From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 1 00:44:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B4B43BE7C; Fri, 1 May 2009 00:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49FA45E8.7060100@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:44:24 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <75GYXC.A.L2H._Xk-JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 00:44:48 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on music recorded at the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Jelenia Gora Sessions" by Sunya Beat on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr Tune in to hear new albums by Steve Roach, Between Interval, and John DuVal. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 1 10:20:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB7EF3BE77; Fri, 1 May 2009 10:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qEB96+p/Mx8Y45GpcxbyYy1l5XZ92gThDzk1HgPh42Y=; b=udJRq03LyhaIvPHYmYUnacBgGB5COEZBJ4WVb9AkvWA8lqBWOyfIH+3NxG92XB86TL z7fF4Dc4l83xGuMqSyAc7SiWoqc/rbD+la3V3ncRXhobtGencudbVk/Q/OxfKEfpIUYF 156Zu/GBzblG81eIAA7u1f9LN08cRoswKK+/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dde1yb11shxLSDqg8l3hUATBz7bjIi6MwLUEXCvQq9w+582uyyqg+suoNO7vys/J9O WPioA+pzpsCbTbuUK0UC7K7Oy0UkPI1IBUIiecTCLuhCrp1J4CqOs7OZTOnKXYuT04y3 x91/MPRIDLdyuUUpwerThCtw/xEZYZn9XfV/I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:20:53 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905010320m1918de17xdc256c336dd8d7c2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: twelve golden notes From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:20:53 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > still interested in chromatic scale? > > http://www.skytopia.com/project/scale.html What a great site! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 1 15:05:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7D0F3BE7C; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eHQAQIqeOir6T3rs53MnXjiaYVItr9P7DodDr0BYeeM=; b=nNKB6gTn5+a5B0u5+IA8wSjDOFR2qtBYrNThLmX56TxHxEpxTO/HeixtFzqfH6jz8W jK6IZ9eWkE8ZN5injGNb5zWwXqxxKyezyekQomlF+jnj0QNDtPTAuRYqumLgXd57w2Ce AZN3T88r7+J3SIsT9S35kH/VcaynVwD+XwqGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JSP6dfXvD2Vs/v8w1BTxXM8oIFvCb60I0HiDy1AE4qGp6FL5HJ/QxWLQWuq5QAtbO2 b8w31UAnGxy75zpFTOqvMy17c+QTiHCG9Q+uootuOxvw9RHBU5w+x2ih+P/5PDH8yUD1 3Kvd/B8+4t4v2rqWiS4UY1wI+pkvX6TyI67A0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:05:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: nodal - generative music sw From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0lh43.A.gKD.o-w-JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:05:12 +0000 (UTC) another interesting approach.. try the ..minimal.. example. not much variations in the supplied examples patches. for win & osx. http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~cema/nodal/ -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From ts@manzano167.server4you.de Fri May 1 16:49:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from manzano167.server4you.de (manzano167.server4you.de [80.86.84.177]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2767D3BE77 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6085 invoked by uid 10002); 26 Apr 2009 12:40:41 +0000 Date: 26 Apr 2009 12:40:41 +0000 Message-ID: <20090426124041.6082.qmail@manzano167.server4you.de> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 1 17:46:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E8B53BE79; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49FB3570.4060203@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:46:24 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #630 for April 30, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:46:32 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090430.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #630 April 30, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on The Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight was The Jelenia Gora Sessions by Sunya Beat on the Ricochet Dream label. Ricochet Gathering: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Random Touch Who's Name Is That? Turbulent Flesh (Roken Boy) Between Interval Minotaur's Lair The Ege of a Fairytale (Spotted Peccary) Rainbow Serpent Mindmachine The 8th Nerve (Manikin) John DuVal 2705 Cassiopeia's Playground (Earth Mantra) Steve Roach Opening Sky Dynamic Stillness (Projekt) Sunya Beat Jelenia Sky The Jelenia Gora Sessions (Ricochet Dream) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Sunya Beat Miami The Jelenia Gora Sessions (Ricochet Dream) Sunya Beat Lys TJGS (Ricochet Dream) Sunya Beat Landmarke TJGS (Ricochet Dream) Sunya Beat Gora Slide TJGS (Ricochet Dream) Sunya Beat Gamma Life TJGS (Ricochet Dream) Sunya Beat Drum Bond TJGS (Ricochet Dream) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll wbegin a month-long focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Return To the Origin on Quantum Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 1 21:08:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09BD43BE85; Fri, 1 May 2009 21:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 18:08:54 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: RE: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine In-reply-to: <9013BF3C-FDB6-46B9-AE59-67CF8B232CA8@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgEAJAB+0kYih9+/2dsb2JhbACKOsRrg30F X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,280,1238986800"; d="scan'208";a="489066046" Resent-Message-ID: <14LzV.A.qoG.pT2-JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Since delivery of the ebay dr-670 I've been trying to do what is supposedly not recommended, that is have the 670 master to the rc-50. Since it's commonly known that the rc-50 loops eventually 'drift' out of sync, I'm wondering if this is because of the 670 only uses a 3 digit tempo (ie, 120,121....183..and so) while the rc measures tempo using tenths (ie. 120.1, 120.3, 180.9 and so on). I've noted that if you advance the tempo on the 670 say from 120 to 121, the rc will not match this but rather will go from 120.0 to say 121.1. Perhaps this is not significant to the issue of why the 670 serve as master to the rc. Any thoughts and of course if someone has ever gotten the 670 to master with the rc ans slave, I'd love to hear the s settings. Cheers, Mike From: Teddy Kumpel [mailto:teddybut@mac.com] Sent: April 23, 2009 9:42 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine what are you doing different than than rest of us? Are you using a pre-recorded loop to establish tempo or tapping the tempo in? Teddy On Apr 23, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > Hi Teddy, > yeah, checked it out yesterday evening. No problems... > Christo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Teddy Kumpel" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine > > > are you sure... > > for everyone else it drifts out of sync over time when syncing to midi > in > > check again > > Teddy No virus found in this incoming message. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 1 22:52:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 196E43BE80; Fri, 1 May 2009 22:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 817 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 01 May 2009 22:52:30 UTC Message-Id: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.4) Subject: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:38:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.4) X-Server-Quench: d871baff-36a0-11de-8156-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVcfTcfFhpo UEhAUlBRHgZgCxkD SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB4 ekRnXHVEXAokcUcA ER0XVG0ObWdpby4Z VEgWIwtTcVEbKElY aVYuVG4MYDFSe3Jh QlF2Z2hoZGUCJH8K HQoEO0wTTUsMVj86 Wx0YAzQiAgUCQW0z KANuKxYQGw4QLgF6 LENpUE5QLB4IBwE2 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:52:31 +0000 (UTC) hi loopers, wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my studio a couple weeks ago: http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde-cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001 best, zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 1 23:08:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 707B23BE84; Fri, 1 May 2009 23:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090501175721.3t2eeag2gc44sgs8@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:57:21 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Zoe Keating Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired References: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <96rRXC.A.9aC.VD4-JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Most excellent.. And a perfect ending.. "Recently I can do alot, and I'm sort of dealing with the repercussions of what it means to be able to do almost anything.. Which is, uh, a new problem for me" peace -cpr Quoting Zoe Keating : > hi loopers, > > wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my > studio a couple weeks ago: > > http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde-cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001 > > best, > > zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 00:44:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A1DB3BE7E; Sat, 2 May 2009 00:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> References: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <34d545a31ccaa6d6a949f8e56ab29f8e@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:44:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Very cool Zoe. On May 1, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > hi loopers, > > wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my > studio a couple weeks ago: > > http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde- > cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001 > > best, > > zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 01:39:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F9563BE80; Sat, 2 May 2009 01:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 22:39:18 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: RE: video interview on how i do it, up at wired In-reply-to: <34d545a31ccaa6d6a949f8e56ab29f8e@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANdA+0kYih9+/2dsb2JhbACKOsM3g30F X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,281,1238986800"; d="scan'208";a="481680639" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 01:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Great stuff Zoe - very engaging! -----Original Message----- From: tEd (r) KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: May 1, 2009 9:45 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Very cool Zoe. On May 1, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > hi loopers, > > wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my > studio a couple weeks ago: > > http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde- > cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001 > > best, > > zoe No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.12/2090 - Release Date: 05/01/09 06:17:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 08:58:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 940DD3BE78; Sat, 2 May 2009 08:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <79b2l8$79g3vt@relay.skynet.be> X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhwFAPmn+0lbtQz1/2dsb2JhbACBUM80BQ X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 10:58:38 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: microphonics Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired In-Reply-To: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> References: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 08:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Highly interesting short video, Zoe. Nice to see how you operate in the digital domain of the looping technique. At 00:38 2/05/2009, you wrote: >hi loopers, > >wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my >studio a couple weeks ago: > >http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde-cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001 > >best, > >zoe www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics www.microphonics.be From info@hi5.com Sat May 2 11:51:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 623 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 02 May 2009 11:51:14 UTC Received: from mailman004-mx200.snv1.external.hi5.com (mailman004-mx200.snv1.external.hi5.com [66.218.163.200]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055B73BE77 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 11:51:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=mailman004-mx1; d=hi5.com; h=From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date; i=info@hi5.com; bh=p03h41wtVJGJqwUiYtlqzWc7SoM=; b=bqU9Za89gfjnq09H8hElFZqE0Lkymz0p2x+iMbf8WFdRhcZ8A2CWjUf1Yj4RNqqhlWTPFytPnIN8 7bQ1DP5od0jXYIL4NvfzHf4EkB2fu4KBOy/1JIFCJrZ9yQZ6nRZt DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=mailman004-mx1; d=hi5.com; b=ycnJipQuD3WsJxWq6jhA8LP/I4J0MLScDYWz0lbQwbhTSP+zftan9RyQkOhmm6OCOfDNXx5GPkYe +T6rS6hPyzHM91OX0boJn1WBN8PCOCUBL80IfnSIVTkU3GEPC+vI; Received: from oak1app237 (172.16.12.244) by mailman004-mx200.snv1.external.hi5.com (PowerMTA(TM) v3.5r6) id hvgpr60nj0ka for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 04:40:37 -0700 (envelope-from ) From: Dj Alex Santiago To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1190428251.87602.1241264437062.JavaMail.root@oak1app237> Subject: Dj Alex Santiago has sent you a hi5 Friend Request MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 04:40:37 -0700 hi5 Invitation
 
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 12:40:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F00C83BE82; Sat, 2 May 2009 12:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 02 May 2009 12:40:37 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=TRo53lTfdwZEV6yf2CLK3WGAa9+wEhoeZTHrUw9v0rv0e9illjReAgHQTDpjU9nz6FcX7fjeIEzARLHdWnVvnopmMZ1MZyg3uluZeuj7yHHLh0zv5OBZX/wjFp4NCZab; Message-ID: <20090502073356.280qkw6540cowcwg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:33:56 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: video interview on how i do it, up at wired References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Zoe, Very good video and interesting to hear how you've transitioned from =20 written-out music to improvised. Also, a good overview of your =20 hardware and software -- including a shot of your truncated FCB1010. -- Kevin Quoting Mike Kilburn : > Great stuff Zoe - very engaging! > > -----Original Message----- > From: tEd (r) KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] > Sent: May 1, 2009 9:45 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired > > Very cool Zoe. > > On May 1, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > >> hi loopers, >> >> wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my >> studio a couple weeks ago: >> >> http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde- >> cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001 >> >> best, >> >> zoe > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.12/2090 - Release Date: 05/01/09 > 06:17:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 13:56:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A4AE3BE81; Sat, 2 May 2009 13:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49FC50F2.9080504@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:56:02 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for April, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:56:13 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/top20-04apr.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for April, 2009. Shows #626 to #630; 2-April-2009 to 30-April-2009 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox website: http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 The Special Focus for April was the Ricochet Gathering. ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL =========================================================== Between Interval - The Ege of a Fairytale - Spotted Peccary Broekhuis, Keller, Schonwalder, Spyra and Fox - Space Cowboys- Ricochet Dreaam Fanger and Kersten - Elektrik Massage - Ricochet Dream Free System Projekt - Narrow Lane - none Ian Boddy - Slide - DiN Ideation - Adrift - Ricochet Dream John DuVal - Cassiopeia's Playground - Earth Mantra Oloiuqui - Other Side of Odra - Ricochet Dream Parallel Worlds - Shade - DiN Polaris - Bakground Stories - Ricochet Dream Rainbow Serpent - The 8th Nerve - Manikin Ricochet Gathering - Okefenokee 2002 - Ricochet Dream Ron Boots - Mea Culpa - Groove Skrzek, Lawler, and Schroyder - Trilogy - Ricochet Dream Steve Roach - Dynamic Stillness - Projekt Steve Roach and Erik Wollo - Stream of Thought - Projekt Steve Roach and vidnaObmana - Spirit Dome-Live Archive - Projekt Sunya Beat - The Jelenia Gora Sessions - Ricochet Dream Syndromeda - Mythical Pusuit - Horizon Wolfram Spyra and Chris Lang - Achtundsechig 24 - Manikin Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 18:46:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FBC73BE7F; Sat, 2 May 2009 18:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0997764f-c93f-4a36-b475-356946d59885_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:46:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> References: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2009 18:46:28.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DA0F570:01C9CB56] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:46:29 +0000 (UTC) --_0997764f-c93f-4a36-b475-356946d59885_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool=2C I like that you keep to the Cello=2C with all the freedom tech= nology gives keeping to some boundaries is sort of a creative tool to help = you keep things interesting.=20 =20 Very nice work.... Anders www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl =20 > From: info@zoekeating.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: video interview on how i do it=2C up at wired > Date: Fri=2C 1 May 2009 15:38:38 -0700 >=20 > hi loopers=2C >=20 > wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my=20 > studio a couple weeks ago: >=20 > http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde-cel= list-zoe-keating/21830486001 >=20 > best=2C >=20 > zoe >=20 --_0997764f-c93f-4a36-b475-356946d59885_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool=2C I like that you keep to the Cello=2C with all the freedom tech= nology gives keeping to some boundaries is =3Bsort of a creative tool t= o help you keep things interesting.
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= --_0997764f-c93f-4a36-b475-356946d59885_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 19:32:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F26B93BE7F; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241292745; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=/edzoYuyn17WXm8KeqcX/R+khdQ=; b=Gzt3i4FYpNfNYDuI1YUsHXk90YfZ7A61EyvMhO6bUJzyTI/NJtb41qYvrhQFrAEG 80cmx+NGn0l/u7AgGSGfIqPYpJ381Kzm3/4j1WuQQl/IL6KqfyrclHwgMygcUC/a; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nS36O97Bj3wUElCrIrAA:9 a=WSUfejPYnVaDIwHsvJh5HpFP3bwA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501c9cb5c$b8583cb0$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: test Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:32:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 19:32:25 +0000 (UTC) test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 20:39:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DD793BE7E; Sat, 2 May 2009 20:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 564 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 02 May 2009 20:39:52 UTC X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 2035139041 Message-ID: <2035139041-1241296221-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1728753953-@bxe1133.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired From: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 20:30:21 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 20:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Congrats, pretty cool Zoe !! -KalimbaMan ------Original Message------ From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers Delight ReplyTo: Loopers Delight Subject: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Sent: May 1, 2009 6:38 PM hi loopers, wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my studio a couple weeks ago: http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde-cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001 best, zoe Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 21:24:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 044073BE84; Sat, 2 May 2009 21:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <000501c9cb5c$b8583cb0$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000501c9cb5c$b8583cb0$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <46de528565773af16c124ca413dec77f@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: test Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:24:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 21:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Getting testy are we? On May 2, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > test > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 2 21:30:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF8673BE80; Sat, 2 May 2009 21:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241299858; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ci3QZs5NgIjSigOtjyv/nEhepJs=; b=pttjR25olesKTKVkchOzhO+QfoQiZn9L5Nq71TgNh7wZuLLvPZi2CR/HHKFlBtXr +Kk25krIqR4g843Rr1POX01C0RH/F8syObw+63vr/1jPVtNBEtRcd1GmUcW+/t3h; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=LxCFhdmNo-jiGdnvMpQA:9 a=_BGXYnc84KjVn5S8vJoS2YeTpQIA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9cb6d$48012c40$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000501c9cb5c$b8583cb0$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> <46de528565773af16c124ca413dec77f@charter.net> Subject: OT: Re: test Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 17:30:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <2cKQ-D.A.gOG.SuL_JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 21:30:58 +0000 (UTC) yeah, i hate being sick! As you already know, it sucks. How ya feeling now? I hope your son recovers quickly also. Oops! this isn't facebook, my bad! /shifting to relevent mode: When are we gonna get to see/hear BEMF? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 3 01:50:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7242F3BE7F; Sun, 3 May 2009 01:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <000601c9cb6d$48012c40$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000501c9cb5c$b8583cb0$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> <46de528565773af16c124ca413dec77f@charter.net> <000601c9cb6d$48012c40$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <53717f0dad1dc11500234f6c7aff1218@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT: Re: test Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:50:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 01:50:30 +0000 (UTC) JD, I'm feeling some better. My son seems to have a milder case . . . so far. As for BEMF/B-CIMF last weekend they usually do recording straight from the board. Aaron Davis runs the live sound expertly and handles the recording too. Eventually, he'll trim out the individual performances as he has time and Krispen will post them. I wouldn't look for anything for at least a few weeks, maybe a month. They're very busy guys . . . and due for a little rest. Get well soon Mr. Duke! TK On May 2, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > yeah, i hate being sick! As you already know, it sucks. How ya feeling > now? I hope your son recovers quickly also. Oops! this isn't facebook, > my bad! > /shifting to relevent mode: > When are we gonna get to see/hear BEMF? Did you record? > > slowly maybe feeling a little better, > > jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 3 03:14:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2674E3BE80; Sun, 3 May 2009 03:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=chEB1vLWg/VNC/UMScH1qYNg7+L/wdIxGi/AHnCIS4w=; b=uf4TE1Rci3sF9Q0RKR5fC731CPWKg1qSzJsTZW+3ypmJic5oargLbtEK3XXtyjGiy2 LjmHVaQI1sJNMxhf8Gjk0mPr1RoR6iiRsAGNHk/DJ+cMddO+v2Ktg//jvKoWUCbK2mOj 0UOp4QhiSe796OhyyrmSQV4yhHXiaYKYVY6Ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qyTwhkI+6kC6GQIZTKz0DYysewDNqbjlPg6Ll5nvvcg7UOv7qRGIWNFygCli4VMSju AGtAu+MNvG9FgTx9Qu0uYD1ZYobsBbqY7c6ZOHxh09wlIj16mjU1g8BPM4G6ymts1YtN WuYjZScgSqmiPObxkT/AdNO2HFebPbBJKWT/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> References: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 20:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0905022014j749747b8w9f80c3abfcbf6b52@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 03:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Very Cool! Well done Zoe, Thanks! -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 3 04:13:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AFD63BE7E; Sun, 3 May 2009 04:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 03 May 2009 04:13:15 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b6c9ae5f-b32b-421c-a3c0-09261f979b7d_" X-Originating-IP: [67.84.102.29] From: David Grego To: Subject: RE: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 04:08:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> References: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2009 04:08:14.0274 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7BA9A20:01C9CBA4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 04:13:15 +0000 (UTC) --_b6c9ae5f-b32b-421c-a3c0-09261f979b7d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for sharing Zoe. That clip was informative=2C insightful and down= -right wonderful. Congrats! David _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE goes with you.=20 http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutor= ial_Mobile1_052009= --_b6c9ae5f-b32b-421c-a3c0-09261f979b7d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for sharing Zoe. That clip was informative=2C insightful and down= -right wonderful. Congrats! David



Hotmail=AE goes wi= th you. Get it on your Blac= kBerry or iPhone. = --_b6c9ae5f-b32b-421c-a3c0-09261f979b7d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 3 04:57:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 357CD3BE7E; Sun, 3 May 2009 04:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 610 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 03 May 2009 04:57:13 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-1024134620 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.4) Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 21:18:59 -0700 References: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.4) X-Server-Quench: 71777875-379d-11de-aecc-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVefTcfFhpo UEhAUlJXHgFvCxwD SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB4 ekRnXHVEXAokcUV5 GRIvRm0ObG5jay4d VUheOQRVdwRNdhhA d1N4XScQYGRTM2cx EgQ4emhpZGUAcSkE GVkDcUQoTBRDAD8w ShdKHDMzEFcbRigs ZxsgYl4bAw4Qekk1 eVo9HRoFK1cbFkVB HltADEdz X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: <_i6nxD.A.2bD.pQS_JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 04:57:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-1024134620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm really grateful to Dylan Tweney at Wired for being interested to =20 begin with! On May 2, 2009, at 9:08 PM, David Grego wrote: > Thank you for sharing Zoe. That clip was informative, insightful and =20= > down-right wonderful. Congrats! David > > > > Hotmail=AE goes with you. Get it on your BlackBerry or iPhone. --Apple-Mail-8-1024134620 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm really grateful to Dylan = Tweney at Wired for being interested to begin with!

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= --Apple-Mail-8-1024134620-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 3 05:49:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118FE3BE7E; Sun, 3 May 2009 05:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.61.139] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000501c9cb5c$b8583cb0$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> <46de528565773af16c124ca413dec77f@charter.net> <000601c9cb6d$48012c40$6b903547@YOUR08D5303051> <53717f0dad1dc11500234f6c7aff1218@charter.net> Subject: Re: OT: Re: test Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 23:49:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2009 05:49:30.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED7E62B0:01C9CBB2] Resent-Message-ID: <7Z8suC.A.ZFF.qBT_JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 05:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Now that I'm back from vacation, I will get on the recordings and start making them available in the next week. They should be really interesting...many great performances this year. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > JD, > > I'm feeling some better. > > My son seems to have a milder case . . . so far. > > As for BEMF/B-CIMF last weekend they usually do recording straight from > the board. > > Aaron Davis runs the live sound expertly and handles the recording too. > > Eventually, he'll trim out the individual performances as he has time and > Krispen will post them. > > I wouldn't look for anything for at least a few weeks, maybe a month. > > They're very busy guys . . . and due for a little rest. > > Get well soon Mr. Duke! > > TK > > On May 2, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> yeah, i hate being sick! As you already know, it sucks. How ya feeling >> now? I hope your son recovers quickly also. Oops! this isn't facebook, my >> bad! >> /shifting to relevent mode: >> When are we gonna get to see/hear BEMF? 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I'm really grateful to Dylan Tweney at Wired for being = interested to begin with!

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 03:20:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51B983BE87; Mon, 4 May 2009 03:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241407256; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=/edzoYuyn17WXm8KeqcX/R+khdQ=; b=U0Y5r7M64iMo9J2InCchLgbU5PuiNcJR+suHfS3WXria2MMkjj0mPLUmYKdrMRKK 7t7lXL125mUqaQYR+tKrC12irgyE77jVzgulRedsgP9bNM4BdQKp6dowCCbMfJZW; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nS36O97Bj3wUElCrIrAA:9 a=WSUfejPYnVaDIwHsvJh5HpFP3bwA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: test Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:22:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 03:20:57 +0000 (UTC) test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 09:21:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3ABFB3BE81; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3KcdjHxdqvFNNcbHh+GLjr5N5/xwo0BldNV6kInOoGw=; b=mIhAUZGKYUxOrXkVQlySOFh5cuW2jD4EMlrrORPFRvTxsDTO1U1eP9nuTuupN6ecuk zkKMcyOHJq6dJevPYOC57JwyrNAjs8WD5IHbbghrwm+mfqiquc5kvqObUdXW9oAo7ilw xDpDBYRRkWbc09nNUvlIGyfpL9myU92hU+jyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ebm2ljvWwyPUhg6GS7O95D4x1j4CcXhFaefZ1p++T4MqgPhHmyloYswDJOb3jqf/5b KFtyBjKhSBjyDqDopmnGYIqKDs0tqpgsWSrII+rzI29M+RcuyhswsQcBppBv8QGvTnxJ sYWRwGODth4d+e09KDht4cptBDnC3nvsxDEf4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:21:18 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905040221y64d1f19bi70f0d2f4a74be975@mail.gmail.com> Subject: The Bacterial Orchestra - "intelligent", "darwinistic" generative music iPhone appl From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:21:19 +0000 (UTC) http://www.bacterialorchestra.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 14:50:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD54D3BE79; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: test Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 07:50:41 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, Still receiving . . . For some reason activity is down on the list. Either everyone is off over at FaceBook . . . or they're sick with the flu. I haven't seen the level of dialog ebb this low in a long time . . . and I've been on the list since '96. Oh well. Get well soon Jeff. Best, Ted On May 3, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > test > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 15:06:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0F4C3BE7E; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HEKguW9zi9IyvbspSI5UFqx0Il9ErDfFbzfd+avmrBo=; b=oAZsD2VNUQMwCFIC1vrzgmIyGPT6GuU9uku+D2qo+cFqBkCTg93nM7/Hb7yjNAkB5A gHF54PfpE9Z1WOIfbBla7WVt/4LLfUuJSb80kJGWlrYGo0gdS02Gwopt50QJ2fQmYjIy n3M4YckIQlWNWTnHZhM/nO7C3eXJ2EBAhdFXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BXPCHS/k6dEK4Vktar+4kndga8MMJPZbxMbYEnaIyXdu2eiBmRZfCsqRH+H0qZEPDB BAE5Lup9Gq30VSgTfMuWErbTdFQ4ZBJemh2VVkDKwAGCK3GYTRzWxN2jfvQOJXQmjn3O 3Mvx7Ntp9yKuykbpXh6E7IkJ0aKAh38b7IKjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:06:42 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905040806j4113eda0y86c3618c8cc2177d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: test From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b6da8b32540469178277 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:06:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b6da8b32540469178277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm here as well - I'm new to FB and it does feel I was the last to swim fo= r shore there so think Ted is accurate in that apprasial. Wash hands wash hands wash hands j On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Jeff, > > Still receiving . . . > > For some reason activity is down on the list. > > Either everyone is off over at FaceBook . . . or they're sick with the > flu. > > I haven't seen the level of dialog ebb this low in a long time . . . and > I've been on the list since '96. > > Oh well. > > Get well soon Jeff. > > Best, > > Ted > > > On May 3, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > test >> >> > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b6da8b32540469178277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm here as well - I'm new to FB and it does feel I was the la= st to swim for shore there so think Ted is accurate in that apprasial.
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Wash hands wash hands wash hands
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j

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn= <tedkillian= @charter.net> wrote:
Jeff,

Still receiving . .= .

For some reason activity is down on the list.

Either every= one is off over at FaceBook =A0. . . or they're sick with the flu.

I haven't seen the level of dialog ebb this low in a long time . . = . and I've been on the list since '96.

Oh well.

Get w= ell soon Jeff.

Best,

Ted


On May 3, 2009, at 8:22 P= M, Jeff Duke wrote:

test





--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming= soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5b6da8b32540469178277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 15:08:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 804223BE80; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241449710; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=qh/DvKvY3HGXdXGBYQDDtjCgmdw=; b=Ef7AsVZdqnbO9tYqELYKnOtfbhoLBrlNMfVapmsaAhPASk6VPUTUy+p5saCmGQLy Xthlczaydn7sRd3PnQriq9ELh1Ha6ImAQ0f6G8C8YGOf6oDwyzerEtIiwgffwZVp; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=AWYL3f315ZjGvT9RFYYA:9 a=HnGgTxpajhYcusRq99UA:7 a=_irAnGMISqkxG3b8XF6xt9_kgmsA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9ccca$2ef79f50$04000100@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: test Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:08:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) thanks Ted, I am feeling much better. hmm, facebook has taken over? activity is high over there..hehe. I thought I had been unsubscribed again. I am sort of glad I waited anyway as I am now on justin.tv. The high quality, stereo!, encoder works very well over there. So I have switched. I was not too thrilled with the low quality mono audio at ustream and the encoder kept crashing. It also has some other cool video fx that I am getting up to speed on. See ya at Facebook1 best, jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: test > Jeff, > > Still receiving . . . > > For some reason activity is down on the list. > > Either everyone is off over at FaceBook . . . or they're sick with the > flu. > > I haven't seen the level of dialog ebb this low in a long time . . . and > I've been on the list since '96. > > Oh well. > > Get well soon Jeff. > > Best, > > Ted > > > On May 3, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> test >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 15:10:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 725173BE7E; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241449855; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=tL6VxY2O1PheZDfL0u6N/Dl2cL0=; b=jzSbdCs+N0VJ21TundfrS+B0ZASe7m04ToouzLrqweiMmZamxSNMTVkY0Eoe0pRI pDtU4l2/QVV4sY5xXge4n8JLTSneVHbKYRw3e4TgTr5oGWNbtgCLv1+uE/sFNuZK; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=ESmLK0fAuKINJ12fyREA:9 a=0h0bl5aJOa6MibS-CTcA:7 a=Ufl3HkJmca9ffPXNdj02TwyPDvkA:4 a=Q-HI_so7LLUA:10 a=kZDQ2csh-oYA:10 a=hM5H0qCC1cEA:10 a=6a87xeWvXnEA:10 a=hPofd1mmkRAA:10 a=1qT6d28NYfsA:10 a=pufoRJSiRt4A:10 a=K8sKunsjz6wA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=t4fEMkN2Tb8A:10 a=HKjzKo7LuBcA:10 a=j1JV5d43ytUA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=AqyD-l7JG-z9sZAe-v0A:9 a=eZLvlI7H1TKtGPjvk9UA:7 a=3UnAvmpSQ8_TkDCyeQtH6kHmhEsA:4 a=2c7NB83bEJEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001301c9ccca$85b39a10$04000100@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60905040806j4113eda0y86c3618c8cc2177d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: test Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:10:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9CCA8.FE3DBA00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <0PpEsB.A.rF.AWw_JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:10:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9CCA8.FE3DBA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey Jim, I guess we could go off topic for awhile, maybe a book thread = or politics? No ones here to mind the store..:) peace, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: test I'm here as well - I'm new to FB and it does feel I was the last to = swim for shore there so think Ted is accurate in that apprasial. Wash hands wash hands wash hands j On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = wrote: Jeff, Still receiving . . . For some reason activity is down on the list. Either everyone is off over at FaceBook . . . or they're sick with = the flu. I haven't seen the level of dialog ebb this low in a long time . . . = and I've been on the list since '96. Oh well. Get well soon Jeff. Best, Ted On May 3, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: test --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9CCA8.FE3DBA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey Jim, I guess we could go off topic = for awhile,=20 maybe a book thread or politics? No ones here to mind the = store..:)
 
peace,
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 = 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: test

I'm here as well - I'm new to FB and it does feel I was the last = to swim=20 for shore there so think Ted is accurate in that apprasial.
 
Wash hands wash hands wash hands
 
j

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM, tEd =AE = KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>=20 wrote:
Jeff,

Still=20 receiving . . .

For some reason activity is down on the=20 list.

Either everyone is off over at FaceBook  . . . or = they're=20 sick with the flu.

I haven't seen the level of dialog ebb = this low in=20 a long time . . . and I've been on the list since '96.

Oh=20 well.

Get well soon = Jeff.

Best,

Ted


On May=20 3, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

test




--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey = coming=20 soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm= usic
www.myspace.com/chinap= aintingmusic
www.myspace.com/ji= mgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm= usic

video=20 work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9CCA8.FE3DBA00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 15:14:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB94E3BE7C; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=4FNmlNWCctCW3NGTTz+BqCJ86dr5jKx3pIQAnOKR9C4=; b=uAmqSsbBfZUOaaroT12e+5gxKi9NKw4vt23ts1ohlT7snjQBIUgSRamc0hLFnmFHUX cDOExNvRBqu2ZA6Xoj2+Z+VDvOACHTHmY1AVE5g2PzlW7uYM1J27D7DPAShUrlVd8pU8 hGqe4YkFNsV/TJjCIeweHiDoUAb5J9OiG0QzI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=S5t4U3+s4E/ndebzB41C88JB/61eDpYoEEn2Ob6+/x+mdKTEd44oEsiQHFkh8Dx45W u+6rbhVfgJ7AMyroX/o3JNX+BNxyGktZn0IpVZ4NgWhueRmfr4f6qNXuL4tor1gb12Ik glteeU+mxKBTcNCffWeguAOY1ZXFrOpH7xrzg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:20 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905040814w295feaeeh7be000566d4b4e55@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Re: was test now live web sources From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a9ffe169c60469179d91 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:14:21 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a9ffe169c60469179d91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit True sounds like you're feeling better. Interested about the other live site I need to chk out though ustream for me worked pretty well other than my own user errors re switching my audio on the fly. There was supposed to be some kind of issue with the Mac isight camera that I'm using but it was seamless for me once I accept the Flash dialog. HOw are the ad placements on justin? j --001636c5a9ffe169c60469179d91 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
True sounds like you're feeling better.=A0 Interested about the ot= her live site I need to chk out though ustream for me worked pretty well ot= her than my own user errors re switching my audio on the fly.=A0 There was = supposed to be some kind of issue with the Mac isight camera that I'm u= sing but it was seamless for me once I accept the Flash dialog.
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--001636c5a9ffe169c60469179d91-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 15:26:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3982D3BE82; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1241450795; bh=ROSmtNzRJzR7tprU0J0N0G56q775K4TM33g3ebKJXAM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FlCXXVpv0gHN7wM/8dG/WG/igj2dtso+wwwb9dkv9KlgHLULVZkweDs1CN6kwdVKbIPMhF/9P83u1YKhYnpaJgatZzPgJaKDB4e1OmpLSwkKhDVvVZ75guEf9crGVp/u4/mom4IXXZlBAkesXqvC8lywTgwFzE4TmZBwzoPljF4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z45QxLseaVhoLB6oGGrj/+Q2rdoH1Xyp4cBYF9kc3ofs/f20drZ/1aHc3lmKpfqvRv6dqT8KlnsU3A0YSgQQEEtNq9kket/3UZnM6Z/5LIiQVTs8n58zvMZCr+K0dDG2NpIa1rnEUN2qNsTmOsTNoFPdGZ424Ky/dFXPs0emHY0=; Message-ID: <901820.98066.qm@web87102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OxebUvgVM1nndxzt9hhzaZ0QsBbk7AkLxm.w6fPemYtQp5M7JKNWuUtnhH2e27ykhhCJcK971pF1o1Kl1OjK.OawonnEUiKTeAmLuuoUFNQ5zBrN_dcHgQk4TfMyz3t2MmGTs2Tt5IBqYs7PKfqIfGUaTqG6VWGeeyfPjaAa.VSbFFnFg5uDSwS853rkV6df.nsvITzrbYiZCv4FkHeEf1yvyueXa2CsiCW6lVgDxg9fNaG59eSZ4aKJOQq65QtLSEnLCOuoW38iGYpt87_kHyEtndGjlzP72N.NOTzplExR78S4SJZwTnsN2yrWXcqleZrVt1P_33s4ttJ1pl2QPA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:26:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Richard Graham Reply-To: rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com Subject: Re: The Bacterial Orchestra - "intelligent", "darwinistic" generative music iPhone appl To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905040221y64d1f19bi70f0d2f4a74be975@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1820653143-1241450795=:98066" Resent-Message-ID: <6I3Ep.A.8n.tkw_JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:26:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-1820653143-1241450795=:98066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did not enjoy that at all. Humans are more interesting. Burn your iPhone. --- On Mon, 4/5/09, Per Boysen wrote: From: Per Boysen Subject: The Bacterial Orchestra - "intelligent", "darwinistic" generative = music iPhone appl To: "Loopers-Delight" Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 10:21 AM http://www.bacterialorchestra.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --0-1820653143-1241450795=:98066 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I did not enjoy that at all. Humans are more = interesting. Burn your iPhone.

--- On Mon, 4/5/09, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
From= : Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Subject: The Bacterial Orchestr= a - "intelligent", "darwinistic" generative music iPhone appl
To: "Loop= ers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Monday, 4= May, 2009, 10:21 AM

http://www.bacterialorchestra.com/

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Greetings from Sweden

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--0-1820653143-1241450795=:98066-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 15:55:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A32393BE7F; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:55:52 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: test MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.85 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:55:54 +0000 (UTC) > I haven't seen the level of dialog ebb this low in a long time . . . > and I've been on the list since '96. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 16:09:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BE0C3BE7C; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KBIpSDTqA+Db++8QUgbf3ObMajCWCpRNAzb5Q4tHlYs=; b=gt8qhhN56+HtVqWq+Ve7ooafvmXLQhOIvCndWL1OmSMdtnx4D9tjcMcaPp8tvxQ8dn XZRa28Q47jdDBPXuYKtphPHMCwoFTrlQVrIBxcTDfWrfi3l1laeUQTrtGFQHMwt57KOm gSGtk2+HgEdOZQHkAUKQFGrlI1OZUg6jDC3tw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PoqBaMiNXzI1J8qPs+dMHUw4+eWNaYAmzhGfoBPaIaGPMYGYefj09o7JWM1LcHj2pN PvOE1+w2NwYw9hQPOQRC2Ztt9m2jN8J0skjZCZVLsVHlWr8Vv2H5vp17edek0IgRG45K Wa9j1yr/5v4QdiDiP/PjMabRNAsGjUsAZTzWo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <901820.98066.qm@web87102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905040221y64d1f19bi70f0d2f4a74be975@mail.gmail.com> <901820.98066.qm@web87102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:09:37 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905040909k70cba921o96344db839dbebfc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: The Bacterial Orchestra - "intelligent", "darwinistic" generative music iPhone appl From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:09:38 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Richard Graham wrote: > I did not enjoy that at all. Humans are more interesting. Burn your iPhone. He, he... I enjoyed the video for the same reason - the humans. To me it looks like some sort of bizarre ritual... gathering in a circle, holding out similar gadgets towards the center. And the sounds those "intelligent" mobiles make "en masse" is just so funny ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 17:29:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95A6B3BE79; Mon, 4 May 2009 17:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:19:43 EDT Subject: el chepo headphones To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c8d.43c4a116.37307daf_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:29:07 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c8d.43c4a116.37307daf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i ordered a set of headphones a few days ago......they came today and i am more than pleased.....they came from THE SPEAKER COMPANY.....HDPro 7.....$79.00 but they had a 50% off thingie at the site so $39.00 and this included shipping, plus an 8 foot cable with a 3.5 mm plug and a coiled cable with a 1/4" plug.....sweet.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** 2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE! 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Humans are more interesting. Burn your iP= hone. >=20 > He, he... I enjoyed the video for the same reason - the humans. To me > it looks like some sort of bizarre ritual... gathering in a circle, > holding out similar gadgets towards the center. And the sounds those > "intelligent" mobiles make "en masse" is just so funny ;-)) >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 17:46:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DE153BE80; Mon, 4 May 2009 17:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241459187; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=39Umof5ZY75XJXGtPewadNABNXY=; b=LNZX55V/wyjPpXfyds9mQInoiW/7pyPEA4dvtjb9XsxcrhwifSWMDBsnvGz8OV1T kIxh40/K3AkZGcQXiwb00dur7/2M+UuGJjDLqX0IcsmzkLZJ2+JIbju0V5EpK1L0; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Q2uioC6CntCVagE-YoUA:9 a=oZn6ejy1Uta6mQbDzXgA:7 a=Oz5O6BRg40C_mKzLBn590-dZeWgA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=bTC9JKwROsJcm2-6afYA:9 a=atyPARDcas9SVDUESV8A:7 a=kVnTD9ZbT3z7xlWK5r-5IDLGo50A:4 a=2c7NB83bEJEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c9cce0$3fd84b10$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60905040814w295feaeeh7be000566d4b4e55@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: was test now live web sources Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:46:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9CCBE.B84D0E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:46:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9CCBE.B84D0E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ads are about the same on justin, it's free so it's cool. Stereo is so = much better for me though. i am addicted to my Alesis stuff! now I need = a Vortex! the high quality audio/video FME works very well on justin. I = will be awhile before I try it again though. Other pressing affairs :) Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:14 AM Subject: OT: Re: was test now live web sources True sounds like you're feeling better. Interested about the other = live site I need to chk out though ustream for me worked pretty well = other than my own user errors re switching my audio on the fly. There = was supposed to be some kind of issue with the Mac isight camera that = I'm using but it was seamless for me once I accept the Flash dialog. HOw are the ad placements on justin? j ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9CCBE.B84D0E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ads are about the same on justin, it's = free so it's=20 cool. Stereo is so much better for me though. i am addicted to my Alesis = stuff!=20 now I need a Vortex! the high quality audio/video FME works very well on = justin.=20 I will be awhile before I try it again though. Other pressing affairs=20 :)
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 = 11:14 AM
Subject: OT: Re: was test now = live web=20 sources

True sounds like you're feeling better.  Interested about = the other=20 live site I need to chk out though ustream for me worked pretty well = other=20 than my own user errors re switching my audio on the fly.  There = was=20 supposed to be some kind of issue with the Mac isight camera that I'm = using=20 but it was seamless for me once I accept the Flash dialog.
 
HOw are the ad placements on justin?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9CCBE.B84D0E40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 18:22:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA6313BE80; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=x+3oU1smIFEVM4QITBE5A4gHNdqJy7v9rxCYs1nF0lI=; b=gsU9Zg+GL/0z/cm08pYftu4nZ9aJNOz+9uhGkamVoLSIT2wIKq+vD1zJ6HG12vwKR2 zoRwjXvA1BT/NeDeDG+olELjBc/0Qii4Psei0I2rdNxwhxqAjyqnVlT3GO4rsV1eoxLd UDFMbcfpk5+t/kgbBLd4SZAq1ZaxMB2NTAqR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G9IqXARESPpb+46aSRhp19ztXFrWX0YhgWfnOuFMoDYqUi8khoY7Z+6LM1WggHGyTc joVazRP4VqhTbujWyr6lUNnB3BbRSFvpVzvKeB8ZSniUCluDDZv8Jy5BanaMAZbuQCdw y8L+CYF7n3T9/VXa0e9tX0q/UFW2I/5tKd+aM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001301c9ccca$85b39a10$04000100@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60905040806j4113eda0y86c3618c8cc2177d@mail.gmail.com> <001301c9ccca$85b39a10$04000100@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:22:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905041122q3fded0adq86dae2eaefe34fc4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: test From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_eXPLB.A.fGD.VJz_JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:22:13 +0000 (UTC) How about all those gritty Jim Thompson novels? I'm diggin' on the cover of "Ghe Alcoholics". Super-deranged. Almost like SUS mode, chop, chop of the sympathetic ganglions. Ganglionic Chop Chop really sums it up. 8-) On 5/4/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > > > hey Jim, I guess we could go off topic for awhile, maybe a book thread or > politics? No ones here to mind the store..:) > > peace, > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 20:07:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 317DA3BE80; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241467666; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=DkTUo0TXFh/hcPcbtj386p7FCkg=; b=P27NhSJm4NhnNuQcowYc/ZI1xnG75H8XfCsfxSQAc8/XZdu9j99ov4HHa2bZ5TIr /9LbpAO2NRIHbEKKhU7kYyV3wr3tY0ED/EGun/YHTEi0G4RNwZPgepB7g9nSb3XC; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=gu6Uk6WldaQWm2_vUrMA:9 a=u2kMHeJ7RyH0Z6LgKLgHfLmfiKMA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c9ccf3$fd59a680$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60905040806j4113eda0y86c3618c8cc2177d@mail.gmail.com> <001301c9ccca$85b39a10$04000100@YOUR08D5303051> <3fa302e30905041122q3fded0adq86dae2eaefe34fc4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: test Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:07:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:07:47 +0000 (UTC) I will check this out Miko, Super deranged works for me! TV bad, books good! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miko Biffle" To: Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:22 PM Subject: Re: test > How about all those gritty Jim Thompson novels? I'm diggin' on the > cover of "Ghe Alcoholics". Super-deranged. Almost like SUS mode, > chop, chop of the sympathetic ganglions. Ganglionic Chop Chop really > sums it up. 8-) > > On 5/4/09, Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> >> hey Jim, I guess we could go off topic for awhile, maybe a book thread or >> politics? No ones here to mind the store..:) >> >> peace, >> >> Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 21:11:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 148E93BE80; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241471486; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=7BqsfJBXEjUn8N7Ghmt9r3k+fCE=; b=Bja6ychTTBBeQzkP2lcLFBBhyuC7+CCPX8+Fv5eSHaDsGIAURL+5ZDNTgQPJYWFm 9q31FikwPCJWJne4lEc6yfywyIuzcII93X7uHwPrNnWYvghDDvHnb3G0uDqZ3iU+; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=nEJoZ4RnAAAA:8 a=MP_20UxOAAAA:8 a=TyWGM-0wAAAA:8 a=gqugArwIKX3eqk7cM1MA:9 a=qkdRWEkVNSTVpfZvCKkA:7 a=vva5IXOaEUTZUEB5hrxvmdfwWl0A:4 a=rZftM7ydEjMA:10 a=1BeEXqUnHnUA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=Luv2J8y95riNmgV0:21 a=SZGOoI7E0HmLrkts:21 a=V91oXHpLPS2uNnwZEIAA:7 a=40LnZ0PGrHKlIW1rauhcHczO1dUA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001c01c9ccfc$e23aa990$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: el chepo headphones Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:11:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C9CCDB.5A907310" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:11:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C9CCDB.5A907310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dammit man! where are these great deals when I want headphones, grrr j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: el chepo headphones i ordered a set of headphones a few days ago......they came today and = i am more than pleased.....they came from THE SPEAKER COMPANY.....HDPro = 7.....$79.00 but they had a 50% off thingie at the site so $39.00 and = this included shipping, plus an 8 foot cable with a 3.5 mm plug and a = coiled cable with a 1/4" plug.....sweet.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** 2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus = FREE! = (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir=3D= https:%2F%2Fwww.freescore.com%2FOffers%2FStart%2FFreeCreditReportAndScore= .aspx%3FID%3D91831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872%26siteid%3De927580bf7) ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C9CCDB.5A907310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dammit man! where are these great deals = when I want=20 headphones, grrr
 
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nemoguitt@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:19 = PM
Subject: el chepo = headphones

i ordered a set of headphones a few days = ago......they came today and i am more than pleased.....they came from = THE=20 SPEAKER COMPANY.....HDPro 7.....$79.00 but they had a 50% off thingie = at the=20 site so $39.00 and this included shipping, plus an 8 foot cable with a = 3.5 mm=20 plug and a coiled cable with a 1/4"=20 plug.....sweet.....:)m



"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS=20 WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy tunes=20 = at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com




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2009 3 Free = CREDIT=20 SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE!=20 = (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir=3D= https:%2F%2Fwww.freescore.com%2FOffers%2FStart%2FFreeCreditReportAndScore= .aspx%3FID%3D91831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872%26siteid%3De927580bf7)=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C9CCDB.5A907310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 21:19:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 509DD3BE79; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 377 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 04 May 2009 21:19:41 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FvwIl/D0vHYWZpMalrLXwvND0OZpwEc7OZ5jKuNLfeQ=; b=N+zbZ2Ol3tjtb0VgqPVjdtDIKYCVcQIBDOKlMlf5eXhOOc40XsGbb9Bgq5nYFEm8T2 A+e+YlVfgGycyTuMwJnmeWCgZOuQqo6wH/ZW8ZCgvIclwxfk5nWO5Eu5nK/PPKCmqUJb MA2TxCMe4B4d1pPDPNvCekv1RtLZqQzS2+v+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=hwSddLV7NXXTQz8SIF9SkmZIdBxz5pVz3h6gjedsHm3K4cfqyXydS5YpYtTaQCgXS5 PPouE27p2LXaxzoamSlCFSJrUD0TU68QXi6HDGKJL3EBWtL7C6VRhWz9vAeHMuOjxdoH QeK0CQsXhWpJlxnpFawIgeVcfkF7Nq2IAXsXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000801c9ccf3$fd59a680$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60905040806j4113eda0y86c3618c8cc2177d@mail.gmail.com> <001301c9ccca$85b39a10$04000100@YOUR08D5303051> <3fa302e30905041122q3fded0adq86dae2eaefe34fc4@mail.gmail.com> <000801c9ccf3$fd59a680$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:13:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: test From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7439e7464104691ca1a4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:19:42 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7439e7464104691ca1a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think all this talk about books and iPhones is wholly unsuitable for a looping list...desist at once, or i shall flame thee! :O) >> >>> >>> hey Jim, I guess we could go off topic for awhile, maybe a book thread or >>> politics? No ones here to mind the store..:) >>> >>> peace, >>> >>> Jeff >>> >> >> > --0016364c7439e7464104691ca1a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i think all this talk about books and iPhones is wholly unsuitable for a lo= oping list...desist at once, or i shall flame thee!

:O)





hey Jim, I guess we could go off topic for awhile, maybe a book thread or politics? No ones here to mind the store..:)

peace,

Jeff



--0016364c7439e7464104691ca1a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 21:24:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A04FC3BE7C; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241472253; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=laW5EJUPdfGj/2LMEMcEFnz0a+s=; b=c7oOMeMNKf3TwQp2jMR8xTkOLZJ4MXk8ZaSSKMdTq5wLvh4RrykxMGxdzbAgY7D8 LWGIKy0CaRknR1LN3rj7UdvQOgYyNoFgZ+GzH5rc7P29Wj8jndf3oXAyUbAa2ErR; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=0o7kkSvUC7LQT1PPKAYA:9 a=t2bCovNyTafz_xjHWctT3HZulcoA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=DSBE6zHAOLfuhcdWSR8A:9 a=0f0RNUuCi5vRQmW3IVYA:7 a=4l4jNLALgHgpobV9jXgewKUTpK4A:4 a=gFJNk4JfIVsA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01c9ccfe$ab2ecba0$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60905040806j4113eda0y86c3618c8cc2177d@mail.gmail.com> <001301c9ccca$85b39a10$04000100@YOUR08D5303051> <3fa302e30905041122q3fded0adq86dae2eaefe34fc4@mail.gmail.com> <000801c9ccf3$fd59a680$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: test Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:24:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9CCDD.23B6A1A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:24:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9CCDD.23B6A1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A voice of reason at last! I feel like one of the kids in Lord of the = Flies when the adults come back to the island.=20 thanks, J ;>) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Simeon Harris=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: Re: test i think all this talk about books and iPhones is wholly unsuitable for = a looping list...desist at once, or i shall flame thee! :O) hey Jim, I guess we could go off topic for awhile, maybe a book = thread or politics? No ones here to mind the store..:) peace, Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9CCDD.23B6A1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A voice of reason at last! I feel like = one of the=20 kids in Lord of the Flies when the adults come back to the island. =
 
thanks,
 
J ;>)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Simeon Harris
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:13 = PM
Subject: Re: test

i think all this talk about books and iPhones is wholly = unsuitable for a looping list...desist at once, or i shall flame=20 thee!

:O)





hey=20 Jim, I guess we could go off topic for awhile, maybe a book = thread=20 or
politics? No ones here to mind the=20 = store..:)

peace,

Jeff


=

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9CCDD.23B6A1A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 21:28:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D426E3BE7E; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mPbTWp3zGMKTXfIXdv14QHKH/f+legAphPGuQRJLAGg=; b=r1hMoK4dklPp2yk9mKV06DNFx8WBMh30MV7Zzt15lhBRV7vnQN+LMWFt0aYtwkw/+2 vBDZi/4eb+f/lH91h28FDfUEAMKICDcGE/CjqR2EtqCxXucMZZZAkfBHepeoHXbiLMqA 6kV1OnDOMPWRBi/mgkcGOF3Dre1YlGdEMHVBc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=BTXT7SOnwwgKYBP9ynJFePKRBDqKwZD0Zv432DSjzhipfP7eYy0ewrbmuoA0tGxVwu ZEVjYwBCQatUDvJLWQtb+r1BVndrlgFDSIJmNnk54ddczW1JbeQbqClwtxqKFzpwq9j1 w3pW8hPsh4gM91xUxFdrvXyOej5/mFnN77pjc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000c01c9ccfe$ab2ecba0$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000501c9cc67$9f760720$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60905040806j4113eda0y86c3618c8cc2177d@mail.gmail.com> <001301c9ccca$85b39a10$04000100@YOUR08D5303051> <3fa302e30905041122q3fded0adq86dae2eaefe34fc4@mail.gmail.com> <000801c9ccf3$fd59a680$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01c9ccfe$ab2ecba0$b3913547@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:28:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: test From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d2369fb29df04691cd6b5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:28:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d2369fb29df04691cd6b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit any more heads on spikes and you'll be to bed with no tea, young man On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > A voice of reason at last! I feel like one of the kids in Lord of the > Flies when the adults come back to the island. > > thanks, > > J ;>) > --0016364d2369fb29df04691cd6b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable any more heads on spikes and you'll be to bed with no tea, young man
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embar= qmail.com> wrote:
A voice of reason at last! I feel like= one of the=20 kids in Lord of the Flies when the adults come back to the island. <= /div>
=A0
thanks,
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J ;>)

--0016364d2369fb29df04691cd6b5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 4 21:30:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAFF13BE7F; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 04 May 2009 21:30:17 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1241472216; bh=iNx2q7cKuXmaeMtX6ixpCMHS9awF7qvT9uAz6ErN+40=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q5qTWHL7Ntrt4mEXZYVoE6b1fYRFwW+q5Ib7ziwxWPlzLivEsKQMECHyhnpAGIyARHrfzjawhIeiWVvKFD9LYEh44Bg3r5T3V7el3uH3Xmvk3xIpzU0zqt0dqjJlrrRxNrFRVT2ShMOCP4wwCDnBPIHs3PSt2AvyhU+zIfNBKvA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=arHPigGc+YCR3UlAtKUWJhP9nPSWoHAkgi4O1mWNjJEowKmXSpRHHnxN+AFkNR6FALZyE7PgfMVbtAkbJ0pLokF/7/+eO2UVJkwj/iEdkOWdJnTNQQxoBDgLixbNY1JrNYo98I5sdyZbimRFdWFXKVpsAYOWzgstJ/pqVXozBo4=; Message-ID: <774669.95063.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: oj2BQOwVM1mwsbMbsn8Zdh4pYDfYt4ZizQZHs7jVeO8zBrS5n5kXvIsOS2lsqqSOv5vkhTMcacZ.U9DMPj_nh7xTOiWVgT3Y67ea4mRzXSU__69c3g4MveIob4iWtUXVBpiYPlHgZ7d_QYw2rCRDQ9gOUeDQiEooKRd4ag_vLYMkrDa5BUj10kw5WAt6VA2VRYwFySX3GCPRWPlp_Vpc7G8WwxPYQT5a8m96o_2Z47TR3KUFTNxJDXJ_AHdqPBNm7.EtqfnlbpwzRq.WwrZ7Wz8rRSUg0xlcUXTTjoL1cRgneEcTLb3ZpN2eZg3LQqB57tiVi_ai0SSmmOj4ctYBDks- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:23:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: el chepo headphones To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1464898498-1241472216=:95063" Resent-Message-ID: <3qumLD.A.6ZD.p51_JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:30:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-1464898498-1241472216=:95063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I bought a pair of Behringer headphones a few years ago for around $30 or l= ess and, I have to admit, they sound pretty doggone good compared against a= $250=A0expensive pair of Sennheisers I also own. Behringer can be awful so= metimes but not on everything. =A0 Regards, Paul --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Jeff Duke wrote: From: Jeff Duke Subject: Re: el chepo headphones To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:11 PM Dammit man! where are these great deals when I want headphones, grrr =A0 j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: el chepo headphones i ordered a set of headphones a few days ago......they came today and i am = more than pleased.....they came from THE SPEAKER COMPANY.....HDPro 7.....$7= 9.00 but they had a 50% off thingie at the site so $39.00 and this included= shipping, plus an 8 foot cable with a 3.5 mm plug and a coiled cable with = a 1/4" plug.....sweet.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** 2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE= ! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir= =3Dhttps:%2F%2Fwww.freescore.com%2FOffers%2FStart%2FFreeCreditReportAndScor= e.aspx%3FID%3D91831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872%26siteid%3De927580bf7) =0A= =0A=0A --0-1464898498-1241472216=:95063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I bought a pair of Behringer headphones = a few years ago for around $30 or less and, I have to admit, they sound pre= tty doggone good compared against a $250 expensive pair of Sennheisers= I also own. Behringer can be awful sometimes but not on everything.
 
Regards, Paul

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@em= barqmail.com> wrote:

From: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
= Subject: Re: el chepo headphones
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:11 PM

Dammit man! where are these great deals wh= en I want headphones, grrr
 
j
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:19 PM
Subject: el chepo headphones

i ordered a set of headphones a few days= ago......they came today and i am more than pleased.....they came from THE= SPEAKER COMPANY.....HDPro 7.....$79.00 but they had a 50% off thingie at t= he site so $39.00 and this included shipping, plus an 8 foot cable with a 3= .5 mm plug and a coiled cable with a 1/4" plug.....sweet.....:)m


"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy = tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com




**************
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=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1464898498-1241472216=:95063-- From PayPal@olypepsi.com Mon May 4 23:47:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 744 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 04 May 2009 23:47:07 UTC Received: from olypepsi.com (50.36.232.64.transedge.com [64.232.36.50]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678B43BE77; Mon, 4 May 2009 23:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([89.211.33.141]) by olypepsi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 4 May 2009 16:34:20 -0700 From: Subject: Paypal Account has been locked ! Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 02:34:33 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2009 23:34:20.0919 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9832070:01C9CD10] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 = 6:29=20 PM
Subject: Finished EP!

Hi All,

I've just finished a new EP that I'd love some feedback on.

About 6 months ago as I took my first tentative steps into the = world of=20 looping and EDPs, you guys absolutely saved me from a chasm of = confusion! I=20 really can't thank you all enough, it simply would have been = impossible to=20 create this music without your help. Particularly I'd like to thank = Andy at SE=20 for repairing my first EDP, and Kim and Mathias for their swift and = useful=20 advice, and everybody else who put up with me whining about 'the = broken glass'=20 noise and/or 'how do you make logic and an EP do "insert stupid = question=20 here"!

All feedback good or bad would be wonderful, thanks again.

http://soundcloud.com/t= enmen/sets/tenmen

Daniel
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9CE98.55252BA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 03:44:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A7A63BE79; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1241667885; bh=4mboIxwszeWuUs3gInZq01LKTPT9wHePTYZ1haXqqa8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0DNC7D3d3W23F68BIA6XwX4H4Ej4l457rxFaMCx5xRGfyOEJZDxcD0yxuNFfuuYAro4yYfI8LHdpigiunq2owJe9ZFeeSSP5mf9JwbrDQTCSou32Akg60KOKzl2p5oQs68f6FbjrPcNOaeItLgt9epDqWOlBn6wIG4eCAsiYDrY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UeLWxL6EgkDbOz/163qKaJ4Q/BpzpA6QhOZ1b8RiuQBoHfWgyNvZ2dxuE3jX4nJ/fv1byFg1Sf8sAr8bm05wyI0gl6VSJBhYcaI6JzkeVIO95IZSsG4kgH8yGYUJMDzFaDax1RLdUcRWgx6cT+VvIHI++iaqo6HE10KN1/wcTr8=; Message-ID: <581154.54019.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8KFDYGkVM1leiS.OFAOJGSLHRIqyJtjXxVAlSlavijR8wBP3zxwpGUpj1WBSdnwVtmIFW59rOdSd4GaBx1husBLDtKFa33bhnr.hMjl.nGHmJChtgifzO84cabUa53Ij3Df7.zjeXdW88cuWOTXR4zNgjWHFJSFDMqemsCYRf85CltaUMCYSH5eegSoP9FBvjLncHeg2.dxICjsWucjriS7mVjJwcfUFJHkXR1y.3MRZ638i5zhw.RSI6xSYujuskJi1L2FJaIDoufBwaTJ_Q.5MDhgPdsnbF0wPttMbsa6_IwKcbmmmJ0LfeCRXrYXDHnG5H5ChKGxThZ1Vd0g59DZjCD8GnyX27mjOwBzmFChhMRJ0E0A- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:44:45 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: OT: creativity & education To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-253084690-1241667885=:54019" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 03:44:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-253084690-1241667885=:54019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just watched the bit of sir ted talking about creativity and education. pre= tty much a brilliant little talk. and funny. i thought he hit all the right points, talking about our education system.= =20 thanks for posting that whoever did. i learned something tonight. =A0 s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den =0A=0A=0A --0-253084690-1241667885=:54019 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= just watched the bit of sir ted talking about creativity and education. pre= tty much a brilliant little talk. and funny.

i thought he hit all the right points, talking about our education sys= tem.
thanks for posting that whoever did. i learned something tonight.

=0A=0A --0-253084690-1241667885=:54019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 04:22:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 313D03BE77; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=enw3XPqMlb0rdBth+p8pFfoIfaNX3op5PuYQqm0ln1o=; b=ShZHRN8hdjwmaNlWgzRB0xfZRaCKixh3p4IcdMtGHEUgE3vTyjwMclB/X8yDwcEnPk UNYNP8jEjMMbZAN8Tb7inm1g9RK7EYq/anja/dxD9svpLHvsQTCojDysyElIGZzyN868 zjx8QzhnoITptN8bVxf5JLJUR/dmeGf7qPoX8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FZj4B7QskLIcsVJZvM3nUIEuTahAeMFlyvpntnxHwHbDIYMC5owuIsxCWMwgco6qeb BuMwV5V+QhT4qZb6p4lBZ6ER1XL8XnTeIoDLyr/pwb/CmE8uy1DRG3ehCW0HbMSPT7Fg W/95Jzx+1tya4X65XeBjSqnod2N7z+tJfSbMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003e01c9ceb9$dd789a70$f5923547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <003e01c9ceb9$dd789a70$f5923547@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:22:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905062122l5fa8bf1fw7339af16fd652293@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Finished EP! From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 04:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Yep . . . totally diggin' this! -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 05:53:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 737A63BE7E; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 22:53:37 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , RICK WALKER , Y2K8 LOOPFEST email saves Subject: Re: vocal synthesis and processing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Dear Erdem, I second Buzaps glowing review of Melodyne. You can do really interesting things with that program and they even give you the ability to extract some 'fixed frequencies' from manipulated tracks and pitch them separately from the pitch content of the vocals (this works fantastically on percussion by the way..............creating naturalistic percussion tracks that feel, nonetheless, that they are from some ethnic culture from another planet: alien , yet organic.............one of my favorite qualities of new sound design. Additionally, here are several thoughts I've had about vocal use and vocal manipulation: 1) Take a look at the old stalwart, ReCycle, which was the program that caused the revolution in Drum and Bass.............designed to slice up drum tracks and then send each 'slice' to a sampler in a numbered and ordered set of samples that can then be retriggered in a midi program. You can also set your own slice points manually in such a program. Sometimes it is really cool to just take the very beginnings and endings of words, cut them up and separate them from the words they came from and put them in in unusual places during and over the track. 2) A lot of breath noises, ticks, inhalations, lip smacks, etc. can be fascinating spices for an unusual vocal track used as rhythmic elements outside of their normal context. 3) Tuareg is a wonderful standalone app for the PC that does very hip slicing and dicing of vocal tracks. Buy the $35 version and be glad you did. You'll thank me for this one! 4) Our very own Matthias Grob and Andy Butlers' ChoPitch is a fantastic manipulator of vocal tracks. I can't more highly recommend it. 5) You might reference the all acapella vocal CD I put out called Faux Voix. _* http://www.looppool.info/fauxvoix.html*_ The whole record is just an experimental exploration of vocals and computer generated vocals. I also really worked hard for almost two years to develop a whole new series of 'extended' vocal techniques, many of which I used on that record. 6) Heres' a vocal slice experiment from that recording: _* http://www.looppool.info/Chris_Slice_Funk.mp3*_ By saying this, I'm saying, use your own voice and see what odd things it can do. If you get over the weird feelings and the strange looks you get by making unusual sounds, there are hundreds of interesting sounds that can be made with the human voice and most people don't do it because it is too 'strange' for normal society. The beauty of all of these experiments is that all of these sounds are made with the vocal chords, the uvula, the lips, the teeth, the tongue and all the combed frequencies that one can achieve with these sounds because our throat is , essentially, a pipe. 6) I experimented with uvulal singing, overtone singing, noise manipulation, hum whistling, whistle humming (there is a difference, lol), trill singing, chest beaten harmonic manipulation, piccolo trumpet noises, kissing (which as Jeff Kaiser hipped me to, is high velocity inhalation, the opposite of how a trumpet is played), warble singings, physical object manipulation of voice (singing in and through things that effect the sound), growling, humming, trilling, etc. Here's an example of a live thing I did in concert from the Festival of Voice and Electronics utilizing some of those techniques. Everything you hear was made live in concert using only my voice. _* http://www.looppool.info/Faux_Voix_Composite.mp3 *_ 7) There are VST instruments out there that mimic the vocal formant frequencies of the human voice so that if you put other melodic material through it, it sounds LIKE a voice. 8) Vocoders also have this voice-esque quality on anything. Try Vocoding a different vocal..........in other words, use the voice to vocode a sample of a voice. You can get really cool results from trying to sing to lyrics in the exact same rhythm, but sing them with radically different styles or in different ranges.............then vocode one with the other. 9) Then there is the processing of the voice...............................I won't even go there........this post would go on forever. 10) Our own Cara Quinn hipped me to software that 'reads' websites to blind people. I did a couple pieces using that software. She and I used to exchange vocal generated compositions. One piece of software gave one the ability to download different voices from different cultures (the Brazillians pronounce Rs like Hs while the English pronounce Rs like, well, Rs) Many different cultures have radically different consonant sounds and different phonemic combinations vowel sounds. As an example, in Korean, there appears some syntactical rule that says , when you end a word with a long held out vowel sound that the pitch will pend down at the end of the word. Vowels representing combed filtered sine waves and Consonants representing various percussive and noise sounds, I typed hundreds of vowel combinations to try and extract simple melodies from them. I snipped anything that sounded melodic (like when you ask a question in English, the pitch goes up at the end of the question so it represents a simple melody, pitchwise) and put them in a folder. Later I went back and put many of them together to compose my melodies. Here's an example of that experiment: _*http://www.looppool.info/Sweeping_Mary.mp3 *_11) Also reference Michiko Kawagoe's brilliant work with an invented computer vocal languages Okee dokee, ..............these are the thoughts I've been having and wanting to write to you since I read your question to the group. be well, and good luck with the project..........congratulations! yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 06:07:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D01113BE7C; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A027A89.9070100@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:07:05 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Michael Norris's amazing website was 'vocal synthesis and processing ' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <51aYyB.A.FXB.JqnAKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen recommended this page for a suite of AU plugins for manipulating voice. _*http://www.michaelnorris.info/soundmagicspectral/index.html*_ I was blown away to find this resource. It's an amazing collection, but further on down the page I discovered even more amazing stuff: This guy has made javascript programs to locate 800 world music modes; _*http://www.michaelnorris.info/modes.html*_ javascript programs to find frequencies of the Harmonic series in different scales _*http://www.michaelnorris.info/harmcalc.html *_ javascript programs to convert frequency to pitch and vice versa. _*http://www.michaelnorris.info/freqtonote.html*_ and much more. This is a gold mine website of knowledge. This is my favorite find on the web in ages. Thanks so much to Per for recommending it and incredible thanks to Michael Morris for his genius and also his generosity in sharing these amazing tools with the world for free. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 06:33:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CE4C3BE80; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N6jT2cOngFFV58MFxy7Zez0GNYRzzyFqcS0eJ0ekN2o=; b=kl5rhaIVpxM5Ppc3QlORQmCQhLU9f3CZzF4TDFW3zUhBwFusD4jU0gFoF3j+tCpXXf hjrd0KYc8nx3e2Nowfe4VsbPN2/8GeW3dtQggIcT7+0p8ycsbIv7tWCv1vDeJiwSoA1v o8K8jyWcwP9V2A7/QFFCPEDpk9PaX5DRA8AMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pSo92vTsLp8aOw7i+n9YbcfbRr+Z3VCJOcRsaUx7YQeaw9caEdqUDYqnUrnvPr1H5C zaBuT8KffjiDuFVjc9RcyH8yjxdvog4U8jR5LOIHCj/XYaP651jW/ndMtYJe6lfV2Snw w38qsUcXvaIeNOR3Wmpsf/+j6uDkGAlbtouGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090506215910.83410@gmx.net> References: <20090506215910.83410@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:33:03 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905062333u7503c708t95c9cab97c8e7ca1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton: Send Midi CC in Loops? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:33:04 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > while sending normal MIDI notes in Ableton Live scenes is easy. I was wondering: How do you send midi CC commands? I guess you want to make the launching of a scene send out a MIDI CC event? The way to do it is to create a new MIDI clip as part of the scene and fill that clip with the CC you want sent out. As for the target, where to send it, you have to set that up by normal signal routing in Live (drop-down menu in the channel strips "Output" box.) > The idea is to trigger a loop in Ableton AND at the same time switch effect on effect pedal. Depending on what you mean you need either an effect pedal that can be switch on upon receiving the MIDI CC sent our from Live - or you need a MIDI CC sending pedal to send in a MIDI CC into Live (and then in Live you set both the effect plug-in and the clip, "the loop", to listen to that CC as the binding for launch trig). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 07:00:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E78FA3BE78; Thu, 7 May 2009 07:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8qvTFEYEtlfy44MGMrpROh5syhFLc9HzzfkA11VFqfc=; b=SqhVGPOXjlhmDHyE3W7kRYBjKsw2W+2inI1M5VqcTfDpo59EXdqraBTUeQ/+J6gVyi zCLAtZUtDhmeO8TzNtt9m3nUeNERdjBhdG9kmhj8HaLKixb0HDiXJSnlp36/jHCFIxtE axuR8taSlA7NNaqxComliAAyyo0rW4sR+OcTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AIhXJUReTozXASE4DEiVAPDYnjsW3OTjxPNVZzDZ97+mKMgLOWg8EJpv7O68B4rBtF W8wAxu+6Z/8vSdmdKmJPxxobCY+TXLU06hYEZhxFqIDHPRIW+ic9LtSATDlDSrxSICQO tPvwy50rg61loJrw8HvrTWyiNwlKETXchVGHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:00:25 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905070000v495040a2q97eab60a4e7451bb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Finished EP! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:00:27 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > I've just finished a new EP that I'd love some feedback on. > http://soundcloud.com/tenmen/sets/tenmen Exciting music! A nice listening experience to balance all the improvisation based stuff that has been spinning around here lately. I think it is a brilliant example of the concept of splicing together cool sounds, riffs and beats in an optimal way for the purpose of creating a recording as an ultimate statement. Someone called it "pop", but I do not agree with that because in order to be "pop" there should have been a stronger ambition to focus the expression - usually fronting the lead vocal melody and lyrics. There's no such focus strain in your stuff, since it rather hails the love for assembling lots of bizarre objects into one big explosion. And that's pretty cool IMHO :-) As an example, NiN traditionally shows a lot of the pop concept while King Crimson does not. And they both use musical components related to your palette. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 08:36:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72B2B3BE78; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Uz6vmZazJKHhbqds8Mn+lvnRnc7MG64D4aglKacDwSDBYDNan/WSOL4XerlNLTRfwS5+/JODcIr93mOxp8PnqOiAr9CjF4VksXOSsgvBjpeSqFsEgXlIikrLN3dOFswTEMj9P6rBJAO0mNiwplT68571bkPLopehpFJSizr/VBA= ; X-YMail-OSG: 45XMUBgVM1mYrV737iNCubMVKSDhiNdqPs1vdm7jetSWAB9Hk3pmv8vH_WII7QQqz9I8yqeul8RSZe4u1o3XmsNc91JbqZ070JVcidegdP8R8TgoEu_30Tg0qTBFGL0RWV_364a5gngpfuzoh3LO7VpSCqSlwIHxq2NOVVoEnOXEU506pVkP3ezMTjMrnZ4utmWmmyCDJfGEOZAVlzsdq2bakzGwzLIYnP4csS49aDzZyOzXsKTYh8Eia7ieapSIzG4Ol8oEntT0mDk_7NtbWlx14rSSUP22yH8NfVpdax2fN0opHEQ_rF68 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905070000v495040a2q97eab60a4e7451bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905070000v495040a2q97eab60a4e7451bb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--762279073 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Finished EP! Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:36:49 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:36:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--762279073 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Really like it - like a more poppy tool - have you got a website? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 7 May 2009, at 08:00, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Daniel Hegarty > wrote: >> I've just finished a new EP that I'd love some feedback on. >> http://soundcloud.com/tenmen/sets/tenmen > > Exciting music! A nice listening experience to balance all the > improvisation based stuff that has been spinning around here lately. I > think it is a brilliant example of the concept of splicing together > cool sounds, riffs and beats in an optimal way for the purpose of > creating a recording as an ultimate statement. Someone called it > "pop", but I do not agree with that because in order to be "pop" there > should have been a stronger ambition to focus the expression - > usually fronting the lead vocal melody and lyrics. There's no such > focus strain in your stuff, since it rather hails the love for > assembling lots of bizarre objects into one big explosion. And that's > pretty cool IMHO :-) > > As an example, NiN traditionally shows a lot of the pop concept while > King Crimson does not. And they both use musical components related to > your palette. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > --Apple-Mail-4--762279073 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi

Really like it =A0- like a more poppy tool - have = you got a website?

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 7 May 2009, = at 08:00, Per Boysen wrote:

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Daniel = Hegarty
I've = just finished a new EP that I'd love some feedback on.

Exciting music! A nice listening = experience to balance all the
improvisation = based stuff that has been spinning around here lately. I
think it is a brilliant example of the concept of = splicing together
cool sounds, riffs and beats in = an optimal way for the purpose of
creating a = recording as an ultimate statement. Someone called it
"pop", but I do not agree with that because in order = to be "pop" there
should have been a stronger = ambition to focus the expression=A0 = -
usually fronting the lead vocal = melody and lyrics. There's no such
focus strain = in your stuff, since it rather hails the love for
assembling lots of bizarre objects into one big = explosion. And that's
pretty cool IMHO = :-)

As an example, NiN traditionally shows a lot of the = pop concept while
King Crimson does not. And they = both use musical components related to
your = palette.

Greetings from Sweden

Per = Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

=

= --Apple-Mail-4--762279073-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 12:19:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 283BA3BE77; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:19:18 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905062333u7503c708t95c9cab97c8e7ca1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090507121918.29840@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090506215910.83410@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0905062333u7503c708t95c9cab97c8e7ca1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton: Send Midi CC in Loops? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+9BhJE3eC9ehP0/wfaHgfSQftfrHxu/DQH+TR6bw ij8yCilHp776xMXhlgL+/FtJ7yxuhtBj/Lrw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: /uM7f5NGeWUoKcF6iHRzIvkxU3U4N8/x X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Yes, it is about launching a MIDI clip which contains a midi CC as part of a Scene. I can trigger MIDI notes within an Ableton clip - but how do I get it to trigger CC commands? Of course, I could programm a MIDI CC send on an FCB1010, then record that in Ableton in a midi clip. But is there a way to do this with a mouse? best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 12:31:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41AE43BE84; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:31:29 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905061228q57a36010y8f8d8869741802ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090507123129.29840@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0905060643r7def4827w6f9ddbcb4073f746@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905061152h224f4d4cre79c55b330ab77a2@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905061228q57a36010y8f8d8869741802ca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: "MIDI looping" - Discrete Sequencing? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/HQTtYtLnHYcWd1HqGNEhjT8E5/rhtVGJv0+FxCy ru6NEXTo5nbr/WejfXU+qaKjXm8bKxS6VpYQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: lO06f5R4bmwoJdtpkzZLtv9PUzc4cpEH X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:31:39 +0000 (UTC) I really like it! :) Back in the days of Commodore C64, I used to program "self-evolving" sounds by combining sophisticated math formulas including sinus curves. Wonder if some useful math can be put in such sequencing stuff. best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 12:33:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D6EE3BE8B; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; bh=8WCoGvSComU9LeUwcqPF9nDZAVwi3e48ulRyfoSckDA=; b=aGWzWla/A4LDLYldmaPOMpcVCOQsrjEHxfAgYoIo/XiFs0yEsFAfeS/GiuMuV5rwDx 97sPKD3pSu6UUjaYfZnvB8+rGT12hHlWQhOWa0xzAU4MBHiI7om+D1zmLdjdA5RfMo7z 5LFbRzYef+b+SibMxA4+VUhMmQeAgLsY/1NTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date :references:x-mailer; b=aM5va95pPFmaeifKOoBTCSdtFmJpS/O4zlEyURcM3XDMv1gupZpOWui9+dNEVPR0yd JTU+NtrNa8DrNjGLlltUlAuxw50c+T8eMM7LTdVAIWTjREf48L4mmQu7xuchH+XgQqq6 f7z5xGuETor7F1hHrXrU1qTs1xvI6idBJg5xo= Message-Id: <175CB1DD-E719-4EEE-978B-22DA93E5F65D@gmail.com> From: George Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090507121918.29840@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Ableton: Send Midi CC in Loops? X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:33:36 -0400 References: <20090506215910.83410@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0905062333u7503c708t95c9cab97c8e7ca1@mail.gmail.com> <20090507121918.29840@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Sorry I misunderstood your question. I think you would do that with this method: Create a midi clip by double clicking on a midi slot. In clip properties(left most window at the bottom) click on the circle =20= with an 'E' in it. That will bring up the envelope properties if it's =20= not already open. Then in the first menu select Midi ctrl, then in the menu underneath =20 that select which cc you would like to send. Then adjust the pink bar up or down within the clip(to the right of =20 the envelope properties) to send whatever value you want with that CC# I automate midi CC like this so I apologize if this doesn't work but =20 it's the first thing I would try if I needed to:) Hope it works out, Todd On May 7, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Yes, it is about launching a MIDI clip which contains a midi CC as =20 > part of a Scene. > > I can trigger MIDI notes within an Ableton clip - but how do I get =20 > it to trigger CC commands? > Of course, I could programm a MIDI CC send on an FCB1010, then =20 > record that in Ableton in a midi clip. But is there a way to do this =20= > with a mouse? > > best regards > Buzap > > --=20 > Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + =20 > Telefonanschluss f=FCr nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* = http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=3DOM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 12:38:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A5043BE82; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=leMKE0qI5QI/3AOXKD5PHoM1gAtd9LqndgavxBLSN4A=; b=jrI0kp195B9zMmWhKaafhLX2txohwFNccx2yhZfNYCVGTnw0jjlyrrOUbC+dz7HStf 3+HrJXZeBVhS+BIL2am1QSOFcMefekd6pXSnBY5W8IjXY2iYyoeooCFm+HKu0Qomk093 SvpcsCqczznGEmT4+JetcqZdYBjphEsDfe0ZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=M+gfiiJCQWJtbHZSC5TM0R2mGovyj/4XyEgAPLD1A2PXJCj78cWjnLiow8oa5o9Rc/ H3c3Ki30j83rIbN8D4k4+oOiajBMl3HVdICzD7/SEfa+EhjuqOmSaaX6ncjabAW1vW2K 6gCtAPNrXqpcYnlbJC0T6lL/mk+zWdm13dvJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090507121918.29840@gmx.net> References: <20090506215910.83410@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0905062333u7503c708t95c9cab97c8e7ca1@mail.gmail.com> <20090507121918.29840@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:38:06 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905070538r120c0a8ak9a2ecb638f6d79c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton: Send Midi CC in Loops? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4ZALqB.A.IjC.uYtAKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:38:07 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I can trigger MIDI notes within an Ableton clip - but how do I get it to trigger CC commands? > Of course, I could programm a MIDI CC send on an FCB1010, then record that in Ableton in a midi clip. > But is there a way to do this with a mouse? Yes, you can "paint it in" with the mouse. Here's a walk-through how to do that: 1. Set Live in the Mixer View position. 2. Select the MIDI Clip you want to paint a CC into. 3. Set the lowest pane of windows to be visible. 4. Activate the "Envelopes" display (the little E down left should be yellow) 5. From the upper drop-down menu chose "MIDI Ctr". 6. From the second drop-down menu chose the #CC number you have in mind. 7. Either paint it in with the pen tool or double-click it in with the pointer tool (pointing at the line). Swap between these optional tools with ctr/cmd.B. That wasn't hard, eh? ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 12:47:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63F183BE7E; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 51125 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 07 May 2009 12:47:37 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=VLZ+4cvgZgA4zPbBjeF+fWFsRTUpwb6YcRvZzwR2WV0=; b=Z+RDEO8GnqC4/FOvTDYyAQQx22QPuf49JB6qrinrXmipyM47DtHsfMd0DQOJdYB3jK b6fToug/M4/N+DJvriRkZXLbnD9RFtQSbr2OB3bYP60MOayO+X/doC6q5sav7lslzvs1 EWgsjcsOR9PLewnktkn/b1wS5fdrdUL4B/cYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=Hldj6V43fzqeuoEaa2ycxGw88d6TKNrL5jD6szruYlmLvQnPF5JzMQqwDoqMH7CMBq b1hJnq1hcIQaoq3VMYwCj+MbiNGi6gBkOOnUpNMfzEnExLz4eHYb8RDCQHgA3hqRIq9w VVc58s7/C6BK35RekewMOBhRZndFArJrBRy+g= Message-Id: <339EF47D-31E7-426A-B523-BEAAF877BA4D@gmail.com> From: George Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: vocal synthesis and processing Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:47:34 -0400 References: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <7VDb8.A.D4C.phtAKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:47:37 +0000 (UTC) I just downloaded Matthias's ChoPitch because I'm look for a good pitch shifter but Live 8 won't recognize the vst plugin. Live 8 sees my other vst's just fine (Mobius, reaktor, etc.) I moved it in the same folder with my other vst's, library/audio/plug-ins/vst Can anyone else with this plug and Live 8 confirm this? Thanks, Todd On May 7, 2009, at 1:53 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Dear Erdem, > > I second Buzaps glowing review of Melodyne. > You can do really interesting things with that program > and they even give you the ability to extract some 'fixed > frequencies' from > manipulated tracks and pitch them separately from the pitch content > of the vocals > (this works fantastically on percussion by the > way..............creating naturalistic > percussion tracks that feel, nonetheless, that they are from some > ethnic culture from > another planet: alien , yet organic.............one of my > favorite qualities of new sound design. > > Additionally, here are several thoughts I've had about vocal use > and vocal manipulation: > > > 1) Take a look at the old stalwart, ReCycle, which was the > program that caused the revolution > in Drum and Bass.............designed to slice up drum tracks and > then send each 'slice' to > a sampler in a numbered and ordered set of samples that can then be > retriggered in a midi program. > You can also set your own slice points manually in such a program. > > Sometimes it is really cool to just take the very beginnings and > endings of words, cut them up and separate them > from the words they came from and put them in in unusual places > during and over the track. > > 2) A lot of breath noises, ticks, inhalations, lip smacks, etc. > can be fascinating spices for an unusual vocal track > used as rhythmic elements outside of their normal context. > > 3) Tuareg is a wonderful standalone app for the PC that does very > hip slicing and dicing of vocal tracks. > Buy the $35 version and be glad you did. You'll thank me for this > one! > > 4) Our very own Matthias Grob and Andy Butlers' ChoPitch is a > fantastic manipulator of vocal tracks. > I can't more highly recommend it. > > 5) You might reference the all acapella vocal CD I put out called > Faux Voix. > _* > http://www.looppool.info/fauxvoix.html*_ > > The whole record is just an experimental exploration of vocals and > computer generated vocals. > I also really worked hard for almost two years to develop a whole > new series of > 'extended' vocal techniques, many of which I used on that record. > > 6) Heres' a vocal slice experiment from that recording: > _* > http://www.looppool.info/Chris_Slice_Funk.mp3*_ > > By saying this, I'm saying, use your own voice and see what odd > things it can do. > If you get over the weird feelings and the strange looks you get by > making unusual sounds, there are > hundreds of interesting sounds that can be made with the human voice > and most people > don't do it because it is too 'strange' for normal society. > > The beauty of all of these experiments is that all of these sounds > are made with the vocal chords, the uvula, the lips, the teeth, > the tongue and all the combed frequencies that one can achieve with > these sounds because our throat is , essentially, a pipe. > > 6) I experimented with uvulal singing, overtone singing, noise > manipulation, hum whistling, whistle humming (there is a > difference, lol), > trill singing, chest beaten harmonic manipulation, piccolo trumpet > noises, kissing (which as Jeff Kaiser hipped me to, is high velocity > inhalation, the opposite of how a trumpet is played), warble > singings, physical object manipulation of voice (singing in and > through things > that effect the sound), growling, humming, trilling, etc. > > Here's an example of a live thing I did in concert from the > Festival of Voice and Electronics utilizing some of those techniques. > Everything you hear was made live in concert using only my voice. > _* > http://www.looppool.info/Faux_Voix_Composite.mp3 > > *_ > 7) There are VST instruments out there that mimic the vocal formant > frequencies of the human voice so that if you put > other melodic material through it, it sounds LIKE a voice. > > 8) Vocoders also have this voice-esque quality on anything. > > Try Vocoding a different vocal..........in other words, use the > voice to vocode a sample of a voice. > You can get really cool results from trying to sing to lyrics in the > exact same rhythm, but sing them with > radically different styles or in different ranges.............then > vocode one with the other. > > 9) Then there is the processing of the > voice...............................I won't even go > there........this post would go on forever. > > 10) Our own Cara Quinn hipped me to software that 'reads' websites > to blind people. > I did a couple pieces using that software. She and I used to > exchange vocal generated compositions. > One piece of software gave one the ability to download different > voices from different cultures > (the Brazillians pronounce Rs like Hs while the English pronounce > Rs like, well, Rs) > Many different cultures have radically different consonant sounds > and different phonemic combinations vowel sounds. > > As an example, in Korean, there appears some syntactical rule that > says , when you end a word with a long held out vowel sound > that the pitch will pend down at the end of the word. > > Vowels representing combed filtered sine waves and Consonants > representing various percussive and noise sounds, > I typed hundreds of vowel combinations to try and extract simple > melodies from them. > I snipped anything that sounded melodic (like when you ask a > question in English, the pitch goes up at the end of the question > so it > represents a simple melody, pitchwise) and put them in a folder. > > Later I went back and put many of them together to compose my > melodies. > Here's an example of that experiment: > > _*http://www.looppool.info/Sweeping_Mary.mp3 > > *_11) Also reference Michiko Kawagoe's brilliant work with an > invented computer vocal languages > > > > Okee dokee, ..............these are the thoughts I've been having > and wanting to write to you since I read your > question to the group. > > be well, and good luck with the project..........congratulations! > > yours, Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 12:49:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA6683BE8A; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 191734706/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.145.84/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.145.84 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicCABN2AkpPTpFU/2dsb2JhbAAI0EyEAwWIJQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,310,1238972400"; d="scan'208";a="191734706" Message-ID: <4A02DB67.8040209@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:00:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vocal synthesis and processing References: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2DpSkB.A.z9C.-itAKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > 4) Our very own Matthias Grob and Andy Butlers' ChoPitch is a > fantastic manipulator of vocal tracks. > I can't more highly recommend it. > thanks for the recommendation Rick :-) Chopitch is especially useful for beatbox type vocals. For sound design work, I use Adobe Audition(pc only). Essentially it has tools to do anything at all with sound, as long as you can figure out how. Except..... the version I have lacks a really good time stretch algorithm, but I think that may be fixed in the latest edition with a 3rd party addition. Audition may not be what you're looking for at all if you're using a realtime processing type approach, rather it's suited to extensive editing. Like Buzap mentioned already, Melodyne's worth checking out. I was impressed by the demos on the website. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 12:56:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F1233BE99; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5hGa+himYOuRck5MHNl7lE20GFxIoLvM918W3Sv2GT0=; b=bg+e3ZOaQB+scEUY0KxhfsZgbRqQVUomH8pDpV0u0Ayr8H3ZAr598JVYzx+Lb/O/kX mKGANevXniMd0ZG2DSeXb9br3HLykDG0Mh6oNxlVu5r8xPQtEHG9ELU2HeVr3uV3GI4L MWZz0juQDS0TYz7VXpdWUSU0gZjC81daq9SXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z/skuWQv6F683uejX1ywC8xfAc1aWR1qT/y3VmSTe5nwLrKYXfhA7SbGnoEeCvGvQw BUEr3cbS569fR24gtGH5p4Wrw04OoGLsCniBGtEsOv5gVwS6aPfe8kKosAuUCN5FNfAD 9zTPaK6rTPeSKc25Mh6eLPBrWNuV/HXemeSQM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339EF47D-31E7-426A-B523-BEAAF877BA4D@gmail.com> References: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> <339EF47D-31E7-426A-B523-BEAAF877BA4D@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:56:36 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905070556y19aad2acv71fb4167988f8981@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vocal synthesis and processing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Did you tell Live to rescan for plug-ins? (in the pref's) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:47 PM, George Matthews wrote: > I just downloaded Matthias's ChoPitch because I'm look for a good pitch > shifter but Live 8 won't recognize the vst plugin. Live 8 sees my other > vst's just fine (Mobius, reaktor, etc.) I moved it in the same folder with > my other vst's, library/audio/plug-ins/vst > Can anyone else with this plug and Live 8 confirm this? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 13:06:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D93F13BE85; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+tJEtKgkR1tnxyOpqSojN8+pPRaCl0+bvm6PfSURp0g=; b=YxY8PmhcM8n2aSRiP2ndcKFVWYwK6vrgfX5z/MoykfPc6LjrHq4uFZiB6LDHfLtCvl jpnT8jMCF6wZayylfuhqjZfSXKP0vOhqBMs4wMQkgnV9Vg9MGaVOqLA8ifBpZzGkLsGR v7MAi13ukNZ7yOQsfNjY0+11l5hASLgkSy5tE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=u+rJgqxzlQK/ljWTz8YnlYNZzEL4sdR1L/JPzg64XnJkBgfkPj8SfApcynvPQILyn1 D3QOqswxr+Lo4lOHBOd8fbOrkbb2iHHL9PYe8H4nxA4f5jDiVrYEY8qmLzVZCwsGMgAB FsoIa4H5RWKBcdpfa8+pSUgC11H7kvSeptve4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <005501c9ce59$65d6ffd0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> References: <005501c9ce59$65d6ffd0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:58:31 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e5dcc4f451e0251a Message-ID: Subject: Re: vocal synthesis and processing From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi, you might have some fun with this: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/oomingmak.html cheers, os. 2009/5/6 Erdem Helvacioglu : > hey, > > i have received a new commission for a new major thriller movie. i will be > doing lots of sound processing, sound design, along with traditional > composing. the name of the movie is "voice". and the main sound design will > based on this recorded voice. > > i was wondering which softwares and hardwares are especially good for vocal > synthesis and processing. should i use the kyma system? or would metasynth, > soundhack, csound, msp, audiomulch be enough? > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From djalexsantiago@netcabo.pt Thu May 7 13:27:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 713 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 07 May 2009 13:27:46 UTC Received: from mx.netcabo.pt (mx.netcabo.pt [212.113.174.24]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0293BE70 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:27:34 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQYACt8AkrVFrLX/2dsb2JhbACCJhUYIQaGOYJbgT+BCIcDFatsjyISg3EF Received: from a213-22-178-215.cpe.netcabo.pt (HELO RoarPCnetcabopt) ([213.22.178.215]) by neti03smtpa.hdi.tvcabo with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 07 May 2009 14:15:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Alex Santiago newsletter" Reply-To: djallexsantiago@netcabo.pt To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: update Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_77B5_3C0A046C.495245EF" X-Mailer: SendBlaster.1.6.0 Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:15:38 +0100 Message-ID: <36202193646721583224016@Roar-PC> ------=_NextPart_001_77B5_3C0A046C.495245EF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_002_77B5_3C0A046C.495245EF" ------=_NextPart_002_77B5_3C0A046C.495245EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you no longer wish to receive our emails, you may unsubscribe (reply to = this message with "Unsubscribe" on the Subject Dj Alex Santiago=20 www.myspace.com/djalexsantiago Dj Alex Santiago Official Newsletter=20 This newsletter is an duplicate just for subscritions update's reasons. 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18:34:21 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=55cHNJIL0dRVPOg44evBbTlGd4eNhKhuC0o3yvaycSA=; b=rmc/dHFvJmBDLBypcQvKhpnwPq+lQf93lS1JMCEl42BXUUPQm4Nqa4xuRny+T4Rsvr 1QfrCSoFd+wTWqKliMAIBMsIcNHIojuavZ/R2RykwXNC/xBwJufDzV9D9J7LkuF1zBp6 +Z+hqHbSDI8Pl/2PwOECPJm3jIHlLGKribRH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=A61jymPe5uYGxc2Va/nDe0b4C4rvmwny0SLz4BPw4M0ml5s48Ml0HWbCuZuAMuUz5s df5O0bBtsRVJ8Non24gVvHegz+JUva6rNXM6nvQutEpKblJBu00jtat3m+wRd1qAoGxe gzTHYqPNCAbJ8FxFTIsRLOLZlKNKqpYC2gmGE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905070000v495040a2q97eab60a4e7451bb@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Hegarty Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:34:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Finished EP! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a537ae15dc046956c2e8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 18:34:22 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a537ae15dc046956c2e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Thanks so much for all the positive feedback. We're only just starting to play the EP to a few people, and it is hugely gratifying/relieving to find that people are enjoying it. We've been shut in a spare bedroom for a long while, and it's the kind of music where you can definitely starting wondering if you've completely lost the plot or not :) We're currently about halfway through writing the 2nd EP, and we're beavering away rehearsing. We've got a big 4 day rehearsal next week, so we're hoping to be ready to play some gigs after that. It's taken a fair few EDPs and a hell of a lot of programming to make it work live, but i'm hopeful we can turn it into something intelligible! Anyway, thanks again for you both your help and feedback. Daniel --001636c5a537ae15dc046956c2e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

Thanks so much for all the positive feedback. We= 're only just starting to play the EP to a few people, and it is hugely= gratifying/relieving to find that people are enjoying it. We've been s= hut in a spare bedroom for a long while, and it's the kind of music whe= re you can definitely starting wondering if you've completely lost the = plot or not :)

We're currently about halfway through writing the 2= nd EP, and we're beavering away rehearsing. We've got a big 4 day r= ehearsal next week, so we're hoping to be ready to play some gigs after= that. It's taken a fair few EDPs and a hell of a lot of programming to= make it work live, but i'm hopeful we can turn it into something intel= ligible!

Anyway, thanks again for you both your help and feedbac= k.
Daniel
--001636c5a537ae15dc046956c2e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 7 21:38:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B60233BE75; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=4kHMxGzJy4cpYtZYyiKAlBFFz46w0NHQqzEKHuBU7Jx8sHaSDF+t+JKOvLtm2Bkz+qh1KBMjoNSwg9vf7mTir08W8ETNKKI5WJvkEWe0PzBlNdq9pNdhsI5xU9SzN49xz1O9G97Al4ow2vu5ZofEEzw8DaN5gWr1h8s7QEX9nsw= ; X-YMail-OSG: 1djTU2gVM1ni5nMqYVToM0fE0JT.TUExIjdjsicD1D9CmTFztiY3sb2disX0j66Gx2LLfugjCKZK2gheWt8IFZZezhjX1VO34FHAHPTZeH_Gi1w3M0xIz1S0.13ODr1XjxgCX_icmY0X2j2T4vvZmVekBbji94vzuSx4KE82sWlyNGVfBnCmnf_DWJuKYO7lsLwIv.T0kkfHHaKX1aPahaWZa4l1Pj2tHn07FpaR0paVLTyYKGIaG.phSxpct6C79Fnk.RTnhGCpRuXnHJECz7amlxz7VXwC2dUtPnCarcWQbWdoq1iHTt_bdeKw2h0GUf7XmkoUlZZ2VMYBTq474SWXCxCy X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905070000v495040a2q97eab60a4e7451bb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--715368894 Message-Id: <04F4CBFE-C85B-4B1A-ABD1-1304DAA3C378@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Finished EP! Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:38:39 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:38:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--715368894 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed R u in London??? Fancy doing a gig together?? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 7 May 2009, at 19:34, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks so much for all the positive feedback. We're only just > starting to play the EP to a few people, and it is hugely > gratifying/relieving to find that people are enjoying it. We've > been shut in a spare bedroom for a long while, and it's the kind of > music where you can definitely starting wondering if you've > completely lost the plot or not :) > > We're currently about halfway through writing the 2nd EP, and we're > beavering away rehearsing. We've got a big 4 day rehearsal next > week, so we're hoping to be ready to play some gigs after that. > It's taken a fair few EDPs and a hell of a lot of programming to > make it work live, but i'm hopeful we can turn it into something > intelligible! > > Anyway, thanks again for you both your help and feedback. > Daniel --Apple-Mail-1--715368894 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII R u in London???

Fancy doing a gig = together??

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 7 May 2009, = at 19:34, Daniel Hegarty wrote:

Hi = all,

Thanks so much for all the positive feedback. = We're only just starting to play the EP to a few people, and it is = hugely gratifying/relieving to find that people are enjoying it. We've = been shut in a spare bedroom for a long while, and it's the kind of = music where you can definitely starting wondering if you've completely = lost the plot or not :)

We're currently about = halfway through writing the 2nd EP, and we're beavering away rehearsing. = We've got a big 4 day rehearsal next week, so we're hoping to be ready = to play some gigs after that. It's taken a fair few EDPs and a hell of a = lot of programming to make it work live, but i'm hopeful we can turn it = into something intelligible!

Anyway, thanks = again for you both your help and = feedback.
Daniel

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 06:42:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 469103BE78; Fri, 8 May 2009 06:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: in Bb Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:42:44 +0200 Message-ID: <002b01c9cfa8$31bec110$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: AcnPpyljvbRjdMDMSriZd4c6GCVCQwAAPq0w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.160; VDF: 7.1.3.171) Resent-Message-ID: <0UVtG.A.9pF.nR9AKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 06:42:47 +0000 (UTC) > > http://www.inbflat.net/ wonderful! -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 07:11:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F1B93BE75; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Aaron Leese'" , References: <20090508034227.BD9CB3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: RE: in Bb Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 00:11:50 -0700 Message-ID: <82D25559064645DEBDDA9847BDBA9D4E@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20090508034227.BD9CB3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcnPqt9WO15vrUqZSWWnCHd+MnfDqgAALpAA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 07:11:50 +0000 (UTC) I really love this, so many new possibilities of creative interaction like this. Thanks Aaron Bill -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Leese [mailto:aaronleese@flyloops.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:49 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: in Bb Found this thing out there on the intra-weba-sphere and thought there would be some of you that would appreciate it: http://www.inbflat.net/ not anything too hard to do ... but a cool concept anyway. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 07:53:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E2D3BE7C; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8okubNTZvmWQfCdujcJlMSGJlGjYcMkS0U7fyKiNs1k=; b=FDQdXQ/zAaJ4bF9eSR/VUS3XsNjjfFNPsU6tcN39W/VOjoSQGKxyjUwZA7sXrTRB// rABl1clLtc+2e5BgS+WoOVMVoGZpiHRZHOve5gwFAyi6kTwBUW0w+KrWgGgUzbYUG7fL fdAnCqwePluAbgPyAEk8Qmmz0r4MBKxB+Yeh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G6YD180AaMdOeYBqFSdEp9Dpz6kvk2UgszLbs9nIpSOHMw0UMOWkxsukRQ46ON8xBX rlkmyl5O/JQ0igNKtH+wy60Hl2o77sOwwBU3EPNyPo6rZA4q2kqpPy9GSD+HKwASt5xV GlqFNxQkjEtp94TOFZDXd0S7f5SiYkr3jQI8E= Message-ID: <4A03E4FE.2020703@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:53:34 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vocal synthesis and processing References: <005501c9ce59$65d6ffd0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> In-Reply-To: <005501c9ce59$65d6ffd0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 07:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Erdem Helvacioglu schrieb: > i have received a new commission for a new major thriller movie. i will > be doing lots of sound processing, sound design, along with traditional > composing. the name of the movie is "voice". and the main sound design > will based on this recorded voice. > > i was wondering which softwares and hardwares are especially good for > vocal synthesis and processing. should i use the kyma system? or would > metasynth, soundhack, csound, msp, audiomulch be enough? It depends on what you envision, and on what you know. If you want to do anything, you'd need an universal tool: Kyma, csound, MSP woud be candidates. If you would want to experiment, wander around and see what will come up: Kyma, metasynth, a huge collection of plug-ins would be appropriate. Maybe thats why Kyma is used a lot in movie sound design, its universal and you can wander around alike... It has its own learning curve and for myself, I always fell back to Max/MSP, simply because I know it better, and I have access to it always... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 08:17:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A591F3BE7F; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A03EAAF.9010509@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 01:17:51 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: vocal synthesis and processing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:17:50 +0000 (UTC) OS wrote: "you might have some fun with this: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/oomingmak.html " Doh, please forgive me for leaving this off of my list, OS. oomingmak is really very hip, I just haven't ever used it for vocals because I haven't been in that mode lately (vocals). But I can highly recommend it for vocal processing, Erdem. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 08:29:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2ED93BE79; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=Od5Z/z3RfjFgCYM5/phUZ694nvc67U6clvuIR4+QfVlghujXpeYxvM4xqQ9J3pBH0d5JFhEEBeU8gvI39Y9YBqoov6YbOZzPPEu8+bvjWjvnr6UmjbWpw022GpPcrJ0nJ0iyFcSSXqwwj9DhEm16y3A9s2Fj+LBfWKDwhQfVTqk= ; X-YMail-OSG: k4qp0W4VM1ma3bWBtIsH8zsVv0ixOcBkQ7AGvGg.LXxrzY.mguzWaNZS0bGo6FjCM6TC4RYfGvKWeoAcyV7ts9BJU1unDlat1FIP45hgPg7MDDJBtDkTMohY0TxzQf9WOeHrCd5W4C3CwIKN5Hbu8ZhFUVHdcYnhHSTtER989BJdiWWbZP48F_B1XW7eub4bDtE9KbkorbaNXX7kvkayjOr4kYu98zoQgJlCPZSJD.4f8b.UsxOIKS8mSFRhorfws01wdP2IPt1YioJrPIZDjL6X6bnFooxeUal0_I9vwmrNH1b_6748u_9Z X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <4E73EBA2-46F4-4E01-8AEA-B9F65AC595F1@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--676348345 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Ustream this sunday Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:29:00 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:29:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--676348345 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello LD I'm doing another streamed gig on Sunday 8pm BST - thats 3pm in New York and 12 noon in San Francisco(i won't clash w/Jims!!) Full international times on my site - http://www.mattstevensguitar.com You can watch it just by going to my website at that time Full gig streamed on the web with added beard action. I was watching Imogen Hepp on ustream the other day - i think its going to be this year's Youtube. The interaction with the audience is great - there is a very cool chat room feature. Hope to see you there Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-2--676348345 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello LD

I'm doing another = streamed gig on Sunday 8pm BST - thats 3pm in New York and 12 noon in = San Francisco(i won't clash w/Jims!!)=A0

Full international = times on my site - http://www.mattstevensguitar.com=A0

= You can watch it just by going to my website at that time=A0

= Full gig streamed on the web with added beard action. I was watching = Imogen Hepp on ustream the other day - i think its going to be this = year's Youtube. The interaction with the audience is great - there is a = very cool chat room feature.

Hope to see you there

=A0
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




= --Apple-Mail-2--676348345-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 08:29:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 005B33BE79; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=jPiPGZqv1JkMhCKZVqL1u9+vrSJy19VxkOMp0DQv5W0Chdh7WvMHIeo4VJJpltAZVYvS4YPL6Jxi6nDlVbizOCpVDoZrEW1YYCNnEI/1m9IYVGdnoceb1rch9BPeGopGjjCmVecn0S07/gnYWDXdvm0FOJ3SGjsRNaVkH/mqNKc= ; X-YMail-OSG: vSnEEc8VM1lBDGygpK46JqarmYWpHwi.BoDC2Pxo6y8nKij7.iS2l8oiRnJcyEeCM8P_kv10Scb1mbMe01mQFrIaSmYMYtixLHNGgLv0T3M7Y_jHcuJK0Ckr7zY41ePWWP82kIgZv0MfgNzEq63nRMLqHLJMENGZgd0b9MU_j_0JRY4PKL9SLFHggukzy3bh9vkxQE_e0.Gpxr6Mb.wgMQ.gZ7vxUBeQfONBPkrd8f9dXGe3mbBCchNwdnx2GdqIoUZDyyIPqIl84XeliKEDmMAVQuBE.Xgbb.ZM06n0aJhj_Lu.lnO_uCqrbg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905071652q6652a1eeo83a8514f552d04f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60905071652q6652a1eeo83a8514f552d04f6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--676306793 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Gigspam: uStream this Sunday Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:29:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <5TVzpD.A.y7.41-AKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:29:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--676306793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Jim thanks for the plug mate - looking forward to watching u sunday. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 8 May 2009, at 00:52, Jim Goodin wrote: > Dear list... > > I'll be doing another live @30 min set this Sunday, May 10th at > 11am EST, on uStream.tv. Tune in for Sunday Morning at 11 at > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. > > and later that day/evening I believe, Matt Stevens is doing his 3rd > or 4th uStream at 8pm (london time) so please consider catching my > set and Matt's on Sunday. > > Best > > > Jim > > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-3--676306793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jim thanks for the plug mate =A0- looking forward to watching u = sunday.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 8 May 2009, = at 00:52, Jim Goodin wrote:

Dear = list...
=A0
I'll be doing another live @30 min set = this Sunday, May 10th at 11am EST, on uStream.tv.=A0 Tune in for Sunday = Morning at 11 at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.<= /div>
=A0
and later that day/evening I believe, Matt = Stevens is doing his 3rd or 4th uStream at 8pm (london time) so please = consider catching my set and Matt's on Sunday.
=A0
=
Best
=A0
=A0
Jim
=
=A0

=A0

-- =
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming = soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video = work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social = networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
=

= --Apple-Mail-3--676306793-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 08:31:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94AA73BE7E; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AGJ1uRGW4Cwz+TirWToBaDi2az3Gu8Cz9jpPqBXRLys=; b=X97NB8io+14N0zf6IeNZquaNclzpuA2Owowub89UO5tRkLv57xZ2LRkmFOFmOHlXVk 4fROKLrSJmnz4p016XhAbDYrlFy/zsSKllzizMJujrQrA2slHjcAMMQPX0Cb0Xb2/aBS I9KR57LgWgKgvTSZgk6Tuqoj/WFIrI0gS/c/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cn1QCWFr0DOK0nwzu46mnAOkQr5laYQkpDklOvJaoAsGtvEfxs2ZgkkRoFu+lbgNdx vP2RG7zdy64VrdIPUXvqYkzkOF/autwRI6lzl5yjAFqF6fGhL2WkNjNRCw1svXR3d9zW Fr6zbiB4DgSz8ugX8pQnlXkVhOxJh9q/nrXgE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090508034227.BD9CB3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> <20090508034227.BD9CB3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:31:09 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905080131v6e87b758y3b1c7e0164359bf4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in Bb From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:31:10 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Aaron Leese wrote: > Found this thing out there on the intra-weba-sphere and thought there would > be some of you that would appreciate it: > > http://www.inbflat.net/ It really sounds beautiful together! > not anything too hard to do ... but a cool concept anyway. Sure. I'm definitely with John Cage on this one; "Of course anyone can do this - but the don't!" Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 08:51:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B01583BE77; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YMK75qYIo0l5SI0t+FgOB3/jKPpMbcXTm9M3XCcVAc8=; b=ip2cSVaVjtjPncIoPdInSpNzDKzQ3PZH6nRIwoLhqVnsjbMzXmTb59RsLA44hByk/O QEddhZcRlwJiaF80ec0ZhHGZoU06Xb2AGjQ4pZ0gULZ07Vj5wMhlapMaUzXmU7CsdQJK ZZLM1wCS8T/4GROmF6Og0bUVgV7c7bLYIjWEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wFXY2RhB9QjU+rDfxFUSH2jwNe3Mokuqlia7fBsI2Q9OiaViKEwCpQ37aX8UHcR5hY 57XIm1xaEsAvun3mUmJ+5Luym2vug9aJRB6pBpvoXCqtR5372GKZAEw7PF9tHm0msc5w UU4/X1XNERXrYCvamwUpTnychMP53Zo0wKyxc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:51:22 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905080151te88f5dao747ed5711c0a384c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: peterson sonuus From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001e680f12e09b7b85046962bb86 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:51:22 +0000 (UTC) --001e680f12e09b7b85046962bb86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > http://www.petersontuners.com/sonuusgw What a cool little pitch to midi box! > MIDI latency: 16ms to 30ms depending on note and characteristics of > input signal. > with this high latency itsn't the ideal live tool, Regarding MIDI conversion latency I think the worst problem is that it varies with the note you play. Lower notes take longer time for the pitch reader to analyze. On my MIDI guitar I have a three octave transpose switch for MIDI Out and when playing bass I use the lowest output octave in order to be able to play the bass lines high up on the guitar neck. The reason is that this gives the fastest pitch reading. Like they say on that page: Sequencing bass lines > The G2M=E2=84=A2 is great for sequencing natural-sounding bass lines. It = is often > more convenient to play the bass line using the higher octaves on the gui= tar > where tracking is most accurate and latency is lowest. The resulting > recorded performance can then be transposed in your sequencer to use as a > bass line. Many sequencers will allow transposition of any number of > semitones. Then, for example, you can play on the 3rd string and transpos= e > back to the 6th string or lower. > but thinking of > triggering some unsync events ... could be this achieved with > plugins?. Yes, ten months ago I research that and found quite some "Audio to MIDI" converting plug-ins. Not pitch-reading though, so you would have to tell th= e plug-in what MIDI note to send out every time an audio input is received. M= y application back then was to use any analog noise as a MIDI trigger. I left that directions though and went back to using a FCB1010 plus hand mixer for control, because it is more playable (the tendency is to move more into playing effect processing rather than switching them on and off as I used t= o do) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --001e680f12e09b7b85046962bb86 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.petersontuners.com/sonuusgw

What a cool little pitch to midi box!

> MIDI latency: 16ms t= o 30ms depending on note and characteristics of
> input signal.
&g= t; with this high latency itsn't the ideal live tool,
Regarding MID= I conversion latency I think the worst problem is that it varies with the n= ote you play. Lower notes take longer time for the pitch reader to analyze.= On my MIDI guitar I have a three octave transpose switch for MIDI Out and = when playing bass I use the lowest output octave in order to be able to pla= y the bass lines high up on the guitar neck. The reason is that this gives = the fastest pitch reading. Like they say on that page:

Sequencing bass lines
The G2M=E2=84=A2 is great for = sequencing natural-sounding bass lines. It is often more convenient to play= the bass line using the higher octaves on the guitar where tracking is mos= t accurate and latency is lowest. The resulting recorded performance can th= en be transposed in your sequencer to use as a bass line. Many sequencers w= ill allow transposition of any number of semitones. Then, for example, you = can play on the 3rd string and transpose back to the 6th string or lower.

but thinking of
> triggering some unsync event= s ... could be this achieved with
> plugins?.

Yes, ten months ago I research that and found quite some "Audio to MIDI&quo= t; converting plug-ins. Not pitch-reading though, so you would have to tell the plug-in what MIDI note to send out every time an audio input is received. My application back then was to use any analog noise as a MIDI= trigger. I left that directions though and went back to using a FCB1010 pl= us hand mixer for control, because it is more playable (the tendency is to = move more into playing effect processing rather than switching them on and = off as I used to do)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboys= en.com --001e680f12e09b7b85046962bb86-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 12:02:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 019BD3BE7C; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:02:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:02:00 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <175CB1DD-E719-4EEE-978B-22DA93E5F65D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090508120200.29840@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090506215910.83410@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0905062333u7503c708t95c9cab97c8e7ca1@mail.gmail.com> <20090507121918.29840@gmx.net> <175CB1DD-E719-4EEE-978B-22DA93E5F65D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton: Send Midi CC in Loops? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18zEU8pd1ozQdqhg/X0Krp5ZqpLL2qmiXI4enHsVM Jr38V1TCGoxThfSfHNdC374tspyiDGq4kR1w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: WXNvIuFeTlI8KcF+jGlrbcVOU2poZZnv X-FuHaFi: 0.8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:02:02 +0000 (UTC) George, Per aaah, that's where it's hidden! Yes, the envelope properties are the right place :) Thank you both! :)) Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 12:25:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A7A33BE72; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y63ocpZNXYP7tzxeqST06SFUQ6vErTNv5zX+OVv06OI=; b=Bkvb4cmSvEv1IQxdliW8daj1luTduyptZrLEwoUTLl4j1VXhLyLLeVTs6dIRb5hjxK o7TilXa+CvZZtL1vuj0KWQTk8LkrufebZcBPEk7ZRo3S6brUyFT7AeZjKkzkUsSrIIcD c8YD/MS9VNZGtzLmlL7y8ocj1mOkd0ukeB5pc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=T2DX4zkWGbF+IrMp28GxuzVS3+dE3ofmRqdHLpL1la7RfWMn+8ow43uURmnc3RzuAm uR+ezVk+SuTcrkE8HAc5GgiAEWXy7TncRVIKAeQDcG4x2pmUR0uhATzzD/0ft3u9XjA8 XoEtn7d8dMDKhxWPBbKxf1R1CuDzmpX7pf4Ss= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090508034227.BD9CB3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> <20090508034227.BD9CB3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:25:49 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905080525i7fc6e0a9mcd1a458c2df54e6c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in Bb From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c597168ba78d046965ba7c Resent-Message-ID: <9v0PVC.A.cqH.OTCBKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:25:50 +0000 (UTC) --001636c597168ba78d046965ba7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aaron thanks for passing this on, this is really neat very much akin to Fabio's Generative project and a bit sim to the new one David Cooper Orton is leading. Like the clip of Darren in the hallway with the horn. Jim On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Aaron Leese wrote: > > > Found this thing out there on the intra-weba-sphere and thought there would > be some of you that would appreciate it: > > http://www.inbflat.net/ > > not anything too hard to do ... but a cool concept anyway. > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c597168ba78d046965ba7c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aaron thanks for passing this on, this is really neat very much akin to Fab= io's Generative project and a bit sim to the new one David Cooper Orton= is leading. =A0Like the clip of Darren in the hallway with the horn.

Jim

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at= 10:49 PM, Aaron Leese <aaronleese@flyloops.com> wrote:


Found this thing out there on the intra-weba-sphere and thought there would= be some of you that would appreciate it:

http://www.inbflat.ne= t/

not anything too hard to do ... but a cool concept anyway.




--
ReUse, an introspective= textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c597168ba78d046965ba7c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 12:37:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A14373BE75; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:37:28 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4A02DB67.8040209@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090508123728.29830@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> <4A02DB67.8040209@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: vocal synthesis and processing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19jog0wB/tjVqTNBDhmHTBxBDNdJebaqW2GH9qXWt EJ27Sy8PDiWI9ycTfkodwjp37caO97zgqh3Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 6E5xeZM+ODB6K8N6iGVMCO89Ji9SWtI+ X-FuHaFi: 0.76 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Chopitch really sounds interesting! http://www.mathons.com/chopitch.htm I will definitely keep in mind when/if I switch to software live looping. @Andy: > Chopitch is especially useful for beatbox type vocals. Do you have any beatboxing examples with Chopitch? best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 12:57:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B7A03BE72; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=javg5BcF5WHm+DM1IMWilNMHMVj5atyTLmw/oNKQFMM=; b=Cba1aZDb7SkUavLjLFCJoR1VYawWh4+QaCnX7PkqBLAiSMfid6+c4R2xGEZoCmG+YD a6qivLHGfS9sl0T+D7mRKGfn5h+VmbkWXazT30k+9zjGzS6RawTUaBdC5/rQB70DBrjQ zjqGRl/mYYYymnmZzrfWTAJPKoQ+7LIGlDCS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P/4QG8tlIVF9z9oyG9vAF0pSPCR6OliquQIsB0gqVvMQw9OojcE7gtMLIIPwVCS5Ko 1Kwr9wbfzHr8dXKbm6HdP0JIqUj7N0w8VhRH+9CDEYfo/r4lXZAj3Gvhcbu0ibD3TI7t VEU8f1VIDgTsHN2aJ2cUHZOgazssXtUD1f1cc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905080151te88f5dao747ed5711c0a384c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905080151te88f5dao747ed5711c0a384c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:57:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: peterson sonuus From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0tL2i.A.-j.DxCBKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:57:39 +0000 (UTC) 2009/5/8, Per Boysen : > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> http://www.petersontuners.com/sonuusgw > but thinking of >> triggering some unsync events ... could be this achieved with >> plugins?. > > Yes, ten months ago I research that and found quite some "Audio to MIDI" > converting plug-ins. Not pitch-reading though, so you would have to tell the > plug-in what MIDI note to send out every time an audio input is received. My > application back then was to use any analog noise as a MIDI trigger. I left > that directions though and went back to using a FCB1010 plus hand mixer for > control, because it is more playable (the tendency is to move more into > playing effect processing rather than switching them on and off as I used to > do) good decision per. was krispen who was doing some kind of pitch recognition ITB, so then he can trigger some events based on the notes he plays? at least, that's what it seems to me. kris? > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 15:16:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 209223BE77; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <393036F5DA124911B40ADCFFC4669F44@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: Cc: References: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> <20090508034227.BD9CB3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: in Bb Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:15:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp4.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:16:00 +0000 (UTC) It's great, thanks for pointing up this kind of stuff. It would be great if the video tracks were looped (I know it's possible to do it with Youtube file movies)...sort of limited but endless generative video-music composition. As some of you may know, I coordinated the Ct-Collective Generative project (http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=39), in which I have "re-used" this Brian Eno's concept and build up a generative-installation on the web (http://www.eterogeneo.com/Generative-Music/Generative_Room.html) Fabio www.livelooping.it www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Leese" To: Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:49 AM Subject: in Bb > > > Found this thing out there on the intra-weba-sphere and thought there > would be some of you that would appreciate it: > > http://www.inbflat.net/ > > not anything too hard to do ... but a cool concept anyway. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.20/2100 - Release Date: 05/06/09 06:04:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 15:28:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17C233BE7E; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lJ1Cpv/ZcLEBlPBunaZ3QbtfmaTAwguBVqjbUhdDibU=; b=rRRyy3FHSDtsoEvsvhTBWnV398X0qu6npqzgxLGJN99qpAHSK7rg3mugfIykT7NKYz PYJEJp7+YwsoZPGOi1srGxXzG8i8m+Ito9mLGCNHeTGtsO9fDfteG/sK8rjwzTT+Y9+/ m9vcg6KUES+gMYukfp5mi6MyWs4P3k43j9Zs8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=daX8ciFSPiE4TGaf+K4tMLKU2p36DsyVJy1o0k/T/2rT45+BdsmNEP1PvfvVVZ+0WT eTXxotDEJzK5fvX15q7rC0+bZi3neOF6M7iEjozo0uDH9RiTCeM36Hf2sKppHpteScS+ rA3iEIM0ivRFYMP3J3uhyGPI8z/DF3CU1/ujc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <393036F5DA124911B40ADCFFC4669F44@pcfabio> References: <4A027761.9000402@cruzio.com> <20090508034227.BD9CB3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> <393036F5DA124911B40ADCFFC4669F44@pcfabio> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:28:02 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905080828x1e461a51n994a4e8025b55de7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in Bb From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001e680f12e0398292046968461e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:28:03 +0000 (UTC) --001e680f12e0398292046968461e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:15 PM, eterogeneo wrote: > It's great, thanks for pointing up this kind of stuff. > It would be great if the video tracks were looped (I know it's possible to > do it with Youtube file movies)...sort of limited but endless generative > video-music composition. > > As some of you may know, I coordinated the Ct-Collective Generative project > (http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=39), in which I > have "re-used" this Brian Eno's concept and build up a > generative-installation on the web ( > http://www.eterogeneo.com/Generative-Music/Generative_Room.html) > I made an animated flash video collage back in the nineties, with videos looped. It might stand out a bit like a pink turkey in this highly sophisticated company, so please remember it was created as a joke even though the audio recording is from our live concert/art performance: http://www.boysen.se/kitchenensemble/tellus.html per --001e680f12e0398292046968461e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:15 PM, eterogeneo <info@eterogeneo.com> wrote:
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--001e680f12e0398292046968461e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 15:35:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94BE73BE75; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=81NEX+YVNY7HKnf6DukeWLZ87g6TAQPBWrUIF2B7QOo=; b=SLubHnQxXfr2c5H2xkkhaASesKFx0cIba9dK6pIeftsc6CGPKUCqA7cYnb9n5fvNwm jmB0flHzY83p5FVz9YWY+le6OHqapZQJXbWyQO/CUQ4j5YWguoEG4oDxuxZ279W5FJOD Qw9H8ac/Wi9JzRHk/DUVIGo5CQP5Fu0P7E4wU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=k2S5hCUeCpjqKVhQTNeDl4HjwrYebrQKCNOKdIO+WFnrgOV/Cec15yDSwpzoXf1QmP orpXKPe9vHfW2dnaNpXD3Ofo+jw0O7Dq1tzwEJZMYCI6srMT6LoPH6tJElukr0WBRE6t eJgZJKQqN70HHayuCHgBs1N30Cdn780y0+k4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:35:38 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905080835i6200f2e6x5b92c402b0b32142@mail.gmail.com> Subject: That ustream again - and other stuff From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:35:41 +0000 (UTC) So that ustream thing is catching on rather quickly (I think it was Jim who said "that's the new youtube" or something), so I'm wondering: What are your experiences with it, or with other similar services, and how do they compare? I have been exchanging ideas with fellow list member Jeff Duke, and we also did a (successful) test run combining justin.tv and Ninjam. The general summary of our experiences (in a nutshell): There are four services known to us for video streaming: ustream, justin, mebeam and stickam. It seems that ustream and justin are made for broadcast, while stickam and mebeam focus on the video group chat application. Both ustream and justin allow you to use FME (standalone free flash media encoder) to work together with their service. However, the implementation is different: while with justin it's sufficient to just connect to your stream with FME, with ustream you need to logon, open a broadcast concole, have that pickup the FME stream and work from there. Ustream has some stability issues in that configuration and will often not start up properly. (Which is a pity, because it's the only way to get stereo audio). Ustream has that cool "co-host" feature. A workaround: with justin, you can just take several widgets of individual streams and combine them on one web page (successfully tested). At least ustream and justin.tv have problems with some browsers (most specifically IE). Summarizing, here's a quote from a message I sent to Jeff: Main Goal HQ Video possible Stereo Audio stable co-host ustream broadcast X (w FME) - X justin broadcast X (w FME) X - stickam vchat - - ? - mebeam vchat - - ? - MY QUESTIONS TO YOU: 1. alternatives to these services which allow for combining video feeds? (With the exception of that, justin really works fine for me) 2. your experiences using ustream with FME (please also mention platform) Thanks, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 16:41:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAEA13BE7F; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IYXjc1E6HK3O7CljoWLqnH4uQ8V69OdLKV1vBorO6nM=; b=BqpJEVDfixJREavPo1KEcReapuOQiNwMNau6E7fXXEtaifrVBVdYYy+YCSvvI8gQKB jqWXhaBexq+s2Lt5cIvzbH7xsFCwbmFUVcxayRjxpEiuI7h+j8WmFNoaJ5wfd78mOBfZ 81xkbkOdwlRHMMutHHXPAQ5Z9qOYYQc+vdFX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YPK0L5vekPdIXH1XVDvw5+uBiqN02cHZuAJgkCd8BTufn3f3WEaYxC1g1qc1GfbI7h 6wOov9dv4+y16FnOXwGEz+2ma+pXfn1abPTozIGeCkUYGwQNW4lm7d5ECzaURwrLvpIP QVZnF6zsAzvOFwQjhGZqpP2kL3CFdIudOebMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905080835i6200f2e6x5b92c402b0b32142@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905080835i6200f2e6x5b92c402b0b32142@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:41:05 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905080941g52281070xfa4500d865f9c390@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: That ustream again - and other stuff From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b52b71b2940469694bc4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:41:07 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b52b71b2940469694bc4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rainer and all - 'new YT' yes, I thought it ustream or others is the greatest thing since sliced bread. As mentioned yesterday I'm doing my 2nd show this weekend and I have found the technology very friendly. I'm running on a Macbookpro using Safari 4.0 the beta one. Using the built in iSight cam which kicked in flawlessly after accepting the flash security prompt. I did make the mistake last time of monitoring off my USB controller's output and got the delay which I just lived with. I use a Tascam 224 USB. It was a larger amount of delay than NinJam which surprised me. Prior to the controller I feed my looper and instruments into a Behringer mixer which I should monitor through and will this weekend. I'm eager to figure out the managing of two inputs meaning muli NJ feeds to the one account so Daryl and I can do a live Chinapainting show as well as other possible collaborations. I'd also like to figure out how to feed to video feeds to it so I could do an alt camera angle. Silly quest but can I mount a second web cam by just using another USB port? It's early in the game for me with this so I don't have that much to share beyond my setup and interest. I think Matt [Stevens] is the old-timer here and may can shed other light. I will mention and I think he wrote the list or may have jsut been me but Chris (CPR) suggested the idea of having an LD channel on one of these services and having like a whole day of LD with a diff act every hour akin to a virt fest which I think is a marvelous idea. Anyhow it's cool... Jim On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > So that ustream thing is catching on rather quickly (I think it was > Jim who said "that's the new youtube" or something), so I'm wondering: > > What are your experiences with it, or with other similar services, and > how do they compare? > > I have been exchanging ideas with fellow list member Jeff Duke, and we > also did a (successful) test run combining justin.tv and Ninjam. The > general summary of our experiences (in a nutshell): > > There are four services known to us for video streaming: ustream, > justin, mebeam and stickam. > > It seems that ustream and justin are made for broadcast, while stickam > and mebeam focus on the video group chat application. > > Both ustream and justin allow you to use FME (standalone free flash > media encoder) to work together with their service. However, the > implementation is different: while with justin it's sufficient to just > connect to your stream with FME, with ustream you need to logon, open > a broadcast concole, have that pickup the FME stream and work from > there. > > Ustream has some stability issues in that configuration and will often > not start up properly. (Which is a pity, because it's the only way to > get stereo audio). > > Ustream has that cool "co-host" feature. A workaround: with justin, > you can just take several widgets of individual streams and combine > them on one web page (successfully tested). > > At least ustream and justin.tv have problems with some browsers (most > specifically IE). > > Summarizing, here's a quote from a message I sent to Jeff: > Main Goal HQ Video possible > Stereo Audio stable co-host > ustream broadcast X (w > FME) - X > justin broadcast X (w > FME) X - > stickam vchat - > - ? - > mebeam vchat - > - ? - > > MY QUESTIONS TO YOU: > > 1. alternatives to these services which allow for combining video > feeds? (With the exception of that, justin really works fine for me) > 2. your experiences using ustream with FME (please also mention platform) > > Thanks, > > Rainer > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b52b71b2940469694bc4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rainer and all - 'new YT' yes, I thought it ustream or others = is the greatest thing since sliced bread.=A0 As mentioned yesterday I'm= doing my 2nd show this weekend and I have found the technology very friend= ly.=A0 I'm running on a Macbookpro using Safari 4.0 the beta one.=A0 Us= ing the built in iSight cam which kicked in flawlessly after accepting the = flash security prompt.
=A0
I did make the mistake last time of monitoring off my USB controller&#= 39;s output and got the delay which I just lived with.=A0 I use a Tascam 22= 4 USB.=A0 It was a larger amount of delay than NinJam which surprised me.= =A0 Prior to the controller I feed my looper and instruments into a Behring= er mixer which I should monitor through and will this weekend.
=A0
I'm eager to figure out the managing of two inputs meaning muli NJ= feeds to the one account so Daryl and I can do a live Chinapainting show a= s well as other possible collaborations.=A0 I'd also like to figure out= how to feed to video feeds to it so I could do an alt camera angle.=A0 Sil= ly quest but can I mount a second web cam by just using another USB port?
=A0
It's early in the game for me with this so I don't have that m= uch to share beyond my setup and interest.=A0 I think Matt [Stevens] is the= old-timer here and may can shed other light.
=A0
I will mention and I think he wrote the list or may have jsut been me = but Chris (CPR) suggested the idea of having an LD channel on one of these = services and having like a whole day of LD with a diff act every hour akin = to a virt fest which I think is a marvelous idea.
=A0
Anyhow it's cool...
=A0
Jim

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rainer Straschi= ll <moinso= und@googlemail.com> wrote:
So that ustream thing is catchin= g on rather quickly (I think it was
Jim who said "that's the ne= w youtube" or something), so I'm wondering:

What are your experiences with it, or with other similar services, and<= br>how do they compare?

I have been exchanging ideas with fellow lis= t member Jeff Duke, and we
also did a (successful) test run combining justin.tv and Ninjam. The=
general summary of our experiences (in a nutshell):

There are four s= ervices known to us for video streaming: ustream,
justin, mebeam and sti= ckam.

It seems that ustream and justin are made for broadcast, while= stickam
and mebeam focus on the video group chat application.

Both ustream a= nd justin allow you to use FME (standalone free flash
media encoder) to = work together with their service. However, the
implementation is differe= nt: while with justin it's sufficient to just
connect to your stream with FME, with ustream you need to logon, open
a = broadcast concole, have that pickup the FME stream and work from
there.<= br>
Ustream has some stability issues in that configuration and will oft= en
not start up properly. (Which is a pity, because it's the only way toget stereo audio).

Ustream has that cool "co-host" featu= re. A workaround: with justin,
you can just take several widgets of indi= vidual streams and combine
them on one web page (successfully tested).

At least ustream and justin.tv have problems wi= th some browsers (most
specifically IE).

Summarizing, here's = a quote from a message I sent to Jeff:
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justin =A0broadcast =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 X =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(w FME) =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 X =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-
stickam vchat =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0? =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-
mebeam =A0vchat =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0? =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-

MY= QUESTIONS TO YOU:

1. alternatives to these services which allow for= combining video
feeds? (With the exception of that, justin really works= fine for me)
2. your experiences using ustream with FME (please also mention platform)
Thanks,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer=




--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming= soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--001636c5b52b71b2940469694bc4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 16:47:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46DBC3BE81; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241801232; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=o0xr1PkHbvDHcgxjxtMenIHbPqk=; b=OTKBnt5+lZwjvsAl+YiuV46eh/GMig7/ltlrHNSsVjqtMzZAy8FLX64j2NttjW3P 41Z+LK68VoByILTy6IFYtwd6mZttAvugOkiye3BITFfeFH3TSDtOgI935vjOret+; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hv-jv1t_4DwA:10 a=ysAsd1KEAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Sk5HvkV4dz_09CMS2f8A:9 a=XFLhx-T8LJ8vRX9yDNwA:7 a=pkG7UvoGYMsVF5xsk-dqlcsYyskA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=w4ye8Bfr9I05dAMI:21 a=OtsGZGQLLiW1tb8S:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001b01c9cffc$a285b670$3b963547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0905080835i6200f2e6x5b92c402b0b32142@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: That ustream again - and other stuff Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:47:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:47:13 +0000 (UTC) I wanted to add a couple of things to Rainers review, first is Stickam. My son has been using it with his band for live stuff for awhile. I have not tried Stickam but it seems to be on a line with ustream and justin not just for "video group chat application" as Rainer stated. I have not tried it so i am not sure if it has the higher quality FME capability. You can check out my son "Vlad" and the gang here http://vampyre.org/vampyre-live He is the lead guitarist btw! Sorry for the shameless promotion but that's my boy! The other thing I will add is that in order for me to do the justin/ninjam thing with Rainer I had problems in that I was at 90% + cpu with Ninjam, the FME and the browser window opened. He suggested that I close the browser and it worked much better. The only thing being is that I can't see him which is ok in that we are playing music and not acting anyway right? Obviously I just need another machine for part of this operation. More bandwith is always good anyway but I am able to run both on a 650 upstream connection as long as I have the video qualities set properly and the browser window closed. Still experimenting on this part. Looking forward to the Matt Stevens and Jim Goodin shows Sunday and David Cooper Orton on Tuesday, David is sounding great in his test run! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1478760 And me? I will be jumping in soon I promise. I am practicing, sheesh! peace, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: That ustream again - and other stuff > So that ustream thing is catching on rather quickly (I think it was > Jim who said "that's the new youtube" or something), so I'm wondering: > > What are your experiences with it, or with other similar services, and > how do they compare? > > I have been exchanging ideas with fellow list member Jeff Duke, and we > also did a (successful) test run combining justin.tv and Ninjam. The > general summary of our experiences (in a nutshell): > > There are four services known to us for video streaming: ustream, > justin, mebeam and stickam. > > It seems that ustream and justin are made for broadcast, while stickam > and mebeam focus on the video group chat application. > > Both ustream and justin allow you to use FME (standalone free flash > media encoder) to work together with their service. However, the > implementation is different: while with justin it's sufficient to just > connect to your stream with FME, with ustream you need to logon, open > a broadcast concole, have that pickup the FME stream and work from > there. > > Ustream has some stability issues in that configuration and will often > not start up properly. (Which is a pity, because it's the only way to > get stereo audio). > > Ustream has that cool "co-host" feature. A workaround: with justin, > you can just take several widgets of individual streams and combine > them on one web page (successfully tested). > > At least ustream and justin.tv have problems with some browsers (most > specifically IE). > > Summarizing, here's a quote from a message I sent to Jeff: > Main Goal HQ Video possible Stereo Audio stable co-host > ustream broadcast X (w FME) - X > justin broadcast X (w FME) X - > stickam vchat - - ? - > mebeam vchat - - ? - > > MY QUESTIONS TO YOU: > > 1. alternatives to these services which allow for combining video > feeds? (With the exception of that, justin really works fine for me) > 2. your experiences using ustream with FME (please also mention platform) > > Thanks, > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 16:57:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDFE03BE80; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "eterogeneo" To: , References: Subject: Re: Finished EP! Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:57:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0315_01C9D00E.E5FF1970" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:57:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0315_01C9D00E.E5FF1970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for sharing, Daniel. I'm listening to it right now and I have to say that it's brilliant ! I can hear some Radiohead-Belew-Jeff Buckley (plus others) influences = (everyone has his "Gods", but your music has "its own" sound, and I = think this is one of the best quality in music. I also like the way you use your voice. Best for your next EP and let us know your future releases. Fabio www.livelooping.it www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daniel Hegarty=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: Finished EP! Hi All, I've just finished a new EP that I'd love some feedback on. About 6 months ago as I took my first tentative steps into the world = of looping and EDPs, you guys absolutely saved me from a chasm of = confusion! I really can't thank you all enough, it simply would have = been impossible to create this music without your help. Particularly I'd = like to thank Andy at SE for repairing my first EDP, and Kim and Mathias = for their swift and useful advice, and everybody else who put up with me = whining about 'the broken glass' noise and/or 'how do you make logic and = an EP do "insert stupid question here"! All feedback good or bad would be wonderful, thanks again. http://soundcloud.com/tenmen/sets/tenmen Daniel -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.20/2100 - Release Date: = 05/06/09 06:04:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0315_01C9D00E.E5FF1970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for sharing,=20 Daniel.
I'm listening to it = right now and I=20 have to say that it's brilliant !
I can hear some=20 Radiohead-Belew-Jeff Buckley (plus others) influences (everyone has = his=20 "Gods", but your music has "its own" sound, and I think this = is=20 one  of the best quality in music.
I also like the way you = use your=20 voice.
 
Best for your next EP = and let us=20 know your future releases.
 
Fabio
www.livelooping.it
www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest
www.eterogeneo.com
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo
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From:=20 Daniel Hegarty =
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 = 12:29=20 AM
Subject: Finished EP!

Hi = All,

I've just finished a new EP that I'd love some feedback on.

About 6 months ago as I took my first tentative steps into the = world of=20 looping and EDPs, you guys absolutely saved me from a chasm of = confusion! I=20 really can't thank you all enough, it simply would have been = impossible to=20 create this music without your help. Particularly I'd like to thank = Andy at SE=20 for repairing my first EDP, and Kim and Mathias for their swift and = useful=20 advice, and everybody else who put up with me whining about 'the = broken glass'=20 noise and/or 'how do you make logic and an EP do "insert stupid = question=20 here"!

All feedback good or bad would be wonderful, thanks again.

http://soundcloud.com/t= enmen/sets/tenmen

Daniel


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------=_NextPart_000_0315_01C9D00E.E5FF1970-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 17:54:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 387773BE82; Fri, 8 May 2009 17:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z8E/18szk88uSUti+pWnKmYwMyBO/IVsUEEaKPC6EkI=; b=sGwHv3BBod+thiQed6RdupTdTEur5XAB0GF2rUetTNq+EIsp+7Fkp++mJwe4Nu/JLa LUUlLlv93+DKVgFa72MI3lOWPxSYJqtG29tzVKMEfIsTOsO163VI4PDtvuHCDfW26cVQ SqXIkGF43V457em2QKQhKa3jITeil+A0DmdEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tL37b5jdmMP3I8icRf/4afMozvYmk3t4B6BRDOepLR2js0UsxCIK9Sb+iENkgxv2Y1 jXdpX8dJTQejJaTT8PuzpwXq1zTpp8K9GjuupUzHkIdsSAM5vKFkB2/XpXtIRiUMuUSp XM4U+XkQqayguPpAzHEvdmbKOQs7OxC1MxdRs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:54:43 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eb29dc48d03f7a60 Message-ID: Subject: extensive Augustus Loop/FCB1010 looping tutorial From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:54:45 +0000 (UTC) http://ausdemfenster.de/ "How to do live looping with Augustus Loop 2.1 and an FCB1010 midi foot controller" extract: Ever since I figured out how to remote control clip recording in Ableton Live 7 over midi, which was about a year ago, I=92ve been trying to build the =93ultimate computer based loop station=94. I=92ve built increasingly more complex Live Sets utilized all sorts of routing tricks and midi conversion scripts and always ended up sort of discontent, because my setups could not be operated effectively with just the 10 switches and two pedals my Behringer FCB1010 midi controller provided. No matter what I tried, I always seemed to end up staring confusedly at the floor board wondering where the hell I was while my potentially brilliant musical idea vanished into thin air. Then I stumbled over Expert Sleepers Augustus Loop 2 which provided a completely programmable midi control environment and I knew this would give me all I needed to come up with a controlling setup I could use to actually control my loops. The main remaining problem now was that if I used more than one loop the FCB1010 out of the box wouldn=92t give me any feedback on what loop I was operating on. Then I found out about the unofficial Uno firmware upgrade (http://www.ossandust.be/). I had a friend burn the downloaded image file on an eeprom chip and was now able to operate the unit in =93stompbox mode=94. In short, this makes it possible to have one row of buttons on the FCB1010 act as pedals that operate independently of the selected patches in the other row. Now, I can select a loop to control by stepping on one of the buttons in the lower row and the LED on this button stays on even when I press buttons in the upper row to manipulate the loop. I have written my own lua midi script and gui for Augustus which I=92ve been able to extend even further since Os, its ever helpful developer, has built in some event timing support. So, for the first time since I discovered the joys of live looping I=92m very content with my setup. That=92s why I=92m making it public here. Maybe someone finds it useful, too. And hopefully I=92ll get to making more actual music now instead of working on my setup (well, one can dream). cheers, os. --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 18:36:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75B753BE78; Fri, 8 May 2009 18:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 08 May 2009 18:36:56 UTC Message-Id: <5FF47CE8-A75E-4FBB-AE1E-B807BA19D8C7@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Dig This Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:01:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:36:56 +0000 (UTC) http://www.stringstation.com/dinvenmain.html (a performance starts at 2:25) dc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 19:15:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D5953BE72; Fri, 8 May 2009 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ux/GmIyBJvaiNgTl/PuE/8ZdHN/vF6pyaofbbnvzOg8=; b=GK+S4hOyTxeSzyMe56WgVqklba9Cf+lhIi3EzDsGMLo5q9kXqTyrXrLtbF44LHn5Q3 5Hw/FBiID5zoz52TWHOGb22IbIf/2xqCSRJkdQVaLIa0Vimr4ry5uRJlPHzoDiNtt+qm gbWEoupc+QR3+j+izyuSZB0FtXSaiWIfOuVFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XHKqm0x+jVTBQD+XoGCjlUjWrWHhr04llDyQRJq10z2jGS6OckMmhrmbzE/SwdAY+V T3FvX9ir+AC2yrHzOsnPTGlnydBr22Is/ilBNLQ1h1xre0JQxE+aFVCZD/tZACx5PI7X krGfwsnzq0WDHaa3ehafJ0TNloScUoK/f3upU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5FF47CE8-A75E-4FBB-AE1E-B807BA19D8C7@earthlink.net> References: <5FF47CE8-A75E-4FBB-AE1E-B807BA19D8C7@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:15:16 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905081215n1f9da91fh9b4881b3f65d3999@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Dig This From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:01 PM, David Coffin wrote: > > http://www.stringstation.com/dinvenmain.html > > (a performance starts at 2:25) "Total Immersion Concert II"..... "Its functions allow a deeper resolution of music's endless power to be explored... " eh, wow. I didn't know about this project, so at first sight I thought it has to be a hoax. A site someone forgot to take offline as April passed. But then I read on, and on, and on.... and finally I understood that the whole site is a brilliant fishing-for-investors aiming at putting the Stringstation into manufactured production. Language and design is evidently pitched at business people and that explains the weird feel. This is awesome and I sincerely hope he finds sponsors and that Rick Walker books him to play in Santa Cruz! ;-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 19:47:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D5E83BE90; Fri, 8 May 2009 19:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FQIvM9ZXKF61b1P+QI/R7LvYW9X+uSsjZv6bLeBc7kw=; b=KKvn1nlaFGHIrre9iOjQA8FEpUFdk3WIxmenDKA/L/xRpIW8lxwZFh2ACdz04yowYS M7ua1YpXY8l4Y/jsGI3046aG6Z+2R/icWQ0nb8Y03CSLBKhfaWUBQM4t0phbvtSPce3a GRJs3ZE02TsBVs7yIOPLBqSEMURpY33RaMZ+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SMb84mXjxGNKAO3pMXrs8KVTsmK5o1ZGm/BsGK3S3C1U6GH07/vNybfpPlH/3qX2e3 vWylJrjJYmRGafHXlzkhVDsTbQKBY/DHTMxDCbAgkJ9rZgw2LL6CxNg8JjvN/qrodfAn CyCp+t3j9EGZvwpQ+jtvMnBInN2wyrIgmya9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:47:54 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905081247r35ab3183uc937186bbd37fee8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=5BVirtual_Gig_Spam=5D=3A_=22Get_smacked_on_the_head_in_a_ca?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ring_way=22_=2D_Rainer_Straschill=27s_=22R=FCbezahl=22_solo_programme?= From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:47:56 +0000 (UTC) It's time for another session, more specifically tomorrow (Sat May 9th) at 1600 UTC. Start the day with a lush trombone voice blasting into your tired eyes, enjoy lunch to the uneasy listening outings of Rainer Straschill, prepare for the night with some addictive grooves in non-even meters or go to bed with a lullaby inviting nightmares and sweet dreams alike. Go to http://moinlabs.de or my myspace page for a widget, or get the full blast (including chat) at http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs All the best, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 21:28:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9681B3BE77; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A04A411.8030104@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:28:49 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: peterson sonuus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:28:48 +0000 (UTC) I can't find anyone who carries this product (Peterson pitch to midi converter for guitar) and it's not listed on Peterson's own online store for sale. Does this not exist yet or am I missing something. I would love to invest in it if it's out there and not too pricey. I also wonder if it will track glissandos on a fretless guitar (I'm sure portamento could be programmed on a midi synth) Anyone know whether that's possible? signed, the Village Midiot Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 21:33:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C68E3BE79; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WAZbnVvI0q+dptJGB7+xodBKAUnX2HwMTocqaIzSw70=; b=Wf5ax+aZsqlXia2iPTsUyDUwE7xlLZfYWeHRd3IfqPUo8JOB5s6ZY7OHggEtmgV2KZ L2gPItGJ93frPS0h9o9nXUH+Bofv8+7Yqe+UzafM9J6BN8zLSWqK8k/5onVLJWZ891H9 md44h3K/g8MTTbMjoZc02RTeJ4WtMe5vIO3Bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FrA6YOKD4PBQDRIb0I2TL3lb1RqZTSGN5S1xpjQ3/AloPX2uU9t9aXHUnpM147TJxl hPGZeRPifBkiKIB8e7fPJuAjBmyEPfk0K9jG/i1kNVhhFY57+1IAgLR5Q1VcDSQOKmAu +Tx3KcsCyHsyRWBNdaA9d2kaSffYnJRiSvE6U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905081247r35ab3183uc937186bbd37fee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905081247r35ab3183uc937186bbd37fee8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:33:12 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905081433t4839e87ckeb0b025dc30f6496@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5BVirtual_Gig_Spam=5D=3A_=22Get_smacked_on_the_head_in_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?a_caring_way=22_=2D_Rainer_Straschill=27s_=22R=FCbezahl=22_solo_program?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?me?= From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Rainer I absolutely love this! Amazing promo.. Tomorrow busy day but if all poss I'll be tuned in. Jim On 5/8/09, Rainer Straschill wrote: > It's time for another session, more specifically tomorrow (Sat May > 9th) at 1600 UTC. > > Start the day with a lush trombone voice blasting into your tired > eyes, enjoy lunch to the uneasy listening outings of Rainer > Straschill, prepare for the night with some addictive grooves in > non-even meters or go to bed with a lullaby inviting nightmares and > sweet dreams alike. > > Go to http://moinlabs.de or my myspace page for a widget, or get the > full blast (including chat) at http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs > > All the best, > > Rainer > > --- > http://moinlabs.de > http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs > http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ > http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 22:20:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6F183BE79; Fri, 8 May 2009 22:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Finished EP! Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:19:36 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.201 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB9E4234CB04B7_10F4_712D_WEBMAIL-DY02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CB9E4234BCB6B9-10F4-37EE@WEBMAIL-DY02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 22:20:01 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CB9E4234CB04B7_10F4_712D_WEBMAIL-DY02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://soundcloud.com/tenmen/sets/tenmen just sat down with my after dinner coffee and smoke and gave this a listen..... wonderful!.....just what the doctor ordered.....thanks daniel.....:)m ----------MB_8CB9E4234CB04B7_10F4_712D_WEBMAIL-DY02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

http://soundcloud.com/tenmen/sets/tenmen


just sat down with my after dinner coffee and smoke and gave this a listen.....
wonderful!.....just what the doctor ordered.....thanks daniel.....:)m
 ----------MB_8CB9E4234CB04B7_10F4_712D_WEBMAIL-DY02.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 8 23:17:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E3303BE75; Fri, 8 May 2009 23:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Finished EP! Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 01:17:15 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9d033$20738180$040313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnOnR95DX4+XC9sQ76t5iHe7AcnFQBlFnUg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi Daniel, When and where can I buy your CD? ;) I know your how hard it is to make = good arrangements, and your approach sounds refreshing to me in many ways: = the rhythmns, the psychedelic sphere, the experiemental parts. Well done! --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 01:58:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5254B3BE77; Sat, 9 May 2009 01:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aMCardNQux+jIgaFNuf1xJHv2I0lb85BFuSRxjBxFJc=; b=WVKXgXLXs2AsOZjGpMJo0X9wOPVnEw7JlSX8LyWIxjR8eAOKP6ujF2ZAt84mkdzUU4 xGXESVsibPW6VjUhGgLv70+xbsa6d8LTiAVZwh8UCtGcwpFr2YMjLIoxsmOzoEUcgzNN GNxtOQZ/QUf8Q+HRUMThyJrzI8+pHYHvF370I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kvgxZ/iNL2H7I2tRS8ojvgcKRDT+mMB4U6HgxlJ2ga+6LIRccKDqvy+bHoeze0osq1 G+w+CXkEPczxLu7Sa57ST8ad5dxbLRI6Ys4FTFzZfEG4t8FlMIaT9ssbyKNT9mcF47vh KfKX61rFkZOT76SzkHdPCIOCEAsIilBVRlTJw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A04A411.8030104@cruzio.com> References: <4A04A411.8030104@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 03:58:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: peterson sonuus From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 01:58:08 +0000 (UTC) hi rick, it's listed in thomann.de ... 95=80. 2009/5/8, Rick Walker : > I can't find anyone who carries this product (Peterson pitch to midi > converter for guitar) and > it's not listed on Peterson's own online store for sale. > > Does this not exist yet or am I missing something. > > I would love to invest in it if it's out there and not too pricey. > > I also wonder if it will track glissandos on a fretless guitar > (I'm sure portamento could be programmed on a midi synth) > > Anyone know whether that's possible? > > signed, the Village Midiot Rick > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From unideai@dawson.nswebhost.com Sat May 9 03:42:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1752 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 09 May 2009 03:42:50 UTC Received: from dawson.nswebhost.com (dawson.nswebhost.com [65.254.40.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081A13BE46 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 03:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unideai by dawson.nswebhost.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2czr-0005qf-Q2 for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Fri, 08 May 2009 22:13:07 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cancellazione X-PHP-Script: unidea.es/es_es/cancellazione/index.php for 66.249.71.129 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 22:13:07 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dawson.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32500 32501] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dawson.nswebhost.com Ti confermo che la cancellazione alla newsletter è stata effettuata From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 07:41:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 594E43BE79; Sat, 9 May 2009 07:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=TMww+l4bMfIWsR2OHVOSmnsfyUrQoeX4169PKJe8LCs=; b=lbXAPepex4pfEC95Beg/FAObLIkScLmm1xz4k7YrNIaaxuvQ4pmjpVsvlX4VHQmtcd KTilGyaBElRgergYu9p4rDM1YPhg711S0FSY81hhOKvM9k+20a9wF6xTP8MSF6xFwJUl VED9Ih3UZhS69Du84FeRvpwVghO1IIIpt+xVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YgXUABVYmsMsoyF6FCCTvV4r+FuoyEPjxUJabSGwtX5ODJ9sZTBd+rFPaiptaKb+J8 kC6EBARNQXSF2tH/n0qZd2TlUS+QyUR64SmnQd/s+M/3VkQTsunx7Xzbn08sungdmqnV LAxULG1ad5q72C819ugab3qjLG67uyGst3EKU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4A04A411.8030104@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 09:41:35 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d9aa128cbf5f57f0 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0905090041m75fcb4a9p432d4ca8dc5429@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: peterson sonuus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517478c2c13c62e046975e114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 07:41:57 +0000 (UTC) --001517478c2c13c62e046975e114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would guess that it DOES track a glissando.. but a bit badly... It will b= e of course be only monophonic (which is cool IMHO) I used to have a Korg X511, which was old skool, analog sounds... and it tracked great... untill you played 2 notes, then it squealed like a pig... what you will find is that it generates a trigger for opening a ADSR and note info... which will be continuous data. (so bends will work) the tricky thing is keeping the trigger thresholds even. (thats playing style really) OR it may work with an envelope follower, which would track the volume of the guitar. this is better. At 90=80 its kinda worth a try? m.x On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > hi rick, > > it's listed in thomann.de ... 95=80. > > > > 2009/5/8, Rick Walker : > > I can't find anyone who carries this product (Peterson pitch to midi > > converter for guitar) and > > it's not listed on Peterson's own online store for sale. > > > > Does this not exist yet or am I missing something. > > > > I would love to invest in it if it's out there and not too pricey. > > > > I also wonder if it will track glissandos on a fretless guitar > > (I'm sure portamento could be programmed on a midi synth) > > > > Anyone know whether that's possible? > > > > signed, the Village Midiot Rick > > > > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --001517478c2c13c62e046975e114 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would guess that it DOES track a glissando.. but a bit badly... It will b= e of course be only monophonic (which is cool IMHO) I used to have a Korg X= 511, which was old skool, analog sounds... and it tracked great... untill y= ou played 2 notes, then it squealed like a pig...
what you will find is that it generates a trigger for opening a ADSR and no= te info... which will be continuous data. (so bends will work) the tricky t= hing is keeping the trigger thresholds even. (thats playing style really)= =A0 OR it may work with an envelope follower, which would track the volume = of the guitar. this is better.

At 90=80 its kinda worth a try?

m.x

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> = wrote:
hi rick,

it's listed in thomann.= de ... 95=80.



2009/5/8, Rick Walker <looppool@c= ruzio.com>:
> I can't find anyone who carries this product (Peterson pitch to mi= di
> converter for guitar) and
> it's not listed on Peterson's own online store for sale.
>
> Does this not exist yet or am I missing something.
>
> I would love to invest in it if it's out there and not too pricey.=
>
> I also wonder if it will track glissandos on a fretless guitar
> (I'm sure portamento could be programmed on a midi synth)
>
> Anyone know whether that's possible?
>
> signed, =A0 the Village Midiot =A0Rick
>
>


--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
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BTW, it was at they're website Rick..
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--000e0cd1e90630fe82046975ee72-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 09:21:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2771E3BE70; Sat, 9 May 2009 09:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 195803771/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.217.182/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.217.182 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoCAFPoBEpPRtm2/2dsb2JhbAAIzzCDfgWIKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,320,1238972400"; d="scan'208";a="195803771" Message-ID: <4A054DA2.2040805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 10:32:18 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: peterson sonuus References: <4A04A411.8030104@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0905090041m75fcb4a9p432d4ca8dc5429@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0905090041m75fcb4a9p432d4ca8dc5429@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 09:21:03 +0000 (UTC) hi Rick, mark francombe wrote: > I would guess that it DOES track a glissando.. but a bit badly... It > will be of course be only monophonic (which is cool IMHO) from their website:- "the nuances of your performance are captured with fast, accurate pitch-bend data." Which means it will only track glissando up to the max range of pitch bend, which may or may not be an octave. (could be a maj 2nd) There doesn't appear to be much user interface (aka hardly any knobs) on the unit, so it would be a case of programming the Midi sound generator module to have a pitch bend range that matches the Sonuus. They also say:- "Striving to improve MIDI note accuracy, encourages clean picking and accurate fingering, with good control over non-sounding strings by damping them." Now that's the disadvantage of not having the special midi-pickup like the Roland GK series. The damping technique described is (afaik) one that is not commonly used by guitarists, one I've only rarely heard mentioned. Solution would be to damp the strings at the nut in the same way a tap shredder would. An equivalent device is the Yamaha G50, which has the Axon(the best) technology on board and also offers a mono input. These are rare now, but can be very cheap if found. The mono input will never track as well as when a special pickup is used, and from my G50 experiences it's indeed a bit slower. This looks like an excellent product, and from the numerous YouTube vids it seems to track very well, although the latency is noticeable. If I didn't have the G50 already (unused) I'd be ordering one today. ..However, I thought their demo of using it to create notation with Pro Tools was somewhat faked. I remember Mark Sollitaro's comments on this subject...he ended up simply using a keyboard to trigger his midi synths. It's far easier, more reliable, no big latency, and there's plenty of cool cheap key controllers available. ...or Midi Wind instruments! andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 09:33:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60BB93BE79; Sat, 9 May 2009 09:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z92TYX46Vw/pndAy9/dSYqcqHK1YyAqmLVK09THYEjE=; b=uS/ldY8pXnOq4cVBu6qEHakSzdmshJrPjEyYe8yShj7OejRzQWPak+l9njcozJM1ho EpIQC3wDIRDnzv5gEcxTFAbMniEYWi3UraDeHKTVRWJwRZvJPfLmdH0juw8SBz8+FE3R cVVU/V6FH6l7X4sUsEci3z4njF/GHn4w2Uqns= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fnw+kIkHHl0E6BVz/w9zUCFxFG93mpNdpBLm2A7AalYckPPnD/9bZsHF0XBsTjxqop 3zyk+WQah+5BZLcWqZifqKS9mFnxCWwmUg5o4SjbeeNLhPWEhfdJTeJ5el7XY8z5RADq ZbcXxC+wySb3ejctMM5NbhZuxBt1OZYaG6Dek= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A054DA2.2040805@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A04A411.8030104@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0905090041m75fcb4a9p432d4ca8dc5429@mail.gmail.com> <4A054DA2.2040805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 11:33:14 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905090233g34dab048qd5ca5bd5dba6cd72@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: peterson sonuus From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 09:33:15 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, andy butler wrote: > I remember Mark Sollitaro's comments on this subject...he ended up > simply using a keyboard to trigger his midi synths. > It's far easier, more reliable, no big latency, and there's plenty > of cool cheap key controllers available. > ...or Midi Wind instruments! Yep. I totally agree - as a tinker that have played MIDI Guitar with bands, cheated on keyboards and love to use an EWI as well. When I used MIDI Guitar I always mixed the MIDI modules behind the raw guitar sound, for the reasons mentioned earlier in this thread. It may be fun to try if you haven't, but don't expect "MIDI guitar" too much of an instrument. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 10:51:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DFA33BE7C; Sat, 9 May 2009 10:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=TMqAMjsTEunkqZlD+FY/GMQNyAFmma3y+9QL2zmXXQE=; b=wyECJJKCSWC84GzTUJJokKxlqxP1GCNgooRL3wr59YAa0TzSZ74I96FZWh5CJ9zXgJ b3OM+nsEEwYTUjpWQdqIEfLobW0aW/KwVG1tGthqLsnuvX5Q6QQJ9D45yuV7U8M7BTae KZcC0zMJ8IR7Mg3U+iWqSBxFastljVtshgcbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=PdrWFdMegIh8ThlWG1JcQ+CAtz/VDPay3V05sRvQOuoeiMiEJ3oSt9CpElsSTUJPLU ktK2USospFyB/+ZXPp60t19AbTFNCcdAI4HSh/S3FUDkr+WuM7yJMYYYvbkBfT050J+L TMBHipyC2PfveEMiIlETvU/5iQ7odNZHS8wgQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905090233g34dab048qd5ca5bd5dba6cd72@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A04A411.8030104@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0905090041m75fcb4a9p432d4ca8dc5429@mail.gmail.com> <4A054DA2.2040805@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0905090233g34dab048qd5ca5bd5dba6cd72@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:50:41 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e0bfb2150066b81 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0905090350yb443682j85aa065d4a07ea0d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: peterson sonuus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c10a05a63de046978850b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 10:51:02 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c10a05a63de046978850b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OMG.. what?? Ive been playing guitar synths all my life... sure you have to get used to latancy and tracking issues, but to say its not an instrument.. PAH! Per.. shame on you... (but yes I have a mini keyboard in my rack for triggering more rythm oriented things...) Mark On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > I remember Mark Sollitaro's comments on this subject...he ended up > > simply using a keyboard to trigger his midi synths. > > It's far easier, more reliable, no big latency, and there's plenty > > of cool cheap key controllers available. > > ...or Midi Wind instruments! > > Yep. I totally agree - as a tinker that have played MIDI Guitar with > bands, cheated on keyboards and love to use an EWI as well. When I > used MIDI Guitar I always mixed the MIDI modules behind the raw guitar > sound, for the reasons mentioned earlier in this thread. It may be fun > to try if you haven't, but don't expect "MIDI guitar" too much of an > instrument. > > Per > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c10a05a63de046978850b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OMG.. what?? Ive been playing guitar synths all my life... sure you have to= get used to latancy and tracking issues, but to say its not an instrument.= . PAH! Per.. shame on you... (but yes I have a mini keyboard in my rack for= triggering more rythm oriented things...)

Mark

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM,= Per Boysen <pe= rboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > I remember Mark Sollitaro's comments on this subject...he ended up=
> simply using a keyboard to trigger his midi synths.
> It's far easier, more reliable, no big latency, and there's pl= enty
> of cool cheap key controllers available.
> ...or Midi Wind instruments!

Yep. I totally agree - as a tinker that have played MIDI Guitar with<= br> bands, cheated on keyboards and love to use an EWI as well. When I
used MIDI Guitar I always mixed the MIDI modules behind the raw guitar
sound, for the reasons mentioned earlier in this thread. It may be fun
to try if you haven't, but don't expect "MIDI guitar" too= much of an
instrument.

Per




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--0015174c10a05a63de046978850b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 10:52:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9EE63BE7C; Sat, 9 May 2009 10:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=BvCpHpOnKTBx1QD0M4X4uSOAbJxFaSpX7+/Uk7YPYcc=; b=vCXvGeIL3O0MV7xfo7wNMMuDsDxaGLyx0yQXHnIeJY6kbrY3metTqvIfndaLSUGxeV TRhqUpUhv0iHaFoynT5RUNJ6wbwqZDpQIa0cWPCTqqVi01MT4m+5Xei0C2/hSTJ4bcoG xWp/X3dH1ss8JSQMSu01Dm/5u0thvLfCCXJlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=pLP4sTVd8nkPXKPqbOFz4b4e7MznB4sviSyhf2vAllIi0QxZPJMMTAsZOwEoNCzzM7 O+tfLW5aoMyi61/oy3+iJKaqrNzzoIGvLaaND8Bn05fU5jO3w38TCvQi5wTBHVBmgtFR xdqb1GmvjYwS7CXjkXbqgCGq59B6VNEzcArM8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:52:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d5a0e2a2751f3cce Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0905090352g2ad849echc6c61ec27845a2eb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Selling the mofx To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdeaaa7b39b0469788a16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 10:52:31 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdeaaa7b39b0469788a16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit New boxes come old boxes go... have to sell the MoFx.. its a shame, but the time has come... rack space issues.. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260407567987 cheers... Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174bdeaaa7b39b0469788a16 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New boxes come old boxes go...

have to sell the MoFx.. its a shame, = but the time has come... rack space issues..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D260= 407567987

cheers...

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--0015174bdeaaa7b39b0469788a16-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 11:35:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 104F83BE7E; Sat, 9 May 2009 11:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=69egfxdM8Hz2DwSaZ+5w/sV9pU0+I2GgU/5lDDxkNyk=; b=tydgm17Mmtqu+H0MDd+z0Xam/Qmjs5ydPIYQ5VbdSp0DadaIVNUAjazN043kQRxXUp a358jF94rwbpeUsSFpkQHWvBwto9Tv9Li/uuZxlQRv/ZeVf5MLAooiGCPT6QpOVC4yLC IW5QZ3JTbI1BiisSPjo9hJS39rDQDeeATVS/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sat+sTgiLcXlrP1Fd8x1KnFfb+cQMH4nKjwj4HBxNYOpvMmySfSlWp+WRgSyTshir7 Q0RXB6KvJw4nJfeFcdsYgB010yBufmyWSeSLHWMYSdlrgm5WXUBjJvoeByODNIbafE3H CIk//MDf+nnn7JHPRrHG7Us8FetGSXaAGXDeM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0905090350yb443682j85aa065d4a07ea0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A04A411.8030104@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0905090041m75fcb4a9p432d4ca8dc5429@mail.gmail.com> <4A054DA2.2040805@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0905090233g34dab048qd5ca5bd5dba6cd72@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905090350yb443682j85aa065d4a07ea0d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 13:35:31 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905090435k7be96bc8nd65415f38a3da02e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: peterson sonuus From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 11:35:31 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:50 PM, mark francombe wrote: > OMG.. what?? Ive been playing guitar synths all my life... sure you have to > get used to latancy and tracking issues, but to say its not an instrument.. > PAH! Per.. shame on you... What I mean is that it is the sound module you connect to the guitar that is "the instrument" ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 12:03:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63CF33BE72; Sat, 9 May 2009 12:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=carDwKTkQ4OlI6+yWiHZ3mLmYIjlo7F48LYFgE2NOLE=; b=eomLCtrYITq8OW9K0cnayb74uEXyY+gB15RJ0bXsoSp7y3z29Ec9GnOhfQD6ovtfhZ 5nP0h4Chew1Etz5z+mrsVVZrL2EK2VCZqGS4ZfXPiImD3jH0uRS8WNfdIYjMTzeWzTsb yMUdTtv55w1yVJLznRv3vbVBaoqoG+BBLDi3w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LZLDcUnhMOh3vcoJclP/twTPJOIPEB0ieDOLAH77kWQ8YkZp78AaSXPWqLMXv3abgh F3dCdnFTm7x8AzM/v1Q8Wzy6xUtG9YOMoIxmAlQc/sTi5QPaqd7r+wtPX1PQGoG4y3iT lQKZcuI2mN2XtLoGej0psEjZi3ZbWeG33mRtQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:03:08 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:03:10 +0000 (UTC) I'm addressing this knowledgable group with a question about the composer and titel of a piece of music which I can only describe in its concept. You have several musicians sitting in different rooms (meaning: they can't hear each other). They are told to play something. Each musician is then miked and the signal fed to a central mixing console. The guy on the mixing console has to mix the individual parts together; however, he is not enabled to listen to them. The performance is then what comes out of the console. Anyone remembers this piece and can tell me title/composer. I have the distinct suspicion that it was Cage, but am not so sure...and have no clues about the title. Thanks, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 12:35:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A43DC3BE77; Sat, 9 May 2009 12:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ablKz4h7pGc5rR+cJflrDmxTwdhLeWWs1rn0Ovlmy6s=; b=kIJQDtHjCBymdpdr4fXvxIFM6PCFlN5K8QDa9/WfScZ3Z0Ip2JOa3LSH3hxcI/OlQS ZXS6orEMtNjxtdAVJ/4nOSNmoXOPtj4B28K3XXCgXEm6NR5sjy0CGBuiJ6USGyu/lver /M8fiAgiTgz3OGNL1DG5fZHeTgF4eJKnY96gI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=iDo1WiOYE9Ii7bhXQRgAPACSa7PEuQNdLi8KY389YJrGo+8ARlNCLp3aLefnYblg8B +r+kry0Z5wZsvGPWXrGTVElVS6rROcSGEjHQdEPy7KX3v5WWkgfr/jeF6jhZb/2NwLrp K95vvQTZhGoAm7EV+eXZGJ+yP0Y/V3i1w8M84= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:35:34 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ba2ca04309dd03a7 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c4616763fc8046979fc9b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:35:55 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c4616763fc8046979fc9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if its not cage Ill eat my hat... I couldnt find out which one it was, but had LOTS of fun re-visiting http://www.johncage.info/index2.html THE resource for ALL of Cages works.. I have always been heavily influenced by Cage. I believe he is a total genius, and a quick survey of his released works confirms this... go to 1960 for example and see how he writes pieces that are only NOW being produced by avant garde electronica artists. Heres one for Rick for example *R/13 (where R=Ryoanji) *And one for Rainer *Concert for Piano and Orchestra* * ...Mark * -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c4616763fc8046979fc9b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if its not cage Ill eat my hat...

I couldnt find out which one it wa= s, but had LOTS of fun re-visiting
http://www.johncage.info/index2.html

THE resource f= or ALL of Cages works.. I have always been heavily influenced by Cage. I be= lieve he is a total genius, and a quick survey of his released works confir= ms this... go to 1960 for example and see how he writes pieces that are onl= y NOW being produced by avant garde electronica artists.

Heres one for Rick for example

R/13 (where R=3DRyoanji)

And one for Rainer

Concert for = Piano and Orchestra



...Mark


--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe=
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c4616763fc8046979fc9b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 12:58:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E87803BE72; Sat, 9 May 2009 12:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X5BmuThJVTp+arU+TzknNdlHpLs+qrIsOTiqOamFB7k=; b=LVgIkZ3T5469kZxLUqGjVqAiIRgb4C6YYk5LY4obvfJalvTzLynGQAjqFZybl7K2hI Ad0LS54Mc4F8Qr+CyiGqkdt+CloH8Wc91fkT9hPg6a/wjdiZH2p55BLD/wThUVmfEKbp cjqauKb+Buf7OqWV/wePt4FsDj8d2jBdB5BUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nOp9qp9liIOAi/knUHi3y152YZgZTgNDsLST5lMs5H0/8DxbTxRTq2647Sji+Xqyq5 A1TPwA6dpy1TLhumGlfpQ38Bw7YX30wP6TUhYEqsPWygUDEagN7CRjVYxUS81oRSRlzZ c2L4JVnk2qKn0iCEnkXLLe5Vg6O897h6280DI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:58:28 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905090558i5f41d0e5s64410a3978cfcdb7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:58:28 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, mark francombe wrote: > if its not cage Ill eat my hat... I don't know the name of that particular composition either, but as "interesting OT" I can mention that Brian Eno snagged a bit of that concept for recording production work when he produced Remain In Light for The Talking Heads. And by the way, Cage ate more mushrooms than hats ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 14:46:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C37013BE72; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=sdm0WtoqiclCJZwZ11OA8CCaTyiIPWlBBBouiHHU7Eo=; b=IJnLohbfolQiymoNxck3GcJFudEss/9rFmiatiIOxRnPyEcnDsnaFnG/blvdQrslMl vRMrGcmJsUfsS/m/+D1TTkc1OK7k5/a1YChZYkUEMHUfBWwSphrSToiYLcy7QQTgJSsP TbhwlmvpGr8wdmDjYboshu9JAI7iEGMs8ht30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=vkjFFTb1lz9yzbrTHK+sMN3YmBsRL5F1FI3wx6rhA5NyiXjW090zJoAOsufKg36YTZ i85hsOuFo31hBooi7Z1s+Hyz7k8TcElsyB+K9L6UY8WSfreSHGOcyENhBCwhOqGj8Qc/ M7FFR24P1MlunGEkC8y5BBuvJV7tvfUXltkxM= Message-Id: <8E8A2F33-E944-4417-A9C2-ACE1692F599B@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 07:45:08 -0700 References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:46:04 +0000 (UTC) On May 9, 2009, at 5:35 AM, mark francombe wrote: > if its not cage Ill eat my hat... Might be Stockhausen. BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier4 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 15:30:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 392B73BE7C; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A19lHT/pdlOJDUg75Z9vcEELVhy0qxqbwfpwojTNg30=; b=aGLtt6n1Vv3j4qr3xjOODxIIQvbc8Nw86lPGfwodKSCh8GUKdjbu2ZWPMvI2Y/dy0X bzbAJ9F8zmMVAE5GnQ4uQ1hg1p+CV94xJltZLVLVxvK8xXY8pV2hiqbLZpWNFMEMhFFd ePr4qHgX3bbTtnEibSmr8sAI4ThtkDdBNdHeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YToCaeTNdngrgdsjjfvQtdIvj3z0cJELS2P7AwilWQIhFRlGxvndS64uoe/Vm9xPK0 P4auOj3phE2sQ6Q4WWvX0VyhZ0u1FmO4fHdQJt5t9M91S8nNMvyiua/qQEZVDkE+U3nJ szeyuIbJnx1JFvtln/e2Ws7pQoP0Y+/Xbru7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905090558i5f41d0e5s64410a3978cfcdb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905090558i5f41d0e5s64410a3978cfcdb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:30:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 15:30:28 +0000 (UTC) 2009/5/9, Per Boysen : > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, mark francombe And by the way, Cage ate more mushrooms than > hats ;-) > > Per ha,ha,ha you made my afternoon. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 16:02:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3E453BE70; Sat, 9 May 2009 16:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241884938; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=6FsPiDly4GbyGK8GmX+G5KfZ+94=; b=FgtEGKxoOjFHg8zGL3VBFtoChAlkUVfxh6Li/Vf0bpU10eJmwVW2zk4iBeAT8Yf+ 3thSR8uLb5svCHopIsrTg8xQDerwBsUp9sV/NSJqhHMTWhS7JsiIUuxY0vH65zo2; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ldsBtsVQeGQA:10 a=Kkp7wlFsJ2AA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Cp0_AXTNAAAA:8 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=KUxuKR8tAAAA:8 a=fkieF908AAAA:8 a=E_yRJ_AoAAAA:8 a=xroFcDHfu8tdDLKtI8oA:9 a=Y5R62P5dBDj_LctVELom0Miec9kA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9d0bf$cfd259d0$3b963547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0905081247r35ab3183uc937186bbd37fee8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BVirtual_Gig_Spam=5D:_=22Get_smacked_on_the_head_in_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a_caring_way=22_-_Rainer_Straschill's_=22R=FCbezahl=22_sol?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?o_programme?= Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:04:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 16:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Watching Rainer now... J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:47 PM Subject: [Virtual Gig Spam]: "Get smacked on the head in a caring way" - Rainer Straschill's "Rübezahl" solo programme > It's time for another session, more specifically tomorrow (Sat May > 9th) at 1600 UTC. > > Start the day with a lush trombone voice blasting into your tired > eyes, enjoy lunch to the uneasy listening outings of Rainer > Straschill, prepare for the night with some addictive grooves in > non-even meters or go to bed with a lullaby inviting nightmares and > sweet dreams alike. > > Go to http://moinlabs.de or my myspace page for a widget, or get the > full blast (including chat) at http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs > > All the best, > > Rainer > > --- > http://moinlabs.de > http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs > http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ > http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 16:14:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45A1D3BE72; Sat, 9 May 2009 16:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4E7A8911-E160-495E-B602-82AED3C2637F@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--564512400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:32:56 -0700 References: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 16:14:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--564512400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit beautiful, Zoe. articulate, creative... alive! richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On May 1, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > hi loopers, > > wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in > my studio a couple weeks ago: > > http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde-cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001 > > best, > > zoe > --Apple-Mail-6--564512400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable beautiful, Zoe. articulate, = creative... alive!

richard sales
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On May 1, 2009, at = 3:38 PM, Zoe Keating wrote:

hi = loopers,

wired just posted the video they took of me looping and = chatting in my studio a couple weeks ago:

http://www.wired.com/video/latest-vid= eos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde-cellist-zoe-keating/21830486001
best,

zoe








= --Apple-Mail-6--564512400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 19:46:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 833E63BE78; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0T6gmH4/ec9GXyHuTtQcj5pHM0LbKNBbsRjiXyJ2gg8=; b=lfeEwqmKsPbGKiBJoiUW1Sl5w8ukmna6KxycWIjloFyEk1PnBJLQ2aQjab0jVij6po QoZLzUW2ULovf0bwvqDlDGZO+x/cX48HxyQ6Mgqc1JlfIwKULk1QD0qGR4qptt/eeOyX q7beqya/HPhDzf8SEMJvSWixlrcF7qlR5hp7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AeP2RhDlWHOwmkQg5agjbx1AHqwzXJDtU8x9cyVAbglJ2JOYNXhCH7f/LCsgGjKpRA FzGKELOhNpHm062fzKf8wkl+WZoClcg9yzbWDXJJ3vXwxh3bMFEm6rU1QA36MWOp+t8Y H+OJYrHMyawUZzC6YebdeVY1jzHFc01O8G9B4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000601c9d0bf$cfd259d0$3b963547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <7334ca1b0905081247r35ab3183uc937186bbd37fee8@mail.gmail.com> <000601c9d0bf$cfd259d0$3b963547@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 15:46:25 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905091246p53afdeb4oe85d8390d1d47c79@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5BVirtual_Gig_Spam=5D=3A_=22Get_smacked_on_the_head_in_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?a_caring_way=22_=2D_Rainer_Straschill=27s_=22R=FCbezahl=22_solo_program?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?me?= From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Rainer I'm sorry but I missed your show - did you record it, if so please post the link. Hope it went well. Jim On 5/9/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > Watching Rainer now... > > > J > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rainer Straschill" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:47 PM > Subject: [Virtual Gig Spam]: "Get smacked on the head in a caring way" - > Rainer Straschill's "R=FCbezahl" solo programme > > >> It's time for another session, more specifically tomorrow (Sat May >> 9th) at 1600 UTC. >> >> Start the day with a lush trombone voice blasting into your tired >> eyes, enjoy lunch to the uneasy listening outings of Rainer >> Straschill, prepare for the night with some addictive grooves in >> non-even meters or go to bed with a lullaby inviting nightmares and >> sweet dreams alike. >> >> Go to http://moinlabs.de or my myspace page for a widget, or get the >> full blast (including chat) at http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs >> >> All the best, >> >> Rainer >> >> --- >> http://moinlabs.de >> http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs >> http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=3Dmoinlabs >> http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ >> http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=3D117329 >> >> > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 23:18:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C1903BE78; Sat, 9 May 2009 23:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lyLwsOo2FFwVxTv+4Crb+EMQAP+NZeN/NhbfgzMC1hw=; b=GurseXlr9a5nnzA/ruIabbUbVg6IUUOiYddQ+H8rW0t/gBdzr08Dbq6Xy5jXsR3xdV 1+/43QowG9ZbA9Mor3m8NohWu47fA/diD9CpcIY/WqjRmlk1fndN78AMiS5HaE+FeuZO By0MC2kCsJbRR6yfoaIhWu6YiU3IlUYbVolmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gJqqg1SgyZt/JGJq2BSZujUqYdlOcjSaju/jTatKraIk2CSUAM75OnX4uSyVCxs2AC U2P7cYJ5vqAOMABIb4XS86cLo1q7XgQHRKviVyFiXBK7UyWrf52Xxq9524XkmF6OlAP8 EFiR3I+8WyaFFVdGzPwm4UTXS66HG9fRC2KYk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 01:18:41 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905091618l4083c4ccw3c942c4f7a9e8b53@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Get_smacked_on_the_head_in_a_caring_way=22_=2D_Rainer_S?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?traschill=27s_=22R=FCbezahl=22_solo_programme?= From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 23:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Jim siad: "Rainer I'm sorry but I missed your show - did you record it, if so please post the link." You bet I did! Part 1 (of more to come): http://vimeo.com/4565667 Best, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 9 23:24:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AAF43BE75; Sat, 9 May 2009 23:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HupryNx+tY7lcFOE4jRsFo4ChsDGdfnp069xFjOu7Yo=; b=bU16fNUYADRulmnKpaE71jdh92m+onZsgdXLo47Ncud0LK+8ciluecQpyILG9J+NgV Tgurp6l61yxwll+c8lLweWtCdewX+q8qfz8Ff25Q2lFdu7vd8EcBqV3TaHZ7Bgfhdiur Sv0miYchWjkbuA5+mpImlJXarNB879WBlzxOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=KLDhXxBPKzhL09Iwk4ctC4hO8ozdPoZn6tBFJestfncEq2QDNDhS+d1bM+/43F6WNw 3HXvR03bydBfmvE7saQvejkxp8GEgJ+/LYyqmTJezwz6VBJ5eBSTMAMrCDW2mU6wmekX cymCpP2sFsj+cZH5kzlsLMV2Ki2PH3AKMzMmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:24:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f458898fd4d2f017 Message-ID: <101191640905091624t4220487aj1257a3d254ea9e0b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Live Looping Remix - Ghost Town From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f4a1a902720469830d91 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 23:24:58 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f4a1a902720469830d91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another in a line of live loops with synced drums. in this case, I actually replaced the drum track after the fact with something a bit more kicky. And laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part of the live performance of the piece. The cycle of improvise-extract-compose-perform (still with a lot of improvisation, but with a lot more structure) is now complete (-able). I am loving the new workflow. warrensirota.com/solostuff/ghosttown.mp3 --00163630f4a1a902720469830d91 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another in a line of live loops with synced drums. in this case, I actually= replaced the drum track after the fact with something a bit more kicky. An= d laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part of the live performan= ce of the piece. The cycle of improvise-extract-compose-perform (still with= a lot of improvisation, but with a lot more structure) is now complete (-a= ble). I am loving the new workflow.

