdM1h50xT1y+y4+V MQqY7fHd2Xv6AvKJ7ldcq+MXrKi1RXcAaSinE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wdokdCPZpP8bbLC55xqbaaUMXL9OXx1B9DC4IQeJcqep0z9Ti6iWKTCNSBz3yrhTf8 niVvEkHePXSL5zcIE+I2cgfzz4nVqX07EClxTYK+UIn/oPUnXLcwbXHv1lak4UHZDpqP VoMasqK3myYtdtuROvV4ZOgrp/KMgHme5zMTo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0908310633s78c47768sba02b7b7d7fdc35b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0908310633s78c47768sba02b7b7d7fdc35b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:58:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30908310958v66c4c8e6g2398f2b88e85218e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote . . . > He, he... and I have sometimes been thinking that I maybe hear too much s= tructures in plain noise. ;-)) I find that my favorite loops are sometimes very eccentric and have a "limp" and often don't sound like they're worth even trying to play with them=97but in the process of letting them cycle for awhile, I start getting used to the wobble and as I play along, I find myself adapting and finally playing fairly seamlessly over them. (No comment on my ability to do this "live"!) > Somehow I think it is not so much about talent but rather about trust an= d attitude. If you trust in the process it will reward you. But if you just= feed a fraction of disbelief in your mind the music will not reveal a stru= cture for you to play with. Another wonderful aspect is that if you do not = try hard, a lot of elements will fall into the right places. It really is t= he power of non-strength. A zen-like acceptance seems to be the most important factor for me. Doubt is the enemy. Due to situational disturbances in my life over the past decade, I've been fighting my own battles with doubt, but might just be starting to feel like I'm readu to interact more, but don't quote me on that! 8-) --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 31 19:40:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80D093BE73; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2YFJW2cw7hd48eAK3u/kuYP0/z4SfbvvhILfv1MkA1U=; b=F9blvpCJ0gyDQsZ5+I/lF+7TiAwDOcYTydeyY4Hsmqhw0EJhYYgO9nNjekJPPQ40Yr 7zO7oBcXjVhUvsKoy3au+yC0l53B3BmzbSfhv8L2yfULAuNMrzonZJltljVidR/9eT7R v72f117E2NUhVIGVgaNjpERZ35WGx4DGMIeyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=B5ts8TWx8doUQ2QhsaeO56/zxWhSGVELHvn0CIbewO+Gr8szSToiBZh/dXG1kdQ5pE 8c84yhCQy7ia82LXnEdlAv0VkumjrqmT2Slm+ktNdsulowHxr7O4bzRB6/rka8hyiIvM 79BvrllehdOfmyH358XJe4HDyEX/BEDP3KbJk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30908310958v66c4c8e6g2398f2b88e85218e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A966D28.8010903@cruzio.com> <028701ca2714$d68a7db0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <55F02831-DF05-4170-91BA-A3B589B0D093@grubmah.com> <101191640908280717j2b445c28p669e95d67301ea66@mail.gmail.com> <98C7C243-B776-4424-8B35-C9884CCF670C@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0908310633s78c47768sba02b7b7d7fdc35b@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30908310958v66c4c8e6g2398f2b88e85218e@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:39:59 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 21d8fab550191a6b Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0908311239w763f50e3u6156b00d1f8e73e4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Composition & Improvisation (was Re: Terje Rypdal was ECM guitarists) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34484313962047275340f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:40:21 +0000 (UTC) --001636d34484313962047275340f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was reminded of something like this recently. Rehearsing with my guys in Austrailia,(We are The ethanet orchestra ensemble!!!" Playing Sydney on Wednesday) my job is provide the loops while they improv on Trumpet and Bendir... after the first jam, the bendir comented that "My rythums were a bit ... off" I realised that I had been playing 2 synched loops, one with 7 beats and one with 13... sounded pretty straightforward to me.. ha ha!! M On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > Per wrote . . . > > He, he... and I have sometimes been thinking that I maybe hear too much > structures in plain noise. ;-)) > > I find that my favorite loops are sometimes very eccentric and have a > "limp" and often don't sound like they're worth even trying to play > with them=97but in the process of letting them cycle for awhile, I start > getting used to the wobble and as I play along, I find myself adapting > and finally playing fairly seamlessly over them. (No comment on my > ability to do this "live"!) > > > Somehow I think it is not so much about talent but rather about trust > and attitude. If you trust in the process it will reward you. But if you > just feed a fraction of disbelief in your mind the music will not reveal = a > structure for you to play with. Another wonderful aspect is that if you d= o > not try hard, a lot of elements will fall into the right places. It reall= y > is the power of non-strength. > > A zen-like acceptance seems to be the most important factor for me. > Doubt is the enemy. Due to situational disturbances in my life over > the past decade, I've been fighting my own battles with doubt, but > might just be starting to feel like I'm readu to interact more, but > don't quote me on that! 8-) > > -- > Miko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --001636d34484313962047275340f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was reminded of something like this recently. Rehearsing with my guys in = Austrailia,(We are The ethanet orchestra ensemble!!!" Playing Sydney o= n Wednesday)=A0 my job is provide the loops while they improv on Trumpet an= d Bendir... after the first jam, the bendir comented that "My rythums = were a bit ... off" I realised that I had been playing 2 synched loops= , one with 7 beats and one with 13...

    sounded pretty straightforward to me.. ha ha!!

    M

    On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@g= mail.com> wrote:
    Per wrote . . . > He, he... and I have sometimes been thinking that I maybe hear too muc= h structures in plain noise. ;-))

    I find that my favorite loops are sometimes very eccentric and have a
    "limp" and often don't sound like they're worth even tryi= ng to play
    with them=97but in the process of letting them cycle for awhile, I start getting used to the wobble and as I play along, I find myself adapting
    and finally playing fairly seamlessly over them. =A0(No comment on my
    ability to do this "live"!)

    > =A0Somehow I think it is not so much about talent but rather about tru= st and attitude. If you trust in the process it will reward you. But if you= just feed a fraction of disbelief in your mind the music will not reveal a= structure for you to play with. Another wonderful aspect is that if you do= not try hard, a lot of elements will fall into the right places. It really= is the power of non-strength.

    A zen-like acceptance seems to be the most important factor for me.
    Doubt is the enemy. =A0Due to situational disturbances in my life over
    the past decade, I've been fighting my own battles with doubt, but
    might just be starting to feel like I'm readu to interact more, but
    don't quote me on that! =A08-)

    --
    Miko Biffle
    Biffoz@Gmail.com
    "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"




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