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Faithfully, Mr.Desmond Rupert From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 00:53:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B2113BE75; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241916804; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=4tx2fLqLgCj8BIydTNMHty0NGoU=; b=pI17p15awfBNqZlWen9Bu6Q/Yx6gWy1o2WylPZI9LhamnystTDiBPiVz96A4abBm OUqog/mXRcDajGyPe2y6LPa6e35EvGjOj/+gDslj/sz/6BVuGuqp82xC2k7sweGA; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2jC2qF4G9VsA:10 a=nBCrnldg5e8A:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=Cp0_AXTNAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=KUxuKR8tAAAA:8 a=fkieF908AAAA:8 a=E_yRJ_AoAAAA:8 a=QF7zvUuCcE-bZFH1_rcA:9 a=vpiezzeuWf-K-A8Woqmkj_tVPI8A:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9d10a$019240d0$3b963547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0905091618l4083c4ccw3c942c4f7a9e8b53@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=22Get_smacked_on_the_head_in_a_caring_way=22_-_Rainer?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Straschill's_=22R=FCbezahl=22_solo_programme?= Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 20:55:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Looks and sounds good Rainer. I take it the broadcast problem didn't come through in the recording. Any idea what that was? What do you use to loop with btw? I don't think I ever asked you. A real inspiration indeed, thanks. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 7:18 PM Subject: "Get smacked on the head in a caring way" - Rainer Straschill's "Rübezahl" solo programme > Jim siad: > "Rainer I'm sorry but I missed your show - did you record it, if so > please post the link." > > You bet I did! Part 1 (of more to come): > http://vimeo.com/4565667 > > Best, > > Rainer > > --- > http://moinlabs.de > http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs > http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ > http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 01:39:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C62403BE77; Sun, 10 May 2009 01:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=6+2yG4UaT+NCOZF6vsGzN2bjlSmrcRCTNMED6pee1fY=; b=EU1sHHDhRzBf5AXD20vcEjRB/I2x6cO6aIeqr8sWC0rAa4kWE6XdA1uNqJJn8jMohE ys1mlu2iQlO84nR6snzrk+Vl7tPVOd+5DcBsgQ5RHLAa+snJ1V9eNGHZiRz1CpsLKvnT I/QECzaGVoBsfvOYpjcFJX0RzalH1hMJPiywU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=mDY5GVXWv+2RQBVcpiESNkmr4g3+805Y7K53TBnV0xlGR/pHo3KNjvnhfbZ/RvAN3X Qdoco8J5CNfEmSV+mDzGV6H6dJ60uGU9XfW4Kf/kwxlvwGn8qsiA4Q/9jZhMAmPvd3DE enGLL9hm3VxqAq3Odtr8DyH9Vqp2g77nbFaNI= Message-Id: <7AACEBB4-58B8-4458-9F24-7C51F44E2E93@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--528201929 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 18:38:06 -0700 References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <9MhMBB.A.nFG.1AjBKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 01:39:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--528201929 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On May 9, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > I have the > distinct suspicion that it was Cage, but am not so sure...and have no > clues about the title. It would help to know the when of the piece. David Toop comes up regarding musicians in separate rooms but routing to a computer not a mixer. Unless it was a mixer on a computer. :-) regards BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier4 --Apple-Mail-1--528201929 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On May 9, 2009, = at 5:03 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

 I have the
distinct = suspicion that it was Cage, but am not so sure...and have no
clues = about the title.


It = would help to know the when of the piece.

David = Toop comes up regarding musicians in separate rooms but routing to a = computer not a mixer. Unless it was a mixer on a = computer.
:-)


regards

BobC



= --Apple-Mail-1--528201929-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 02:10:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87B893BE73; Sun, 10 May 2009 02:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o0xXMaO3YlL5mB/Ru9IKeacz83lYPgtnjOxrjPI3LyQ=; b=rlEOsCoyIW7Ja6GoJh2kv9sJzsa3isRyjC3Pnqm8ZMbWHCItxqgI9zAIstUU16lF1Y 3JsdyVRk8g9JWct4KcKj8djzRlsy/3k5QsV7xehgIpnBGDGfge/1V33HQ+S2xnl7p33K MYE9FLo/Iz4Hj1CUj8fm51hfAsg3a6XqZUR3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DW+wBL25PrencJ3dmzoy2zvXmgZk06D8l/QRbEfVcx44stCcW3jzV+EBSDtw9scOxy ouOrD6kX0wGi0TmO+utJcbzdPHpPoydgoqkK9hUIvkqanXWCxa17ZZsLV6P3PNe8qUeT iFevppV5DKZaY0ZiUf9g6FgV1dSdQmnaJnUTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7AACEBB4-58B8-4458-9F24-7C51F44E2E93@gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> <7AACEBB4-58B8-4458-9F24-7C51F44E2E93@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 22:10:11 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905091910t2775b5d9j217505befa5cf281@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a9ff9a3ec50469855c9e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 02:10:13 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a9ff9a3ec50469855c9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rainer I loved it! I left you a comment on Vimeo but echo'ing a great mix of mystery and playful. When you jumped out with the 'Billy Idol rebell yell' it was really the element of surprise, good stuff. Did you at one point or was it my imagination, changing cam views? Was that live or an edit later? If so live how are you switching between views? The posterization when you were out of view was edit wasn't it or if not how was that happening live? I'm curious to either use multi cam myself or some kind of change of scene on a future cast. I look foward to seeing the second part, again sorry I missed you live - too many things today on my radar. Best Jim --001636c5a9ff9a3ec50469855c9e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer I loved it! =A0I left you a comment on Vimeo but echo'ing a grea= t mix of mystery and playful. =A0When you jumped out with the 'Billy Id= ol rebell yell' it was really the element of surprise, good stuff.
=
Did you at one point or was it my imagination, changing cam view= s? =A0Was that live or an edit later? =A0If so live how are you switching b= etween views? =A0The posterization when you were out of view was edit wasn&= #39;t it or if not how was that happening live? =A0I'm curious to eithe= r use multi cam myself or some kind of change of scene on a future cast.

I look foward to seeing the second part, again sorry I = missed you live - too many things today on my radar.

Best

Jim

--001636c5a9ff9a3ec50469855c9e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 02:54:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FE3D3BE73; Sun, 10 May 2009 02:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8PD4A8FdwsCSIBjEHgFB0rwSUjVf+4RwK2gTJQN15oA=; b=kzoXWEa39e4aETrC7Ep1sQBWIvCx35yfPcjrLAFHuFAiITndjdoGTVvIiUHneRriqI BIyDU/zyTMxxUkCfPclYUhGkGVdu4diUq8rSpXK3Wz6HlWejYsCzhIXK9zLpMUrqFGjy Y/kOpeImUJzVf0z3leSmqOFo7WnNRqOFUmL+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cnKmr+QHCpYCmxQcZwq/sRJg+v+57Q8pVinfSyWu2IsH4oQ0K+j2FFfJ8ChXNYDOIA NTaD/+uYO9yxkk1rgwEZ9lnleYIMq8H7rzTJ8DEwHq5QVoDOWEiHvEZRP8UguGiAouVp xU3MUiZocXC0fKsNDLrqEywnAnBtExNr+Sq+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 04:54:42 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905091954m34087dcbn55fe485cff3b642e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Get_smacked_on_the_head_in_a_caring_way=22_=2D_Rainer_S?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?traschill=27s_=22R=FCbezahl=22_solo_programme_live_videos?= From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 02:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Dear watchers, the second part of yesterday's "MoinSound Studio Sessions" performance has just been posted on vimeo: http://vimeo.com/4568425 To answer some questions posted here (there and everywhere): 1. The video quality was 320x200 pixel and (I think) 300kbps, audio was 128kbps 44.1kHz stereo. The recordings were done in FME, so everything is coming from that lo-fi quallity. 2. No, I didn't use more than one camera. There are some edits in both videos (especially in the second, where I played with some jump cuts during the rhythmic section). But the point of view is always the same (obviously). (and in case you missed it, here's that first part again: http://vimeo.com/4565667) Best, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 14:40:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A48A43BE71; Sun, 10 May 2009 14:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5pTsSr7xqCE7qMeC4LioKstKj7vyw4WI5SxM2Ny4hsQ=; b=r4weQD2u1Q2STGTzi351Xgb/GEqYFRk5qu+8NiJa6di8IhHIIV1PgrMDCeFheg8Fcg tc8ME/1IGxR+eLBmdhpfJ2NnZTMfNLwsZNCzmJTdV5ZBKI8ajT1aulQa+zJ/d648gS+g 4ebsRj2gPT76NuWbVxsSTLln6wT9Hnsb7m1cw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ch7RDn1J8/Yv37WWOMUZZAfrANjzWlYW5jP46q7Cdj8TlXIpxN+nKiFLzgwGDpxW4j JPN0AMvFkygkFVQcIYeOD89CiArbvidisVekSfYjOBtTt1wQemR0boo7KiVRzQWGgiNr SDo1kW9ySwOrNDMx1KWHCOEaDGAZYUMeQTklI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 10:40:23 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905100740v5e4af7b9m5d7689b0f942d870@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Gigspam reminder: Jiim on uStream 11am EST From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a9bf7d89ab04698fd718 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 14:40:24 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a9bf7d89ab04698fd718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A reminder I'm doing a ustream feed in @24 min at 11am EST NY Time @6pm in UK, 8am in California. My url is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.Tune in if you can. Happy mother's day to all your Mom's. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a9bf7d89ab04698fd718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A reminder I'm doing a ustream feed in @24 min at 11am EST NY Time @6pm= in UK, 8am in California. =A0My url is=A0=A0http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.
Tune = in if you can. =A0Happy mother's day to all your Mom's.

--001636c5a9bf7d89ab04698fd718-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 15:16:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21BB13BE71; Sun, 10 May 2009 15:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1922 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 10 May 2009 15:16:55 UTC Message-Id: <0E38F30E-438C-42E0-AC84-98AF7479921F@theclaypools.com> From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640905091624t4220487aj1257a3d254ea9e0b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-50--480987044 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Looping Remix - Ghost Town Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:45:01 -0500 References: <101191640905091624t4220487aj1257a3d254ea9e0b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:16:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-50--480987044 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On May 9, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Another in a line of live loops with synced drums. in this case, I > actually replaced the drum track after the fact with something a bit > more kicky. And laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part > of the live performance of the piece. The cycle of improvise-extract- > compose-perform (still with a lot of improvisation, but with a lot > more structure) is now complete (-able). I am loving the new workflow. > > warrensirota.com/solostuff/ghosttown.mp3 > Warren, I am enjoying both the workflow and the result. I dig the "Warm and Cool" vibe of the piece. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there --Apple-Mail-50--480987044 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On May 9, 2009, = at 6:24 PM, Warren Sirota wrote:

Another in = a line of live loops with synced drums. in this case, I actually = replaced the drum track after the fact with something a bit more kicky. = And laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part of the live = performance of the piece. The cycle of improvise-extract-compose-perform = (still with a lot of improvisation, but with a lot more structure) is = now complete (-able). I am loving the new workflow.

warrensirota.com/= solostuff/ghosttown.mp3


Warre= n, I am enjoying both the workflow and the result. I dig the "Warm and = Cool" vibe of the piece.

=
All the = best,

Loren = Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar = music
www.lorenclaypool.com and = links from there



= --Apple-Mail-50--480987044-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 15:49:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40D7F3BE73; Sun, 10 May 2009 15:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wA4R+ldpWqTWZlYHLGW/opxGZJgCaAnsP0ow86Zybes=; b=ERSKTjYGgptDqqkQsRvUSTGmMM1LAHXa0tHs6KrIDB3vFsjjcXvRdFQUl92GWnuML6 VlogwCjeDdSn697uYEX7BCXyjXbG6cvu5n0TDCjgYffIO9VbcRwu1Tsl+xKJ38PtBOvC 3ZqyqX7ynvE1IufJRYQwMoTdaHiiYmxpkn28M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=H/+8x3BIIugY/j3z1DwMotD0leQyrSBuosfwfIrdvFDKQVNq20pUem4Yscab/0PWvd anMkXCIE98vMDQhhnGesYIkMQwd27xvTyuYx6Q8HykSgPaKvMyk29hJvkuLux3vhHGtc oSDCOyMblXFjdKKi6cjsyp+7WMTmK+ezTvTdE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:49:08 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:49:10 +0000 (UTC) So I noticed there's this general conflict how to hold your electric guitar, more specifically how long the shoulder strap should be. Generally it's accepted that while having a long strap looks cooler (and is thus indispensable for rock music), only with a short strap good command of the instrument is possible - that's why all the jazz cats etc. accept that they look stupid and have the guitar hanging at chest level. Well, here's to prove different - a virtuoso guitarist with his instrument at knee level: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8lFmsCXhg Rainer ps: yes, there is some looping relation... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 15:52:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A6663BE73; Sun, 10 May 2009 15:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jmq4bIy6/gTDTz88eTxJKeqUtdI3TMZ6AIaxglE/vaw=; b=K0PInI+POvJXTw6jUaMOEBVQ1yvFLu1j+Th8o0XLYzJTpyElRGN2b65ZHZuGJBNXUK eOhR1EKOvfzp2xh+Kte8D+BZsln4vlj1Q1FmkpVWNHrgzUpAfTZCn/+8pEu5hZTPGXCU TK+XeUS7P6KnSi3sZ++7y4EPq+mTHSnI7J9sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jcR3lGsPPH6wYnXZFxSRUb2qnoQgWb3j8HszFQ2krMdb3lUsI+UsFzw3P4CpDGamLb 9Lv0XeNGBJ45Fp9ZixtK82hrHCPlSNztLDrGaf2RhxDjtu6z+QNNMNWK4qVGqW448Qtn nu5+Nva3XUOdW+JqZ+T4p02fDyA2LYBnxmTp0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <0E38F30E-438C-42E0-AC84-98AF7479921F@theclaypools.com> References: <101191640905091624t4220487aj1257a3d254ea9e0b@mail.gmail.com> <0E38F30E-438C-42E0-AC84-98AF7479921F@theclaypools.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 11:22:48 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ec9669ce621be2c2 Message-ID: <101191640905100822o3884df31j174b2d5f54a31aa2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live Looping Remix - Ghost Town From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362836d6338ad80469906faa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:52:57 +0000 (UTC) --0016362836d6338ad80469906faa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit many thanks, Loren. I love your sig. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Loren Claypool wrote: > > On May 9, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > > Another in a line of live loops with synced drums. in this case, I actually > replaced the drum track after the fact with something a bit more kicky. And > laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part of the live performance > of the piece. The cycle of improvise-extract-compose-perform (still with a > lot of improvisation, but with a lot more structure) is now complete > (-able). I am loving the new workflow. > > warrensirota.com/solostuff/ghosttown.mp3 > > > Warren, I am enjoying both the workflow and the result. I dig the "Warm and > Cool" vibe of the piece. > All the best, > > Loren Claypool > genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music > www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there > > > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016362836d6338ad80469906faa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable many thanks, Loren. I love your sig.

On S= un, May 10, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Loren Claypool <looper@theclaypools.com> = wrote:
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On May 9, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Warren Sirota wr= ote:

Another in a line of live loops with synced d= rums. in this case, I actually replaced the drum track after the fact with = something a bit more kicky. And laid in a bass part after the fact that is = now part of the live performance of the piece. The cycle of improvise-extra= ct-compose-perform (still with a lot of improvisation, but with a lot more = structure) is now complete (-able). I am loving the new workflow.

warrensirota.com/solostuff/ghosttown.mp3


Warren, I am enjoying both the workflow and the re= sult. I dig the "Warm and Cool" vibe of the piece.

All the best,

Loren Claypool
g= enre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
www.lorenclaypool.com and links fr= om there



<= /div>


--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_Artist= Id=3D6679
http://www.warrensirota.com
--0016362836d6338ad80469906faa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 16:49:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 264F03BE73; Sun, 10 May 2009 16:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905100740v5e4af7b9m5d7689b0f942d870@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60905100740v5e4af7b9m5d7689b0f942d870@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <373198bdb989046fff0f6ccb53931630@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Gigspam reminder: Jiim on uStream 11am EST Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:49:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <_rEExC.A.a-G.uWwBKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Sorry Jim, I'm on the West coast and didn't get up in time. As you may know, I've been ill too . . . and I overslept. I logged on and found I'd missed it by about an hour. Sorry. Ted On May 10, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > A reminder I'm doing a ustream feed in @24 min at 11am EST NY Time=20 > @6pm in UK, 8am in California. =A0My url=20 > is=A0=A0http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. > Tune in if you can. =A0Happy mother's day to all your Mom's. > > Jim > > --=20 > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 16:51:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58EC73BE77; Sun, 10 May 2009 16:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <101191640905091624t4220487aj1257a3d254ea9e0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640905091624t4220487aj1257a3d254ea9e0b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <33302ccaba8549c9c71158ff33f02856@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Live Looping Remix - Ghost Town Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:51:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Warren, Yuor Ghost Town sound like a happening little place. I like it. Hope you and yours are doing well. Ted On May 9, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Another in a line of live loops with synced drums. in this case, I > actually replaced the drum track after the fact with something a bit > more kicky. And laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part of > the live performance of the piece. The cycle of > improvise-extract-compose-perform (still with a lot of improvisation, > but with a lot more structure) is now complete (-able). I am loving > the new workflow. > > warrensirota.com/solostuff/ghosttown.mp3 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 16:54:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4166E3BE78; Sun, 10 May 2009 16:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6cd1f62739f8cdf4213730cf4b97ef2f@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:54:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, Thanks for sharing this link. It's been a long time since I gave much thought to this particular incarnation of Talking Heads. What an amazing band they were. Best, Ted On May 10, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > So I noticed there's this general conflict how to hold your electric > guitar, more specifically how long the shoulder strap should be. > Generally it's accepted that while having a long strap looks cooler > (and is thus indispensable for rock music), only with a short strap > good command of the instrument is possible - that's why all the jazz > cats etc. accept that they look stupid and have the guitar hanging at > chest level. > > Well, here's to prove different - a virtuoso guitarist with his > instrument at knee level: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8lFmsCXhg > > Rainer > > ps: yes, there is some looping relation... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 17:08:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B9DB3BE77; Sun, 10 May 2009 17:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 196758950/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.253.162/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.253.162 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8CAFamBkpPTv2i/2dsb2JhbAAIvxWNSoN+BYgq X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,324,1238972400"; d="scan'208";a="196758950" Message-ID: <4A070CC2.4070607@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:20:02 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > So I noticed there's this general conflict how to hold your electric > guitar, more specifically how long the shoulder strap should be. > Generally it's accepted that while having a long strap looks cooler > (and is thus indispensable for rock music), only with a short strap > good command of the instrument is possible - that's why all the jazz > cats etc. accept that they look stupid and have the guitar hanging at > chest level. > > Well, here's to prove different - a virtuoso guitarist with his > instrument at knee level: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8lFmsCXhg > > Rainer > > ps: yes, there is some looping relation... amazing gig! thanx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 17:51:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEC143BE79; Sun, 10 May 2009 17:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5128 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 10 May 2009 17:51:12 UTC Message-ID: <4A0700C3.6080504@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:28:51 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > So I noticed there's this general conflict how to hold your electric > guitar, more specifically how long the shoulder strap should be. > Generally it's accepted that while having a long strap looks cooler > (and is thus indispensable for rock music), only with a short strap > good command of the instrument is possible - that's why all the jazz > cats etc. accept that they look stupid and have the guitar hanging at > chest level. I suppose that's the equivalent of wearing pants that come up to your armpits, but it doesn't matter, because when you play jazz, nobody is looking at where you hold your guitar. We (a jazz group I play with) recently were looking at some gig pictures, and somebody commented that when anybody, regardless of instrument, plays a jazz solo, they look like they're, um, straining on the commode, though he didn't put it quite like that. That's what the audience looks at. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 17:55:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5444A3BE79; Sun, 10 May 2009 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5gmxwEZAFEVzkCqcIkgby/mtKi7b/OfvxYmlcnQM3AI=; b=V9/5EZK8L9c9WOQGvpUPNXvXeAj+JvJtQOXf+3DksTCXU/wN6P69fRqrHT08z0PYe+ 8NiM+7ppF+5jMtRSLSAX00GEtpjI/N/qthdzJ41lqdXhtocG/GkVurgZ1wrGFLVlsNyF oxdnUyN4UdoYMebsYTGaxGeH/OPTQRbSRCFt8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SWQPXRhrFaHcu7bUBfXaWDtRTYtrWOcpxVBoASfesX0LnqzaQr1zoHR9wkvMoYvP46 lWH8hMrA8Jz2mKhwtkdqW/7gWDiIo182wozXMLvQ7/Lp9kgGRCcoCgn5NaHFgBo+5gqC ubjVmmXuLWvewrHjCCaixAyny4y5bDznVrHm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <373198bdb989046fff0f6ccb53931630@charter.net> References: <9e0440a60905100740v5e4af7b9m5d7689b0f942d870@mail.gmail.com> <373198bdb989046fff0f6ccb53931630@charter.net> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:55:24 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905101055h709e2678ib7da700b9b5c0769@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gigspam reminder: Jiim on uStream 11am EST From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Ted so sweat - know its early for those west. Sorry you've been sick and hope passes soon. For You and those that missed watch playback at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11, there is a new highlight that I posted a bit ago. Jeff, steve thanx much for being there. Audio was tad distorted at first got better. There will be another one in @2 weeks. Best and thx guys, Jim On 5/10/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Sorry Jim, > > I'm on the West coast and didn't get up in time. > > As you may know, I've been ill too . . . and I overslept. > > I logged on and found I'd missed it by about an hour. > > Sorry. > > Ted > > > On May 10, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> A reminder I'm doing a ustream feed in @24 min at 11am EST NY Time >> @6pm in UK, 8am in California. =A0My url >> is=A0=A0http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. >> Tune in if you can. =A0Happy mother's day to all your Mom's. >> >> Jim >> >> -- >> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... >> >> music links... >> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >> www.myspace.com/jindream >> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic >> >> video work/editing... >> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >> >> social networking... >> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 18:02:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 475603BE75; Sun, 10 May 2009 18:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Message-id: <99096E48C26D43EEBF30B2DF90134857@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> <4A0700C3.6080504@gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 11:01:56 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Fuck, I gotta get a copy of that video. The bassist is funky as hell. Not Tina Weymouth. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Good" To: Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video > Rainer Straschill wrote: >> So I noticed there's this general conflict how to hold your electric >> guitar, more specifically how long the shoulder strap should be. >> Generally it's accepted that while having a long strap looks cooler >> (and is thus indispensable for rock music), only with a short strap >> good command of the instrument is possible - that's why all the jazz >> cats etc. accept that they look stupid and have the guitar hanging at >> chest level. > > I suppose that's the equivalent of wearing pants that come up to your > armpits, but it doesn't matter, because when you play jazz, nobody is > looking at where you hold your guitar. We (a jazz group I play with) > recently were looking at some gig pictures, and somebody commented that > when anybody, regardless of instrument, plays a jazz solo, they look like > they're, um, straining on the commode, though he didn't put it quite like > that. That's what the audience looks at. > > Brian > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 18:15:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AF113BE77; Sun, 10 May 2009 18:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9O9BLadIe+uY3cYZJYb3fBi4Aa5h+HTja+49aiKH5xc=; b=GlLrgCs/0OCxzAEH1Dqbco2SCH0IjbLJ+L5u3qoYkgzcfykoJMeoJWFWQ2kTBP0aUL QGOVsTAyWYh+NgmjRKpFFXHX67TyBNeu3cEwWMVkBoTcVKuDFVgb+cdjYfZG3P1gmOXj JHpTeuGmqLJV+Y4RpqRukn7fd2cVtpKCJt1tg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RjuuqcTrUBb5nG5Lhp8nA+02YUFfUhiAcTYzEdPR2Qj4kqucpElA0A35Pf1NxmSOMG mI0k/V5oBbKpdtwShJg8Xqx8AD3eSzkIa8Jk2Itg6OROdAQPh57dHb10cKYg6xbAsYGv uKLPepJXtO72nF1Q26JWGxND1DpJkHiJSEOBQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 11:14:59 -0700 Message-ID: <9ff9c5d10905101114p5b238267y71f3cecc85f58731@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video From: Nic Roozeboom To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cc6efa1e16046992d601 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:15:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cc6efa1e16046992d601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for that! Amazing mastery. Though I think he may have 'migrated upward' slightly since (probably from being around Fripp...) Also checked out Psycho Killer from the same concert. Lots of thela hun indiscipline towards the end... Nic On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > So I noticed there's this general conflict how to hold your electric > guitar, more specifically how long the shoulder strap should be. > Generally it's accepted that while having a long strap looks cooler > (and is thus indispensable for rock music), only with a short strap > good command of the instrument is possible - that's why all the jazz > cats etc. accept that they look stupid and have the guitar hanging at > chest level. > > Well, here's to prove different - a virtuoso guitarist with his > instrument at knee level: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8lFmsCXhg > > Rainer > > ps: yes, there is some looping relation... > > -- Nic Roozeboom http://www.fractal-continuum.com http://fractal-reviews.blogspot.com/ --0016e644cc6efa1e16046992d601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for that! Amazing mastery. Though I think he may have 'migrat= ed upward' slightly since (probably from being around Fripp...)

= Also checked out Psycho Killer from the same concert. Lots of thela hun ind= iscipline towards the end...

Nic

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:49 AM, = Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
So I noticed there's this general conflict how to hold your electric guitar, more specifically how long the shoulder strap should be.
Generally it's accepted that while having a long strap looks cooler
(and is thus indispensable for rock music), only with a short strap
good command of the instrument is possible - that's why all the jazz cats etc. accept that they look stupid and have the guitar hanging at
chest level.

Well, here's to prove different - a virtuoso guitarist with his
instrument at knee level:
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6g8lFmsCXhg

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

ps: yes, there is some looping relation...




--
Nic Roozeboom

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--0016e644cc6efa1e16046992d601-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 18:52:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D8E53BE73; Sun, 10 May 2009 18:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=PVzDJuGP/ED1bZVTiav9hreLaQVfw1nlRix+fzFNXF4BsxXxH4NYrljvzKi2XO9UeXUlJuQtDyO0DN2UTbR/z4To/aL+AYnVJtk7zVtKKOnTkRoJxqIlFDh5nKEgMiJEJKTBuC7wycNYy9arvpWht705P5qtEfaIXxOCb+fwELE= ; X-YMail-OSG: h3UGmI8VM1kxi0MNv_D2thQ2lAJSvRpxxZlXBRlIjWpqLNqWP49Fy2sR.DaZK_K7uwO_YekuPAtfNzg5Zi2uWWXj1.OER2ownWuvyAY7wyiz2wav5R5mWidt9ls743moOW3mp0EeNJ8DExgIxlrxViWmY_ameB0udP7_1VYa5fiJ9O9ot.eiGknHoek3N.s3qttKNLmUKnEZG3Bhs_Axb5Z1SXl0Pr2VswHjiRkPXSTO3s8LEKC54ley7PAnkHbj5zg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905101055h709e2678ib7da700b9b5c0769@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60905100740v5e4af7b9m5d7689b0f942d870@mail.gmail.com> <373198bdb989046fff0f6ccb53931630@charter.net> <9e0440a60905101055h709e2678ib7da700b9b5c0769@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--466141701 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Gigspam reminder: Jiim on uStream 11am EST Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:52:26 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:52:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--466141701 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello guys Live on Ustream in 10 minutes http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-=20 Stevens-From-The-Box-Room Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 10 May 2009, at 18:55, Jim Goodin wrote: > Ted so sweat - know its early for those west. Sorry you've been sick > and hope passes soon. > > For You and those that missed watch playback at > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11, there is a new > highlight that I posted a bit ago. > > Jeff, steve thanx much for being there. > > Audio was tad distorted at first got better. There will be another > one in @2 weeks. > > Best and thx guys, > > Jim > > On 5/10/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> Sorry Jim, >> >> I'm on the West coast and didn't get up in time. >> >> As you may know, I've been ill too . . . and I overslept. >> >> I logged on and found I'd missed it by about an hour. >> >> Sorry. >> >> Ted >> >> >> On May 10, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: >> >>> A reminder I'm doing a ustream feed in @24 min at 11am EST NY Time >>> @6pm in UK, 8am in California. My url >>> is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. >>> Tune in if you can. Happy mother's day to all your Mom's. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> -- >>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... >>> >>> music links... >>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >>> www.myspace.com/jindream >>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic >>> >>> video work/editing... >>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >>> >>> social networking... >>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic >> >> > > > --=20 > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-1--466141701 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello guys=A0

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 10 May 2009, = at 18:55, Jim Goodin wrote:

Ted so sweat - know its early for those west.=A0 Sorry you've been = sick
and hope passes soon.

For You = and those that missed watch playback at
highlight that I posted a bit ago.

Jeff, = steve thanx much for being there.

Audio was tad distorted at first = got better.=A0 There will = be another
one in @2 weeks.

Best and = thx guys,

Jim

On 5/10/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = <tedkillian@charter.net> = wrote:
Sorry = Jim,

I'm on the West coast and didn't get up in = time.

As you may know, I've been ill too . . . and I = overslept.

I logged on and found I'd missed it by about an = hour.

Sorry.

Ted


On May 10, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Jim = Goodin wrote:

=
A reminder I'm doing a = ustream feed in @24 min at 11am EST NY Time
@6pm in = UK, 8am in California. =A0My url
Tune in = if you can. =A0Happy mother's day to all your Mom's.


--
ReUse, an introspective = textural aural journey coming soon...

music = links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video = work/editing...

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
=




--=A0
ReUse, = an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music = links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video = work/editing...

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

=

= --Apple-Mail-1--466141701-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 19:44:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1D683BE7C; Sun, 10 May 2009 19:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2PK1/k77IgjAuaJNO8PaZBH31ALTD1SvgUKub3FspVc=; b=rsJSS2JqDeY2aK89yL1r2kedDEfAzbto6JTAaDvkpYzrqF9ZytXjNf9GMWVfCkglPI 8UAK+ROCfOBRvAGABEhy5loqithYb1LudwGpjWPOdNnqGS86nfLYo8KNMWhjXFTpm7nq 7hLAVzEs6RNoYVFpueb/yoxU6lWFtmnkkPScY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bcxw2k+pkWpNfKQMdkqw/moHx6uTm/3/4gnn5lTif9hR9Im3940qXxTAqv4e6OMsJQ z/O5DFDTVN11NsE4BCs0AELFOFhjhYc4kwqQYXACsB6DH6lqOrV0Bm0xivnxRtZYuJ/0 RUbaIdz0XwyTe7eX3J44Rz3yFA6QiPBuCNHlY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:44:28 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905101244i372a9767kbc8f6dd24cb6cb56@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Brian Good said: "I suppose that's the equivalent of wearing pants that come up to your armpits, but it doesn't matter, because when you play jazz, nobody is looking at where you hold your guitar." I remember that conversation I had with a friend of mine, who said that he didn't like what he called the "ECM jazz scene", because those players would go to a gig and sit there playing in a worn-out tee shirt and track pants, while the cats during the bebop scene (Parker etc.) would always make sure they donned a fancy suit. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 20:42:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B10783BE71; Sun, 10 May 2009 20:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Rainer Straschill'" , References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: proper way to hold you guitar - live video Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:42:57 -0700 Message-ID: <142016A4A5324687AD0B125DACCB8B73@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcnRomiBmv3UrKK7SqCGpyzf2QiskgACI6qw In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:42:56 +0000 (UTC) I really dug the Talking Heads, particularly during this period and collaborations with Eno. I love Adrian Belew's playing and I would have to agree with whoever suggested that Adrian's guitar position has drifted north over the years. Hold a Parker Fly too low and that top horn is liable to gouge your groin...ouch! but I digress. On closer look you will notice that he has long arms and his guitar neck is not horizontal, but tilted up at perhaps a 45 degree angle. You will also notice that his roll in that band was soloist and color commentary with some minimal rhythm playing, mostly involving upper four string voicing's and single note fills. He also does the thumb over thing perhaps inspired by Hendrix, as his whammy bar technique suggests. Not to take anything away from his unique and singularly creative approach, but there are plenty scales and chord voicings that would be a determent physically, to him or any player to try and play with the guitar slung that low. The proper way to hold the guitar varies with the individuals body type I believe, and the right way to hold a guitar should be about having it in the optimal position as to not cause any part of your body involved in that process undue stress. Sure Jimmy Page and Adrian Belew look cool with their guitars slung low, but I doubt either of those guys play that way in the studio, and I would imagine they both have suffered some wrist related injuries as a result of hyper extending their fretting hand wrists playing that way. At some point style should give way to common sense, but Rock and Roll has always been about rebellion, so for God's sake, sling your guitar low like Sid Vicious if that's what floats your boat. Me, I'll sling my guitar higher and play better and longer with less pain. Bill PS, check out Adrian's waistband up past his navel, geek city!! and perhaps creating more of an illusion that his guitar is slung lower than it is. And I disagree with whomever inferred Tina Weymouth wasn't funky, She and the other bass player are totally locked in playing the same parts, and she wrote them! the bassist seems to be adding the occasional slap bass accent, but Tina's Hofner short scale bass doesn't do that sound very well, but suits her small hands, speaking of great guitar playing David Byrne is the funky engine that drove that band, a highly underrated rhythm guitarist IMHO -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill [mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:49 AM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video So I noticed there's this general conflict how to hold your electric guitar, more specifically how long the shoulder strap should be. Generally it's accepted that while having a long strap looks cooler (and is thus indispensable for rock music), only with a short strap good command of the instrument is possible - that's why all the jazz cats etc. accept that they look stupid and have the guitar hanging at chest level. Well, here's to prove different - a virtuoso guitarist with his instrument at knee level: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8lFmsCXhg Rainer ps: yes, there is some looping relation... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 21:15:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFB303BE75; Sun, 10 May 2009 21:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 193487111/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.253.162/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.253.162 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8CAO7gBkpPTv2i/2dsb2JhbAAIzUuDfgWIKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,324,1238972400"; d="scan'208";a="193487111" Message-ID: <4A074686.1030503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:26:30 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Live Looping audio from Norwich 2008 LoopFest etc, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Just finished the Norwich 2008 LoopFest and More webpage http://www.andybutler.com/norwich2008.htm please visit and enjoy there's a whole lot of new stuff here, from familiar faces and beyond mp3s galore, a selection of some of the best stuff such as isn't available elsewhere, videos (which you may have seen already) and some vaguely explanatory text, OR you can just stream all the audio files with one click ( m3u ) http://www.andybutler.com/norwich2008.htm Hope you're inspired to organise your own event. andy butler tired now, goodnight From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 23:12:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 733FB3BE6F; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Exploring new Loooperlative features Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:12:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1338070B0D254594AEDF7EC32736FC88@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9D18A.22EF9B30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcnRxMwjtA4MrQyARJSX4XQiLZ1z9g== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:12:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9D18A.22EF9B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been recently digging in to the new Looperlative feature that Rick spoke of that allows you to set program change values for scalic sampling rate changes to the Looperlative that go beyond the already established half speed/normal speed sampling rate change. Not only can you assign a pc change to any twelve chromatic intervals, you also have octave below preset, which allows among other things to actually drop the sampling rate to .25 which equates to a sub octave. It also means one could start recording a loop from a sampling rate of .25 , meaning you can actually create loops that are 2 octaves above the original sampling rate. Of course as you change sampling rates, you change loop speed, so its not capable of time stretch without pitch alteration. But it has allowed me to create some really cool sub octave slow parts that remind me of the Repeaters cool pitch shifting ability with the same kind of odd yet cool sampling artifacts , for that cool, "metal being dragged across the bottom of the ocean" sound the Repeater was known for. Is also interesting to stay in record mode while shifting to the various intervals and adding content at the various sampling rates, things start getting really interested in a twisted and abstract sort of way. Kudos to Bob for implementing this feature and Rick for lobbying him to do so Bill ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9D18A.22EF9B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have been recently digging in to the new = Looperlative feature that Rick spoke of  that allows you to set program change = values for scalic sampling rate changes to the Looperlative that go beyond the = already established half speed/normal speed sampling rate change. Not only can = you assign a pc change to any twelve chromatic intervals, you also have = octave below preset, which allows among other things to actually drop the = sampling rate to .25  which equates to a sub octave. It also means one could = start  recording a loop from a sampling rate of .25 , meaning you can actually create = loops that are 2 octaves above the original sampling rate. Of course as you change sampling rates, you change loop speed, so its not capable of time = stretch without pitch alteration. But it has allowed me to create some really cool sub = octave slow parts that remind me of the Repeaters cool pitch shifting ability = with the same kind of odd yet cool sampling artifacts , for that cool, = “metal being dragged across the bottom of the ocean” sound the Repeater = was known for. Is also interesting to stay in record mode while shifting to = the various intervals and adding content at the various sampling rates, = things start getting really interested in a twisted and abstract sort of way. = Kudos to Bob for implementing this feature and Rick for lobbying him to do = so

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9D18A.22EF9B30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 23:13:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C6983BE46; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1241997225; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Scxi8u6FYYob2mkk4ljf/CnPRkQ=; b=IiuG2InzcOg3uyHfd4a9521BviVQqb2+PB9DLBOr3l9AIwjtrEpZ0ydp4qBmVWku homyqVyksiMxCXLb4TzIkPxlCCGgLW3dCZXY28+ejue1zNICHphO+vouz3c+xP/Q; X-BINDING: X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BVHqdYA43tQA:10 a=HFLGpS9hRZYA:10 a=-LAwFY1MAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=F1f4aVYuAAAA:8 a=4DGJneQTL2KVtjRzl2UA:9 a=zv2DuF7e7fr_0edJAw4A:7 a=oeYpjKwYbomiWfLkJKctqzsouhMA:4 a=NVHxADLwyewA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: To: Subject: RE: video interview on how i do it, up at wired Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:13:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <33BB8F91-BEE8-4EAA-A5F8-64C1CF622D37@zoekeating.com> thread-index: AcnMWVoaOCmwZWgfSKGtOZm2jywzOAFa0Irg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Wow! What an informative interview... And your song/video titled "Escape Artist" is an amazing composition. Regards, Ed in NJ -----Original Message----- From: Zoe Keating [mailto:info@zoekeating.com] Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:39 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: video interview on how i do it, up at wired hi loopers, wired just posted the video they took of me looping and chatting in my studio a couple weeks ago: http://www.wired.com/video/latest-videos/latest/1815816633/avantgarde-cellis t-zoe-keating/21830486001 best, zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 10 23:13:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2ACE3BE84; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D9VAxlkiHdqrkFcq67HVHOThte15gymMK490MLx8MZY=; b=FkCVoZf5mlRtgUdItI1TrKP6ze4glPeIjut6AI+B2YJ5kMMzxs4hmYZeRI0ay4fiJu u5k9R4M9OchrtGhGThaM810PglhgzKBz13dTrM3RI85QHfsDDvtJaz8dqu+0ihObVuu1 e+vjpdB0FVjb6MHQPkbeTPcaGyMejze2MxHh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KLySbzGkOvVHRcmMPumBwxa7lA8qi/zKULwOl4Jdmp4atYHPPbSEYHsorBvFBbdN40 umHFMQ99h0Xa63CzGZrpXbGkYwZN/MgE3KF6ZpPMzoB2Rce+1D7TYnNRnAQnXfRhV52R Z5xl8qVPkhkvMGgVWe1qVVlJRGyd1pnWG+w3s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 01:13:30 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9CFirst_Meeting=E2=80=9D_trio_concert_downloads?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2CQgsC.A.i_B.v-1BKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:13:51 +0000 (UTC) One night in Mars 2009 I met up with these two guys to play a completely improvised concert together. They had been playing together before, but not with me, so I was excited not to know whatever to expect on stage. It turned out great fun though and someone was even recording it. We=E2=80=99d like to share these eight pieces that were born = on stage that night. Link: http://is.gd/yFmE Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 01:36:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1DB43BE71; Mon, 11 May 2009 01:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_=93First_Meeting=94_trio_concert_downloads?= Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:36:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 01:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Per, Nice work . . . sounds great. But there was only 7 pieces . . . number 5 seems to be missing. Thanks for sharing though. I've always enjoyed you work. Best, Ted On May 10, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > One night in Mars 2009 I met up with these two guys to play a > completely improvised concert together. They had been playing together > before, but not with me, so I was excited not to know whatever to > expect on stage. It turned out great fun though and someone was even > recording it. We=92d like to share these eight pieces that were born = on > stage that night. Link: http://is.gd/yFmE > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 01:38:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C5583BE78; Mon, 11 May 2009 01:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lOAtnEpIgpbSTW+5/71SoWdiFrUyWjAyNX9leFBk8dc=; b=SD3aJgD3/Uf/0FhEF5LaGdw03AELX1EsuPQxvvt73IQrvkvkGu1jwDpBcioUhx1Dzm plsInu0IpSxtdLk7Vwdx7/EVdVmFKOJ+1FLpcms/fUY/u3VzPBfEtgDXFv6K0YiuszTG qj+0OPgAgNMKGRYfgUECAMuTWZf/6X0YRb+ik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzSx+v70uMMMeHdaufR6ex/pQbGdD41jq/5n9p7UK/geneTId32G7WysC5mnq/ycQK kpTA0dEEjoVjWfdyU5dxo/binrmvFWDD31dZ3xLObNNtudQO9V0O3g3Y4YBbxXldG628 Yx4odkBnHbqji2wt1qiifG63IOgEwfCykfIRE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A074686.1030503@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A074686.1030503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 03:38:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live Looping audio from Norwich 2008 LoopFest etc, From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 01:38:12 +0000 (UTC) surfing now ... thanks andy! 2009/5/10, andy butler : > Just finished the Norwich 2008 LoopFest and More webpage > > http://www.andybutler.com/norwich2008.htm > > please visit and enjoy > there's a whole lot of new stuff here, from familiar faces and beyond > > mp3s galore, a selection of some of the best stuff such as isn't > available elsewhere, > videos (which you may have seen already) > > and some vaguely explanatory text, > > OR > you can just stream all the audio files with one click ( m3u ) > > > http://www.andybutler.com/norwich2008.htm > > Hope you're inspired to organise your own event. > > andy butler > tired now, goodnight > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 02:04:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF1B43BE7C; Mon, 11 May 2009 02:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DMudxryYZWm8PZAucrNT2KXlFK4aZacqGakpvC8oU0Y=; b=LaWex/b2se6DIsGVKBc8S33bD/GtFFKjpNFwVN0ddcb/dhMOW/2pKwi8DB1YnURmsj UnGnTdNGqPbU/JL9R6llHvnd0BjQ6h+bCHFDyKO61DPK+Vl8pICusc/7GvODGkD8kJG3 YPYtt/tu70bD99lZJNAjo2HjFoRwhfOPFbg5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gtAq4Kf2oQ4MhFYLbCseVdf93T3Niaw1EkyVKpG3PuOkNvbuH0c+RWQJN/06jqgLN8 863KgQUt9SMKVgR84sMJFjh/h3QqRhIOc3lx+iCNiVSlf1VS9SNWMKeoUsAPXv+A+hsm qiXgySckhzX0LfpQGSlfiEO8ogtOzttiwbmbA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <33302ccaba8549c9c71158ff33f02856@charter.net> References: <101191640905091624t4220487aj1257a3d254ea9e0b@mail.gmail.com> <33302ccaba8549c9c71158ff33f02856@charter.net> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:04:02 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a163baa7dbf2e039 Message-ID: <101191640905101904m116d64caj87b339c1f006d0c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live Looping Remix - Ghost Town From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361649e765fed004699964bc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 02:04:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016361649e765fed004699964bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ted, for the kind words. All is going well here. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > Warren, > > Yuor Ghost Town sound like a happening little place. > > I like it. > > Hope you and yours are doing well. > > Ted > > On May 9, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > > Another in a line of live loops with synced drums. in this case, I >> actually replaced the drum track after the fact with something a bit mor= e >> kicky. And laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part of the li= ve >> performance of the piece. The cycle of improvise-extract-compose-perform >> (still with a lot of improvisation, but with a lot more structure) is no= w >> complete (-able). I am loving the new workflow. >> >> warrensirota.com/solostuff/ghosttown.mp3 >> >> > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016361649e765fed004699964bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ted, for the kind words. All is going well here.

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.= net> wrote:
Warren,

Yuor Ghost Town sound like a happening little place.

I like it.

Hope you and yours are doing well.

Ted


On May 9, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Warren Sirota wrote:

Another in a line of live loops with synced drums. in this case, I actually= replaced the drum track after the fact with something a bit more kicky. An= d laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part of the live performan= ce of the piece. The cycle of improvise-extract-compose-perform (still with= a lot of improvisation, but with a lot more structure) is now complete (-a= ble). I am loving the new workflow.

warrensirota.com/solostuff/ghosttown.mp3





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Warren
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http://www.warrensirota.com
--0016361649e765fed004699964bc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 06:51:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E27C23BE73; Mon, 11 May 2009 06:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <15a8d792152807968f3b5339ca4f854d.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FS: Waldorf Q (original full keyboard) $550 From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "AH" , "Loopers Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <79LtdC.A.25E.Vr8BKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 06:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Well first of all I thank everyone who helped with suggestions regarding fixing the encoders on the Waldorf keyboards. I did fix a few perfectly but I am too heart broken to go through with fighting with this beast. I bought it "fully working" with the 32 voice upgrade and it turned out the seller was lying about both things. I'm damn sick over this and just want this gone. It's gotten emotional and my idiotic loss is your gain. The details: Original full keyboard version (NOT the micro Q the original big one). 16 voices. Yellow. latest OS and Boot files loaded and working. Some knobs still a bit glitchy but every one I opened and cleaned worked with three exceptions. I think there is some other issue with those but am no longer going to work on this. All the buttons light up and everything else I tried worked. Sold as is. Display, outputs, etc all working fine. Sounds %&^$#in amazing. Incredibly well laid out (reminds me of the old ensoniq SQ80 layout) and very intuitive yet deep. You can find all the info on the Q you'd want online at sonicstate, etc etc. here's a demo video from synthtopia: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/05/09/exploring-the-waldorf-q-keyboard/ I am bleeding and asking $550 obo for a quick sale. Will accept USPS MO or paypal (Buyer pays fees). If it doesn't sell quickly I'll post it on Ebay but will need to add the ^%# fees and such so this is the cheapest I will let it go. Buyer picks up @Phila pa (will drive a bit to meet) or pays estimated shipping upfront and some minor packing costs. This is heavy so keep that in mind. I will charge exact fees for shipping, etc. and return any of the estimate not spent. I have references out the wazoo. I am sure this amazing keyboard will make someone very happy and can be an excellent addition to your studio. Thanks for reading. D_ ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 07:24:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 044043BE71; Mon, 11 May 2009 07:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 196608721/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.197.97/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.197.97 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMCADNvB0pPRsVh/2dsb2JhbAAIzB2DfgWIKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,327,1238972400"; d="scan'208";a="196608721" Message-ID: <4A07D551.8010506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:35:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features References: <1338070B0D254594AEDF7EC32736FC88@williamsteed> In-Reply-To: <1338070B0D254594AEDF7EC32736FC88@williamsteed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 07:24:11 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > sampling rate. Of course as you change sampling rates, you change loop > speed, so its not capable of time stretch without pitch alteration. But > it has allowed me to create some really cool sub octave slow parts that > remind me of the Repeaters cool pitch shifting ability with the same > kind of odd yet cool sampling artifacts , for that cool, “metal being > dragged across the bottom of the ocean” sound the Repeater was known > for. Strange, there shouldn't be a lot of artefacts if there's no stretching. Just a bit of aliasing perhaps if you record slow, and play back at high speed. Would be fascinating to know which interpolation algorithm produces the "Repeater" sound, I'd always assumed it was the time stretch varying it's grain size in a somewhat haphazard way. andy butler ps Bill, this reply via LD, so don't mention the war. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 07:39:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2F6D3BE75; Mon, 11 May 2009 07:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0YkbIUJUxCYx5WPF+H/OX3Q3bFSjphNxFiXsWUguRqM=; b=uPZRBsxpoQBdgg+5t6uiv94VMIwOWxLcOLekSLxBA+7NR3G24yqF+kObm4uk2v115e E6UCZvitIPCSsrUyX+eTPQo0IpWEkN6mU5/LhOQd9kTosuQfeiZoJluWlOA0jvlBgEpM HD6HlHscu13K8fP3ZdBRxISIR+Tr7CbI2AXK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a0xNCp2pLPDS9XDnydDw7fzu4EhywlkxJkogtupY9IuLLm1XcYGRUY1oyMqz6C5tCb /xKaELAw1DL+djyzV1Jhg0Xa8bmlB+HFo7ORo1R8/hFpu6zFdDr8AdHdQ6hC/c4omwNN WA8KRFeagGEGbMXjWp9Xo70vUKviswL1cH4ZI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:39:22 +0200 Message-ID: <146cdfa70905110039n64c88712h983058bbe2345575@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video From: Marco Ronci To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64402a0a91b0a04699e1387 Resent-Message-ID: <00A3_D.A.94F.qY9BKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 07:39:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64402a0a91b0a04699e1387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rainer, Thank you for making me remember that great concert ! What a show it was!!!! Marco 2009/5/10 Rainer Straschill > Well, here's to prove different - a virtuoso guitarist with his > instrument at knee level: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8lFmsCXhg > > Rainer > > ps: yes, there is some looping relation... > > --0016e64402a0a91b0a04699e1387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer,
Thank you for making me remember that great concert !
What a = show it was!!!!

Marco


2009/5/1= 0 Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>
Well, here's to prove different - a virtuoso guitarist with his
instrument at knee level:
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6g8lFmsCXhg

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

ps: yes, there is some looping relation...


--0016e64402a0a91b0a04699e1387-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 08:00:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E57363BE7C; Mon, 11 May 2009 08:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yT3uinUxa44Dsk4uohm0/12u21QG91TYvTlsFep6nEw=; b=wCwQ/SbU//f3b/OTg2in5Azso7U+HvxU6CXW3BobyJ22X0s/f6Zx4dl/V7igBqdNrD pxUMp9aVHGtZBH0xVlELDCYg1m8JhseJCgOLRA2rlM2C6ixG8Z4OJhejUYmbjg05ZKP/ wu2T6JOWlkEZJlBAF+3PWBcOp5mUcMom2jbPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kFMXaUsUAuSayeLtmltNROSCOjG3AoHBPkANVPsP/HUgroHH7IoAvshq4e8q0mYer2 Yv6oa2SQ3DKcpz5gR6uFMk1i3kGZl/TwQmgr5w6kHOeVzNT8imJ7W3nJ2kcrLKwyAT74 ipI7FRwu8gcyLFhCdLuXyHV4LRSBUkWJmBMhk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:00:39 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905110100x7044401dxd3e2c6cbdc2402c5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=E2=80=9CFirst_Meeting=E2=80=9D_trio_concert_downloads?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:00:39 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:36 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: >>Link: http://is.gd/yFmE > But there was only 7 pieces . . . number 5 seems to be missing. Woops, where did no 5 go? We never noticed that during the gig. Must have been some weird John Cage-ish stuff not showing up in the records.... Thanks for the alert eye, I've changed the sum of songs to seven now on the page. Per <:-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 08:10:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D13C3BE72; Mon, 11 May 2009 08:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oxrw3PbI7TvqugyLNRbJFeHuqJTR8B7+yB1gjbK/0OM=; b=PDH/25hmo4srpFKXoGwa/fgOMcwGrhKOr7phB6fjGrrrNLNvZBFiEJmyh4VvsKDsC/ 6nNHyu0T3uRUaLRy61lJLRIQfoExc3UIQsI7/MlvIE9n7PADJvvBesN84sKTLc4juSWL 8jVr4FWxibpor4ZAZy656BtshnRUPGT/ODDW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L7Pz6s6Qrww9R4DvqGK3FhhW3x7O12XQlI5IL0CaLC2lqyVoOpbhO41jze6IW8E13N yGGC+moffPYYsmOGApIyfYttBN2UN+zRI56gu9FU7KFXrkKAsUQR//MBsGgpd0pc2OWo Ewa8pTcyXy/aiZdcXaDFN40kaNKqXtxnBhkGo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A07D551.8010506@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1338070B0D254594AEDF7EC32736FC88@williamsteed> <4A07D551.8010506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:10:49 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905110110w2f1e25dfsfe10dd3f563287a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:10:49 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:35 AM, andy butler wrote: > Would be fascinating to know which interpolation algorithm produces > the "Repeater" sound, I'd always assumed it was the time stretch varying > it's grain size in a somewhat haphazard way. Yes, having owned a Repeater for a couple of years I can affirm that those lovely artefacts are the bi product of time stretching - not just speed (or rate) shifting. If you do a lot of stretching in the Repeater the file structure is changed and the loop doesn't sound the same at normal pitch any more. This tells for some harsh interpolation going on. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 08:36:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B233B3BE87; Mon, 11 May 2009 08:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:36:33 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Bidule Audio File Recorder MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Currently, I use a Boss Micro Br for this. Does anyone use the Bidule Aud= io File Recorder to record live gigs? Would you recommend that in terms o= f the extra system load? It is stable? It's just an idea I had to further= reduce the hardware I use. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 08:48:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D717D3BE98; Mon, 11 May 2009 08:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=20fQ9O/XtJgei6M5HIZcVRa9K2JC6UQ/008EHS6by00=; b=Wcf2buDeEle55NyanC/Ko5PYy3UqcyPDhGIbA1oRVkhVQ+M5dll1O7QpOGb1Ou9MC2 y9UFwXw9b54OeTjKmQrz6f69oK9uv1FeywXsE3JJm50cpWk0BPkfuAqYtLrd4KPlwLJW 4LRzhiuuV/Z6SsW8VZah6haYCBFKiQNnCD/uE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UmPqnV29d2qkDRLj8I20kZzOAYL55mbgj2bfAfUZcHzDrni6WKfxGmYY7OEn7p7+iL dumnPj4ScYbqx0isQM8dvtgQJo46KKTT39Zs7RpVjcwhahOR+GiKP67JDw9BgcQ4pXr5 scRZ4qXzMTrdDMtLgXK/VgVbQGXVzrRGlRtSQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:48:11 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905110148p7fc532fawca35c51e7f10cb7a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bidule Audio File Recorder From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:48:11 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Sjaak wrote: > Currently, I use a Boss Micro Br for this. Does anyone use the Bidule Audio File Recorder to record live gigs? Would you recommend that in terms of the extra system load? It is stable? It's just an idea I had to further reduce the hardware I use. I've used Bidule's File Recorder to render nine stereo files to disc while playing a full Mobius eight looping tracks plus my live instrument input in stereo. I think I've been playing for about half an hour at the longest and never seen any bad sides like instability or reduced CPU powers. I was really amazed to find out about that. Mobius file recorder is also nice, if you don't want to bother with separated files but just get a stereo of the looper output sum. (3 commands to assign to keys: "Start Recording", "Stop Recording", "Save Recording"). Weather or not you are monitoring through Mobius the resulting stereo file will, or will not, include your live input together with the looping. I've done this when recording live in the studio and I guess it would work the same on the stage. But I don't - so for that reason I don't record on stage. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From vputnam@sio.midco.net Mon May 11 09:10:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 313 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 11 May 2009 09:10:32 UTC Received: from iron9.midco.net (iron9.midco.net [24.220.0.97]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DA03BE71 for ; Mon, 11 May 2009 09:10:20 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoqAJOHB0oY3AARXWdsb2JhbACBL5RobyMhQoV9rgSDfgU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,327,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="306737327" Received: from webmail1.midco.net ([24.220.0.17]) by out.vip.midco.net with ESMTP; 11 May 2009 04:05:08 -0500 Received: from 84-254-189-80.ip.skylogicnet.com (84-254-189-80.ip.skylogicnet.com [84.254.189.80]) by mail.midco.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 11 May 2009 04:05:07 -0500 Message-ID: <20090511040507.ka0xjy640sksgss0@mail.midco.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 04:05:07 -0500 From: vputnam@sio.midco.net Reply-to: mrs.lindahill@w.cn To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: ATM 822.. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-Initial-Protocol: oKGXl6OZl5mZoXGnmQ== X-Universal-Interop-Destination: 3t3e2dzG1qjU0bKd1rnMxNiYpNTj The sum of 6,800,000.00 $ have been accredited and approved in your favor contact Linda Hill with Your name.age,location/country,phone number to her EMAIL: mrs.lindahill@w.cn Mr.David Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 09:14:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 042C53BE87; Mon, 11 May 2009 09:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3B475B9149D949F4B99AEE36B6B86278@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: References: <66f9cc1e0905110148p7fc532fawca35c51e7f10cb7a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bidule Audio File Recorder Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:14:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp7.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: <6aw0nD.A.bO.mx-BKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:14:14 +0000 (UTC) I currently use the Bidule's Audio File Recorder happily, even playing-recording continuosly for an hour or so. I use it when I play in my studio and, for some strange reason, not in live context, till now... If I well remeber, it is possible to record separately each single audio file coming from your looper tracks, which give you the ability to do some mixing work later, but I've never tried it. I raccomend it. Fabio www.livelooping.it www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Bidule Audio File Recorder > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Sjaak wrote: >> Currently, I use a Boss Micro Br for this. Does anyone use the Bidule >> Audio File Recorder to record live gigs? Would you recommend that in >> terms of the extra system load? It is stable? It's just an idea I had to >> further reduce the hardware I use. > > I've used Bidule's File Recorder to render nine stereo files to disc > while playing a full Mobius eight looping tracks plus my live > instrument input in stereo. I think I've been playing for about half > an hour at the longest and never seen any bad sides like instability > or reduced CPU powers. I was really amazed to find out about that. > > Mobius file recorder is also nice, if you don't want to bother with > separated files but just get a stereo of the looper output sum. (3 > commands to assign to keys: "Start Recording", "Stop Recording", "Save > Recording"). Weather or not you are monitoring through Mobius the > resulting stereo file will, or will not, include your live input > together with the looping. > > I've done this when recording live in the studio and I guess it would > work the same on the stage. But I don't - so for that reason I don't > record on stage. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.24/2108 - Release Date: 05/11/09 05:52:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 09:15:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03BD13BE8C; Mon, 11 May 2009 09:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:15:31 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re:Exploring new Loooperlative features MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:15:33 +0000 (UTC) > Bill Walker wrote: > I have been recently digging in to the new Looperlative feature that Ri= ck > spoke of that allows you to set program change values for scalic sampl= ing > rate changes to the Looperlative that go beyond the already established= half > speed/normal speed sampling rate change. Not only can you assign a pc c= hange > to any twelve chromatic intervals, you also have octave below preset, w= hich > allows among other things to actually drop the sampling rate to .25 wh= ich > equates to a sub octave. Bill, I was just wondering in what way this feature differs from programm= ing a Midi CC pedal with value 84 which is about a Fith. You could also u= se the halfspeed function and a expression pedal assigned to "Speed" to g= et 1/4 of the original track speed. That's how I used it before OS 1.37 c= ame out. Or does the new feature offer extra things? > Is also interesting to stay in record mode while > shifting to the various intervals and adding content at the various sam= pling > rates, things start getting really interested in a twisted and abstract= sort > of way. Kudos to Bob for implementing this feature and Rick for lobbyin= g him > to do so Absolutely. Changing speed is a cool feature of the LP1. I especially lik= e the harsh and gritty artifacts the LP1 produces when adding content in = overdub mode while changing speed up/down (fast). I have to thank you for= above tip! :) Btw: I programmed a random speed switch on the Gordius LG. That's works v= ery well for abrupt speed changes and it also allows you to manually "syn= c" the change in de loop. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 09:26:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66CB23BE46; Mon, 11 May 2009 09:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9D2347A2A8F540188C808806442975EE@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: Cc: References: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_=E2=80=9CFirst_Meeting=E2=80=9D_trio_concert?= =?UTF-8?Q?_downloads?= Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:26:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp6.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:26:10 +0000 (UTC) You made my morning, Per. Moving atmospheres (First, Fourth, Sixth) and each sound is perfectly balanced. Really good. Any video recordings ? Fabio www.livelooping.it www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:13 AM Subject: “First Meeting†trio concert downloads One night in Mars 2009 I met up with these two guys to play a completely improvised concert together. They had been playing together before, but not with me, so I was excited not to know whatever to expect on stage. It turned out great fun though and someone was even recording it. We’d like to share these eight pieces that were born on stage that night. Link: http://is.gd/yFmE Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-Initial-Protocol: oKGXl6OZl5mZoXGnmQ== X-Universal-Interop-Destination: 3t3e2dzG1qjU0bKd1rnMxNiYpNTj The sum of 6,800,000.00 $ have been accredited and approved in your favor contact Linda Hill with Your name.age,location/country,phone number to her EMAIL:atm_centerpayment@yahoo.com.hk Mr.David Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 10:19:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A38B3BE77; Mon, 11 May 2009 10:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 479 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 11 May 2009 10:19:23 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_98b65c61-ae36-4f49-b1db-1772ab1e8c3c_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:_=93First?= =?Windows-1252?Q?_Meeting=94_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?trio_conce?= =?Windows-1252?Q?rt_downloa?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ds?= Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:11:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2009 10:11:24.0330 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6EB48A0:01C9D220] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:19:24 +0000 (UTC) --_98b65c61-ae36-4f49-b1db-1772ab1e8c3c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Listening and enjoying this right now=2C very nice I love the mood and deve= lopment=2C THanks=20 =20 > From: perboysen@gmail.com >=20 > One night in Mars 2009 I met up with these two guys to play a > completely improvised concert together. 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= --_98b65c61-ae36-4f49-b1db-1772ab1e8c3c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 10:21:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A91B3BE81; Mon, 11 May 2009 10:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 03:21:09 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:21:09 +0000 (UTC) A friend of mine asked me, recently, what books have truly and deeply influenced my music in my life and, amongst other titles, I sang him the praises of Shinryu Suzuki's book called, "Zen Mind , Beginners' Mind". Though not as famous a D T Suzuki who was the great popularizer of Japanese Zen Buddhism in the west, I prefer Shunryu Suzuki, the head of the San Francisco Zen Center who wrote perhaps the best single book on practicing a musical instrument, "Zen Mind, Beginners' Mind". He never actually wrote a book and certainly not on praciticing a musical instrument.....he was too zen for that...lol, but his students recorded his answers to a public question and answer seminar where everyone asked him how he was able to master meditating successfully considering that it is so difficult to still the human mind when trying to do such an extremely simple, non-intellectual and repetitive practice. If you take that book and substitute the word 'Zazen' (the Buddhistic practice of meditating only on your breath and how we breathe, in and out) and put musical "practice", it's an incredibly wise book about how to still the mind so that one can play something over and over and over until one's technique improves significantly. I'd try to paraphrase his philosophy and his understanding of how to get around the projecting and over identifying/attached nature of the human mind, particularly viz a vis the practice of repetitive musical playing but I just wouldn't come close to how profound that book is. I actually ritualistically purchase a copy of it and give it as a present to all of my advanced students when they first develop the desire to really woodshed their instrument deeply and are having troubles stilling their minds doing so. It was my bible when I finally was able to master double stroke bouncing exercises on trapset many years ago At that time, I had a practice pad on a stand with two identical drumsticks in every single room of the house (including the kitchen and the bathroom) so that if I ever looked down, I could just pick the sticks up and continue practicing. I can't more highly recommend it. It has changed my life and the life of dozens of my really good students over the last three decades. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 12:22:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEC303BE7C; Mon, 11 May 2009 12:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mQR3dvWNHVZfClx1cIIO4o4UUcBAC6WlUEUC/hk76h0=; b=jFy/jIKOL1AXU+VV0cP+Js0Zj7l0sLhdv8L8k8UiI2Y1LwcJhFg+4d0ZV56JAkM8YQ V+0geW5pRInNKQGSwyUH7RhLIaXapUdwvpe2w74uVGovUyIOi5MAfldAxQXuB1R8kw8L yWoJmSYimVO2dCFpdEMiHtWIm/0Deps8YD5BA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZwHflWgQw/Wj4eAlHpAQ2Ib/1Y7lM80YpdBYdEsBgJdx3+q/tYirqWRxJPhZ/vhH+r eZmCzGsAtU6vqdZbzSwFTyRfjMH8REQx8eSpTsQB7Z7tyAgmqSR9AaQixq3/G07nVfia VOrgcAS8WXCJxJKwetWokxyUiM8abKMUntTDc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:22:34 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905110522o5ce130b1s2bbfaaf34b654b4f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Rick that was inspiring and brought to mind a related journey. Several years ago when I first moved to NY I looked up classical guitarist/composer Fred Hand to study with him. During one study with many things going in my life at that point I was having trouble calming some anxiety that was coming through my instrument. He told me you have to learn to 'fall still' and left me with that to think about. About 5 years later I began to figure that out partly with musical maturity, partly with the fear of something being taken away from me and partly with the help of therapist Richard Schaub who is Zen based. >From @1996 I began to really make progress in my muse that I don't think would have happened without learning to 'fall still'. Good day to all Jim On 5/11/09, Rick Walker wrote: > A friend of mine asked me, recently, what books have truly and deeply > influenced my music > in my life and, amongst other titles, I sang him the praises of > Shinryu Suzuki's book called, > "Zen Mind , Beginners' Mind". > > Though not as famous a D T Suzuki who was the great popularizer of > Japanese Zen Buddhism in the > west, I prefer Shunryu Suzuki, the head of the San Francisco Zen > Center who > wrote perhaps the best single book on practicing a musical instrument, > "Zen Mind, Beginners' Mind". > > He never actually wrote a book and certainly not on praciticing a > musical instrument.....he was too zen for that...lol, > but his students recorded his answers to a public question and answer > seminar where everyone asked him how > he was able to master meditating successfully considering that it is so > difficult to still the human mind when > trying to do such an extremely simple, non-intellectual and repetitive > practice. > > If you take that book and substitute the word 'Zazen' (the Buddhistic > practice of > meditating only on your breath and how we breathe, in and out) and put > musical "practice", it's an incredibly > wise book about how to still the mind so that one can play something > over and over > and over until one's technique improves significantly. > > I'd try to paraphrase his philosophy and his understanding of how to > get around the projecting and over identifying/attached nature of the > human mind, particularly > viz a vis the practice of repetitive musical playing but I just > wouldn't come close to > how profound that book is. > > I actually ritualistically purchase a copy of it and give it as a > present to all of my advanced students > when they first develop the desire to really woodshed their instrument > deeply and are having troubles > stilling their minds doing so. > > It was my bible when I finally was able to master double stroke bouncing > exercises on trapset many years ago > At that time, I had a practice pad on a stand with two identical > drumsticks in every single room of the house > (including the kitchen and the bathroom) so that if I ever looked down, > I could just pick the sticks up and continue > practicing. > > I can't more highly recommend it. It has changed my life and the life > of dozens of my really good students over the > last three decades. > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 12:28:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68BF13BE7F; Mon, 11 May 2009 12:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: Bidule Audio File Recorder Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:28:20 +0200 Message-ID: <005e01c9d233$f8935520$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnSM8b2YAHnJAS8QP+0Cax9Xri9EAAABgmw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:28:22 +0000 (UTC) > Does anyone use the Bidule Audio File Recorder to record live gigs? I use it and so far, no problems. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 13:01:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B02DD3BE7C; Mon, 11 May 2009 13:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:01:05 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Bidule Audio File Recorder MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" Cc: "Loopers-Delight" , "ij089083" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, that's good news. Btw: I just did a test on a Windows laptop with= Bidule (not not my regular Macbook) while running all kind of developing= software and I recorded a 940Mb drone which is 1.5 hours of music. Seems= to work well. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 13:15:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CB663BE79; Mon, 11 May 2009 13:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ufl9swfrbDaHYQpptGTA+kfVS9f+T+1bMdbe1WigXN4=; b=MmyxeRhuceZ7V6OxVP/V9sGdI5yuP3UpgmkmUxOGnxzUK/2Wm8naZ/5x50xxj74Ltd bA/QqPeO+zX3S27PtWe64JUXB583Civ7mYW6Kk23Sxs38BhZe9BqsMKqeXnr4KnPPh1D mW1ewC1M7TCt/tBeQJtH9Nv9Q0FXFC1+T+W9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NBEj9DzLyyPybq0zyCiHn+dwK9odrOoj90QdKuNf0Hv4n7qkSvsNrOCZxmtYC5AlOu QYRPgUKiDpT3ldxNWQqbd1klZvO4SRTvoelnqRxiHEMXU6Zw91opdN7Hxc8aaaqpvqx9 URaSIxoL6YLUoYGJh8uyHUOs1J1t32xgx4adE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:15:25 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905110615m6a78f324n88581047aa2b71e6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bidule Audio File Recorder From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:15:25 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Btw: I just did a test on a Windows laptop with Bidule (not not my regular Macbook) while running all kind of developing software and I recorded a 940Mb drone which is 1.5 hours of music. Seems to work well. No doubt! In my limited testing I have found that Bidule is a little more CPU efficient under Windows than OS X. My layman guess is that it has to do with the recent state of Bidule's dual core support. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 13:57:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDF573BE75; Mon, 11 May 2009 13:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 457 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 11 May 2009 13:57:17 UTC Reply-To: From: "Joey Edwin" To: Subject: Online Looping School & More! Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:49:51 -0500 Organization: Joey Edwin Message-ID: <178D47CF103E4AAFA188976528010A3B@office> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C9D215.728980D0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnSP1sa370GCT9nTpG0o+iv5+GLlQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:57:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C9D215.728980D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, I currently perform 250+ shows per year using my Loop Pedal. 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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C9D215.728980D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 14:36:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47A053BE73; Mon, 11 May 2009 14:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=uZqFe/FwSXVh29hvB4AJqOrecB1LF8crpltupA9diG8Wss+GW+kgwEH2fk9VxbLhGJI6cuNPXG3G5sWVkT+jYZmm5/0pa1AcWH8OVZ5LOQQMpcAeKtVFRGvSNzmZiyC9pUa5UrwmBukSaEHy993b5KjvA2K9IvaGh0AXIGZ3tcU= ; X-YMail-OSG: eC9UPfgVM1ka86KohSeRagyWYfnTaSubbaRu.KoshyMimF_VZNOsWE1BZagLn9xIJys_Ed8ZBJtOsgFHam8_AnSRZ3t9DUC5_wuU9pKRGgaMjJpWmoiUcZXI2FUd3vx.Odd0NH7LyZD.oYMs7k4Q_V4_u0.CRQ_OB_X9WWvLtPrNT33cvB7yuz5CCw4RbrBqXKBkHuRNmlBoEjP8MtGjstuX_SiSSk15Mb0_sv6yMc2lRJlVRs6MJAlCQdjopFaeJQNrR_k1jXAGFZppo5LG_pQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "murkie" To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: Great Books... (Bruford Autobiography Spoiler Alert) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:36:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcnSIjgtvuvkuulGStehZsssA2wYHgAIvWcQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Not sure what long term impact it will have on my music (it's already having some immediate impact) but Bill Bruford's recently published autobiography is a fascinating read. Though it is a bit of a downer watching one of your favourite drummers slowly lose interest and eventually abandon his instrument. m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 14:43:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A55CE3BE71; Mon, 11 May 2009 14:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1338070B0D254594AEDF7EC32736FC88@williamsteed> References: <1338070B0D254594AEDF7EC32736FC88@williamsteed> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:43:05 +0900 To: , From: Mech Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:43:12 +0000 (UTC) At 4:12 PM -0700 5/10/09, William Walker wrote: >Of course as you change sampling rates, you change loop speed, so >its not capable of time stretch without pitch alteration. "...by itself", you might add. ;) I've mentioned before that you can get time stretch effects by using this function in the Looperlative along with another effect unit that does pitch transposition. It's simple: record a line, then (for example) drop it down one octave. This will slow the loop to half-speed at the same time. Now, run it through a pitch shifter, and transpose back up an octave. This will restore the loop to its original pitch, but it will remain at half-speed. Obviously, other pitch/speed transpositions produce different results. Two points: First, this is ridiculously easy to do with the LP1, since there are the two Aux Outputs that can be used to shuttle loops out to external units. If you're using the Looperlative with a mixer, you can even route the transposed signal back into the input and record/bounce to a new track. Second, this ain't gonna get you pristine "studio-quality" time stretch, but that's sort of the point, isn't it? In fact, with all the budget pitch shifters out there (many in cheezeball multi-effect units), who knows what sort of interesting artifacting you're liable to find by mixing and matching different devices. At the very least, it's an interesting recipe for layering polyrhythms.... --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 14:47:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 271743BE88; Mon, 11 May 2009 14:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_da7803f7-dae0-4e00-9122-9e0dfc30b935_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: New LiveLoop Improvisation, using insert and "loop Windowing" Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:47:23 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2009 14:47:23.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[64E88200:01C9D247] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:47:24 +0000 (UTC) --_da7803f7-dae0-4e00-9122-9e0dfc30b935_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I called this "Hot Rubber Monkey Fights Cygnus". Why ?? It sounds like that= perhaps=2C the Hot Rubber Monkey (HRM) is the circuit in 90's Dumble guita= r amps and the Cygnus is a Soloway guitar..... The fighting occurs mainly between the loop and the lead guitar=2C i use in= sert set to insert in the beginning=2C that way the "rhythm" changes around= .. i also use "loop Windowing"=2C i think. At least a play around a lot wit= h the "Undo" function of the EDP.... One take as usual=2C only delay added in mix... =20 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D7592023 =20 Please let me know what you think... =20 Regards=2C AnDers www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl --_da7803f7-dae0-4e00-9122-9e0dfc30b935_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I called this "Hot Rubber Monkey Fights Cygnus". Why ?? It sounds like that= perhaps=2C the Hot Rubber Monkey (HRM) is the circuit in 90's Dumble guita= r amps and the Cygnus is a Soloway guitar.....
The fighting occurs mainly between the loop and the lead guitar=2C i use in= sert set to insert in the beginning=2C that way the "rhythm" changes around= .. i also use "loop Windowing"=2C i think. At least a play around a lot wit= h the "Undo" function of the EDP....
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= --_da7803f7-dae0-4e00-9122-9e0dfc30b935_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 14:48:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB8A03BE90; Mon, 11 May 2009 14:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s4hv6gQNoE6MY7eNJz3fy291FtIAYpV5k/3iero0HHY=; b=FbKkFdbABNrcMgY0GO6UWB4Z0zN6JWBGivCmMC6quN9I66PZYxRoVMJEcAYvsB1xn3 2f3fwtdVvRXsfjXwyLnwiE9g1dZYGLwHscQgUs+MPw3PNaCqNwWmfUo4WAWlLOAGGeSM q9YZEWNDIZfF5SEz4wY3/qYohCMzruF7SCM6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T2AKYv05191AAhO0Ty51rKbjA5bNp02qSUzy3fW0xMkvbvi0FA38aQGX4a5P9v6XAx 3gzENubmpvQsaIVv+slo0Kdq2AzRXN4p3BYW0Y/sBWwnL1ZWYWCbdbNBjQAC7vMf6AQ4 mKR7xuTHeFBfdxFa1Dd1mglXtNFe/MJiyCvSw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:48:38 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905110748y6d589ba5v8d8f48346ba0135d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books... (Bruford Autobiography Spoiler Alert) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Oh no not Bill, what's that about? On 5/11/09, murkie wrote: > Not sure what long term impact it will have on my music (it's already having > some immediate impact) but Bill Bruford's recently published autobiography > is a fascinating read. > > > Though it is a bit of a downer watching one of your favourite drummers > slowly lose interest and eventually abandon his instrument. > > m > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 14:53:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB6163BE8D; Mon, 11 May 2009 14:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Du9nH1DoQUqXlqyqJQ/duUwgJR2HD9sry/EYg+cQyoo=; b=bikCeu7tRckJ6OulP7zqLAsrLUEqICgfjpcenji29gfM8w5B62RUeO/Lv7BMG3TDqN uX5V9GhPPOSaIpan9D9PERmwXFFSmy43Qp2tGPNpVtN+OveSJw9XrXfNjAAWekmq2zA1 CP98Atuk9wu0eExm2AGfJ3Ilv+/IE88MgELOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G6FinyKpAu30qUKWiGIcvaU+hPb5Umy911I8ygeqR4/ZtmsJDxRjYPc33Z10Mg0rGG Dp49LcmSFGfqAQbyDlw0ooZK0Tgxwa9LFcZ1YEtMz37sjWXrwLd7wKae/5otfnMCXUia tNxYgh6iEVX2eg5sfyTnTvPlFjoUrpfXzxYCE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <146cdfa70905110039n64c88712h983058bbe2345575@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> <146cdfa70905110039n64c88712h983058bbe2345575@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 07:53:02 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905110753i2fc3b0e8l2fbec099a1287699@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7erG9B.A.POB.OvDCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:53:02 +0000 (UTC) I caught that particular formation in L.A. The bassist is Busta White I believe. Decidedly funkier than Tina, but hey, Tina played great lines throughout all Talking Heads' recordings. Belew was awesome with that lineup as stunt guitarist. Byrne is so under-rated as a rythym player! -m -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 15:02:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1EEA3BE8F; Mon, 11 May 2009 15:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2tXuApfoo08yNGiVmixa/5r/60evj7eqqDblYzk9Bvw=; b=ssO3OSqHYlKZ6467+pXPlhYKFN4wFjSfhh+baUxsvh4WSSy5Y0DyK39QV7LWr7FgM4 VEjV5IAktjbusPszh7FT3NQkC2u0N3gS2KFs1MFV4aVIpoDFes0x96vdYEaneAAPAG5p Ra4Ms/m4W1cSc+bofJC0NxciY/1niEeBKN/Zw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NCNcZFOPN+DhYUKS+BC10dQ25aL2CoRoFeySSuecsrot948ZJB7Z0Z9rRWrDDfYUpN vdw6LmDvr5V7ZaE2wJkWBItUicIAj7kgUvk/bhLUrXjtsWnShgzmbqqmmyVgdTqP1l/5 V/BLX/z5MQ29KMpIz7w7gspUJmWhHyF3+1lME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:02:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Record From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:02:58 +0000 (UTC) http://www.propellerheads.se asking for beta testers for their new DAW -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 15:13:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D921E3BE91; Mon, 11 May 2009 15:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 196862934/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.131.156/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.131.156 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AncCAFvdB0pPToOc/2dsb2JhbAAIkEG8M4N+BYgq X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,328,1238972400"; d="scan'208";a="196862934" Message-ID: <4A084341.4070101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:24:49 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> <146cdfa70905110039n64c88712h983058bbe2345575@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30905110753i2fc3b0e8l2fbec099a1287699@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30905110753i2fc3b0e8l2fbec099a1287699@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Busta Jones Miko Biffle wrote: > I caught that particular formation in L.A. The bassist is Busta White > I believe. Decidedly funkier than Tina, but hey, Tina played great > lines throughout all Talking Heads' recordings. Belew was awesome > with that lineup as stunt guitarist. Byrne is so under-rated as a > rythym player! -m > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 15:28:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 718AE3BE8C; Mon, 11 May 2009 15:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:28:30 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:28:32 +0000 (UTC) > Mech wrote: > It's simple: record a line, then (for example) drop it down one > octave. This will slow the loop to half-speed at the same time. > Now, run it through a pitch shifter, and transpose back up an octave. > This will restore the loop to its original pitch, but it will remain > at half-speed. Obviously, other pitch/speed transpositions produce > different results. That's a very creative solution, I never though about that ;) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! 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= --_04352cbe-7f9b-4a5e-bac7-2f8fe7ed1fe9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 17:13:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39D693BE78; Mon, 11 May 2009 17:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=D73iyr0DtcjHN/lde4a5tRB88WOdkErVGluON/z+ix4=; b=D3YC+iVQ+5yh4fb/DGEF5VTMtfLJ2WcsY+v4RY4ylD9WtSoHWtcn5/vLEX52kVRwWo 9Htndh+ykpM/nfZYDOyrIsHYVy3Bty8CQeNMY7dQjc/yA1+QeqNFF/zUrUdsr5bTKdCX QEmB3kWSmfgxAQCeCanFob8G+rMj0RtAW36lk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=F0KpL5Dk09K2c6j6dZgkmGoMthHUEWgkczA/YeK1M/3vRcZBS5EgJEVeUB9hIjwQUH M72277YORa2LjyytRGeYxBT1IjhkBNfUsSwGoGTJahU3rU0LE44C5oml/nSebvrCGsW2 uRfV4PZCQqev6oZTNSLhSH41vgNWvYpxRGnuw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A084341.4070101@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7334ca1b0905100849p500d2f88gf6a64d34746ef65f@mail.gmail.com> <146cdfa70905110039n64c88712h983058bbe2345575@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30905110753i2fc3b0e8l2fbec099a1287699@mail.gmail.com> <4A084341.4070101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:04:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905111004p65c0771cq500f7bf4e5e0a43a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0GkyOD.A.LIF.kyFCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, my memory is pretty bad. I guess I'm getting (more) senile. I almost said Busta Brown to indicate my memory failure but that would have been racially un-pc=97I guess Busta "White" could have racial implications as well, but hey, the guy can really beat his bass up (and maybe his wife too). Damn. There's no way to stay outta trouble with this one. Love Byrne's stalker-like guitar poses. -m On 5/11/09, andy butler wrote: > Busta Jones > > Miko Biffle wrote: > > > I caught that particular formation in L.A. The bassist is Busta White > > I believe. Decidedly funkier than Tina, but hey, Tina played great > > lines throughout all Talking Heads' recordings. Belew was awesome > > with that lineup as stunt guitarist. Byrne is so under-rated as a > > rythym player! -m --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 18:07:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F2523BE7C; Mon, 11 May 2009 18:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 11 May 2009 18:07:53 UTC Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:59:42 +0000 (UTC) From: loopbozo@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1447658761.4824871242064782655.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30905111004p65c0771cq500f7bf4e5e0a43a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_239859_789983539.1242064782653" X-Originating-IP: [67.190.3.70] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.12_GA_2816.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/5.0.12_GA_2816.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: <_KY82B.A.V3G.5lGCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:07:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_239859_789983539.1242064782653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe it's Busta "Cherry" Jones for full effect.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Miko Biffle" =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:04:55 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain=20 Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar - live video=20 Yeah, my memory is =C2=A0pretty bad. I guess I'm getting (more) senile. I= =20 almost said Busta Brown to indicate my memory failure but that would=20 have been racially un-pc=E2=80=94I guess Busta "White" could have racial=20 implications as well, but hey, the guy can really beat his bass up=20 (and maybe his wife too). Damn. There's no way to stay outta trouble=20 with this one. Love Byrne's stalker-like guitar poses. =C2=A0-m=20 On 5/11/09, andy butler wrote:=20 > Busta Jones=20 >=20 > =C2=A0Miko Biffle wrote:=20 >=20 > > I caught that particular formation in L.A. =C2=A0The bassist is Busta W= hite=20 > > I believe. Decidedly funkier than Tina, but hey, Tina played great=20 > > lines throughout all Talking Heads' recordings. =C2=A0Belew was awesome= =20 > > with that lineup as stunt guitarist. Byrne is so under-rated as a=20 > > rythym player! =C2=A0-m=20 --=20 Miko Biffle=20 Biffoz@Gmail.com=20 MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com=20 "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"=20 ------=_Part_239859_789983539.1242064782653 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I believe= it's Busta "Cherry" Jones for full effect.



----- Original M= essage -----
From: "Miko Biffle" <biffoz@gmail.com>
To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:04:55 AM GMT = -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar= - live video

Yeah, my memory is  pretty bad. I guess I'm getti= ng (more) senile. I
almost said Busta Brown to indicate my memory failur= e but that would
have been racially un-pc=E2=80=94I guess Busta "White" = could have racial
implications as well, but hey, the guy can really beat= his bass up
(and maybe his wife too). Damn. There's no way to stay outt= a trouble
with this one. Love Byrne's stalker-like guitar poses.  -= m

On 5/11/09, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
&= gt; Busta Jones
>
>  Miko Biffle wrote:
>
> &g= t; I caught that particular formation in L.A.  The bassist is Busta Wh= ite
> > I believe. Decidedly funkier than Tina, but hey, Tina play= ed great
> > lines throughout all Talking Heads' recordings.  = ;Belew was awesome
> > with that lineup as stunt guitarist. Byrne = is so under-rated as a
> > rythym player!  -m

--
M= iko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
"Running sca= red from all the usual distractions!"

------=_Part_239859_789983539.1242064782653-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 18:23:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1A413BE77; Mon, 11 May 2009 18:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 11 May 2009 18:23:36 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_98316a69-513c-421c-aaee-02bdf52f2434_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:18:35 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2009 18:18:36.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6802490:01C9D264] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:23:36 +0000 (UTC) --_98316a69-513c-421c-aaee-02bdf52f2434_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 BTW=2C Rick The form I practice is the same "school" as Shunryu Suzuki ( Soto Zen) so I= 've been fortunate to study this book w/ my teacher/abbott at Dharma Rain Z= en Center.=20 The book is wonderful on a surface level and along w/ Alan Watts 'The Way o= f Zen' is what brought me to a Buddhist practice 30 some years ago=3B it is= =2C with further study=2C a hugely deeper book than it's surface simplicity= =2C though -referencing many=2C many sutras throughout the dharma talks -wh= ich is what makes up the book. I also love the story about the back photo: Most teachers had formal photos= taken for books=2C etc. His was taken while moving rocks & brush at Tassaj= ara. =20 =20 J.D. =20 > Date: Mon=2C 11 May 2009 03:21:09 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives >=20 > A friend of mine asked me=2C recently=2C what books have truly and deeply= =20 > influenced my music > in my life and=2C amongst other titles=2C I sang him the praises of=20 > Shinryu Suzuki's book called=2C > "Zen Mind =2C Beginners' Mind". >=20 > Though not as famous a D T Suzuki who was the great popularizer of=20 > Japanese Zen Buddhism in the > west=2C I prefer Shunryu Suzuki=2C the head of the San Francisco Zen=20 > Center who > wrote perhaps the best single book on practicing a musical instrument=2C= =20 > "Zen Mind=2C Beginners' Mind". >=20 > He never actually wrote a book and certainly not on praciticing a=20 > musical instrument.....he was too zen for that...lol=2C > but his students recorded his answers to a public question and answer=20 > seminar where everyone asked him how > he was able to master meditating successfully considering that it is so=20 > difficult to still the human mind when > trying to do such an extremely simple=2C non-intellectual and repetitive= =20 > practice. >=20 > If you take that book and substitute the word 'Zazen' (the Buddhistic=20 > practice of > meditating only on your breath and how we breathe=2C in and out) and put= =20 > musical "practice"=2C it's an incredibly > wise book about how to still the mind so that one can play something=20 > over and over > and over until one's technique improves significantly. >=20 > I'd try to paraphrase his philosophy and his understanding of how to > get around the projecting and over identifying/attached nature of the=20 > human mind=2C particularly > viz a vis the practice of repetitive musical playing but I just=20 > wouldn't come close to > how profound that book is. >=20 > I actually ritualistically purchase a copy of it and give it as a=20 > present to all of my advanced students > when they first develop the desire to really woodshed their instrument=20 > deeply and are having troubles > stilling their minds doing so. >=20 > It was my bible when I finally was able to master double stroke bouncing= =20 > exercises on trapset many years ago > At that time=2C I had a practice pad on a stand with two identical=20 > drumsticks in every single room of the house > (including the kitchen and the bathroom) so that if I ever looked down=2C= =20 > I could just pick the sticks up and continue > practicing. >=20 > I can't more highly recommend it. It has changed my life and the life=20 > of dozens of my really good students over the > last three decades. >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut= orial_QuickAdd1_052009= --_98316a69-513c-421c-aaee-02bdf52f2434_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B
BTW=2C Rick
The form I practice is the same "school" as Shunryu Suzuki ( Soto Zen) so I= 've been fortunate to study this book w/ my teacher/abbott at Dharma Rain Z= en Center.
The book is wonderful on a surface level and along w/ Alan Watts 'The Way o= f Zen' is what brought =3Bme to =3Ba Buddhist practice =3B30 so= me years ago=3B it is=2C with further study=2C a hugely deeper book than it= 's surface simplicity=2C though -referencing many=2C many =3Bsutras thr= oughout the dharma talks -which is what makes up the book.
I also love the story about the back photo: Most teachers had formal photos= taken for books=2C etc. His was taken while moving rocks &=3B brush at = Tassajara.  =3B =3B
 =3B
J.D.
 =3B
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 11 May 2009 03:21:09 -0700
>= =3B From: looppool@cruzio.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
>=3B Subject: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives
= >=3B
>=3B A friend of mine asked me=2C recently=2C what books have = truly and deeply
>=3B influenced my music
>=3B in my life and=2C= amongst other titles=2C I sang him the praises of
>=3B Shinryu Suzuk= i's book called=2C
>=3B "Zen Mind =2C Beginners' Mind".
>=3B
= >=3B Though not as famous a D T Suzuki who was the great popularizer of <= BR>>=3B Japanese Zen Buddhism in the
>=3B west=2C I prefer Shunryu S= uzuki=2C the head of the San Francisco Zen
>=3B Center who
>=3B = wrote perhaps the best single book on practicing a musical instrument=2C >=3B "Zen Mind=2C Beginners' Mind".
>=3B
>=3B He never actua= lly wrote a book and certainly not on praciticing a
>=3B musical inst= rument.....he was too zen for that...lol=2C
>=3B but his students reco= rded his answers to a public question and answer
>=3B seminar where e= veryone asked him how
>=3B he was able to master meditating successful= ly considering that it is so
>=3B difficult to still the human mind w= hen
>=3B trying to do such an extremely simple=2C non-intellectual and= repetitive
>=3B practice.
>=3B
>=3B If you take that book= and substitute the word 'Zazen' (the Buddhistic
>=3B practice of
= >=3B meditating only on your breath and how we breathe=2C in and out) and= put
>=3B musical "practice"=2C it's an incredibly
>=3B wise boo= k about how to still the mind so that one can play something
>=3B ove= r and over
>=3B and over until one's technique improves significantly.=
>=3B
>=3B I'd try to paraphrase his philosophy and his understa= nding of how to
>=3B get around the projecting and over identifying/at= tached nature of the
>=3B human mind=2C particularly
>=3B viz a = vis the practice of repetitive musical playing but I just
>=3B wouldn= 't come close to
>=3B how profound that book is.
>=3B
>=3B = I actually ritualistically purchase a copy of it and give it as a
>= =3B present to all of my advanced students
>=3B when they first develo= p the desire to really woodshed their instrument
>=3B deeply and are = having troubles
>=3B stilling their minds doing so.
>=3B
>= =3B It was my bible when I finally was able to master double stroke bouncin= g
>=3B exercises on trapset many years ago
>=3B At that time=2C = I had a practice pad on a stand with two identical
>=3B drumsticks in= every single room of the house
>=3B (including the kitchen and the ba= throom) so that if I ever looked down=2C
>=3B I could just pick the s= ticks up and continue
>=3B practicing.
>=3B
>=3B I can't mo= re highly recommend it. It has changed my life and the life
>=3B of d= ozens of my really good students over the
>=3B last three decades.
= >=3B

Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail= =AE. See how. = --_98316a69-513c-421c-aaee-02bdf52f2434_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 20:04:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 663403BE77; Mon, 11 May 2009 20:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242072285; bh=zZpvGvuysn7uVh9tR3UzXM7gQtKNGBDTOaHnLuZPTwQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E2LRpiZtJKX/Ac4uyoekFEzMVVvUVB9Q7trZU9gHrsGyodXh+1+vjYdg+oKVqY0daqyNrPd5kVVqPLCcHkxgSEymT8qEPJrz/I1GZVvwdG9i3iTWOz/R4oOcDzbcYQmwl2ep7qKt9K27hsveGkkdOV59FbAM/cTQln2QKq0Z8z8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uTilCBW851mv0f/sBy4TT/x9r7ZggI3BWkJtZSxbOy3/XsN/3dRRcjXO+X6zuni5zoFi/B2DnpjF1dA0hCZq7djfH+zkar7zihPHyRBaWhQf7jku7WsVOc/d6gG+I+iXt/twkayNEn4ExT+8KN3fRFFks76G8zi21uRiKpsFfOM=; Message-ID: <686240.68621.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:04:45 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905110110w2f1e25dfsfe10dd3f563287a2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:04:47 +0000 (UTC) it would be lovely if mobius could also eventually cope with the pitchshift= function its been a while since i tried it as it produces crackle noises Jeff will that ever be possible? cheers Luis >=20 > Yes, having owned a Repeater for a couple of years I can > affirm that > those lovely artefacts are the bi product of time > stretching - not > just speed (or rate) shifting. If you do a lot of > stretching in the > Repeater the file structure is changed and the loop > doesn't sound the > same at normal pitch any more. This tells for some harsh > interpolation > going on. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 21:10:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6F0A3BE73; Mon, 11 May 2009 21:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "labaloops@yahoo.com" , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:10:00 -0500 Subject: RE: Exploring new Loooperlative features Thread-Topic: Exploring new Loooperlative features Thread-Index: AcnSc73DLf4fqR60SquNIGlV4LDZUgAB8DuA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7149C25F7B4BA@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905110110w2f1e25dfsfe10dd3f563287a2@mail.gmail.com> <686240.68621.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <686240.68621.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <2LbuWC.A.j3H.rQJCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:10:03 +0000 (UTC) > it would be lovely if mobius could also eventually cope with > the pitchshift function its been a while since i tried it as > it produces crackle noises The main bug I'm aware of with pitch shifting is that there are some latency compensation errors having to do with the buffer used by the pitch shifting algorithm. There will be a slight delay between when you press the switch and you hear the pitch change. If you change pitch a lot this may cause the loop to gradually go out of alignment with the other tracks. I wasn't aware of any crackle noises, but note that pitch shifting requires much more computer power than simple rate shifting.=20 You may need to increase your audio device buffer size (and with it the latency) to stop the crackles. =20 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 22:11:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F0413BE73; Mon, 11 May 2009 22:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rEnKS0BJF8+a/h/3lGbAg2AwCl0Gw7H06QufUOII1NM=; b=QWDhItV4Jasn9A8Vp+XXnbgUrnIxe212Fkx7fa/jhh7tymM5fzNFkxMoyxWrk9wp1Z yV0c4xI7srSEARCNPbdAsweSU7rXD7jUbF1LR/HL5+4CHU1ZxKO9ghGaCzyIdrfOT6Ye b2LZjVSkIV5o7aD+bBhJLIXNpTW+9hQGVR51M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OY61VW38nMtyrvY10CdiNKTjBlj5jq4R3isr7yJsMn+nPp3fckdT/XSRIiHnGx4Ukm v0mk415gYEJnFSm4edaqQJngXU6jN1yiyX/EcdEc6dxygc5tX94oDyFCin1XXMxX0KSm AhxJuHeMQh5sVQDBhGIbDR3knR13imG37OJB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:11:30 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905111511g4f49bf39tec2325c96af65dcb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Online Looping School & More! From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-cV5TC.A.pxG.TKKCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Joey said: > I currently perform 250+ shows per year using my Loop Pedal. It's time I provide you with my Looping Information. Great. Another geek who bought a Boss loop pedal and now starts a new community and explains how to do looping to those old farts who never understood their MAX/MSP thingies in the first place. I'm looking forward to The Looping School covering loop windowing in conjunction with granular sus use...;) Nice playing on that vid, tho'. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 22:28:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58E6E3BE72; Mon, 11 May 2009 22:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=P/WkbN75PtmjBWGiCxhpDETnD7j0x+QZgjAD625+pxA=; b=LDRIFI1DENMI2pvOHvxWrcjzrSim8cP+08D6Q8qKjri3e93U9wol4dxluZtQtzPHqP m2A3qyGmONUFXPE/gjIhzX4Arkf0riVAKK6iYcgblMxExirlUpgmkUl0gOWgEnxi9s1v s7ft+FvdkDHu2huF6xySYzHg6Hy4b8Y2jZVxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=tTf65vSsOtd5kaCgMMX1VlTBHV1pt7+eBAFqMZ385Cwco2B1XTsUvUmgHo7QxomEII 5dJl1cEq5nFoHAqtmBEoL+JCdZkq3oo2GkE7PpvBspnj54IVfhU6oi2M+Xy76L75s2PJ Qx9ShCnE+Uv7Bk+n8l6ifuRg8Q2iOZAYovU5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: Nick Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:28:02 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2af529874927e28b Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Record To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd18264f443520469aa7ea0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:28:23 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd18264f443520469aa7ea0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm really hoping to get into this program. As a steadfast reason user, I haven't seen a lot of things this seems to offer other than recording capabilities. I'm eager to see how it stacks up to live's recording abilities. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > http://www.propellerheads.se > > asking for beta testers for their new DAW > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > --000e0cd18264f443520469aa7ea0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm really hoping to get into this program. As a steadfast reason user,= I haven't seen a lot of things this seems to offer other than recordin= g capabilities. I'm eager to see how it stacks up to live's recordi= ng abilities.

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Raul Bonell= <raul.bonell= @gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.prope= llerheads.se

asking for beta testers for their new DAW

--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com


--000e0cd18264f443520469aa7ea0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 22:48:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B7203BE77; Mon, 11 May 2009 22:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yWN4XzbO53t5NPZ8FBimDbOStqSlg8EXiHFQxfX9yDw=; b=RD7/gruiZmVA095NGmudHOasNj5XFi4THYprR3tj7XJxZAJfef+V9AXh9Oth3bEjwG h7DxgZOnHdX2rJho0NiH/1Ib46vgDuYpy1hYx53rnPp4+N0wdk609vjM5lM1WXPsWNGm UL6ymmmw0XsBgY3Xr5LkgbdZ6NZHiE6iuRVj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xdG6eN0zimS3nbCa1wdC5PmsUuAP3mMYrwmK0SPoQCrP8T+PFxpb7WFv+7f/7izBxO VbGzuh2wYjdMjO4uT3xaS2irb8WEkx6TEHzZA/qLBeIj5iPihdlLHYZ7qhV5ijMEVebz BDyp2uZLgo4Fgu7rzrbJeGTRyrebtSRz0NwCg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:48:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Record From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0JEowB.A.SWD.AtKCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Seems to me like it's geared less to loop focused DAWs and more an entry level DAW for more traditional instrumentalists/bands. Kind of like a Garageband for actual garage bands. Might be good. The movie their marketing people made didn't do much for me. I can't imagine an app being more intuitive than just using Ableton Live, though I've never been a Reason user. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Nick wrote: > I'm really hoping to get into this program. As a steadfast reason user, I > haven't seen a lot of things this seems to offer other than recording > capabilities. I'm eager to see how it stacks up to live's recording > abilities. > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> >> http://www.propellerheads.se >> >> asking for beta testers for their new DAW >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 22:52:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BE803BE81; Mon, 11 May 2009 22:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090511174013.94k4nspwcg0ss40c@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:40:13 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Record References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <8EbsoC.A.NyD.0wKCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Here are some more videos 'splaining Record: http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2009/05/propellerheads-launches-their-latest= .html I'm all over it for the Record/Reason integration.. Record actually =20 has Reason inside of it, and if you have Reason installed on your =20 computer, Record recognizes that and turns on all the Reason =20 features.. so, for us Reason users, that means Reason finally has =20 audio tracks.. :) -cpr Quoting Mark Sottilaro : > Seems to me like it's geared less to loop focused DAWs and more an > entry level DAW for more traditional instrumentalists/bands. Kind of > like a Garageband for actual garage bands. Might be good. The movie > their marketing people made didn't do much for me. I can't imagine an > app being more intuitive than just using Ableton Live, though I've > never been a Reason user. > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Nick wrote: >> I'm really hoping to get into this program. As a steadfast reason user, I >> haven't seen a lot of things this seems to offer other than recording >> capabilities. I'm eager to see how it stacks up to live's recording >> abilities. >> >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Raul Bonell wrot= e: >>> >>> http://www.propellerheads.se >>> >>> asking for beta testers for their new DAW >>> >>> -- >>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 23:14:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3631E3BE7E; Mon, 11 May 2009 23:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 11 May 2009 23:14:03 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242083242; bh=MXh8jIJ5GDWozzbBDCfVrreANJUS7n09kNth886WSVA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QeNaIJZpi1aBR2OB6rGaEX9gCOJMzE/C3jAlciv/z+yWf0hkElsTMHWzYqnhocEGcii8s94wYn2cn5gDtONMQwMq0zc3karS0LW1YPdnK+hi2xAB27zanMm38tA93f5BuojP/HiWTZSfTFcbMPhW85o+wZzLI67HDjOoJlCzYvc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w2cZWbK4fk7gVu5EWTtjH8bb14qAnMMAIeDJZ7tORdY5lbRvbX2bvlaejg8VvKFfX7vVQ7s91CnmrjaGu875a5jDvd3fa+KnZWHgMkHjT3ftjYtyPZ0YAFXC0VaiCOijMoYnbdK9ff2B5ctnWZW1e/JMohrH9rr4754t5fCf6z8=; Message-ID: <672786.79604.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TNJx3W0VM1lk916km7yCoto41_26DcN_EjQnVKv4dfUPyyDQVdvNUP9ZlOOnDpWWP_r9jKFoVBb9WoXXEQ31k2icEff7ZMDOWW9TXu1eJHprfdk0lXelQOWFSqQieAvETlkpMt1oHotiHW6IrTkWVL_.iE1qY3Qok5cKf4Gq8bXMzgLFNETu5S_Eum54Ie1jYns8q4tehZ0U9LLl6jJlSoK3k7.ZrlSMwqpWXX83KfqJx3GJ82CErKvIjNVDbyrnNKXrj7YO6RIXDpVCmaEypDE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: murkie Reply-To: sinister_footwear@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: proper way to hold you guitar -> book thread To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30905111004p65c0771cq500f7bf4e5e0a43a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:14:04 +0000 (UTC) for those of you who are Talking Heads fans there's a really nice book on the history of the band that was published in the mid-80s. it was written by some guy named Gans. think he might be a looper. 8^{)} m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 23:14:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F7973BE79; Mon, 11 May 2009 23:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242083674; bh=ZMCQ3fRh9oVwMVZ3v2Tj6V8+6N6ZgnHuiqGouerCrdI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5g5u7HK8hJpZyI5qX3iBSstVrAh1AbcQ45E4qRBq7Eh4Veh5O8P+biRwM6KtQw7UQNNx+5/ArFaadR20/QWxyLGzA5J0STATxvAjJJCbkKTj2DfsCisIkGt+t8q7EZ5NCCFBIHek4fCj5juyFnEevy29xzTAA6XGWArO4XufhjA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1O7oopY9pwI+Y3Qj93tYDrDyDI77nikbzvcrN4I+mOAHuhCILBJthyDV23RkrbK4RnuDvuYcudN+E6iRp3b0YyvdSnKQQ8POGW2nXYaVJcrlkCfW+12hdCJae3MAN8NVvB3q5snh9ocs13qRHBgDHIJsC68iPu2j0LDSbhJfKHs=; Message-ID: <530005.53390.qm@web54007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kVnaIEoVM1kQVCDKbfDt30yAB5neS3h6feGwv1Uwi119mMHAp5flx8.5M.t5NqrZyhRdnxTFX6bXcB.f5uwvS8QvawKjIW9mbkU.Y1Rm1YUtsqLtO6vpKhmFF1L3oMT1_bNRNcI9637dDt6v23nB1qSHlj5L9qvJOv._tpWu5af7prmiGCntWPYg7LQZ6BCWDMtaGe4flIGFIgWF_ZOkU7kozv1wcmxn8QJX.U2G_OGGYKE.oj60KL_6J73ZxTIDnFLdk2.99PkuV3m85K2MrmNITOqIA6v4ZPJ7Id3VfjLqSA00r3tJmva.PQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:14:34 -0700 (PDT) From: murkie Reply-To: sinister_footwear@yahoo.com Subject: new looperific tuneage on the facebook page To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <1TR3J.A.KzF.bFLCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:14:35 +0000 (UTC) just posted some new loopy stuff on the fb page: http://tinyurl.com/MarkChristensen check it out. m www.TwistedAppleRecords.com Stone Document's Anamnesis now available from iTunes!http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=301414103&s=143441 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 11 23:18:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99A513BE82; Mon, 11 May 2009 23:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242083480; bh=pkznf87IZWWQKxiyiyPEfnvAb1TUb4JpiMhCVk3sr44=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5i4ygK6syGeEpmzQ+78SRJ8yPdmpy+WnJ/VS9WWFGLj+sQ8WaoEB+epj8FIzQbXgQKTpwzOriznSILGhlWtxroKOF5aXknMxhii6kFAX0KNlaT+g8ws6HEt2QR0ejNJT/qLg3SyeBMitW4he+UedK16grHyfjW44siSc31mKp8c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B/YbgZtF9s3RCXdNVGZhwCi3h5C5Ygc1qB+fUXFhcSmxPT6fW9RB1F29ueWAWmi1FMSPYHLxMmOXH70mg4TFf7uriV4XE0qEho+62CoZ53jGRVI4CM6E0Ay7A4/t3iQ7Eg0Z3oXmn8Vz2KIqKU8vsg7oNkGwLzMCtarV4lUr87g=; Message-ID: <986020.55797.qm@web54010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0guFTB8VM1koY0caarEmnX00Y9mNJb08ko2.vpj1b3CGbaWOHhrCcpbvRDoMSHOifquKg1xptrDhG0lKLPjo63Hc1BONQAtvF.ILfp9stZXRKRE9FL_Q7ogTYlUJlYIMsyPKy11EHRi2taoUFRv0Wn8pjpRD8MeULIh.AeuancPhKsm39nKRcLSy2.Q4VHE6NJgJDeiZttsnOudZIzKfMgtoVfhszQYYMcxxnvfbQUh9OMKU3UdN X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:11:19 -0700 (PDT) From: murkie Reply-To: sinister_footwear@yahoo.com Subject: OT: Re: Great Books... (Bruford Autobiography Spoiler Alert) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905110748y6d589ba5v8d8f48346ba0135d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:18:01 +0000 (UTC) > Oh no not Bill, what's that about? he's made a lot of noise about retiring from public performance so i guess i'm not giving too much away. maybe it's just for book publicity. it's hard to tell from the book which he has more contempt for, Fripp, the drums or his fans. m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 00:48:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C48513BE78; Tue, 12 May 2009 00:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242089326; bh=Cq/ydH5o6P1O7XdfjjWl076Sekg4wY1faHZ0tqzcZvQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BOI712opHJ2JwqD4+FaI3zZIkFR/k92is2x4zgcdgh3LiEv3mIuGlybO/BjcB8NX7xsIlLx0TxDqyHSwsxyxFogAnvZ7mw3/LXyfJZW8WBoqt5sF5Sg0ehBvGuu4d2AxvZD7yCCfCFA/KQpxOjGtOdGLptW3unJ5L1IKu7ciiiY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nZ+ivnrfb+dcft8dfQp0Vhd0TATpsSq/smiB/UTIVfHmUu2IkANsGhhgnsh0oG4tPmM4idRaBpMvxLlCJfoPA/GlgMJp//JieNzMzn8Kby7/kdW2P5BF4yiHJQcUzWIqVJ1pMGV9QjwfZVr22/pVPXbUer0tObTCbI202Xo7Z8A=; Message-ID: <471453.24360.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:48:45 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: AW: Online Looping School & More! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905111511g4f49bf39tec2325c96af65dcb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <96ZffC.A.XaF.vdMCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:48:47 +0000 (UTC) is called corporate looping believe me its here! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Rainer Straschill schrieb am Mo, 11.5.2009: > Von: Rainer Straschill > Betreff: Online Looping School & More! > An: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 11. Mai 2009, 15:11 > Joey said: >=20 > > I currently perform 250+ shows per year using my Loop > Pedal. It's time I provide you with my Looping > Information. >=20 > Great. Another geek who bought a Boss loop pedal and now > starts a new > community and explains how to do looping to those old farts > who never > understood their MAX/MSP thingies in the first place. > I'm looking forward to The Looping School covering loop > windowing in > conjunction with granular sus use...;) >=20 > Nice playing on that vid, tho'. >=20 > Rainer=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 01:25:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 514693BE80; Tue, 12 May 2009 01:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242091535; bh=lm56AitipMIyZa4VvCsgYlcvs8UQfdgUZRgOPIhb+q4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=o7Iobzy2D5bntWqYMTbeea++6lKBHdZvDpCf4cK1p9Io3s+YQ+oIWbg2B0DsbKl+5qHJL2B8QpYlnhzadI53i+hI02pybS2aGleUtwT8Y0jilQuWiXPuqNtF2gB13Cbtwnk5VhLxv4x9YhS3hH1AMlXl74vyzpHpk98NjlB00I0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S243wEc/iuLMtg2ziJ094qnzNwEpIUKranfslzYBXAigHPUHZHUOi45par33yUWhkPT2AuBqF2LO8HK4LYEGp1xsaWNDHB3RUaxJBHpK1VYWQtvoOiXaO4d4p8+lZFNvxi+JFKQG8WWhHxlUxvDtCpM+1H00wmaKNEi8wjLFPhk=; Message-ID: <844985.42248.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 01:25:35 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: the amazing Adrian Parker fly To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <99096E48C26D43EEBF30B2DF90134857@NORBY11> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 01:25:37 +0000 (UTC) so much talk about Adrian i had to check out his new guitar wow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoTe-B0ZTtJ0 anybody here owns one? =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 01:47:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05E2A3BE77; Tue, 12 May 2009 01:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:47:46 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 01:47:49 +0000 (UTC) At 5:28 PM +0200 5/11/09, Sjaak wrote: > > Mech wrote: >> It's simple: record a line, then (for example) drop it down one >> octave. This will slow the loop to half-speed at the same time. >> Now, run it through a pitch shifter, and transpose back up an octave. >> This will restore the loop to its original pitch, but it will remain >> at half-speed. Obviously, other pitch/speed transpositions produce >> different results. > >That's a very creative solution, I never though about that ;) Thanks, Sjaak. Wish I could take full credit for it, but I first heard it in a conversation with 'Knights...' over on the Looperlative board. I'd been working with using a pitch shifter on the Aux Outs for a while. When he brought up the idea of using that in conjunction with the LP1's (then new) transposition function to achieve time stretch/compress, I had a genuine "palm meets forehead" moment. Seems stupid simple, but it's just one of those things you don't realize until it smacks you in the face. %) --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 02:01:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 715F33BE7C; Tue, 12 May 2009 02:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Joey Edwin" To: Subject: RE: Online Looping School & More! Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:01:01 -0500 Organization: Joey Edwin Message-ID: <02D9A30C71B44A30BB3D57C0FA78E12F@office> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Thread-Index: AcnShXHjA7nRlREbThuZ2MUKc+JzsQAHjNMg In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905111511g4f49bf39tec2325c96af65dcb@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 02:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rainer, I'm not sure how I should respond to your email exactly but I've been looping for over 10+ years. I want to share secrets on how to make a = living with the loop pedal since I've toured the world with mine. Yes, I am = trying to teach the old farts that got stuck along the way but hopefully will attract some developed talent to help further the community too. The = Boss Loop Station is the only pedal that worked for me, but I'm certainly not knockin' others! If you can build a loop pedal great, if you can program a loop pedal I'm = all ears, if you've toured the world playing loops that's awesome.... but = please share your experience instead of criticizing my knowledge in trying to = help others.... Thanks:) Best Regards, Joey Edwin=20 219.613.7148 www.joeyedwin.com -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill [mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:12 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Online Looping School & More! Joey said: > I currently perform 250+ shows per year using my Loop Pedal. It's = time I provide you with my Looping Information. Great. Another geek who bought a Boss loop pedal and now starts a new community and explains how to do looping to those old farts who never understood their MAX/MSP thingies in the first place. I'm looking forward to The Looping School covering loop windowing in conjunction with granular sus use...;) Nice playing on that vid, tho'. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 02:08:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E785A3BE73; Tue, 12 May 2009 02:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242094088; bh=ik/OVjk/vLYquuhUBEg4BNMg51Ns62C11CmLkxXhGiA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wsl+Ypm7ILLtgNMK7ssC5B5z77f0iUr6g90q3qH5S3Abcu2o1Zgdq6IKsl9otkB76haOhQDwtR6TsSmR8wmg7W8EsRpU4fOCaubmfHH45LSMg81btJE0SUfdqFFr1Vr4mZaA0CbdbrkB26Ycxonqq70br9OWmQ3V1gP/dy5cVKQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LSwnyPVogpf4WC/N5HkUpLT4JOBm7qUc9Ev+DLslghHSpsAxLviuzAEBT9d+UJQRTDBgPYNZ7erPB6yntuIT3ySgsZ+qy3Yrh4y3n0fx/LIJjg/VOSKasU4O1D8/mMnouBeImb0OngxY3Caa+Qo458khV4hCFhlNG4PAKJY5v/g=; Message-ID: <747759.67154.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 02:08:08 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live Looping Remix - Ghost Town To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640905100822o3884df31j174b2d5f54a31aa2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 02:08:09 +0000 (UTC) awesome Warren! so nice to hear loopy groovy stuff for a change! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Warren Sirota schrieb am So, 10.5.2009: > Von: Warren Sirota > Betreff: Re: Live Looping Remix - Ghost Town > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009, 8:22 > many thanks, Loren. I love your sig. >=20 > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Loren Claypool > wrote: >=20 > > > > On May 9, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > > > > Another in a line of live loops with synced drums. in > this case, I actually > > replaced the drum track after the fact with something > a bit more kicky. And > > laid in a bass part after the fact that is now part of > the live performance > > of the piece. The cycle of > improvise-extract-compose-perform (still with a > > lot of improvisation, but with a lot more structure) > is now complete > > (-able). I am loving the new workflow. > > > > warrensirota.com/solostuff/ghosttown.mp3 > > > > > > Warren, I am enjoying both the workflow and the > result. I dig the "Warm and > > Cool" vibe of the piece. > > All the best, > > > > Loren Claypool > > genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music > > www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 03:45:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94A8D3BE72; Tue, 12 May 2009 03:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242099911; bh=LPmJ6B48LBifYQ7rIMYfBVmxS3hY0klnOrrzafSqSq0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ftF8UNYue49zqFSBABsC03LPc7M+Vhd3CVX6u+r2PM2WgpsdhMa+WqoK0fA7MmtMlry6VOWzZDy7su75RvoSFrr1AZ9JmvxkW23PBI5nd/GxoPXTChSejomVYlx1em9d3rM0vrxgOPjJ08asCwevBYP7VeTw15QZB4rqcBfwzmQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YzJGoCNV7wxklu+JDantLfHQxF+lnhnCLYoqRL4ZS09vbgabJC0oZ8xn89tCoQS79FUsXVwoA2YfRMuLXZSO08uvwGvI6JfjfNjvz9o18+DlqRXq91cpxt14zTKEIOa3uvsa3X5TsLSkI0nEPq3r1EKIK3vNHR/0dQRHcnQs2UQ=; Message-ID: <505550.68802.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 03:45:11 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Online Looping School & More! To: joey@joeyedwin.com Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <0C7AC2CC4FFE43E7BE30CC838274820F@office> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 03:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Hey Joey didnt mean it in a negative way sorry if it came across that way everybody has to make a living,250 shows a year? dont tell me you arent doi= ng corporate gigs! ive done them myself good money though i dont particular= y like them;-) cheers man Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Joey Edwin schrieb am Mo, 11.5.2009: > Von: Joey Edwin > Betreff: RE: Online Looping School & More! > An: labaloops@yahoo.com > Datum: Montag, 11. Mai 2009, 19:11 > Stay positive fellow loopers.....please!=20 > =20 > Best Regards, > Joey Edwin=20 > 219.613.7148 > www.joeyedwin.com >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:49 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: AW: Online Looping School & More! >=20 >=20 > is called corporate looping > believe me its here! >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 > --- Rainer Straschill > schrieb am Mo, 11.5.2009: >=20 > > Von: Rainer Straschill > > > Betreff: Online Looping School & More! > > An: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Datum: Montag, 11. Mai 2009, 15:11 > > Joey said: > >=20 > > > I currently perform 250+ shows per year using my > Loop > > Pedal. It's time I provide you with my Looping > > Information. > >=20 > > Great. Another geek who bought a Boss loop pedal and > now > > starts a new > > community and explains how to do looping to those old > farts > > who never > > understood their MAX/MSP thingies in the first place. > > I'm looking forward to The Looping School covering > loop > > windowing in > > conjunction with granular sus use...;) > >=20 > > Nice playing on that vid, tho'. > >=20 > > Rainer=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 03:54:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A3B83BE73; Tue, 12 May 2009 03:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xTJAyy3g4GPYZx5jNdZYZ2R2l/QyRzlCMDYG+GnGE7M=; b=eujp5FtWj11OKAdidvJf90crmk01qwjViW6q5SQb7PQkeD3lM56WFsRvCnRFWTILzb 9sE2ObvN4qnHBifWvLMmZ/e/rPiTzLFoh3VQgv88cJ4cbh5eXQR+wU24dyRYeyrS3WyY XV2wdr5zatIyEKsVKj7YD5GMyhJ1BXLxABCLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Qj1+XE4wTmiDGeyMYm6tIpbIKHAw3cI06TqWNJwbaf387KdzvwZq4jJERyQ5cLau9u 0gOHyXaO/ys/OAyBKLneIjzjFDnPvPBxxXkvujQxxxqgdvOqWJpMGQaDjukc0bCQpuk/ S/FCYbamKGc7tclGs7+gprZDoa2C/TAa9/evA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <844985.42248.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <99096E48C26D43EEBF30B2DF90134857@NORBY11> <844985.42248.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:54:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the amazing Adrian Parker fly From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 03:54:36 +0000 (UTC) I bought a car instead. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:25 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > so much talk about Adrian i had to check out his new guitar wow > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTe-B0ZTtJ0 > > anybody here owns one? > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 04:07:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E6813BE73; Tue, 12 May 2009 04:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=eLCDNMgkF9iHwGty35owAVsLomtNyGZiH1haAzfml2Q=; b=Vn7hJG09mjXXhyALrqeM0F1maUeq7eXUj2cpUirZ/IUu4cqv3bWNXvEJIi3KoiLA36 a/BF1T0EAq/11rARZduugI9rv6viPFwYSw/p8RqsRz7RkM0ZBTj5LlmjeUdgxaqfhOZq /Bv19qqyVKY7GEXAHW9D637qJ4ECjU8q/F4O4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=illQTbr1E2XBfIo1s2uBZFlPZ5Ywj8/K/UFcpsR9IaDhADdsSbY8dWqW+vvrxgyFUQ D/LyBa9fzbxf88pwAX3bNNcaEjEOhTqeTg9c1yAC0cARqSsqoW2vverlAHpJFt/f07P3 PYstT3NESb4WqQVka5VN+xMx6F6M1GBWGvYtE= From: "Tony K" To: References: <99096E48C26D43EEBF30B2DF90134857@NORBY11> <844985.42248.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <844985.42248.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: the amazing Adrian Parker fly Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:07:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c9d2b7$26f21fe0$74d65fa0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnSoJJtk0pTxezcS1e/cocNuCpJPwAFmylA Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:07:23 +0000 (UTC) I'd love to own one, but they are what.. $9000? A bit much for this boy. Tony -----Original Message----- From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: the amazing Adrian Parker fly so much talk about Adrian i had to check out his new guitar wow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTe-B0ZTtJ0 anybody here owns one? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 04:07:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0147A3BE82; Tue, 12 May 2009 04:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 12 May 2009 04:07:44 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RXK2lZWDZhOiQKTzt4k4s8EAA+Lc1sFtSUZNFFE9BoS832FktV5qcNLh6U6A+6SN; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905110522o5ce130b1s2bbfaaf34b654b4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> <9e0440a60905110522o5ce130b1s2bbfaaf34b654b4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:35:58 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Line 6 "JM4" ... ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79528c28e3a66cb7d33ebafb8e3cfeed7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.99.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:07:44 +0000 (UTC) http://line6.com/jm4looper/index.html GMAFB!!! -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 04:36:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57ED93BE7E; Tue, 12 May 2009 04:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=UZ7EPPGTw6y71T6ZellErrV6FXHOempTLxve7cw+WIc=; b=L5AYrpgOKyDHwBD08k+NJ1xzvekceSWvga8wjixvQIaFl6DdSrUIsgOLGn0rMH0I/S ZSki0BSficxiSHwkQLojXFt+pUPenJKtS4DH70PNhg6iuzfmllGQ1eMO70Up2hHEKrn+ EYf1M/5zR6H2y5eAjgKL2ZiPqp/c1D535q5q0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=vCFH4DxNXKVZo4J9euogwNIe+w+5fIJifPxHXUUJq9zVymj9YG1B8rY1FR/NzHUwFW txd1Fc6E6VsS2/gZruGKWuStCPaneu9uAXSK132tjZdHlTIEs3er8tzUxoLDK48Vxr0V y+DUzDQBdPDOz0Ef/k+g32pOxsMRk3+RUDApk= From: "Tony K" To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> <9e0440a60905110522o5ce130b1s2bbfaaf34b654b4f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Line 6 "JM4" ... ? Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:36:22 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c9d2bb$341a83c0$9c4f8b40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnStzqNTZc/UmYcR9K/ez7slhWnYwAA+mUw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Uh oh... I feel a case of G.A.S. coming on. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:36 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Line 6 "JM4" ... ? http://line6.com/jm4looper/index.html GMAFB!!! -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 05:14:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EF343BE7C; Tue, 12 May 2009 05:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 12 May 2009 05:14:12 UTC Message-id: <9B4D2128-D768-4533-A057-C97E321DE39F@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Line 6 "JM4" ... ? Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:14:07 -0500 References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> <9e0440a60905110522o5ce130b1s2bbfaaf34b654b4f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <0SAe9D.A.So.kWQCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 05:14:12 +0000 (UTC) On May 11, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > http://line6.com/jm4looper/index.html > > GMAFB!! Pourquoi? It's useful for some people, right? Or no? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 06:44:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4F353BE72; Tue, 12 May 2009 06:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=to1v13Yydk7WyUosycFx8dLFMfw0N0k34NS9Wu+vyqULCQAPpZOV2K0fXkDMAts3uP8b8kem/6Lswoer0IcGaborwTg8vmHzNSoVCQq9T/lUPFUuWcTJjMHowC9Ngm7h; Message-ID: <20090512014404.slnbef45wk44g4cw@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 01:44:04 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Online Looping School & More! References: <02D9A30C71B44A30BB3D57C0FA78E12F@office> In-Reply-To: <02D9A30C71B44A30BB3D57C0FA78E12F@office> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 06:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Joey Edwin : > > Hi Rainer, > > I'm not sure how I should respond to your email exactly but I've been > looping for over 10+ years. I want to share secrets on how to make a living > with the loop pedal since I've toured the world with mine. Yes, I am trying > to teach the old farts that got stuck along the way but hopefully will > attract some developed talent to help further the community too. > What I really want are some humility lessons. > > If you can build a loop pedal great, if you can program a loop pedal I'm all > ears, if you've toured the world playing loops that's awesome.... but please > share your experience... > Hey -- people happily contribute knowledge and suggestions to the list all the time. What is it that you came here to learn? Ask and you shall receive. > > ...instead of criticizing my knowledge in trying to help > others.... Thanks:) > Oh ok, Joey. Thank you for your offer to help. I need all the help I can get. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 08:03:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58EDD3BE73; Tue, 12 May 2009 08:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=0qxKN/naI2oTWCv6vG5CIfcwar6CziR2Q6AScuyP+YsezqGvMUss25sXOMdTUMB6ftMGBuBoPbam7cE62x9E2UHGXFv2zbNWcEgudppzGKzu2V5NkHQ4fuxvaX7PcKXLGTSn9qhhBAQvVGtpllP5BW+K6bjYLethfb8rUEgRxRQ= ; X-YMail-OSG: iFPc2_QVM1kKUH6phs3r08OP7qCTRLBBXWzWp9dLC.YHM8Na.GNaP52B4B4srJQD9G3a997He3YRHO4hcHoM.R_J3z_X9Z5xscfkYFuGKTb_S041kwVeQz2NpRs3p0QQ1NQXb_0N9OKq3mv7nfMK6HGg3TkxmTn6Px1iBR1L1sSSJAUZrQU_ktvB.o7GEh1aQewXb6miQ.9Pg.11bN2oacX1SWK5_lfG8nkmA5R.AxGqEip7t7GVcnK3LBHRCajjAPW.vwqn0midx6MOrbdEIjIF2G7n0sU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9B4D2128-D768-4533-A057-C97E321DE39F@verizon.net> References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> <9e0440a60905110522o5ce130b1s2bbfaaf34b654b4f@mail.gmail.com> <9B4D2128-D768-4533-A057-C97E321DE39F@verizon.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--332260347 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Line 6 "JM4" ... ? Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:03:48 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <448BZC.A.7LE.p1SCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:03:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--332260347 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed No loop once button make it virtually useless for me Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 12 May 2009, at 05:14, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On May 11, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> http://line6.com/jm4looper/index.html >> >> GMAFB!! > > Pourquoi? It's useful for some people, right? Or no? > > Jeff > --Apple-Mail-1--332260347 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII No loop once button make it virtually useless for me

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On 12 May 2009, = at 05:14, Jeff Shirkey wrote:


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GMAFB!!

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= --Apple-Mail-1--332260347-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 08:07:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63CF13BE73; Tue, 12 May 2009 08:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jDauSphuyY0ijgsg5qxWlFP6OA1Fheu8qaQE89/eaAE=; b=LKVk2mylceg7oUiCiEYX2co9zzyyrkXu3xQH9/xZ3vxdPVoBwh+F/Kr2ljb2S57m/L cMfdrq4/OfFm0X7/toj22fSwJ74JVyO8LQx1KJ0QNq8jhNXfjhITjKqzfTJ5twmZbpaC jNu/ruKvNBn3S79TlEoLYKGM4QFD2zHUX+W4g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sHCDhuECWVYhZ/n/gdaZBrWEIRShzqnDF98cU1zqYZobA7+i/ljE/1jBJ9TgWng1gR 3FeKYgRL/9keWqKimcGfLsYagefz+LHeusKRoIv7w9QPsUnA64slyLSzoVXep4UJHvbM 9wJowLPsUhNf+DowosQoIdkKQav8TjDOsaZi0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090511174013.94k4nspwcg0ss40c@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <20090511174013.94k4nspwcg0ss40c@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:07:51 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905120107h55d29e7fg16790d09a09a3c4c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Record From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:07:52 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:40 AM, wrote: > Here are some more videos 'splaining Record: > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2009/05/propellerheads-launches-their-latest.html Thanks you, that were a bunch of good videos. Now I finally was able to form an opinion on REcord ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 10:13:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 202313BE73; Tue, 12 May 2009 10:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <63fba0c3a8705f3ad3b6471b877df308.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20090512040724.A6BD73BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090512040724.A6BD73BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 03:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Mech" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:13:17 +0000 (UTC) >> > Mech wrote: >>> It's simple: record a line, then (for example) drop it down one >>> octave. This will slow the loop to half-speed at the same time. >>> Now, run it through a pitch shifter, and transpose back up an octave. >>> This will restore the loop to its original pitch, but it will remain >>> at half-speed. Obviously, other pitch/speed transpositions produce >>> different results. On my last CD of abstract electronica (which came out at a very tough time for me emotionally, so I never put an ounce of energy into promoting it), 'Purple Hand', I did a piece where I used one single guitar note (a mildly distorted note from a Telecaster) to create an entire piece of music (except for the drum track). On that track, there is a screaming sound that occurs that I created by taking the note and pitching it up an octave and doubling it's length in my audio editor (Sony Sound Forge) 7 times in a row and then taking the subsequent sample and pitching it down an octave and halving it's length 5 times in a row, so that the resultant sample was two octaves higher than the original sample with the same length. Each time I processed it (12 times in toto) the processing added artifacts to the original sound. By the time I finished, the original sound was unreconginzeable as a guitar sound and yet it had the same fundamental pitch information. I love this: processing pitch over and over so that it adds weird artifacts. I use two BOSS pitch shifters now.........pitching a sound up two octaves and then pitching that sound down two octaves so that it is the same pitch and duration as the original sound with tons of artifacts added on. The new Looperlative with additional pitch shifting abilities just adds a ton of new goodies to add to the looping stew. Then one can sit back and, as I've done on my new Ground Control midi pedals, program a bank with the Indian Rag, Bhairav into it (1 octave down, b2, maj3, 4, 5 b6, maj7, 8va) so that I can play melodies taken from an initial ambient track that is , nonetheless, possessing a single fundamental sine wave. The trick is, like the great Hammond B3 players, coordinating an ostinato bass line with the feet whilst soloing over the top of it all. Ahhhhhhh, even more practise to come. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 10:22:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8ED83BE77; Tue, 12 May 2009 10:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=B+DvwF0D9WK9ZeVIUYcKVpxLcAmqGYvhbCZcJ4V1rcxp+qZNxxAHxSJZhORH7SSi/lmL9t2VjhgZC+L7z+RcQ8iJhFPEIIRlpnB0QIpgafo2eAWXBLXDoOsKxOfV90biSjCgZAffN26RXV3cgB3bJYZxtTa2TPEZXmN8hqhelGs= ; X-YMail-OSG: pTYitbIVM1mSAeC948yihhKqrcz0C5eYQ5xKViC4f9iGZ7Tz_czQHIExmr26ZdG5QvdfxJUj0vL01YGpU9DT67ttIwNOItB9KKwGM5DTarOavUqgv1y7_mMqLpAM2HPpyc8yFQy7znO2RNjPvF3Iv68Qe.Xj6.Blm472VQ1niBkHc2zYwkWGb7rASEHdwAHEosWTRGT.B.bjlYaWCfmw8Q6lohchmMuZXhNDmuhDk53WvVcLp_jnkcscOOilhnbg8rnhAMAj21qa1qQJ.fxln8D4JB7RcFQnDOk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20090512014404.slnbef45wk44g4cw@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <02D9A30C71B44A30BB3D57C0FA78E12F@office> <20090512014404.slnbef45wk44g4cw@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--323928857 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Looping video online (my what an original post for LD) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:22:39 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:22:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--323928857 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey guys The archive of the last looping ustream is here http:// mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com/ - thanks RE: The looping school - hit record - Loop - overdub - mangle. Course done. Good luck thou mate. MS www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > --Apple-Mail-2--323928857 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey guys=A0

The archive of the last looping ustream = is here=A0http://mattstevensguitar.bl= ogspot.com/ - thanks=A0

RE: The looping = school - hit record - Loop - overdub - mangle. =A0Course = done.

Good luck thou = mate.

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From: Charles Brown To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gr=FC=DFe?= Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:47:27 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2009 11:47:27.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C9578E0:01C9D2F7] --_2fc55de7-eb37-49f5-a62f-ba0c51e8e8e0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gr=FC=DFe Ich bin Herr Charles Brown=2C ein kanadischer Rechtsanwalt=2C der in Manche= ster=2C in Vereinigtem K=F6nigreich und im pers=F6nlichen Rechtsanwalt zu s= p=E4tem Herrn Mark Michelle gegr=FCndet wird. Sp=E4ter Herr Mark Michelle w= ar eine private =F6lberaterfremdfirma mit Shell Petroleum Development Compa= ny in Saudi-Arabien vor seinem Tod=2C im folgenden gekennzeichnet als mein = Klient. Am 3. Tag von Januar 2004=2C geh=F6rten mein Klient und seine Frau zusammen= mit ihren zwei Kindern zu den Opfern Boeing 737 des =C4gypter-Verkehrsflug= zeugs=2C die in das rote Meer zusammenstie=DFen. Sie k=F6nnen mehr =FCber d= en Abbruch lesen=2C indem Sie diese Web site besichtigen: news.bbc.co.uk/2/= hi/uk_news/politics/3365769.stm Seit damals habe ich einige Anfragen von den franz=F6sischen Botschaften se= in folgendes der St=E4mme oder irgendwelche von seinen ausgedehnten Verwand= ten ganz vergebens lokalisieren gelassen=2C aber. Mein Klient bildete eine = Ablagerung in einer Bank in Manchester=2C das momentan an US$18=2C000=2C000= .00 (achtzehn Million Vereinigte Staaten Dollar) bewertet wurde und die Ban= k hat mich eine amtliche Mitteilung herausgegeben=2C um sein folgendes des = Stamm- oder Beg=FCnstigtwillen vorbei zur Verf=FCgung zu stellen=2C andernf= alls wird das Konto innerhalb der folgenden sechzig (60) Arbeitstage konfis= ziert. Da ich erfolglos gewesen bin=2C irgendwelche von Verwandten meines sp=E4ten= Klienten f=FCr r=FCber Four (4) Jahre jetzt zu lokalisieren=2C suche ich d= eine Zustimmung=2C um mich zu erm=F6glichen anwesend du als das folgende de= s Stammbeg=FCnstigten des Zustandes meines sp=E4ten Klienten=2C damit die E= rtr=E4ge dieses Kontos auf dich gebracht w=FCrden. Bereits habe ich Modalit=E4ten f=FCr das Erzielen meines Zieles des Ernenne= ns ein folgendes der St=E4mme sowie =FCbertragung das Geld aus diesem Land = heraus dargelegt=2C damit wir das Geld im Verh=E4ltnis von 53% f=FCr mich t= eilen und 35% zu dir=2C das 2% der Kapitals dient=2C da Verg=FCtung von Unk= osten irgendwie von uns im Verlauf dieser Verhandlung bildet. W=E4hrend wir= zusammen das restliche spenden=2C von 10% zu den Tsunami Entlastung Organi= sationen ausgleichen. Es ist meine Absicht=2C diese =FCbertragung in eine gesetzma=DFige Weise zu= erzielen=2C ist alle=2C die ich ben=F6tigte=2C deine ehrliche Mitarbeit=2C= Vertraulichkeit und das Vertrauen=2C zum wir zu erm=F6glichen sehen diese = Verhandlung durch. Dieses ist ein sehr zugelassenes Gesch=E4ft=2C da=DF ich= von seinem Erfolg sehr sicher bin und absolut Gefahr frei bin. Deine Bereitwilligkeit bitte bedeuten=2C zu unterst=FCtzen=2C indem Sie mir= ein email f=FCr weitere Verfahren in bezug auf diese Verhandlung schicken.= Das email schlie=DFt die unten Informationen ein: 1.Deine Telefon- und Telefaxzahlen. 2. Deine komplette Position Adresse. Sobald ich deine positive Antwort empfange=2C versorge ich dich dann mit me= hr Details =FCber=2C wie wir mit dem Anspruch fortfahren. Ich freue=2C deine sofortige Antwort zu empfangen. Respekt=2C Herr Charles Brown=20 = --_2fc55de7-eb37-49f5-a62f-ba0c51e8e8e0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Ich bin Herr Charles Brown=2C ein kanadischer = Rechtsanwalt=2C der in Manchester=2C in Vereinigtem K=F6nigreich und im per= s=F6nlichen Rechtsanwalt zu sp=E4tem Herrn Mark Michelle gegr=FCndet wird. = Sp=E4ter Herr Mark Michelle war eine private =F6lberaterfremdfirma mit Shel= l Petroleum Development Company in Saudi-Arabien vor seinem Tod=2C im folge= nden gekennzeichnet als mein Klient.


Am 3. Tag von Januar 2004= =2C geh=F6rten mein Klient und seine Frau zusammen mit ihren zwei Kindern z= u den Opfern Boeing 737 des =C4gypter-Verkehrsflugzeugs=2C die in das rote = Meer zusammenstie=DFen. Sie k=F6nnen mehr =FCber den Abbruch lesen=2C indem= Sie diese Web site besichtigen: ne= ws.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3365769.stm


Seit damals habe ich eini= ge Anfragen von den franz=F6sischen Botschaften sein folgendes der St=E4mme= oder irgendwelche von seinen ausgedehnten Verwandten ganz vergebens lokali= sieren gelassen=2C aber. Mein Klient bildete eine Ablagerung in einer Bank = in Manchester=2C das momentan an US$18=2C000=2C000.00 (achtzehn Million Ver= einigte Staaten Dollar) bewertet wurde und die Bank hat mich eine amtliche = Mitteilung herausgegeben=2C um sein folgendes des Stamm- oder Beg=FCnstigtw= illen vorbei zur Verf=FCgung zu stellen=2C andernfalls wird das Konto inner= halb der folgenden sechzig (60) Arbeitstage konfisziert.


Da ich = erfolglos gewesen bin=2C irgendwelche von Verwandten meines sp=E4ten Klient= en f=FCr r=FCber Four (4) Jahre jetzt zu lokalisieren=2C suche ich deine Zu= stimmung=2C um mich zu erm=F6glichen anwesend du als das folgende des Stamm= beg=FCnstigten des Zustandes meines sp=E4ten Klienten=2C damit die Ertr=E4g= e dieses Kontos auf dich gebracht w=FCrden.


Bereits habe ich Mod= alit=E4ten f=FCr das Erzielen meines Zieles des Ernennens ein folgendes der= St=E4mme sowie =FCbertragung das Geld aus diesem Land heraus dargelegt=2C = damit wir das Geld im Verh=E4ltnis von 53% f=FCr mich teilen und 35% zu dir= =2C das 2% der Kapitals dient=2C da Verg=FCtung von Unkosten irgendwie von = uns im Verlauf dieser Verhandlung bildet. W=E4hrend wir zusammen das restli= che spenden=2C von 10% zu den Tsunami Entlastung Organisationen ausgleichen= .


Es ist meine Absicht=2C diese =FCbertragung in eine gesetzma= =DFige Weise zu erzielen=2C ist alle=2C die ich ben=F6tigte=2C deine ehrlic= he Mitarbeit=2C Vertraulichkeit und das Vertrauen=2C zum wir zu erm=F6glich= en sehen diese Verhandlung durch. Dieses ist ein sehr zugelassenes Gesch=E4= ft=2C da=DF ich von seinem Erfolg sehr sicher bin und absolut Gefahr frei b= in.


Deine Bereitwilligkeit bitte bedeuten=2C zu unterst=FCtzen= =2C indem Sie mir ein email f=FCr weitere Verfahren in bezug auf diese Verh= andlung schicken. Das email schlie=DFt die unten Informationen ein:

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Ich freue=2C deine sofortige Antwort zu empfangen.

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 =3B = --_2fc55de7-eb37-49f5-a62f-ba0c51e8e8e0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 11:59:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2374E3BE75; Tue, 12 May 2009 11:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1242129553; l=3637; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=eFajUTCJ0CQB3cgedlIajys5G7w=; b=Q+SjvZ/TS2V57zFL1FEAy3dzKwsP8Zv3CJw67meld8xA6rge/dEGjezzHeGwwSmGsbP vLV9Ku48Wl+QYvB4R0+dMnRsyt+CMWUHluq4kGmP+J9h6ZRT88wBHu0t2B7WKDT3B/lkb tSkGfRX8omzR07imoRn86eBnMjuLefiBLs4= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWLBOrxXsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:01:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:59:15 +0000 (UTC) that´s a very interesting view on music, Rick. I am practising Zazen for quite some time, and I am sure it has influenced my playing over the years in a way. But I never watched it in this radical way you do it. I have to read Suzuki´s book again and replace the word Zazen with Musical Practise. Funny to imagine having an instrument in every room, even in the bathroom and playing my loops. What I can recommend anyway is, that it is very helpful to be open-minded and have a still mind if you are playing your music. There is a big difference if my mind is in a calm mood or if I finished my daily work and are stressed and then playing guitar. If I´m relaxed and really into it, playing guitar for me is like meditation. Somebody should write a book - or is there already one? - "Zen and Music"... I also like musicians/artists biographies a lot. Recently read the bio of the great british DJ John Peel. Very funny and entertaining. Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives > A friend of mine asked me, recently, what books have truly and deeply > influenced my music > in my life and, amongst other titles, I sang him the praises of > Shinryu Suzuki's book called, > "Zen Mind , Beginners' Mind". > > Though not as famous a D T Suzuki who was the great popularizer of > Japanese Zen Buddhism in the > west, I prefer Shunryu Suzuki, the head of the San Francisco Zen > Center who > wrote perhaps the best single book on practicing a musical instrument, > "Zen Mind, Beginners' Mind". > > He never actually wrote a book and certainly not on praciticing a > musical instrument.....he was too zen for that...lol, > but his students recorded his answers to a public question and answer > seminar where everyone asked him how > he was able to master meditating successfully considering that it is so > difficult to still the human mind when > trying to do such an extremely simple, non-intellectual and repetitive > practice. > > If you take that book and substitute the word 'Zazen' (the Buddhistic > practice of > meditating only on your breath and how we breathe, in and out) and put > musical "practice", it's an incredibly > wise book about how to still the mind so that one can play something > over and over > and over until one's technique improves significantly. > > I'd try to paraphrase his philosophy and his understanding of how to > get around the projecting and over identifying/attached nature of the > human mind, particularly > viz a vis the practice of repetitive musical playing but I just > wouldn't come close to > how profound that book is. > > I actually ritualistically purchase a copy of it and give it as a > present to all of my advanced students > when they first develop the desire to really woodshed their instrument > deeply and are having troubles > stilling their minds doing so. > > It was my bible when I finally was able to master double stroke bouncing > exercises on trapset many years ago > At that time, I had a practice pad on a stand with two identical > drumsticks in every single room of the house > (including the kitchen and the bathroom) so that if I ever looked down, > I could just pick the sticks up and continue > practicing. > > I can't more highly recommend it. It has changed my life and the life > of dozens of my really good students over the > last three decades. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 12:07:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 269F23BE7E; Tue, 12 May 2009 12:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:07:25 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:07:26 +0000 (UTC) > I'd been working with using a pitch shifter on the Aux Outs for a > while. When he brought up the idea of using that in conjunction with > the LP1's (then new) transposition function to achieve time > stretch/compress, I had a genuine "palm meets forehead" moment. Hi Mech, I have just started to use the aux outputs of the LP1. What I'm going to = try is to program a switch on my MFC which fires the follow commands: 1) LP1 =3D> Half speed 2) LP1 =3D> Assign to AUX 1 3) Mainstage or Bidule =3D> Activate Pitchshifter I haven't tried the following, but since we have two AUX outputs so if yo= u combine the new LP1 functions (3rd, 4th ,5th etc) with a pitchsifter, I= 'm curious if you could create usuable three-note chords. I have also been experimenting by copying a loop to a new track and play = it half speed. If you do this with percussion or drums, you get a nice sy= ncopation effect. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 12:58:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CF773BE7F; Tue, 12 May 2009 12:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5mkdRwnFXgUVY9nDlkNS8Di1CdoDQg1NPjcBXjlWW3k=; b=Dky3S1B3I4dIHLv14wRalV4Q+WyAbklPi4LAtTCPEEy6ljaka9iyNB+fUL1o7FcVUL NpsF32IIeSZ6CcII8nQHCLcOxp06RnSO53BmldVitZCwZiI44D9XbEH/5py5wZOKvAbE c2VbCv80A5yi+3Tp6KOcyl88Ix0WAT4+LplAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UwMOvXrVw2IoTVZ4KgEmF6Drzu1gGathi2lErDdFFjBgA0mHTSfnMQ0fZr9C2FIIrH HnM+CLEHgudMXGCGNs0h0VOqsA55i/CPop8GAO5YAXjhfecQG0DAqts193VJ7EPW0pdu t+VgryyvLGgfXwOHMddeK5DY7LTdWrmrBZOlY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:52:08 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905120552lb6daf0ax5313b6376758387c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:58:28 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Christo Jota wrote: > What I can recommend anyway is, that it is very helpful to be open-minded > and have a still mind if you are playing your music. There is a big > difference > if my mind is in a calm mood or if I finished my daily work and are > stressed and then playing guitar. If I=E6=83=B4 relaxed and really into i= t, playing > guitar > for me is like meditation. > Somebody should write a book - or is there already one? - "Zen and Music"= ... I'm finding this highly interesting because my experience is the opposite. Of course nothing is "right" or "wrong" here, I guess it's just another wonderful example of how we humans work differently. Before having experienced much zen meditation praxis I thought it should work just as you are putting it, for me. But as I started meditating on a daily basis I noticed over time that I became a less creative musician as a side effect. And I came to realize that other aspects of zen, than ze-zen (sitting, silencing mind and thoughts), were better suited for my temperament and the way my emotional/mental system works. Whenever I get hit by the feeling that I'm just about to explode I pick up an instrument and it helps me to totally explode. The zen techniques allow me to stay focused inside the explosion and expand with it, directing the power without standing in the way. Today I see nothing in "exploding" that contradicts "being calm and relaxed". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:00:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8854D3BE82; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Fjo4yajNeaG/R8NnQ3hD4wxiWh67vmZA9IzyBKrtyjo=; b=dzkMTTOOSzCQTJA0WklgNNO6HDdVgbxwZ1gFrMPe3IW1P796d6WT37tidmfzLimvJS zPEfRV3WIx5HoID2+5KN5VR1JgmV95xBkzY7Dwv9l3x8bgZk1CqVH2ZTNTxfLQvWP+1N SVSLItL8t/Ni5qULfUhairmDJV99Mkf84LypI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=QbZ1SDO3c+o1F6wyVt2J1fJonbvIszjmnEpvANMTmKpb5DyFCF/C05+3PrlsjC/791 mJdYiTngKXhBiUAjdWnpXX9dkOFu5NifTkzTLN7FokbXIMkHVT1BBiIYI0EhXyya/dAj 4eeOhauNwoiuP51l7SDaPIvEyFEX8fTy3eOYc= Message-Id: <0CE119E8-4A9B-487E-8D15-7A226A1B4FAA@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <672786.79604.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: David Gans Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:59:43 -0300 References: <672786.79604.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:00:12 +0000 (UTC) right! and he is (or has been on this list) and you made me include him in my "video art" playlist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd7PHjy4k_c&feature=channel_page On 11 May 2009, at 20:07, murkie wrote: > > for those of you who are Talking Heads fans there's a really nice > book on the history of the band that was published in the mid-80s. > it was written by some guy named Gans. think he might be a looper. > > 8^{)} > m > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:02:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFA9B3BE8D; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Joey Edwin" To: Subject: RE: Looping video online (my what an original post for LD) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:02:54 -0500 Organization: Joey Edwin Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9D2D8.0E38EB70" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcnS65jUIFzSPl3GRSWnHQWNlmgz3AAFiOQg Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:02:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9D2D8.0E38EB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Matt, =20 This is a teaser video not all I have to give:-) You didn't see Star = Wars Part I, II, III, IV etc. all in one seating right? =20 Cheers:-) =20 Best Regards, Joey Edwin=20 219.613.7148 www.joeyedwin.com =20 -----Original Message----- From: Matt Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping video online (my what an original post for LD) =20 Hey guys=20 =20 The archive of the last looping ustream is here http://mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com/ - thanks=20 =20 RE: The looping school - hit record - Loop - overdub - mangle. Course = done. =20 Good luck thou mate. =20 MS www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9D2D8.0E38EB70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Matt,

 

This is a teaser video not all I = have to giveJ  You didn’t see Star Wars Part I, II, III, IV = etc… all in one seating right?

 

CheersJ

 

Best = Regards,

Joey = Edwin

219.613.7148

www.joeyedwin.com

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: Matt Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, = 2009 5:23 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Looping video = online (my what an original post for LD)

 

Hey guys 

 

The archive of the last looping ustream is = here http://mattstevensguitar.b= logspot.com/ - thanks 

 

RE: The looping school - hit record - Loop - = overdub - mangle.  Course done.

 

Good luck thou mate.

 

MS

www.mattsteve= nsguitar.com

 

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C9D2D8.0E38EB70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:24:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C0183BE88; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; bh=gTEREt09mk+ioDBxLhS+NoK7vKt3vQeJAmeCb5bGzVg=; b=XFjp+w4odmGb4RUsxPrq7p3Ar6W0GgiRn1I42dB6WBlxjmLqb7LaA8v5o9EjXhZOlT lTX6r4ahAVQGHeNMKUkGKLhQxF5V3oIVlrwc2oUshYsF/Wc8NYef0v7mOzC4AmVIuCoN swvMBQPEPxg7ndK0nAVdpwTzHwFKT0EE/T3ZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date :references:x-mailer; b=Ucw7LiIjcl/HVfFsJM27kbbG5AGJI70w3OopW/+6zHC8VyALFcSdpsaq0jCt9zb6U5 NCzu9U4V8Owl6fveIu3wsM0VvNFRO1usAYXkCknPZfSHGg81qospCSeSlf1wA/qXYhnp pF4X60hmPU5MNIX5DmA9cYlN62jLSCNYXl/C8= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <02D9A30C71B44A30BB3D57C0FA78E12F@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Online Looping School & More! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:23:38 -0300 References: <02D9A30C71B44A30BB3D57C0FA78E12F@office> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1gfr6B.A.0bC.EiXCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Joey, since this list exists 13 years and started with guys who were doing it for 10+ years then, time does not impress. that you make a living with it is great, many don't get there, many don't want to. many here know about the Boss pedals limitations and worked a lot to get beyond. check it out! My intention for http://livelooping.org is to gather such teaching videos of all styles. The past months, I am mainly writing about all aspects for that site, and I am amazed myself on how broad and complex and fundamentally new and different tracks we are... http://trance.edu is giving me new impulses. so yes, your efforts are welcome and there are a lot of people you can help and if you want to do your school on you own, thats not a problem! but I admit I also had a feeling that an old friend once explained me: "when you sit down at a card game table, check out first who is giving out the cards and who throws the first one" good loop! Matthias On 11 May 2009, at 23:01, Joey Edwin wrote: > Hi Rainer, > > I'm not sure how I should respond to your email exactly but I've been > looping for over 10+ years. I want to share secrets on how to make a > living > with the loop pedal since I've toured the world with mine. Yes, I am > trying > to teach the old farts that got stuck along the way but hopefully will > attract some developed talent to help further the community too. > The Boss > Loop Station is the only pedal that worked for me, but I'm certainly > not > knockin' others! > > If you can build a loop pedal great, if you can program a loop pedal > I'm all > ears, if you've toured the world playing loops that's awesome.... > but please > share your experience instead of criticizing my knowledge in trying > to help > others.... Thanks:) > > Best Regards, > Joey Edwin > 219.613.7148 > www.joeyedwin.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rainer Straschill [mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:12 PM > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Online Looping School & More! > > Joey said: > >> I currently perform 250+ shows per year using my Loop Pedal. It's >> time I > provide you with my Looping Information. > > Great. Another geek who bought a Boss loop pedal and now starts a new > community and explains how to do looping to those old farts who never > understood their MAX/MSP thingies in the first place. > I'm looking forward to The Looping School covering loop windowing in > conjunction with granular sus use...;) > > Nice playing on that vid, tho'. > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:26:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 650C13BE8C; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Subject: RE: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:26:33 +0200 Message-ID: <007201c9d305$44e056e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: AcnTA1JLwmmQpO3/QqSwws5Zz9MfWQAAbLVA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.166; VDF: 7.1.3.190) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:26:36 +0000 (UTC) > Somebody should write a book - or is there already one? - "Zen and Music"... http://tinyurl.com/pnsek2 -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:28:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53DEC3BE8B; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bj9k3ySG9sUcnzFFQqYGdRwJ0/Wqr2R6EhHz28Bn8aQ=; b=BcmiPww6pQ5baCTY1K8Tkg1kOF32bmluP5FkL+8Xcn+vuDtkXhkLTX3+dCSZKP6XWT 32Q7+HFRySxom5xYHYndJEcdReUorTkfTE4GZBPG5PdoLIOVD+vFYX0SZL/G7k9HeIUs zVIEd4MuAFzjiuwfweiyqTQEwIa3YAYWaRuf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xtubOIhyBuozlbSAjVco4HrEyrSWCz9/pu/2wKlWvrSLKtbee/mCD4IKmAp4RxFJAZ 4ecM56a4ioQWqoRXhi8TfV8loQfZRDEx3pMYtWGkAPd9qM2y9A02RE1orhL1x8WgqDng EIob3GBGlQHiCdcKibMekQwbUkomXZLTlxq9I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905120107h55d29e7fg16790d09a09a3c4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090511174013.94k4nspwcg0ss40c@webmail.musetrap.com> <66f9cc1e0905120107h55d29e7fg16790d09a09a3c4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:28:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Record From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Looks like a very cool program. My only gripe is no external plugins. I'm sure Propellerheads includes lots of very cool stuff, but people who've invested time and effort and money into using and learning their plugins might not want to give that up. Still, I'm going to check out the beta. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:40 AM, =A0 wrote: >> Here are some more videos 'splaining Record: >> http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2009/05/propellerheads-launches-their-la= test.html > > > Thanks you, that were a bunch of good videos. Now I finally was able > to form an opinion on REcord ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:36:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 998B03BE98; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X6RObzpNEY/pTK6UmBH7xNPTH9Q5qGkQczkVCbg4v+E=; b=pJ8NCiNVLC7JZ8TJG02amMl6uxV66TGR1cDVxJ+HXeWdKZ5+HDJGnO7hB7i8KxpWKH 8WLFcEYCWLWJbRyWrKY8v5HVJHc/fb7IllLnQ6Vl7eFkUuFxZ+VXzHqsxgwqWRo0gNm6 47X++vf51KhM149/WPX5NUmqejD0k4q+SR6/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MU9RFi28E9u8JaFj0qzR+yKaM0MXBI2jjrgxpGq9mP2TDNZgGbLJK3msiqo5pCQP82 eDfo8hmjs7MesHSutMo3oM0Yaz0eYHEuLOlG7D5qGt1ipo5KtyJLNCl44KzpRrFYxV53 TWAT/Y8woNxgnCaZ1PcFuSRomd567+kMVSxZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090511174013.94k4nspwcg0ss40c@webmail.musetrap.com> <66f9cc1e0905120107h55d29e7fg16790d09a09a3c4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:36:35 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905120636ma9270aax607b6aa3621a70a5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Record From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:36:36 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Tony K wrote: > =C2=A0I'm sure Propellerheads includes lots of very cool stuff, but peopl= e > who've invested time and effort and money into using and learning > their plugins might not want to give that up. That's right. But this application is not intended for them. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:38:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E085A3BE8A; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Omid Shirazi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--312183259 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: anybody out there? Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:38:25 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:38:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--312183259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, i am new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching you! If yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:) thanx, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 --Apple-Mail-3--312183259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,

i am = new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching = you!

If yes, so = please give me some = echo-cho-oo..:)

thanx,
Omid

audio visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223
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= --Apple-Mail-3--312183259-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:47:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2431C3BEBE; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9/2aB9SPJuLhJSoTq/vE3SiSvsHDMsYBeOnSeTcaTDw=; b=mla8NtYJMr2wucd1Q1LP1X+x+dW+nPKONCOaW+RSG06lcHM0TKBr71dJg9Hz1aXq30 hDTnViQW7oURuDktfMOtE/Xf8XnqEH60M3JBDXTbUxzizH/3B0zZrazDRPfZfUrn33P+ 3sIY71XX9ZLgZxzyCRcp506wNxAhC3EmX7nQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UkCo+ruHQvmOUn0VX5LNhDgYzrY+E/Ewpvy+8UZHgL++sT5N++vvpt6oSP4LDVZyae pHAPjEPlo39M0E+JHuTQwvBgGiRxwh6J8j1NbQPTzANT9lS3oPyldRBqt++581/sCgBz 01ndYiDp/G8N2j6OtTvWmGU1VVe8OvCJ94SFI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <007201c9d305$44e056e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <007201c9d305$44e056e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:47:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0dfh7B.A.YPE.-3XCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:47:43 +0000 (UTC) I read that. As I recall it was good, but not life changing. Maybe I should try again, I could use some change. ;) On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> Somebody should write a book - or is there already one? - "Zen and > Music"... > > http://tinyurl.com/pnsek2 > > -Michael > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 13:53:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EC1A3BEA2; Tue, 12 May 2009 13:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=upSFmzvlbfkJumMoyolUHQu1JhJVdgsaiFYcJ6XC7mE=; b=G0VFB1WcLHrZjBAVgVBLTTbU6NCVB3p19FizY7EYrjnxgudJR0+7NWh/7zBz4sgI3y L3m2WNf3gGyEcWJ8/88BQkOae0cvAeQ/EfOJ4AaFjkv9rD849RD/R91BFTgAM7JOvDNR oIaLxeDqDuCPQz7lq4rQhzzFo5GCVPDewRD6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lpAccBm87XRJ8luYOXHpfkwvYxVEbKnJ5ScjJJCixNJsg7rJtAFJbRvfju+cUbrNoK nPU6ENjnISKmBBynNOMyfTSArKGa0D9uA/oo7DkVOTcAEI3y5ZUDC5MmH4vgAqTWAWyU i+RipnEq2qbCIW6qOm35IjExZWHf0ziWU1oh8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000301c9d2b7$26f21fe0$74d65fa0$@com> References: <99096E48C26D43EEBF30B2DF90134857@NORBY11> <844985.42248.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <000301c9d2b7$26f21fe0$74d65fa0$@com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:53:34 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750905120653g366ad938ob82fa39492e1d1dc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: the amazing Adrian Parker fly From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6468f68c294c80469b76b30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:53:35 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6468f68c294c80469b76b30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'll bet if you remove adrian's name/endorsement, it goes back to being a normally-overpriced parker instead of an astronomically-overpriced parker. i love parker guitars and would like to own an older one (i've heard that the quality went downhill after parker was sold), but at 9K you're firmly planted in custom guitar price range and you can get something WAY nicer for that kinda cash. - jim --0016e6468f68c294c80469b76b30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'll bet if you remove adrian's name/endorsement, it goes back to b= eing a normally-overpriced parker instead of an astronomically-overpriced p= arker.=A0 i love parker guitars and would like to own an older one (i'v= e heard that the quality went downhill after parker was sold), but at 9K yo= u're firmly planted in custom guitar price range and you can get someth= ing WAY nicer for that kinda cash.

- jim
--0016e6468f68c294c80469b76b30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 14:16:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C94063BE97; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2b91714ca0771c60f60672f2aad76ae4@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: anybody out there? Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:16:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Loud and clear. > Hello, > > i am new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching you! > > If yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:) > > thanx, > Omid > > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 14:21:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DBC23BEA0; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SpamGroup: 2000 X-CM-Cat: Undefined:Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=m39u4BOgAAAA:8 a=bEw7tzaQ6wpGpemYnnMA:9 a=cc1utmEWLFQvFSRj2O989nJjp8wA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=E4iGBcHZAIsA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=keiQBbv4BOiahWCAkUIA:9 a=DLB6_VqFOZXxHCsnfmcA:7 a=xCXPPS7nrEwp4af6QpFSh4PuOAYA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Message-ID: From: "rick miller" To: References: <2b91714ca0771c60f60672f2aad76ae4@charter.net> Subject: Re: anybody out there? Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:22:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C9D2EB.804346D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <1W24-.A.BrG._XYCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:21:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C9D2EB.804346D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just read it :O) rick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: anybody out there? Loud and clear. > Hello, > > i am new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching you! > > If yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:) > > thanx, > Omid > > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 > > ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C9D2EB.804346D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just read it :O)
 
rick
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 tEd =AE=20 KiLLiAn
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 = 10:16=20 AM
Subject: Re: anybody out = there?

Loud and clear.


> Hello,
>
> = i am new=20 to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching = you!
>
> If=20 yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:)
>
> = thanx,
>=20 Omid
>
> audio visual artist
> mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
= >=20 phone: +49-178-78 52 = 223
>
>

------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C9D2EB.804346D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 14:37:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08EA53BEC0; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U5JUCVkjr94iIoIXlU25AzocUNwPoTYJswAByjjJgEI=; b=dJCRw7iChcltjbLRl/g4h+xX8sRGvQT94GsRMxkxMuC72rzZpzvGk5h0bf4jlAbO36 NOQ80dKRvMFNsqLrqxMMgMlRKCsn8UWgpQ/GJyE6PFqJJ5fMCcdyasz8RlKnF363+hNd ALajBIAxkt/TJXS2/ZojIbVwRXblfX+BvTdAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BMwK4VdWNzQdabZHKTdBzfX9rkEMFtxJLS87tcxKnbcfqdgItauTfO77XzLjyaE5Hy LL+utN+jUUjUctUuUKapd8tWHmHz06sbPBDw2D8XW+WpzkYFRi4kvotVk2i1UM21Z/8W 7h4lLBDe5NrUnZZHK1sajP4U/ZQawZRFUyWbY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905120636ma9270aax607b6aa3621a70a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090511174013.94k4nspwcg0ss40c@webmail.musetrap.com> <66f9cc1e0905120107h55d29e7fg16790d09a09a3c4c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905120636ma9270aax607b6aa3621a70a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:14:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Record From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:37:54 +0000 (UTC) I completely understand their reasons (I've spent plenty of time re-writing code to get rid of 3rd party components, so I have a lot of sympathy!) Having 100% control of code is a good thing. It's just sort of disappointing that what looks like something I'd dig, is missing something I want. In the one video, the guy did say that this is the first iteration, so who knows what'll happen. I think maybe putting a plugin chain in the mixing console would work. But, as long as I could export the whole thing as a set of tracks, I could suck it into Sonar and I'd be golden. :) On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Tony K wrote: >> =A0I'm sure Propellerheads includes lots of very cool stuff, but people >> who've invested time and effort and money into using and learning >> their plugins might not want to give that up. > > > That's right. But this application is not intended for them. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 14:51:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC3913BEC2; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lyx7f3jq7vsk5ekY9n439SYEJx9uUGqbbP9l44dV/sg=; b=M2on54FPUooL3rA0gJ+P4OIbAV6hc0EpGRH8oWHmVITEip5Q07G4RRV5qtxFwXvIGX vWN91jSZg1n1JoMgwdynRG4oOUC4RoBJHrCbztO/zN9u6rT2YlUlCTLu9XARe769Dc1A PsXCwpeTK0Bap/oSYHDlDrWSXTTftcxrMErjk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aMhMH/eTbHKld0RPPU74NYI4PvksxgAd+9yJVVuB0v4IGscTjUl2TaVQnwLoHBiBGj 6A+LUY0slgpMOlJJeSNrU+7/uDGRhEsPSPiMUJ96xNEN04KZ0oI7APtKyDU3iVRaYBv8 RvDQSUUNSqGZNb/ANNzlKaZ1PWZ1wW82NbTtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2b91714ca0771c60f60672f2aad76ae4@charter.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:51:20 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905120751n2df575degfe7d9940b5a43685@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anybody out there? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b0d45bd0c70469b83aee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:51:22 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b0d45bd0c70469b83aee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Omid welcome... On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:22 AM, rick miller wrote: > I just read it :O) > > rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* tEd =AE KiLLiAn > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:16 AM > *Subject:* Re: anybody out there? > > Loud and clear. > > > > Hello, > > > > i am new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching you! > > > > If yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:) > > > > thanx, > > Omid > > > > audio visual artist > > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 > > > > > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b0d45bd0c70469b83aee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Omid welcome...

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:22 AM, rick miller <bs@tanawana.com&= gt; wrote:
I just read it :O)
=A0
rick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:16 AM=
Subject: Re: anybody out there?

Loud and clear.


> Hello,
>
> i am = new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching you!
>
= > If yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:)
>
> thanx,<= br> > Omid
>
> audio visual artist
> mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
> phone: +49-178-78 52 223
>
>




--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming= soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5b0d45bd0c70469b83aee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 14:59:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A0573BEC0; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 393 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:59:11 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oj/6lD4ay80f2gEbCz/yjY72LtyKuJjxwxySi9hurWo=; b=UghuGA/JksPWwAf4GHZz+RA+nQv74UQJ0FR1cpfFD+lZ6HBOytQdyhGpxGmBB+aac7 msAcEmcobH5iVFj2gQ38u2XhEezeYhXZVTWocoPpda86x4OvAiQq/XJwhhfsf1u76fzr k7qLYca1l+Ui7WHiXMo/UAWSjVYe//uXa2fGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cNUKzKd7LQ/vL6Ma4BSLpaEh1+RZFLan2FZZ65frSe+lr/2F/vGi9oMnb78mv4tuhp GSsGXnLnF3bbsuNlxS0MhQQv+vEjaKq6Wk5J8FiyYiPWpifURTD7hGngiETR2vB8Njh1 HIeKhGoh8aGTyXu2EJhN+Ln4cedu+UG1xKt/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02D9A30C71B44A30BB3D57C0FA78E12F@office> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:52:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Online Looping School & More! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) I used to work for a company that produced corporate events and along with a lot of cheese and pop music, I've actually seen them use some really cool (and loop orientated) musicians such as The Magnetic Poets http://www.magneticpoets.com/hellopage.html and Tim Barsky http://www.timbarsky.com/audionvideoyou.htm Tim and his band played at my wedding. Does that make him a sell out or a dork? ... or does it make me cool? (answer: neither) There are very few ways to make a living in the music business. It's for sure not for me, but I can't cut a guy down for it. What's way worse to me is the non sell outs who live on public assistance, their parents or mates and trust fund money and claim to be "real artists." M On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > Joey, > > since this list exists 13 years and started with guys who were doing it for > 10+ years then, time does not impress. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 14:59:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DA153BECF; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0CF26D3C6D104FB78991492001399FF4@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: , References: Subject: Re: anybody out there? Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:59:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9D323.0B97E5B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:59:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9D323.0B97E5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Increase your level....I can't hear well here in Italy ;-) Fabio www.livelooping.it www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Omid Shirazi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:38 PM Subject: anybody out there? Hello, i am new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching you! If yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:) thanx, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2110 - Release Date: = 05/12/09 06:22:00 ------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9D323.0B97E5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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i am new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching=20 you!

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thanx,
Omid

audio visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223


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------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C9D323.0B97E5B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 15:30:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC4193BEC9; Tue, 12 May 2009 15:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Christo Jota" Cc: "Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Christo wrote:. > What I can recommend anyway is, that it is very helpful to be open-minded > and have a still mind if you are playing your music. I hear what you are saying Christo, but I also like something the Dalai Lama once said (when applied to music and badly paraphrased): "Be what you are in the moment. If you are happy, be happy. If you are angry, be angry" I had an amazing set at the Boise Creative and Improvisational Music Festival a couple of weeks ago where every single major piece of gear that I own went south on me (even the mic stand broke and the mics failed twice on me) where I had no control over what was going on. I was really angry about it, but I used that anger and surfed it and the result was one of my better shows (or so several people told me). I think the one of the points of zen in a way is to be present in the moment..........to watch ourselves and be aware of our surroundings. I'm not a practising buddhist so I need to leave this to people like Michael Peters who have put tremendous amount of time and energy into following this path, but that's what I take from it all. I find that if I really try to be aware of my musical surrounding; the state of the audience as much as I'm able to perceive it; the consciousness and innercommunication between musicians, that music can be created with great meaning and depth. It's what I call 'deep listening' when I am talking to my students. I've noticed that a lot of musicians are not present when they play. Frequently, I think we have a tendency to project onto our playing. Because we intend to play something we hear it happening when , in reality we may be far from it. Because rhythm has been my deepest area of study, I really notice this tendency in rhythmical errors made by musicians. Looping actually is one of the great teachers of listening I have found. When your loop is lumpy, boy , it's lumpy, no matter how much you tried to not make it be that way. Emotional states also carry different temporal feels with them. When you are anxious, you are more likely to anticipate and play ahead of the beat. When you are really tired or depressed there is a tendency to drag tempos. I have tried to get students (and myself) to imagine different emotional states when attempting to play ahead or behind the metronome when practising so as to cultivate the ability to play either side of the rhythmic 'feel'. Buy imagining that your are anxious or frustrated; depressed or tired, it is possible to effect how accurately you play to a metronomic pulse (on either side of the 'perfect' beat). When one is deeply agitated or chemically impaired (or both!!), you can use these emotional projections to counteract the normal place that you might play the beat. You can also manipulate someone who is dragging or rushing by cultivating a 'faux' emotional state that has the opposite effect as their rhythmic tendency. All human beings have a tendency to entrain, so they will unconciously change their rhythmic feel just to be 'together' with you, rhythmically. It's subtle but definitely cultivateable. In the 80's I learned how to do this with both drunk and/or coke freak musicians. On the clock as a studio musician, I needed to be able to affect the entire feel of the rhythm section if there was one musician who was a bit out of control, rhythmically speaking. Christo also wrote: > I also like musicians/artists biographies a lot. Recently read the bio of > the great british DJ John Peel. Very funny and entertaining. Ahhhhh, cool, I want to read that. One of the greatest thrills in my life was when Bill's and my new wave band, Tao Chemical, had our album played on John Peel's show in the UK. I still have a cassette recording of that. He was an amazing man and an incredibly powerful force in promoting creativity and community in the new music scene. He is missed by millions. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 15:56:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39A413BED3; Tue, 12 May 2009 15:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:56:49 -0500 Subject: RE: Looping video online (my what an original post for LD) Thread-Topic: Looping video online (my what an original post for LD) Thread-Index: AcnS65jUIFzSPl3GRSWnHQWNlmgz3AAFiOQgAAYQX7A= Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7149C25F7B654@barq.sailpoint.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:56:55 +0000 (UTC) > You didn't see Star Wars Part I, II, III, IV etc... > all in one seating right? =20 I did. But it required a lot of chemical amusement aids. =20 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 19:03:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1667F3BE77; Tue, 12 May 2009 19:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IdqmK6iXGGijjRZSXD/s0z1/T4X1sVDdRunFwvkyvnk=; b=NE+g6yBgfLAcG3s7FX03IiZpbL1IqGcGDm1Z4YeJwi+0LBVStT3N+xwsBE7Q6Iww1i PGGvMB4HYBsQlm1Qx9+u3tMOoizLUqw2u/EMs4WKKlZMnjqsRMVRkM9QJghPXjjH3Pfb oL6JVbgGflH4T4684xPR2BWbiYRQLaH40O1dQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x7n8SY9KH2VjfVH6UmOw1k8j8t4VzSN48WKqKRP7EDC6P9pBEfvHaXyO+7MadIHu9k mcdL3zEt4qYoIxN5S/mexdJUJDCxkj4I0R7APvorUi2E8LU+W9Mb2uBL6KUWvI8OLyDp 8rGkjNpIw58rW9GambMh1KPRUr6uhx6Br/4Gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44e368750905120653g366ad938ob82fa39492e1d1dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <99096E48C26D43EEBF30B2DF90134857@NORBY11> <844985.42248.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <000301c9d2b7$26f21fe0$74d65fa0$@com> <44e368750905120653g366ad938ob82fa39492e1d1dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:03:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the amazing Adrian Parker fly From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5WBzIB.A.g7G.3fcCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Exactly. I never liked the feel of the Parkers anyway. I wouldn't care about the piezo either. I have a sustainiac, so all I really need to have my perfect version of that guitar is the modeling, but I could add a Roland VG-99 for that. I haven't. I guess it's not that important to me. Now, if that guitar made me play like Adrain... I'd have two. ;) On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:53 AM, james fowler wrote: > i'll bet if you remove adrian's name/endorsement, it goes back to being a > normally-overpriced parker instead of an astronomically-overpriced parker. > i love parker guitars and would like to own an older one (i've heard that > the quality went downhill after parker was sold), but at 9K you're firmly > planted in custom guitar price range and you can get something WAY nicer for > that kinda cash. > > - jim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 19:11:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77A433BE86; Tue, 12 May 2009 19:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001101c9d335$6b7c1070$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: preamp choices - OT Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:11:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C9D34E.9085FDE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:11:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C9D34E.9085FDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, i am about to upgrade my studio with new mic preamps, synths, mixer etc. = i am very interested in the millennia micpreamp ( with an hi-z = instrument input ) stt-1. i plan to use this unit with acoustic guitar, = my new cello guitar, bass and other instruments besides the normal mic = input. has anyone used this unit? will very much appreciate your = comments. the link for the unit : http://www.mil-media.com/stt-1.html also the instrument input of the millennia is around 1 megohms ( = impedance ). i was wondering if a difference betweem 10 and 1 megaohm = would make a difference in the tonal character. thanks as always. best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C9D34E.9085FDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey,
 
i am about to upgrade my studio with new mic preamps, synths, mixer = etc. i=20 am very interested in the millennia micpreamp ( with an hi-z instrument = input )=20 stt-1. i plan to use this unit with acoustic guitar, my new cello = guitar, bass=20 and other instruments besides the normal mic input. has anyone used this = unit?=20 will very much appreciate your comments.
 
the link for the unit : http://www.mil-media.com/stt= -1.html
 
also the instrument input of the millennia is around 1 megohms ( = impedance=20 ). i was wondering if a difference betweem 10 and 1 megaohm would make a = difference in the tonal character.
 
thanks as always. best regards.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
 
"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus
 
"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
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Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 12 May 2009, = at 15:16, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

Loud and clear.


=
Hello,

i am new = to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching you!

If yes, = so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:)

Omid

audio = visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
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= --Apple-Mail-2--290662180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 12 23:13:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D22A3BE6F; Tue, 12 May 2009 23:13:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242170007; bh=LE1TustXj0nTNPZN3wrAxTz8Tr9kgurH08fx/DE4+YE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=42xZ64Mn2OSnKDD8hdwQGsCH4WPlqtyM4VnsdmuN2kcDZIULLCu6VTZbNG3VB1YoAc0jZaxEHhfn8YGAbP58dzhO096K52zEQAMJoPQ1lzAjsd9AknnF9J97V2maoZHR6iePYITYbmBszxB9T78Umb7hBOMTSctB0OLZQH4UWJ4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IZcWN9nXmjIfJejshHItYrgfZivpCvZx4iY/jYMJlsK8qHVQZ7VwwUZ19jpBZ1F4ORdGXAoak7EIksFrGgbr2u9y/XaTzkZPInKr49eohQTxonUya8doSCOPRUJAF7MVRp1vdrd5MjFHqAdN1aQaumz3syArKZODB06+uqzXT4k=; Message-ID: <711722.57146.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:13:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: the amazing Adrian Parker fly To: Per Boysen Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905120021r251f8cf7r92734438785375a7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:13:29 +0000 (UTC) by the way is there a big difference between the sustaniac stealth and the = sustainer system from fernandes? > The combination of a DiMarzio (Dual Sound model) and Alan > Hoovers > Sustaniac Stealth would be my choice as well. And that long > ugly upper > horn is justified because it makes the instrument balance > comfortably. > I would prefer it fretless though. And cheaper ;-) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 00:12:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F12833BE75; Wed, 13 May 2009 00:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0952dd25-fa6b-413a-8ef0-95d29b002950_" X-Originating-IP: [98.207.42.147] From: samba - To: Subject: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:12:28 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090511122236.38D8C3BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090511122236.38D8C3BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2009 00:12:28.0657 (UTC) FILETIME=[806A3E10:01C9D35F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:12:29 +0000 (UTC) --_0952dd25-fa6b-413a-8ef0-95d29b002950_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Tuning of the World=2CHistory of the Soundscape by Murray Shafer= =2Che also coined the term Schizophonia Flash of the Spirit =2C by Robert= Farris Thompson =20 "He=92s looking at a shrunken head inside of a glass case in some museum wi= th a bunch of other people and he=92s wondering if any of these people real= ize that they could be looking at one of their ancestors."=20 Bob Dylan on Barrack Obama --_0952dd25-fa6b-413a-8ef0-95d29b002950_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= --_0952dd25-fa6b-413a-8ef0-95d29b002950_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 00:31:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 487BC3BE75; Wed, 13 May 2009 00:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242174662; bh=wXe/pMk7ajWdVC21va/vgcZtNNzwI6tEIiDbMB6i7cU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eszFlhg3NyF7lp7JFdhWJ7hWtm0kzSG8/OQYwXtCV1/Xl72M33r5ysL5r5BQE/bFrsnHkwkt1wY4vUuOr+yrbXoNm/qfRXG2lnsMBZgIQ1QGv0Wibg1om9I2T/eRRf3KsSsns+9NMtE4/e76NaZ7pNwrY7e7RPRqozONzGwuNy4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=M5+cvT9vp18iEUOBsbUqEp/3/uYmjiA6CqVTvd4GwiK2IYvlsffg+dH4+pMlzQ3P3SVuE5hKyetbgPhH6QkEEO2ZSiKh6ufdgvEbNQmoi0TJGeaRFp1280wtpEpfyZKYEQxNgGGKFAPNqqBzYZZE0OwppZx89wLkeluNwNL+rvE=; Message-ID: <104305.42120.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:31:01 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: the amazing Adrian Parker fly To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:31:03 +0000 (UTC) agree,i also tried that line 6 variax a while ago and didnt like it at all = it sounded quite cheap to my ears and probably wouldnt even use those sound= s but is cool having all that functionality even though the guitar looks real= ly low key,and if it really doesnt go out of tune doing all those dive bomb= s as he says without having a horrible floyd rose then is a step ahead thou= gh for that price id also buy a car first;-) Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 12.5.2009: > Von: Mark Sottilaro > Betreff: Re: the amazing Adrian Parker fly > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009, 12:03 > Exactly. I never liked the feel of the Parkers anyway. I > wouldn't > care about the piezo either. I have a sustainiac, so all I > really > need to have my perfect version of that guitar is the > modeling, but I > could add a Roland VG-99 for that. I haven't. I guess > it's not that > important to me. >=20 > Now, if that guitar made me play like Adrain... I'd > have two. ;) >=20 >=20 > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:53 AM, james fowler > wrote: > > i'll bet if you remove adrian's > name/endorsement, it goes back to being a > > normally-overpriced parker instead of an > astronomically-overpriced parker. > > i love parker guitars and would like to own an older > one (i've heard that > > the quality went downhill after parker was sold), but > at 9K you're firmly > > planted in custom guitar price range and you can get > something WAY nicer for > > that kinda cash. > > > > - jim > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 00:38:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B40C3BE75; Wed, 13 May 2009 00:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242175088; bh=+DIFHfa1Pzra4FQFbcrAcraDXI9FUYyOdXOaIoh+7N8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NbPItUMC/cwTy3OyTswdYrBqVbexkp5rAz7o8qgyqhAfk9ScXSWrcJ9yv0cjufMZce0g7Q5nW/Xa3u+kscEhmU63PfUgDKj1bimQwu18lC4hWkLHt8hnevGqk5lHPtxuZNFtKpjJLR57CskRsIHb9mv59cXiujlOsN7GMq5Ujvk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NeuQDiYowvdMZe5KhvyTl1QC8rdGdf5RSvqZ9kr6sg+sylPqL3nEn0515Ee5kS1uarfj0zoq/IkkaNAEcROd6is1DIINls4FnAk50ZsD2Qv7/atP5y+7DZMct54b4iLalne4MiN/YP0XcBdoKSl8xYwfkhrW01nGvUrkBooLCQU=; Message-ID: <680825.16369.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:38:08 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: anybody out there? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0CF26D3C6D104FB78991492001399FF4@pcfabio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:38:10 +0000 (UTC) yes... but for some reason...=20 i am hearing it backwards oo-ohc-ohce-ohce-ohce-OHCE hello? > Hello, >=20 >=20 > i am new to this forum and wondering, if my message is > reaching you! >=20 >=20 > If yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:) >=20 >=20 > thanx, > Omid >=20 =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 01:33:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A4723BE73; Wed, 13 May 2009 01:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242178415; bh=ksZopqVp10czPiUv2QpR8zEapdJ798SEz08w/xy0Piw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lU1hx5I2Ll1U290kkFlh+aGx1Xm10633SqRN4feKA7CAjBieMTjBjJmHNv2qhe4IZmvF7IRBEu9WI1PRuADiYiUECZQ2QeTeHhxzX7oF/njxC47G9XaROu9qBkEhiiI+0xS6AonipvRh7iJ7pgoFw/9WYjJtAm5UXVDHih2L42M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B372Kjpsg87I36OpUQurXjgkCi/5xv9dSxUcHl2pJAq/MjPfVgA16e/tcaVpDF3BY9a3xirD2srEpF94WGTyYQO5kVgG1EqmHBmJUiQBs65q1kIU1VB+iHHQM/tgS1FVpnUKs5ayT0rSLugP8cPJAZ7N66pZ+zYSm6W7SUXejO0=; Message-ID: <463358.62716.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 01:33:35 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Online Looping School & More! To: joey@joeyedwin.com Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <950F7302F66E47D4A2A2B62A3F260B08@office> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 01:33:36 +0000 (UTC) to tell you the truth from my few experiences looping in the corporate worl= d they dont even care they think you are karaoking anyway;-) Luis Yes, some > corporate & > original stuff too, that's why looping is the way, > people are so intrigued > they don't necessary need "Brown Eyed Girl" > to function:) I'm looking to > implement the loop pedal at high profile gigs as a side man > for other > artists too......I'll keep you posted! >=20 > Cheers! >=20 > Best Regards, > Joey Edwin=20 > 219.613.7148 > www.joeyedwin.com >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 01:38:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA08C3BE75; Wed, 13 May 2009 01:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242178709; bh=33/wYCSEjPOt1SEaSFjEtc74YJ4r8ge3aASwDD9oqns=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cwr00yYoA2q0mm2ePqgUlfhtOqik5y0vWYgbCGrmxXE8sFplBQVXR8luvnUxDPQ6JxJIYdvH2BfoyE9VuKgskbzbJogMc9XJv6iJQgAZ1aHV06lhWiHs/QbOVJLzPEgfbfpzCCZBkV6mTQ7K55tQTIHIdGlxkoK0p0oDNv5aPRE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qUVuC4P3fA69m8iBpphW6oGPPKd9xzI3LOEIv5eByRWY8lj2O4fXo2x/p1J+sdOd4vA0U71XoRGL7AS5C7SmGu9wu6HeHtm+9DxPMrAnY1vQyf9uePIUDwPQOwWQmfkHeFtNSxFJ/ksl2EC6hYCeAV801K00UNizlovrHMBPi78=; Message-ID: <711270.44710.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 01:38:29 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905120552lb6daf0ax5313b6376758387c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7F672D.A.ukC.WSiCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 01:38:30 +0000 (UTC) you could not have put it better man! cheers Luis >Whenever I get hit by the feeling that > I'm just about to > explode I pick up an instrument and it helps me to totally > explode. > The zen techniques allow me to stay focused inside the > explosion and > expand with it, directing the power without standing in the > way. Today > I see nothing in "exploding" that contradicts > "being calm and > relaxed". >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 02:21:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B02893BE70; Wed, 13 May 2009 02:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=2aka9Bp/YmqsAEZ1US8FBfhn10mGxu1cItVihwKUQs0=; b=Ua8bfl3RbTXdD4ODtx7ONrLSCydkMBnDf9NFQ/KSu8pd0hKKcAdfn6shhMZc4OIoWy e0LsuhGaS67t78EOeYEW1i5kNQdGwXg37UiLQVonSXe6R623GeHbID/Z1DkLyGbvJjJj zXiMd8W7thf0LQeZK7eV6obHnF5ajysprRHwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fo7LyHqRejPFR0g4gUO7MS597lu7lrZfI/BrUk5WLvDwmHedAlK6ypfUDYsQ7GJ/hS MniPe2YxVYL7UUg9SdU75NSdtetc94hCbCLfpHKTXmZYMF7aeyQZxQ/w86L73AU6mhV4 ukkQkwWoJlmS9UemKaWGvCVLrybh7DniJ83jc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:21:11 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905121921x3bec1e27q51f753e588fdd8fc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Playback highlights from my May 10 uStream From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d3766178312f0469c1ddfb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 02:21:13 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d3766178312f0469c1ddfb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I sent out my archive link for my Sunday Morning at 11live series on uStream previously, air date May 10. I have since cut it to 5 individual highlights via uStream's pointers. Should you have time/interest here are the links each is 8-10 min and loops on most save one non-looped piece. This one is a bit 'metallic' in sound as my low end was distorting and not sure why other than yeah over driving but it was initially good leaving home base. I backed down my output when chat viewers relayed. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1488445/highlight/2015 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1488445/highlight/2016 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1488445/highlight/2017 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1488445/highlight/2018 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1488445/highlight/2019 uStream does seem to have a problem that I opened a support ticket with them today about, that being when I sch'd my feed as EST they reflect it PST. I know some of you out west had tried to catch me Sunday which I greatly appreciate but understandably it was a tad early. I may consider moving my time although the morning window works for me and I like the idea of a morning series but I will think about. It is quite wonderful having this new 'stage' I must say. All good things to you Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey... www.myspace.com/ctreuse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016e6d3766178312f0469c1ddfb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I sent out my archive link for my Sunday Morning at 11 live series on uStream previ= ously, air date May 10. =A0I have since cut it to 5 individual highlights v= ia uStream's pointers. =A0Should you have time/interest here are the li= nks each is 8-10 min and loops on most save one non-looped piece. =A0This o= ne is a bit 'metallic' in sound as my low end was distorting and no= t sure why other than yeah over driving but it was initially good leaving h= ome base. =A0I backed down my output when chat viewers relayed.

<= a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1488445/highlight/2016">http://www= .ustream.tv/recorded/1488445/highlight/2016
uStream does seem to have a problem that I opened a support tick= et with them today about, that being when I sch'd my feed as EST they r= eflect it PST. =A0I know some of you out west had tried to catch me Sunday = which I greatly appreciate but understandably it was a tad early. =A0I may = consider moving my time although the morning window works for me and I like= the idea of a morning series but I will think about. =A0It is quite wonder= ful having this new 'stage' I must say.

All good things to you


Jim
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--0016e6d3766178312f0469c1ddfb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 05:16:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B113C3BE71; Wed, 13 May 2009 05:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 13 May 2009 05:16:13 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:07:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:16:13 +0000 (UTC) My first choice would be Free Play -- Improvisation in Life and Art, by Stephen Nachmanovitch, a book I can open up to a random page and get inspiration. Can't get away from that Buddhist connection. -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld "Inspiration, move me brightly light the song with sense and color, hold away despair More than this I will not ask" -- Robert Hunter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 08:30:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF55A3BE71; Wed, 13 May 2009 08:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1242203425; l=2099; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=dBE85IZpRWKnVWseI63zvEPvNsM=; b=fyGhkY7hjYBkNk8iLlXuFnl+QNfJxoDvazP8WAnAsrEvjTDhjJQPa9AbJB+lgnkSS0J WJqhha0NAlhKoLn1wDIRNtOyIyufgA4s0I2hI2GnBBeDVdK5ytMKxu3hs2VCAUV5ssNw9 TzkHjH//wuRfbZlhV4uKGpWis7Hrncs82KM= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWLBOrxXsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00d001c9d3a5$795555b0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0905120552lb6daf0ax5313b6376758387c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:21:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <_30ymC.A.Q-G.jUoCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Being anry, exploding, making music. Or: Relaxed, calm, meditative. That´s all good. The important thing is the energy and that you try to focus your mind on what you´re doing. Not an easy one. But for us musicians it might be easier, as playing music can be really fascinating. Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Christo Jota wrote: > What I can recommend anyway is, that it is very helpful to be open-minded > and have a still mind if you are playing your music. There is a big > difference > if my mind is in a calm mood or if I finished my daily work and are > stressed and then playing guitar. If I惴 relaxed and really into it, playing > guitar > for me is like meditation. > Somebody should write a book - or is there already one? - "Zen and Music"... I'm finding this highly interesting because my experience is the opposite. Of course nothing is "right" or "wrong" here, I guess it's just another wonderful example of how we humans work differently. Before having experienced much zen meditation praxis I thought it should work just as you are putting it, for me. But as I started meditating on a daily basis I noticed over time that I became a less creative musician as a side effect. And I came to realize that other aspects of zen, than ze-zen (sitting, silencing mind and thoughts), were better suited for my temperament and the way my emotional/mental system works. Whenever I get hit by the feeling that I'm just about to explode I pick up an instrument and it helps me to totally explode. The zen techniques allow me to stay focused inside the explosion and expand with it, directing the power without standing in the way. Today I see nothing in "exploding" that contradicts "being calm and relaxed". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 08:57:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F4E03BE7E; Wed, 13 May 2009 08:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wPNkJxU1h6WvM4054AAZnLAqh0oiOIpZKSd8PW2Y3uU=; b=OVnsyFdiaNhbYqkSnrxYmcX7JzBPqj5CfG2eV50jQmTP1wHfhNwHxVZFljqNTIwIl+ lg5wAl2PohnC6w/M/EFyQvrP5wY8AcT0wVHBSGTO3mp5ZPwtfabu3xkvKhdEent1hSUk OACnc+09duk/hb4aYvoLb+myyb5EJZoZA3U4Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VMYzjAZpFpGBqVOXqtM4BTj/h98UDdJbw7W8PC7B5PIeWe+Jd+tiB00FKsOpiWO1Cw dTzs8AqOJO3MUseVxuDU15+ff1E+0WIswYd2E3v3hc6Rw1fYHBm0vKG0KzT/Ld3zQOkM 0i1XtHqLsgSbMUORwlABxsaodwYtVFbBhJ7SM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00d001c9d3a5$795555b0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0905120552lb6daf0ax5313b6376758387c@mail.gmail.com> <00d001c9d3a5$795555b0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:56:23 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905130156s22a5b3b2t979a69f3bcf082f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:57:15 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote= : > The important thing is the energy and that you try to > focus your mind on what you=C2=B4re doing. > Not an easy one. But for us musicians it might be easier, > as playing music can be really fascinating. So true. Sometimes it hits me that the musicians training is very similar to the warriors training. The big difference though is that musicians aim at unconditioned love while war aims at total dominance through destruction. Different goals but similar methods. Makes me think about that part in Bhagavad-Gita where Krishna tells Arjuna "it's ok to fight if you do in a spiritual mode". Boy, does that story stink! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 11:07:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B305C3BE73; Wed, 13 May 2009 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "eterogeneo" To: Subject: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:07:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0138_01C9D3CB.D0052630" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0138_01C9D3CB.D0052630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset trio. For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some pics on = my blog: http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/ fabio ------=_NextPart_000_0138_01C9D3CB.D0052630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yesterday I've seen a = beautifull=20 gig by Eivind Aarset trio.
For those who are = interested I have=20 put my impressions and some pics on my blog:
http://blog-eterogeneo.blog= spot.com/
 
fabio
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0138_01C9D3CB.D0052630-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 13:06:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C89D63BE70; Wed, 13 May 2009 13:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=L/AobrbCOAFBPZ+SCwK/d4YqWcNk5EME82QH572WMItX1vC+LdMLRQHWlTsxShsqbvyABOqxB3Wjgv61YubObTnmlXkmwteksf5pfPHevdGjuqNOXqQSELEEvs9yXCDQtCfAtPRc/LvHJCwamEf1gzso+cziIXnT8UzzW3bSXZM= ; X-YMail-OSG: qBdsNK8VM1m_k9LBYojE7UoLNQigwIHSmyf4ZtbJvFAmZJ7iCvLI4bmFechS_xHABdQ9FdjAO_MID3BN.WevywbLRhllXHz8hSImKO.PXZUC9l5vF2ETchf_RzLwgQtkuWTjycMHxsub7s7Ss9ORwHPnZciGXzF49K3IWKumIXyKuZHMsKkWcYPW93jt8xiRDCRBxWNW_V9d0i0iBbneyozGYxK5hfVmXPC5se13dC.3z.muA66EHRz6JgqDv_sLyJDlToXSE5dCWvHI9FZAbr3msshqnsAEmkySlgxPp8n1urp8hkHqFeU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--227729811 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Sonuss G2M Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:05:58 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:06:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--227729811 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey guys Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - very cool - tracking is good. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-1--227729811 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hey guys

Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to = midi convertor thing - very cool - tracking is good.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




= --Apple-Mail-1--227729811-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 13:07:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29E3B3BE81; Wed, 13 May 2009 13:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:References:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=RQfr6NtChDySYXqltD4NteTX9cRK/SDO6Xbh1c20mxKoH7xtpC04i83L5MANudBZMMBo+dqwPF+ZDGR2icKqU66DgIUSa6tSY4oWWm434o81VlbQMSYxJm/CZJwGWn95nfgURVITFeUwC8im5w+PcrB61KGej39ypOs1ycssv0k= ; X-YMail-OSG: 0nYf2C8VM1l2Y49w6A4dK84OzkD63L3nnYCaxJ8phNmjOKhiIXGhNnB0YrC7Isa.feF0brJ660J6YCYAySTpjajvf1M2ID5Jc825WtQssUZStchIW5hTemGiyTTWv9_ZcowPkM6uQHsNl9Tgqs7OmMSSBN8o4p51aBU93JIsYM.AHBL8b2.6jGZvuFhdVtj8r0oglv9LALqKHMBuCAlU.eis5xaj.qT8zb3359NLZHwJ6.WRpLNqgUtL6orFcM9rZtKVgAeX2wTlFBN6CZ4S8yTsaDP58JM1kOiJBDD1f8cNIeMgG1bbbeaWnNt2aF3H_ts8Rvr73oZVWaetjiC6s2d3pw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--227650147 References: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Fwd: Sonuss G2M Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:07:18 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:07:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--227650147 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com I am indeed an idiot Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com Begin forwarded message: > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: Matt Stevens > Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Sonuss G2M > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hey guys > > Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - > very cool - tracking is good. > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > --Apple-Mail-2--227650147 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensg= uitar.blogspot.com

I am indeed an = idiot

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




Begin forwarded = message:

Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 = BDT
Subject: Sonuss = G2M

Hey guys

Posted a quick demo for = that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - very cool - tracking is = good.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com



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= --Apple-Mail-2--227650147-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 13:17:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C678E3BE75; Wed, 13 May 2009 13:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SPp+WW3sCyB0/r9FnqY8R7x78C9541Sz3J7nOzh28n0=; b=usYI8S7o/5cSHZ8InTdusYoP/2sBnZRNuhHaVd6MQdANPPv1Qe91qXjv9mWE78suYD f0ja/XT6RVLTxK/tKZelnQgyZARwbfn8O3r2NTOaxyMsGoD4JgWpO9Fw4AtD94jMPP/c QS8O1hSlM+ljcFfj7PxpCn62gWU+BBhUxcSR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=CzOyybFdlfk1nUGIB0xyyXck3ilpjN51nMHEK3fHqFB8NqPJxAnN1TkS1NCu9TFU2d QwHZuMqDELC5GydvC3g72PuUKBixZ8Rz8zZvBGteaFBlDAf5ysvjR88SHwkScR2bdA24 P4m7FEzuxrr0kmVLRskts30qyoxl3jPBEHvyc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:17:12 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Vishwa Mohan Bhatt designed Indian slide guitar From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:17:12 +0000 (UTC) A friend in Sweden is selling one of his Indian slide guitars. Seems to be a good price: http://www.vendolin.se/annonce_detail.asp?annonceid=5637164 There are many YouTube videos of Vishwa Mohan Bhatt playing this kind of instrument. Unfortunately I don't have the dough for this beauty but maybe someone else want to go for it? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 14:40:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D854A3BE73; Wed, 13 May 2009 14:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <263d85d12f65a5d1be3995000bff81cb@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:40:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing that Fabio. I'm a big fan of Eivind and quickly buy anything I find he's played on. I sure wish some of your artists over there in Europe would visit the=20 US a little more often. He's on in particular I'd like to see and hear live. Best regards as always, Ted On May 13, 2009, at 4:07 AM, eterogeneo wrote: > Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset trio. > For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some pics=20= > on my blog: > http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/ > =A0 > fabio > =A0 > =A0 > =A0 > =A0= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 14:57:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D01113BE7F; Wed, 13 May 2009 14:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KJwpMLIVhULdZJ+0j/8NPx7mFPEuBqAvmcEsPOqfPF0=; b=p4NntnMYgzSuxqIJnJFD9cZgEc2A6TGoo6faIpi4t+n9aGH3tcDjJJA63z3HVbtLow XC6uWIU8oGbtoJgSrLDohqADkLs9Nf9z3ePgvafMggslur3TOeAEeXHP3DjdLJBIBKJH uSUg6v5qPoxeweLCVIh2UhN6AHPXPjRNny4dA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OVkoK1hlSK/e40whPwNBDYD1qe1+F6O2WFXnKH1BFMDhINgWU70RobpRt36A2OVxt/ BbgrFbnL9Pti0BPEsGcG+QLONoArdSUh0HgFX+aCgQNuJEWb4obzgxpFKb5Uag6Bkh6s eIOHqPIn5j11GVZn1SiqD27vp0B5npqnQGpBE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <104305.42120.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <104305.42120.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:57:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the amazing Adrian Parker fly From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-YsswD.A.Et.S_tCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:57:22 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:31 PM, L.Angulo wrote: >... though for that price id also buy a car first;-) > Luis I recommend the Honda Civic GX. Fill it from your home's natural gas line and forget OPEC, gas stations and you get in the HOV lane. ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 16:25:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE3DD3BE75; Wed, 13 May 2009 16:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uOqCKX79TPMNQZwUXC1+zAh93vj2+ml+jWu7s5Y0uw0=; b=YoCee6Jh6zjU2Hosk/udJTwRrG5ehWQZMqoTE4e64EaORmqty99cEdTOSxViMWcP5A EJ+6iO4hqchdqGF/9jPNpSS4vunn0GKpajHOOqWRnQkC7oOYD29Z8sRRw6k/HVIfBkL+ VNJb6j9wyJotZmIdGGGXZpa+emN4/Qdp90ML0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tIebAXjUwKnqxsOqmr59kvV7fNX0iXKwMY7wiuO7Zx4wxvNpWYtUcf4GVFb13XwD+T X2fqrpfB0MVGF7Zg9nt3NuF+UjAO6J8101GG8jts1Wm+kmzKPEpzxStowXnz/L51Tud5 4DdNRfDcjupQ8CYnjYXokZgwWoBSkN+aEFF+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:24:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:25:00 +0000 (UTC) thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks. 2009/5/13, Matt Stevens : > oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com > > I am indeed an idiot > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> From: Matt Stevens >> Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Sonuss G2M >> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Hey guys >> >> Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - >> very cool - tracking is good. >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 16:30:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4676B3BE73; Wed, 13 May 2009 16:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:30:41 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vishwa Mohan Bhatt designed Indian slide guitar References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; InfoPath.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Have you ever heard a Canadian Blues artist Harry Manx? He plays the Mohan Veena and mixes blues and Indian ragas together for an incredible sound check him out here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf7Qc9dHVFk&feature=channel_page Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca Quoting Per Boysen : > A friend in Sweden is selling one of his Indian slide guitars. Seems > to be a good price: > http://www.vendolin.se/annonce_detail.asp?annonceid=5637164 > There are many YouTube videos of Vishwa Mohan Bhatt playing this kind > of instrument. > > Unfortunately I don't have the dough for this beauty but maybe someone > else want to go for it? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 16:45:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 963A93BE71; Wed, 13 May 2009 16:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ezRyH3khg3Tytwa9Y+8OEOttjZP8MxU/9Nxh/LNQMVU=; b=R1zDGzwGuVytoLSevAnRqVOqalu7PsFa+a3fRuHYlbaaJ3JpukL0IiaUun9e1Qg3MP rJaoDCCc7RaGluDj55SATI+tcc524nNrz2cHsDHObTuBY7APXCx44by2qOOv087nj+1x qKiUEojA4t8qRfaqXqrZQz03D1X56orb7mtY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DAMWoo/IOvZ6YGtPI3zSHWMNQJX5i/AbiOIR2Fg3rj81nCJz5FM+X599uNdY9GlYx6 476FIxXBi9w2/L0Me/qMcw53ejK0Z+8PH/PpvoHBu5pI9wsdwYyaumd8rIEQ2yVJyTZy JhxEI28IhegZFiLHJaptJr2Zkzz4Bx/1MHVrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:45:15 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Vishwa Mohan Bhatt designed Indian slide guitar From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c598648d89a60469cdef18 Resent-Message-ID: <9zysm.A.sQG.ckvCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:45:16 +0000 (UTC) --001636c598648d89a60469cdef18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sidebars, love this song and good to learn of Harry. As Bill Walker will echo Martin Simpson did/does a take on this trad tune that's hair raising - Harry's is equally amazing with all the ring of this guitar would love to be around it. another sidebar I often listen to the wonderful recording of Ry Cooder & Vishwa, a Meeting by the River, for inspiration... how much is 4.7 KR in USD? j --001636c598648d89a60469cdef18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sidebars, love this song and good to learn of Harry.=A0 As Bill Walker= will echo Martin Simpson did/does a take on this trad tune that's hair= raising - Harry's is equally amazing with all the ring of this guitar = would love to be around it.
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another sidebar I often listen to the wonderful recording of Ry Cooder= & Vishwa, a Meeting by the River, for inspiration...
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--001636c598648d89a60469cdef18-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 16:58:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ED143BE84; Wed, 13 May 2009 16:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SFUDiLJKeWAnLHqzk1ywKvI5vQJo9pEycEr05TXb3T8=; b=tm1OZ5pF2tge1cGO4oZaoRa+FUJm3p6k3aIotROXzLv6OJ90iBmK2hh7fGcDFDA4kA DmuVhOuHwHMJEqduXT6FAGQsARQRZPOF5ObeS2h5INdlbnqbriQo82nguzl2FwsE1sYU U9OQ1BX+9o7VfOcXbYvJ8kah8x0AjX/QDViqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LayXIYHpZOyeCTOPHbb5colx5++wl0ZJMfAyWix2JmCh+nEvhfUhz0nHdC84oW32UZ PvZ4BKnh4lP+dSNH6MG9llakj6YCWW69ipHdl30doBuN/O5BorArww6HttR/t4PhxtBz CjaKaDyNHP5sEulkndenEC0tticeZJrFfshMU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:58:29 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4028f4f5e0c5a692 Message-ID: <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Vishwa Mohan Bhatt designed Indian slide guitar From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Looks to be about $600? It sure would be nice to have this though. Kevin > > how much is 4.7 KR in USD? > > j > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 17:13:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D0A03BE94; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 198147979/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.141.245/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.141.245 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqwCAIGcCkpPRo31/2dsb2JhbAAI0AqEAgWINQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,188,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="198147979" Message-ID: <4A0B026E.9000102@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:25:02 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Vishwa Mohan Bhatt designed Indian slide guitar References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Looks to be about $600? Yep, or about £400 GBP 440 Euros Seems very reasonable. andy butler > > It sure would be nice to have this though. > > Kevin > > >> how much is 4.7 KR in USD? >> >> j >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 17:15:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CBC43BEA2; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> From: Tom Griesgraber To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: RC-50 newbie question Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:15:15 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <2vh3DB.A.g_H.0AwCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here know if there's a way to kill the dry signal from the outputs, so that what comes out of it is only what's been recorded, and not what is being played live? If you know how to do this, you're already a step up on Roland product support ;-) Thanks for any tips! Tom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 17:20:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFCF13BE79; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <7FE8FBC6-4911-47C9-A7AA-FBCAE5BD64E3@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: looper's delight list In-reply-to: <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:20:21 -0400 References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:20:39 +0000 (UTC) You can mute the output with an A/B switchor a volume pedal while recording, then turn it on when you want to hear the loop. Or route the input signal to an output you're not using (not totally sure about that one) Teddy Kumpel http://teddyjam.com On May 13, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Tom Griesgraber wrote: > Hi folks, > > A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here > know if there's a way to kill the dry signal from the outputs, so > that what comes out of it is only what's been recorded, and not what > is being played live? If you know how to do this, you're already a > step up on Roland product support ;-) > > Thanks for any tips! > Tom > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 17:20:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B91653BEAE; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bZmgFS7zI4bQdS95JC/4Q+O4G0WwtR2JJLTdlOa3k4s=; b=vKecmwqMcgMHHdTjjk3+aCCtIrQs8PgxxU84NttQe4EzHdFYjrLpasOd4PLUsiKhP1 dPuX7osDgdwxuBWSGHoJf+NyV8ALixxnbAx/GIzaUSKmdXd6p6ubE262pggomR6fit08 n79Xr2wu2mRPUKcVwhrHQW8ZHC3CMtAiVuJuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xLLKTpX3f8SThXqfNiA7pkpFUeCmvseUtYx2ZKFV40s3ikc8hjhpQKOloraEowjYhA wcNV6onYI5xFOaaaNl/Kns7XtO2Z1xxGhy0TbCUqmxcdUVQIhq4HpMxL9dfVpwnrbl5I akqA5G9PwvUavyAX1B6HoSa+SBV45m/eqawXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:20:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno. Saved my life. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 17:24:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C4EE3BE98; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=tBKP5iK8QZRdS4OBmDVmhysWKEvDA0+L0hUW6HpklBKViypgCAau/rRaTnlIT/ElN8KGseT3wvgVYHm2BT6zm8QZPtr+9F0/OsfLr2N4lFKxtrk2V8639EAEZNWudSYW; Message-ID: <20090513122445.cmm4ov0n40s8s0ss@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:24:45 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:24:47 +0000 (UTC) I'm at the office -- so can't check this out at the moment... I've done this before -- I believe that I set the loop to play out of the Sub Output. The dry signal continued to be routed to the Main Output. -- Kevin Quoting Tom Griesgraber : > > Hi folks, > > A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here > know if there's a way to kill the dry signal from the outputs, so that > what comes out of it is only what's been recorded, and not what is > being played live? If you know how to do this, you're already a step > up on Roland product support ;-) > > Thanks for any tips! > Tom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 17:27:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0C053BEC2; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=UEmR7b8a5P3g8BWMkkGeRhPzjKcLiawXpcYwTmOoSaJVjkgV2c0Zwy91OlxbDRaZLFiEkE60xCWKro/1MG/XAZqjPumikODZlOHzjkBwTl2Q7FEvCn1heLSWDfa7bzVm; Message-ID: <20090513122757.ahkh3wacp448wskg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:27:57 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <6U2V6D.A.ts.fMwCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:27:59 +0000 (UTC) OK... found it... You can route the INPUT to the Sub out. Check page 50 of the owner's manual. Thus, you can use Main OUT for the loops only, and route your Input to the Sub out only. Hope this helps. -- Kevin Quoting Tom Griesgraber : > Hi folks, > > A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here > know if there's a way to kill the dry signal from the outputs, so that > what comes out of it is only what's been recorded, and not what is > being played live? If you know how to do this, you're already a step > up on Roland product support ;-) > > Thanks for any tips! > Tom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 17:28:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED5E63BEB6; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:28:12 UTC Message-Id: From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:21:27 -0600 References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Hello Tom, Is there a reason you don't want to use the sub outs for this? That's a big reason I bought the rc-50....the ability to send a "loop only" signal to my drummer and his in-ear monitors to lock on to. John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 17:43:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C46423BE94; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c4lC1pwkLRnLICfe+1Y/SLOuhchOvsb6syJr6+HOFAk=; b=cEQ/hPkLqMX1zCgwVablOTrIdZTc6jubDCzeVqRoFAqSQJShDefWOFYs2T8oCT8va/ 6aZgCnbYfQXCCN2/IPwxCPImzB7WsXU7ICf71fUkSKi1/fLyDuH2C8SWx7a819wVLvQa yBnau4Fg0kktux5aap5n+xqT0uizUZCx3pxHY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R1hMSzjLUsMM5zccOrjtvah0XWEe56Iv3Kv3+klzR1bpa5CqSX5U4A5nCsl59atvzv MR+HGBW9SFBfBWRH7wU4FlxBafIC0sOw+DMdmu9k7LDQdP6WQdor4W4DGpe2niGohiTf cmvPBpKshLtcOH6RMGxNKIHc15477L2oLlvvE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:42:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Seemed really good. What do you think of it? I abandoned hex pickup guitar synths many moons ago (There's actually a thing called a keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it might be nice to fool with it. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks. > > 2009/5/13, Matt Stevens : >> oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com >> >> I am indeed an idiot >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> From: Matt Stevens >>> Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: Sonuss G2M >>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> >>> Hey guys >>> >>> Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - >>> very cool - tracking is good. >>> >>> Matt Stevens >>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 18:38:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9928A3BE85; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 371 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:38:41 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PWg0l/aY/ox7pb7Nr5O0YLOfywFu8UgFZc9D2fVt+k0=; b=nYrphseWFAAlh9zgSzyHMriRh24uyuN6CVKX7MnbSnBdJczSUnZ0xSswYraqnoAN4i 9Gr9YxllFA8MGU9tT8wfg10XY2Dt/OpUmnNbjzaKI/nWIvWwgDULUEDWEX9O4L2WL7Ry WsIqEldF3AhN63NpppFHZUgcbne4h3XjG+Qkw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f0zjdA9OvK+xr+m8xFTL42hCAvtmu53KFSrw+pnfV06nCIOYu1beZ32JfpnD5Njm4P hVqgM0HTcuDnBFa23gkkM1hfyGLo3GDo/68J/+fhzl/Yt5i5eAEjaeQ3PvcUe99fc1fa zwYmXR684OXE9iIEYDH2wvMJLV2vOo/KaQE2E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:32:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Byron Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db29430d7e8a0469cf6f34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:38:41 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db29430d7e8a0469cf6f34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno Hey thanx for this. I read a little online and am rather taken with the concept of the emotional/mental manifestation of pain. Also been needing other approaches to inform my practice....only so much hanging upside down on an inversion table one can do :) just ordered it now. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno. Saved my life. > > --0016e6db29430d7e8a0469cf6f34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0016e6db29430d7e8a0469cf6f34-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 19:21:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 582703BE7C; Wed, 13 May 2009 19:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RALxTr9czamjZuBhx2Kdb5zl0ReTkqj7l5b/KgrhBYc=; b=fdMZaeLUORWG33GC8fSuQjevjKeRPJ+moBy7EWkLdEhEryVifOhn4rMIQNvSlSBQBQ 3y0X+a3T5o0t3zzBXKMeo7RfmWwUUA94GQBNcXSRkamIfYypf1mezrROJoral/RVpzyy z7YJVGbnorCKobKLKq7SHjym1WkxhgdhtAMts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=StTq5PfhTaQEhBoal2Xb6NbjQ9Mun9Hqcf32m3NSQGv34QZRXgCM7VgeOuOFL9ESuD D+U9VfXDY36/yhk022Wz330ijvxyRjXFpWtLOpOI2k0xFsszEXFvC8KHPiA7ez1DixU6 0+5YxBSBOsQ0VxrYP8GK9oSQXHBmggf7tr2XU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:21:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Great! I hope you find it helpful. I spent 4 months almost crippled (could barely turn the key in my car with my right hand or play guitar) and after seeing many doctors, therapists and chiropractors, this book fixed what none of them could. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Byron Howell wro= te: > Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno > > Hey thanx for this. I read a little online and am rather taken with the > concept of the emotional/mental manifestation of pain. Also been needing > other approaches to inform my practice....only so much hanging upside dow= n > on an inversion table one can do :) =A0just ordered it now. > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno. =A0Saved my life. >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 19:31:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D38A3BE77; Wed, 13 May 2009 19:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3FAB8844-E7AC-45FE-A3C5-7B56351234BA@aol.com> From: Tom Griesgraber To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090513122757.ahkh3wacp448wskg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:31:14 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> <20090513122757.ahkh3wacp448wskg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Kevin (and all), You guys are literally better than Roland customer support ;-) One more question if you don't mind. Is it ever possible in multi mode (having say 2 phrases playing at once) to have the phrases intentionally out of sync and "cycling" against each other? I've been messing with the "loop sync" button obviously, but it seems to do something a bit different. It seems like with loop sync on the beginning of say a short phrase 2 always lines up with the beginning of a long phrase 1. With loop sync off, I can get the short phrase 2 to start at any point along phrase 1, but then it always starts at that same point, it doesn't "cycle" even if they are unrelated lengths. Any thoughts? Thanks much! Tom On May 13, 2009, at 10:27 AM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > OK... found it... > > You can route the INPUT to the Sub out. Check page 50 of the > owner's manual. > > Thus, you can use Main OUT for the loops only, and route your Input > to the Sub out only. > > Hope this helps. > > -- Kevin > > Quoting Tom Griesgraber : > >> Hi folks, >> >> A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here >> know if there's a way to kill the dry signal from the outputs, so >> that >> what comes out of it is only what's been recorded, and not what is >> being played live? If you know how to do this, you're already a >> step >> up on Roland product support ;-) >> >> Thanks for any tips! >> Tom > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 19:43:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3A123BE7C; Wed, 13 May 2009 19:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:43:39 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Cc: Mark Sottilaro In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Mark, I'll have to check this out too. As a full-time computer jockey, part-time guitarist I frequently suffe fron= back pain of various kinds. Sometimes it's injury from something I've definitely done to myself . . . s= ometimes it's just stress. I'll have to look this up and see what it has to say. Thanks, Ted ---- Mark Sottilaro wrote:=20 > Great! I hope you find it helpful. I spent 4 months almost crippled > (could barely turn the key in my car with my right hand or play > guitar) and after seeing many doctors, therapists and chiropractors, > this book fixed what none of them could. >=20 > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Byron Howell w= rote: > > Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno > > > > Hey thanx for this. I read a little online and am rather taken with the > > concept of the emotional/mental manifestation of pain. Also been needin= g > > other approaches to inform my practice....only so much hanging upside d= own > > on an inversion table one can do :) =C2=A0just ordered it now. > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro > > wrote: > >> > >> Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno. =C2=A0Saved my life. > >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 19:43:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A52E3BE87; Wed, 13 May 2009 19:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20090513165833.207883BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: hand held battery fed reverb? Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:43:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c9d403$1f076ae0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20090513165833.207883BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> Thread-Index: AcnT7EA50kV64LOoSjqxQFaVCbVBowAFqyZA X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.166; VDF: 7.1.3.196) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:43:45 +0000 (UTC) I want a light and tiny reverb that runs on batteries. Is there anything like that out there? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 19:47:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5A473BE86; Wed, 13 May 2009 19:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20090513165833.207883BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:47:23 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c9d403$a2ec37f0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20090513165833.207883BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> Thread-Index: AcnT7EA50kV64LOoSjqxQFaVCbVBowAFqyZA X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.166; VDF: 7.1.3.196) Resent-Message-ID: <9ZZVTD.A.O0H.OPyCKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:47:26 +0000 (UTC) > I want a light and tiny reverb that runs on batteries I should specify: tiny like a box of cigarettes. Not a heavy floor unit but really light and small, something you could theoretically glue to your guitar output. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 19:47:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA7103BE8C; Wed, 13 May 2009 19:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=77tPoBaQwE6ODnzoLCN6PImufUERcX1YrV8yKvtu8n4=; b=fEU4D/mNiuHiilf1SmN6x7S3zTQJtCD0krC3ENUkR8yAlOioQ7lgUldMWFzQfnz3a9 MHrm472pEpJKy+tiks/YOLRytcFGBulre7SJ7+j5HRQL7ueLawHIq3q0tXwtljAdmen/ AZKTWZcajh7gWdo9GdxONwRl8KUBrl+NOSUmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xM7dQcHuYObcK98KJdoAgo9NaeY0DfdxV4BraOh3wnpY4E5iAMAliMnCiLelPWCiTc aJXnbT2asrcgAQINFLfq5VIVflDC0ePGhLxVLD7YJq2LzIDqQDr16QmHAnPAty7Swxww DlBnlCpvGDjr7osPgxcXxL+nG9PNzfP22rzko= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:47:49 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905131247y2d045535q2b76b8fb1d2e8c36@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New review of "kybermusik: Quelques Papiers D'Abord" album at jamendo From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Some of you have already listened to (and commented) on my album "kybermusik: Quelques Papiers D'Abord" of realtime internet collaborations, and some actually played on it (thanks again), so this may be of interest to some: A new enthused review has been posted on the website of jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/7494/review_detail?mailhash=f3a1b176fe1fce97a079e1189dffdd92&review_id=153962 Let me just cite a few passages: "I love it immensely, a kind of fragmented jazz feel, with wonderful instrumentation. And, I'm still on the first track of listening and getting with the program." (this goes to Brian Good on soprano sax sitting in virtually on Below this Sneppah) "Advantages in Freeform Breeding is simply fantastic, as far as being an array of sound and rhythm combined so artfully well and thoroughly distinctive from the crowd indeed." (the other players being and Krispen Hartung (guitar) and Rick Walker (meters which noone understood at first) here) "Superb is not a big enough word to cover these bases of musical creativity. Truly wonderful. I am staggered by the physical effect this is having on me, as with other music, in its own way, but this needs to be said particularly in this case." (Krispen Hartung again, attacking my Drum'n'Bass grooves and porn flick samples with ring modulator guitar) "This kind of music answers your questions before they have even formed in your consciousness, be that what it may. [..] Inspirational, moving, touching." (The Milkey Way: Yivli Minare - featuring Charlie Milkey) "There is still the fine sense of accomplishment, but there also seems to be a bit of the tongue-in-cheek element to it, which if so, just makes it all the more endearing as an exemplary array of truly avant garde musical creativity." (Virtual Baggy Pants - featuring Os and Daryl Shawn). I stop being proud already - thanks again to all the participants on that one! Here's the listen/download link to the album again: http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/7494 Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 19:50:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E0D93BE90; Wed, 13 May 2009 19:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 794 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 13 May 2009 19:50:15 UTC Message-ID: <4A0B2154.9040206@unguitar.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:36:52 +0200 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [Probabile Spam] Eivind Aarset gig in Rome References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Eivind is a great musician indeed and a humble and lovely human. Wish there were more like him. I suggest anyone who has the chance to see him live to invest that money and time to meet him and his music. Luca eterogeneo ha scritto: > Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset trio. > For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some pics > on my blog: > http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/ > > fabio > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 07:04:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 20:44:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E24C3BE71; Wed, 13 May 2009 20:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OAopXMF3zMZlAVcyGraWQNtKOB6mIciBFfoKzaT6IDw=; b=EE4xJ7Ws/ZCVtKqj2GG5grwyg60t+81XbYt3ty+ekr3HH/KOqHFZ3zLXeHdR0mq2tm 5c2qklPcnd51AnIZMPXev/m6FKzaajnAQfsDJTdVLKBbXuQufx1DzGEP7UG85PZXLzEY 1g8jl1vTsxWaTOYSiJ70cfc9WMa4wwvsgWM/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=u2TQevCHH3DLnCjoOlbGDvOYcBKKIwaRfy5JJLgSM7h1bTffoYSdjK1nNBRywMQJqV Ju5DynpgvP5QnXWaGytm5L/dnkw8RUHoMnsmu8sBsTLbxgLDiC1HcGzMfS8HYHAb3N9J 8I6uPhGQIu5lp7s3ELXXh9h5ZJ4DMu42dFJuw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:44:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Byron Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db29439f96290469d1455a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:44:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db29439f96290469d1455a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow brother. this is the first ive heard of the power of words to heal what touch techniques cannot. I am intrigued. Looking forward to the read. thankyou Byron On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Great! I hope you find it helpful. I spent 4 months almost crippled > (could barely turn the key in my car with my right hand or play > guitar) and after seeing many doctors, therapists and chiropractors, > this book fixed what none of them could. > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Byron Howell > wrote: > > Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno > > > > Hey thanx for this. I read a little online and am rather taken with the > > concept of the emotional/mental manifestation of pain. Also been needing > > other approaches to inform my practice....only so much hanging upside > down > > on an inversion table one can do :) just ordered it now. > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro > > wrote: > >> > >> Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno. Saved my life. > >> > > > > > > --0016e6db29439f96290469d1455a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow brother. this is the first ive heard of the power of words to heal what= touch techniques cannot. I am intrigued. Looking forward to the read. than= kyou

Byron=A0

On Wed, = May 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
Great! =A0I hope you find it helpful. =A0I = spent 4 months almost crippled
(could barely turn the key in my car with my right hand or play
guitar) and after seeing many doctors, therapists and chiropractors,
this book fixed what none of them could.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Byron Howell <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote:
> Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno
>
> Hey thanx for this. I read a little online and am rather taken with th= e
> concept of the emotional/mental manifestation of pain. Also been needi= ng
> other approaches to inform my practice....only so much hanging upside = down
> on an inversion table one can do :) =A0just ordered it now.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno. =A0Saved my life.
>>
>
>


--0016e6db29439f96290469d1455a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 20:47:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 803793BE84; Wed, 13 May 2009 20:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Hardware Lawn Sale Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:41:09 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, folks Cleaning house, time to find new homes for a lot of no longer used but still works fine stuff. Have all manuals (if pert.), but probably not original packaging. All used only in no-smoking home studio; No reasonable offers refused; need to clear out ASAP, Paypal, buyer pays shipping: Mackie 1604 VLZ Mixer Presonus Firebox Audio interface w/ 2 6-ft Monster Studiolink 500 XLR cables Boss DD-20 GigaDelay Third-Hand pedal (for turning knobs on stomp boxes with your foot) Edirol UM550 MIDI Interface Roland FC-200 MIDI pedal Behringer Ultramizer Pro Limiter (goes in front of:) Sony CDRW33 Pro CD Recorder w/ wired remote Aphex 105 4-Channel Gate Vox Tonelab tabletop preamp/modeller/FX Line6 PodXT preamp/modeller/FX Yamaha DG-Stomp preamp/modeller/FX Alesis ModFX: Ampliton, SmashUp, Faze w/ adapters 2 Ernie Ball Stereo Volume pedals: 1 25K ohm, 1 volume/pan Thanks! dpc 1096 Winchuck River Road Brookings, OR 97415 541-728-0634 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 20:51:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B7FD3BE88; Wed, 13 May 2009 20:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ap5ZrrSmrjUlQBEQElavm8yUs0gceJ5vjGQpfpV9zVQ=; b=A8OmjJCwP+fP0kOAVbK1JbitFVNSGC3fX+4+eM0gmLf82KsKEmi0japd50mDifdK3T g4tCMp54I5KqGQ2z2ZHQy/66luSxJFfleGY6gGGEigBdJUk99BrNhnj4XMxdcpUius8Y fh5+xPF0OClCzGn1AlmIsTeU6ihwd1Jd6P5ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f1dd12Pq//8Shx1y7ufui7PS6xYQhS3XEd05t7UFPb035J/bTweeMIA0ihwuQft4gE 0cVU3MACoRn/CkCYKaZDbI3CR4pW07uollHvGRsP4pTWo2Z9T6aqUAwzwjpWcMekYIq1 iJ+q/TFRSYkciYR83El42xucrOU++5WnjHOXs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:51:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:51:22 +0000 (UTC) "The mind makes it real." - Morpheus, from The Matrix On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Byron Howell wrot= e: > wow brother. this is the first ive heard of the power of words to heal wh= at > touch techniques cannot. I am intrigued. Looking forward to the read. > thankyou > Byron > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> Great! =A0I hope you find it helpful. =A0I spent 4 months almost cripple= d >> (could barely turn the key in my car with my right hand or play >> guitar) and after seeing many doctors, therapists and chiropractors, >> this book fixed what none of them could. >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Byron Howell >> wrote: >> > Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno >> > >> > Hey thanx for this. I read a little online and am rather taken with th= e >> > concept of the emotional/mental manifestation of pain. Also been needi= ng >> > other approaches to inform my practice....only so much hanging upside >> > down >> > on an inversion table one can do :) =A0just ordered it now. >> > >> > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Healing Back Pain, by Dr. John Sarno. =A0Saved my life. >> >> >> > >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 21:05:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36BBC3BE7C; Wed, 13 May 2009 21:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1437 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 13 May 2009 21:05:12 UTC Message-Id: <85957161-EA5A-4753-AD10-A40A8EE97EE7@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Selling_a_custom_Timtone_RMC-equiped_VG-driving?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?_axe=85?= Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:05:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Hey, folks Also have an old V-shaped wood-body/graphite neck Steinberger w/ TransTrem. Never sold a guitar online before; anybody got the lowdown on best places to post hi-end guitars for sale, and best ways to verify/establish prices? Appreciate any tips; thanks! dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 21:46:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 062203BE78; Wed, 13 May 2009 21:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4EQNSDxstgxrEq0bKYsCjDzkjCltnx799QgGpzgxqxdWmqYXYyW8OthBTyVejRdjEXU6/vPgrkG9W762FPF4j4Gkn8nsncmv8tG7h5i2KN4BNollBmUtcCOt+iLOVijphMh3CkYl9mNrnQVnzjjiv3oPmiq90/zm4gZS3r5JYQs= ; X-YMail-OSG: xPUpeJoVM1khIqZY.4V723_zUHg9RZ3KHwiaG4QmzzCBXjrN039_uZ7eqvrvRBbQ5FDoCAXTnsZ34IM6Hew1npQPmEwFBKzzBRYuszo2hx4Bx7yu_WicWyOUkgH36ixCXxIk37lhBC32pJpSYdUiYcxlLMqdoaUIeypR.b89.7W.LJ_RKhU3xBf38yHcvhWVk5GxibAlUq4YEwUaT.az9ZmKSsmoljR7P8YnzFbZqu04Qxdg93avRjFICr.yIdHDb0Yjp4P8GmlHCuUGc3OsGoN3tMY_FNyXfllY6OntvPJBHKg5EZPPdwyWOj3n4kvKCNmsYqdO4JRyRJUX X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9598C61447BD49AE97EE03FEB040C44A@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <20090513165833.207883BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> <000501c9d403$a2ec37f0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:46:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, http://store.guitarfetish.com/modboards.html - It might be worth contacting the people behind this site. Best, Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? >> I want a light and tiny reverb that runs on batteries > > I should specify: tiny like a box of cigarettes. Not a heavy floor unit > but > really light and small, something you could theoretically glue to your > guitar output. > > -Michael > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 07:04:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 21:46:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CC753BE86; Wed, 13 May 2009 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A0B3FBE.2060009@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:46:38 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #631 for May 7, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090507.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #631 May 7, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight was Return To the Origin on Groove Records and Quantum Records. Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#may PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) VA [Ruud Heij] Winter Sky Awkenings 2008 Volume 2 (Ambientlive) Lemonchill Reflections Sentant (Ricochet Dream) Ideation Cherrie Pie Adrift (Ricochet Dream) Ideation Zeitgeist Adrift (Ricochet Dream) Mac Mavis Waving Back Report from the Lake (Faria) Mac Mavis Wild Winds, Tender Report from the Lake (Faria) Tides Steve Roach Nature of Things Dynamic Stillness (Projekt) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Gert Emmens and Vortex Return To the Origin (Groove Ruud Heij and Quantum) Emmens and Heij Return To the Origin RtTO (Groove and Quantum) Emmens and Heij Solaris RtTO (Groove and Quantum) Emmens and Heij Life In Motion RtTO (Groove and Quantum) Emmens and Heij So Long RtTO (Groove and Quantum) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Blind Watchers of a Vanishing Night on EH Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 22:23:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 722E83BE80; Wed, 13 May 2009 22:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zsTb3oI6LLWcJolgBLT9PVqT9Pjn7GeKh0KvB7G/DTQ=; b=tZetEMswO8c0HO21utrqn4wHrVvn+8VIN27tYOjoGHCtGA1j5pLWptYZSwWQLHt/Qm PDa4TV1abER0sIMrO0N7mWvW2yeJh1ml3xH4Y0dx5P4uzojW7y5N9DdBzflWu1K0t0Hy 9rMGTgxNTczXwUYScG0kD4h8q/earyAHDaXok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ei551SGYFOQTCj9QVeMpoyWnWz45E345zuvYq7jPzJkS+05J0AZZELAQRfqK+62xPD 3T+EZPSgT4nJKhO26IzeisDazq+dYt9QEKuWG0ovLvP0p+lY5pS9PEhu6nqiFubF/73h BWIEANGAJYbd/8MkUHa9YVdOhlUCCn2l41hoc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85957161-EA5A-4753-AD10-A40A8EE97EE7@earthlink.net> References: <85957161-EA5A-4753-AD10-A40A8EE97EE7@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:23:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_Selling_a_custom_Timtone_RMC=2Dequiped_VG=2Ddriving_?= =?windows-1252?Q?axe=85?= From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:23:11 +0000 (UTC) You can go on Ebay, create an account and then do a search for the same guitar model. Then click "completed auctions" and you'll get only the ones that have recently sold. This can sometimes be a good way of figuring out worth. http://cgi.ebay.com/SWEET-100-ORIGINAL-NEWBURGH-STEINBERGER-GP2S-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ280333678546QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item41453077d2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A13|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:05 PM, David Coffin wrote: > Hey, folks > > Also have an old V-shaped wood-body/graphite neck Steinberger w/ > TransTrem. Never sold a guitar online before; anybody got the lowdown > on best places to post hi-end guitars for sale, and best ways to > verify/establish prices? > > Appreciate any tips; thanks! > > dpc > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 22:25:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4395E3BE7E; Wed, 13 May 2009 22:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gfnxHv5fxN3UhFHEZbz0Be1fLxIWJFtzOZbpJDiBiMs=; b=qpoSf2OIq8DDex2gzr9NJQIRJrLQKX3memjJ4fEITRoS9T5PiRAjnIxR+lsBGtSoGn Ug3QNRUsutR96MmTPDfJOOk75T258Ek0knwrFTIi3z8rNbw34kkJf4qSjmMBZtqTWJNq CiWRdMiAVUgKUhEryi2+B0qqMVf0LSvBZrr/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZxdiA7OOo4ZZEZ6iUO35Ucv3Za8vXO2fFcD8r1SDJ2xQu0i6+b6ShZSlLgCTYp6OsH bEcTy6t/TpyN+4NbvMqdaicxk7L99SSipO4eIPfB0TnO+8wL3zTrc7eVyPuCb9/EQg1R pjn8kDhsYrJVk/ozpTtEOOLBD6hKyEe4pM0Gw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9598C61447BD49AE97EE03FEB040C44A@a> References: <20090513165833.207883BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> <000501c9d403$a2ec37f0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <9598C61447BD49AE97EE03FEB040C44A@a> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:25:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:25:46 +0000 (UTC) http://www.zzounds.com/item--LINPOCKETPOD On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Hi Michael, > > http://store.guitarfetish.com/modboards.html - It might be worth contacting > the people behind this site. > > Best, > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? > > >>> I want a light and tiny reverb that runs on batteries >> >> I should specify: tiny like a box of cigarettes. Not a heavy floor unit >> but >> really light and small, something you could theoretically glue to your >> guitar output. >> >> -Michael >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 > 07:04:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 22:33:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFA393BE82; Wed, 13 May 2009 22:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <04494474-3419-471D-AC6C-C167C075F535@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Selling_a_custom_Timtone_RMC-equiped_VG-dri?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ving_axe=85?= Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:33:11 -0700 References: <85957161-EA5A-4753-AD10-A40A8EE97EE7@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <7DOseC.A.f5G.pq0CKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Perfect; same guitar except mine's red and with a TransTrem; thanks, Mark! dpc On May 13, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > You can go on Ebay, create an account and then do a search for the > same guitar model. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 23:07:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF7C33BE77; Wed, 13 May 2009 23:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N5HnM0x4J6UWV4XTgC3UVaAFCvqhjQ6GZ+xeuR62IVw=; b=JN6TOgENNU0VoGEciCQvoyWLfB4Q4wdH73l9yxQd5pcQUp8DUwtKZa4XAn3i2tyO2v 5vEeoNF5eZ3aOuzZ4hhIWcJF/t5zE0CgP3BK2LuVUhNXFYINSPWb1lf6Hw4IgT2j3VFv jhewvIpnCGHKSFOjJa9yV9AN31NftVxRAd3Ro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iUV7PoZQYblAQVymE+5Jt3ylXL5IGyTZfkXoIFm3a5tKMj/voxDuvYziaKlCSu9dKF 0Bd1t+4EVD1Kv97lCvdFqwLi2+N4P7SFolJ6vfb2xJXCkezCfj5tj+r6aCDQZiHale8y 9KIAihx4ZQBeUmAVEkpZtkEquJ6nvwngdNFpA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <04494474-3419-471D-AC6C-C167C075F535@earthlink.net> References: <85957161-EA5A-4753-AD10-A40A8EE97EE7@earthlink.net> <04494474-3419-471D-AC6C-C167C075F535@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:07:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_Selling_a_custom_Timtone_RMC=2Dequiped_VG=2Ddriving_?= =?windows-1252?Q?axe=85?= From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5KV3cB.A.cxH.eK1CKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 23:07:10 +0000 (UTC) No problem. I've got a similar guitar, but if I didn't I'd try to buy yours. I still haven't found one I like as much or more. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:33 PM, David Coffin wrote: > Perfect; same guitar except mine's red and with a TransTrem; thanks, Mark! > dpc > > > On May 13, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> You can go on Ebay, create an account and then do a search for the >> same guitar model. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 13 23:57:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B6A33BE82; Wed, 13 May 2009 23:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 16917 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 13 May 2009 23:57:09 UTC From: "Steve Schneider" To: Subject: GNX4 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:57:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D3EB.DE2C72C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnUJeXs7d9pN1FuTLSjIqa7XrkD0Q== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 23:57:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D3EB.DE2C72C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a GNX4 and have fixed the hesitation problem so many have written about. Can't seem to see my posts online. Could someone e mail me and let me know if this is getting somewhere? Steve s ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D3EB.DE2C72C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a GNX4 and have fixed the hesitation problem = so many have written about.  Can’t seem to see my posts online.  = Could someone e mail me and let me

know if this is getting somewhere?    = Steve s

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D3EB.DE2C72C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 00:05:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72BAD3BE87; Thu, 14 May 2009 00:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=93tnNnITmO2u3sO32VduO3YvMiZ5MwY9HT8et4x7Rbo=; b=ge+4QrG6pKjYGqicsyl/tNzQtDOWfR8lA/NK05k1lh294pKftianNsrRQ6kyVOYR6i Y3AeNxVA5LpDb2eL44UWghDWOO1CcfFU0BrhGdeq6X6BuBeqhUVOgX3vU25QTL9Wnzia RPhh/6R99W7tUiaBvL1eAJ55Cl+pJl6hCJQBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tGSYJtLqd0swpCuEY+5TnZsz2XHo/kFVEAkoC4i86bbhcXklIljwFiS2f8YLNMimjm qtP84mD7HJ5OoMKhpIHS4CfktwJ03sIksjPSrTOukDdJhMGVL5nQOX30W4B17x17E9+P 5gMDsHB5DcWA2q7VE2KcqVZotqmNACiJAG5Ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:05:46 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905131705qb920ae3lefde0efb724e561f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GNX4 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: sschne@san.rr.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a7360453b90469d4173f Resent-Message-ID: <6XKgDD.A.nGB.cB2CKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:05:48 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a7360453b90469d4173f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve you're getting in, you may have your options set to not see your post= s till someone responds. Jim On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Steve Schneider wrote: > I have a GNX4 and have fixed the hesitation problem so many have written > about. Can=92t seem to see my posts online. Could someone e mail me and= let > me > > know if this is getting somewhere? Steve s > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a7360453b90469d4173f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve you're getting in, you may have your options set to not see = your posts till someone responds.
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Jim

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Steve Schneider= <sschne@san.rr.c= om> wrote:

I have a GNX4 and have fixed the hesitation problem so many hav= e written about.=A0 Can=92t seem to see my posts online.=A0 Could someone e= mail me and let me

know if this is getting somewhere?=A0=A0=A0 Steve s




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www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

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--001636c5a7360453b90469d4173f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 00:14:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C5463BE88; Thu, 14 May 2009 00:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090513201426.TC7WS.2656859.root@mp06> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:14:26 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware Lawn Sale Cc: David Coffin In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:14:27 +0000 (UTC) David, Hmmmm . . . You don't particularly have anything that's especially on my "wish list" there . . . but I'm tempted to come to your "garage sale" just to meet you (the VG master) in-person finally anyway (LOL). It'd be worth a drive to the coast just for that. However my wife tells me my "honey do" list has grown the last few weeks while I've been sick. Oh well. Godd luck with the sale! Ted ---- David Coffin wrote: > Greetings, folks > > Cleaning house, time to find new homes for a lot of no longer used but > still works fine stuff. Have all manuals (if pert.), but probably not > original packaging. All used only in no-smoking home studio; No > reasonable offers refused; need to clear out ASAP, Paypal, buyer pays > shipping: > > Mackie 1604 VLZ Mixer > Presonus Firebox Audio interface w/ 2 6-ft Monster Studiolink 500 XLR > cables > Boss DD-20 GigaDelay > Third-Hand pedal (for turning knobs on stomp boxes with your foot) > Edirol UM550 MIDI Interface > Roland FC-200 MIDI pedal > Behringer Ultramizer Pro Limiter (goes in front of:) > Sony CDRW33 Pro CD Recorder w/ wired remote > Aphex 105 4-Channel Gate > Vox Tonelab tabletop preamp/modeller/FX > Line6 PodXT preamp/modeller/FX > Yamaha DG-Stomp preamp/modeller/FX > Alesis ModFX: Ampliton, SmashUp, Faze w/ adapters > 2 Ernie Ball Stereo Volume pedals: 1 25K ohm, 1 volume/pan > > > Thanks! > dpc > 1096 Winchuck River Road > Brookings, OR 97415 > 541-728-0634 > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 00:29:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92E3C3BE80; Thu, 14 May 2009 00:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RnBT85N5O4jF3MBtUlhgWonQygFpZEr/bicDBQy3INs=; b=CAeGktFj57xxCkEeIRiMVycobOACOkbCSoxO8YS/2tJ1CHgkdebpyuHqaAel4rXjcR JFt+KOD/+/CZeMJnWG0wx6hkMx8adPGTYWQJcnVN44BE9QwTGrvnNFuwJi6/hiX/8r2r ok/3S7mgMP8xe3PE7HCkWOTtVOYJ2pwdLckkw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SZ0KHEWtcpWXsUbpvw7nUXUXE/U7L3XlCpkEvjMt6DcJ2kqn9iFNZtp89e4DYlqP4b FOEWYMVywhm5iwM4YUXjKvMyppIIZw//lGhINjApCKNff+YJ1bfeSKZfgnlP1BASBoV9 pDGDCf8/uYNIEtf7xswGfwxVdk/siJ5cp3HRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905101613g149d43cfq690599862e48355c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:29:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c4e6a123fed0a0cf Message-ID: <101191640905131729s387df53cka0155022717a4297@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_=93First_Meeting=94_trio_concert_downloads?= From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f3678107be0469d46d20 Resent-Message-ID: <5g0jHB.A._nB.GY2CKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:29:58 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f3678107be0469d46d20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terrific stuff, Per. Really exciting and beautiful. --00163630f3678107be0469d46d20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terrific stuff, Per. Really exciting and beautiful.
--00163630f3678107be0469d46d20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 00:37:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D97FB3BE81; Thu, 14 May 2009 00:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qw0aG/nYTavsCVD2DSQL/nDGk4zdRK7/KWtqtlKberw=; b=Lc55us45qTSOYbs0hw4dkbSRhyfj15B/ygJ/UJuSFrfYTO8qGDVWiVWx3dj58bmHMh gxfq/dxZv1UomuN8fsAdh0v0GVaBG6wUq43pkdlq4LOKpvx+tHSuHma+loOiPT4c8TxS MsCqr+jURy9bIYpiQpPY1h/aTA/Uwi7ijJc6U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PjC4sKzcZxiY9/UCYjLvxVWganNEABJaTpMx1bQiSDn2nrQcEh+WL33o9PvnI8NtCJ Yr0cU3S7YQORJ9HVLxifGx3NHIBrOjn7MQOQNPArJ+4SfxxaMTfnW9vp5R/xVgFm57v3 hKEvMcV2YPvY/jSOJQ5ISmaEkzN6bI6ByxU5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090513165833.207883BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> <000501c9d403$a2ec37f0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <9598C61447BD49AE97EE03FEB040C44A@a> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 02:37:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:37:38 +0000 (UTC) ... maybe the pandoras by korg (?) 2009/5/14, Mark Sottilaro : > http://www.zzounds.com/item--LINPOCKETPOD > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: >> Hi Michael, >> >> http://store.guitarfetish.com/modboards.html - It might be worth >> contacting >> the people behind this site. >> >> Best, >> Ricky >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:47 PM >> Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? >> >> >>>> I want a light and tiny reverb that runs on batteries >>> >>> I should specify: tiny like a box of cigarettes. Not a heavy floor unit >>> but >>> really light and small, something you could theoretically glue to your >>> guitar output. >>> >>> -Michael >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 >> 07:04:00 >> >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From member@eBay.co.uk Thu May 14 01:20:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6989 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 14 May 2009 01:20:40 UTC Received: from cernauske.com (mail.cernauske.com [99.149.38.76]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012B23BE72; Thu, 14 May 2009 01:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([99.132.107.22] RDNS failed) by cernauske.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 13 May 2009 16:06:42 -0500 From: "eBay member: jprnds84" Subject: eBay Item.I want to purchase it Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:06:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2009 21:06:42.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7786080:01C9D40E] To: undisclosed-recipients:;

Hello,

I was looking to know if the item has any prior damage? Really interested in buying although wondering why is the same item listed twice under 2 different prices: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/W0QQitemZ2702399681256QQihZ017QQc.htm%3c/A> . Check it out and let me know. Still very interested.

 
Thanks
 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 03:12:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F8603BE77; Thu, 14 May 2009 03:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes References: <20090513165833.207883BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> <000501c9d403$a2ec37f0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <9598C61447BD49AE97EE03FEB040C44A@a> Message-id: <73601544-C9C1-4D63-AF75-0B2D2AD10912@mac.com> From: Andy Schoen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:12:50 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 03:12:53 +0000 (UTC) I agree about the Pandora suggestion. Get the P3 (the third model), it's the best one! It works great! To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! On May 13, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... maybe the pandoras by korg (?) > > 2009/5/14, Mark Sottilaro : >> http://www.zzounds.com/item--LINPOCKETPOD >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Ricky Graham >> wrote: >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> http://store.guitarfetish.com/modboards.html - It might be worth >>> contacting >>> the people behind this site. >>> >>> Best, >>> Ricky >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: hand held battery fed reverb? >>> >>> >>>>> I want a light and tiny reverb that runs on batteries >>>> >>>> I should specify: tiny like a box of cigarettes. Not a heavy >>>> floor unit >>>> but >>>> really light and small, something you could theoretically glue to >>>> your >>>> guitar output. >>>> >>>> -Michael >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: >>> 05/13/09 >>> 07:04:00 >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 03:37:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 700D73BE75; Thu, 14 May 2009 03:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=u/fhr2eQb47k/DpyMpU15B+IdekOkTa1X6cf+FqZmXI=; b=rev4HI6lu4TJEk7V3qpRWop6dZxRwOuHlVYHvjT0Vb17Pozvt0CHzoSnmbAg1OOEVT OfkQCMur46wAX7RT4+J3JA8NgE3PEANrttQudWOfcQH/EPDHlxngdZFV09qo92Ws9m1l D/GSlg+coGaA78+HxAhdwRkz0sQnL2L9RWkYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=AQhepOLqf6ViwxUJFLMCuSTTBIoRspkRyHRQQ22f4DToPq8XDWIZcEmCFdZx3k6Fet 3BBO5n52g5nGbBtdAyk656038oqouWT/8PLmJK4LKhZ9HdU26IfDsPgFXCO4lsdece7r wsu5/s3lScHzMAdpsy9TV5gHqcA33gFYmR3Lw= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A0B2154.9040206@unguitar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:37:36 -0300 References: <4A0B2154.9040206@unguitar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 03:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Fabio, will you post the gear photos in a bigger resolution? i cant really guess what he's using there (really intrigued here). or could you tell us something about the gear he was using? did you get to talk to him about it? big fan of eivind. thank you very much. >> Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset trio. >> For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some >> pics on my blog: >> http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/ >> fabio >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: >> 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 07:04:00 >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 04:15:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 556373BE75; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 358 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:15:29 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z+Dz2f/Foz3CySnhlxzlAohrgyPspCnpLv+KurHbOPk=; b=Wg6OPK7ANdy1lMfO1g9y5peNN3/5BVD8BFNT5LEPaS4okhrxu9O0xvPY5JOd0yFxum BjoQtxaXCXdsGj3EXris+fXznHEXPsSFTXRT3YkSzLNNC/PPA7GiSzU0trWcMCVgRl+2 lRBqlpIcX+Lo3Z+5ep973Dy7mQy6OQzA3WMdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hn5fq20aN2y1yF32o+sO2ce3657LdaO4ftZlLFWZXQMoGS7STD3VmwANrg8ELqXIFq cK7fXHMa/hhekMF069H+gKIULPBQB3BuDuFr0ReGo0i3QDiHiIYxl2eqo28tzStuwqaE B5dZiZGMF++6p1gGSMEte+cI/c3QNNdHLd9II= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A0B2154.9040206@unguitar.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:09:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ef53ca3557a0469d77e32 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 04:15:30 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ef53ca3557a0469d77e32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out: http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00015.jpg http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg Anyone know what kind of guitar he plays? And any mods on it. Jeff "It never hurts to help!" _ Eek the Cat http://jeffduke.org On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > Fabio, > > will you post the gear photos in a bigger resolution? i cant really guess > what he's using there (really intrigued here). or could you tell us > something about the gear he was using? did you get to talk to him about it? > > big fan of eivind. > > thank you very much. > > > Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset trio. >>> For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some pics on >>> my blog: >>> http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/ >>> fabio >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: >>> 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 07:04:00 >>> >>> >>> >> > --0016364ef53ca3557a0469d77e32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out:

http://thisphase.org/pics/= DSC00015.jpg

= http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg

Anyone know what kind of guitar he plays? And any mods on it.

Je= ff

"It never hurts to help!"
_ Eek the Cat

http://jeffduke.org


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Ariel Rzezak <= span dir=3D"ltr"><arzezak@gmail.com= > wrote:
Fabio,

will you post the = gear photos in a bigger resolution? i cant really guess what he's using= there (really intrigued here). or could you tell us something about the ge= ar he was using? did you get to talk to him about it?

big fan of eivind.

thank you very much.=20


Yesterday I've seen a beauti= full gig by Eivind Aarset trio.
For those who are interested I have put = my impressions and some pics on my blog:
http://b= log-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/
fabio
=A0 --------------------------= ----------------------------------------------


No virus found in= this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.= com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 0= 5/13/09 07:04:00




<= /blockquote>

--0016364ef53ca3557a0469d77e32-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 04:17:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8278F3BE72; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Steve Schneider" To: Subject: GNX-4 Looping Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:15:20 -0700 Message-ID: <88A4463747FA491093EB53071414DC08@supercomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D3C4.7CDE1630" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnT/yiCcvQXxn3rSSCHXwjpZhR20A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 04:17:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D3C4.7CDE1630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had a GNX4 for quite a while and I am trying to get into looping = for lack of a bass player. First off, the loops will have a gap if you do = not download the new operating system for the thing (version 1.3). Instructions for = how to do this are on the Digitech website. One of the patches in the new operating system fixes the hesitation (gap) that is a problem with the stock unit. I am going to try to use the GNX4 for looping so I can jam with just me and a drummer, I am not real good at it yet just beginning. I notice a lot of folks = think the GNX4 is no good for looping but I don't see any mention of the new operating system that you can download from the internet. It updates through the USB = connection of the unit. As soon as I updated the hesitation was gone. I don=12t = know if this thing will work as a looper for me, I may have to go with a separate dedicated unit to get what I want. I do think that the click tracks are death if you don=12t want to play in 4/4 time all the time so I always turn the click off. I like more jazzy odd timing stuff. I wonder why you guys don=12t seem to = have a review of the GNX4s looping abilities on your website? You could use what I just = wrote as a review if you wish, though I would like to read a review from someone = who has taken=20 it further and is more experienced with looping with this unit. I = bought the extra footswitch that records, erases and lays up to 8 tracks with practically infinite length. Steve S =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D3C4.7CDE1630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have had a GNX4 for quite a while and I am trying = to get into looping for lack of a bass player.  First off, the loops will have a gap if you do not = download
the new operating system for the thing (version = 1.3).  Instructions for how to do this are on the Digitech website.  One = of the patches in the new operating system
fixes the hesitation (gap) that is a problem with the stock unit.  = I am going to try to use the GNX4 for looping so I can jam with just me and a drummer,
I am not real good at it yet just beginning.  I notice a lot of = folks think the GNX4 is no good for looping but I don’t see any mention = of the new operating system that
you can download from the internet.  It updates through the USB = connection of the unit.  As soon as I updated the hesitation was gone.  I don=12t know if this
thing will work as a looper for me, I may have to go with a separate = dedicated unit to get what I want.  I do think that the click tracks are = death if you don=12t
want to play in 4/4 time all the time so I always turn the click = off.  I like more jazzy odd timing stuff.  I wonder why you guys don=12t = seem to have a review of the
GNX4s looping abilities on your website?  You could use what I just = wrote as a review if you wish, though I would like to read a review from = someone who has taken
it further and is more experienced with looping with this unit.  I = bought the extra footswitch that records, erases and lays up to 8 tracks with practically infinite
length.       Steve = S

 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D3C4.7CDE1630-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 04:26:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63F3D3BE72; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1242275197; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=0X5D2Het9OojrlAxtQ3D3aG/BBU=; b=T4b7R5OVOtzwEntBXPZF0w7l/A6Aqjf0JmcdFNdmuWw6Bo72VJExHGh0mcYGs1kK KcBP/fHk5vLuOg2FjN7UIocjnEsk4EWSNSIwngBR1kfQ28Cq3iGxxQmkbFjf6TME; X-BINDING: X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=HXb_qeo4AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=uy3JSVnQG-fUCVnE6R4A:9 a=xzxxDBTQ-2F8JTL7j20A:7 a=cIY5ofljGydwvSQZ9117-9j4pvYA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <003501c9d44c$2b6b11d0$c0963547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4A0B2154.9040206@unguitar.com> Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:26:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 04:26:38 +0000 (UTC) I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out: http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00015.jpg http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg Anyone know what kind of guitar he plays? And any mods on it. Jeff "It never hurts to help!" _ Eek the Cat http://jeffduke.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Rzezak" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome > Fabio, > > will you post the gear photos in a bigger resolution? i cant really guess > what he's using there (really intrigued here). or could you tell us > something about the gear he was using? did you get to talk to him about > it? > > big fan of eivind. > > thank you very much. > >>> Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset trio. >>> For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some pics on >>> my blog: >>> http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/ >>> fabio >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: >>> 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 07:04:00 >>> >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 04:27:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7D4C3BE77; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=BMbG8gDWsjya3w3QcNUkdlDB8/ZZcgRzdxRLSBSQp1k=; b=bXMHRqOdCYHKFSJOUc4GAfZ03TUoF5vYks4srZ0A3d6FDlUniL2KVLwq0KPSHgWqrv 34RWxMOUcWw0BGVOnbamLK7N4fjCD/xk2QNdVFDp+gW2rVVJT1Vne2S1ywKcZ4gZMolj tAdtPalvgK34jN9UHgUtWH3eYAu1rKfw4y27s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=wuroD87+qa5PNt4IFIL+SZOdMMCUWiSig2l6pKN0V9F0y+3DZQleHc1GWrzlof4E9u 60nw1X4hhZsyldU9HgmV7UXX0gj8XmiYcDektNiegwkBvYzvzHYJLSHgg3nbxQX3aP+K vdkGa8R+Gnp0S7azLdpumP6sF7HLQpCmp4O4k= Message-Id: <0D219FE5-A572-48FA-A6AF-82113A79C8F3@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--172871143 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 01:20:17 -0300 References: <4A0B2154.9040206@unguitar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 04:27:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--172871143 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Really nice Jeff. Thank you! what about his laptop? any ideas of the software he was running? very best, ariel. On May 14, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out: > > http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00015.jpg > > http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg > > Anyone know what kind of guitar he plays? And any mods on it. > > Jeff > > "It never hurts to help!" > _ Eek the Cat > > http://jeffduke.org > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Ariel Rzezak > wrote: > Fabio, > > will you post the gear photos in a bigger resolution? i cant really > guess what he's using there (really intrigued here). or could you > tell us something about the gear he was using? did you get to talk > to him about it? > > big fan of eivind. > > thank you very much. > > > Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset trio. > For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some pics > on my blog: > http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/ > fabio > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: > 270.12.27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 07:04:00 > > > > > --Apple-Mail-1--172871143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really nice = Jeff. 

Thank you!

what = about his laptop? any ideas of the software he was = running?

very best, = ariel.

On May 14, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote:

I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check = these out:

http://thisphase.org/pics/= DSC00015.jpg

http://thisphase.org/pics/= DSC00018.jpg

Anyone know what kind of guitar he plays? And = any mods on it.

Jeff

"It never hurts to help!"
_ Eek = the Cat

http://jeffduke.org


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Ariel Rzezak = <arzezak@gmail.com> = wrote:
Fabio,

will you post the gear photos in a bigger = resolution? i cant really guess what he's using there (really intrigued = here). or could you tell us something about the gear he was using? did = you get to talk to him about it?

big fan of eivind.

thank = you very much.


Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset = trio.
For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some = pics on my blog:
http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/
fabio
&nb= sp; = ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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= --Apple-Mail-1--172871143-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 04:47:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFA313BE77; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Steve Schneider" To: Subject: GNX4 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:47:56 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D414.7A6343D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnUTyYFHpylMbgOQM2l5vMgF5wb9g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 04:47:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D414.7A6343D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had a GNX4 for quite a while and I am trying to get into looping = for lack of a bass player. First off, the loops will have a gap if you do = not download the new operating system for the thing (version 1.3). Instructions for = how to do this are on the Digitech website. One of the patches in the new operating system fixes the hesitation (gap) that is a problem with the stock unit. I am going to try to use the GNX4 for looping so I can jam with just me and a drummer, I am not real good at it yet just beginning. I notice a lot of folks = think the GNX4 is no good for looping but I don't see any mention of the new operating system that you can download from the internet. It updates through the USB = connection of the unit. As soon as I updated the hesitation was gone. I don=12t = know if this thing will work as a looper for me, I may have to go with a separate dedicated unit to get what I want. I do think that the click tracks are death if you don=12t want to play in 4/4 time all the time so I always turn the click off. I like more jazzy odd timing stuff. I wonder why you guys don=12t seem to = have a review of the GNX4s looping abilities on your website? You could use what I just = wrote as a review if you wish, though I would like to read a review from someone = who has taken=20 it further and is more experienced with looping with this unit. I = bought the extra footswitch that records, erases and lays up to 8 tracks with practically infinite length. Steve S =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D414.7A6343D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have had a GNX4 for quite a while and I am trying = to get into looping for lack of a bass player.  First off, the loops will have a gap if you do not = download
the new operating system for the thing (version = 1.3).  Instructions for how to do this are on the Digitech website.  One = of the patches in the new operating system
fixes the hesitation (gap) that is a problem with the stock unit.  = I am going to try to use the GNX4 for looping so I can jam with just me and a drummer,
I am not real good at it yet just beginning.  I notice a lot of = folks think the GNX4 is no good for looping but I don’t see any mention = of the new operating system that
you can download from the internet.  It updates through the USB = connection of the unit.  As soon as I updated the hesitation was gone.  I don=12t know if this
thing will work as a looper for me, I may have to go with a separate = dedicated unit to get what I want.  I do think that the click tracks are = death if you don=12t
want to play in 4/4 time all the time so I always turn the click = off.  I like more jazzy odd timing stuff.  I wonder why you guys don=12t = seem to have a review of the
GNX4s looping abilities on your website?  You could use what I just = wrote as a review if you wish, though I would like to read a review from = someone who has taken
it further and is more experienced with looping with this unit.  I = bought the extra footswitch that records, erases and lays up to 8 tracks with practically infinite
length.       Steve = S

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D414.7A6343D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 04:54:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 240113BE7C; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Steve Schneider" To: References: <9e0440a60905131705qb920ae3lefde0efb724e561f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: GNX4 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:54:47 -0700 Message-ID: <09FA2F52429247AFA8B2C2861A8DBE63@supercomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9D415.6F23AAE0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnUJ75mMA1IPlcDRb2eIbA2ZVH/twAJ+mrw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905131705qb920ae3lefde0efb724e561f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 04:54:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9D415.6F23AAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, Thanks for responding to a new person on the site. I finally was able to see a post by searching by author. My question to you is where are the options that you mentioned? And I am wondering why anyone would not want to see their post online until someone responds? Don't see why such an option would exist. Still figuring this out but it looks like I will get there. Thanks Steve S _____ From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:06 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: sschne@san.rr.com Subject: Re: GNX4 Steve you're getting in, you may have your options set to not see your posts till someone responds. Jim On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Steve Schneider wrote: I have a GNX4 and have fixed the hesitation problem so many have written about. Can't seem to see my posts online. Could someone e mail me and let me know if this is getting somewhere? Steve s -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9D415.6F23AAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jim,

      =       Thanks for responding to a new person on the site.  I finally was able to see a post by searching = by author.  My question to you is where are the options =

that you mentioned?  And I am = wondering why anyone would not want to see their post online until someone = responds? Don’t see why such an option would exist.  Still figuring this out but it = looks like I

will get there.  Thanks Steve = S

 

From: Jim = Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, = 2009 5:06 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: sschne@san.rr.com
Subject: Re: = GNX4

 

Steve you're getting in, you may have your options set to not = see your posts till someone responds.

 

Jim

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Steve Schneider <sschne@san.rr.com> = wrote:

I have a GNX4 and have fixed the hesitation problem so many have written about.  Can’t seem to see my posts online.  Could = someone e mail me and let me

know if this is getting somewhere?    Steve = s




--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm= usic
www.myspace.com/chinap= aintingmusic
www.myspace.com/ji= mgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm= usic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinm= usic

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9D415.6F23AAE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 05:08:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED2383BE77; Thu, 14 May 2009 05:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:08:25 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> In-Reply-To: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18661dtToUMThHzLhoJLk1jBi91mxTaNKCxiY2 hFWKmpQAQGCmo+SKPq10TiINgSTlzy62sdVuCCsHIg70QODIZ/ FxZWZ3s0RORdGy/YCCsjd1z0fmkRp1o Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 05:08:31 +0000 (UTC) dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the computer mouse. after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i had terrible pain in the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right hand got slow and kind of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took some serious conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the right hand... today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress build up. letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and massaging the fingers regularly has helped me, too. one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking finger joints do experience stress from the operation. unfortunately the movement is too small to trigger blood circulation and other recreative measures usually maintained by the body. this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "sms-thumb" - a terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for messaging. best - tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 05:22:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EC2C3BE77; Thu, 14 May 2009 05:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Steve Schneider" To: Subject: GNX4 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:22:27 -0700 Message-ID: <13D5CEFFE0F2484D8D271BF55F3B9812@supercomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D419.4CC32C60" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnUU/iecPdQ5ScBQKGtP7yUzhCaKw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 05:22:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D419.4CC32C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had a GNX4 for quite a while and I am trying to get into looping = for lack of a bass player. First off, the loops will have a gap if you do = not download the new operating system for the thing (version 1.3). Instructions for = how to do this are on the Digitech website. One of the patches in the new operating system fixes the hesitation (gap) that is a problem with the stock unit. I am going to try to use the GNX4 for looping so I can jam with just me and a drummer, I am not real good at it yet just beginning. I notice a lot of folks = think the GNX4 is no good for looping but I don't see any mention of the new operating system that you can download from the internet. It updates through the USB = connection of the unit. As soon as I updated the hesitation was gone. I don=12t = know if this thing will work as a looper for me, I may have to go with a separate dedicated unit to get what I want. I do think that the click tracks are death if you don=12t want to play in 4/4 time all the time so I always turn the click off. I like more jazzy odd timing stuff. I wonder why you guys don=12t seem to = have a review of the GNX4s looping abilities on your website? You could use what I just = wrote as a review if you wish, though I would like to read a review from someone = who has taken=20 it further and is more experienced with looping with this unit. I = bought the extra footswitch that records, erases and lays up to 8 tracks with practically infinite length. Steve S =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D419.4CC32C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have had a GNX4 for quite a while and I am trying = to get into looping for lack of a bass player.  First off, the loops will have a gap if you do not = download
the new operating system for the thing (version = 1.3).  Instructions for how to do this are on the Digitech website.  One = of the patches in the new operating system
fixes the hesitation (gap) that is a problem with the stock unit.  = I am going to try to use the GNX4 for looping so I can jam with just me and a drummer,
I am not real good at it yet just beginning.  I notice a lot of = folks think the GNX4 is no good for looping but I don’t see any mention = of the new operating system that
you can download from the internet.  It updates through the USB = connection of the unit.  As soon as I updated the hesitation was gone.  I don=12t know if this
thing will work as a looper for me, I may have to go with a separate = dedicated unit to get what I want.  I do think that the click tracks are = death if you don=12t
want to play in 4/4 time all the time so I always turn the click = off.  I like more jazzy odd timing stuff.  I wonder why you guys don=12t = seem to have a review of the
GNX4s looping abilities on your website?  You could use what I just = wrote as a review if you wish, though I would like to read a review from = someone who has taken
it further and is more experienced with looping with this unit.  I = bought the extra footswitch that records, erases and lays up to 8 tracks with practically infinite
length.       Steve = S

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9D419.4CC32C60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 07:38:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F24093BE77; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=M0v6pL6wPb1kiz0voxEbwTzyY80l8MWvjdKJXRJiGRc=; b=I0DtypeCV4tEbJ2HWOuHhYrPtuhs62w6qZ4goKioYYhucerBbYGQZYE2ukMBjBAk5Q 7wVOp+7Am3QkyEUczKUy4j5ELSg/7gSeVuWK4MsrVfMq/U5uHNwkq7ZN/CbSrQugmr9x znctR+SUXy+z81Qi82JxLnZEQsCwrR5DQc8tY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Yt4QVYtqT+neS3c5ax4hfxU3id00aN4D6mvYjc/A0+grvNfOE5uLcBKh6wwnuuvRgk klZ38Roh86s29YYuojJ5rLlyzw5lEwZF6SJTggwgTEYgm2enAqrDEMFgH24Q16iPfSDt cjJ/sSA+TgJDXeq8odZoe41MNmPP1ds9E7s4E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:38:06 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905140038w74060f4ep7ac9355d543e42f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Very important knowledge, Tilman! What you can do as well, if having to work hard with a computer, is to switch over to a laptop with track pad every second hour. Then don't click with the right hand's index finger but with the thumb. What I do as well is to shift fingers and hands all the time. Juggle over the mouse for the left hand. If that doesn't feel comfortable for you, just make some lovely caffe latta and dring it with your right hand while mousing a way with the left. And move cup far away from keybard! ;-)) After ruing a couple of keyboards in the past I am today a Master Keyboard Non Destroyer. But my sons keep pouring milk and stuff into their machines. Seems it takes a couple of generations for the gene pool to adapt properly... (ouch, will stop typing this post now since it starts turning into nonsense....) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the computer mouse. > after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i had terrible pain in > the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right hand got slow and kind > of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took some serious > conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the right hand... > today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress build up. > letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and massaging the > fingers regularly has helped me, too. > > one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking finger joints do > experience stress from the operation. unfortunately the movement is too > small to trigger blood circulation and other recreative measures usually > maintained by the body. > this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "sms-thumb" - a > terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for messaging. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 07:41:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96C913BE7C; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5fRSluG7ijzO9vbQOBPYUKI0fpHxA1BD01hUR9t9Hbw=; b=MSsca0OcJcmirQV+7C6PzMzyYFYN/HOVPRfTTWGf+/DHvr7u1WpCbXMAqw8XcrFGw+ XH8KrPYFpf6SkcWE5uYH7UKaX1s+WLzHtGZUZqd00lWnxw4c9mBa76Xgfr93lS7O2pNW 2Cvatlfi9h7xPGCF24dEAPbVr3NOwq3zQuaaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZwRYAkwK8KcAjmurxhEnk+aQo0dC01tumJyn4DUpbtC/jg11ysOF/jJ2BH/kvv2Eg3 jQo3gHReAF1lIzeNINYo2zNAELe1w5jkjotpHPYZkMqRg9GufRNOMS39BdFgzcEGCSuq 9QdP56dR0DnuIFaBV3Ln3RPJ7Ine1GTLqhWtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A0B2154.9040206@unguitar.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:41:47 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905140041j443f70c6p9536b9f2f244194@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_72AF.A.NT.7s8CKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Ariel, Do a search in this list's archives. I know Eivind's setup have been posted at least once. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > will you post the gear photos in a bigger resolution? i cant really guess > what he's using there (really intrigued here). or could you tell us > something about the gear he was using? did you get to talk to him about it? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 07:50:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A0B93BE77; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1242287398; l=2101; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=xmJIzo87DWEeMV+9LeukcK0VmbQ=; b=Yuw4wnD/6RQocRhy2L0sP/pYAbXxm1xwVfoErMKp3anycHl3O78mqse6S6Ft+GgogUe Y0ncBh0eU2mcSCIZyDn6b+Qk6GAp/qJdPPfmnXplSO2jN+8jDbe0szC8wH6BwhICOSjO7 YMoStGTwrz5oTt1rlmlog3qgmkc1bIx7Ftc= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWLBOrxXsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00a101c9d468$fc94d770$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> <20090513122757.ahkh3wacp448wskg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <3FAB8844-E7AC-45FE-A3C5-7B56351234BA@aol.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:51:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Tom, what do you mean exactly? Starting of the second phrase f.ex. in the middle of the first phrase? Which means to avoid that the second loop starts the same time as the first one? Is it that what you want ? If you are German : Du kannst mir in Deutsch schreiben. Best, Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Griesgraber" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question > Thanks Kevin (and all), > > You guys are literally better than Roland customer support ;-) > > One more question if you don't mind. Is it ever possible in multi mode > (having say 2 phrases playing at once) to have the phrases > intentionally out of sync and "cycling" against each other? I've been > messing with the "loop sync" button obviously, but it seems to do > something a bit different. It seems like with loop sync on the > beginning of say a short phrase 2 always lines up with the beginning > of a long phrase 1. With loop sync off, I can get the short phrase 2 > to start at any point along phrase 1, but then it always starts at > that same point, it doesn't "cycle" even if they are unrelated lengths. > > Any thoughts? Thanks much! > > Tom > > > On May 13, 2009, at 10:27 AM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > > OK... found it... > > > > You can route the INPUT to the Sub out. Check page 50 of the > > owner's manual. > > > > Thus, you can use Main OUT for the loops only, and route your Input > > to the Sub out only. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > -- Kevin > > > > Quoting Tom Griesgraber : > > > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here > >> know if there's a way to kill the dry signal from the outputs, so > >> that > >> what comes out of it is only what's been recorded, and not what is > >> being played live? If you know how to do this, you're already a > >> step > >> up on Roland product support ;-) > >> > >> Thanks for any tips! > >> Tom > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 07:51:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE0893BE7F; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:50:57 +0200 Message-ID: <007501c9d468$b8b07870$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9D479.7C394870" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcnUWhWUfh2U158CQYi8y5VUEUdTyQADlIrQ X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.166; VDF: 7.1.3.196) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:51:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9D479.7C394870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out: > http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00015.jpg > http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg ah, these are the ones I recently took in Cologne :-) thanks for keeping them !! -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9D479.7C394870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 > I had some pretty high res pics I got = somewhere,=20 check these out:
 > http://thisphase.org/pics= /DSC00015.jpg
 > = http://thisphase.org/pics= /DSC00018.jpg
 
 
ah, these are the ones I recently took in Cologne :-)  = thanks for=20 keeping them !! 
 
-Michael
 
------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9D479.7C394870-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 08:01:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFEBC3BE78; Thu, 14 May 2009 08:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1242288100; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=dBzOEp620zFCTMXIF8UgXNpLONo=; b=A8Ckzt42Vsam5D3kgGf0euUnCx5HiFCiMWqJ67lK29L6gCAkEr1C+aSyEA6Eafhr 7iy8BSrOZ/B1oAFmwdDdfieejcKczouIOIM3F7pVTGUxM7Hu6oLImuyVyZ2p9pDQ; X-BINDING: X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=gIhkCSCLf1ecPXQPS4MA:9 a=IyNzl2lrGKXefO5Zxd0A:7 a=qwxcd7CgvG-z8bV6ddhc1WbW9l8A:4 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=SJrOssN3uQAodbQqPBUA:9 a=ddsC23M6gRPF3qlOuQEA:7 a=WH2KFcxrkZd1b8WAGzSiPZVNX9AA:4 a=0GXzayXv4hcA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001201c9d46a$35e39920$23ec3547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <007501c9d468$b8b07870$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 04:01:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9D448.AE775600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <3KUO1C.A.ESD.k_8CKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:01:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9D448.AE775600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I knew I must have gotten them from this list. Great pics, thanks = Michael. Any ideas on his guitar? Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:50 AM Subject: RE: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome > I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out: > http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00015.jpg > http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg =20 ah, these are the ones I recently took in Cologne :-) thanks for = keeping them !!=20 -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9D448.AE775600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I knew I must have gotten them from = this list.=20 Great pics, thanks Michael. Any ideas on his guitar?
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: Eivind Aarset gig = in=20 Rome

 > I had some pretty high res pics I = got=20 somewhere, check these out:
 > http://thisphase.org/pics= /DSC00015.jpg
 > = http://thisphase.org/pics= /DSC00018.jpg
 
 
ah, these are the ones I recently took in Cologne :-)  = thanks for=20 keeping them !! 
 
-Michael
 
= ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9D448.AE775600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 08:06:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2A8A3BE73; Thu, 14 May 2009 08:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 198839672/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.191.16/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.191.16 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApcCAANuC0pPTr8Q/2dsb2JhbAAIzjGEAgWINQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,193,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="198839672" Message-ID: <4A0BD3C5.6050900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:18:13 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GNX-4 Looping References: <88A4463747FA491093EB53071414DC08@supercomputer> In-Reply-To: <88A4463747FA491093EB53071414DC08@supercomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Steve Schneider wrote: > I have had a GNX4 for quite a while and I am trying to get into looping > for lack of a bass player. First off, *_the loops will have a gap if > you do not download > the new operating system for the thing (version 1.3)_*. Instructions > for how to do this are on the Digitech website. cheers Steve, that's useful info for the list > I do think that the click tracks are > *_death _*if you dont > want to play in 4/4 time all the time so I always turn the click off. I > like more jazzy odd timing stuff. I wonder why you guys dont seem to > have a review of the > GNX4s looping abilities on your website? Us guys don't have a website, we're members of the mailing list. You'd have to contact Kim Flint direct for that. > I > bought the extra footswitch that records, erases and lays up to 8 tracks > with practically infinite > length. Steve S Now, if those tracks would play simultaneously :-) Anyway, welcome to the list Steve. Hope you can find some valuable info hear in return for what you bring. andy butler www.andybutler.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 08:10:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D99D3BE7F; Thu, 14 May 2009 08:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 14 May 2009 08:10:19 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.no; s=s1024; t=1242288217; bh=d3z2hJP15FuOecW2xlsK/3A4cBx15S1GUXePdMjW95s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RfQXhjlYnHdmVmQGVzpne+Dtpa5pP14ZFS7dtKCCsVIsPW0uRuk+pSDBtzlpducCO9JTuJINMaERyHizv1z7vR50WEvCXhUASDc+NwWLQagOGIdho3kPvuInEaoUCrr1cFjzex10gDdI5Toho744N4CeIZMVe1LuwoRqoyzdyVE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZQQJOLwP+VJFnr5mmvsO32FuNJv8EgSmxzVFSJm0U1pcbWNofZp0zY+Ktiut2xIGfLnOC4aCeQ/1kTz3iewDmdRUS+1UJZjlDOXEJCqtjALgmnt/lHUxYi3KtFQEkKjuhkxbU8PLa0gst2+XRoQbnUYhMATBfvTYIbYugm6md3A=; Message-ID: <668792.22858.qm@web26205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: A1J3jkgVM1lZmI5Z.ppKtk9j3sKUXSyTm.KnJk7F9.tXdExyHMh5DxGHlqk0Si8WO8oFSWS1jo0MzwI.TxSKQQHcG3C1EFa5hNaLL7zMr.jO_r7JjF_aWmQK33C8eswMIrpGCA79ZGOs3c96stdMyUXoXDewJIL1rrFeUYCpCBy2UyjhkKVUAycPzQMn853pE.qvGqjOhvncdn2JyDy3NeEpGZvbQLAtKpYadcSOpyUv0FKHVjklBnz8B1C1j3RChti_tmufUQoHdSuiON4y1huYOevdm6f7MGuZPZYh.yOKBY.XxPbNaLOOQ125NMQqV.YZELs6nwhPryXw X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:03:37 +0000 (GMT) From: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome (guitar, software) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1768818707-1242288217=:22858" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:10:19 +0000 (UTC) --0-1768818707-1242288217=:22858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ! Aarset lives in Oslo city, an hours drive from my hometown.=A0 Guitar:Aarset uses a custom guitar made by Jan Braathen. Its a strat type, = with a extra input for a piezo mic. This signal (piezo) goes to his Travell= er MoTu interface and Mac. He makes some of his soundscapes with this, usin= g reverb/delay. But the basic sound of it is similar to an acoustic guitar.= =A0 Looping:Aarset looping is done with DL4, SooperLooper, or reording with Abl= eton. Hi also uses=A0Soundtoy plugins. Aarsets Mac is in MIDI-sync with the= drummers, who also uses Ableton for drumloops.=A0 Guitarsignal:Aarset splits his guitarsignal, one goes to amp and the other = goes to Mac, Ableton, Sooperlooper, Soundtoy with echoboy and the to PA, as= a=0A stereosignal. All his pedals goes to both amp and Mac.=A0 Aarset plays on Nils Petter Molvaers and Jon Hassells latest CDs. There are= youtube clips of Aarsets band and him playing with Molvaer. Aarset plays o= n Kongsberg Jazzfestival (Norway) this summer. =A0 Best Regards=A0Rune Fagereng =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 --- Den tor 2009-05-14 skrev Jeff Duke : Fra: Jeff Duke Emne: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome Til: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Dato: Torsdag 14. mai 2009 06.26 I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out: http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00015.jpg http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg Anyone know what kind of guitar he plays? And any mods on it. Jeff "It never hurts to help!" _ Eek the Cat http://jeffduke.org ----- Original Message ----- From:=0A "Ariel Rzezak" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome > Fabio, >=20 > will you post the gear photos in a bigger resolution? i cant really=A0 gu= ess what he's using there (really intrigued here). or could you tell=A0 us = something about the gear he was using? did you get to talk to him=A0 about = it? >=20 > big fan of eivind. >=20 > thank you very much. >=20 >>> Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by Eivind Aarset trio. >>> For those who are interested I have put my impressions and some=A0 pics= on my blog: >>> http://blog-eterogeneo.blogspot.com/ >>>=0A fabio >>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0-----------------------------------------------------------= ------------- >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.= 27/2112 - Release Date: 05/13/09 07:04:00 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 =0A=0A=0A _________________________________________________________=0A= Alt i ett. 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Aarset lives in Oslo city, an hours drive from my hometown.=A0
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Guitar:
Aarset uses a custom guitar made by Jan Br= aathen. Its a strat type, with a extra input for a piezo mic. This signal (= piezo) goes to his Traveller MoTu interface and Mac. He makes some of his s= oundscapes with this, using reverb/delay. But the basic sound of it is simi= lar to an acoustic guitar.=A0

Looping:
A= arset looping is done with DL4, SooperLooper, or reording with Ableton. Hi = also uses=A0Soundtoy plugins. Aarsets Mac is in MIDI-sync with the drummers= , who also uses Ableton for drumloops.=A0

Guitarsi= gnal:
Aarset splits his guitarsignal, one goes to amp and the other goes to Mac, Ableto= n, Sooperlooper, Soundtoy with echoboy and the to PA, as a=0A stereosignal.= All his pedals goes to both amp and Mac.=A0

Aarse= t plays on Nils Petter Molvaers and Jon Hassells latest CDs. There are yout= ube clips of Aarsets band and him playing with Molvaer. Aarset plays on Kon= gsberg Jazzfestival (Norway) this summer. =A0

Best= Regards=A0
Rune Fagereng =A0 =A0 =A0=A0

--- De= n tor 2009-05-14 skrev Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:<= br>

Fra: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
Emn= e: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome
Til: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
Dato: Torsdag 14. mai 2009 06.26

I had= some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out:

http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00015.jpg

http://t= hisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg

Anyone know what kind of guitar h= e plays? And any mods on it.

Jeff

"It never hurts to help!"_ Eek the Cat

http://jeffduke.org

----- Original Message ----- = From:=0A "Ariel Rzezak" <arzezak@gmail.com>
T= o: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent= : Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rom= e


> Fabio,
>
> will you post the gear photos in a bigger = resolution? i cant really=A0 guess what he's using there (really intrigued = here). or could you tell=A0 us something about the gear he was using? did y= ou get to talk to him=A0 about it?
>
> big fan of eivind.
>
>= thank you very much.
>
>>> Yesterday I've seen a beautifull gig by = Eivind Aarset trio.
>>> For those who are interested I have put my impre= ssions and some=A0 pics on my blog:
>>> http://blog-eterogeneo.= blogspot.com/
>>>=0A fabio
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<= /table> --0-1768818707-1242288217=:22858-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 08:21:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7EA23BE77; Thu, 14 May 2009 08:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=m1epkseziNFje7tRPsqXkDl6QCZ/yc8cCC4HhYhUmsc=; b=hAiCmcgHDoC449eiwnIieFu87aPF7dMmiKLpMVzSgHpJkjN/unoUKNiDEorFw32vui OGJHAdBAeED/vdxnQE7DJfCGHaczcL/n4YASC2SUVY9WPUhK93YXLdGVIOONevmCl1KI DpZoy7MaFPQ9zUSngjfSE7XTdTz3+Bdm2uhjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wMeM3kMccSDYOtqKZG09RwjZxGFufxZKhz+9CthdpnVKDX8d3SbEMPabTuFKx37vLy aedPr6Ds9O9eKuSggfEwnZhlTqS+KNz/dxrH0bVpCw34S/Hp5KeOIEbJop5/yQEgRRt1 Br5vmFfRQe+t2MHNPaVzYsW22O7KKtti54qlU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <007501c9d468$b8b07870$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <007501c9d468$b8b07870$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:21:40 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905140121m32c592b7o86499268ffc7c321@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset gig in Rome From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Nice pix! But the Electro Harmonix Micro Synth is missing. According to Eivind that box is essential for his typical clarinet like sound; fretless guitar attacked with EBow and the Micro Synth used only as channel EQ (not using its envelope capabilities). On the laptop spins Ableton Live and SooperLooper... at least they did one year ago. Some years ago, and on the older albums, he also had an Electrixpro Repeater and an Eventide Eclipse, but both units crapped out. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > =C2=A0> I had some pretty high res pics I got somewhere, check these out: > =C2=A0> http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00015.jpg > =C2=A0> http://thisphase.org/pics/DSC00018.jpg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 09:53:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 417813BE73; Thu, 14 May 2009 09:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2a3fa55f-5d72-4e0d-af12-841aad54a4c5_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:_Sellin?= =?Windows-1252?Q?g_a_custom?= =?Windows-1252?Q?_Timtone_R?= =?Windows-1252?Q?MC-equiped?= =?Windows-1252?Q?_VG-drivin?= =?Windows-1252?Q?g_axe=85?= Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:53:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <85957161-EA5A-4753-AD10-A40A8EE97EE7@earthlink.net> References: <85957161-EA5A-4753-AD10-A40A8EE97EE7@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2009 09:53:32.0659 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7648430:01C9D479] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:53:33 +0000 (UTC) --_2a3fa55f-5d72-4e0d-af12-841aad54a4c5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You might try www.thegearpage.net you need to be a member (small fee) to pu= t up ads but there are a lot of people there with taste for cool=2C expensi= ve gear. =20 > From: dpcoffin@earthlink.net > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Selling a custom Timtone RMC-equiped VG-driving axe=85 > Date: Wed=2C 13 May 2009 14:05:07 -0700 >=20 > Hey=2C folks >=20 > Also have an old V-shaped wood-body/graphite neck Steinberger w/ > TransTrem. Never sold a guitar online before=3B anybody got the lowdown > on best places to post hi-end guitars for sale=2C and best ways to > verify/establish prices? >=20 > Appreciate any tips=3B thanks! >=20 > dpc >=20 --_2a3fa55f-5d72-4e0d-af12-841aad54a4c5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You might try www.thegearpage.net =3Byou need to be a member (small fee) to put up ads =3Bbut there= are a lot of people there with taste for cool=2C expensive gear.
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>=3B
>=3B Also have an old V-shaped = wood-body/graphite neck Steinberger w/
>=3B TransTrem. Never sold a gu= itar online before=3B anybody got the lowdown
>=3B on best places to p= ost hi-end guitars for sale=2C and best ways to
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= --_2a3fa55f-5d72-4e0d-af12-841aad54a4c5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 10:08:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BBFD3BE72; Thu, 14 May 2009 10:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242295691; bh=sx5Q7brfaEb8yWxspUhap2Tgam+PUMU2LCBtH4LjUAQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vd3YIgOg8Oja853F1NeAMKXaHar22OfZoWFxVzutUXS+DBKWhsa3gXQpGnHg+WqerdzYN6TK37GSfgcbEktofhP9X0BU7CjeGop5fMvQks2KmHpZwidyg9EICXjps1xi7hdLKtJHvrXVw27kRVVHgT+48nf7qjv9iSSKQi7tRGs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Z6ttzcNWkwO76asoKEQ2p9UUjogHEswLb47oFhEOof9D6DsNbcGT/4NNt3gkOJ19vLfDuS7DqdxHm3FD3ZKzWBfJfQhtiH+gkMAhDZCnGSObKV6Bm2RoyxMMGxWL1G6WqrzYx7Z8F+YMRMsjfVl1tN7oZqHfENdHN9oyvZ4i2mg=; Message-ID: <774809.96709.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:08:11 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:08:13 +0000 (UTC) i dont know how you guys can explore so much software,plugins etc. it requi= res hours of sitting in front of the PC and staring at the screen,i suffer = from backaches and my eyes arent the best either so for me it d be impossib= le to explore all of the great stuff you guys talk about here=0Asometimes = even the LD emails are enough for me!=0ALuis=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangul= ocom=0A=0A=0A--- Per Boysen schrieb am Do, 14.5.2009:= =0A=0A> Von: Per Boysen =0A> Betreff: Re: OT: was back= pain, now mouse-hand pain=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> = Datum: Donnerstag, 14. Mai 2009, 0:38=0A> Very important knowledge, Tilman!= =0A> What you can do as well, if having=0A> to work hard with a computer, i= s to switch over to a laptop=0A> with track=0A> pad every second hour. Then= don't click with the right=0A> hand's index=0A> finger but with the thumb.= What I do as well is to shift=0A> fingers and=0A> hands all the time. Jugg= le over the mouse for the left=0A> hand. If that=0A> doesn't feel comfortab= le for you, just make some lovely=0A> caffe latta=0A> and dring it with you= r right hand while mousing a way with=0A> the left.=0A> And move cup far aw= ay from keybard! ;-))=A0 After ruing=0A> a couple of=0A> keyboards in the p= ast I am today a Master Keyboard Non=0A> Destroyer. But=0A> my sons keep po= uring milk and stuff into their machines.=0A> Seems it=0A> takes a couple o= f generations for the gene pool to adapt=0A> properly...=0A> (ouch, will st= op typing this post now since it starts=0A> turning into=0A> nonsense....)= =0A> =0A> Greetings from Sweden=0A> =0A> Per Boysen=0A> www.boysen.se=0A> w= ww.perboysen.com=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Tilman= n Dehnhard =0A> wrote:=0A> > dear fellow loopers, ple= ase be very careful with the=0A> computer mouse.=0A> > after mixing a recor= ding using almost only the mouse i=0A> had terrible pain in=0A> > the hand = and inflammation around the elbow. my right=0A> hand got slow and kind=0A> = > of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took=0A> some serious=0A>= > conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the=0A> right hand...= =0A> > today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and=0A> stress buil= d up.=0A> > letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply=0A> moving a= nd massaging the=0A> > fingers regularly has helped me, too.=0A> >=0A> > on= e of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking=0A> finger joints do=0A> = > experience stress from the operation. unfortunately=0A> the movement is t= oo=0A> > small to trigger blood circulation and other=0A> recreative measur= es usually=0A> > maintained by the body.=0A> > this was discovered when a c= ondition surfaced called=0A> the "sms-thumb" - a=0A> > terrible stinging pa= in in the thumb from using=0A> cellulars for messaging.=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A= =0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 10:26:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA93F3BE7C; Thu, 14 May 2009 10:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mqaHNPXnhuVaBdMe0tRsw+aBkrfDflO3CQO5VGXEjMo=; b=h21Gbys2lw4KMsksyy94Atgmgql8SOZtPNEfzN8Dphs+dfYQaCYupnHrhcK00fYbY8 JvcIp88q9/z2aLxEXRMlcvvWEx5Yq12hRxt1wO9qdWqMSDaBkFQ1zSYEH/iOnixP17/y ekIHMIEtyplvQKu7zevIW/POXuBA2EHAZ/H18= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bMIZQzrPLZ1hAjcvBT+HrqEOCJ9cxLfzLUXgmCilOrYvtNmCpGXK5TG6G9O4QnTwK5 oI0qPapkga9YwI8u53kbTwuxZ6KcNmaqzWpszxFcXPF23f6cwJ230+xPuZeLgjVMIbCI j12bUstdpyczXNzu+8DX2O3SaC+NrbgycyqAQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <774809.96709.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <774809.96709.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:26:53 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905140326j6036bc63u6daffce6bc443beb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:26:54 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:08 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > i dont know how you guys can explore so much software,plugins etc. it req= uires hours of sitting in front < of the PC and staring at the screen,i suffer from backaches and my eyes arent the best > either so for me it d be impossible to explore all of the great =C2=A0stu= ff you guys talk about here No one can explore everything there is out there. Don't bother about exploring new software if you are not certain that a particular function of this software will be used in an awesome way by you in your music! Any other attitude may just waist your time. I have reduced my setup tremendously - only using Mobius, the Apple/Mainstage plug-ins and the SoundToys native bundle. I won't loose time and health "exploring" other stuff because it eats into the time I have for actually learning about playing music (and that's the fun part). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 12:32:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1818E3BE75; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:32:02 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <3FAB8844-E7AC-45FE-A3C5-7B56351234BA@aol.com> Message-ID: <20090514123202.51780@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0905130617r1bb7444aqe26bd35cf2f94592@mail.gmail.com> <20090513123041.36353y3denlc5dyc@www.wightman.ca> <9e0440a60905130945y676621eby9a3a9e0f203311f4@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00905130958p56ac8414m1d19dea7624aa754@mail.gmail.com> <8B0D5CEE-28D3-4315-9E4F-4663CD6F51C0@aol.com> <20090513122757.ahkh3wacp448wskg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <3FAB8844-E7AC-45FE-A3C5-7B56351234BA@aol.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/5A08tiWn5T+k8AiFgVPjf1Hg4eYxuofOorSnPNA ScPvoPyDrKkgpNJE+FhkWYvDiAJ5tTbk3tdg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: LGJuHn00bXB+b8xpyTU27dAiLyUmZYg8 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi Tom first of all, welcome to LD! > You guys are literally better than Roland customer support ;-) Thanks for the kudos. So, first some basic terms: - LOOP SYNC ensures that all loops have the exact same length + start/end point. This is set globally via button you have found. - TEMPO SYNC ensures that the loops are quantized according to the current running loop (not necessarily same length, though). You have to turn it on/off for each of the three PHRASES (=loops) in the RC-50. This is usually what people want in MULTI MODE and the tricky part is you don't see it immediately. You only see it when you have a loop already running that has set the tempo and then a light (I think a green LED indicating something like "quantize") tells you that. So you might rather want to experiment with the TEMPO SYNC for your purposes. have fun! Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 13:05:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFD6C3BE71; Thu, 14 May 2009 13:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <63fba0c3a8705f3ad3b6471b877df308.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <20090512040724.A6BD73BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> <63fba0c3a8705f3ad3b6471b877df308.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:21:57 +0900 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, looppool@cruzio.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:05:07 +0000 (UTC) At 3:13 AM -0700 5/12/09, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: >On my last CD of abstract electronica (which came out at a very tough time > for me emotionally, so I never put an ounce of energy into promoting it), > 'Purple Hand', Coincidentally, I think that's my favorite of your CD's. A hidden gem that deserves more notice than it got. :) >By the time I finished, the original sound was unreconginzeable >as a guitar sound >and yet it had the same fundamental pitch information. I think I remember that sound as well, or something like it (there are many, many interesting moments on that disc). Unfortunately, 'Purple Hand' is back in storage with all my other physical CD's, so I can't check. :( >I love this: processing pitch over and over so that it adds weird >artifacts. > >I use two BOSS pitch shifters now.........pitching a sound up two octaves >and then pitching that sound down two octaves so that it is the same pitch >and duration as the original sound with >tons of artifacts added on. That's brilliant! Which BOSS shifters are you using? There's a Behringer clone that's supposed to be a pretty good replica of the PS-5. If it's as cheap as some of their other knock-off pedals, it might be worth going out and buying two of them just to try this out. Thanks for the ideas, Rick!!! --m. -- _____ "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 13:05:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C218D3BE81; Thu, 14 May 2009 13:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:04:37 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Exploring new Loooperlative features Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:05:08 +0000 (UTC) At 2:07 PM +0200 5/12/09, Sjaak wrote: > >I have just started to use the aux outputs of the LP1. What I'm >going to try is to program a switch on my MFC which fires the follow >commands: > >1) LP1 => Half speed >2) LP1 => Assign to AUX 1 >3) Mainstage or Bidule => Activate Pitchshifter That oughta work! :) >I haven't tried the following, but since we have two AUX outputs so >if you combine the new LP1 functions (3rd, 4th ,5th etc) with a >pitchsifter, I'm curious if you could create usuable three-note >chords. Ah, now there are a couple of things worth thinking about if you're trying to get a three-note chord: First, depending upon your shifter, you may be able to do this simply by routing to a single pitch transposition device. I'm using an Alesis Akira, for instance, and it will let me output two entirely different transposed voices. I route out Aux 1 to the Akira, then use MIDI CC's to control the interval of the two harmonies. The Akira's Mix knob controls the balance between the transposed voices and the original signal, resulting in quick-&-dirty triads. I know other devices will do (at least) two harmony voices, so you may be able to do what you want with a very simple setup. Second, if you're going to try this with single-harmony transposers on both Aux Outs, you're going to have to add some commands in there to copy or bounce tracks. IIRC, an LP1 track can only access a single output. I put in a feature request a while back to change that (wishlist item #19, also details at: http://www.looperlative.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=88&p=2485#p2485 ) but I don't think there's been any progress yet. To output the same track through all three Outs (Main, Aux 1, & Aux 2) you have to copy the original track over to two more tracks. You then need to set Track 1 to Main, Track 2 to Aux 1, and Track 3 to Aux 2. Of course, with a Mix control on either of the pitch shifters, you can bleed the original signal through and possibly save on one track. This overall methodology does start to eat tracks, though, so be aware and plan ahead. >I have also been experimenting by copying a loop to a new track and >play it half speed. If you do this with percussion or drums, you get >a nice syncopation effect. Sweet. I used to do that with our samplers years ago (old Emu Emax's, SCI 2000-series's, etc., etc., etc.; kinda dating myself here, i guess). I lost many an evening just standing there in the dark watching the lights blink and listening to the parts play against each other. One other thing that helps with this time stretch gimmick is if you think of the LP1's transposition ability as the "Time" control, and the shifter as the "Pitch" control. I've gotten plenty of ideas by considering the LP1's transpositions solely as the ability to stretch the time of a loop between 1/4x and 4x it's original speed; then viewing the shifter as what ultimately determines the loop's pitch. For instance, copy a melody track and drop it to half-speed -- just as you did with the drums above. However, now set the pitch shifter to only +7 semitones. Now, you have the second melody track moving and half the speed of the original, and playing a harmony that is a perfect fourth lower than the original track. Add a bit of MIDI control, and you can control the harmony in real time: perhaps shifting it to a fifth, an octave or a third below during the middle of the loop. Or add a sequence to control the harmonies. Bill Walker used to do some really way-out stuff like this on his Repeater, and his stuff was just frickin' beautiful! Lots of neat combinations there. Good luck! ;) --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 13:36:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 141163BE71; Thu, 14 May 2009 13:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XT8tWvAsq8HgBq9hmM+UoXtQy7lwRS4JZqsVqWN30hU=; b=EITUR4qfBntoNH5RnOgi2l/ch3QNH+ul4cdZwbLNasssB8hHYbTOYax1BBNrkcZUTT 1t2WCE6Ee8k8miwyjiQolF5+Sw9NwuZCOXl/+c94b4sWwRC+IBxQjeLW4C6R2zc2MmnS 2s6yXGmoiBI5WERAhtUN/9iaEKiQdR4jMt8HI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oqtQLnXsWPGszTcENj1sXZ1ZSSJJ7DhZfxxs/jNBaeKqgGarbwhWc7oxLdIV/ZNfHH Hw3232DLr86koEy+8vzCVdmYt++uI7FXydAdZNZZ1L1GZhvFtnwhIU1pWSSmN5pqe1Zr MFhWmnZL+jHfnp8KvjSj4ePRSKJ0Cdi+xB9ZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <09FA2F52429247AFA8B2C2861A8DBE63@supercomputer> References: <9e0440a60905131705qb920ae3lefde0efb724e561f@mail.gmail.com> <09FA2F52429247AFA8B2C2861A8DBE63@supercomputer> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:36:34 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905140636r200ac3b0of2c36c13e914355b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GNX4 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Steve I'll research and get back to you. I'm not a 100 p that is how it works but my posts work like that and my thought it was done that way to reduce chatter. Jim On 5/14/09, Steve Schneider wrote: > Jim, > > Thanks for responding to a new person on the site. I finally > was able to see a post by searching by author. My question to you is where > are the options > > that you mentioned? And I am wondering why anyone would not want to see > their post online until someone responds? Don't see why such an option would > exist. Still figuring this out but it looks like I > > will get there. Thanks Steve S > > > > _____ > > From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:06 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc: sschne@san.rr.com > Subject: Re: GNX4 > > > > Steve you're getting in, you may have your options set to not see your posts > till someone responds. > > > > Jim > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Steve Schneider wrote: > > I have a GNX4 and have fixed the hesitation problem so many have written > about. Can't seem to see my posts online. Could someone e mail me and let > me > > know if this is getting somewhere? Steve s > > > > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 14:19:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D28C03BE73; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <837f6de984aa7e0a17e695cd9106fab1@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:19:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Tilmann, I'm sure others will come up with a variety of very good solutions and suggestions too. I used to suffer with pain and fatigue in my right arm and shoulder from using a mouse (I'm right-handed). I'm a graphic designer and make a living with my computer, so I couldn't very well stop feeding my family. Now I use a track ball (a Kensington Orbit) and have none of that difficulty whatsoever. Sometimes it's not that you have to stop doing what you're doing, but change something a little so you're using different muscles. Good luck! Ted On May 13, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the computer mouse. > after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i had terrible > pain in the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right hand got > slow and kind of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took > some serious conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the > right hand... > today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress build up. > letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and > massaging the fingers regularly has helped me, too. > > one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking finger joints do > experience stress from the operation. unfortunately the movement is > too small to trigger blood circulation and other recreative measures > usually maintained by the body. > this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "sms-thumb" - > a terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for > messaging. > > best - tilmann > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 14:31:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66E9F3BE75; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TP7e02o6RJiRVQLBbaQMK9CNJ3wwSvSOYEMHYa3jH1w=; b=WvnXvobEgjJNCISorjue0E1cABGe1bxywB5BTiSrCqGEf1nUk52Ib4zCIlrMEu5T8f +guo1ZSNL5zALMrfZgNp/wjBBXlEYIn2SCAC0OJynbAD712fGgb6pHBcjDCLNjjdvnHe UjiuicYSy6bhLjZP+4NU+Tx96GBM28Due/foI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OuJm4DFzphw3TZK+rOW0rjl3ic/4IRGcKWcsQL2yDuYe4EWCa8XB3LxLJcS5eOasAY oRrjOcHS1zepJBy1nNmriCPn+Ta+Tpfx+H5AL7e/1pBof/+a8Ue/+71bSaN9DPWnXFck noCaLqcyKByNPxbbPfMAHRCiVDjUzBlUlSDmc= Message-ID: <4A0C29AD.6070304@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:24:45 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anybody out there? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <6xhbLD.A.Y8F.ftCDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Omid Shirazi schrieb: > i am new to this forum and wondering, if my message is reaching you! > > *If yes, so please give me some echo-cho-oo..:)* too much feedback for my taste, builds up an endless Echo-cho-cho-cho... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 14:41:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 548AE3BE7E; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ac7GvB5FdyqnI8ojon3VdqgVbh5ghlYGN0BeT+oIja8=; b=X7bOliqtqBJ360cl3iBmderuGOJ986mrrIBU6EWvPQQBn94pRVxethi8vtq3zzlLhJ /lCG6oL6+L3k6iNHIfdJ56YVkcba1kB2+isYwNTHB1kTvNxRmRLR2ERNssfFUwAp1N/A 4zLFNYKoOOgrBys76+W/Z9YIpbbKckuYw/Y5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jLQssX3GWz259Dmpp06lHvT6y4ZrLPtyP4YCebpZh/6yRBgLIiSmRlqbGpyrX4vNQX v1qmX2Ny/FtUWOT/az5VOiUrmK35azPrA3XDc9xhytrubW8C7kF1CpT1YcbQz+CC3n9C SvNmIxGFtnRZ/Xatk8EoVr+YQfwz0hq+QIvNQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <837f6de984aa7e0a17e695cd9106fab1@charter.net> References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> <837f6de984aa7e0a17e695cd9106fab1@charter.net> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:41:38 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90905140741j6d2ce036s25b67e88a9dea418@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ccf0c5779920469e053b6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:41:39 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ccf0c5779920469e053b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've suffered from musculoskeletal disorders in the past... never again. Setting up your office properly is crucial to avoid injury. So is taking breaks, stretching, diversifying your tasks. See below for some advice on setting up your office: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/occup-travail/checklist-aidememoire-eng.php Sylvain On 5/14/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > Tilmann, > > I'm sure others will come up with a variety of very good solutions and > suggestions too. > > I used to suffer with pain and fatigue in my right arm and shoulder from > using a mouse (I'm right-handed). > > I'm a graphic designer and make a living with my computer, so I couldn't > very well stop feeding my family. > > Now I use a track ball (a Kensington Orbit) and have none of that > difficulty whatsoever. > > Sometimes it's not that you have to stop doing what you're doing, but > change something a little so you're using different muscles. > > Good luck! > > Ted > > > On May 13, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > > dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the computer mouse. >> after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i had terrible pain >> in the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right hand got slow an= d >> kind of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took some serious >> conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the right hand... >> today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress build up. >> letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and massaging >> the fingers regularly has helped me, too. >> >> one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking finger joints do >> experience stress from the operation. unfortunately the movement is too >> small to trigger blood circulation and other recreative measures usually >> maintained by the body. >> this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "sms-thumb" - a >> terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for messaging. >> >> best - tilmann >> >> > --0015175ccf0c5779920469e053b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've suffered from musculoskeletal disorders in the past...=A0 nev= er again.=A0 Setting up your office properly is crucial to avoid injury.=A0= So is taking breaks, stretching, diversifying your tasks.=A0 See below for= some advice on setting up your office:
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On 5/14/09, = tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillia= n@charter.net> wrote:
Tilmann,

I'm sure oth= ers will come up with a variety of very good solutions and suggestions too.=

I used to suffer with pain and fatigue in my right arm and shoulder fro= m using a mouse (I'm right-handed).

I'm a graphic designer a= nd make a living with my computer, so I couldn't very well stop feeding= my family.

Now I use a track ball (a Kensington Orbit) and have none of that diffi= culty whatsoever.

Sometimes it's not that you have to stop doing= what you're doing, but change something a little so you're using d= ifferent muscles.

Good luck!

Ted=20



On May 13, 2= 009, at 10:08 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote:

dear fellow loopers, please be v= ery careful with the computer mouse.
after mixing a recording using almo= st only the mouse i had terrible pain in the hand and inflammation around t= he elbow. my right hand got slow and kind of numb. i changed to the left ha= nd for a year. took some serious conditioning to stop reaching for the mous= e with the right hand...
today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress build up.
le= tting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and massaging the f= ingers regularly has helped me, too.

one of the main problems is tha= t the mouse-clicking finger joints do experience stress from the operation.= unfortunately the movement is too small to trigger blood circulation and o= ther recreative measures usually maintained by the body.
this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "sms-thumb&qu= ot; - a terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for messag= ing.

best - tilmann



--0015175ccf0c5779920469e053b6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 14:48:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D25F13BE78; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 928 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:48:22 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gQy29JYk6V9uhV9PSIf4xsFrx/A3/UZfHVwV1Gqi2Rk=; b=p0G6POLYfBUjWEU47lfzRTElE1eGdm8YxwwyM/4TIy1t5Jj4nzlZucC0ib8TvTDn9f BKkGFAo7CqtosJyIn0iiLR5E+dQwHPH8RG6T7TuhmKXQjQs2Sh2bgx7uJeCKA3SfhWk7 njMbNW7L5DlPw4oYpB4ESdc4h3zv8xhXf33WM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=r0Nz3krk6/kJ5jRVvEOwr0CgbeDWPom3aeFWqTpFgFLoSBDO8VAzLVsHUtSfJWdpu9 KMCcvxropZKmSRArSUN2xavou8yMEKpZN4zbr/wKfzUeAuhmQjj1WzeLYhB6J3OzJLMj l9kqexSX28K5fkiHHLlIWopFjfiHtz2x+Bzco= Message-ID: <4A0C29C3.4020305@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:25:07 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> <8E8A2F33-E944-4417-A9C2-ACE1692F599B@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8E8A2F33-E944-4417-A9C2-ACE1692F599B@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:48:22 +0000 (UTC) RP Collier schrieb: > Might be Stockhausen. Stockhausen is more the control freak, most unlikely.... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 15:07:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDC4B3BE73; Thu, 14 May 2009 15:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 195711387/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.247.174/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.247.174 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkCAHPQC0pPRveu/2dsb2JhbAAI0SyEAgWIOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,194,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="195711387" Message-ID: <4A0C3687.6090209@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:19:35 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> <8E8A2F33-E944-4417-A9C2-ACE1692F599B@gmail.com> <4A0C29C3.4020305@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A0C29C3.4020305@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Check out the score's to "Aus den sieben Tagen" http://silakka.fi/kuva/materials/From%20the%20seven%20days.pdf Stefan Tiedje wrote: > RP Collier schrieb: >> Might be Stockhausen. > > Stockhausen is more the control freak, most unlikely.... > > Stefan > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 15:15:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0DD43BE7E; Thu, 14 May 2009 15:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=ibTCUCc2dCIolOJpfGd+oYo+vTJ7tt/UoRTKo7GboUY=; b=erQyhEijOkHmAUOF5Q7qi+zjEYvVx3W17e5zfMcSu3gLPJ89r5aZ/35gmjlrjOiZej UmgYUDrwOYTMJxLr+6sexB8rroq59U3MTCRS7qFt32KhJX8sGIR2Id8Cm1npUh6gyDpc LTMO3SKZBciGJ8pE8mahPsEsoKMS1SoCRQrL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=pJmnZRwQ4nqRbRfK4lsVW9rqFko5JM20lI1nPB8ZT1MoCxV2xILNN1+c0s5ycYxYV7 yiPxJVi3wEeoKrGBuan2HSFTwJ0aO5ZVR1fnHlpYqekdxOaSjkHw/kmV2rEgp2nFNoV/ Mrz+oLBrbKz+eOShuspmFrubBpw0pm+nNFHT4= Message-Id: <7D3FDF55-ED0A-4871-8E94-08CFFD38A9C5@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A0C29C3.4020305@googlemail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--134100466 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:06:28 -0700 References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> <8E8A2F33-E944-4417-A9C2-ACE1692F599B@gmail.com> <4A0C29C3.4020305@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:15:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--134100466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On May 14, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Stockhausen is more the control freak, most unlikely....<< Well, he was more into "composing" but he did do some aleatoric stuff and some oddball things like separated performer spaces: .... in the Helikopter-Streichquartett (the third scene ofMittwoch aus Licht), completed in 1993. In it, the four members of a string quartet perform in four helicopters flying independent flight-paths over the countryside near the concert hall. The sounds they play are mixed together with the sounds of the helicopters and played through speakers to the audience in the hall. Videos of the performers are also transmitted back to the concert hall. The performers are synchronized with the aid of a click-track, transmitted to them and heard over headphones (Stockhausen 1996c, 215). from Wikipedia I suspect you are right that it is not Stockhausen, but I have a feeling it is not Cage either. regards BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier4 --Apple-Mail-1--134100466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On May 14, 2009, = at 7:25 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

Stockhausen is more the control = freak, most = unlikely....<<



=

Well, he was more into "composing" but he did do some = aleatoric stuff and some oddball things like separated performer = spaces:

.... in the string quartet perform = in four helicopters flying = independent flight-paths over the countryside near the concert hall. The = sounds they play are mixed together with the sounds of the helicopters = and played through speakers to the audience in the hall. Videos of the = performers are also transmitted back to the concert hall. The performers = are synchronized with the aid of a click-track, transmitted to = them and heard over headphones (Stockhausen 1996c, = 215).
from = Wikipedia

I suspect you are right = that it is not Stockhausen, but I have a feeling it is not Cage = either.

regards

BobC


= --Apple-Mail-1--134100466-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 15:16:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAA273BE7F; Thu, 14 May 2009 15:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=51Oday9TSQCHTTUe3fzIczzrkmIHI2j3j/tXiQSlKd4=; b=FBCve8KIAI5isF/fkFBBbY0YWYqJe6deH9/93Epa7Wr7lrocLY3Om1ncDSBLn1ofi5 Jt88UdKZgQuWfjHhPGZq69oJoevdxrfgxMqvW/DTFklF9QrINrjZFNVovT3Q9mcA2/Fk 5m8Jvi5+RKMZldC18u2hxGDokY5jIj+DCAjsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wQbyyK936tfcelhuWWVudEfpM3Wt1JJsul9ZSXK04Di5DWZnl8DyZsjsHp8PRfiDnA M676qRK6Csjha7sVyWakvpasqRk9kUPBbSoafDVFC237hQhWCQelSFUlrOWzkQ10ZhAm KF1y3eum3t/p/6pdBJRk8JJOjPAmbXydzu5e8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90905140741j6d2ce036s25b67e88a9dea418@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> <837f6de984aa7e0a17e695cd9106fab1@charter.net> <2871c3a90905140741j6d2ce036s25b67e88a9dea418@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:16:58 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905140816y46a68a7bvd08ebb9fbd7fc45f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:16:59 +0000 (UTC) I'm really glad to see some chatter about this on THU, MAY 14, 2009 and its neither here/there but this really a fundamental on topic to us all sooner/later. I'm 53, have made most of my living moving mice since '92 plus as many have played music since I was a kid in some capacity. Knock on wood I've been pretty lucky though I do get some tendinitus or tennis elbow in my left arm occasionally as well as sometimes wrist pain. I do some random yoga and stretching and 'wrist pumps' to ward off things as well as rotating computer pos etc and if really bad a I stop playimg for a few days which is emotionally harder than hell. A violinist that has had some influence on me wrote a wonderful book for musicians called 'You Are your instrument' tjat I highly recommend. its pb and from 13.57 on amazon. Her name is julie lyonn lieberman www.amazon.com/Your-Instrument-Julie-Lyonn-Lieberman/dp/187973020= 0. Stretch stretch. Jim On 5/14/09, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I've suffered from musculoskeletal disorders in the past... never again. > Setting up your office properly is crucial to avoid injury. So is taking > breaks, stretching, diversifying your tasks. See below for some advice o= n > setting up your office: > > http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/occup-travail/checklist-aidememoire-eng.p= hp > > Sylvain > > > > On 5/14/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> >> Tilmann, >> >> I'm sure others will come up with a variety of very good solutions and >> suggestions too. >> >> I used to suffer with pain and fatigue in my right arm and shoulder from >> using a mouse (I'm right-handed). >> >> I'm a graphic designer and make a living with my computer, so I couldn't >> very well stop feeding my family. >> >> Now I use a track ball (a Kensington Orbit) and have none of that >> difficulty whatsoever. >> >> Sometimes it's not that you have to stop doing what you're doing, but >> change something a little so you're using different muscles. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Ted >> >> >> On May 13, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: >> >> dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the computer mouse. >>> after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i had terrible pai= n >>> in the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right hand got slow a= nd >>> kind of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took some serious >>> conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the right hand... >>> today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress build up. >>> letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and massaging >>> the fingers regularly has helped me, too. >>> >>> one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking finger joints do >>> experience stress from the operation. unfortunately the movement is too >>> small to trigger blood circulation and other recreative measures usuall= y >>> maintained by the body. >>> this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "sms-thumb" - = a >>> terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for messaging. >>> >>> best - tilmann >>> >>> >> > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 15:25:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60C783BE85; Thu, 14 May 2009 15:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dIvG7YQ0wvbX7dCmEAeyQiTVSRpXbnr3enWb+4t1M3Q=; b=eBW38H0pc+BXw+g6vN9V8tm5gUie3Wape0O9X+47s13Qgjz5WssU5Z3ThxL8DES0O2 S3fd9jJiFRLdBqVBSdUr6KyYyJD3Xp4cW/ESMP88iatP5lkftPAfefIQ34IaTY79/PX/ Jxwgw3/pTIPTDdQ75PStC1hN3d76G2aSzDynY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c2QqGbrFBTFJi1h8HaAjHS63JEDT4VrNd/G76Gh01d0vN0Drxhlj2JbtsIxdPAIzgt L9TUG1gZ8TC9rZEKdetrRGAEwDXG9oQgzoPCqwl+QIp/Rv+o2NsxlgSWocs8HcWLabvT 2ycDgHJKWAK9Oel/ihhaS6ld+TmeZoh4rfRFU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905140038w74060f4ep7ac9355d543e42f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> <66f9cc1e0905140038w74060f4ep7ac9355d543e42f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:24:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905140824q398c1e24k9e941fb10a7d5773@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0t_GUC.A.t4H.MfDDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:25:00 +0000 (UTC) On 5/14/09, Per Boysen wrote: > . . . Juggle over the mouse for the left hand. If that doesn't feel comfortable for you, just make some lovely caffe latta and dring it with your right hand while mousing a way with the left. And move cup far away from keybard! ;-)) After a recent shoulder injury, I switched to left hand mousing and it relieved a very long-standing inflammatory condition. (Ulnar Tunnel similar to Carpal). Bonus is that you can pound out numeric-keypad stuff and move the mouse from field to field. Another HUGE item for my lower back: After breaking it two years ago my boss bought me a Gaiam chair, which is just an inflatable ball on a rolling pedestal. I've had lower back pain for years and had to resort to chiropractic crisis management every 2-3 months. That has all gone away. No back rest removes slouching from your postural habits and your maintain more core strength cause you support yourself all the time instead of letting the chair support you. It's awesome. -m -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 15:52:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DE563BE75; Thu, 14 May 2009 15:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 14 May 2009 15:52:33 UTC X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:38:35 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08230E8CBC09@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <774809.96709.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain Thread-Index: AcnUqgr+eJXSvGFHS0KEHXdu+RON8w== References: <774809.96709.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2009 15:39:50.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[37C8B8C0:01C9D4AA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:52:33 +0000 (UTC) What we are discussing here is repetitive stress injuries. I personally = experienced a variety of right-side pain, loss of function, and numbness = - sometimes hands, sometimes wrist, sometimes elbow. There is web site that I looked at years ago and found very helpful, = probably still a good place to check out - Google "Musicians and = Injuries". Some advice and some things that I've done (not one and the same). 1. all stress on joints is exacerbated by tension that you bring to the = task; always try to be aware of that 2. the nerves run from fingers up under the elbow to the shoulder; = tendons also follow this path; it is all connected 3. Strength in the entire muscle train is therefore a great advantage 4. If, like Luis and like me, you play guitar AND work with computers, = be aware that guitar playing can put that nerve sheath on a sharp edge = outside the normal range of motion, potentially under tension... as a = small person, I have found that it is better for me to avoid large = guitars 5. I use a Wacom pen tablet rather than a mouse. Tablets have their own = effects, but for me at least are much less stressful. 6. Per's advice about spreading the task load around to other muscle = groups is spot on 7. Take breaks frequently. 8. pay attention to the ergonomics of your keyboard; consider a tray. = Likewise your chair. 9. Yoga 10. reread point no. 1 =20 Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:08 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain i dont know how you guys can explore so much software,plugins etc. it = requires hours of sitting in front of the PC and staring at the screen,i = suffer from backaches and my eyes arent the best either so for me it d = be impossible to explore all of the great stuff you guys talk about = here sometimes even the LD emails are enough for me! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Per Boysen schrieb am Do, 14.5.2009: > Von: Per Boysen > Betreff: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Donnerstag, 14. Mai 2009, 0:38 > Very important knowledge, Tilman! > What you can do as well, if having > to work hard with a computer, is to switch over to a laptop > with track > pad every second hour. Then don't click with the right > hand's index > finger but with the thumb. What I do as well is to shift > fingers and > hands all the time. Juggle over the mouse for the left > hand. If that > doesn't feel comfortable for you, just make some lovely > caffe latta > and dring it with your right hand while mousing a way with > the left. > And move cup far away from keybard! ;-))=A0 After ruing > a couple of > keyboards in the past I am today a Master Keyboard Non > Destroyer. But > my sons keep pouring milk and stuff into their machines. > Seems it > takes a couple of generations for the gene pool to adapt > properly... > (ouch, will stop typing this post now since it starts > turning into > nonsense....) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Tilmann Dehnhard = > wrote: > > dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the > computer mouse. > > after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i > had terrible pain in > > the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right > hand got slow and kind > > of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took > some serious > > conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the > right hand... > > today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and > stress build up. > > letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply > moving and massaging the > > fingers regularly has helped me, too. > > > > one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking > finger joints do > > experience stress from the operation. unfortunately > the movement is too > > small to trigger blood circulation and other > recreative measures usually > > maintained by the body. > > this was discovered when a condition surfaced called > the "sms-thumb" - a > > terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using > cellulars for messaging. > > >=20 >=20 =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 16:18:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E82F83BE73; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CcdA5T2e+SgHeOK7ZbgX+C3+v8mT02Y0/ZT/+CortRw=; b=B5l3JK9+JYjcjhR2RfWSokYnmluAyGzX24IUH49ExK85MzxysrA/y/3lojyUuONjw6 HOdoKRadnlSfzUk8U9731pFTsgedxHUPbgt9SY0K9xtG22VGIAfnaJTjDPLknVN1m4gJ r6sfQfbKfalN9v14cJGsoY67e+NN+fcEd9lok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CFkkmZfHVj1Z7EmkIpgjB/70DvLafk6HOdxIv1Y3kUTVdRzLV2tD+R5m/k9UvBkMTN q83JstHHUCRcTvaXMIiyD1TZwEtXoYp3ZvSBJeoRGEjDyYJt6zd2DG6ikeAP8TKGPwJf 4Jd4N/W7WDKk9NiSx7kfs2I9cAcmSwrrtqMYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905140816y46a68a7bvd08ebb9fbd7fc45f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> <837f6de984aa7e0a17e695cd9106fab1@charter.net> <2871c3a90905140741j6d2ce036s25b67e88a9dea418@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60905140816y46a68a7bvd08ebb9fbd7fc45f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:18:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain From: Byron Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34597f1cddd0469e1ab4e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:18:02 +0000 (UTC) --001636d34597f1cddd0469e1ab4e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I finally found one of these sitting in a guys ceiling in cape town- http://www.drumframe.com/ this is gona solve a lot of probs for me. makes to much sense to ignore. for some reason I coudnt get any response from the= m tho....not sure whats up with them I also really love my inversion table http://www.inversion.co.za/ Just clim= b on this baby and go into breathwork and you can release so much. Starting out my patients on it at the beginning of every session now and having good results. And a great lover of non-force chiropractic, kineseology and the new technique captivating my mind www.torquereleasetechnique.com(.au). This philosophy is sound But yeah Jim. Stretch stretch and more stretch but one must find the stretch, relax into it and BREATHE. If you not relaxed the stretch is compromised. And this is my all time favorite! http://www.med-advantage.de/fpz_3d.htm I hope to ship one of these units out to include in my rehab centre. Im gon= a call the therapy LOOP therapy haha I have just bought one that attaches to a trailer to take to events etc...m= y new BIZ gamble. Very excited to line the three rings with glo-toob Leds. It= s gona be a visual spectacular. Also thinking about doing a flaming human gyroscope show hehe 3 rings one man and whole lot of flaming Loopage..but that needs some thinking. but I am extremely proud to be driving around capetown with a Giant loop attached to my car hehe. For a man who has become obsessed with loops since joining this list, this brings a big smile to my face. I'll get some pics o= f the unit up sometime for you guys to check it out, and will definately stea= l someones vid cam when I set the thing a flame. Respect Byron R Howell On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > I'm really glad to see some chatter about this on THU, MAY 14, 2009 > and its neither here/there but this really a fundamental on topic to > us all sooner/later. I'm 53, have made most of my living moving mice > since '92 plus as many have played music since I was a kid in some > capacity. Knock on wood I've been pretty lucky though I do get some > tendinitus or tennis elbow in my left arm occasionally as well as > sometimes wrist pain. > > I do some random yoga and stretching and 'wrist pumps' to ward off > things as well as rotating computer pos etc and if really bad a I stop > playimg for a few days which is emotionally harder than hell. > > A violinist that has had some influence on me wrote a wonderful book > for musicians called 'You Are your instrument' tjat I highly > recommend. its pb and from 13.57 on amazon. Her name is julie lyonn > lieberman > www.amazon.com/Your-Instrument-Julie-Lyonn-Lieberman/dp/1879730200. > > Stretch stretch. > > > Jim > > On 5/14/09, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > > I've suffered from musculoskeletal disorders in the past... never agai= n. > > Setting up your office properly is crucial to avoid injury. So is taki= ng > > breaks, stretching, diversifying your tasks. See below for some advice > on > > setting up your office: > > > > > http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/occup-travail/checklist-aidememoire-eng.p= hp > > > > Sylvain > > > > > > > > On 5/14/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> > >> Tilmann, > >> > >> I'm sure others will come up with a variety of very good solutions and > >> suggestions too. > >> > >> I used to suffer with pain and fatigue in my right arm and shoulder fr= om > >> using a mouse (I'm right-handed). > >> > >> I'm a graphic designer and make a living with my computer, so I couldn= 't > >> very well stop feeding my family. > >> > >> Now I use a track ball (a Kensington Orbit) and have none of that > >> difficulty whatsoever. > >> > >> Sometimes it's not that you have to stop doing what you're doing, but > >> change something a little so you're using different muscles. > >> > >> Good luck! > >> > >> Ted > >> > >> > >> On May 13, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > >> > >> dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the computer mouse. > >>> after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i had terrible > pain > >>> in the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right hand got slow > and > >>> kind of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took some seriou= s > >>> conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the right hand... > >>> today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress build up. > >>> letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and massagi= ng > >>> the fingers regularly has helped me, too. > >>> > >>> one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking finger joints do > >>> experience stress from the operation. unfortunately the movement is t= oo > >>> small to trigger blood circulation and other recreative measures > usually > >>> maintained by the body. > >>> this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "sms-thumb" = - > a > >>> terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for messagin= g. > >>> > >>> best - tilmann > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > --001636d34597f1cddd0469e1ab4e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I finally found one of these sitting in a guys ceiling in cape town-http://www.drumframe.com/ =A0this is gon= a solve a lot of probs for me. makes to much sense to ignore. for some reas= on I coudnt get any response from them tho....not sure whats up with them
I also really love my inversion table=A0http://www.inversion.co.za/ Just climb on this baby= and go into breathwork and you can release so much. Starting out my patien= ts on it at the beginning of every session now and having good results.

And a great lover of non-force chiropractic, kineseolog= y and the new technique captivating my mind www.torquereleasetechnique.com(.au). This philosophy= is sound

But yeah Jim. Stretch stretch and more stretch but one = must find the stretch, relax into it and BREATHE. If you not relaxed the st= retch is compromised.=A0

And this is my all time f= avorite!=A0http://www.me= d-advantage.de/fpz_3d.htm
I hope to ship one of these units out to include in my rehab centre. I= m gona call the therapy LOOP therapy haha

I have j= ust bought one that attaches to a trailer to take to events etc...my new BI= Z gamble. Very excited to line the three rings with glo-toob Leds. Its gona= be a visual spectacular. Also thinking about doing a flaming human gyrosco= pe show hehe 3 rings one man and whole lot of flaming Loopage..but that nee= ds some thinking.

but I am extremely proud to be driving around capetown = with a Giant loop attached to my car hehe. For a man who has become obsesse= d with loops since joining this list, this brings a big smile to my face. I= 'll get some pics of the unit up sometime for you guys to check it out,= and will definately steal someones vid cam when I set the thing a flame.

Respect

Byron R Howell





On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.= com> wrote:
I'm really glad to see some chatter abo= ut this on THU, MAY 14, 2009
and its neither here/there but this really a fundamental on topic to
us all sooner/later. =A0I'm 53, have made most of my living moving mice=
since '92 plus as many have played music since I was a kid in some
capacity. =A0Knock on wood I've been pretty lucky though I do get some<= br> tendinitus or tennis elbow in my left arm occasionally as well as
sometimes wrist pain.

I do some random yoga and stretching and 'wrist pumps' to ward off<= br> things as well as rotating computer pos etc and if really bad a I stop
playimg for a few days which is emotionally harder than hell.

A violinist that has had some influence on me wrote a wonderful book
for musicians called 'You Are your instrument' tjat I highly
recommend. =A0its pb and from 13.57 on amazon. =A0Her name is julie lyonn lieberman www.amazon.com/Your-Instrument-Julie= -Lyonn-Lieberman/dp/1879730200.

Stretch stretch.


Jim

On 5/14/09, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've suffered from musculoskeletal disorders in the past... =A0nev= er again.
> Setting up your office properly is crucial to avoid injury. =A0So is t= aking
> breaks, stretching, diversifying your tasks. =A0See below for some adv= ice on
> setting up your office:
>
> http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/occup-t= ravail/checklist-aidememoire-eng.php
>
> Sylvain
>
>
>
> On 5/14/09, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> Tilmann,
>>
>> I'm sure others will come up with a variety of very good solut= ions and
>> suggestions too.
>>
>> I used to suffer with pain and fatigue in my right arm and shoulde= r from
>> using a mouse (I'm right-handed).
>>
>> I'm a graphic designer and make a living with my computer, so = I couldn't
>> very well stop feeding my family.
>>
>> Now I use a track ball (a Kensington Orbit) and have none of that<= br> >> difficulty whatsoever.
>>
>> Sometimes it's not that you have to stop doing what you're= doing, but
>> change something a little so you're using different muscles. >>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On May 13, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote:
>>
>> dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the computer mous= e.
>>> after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i had ter= rible pain
>>> in the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right hand g= ot slow and
>>> kind of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took some= serious
>>> conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the right han= d...
>>> today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress bu= ild up.
>>> letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and = massaging
>>> the fingers regularly has helped me, too.
>>>
>>> one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking finger joi= nts do
>>> experience stress from the operation. unfortunately the moveme= nt is too
>>> small to trigger blood circulation and other recreative measur= es usually
>>> maintained by the body.
>>> this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "= ;sms-thumb" - a
>>> terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for m= essaging.
>>>
>>> best - tilmann
>>>
>>>
>>
>


--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmu= sic.com
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
www.mys= pace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.c= om/jindream
www.you= tube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vim= eo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twi= tter.com/jimgoodinmusic


--001636d34597f1cddd0469e1ab4e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 16:24:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0CCF3BE7E; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mZ2TkHiKK9ALmmei4PrPlZU4XCrj3L/AjqVq8eMLBgY=; b=uWNwVQfozzdqEcn2lWRf8IaFSnU15HW1IbA3UG14WMgNz4iYi4hele70idzghsP8Ch bzszS7H0AI6jOYa7aNJjprO5DXTPqqvlT52wGn+fTQ0bw7djJuiIeKeVqR1GIKDeqLY1 EyviLro4H+/RVwIPZVQHsBftNatQKiv7zRT04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QLrjTK4DJprGvRDoxh6NJfYkVA/0TgY9MKF0aoh+qGMcFBaYdJ9qi/KuLI3LwF8Aq6 QifBLhwXtzymtm3uQKgRUMtop4MqO0v6usR5gDD0vmEHe4Bb2QcZWtva1AWCexc9sf1w EbjG2U7NKZG8m6gcTIXGC6cKBrGCEneKghMgo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:24:58 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905140924k204cf837ke052b1af634cf658@mail.gmail.com> Subject: In search of a XP program which generates MIDI CCs out of mouse clicks From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Again, I'm searching for something odd: For something I can't tell you about yet, I need a program which does the following: * runs on XP * takes command of a mouse, trackball or other HID device (e.g. mobile phone via bluetooth in "desktop" mode) * "taking command" means: the mouse/trackball/whatever can no longer be used to move a cursor on the screen etc. * assigns MIDI messages (CCs, Notes) to button presses (e.g. left mouse button is CC13 Value 127, then CC13 Value 0 after 50ms - ESC on keyboard is Note 23, velocity 127 for 50ms etc.)) * Sends them out to a MIDI output of my choice. * optional: Assigns MIDI CCs to the controller's X/Y axis. Is there anything like that? I'm especially after the buttons, not so much after the X/Y axis. Thanks, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 16:34:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BADC13BE81; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KTPOs2ltZDg0RNlB+VrdRZxFDp+aL6kRhSkF5i+yOdI=; b=CmlOckU4lt1K55ql2zHn75S03HqER5EIPnUUO5a8ug9lHHjUJUulvZwKwtkqxa8Oio lH+wgGSyQhMw0LbBjTDNBQQovP4+ixn+APp+vARhYzOgvaxmM8TV1DL041kaHYE35FzO 65+r0tB8ec22f24aMHDnNcVu09TamyMPp6PdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FvQ6vbylwK7s4OCPbdcbjk++v+SPob+jSO8zUcWIeAz4bDpamS5/OA+7a9IguDtqJ1 AmYFuVw7tp6xeLj4iB5dkqAM1Pgc5hfttDyjChmuoKxz6LibY3Jado0uHtMgvE8Pne6H Ku+0zHn0PO8AOCdE1K/Z/TYr0RIbM1uO7GxRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <13D5CEFFE0F2484D8D271BF55F3B9812@supercomputer> References: <13D5CEFFE0F2484D8D271BF55F3B9812@supercomputer> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:34:36 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905140934h15def383g8c06a11274c872aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GNX4 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a82f5c97370469e1e766 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a82f5c97370469e1e766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve I came up empty handed here but maybe someone else more senior on the list can explain. All I know is it's like that for me too meaning until someone responds to something I post I never see the post but in theory I think it's by design to minimize clutter, my 2 cents... welcome again jim ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... www.myspace.com/ctreuse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a82f5c97370469e1e766 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve I came up empty handed here but maybe someone else more senior o= n the list can explain.=A0 All I know is it's like that for me too mean= ing until someone responds to something I post I never see the post but in = theory I think it's by design to minimize clutter, my 2 cents...
=A0
welcome again
=A0
jim
=A0
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
=A0
video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
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--001636c5a82f5c97370469e1e766-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 16:39:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64BF73BE7C; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242319148; bh=9Ck3Dz81vYUBzV2IvY8oNKRfW5QqtS+V+HqLruPBjSI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MUg6nw6XLmrzSWCllxHAc/DxhpwWA9duElscZ+7Al9QHSVVE/KctD7ftYmyrQ/1ofxsGg8O5D5UxswhiyuJTu64Eq1Naq8jZSuYKV1BuWjcIeOfCzzmjgKCMAEFNC9G8u6LS9sbc4mLwJheZr4Ib8CrZFStQMUTZgBTwmLOW7/Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EBIHFh0ln/PWKUfv1hZQ6mk4ztUsbNbx8P/zmkmcxpnUotcRbffXI2txCxA3c6BUFbq7W5XIN+TotJ/cs9TE/Q21EzOTaVjlGOsBfKzxMa3cIU8nPGaBwNX11gEu+uB5LXe6FdSStVyt/6qOToR6GBJqGPOro83kAOUSsFp33n0=; Message-ID: <310699.64880.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: x9..EBcVM1mCIeUfsBLYJr2T6iCC0Ghof0akhu6opDz3zpYHXs3JCQ1gjrqrJXr1233SI5RmKh90d2kFx_YkX5vjDN_rcJfE_foSv5V88e0RhWeOMoAhiBLADoohM3tkhOE4ooGWC2zDC_2rES8QlULjfnJHbR89I3_3lXyu0uhjyg4fp5r491dxNoUwZqyTR6clV7OyoSjdqtQd_BGWjz8VOknV1GfC0YCqGJxc7pKxwTF1c.4UoEMSBLVph1InW5NUyG8FA6JGcwW8jw_mhHgjBHw6t.KCQ8dzaUjB93so7OSOnP9C2joDPwBHCI3S_jF00jqBZdGFg7RR9NM2oOGHo_NbiJj0L8jv3m.gKY7nuRSM85lCcA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: OT: Eivind Aarset guitar followup & adrian belew's parker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-518612247-1242319148=:64880" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:39:15 +0000 (UTC) --0-518612247-1242319148=:64880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii brief followup to Eivind Aarset's guitar question- i believe in the profile of him in the guitar player mag a yr or 2 ago, it said that he has a piezo installed under neck where it joins the body (I think)-and that allows for some different sounds that he uses/exploits. that always intrigued me.... as for the A belew parker-yea, it's pricey and way over what i'd consider, but wasn't there some blurb a few yrs ago that fender turned down his request for a signature model b/c he wasn't high-profile enough (or was that just internet chatter/rumor?)? i mean he's responsible for some of the most innovative sounds in the last 25 yrs...i think he deserves a break... his new guitar looks cool-and i'm sure it works great for him. funny thing is to see him play w/ humbucker guitar-he always seemed to be a single coil strat guy to me, and he definately got great sounds out of his guitars..... s---- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...03632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...61416906&hl=en --0-518612247-1242319148=:64880 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
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brief followup to Eivind Aarset's guitar question-
i believe in the profile of him in the guitar player mag a yr or 2 ago, it said that he has a piezo installed under neck where it joins the body (I think)-and that allows for some different sounds that he uses/exploits.

that always intrigued me....

as for the A belew parker-yea, it's pricey and way over what i'd consider, but wasn't there some blurb a few yrs ago that fender turned down his request for a signature model b/c he wasn't high-profile enough (or was that just internet chatter/rumor?)? i mean he's responsible for some of the most innovative sounds in the last 25 yrs...i think he deserves a break...
his new guitar looks cool-and i'm sure it works great for him.
funny thing is to see him play w/ humbucker guitar-he always seemed to be a single coil strat guy to me, and he definately got great sounds out of his guitars.....
s----
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...03632389016121
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...61416906&hl=en


--0-518612247-1242319148=:64880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 17:39:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C08343BE71; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FrAsb21+Xc1k0IayiPeoNePMpzHI0rORg+dudZkorNw=; b=XshH60DIeoL427rvdEJ+f0jCRyWXLSfAyXzfYCkg2KpCkQq8PnSHRCPLoJdMln4V4A vClcZe7GYWEla3Wn88uIQllgGaMAkQ2L4cmYDdYEzMTAPU22/2PqRDcqjKhQ9ra2W9d1 gDDgublTDv3MD8EW1s9lyP60f98OMIH9rBDWU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Lf9ueCsW+fe4cjaFK0Cqua3XrUoL578L0k5ao7lMzztljGkjwLW0G0bsedoni9nOht xGQyLgGM5aSpWMt9jEQ8K6fkuMc+OBBLEhf89rgea8IySmaeuk/HyGaU3Cr755bw6b04 VV6iHak479FwfEkegtXUgUSh+MGknFdwi2NLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:39:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: was back pain, now mouse-hand pain From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Those were exactly my symptoms (as well as bad shoulder blade area pain). Buy the book. :) I just heard an interview of Tom Bergeron and he had the exact same experience after reading the Sarno stuff. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > dear fellow loopers, please be very careful with the computer mouse. > after mixing a recording using almost only the mouse i had terrible pain in > the hand and inflammation around the elbow. my right hand got slow and kind > of numb. i changed to the left hand for a year. took some serious > conditioning to stop reaching for the mouse with the right hand... > today i am able to switch hands whenever fatigue and stress build up. > letting go of the mouse when not in use and simply moving and massaging the > fingers regularly has helped me, too. > > one of the main problems is that the mouse-clicking finger joints do > experience stress from the operation. unfortunately the movement is too > small to trigger blood circulation and other recreative measures usually > maintained by the body. > this was discovered when a condition surfaced called the "sms-thumb" - a > terrible stinging pain in the thumb from using cellulars for messaging. > > best - tilmann > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 18:59:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC4BF3BE78; Thu, 14 May 2009 18:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090513201426.TC7WS.2656859.root@mp06> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Hardware Lawn Sale X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:59:35 -0700 References: <20090513201426.TC7WS.2656859.root@mp06> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the thoughts, and enjoy your recuperation, Ted. My lawn =20 sale's entirely virtual anyway, but a visit anytime would be welcome, =20= altho the guitar artifacts continue to wither away, in favor of =20 painting. Best, dpc 1096 Winchuck River Road Brookings, OR 97415 541-728-0634 (Note new phone #!) On May 13, 2009, at 5:14 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > David, > > Hmmmm . . . > > You don't particularly have anything that's especially on my "wish =20 > list" there . . . but I'm tempted to come to your "garage sale" =20 > just to meet you (the VG master) in-person finally anyway (LOL). > > It'd be worth a drive to the coast just for that. > > However my wife tells me my "honey do" list has grown the last few =20 > weeks while I've been sick. > > Oh well. > > Godd luck with the sale! > > Ted > > > ---- David Coffin wrote: >> Greetings, folks >> >> Cleaning house, time to find new homes for a lot of no longer used =20= >> but >> still works fine stuff. Have all manuals (if pert.), but probably not >> original packaging. All used only in no-smoking home studio; No >> reasonable offers refused; need to clear out ASAP, Paypal, buyer pays >> shipping: >> >> Mackie 1604 VLZ Mixer >> Presonus Firebox Audio interface w/ 2 6-ft Monster Studiolink 500 XLR >> cables >> Boss DD-20 GigaDelay >> Third-Hand pedal (for turning knobs on stomp boxes with your foot) >> Edirol UM550 MIDI Interface >> Roland FC-200 MIDI pedal >> Behringer Ultramizer Pro Limiter (goes in front of:) >> Sony CDRW33 Pro CD Recorder w/ wired remote >> Aphex 105 4-Channel Gate >> Vox Tonelab tabletop preamp/modeller/FX >> Line6 PodXT preamp/modeller/FX >> Yamaha DG-Stomp preamp/modeller/FX >> Alesis ModFX: Ampliton, SmashUp, Faze w/ adapters >> 2 Ernie Ball Stereo Volume pedals: 1 25K ohm, 1 volume/pan >> >> >> Thanks! >> dpc >> 1096 Winchuck River Road >> Brookings, OR 97415 >> 541-728-0634 >> >> >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 19:01:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BED393BE71; Thu, 14 May 2009 19:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 670 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 14 May 2009 19:01:56 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20090513154339.J0PNB.2614593.root@mp15> <4A0BA749.2030709@dehnhard.com> <837f6de984aa7e0a17e695cd9106fab1@charter.net> <2871c3a90905140741j6d2ce036s25b67e88a9dea418@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60905140816y46a68a7bvd08ebb9fbd7fc45f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--120681090 Message-Id: <78549AA0-43E8-4241-8A2C-43BE21C76A7A@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: back pain Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:50:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:01:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--120681090 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On May 14, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Byron Howell wrote: > > I also really love my inversion table http://www.inversion.co.za/ > Just climb on this baby and go into breathwork and you can release > so much. Starting out my patients on it at the beginning of every > session now and having good results. I have been using a very similar, free-standing A-frame inversion device, off and on for over 25 years, and can also say they are really great if used properly. My mother bought me one that long ago as a B-day present and it was one of the greatest gifts ever from her, other than her giving me Life itself. Thanx Mom! :-) Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-3--120681090 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On May 14, 2009, at = 9:18 AM, Byron Howell wrote:

I also really love my inversion = table=A0http://www.inversion.co.za/ = Just climb on this baby and go into breathwork and you can release so = much. Starting out my patients on it at the beginning of every session = now and having good results.

I have = been using a very similar, free-standing A-frame inversion device, off = and on for over 25 years, and can also say they are really great if used = properly.=A0
My mother bought me one that long ago=A0as a = B-day present and it was one of the greatest gifts ever from her, other = than her giving me Life itself. Thanx Mom! =A0:-)
Cheers,
Rev = Fever

= --Apple-Mail-3--120681090-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 14 22:43:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 446203BE73; Thu, 14 May 2009 22:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:43:25 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090514224325.185570@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Jaco cool loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX184jcZbkM04MfkNDpL+rp/BLm9T+vhBbq3f8SnuU+ ae0dRN38AkyHf+jRcxlA+hVldJpSYjhXPz+g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: uaw7fRQxbGInR9BtlmVnrGJvcmZ1Zhz6 X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Resent-Message-ID: <9X_vu.A.R6B.P6JDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks this is a video few of you probably already know. It's a solo performance including a loop from his tour with Joni Mitchell in 1980 (one of my most favorite live recordings). It's not the most sophisticated looping performance. However, he's just so cool on stage while looping... Anyway, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxZWvhGE7CM enjoy buzap PS: any idea on what gear he is using? What's there in his rack? -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 00:05:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDB073BE77; Fri, 15 May 2009 00:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A0CB1DA.9070303@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:05:46 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:05:52 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Blind Watchers of a Vanishing Night" on EH Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#may Also on tonight's show will be music by Richard Lainhart, Holosphere, John Duval, and CitizenGreen. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 00:16:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F18403BE73; Fri, 15 May 2009 00:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 394 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 15 May 2009 00:16:35 UTC Message-Id: <63BCC742-4EEC-4D51-9BC0-B517B29F3136@steve-lawson.co.uk> From: Steve Lawson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: lots of video using the new Quantise replace feature... Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 01:09:59 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:16:35 +0000 (UTC) just in case any of y'all are interested, I've posted 6 videos (so far) of new experiments, trying out the quantise replace stuff in the Looperlative: http://vimeo.com/solobasssteve/videos enjoy Steve Where to find me on the web - _______________________ ********************************* *** www.stevelawson.net - shiny new site *** www.stevelawson.net/blog - blog *** www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson *** www.reverbnation.com/stevelawson *** www.twitter.com/solobasssteve *** http://www.youtube.com/user/StevieSteve46 - loads of new video here! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 00:45:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B246F3BE77; Fri, 15 May 2009 00:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=CmAQS5uem9fiPa1xUzGJp/tv6V4aBTxcOq2WpZoin28=; b=dKBdNT4INFkOWKh1t1i7IwlkgJbQHmh5kk+TUNocyZTrJYodIAbr/U25JNjm0+yl+I mY3urs5KcdeHn9MkKzKAnscMxu04CTlKaV6CpWnDEcjvcZMtn0NRcgLMU/Pf9fPvGlC2 DJiJjgRLCrplDJzlNnficSSMZI5jzV3VXUpWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=iS8daqBSpEVtMzq8tJAJcOJq5rXZso+WMcZQaoC/iQZyfXoyVAlip/Scj+pqaQY/gq 0khfcIiPEsEVBxUrUAObeMfr7kop6/aQiUFJFUWS5idqBgIsySCahNftuaUN0KPYlGxv AiNtI9/q2IroxxWHq8VBk5HRcGpQBTwfjLCmc= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Daniel Hegarty Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 01:45:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: EDP and Logic Glitches To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a82f8ab55c0469e8c3b9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:45:42 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a82f8ab55c0469e8c3b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, I'm running into a few problems controlling multiple EDPs from Logic. As it stands I'm running 4 EDPs from sequenced tracks in logic via a MOTU express 128. On the most part this works beautifully, everything records, overdubs, reverses and mutes etc, in perfect time and is really solid. However, once in a while I experience one of two issues. I should say that this is tested during a single 30 minutes track with a live band with a couple of hundred midi commands being sent to the various EDPs over the course of the track. - Problem 1 - An EDP will simply miss a command. A record or an overdub will be missed. Not the end of the world but annoying. - Problem 2 - All 4 EDPs will just stop receiving commands, and will remain unresponsive until i stop the track and restart. The fact that all 4 EDPs go down simultaneously makes me think that the issue is not with them, but with the transmission of midi to them. It's hard to pinpoint because there is no discernible pattern to when the problems arise. I think perhaps it is at points when the sequencer is playing demanding soft synths in live mode, but it's hard to be sure. Any thoughts or ideas would be very gratefully received. I've become too reliant on these things and a freeze up could be pretty ugly on stage! :) Thanks Daniel --001636c5a82f8ab55c0469e8c3b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all,

I'm running into a few problems controlling= multiple EDPs from Logic.

As it stands I'm ru= nning 4 EDPs from sequenced tracks in logic via a MOTU express 128. On the = most part this works beautifully, everything records, overdubs, reverses an= d mutes etc, in perfect time and is really solid. However, once in a while = I experience one of two issues. I should say that this is tested during a s= ingle 30 minutes track with a live band with a couple of hundred midi comma= nds being sent to the various EDPs over the course of the track.

  • Problem 1 - An EDP will simply miss a command. = A record or an overdub will be missed. Not the end of the world but annoyin= g.
  • Problem 2 - All 4 EDPs will just stop receiving commands, and wi= ll remain unresponsive until i stop the track and restart.
The fact that all 4 EDPs go down simultaneously makes me think th= at the issue is not with them, but with the transmission of midi to them. I= t's hard to pinpoint because there is no discernible pattern to when th= e problems arise. I think perhaps it is at points when the sequencer is pla= ying demanding soft synths in live mode, but it's hard to be sure.

Any thoughts or ideas would be very gratefully received= . I've become too reliant on these things and a freeze up could be pret= ty ugly on stage! :)

Thanks
Daniel
--001636c5a82f8ab55c0469e8c3b9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 00:56:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 488033BE7C; Fri, 15 May 2009 00:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 15 May 2009 00:56:26 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242348585; bh=0y+3ceGVhC6fLTq7qqsxfXzwe5Dow1PfWnPre9aoqgc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6NGc4Vb37NSBPxWwh3Yd/eRhhu+2Uh+Eeh85q9I0hXZv2tt26oR8Yny4x2qQjaNiGGbK/LkuqNANIYkquckOj7ZsmflnqZJgWRc9Ge+ZuQmkWbT0y08en9X8XIBrnR6KoZhPYHGuIjal+qaW3NCZSQKJYG0QaYh4qP2vtjZ699o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rW+s8CIei2AXr044erzpL0yQWK6P0zDJSNoTNtwBvJ+++zWK7phjAsGrkyDk0YkAf2SiqLWKhIaQfYKoOJYcHzNvFIx5c2zEqWjju/peJc3tb1UKXsE9X6rQCp9XGVWgHWCkGP47T3DpOQIiVhJorDt3FuhpPN9OMsSlT8tqKCk=; Message-ID: <16321.27835.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1tBoAeIVM1nuxtaxbtHExYIceqV8xa4hwJQ3c2uKUjD.6Ke538dZTt7v67xW1Vd0k9r5fQ8hkxICpz70QTnDxAUdkiL7cf_V2Jk1HdrnDKFoIMPgi2vAPduFE4xf8bEeFMuB5LWAfKEQhWc5fCte1RXuMRMAGZ079G97W9glxftv2DhFBbMq2UVRUuZsPIgrzgWNHJZ6uqXARAU_sqnA_PrYgHsu573Asrh_t2y856WvFi90CTW82ktgyXsfiuQ.PTEnT6Gum7ZJL6LkO4As4OZHmrUEv2jLyLBzSZlXKxzbfsKeSQvPgBXk4LaXRdPko0D_aXeQN6pGxsXB X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:49:44 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Jaco cool loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1733421780-1242348584=:27835" Resent-Message-ID: <55h9XD.A.TQC.72LDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:56:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-1733421780-1242348584=:27835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My best guess is that he's got two MXR digital delays - http://guitargeek.c= om/gearview/293/ - running into his usual Acoustic 360's. Check the "amplification, effects, and string" paragraph on Jaco's wikipedi= a page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaco_Pastorius ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Buzap Buzap wrote: From: Buzap Buzap Subject: Jaco cool loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 3:43 PM Hi folks this is a video few of you probably already know. It's a solo performance including a loop from his tour with Joni Mitchell i= n 1980 (one of my most favorite live recordings). It's not the most sophisticated looping performance. However, he's just so = cool on stage while looping... Anyway, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAxZWvhGE7CM enjoy buzap PS: any idea on what gear he is using? What's there in his rack? --=20 Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschlus= s f=FCr nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac= =3DOM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AMake your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet= Explorer=AE 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloa= ds.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ --0-1733421780-1242348584=:27835 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My best guess is that he's got two MXR di= gital delays - http://guitargeek.com/gearview/293/ - running into his usual= Acoustic 360's.

Check the "amplification, effects, and string" para= graph on Jaco's wikipedia page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaco_Pastoriu= s


ted h.
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From: Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net= >
Subject: Jaco cool loop
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>Received: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 3:43 PM

Hi folks

this is a video few of you probably already know.
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It's not the most sophisticat= ed looping performance. However, he's just so cool on stage while looping..= .
Anyway, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAxZWvhGE7CM<= br>
enjoy
buzap

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--0-1733421780-1242348584=:27835-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 02:30:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 014E03BE78; Fri, 15 May 2009 02:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3764 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 15 May 2009 02:30:45 UTC Message-Id: From: jayrope LD To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090515000553.75B4A3BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: In search of a XP program which generates MIDI CCs out of mouse clicks Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 03:27:55 +0200 References: <20090515000553.75B4A3BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, Max/Msp. Should be easy to program. - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On May 15, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > In search of a XP program which generates MIDI CCs out of mouse clicks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 02:56:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADE6B3BE77; Fri, 15 May 2009 02:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; bh=4cL7WMWEx0T7mldwk/pKjEDPPHMc9LnwKateNdsZmuQ=; b=P/38LUEKBIun/0DjMUBXap+drWSvhM+TVU7inqfMrJYekLevjyAmxAMaU47inRrHU/ OtIuxWaCevB+y50yeUUvYa7ytziqSCgCNcyRN9CdtpPL37n6ws5KnNBh25GexRrdc8hV LxApDK4+9F0Bus4D12dlF/OjM6ozq790j4HVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date :references:x-mailer; b=XHRdXbAEUwwGx2GwpICOep52GTjcr76fhQ5SZ7KMTnSm68gO4A4+dc33+afHrMnhUL FlquYQRPBxCRz7gb2RsypdA0iOZljxzQmZb3CSemkUHaO+y2uE6sGq8/PN9oF9aNRcJh z3yOcEOeEnzlnfykXo/TAPOePjbghln+i0N7o= Message-Id: <3F89AECB-3DE4-4C49-B962-AD7E24D2C6F3@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090514224325.185570@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Jaco cool loop X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:56:13 -0300 References: <20090514224325.185570@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Fantastic! Third stone fromt the sun.. isn't it? Amazing. On May 14, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > this is a video few of you probably already know. > It's a solo performance including a loop from his tour with Joni =20 > Mitchell in 1980 (one of my most favorite live recordings). > > It's not the most sophisticated looping performance. However, he's =20 > just so cool on stage while looping... > Anyway, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAxZWvhGE7CM > > enjoy > buzap > > PS: any idea on what gear he is using? What's there in his rack? > --=20 > Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + =20 > Telefonanschluss f=FCr nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* = http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=3DOM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 05:03:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D6CC3BE77; Fri, 15 May 2009 05:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 15 May 2009 05:03:19 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:57:49 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T and the Low String Ladies + guests 119 Gallery, May 16 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I'm happy to announce this upcoming event with one new and two old musical friends. Doctor T and the Low String Ladies at a wonderful gallery and performance space, 119 Gallery in Lowell, MA. Doctor T -- Video Mixing Karen (Wisteriax) Langlie -- cello and electronics. Glynis (Dragonwoman) Lomon -- cello and voice. with special guests Noam Sender -- Percussion, Voice, Ney Dave Peck -- Clarinets Glynis and Karen have been two of my favorite collaborators over the last few years. Each is a stunning improvisational cellist, Karen coming from an electronica and sound art background, while Glynis plays what is often called "Energy Jazz", as befits her screen name Dragonwoman. I've been eager to do a performance with the two of them together for quite some time. I met Noam recently when he played with Chillgroove at a show I did at the Lilypad in early April. He is a sensitive and sonically imaginative player, and I decided that he would be an excellent addition to this ensemble. Noam Sender performs with a variety of ensembles in the Boston area. I've never played with Dave, who is a long time collaborator with Glynis, who writes "He's expert at playing with improvising cellists!" 8 PM $10 donation - serious mind enhancement or your money back. Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. http://www.119gallery.org/ 119 Gallery, 119 Chelmsford St, Lowell MA 01851 978-452-8138 Brief Bio Note: Doctor T (Emile Tobenfeld) has been performing visual improvisations with live music since 1973. He has performed with musicians and bands including The Lothars, New Language Collaborative, Ras Moshe, Neil Leonard, Dennis Shafer, Todd Brunel, Dennis Warren, and many more. He has also worked with dancers, including Claire Barratt and Joe Burgio, and poet John Mulroooney. He performs frequently at venues such as 119 Gallery in Lowell, His improvisations feature DVD's of his own video, photography and animation, which he mixes live in response to the sounds and actions of the performers he is working with. His visual material explores and blurs the boundary between realism and abstraction, and his "Visual Music" performances combine imagery and music into a unified immersive and evocative media experience. Examples of his video art can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 06:05:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD6E03BE7F; Fri, 15 May 2009 06:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 412 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 15 May 2009 06:05:24 UTC Reply-To: From: "Tim Thompson" To: , "'Rainer Straschill'" References: <20090515000553.57BB53BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20090515000553.57BB53BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: RE: In search of a XP program which generates MIDI CCs out of mouse clicks Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:58:27 -0700 Message-ID: <107c01c9d522$2bb471a0$831d54e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcnU8QVshUJMQzErSIu5mIU7fmxaKAAL4yrg Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 06:05:24 +0000 (UTC) > Is there anything like that? I'm especially after the buttons, not so much after the X/Y axis. A game controller would probably be one of your more flexible options - a USB one can be had for less than $10. Accessing a game controller's buttons/analog-joysticks, as well as the programming of the realtime logic and MIDI messages you mentioned, would be trivial in keykit (see http://nosuch.com/keykit ) - a few dozen lines of code for everything, and I can help with an initial template that you can modify. Email me directly if you want to explore that path. ...Tim...tjt@nosuch.com... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 07:42:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6CC73BE78; Fri, 15 May 2009 07:42:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 199430801/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.205.195/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.205.195 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjcCAKe5DEpPTs3D/2dsb2JhbAAIkF69bIQEBYg5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,198,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="199430801" Message-ID: <4A0D1FB4.1090500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:54:28 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jaco cool loop References: <20090514224325.185570@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090514224325.185570@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:42:42 +0000 (UTC) Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > this is a video few of you probably already know. > It's a solo performance including a loop from his tour with Joni Mitchell in 1980 (one of my most favorite live recordings). > > It's not the most sophisticated looping performance. Unless you really think about how achieves a perfectly in time loop with a fixed delay length. Watch carefully, some of that showmanship is very carefully considered. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 08:33:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA5583BE7C; Fri, 15 May 2009 08:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/e6Py+1qEgHg6uM/lUk/8lJPXdfMTfNxCK9HimY3PbI=; b=BGZkKoBEk4DuaCjwkhpCQZmwXIeekl5v7f4LPQFddrDaueqp34KNbERUGgNFyJpvvC SPjy4/GucYjVhXkp6wVvj+ewHYYKSXfNAdJB1EIddmlzmewfusmTmrEezKUK+rLDgKI0 GHDeQD+xDOb0IAQJpTYN8w1j2AZwJFsmv4LEA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fSYrlwX9i7B6b+UD3kxjYzPvAPjI3c0mcD9leC4GX+FxL3OM6/tLXVviJRsN6LCT/K EisySHZCZ06JkGmOoLXIeMwrNwsZW7WRIwjbqwEHmJgdw9YJwAV8ccYqLQk7zjCdmF7T z/tPf/pqicqTrhsLO+CN8anzRMRadk/B2SGQI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:33:19 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <56sjXC.A.Ae.PjSDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:33:19 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > I think perhaps it is at points when the sequencer is playing demanding soft > synths in live mode, but it's hard to be sure. You shouldn't use an Instrument Track in Logic for this. Better using an External MIDI Track. When I did this once, I ran the EDP in quantize mode and "pre-delayed" all my MIDI streams going out of Logic, through the physical MIDI port and cable into the EDP. That fix makes sure every little bit of MIDI gets to the EDP in time - you know, MIDI is a serial protocol. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 11:02:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B73C33BE78; Fri, 15 May 2009 11:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=5SwkOWEOWDrPB+CM0Ilf3B+Gyb/CTUWZlNNRYVFma1o=; b=c8viVR6eVUTsm9AK3P5WfIU7z0FPhQaNFnyKZKqEJ/FsryW2G3azM/oysEaXC78xSg Jdf/F0uQvnutxtdhtqhIJraJ4Ts6fm+WoS4+/RLJ+gLGtOwZQl8KEj5cp6iOO22Zb8YY F52Mt17CfjofNvGZ4272zhgMILA9hpnw1VlEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=KwpQbkWZXcpoCZV8TRD8CE7GmLMAlWB57QS7vUzikAv7UvPmuJOXqulW7oDuK0/+/B mTFBG7kN3y6m9vpLCjGUP+BQIhGIY1Q5krbDhhYIKWbMmKfm5+SXRRCwT9YEz1IH1wyu hkFdv2m5s7dQX1ams7qQHKhkc0dSrY125+nIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Hegarty Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:01:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b496558b6d0469f160bc Resent-Message-ID: <3IAvQB.A.XJE.1uUDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:02:13 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b496558b6d0469f160bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Per, I just double checked and i'm definitely using external midi tracks. I gave some thought to serial protocol element when i was initially programming, and tried to make sure i never sent simultaneous signals just to be on the safe side. It seems so odd because there is no latency issue, just these intermittent dropouts..... It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to bother sending the signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am running quite a lot off just a macbook pro. Thanks for the advice. Daniel 2009/5/15 Per Boysen > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Daniel Hegarty > wrote: > > I think perhaps it is at points when the sequencer is playing demanding > soft > > synths in live mode, but it's hard to be sure. > > > You shouldn't use an Instrument Track in Logic for this. Better using > an External MIDI Track. When I did this once, I ran the EDP in > quantize mode and "pre-delayed" all my MIDI streams going out of > Logic, through the physical MIDI port and cable into the EDP. That fix > makes sure every little bit of MIDI gets to the EDP in time - you > know, MIDI is a serial protocol. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --001636c5b496558b6d0469f160bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Per,

I just double checked and i'm definitely usi= ng external midi tracks. I gave some thought to serial protocol element whe= n i was=A0initially=A0programming, and tried to make sure i never sent simu= ltaneous signals just to be on the safe side. It seems so odd because there= is no latency issue, just these intermittent dropouts.....

It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not t= o bother sending the signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am = running quite a lot off just a macbook pro.

Thanks= for the advice.
Daniel

2009/5/15 Per Boysen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><perboysen@gmail= .com>
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Daniel Hegarty
<danielphegarty@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> I think perhaps it is at points when the sequencer is playing demandin= g soft
> synths in live mode, but it's hard to be sure.


You shouldn't use an Instrument Track in Logic =A0for this. Bette= r using
an External MIDI Track. When I did this once, I ran the EDP in
quantize mode and "pre-delayed" all my MIDI streams going out of<= br> Logic, through the physical MIDI port and cable into the EDP. That fix
makes sure every little bit of MIDI gets to the EDP in time - you
know, MIDI is a serial protocol.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


--001636c5b496558b6d0469f160bc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 11:16:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAB5A3BE7E; Fri, 15 May 2009 11:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=joFXU2NQVflwJUCOllnzToBecd3P9F68F7llyPGjOwA=; b=Vr6lrU2ANQMa/gN9mjbSN2QJye3zVnhCZHjgEazRXnS72t/u71ALmwvxNXSu2yOwhA lHzH+vxrEi8KZr+HJGo44wLxzA6imaIHuno65GOsa2DVwpOhkif7PQF4fKRUAQoNb/Qz rm319E3o5o8oTFtZJRB0PSk+e9aNH8kZ3eMD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kJCtumxB4t84tz5/q1w3UL9wF5kqTgpnIiMtFZy1qRAcjyssv2yqAfISPemZ5QFPD1 DA4yf+81tuWmydgNcUtq6bUjT8VdHBOKMPX4kG+emfEqAjShL+ekoQUQdjqYPB61eMTI 8XEmEkAO4yOqFgk9ETsuOu2CcUcRSIsEbD750= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:16:13 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:16:13 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to bother sending the > signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am running quite a lot > off just a macbook pro. Well, that's indeed odd. But there has to be an explanation that we yet don't know about. Definitely not CPU related, because Logic would pop up a warning message before that happens. Are you sure it simply stops sending out the MIDI that is spinning in the sequencer? Have you monitored the MIDI Out port? That would be a good way to start trouble-shooting. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 11:22:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38FAF3BE73; Fri, 15 May 2009 11:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ZMlh+JtSNTLyyQIr1o0T8S9rw2KX0QECxgj85tsCZrU=; b=dr61T23+8SV4Z16t/XxK5EygzVymKOUEJUyBEdc+fFfVeMKP1pZuA9YOkqBNXS7D2a u4YW/05i2gy8UJicc9o8O9LMCmOa2tMdB6z8iRhGz7SIkNd5Nyd/ADvRU4MwgiDbVjWJ VvbuP2O+qylb5F1W3nw7fG2nLt1plzX7grcao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=M6vG8VzA4I+0xwTOCzv0iveWcC+9b9+lBqV3S7ysjLHOm5Dhaac9fGEcNPlxdKDtZ6 T2vuWBh0dHKDnmYWy0KcK2jykqWrz5SUW533lXiidme2xEUo7rR5YUfbXfy3rS2k1VdI cBseXsrR62Xhzan16B02fnSpmjNnEv56WZEY8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Hegarty Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:22:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b47e6ed1cd0469f1a956 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:22:40 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b47e6ed1cd0469f1a956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have. I ran MidiMonitor last night for the full length of the 30 minute track, and it all looked very healthy, no glitches. However, we also run 6 or 7 softsynths in the logic file which we play live. We have two midi keyboards inputting and playing these instruments, at different points, but also occasionally simultaneously. On the most part it works fine, the trouble is we're normally playing when the glitches happen so it's difficult to keep an eye on the MidiMonitor. Though, now I think about it, we could run MidiMonitor while we're playing and then review the log afterwards. Good idea! I'll let you know the results. Thanks Daniel 2009/5/15 Per Boysen > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Daniel Hegarty > wrote: > > It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to bother sending > the > > signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am running quite a lot > > off just a macbook pro. > > Well, that's indeed odd. But there has to be an explanation that we > yet don't know about. Definitely not CPU related, because Logic would > pop up a warning message before that happens. Are you sure it simply > stops sending out the MIDI that is spinning in the sequencer? Have you > monitored the MIDI Out port? That would be a good way to start > trouble-shooting. > > Per > > --001636c5b47e6ed1cd0469f1a956 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have. I ran MidiMonitor last night for the full length of the 30 minute t= rack, and it all looked very healthy, no glitches.

Howev= er, we also run 6 or 7 softsynths in the logic file which we play live. We = have two midi keyboards inputting and playing these instruments, at differe= nt points, but also occasionally simultaneously. On the most part it works = fine, the trouble is we're normally playing when the glitches happen so= it's difficult to keep an eye on the MidiMonitor. Though, now I think = about it, we could run MidiMonitor while we're playing and then review = the log afterwards. Good idea!

I'll let you know the results.

=
Thanks
Daniel

2009/5/15 Pe= r Boysen <perbo= ysen@gmail.com>
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1= :01 PM, Daniel Hegarty
<danielphegarty@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to bother sendin= g the
> signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am running quite a = lot
> off just a macbook pro.

Well, that's indeed odd. But there has to be an explanation that = we
yet don't know about. Definitely not CPU related, because Logic would pop up a warning message before that happens. Are you sure it simply
stops sending out the MIDI that is spinning in the sequencer? Have you
monitored the MIDI Out port? That would be a good way to start
trouble-shooting.

Per


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 =3BDr. Yasser Taymullah Muwaffaq fro= m Saudi Arabia. This man deposited the sum of $70=2C000=2C000.00 (Seventy M= illion United States Dollars only) in a domicilliary account with the Bank = where I am working presently on June 30th=2C 1999. Unfortunately=2C in 2002= =2C he died in plane crash on his way to their muslim feast in his country = alongside with his entire immediate family of wife and two children.
However=2C ever since the incident=2C nobody has come up or applied as the = next of kin or relation to the deceased as to claim back the money. To this= effect therefore=2C the bank have reached an agreement that if by 30th of = June=2C 2009=2C nobody comes up or applies as the deceased next of kin or r= elation=2C the fund would be absorbeb into the banks treasury as an unclaim= ed asset as it is the bank's standard that in a case of this nature=2C wher= e the money remains unclaimed for 10yrs=2C then it automatically becomes an= inverted asset /unclaimed bill. Now my dear I want you to =3B see this= as a most beautiful opportunity that has come our way to which I have vowe= d to utilize wisely by co-operatively puting hands together with you to bea= t the bank. =3B On this note herein I contact you=2C to assist me lets = claim this money. It is very easy as nobody can suspect me of aiding such c= laim=2C although this is purely bank's deal and it is 100% risk free provid= ed you will adequately
 =3Bfollow my advice and instructions because= I will be as an insider here to put you through=2C if only you can provide= a secured and trusted bank account that can carry such amount as stated ab= ove when transfered by the bank. The truth is that the money in question is= never mine nor yours=2C we are only going to use wisdom to divert this fun= ds for ourselves. This is because the bank is more than rich and it will be= foolishness to allow them convert this funds into the bank's treasury. I'm= going to sacrifice my all to see that we claim this fund.
 =3BAs a= n insider=2C I have been able to grab all neccessary information related to= this deal. I will be able to stand by you and furnish you comprehensively= =2C with all that it will take to make this deal a success.
The depositor was a foreigner and it must take a foreigner to apply as the = next of kin=2C that is why I am contacting you as a foreigner. After this m= oney is finally transferred to your account=2C I will then resign up my app= ointment with the bank and come over to your country for disbursment and pe= rhaps reside there as you may help me. The offer for assistance will be 45%= for you=2C 45% for me and balance 10% for any enevitable expenses that wil= l be incured in this deal. Ofcourse there shall be minure inevitable expens= es no doubt in this very deal before it can be archieved successfully=2C th= erefore you must be financially independent before you can respond to this = mail. Most importantly you must be capable to receive such amount of money = as mentioned above in your bank acount without much questioning and interro= gations by your bank. On your response to this my appeal=2C I will be able = to acquaint you with further steps to achieving this deal snapidly. Respond=
 =3Bto me as quickly as possible. Remember this deal is between you= &=3B me only. Bear in mind that we have only but a limited time to get = this deal acomplished. No room for delays. Children's food should not be th= rown to the dogs. Call me as soon as you receives this mail with this numbe= r +22676942164.
Sincerely yours
Mr. Buka Naam.
= --_c543020b-9227-42c3-a64b-e5ad2492035f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 11:49:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79FA83BE73; Fri, 15 May 2009 11:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:49:13 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Question about OSX audio routing MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:49:15 +0000 (UTC) I have a question about routing audio inside OSX. I want to make sure I d= on't create feedback loops or unnessesary audio connnections which double= s the sound but I don't know enough about how the OSX audio routing works= . For example, it's strange or confusing that output from applications li= ke iTunes is automaticly routed to the main outputs of my Motu, I can't r= oute it to a specific audio output. Mainstage and Logic however can be ro= uted to any Motu output, no problem. I installed JackOSX and with Jack yo= u have more freedom to route your audio. But what if you run both Mainstage and Bidule as host? Suppose I sent Mai= nstage to output 3/4 of the Motu and I add a duplex audio device to Bidul= e. I can now use the Mainstage output in Bidule, add effects etc and rout= e it to output 3/4 again. This works, but I'm wondering if Bidule output = 3/4 are mixed into and thus added to the original output 3/4 of Mainstage= yes or no. Or does Bidule operate at a lower level so Mainstage and Bidu= le work in series? Btw: could JackOSX add anything extra for a live looping situation? Sjaak --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! 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= --_b1e9d95e-dbd6-440a-aa0b-617ff3d331b4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 13:06:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34F533BE75; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aB2yJPO9ai5ITHDGk+e8p7omRPfVP/yAVGUiud0ZlUM=; b=b8EYqf9aqqV/tyZP+4noP2w7iTMrx3e9YgIph/HSszgplU096Bhiog/3rKNUnMTNwC BTwsmV/mx+VmIEFpv1l6KHGECasgYHrQnu7rIUdH7a9adfuCunSE/61qOArTSoOzM+6S D/8l3DQj8VMWyMP8Fe53Uk02bWTBgQzJMSj4I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YDH/Ix+og+eInCQY4ddjDtCOKed21eQDTDF0q5O0CQHqgrLKzMPnO8iFBuN0k3Ky5N dt5j2IDvDeHKE3JnGpe6luHW4oua/bFkv/ZWww+aWJdpeARMKCYWB9t71jsOjlilC9JQ 1YjOglaBLMUPERvALtyPgav01YDvEcEyTZJGg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:06:24 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:06:25 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Sjaak wrote: > But what if you run both Mainstage and Bidule as host? Suppose I sent Mainstage to output 3/4 of the > Motu and I add a duplex audio device to Bidule. I can now use the Mainstage output in Bidule, add effects etc > and route it to output 3/4 again. This works, but I'm wondering if Bidule output 3/4 are mixed into and thus > added to the original output 3/4 of Mainstage yes or no. If you target the same Motu output from two parallel applications - like here Mainstage and Bidule - these two streams will of course be summed at that Motu output. It doesn't matter if you think about your way as "Bidule being mixed into Mainstage" or the other way around. It is simply two audio streams getting summed in the Motu device (and that's OS X code at work, since OS X runs the CoreAudio driver for the Motu box). > Or does Bidule operate at a lower level so Mainstage and Bidule work in series? No. Not unless you set it up like that with some sort of hack. > Btw: could JackOSX add anything extra for a live looping situation? Not in my opinion. The reason is that any live looping situation is highly timing dependent, being a real-time activity, and the latency of both Jack and SoundFlower (Cycling74) induce a latency that does vary depending on what else is happening on the computer. There's no way of compensating for varying latency. For non timing critical routing Jack and SoundFlower works fine though. I use SoundFlower to record mp3 files of phone conferences and any sort of audio streaming like iTunes, Spotify etc. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 13:15:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A23913BE77; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ibMLCXmbKl5B15h0SiFg/wH2P+a59yocLsqjJCHrbb4=; b=ZoPbWW4UCff3noR5kZlbT2KuzpcFPmg+uWcfD0ONI4fVwUZuFSig2Sm2wmhMMqwATW U/xhUPtSLOWYJkvOD+s2cIg5N1MejPI97IU9hPbV44ouqkgVLWkDN+nFpG31/eds+mk3 Zh6odCa6b3k4+xaenz705n0hBV2WCvbC50RFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SQMRstp17GqOo+aESGIsPER/+ao6Qc9wVYrbeeTPSNQe9jhvJpEAzSRZ5LlJlW3HFA nutAdqSkmw8shMnj9A2s1BLAUKcCiz6OgwAJb18VZgH+U5tE9ZLZ3pXfUYAAcKMCsePZ ur3wl1pdhXTgZx6cO1mihNv3mdtu/02WABoUU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:15:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <62EbzC.A.LK.ZrWDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:15:05 +0000 (UTC) ... not much related but i need to know. if i try to capture through soundflower, and providing that soundflower always sends 32bits streams, my ableton's impro's into logic (under leopard) ... does this implies that logic will truncate from 32 to 24 bits, since logic can't open 32 bits files? ... i know logic operates with 32 bits internally, but what about recording from soundflower? is ableton really sending 32 bits in realtime? any workaround per? 2009/5/15, Per Boysen : > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Sjaak wrote: >> But what if you run both Mainstage and Bidule as host? Suppose I sent >> Mainstage to output 3/4 of the >> Motu and I add a duplex audio device to Bidule. I can now use the >> Mainstage output in Bidule, add effects etc >> and route it to output 3/4 again. This works, but I'm wondering if Bidule >> output 3/4 are mixed into and thus >> added to the original output 3/4 of Mainstage yes or no. > > If you target the same Motu output from two parallel applications - > like here Mainstage and Bidule - these two streams will of course be > summed at that Motu output. It doesn't matter if you think about your > way as "Bidule being mixed into Mainstage" or the other way around. It > is simply two audio streams getting summed in the Motu device (and > that's OS X code at work, since OS X runs the CoreAudio driver for the > Motu box). > >> Or does Bidule operate at a lower level so Mainstage and Bidule work in >> series? > > No. Not unless you set it up like that with some sort of hack. > >> Btw: could JackOSX add anything extra for a live looping situation? > > Not in my opinion. The reason is that any live looping situation is > highly timing dependent, being a real-time activity, and the latency > of both Jack and SoundFlower (Cycling74) induce a latency that does > vary depending on what else is happening on the computer. There's no > way of compensating for varying latency. > > For non timing critical routing Jack and SoundFlower works fine > though. I use SoundFlower to record mp3 files of phone conferences and > any sort of audio streaming like iTunes, Spotify etc. > > Per > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 13:33:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2BB23BE78; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A0D6F3A.3080108@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:33:46 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: new non-looping guitar record References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8yijJC.A.rt.D9WDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:33:55 +0000 (UTC) With only the most minimal of looping content, wanted to announce my new acoustic guitar record, called "Body of a Poet". It's a "tunes" album with a big flamenco/rumba influence, with diversions toward post-rock, straightforward pop and classical/minimalist stuff. I've set up a page on Bandcamp, which I've quickly fallen in love with. You upload full .wav files, and they they offer the tracks in a variety of formats. They handle sales, and don't take a cut (??), it's all free and very easy to set up. Visitors can then stream the whole thing or download, at a price all the way down to free if you like. That's what I chose to do, so just grab it if you wish (though it's required to give me your email address for my newsletter if you don't wanna pay). http://darylshawn.bandcamp.com/album/body-of-a-poet Extremely minimal looping content: Craquelure is dedicated to Nels Cline. Also, I was listening to Zoe Keating's "One Cello x16" an awful lot at the time I was writing the title track Body of a Poet, and I think it echoes the mood of some of her stuff. By Monday I hope to have finished my long-in-progress Repetitive Miniatures, which is nothing BUT loops. I'll be blabbing about that one soon enough. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 13:52:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4506F3BE82; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:52:03 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <0PwnO.A.yMB.GOXDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:52:06 +0000 (UTC) > Per wrote: > If you target the same Motu output from two parallel applications - > like here Mainstage and Bidule - these two streams will of course be > summed at that Motu output. It doesn't matter if you think about your > way as "Bidule being mixed into Mainstage" or the other way around. It > is simply two audio streams getting summed in the Motu device (and > that's OS X code at work, since OS X runs the CoreAudio driver for the > Motu box). Thanks Per :) One more question, does the same count for running Bidule a= s AU plugin inside Mainstage? I gues the answer is yes, so re-routing the= Bidule output to output 5/6 and import these into mainstage again as ext= ernal audio instrument would do the trick. The reason I'm asking is that = I want to integrate some Bidules I've build (both midi and audio) into Ma= instage which do some random stuff in the background. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 14:02:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 997973BE84; Fri, 15 May 2009 14:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4p6vvO1xBFBW8WPQkPfytrWD4N2jlFjxdX+u9uijC/M=; b=m+c3Ipp0fSTDwc1qi0827VVty7F6i+URsEPWti4Ce4px2/+Q7f94Fm0yvPqNNjzj4Q L4SoFtQgf845NDST6oYrS4iVjCU4Wt+TS26ghhW9bFxi6Usd8OySrNx0hTODB3vdtHQM F2pF4dU5SX53Ihxzv2KXOfPVA/WcRFXechElQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VV5PS4TzO3cFFBsZKOSBkI0yn3r6uU7r31ghBDZVoMOa9caK1mBGvdLZUuccPNzUJu Ju2Njxxw2JVvZPGaDylImgxgYqkQwIBMjkB5VbOZPboIkdCZs9PC1Z+VLNwfHnso2xBD b8VUnA7lB6z1oKqh57R4IiSeLgRyh63rAWE74= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:02:17 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905150702t6580b824id5983dd9c06c9261@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:02:22 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Thanks Per :) One more question, does the same count for running Bidule a= s AU plugin inside Mainstage? I gues the answer is yes, so re-routing the B= idule output to output 5/6 and import these into mainstage again as externa= l audio instrument would do the trick. The reason I'm asking is that I want= to integrate some Bidules I've build (both midi and audio) into Mainstage = which do some random stuff in the background. Yes, you are right. But there is another aspect to this and that is how Mainstage deals with the fact that audio is sent directly from a Bidule AU plug-in to the physical port that Mainstage already has a fixed relationship to (buffer settings etc). I've had weird crashes when using Bidule AU in Mainstage but as far as I remember it worked fine when not targeting MIDI or Audio Devices directly from the Bidule AU plug-in. You know, whenever you open a Bidule AU (or VST) plug-in the interface inside that plug-in does give you an input port - and this input port is the stream that comes through the host application. Safest to use that one - but best is to try everything and learn what works and what doesn't. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 14:06:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A351D3BE85; Fri, 15 May 2009 14:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4A0D6F3A.3080108@mhorse.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D6F3A.3080108@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT: new non-looping guitar record Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:06:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <8uAC-D.A.duB.obXDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, I am in the process of downloading "Body of a Poet" right this very=20 moment. I haven't listened to it yet. I'll let you know when I get a chance to hear it. Would directing people to this material be useful in promoting your=20 performance in Southern Oregon next month? I've been sick, so I'm a little late in getting the promotional effort=20= up and going. Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn Creativity represents a miraculous coming together of the uninhibited=20 energy of the child with its apparent opposite and enemy, the sense of=20= order imposed on the disciplined adult intelligence. =96 Norman = Podhoretz http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes On May 15, 2009, at 6:33 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > With only the most minimal of looping content, wanted to announce my=20= > new acoustic guitar record, called "Body of a Poet". It's a "tunes"=20 > album with a big flamenco/rumba influence, with diversions toward=20 > post-rock, straightforward pop and classical/minimalist stuff. > > I've set up a page on Bandcamp, which I've quickly fallen in love=20 > with. You upload full .wav files, and they they offer the tracks in a=20= > variety of formats. They handle sales, and don't take a cut (??), it's=20= > all free and very easy to set up. Visitors can then stream the whole=20= > thing or download, at a price all the way down to free if you like.=20 > That's what I chose to do, so just grab it if you wish (though it's=20 > required to give me your email address for my newsletter if you don't=20= > wanna pay). > > http://darylshawn.bandcamp.com/album/body-of-a-poet > > Extremely minimal looping content: Craquelure is dedicated to Nels=20 > Cline. Also, I was listening to Zoe Keating's "One Cello x16" an awful=20= > lot at the time I was writing the title track Body of a Poet, and I=20 > think it echoes the mood of some of her stuff. > > By Monday I hope to have finished my long-in-progress Repetitive=20 > Miniatures, which is nothing BUT loops. I'll be blabbing about that=20 > one soon enough. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 14:22:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D05293BE7C; Fri, 15 May 2009 14:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j7s02njzzGnUzatBr8PpDI14DnC0rU8HTGxLtp0dpuE=; b=ZFvgZRrH328605KnuhON7qQidQ5AOlfJPDOAguBSN/32wpowwLx+aZf/xNsnmYo1NK DwW9BVZyW25iq1z73VJ3uBDJNRnIorFkXqip/CpmhKa/xWs0GdoGYbhOMV0r2bN8hxtX wGJ8kJgX1VC/WqyfLHq6pDYQWQTdlEcutsddc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uRZmnvlBze7q2OvQTQRL9flRbireGBcVBXBiAclnsXw4ZzCmnUx8A3S+7u0+cVc7yv 9DoPx0pnI6mr08w5odwh0XfVvH+D6BgMscAnANekKP9jprEMenOQj/QO/e4TBXTDlu/s CyWM1ZYYaAnClA8QgI4QjDZ6C4mwsqppYfMOU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:56:55 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905150656g935e053u15a5880c88713f59@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:22:36 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > > if i try to capture through soundflower, and providing that > soundflower always sends 32bits streams, my ableton's impro's into > logic (under leopard) ... does this implies that logic will truncate > from 32 to 24 bits, since logic can't open 32 bits files? ... i know > logic operates with 32 bits internally, but what about recording from > soundflower? is ableton really sending 32 bits in realtime? any > workaround per? I have no idea, I'm afraid. And I don't bother. Technical stuff like that is what I use sound cards and audio devices for. What I care about though is to set the audio clock master/slave relation correctly and then I simply pipe over ADAT or S/PDIF and let the software handle it the way it's designed to do. The question about "truncating" is not correctly put, because you are talking about a stream but asking about a file. That's two different processes and you are in fact answering the question in your post! :-) For the latter part, weather Ableton Live sens 32 bit floating point, I guess you should check with the manual? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 14:26:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E2F93BE81; Fri, 15 May 2009 14:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D9oS6GuOURl0IC7bkTAfv2In2fxPKpHvA6s3b0L1H4I=; b=tZdJprJaJIe8ZJuy4fuE9/NxOp6i/eamfvyRaknxv8T7hgOmMTO+1GAK5b6cIw/WUu Qkpeq3kaqTDLbW+NfGvtdlWl9vM6v/Tjf6/x74WaubggoYrztQWnE5zdIgw9hSYdfWbB bQdoya9ZgrP9BzCCwf2ujFETalIesTNpymB+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ETWlkeFMDG2FBG03ua52CBAwI/kcSt0Tdx2k6+O4Rliita/LGXPozEGNRb7LVu+tKq QxJNtkC2nUzw3VZPSDsonG7QL2pAXTFYM05Hty+4d1WvM5lCXtIuMii4hGGWoy5e3eHr udYiEeXMhV8d+SCWYdXZcgYdzYVczfpMeRJvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:25:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4246d9a2b6bcf336 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:26:02 +0000 (UTC) why are you using soundflower for that? Live is quite capable of recording its own output as you play. cheers, os. 2009/5/15 Raul Bonell : > ... not much related but i need to know. > > if i try to capture through soundflower, and providing that > soundflower always sends 32bits streams, my ableton's impro's into > logic (under leopard) ... does this implies that logic will truncate > from 32 to 24 bits, since logic can't open 32 bits files? ... i know > logic operates with 32 bits internally, but what about recording from > soundflower? is ableton really sending 32 bits in realtime? any > workaround per? > > 2009/5/15, Per Boysen : >> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Sjaak wrote: >>> But what if you run both Mainstage and Bidule as host? Suppose I sent >>> Mainstage to output 3/4 of the >>> Motu and I add a duplex audio device to Bidule. I can now use the >>> Mainstage output in Bidule, add effects etc >>> and route it to output 3/4 again. This works, but I'm wondering if Bidule >>> output 3/4 are mixed into and thus >>> added to the original output 3/4 of Mainstage yes or no. >> >> If you target the same Motu output from two parallel applications - >> like here Mainstage and Bidule - these two streams will of course be >> summed at that Motu output. It doesn't matter if you think about your >> way as "Bidule being mixed into Mainstage" or the other way around. It >> is simply two audio streams getting summed in the Motu device (and >> that's OS X code at work, since OS X runs the CoreAudio driver for the >> Motu box). >> >>> Or does Bidule operate at a lower level so Mainstage and Bidule work in >>> series? >> >> No. Not unless you set it up like that with some sort of hack. >> >>> Btw: could JackOSX add anything extra for a live looping situation? >> >> Not in my opinion. The reason is that any live looping situation is >> highly timing dependent, being a real-time activity, and the latency >> of both Jack and SoundFlower (Cycling74) induce a latency that does >> vary depending on what else is happening on the computer. There's no >> way of compensating for varying latency. >> >> For non timing critical routing Jack and SoundFlower works fine >> though. I use SoundFlower to record mp3 files of phone conferences and >> any sort of audio streaming like iTunes, Spotify etc. >> >> Per >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 14:28:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 976AC3BE82; Fri, 15 May 2009 14:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A0D7C08.7010800@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:28:24 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: new non-looping guitar record References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D6F3A.3080108@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:28:33 +0000 (UTC) thanks for buying, brutha! most kind of you. Well, I expect that'll be a looping set when I come to Medford, yes? I'll have my Miniatures up in the next few days, as well as Rentintwain from last year, which would be better ref's for the looping stuff. I'll let you know. Glad you hear you've recovered at least a little bit. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Daryl, > > I am in the process of downloading "Body of a Poet" right this very > moment. > > I haven't listened to it yet. > > I'll let you know when I get a chance to hear it. > > Would directing people to this material be useful in promoting your > performance in Southern Oregon next month? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 14:47:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91A8F3BE80; Fri, 15 May 2009 14:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 123567.47912.bm@omp208.mail.re3.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Ha/ELwIjFRkUHV9E7xQjyTZNWhDM5MdLSU9QiwXGqYG40ND1Rps19BkpxTIhhNDHXgE8mOleMZysmSo2yHNSQUWWtWiq3xCyImvQrS70tsSDWa17qpXT/KGZcE0CU4uPuTtxjoI+DcCV1+lpeauUQFopNHAjtaA/xE6q9L3tfnk= ; X-YMail-OSG: PB4nRJ8VM1nllA4K_ezQJBknnKXBVHB7EYbjs1JLfuIl8t54I5AhCxJXph2y5fBuEGK0XYPoQ9GBku8u81g91F7rSvXyye1yJiE2T_PRJIEv1BXjyheRN7CvCZFyaGXyi2GqOS_V6BPxAssOyO5vxGcTsu4fVCN1ygDKQ5rYiITk22M5wDsPWdN2oEI6t2akXxqYfJHSRlsXke0u46dAtjtc1csinwl1mwbQMHIkSfdcIKSedBk7L8M.7y0RGAachtwcniaT2Be_z1LdfdprIc6p85PyKp.UcEO6p_oCSIGCPFBuKmS8Qi31DbHLRqq_fIsCtf9WmhTjBXplmyq8oIeyqU5_MQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006101c9d56c$036c1910$0c84a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: <7334ca1b0905140924k204cf837ke052b1af634cf658@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: In search of a XP program which generates MIDI CCs out of mouse clicks Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:47:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Hello Rainer, Perhaps you can have a look here: http://www.nicolasfournel.com/midi.htm There are tools for midi glove, midi tablet or mouse. Good luck, Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:24 PM Subject: In search of a XP program which generates MIDI CCs out of mouse clicks > Again, I'm searching for something odd: > > For something I can't tell you about yet, I need a program which does > the following: > * runs on XP > * takes command of a mouse, trackball or other HID device (e.g. > mobile phone via bluetooth in "desktop" mode) > * "taking command" means: the mouse/trackball/whatever can no > longer be used to move a cursor on the screen etc. > * assigns MIDI messages (CCs, Notes) to button presses (e.g. left > mouse button is CC13 Value 127, then CC13 Value 0 after 50ms - ESC on > keyboard is Note 23, velocity 127 for 50ms etc.)) > * Sends them out to a MIDI output of my choice. > * optional: Assigns MIDI CCs to the controller's X/Y axis. > > Is there anything like that? I'm especially after the buttons, not so > much after the X/Y axis. > > Thanks, > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 15:29:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE5823BE79; Fri, 15 May 2009 15:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1242401397; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=mvpdcveO9E1GXb57xcEMPKMDma8=; b=BhDS9DowXxYJrkRg43LqD6/kocxTKqr1ZsbXw5nP2022IHWEW6m4f90Lrgv48cut mDBagGy5eH2rjAe0Zr1lBdDBI9fvTG5YZjpMhf93Tt7VkFHH0kNUADCuVfAl2TLK; X-BINDING: X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=B8CpycrvAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=8U_8BYAIAAAA:20 a=X8lw9rmGAAAA:8 a=UwE3cuQ_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=UMxYdYlx5Ug3iOhPIhwA:9 a=HHFhyJVhrbx53D-thfoA:7 a=tY7KExGfv7nwvXDf7B5t9mQokYYA:4 a=BpqUGxorProA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=Dgri_45lwF5s6wZE:21 a=-xEV7IqSCJBdSneh:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002a01c9d572$00998960$ffe33547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D6F3A.3080108@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: new non-looping guitar record Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:29:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, really digging "Body of a Poet". So full of the simple pleasure of life. Great way to start my day. The only thing is, since I paid for it I don't get to join your newsletter?! hehe, where else can I sign up? Also Bandcamp is really cool. Everything worked well and all the different qualities availiable is nice. And they don't take a cut? Amazing, not even any ads on the page. I will check into this. All the best, Jeff "the full fruit of a labor of love lives in the harvest, and that always comes in its right season" _anonymous http://jeffduke.org/ http://virb.com/jeffduke http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: OT: new non-looping guitar record > With only the most minimal of looping content, wanted to announce my new > acoustic guitar record, called "Body of a Poet". It's a "tunes" album with > a big flamenco/rumba influence, with diversions toward post-rock, > straightforward pop and classical/minimalist stuff. > > I've set up a page on Bandcamp, which I've quickly fallen in love with. > You upload full .wav files, and they they offer the tracks in a variety of > formats. They handle sales, and don't take a cut (??), it's all free and > very easy to set up. Visitors can then stream the whole thing or download, > at a price all the way down to free if you like. That's what I chose to > do, so just grab it if you wish (though it's required to give me your > email address for my newsletter if you don't wanna pay). > > http://darylshawn.bandcamp.com/album/body-of-a-poet > > Extremely minimal looping content: Craquelure is dedicated to Nels Cline. > Also, I was listening to Zoe Keating's "One Cello x16" an awful lot at the > time I was writing the title track Body of a Poet, and I think it echoes > the mood of some of her stuff. > > By Monday I hope to have finished my long-in-progress Repetitive > Miniatures, which is nothing BUT loops. I'll be blabbing about that one > soon enough. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 15:39:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 342DA3BE86; Fri, 15 May 2009 15:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A0D8CA8.80003@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:39:20 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new non-looping guitar record References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D6F3A.3080108@mhorse.com> <002a01c9d572$00998960$ffe33547@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <002a01c9d572$00998960$ffe33547@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8DDV5D.A.5pE.yyYDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:39:30 +0000 (UTC) hey Jeff, thanks so much for your support, much appreciated. I will add you to the newsletter - only the best and brightest invited.! I should have mentioned before about Bandcamp that you can set up your release as a free download as well, I know a lot of people here do non-commercial releases and this is an painless way to share stuff. There is no function for listener reviews or ratings like CDbaby, and the only artwork you can add (I think...) is the banner and album cover. But otherwise I love it, especially the ability for people to download FLAC or mp3's at various rates I'm really surprised too they don't take a cut, the only possible fee is that they pass along any charges from Paypal if people use a credit card to buy. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Daryl, really digging "Body of a Poet". So full of the simple pleasure > of life. Great way to start my day. The only thing is, since I paid > for it I don't get to join your newsletter?! hehe, where else can I > sign up? > > Also Bandcamp is really cool. Everything worked well and all the > different qualities availiable is nice. And they don't take a cut? > Amazing, not even any ads on the page. I will check into this. > > All the best, > > Jeff > > "the full fruit of a labor of love lives in the harvest, and that > always comes in its right season" _anonymous > > > http://jeffduke.org/ > http://virb.com/jeffduke > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:33 AM > Subject: OT: new non-looping guitar record > > >> With only the most minimal of looping content, wanted to announce my >> new acoustic guitar record, called "Body of a Poet". It's a "tunes" >> album with a big flamenco/rumba influence, with diversions toward >> post-rock, straightforward pop and classical/minimalist stuff. >> >> I've set up a page on Bandcamp, which I've quickly fallen in love >> with. You upload full .wav files, and they they offer the tracks in a >> variety of formats. They handle sales, and don't take a cut (??), >> it's all free and very easy to set up. Visitors can then stream the >> whole thing or download, at a price all the way down to free if you >> like. That's what I chose to do, so just grab it if you wish (though >> it's required to give me your email address for my newsletter if you >> don't wanna pay). >> >> http://darylshawn.bandcamp.com/album/body-of-a-poet >> >> Extremely minimal looping content: Craquelure is dedicated to Nels >> Cline. Also, I was listening to Zoe Keating's "One Cello x16" an >> awful lot at the time I was writing the title track Body of a Poet, >> and I think it echoes the mood of some of her stuff. >> >> By Monday I hope to have finished my long-in-progress Repetitive >> Miniatures, which is nothing BUT loops. I'll be blabbing about that >> one soon enough. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 16:32:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2DF63BE87; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=qiNMUm/7j9dkQNjugHpPsuYgE5ULx7oT42tja9d9/8LmAb+PVDwiXztsLxq5Vu3DEtuDA75E+2cNfZiZApHjXD4HZ8Z8/lJk34xZyD2edwBaB2IYVbyVbizka9HeychevY1l5EE4BrfjM5t59L236rSmURhLw0YebovzAo8GFLo= ; X-YMail-OSG: hpz258wVM1nz.rWFzXN_q4MuBWQ4uTO.N8xIZgzMC3BjEFoUYsa_KDbHjVSL3pgm22cW.vhc6WClbaVfae4jE0uN3D9OoI5cniVNjq9aIVvpIz.Nij49c4CPI7Mjc2ur1s5LkG6Ib95WF5TlwVrMiBiFNl8sh_HN74b44sVlIN__3ODMe5k36K5Pyl.jQ81AWMZKdZvlcDnmMxpbFuKRqpod0C6M4ADe1UPGF5c1PXHxnvnMO5QfzdWrZxm0_GK6boLpUuHau9bmu0aVMg2bEZ0co14KAWNFx1o- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--42572367 Message-Id: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:31:56 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:32:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--42572367 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Its great man but you need to play clean and its only monopohonic - tracking is better on the top strings Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 13 May 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Seemed really good. What do you think of it? I abandoned hex pickup > guitar synths many moons ago (There's actually a thing called a > keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it might > be nice to fool with it. > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell > wrote: >> thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks. >> >> 2009/5/13, Matt Stevens : >>> oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com >>> >>> I am indeed an idiot >>> >>> Matt Stevens >>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> From: Matt Stevens >>>> Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Subject: Sonuss G2M >>>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> >>>> Hey guys >>>> >>>> Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - >>>> very cool - tracking is good. >>>> >>>> Matt Stevens >>>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> > --Apple-Mail-1--42572367 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its great man but you need to play clean and its only monopohonic - = tracking is better on the top strings

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 13 May 2009, = at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote:

Seemed really good.=A0 What do you think of it?=A0 I abandoned hex = pickup
guitar synths many moons ago = (There's actually a thing called a
keyboard that = triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it might
be nice to fool with it.


On Wed, May = 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> = wrote:
thanks mat = ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks.

mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com>:
I am indeed an idiot

Matt = Stevens




Begin forwarded = message:

=
Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 = BDT
Subject: Sonuss G2M

Hey guys

Posted a quick demo for that G2M = guitar to midi convertor thing -
very cool - = tracking is good.

Matt Stevens






=


Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com=
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com



=

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 16:43:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C6F03BE81; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wDPqFM0hjoOp9wi6etPa/iB/iRjXqTkJKIJjSSAuxW8=; b=e0ZkQote7Xg5L69elKgIi4esMKtaWDV4jWS81L89S7+a0nkTF0Uzj40v8IdGR5F4K/ FnmXzhfsskCY79SqzDnJ6uB+pMADWYNS086FrEVr4/DoUevhJT//qfzG6qu+L8Sijji6 Wj3Hygxnz0NIuNnvC7c0fTg1r000FFjLQTers= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gipcYhIBG2bitBxSmB+7wTgZ3GE620K31DaIREavve61y8qNSbWZX/lxvyBccWy2Iy /2QqmRfIRS2AKQRdiJVZ7hhRlH2j4c1VWncdf6T6PfTQkM/2jKsLV+OwgbVuN7VMzkCw uk8hIuL6Ax1xcwIwJDqQMhkef4/OzfZi41ql8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:36:47 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905150836l11d8eac9k2c9742450a5d52e4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) >>> For non timing critical routing Jack and SoundFlower works fine >>> though. I use SoundFlower to record mp3 files of phone conferences and >>> any sort of audio streaming like iTunes, Spotify etc. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Os wrote: > why are you using soundflower for that? Live is quite capable of > recording its own output as you play. Because I use the applications Audio Hi-Jack Pro to snag streams on my macs and that application contains SoundFlower as its working stream jacking component. I don't use Live much at all. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 16:53:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A17DD3BE8A; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=caYdr8eTGqNBi9JsMzmbwfmd6xtD72xB5hle//EGX80=; b=und8PpGJtupbuy6Op2OufolHQvdra6XdaGMcGb6JfY9wQDUsRpzap9vqom0J7211o3 nlhobG2j1lIznVGfNaFEwTJ6gzCWlYBtKsn4xxE/2yI32T2G3HvHeNQORSX+WgwrK5p5 MhmUUVCcpMSlb/0kKTrOVCgntHLRfXxoEVE6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b1kWyxDOAGEFqfnh/ODfedAUMd7RK/BYBnAmRWMumvyDuIXhRXn5mAeU8kWcHd6xqc uc89F/qHX+PtM3PMcEyVvaWvE3hdIbHpqu1LUY8BGlTsonBXOwAeO4Eifwq4S0GoXcKm 1onguIyEPbSF2woWy9cEGleGEQA8ztXNdig9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:53:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:53:30 +0000 (UTC) i try to make the final mixes on logic, but since logic can't import 32 bits files... i'd go for the 24 bits format in live, although as i'm using lots of ableton's fx (and that's where 32 bits makes sense), if i render 24 bits files, then i need to dither from 32 to 24 prior to importing the files into logic (or i should?). i'd like to avoid dithering (even 32 bits to 24 bits, which is obviously harmless than 24 to 16 bits) before going into logic. i think there's a direct relation between streamed chunks and rendered files, per. 2009/5/15, Os : > why are you using soundflower for that? Live is quite capable of > recording its own output as you play. > > > cheers, > os. > > > 2009/5/15 Raul Bonell : >> ... not much related but i need to know. >> >> if i try to capture through soundflower, and providing that >> soundflower always sends 32bits streams, my ableton's impro's into >> logic (under leopard) ... does this implies that logic will truncate >> from 32 to 24 bits, since logic can't open 32 bits files? ... i know >> logic operates with 32 bits internally, but what about recording from >> soundflower? is ableton really sending 32 bits in realtime? any >> workaround per? >> >> 2009/5/15, Per Boysen : >>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Sjaak wrote: >>>> But what if you run both Mainstage and Bidule as host? Suppose I sent >>>> Mainstage to output 3/4 of the >>>> Motu and I add a duplex audio device to Bidule. I can now use the >>>> Mainstage output in Bidule, add effects etc >>>> and route it to output 3/4 again. This works, but I'm wondering if >>>> Bidule >>>> output 3/4 are mixed into and thus >>>> added to the original output 3/4 of Mainstage yes or no. >>> >>> If you target the same Motu output from two parallel applications - >>> like here Mainstage and Bidule - these two streams will of course be >>> summed at that Motu output. It doesn't matter if you think about your >>> way as "Bidule being mixed into Mainstage" or the other way around. It >>> is simply two audio streams getting summed in the Motu device (and >>> that's OS X code at work, since OS X runs the CoreAudio driver for the >>> Motu box). >>> >>>> Or does Bidule operate at a lower level so Mainstage and Bidule work in >>>> series? >>> >>> No. Not unless you set it up like that with some sort of hack. >>> >>>> Btw: could JackOSX add anything extra for a live looping situation? >>> >>> Not in my opinion. The reason is that any live looping situation is >>> highly timing dependent, being a real-time activity, and the latency >>> of both Jack and SoundFlower (Cycling74) induce a latency that does >>> vary depending on what else is happening on the computer. There's no >>> way of compensating for varying latency. >>> >>> For non timing critical routing Jack and SoundFlower works fine >>> though. I use SoundFlower to record mp3 files of phone conferences and >>> any sort of audio streaming like iTunes, Spotify etc. >>> >>> Per >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 17:02:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73A4A3BE80; Fri, 15 May 2009 17:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6a856L7Z1NcC2G5uNZaaWcYQnN0nY1ElvN3didH8LRU=; b=LwBuMm6z/hpxIRMsLpbOaCbY7v/aT59/0XVbn5a6n354K/D7LYAxtY/wWUZDtdugNN D4GGFLV9f3V4eVVO0l2JuS8+hAf4S2yi2i6coVFx0QLgWATi7ExmZHPuhoBnxgzXIQFf qqpjIK4t5DqLw8UZ8R+pTl+PGDAwY6SlAMqas= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RCgFk5mglQ2bW4ab4BSZC4Lk8AwiUDMDW1sKkKNlV91JCRprDJkgVvyNqaRwemE36p bdKJ57+0sBoI8BetU14J4+a8H4AvaYpv0/Uj7dl5DgYk5tgak1j3sgDLRlvivSGIyEkj 8MpJisfoDZO7lQV2QYb3cxG2nLTA5OmV434eE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:01:59 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905151001u65f34f75kb5ed49370e5aeb6e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Raul, Why aren't you combining Live and Logic with ReWire? That way you won't have to export or import any files at all and you get a more creative system with both Applications running together. Start Logic first then Live, so it will hook up as the ReWire slave to Logic, being the ReWire master. Then create as many ReWire channels you need in Logic's mixer to pipe in the channels from Live. The only drawback here is that no third-party plug-ins can be used in Live when in ReWire mode (yes, that sucks - many have complained but the Abes haven't been able to fix that yet). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i try to make the final mixes on logic, but since logic can't import > 32 bits files... i'd go for the 24 bits format in live, although as > i'm using lots of ableton's fx (and that's where 32 bits makes sense), > if i render 24 bits files, then i need to dither from 32 to 24 prior > to importing the files into logic (or i should?). > > i'd like to avoid dithering (even 32 bits to 24 bits, which is > obviously harmless than 24 to 16 bits) before going into logic. > > i think there's a direct relation between streamed chunks and rendered > files, per. > > 2009/5/15, Os : >> why are you using soundflower for that? Live is quite capable of >> recording its own output as you play. >> >> >> cheers, >> os. >> >> >> 2009/5/15 Raul Bonell : >>> ... not much related but i need to know. >>> >>> if i try to capture through soundflower, and providing that >>> soundflower always sends 32bits streams, my ableton's impro's into >>> logic (under leopard) ... does this implies that logic will truncate >>> from 32 to 24 bits, since logic can't open 32 bits files? ... i know >>> logic operates with 32 bits internally, but what about recording from >>> soundflower? is ableton really sending 32 bits in realtime? any >>> workaround per? >>> >>> 2009/5/15, Per Boysen : >>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Sjaak wrote: >>>>> But what if you run both Mainstage and Bidule as host? Suppose I sent >>>>> Mainstage to output 3/4 of the >>>>> Motu and I add a duplex audio device to Bidule. I can now use the >>>>> Mainstage output in Bidule, add effects etc >>>>> and route it to output 3/4 again. This works, but I'm wondering if >>>>> Bidule >>>>> output 3/4 are mixed into and thus >>>>> added to the original output 3/4 of Mainstage yes or no. >>>> >>>> If you target the same Motu output from two parallel applications - >>>> like here Mainstage and Bidule - these two streams will of course be >>>> summed at that Motu output. It doesn't matter if you think about your >>>> way as "Bidule being mixed into Mainstage" or the other way around. It >>>> is simply two audio streams getting summed in the Motu device (and >>>> that's OS X code at work, since OS X runs the CoreAudio driver for the >>>> Motu box). >>>> >>>>> Or does Bidule operate at a lower level so Mainstage and Bidule work in >>>>> series? >>>> >>>> No. Not unless you set it up like that with some sort of hack. >>>> >>>>> Btw: could JackOSX add anything extra for a live looping situation? >>>> >>>> Not in my opinion. The reason is that any live looping situation is >>>> highly timing dependent, being a real-time activity, and the latency >>>> of both Jack and SoundFlower (Cycling74) induce a latency that does >>>> vary depending on what else is happening on the computer. There's no >>>> way of compensating for varying latency. >>>> >>>> For non timing critical routing Jack and SoundFlower works fine >>>> though. I use SoundFlower to record mp3 files of phone conferences and >>>> any sort of audio streaming like iTunes, Spotify etc. >>>> >>>> Per >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> os@collective.co.uk >> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 17:16:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 887113BE7F; Fri, 15 May 2009 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=owSKI9RartRjox/mEhJs0D7yTt4EHCohjT3vs/dHpH8=; b=H0iTbeUz2LuML4V8eMrnFihwM8Zo2diz1Q9fGEDi/hzWCl2Tivr5u7ugw+ep4LfysK 22XZCjz1FqD+qKdm0+RLZ+JGx7RCoz29qy2LlzDc5Zwvz61JdxZ1E2fMawXS7EbaANfA hgWGODfB+0oawOXxT/TpZ323tzjtzu8Ywspgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dVd7bolpNlpbx8IB+O9LbtANRx3kDKFPKCCJ7fNA6rn4i7SJIPRD94egwoY4aFyVoK qnparWhiBCoEgVrszERQPXCzMjOOqjfF5U/3qhO1M0flkURvFDl/utbs/8v7cDtCtwYW z4B/QCTjcVg3RvmeKMiY5cxoOiIZrgB19hOes= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905151001u65f34f75kb5ed49370e5aeb6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905151001u65f34f75kb5ed49370e5aeb6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:16:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1F9_gC.A.jy.nNaDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) ... so then it's useless for me, since i'd wanted to capture the creative fx performance while improvising, and had to leave the soundhacks, smatelectronix, etc... that i usually control with the fcb1010 in the studio. as you told me some time ago, 24 bits seems the way to go. anyhow, does make sense to put at the end of each track channel an instance of a dithering plugin while recording ableton->soundflower->logic? would this consume lots of CPU power for, let's say, 8 stereo tracks at once? 2009/5/15, Per Boysen : > Raul, > > Why aren't you combining Live and Logic with ReWire? That way you > won't have to export or import any files at all and you get a more > creative system with both Applications running together. Start Logic > first then Live, so it will hook up as the ReWire slave to Logic, > being the ReWire master. Then create as many ReWire channels you need > in Logic's mixer to pipe in the channels from Live. The only drawback > here is that no third-party plug-ins can be used in Live when in > ReWire mode (yes, that sucks - many have complained but the Abes > haven't been able to fix that yet). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> i try to make the final mixes on logic, but since logic can't import >> 32 bits files... i'd go for the 24 bits format in live, although as >> i'm using lots of ableton's fx (and that's where 32 bits makes sense), >> if i render 24 bits files, then i need to dither from 32 to 24 prior >> to importing the files into logic (or i should?). >> >> i'd like to avoid dithering (even 32 bits to 24 bits, which is >> obviously harmless than 24 to 16 bits) before going into logic. >> >> i think there's a direct relation between streamed chunks and rendered >> files, per. >> >> 2009/5/15, Os : >>> why are you using soundflower for that? Live is quite capable of >>> recording its own output as you play. >>> >>> >>> cheers, >>> os. >>> >>> >>> 2009/5/15 Raul Bonell : >>>> ... not much related but i need to know. >>>> >>>> if i try to capture through soundflower, and providing that >>>> soundflower always sends 32bits streams, my ableton's impro's into >>>> logic (under leopard) ... does this implies that logic will truncate >>>> from 32 to 24 bits, since logic can't open 32 bits files? ... i know >>>> logic operates with 32 bits internally, but what about recording from >>>> soundflower? is ableton really sending 32 bits in realtime? any >>>> workaround per? >>>> >>>> 2009/5/15, Per Boysen : >>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Sjaak wrote: >>>>>> But what if you run both Mainstage and Bidule as host? Suppose I sent >>>>>> Mainstage to output 3/4 of the >>>>>> Motu and I add a duplex audio device to Bidule. I can now use the >>>>>> Mainstage output in Bidule, add effects etc >>>>>> and route it to output 3/4 again. This works, but I'm wondering if >>>>>> Bidule >>>>>> output 3/4 are mixed into and thus >>>>>> added to the original output 3/4 of Mainstage yes or no. >>>>> >>>>> If you target the same Motu output from two parallel applications - >>>>> like here Mainstage and Bidule - these two streams will of course be >>>>> summed at that Motu output. It doesn't matter if you think about your >>>>> way as "Bidule being mixed into Mainstage" or the other way around. It >>>>> is simply two audio streams getting summed in the Motu device (and >>>>> that's OS X code at work, since OS X runs the CoreAudio driver for the >>>>> Motu box). >>>>> >>>>>> Or does Bidule operate at a lower level so Mainstage and Bidule work >>>>>> in >>>>>> series? >>>>> >>>>> No. Not unless you set it up like that with some sort of hack. >>>>> >>>>>> Btw: could JackOSX add anything extra for a live looping situation? >>>>> >>>>> Not in my opinion. The reason is that any live looping situation is >>>>> highly timing dependent, being a real-time activity, and the latency >>>>> of both Jack and SoundFlower (Cycling74) induce a latency that does >>>>> vary depending on what else is happening on the computer. There's no >>>>> way of compensating for varying latency. >>>>> >>>>> For non timing critical routing Jack and SoundFlower works fine >>>>> though. I use SoundFlower to record mp3 files of phone conferences and >>>>> any sort of audio streaming like iTunes, Spotify etc. >>>>> >>>>> Per >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >>>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> os@collective.co.uk >>> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >>> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 17:18:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC3A93BE8B; Fri, 15 May 2009 17:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L3a0xdlvYHIkV6VqkPviqIFEFZxZPP4n1+3pQsUcoEc=; b=WFQCY6olp8QDFii/OHGF2tMhR9TkNUG3M+UiqhV/LgW7WQVb3xxljxq+A7ox6FNKE0 TLexXwZSfWOBRrL/38Do+6NH0RVWY+CSG22N7u9EbFd2SF/SUKqb89AGEZaE+lPIhRzI z8/sV22/QnCVQDXkv5RuFcq32OXrqGgmujwCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xk8/GKt0pzAaRLLkG8ibqRXlepkzbW1Qm7OuAeKJCfx17axcJv46CJSVdRP2XfVbnU gOF3gLRQiP7E+gxwPN9kDdCzzVyHWHMrfDrWcpF+LXlmhJzH6xUoMqlAPiqQrvlfPcvn FVSQAqsuxTLMn4wo0zDSaq8cpqLCSNlv7tmKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:18:11 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905151018mdf80e6frb0968adb310c065a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions, Saturday May 16th, 1600 UTC. From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Saturday May 16th, 1600 UTC. http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" (Rainer Straschill - trombone, voice, whimsical electronics) This is the last "inofficial" session as part of the MoinSound Studio sessions before we launch into a periodical, bi-weekly appearance. Mark you calendars - starting in cw22 (on 30th of May), the MoinSound Studio Sessions will air in every even calendar week, Saturday at 1600 UTC. See you there, Rainer ps: UTC is "universal time coordinated", which is basically zero-meridian astronomical time, or England time if they didn't have that stupid DST. For your convenience, here's a few references: 09:00 AM US/Pacific 12:00 PM US/Eastern 05:00 PM UK 18:00 Western Continental Europe (e.g. Germany, Austria, Switzerland) 01:00 the next day: Japan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 17:20:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F06E3BE87; Fri, 15 May 2009 17:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ZfMmp3c28+AbsLHIp5oHe/TcAQTpcWuOEf9KiYjFz5cMtD7Vuca3ShSpXcQT0pj4XDtVMw/BKMzMbFlIQdgSVXVMkvY7OyxHg+Ejd47uhPVi+7ni+hDRjS7yXr1bkj2E73l2crj/VrYsDUYTgk75ErfDsGoGJ33PJd6apQWvWYo= ; X-YMail-OSG: ftMGDZIVM1noGvS7.TtkAYL1NIsYYMfsBlouavwSKh7D153_Iygut_zgLU26F63hF1tZm77qmpXW3CzpWpv6ij1h0LWqaNZ8QNwztCA.FLVEosxBOjNewonbEhQBr9jEL0xnrPtGpOVqk269zC6jt9ywJS1WWe7_Ny1WURTrfLzEd0bhq9LaDbEv0SCrBdEK2Z4eK7gRD4464dXlFHvMZ5cgnNNOee_tZnMr9XzlHpmoOHfdPU3S_mMYgEU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905151018mdf80e6frb0968adb310c065a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905151018mdf80e6frb0968adb310c065a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--39688996 Message-Id: <411997DB-EE37-4D31-B72D-BAFE0FB5EBF7@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions, Saturday May 16th, 1600 UTC. Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:19:59 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:20:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--39688996 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cool 5pm tomorrow - see you there Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 15 May 2009, at 18:18, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Saturday May 16th, 1600 UTC. > http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs > "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" > (Rainer Straschill - trombone, voice, whimsical electronics) > > This is the last "inofficial" session as part of the MoinSound Studio > sessions before we launch into a periodical, bi-weekly appearance. > > Mark you calendars - starting in cw22 (on 30th of May), the MoinSound > Studio Sessions will air in every even calendar week, Saturday at 1600 > UTC. > > See you there, > > Rainer > > ps: UTC is "universal time coordinated", which is basically > zero-meridian astronomical time, or England time if they didn't have > that stupid DST. > For your convenience, here's a few references: > > 09:00 AM US/Pacific > 12:00 PM US/Eastern > 05:00 PM UK > 18:00 Western Continental Europe (e.g. Germany, Austria, Switzerland) > 01:00 the next day: Japan > --Apple-Mail-2--39688996 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool 5pm tomorrow - see you there

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 15 May 2009, = at 18:18, Rainer Straschill wrote:

Saturday May 16th, 1600 UTC.
http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs
"The MoinSound Studio Sessions"
(Rainer Straschill - trombone, voice, whimsical = electronics)

This is the last "inofficial" session as part of the = MoinSound Studio
sessions before we launch into a = periodical, bi-weekly appearance.

Mark you calendars - starting in = cw22 (on 30th of May), the MoinSound
Studio = Sessions will air in every even calendar week, Saturday at = 1600
UTC.

See you = there,

=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

ps: UTC is "universal time = coordinated", which is basically
zero-meridian = astronomical time, or England time if they didn't have
that stupid DST.
For your = convenience, here's a few references:

09:00 AM = US/Pacific
12:00 PM US/Eastern
05:00 PM UK
18:00 Western = Continental Europe (e.g. Germany, Austria, Switzerland)
01:00 the next day: Japan

=

= --Apple-Mail-2--39688996-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 17:57:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C95783BE79; Fri, 15 May 2009 17:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GGE172vLE23ZwiEi6nA51l8S/6KJ5LhKwSEJZlQ9pzI=; b=ndek6L84cmPn/FKyRuGpL4wlrZp2nGdEM8IDObWlU+zNotBBBnT5hMMJwzu+nGNACo ATXsWHUv1jHoXvfgTKnf2fRxLIoHH1zkzFY7VBbSO+/oTW0yqh3vBHX8vatODJZ/+Peq HxarJcVeHLOBHkRn3kWKgp51PoNPHn/lhgpTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YJIyfrj0tUKrFBP2pHbejLjOHqjP1jXsvK58AYFd/FSiXpwevhdegc4FsC79P2Qzlq MFF66IECbcaYku1TgeBXaT+NBnATeMSkofhK7aZPVN8gQD6objpPPtZ7Kebnlnx5hmI6 k7moZ2zQCvWm36c+8B4vc7v3yv1sNcfC9AI+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:57:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:57:41 +0000 (UTC) That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles to figure out a pitch. Lower notes are going to inherently have more latency. Could be a cool toy for cheap, but here in the U.S. trying to find a place that sells it is nearly impossible. The website is a labyrinth that goes no where. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Its great man but you need to play clean and its only monopohonic - track= ing > is better on the top strings > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > On 13 May 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > Seemed really good.=A0 What do you think of it?=A0 I abandoned hex pickup > guitar synths many moons ago (There's actually a thing called a > keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it might > be nice to fool with it. > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell wrot= e: > > thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks. > 2009/5/13, Matt Stevens : > > oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com > I am indeed an idiot > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: Matt Stevens > Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Sonuss G2M > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Hey guys > Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - > very cool - tracking is good. > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 18:02:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 635DB3BE7E; Fri, 15 May 2009 18:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=50kwJspRx+O/67L9reyktKQ2IuY1x5Cnpiye0moR0WnGyvSS6nDJd1/qKEqZhXLP6+dkiG5Z+MaTNWt7wATwNvxKFtoJMQzkW3lpm7I/qO68wL4VdVpJ/96cJE8sYuKPq67gR+ZubKd8oBH82KE+1ElhfJ9Xpzw7b/hZrRONulk= ; X-YMail-OSG: fwqwvPUVM1lkiBFdFwhMOg7riyTOTE5hS0pvVRi9dRYHi28OnoGjMIN_Cx.zHLj.C5tb8Z374MBCqf43U9qXRwFmlFcsN.I5jXx7RuhACmuOWBwn5t9QYrD_U3NVEcUcVF9Ju0QPsSdXbgjq2sNLW.t2W86I3hF9qkwLaDFzhrEPjM0GdYLrw07StxihH5SPOahC12IIRe2i.M0Jx4qBqvCrlgZD.S4ro8K3AzSl2I0Xx9nzTyQxCByM0nHCLISm8AAFdXG4nUYTFKTiuU.0AJyLW61pykf9FkA59_QKKMqP4_NcOHL4jA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--37147108 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:02:21 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <6Ax_cC.A.NvC.w4aDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:02:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--37147108 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Have u tried Amazon - got mine from there Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 15 May 2009, at 18:57, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles to > figure out a pitch. Lower notes are going to inherently have more > latency. Could be a cool toy for cheap, but here in the U.S. trying > to find a place that sells it is nearly impossible. The website is a > labyrinth that goes no where. > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: >> Its great man but you need to play clean and its only monopohonic >> - tracking >> is better on the top strings >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> On 13 May 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> Seemed really good. What do you think of it? I abandoned hex pickup >> guitar synths many moons ago (There's actually a thing called a >> keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it might >> be nice to fool with it. >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell >> wrote: >> >> thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks. >> 2009/5/13, Matt Stevens : >> >> oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com >> I am indeed an idiot >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> From: Matt Stevens >> Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Sonuss G2M >> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Hey guys >> Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - >> very cool - tracking is good. >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-3--37147108 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have u tried Amazon - got mine from there

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 15 May 2009, = at 18:57, Mark Sottilaro wrote:

That makes sense as you need at least a couple of = wave cycles to
figure out a pitch.=A0 Lower notes are going to = inherently have more
latency.=A0 Could be a cool toy for = cheap, but here in the U.S. trying
to find a = place that sells it is nearly impossible.=A0 The website is a
labyrinth=A0 = that goes no where.

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, = Matt Stevens
Its great man but you need to play clean and its = only monopohonic - tracking
is better on = the top strings
Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com



On 13 May = 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote:

Seemed really = good.=A0 What do you think of it?=A0 I abandoned hex pickup
guitar synths many moons ago (There's actually a = thing called a
keyboard that triggers = perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it might
be nice to fool with it.

On Wed, = May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> = wrote:

thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it = ...thanks.
2009/5/13, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com>:

I am indeed an = idiot
Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com



Begin = forwarded message:
Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 = BDT
Subject: Sonuss G2M
Hey guys
Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi = convertor thing -
very cool - tracking is = good.
Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com







--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com=
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com




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= --Apple-Mail-3--37147108-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 18:07:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 237C53BE87; Fri, 15 May 2009 18:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vThTBFvom7A9Ncu6V7+Gm2YR8oLSz1fUOjxziFh92xE=; b=fisYjeqbytVfbkx+yd58m07NQQNDwSXR0HbRnAjtjMCvvutfbm4pRuuoXJVnjrDn6Y Pjl8pMc1UE2naQJpsMFOIRE5L7Ez7cAnF2D/EDVONSYCDxJFgOEXcyXLyzBvQ9QbYEc4 JCo30CZ4h0SoJiuyKZz7iW8Kc1ZBNPkatbSpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LaL7DQq9UhCgSkOC35OqU2Bs84SCQYB/O65QYIssiYYw+uAJzPXVblpQD5ZldBS3eC qcw12TT8ATYGylUBsfLaHExXydluNN/6obKZ/rbXDffbVTkh48tiheWjJOxMulqLc5kl 2ntWyqHCwY14X5/4SgWdDhYOQp9TqhX/C2Zgo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:07:16 -0400 Message-ID: <7b8f49fa0905151107k393bb7day79a8b9773516a140@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M From: bassman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750ec0c8f33800469f75069 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:07:16 +0000 (UTC) --00151750ec0c8f33800469f75069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Musician's Friend is sending me one - can't wait to try it. Rich On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Have u tried Amazon - got mine from there > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 15 May 2009, at 18:57, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles to > figure out a pitch. Lower notes are going to inherently have more > latency. Could be a cool toy for cheap, but here in the U.S. trying > to find a place that sells it is nearly impossible. The website is a > labyrinth that goes no where. > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > > Its great man but you need to play clean and its only monopohonic - > tracking > is better on the top strings > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > On 13 May 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > Seemed really good. What do you think of it? I abandoned hex pickup > guitar synths many moons ago (There's actually a thing called a > keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it might > be nice to fool with it. > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks. > 2009/5/13, Matt Stevens : > > oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com > I am indeed an idiot > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: Matt Stevens > Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Sonuss G2M > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Hey guys > Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - > very cool - tracking is good. > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > > --00151750ec0c8f33800469f75069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Musician's Friend is sending me one - can't wait to try it.
=A0
Rich

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Matt Stevens <mat= tstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Have u tried Amazon - got mine from th= ere=20


On 15 May 2009, at 18:57, Mark Sottilaro wrote:

That makes sense as you need at least a couple o= f wave cycles to
figure out a pitch.=A0 Lower notes = are going to inherently have more
latency.=A0 Could be a cool toy for= cheap, but here in the U.S. trying
to find a place that sells it is nearly impossib= le.=A0 The website is a
labyrinth=A0 that goes no where.

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Matt Stevens
<mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Its great man but you need to play clean and its= only monopohonic - tracking
is better on the top strings
Matt Stevens



On 13 May 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote:<= /div>

Seemed really good.=A0 What do you think of it?= =A0 I abandoned hex pickup
guitar synths many moons ago (There's actual= ly a thing called a
keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I som= etimes think it might
be nice to fool with it.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell <= ;raul.bonell@gma= il.com> wrote:

thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...= thanks.
2009/5/13, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com>:

I am indeed an idiot
Matt Stevens



Begin forwarded message:

Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT
Subject: Sonuss G2M
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /div>
Hey guys
Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi = convertor thing -
very cool - tracking is good.
Matt Stevens







--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com





<= br>

--00151750ec0c8f33800469f75069-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 18:41:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 304903BE86; Fri, 15 May 2009 18:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=kOMmKqObw+ULGXLVLiRJTxH4RKpMerR05H5kHoDQz8pZc3HN+yvY652kaIzzV6Y6HllEhAM8LmJPAk46wQCb5sNVfkb8wUpAfI/FSetxgmApJOJ2E4jCtYXnf2K66OpuwhYrlwfwY0NUpAloBIoKR/mqn/HSGbr8Na9gVSAbkWQ= ; X-YMail-OSG: 3BoMaYgVM1nrQiBnY_2nlbkqFziM1_Vlg3Lcx2Zatp9LQCU9CK7ElDXMzppal1wgrFfHwaaW.theggxXVFCvOcixipLtzUuebYvTjI0I1j7ZkQUi4Gsrts51Swp4cVE663wQYcBebJvKfIriL0dFk9JcI0x.rdGU5Q6Xx9A1exl07PDTR3EjVWwiLMcJm_c6pWRqBNkcLq0g4iPADK2FxFAwv5fDx_uT7qRRzjUNCiC3fBsnqII2fqmOTVYODx_H2lEFwYXufosB1U3CpjOLwfPrhKLB_i_c1o4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7b8f49fa0905151107k393bb7day79a8b9773516a140@mail.gmail.com> References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> <7b8f49fa0905151107k393bb7day79a8b9773516a140@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--34780840 Message-Id: <0E1C688B-04EA-49AF-BBA6-73FE3DF15894@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:41:47 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <-a04FC.A.vME.udbDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:41:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--34780840 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Let me know what you think - i love my one. Moog solos - yes!!!!!!!! Finally my Jan Hammer fantasy is here Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 15 May 2009, at 19:07, bassman wrote: > Musician's Friend is sending me one - can't wait to try it. > > Rich > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > Have u tried Amazon - got mine from there > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 15 May 2009, at 18:57, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles to >> figure out a pitch. Lower notes are going to inherently have more >> latency. Could be a cool toy for cheap, but here in the U.S. trying >> to find a place that sells it is nearly impossible. The website is a >> labyrinth that goes no where. >> >> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Matt Stevens >> wrote: >>> Its great man but you need to play clean and its only monopohonic >>> - tracking >>> is better on the top strings >>> Matt Stevens >>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13 May 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >>> >>> Seemed really good. What do you think of it? I abandoned hex >>> pickup >>> guitar synths many moons ago (There's actually a thing called a >>> keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it >>> might >>> be nice to fool with it. >>> >>> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell >>> wrote: >>> >>> thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks. >>> 2009/5/13, Matt Stevens : >>> >>> oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com >>> I am indeed an idiot >>> Matt Stevens >>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> From: Matt Stevens >>> Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: Sonuss G2M >>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Hey guys >>> Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - >>> very cool - tracking is good. >>> Matt Stevens >>> www.mattstevensguitar.com >>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > --Apple-Mail-4--34780840 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Let me know what you think - i love my one. =A0Moog solos - yes!!!!!!!! = Finally my Jan Hammer fantasy is here

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 15 May 2009, = at 19:07, bassman wrote:

Musician's Friend is sending me one - can't wait to = try it.
=A0
Rich

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Matt Stevens = <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com> wrote:
Have u tried Amazon - = got mine from there


=
On 15 May 2009, at 18:57, Mark Sottilaro = wrote:

That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles = to
figure out a pitch.=A0 = Lower notes are going to inherently have more
latency.=A0 Could be a cool toy for = cheap, but here in the U.S. trying
to = find a place that sells it is nearly impossible.=A0 The = website is a
labyrinth=A0 = that goes no where.

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 = AM, Matt Stevens
=
Its great man but = you need to play clean and its only monopohonic - tracking
is better on the top strings
Matt Stevens



On 13 May 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote:

Seemed really good.=A0 What do you think of it?=A0 I abandoned hex = pickup
guitar synths many moons ago = (There's actually a thing called a
keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it = might
be nice to fool with it.
=

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell = <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks.
2009/5/13, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>:

=
I am indeed an idiot
Matt Stevens



Begin forwarded message:

Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT
Subject: Sonuss G2M
Hey guys
Posted a = quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing -
very cool - tracking is good.
Matt Stevens







--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com








= --Apple-Mail-4--34780840-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 18:51:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55E1D3BE84; Fri, 15 May 2009 18:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=e4AXD36nDKwTmzuZO10XiHs5Xe89yauZDNEccjGHJkI=; b=UllOMsUEuWn58AWLeheAzdLFOfbRmiKAzd3Q4XrSDBUSUaZmkOntZ3tuEK3WzinTkg x2a/v9pQX0HpzNZRhKIRarmnrS/xxJnFen7p1YFevUCf7IZuDZcTlkaXVI7DXK4rsAiL Oyeh8aMajLVAhKzfYjcxyoBBCQoMn6pF0IQBY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d87dcRvH9mG3dL0LmgBQ3X/2K1LfwlBIWO0/CCylncmUtHN+PtElzETyn2zH8QiE6o mGMz6z55gsPGqZApLIsksI/fg8uvPU1im/sNDCbtSHnSYubqndpAT5jJcslHw/LiUqIo Lfq8nAdwj0RQDLMQNrTRCl83AYNCA1ES7dji8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:51:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Oh Amazon. Is there anything you can't do? On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Have u tried Amazon - got mine from there > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > On 15 May 2009, at 18:57, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles to > figure out a pitch.=A0 Lower notes are going to inherently have more > latency.=A0 Could be a cool toy for cheap, but here in the U.S. trying > to find a place that sells it is nearly impossible.=A0 The website is a > labyrinth=A0 that goes no where. > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > > Its great man but you need to play clean and its only monopohonic - track= ing > is better on the top strings > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > On 13 May 2009, at 18:42, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Seemed really good.=A0 What do you think of it?=A0 I abandoned hex pickup > guitar synths many moons ago (There's actually a thing called a > keyboard that triggers perfectly! ;) ) but I sometimes think it might > be nice to fool with it. > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raul Bonell wrot= e: > thanks mat ... now at work, later i watch it ...thanks. > 2009/5/13, Matt Stevens : > oops - the link is http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com > I am indeed an idiot > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > Begin forwarded message: > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: Matt Stevens > Date: 13 May 2009 14:05:58 BDT > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Sonuss G2M > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Hey guys > Posted a quick demo for that G2M guitar to midi convertor thing - > very cool - tracking is good. > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 19:47:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24DA13BE7C; Fri, 15 May 2009 19:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4ermPtJLnLwG4x0ua3wasLc4QPzplVvzS3KpXsiIZxk=; b=hQghZsbwOKS8ZkmWzEYFS4h5T/gf67p20VmbbJRap7s10viBQEVTPJZiIe3t/9SvIG LC2Q0VRib20W7Cpy7/Ry1f0S/k5NNm2Ll5rx02/NNcudSZk3NKpVt0ul1v5QGscFc0fU IjD16SaHymf2mbaBOowqSqgHiFe5+HFif2Rzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b9AjK2lsCF8AB2oNSSDhDOX5aOJP+9effYx5LCKnpTPgVDVqCxoc/G3SDjuUO3hCk4 oSnvnSrVhfd8TUh4wuOBShwODFiDa49nPsGkCfOBEq+pXW4glJgQeMWkCw773gDU84Sz kRRuqxKkNtJqF480WYIlXlCUr4QpF12cDV/uU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905151001u65f34f75kb5ed49370e5aeb6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:47:14 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905151247r5d217327y77b4008a24f71c9b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:47:15 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > anyhow, does make sense to put at the end of each track channel an > instance of a dithering plugin while recording > ableton->soundflower->logic? Not any sense that I can see. If it is coming 32 bits that's precisely what Logic handles internally, so I guess dithering would just lower the resolution of the digital audio. You don't have to dither to have audio recorded in Logic, even though one might thinks so since the files are saved on disc as 24 bit resolution. > would this consume lots of CPU power for, > let's say, 8 stereo tracks at once? I still don't understand why you would want to do it - but it doesn't take a lot of CPU cycles to do on-the-fly dithering. I did that in Bidule to have eight stereo files rendered during a looping performance and I wasn't able to see any change in the CPU meter when activating the eight dithering units. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 19:52:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A2913BE86; Fri, 15 May 2009 19:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1TXyXHy0VRb+7XMAzpviux3bjd8pJZyLLAUqz0/HYjg=; b=Uuqb6rvIi50pKHiaa1EoA4gDgSr6gbyYT1wKLivLjJzVbMGZyL4ez8836C+11vi/Od OkYK10W9swZFbB0AwEUPkO9zSUY9PU6zFpvZdBgApXfIu2SDT9KPxUAMzOYR7jk0ZVWm hs/Q2AtA82L20tH6clFHRkKbew98uYQv6fOBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=m34Dzzkprbd86H0mtYMR8az4xZFdrTkcGoQgqAf1J2hOvxvgMZBQ8JsoWDsE3Z0jNZ qhyylWS/n4mlyJxJFWWSXrVm3W3Tg325UMkb8C990wMAyCRBAe0VWXCQxWGoyYgjvJSy EgwxsrS1YO5ua2fyULS+WMj3S2swFLPBm2b7w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:52:04 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905151252t660614eay6bb06a4e652d0e5d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Good article and video presenting Pogue Bidule From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Click here to read and watch--> http://is.gd/nObA "Plogue Bidule Modular Music App: Get Started, Meet the Creators" "Plogue Bidule has achieved much of what it set out to do - smaller learning curve, doing more. The modular future is bright." =E2=80=9CTotal freedom to experiment, and try ideas fast.=E2=80=9D This article and video is a great introduction. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 20:34:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB6333BE85; Fri, 15 May 2009 20:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Question about OSX audio routing Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:34:06 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c9d59c$7ea02a10$040313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnVZcbFpD0XJVm2TMG7YJqb2XaR4AANL+cg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905150702t6580b824id5983dd9c06c9261@mail.gmail.com> X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per. But thinking about it, Apple should release Mainstage 2.0 which you can use within Bidule as au plugin :) --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 20:45:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DF383BE86; Fri, 15 May 2009 20:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WC4/E+Itxc9MWkna7gCMsMSQVwWFaT5s/0gEAQcd2Vs=; b=bITWlm9glfdanV79wMpRd5Ty6BMQU84YWZDNnJnlb1SwyMS8S6Kw1VUYjdrHsrSDa5 ExQIzjpyynBDjlB7VqDmMqa1ZaeI2N+Z476KeImvAiEtMyMSuVR9aQZ/3ODysckcBGoV Gi1QcAaT8WUarAgSKyClBGkItD0+7lNdhNGrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gF6MtTgJJ71zoSsMfBPQRaBa6c1eRHFsgogj9AMHtBrsX9hF+whhANeoN9QO4SOd+1 R8YgVG8q+2nBSVs1leWFI7qXYhMdJ/qZf+bn9n31pgPDlXa0DaSi1DUjSor7PE4j3K10 olNHOHlazy9O8bO0yeBAu2cl38Body6n/vb/A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000401c9d59c$7ea02a10$040313ac@PIPO> References: <66f9cc1e0905150702t6580b824id5983dd9c06c9261@mail.gmail.com> <000401c9d59c$7ea02a10$040313ac@PIPO> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:38:13 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905151338p8bc813es3e5453f4dc6e8d85@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:45:36 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Thanks Per. But thinking about it, Apple should release Mainstage 2.0 which > you can use within Bidule as au plugin :) Sure, you so right about that! But why not use Bidule AU with Mainstage 1.0.2 today? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 21:04:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E2FD3BE90; Fri, 15 May 2009 21:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Question about OSX audio routing Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:03:49 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c9d5a0$a5357f00$040313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnVnhpTqqRn+YFWT6yig71MrttfcQAAZlaA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905151338p8bc813es3e5453f4dc6e8d85@mail.gmail.com> X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:04:17 +0000 (UTC) > But why not use Bidule AU with Mainstage 1.0.2 today? If it doesn't work like you want to, you have to use it like it works. So that's what I'm doing right now ;) --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 22:37:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAA223BE77; Fri, 15 May 2009 22:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tCVCImNxgKUnrQJVHSuGpbUidHicBZGNBysHm4wPsp8=; b=S2GtBvfMK6iiZLNJ6CIoXtn89Ki5q3aQAs/RhiyVemwA6FuyPw9Ue8FOdNs0COlzgc +Eu+SCJx7gWA4sHzu1l6hR0eLVyFz6c8XpojGaAnMLoTcnIr4kmlQ1CobE25CeWuEC9Q yPVTsecI6RdPUHI/jiVrw6QF35bLldDB33Uqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AYDeEWob+THXhbtCqYqO870Bmmh2f6yQQADWOwgWoH/9Fr6xlLG7njr5C4ipo71iIK i7rfr5PuG2KMhDHsdiLcVMoADSro5++46EAUy7hQ7thL6RlrBa4CWCskextjpWVl2GZ4 zOktLQehV0vYVyWZOPRXUiKAdQ6YdAZRaPzQ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905151252t660614eay6bb06a4e652d0e5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905151252t660614eay6bb06a4e652d0e5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:28:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Good article and video presenting Pogue Bidule From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for this Per. I've been sniffing around for something that might be a little lighter in CPU use than Live is and Bidule is on my list of apps to check out. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Click here to read and watch--> =A0 http://is.gd/nObA > > "Plogue Bidule Modular Music App: Get Started, Meet the Creators" > "Plogue Bidule has achieved much of what it set out to do - smaller > learning curve, doing more. The modular future is bright." > =93Total freedom to experiment, and try ideas fast.=94 > > This article and video is a great introduction. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 15 23:10:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D329B3BE77; Fri, 15 May 2009 23:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 15 May 2009 23:10:14 UTC X-Originating-IP: [75.174.125.75] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: , , Subject: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:05:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BB_01C9D57F.4D2C46C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2009 23:05:14.0252 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AF624C0:01C9D5B1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:10:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BB_01C9D57F.4D2C46C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I thought I'd let you know that my new BoiseRadio.org podcast show = debuts tomorrow, Saturday, May 16 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard Time = (MST) Here is my new blog for the show, which includes the playlist. 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Hello all,
 
I thought I'd let you know that my new=20 BoiseRadio.org podcast show debuts tomorrow, Saturday, May 16 from 1-3pm = Mountain Standard Time (MST)
 
Here is my new blog for the show, = which=20 includes the playlist. The link to the podcast will appear after the = show runs=20 live tomorrow.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_01BB_01C9D57F.4D2C46C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 00:07:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FBA03BE78; Sat, 16 May 2009 00:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cOf9NhvCFjlY3hIlzFcMAx178Epg53IRmG/fiQ+kyRs=; b=uzRpTEq2zlN0CCwwBXl0I1OrgbE8w3PydEYsqvqR7Rb78rpktNxnSoNf11W+sfOEKT LlNbtL3ES9YVB7NwHxgSW4FEZ+fdMnFKFpNS7eCHftTNWt24l5WJmRzFpw+4FUnbYOBJ ou27F4vQEJzT+4b06r4UENuaWlgEu8QBk04YA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=K/mk8cVTfJI+GVh0beDFyGtm6etQhkIuFKi6PsjDyDwzj7AUjhF4r+5SQ4pIT5Idyt oiiXEtQNWWYzMV46Kf6ZjRGyh+INIQxVrDD59QxrXRj/X/7snQ7u1Eqm2hKaNtZ30Nhf jlDRgNO1SY8JjuvJZlH27doWnqV9T5MvWR/r0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:06:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 00:07:02 +0000 (UTC) great podcast kris ... ahh and there's our incredible pianist agust=ED fern=E1ndez with missed derek ... i'm subscribing right now. 2009/5/16, Krispen Hartung : > Hello all, > > I thought I'd let you know that my new BoiseRadio.org podcast show debuts > tomorrow, Saturday, May 16 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard Time (MST) > > Here is my new blog for the show, which includes the playlist. The link t= o > the podcast will appear after the show runs live tomorrow. > > http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ > > "FreeWave features music within the free improvisation, electro-acoustic, > experimental, and creative music genres. From the complex and frenzied sa= x > expressions of Evan Parker to the extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, > FreeWave is all this and more, into the obscure and beyond with the new > millennium's creative electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push yo= ur > listening boundaries into new and challenging territories of creative mus= ic. > Not for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWav= e > will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably." > > Cheers, > > Kris > > > Kris Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com > http://b-cimf.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festiva= l/37918746335 > http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival > info@krispenhartung.com > 1-208-724-5603 --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From nelsonmarlindee@cox.net Sat May 16 06:52:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 946 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 16 May 2009 06:52:11 UTC Received: from fed1rmmtai102.cox.net (fed1rmmtai102.cox.net [68.230.241.58]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C4E3BE70 for ; Sat, 16 May 2009 06:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090516063610.TRXW25927.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>; Sat, 16 May 2009 02:36:10 -0400 Received: from fed1rmwml30 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id s6cA1b0034hdPEs036cAMb; Sat, 16 May 2009 02:36:10 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 p=pX8wtdIVM9aPQKgu:21 p=q9SFS9Rh05rQRlht:21 a=sk8hGFwYEQUA:10 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=PGFPUNopb3YLiWGiiVoA:9 a=JHzUaxl3G920tp6I2Za8BB6D7S4A:4 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 X-CM-Score: 93.00 Received: from 69.72.194.90 by webmail.west.cox.net; Sat, 16 May 2009 2:36:10 -0400 Message-ID: <20090516023610.I9S21.332440.imail@fed1rmwml30> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 2:36:10 -0400 From: Chevron Texaco Promo 2009 Reply-To: mreddiecollins2009@8u8.com Subject: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dear Esteemed Winner, You have been selected in the on-going Chevron/Texaco award held this May 2009 and you are to claim the sum of $750,000 USD.it means you are one of the five(5) lucky winners. 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CLAIMS PROCESSING AGENT Emai: eddie.collins_2009@msn.com Mr Eddie Collins You are to contact your claims agent with this details below: NAME IN FULL: DELIVERY ADDRESS: AGE: NATIONALITY: OCCUPATION: PHONE: SEX: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 07:30:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54B6D3BE78; Sat, 16 May 2009 07:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <20090514224325.185570@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Jaco cool loop X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 03:29:53 -0400 References: <20090514224325.185570@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <63WHtB.A.1JC.iumDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:30:42 +0000 (UTC) I am pretty sure he's using an electro harmonix 16 second delay to loop with On May 14, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > PS: any idea on what gear he is using? What's there in his rack? > > Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 08:19:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AF2C3BE7F; Sat, 16 May 2009 08:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A0E770A.6090407@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 04:19:22 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 08:19:34 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, May 16 at 6:00 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 13:30:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A186E3BE72; Sat, 16 May 2009 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 200099533/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.255.72/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.255.72 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhwCAC9dDkpPTv9I/2dsb2JhbAAI0DKEAQWIOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,204,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="200099533" Message-ID: <4A0EC2CA.9010303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:42:34 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Well, I get to test out the Sonuss G2M some time next week. (I have this friend who can't order online). It certainly looks very usable looking at Matt's demo. I'll compare it with the Yamaha G50, which also has a mono input. (as well as Hex) Meanwhile, the G50 can sometimes be found 2nd hand and cheaper than the G2M. It's rackmount, so lacks the G2M's weight/size/neat advantage, but it's a good purchase for midi-toe-in-water, especially as a hex p/u could be added later. Here's one on UK ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-G50-Guitar-Midi-Converter_W0QQitemZ230342858477QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090514?IMSfp=TL090514135001r21098 Mark Sottilaro wrote: > That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles to > figure out a pitch. Lower notes are going to inherently have more > latency. Actually the Axon technology can get it a bit faster than that by looking at the transient produced when the pick strikes the string. (G50 licenses Axon tech). This allows a quick guess which is then adjusted by pitchbend info if needed. I don't know if the G2M has something similar. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 14:44:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E2763BE78; Sat, 16 May 2009 14:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9142 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 16 May 2009 14:44:14 UTC Message-ID: <004a01c9d634$cd43b5e0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: Subject: Even More Virtual Gig Spam: Improvised Cello Looping, Sunday May 17th, 17:00 UTC Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:44:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Hello All, (sending this again as it seemed to vanish into the aether the first time - apologies if it appears twice) Following in the footsteps of the inspirational Matt, Jim, Rainer and others I'm taking the plunge and doing a live cello looping performance tomorrow (17th) at 6:00pm UK time (17:00 UTC). http://tinyurl.com/o6zzjj I'm fortunate that my friend the great Hungarian film maker Agnes Hay http://bit.ly/clCE8 is coming to visit and will wield the camera for me. I've managed to work out how to get stereo sound on Ustream, so I'm hoping it will sound pretty decent. I'm going to try to have a trial run some time today, but not sure if I'll find time, so I just hope it all works ok. It would be great to "see" some of you there and recieve your comments. Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 15:35:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E116D3BE78; Sat, 16 May 2009 15:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5mK3CHU6x6IxYAnbX8w1ZR+itq9tDXtTAF9DDCuqIRA=; b=V6sFNFaUm4/rhlHXgDcpN/oUIAZ2k/53q9dGwDV5wAZBOIy91CGOp6j7F0YYAg3PBw dk4wTgZq2cTEIBEL4fMRtcjA23wXm7vTzg3bNf7+dXiMUWCRiGCwlabM48ffGT2Xp/bM m6hPK+H11jqlMSBxeKB56UO1VHpVFMxprNj54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IfeyHZbDBKB/g5R5uYmck6khbAYfX0zWLkVxeONyGp9LMrRBjdp5JdIShLozz+iKbm QRTua0Zwz3VCSRl1ZJbaWNeKTZSyhz66m94lVsMVcvdoGKtm01/olEmCIHoWOYPoKSdt 5Jg4KgmJ6WWeOUVB7dpsu6fOyf2rvorKhH8jI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004a01c9d634$cd43b5e0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <004a01c9d634$cd43b5e0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:35:07 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905160835w615f99ffoe73513c7d0542723@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Even More Virtual Gig Spam: Improvised Cello Looping, Sunday May 17th, 17:00 UTC From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a72e458380046a094ea8 Resent-Message-ID: <0P_0zB.A.X1E.w0tDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:35:12 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a72e458380046a094ea8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve this is great! that's 12noon here in NY right? welcome to the stage... will catch j On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > Hello All, (sending this again as it seemed to vanish into the aether the > first time - apologies if it appears twice) > > Following in the footsteps of the inspirational Matt, Jim, Rainer and > others I'm taking the plunge and doing a live cello looping performance > tomorrow (17th) at 6:00pm UK time (17:00 UTC). http://tinyurl.com/o6zzjj > > I'm fortunate that my friend the great Hungarian film maker Agnes Hay > http://bit.ly/clCE8 is coming to visit and will wield the camera for me. > > I've managed to work out how to get stereo sound on Ustream, so I'm hoping > it will sound pretty decent. I'm going to try to have a trial run some time > today, but not sure if I'll find time, so I just hope it all works ok. > > It would be great to "see" some of you there and recieve your comments. > > Steve > > > > www.stevemoyes.org.uk > www.creativemusic.org.uk > www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a72e458380046a094ea8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve this is great! =A0that's 12noon here in NY right? =A0welcome to t= he stage... will catch

j

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk<= /a>> wrote:
Hello All, (sending this again as it seemed= to vanish into the aether the first time - apologies if it appears twice)<= br>
Following in the footsteps of the inspirational Matt, Jim, Rainer and other= s I'm taking the plunge and doing a live cello looping performance tomo= rrow (17th) at 6:00pm UK time (17:00 UTC). http://tinyurl.com/o6zzjj

I'm fortunate that my friend the great Hungarian film maker Agnes Hay <= a href=3D"http://bit.ly/clCE8" target=3D"_blank">http://bit.ly/clCE8 is= coming to visit and will wield the camera for me.

I've managed to work out how to get stereo sound on Ustream, so I'm= hoping it will sound pretty decent. I'm going to try to have a trial r= un some time today, but not sure if I'll find time, so I just hope it a= ll works ok.

It would be great to "see" some of you there and recieve your com= ments.

Steve



www.stevemoyes.o= rg.uk
www.creativem= usic.org.uk
www.twitter= .com/SteveMoyes




--
ReUse, an introspective= textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5a72e458380046a094ea8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 15:41:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 734183BE7C; Sat, 16 May 2009 15:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YjR88SeDIbwrhFMuun5rOGFS6+SeGcOb/myB6pISLdg=; b=BE/mr/SYNwQrKi4wUysNEHbMDsmZgqqC/yiVmiJI4lnq9vXxsRTNlHEC4QinHijAlY xDzNpOY/zC4Bwf9v4eb4TumvSUbUJrD0x1om+XAq4B65mxjUwbBKyF/29/+nYlzRc255 l/aoER5weLGNvzdRx6+srC7FzMN5Xv9dWH4dk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xSf5pQjiMnzntGZq8xIl8l4nBfHTU6Tt/U3lmkYq/DernGnPiOsaQDgJ5M+LfvXHt5 VwIUIPFwjHjWX9PL0XBFUlW/2R3pX92WcqPgrMI4yf9TB+K3lEB4hnYkLTfOfl+huij5 OSBpcrbi4sL5bEuClSl44BWhh0gZEc86g2oxk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:41:12 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905160841t415a3200m21135ee50a16d57d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual Gig Reminder: The MoinSound Studio Sessions From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:41:19 +0000 (UTC) ...up in 20 minutes. http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs Best, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 15:50:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B15F63BE79; Sat, 16 May 2009 15:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001001c9d63e$068c8a80$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <004a01c9d634$cd43b5e0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> <9e0440a60905160835w615f99ffoe73513c7d0542723@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Even More Virtual Gig Spam: Improvised Cello Looping, Sunday May 17th, 17:00 UTC Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:50:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Jim. It's 1:00pm NY time. 10:00AM for west coast North America. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Even More Virtual Gig Spam: Improvised Cello Looping, Sunday May 17th, 17:00 UTC Steve this is great! that's 12noon here in NY right? welcome to the stage... will catch j On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: Hello All, (sending this again as it seemed to vanish into the aether the first time - apologies if it appears twice) Following in the footsteps of the inspirational Matt, Jim, Rainer and others I'm taking the plunge and doing a live cello looping performance tomorrow (17th) at 6:00pm UK time (17:00 UTC). http://tinyurl.com/o6zzjj From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 15:54:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B7623BE7C; Sat, 16 May 2009 15:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7T1vuD4g+uKscKm9rSCn2bW1sEtCsakepbwaeQm1SkI=; b=QOTaE2JrAyDHyQBvPOxllwlbN6VFS/mU7ZH+X7RMbITrV/snObYlbgM6TIvaYW1YVZ K8qDXwIli0+lofQKXCuDa8QJvzBCu6QnFw18Zv5K4I6K2kjhNfG4lWZeMr1Lgmg8j+Ap Wh4q4XoL2CjugM712RxCL674rM/0UD2yApF8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZtcGYfuWm976YCmATRfyCLpx0/8u7VK5iKSYQwjippTN1un/5OaJ8hKBybrpGrdb3b Nmt8LgxUM3NX6J+CdjeXWp7KG/mNIuoLduLnQNEPr+/gOoVFQGA/2PZbMKmH+Kquy9Zu trKU2wx0JPRM3pq2/6HrZO5ppOCaLbhz2RDoI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001001c9d63e$068c8a80$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <004a01c9d634$cd43b5e0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> <9e0440a60905160835w615f99ffoe73513c7d0542723@mail.gmail.com> <001001c9d63e$068c8a80$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:54:46 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905160854te71a4aaw25d1111d2ca66120@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Even More Virtual Gig Spam: Improvised Cello Looping, Sunday May 17th, 17:00 UTC From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e5019234ef046a09948a Resent-Message-ID: <5ig5DD.A.PhF.JHuDKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:54:49 +0000 (UTC) --00504502e5019234ef046a09948a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve thanks for clarifying i"ll be there. Look fwd to getting inspiration from your cello... jim On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > Thanks Jim. It's 1:00pm NY time. 10:00AM for west coast North America. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Goodin > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:35 PM > Subject: Re: Even More Virtual Gig Spam: Improvised Cello Looping, Sunday > May 17th, 17:00 UTC > > > > Steve this is great! that's 12noon here in NY right? welcome to the > stage... will catch > > > j > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Steve Moyes < > stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Hello All, (sending this again as it seemed to vanish into the aether the > first time - apologies if it appears twice) > > Following in the footsteps of the inspirational Matt, Jim, Rainer and > others I'm taking the plunge and doing a live cello looping performance > tomorrow (17th) at 6:00pm UK time (17:00 UTC). http://tinyurl.com/o6zzjj > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --00504502e5019234ef046a09948a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve thanks for clarifying i"ll be there. =A0Look fwd to getting insp= iration from your cello... jim

On Sat, Ma= y 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks Jim. It's 1:00pm NY time. 10:00A= M for west coast North America.

----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Even More Virtual Gig Spam: Improvised Cello Looping, Sunday M= ay 17th, 17:00 UTC



Steve this is great! =A0that's 12noon here in NY right? =A0welcome to t= he stage... will catch


j


On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk= > wrote:

Hello All, (sending this again as it seemed to vanish into the aether the f= irst time - apologies if it appears twice)

Following in the footsteps of the inspirational Matt, Jim, Rainer and other= s I'm taking the plunge and doing a live cello looping performance tomo= rrow (17th) at 6:00pm UK time (17:00 UTC). http://tinyurl.com/o6zzjj




--
ReUse, an i= ntrospective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com<= br> www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--00504502e5019234ef046a09948a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 16:06:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6DB83BE81; Sat, 16 May 2009 16:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001901c9d61f$84163d30$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <7334ca1b0905151018mdf80e6frb0968adb310c065a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Even More Virtual Gig Spam: Improvised Cello Looping, Sunday May 17th, 17:00 UTC Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:12:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9D627.E5AFC4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:06:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9D627.E5AFC4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, Following in the footsteps of the inspirational Matt, Jim, Rainer and = others I'm taking the plunge and doing a live cello looping performance = tomorrow (17th) at 6:00pm UK time (17:00 UTC). http://tinyurl.com/o6zzjj I've managed to work out how to get stereo sound on Ustream, so I'm = hoping it will sound pretty decent. I'm going to try to have a trial run = some time today, but not sure if I'll find time, so I just hope it all = works ok. It would be great to "see" some of you there and recieve your comments. Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9D627.E5AFC4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
Following in the footsteps of the inspirational Matt, Jim, Rainer = and=20 others I'm taking the plunge and doing a live cello looping performance = tomorrow=20 (17th) at 6:00pm UK time (17:00 UTC). http://tinyurl.com/o6zzjj
 
I've managed to work out how to get stereo sound on Ustream, so I'm = hoping=20 it will sound pretty decent. I'm going to try to have a trial run some = time=20 today, but not sure if I'll find time, so I just hope it all works = ok.
 
It would be great to "see" some of you there and recieve your=20 comments.
 
Steve
 

www.stevemoyes.org.uk
www.creativemusic.org.uk
www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9D627.E5AFC4A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 17:29:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 760C93BE75; Sat, 16 May 2009 17:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:29:33 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905130156s22a5b3b2t979a69f3bcf082f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090516172933.51740@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A07FC15.8000009@cruzio.com> <023101c9d2f9$797a2ef0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0905120552lb6daf0ax5313b6376758387c@mail.gmail.com> <00d001c9d3a5$795555b0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0905130156s22a5b3b2t979a69f3bcf082f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Cl2oNC43CF2+sNEMvnywMZzNVRLIZ+M0HuEw+e+ +dOrnsZ5FGC+ecJzvcLlyEGkiotldIfpE9hQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: m5NmBw11bHIhftsjwjU0T5UiJihyahCV X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:29:44 +0000 (UTC) ok, in the spriritual realm there are quite a few books (mostly (auto)biographies) that have impressed me. Other then that: - Stephen Covey, 7 Habits of Highly Effective People - Paul Zollo, Songwriters on Songwriting (a MUST for every songwriter!) - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus logico-philosophicus - Anything written by Sir Peter Ustinov - Yehudi Menuhin, Unfinished Journey (Biography) > Makes me > think about that part in Bhagavad-Gita where Krishna tells Arjuna > "it's ok to fight if you do in a spiritual mode". Boy, does that story > stink! Actually, reading "Illusions" by Richard Bach (very short and amusing) was a positive influence for me in that direction. Feels sort of an Aikido attitude. But of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion... :) best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 16 19:12:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B6F73BE73; Sat, 16 May 2009 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=67KboWdj7BdmUhQOPXVMlYpJU5nZ5nugJKevwDRH3RY=; b=de4YGtcpVNkLU0VDt/w24j5K5vcUUBvdZHrgbOMyfZsu1vfjJGPOEixe2iD6rH/UsI V92m+6vm/qkgXKjVm/KB9C/VVVHenLXrAEx+/QOz3B7gTcL3rMBPWOp1tJ0P91puH62/ RAmucQqQN6wlFVDRAaRWlSRFSjRzkdKmyMvM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=F/vwa/TEUqeztL/F3e6Je5ajZPRr2bozu5TrU8dZXtybNxMDK4X5vhVcSKHzkIPCz0 ml0EBJKjAGc6f5x9EFpECvkV4cn01zKpUuKPOr4gFfPi1S43IlRLiF+P2A7rDKnoC8wJ W+nmXaW31Jz1PXgDYsTZq4IuYGBBz997ZlU6c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A0EC2CA.9010303@tiscali.co.uk> References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> <4A0EC2CA.9010303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 12:12:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) :shrug: I don't know. I owned a Yamaha G50 and I noticed higher latency on lower notes. My biggest issue with all pitch to midi converts (hex and mono) is that they're all nice when you're clean picking, but try to do some subtle stuff like a hammer-on ghost note and watch the yodeling begin. The G50 wasn't bad, but not perfect for sure. In the end I just got frustrated and begain using my guitar for guitar sounds (crazy eh?) or heavily effected sounds. Pod Farm has some awesome synth models that track almost perfectly if you're not playing chords. Couple that with a Sustainiac or E-Bow and you're golden. Can you really get a G50 sub $100 these days? Wow. What was deluxe... I think about things like the G2M more as a fun little toy for experiments, but nothing serious. I think if I really wanted to dive back into that world, I'd buy a Starr controller of some sort. For the time being my hunt-and-peck keyboard style seems to work better than any midi guitar on my Novation SL On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:42 AM, andy butler wrote= : > Well, I get to test out the Sonuss G2M some time next week. > (I have this friend who can't order online). > It certainly looks very usable looking at Matt's demo. > > I'll compare it with the Yamaha G50, which also has a mono input. > (as well as Hex) > > Meanwhile, the G50 can sometimes be found 2nd hand and cheaper than the G= 2M. > It's rackmount, so lacks the G2M's weight/size/neat advantage, > but it's a good purchase for midi-toe-in-water, especially as a > hex p/u could be added later. > > Here's one on UK ebay > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-G50-Guitar-Midi-Converter_W0QQitemZ230342858= 477QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090514?IMSfp=3DTL090514135001r21098 > > Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles to >> figure out a pitch. =A0Lower notes are going to inherently have more >> latency. > > Actually the Axon technology can get it a bit faster than that by looking > at the transient produced when the pick strikes the string. (G50 licenses > Axon tech). > This allows a quick guess which is then adjusted by pitchbend info if > needed. > > I don't know if the G2M has something similar. > > > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 00:09:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 971843BE7C; Sun, 17 May 2009 00:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_41cb95e7-116f-4df8-aefd-02e7af1f505e_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: Some more music, "Cougar chasing swan in a dream" (EDP "stutter" between loops) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:09:01 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2009 00:09:01.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEB6B880:01C9D683] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:09:02 +0000 (UTC) --_41cb95e7-116f-4df8-aefd-02e7af1f505e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yet another improvised live looping solo thing The guitar this time with Ji= m Soloways take on the Tele-T27. Starts of showcasing the clean tone a few seconds=2C then overdrive.=20 I experiment with switching between to loops in "stutter" mode on the EDP (= Echoplex Digital Pro) on this one. One take live improvisation=2C no overdu= bs just livelooping.. the alternating between the loops gets my that dreamy= sound.... First attempt with using 2 loops in stutter mode (Am I using the= right EDP terms?) =20 You will understand the agitated thing after the first 2 minutes... I hope= =20 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&songID=3D= 7607609 =20 The title=2C well i thought it sounded dreamy but agitated=2C the amp is a = Cougar the guitar a Swan....=20 (look at the guitar here=2C the bluest guitar in the world?? http://www.jim= soloway.com/CompletedSwans/H202BlueMoto/GalleryH202.htm ) =20 Take care=2C Anders --_41cb95e7-116f-4df8-aefd-02e7af1f505e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yet another improvised live looping solo thing The guitar this time with Ji= m Soloways =3Btake on the Tele-T27.
Starts of showcasing the clean tone a few seconds=2C then overdrive.
I experiment with switching between to loops in "stutter" mode on the EDP (= Echoplex Digital Pro) on this one. One take live improvisation=2C no overdu= bs just livelooping.. the alternating between the loops gets my that dreamy= sound.... First attempt with using 2 loops in stutter mode (Am I using the= right EDP terms?)
 =3B
You will understand the agitated thing after the first 2 minutes... I hope =
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/p= age_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&=3BsongID=3D7607609
 =3B
The title=2C well i thought it sounded dreamy but agitated=2C the amp is a = Cougar the guitar a Swan....
(look at the guitar here=2C the bluest guitar in the world?? http://= www.jimsoloway.com/CompletedSwans/H202BlueMoto/GalleryH202.htm =3B)=
 =3B
Take care=2C


Anders
= --_41cb95e7-116f-4df8-aefd-02e7af1f505e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 05:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4003BE78; Sun, 17 May 2009 05:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=64pYys+88yhEqnR1iHYJK6pTIQSWOAssyHxsUTc6B4M=; b=hdU8tYE7WUTBZ/mFCXjcx2nkBjrxBxekKspC0HIJq736zGxRK3VcDqJ0masUCaLmVF UdjtlmAVlFJ3IvCaNrmk00joWow0hr7gG0Xds2rHeWdv+Wlqz26StqhNzO1K/ir9aY3V rlUYSlXjAERYEvG+qZpZVjV9GIfoggbE3omuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QZ86YWJCf8SRre7KDQ4UU7vVfBqxX6Y8E3r3ei4WX/G+nMvz44fpdTDzYThClgyiIP eyB7QnZFWIS2MKFj3j8xQYwvewHpmUp1wSP8+a9MUajP20boXfjo3d3l8sqmJTQS/j+p fxth+UiCXxgfRlBxT45kASikTBOnpl6w7dIJM= Message-ID: <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:57:50 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 05:57:53 +0000 (UTC) looppool@cruzio.com schrieb: > "Be what you are in the moment. If you are happy, be happy. If you are > angry, be angry" The path had never been about being calm, it had always been about being aware. It is a side effect, that you get rid of your fears. It is the path and not the goal which is important... So Per's experience is one you have while being on the path. Emotions are what they are, even fear, anger etc. It is not a good idea to ignore them, especially fear, anger etc... I'd love to come to Y2K9 and practice on stage with all you enlightened loopers... Btw. I try to find foundations willing to give a travel grant. Any suggestions? Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 05:58:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E11453BE79; Sun, 17 May 2009 05:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rlV8F6Wj0otyFlXuxWVyIcCO49G3OWYGB2OdLunD3d4=; b=x0D8PE0PSktBld9rRELFjfOnNvVaW2EFD0UTz32VyX0AAV0fht7RROAPh2xzlYZmvx PlzRwIEs/jVNUokPJP5ixogxydkjCYhQW1qoLvW7YcnK/iYnjP4ipCRGJETL28D+7lxy WVqKCPYb+K9OLYB4SRBS/BPvDmSr+Ha9AW2dE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uyYdWPXlQbjgPxr9HOxAGrOyhc3Z9D8tSPZVaprMC/uz8lrObe9LQvo0Q9HSi60Pn1 k7EHlHymKk2I43Cnb8vyKEHHDo/FeRk7lX7hdPEec3phrNaPaaYU61sich/55DbW7/wF noEUPLtBYYqgObVf/2W8dBZIGrWq1IXMk6qf8= Message-ID: <4A0FA795.6090503@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:58:45 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In search of a XP program which generates MIDI CCs out of mouse clicks References: <7334ca1b0905140924k204cf837ke052b1af634cf658@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905140924k204cf837ke052b1af634cf658@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1AF4QC.A.MVF.Ye6DKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 05:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill schrieb: > For something I can't tell you about yet, I need a program which does > the following: Max, Pd, Bidule - the common answer to this sort of question, in the end you need to setup any special wishes somehow yourself anyway. It isn't waist of time to dive into one of these... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 06:03:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E88113BE82; Sun, 17 May 2009 06:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.125.75] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:03:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2009 06:03:11.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[28B25410:01C9D6B5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 06:03:12 +0000 (UTC) None. I've read a lot of books on music, but in the end, what has change my musical life is the "doing", not the reading. Ironically, although my personal life is very much guided by theory, philosophy, and science, my music life appears to be guided only by practice and experience. I can't really explain it, but nothing I've ready has really compelled any change in my artistic vision and direction. It is all inner self and experience driven. Anyone else in this category of response? Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 07:09:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 947123BE70; Sun, 17 May 2009 07:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=pCnjSYGTiMsSZLvCErxo+lxQlgayC7MdsJRzh3TJuLM=; b=m1Rgx+EX6cLCRda8vLCy9evY52FvZfXU3P25blci5p3Pd0DYhAjaoG5Ne/5biZnia1 v1cFQ1hXkSq0pHHTNMS0DUoGqzi9xF6ZAR30kTwcfciJkPUHgfqImEWMq65TPhACPufi Ja5hnZmsDoLcUa3ri6d1EZkpe51r4VxyVp8Ls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=SVV7zoVV6SOXJBLDDDJnrS2AdNNck8s/pt7Vqhd9YYkfRJ5X3WWKxNotTCFCNicPaJ S+fKPhAaTvrXsS4aM00wilZmOgBt/wSlnDAnyFsgXdzjCdWelgIyH0FdtcTOwSWcIIaD K8VvqC6DYSCI73cl6gYaBAzuWxLP43jsKrajc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:09:23 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8232f49a4758b5e2 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0905170009l5cdfca17w5c2bc25f10f6dada@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3d62b4dacc046a165c54 Resent-Message-ID: <9QHAHC.A.4BH.6g7DKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:09:46 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3d62b4dacc046a165c54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Its taken me a while to get to this thread: Like Kris, I could say that of course no book is gonna be the same as actually doing music, or experiencing other music. But there certainly are some good books out there that HAVE contributed to my creative life, and I have no doubt that it has filtered to music. These might be The Naked Lunch, William Burroughs, A Humament, Tom Philips, Holy Blood Holy Grail. These are however not music books. The books below reflect some different aspects of my musical life: *Silence: John Cage* Studied at college, continues to be a source of amazement. *John Peel: Mick Wall* I cried when he died, for us in the UK, he simply WAS alternative music for 30 years, (and definitely the sole reason for MY 15 minutes) *Rotten, No Irish - No Blacks - No dogs : John Lydon* I was just too young, but could not avoid head-on the influences of this man, the reason I bought a guitar, like millions of others * Never Enough - The story of The Cure: Jeff Apter* Actually a little bit of MY history. As support for The Cure in 1992, some part of my story is told in the book (mostly by me - I was interviewed and heavily quoted here) * Noise /Music A History: Paul Hegarty* Draws a line thru many musics that I have been fascinated by my entire life, and puts my influences in contexts that even I was not aware of. From The futurists thru Dada, to Stockhausen, the Beatles, Velvets, Kraut, Punk, Lo Fi industrial electronics, Techno, Electronica, Imrov to Noise.... Basically a list of eveything Ive ever been into! A Great Book, but slightly peeved cos I could have written it!!! Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c3d62b4dacc046a165c54 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its taken me a while to get to this thread:
Like Kris, I could say that = of course no book is gonna be the same as actually doing music, or experien= cing other music.
But there certainly are some good books out there that= HAVE contributed to my creative life, and I have no doubt that it has filt= ered to music. These might be The Naked Lunch, William Burroughs, A Humamen= t, Tom Philips, Holy Blood Holy Grail. These are however not music books.
The books below reflect some different aspects of my musical life:
<= br>Silence: John Cage
Studied at college, continues to be a sourc= e of amazement.

John Peel: Mick Wall
I cried when he died,= for us in the UK, he simply WAS alternative music for 30 years, (and defin= itely the sole reason for MY 15 minutes)

Rotten, No Irish - No Blacks - No dogs : John Lydon
I was jus= t too young, but could not avoid head-on the influences of this man, the re= ason I bought a guitar, like millions of others

Never Enough - Th= e story of The Cure: Jeff Apter
Actually a little bit of MY history. As support for The Cure in 1992, some = part of my story is told in the book (mostly by me - I was interviewed and = heavily quoted here)

Noise /Music A History: Paul Hegarty
Draws a line thru many musics that I have been fascinated by my entire life= , and puts my influences in contexts that even I was not aware of. From The= futurists thru Dada, to Stockhausen, the Beatles, Velvets, Kraut, Punk, Lo= Fi industrial electronics, Techno, Electronica, Imrov to Noise.... Basical= ly a list of eveything Ive ever been into!

A Great Book, but slightly peeved cos I could have written it!!!
Mark

--
= www.markfrancombe.com
http:/= /vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/= user/markfrancombe
= http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabe= l.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
--0015174c3d62b4dacc046a165c54-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 10:18:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A2183BE72; Sun, 17 May 2009 10:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 196495770/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.227.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.227.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AisCAHOBD0pPTuPf/2dsb2JhbAAIz0+CNYFMBYg5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,207,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="196495770" Message-ID: <4A0FE724.8090003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:29:56 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> <4A0EC2CA.9010303@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro wrote: > :shrug: I don't know. I owned a Yamaha G50 and I noticed higher > latency on lower notes. Yes, it's still slower on the low notes. Should have made it clear I wasn't disputing that. Just overall faster than if it had to wait for a couple of cycles. I'm pretty certain it's always going to be quicker to identify a higher pitched note whatever method is used. It's also quicker to guess the pitch if you already know the range, so a hex p/u is always going to be faster. > > My biggest issue with all pitch to midi converts (hex and mono) is > that they're all nice when you're clean picking, but try to do some > subtle stuff like a hammer-on ghost note and watch the yodeling > begin. The G50 wasn't bad, but not perfect for sure. In the end I > just got frustrated and begain using my guitar for guitar sounds > (crazy eh?) or heavily effected sounds. Pod Farm has some awesome > synth models that track almost perfectly if you're not playing chords. > Couple that with a Sustainiac or E-Bow and you're golden. Me too :-) tho' I didn't get on with any of the synth modellers I've actually tried (Line6 + Behringer). > > Can you really get a G50 sub $100 these days? Wow. What was deluxe... I got mine for 70 GBP a while back, and I saw one going for that a couple of years ago. The ebay one is 50 GBP starting price with 3 days to go. andy > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:42 AM, andy butler wrote: >> >> Here's one on UK ebay >> >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-G50-Guitar-Midi-Converter_W0QQitemZ230342858477QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090514?IMSfp=TL090514135001r21098 >> >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >>> That makes sense as you need at least a couple of wave cycles to >>> figure out a pitch. Lower notes are going to inherently have more >>> latency. >> Actually the Axon technology can get it a bit faster than that by looking >> at the transient produced when the pick strikes the string. (G50 licenses >> Axon tech). >> This allows a quick guess which is then adjusted by pitchbend info if >> needed. >> >> I don't know if the G2M has something similar. >> >> >> >> andy butler >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 10:24:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06C4B3BE79; Sun, 17 May 2009 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eAfYUWytMPkm2wFH0W9992UV7luvkQMcoYyv6PUaMkM=; b=A2KGtP7OM/QKPQAc6CWcq92//6bq8ISmfe/jqj0KDtGj8lA7eK42LJnIsJiOiaMiKO 1MJTDa4whq0gbJEyfYOIqjHcyIQXT+9uP4dRpWn54HzXawOKpV1bmLV4SUSa9t8guf2C lE36KWZKC4qc5YLdQ6Qo+nc8WJ/YZeVi4yA+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kSv6BxaiXqMYuQ8C6k9Jh9BUkDZHfKjZd3xQAS7SnTwahGMMuL/2b7KqF03gecXHpd L+hMcn3cOGDPazx44gPI21wm1joC59XyWn9YplaE+1V8N1RSlkV8myeLwc0gVyLvtlf9 RbYFy4MJ8LN9V60CvgVLgw2d+7gmYoFNqbsQE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:24:21 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905170324j38b8dbf8p7a8d9c6d1e8f5cf4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Some more music, "Cougar chasing swan in a dream" (EDP "stutter" between loops) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > You will understand the agitated thing after the first 2 minutes... I hop= e > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&songID= =3D7607609 Great listening! I think the part around 4-5 minutes is best. The feel with that tritonus scale (or whatever it is....) is so cool and just the perfect mash-up material. It actually starts at 2 minutes as you said. > The title, well i thought it sounded dreamy but agitated, the amp is a > Cougar the guitar a Swan.... > (look at the guitar here, the bluest guitar in the world?? > http://www.jimsoloway.com/CompletedSwans/H202BlueMoto/GalleryH202.htm=C2= =A0) What a beauty! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 11:48:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D0BD3BE77; Sun, 17 May 2009 11:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090517114202774.BD1271C00089@mwinf2341.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: CME UF5 Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:41:15 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:48:10 +0000 (UTC) I have a CME UF5 MIDI keyboard controller I'd like to part with - I've actually never used it. If anyone here is interested, let me know. I live in France if you'd like to figure shipping costs. Thanks, Doc Rossi From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 12:33:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCBE33BE75; Sun, 17 May 2009 12:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ilzcrZiwYyebnZw1MQzX+movcGISVt9Tln7OyJwUSa1gkEEkDw7gM48PhYYPxjx2D+5N8BWvKqqCK5k399Yvv5Iyil2koK25iRYrJUKoqXdGmL51vRcg3ic5aKf3SYRc; Message-ID: <20090517073355.62pd45gs8wgg4kow@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:33:55 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Kris, While I have read a lot of books, none of them have really brought =20 about pivotal changes in my work. I can remember a few events that really shook me up: 1) hearing the Wendy Carlos' Moog Synthesizer performance on =20 "Switched-on Bach" 2) the first time I heard a working MIDI setup (at the "Universal =20 Language Music Center" in Davie, Florida) 3) discovering the work of Steve Reich 4) discovering theremin performances of Clara Rockwell Now, I listen to much more than these performers however these are =20 specific instances -- I can recall the time and place -- where to hear =20 something caused a paradigm-shift. One book that shook me up, though, was "Animal Farm" by George Orwell. =20 As I read the passage wherein the old workhorse, Boxer, is being =20 hauled off to the glue factory I actually stood up and screamed -- =20 that really pissed me off that they treated him with such callousness. =20 I can't say many books have had that effect on me. However, I don't think "Animal Farm" influenced my music-making. -- Kevin Quoting Krispen Hartung : > > None. I've read a lot of books on music, but in the end, what has > change my musical life is the "doing", not the reading. Ironically, > although my personal life is very much guided by theory, philosophy, > and science, my music life appears to be guided only by practice and > experience. I can't really explain it, but nothing I've ready has > really compelled any change in my artistic vision and direction. It is > all inner self and experience driven. 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------=_Part_4037_17712009.1242572601436-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 16:18:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE06D3BE77; Sun, 17 May 2009 16:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.125.75] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com><4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> <20090517073355.62pd45gs8wgg4kow@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:18:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2009 16:18:43.0430 (UTC) FILETIME=[25B99060:01C9D70B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Animal Farm...that's a good one. I guess I have a lot of favorites too, they are just broader than music, and probably influence my music in more subtle and indirect ways. This is my list of favorites: http://www.krispenhartung.com/personal/books.html K- ----- Original Message ----- Kris, While I have read a lot of books, none of them have really brought about pivotal changes in my work. I can remember a few events that really shook me up: 1) hearing the Wendy Carlos' Moog Synthesizer performance on "Switched-on Bach" 2) the first time I heard a working MIDI setup (at the "Universal Language Music Center" in Davie, Florida) 3) discovering the work of Steve Reich 4) discovering theremin performances of Clara Rockwell Now, I listen to much more than these performers however these are specific instances -- I can recall the time and place -- where to hear something caused a paradigm-shift. One book that shook me up, though, was "Animal Farm" by George Orwell. As I read the passage wherein the old workhorse, Boxer, is being hauled off to the glue factory I actually stood up and screamed -- that really pissed me off that they treated him with such callousness. I can't say many books have had that effect on me. However, I don't think "Animal Farm" influenced my music-making. -- Kevin Quoting Krispen Hartung : > > None. I've read a lot of books on music, but in the end, what has > change my musical life is the "doing", not the reading. Ironically, > although my personal life is very much guided by theory, philosophy, > and science, my music life appears to be guided only by practice and > experience. I can't really explain it, but nothing I've ready has > really compelled any change in my artistic vision and direction. It is > all inner self and experience driven. Anyone else in this category of > response? > > Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 16:47:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3363BE79; Sun, 17 May 2009 16:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200905171647.n4HGlsdK005835@pro51.abac.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:47:54 CDT Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Importance: normal From: "adrian@bartholomusic.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: <7LCGuD.A.pkB.9-DEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Atlas Shrugged. Nuff said. -----Original Message----- Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:33:55 am To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Kris, While I have read a lot of books, none of them have really brought about pivotal changes in my work. I can remember a few events that really shook me up: 1) hearing the Wendy Carlos' Moog Synthesizer performance on "Switched-on Bach" 2) the first time I heard a working MIDI setup (at the "Universal Language Music Center" in Davie, Florida) 3) discovering the work of Steve Reich 4) discovering theremin performances of Clara Rockwell Now, I listen to much more than these performers however these are specific instances -- I can recall the time and place -- where to hear something caused a paradigm-shift. One book that shook me up, though, was "Animal Farm" by George Orwell. As I read the passage wherein the old workhorse, Boxer, is being hauled off to the glue factory I actually stood up and screamed -- that really pissed me off that they treated him with such callousness. I can't say many books have had that effect on me. However, I don't think "Animal Farm" influenced my music-making. -- Kevin Quoting Krispen Hartung : > > None. I've read a lot of books on music, but in the end, what has > change my musical life is the "doing", not the reading. Ironically, > although my personal life is very much guided by theory, philosophy, > and science, my music life appears to be guided only by practice and > experience. I can't really explain it, but nothing I've ready has > really compelled any change in my artistic vision and direction. It is > all inner self and experience driven. Anyone else in this category of > response? > > Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 17:08:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 848013BE73; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 200190963/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.227.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.227.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqECAJbhD0pPTuPf/2dsb2JhbAAI0AmEAQWIOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,208,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="200190963" Message-ID: <4A104772.30204@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:50 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Yep, same here as far as music being influenced by reading. If I'm listening to music that offers no more than it's verbal description I feel cheated. andy butler Krispen Hartung wrote: > None. I've read a lot of books on music, but in the end, what has change > my musical life is the "doing", not the reading. Ironically, although > my personal life is very much guided by theory, philosophy, and science, > my music life appears to be guided only by practice and experience. I > can't really explain it, but nothing I've ready has really compelled any > change in my artistic vision and direction. It is all inner self and > experience driven. Anyone else in this category of response? > > Kris > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 17:11:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACD7A3BE78; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.125.75] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <200905171647.n4HGlsdK005835@pro51.abac.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:11:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2009 17:11:55.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[9472E270:01C9D712] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:11:56 +0000 (UTC) I thought rational objectivism was passé. ;) ----- Original Message ----- > Atlas Shrugged. Nuff said. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 17:12:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 700433BE81; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3246 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:12:05 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:11:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Looping shoes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't have to play festivals and other dangerous environments with stocking feet? I need to be able to feel those little buttons with my toes. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 17:32:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B9DA3BE78; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=NRVWjvtTY5hSPmrssCc26/wUy5zDdbMg3c3CZAbapSbAN8ELLA2DTqZX5XkfFxceH0uQUMhxChlv6nW5OZRji1jxLMEq2NEOQ6EIzWyNYQxrkDtayhrvCFq/bDgRfyVcrsBknZJQZsYyFwtLMINpbYQa7R/V3mffRYMCmpCbtw8= ; X-YMail-OSG: h3EZg7AVM1mFyHbLT6g9uIpdV.lkVNodDly0o0W3ONqCKnxpyx9CEurxwxIX6TRrpqWC67TDpWmBCzjwun3OMZ2488yVDBBl.lgs6Or8rliUEltpHCXA59bBKOohvsVN.bZxpNBRCOE3IIUT8rQI.hvV0a82jmGHuudXOlcR4_lL82vPBen8dwihPRiRRpE.ju9tJY7rY4MGwBJWGkOIpTbOcsMRPkM0V3t6UyEfhlyOHlLe7gP6_c4._Hs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-133826339 Message-Id: <8B3A560B-65D3-4DD3-AA0B-11F5EF17C887@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Looping shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:31:54 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:32:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-133826339 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Flip flops? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 17 May 2009, at 17:11, David Gans wrote: > > > Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't > have to play festivals and other dangerous environments with > stocking feet? I need to be able to feel those little buttons with > my toes. > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > --Apple-Mail-2-133826339 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Flip flops?
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 17 May 2009, = at 17:11, David Gans wrote:



Anyone got = any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't have to play = festivals and other dangerous environments with stocking feet?=A0 I need to be able to feel = those little buttons with my toes.




--=A0

Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, = Oakland CA 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-2-133826339-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 17:33:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ACD23BE79; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 486 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:33:40 UTC Message-ID: From: "BC" To: References: Subject: Re: Looping shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:25:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:33:40 +0000 (UTC) I was thinking of investing in soft-soled moccasins myself. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gans" > > Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't > have to play festivals and other dangerous environments with stocking > feet? I need to be able to feel those little buttons with my toes. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 17:38:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A36D3BE7C; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.125.75] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <8B3A560B-65D3-4DD3-AA0B-11F5EF17C887@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Looping shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:38:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C9D6E3.FD23EC80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2009 17:38:27.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[49317480:01C9D716] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:38:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C9D6E3.FD23EC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You gotta check these out. http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/ Kris On 17 May 2009, at 17:11, David Gans wrote: Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't = have to play festivals and other dangerous environments with stocking = feet? I need to be able to feel those little buttons with my toes. --=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C9D6E3.FD23EC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You gotta check these out.
 
 
Kris
 


 
On 17 May 2009, at 17:11, David Gans wrote:


Anyone got any ideas about shoes with = really thin=20 soles so I don't have to play festivals and other dangerous = environments=20 with stocking feet?  = I need to=20 be able to feel those little buttons with my toes.




-- 

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. = #102,=20 Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog: =20 http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/= dgans
Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans<= /A>




------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C9D6E3.FD23EC80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 18:12:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DCAE3BE78; Sun, 17 May 2009 18:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 197255614/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.227.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.227.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQCAIvwD0pPTuPf/2dsb2JhbAAIkG+/HIQBBYg5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,208,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="197255614" Message-ID: <4A10565E.1010908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:24:30 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping shoes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Tai Chi slippers? These have either fabric or tougher synthetic soles. I use the synthetic ones so the Gordius LG buttons can't slip between my toes. Fabric ones may be good for your application. andy David Gans wrote: > > > Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't have > to play festivals and other dangerous environments with stocking feet? > I need to be able to feel those little buttons with my toes. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 18:37:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EAC23BE77; Sun, 17 May 2009 18:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YYLnm4OUovIEttH5C3MSfSPwlaRLPZYim3kEn8NzE1Q=; b=tGJz9vuvMMAMer2iHdHDMG2SHjn/GY43Nn0/XnMDdjxtU8nO+sXlMCTQpp1+hpafQA Ef5IkJCePAIEat0SUAbpW0K+ym8KFNRHIMtw2FKZBHvlMSdFr6v3Y06d9a4t5ghm0klc 1MDiBl1U9F5+iiSoZ5YIQQdzp03hrieP3r4IE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZWE4TG64GC9acRMk2HeMOjfUz2ZYlcFsuJ8P35B0UZNgf0HH7+CATRF/YlmNUMa51q KIosCxy00QFyEZubZ/pNv0PXP4bk2njSBPJomrAODg2iKo/+JLjvis+X4GCY6yG9ioP3 jz4E5koHYfhMQvpEYdxo/qIvXbMpa0Vw9++ZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A10565E.1010908@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A10565E.1010908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:37:06 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 41e07fc73dae1b33 Message-ID: <37f071c00905171137x6dfab5a6y99bb893afc8c8baf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping shoes From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:37:08 +0000 (UTC) These always seemed like a good idea though I've never gotten around to trying a pair http://www.amazon.com/Ninja-High-Top-Tabi-Boot/dp/B0000C4JXX Kevin > David Gans wrote: >> >> >> Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't have = to >> play festivals and other dangerous environments with stocking feet? =A0I= need >> to be able to feel those little buttons with my toes. >> >> >> >> > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 20:07:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D80743BE79; Sun, 17 May 2009 20:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: looper's delight list In-reply-to: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Subject: Re: Looping shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:06:57 -0400 References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Camper piu Teddy Kumpel http://teddyjam.com On May 17, 2009, at 12:11 PM, David Gans wrote: > > > Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't > have to play festivals and other dangerous environments with > stocking feet? I need to be able to feel those little buttons with > my toes. > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 20:40:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 145453BE78; Sun, 17 May 2009 20:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=LgTb4g0ZnT0HijfRStSleoFK8bG+hgJMR8OFOkOFqKhCFV10qs7/1JX0/9jCAP+lp3ZlmkxTwQTYgwlUIcoLbfKbewU3Avf2OZHVeFYDIsBcRTcjTjSNgDv4yDnuMiwDnIMuqYrr2yfl/1AhQ68efkYSSVIeson9+sU9XfCnp4o= ; X-YMail-OSG: cTNSYLQVM1m7k4rk5zHXZNw8ZKluaRxpDSYL.eSHjlvcurd.1yMW9nvUmWQHwHKOGlvfA5KfZFNwdKHCm9dcoDF5J_GlaNCXG4_VPzOt9PykkJuGu5lEMFfK9aXJtHiSvUHsoFMlNZ_YURuNXPQFfDbldFkeEpLR_exiZVsHt1M_VnYhgaVX5dNYP5gcgl4DL3y.BD.HM9AU5j0IqwhT52vfAVz13w2DGBwG8Xq8N3PHV5zDcMhkds8Rmlx2cFI7vIyOCpkQJcNudTW55oJtCepXAtuoVt2JoR01b39KCk_rTDL8182TFNdApaOmoed5ngtYNlu.T0AlgLPY1t5WdFVxVjBF X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4A10565E.1010908@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A10565E.1010908@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-145151646 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Looping shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:40:40 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:40:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-145151646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I have to use converse Deck shoes - my Dalek slippers are a nightmare. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 17 May 2009, at 19:24, andy butler wrote: > Tai Chi slippers? > > These have either fabric or tougher synthetic soles. > I use the synthetic ones so the Gordius LG buttons can't slip > between my toes. > Fabric ones may be good for your application. > andy > > > David Gans wrote: >> Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't >> have to play festivals and other dangerous environments with >> stocking feet? I need to be able to feel those little buttons >> with my toes. > --Apple-Mail-3-145151646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to use converse Deck shoes - my Dalek slippers are a = nightmare.

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On 17 May 2009, = at 19:24, andy butler wrote:

Tai Chi slippers?

These have = either fabric or tougher synthetic soles.
I use = the synthetic ones so the Gordius LG buttons can't slip between my = toes.
Fabric ones may be good for your = application.=A0
andy


David Gans wrote:
Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin = soles so I don't have to play festivals and other dangerous environments = with stocking feet?=A0 I = need to be able to feel those little buttons with my toes.
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= --Apple-Mail-3-145151646-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 21:02:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 994E63BE77; Sun, 17 May 2009 21:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Looping shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:02:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Footwear . . . What I've been wearing for a number of years now for pedal-intensive guitar performance has been those "surf sox" or "water socks" that you can get at the sporting goods store for $15 or less (in some cases $10 and at certain times of the year). They're made for folks who do water sports like wind-surfing, kayaking, jet-skiing, etc, and need who a bit more grip than the bare human foot can provide on a wet surface (and just a tiny bit of protection too). The soles are very thin flexible rubber and the uppers are light-weight stretchy material - a bit like wearing a low cut black sock that has a thin version of a tennis shoe tread molded on the bottom. They work well and will keep you from conducting electrical current if you touch something electrically "hot" too. The main joy is that they're cheap and you can feel the buttons very precisely. The only downside is that much street wear will ruin them in next to no time at all. Example, recently in Boise for B-CIMF I was asked to go to dinner after my Saturday afternoon set and I forgot (or neglected) to change back into my street shoes first. Well, I nearly walked the soles right off my "looping shoes" when I got back to the venue I had to basically throw them away. Also, they're great if you have big feet like me (size 15). But, needless to say, they offer no arch support at all, which also works against much street use. I've found they work quite handily wear quite a while if worn only when I need them. Good luck, Ted Killian On May 17, 2009, at 9:11 AM, David Gans wrote: > > > Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't > have to play festivals and other dangerous environments with stocking > feet? I need to be able to feel those little buttons with my toes. > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 17 22:14:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1DCB3BE77; Sun, 17 May 2009 22:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A108C4D.109@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:14:37 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping shoes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:14:46 +0000 (UTC) I love this thread oh so much. Not just for the title, but for that fact that people have numerous helpful and well-thought-out solutions backed by experience. On this, the loopiest week of my life (reviewing and editing 99 tape loops for my Miniatures project which is almost done), I really have needed the entertainment. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Footwear . . . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 00:59:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA39D3BE7C; Mon, 18 May 2009 00:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/qH7247v26wE85/2sShkxith3FqaX7gVFhtmYjGhIWg=; b=mx4HnIoQ7qddePVgUMlBR/TbgCFZqctJ+XpTY1bNlqdOo5Fp6Jbg8uhK/gK1eBeXO0 Aa0+tdTTQq3J5ZS4i+V6sOXS68mjsUlN0q0SQ/n8TyVRPZRJH3k0K6FgcJKTZ4EVOdLw qleGodtFVQY4AziovO2gf/8CI6oe2r6vv2ZM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LFo2jsTYSzufgjB9uS1ztzcM/aY5XJpd/0BZX2p5FjLqA/n5VKE8N1wHLqW/FV/PyI f5IEip4xHwmgyvgykfmUp2pLP+H+XKf2YiNHXaWHIazqK5FPgBkluk/KTyplZ9kqJQbv +iBJjxsxeMmXSYn3Dyxfm1cvUffPqJq/lFaGk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A108C4D.109@mhorse.com> References: <4A108C4D.109@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:59:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping shoes From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 00:59:32 +0000 (UTC) I've never been that picky about what shoes I wore, but as a rule I like Tsubos for such things. Very comfortable and smart looking footwear. http://www.tsubo.com/index.aspx?cid=ggl_ppc&utm_source=ggl&utm_medium=ppc&s_kwcid=tsubo|3202100000 On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I love this thread oh so much. Not just for the title, but for that fact > that people have numerous helpful and well-thought-out solutions backed by > experience. On this, the loopiest week of my life (reviewing and editing 99 > tape loops for my Miniatures project which is almost done), I really have > needed the entertainment. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > >> Footwear . . . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 01:13:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B9833BE7F; Mon, 18 May 2009 01:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ucWiFB355t+AmGNinx9MFm4Evek7Tgj/ciVccwCvHxY=; b=jyhPCsYu9VxIYQgEb8JnHjF4xUFQinvqsovOFpXNc1xJ4rAubHpVFV7uU4oH2QnAlp dWoR46kUoYR9Fa1i8+XyfGlbYlnwAB3gRpl35GiPHuqOUWGzWMBOBMIimsp7Db8Q5l4j HgHRnV3I93lfjHiLLijmVvA/dSZ4SKjuP5u/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tND3r8iEU6rJKkXJro1k4FkNKzLPks+qyc30xNuIVsWU4aDeaRocHNTjyCHVGNSYCv NwZ4LHREKdnNNQ1Lu+Th/g8gc4+b9AFAqgYHdzTFyG71KMVIqfbCAV8dRaV3WKB41ivq 3sexDVFmEhg+1K30z1C3GXatyhcwgn44fLNu0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A0FE724.8090003@tiscali.co.uk> References: <03BDE1EB-F584-47F0-8D8F-309C835E4BD9@btinternet.com> <4A0EC2CA.9010303@tiscali.co.uk> <4A0FE724.8090003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:13:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuss G2M From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 01:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, that makes sense. If it's coming off a guitar string chances are it's probably going to be one of 22 notes, eh? Or somewhere in between. But the delay isn't want really bothers me. I can get used to that. It's the yodeling as the note trails off. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:29 AM, andy butler wrote= : > Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> :shrug: I don't know. =A0I owned a Yamaha G50 and I noticed higher >> latency on lower notes. > > Yes, it's still slower on the low notes. > Should have made it clear I wasn't disputing that. > Just overall faster than if it had to wait for a couple of cycles. > I'm pretty certain it's always going to be quicker to identify > a higher pitched note whatever method is used. > > > It's also quicker to guess the pitch if you already know the range, > so a hex p/u is always going to be faster. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 01:43:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBA9D3BE7C; Mon, 18 May 2009 01:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A10BDFE.20408@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:46:38 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping shoes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 01:43:31 +0000 (UTC) David Gans wrote: > > > Anyone got any ideas about shoes with really thin soles so I don't have > to play festivals and other dangerous environments with stocking feet? > I need to be able to feel those little buttons with my toes. Auto racing shoes, for example: http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=2185 OK, they're expensive, but the soles are very thin, and they're also fire-resistant, for those times when a performance goes horribly wrong. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 02:14:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 927823BE80; Mon, 18 May 2009 02:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3742 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 18 May 2009 02:14:26 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4A108C4D.109@mhorse.com> References: <4A108C4D.109@mhorse.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-16-161456104 Message-Id: From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: Looping shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:12:24 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:14:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-16-161456104 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Come back with me to a simpler time when KC and the Sunshine Band ruled the earth. I'm sorry but it had to be done... Girl, To Be With You Is My Fav'rite Thing Uh Huh And I Can't Wait Til I See You Again Yeah, Yeah I Want To Put On My My My My My Looping Shoes Just To Loop With You, Yeah I Want To Put On My My My My My Looping Shoes Just To Loop With You,Uh Huh I Want To Do It 'til The Sun Comes Up Uh Huh, And I Want To Do It 'til I Can't Get Enough, Yeah, Yeah I Want To Put On My My My My My Looping Shoes Just To Loop With You, Yeah I Want To Put On My My My My My Looping Shoes Just To Loop With You Uh Huh, Yeah Yeah I Want To Put On My My My My My Looping Shoes Just To Loop, With You, Yeah I Want To Put On My My My My My Looping Shoes Just To Loop With You, Yeah --Apple-Mail-16-161456104 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1


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= --Apple-Mail-16-161456104-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 02:40:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C13FA3BE7C; Mon, 18 May 2009 02:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A10CA92.9060201@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:40:18 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Ou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:40:22 +0000 (UTC) I have to say that reading Ashley Kahn's book "The Making of Kind Of Blue" really had a huge impact on me. Some of it was just discovering that Ravel, Bill Evans and finally Miles had been hearing the exact same thing that I've been hearing in my head for many years (and that is a lot of suspended chords that don't necessarily resolve) gave me a feeling of validation. Because I was involved early on with Balinese, African, Caribbean, Middleastern and Indian musics (filtered through my love of a lot of progressive pop musics, from prog rock to fusion to art rock to arty new wave) , my entrance into the world of melody was colored by a great love of scalar or modal playing. though I learned modern Jazz theory (or some of it, at least) in College, I mostly learned how to spell chords and understand how harmony functioned but never went through the regimin of either classical chordal theory or jazz chordal theory. Essentially, it was becoming a live looper that forced me into playing more and more melodic instruments and I had a very simple and naive approach of using the African paradigm of lining up a whole lot of synchronized and arranged ostinato lines, melodically.................I started with Bass so everything was linear. But from an early age, the harmonies of Ravel, Ralph Vaugh Williams, Aaron Copland, Debussy, Satie as well as the modalism of the whole early ECM jazz scene really appealed to me. At the same time I read Ashley Kahn's book (which to this day in my life was the best music reading experience I've ever had, as I bought the new remastered version of Kind of Blue and guiltily listened and slowly read about it's making) I also saw a wonderful documentary on the live of Joni Mitchell, (I've always loved her music). In it, she said that Wayne Shorter (tracking on her historic recording of Mingus with the dying Charles Mingus) told her that she should really consider resolving her famous altered tuning suspended chords with a major chord so that some resolution should occur. He was being critical of her tendency to use a suspended chord followed by a suspended chord. She said that when she wrote those songs that her life was far from resolved emotionally and that she wanted to reflect her life and feelings in her music. When she said that I sighed a sigh of relief and thought, "exactly"!!!! For some reasons a lot of normal chord progressions just don't do anything for me emotionally. I don't think I've ever written a tune using Ionian as an example.....................give me that raised four or that flatted seventh at least, for some emotional complexity. So, yeah, that was long extended way of saying, "The Making of Kind Of Blue" by Ashley Kahn really influenced me or perhaps validated me. He has written another one on the making of "A Love Supreme" by Coltrane, but much as I like that piece of music, it is not as compelling to me , theoretically, as Miles's excursion in Kind of Blue. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 02:45:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1993B3BE7C; Mon, 18 May 2009 02:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 18 May 2009 02:45:50 UTC Message-id: <4A10BDBD.50606@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:45:33 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Weird Looping Guy Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:45:50 +0000 (UTC) http://youtube.com/watch?v=D0u5eeXANfU Weird yet compelling. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 02:46:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 872163BE78; Mon, 18 May 2009 02:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_865f0b76-8f64-42e3-a671-53336d705fc7_" X-Originating-IP: [63.249.108.250] From: samba - To: Subject: Loop Shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:46:50 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090518021427.368033BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090518021427.368033BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2009 02:46:50.0525 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4FBE4D0:01C9D762] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:46:51 +0000 (UTC) --_865f0b76-8f64-42e3-a671-53336d705fc7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm amazed at how much the hightop tabi are going for=2CI used to get 'e= m in Chinatown for 12 bucks. I prefer no shoes for looping.This idea came up before and some people s= eemed to think being barefoot would make them feel silly and adversely aff= ect their reputations. Ithink it's fairly obvious that public looping is so= inherently silly that anyone who displays such behaviors has probably alre= ady spent any reputation he/she might have enjoyed. --_865f0b76-8f64-42e3-a671-53336d705fc7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B I'm amazed at how much the hightop tabi are going for=2CI = used to get 'em in Chinatown for 12 bucks.
 =3B =3B I prefer no = shoes for looping.This idea came up before and some people seemed to think = being barefoot would make them feel silly =3B and adversely affect thei= r reputations. Ithink it's fairly obvious that public looping is so inheren= tly silly that anyone who displays such behaviors has probably already spen= t any reputation he/she might have enjoyed.
= --_865f0b76-8f64-42e3-a671-53336d705fc7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 02:49:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDB313BE80; Mon, 18 May 2009 02:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: re: Looping shoes Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:49:53 -0700 Message-ID: <7E1D4ACFA0CC491FA14F7B1FDB65C613@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9D728.A8AEC720" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnXY1Hezq7ZVYyITb+qfrox9rKFkg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:49:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9D728.A8AEC720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit These have always worked for me, http://www.halloweencostumes.com/acc-kiss-demon-boots.html but seriously David, I think, having read most of these threads, Krispen 's idea looks most intriguing, kind of like having webbed feat (which I've always wanted to have). Krispen have you actually used these things? Vibram has been the soul of choice for climbers and hikers for decades, and these look tre' cool in a Gollum sort of way. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9D728.A8AEC720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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but seriously David, I think, having read most of = these threads, Krispen ‘s idea looks most intriguing, kind of like = having webbed feat (which I’ve always wanted to have). Krispen have you = actually used these things? Vibram has been the soul of choice for climbers and = hikers for decades, and these look tre’ cool in a Gollum sort of = way…

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9D728.A8AEC720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 02:55:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B7803BE82; Mon, 18 May 2009 02:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A10CE18.5040607@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:55:20 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Stacking Static Parts and 100% Feedback in live looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:55:24 +0000 (UTC) In the books that have influenced your music thread, I talked about really enjoying Ashley Kahn's wonderful book on the making of 'Kind of Blue' by Miles Davis. Davis embraced modalism because it finally gave the soloist control over determining harmony as opposed to the comping instruments or the 'tune'. He felt that with Bop and Post Bop that the role of soloist had been relegated to commenting on chordal changes that were laid down by either the composition or by the chordal compers aesthetic Later, he was the first person (to my knowledge) who used percussion tape loops when he recorded 'In A Silent Way'. He did this for the same reason: By not having to groove, the percussionist was freed to comment more and to be able to play more freely and creatively. I realize that , for me, this is one of the most compelling reasons why I love to do live looping: As a minimalistic/pocket grooving drummer/percussionist...........one who really loved the drumbeat much more than the fills that people used to augment it (or to just get away from it's tyranny), I felt liberated to lay down a groove that gave me the freedom to do something else. It liberated me to be far more creative and eventually led me to picking up dozens of different melodic instruments to see what I could get, naively, from them. Looping can allow us to morph arrangements........to shift from very conventional things to very unconventional approaches or vice versa in the middle of a realtime composition. Because I use a lot of feedback set to 100%, the stasis of parts is able to morph precisely because of you put on top of them subsequently. I don't think my approach is better than anyone else's, however. I see a lot of wonderful artists use variable feedback to create all kinds of interesting morphings in their live looping work (my brother, Matthias Grob, Andy Butler, Per Boysen, et. al.) but I keep finding more and more things to do just by using starkly naked loops that don't morph over time but that are, through arrangement, recontextualized because of the parts that end up on top of them. The desire to escape boring oneself is a great motivator. With the stasis of stacked parts coming from 100% feedback approaches the emphasis necessarily falls on choosing new timbres, exploiting new timbres from traditional sources and various forms of analogue and digital processing before or after the loop. It's funny, but I've actually thought about not taking expression pedals for the LP-1 on my tour to specifically force myself into more of a box that needs to be climbed out of. I don't know.........perhaps I'll break down and bring them Also, perhaps, I'll start learning some of those very cool approaches that my brother has been using with variable feedback replaces in his music after the tour. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 03:32:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F1233BE7E; Mon, 18 May 2009 03:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A10D6E0.8030408@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:32:48 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: looping shoes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_XI4QB.A.OeH.lbNEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 03:32:53 +0000 (UTC) In the 80's I used to use Capezio dance shoes for really rapid single bass drum rolls. They still make them and they are very simple with very thin soles...........excellent for playing footpedals. Just go to their Capezio website. On their clearance page, they have a pair of black ones that are only $20 (but only in sizes that go up to an 8 for men's which is my size but pretty small) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 04:14:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78A043BE7F; Mon, 18 May 2009 04:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 18 May 2009 04:14:31 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: <4A10CA92.9060201@cruzio.com> References: <4A10CA92.9060201@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 23:03:07 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: "The Making of Kind Of Blue" Great Books That Have Changed Ou Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <25ENMB.A.Md.nCOEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 04:14:31 +0000 (UTC) You talked me into it Rick. FYI you can get them for $7 or 8 from Amazon At 7:40 PM -0700 5/17/09, Rick Walker wrote: >I have to say that reading Ashley Kahn's book >"The Making of Kind Of Blue" really had a huge impact on me. > >Some of it was just discovering that Ravel, Bill Evans and finally Miles had >been hearing the exact same thing that I've been hearing in my head for >many years (and that is a lot of suspended chords that don't >necessarily resolve) >gave me a feeling of validation. > >Because I was involved early on with Balinese, African, Caribbean, >Middleastern >and Indian musics (filtered through my love of a lot of progressive >pop musics, from >prog rock to fusion to art rock to arty new wave) , my entrance >into the world of melody >was colored by a great love of scalar or modal playing. > >though I learned modern Jazz theory (or some of it, at least) in >College, I mostly learned how >to spell chords and understand how harmony functioned but never went >through the regimin >of either classical chordal theory or jazz chordal theory. > >Essentially, it was becoming a live looper that forced me into >playing more and more melodic instruments >and I had a very simple and naive approach of using the African >paradigm of lining up a whole lot >of synchronized and arranged ostinato lines, >melodically.................I started with Bass so everything >was linear. > >But from an early age, the harmonies of Ravel, Ralph Vaugh >Williams, Aaron Copland, Debussy, Satie >as well as the modalism of the whole early ECM jazz scene really >appealed to me. > >At the same time I read Ashley Kahn's book (which to this day in my >life was the best music reading experience I've ever had, >as I bought the new remastered version of Kind of Blue and guiltily >listened and slowly read about it's making) I also >saw a wonderful documentary on the live of Joni Mitchell, (I've >always loved her music). > >In it, she said that Wayne Shorter (tracking on her historic >recording of Mingus with the dying Charles Mingus) told her that >she should really consider resolving her famous altered tuning >suspended chords with a major chord so that some resolution >should occur. He was being critical of her tendency to use a >suspended chord followed by a suspended chord. > >She said that when she wrote those songs that her life was far from >resolved emotionally and that she wanted to >reflect her life and feelings in her music. > >When she said that I sighed a sigh of relief and thought, "exactly"!!!! > >For some reasons a lot of normal chord progressions just don't do >anything for me emotionally. >I don't think I've ever written a tune using Ionian as an >example.....................give me that raised four >or that flatted seventh at least, for some emotional complexity. > >So, yeah, that was long extended way of saying, "The Making >of Kind Of Blue" by Ashley Kahn really influenced me >or perhaps validated me. > >He has written another one on the making of "A Love Supreme" by >Coltrane, but much as I like that piece of music, it is not as >compelling >to me , theoretically, as Miles's excursion in Kind of Blue. -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld "Don't make book, if you cannot cover bets." -- Tom Lehrer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 04:22:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B8ED3BE77; Mon, 18 May 2009 04:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qkz4iC/6F8pfXxywTHuJbO74JqEhGtRETc8LnZmcTrM=; b=o84n1cqpu0XTwovnSX/d9J/nn2p4VBNI2knR8NFEFbnD6oRzs6lVWlX3AJfK1T6Md2 h7oCpoyjHBpuz/zqcb6qrcPyRbDDjCbIcm6s2NqxSK0H9R7869SOxD8R25E/C5oYywG4 9uBcDw4QBu9WgNw4VA4PIiFde60lG+IudVV58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KL2cp6MKnBjZARH0y5JXopSv1lxCMxNBxfJN99vASnqImtc9639ymxUfGDsqdgl5WM wpubbqgvCorCKVPyB1zIdy73skinfojlUYwE/zUfidXFVmJ3cqRIK/uAIaqfxNASDRbu 6+An0x3r0X9jeST9IIiMjO+Qr+yRBqh/u8YR4= Message-ID: <4A10E27E.6070409@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 06:22:22 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [OT] Trivia: What is this composition called? References: <7334ca1b0905090503qf49d90es8c920f4b51fc1ea1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905090535h33074fb9pdd8e922787f40e8e@mail.gmail.com> <8E8A2F33-E944-4417-A9C2-ACE1692F599B@gmail.com> <4A0C29C3.4020305@googlemail.com> <4A0C3687.6090209@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A0C3687.6090209@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 04:22:26 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > Check out the score's to "Aus den sieben Tagen" > > http://silakka.fi/kuva/materials/From%20the%20seven%20days.pdf He made amazing pieces with the most unusual freedom you can think of, but he always wanted the musicians to control the result as a means of their decisions. Cage was interested in the uncertainty itself. He wanted to point to results independent of the musicians. Both had strong spiritual ideas not so far from each other, but with a very different and distinct focus... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 05:12:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ABB43BE77; Mon, 18 May 2009 05:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_431c090f-db4d-47d8-aa6c-c903f655ae09_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.119.233] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: Looping shoes Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 00:12:21 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <4A108C4D.109@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2009 05:12:21.0629 (UTC) FILETIME=[3920A2D0:01C9D777] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 05:12:22 +0000 (UTC) --_431c090f-db4d-47d8-aa6c-c903f655ae09_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wellp...... as for footwear - i use steel toe motorcycle boots- fingers are for feeling- footsies are for stomping- =A1FRO! 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Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DE463BE80; Mon, 18 May 2009 09:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bxUZRN+MjUkjb+3OgeMMDx0ONGQp7fLZ/Vyq3q/o12c=; b=tZK0lba2pX76wCruiL5CK81NCoqGdhGNdvTCTUU/tDnzQ0KM2RegvbsE5LW2LxmwWG BOrmto2dYCYtmpn2An8BeDzbImXSvYsIhqDw+iHwoD/p9vNNygOcjTkoEV3OZse5FGVU j/MPLD36Z9CTwQcapILDotKxaF2DU9qLqf3Sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fJF+cDmmgTEr8Wrt4A/XYxjySSbIoSSG0xKzuH033pbDhobme/QrOSXyO8CniascrN 2WjZa/XeArWPoBWlgkqzhMNYMePl52pQlGbgs+LVLESsJ4YzDehs8PNkowQjO9bUN+H5 IMx1FJL2pe6hKw/i2zXSU/SQwICjK0Rc2Vm34= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A10CE18.5040607@cruzio.com> References: <4A10CE18.5040607@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:45:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905180245h6f25f789qa38036d7b656754f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stacking Static Parts and 100% Feedback in live looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:45:53 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I see a lot of wonderful artists use variable feedback to create all kind= s > of interesting morphings in their live looping work > (my brother, =C2=A0Matthias Grob, =C2=A0Andy Butler, Per Boysen, et. al.) Just a minor correction, if I may: Feedback is a function I almost never us= e! I sometimes create several parallel loops and fade them in and out, which may sound a bit like if using feedback on shorter loops. But since my loops are very long I prefer plain old-school faders rather than feedback in the looper. As for the rest of the post I agree with Rick to timbre as being one major inspiration. In my case though, not so much by switching instruments to play - as Rick does so well - but rather by applying *reverse engineered mixing* technique to live looping. That means I tweak the sound design aspects before actually making the sound. That way I can play the same instrument and instantly have it sound in many ways that are pre-designed to work well as layers in an orchestration. I do use "Secondary Feedback" though, but this is something only Mobius offers so far (and in some way an EDP if putting a blind plug in the rear jack and running it in "Replace Mode"). This sort of feedback is only active during certain (user defined) modes. For example, I have it set up to be active only during Substitute Mode. So whenever I slice up a loop with Substitute I have a hand fader on the side to decide how much of the old audio I want to replace - going all the way from 100% (equaling Substitute on an EDP) to 0% (equaling Overdub). I often use Substitute with Secondary Feedback similar to how you mix fat disco or funk music; creating a fitting volume pocket in time just about as deep as to fit in a slice of new sound without blocking the older music and also not raising the summed output into the red zone. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 10:05:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D92733BE82; Mon, 18 May 2009 10:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jS2iqN88IyZSg/WBWlEQMx3trXpc15e10OD9LxhzuJI=; b=r7rocF8HdpWO0Z30TQ/rFP4yBianFBPlYNlFMJ3R5/2GDlZIaVXpN9egYnjoIPypYK lis6GT1qBp2oqDEljB8hMb/ISneZ0ULIyX7gyqJwk6aUKAMsLM6iN+Q80yUFgXkiNrWc xIvKcN8hP1hbFSniqDdtmCDOCQbbsyCCm1J74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=j/HXLfJF2Q6mghRZrV5193SnNI2MPZgYVK5/5h+gGBocaZSfl+PF3DxmOWmWPDnqnt Jj9JkMp6i8gY6fUbox54lDMO+H/QDmWXoTCxXoYeBfVO5eTjjcEjrXDZBtktqOxoPlgb x5m5xk7ejhKFmDYALjSaB0sdV0NtG+w+yQ6mE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <000201c9d5a0$a5357f00$040313ac@PIPO> References: <66f9cc1e0905151338p8bc813es3e5453f4dc6e8d85@mail.gmail.com> <000201c9d5a0$a5357f00$040313ac@PIPO> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 06:05:28 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1259575072047add Message-ID: <101191640905180305p19b3bcfbr651213a100c70411@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64f4a68093a55046a2cef03 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:05:28 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64f4a68093a55046a2cef03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use Jack to route audio from mainstage to sooperlooper and all around (pictured at http://www.warrensirota.com/Looper/TwistedSystem.gif - but now max is used to record everything instead of jack. I have mainstage, which can talk to 2 drivers at once, getting raw guitar audio directly from the motu and sending it to jack. jack routes it to both sooperlooper and the motu output. jack routes the sooperlooper output directly to the motu. jack routes the mainstage 3-4 outputs directly to motu 1-2 instead of the looper, because i send the drums to 3-4 and they're being driven by a midi loop, don't want to send them to SL. I don't know if latency varies with cpu load. my cpu load when i'm looping with this setup is usually, ummm, right at the edge anyway. I'm working with a buffer size of 64 samples throughout (I'm not sure to what extent exact matching of buffer size matters, but it can't hurt), and finer ears than mine may discern latency problems, but it's not an issue for me. At all. My experience with Jack is that it is far, far more efficient than SoundFlower if you have more than 2 channels to route, and also far more flexible (and the UI is almost comprehensible, a considerable improvement over SF). With SF, you can ruote 2 channels or everything. Jack is much more finely-grained (my SF experiences are 2-3 years old, so may not be applicable to the current version). just my experience, ymmv. Warren On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Sjaak wrote: > > But why not use Bidule AU with Mainstage 1.0.2 today? > > If it doesn't work like you want to, you have to use it like it works. So > that's what I'm doing right now ;) > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016e64f4a68093a55046a2cef03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use Jack to route audio from mainstage to sooperlooper and all around (pi= ctured at http://www.warrensirota.com/Looper/TwistedSystem.gif = - but now max is used to record everything instead of jack.

I have mainstage, which can talk to 2 drivers at once, getting raw guit= ar audio directly from the motu and sending it to jack. jack routes it to b= oth sooperlooper and the motu output. jack routes the sooperlooper output d= irectly to the motu. jack routes the mainstage 3-4 outputs directly to motu= 1-2 instead of the looper, because i send the drums to 3-4 and they're= being driven by a midi loop, don't want to send them to SL.

I don't know if latency varies with cpu load. my cpu load when i= 9;m looping with this setup is usually, ummm, right at the edge anyway. I&#= 39;m working with a buffer size of 64 samples throughout (I'm not sure = to what extent exact matching of buffer size matters, but it can't hurt= ), and finer ears than mine may discern latency problems, but it's not = an issue for me. At all.

My experience with Jack is that it is far, far more efficient than Soun= dFlower if you have more than 2 channels to route, and also far more flexib= le (and the UI is almost comprehensible, a considerable improvement over SF= ). With SF, you can ruote 2 channels or everything. Jack is much more finel= y-grained (my SF experiences are 2-3 years old, so may not be applicable to= the current version).

just my experience, ymmv.
Warren

O= n Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
> But why not use Bidule AU with Mainstage 1.0.2 today= ?

If it doesn't work like you want to, you have to use it like it w= orks. So
that's what I'm doing right now ;)



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--0016e64f4a68093a55046a2cef03-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 10:06:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D434B3BE85; Mon, 18 May 2009 10:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oqeo9GIyPgvOS8T4VTDsjwFY4NIOJXt0xJTKGMtgxmQ=; b=am7ie8TLiGatbPYb/OLCbudKM0d2noSKKTGpuAncx9lIyzffwaPqIjhPT57zDXVZc5 XAo4/xFn1W6IOAtb4v0HyhflhG1RfP7eckR4kS4qqO+POq9mGACaoBMpIj5UtX1M77M0 3MBXe2MMhGgWdKGbMIFJ7ekUPomh+PTGediAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VW3V1ecZCWKf8hcUnjwLzkhLxSWx17FZS34JU51/gtTtJ9tDDLo7unodhHwEM/oNu8 uVQ0DMXiqhGVFB+6f8S7SnBM7MNeedgpZKH5zwhnCAqVp0JiQttqQ5AFl2SKnGkJhv1A U52RxHS35d24jQRwRmK9fT4vzg4lAHKkyzD+A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640903220927h282554b7p5ec4e826a8cefd3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903220927h282554b7p5ec4e826a8cefd3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 06:06:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4cf5321913c86c3b Message-ID: <101191640905180306t3fa7eabcg899978f197227472@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Twisted System From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f1d7e41f76046a2cf1d7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:06:16 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f1d7e41f76046a2cf1d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry, in that previous posti meant to say "now MAX is used to record everything instead of bidule" -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163630f1d7e41f76046a2cf1d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry, in that previous posti meant to say "now MAX is used to record = everything instead of bidule"




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--00163630f1d7e41f76046a2cf1d7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 10:48:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C06C3BE86; Mon, 18 May 2009 10:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 200918788/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.227.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.227.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYCAMnZEEpPTuPf/2dsb2JhbAAIzxWEAQWIOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,209,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="200918788" Message-ID: <4A113FC0.80504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:00:16 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Stacking Static Parts and 100% Feedback in live looping References: <4A10CE18.5040607@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0905180245h6f25f789qa38036d7b656754f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905180245h6f25f789qa38036d7b656754f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > I do use "Secondary Feedback" though, but this is something only > Mobius offers so far (and in some way an EDP if putting a blind plug > in the rear jack and running it in "Replace Mode"). The "blind plug" hack allows EDP users to access EDP Interface Modes which are normally only accessible when using an expression pedal for Feedback control. I guess I'm meant to be "the expert" on that stuff, but it's years since I used an analog pedal with the EDP. Need to remember "Secondary Feedback" for the EDP emulator. (as there's no analog ped on a VST plugin the Interface Modes aren't included) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 10:56:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6E543BE82; Mon, 18 May 2009 10:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MRh0uEb/L8ARkjaqravv17LHP7fO6gyhl3RggvtJ0sg=; b=HK+Qd+sJ07kRHckWLU0m6ZIi3vcM0VGmm3lgYdFF/giCtccOI1j7JK7CiAHZsWIzyM OsLW0lGzvP7vQVMdT7IkBYzyobUvA4hEfL6vLvd8DcBbv8ALb9B/B8UXTxDpNO4H76V9 NffSwe9P0sYosBvwK+lWUKF9sJ5JpnokBtfdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=L24y1tgsRlyu2ZdKYGMHt4vCOUC/l9NBKU8GvjW/XoEk7+EuOw+/HpKVrkQ7M/hPd/ MiNoS3Tk3vatDVWFu2df8z1AyzbcB8Ab9y1UMl4BcSF+3oAF1oRzGP/FFsYVYMIXRpMq e9B4TyLm4M6vUgTQyIzwGhKwsG7/Nry+YX/ic= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:56:07 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905180356h25606162x8273ae59ad2169ae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Bidule CPU multi-core support on Mac seems fine now From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Earlier I have posted on this list that it seemed Bidule's multi core support is not very good on Mac, compared to Windows XP that was using before. But with the latest version 0,9686 Plogue has addressed this OS X issue. So I just want to put the record straight. I'm checking out the 0,9686 host now on a Macbook and it runs smooth peaking at "32 % - 32 %" when using lots of alternative effect chains (like 20 different "pedal-boards" to play through) pre looper (Mobius VST). Post looper I have each one of the eight looper channels passing through an EQ (taking out sub frequencies that is born when pitching down loops 4 octaves), some dynamic effect (like auto-pan, phaser or granular synthesis plug-in RiverRun) and finally a compressor. This means that when the eight looper channels are to be summed at the output stage there is not much foul audio in the digital streams. The looping rig can be set up just as any good studio mix and this Bidule version is what makes that possible for me. I'm all excited with this efficient multi-core CPU handling! It is a little tricky though, to try out which plug-ins that can be assigned to Multi Procerror Mode and and which can not. Not even the developers know, so you have to research that by trial and error. For example, my Sonalksis EQ works well under MP but not Sonalksis Compressor. After some fiddling around I found a good spread of MP vs Non MP assignments for plug-ins to reach the 32%-32% sweet-spot where audio output is crystal clear and no crashing even on a bad day. Plug-ins used in total: 60 SoundToys Native Bundle (20 alternative sound patches where only the active patch is taxing the CPU), 9 Sonalksis SV-517, 9 Sonalksis SV-315, 6 Pluggo Audio Rate Pan, 1 Pluggo Granular To Go, 1 AudioEase RiverRun, 1 Mobius VST looper Just mic inputs so far and no virtual instruments and guitar distortion patches yet, but I will expand this rig into that direction as I get there. Experience tells that won't increase the CPU load, since it is all happening at the input and pre looper sound patch area - where modules not in use are muted and offloaded the CPU. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 11:16:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC7D63BE8E; Mon, 18 May 2009 11:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jkKNTJIpxA3fI59KqVL8lkJUpHiPDmXMne91M9bi1Po=; b=leeIRgDqn/geHJcuvFMblOZm5DrZU2SFru7jDNRZwnbmMSLzGoM5+/L9LVC2lf6uWq 6FePVXtR3zhUw/R47dxYEdQITx+H3rkxvgCemra8HdJE+P4+hfxeMD8tB7c79VzX7rtF ezv1mT8kT8qeHvQyFq0KgE8gcUlWs/VqeD9oY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=P4KnhOYSkkr3+rEM5EkgjkJ3MTCKTJiQ+qzUSMzpe/514QBJWRw4qdxYa+QaQ1Zt80 OHuN8J5naiWn1SF/MaBoCscTT3HgzyDYSa5VK8uYiex4ZGf50qIgN4uXkUgC8BsFp2nc G5TmyLlfAByiymB7U8Uamm8dmcspghsZqTgwc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640905180413n46dd45d9n617bbc2ecf577498@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> <4A104772.30204@tiscali.co.uk> <101191640905180413n46dd45d9n617bbc2ecf577498@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:16:31 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2f1a1794d312319e Message-ID: <101191640905180416t3940300foc318bd227a9be139@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630e99f1f035d046a2ded14 Resent-Message-ID: <3DL9J.A.sUD.POUEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:16:31 +0000 (UTC) --00163630e99f1f035d046a2ded14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (I guess "proximate cause" would be the more accurate way of phrasing it) On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > It's not a book, but the film of Equus caused me to drop out of grad > school, move to SF and try (at least for a while, but unsuccessfully) to be > a full-time musician. > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163630e99f1f035d046a2ded14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (I guess "proximate cause" would be the more accurate way of phra= sing it)

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:13 AM,= Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
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--00163630e99f1f035d046a2ded14-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 11:20:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33F343BE93; Mon, 18 May 2009 11:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=w41aJXii/QtHcz9ujGK2wp0HuXH92zgXQ1LiES/Xwxo=; b=p2MIONCWPIQRVUbjKS6fOtfPjMSpIzrJ/JjioUOzGr9k/kP/DHh4+tegnCWImdszcB 7laUDIbWMto4/gSOaBhYO3WL7e/vTQLgDlNN+4FVL9QU2wbTt+JFb2z4P3a//T/IKzyW wJzTJNwXZ5cgt87IHYCijCtjRZ1xcygY9ncyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qCMYzmhAcbw7wwz3hRsRpMC25/qOr4Wa4veUOSTdjlzlzqiiE7J+jmh3suycMzGvWS lFLzmrG8aNBrgZTGtTw1YmaibFN0ZHVAum5TwBq5gTR2WajSHdl1ul19nPpugMTpsNkN xqlj6n1tDeVgvS5FU7kLC9uMDv9QawWETcOYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A104772.30204@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> <4A104772.30204@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:13:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 95bde90c21842681 Message-ID: <101191640905180413n46dd45d9n617bbc2ecf577498@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163616498f232dc2046a2de168 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:20:06 +0000 (UTC) --00163616498f232dc2046a2de168 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's not a book, but the film of Equus caused me to drop out of grad school, move to SF and try (at least for a while, but unsuccessfully) to be a full-time musician. -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163616498f232dc2046a2de168 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's not a book, but the film of Equus caused me to drop out of grad sc= hool, move to SF and try (at least for a while, but unsuccessfully) to be a= full-time musician.

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--00163616498f232dc2046a2de168-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 13:32:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 845673BE7E; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qhlwjc8bx+UKqHAxH4StT1LssD3XLa5iDDN0u1RgUIs=; b=pA3mZD5PGdsuCEPentQAMuuzGOLhc8lJXB7roUKE69ygCQQplX3V0JAcSWZo75gcfm aKxuo4qG1fMhdQrGnxhm3ftRfFuIhK1hs/JZml35GP7N7y+c+DqmWdw08Z34+jdejGId MJToCN2rpFNmKNL03PaKSIKost4EmMZ6wzC0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xqg8XDO1KW1TfgA73yQ878c18yl0jIAVPpgPtGiJLWxlFt5JkWWxAe5OkoC/OeYHmL B7Ai+fuyh0EyJ46Ja0hRotN3YkwE/F6LVOKM0gR8hPbqS/Yao1yZ8MxA6de7q5RNMOvJ x/nYQWCDbE7wg79AL/9fxjAPL3HjNqRPz8b2s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905180356h25606162x8273ae59ad2169ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905180356h25606162x8273ae59ad2169ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:32:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bidule CPU multi-core support on Mac seems fine now From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:32:27 +0000 (UTC) ... so leaving mainstage? ... what's MP? 2009/5/18, Per Boysen : > Hi, > > Earlier I have posted on this list that it seemed Bidule's multi core > support is not very good on Mac, compared to Windows XP that was using > before. But with the latest version 0,9686 Plogue has addressed this > OS X issue. So I just want to put the record straight. > > I'm checking out the 0,9686 host now on a Macbook and it runs smooth > peaking at "32 % - 32 %" when using lots of alternative effect chains > (like 20 different "pedal-boards" to play through) pre looper (Mobius > VST). Post looper I have each one of the eight looper channels passing > through an EQ (taking out sub frequencies that is born when pitching > down loops 4 octaves), some dynamic effect (like auto-pan, phaser or > granular synthesis plug-in RiverRun) and finally a compressor. This > means that when the eight looper channels are to be summed at the > output stage there is not much foul audio in the digital streams. > > The looping rig can be set up just as any good studio mix and this > Bidule version is what makes that possible for me. I'm all excited > with this efficient multi-core CPU handling! > > It is a little tricky though, to try out which plug-ins that can be > assigned to Multi Procerror Mode and and which can not. Not even the > developers know, so you have to research that by trial and error. For > example, my Sonalksis EQ works well under MP but not Sonalksis > Compressor. After some fiddling around I found a good spread of MP vs > Non MP assignments for plug-ins to reach the 32%-32% sweet-spot where > audio output is crystal clear and no crashing even on a bad day. > > Plug-ins used in total: > 60 SoundToys Native Bundle (20 alternative sound patches where only > the active patch is taxing the CPU), > 9 Sonalksis SV-517, > 9 Sonalksis SV-315, > 6 Pluggo Audio Rate Pan, > 1 Pluggo Granular To Go, > 1 AudioEase RiverRun, > 1 Mobius VST looper > > Just mic inputs so far and no virtual instruments and guitar > distortion patches yet, but I will expand this rig into that direction > as I get there. Experience tells that won't increase the CPU load, > since it is all happening at the input and pre looper sound patch area > - where modules not in use are muted and offloaded the CPU. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 13:46:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 458763BE7F; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A116469.90609@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:36:41 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for May 16, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:46:50 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090516.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #152 May 16, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Paul Nagle] Poseidon's Realm Sequences No. 6 VA [Pleasure & Pain] untitled Sequences No. 6 VA [Peter Gallin / Alan's Agony / Sequences No. 6 Traumklein] Variations I & II John DuVal Amber Waves of Atoms Cassiopeia's Playground (Earth Mantra) Lemonchill Memorabilia Sentant (Ricochet Dream) Francois Couture Tango Tape Speed (Disques Boghei) CitizenGreen Plasmodesmata Plant Cell (High Grade Media) CitizenGreen Mitochondrion Plant Cell (High Grade Media) Holosphere Way Out Parallel Universe (none) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Louis Landon Rejoice Solo Piano for Peace (none) Acoustic Ocean Refuge from the Light Returning (none) Storm Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Long Distance Apparitions Avoid the Light (Superball) Calling Oceansize Commorative T-shirt Frames (Superball) Oceansize Unfamiliar Frames (Superball) Magnum Intro Into the Valley of the Moonking (Steamhammer) Magnum Cry To Yourself Into the Valley of the Moonking (Steamhammer) VA [Pinnacle] Paikalliset Tuulet Tuonen Tytar II (Musea) VA [Onsegen Escape from the Tuonen Tytar II (Musea) Ensemble] Storm * * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4:00/ ITZ-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. 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To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 13:47:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AA6E3BE7F; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_47167cc2-0ae9-42b7-a505-2be96d1c0524_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Looping shoes Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:47:06 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2009 13:47:07.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[224C7050:01C9D7BF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:47:07 +0000 (UTC) --_47167cc2-0ae9-42b7-a505-2be96d1c0524_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Teddy LOVE you're playing and music.... =20 > From: teddybut@mac.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Looping shoes > Date: Sun=2C 17 May 2009 16:06:57 -0400 >=20 > Camper piu >=20 > Teddy Kumpel > http://teddyjam.com >=20 --_47167cc2-0ae9-42b7-a505-2be96d1c0524_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Teddy LOVE you're playing and music....
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= --_47167cc2-0ae9-42b7-a505-2be96d1c0524_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 14:22:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A89F3BE77; Mon, 18 May 2009 14:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RVyKuWSWCRjIYGZmOYPtafOc6Vab4wng/cn2qbD9a6E=; b=sgZOhqhyjKuR8DDg1o1kHxsCNdJMytGR8WuWVCO8Wa9z5PYnLDd7O5ic1JxO5i0LT3 0nenDf3cCb+G45uAYR5IDEkCKHAuXW2poufmxdWg8JNclKARb4IeG7S31/PU1BHufG1u V6iHLlwlvZu/ScZCf3bCj32b9VZnOm7YeQlto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dNQURVrr/HQdXsSKtTDsg3PtrRgAdeTbcbBPV9UtlZ6fbCEVnC+MyfDi3KSUOPX2by Gs79VCX8V6RoY0T21Sq9abba/HoaptgIXJ9ii8AJcXL9uP0mcgvKyyo0nQ7iKRBq4n1a 24K/kPL9I5WBzzQYxgR4Kg4QYQUmHA4RuN44E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905180356h25606162x8273ae59ad2169ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:22:27 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905180722j74db91d0r4efd02b7d8d2ecb0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bidule CPU multi-core support on Mac seems fine now From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:22:27 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... so leaving mainstage? Noop. Just need a bit of fresh air for a change. ... what's MP? Multi Processor. Can also mean "Mashed Potato" if lacking efficient CPU resources ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 14:41:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 495693BE7F; Mon, 18 May 2009 14:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1242657716; l=427; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=+6wQ3M90eS97biBxIyWh8ewhkDU=; b=h3xzvUmVlyFblI1Dc9YK/PHJcNdxyYFYddrtDrghbmhmFHalPxqV/yiafa86W/vOH0L nP2wc3iMfBRdOw4XCD7XhSS8h/eBmLCe/Y2booMoK9qKsyDZV0j6N8EqNfzPFOVwuhDft 4pNLKdx67ArCSEu9L3nuIgCCKW4Vce+su+I= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWLBOrxXsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <018601c9d7c7$34220bc0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <4A10BDBD.50606@soundscapes.us> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:42:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:41:57 +0000 (UTC) That´s very strange indeed. He tied together his 2 guitars with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Fox" To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM Subject: Weird Looping Guy > http://youtube.com/watch?v=D0u5eeXANfU > Weird yet compelling. > > Cheers, > > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 15:29:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98B293BE7E; Mon, 18 May 2009 15:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 10286 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 18 May 2009 15:29:58 UTC Message-id: <4A1156BD.8070709@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:38:21 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #632 for May 14, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:29:58 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090514.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #632 May 14, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight was Blind Watchers of a Vanishing Night on EH Records. Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#may PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Holosphere Regained Parallel Universe (none) Transmission John DuVal Midnight From Rigel Cassiopeia's Playground (Earth Mantra) Richard Lainhart Timeless The Beautiful Sky (O-Town) CitizenGreen Tonoplast Plant Cell (HGM) CitizenGreen Peroxisome Plant Cell (HGM) Gert Emmens and Blind Watchers of a Blind Watchers of a Vanishing Ruud Heij Vanishing Night Night (EH) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Gert Emmens and A Journey Through Blind Watchers of a Vanishing Ruud Heij Time Night (EH) Gert Emmens and Moments of Blind Watchers of a Vanishing Ruud Heij Unexpected Sadness Night (EH) Gert Emmens and Conspiracy of Two Blind Watchers of a Vanishing Ruud Heij Forces Night (EH) Gert Emmens and Driving Home On a Blind Watchers of a Vanishing Ruud Heij Rainy Night Night (EH) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Journey on EH Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 15:39:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C697E3BE89; Mon, 18 May 2009 15:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 451 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 18 May 2009 15:39:36 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fvQfyx+/1F/o5bbB4itInoNrUukwb4NhzQHRu0D4QFk=; b=fFUImSFESiN4b3GEIL0jYaBwI1pUmUSn9ey1Fhd7f/smfVniGAjlmZJtgp8ugH8niK cLFyjuLGh0QTWOQMVVfbKFLKDGfvJLBA1jNs83VyqFiF+CjZFlcHs50oXRrLx9cd+cfQ MiECJHxTQaSY64MhAir84CTxMR4lCS2SHLZU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=PhOi+jMATHYC7B9q28K8UmsOgq3t93yygWgstY/hQBQuDCaRuJKNslUABE8mPAHnYZ D6PAWGqSZFr+/opg6XUvD/j6RnJPd8cN16L3kgtpKMt9haf8TiHJrhvZDdiSBhBs+Lu1 nEXh7tA2SDIfLd9bajHQlCRRu0J+g21VhHWr8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:32:03 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905180832p55d92bbfoa21747295d2b34a0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: odd findings in the depth of the matrix From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:39:36 +0000 (UTC) http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/de/Hamburg/default.mspx This may actually be the first mention of our stuff by Microsoft: "[Mark Hamburg] has been a regular performer on electric guitar at the annual Santa Cruz International Live Looping festival and has photographed the last several festivals." Good luck in that new job of yours, Mark! I'm sure Microsoft needs you more than Adobe did ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 15:57:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D8423BE7E; Mon, 18 May 2009 15:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k1T6brPfQJLqzBgtyKBx8/w0mvoAMb+DOgz+aM+Bv0c=; b=D3hLsgA3vnwJY5X55840NG/+Hrl9QGtXO1juzjlY5mlhCu8JCbpcHiEXqwxEgZYqq+ ipOs9zoeCVvY/f4fH/4G+DEgz/DBOkNnz5cDHpB0XtDM3BljIIQRKp8AA3nZKfctkFVL hOEnHP54dmD94U2LAQWnAxS1n9gG0WB4iXt50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iquehjNB/otGYnW3DD1vBTobuuQB3PcBE5KacVE73OiRr9yQ2EwZqqtk5+lzYJ2+cT y8fp0ZyWngZfFgFvxrlzX/Upa8Sb137CZSnHdv8HxWd/qysZkTxeQajW/7jDIPzeHUBO eMVeKiXcshGtP7IfLKeosao8LP5h1pNDpkjPE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905180722j74db91d0r4efd02b7d8d2ecb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905180356h25606162x8273ae59ad2169ae@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905180722j74db91d0r4efd02b7d8d2ecb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:57:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bidule CPU multi-core support on Mac seems fine now From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:57:02 +0000 (UTC) 2009/5/18, Per Boysen : > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> ... so leaving mainstage? > > Noop. Just need a bit of fresh air for a change. uff! this fresh air is killing me when gigs arise .. two paid ones!, has anybody ever seen this in a while :-) ..but again i have to let go the experimental side and turn on ableton's to work in strict timeline with other "regular" player since this is what he uses. i mean, he wants me to do everything for him to soloing over ... this is me sending live templates & sequences... boring approach ... hope this will change after the former meetings. > ... what's MP? > > Multi Processor. > Can also mean "Mashed Potato" if lacking efficient CPU resources ;-) oops! so obvious ... -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 16:57:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 654073BE79; Mon, 18 May 2009 16:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TLbIXu71TSXzxHUQZvBSx9Z3BWP2aXPaDpX4opa/7M0=; b=Dz0aMHi7QEDyFdfgF0wilkotDO9IvKi/wWDhzIgXT84ozljOECR7+At7CmKsaJuN7W Tjw6h02mtH9xSVvYvdpaqd+lXm53hQMj3i5WQ/OIHgx7RqH7DEdhLAmg0uqWTyoaN92I pJ3XJwlEuYuBdded6onTzr7jTdlMfHsCevL9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=AFYx+fhQ16yAQL/9BW61djmd5/NZEH2AuPKM/OJZZJB+ThHFanhXFHtTIsLIi3rpfV obYW55Eu5f1lsZ+dIZsYxuiBLuJRNn+Ny2T9orZFPJyWpvUJKOmsZQv2Bu6WgtD5kRFS Y1/oS3QQ/ykZSb5wvuwl4rcK9dozKer/SfRHE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:57:55 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905180957h2cf5fb73x3b9b8a85f29f407c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Backing Up a Cat (Re: Bidule CPU multi-core support on Mac seems fine now) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:57:56 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ..but again i have to let go the experimental side and turn on > ableton's to work in strict timeline with other "regular" player since > this is what he uses. i mean, he wants me to do everything for him to > soloing over ... this is me sending live templates & sequences... > boring approach ... =C2=A0hope this will change after the former meetings= . Hey - that sounds very exciting! I wish you the best luck and lots of fun at those two gigs! I've been dreaming about sometimes backing up a great soloist with livelooping. Just staying in the background to build open soundscapes that lets him/her stretch melody lines over several possible chord vamps. This means being careful with thirds so the soloist can decide if going for major or minor. Then follow him/her and maybe present a next step into a parallel key, depending on soloist's direction. Imagine John Coltrane backed up by a laptop loopist instead of the usual jazz trio! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 18:18:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99A133BE84; Mon, 18 May 2009 18:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2DAbOQcIyjLJAw9PLzCP2A0ZHMpombA76nIIrcP5A2o=; b=ck4uZmGNH8YHJ1PUO8rdvO2E1cqw0k2CyPcnROCgduMzp4PHxxntc9dtiQ1OK3Vy3t 7GcPanqa72fIW0HmaRFztW/gU8crGaKnvfrrzS86mlNmcfeCL46F9osjdb/2Pxovwsh8 JXFLNhw5+PwcF3bmfE6Bw900tCMYgdUOMoyRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EqFReBNlPXq1FJwmm7nEtDQcBfGNX94pVTWjtNbLxRpE580ucUijDrEJmIyoFDIm+6 QX283dpYK8mfXsITKbxg4+GRKQjB6T3JzbfRQlADm2HUfi6Ky1JdKEOirFrUfqaRV4PZ H6oTJCqne4LXe63Y0hEHNYh2N95hQ3vkTaukE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905180957h2cf5fb73x3b9b8a85f29f407c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905180957h2cf5fb73x3b9b8a85f29f407c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:18:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Backing Up a Cat (Re: Bidule CPU multi-core support on Mac seems fine now) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5ep3cB.A.TmB.iZaEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:18:10 +0000 (UTC) 2009/5/18, Per Boysen : > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Raul Bonell wrot= e: >> ..but again i have to let go the experimental side and turn on >> ableton's to work in strict timeline with other "regular" player since >> this is what he uses. i mean, he wants me to do everything for him to >> soloing over ... this is me sending live templates & sequences... >> boring approach ... hope this will change after the former meetings. > > Hey - that sounds very exciting! I wish you the best luck and lots of > fun at those two gigs! > > I've been dreaming about sometimes backing up a great soloist with > livelooping. Just staying in the background to build open soundscapes > that lets him/her stretch melody lines over several possible chord > vamps. This means being careful with thirds so the soloist can decide > if going for major or minor. Then follow him/her and maybe present a > next step into a parallel key, depending on soloist's direction. you're considering he knows how to improvise which is not the case. nor that i'm an expert neither! i'm talking about to create 4,5 or 6 pieces (1 hour music ... errr .... just one half of the concert), almost enterely from scratch ... the main problem it's the timbre and dynamics of the instrument ... it's a popular wind instrument from the lands we're living: dol=E7aina or xirimita. It's low developed technically, and the joke all players do is that just two dynamics level are possible with the dol=E7aina: on/off. also they use to play with other dol=E7ainistes or wind bands (i'm also playing in one of these bands).. think of a duduk/shenai powerful enough to blow your ears at 1 meter of distance. try.. i've not,listened it since i'm at work, ... http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=3D65611 > Imagine John Coltrane backed up by a laptop loopist instead of the > usual jazz trio! surreal... > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 19:17:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61DDC3BE7E; Mon, 18 May 2009 19:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zal6e65CTGMWWAntO71Y5jqcEiD0gUMkbJUtwhK3/mw=; b=M0d/xbDQ1wSjM0BDXJ1Qo+onU3v+plUQhwpN1vxejHOIJ5x1I9zcIC93uMU1Q3klTc wtcGC+6kfgCkzWnWqm1C/fqlGw6sa51OLOZcqCSBwFiiQC9IFVjPV/KprfToC/jR/+do lT1nJCJs5+D+uysWNOjW9y3m+C8w6QFl0/kaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w87UiE1flw5e1nHAyUB4iINNyf4Y0Cjzo4av967ay9i0fgBLM/ZeWGVqk7AGRog4W/ Tw/RseOGR1qzsIoWKY4MnpmJu2KS/gnMfiG6smznuoMwiwZhYZ5fyOVALJeTNVwBmZJP cjHkPDHGPfU0bMI7Ri06p3dyogMlZlez3TmDs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905180245h6f25f789qa38036d7b656754f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A10CE18.5040607@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0905180245h6f25f789qa38036d7b656754f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:17:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stacking Static Parts and 100% Feedback in live looping From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:17:07 +0000 (UTC) I'm a fan of having a number of static loops that can be toggled between, a static loop on top of them as well as a <100% loop going on the top of it all. This creates a lot of chances for interesting relationships between loops. Another trick (I internally call this the Oh Superman mode) is to take my on-top-static loop and run it though an audio effect and vary the amount and other parameters of the effect over the course of a peace, eventually landing with the original naked loop. It's nothing new or revolutionary, but I find it a good way to keep from boring myself when working with loops. I'm always happy to hear my first loop all by itself at the end. It's kind of like when Dorothy finds out she was always a shoe click away from being home. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 19:43:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1685C3BE89; Mon, 18 May 2009 19:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QCa5PMBq7WGpVQX2cCWsdcUEOmVVQs6zfp1hlNicuqI=; b=JcMs/wjInMJltb8V/vN3XY09Ug3JsHJP7ImycCFAykkzg3X0mBusKmHmMVEFsPmeaS +VrYYYJjnx/BlldI2+ASeAeupjszK4dSsfjmUsYy00IwKo/838NyhDDp7OyK7yiGtm6g lhXoE2iPAwNDaEb/PEmKqIzG5kNmMe5NKLN8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w+7/3kY0EQhH5n2hv+t/uG0LY5XxRQsAv60jRa4eny4ptiPcN+cN9ffsKuySRY+Tvu LqYYAp2QLvv7x/BkkRQV3Y5w8u0WVDMrwWjGXYTia6Vyo/Uf/sftx0g5HPNowSFGIP1n 61mks3HKvMBpFWXMtU0nZ1OkqYlZ3mHQAicGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <018601c9d7c7$34220bc0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <4A10BDBD.50606@soundscapes.us> <018601c9d7c7$34220bc0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:42:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Nice hat. I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is untied!" On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > That$BX7(B very strange indeed. He tied together his 2 guitars > with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Fox" > To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM > Subject: Weird Looping Guy > > >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=D0u5eeXANfU >> Weird yet compelling. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bill >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 19:54:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B69B93BE7E; Mon, 18 May 2009 19:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242676455; bh=ewL7R6+LAyuZLeva4J4pN7FC4bmt1I+miGLtAb/G1dc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GtMMmMbxlVr9aveoF2avlXSPC2jsy5rZtXErYyMVcsNdoLBd9XTjtcytuMYVmd5JdG01x326rOjm3rp9tRFegF7JcVk1Pt2w+zsLus1+Q4kCViCgW1thnsX2Em20vpXC2MjUYMXlBHx+nPRGfZPIH8R8nJuJivdTae39fZn9VnU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uBDS98QBjC1Td4sz4CzLOJ57t57bFT/SPHr2FmEg0bYRlRAOisAq6LmX78iHn7xAbbXSm/7iCbJt4+euHOjFzgueNpfSpzyYarmpQk8NQ8kCaD/zzU8xnkRYH+eRvM3e/Sv7RYKAoePMeu8MYwEhE5znSYgMEb6pKOG+qezp7DI=; Message-ID: <505031.2977.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GOQ3k5gVM1kBN965tnt_1jg7X332SOglo8Di1km6FUotZIOoEiuWBiiIuzGjKTYDSL7x8DnzQMI7kJCCtVWHqxEdVpyJrQQbevxJULQtVDIIkVa2ybBVSHJsPajn0B1cygsW5KptTPbMpeqxIkrtaIA8UO0teL6.TvbHLL9WRG12XAYTM4qs64T3xWMmEkwJ4M1ZjN8IhR8ET2zTI71EKcO5.IeuD4YgxRZs3yAaXpf1QxiyJY_9Jv.idNsE2XdcV4SsYkcLkOcSFMkNN9ZNmeyTFOvJppAlh.6vMKhK6RGyRRrBbnbOm6uVJrZbdbPw12s7sLvJhEnL_57Z687YhQk.hEBFw9uUIMHL_n65Yjiw X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:54:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2137832479-1242676455=:2977" Resent-Message-ID: <4shhTB.A.6DF.ozbEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:54:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-2137832479-1242676455=:2977 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He's satisfying the need of many performers: to perform -=C2=A0 whether the= stuff one is doing is worth a crap or not. The desire to perform outweighs= all. Talent is secondary. Just take a look at most contemporary pop, rock,= rap music (or looping for that matter). --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM Nice hat.=C2=A0 I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is untie= d!" On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > That=E6=84=80 very strange indeed. He tied together his 2 guitars > with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Fox" > To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM > Subject: Weird Looping Guy > > >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DD0u5eeXANfU >> Weird yet compelling. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bill >> > > =0A=0A=0A --0-2137832479-1242676455=:2977 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
He's satisfying the need of many performers: = to perform -  whether the stuff one is doing is worth a crap or not. T= he desire to perform outweighs all. Talent is secondary. Just take a look a= t most contemporary pop, rock, rap music (or looping for that matter).
<= BR>--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>= wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM

Nice hat.  I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey,= you're guitar is untied!"

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo = Jota <chris@christojota.de= > wrote:
> That=E6=84=80 very strange indeed. He tied together= his 2 guitars
> with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy!=
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Fox" <= billyfox@soundscapes.us= >
> To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" <Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM
>= ; Subject: Weird Looping Guy
>
>
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DD0u5eeXANfU=
>> Weird yet compelling.
>>
>> Cheers,
&= gt;>
>> Bill
>>
>
>


=0A=0A --0-2137832479-1242676455=:2977-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 20:32:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51DA03BE89; Mon, 18 May 2009 20:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=27WxFL+CM3r3ULGtksBd5eN163Hubx5UUJ5Lj2l+YYc=; b=ZGwrC/rK8pcoSErmJZQBLjEG21/isJ/RBmNqclgy3jzQzD2rf23yYQhSaV1DWPPvgm phRe1RDE9Q/wU3esiPgBpm/vkOTeSg8TB2DbcqzIYqd7csUgKMX26I9YbBeunJKlEg3w z1M50JDkLbOwiNvntn0reUCjxkG62eLVU1y6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O5w8E6fjvy10/ClLk0eGjavMoD9bFUzOjaWZnD28Lk8db9j7WCaAplIzGQ3no3S+o6 D738E2uklOKrPDMB3NPmTNgNuXpqp8027EYU94fboXExSpJ9zN+DvO3vgSVSdQTHnoQF nigxjPZbJuV1XqkpMnRGdS9XOi91oTLo3yCFE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <505031.2977.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <505031.2977.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Would anyone disagree that this guy is very talented? You my not like his medieval style, but there's no doubt he's talented. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > He's satisfying the need of many performers: to perform - whether the stuff > one is doing is worth a crap or not. The desire to perform outweighs all. > Talent is secondary. Just take a look at most contemporary pop, rock, rap > music (or looping for that matter). > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM > > Nice hat. I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is untied!" > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota wrote: >> That$BX7(B very strange indeed. He tied together his 2 guitars >> with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Fox" >> To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" >> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM >> Subject: Weird Looping Guy >> >> >>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=D0u5eeXANfU >>> Weird yet compelling. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bill >>> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 20:40:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19B163BE85; Mon, 18 May 2009 20:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZBbx7JSDjMqkOZW/00jDdL5yQfZUbuaptwZyvj5fsjk=; b=M8Uwg2TyirmwajoT3W9KSSfMnFBJ18GQNrzvq/8RCpARX7mXVmsu83qyfmZdkoJv67 ypNB1KYnUqRu0gsxtOMhDx0kAT/9+v6kAWIt4IbdKIWTezLK5sktj8S8P0zS/1XqIaUW 7B0gbbqYvcp0sMoto6Klr3BgTDlHa4rp2kqCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=v3VynOs8vmoLYM3U1EGLctuuak+RQzwTzJUG3BF7qhFms4hNpzuqCaFvKtTAXwMjeP sFH9eVNY9HdaMIh8eIR3u8r93He2pmqqsdoymU6hE3vJVeRH3p+oV0BJjriMZcJMY+vP a3QE8J5SWDrtRQFCaxGv5HjVIn9nKYYqDZTO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <505031.2977.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:40:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64346124f8fdf046a35cd4e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:40:17 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64346124f8fdf046a35cd4e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree, talented and clever. And I didn't find it that wierd, he's just doing this medieval rock thing. Kind of TenaciousD-ish. 2009/5/18 Mark Sottilaro > Would anyone disagree that this guy is very talented? You my not like > his medieval style, but there's no doubt he's talented. > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: > > He's satisfying the need of many performers: to perform - whether the > stuff > > one is doing is worth a crap or not. The desire to perform outweighs all. > > Talent is secondary. Just take a look at most contemporary pop, rock, rap > > music (or looping for that matter). > > > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > > > From: Mark Sottilaro > > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM > > > > Nice hat. I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is untied!" > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota > wrote: > >> That$BX7(B very strange indeed. 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Mon, 18 May 2009 20:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242679813; bh=QWQtYRBSh4zuOC0EKW9eE3nrnWnnHLINOVg81P6DVBE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=20+gX1NrrKLCM5va7keptNoyusgJKVl00N5OfE9R1tzebhjM0wiQ+QvxRDd8NbzBxJn5qthf1hsymSotKEWWhMG7j/sbqJjpgwXk8VUt74AS+l3LwqHQ/bAAqjOg1ZKEvwsgda3nrjVN17CYeXGwh3DK+Wr4xdYOTHOckdQ8z8A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Iaz4Y/Zjf9YfbZdneZvv/077Ew5aJ4yOMqb/R3uS4+UqdhdIsavLophbTLgoqyzwe1kxNToHEX705e5Q9EHf4SU80q0FEn2DbWJgHKKQkpOaq0k97egySV4s7LkEsSd3rekrIe0lyUh4IN2Q9EPRGK8JBRL0gXAa9IOE8JLUDE0=; Message-ID: <255203.95302.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 37dsiUsVM1m4IcSkxXnt_9i8.zFljrPbZpUfVdY.fJ38PBeMqE_nnD2tG2f.sQDg5npynoF5_zBulPibjIjfQ2gWre86R0BGFd.eH1B15fh0ZTHx8K.VlsBybMgS5oicjdxlr33NWX9SoGD_alMXgZh3RodCPG5CkilUp1WXROT8ZtDjgQcpFqPTVjUE0K7D1.2jMfhOcfy2kmAJrNYRxmQyJdiZI5zwxet5Rrnwe5pkLfUYQKyYeDwsW75dSKwcZ2pLyqek6jQuZWpOqezeHntFShpAwinLzUS0PP0PiEM2TuRaCA1j6yq80Wb3K_dnFU2GsfZpzp5tZjzsSWt7Q4XVsDc4tiOGZJUCU.ICBixe X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:50:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1545966821-1242679813=:95302" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:50:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-1545966821-1242679813=:95302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, to me, it was so horrible I stopped the vid. I guess engraving the Bo= ok of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a certain talent, but...... --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:32 PM Would anyone disagree that this guy is very talented?=C2=A0 You my not like his medieval style, but there's no doubt he's talented. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > He's satisfying the need of many performers: to perform -=C2=A0 whether t= he stuff > one is doing is worth a crap or not. The desire to perform outweighs all. > Talent is secondary. Just take a look at most contemporary pop, rock, rap > music (or looping for that matter). > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM > > Nice hat.=C2=A0 I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is unt= ied!" > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota wrot= e: >> That=E6=84=80 very strange indeed. He tied together his 2 guitars >> with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Fox" >> To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" >> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM >> Subject: Weird Looping Guy >> >> >>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DD0u5eeXANfU >>> Weird yet compelling. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bill >>> >> >> > > > =0A=0A=0A --0-1545966821-1242679813=:95302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, to me, it was so horrible I stopped the= vid. I guess engraving the Book of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a c= ertain talent, but......

--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro &= lt;zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:32 PM

Would anyone disagree that this guy is very talented= ?  You my not like
his medieval style, but there's no doubt he's ta= lented.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Paul Richards
<paulrichard_rocks@ya= hoo.com> wrote:
> He's satisfying the need of many performers:= to perform -  whether the stuff
> one is doing is worth a crap = or not. The desire to perform outweighs all.
> Talent is secondary. J= ust take a look at most contemporary pop, rock, rap
> music (or loopi= ng for that matter).
>
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro &l= t;zerocrossing@gmail.com<= /A>> wrote:
>
> From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&= gt;
> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
> To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM
>> Nice hat.  I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is= untied!"
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota <= ;chris@christojota.de>= wrote:
>> That=E6=84=80 very strange indeed. He tied together his= 2 guitars
>> with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy!=
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bi= ll Fox" <billyfox@soundscapes.us>
>> To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" <Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM<= BR>>> Subject: Weird Looping Guy
>>
>>
>>&= gt; ht= tp://youtube.com/watch?v=3DD0u5eeXANfU
>>> Weird yet compel= ling.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>&g= t; Bill
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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=0A=0A --0-1545966821-1242679813=:95302-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 20:55:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89D753BE79; Mon, 18 May 2009 20:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000a01c9d7fa$f72ce440$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: millennia preamp - OT Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:55:24 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9D814.1C4C5580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <4tf7c.A.KZH.NtcEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:55:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9D814.1C4C5580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, so sorry that this is off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1 = micpreamp ( with high impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the = greatest, most transparent preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my = new cello guitar came to life. it was as though i became a cellist :)=20 if you get chance, please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it = seems that it will work great with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc. thanks and best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9D814.1C4C5580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey,
 
so sorry that this is off topic. but today i tried the millennia = stt-1=20 micpreamp ( with high impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the = greatest,=20 most transparent preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my new cello = guitar=20 came to life. it was as though i became a cellist :)
 
if you get chance, please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it = seems=20 that it will work great with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc.
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
 
"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus
 
"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9D814.1C4C5580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 20:56:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27F643BE85; Mon, 18 May 2009 20:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hnYYtYpVSJbCvRdjD8jTAArWcw5LlBbwaDv9qbJnA0w=; b=tceXQ5KeRBCHvQdA+zpUZwvfViLemO/TWRb24/Q34GOJ0Rv0LJzAGCfqLZrTkeWWk1 eWAaLVLTuE2BpRMZivvSJ7MrfpSJz5ATa7DvR3aHL9PYQPEcy4HIwGU1PCjnEesyWUrn W9yyToI2lTbfJVTtMq3We9AsR5oJu+6RFHabM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CDhZrhDx6kRfbhjagxaTAexq1c7e9IzO5klllSw55a1gl0//q6kjUOfe0ngeUdhPjM 0AGsih6KYbMajQnDVXd85LMENsz2w/a8OSUMqr6MaOKlx/DYOS1wDzemgx0v5XS5W8YK MLiv0QgBR7w3ik8ral8HNyw2yYvkyeyD8v2hc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <255203.95302.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <255203.95302.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:56:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9EUWY.A.ieH.GucEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:56:39 +0000 (UTC) :shrug: It's one thing to say, "I don't like this" and yet another to say "it was horrible." It's subtle, but one is talking about you and one is talking about them. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Well, to me, it was so horrible I stopped the vid. I guess engraving the > Book of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a certain talent, but...... > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:32 PM > > Would anyone disagree that this guy is very talented? You my not like > his medieval style, but there's no doubt he's talented. > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: >> He's satisfying the need of many performers: to perform - whether the >> stuff >> one is doing is worth a crap or not. The desire to perform outweighs all. >> Talent is secondary. Just take a look at most contemporary pop, rock, rap >> music (or looping for that matter). >> >> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> From: Mark Sottilaro >> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM >> >> Nice hat. I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is untied!" >> >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota >> wrote: >>> That$BX7(B very strange indeed. He tied together his 2 guitars >>> with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy! >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bill Fox" >>> To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" >>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM >>> Subject: Weird Looping Guy >>> >>> >>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=D0u5eeXANfU >>>> Weird yet compelling. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 21:02:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D0CD3BE89; Mon, 18 May 2009 21:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Llcfh57jKcuOF3szbAwBPFnPqi6RJUEZyMSI1YXreE=; b=lSFgwTXvpBjt/nqEeab768kj3Q/7iLZcUZIUhN6PhgrkRjHf4NUhK3tx9uXyRqlhiZ SeJ9QX91BPd6TuF6kAegNVBJfNtVl/Kzxxc0zc+UXBDS5RKmkVzGCFrlVu9scZ1oKJ5x L1DUY0ErJdke7BplbiqbtdxJU0vFkF5e0W+gY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MfsovB2iQxuBm3mqnkttJhqaeODv3AWHnYunEwSAjUA0KcXASF3nOBJIQ5ROT2lIk/ dLa2Ezww1mdKEFV9Q4iCKHAbhO6UxsK/yOjLKnLELens/P5c4ul/d/a7+dPxUDMJUlAu RLiZpaygc4A2O7fyrBM8pImVBv57X6H0osdgs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01c9d7fa$f72ce440$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> References: <000a01c9d7fa$f72ce440$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:02:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: millennia preamp - OT From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:02:25 +0000 (UTC) ... considering it's around 3000 euros, how's not going to do it well with any sort of input sources? ... next life, maybe. i think it's targeted to pro studios not starving musicians like most of us. lucky guy! 2009/5/18, Erdem Helvacioglu : > hey, > > so sorry that this is off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1 > micpreamp ( with high impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the > greatest, most transparent preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my new > cello guitar came to life. it was as though i became a cellist :) > > if you get chance, please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it seems > that it will work great with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc. > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 21:18:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F5F83BE84; Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+EicO1cgO5dp0lDx5oVJb2AdL3o0W4vp4RcsoslClvc=; b=OUebbnFuNBWqjG0+7WFIML3S4gnxQg1y4v+yWpmxzcqI/LH2UqroryJFPckzKvu7SJ elDfSEE51nTCg1y0Nzy0v9/vUVr+7ztK6tbQ22tX9wbfm/uvBMryFZ6uTQLQdot9Gl+D AMw2w1zmeEBJp0zWfuf5+fZFfCA9670RaQbIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SbHXcPRZRzv5TbvO47c9I+zOJW75p+LxeVnhAzKp70kQwttnXrmJ02V/xjzgMLtdL9 m1ONyAwslajl4y5rWFOTDc1Xv2mK55XjboMQGm4IWKR7+VmUQLuLIKdZn7rvjTTUtX// tb99xXqE2dH3zTe56ewJs2Imx4Wg9aFXiIBJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <255203.95302.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:13:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905181413k212249d1vbf33809bbbf0bedf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:17 +0000 (UTC) 2009/5/18 Mark Sottilaro : > :shrug: It's one thing to say, "I don't like this" and yet another to > say "it was horrible." =A0It's subtle, but one is talking about you and > one is talking about them. > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: >> Well, to me, it was so horrible I stopped the vid. I guess engraving the >> Book of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a certain talent, but...... >> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 21:50:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 542DA3BE87; Mon, 18 May 2009 21:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LcJPu20mbhPigsuHUF/1ZNvrUHF+F68N6s85Sqr9IIw=; b=es7CsA/nW5FDzaovAQXaKg7c1kJNUDoEaGH5iKDXrBFOHHeAKjrGIH+Gh8hN1ytYoX UebcUEjRfyGVjcwhKJt4hJjhPHM7RLwuW5ymtVvtz7GQ0hL5NWNtHlPU/V5lPZBEgDmN vdtL0ghDGe940HubEHnD1pIm4CK9ntv7VR3vg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gnFp7GTEMhmbmGd6ogT1yNC7X9SP/Cn1ruxPFuJQvBYqJ6eI6Mog8DcshB6NEZecoo NC1QCBHlLQMhojaGwH6Hw+AMhgVpLuuGELwhLrk/Ddy3wpKpqj1jxMZU6Kb9YYXt22Dl bo9/YWlxMvM4qDHj3QfcvFCn1H0BHh+jhb/os= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640905180416t3940300foc318bd227a9be139@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> <4A104772.30204@tiscali.co.uk> <101191640905180413n46dd45d9n617bbc2ecf577498@mail.gmail.com> <101191640905180416t3940300foc318bd227a9be139@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:50:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:50:20 +0000 (UTC) echoplex manual ... 2009/5/18, Warren Sirota : > (I guess "proximate cause" would be the more accurate way of phrasing it) > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> It's not a book, but the film of Equus caused me to drop out of grad >> school, move to SF and try (at least for a while, but unsuccessfully) to >> be >> a full-time musician. >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 22:22:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1063BE81; Mon, 18 May 2009 22:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 899 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 18 May 2009 22:22:37 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000a01c9d7fa$f72ce440$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-236752615 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.4) Subject: Re: millennia preamp - OT X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:07:21 -0700 References: <000a01c9d7fa$f72ce440$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.4) X-Server-Quench: 4b358d42-43f8-11de-aecc-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRVfTcfFhpo UEhAUlBRHgVvCx8H SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB4 ekRnXHVEXAokcT8A RTIBVG0GY2RpaC4b UUhZOQcGcwZCKhtH d1R8AnsQYGRTM2cx EgQ4emhpZGUAcSkE GVkDcUQoTBRDGz84 Qx0EGzQmVVUfSiw2 N1RjYnkgdDYz X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:22:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-236752615 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (what is a cello guitar?) On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hey, > > so sorry that this is off topic. but today i tried the millennia > stt-1 micpreamp ( with high impedance instrument input. ) wow! this > is the greatest, most transparent preamp that i have ever heard. > incredible. my new cello guitar came to life. it was as though i > became a cellist :) > > if you get chance, please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it > seems that it will work great with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc. > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes --Apple-Mail-1-236752615 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (what is a cello = guitar?)



On May 18, = 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:

hey,
 
so sorry that = this is off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1 micpreamp ( = with high impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the greatest, most = transparent preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my new cello = guitar came to life. it was as though i became a cellist = :)
 
if you get chance, please do yourself a = favor and try this unit. it seems that it will work great with guitar, = bass, vocals, drums etc.
 
thanks and = best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
<= a = href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu">www.myspace.com/erdemhelv= acioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded = Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
 
"wounded breath album will open you up to new = experiences and 
allow you to explore = worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard = Marcus
 
"wounded breath is an outstanding = acousmatic record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching = extremes

= --Apple-Mail-1-236752615-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 22:38:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9723E3BE80; Mon, 18 May 2009 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lVempnzePclYLKNsdMp2kDjlxeM7ILTxII+aii7Vo6Q=; b=Xm0AhJTnowA3LPAuP+4Jqs07XUU+kN6JzXSoNnS1Im3lT+xWzbvtC2USBaXETNgMN0 eduf2LL6O+RFFoI14ypEH2Ov8cHD1mc8FdhFUkjToXySY392gTTLIzkTh3IpD1XTrD3P Zf45fV9GFlepLupPmegs3WIoiwjpy01kpgM/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cZBO4Y6VjVzMD03aSJp50NKRv4M5WBtHDQjP0g2nBIMsIMQshmVEMSUNGmIFcU9D5T S9MTpUoYg2YxOMLCf8v90CQsQO1DoFW6PN4xbyL6sETTh1JuSoR2AA1J/xzNqqCQm13L 2ZulRNox45EqZr8Z8a/UdL3TS9+hHR7Nf0T2U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905180832p55d92bbfoa21747295d2b34a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905180832p55d92bbfoa21747295d2b34a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:38:46 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905181538l4ad5c57buc5cb33075e8711ee@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: odd findings in the depth of the matrix From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a9ff0ca873046a3775f2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a9ff0ca873046a3775f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this blew me away the first year I went to y2K and met Mark and later saw his name go by on the opening credits of an earlier PS - I was amazed and still am and his last fall's set was wonderful, he was the closer act and it was just a great solo set... On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/de/Hamburg/default.mspx > > This may actually be the first mention of our stuff by Microsoft: > "[Mark Hamburg] has been a regular performer on electric guitar at the > annual Santa Cruz International Live Looping festival and has > photographed the last several festivals." > > Good luck in that new job of yours, Mark! I'm sure Microsoft needs you > more than Adobe did ;) > > Rainer > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a9ff0ca873046a3775f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this blew me away the first year I went to y2K and met Mark and later saw h= is name go by on the opening credits of an earlier PS - I was amazed and st= ill am and his last fall's set was wonderful, he was the closer act and= it was just a great solo set...

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Rainer Strasch= ill <moins= ound@googlemail.com> wrote:
http://www.mi= crosoft.com/presspass/exec/de/Hamburg/default.mspx

This may actually be the first mention of our stuff by Microsoft:
&q= uot;[Mark Hamburg] has been a regular performer on electric guitar at theannual Santa Cruz International Live Looping festival and has
photogra= phed the last several festivals."

Good luck in that new job of yours, Mark! I'm sure Microsoft needs = you
more than Adobe did ;)

=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer




--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming= soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5a9ff0ca873046a3775f2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 22:40:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 784683BE88; Mon, 18 May 2009 22:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bTpFyvg6mW0M2B6fe7ejzyPMtfwheUgKpTpvEr1JNhw=; b=aVdk5UzC0sIQMRwCKVW6BsHRSqd54WIttcfpxPE+xWjXCITqUVuhuTJt/zVnAi+v1P Yysf1hjkipNyLUZjs/Bk4hyRjiUpw//xbADXgJNnBbTjm1g4k7jY/Xt5sEHyGbgMKKGL tjlEM7DJhXjtgc0mXtAD9NtHfaSfgWvvx9gnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xmdX9YxQtf2c4ruYGEFhy3VRxoQEDKS4bhp7DuIRk6ErQJIIfJ0Z1Q7ixDAOe4kO9+ hJVFHeHW0INo5E0X260de1UDqC3TbA8mQNxce2L6ZlwgeMEKI2j1xDkp3Y1VfyAIFvQJ kLDKMIVs69aCdlRJBgBFV7FMTmHvyNvjh7DXc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 00:40:15 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905181540n25c88dcbn8f614851eb5bf658@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Stacking Static Parts and 100% Feedback in live looping From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Rick, I'm curious: did I write this to you in private correspondance (also about the low-cost looper), or to this list, or did I only THINK about writing that for me, currently variable feedback (of the EDP/delay type) and unrounded multiply are the most important loop-modification options, and for that reason, the DD20 (in delay mode) would be my preferred low-cost looper? ;). However, I digress... Of course, as you say, different approaches aren't worse or better than others, only some lend themselves better to specific musical goals than others. What interested me in your post was, as you said, "but I keep finding more and more things to do just by using starkly naked loops that don't morph over time but that are, through arrangement, recontextualized because of the parts that end up on top of them." I never consciously worked in that way, although I have found that some of the stuff you do (and also, more by chance), uses that effect (and I hope I correctly understand what you mean here): for example laying down a theme or short motif which seems to start on the beat, but by overdubbing a drum groove (or other unambigous reference), it suddenly appears offbeat. Of course, a lot of these things can be used in a much more flexible fashion by using a multitrack looper like Mobius or the Looperlative. Per already mentioned that he uses fades on individual tracks instead of varying feedback. Using the layers in the example before on tracks with different lengths will recontextualize them on each pass. This, however, both depends on looper implementations which are still, more complex than the "average looper", at least in the hardware domain. ...and with that, we're at the point where it gets interesting for me. When working with multiple loops, EDP-style feedback and time-variant processing, things will happen that while being strictly deterministic, are of a nonlinear fashion and thus chaotic. Loops of different lengths make a great basis for ever-changing rhythms (I tried something on a very dilletantic level here http://vimeo.com/4565667). Now set those loops with different lengths to different feedback values - and you got a changing volume relationship, which makes for some beautiful fadeouts to play against. The beautiful thing is that this works completely without user interaction from the point the feedback is set - thus freeing my to walk around and play while the loops change and slowly vanish (or slowly get replaced by something I choose to add). But I'd like to ask you as an intercessor of 100% feedback: how do you "remove density" from an existing loop arrangement? Ways I can think of: 1. mute/turn down individual tracks (requires multiple tracks) 2. reduce feedback (requires adjustable feedback) 3. "start over" with a new loop altogether (tricky with some user interfaces as with the SMM w/Hazari, as Andy Butler pointed out) 4. unrounded multiply/divide to cut to a part of the loop with low density (requires unrounded multiply/divide) 5. undo (requires undo functionality) Of course, using a Looperlative, you're in the nice situations that all of those are available to you. Which ones do you use - or don't you use any of these and have your arrangements always climax Ravel-style (or do you use another approach I didn't think of)? Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 23:05:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B63433BE81; Mon, 18 May 2009 23:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TROi1KtbSA9IG0667JvGa7rwTK2wEpkq+F/8QA0+MM0=; b=yA8fkTs8v/1qNPb+ibhrQc2R50pq/CLB4lJKhr7fijdSq+BUalycm4zuo3LU7OySWs CTI90HSY9hQiW250Vjrfr8XYtqzJUssZ8rChKJUKbQ7SG5g42Wrozv3KVEagvvYxGESh 3323UK3K7iby5/rLb5ySjRGv9vssp+WMSnP50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KBIRO6zv62mo1x2Po4skK+1J8J3viO7UYDPzjX6eYNVzj+1BFUqRIaF6kOzCayxck6 l77SZJkSSAs6r8Bv/RMIq2PvDMtBynYba6VRV0uGhP+xElTb3sNE4RLVL+WFiXdotXoQ G2AvTQdR+WDWXvhpIXDHVf01Qm3u1Fm8jXMHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20090512130243.29EAF3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A0FA75E.2040503@googlemail.com> <4A104772.30204@tiscali.co.uk> <101191640905180413n46dd45d9n617bbc2ecf577498@mail.gmail.com> <101191640905180416t3940300foc318bd227a9be139@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:05:01 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d8beb72a1f2c5c1a Message-ID: <101191640905181605nc4b0243j7bb2c6dbb7739e6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f813a2eb3c2c046a37d2c0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:05:01 +0000 (UTC) --001485f813a2eb3c2c046a37d2c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LOL On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > echoplex manual ... > > 2009/5/18, Warren Sirota : > > (I guess "proximate cause" would be the more accurate way of phrasing it) > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Warren Sirota >wrote: > > > >> It's not a book, but the film of Equus caused me to drop out of grad > >> school, move to SF and try (at least for a while, but unsuccessfully) to > >> be > >> a full-time musician. > >> > >> -- > >> Warren > >> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > >> http://www.warrensirota.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Warren > > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > > http://www.warrensirota.com > > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --001485f813a2eb3c2c046a37d2c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LOL

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Raul= Bonell <raul= .bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
echoplex manual ...

2009/5/18, Warren Sirota <wsiro= ta@wsdesigns.com>:
> (I guess "proximate cause"= would be the more accurate way of phrasing it)
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>wrote:
>
>> It's not a book, but the film of Equus caused me to drop out o= f grad
>> school, move to SF and try (at least for a while, but unsuccessful= ly) to
>> be
>> a full-time musician.
>>
>> --
>> Warren
>> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
>> http://w= ww.warrensirota.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Warren
> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
> http://www.w= arrensirota.com
>


--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com




--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.c= om/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
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--001485f813a2eb3c2c046a37d2c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 18 23:16:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 535D03BE85; Mon, 18 May 2009 23:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nqok5Duog/aUpEACjpYsGnV+ceWBeZIPyzi1oPKhhdM=; b=wrdXjJR5bJ09tqs0DNBVCZd5VOPBSvpQv+XjjK/DvuZMFUBXHzTKjkBXJtatFfavPA 1xVTGZ1zq/eVUXe8PtTSEp5XPMGV4iBqowRvlazm04YXFLCTF4D31GYteMe+sDqeWVoa rQyoBhkJUeZSEvIZlsEami1PeB8ZeL4PxgKWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B4Dbk8cZVsRN0o2wnP8wk04elDJFqqIv/j7ke5tldVSnqlrsdmTkJ1/25g7/0KmDJ9 iGq5L/UXxRtjNxZj2ulLz8PN+KvI0bYRVA5lAvkixPsMDHkiZlAHGyx8voWIYg7AIpEn 8kwutz9VqDbSU22Y/vZRrwhll77GcrU8y6rCM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000a01c9d7fa$f72ce440$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:16:24 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0905181616w39e269c0vf4a53a24cbebba87@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: millennia preamp - OT From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64136e6a1698b046a37fb6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:16:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64136e6a1698b046a37fb6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Zoe, I think he is referring to the Guitar viols by Jonathan Wilson. He makes a cello model that is actually tuned like like a 5 string bass but it is an octave higher outting it in the 'cello range' http://www.togamanguitars.com/downloads/index.php Scroll to the bottom and there is a video of him playing his guitar cello model. It sounds pretty awesome. Todd Matthews On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > (what is a cello guitar?) > > > > On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > > hey, > > so sorry that this is off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1 > micpreamp ( with high impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the > greatest, most transparent preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my new > cello guitar came to life. it was as though i became a cellist :) > > if you get chance, please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it seems > that it will work great with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc. > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes > > > --0016e64136e6a1698b046a37fb6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Zoe,

I think he is referring to the Guitar viols by= =A0Jonathan Wilson. He makes a cello model that is actually tuned like like= a 5 string bass but it is an octave higher outting it in the 'cello ra= nge'=A0


=
Scroll to the bottom and there is a video of him playing his gui= tar cello model. It sounds pretty awesome.


Todd Matthews

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe Keating <= info@zoekeating.com> w= rote:
(what i= s a cello guitar?)


On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:
hey,
=A0
so sorry that this is off topic. but toda= y i tried the millennia stt-1 micpreamp ( with high impedance instrument in= put. ) wow! this is the greatest, most transparent preamp that i have ever = heard. incredible. my new cello guitar came to life. it was as though i bec= ame a cellist :)
=A0
if you get chance, please do yourself a favor and try th= is unit. it seems that it will work great with guitar, bass, vocals, drums = etc.
=A0
thanks and best.
=A0
Erdem= Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelv= acioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * *= * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid= =3D23
=A0
"wounded breath album will open you up to new exper= iences and=A0
allow you to explore worlds previously closed= to you."
Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
=A0
"= ;wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching extremes

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--0016e64136e6a1698b046a37fb6c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 02:10:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D9533BE7E; Tue, 19 May 2009 02:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242699014; bh=8x/SfYDfbCyRavQoFnqLk68Ly1NbpCk9PhEFaMYeqcc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YJuTi2BPbeHngBE1fLhGlwOkFCCjG56057ZCPqNFfnc8ZG2sLwURydRr4IH6Kja7GEVYs0QBCH5H3AUkWJ8M3AyYNrftcI8yPTKXgleUgDBLWnGYwP5ThqQVWwqwfuIRQRQKFjJZD4b0JTW8bv/6utHj46jNEGbFB/EwF0iNgiM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m0SSirnkukc2b5peebRImkoJhDUm9577lEfZ6DJ+xnK5FA9GfHGMDrG4HgWJosJ/QNItm/sxfKxUfJillxzRRDeaftQ7EZ+PfTd73aAd4Li6pwnk3fRE0LZz7Ye25hJM8dhYG9TRZum+iPd9S21/Vz0BCkMvm4wCoWcXc0hU6eM=; Message-ID: <596561.18617.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fVCmpVYVM1nC0dSrEgbQ2UAFL7EiihUjrroeP6XZvpIb1D2sMpO.noh7SFxTj3DNFnFv_7YVrebkXXbcNzU7N6_V9sLDEJ5uFTwVz.1lHLcioAHvpZEc6fN5in1nzUL.G3I2WbFIzi11LQ1jRPKdPD.vIyrgeLolkBoev_jKYR5I1xa4cR8GZag.ieSmOH.XNH0LJJEqBPOkM.wmFy54OonMUte.cBWfDAGR8zsHC5gJwErIIZLpYmmGEyawheprEt43buvBTvzdQAFYwhZfdMByMtjB_rpShiYh.5o4yO_iSRi2XlrQGWv6PDNA7ZLZFSwO9F9CXGqmDL6go0VWqHt6PEmmxiLYlsSt5B292Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:10:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-510587621-1242699014=:18617" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:10:15 +0000 (UTC) --0-510587621-1242699014=:18617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only thing that performance lacked were the services of a lead singer. = But, alas, Tiny Tim passed away years back. --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:56 PM :shrug: It's one thing to say, "I don't like this" and yet another to say "it was horrible."=C2=A0 It's subtle, but one is talking about you and one is talking about them. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Well, to me, it was so horrible I stopped the vid. I guess engraving the > Book of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a certain talent, but...... > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:32 PM > > Would anyone disagree that this guy is very talented?=C2=A0 You my not li= ke > his medieval style, but there's no doubt he's talented. > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: >> He's satisfying the need of many performers: to perform -=C2=A0 whether = the >> stuff >> one is doing is worth a crap or not. The desire to perform outweighs all= . >> Talent is secondary. Just take a look at most contemporary pop, rock, ra= p >> music (or looping for that matter). >> >> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> From: Mark Sottilaro >> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM >> >> Nice hat.=C2=A0 I wonder if his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is un= tied!" >> >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota >> wrote: >>> That=E6=84=80 very strange indeed. He tied together his 2 guitars >>> with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy! >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bill Fox" >>> To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" >>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:45 AM >>> Subject: Weird Looping Guy >>> >>> >>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DD0u5eeXANfU >>>> Weird yet compelling. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > =0A=0A=0A --0-510587621-1242699014=:18617 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= /tr>
The only thing that performance lacked were t= he services of a lead singer. But, alas, Tiny Tim passed away years back.
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:56 PM

:shrug: It's one thing to say, "I don't like this" a= nd yet another to
say "it was horrible."  It's subtle, but one is t= alking about you and
one is talking about them.

On Mon, May 18, 2= 009 at 1:50 PM, Paul Richards
<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We= ll, to me, it was so horrible I stopped the vid. I guess engraving the
&= gt; Book of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a certain talent, but......=
>
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
&g= t;
> From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:32 PM
>
>= Would anyone disagree that this guy is very talented?  You my not lik= e
> his medieval style, but there's no doubt he's talented.
>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Paul Richards
> <paulrichard_rocks@yaho= o.com> wrote:
>> He's satisfying the need of many performer= s: to perform -  whether the
>> stuff
>> one is doin= g is worth a crap or not. The desire to perform outweighs all.
>> = Talent is secondary. Just take a look at most contemporary pop, rock, rap
>= > music (or looping for that matter).
>>
>> --- On Mon= , 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Ma= rk Sottilaro <zerocr= ossing@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
>= > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Date: Monday,= May 18, 2009, 3:42 PM
>>
>> Nice hat.  I wonder if = his hecklers yell, "Hey, you're guitar is untied!"
>>
>> = On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de>
>> wrote:
>>> T= hat=E6=84=80 very strange indeed. He tied together his 2 guitars
>>= ;> with a strange leather bag or so... Huuu what a guy!
>>><= BR>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bill Fo= x" <billyfox@soundsc= apes.us>
>>> To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" <Loo= pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May = 18, 2009 3:45 AM
>>> Subject: Weird Looping Guy
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://youtube.com/watch= ?v=3DD0u5eeXANfU
>>>> Weird yet compelling.
>>&= gt;>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>= Bill
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
&g= t;>
>>
>
>
>


=0A=0A --0-510587621-1242699014=:18617-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 02:13:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 573AC3BE7E; Tue, 19 May 2009 02:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1215D9.5020602@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:13:45 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Omnibus tour spam References: <7334ca1b0905181540n25c88dcbn8f614851eb5bf658@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905181540n25c88dcbn8f614851eb5bf658@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-QRSB.A.dLB.bXhEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:13:47 +0000 (UTC) I flew into CA this morning and will be playing the first date of my long summer tour this thursday. As with last year, I'll be meeting up with a number of LD members along the way, one thing I'm especially looking forward to. About half the dates are looping gigs, which I've especially called out on this list. Thanks especially to the folks who booked/organized an event around my dates - Kris, Ted and Matt! and Dave Trenkel who hooked me up in Corvallis, and Travis, Nevyn, Bob Collier, Rev, Jeremy Devros, Richard, Ted, and many others I've sadly overlooked who gave excellent venue and other help in booking this trip. Details for all these on my calendar - http://www.swanwelder.com/calendar.htm. More dates are a-comin'. would love to see & meet folks out there! -- Thursday, May 21, Mai's Café, Ventura, CA (w/Susan D, Yul Vianzon) Saturday, May 23, The Spot Café & Lounge, Culver City, CA (w/Toddy Ivy, Pi Jacobs) Sunday, May 24, Viento y Agua, Long Beach, CA (noontime show) Tuesday, May 26, Trummerflora house show, THEN Soda Bar (w/Basshaters, Peninsula Project), San Diego, CA (LOOPING sets) Wednesday, May 27, Borders - National City, Chula Vista, CA Saturday, May 30, Eclectic Company, Santa Ana, CA (LOOPING SET) Sunday, May 31, Pharoah's Den, Riverside, CA (LOOPING SET) Thursday, Jun 4, Luggage Store Gallery (w/Orchesperry as part of Matthew Sperry tribute), San Francisco, CA Friday, Jun 5, Fox and Goose, Sacramento, CA (w/Ross Hammond) Saturday, Jun 6, Godwaffle Noise Pancakes (daytime show, w/Cerebral Roil), San Francisco, CA (LOOPING/NOISE SET) Saturday, Jun 6, Bluesix, San Francisco, CA (w/Travis Johns, my chum Julie Zielinski, and a really excellent headliner I need to keep mum about for now...) Monday, Jun 8, SMF Series (venue TBD), Sacramento, CA (w/Ross Hammond) (LOOPING SET) Wednesday, Jun 10, 21 Grand, Oakland, CA (LOOPING SET, w/*LD'er Matt Davignon!!* ) Thursday, Jun 11, Christian Church of Ashland, Medford, OR (LOOPING SET, w/*LD'er Ted Killian!!*) Friday, Jun 12, Cloud 9, Corvallis, OR (LOOPING SET after acoustic set) Saturday, Jun 13, Portland Playhouse, Portland, OR (w/Juan Prophet Organization, Fruition String Band, and Meyercord) Sunday, Jun 14, Dunes, Portland, OR (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Nevyn Nowhere!!*) Monday, Jun 15, Eastside Club, Olympia, WA (pending confirmation) Tuesday, Jun 16, Chai House, Seattle, WA (acoustic set, but w/*LD'er Travis Hartnett!!*) Wednesday, Jun 17, Three Shapes Akido, Boise, ID (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Krispen Hartung!!*, Jared Hallock, Aaron Davis) Thursday, Jun 18, The Compound, Provo, UT (LOOPING SET) Friday, Jun 19, Tenn Street Coffee, Denver, CO Saturday, Jun 20, Moka's Coffee, Newton, KS Tuesday, Jun 23, End of an Ear, Austin, TX (LOOPING SET) Wednesday, Jun 24, venue TBD, El Paso, TX Friday, Jun 26, The Living Room, Tucson, AZ Saturday, Jun 27, Fiddler's Dream, Phoenix, AZ Tuesday, Jun 30, Mayorga Coffee Factory, Silver Spring, MD Wednesday, Jul 1, Badgerhaus, Raleigh, NC (LOOPING SET w/*ex-LD'er Steve Burnett/Subscape Annex!!*) Thursday, Jul 2, Gillie's, Blacksburg, VA Saturday, Jul 4, Arefa's Espresso, Pittsburgh, PA Tuesday, Jul 7, venue TBD, Madison, WI Wednesday, Jul 8, venue TBD, Chicago, IL (LOOPING SET) Thursday, Jul 9, venue TBD, Goshen, IN Friday, Jul 10, Waterloo Café, Cleveland, OH Saturday, Jul 11, Electronic Cafe, Cleveland, OH (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Jim Goodin!!* as Chinapainting, part of Ingenuity Festival) Sunday, Jul 12, Electronic Cafe, Cleveland, OH (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Jim Goodin!!* as Chinapainting, part of Ingenuity Festival) Monday, Jul 13, Tequila Bookworm, Toronto, ON (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er (I think...at least a Loopfest participant) James Bailey!!*, *LD'er Ted Harms!!*, Mimo, Jay Hay) Tuesday, Jul 14, venue TBD, Montreal, QE Friday, Jul 17, Radio Bean, Burlington, VT Saturday, Jul 18, Outpost 186, Cambridge, MA (LOOPING SET w/Jonathan Lamaster from Cul de Sac) Sunday, Jul 19, ABC No Rio, New York, NY (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Jim Goodin!!* as Chinapainting) Friday, Jul 24, venue TBD, Philadelphia, PA (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Jim Goodin!!* as Chinapainting) Saturday, Jul 25, private event, Lancaster, PA Saturday, Jul 25, venue TBD, Lancaster, PA -- I do love the road. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 02:15:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E15B3BE85; Tue, 19 May 2009 02:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242699301; bh=Mll9wQb3O1H1V9Nr6F8qiaCO2vISLfqzGOWs5iUgBWs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xrZN00iX8D9sDLIYkY1+hhQOAAQs28UJUX9xIynlYhZmwMwvj4dtLukuH3H5L900E63HjH9+SjOn7ZPO9KXDb4FZzDdijxKzbLQLrpOCx47l8ytWWqmpRiETo1RZ07OweHpDeIot4iOq9B8pDaOqzdVh/f286TajVyUvcqekSYo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tY8V8y4WG0td9kB8wV0xXjVpxB7xQewBcbHbo66Kae1nnMDi5FAc8DP+QN9asL/6muQNc83wToBkObPPxOyxmFhNZJc3IeEwhH8jqPLtNEonA/zsFA5hRCGWYSwFPnIi3vJaFXLTys+iB+jJtHOYuy3iAXXBT+MRpz+lYjq2BBI=; Message-ID: <778453.52212.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:15:01 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: re: Looping shoes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, billwalker@baymoon.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:15:03 +0000 (UTC) beautiful Bill! why didnt u used them at the y2k8? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- William Walker schrieb am So, 17.5.2009: > Von: William Walker > Betreff: re: Looping shoes > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Sonntag, 17. Mai 2009, 19:49 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > These have > always worked for me,=20 >=20 > =C2=A0http://www.halloweencostumes.com/acc-kiss-demon-boots.html >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 > but seriously > David, I think, having read most of these > threads, Krispen =E2=80=98s idea looks most intriguing, kind > of like having > webbed feat (which I=E2=80=99ve always wanted to have). > Krispen have you actually > used these things? Vibram has been the soul of choice for > climbers and hikers > for decades, and these look tre=E2=80=99 cool in a Gollum > sort of way=E2=80=A6=20 >=20 > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 02:23:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 015F33BE88; Tue, 19 May 2009 02:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n1UaqrANPcqGd2OglgxZTnA263r/vftvT5jEr29rJ0s=; b=krQ631662p7Q654gE3U8E58ETcTNYNiLLOyjI7QlSoF3vSPufPKBMU/wftfTCTN2mm 3BCJQXNUYa7ZRq1KbJQ31DNIiR8P0CRiIH7YguPPXBbBLYQ85owc8DL3GHdpolE4rW13 wGFdQM1VmJ3nBVdv8zB9HGAa0L1oa8jkqaMi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qn/Rtr30Dpom+2LulWJ3Hq4gIt5OAwH0k6zVVHtqipvlIDq3dJYmmp1Y0id7GDAFNT egj2xUugL4hHV5rtbsz0uddSnbiRbyGuCmDz0I9+kyjZFHZAFCGEH3UlG3AabTPWKTPO TU86ioz7w23h7ODCIKV7m2u860Z+bsw5rt6fQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1215D9.5020602@mhorse.com> References: <7334ca1b0905181540n25c88dcbn8f614851eb5bf658@mail.gmail.com> <4A1215D9.5020602@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 04:23:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Omnibus tour spam From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:23:38 +0000 (UTC) ahhhhh ... ! what a list !! 2009/5/19, Daryl Shawn : > I flew into CA this morning and will be playing the first date of my > long summer tour this thursday. As with last year, I'll be meeting up > with a number of LD members along the way, one thing I'm especially > looking forward to. About half the dates are looping gigs, which I've > especially called out on this list. > > Thanks especially to the folks who booked/organized an event around my > dates - Kris, Ted and Matt! and Dave Trenkel who hooked me up in > Corvallis, and Travis, Nevyn, Bob Collier, Rev, Jeremy Devros, Richard, > Ted, and many others I've sadly overlooked who gave excellent venue and > other help in booking this trip. > > Details for all these on my calendar - > http://www.swanwelder.com/calendar.htm. More dates are a-comin'. > > would love to see & meet folks out there! > > -- > Thursday, May 21, Mai's Caf=E9, Ventura, CA (w/Susan D, Yul Vianzon) > Saturday, May 23, The Spot Caf=E9 & Lounge, Culver City, CA (w/Toddy Ivy, > Pi Jacobs) > Sunday, May 24, Viento y Agua, Long Beach, CA (noontime show) > Tuesday, May 26, Trummerflora house show, THEN Soda Bar (w/Basshaters, > Peninsula Project), San Diego, CA (LOOPING sets) > Wednesday, May 27, Borders - National City, Chula Vista, CA > Saturday, May 30, Eclectic Company, Santa Ana, CA (LOOPING SET) > Sunday, May 31, Pharoah's Den, Riverside, CA (LOOPING SET) > Thursday, Jun 4, Luggage Store Gallery (w/Orchesperry as part of Matthew > Sperry tribute), San Francisco, CA > Friday, Jun 5, Fox and Goose, Sacramento, CA (w/Ross Hammond) > Saturday, Jun 6, Godwaffle Noise Pancakes (daytime show, w/Cerebral > Roil), San Francisco, CA (LOOPING/NOISE SET) > Saturday, Jun 6, Bluesix, San Francisco, CA (w/Travis Johns, my chum > Julie Zielinski, and a really excellent headliner I need to keep mum > about for now...) > Monday, Jun 8, SMF Series (venue TBD), Sacramento, CA (w/Ross Hammond) > (LOOPING SET) > Wednesday, Jun 10, 21 Grand, Oakland, CA (LOOPING SET, w/*LD'er Matt > Davignon!!* ) > Thursday, Jun 11, Christian Church of Ashland, Medford, OR (LOOPING SET, > w/*LD'er Ted Killian!!*) > Friday, Jun 12, Cloud 9, Corvallis, OR (LOOPING SET after acoustic set) > Saturday, Jun 13, Portland Playhouse, Portland, OR (w/Juan Prophet > Organization, Fruition String Band, and Meyercord) > Sunday, Jun 14, Dunes, Portland, OR (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Nevyn Nowhere!!= *) > Monday, Jun 15, Eastside Club, Olympia, WA (pending confirmation) > Tuesday, Jun 16, Chai House, Seattle, WA (acoustic set, but w/*LD'er > Travis Hartnett!!*) > Wednesday, Jun 17, Three Shapes Akido, Boise, ID (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er > Krispen Hartung!!*, Jared Hallock, Aaron Davis) > Thursday, Jun 18, The Compound, Provo, UT (LOOPING SET) > Friday, Jun 19, Tenn Street Coffee, Denver, CO > Saturday, Jun 20, Moka's Coffee, Newton, KS > Tuesday, Jun 23, End of an Ear, Austin, TX (LOOPING SET) > Wednesday, Jun 24, venue TBD, El Paso, TX > Friday, Jun 26, The Living Room, Tucson, AZ > Saturday, Jun 27, Fiddler's Dream, Phoenix, AZ > Tuesday, Jun 30, Mayorga Coffee Factory, Silver Spring, MD > Wednesday, Jul 1, Badgerhaus, Raleigh, NC (LOOPING SET w/*ex-LD'er Steve > Burnett/Subscape Annex!!*) > Thursday, Jul 2, Gillie's, Blacksburg, VA > Saturday, Jul 4, Arefa's Espresso, Pittsburgh, PA > Tuesday, Jul 7, venue TBD, Madison, WI > Wednesday, Jul 8, venue TBD, Chicago, IL (LOOPING SET) > Thursday, Jul 9, venue TBD, Goshen, IN > Friday, Jul 10, Waterloo Caf=E9, Cleveland, OH > Saturday, Jul 11, Electronic Cafe, Cleveland, OH (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er > Jim Goodin!!* as Chinapainting, part of Ingenuity Festival) > Sunday, Jul 12, Electronic Cafe, Cleveland, OH (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Jim > Goodin!!* as Chinapainting, part of Ingenuity Festival) > Monday, Jul 13, Tequila Bookworm, Toronto, ON (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er (I > think...at least a Loopfest participant) James Bailey!!*, *LD'er Ted > Harms!!*, Mimo, Jay Hay) > Tuesday, Jul 14, venue TBD, Montreal, QE > Friday, Jul 17, Radio Bean, Burlington, VT > Saturday, Jul 18, Outpost 186, Cambridge, MA (LOOPING SET w/Jonathan > Lamaster from Cul de Sac) > Sunday, Jul 19, ABC No Rio, New York, NY (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Jim > Goodin!!* as Chinapainting) > Friday, Jul 24, venue TBD, Philadelphia, PA (LOOPING SET w/*LD'er Jim > Goodin!!* as Chinapainting) > Saturday, Jul 25, private event, Lancaster, PA > Saturday, Jul 25, venue TBD, Lancaster, PA > -- > > I do love the road. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 02:24:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 350963BE86; Tue, 19 May 2009 02:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242699865; bh=+AQ5IkNRvsntaYMYJWj9JcxYdT4mLMU83hwAGWJDknc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IzG/8eCKOhfL3ZBJj9dzRmmEBFgwNN1FX59Gjj6UGbGQNht8BMVTlO7mHCQCdMzSAYC5b7frvszGzJ0Xv7ORaD3KbnvZ2MXMUeb9qxD0Q4ZgESqqmRTfqkz2VN61b2cEyo4vALYRgUU2M9vqMObYBLPedZC5uMPC0P5N6dLA+/0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vjdzaAPwJUea3TWU78ZTdHL6dDVRZBjvtiaMvL0Pw0L3pKI66VADvdOb2FkXhY2bJ70/oDmDsDPvkuECSorai6Ax3Jd6g0/88rWHFgwYX8QhF/ZLPd/nDHiIRw16KZL8OEOezpEqxMqByq1Ls/A5Y6X12BbU6SNRC9lrR/YsfV0=; Message-ID: <621426.59774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LNf6S1UVM1k8OhTUD2T3UNRXbKTxU7wwoy_zS8kPJ.nSgKw9_fX9_iPLvDm9xlWYoxsj9YSWL..0eLuYxGpzTmRCCtT..C0L61ejd03CzF04UmM2zTSs0i5XdRQFqQS5LW_R9L22Sy48NATUebcYEgKSWIPINoLv6vbGDmvwICSjS84ObS01fUW9jBDcLDNeDiG8pnr5ynoW47DqmcwoLO1fhJ9StRe9F1ssKrAW55GkG.G163H.gwsTGts4EOjbIV.uW8vzngG2Gw7h7M40ulZ6R5PkErtPn0TfAUhygL2uhKb5AEeyIJXm1gSSDr2jesw7EY.HP8xFTrm8havlh20guaeOGs_lghZMemDbpC.XMw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:24:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1834888834-1242699865=:59774" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:24:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-1834888834-1242699865=:59774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. I'm sure you could say the same about Debbie Boone, Esteban or Kriss C= ross.=20 --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Miko Biffle wrote: From: Miko Biffle Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 5:13 PM 2009/5/18 Mark Sottilaro : > :shrug: It's one thing to say, "I don't like this" and yet another to > say "it was horrible." =A0It's subtle, but one is talking about you and > one is talking about them. > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: >> Well, to me, it was so horrible I stopped the vid. I guess engraving the >> Book of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a certain talent, but...... >> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" =0A=0A=0A --0-1834888834-1242699865=:59774 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes. I'm sure you could say the same about De= bbie Boone, Esteban or Kriss Cross.

--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Miko Bi= ffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com>
Sub= ject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
D= ate: Monday, May 18, 2009, 5:13 PM

2009/5/18 Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>:
> :shrug: = It's one thing to say, "I don't like this" and yet another to
> say "= it was horrible."  It's subtle, but one is talking about you and
&g= t; one is talking about them.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:50 = PM, Paul Richards
> <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Well,= to me, it was so horrible I stopped the vid. I guess engraving the
>= > Book of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a certain talent, but.....= .
>>

IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time an= d effort in the
execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and h= e pretty much
pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a = fan is up
to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow=
clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's<= BR>staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and
blis= sfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought.
--
Miko Biffl= e
Biffoz@Gmail.com
MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com<= /A>
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"


=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1834888834-1242699865=:59774-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 03:27:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B3653BE8B; Tue, 19 May 2009 03:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <9ea2f30b0905181616w39e269c0vf4a53a24cbebba87@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: millennia preamp - OT Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:27:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C9D7F7.1F260890" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0905181616w39e269c0vf4a53a24cbebba87@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcnYL/3Yfy7a93vNQBi9YnZky0zVpAAAGFiA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:27:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C9D7F7.1F260890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep that's correct, they sound amazing BTW. A truly unique instrument that has a curved fretted fingerboard and is meant to be bowed, the sound is very warm and woody, and dare I say cello-like in timbre. Its an ideal instrument for a guitarist wanting to get in to the world of bowed instruments, or a cellist wanting to get more chordal and guitar-like. It aint cheap by guitar standards but it's a bargain by classical cello standards. Small portable and fits in one of those cool coffin cases. The proprietary pickups sound wonderful and can handle any kind of volume or signal processing without feedback issues. I got to hear it when Erdem first got it and I was floored by the sound. bill _____ From: Todd Matthews [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: millennia preamp - OT Hey Zoe, I think he is referring to the Guitar viols by Jonathan Wilson. He makes a cello model that is actually tuned like like a 5 string bass but it is an octave higher outting it in the 'cello range' http://www.togamanguitars.com/downloads/index.php Scroll to the bottom and there is a video of him playing his guitar cello model. It sounds pretty awesome. Todd Matthews On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: (what is a cello guitar?) On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: hey, so sorry that this is off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1 micpreamp ( with high impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the greatest, most transparent preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my new cello guitar came to life. it was as though i became a cellist :) if you get chance, please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it seems that it will work great with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc. thanks and best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail &cid=23 "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C9D7F7.1F260890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yep that’s correct, they = sound amazing BTW. A truly unique instrument that has a curved fretted = fingerboard and is meant to be bowed, the sound is very warm and woody, and dare I = say cello-like in timbre. Its an ideal instrument for a guitarist wanting to = get in to the world of bowed instruments, or a cellist wanting to get more = chordal and guitar-like. It aint cheap by guitar standards but it’s a bargain = by classical cello standards. Small portable and fits in one of those cool = coffin cases. The proprietary pickups sound wonderful and can handle any kind = of volume or signal processing without feedback issues. I got to hear it = when Erdem first got it and I was floored by the sound. =

 

 bill<= /p>

 

From: Todd = Matthews [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 18, = 2009 4:16 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: millennia = preamp - OT

 

Hey Zoe,

 

I think he is referring to the Guitar viols by Jonathan = Wilson. He makes a cello model that is actually tuned like like a 5 string bass but = it is an octave higher outting it in the 'cello = range' 

 

 

Scroll to the bottom and there is a video of him playing his = guitar cello model. It sounds pretty awesome.

 

 

Todd = Matthews

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe = Keating <info@zoekeating.com> = wrote:

(what is a cello guitar?)

 

 

 

On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu = wrote:



hey,

 

so sorry = that this is off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1 micpreamp ( with high impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the greatest, most = transparent preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my new cello guitar came to = life. it was as though i became a cellist :)

 

if you get = chance, please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it seems that it will work = great with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc.

 

thanks and = best.

 

Erdem = Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&ci= d=3D23

 

"wounded= breath album will open you up to new experiences and 
allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard Marcus

 

"wounded= breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching extremes

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C9D7F7.1F260890-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 03:35:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C7E93BE91; Tue, 19 May 2009 03:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MXQXqVitga/ohtd94fqZqTEHUvsltnkG/+Vk2avalTo=; b=FxQSmsl9wFO92CnQLs+fEZjuL72pH6K4CV7QHKynWf/U9jaA5Idj7FZ03FAvD3EXHa AxR8jlg1xLm5lCWtbM9dQF5jSjAXAlUsRO5PYJqOZNN8Rl8rQOy+RVMrhmrOHVn1+vun RSWqvIGVREXXQtXHbZFJDYtLUTEwM9rK5cuuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RE7lHNZVqMEkLNNgHBRLspkJgtwTUwx3cC/K/LaFu0XFBm336DmDpFJh7eRzcqGnBQ rgiSB2crgaYo1YPfMX8YOZocfW1jl3tsgSKy++KYS1DIEX5f8jkQMMwWr5r8xWFZ3Hyq HXpyWgUYH2C7fDmQbS89TSDa9Hsezq5jS+6yw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <621426.59774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <621426.59774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:35:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905182035m2063f9aex38c507790cb0b6cc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Rather than add another "me too!" dismissal, I chose philosophical. This example was posted to our list by Bill Fox as "strangely compelling", and the ensuing comments on "quality" brought the thought to mind. Of course YMMV. -m Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Yes. I'm sure you could say the same about Debbie Boone, Esteban or Kriss= Cross. > From: Miko Biffle > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 5:13 PM > > 2009/5/18 Mark Sottilaro : >> :shrug: It's one thing to say, "I don't like this" and yet another to sa= y "it was horrible." =A0It's subtle, but one is talking about you and one i= s talking about them. >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Paul Richards >> wrote: >>> Well, to me, it was so horrible I stopped the vid. I guess engraving th= e Book of Genesis on a head of a pin requires a certain talent, but...... > IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the > execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much > pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up > to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow > clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's > staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and > blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. > -- > Miko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 03:35:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D374D3BEA2; Tue, 19 May 2009 03:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'L.Angulo'" , References: <778453.52212.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Looping shoes Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:35:31 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <778453.52212.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcnYJ6DOkuTFizYaSGWINRAreuxvAQACGuCA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Because they were getting re-soled, duh!!! Also my matching sliver = lame' codpiece was at the cleaners Bill -----Original Message----- From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:15 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com; billwalker@baymoon.com Subject: re: Looping shoes beautiful Bill! why didnt u used them at the y2k8? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- William Walker schrieb am So, 17.5.2009: > Von: William Walker > Betreff: re: Looping shoes > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Sonntag, 17. Mai 2009, 19:49 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > These have > always worked for me,=20 >=20 > =A0http://www.halloweencostumes.com/acc-kiss-demon-boots.html >=20 >=20 >=20 > =A0=20 >=20 >=20 > =A0=20 >=20 > but seriously > David, I think, having read most of these > threads, Krispen =91s idea looks most intriguing, kind > of like having > webbed feat (which I=92ve always wanted to have). > Krispen have you actually > used these things? Vibram has been the soul of choice for > climbers and hikers > for decades, and these look tre=92 cool in a Gollum > sort of way=85=20 >=20 > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 03:39:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 591AA3BE94; Tue, 19 May 2009 03:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VURSqGmnnAUawRn0aetq/qOoI2i+b9/rfpXytIhjwjA=; b=W5VG7u/jrKDQGokVKVumyRTDSKBekBJ5rJBYtQOrmoePZEyITuSq6lhA2v8gdNvqEI wY80GCwpM0bdy/yb1COvwPvjF5fLXkjwtKoXdDhpkGUD92Kodq1DQ/EZX55IuromZjwm BPe7La8RlK8ru7ghgUn6lg0zvq8MXFVUJ0b4Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fXz1ORtM9KjAIzZAqviwhUsKU7Fp7G85o0mo66Sk0ppo4VZFT5bf5F3hBhjkDoz7tj os82aqWf6K0vN6gJkDkvPOH2jY31UNCk+o8HJvPnbjp4fm945OUpXU4E3TZUP8ej4IAP 0zvtr9oLIm9TsCcVaHjZwikX9X9RSP5Qt0xcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30905181413k212249d1vbf33809bbbf0bedf@mail.gmail.com> References: <255203.95302.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <3fa302e30905181413k212249d1vbf33809bbbf0bedf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:39:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Agreed. I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it. > IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the > execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much > pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up > to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow > clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's > staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and > blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. > -- > Miko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 03:40:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35D133BEA6; Tue, 19 May 2009 03:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242704430; bh=zl+B5CZE83xYgWLk3slflQ1lmblNFD4R3qwV3h6iWD4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=q2Pt30hWuc5/THzpRx81G7oLENtdcN8nGhTL/ERUIuqx4jxCrMy4Rr6m2CjZDgpnt3iZpAy4zgiV0MgCL4oPHGMcPHjHhvgEdRF6B3Wep+dptIPyPmDJPcK7T3t1fPv4LWUYda0jAKu4q9oiD8swW6F6DCl06ZBgzoGkX8vFb5I= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=na9CD7+dDIWD090bVQ86pVIXeM+2HAS0LuUuXozd1YfwdRZcUCLEZiHvReZl6kuaMuvo8lk2e5lk++0l93ymnbsSBh+yB/1SN8RQvdOfP0BWql4dSZYCm31/ntzIbk+4nF9An5DklzPetIUQeC1yDTO+HLfxm1tOqi8z0YIODDg=; Message-ID: <843985.74657.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:40:29 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: millennia preamp - OT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, billwalker@baymoon.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1YRDoB.A.RJE.voiEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:40:32 +0000 (UTC) this does look amazing!i take it Erdem is using the electric model? models with midi wow but i wonder about the tracking! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- William Walker schrieb am Mo, 18.5.2009: > Von: William Walker > Betreff: RE: millennia preamp - OT > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 18. Mai 2009, 20:27 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Yep > that=E2=80=99s correct, they sound > amazing BTW. A truly unique instrument that has a curved > fretted fingerboard > and is meant to be bowed, the sound is very warm and woody, > and dare I say > cello-like in timbre. Its an ideal instrument for a > guitarist wanting to get in > to the world of bowed instruments, or a cellist wanting to > get more chordal and > guitar-like. It aint cheap by guitar standards but > it=E2=80=99s a bargain by > classical cello standards. Small portable and fits in one > of those cool coffin > cases. The proprietary pickups sound wonderful and can > handle any kind of > volume or signal processing without feedback issues. I got > to hear it when Erdem > first got it and I was floored by the sound. > =20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 > =C2=A0bill >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > From: Todd Matthews > [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com]=20 >=20 > Sent: Monday, > May 18, 2009 4:16 PM >=20 > To:=20 > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Subject: Re: > millennia preamp - OT=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 > Hey Zoe,=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I think he is referring to the Guitar > viols by=C2=A0Jonathan Wilson. He > makes a cello model that is actually tuned like like a 5 > string bass but it is > an octave higher outting it in the 'cello > range'=C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://www.togamanguitars.com/downloads/index.php >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Scroll to the bottom and there is a > video of him playing his guitar > cello model. It sounds pretty awesome.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Todd Matthews=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe > Keating=20 > > wrote:=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > (what is a cello > guitar?)=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem > Helvacioglu wrote:=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > hey, >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > so > sorry that this is > off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1 micpreamp > ( with high > impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the greatest, > most transparent > preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my new cello > guitar came to life. it > was as though i became a cellist :)=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > if > you get chance, > please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it seems that > it will work great > with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > thanks > and best.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Erdem > Helvacioglu >=20 > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com >=20 > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu >=20 > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >=20 > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant > Records: >=20 > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > "wounded > breath > album will open you up to new experiences and=C2=A0 >=20 > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to > you." >=20 > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > "wounded > breath > is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." >=20 > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 10:44:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3D7C3BE7E; Tue, 19 May 2009 10:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001c01c9d86e$d8635340$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <843985.74657.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: millennia preamp - OT Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:44:54 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C9D887.FD7E30A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:44:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C9D887.FD7E30A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, i am using the electric guitar naked spartan version. that is the = cheapest model without any midi. i have uploaded a folder that contains 4 audio files with the violguitar = with 4 different preamp setting. the millennia stt-1 solid state, = millennia stt-1 tube, tl audio vp1 tube preamp, joemeek vc6q preamp. = check out the transparency on the millennia stt-1! https://download.yousendit.com/U0d4M25DVnNiR0pMWEE9PQ bear in mind that i can not play this instrument well at all! :) i = especially tried some extended techniques and lots of harmonics to hear = the transparency on the preamps. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: L.Angulo=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com ; billwalker@baymoon.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:40 AM Subject: RE: millennia preamp - OT this does look amazing!i take it Erdem is using the electric model? models with midi wow but i wonder about the tracking! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- William Walker schrieb am Mo, 18.5.2009: > Von: William Walker > Betreff: RE: millennia preamp - OT > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 18. Mai 2009, 20:27 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Yep > that=E2=80=99s correct, they sound > amazing BTW. A truly unique instrument that has a curved > fretted fingerboard > and is meant to be bowed, the sound is very warm and woody, > and dare I say > cello-like in timbre. Its an ideal instrument for a > guitarist wanting to get in > to the world of bowed instruments, or a cellist wanting to > get more chordal and > guitar-like. It aint cheap by guitar standards but > it=E2=80=99s a bargain by > classical cello standards. Small portable and fits in one > of those cool coffin > cases. The proprietary pickups sound wonderful and can > handle any kind of > volume or signal processing without feedback issues. I got > to hear it when Erdem > first got it and I was floored by the sound. > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > bill >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > From: Todd Matthews > [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com]=20 >=20 > Sent: Monday, > May 18, 2009 4:16 PM >=20 > To:=20 > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Subject: Re: > millennia preamp - OT=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Hey Zoe,=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I think he is referring to the Guitar > viols by Jonathan Wilson. He > makes a cello model that is actually tuned like like a 5 > string bass but it is > an octave higher outting it in the 'cello > range'=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://www.togamanguitars.com/downloads/index.php >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Scroll to the bottom and there is a > video of him playing his guitar > cello model. It sounds pretty awesome.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Todd Matthews=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe > Keating=20 > > wrote:=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > (what is a cello > guitar?)=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem > Helvacioglu wrote:=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > hey, >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > so > sorry that this is > off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1 micpreamp > ( with high > impedance instrument input. ) wow! this is the greatest, > most transparent > preamp that i have ever heard. incredible. my new cello > guitar came to life. it > was as though i became a cellist :)=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > if > you get chance, > please do yourself a favor and try this unit. it seems that > it will work great > with guitar, bass, vocals, drums etc.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > thanks > and best.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Erdem > Helvacioglu >=20 > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com >=20 > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu >=20 > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >=20 > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant > Records: >=20 > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > "wounded > breath > album will open you up to new experiences and=20 >=20 > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to > you." >=20 > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > "wounded > breath > is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." >=20 > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C9D887.FD7E30A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
hey,
 
i am using the electric guitar naked spartan version. that is the = cheapest=20 model without any midi.
 
i have uploaded a folder that contains 4 audio files with the = violguitar=20 with 4 different preamp setting. the millennia stt-1 solid state, = millennia=20 stt-1 tube, tl audio vp1 tube preamp, joemeek vc6q preamp. check out the = transparency on the millennia stt-1!
 
https://do= wnload.yousendit.com/U0d4M25DVnNiR0pMWEE9PQ
 
bear in mind that i can not play this instrument well at all! :) i=20 especially tried some extended techniques and lots of harmonics to hear = the=20 transparency on the preamps.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
 
"wounded breath album will open you up = to new=20 experiences and
allow you to explore worlds previously closed to=20 you."
Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
 
"wounded breath is an outstanding = acousmatic=20 record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 L.Angulo=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20 ; billwalker@baymoon.com =
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 = 6:40 AM
Subject: RE: millennia preamp - = OT


this does look amazing!i take it Erdem is using the = electric model?
models with midi wow but i wonder about the=20 tracking!
Luis


www.myspace.com/luisanguloc= om


---=20 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> = schrieb am=20 Mo, 18.5.2009:

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= >=20 Betreff: RE: millennia preamp - OT
> An: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
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> = cases. The=20 proprietary pickups sound wonderful and can
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> Subject: Re:
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> viols by Jonathan Wilson. = He
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> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe
> Keating
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> On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem
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> sorry = that=20 this is
> off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1=20 micpreamp
> ( with high
> impedance instrument input. ) = wow! this=20 is the greatest,
> most transparent
> preamp that i have = ever=20 heard. incredible. my new cello
> guitar came to life. = it
> was as=20 though i became a cellist :)
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>=20 if
> you get chance,
> please do yourself a favor and try = this=20 unit. it seems that
> it will work great
> with guitar, = bass,=20 vocals, drums etc.
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>=20 and best.
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> Erdem
>=20 Helvacioglu
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> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
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> www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
>=20
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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> = "Wounded=20 Breath" album is out now on Aucourant
> Records:
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> you."
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>=20 Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
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> Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
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Interesting! As far as I can tell behind the 192 kbps mp3 curtain the Milennia tube mode sounds best (to my taste). I can't tell though if it's the most transparent sounding unit, since I don't know the source sound to compare it to. For this particular instrument it seems more adequate to look for a nice musical coloring of the sound than transparency in the recording gear. It's great that you have access to that many mic pre amps so you can use them on parallel tracks and avoid a summed coloring of the general mix, if layering lots of parts by multi tracking. 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= --_3086ec76-cc46-4dda-b0ed-739416d20b18_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 13:52:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5198B3BE80; Tue, 19 May 2009 13:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242741163; bh=mxGoZDap+5njl5kVhYqa1/vU8pv5eeXxM76XWIBgYKM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PYnPxGChuh85Nsk4noTlX+K9a0bfBOdvR68U/qTICfN7rbnTIS9c+TVE8DOFdlP0CPmoKEXvrQ2wLaOXvL/m41Y5CToVgk6IYvAZYbq0BggCMEBKXhyvVhH7qAyNQANninvqDTbTKLcQwzNmBPMtG1PK1LWuNlLjtddIQ75tIag= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5pX+AcHrrAjqWIBY194f1tIu1N+koK9XqsjnB80ATZ4oF4pdc4MtWdh7jkwrxcj8QaOiDSqKwwnz4C4Re1r/oh2YY1L1/vyM7uK12jfz0vN1m2P5XIRoND84FQv9ACzzlEE6mLapNTdcFGJ+q2r++H9X7xyuefuzuvieZ8oAjJ8=; Message-ID: <915884.97855.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qZYTqL4VM1k6Sp7u2PkW1sv4npEAIKxMHLeAGBOfvgRcXgp8SW2iEF.EOdyB6ieFIGRkQ7S2IVp8zOfymfo5wXmzuwzMD__Vepa6prEBsmHX06gXOtMt.y4YiM2THFc7gMghqh7JsJ6QltuaytxPGuZHMzbUcxrRxITIzmbRgJ8xhmGPGTzK0CKmgS4v3tuIitmrka7fzwGxSAz30vwJsV8UqgQCP9u5IbZFrcFZ0Uc0qJuogZR4QVbvXTauph0tnRL9BiZo__PG.VPUka8c_wKJ5e9h32jA76XFwsF90W869ImusWq..30cftNkld.jWzODeUEvKq4udPBCs8CTGQD7gAWwHvvxO5ailJSQCsd0h0b2 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 06:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1653566969-1242741163=:97855" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:52:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-1653566969-1242741163=:97855 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child molesters= as well? --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM Agreed.=A0 I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it. > IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the > execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much > pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up > to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow > clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's > staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and > blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. > -- > Miko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > > =0A=0A=0A --0-1653566969-1242741163=:97855 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does that philosophical outlook apply to seri= al killers and child molesters as well?

--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark= Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM

Agreed.  I'm always impressed by people who fin= d a niche and go for it.


> IMO this guy has clearly invested = considerable time and effort in the
> execution of a concept that hol= ds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much
> pulls everything off seamles= sly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up
> to me, but it would be pre= sumptuous to infer that he's somehow
> clueless. We all face choices = as to how we move forward daily and he's
> staked his claim. He may i= n fact be more grounded, committed and
> blissfully engaged than many= of us here. Food for thought.
> --
> Miko Biffle
> Biffoz@Gmail.com
> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
>
>

<= /DIV>

=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1653566969-1242741163=:97855-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 15:12:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7C4B3BE79; Tue, 19 May 2009 15:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=VtO2/MoF0ou8Otjn6y5dXdDEKE2JZIiiw5gdgvGP1ns=; b=ueF96eiNm1h/ASMXSERW6R1q9JOeL2u4xYfidHJOEfe47rPnArYhydWwR7weMsEe9r 69R8cftbepyNPETIDL1oLc/DgRGSKD9wfTfR/v1R4umO6nKf3bLYcRCDetyTngaSTZYt OZD00RyT//kGwMZwl/ox4V26zUtpKqU3Q/ESY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=L9dIr+9+CpKQMyg5pxD0158H5d+6m+lo+XVqkf3a4omiDuMIwjUlYxrPbZcYr7oy6s Z/q+yWPQDkJf6fTWtLle2RHVI2aN8HqGliQc0qyGw3KTYWSPMjWxQvy8yb7vQCdg41pS pM3uiAUtP3V+OoZszreb1ZG5Wnj288nFBQfz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:12:01 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: New material out ... From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221504915737eb8e046a4555d6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:12:02 +0000 (UTC) --00221504915737eb8e046a4555d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just unleashed this morning; some looping content from me (I used a lot of percussion loops) in my usual "usr/sbin" incarnation ... I don't usually do "dance" music, so it's a bit of a shift: http://www.archive.org/details/ambientcollective_nucleolus Best, Dennis -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --00221504915737eb8e046a4555d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just unleashed this morning; some looping content from me (I used a lot of = percussion loops) in my usual "usr/sbin" incarnation ... I don= 9;t usually do "dance" music, so it's a bit of a shift:

http://www.archive.org/details/ambientcollective_nucleolu= s

Best,

Dennis

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http://myspace.com/usrsbin
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--00221504915737eb8e046a4555d6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 16:24:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 076453BE7F; Tue, 19 May 2009 16:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 19 May 2009 16:24:25 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242749865; bh=Hw0fW++tXa8ofnLbaQXee9qHYxNeBfrYJ9xlWxg5jTE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c2DZE6zz66qldugWVHn8r73xNbs5Rw8yg9/xHJI4opoJXC0Fds4W99lQa2epivDIOtFmM6Ll+xQeWwFKSMC1Oqk2fkIij0SWgNVnxxULxgRbl0mwsXeX/tJgh05Rs325IeFTSLIxDmhnVFrM3/qe0nvMnz7T9LZdYbQUo3F1HLU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lS8EQ8SzCz1GKtNsKpLgjTDdTMqlO4SB1giZicyzXzHR1NhEtPwIb03F/cuwBeTWrqvSq3p6swuDXZtcDmu2cQB/or7gI29i2OScNM61e6bLErlvmnwe+e48FeEuNEmoG7CPoe3AwSi3KeRTwN6LBZm9RHLIcFx+t8ueFNEBAaY=; Message-ID: <397729.95881.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: N8Rnpo4VM1kRogZdyWK9uiPftG.eZOPWEz0YSIy7LOqFHjHGjDiTe8hNWMhsySukE07DHdiGi5a8KxSq09XG8899UacTCob445aowobxyGNVuC24m23_exkGjCqmbewaNgN7_fHLhrPrp1WiFr7KQ010wIUDo_hM2F069mR5g7Gyirq6br1aRHaEEO8ux8unba2TdwgsHYpCYveIcCcu5EHlFQqggQapl1PIBjy.rfozQar8PW99OicSW_uo2wG76qKZMbShRYKNMZ0cz7gqpTVI_6dLB5XQo8u5APJ9k6qQT_HWmccC3xiMHZeBdpzDhvtAPEXmlQ8gGzJ2guaetTlWncPmxhf7 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-722934435-1242749864=:95881" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:24:25 +0000 (UTC) --0-722934435-1242749864=:95881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My God! After a few minutes of listening, I felt like throwing a rotten tom= ato at that fucker. --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:39 PM Agreed.=A0 I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it. > IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the > execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much > pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up > to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow > clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's > staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and > blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. > -- > Miko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > > =0A=0A=0A --0-722934435-1242749864=:95881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My God! After a few minutes of listening, I f= elt like throwing a rotten tomato at that fucker.

--- On Mon, 5/1= 8/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:39 PM

Agreed.  I'm always impressed by people who fin= d a niche and go for it.


> IMO this guy has clearly invested = considerable time and effort in the
> execution of a concept that hol= ds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much
> pulls everything off seamles= sly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up
> to me, but it would be pre= sumptuous to infer that he's somehow
> clueless. We all face choices = as to how we move forward daily and he's
> staked his claim. He may i= n fact be more grounded, committed and
> blissfully engaged than many= of us here. Food for thought.
> --
> Miko Biffle
> Biffoz@Gmail.com
> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
&= gt; "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
>
>

<= /DIV>

=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-722934435-1242749864=:95881-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 16:40:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E70513BE79; Tue, 19 May 2009 16:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jSHyqbjP2sEZVwGizEIGevUcQl0JWOYVgBByB8lsVl0=; b=xbjEEOmkdFMi/pNmQ8RwVmyRB6Rafcm+TDIyt7VPnSzQVuZscMd9O8spqOF35gzrBw Lhn5R3eIsq4tWWLEGLBSIbHxa9xe7iY7IJcfmYJnn3gUwxCsT63T92jsjxMljl1nVIkz 1RZMCVotqv39EBnF+JO5R0tLMj0AIy7b92pTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ncRJR/sGZg60RZaMS3xUCHFXSATWwXSvGMTbv+/Cds1J/V4H/1cV8hnEAAa0fVixLK Kh7Qj52mhmi4uoabtP43H4YHkBELkHDGMWqn/X2ECMQ+5/Kr9Zi0ryOlIyFFvCBLdsr4 v5rcpq+ACfYRVTP3/G+CrToa3MU+PjYdilhoo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <397729.95881.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <397729.95881.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:40:41 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905190940j662664f4r4ce813acc5d8cdff@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:40:41 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Elmer Fuddski wrote: > impressed by people who find a niche and go for it. But this guy is simply drawing on some English folk music, as far as I can tell? Or are you people talking about the outfit of him and his guitars? David Bowie has used a lot weirder outfits back in the days. And Bono uses the same shades indoors - year after year - no matter the weather out there. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 16:44:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FB163BE85; Tue, 19 May 2009 16:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aPu7c8qlLiyYTEG1s5VlDV3vI8JyKX5JQjAjf5wG63U=; b=ZNMOpORXYe7pWpXnlnF0cOdlUMeLnDBaZwlkcsl4OiwTs+pEBz0yHSOF+h+XMWzkCO G+Lp1UqBN8uBOB9zKkKRA4QjgG9F/inz82gpwZH3DM6mX9odyyDYku+j+Lk4F0lTKCnB kwzk2LimgGsaCd7bYIHarZS8YkyjN/c2ZxE8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kXqUTZX/kRA59rBQtLBj0Q3za2tysLSTifI5KZhqwHyGpgH6vnHLGN349hwaXFiQhN uGkZpWOCdAMKVhJVidy/j226uQRNiiGs0jf/+tnmVqsz7OhNEHRiJ+wyeghV/9woBZtp NhtfryBlGZq6l+3HcJBClG4fq8HWtpEqbv5QI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905190940j662664f4r4ce813acc5d8cdff@mail.gmail.com> References: <397729.95881.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0905190940j662664f4r4ce813acc5d8cdff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:44:23 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750905190944ybe686a2vf69199dd950f8878@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163631094f8e7275046a469fc4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:44:26 +0000 (UTC) --00163631094f8e7275046a469fc4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unless you're roy orbison, you should be punched in the face for wearing sunglasses inside. - jim --00163631094f8e7275046a469fc4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unless you're roy orbison, you should be punched in the face for wearing sunglasses inside.

- jim
--00163631094f8e7275046a469fc4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 17:07:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E573A3BE84; Tue, 19 May 2009 17:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=FIYzmAvM6vCKmQ+tTz2b6xFTTJt1zyBcUZHn6OpspbA=; b=s8dFh5p5o67YjWKxkdFn6tglQRYHFrcG2H+8dhTU1iE0Oa5qxKIf/H7jV+6KvlQtCX 2qw5Gwq3LhtbMTnyHzpI6p/l05rb8F0Z/Foi2xY9t8DlR+EuV685voSFbU5deiPtElhD mqbazfFPR/nyQIbJ3adI9Iq1FI4W5bnpAq7JQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=Ah+fUDkStzKLwagGuC8otTCzIRvo7B3XfSSL2iFdT4fR5G74hvdg2zP6eYtUa9FgUG iPr7eDiHW9rdhrz9MNwDu573BSdOUwqpvv0Chy9xDwE0NQJvNeAO3iOgmliB/g37sog6 SSVpy5wQV8qYbiXDrrerS3fxZcYKo1FjkRASg= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-305132142 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: OT: new album Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:07:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:07:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-305132142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Looperistas I just released a new album on CD Baby: Reagent - http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 Synth, guitar, thumb piano improvisations in various aggregations. Lots of loops used simply as ostinato and drum machines used as drones. BobC http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-2-305132142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings = Looperistas

= --Apple-Mail-2-305132142-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 17:35:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A10DA3BE88; Tue, 19 May 2009 17:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tBwQfiqZhCocB3eCBqdeOmOIJT2oQaGe6zOZYFI73/M=; b=JFLTDs3+7XqeEecWBROnrYhjZ61e8QLq/shibUJATPMVS4l1vWKmlLpjNImjucTvkk BIrnhx0+vlMWhg0YdvPl7a9+GfXsJyqvadSQ59I760PolAwvEs2XpaygpFneXAPhlsVs hzHYyhEvIN4tBT/RAliDKaRaQAJx2zTeJb7Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ac6xzLlZr8+IvdGFnouTQY+s0MlNXvizA/VvIcTMUhnKnjTf0FCEgZw8ni3DNjDVMC LqSwayyVn3RGIBzzbrlBdATZV/T4HlSgcn5kI7lm6aOYrakEHIrbKzR7S1vf9HsydxT+ Dp4QrKCMtaMWu9dgJVf8t/h1hP6RyB0itRp2M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <915884.97855.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <915884.97855.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:35:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:35:46 +0000 (UTC) We have a winner! The moment someone brings up serial killers in a discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers, they automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare themselves an ass hole. Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an idiot? To answer you, no, it does not. It also does not apply to the stupid, which is the group I will forever identify you with. Artistic expression is a matter of taste. Stupid, well that's universal. You are stupid. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child moleste= rs > as well? > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM > > Agreed.=A0 I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it. > > >> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the >> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much >> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up >> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow >> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's >> staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and >> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. >> -- >> Miko Biffle >> Biffoz@Gmail.com >> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com >> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 18:15:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 189563BE87; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=CgEBQqmyR4hS6B1PTFQcyuv2g42tkhirer7tJWWmzeWAMe8g/gHP3UDAGLf1u21t; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <28834072.1242756933364.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:15:33 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd480d92cbe5bab07fafff85d0de5af8883b773bb16c9ad91485350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:15:34 +0000 (UTC) gosh...so many rules :-) -----Original Message----- >From: james fowler >Sent: May 19, 2009 9:44 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > >unless you're roy orbison, you should be punched in the face for wearing >sunglasses inside. > >- jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 18:17:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3E9A3BE99; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=U8GXSAWbWypSDVbnq/syHoLrbGv06joko+FQOE/1kWY=; b=RGUs1fVjsthxC6xyabFWqDuyyXGAxLuBEEQkL+GTj9v0A3l8k59nLkH8HDX+VuSuwI Ixs8rdryhBOdamb/spHrxgWiag5yGI9bXdMGBTkG3F+n6OwWGFSRvyIhVufb2j+ltzYK LHxbuNT3ZZwQmxCXO3Q7z3jbnCopQW+gLtY/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aNFrV7sl61+lDFGBtiCCNh7fNdBs9DsIBcY+I/t5hODHDiWEAlHgVbnhbSffL1vZML 3Uj79oulu7TQiOxXbHmtQFXfA3Vwfd2YFIhIG9y1hSiPSMX6rqAOlrnMZQNIIMGETJSV fgtAOvc19DV+STrNT8098rcyKw3HhPyfaAF8Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <915884.97855.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:17:11 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90905191117m179855a1me7adc1bda5136c42@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d672065cbae046a47eb45 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:17:12 +0000 (UTC) --0015175d672065cbae046a47eb45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>The moment someone brings up serial killers in a >>discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers Wasn't that a (bad) joke? well doesn't matter, could you all stop it with the name calling and unnecessarily mean criticism... join a forum or something, just keep that shit out of my inbox, please! I'm usually glad to read this list's posts as I find them both insighful and useful, but this thread as revealed an ugly underbelly that makes me want to unsubscribe... Sylvain On 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > We have a winner! The moment someone brings up serial killers in a > discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers, they > automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare themselves an > ass hole. Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an idiot? > > To answer you, no, it does not. It also does not apply to the stupid, > which is the group I will forever identify you with. Artistic > expression is a matter of taste. Stupid, well that's universal. You > are stupid. > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards > wrote: > > Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child > molesters > > as well? > > > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > > > From: Mark Sottilaro > > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM > > > > Agreed. I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it. > > > > > >> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the > >> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much > >> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up > >> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow > >> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's > >> staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and > >> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. > >> -- > >> Miko Biffle > >> Biffoz@Gmail.com > >> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > >> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --0015175d672065cbae046a47eb45 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>The moment someone brings up serial killers in a
>>di= scussion that has nothing to do with serial killers
=A0
Wasn't that a (bad) joke?=A0 well doesn't matter, could you al= l stop it with the name calling and unnecessarily mean criticism...=A0 join= a forum or something, just keep that shit out of my inbox, please!=A0 I= 9;m usually glad to read this list's posts as I find them both insighfu= l and useful, but this thread as revealed an ugly underbelly that makes me = want to unsubscribe...
=A0
Sylvain


=A0
On 5/19/09, = Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossi= ng@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a winner!=A0=A0The momen= t someone brings up serial killers in a
discussion that has nothing to d= o with serial killers, they
automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare themselves an
ass= hole.=A0=A0Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an idiot?
To answer you, no, it does not.=A0=A0It also does not apply to the stu= pid,
which is the group I will forever identify you with.=A0=A0Artistic
expre= ssion is a matter of taste.=A0=A0Stupid, well that's universal.=A0=A0Yo= u
are stupid.

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards
&= lt;paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.c= om> wrote:
> Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child mole= sters
> as well?
>
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro = <zerocrossing@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
>
> From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy<= br>> To: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM
>
> Agreed.=A0=A0I= 9;m always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it.
>
&= gt;
>> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and eff= ort in the
>> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty m= uch
>> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to b= e a fan is up
>> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that= he's somehow
>> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and = he's
>> staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, com= mitted and
>> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for th= ought.
>> --
>> Miko Biffle
>> Biffoz@Gmail.com
>>= ; MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
>> "Running scared from all the u= sual distractions!"
>>
>>
>
>
>

--0015175d672065cbae046a47eb45-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 18:31:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D21E3BEA9; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242757902; bh=rPB0XtthQh4eM5fyZy+1Iqe0P+vHRRagGZqns4++eKI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bOeEF8PAymthgnkm4nEUklLEP92OvY0SAbndDmnVMRt3eRQRqlbMxPmM+TMQu2yXINToPSr7WbzH6fZHwxDMToIaUAI5c/9r+Vzb8w0lQ0JZgVMOn37pTk/bAyJTbP8W5h0AWCaBM5EeQrR8IuU4KtQtFEb0k/+mpm7Scv1jxpc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3HBhC+XjYKsgOJ9cLwk6RidwhhfH4hGDmTv65we5aPcnsBzNThc+vAu8aX044zE7jM53FU84YJ/4AGTtQ2Cidez2IwXq5kUDCKUHdvhF7ElURc8NjaQYUTwec+Z/ExMjkoygt4bLej4e3mIAX9q4iFzoM8GQ+KI9kpK4tjoYA+k=; Message-ID: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bLVCR3QVM1lEPcO8r6hHLMxuBlKeBqctD2xKNYrkDcLNzYjuO7sIvsrQ6qDxL_NOGPfj9fGuAUzdoQw7ie63eSSMQ_CANtNoAy5DkdyWXIApbEEq5ys9DV_3ZP2vGJ9a9kRl2JPIKQDrP8vebgNuA.FhRoXULqjkArafKo06jL49xYnSFj0jP6Ko7guBA2mhStxw5zoSYhgm7N1udfT9qR3a8bKaArvXFugzNmYpgjqy4jI.boatWgazA77byEgxT.0SHbzXXMaXVETBK85pxyBfFSF2uiQJllmRhBYzvPCJ_zqo5NHw7h_szmMFvFlHdiqRpt5z1BbTkkv6FNp6INmgLaE.SbUKeQRqdPu00hIymsqN X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:31:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-780373293-1242757902=:96981" Resent-Message-ID: <_aToeB.A.1sC.PsvEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:31:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-780373293-1242757902=:96981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why don't you shove a four foot long extruded gnochi up your asshole, putz? =A0 I think YOU'VE found a niche on this board: being a recalcitrant, close-min= ded dickwad who likes to try to shout down folks. You're one=A0of the reaso= ns this board sucks so much (and a couple of others). It is really pathetic= and has been so for many years. The only thing this board is known for now= days is horrible music and long, boring threads about how to invoke some us= eless feature on a piece of hardware or software.=20 =A0 =A0 --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 1:35 PM We have a winner!=A0 The moment someone brings up serial killers in a discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers, they automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare themselves an ass hole.=A0 Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an idiot? To answer you, no, it does not.=A0 It also does not apply to the stupid, which is the group I will forever identify you with.=A0 Artistic expression is a matter of taste.=A0 Stupid, well that's universal.=A0 You are stupid. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child moleste= rs > as well? > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM > > Agreed.=A0 I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it. > > >> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the >> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much >> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up >> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow >> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's >> staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and >> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. >> -- >> Miko Biffle >> Biffoz@Gmail.com >> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com >> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" >> >> > > > =0A=0A=0A --0-780373293-1242757902=:96981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =
Why don't you shove a four foot long ext= ruded gnochi up your asshole, putz?
 
I think YOU'VE found a niche on this board: being a recalcitrant, clos= e-minded dickwad who likes to try to shout down folks. You're one of t= he reasons this board sucks so much (and a couple of others). It is really = pathetic and has been so for many years. The only thing this board is known= for nowdays is horrible music and long, boring threads about how to invoke= some useless feature on a piece of hardware or software.
 
 

--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.c= om> wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 1:35 PM

We have a winner!  The moment someone brings up= serial killers in a
discussion that has nothing to do with serial kille= rs, they
automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare themselv= es an
ass hole.  Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an = idiot?

To answer you, no, it does not.  It also does not apply = to the stupid,
which is the group I will forever identify you with. = ; Artistic
expression is a matter of taste.  Stupid, well that's un= iversal.  You
are stupid.

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, P= aul Richards
<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Does that philosoph= ical outlook apply to serial killers and child molesters
> as well?>
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
>
> From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
> Subject: = Re: Weird Looping Guy
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= BR>> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM
>
> Agreed.  = I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it.
>
&= gt;
>> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and eff= ort in the
>> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, a= nd he pretty much
>> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm = going to be a fan is up
>> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that = he's somehow
>> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move fo= rward daily and he's
>> staked his claim. He may in fact be more g= rounded, committed and
>> blissfully engaged than many of us here.= Food for thought.
>> --
>> Miko Biffle
>> Biffoz@Gmail.com
>> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com<= /A>
>> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
>&g= t;
>>
>
>
>


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 18:46:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D94D3BE90; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=59bCIW0UqsVYrIJM3X4sRgnPhUIi/No00Iz9oglouTQ=; b=aTFXPhw6RPD/2QrQonw5tVPhU+AlucCviRCB9dxTPR0ITp5lmwbeM0grydZf8PfVvh TAW9eU+Zt0rdMbeS3Ev3gy0FVGRfsunnhU93JeB5fbh777vZVhDKcjv8ujhNdcHz8hTG XKZh3B7tAzijrWEm0wCspdU7xo6q0tj3fP8EY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nQ0oeO+uyq4xWKUr0IUecm+ddCX3fZ+5uy7lw31kdQRX+9BKV5mztoqX6wirukxq3s borEFmlW1dcIhnzj5iSZNNNqKTwvGwaApSaWVHR3DTsRXiiTfash16YzyE5KxWXVb03U sSuXjJi6qM0RcUNp3L+HEgMqf88RqgQ0Q1Uwc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:46:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Byron Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d348a0e3d336046a4855a5 Resent-Message-ID: <0LtxXB.A.MZD.j6vEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:46:59 +0000 (UTC) --001636d348a0e3d336046a4855a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "The only thing this board is known for nowdays is horrible music and long, boring threads about how to invoke some useless feature on a piece of hardware or software." shit...count me in, sounds grand. :)..... I say as i twiddle yet another knob in ableton overcome with the beauty of sound s it loops back at me endlessly awaiting my manipulation. Im all into uselessness! On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Why don't you shove a four foot long extruded gnochi up your asshole, putz? > > I think YOU'VE found a niche on this board: being a recalcitrant, > close-minded dickwad who likes to try to shout down folks. You're one of the > reasons this board sucks so much (and a couple of others). It is really > pathetic and has been so for many years. The only thing this board is known > for nowdays is horrible music and long, boring threads about how to invoke > some useless feature on a piece of hardware or software. > > > > --- On *Tue, 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro * wrote: > > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 1:35 PM > > > We have a winner! The moment someone brings up serial killers in a > discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers, they > automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare themselves an > ass hole. Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an idiot? > > To answer you, no, it does not. It also does not apply to the stupid, > which is the group I will forever identify you with. Artistic > expression is a matter of taste. Stupid, well that's universal. You > are stupid. > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards > > > wrote: > > Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child > molesters > > as well? > > > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro > > wrote: > > > > From: Mark Sottilaro > > > > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM > > > > Agreed. I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it. > > > > > >> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the > >> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much > >> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up > >> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow > >> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's > >> staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and > >> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. > >> -- > >> Miko Biffle > >> Biffoz@Gmail.com > >> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > >> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > --001636d348a0e3d336046a4855a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "The only thing this board is known for nowdays is horrible music and = long, boring threads about how to invoke some useless feature on a piece of= hardware or software."

shit...count me in, sounds = grand. :)..... I say as i twiddle yet another knob in ableton overcome with= the beauty of sound s it loops back at me endlessly awaiting my manipulati= on. Im all into uselessness!


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at = 8:31 PM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why don't you shove a four foot = long extruded gnochi up your asshole, putz?
=A0
I think YOU'VE found a niche on this board: being a recalcitrant, = close-minded dickwad who likes to try to shout down folks. You're one= =A0of the reasons this board sucks so much (and a couple of others). It is = really pathetic and has been so for many years. The only thing this board i= s known for nowdays is horrible music and long, boring threads about how to= invoke some useless feature on a piece of hardware or software.
=A0
=A0

--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com><= /b> wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.c= om>
Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 1:35 PM


We have a winner!=A0 The moment someone brings up serial killers in a<= br>discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers, they
automatic= ally lose any credibility and defacto declare themselves an
ass hole.=A0= Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an idiot?

To answer you, no, it does not.=A0 It also does not apply to the stupid= ,
which is the group I will forever identify you with.=A0 Artistic
ex= pression is a matter of taste.=A0 Stupid, well that's universal.=A0 You=
are stupid.

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards
<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
= > Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child mole= sters
> as well?
>
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> = From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, M= ay 18, 2009, 11:39 PM
>
> Agreed.=A0 I'm always impressed by people who find a niche= and go for it.
>
>
>> IMO this guy has clearly invest= ed considerable time and effort in the
>> execution of a concept t= hat holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much
>> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up
>> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that = he's somehow
>> clueless. We all face choices as to how we mov= e forward daily and he's
>> staked his claim. He may in fact b= e more grounded, committed and
>> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought.
>= > --
>> Miko Biffle
>> Biffoz@Gmai= l.com
>> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
>= > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
>>= ;
>>
>
>
>



--001636d348a0e3d336046a4855a5-- From anonymous@ks357324.kimsufi.com Tue May 19 18:48:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ks357324.kimsufi.com (ks357324.kimsufi.com [91.121.147.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7AD3BE8C for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13040 invoked by uid 1006); 19 May 2009 11:05:40 -0000 Date: 19 May 2009 11:05:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20090519110540.13039.qmail@ks357324.kimsufi.com> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: YOUR US$6.5 MILLION IN ELECTRONIC ATM CREDIT CARD! From: SENATOR.JIBRIL AMINU Reply-To: mr.tundelemo96@live.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. NATIONAL HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY INTERNATIONAL CRED SETTLEMENT FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA OFFICEWEB:(www.nassnig.org) ATTN: BENEFICIARY, WITH REFERENCE TO THE NEW FEDERAL GOVERNMENT POLICY TOWARDS THE RECONCILIATION AND IMMEDIATE PAYMENT OF ALL OVERDUE DEBTS OWED BY THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TO HER FOREIGN INVESTORS BE OFFICIALLY INFORMED THAT WE HAVE VERIFIED YOUR PAYMENT FILE AND HAVE CONSEQUENTLY FIND OUT WHY YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE PAYMENT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DEALING WITH IMPOSTORS IN VARIOUS COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA,THEREBY BEING FRUSTRATED BY SEVERAL EXTORTION OF ILLEGITIMATE FEES AND CHARGES. SECONDLY, WE HAVE BEEN DULY INFORMED BY THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE THAT A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO EFFECT THE TRANSFER OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS TO A STRANGE ACCOUNT IN CANADA.THE NEW BENEFICIARY IS PURPORTED WAS CLAIMING TO BE YOUR COUSIN. HIS DETAILS ARE LISTED BELOW: MR. 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THE SERIOUSNESS OF CORRUPTION AMONGST THE OFFICIALS OF MOST COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA IS AT ITS CLIMAX, HENCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA, ALHAJI UMARU YARA'DUA (GCFR) IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DELEGATED OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED NATIONS HAS MANDATED THE NIGERIA APEX BANK "CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA" TO PAY A PART PAYMENT OF US$6.5 MILLION IN FAVOR OF FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09, FROM YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE CONTRACT FUNDS. THE CBN WILL SEND YOU AN ATM DIGITAL CARD WHICH YOU WILL USE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MONEY IN ANY ATM MACHINE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD. SO IF YOU WILL LIKE TO RECEIVE YOUR FUNDS VIA THIS CONVENIENT AND SECURED WAY, THEN KINDLY CONTACT THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR (CBN), FINANCIAL SECTOR FOR IMMEDIATE PAYMENT. QUOTE FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09 DURING CONTACT. CONTACT DETAILS: Mr.Tunde Lemo DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (CBN) TEL: +2348059281980 EMAIL:mr.tundelemo96@yahoo.com HOWEVER, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN RE-ORGANIZING THESE SYSTEMS, AND EQUALLY THE INCONVENIENCES THIS DELAY MIGHT HAVE CAUSED YOU AND YOUR COMPANY IN THE VERY RECENT TIMES. OUR VISION IS TO ENCOURAGE FOREIGN INVESTORS BY CREATING SUITABLE AND ENABLING ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTMENT WITHIN THE SHORES OF AFRICA GENERALLY. MORE IMPORTANTLY,DO COMPLETE AND SEND THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION TO CONFIRM AND UPDATE YOUR RECORDS TO FACILITATE YOUR PAYMENT. 1) CONFIRM YOUR FULL NAME. 2) CONFIRM YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS. 3) CONFIRM YOUR PHONE, FAX AND MOBILE PHONE NUMBERS. 4) CONFIRM YOUR PROFESSION, AGE & MARITAL STATUS. 5) CONFIRM NATIONALITY. (THE ABOVE INFORMATIONS ARE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONVINCE) YOU ARE WARNED, IN YOUR OWN INTEREST; STOP FURTHER COMMUNICATION WITH ANY INSTITUTION, OFFICES OR PERSONS CLAIMING TO HAVE RELEVANCE TO THE PAYMENT OF YOUR OVERDUE FUNDS OUT-SIDE THE CBN. NOTE: TO AVOID MISAPPROPRIATION AND IMPERSONATION, YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN A CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09. YOU MUST INDICATE YOUR CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09 WHEN CONTACTING THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE, CBN. CONGRATULATIONS!! BEST REGARDS, SENATOR. JIBRIL AMINU, CHAIRMAN SENATE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA. From anonymous@ks357324.kimsufi.com Tue May 19 18:48:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ks357324.kimsufi.com (ks357324.kimsufi.com [91.121.147.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34983BE92 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13062 invoked by uid 1006); 19 May 2009 11:05:53 -0000 Date: 19 May 2009 11:05:53 -0000 Message-ID: <20090519110553.13061.qmail@ks357324.kimsufi.com> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: YOUR US$6.5 MILLION IN ELECTRONIC ATM CREDIT CARD! From: SENATOR.JIBRIL AMINU Reply-To: mr.tundelemo96@live.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. NATIONAL HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY INTERNATIONAL CRED SETTLEMENT FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA OFFICEWEB:(www.nassnig.org) ATTN: BENEFICIARY, WITH REFERENCE TO THE NEW FEDERAL GOVERNMENT POLICY TOWARDS THE RECONCILIATION AND IMMEDIATE PAYMENT OF ALL OVERDUE DEBTS OWED BY THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TO HER FOREIGN INVESTORS BE OFFICIALLY INFORMED THAT WE HAVE VERIFIED YOUR PAYMENT FILE AND HAVE CONSEQUENTLY FIND OUT WHY YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE PAYMENT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DEALING WITH IMPOSTORS IN VARIOUS COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA,THEREBY BEING FRUSTRATED BY SEVERAL EXTORTION OF ILLEGITIMATE FEES AND CHARGES. SECONDLY, WE HAVE BEEN DULY INFORMED BY THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE THAT A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO EFFECT THE TRANSFER OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS TO A STRANGE ACCOUNT IN CANADA.THE NEW BENEFICIARY IS PURPORTED WAS CLAIMING TO BE YOUR COUSIN. HIS DETAILS ARE LISTED BELOW: MR. ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON ADD: 425 VELDE STREET, CREVE CEOUR, IL 61610 NATIONALITY: AMERICAN ZIP: 61610 AGE: 54YRS MARITAL STATUS: DIVORCED. PROFESSION: RETIRED REALTOR BROKER. BANK DETAILS: SCOTIA BANK 314 HARWOOD AVE. S UNIT HPO5 AJAX, ONT. L1S 2JI,CANADA. ACCOUNT NUMBER: 321020072923 ACCOUNT NAME: ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON PLEASE YOU ARE ADVISED TO RECONFIRM TO THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR OF CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA PROMPTLY, AND CLARIFY TO HIM THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED AND HAVE GIVEN A POWER OF ATTORNEY TO THE CBN TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS TO THE ABOVE NOMINATED ACCOUNT. THE SERIOUSNESS OF CORRUPTION AMONGST THE OFFICIALS OF MOST COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA IS AT ITS CLIMAX, HENCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA, ALHAJI UMARU YARA'DUA (GCFR) IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DELEGATED OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED NATIONS HAS MANDATED THE NIGERIA APEX BANK "CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA" TO PAY A PART PAYMENT OF US$6.5 MILLION IN FAVOR OF FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09, FROM YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE CONTRACT FUNDS. THE CBN WILL SEND YOU AN ATM DIGITAL CARD WHICH YOU WILL USE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MONEY IN ANY ATM MACHINE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD. SO IF YOU WILL LIKE TO RECEIVE YOUR FUNDS VIA THIS CONVENIENT AND SECURED WAY, THEN KINDLY CONTACT THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR (CBN), FINANCIAL SECTOR FOR IMMEDIATE PAYMENT. QUOTE FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09 DURING CONTACT. CONTACT DETAILS: Mr.Tunde Lemo DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (CBN) TEL: +2348059281980 EMAIL:mr.tundelemo96@yahoo.com HOWEVER, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN RE-ORGANIZING THESE SYSTEMS, AND EQUALLY THE INCONVENIENCES THIS DELAY MIGHT HAVE CAUSED YOU AND YOUR COMPANY IN THE VERY RECENT TIMES. OUR VISION IS TO ENCOURAGE FOREIGN INVESTORS BY CREATING SUITABLE AND ENABLING ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTMENT WITHIN THE SHORES OF AFRICA GENERALLY. MORE IMPORTANTLY,DO COMPLETE AND SEND THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION TO CONFIRM AND UPDATE YOUR RECORDS TO FACILITATE YOUR PAYMENT. 1) CONFIRM YOUR FULL NAME. 2) CONFIRM YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS. 3) CONFIRM YOUR PHONE, FAX AND MOBILE PHONE NUMBERS. 4) CONFIRM YOUR PROFESSION, AGE & MARITAL STATUS. 5) CONFIRM NATIONALITY. (THE ABOVE INFORMATIONS ARE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONVINCE) YOU ARE WARNED, IN YOUR OWN INTEREST; STOP FURTHER COMMUNICATION WITH ANY INSTITUTION, OFFICES OR PERSONS CLAIMING TO HAVE RELEVANCE TO THE PAYMENT OF YOUR OVERDUE FUNDS OUT-SIDE THE CBN. NOTE: TO AVOID MISAPPROPRIATION AND IMPERSONATION, YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN A CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09. YOU MUST INDICATE YOUR CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09 WHEN CONTACTING THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE, CBN. CONGRATULATIONS!! BEST REGARDS, SENATOR. JIBRIL AMINU, CHAIRMAN SENATE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA. From anonymous@ks357324.kimsufi.com Tue May 19 18:48:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ks357324.kimsufi.com (ks357324.kimsufi.com [91.121.147.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1223BE8C for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13215 invoked by uid 1006); 19 May 2009 11:06:42 -0000 Date: 19 May 2009 11:06:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20090519110642.13214.qmail@ks357324.kimsufi.com> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: YOUR US$6.5 MILLION IN ELECTRONIC ATM CREDIT CARD! From: SENATOR.JIBRIL AMINU Reply-To: mr.tundelemo96@live.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. NATIONAL HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY INTERNATIONAL CRED SETTLEMENT FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA OFFICEWEB:(www.nassnig.org) ATTN: BENEFICIARY, WITH REFERENCE TO THE NEW FEDERAL GOVERNMENT POLICY TOWARDS THE RECONCILIATION AND IMMEDIATE PAYMENT OF ALL OVERDUE DEBTS OWED BY THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TO HER FOREIGN INVESTORS BE OFFICIALLY INFORMED THAT WE HAVE VERIFIED YOUR PAYMENT FILE AND HAVE CONSEQUENTLY FIND OUT WHY YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE PAYMENT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DEALING WITH IMPOSTORS IN VARIOUS COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA,THEREBY BEING FRUSTRATED BY SEVERAL EXTORTION OF ILLEGITIMATE FEES AND CHARGES. SECONDLY, WE HAVE BEEN DULY INFORMED BY THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE THAT A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO EFFECT THE TRANSFER OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS TO A STRANGE ACCOUNT IN CANADA.THE NEW BENEFICIARY IS PURPORTED WAS CLAIMING TO BE YOUR COUSIN. HIS DETAILS ARE LISTED BELOW: MR. ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON ADD: 425 VELDE STREET, CREVE CEOUR, IL 61610 NATIONALITY: AMERICAN ZIP: 61610 AGE: 54YRS MARITAL STATUS: DIVORCED. PROFESSION: RETIRED REALTOR BROKER. BANK DETAILS: SCOTIA BANK 314 HARWOOD AVE. S UNIT HPO5 AJAX, ONT. L1S 2JI,CANADA. ACCOUNT NUMBER: 321020072923 ACCOUNT NAME: ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON PLEASE YOU ARE ADVISED TO RECONFIRM TO THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR OF CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA PROMPTLY, AND CLARIFY TO HIM THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED AND HAVE GIVEN A POWER OF ATTORNEY TO THE CBN TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS TO THE ABOVE NOMINATED ACCOUNT. THE SERIOUSNESS OF CORRUPTION AMONGST THE OFFICIALS OF MOST COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA IS AT ITS CLIMAX, HENCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA, ALHAJI UMARU YARA'DUA (GCFR) IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DELEGATED OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED NATIONS HAS MANDATED THE NIGERIA APEX BANK "CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA" TO PAY A PART PAYMENT OF US$6.5 MILLION IN FAVOR OF FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09, FROM YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE CONTRACT FUNDS. THE CBN WILL SEND YOU AN ATM DIGITAL CARD WHICH YOU WILL USE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MONEY IN ANY ATM MACHINE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD. SO IF YOU WILL LIKE TO RECEIVE YOUR FUNDS VIA THIS CONVENIENT AND SECURED WAY, THEN KINDLY CONTACT THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR (CBN), FINANCIAL SECTOR FOR IMMEDIATE PAYMENT. QUOTE FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09 DURING CONTACT. CONTACT DETAILS: Mr.Tunde Lemo DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (CBN) TEL: +2348059281980 EMAIL:mr.tundelemo96@yahoo.com HOWEVER, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN RE-ORGANIZING THESE SYSTEMS, AND EQUALLY THE INCONVENIENCES THIS DELAY MIGHT HAVE CAUSED YOU AND YOUR COMPANY IN THE VERY RECENT TIMES. OUR VISION IS TO ENCOURAGE FOREIGN INVESTORS BY CREATING SUITABLE AND ENABLING ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTMENT WITHIN THE SHORES OF AFRICA GENERALLY. MORE IMPORTANTLY,DO COMPLETE AND SEND THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION TO CONFIRM AND UPDATE YOUR RECORDS TO FACILITATE YOUR PAYMENT. 1) CONFIRM YOUR FULL NAME. 2) CONFIRM YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS. 3) CONFIRM YOUR PHONE, FAX AND MOBILE PHONE NUMBERS. 4) CONFIRM YOUR PROFESSION, AGE & MARITAL STATUS. 5) CONFIRM NATIONALITY. (THE ABOVE INFORMATIONS ARE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONVINCE) YOU ARE WARNED, IN YOUR OWN INTEREST; STOP FURTHER COMMUNICATION WITH ANY INSTITUTION, OFFICES OR PERSONS CLAIMING TO HAVE RELEVANCE TO THE PAYMENT OF YOUR OVERDUE FUNDS OUT-SIDE THE CBN. NOTE: TO AVOID MISAPPROPRIATION AND IMPERSONATION, YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN A CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09. YOU MUST INDICATE YOUR CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09 WHEN CONTACTING THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE, CBN. CONGRATULATIONS!! BEST REGARDS, SENATOR. JIBRIL AMINU, CHAIRMAN SENATE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA. From anonymous@ks357324.kimsufi.com Tue May 19 18:48:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ks357324.kimsufi.com (ks357324.kimsufi.com [91.121.147.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949F63BE92 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13507 invoked by uid 1006); 19 May 2009 11:08:21 -0000 Date: 19 May 2009 11:08:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20090519110821.13506.qmail@ks357324.kimsufi.com> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: YOUR US$6.5 MILLION IN ELECTRONIC ATM CREDIT CARD! From: SENATOR.JIBRIL AMINU Reply-To: mr.tundelemo96@live.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. NATIONAL HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY INTERNATIONAL CRED SETTLEMENT FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA OFFICEWEB:(www.nassnig.org) ATTN: BENEFICIARY, WITH REFERENCE TO THE NEW FEDERAL GOVERNMENT POLICY TOWARDS THE RECONCILIATION AND IMMEDIATE PAYMENT OF ALL OVERDUE DEBTS OWED BY THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TO HER FOREIGN INVESTORS BE OFFICIALLY INFORMED THAT WE HAVE VERIFIED YOUR PAYMENT FILE AND HAVE CONSEQUENTLY FIND OUT WHY YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE PAYMENT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DEALING WITH IMPOSTORS IN VARIOUS COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA,THEREBY BEING FRUSTRATED BY SEVERAL EXTORTION OF ILLEGITIMATE FEES AND CHARGES. SECONDLY, WE HAVE BEEN DULY INFORMED BY THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE THAT A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO EFFECT THE TRANSFER OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS TO A STRANGE ACCOUNT IN CANADA.THE NEW BENEFICIARY IS PURPORTED WAS CLAIMING TO BE YOUR COUSIN. HIS DETAILS ARE LISTED BELOW: MR. ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON ADD: 425 VELDE STREET, CREVE CEOUR, IL 61610 NATIONALITY: AMERICAN ZIP: 61610 AGE: 54YRS MARITAL STATUS: DIVORCED. PROFESSION: RETIRED REALTOR BROKER. BANK DETAILS: SCOTIA BANK 314 HARWOOD AVE. S UNIT HPO5 AJAX, ONT. L1S 2JI,CANADA. ACCOUNT NUMBER: 321020072923 ACCOUNT NAME: ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON PLEASE YOU ARE ADVISED TO RECONFIRM TO THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR OF CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA PROMPTLY, AND CLARIFY TO HIM THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED AND HAVE GIVEN A POWER OF ATTORNEY TO THE CBN TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS TO THE ABOVE NOMINATED ACCOUNT. THE SERIOUSNESS OF CORRUPTION AMONGST THE OFFICIALS OF MOST COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA IS AT ITS CLIMAX, HENCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA, ALHAJI UMARU YARA'DUA (GCFR) IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DELEGATED OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED NATIONS HAS MANDATED THE NIGERIA APEX BANK "CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA" TO PAY A PART PAYMENT OF US$6.5 MILLION IN FAVOR OF FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09, FROM YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE CONTRACT FUNDS. THE CBN WILL SEND YOU AN ATM DIGITAL CARD WHICH YOU WILL USE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MONEY IN ANY ATM MACHINE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD. SO IF YOU WILL LIKE TO RECEIVE YOUR FUNDS VIA THIS CONVENIENT AND SECURED WAY, THEN KINDLY CONTACT THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR (CBN), FINANCIAL SECTOR FOR IMMEDIATE PAYMENT. QUOTE FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09 DURING CONTACT. CONTACT DETAILS: Mr.Tunde Lemo DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (CBN) TEL: +2348059281980 EMAIL:mr.tundelemo96@yahoo.com HOWEVER, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN RE-ORGANIZING THESE SYSTEMS, AND EQUALLY THE INCONVENIENCES THIS DELAY MIGHT HAVE CAUSED YOU AND YOUR COMPANY IN THE VERY RECENT TIMES. OUR VISION IS TO ENCOURAGE FOREIGN INVESTORS BY CREATING SUITABLE AND ENABLING ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTMENT WITHIN THE SHORES OF AFRICA GENERALLY. MORE IMPORTANTLY,DO COMPLETE AND SEND THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION TO CONFIRM AND UPDATE YOUR RECORDS TO FACILITATE YOUR PAYMENT. 1) CONFIRM YOUR FULL NAME. 2) CONFIRM YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS. 3) CONFIRM YOUR PHONE, FAX AND MOBILE PHONE NUMBERS. 4) CONFIRM YOUR PROFESSION, AGE & MARITAL STATUS. 5) CONFIRM NATIONALITY. (THE ABOVE INFORMATIONS ARE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONVINCE) YOU ARE WARNED, IN YOUR OWN INTEREST; STOP FURTHER COMMUNICATION WITH ANY INSTITUTION, OFFICES OR PERSONS CLAIMING TO HAVE RELEVANCE TO THE PAYMENT OF YOUR OVERDUE FUNDS OUT-SIDE THE CBN. NOTE: TO AVOID MISAPPROPRIATION AND IMPERSONATION, YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN A CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09. YOU MUST INDICATE YOUR CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09 WHEN CONTACTING THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE, CBN. CONGRATULATIONS!! BEST REGARDS, SENATOR. JIBRIL AMINU, CHAIRMAN SENATE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA. From anonymous@ks357324.kimsufi.com Tue May 19 18:48:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ks357324.kimsufi.com (ks357324.kimsufi.com [91.121.147.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7D83BE90 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13016 invoked by uid 1006); 19 May 2009 11:05:39 -0000 Date: 19 May 2009 11:05:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20090519110539.13015.qmail@ks357324.kimsufi.com> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: YOUR US$6.5 MILLION IN ELECTRONIC ATM CREDIT CARD! From: SENATOR.JIBRIL AMINU Reply-To: mr.tundelemo96@live.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. NATIONAL HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY INTERNATIONAL CRED SETTLEMENT FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA OFFICEWEB:(www.nassnig.org) ATTN: BENEFICIARY, WITH REFERENCE TO THE NEW FEDERAL GOVERNMENT POLICY TOWARDS THE RECONCILIATION AND IMMEDIATE PAYMENT OF ALL OVERDUE DEBTS OWED BY THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TO HER FOREIGN INVESTORS BE OFFICIALLY INFORMED THAT WE HAVE VERIFIED YOUR PAYMENT FILE AND HAVE CONSEQUENTLY FIND OUT WHY YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE PAYMENT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DEALING WITH IMPOSTORS IN VARIOUS COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA,THEREBY BEING FRUSTRATED BY SEVERAL EXTORTION OF ILLEGITIMATE FEES AND CHARGES. SECONDLY, WE HAVE BEEN DULY INFORMED BY THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE THAT A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO EFFECT THE TRANSFER OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS TO A STRANGE ACCOUNT IN CANADA.THE NEW BENEFICIARY IS PURPORTED WAS CLAIMING TO BE YOUR COUSIN. HIS DETAILS ARE LISTED BELOW: MR. ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON ADD: 425 VELDE STREET, CREVE CEOUR, IL 61610 NATIONALITY: AMERICAN ZIP: 61610 AGE: 54YRS MARITAL STATUS: DIVORCED. PROFESSION: RETIRED REALTOR BROKER. BANK DETAILS: SCOTIA BANK 314 HARWOOD AVE. S UNIT HPO5 AJAX, ONT. L1S 2JI,CANADA. ACCOUNT NUMBER: 321020072923 ACCOUNT NAME: ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON PLEASE YOU ARE ADVISED TO RECONFIRM TO THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR OF CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA PROMPTLY, AND CLARIFY TO HIM THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED AND HAVE GIVEN A POWER OF ATTORNEY TO THE CBN TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS TO THE ABOVE NOMINATED ACCOUNT. THE SERIOUSNESS OF CORRUPTION AMONGST THE OFFICIALS OF MOST COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA IS AT ITS CLIMAX, HENCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA, ALHAJI UMARU YARA'DUA (GCFR) IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DELEGATED OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED NATIONS HAS MANDATED THE NIGERIA APEX BANK "CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA" TO PAY A PART PAYMENT OF US$6.5 MILLION IN FAVOR OF FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09, FROM YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE CONTRACT FUNDS. THE CBN WILL SEND YOU AN ATM DIGITAL CARD WHICH YOU WILL USE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MONEY IN ANY ATM MACHINE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD. SO IF YOU WILL LIKE TO RECEIVE YOUR FUNDS VIA THIS CONVENIENT AND SECURED WAY, THEN KINDLY CONTACT THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR (CBN), FINANCIAL SECTOR FOR IMMEDIATE PAYMENT. QUOTE FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09 DURING CONTACT. CONTACT DETAILS: Mr.Tunde Lemo DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (CBN) TEL: +2348059281980 EMAIL:mr.tundelemo96@yahoo.com HOWEVER, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN RE-ORGANIZING THESE SYSTEMS, AND EQUALLY THE INCONVENIENCES THIS DELAY MIGHT HAVE CAUSED YOU AND YOUR COMPANY IN THE VERY RECENT TIMES. OUR VISION IS TO ENCOURAGE FOREIGN INVESTORS BY CREATING SUITABLE AND ENABLING ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTMENT WITHIN THE SHORES OF AFRICA GENERALLY. MORE IMPORTANTLY,DO COMPLETE AND SEND THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION TO CONFIRM AND UPDATE YOUR RECORDS TO FACILITATE YOUR PAYMENT. 1) CONFIRM YOUR FULL NAME. 2) CONFIRM YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS. 3) CONFIRM YOUR PHONE, FAX AND MOBILE PHONE NUMBERS. 4) CONFIRM YOUR PROFESSION, AGE & MARITAL STATUS. 5) CONFIRM NATIONALITY. (THE ABOVE INFORMATIONS ARE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONVINCE) YOU ARE WARNED, IN YOUR OWN INTEREST; STOP FURTHER COMMUNICATION WITH ANY INSTITUTION, OFFICES OR PERSONS CLAIMING TO HAVE RELEVANCE TO THE PAYMENT OF YOUR OVERDUE FUNDS OUT-SIDE THE CBN. NOTE: TO AVOID MISAPPROPRIATION AND IMPERSONATION, YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN A CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09. YOU MUST INDICATE YOUR CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09 WHEN CONTACTING THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE, CBN. CONGRATULATIONS!! BEST REGARDS, SENATOR. JIBRIL AMINU, CHAIRMAN SENATE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA. From anonymous@ks357324.kimsufi.com Tue May 19 18:50:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ks357324.kimsufi.com (ks357324.kimsufi.com [91.121.147.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0243B3BE92 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13559 invoked by uid 1006); 19 May 2009 11:08:43 -0000 Date: 19 May 2009 11:08:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20090519110843.13558.qmail@ks357324.kimsufi.com> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: YOUR US$6.5 MILLION IN ELECTRONIC ATM CREDIT CARD! From: SENATOR.JIBRIL AMINU Reply-To: mr.tundelemo96@live.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. NATIONAL HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY INTERNATIONAL CRED SETTLEMENT FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA OFFICEWEB:(www.nassnig.org) ATTN: BENEFICIARY, WITH REFERENCE TO THE NEW FEDERAL GOVERNMENT POLICY TOWARDS THE RECONCILIATION AND IMMEDIATE PAYMENT OF ALL OVERDUE DEBTS OWED BY THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TO HER FOREIGN INVESTORS BE OFFICIALLY INFORMED THAT WE HAVE VERIFIED YOUR PAYMENT FILE AND HAVE CONSEQUENTLY FIND OUT WHY YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE PAYMENT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DEALING WITH IMPOSTORS IN VARIOUS COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA,THEREBY BEING FRUSTRATED BY SEVERAL EXTORTION OF ILLEGITIMATE FEES AND CHARGES. SECONDLY, WE HAVE BEEN DULY INFORMED BY THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE THAT A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO EFFECT THE TRANSFER OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS TO A STRANGE ACCOUNT IN CANADA.THE NEW BENEFICIARY IS PURPORTED WAS CLAIMING TO BE YOUR COUSIN. HIS DETAILS ARE LISTED BELOW: MR. ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON ADD: 425 VELDE STREET, CREVE CEOUR, IL 61610 NATIONALITY: AMERICAN ZIP: 61610 AGE: 54YRS MARITAL STATUS: DIVORCED. PROFESSION: RETIRED REALTOR BROKER. BANK DETAILS: SCOTIA BANK 314 HARWOOD AVE. S UNIT HPO5 AJAX, ONT. L1S 2JI,CANADA. ACCOUNT NUMBER: 321020072923 ACCOUNT NAME: ANDREW FRANCIS SVENKESON PLEASE YOU ARE ADVISED TO RECONFIRM TO THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR OF CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA PROMPTLY, AND CLARIFY TO HIM THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED AND HAVE GIVEN A POWER OF ATTORNEY TO THE CBN TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS TO THE ABOVE NOMINATED ACCOUNT. THE SERIOUSNESS OF CORRUPTION AMONGST THE OFFICIALS OF MOST COMMERCIAL BANKS IN NIGERIA IS AT ITS CLIMAX, HENCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA, ALHAJI UMARU YARA'DUA (GCFR) IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DELEGATED OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED NATIONS HAS MANDATED THE NIGERIA APEX BANK "CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA" TO PAY A PART PAYMENT OF US$6.5 MILLION IN FAVOR OF FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09, FROM YOUR OVERDUE INHERITANCE CONTRACT FUNDS. THE CBN WILL SEND YOU AN ATM DIGITAL CARD WHICH YOU WILL USE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MONEY IN ANY ATM MACHINE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD. SO IF YOU WILL LIKE TO RECEIVE YOUR FUNDS VIA THIS CONVENIENT AND SECURED WAY, THEN KINDLY CONTACT THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR (CBN), FINANCIAL SECTOR FOR IMMEDIATE PAYMENT. QUOTE FILE#: CBN/ATM/CBX/021/09 DURING CONTACT. CONTACT DETAILS: Mr.Tunde Lemo DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (CBN) TEL: +2348059281980 EMAIL:mr.tundelemo96@yahoo.com HOWEVER, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN RE-ORGANIZING THESE SYSTEMS, AND EQUALLY THE INCONVENIENCES THIS DELAY MIGHT HAVE CAUSED YOU AND YOUR COMPANY IN THE VERY RECENT TIMES. OUR VISION IS TO ENCOURAGE FOREIGN INVESTORS BY CREATING SUITABLE AND ENABLING ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTMENT WITHIN THE SHORES OF AFRICA GENERALLY. MORE IMPORTANTLY,DO COMPLETE AND SEND THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION TO CONFIRM AND UPDATE YOUR RECORDS TO FACILITATE YOUR PAYMENT. 1) CONFIRM YOUR FULL NAME. 2) CONFIRM YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS. 3) CONFIRM YOUR PHONE, FAX AND MOBILE PHONE NUMBERS. 4) CONFIRM YOUR PROFESSION, AGE & MARITAL STATUS. 5) CONFIRM NATIONALITY. (THE ABOVE INFORMATIONS ARE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONVINCE) YOU ARE WARNED, IN YOUR OWN INTEREST; STOP FURTHER COMMUNICATION WITH ANY INSTITUTION, OFFICES OR PERSONS CLAIMING TO HAVE RELEVANCE TO THE PAYMENT OF YOUR OVERDUE FUNDS OUT-SIDE THE CBN. NOTE: TO AVOID MISAPPROPRIATION AND IMPERSONATION, YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN A CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09. YOU MUST INDICATE YOUR CODE OF CONDUCT REFERENCE NUMBER: CBN/ATMSCXX0X5X7X5X09 WHEN CONTACTING THE DEPUTY GOVERNOR, FINANCIAL SECTOR SURVEILLANCE, CBN. CONGRATULATIONS!! BEST REGARDS, SENATOR. JIBRIL AMINU, CHAIRMAN SENATE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 19:11:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0433F3BE88; Tue, 19 May 2009 19:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 197803183/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.222.75/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.222.75 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4CAOygEkpPTt5L/2dsb2JhbAAI0EaEAgWIQA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,217,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="197803183" Message-ID: <4A13071B.7030904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:23:07 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy References: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3EKB3D.A.cZE.NRwEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Paul Richards wrote: > the reasons this board sucks so much (and a couple of others). It is > really pathetic and has been so for many years. The only thing this > board is known for nowdays is horrible music and long, boring threads > about how to invoke some useless feature on a piece of hardware or > software. > you're kind of burning your bridges here if you ever need to ask how to unsubscribe. ;-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 19:14:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CA8B3BE92; Tue, 19 May 2009 19:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1OLbMl9KJMdNb9EXhUU2/JBdlqqB0wBgXqgiZJOKgds=; b=vfBIVZiKTcfXpplLprNMjjcmbjEg8d9IZnSUeGCeebnVTCCCqJ8kVujkWbCF2M2j0b gc3w8CiINPaE0lcFeHLrxzRFxB7zrWBQQXaqh0zp+WzETiI4nCf01/fe42VsgSLnQmrQ iEu0l7RHO4UG4+aMdLGzt2wmRUHQBqcBCNrRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VfMYYjcTro9tWWXpRTPyXa/3eLUbh1ecoV+Yq2x2jtN4GwI7hJoj7FpbLZBrNh8OsT SNDnQneqxRJW7eOLQWWVoNDwmyD4Bfhk/qtDaGOfb+GliTVcPrGe6/FIMS9YvrcjiVyl gYOpUPSNidteav0ftP5f9Ah/Odk363cEQz/ME= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:14:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:14:36 +0000 (UTC) YOU ROCK Paul! Paul ROCKS everyone! Just like 7th graders scrawl on their book covers! Rock on! On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > Why don't you shove a four foot long extruded gnochi up your asshole, put= z? > > I think YOU'VE found a niche on this board: being a recalcitrant, > close-minded dickwad who likes to try to shout down folks. You're one=A0o= f the > reasons this board sucks so much (and a couple of others). It is really > pathetic and has been so for many years. The only thing this board is kno= wn > for nowdays is horrible music and long, boring threads about how to invok= e > some useless feature on a piece of hardware or software. > > > --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 1:35 PM > > We have a winner!=A0 The moment someone brings up serial killers in a > discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers, they > automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare themselves an > ass hole.=A0 Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an idiot? > > To answer you, no, it does not.=A0 It also does not apply to the stupid, > which is the group I will forever identify you with.=A0 Artistic > expression is a matter of taste.=A0 Stupid, well that's universal.=A0 You > are stupid. > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards > wrote: >> Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child >> molesters >> as well? >> >> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> From: Mark Sottilaro >> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM >> >> Agreed.=A0 I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go for it= . >> >> >>> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort in the >>> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty much >>> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up >>> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow >>> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily and he's >>> staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and >>> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. >>> -- >>> Miko Biffle >>> Biffoz@Gmail.com >>> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com >>> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 19:18:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9762B3BE8D; Tue, 19 May 2009 19:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A130603.4000001@dehnhard.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:18:27 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy References: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+87Dna5QwbjVOLNZDgEM9Dyni6z9TgBdNMOFC uDLD1ClMH+OLLRUSDVTrewLaciB8fkMvhiAodKnOFMUJ2AZ5z0 JX8yyNeKq7R+gP9XbMwQXSd82G/vvz9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:18:34 +0000 (UTC) PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE!!! you guys are worse than spam when you get ugly. Paul Richards schrieb: > Why don't you shove a four foot long extruded gnochi up your asshole, putz? > > I think YOU'VE found a niche on this board: being a recalcitrant, > close-minded dickwad who likes to try to shout down folks. You're one of > the reasons this board sucks so much (and a couple of others). It is > really pathetic and has been so for many years. The only thing this > board is known for nowdays is horrible music and long, boring threads > about how to invoke some useless feature on a piece of hardware or > software. > > > > --- On *Tue, 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro //* wrote: > > > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 1:35 PM > > We have a winner! The moment someone brings up serial killers in a > discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers, they > automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare themselves an > ass hole. Why not bring up Hitler to really prove you're an idiot? > > To answer you, no, it does not. It also does not apply to the stupid, > which is the group I will forever identify you with. Artistic > expression is a matter of taste. Stupid, well that's universal. You > are stupid. > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards > > > wrote: > > Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial killers and child > molesters > > as well? > > > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro > > wrote: > > > > From: Mark Sottilaro > > > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM > > > > Agreed. I'm always impressed by people who find a niche and go > for it. > > > > > >> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable time and effort > in the > >> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, and he pretty > much > >> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm going to be a fan is up > >> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that he's somehow > >> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move forward daily > and he's > >> staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, committed and > >> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for thought. > >> -- > >> Miko Biffle > >> Biffoz@Gmail.com > > >> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > > >> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > >> > >> > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 19:54:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 504363BE84; Tue, 19 May 2009 19:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:54:13 -0500 Subject: RE: Weird Looping Guy Thread-Topic: Weird Looping Guy Thread-Index: AcnYtpxNLcXxS1BoTI+q5U1Tnxqw3QABPlSl Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADBB10C619@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <776972.96981.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,<4A130603.4000001@dehnhard.com> In-Reply-To: <4A130603.4000001@dehnhard.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:54:31 +0000 (UTC) http://ugly-halloween-costumes.com/scary/Spam/ ________________________________________ From: Tilmann Dehnhard [tilmann@dehnhard.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE!!! you guys are worse than spam when you get ugly.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 20:34:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 155EA3BE80; Tue, 19 May 2009 20:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: Weird Looping Guy Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:33:59 +0200 Message-ID: <004101c9d8c1$23cc5050$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnYsP7lagpzohscS8GtQpkjR6hyxwAEANnQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.168; VDF: 7.1.3.225) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:34:01 +0000 (UTC) > Stupid, well that's universal. You are stupid. Flame Wars !! when was the last time we had one on LD? I can't remember. :-) -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 20:55:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E8183BE79; Tue, 19 May 2009 20:55:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XbWXNt0HGIwGecnH1ECGvCtuPx1z1jeTG1MZ7hO35Gs=; b=kO9HxIEx1qlANfsonP8dbyoeWX1S8/uWMiQ91wyoKDieVIxsFaFp2R3xAG0u/FLF+c eDklgFKN/Zk7gPDmuT+Sn/yNr3X39HxXD2LZiSL8oE9rDBMaOq/mLQZo2utCB7i9XcWt 7p5aXzFj6ySjiI0yudRE6Kl9qq+01cSE2K/+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hVx06fGgMaMbyEj8SU/HLQoomQaTnRltY4uqJMSJd1xl6YL+IkRfdBrd1T1m6pV8rM l/vLq8Vw0S4JeRCiueONBnUUHb8gYjzg2wFKs0UzA2S3I8ulGo23m08dTffzWXtPvfIS CmLT43wI4dYp6I5gyBO2ZB8aMeobVKj4TyYmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004101c9d8c1$23cc5050$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <004101c9d8c1$23cc5050$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:55:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:55:32 +0000 (UTC) For those who haven't been paying attention, let me explain. Someone posted a link of a guy looping. On topic. Someone trashed the guy as being "terrible." I remarked that perhaps it would be useful to not flame someone who's obviously skilled but not your cup of tea. My stance at defending a guy was compared to me defending child molesters. That's stupid. I don't think you'd find too many people who'd disagree. Do you disagree? If you don't, then you are saying that defending a guy who's actually a very skilled guitar player but perhaps plays in a style that isn't very popular is roughly equal to me defending child molesters and serial killers. Chew on that for a bit, then come back. Back? There are no moderators here. Shame really. It's why I left LD many moons ago and now mostly hang out in the really well moderated forum kvraudio.com. Mostly the conversation there is of a very high level and that's do to the vigilance of really good moderators. Here...it's the wild west mother fuckers. Don't like it? Unsubscribe. Not my attitude, Kim's. Next time I see him at Whole Foods I'll give his produce a squeeze just to let him know how I feel. ;) One thing for sure is this. If someone likens my behavior with a child molestation sympathizer, they will be called stupid. That's just a start. You've been warned. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> Stupid, well that's universal. =A0You are stupid. > > Flame Wars !! =A0when was the last time we had one on LD? I can't remembe= r. > :-) > > -m > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 21:06:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86C5B3BE81; Tue, 19 May 2009 21:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A131F38.1040608@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:06:00 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy References: <004101c9d8c1$23cc5050$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:06:02 +0000 (UTC) This list has proven itself to not need moderation, except arguably in the flame wars that erupt every few.......years. Things go off topic, but people generally use OT, at least when starting new threads. Generally when things get to a personal nature, they're taken offlist by the parties involved. That obviously should have happened long already here. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Back? There are no moderators here. Shame really. It's why I left > LD many moons ago and now mostly hang out in the really well moderated > forum kvraudio.com. Mostly the conversation there is of a very high > level and that's do to the vigilance of really good moderators. > > Here...it's the wild west mother fuckers. Don't like it? > Unsubscribe. Not my attitude, Kim's. Next time I see him at Whole > Foods I'll give his produce a squeeze just to let him know how I feel. > ;) One thing for sure is this. If someone likens my behavior with a > child molestation sympathizer, they will be called stupid. That's > just a start. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 21:23:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 157513BE79; Tue, 19 May 2009 21:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E+T639QGAdCObcGZ0FzSdFyPGozXWj7jz6goarAN/kY=; b=eAw9A1KCT4ChH+WERkInKm/mwmsv518dl3USGFh86fplhCCRn8X85q5Lo0vF8DOndM 3GQ34MJ4ODrLBNvO5+h/ADQSQPG5sP1QfFSOobCOW66ArPr+guJOKBeUiK/x+aPOewL7 unG1KeodL/6Ub2Tb8aPZQ7FmdeP49rVIpd2/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LKy0Shhomp22bsrljDL4ZZqUl5KPXcc7VvAjwbnN1CXQT7MSJc/TduJFbMhNzSgtkk ooSrbNmKpm8h7trgg1DoYkxur0WfrBs44PJaXzKC9ziXwcWuNBgstnx3JfP8oTjQmHDY SbQC4fyNfMrX+/BhhPqFlfCFPxZIwb2qWGGcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A131F38.1040608@mhorse.com> References: <004101c9d8c1$23cc5050$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A131F38.1040608@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:23:22 -0500 Message-ID: <9e2a71240905191423y226857ebq6a27862d12e81b40@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Michael Pregeant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64647663e6ccb046a4a8514 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:23:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64647663e6ccb046a4a8514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well shit, regardless of if he has any sort of talent is obsolete at this point; he's certainly poked the ant pile. I think I feel them biting at my ankles.. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > This list has proven itself to not need moderation, except arguably in the > flame wars that erupt every few.......years. > > Things go off topic, but people generally use OT, at least when starting > new threads. > > Generally when things get to a personal nature, they're taken offlist by > the parties involved. That obviously should have happened long already here. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > Back? There are no moderators here. Shame really. It's why I left >> LD many moons ago and now mostly hang out in the really well moderated >> forum kvraudio.com. Mostly the conversation there is of a very high >> level and that's do to the vigilance of really good moderators. >> >> Here...it's the wild west mother fuckers. Don't like it? >> Unsubscribe. Not my attitude, Kim's. Next time I see him at Whole >> Foods I'll give his produce a squeeze just to let him know how I feel. >> ;) One thing for sure is this. If someone likens my behavior with a >> child molestation sympathizer, they will be called stupid. That's >> just a start. >> >> > > --0016e64647663e6ccb046a4a8514 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well shit,=A0regardless=A0of if he has any sort of talent is obsolete at th= is point; he's certainly poked the ant pile. I think I feel them biting= at my ankles..

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4= :06 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
This list has proven itself to not need mod= eration, except arguably in the flame wars that erupt every few.......years= .

Things go off topic, but people generally use OT, at least when starting ne= w threads.

Generally when things get to a personal nature, they're taken offlist b= y the parties involved. That obviously should have happened long already he= re.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com


Back? =A0There are no moderators here. =A0Shame really. =A0It's why I l= eft
LD many moons ago and now mostly hang out in the really well moderated
forum kvraudio.com. = =A0Mostly the conversation there is of a very high
level and that's do to the vigilance of really good moderators.

Here...it's the wild west mother fuckers. =A0Don't like it?
Unsubscribe. Not my attitude, Kim's. =A0Next time I see him at Whole Foods I'll give his produce a squeeze just to let him know how I feel.<= br> ;) =A0One thing for sure is this. =A0If someone likens my behavior with a child molestation sympathizer, they will be called stupid. =A0That's just a start.
=A0


--0016e64647663e6ccb046a4a8514-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 21:41:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 021103BE7E; Tue, 19 May 2009 21:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mdN5ktBVCW5OFKmXnTIx2pbtWhkXKP7j/bnGhlVRarQ=; b=hZQYX3FnnYYEkBESMASlgJxaBYWaxtHmVCx8ZwHvwjLLJZXPylFo3rjyFtAEssSYxU kPhTbHGDlqNNnjw5n4vCPo54cw7bw/DefDJn+auYmYvnIv2Y2hkWm1AQXkhqQ/jwgnJR jdEsenAWcMvRuVp7BB5wAyiP0B/nz28kPaJ58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mZ5WUUeS/aOW+Q77D5AEcvB+WuZtxCWUu29JCH8uZ2Py0c5m2CSF4C2Kn5UExIKoLb ymlXgH3PdIcX2kXtdlp1Fby01JQyRdAoN6La5hdpZOqbipCDvlcrIanjHVbh9qQyf/Gg xxxYHUELXdV8CIEk74AJRoMB5GmoGAKoS+kr8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A131F38.1040608@mhorse.com> References: <004101c9d8c1$23cc5050$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A131F38.1040608@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:34:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905191434p6ce5fda6v318954c954679581@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_bFj7D.A.bfC.xdyEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:41:05 +0000 (UTC) When Paul or anyone else invokes "Adolph Hitler", "child molesters" and "serial killers", it certainly illustrates 'something'. It's also a cheap shot that associates your name and email address with super-volatile, negative subjects. I guess it can be nice, thuggy, fun to bag on various, popularly-unpopular victims=97maybe on Facebook or Myspace, but not here. So go fuck yourself Paul=97see ya around. -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 22:19:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA3733BE79; Tue, 19 May 2009 22:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1907 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 19 May 2009 22:19:54 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: tZo51b0080ASqTN0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:48:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Weird Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20090519221954.64DFD3BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Weird... I just got unsubscribed. At least I was notified that I was being automatically unsubscribed - how thoughtful of the listsrv! No - that's not weird. What's weird is that I've resubscribed. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 22:53:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EC4C3BE7E; Tue, 19 May 2009 22:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242773627; bh=VJBuQYWwfhXVBGavZX/isPhWumvswFng84dZv+eX2GY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HuEpMLxC/DDmBlSoBEll39oqQS+H2o1prsht88JqRAC+R3kQYcr+GftM11o4sT8XODXVpzHwaUOSq98ecA3V0jCEjWdTqb6ClpkryMdJy3yBGLrHfmj+sfX05XHP3TRp1JkHDt8sUpYY3FvSUziqXF/helCv12X+/JGKHLy0bx0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C3IqjQ+4C/zcnw+aaPUqTo0IxbxjPJEEVmJRjGVFafFnLvXskgiROAk4TepdHuDz2AWbqMYPym4vrXFbOM1paq8OtJlUxG74TdS4VBL9LjeqyH61aRqXNuLIE1tC0CztG/MNhnaX27ogy3Gx8n8rMRs4t5knK6nOiZtBrsDYE/w=; Message-ID: <694941.97823.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:53:47 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2DrNwC.A.UgF.9hzEKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:53:49 +0000 (UTC) LD new moderator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8Gy-Cq75BWY&feature=3Drelated www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Paul Richards schrieb am Di, 19.5.2009: > Von: Paul Richards > Betreff: Re: Weird Looping Guy > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2009, 11:31 > Why don't you shove a four > foot long extruded gnochi up your asshole, putz? > =A0 > I think YOU'VE found a niche on this board: being > a recalcitrant, close-minded dickwad who likes to try to > shout down folks. You're one=A0of the reasons this > board sucks so much (and a couple of others). It is really > pathetic and has been so for many years. The only thing this > board is known for nowdays is horrible music and long, > boring threads about how to invoke some useless feature on a > piece of hardware or software.=20 > =A0 > =A0 >=20 > --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: Mark Sottilaro > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 1:35 PM >=20 >=20 > We have a winner!=A0 The moment > someone brings up serial killers in a > discussion that has nothing to do with serial killers, > they > automatically lose any credibility and defacto declare > themselves an > ass hole.=A0 Why not bring up Hitler to really prove > you're an idiot? >=20 > To answer you, no, it does not.=A0 It also does not > apply to the stupid, > which is the group I will forever identify you with.=A0 > Artistic > expression is a matter of taste.=A0 Stupid, well > that's universal.=A0 You > are stupid. >=20 > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Paul Richards > > wrote: > > Does that philosophical outlook apply to serial > killers and child molesters > > as well? > > > > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: > > > > From: Mark Sottilaro > > Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:39 PM > > > > Agreed.=A0 I'm always impressed by people who > find a niche and go for it. > > > > > >> IMO this guy has clearly invested considerable > time and effort in the > >> execution of a concept that holds meaning for HIM, > and he pretty much > >> pulls everything off seamlessly. Whether I'm > going to be > a fan is up > >> to me, but it would be presumptuous to infer that > he's somehow > >> clueless. We all face choices as to how we move > forward daily and he's > >> staked his claim. He may in fact be more grounded, > committed and > >> blissfully engaged than many of us here. Food for > thought. > >> -- > >> Miko Biffle > >> Biffoz@Gmail.com > >> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > >> "Running scared from all the usual > distractions!" > >> > >> > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 22:59:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 570733BE70; Tue, 19 May 2009 22:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242773982; bh=Lhqh8zwtuQABD6HgmGEFWBX+aOTvNyVUzkXKTM6X7QI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HGBNBZUbSRXTNe4HAQhF5fLHqrlw1fCym9qzbwBp+/EkCkabI5j2Hyq8PE8ObsXCZvWOcu/sRQGLus8UUbDcWJO8wQKLX1WhCbUMLpM8yaucjrtal/1pU2IVPfL86S9N7n4sJhoU83A1CRvsGyPMluwANXMEB+Wpgb4hH39o6Ss= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aKV6Eix4micLhQfK1N1Sqx9/AqyJCledYTBYdILZvo3MhAmm0WzB/5u13zCMN61mRhDc669DhoslP/HR8dR6zAt5ye9OU0N7SmbjVC/FkQGfuPS6/ocuouOhXSdO/+CRpklfuHtCPhusEF7YEQHQFm0LNNkpv2ze76oRNYR1gdM=; Message-ID: <249610.83668.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:59:41 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: millennia preamp - OT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Hey Erdem, If you ve never played cello,is it just as difficult or is it made friendly= for guitarrists? id like to also see more examples of plain guitar playing= with it. Cheers and thanx for the info! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Erdem Helvacioglu schrieb am Di, 19.5.2009: > Von: Erdem Helvacioglu > Betreff: Re: millennia preamp - OT > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2009, 3:44 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > hey, > =C2=A0 > i am using the electric guitar naked spartan version. > that is the cheapest=20 > model without any midi. > =C2=A0 > i have uploaded a folder that contains 4 audio files > with the violguitar=20 > with 4 different preamp setting. the millennia stt-1 solid > state, millennia=20 > stt-1 tube, tl audio vp1 tube preamp, joemeek vc6q preamp. > check out the=20 > transparency on the millennia stt-1! > =C2=A0 > https://download.yousendit.com/U0d4M25DVnNiR0pMWEE9PQ > =C2=A0 > bear in mind that i can not play this instrument well > at all! :) i=20 > especially tried some extended techniques and lots of > harmonics to hear the=20 > transparency on the preamps. > =C2=A0 > best. > =C2=A0 > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > *=20 > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on=20 > Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 > =C2=A0 > "wounded breath album > will open you up to new=20 > experiences and=20 > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to=20 > you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > =C2=A0 > "wounded breath is an > outstanding acousmatic=20 > record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes >=20 > ----- Original Message > -----=20 > From:=20 > L.Angulo=20 > =20 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > ; billwalker@baymoon.com >=20 > Sent: Tuesday, May > 19, 2009 6:40 AM > Subject: RE: > millennia preamp - OT > =20 >=20 > this does look amazing!i take it Erdem is using the=20 > electric model? > models with midi wow but i wonder about the=20 > tracking! > Luis >=20 >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 > ---=20 > William Walker > schrieb am=20 > Mo, 18.5.2009: >=20 > > Von: William Walker > >=20 > Betreff: RE: millennia preamp - OT > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > Datum: Montag, 18. Mai 2009, 20:27 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > =20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > Yep > > that=E2=80=99s correct, they sound > > amazing BTW. A truly unique=20 > instrument that has a curved > > fretted fingerboard > > and is meant=20 > to be bowed, the sound is very warm and woody, > > and dare I say > >=20 > cello-like in timbre. Its an ideal instrument for a > > guitarist wanting=20 > to get in > > to the world of bowed instruments, or a cellist > wanting=20 > to > > get more chordal and > > guitar-like. It aint cheap by guitar=20 > standards but > > it=E2=80=99s a bargain by > > classical cello standards.=20 > Small portable and fits in one > > of those cool coffin > > cases. The=20 > proprietary pickups sound wonderful and can > > handle any kind of > >=20 > volume or signal processing without feedback issues. I > got > > to hear it=20 > when Erdem > > first got it and I was floored by the sound. > >=C2=A0=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > bill > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > > From: Todd Matthews > >=20 > [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com]=20 > >=20 > > Sent: Monday, > > May 18,=20 > 2009 4:16 PM > >=20 > > To:=20 > >=C2=A0 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > =20 > > Subject: Re: > > millennia preamp - OT=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > > Hey Zoe,=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > I think=20 > he is referring to the Guitar > > viols by Jonathan Wilson. He > >=20 > makes a cello model that is actually tuned like like a 5 > > string bass=20 > but it is > > an octave higher outting it in the 'cello > > range'=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > http://www.togamanguitars.com/downloads/index.php > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Scroll to the bottom and there is=20 > a > > video of him playing his guitar > > cello model. It sounds=20 > pretty awesome.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Todd Matthews=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe > > Keating=20 > > > > wrote:=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > (what is a cello > > guitar?)=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > > On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem > > Helvacioglu wrote:=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > hey, > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > so > > sorry that=20 > this is > > off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1=20 > micpreamp > > ( with high > > impedance instrument input. ) wow! this=20 > is the greatest, > > most transparent > > preamp that i have ever=20 > heard. incredible. my new cello > > guitar came to life. it > > was as=20 > though i became a cellist :)=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > if > > you get chance, > > please do yourself a favor and try this=20 > unit. it seems that > > it will work great > > with guitar, bass,=20 > vocals, drums etc.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > thanks > >=20 > and best.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Erdem > >=20 > Helvacioglu > >=20 > > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > >=20 > =20 > > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > >=20 > =20 > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >=20 > > "Wounded=20 > Breath" album is out now on Aucourant > > Records: > >=20 > > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > "wounded > > breath > >=20 > album will open you up to new experiences and=20 > >=20 > > allow you to=20 > explore worlds previously closed to > > you." > >=20 > >=20 > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > "wounded > > breath > > is an outstanding acousmatic record,=20 > period." > >=20 > > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 > =20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 23:03:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FC4D3BE7C; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+bw+51JdU2a6L1AhLrGkOKQ/tRuTlrFXHG/irBMl2wk=; b=DcUhGpqFdU4zBHeerjSHxPvcIkF6wwdFod2s68SC9IVrb8SWgrdcceT4WEDCOXEYDf CGAoOKItEQF4cA4/mutcal2BiDef3tMw4jX7eZZmtdmBV1z3ur3U1Rnd+zzEGtNiKiqI sB3i1T2058eLZBamOiYj+jkTT9EkbGwawzbxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=G0tlb1kVpAeiUY3n1nvljNctfmFDhCALqWmUFRlsgcweI7fphQ2rCDkj+5T05jOmvd PC0a3GEJ6yF7pEiXA8dGtng/jgpbcXIjrGghZMfLg5uRMRpzTm+XpJipBh6V8KFF/2Gy Xnt8jFv1lNIl2GkoQv/u2wR4f2WH49AXgDrVs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:03:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: VSTi Drum loop generator group buy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:03:17 +0000 (UTC) For those of you who've got a thing for cool VSTis for looping, check this out: http://www.hgsounds.com/shop/vst-plugins/black-magic-loop-generatordrum-machine-group-buy There's a "lite" version for free download that's already pretty damn full featured, which makes me think the full version must be off the hook. (remember when that phrase meant something?) Either way, if you're looking for something that cooks up random loops with really interesting sounds, I recommend this tool. If it goes to the lowest price of the group buy it'll be an amazing bargain. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 23:11:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2DB63BE7C; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 574 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:11:01 UTC X-ME-UUID: 20090519230126159.26EB41C00083@mwinf3429.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Newly subscribed! Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:01:26 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:11:01 +0000 (UTC) I have been wondering if perhaps today was not the best day to subscribe to the list (-: To say that my inbox presented me with a rich tapestry of postings is to put it mildly..... It did, however, make me investigate my mail filtering rules! Anyway; here I am. Hello to Andy, Mike, Per and anyone else on the list who already knows me. To all those who don't; I'm a UK-based classically-trained violinist who got into looping a few years ago while playing in a group with bassist Steve Lawson. I currently do quite a lot of looping in my solo gigs, alongside normal acoustic violin repertoire. I started off with a succession of hardware loopers - Boss RC20, Echoplex, Looperlative - but finally went over to the software side a couple of years ago. My current main gig setup is; 5-string electric violin by Fidelius. SooperLooper within Logic 8 on a MacBook Pro. Gordius Little Giant controller. I also use Roland PK5 midi bass pedals. My looping at the moment tends to fall into 2 main categories: 1) Stuff I've arranged or written: This tends to be either arrangements of classical pieces, cover versions of songs, and the odd original composition. 2) Stuff other people have written for me: This ranges from original looping pieces by a variety of composers, to looping arrangements and covers. Given a little more free time (sometime this century I hope!) I'd like to explore writing more original stuff of my own, and also more improvisational looping. If you're interested enough in any of this to want to find out more, my website is at www.stevebingham.co.uk, where there are sound clips and also some live video recordings of some of my looping. I look forward to more learning about what you are all doing with your looping, and less flaming..... (-: Best wishes to all, Steve Steve Bingham www.stevebingham.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 23:47:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF43A3BE79; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A134502.7010003@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:47:14 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Hey Paul, I went back and read every single post you made in this current thread. Every one seemed condescending and judgemental. Everyone was argumentative and challenging. My feathers didn't get ruffled because over the years similar posts have come and gone, but I could tell that you were both spoiling for a fight and that you'd get one. In addition your profess to really dislike this list. So, from a very calm and rational place, I have two pieces of advice for you having been a long time member of this community and having tried really hard to promote the notion of live looping. It's gratuitous advice so you don't have to take it, but I'll proffer it just in case it's helpful 1) You can lower the anger quotient, relax a little and be a contributing, proactive member of this community (you know, making the kinds of posts that you really wished you'd see more often here; sharing some of your music so it can be appreciated, building bridges to all the wonderful benefits that this community has to offer- like knowledge, wisdom, the ability to exchange creativity with other musicians, the ability to travel and play with other like minded musicians etc. and lastly, the ability to be appreciated and accepted as an artist and a human being as most human beings have the desire for.) or 2) You can stop spinning your wheels and unsubscribe so that the huge majority of the people on this list can get back to talking about the things we love most. Either way, I wish you well. Rick Walker Y2K9 International Live Looping Festival From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 19 23:48:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D9FC3BE81; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JO6yqh7Iw6Xvj6wXLEGOZQzAOzEpLRdzdV+7Dx2FB7c=; b=xvAvNEzS1R/+FhIEScnY8gECAACbqMrvNpibof7hFlqCbVof1DGNRKfo+edDqw1o8F QwpZ5hm3obeB6Qq8DlvKmao4dKbbSZclN5qPVaG7PA43pBL7RisJVsdbd1PejPO+ccvb pN2GQHsRed+DRWWPw01iLwuFcu4xa+ca6YSk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xaqy07EECV//zAe7Jqe2J0dtO4+/xUlICrmBtK3RfBMaxMT91XwK6Cj58wKPCHsGC/ ENEpmQDoF9aeIyWcwuDFnJq5GxeYrVYcGWERUtOnQeVkDxIl0m5jz8GI3gbSeRKDYqHs 7jnHeqtcAuI0U+bl8aSjLd6bp5zL57iZ2uuuQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> References: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:48:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Newly subscribed! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Welcome aboard. In case you know me, I'm still my cranky wise ass self. ;) This is quite a beautiful piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHML_HiZYD0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstevebingham.co.uk%2Fhome%2F%3Fp%3D6&feature=player_embedded I hope no one likens me to someone aiding terrorists for saying so! On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Steve Bingham wrote: > I have been wondering if perhaps today was not the best day to subscribe to > the list (-: To say that my inbox presented me with a rich tapestry of > postings is to put it mildly..... It did, however, make me investigate my > mail filtering rules! > > Anyway; here I am. > > Hello to Andy, Mike, Per and anyone else on the list who already knows me. > > To all those who don't; I'm a UK-based classically-trained violinist who got > into looping a few years ago while playing in a group with bassist Steve > Lawson. I currently do quite a lot of looping in my solo gigs, alongside > normal acoustic violin repertoire. > > I started off with a succession of hardware loopers - Boss RC20, Echoplex, > Looperlative - but finally went over to the software side a couple of years > ago. > > My current main gig setup is; 5-string electric violin by Fidelius. > SooperLooper within Logic 8 on a MacBook Pro. Gordius Little Giant > controller. I also use Roland PK5 midi bass pedals. > > My looping at the moment tends to fall into 2 main categories: 1) Stuff I've > arranged or written: This tends to be either arrangements of classical > pieces, cover versions of songs, and the odd original composition. 2) Stuff > other people have written for me: This ranges from original looping pieces > by a variety of composers, to looping arrangements and covers. > > Given a little more free time (sometime this century I hope!) I'd like to > explore writing more original stuff of my own, and also more improvisational > looping. > > If you're interested enough in any of this to want to find out more, my > website is at www.stevebingham.co.uk, where there are sound clips and also > some live video recordings of some of my looping. > > I look forward to more learning about what you are all doing with your > looping, and less flaming..... (-: > > Best wishes to all, > Steve > > Steve Bingham > www.stevebingham.co.uk > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 00:05:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6BF63BE7E; Wed, 20 May 2009 00:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242777911; bh=3T27azdZGK9vz+XCyFxvun/bEic7QOaDloBx+uaqfEg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tkL8bJm+MhSGQ9tqdM+ler6wYeAF6/Uj687xwY5xq6UU3wWSOWExgj/LmHT5de1+FiZEdt87cizDBmsymtlrClzjU4FYqELISFAgsjQR1hi2yrUaRPEe+CbIE699EFx642Io/zpLXvG4cNmgbesxO5q7+OaJV+0JMKqI2EOHLhQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5cBy5VyZsCB1ST493mQdnpv0ozB0DP970017exIc9FmcmgjzfJjbtQG923mV+64bkwwYbpgKOvfq5SACqUSYVce8klruPIp96YQnMIYhyXn2rAeYyNpW6+rTfmICpsSqibmNirRVQscD+VWYYoWM4LS67oObT0RGlM+sRXviQ5E=; Message-ID: <393944.43678.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kgnPv9QVM1mIasig7hJwUSghMeI2SQOeH3GbNR.SJYG3NRKiCgVKDmiT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:05:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: RE: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-181931809-1242777910=:43678" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:05:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-181931809-1242777910=:43678 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The old farts needed something to shake them up, get the cobwebs out of the= ir brains and possibly create something new & exciting (not that I'm a whip= persnapper). I was just being extreme and exaggerating anyway. 'Sorry for a= ny offense. --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Michael Peters wrote: From: Michael Peters Subject: RE: Weird Looping Guy To: "Loopers Delight" Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 4:33 PM > Stupid, well that's universal.=A0 You are stupid. Flame Wars !!=A0 when was the last time we had one on LD? I can't remember. :-) -m =0A=0A=0A --0-181931809-1242777910=:43678 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-181931809-1242777910=:43678-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 00:12:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AF1F3BE73; Wed, 20 May 2009 00:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242778373; bh=gv+Dd25+mevUprQn8iOQ1bGEmobXT2CM9dVIzx99990=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QhheeGocqj1/8jfSWewONWNfcuk3VyVZ7+jhig/7UFrSDlpGNih1D5/4ikqfgc1rmOorGqX90ZxE8F8q2XgJu0UmDyDKmwbOmC5dbamSoqcvIFgKYPFo9DGkWuYTnYDhqF87KZd0m/RcfHO5NQdP9iOBOzckrG+Po86r72zk6Sw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZFN2y/UJTidkUuSDIPbMxXS6Z76m01xSMIqf6MFgTHLLJhSTwNFPEt3A5aoho/63du6x6HeNVj2xBodVMZjjhYGMer7VeleeQJBwSYY0gw56d7EPIsbZ3fJNOoj9P6Wu5O485G9uBOBkBGVMJ7pvWRIAjAh/k4AwTARWnI2kTH0=; Message-ID: <77629.47857.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .xGsCcEVM1nslThthaW.3ObYFnszx7urfr1SedGl2jSmjBcTYjU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:12:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: OT: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1104765566-1242778372=:47857" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:12:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-1104765566-1242778372=:47857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now here's a guy (stanitarium) that knows how to wail. I remember some of his stuff from a couple of years ago. --- On Tue, 5/19/09, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 2:15 PM gosh...so many rules :-) -----Original Message----- >From: james fowler >Sent: May 19, 2009 9:44 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy > >unless you're roy orbison, you should be punched in the face for wearing >sunglasses inside. > >- jim --0-1104765566-1242778372=:47857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
The old farts needed something to shake them = up, get the cobwebs out of their brains and possibly create something new &= amp; exciting (not that I'm a whippersnapper). I was just being extreme and= exaggerating anyway. 'Sorry for any offense.

--- On Tue, 5/19/09= , Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

From: Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
Sub= ject: RE: Weird Looping Guy
To: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 4:33 PM

> Stupid, well that's universal.  You are st= upid.

Flame Wars !!  when was the last time we had one on LD? I= can't remember.
:-)

-m

Now here's a guy (stanitarium) that knows how to wail. I remember some of his stuff from a couple of years ago.

--- On Tue, 5/19/09, stanitarium@earthlink.net <stanitarium@earthlink.net> wrote:

From: stanitarium@earthlink.net <stanitarium@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 2:15 PM

gosh...so many rules :-)

-----Original Message-----
>From: james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com>
>Sent: May 19, 2009 9:44 AM
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: Re: Weird Looping Guy
>
>unless you're roy orbison, you should be punched in the face for wearing
>sunglasses inside.
>
>- jim


--0-1104765566-1242778372=:47857-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 00:55:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 586253BE7C; Wed, 20 May 2009 00:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=hcp4WlnYjx/uPGkizDGJ7AQ/ripoCv0Vtey1LVArsktOaK5wRDmTVHeHaLcN2VHtfBkUS6dz+SASt3a62IjI1NH5+pXmFeiZ2xwoU7AEd7zHuu8t2WA8L0EvW2WOW9pK; Message-ID: <20090519195555.el26sc6vlwc4o0so@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:55:55 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newly subscribed! References: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> In-Reply-To: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Steve Bingham : > > > I look forward to more learning about what you are all doing with your > looping, and less flaming..... (-: > > Best wishes to all, > Steve > > Steve, Welcome aboard. We are like one big, happy (occasionally dysfunctional) family here! **grins** Seriously, I've been on this list for over three years and the "Weird Looping Guy" thread is the only bonafide flame war I've see on this list. Usually a good-natured pie-fight is the extent of the drama. Good to hear from you. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 01:12:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AEF43BE77; Wed, 20 May 2009 01:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242781927; bh=/NoJsLRn2/kSi7m9rjw1RB/VvuJsmk3HQJtx65ADGVM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=halE87+Y6dNI/jGQhkQVbSYhmVLYFHPADga0SNnWItG9wcoc4iLUj5UP/kLsXhD9WgvNUkazxsrpK0ZNewC8vaWzcOYIKQSCJpvCSMhmMlQ3TJSmfRAVU8UhGAOm44mxTqV3Xexgxvt855W99HCqZeUeVFyMP9Ev4R9QAFIt+M0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=q61eCm8bWMRryvkTRN8ztLXjoHt5pedtm6EPZIvyoQdXgYbsfIgapKnvcrCElDrGQgau6bs8KWhl4DVFatbrz6TZKjA04KrOhs0pSL7OA7AuYeWxdXbmTEriw0GqU/w48YE74CtARhyvIDwYOL5Wl5++/o8rsqW9EDrpPcGRxzk=; Message-ID: <895241.20203.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:12:07 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:12:09 +0000 (UTC) when i was younger i used to read band biographies and would fall asleep li= stening to records on headphones and remeber being totally fascinated by th= e whole rock n roll fantasy.I can say that some of this books really influe= nced me because i was always interested how this people were able to write = such good songs,look so cool and put such amazing shows and where they got = their sources from.Through those books and their references i got into othe= r types of music that i probably would have never discover or listened to a= nd developed a wider musical appreciation so in that sense i suppose they h= ad an impact in my musical life. Always trying to do something new is also part of nature though i think whe= n we feel stucked or in a musical rut we should not be afraid to go back to= our initial influeces since they were the ones that really captured out mu= sical inocence. www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- andy butler schrieb am So, 17.5.2009: > Von: andy butler > Betreff: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Sonntag, 17. Mai 2009, 10:20 > Yep, same here as far as music being > influenced by reading. > If I'm listening to music that offers no more > than it's verbal description I feel cheated. >=20 > andy butler >=20 > Krispen Hartung wrote: > > None. I've read a lot of books on music, but in the > end, what has change my musical life is the "doing", not the > reading.=A0 Ironically, although my personal life is very > much guided by theory, philosophy, and science, my music > life appears to be guided only by practice and experience. I > can't really explain it, but nothing I've ready has really > compelled any change in my artistic vision and direction. It > is all inner self and experience > driven.=A0=A0=A0Anyone else in this category of > response? > >=20 > > Kris > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 01:20:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 820163BE85; Wed, 20 May 2009 01:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242782412; bh=4rVCDp5LYGoovlaxSCXrcY4n/MT6URx0Mp3cv0rX6Hk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=L/HTc6iOal8eE8mGAvcHCrEl1vjxHX7hwukPt2eB4UDHwB6VLXhFdEv9eN7XPLsYFEAAbxowWoaqlOQBzeuDIe9egXLrDy28fkMgpZ0W9s5k0YlcwMz8MDlYUemRhNa04bRJMq7Lyt9z2oj0+uWSud2S6FgHhBaXKCVE734vbwY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bsbEo/rrTUidKXBEFdMAMONgVutlOuuD5aGpf8TdRk7+nIOG8tBImNX12tEQcs3+NsTVXrSGbn/PCMHttyderclY9Z9HiCJbV5S5aDAoA7WIOIkJSlIReZlRUndJ4cuZ26lZuL9G5P3xAmy5AVbZFMr+k5QPzIbN95eHIsxLuUk=; Message-ID: <163092.37711.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:20:12 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:20:13 +0000 (UTC) lots of good recomedations here time to go shopping! ok,so now any recomendations of online good used books other than Amazon or= ebay? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Buzap Buzap schrieb am Sa, 16.5.2009: > Von: Buzap Buzap > Betreff: Re: Great Books That Have Changed Our Musical Lives > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Samstag, 16. Mai 2009, 10:29 > ok, in the spriritual realm there are > quite a few books (mostly (auto)biographies) that have > impressed me. >=20 > Other then that: > - Stephen Covey, 7 Habits of Highly Effective People > - Paul Zollo, Songwriters on Songwriting (a MUST for every > songwriter!) > - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus logico-philosophicus > - Anything written by Sir Peter Ustinov > - Yehudi Menuhin, Unfinished Journey (Biography) >=20 > > Makes me > > think about that part in Bhagavad-Gita where Krishna > tells Arjuna > > "it's ok to fight if you do in a spiritual mode". Boy, > does that story > > stink! > Actually, reading "Illusions" by Richard Bach (very short > and amusing) was a positive influence for me in that > direction. Feels sort of an Aikido attitude. > But of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion... > :)=20 >=20 > best regards > Buzap > --=20 > Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + > Telefonanschluss f=FCr nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/fre= edsl-surfflat/?ac=3DOM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 03:57:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B69383BE7C; Wed, 20 May 2009 03:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242791820; bh=5SrII3THhL/PYp1hKFdhfO19TZuls1FJZaaSiR+1rck=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WNc2eP+GolAsL+z9pxoQ2GL9neMQMNirJZfVPniZkVn7xpqWAzUYAqBdO2+/QdoOgP3dPMeUrWGzhUrpA3xHq1zGhDtak/tAvxaQHtS4lm37TlmMDgd31AYOp/wDc9bYVbDOSN1K0x179IgUN+w897WMtC98gbwyULw7WWSJ0Xk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=f9HJaLcqjpms9heI0MFx0lVBDtZtvbSJST+j28BaivEYpGMvH0dxB7jZIfEiEvFqWkQxLF+g753d9FHPYEzrnM0m4hnzBitNLwglWn94iW6saRXIXzJn0h6eXONNbWM8lFmE4HpApJsft1SCdlraO9rtdjXdB5d0i1ohZG3KJyk=; Message-ID: <474728.87968.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 03:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: anybody here with Quickstar productions? To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <13EHKD.A.P9C.N-3EKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 03:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, I just got a mail from this guys and they are interested in using one of my= tunes for a CD sampler production,i was wondering if anybody else here has= been approached by them and if u think it would be wise doing this here are their terms and conditions: Rock 4 Life=E2=80=9D will be marketed and made available in the following w= ays: 1.PHYSICAL SALES: You will receive 50 copies of the CD to sell at whatever = price you choose. These will be professionally produced, retail ready CD=E2= =80=99s. We recommend selling them for $8. That way you can make $400. You = keep 100% of your sales. This is a great way to get more merchandise to sel= l at your shows and also a way to target other fans in your genre. The idea= is that when each artist sells their 50 copies, the other artists on the C= D will have their music exposed to other fans of your genre of music. Your = song will be exposed to many new listeners in this manner. 2.DIGITAL SALES: The compilation will be made available for sale in all dig= ital stores including iTunes,Rhapsody,Wal-Mart, Napster, and Amazon. Your s= ong will also be available as a ringtone that your fans may purchase. You w= ill receive 50% of profits generated. 3.EXPOSURE: The CD will be sent to record labels, marketing, and management= firms. Along with the CD, a booklet featuring your picture and bio will be= made available so they can learn a little bit more about you. In addition,= free promo copies will be handed out at concerts in the Baltimore/Washingt= on area. Quickstar Productions will also promote the album by using MySpace= and banner ads. 4.RADIO: The CD will be sent to college and internet radio stations and be = featured on various podcasts throughout the world. 5.NETWORKING: Developing a network with other musicians is key to ones succ= ess. This comp CD is a chance to do so. You will be provided with all the o= ther artists information before the CD is released so that you can start sh= ow swapping with one another, networking and helping each other out To have your song included on our upcoming compilation CD please visit our = website, Quickstarproductions com, to download the submission form. We do n= ot charge a fee to be on =E2=80=9CRock 4 Life=E2=80=9D, but we do ask that = you purchase 50 CD=E2=80=99s to distribute at cost ($175). This will be the= only cost to you. One of the most important parts of this project is getti= ng the CD into the hands of fans. The more CD=E2=80=99s that you are able t= o distribute the more exposure everyone gets. Please check out QuickstarProductions com for more info on this compilation= . Since we hope to release this CD in the Summer of 2009, we ask that all s= ubmissions be returned by June 1st. Please feel free to contact me anytime = if you have any questions. I look forward to working with you. thanx for your advice! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 05:31:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DDF53BE75; Wed, 20 May 2009 05:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A13944E.6060601@dehnhard.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:25:34 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newly subscribed! References: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> In-Reply-To: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+5fw3qMgX0zyhKAY2J2w3pK4MBlE+uWH2V4ZN kz3XfueJN8Kf7cETX65gajiDPerDeyEh6KSpVU/a+cUZ0Ok9G1 OwFakhtiJOkeS5fl7nMeCfIivTt3cRq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 05:31:30 +0000 (UTC) welcome, steve! we have approx. one flame war every two or three years and though they may be ghastly sometimes they last only for a very short time. so please enjoy the upcoming, easygoing, mostly truly amiable looping-nerdness that this list usually provides. best - tilmann Steve Bingham schrieb: > I have been wondering if perhaps today was not the best day to subscribe > to the list (-: To say that my inbox presented me with a rich tapestry > of postings is to put it mildly..... It did, however, make me > investigate my mail filtering rules! > > Anyway; here I am. > > Hello to Andy, Mike, Per and anyone else on the list who already knows me. > > To all those who don't; I'm a UK-based classically-trained violinist who > got into looping a few years ago while playing in a group with bassist > Steve Lawson. I currently do quite a lot of looping in my solo gigs, > alongside normal acoustic violin repertoire. > > I started off with a succession of hardware loopers - Boss RC20, > Echoplex, Looperlative - but finally went over to the software side a > couple of years ago. > > My current main gig setup is; 5-string electric violin by Fidelius. > SooperLooper within Logic 8 on a MacBook Pro. Gordius Little Giant > controller. I also use Roland PK5 midi bass pedals. > > My looping at the moment tends to fall into 2 main categories: 1) Stuff > I've arranged or written: This tends to be either arrangements of > classical pieces, cover versions of songs, and the odd original > composition. 2) Stuff other people have written for me: This ranges from > original looping pieces by a variety of composers, to looping > arrangements and covers. > > Given a little more free time (sometime this century I hope!) I'd like > to explore writing more original stuff of my own, and also more > improvisational looping. > > If you're interested enough in any of this to want to find out more, my > website is at www.stevebingham.co.uk, where there are sound clips and > also some live video recordings of some of my looping. > > I look forward to more learning about what you are all doing with your > looping, and less flaming..... (-: > > Best wishes to all, > Steve > > Steve Bingham > www.stevebingham.co.uk > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 06:40:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E1A53BE7E; Wed, 20 May 2009 06:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2e3358a8-3fea-4e98-a6c7-68b5e726257c_" X-Originating-IP: [207.119.216.33] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: anybody here with Quickstar productions? Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:40:17 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <474728.87968.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <474728.87968.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2009 06:40:17.0119 (UTC) FILETIME=[D66406F0:01C9D915] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:40:18 +0000 (UTC) --_2e3358a8-3fea-4e98-a6c7-68b5e726257c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wellp- ild say its well worth it if they actually do what they claim- but i doubt they do - its hard to track if CD's actually get sent to labels= ....college radio play...etc you can put your own music on those digital sites all by yourself i'ld imag= ine- booooo ringtones- basically they get 12 bands to pay $175 which totals $2100- they print 50 CD's for each band which equals 600 CD's- they charge you $3.50 per CD when it probably costs them about $1.50 a pop- so they get $2100 and only have to spend $1.50* 600 =3D $900 which leaves them with about $1200 left over......which is their payment fo= r putting together the CD=2C sending it to college radio (no guarentee of p= lay time)=2C etc.... ild try to track down an allready completed compilation CD and ask the band= s if it was worth it good luck > Date: Wed=2C 20 May 2009 03:57:00 +0000 > From: labaloops@yahoo.com > Subject: anybody here with Quickstar productions? > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 >=20 > Hi gang=2C > I just got a mail from this guys and they are interested in using one of = my tunes for a CD sampler production=2Ci was wondering if anybody else here= has been approached by them and if u think it would be wise doing this > here are their terms and conditions: >=20 >=20 > Rock 4 Life=94 will be marketed and made available in the following ways: >=20 >=20 > 1.PHYSICAL SALES: You will receive 50 copies of the CD to sell at whateve= r price you choose. These will be professionally produced=2C retail ready C= D=92s. We recommend selling them for $8. That way you can make $400. You ke= ep 100% of your sales. This is a great way to get more merchandise to sell = at your shows and also a way to target other fans in your genre. The idea i= s that when each artist sells their 50 copies=2C the other artists on the C= D will have their music exposed to other fans of your genre of music. Your = song will be exposed to many new listeners in this manner. >=20 >=20 > 2.DIGITAL SALES: The compilation will be made available for sale in all d= igital stores including iTunes=2CRhapsody=2CWal-Mart=2C Napster=2C and Amaz= on. Your song will also be available as a ringtone that your fans may purch= ase. You will receive 50% of profits generated. >=20 >=20 > 3.EXPOSURE: The CD will be sent to record labels=2C marketing=2C and mana= gement firms. Along with the CD=2C a booklet featuring your picture and bio= will be made available so they can learn a little bit more about you. In a= ddition=2C free promo copies will be handed out at concerts in the Baltimor= e/Washington area. Quickstar Productions will also promote the album by usi= ng MySpace and banner ads. >=20 >=20 > 4.RADIO: The CD will be sent to college and internet radio stations and b= e featured on various podcasts throughout the world. >=20 >=20 > 5.NETWORKING: Developing a network with other musicians is key to ones su= ccess. This comp CD is a chance to do so. You will be provided with all the= other artists information before the CD is released so that you can start = show swapping with one another=2C networking and helping each other out >=20 >=20 > To have your song included on our upcoming compilation CD please visit ou= r website=2C Quickstarproductions com=2C to download the submission form. W= e do not charge a fee to be on =93Rock 4 Life=94=2C but we do ask that you = purchase 50 CD=92s to distribute at cost ($175). This will be the only cost= to you. One of the most important parts of this project is getting the CD = into the hands of fans. The more CD=92s that you are able to distribute the= more exposure everyone gets. >=20 >=20 > Please check out QuickstarProductions com for more info on this compilati= on. Since we hope to release this CD in the Summer of 2009=2C we ask that a= ll submissions be returned by June 1st. Please feel free to contact me anyt= ime if you have any questions. I look forward to working with you. >=20 >=20 > thanx for your advice! >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut= orial_QuickAdd1_052009= --_2e3358a8-3fea-4e98-a6c7-68b5e726257c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wellp-
ild say its well worth it if they actually do what they claim-but i doubt they do - its hard to track if CD's actually get sent to label= s....college radio play...etc
you can put your own music on those digita= l sites all by yourself i'ld imagine-
booooo ringtones-


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they print 50 CD'= s for each band which equals 600 CD's-
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>=3B Subject:= anybody here with Quickstar productions?
>=3B To: loopers-delight@loo= pers-delight.com
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>=3B Hi gang=2C
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Insert movie tim= es and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. = --_2e3358a8-3fea-4e98-a6c7-68b5e726257c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 08:39:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D9903BE7F; Wed, 20 May 2009 08:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 198624104/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.215.43/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.215.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosCAEdeE0pPTtcr/2dsb2JhbAAIzxyEAwWIQA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,220,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="198624104" Message-ID: <4A13C47F.8080806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:51:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newly subscribed! References: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> In-Reply-To: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Steve Bingham wrote: > Hello to Andy, Mike, Per and anyone else on the list who already knows me. Hi Steve, welcome. > > To all those who don't; I'm a UK-based classically-trained violinist and a successful performer within the classical world, with a string of cd releases. > If you're interested enough in any of this to want to find out more, my > website is at www.stevebingham.co.uk, where there are sound clips and > also some live video recordings of some of my looping. ...and be sure to ask Steve to your Looping Festival. andy butler From Martindavid01@centrum.cz Wed May 20 09:12:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 305 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 20 May 2009 09:12:24 UTC Received: from mail1003.centrum.cz (mail1003.centrum.cz [90.183.38.133]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F263BE72; Wed, 20 May 2009 09:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail1003.centrum.cz id S1612495389AbZETJHA (ORCPT + 1 other); Wed, 20 May 2009 11:07:00 +0200 Received: from 81.91.229.133 (X-Forwarded-For: 81.91.229.133) by mail1003.centrum.cz (Centrum Mail) with HTTP Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:07:00 +0200 From: X-Mailer: Centrum Mail 5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <200905201107.30341@centrum.cz> Subject: Hello my good friend, Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_12345_-------=_3FE529F.318B2D58" To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) --_12345_-------=_3FE529F.318B2D58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello my good friend,   Compliments of the season and God's blessings from Martin David I am the Barrister who contacted you long ago, I am very happy to inform you about my success in getting that fund transferred, Now I want you to contact my secretary on the information below.   NAME: Edwin Udoh PHONE:+229 939 137 55 EMAIL: edwinudoh072@live.fr   I want to compensate you and show my gratitude to you with the sum of $1,5m cashier cheque which I left to my secretary on your behalf.   Ask him to send you the total  of ($1,5m)USD Cashier's Cheque, which I kept for your compensation contact him on his email or His direct telephone   Please I will like you to accept this token with good faith as this is from the bottom of my heart,Also comply with Mr. Edwin's directives so that he will send the cheque to you   Please do let me know immediately you receive it so that we can share the joy after all the sufferies at that time. In the moment,I am very busy here in Germany because of the investment projects me and my new partners are having at hand.   Therefore, you should send him your full Name and telephone number/your current mailing address where you want him to send the money to you.   Thanks and God bless you and your family. Hoping to hear from you. Barrister Martin David.         (Germany) --_12345_-------=_3FE529F.318B2D58 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello my good friend,
 
Compliments of the season and God's blessings from Martin David I am the Barrister who contacted you long ago, I am very happy to inform you about my success in getting that fund transferred, Now I want you to contact my secretary on the information below.
 
NAME: Edwin Udoh
PHONE:+229 939 137 55
EMAIL: edwinudoh072@live.fr
 
I want to compensate you and show my gratitude to you with the sum of $1,5m cashier cheque which I left to my secretary on your behalf.
 
Ask him to send you the total  of ($1,5m)USD Cashier's Cheque, which I kept for your compensation contact him on his email or His direct telephone
 
Please I will like you to accept this token with good faith as this is from the bottom of my heart,Also comply with Mr. Edwin's directives so that he will send the cheque to you
 
Please do let me know immediately you receive it so that we can share the joy after all the sufferies at that time. In the moment,I am very busy here in Germany because of the investment projects me and my new partners are having at hand.
 
Therefore, you should send him your full Name and telephone number/your current mailing address where you want him to send the money to you.
 
Thanks and God bless you and your family.

Hoping to hear from you.
Barrister Martin David.        
(Germany)

--_12345_-------=_3FE529F.318B2D58-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 09:16:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E2D83BE7C; Wed, 20 May 2009 09:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008701c9d92b$a6bbb3b0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <249610.83668.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: millennia preamp - OT Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:16:25 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9D944.CBC8AE60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:16:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9D944.CBC8AE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it is made friendly for guitarists, that is for sure. remember that it = uses regular electric guitar strings and the instrumen is fretted. but = it would be hard to play fast picked lines, or bent notes. this is a = unique instrument that you need to adapt yourself. but a great = investment especially for soundtrack work. he is selling a lot to major = film composers in LA at the moment. also the instrument does not have switches for pickups but volume = controls. that way you can blend guitar like sound with the cello = character. with the tone control you can get very low frequencies too = which is very impressive. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: L.Angulo=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Re: millennia preamp - OT Hey Erdem, If you ve never played cello,is it just as difficult or is it made = friendly for guitarrists? id like to also see more examples of plain = guitar playing with it. Cheers and thanx for the info! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Erdem Helvacioglu schrieb am Di, 19.5.2009: > Von: Erdem Helvacioglu > Betreff: Re: millennia preamp - OT > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2009, 3:44 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > hey, >=20 > i am using the electric guitar naked spartan version. > that is the cheapest=20 > model without any midi. >=20 > i have uploaded a folder that contains 4 audio files > with the violguitar=20 > with 4 different preamp setting. the millennia stt-1 solid > state, millennia=20 > stt-1 tube, tl audio vp1 tube preamp, joemeek vc6q preamp. > check out the=20 > transparency on the millennia stt-1! >=20 > https://download.yousendit.com/U0d4M25DVnNiR0pMWEE9PQ >=20 > bear in mind that i can not play this instrument well > at all! :) i=20 > especially tried some extended techniques and lots of > harmonics to hear the=20 > transparency on the preamps. >=20 > best. >=20 > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > *=20 > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on=20 > Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 >=20 > "wounded breath album > will open you up to new=20 > experiences and=20 > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to=20 > you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus >=20 > "wounded breath is an > outstanding acousmatic=20 > record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes >=20 > ----- Original Message > -----=20 > From:=20 > L.Angulo=20 > =20 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > ; billwalker@baymoon.com >=20 > Sent: Tuesday, May > 19, 2009 6:40 AM > Subject: RE: > millennia preamp - OT > =20 >=20 > this does look amazing!i take it Erdem is using the=20 > electric model? > models with midi wow but i wonder about the=20 > tracking! > Luis >=20 >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 > ---=20 > William Walker > schrieb am=20 > Mo, 18.5.2009: >=20 > > Von: William Walker > >=20 > Betreff: RE: millennia preamp - OT > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > Datum: Montag, 18. Mai 2009, 20:27 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > Yep > > that=E2=80=99s correct, they sound > > amazing BTW. A truly unique=20 > instrument that has a curved > > fretted fingerboard > > and is meant=20 > to be bowed, the sound is very warm and woody, > > and dare I say > >=20 > cello-like in timbre. Its an ideal instrument for a > > guitarist wanting=20 > to get in > > to the world of bowed instruments, or a cellist > wanting=20 > to > > get more chordal and > > guitar-like. It aint cheap by guitar=20 > standards but > > it=E2=80=99s a bargain by > > classical cello standards.=20 > Small portable and fits in one > > of those cool coffin > > cases. The=20 > proprietary pickups sound wonderful and can > > handle any kind of > >=20 > volume or signal processing without feedback issues. I > got > > to hear it=20 > when Erdem > > first got it and I was floored by the sound. > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > bill > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > > From: Todd Matthews > >=20 > [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com]=20 > >=20 > > Sent: Monday, > > May 18,=20 > 2009 4:16 PM > >=20 > > To:=20 > > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > =20 > > Subject: Re: > > millennia preamp - OT=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Hey Zoe,=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > I think=20 > he is referring to the Guitar > > viols by Jonathan Wilson. He > >=20 > makes a cello model that is actually tuned like like a 5 > > string bass=20 > but it is > > an octave higher outting it in the 'cello > > range'=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > http://www.togamanguitars.com/downloads/index.php > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Scroll to the bottom and there is=20 > a > > video of him playing his guitar > > cello model. It sounds=20 > pretty awesome.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Todd Matthews=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Zoe > > Keating=20 > > > > wrote:=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > (what is a cello > > guitar?)=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > > On May 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Erdem > > Helvacioglu wrote:=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > hey, > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > so > > sorry that=20 > this is > > off topic. but today i tried the millennia stt-1=20 > micpreamp > > ( with high > > impedance instrument input. ) wow! this=20 > is the greatest, > > most transparent > > preamp that i have ever=20 > heard. incredible. my new cello > > guitar came to life. it > > was as=20 > though i became a cellist :)=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > if > > you get chance, > > please do yourself a favor and try this=20 > unit. it seems that > > it will work great > > with guitar, bass,=20 > vocals, drums etc.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > thanks > >=20 > and best.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Erdem > >=20 > Helvacioglu > >=20 > > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > >=20 > =20 > > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > >=20 > =20 > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >=20 > > "Wounded=20 > Breath" album is out now on Aucourant > > Records: > >=20 > > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > "wounded > > breath > >=20 > album will open you up to new experiences and=20 > >=20 > > allow you to=20 > explore worlds previously closed to > > you." > >=20 > >=20 > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > "wounded > > breath > > is an outstanding acousmatic record,=20 > period." > >=20 > > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9D944.CBC8AE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
it is made friendly for guitarists, that is for sure. remember that = it uses=20 regular electric guitar strings and the instrumen is fretted. but it = would be=20 hard to play fast picked lines, or bent notes. this is a unique = instrument that=20 you need to adapt yourself. but a great investment especially for = soundtrack=20 work. he is selling a lot to major film composers in LA at the = moment.
 
also the instrument does not have switches for pickups but volume = controls.=20 that way you can blend guitar like sound with the cello character. with = the tone=20 control you can get very low frequencies too which is very = impressive.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
 
"wounded breath album will open you up = to new=20 experiences and
allow you to explore worlds previously closed to=20 you."
Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
 
"wounded breath is an outstanding = acousmatic=20 record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 L.Angulo=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 = 1:59=20 AM
Subject: Re: millennia preamp - = OT


Hey Erdem,
If you ve never played cello,is it = just as=20 difficult or is it made friendly for guitarrists? id like to also see = more=20 examples of plain guitar playing with it.
Cheers and thanx for the=20 info!
Luis

www.myspace.com/luisanguloc= om


---=20 Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> schrieb am = Di,=20 19.5.2009:

> Von: Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>
> = Betreff: Re:=20 millennia preamp - OT
> An: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 Datum: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2009, 3:44
> =EF=BB=BF
> =
> =20
> 
>
>
> 
> hey,
> =
>=20 i am using the electric guitar naked spartan version.
> that is = the=20 cheapest
> model without any midi.
>
> i have = uploaded a=20 folder that contains 4 audio files
> with the violguitar =
> with 4=20 different preamp setting. the millennia stt-1 solid
> state, = millennia=20
> stt-1 tube, tl audio vp1 tube preamp, joemeek vc6q = preamp.
>=20 check out the
> transparency on the millennia stt-1!
> =
>=20 https://do= wnload.yousendit.com/U0d4M25DVnNiR0pMWEE9PQ
>=20
> bear in mind that i can not play this instrument well
> = at all!=20 :) i
> especially tried some extended techniques and lots = of
>=20 harmonics to hear the
> transparency on the preamps.
> =
>=20 best.
>
> Erdem Helvacioglu
> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= > www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
>=20 *
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> "Wounded = Breath"=20 album is out now on
> Aucourant Records:
> www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
= >=20
> "wounded breath album
> will open you up to new =
>=20 experiences and
> allow you to explore worlds previously closed = to=20
> you."
> Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
>
> = "wounded=20 breath is an
> outstanding acousmatic
> record, = period."
>=20 Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
>
>   ----- = Original=20 Message
> -----
>   From:
>   = L.Angulo=20
>  
>   To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20
>   ; billwalker@baymoon.com
>= =20
>   Sent: Tuesday, May
> 19, 2009 6:40=20 AM
>   Subject: RE:
> millennia preamp -=20 OT
>  
>
> this does look amazing!i take = it=20 Erdem is using the
>   electric model?
> models = with=20 midi wow but i wonder about the
>   tracking!
> = Luis
>
>
> www.myspace.com/luisanguloc= om
>=20
>
> ---
>   William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
= >=20 schrieb am
>   Mo, 18.5.2009:
>
> > = Von:=20 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
= >=20 >
>   Betreff: RE: millennia preamp - OT
> = > An:=20 Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 >
>   Datum: Montag, 18. Mai 2009, 20:27
> = >=20
> >
> >
> >
>   =
> >=20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =
>=20 >
>  
> >
> >
> > =
>=20 >
> >
> >
> >
> >=20
>   Yep
> > that=E2=80=99s correct, they = sound
> >=20 amazing BTW. A truly unique
>   instrument that has a = curved
> > fretted fingerboard
> > and is meant=20
>   to be bowed, the sound is very warm and = woody,
>=20 > and dare I say
> >
>   cello-like in = timbre.=20 Its an ideal instrument for a
> > guitarist wanting=20
>   to get in
> > to the world of bowed = instruments,=20 or a cellist
> wanting
>   to
> > get = more=20 chordal and
> > guitar-like. It aint cheap by guitar=20
>   standards but
> > it=E2=80=99s a bargain = by
> >=20 classical cello standards.
>   Small portable and = fits in=20 one
> > of those cool coffin
> > cases. The=20
>   proprietary pickups sound wonderful and = can
> >=20 handle any kind of
> >
>   volume or signal=20 processing without feedback issues. I
> got
> > to hear = it=20
>   when Erdem
> > first got it and I was = floored by=20 the sound.
> >
>  
> >
> = >=20
> >
> >
> > bill
> >
> = >=20
> >
>  
> >
> > =
> >=20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >=20
>  
> >
> >
> > From: = Todd=20 Matthews
> >
>   = [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com]=20
> >
> > Sent: Monday,
> > May 18,=20
>   2009 4:16 PM
> >
> > To: =
> >=20 Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 >
>  
> > Subject: Re:
> > = millennia=20 preamp - OT
> >
> >
> > =
>  =20
> >
> >
> > Hey Zoe,
> > =
> >=20
> >
>  
> >
> > =
> >=20
> >
> >
> >
> > I think=20
>   he is referring to the Guitar
> > viols = by=20 Jonathan Wilson. He
> >
>   makes a cello = model that=20 is actually tuned like like a 5
> > string bass =
>  =20 but it is
> > an octave higher outting it in the = 'cello
> >=20 range'
>  
> >
> >
> > =
>=20 >
> >
> >
> >
> >=20
>  
> >
> >
> > =
> >=20 http://www.tog= amanguitars.com/downloads/index.php
>=20 >
>  
> >
> >
> > =
>=20 >
> >
> >
> >
> >=20
>  
> >
> >
> > =
> >=20 Scroll to the bottom and there is
>   a
> > = video of=20 him playing his guitar
> > cello model. It sounds=20
>   pretty awesome.
> >
> > =
> >=20
> >
> >
> >
>   =
> >=20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =
>=20 >
> >
>  
> >
> > =
>=20 >
> > Todd Matthews
> >
> >
> = >=20
>  
> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM,=20 Zoe
> > Keating
> > <info@zoekeating.com>
> = >=20 wrote:
>  
> >
> >
> > =
>=20 > (what is a cello
> > guitar?)
> > =
>  =20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =
>=20 >
> >
> >
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------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9D944.CBC8AE60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 12:36:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C871B3BE77; Wed, 20 May 2009 12:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xGOFdR6emhvMsxNIaEwronBU3FJi4Q3d1W+cRI7LLow=; b=J6UFjg6ZARa/M98wBMvtxK0420cfblcIwqTHAtIuW7Q49no7cMJ7+DcivZ3MjyBkAW IQoWIkC9dprkjnF1A7d02KEla0OTGtZT5KpgtHfUHSRY9TnXjE3Vv3FgF6gWQPu+Brbo lHeajl++tK9/5cBgkB7EszZ+FPDAtX5kpdP7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gNhciX7LfK62OTJ2OzGGNyH1MtkF2RvZQbMF0cXrU7lyS/UyUpGlkDH+qGHXM6hLGe YdeVaXBBgCZFy+QDQlBA0o/fkyc9sqOxX+/aLz8Wo9Q8E4mcmCTEXcH67jRN1+1b10u7 skDDUJr8xGiqi80hlo5FtbfxT0Sup50McEG0s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <474728.87968.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <474728.87968.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:36:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905200536u36be3dbfwe7bf2cda0ca9369a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anybody here with Quickstar productions? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:36:32 +0000 (UTC) In order to be able to estimate the value of the described offer I looked through the text to find out how much the will pay you and how publishing rights will be handled. They actually want you to pay them! And not a word on publishing rights. In my book this is a scam. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:57 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > Rock 4 Life From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 13:41:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA3783BE7E; Wed, 20 May 2009 13:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=haTv/ursxwUJSpLr+9JSgZ86pdepSJ/3oGNWPROIvEQ=; b=J5DKRnt1FHDtJGAR9VL218byY7zfrgEsAHAC90jKBmXQWL8iDpbusLwKvu6jm1iWRI v7fEskGHWfENRoEhBN//L0S7/fLy5awetZjo1CPKaVKrticeVZ5EyrMGZXKnX/aUtGSe zD6yqv+RnCTjtURn1DCwj8D5bdWFkI3DGxgAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=g532DS6OmeC71WHoDSv5r3EEsmOIIWOeVqoq1xYtCgdrczoVE1BOntfq5iNOcPoXRQ Db9lBVSgWDgHarkKqCtte4TjbflaTlaQRA7AzJXsHb73apPH7QT0I66ncUibIS7wI/Ww BpzakWjtGGblf+iPcpJVvpoz4C2ad46OXcSa4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:41:57 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905200641m31cbbdd2q5f1bbd4e6a1c21f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual gigspam: Jim Goodin - Sunday Morning @ 11 series this weekend From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a723ef26a1046a583059 Resent-Message-ID: <_E_Hn.A.jfH.miAFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:41:58 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a723ef26a1046a583059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a note to mention that my that I will be 'broadcasting' another segment live of my uStream bi-weekly series *Sunday Morning at 11 this Sunday, May 24th, beginning at 11am EST*. I know this hour is early for those of you in California and I am considering moving it at some point. It's a @40 set of improvisations acoustic based around my guitars and oud and loops. The link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. Please tune in if you can. So in London my show will air at 4pm Frankfurt 5pm Sweden 5pm and for others please go here and convert http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Thanks and hope to see you typing hey on Sunday. Have a great weekend folks. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... www.myspace.com/ctreuse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com jimgoodin.bandcamp.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a723ef26a1046a583059 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a note to mention that my that I will be 'broadcasting' anothe= r segment live of my uStream bi-weekly series Sunday Morning at 11 this = Sunday, May 24th, beginning at 11am EST. =A0I know this hour is early f= or those of you in California and I am considering moving it at some point.= =A0It's a @40 set of improvisations acoustic based around my guitars a= nd oud and loops. =A0The link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11= . =A0Please tune in if you can.

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--001636c5a723ef26a1046a583059-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 14:09:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E0B93BE7E; Wed, 20 May 2009 14:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:09:30 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: VSTi Drum loop generator group buy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <810XB.A.Dp.h8AFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:09:37 +0000 (UTC) At 4:03 PM -0700 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >For those of you who've got a thing for cool VSTis for looping, >check this out: > >http://www.hgsounds.com/shop/vst-plugins/black-magic-loop-generatordrum-machine-group-buy PC only. Crap. Well, that seemed a good idea while it lasted.... :P --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 14:14:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 310853BE87; Wed, 20 May 2009 14:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VJ7tet8cl4XlBvAW/vAra32xKrIFjMYm20EmpSrQp6k=; b=ixsxgpuS18/4op/rh/HSCLddi+C06JuyH7bN6D/wwnOntuAd01g6zJFJM60ym6yOJ9 /KL5hyUNpM0VQUFPHPE/+bVJSs6FulX4jJy+2pyW5B85Pd5+U0m6QkhQDY4Nqikp/aER 3aEBwfrL0VwTbKFlIGecajYDHlfmqT/neUat4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DvqjCJ9wSo8uMjkOJyUjoFuCYL1VvU0+HHTj3iudMGoaNf2bfTBP21bsKnyJxWYzPs dJtmZou/08KUrOyoyTpJafyHoWoRA9Bi56/D2MY1aZ7Ojt4FHUHrW0EhmNwt/1V1qQhW ZYVwiEkhhCDP22QfsyJbpuYrupsBV7AQMHNsI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:14:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: VSTi Drum loop generator group buy From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:14:52 +0000 (UTC) I tried to sign up for an account so I can get the lite version but no response. How long did it take to get a reply from them? On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Mech wrote: > At 4:03 PM -0700 5/19/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> For those of you who've got a thing for cool VSTis for looping, check th= is >> out: >> >> >> http://www.hgsounds.com/shop/vst-plugins/black-magic-loop-generatordrum-= machine-group-buy > > PC only. > > Crap. Well, that seemed a good idea while it lasted.... =A0:P > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m. > -- > _____ > "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 14:22:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481E63BE85; Wed, 20 May 2009 14:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002b01c9d956$67b638e0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: Subject: Re: VSTi Drum loop generator group buy Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:22:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:22:28 +0000 (UTC) I signed up to get the free version and the reply was instant. Haven't tried it out yet but it looks interesting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: Re: VSTi Drum loop generator group buy I tried to sign up for an account so I can get the lite version but no response. How long did it take to get a reply from them? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 14:59:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 537223BE86; Wed, 20 May 2009 14:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4A13944E.6060601@dehnhard.com> References: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> <4A13944E.6060601@dehnhard.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <03d1a9443a6d839544ada1b86d06827d@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Newly subscribed! Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:59:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Welcome aboard Steve! You'll find quite a variety of looping experience and technique being shared here. And I'm sure you will bring lots of your own to share with us. Best, Ted > Steve Bingham schrieb: >> I have been wondering if perhaps today was not the best day to >> subscribe to the list (-: To say that my inbox presented me with a >> rich tapestry of postings is to put it mildly..... It did, however, >> make me investigate my mail filtering rules! >> Anyway; here I am. >> Hello to Andy, Mike, Per and anyone else on the list who already >> knows me. >> To all those who don't; I'm a UK-based classically-trained violinist >> who got into looping a few years ago while playing in a group with >> bassist Steve Lawson. I currently do quite a lot of looping in my >> solo gigs, alongside normal acoustic violin repertoire. >> I started off with a succession of hardware loopers - Boss RC20, >> Echoplex, Looperlative - but finally went over to the software side a >> couple of years ago. >> My current main gig setup is; 5-string electric violin by Fidelius. >> SooperLooper within Logic 8 on a MacBook Pro. Gordius Little Giant >> controller. I also use Roland PK5 midi bass pedals. >> My looping at the moment tends to fall into 2 main categories: 1) >> Stuff I've arranged or written: This tends to be either arrangements >> of classical pieces, cover versions of songs, and the odd original >> composition. 2) Stuff other people have written for me: This ranges >> from original looping pieces by a variety of composers, to looping >> arrangements and covers. >> Given a little more free time (sometime this century I hope!) I'd >> like to explore writing more original stuff of my own, and also more >> improvisational looping. >> If you're interested enough in any of this to want to find out more, >> my website is at www.stevebingham.co.uk, where there are sound clips >> and also some live video recordings of some of my looping. >> I look forward to more learning about what you are all doing with >> your looping, and less flaming..... 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 17:14:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5254A3BE79; Wed, 20 May 2009 17:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=1I1OShAZjtXoFp3EGRtRNyteQC0v83g5ASC07nkUP0kAMXjnyAp+HgpJ5M7JmXPDETvN+GGnosNlrwn/1sZfdxMweQ2FkuNtrZvyVTCbkOctvmfeV6htRJgLjBu8pIv+hLowES1W2Gah9UN0EGXiGBRa1uqP464ceWM8n4wLSao= ; X-YMail-OSG: G.ma6S0VM1k7wsDRczybu0PKXEe7rvZ5CnXu82XimWG2HobmpPOq45STVVV7DNG6ALJhBu2Su9Wilg.NjL2.gaH1sD6RAy0WL6YcTrQs7n8zTJkp77Y4j.Ev4dXIq.RUjGKo_5fOmnKzwDSfwB3Mstnh5gNpAeuQoIbCPEX3W6jqbbn4VFl6ska_BxyFiOEoL8has_.kev6navc614IYz8zoG4HYB4NoxZ37dfD4kBgNxqj6t3oV75QeCIeoO9tYb0We2elTRBbSXhN_k4U8mUUFe9qMFV_L_qMu800tCw.mHHWh82TQNQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905200641m31cbbdd2q5f1bbd4e6a1c21f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60905200641m31cbbdd2q5f1bbd4e6a1c21f6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-391987798 Message-Id: <59FF8D51-7F61-4833-AA7D-B10F533A9E9A@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Virtual gigspam: Jim Goodin - Sunday Morning @ 11 series this weekend Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 18:14:36 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:14:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-391987798 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Bugger - i'm working this sunday - good luck Jim! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 20 May 2009, at 14:41, Jim Goodin wrote: > Just a note to mention that my that I will be 'broadcasting' > another segment live of my uStream bi-weekly series Sunday Morning > at 11 this Sunday, May 24th, beginning at 11am EST. I know this > hour is early for those of you in California and I am considering > moving it at some point. It's a @40 set of improvisations acoustic > based around my guitars and oud and loops. The link is http:// > www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. Please tune in if you > can. > > So in London my show will air at 4pm > Frankfurt 5pm > Sweden 5pm > and for others please go here and convert http:// > www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html > > Thanks and hope to see you typing hey on Sunday. Have a great > weekend folks. > > Jim > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > www.myspace.com/ctreuse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > jimgoodin.bandcamp.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-2-391987798 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bugger - i'm working this sunday - good luck Jim!

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 20 May 2009, = at 14:41, Jim Goodin wrote:

Just a = note to mention that my that I will be 'broadcasting' another segment = live of my uStream bi-weekly series Sunday Morning at 11 this Sunday, = May 24th, beginning at 11am EST. =A0I know this hour is early for = those of you in California and I am considering moving it at some point. = =A0It's a @40 set of improvisations acoustic based around my guitars and = oud and loops. =A0The link is http://www.ust= ream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. =A0Please tune in if you = can.

So in London my show will air at = 4pm
Frankfurt 5pm
Sweden 5pm
and for = others please go here and convert=A0http://www.t= imeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
=

Thanks and hope to see you typing hey on Sunday. = =A0Have a great weekend folks.

Jim

--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey = coming soon...
www.myspace.com/ctreuse
= www.chinapaintingmusic.com<= br> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu= sic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu= sic

video work/editing...
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World Bank Assisted Program Directorate of International Payment World Bank united kingdom Good day, It is to bring to your notice that I Mrs Paulina Dean, A worker with The World bank has cashed the check of $4.500 000.00 Million USA Dollars that was awarded to you by the WORLD BANK in the on-going WORLD BANK BEST EMAIL OF THE MONTH PROMOTION. due to expiry and deposited it with FedEx Express Courier Nigeria Branch. contact the Director PERSON/Dr.Mohmo Benson E-mail: undispatchunit.fedexafrica@gmail.com PHONE: +234-7064244414 I have paid them for the delivery, the only money you will pay is their security fee which is $349.99cent to enable them deliver the package to your given address.Reconfirm your info to them and also ask the director to issue the tracking/airway bill once you send them the fee. 1 your full name 2 Your home address 3 Mobile number Update me once you receive your package, Yours Sincerly Mrs. Paulina Dean From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 17:45:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 511693BE7C; Wed, 20 May 2009 17:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 439 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 20 May 2009 17:45:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242841114; bh=Dgby3EL0xEZQROtfIIxT5LqX4DrO+Glj1msCgpgT33U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qx5g12EjqLAJrQt2M55UU/fgBqmNT1uwNtNFi6tDFZAnkjRGGeHNGJLY4gh9bdiso/6xifBn7Bb4wI2rjBpvpO93Apa5C3qc1dTOIuMsXrQO+vVTLfCuMPEZyeMStRcXPwzxa6sovy2wY5XTXGPBDMGZ+i4SuLrgri2rd57nFSg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KOxFafFDVmCw//QFzEYvFMLOzXVVXUmq0h/9mFKWGf22dARMK2Xp9u4eMPJwml2B0w1lLAh5UA+3fIdVMzKphoAqTTJGFwWEGfm3vfFYqFv6E1bb/zpH83jsUfA65qcV1/fGOJEPyTwrB7s1ymGyEj/CTBL51swY61J/HpAFORQ=; Message-ID: <373276.30363.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fbJL2nUVM1ltWcfoUlZxvuNhra4khNE8FzC1xfYGIi.q6xjviNTYTotUfYMdDbhUuN0VH1hzj.PK0ZeLg9Y3sMTYrPAar1V7gPWHte_oxRzXQ3ugavn7VK817BNLBBdAbFzjuJqxz4hzZcj8kKe19ENTMPFsjmxpXi6a3KsY9YpuLlmVTvnriPZMBpJ1Z38YpXEsnkPBaHk2samyBKRCQSQIxVCtTIRX1QgPK7TeO_PLQ.I7LRXTfe6kl0AH4pBTQeSUGkV4VC90eLFdnDZ458Z_uOGlW6BC9qcW1GEPVwzzIxYafxtniEz.BZy3zJFNw8zH.O0_RKwTH0w- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:38:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Subject: Re: Newly subscribed! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:45:58 +0000 (UTC) > Hello to Andy, Mike, Per and anyone else on the list who > already knows me. Hi Steve. Welcome to the group. > Best wishes to all, > Steve > > Steve Bingham > www.stevebingham.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 17:56:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F4BC3BE84; Wed, 20 May 2009 17:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "eterogeneo" To: References: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> Subject: Re: Newly subscribed! Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:56:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi Steve, I had listening to your stuff some weeks ago on your web site. Usually this list is a good place for interesting discussion and nice guys (...so the exception confirms the rule) Welcome on board. Fabio www.livelooping.it www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bingham" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Newly subscribed! >I have been wondering if perhaps today was not the best day to > subscribe to the list (-: To say that my inbox presented me with a > rich tapestry of postings is to put it mildly..... It did, however, > make me investigate my mail filtering rules! > > Anyway; here I am. > > Hello to Andy, Mike, Per and anyone else on the list who already knows > me. > > To all those who don't; I'm a UK-based classically-trained violinist > who got into looping a few years ago while playing in a group with > bassist Steve Lawson. I currently do quite a lot of looping in my solo > gigs, alongside normal acoustic violin repertoire. > > I started off with a succession of hardware loopers - Boss RC20, > Echoplex, Looperlative - but finally went over to the software side a > couple of years ago. > > My current main gig setup is; 5-string electric violin by Fidelius. > SooperLooper within Logic 8 on a MacBook Pro. Gordius Little Giant > controller. I also use Roland PK5 midi bass pedals. > > My looping at the moment tends to fall into 2 main categories: 1) > Stuff I've arranged or written: This tends to be either arrangements > of classical pieces, cover versions of songs, and the odd original > composition. 2) Stuff other people have written for me: This ranges > from original looping pieces by a variety of composers, to looping > arrangements and covers. > > Given a little more free time (sometime this century I hope!) I'd like > to explore writing more original stuff of my own, and also more > improvisational looping. > > If you're interested enough in any of this to want to find out more, > my website is at www.stevebingham.co.uk, where there are sound clips > and also some live video recordings of some of my looping. > > I look forward to more learning about what you are all doing with your > looping, and less flaming..... (-: > > Best wishes to all, > Steve > > Steve Bingham > www.stevebingham.co.uk > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.34/2122 - Release Date: 05/19/09 06:21:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 19:07:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F7C93BE79; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=78Phs7A/jfIbBR0ZZUhXNk9z+DZ0UZsqNykEnTzDjsc=; b=oRq+LlMGFObVoP1zDprXu8AQidwaXsqypuJ1WJ2OknMldigsqQwErcmIg8pnOoU0rt Xbdn3kZv5x//XJ5RzZukbVnj2tz4ONlqKBWbseJhhZJj9I+BaTNfJBiOO5oOa7DCzJLZ 4uq82dr4raWiTCTyGlk4TyrmgBaIE1s7z91aM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WYjhGJkDq2un/A7GbfkIn8xUcHoeycqfaC0BFtdhtymUqV9iYX2xEW729j8RuApRw6 ZtlOFpx27m011ZzJnBu/pXg4D+9x2w2cnoJNypYcK5aApdz6zNkYvBJdbuBTFDlESKqS fkEi72iwm5Cnpf/eameOMWM2wwpa5OdkJSHlY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002b01c9d956$67b638e0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <002b01c9d956$67b638e0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:07:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: VSTi Drum loop generator group buy From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Mine happened pretty quickly, if not instantly. Maybe the email went to your spam folder? Also, yeah, PC only. Sadly my mac is not basically a graphics only machine because there are just too many apps like this that I want to use that aren't developed for the Mac OS. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > I signed up to get the free version and the reply was instant. Haven't tr= ied > it out yet but it looks interesting. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM > Subject: Re: VSTi Drum loop generator group buy > > > I tried to sign up for an account so I can get the lite version but no > response. =A0How long did it take to get a reply from them? > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 19:16:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A40B43BE79; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jwe8oImkr/obDVaMt4lpbpsJZxxXKYd7nNgIhux4OgQ=; b=oCuPQhQt5GQVWNw1Wb0HYIywyO9bIoj2EDrTfU2gAN4NPyhuRFbIt8kRR3cl7KHz+1 /9tOtvMQfRjheMupSLilNARSf6QPo25rZdLhhpoI+8sshd6O653k1721MCx8gQqogKiL iuiM697iKuuFMkPwkq3SVGqzOQ8V0YxsDiaGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eAAlh7VJfemyIEP6k376Rqsy6LXeCbQ60t4yBD0f9XKS6lOj0ETTmMwg6L6aMxRsP5 rR1x09GiTay6e1gBFLXYzQ57nR4asm9phBgRpKAB6zD3dmJRdJoV7QWkkAI7v2+uZvl4 q/ngpL58CleNIynaopTbUJQ5fJxGxWb9hQF90= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905200536u36be3dbfwe7bf2cda0ca9369a@mail.gmail.com> References: <474728.87968.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0905200536u36be3dbfwe7bf2cda0ca9369a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:09:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: anybody here with Quickstar productions? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:16:55 +0000 (UTC) If you are asked to shell out a single penny it is a scam. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > In order to be able to estimate the value of the described offer I > looked through the text to find out how much the will pay you and how > publishing rights will be handled. They actually want you to pay them! > And not a word on publishing rights. In my book this is a scam. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:57 AM, L.Angulo wrote: >> Rock 4 Life > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 19:40:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 625923BE79; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242848418; bh=vFxsLDUT2wOKntFfzZWQyP02kVQ/OYNfUpP1pxKnSYg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3rUwh+5WbUNLN1TRDD3WTw3Jz8TDknR2bVZMb5r/yjOv5nhCD7Y4gLaLQFG+JASXOH3RZ81M0K6EvmBA0mBaPtcg4u/rEYAgmMMLvdCnfDlALNko6a9mR3tDqWWM3jUQSqiLBv6burLhRXUzuMNcT321CxEO6Mq8QohO8TeIg9Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Qqno25g2fGh580DJnrAgUsAikye/ghunJMAlXQBAxsV7GVT32lKz4G6VhP6aVaP78/OobUG54PLhbO2B8okksUHN1ajm9AoTG7PTE3KnFAr/bzwZuF6u7BRIUK/1M8fP2I6e9B4QeQIh3KY82g5KlUPCahIoMmZSRJnCNJ6TZHk=; Message-ID: <141911.48270.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:40:18 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: anybody here with Quickstar productions? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:40:19 +0000 (UTC) thanx guys u rock and i love this list!!=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0Awww.myspac= e.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Mark Sottilaro sch= rieb am Mi, 20.5.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Mark Sottilaro = =0A> Betreff: Re: anybody here with Quickstar productions?=0A> An: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009, 12:09=0A> If= you are asked to shell out a=0A> single penny it is a scam.=0A> =0A> On We= d, May 20, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Per Boysen =0A> wrote:=0A>= > In order to be able to estimate the value of the=0A> described offer I= =0A> > looked through the text to find out how much the will=0A> pay you an= d how=0A> > publishing rights will be handled. They actually want=0A> you t= o pay them!=0A> > And not a word on publishing rights. In my book this=0A> = is a scam.=0A> >=0A> > Greetings from Sweden=0A> >=0A> > Per Boysen=0A> > w= ww.boysen.se=0A> > www.perboysen.com=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > On Wed, May 20= , 2009 at 5:57 AM, L.Angulo =0A> wrote:=0A> >> Rock 4 = Life=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 19:43:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B8F43BE79; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2082 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:43:48 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bn6P7jtEeL+02VUznl+XgpAfHrHT6LzNVUZ324Jx38c=; b=KRQdL46ObpHjDnmTNw+DbzUxVpqT/NZpD3qhVttkA3KqH08EoBA6awUn8DldnUfr4F vgTLVlrE7DjZz19xq7wR2jnf/CTLaLXTDbqZg9nEDvYKzhbtUdHT0LHEE+US7CEKX7+c m9iCFTQgf5ZgBGnFcCS+n7SW7L8VLuPK31f+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IkmlcLoVcZ1hkD0VxoMZrINyVs7mfTQC1J06r8OL5SLkb8fZl3LpWlbhF/2ypQvLS9 CD4VaZjojMfHGWe4ZCFFPFY9TzbmKbBwyv2y8IQuRJVPzdH1MyrNm6AsF3fgSo7dRgsL 1XSAydVzgmVC8XYApZLy2/JwAtEsvFFMXBJZ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <141911.48270.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <141911.48270.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:43:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: anybody here with Quickstar productions? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:43:48 +0000 (UTC) No problem. Stuff like this especially chaps my hide. It's enough that we spend out time honing our skills, buying gear and schlepping it around without opportunists preying on us for a little extra cash. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > thanx guys u rock and i love this list!! > cheers > Luis > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Mi, 20.5.2009: > >> Von: Mark Sottilaro >> Betreff: Re: anybody here with Quickstar productions? >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009, 12:09 >> If you are asked to shell out a >> single penny it is a scam. >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Per Boysen >> wrote: >> > In order to be able to estimate the value of the >> described offer I >> > looked through the text to find out how much the will >> pay you and how >> > publishing rights will be handled. They actually want >> you to pay them! >> > And not a word on publishing rights. In my book this >> is a scam. >> > >> > Greetings from Sweden >> > >> > Per Boysen >> > www.boysen.se >> > www.perboysen.com >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:57 AM, L.Angulo >> wrote: >> >> Rock 4 Life >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 19:46:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69A773BE81; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202329471/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.215.43/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.215.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosCAE/7E0pPTtcr/2dsb2JhbAAIzxWECAWIRQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,223,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202329471" Message-ID: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:58:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter. I have one of these to play with for a couple of days, I'm sure it's of interest to quite a few list members. 1) Essentially, it tracks very well indeed. If anything it feels better than the Axon/G50. 2) You do have to play clean, they suggest palm muting at the bridge, which does work well. Don't expect miracles in terms of shredding. 3) Pitch Bend is fixed at 2 semitones. If you try a 2 semitone bend it often retriggers. Bends of one semitone are perfect. So no glissando for Rick. A trill on a semitone doesn't retrigger the synth, but on a tone it does. 4) No controls whatsover, just a 2 position gain switch(which worked ok for me), and a suggestion to use your guitar volume pot. 5)There's a thru output for the guitar signal, didn't test quality but will if anyone asks. 6) No warbling! At least, no warbling on sustained tones. I know exactly which note on my guitar gives the problems to all other devices, and the G2M plays that note with a long sustain till it shuts off. Of course, if you have more than one note ringing at once, by design or haphazardness, then it warbles away. 7) I couldn't trick it into playing ultra low notes by playing just the right chord :-( 8) Range is exactly that of the guitar. Lowest note it will track is low drop D. Highest note is the 24th fret top E. Outside that range....nothing. 9) The power LED doubles as a guitar tuner. Pretty hopeless, the flashing speed decreases as you get nearer the note. It's ok for checking tuning, but as there's no info as to whether you're sharp or flat it's very difficult to use. For the cost of one extra LED it would have been workable. 10) Neat "battery dying" LED. Tells you in advance the battery will die, so you can replace it before gig or recording, (didn't test). 11) Not programmable in any way, fixed midi channel, velocity response, pitch bend rage, no transpose. Overall, I thought this was a pretty neat little device, I didn't check for sure against the Axon/G50 devices, but I reckon the latency is as low as with a hex p/u. If you wanna play rhythmically accurate, use the high notes and transpose if needed. Being mono is something of a disadvantage, as not only chords are ruled out, but also arpeggio type playing. Any questions....I have to pass it on to the owner soon. andy butler ps I also have an RC50 here, so expect some comments on that. It's certainly *not* plug and play :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 19:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4EC3BE7C; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ApzwhUOX8ijB9Pv2m2PwN7lPa8XQpVnZkEmaNfpym00=; b=vYZoVl11ULk9NhuEc6BEODpODe9sb8cjjgzm2maSgp5Uvi5QBxcdQcQ4UXho1q9Ab3 q5/RT6cFBovEmBeEzuhiewLzDNOvnR8t7GZ4rY+KpKXun452ZA3KrEKuvt3T1t9qxD4z siQ2dk7iyHbthiPCjMcxQZlyp9tOj7quXPuRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GbRV3yIZGxkkOHSj4dWiwX/dTNGh8wVcl4a7KpO9JS6xVjsMwFVICqbGKEZxBFZjsK D6PeW55XS6TVs40TzXDD7lEKPLiX47L6K1DDh8mI5yMq6AckNUXWwVOJykWbVIKrlkvk gdOilvXBjZ2D497j/n7CK7UTgyWATvaWnqTtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:57:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:57:53 +0000 (UTC) > 1) Essentially, it tracks very well indeed. If anything it feels better t= han > the Axon/G50. Hm, you've got my attention! > 2) You do have to play clean, they suggest palm muting at the bridge, whi= ch > does work well. Don't > =A0expect miracles in terms of shredding My shredding skills don't track well on a standard electric guitar, so I'm good there. . > 3) Pitch Bend is fixed at 2 semitones. If you try a 2 semitone bend it of= ten > =A0retriggers. Bends of one semitone are perfect. So no glissando for Ric= k. Interesting... I remember I had to reprogram all my synth patches to track +-24 (or was it 12?) on my G50 to get it to track correctly. > =A0A trill on a semitone doesn't retrigger the synth, but on a tone it do= es. I'm not sure what that means... > 4) No controls whatsover, just a 2 position gain switch(which worked ok f= or > me), and a suggestion to > =A0use your guitar volume pot. > 5)There's a thru output for the guitar signal, didn't test quality but wi= ll > if anyone asks. I'd be curious. Would be nice if there was a total hard bypass. > > 6) No warbling! At least, no warbling on sustained tones. I know exactly > which note > =A0on my guitar gives the problems to all other devices, and the G2M play= s > that note with > =A0a long sustain till it shuts off. =A0 =A0Of course, if you have more t= han one > note ringing at once, > by design or haphazardness, then it warbles away. That's awesome. One of my biggest issues is the warbling that happens as a note trails off. > 7) I couldn't trick it into playing ultra low notes by playing just the > right chord :-( =A08) Range is exactly that of the guitar. Lowest note it= will > track is low drop D. Highest note is the 24th fret top E. > =A0Outside that range....nothing. That's fine. Is there any synth that doesn't let you program it's range/octave? > > 9) The power LED doubles as a guitar tuner. Pretty hopeless, the flashing > speed decreases as you get nearer the note. > =A0 It's ok for checking tuning, but as there's no info as to whether you= 're > sharp or flat it's very difficult to use. > =A0 For the cost of one extra LED it would have been workable. > > 10) Neat "battery dying" LED. =A0Tells you in advance the battery will di= e, so > you can replace it before gig or recording, (didn't test). > 11) Not programmable in any way, fixed midi channel, velocity response, > pitch bend rage, no transpose. > > > Overall, I thought this was a pretty neat little device, I didn't check f= or > sure against the Axon/G50 devices, but I reckon the > latency is as low as with a hex p/u. > If you wanna play rhythmically accurate, use the high notes and transpose= if > needed. > > Being mono is something of a disadvantage, as not only chords are ruled o= ut, > but also arpeggio type playing. > > Any questions....I have to pass it on to the owner soon. > Thanks a lot for this. The more I hear about this little device, the more I think it'll be a fun addition to my rig. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 20:00:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A0A03BE80; Wed, 20 May 2009 20:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242849609; bh=WTtVjSgw4sAbNarw9b1KHbCzs3LFIEJ2rhJGWTVltsc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CQeFC7X1F6ydapkUr1B8ACFjG3xH4jJHJI8ztZNPYEdCGRWQJsXEyhD0GOsY2g9FWFT3PzhN4978BliVp1r76C5l6JbcwPfD0nKLoed4SlPnVIPV/K7jBpdVgbWRbxz0Bc54h+/Wv8FdQBfUotfrc1gw/iye6PtIE1en3aTbKwU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SHiYqdxpKY7Z9/z291NReEEQ41ASoSk1k7X0UKs6I3uu5o9j9i0iEboJU19pYscn27dG7i9uM/iUeXoPf8FIUST6EERv5m/9kXj0b5PPJJi8lEG9NHdueI+oq/dUVjM7pzrV8sAhMk11pMFdD7i6L52ojxKQOFB8+49i0xsGzjQ=; Message-ID: <523148.69714.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:00:09 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: anybody here with Quickstar productions? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:00:12 +0000 (UTC) after i asked they did write me telling me that musicians get to keep their= publishing rights and that their concept has worked succesfully since musi= cians help themselves around the world,but it sounded to me like the Amway = concept a pyramid in which everyboby works for the top dudes...=0Awww.myspa= ce.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Mark Sottilaro sc= hrieb am Mi, 20.5.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Mark Sottilaro = =0A> Betreff: Re: anybody here with Quickstar productions?=0A> An: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009, 12:43=0A> No= problem.=A0 Stuff like this=0A> especially chaps my hide. It's enough=0A> = that we spend out time honing our skills, buying gear and=0A> schlepping=0A= > it around without opportunists preying on us for a little=0A> extra cash.= =0A> =0A> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM, L.Angulo = =0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> > thanx guys u rock and i love this list!!=0A> > chee= rs=0A> > Luis=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >=0A> >= =0A> > --- Mark Sottilaro =0A> schrieb am Mi, 20.5.= 2009:=0A> >=0A> >> Von: Mark Sottilaro =0A> >> Betr= eff: Re: anybody here with Quickstar=0A> productions?=0A> >> An: Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com=0A> >> Datum: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009, 12:09=0A> >= > If you are asked to shell out a=0A> >> single penny it is a scam.=0A> >>= =0A> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Per Boysen = =0A> >> wrote:=0A> >> > In order to be able to estimate the value of=0A> th= e=0A> >> described offer I=0A> >> > looked through the text to find out how= much=0A> the will=0A> >> pay you and how=0A> >> > publishing rights will b= e handled. They=0A> actually want=0A> >> you to pay them!=0A> >> > And not = a word on publishing rights. In my=0A> book this=0A> >> is a scam.=0A> >> >= =0A> >> > Greetings from Sweden=0A> >> >=0A> >> > Per Boysen=0A> >> > www.b= oysen.se=0A> >> > www.perboysen.com=0A> >> >=0A> >> >=0A> >> >=0A> >> > On = Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:57 AM, L.Angulo=0A> =0A> >> wro= te:=0A> >> >> Rock 4 Life=0A> >> >=0A> >> >=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >= =0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 20:04:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 870623BE86; Wed, 20 May 2009 20:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090520200423841.CD6C47000088@mwinf3513.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: <6582F861-01F9-484C-9CE1-ABDD497EB805@con-brio.com> From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:04:25 +0100 References: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:04:25 +0000 (UTC) I've always wondered if any of these midi converters would work on a violin, but have never had one to try: Do you reckon it could be made to fit in any way Andy? Steve On 20 May 2009, at 20:58, andy butler wrote: > Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter. > > I have one of these to play with for a couple of days, > I'm sure it's of interest to quite a few list members. > > 1) Essentially, it tracks very well indeed. If anything it feels > better than the Axon/G50. > 2) You do have to play clean, they suggest palm muting at the > bridge, which does work well. Don't > expect miracles in terms of shredding. > 3) Pitch Bend is fixed at 2 semitones. If you try a 2 semitone bend > it often retriggers. Bends of one semitone are perfect. So no > glissando for Rick. > A trill on a semitone doesn't retrigger the synth, but on a tone it > does. > 4) No controls whatsover, just a 2 position gain switch(which worked > ok for me), and a suggestion to > use your guitar volume pot. > 5)There's a thru output for the guitar signal, didn't test quality > but will if anyone asks. > > 6) No warbling! At least, no warbling on sustained tones. I know > exactly which note > on my guitar gives the problems to all other devices, and the G2M > plays that note with > a long sustain till it shuts off. Of course, if you have more > than one note ringing at once, > by design or haphazardness, then it warbles away. > 7) I couldn't trick it into playing ultra low notes by playing just > the right chord :-( 8) Range is exactly that of the guitar. Lowest > note it will track is low drop D. Highest note is the 24th fret top E. > Outside that range....nothing. > > 9) The power LED doubles as a guitar tuner. Pretty hopeless, the > flashing speed decreases as you get nearer the note. > It's ok for checking tuning, but as there's no info as to whether > you're sharp or flat it's very difficult to use. > For the cost of one extra LED it would have been workable. > > 10) Neat "battery dying" LED. Tells you in advance the battery will > die, so you can replace it before gig or recording, (didn't test). > 11) Not programmable in any way, fixed midi channel, velocity > response, pitch bend rage, no transpose. > > > Overall, I thought this was a pretty neat little device, I didn't > check for sure against the Axon/G50 devices, but I reckon the > latency is as low as with a hex p/u. > If you wanna play rhythmically accurate, use the high notes and > transpose if needed. > > Being mono is something of a disadvantage, as not only chords are > ruled out, but also arpeggio type playing. > > Any questions....I have to pass it on to the owner soon. > > andy butler > ps > I also have an RC50 here, so expect some comments on that. > It's certainly *not* plug and play :-) > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 20:21:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBC243BE88; Wed, 20 May 2009 20:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IM/Ci9pTHkW3hYlHUhYpDVKAU/40G2JB047RfUStlL8=; b=eDCZKm0UojEdtwBQdD/IIpyCgu951j7uog448pjhRv7AP1cnglpYSicE4yO9qxyxEG No2SPFPheWnNQN+fxQOmQJK6KjddhaZ5ljakwb7b6X6PeRprciVhNS8q5aPtxc9fXj12 dus8YCj4urbfe3Q3exVDAFCjllzMEN1VCMrTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tmirQrLLaQHchgZDq0f+eiCYVE6qXHPrwepEJ8TK+hjrL9Q3Gdb99dqNSql0y7MZ6b CWFTbKvsE/UnQ7u9jRA0//oKKPeVVJlyR1SswnE0mSF1+BlYa9bkazvDxdwS6PSNDmpu iMb/+E/KC1fKRBhqJzny8ncVYyYhnmYoLf5mA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:21:38 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905201321l5abcbc85x8b2076129c618708@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New videos from "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" online From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4-ilcD.A.n9B.UZGFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Please find a few excerpts from last Saturday's video streaming performance online on my vimeo account at www.vimeo.com/moinlabs. Part 1: http://vimeo.com/4691258 Part 2: http://vimeo.com/4751829 Part 3: http://vimeo.com/4752452 The end of Part 3 actually features a looping-free trombone solo - go figure. Love that System6000 reverb algorithm in my audio interface... Please note that this series of video-streamed performance will turn into a bi-weekly event called "The MoinSound Studio Session". Starting May 30th, this will be on Saturday in every even calendar week at 1600 UTC. Best, Rainer ps: In case you wonder - yep, there's use both of EDP-sytle feedback and unrounded multiply --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 20:22:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 284243BE8D; Wed, 20 May 2009 20:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 198990208/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.215.43/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.215.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosCAIMDFEpPTtcr/2dsb2JhbAAIzwOECAWIRQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,223,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="198990208" Message-ID: <4A146950.9070804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:34:24 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter References: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro wrote: > . >> 3) Pitch Bend is fixed at 2 semitones. If you try a 2 semitone bend it often >> retriggers. Bends of one semitone are perfect. So no glissando for Rick. > > Interesting... I remember I had to reprogram all my synth patches to > track +-24 (or was it 12?) on my G50 to get it to track correctly. + - 12 > >> A trill on a semitone doesn't retrigger the synth, but on a tone it does. > > I'm not sure what that means... the semitone trill is accomplished with pitch bend info, so the synth envelope isn't triggered. whole tone trills trigger on every note of the trill >> 5)There's a thru output for the guitar signal, didn't test quality but will >> if anyone asks. > > I'd be curious. Would be nice if there was a total hard bypass. It couldn't be a total hard bypass, there's no bypass switch. I'll give it a whirl tommorow tho', to see how it sounds. > >> 6) No warbling! At least, no warbling on sustained tones. I know exactly >> which note >> on my guitar gives the problems to all other devices, and the G2M plays >> that note with >> a long sustain till it shuts off. Of course, if you have more than one >> note ringing at once, >> by design or haphazardness, then it warbles away. > > That's awesome. One of my biggest issues is the warbling that happens > as a note trails off. yes, they really nailed that one. Often there's notes on a guitar where the fundamental dies before the other harmonics, throws most pitch tracking algorithms into confusion, but the G2M can't be fooled by it. >> Range is exactly that of the guitar. Lowest note it will >> track is low drop D. Highest note is the 24th fret top E. >> Outside that range....nothing. > > That's fine. Is there any synth that doesn't let you program it's > range/octave? indeed, but it would be an issue with bass players I think ...and NST guitarists >> >> Any questions....I have to pass it on to the owner soon. >> > > Thanks a lot for this. The more I hear about this little device, the > more I think it'll be a fun addition to my rig. > > I'll compare it to the G50 mono socket tomorrow too, but I don't have a hex p/u on a guitar at the moment. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 21:06:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54C693BE7F; Wed, 20 May 2009 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_45bd58fd-489c-4002-8c27-cbbff874d351_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: New videos from "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" online Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:06:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905201321l5abcbc85x8b2076129c618708@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905201321l5abcbc85x8b2076129c618708@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2009 21:06:14.0832 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF99DB00:01C9D98E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) --_45bd58fd-489c-4002-8c27-cbbff874d351_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer=2C I would LOVE to see this but Vimeo says that "this is a private video" (I d= on't now if "private" videos is something I want to see or not.... kins of = depends =3B)=20 =20 Anyway=2C is it enough to get some sort of free account (and are the videos= safe for work.... ) =20 Anders=20 > Date: Wed=2C 20 May 2009 22:21:38 +0200 > Subject: New videos from "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" online > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Please find a few excerpts from last Saturday's video streaming > performance online on my vimeo account at www.vimeo.com/moinlabs. >=20 > Part 1: http://vimeo.com/4691258 > Part 2: http://vimeo.com/4751829 > Part 3: http://vimeo.com/4752452 >=20 > The end of Part 3 actually features a looping-free trombone solo - go > figure. Love that System6000 reverb algorithm in my audio interface... >=20 > Please note that this series of video-streamed performance will turn > into a bi-weekly event called "The MoinSound Studio Session". Starting > May 30th=2C this will be on Saturday in every even calendar week at 1600 > UTC. >=20 > Best=2C >=20 > Rainer >=20 > ps: In case you wonder - yep=2C there's use both of EDP-sytle feedback > and unrounded multiply >=20 > --- > http://moinlabs.de > http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs > http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ > http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=3D117329 >=20 --_45bd58fd-489c-4002-8c27-cbbff874d351_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer=2C

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= --_45bd58fd-489c-4002-8c27-cbbff874d351_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 22:28:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A7A83BE79; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QG3+YGxXYgUKI39aPdS3xak/5RTyfvge0Ef4DeWluWk=; b=q5IRRMzIU9o7yTA8fOHxEMUVqI0Y4+56O1GGsFLEqXWm4krkNfH6E6GaHaIbGdUOaX 7qnobX9ejG3z+wFGnEQzdi9T6S1MSHS9dUDhhl2Wkm9HxWjo3fav9tzIBa41oHSY8RRr OONVZQapMnVaIKO2d2wi+6vyxoP3lO2NVadL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DFHqapyz5cRe+YALE9u30vEeaHtyzsgAVks89NOV9Fa4DE/XOyYkCVC30LxfRGXBxm en5jwls0YvrFEyoJAzFv2zHlt8Kb94NZGhAy9s8E2bhUZz5Evot5dXzDJVAzFIJdeeJP ePMyfq31vhYWSQxDwX7K3aTtGtDw6PfTgGvn4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:28:05 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905201528q558a76b5o8b671c1345e1fb83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: New videos from The MoinSound Studio Sessions online From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Anders said: "I would LOVE to see this but Vimeo says that "this is a private video"" Thanks for bringing that to my attention, Anders. Should be fixed by now. And yes, it's enough to get a free account - you don't even need any sort of account - whether it's "safe for work" is obviously not for me to judge ;) Thanks, Rainer ps: you'll also find them in my http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs blog. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 22:38:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF1AF3BE7F; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d3d1a737-ea31-483b-bcce-9c2cb22e8fce_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: New videos from The MoinSound Studio Sessions online Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:38:26 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905201528q558a76b5o8b671c1345e1fb83@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905201528q558a76b5o8b671c1345e1fb83@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2009 22:38:26.0269 (UTC) FILETIME=[B09828D0:01C9D99B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:38:26 +0000 (UTC) --_d3d1a737-ea31-483b-bcce-9c2cb22e8fce_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Works now.. kool I suppose it's a software looper?? or two EDP's....=20 =20 Listning to part 2 now...=20 =20 > Date: Thu=2C 21 May 2009 00:28:05 +0200 > Subject: RE: New videos from The MoinSound Studio Sessions online > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Anders said: > "I would LOVE to see this but Vimeo says that "this is a private video"" >=20 > Thanks for bringing that to my attention=2C Anders. >=20 > Should be fixed by now. And yes=2C it's enough to get a free account - > you don't even need any sort of account - whether it's "safe for work" > is obviously not for me to judge =3B) >=20 > Thanks=2C >=20 > Rainer >=20 > ps: you'll also find them in my http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs blog. >=20 --_d3d1a737-ea31-483b-bcce-9c2cb22e8fce_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Works now.. kool I suppose it's a software looper?? or two EDP's.... = =3B
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Listning to part 2 now...
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>=3B Date: Thu=2C 21 May 2009 0= 0:28:05 +0200
>=3B Subject: RE: New videos from The MoinSound Studio S= essions online
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>=3B Anders said:
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>=3B Thanks for bringing that to my attention=2C Anders.
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>=3B Should be fixed by now. And yes=2C it's enough to get a fr= ee account -
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>=3B Rainer
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>=3B p= s: you'll also find them in my http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs blog.
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= --_d3d1a737-ea31-483b-bcce-9c2cb22e8fce_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 22:43:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E31833BE7E; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HcGui150qklZqU06t5oVuAl/0FrC6K4vFtRmP3S0XbI=; b=BFjsIvRmtkh37MTMGqfcl2yhn7ZyT243TlJqc39dhSpMiXW0sX+lInKGmAOVF5zIyZ iyHyq8tfq1iB0yKgY3Aon6yDOTYCcrnG2OZd2n1jbzrmohxihmln7Iavm3KW0axae9wM mnWtoVMMm8ZIZmMqXF0/DMwfr/1N2Mqf2cAyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=O3CFzq9S89ghgyQQ44qAwUalWWlWmyti+UeX0k/URYnE3Acb0v3hq96TOIpswmT1Wf ebhABsbnKdgvVcE5dZjUV2E8JG+FQpmXVbKE4N/ne0XT/nhDaxERhuLOj57BesWD2iHH Qezau9tUOyoh5C2SDUdFyA54aGZB003eLldcw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:43:37 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905201543h1dd4d6cchda04a3f005add8d0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: The rig for "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" (was: New videos from The MoinSound Studio Sessions online) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:43:38 +0000 (UTC) > Works now.. kool I suppose it's a software looper?? or two EDP's.... I already said alot on this light in great detail about my rig, so I'll spare the rest of you the ugly details... In short: HW - computer, Konnekt24D interface, wireless mics/headphones (AKG), FCB1010, BCR2000, trombone SW - Ableton Live (version 6) as plugin host/software mixer, Mobius as looper, lots of plugins... This is how it looks packed up: http://moinlabs.de/images/external/CR_New.jpg Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 22:46:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4E43BE81; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=p3LMPoHDWBK/Ax3JOe3HyOQGBc5QJ7jJlvJQVJ9HdHs=; b=BR+v/FnkbHL2aB4GFoamuLwNR21mpz23FHbnfJEbbaAHQloyYL0sPYDTPzjrW0tpl5 VNplMSwcJ0E24rQzhyccmCUO/f+pDfTc9wFZ4f9eYDeVxGvzHgVGOWXF0/A5V/xEyOF9 OzbQMVqA/iMrbGTu1DKiwTfzv9LvEvGPBKjq0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=frDcHqao/uu89F973rmgqvM/oFNYjLk70TAWkiAFc1WCwqs4dIWpozqoHR66eQCfZs mnwlST5aTi03Ha2fdrfAOyeMDuxrcDpuwuisrsszRqhQMUIhOPKUMYCXg0l70eAuhXCt H2emXcToWQ4GLbvkziM8UPxPMhWUG6qiB8h4k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A146950.9070804@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> <4A146950.9070804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:46:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Thanks again for this! On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:34 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> . >>> >>> 3) Pitch Bend is fixed at 2 semitones. If you try a 2 semitone bend it >>> often >>> =A0retriggers. Bends of one semitone are perfect. So no glissando for R= ick. >> >> Interesting... I remember I had to reprogram all my synth patches to >> track +-24 (or was it 12?) on my G50 to get it to track correctly. > > + - 12 >> >>> =A0A trill on a semitone doesn't retrigger the synth, but on a tone it >>> does. >> >> I'm not sure what that means... > > the semitone trill is accomplished with pitch bend info, > so the synth envelope isn't triggered. > > whole tone trills trigger on every note of the trill > > >>> 5)There's a thru output for the guitar signal, didn't test quality but >>> will >>> if anyone asks. >> >> I'd be curious. =A0Would be nice if there was a total hard bypass. > > It couldn't be a total hard bypass, there's no bypass switch. > I'll give it a whirl tommorow tho', > to see how it sounds. > >> >>> 6) No warbling! At least, no warbling on sustained tones. I know exactl= y >>> which note >>> =A0on my guitar gives the problems to all other devices, and the G2M pl= ays >>> that note with >>> =A0a long sustain till it shuts off. =A0 =A0Of course, if you have more= than >>> one >>> note ringing at once, >>> by design or haphazardness, then it warbles away. >> >> That's awesome. =A0One of my biggest issues is the warbling that happens >> as a note trails off. > > yes, they really nailed that one. > Often there's notes on a guitar where the fundamental dies before > the other harmonics, throws most pitch tracking algorithms into confusion= , > but the G2M can't be fooled by it. > >>> Range is exactly that of the guitar. Lowest note it will >>> track is low drop D. Highest note is the 24th fret top E. >>> =A0Outside that range....nothing. >> >> That's fine. =A0Is there any synth that doesn't let you program it's >> range/octave? > > indeed, > but it would be an issue with bass players I think > ...and NST guitarists > > >>> >>> Any questions....I have to pass it on to the owner soon. >>> >> >> Thanks a lot for this. =A0The more I hear about this little device, the >> more I think it'll be a fun addition to my rig. >> >> > > I'll compare it to the G50 mono socket tomorrow too, but I don't have > a hex p/u on a guitar at the moment. > > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 22:51:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76A5F3BE8C; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_06968521-8f07-4439-93ff-305d925ed4b2_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: The rig for "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" (was: New videos from The MoinSound Studio Sessions online) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:51:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905201543h1dd4d6cchda04a3f005add8d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905201543h1dd4d6cchda04a3f005add8d0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2009 22:51:24.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[804EA3A0:01C9D99D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:51:24 +0000 (UTC) --_06968521-8f07-4439-93ff-305d925ed4b2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ohh sorry I remeber those touring rig posts a while back... Since i work in= the software business I avoid software as much as I can... Maybe I will ne= ed to rethink that.. =20 > Date: Thu=2C 21 May 2009 00:43:37 +0200 > Subject: The rig for "The MoinSound Studio Sessions" (was: New videos fro= m The MoinSound Studio Sessions online) > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > Works now.. kool I suppose it's a software looper?? or two EDP's.... >=20 > I already said alot on this light in great detail about my rig=2C so > I'll spare the rest of you the ugly details... > In short: HW - computer=2C Konnekt24D interface=2C wireless > mics/headphones (AKG)=2C FCB1010=2C BCR2000=2C trombone > SW - Ableton Live (version 6) as plugin host/software > mixer=2C Mobius as looper=2C lots of plugins... >=20 > This is how it looks packed up: > http://moinlabs.de/images/external/CR_New.jpg >=20 > Rainer >=20 --_06968521-8f07-4439-93ff-305d925ed4b2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ohh sorry =3BI remeber those touring =3Brig posts a while back... S= ince i work in the software business =3BI avoid software as much as I c= an... Maybe =3BI will need to rethink that..
 =3B
>=3B Date= : Thu=2C 21 May 2009 00:43:37 +0200
>=3B Subject: The rig for "The Moi= nSound Studio Sessions" (was: New videos from The MoinSound Studio Sessions= online)
>=3B From: moinsound@googlemail.com
>=3B To: loopers-del= ight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Works now.. kool I sup= pose it's a software looper?? or two EDP's....
>=3B
>=3B I alrea= dy said alot on this light in great detail about my rig=2C so
>=3B I'l= l spare the rest of you the ugly details...
>=3B In short: HW - comput= er=2C Konnekt24D interface=2C wireless
>=3B mics/headphones (AKG)=2C F= CB1010=2C BCR2000=2C trombone
>=3B SW - Ableton Live (version 6) as pl= ugin host/software
>=3B mixer=2C Mobius as looper=2C lots of plugins..= .
>=3B
>=3B This is how it looks packed up:
>=3B http://moi= nlabs.de/images/external/CR_New.jpg
>=3B
>=3B Rainer
>=3B <= BR> = --_06968521-8f07-4439-93ff-305d925ed4b2_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 23:07:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 274BC3BE87; Wed, 20 May 2009 23:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 444 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 20 May 2009 23:07:28 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ojgPxeHcATr+GG8bYxxrzjnQeEZ8TGipWt8pbMUHDU4=; b=XFFx65y2asTG9LL7pRLvBRcCLOTuCZMvUPCAesj6pSVxXFNOW99pwoZmsShFpUbVFS J4IQIuh2nJH60FuAaWGsdlS/s9MEVjECxFyJXvhPusGorXMyAqpVvRDOfvKs9Lr8OCao jzMl1lK1iUci0qcZSg02Et7KPKfVEkGWqYJUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xpS7zHXwSDg2xY7SmMTXwY/ZMkQYZXsZ1E5eQOWb62UlI+VdWNHjQwiourY92tqmiY oSAoXJnmFh/ZJR4ac8yKuY/y63RZCMsryOyDw4Ndu7+ODFHYK6Ile/wW8BKU6Jc90drV qejGNXNy73wh06XXJRm3ke+5LdyU80+/gmsbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> <4A146950.9070804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:00:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:07:29 +0000 (UTC) .. ah - i'm NST and warr player ... cruel world! 2009/5/21, Mark Sottilaro : > Thanks again for this! > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:34 PM, andy butler wro= te: >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >>> . >>>> >>>> 3) Pitch Bend is fixed at 2 semitones. If you try a 2 semitone bend it >>>> often >>>> =A0retriggers. Bends of one semitone are perfect. So no glissando for >>>> Rick. >>> >>> Interesting... I remember I had to reprogram all my synth patches to >>> track +-24 (or was it 12?) on my G50 to get it to track correctly. >> >> + - 12 >>> >>>> =A0A trill on a semitone doesn't retrigger the synth, but on a tone it >>>> does. >>> >>> I'm not sure what that means... >> >> the semitone trill is accomplished with pitch bend info, >> so the synth envelope isn't triggered. >> >> whole tone trills trigger on every note of the trill >> >> >>>> 5)There's a thru output for the guitar signal, didn't test quality but >>>> will >>>> if anyone asks. >>> >>> I'd be curious. =A0Would be nice if there was a total hard bypass. >> >> It couldn't be a total hard bypass, there's no bypass switch. >> I'll give it a whirl tommorow tho', >> to see how it sounds. >> >>> >>>> 6) No warbling! At least, no warbling on sustained tones. I know exact= ly >>>> which note >>>> =A0on my guitar gives the problems to all other devices, and the G2M p= lays >>>> that note with >>>> =A0a long sustain till it shuts off. =A0 =A0Of course, if you have mor= e than >>>> one >>>> note ringing at once, >>>> by design or haphazardness, then it warbles away. >>> >>> That's awesome. =A0One of my biggest issues is the warbling that happen= s >>> as a note trails off. >> >> yes, they really nailed that one. >> Often there's notes on a guitar where the fundamental dies before >> the other harmonics, throws most pitch tracking algorithms into confusio= n, >> but the G2M can't be fooled by it. >> >>>> Range is exactly that of the guitar. Lowest note it will >>>> track is low drop D. Highest note is the 24th fret top E. >>>> =A0Outside that range....nothing. >>> >>> That's fine. =A0Is there any synth that doesn't let you program it's >>> range/octave? >> >> indeed, >> but it would be an issue with bass players I think >> ...and NST guitarists >> >> >>>> >>>> Any questions....I have to pass it on to the owner soon. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks a lot for this. =A0The more I hear about this little device, the >>> more I think it'll be a fun addition to my rig. >>> >>> >> >> I'll compare it to the G50 mono socket tomorrow too, but I don't have >> a hex p/u on a guitar at the moment. >> >> >> andy >> >> > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 20 23:53:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B124D3BE84; Wed, 20 May 2009 23:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mS61xLGStknOC6PkbqxyPxtkEVMTWqrusBs8QKJHqi4=; b=oKiBF2cBitlUjzTYAVbDP2bPyTb+fw5QVQIdidTZ9+psWT7e7z9+jpwrZDr0GSb+pT H0XctrDjJxburrhTvl08ip2fFmivCNKcUZNjrei5pZu/rjEFjKN8cWSxHx6b3Twc3P2O J42R863d8GWcmsS1b57lzsmwg/QxWtNo/8OY0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dhyN0ZcpFPOyoHYP+vi2z6IbUgJzrrTLonO39+SXBX5nXtAv9WgvAI+oT0jiD/l18Y Zk1p4RXghyM6MlefgHK5G9ZRBsj1kfU4cq3KTJHZBw65I2bHCPEbq9SiHpAcOgZOh1uZ L+5KmZDmZKBkorkK6d0fYHVEh5xlp1OLXw4gc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:53:51 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905201653m7fc0731ewd019acdda99c223d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Davis' modal stuff From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Warning: I lost track of what I wanted to say in the first place halfway during the following message - feel free to ignore! Rainer Rick said (in that "book turned 100% feedback" thread): "Davis embraced modalism because it finally gave the soloist control over determining harmony as opposed to the comping instruments or the 'tune'" I'll start by stating that for me, "Kind of Blue" is one of the most overrated works in music (together with the entire catalogue of W.A. Mozart, the later Richard Strau=DF operas, anything by Django Reinhart (sp?) and the majority of Jarret's solo work, to name just a few things). Now that I've gotten your attention ;) There had been, at that time in jazz, different approaches in trying to, as Rick puts it, "give the soloist control". One of them was the modal approach, which basically was bebop with fewer chord changes. Another approach, and in my opinion a much more powerful one, was that of Ornette Coleman, namely to throw out any harmony instruments altogether. This brought the harmony-based structure of jazz down to its essential building blocks: the superposed two-voiced structure, as apparent in the (non-polyphonic and two-voiced polyphonic) work of J.S.Bach. At any given moment, both soloist and bass player would make a statement in continuing their individual melody lines. Each resulting interval could then be seen as defining a chord, and be understood that way be either player, but not necessarily equally (as this is an under-determined concept). (It is noteworthy that in his later work in that period, Coleman would move away more from this "underlying harmony" concept - but it is present a lot on albums as e.g. "This is our music"). Davis himself chose another, much more stripped down of his "bebop with fewer changes" approach, and that made sense. To quote from the liner notes to Agharta: "I would try exploring one chord with this band, one chord in a tune, getting everyone to master these small little simple things like rhythm". Obviously, Davis at that point had left the concept of harmonic progression, already stripped down on "Kind of Blue", left behind completely. What always strikes me as odd that during this period of his work, Davis would most of the time work with two to three chord instruments (first keyboards, then guitars). So, there's the concept of reducing harmony to only one chord - by using three harmony players. Or to have highly plurivalent harmonies - by using no harmony player at all. It's interesting to see that for the jazz world, the only one of those three approaches which had a lasting and widespread impact was that of the modal playing. It's obvious that a concept of only one chord does not work well with the still very bop-influenced (in its use of drums and bass) jazz mainstream. As for the superposed two-voicedness, this simply puts a huge challenge on the bass player (and on the horn player as well), so a lot of people simply don't seem to be willing to rise to it. And finally, it took more than twenty years for Davis' Seventies approach to resurface in some (albeit still mostly percieved "intellectual") works - Laswell, Kaiser etc. Perhaps another decade later... Rainer ps: "Dark Magus" is the Davis album to get! And of course, check out the "Masqualero" version on "Black Beauty". Davis doesn't hit one single not correctly - but it doesn't matter. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 04:27:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 188F13BE81; Thu, 21 May 2009 04:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 21 May 2009 04:27:10 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:21:27 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: New Video on You Tube/Photo Essays on Flickr Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <2FISIB.A.NEB.egNFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 04:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I have some new work to share. "Ice Fantasy" is a meditative visual music collaboration with guitarist/composer Mike Marando. The source footage was shot over two afternoons on some conservation land off of Rice Road in the town of Wayland, MA. Most of the shots were taken at a single spot where a narrow creek passes under a makeshift footbridge. The video processing was done with filters that I designed and wrote as part of my 'day job' at Boris Fx. I created four sketches (also viewable on my You Tube channel) and sent them to Mike on DVD. He created music for the four sketches and sent it back to me. I decided to use two of the four sketches (Colors and Cartoon), combined these two sketches, made a few edits and completed the piece. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ndIs0G9DQ "One Minute of Sky" is a photo essay based on images I took before work on May 15. I like to bring my camera on days I work at the office -- taking a few pictures is a nice start to the day. The office is located in a generic suburban office park, and I usually photograph trees near where I park, I was running late the day I took the original shots for "One Minute of Sky", and was going to skip the photography -- until I looked up at the sky. I quickly shot off about two dozen shots, which became the basis for this photo-essay. I played with a lot of the images in Photoshop -- making especial use of the Boss Emboss filter from Flaming Pear. When I looked at the timestamps for the original images, I realized that it had taken me less than a minute to take them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157618418729931/ I've always been fascinated by the abstract patterns created by glass bricks -- the interplay between reflected and transmitted light and the distortions created by the complex refraction in the brick make the images pretty psychedelic without need of Photoshoppery. "Brandeis Glass Bricks" contains pictures that were taken on a fine day in a building on the Brandeis campus -- I don't recall which one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157618392493546/ Sometimes when I clean the mirror in our downstairs bathroom, sunlight coming in the side door, bouncing off the bathroom door and then hitting the mirror, makes the abstract patterns of detergent on mirror seem magical. The images in "Cleaning the Bathroom Mirror" were taken during one such cleaning session. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157618304435437/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 04:27:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 265DC3BE87; Thu, 21 May 2009 04:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:25:31 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 04:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing Friday with The Frenette / Rohr / McLellan Trio at the lovely119 Gallery 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 8PM http://www.119gallery.org/ Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. Kevin Frenette (guitar) James Rohr (fender rhodes) John McLellan (drums) Two audio tracks from the Frenette / Rohr / McLellan Trio are available here: http://www.myspace.com/kevinfrenette "Kevin Frenette's cd 'Connections' is a dazzling display of sympathetic interactions with truly spontaneous results. Frenette and company combine for a powerful force of open-minded creative energy." --- John Barron/JazzReview.com Boston area guitarist Kevin Frenette has performed throughout the Northeast USA making music that is inspired by both avant-garde jazz and contemporary improvisation. He studied guitar, composition, and music theory at UMASS-Dartmouth where he received a BA in Theory/Composition. He has performed and/or recorded with such artists as Tatsuya Nakatani, Jack Wright, Joe Giardullo, Pandelis Karayorgis, Daniel Levin, Andy McWain, Forbes Graham, Luther Gray, Jane Wang, James Rohr, Curt Newton, John McLellan, Croix Galipault, Gordon Allen, Sarah Weaver, Harvey Sorgen, Brian Melick, Michael Snow, Dan DeChellis, Gwen Laster, Larry Packer, Martha Colby, Lori Freedman, David Gamper, Al Margolis, Ryan McGuire, Jeff Kimmel, Adam Dotson, Joe Moffett, Chris Vellieux, Ricardo Donoso, Jules Vasylenko, Jonathan LaMaster, Andrew Hickman, Eric Platz, Todd Keating and Gabe Cabral. In 2007, Fuller Street Music released Kevin's first date as a leader: CONNECTIONS. That album featured Frenette with Tatsuya Nakatani on percussion, Andy McWain on piano and Todd Keating on bass. James Rohr has been wrestling with the piano since the age of 5. Sometimes he tries to play all 88 keys at once, sometimes just a few. He began playing professionally at 14 at a BBQ joint in New Mexico where he played a piano for ribs. In the mid 1990's, James formed a piano trio with Nate Mcbride on bass, and Curt Newton on drums. Together they released three recordings that a few people in Europe and Canada heard. James has had the honor and privelige of playing with many of the great improvisors in the Boston/NYC area. Currently, James is interested in writing and performing songs with his band, the blue ribbons, which he describes as Ray Charles and Johnny Cash meet Captain Beefheart and Sun Ra. John McLellan was born in San Juan, Puerto Rico and raised in Massachusetts; his resume is expansive and varied, including work with Joe and Mat Maneri, Roswell Rudd, Bern Nix, Roy Campbell, William Parker, Ken Vandermark, Denman Maroney, Ben Monder, and the Either/Orchestra. He has performed at festivals throughout the country, including the Newport Jazz Festival, the Iowa City Jazz Festival, and New York's Vision Festival. John's inventive drumming can be heard on his duo record with saxophonist Joe McPhee, Grand Marquis on Boxholder Records and Mat Maneri's latest release on Thirsty Ear Records, Pentagon. Also performing that night: Hamburgers & Hot Dogs Too: Jingjing Zhou - keyboards, etc Andy Fordyce - drums Whit Love - guitar Sean Cahalin - bass -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 05:26:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC8A93BE73; Thu, 21 May 2009 05:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5181 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 21 May 2009 05:26:43 UTC Message-Id: <59569A30-FBD7-44E8-9B94-F62B71E7BCF5@redsunsoundroom.com> From: p koniuto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905071602t1f968dbbgdba1e572cdc283d4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-430732834 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Finished EP! Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:00:21 -0400 References: <9e0440a60905071602t1f968dbbgdba1e572cdc283d4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 05:26:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-430732834 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trying to catch up on e-mails... Am i dense, or is there a reason i can't figure out how to download these tracks? I can hear them, but i'm interested in downloading them to go so i can live with them for a while. Thanks, Peter ______________________________ Peter Koniuto Creative Recordist - Composer Red Sun Soundroom Niskayuna, NY On our hi-fi this week... http://www.RedSunSoundroom.com peter AT RedSunSoundroom.com ______________________________ On May 7, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Daniel great stuff , particularly like Siren and the mix on it. > Keep it up. > > Jim > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey > www.myspace.com/ctreuse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-2-430732834 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Trying to catch = up on e-mails...

Am i dense, or is there a reason i = can't figure out how to download these tracks?  I can hear them, = but i'm interested in downloading them to go so i can live with them for = a = while.

Thanks,
Peter

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peter AT = RedSunSoundroom.com
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On May 7, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Jim = Goodin wrote:

Daniel great stuff , particularly like Siren and the = mix on it.  Keep it up.
 
=
Jim

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ReUse, an introspective textural = aural journey



= --Apple-Mail-2-430732834-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 06:37:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6EC03BE7E; Thu, 21 May 2009 06:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f6lEwBd7y9sLJ40yTgcQHFnBeLODi0mxWM1Neh6DDOs=; b=EZ8taKHqbF2pG1rAqPFsO+WVt/pFF+hb77tqgUgbEb8WbQScRtG+9BIfWtVB935sR4 +OuVaZSQVjSMkr0MeRe0EbsF1vwilP7rcjISFpki8ookrotD9ygBd9As6YpIp1XVm5fv Y0wENS62cK0Rp0SI1kF935Zikfk76tdcnp58s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UPy7At3H0cGb74wP35WH9gXYeNUxviomqThXjeBLeWgbRFy2JM2cUF3ctkaa4iBGvu xiRuuIOjuViMpNpgTWbkRcer6otMz1C0hUh4Uit2Oyrp0AdZ6Zo0PAuP2/ltkTR13Ade YSFk4baCw+OgRlWD2j3NT4VPNWTrozqrvthSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0EAC3520-7BF9-49A8-9198-2368E8152074@con-brio.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:37:57 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905202337u3986e0d1q6826794072f9594@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Newly subscribed! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:37:58 +0000 (UTC) "Steve Bingham" wrote: > Hello Hello, Steve :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 07:44:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC1B43BE7C; Thu, 21 May 2009 07:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_710abebc-c249-4101-b4f4-aac787934fb5_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Davis' modal stuff Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:44:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905201653m7fc0731ewd019acdda99c223d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905201653m7fc0731ewd019acdda99c223d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2009 07:44:32.0309 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAAD1650:01C9D9E7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:44:32 +0000 (UTC) --_710abebc-c249-4101-b4f4-aac787934fb5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --_710abebc-c249-4101-b4f4-aac787934fb5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= --_710abebc-c249-4101-b4f4-aac787934fb5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 07:48:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BB6D3BE78; Thu, 21 May 2009 07:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ded1f82b-1e10-4efd-9bcb-83e5d68d0ff9_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Newly subscribed! Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:48:37 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <373276.30363.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <373276.30363.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2009 07:48:37.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CF004F0:01C9D9E8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:48:37 +0000 (UTC) --_ded1f82b-1e10-4efd-9bcb-83e5d68d0ff9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great to have you here Steve=2C I listened to some stuff on you're site. Ve= ry nice if I may say so.. So what makes a classically trained musician interested in looping ??? =20 Regards=2C Anders My looping experiments: www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl >> > Best wishes to all=2C > > Steve > >=20 > > Steve Bingham > > www.stevebingham.co.uk >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --_ded1f82b-1e10-4efd-9bcb-83e5d68d0ff9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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= --_ded1f82b-1e10-4efd-9bcb-83e5d68d0ff9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 07:48:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F2923BE85; Thu, 21 May 2009 07:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5+uZbcFRQKVfqVZX1u+hcjgkhKRCgvNVkcyt3uLzGww=; b=hc2sd7qi/+AMi+1rEA9CvJi9Lm7VS4o4c9n13KQclwmREqjhR40f5qkCwUWJdB/XnC HUo2spQ46HfY9cTTbhGV2hqUz85pSNFk6YzqIyYRjA/CV88iadpORGEhVJj1M1HCSlrv ZP/N4/zCXK7oO+Jyv7YAqml6UDESPbBhul7Wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RJL3uZ/8VDDs2sUPo8yxfFSpEs2vvYfpgsm3kf96URi3ex8Fm4rlWjz+x4F3BrxiLA 0xpikq8wUAl5emjzDZN9ktgVZfJvI2WwSZA7CiHd7CliHHIbxZ+zHwkFW9eP/ihNKNCt B3CR3NOS1Wlk5bzmLz/Bx2WDU8chAIUgjFNGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0905201653m7fc0731ewd019acdda99c223d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:48:43 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905210048t5deb0ba2i72be39d795ab5343@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Davis' modal stuff From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:48:43 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > ? - - - Louder, please! Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 08:16:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 789D53BE79; Thu, 21 May 2009 08:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202521885/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.192.137/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.192.137 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjwCABmrFEpPTsCJ/2dsb2JhbAAIzwmEBgWIRQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,226,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202521885" Message-ID: <4A1510BA.7050502@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:28:42 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter References: <4A1460F5.3050202@tiscali.co.uk> <6582F861-01F9-484C-9CE1-ABDD497EB805@con-brio.com> In-Reply-To: <6582F861-01F9-484C-9CE1-ABDD497EB805@con-brio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Steve, the G2M is specifically designed for guitar, but there's no reason you shouldn't try it on violin. It works like an effect box, so you'd just have to send the correct level of un-effected violin signal to the box somehow. ( I don't know the technical specs of the p/u on your electric violin, but may be possible just to plug it straight in ). The G2M only responds in the guitar's range of notes, so for a regular violin only the bottom Two Octaves plus a Sixth would work. (there's also an Octave+4th available below the regular violin range). The G2M doesn't itself transpose the midi notes, so that would have to be done in the sound producing module as needed. I suspect it'll work better pizz than arco, the only way to know for sure is to try it. (as you're not that far away, you're welcome to drop round and give it a go, and the G50 too, but I'll have to give back the G2M to it's rightful owner fairly soon). andy butler Steve Bingham wrote: > I've always wondered if any of these midi converters would work on a > violin, but have never had one to try: Do you reckon it could be made to > fit in any way Andy? > > Steve > > > On 20 May 2009, at 20:58, andy butler wrote: > >> Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter. >> >> I have one of these to play with for a couple of days, >> I'm sure it's of interest to quite a few list members. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 08:18:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 102383BE75; Thu, 21 May 2009 08:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2a5411eb-aaac-4131-9e27-a5dcf225a16a_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Davis' modal stuff Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:18:26 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905201653m7fc0731ewd019acdda99c223d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905201653m7fc0731ewd019acdda99c223d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2009 08:18:26.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[B731E720:01C9D9EC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:18:27 +0000 (UTC) --_2a5411eb-aaac-4131-9e27-a5dcf225a16a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm=2C the content of the last mail disappeared in cyberspace... =20 You're post made me think Rainer.. thanks..=20 As for "freeing the soloist" it's a very egocentric concept. I Would prefer= to think of it as freeing music=2C sort of. What do I mean.?? not sure :-) BUT=2C I think we all have felt from time to time that there are things we = would like to "say" or express that can't be said in a fixed context of mel= ody=2C harmony and rhythm.=20 So based on our background some of us try to find "new" (or perhaps just di= fferent) means of expression. Looping has made me listen and think in new w= ays=2C for me that is.=20 What you call the approach is not important (harmolodic=2C modal...) I thin= k many musicians just want to EXPRESS themselves. Looping is a way I have f= ound.. Sometimes I wonder how "outside" you can play and still call it music...=20 =20 All the best=2C =20 Anders My looping experiments: www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl =20 > Date: Thu=2C 21 May 2009 01:53:51 +0200 > Subject: Davis' modal stuff > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Warning: I lost track of what I wanted to say in the first place > halfway during the following message - feel free to ignore! >=20 > Rainer >=20 > Rick said (in that "book turned 100% feedback" thread): > "Davis embraced modalism because it finally gave the soloist control > over determining harmony as opposed to the comping instruments or the > 'tune'" >=20 > I'll start by stating that for me=2C "Kind of Blue" is one of the most > overrated works in music (together with the entire catalogue of W.A. > Mozart=2C the later Richard Strau=DF operas=2C anything by Django Reinhar= t > (sp?) and the majority of Jarret's solo work=2C to name just a few > things). > Now that I've gotten your attention =3B) >=20 > There had been=2C at that time in jazz=2C different approaches in trying > to=2C as Rick puts it=2C "give the soloist control". ...............= --_2a5411eb-aaac-4131-9e27-a5dcf225a16a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm=2C =3Bthe content of the =3Blast mail disappeared in cyberspace= ...
 =3B
You're post made me think Rainer.. thanks..
As for "freeing the soloist" it's a very egocentric concept. I Would prefer= to think of it as =3Bfreeing music=2C sort of. What do I mean.?? not s= ure :-)
BUT=2C I think we all have felt from time to time that there are things&nbs= p=3Bwe would like to "say" or express that can't be said in a fixed context= of melody=2C harmony and rhythm. =3B
So based on our background some of us try to find "new" (or perhaps just di= fferent) means of expression. Looping has made me listen and think in new w= ays=2C for me that is.
What you call the approach is not important (harmolodic=2C modal...) I thin= k many musicians just want to EXPRESS themselves. Looping is a way I have f= ound..
Sometimes I wonder =3Bhow "outside" you can play and still call it musi= c...
 =3B
All the best=2C
 =3B
Anders
My looping experiments: www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl
 =3B
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 21 May 2009 01:53:51 +0200
>=3B Subjec= t: Davis' modal stuff
>=3B From: moinsound@googlemail.com
>=3B To= : loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Warning: I lost = track of what I wanted to say in the first place
>=3B halfway during t= he following message - feel free to ignore!
>=3B
>=3B Rainer
= >=3B
>=3B Rick said (in that "book turned 100% feedback" thread):>=3B "Davis embraced modalism because it finally gave the soloist contr= ol
>=3B over determining harmony as opposed to the comping instruments= or the
>=3B 'tune'"
>=3B
>=3B I'll start by stating that f= or me=2C "Kind of Blue" is one of the most
>=3B overrated works in mus= ic (together with the entire catalogue of W.A.
>=3B Mozart=2C the late= r Richard Strau=DF operas=2C anything by Django Reinhart
>=3B (sp?) an= d the majority of Jarret's solo work=2C to name just a few
>=3B things= ).
>=3B Now that I've gotten your attention =3B)
>=3B
>=3B = There had been=2C at that time in jazz=2C different approaches in trying>=3B to=2C as Rick puts it=2C "give the soloist control". ..............= . = --_2a5411eb-aaac-4131-9e27-a5dcf225a16a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 09:18:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B6E33BE79; Thu, 21 May 2009 09:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202553955/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.192.137/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.192.137 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjwCACe5FEpPTsCJ/2dsb2JhbAAIvD2Rb4QGBYhF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,226,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202553955" Message-ID: <4A151F54.5080100@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:31:00 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Sonuus G2M Yamaha G50 (Axon) Comparison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Sonuus G2M Yamaha G50 (Axon) Comparison. The G50 is a licensed version of the Axon technology, but thoughtfully includes a mono input. (Tracking is better on hex p/u). I'm using the mono input for this comparison. 1) Tracking speed. The G50 is faster, it just feels more real. 2) Tracking accuracy. The G2M seems to have the advantage, but then when I concentrated on my "ultra clean " playing style I preferred the G50 especially as the playing speed increased. Matt Stevens (G2M) modestly claims that the spurious low notes are him hitting open strings http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com but his demo shows the sort of results that I've been getting. 3) Warbling on Sustained notes. G2M wins hands down here, it's not 100% perfect, but any warbles are very slight deviations. The G50 jumps to new notes on occassion, although I always found it was predictable enough to avoid. 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A friend of mine said the he found a hack, in that the audio files are st= ored in your temporary internet files folder! So I'm sure you can fish = them out of there :)

Thanks for taking the time!
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=
2009/5/21 p koniuto <peter@redsunsoundroom.com>= ;
Trying to catch up on e-mails...

Am i dense, or = is there a reason i can't figure out how to download these tracks? =A0I= can hear them, but i'm interested in downloading them to go so i can l= ive with them for a while.

Thanks,
Peter


__________________________= ____
Peter Koniuto
Creative Recordist - Composer
Red Sun Soundroom
Niskayuna, NY

On = our hi-fi this week...
peter AT Re= dSunSoundroom.com
______________________________

<= div>
On May 7, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Jim = Goodin wrote:

Daniel great stuff , = particularly like Siren and the mix on it.=A0 Keep it up.
=A0
Jim

--
ReUse, an introspective = textural aural journey




--0016e6d32a1b8233da046a696050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 10:58:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADD5C3BE75; Thu, 21 May 2009 10:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1533D2.1090801@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 03:58:26 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: Davis' Modal Stuff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Dear Rainer, you wrote: "I'll start by stating that for me, "Kind of Blue" is one of the most overrated works in music" Considering that it is universally acclaimed as a masterpiece, is the top selling jazz record of all time and probably the most influential one as well, I'd be curious to hear your reasons for claiming it is one of the most overrated works in music (don't worry, we'll wait to later about your pronouncements about Mozart, Strauss , Reinhardt and Jarrett...........lol) I don't agree with you because I truly love this record and consider it to be my one desert island jazz record if I could only take one (and a battery powered record player with unlimited batteries................ X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E99CE3BE78; Thu, 21 May 2009 11:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202622168/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.192.137/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.192.137 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjwCAPvZFEpPTsCJ/2dsb2JhbAAIzxuEBgWIRQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,227,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202622168" Message-ID: <4A15402C.5000806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:51:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff References: <4A1533D2.1090801@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A1533D2.1090801@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Dear Rainer, > you wrote: > "I'll start by stating that for me, "Kind of Blue" is one of the most > overrated works in music" > > Considering that it is universally acclaimed as a masterpiece, it could hardly be "the most overrated" otherwise :-) From hkblog.nbvwe3dpm4wtembqgy3danbwgu4a-looparc=loopersdelight.com@returns.bulk.yahoo.com Thu May 21 12:00:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 393 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 21 May 2009 12:00:28 UTC Received: from n1.bullet.hki.yahoo.com (n1.bullet.hki.yahoo.com [202.43.221.26]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 005CE3BE70 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 12:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [202.43.221.25] by n1.bullet.hki.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 11:53:41 -0000 Received: from [124.108.94.155] by t2.bullet.hki.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 11:53:41 -0000 Date: 21 May 2009 19:53:41 +0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by w7.blog.hk2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 11:53:41 -0000 From: =?UTF-8?B?aGVsbGVuNTAwMw==?= To: looparc@loopersdelight.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: hkblog-invite X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: hkblog-2006604658 X-Originating-IP: [61.220.26.247] Subject: =?UTF-8?B?aGVsbGVuNTAwM+i3n+S9oOWIhuS6q+iHquW3sSBCbG9n?= Message-Id: <20090521120029.005CE3BE70@arsenic.violacea.com>

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 12:33:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 794EB3BE75; Thu, 21 May 2009 12:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 441 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 21 May 2009 12:33:51 UTC Message-ID: <20090521131916.uuyj08irrfsosgo4@webmail.con-brio.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:19:16 +0100 From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Newly subscribed! References: <373276.30363.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Anders Bergdahl : > So what makes a classically trained musician interested in looping ??? > It was working in a group with bassist Steve Lawson about 10 years ago that set me on the looping path (or is that the looping moebius strip!). Since then I've been hooked. Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 13:23:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C4493BE78; Thu, 21 May 2009 13:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o921LHr+IPewOm5A/kH/WHsZB1BDERf1taRhWm6q1vg=; b=FhDroe97g4Qz6fHO0Rdj0nizw8F5hQZlFnkGSJR+CEvMj6+LrdQ7PMT2qpBYA+IDzr mqd+bqJZRarb80skuOwogIL+L3BJ0UBNUpGrsEWuGHBAJlmNjm93w3xHB1IPGfTV5nrf TADmD0+wFjuDyOuzIcB2ro0PYyDJM9yphbloQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=N68UxnbQafZn7kvaqnYNYfJBODOZWmPaxR7urFIxJJSxl9SSjWhBOiTd6Q/K1lcf1g A9xyvgVAJWNOHNHh8PzhwQ/xJaooOPVdPK1ktNm3J9/ZZ20NMiJeHYGHfcHWc19avNQ3 Vkc9qceCgk4/GunaAupmz0Ea6Ezq2MXml5h0s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0905201653m7fc0731ewd019acdda99c223d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:17:51 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7a9df1a6616c331 Message-ID: <101191640905210617o26400fd6n9564ba5dbac121df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Davis' modal stuff From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362835b69ecc1e046a6bf8c5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:23:32 +0000 (UTC) --0016362835b69ecc1e046a6bf8c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable my next album title: "None Dare Call It Music" :-) do you know, i think Kind of Blue is a bit over-idolized also (I'm a Silent Way and Bitches' Brew devotee), but when it comes to Django? Whatever you think intellectually of the music, I just loved listening to it for a long, long time (until it became just too familiar to listen to, much like the Beatles) - it is joyful, accomplished, often interesting and always swinging (Rainer, you knew *someone* would bite!). That's enough for me. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hmm, the content of the last mail disappeared in cyberspace... > > You're post made me think Rainer.. thanks.. > As for "freeing the soloist" it's a very egocentric concept. I Would pref= er > to think of it as freeing music, sort of. What do I mean.?? not sure :-) > BUT, I think we all have felt from time to time that there are things we > would like to "say" or express that can't be said in a fixed context of > melody, harmony and rhythm. > So based on our background some of us try to find "new" (or perhaps just > different) means of expression. Looping has made me listen and think in n= ew > ways, for me that is. > What you call the approach is not important (harmolodic, modal...) I thin= k > many musicians just want to EXPRESS themselves. Looping is a way I have > found.. > Sometimes I wonder how "outside" you can play and still call it music... > > All the best, > > Anders > My looping experiments: www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl > > > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:53:51 +0200 > > Subject: Davis' modal stuff > > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > Warning: I lost track of what I wanted to say in the first place > > halfway during the following message - feel free to ignore! > > > > Rainer > > > > Rick said (in that "book turned 100% feedback" thread): > > "Davis embraced modalism because it finally gave the soloist control > > over determining harmony as opposed to the comping instruments or the > > 'tune'" > > > > I'll start by stating that for me, "Kind of Blue" is one of the most > > overrated works in music (together with the entire catalogue of W.A. > > Mozart, the later Richard Strau=DF operas, anything by Django Reinhart > > (sp?) and the majority of Jarret's solo work, to name just a few > > things). > > Now that I've gotten your attention ;) > > > > There had been, at that time in jazz, different approaches in trying > > to, as Rick puts it, "give the soloist control". ............... > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016362835b69ecc1e046a6bf8c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable my next album title: "None Dare Call It Music" :-)

do you = know, i think Kind of Blue is a bit over-idolized also (I'm a Silent Wa= y and Bitches' Brew devotee), but when it comes to Django? Whatever you= think intellectually of the music, I just loved listening to it for a long= , long time (until it became just too familiar to listen to, much like the = Beatles) - it is joyful, accomplished, often interesting and always swingin= g=A0 (Rainer, you knew *someone* would bite!). That's enough for me.
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Anders Berg= dahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hmm,=A0the content of the=A0last mail disappeared in cyberspace...
=A0 You're post made me think Rainer.. thanks..
As for "freeing the soloist" it's a very egocentric concept. = I Would prefer to think of it as=A0freeing music, sort of. What do I mean.?= ? not sure :-)
BUT, I think we all have felt from time to time that there are things=A0we = would like to "say" or express that can't be said in a fixed = context of melody, harmony and rhythm.=A0
So based on our background some of us try to find "new" (or perha= ps just different) means of expression. Looping has made me listen and thin= k in new ways, for me that is.
What you call the approach is not important (harmolodic, modal...) I think = many musicians just want to EXPRESS themselves. Looping is a way I have fou= nd..
Sometimes I wonder=A0how "outside" you can play and still call it= music...
=A0
All the best,
=A0
Anders
My looping experiments: www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl
=A0
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:53:51 +0200
> Subject: Davis= 9; modal stuff
> From: moinsound@googlemail.com
> To: loopers-delight@loop= ers-delight.com

>
> Warning: I lost track of what I wanted to say in the firs= t place
> halfway during the following message - feel free to ignore!=
>
> Rainer
>
> Rick said (in that "book tur= ned 100% feedback" thread):
> "Davis embraced modalism because it finally gave the soloist cont= rol
> over determining harmony as opposed to the comping instruments = or the
> 'tune'"
>
> I'll start by stat= ing that for me, "Kind of Blue" is one of the most
> overrated works in music (together with the entire catalogue of W.A.> Mozart, the later Richard Strau=DF operas, anything by Django Reinha= rt
> (sp?) and the majority of Jarret's solo work, to name just a= few
> things).
> Now that I've gotten your attention ;)
> > There had been, at that time in jazz, different approaches in trying=
> to, as Rick puts it, "give the soloist control". .= ..............



--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti= st.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http= ://www.warrensirota.com
--0016362835b69ecc1e046a6bf8c5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 13:59:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F44C3BE7F; Thu, 21 May 2009 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1962 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 21 May 2009 13:59:43 UTC Message-ID: <1518.67.93.18.211.1242912414.squirrel@mymail3.myregisteredsite.com> In-Reply-To: <101191640905210617o26400fd6n9564ba5dbac121df@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905201653m7fc0731ewd019acdda99c223d@mail.gmail.com> <101191640905210617o26400fd6n9564ba5dbac121df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Davis' modal stuff From: db@biink.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_20090521092654_54654" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <3HJOMD.A.-jF.P5VFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_20090521092654_54654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Listen to Kind of Blue and pay close attention to Bill Evans. DB http://biink.com/db ------=_20090521092654_54654 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Listen to Kind of Blue and pay close attention to Bill Evans.




DB
http://biink.com/db ------=_20090521092654_54654-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 14:58:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29EC23BE7E; Thu, 21 May 2009 14:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HTqH73Tghat47EdqvpHTpbUynlvrX07NlVowi8C1Puc=; b=Jc69x7LALzDcHvbhwxyz3whbR9SEmFxXvFzSBCLdEfJ36yNK/AyfXIC2Xd1UsMWZa2 vaiYIjbipfyt1NlDLGQoxEFDlfdhPr4wZpjorRbi5UitbFuVn/NBjSHt1cdqHfi1zJd6 8k/EvY8LUQ93RLbOHtR7Bi6rNWm6dgJE3v/Zo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NRIksSkW80LPAuKeLEXP1QKeykGzKq3LG6qp+TgUXd8vyK8djejfjma+7Xahcl1yV/ 1HkBoKYsrfnT0pxspaEo/0i0HRcZ6AwSrb84rc8Ovr474aRQpxkIkmsJe9lSP/0PfzbV PUwLGHfYa3RTnx+r/GyBpuE+pQvQQOC+6T7wk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:58:41 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905210758y4cadf0can5cce6e6b3bc654b1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: re: Davis' Modal Stuff From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Rick said: "Considering that it is universally acclaimed as a masterpiece, is the top selling jazz record of all time and probably the most influential one as well, I'd be curious to hear your reasons for claiming it is one of the most overrated works in music. [...] I don't agree with you because I truly love this record and consider it to be my one desert island jazz record." Uhh, there's so much to say about this topic, and for lots of it I wouldn't qualify, simply because I didn't listen that much to that album to be that kind of expert as people who wrote whole books about it. However, I'd like to start where I think you, Rick, are wrong, because you didn't understand what I wrote. I said: ""Kind of Blue" is one of the most overrated works in music" which, basically, means, that (in my opinion), the album does not live up to some of the attributes usually associated with it (hugely influental on the development of jazz, rock and classical music, innovative, greatest jazz album of all times etc.). To which you answer: "I don't agree with you because I truly love this record and consider it to be my one desert island jazz record", which is very well ok, and mostly has to do with your personal taste, but this fact does not in any way relate to my opinion that the album is overrated. ("Overrated", again I'd like to be sure to phrase that very precisely, meaning that a lot of people, some of them influental writers, give it attributes it does not deserve). However, if your opinion is that the album is regarded as hugegly innovative, the most influential jazz album of all time, and the best jazz album of all time, then this would be a case of disagreement. So basically, I won't go on talking about how "beautiful" I believe the music is, and will concentrate on that innovative/creative etc. stuff associated with it. Of course when talking about the influence and the innovation of a work of art, it's necessary to put it into historic context. So in or around 1559, what was happening in the jazz world? A few examples: "Freedom Suite" by Sonny Rollins (1958), a sax/bass/drums trio "This is our music" by Ornette Coleman (1960), sax/trumpet/bass/drums "Giant Steps" by John Coltrane (1960), sax/piano/bass/drums So why is "Kind of Blue" so much greater than any of the others? Obviously, for some reason (and I claim that that wasn't for artistic value alone), the album somehow reached critical mass, thus propelling it from a record for modern jazz insiders into a househould item. Which will mean, that some rock or classical artist when asked about jazz albums that influenced him (and he wants to avoid answering "none" so he won't seem like an uneducated, arrogant idiot) would most probably answer "Kind of Blue", simply because its the only jazz album he knows by name. Summarizing: (1) what sets "Kind of Blue" apart from other jazz albums (from that time and in general) is the fact that it's so well-known. (2) automatically leads to the fact that anyone (from another style) influenced by jazz would most probably know "Kind of Blue" better than any other jazz record (if he knew any at all). (2a) corollary: if they had listened to "This is our music" (replace that by any innovative jazz album of your choice) instead, they would claim that as an influence. (3) there's nothing in "Kind of Blue" that isn't in other works from the same time or even way before. So does that make your choice of "Kind of Blue" as your favourite jazz record invalid? Most certainly not. However there is a chance (see (2) above) that by just checking out lots of great jazz albums, that you'll revise your statement. Best, Rainer post scriptum: some direct references to post answering my original message. 1. Warren: yes, I had assumed that you liked 70ies Miles better - same as I. 2. Anders: "we all have felt from time to time that there are things we would like to "say" or express that can't be said in a fixed context of melody, harmony and rhythm." - so what? (lol) then you break out of it. It's nice to see what Walter Norris does on Something Else (Coleman, 1958), who obviously was in those sessions by request of the producer, but quickly felt that he simply couldn't play anything that worked with Coleman's concept - so he stayed out of the way pretty much. 3. Andy: "Considering that it is universally acclaimed as a masterpiece, it could hardly be "the most overrated" otherwise" - thanks! *g* 4. db: "pay close attention to Bill Evans" - why should I, if the goal is to get away from forcing the soloist into a harmonic framework? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 15:01:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FE6C3BE7F; Thu, 21 May 2009 15:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2776.67.93.18.211.1242918066.squirrel@mymail3.myregisteredsite.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905210758y4cadf0can5cce6e6b3bc654b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905210758y4cadf0can5cce6e6b3bc654b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: re: Davis' Modal Stuff From: db@biink.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_20090521110106_13564" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:01:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_20090521110106_13564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Of course when talking about the influence and the innovation of a > work of art, it's necessary to put it into historic context. So in or > around 1559, what was happening in the jazz world? Not a heck of a lot? > 4. db: "pay close attention to Bill Evans" - why should I, if the goal > is to get away from forcing the soloist into a harmonic framework? Who's goal is that? DB http://biink.com/db ------=_20090521110106_13564 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Of course when talking about the influence and the innovation of a
> work of art, it's necessary to put it into historic context. So in or
> around 1559, what was happening in the jazz world?

Not a heck of a lot?

> 4. db: "pay close attention to Bill Evans" - why should I, if the goal
> is to get away from forcing the soloist into a harmonic framework?

Who's goal is that?

DB
http://biink.com/db ------=_20090521110106_13564-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 15:33:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72DEE3BE7C; Thu, 21 May 2009 15:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JagvqWl3f1nbazjL6XhKH7dX9aubSoYsgGJS9UuUQrM=; b=tuDAeUQ3yNmPTYXVtupzPRKV1keBzoKEM9fyK09H3jQwCwvFoRJoCmPil37/BthcAa Bf88x7wJCDzIZOdeN2r3n+7e5pEEstMrM1xF+/+wvp5/9hE8L5Q0BgU+8CRw5KXzJ3qv 6cE8yj2X5ZaSRanVvcbQLD/ff6Ir9oUOuNEvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LBBm3dgq+MecOHj5g4RkCxy8uWN5Q7r+T0b0qz8Wduu/Uwy15RxxKFPtqJdYDnFAsK PmHN1n3RdFv/77HuJGLKhKrTBC9zzJ6LEIY7iGlFGlRS8L8TNx653w/r7MCMNUFvQyoI v+QRy9OWdE/2veC2MLhKYMpZN/lphkxH9mlWU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 17:33:13 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905210833t2b2651bek7d651c623cf10b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Kind of Blue (Re: Davis' Modal Stuff) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2n5OOC.A.gU.ZRXFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Anyone who knows music and listens to that album can hear that the reviewers did not always describe it correctly. In fact the musicians did not play more in a modal way at all. What happened was simply that no one explicitly played the rapid chord changes, as usual in be bop. But there were definitely be bop style rapid chord changes in the music! You still hear the chord vamps - as understood - in every soloist's lines. My guess is that reviewers took an easy ride on the work, thinking "well I don't hear the usual piano banging every eighth note to mark out the chord vamps - guess that must mean the soloist is improvising more freely... eh... like in modal style". Wrong. The truth is that many of the song's lead lines will work just as well if a jolly good banjo player would sit in to strum those rapid chord changes. The cool thing with that record IMHO is rather that they still played be bop but doing so while sonically leaving out much of the sounding be bop characteristics - the explicit marking of rapid chord changes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 16:38:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5AA93BE80; Thu, 21 May 2009 16:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:37:50 EDT Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bd8.367a38f0.3746dd5e_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:38:21 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bd8.367a38f0.3746dd5e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/21/09 10:58:59 AM, moinsound@googlemail.com writes: > So in or > around 1559, > boy!..... did this rocket me into another space!!!!!......:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Huge savings on HDTVs from Dell.com! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221836042x1201399880/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.ne t%2Fclk%3B215073686%3B37034322%3Bb) --part1_bd8.367a38f0.3746dd5e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 5/21/09 10:58:59 AM, moinsound@googlemail.com writes:

So in or
around 1559,


boy!..... did this rocket me into another space!!!!!......:)m



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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221836042x1201399880/aol?= redir=3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215073686%3B37034322%3Bb) --part1_bd8.367a38f0.3746dd5e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 16:43:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EEBB3BE81; Thu, 21 May 2009 16:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 21 May 2009 16:43:16 UTC Message-id: <213A0E66-0045-4ABD-A202-A9D4D10D9AB9@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0905210833t2b2651bek7d651c623cf10b9@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Kind of Blue (Re: Davis' Modal Stuff) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:43:06 -0500 References: <66f9cc1e0905210833t2b2651bek7d651c623cf10b9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:43:16 +0000 (UTC) On May 21, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Anyone who knows music and listens to that album can hear that the > reviewers did not always describe it correctly. In fact the musicians > did not play more in a modal way at all. What happened was simply that > no one explicitly played the rapid chord changes, What rapid chord changes? Isn't "So What" just a vamp on two chords? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 17:00:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC5143BE80; Thu, 21 May 2009 17:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 199422742/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.192.137/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.192.137 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0CAAclFUpPTsCJ/2dsb2JhbAAIwiGQH4QJBYhJ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,228,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="199422742" Message-ID: <4A158B8D.9080208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:12:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff References: <7334ca1b0905210758y4cadf0can5cce6e6b3bc654b1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905210758y4cadf0can5cce6e6b3bc654b1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 17:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > work of art, it's necessary to put it into historic context. So in or > around 1559, what was happening in the jazz world? > A few examples: > "Freedom Suite" by Sonny Rollins (1958), a sax/bass/drums trio > "This is our music" by Ornette Coleman (1960), sax/trumpet/bass/drums > "Giant Steps" by John Coltrane (1960), sax/piano/bass/drums > As a recent BBC documentary related, there were 4 significant albums released that year. Kind of Blue - Miles Davis The Shape of Jazz to Come - Ornette Coleman's debut on Atlantic Time Out - Dave Brubeck Quartet. Ah Um - Mingus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edbwVKwFF6Y I'm not going to say I think one album is better than the rest, but don't bother having a conversation with me while TSJC is playing. Of course, KOB is perfect background music, probably one of it's selling points, especially to the jazz critics ;-) > break out of it. It's nice to see what Walter Norris does on Something > Else (Coleman, 1958), who obviously was in those sessions by request > of the producer, but quickly felt that he simply couldn't play > anything that worked with Coleman's concept - so he stayed out of the > way pretty much. There's one point on that album where the piano plays this incredibly strong and lucid melody with complete confidence. Kind of sticks out from the rest of the playing. Very strange. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 17:07:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAA443BE78; Thu, 21 May 2009 17:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d+HIxsgPTMGJIjBL44i5tMzjGjsPJKnmRHmibPqPIB4=; b=w7ESiA1ehYmivywzK7sq7BwGwxRKSpEqYSoWNUiSqu7hK3JzuQ2YIBUOr3Jl+i8xve u2NVf4DpxsRtjeNb9CoRpLNnloTnQaeJ2odrEZCATFN03A3T3DmwFS15wE0vYO1XAvUh 98QMgMIWHA6SFt0SbEdTtnytWLmudebCUi2y0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fFx1xOpqcdbIQuxAi4dzCiSl5JoPk2DrcHZOQtDCsCUbmZ1CiH047ix0I4iKvxJfbY Dg1JLZsIwHkun5VK1iVV97MJ4t6a1QuYE/f56B1bEYDabW14sRE7XV+JdAgLHR/T/EoL RIOiffY/SiAHa7ouF2ZZcIMQgwj1GZRJGvqWU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <213A0E66-0045-4ABD-A202-A9D4D10D9AB9@verizon.net> References: <66f9cc1e0905210833t2b2651bek7d651c623cf10b9@mail.gmail.com> <213A0E66-0045-4ABD-A202-A9D4D10D9AB9@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:07:39 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90905211007g699e86bak83e4ef4860293ebd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Kind of Blue (Re: Davis' Modal Stuff) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517503ba6693247046a6f2e06 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 17:07:39 +0000 (UTC) --001517503ba6693247046a6f2e06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Per is refering to the harmony implied by the melodic lines. You could harmonize the solos to different chords and the harmonic rythm would ressemble that of bebop. Sylvain On 5/21/09, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > > On May 21, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Anyone who knows music and listens to that album can hear that the >> reviewers did not always describe it correctly. In fact the musicians >> did not play more in a modal way at all. What happened was simply that >> no one explicitly played the rapid chord changes, >> > > What rapid chord changes? Isn't "So What" just a vamp on two chords? > > Jeff > > --001517503ba6693247046a6f2e06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think Per is refering to the harmony implied by the melodic lines.= =A0 You could harmonize the solos to different chords and the harmonic ryth= m would ressemble that of bebop.
Sylvain

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On 5/21/09, = Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@veriz= on.net> wrote:

On May 21,= 2009, at 10:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

Anyone who knows music and liste= ns to that album can hear that the
reviewers did not always describe it = correctly. In fact the musicians
did not play more in a modal way at all. What happened was simply that
n= o one explicitly played the rapid chord changes,

What rapid chord changes? Isn't "So What" just a vamp on two= chords?

Jeff


--001517503ba6693247046a6f2e06-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 17:38:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58E263BE88; Thu, 21 May 2009 17:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A159189.6050809@dehnhard.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:38:17 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Kind of Blue (Re: Davis' Modal Stuff) References: <66f9cc1e0905210833t2b2651bek7d651c623cf10b9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905210833t2b2651bek7d651c623cf10b9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18GCUbQoFmi917+nf8o6EzkzO0GLNw9lVJrGk3 DOv/A4C22qDLewQh+iFSFBvz98bZKH9c6H6FJ/1+0CyAV/Tu7x I9ssb5pCR/YqQoX3JYyf8UpWCubdjD4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 17:38:21 +0000 (UTC) maybe kind of blue has gotten so famous because it has a wonderful feel to it and contains music that non jazz musicians understand easily. tilmann Per Boysen schrieb: > Anyone who knows music and listens to that album can hear that the > reviewers did not always describe it correctly. In fact the musicians > did not play more in a modal way at all. What happened was simply that > no one explicitly played the rapid chord changes, as usual in be bop. > But there were definitely be bop style rapid chord changes in the > music! You still hear the chord vamps - as understood - in every > soloist's lines. My guess is that reviewers took an easy ride on the > work, thinking "well I don't hear the usual piano banging every eighth > note to mark out the chord vamps - guess that must mean the soloist is > improvising more freely... eh... like in modal style". Wrong. The > truth is that many of the song's lead lines will work just as well if > a jolly good banjo player would sit in to strum those rapid chord > changes. The cool thing with that record IMHO is rather that they > still played be bop but doing so while sonically leaving out much of > the sounding be bop characteristics - the explicit marking of rapid > chord changes. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 18:49:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A56B03BE88; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4FCDD5C6-03E5-44B0-8F0F-76E0A99D27E4@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <2871c3a90905211007g699e86bak83e4ef4860293ebd@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Kind of Blue (Re: Davis' Modal Stuff) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:49:40 -0500 References: <66f9cc1e0905210833t2b2651bek7d651c623cf10b9@mail.gmail.com> <213A0E66-0045-4ABD-A202-A9D4D10D9AB9@verizon.net> <2871c3a90905211007g699e86bak83e4ef4860293ebd@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:49:46 +0000 (UTC) On May 21, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I think Per is refering to the harmony implied by the melodic > lines. You could harmonize the solos to different chords and the > harmonic rythm would ressemble that of bebop. > Ok...gotcha. My mistake. :) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 19:18:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7F083BE90; Thu, 21 May 2009 19:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 341 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 21 May 2009 19:18:00 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c7sFDJLTqmX3KvXndV3wCC/eBQ/dLZ4FZf2BWFFkSlQ=; b=x6qC8FZXJp3IUNQ4rYHfr4FjKF7pXEDoPMiS8i4fPcrdgd48ewULvQbtRzAv90/Lj/ FAOBTU9E7U2P2VWImaqoRqqS1cC9z7Hj3Hc6ImNxR/41C+xKeB/lypPjf/PKqYnd2ZMl uwr7byrrfT2COsHCQESOVsxPcyMz5Gm85cFcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IMcPeI+upUtDeDFgWIjAd0Lkufy6Ibe1OdlU5R3isnilFzGe66yz4RvgUGh10vVENh khgbGGPVV/q72pe1f+jJZepi0G1hWFz1DF3DeJnLRUfdTPmhqLwNC0o5uRwN3EjP9+HA 0/XqUCC4I9sWvXnY6iwmqKcEH85QUkuxBxfIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:12:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ceab91d78f44c2b2 Message-ID: Subject: new delay plug-in: Little Spacey From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3MV0S.A.EaD.ojaFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi, not a looper per se but it does sound lovely on guitar. See http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 19:30:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70EF63BE8B; Thu, 21 May 2009 19:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9nwTvZQha8mzDwrY2sOChaedPp6BXP8b52dMDxRLCBo=; b=LKtt0xYMFM41otdHizye4/EUCCPFpDDKOnCrOw1ki3UzrjPHMTqn61PJ9I+RLFOSIK SCen9gEukLwLdi6FbCjnYyg4x0zyd1cU+kQP78LwbYg9DlQzpa5mXP2x0yBEVpcOCPRI ooNdxeTl7E421ZXvF6Pf+/oMBxRnLokPQ76Pw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iZcGPzQrjwwtfV9/2iJHMHFc1Sj3X6gZlkBabgXhrOY0XDjMhaFi1OQlpkKsU98soU hBgyfMsHOfiaEYUnXVGC2b1PrA/xEBKAT/uoT4QzA8SEXexaP3JrBKzgIaCehNambSPD q/dCDNkXoCvePFSbEZ0qFj8qM2Omc/7+SATM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:30:54 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905211230p2020176aq9f7d3e94a7ae80cc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff (and other OT) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Yep, the fact that of all the jazz albums from that era "Kind of Blue" is the most accessible (a theory which I already suggested in my post). Thanks go to Andy Butler for, next to mentioning "Shape of Jazz to Come" (which I consciously did not mention to point out that it actually was a "traditional" lineup with piano), also pointing out that "Ah Um" was released that same year. And I believe that Andy's post clearly showed that db's theory that "not a heck of a lot" was happening at that time is not very...spot-on. On a completely unrelated topic: One of the reasons "Kind of Blue" is cited as so great is that people bought it even though it didn't have any lead vocals on it! "Singing is a trick to get people to listen to music for longer than they would ordinarily" ("Stop Making Sense" liner notes). And here's the problem. Say you have a lead singer in your band (because otherwise you wouldn't get booked for that Sunday brunch events), but that pianist wants to play instrumental tunes with angular melody lines. Sometimes, people sit down, write lyrics to go along with the bebop standards, and fail miserably. This failure is then even outperformed when the singer starts to sing scat in what he/she believes to be jazz. Or it's totally different: here's someone writing lyrics for a bebop standard, singing it, and then doing scat - and it works! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nHc5oqbFyw Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 20:01:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55D2D3BEA0; Thu, 21 May 2009 20:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202463556/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.227.83/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.227.83 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0CAJ9PFUpPRuNT/2dsb2JhbAAI0neECQWISQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,229,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202463556" Message-ID: <4A15B5E6.7060107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:13:26 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff (and Ornette OT) References: <7334ca1b0905211230p2020176aq9f7d3e94a7ae80cc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905211230p2020176aq9f7d3e94a7ae80cc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Thanks go to Andy Butler for, next to mentioning "Shape of Jazz > to Come" (which I consciously did not mention to point out that it > actually was a "traditional" lineup with piano), also pointing out Not hard to mention that one, it's a personal favourite. ...the one with the piano is "Something Else". I guess "debut on Atlantic" is misleading, he'd had 2 albums on a small label already. SOJTC is 2 horns and rhythm section. Any other UK looper's going to see Ornette at the Royal Festival Hall? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 21:02:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DBE33BE8C; Thu, 21 May 2009 21:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A15C14B.1060007@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 17:02:03 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-zQBcD.A.ecC.eFcFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:02:22 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Journey" on EH Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#may On tonight's show, you'll hear new music from Groove Unlimited Records as well as Asnazzy and Mark Mahoney. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 21 21:45:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37FCB3BE8E; Thu, 21 May 2009 21:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1NNCMNZ8CWQZhUfwBV5MjM8Gzu4FrK/gfY1j4AJOv4k=; b=B7ql5YSCmSZjUU8Ujr6inPtGcOdYtplpG3w0oeZ9lTILV5bYt1CX6P3d9i8wd9o9pT B7eZcYvcJv0s8e/gei8Q1QEAHwnDGR2w6cWCdATVcTZYA3RkC92X/gew74VwAJpaNwZN lEfmimAF6kl8u66iE+w0LGp3C4+KA1tFIKGVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xZc/EikNczVUO9tHhX2ajodO1ERlCfycYkvhOtMG55Om87ntLuVqUNTq8XLGq8k1+p +vNJXqqTKx/SsaqbGfN64cFZHG8OgKTmTIphhNk1uRIAvoyD0PsYLP7eH5/0+aKpbyyX e9WfpsgB1YpsILkT0f/qOCpbEq9aBki/Fh8sc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:45:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new delay plug-in: Little Spacey From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Ya, saw this on KVR this morning, but pesky work is keeping me from the demo! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 06:15:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69B853BE80; Fri, 22 May 2009 06:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: new delay plug-in: Little Spacey Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:15:35 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 06:15:36 +0000 (UTC) I saw the name and thought "Cocteau Twins". Confirmed when I saw they also have a plug-in named "Oomingmak". Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 07:31:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A19D3BE80; Fri, 22 May 2009 07:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: , "Loopers Delight" Cc: "Leander Reininghaus" References: <008401c7b1db$1d41bc70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <498313.36631.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: midi volume pedal Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:31:24 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c9daaf$50306290$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AceyP62vtrhvHghWQKy+I8mGsBlI0IRQ3hrw In-Reply-To: <498313.36631.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:31:28 +0000 (UTC) can anyone recommend a good but very lightweight volume pedal that can be used as a midi volume pedal (in my case, connected to a PMC-10 and used inside of Bidule)? my Ernie Ball volume pedal is too heavy for travelling, and my cheap blue plastic Italian volume pedals are much too flakey - when I connect them to a visual gain control on my screen, their action doesn't move smoothly from bottom to top (as the Ernie Ball pedal does) but it jumps wildly back and forth. Is it because their potentiometer produces some noise and crackle? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 07:33:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8C143BE80; Fri, 22 May 2009 07:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Message-id: <7D97E51012A2460C996F008A4DAB28C9@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <008401c7b1db$1d41bc70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <498313.36631.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c9daaf$50306290$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: midi volume pedal Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 00:31:15 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, they're cheesy potentiometers. I've had those Italian pedals fail within an unreasonable amount of time. You can try to fix it by moving the pedal back and forth really quickly for about 30 secs. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: ; "Loopers Delight" Cc: "Leander Reininghaus" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:31 AM Subject: midi volume pedal > can anyone recommend a good but very lightweight volume pedal that can be > used as a midi volume pedal (in my case, connected to a PMC-10 and used > inside of Bidule)? my Ernie Ball volume pedal is too heavy for travelling, > and my cheap blue plastic Italian volume pedals are much too flakey - when > I > connect them to a visual gain control on my screen, their action doesn't > move smoothly from bottom to top (as the Ernie Ball pedal does) but it > jumps > wildly back and forth. Is it because their potentiometer produces some > noise > and crackle? > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 07:45:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEBF33BE87; Fri, 22 May 2009 07:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 199686475/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.239.83/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.239.83 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkcCAGP0FUpPTu9T/2dsb2JhbAAI0xeECwWITg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,232,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="199686475" Message-ID: <4A165ADB.1080003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:57:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: midi volume pedal References: <008401c7b1db$1d41bc70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <498313.36631.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c9daaf$50306290$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <001301c9daaf$50306290$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:45:10 +0000 (UTC) hi Michael, I have...uh....many..of those blue pedals. (Bespeco) They work absolutely fine, but I have seen the behaviour that you describe on occasion. There's no standard as to how an expression pedal should be wired, so the wiper of the potentiometer can either be connected to the tip or the ring of a stereo jack. (Bespeco make both types) When the wrong wiring is used, sometimes the readings jump around as you seem to be describing. If they work fine with the PMC, then they are probably perfectly ok. If they don't, it may be they need a re-wire, easiest way is to open the jack plug, leave the screen connection where it is and swap the other 2 wires. good luck with your gig andy butler Michael Peters wrote: > can anyone recommend a good but very lightweight volume pedal that can be > used as a midi volume pedal (in my case, connected to a PMC-10 and used > inside of Bidule)? my Ernie Ball volume pedal is too heavy for travelling, > and my cheap blue plastic Italian volume pedals are much too flakey - when I > connect them to a visual gain control on my screen, their action doesn't > move smoothly from bottom to top (as the Ernie Ball pedal does) but it jumps > wildly back and forth. Is it because their potentiometer produces some noise > and crackle? > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 08:57:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22FF53BE81; Fri, 22 May 2009 08:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1242982649; l=1865; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=2UAxR0b97TDfkTOjrztl4PAqCxc=; b=y50EJvsQ6no/dHIQ3FCMqti/GjVv4jF6uNNmdDdZqWfZnS+Po59wsUhbPaisXrDXWpt KaBLv+OWRxSgn2iYYaOp8lbeiGP756YKTaHTQw0VpuZOSwq3UWAxFlrWdB8SY57mnBlcI 9aPZvYSVWQa3liApd+BTpm2spb2k5YiXgM8= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWLBOrxXsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <007801c9dabb$c0d89a10$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <7334ca1b0905210758y4cadf0can5cce6e6b3bc654b1@mail.gmail.com> <4A158B8D.9080208@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:43:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <_7UeqD.A.yvG.6jmFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:57:31 +0000 (UTC) "Kind of Blue" - Miles Davis. IMPRESSING: All tracks are first takes-recordings. They just spent 7 hours recording time on this great album! Christo Jota ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff > Rainer Straschill wrote: > > > work of art, it's necessary to put it into historic context. So in or > > around 1559, what was happening in the jazz world? > > A few examples: > > "Freedom Suite" by Sonny Rollins (1958), a sax/bass/drums trio > > "This is our music" by Ornette Coleman (1960), sax/trumpet/bass/drums > > "Giant Steps" by John Coltrane (1960), sax/piano/bass/drums > > > > As a recent BBC documentary related, there were 4 significant > albums released that year. > Kind of Blue - Miles Davis > The Shape of Jazz to Come - Ornette Coleman's debut on Atlantic > Time Out - Dave Brubeck Quartet. > Ah Um - Mingus > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edbwVKwFF6Y > > I'm not going to say I think one album is better > than the rest, but don't bother having a conversation > with me while TSJC is playing. > > Of course, KOB is perfect background music, probably > one of it's selling points, especially to the jazz critics ;-) > > > > > > break out of it. It's nice to see what Walter Norris does on Something > > Else (Coleman, 1958), who obviously was in those sessions by request > > of the producer, but quickly felt that he simply couldn't play > > anything that worked with Coleman's concept - so he stayed out of the > > way pretty much. > > There's one point on that album where the piano plays this incredibly > strong and lucid melody with complete confidence. Kind of sticks > out from the rest of the playing. Very strange. > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 09:01:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 467A13BE85; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MLoCW3AMcAExNyhueF6gd5SfWaWaTarmXz5cGbin9To=; b=rwTktkFP/xVgKAHkiPUbEr3R3QvsFaHiPPYa5mEGwGd3azwVZUf52zkNmpze1z4EdT iL2nC5bkT7Uv3mkDzqSxlVJOrQL5IVmM/I3ZkV2w/NaHnLZX+nAg7ObsZoH5WGEa3Tzn 25a0CWHJgo0zDsGr/iNWD2nXQLTRhBqa5s3xY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ow6P8x/ygsSKQjviXDEG/tGkmenxzpt2vQoCiGUWMTWcPHh47dSzH2PVEiUHZjt8FK N3eoUt9MwsBBK7Ix/TFZo0HnK5Of1lTaPZTBpoQwFNJPA47zW2sZct8iV7Pu69fAwZx5 2YJNQhrI3zj8YoFzqf7KxNrkcOI9qLvCK+RPQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:01:30 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905220201r3c2cb8e3gd09d59807d822c1f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Christo said: "IMPRESSING: All tracks are first takes-recordings." No they aren't. All tracks were recorded in one go, but they weren't first takes. And to Andy: >(which I consciously did not mention to point out that it > actually was a "traditional" lineup with piano) "Not hard to mention that one, it's a personal favourite....the one with the piano is "Something Else"." Sorry, I didn't phrase that accurately. I meant to say "I mentioned "Something Else" instead of "Shape of Jazz to come" to have a "traditional quintet" album in my list of albums from that time." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 09:45:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF2A3BE86; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A167420.6090102@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 02:45:04 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: Davis' Modal Stuff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5m5fs.A.r1.iQnFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Tillman wrote: "maybe kind of blue has gotten so famous because it has a wonderful feel to it and contains music that non jazz musicians understand easily." That's an interesting and astute point. Jazz has had an interesting history and evolution. Originally, once it had spread out of New Orleans and up the Mississippi River and to the rest of the Country, it was the popular music of our country and had a very strong association with popular dance.......swing and ballads...........into big band, etc. There are a couple of theories about why Be-Bop developed with it's characteristic rapid chord changes. Dizzy Gillespie has said that it arose out of the tradition of the after hour jam sessions that would occur in nightclubs in New York , Chicago and other East Coast cities. After the first saxaphonists started incorporating rapid fire arpeggiating runs into jazz playing and also more noise oriented techniques (squaking, bleeps, high overtone playing, etc.) he said the young sax players would come into the clubs and want to sit in. They had been influenced by people like Bird and Trane but they had never spent the time to master scalar playing and deep harmonic knowledge that players like that embodied. They were into the 'freedom' aspect of playing but they lacked discipline. After a while, Dizzy said that they began to write songs with rapid chord changes so that if some unknowledgeable but cocky player came up onstage to jam that they would be blown out of the water if they didn't hadn't paid their dues. Another theory I heard is that during World War Two that they had put a tax on dancing in an effort to raise money for the war effort. Club owners felt they couldn't afford to pay the tax so they encouraged musicians to play music that was not so danceable..................swing itself is an infectious rhythm and wonderful to dance to , so the musicians turned to more elaborate chord changes and less 'populous' kinds of melodies (and harmonies). I forget where I read this but it makes a certain kind of sense. I'm no jazz historian (or even an expert on jazz) but I've listened to a lot of music in the history of jazz (and am familiar with all the tracks that Rainer pointed out. I've also read a lot about the phenomenon since my instrument (whose history I have a great love for) was only invented between 1908 or 09 (when the bass drum pedal and snare stand liberated the drummer and allowed him to play three instruments at once, thus eliminating the possibility of being fired from the economic crunch that reduced the New Orleans bands from small big bands to it's present day trios and quartets (or quintets) and 1915 (when the high hat was invented) So, however BeBop developed, one thing is certain...............in a very short order, Jazz went from a populist and visceral music to being more of an intellectual music. It became more complex. There was a great trend towards athletic prowess, speed and dexterity in instrumental playing and tempos, in general start going much, much faster. It just quit being a dance music and, as such , it started to be more cerebral and more like art music. This isn't to say that a lot of BeBop tunes didn't swing, but you hardly think of the style as a danceable one if you get my drift. Why I think that Kind Of Blue was so influential and so popular was partially because it was suddenly much more spacious and because the chord progressions became simpler, melody suddenly came to the fore in the playing of it. It was greatly loved (the facts support that). You don't sell millions of copies of an album unless some chord is hit with the public. You can say that you don't like it, or that you are bugged by the fact that the music was , in a lot of sense, simpler and more atmospheric (it stuck out like a sore thumb in those regards). So Tillman's comment is pretty spot on. Personally, as a drummer and , perhaps because I am really a minimalist at heart in everything I enjoy and do, I loved how the record sounded and also the effect it had on the jazz world after it's release. I loved the whole Blue Note phase that followed it...........the great music of the Miles quintet with Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter and Tony Williams. ...........the beautiful orchestral/jazz that came from Gil Evans involvement with Miles..................the beautiful music of Bill Evans. To try and deny that it was influential is just absurd. To say that there were other important trends going on (Coleman, Rollins, Bruebeck) can stand side by side with the statement that it was hugely influential. Was it the only major influence, of course not. When I was growing up, my father , who loved Bruebeck and played him incessantly in the home I grew up in used to tell me (as later collegiate jazz snobs would) that Bruebeck was a lightweight. But to bring odd time signatures and a lot of unheard ethnic rhythms from around the world into jazz was really a revolutionary thing. To sell more jazz singles in the entire history of jazz with a track that was in 5-4 (that had a drum solo in it, no less) was astonishing. Jazz has been very adventuresome melodically and chordally. From where I sit, it has been almost stupidly conservative, rhythmically speaking (not that there haven't been a lot of people who tried to break out of that and successfully so) I've heard people diss 'Time Out' and "Kind of Blue' all of my life. I think a lot of this is just resentment and jealousy, frankly, because they were so immensely popular. I think Rainer has interesting points but we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I've owned and listened to all of the records that he points out that he thinks were more revolutionary (which by the way, doesn't always mean more influential) and they, frankly, don't move me emotionally or even intellectually as much as "Kind of Blue" does, and no amount of intellectual reasoning or argumentative discourse will talk me out of that feeling. It's just how I feel about it. It's just how I think about it. I"m down with you not agreeing with it, Rainer, and I accept that you don't think it's an important album. I respect how you feel and think about it. I'd love to hear that you can respect me for my take on it, too. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 09:58:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1CBA3BE87; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2uB9PRBFcv7Rq81631TSuKqRnBgmQz053rcoe1xjSCo=; b=rH9VuQ3sog8FOBUiRTq8fdsvmLGF+LuEWCu+TQuqkYynersy9UKy+4M7I+szMeMxD2 S7YjG3niNEIlHTtaxMB1UDWS0lNWB3ngEafTDDjSrt3jN1NQm1pkpkfwudGWvc8R6kx1 4Zhf1I6553YN67P34BfUarFKW5Zk4gRH0NQqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LvB3olNgx+jdO3u53cezFck3+yCUZ4zZCQzZmjeJCn+SRMQHx0/BgM9opOL9ajc8O0 crl1mc5Q38ktwcYcCbD4rMcavowp+ob064ZrOUmGGbyZtQj7T/WWgrOImV62s42Ysivh EokBtIiPf4ieUXIL9FpTeI0m7yvP8cYsFW718= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:58:43 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905220258x15d5257dq82c5676746451f80@mail.gmail.com> Subject: re: Davis' Modal Stuff From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_695aC.A.qUB.UdnFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Rick said: "I"m down with you not agreeing with it, Rainer, and I accept that you don't think it's an important album. I respect how you feel and think about it. I'd love to hear that you can respect me for my take on it, too." By all means, yes, Rick. A lot of that what I said (and that's true for your and other statements, too), is basically based on either personal taste or haphazard theories - so the only established fact remains that it was/is a hugely successful album, and there's no arguing that. As for the rest of the discussion, I didn't see it as a competition to find who's right, but rather to gain understanding, ideas and new viewpoints - mission accomplished from my point of view. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 10:50:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1E643BE87; Fri, 22 May 2009 10:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1404 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 22 May 2009 10:50:17 UTC Message-ID: <4A167DE7.60304@haciendalibre.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:26:47 +0200 From: Ernesto Schnack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff (and other OT) References: <7334ca1b0905211230p2020176aq9f7d3e94a7ae80cc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905211230p2020176aq9f7d3e94a7ae80cc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - pegasus.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - haciendalibre.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill schrieb: > that "Ah Um" was released that same year. And I believe that Andy's > post clearly showed that db's theory that "not a heck of a lot" was > happening at that time is not very...spot-on. > I believe that was a joke referring to your typo ;) Ernesto From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 11:42:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2EE63BE86; Fri, 22 May 2009 11:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:42:19 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090522114219.226560@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090511174013.94k4nspwcg0ss40c@webmail.musetrap.com> <66f9cc1e0905120107h55d29e7fg16790d09a09a3c4c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905120636ma9270aax607b6aa3621a70a5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Record impressions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18cWe4DdoQcOQ5mXGC7aCehV1ZovwSzzSvB6ER0b/ zgLPAVN1nqLJnQss8KN69kRop4Pg8NxuRhYg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: r70kebFvPTR+GJ4oyjMw+ao5c2tpZEs3 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Yesterday, I had a chance to play around with Record on a friend's computer. Sure, the SSL mixer console looks pretty impressive. But personally, I prefer a different DAW approach. For me, just because things work very well in analogue gear doesn't mean it should be emulated 1:1 as software. I prefer minimalistic/integrated approaches to UI like Ableton or Logic 8. But I guess for analogue veterans Record is as good as it gets.... Btw: time stretch was VERY (!!) impressive!!! Way beyond anything I have seen... best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-aktionspreis/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 12:19:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B4AF3BE86; Fri, 22 May 2009 12:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A16983C.7090308@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:19:08 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #633 for May 21, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7QQ3nC.A.JL.KhpFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:19:22 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090521.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #633 May 21, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight was Journey on EH Records. Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#may PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Mark Mahoney A Visit To a Most Beyond the Vaulting Sky (none) Ancient Outpost Mark Mahoney Dance of the Beyond the Vaulting Sky (none) Arachnids Asnazzy Space Bound Voyage To Andromeda (none) Gert Emmens Part 8 The Nearest Faraway Place Vol. 2 (Groove) 33 Tetragammon and Zero Point Resonating Earth (none) Human Metronome 33 Tetragammon and Separate Self * Resonating Earth (none) Human Metronome Gert Emmens and Journey Journey (EH) Ruud Heij 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Gert Emmens and The Endless Running Journey (EH) Ruud Heij Messenger Gert Emmens and A City Awakens Journey (EH) Ruud Heij Gert Emmens and Rolling Thunder in Journey (EH) Ruud Heij the Mountains of Hope Gert Emmens and Red Clouds Over a Journey (EH) Ruud Heij Misty Swamp Gert Emmens and Regaining Breath In Journey (EH) Ruud Heij the Eye of the Storm 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Gert Emmens and Ruud Heij. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Silent Witnesses of Industrial Landscapes on EH Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 13:13:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2738B3BE84; Fri, 22 May 2009 13:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Erdem's new CD in WIRE Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:13:49 +0200 Message-ID: <002d01c9dadf$25d2bd60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acna3yUWsHA1NvMcQB6glQ6XQHuR+g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.168; VDF: 7.1.4.3) Resent-Message-ID: <_-8meD.A.HgC.QUqFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:13:53 +0000 (UTC) congrats to the very positive review in WIRE, Erdem, for your Wounded Breath CD -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 13:14:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609D53BE89; Fri, 22 May 2009 13:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ABrDEnIdOybNTS9hydAIJVUT1HBCnu6WHa6XViT82Os=; b=rclt0X2xpxNrJopSJja/BBzMkcjYppz7t26tfONQT6DtKODYgz4GVkuLp00HJzk4+e 1xgR6LAjfe66gpaUNQD8s35WXj8yOv94cU1O9BDp8iKMvYV0U65JcsvcghB9R7UasBhB P9gBb8i1TyXyfBhgT7bSFGf0XGPNVersgf1WY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oDr7kKcTgL3oGcNbWLHAIBQc6zO5exxpv4qmtGUrSTkmntKU01BBpctmPZFQNOwuQq 38A8lZsy6kVu2OB+vxcFH2UU4U5p9ohGD3VogpxKXb2c213G9A1tOxjATcZOs9YQ8w1g dcjwS9szZB/JQXYx5B3qvd9njId+lE6ZrP96Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090522114219.226560@gmx.net> References: <20090511174013.94k4nspwcg0ss40c@webmail.musetrap.com> <66f9cc1e0905120107h55d29e7fg16790d09a09a3c4c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905120636ma9270aax607b6aa3621a70a5@mail.gmail.com> <20090522114219.226560@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:14:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905220614u34989cen123be7bcd7b391b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Record impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:14:54 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > But I guess for analogue veterans Record is as good as it gets.... Or for recording professionals - i.e. guys that need total stability during the production process in order to get finished on a deadline. In the pro audio world it is a long time standard to deliver projects as audio files, rather than a work document file from some DAW applicatins plus plug-ins. The reason for this standard is that it guarantees full compatibility between production platforms and applications and also gives the best protection against lost backwards compatibility due to software upgrades or discontinued software products. In this regard Record also seems a good deal for musicians that are not pro recordists but do a lot of collaborations with such people. I guess a lot of new Record buyers will be artists that would otherwise have bought ProTools LE. I'm not very interested in Record either, because I already have Logic and appreciate that freedom of signal routing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 13:24:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F17F3BE80; Fri, 22 May 2009 13:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xTuJoBMEyXKt2+TE/vOBnHO0NjuBFUErrJfLe6OamJc=; b=X2OqEEwVI0OUUBiW5fUy2tL9z+VQ4K2NXMW7nK5Fy9dQmwtSlBGwxxA7u8PF1lQx7X nyVKYDX4pm2Y1DqnMBtImg02hVfYGaDptoDKQqpBCyJa+Twmz8K65XU7mRmj3QE3vusV 1ACTghTmBd2tEE9xMhU55XwgdToQnkTw/CJgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GtWL/97/KjXLQ2DBiD5epNNm24TnayvrTy3f/YoabSuJDe1S3aLDscWMYeRNS76dgu aajIgmiohEoh9OUdLSNJkCiDWy7oN20UNLygRVZh2v2irjlz8PNkCSVmTms/ypWQeVI6 CDCqvsGFbwpVvxVdkeHfECfEnHXG3gfCRr+7Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002d01c9dadf$25d2bd60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <002d01c9dadf$25d2bd60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:18:09 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905220618r6a9a4e8dgbe3c17f8a1df9023@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Erdem's new CD in WIRE From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:24:18 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > congrats to the very positive review in WIRE, Erdem, for your Wounded Breath > CD Chiming in on that! Wonderful news. Congratulations, Erdem! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 13:40:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AAFD3BE89; Fri, 22 May 2009 13:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: jayrope LD To: loopers delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Rope Live / today / Berlin / Galerie Erstererster / Pappelallee 69 / 21h Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:40:45 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Ciao fellow loopers, i will cinematically loop myself and drums tonite (Friday 22) at Galerie Erstererster, Pappelallee 69, Berlin, 21h. Admission is free. Nico Lippolis ond drums & me rejoin (as ROPE) to support our fellow friend Jacopo De Marco exhibiting very large format photography. Gorgeous images! Here's a flyer page: http://www.kliklak.net/jdmphoto/ And here's all info: http://kliklak.net/live-dates/rope-galerie-erstererster-berlin-2 See you there, say hi, if you come. - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net (We momentarily play something one could call "cinematic noise rock. But admittedly that's changing every time we play.) - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 13:43:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C93003BE90; Fri, 22 May 2009 13:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1410.67.93.18.211.1242999779.squirrel@mymail3.myregisteredsite.com> In-Reply-To: <4A167DE7.60304@haciendalibre.com> References: <7334ca1b0905211230p2020176aq9f7d3e94a7ae80cc@mail.gmail.com> <4A167DE7.60304@haciendalibre.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff (and other OT) From: db@biink.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_20090522094259_16588" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:43:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_20090522094259_16588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > Rainer Straschill schrieb: >> that "Ah Um" was released that same year. And I believe that Andy's >> post clearly showed that db's theory that "not a heck of a lot" was >> happening at that time is not very...spot-on. >> > > I believe that was a joke referring to your typo ;) > > > Ernesto Now there's someone who's paying attention! DB http://biink.com/db ------=_20090522094259_16588 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >
>
> Rainer Straschill schrieb:
>> that "Ah Um" was released that same year. And I believe that Andy's
>> post clearly showed that db's theory that "not a heck of a lot" was
>> happening at that time is not very...spot-on.
>>
>
> I believe that was a joke referring to your typo ;)
>
>
> Ernesto

Now there's someone who's paying attention!


DB
http://biink.com/db ------=_20090522094259_16588-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 13:47:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8D573BE84; Fri, 22 May 2009 13:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000f01c9dae3$e3dfdbe0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <002d01c9dadf$25d2bd60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: Erdem's new CD in WIRE Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:47:45 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9DAFD.085D40C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:47:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9DAFD.085D40C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow guys! which issue is that on? june? damn, i will not be able to buy = the copy until mid june :( will very much appreciate if you could write me some parts of the = review. it is so weird, i could not get a review for my "altered realities" = album even though my label sent 4 copies, and now i have 2 very good = reviews on may and june issues. such is life i guess. this was a nice birthday present for me :) hahaha :) best to all. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Erdem's new CD in WIRE congrats to the very positive review in WIRE, Erdem, for your Wounded = Breath CD -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9DAFD.085D40C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
wow guys! which issue is that on? june? damn, i will not be able to = buy the=20 copy until mid june :(
 
will very much appreciate if you could write me some parts of the=20 review.
 
it is so weird, i could not get a review for my "altered realities" = album=20 even though my label sent 4 copies, and now i have 2 very good reviews = on may=20 and june issues. such is life i guess.
 
this was a nice birthday present for me :) hahaha :)
 
best to all.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
 
"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus
 
"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael = Peters
To: Loopers = Delight
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:13 = PM
Subject: Erdem's new CD in = WIRE

congrats to the very positive review in WIRE, Erdem, = for your=20 Wounded Breath
CD

-Michael
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9DAFD.085D40C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 14:19:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71BEF3BE8C; Fri, 22 May 2009 14:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 203231659/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.234.75/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.234.75 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkCAPhQFkpPRupL/2dsb2JhbAAI0maECwWITw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,233,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="203231659" Message-ID: <4A16B73A.3080801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:31:22 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff OT References: <7334ca1b0905210758y4cadf0can5cce6e6b3bc654b1@mail.gmail.com> <4A158B8D.9080208@tiscali.co.uk> <007801c9dabb$c0d89a10$0201a8c0@Toshiba> In-Reply-To: <007801c9dabb$c0d89a10$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Well, I think I only jumped into this thread because I'm excited about going to see Ornette next Month ;-) With Kind of Blue, I can read about how it was put together, listen to it, and understand how it was done. Now listening to Ornettes "Tomorrow is the question" (right at the start of 1959, ) How? sounds like the rhythm section is perfectly in tune with the session, as if they were part of the regular band. They weren't, they were drafted in by the record label. ...and some of that album is sparsely melodic to an exaggerated degree. Rick says > So, however BeBop developed, one thing is certain...............in a > very short order, Jazz went from a populist and visceral music > to being more of an intellectual music. c'mon Rick......Mingus not visceral ! :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 14:54:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 696663BE8C; Fri, 22 May 2009 14:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243004085; bh=7rxQGDh+Cy6ejXPGIULSw2EqDio+pQAE/EG58Nt9pe8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UgcaSY6lqg3YVtJ/vmwZUUr2micm126togJO3G1Znwd0B7vByzLOCRaC2EARjyHBCg3Q+zPDga7WhBOGXuaIy5ptUIVhd9BH9Ncws2OmPJyf1lCVAm7KOgavhKLAX2keAAkwzg7NyOdRg/B04jDgMWwtN26a5y7QHN+vc3+bGrc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=slGV9Dq4FFyG5Kuo8jbxCJeniJYmQ8hSAm/7jh6YZTP4b+0wWWAR18cxepXZ507DEcAs0f5vUQcfyDFIcuem6kkhSxvjLBJaUyKcj2lndTs20EkPyIQNarWdZPhlsYn/s77UM2xWzYMob2oB4P+zRH4CNpFlsZeu7QVvWu4Iwe0=; Message-ID: <129063.7536.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8Zt3aIAVM1k0LVJdzTnVEEUsQa3Q8SqQTEczKecVbVlFOnJ8EhCsPbuKtMw5fg6kFp9l_TjnHytJyY1QFqsqz2w1eVNfHwbARC4nZaJFAKD6J_G0fGe2T7mRukbzJKmoii2P.FLgQtit1_R.RbKv.IeJPUrQVATyFEfa_D1IqSmkqWuPRW.44P8oz2ASZ7tXidDHcXT8cgkQz_OPXT888xGpHPiLptLc8q7RoIU1YqZnZ7DO7mxpUdIOaUXlcPE_.V2vGloDcMq3mGYtircl8RcMRuFSsy8nhMOY2pSkITB8zjKr0MHNphgX6DGnnSBpfRAT0jc7Q0bfyo4fRLPn2O20c86aYiYhwAnm X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: OT: Davis Dark Magus // Looping "outside"? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2068530733-1243004084=:7536" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:54:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-2068530733-1243004084=:7536 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: "Dark Magus" is the Davis album to get! i remember hearing about M. Davis' material from the 70's back in interview= s w/ various guitarists in GP in 80's, and then Davis' work came up again whe= n DT's "Prezens" disc came out...and i love the interplay of DT's band in the improvised setting....so one day when i was at my fave used cd place (well it used to be "records", although they still have vinyl there), and they had the album "dark magus", said it was live from concerts in early 70s. so i took a chance and bought it. wow, it's the densest material i've ever heard. i'm not sure how to describe it. but it is good. now if my 80's begi= nning to play guitar wanna be metal head self heard it, i probably wouldn't have = liked it, but i love it today (i think my ears are tuned to more sounds now, mayb= e i'm=20 mature or old or something....).the funny thing is that music is over 35 yr= s old & it sounds so now/contemporary to me its amazing.... RE:Looping is a way I have found.. Sometimes I wonder=A0how "outside" you c= an play and still call it music... i had a thought about this a few yrs ago when i was playing w/ different tu= nings & looping... i'm not sure if i really came up w/ anything new outisde what Fahey (et al)= or sonic youth have probably explored, but it was mind opening for me, it did make m= e play differently, chord shapes i knew sounded different obviously, the 2 thoughts i had was: = well you can't play cover tunes in these tunings (& i'm HORRIBLE @ playing covers) & my ot= her thought in this exploration was: why bother tuning at all? funnny thing after this i w= ent back to standard tuning (well standard down to D) and have been doing that ever sin= ce.... oh well... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den =A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-2068530733-1243004084=:7536 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
RE: "Dark Magus" is the Davis album to g=
et!

i remember hearing about M. Davis' material from the 70's back i=
n interviews
w/ various guitarists in GP in 80's, and then Davis' work c=
ame up again when
DT's "Prezens" disc came out...and i love the interpla=
y of DT's band in the
improvised setting....so one day when i was at my =
fave used cd place (well
it used to be "records", although they still ha=
ve vinyl there), and they
had the album "dark magus", said it was live f=
rom concerts in early 70s.
so i took a chance and bought it. wow, it's t=
he densest material i've ever
heard. i'm not sure how to describe it. bu=
t it is good. now if my 80's beginning
to play guitar wanna be metal hea=
d self heard it, i probably wouldn't have liked
it, but i love it today =
(i think my ears are tuned to more sounds now, maybe i'm 
mature or old =
or
 something....).the funny thing is that music is over 35 yrs old
& i=
t sounds so now/contemporary to me its amazing....

RE:Looping is a w=
ay I have found.. Sometimes I wonder how "outside" you can play and st=
ill call it music...

i had a thought about this a few yrs ago when i=
 was playing w/ different tunings & looping...
i'm not sure if i rea=
lly came up w/ anything new outisde what Fahey (et al) or sonic
youth ha=
ve probably explored, but it was mind opening for me, it did make me play d=
ifferently,
chord shapes i knew sounded different obviously, the 2 thoug=
hts i had was: well you can't
play cover tunes in these tunings (& i=
'm HORRIBLE @ playing covers) & my other thought in
this exploration=
 was: why bother tuning at all? funnny thing after this i went back to
s=
tandard tuning (well standard down to D) and have been doing that ever sinc=
e....
oh well...
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
http://vide=
o.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121
http:=
//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den=

 

=0A=0A --0-2068530733-1243004084=:7536-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 15:08:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A18923BE8E; Fri, 22 May 2009 15:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o4BnXyeX7sHsDJ+KIsdSqrK139EBHVQ+PSJc9FWT+KU=; b=My8rNIai6LEdVKS7FQKIwC5KP1klBOvwkgGXxIvm6FhY/s1s0Td92xlsw4ndMAYJi0 HSQL0yY46LUvCkCaXjiJz4KGxyLeucnwFtS96sCrI92WgnlrYTbEzJwphZmEQHpdKHhO eAnsglTclkxu6akzz1i9fKJFNhweAaaE0FR6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dhhpMBKg4j7oubVYiVLAb115s4LvcndMW5ymyX5ZLC3z19CGjSmvHRq/H+GB3vWUTn jsM4YUYzLn9QuDitRfNpO7W6Rxy53b5KmUK1uzY84dFqzoA+kikBDuMK6mt0tLMcIBQR +aeN2xh1qv6VWU3aACKdVHDOPXKBLpgumruHU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A165ADB.1080003@tiscali.co.uk> References: <008401c7b1db$1d41bc70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <498313.36631.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c9daaf$50306290$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A165ADB.1080003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:07:56 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750905220807q4dde84f2ibfc49fd7793a76e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: midi volume pedal From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6475d881a1c23046a81a050 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:08:03 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6475d881a1c23046a81a050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ernie ball junior? supposed to be smaller and therefore lighter...but i gotta ask: how is the normal eb pedal too heavy? - j --0016e6475d881a1c23046a81a050 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ernie ball junior?=A0 supposed to be smaller and therefore lighter...but i = gotta ask: how is the normal eb pedal too heavy?=A0

- j
--0016e6475d881a1c23046a81a050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 15:28:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A48463BE88; Fri, 22 May 2009 15:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=M3zu5sNhYQLUDuPneCaolquOM53/qlKC+PxcUluJvlU=; b=yD+BOdpEshNmcQDndlwF3ntHTaLf3b6znfPLcl+xokW6WlBqAlUZMUzSL1xZ9lKrHy wIkdOSqrDzqKnjFfRZaqQPwDKHkbcLzn41WQPDUEXr0MMHPz50aeyEBhbAe1b289lXF2 HXOr3BBUWbgmtkAMiI5dBjUxcl7NSHq8IPzO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c7zEdsvs9QR7XyyqdxukE1tvn7zJTFGWOOy5PrdF6D3ZWoBNqNIUSUJrc4vK1iKJze FwsyNwAvb/3ZtA0FC842nUmFdxYlRN1fpcl3RV1m+QomJ1QGxLp4FevMYpmviQ4NHtgW wtzvG3VaW0Np90pY9ny/weWTPK27eQ5Tu+P08= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000f01c9dae3$e3dfdbe0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> References: <002d01c9dadf$25d2bd60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <000f01c9dae3$e3dfdbe0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:28:06 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905220828g45df3038i31836f7955683983@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Erdem's new CD in WIRE From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b6803da05b046a81e8bb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:28:09 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b6803da05b046a81e8bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's the link or is it hardcopy review only? Regardless congratulations Erdem that's wonderful and happy birthday. jim On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > wow guys! which issue is that on? june? damn, i will not be able to buy > the copy until mid june :( > > will very much appreciate if you could write me some parts of the review. > > it is so weird, i could not get a review for my "altered realities" album > even though my label sent 4 copies, and now i have 2 very good reviews on > may and june issues. such is life i guess. > > this was a nice birthday present for me :) hahaha :) > > best to all. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Michael Peters > *To:* Loopers Delight > *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 4:13 PM > *Subject:* Erdem's new CD in WIRE > > congrats to the very positive review in WIRE, Erdem, for your Wounded > Breath > CD > > -Michael > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b6803da05b046a81e8bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What's the link or is it hardcopy review only?=A0 Regardless congr= atulations Erdem that's wonderful and happy birthday.
=A0
jim

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Erdem Helvaciog= lu <erdemhel@tnn.n= et> wrote:
wow guys! which issue is that on? june? damn, i will not be able to bu= y the copy until mid june :(
=A0
will very much appreciate if you could write me some parts of the revi= ew.
=A0
it is so weird, i could not get a review for my "altered realitie= s" album even though my label sent 4 copies, and now i have 2 very goo= d reviews on may and june issues. such is life i guess.
=A0
this was a nice birthday present for me :) hahaha :)
=A0
best to all.
=A0
=A0
"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics= , Richard Marcus
=A0
"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."= ;
Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:13 PM
Subject: Erdem's new CD in WIRE<= /div>

congrats to the very positive review in WIRE, Erdem, for you= r Wounded Breath
CD

-Michael



--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming= soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5b6803da05b046a81e8bb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 15:33:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44C943BE91; Fri, 22 May 2009 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=M/dCxHZYox8hkeMd6hym4iY/HGAC+RiTk4JaueGXTSI=; b=th6ekqum9Xca94kZqJEHvJjIk6I1EE4uI/9Wi+asa6LuyYqVT1FhdnJPDNppZb4Tls k/MFdyTUuEVo+pwvTA9EIEqnhDJLTMBdEC0KTqXMgFbVUOkzmjPqWYKVhkwtvfsV8wUD 6zzYCL4NAK+ohH0ABtzb8D6SxMtWx6pKLaMpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bsAzYBu5y5OCImxAvX5RCLEflYt3BwGvfvGUAlf33KyzpGDbF+5ElIN0oow0fxiBIE ZyotDr/pplzGLskO0vlCnkQ2QAQS6+UuQ7twhiuh0EI28I4MNUG/6YI5jcaL52PwRNA9 HSvDPXEysd/JmWPIYzwc2iXbj807EGsDkd2pQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <129063.7536.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <129063.7536.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:33:31 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905220833p64991c8dl928a07e9bf9e4b99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Davis Dark Magus // Looping "outside"? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, scott hansen wrote: > my other thought in > this exploration was: why bother tuning at all? Interesting approach. I've been adapting this philosophy in the studio when recording vocals; making sure no one sings in tune or in any kind of "musically sounding" voice and then mixing those layers rather softly behind the lead (that of course is in tune and "musically sounding"). This trick can create a great feel and attitude in a vocal lead track - so why shouldn't it be possible for guitar as well? Related association: BTW, the few times I had a chance to hear Sonny Sharrock play guitar live it seemed that most tonal aspects were just left for random while the rhythmic attack and sonic frenzy were the the departments where he came through with tremendous power. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 15:40:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2CC13BE88; Fri, 22 May 2009 15:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 432 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 22 May 2009 15:40:08 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hrg9xOseBh3ypKStEax9trKnah/jBodongoJAdDlBD8=; b=AM/VZF1gCHvFmVNILcG/bmWkEeNU31uz16dJiIiVF+xPdeP4p8NCcsJKqhT3/hqwjt Uzm4QLOh9kEoeFYMBJTsbrGLdAhXpex1N0hhyRChzFQ+UmtfdfmRTlxqwrJgP3bRdYtS grnbaE18opJKFCXZ3E/FuiJYnPPr0b8w29KbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mSr9pFDDiJveCvx0dXHJDe6Zhz3nRM9Xg7wO3aJ1lryRN+MwcJ89kgj7e2prQz1YfA yeG2z8uW6m4Kp1ASqOoZBnQjidcE7TJmGGOy3ftZiN9Wgj8xytDUi/QhEnV97xYWlwup BEZ0gcbI3nrKls0TCBFJDxBtQFu81GdFhSoU4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905220258x15d5257dq82c5676746451f80@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905220258x15d5257dq82c5676746451f80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:32:43 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905220832g347eb7f4q62e95e7a1a34a6e0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Davis' Modal Stuff From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:40:08 +0000 (UTC) I found both sides intrigueing and downloaded "Shape of... " and "Kind of Blue" and re-listened. The history in general adds a lot of context for me. Coolio! -m On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Rick said: > "I"m down with you not agreeing with it, Rainer, =A0and I accept that you > don't think it's an important album. > I respect how you feel and think about it. =A0 =A0 I'd love to hear that = you > can respect me for my take on it, too." > > By all means, yes, Rick. A lot of that what I said (and that's true > for your and other statements, too), is basically based on either > personal taste or haphazard theories - so the only established fact > remains that it was/is a hugely successful album, and there's no > arguing that. > As for the rest of the discussion, I didn't see it as a competition to > find who's right, but rather to gain understanding, ideas and new > viewpoints - mission accomplished from my point of view. > > Best, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From jschaoli@jsmail.com.cn Fri May 22 17:52:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2845 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 22 May 2009 17:52:38 UTC Received: from jlonline.com (pip41.ptt.js.cn [61.155.13.217]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 077593BE7F for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 17:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User([121.245.90.105]) by ptt.js.cn(AIMC 3.2.0.0) with SMTP id jm434a173227; Sat, 23 May 2009 01:03:10 +0800 Reply-To: From: "John Mukhabe" Subject: Re: Business Partnership offer Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:04:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AIMC-AUTH: jschaoli:jsmail X-AIMC-MAILFROM: jschaoli@jsmail.com.cn Message-ID: X-AIMC-Msg-ID: oYQJ8HWB To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: John Mukhabe 178 Jason Moyo Layouts Harare-Zimbabwe. 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Best regards John Mukhabe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 18:54:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 021803BE88; Fri, 22 May 2009 18:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-570772400 From: Rev Fever Subject: Dickie Landry Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:54:20 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:54:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-570772400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who was doing live solo saxophone looping performances in Texas Louisiana (and?) whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that he had released a CD back in 2006,of which I just recently found out about, and it is SUPERB! 3 long and beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy. I remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry and his story, but could never find anything by him to check out. Definitely REVcommended! Here is where to obtain a copy and support this very special artist, who is also an excellent painter, as well. http://www.waydowninlouisiana.com/store.html Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a founding member of the Philip Glass Ensemble and has worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert Rauschenberg, and host of other luminaries. Enjoy! L8r, rezon8ors! Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" which presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out of print, and any copies that can be found usually are sold for high prices. Maybe if he got enough interest generated by others, that he would consider reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above label, but do not know for sure? (Or..?) --Apple-Mail-4-570772400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who was = doing live solo saxophone looping performances in Texas=A0Louisiana = (and?)=A0
whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that = he had released a CD back in 2006,of which I just recently found out = about, and it is SUPERB! =A0=A0
3 long and beautiful, = atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy.

I = remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry and his story, = but could never find anything by him to check out.=A0
Definitely= REVcommended!

Here is where to obtain a copy = and support this very special artist, who is also an excellent painter, = as well.

Also, previously = unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a founding member of the Philip = Glass Ensemble and
has worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking = Heads, painter Robert Rauschenberg, and host of other = luminaries.

Enjoy!

L8r, = rezon8ors!
Rev Fever

PS-He also released an LP way long ago = entitled "12 Saxophones" which presents his very early looping artistry, = but it is long out of print,
and any copies that can be found = usually are sold for high prices. Maybe if he got enough interest = generated by others, that he would consider
reissuing it onto = CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above label, but do not know = for sure? =A0(Or..?)

= --Apple-Mail-4-570772400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 19:08:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC2BD3BE86; Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hRaHTQTN7KiX7vaDfWSWe9cVe3Fh7qFT83TSc7mgwa0=; b=ob6KZhM2kv7Qj31eSoVmQq6QH0i2dePU+/YAGbsd5LVcHZliMq96k4vhO0CFBppFsB I5TxkvI6FN2HmvWUjfWhx8WAF9bt2tcQJ8eDo9sgjkBToJ5YgP69r379w87czYDEaGqB NS1NmuOoz+w5N5RwR9EZT3SlMfUlIKYyjvNRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sb1lTkR/OsGaxW3WpA5zUO0M/m8rubLn9sJwU0hbSQso4mMtqaYju0bs8NKgWNxZZl fdC086nclsQ1tXP8iZhcEiW2FxsPJNNslnQpOnw+tw6mnwRFW39ehx9dOtj1xL2RprDy F/mXmeCTV1Uyt0cKM1FQKQq4NGJg+NP5zBBik= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 21:08:31 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905221208l7cca7727n7a124eb006fd7de5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Dickie Landry From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:31 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Rev Fever wrote: > Dickie Landry I've heard the name too (not only on my old Philip Glass record covers) and unsuccessfully tried to find hos solo music. Great to know at least where a CD can be ordered. I will continue look for a digital online store for this though, because more piles of CDs is the least thing I need around here ;-) Found it! 256 kbps available at Amazon.com!!!! Getting it. Thank you for the hint, Rev. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 19:40:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD2F73BE8C; Fri, 22 May 2009 19:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905221208l7cca7727n7a124eb006fd7de5@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905221208l7cca7727n7a124eb006fd7de5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-573547499 Message-Id: <3C74A122-3930-46E4-A185-73B5BDCE3DDB@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Dickie Landry Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:40:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:40:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-573547499 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On May 22, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Rev Fever > wrote: >> Dickie Landry > > I've heard the name too (not only on my old Philip Glass record > covers) and unsuccessfully tried to find hos solo music. Great to know > at least where a CD can be ordered. I will continue look for a digital > online store for this though, because more piles of CDs is the least > thing I need around here ;-) > > Found it! 256 kbps available at Amazon.com!!!! Getting it. > > Thank you for the hint, Rev. > > Per > Hey Per, Glad ya found a download for it. As for me, if I can get an actual physical product, I will do so, especially for the printed insert, and tray card, and any artwork that in imprinted on the CD itself, and even more so for any booklet that may come with it. That is not always the case with digital downloads. As for space being taken up here at home for CDs, and LPs (and...?) well, I just make "adjustments", and / or get rid of, or "sacrifice" something else non-music related in the home to MAKE room for MORE MUSIC. :-) I also like to help an artist, or an indy label to recoup their initial investment of having an actual physical product manufactured for sale. And also, it is always kool to look around my place, or to go to someone else's place and see WALLS and WALLS of CDs and LPs (and...?) to be able to be handled and looked at, along with hearing! Cheers! Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-6-573547499 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On May 22, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com> = wrote:
Dickie = Landry
I've heard the name too (not = only on my old Philip Glass record
covers) and = unsuccessfully tried to find hos solo music. Great to know
at least where a CD can be ordered. I will continue = look for a digital
online store for this = though, because more piles of CDs is the least
thing I need around here ;-)

Found = it! 256 kbps available at Amazon.com!!!! Getting it.

Thank = you for the hint, Rev.
Per

=

Hey Per,

Glad = ya found a download for it. As for me, if I can get an actual physical = product, I will do so, especially for the printed insert, and tray = card,
and any artwork that in imprinted on the CD itself,=A0and even = more so for any booklet that may come with it. That is not always the = case with digital downloads.=A0
As for space being =A0taken up = here at home for CDs, and LPs (and...?) well, I just make "adjustments", = and / or get rid of, or "sacrifice" something else=A0
non-music = related in the home to MAKE room for MORE MUSIC. = :-)=A0

I =A0also like to help an artist, or an = indy label to recoup their initial investment of=A0having an actual = physical product manufactured for sale.=A0
And also, it is = always kool to look around my place, or to go to someone else's = place=A0and see WALLS and WALLS of CDs and LPs (and...?)=A0
to = be able to be handled and looked at, along with = hearing!=A0

= --Apple-Mail-6-573547499-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 19:55:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F7CD3BE90; Fri, 22 May 2009 19:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qAYVtOB5GELzvSLDu6Y/fwgAUGRaX4USYDVVe/1Or/0=; b=c3m4yHTXt42/tOoc02msowyEJDE4XNDjwsuOEpVgRfrjYIGHaf1YjYQ1DajsexUMGB k83sJtVLPPPWe2STP+iHfuIdS+VRxEbdP7VyA4GEPV6fNudgKNauHL8lJUT/SDBpG23D VYejuTe7htIW4RiICmLt9Ni6MLoc8Ulaschqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fOI3RNH1xShYEvr0/Zu1/gIo0YpdjJhQwHn4zfTZMJ3smo6YCAlkxiVgcMMhqNRZ/O sLj3J/EGC7ozLy39/wV79SRr4M57DNiEH+0pdoTEeZk7cgsJ06WRUA7Ylowu6M90XpZB PX8sJ2yCGS6AIEQa6WX/It4G58ekmhMpm8zvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:55:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dickie Landry From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369fa2ca245a34046a85a3d3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:55:09 +0000 (UTC) --0016369fa2ca245a34046a85a3d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks. I saw Richard Landry play in 1984, he was touring with Laurie Anderson. Fantastic. He also appears on her 'Home of the Brave' concert film. I don't recall him working with Talking Heads, can you point to his contribution? On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Rev Fever wrote: > Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who was doing > live solo saxophone looping performances in Texas Louisiana (and?) whose > name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that he had released a CD back > in 2006,of which I just recently found out about, and it is SUPERB! > 3 long and beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy. > I remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry and his story, but > could never find anything by him to check out. > Definitely REVcommended! > > Here is where to obtain a copy and support this very special artist, who is > also an excellent painter, as well. > http://www.waydowninlouisiana.com/store.html > > Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a founding member of > the Philip Glass Ensemble and > has worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert > Rauschenberg, and host of other luminaries. > > Enjoy! > > L8r, rezon8ors! > Rev Fever > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > > PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" which > presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out of print, > and any copies that can be found usually are sold for high prices. Maybe if > he got enough interest generated by others, that he would consider > reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above label, > but do not know for sure? (Or..?) > > --0016369fa2ca245a34046a85a3d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. I saw Richard Landry play in 1984, he was touring with Laurie Ander= son. Fantastic. He also appears on her 'Home of the Brave' concert = film. I don't recall him working with Talking Heads, can you point to h= is contribution?

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Rev Fever = <revfever@u= bergadget.com> wrote:
Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who was doin= g live solo saxophone looping performances in Texas=A0Louisiana (and?)=A0whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that he had released= a CD back in 2006,of which I just recently found out about, and it is SUPE= RB! =A0=A0
3 long and beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy.
<= br>
I remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry = and his story, but could never find anything by him to check out.=A0
Definitely REVcommended!

Here is where to obt= ain a copy and support this very special artist, who is also an excellent p= ainter, as well.

Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a= founding member of the Philip Glass Ensemble and
has worked with= Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert Rauschenberg, and host of o= ther luminaries.

Enjoy!

L8r, rezon8ors!
Rev Fever

PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" = which presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out of print= ,
and any copies that can be found usually are sold for high prices. May= be if he got enough interest generated by others, that he would consider
reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above= label, but do not know for sure? =A0(Or..?)


--0016369fa2ca245a34046a85a3d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 20:32:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 379D33BE8D; Fri, 22 May 2009 20:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Dickie Landry Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:32:01 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: harryesq@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CBA9337F1EEF8E_1118_1F51_WEBMAIL-DC09.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42951-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CBA9337F17C868-1118-F25@WEBMAIL-DC09.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:32:21 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CBA9337F1EEF8E_1118_1F51_WEBMAIL-DC09.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I found the album on emusic.com.? Very nice stuff.? Thanks for the heads up. Harry -----Original Message----- From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, 22 May 2009 3:55 pm Subject: Re: Dickie Landry Thanks. I saw Richard Landry play in 1984, he was touring with Laurie Anderson. Fantastic. He also appears on her 'Home of the Brave' concert film. I don't recall him working with Talking Heads, can you point to his contribution? On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Rev Fever wrote: Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who was doing live solo saxophone looping performances in Texas?Louisiana (and?)? whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that he had released a CD back in 2006,of which I just recently found out about, and it is SUPERB! ?? 3 long and beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy. I remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry and his story, but could never find anything by him to check out.? Definitely REVcommended! Here is where to obtain a copy and support this very special artist, who is also an excellent painter, as well. http://www.waydowninlouisiana.com/store.html Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a founding member of the Philip Glass Ensemble and has worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert Rauschenberg, and host of other luminaries. Enjoy! L8r, rezon8ors! Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" which presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out of print, and any copies that can be found usually are sold for high prices. Maybe if he got enough interest generated by others, that he would consider reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above label, but do not know for sure? ?(Or..?) ----------MB_8CBA9337F1EEF8E_1118_1F51_WEBMAIL-DC09.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I found the album on emusic.com.  Very nice stuff.  Thanks for the heads up.

Harry


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Billow <mbillow@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, 22 May 2009 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Dickie Landry

Thanks. I saw Richard Landry play in 1984, he was touring with Laurie Anderson. Fantastic. He also appears on her 'Home of the Brave' concert film. I don't recall him working with Talking Heads, can you point to his contribution?

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who was doing live solo saxophone looping performances in Texas Louisiana (and?) 
whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that he had released a CD back in 2006,of which I just recently found out about, and it is SUPERB!   
3 long and beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy.

I remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry and his story, but could never find anything by him to check out. 
Definitely REVcommended!

Here is where to obtain a copy and support this very special artist, who is also an excellent painter, as well.

Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a founding member of the Philip Glass Ensemble and
has worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert Rauschenberg, and host of other luminaries.

Enjoy!

L8r, rezon8ors!
Rev Fever

PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" which presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out of print,
and any copies that can be found usually are sold for high prices. Maybe if he got enough interest generated by others, that he would consider
reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above label, but do not know for sure?  (Or..?)


----------MB_8CBA9337F1EEF8E_1118_1F51_WEBMAIL-DC09.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 20:37:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCCEF3BE87; Fri, 22 May 2009 20:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-576981903 Message-Id: From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Dickie Landry Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:37:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:37:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-576981903 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On May 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Michael Billow wrote: > Thanks. I saw Richard Landry play in 1984, he was touring with > Laurie Anderson. Fantastic. He also appears on her 'Home of the > Brave' concert film. I don't recall him working with Talking Heads, > can you point to his contribution? 'Dickie Landry, who had performed with Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, and Philip Glass, returned to his parish roots in the group.;' http://www.nojazzfest.com/chat/archive/index.php/t-3038.html I also just stumbled across this VERY KOOL live radio interview with Mr. Landry from Feb,4th, 2009! Recent! He also explains a little bit about his early looping using 2 Revox tape recorders and other great biographical information. What an INCREDIBLE career! REVcommended! Check it out! Enjoy! (link the "hour 2"" of the show) http://americanroutes.publicradio.org/archives/artist/206/dickie-landry Cheers! Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Rev Fever > wrote: > Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who > was doing live solo saxophone looping performances in Texas > Louisiana (and?) > whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that he had > released a CD back in 2006,of which I just recently found out > about, and it is SUPERB! > 3 long and beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy. > > I remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry and his > story, but could never find anything by him to check out. > Definitely REVcommended! > > Here is where to obtain a copy and support this very special > artist, who is also an excellent painter, as well. > http://www.waydowninlouisiana.com/store.html > > Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a founding > member of the Philip Glass Ensemble and > has worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert > Rauschenberg, and host of other luminaries. > > Enjoy! > > L8r, rezon8ors! > Rev Fever > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > > PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" > which presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out > of print, > and any copies that can be found usually are sold for high prices. > Maybe if he got enough interest generated by others, that he would > consider > reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above > label, but do not know for sure? (Or..?) --Apple-Mail-4-576981903 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On May 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Michael Billow = wrote:

Thanks. I saw Richard Landry play in 1984, he was touring = with Laurie Anderson. Fantastic. He also appears on her 'Home of the = Brave' concert film. I don't recall him working with Talking Heads, can = you point to his contribution?

'Dickie Landry, who had performed with Talking Heads, Laurie = Anderson, and Philip Glass, returned to his parish roots in the = group.;'

I also just stumbled across this VERY KOOL = live radio interview with Mr. Landry from Feb,4th, 2009! = Recent!
He also explains a little bit about his early = looping using 2 Revox tape recorders and other great biographical = information. =A0What an INCREDIBLE = career!=A0

REVcommended!=A0Check it out! Enjoy!
(link the "hour = 2"" of the show)

Cheers!=A0
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:54 = AM, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping = pioneer artist who was doing live solo saxophone looping performances in = Texas=A0Louisiana (and?)=A0
whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the = GOOD news is that he had released a CD back in 2006,of which I just = recently found out about, and it is SUPERB! =A0=A0
3 long and = beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true = joy.

I remembered in the very early 80's hearing = about Landry and his story, but could never find anything by him to = check out.=A0
Definitely = REVcommended!

Here is where to obtain a copy = and support this very special artist, who is also an excellent painter, = as well.
=

Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry = was a founding member of the Philip Glass Ensemble and
has = worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert Rauschenberg, = and host of other luminaries.
=

Enjoy!

L8r, rezon8ors!
Rev Fever

PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" = which presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out of = print,
and any copies that can be found usually are sold for = high prices. Maybe if he got enough interest generated by others, that = he would consider
reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be = contacted thru the above label, but do not know for sure? =A0(Or..?)
= =

<= /html>= --Apple-Mail-4-576981903-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 21:18:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE3973BE86; Fri, 22 May 2009 21:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8tbdvOdVeIe1185sp8gZFvGeBwcdAKWgH6TlumtwGFw=; b=wumZbA2yKEdxPrB3IdpXIEInfibfbz0rBEoTL7W8U7FBWwdFPg5ELIScug9w79XuA/ 385+HohX1VgNoIyQwz1RWUIDqyD4M+rfJWNwKfYQk8RpaAqoT76RaOfvUc6pwP7pXp/b dSrmiK4116kI7xD2oW2bXPcW0cRnVNLNvgKPo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oTMsZgr9ysMUznh/x76Kuz4r1sVxIGoHWTkm8+J3h9ej/R+LGi4OIybMdPmFXgVCTv GJov2JFx+Nw3gxcYkL4YtviC7mGS0YjK9lh5pRu8GWz7t4uxA2pX6S94piaZaQo2n8EB 8XLt0G9HIoWC/JY9yrxr2RTO1xV/s5cYp4NlU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:18:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dickie Landry From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 21:18:27 +0000 (UTC) I was worked for Roma Baron (Laurie's producer) on that film. Richard was a super nice guy as well as an amazing musician.. hell you couldn't spit without hitting an amazing musican on that project! Shooting the shit with him and Belew... Good times... On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Rev Fever wrote: > > On May 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Michael Billow wrote: > > Thanks. I saw Richard Landry play in 1984, he was touring with Laurie > Anderson. Fantastic. He also appears on her 'Home of the Brave' concert > film. I don't recall him working with Talking Heads, can you point to his > contribution? > > 'Dickie Landry, who had performed with Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, an= d > Philip Glass, returned to his parish roots in the group.;' > http://www.nojazzfest.com/chat/archive/index.php/t-3038.html > I also just stumbled across this VERY KOOL live radio interview with Mr. > Landry from Feb,4th, 2009! Recent! > He also explains a little bit about his early looping using 2 Revox tape > recorders and other great biographical information. =A0What an INCREDIBLE > career! > REVcommended!=A0Check it out! Enjoy! > (link the "hour 2"" of the show) > http://americanroutes.publicradio.org/archives/artist/206/dickie-landry > Cheers! > Rev Fever > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Rev Fever wro= te: >> >> Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who was >> doing live solo saxophone looping performances in Texas=A0Louisiana (and= ?) >> whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that he had released= a >> CD back in 2006,of which I just recently found out about, and it is SUPE= RB! >> >> 3 long and beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy. >> I remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry and his story, >> but could never find anything by him to check out. >> Definitely REVcommended! >> Here is where to obtain a copy and support this very special artist, who >> is also an excellent painter, as well. >> http://www.waydowninlouisiana.com/store.html >> Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a founding member = of >> the Philip Glass Ensemble and >> has worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert >> Rauschenberg, and host of other luminaries. >> Enjoy! >> L8r, rezon8ors! >> Rev Fever >> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ >> PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" which >> presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out of print, >> and any copies that can be found usually are sold for high prices. Maybe >> if he got enough interest generated by others, that he would consider >> reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above labe= l, >> but do not know for sure? =A0(Or..?) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 21:58:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 162253BE7F; Fri, 22 May 2009 21:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5VDYZzNracCyr45rXkZNFcKgnitsfmu/2Pd7f/IfLUk=; b=oYm+X7B8WzgBf9QsxbiYhWn75jtZL6cXxKzlmM2kSE4PVPCT7eHd3p7u/iKf8yjQ3T 8ODsrFE+oFZ9O8pKg+SPA4Cr82dUGnAvsOH1Uj3bcIlqEfQ2gg2LapXck2mu9oKrfhPt OJrnbKd0BBu9kJpY8EIo5HkeXa1X6HYYsgQn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mopA9NpSTBUQx0btLSINTKNmOTJvDWPrBZE+hMwiNIDxgIKXw9p+4lzmSqkfnrmw9Z o72Q3WcpSK0kdvJGZ5t+SWWvGjtAKBSbwL1gw+Ha49odKNKs2MY2BMAH9o36mie4o0Nc +Xg3bfXn3cTFr1pjEVgMlC9NBb2Zh11c25TBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905221208l7cca7727n7a124eb006fd7de5@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905221208l7cca7727n7a124eb006fd7de5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:33:37 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905221433j6d00de43q5e0d72a95a18b185@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Dickie Landry From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 21:58:03 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Found it! 256 kbps available at Amazon.com!!!! Getting it. ...well, that turned out impossible since Amazon have not yet worked out necessary deals regarding music rights licensing, tax legislation or whatever with this territory, Sweden. But I'm listening anyway to this wonderful music right now because I was lucky to find it on Spotify! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 22 22:20:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13E5F3BE80; Fri, 22 May 2009 22:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lyUJn8oR4GHLEYDdofXo5BV3ulcQ+ybGsD73g+QM7vQ=; b=Z/D5dYzYHcBzoRSaM6JCthLD6WsDC2cj6U6my3cGVylN9xcUPSndcnPMBcS536PIc6 tJV3UUn96pgVh88yTIeny0AdINGbG20C/3BIj2dj3KmgGd4JwrLpidBvsOozEMlUl7dq 2qoGCzDtMeuqAHtGHoNqJbCxscDE3OEmszsZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j7WhMoj7hmMYGVL9IKo9vhIqyNZTT6141Q8lFGR8TjHzFBdphWAlE9Pp1aSTWTDu3F 0J/mkiJOY2D/yZZCtJVYrqbej4Ffen5sUd5VIemzO8FDs4e3YoaXzVCR/iWzOQUQ1Wu5 Y4sX99wE8yV1lHdgih+5SLrFmt3+nVXMHpDO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905221433j6d00de43q5e0d72a95a18b185@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905221208l7cca7727n7a124eb006fd7de5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905221433j6d00de43q5e0d72a95a18b185@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 00:20:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dickie Landry From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4sgumB.A.vqF.vUyFKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 22:20:31 +0000 (UTC) ... so then you can save disk space not keeping those *big* 256 kb mp3s that fill da computer in a hurry ... :-) 2009/5/22, Per Boysen : > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Found it! 256 kbps available at Amazon.com!!!! Getting it. > > > ...well, that turned out impossible since Amazon have not yet worked > out necessary deals regarding music rights licensing, tax legislation > or whatever with this territory, Sweden. But I'm listening anyway to > this wonderful music right now because I was lucky to find it on > Spotify! > > Per > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 01:14:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 247953BE7F; Sat, 23 May 2009 01:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A174DE6.1090905@dehnhard.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:14:14 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Dickie Landry References: <66f9cc1e0905221208l7cca7727n7a124eb006fd7de5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905221433j6d00de43q5e0d72a95a18b185@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905221433j6d00de43q5e0d72a95a18b185@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18hwWkJcVC9fRjs9/joy2FWcDwE9AS02nIIcFz LIT0AXqIBgOs2jiEc8y9m7HhBs7tNtu5dFE1NbTzNmiwsg4jcr v/C3BrFJFernIuZxJq6XIt3DXAtgExP Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 01:14:23 +0000 (UTC) i tried to find some richard landry on the web to no avail. anybody have excerpts of his video work? i'd be glad to have just a glimpse... this is all i found: http://www.vdb.org/smackn.acgi$artistdetail?LANDRYR tilmann Per Boysen schrieb: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Found it! 256 kbps available at Amazon.com!!!! Getting it. > > > ...well, that turned out impossible since Amazon have not yet worked > out necessary deals regarding music rights licensing, tax legislation > or whatever with this territory, Sweden. But I'm listening anyway to > this wonderful music right now because I was lucky to find it on > Spotify! > > Per > > From mark.derrick@londonmail.com Sat May 23 03:31:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 386 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 23 May 2009 03:31:29 UTC Received: from trebuchet.blacklight.net (trebuchet.blacklight.net [69.65.20.254]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8593BE78 for ; Sat, 23 May 2009 03:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 71372 invoked from network); 23 May 2009 03:24:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail.blacklight.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 May 2009 03:24:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:24:47 -0700 From: "Mr. Mark Derrick" To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: From Mark Derrick Reply-To: clarkjean78@yahoo.com.hk Message-ID: <1b4147907f434f08c3f9af88123f1948@blacklight.net> X-Sender: mark.derrick@londonmail.com User-Agent: Blacklight Networks Webmail Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" -- Dear Friend, My name is Mr. Mark Derrick, Personal Offshore Accountant to Mr. Vicente Carrillo Leyva, the arrested drug cartel in Mexico that was arrested recently who is presently in jail. I have the documents of a large amount of funds which he handed over to me before he was arrested thereby leading to the freezing of his finances and assets in his country by the Mexican government. After searching through the books of your Country's Chambers of Commerce and Industries here in Europe, I am contacting you to assist me to re-profile the funds and equally invest same on his behalf. The total amount of funds to be re-profiled is Forty Million United State Dollars (USD$40,000,000.00) and you will be paid 17% for your management services. As soon as I receive your acceptance, I will send you the necessary details and my personal identification documents. 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Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 03:53:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is to notify you that after we met today with The President, Finance Minister, The Senators, House of Representatives and The Central Bank Deputy Governors and we came to a conclusion that we have to pay you the sum of $10.5M. The payment will be via Diplomatic courier service, therefore send your Name Address and Tel. No. Your immediate respond is urgently needed. Contact Person: Prof.Charles C.Soludo, Email:c.b.nigeria06@live.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 11:06:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F92F3BE85; Sat, 23 May 2009 11:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: Dickie Landry Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:06:20 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c9db96$80fe5a20$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C9DBA7.44872A20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AcnbGK2JB4hij8kHRlqhq6s2QzFyiQAfVRrQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.168; VDF: 7.1.4.6) Resent-Message-ID: <1Zr7yB.A.7pE.zi9FKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 11:06:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C9DBA7.44872A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the recommendation! I have a Dickie Landry Solo LP from 1978 called Fifteen Saxophones which is very nice as well, and contains live looping ... this should definitely be rereleased on CD. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C9DBA7.44872A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks for the recommendation! =  I=20 have a Dickie Landry Solo LP from 1978 called Fifteen Saxophones = which is=20 very nice as well, and contains live looping ... this should = definitely be=20 rereleased on CD.
 
-Michael
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C9DBA7.44872A20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 13:38:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD99F3BE80; Sat, 23 May 2009 13:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 203668330/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.226.48/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.226.48 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8BABmZF0pPTuIw/2dsb2JhbAAI0iaCN4FUBYhQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,237,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="203668330" Message-ID: <4A17FF4C.5080002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:51:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Erdem's new CD in WIRE References: <002d01c9dadf$25d2bd60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <000f01c9dae3$e3dfdbe0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> In-Reply-To: <000f01c9dae3$e3dfdbe0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1tyyQD.A.JbB.zx_FKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:38:59 +0000 (UTC) I'll scan for you. Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > wow guys! which issue is that on? june? damn, i will not be able to buy > the copy until mid june :( > > will very much appreciate if you could write me some parts of the review. > > it is so weird, i could not get a review for my "altered realities" > album even though my label sent 4 copies, and now i have 2 very good > reviews on may and june issues. such is life i guess. strange is the way of the Wire :-) > > this was a nice birthday present for me :) hahaha :) > > best to all. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Michael Peters > *To:* Loopers Delight > *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 4:13 PM > *Subject:* Erdem's new CD in WIRE > > congrats to the very positive review in WIRE, Erdem, for your > Wounded Breath > CD > > -Michael From lione.prez00@gmail.com Sat May 23 13:59:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 818 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 23 May 2009 13:59:47 UTC Received: from mail-bw0-f169.google.com (mail-bw0-f169.google.com [209.85.218.169]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129753BE75 for ; Sat, 23 May 2009 13:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz17 with SMTP id 17so307270bwz.6 for ; Sat, 23 May 2009 06:59:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:content-type; bh=hvzozyjWA7MpcfJtaT6NbxD6PxVGFw79JwCipQJThzQ=; b=aC13Y5aS5HU/SYPX5doknttFVtoGvO+ICj2AenmiOgWMKoYkhW3TGNpK4UoTfpem+w wsqeU4VIa8oqPMwldQeovvRG5uk2SfX0U1pLrNdIT7ohB0m/gF2GBF86mqN79YNEs0jL 6qA0KPJGd/cHd8oT+asm8FFS+CnlDIF6PbzZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:content-type; b=HJ4Kx6j50BnXzxZenb8U63q5ADWKJt6V3TPkhNzE6Uzv5OfDP/hAA28gcaRYMFBr9n 7wut2lZzeFJ6KkR4f0eKEgmSCsLeDCS4XkJMfergURXEnBoxqk2nYIsorzZILt3b9Y6m Ati8Esp+4j+U5riRidom78/8YRlKiKexDQHtU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.180.18 with SMTP id f18mt494065hbg.83.1243086355476; Sat, 23 May 2009 06:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: lioneprez01@hotmail.fr Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:45:55 +0000 Message-ID: <557cb72d0905230645s179cda5aw2bc52c536a59870c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: From Madam Lione Prez From: Lione Prez Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f5b10c837d10046a94c928 To: undisclosed-recipients:; --001485f5b10c837d10046a94c928 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From Madam Lione Prez Dear Beloved I am Madam Lione Prez-a citizen of philippine,widow, and legitimate heir to the late former Minister of finance who was assassinated for been working with the ex-president Joseph .E in philippine. I inherited a total sum of 15 million dollars from my late husband, The presure from my decease husband's family for this money has compelled me to leave Manila and have the money which is concealed in a metallic trunk box is deposited with a security and finance company Burkina Faso under a secret arrangement as a family treasure.This means that the security company does not know the content of this box that was shipped from the Philippine to Burkina Faso under a diplomatic coverage. My purpose of asking for your assistance boil down to the fact that I don't want my late husband's family to be aware or name involve, and the deposit statement of the box authorized the company to make this box avaliable for shipment on request only to my foreignbussiness representative, though unname. 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I awaits your urgent response Best wishes Madam Lione Prez. --001485f5b10c837d10046a94c928 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From Madam Lione Prez
Dear Beloved

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I inherited a t= otal sum of 15 million dollars from my late husband, The presure from my de= cease husband's family for this money has compelled me to leave Manila = and have the money which is concealed in a metallic trunk box is deposited = with a security and finance company Burkina Faso under a secret arrangement= as a family treasure.This means that the security company does not know th= e content of this box that was shipped from the Philippine to Burkina Faso = under a diplomatic coverage.
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--001485f5b10c837d10046a94c928-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 14:10:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 915013BE85; Sat, 23 May 2009 14:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1803C8.8050101@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:10:16 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: new album References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Bob, finally got the chance to check this out on CDbaby. Really enjoying it - the electronica came as a bit of shock, but it totally works, with really interesting sounds going on. And I'm a sucker for your thumb piano stuff. Was the first track create with sampled mbira? kudos - Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > Greetings Looperistas > > I just released a new album on CD Baby: > > Reagent - http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 > > Synth, guitar, thumb piano improvisations in various aggregations. > > Lots of loops used simply as ostinato and drum machines used as drones. > > > > > BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 14:30:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF26A3BE84; Sat, 23 May 2009 14:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=0l84fFtiFmh9Ksri4JOVeajXjuuj34y/ieOr+LTDv8o=; b=BA/3lyu1wMirio/QzE0OxlTawiZ7kNwTNh6hdHk87kMc4AViDdqcjIGBYFxlOrLjKq vN6zwZ0WGnieMrU0jPnQWduW5Tg27z+ZOqiFW9Ak/f11O84R6RZ6dYPqa+i3kfo0LNxx XPQ4LKp5umWCvbIDWDIPFVdv0usaRywu5MPBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=c6XMChuyeYXqpd+dSmhLY/WeXt6W35G1N46+XOqKjeXxumKxpsCbL1a0x4I3F9oMFj ywBgfKrT1w8+r02HBc+8XV/NLjKFtMP/6WF6jsuRoW5qKhK8fKQrryQd1e7IQk/S/ddO wok8gyly5qGAGXkKCeKXpsXcR7qmA7eFcHLFU= Message-Id: <37A3BE6E-703B-4004-A378-A8B562E785F0@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A1803C8.8050101@mhorse.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-641330933 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: new album Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 07:30:19 -0700 References: <4A1803C8.8050101@mhorse.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <7VT9O.A.sBH.RiAGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:30:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-641330933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Daryl On May 23, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Was the first track create with sampled mbira? Ha! Good ears! Yes indeed, that is GM MIDI Thumb Piano played using an EWI controller. Thanks for listening. regards BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 --Apple-Mail-1-641330933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi = Daryl


On May 23, 2009, at = 7:10 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote:

Was the first track create with = sampled mbira?

Ha! Good = ears!
Yes indeed, that is GM MIDI Thumb Piano played using an = EWI controller.

Thanks for = listening.

regards

BobC<= /div>


= --Apple-Mail-1-641330933-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 14:34:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 704163BE7F; Sat, 23 May 2009 14:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A180983.5060708@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:34:43 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: new album References: <4A1803C8.8050101@mhorse.com> <37A3BE6E-703B-4004-A378-A8B562E785F0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <37A3BE6E-703B-4004-A378-A8B562E785F0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Cool - love the koto-like vibrato on certain notes. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Was the first track create with sampled mbira? > > Ha! Good ears! > Yes indeed, that is GM MIDI Thumb Piano played using an EWI controller. > > Thanks for listening. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 17:55:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CB433BE85; Sat, 23 May 2009 17:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090523175546951.E856A20000A0@mwinf1921.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: dobro looping Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:55:41 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:55:49 +0000 (UTC) A sweet little pop tune on Dobro. The looping won't be that interesting to you wizards, but have you ever seen a left-handed Dobro player? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1JvWaKizG8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ereso%2Dnation%2Eorg%2Fnode%3Fpage%3D3&feature=player_embedded From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 19:04:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39AEC3BE80; Sat, 23 May 2009 19:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.121.155] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: , , Subject: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:04:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9DBA6.FF096670" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2009 19:04:31.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D7FD820:01C9DBD9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:04:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9DBA6.FF096670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Playing now.... FreeWave http://radioboise.org/ (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard = Time - MST) Click "LISTEN HERE" If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at = http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ "FreeWave features music within the free improvisation, = electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the = complex and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the = extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, FreeWave is all this and more, into = the obscure and beyond with the new millennium's creative = electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push your listening = boundaries into new and challenging territories of creative music. Not = for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWave = will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably." Play List Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in the Machine, and Martin Klapper Song: Magnitude Album: New Excursions (recorded live at the Copenhagen International = Experimental Festival) Artist(s): Muhal Richard Abrams, George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell Song: Soundhear Album: Streaming Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, Phil Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser Song: Ink Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood Artist(s): John Coltrane Song: Mars Album: Interstellar Space Artist(s): Dempa (Pianist Aki Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander = Kolkowski (England) and drummer Tony Buck (Australia)=20 Song: Where Europe Begins.... Album: Nine Fragments Artist(s): Derek Bailey and Agusti Fernandez Song: Casa Leopoldo Album: Barcelona Artist(s): Cecil Taylor Song: Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure) Album: Unit Structures Artist(s): Emily Hay and Motoko Honda Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday Album: n/a=20 Cheers, Kris Kris Hartung www.krispenhartung.com http://b-cimf.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festiva= l/37918746335 http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival info@krispenhartung.com 1-208-724-5603 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9DBA6.FF096670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Playing now....
 
FreeWave
http://radioboise.org/  = (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard Time - MST)
Click "LISTEN HERE"
 
If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at http://radio-boise-fre= ewave.blogspot.com/
 
"FreeWave features music within the free = improvisation,=20 electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the = complex and=20 frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the extraterrestrial sounds = of Sun=20 Ra, FreeWave is all this and more, into the obscure and = beyond=20 with the new millennium=92s creative electro-acoustic music scene. = FreeWave will=20 push your listening boundaries into new and challenging territories of = creative=20 music. Not for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, = FreeWave will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably."
 
Play List

Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in = the=20 Machine, and Martin Klapper
Song: Magnitude
Album: New Excursions (recorded live at the = Copenhagen=20 International Experimental Festival)

Artist(s): Muhal Richard = Abrams,=20 George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell
Song: Soundhear
Album: Streaming

Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, = Phil Minton,=20 Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser
Song: Ink
Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood

Artist(s): = John=20 Coltrane
Song: Mars
Album: Interstellar Space

Artist(s): Dempa = (Pianist Aki=20 Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander Kolkowski (England) and drummer = Tony Buck=20 (Australia)
Song: Where Europe Begins....
Album: Nine Fragments

Artist(s): Derek Bailey = and=20 Agusti Fernandez
Song: Casa Leopoldo
Album: Barcelona

Artist(s): Cecil = Taylor
Song:=20 Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure)
Album: Unit Structures

Artist(s): Emily Hay = and Motoko=20 Honda
Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday
Album: = n/a=20
 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
Kris Hartung
www.krispenhartung.com
http://b-cimf.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-I= mprovised-Music-Festival/37918746335
http://www= .myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival
info@krispenhartung.com
1-= 208-724-5603
------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C9DBA6.FF096670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 19:20:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3BBC3BE82; Sat, 23 May 2009 19:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009a01c9dbdb$8b8a30a0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60905200641m31cbbdd2q5f1bbd4e6a1c21f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual Gig Thanks, Apolgies and Another attempt Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:20:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <2uklHC.A.W3.5xEGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Hello dear loopers, First I would like to say THANKS to those who took the time to look in on my Ustream broadcast last Sunday and SORRY to have wasted your time. It turned out to be a non-event due to "technical difficulties". I can only blame myself for not having a proper trial run. Anyway, I was overwhelmed by the kind words of support and encouragement I recieved from so many people and have decided to give it another try tomorrow (Sunday the 24th). I've had a trial run this afternoon and it worked perfectly, so I think I've got the problems ironed out. Just in case I'm being a bit more cautious this time and only planning on doing 30 minutes and not publicising it quite so widely. In case anyone is still interested, here are the details - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain Live improvised cello looping Sunday 24th May 2009 5:30pm UK time 6:30pm Europe 12:30pm Eastern North America 9:30am Western North America It would be great if any of you would like to stop by for a listen. Best wishes to you all Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 19:44:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18CE43BE84; Sat, 23 May 2009 19:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 200445203/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.169.20/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.169.20 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiUCAKPuF0pPRqkU/2dsb2JhbAAIv3iRWYQLBYhS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,237,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="200445203" Message-ID: <4A1854E5.5090300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:56:21 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sonuus G2M Yamaha G50 (Axon) Comparison References: <4A151F54.5080100@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A151F54.5080100@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:44:10 +0000 (UTC) A second opinion. I had a visit from LDer Stephen Scott yesterday, and he auditioned both devices. Stephen pointed out that the G2M reproduced his subtle vibrato, while the G50 did not. Later however, this turned out to be just the way the G50 was set up. It seemed to me that his playing flowed better with the G2M. Otherwise Stephen was able to confirm my observations, which is handy, as he uses a more regular guitar technique (with pick) compared to my own rather idiosyncratic approach. One difference I didn't mention is that the g50 has endless parameters to adjust...could be a plus or a minus. andy butler andy butler wrote: > Sonuus G2M Yamaha G50 (Axon) Comparison. > > The G50 is a licensed version of the Axon technology, but thoughtfully > includes > a mono input. (Tracking is better on hex p/u). I'm using the mono input > for this > comparison. > > 1) Tracking speed. The G50 is faster, it just feels more real. > > 2) Tracking accuracy. The G2M seems to have the advantage, but then when > I concentrated on my "ultra clean " playing style I preferred the G50 > especially > as the playing speed increased. > Matt Stevens (G2M) modestly claims that the spurious low notes are him > hitting > open strings > http://www.mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com > but his demo shows the sort of results that I've been getting. > > > 3) Warbling on Sustained notes. G2M wins hands down here, it's not > 100% perfect, but any warbles are very slight deviations. The G50 > jumps to new notes on occassion, although I always > found it was predictable enough to avoid. (by learning which notes > on a particular guitar do the warbling, and keeping them short). > > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 19:48:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 336823BE88; Sat, 23 May 2009 19:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A18530F.60805@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:48:31 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Awesome, listening now to 'Mars'! sweeet sounds...thanks Kris. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Playing now.... > *FreeWave* > http://radioboise.org/ (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard > Time - MST) > Click "LISTEN HERE" > If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at > http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ > *"FreeWave* features music within the free improvisation, > electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the > complex and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the > extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, *FreeWave* is all this and more, > into the obscure and beyond with the new millennium’s creative > electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push your listening > boundaries into new and challenging territories of creative music. Not > for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWave > will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 19:57:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7C2F3BE87; Sat, 23 May 2009 19:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2DzRlYLJBCy4numYlQJugMpk4AL7rtFhglEnaNTN7XxCZHfpyUysw6JiZq5D/Scl27ZCLkAU1feInNmnGZrLo63DKBGQn6GLayLtWXgNxbLiFtsUTkFMGQqMRFmuZb7sHB5hfgRbXKMNfjP6nDxESU2F3oL50ILnxhPD9s1/slY= ; X-YMail-OSG: b_bKvxwVM1lJeq1MDSCbMyD8T3Ih61nQor04dZd8pOMMj_LQGXh1bOoqfNi8Bs6_P8Kx9Biqkibi1uxvRNeYPaGfuRQwWp3f1eKpVpk1X6hMdS76mpfVli47Nw3xuHMGML9d_SrpuVQsWYvrheyd2zquL2iSBVLR1AAjKGONoLt7suhRDE1._V.NvZxyCSBJ6V70N9tK6OMcuvyqFATtV.Jqz3LxiCaIzqh1hy3xm4CFcFo4gCuZiQKwf3BZCyi2wLKVvmnDF5tkbceFXoRe9dbAQyF8WG7b39TNzErDqRs9UU4oNIgooHRgt7IPx3YlVgLDjOhXHyoSZnDWh9nibfgcNsUW6u8hgHQBM1Px6Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: OT: Tour Report Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:57:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C9DBE9.1F32DDE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <7CmRO.A.8FG.4UFGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:57:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C9DBE9.1F32DDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've just posted my tour report for my Japan tour 2009. It may be of = some interest to you. http://www.rickygraham.net/ Thanks, Ricky ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C9DBE9.1F32DDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I've just posted my tour report for my = Japan tour=20 2009. It may be of some interest to you.
 
http://www.rickygraham.net/
 
Thanks,
 
Ricky
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C9DBE9.1F32DDE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 20:01:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19F8C3BE93; Sat, 23 May 2009 20:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.121.155] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <4A18530F.60805@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:01:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2009 20:01:32.0792 (UTC) FILETIME=[44F6CF80:01C9DBE1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:01:34 +0000 (UTC) The tune playing now is one of my favorites, by the trio Dempa. Just amazing. On the next show I'll be featuring a tune from Nels Cline. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Awesome, listening now to 'Mars'! sweeet sounds...thanks Kris. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > >> Playing now.... >> *FreeWave* >> http://radioboise.org/ (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard >> Time - MST) >> Click "LISTEN HERE" >> If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at >> http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ >> *"FreeWave* features music within the free improvisation, >> electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the >> complex and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the >> extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, *FreeWave* is all this and more, into >> the obscure and beyond with the new millennium’s creative >> electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push your listening >> boundaries into new and challenging territories of creative music. Not >> for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWave >> will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 20:29:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E28C33BE79; Sat, 23 May 2009 20:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A185C88.8090309@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:28:56 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Tour Report, Too References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Ricky's diary reminded me to post a link to my own tour diary, still but one day young (sweet lil' shaver...) but will be chock-full of blatherings by the end of July. My next gig is tonight, though the first looping show isn't until Tuesday, when I have two in San Diego in one night (both good bills, wish I coulda spread them out). http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/summer09.htm Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 20:37:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 508D93BE86; Sat, 23 May 2009 20:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A185E9F.2020808@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:37:51 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tour Report References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0-ePt.A.mOC.l6FGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Great report, Ricky! Nice to have all the pix and full descriptions of the venues. Looking forward to checking out the sounds. Congrats on a successful tour. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hi, > > I've just posted my tour report for my Japan tour 2009. It may be of > some interest to you. > > http://www.rickygraham.net/ > > Thanks, > > Ricky > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2130 - Release Date: 05/23/09 07:00:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 20:57:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B4EB3BE87; Sat, 23 May 2009 20:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=nXeLOtr2LlgMTLN7eubG/zd+ULNCYtPhuTQQiKrLmcUjxSfD/IWCLjmyVxHee4Ps7ZaUOpkkMuKUS4WbtDiMkarZrFF4QGRQ9xg0eeOzokrgN+wiUhAiBaLH1qGEeijafrF+hwmiOdK0llj0NHwLVsp7Z4bVoztbarBLPZkgTZQ= ; X-YMail-OSG: 6TVOm.gVM1kQwK69fJHIYuRIlAplAqKUSPXiKxxVFj.O_cdCq7xx2IJc8_HosdR2.En1m8EZ7cgmxp7F6jQQSQMhLJ8SEGEk6Lz_Up9VlrJPWa_HogkTJFpeg7Gf8w25ByrcZ.iKWqtmTVChDNz8VUiZrml640F1m9TMsm1DHxs6j1YA3e9ymUwg1SziHT2EjGPs6sktfPPTF54KjAnYfUF_3u2H0Rkuc4sTcmvGz.DjNiOmcH1TV2P3dreCJE9f3t0AemcPE_B9e4Ast5Do_byJXA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <1B262B613C3E4997905857F5CF4A95FD@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <4A185E9F.2020808@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: OT: Tour Report Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:57:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Thank you, Daryl. I appreciate the kind words. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: Re: OT: Tour Report > Great report, Ricky! Nice to have all the pix and full descriptions of > the venues. Looking forward to checking out the sounds. Congrats on a > successful tour. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > >> Hi, >> >> I've just posted my tour report for my Japan tour 2009. It may be of >> some interest to you. >> >> http://www.rickygraham.net/ >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ricky >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2130 - Release Date: >> 05/23/09 07:00:00 >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2130 - Release Date: 05/23/09 07:00:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 21:10:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 461083BE7C; Sat, 23 May 2009 21:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=JHZVCZY59BTalPzjmaQRZNnCkwS61QJmHjXfa1Sz7genp/jf2Y9/epE1k/luhvTlsurABgTlZyJTIgzVtFoN8ejSQJesUKCTgqvHXe9GMpPWKooEWTGpBvIFc/CMo8rpH3aXIySIRz2aOgrQyj0J8+Ih0X2Lg1DQNozXgbmLin8= ; X-YMail-OSG: .TtAOxIVM1mpZ5o1pr0Se.9asgn_j1JJaQcs1z6Q3OItlfVMKZKg7.6C0TQIJB4RT5VDqAH.CkQoHbb8YHa8BtlxDBXx5fcFs8bxM0Pp7CRyWgUUOHNZvX_InDRc6EHRiL715bdO5ylUweGVajK8zGiMeCoLU9VG5zT1RdOBpeB1y9RZ8f471TRK.6xOgRTcuCCiiXWov4F5MpJouahy_9k2Kg4i2.r_X9LWDMOi5rfIysTQIIUD2sbBnUOXhtEDkmkPySTMxgyzSPilZIItsJ1ptw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <120ECBE5A6D9472F9323EAED6B9E68ED@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <4A185C88.8090309@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 22:10:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:10:53 +0000 (UTC) "People are generally used to instrumental guitar as background music" Turn it up really loud... :) Then they can become background people. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: OT: Tour Report, Too > Ricky's diary reminded me to post a link to my own tour diary, still but > one day young (sweet lil' shaver...) but will be chock-full of > blatherings by the end of July. My next gig is tonight, though the first > looping show isn't until Tuesday, when I have two in San Diego in one > night (both good bills, wish I coulda spread them out). > > http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/summer09.htm > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2130 - Release Date: 05/23/09 07:00:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 21:11:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43E6F3BE8D; Sat, 23 May 2009 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.121.155] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: , References: Subject: Re: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:10:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0162_01C9DBB8.ACBE2E20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2009 21:11:00.0512 (UTC) FILETIME=[F91E6A00:01C9DBEA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0162_01C9DBB8.ACBE2E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, The show is up on the Blog and you can listen to it any time! http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ Kris Playing now.... FreeWave http://radioboise.org/ (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard = Time - MST) Click "LISTEN HERE" If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at = http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ "FreeWave features music within the free improvisation, = electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the = complex and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the = extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, FreeWave is all this and more, into = the obscure and beyond with the new millennium's creative = electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push your listening = boundaries into new and challenging territories of creative music. Not = for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWave = will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably." Play List Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in the Machine, and Martin Klapper Song: Magnitude Album: New Excursions (recorded live at the Copenhagen International = Experimental Festival) Artist(s): Muhal Richard Abrams, George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell Song: Soundhear Album: Streaming Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, Phil Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser Song: Ink Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood Artist(s): John Coltrane Song: Mars Album: Interstellar Space Artist(s): Dempa (Pianist Aki Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander = Kolkowski (England) and drummer Tony Buck (Australia)=20 Song: Where Europe Begins.... Album: Nine Fragments Artist(s): Derek Bailey and Agusti Fernandez Song: Casa Leopoldo Album: Barcelona Artist(s): Cecil Taylor Song: Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure) Album: Unit Structures Artist(s): Emily Hay and Motoko Honda Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday Album: n/a=20 Cheers, Kris Kris Hartung www.krispenhartung.com http://b-cimf.com = http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festiva= l/37918746335 http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival info@krispenhartung.com 1-208-724-5603 ------=_NextPart_000_0162_01C9DBB8.ACBE2E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
The show is up on the Blog and you can = listen to it=20 any time!
 
http://radio-boise-fre= ewave.blogspot.com/
 
Kris
 
 

Playing now....
 
FreeWave
http://radioboise.org/ =20 (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard Time - MST)
Click "LISTEN HERE"
 
If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at http://radio-boise-fre= ewave.blogspot.com/
 
"FreeWave features music within the free = improvisation,=20 electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the = complex=20 and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the extraterrestrial = sounds of=20 Sun Ra, FreeWave is all this and more, into the = obscure and=20 beyond with the new millennium=92s creative electro-acoustic music = scene.=20 FreeWave will push your listening boundaries into new and challenging=20 territories of creative music. Not for the faint of heart or remotely=20 formulaic and predictable, FreeWave will alter your musical = perspectives=20 irrevocably."
 
Play List

Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost = in the=20 Machine, and Martin Klapper
Song: Magnitude
Album: New Excursions (recorded live at the = Copenhagen=20 International Experimental Festival)

Artist(s): Muhal Richard = Abrams,=20 George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell
Song: Soundhear
Album: Streaming

Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, = Phil=20 Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser
Song: Ink
Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood

Artist(s): = John=20 Coltrane
Song: Mars
Album: Interstellar Space

Artist(s): Dempa = (Pianist=20 Aki Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander Kolkowski (England) and = drummer Tony=20 Buck (Australia)
Song: Where Europe Begins....
Album: Nine Fragments

Artist(s): Derek = Bailey and=20 Agusti Fernandez
Song: Casa Leopoldo
Album: Barcelona

Artist(s): Cecil = Taylor
Song:=20 Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure)
Album: Unit Structures

Artist(s): Emily Hay = and=20 Motoko Honda
Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival -=20 Friday
Album: n/a
 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
Kris Hartung
www.krispenhartung.com
http://b-cimf.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-I= mprovised-Music-Festival/37918746335
http://www= .myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival
info@krispenhartung.com
1-= 208-724-5603
------=_NextPart_000_0162_01C9DBB8.ACBE2E20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 21:20:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59F403BE9E; Sat, 23 May 2009 21:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xriNHXQfItwOKVVSnd0lPPiCX2iCBU/4rPg2MaoWd7Q=; b=uTc98Yv6qC8QTaYOJqIq4nBngqoC9kx+Meoiq4eXqV5Tv8C5kb9feoI2buzL+vlBiW GoWP4BTWMPeqHsyTKQyk1XRnJ4ddBaeVJB3muYkPvJu5zGdc/lJNklEPTX02qwXCILOe TrMXXVOjkPM+1Ree4tUa6G6Q5OKpv+oUpW6WM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gXdmZr/EezaHwaDQXJPEyPvFxqDSIeKhjnicJN9ooGn4ILco4IA9v7Vz6ix5qEr75O QAdBD61yzU/6kfK86BMK66eV61Sz7ZXN2wiFnDSFuNtL+FLQZ/TeIL9iMQ+jpMNWHn66 ZsFEahM8AyyrXmxSOMMWhj7HW6hmeACnwaiaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <120ECBE5A6D9472F9323EAED6B9E68ED@a> References: <4A185C88.8090309@mhorse.com> <120ECBE5A6D9472F9323EAED6B9E68ED@a> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 23:13:58 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905231413l3a4890d9p54c6b0c39bfad032@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:20:47 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > "People are generally used to instrumental guitar as background music" > > Turn it up really loud... :) Then they can become background people. Today's best post! Totally made my day. Going to bed now - 'nite folks! per :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 21:34:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C72A3BE89; Sat, 23 May 2009 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VCYNyWj4Vqdl6eYkra3hmHtykuXMjxFHPNlk+V4k9aTaK8jOEbvNiqYUpTHPrlCv; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <11460579.1243114450798.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:34:10 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48d2d7428fec82a80bbf75d8db772325fd92764449e275203c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: <-azGkD.A.7iE.TvGGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) hear hear! as a lot of people know on this list-i lov to play loud guitar-many reasons why&wherefore but one good one is it masks the talkers during performance. @ the 1st LoopStock in San Luis Obispo i was up first and when i stopped playing there was a lot of chatter that i'm glad i couldnt hear as it probably would have messed me up(more) as my buddies in the band SUNNO))) preach: "maximum volume yields maximun results" YMMM staninsanfran > >"People are generally used to instrumental guitar as background music" >Turn it up really loud... :) Then they can become background people. >Ricky >> Ricky's diary reminded me to post a link to my own tour diary, still but >> one day young (sweet lil' shaver...) but will be chock-full of >> blatherings by the end of July. My next gig is tonight, though the first >> looping show isn't until Tuesday, when I have two in San Diego in one >> night (both good bills, wish I coulda spread them out). >> http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/summer09.htm >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 21:50:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A2653BE94; Sat, 23 May 2009 21:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=e92LJNz9C+MRn4QtQj3rpS8IWw+NRk0Y3CEUWsVn3rw=; b=jt1KxsNY2o79bcwCZkfDQCC0c2MCycqTUgN2tdSq3F6L2mq2baxuzZ4ebTZxwYT4TG CesyG7+aq1p7nD9ppj6BuHbnTAZN3xlV70XGs7u3uy6d4Og9W4QMnHmrNBpZbFaXTFVF KmCrAH5qF5NUZ308Blt0B8ie4T306ag/yy+GM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PSFayy1rEyz6rksyfGYP0D+zgpuKu2k/k10rYiziudf2QT+DpsvYb5ZCy2f40UaOUh F+ObGwWmy8k1Dhq5qsBvFXuVUn8S+58MT7RInhlyUu0uymfSTax7e7/mRlEWQfYrykXM XfcJb1AYci9g7Ol7HVNWHtsf9DmxzJP7bMSp8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:50:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: help! need quick simple way to make laptop into looping/sampling machine From: david molina To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ce1be18bee1046a9b5fd1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:50:55 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ce1be18bee1046a9b5fd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi everybody. i have always been a gear head and have always been anti computer, but am caught in an emergency dilema. I'm about to head out on a music tour of South America in about a week and all my looping gear just died on me. I have a Mac Book Pro Laptop. I tried to install Mobius, and it didn't work. I dont' know much about computers so maybe i'm doing something wrong. A friend gave me a copy of Logic which has Main Stage. I also heard about Super Looper. I am used to live looping and extreme sound manipulation of what i sample live on the spot. what do you suggest? is there a way i can set up my mixer to go straight into my internal input jack and work with any of the mentioned programs? I will be running a guitar, mike, and Line 6 POD XT thru the mixer. thanks david --0015175ce1be18bee1046a9b5fd1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi everybody.

i have always been a gear head and have al= ways been anti computer, but am caught in an emergency dilema. =A0=A0I'= m about to head out on a music tour of South America in about a week and al= l my looping gear just died on me.

I have a Mac Book Pro Laptop. =A0I tried to install Mob= ius, and it didn't work. =A0I dont' know much about computers so ma= ybe i'm doing something wrong.=A0A friend gave me a copy of Logic which= has Main Stage. =A0I also heard about Super Looper. =A0 I am used to live = looping and extreme sound manipulation of what i sample live on the spot. = =A0what do you suggest?

is there a way i can set up my mixer to go straight int= o my internal input jack and work with any of the mentioned programs?
=

I will be running a guitar, mike, and Line 6 POD XT thr= u the mixer.

thanks

david
--0015175ce1be18bee1046a9b5fd1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 21:53:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F40733BE8E; Sat, 23 May 2009 21:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 828 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 23 May 2009 21:53:22 UTC Message-Id: <9551E3FD-A470-408D-8070-9FDF4AFF84C8@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: billboard magazine Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:39:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 341163a3-47e2-11de-8a51-002264978518 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdefTcfFhpo UEhAUlBQHgZhCx8D SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh5 PDIAc254ZWBpa2Yc HkVcck1XdAJLeBwU aU17UyYPfGQGMi99 TwZuZnVpZW8FdngE HVFQdAIES0cPGjQ7 TgoOVTAmEkQXRiM+ R2Fj X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.pelican.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:53:22 +0000 (UTC) I'm in Billboard magazine today which feels very surreal. http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/magazine/features/e3ib5e9d934e920f549151cb861b4cfbc1c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 21:58:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D82E3BEA4; Sat, 23 May 2009 21:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=U2yzSsXKj02adjPfBl0VofNuKYayMqjwgQK9aVOkc6k=; b=k+mOcVmPAYuPQtXP9Z1yll8yf1PJGYaC2JD4w+SQfYiAO++OlOJ0liIzQRPL85TmZ1 WSIE1dyn1TTWCaHGgj7AVUamrhNRMF4SwwrGqURdfMGAOzHkwEKx/qNH/PvOPnJvVB/y UqQCouVDoKFCComP9ct85cF4atlhcfbQrUo/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=aYZ/DGnK2HxZD5VLpP5Oahh4OXanu1qnx8pjXfyYIzyY8gQF/hT+3io4eo4l/U3GSu b12itfSfWa3WTov3OXBE6Zbf6oVWPtEblDrjAj2sfi5tCt0yN0OtGzIgB5PK8a50oUyi z3vqsKhTZFQph+jXOcJR4M4Up4Z87XS2WU52w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:58:21 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905231458u714d367en3ee0c6bd9ae45425@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual Gigspam Reminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c599a3c0a5ba046a9b79fb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:58:23 +0000 (UTC) --001636c599a3c0a5ba046a9b79fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well ustream is beginning to become virtual festival for many of us on LD which to me is pretty cool. Tomorrow May 24th as you saw earlier Mr Moyes and I both have sets on ustream with my series Sunday Morning at 11 , now in it's 3rd broadcast since inception in April, leading the day at 11am (EST). I'll be doing @40 set of fretted, fretless guitar and oud improvisations, some looped and some non-looped. My series link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 . Sunday Morning at 11 times are 11am EST (North America east coast) 8am PST (California) I apologize I realize this is getting up with the chickens out there, I'm considering changing my series time at some point but for now 11am works well for me. If you get up I'll buy you a virtual coffee somehow... Let's see UK 4pm, Continental Europe 5pm and 6pm I believe, Tokyo Midnight. To check times for areas I missed go to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. And Steve Moyes will be on as mentioned earlier at... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain Live improvised cello looping Sunday 24th May 2009 5:30pm UK time 6:30pm Europe 12:30pm Eastern North America 9:30am Western North America So please join us tomorrow should you have time and interest and I hope that some of you on the list will join Steve, Rainer, Mark, Matt and myself and do your own cast soon, it's a lot of fun and just really neat to get to reach out to places I for one may never get to travel to. Have a great weekend and see you at 11 tomorrow. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey... www.myspace.com/ctreuse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c599a3c0a5ba046a9b79fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well ustream is beginning to become virtual festival for many of us on LD w= hich to me is pretty cool.

Tomorrow May 24th as you saw earlier Mr M= oyes and I both have sets on ustream with my series Sunday Morning at 11=A0, now in= it's 3rd broadcast since inception in April, leading the day at 11am (= EST).=A0 I'll be doing @40 set of fretted, fretless guitar and oud impr= ovisations, some looped and some non-looped.


Sunday Morning at 11 times are 11am EST (Nort= h America east coast)
8am PST (California) I apologize I realize this is getting up with the= chickens out there, I'm considering changing my series time at some po= int but for now 11am works well for me. =A0If you get up I'll buy you a= virtual coffee somehow...
Let's see UK 4pm, Continental Europe 5pm and 6pm I believe, Tokyo = Midnight. =A0To check times for areas I missed go to=A0http://www.t= imeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html.

And Steve Moyes will be on as mentioned earlier at...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain=
Live improvised cello looping
Sunday 24th May 2009
5:30pm UK time
= 6:30pm Europe
12:30pm Eastern North America
9:30am Western North Amer= ica
So please join us tomorrow should you have time and interest= and I hope that some of you on the list will join Steve, Rainer, Mark, Mat= t and myself and do your own cast soon, it's a lot of fun and just real= ly neat to get to reach out to places I for one may never get to travel to.=

Have a great weekend and see you at 11 tomorrow.
<= div>
Jim
--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural jou= rney...
--001636c599a3c0a5ba046a9b79fb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 22:04:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B59A3BE99; Sat, 23 May 2009 22:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=N5v8266zgE9a2vwNNtMrtjm7EUt+oMoPzyMnBt471dGXezOJVJ1NBHVjJQzYWmvsxAMsA+HUigjZYS/etNr3kuocUaiCR3+Tvpa5Us+gMxL4vOmpr0adctjBiPN/CeDozpcqFzB7PjnoJCZsbJdFOyxEE7rNwOVV8/yCMWvAjxY= ; X-YMail-OSG: yKzAHLwVM1lRQ8TKnccvyI9QGgBn0FrFztk8UrhNnNiIVu6maZ0npGCqUrJnKY5Mhl_N9o3f.BFGUqQjwZWOvY35Tbh0bQXMrhehGCMHN3WJp4KjqEsf_J8n87mXIclnNsPiq1sDbAgp0e5zT8D9y_Km7sIqLeeIXecpDml3hERhs2P3dbEyY9BaQk4xmaO26iwL1Bx990k45GMc3MadDWB6Vn0xM1k8nSDx.8dK7ag6.nDSUSsaFoHRg.A9cHlmLDk_Ro5IDNhcTv0BtqjtEFxOEC1iBKlHFT6NrrEPMHdKBwP0rbfSXg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9551E3FD-A470-408D-8070-9FDF4AFF84C8@zoekeating.com> References: <9551E3FD-A470-408D-8070-9FDF4AFF84C8@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-668597902 Message-Id: <2FE388AA-2C4E-4A2E-8779-3EF2E7219CFF@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: billboard magazine Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 23:04:46 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 22:04:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-668597902 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Awsome - very interesting article, very pleased for you. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 23 May 2009, at 22:39, Zoe Keating wrote: > I'm in Billboard magazine today which feels very surreal. > > http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/magazine/features/ > e3ib5e9d934e920f549151cb861b4cfbc1c > --Apple-Mail-1-668597902 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Awsome - very interesting article, very pleased for you.

=
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 23 May 2009, = at 22:39, Zoe Keating wrote:

I'm in Billboard magazine today which feels very = surreal.


=

= --Apple-Mail-1-668597902-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 23 22:32:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 448D03BE82; Sat, 23 May 2009 22:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003d01c9dbf6$61d05210$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60905231458u714d367en3ee0c6bd9ae45425@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Gigspam Reminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 23:32:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 22:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Looking forward to your broadcast tomorrow Jim. The last one was wonderful. Thanks also for mentioning mine and for your encouragement to "get straight back on the horse" after last weeks problems. It's great the way weekends are becoming virtual loopfests. I really hope more Delightful Loopers join us soon. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 10:58 PM Subject: Virtual Gigspam Reminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream Well ustream is beginning to become virtual festival for many of us on LD which to me is pretty cool. 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Jerry Peterson" Subject: Proposal Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 02:32:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010D_01C2A9A6.5EFD1254" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01C2A9A6.5EFD1254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please find attched my proposal. Consider it and get back to me as soon as possible. Please note that his is confidential, Capt. 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Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C18F23BE82; Sun, 24 May 2009 03:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5BFB9811-46A9-486A-8B3F-BC9A8F244C4B@finleysound.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt McCabe Subject: Re: dobro looping Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:36:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 03:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Beautiful! Do you have any songs up for download somewhere? Matt --- King Never free music @ music.kingnever.com On May 23, 2009, at 10:55 AM, doc rossi wrote: > A sweet little pop tune on Dobro. The looping won't be that > interesting to you wizards, but have you ever seen a left-handed > Dobro player? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1JvWaKizG8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww% > 2Ereso%2Dnation%2Eorg%2Fnode%3Fpage%3D3&feature=player_embedded > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 05:52:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C49313BE80; Sun, 24 May 2009 05:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 22:52:17 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 05:52:18 +0000 (UTC) I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction that has been written in the last ten years. I used to read a lot and have loved Card, Varley, Pohl, Bear, Robinson, et. al. I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know who to go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at least 20 years ago. Thanks, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 05:59:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 449753BE7C; Sun, 24 May 2009 05:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Return-Receipt-To:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=4J2ZjuA+AeQSgDtuEATmP+yUGt027LBZwtl4zOsdkbE4VtDb+wHBKtTzmdLhZYPNKXkdN81XF56uMArwIELt2cloSjuakzXeSyye5cZhMa6DaqrSmkCCxZjOtjm2KhUpJon6a7Qa0bM1hDMJBN8MPdFymAJE1mmpv/XJg4b+M7Q= ; X-YMail-OSG: cEMHDVIVM1nbwTNWyteQ0.2xBFio_Ezp8dYM37k4RrRyD5xSmWGfM6h6hQEHxMq5tEykyhy1x_UrsZtuDa8.76oUSiOz5THjOBc3m5_o_RmTg7VmkGmx6WrZDPoSRPX.diCgWCoe4dL.bkKx7pmqVjldTrS0Bn8MbiRIyUR5wvwnaBNQU1GCk5aktUmJvpYLt5mZbzKX2byjPNv9N8hHq2SH6U8ak0mIyINtCnLeavgBOIwljO3XiW1mjvFTXoZrsWU.9X2bdF3zLjcyQFvVfpWDgl_BYklNF.shMFWbelIM40mvqZU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:242491201 Message-ID:<242491201-1243144743-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1589553828-@bxe1133.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction writtenin the last 10 years? From: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 05:58:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 05:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (Off Topic) Congrats Rick on your trip and be safe, wished I could have made it. -K ------Original Message------ From: Rick Walker To: Loopers Delight ReplyTo: Loopers Delight Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction writtenin the last 10 years? Sent: May 24, 2009 1:52 AM I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction that has been written in the last ten years. I used to read a lot and have loved Card, Varley, Pohl, Bear, Robinson, et. al. I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know who to go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at least 20 years ago. Thanks, Rick Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 07:14:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C967E3BE80; Sun, 24 May 2009 07:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1379 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 24 May 2009 07:14:14 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=pQu3rTu6kGwClsVXK2qJPpp27VtmkOU7uISggVcDwT/NZ7g/3rL0UewA5GTy204h; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <8C70CE9C-57E2-4CDD-A7FA-89694EE1B9A5@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 23:51:12 -0700 References: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79778ad194a6ea72fd63d44b9929ffcbcd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.189.153.29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:14:14 +0000 (UTC) If you've never read The Diamond Age, don't miss it (1995, but, hey, =20 it's a masterpiece=85) http://tinyurl.com/o7ou96 dpc On May 23, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 07:35:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 195083BE7F; Sun, 24 May 2009 07:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 860 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 24 May 2009 07:35:01 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-701947174 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 00:20:35 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 6267bd0f-4833-11de-8a51-002264978518 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdZfTcfFhpo UEhAUlJaHgdoCx8I SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh5 PUkvR2lwZW5kYWIf HkhdfwoadgFMeU0R agZiUHsOYngGZy41 Wl86Yml0ZW0FcnoJ E15dcAtCV3wGTHYS XR0PIjwxEB9Nayg5 MgBuEFcQHUE7NUQp PB0mQ11QCB8VFUVZ GQljGiJUb3gEXzAs E0cSdlQTGSFcXyoY SjA4OhJSAzlfXDZR AA8NQhcDQw5BXSJU UjEYeyYqEUM1Jkli FzkEMApZ X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.pelican.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:35:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-701947174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable very cool... dig your wave logo... On May 23, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Playing now.... > > FreeWave > http://radioboise.org/ (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain =20 > Standard Time - MST) > Click "LISTEN HERE" > > If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at = http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ > > "FreeWave features music within the free improvisation, electro-=20 > acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. =46rom the complex =20= > and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the extraterrestrial =20= > sounds of Sun Ra, FreeWave is all this and more, into the obscure =20 > and beyond with the new millennium=92s creative electro-acoustic music = =20 > scene. FreeWave will push your listening boundaries into new and =20 > challenging territories of creative music. Not for the faint of =20 > heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWave will alter =20 > your musical perspectives irrevocably." > > Play List > > Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in the Machine, and Martin Klapper > Song: Magnitude > Album: New Excursions (recorded live at the Copenhagen International =20= > Experimental Festival) > > Artist(s): Muhal Richard Abrams, George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell > Song: Soundhear > Album: Streaming > > Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, Phil Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser > Song: Ink > Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood > > Artist(s): John Coltrane > Song: Mars > Album: Interstellar Space > > Artist(s): Dempa (Pianist Aki Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander =20 > Kolkowski (England) and drummer Tony Buck (Australia) > Song: Where Europe Begins.... > Album: Nine Fragments > > Artist(s): Derek Bailey and Agusti Fernandez > Song: Casa Leopoldo > Album: Barcelona > > Artist(s): Cecil Taylor > Song: Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure) > Album: Unit Structures > > Artist(s): Emily Hay and Motoko Honda > Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday > Album: n/a > > Cheers, > > Kris > > Kris Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com > http://b-cimf.com > = http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festival= /37918746335 > http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival > info@krispenhartung.com > 1-208-724-5603 --Apple-Mail-1-701947174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable very = cool...

dig your wave = logo...


On May 23, 2009, at 12:04 = PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Playing = now....
 
FreeWave
http://radioboise.org/  = (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard Time - = MST)
Click "LISTEN HERE"
 
If you = miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at http://radio-boise-free= wave.blogspot.com/
 
"FreeWave features music = within the free improvisation, electro-acoustic, experimental, and = creative music genres. =46rom the complex and frenzied sax expressions = of Evan Parker to the extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, FreeWave is all this and more, = into the obscure and beyond with the new millennium=92s creative = electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push your listening = boundaries into new and challenging territories of creative music. Not = for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWave = will alter your musical perspectives = irrevocably."
 
Play = List

Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in the Machine, and = Martin Klapper
Song: Magnitude
Album: New Excursions (recorded live at the = Copenhagen International Experimental Festival)

Artist(s): Muhal = Richard Abrams, George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell
Song: = Soundhear
Album: Streaming

Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, = Phil Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser
Song: Ink
Album: Verbatim, Flesh and = Blood

Artist(s): John Coltrane
Song: = Mars
Album: Interstellar Space

Artist(s): = Dempa (Pianist Aki Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander Kolkowski = (England) and drummer Tony Buck (Australia) 
Song: Where Europe = Begins....
Album: Nine Fragments

Artist(s): Derek = Bailey and Agusti Fernandez
Song: Casa Leopoldo
Album: Barcelona

Artist(s): Cecil = Taylor
Song: Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure)
Album: Unit Structures

Artist(s): Emily Hay = and Motoko Honda
Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - = Friday
Album: = n/a
 
Cheers,
 

= --Apple-Mail-1-701947174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 07:51:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E581D3BE86; Sun, 24 May 2009 07:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4012 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 24 May 2009 07:51:49 UTC X-ME-UUID: 20090524064455802.C3F41800009F@mwinf2f18.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5BFB9811-46A9-486A-8B3F-BC9A8F244C4B@finleysound.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: dobro looping Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 08:44:48 +0200 References: <5BFB9811-46A9-486A-8B3F-BC9A8F244C4B@finleysound.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:51:49 +0000 (UTC) I'd love to take credit for that, but it's not me - it's a Dobro player in Norway -- http://www.youtube.com/user/eastfoldpicker On May 24, 2009, at 5:36 AM, Matt McCabe wrote: > Beautiful! Do you have any songs up for download somewhere? > > Matt > > --- > King Never > free music @ music.kingnever.com > > > On May 23, 2009, at 10:55 AM, doc rossi wrote: > >> A sweet little pop tune on Dobro. The looping won't be that >> interesting to you wizards, but have you ever seen a left-handed >> Dobro player? >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1JvWaKizG8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ereso%2Dnation%2Eorg%2Fnode%3Fpage%3D3&feature=player_embedded >> > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 09:10:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F12743BE7F; Sun, 24 May 2009 09:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NLpo9AOtt/+OdGutzOZPFL6jw9LXxf7weX38P1EE9Eo=; b=ifnKJgKso+jXwi43sZ1NpZK/Q865E+zm4C9d4Pi+LnccXP3t7/YjP0uY4pWxUAnlPc 9eWZgmMblq7ATP2WDuaUpuUZ8NCPQoq1RPcjmZRa1wulN1ZERczU4kpzsuNeC0/teXZo Ie/hKSEDJxA6zcz1sPaDHXzFGDp6yOaelx8kM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JRggkhrEhpGWb7Ce7u0RLlJXAGAL4S4mNYKPdCf/PnkbmWMESp96kO3Io8Y/ZpVDGZ 4Wmnm/dIqBeteuglACOimKNCyx20TnUI6VhENtCRcIXIoGa4Ma0SuMXiYK36CHbutd82 TMvGv28S6BiyzvsiBYJM2Vp2xrpGs+FvvzXIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:10:53 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905240210p61e3d083r511a7f199c3ceab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: help! need quick simple way to make laptop into looping/sampling machine From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:10:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:50 PM, david molina wrote: > I have a Mac Book Pro Laptop. =C2=A0I tried to install Mobius, and it did= n't > work. =C2=A0I dont' know much about computers so maybe i'm doing somethin= g > wrong.=C2=A0A friend gave me a copy of Logic which has Main Stage. =C2=A0= I also heard > about Super Looper. =C2=A0 I am used to live looping and extreme sound > manipulation of what i sample live on the spot. =C2=A0what do you suggest= ? The same. Both SL and Mobius has been sighted working for other folks so if you just give it a second try there's a fair chance it will work. These two loopers differs a little in functionality so you better check out what they can do to see which one will serve your needs best. There are dedicated mailing lists for both where you can get help and they also offer written manuals online. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 09:37:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DB583BE7F; Sun, 24 May 2009 09:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vcXaetVtNh1haSDTJoJJP5KtKYbKQ/9813KLPUSDa+4=; b=Jxx22dMjot0zZLJ1eKVksJgzeR1XwmUQ3hGdAKLeekbFcbRpIHyZNWHnXb4P+W9Xao XKjS9xLbBfTDIud6nxs+fPQJvi+0vDOifrLLCToUPXY+bmuFWjrf2pXdwgzMiP0H3rDL N9PxOGYtiITINK1od14oCN2rZw4u5wJPOn2R0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UGLwNjgZf/2cmLoYUtd35oju1LWqADKEnuWk0xLb+nO0rvONERtJmlv+xgbyS+Nf95 poQT4nlxrZgqIBz+v3zJHZ0efOlb6QiyYtmx9qUEStVzWe9rq4yTB+lsK9s9KdkrCylC vlr3kVy3gnniM7PdDPI6+TEKHR3FrOcUm+BJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9551E3FD-A470-408D-8070-9FDF4AFF84C8@zoekeating.com> References: <9551E3FD-A470-408D-8070-9FDF4AFF84C8@zoekeating.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 05:37:45 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905240237p7bc5e194ub0e9da4763b0ede7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: billboard magazine From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Zoe congratulations that's great. On 5/23/09, Zoe Keating wrote: > I'm in Billboard magazine today which feels very surreal. > > http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/magazine/features/e3ib5e9d934e920f549151cb861b4cfbc1c > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 10:21:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2E513BE85; Sun, 24 May 2009 10:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 357 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 24 May 2009 10:21:13 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ToRm3o3O1gMEXGVN+oI+8IhZlvrtrZ5HCGsZnyaKSuo=; b=af+I4lbTGWDiXZR8eJaVE/4+x5MHzk8G+ifzgKUHwUQzWvtgfafIgP2UTO9QWwIEVS N/LROOq/8wa93Yi3kKjnpAMIl1Nq9N0+4fGLlJ3IctJRD+JPOmexre9cXGEbd+M2vZw2 vTHGgU+x4/YwoWlFIDUjddpHLm+B7haoyAoqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=JWsKnOWcd6GQN8qVe2cfnGbkRJRozOpTSvxBEaBlE1qrBBtiRWdwBgs6WQX8T+UU2K Th88E6u/L0v8EOd1dZCK/biRdL7vAMNlDSVdilZra9adCNRtTKqeaIJ7v4EGQYzeIZ3S Gem6o83qPqJHqJhRPWA/aeAmjbNOSa4o+gV4g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8C70CE9C-57E2-4CDD-A7FA-89694EE1B9A5@earthlink.net> References: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> <8C70CE9C-57E2-4CDD-A7FA-89694EE1B9A5@earthlink.net> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:14:55 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c313cf94816b119c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c598321ab4ca046aa5c53f Resent-Message-ID: <69cdjD.A.G5E.Z-RGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:21:13 +0000 (UTC) --001636c598321ab4ca046aa5c53f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash. What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( Nano technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual life in Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster of a novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy for a "trip book".. Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool stuff.. changed the way I think about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter of fact... enjoy M PS: but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH inflight fun... catch up on all them films you missed... play Super Mario... Or my favorite... (but expensive) use the seat-back phone to call a random seat for a chat!!! -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c598321ab4ca046aa5c53f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash.

What= Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( Nano technolog= y works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual life in Snow Cras= h) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster of a novel, ba= sed on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM...

I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy = for a "trip book"..

Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool = stuff.. changed the way I think about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter o= f fact...

enjoy

M

PS:
but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH infli= ght fun... catch up on all them films you missed... play Super Mario... Or = my favorite... (but expensive) use the seat-back phone to call a random sea= t for a chat!!!








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--001636c598321ab4ca046aa5c53f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 10:47:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0B3D3BE7C; Sun, 24 May 2009 10:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 03:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? From: looppool@cruzio.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <_1pvsC.A.foF.oWSGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I had read prodigously as a teenager and then didn't touch Sci Fi unti l I fell in love with Chris, twenty years ago. At the start of our relationship she turned me on to a whole new generation of writers who I thought were vastly better writers than the Isaamov, Clarke, hegemony of my youth. If you are ever in the mood, try these novels that I loved: Orson Scott Card's brilliant novel 'Enders Game' (and that whole series) Robinson's "Red Mars" series was wonderful (and that whole series) Greg Bears' "Eon" Fredrick Pohl's "Gateway" and finally John Varley's novellette "Millenium" (turned into a horrid movie) I went on to be a big fan of Varley's whole output............even the fantasy trilogy he wrote "Titan" "Wizard" "Demon" (and I am decidedly NOT a fan of fantasy literature). I really didn't enjoy the last two things he has written but the earlier stuff is wonderful. He is, imho, the best genderless writer in all of Sci Fi for my money. My wife says his female characters are absolutely spot on and convincing, which can be a big problem in male oriented Science Fiction. I just haven't read anything in the last ten years and I'm sure there must be some great stuff written. 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From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2hO9ZD.A.FyH.1STGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:51:18 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 12:47 PM, wrote: > Sci Fi Harlan Ellison is one of the old guys you did not mention. Dark and horrific sci-fi stories. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 12:00:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 089D93BE88; Sun, 24 May 2009 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1936C2.8050505@dehnhard.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:00:02 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/p0wow5fUDeldlKcHkB4eHBSYEkGkKtCciigd HtYwnOZbHSuk3fWtYGx/RgD2jMFyfI0YK+cVimrgF1w4OHOF4C paD6cpqeXHCeym4Xn0exvNijeCAiF/P Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) ian mcdonald's river of gods was once recommended by somebody on this list. wonderful! on my sci-fi-list it's no 2 after diamond age. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_of_Gods tilmann ps: concerning long flights - have you checked out headphones with noise cancelling system? you're in for a miracle. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 13:01:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 515A03BE7F; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:01:59 UTC Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:53:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_686708_1943270623.1243169632850" X-Originating-IP: [71.192.241.249] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.12_GA_2816.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.12_GA_2816.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:01:59 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_686708_1943270623.1243169632850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can skip, "Zodiac", though. It was his first and most definitely not in the same league as his later books. And don't forget William Gibson! Try "Idoru". Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:14:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash. What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( Nano technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual life in Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster of a novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy for a "trip book".. Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool stuff.. changed the way I think about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter of fact... enjoy M PS: but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH inflight fun... catch up on all them films you missed... play Super Mario... Or my favorite... (but expensive) use the seat-back phone to call a random seat for a chat!!! -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch ------=_Part_686708_1943270623.1243169632850 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
You can skip, "Zodiac", though.  It was his first and most definitely not in the same league as his later books.

And don't forget William Gibson!  Try "Idoru".

Chris

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From: "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:14:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written  in the last 10 years?

DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash.

What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( Nano technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual life in Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster of a novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM...

I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy for a "trip book"..

Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool stuff.. changed the way I think about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter of fact...

enjoy

M

PS:
but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH inflight fun... catch up on all them films you missed... play Super Mario... Or my favorite... (but expensive) use the seat-back phone to call a random seat for a chat!!!








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------=_Part_686708_1943270623.1243169632850-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 13:26:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 303463BE80; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:26:01 UTC Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:17:55 +0000 (UTC) From: eddrake1@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <242413042.3473471243171075829.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1066563912.3472961243170886487.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_169002_1931433642.1243171075828" X-Originating-IP: [71.206.169.175] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.12_GA_2816.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Mac)/5.0.12_GA_2816.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:26:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_169002_1931433642.1243171075828 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick,=20 If you like Robinson's Red Mars series then you might try his "Washington" = trilogy starting with "Forty Days of Rain". It's a very near future story o= f impending global warming disaster and the attempts of scientists and lawm= akers to try and reverse it. This isn't as far in the future or out there a= s some science fiction can get but it's a good thought provoking read. The = part of the book where DC is in a "mini ice age" and animals have to be set= free from the Zoo in DC for their own survival is great.=20 >From wikipedia :=20 The Science in the Capital series encompasses three novels: Forty Signs of = Rain (2004), Fifty Degrees Below (2005), and Sixty Days and Counting (2007)= . This series explores the consequences of global warming , both on a globa= l level and as it affects the main characters=E2=80=94several employees of = the National Science Foundation and those close to them. A recurring theme = of Robinson's that returns in this series is that of Buddhist philosophy, w= hich is represented in the series by the agency of ambassadors from Khembal= ung, a fictional Buddhist micro-state located on an offshore island in the = Ganges delta. Their state is threatened by rising sea levels, and the react= ion of the Khembalis is compared to that of the Washingtonians.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Rick Walker" =20 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" =20 Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:52:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written i= n the last 10 years?=20 I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday.=20 Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction=20 that has been written in the last ten years.=20 I used to read a lot and have loved Card, Varley, Pohl, Bear,=20 Robinson, et. al.=20 I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know who to=20 go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at least=20 20 years ago.=20 Thanks,=20 Rick=20 ------=_Part_169002_1931433642.1243171075828 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Rick,
=
If you like Robinson's Red Mars series then you might try his "Washingt= on" trilogy starting with "Forty Days of Rain". It's a very near future sto= ry of impending global warming disaster and the attempts of scientists and = lawmakers to try and reverse it. This isn't as far in the future or out the= re as some science fiction can get but it's a good thought provoking read. = The part of the book where DC is in a "mini ice age" and animals have to be= set free from the Zoo in DC for their own survival is great.


F= rom wikipedia :

The Science in the Capital series encompasses= three novels: Forty Signs of Rain (2004), Fifty Degrees Below (2005), and Sixty Days and Counting (2007). This series explores the cons= equences of global warming, both on a global level and as it af= fects the main characters=E2=80=94several employees of the National Science Foundation and those close to them. A = recurring theme of Robinson's that returns in this series is that of Buddhist philosophy, which is represented in the series by the agency of ambassadors from Khembalung, a fictional Buddhist micro-state located on an offshore island in the Ganges delta. Their state is threatened by rising sea levels, and the reaction of the Khembalis is compared to that of the Washingtonians.


----= - Original Message -----
From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>=
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= >
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:52:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<= br>Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC:    recommendations for great science f= iction written in the last 10 years?

I want something to read on my = plane ride to Europe on Wednesday.

Can you folks recommend me some r= eally good science fiction
that has been written in the last ten years.<= br>
I used to read a lot and have loved Card,  Varley,  Pohl, =  Bear,
Robinson,  et. al.

I haven't read anything in t= he past ten years so I don't know who to
go for and google searches only= seem to bring up things written at least
20 years ago.

Thanks, =  

Rick

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Glad you are saddling back on today, I look forward to catching you. See ya'll on ustream... Jim On 5/23/09, Steve Moyes wrote: > Looking forward to your broadcast tomorrow Jim. The last one was wonderful. > Thanks also for mentioning mine and for your encouragement to "get straight > back on the horse" after last weeks problems. > > It's great the way weekends are becoming virtual loopfests. I really hope > more Delightful Loopers join us soon. > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Goodin > To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 10:58 PM > Subject: Virtual Gigspam Reminder: Live tomorrow morning on uStream > > > Well ustream is beginning to become virtual festival for many of us on LD > which to me is pretty cool. > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 13:38:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB13B3BE82; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 318 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:38:17 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Hhz3wFh0ctvxK2dMerY/N0Co9FLnr7cprdXKuCuPoRI=; b=aUpk5vmy1t1Xt6EE9Zjq4MTycKWAm2xE5rSdQgdSCltxItA8IVPHy05KpVQdV7MRfv khf4qMt4uis/6Rch8Gw6vtffE7aVpxHsARVWk/C3+3HzHpIjDXB22enmiLuO40GsdCu9 cs41EqQe7ejx6ELXwncucjL2gGrhWDqI5A/uI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DOjwSwgC9v1vNRBPavnUl91mIiAE6ZIqm1dS4CKs/2o3TPevn5F/WFWgTl59vpD0rd A827SXPMCgu8/8gwgDkFOpmP4JJKUgCL7IEMwD2N8RMzSvVhPAIA1ZA34zTXJTQlwnTk 77Zwd8UNC5IA0MDST8uU02SnvOQHYXD7rRKzs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:32:41 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 624cee17d15b8963 Message-ID: <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362835b6279808046aa8876d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:38:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016362835b6279808046aa8876d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit im(extremely minority)o, Stephenson can't write characters to save his life and i find his books deadly boring (ok, let me be specific and indulge my passion for exaggeration a little less: 250 slow pages into Cryptonomicon or whatever he called it, i realized that every single person in the book was the identical blend of system analyst and amateur sleuth/reflexive information hider that i have to work with in corporate life every day, just with different circumstances. i couldn't find a spec of character in any of them, and i couldn't go on reading). and, sorry to those who've seen this recommendation before, but the best SF book, or any book, that i've read in the past 5 years was "The Time Traveler's Wife" On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Christophe wrote: > You can skip, "Zodiac", though. It was his first and most definitely not > in the same league as his later books. > > And don't forget William Gibson! Try "Idoru". > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark francombe" > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:14:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction > written in the last 10 years? > > DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash. > > What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( Nano > technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual life in > Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster of a > novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... < br> > I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy for > a "trip book".. > > Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool stuff.. changed the way I think about > e-learning (my day-job) as a matter of fact... > > enjoy > > M > > PS: > but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH inflight fun... catch up on all them > films you missed... play Super Mario... Or my favorite... (but expensive) > use the seat-back phone to call a random seat for a chat!!! > > > > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016362835b6279808046aa8876d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable im(extremely minority)o, Stephenson can't write characters to save his = life and i find his books deadly boring (ok, let me be specific and indulge= my passion for exaggeration a little less: 250 slow pages into Cryptonomic= on or whatever he called it, i realized that every single person in the boo= k was the identical blend of system analyst and amateur sleuth/reflexive in= formation hider that i have to work with in corporate life every day, just = with different circumstances. i couldn't find a spec of character in an= y of them, and i couldn't go on reading).

and, sorry to those who've seen this recommendation before, but the= best SF book, or any book, that i've read in the past 5 years was &quo= t;The Time Traveler's Wife"

On S= un, May 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Christophe <cburke55@comcast.net> wrote:
You can skip= , "Zodiac", though.=A0 It was his first and most definitely not i= n the same league as his later books.

And don't forget William Gibson!=A0 Try "Idoru".

C= hris


----- Original Message -----
From: "m= ark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:1= 4:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recomme= ndations for great science fiction written =A0in the last 10 years?

DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash.

=
What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a worl= d for a bit ( Nano technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a seco= nd virtual life in Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting= rollacoaster of a novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... < br>
I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy = for a "trip book"..

Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool = stuff.. changed the way I think about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter o= f fact...

enjoy

M

PS:
but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH infli= ght fun... catch up on all them films you missed... play Super Mario... Or = my favorite... (but expensive) use the seat-back phone to call a random sea= t for a chat!!!








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http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
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--0016362835b6279808046aa8876d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 13:41:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 861553BE80; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WE+18cpX1yqGJMWGvrNIkpJYswqY/H5RKfeqlOOpa4Y=; b=UhHPkBL6O9Ry5bmuBQwAw6PUOwlm/Idv9Mrj+ruAP59mdFzFACwCv5TVzmBh9aj3NY J+CYqyvo2uqpmd4KH0y7w+ulQ73XrO7CkytFiIoQFoiNfmctq1H5YVcqCSCuqd20alc3 trxQNW1sW9FaVk1RCh0hhvLCTaZ1Pb6EAF1OI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zn/5UG2Ra76ObZ1Ap04jzIQ4mT90l5XRkwzWW7ylHIr502RfDjpwuQwonHPa81r9wh ryeSvkvkJLkyVgNIcEs7HcZIF+IaYQv7LAak28Y5h6A3mMcvgC9fBALT2i7YsxOjYO5B +RTnUCVezrZW2MGrZTcao9RLFWceJcgVYrtJk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1936C2.8050505@dehnhard.com> References: <4A1936C2.8050505@dehnhard.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:40:56 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905240640v5ef5dbbex6b6fc14907ada740@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:41:16 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wr= ote: > river of gods Gosh, reminds me of The Riveworld by Philip Jos=C3=A9 Farmer. He is "pre 1990" but if you have not read that suit you have to! Just mentioning it since Rick left out this one from the "old SF" listing. Info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverworld per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 13:53:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C2603BE90; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:53:48 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Agh! This one's kind of hard, considering I sort of stopped reading fiction a decade or two ago. Before that, I was a pretty voracious SF reader. Maybe I can hit a thing or two you've missed, though.... At 3:47 AM -0700 5/24/09, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > >Robinson's "Red Mars" series was wonderful If you're a fan of KSR, then you might enjoy his first collection of short stories: "The Planet on the Table". It features two of his most well-known, "The Lucky Strike" and "Venice Drowned". The former of those I still consider one of the best SF stories written in the past couple decades. Per mentioned Ellison, who is another one of my favorites. "Stalking the Nightmare" is especially good, IMNSHO. As you can tell, I've obviously got a soft spot for short stories when I travel. I've usually got an even shorter attention span than normal (so there's no way I'm going to finish a novel, considering all the interruptions/distractions during normal travelling). They also point me to new authors I might want to pursue further work from. In that same spirit, I might also suggest one of the compilations of "The Year's Best Science Fiction" from the past few years. Similar compilations exist for the Hugo Award and Nebula Award nominees from every year as well. >John Varley's novellette "Millenium" (turned into a horrid movie) Also, Millenium was expanded into a full-sized novel, and it's not really any better. I agree: stick with the novelette. Varley's novelette, "Press Enter", is similarly brilliant. >I went on to be a big fan of Varley's whole output............even the >fantasy trilogy he wrote "Titan" "Wizard" "Demon" (and I am decidedly >NOT a fan of fantasy literature). Agree. I started with "Titan" then went on to become a voracious Varley reader. In a similar vein/writing style, you might also take a look at Joe Haldeman's early stuff. He's only been writing war novels for the past few years, I believe, but early works like "The Forever War" and "All My Sins Remembered" are brilliant. >He [Varley] is, imho, the best genderless writer in all of Sci Fi >for my money. >My wife says his female characters are absolutely spot on and convincing, >which can be a big problem in male oriented Science Fiction. Uhm, IIRC, isn't John Varley actually a woman writing under a male pen name? I believe that's how Varley is able to write such believable female characters. Good luck! --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 14:15:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8122D3BE80; Sun, 24 May 2009 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:15:47 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) At 10:53 PM +0900 5/24/09, Mech wrote: > >>He [Varley] is, imho, the best genderless writer in all of Sci Fi >>for my money. >>My wife says his female characters are absolutely spot on and convincing, >>which can be a big problem in male oriented Science Fiction. > >Uhm, IIRC, isn't John Varley actually a woman writing under a male >pen name? I believe that's how Varley is able to write such >believable female characters. Ah crumbs. I just checked the Internets. I guess that was just an old urban legend that Varley was a woman. Still writes female characters better than just about any else in SF, though.... --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 14:17:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BEBA3BE82; Sun, 24 May 2009 14:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=qRKG+i993victUC3wfi8nB8fFPLXoPD60t9O9mUEIYs=; b=WRLCPDERH0PgwJQbsaNyW7k+Emj03CnUvZGqzz8pyqu3kMEPelvwyLaGcgyhBtermX pKFKVt+Nymua5JIjukBMNJ0pD2gKhScOmMlB4NqfNofEyxL2KTrt5CDujgdzNBp8ywl5 iaJJ9b1YsX7sBV1SB7Iu1+/RNkfBUnIjdDnvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=j1gJNMyJuFvWuuR4W1U4k2zJRkWDguI/Egi8vZUGslyAvO3nHVzbMbkSCUsW4KrbuF pUAN7FFqS9LAeb4Yqqm8zTiCHrH2ScCvOe0qY0FtUTb7aWWb4rp3yS9UFu3YM148ZN2y 9MFt5bgKL1083lrc0M9BiueEszuUEG/Na6xEY= Message-Id: <3BFE0E92-D4D6-435A-B40F-E5FA7BAB186E@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-726970237 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:17:38 -0700 References: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:17:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-726970237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On May 23, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. > > Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction > that has been written in the last ten years. Recent: Manifold: Space, and also, Manifold: Time by Stephen Baxter (good mind- bending stuff) Seeker - Jack McDevitt (not Space Opera, more like detective mystery set in future) Wheelers by Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen (nice in system sprawling stuff, quite fun) Oldie Goldies, in case you missed em: Dan Simmons - Hyperion David Brin - Startide Rising, and also, Earth Gregory Benford - Galactic Center series ( I would start with Great Sky River read thru to final books then jump back to beginning of series.) Michael Swanwick -Stations of the Tide Vernor Vinge - most of his stuff interesting. Fantasy: Robert Jordan - Wheel of Time, Book one is Eye of the World (If you have not tried them, really well imagined stuff) Stephen Donaldson - Lord Foul's Bane (first 3 books of the Covenant series are an interesting take on fantasy genre) Have a splendid trip and tour. regards BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 --Apple-Mail-1-726970237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On May 23, 2009, = at 10:52 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

I want something to read on my = plane ride to Europe on Wednesday.

Can you folks recommend me = some really good science fiction
that has been written in the last = ten years.


= --Apple-Mail-1-726970237-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 14:33:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B1973BE84; Sun, 24 May 2009 14:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=n/vDgbOm1SSRkG2ggWJ36ayEkQCW1GC4JoECGG3yIS8=; b=IphAid8wf2CXgjvh+1nYe2Z6t5KdHwlQRDkazp9FTSwIluGO+zoamtXiOgO5vmslI3 jmDwwEwIKCMpefxOeE/NZvSMnxh1MFISZ2Mxjo3GpZO2nZQXgcEF9J9EAmYkWfQVRBE/ liiWo3kRddj8Jqv8JViV6e8CkOMTGoYt9pJbk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Wa4QGzOFg6YxS8fhr1Rj6atBF1+CGLeZWfVr8+z1HeoEaUP/oc3K8Ox6tFSCj8eHes m9iba6Gqp6umSFCr83W55Y9xxjpCHtc2jd60YzxFaY21USZPO/ToQiEzLbkWAV83xKPq pKTqBFV9Zhz6O74hqoFrowinfAvk98nXjVgDY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:27:44 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ab955cacc62fb6f5 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0905240727w3607decelb9b6c5eca2a901e2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c598323749ff046aa94d82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:33:44 +0000 (UTC) --001636c598323749ff046aa94d82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ahh.. I HAD forgotton about Cryptonomicon or whatever he called it, ... I actually couldnt get 25 pages in. Im not in any way a Stevenson fan (more a PKDick fan) but Diamond age (and in a fun simplistic way Snow Crash) are both brilliant... Warrens statement that he can't write a character, is um.... er...true, but well.. um.. er... sorry Warren... boring... Its what people come up with when they just dont like a book, but can't say why. To be honest, after years of wallowing in arty farty clever clogs books (Burroughs Joyce Poe ) I just cant be bothered with those long and tiresome descriptions of "real" characters.. (unless its Jane Austin) yawn.. does EVERY book have to spend 4 chapters building motives and describing backgrounds, and warming up... no.. what I want is A) a great story, as in a beginning a middle and and a proper, old fashioned, clever, resolving, end. And... B) a good idea. So many novels I read are long sprawling desciptions of seemier gritty real ... Im sick of it... Give me something unreal, new, original, creative and surprising. And get to the story on page one. cheers Mark OH.. and a NON- SF recommendation: My fave book infact. A conspiracy of dunces. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > im(extremely minority)o, Stephenson can't write characters to save his life > and i find his books deadly boring (ok, let me be specific and indulge my > passion for exaggeration a little less: 250 slow pages into Cryptonomicon or > whatever he called it, i realized that every single person in the book was > the identical blend of system analyst and amateur sleuth/reflexive > information hider that i have to work with in corporate life every day, just > with different circumstances. i couldn't find a spec of character in any of > them, and i couldn't go on reading). > > and, sorry to those who've seen this recommendation before, but the best SF > book, or any book, that i've read in the past 5 years was "The Time > Traveler's Wife" > > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Christophe wrote: > >> You can skip, "Zodiac", though. It was his first and most definitely not >> in the same league as his later books. >> >> And don't forget William Gibson! Try "Idoru". >> >> Chris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mark francombe" >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:14:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction >> written in the last 10 years? >> >> DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash. >> >> What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( Nano >> technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual life in >> Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster of a >> novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... < br> >> I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy for >> a "trip book".. >> >> Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool stuff.. changed the way I think >> about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter of fact... >> >> enjoy >> >> M >> >> PS: >> but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH inflight fun... catch up on all them >> films you missed... play Super Mario... Or my favorite... (but expensive) >> use the seat-back phone to call a random seat for a chat!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c598323749ff046aa94d82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahh.. I HAD forgotton about Cryptonomicon or whatever he called it, ... I a= ctually couldnt get 25 pages in. Im not in any way a Stevenson fan (more a = PKDick fan) but Diamond age (and in a fun simplistic way Snow Crash) are bo= th brilliant...

Warrens statement that he can't write a character, is um.... er...t= rue, but well.. um.. er... sorry Warren... boring...
Its what people co= me up with when they just dont like a book, but can't say why.

To be honest, after years of wallowing in arty farty clever clogs books (Bu= rroughs Joyce Poe ) I just cant be bothered with those long and tiresome de= scriptions of "real" characters.. (unless its Jane Austin) yawn..= does EVERY book have to spend 4 chapters building motives and describing b= ackgrounds, and warming up... no.. what I want is
A) a great story, as in a beginning a middle and and a proper, old fashione= d, clever, resolving, end. And...
B) a good idea. So many novels I read = are long sprawling desciptions of seemier gritty real ... Im sick of it... = Give me something unreal, new, original, creative and surprising. And get t= o the story on page one.

cheers

Mark

OH.. and a NON- SF recommendation: My fave bo= ok infact. A conspiracy of dunces.



On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> = wrote:
im(extremely mino= rity)o, Stephenson can't write characters to save his life and i find h= is books deadly boring (ok, let me be specific and indulge my passion for e= xaggeration a little less: 250 slow pages into Cryptonomicon or whatever he= called it, i realized that every single person in the book was the identic= al blend of system analyst and amateur sleuth/reflexive information hider t= hat i have to work with in corporate life every day, just with different ci= rcumstances. i couldn't find a spec of character in any of them, and i = couldn't go on reading).

and, sorry to those who've seen this recommendation before, but the= best SF book, or any book, that i've read in the past 5 years was &quo= t;The Time Traveler's Wife"


On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Christophe = <cburke55@comcast.net> wrote:
You can skip= , "Zodiac", though.=A0 It was his first and most definitely not i= n the same league as his later books.

And don't forget William Gibson!=A0 Try "Idoru".

C= hris


----- Original Message -----
From: "mark francombe= " <mark= @markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:1= 4:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recomme= ndations for great science fiction written =A0in the last 10 years?

DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash.

=
What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit (= Nano technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual li= fe in Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster= of a novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... < br>
I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy = for a "trip book"..

Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool = stuff.. changed the way I think about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter o= f fact...

enjoy

M

PS:
but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH infli= ght fun... catch up on all them films you missed... play Super Mario... Or = my favorite... (but expensive) use the seat-back phone to call a random sea= t for a chat!!!








--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825= 094
http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch



= --
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.= taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warren= sirota.com



--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--001636c598323749ff046aa94d82-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 14:49:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EC903BE75; Sun, 24 May 2009 14:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YkFv1W85lxLw1XQeijGPsfJ38CXYoBJTEaLrdH3ix44=; b=L11gJHmn6KxTjoh/+IJbC+IWwLnjkmvFZoycJGUUb0w23bznZgV4rLr/d4agIs0dRX Qr+Rn8Z1qtqUar2Q0Hmftw/WokCMxTNRXsInAy6m+DZZAFXstpbheZgrmWyg/vNnZi+z u+O0RBP2A2JgIy2PIPKodcQjoP6GsAC+acrtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cIcY/zDKcqHCN9KYajQXUnNJN0kO5fsGM5XoMgHq+FwqvfOt6VuGCyB5y3gHSkOvDj 6ogtaGE2MDC+NGwnHQh9CLREfp0fCrDU8g/uj3Vzi1FeBoJlxqurfxN9V2KP4Bs2BtQJ YMlWyYjmHfIcPqzOdO2OA8ogCcWaGuznW+GyE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0905240727w3607decelb9b6c5eca2a901e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905240727w3607decelb9b6c5eca2a901e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:49:47 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90905240749g477e15bese1b9e0bce123f1a1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_Zb6dD.A.9WF.L6VGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Pattern recognition by William Gibson. Sylvain On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > Ahh.. I HAD forgotton about Cryptonomicon or whatever he called it, ... I > actually couldnt get 25 pages in. Im not in any way a Stevenson fan (more= a > PKDick fan) but Diamond age (and in a fun simplistic way Snow Crash) are > both brilliant... > > Warrens statement that he can't write a character, is um.... er...true, b= ut > well.. um.. er... sorry Warren... boring... > Its what people come up with when they just dont like a book, but can't s= ay > why. > > To be honest, after years of wallowing in arty farty clever clogs books > (Burroughs Joyce Poe ) I just cant be bothered with those long and tireso= me > descriptions of "real" characters.. (unless its Jane Austin) yawn.. does > EVERY book have to spend 4 chapters building motives and describing > backgrounds, and warming up... no.. what I want is > A) a great story, as in a beginning a middle and and a proper, old > fashioned, clever, resolving, end. And... > B) a good idea. So many novels I read are long sprawling desciptions of > seemier gritty real ... Im sick of it... Give me something unreal, new, > original, creative and surprising. And get to the story on page one. > > cheers > > Mark > > OH.. and a NON- SF recommendation: My fave book infact. A conspiracy of > dunces. > > > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Warren Sirota > wrote: >> >> im(extremely minority)o, Stephenson can't write characters to save his >> life and i find his books deadly boring (ok, let me be specific and indu= lge >> my passion for exaggeration a little less: 250 slow pages into Cryptonom= icon >> or whatever he called it, i realized that every single person in the boo= k >> was the identical blend of system analyst and amateur sleuth/reflexive >> information hider that i have to work with in corporate life every day, = just >> with different circumstances. i couldn't find a spec of character in any= of >> them, and i couldn't go on reading). >> >> and, sorry to those who've seen this recommendation before, but the best >> SF book, or any book, that i've read in the past 5 years was "The Time >> Traveler's Wife" >> >> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Christophe wrote= : >>> >>> You can skip, "Zodiac", though.=A0 It was his first and most definitely= not >>> in the same league as his later books. >>> >>> And don't forget William Gibson!=A0 Try "Idoru". >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "mark francombe" >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:14:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction >>> written =A0in the last 10 years? >>> >>> DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash. >>> >>> What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( Nano >>> technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual life= in >>> Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster o= f a >>> novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... < br> >>> I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy >>> for a "trip book".. >>> >>> Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool stuff.. changed the way I think >>> about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter of fact... >>> >>> enjoy >>> >>> M >>> >>> PS: >>> but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH inflight fun... catch up on all th= em >>> films you missed... play Super Mario... Or my favorite... (but expensiv= e) >>> use the seat-back phone to call a random seat for a chat!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >>> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >>> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch >> >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 >> http://www.warrensirota.com > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 14:51:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB4053BE80; Sun, 24 May 2009 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 414 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 24 May 2009 14:51:54 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 786295.57302.bm@omp209.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243176299; bh=5L5HITWY0wB0BnJp7/ufpxNGp9bIqiLxzE08bwGHNjg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jjwrtnI1Rg9S2DGvc32Xjo3/750oX+NhLyuY5kBNtHmAViC87AhegVn8dluC0pa1yZ9EFZ9tp4n+wnKmcShbSvhGG/dTMAYwUPfS34ydKvAbm3wVPAWLWl/91DzC4KTv6V5RaPEiyNbwGuxEPdjh+SpvynbW39Y0uC2yHIZhBgU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A+nmedxK+ksxeD/zzJeQOZwn0g14Igzi7TDKaPyVNCN8SUNRprWurOTNAKLlC3KUiW4Jshwn0z5yCzWjjSEPaf6Bf2rspWgvdEtZx/S7QXBRUVGVajix3kjFwA0vQM3ISoZgu0pIBV58aSN7fB1ah18RRhLAC/w480lLfcip3TA=; Message-ID: <575529.80968.qm@web45305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1RMgleMVM1nDNrQJvFRDAb1x3rprv2soym_5jvGLz7qeDV4LiC3Xz6QN1.ViFY90jm2RPNr4VNee5rPShj4bLzUg2azCEiDkuZR4K3iePJlsJ02ylwgsFpauSvBwgs_Kiyv4E8Rcqfk3TFBl9PIEZsrrO0.c2e3G_XJjPMxssjP5FUUohIzFld1iqcutCRmxVvIKwX4A2eGSVjHjKqCUeiSFGySTUJvh4D93IIyxAzx0dbPHg.vHvBJdMyQIFb6Sme27UB3SVXOCXlxNlojGQIRtkrZ9KLEnN.G46hRaMrOOgTS0UKP477Rt5xiS4pPHaVZr74tjEwbdc5PRE7tkRso- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Maybe I'm just easy, but I loved 'Confederacy of Dunces' AND 'The Time Traveler's Wife' AND 'Cryptonomicon'... Not sci-fi at all, (and not even very far OT) but I did recommend to Rick offlist Alex Ross's "The Rest Is Noise". Shall we consider that particular kettle of fish open? -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 14:53:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97CA43BE86; Sun, 24 May 2009 14:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=S2jGqVu/CPrYpBV7GnwgfXZrNiK/uKFu81gi2V2hPnU=; b=QQpQGvsaVyXEP+FqMe0XMkLfFLrmVtfEpalq5czLaUWu8LIJgFB8bR0rmr7aiv4RAV lLmmRyi5SIZkEOND3p35YIQbEVLk0WIle89ZuowJDcaSt6TZxoK5qWi2QbpftU2xzX0U JztHPZbumER2yZwEhOklS/MD+sVp8t99x0jRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Dq1YlAI7KsduAmM3auZGJR/m+nVY6YRMhL29jVWHgukCy1ImDxV2KuE81LFALXgnd4 ALGyY6suvmoaf0zWQa31X/d44h+wUTwzxS9yFyS9VEBh8pyRWrH1h92pUYFMRT8RIsMe iR05n8zhMf8i3POkAMLGljgbXr3swDUYp/d4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0905240727w3607decelb9b6c5eca2a901e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905240727w3607decelb9b6c5eca2a901e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:53:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e2967adf50c94b34 Message-ID: <101191640905240753g1fd02227s9ab1b818c19c181c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636164ad1ba7a2b046aa9a7ce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:53:23 +0000 (UTC) --001636164ad1ba7a2b046aa9a7ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mark, No offense taken, but in this case, it is very clear to me that it is *exactly* why i put down Crypto*. The judgment may be boring or even inaccurate, but vague, no. and i also have to agree that a crisply-written plot that moves along and a big idea or two can easily trump character, (but i don't think you can achieve that if all the characters are too similar). And maybe i just had the bad luck to read a Stephenson book that was atypical, if you put this one down too and liked the others. Gotta second the vote for Hyperion that BobC made above - that was excellent. Warren On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Ahh.. I HAD forgotton about Cryptonomicon or whatever he called it, ... I > actually couldnt get 25 pages in. Im not in any way a Stevenson fan (more a > PKDick fan) but Diamond age (and in a fun simplistic way Snow Crash) are > both brilliant... > > Warrens statement that he can't write a character, is um.... er...true, but > well.. um.. er... sorry Warren... boring... > Its what people come up with when they just dont like a book, but can't say > why. > > To be honest, after years of wallowing in arty farty clever clogs books > (Burroughs Joyce Poe ) I just cant be bothered with those long and tiresome > descriptions of "real" characters.. (unless its Jane Austin) yawn.. does > EVERY book have to spend 4 chapters building motives and describing > backgrounds, and warming up... no.. what I want is > A) a great story, as in a beginning a middle and and a proper, old > fashioned, clever, resolving, end. And... > B) a good idea. So many novels I read are long sprawling desciptions of > seemier gritty real ... Im sick of it... Give me something unreal, new, > original, creative and surprising. And get to the story on page one. > > cheers > > Mark > > OH.. and a NON- SF recommendation: My fave book infact. A conspiracy of > dunces. > > > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> im(extremely minority)o, Stephenson can't write characters to save his >> life and i find his books deadly boring (ok, let me be specific and indulge >> my passion for exaggeration a little less: 250 slow pages into Cryptonomicon >> or whatever he called it, i realized that every single person in the book >> was the identical blend of system analyst and amateur sleuth/reflexive >> information hider that i have to work with in corporate life every day, just >> with different circumstances. i couldn't find a spec of character in any of >> them, and i couldn't go on reading). >> >> and, sorry to those who've seen this recommendation before, but the best >> SF book, or any book, that i've read in the past 5 years was "The Time >> Traveler's Wife" >> >> >> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Christophe wrote: >> >>> You can skip, "Zodiac", though. It was his first and most definitely not >>> in the same league as his later books. >>> >>> And don't forget William Gibson! Try "Idoru". >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "mark francombe" >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:14:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction >>> written in the last 10 years? >>> >>> DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash. >>> >>> What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( Nano >>> technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual life in >>> Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster of a >>> novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... < br> >>> I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy >>> for a "trip book".. >>> >>> Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool stuff.. changed the way I think >>> about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter of fact... >>> >>> enjoy >>> >>> M >>> >>> PS: >>> but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH inflight fun... catch up on all them >>> films you missed... play Super Mario... Or my favorite... (but expensive) >>> use the seat-back phone to call a random seat for a chat!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >>> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >>> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --001636164ad1ba7a2b046aa9a7ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark,

No offense taken, but in this case, it is very clear to me= that it is *exactly* why i put down Crypto*. The judgment may be boring or= even inaccurate, but vague, no. and i also have to agree that a crisply-wr= itten plot that moves along and a big idea or two can easily trump characte= r, (but i don't think you can achieve that if all the characters are to= o similar).

And maybe i just had the bad luck to read a Stephenson book that was at= ypical, if you put this one down too and liked the others.

Gotta sec= ond the vote for Hyperion that BobC made above - that was excellent.

Warren

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:27 = AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Ahh.. I HAD forgotton about Cryptonomicon or whatever he called it, ... I a= ctually couldnt get 25 pages in. Im not in any way a Stevenson fan (more a = PKDick fan) but Diamond age (and in a fun simplistic way Snow Crash) are bo= th brilliant...

Warrens statement that he can't write a character, is um.... er...t= rue, but well.. um.. er... sorry Warren... boring...
Its what people co= me up with when they just dont like a book, but can't say why.

To be honest, after years of wallowing in arty farty clever clogs books (Bu= rroughs Joyce Poe ) I just cant be bothered with those long and tiresome de= scriptions of "real" characters.. (unless its Jane Austin) yawn..= does EVERY book have to spend 4 chapters building motives and describing b= ackgrounds, and warming up... no.. what I want is
A) a great story, as in a beginning a middle and and a proper, old fashione= d, clever, resolving, end. And...
B) a good idea. So many novels I read = are long sprawling desciptions of seemier gritty real ... Im sick of it... = Give me something unreal, new, original, creative and surprising. And get t= o the story on page one.

cheers

Mark

OH.. and a NON- SF recommendation: My fave bo= ok infact. A conspiracy of dunces.


On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Warre= n Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
im(extremely mino= rity)o, Stephenson can't write characters to save his life and i find h= is books deadly boring (ok, let me be specific and indulge my passion for e= xaggeration a little less: 250 slow pages into Cryptonomicon or whatever he= called it, i realized that every single person in the book was the identic= al blend of system analyst and amateur sleuth/reflexive information hider t= hat i have to work with in corporate life every day, just with different ci= rcumstances. i couldn't find a spec of character in any of them, and i = couldn't go on reading).

and, sorry to those who've seen this recommendation before, but the= best SF book, or any book, that i've read in the past 5 years was &quo= t;The Time Traveler's Wife"


On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Christophe = <cburke55@comcast.net> wrote:
You can skip= , "Zodiac", though.=A0 It was his first and most definitely not i= n the same league as his later books.

And don't forget William Gibson!=A0 Try "Idoru".

C= hris


----- Original Message -----
From: "mark francombe= " <mark= @markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:1= 4:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recomme= ndations for great science fiction written =A0in the last 10 years?

DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash.

=
What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit (= Nano technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second virtual li= fe in Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill exiting rollacoaster= of a novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE HIM... < br>
I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and heavy = for a "trip book"..

Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool = stuff.. changed the way I think about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter o= f fact...

enjoy

M

PS:
but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH infli= ght fun... catch up on all them films you missed... play Super Mario... Or = my favorite... (but expensive) use the seat-back phone to call a random sea= t for a chat!!!








--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825= 094
http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch



= --
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.= taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warren= sirota.com



--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch



--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ube= too.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warrensirota.com
--001636164ad1ba7a2b046aa9a7ce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 14:56:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1C5E3BE93; Sun, 24 May 2009 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <16217.72.22.1243176967.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> References: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:56:07 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Not that recent, but I really enjoyed Dan Simmons "Hyperion". On Sun, May 24, 2009 1:52 am, Rick Walker wrote: > I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. > > Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction > that has been written in the last ten years. > > I used to read a lot and have loved Card, Varley, Pohl, Bear, > Robinson, et. al. > > I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know who to > go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at least > 20 years ago. > > Thanks, > > Rick > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 15:07:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 840CF3BE92; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0BQ7wutuo4LHH4PXEbI+ZoqUBkWY8jwYxxoN1uQl3vw=; b=kLZZnq9BJdHGXmIDRzsD5qQxniJGa5d4RaArkVwj8xftV7D/WrByQON+Nc/zmpGkqz Q3oPqS/nAS70bg7wERnYMqNvwWr6DkxCHXJuf9LQTzfrEZNS78foW+iDla4AIBMbhswu m9mw4sk6GxPL/5HH2ynQ9xa/NlbF1UxOplKH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=atJPC/UUW+dOEaRRtOeOmogv03J0eucQ4LwkjF+Be9XRV9Yzh0kn9VMVGMaQi4nARe x8s7mOpmntTsMuKye1AzrM7laEbpYl0OBHZ6QnXpOMQRChy9XkChqntH18SC7Two/FRH YEreHGGcvINdI3Q/9AMHiP8RQHIKjH8KKtgns= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4e05ffe20905240806w5abc0621gf117768a942029bc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New to list, looping --read archives --still have question From: Craig Dallendorfer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I read the Line 6 DL 4 Delay Modeler review. It was comprehensive. However, since now having to return a few things purchased first, thought to ask this. I am looking to back a guitar with an Alesis Drum unit and a Bass groove. The Bass groove is what would be looped --only. What I am finding, recently with a Boss RC-2 and a loop feature on a Logitech Digital Delay pedal is the ability to synchronize the pedal with, for instance the Alesis unit, which graphically LCD's the tempo as well. I checked the looping pedals against as well a KORG Metronome MA-30. It demonstrated visually as well as audibly the tempo's were actually fluxuating and in a number of measures, were completely off. I realize there is a talent to do this --to be sure. However, the Boss RC-2 touted an auto start and correction feature. (It is possibly working overtime here.) However, I did have the same issue with the Digital Delay loop setting, but was better off. I was considering the Line 6 DL 4 in an exchange for the Boss RC-2. However, if I am making myself clear, I hope (?), am I wasting my time in doing so. I woun't leave out the Alesis as a "fault" here, however this is the first time this has showed itself as an issue. And, if I say so myself, I have a great internal clock --otherwise, likely this would not disturb me as much as it does. As it stands not, this attempt, does not "server the song", so am dropping it, in lue of just the guitar alone and possibly with the Alesis unit for added musicality. Nonetheless, I've seen amazing performances, as I guess you all have with the layering that can be done live. However, I did not see them combining digital resources, other than the main unit they used (with many, many wires --whatever it might have been) and their one instrument --an acoustic guitar. My needs, I believe are basic and simple. I'd be "happy" with even a solid one beat per measure root note in Key, let alone a 1/4 note backing beat to "fill out" the sound. (No complicated slapping and popping syncopated rhythms will ever likely be attempted.) If that's clear, I hope, just a short --this is what you need, read for youself, or a --you need the training for start-stop we've all been through [...] that'll do. Thank you, in advance, (and to the member who ref'd me here from another list... --good stuff here, indeed). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 15:41:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93C4C3BE80; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243179685; bh=Qh53ElP68at9vY8HW9P1lgS6Wqp4EzY1jbE0VGM/I0I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mHs/82LKzkD14VG8p2m4qo8GN5mjKk01d8SuJYR4EI00wdSiYYVz5wxVhGgzRHJKC+ckK+uTgdVqX0qPzCciKW0vmlyUttFBqZzi/hw6Q2pcN0NkwiffYQDD0/i+GF1ITwdBavn3PfAhtgZsXTovMALu1gP90TF8Azb6WELC4RE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0SupHs6+5sGDCCkQONo3K+t/zsi3XBWXbumzXRgKeBq+F62CWTicRA1+BHjhoWZfdJpEs/tt8UxCpiChw5w8Yv21ImVOyZv0x8aFcQNfAL9y+gW5/fkCoKDOUSAmpjPNNhV+W5lHC+FKpWTpQxQ5Cl/KJ7m53ro6SdBgO/Ct9Go=; Message-ID: <481182.45344.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:41:25 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: dobro looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:41:26 +0000 (UTC) by the way guys i am looking to buy a Dobro Guitar,for the money what can u= guys recomend? i am looking for one with a pickup on it that still preserv= es the Dobro sound,ive tried a couple with humbuckers on them but didnt rea= lly like them amplified since they didnt have that mid honky sound! thanx Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- doc rossi schrieb am Sa, 23.5.2009: > Von: doc rossi > Betreff: dobro looping > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Samstag, 23. Mai 2009, 10:55 > A sweet little pop tune on > Dobro.=A0 The looping won't be that interesting to you > wizards, but have you ever seen a left-handed Dobro player? >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dx1JvWaKizG8&eurl=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ere= so%2Dnation%2Eorg%2Fnode%3Fpage%3D3&feature=3Dplayer_embedded >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 16:42:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4271D3BE82; Sun, 24 May 2009 16:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.121.155] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0905240727w3607decelb9b6c5eca2a901e2@mail.gmail.com> <2871c3a90905240749g477e15bese1b9e0bce123f1a1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:42:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2009 16:42:28.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FBF2220:01C9DC8E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Read the entire Rama series by Arther C. Clarke. Astounding. Nothing is like the classics. Other than that, Neverness by David Zindell is gerat, as is Fire Upon the Deep by Vinge Vernor. Anything from Vernor is great. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 17:22:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDEB53BE7C; Sun, 24 May 2009 17:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9E8CCB89-424A-43AB-BC64-39EA985A2B6F@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:22:25 -0700 References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:22:25 +0000 (UTC) I haven't read any other Neal Stephenson, though I've been meaning to. My review of Snow Crash was that the first couple chapters were brilliant but the rest of the book didn't sustain that quality. I used to be heavily into SF, but haven't read much in years. Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials is fantasy rather than SF, but I would rate it as definitely worth reading. Smilla's Sense of Snow has some SF-ish aspects though it's basically more of a thriller. My standard travel reading has been Michael Dibdin's Aurelio Zen mysteries which have no SF content. Alas, Dibdin died recently. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 18:51:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 390C33BE85; Sun, 24 May 2009 18:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tvXAWIgVzM+bwmuwNZg4zswxBeAD+8yJbxk8a/CC1LI=; b=IV3nq+1WGMud7o0Gx/0c8GPbWibFpsP6r5doLGBRc+lF1NIXpctavhiFdaWha5REaG WKUfxe079FiMP/Tg3bZzFSfpHpXXHexU6KIFSrwTpQV4XhMHixL38RLWC8B0QBEV5u+q mQVzVLUb+WpMSY5IHQR378CGNE+gZ+dPsRHrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CZGN4KcFM5K+4IYax4E6Hl9iXcW3VrBAuvcTX+3bTJ8jHv0zd+EkSz5VGW0Cdgv8r2 ujdpDc+a6f869BI8wEPMoBzzAUxqjKStS5qYET0rujE8AC8hFYEl0zGArEzFis2L2IW+ kNP+LRN7k4sD8w/pBPRNz5pRVG7XiVPDRqb5E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9E8CCB89-424A-43AB-BC64-39EA985A2B6F@grubmah.com> References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> <9E8CCB89-424A-43AB-BC64-39EA985A2B6F@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905241151i65bc7e76i51a9f21b65a6f3cf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:51:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Smilla's Sense of Snow has some SF-ish aspects though it's basically more of > a thriller. Yeah, that's a good one that know Rick will like! And it was in fact written less than ten years back as opposed to many other suggestions that have passed this thread ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 19:06:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 738AA3BE7C; Sun, 24 May 2009 19:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=H0sQD3GOk2K1wIBYVesp6jMT9DCl7dDMRL7RuVxXt/5PsSIitaxSGMCuxpqxqwgw; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <2839560.1243191979973.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:06:19 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48e3813f31c286248104b9010456a46ece510ab3ad090af031350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.33 Resent-Message-ID: <_G-fpC.A.rwE.sqZGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:06:20 +0000 (UTC) hey! you promised not to tell! :-) stan card >I used to read a lot and have loved Card... >Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 19:43:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5675D3BE80; Sun, 24 May 2009 19:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fVUc2agp+KrcKiBoc6brfDE2m3G7XsVRoaClvoJkRuA=; b=V/PSW/tvrgGkbzwv1ciZHXacvF7QWtWoE4Fo9K4H0zIwQfcNr6MlMLzSNgAUhUAIQa 908WrDixAtLzkLAZmLODB7PQTyqi4+9CLBAKOOBk4/oaAMvwLaXTfJx6n9U+bp0jWpru cAaryg9pJDm6akLmuLPlpBfi0UAfo9sAG7i4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=trkLPZlXXGp+Gpbff7rgD2qvLbyhVLQFJw4lTjTi+NMnMQlwl7mMXTHDZlKvgp6ABO 3zfNGlOD9I3hbQ7YcLySzNZ536UwFDpvUd7sSlReuNM3AWuqCLY4ahLeh7f/n7EbgNla 3+3KJs1DED5bULgH8LrP22qFh9WMAIRdOuWW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4e05ffe20905240806w5abc0621gf117768a942029bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <4e05ffe20905240806w5abc0621gf117768a942029bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:43:40 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 545161b3d79a2ffd Message-ID: <101191640905241243v3b29a2a8h4f515e435d45ba5e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New to list, looping --read archives --still have question From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e88c6e69f68046aadb5ac Resent-Message-ID: <0HVeKB.A.AvF.tNaGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:43:41 +0000 (UTC) --0016361e88c6e69f68046aadb5ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm not familiar with the various equipment that you have here, but the underlying truth (I say this in full expectation of immediately finding someone who disagrees) is that manual sync only works for a very short while before drift is evident, regardless of how good you are. If you want to sync your bass lines with your drum machine, you need to use a looper that understands midi sync, and send midi from the drum machine to the looper. that looper might be certain hardware loopers, or it might be sent to a software looper in a computer, but an RC-2 cannot sync to anything, or send sync. Warren On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Craig Dallendorfer wrote: > Hello, > > I read the Line 6 DL 4 Delay Modeler review. It was comprehensive. > However, since now having to return a few things purchased first, > thought to ask this. > > I am looking to back a guitar with an Alesis Drum unit and a Bass > groove. The Bass groove is what would be looped --only. > > What I am finding, recently with a Boss RC-2 and a loop feature on a > Logitech Digital Delay pedal is the ability to synchronize the pedal > with, for instance the Alesis unit, which graphically LCD's the tempo > as well. > > I checked the looping pedals against as well a KORG Metronome MA-30. > It demonstrated visually as well as audibly the tempo's were actually > fluxuating and in a number of measures, were completely off. > > I realize there is a talent to do this --to be sure. However, the Boss > RC-2 touted an auto start and correction feature. (It is possibly > working overtime here.) However, I did have the same issue with the > Digital Delay loop setting, but was better off. > > I was considering the Line 6 DL 4 in an exchange for the Boss RC-2. > However, if I am making myself clear, I hope (?), am I wasting my time > in doing so. > > I woun't leave out the Alesis as a "fault" here, however this is the > first time this has showed itself as an issue. And, if I say so > myself, I have a great internal clock --otherwise, likely this would > not disturb me as much as it does. > > > As it stands not, this attempt, does not "server the song", so am > dropping it, in lue of just the guitar alone and possibly with the > Alesis unit for added musicality. Nonetheless, I've seen amazing > performances, as I guess you all have with the layering that can be > done live. However, I did not see them combining digital resources, > other than the main unit they used (with many, many wires --whatever > it might have been) and their one instrument --an acoustic guitar. > > My needs, I believe are basic and simple. I'd be "happy" with even a > solid one beat per measure root note in Key, let alone a 1/4 note > backing beat to "fill out" the sound. (No complicated slapping and > popping syncopated rhythms will ever likely be attempted.) > > If that's clear, I hope, just a short --this is what you need, read > for youself, or a --you need the training for start-stop we've all > been through [...] that'll do. > > > > Thank you, in advance, (and to the member who ref'd me here from > another list... --good stuff here, indeed). > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016361e88c6e69f68046aadb5ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I'm not familiar with the various equipment that you have he= re, but the underlying truth (I say this in full expectation of immediately= finding someone who disagrees) is that manual sync only works for a very s= hort while before drift is evident, regardless of how good you are. If you = want to sync your bass lines with your drum machine, you need to use a loop= er that understands midi sync, and send midi from the drum machine to the l= ooper. that looper might be certain hardware loopers, or it might be sent t= o a software looper in a computer, but an RC-2 cannot sync to anything, or = send sync.

Warren

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:06 = AM, Craig Dallendorfer <dallendo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I read the Line 6 DL 4 Delay Modeler review. It was comprehensive.
However, since now having to return a few things purchased first,
thought to ask this.

I am looking to back a guitar with an Alesis Drum unit and a Bass
groove. The Bass groove is what would be looped --only.

What I am finding, recently with a Boss RC-2 and a loop feature on a
Logitech Digital Delay pedal is the ability to synchronize the pedal
with, for instance the Alesis unit, which graphically LCD's the tempo as well.

I checked the looping pedals against as well a KORG Metronome MA-30.
It demonstrated visually as well as audibly the tempo's were actually fluxuating and in a number of measures, were completely off.

I realize there is a talent to do this --to be sure. However, the Boss
RC-2 touted an auto start and correction feature. (It is possibly
working overtime here.) However, I did have the same issue with the
Digital Delay loop setting, but was better off.

I was considering the Line 6 DL 4 in an exchange for the Boss RC-2.
However, if I am making myself clear, I hope (?), am I wasting my time
in doing so.

I woun't leave out the Alesis as a "fault" here, however this= is the
first time this has showed itself as an issue. And, if I say so
myself, I have a great internal clock --otherwise, likely this would
not disturb me as much as it does.


As it stands not, this attempt, does not "server the song", so am=
dropping it, in lue of just the guitar alone and possibly with the
Alesis unit for added musicality. Nonetheless, I've seen amazing
performances, as I guess you all have with the layering that can =A0be
done live. However, I did not see them combining digital resources,
other than the main unit they used (with many, many wires --whatever
it might have been) and their one instrument --an acoustic guitar.

My needs, I believe are basic and simple. I'd be "happy" with= even a
solid one beat per measure root note in Key, let alone a 1/4 note
backing beat to "fill out" the sound. (No complicated slapping an= d
popping syncopated rhythms will ever likely be attempted.)

If that's clear, I hope, just a short --this is what you need, read
for youself, or a --you need the training for start-stop we've all
been through [...] that'll do.



Thank you, in advance, (and to the member who ref'd me here from
another list... --good =A0stuff here, indeed).




--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti= st.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http= ://www.warrensirota.com
--0016361e88c6e69f68046aadb5ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 20:48:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 730553BE87; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=a7znN5GM1jCNxmW+CZLMQ6Yz5680wsw6ce91pEalA8k=; b=Ckdzii+cv9jAGhdBhjFIvvziwYtfoim3GMNcWXwzJiCGxN34DhWTJW9vsmpfaho9Xb uO6jTw0+lIv5c96or30bfRpIba7VyR0q0/FUQE5mwA4BWZmoGb7VEq/I806qEZhMzZ3Q OIBX5dOGDMfxG7FdPnCOkzjVFUU5ozW6qhX8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=Sig3+7vJ/VE+r7BhLH78NR68P5bSF1Fo4w+1dWLFTG2ry4ra4F7Ola7s3Fi7yF3JHk JbfGmPxY4Hm4iXrY1Le3tcPPvib3JEuBhFm6JiC+PxAaAxNghAH5pKvpivP2gOKz0EFT C/PucasO8MPEdUCZr2UYn4IYnBarAEPOEospA= From: "Tony K" To: References: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:48:49 -0400 Message-ID: <008a01c9dcb1$0aff37b0$20fda710$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcncM87viZdEq0HFR9+u2cc4nddDVwAfE2Lg Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <5yRUw.A._K.2KbGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Anything by Neil Gaiman. American Gods was great. Terry Pratchett 'Discworld' series. Clive Barker, Steven Brust, Thomas Ligoti (for some really good creepy stuff.) Tony -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:52 AM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction that has been written in the last ten years. I used to read a lot and have loved Card, Varley, Pohl, Bear, Robinson, et. al. I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know who to go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at least 20 years ago. Thanks, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 21:16:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FDB63BE87; Sun, 24 May 2009 21:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NrR8KUZ91IoqfWyxFSv80JIh9a1guf+pdZGEJWjJVxw=; b=WLQVkMsaIIuPs5x68NqXMF9zXq1PKi5klOpxZdhGeLncn8lo/Pb3BKpAsxgODMksKs pN9Wn53RXxkn0lzJ0WhVQVgJlMdzNUTuzF8VxGO+3//EBlJq1/CGYFjU4TzVoVY6Wkh7 N4bubhC2MXeP3RfMR8Y2lE6gAVIt/Jd1pn90s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NQFh2Gm0FkLKGl+ewS0Lrtd5Pe/nIt8HVFnKZkiwdDlWJsRJTSGWgDplXKFBLSLFqo xywTsmGyh+mLkSAmSLh4fuCbSUhO57PvFMxelewnEoIp88zz7oWcEWG6pxOs34je3VpN xCr5sRoIv1Ek5WmME9U/vrWZxdBu+XUKRhmjE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:16:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: New "Rigs" videos featuring Thomas Dimuzio From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I just uploaded a series of 4 new "Rigs" videos, this time featuring Thomas Dimuzio and his unique sampler/feedback setup. Here's a list of all the "Rigs" videos so far. Thomas Dimuzio - Live sampling & feedback setup Discussion Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6SSlv-1Zew Discussion Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIToUjsl-vY Discussion Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf5ufuFTVeo Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU03wtYxaQY Tom Nunn - Inventions Sonoglyph discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO1N59Y4RUM Sonoglyph performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyGBhmZPtWc Crustacean discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYFLiE1DSQI Skatchbox discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrJisnhtSU Skatchbox performance (w/David Michalak): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aUVf3R2ds CJ Borosque - No-input noise pedals Discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtq04Nh0NJw Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfkHnE_aZdo Matt Davignon - Drum machine & processing Discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ELCrrMdphk Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7euFSrxHUtA Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 21:22:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34FEE3BE82; Sun, 24 May 2009 21:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cjStls6aILtU1N9ld3c95qL7aAV9ngmTaYcKIvZF68k=; b=D7YJwCOonRIXk84OVfbkn0mFteJQGf3JAIK2N3xilDP1ea2ywNyi4tejcC7+ERfxqj cWoG9DLOXCuFfAdVAyYS0rKEJhCffMqz2cl8G2RWR7183PqbqNBcmFX5lvzJol0sCJaf DEbUYRY8Tqhjs7d3fbHKwzXWu9Dewr1GBQ0KU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jRERpIZK0bjyMmPjH8xpJv07QMFkdMk8DV2lAQvLNI1AGFDvG1C59eDsP0ymb0aS9C 1dUXLFlsCa0viWr2eu5UtDFt5bUJs4we0zgUkAVrb5qmMmy6itHqMUOf5MTulPBMvjhQ Xh4ahimmuazhArOM2fpzFblwHEz04XM1CTRjE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905240210p61e3d083r511a7f199c3ceab@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905240210p61e3d083r511a7f199c3ceab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:22:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: help! need quick simple way to make laptop into looping/sampling machine From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:22:42 +0000 (UTC) For pure simplicity try Augustus Loop. It's not free but it's the closest thing to a analog tape looper that I've found for the Mac. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:50 PM, david molina > wrote: >> I have a Mac Book Pro Laptop. =A0I tried to install Mobius, and it didn'= t >> work. =A0I dont' know much about computers so maybe i'm doing something >> wrong.=A0A friend gave me a copy of Logic which has Main Stage. =A0I als= o heard >> about Super Looper. =A0 I am used to live looping and extreme sound >> manipulation of what i sample live on the spot. =A0what do you suggest? > > > The same. Both SL and Mobius has been sighted working for other folks > so if you just give it a second try there's a fair chance it will > work. These two loopers differs a little in functionality so you > better check out what they can do to see which one will serve your > needs best. There are dedicated mailing lists for both where you can > get help and they also offer written manuals online. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 21:28:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 479F53BE82; Sun, 24 May 2009 21:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zNgVlhsL16PERwOGHFMndr0w8J9fe93bliW/lwQD6QY=; b=B43snAOqOmKmNGJx0yBN4972/dTTshheoic6rFkws8fxzzQsg3nvYGlPZA8oZ9sFjn 0830ofnpC1N64Aa/q7fDPNXddlzPsufuzAzKHxBK5ZxbgVg6OCu+BeAtSHMvtsNAJ2Mk v5AaySyFZ0Eb2KSQ3ZN/H15OeZRYjlYMKUJQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tXHZHMqVraX81VcCH9lKS6Qyv0GSeJQCpZAip6Gx2mPyjG/pPFbNIkR8Wb7/a1E0Ut L51CQLZLkZmhaP4z3VIthvMbvwfxW1V5N4+Oj81vFvU3ZUYaqwQXmCpAHSr5lxtTeGf+ NeoCFvihvei1vZw4/yZe8IYdAeKPBIdFx6FHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9551E3FD-A470-408D-8070-9FDF4AFF84C8@zoekeating.com> References: <9551E3FD-A470-408D-8070-9FDF4AFF84C8@zoekeating.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:28:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: billboard magazine From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Look at you! You're here in the future! On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I'm in Billboard magazine today which feels very surreal. > > http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/magazine/features/e3ib5e9d934e920f549151cb861b4cfbc1c > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 21:51:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 204183BE84; Sun, 24 May 2009 21:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rQDc4q0i7PC7GqZvwVosoyUEi/PmoCemODJI4omN5F4=; b=ZuJoWRWjwxTvvTADJ07R4ToPuAuaoTThbQ1uCpmz967YCyT/iJe9mN5GP1qkvpOGWn bj6c3DVRt3VdPYM2vhWwNBZ5MMQE49NCNDSa5IPXcMr5yEaC/0PLXiYMTJ1fBfReQqjc qEoL7z0PX+aexztHYjezj+GJaodUifz/3i/1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lbgb21SPFVW5c5jVQJepEs4uvL/8t+mLAiBeTfrz0FrhfR6KrrX8rJxAbLzVzX6/+T rBdUtZnpGHr62Gh7YQkQQ47gBQCmx3C9Ua5ZGYBJVDdkvwTx4SK6L3DhHCMTYS26Xab0 Pjbd21cwam1P37+1smfsXW7xJOj+CqKDW4z6U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:51:18 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905241451u17ce1b7cr85dbb0ad5737f1e1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Jim Goodin "Sunday at 11" today... From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:51:20 +0000 (UTC) This is just to let y'all know that Jim Goodin rocked the house today in his "Sunday Morning at 11" video session: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11 I understand that Jim will entertain us in a bi-weekly rhythm from now on, so it's looping weekend from now on (with me on Saturday 1600 UTC every even calendar week) For those of you who missed today's session, here's the link: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1554014 Thanks Jim, for that great set of yours. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 22:05:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 187633BE8C; Sun, 24 May 2009 22:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vXJMLFsidSvXYGyvl3XV+HKXz8MrIEJuMrdrsCBJMag=; b=qMl5cbUprnAUX6zon/yccAUZ9PJZiGu9XgG4H/N4R+zx3HmezZdEeD8XG7CySrxUrP pkaeSF4OS/6Zq6q/hit0gmTDqvOHsFKIl//W410hvh5A1syzNJTe/Bg8jKz1dlVtPg8I +i6YYfm0EPOLqltpXDhOYiYiIqHO7+TkFj1ZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CKJjXScNUc76CfwLk5J/6GC12z2OAmk5L0Rbw4P7I8C2j2OdZ1n6+7GL8IRJm4aBII Ir5ciKOQxtViv+ZSdwr9B1NgCXqJurnGshvXZj+FSnv0wvRNZDrXqHAVhKc1bYej6a83 QlSUDHY4oSQJT1i1Sl0RVr9UJxAmzLsotkvZs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905241451u17ce1b7cr85dbb0ad5737f1e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905241451u17ce1b7cr85dbb0ad5737f1e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:05:30 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905241505q56e8c50bj655399f4f4f14758@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Jim Goodin "Sunday at 11" today... From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a87e254272046aafb114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:05:31 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a87e254272046aafb114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit golly Rainer that's awfully nice words sir. I felt I was fighting off a bit of tequila overhang from dinner last night so I wasn't sure but it was fun as always and I really appreciate you, Jeff, Steve, Daryl and others who were there. I gotta tell you as I do the rest of the list that this virtual stage is a real gift to me as it's allowing the chance to perform for folks in places I may never get to so digging it. Also 'rocking' the house with his pyrotechnical cello today was Steve Moyes who did a really great set. Steve's uStream url is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain. best to all and thankx again for the nice words Rainer Jim On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > This is just to let y'all know that Jim Goodin rocked the house today > in his "Sunday Morning at 11" video session: > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11 > > I understand that Jim will entertain us in a bi-weekly rhythm from now > on, so it's looping weekend from now on (with me on Saturday 1600 UTC > every even calendar week) > > For those of you who missed today's session, here's the link: > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1554014 > > Thanks Jim, for that great set of yours. > > Rainer > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a87e254272046aafb114 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable golly Rainer that's awfully nice words sir. =A0I felt I was fighting of= f a bit of tequila overhang from dinner last night so I wasn't sure but= it was fun as always and I really appreciate you, Jeff, Steve, Daryl and o= thers who were there. =A0I gotta tell you as I do the rest of the list that= this virtual stage is a real gift to me as it's allowing the chance to= perform for folks in places I may never get to so digging it.

Also 'rocking' the house with his pyrotechnical cell= o today was Steve Moyes who did a really great set. =A0Steve's uStream = url is=A0http://www.= ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain.
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best to all and thankx again for the nice words Rainer
=
Jim

On Sun, May 2= 4, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:=
This is just to let y'all know that Jim= Goodin rocked the house today
in his "Sunday Morning at 11" video session:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11

I understand that Jim will entertain us in a bi-weekly rhythm from now
on, so it's looping weekend from now on (with me on Saturday 1600 UTC every even calendar week)

For those of you who missed today's session, here's the link:
http:/= /www.ustream.tv/recorded/1554014

Thanks Jim, for that great set of yours.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer




--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5a87e254272046aafb114-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 23:03:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CB913BE84; Sun, 24 May 2009 23:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006001c9dcc3$d90337d0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <7334ca1b0905241451u17ce1b7cr85dbb0ad5737f1e1@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60905241505q56e8c50bj655399f4f4f14758@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Jim Goodin "Sunday at 11" today... Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:03:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <3P74CB.A.f8D.zIdGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:03:15 +0000 (UTC) I must agree with Rainer that Jim did indeed rock our houses with his lovely, natural and sincere loop-assisted playing. Jim, you made it worthwhile coming in out of the glorious sunshine we had here in England today. Thanks again to Jim, Rainer, Jeff and anyone else who looked in on my broadcast today. Your kind words and encouragement were very much appreciated. It wasn't entirely without technical hitches, but it worked pretty well and I really enjoyed doing it. It's wonderful to be able to perform to audiences all over the world at one time. It's also amazing to me that despite the distance and technological barriers the music doesn't lose any of communicative power or emotional impact. I'll be loking forward to future webgigs from Rainer, Jim and Matt nd anyone else brave enough to take the plunge. I'll be doing some more myself too, hopefully planning them further in advance in future. Best wishes to you all and have a good week. Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: Re: Jim Goodin "Sunday at 11" today... golly Rainer that's awfully nice words sir. I felt I was fighting off a bit of tequila overhang from dinner last night so I wasn't sure but it was fun as always and I really appreciate you, Jeff, Steve, Daryl and others who were there. I gotta tell you as I do the rest of the list that this virtual stage is a real gift to me as it's allowing the chance to perform for folks in places I may never get to so digging it. Also 'rocking' the house with his pyrotechnical cello today was Steve Moyes who did a really great set. Steve's uStream url is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain. best to all and thankx again for the nice words Rainer Jim On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: This is just to let y'all know that Jim Goodin rocked the house today in his "Sunday Morning at 11" video session: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Sunday-Morning-at-11 I understand that Jim will entertain us in a bi-weekly rhythm from now on, so it's looping weekend from now on (with me on Saturday 1600 UTC every even calendar week) For those of you who missed today's session, here's the link: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1554014 Thanks Jim, for that great set of yours. Rainer -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 24 23:54:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89FA43BE87; Sun, 24 May 2009 23:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A19DE24.7040705@dehnhard.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:54:12 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: GET TIME TRAVELLERS WIFE NOW!!! References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/cMndHDuTbUD2WFa1oGJyaBI+WOx1ZxSbj4py L+OsECIVLKxVZcDbQNHYCFi+LAm8Ho2tJI9v4DS5RUBfmJIIgn 9Yi/d2s/znVAnlCAEzFG1JbEdoZigIs Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:54:17 +0000 (UTC) warren is right about THE TIME TRAVELLERS WIFE. it's just beautiful! warren may be right about cryptonomicon, but concerning diamond age i still am of the opinion that stephenson has managed to do gain position of "jules verne of our time". tilmann Warren Sirota schrieb: > im(extremely minority)o, Stephenson can't write characters to save his > life and i find his books deadly boring (ok, let me be specific and > indulge my passion for exaggeration a little less: 250 slow pages into > Cryptonomicon or whatever he called it, i realized that every single > person in the book was the identical blend of system analyst and amateur > sleuth/reflexive information hider that i have to work with in corporate > life every day, just with different circumstances. i couldn't find a > spec of character in any of them, and i couldn't go on reading). > > and, sorry to those who've seen this recommendation before, but the best > SF book, or any book, that i've read in the past 5 years was "The Time > Traveler's Wife" > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Christophe > wrote: > > You can skip, "Zodiac", though. It was his first and most > definitely not in the same league as his later books. > > And don't forget William Gibson! Try "Idoru". > > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark francombe" > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:14:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science > fiction written in the last 10 years? > > DEFINATELY the Diamond Age, or from the same author Snow Crash. > > What Neil Stevendon does is present you with a world for a bit ( > Nano technology works, in Diamond Age, or Everyone has a second > virtual life in Snow Crash) and then gives you a run of the mill > exiting rollacoaster of a novel, based on those presumptions.. LOVE > HIM... < br> > I just read Anathem, his latest, also genius, but a bit long and > heavy for a "trip book".. > > Of the 3 .. Diamond Age, lots of cool stuff.. changed the way I > think about e-learning (my day-job) as a matter of fact... > > enjoy > > M > > PS: > but surely.. all planes have SO MUCH inflight fun... catch up on all > them films you missed... play Super Mario... Or my favorite... (but > expensive) use the seat-back phone to call a random seat for a chat!!! > > > > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 00:06:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73E253BE84; Mon, 25 May 2009 00:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A19E0FB.9050504@dehnhard.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:06:19 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New to list, looping --read archives --still have question References: <4e05ffe20905240806w5abc0621gf117768a942029bc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4e05ffe20905240806w5abc0621gf117768a942029bc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19pziGKawprZOo+LAhXreMx6hdGD4ZBsHi5u3V 7YYMQPyIqDpNS/LJCIfK+TWHQzw8f70qKJ1QGG0udo+hopkiNJ dkUnGxRTYN7PLOCTpqieqgkvA/ZrMUf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:06:24 +0000 (UTC) te dl4 may give you only a pretty short loop time. was it 16 sec? Craig Dallendorfer schrieb: > Hello, > > I read the Line 6 DL 4 Delay Modeler review. It was comprehensive. > However, since now having to return a few things purchased first, > thought to ask this. > > I am looking to back a guitar with an Alesis Drum unit and a Bass > groove. The Bass groove is what would be looped --only. > > What I am finding, recently with a Boss RC-2 and a loop feature on a > Logitech Digital Delay pedal is the ability to synchronize the pedal > with, for instance the Alesis unit, which graphically LCD's the tempo > as well. > > I checked the looping pedals against as well a KORG Metronome MA-30. > It demonstrated visually as well as audibly the tempo's were actually > fluxuating and in a number of measures, were completely off. > > I realize there is a talent to do this --to be sure. However, the Boss > RC-2 touted an auto start and correction feature. (It is possibly > working overtime here.) However, I did have the same issue with the > Digital Delay loop setting, but was better off. > > I was considering the Line 6 DL 4 in an exchange for the Boss RC-2. > However, if I am making myself clear, I hope (?), am I wasting my time > in doing so. > > I woun't leave out the Alesis as a "fault" here, however this is the > first time this has showed itself as an issue. And, if I say so > myself, I have a great internal clock --otherwise, likely this would > not disturb me as much as it does. > > > As it stands not, this attempt, does not "server the song", so am > dropping it, in lue of just the guitar alone and possibly with the > Alesis unit for added musicality. Nonetheless, I've seen amazing > performances, as I guess you all have with the layering that can be > done live. However, I did not see them combining digital resources, > other than the main unit they used (with many, many wires --whatever > it might have been) and their one instrument --an acoustic guitar. > > My needs, I believe are basic and simple. I'd be "happy" with even a > solid one beat per measure root note in Key, let alone a 1/4 note > backing beat to "fill out" the sound. (No complicated slapping and > popping syncopated rhythms will ever likely be attempted.) > > If that's clear, I hope, just a short --this is what you need, read > for youself, or a --you need the training for start-stop we've all > been through [...] that'll do. > > > > Thank you, in advance, (and to the member who ref'd me here from > another list... --good stuff here, indeed). > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 00:06:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6B8D3BE84; Mon, 25 May 2009 00:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <62F48359-8E72-44BB-83E8-8A5FA8328740@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905241151i65bc7e76i51a9f21b65a6f3cf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:06:43 -0700 References: <9ab0c76f0905240314t70ec572dk72a54e6ee90470b3@mail.gmail.com> <1618057185.13826681243169632851.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <101191640905240632x77d5bc04o7718120b265a413c@mail.gmail.com> <9E8CCB89-424A-43AB-BC64-39EA985A2B6F@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0905241151i65bc7e76i51a9f21b65a6f3cf@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:06:43 +0000 (UTC) On May 24, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Mark Hamburg > wrote: >> Smilla's Sense of Snow has some SF-ish aspects though it's >> basically more of >> a thriller. > > Yeah, that's a good one that know Rick will like! And it was in fact > written less than ten years back as opposed to many other suggestions > that have passed this thread ;-) 1992. So it still doesn't meet Rick's criterion though it's closer than some. And it is highly recommended. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 00:27:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41BE23BE87; Mon, 25 May 2009 00:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lacac/Ni+Rh09lPcL9/OoqN/82pDle4jimvgCVfgREQ=; b=DjycaG1S4vvU1OCQBXbSyVFuEFN1oxfiNjsZtIu+jgx7TBjjk+77dY89wqOZ/hZiOR GOkhKdD1mq8O7AZ9H1aOgWVdpZDcEdGHdeJkNQovR/FIJdyAQ8bpy+rQkioLUFamU1VG 1zb0hbShUKngkFD7aBmr60ucN8l7B/IkgKnSs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QK3BEi2PYp3+Ck9YsPZfcnzQoyoB3hPXm7QaP++zpTjG/yeMbAhDRmx1A7D5iZ5CTD MfbE4IpWHrEkPbrhyHDI2JRrXhax0MYec47/PehunlLUWF1AhYefOS6Tr/0ZQRnykl6i /5bCFV3YH1OMRsTgYOkc/iIzuox8jG7h9XC6M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:27:47 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905241727y6f3f5f69h588df9b1d6f66448@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b54f01ec51046ab1ae36 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:27:51 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b54f01ec51046ab1ae36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris this is really great! listening now and really digging the dark percussion/piano/sax and voice stuff. How often are you going to produce this? Jim On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Krispen Hartung w= rote: > Playing now.... > > *FreeWave* > http://radioboise.org/ (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard > Time - MST) > Click "LISTEN HERE" > > If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at > http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ > > *"FreeWave* features music within the free improvisation, > electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the compl= ex > and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the extraterrestrial sound= s > of Sun Ra, *FreeWave* is all this and more, into the obscure and beyond > with the new millennium=92s creative electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWa= ve > will push your listening boundaries into new and challenging territories = of > creative music. Not for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and > predictable, FreeWave will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably." > > *Play List > > *Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in the Machine, and Martin Klapper > Song: Magnitude > Album: New Excursions(recorded live at the Copenhagen Internation= al Experimental Festival) > > Artist(s): Muhal Richard Abrams, George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell > Song: Soundhear > Album: Streaming > > Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, Phil Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser > Song: Ink > Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood > > Artist(s): John Coltrane > Song: Mars > Album: Interstellar Space > > Artist(s): Dempa (Pianist Aki Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander > Kolkowski (England) and drummer Tony Buck (Australia) > Song: Where Europe Begins.... > Album: Nine Fragments > > Artist(s): Derek Bailey and Agusti Fernandez > Song: Casa Leopoldo > Album: Barcelona > > Artist(s): Cecil Taylor > Song: Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure) > Album: Unit Structures > > Artist(s): Emily Hay and Motoko Honda > Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday > Album: n/a > > Cheers, > > Kris > > Kris Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com > http://b-cimf.com > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festiva= l/37918746335 > http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival > info@krispenhartung.com > 1-208-724-5603 > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b54f01ec51046ab1ae36 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris this is really great! =A0listening now and really digging the dark per= cussion/piano/sax and voice stuff. =A0How often are you going to produce th= is?

Jim

On Sat, May 23= , 2009 at 3:04 PM, Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
Playing now....
=A0
FreeWave
http://radioboise= .org/=A0=20 (Saturday, May=A023 from 1-3pm Mountain Standard Time - MST)
Click "LISTEN HERE"
=A0
If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at http://rad= io-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/
=A0
"FreeWave features music within the free improvi= sation,=20 electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the complex= and=20 frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the extraterrestrial sounds of S= un=20 Ra, FreeWave is all this and more, into the obscure and be= yond=20 with the new millennium=92s creative electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave= will=20 push your listening boundaries into new and challenging territories of crea= tive=20 music. Not for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable,=20 FreeWave will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably."
=A0
Play List

Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in the= =20 Machine, and Martin Klapper
Song: Magnitude
Album: New Excursions (recor= ded live at the Copenhagen=20 International Experimental Festival)

Artist(s): Muhal Richard Abrams= ,=20 George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell
Song: Soundhear
Album: Streaming

Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, Phil Minton,=20 Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser
Song: Ink
Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood=

Artist(s): John=20 Coltrane
Song: Mars
Album: Interstellar Space

Artist(s): Dempa (Pianist Aki=20 Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander Kolkowski (England) and drummer Tony B= uck=20 (Australia)
Song: Where Europe Begins....
Album: Nine Fragments

Artist(s): Derek Bailey a= nd=20 Agusti Fernandez
Song: Casa Leopoldo
Album: Barcelona

Artist(s): Cecil Taylor
Song:=20 Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure)
Album: Unit Structures

Artist(s): Emily Hay and Motoko= =20 Honda
Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday
Album: n/= a=20
=A0
Cheers,
=A0
Kris
=A0



--
ReUse, an introspective= textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5b54f01ec51046ab1ae36-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 00:40:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E0903BE87; Mon, 25 May 2009 00:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d4dUoBkn5xubnB8AjnU6UkfWQV9FXEr8DcZkjrCinyg=; b=p4/ddYmpG0KWYjsZBqQIbxODDbFTfXogz4QuoZ/kpIGEYzJtL9QXisZXGnVnlTVVda EjkTCDHImJa1+rwMxhR0wEAyoREP12vKieHRTz5fIyQXp6AM/JuE5x+qMCAnuqHfrtso Nl8pqrjJJYFEy410RmGcN+axQD4G2iSlueweg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Hqe0vTzJyU2Z+oTuZemLCfqzQj3CwdxBPoVosG58QOQ793bOk8UjP6gCjzDG0+/aSx pyMp3cXJt/CLATCLfxz7l1vp7QlXW7+VSmV8KEjpLjUGbHcBW7QJiUE9jW5JIS0ShuHa VfcXfMUylp4FY3vH/4PDzCIJnPpXNvcAvZvas= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <006001c9dcc3$d90337d0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <7334ca1b0905241451u17ce1b7cr85dbb0ad5737f1e1@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60905241505q56e8c50bj655399f4f4f14758@mail.gmail.com> <006001c9dcc3$d90337d0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:40:14 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905241740g2062eaeei4c1fba5a09c2cc0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Jim Goodin "Sunday at 11" today... From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ac7a87a1c1046ab1da78 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:40:15 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ac7a87a1c1046ab1da78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve thanks for the kind words - your set was really neat as well and particularly that second piece when you were using those small bells looped over the cello loops. Really excellent inauguaral set - that last piece too the encore very moving. Look fwd to your next round as I do Rainer's, Matt's, Mark's and other's still to come... On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Steve Moyes wrote: > > --001636c5ac7a87a1c1046ab1da78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve thanks for the kind words - your set was really neat as well and part= icularly that second piece when you were using those small bells looped ove= r the cello loops. Really excellent inauguaral set - that last piece too th= e encore very moving. =A0Look fwd to your next round as I do Rainer's, = Matt's, Mark's and other's still to come...

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Steve Moyes= <ste= phenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

--001636c5ac7a87a1c1046ab1da78-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 01:04:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41E963BE89; Mon, 25 May 2009 01:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a7cc0c38-1808-4ffa-90c7-62c6afde4626_" X-Originating-IP: [76.14.66.94] From: samba - To: Subject: Totally Off ...SciFi Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:04:54 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090524132713.4F5633BE90@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090524132713.4F5633BE90@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2009 01:04:54.0253 (UTC) FILETIME=[D04B19D0:01C9DCD4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 01:04:55 +0000 (UTC) --_a7cc0c38-1808-4ffa-90c7-62c6afde4626_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Somtow Satchiurtcul=2Calso published as Si Somtow=2Ca Thai scifi write= r=2Cvery original.Phillip Pullman's Golden Compass books.Bruce Sterling=2CI= like Holy Fire alot=2Cbut it's a little bit over 10 years old A.A. Attanasio' Last Legends of Earth is incredible the best world's wi= thin worlds/meta universe story I've read=2Cway way beyond Foundation Trilo= gy=2C Ringworld etc. --_a7cc0c38-1808-4ffa-90c7-62c6afde4626_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B =3B =3B Somtow Satchiurtcul=2Calso published as Si= Somtow=2Ca Thai scifi writer=2Cvery original.Phillip Pullman's Golden Comp= ass books.Bruce Sterling=2CI like Holy Fire alot=2Cbut it's a little = =3B bit over 10 years old
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<= /body> = --_a7cc0c38-1808-4ffa-90c7-62c6afde4626_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 02:36:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 227053BE88; Mon, 25 May 2009 02:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1A043D.3060305@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:36:45 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , RICK WALKER , Y2K8 LOOPFEST email saves Subject: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST of RECOMMENDED NEW & NEWISH SCIENCE FICTION Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 02:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, everyone,   
Here is a hastily collated list for future reference
of all the recommendations everyone sent in (I love this list!)
Forgive me if I missed something and thanks for your help.
Rick Walker

LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST of RECOMMENDED NEW & NEWISH SCIENCE FICTION

Margaret Atwood        Oryx And Crake
Iain Banks                      Consider Phlebas
Stephen Baxter           Manifold: Space
                                              Manifold: Time
Stephen Baxter      Timelike Infinity 
Gregory Benford                  Galactic Center (series)
David Brin                           Startide Rising
                                                 Earth
Orson Scott Card           Enders Game (series)
Jay Caselberg                  Wyrmhole    
Jack Chalker               Midnight in the Well of Souls    
Douglas Coupland         Girlfriend In A Coma 
Thomas M Disch             The Genocides    (old school dystopian)
Greg Egan              Diaspora  
William Gibson                    Pattern Recognition
                                                     Idoru   
Cormac McCarthy              The Road 
Ian McDonald                  River of Gods
Jack McDevitt               Seeker 
Audrey Niffenegger         The Time Travellers Wife 
Jeff Noon                               Pixel Juice   
                                                    Needle In The Groove      
Frederik Pohl                  Gateway (Heechee series)
Philip Pullman              The Golden Compass  (fantasy)  
Kim Stanley Robinson  The Planet on the Table
                                                     Red Mars (the trilogy)
 Neil Stephenson              Diamond Age
                                                     Snow Crash 
George Saunders             Civilwarland In Bad Decline
Clifford Simac               Way Station       
Dan Simmons                     Hyperion   (series)  
Ian Stewart/Jack Cross    Wheelers
Charles Stross               Singularity Sky      
                                                     Accelerando
                                                     Glass House
Michael Swanwick            Stations of the Tide 
John Varley                          Millenium  (Novella)
                                                     Persistence of Vision (short stories)
Vernor Vinge               Fire Upon the Deep  
Robert Charles Wilson    Spin
David Zindell                    Neverness

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 03:18:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B1683BE85; Mon, 25 May 2009 03:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.121.155] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <9e0440a60905241727y6f3f5f69h588df9b1d6f66448@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:18:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0345_01C9DCB5.241C5E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2009 03:18:15.0372 (UTC) FILETIME=[7154F8C0:01C9DCE7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 03:18:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0345_01C9DCB5.241C5E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Every other Saturday. So my next show will be in 13 days. I'm glad you = enjoyed it! Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 Kris this is really great! listening now and really digging the dark = percussion/piano/sax and voice stuff. How often are you going to = produce this? Jim On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Krispen Hartung = wrote: Playing now.... FreeWave http://radioboise.org/ (Saturday, May 23 from 1-3pm Mountain = Standard Time - MST) Click "LISTEN HERE" If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at = http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ "FreeWave features music within the free improvisation, = electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music genres. From the = complex and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the = extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, FreeWave is all this and more, into = the obscure and beyond with the new millennium=92s creative = electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push your listening = boundaries into new and challenging territories of creative music. Not = for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWave = will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably." Play List Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in the Machine, and Martin Klapper Song: Magnitude Album: New Excursions (recorded live at the Copenhagen International = Experimental Festival) Artist(s): Muhal Richard Abrams, George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell Song: Soundhear Album: Streaming Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, Phil Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser Song: Ink Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood Artist(s): John Coltrane Song: Mars Album: Interstellar Space Artist(s): Dempa (Pianist Aki Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander = Kolkowski (England) and drummer Tony Buck (Australia)=20 Song: Where Europe Begins.... Album: Nine Fragments Artist(s): Derek Bailey and Agusti Fernandez Song: Casa Leopoldo Album: Barcelona Artist(s): Cecil Taylor Song: Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure) Album: Unit Structures Artist(s): Emily Hay and Motoko Honda Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday Album: n/a=20 Cheers, Kris Kris Hartung www.krispenhartung.com http://b-cimf.com = http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festiva= l/37918746335 http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival info@krispenhartung.com 1-208-724-5603 --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0345_01C9DCB5.241C5E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Every other Saturday. So my next show = will be in 13=20 days. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
 
Kris
----- Original Message -----

 Kris=20 this is really great!  listening now and really digging the dark=20 percussion/piano/sax and voice stuff.  How often are you going to = produce=20 this?

Jim

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Krispen = Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>=20 wrote:
Playing now....
 
FreeWave
http://radioboise.org/  (Saturday, = May 23 from=20 1-3pm Mountain Standard Time - MST)
Click "LISTEN HERE"
 
If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at = http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/
 
"FreeWave features music within the free=20 improvisation, electro-acoustic, experimental, and creative music = genres.=20 From the complex and frenzied sax expressions of Evan Parker to the=20 extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, FreeWave is all = this and=20 more, into the obscure and beyond with the new millennium=92s = creative=20 electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push your listening = boundaries=20 into new and challenging territories of creative music. Not for the = faint of=20 heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWave will alter = your=20 musical perspectives irrevocably."
 
Play List

Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost = in the=20 Machine, and Martin Klapper
Song: Magnitude
Album: New Excursions = (recorded live=20 at the Copenhagen International Experimental = Festival)

Artist(s):=20 Muhal Richard Abrams, George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell
Song:=20 Soundhear
Album: Streaming

Artist(s): Bob=20 Ostertag, Phil Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser
Song: = Ink
Album:=20 Verbatim, Flesh and=20 Blood

Artist(s): John Coltrane
Song: = Mars
Album: Interstellar=20 Space

Artist(s): Dempa (Pianist Aki Takase = (Japan),=20 violinist Aleksander Kolkowski (England) and drummer Tony Buck = (Australia)=20
Song: Where Europe Begins....
Album: Nine=20 Fragments

Artist(s): Derek Bailey and Agusti=20 Fernandez
Song: Casa Leopoldo
Album: Barcelona

Artist(s): Cecil = Taylor
Song:=20 Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure)
Album: Unit=20 Structures

Artist(s): Emily Hay and Motoko = Honda
Song:=20 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday
Album: n/a
 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
http://b-cimf.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvis= ed-Music-Festival/37918746335
http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival=
info@krispenhartung.com
1-208-724-5603
=


--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey = coming=20 soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm= usic
www.myspace.com/chinap= aintingmusic
www.myspace.com/ji= mgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm= usic

video=20 work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

social=20 networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinm= usic

------=_NextPart_000_0345_01C9DCB5.241C5E40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 03:54:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 842863BE90; Mon, 25 May 2009 03:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtQEAFutGUpMRByW/2dsb2JhbACDKDoUiwW9bAiCQIFDBQ X-Vipre-Scanned: 0026363A00142100263787-TDI Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: 05.27.09 > The PiNG presents RADiO iN AMBiENCE featuring Kristen Roos w/ Anna Friz + Nilan Perera Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:54:20 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000901c9dcec$7c279050$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 03:54:26 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . WEDNESDAY MAY 27TH . THE PiNG presents RADiO iN AMBiENCE a special presentation for Deep Wireless in collaboration with New Adventures in Sound Art featuring Kristen Roos with Anna Friz + Nilan Perera @ THE NAISA SPACE . Artscape Wychwood Barns 601 Christie Street . (2 blocks south of St. Clair W.) Studio #252 (Look for a sign outside the W side of the bldg) PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set is at 8:30 . $6 . Kristen Roos is an artist whose approach to creating sound art usually involves a translation, or change, from one state to another. Objects normally used to bring information in a particular way are repurposed, and reconstructed into new vibrating forms. These temporary structures hope to inspire infinite interpretations for the objects and spaces that make up the world around us. Ferry Crossing Interpreted & Vinegar Factory One by Kristen Roos and Anna Friz. This performance will consist of two fifteen-minute pieces. The first is based on a score that Kristen created from a collage of field recordings gathered on Vancouver Island, Cortes Island and the ferry between Cortes Island and Quadra Island. Together they will recreate this Ferry Crossing using a theremin, radios, and various amplified objects. The second piece originates from a performance at the Vinegar Factory in Vancouver, for bowed fire bells, amplified wire brush, tape recorder, theremin, harmonica, kazoo, and radios. . Nilan Perera is a sonic explorer and improviser whose work expands the language and techniques of experimental electric guitar performance. In his unusual approach to the guitar, Perera utilizes preparations of assorted paraphernalia such as swizzle sticks, paper clips, metal brushes and the like, as well as feedback and a variety of electronic effects. . Between Sets CD - "erebus & terror" by David Bickley & Tom Green NAISA founder Darren Copeland created a soundtrack for the radio drama "Erebus & Terror" by Gwendolyn MacEwen. This is an alternate, more ambient impression of the ill-fated Franklin naval expedition of 1845 as a "dark, brooding atmospheric album painting". More info: http://www.shopsonic.com/product_details.php?id=3D590 More info on Darren Copeland's year 2000 version: http://www.darrencopeland.net/PN_Terror_Erebus%20.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG iN JUNE . 06.23.09 . The PiNG presents THE DEVIL IN THE DESIGN + More TBA Tuesday June 23rd @ The Central 603 Markham Street . 8PM . more details soon @ http://www.theambientping.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . check out the latest free net label release from ping things: "iNTHiSHOUSE" by subduction current ping things is thrilled to present an exclusive new offering from Catherine Tammaro performing under her guise as subduction current. Well known in the Toronto ambient improv scene for her live performances which blend music and electronic light media, Catherine's latest "iNTHiSHOUSE" is a sensual and beautiful journey through fluid spaces and liquid sounds that perfectly capture the musical and artistic ideals that inform her work. Drawing influence from deep beneath the sea and deep within the self, "iNTHiSHOUSE" is a carefully crafted series of songs that immerses the listener in a new environment, a new reality. "iNTHiSHOUSE" by subduction current is available as a free downloadable 67Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Catherine Tammaro 2009, and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Also check out the AMBiENT PiNG RADiO podcast. Currently posted are the ALMOST LiVE SERiES sets by Numina, MWVM, NAW, Panoramaroid, Remora, Resonant Drift, Salvagesound, and URM. Also posted are the ping things net label releases by Spatial Correlation (Les Landes), Phil Ogison (The Perfect City) Andrew Duke (Aqua), Nunc Stans (Land), Ortiz (Where did we come from defcon?), mara's torment (tactile), Building Castles Out of Matchsticks (October Sky), Remora (Ensoulment), Panoramaroid (Music for Travellers #2), mara's torment (fluctuations), Spatial Correlation (Love and the Fear of Poverty) and Reinholt56 (Mechanism of the Soul). http://www.ambientpingradio.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ALSO THiS WEEK: NEW ADVENTURES IN SOUND ART presents the DEEP WIRELESS festival of Radio & Transmission Art 8th Anniversary - May 1 - 31, 2009 A month-long celebration of radio and transmission art including performances, installations, broadcasts, workshops, a Youth Radio residency and the Radio Without Boundaries conference (May 28-30). Performance dates are May 3, 7, 8, 10, 22-24, 26-30 and installations are running throughout the month. Featured artists include Beno=EEt Maubrey, Marie-Jos=E9e Chartier, Brandon Labelle, Gregory Whitehead, Jessica Thompson, Lisa Pijuan-Nomura, Kristen Roos, Fran=E7ois Girouard, Chris Brookes, Hank Bull, Alessandro Bosetti, Marilyn Lerner, Andrea Dancer, Tetsuo Kogawa, Nilan Perera, dreamSTATE and many more. Deep Wireless/CBC Radios Outfront commissioned artists for 2009 include H=E9l=E8ne Prevost, Paolo Pietropaolo, Iain Reid and Andra McCartney. More details about Deep Wireless at the New Adventures in Sound Art website: http://www.naisa.ca/deepwireless . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 09:45:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3106F3BE85; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1243244706; l=1606; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=UZC7B7EH3GoP5JvwQgClmbbILxs=; b=dVRchpoBA4+Fy11eFW1b8YAM94CzjP2ffoBt4ikS31nN6mZMSJM6+R1KEABZOijH39J AxCa9IgDa1TTcY3yZTZsD1aUKNoHTfU/OD4bdS9ztAwOAC6PXnPxvBd6AcAbVfPGk/eBq mZFobeSscaEfbB1c8Zn6IaFaV1/RXNYGd14= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWLBOrxXsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <01d001c9dd1d$e6b15060$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: Subject: Re: New "Rigs" videos featuring Thomas Dimuzio Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:19:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <3jC0RB.A.66E.kimGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Re. Thomas Dimuzio´s performance video: It is noise! Is it art ? Christo Jota www.christojota.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: New "Rigs" videos featuring Thomas Dimuzio > Hi all, > > I just uploaded a series of 4 new "Rigs" videos, this time featuring > Thomas Dimuzio and his unique sampler/feedback setup. Here's a list of > all the "Rigs" videos so far. > > Thomas Dimuzio - Live sampling & feedback setup > Discussion Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6SSlv-1Zew > Discussion Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIToUjsl-vY > Discussion Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf5ufuFTVeo > Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU03wtYxaQY > > Tom Nunn - Inventions > Sonoglyph discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO1N59Y4RUM > Sonoglyph performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyGBhmZPtWc > Crustacean discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYFLiE1DSQI > Skatchbox discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrJisnhtSU > Skatchbox performance (w/David Michalak): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aUVf3R2ds > > CJ Borosque - No-input noise pedals > Discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtq04Nh0NJw > Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfkHnE_aZdo > > Matt Davignon - Drum machine & processing > Discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ELCrrMdphk > Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7euFSrxHUtA > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 13:23:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA8F53BE82; Mon, 25 May 2009 13:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DFnSpnoqlA4Gyc1j+2k7D7pIhCc+NnO1mQUHXL7ku7I=; b=ivESw79QpgIldzbCV2lpu1ZdcJSa+aS2SB0nkBLqu/vE3bW+4xs6A3gKlVo6+xQK0V skXk9FC6rOxu2ci+6oiUqoH5e4ZqPmf5XLDiqmgfo1wF95kYW8FYMyUWCj4VlUF6FWrS lov1FIkv/FHHs/c/yoUmETpbEmFRHA100lu3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sCt/pc8n3nzJO2Pg9xLehp67Y3OoVMiim/yaqppUVAMDZRDw37u2cc7BqQH7t/gBuL vJaBxsuAehPBc9RIi2CH6M09UXOP54m7VJSLF2mdHFe4K1QCmE2P3gS6MpEobZfLi1Tc a/jiDPJAKvHSNEwmCm9b2JNP7q5ozMeb0PjLI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A1A043D.3060305@cruzio.com> References: <4A1A043D.3060305@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:23:19 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f6588008e0ed731e Message-ID: <101191640905250623l3fb014d7u3ee831fdd4eb3615@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST of RECOMMENDED NEW & NEWISH SCIENCE FICTION From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636164ad179d7fa046abc8367 Resent-Message-ID: <-W4cjB.A.vKC.HvpGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 13:23:19 +0000 (UTC) --001636164ad179d7fa046abc8367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for compiling this - I think I have my next 3 years of fiction planned now. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Thanks, everyone, > Here is a hastily collated list for future reference > of all the recommendations everyone sent in (I love this list!) > Forgive me if I missed something and thanks for your help. > Rick Walker > > *LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST of RECOMMENDED NEW & NEWISH SCIENCE FICTION > * > *Margaret Atwood * Oryx And Crake * > Iain Banks* Consider Phlebas * > Stephen Baxter* Manifold: Space ** > Manifold: Time > > *Stephen Baxter* Timelike Infinity *Gregory Benford * = Galactic Center (series)*David Brin * Startide R= ising > Earth*Orson Scott Card = * Enders Game (series)*Jay Caselberg * Wyrmhole = ***Jack Chalker* Midnight in the Well of Souls *Douglas Co= upland * Girlfriend In A Coma *Thomas M Disch * The Genoc= ides (old school dystopian)*Greg Egan* Diaspora *William G= ibson* Pattern Recognition > Idoru ** *Cormac Mc= Carthy * The Road *Ian McDonald * River of Gods= *Jack McDevitt* Seeker *Audrey Niffenegger* The Time = Travellers Wife *Jeff Noon* Pixel Juice > Needle In The Groove = *Frederik Pohl *Gateway (Heechee series)***Philip Pul= lman* The Golden Compass (fantasy) ***Kim Stanley Robinson* = The Planet on the Table > Red Mars (the trilog= y) > *Neil Stephenson* Diamond Age > Snow Crash *George S= aunders * Civilwarland In Bad Decline*Clifford Simac* = Way Station *Dan Simmons * Hyperion (series)= *Ian Stewart/Jack Cross * Wheelers***Charles Stross* Sing= ularity Sky ** > Accelerando > Glass House*Michael = Swanwick * Stations of the Tide *John Varley * = Millenium (Novella) > Persistence of Visio= n (short stories)*Vernor Vinge* Fire Upon the Deep *****Robe= rt Charles Wilson * Spin*David Zindell * Neverness > > > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --001636164ad179d7fa046abc8367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for compiling this - I think I have my next 3 years of fiction plann= ed now.

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM,= Rick Walker <l= ooppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Thanks, everyone,=A0=A0=A0
Here is a hastily collated list for future reference
of all the recommendations everyone sent in (I love this list!)
Forgive me if I missed something and thanks for your help.
Rick Walker

LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST of RECOMMENDED NEW & NEWISH SCIENCE FICTION

Margaret Atwood=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 Oryx And Crake
Iain Banks=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Consider Phlebas
Stephen Baxter=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Manifold: Space
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Manifold: Time= 
Stephen Baxter      Timelike Infinity=20
Gregory Benford              =
    Galactic Center (series)
David Brin                     =
      Startide Rising
                                                 Earth
Orson Scott Card           Enders Game (series)
Jay Caselberg     =
             Wyrmhole    
Jack Chalker               Midnight in th=
e Well of Souls   =20
Douglas Coupland =A0 =A0=A0  =
  Girlfriend In A Coma 
Thomas M Disch=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0    The Genocides=A0=A0=A0 (old school dystopian)
Greg Egan              Diaspora =20
William Gibson                    Pattern Recognition
                                                     Idoru=A0 =20
Cormac McCarthy =
=A0 =A0=A0         The Road=20
Ian McDonald    =
              River of Gods
Jack McDevitt               Seeker=20
Audrey Niffenegger=
         The Time Travellers Wife 
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--001636164ad179d7fa046abc8367-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 15:39:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3705B3BE84; Mon, 25 May 2009 15:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 25 May 2009 15:39:14 UTC From: "franticworld" To: References: <008401c7b1db$1d41bc70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <498313.36631.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c9daaf$50306290$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A165ADB.1080003@tiscali.co.uk> <44e368750905220807q4dde84f2ibfc49fd7793a76e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: new to the list Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 17:34:04 +0200 Message-ID: <499AE971536B49FF889C231EF12BD54A@xppro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E5_01C9DD5F.004F2BF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acna7xrkWn85zOblRIaCAGXiWzax+ACQStjQ In-Reply-To: <44e368750905220807q4dde84f2ibfc49fd7793a76e3@mail.gmail.com> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18j11ye0aS2UVtHIchddoy34GidZKZrmCwYOFE ObluBusVFQgzHxP46YygzY5c2ulw8+69aoTMbeBgulO86AqdX/ Jt04AzyFlomB3ez3gQN2Wei8wdtVwFx Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:39:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E5_01C9DD5F.004F2BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi everybody, =20 i just wanted to say hello to everyone here. my name is hauke. i live in kraftwerks hometown d=FCsseldorf, germany. =20 i am recording some kind of lo-fi pop often based on loops. www.myspace.com/greatdynamo. i would not call myself very experienced = with loops and gear but i just updated my equipment with a roland 404 and = some strange old drum synthesizer called formanta. this will hopefully take = me some steps beyond the rebirth based stuff i did before. =20 my latest project is THE LOOP RECYCLER. i am recording tunes based on = other peoples =93used=94 loops. www.myspace.com/thelooprecycler. the outcome = is planned to be released on the german EDITION59 label late this year. http://www.myspace.com/edition59 =20 if somebody feels like contributing something i would be really happy. =20 cheers, hauke=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_01E5_01C9DD5F.004F2BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hi = everybody,

 

i just wanted to say = hello to everyone here. my name is hauke. i live in kraftwerks hometown = düsseldorf, germany.

 

i am recording some = kind of lo-fi pop often based on loops. www.myspace.com/greatdynamo. i would not call myself very experienced with loops and gear but i just = updated my equipment with a roland 404 and some strange old drum synthesizer = called formanta. this will hopefully take me some steps beyond the rebirth = based stuff i did before.

 

my latest project is = THE LOOP RECYCLER. i am recording tunes based on other peoples “used” = loops. www.myspace.com/theloopre= cycler. the outcome is planned to be released on the german EDITION59 label late = this year. http://www.myspace.com/edition5= 9

 

if somebody feels = like contributing something i would be really = happy.

 

cheers, hauke =

 

------=_NextPart_000_01E5_01C9DD5F.004F2BF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 20:25:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BFAF3BE84; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 469 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:25:13 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xA2sd5E+knqh3wUZGxfZloYkzGTMhJ1aGBxApdJ0vS8=; b=Csy2FDwCi/dDtUV6NNILVl1xaEyf9sjOBH7BArBIB3Exl+SPPvO6jgsbrp1A6bOvZ4 ntFV94QH0q5yetZlSTedLWypkE3oyk0XNnSWckdBZwBOfWcQv/d4H0e2221K4r15ZBOl Cch3iNE58PYjV5rwt5DMCa8bXWQpTDEWXGQ9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Qcgb5IjcvEwq8LN7PjJhffuzA83zZKzbGmWcDm5yBWd20pQ0ISXtyrOQEgWB/ThgiD 0rtNLwjdLfJqgZddGmXyFb1jscsJb8uNNe1elAQolokk1xHlwTErjPp0+PA3jSKra6hT wYavSikqsbZiBtu1tqkbp+W/v4C2iu33U70DY= Message-ID: <4A1AFCCE.60209@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:17:18 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Raul Bonell schrieb: > i try to make the final mixes on logic, but since logic can't import > 32 bits files... i'd go for the 24 bits format in live, although as > i'm using lots of ableton's fx (and that's where 32 bits makes sense), > if i render 24 bits files, then i need to dither from 32 to 24 prior > to importing the files into logic (or i should?). No, not necessary. 32-bit is a floating point format with a 24-bit mantissa. If you don't leave a lot of headroom or go beyond your dac range it shouldn't make a difference. 32 to 24 is just trashing the exponent... (more or less...) -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 22:17:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5453D3BE88; Mon, 25 May 2009 22:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243289835; bh=En+me564oa49XQLCbWrMUl1iwgiEcVN07eYfZXZ0q78=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lNcfGHNmoxOpVpJRdMU+ZRqV1DkKQBhaAdbkT5YUzFCdaUNCD5yeVXilgIUfKByA5skfDNK0ZCdPgbnbAxERADePy/6+ScT8rD8Dr+Ora8hto1yu5VZNZgMrNeSJ8ZCMPraXk2tClhfU18IkuB8oTKNQEovd9Urb/4YLUWghNsY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JCIiMUBH1zsTPENqYPAxK+yxgXOqBsKG0dGjCI9u6i2KnLBSWVquPYur41fgiJx42DZPX5Ioz6IvhSJbUPcip3m8lC3rCv0uJChiDCLSXFuf9rIoqMIOhwGe726JY+yZwYScxd04a2MCEh7lNY9EeOrXoZSFRb4z+aDb7gphhB8=; Message-ID: <966744.12522.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:17:15 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: help! need quick simple way to make laptop into looping/sampling machine To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1P210.A.Nz.tjxGKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:17:17 +0000 (UTC) David make sure you are installing the mac version,then you have to configu= re it with your soundcard(audio and midi devices) it should install and work really easy ,but mobius isnt probably something = you want to use if u have no experience with EDPs and computers! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- david molina schrieb am Sa, 23.5.2009: > Von: david molina > Betreff: help! need quick simple way to make laptop into looping/sampling= machine > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Samstag, 23. Mai 2009, 14:50 > hi everybody. > i have always been a gear head and have always > been anti computer, but am caught in an emergency dilema. > =A0=A0I'm about to head out on a music tour of South > America in about a week and all my looping gear just died on > me. >=20 > I have a Mac Book Pro Laptop. =A0I tried to > install Mobius, and it didn't work. =A0I dont' know > much about computers so maybe i'm doing something > wrong.=A0A friend gave me a copy of Logic which has Main > Stage. =A0I also heard about Super Looper. =A0 I am used to > live looping and extreme sound manipulation of what i sample > live on the spot. =A0what do you suggest? >=20 > is there a way i can set up my mixer to go > straight into my internal input jack and work with any of > the mentioned programs? > I will be running a guitar, mike, and Line 6 POD > XT thru the mixer. >=20 > thanks > david > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 22:32:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28CF73BE8C; Mon, 25 May 2009 22:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243290723; bh=jcPC0uSbAIZFIDS+SY5g3jrS9PkKCX+1rSUjBtlFWxo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2EHet54nPG7cvmxzkXAK2Q/rrRKIikIG4SavbcpOqhCNpghazPMKYbacmckzdh2Xla9btjkvoB2pt+6LS05j4rk8SWhSzbv6zPYjZZl+NteRAmNOrg4c2VmNdYJNUEj8nKp/KrGPX9KlY2ifYUhpsp2f0s5UyaE+cYrkSotiAWI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RkGDfYxmaj2/jhbyIKKUuYOu5K4JZYOXHeljymjHohqwjIMBuldHtZne5yFS305mjdnSLQdemMQsBloiY9GH02D9urTi90C6B/IE5Ue7p5ufsSoa7asaPx8bHvGmiPi1rYaDsWjPf44rA9kFURlYAQzLsxgoQRQq4WcVLqwl3As=; Message-ID: <947027.94060.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:32:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:32:05 +0000 (UTC) wowo Daryl glad to hear you will be in San Diego playing ! let me know wher= e,ok? cheers Luis > > looping show isn't until Tuesday, when I have two in > San Diego in one > > night (both good bills, wish I coulda spread them > out). > > > > http://www.swanwelder.com/tour/summer09.htm > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- >=20 >=20 >=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2130 - Release > Date: 05/23/09=20 > 07:00:00 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 22:45:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1F0A3BE8C; Mon, 25 May 2009 22:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1B1F8F.40509@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:45:35 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too References: <947027.94060.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <947027.94060.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:45:37 +0000 (UTC) hey Luis, you there right now? Since this is loopin'-related, I'll spam here in public - this is for tomorrow (aka Tuesday the 26th): First I'm playing at the San Diego Center for the Arts, at 8 p.m. (this is presented by Trummerflora, who are a great group of experimentalists down there), located at 2141 El Cajon Blvd. http://www.sdcenterforthearts.org. Also appearing is Nathan Hubbard and his group Everything After. Then I scoot down the street for a set at Soda Bar, opening for Peninsula Project (from Norway) and Basshaters (from San Francisco), who are an excellent acoustic bass/drums improv duo. That'll definitely be a noisier set. http://www.myspace.com/sodabarbooking, 3615 El Cajon Blvd. First looping shows of the tour - I've been dying for it too, after three acoustic shows. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > wowo Daryl glad to hear you will be in San Diego playing ! let me know where,ok? > cheers > Luis > > > > >>> looping show isn't until Tuesday, when I have two in >>> >> San Diego in one >> >>> night (both good bills, wish I coulda spread them >>> >> out). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 23:05:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5C393BE88; Mon, 25 May 2009 23:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UY/+G5PXHAwj4HEMe2eBRyPrNoJDnc4uaFBhuQq8f7Q=; b=H9IghkAPRs14282iY/x7YUizwNu2/RXj8lM1w6SyH9dQlJQ91oIXSysm+pR1X8xz4B ShJ8r7pVHttEpzf9GsKZtylZcCGS2JW1NsSlPT9s1owWznbsHmlTJuXZQ4q8kwr71Seb SSB7kOlhahBRkFtSH3zu4Tg8E8i6k9NYej5dg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w9wzJaoR0uylYruK8n3eQKh/XMAHmg+T9xdVbZfRsy+U0N0I7OrWwc34lGgc/4BC6c 9AkrrDFO+Jd4JO9nEMDvotjJidZU9miJAXdu3fvEFcLJ6DAuRnahjGkAzlE6V75uMGAW mk2Ihqs0BJ6gBirSrrGqmWanpeMPUKz7aOf5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1AFCCE.60209@googlemail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905150606g37fd49b3y71844566892d0627@mail.gmail.com> <4A1AFCCE.60209@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:05:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question about OSX audio routing From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:05:41 +0000 (UTC) i understand what you say... so both extremes have their inconvenience, overloading the dac being the worst i supose. so it's better to leave any kind of dithering (even the less *intrussive*) when going form 32 bits to 24 bits if you plan to do some post editing and/or mixing of various tracks. ... thanks stefan. 2009/5/25, Stefan Tiedje : > Raul Bonell schrieb: >> i try to make the final mixes on logic, but since logic can't import >> 32 bits files... i'd go for the 24 bits format in live, although as >> i'm using lots of ableton's fx (and that's where 32 bits makes sense), >> if i render 24 bits files, then i need to dither from 32 to 24 prior >> to importing the files into logic (or i should?). > > No, not necessary. 32-bit is a floating point format with a 24-bit > mantissa. If you don't leave a lot of headroom or go beyond your dac > range it shouldn't make a difference. 32 to 24 is just trashing the > exponent... (more or less...) > > -- > Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 25 23:24:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 224033BE86; Mon, 25 May 2009 23:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4A1B1F8F.40509@mhorse.com> References: <947027.94060.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A1B1F8F.40509@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 16:24:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, Say "hi" to Nathan Hubbard for me. He played in Ashland with me the last time he was up this way. Fond memories . . . he's a talented guy. Best, Ted On May 25, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > hey Luis, you there right now? Since this is loopin'-related, I'll > spam here in public - this is for tomorrow (aka Tuesday the 26th): > > First I'm playing at the San Diego Center for the Arts, at 8 p.m. > (this is presented by Trummerflora, who are a great group of > experimentalists down there), located at 2141 El Cajon Blvd. > http://www.sdcenterforthearts.org. Also appearing is Nathan Hubbard > and his group Everything After. > > Then I scoot down the street for a set at Soda Bar, opening for > Peninsula Project (from Norway) and Basshaters (from San Francisco), > who are an excellent acoustic bass/drums improv duo. That'll > definitely be a noisier set. http://www.myspace.com/sodabarbooking, > 3615 El Cajon Blvd. > > First looping shows of the tour - I've been dying for it too, after > three acoustic shows. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> wowo Daryl glad to hear you will be in San Diego playing ! let me >> know where,ok? >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> >> >>>> looping show isn't until Tuesday, when I have two in >>>> >>> San Diego in one >>> >>>> night (both good bills, wish I coulda spread them >>>> >>> out). > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 00:16:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 861233BE88; Tue, 26 May 2009 00:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243296974; bh=qqsgaJbSgBym2XQVAC9pjsGYQkPXxMJ32sSnuo5oKHQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IZMkyclekZ0eWNvvWgUWsUnKlVwgBtj3mxE/DediU3VpddnFM/c33czFSgA/S2w7wvxIqL60FDar1SbfPY0zg3YfzkJBAE6POAt2TJKgj9Xcthq/5bTG2Wp27d9L745KGuAWENjel1OBr1HF+B1hXhWaL1pJGVY+s3I+FhLNwIQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OQ0HrnlGxsTm5dJAHMQHo6E1YLFWJmNT+C/C4tsk16u7bzu1kk6INnCWkBFiUL4YscTdxrK4+brInC8FHg0+Vtb5fvXMA8X9+H3dKRMJ70d4jmpl91mBzUUH3Bbd/1s8M3nq5vGYjzDRlyovSpA5eTlswkmakNcnWQ2g8Y1AwKI=; Message-ID: <30056.61314.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 00:16:13 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 00:16:15 +0000 (UTC) no but man i wish i was,though at the moment i am really getting excited ab= out Belgium as well! have a killer time and gig buddy www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Daryl Shawn schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: > Von: Daryl Shawn > Betreff: Re: Tour Report, Too > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 15:45 > hey Luis, you there right now? Since > this is loopin'-related, I'll spam here in public - this is > for tomorrow (aka Tuesday the 26th): >=20 > First I'm playing at the San Diego Center for the Arts, at > 8 p.m. (this is presented by Trummerflora, who are a great > group of experimentalists down there), located at 2141 El > Cajon Blvd. http://www.sdcenterforthearts.org.=A0 > Also appearing is Nathan Hubbard and his group Everything > After. >=20 > Then I scoot down the street for a set at Soda Bar, opening > for Peninsula Project (from Norway) and Basshaters (from San > Francisco), who are an excellent acoustic bass/drums improv > duo. That'll definitely be a noisier set. http://www.myspace.com/sodabarb= ooking, 3615 El Cajon > Blvd. >=20 > First looping shows of the tour - I've been dying for it > too, after three acoustic shows. >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >=20 > > wowo Daryl glad to hear you will be in San Diego > playing ! let me know where,ok? > > cheers > > Luis > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=A0=A0=A0 > >>> looping show isn't until Tuesday, when I have > two in > >>>=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 > >> San Diego in one > >>=A0 =A0=A0=A0 > >>> night (both good bills, wish I coulda spread > them > >>>=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 > >> out). >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 01:09:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84A313BE87; Tue, 26 May 2009 01:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1B413F.5030604@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:09:19 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too References: <30056.61314.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <30056.61314.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Luis!! sure wish I could make it to Europe too this summer. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > no but man i wish i was,though at the moment i am really getting excited about Belgium as well! > have a killer time and gig buddy > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 01:31:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5F313BE85; Tue, 26 May 2009 01:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <74FAC566-01DE-41B2-BC07-762E8FAB4DE4@theclaypools.com> From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640905250623l3fb014d7u3ee831fdd4eb3615@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-853777177 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST of RECOMMENDED NEW & NEWISH SCIENCE FICTION Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:31:05 -0500 References: <4A1A043D.3060305@cruzio.com> <101191640905250623l3fb014d7u3ee831fdd4eb3615@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:31:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-853777177 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just finished Neal Stephenson's latest novel "Anathem" - I am stunned by the brilliance of the book. On May 25, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Thanks for compiling this - I think I have my next 3 years of > fiction planned now. > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > Thanks, everyone, > Here is a hastily collated list for future reference > of all the recommendations everyone sent in (I love this list!) > Forgive me if I missed something and thanks for your help. > Rick Walker > > LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST of RECOMMENDED NEW & NEWISH SCIENCE FICTION > > Margaret Atwood Oryx And Crake > Iain Banks Consider Phlebas > Stephen Baxter Manifold: Space > Manifold: Time > Stephen Baxter Timelike Infinity > Gregory Benford Galactic Center (series) > David Brin Startide Rising > Earth > Orson Scott Card Enders Game (series) > Jay Caselberg Wyrmhole > Jack Chalker Midnight in the Well of Souls > Douglas Coupland Girlfriend In A Coma > Thomas M Disch The Genocides (old school dystopian) > Greg Egan Diaspora > William Gibson Pattern Recognition > Idoru > Cormac McCarthy The Road > Ian McDonald River of Gods > Jack McDevitt Seeker > Audrey Niffenegger The Time Travellers Wife > Jeff Noon Pixel Juice > Needle In The > Groove > Frederik Pohl Gateway (Heechee series) > Philip Pullman The Golden Compass (fantasy) > Kim Stanley Robinson The Planet on the Table > Red Mars (the > trilogy) > Neil Stephenson Diamond Age > Snow Crash > George Saunders Civilwarland In Bad Decline > Clifford Simac Way Station > Dan Simmons Hyperion (series) > Ian Stewart/Jack Cross Wheelers > Charles Stross Singularity Sky > Accelerando > Glass House > Michael Swanwick Stations of the Tide > John Varley Millenium (Novella) > Persistence of > Vision (short stories) > Vernor Vinge Fire Upon the Deep > Robert Charles Wilson Spin > David Zindell Neverness > > > > > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there --Apple-Mail-1-853777177 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just finished Neal Stephenson's = latest novel "Anathem" - I am stunned by the brilliance of the = book. 
On May 25, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Warren Sirota = wrote:

Thanks for compiling this - I think I have my next 3 years = of fiction planned now.

On Sun, May = 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> = wrote:
Thanks, = everyone,   
Here is a hastily collated list for = future reference
of all the recommendations everyone sent in (I = love this list!)
Forgive me if I missed something and thanks for = your help.
Rick Walker

LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST = of RECOMMENDED NEW & NEWISH SCIENCE FICTION

= Margaret = Atwood        Oryx And = Crake
Iain = Banks    &nb= sp;            = ;     Consider Phlebas =
Stephen = Baxter     =       Manifold: = Space
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;            =          Manifold: = Time
Stephen =
Baxter      Timelike Infinity=20
Gregory Benford            =
      Galactic Center (series)
David Brin                   =
        Startide Rising
                                                 Earth
Orson Scott Card           Enders Game (series)
Jay Caselberg   =
               Wyrmhole    
Jack =
Chalker          =
     Midnight in the Well of Souls   =20
Douglas Coupland   =
      Girlfriend In A Coma 
Thomas M =
Disch             =
The Genocides    (old school dystopian)
Greg =
Egan              Diaspora =20
William Gibson                    Pattern Recognition
                                                     Idoru  =20=

Cormac McCarthy =
             The Road=20
Ian McDonald  =
                River of Gods
Jack =
McDevitt         =
      Seeker=20
Audrey =
Niffenegger      =
   The Time Travellers Wife =

Jeff =
Noon          =
                     =
Pixel Juice  =20
                                                    Needle In The =
Groove     =20
Frederik Pohl                  =
Gateway (Heechee series)
Philip =
Pullman          =
    The Golden Compass  (fantasy) =20
Kim Stanley Robinson  =
The Planet on the Table
                                                     Red Mars (the =
trilogy)
 Neil =
Stephenson              =
Diamond Age
                                                     Snow Crash =

George Saunders     =
        Civilwarland In Bad Decline
Clifford =
Simac            =
   Way Station      =20
Dan Simmons                     Hyperion   (series) =20=

Ian Stewart/Jack Cross    Wheelers
Charles =
Stross           =
    Singularity Sky      
                                                     Accelerando
                                                     Glass House
Michael Swanwick      =
      Stations of the Tide =

John Varley                  =
        Millenium  (Novella)
                                                     Persistence of =
Vision (short stories)
Vernor =
Vinge            =
   Fire Upon the Deep  
Robert =
Charles Wilson    =
Spin
David =
Zindell                    Neverness




-- =
Warren
http://www.ubet= oo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warrensirota.com
=

All the = best,

Loren = Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar = music
www.lorenclaypool.com and = links from there



= --Apple-Mail-1-853777177-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 01:49:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BBEE3BE88; Tue, 26 May 2009 01:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1B4AA0.6050005@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:49:20 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: info@franticworld.d, "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Welcome Hauke, to the live looping community Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9wFvgD.A.4O.lq0GKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi Hauke, Welcome to the list. I'd love to contribute some stuff. I love lo fi pop and am working on some material like that as we speak. You might also really enjoy my wife, Christine Wedertz's work, by the way. She's making an entire lo fi pop record right now, playing all the instruments, recording and producing by herself. She's at www.myspace.com/donebeginner her first four tracks are up there. She used an old seventies cassette recorder to record her vocals. It has terrible wow and flutter..........it sounds great. Anyway, I produce the world's largest live looping festival every year in Northern California in the third week of October. This year, the Y2K9 International Live Looping Festival will feature 50-55 artists from 5-10 countries in 6 days in 4 cities. If you put a live project together using live looping, I'd love to encourage you to apply to perform. Applications will be accepted after the 1st of August (and not before) by sending an email with this in the subject line: Y2K9 SUBMISSION: (your name here)(your country of residence) and all your contact information in the body of the email You can send that to looppool (at) cruzio (dot) com Welcome to the list and we look forward to hearing your creativity. yours, in the loop, Rick Walker www.looppool.info/bio.htmlWe From tkmwhz@raiffeisen.ro Tue May 26 01:55:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.94]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122023BE80; Tue, 26 May 2009 01:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2702.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 297701C00290; Tue, 26 May 2009 03:55:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (LRouen-152-83-13-18.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.13.76.18]) by mwinf2702.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C01C71C00294; Tue, 26 May 2009 03:55:37 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090526015537787.C01C71C00294@mwinf2702.orange.fr Reply-To: tkmwhz@raiffeisen.ro From: Commonwealth Bank Subject: Unauthorized Activity ! Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 03:57:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090526015537.C01C71C00294@mwinf2702.orange.fr> To: undisclosed-recipients:;

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 03:56:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F9593BE8C; Tue, 26 May 2009 03:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 484 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 26 May 2009 03:56:19 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nvfNALfWYzaZhPJOdCMlH45Pk5lH0misGc4J9vPDGeTE7xzed6rV0mlHfvt7mzeq; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <022c01c9ddb4$ac338880$6601a8c0@ECCO> From: "JC" To: References: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:47:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ELNK-Trace: 250e53821a8c36f54d2b10475b571120ae0ef598b95ba80245abb8b2fd68d620790fad917fc14d6b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.181.230.221 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 03:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, This might be a bit late, but I would heartily recommend Greg Egan I've read "Permutation City" "Quarantine" and a collection of short stories called "Axiomatic" They are all very intellectual, in the best Science Fiction tradition, and they definitely go places where most previous Science Fiction hasn't gone. They are all very enjoyable as stories as well. JC Mendizabal Black Note Music http://www.blacknotemusic.com Via Sinistrae www.viasinistrae.com http://sinistrae.libsyn.com/ Other Sites http://www.allhaildiscordia.com/ http://maddogmagick.blogspot.com/ http://secretsareeverywhere.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? >I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. > > Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction > that has been written in the last ten years. > > I used to read a lot and have loved Card, Varley, Pohl, Bear, Robinson, > et. al. > > I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know who to > go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at least > 20 years ago. > > Thanks, > Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 04:44:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F5D93BEC5; Tue, 26 May 2009 04:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 364 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 26 May 2009 04:44:02 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=GBAtDztedyKj0aYXo5sto96+CNC6wLR05tQ3IAOXvZ0=; b=FF0w59WaP9yStLOpFDOvsxs3rNgb+Yufyimuw9e/ti16FPwRC1Q6W5/vWYN4o0dXHi pNBz2HTofNd3CAQVC6UeTpluH0SqEornMZ0NWsQwZnmY0eOhCLRPpsCAHRAakESVUx0X S0SN8p71hwfwWRK6Tm4fuH/oE8OFKHPpb3mlU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=p3Manit49odAcYRbifP1G3dSyxD3iS8bMRoiZK+JVihlp3IbvdggK2UvQN+MuLVl2S +H4+CfGJ2qvjhw2W7FoPCZZ3vcepPktRUzPjEChYdHdXttwpYaP9PJX9czsjijv9MAkj c3XjVcDsxuVR4XDoww5gmrhcWqYO8nkUg+VG0= Message-Id: <95ACC287-8C8D-4871-A8A1-FC6DFEF9394E@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Punch-In silence Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:37:53 -0300 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 04:44:02 +0000 (UTC) People, is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in silence? a function like substitute would do the trick of course. I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to find one here in Argentina. thank you very much. very best, ariel. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 04:50:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54BC23BEC7; Tue, 26 May 2009 04:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243313416; bh=3cv7NGnV9qQ6cDnmKeamcQX2jqUpbGRhneK6sVypKTU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fLYB+LK/MLbAiXOYSLa5FCAuaGe8/hyL71lP9WLNlNPPTI2Zxpvw8U0uPw4X5q4zqWPFdm5yrYlJy2v2tqSWviPNFdFoij7d/9QIvRjKolrhANjWe9fNns+LGkjPUp7uvv/ZA7OEwOSP2tvl29z6nA8FCccOpO0hCktyQsBXrDE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3EXmYKjl2A22qsfLIQKDB+1ZAj09xDsDwhYO8uyQ9uGMwP9Y0JpMdRmDp+NlsbCk4pn3GtqtwKcfV08Yh0e3EmCrnssChFNLjSAirPax7zpRDqiUy8lNdfrN0cFpSLHEjk9JoYVRj7Z8+GiWpE1aowclvYbiF+OZEWw3UGQmrnA=; Message-ID: <793939.50695.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 04:50:16 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Punch-In silence To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 04:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec. looper with a replace fu= nction plus speed rate shifting check it out http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.aspx the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its allright www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Ariel Rzezak schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: > Von: Ariel Rzezak > Betreff: Punch-In silence > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 25. 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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 08:18:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 893A43BE88; Tue, 26 May 2009 08:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 201008876/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.227.133/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.227.133 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMCAO5BG0pPTuOF/2dsb2JhbAAIzHGCPIFPBYhP X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,250,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="201008876" Message-ID: <4A1BA8B9.4080809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:30:49 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Punch-In silence References: <95ACC287-8C8D-4871-A8A1-FC6DFEF9394E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <95ACC287-8C8D-4871-A8A1-FC6DFEF9394E@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man ( but not v.short punch ins, it'll identify those as tap tempo). Boss RC-50 has a specific "Overdub Mode" for this. ...but everybody hates it :-) andy butler Ariel Rzezak wrote: > People, > > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in silence? a function like > substitute would do the trick of course. > > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to find one here in Argentina. > > thank you very much. > > very best, ariel. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 11:09:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 176333BE89; Tue, 26 May 2009 11:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: jayrope LD To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090526013110.D794E3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: MORE RECOMMENDED SCIFI Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 13:09:38 +0200 References: <20090526013110.D794E3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <_vAKiC.A.dJH.238GKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Seen the scifi book thread too late but: Add to Jeff Noon these most important books, the trilogy Vurt Pollen Nymphomation plus a VERY good read for us loopers Cobralingus in which he explains his methods of text sampling/reordering etc. Enjoy! - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On May 26, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > Re: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST of RECOMMEN From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 11:37:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 913BA3BE8D; Tue, 26 May 2009 11:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9hvCfSanmF6W3/ATIQUCgtc/ifWhF3r7zuj+Ap7mUxA=; b=rxXrNMfi00SBJnRYnXiEgqJCsHn1gZKyyJxdVxr1wlJaMnjvnVQmOFcIlhHtrzXgpV zPGWx5iYIBaLc9Q8S0OHbiwvQYBd67pvMOi8LQeIs+XX8jbMpSqBZrOoko3JccyJpDyZ 3CKZMO986DfP5a54HeNLbm9CsKrseKAk5RzF4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N4caiicbm7eVH9ToprNG0hjgQoXPRqnCjasID61UORsphTh5bkEUQfWTRs7l2knUKw DxyOVw51cfMA1J8U4/zeQoE0YL/ON8/yM5G+f7SmjGHN6pfYYaJG7reHalUS2pe/LU44 DD/KenRjbkjtFC0IhflYYvvMw0k/huxCKWr5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <793939.50695.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <793939.50695.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:37:36 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0905260437r3f9b24f3w8de2efca693cdb80@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Punch-In silence From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c9356a4b6869046acf27d4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:37:37 +0000 (UTC) --001636c9356a4b6869046acf27d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The timefactor did not work well for me. Lots of pops, clicks, strange artifacts at loops ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix it in a future update but when asked about it eventide said there is no release date for an update. This was 5-6 months ago so maybe they have updated it by now. There is a long thread on eventide's forums about the problems with the looper function. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec. looper with a replace > function plus speed rate shifting > check it out > > http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.aspx > > the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its allright > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Ariel Rzezak schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: > > > Von: Ariel Rzezak > > Betreff: Punch-In silence > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37 > > People, > > > > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in silence? a > > function like substitute would do the trick of course. > > > > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to find one here in > > Argentina. > > > > thank you very much. > > > > very best, ariel. > > > > > > > > > --001636c9356a4b6869046acf27d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The timefactor did not work well for me. Lots of pops, clicks, strange arti= facts at loops ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix it in a fut= ure update but when asked about it eventide said there is no release date f= or an update. This was 5-6 months ago so maybe they have updated it by now.= There is a long thread on eventide's forums about the problems with th= e looper function.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM, L.Angulo <= span dir=3D"ltr"><labaloops@yahoo= .com> wrote:

Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec. looper with a replace fu= nction plus speed rate shifting
check it out

http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products= /StompBoxes/TimeFactor.aspx

the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its allright

www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--- Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com= > schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009:

> Von: Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gma= il.com>
> Betreff: Punch-In silence
> An: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37
> People,
>
> is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in silence? a
> function like substitute would do the trick of course.
>
> I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to find one here in
> Argentina.
>
> thank you very much.
>
> very best, ariel.
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--001636c9356a4b6869046acf27d4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 12:09:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 924283BE8D; Tue, 26 May 2009 12:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 201138076/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.227.133/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.227.133 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMCADN5G0pPTuOF/2dsb2JhbAAIzRCECwWITw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,251,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="201138076" Message-ID: <4A1BDEE3.3020704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 13:21:55 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD , Matthias Grob Subject: RC-50 Impressions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:09:38 +0000 (UTC) I had an RC-50 here for a couple of days, enough for a rough evaluation. sure most of this is old news one thing...I now have greater admiration for anyone who can make this box work for them. Note: in RC50-speak, each patch has 3 loops which are called "Phrases" Negatives first:- 1) Sound quality is a bit disappointing. My guitar distorted on playback without having lit the overload LED. With more time, maybe I would have sorted the levels better, but certainly no headroom. Microphone input seems equivalent to that on a cheap mixer. My very subjective impression was that Boss/Roland had saved a few pennies on the analog chips (which I've noticed before on their products). 2) Playback volume for phrases is meant to match dry volume at a setting of 100. It doesn't, seemed to match at about 85. 3) Midi implementation is a horrible joke. 4) No quick way to clear all 3 phrases. ( probably a workaround by shifting to new patch). 5) Difficult to find things in the manual, even after reading it through. 6) The famous "gap at the beginning of the first repeat" can be got rid of by following the steps described in the manual. Hidden in the appendix. ...but when I recorded a second phrase I often heard it return. 7) Before reading the manual, I had a play with it. First there was the pre-recorded stuff, then the drum machine, and when those had been avoided, it is actually possible to start looping. 8) A lot of features are only accessible by menu. 9) Not possible to make 3 unsynced loops. 10) Shortest loop, 1.5s 11) Reverse produces clicks. Glitchy, but not in a nice way. 12) Manual describes the onboard drum machine as "ultra-high quality" and " a match for a dedicated unit". That's just 2 outright lies. 13) Overall, the user interface is not well thought out. 14) Software version not shown on boot-up. Positives:- 1) Able to select the next loop for recording/playback while in record. That would have been nice for the EDP, which always ends record when the Nextloop button is pressed. 2) Pretty easy to get looping, to record a phrase, select new phrase, record the new phrase which is a multiple length of the first. Then the 3rd phrase can even be a different multiple of the first. 3) Time stretch has an interesting sound, especially on rhythmic material. 4) Onboard drums may have a use for some, possible to record a loop then bring the drums in (if loop starts exactly on downbeat). 5) Tempo button can be reprogrammed to Reverse, or Select Overdub mode. This can be programmed per patch. 6) Looks pretty easy to use the alternative mode where you can record 3 serial loops as parts of a song and switch between them. 7) Undo works for Record as well as OD, so provides a *relatively* quick way to re-record a loop. 8) For anyone into pre-recorded loops "I've learned something today":- 1) There's one feature which I would like to see in the EDP emulator (Next doesn't end Recording). 2) This is my first encounter with a Multi=track looper. There's a great impression of not being in control of the music any more compared to EDP. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 12:14:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D76473BE8E; Tue, 26 May 2009 12:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 26 May 2009 12:14:12 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=CLlXzFJpD64A4yR9NsCT6Fee0QHXcs4MCD1YprK7vy+H+Rofsnqa9Mo2OWQtwNGiiArvoTa7gWyY8u/MaWDOsxG1aQv01zetAPXVhRJcU/gMqJmOHdu9e0u6XiQUF+LU; Message-ID: <20090526070731.10hctqio144cgo8k@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:07:31 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tour Report, Too References: <947027.94060.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A1B1F8F.40509@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <4A1B1F8F.40509@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, Thanks for the progress reports. Looks like a great tour you've put togethe= r. Enjoy! -- Kevin Quoting Daryl Shawn : > hey Luis, you there right now? Since this is loopin'-related, I'll spam > here in public - this is for tomorrow (aka Tuesday the 26th): > > First I'm playing at the San Diego Center for the Arts, at 8 p.m. (this > is presented by Trummerflora, who are a great group of experimentalists > down there), located at 2141 El Cajon Blvd. > http://www.sdcenterforthearts.org. Also appearing is Nathan Hubbard > and his group Everything After. > > Then I scoot down the street for a set at Soda Bar, opening for > Peninsula Project (from Norway) and Basshaters (from San Francisco), > who are an excellent acoustic bass/drums improv duo. That'll definitely > be a noisier set. http://www.myspace.com/sodabarbooking, 3615 El Cajon > Blvd. > > First looping shows of the tour - I've been dying for it too, after > three acoustic shows. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> wowo Daryl glad to hear you will be in San Diego playing ! let me =20 >> know where,ok? >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> >> >>>> looping show isn't until Tuesday, when I have two in >>>> >>> San Diego in one >>> >>>> night (both good bills, wish I coulda spread them >>>> >>> out). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 12:22:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37DEF3BE87; Tue, 26 May 2009 12:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=W0NYQiGiL6iO+C67QSEAEtf2WX1qGFgyqszr2GBwKhPfHAkv16nc07eO+t9VfImukTprV9hVrJunJ5W4FFQlQgTIWzJEeJItxtueAHVs7FnWlTvF9vc+rPNw0Guq35Zo; Message-ID: <20090526072224.tncb3epcw08ck8gs@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:22:24 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions References: <4A1BDEE3.3020704@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A1BDEE3.3020704@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Quoting andy butler : > > 9) Not possible to make 3 unsynced loops. > Andy, you can configure it to work as three seperate, unsync'd loopers =20 by turning off tempo sync and phrase sync. At least, that has worked =20 for me. > > 12) Manual describes the onboard drum machine as "ultra-high quality" and > " a match for a dedicated unit". That's just 2 outright lies. > I find the drum patterns to be kind of "hokey". I have, at times, run =20 the drum track out of the AUX output to a small floor monitor to use =20 as a click track, though. I wish it had a simple click setting. I've gotten excellent sound quality out of the unit -- I will add that =20 it took a bit of tweaking of the gain controls to get it to work, =20 though. I use balanced connections and I haven't done much with the =20 microphone preamp. > > 2) This is my first encounter with a Multi=3Dtrack looper. There's a > great impression of not being in > control of the music any more compared to EDP. > I find the RC-50 useful when I need a way to build drones, etc.... =20 with my theremin when I don't need to use midi clock sync. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 13:33:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA6CA3BE8D; Tue, 26 May 2009 13:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 204649196/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.227.133/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.227.133 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMCAOOMG0pPTuOF/2dsb2JhbAAIzkiECwWITw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,251,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="204649196" Message-ID: <4A1BF2A2.2090303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:46:10 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions References: <4A1BDEE3.3020704@tiscali.co.uk> <20090526072224.tncb3epcw08ck8gs@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20090526072224.tncb3epcw08ck8gs@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 13:33:52 +0000 (UTC) kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Quoting andy butler : > >> >> 9) Not possible to make 3 unsynced loops. >> > Andy, you can configure it to work as three seperate, unsync'd loopers > by turning off tempo sync and phrase sync. At least, that has worked > for me. Thanks for the feedback there Kevin. Ahh. If I recorded a new phrase when one was playing, the RC-50 always played it back synced, even if it was a multiple in length of the first loop. I think I had all the "syncs" turned off, otherwise the loops would have been trimmed to equal length (afaik) Is it possible to record a 4s loop, and while listening make a 3s loop and have them play back in an approximate polyrhythm? i.e. nearly coinciding every 3 reps of the 4s loop? My impression was that the RC-50 wouldn't allow that. ...but I only had it a short time. I only really set it up For my friend who's just going to layer up a few parts. So I my report quite likely needs some correction. >> >> 12) Manual describes the onboard drum machine as "ultra-high quality" and >> " a match for a dedicated unit". That's just 2 outright lies. >> > I find the drum patterns to be kind of "hokey". I have, at times, run > the drum track out of the AUX output to a small floor monitor to use as > a click track, though. I wish it had a simple click setting. Doesn't it have just hi-hat? > > I've gotten excellent sound quality out of the unit -- I will add that > it took a bit of tweaking of the gain controls to get it to work, > though. Well I just plugged in my guitar. (1MOhm input called "instrument".) If it's got balanced I/O then Roland are keeping rather quiet about it ;-) Did you have to lower the volume sent to the RC-50 rather than turn down the RC-50 input vol? > I use balanced connections and I haven't done much with the > microphone preamp. I've seen it work fine for beatboxing. Really, I hope anyone who has this unit can get the best out of it. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 14:38:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EDB23BE87; Tue, 26 May 2009 14:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=M/StwBK/qP1kX52T1hdzx87wPqh/fnwmWOsfMqqz8cs=; b=a5+zQLMSb1lld+/Z0Pc2lFjjXZC7c5oX7suprhV3gEVJq9MO5QshvFQ2TMYMF08c/+ w3WGKnDjqO2Mg76etY6xESEzlpXUejm3f6FbfOZGDHttrS+vGcR5rT5FT2LgXH3xe8Uu a6kF+GToljFg/L1azBd3HpL1x4Jiq08xuIgMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fExI7NdvneQQ/CZUclW31IAHt0+r5j/qAMwIPPR3+GKwoHctILmdsH/7yFsIO8uqcj X/pbDCWdXq0Wt/pvACJygpckNPH3bQBtqS84Vk2QiZg8suykbYCYsDuOGhdniYjBEBjj WjANpXRpUEvl7XRsFnE5KA9cBnQt+0Gcnv9d0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:38:51 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ea0eee3809e0350a Message-ID: Subject: new Improvizone videos From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:38:54 +0000 (UTC) http://vimeo.com/album/96175 same line-up as last gig. check out part 8 for me wigging out on wah-wah EWI :) cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 14:47:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93E1B3BE87; Tue, 26 May 2009 14:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EoSw82q0nlfPBUkzfob2mdw2andSsMfjS/x5BRxydSk=; b=R2EfMbKwZkiIRApzXfblPuW0VCo9tc0QD54iL6ZhpmrSGrPOoLRPBcr8BNmqWO77d3 RbKZ2rlCioYX1iiXSEumZjfyjbCy9dU3xJwtflovzCianvi6320z5xH1Mfg+NSb9QWSS ozdf5DCfXsht3GvLvAYFb2Ybc57zaAJoE3nRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mi6BsLuCj2tiu4JGz+cXbNeIjxp3i0k5eiO0j05IwN4cVWC4/lWHi171pO4J69E/Ll taUnyJNPgYQqju8dR5fQs6bFuqMsZXlMN950cJd9+MhRtqIyZsdZc+upyLJraok8xxUl Np46hg03GUrymNQbg+R6F22k/1RfsZdqBG7Dc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:47:07 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905260747n5c44c31ex97f5ac413125c50f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new Improvizone videos From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:47:08 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Os wrote: > http://vimeo.com/album/96175 > same line-up as last gig. > check out part 8 for me wigging out on wah-wah EWI :) Nice wigging! Is that the 9000s or the USB you are blowing? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 15:02:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A80F3BE75; Tue, 26 May 2009 15:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ykf5SMJuUwRSDaDFOC3M31X/RVe1QVl8/EPvU7MCc58=; b=Au1i559hV3btVxUlP/5bc0P3my7UOEUTtgPOx/Im2aOEdeHLfmOyx1K+9L2cc76sbH EEAI8u6mDiNUTuqLkyU2BE5u38r0Q5GXsTWK063vEFxMEMUvyZ1xfB8ioN+RMw2vkayz bCoAeemB13JS/iD3yByTK8aP+8m1/JJvd2JxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VMRKGHsbL7UlsYJ03RLJgjbeFBs1iR5vS+trEj1a6GYw33rMPy5XixI0Ue2sgHMR66 WQfcDMdD4bo3fDzqP//kM1C2fYsXYn5zQqjMPAW2IkHps4UYWS7sEMT9rrAgx0E1Y7I8 tw/w7r3tg58QZsSGD7HkqOUjQaVmoc9rsbWSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905260747n5c44c31ex97f5ac413125c50f@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905260747n5c44c31ex97f5ac413125c50f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:02:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a29f4af566e7c951 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new Improvizone videos From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:02:20 +0000 (UTC) it's the EWI USB, driving the bundled sample player, through a variety of effects. cheers, os. 2009/5/26 Per Boysen : > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Os wrote: >> http://vimeo.com/album/96175 >> same line-up as last gig. >> check out part 8 for me wigging out on wah-wah EWI :) > > Nice wigging! Is that the 9000s or the USB you are blowing? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 16:20:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 283E63BE8C; Tue, 26 May 2009 16:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pSEqIRJgFrvNYc/0eVrZpDAQEdTBn0DC++AeY+DqETY=; b=mvx5QeFPp7h/VPfkIQeqhyPPRf6uufe6oabhmQaRKnt9EvGI4Duuk8RklljYvYfjWk H1GP7Ais4D2meZLVDEi6na39DczUMD00pTuQj+WLvin0WZ5Q3OmCosyazMMT28WYYweH Gmejhb4OAKhisWS7subDMK6mdsh/DbZtEuaBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jt6oyvURGUR+GYlPqqSaoOXPSYggg0BL+V/G33CzWvV0ykIzZc2TB61A0HkARsQw89 ecAY1mhDCe9psys96nwu1kGHJi1U276GHpVvHMuMIKQE0vcYghfu52/9HowZcmUoaikf E1aENYw2pd7UeEQmHmxU0a+aDqjFUKc33Oga8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:20:19 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905260920o57894a40r63a43f5dee66b6f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Punch-In silence From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Ariel, about any looper which allows you to control feedback (either primary or secondary, to stick with EDP terminology) would allow you to do a substitute-style punchin of silence. Things in stompbox format which come to mind: Boss DD20, Digitech PDS series. I cannot recommend the DD20 often enough. The looper mode (called sound on sound) is crap, but the delay effects are great fun! There are a lot of very distinguished DD20 users on this list, and you'll find a lot of experiences both in the archives and in the "Tools of the Trade" section on www.loopers-delight.com Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 22:44:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 972C03BE9E; Tue, 26 May 2009 22:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mxAMJW7Ws4rrWQVP0usQPv7s3dTKfNVoEse4LQDF7Fk=; b=n+5DCedulDLlZ0MpgCkMD8F3UAgm0MBWplB9b4Va9Ud5saexlF5P16cyKf1QvQ0j/Q 8K1jnGmJYXRPQ5H2bPEBDCdlziOO0k6aOS6hN3qzVfm+afISwukfrgGEj5/StmclRGLC nLPEChWKiT5ZiDOo2zwLIr7vPC4FWMsHPzeDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XkJiwrMFrQecZfpt/xhc0m4uGUJvm6aa0z1diL2393sxgKyorTm6nE2qw1ryHZbjBU IEuAwGcpq0THxhGH4iLGJEPGyXm219BuTbAF+QAZqNoMBOXkmbdV7Pr0wK7b0THDp2po /7UyfNG7BNxcfPPA1MHQ0jrxDDIEOKO6LJoo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> References: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:44:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <67THED.A.hRG.aDHHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Some recent sci-fi/fantasy I've enjoyed: Neil Gaiman: American Gods Anansi Boys Jonathan Lethem: Gun With Occasional Music Wall of the Sky, Wall of the Eye Susannah Clarke: Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norell Neal Stephenson: the Diamond Age Snow Crash David Mitchell: Cloud Atlas On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. > > Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction > that has been written in the last ten years. > > I used to read a lot and have loved Card, =A0Varley, =A0Pohl, =A0Bear, Ro= binson, > =A0et. al. > > I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know who to > go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at least = 20 > years ago. > > Thanks, > Rick > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 23:01:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E0863BE89; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 468 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:01:42 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7pwbUmwWdZ4rt+dEOhlPsWzvG2kPSh2ObpRFAFDlUXM=; b=ijpXNJPEzz+TY2pRy4RaOX2MrPtjjlWdQUw7XmuzEz3f/2CVaKeX39Smz1T6aeIMIZ 28+EbBinSJfDNvS3p1kdFQpSuQF8JK6fkC8t1SgRfOwrEiEtQdMxUXcNKUsqp6VbZR1D mhVSgzsUSOKP1youH9lVSuBgdWCEMC1YFI5Y8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OY9V/I+iE+R0xhl7vcmmv4zS1E4GpffCV5pBZI7C0/OBbvqiUMNVPqtk4bnTp+F62g GxG9hFKcWEMStD4L3aNxtQJ6WGgKzqYM2YmnF9QxHOTyr4Kbs5PPcWx02OobSY5SMApP /HHBHiUhSQ54RYNh4uMsqf1YKRGYOvc+SvyNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1BA8B9.4080809@tiscali.co.uk> References: <95ACC287-8C8D-4871-A8A1-FC6DFEF9394E@gmail.com> <4A1BA8B9.4080809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:53:53 -0300 Message-ID: <7bf141790905261553u77c393eq9c8887731a8d148d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Punch-In silence From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b1fadb56cb046ad89925 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:01:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b1fadb56cb046ad89925 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, can you explain a little more about this? what does it mean "v.short"? everybody, thank you very much. ps. luis, i=B4m checking the eventide website right now. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:30 AM, andy butler wrote= : > Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man ( but not v.short punch ins, it'll > identify those as tap tempo). > > > andy butler > > --001636c5b1fadb56cb046ad89925 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy,

can you explain a little more about this?

what does it mean "v.short"?

everybody, thank you very much.

ps. luis, i= =B4m checking the eventide website right now.=A0

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:30 AM, andy butler= <akbutler@t= iscali.co.uk> wrote:
Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man ( but not v.short punch ins, it'll identify those as tap tempo).


andy butler


--001636c5b1fadb56cb046ad89925-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 23:04:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D4EB3BE8D; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1243379056; bh=S+4H6phth8IvWpAJ0094wayCMxuEfBtIhChwIfSvXa0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=x76SxxsfDU2OUBy7IbFJuoMHJzvN1s8DOYr+4iQzO/NDneMSYT0ssDqJ1XDSc4zEB okRQ+stIPPu+wdCMKbkqLxkDhrezjL4gQBGJJihDNydTrpQ9Icybl4dJ8oPMYfHOkP /bH2hAduwGMa87Xe0o7xylEVdj7tmA7jk1Sfei+Y= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: On topic: European Live Looping festivals in Antwerp, Firenze and Rome Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:04:03 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9de56$440f58e0$040313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcneVkFxByyCKKndS2y0c5us/nBLhA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: <6AARzB.A.t4G.xVHHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:04:17 +0000 (UTC) I'm getting excited when I think about it...only 4 days to go before the European Live Looping festival will start in Antwerp (Belgium) followed = by Firenze and Rome (Italy). In the mean time: I'm afraid Rick Walker and = me won't be able to send a lot of emails to the LD list. However, I'm going = to try use Twitter from my mobile (and if possible my laptop) to keep you = up to date while we are touring in Europe :) The good news is that the Antwerp festival will be recorded and filmed = so you guys can listen and view to it asap (mp3, youtube, dvd). I'm really looking forward to all this, meet with friends (again), listen to music, play live and have a wonderful time. I'm also happy some of you will visit Antwerp and Italy to see it all = live. Btw: there are still a few tickets available and you're more than = welcome to be my guest. If you need more info, please let me know. Thanks. ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ ** Ambient, experimental, live looping, soundscapes, improvisation, found sound, drones ** May 30 2009, Arenbergschouwburg Antwerp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 23:05:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 439AE3BE94; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7RrZpO8AfXtFXmmeIaFBP38y4SlJbvjlzYDeDcPLE4Y=; b=AebVaMDuMcvaZmH8Q70PQCMjt8YhwMHKss34JgjqIMTxWKzPSUbKx3TJcr2wTbl7Uu uvtyWvbb1FP3F+UF3vYxnXZH2k3GXIeLjdX1c1TA/Tc9aP1ojIyKqpT12N09LQFVTuJq FSR0fqbPNkExpTzeBfo9lluLX1X3+E2K5obXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HDLaQGjov3psQHK+Qy2IXSameCV5kqZK4ylDgLab+0hA2/FHvmrsq+EPY4pn5btQY4 mYIH1FRNcDk3bSxrR5BiOc9PBLE3+8Mma8pjiQekfHULYuoexXLTE6kFurpWZbCss8b1 4xdeRUpP74qWL9fqvQTktsV/1IyT9RGMTgVt0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905260920o57894a40r63a43f5dee66b6f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905260920o57894a40r63a43f5dee66b6f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:58:25 -0300 Message-ID: <7bf141790905261558v58631a66pa221a7553b8a8ff4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Punch-In silence From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a4350ba6c9046ad8aa51 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:05:32 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a4350ba6c9046ad8aa51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer, i think i understand what you=B4re saying. but if i=B4m correct (i = have a dl4) controlling the feedback i would affect the whole loop or if it is a little bit it would be progressive (because of the pedal controller). is there another way of doing this but more in a "destructive" way? what i really want is to add tiny, real short, pieces or bits of silence to an already sounding loop. something like "deconstructing" or un-loop. thanks. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Ariel, > > about any looper which allows you to control feedback (either primary > or secondary, to stick with EDP terminology) would allow you to do a > substitute-style punchin of silence. > > Things in stompbox format which come to mind: Boss DD20, Digitech PDS > series. > > I cannot recommend the DD20 often enough. The looper mode (called > sound on sound) is crap, but the delay effects are great fun! > There are a lot of very distinguished DD20 users on this list, and > you'll find a lot of experiences both in the archives and in the > "Tools of the Trade" section on www.loopers-delight.com > > Rainer > > --001636c5a4350ba6c9046ad8aa51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer, i think i understand what you=B4re saying. but if i=B4m correct (i = have a dl4) controlling the feedback i would affect the whole loop or if it= is a little bit it would be progressive (because of the pedal controller).= =A0

is there another way of doing this but more in a "destr= uctive" way?

what i really want is to add tin= y, real short, pieces or bits of silence to an already sounding loop. somet= hing like "deconstructing" or un-loop.=A0

thanks.

On Tue, May 2= 6, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:=
Ariel,

about any looper which allows you to control feedback (either primary
or secondary, to stick with EDP terminology) would allow you to do a
substitute-style punchin of silence.

Things in stompbox format which come to mind: Boss DD20, Digitech PDS serie= s.

I cannot recommend the DD20 often enough. The looper mode (called
sound on sound) is crap, but the delay effects are great fun!
There are a lot of very distinguished DD20 users on this list, and
you'll find a lot of experiences both in the archives and in the
"Tools of the Trade" section on www.loopers-delight.com

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer


--001636c5a4350ba6c9046ad8aa51-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 23:06:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 256103BEA4; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1243379172; bh=QvAABiQJfRXmC67lXPLa2xhIKjNcfsPurk6aSzaYkDI=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=zi8oDOhG54w+3yk4cBgAL/OmGIB9o2wStyDSPYaA2awTwL7Nxf/7Mrc36rit4SUNK L7QZIbuHpsajhEdrOiwHdV3PmSCYFOclQAkCGb0uT3KBjt6F5wdaJt4+YjSBxpQ8V5 R8bLmVH0IwnksySZ+eRwcG+gv0QPMwdtKkKINi+A= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: new Improvizone videos Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:06:03 +0200 Message-ID: <000301c9de56$8b237400$040313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcneFdcGQ1i1/kCtT0eIeA0PQMahRQAQIKrQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:06:13 +0000 (UTC) > it's the EWI USB, driving the bundled sample player, through > a variety of effects. Sounds cool. Do you bring it to Antwerp? --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ ** Ambient, experimental, live looping, soundscapes, improvisation, found sound, drones ** May 30 2009, Arenbergschouwburg Antwerp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 26 23:53:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EBEC3BE94; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243381989; bh=lAp4hODJoPYwx4vvRYw1xVQTp4SRHnpsDdhDcyG8TyA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uCRuPrpA3/qYuh+mElnxZ3yK7jxC0W+OtZDAc++orjy3EJa2FHtKzjSMCRuD98S0m5/0I9AwyrODhnax9aq73HYs9nfk88SbUvPmM8CGgNf0rDTTiG9+71xfCfK54tO1FttT6enmZf9BG/bDc3ofLLxjCEA063FJCsWOXYV5GEI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lrF/gdJ5ZJCitmmnksZRoAR3wHS04wA0QPd8UXzBZKcGqGSfa2mjeDUqCMLgnic0XTNRQ2qE6bNJM5VwtfdHaVsjNf6AZ4a3BuGT1IZP1yLPzllvfSp6qOTZsLf7VzPauCvPVY5qvpEVF0lsYX9zpjxqd3o4Pljzff160kgaYaE=; Message-ID: <5402.19042.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:53:08 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:53:10 +0000 (UTC) isnt it possible to import your own drum loops as wav files though? thought= i read something about that... > > I find the drum patterns to be kind of "hokey".=A0 > I have, at times, run the drum track out of the AUX output > to a small floor monitor to use as a click track, > though.=A0 I wish it had a simple click setting. >=20 > I've seen it work fine for beatboxing. >=20 > Really, I hope anyone who has this unit can get the best > out of it. >=20 > andy check out Rico Loop he is one dude getting really the most out of it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrOvc3MwHyDM&feature=3Drelated =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 00:08:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD75D3BE99; Wed, 27 May 2009 00:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243382917; bh=BEJ73B4aNWv8Z9E5r4pvuklzanbEqhO5/nx+5lU//Oc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=y+fU9D5wJk3dZt0WSLa1hbw31bmDu7GiJNv6fZS2wDEYAhxj5SCQlTNpMFj/hBxkIdBtWfACZ1I9fUZkLriB7LUyLhmQkIA9AoFgk9fu3gQVd8prGHfO6kZfK+3ouEOp1b3MGzL2lLfTKOZYm2WPFX0y9jBu7fOgX3PIxAewZww= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Vvho+rYEj3nThQfDYDWTDpaD5JM6pW/oCUlLcejwzT08tgUqNegt/xhgT72d7TYvxBwyDhsfS9DX54oSAtm2j6Oinc0xB/RdlBbwyb0HKj8MIXofU9vodOLq50e7e3mML/YlKRklwTREZYERwD85GZ76h+bHPZwnLBzPZnk58cg=; Message-ID: <494480.79676.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:08:37 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Punch-In silence To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:08:38 +0000 (UTC) no problem with the eventides looper for me at all after upgrading to the l= ates o.s. SW! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Todd Matthews schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: > Von: Todd Matthews > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 4:37 > The timefactor did not work well for me. > Lots of pops, clicks, strange artifacts at loops > ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix it in a > future update but when asked about it eventide said there is > no release date for an update. This was 5-6 months ago so > maybe they have updated it by now. There is a long thread on > eventide's forums about the problems with the looper > function. >=20 >=20 > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM, > L.Angulo > wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec. looper > with a replace function plus speed rate shifting >=20 > check it out >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.aspx >=20 >=20 >=20 > the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its > allright >=20 >=20 >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- Ariel Rzezak > schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Von: Ariel Rzezak >=20 > > Betreff: Punch-In silence >=20 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37 >=20 > > People, >=20 > > >=20 > > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in > silence? a >=20 > > function like substitute would do the trick of > course. >=20 > > >=20 > > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to find > one here in >=20 > > Argentina. >=20 > > >=20 > > thank you very much. >=20 > > >=20 > > very best, ariel. >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 00:30:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38E683BE9E; Wed, 27 May 2009 00:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5527 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 27 May 2009 00:30:32 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d7zRE7W8L9Pf2sT5nQThXYmSjcFdQYIpMH0yMsu8eOs=; b=hg34Gl/BkdONLqcJkQ/buI1yJUQtXnYVhUQYPxCBhsSfChR4Y+7/ub5VKvXy/ikSXe JoBAOJpSoUjPbEwfVxAySCIAomwCajXOXvscOdKK0OJaGmyhv3QR56r2kKyeNSo5HLMm J50L7EtRN1/Y6Y7Iik03pRYMryMW32LTY9t7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gV10JGkdXjAhHD7dWPbDulOpkelccujC7nwACF+WXNRaxki9jaFNrCtZg8rdI63sIu AdqZ79v+wXOtbDIf0LQ8Fny4yb+4lU46iTVSpRJZ95OR9+zTxWJhj959btEFnK+X5Zvi zSzmk5H8DNjER+9rvdeSAgrljJ8TDtCRhT638= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <494480.79676.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <494480.79676.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:30:31 -0300 Message-ID: <7bf141790905261730u62460a8dy9d93c954da95a24@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Punch-In silence From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e501779af1046ad9f3e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:30:33 +0000 (UTC) --00504502e501779af1046ad9f3e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow! i=B4ve just seen you can alter the start and end points of the loop. that=B4s attractive! regarding the pitch, can you alter that with a knob like in the old pds8000 or the memory man hazarai? i mean, pitch and rate together. i cant seem to fing any demo of the replace function. do you have an audio clip using that? mil gracias luis! On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > no problem with the eventides looper for me at all after upgrading to the > lates o.s. SW! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Todd Matthews schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: > > > Von: Todd Matthews > > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 4:37 > > The timefactor did not work well for me. > > Lots of pops, clicks, strange artifacts at loops > > ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix it in a > > future update but when asked about it eventide said there is > > no release date for an update. This was 5-6 months ago so > > maybe they have updated it by now. There is a long thread on > > eventide's forums about the problems with the looper > > function. > > > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM, > > L.Angulo > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec. looper > > with a replace function plus speed rate shifting > > > > check it out > > > > > > > > > http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.aspx > > > > > > > > the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its > > allright > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Ariel Rzezak > > schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: > > > > > > > > > Von: Ariel Rzezak > > > > > Betreff: Punch-In silence > > > > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37 > > > > > People, > > > > > > > > > > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in > > silence? a > > > > > function like substitute would do the trick of > > course. > > > > > > > > > > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to find > > one here in > > > > > Argentina. > > > > > > > > > > thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > very best, ariel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --00504502e501779af1046ad9f3e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow!=A0

i=B4ve just seen you can alter the start and end= points of the loop.

that=B4s attractive!

regarding the pitch, can you alter that with a knob like i= n the old pds8000 or the memory man hazarai? i mean, pitch and rate togethe= r.=A0

i cant seem to fing any demo of the replace function. d= o you have an audio clip using that?

mil gracias l= uis!

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, L.A= ngulo <labaloop= s@yahoo.com> wrote:

no problem with the eventides looper for me at all after upgrading to the l= ates o.s. SW!

www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--- Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gm= ail.com> schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009:

> Von: Todd Matthews <gtmatth= ews@gmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 4:37
> The timefactor did not work well for= me.
> Lots of pops, clicks, strange artifacts at loops
> ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix it in a
> future update but when asked about it eventide said there is
> no release date for an update. This was 5-6 months ago so
> maybe they have updated it by now. There is a long thread on
> eventide's forums about the problems with the looper
> function.
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM,
> L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.co= m>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec. looper
> with a replace function plus speed rate shifting
>
> check it out
>
>
>
> http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Pro= ducts/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.aspx
>
>
>
> the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its
> allright
>
>
>
> www= .myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmai= l.com>
> schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009:
>
>
>
> > Von: Ariel Rzezak <arzeza= k@gmail.com>
>
> > Betreff: Punch-In silence
>
> > An: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37
>
> > People,
>
> >
>
> > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in
> silence? a
>
> > function like substitute would do the trick of
> course.
>
> >
>
> > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to find
> one here in
>
> > Argentina.
>
> >
>
> > thank you very much.
>
> >
>
> > very best, ariel.
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
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>
>
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>





--00504502e501779af1046ad9f3e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 00:32:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 796413BE93; Wed, 27 May 2009 00:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243384326; bh=C68+Ifbk3gTAyY9fGS//YXf7dBoRmevuoNTb9e9ZkQ4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=P+WUYb92BN5+30VdfWSQLrCyRx0x/r5dCEsrSHjVmb6UFEDnkAalPNXjfEIU13ac75GCJgj6qs7k9uEFFPUchkxKq3POCZJ+99R6otrk5QDbZyyTlBbl7s+zmpH5aGl6lF/fImsGxpoC+yjiAWBYmFh2Yt5CjImAwSHpr9uE9kI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oNO2+xmxyKfVbxidzZrFencOVotcLtQAWJ2o8mRB6WjWSrIAkPK+bUQNDndJRHkR2KYQcf7BX2Xzu1SfmG9SJuIwP4vev8TmQ2k7Z3X0RoacBHRMrb+pMVqkdbmfckdVsujEuIVqZd4fOEk4bGumSsaPss/aac3HriTrSLZoPDo=; Message-ID: <100511.74222.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:32:05 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Welcome Hauke, to the live looping community To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9niot.A.iBC.HoIHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Rick tell Chris the tracks sound killer! by the way ive been trying to get into old 70s multitrack cassette record p= layers that have that sound,i started on an 80s fostex but lacked this type= of flutter any recomendations? if u see one in ebay that you have experience with send= me a link ! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Rick Walker schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: > Von: Rick Walker > Betreff: Welcome Hauke, to the live looping community > An: info@franticworld.d, "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 18:49 > Hi Hauke, >=20 > Welcome to the list.=A0 I'd love to contribute some > stuff. >=20 > I love lo fi pop and am working on some material like that > as we speak. >=20 > You might also really enjoy my wife,=A0 Christine > Wedertz's=A0 work, by the way. She's making an entire lo > fi pop record right now, playing all the instruments, > recording and producing by herself. >=20 > She's at=A0 > =A0=A0=A0www.myspace.com/donebeginner >=20 > her first four tracks are up there.=A0 She used an old > seventies cassette recorder to record her vocals. > It has terrible wow and flutter..........it sounds great. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Anyway,=A0 I produce the world's largest live looping > festival every year in Northern California in the third week > of October. >=20 > This year, the Y2K9 International Live Looping Festival > will feature 50-55 artists from 5-10 countries in > 6 days in 4 cities.=20 > If you put a live project together using live > looping,=A0 I'd love to encourage you to apply to > perform. >=20 > Applications will be accepted after the 1st of August (and > not before) by sending > an email with this in the subject line: >=20 > Y2K9 SUBMISSION:=A0 =A0 (your name here)(your country > of residence) > and all your contact information in the body of the email >=20 > You can send that to >=20 > looppool (at)=A0 cruzio=A0 (dot)=A0 com >=20 > Welcome to the list and we look forward to hearing your > creativity. >=20 > yours, in the loop, > Rick Walker > www.looppool.info/bio.htmlWe >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 00:59:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B3C43BE87; Wed, 27 May 2009 00:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243385948; bh=fTJSQLTLhKbCl+lETWtYB3HT/vvjPS+di0jMZTQmILQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lIMMkWp99o9iV1fsW0WTzJbh+JSKO5FF31n8rUIH++ww+8cEO6+Br0crPC5PntP3m6Y60BVrBZW0e3EyLN+0g/5j82sYFNHwY2UIY5J22xMpECjooGzsLhLiYFEaeIX0f7rzcJlmDFzu3N12L4iHApYoi+NZl+QLVcIILyYlHCw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PMYhLi5YQosYxHM90dcWSrtZeD30iRKmItYp19sq3vkUZIBAxPCS5M0hk+tcJIWQ+dX/aKViaAKHR2zWVuiTzeUtHkZnsdsOkvMTdSfbN7vkAP79R8hgKeMK1eTXwIkCi0GdYoIyhEDcx+QQRn0uu1+YMq2CB144MayE48JlRXI=; Message-ID: <942373.48150.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:59:08 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Punch-In silence To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:59:10 +0000 (UTC) claro q si Ariel! puedes alterar ambos- comienzo y final del loop manualmente o con el pedal = d expresion al igual q el el pitch=20 y el sonido de los delays es lo mejor q he escuchado! aunque me gusta mas e= l sonido del delay filtro de el DL4 tiene la ventaja tambien q es midi asi q puedes sincronizarlo ritmicamente = con otros o acesar todos los programas con un controlador midi lo q todavia le falta es q no puedes incluir los delays en el loop,y el loo= p tambien no syncroniza bien via midi si lo controlas con una caja de ritmo= ,he estado tratando de hacer esto con mi adrenalinn III sin suerte;-( todavia no he hecho grabaciones propias utilizando la funcion "replace" has= ta ahora he usado solo sus delays con mi guitarra acoustica y los loops con= mi echoplex aqui me puedes ver usandolo y escuchar brevemente el sonido del vintage del= ay mi preferido!(para la voz utilize el DL4;-) t lo recomiendo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA saludos Luis --- Ariel Rzezak schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: > Von: Ariel Rzezak > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 17:30 > Wow!=A0 > i=B4ve just seen you can alter the start and end > points of the loop. > that=B4s attractive! > regarding the pitch, can you alter that with a > knob like in the old pds8000 or the memory man hazarai? i > mean, pitch and rate together.=A0 >=20 > i cant seem to fing any demo of the replace > function. do you have an audio clip using that? > mil gracias luis! >=20 > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, > L.Angulo > wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > no problem with the eventides looper for me at all after > upgrading to the lates o.s. SW! >=20 >=20 >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- Todd Matthews > schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Von: Todd Matthews >=20 > > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence >=20 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 4:37 >=20 > > The timefactor did not > work well for me. >=20 > > Lots of pops, clicks, strange artifacts at loops >=20 > > ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix it in > a >=20 > > future update but when asked about it eventide said > there is >=20 > > no release date for an update. This was 5-6 months ago > so >=20 > > maybe they have updated it by now. There is a long > thread on >=20 > > eventide's forums about the problems with the > looper >=20 > > function. >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM, >=20 > > L.Angulo >=20 > > wrote: >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec. > looper >=20 > > with a replace function plus speed rate shifting >=20 > > >=20 > > check it out >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.as= px >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its >=20 > > allright >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > --- Ariel Rzezak >=20 > > schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Von: Ariel Rzezak >=20 > > >=20 > > > Betreff: Punch-In silence >=20 > > >=20 > > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > >=20 > > > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37 >=20 > > >=20 > > > People, >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in >=20 > > silence? a >=20 > > >=20 > > > function like substitute would do the trick of >=20 > > course. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to > find >=20 > > one here in >=20 > > >=20 > > > Argentina. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > thank you very much. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > very best, ariel. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 01:28:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2987B3BE93; Wed, 27 May 2009 01:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1vr5Bmu/f8a65DDzgaGCkto3APeZM7CReEy9U+DTUr8=; b=UFwRJJ4eKaL9QauU6x/cWMPh7WUFGrI7EsmozqHhDd8ybzT4/naVoJa4/ZiUlAI8a/ gFYDohMCHad/3dsKCywBDFIhnPRYDXWa283mD9tiFwqDGSm26X1w2TA5revC0nUWLvk5 ymidMlC5vXgaq4d832B9w+e+EyNeFBTZfIvIY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WHabVZP9OZtMCGYHE76ydhiONrArcddmoInDO+PIy3VKVSRfIW3u295zS9VOmAKx0Y 5HrQnyg+L/RUFz1nE+1nWAQxbTTKrjsmlBBRZJhNd+TOw2D1CKuegn6ABoOlbGH5mZRE Bwtg6yAMuZZUNUvUHEM9b8tlTMZF/5GGi8jhU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01d001c9dd1d$e6b15060$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <01d001c9dd1d$e6b15060$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:28:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New "Rigs" videos featuring Thomas Dimuzio From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:28:51 +0000 (UTC) I was all: >> I just uploaded a series of 4 new "Rigs" videos, this time featuring >> Thomas Dimuzio and his unique sampler/feedback setup. and Christo Jota was like: > It is noise! Is it art ? Yup - Tom's a noise musician. In the genre "noise music", the focus is on developing loud, chunky, saturated, often abrasive sounds. When done well, it can be a refreshing head-cleaner, or a stimulating physical presence of sound. Live sets in this genre tend to be blissfully short - like 10-15 minutes. The musicians come in, say what they have to say, and get out. In the field Thomas is considered to be very good at what he does. He's more ambient than most harsh noise - longer form reverby sounds with a lot of gradually shifting textures. The Rigs videos will not all be noise musicians, but they'll all be folks who have unusual approaches to making music. btw...here's a video of my most recent gig, in which I try to play a harsh noise set. The sounds in the beginning are very typical harsh noise (except they're usually faster and less organized). I'm happy with the stuff that starts at around 4:30. Lots of fun playing with the clipping of the room's speakers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCldC4rZDiw Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 01:35:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 302623BE98; Wed, 27 May 2009 01:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/4U5xxgq5TpLVasmSY2NJYjQ9oEiKNciSup1KTRHlEQ=; b=s+vnbLFVYSsmBf/s8bQaHGHCIH4rl0G1wxHbbfPSI4uO1ShOINDjsGct7+cdCSRUOr HGZi8lhId2y7pBTeOQhmnECLHjUpZ0UkdKSQv4hnDTeQdsBCO0O+2IcbeNxNHTntwhDD Mh6FWW4fxYWr/LTIQuoTNYs3oRY4ETJe64gNg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qF3Z+Gg7SPD5F6pb3kVlYz2gpEJq21PJKETp/XL1OBvvtUHcb6JwKQKpbh9raoiWRa 6oTkLpXrxqhocRcY9Btq3nn9aSun0oJCnHzZoobFUoGHD404K7t//PkEFixZ/XAMbYhG SZegN2AI1jUV14ZZ0AeCd66+Ya2ILEcgPwubo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <942373.48150.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <942373.48150.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:35:51 -0300 Message-ID: <7bf141790905261835g23f92c75n1049088a4b293b19@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Punch-In silence From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b8ef12a415046adaddd7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:35:53 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b8ef12a415046adaddd7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beautiful clip luis! Nice sounding delay indeed! lo que te preguntaba sobre cambiar el pitch y rate era no en si como en el DL4 que cambia inmediatamente al doble o la mitad sino si esto se puede hacer progresivamente. thanks! On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:59 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > claro q si Ariel! > puedes alterar ambos- comienzo y final del loop manualmente o con el peda= l > d expresion al igual q el el pitch > y el sonido de los delays es lo mejor q he escuchado! aunque me gusta mas > el sonido del delay filtro de el DL4 > tiene la ventaja tambien q es midi asi q puedes sincronizarlo ritmicament= e > con otros o acesar todos los programas con un controlador midi > lo q todavia le falta es q no puedes incluir los delays en el loop,y el > loop tambien no syncroniza bien via midi si lo controlas con una caja de > ritmo,he estado tratando de hacer esto con mi adrenalinn III sin suerte;-= ( > todavia no he hecho grabaciones propias utilizando la funcion "replace" > hasta ahora he usado solo sus delays con mi guitarra acoustica y los loop= s > con mi echoplex > aqui me puedes ver usandolo y escuchar brevemente el sonido del vintage > delay mi preferido!(para la voz utilize el DL4;-) > t lo recomiendo! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA > > saludos > > Luis > > > > > > > --- Ariel Rzezak schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: > > > Von: Ariel Rzezak > > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 17:30 > > Wow! > > i=B4ve just seen you can alter the start and end > > points of the loop. > > that=B4s attractive! > > regarding the pitch, can you alter that with a > > knob like in the old pds8000 or the memory man hazarai? i > > mean, pitch and rate together. > > > > i cant seem to fing any demo of the replace > > function. do you have an audio clip using that? > > mil gracias luis! > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, > > L.Angulo > > wrote: > > > > > > > > no problem with the eventides looper for me at all after > > upgrading to the lates o.s. SW! > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Todd Matthews > > schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: > > > > > > > > > Von: Todd Matthews > > > > > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence > > > > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 4:37 > > > > > The timefactor did not > > work well for me. > > > > > Lots of pops, clicks, strange artifacts at loops > > > > > ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix it in > > a > > > > > future update but when asked about it eventide said > > there is > > > > > no release date for an update. This was 5-6 months ago > > so > > > > > maybe they have updated it by now. There is a long > > thread on > > > > > eventide's forums about the problems with the > > looper > > > > > function. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM, > > > > > L.Angulo > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec. > > looper > > > > > with a replace function plus speed rate shifting > > > > > > > > > > check it out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its > > > > > allright > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Ariel Rzezak > > > > > schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Von: Ariel Rzezak > > > > > > > > > > > Betreff: Punch-In silence > > > > > > > > > > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > > > > > > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37 > > > > > > > > > > > People, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in > > > > > silence? a > > > > > > > > > > > function like substitute would do the trick of > > > > > course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to > > find > > > > > one here in > > > > > > > > > > > Argentina. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very best, ariel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --001636c5b8ef12a415046adaddd7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beautiful clip luis!

Nice sounding delay indeed!

lo que te preguntaba sobre cambiar el pitch y rate era no e= n si como en el DL4 que cambia inmediatamente al doble o la mitad sino si e= sto se puede hacer progresivamente.=A0

thanks!

On Tue= , May 26, 2009 at 9:59 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

claro q si Ariel!
puedes alterar ambos- comienzo y final del loop manualmente o con el pedal = d expresion al igual q el el pitch
y el sonido de los delays es lo mejor q he escuchado! aunque me gusta mas e= l sonido del delay filtro de el DL4
tiene la ventaja tambien q es midi asi q puedes sincronizarlo ritmicamente = con otros o acesar todos los programas con un controlador midi
lo q todavia le falta es q no puedes incluir los delays en el loop,y el loo= p tambien no syncroniza bien via midi si lo controlas con una caja de ritmo= ,he estado tratando de hacer esto con mi adrenalinn III sin suerte;-(
todavia no he hecho grabaciones propias utilizando la funcion "replace= " hasta ahora he usado solo sus delays con mi guitarra acoustica y los= loops con mi echoplex
aqui me puedes ver usandolo y escuchar brevemente el sonido del vintage del= ay mi preferido!(para la voz utilize el DL4;-)
t lo recomiendo!

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA

saludos

Luis






--- Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com= > schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009:

> Von: Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gma= il.com>
> Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence
> An: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 17:30
> Wow!=A0
> i=B4ve just seen you can alter the start and end
> points of the loop.
> that=B4s attractive!
> regarding the pitch, can you alter that with a
> knob like in the old pds8000 or the memory man hazarai? i
> mean, pitch and rate together.=A0
>
> i cant seem to fing any demo of the replace
> function. do you have an audio clip using that?
> mil gracias luis!
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM,
> L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.co= m>
> wrote:
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> no problem with the eventides looper for me at all after
> upgrading to the lates o.s. SW!
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>
>
> www= .myspace.com/luisangulocom
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>
>
> --- Todd Matthews <gtmatthe= ws@gmail.com>
> schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009:
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> > Von: Todd Matthews <gt= matthews@gmail.com>
>
> > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence
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> > An: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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> > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 4:37
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> > The timefactor did not
> work well for me.
>
> > Lots of pops, clicks, strange artifacts at loops
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> > ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix it in
> a
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> > future update but when asked about it eventide said
> there is
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> > no release date for an update. This was 5-6 months ago
> so
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> > maybe they have updated it by now. There is a long
> thread on
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> > eventide's forums about the problems with the
> looper
>
> > function.
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> >
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> >
>
> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM,
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> > L.Angulo <labaloops@yah= oo.com>
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> > wrote:
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 sec.
> looper
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> > with a replace function plus speed rate shifting
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> >
>
> > check it out
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivisio= n/Products/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.aspx
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but its
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> > allright
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > --- Ariel Rzezak <arzezak= @gmail.com>
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> > schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009:
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> > > Von: Ariel Rzezak <a= rzezak@gmail.com>
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> >
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> > > Betreff: Punch-In silence
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> >
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> > > An: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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> >
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> > > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37
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> >
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> > > People,
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in
>
> > silence? a
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> >
>
> > > function like substitute would do the trick of
>
> > course.
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to
> find
>
> > one here in
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> >
>
> > > Argentina.
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > thank you very much.
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> > > very best, ariel.
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--001636c5b8ef12a415046adaddd7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 02:10:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11DAC3BE94; Wed, 27 May 2009 02:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=t2gulRwT+oR2/5FT3IiaqNAqqKEYNdjOPKOY6+Eo7dc=; b=VSN/6J+0kPcQE0s6cL/wxHjT3XVMVgixxeBoL50d52ikEqpoESUvrLNv733hGt25Mi HCe0379Xjt9l6j+7Bs7eLtUNsNmbK+EyJDjQ0u8UFocoi9WDQjsHRj1O2pyj23gP+LrA l0c2HHQRxWEbYY/A1s2JL6H5TMfpuJjRdPyaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=guJSAc7LpWNKrjFc8F8y8MSq5gavi/bZQADmaAUNnKrpfqkuDJYe1JueguOHrZ4HA3 PQ2W/x1U5DyGUX6Qlff/g4S4eP/hw/GlgigfaiZr1B7dfBS8GS/FH1xo9cxk3ICWQxQq 0+XNjd6gtmwb5wCOUqPxZetFRADhB5wKM+ri0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:10:36 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d078658bf5ddf038 Message-ID: <101191640905261910k6d7646d8k22bd001c2f972b3e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: My Alarm Clock From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636283c2a597e44046adb593a Resent-Message-ID: <54GsiD.A.hlE.cEKHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 02:10:36 +0000 (UTC) --001636283c2a597e44046adb593a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Listen at http://www.ubetoo.com/Index.taf?_PageId=14758&Title=My-Alarm-Clock&Artist=Warren-Sirotafor a truly trillin' experience. --001636283c2a597e44046adb593a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Listen at http://www.ubetoo.com/Index.taf?_PageId=14758&Title=My-Alarm-Clock&Artist=Warren-Sirota for a truly trillin' experience.
--001636283c2a597e44046adb593a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 02:19:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5887C3BEA9; Wed, 27 May 2009 02:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:19:08 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: RE: RC-50 Impressions In-reply-to: <5402.19042.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAD8/HEoYih4Q/2dsb2JhbACKUIMgsQWPWYQLBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,256,1241406000"; d="scan'208";a="488599406" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 02:19:08 +0000 (UTC) i've been using an RC-50 for a year now. set it up with a number of looped song sections and also used it for looping on the fly. the drum patterns are varied but there's no option to add fill patterns. Nevertheless, if i'm stuck with the RC's patterns, the challenge is to create loops and play play over them and 'do things' creative enough to render the repetitive pattern less obvious in the blend - so it takes a backseat to the riffing and simply supports If i'd known it only liked to master in a MIDI connect to my drum machine, I probably would have bought anyway on the Ebay auction. I mentioned this before on list when i was asking for advice on trying to sych my DR 670 with the 670 as master, the RC-50 unlike many drum machines uses tempo settings which can be set wiht 10th intervals (ie. 120.0,120.1,120.3.....and so on). The drum machines i've seen stick to whole number tempo settings and i wonder whether this difference in tempo setting has anything to do with the problem of syching the RC to external devices via MIDI. Either way, it likes to be in the MIDI driver's seat. If ever a truism held with me about the RC-50 or any other looper, it's 'garbage in - garbage out' for these multi-tracks on the floor. So, I figure it's wise to just use it to it's capacity and play to it's strengths vs complain about what it can't do. as an aside - before i bought the RC-50 I came across Jonny Wright's youtube video and i'll let that speak for itself interms of the RC-50's value within live performing. here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYvTKVTzU8 . cheers from east coast Canada, Mike -----Original Message----- From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] Sent: May 26, 2009 8:53 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions isnt it possible to import your own drum loops as wav files though? thought i read something about that... > > I find the drum patterns to be kind of "hokey".  > I have, at times, run the drum track out of the AUX output > to a small floor monitor to use as a click track, > though.  I wish it had a simple click setting. > > I've seen it work fine for beatboxing. > > Really, I hope anyone who has this unit can get the best > out of it. > > andy check out Rico Loop he is one dude getting really the most out of it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOvc3MwHyDM&feature=related From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 03:14:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03FBD3BE7C; Wed, 27 May 2009 03:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=yHXCIXF8dw/wu4xXib7oHpW5SeVCJomzGgLi8rQ/wOw=; b=f5OBHFHitVxB5K6Ddc7Lv74J4SnRR5ShNhcIZFmwGypQPez2TdI4uS2uXyJQbV1Hrp LyRhDRhB/I6FPH1bfpsYJTVGqDW3mUA+NAweYQzLH3xp22kEVfWjUGCRFXZJgMJ5AUGI VQgT1aTwK/QDKQZ3c1yNzqXXYnXJ2xRuh/du8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=HOjbaV22ge4XcntljcMXOkpSmAwdZoP9j19aCtTcEDyNcj3X0VbbH0qGhnHObaDrG0 +BJhgnXpgZhbvTf5srnL5uJNnFsTmILe84MzLuUPlbajLkpgGbpOHaNLpggP+onObIt2 5chkvddskzyCmUX3/xCYT/ongdqncL3qQ11YA= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A1BA8B9.4080809@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Punch-In silence Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:14:37 -0300 References: <95ACC287-8C8D-4871-A8A1-FC6DFEF9394E@gmail.com> <4A1BA8B9.4080809@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <4hNSsC.A.LIG.hALHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 03:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Andy, i understand you meant "very short" now. i've been reading the stereo memory man manual and cant find anything about replacing existing audio altthoug i've read about the minimum of half a second for the looper to "understand" the switchings. can you explain a little bit about how you do the "silence" punch ins with the hazarai. do you have any audio examples of this? sorry for the questions but this will define my next purchase. thank you very much, ariel. On May 26, 2009, at 5:30 AM, andy butler wrote: > Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man ( but not v.short punch ins, it'll > identify those as tap tempo). > > Boss RC-50 has a specific "Overdub Mode" for this. > ...but everybody hates it :-) > > andy butler > > > Ariel Rzezak wrote: >> People, >> is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching in silence? a function >> like substitute would do the trick of course. >> I know the Echoplex but it's impossible to find one here in >> Argentina. >> thank you very much. >> very best, ariel. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 03:44:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65FFA3BE87; Wed, 27 May 2009 03:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:27:57 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Two new videos on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <8-1gyD.A.J1G.GcLHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 03:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted two video pieces taken from a recent live performance with I did with a serendipitous revival of The Leap of Faith Trio, Leap of Faith was a long term project (usually a trio) with Glynis Lomon, cello and vocals, and Dave Peck, reeds. For this set, Glynis and Dave were joined by myself on video mixing and Noam Senders, percussion, neys, and vocals. A lot of the imagery used in Industrial Song comes from subject matter that is not normally thought of as 'beautiful'. The same holds for a lot of the timbres that Leap of Faith uses in their music. We are all interested in exploring the beauty to be found in unlikely places -- be it junk by the railroad tracks or audio textures created by extended musical technique. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L8-0YHD9Sc Abstract Journey is an excerpt from the same live performance -- The video is derived from images taken of many different subjects, and includes many images of flowers and birds, transformed to match the abstraction of the musical improvisations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OkcJgwbq2w BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 04:09:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42BE93BE86; Wed, 27 May 2009 04:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4U8pnM/MownNAuVVlHwTQzcrJ3UnBjq/pCPathp9Jxs=; b=bjuKzH/vkdDOinL2kO2TDRQiBxg4PgnNKB98UGJIuBud+Smtc5vJSO9iE3rq76r+Vh Lcdeh3Cyy2gOjZCm0Tfu2G0BKspXWdKr/0Ig2U6TavzPn+UXCkoKJWMj2lVoRCC5RqeV 0WORCkfaPEoz8i0LmLPt5m3Tni+naWiQE3gk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G9ALMlhsV2WdrmCVbOBqb0gvWqiEfli4toFDQEdBEwWISdXL7XkNg2kxI+jgCQ7wqb 5759TjHT7lLDj8qYREAbDoJMDWNDKP3PA/hLHdW6BdAYYk/DnfK8X2PDFrmmm25BX30Q YiLGHrmoK6sMidETc8Kj0ySYdpw/EN1NZec4A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640905261910k6d7646d8k22bd001c2f972b3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640905261910k6d7646d8k22bd001c2f972b3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:09:37 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905262109y4a0d12ebr91c45e3ee775faef@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: My Alarm Clock From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b6da017908046add03e2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 04:09:39 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b6da017908046add03e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warren that's really neat - love the texture modulation from the ornate at beginning and moving towards more dense in the end. Do you wake to it? Jim On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Listen at > http://www.ubetoo.com/Index.taf?_PageId=14758&Title=My-Alarm-Clock&Artist=Warren-Sirotafor a truly trillin' experience. > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b6da017908046add03e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren that's really neat - love the texture modulation from the ornate= at beginning and moving towards more dense in the end. =A0Do you wake to i= t?

--001636c5b6da017908046add03e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 04:53:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C6783BE80; Wed, 27 May 2009 04:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243399979; bh=awzjmRhLb1F4EDTVj341CtEfnRI4L/lcbYBRBTWwqfg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=g1QDEm4NPAmyHfFzgK62xkLS4ownCpeWkuzyM6UQc5IjY3l4yXrv1Dy3LPedX58Rn6o4KTFCA8Ssg0G/ehnEEWSy14KcobP4YGVGPbtAaWtzuqcZjzkqFU8/yv/QsXIaPzXFsBQihh4+ec8ZmYQoYoLtAYGau6XZ5b+4X9iWBo8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wdlr+4hTIZwa7VG/JHvHInokhV1TZ4csCgriyLKSOv4EI1pUKw9IYlE9nhMSx0tTJuu15pHLgEkCA4HbnEQXkZ7SGNTSFBWHJIxJYKElJpoo3wCiYTECum0RcjBraYAihpsGp0F68VeX5sVut6+3MAwJJzxKU76fTsvPvVUD/fk=; Message-ID: <185164.7344.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 04:52:58 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Punch-In silence To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 04:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Gracias Ariel,si hay presets para el cambio de pitch y rate, por ejemplo c= romatico,5ths,7ths etc. la verdad q tengo q explorarlo mas yo eso tambien,por ahora estoy muy ocupa= do con el looper gratis mobius;-) saludos Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Ariel Rzezak schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: > Von: Ariel Rzezak > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 18:35 > Beautiful clip luis! > Nice sounding delay indeed! >=20 > lo que te preguntaba sobre cambiar el pitch y > rate era no en si como en el DL4 que cambia inmediatamente > al doble o la mitad sino si esto se puede hacer > progresivamente.=A0 >=20 > thanks! > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:59 PM, > L.Angulo > wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > claro q si Ariel! >=20 > puedes alterar ambos- comienzo y final del loop manualmente > o con el pedal d expresion al igual q el el pitch >=20 > y el sonido de los delays es lo mejor q he escuchado! > aunque me gusta mas el sonido del delay filtro de el DL4 >=20 > tiene la ventaja tambien q es midi asi q puedes > sincronizarlo ritmicamente con otros o acesar todos los > programas con un controlador midi >=20 > lo q todavia le falta es q no puedes incluir los delays en > el loop,y el loop tambien no syncroniza bien via midi si lo > controlas con una caja de ritmo,he estado tratando de hacer > esto con mi adrenalinn III sin suerte;-( >=20 >=20 > todavia no he hecho grabaciones propias utilizando la > funcion "replace" hasta ahora he usado solo sus > delays con mi guitarra acoustica y los loops con mi > echoplex >=20 > aqui me puedes ver usandolo y escuchar brevemente el sonido > del vintage delay mi preferido!(para la voz utilize el > DL4;-) >=20 > t lo recomiendo! >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA >=20 >=20 >=20 > saludos >=20 >=20 >=20 > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- Ariel Rzezak > schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Von: Ariel Rzezak >=20 > > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence >=20 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 17:30 >=20 > > Wow!=A0 >=20 > > i=B4ve just seen you can alter the start and end >=20 > > points of the loop. >=20 > > that=B4s attractive! >=20 > > regarding the pitch, can you alter that with a >=20 > > knob like in the old pds8000 or the memory man > hazarai? i >=20 > > mean, pitch and rate together.=A0 >=20 > > >=20 > > i cant seem to fing any demo of the replace >=20 > > function. do you have an audio clip using that? >=20 > > mil gracias luis! >=20 > > >=20 > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, >=20 > > L.Angulo >=20 > > wrote: >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > no problem with the eventides looper for me at all > after >=20 > > upgrading to the lates o.s. SW! >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > --- Todd Matthews >=20 > > schrieb am Di, 26.5.2009: >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Von: Todd Matthews >=20 > > >=20 > > > Betreff: Re: Punch-In silence >=20 > > >=20 > > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > >=20 > > > Datum: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009, 4:37 >=20 > > >=20 > > > The timefactor did not >=20 > > work well for me. >=20 > > >=20 > > > Lots of pops, clicks, strange artifacts at loops >=20 > > >=20 > > > ends/beginning. Supposedly they are going to fix > it in >=20 > > a >=20 > > >=20 > > > future update but when asked about it eventide > said >=20 > > there is >=20 > > >=20 > > > no release date for an update. This was 5-6 > months ago >=20 > > so >=20 > > >=20 > > > maybe they have updated it by now. There is a > long >=20 > > thread on >=20 > > >=20 > > > eventide's forums about the problems with > the >=20 > > looper >=20 > > >=20 > > > function. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM, >=20 > > >=20 > > > L.Angulo >=20 > > >=20 > > > wrote: >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Ariel the eventide timefactor has a little 12 > sec. >=20 > > looper >=20 > > >=20 > > > with a replace function plus speed rate shifting >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > check it out >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/TimeFactor.= aspx >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > the stomp switches arent the most silent ones but > its >=20 > > >=20 > > > allright >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > --- Ariel Rzezak >=20 > > >=20 > > > schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > Von: Ariel Rzezak >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > Betreff: Punch-In silence >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 21:37 >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > People, >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > is there a PEDAL looper capable of punching > in >=20 > > >=20 > > > silence? a >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > function like substitute would do the trick > of >=20 > > >=20 > > > course. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > I know the Echoplex but it's impossible > to >=20 > > find >=20 > > >=20 > > > one here in >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > Argentina. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > thank you very much. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > very best, ariel. >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 05:26:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8AB63BE86; Wed, 27 May 2009 05:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wZ/9SorUHvTmdhaCoVS1IKl3LqTK8U3Py3kaej8CkQU=; b=f/qkraKyxiIyYXTxz8UXREGlvW6PXjpPyPeDBEX2phgLblGmhC+MkXXoSnvvGEqEEn yZqITrwF4yMkuCRPUvnhEIleyU8au2TGjLMWTxi0TqBRgUuteeJ+xmzr7QJrpFZFdl2G o/gXAvSebHhzK17IFDZsz/AhDpt4kfb5t9iZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=C5/3TQ1mX2FbPX9n15PFAVzQeUiaX17XZCrRZQciH19587JpXCQIwToYPvYkeJVSzS St5AyruZ808IUr63pzrYmxSkbVAewM227mOGS21WgkIRA+1UOL2Z8NQq6kR+JJL2uob8 gUcsCEEWYJDzi/lx3J5GbrjvE9P4XPPDaU7es= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <000301c9de56$8b237400$040313ac@PIPO> References: <000301c9de56$8b237400$040313ac@PIPO> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 06:26:10 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8fcd3d961b38af5d Message-ID: Subject: Re: new Improvizone videos From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9M-GLD.A.wdB.z7MHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 05:26:11 +0000 (UTC) yes, that's the plan! os. 2009/5/27 Sjaak : >> it's the EWI USB, driving the bundled sample player, through >> a variety of effects. > > Sounds cool. 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= --_8a63ee94-2aef-41ff-a7d7-7b4d1c48b20b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 08:06:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DECA3BE85; Wed, 27 May 2009 08:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205460166/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhUCAP+RHEpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAIzxWCPIFPBYhS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,258,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205460166" Message-ID: <4A1CF785.1010004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:19:17 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Punch-In silence References: <95ACC287-8C8D-4871-A8A1-FC6DFEF9394E@gmail.com> <4A1BA8B9.4080809@tiscali.co.uk> <7bf141790905261553u77c393eq9c8887731a8d148d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7bf141790905261553u77c393eq9c8887731a8d148d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 08:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Ariel Rzezak wrote: > Andy, > > can you explain a little more about this? > > what does it mean "v.short"? "very short" the button used is multifunction, short taps are used for tap tempo (time-stretch) if you hold the button down for long enough it goes into Overdub/Replace depending on the setting of the 'Repeats' knob. andy > > everybody, thank you very much. > > ps. luis, i´m checking the eventide website right now. > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:30 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man ( but not v.short punch ins, it'll > identify those as tap tempo). > > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 08:16:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C40A3BE8B; Wed, 27 May 2009 08:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sw2eTYkTRE1y/YV3jNRZ3Tc6Va7s3Tb3Uqs+mOJ2ed8=; b=x11N9Udqdr4qdAWAE7mvjOGCYmcHLOdBFrM642dXrPzMTWO35KDfHovZ73SxolejRZ HGYBD8lwmN/o4aYKs2ogVsNbA0+HsvQ5lwrxm4sMzAsrUmXt9/9VD3E7ZKo4hcVx5n+4 tvoRGIbJP8l37/ei2Jy/XgaywpIh9hwp86jLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=MrStasBu7CE2prW1hEIQJlBJP2RfTxxA7GKAww3VzO4xYAsN4vlFBFx3EGIUqigbob rLh34oV1JUodRamNhLcp5Uhg/uGEjhp2iWeUyDlw4YfZzD3n3avhySndjafgmSLA7ifN aXETT81gLZK1nWZn1l2tAS8GqL6IYGGQBZejQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:16:17 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905270116m1ca6aba5t43b5a9fb930d9d5d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Punch-In silence From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 08:16:19 +0000 (UTC) > Rainer, i think i understand what you=B4re saying. but if i=B4m correct (= i have a dl4) controlling the feedback i would affect the whole loop or if = it is a little bit it would be progressive (because of the pedal controller= ). I don't exactly understand what you're saying, either ;), but perhaps this can clear this up: The DL4 you mention (in looper mode) has a fixed feedback setting during overdub which will only very gradually. I use the DD20 only in delay mode. So if you suddenly turn feedback to 0 and back to 1, you would punch-in silence. The problem: you need to turn the knob fast enough. I haven't actually opened my DD20, but it seems to be a pot resistor, not a rotary encoder, so it should be easily to jury-rig the thing and attach a foot switch which would allow you to punch in really short bits with sharp edges. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 08:35:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49D763BE89; Wed, 27 May 2009 08:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202144220/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhUCANiXHEpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAIvmmPbYQLBYhS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,258,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202144220" Message-ID: <4A1CFE1C.3030805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:47:24 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Matthias Grob Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions References: <5402.19042.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <5402.19042.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 08:35:04 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > isnt it possible to import your own drum loops as wav files though? thought i read something about that... yes, but the timestretch is "interesting", the onboard drum machine can play at different tempos without having to time stretch. > > check out Rico Loop he is one dude getting really the most out of it! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOvc3MwHyDM&feature=related He demo's the technique that Ariel wants to use here. (possibly his music's different to Ariel's :-) and a useful technique: While playing one phrase, he does an overdub onto another. Then we he drops out the first phrase, that overdub becomes his backing. andy > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 08:44:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 620523BE8E; Wed, 27 May 2009 08:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205078124/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhUCAGuaHEpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAIzkKECwWIUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,258,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205078124" Message-ID: <4A1D0048.7090703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:56:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Punch-In silence References: <95ACC287-8C8D-4871-A8A1-FC6DFEF9394E@gmail.com> <4A1BA8B9.4080809@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5Di8u.A.BmG.j1PHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 08:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Ariel Rzezak wrote: > Andy, i understand you meant "very short" now. > > i've been reading the stereo memory man manual and cant find anything > about replacing existing audio altthoug i've read about the minimum of > half a second for the looper to "understand" the switchings. > During Overdub, the new sound is added, and the old loop is reduced to a level set by the "Repeats" knob (which could also be called feedback). Turn Repeats down to zero, and you can knock holes in your loop. What really helps is if you can give full info about what you want to achieve, and what you're setup is. Do you work with rhythmically accurate loops? What's the musical effect you wish to achieve? Do you have a programmable midi controller? Otherwise our time is spent guessing what you need. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 08:46:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CAB83BE93; Wed, 27 May 2009 08:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205482188/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhUCADqaHEpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAIzkGECwWIUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,258,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205482188" Message-ID: <4A1D00CD.50108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:58:53 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Punch-In silence References: <7334ca1b0905260920o57894a40r63a43f5dee66b6f6@mail.gmail.com> <7bf141790905261558v58631a66pa221a7553b8a8ff4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7bf141790905261558v58631a66pa221a7553b8a8ff4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 08:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Ariel Rzezak wrote: > what i really want is to add tiny, real short, pieces or bits of silence > to an already sounding loop. something like "deconstructing" or un-loop. > so probably the EH unit I mentioned is useless to you. RC-50 does this. In a cheaper looper, you'll be looking for something that has a feedback control. A short time of zero feedback punches holes in the loop like you want. Some devices don't fade the loop unless you're overdubbing, so would give you the ability switch the feedback control on/off using Overdub. A device andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 09:05:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FD353BE92; Wed, 27 May 2009 09:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=O5hCSrvwEuvEMJFejmPIin4tk0xBiXekWeEN/w03K74=; b=V0uanAX3aW7RtsDGRltF4w2ldV5K44g14dIqedOs7G7WKkCJrQbmYZ7iMZ9Hobr3Pp F4X0hjW+deHTnPrLWG6nvl9vg8arZMcYG7QYrH6INX8WK+wiJJhKqz5+cNJ6De/Qg1IU PEN90voUEbwKGqVYmrx5j5h8WinsrGPoWHRBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NtwUHSurF9Efut/93jb1fv+Acs+Csl/hdfadmlYx4zulnBDs+l/3tzTQl7wRILqPhi 7VtiAXeYMpL+k8Fbl1aBoNhQ3ZSN24AT0WvtjMgGAcpAdrs0APXwLj+5HTwzmAPPv9yr xHBQhicXgMmeVuUv0XYQQON3efTrXOe35CYw8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7bf141790905261558v58631a66pa221a7553b8a8ff4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905260920o57894a40r63a43f5dee66b6f6@mail.gmail.com> <7bf141790905261558v58631a66pa221a7553b8a8ff4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:05:40 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905270205h35b9ff5fu2a51c63a8e045e8b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Punch-In silence From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:05:40 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > what i really want is to add tiny, real short, pieces or bits of silence to > an already sounding loop. something like "deconstructing" or un-loop. When you are saying "adding", are you fine with the loop becoming longer that way? Because that would bring some strong musical changes. If you don't want the loop to become longer I guess you rather want to "substitute" a part of sound with the equal length of silence. Not being nitty-picky here, just trying to understand what you are actually after. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 09:10:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 049CC3BEA9; Wed, 27 May 2009 09:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090527091056372.5AFEC1C00081@mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: <242EB275-FCEE-4946-BC95-1AD2ABE49959@con-brio.com> From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: new Improvizone videos Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:10:55 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <5wIpm.A.oTH.hOQHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Enjoyed the videos Os. I see you weren't just playing the laptop on this occasion! Brought back good memories from my Improvizone outing last year. Hope to see you guys again soon...... Steve On 26 May 2009, at 15:38, Os wrote: > http://vimeo.com/album/96175 > > same line-up as last gig. > > check out part 8 for me wigging out on wah-wah EWI :) > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 09:26:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD5E03BE89; Wed, 27 May 2009 09:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nKAiQ6sSB8eiTjhNGnnrkQmOfqiNtPdMRARbQODpmZ0=; b=M0b5bwyAceJXygRWc/gN0wnSWDCmDirC0iFWOONMjPKzo9ym1rosO4y+3MPJX/822C jPgKiv4tMvE97LLM6mR/fedVQINddV7hSknhJIwoOG5Rsm9vIpZmD4qdQbZ5SLYLn/sF nZDL6xKn6/noEAv81LZ1M4Kgjb5jsqf9RWO48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HG+AEW88aSnpyoQuZ77w2eKLraXKbULVXSrsd6vasBhgtfX/5A+kMZ5JnG0onD+i8C wtQdfycPwNTP6alDk3/RLVjxrkcHMp69sZ/NlKyIeS6tL9W4xi6rcm//zeboIkdlgNty VqsuNEARk6trg2vzh9HO4U0ShxE3aDRCWZ+p4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <01d001c9dd1d$e6b15060$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:26:45 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905270226j7c5e9010h1281ce3c8f90fb47@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New "Rigs" videos featuring Thomas Dimuzio From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:26:45 +0000 (UTC) That was great, Matt! Regarding 4:30 it's like The Real Thing starts around there. And it gets really cool by 6:30 and leading out. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I'm happy > with the stuff that starts at around 4:30. Lots of fun playing with > the clipping of the room's speakers. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCldC4rZDiw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 10:32:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 697C63BE89; Wed, 27 May 2009 10:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZHrlVGfmdbwVWVojQLqmNXSFgKKWV9tMYUCcw0xILZ4=; b=GR5vVIuVWb+xoPvHU4Mph6U2rcDLCzsWWOZGeWdvz8ysAzRcUzav74oy55l6iDtk8f FagIPF92esG/SB2tkqXu65bRaQZ5woYHy9Vl8US89wtDinjDAzm+O94EwEGsqBsNiGju 17wkMSiMrXtWcAgjUZo0/oaXehbLSutz5DyAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UPPkQ6u/iIuSBybklxKzMPSnH8TRcaykH+/ZICr7LfRUhBFSM7ixX/IFgtbf8ZLLdm qXhZFvE529Npa7FcRX4NK7/QfZECEBjdYh/d+HHkUmE6RuggE+7Miv9PO/EbYZ5NlE9u 8fcNJDT4FcHaf+PZFuoHPAyggTnuc10Nvy8P8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60905262109y4a0d12ebr91c45e3ee775faef@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640905261910k6d7646d8k22bd001c2f972b3e@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60905262109y4a0d12ebr91c45e3ee775faef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 06:32:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 559e2059840fc53e Message-ID: <101191640905270332p1df43c62ncfb6e82190599e0d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: My Alarm Clock From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362835b6eb9ed6046ae25d83 Resent-Message-ID: <6n_dqD.A.qdB.abRHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:32:58 +0000 (UTC) --0016362835b6eb9ed6046ae25d83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim, Thanks so much for the close listening. Unfortunately (or fortunately) - I have no need for an alarm - the birds do a pretty good job of it every day at about 5:15! But I actually think this tune would make a terrific alarm clock! - they make them with customizable with your own sounds these days? someone must. Warren On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Warren that's really neat - love the texture modulation from the ornate at > beginning and moving towards more dense in the end. Do you wake to it? > Jim > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> Listen at >> http://www.ubetoo.com/Index.taf?_PageId=14758&Title=My-Alarm-Clock&Artist=Warren-Sirotafor a truly trillin' experience. >> > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016362835b6eb9ed6046ae25d83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim,

Thanks so much for the close listening.

Unfortunatel= y (or fortunately) - I have no need for an alarm - the birds do a pretty go= od job of it every day at about 5:15! But I actually think this tune would = make a terrific alarm clock! - they make them with customizable with your o= wn sounds these days? someone must.

Warren

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:09 = AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Warren that's really neat - love the texture modulation from the ornate= at beginning and moving towards more dense in the end. =A0Do you wake to i= t?




--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti= st.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http= ://www.warrensirota.com
--0016362835b6eb9ed6046ae25d83-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 11:10:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E27E63BE89; Wed, 27 May 2009 11:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8557dc9b-696d-4f8c-be1a-c9ab4f66d26a_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: My Alarm Clock Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:10:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <101191640905261910k6d7646d8k22bd001c2f972b3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640905261910k6d7646d8k22bd001c2f972b3e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2009 11:10:32.0635 (UTC) FILETIME=[C07BA8B0:01C9DEBB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:10:32 +0000 (UTC) --_8557dc9b-696d-4f8c-be1a-c9ab4f66d26a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool=2C I like it :-) =20 Date: Tue=2C 26 May 2009 22:10:36 -0400 Subject: My Alarm Clock From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Listen at http://www.ubetoo.com/Index.taf?_PageId=3D14758&Title=3DMy-Alarm-= Clock&Artist=3DWarren-Sirota for a truly trillin' experience. --_8557dc9b-696d-4f8c-be1a-c9ab4f66d26a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool=2C I like it :-)
 =3B
Date: Tue=2C 26 May 2009 22:10:36 -0400
Subject: My Alarm Clock
From:= wsirota@wsdesigns.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Li= sten at http://www.ubetoo.com/In= dex.taf?_PageId=3D14758&=3BTitle=3DMy-Alarm-Clock&=3BArtist=3DWarren-= Sirota for a truly trillin' experience.
= --_8557dc9b-696d-4f8c-be1a-c9ab4f66d26a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 11:43:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38CE83BE90; Wed, 27 May 2009 11:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+D9NRfHTdfJ2ke9GCK//j5A+HZGE1H1UBlwygTtypEQ=; b=S1Mu96XTx3z0qyIclokCwnNIg+1I2JEOUgx7xzjrHtQj7ASbXBmvxvVsoyOtQLmh11 zlJHglApXzIbg0tBAJzxfrCkm8RU9O0ck1ze6LCEPjgEewkT21ZOW4B9w/YbExW0Ue9O hX0hvaI9YYe1B02trFAv7nTTA8dDj+LrK47XQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ioXonccw65DEGG++V0YHoXMxFuwVUa/25ipuiKiBvVHs5L6XVwRbWHg2JKlzBqvNlX J4C3MsQ/yEXtsl79Q8g/DqpstqAvRh+avKW86X2LfqzXQmHfibAIOzH7oXeLAHLmZ626 ONk7hPIC+RwRmYeHr4ByxVD2jrILI+uQ9euqU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <242EB275-FCEE-4946-BC95-1AD2ABE49959@con-brio.com> References: <242EB275-FCEE-4946-BC95-1AD2ABE49959@con-brio.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 07:43:47 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8e1c754f8bd58d53 Message-ID: <101191640905270443p35eb4c0fwfed9bf2376a4d4fb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new Improvizone videos From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e88c634f16d046ae35b6b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:43:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016361e88c634f16d046ae35b6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit enjoying this a lot. i'll probably be listening in bits and pieces for a few days (that's a compliment - my attention is pretty divided these days, but more than 2 tastes from me means i like it). listening to part 2 now, liking the laid back feel and the way everyone is listening to and complimenting each other. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Steve Bingham wrote: > Enjoyed the videos Os. I see you weren't just playing the laptop on this > occasion! Brought back good memories from my Improvizone outing last year. > Hope to see you guys again soon...... > > Steve > > > > On 26 May 2009, at 15:38, Os wrote: > > http://vimeo.com/album/96175 >> >> same line-up as last gig. >> >> check out part 8 for me wigging out on wah-wah EWI :) >> >> >> cheers, >> os. >> >> -- >> os@collective.co.uk >> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >> >> > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016361e88c634f16d046ae35b6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable enjoying this a lot. i'll probably be listening in bits and pieces for = a few days (that's a compliment - my attention is pretty divided these = days, but more than 2 tastes from me means i like it). listening to part 2 = now, liking the laid back feel and the way everyone is listening to and com= plimenting each other.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Steve Bingh= am <sbingham@= con-brio.com> wrote:
Enjoyed the videos Os. I see you weren't just playing the laptop on thi= s occasion! Brought back good memories from my Improvizone outing last year= . Hope to see you guys again soon......

Steve



On 26 May 2009, at 15:38, Os wrote:

http://vimeo.com= /album/96175

same line-up as last gig.

check out part 8 for me wigging out on wah-wah EWI :)


cheers,
os.

--
os@collective.co.u= k
http://www.da= rkroomtheband.net/
http://www.= expert-sleepers.co.uk/






--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ube= too.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warrensirota.com
--0016361e88c634f16d046ae35b6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 11:53:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 871493BE8D; Wed, 27 May 2009 11:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NaT6LV0BF597S0UHT5c3ku1WN5vPs9KMFpMopJMZgqE=; b=VDRpKXUwJETfcUeCjpCg2KbfO6qTgNGd8Jfm6OkaKRoJCAnybVBJDvqPKqGoimOQEM 9aLhO7+hSL/GVKNb1hWY5KpMjKwnOykT2CO2v2+JinL3pmDOZMeVIRYNAzbNgYZQ+QJ6 ND5Xid5cROL6hmNOxNCbi/QFX5xSL1bIOu8U0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=keZO5lh2VjfwwnEAggE53gFTkZ800QZWBp+i9i577D04hWZ4/qWF4nBNY801MQVvwv vWsX2O3v8SN/tva/TkvxhHDO96xnOlIRofaqn1blGbAJpzGHDTCkU2Sc7XGBFKXZoKkE ECkAu0Lro1duSpYGh2t93DmB5InLlamyEK4f4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640905270443p35eb4c0fwfed9bf2376a4d4fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <242EB275-FCEE-4946-BC95-1AD2ABE49959@con-brio.com> <101191640905270443p35eb4c0fwfed9bf2376a4d4fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 07:53:24 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 812f5f0b6e2d5999 Message-ID: <101191640905270453h1bd6132ag3f2de036bb9fa071@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new Improvizone videos From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f2dba186b8046ae37d08 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:53:25 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f2dba186b8046ae37d08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit really liking the part around 14:00 in pt2 where you have this nice groove and totally ummm.... untethered solo with the metallic sounds over it. very, very nice. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > enjoying this a lot. i'll probably be listening in bits and pieces for a > few days (that's a compliment - my attention is pretty divided these days, > but more than 2 tastes from me means i like it). listening to part 2 now, > liking the laid back feel and the way everyone is listening to and > complimenting each other. > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Steve Bingham wrote: > >> Enjoyed the videos Os. I see you weren't just playing the laptop on this >> occasion! Brought back good memories from my Improvizone outing last year. >> Hope to see you guys again soon...... >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> On 26 May 2009, at 15:38, Os wrote: >> >> http://vimeo.com/album/96175 >>> >>> same line-up as last gig. >>> >>> check out part 8 for me wigging out on wah-wah EWI :) >>> >>> >>> cheers, >>> os. >>> >>> -- >>> os@collective.co.uk >>> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >>> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163630f2dba186b8046ae37d08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable really liking the part around 14:00 in pt2 where you have this nice groove = and totally ummm.... untethered solo with the metallic sounds over it. very= , very nice.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:43= AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
enjoying this a l= ot. i'll probably be listening in bits and pieces for a few days (that&= #39;s a compliment - my attention is pretty divided these days, but more th= an 2 tastes from me means i like it). listening to part 2 now, liking the l= aid back feel and the way everyone is listening to and complimenting each o= ther.


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Steve Bingh= am <sbingham@con-brio.com> wrote:
Enjoyed the videos Os. I see you weren't just playing the laptop on thi= s occasion! Brought back good memories from my Improvizone outing last year= . Hope to see you guys again soon......

Steve



On 26 May 2009, at 15:38, Os wrote:

http://vimeo.com= /album/96175

same line-up as last gig.

check out part 8 for me wigging out on wah-wah EWI :)


cheers,
os.

--
os@collective.co.u= k
http://www.da= rkroomtheband.net/
http://www.= expert-sleepers.co.uk/






--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_A= rtistId=3D6679
http://www.warren= sirota.com



--
Warren
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--00163630f2dba186b8046ae37d08-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 12:57:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 688D43BE90; Wed, 27 May 2009 12:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CSWddeObQa+7sjwR4Lw3KuOATz4aYVuuTHW6hnzeDlM=; b=sdEgXR9J+gAwvs+IBKWdOTHW/qIQsboQrN/6Z/4qH2FWbuJuGDS/AqRiTlsJTarPHC NOD1KfsWKcYN8LbKKyJ74JxxNZyakjgcqKBwWS3ppcnsnhutjpoMllwQgLdE7lQqSwF4 5o6zgytMVK4vqnQiLK6aunQlXaqCmdWdSYDGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MI2Q9J5ufeH9GRBk1VZISXjVjy7f4tks8sZ+1Q/aNElkJAqqtJFsTEgCqIoJVCOX2B w5Oe5oK5hWpDHJRbu1n67TQb2W/zaGlrfbG4spoiHQmuXdfCkD0q1J7MdLwusG5Jd2DE Q1GaErDyB4U3fJ8RgnlU2tu+THzmhkXBNMwPc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:50:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f26fd45d019a046ae449e5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 12:57:02 +0000 (UTC) --001485f26fd45d019a046ae449e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok, so my current setup is this... triaxis preamp tc g-force eventide eclipse split into tc d2 delay looperlative (with kaoss pad and lexicon mpx-1 in aux sends) all running into a rack mixer and into a mesa 20/20 poweramp and marshall cabs i've been contemplating ditching all the rack fx and replacing them with a mac laptop (keeping the triaxis and 20/20) my system at the moment is preset based - i have about 60 sounds available with cc pedals for variation, with the g-force and eclipse working in tandem the lp-1 is controlled by a separate midi controller and i have a control surface as well (which also controls the d2 and lexicon) i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop so i'm thinking about which plugin host will work best, bearing in mind that i don't really want to have to launch loads of separate programs on startup and i need everything to be synced to midi clock and i also need to be able to control it all via midi i'm thinking of using guitar rig for the basic fx, with extra plugins (including reaktor) for more sonic manipulation....with sooperlooper and augustus loop running in parallel and feeding more plugins ableton live looks like a good bet, but i'd really just be using the mixer...but it's nice and stable. so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on one midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can control everything the way i am now any other plugin hosts (for audiounits) that might be worth looking at? is mainstage worth considering? any help would be greatly appreciated! sim --001485f26fd45d019a046ae449e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, so my current setup is this...

triaxis preamp
tc g-force
e= ventide eclipse

split into
tc d2 delay
looperlative (with kao= ss pad and lexicon mpx-1 in aux sends)

all running into a rack mixer= and into a mesa 20/20 poweramp and marshall cabs

i've been contemplating ditching all the rack fx and replacing them= with a mac laptop (keeping the triaxis and 20/20)

my system at the = moment is preset based - i have about 60 sounds available with cc pedals fo= r variation, with the g-force and eclipse working in tandem
the lp-1 is controlled by a separate midi controller and i have a control s= urface as well (which also controls the d2 and lexicon)

i'd like= ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop

so i'm thinki= ng about which plugin host will work best, bearing in mind that i don't= really want to have to launch loads of separate programs on startup and i = need everything to be synced to midi clock and i also need to be able to co= ntrol it all via midi

i'm thinking of using guitar rig for the basic fx, with extra plugi= ns (including reaktor) for more sonic manipulation....with sooperlooper and= augustus loop running in parallel and feeding more plugins

ableton = live looks like a good bet, but i'd really just be using the mixer...bu= t it's nice and stable.

so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on on= e midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can control ever= ything the way i am now

any other plugin hosts (for audiounits) that= might be worth looking at? is mainstage worth considering?

any help would be greatly appreciated!

sim



--001485f26fd45d019a046ae449e5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 13:35:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E81AB3BE94; Wed, 27 May 2009 13:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202304153/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMBAD3eHEpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAIzwKEDAWIUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,259,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202304153" Message-ID: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 14:47:54 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Simeon Harris wrote: > ok, so my current setup is this... > > i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop > > so i'm thinking about which plugin host will work best, bearing in mind > > ableton live looks like a good bet, but i'd really just be using the > mixer...but it's nice and stable. but quite restrictive in terms of routing midi, I hear. One of our loop5 testers is fighting this right now. (hi Ricky :-) > > any other plugin hosts (for audiounits) that might be worth looking at? > is mainstage worth considering? > Plogue Bidule is pretty easy for hardware type patching, as it allows you to freely connect whatever you want. It also allows you to freely sync anything to anything else. For instance, you could have a bunch of fx synced to Augustus, and a different bunch synced to Sooperlooper. I don't know any other host that allows this on a mac (and of course, it would allow you to sync those 2 loopers if needed). > > so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on one > midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can control > everything the way i am now in Bidule that's trivial The other possible advice is.. if you have a rig that works for you, stick with it :-) Having endless software possibilities won't in itself open up interesting pathways. Those are more easily found by pushing the limits on the gear you have. I've no idea if that applies to you tho' :-) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 13:43:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AC6E3BE99; Wed, 27 May 2009 13:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=21gMzUwBLCbe0dlAGc2kuLVTGotDB+pcOQoi7rZp+l4=; b=SwHX1HaYMBZEdvBa1EiOtnMfucKKdiqGwk4es2t9ESkdaRxUJ9Y6dUjUJ3anECtdeI EwTQVy1CDZtSXMrtMHX3hmnKvoL6SBXmrJ+HNRQUs5r5HOhlwXM7OjWK4ekML+bgBjdM XaA/iG554aQ2Jo1i6/msrgjmYxnyKIG5dG6tQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=EoFsHdYWz9fHTCYiMIaJugQUlU+x3uTaHfYt8DA/QtfWDiHM1IjxLhH0Xx6heJN+b0 CKaDUO38ER/OQPtYwWHmb2JavB2aCT4xlW0UjnDNP1nibelrE4rCMTYEO2+OlyPI0Hgd k8+TM4R1FxrCWjUyhYRRzz5KljlnwgcR/428Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A18E091.2030803@cruzio.com> From: magicicada Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:37:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: recommendations for great science fiction written in the last 10 years? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151757469e5d6d5f046ae4f243 Resent-Message-ID: <4t7eIB.A.KiG.1NUHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:43:17 +0000 (UTC) --00151757469e5d6d5f046ae4f243 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I third the American Gods, book! Really a great read. Samuel Delany has a whole collection interesting sci-fi: I just read 'The Einstein Intersection' and 'Nova' both of them I enjoyed quite a bit. and please don't forget Philip K Dick. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Some recent sci-fi/fantasy I've enjoyed: > > Neil Gaiman: > American Gods > Anansi Boys > > Jonathan Lethem: > Gun With Occasional Music > Wall of the Sky, Wall of the Eye > > Susannah Clarke: > Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norell > > Neal Stephenson: > the Diamond Age > Snow Crash > > David Mitchell: > Cloud Atlas > > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday. > > > > Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction > > that has been written in the last ten years. > > > > I used to read a lot and have loved Card, Varley, Pohl, Bear, > Robinson, > > et. al. > > > > I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know who to > > go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at least > 20 > > years ago. > > > > Thanks, > > Rick > > > > > > --00151757469e5d6d5f046ae4f243 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I third the American Gods, book! Really a great read.

Samuel Delany = has a whole collection interesting sci-fi:
I just read 'The Einstei= n Intersection' and 'Nova' both of them I enjoyed
quite a bit.

and please don&= #39;t forget Philip K Dick.



On Tu= e, May 26, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:=
Some recent sci-f= i/fantasy I've enjoyed:

Neil Gaiman:
American Gods
Anansi Boys

Jonathan Lethem:
Gun With Occasional Music
Wall of the Sky, Wall of the Eye

Susannah Clarke:
Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norell

Neal Stephenson:
the Diamond Age
Snow Crash

David Mitchell:
Cloud Atlas

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I want something to read on my plane ride to Europe on Wednesday.
>
> Can you folks recommend me some really good science fiction
> that has been written in the last ten years.
>
> I used to read a lot and have loved Card, =A0Varley, =A0Pohl, =A0Bear,= Robinson,
> =A0et. al.
>
> I haven't read anything in the past ten years so I don't know = who to
> go for and google searches only seem to bring up things written at lea= st 20
> years ago.
>
> Thanks,
> Rick
>
>


--00151757469e5d6d5f046ae4f243-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 13:45:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C9C93BEA0; Wed, 27 May 2009 13:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090527134528808.C56611C00081@mwinf3429.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 14:45:28 +0100 References: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:45:30 +0000 (UTC) This reply from Andy made me realise just how useful it is to be a member of this list: I had no idea that Bidule could sync up all these different plugins etc. thanks Andy! Steve On 27 May 2009, at 14:47, andy butler wrote: > Simeon Harris wrote: >> ok, so my current setup is this... > >> i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop >> so i'm thinking about which plugin host will work best, bearing in >> mind > >> ableton live looks like a good bet, but i'd really just be using >> the mixer...but it's nice and stable. > > but quite restrictive in terms of routing midi, I hear. > One of our loop5 testers is fighting this right now. > (hi Ricky :-) > >> any other plugin hosts (for audiounits) that might be worth looking >> at? is mainstage worth considering? > > Plogue Bidule is pretty easy for hardware type patching, > as it allows you to freely connect whatever you want. > > It also allows you to freely sync anything to anything else. > For instance, you could have a bunch of fx synced to Augustus, > and a different bunch synced to Sooperlooper. > I don't know any other host that allows this on a mac > (and of course, it would allow you to sync those 2 loopers if needed). > >> so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins >> on one midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can >> control everything the way i am now > > in Bidule that's trivial > > The other possible advice is.. > > if you have a rig that works for you, stick with it :-) > Having endless software possibilities won't in itself > open up interesting pathways. Those are more easily > found by pushing the limits on the gear you have. > > I've no idea if that applies to you tho' :-) > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 14:03:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3A853BE9E; Wed, 27 May 2009 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4407 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 27 May 2009 14:03:50 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0dU/UkdX46vrO46tASwISUyj7FC7HyZ+/uor4SOSX58=; b=JF2GS++wn2YRsSLdQGeclqWwXI9xXOkLGR5uYKi6cIaTNLfw1D9giT74f6PEhEAcdq 4mL1vUCCjifyZUi654pntfhsDyGL5I+OimwcH78CWrl80W4FtlRxIPuALjMbWFbxqAnm DGRJOERHQeWg/y2D4lwm//LDJu5ACKM8u+Lz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=OiOeQO2Cbmd0O2EVTsRmuLOvKH4XFSchSh8hKSZPLzNq6gofXOSse3frTg64rHfEZD v5WWG3GRB0dMlcI2Znx+hBdbZg4IsLOH270eyWBXMzhPuzvPxMRb+DHRiIDBBYfMkwBF 1rxDjFD+yNHAw8EMvaeJs4jzeFUdW2w0dy9K4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 14:57:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f87bbce8e66a046ae53723 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) --001485f87bbce8e66a046ae53723 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the reply andy i've just spent the last hour messing about with bidule and got some nice results right away, although some of the more "advanced" options like sync and midi routing will take me a while to figure out. seems like it's the best option so far and the most flexible (and the most ugly!) the main reasons for wanting to switch are that the rack is really heavy and i'm not getting any younger....and i really love what you can do with plugins these days...especially the audiodamage and sugar bytes stuff etc. way beyond what's available with hardware. also trying to sync lots of different bits of hardware and keep them synced is also a bit of a nightmare at times. i'll keep researching....my rig sounds like the voice of god at the moment and there's a software update for the eclipse coming soon as well, so it'll take a fair amount of convincing to make me take the leap...but it's inevitable....eventually... many thanks sim On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Steve Bingham wrote: > This reply from Andy made me realise just how useful it is to be a member > of this list: I had no idea that Bidule could sync up all these different > plugins etc. thanks Andy! > > Steve > --001485f87bbce8e66a046ae53723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for the reply andy

i've just spent the last hour messing = about with bidule and got some nice results right away, although some of th= e more "advanced" options like sync and midi routing will take me= a while to figure out. seems like it's the best option so far and the = most flexible (and the most ugly!)

the main reasons for wanting to switch are that the rack is really heav= y and i'm not getting any younger....and i really love what you can do = with plugins these days...especially the audiodamage and sugar bytes stuff = etc. way beyond what's available with hardware. also trying to sync lot= s of different bits of hardware and keep them synced is also a bit of a nig= htmare at times.

i'll keep researching....my rig sounds like the voice of god at the= moment and there's a software update for the eclipse coming soon as we= ll, so it'll take a fair amount of convincing to make me take the leap.= ..but it's inevitable....eventually...

many thanks

sim

On Wed, May 27= , 2009 at 2:45 PM, Steve Bingham <sbingham@con-brio.com> wrote:
This reply from Andy made me realise just how useful it is to be a member o= f this list: I had no idea that Bidule could sync up all these different pl= ugins etc. thanks Andy!

Steve


--001485f87bbce8e66a046ae53723-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 14:59:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 896C73BE99; Wed, 27 May 2009 14:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V+R6PfXWI9qVoINX7a0T0wrf0u93F+UOAiOdgUlPuGQ=; b=gEIs1tB7XHbeXTHp+EmPxolUwpBlvM9rS3Rw+JUB+W6Jic0e5NhZuprPnsHt8u3j2J +HWP2VkT2FurLTkpEdByAVtKbwdKL8n3z0k4m2oNmyFl5SMkSx1XQUKQiC+AaBN3WqKq 4Wn2DXovubPNyiqxZPH59sMDc/Zn11D/oOOGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j5HaEP7QYoeVNdVVh56FN6/18y6HdG/att1sAkphonrSSpXmTaoMm7Q6Bd5crWaroT uo54EF4MuMbblygok7dHVJwp/GEwS7ftcxHheGs2nImMkn+nkx512AH1XQ3pk8J5LCqa 3aEb3ATs/AycfmPswvqRFaSfPRxwWMN7mTWdw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:59:13 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905270759r27fcef3ekaaf3b060c0271970@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 14:59:14 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop > > so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on one > midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can control > everything the way i am now Yes, that would be perfectly possible in general although maybe not in every detail. But with software you don't need to think the old hardware biased way like "sending MIDI into a plug-in". Modern software has its own protocol for controlling plug-ins besides the universal VST and AU protocols. Both Live, Mainstage and Bidule becomes more powerful and easier to use if you take advance of the host's interface instead of just sending MIDI into the looper plug-in. Since you say "recreate" your present rig and since this rig is based on effect presets that you call up by floor pedals my guess is that Mainstage will serve you best. Maybe also Bidule. These two hosts can host a big number of alternate effect chains for the musicians to play through and they both off-load the CPU all patches not in use. This is not the case with Ableton Live, but Live might be better for bringing in pre-recorded audio and MIDI synth/sampler clips to mix into your guitar playing. I don't dare to say this will not also be possible with Mainstage in the future, but today Mainstage is just a pedalboard/effect rig substitute, not a DJ-rig as well. Bidule has the most advanced data routing options (its own data, MIDI, VST and AU control data), Live is quite good (I guess Andy's friend just hasn't discovered that yet) and Mainstage "just works". Although Maisntage won't let you do any advanced or spectacular routing, it is faster to work with than Bidule if you for example want to set up a patch where your expression pedal works as a volume swell pedal that also freezes a reverb or delay in the "no input" position (i.e. you may use the pedal to swell in slices of your playing to replace parts that is looping in the effect. I use these kind of effect programming with both Bidule and Mainstage, often almost the same patches, and they both sound better to me and are simpler to handle in Mainstage (I'm a player rather than a programmer). My own first choice is Mainstage because of the good sound and the easy handling. Bidule was good for me under Windows but the Mac version has not yet gotten multi core support to work sound crystal clear with the plug-ins I want to use. Best plug-ins for you to replace your Eventide Eclipse would be the SoundToys Native Bundle. http://www.soundtoys.com/ I had been eying them for long time but when they released AU versions I finally picked them up afte recommendations from musicians I've heard play stuff I like in this typical textural department (Steve Stevens, Eyvind Aarset). I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it should sync to MIDI clock"? All software mentioned here does that. Some loopists though, especially the EDP christened, like to use the looper to generate the tempo that all effects and other gear has to follow. That's the way I'm used to play and this works well with both Mainstage and Bidule. Today it works well also with Live if you use live 8's new Looper plug-in for the tempo detection. You can use it just as a dummy to set the tempo and catch your audio in a better looper like SL or Mobius. If you are used to the LP1 SooperLooper may be fine for you. For EDP guys Mobius may feel more familiar (option to cue many loops on each of the looper channels). I'd like to agree with Andy - don't even try to estimate "the endless options with software" because that way you will never get up there to make music. Start out by envisioning exactly what you want to do and then set up a laptop system that works that way. Then use that as the platform to expand your tools slowly in the software world, one new trick at a time. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 15:08:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 407B23BEB6; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=C6dtuJHUvkQbFjJkMBlJtSIV7+9KTWW/kRqcZ+9Fzmw=; b=Cf6l4BGZAu3E0U4JRmT1n7wnT2TprnawiAb8xQWsjAGQtkwg4nBXeV6M/OOCC7hjJ8 lxU/Ou9jYF77Z85bdbyrYVxqsYKXKyJRtjuD8i2cwYjl5WoAh4qn7eYEhX+rNSNgoCn4 DuAZCBD3ibrN2Vqu/9GiYwHv/yp8xsp0eldKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Mm1OVM4K6t9Z3Z6ZbU3FmfJhKrR7tYKkJYYW0JrOFFFuppp7SFF398RgOvlwo51Ng/ olcErVfi/tPdLErATvarbnP4kCY5yIuliVXVxk+IUgbms8lAVcdV9pzaEyO5H9Gk9rCj 64LGHJK/Hzy0+vPfR9y+ewMX5sRh5czkLY9Z0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905270759r27fcef3ekaaf3b060c0271970@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905270759r27fcef3ekaaf3b060c0271970@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9c5e6dbb37046ae637eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:08:34 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9c5e6dbb37046ae637eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the detailed reply per...i hadn't even considered the sound quality issues having played around with bidule for a bit, i can see the power of it, but man you need a degree just to set up a midi metronome (watched the vid on vimeo). it's not really that "user friendly", is it? i don't really need clever routing options...but i do need sensible cpu usage, ease of external control and the ability to run a ton of stuff at once without it falling over i know exactly what i want to achieve, so i'll check out mainstage a bit more and see if it appeals... sim On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop > > > > so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on one > > midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can control > > everything the way i am now > > Yes, that would be perfectly possible in general although maybe not in > every detail....... --0016363b9c5e6dbb37046ae637eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for the detailed reply per...i hadn't even considered the sound = quality issues

having played around with bidule for a bit, i can see= the power of it, but man you need a degree just to set up a midi metronome= (watched the vid on vimeo). it's not really that "user friendly&q= uot;, is it?

i don't really need clever routing options...but i do need sensible= cpu usage, ease of external control and the ability to run a ton of stuff = at once without it falling over

i know exactly what i want to achiev= e, so i'll check out mainstage a bit more and see if it appeals...

sim


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:59 = PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop
>
> so my questions are - will i be able to set up= a bunch of plugins on one
> midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can control > everything the way i am now

Yes, that would be perfectly possible in general although maybe not i= n
every detail.......

--0016363b9c5e6dbb37046ae637eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 15:29:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 177853BEAE; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1243438191; bh=s5B6WfOLF1Wji3osWIMXQv0zQYCVuBxXXJla4zfyHoI=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=Eqg8w4Y97P00m6j5MvH33o9lU0yjaOqCrPgCjPhG4NhlcXXfOSkK57Pg8H7kxBvyH gRH/5I7Gdp9kMehGpFeFK3r1r7Fl4CIuR/zBHQKgdAL4YFNglKRE9jkH5eHK2fQoBw pn6piEvEGMAzaKDiXnUOIyDGMAsEslVvRNJhLlPc= Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:29:50 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sim, The only reason I partly switched from hard to soft is that I needed a co= mpact (travel friendly) and flexible setup for live gigs. So far, my Mac and Motu have replaced a big rack with a TC D2, a DD-20, a= mixer/DI and a compressor. It has not replaced my LP1 for a several reas= ons: I'm used to it, it has some features I really like and getting used = to Mobius or Superlooper would take me too much time at the moment. But I= do use a Augustus loop, that's one of my favourite plugins. It sounds re= ally well, organic and although I haven't tested that, you can run multip= le instances of Augustus to create a multi-track looper. But I think the = best option is not set it up in Mainstage but in Bidule. My mainstage review + high quality plugins: both synths and effects + flexible and complex live setups are possible + works with channel strips and busses like a live mixer: flexible and ea= sy - responds to any incoming midi message on any channel, can't send midi m= essages, limited filtering, no channel re-routing - midi hangs every now and then , I can't use it live a midi panic switch= . I don't the cause yet, could be a plugin and not caused by Mainstage - you can't use a AU-plugin like Augustus or Mobius to generate midi cloc= k and MS crashes when it detects multiple midi clocks --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 15:45:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F4D13BEB2; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090527154525795.C222E1C00086@mwinf3424.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:45:25 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:45:27 +0000 (UTC) I'm interested that Per seems to not have a problem using Mainstage, saying it "just works", but Sjaak can't use it live because of midi crashes. I gave up on Mainstage a while ago because of this crashing issue: It would suddenly say something like 'unsupported midi input detected'. Can't remember the exact message. There was a lot of discussion of this on the SL forum, with no-one, as far as I know, really finding an answer. Maybe this has changed now, and I'd certainly be interested in using Mainstage instead of the full Logic 8 for certain things. Per - do you ever get the crashing midi issue? I seem to remember that you were part of the SL forum discussion. Cheers, Steve On 27 May 2009, at 16:29, Sjaak wrote: > Hi Sim, > The only reason I partly switched from hard to soft is that I needed > a compact (travel friendly) and flexible setup for live gigs. > > So far, my Mac and Motu have replaced a big rack with a TC D2, a > DD-20, a mixer/DI and a compressor. It has not replaced my LP1 for a > several reasons: I'm used to it, it has some features I really like > and getting used to Mobius or Superlooper would take me too much > time at the moment. But I do use a Augustus loop, that's one of my > favourite plugins. It sounds really well, organic and although I > haven't tested that, you can run multiple instances of Augustus to > create a multi-track looper. But I think the best option is not set > it up in Mainstage but in Bidule. > > My mainstage review > + high quality plugins: both synths and effects > + flexible and complex live setups are possible > + works with channel strips and busses like a live mixer: flexible > and easy > - responds to any incoming midi message on any channel, can't send > midi messages, limited filtering, no channel re-routing > - midi hangs every now and then , I can't use it live a midi panic > switch. I don't the cause yet, could be a plugin and not caused by > Mainstage > - you can't use a AU-plugin like Augustus or Mobius to generate midi > clock and MS crashes when it detects multiple midi clocks > > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > __________________________________ > Scarlet schrapt download limiet! > Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR > Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 15:47:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D3573BEC2; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iUhQ4DCmJCynBOW4PiZuZlQcuTB4v00W07XSnfysvk8=; b=dJFXk9oGm4lKBnL3rVOPXPqv1VaEp49WxMW1gjwbZZzGpGbhmvoAQU+zv+ofHzqi1p bDAYHljMOth+sj3Ds1wzbuSF8uw4Cfi7MkKr9mx9QgPbX/o3AaZRoO+QkdtFtm9fzzNl U8lND+fpZxcnf9JvUQtbRD1bv5Fq5X1EIBL8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LYZvnkK2l6GsV25s8XB8UAvpuNlvOdbbNGMe0V03cVTUYGHLMJaRQGI7dVDaBU6dMY aSYaPf9teRq/WqD7fs44yha9dLoKJcnzakUMgS87shK0WchsYn4IordGZLh1i5gD4ELn lB7qaU9SEvPJ2SMSoqnfOi1UNxwBGujVybwwc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:46:59 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905270846w18ee5fd7xc7c746f9ddc9f6ae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Just some comments based on my experience that seems to differ a bit: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Sjaak wrote: > My mainstage review > - responds to any incoming midi message on any channel, can't send midi messages, limited filtering, no channel re-routing Mainstage does not at all work along the old hardware based concept of "sending MIDI into plug-ins that are programmed to react". What Mainstage offers is a software concept based on two steps: 1) The user creates his own on-screen set of graphic control objects that directly corresponds to the physical control hardware used. These screen objects has MIDI Learn capabilities and connect with incoming MIDI events from the physical control hardware. This graphic interface may not be changed often once it has been set up (not until you buy a new MIDI mixer, MIDI pedal-board etc) 2) Next phase is to set up the binding between the on-screen objects and parameters in the software. When doing this you can apply data scaling, reverse a parameter's response on a pedal's range etc, etc. Mainstage > - you can't use a AU-plugin like Augustus or Mobius to generate midi clock and MS crashes when it detects multiple midi clocks I've been doing that for eight months now with no problem. The way I do it is to let the Looper plug-in send its MIDI Clock out through the OS X IAC Bus (virtual midi patches in a Mac). Then I click tic the box in Mainstage that says "Get Tempo from MIDI input". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 15:57:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48E0C3BEC1; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SEF87fDKlIYE0GLiMqxge+M6hpZ09UHxFnzu88A50Gc=; b=qamHJHirIHzX1ldYwVeCkVBYModGnMbIeSkSlESKhHYMvcKx0cj5OpqCCSRtRbuXbL 9rRKTwgcSCaFUhOHhML6rdavLFGNCzjUvGiUrunmZfzX4KdLqL3LVBkvKooSoJAMiuyp iVVkZv4xVgiUFTpoe/QIeZf6b4xUJmv+aYAQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uCuTl5wOebYjejx8YSQYpgEnDRYaU9dIhtbgsmYuY+sua/GJ5AF/5mM1gDH82Q//Ey dgujgCE9h0Y8/gX0JJVWX7791Hpf749hPQrx73whkpFnrXkvfr2PRN1cg8QP4lz6Dxo8 xt5FUJiVt2Up27nayZzid6lorDxVifRHYwut4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:57:58 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905270857od6a6a2cqc0924d09576c2cff@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:57:59 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Steve Bingham wrote: > Per - do you ever get the crashing midi issue? No crashes ever. Unless I bog down the CPU on purpose, but I simply don't use stuff that may do that. And my setup is very simple: Just one Channel Strip and one Output Strip. No parallel effect bussing. On the Channel STrip I call up different patches for either mic input, guitar line input or MIDI controlled software instruments. I had the kind of crashes you mention half a year ago when using the Bidule plug-in to set up effect loops inside the plug-in. But not today when sticking with only daisy-chained effects on the Channel STrip patch and Mobius AU plug-in set to "monitor input" opened on the output (and after the looper a low cut filter, an autofilter, a multi band compressor and a limiter) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 15:59:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 891183BECC; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1243439989; bh=OjjSszLwiZt0V/cRjIZuV7MTTDBtac3YHTtOEPw5+sw=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=aKjos8T0SPQRWNvqcK3+xyqygdzGhHEsp5Km13Tg6E4Bg6ppXTPeyWK6VDgayaNP4 Wbg7Jq6NRjiI8gUnDkQ7HdXnXIIKV5IYE4IyDmA2+8wgOPwNPn5g9i2M2Rm7HY7xjw xaXM3QtV2TNazOq5ngQ6KRe76pQsu9aVHHvhlKtE= Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:59:48 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:59:50 +0000 (UTC) > I'm interested that Per seems to not have a problem using Mainstage, > saying it "just works", but Sjaak can't use it live because of midi > crashes. Hi steve, I do use Mainstage live but I need a midi panic switch every now and then= . For some reason, Mainstage doesn't produce sound when I switch patches = sometimes using a program change. Like I said, I don't know the cause ye= t but it could be a setup error caused by my self, or a bug in a plugin. = I did't have this issue 2-3 months ago but it suddenly appeared and is st= ill there ;) Not a real issue, but the midi panic is a workaround. But other than that, Mainstage runs stable and it certainly doesn't crash= as long as you don't use multiple midi clocks. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 16:05:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A31443BED3; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1243440334; bh=wWlo5k9m42oZuQGtbd9NjVmWmSvVRKmEcOoCXbEUEAA=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=Y0fSWnWAO1sgFSsoJeJoruIxDNXoLXKYWEYooLCbMKbcvAQAN/3teo4au7LQ8VzDK O3Xh1ErZcKPWu28+zMJrdRUYnsW3GNJl+2gf3q7HNoxfj/ct2l+mW76pxZq77GPmTA r5TPXCVxLw4veVR/RypjkteZumVRdkDvmOYEpim4= Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:05:29 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <9I45zC.A.uhD.RTWHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:05:37 +0000 (UTC) > > - you can't use a AU-plugin like Augustus or Mobius to generate midi = clock and MS crashes when it detects multiple midi clocks > > I've been doing that for eight months now with no problem. The way I > do it is to let the Looper plug-in send its MIDI Clock out through the > OS X IAC Bus (virtual midi patches in a Mac). Then I click tic the box > in Mainstage that says "Get Tempo from MIDI input". Per, Well, if it works than you're right about that. I couldn't get it working= but that says probably more about my Bidule and Mainstage skills :) I do= n't need it at the moment because Mainstage is synced to my LP1 and that = works fine. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 16:23:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 533D83BEBE; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Eu2ibsDxllkna7AtyadJGTw195/raU/OmfvQXccuowM=; b=uVTjDDTgcFfnHZneYD/+rowacPx1YYVYmqIsHGOq5jAfDb43/iSRkQbHnCmnv1AMZC w3DnHx/EN7iGo9lqQF8eoKdEhH+EZvzBsGR0shWOMvuWvaNJej+KkFBwgKAmo4a9pBRK Z48LtJYXkEn7zUaTXRmHFYKz4g5qlfGy2X8qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=AWEPhvi0QycuV44lxqTT/OyTfmesYnj1XboGT3lUW9AyjngGZRcNNEy7FEeUP0yGOe 1cyUsEHhOEqrwxd9NyzUNYegNN2qbhV8N98eUP+W87iosPR1TmH+GLdKUmHivFfaI/oS NMfgHfFjcLYnlJiCVySZTN6jso0FbX0oaMuNs= Message-Id: <5DD6F864-B1EB-4A5D-9130-7295E38F2426@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A1CF785.1010004@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Punch-In silence Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:23:07 -0300 References: <95ACC287-8C8D-4871-A8A1-FC6DFEF9394E@gmail.com> <4A1BA8B9.4080809@tiscali.co.uk> <7bf141790905261553u77c393eq9c8887731a8d148d@mail.gmail.com> <4A1CF785.1010004@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:23:12 +0000 (UTC) got it now! thank you very much. On May 27, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > Ariel Rzezak wrote: >> Andy, >> can you explain a little more about this? >> what does it mean "v.short"? > > "very short" > > the button used is multifunction, > short taps are used for tap tempo (time-stretch) > > if you hold the button down for long enough it goes into Overdub/=20 > Replace depending on the setting of the 'Repeats' knob. > > andy > >> everybody, thank you very much. >> ps. luis, i=B4m checking the eventide website right now. On Tue, May =20= >> 26, 2009 at 5:30 AM, andy butler > >> wrote: >> Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man ( but not v.short punch ins, =20= >> it'll >> identify those as tap tempo). >> andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 16:25:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 021FF3BEBE; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=keEIS5HBHgHBZyUmUXEH698+11FGM5prDBEC7/FbOtA=; b=LhxSKDUM7V7wga+/cVt+QPOeDSFlNuyzo3Bg9+wWRJXqzwkFmzz1qqpL7sPfqo1OYz JmjFUeCAdezX6RNEfBG4hEifewIpXTGlpdak5ZqVIXA3AIPvFPiIZJIxiVlMn5jk0SZY 75M/jFBMSCT3c8vEpca4t7c9pLeTR6cR86/vE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=e1QaC++cVs5P0yE1r1zFE93PvofcuF3/0eMdKu0oG4Nj/rFF9vVc3g+t3VjZXmDGfV Gul6ejDDTFCAa+XR17T5wu9Kf5PpM/cuFPRaDD9stJxPj3VA+Zj5ZZRKpO56RPyIl5jE l57YAnom5IQQbQF/3mU1T1jT0q2A4daM4mX6Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:25:23 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905270925l1bd779d5j10400300d9266720@mail.gmail.com> Subject: multi-band compression (was: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please!) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6tdOXB.A.hUE.0lWHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Per said: > (and after the looper a low cut filter, an autofilter, a multi band compressor and a limiter) Out of curiosity, Per: why are you using a multiband compressor? The reason I'm asking is that I found the use of these processors only expedient in a few use cases: 1. Restoring low-quality 2bus recordings (e.g. microphone in the rehearsal space) 2. Making material with extremely high RMS values a little less unbearable 3. One building block in getting a very distinctive sound (aka "Finalizer Sound") I would not exactly see your art falling into any of these categories, so I'm asking...is there another use case? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 16:26:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6C423BED5; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=oY+iXCR+VG/eOBeoL4hG5pm+7/jnIzAACUvVIuDriQ0=; b=szJOf7C8CWgJ6gvlAtOB5SwmfiU+F1GPLfEqxBQ9px44yTm8QCsM6rnCL28HHoOQQR pxpJjSXuIRTTaM6A53kmbY9P+OBPczIKklBooa0VSSF7q6PdLoRgKZazucxi3QJrVukX FvgpVs4f9h0caogYhCLwqogj748a6bPcdvl2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=f6YXXUUp8kJM73dGuDee8vYul7Bh3LruyRl3MuBdHOrNYewEGqQ0/K6pQnkpksYpQp 4gKrc/boghxwVqTHV5eYQ4s390Nv6Wrh4Rd6IW/Q0UxYS9dpkhs0YaOfSQkrZMx2OcUn yy8f4UGwO9ebAujbIZcenvAMUXjSVzSqBrfUM= Message-Id: <95B59160-A31A-4DA1-A48B-5F9EF2B4D772@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905270205h35b9ff5fu2a51c63a8e045e8b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Punch-In silence Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:26:43 -0300 References: <7334ca1b0905260920o57894a40r63a43f5dee66b6f6@mail.gmail.com> <7bf141790905261558v58631a66pa221a7553b8a8ff4@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905270205h35b9ff5fu2a51c63a8e045e8b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:26:49 +0000 (UTC) you're right. having both options in a pedal would be fantastic but i'm fine with just replacing bits of audio. On May 27, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Ariel Rzezak > wrote: >> what i really want is to add tiny, real short, pieces or bits of >> silence to >> an already sounding loop. something like "deconstructing" or un-loop. > > > When you are saying "adding", are you fine with the loop becoming > longer that way? Because that would bring some strong musical changes. > If you don't want the loop to become longer I guess you rather want to > "substitute" a part of sound with the equal length of silence. Not > being nitty-picky here, just trying to understand what you are > actually after. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 16:32:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92B8F3BEDC; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 501 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:32:19 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=cfnJJXKFFbYjy4qUhyTdLa4tp/hEok0SP4tFssmZwB8=; b=nwYrDdJm5UKfZS3KbTniRe0QX2AiG8yp5lLX9IbOIq6LBhMvb6x2KlwGowImzavnJv k3jwSh9HzpUbSnI55RWJXE5VNNjtCQXUCOnpw3GoRiY1B6+NpB1WKcoCfYUkXWLXZa1K hRalny2KMWogD504aRqUFu/kSeyqPLgrh1FJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=ponUvov2YuvVhum2GhEYyp8GsyLuaF62qRJWOg8MorkNmD6yW60GsC693le3KUm4s0 pyr9/Nw2LejpFuaVjAvhelFN6QnHUqqjTZrZFSi1CaWNzzM1qNf6W/2cg0rHTWg9BbU7 /RqWisCppO7tcmL3YyasDJE+LxmpSegnW9I7Q= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905270116m1ca6aba5t43b5a9fb930d9d5d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Punch-In silence Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:23:55 -0300 References: <7334ca1b0905270116m1ca6aba5t43b5a9fb930d9d5d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:32:19 +0000 (UTC) thanks for the explanation rainer! On May 27, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> Rainer, i think i understand what you=B4re saying. but if i=B4m = correct =20 >> (i have a dl4) controlling the feedback i would affect the whole =20 >> loop or if it is a little bit it would be progressive (because of =20 >> the pedal controller). > > I don't exactly understand what you're saying, either ;), but perhaps > this can clear this up: > > The DL4 you mention (in looper mode) has a fixed feedback setting > during overdub which will only very gradually. > > I use the DD20 only in delay mode. So if you suddenly turn feedback to > 0 and back to 1, you would punch-in silence. > The problem: you need to turn the knob fast enough. I haven't actually > opened my DD20, but it seems to be a pot resistor, not a rotary > encoder, so it should be easily to jury-rig the thing and attach a > foot switch which would allow you to punch in really short bits with > sharp edges. > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 16:36:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69AC33BEE4; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090527163630722.B05C61C00086@mwinf3517.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: <98052742-5E0F-4E5A-9F6B-3281583C9E89@con-brio.com> From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905270857od6a6a2cqc0924d09576c2cff@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:36:30 +0100 References: <66f9cc1e0905270857od6a6a2cqc0924d09576c2cff@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:36:32 +0000 (UTC) This is good news: Coupled with what Sjaak has replied I reckon it's time I gave Mainstage another chance!! Steve On 27 May 2009, at 16:57, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Steve Bingham brio.com> wrote: >> Per - do you ever get the crashing midi issue? > > No crashes ever. Unless I bog down the CPU on purpose, but I simply > don't use stuff that may do that. And my setup is very simple: Just > one Channel Strip and one Output Strip. No parallel effect bussing. On > the Channel STrip I call up different patches for either mic input, > guitar line input or MIDI controlled software instruments. > > I had the kind of crashes you mention half a year ago when using the > Bidule plug-in to set up effect loops inside the plug-in. But not > today when sticking with only daisy-chained effects on the Channel > STrip patch and Mobius AU plug-in set to "monitor input" opened on the > output (and after the looper a low cut filter, an autofilter, a multi > band compressor and a limiter) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 16:36:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 830A23BEF8; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wai9ahh62eZ5+vzuIUTTKTaS9h97cHMwLy5zvdIdLVU=; b=ox0gQHSRPnrIfUJlV3U8DgMqWuQ08A3nZG859NeQiwKG157LZwmLlK7vcdW3d4jMEa mVArCwTQQINOzpu6fiPWLlpK6WXOQ57BmyQNtA08i6goeVE+i+rGgvAjeesnYJh4szfO LCjQEXEH+GUGA9hxPm4aqAO0+/kWAnbx0wCN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jHmbKufsAzDg5G3lzHQaYDPCVHU6kptA+OOBZ+GJWrh7VDjTvFOSkO1CGi20MBXA+h t9DGKwDW6sozx/fmgKnIJLvV13ySVzsXxnFsOje2qWjURROwog9liPrJcMd08w0A/lzW 1zjbORNCNsi8fonw9viqOgJAi79wir9jj+vMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905270925l1bd779d5j10400300d9266720@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905270925l1bd779d5j10400300d9266720@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:36:33 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905270936x546ce6ra34958d54edd62f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: multi-band compression (was: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please!) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:36:34 +0000 (UTC) The "musical answer" is that I like to play the compressor on the final output stage both from my looping treatments and from my live playing. A typical example: I like reverb to grow between my notes and stay down when I do play a note. The "technical answer" is that I layer sounds that span over many octaves and like it when they they don't interfere too much in a "pumping way" (typically when you here the pumping shadow of a kick drum in a hihat patter). Finally, in the studio I rarely ever use multi band compression on a summed signal bus for the simple reason that it sounds much better to apply compression at an earlier stage, like on the separate individual source channels. But with sound-on-sound layering based live-looping that's not an option. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Per said: >> (and after the looper a low cut filter, an autofilter, a multi band comp= ressor and a limiter) > > Out of curiosity, Per: why are you using a multiband compressor? > > The reason I'm asking is that I found the use of these processors only > expedient in a few use cases: > > 1. Restoring low-quality 2bus recordings (e.g. microphone in the > rehearsal space) > 2. Making material with extremely high RMS values a little less unbearabl= e > 3. One building block in getting a very distinctive sound (aka > "Finalizer Sound") > > I would not exactly see your art falling into any of these categories, > so I'm asking...is there another use case? > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 17:11:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFFD53BEF7; Wed, 27 May 2009 17:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1243444262; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=K0I5ro/RP5txKVF2vny3hz36JLQ=; b=Aislg5I+fgBJczaZsbRYIuFWrGAxz466x4o3vFvluIM+beOIQ5fIpDmbkv3K7ICw OzmwJ8/BXFU/gJtdXyN+v7Bv+x8VruZewNa+n8zG/fEN0+gNsUMPEOc+QSsrD0hW; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Is4wN5Z27RIm0tlMaBAA:9 a=sAF4cuOxMHQI-k0TnIiS_fP_ebkA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001b01c9deee$1b6caee0$bbeb3547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: OT: testing Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:10:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:11:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a test, etc.. For some reason I get regularly unsubscribed from the list. I hope I haven't p_o_ed anyone! I tried gmail but had a problem with replys not showing up or something, maybe I will try again. all the best, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 17:14:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38AD73BEDA; Wed, 27 May 2009 17:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WS15WhdppvIvMjWnXLRR04ujDR+r8R0GrKwstuc6ZLc=; b=D+haOIH7Cwo6dbE0vsDyvb35rYStX3gLWaMa+s3Jd7bwwDgrSbWl6Jqi1Vo0LVVan4 8HrsR/BFM68Upb5Y8xcOsJN9OYdos8roGVFvCF7AyUeiuDuy6Gm9LY/FpKRkZfiE2M9h U26UZZ9hHzLoJ35u0ypI6arD5nWbvMRZkxxcs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lbUV+rxT3Zedlv/1T6pnMx9lpwUAQrPA1V6qIvyOgRn138Z3R2euxxVCMcHEHU5CwI RyfTHqZuNgVludNJpeHPbBtXBbzeQqpkduAUvx8K2bsXOr4ZadwFcBrwq6Fzl2+Cc9yD xlr2Sr73diq/9w3Da4bwvdrO//UepjZx/d9o4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:14:44 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905271014u3856ffd4md62880dd695ddb89@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual Music Festival From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Just curious... who among you would be interested to participate in a "virtual music festival"? Players perform by sending an A/V stream, the audience listens/watches via e.g. ustream. I'd be interested in answers both from prospective performers and people involved in the administration/organisation. Replies off-list, please. Thanks, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 17:31:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8D433BEEE; Wed, 27 May 2009 17:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205763774/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMBADsVHUpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAI0A6EDAWIUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,260,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205763774" Message-ID: <4A1D7BB5.3030407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:43:17 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! References: <66f9cc1e0905270759r27fcef3ekaaf3b060c0271970@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Simeon Harris wrote: > thanks for the detailed reply per...i hadn't even considered the sound > quality issues The quality will only be affected by the plugins that you use, not by the host that does the routing. > > having played around with bidule for a bit, i can see the power of it, > but man you need a degree just to set up a midi metronome (watched the > vid on vimeo). it's not really that "user friendly", is it? dunnow mate ;-) I never wanted to get a degree. Hooking up the virtual patch cords in Bidule seems pretty easy to me, connect anything to anything without ever opening a manual. 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= --_38125d19-e693-49cd-ac80-5bc558b8fbad_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 17:53:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 069AF3BED6; Wed, 27 May 2009 17:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kZhq1qaB6tpd+hMnvqICDZyssumevjn1A+8+GXKYqTA=; b=J8VdwDGw3b7Iup+SasRLaTLmDfc/t+8ZLhawIfX+3WK+FTPtKO4o1CHtmTlAgr3w9p msxAaya929vC9z4Iz9XYH8xo7M4fOT6oVVKrGmHXx1gDDYpOGJI/2NPh+mdoEuuTQbnK 1NMMwywQBTpVt8hqzDbau3m16TXD5Ktk3cTB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZIpGW+SDjA5Tc5E86U3YuFwSl8xNRZ2xTCnY+6OLVXusxp52OSFBJHHk4n13e+k+cY pYCxEm4p+n1vBNjKJuwsykCIcTqMiBxYXIboQKaEixylATPlI1U7OVtl4C6ocZNDg7pA uiuM192OH6oBmoajgcnkUAWFTP2KJPcWBtx4Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1D7BB5.3030407@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0905270759r27fcef3ekaaf3b060c0271970@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D7BB5.3030407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:53:04 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905271053m2587da98rf3862482e2dbe83d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:53:04 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:43 PM, andy butler wrote: > Simeon Harris wrote: >> >> thanks for the detailed reply per...i hadn't even considered the sound >> quality issues > > The quality will only be affected by the plugins that you use, > not by the host that does the routing. Yes of course, that was actually my point - since you get almost all the great plug-ins you need bundled with the Mainstage purchase. My mistake to leave that for understood in my post, so good thing Andy put focus on it. However, the sound quality aspects I mentioned is not only a plug-in issue (although anyone with lots of money could buy a bunch of third-party plug-ins of the same quality as the Logic/Mainstage bundled). I was also referring to the new multi core processor support in the Bidule beta. On Mac it is not as crystal clear sounding as on Windows XP. My particular reason for using Bidule is to use the Mobius VST that supports multiple loop track outputs in order to use EQ, Compressor and some dynamic effects on all of the eight tracks independently, post looper. To make the Macbook carry out all that I need to run some plug-ins in multi processor enabled mode and I have not found any combination that doesn't bring audio artifacts to the sound. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 17:56:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2A333BEDB; Wed, 27 May 2009 17:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202447898/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMBABcbHUpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAIz3qEDAWIUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,260,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202447898" Message-ID: <4A1D81AD.3090100@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:08:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! References: <66f9cc1e0905270846w18ee5fd7xc7c746f9ddc9f6ae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905270846w18ee5fd7xc7c746f9ddc9f6ae@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Mainstage does not at all work along the old hardware based concept of > "sending MIDI into plug-ins that are programmed to react". What > Mainstage offers is a software concept based on two steps: > > 1) The user creates his own on-screen set of graphic control objects > that directly corresponds to the physical control hardware used. These > screen objects has MIDI Learn capabilities and connect with incoming > MIDI events from the physical control hardware. This graphic interface > may not be changed often once it has been set up (not until you buy a > new MIDI mixer, MIDI pedal-board etc) > > 2) Next phase is to set up the binding between the on-screen objects > and parameters in the software. When doing this you can apply data > scaling, reverse a parameter's response on a pedal's range etc, etc. > So surely the assumption is that the midi controller isn't programmable by the user? This looks like a backward step compared to simply routing midi into a plugin. Can't imagine that it's compatible with any but the most basic of midi controllers. Of course, etc etc may include rather a lot, which may be some consolation. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 18:11:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E9D53BEF1; Wed, 27 May 2009 18:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205389410/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMBANceHUpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAIz3eEDAWIUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,260,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205389410" Message-ID: <4A1D8527.2050906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:23:35 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! References: <66f9cc1e0905270759r27fcef3ekaaf3b060c0271970@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D7BB5.3030407@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0905271053m2587da98rf3862482e2dbe83d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905271053m2587da98rf3862482e2dbe83d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Yes of course, that was actually my point - since you get almost all > the great plug-ins you need bundled with the Mainstage purchase. My > mistake to leave that for understood in my post, so good thing Andy > put focus on it. > > However, the sound quality aspects I mentioned is not only a plug-in > issue (although anyone with lots of money could buy a bunch of > third-party plug-ins of the same quality as the Logic/Mainstage > bundled). I was also referring to the new multi core processor support > in the Bidule beta. On Mac it is not as crystal clear sounding as on > Windows XP. My particular reason for using Bidule is to use the Mobius > VST that supports multiple loop track outputs in order to use EQ, > Compressor and some dynamic effects on all of the eight tracks > independently, post looper. To make the Macbook carry out all that I > need to run some plug-ins in multi processor enabled mode and I have > not found any combination that doesn't bring audio artifacts to the > sound. > > Per > I don't understand "crystal clear sounding" in this context. I get your point that Mainstage on OSX is giving better CPU usage than Bidule, but isn't it confusing to to equate the ability to perform a lot of process without getting clicks and dropouts with actual sound quality? Well, that's a rhetorical question, I'm sure you'd agree :-) Indeed, there aren't a bunch of high quality fx bundled with Bidule, that's certainly a factor. Is it possible to buy Mainstage without buying Logic? ...cos Logic ain't cheap. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 18:16:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CAF33BF00; Wed, 27 May 2009 18:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=e3u/gt1Ih6XDqAJ85xtm9k6zbc9NOsrHSkLi1VewSpw=; b=rcNWxMzEqn5plI0+FdY1XSEuhBwVr6SfM6/TgzdJrpPF2DW8C5YQ10nPJ4RqTO6kN0 MkaQkKzGE3LMWKmUwJtsO34iXRJ5Jy0XAOgEuDEcq2SWDcHkakfc2adfkPVirrVdA+oX ZB3NX6kj7i1yP9hlJT0IqBhB5R1XnbpMOsifw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cRI6GCTumCpXPFJZWtQ/fd1rst9MxsXvLAbyJvFRJLqvO1B7MKfJNIUpXsXTNE+zNC SwlNpEmHD1I7pLaienOFBiGY8egLnyHZYGZw7w9r9NQ/dBE14oJf+rDTdu4j37HFqq8M DK69Q36x/O0FF+bcaxZrBIQfUzfaii6Tq6ZMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1D81AD.3090100@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0905270846w18ee5fd7xc7c746f9ddc9f6ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D81AD.3090100@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 20:16:01 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905271116o4a110293oe72d524c7be847ee@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:16:02 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: > >> Mainstage does not at all work along the old hardware based concept of >> "sending MIDI into plug-ins that are programmed to react". What >> Mainstage offers is a software concept based on two steps: >> >> 1) The user creates his own on-screen set of graphic control objects >> that directly corresponds to the physical control hardware used. These >> screen objects has MIDI Learn capabilities and connect with incoming >> MIDI events from the physical control hardware. This graphic interface >> may not be changed often once it has been set up (not until you buy a >> new MIDI mixer, MIDI pedal-board etc) >> >> 2) Next phase is to set up the binding between the on-screen objects >> and parameters in the software. When doing this you can apply data >> scaling, reverse a parameter's response on a pedal's range etc, etc. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, andy butler wrote: > So surely the assumption is that the midi controller isn't programmable > by the user? No. If the midi hardware control gear is programmable or not has nothing to do with the Mainstage interface. The software simply adapts to whatever MIDI is sent in and translates that into tweaking the targeted plug-in parameter values. > This looks like a backward step compared to simply routing midi into a > plugin. Yes, from a hardware based background it is backwards. But this software puts the focus on the user interface on the screen. Whatever outboard MIDI control gear or software plug-ins used in the box is second row. > Can't imagine that it's compatible with any but the most basic of midi > controllers. It is compatible with everything because it has full MIDI learn functionality. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 18:25:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C00083BEF6; Wed, 27 May 2009 18:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=koDjbuDTnxktkYz4KV71dBm7qf77hig+x2YQSFLfEnc=; b=jzmuy6Y6MYz45hmh91oN0JfxjBHsEsbs/caDtBZydq0rvjFhCbAJ7WKnqhnLbxbFdc lAqeGZwWi/WeVick00bJ8m68RvTM7gZhT9AQNlbc+oGO2f2nqPAzJ6j1pAbuB0p1+3kj A44/5eHM/MMsIiKt+CfWUslaF2+o/xm0jfWrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vi6P2WBKrsQhIyDR71wbidtgoVV2HtHzL5UItcFOrvmRbtAmHPFpEbgtWZiWNU6/tJ bzKTkBgCXN5YfX9rgkzt9IDF/+pgdwMMfXf8WXYWSWXla9Wpoj9NBxceNp92I7SbFM1A CNDuS9lt61kV69hLqD0v8wQsoxrC26BjV4CVY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1D8527.2050906@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0905270759r27fcef3ekaaf3b060c0271970@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D7BB5.3030407@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0905271053m2587da98rf3862482e2dbe83d@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D8527.2050906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 20:25:29 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905271125n763e063dkd94d27cc72bf6d0d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:25:29 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:23 PM, andy butler wrote: > I don't understand "crystal clear sounding" in this context. > I get your point that Mainstage on OSX is giving better CPU > usage than Bidule, but isn't it confusing to to equate the ability to > perform a lot of process without getting clicks and dropouts with actual > sound quality? YEs, But I think I wrote somewhere that it relates to my typical use of the gear. It's by no means a test. I didn't even use the two host apps for the same task! Bidule is much more configurable but Mainstage does one thing perfectly - and that's what I need, being a player rather than a programmer. I would rather play one perfect instrument than have access to a dozen "rather good" ones. > Indeed, there aren't a bunch of high quality fx bundled with > Bidule, that's certainly a factor. > > Is it possible to buy Mainstage without buying Logic? Unfortunately it only comes as part of the Logic Pro Studio box. So you buy into that whole concept - which I don't have a problem with because I like to record and mix in Logic and pre master CD's in Wave*Burner and even have use for the QuickTime Pro license that comes with it. Oh, you have to buy a Mac to run any of those goodies, but since I already have a Mac I don't have any problem with that either ;-) > ...cos Logic ain't cheap. I think it is incredibly cheap! I mean, if you need all that comes with it it saves you so much money. And time. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 18:34:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 699893BEF6; Wed, 27 May 2009 18:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:34:52 -0500 Subject: RE: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Thread-Topic: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! 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From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:03:45 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > I haven't had a chance to study this in detail but it appears that > Mainstage requires that anything the plugin wants to have controlled by t= he > user has to be exposed as an AU parameter (or whatever the equivalent of = a > VST parameter is in AU, I forget). =C2=A0Beyond parameters there are appa= rently > "actions" as well; one-shot commands that don't have a range of > values. > > It's more like VST parameter automation in a DAW, the plugin never > gets MIDI directly. =C2=A0This is kind of annoying for complex plugins > (like say multi-track loopers) because you have to expose a bajillion > AU parameters and actions to make the most of Mainstage. =C2=A0This is al= l > redundant if the plugin also needs to respond to MIDI for the > "primitive" hosts like Bidule. Hi guys, I just have to comment here to set the record straight ;-) Bidule uses a similar system as Mainstage. You can check it out in Bidule by clicking at "Parameters". What you get then is a huge list of all modules and plug-ins used in your session. Every module or plug-in header can be opened to list its parameter and there may indeed be thousands of parameters listed. But that's no problem since they appear in alphabetical order. And you don't have to open up the Parameters window to manually bind carriers and parameters together - you can use the Click MIDI Learn" method, just as in Mainstage. I must say that I'm finding the concept of sending external control MIDI directly into a plug-in a bit tedious and time consuming in Bidule. That is because you have to build the MIDI paths and include MIDI event filtering that makes sure only the needed MIDI events get through to the plug-in. If I was given the choice I would prefer the parameter linking method. But if talking Mobius in particular, this all doesn't apply since Mobus AU doesn't yet declare its parameters to the host. So you have to use the MIDI direct routing. And that's very easy to do: Just open Mobius MIDI Device Selection window and set it to fetch MIDI directly form a physical MIDI In port on your system. It doesn't harm OS X or Mainstage if this happens to be a physical MIDI In port that also Mainstage fetches MIDI input from. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 19:11:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFB9E3BF02; Wed, 27 May 2009 19:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 27 May 2009 19:11:08 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1243451066; bh=uNQo4iz+QK2l+MvsKBqcf5PmLohyy+t6CmpksxSuWwk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VTAkZgXBxzDSnDlydXWvt9wbAgk2p1uT+7KC9vn/jE0iECSiCSlieAcwnUGATFwvkpBCiswEBdOfYLVqCmivhlniAmAqS9qPZM1cS2dhGRA4AVQ399FuQgfhisXt2clZTjJsACDFwIuJVp/R68EcpR7xpOnsPKBGQ5Z3gz11yZM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lJ1Sr5kCFHNOPuzshIGEiv7vzHvIxkSha0exCKnezUBpIIE/XDESxHVfGgK26PghmcMxe2/G9Qs33lg6f2H0riuo58Mjn6cpe0CU52ZK/IOyZTnEK2wlSLSuyNKVzcWfOQuK7oVEER3BvWvXTY+ziGMgwsydQV8k7l5OjC6fjFo=; Message-ID: <26764.57246.qm@web24607.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xrfX5CAVM1m87Ah3SMR_eVh0kdXnH4F4pBHJT4rl48f6.NXh3jgD0UohbnZulaY7cab.b2Xu5UwiMXefNvUUrckanqUizqh6O48I6ozMv0MJ4jD1uvVGg9n36l71Oc1cBui_Mj6tNjPP2wim7VDtf3rB9fSuj7LVEZf3RSoEg158NTFBAb_HedKk5VMwq0BpAZAx242d6iwZ46VnPkx_EXYMwJhFpBrwC00W7T24Zn4oC0NvmHx9A1FoJhh2R_PcV5vdAQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 12:04:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Punch-In silence To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-m9UZB.A.W6B.MBZHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:11:08 +0000 (UTC) =0AAriel,=0A=0AAs well as using the EDP for this, I can also achieve a simi= lar effect by using the 'Freeze' function on my Korg Toneworks AG3000 (maxi= mum 2.7 secs loop), and punching new sounds (or silences) in and out. Alte= rnatively, similar results can be obtained using the Mini-Kaoss pad, patch = 77, loop sampler (max. 2 secs loop), albeit slightly less predictable. =0A= =0AStephen=0Awww.myspace.com/sylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 27/5/09, Ari= el Rzezak wrote:=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 19:32:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C17F3BEFA; Wed, 27 May 2009 19:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sg4dAEDNUGpEsIjv1jVLfC6iwqFFNInPiluToon9NG0=; b=cyTlwuK176bHS6EckFVDAOUCv3cesL55AOQ2jyGGTNyS/Dt24Nt6vrYdPMPINhiI4i DBbSdIq2R9SpavXGqvBibHgPw/V+ZSutkOeb5qp6m6EiNEtGiOXiHgysfixrSXfVjcVj IWL8rpu08UR2uoBX4o84eGMgqgzf4L3UGDWis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JeOWZNbE8l10weGzdMqtSjB9HB2MkNk5II4PkhYg9W/XwORlNjtqVByJSCLZPhAnD+ JwL5F9NUeu6ywIPMAAmmE3NqITM1EC2wWdD04K0CoVgPvsBHhZZ2BSukgX5/7AZn4ptO WMe8NEJOwR1fx8cwVJh+JMuMkv76rjU1J/oUE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 12:32:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_1CTqC.A.2gC.eVZHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:32:46 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > ok, so my current setup is this... > > triaxis preamp > tc g-force > eventide eclipse > > split into > tc d2 delay > looperlative (with kaoss pad and lexicon mpx-1 in aux sends) Hmmm why does that sound familiar? Oh yeah, I know! THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENED TO ME! OK, well it's not all the same, but similar. MPX-1, looperlative, KAOSS pad... ditched it all in favor of a laptop running Mobius and it kind of grew from there. My initial idea was the laptop would become the Looperlative/MPX-1 in my system but when I discovered how good a lot of the virtual instruments are and how amazing IK Multimedia's Amplitube is, the laptop became an even larger part of my world. I went with Ableton Live because it seemed to have much better syncing to external sources than any other software I could find at the time (3 years ago). It also comes with a lot of great effects and there was a "lite" version of it that came free with my M-Audio Firewire Solo. It's also cross platform and I run XP and a Mac side by side. (Mac's better! :P) I mostly use the Mac for composition style recording and the PC has become an improvisation machine. This was mainly due to the fact that I wanted to run Mobius but I guess there's a Mac version now... still, there are a bunch of XP only things I've grown to really love that I'm sure will never be available for the Mac... I wonder if I were to make the same choice now if I would go with a PC. Anyway, I bought a Toshiba because it came with Firewire and I wanted to use my MOTU 828 as an interface and it works great. In the end I mostly stopped using the laptop as a part of the chain, as it seemed adept in being "the chain." I run my guitar and bass (old Steinbergers) directly into the MOTU 828. Inside Ableton Live I have Amplitube 2 (all flavors) acting as my preamp. After amplitube there are a variety of effect plugs I use including using Reaktor. Other amazing effect suites I use include NI's KORE and U-he's Uhbiks. Audiodamage's Dr. Device is brilliant. A send from that audio channel runs to a channel running Mobius. Another send runs Augustus Loop which I use for more of it's "tapeish" qualities. Sometimes after Augustus Loop I'll run another effect and automate it slowly over time. Lots of times Audiodamage's Replicant fills that gap. Along side my audio inputs (which also take signals from a Roland SonicCell and a DSI MoPHo) I usually run several synth programs such as Zebra or Absynth. These can all get routed to either (or both) send running my two loopers. Do I miss my Looperlative? Not a bit. I don't even miss my Vox Tonelab, though I keep it around as it's sound is different enough to still remain useful. Also, sometimes when I'm running a heavy plug in like my vocoder I'll peak out my processor and need to look outside the computer for some help. I control all of the above with two Behringer FCB1010s but I'm hoping to add an IK Multimedia Stealthpedal to get greater control of Amplitube. Hope this helps more than it confuses... ;) > > all running into a rack mixer and into a mesa 20/20 poweramp and marshall > cabs > > i've been contemplating ditching all the rack fx and replacing them with a > mac laptop (keeping the triaxis and 20/20) > > my system at the moment is preset based - i have about 60 sounds available > with cc pedals for variation, with the g-force and eclipse working in tandem > the lp-1 is controlled by a separate midi controller and i have a control > surface as well (which also controls the d2 and lexicon) > > i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop > > so i'm thinking about which plugin host will work best, bearing in mind that > i don't really want to have to launch loads of separate programs on startup > and i need everything to be synced to midi clock and i also need to be able > to control it all via midi > > i'm thinking of using guitar rig for the basic fx, with extra plugins > (including reaktor) for more sonic manipulation....with sooperlooper and > augustus loop running in parallel and feeding more plugins > > ableton live looks like a good bet, but i'd really just be using the > mixer...but it's nice and stable. > > so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on one > midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can control > everything the way i am now > > any other plugin hosts (for audiounits) that might be worth looking at? is > mainstage worth considering? > > any help would be greatly appreciated! > > sim > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 20:13:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 078413BEF0; Wed, 27 May 2009 20:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205839877/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMBAOg7HUpPToWq/2dsb2JhbAAIzyyEDAWIUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,261,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205839877" Message-ID: <4A1DA1B3.60509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 21:25:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! References: <66f9cc1e0905270846w18ee5fd7xc7c746f9ddc9f6ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D81AD.3090100@tiscali.co.uk> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADBB3B8D07@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0905271203x46324279m273536bbf0af19d8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905271203x46324279m273536bbf0af19d8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 20:13:09 +0000 (UTC) > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> I haven't had a chance to study this in detail but it appears that >> Mainstage requires that anything the plugin wants to have controlled by the >> user has to be exposed as an AU parameter (or whatever the equivalent of a >> VST parameter is in AU, I forget). Beyond parameters there are apparently >> "actions" as well; one-shot commands that don't have a range of >> values. >> >> It's more like VST parameter automation in a DAW, the plugin never >> gets MIDI directly. This is kind of annoying for complex plugins >> (like say multi-track loopers) because you have to expose a bajillion >> AU parameters and actions to make the most of Mainstage. This is all >> redundant if the plugin also needs to respond to MIDI for the >> "primitive" hosts like Bidule. > > Per Boysen wrote: > Hi guys, > > I just have to comment here to set the record straight ;-) > > Bidule uses a similar system as Mainstage. You can check it out in > Bidule by clicking at "Parameters". Yep, you could create that Mainstage system in Bidule. but it *allows* you to just hook up a midi connection. The Mainstage system seems cool. If Mainstage also allows the user to freely route midi in any way they like then it's a cool program. Do I have this right? The Mainstage concept seems to be based on a controller which only tells mainstage that a particular controller knob/fader/button is moved. Then, all the complex tricks are done by the virtual control surface. So the midi controller could equally be a USB controller that just moves the virtual control knob. So.. instead of clever programming of a midi pedal, we end up programming the virtual surface to do the same business. > > I must say that I'm finding the concept of sending external control > MIDI directly into a plug-in a bit tedious and time consuming in > Bidule. That is because you have to build the MIDI paths and include > MIDI event filtering that makes sure only the needed MIDI events get > through to the plug-in. Yep, but isn't that just because the fcb1010 is a pain in the way it won't let you freely program the midi channel? If so, it would seem a bit unfair to blame Bidule, which in any case lets you midi filter in ways that most hosts don't. > If I was given the choice I would prefer the > parameter linking method. It certainly has it's strong points. ...but what if you want to play the pitch of a loop with Midi Notes Repeater style? Surely the virtual midi cable to the plug would be the obvious way? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 23:03:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCE863BEE2; Wed, 27 May 2009 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1243465383; bh=6CHRkkgy+uVRgmp4H1HCQt8W6ySCHLKMFYNe6TK7030=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=ICmrCI60EZSvJQhtYUdy0YPA7o33IXU4acZXErVmR6BkVEyIQA8oTS5tWbsSdG+mF dq9z+guOHCPl7r9ya1buqCR46u9/ZImUfJ2uJ3LoLmWK01N/KSESgWAEayV+mjxN3W ZMQ5pUY75lzlSpmqCKxVaugLr2XJoZ0FF9s4dT8o= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 01:02:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9df1f$3a541920$040313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnfB4/5AJKqjdDRRoG4h/Q9GuHtBQAE0gmw In-Reply-To: <4A1DA1B3.60509@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC) > Andy wrote: > The Mainstage system seems cool. > If Mainstage also allows the user to freely route > midi in any way they like then it's a cool program. The current version of Mainstage was not designed for this so it might be limited at first sight. However, I learned to live with it and I have implemented a few workarounds using 1 midi merge box, Bidule and the Gordius MFC. You can use the FCB1010 output as additonal midi out so my midi channels are physically seperated (filtered) now using the 2 Gordius midi out's. 1 midi out is sending messages to Mainstage, the other to the LP1. The LP1 sends the midi clock back to the Gordius, shows the BPM in the display, the LED's are flashing and synced to the tempo as well and midi clock is forwarded to Mainstage using the internal midi forward option in the Gordius software. This has worked well (sofar). The advantage of this setup is that I'm 100% sure Mainstage won't receive and process midi messages ment for other midi devices. This can happened in the beginning when you use a midi input attached to the Mac and the midi thru to forward messages to your EDP or LP1. Cause: Mainstage doesn't / can't filter midi channels so it could respond to midi messages you have in fact setup for your LP1 or EDP. Anyway, I'm happy with Mainstage and like Per said, you will be able to build patches quickly. It has a simple UI, looks good, it works like a live mixer, it's not difficult to use imo. And it sounds good, is has some very powerfull plugins such as the reverb and delay designers as well as synths. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ ** Ambient, experimental, live looping, soundscapes, improvisation, found sound, drones ** May 30 2009, Arenbergschouwburg Antwerp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 23:10:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B628B3BEE8; Wed, 27 May 2009 23:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 349 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 27 May 2009 23:10:09 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Hm/rjrIY5CiyPME98+y3AiAq+ptficbWM93Mi7S7QBY=; b=V/qLY8PbLiAIEiwynfCeZQlaHoAXVk9rFp0pgnmOYyawn2YKX3PFo9U5op6nvU78FO kBqmh5MOsKtWu9nFSQtH4LJZqciMqyeuZz7SoxrG/30+6hLfWRG+eS/aWXzh21f1wCg0 1tiR6/azHoZH2uEWjMn/LnnW5x4wIMgXzrSQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XEmNfeG7PQBbKvQoyLMSMBwjnIvkbm8UK+Lf/OmUMOhtF+X13RpjrWuq+N3IrCBkPf irQgT3PKJWEuexCs48Gf1C4Sk4xb6WK6Ikfot2bCt0GQvmNQqqtlU1jLMPfWzgAsFp2y LJxIn6fE8WH4WDkODE4f6t0n8FEu34slWzTI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <26764.57246.qm@web24607.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <26764.57246.qm@web24607.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 20:04:19 -0300 Message-ID: <7bf141790905271604v2a6f7c19y75cc29e587629bca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Punch-In silence From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b0ee090954046aecdd88 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 23:10:09 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b0ee090954046aecdd88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the information stephen. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Stephen Scott wrote: > > > Ariel, > > As well as using the EDP for this, I can also achieve a similar effect by > using the 'Freeze' function on my Korg Toneworks AG3000 (maximum 2.7 secs > loop), and punching new sounds (or silences) in and out. Alternatively, > similar results can be obtained using the Mini-Kaoss pad, patch 77, loop > sampler (max. 2 secs loop), albeit slightly less predictable. > > Stephen > www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > > > > > > > > --001636c5b0ee090954046aecdd88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for the information stephen.

On We= d, May 27, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Stephen Scott <loopingsteve@yahoo.co.uk> wr= ote:


Ariel,

As well as using the EDP for this, I can also achieve a similar effect by u= sing the 'Freeze' function on my Korg Toneworks AG3000 (maximum 2.7= secs loop), and punching new sounds (or silences) in and out. =A0Alternati= vely, similar results can be obtained using the Mini-Kaoss pad, patch 77, l= oop sampler (max. 2 secs loop), albeit slightly less predictable.

Stephen
www.mysp= ace.com/sylvianfisher


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--001636c5b0ee090954046aecdd88-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 27 23:55:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8A8D3BEF9; Wed, 27 May 2009 23:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905270226j7c5e9010h1281ce3c8f90fb47@mail.gmail.com> References: <01d001c9dd1d$e6b15060$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <66f9cc1e0905270226j7c5e9010h1281ce3c8f90fb47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:55:13 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: New "Rigs" videos featuring Thomas Dimuzio Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <4LWgj.A.u6B.nLdHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 23:55:19 +0000 (UTC) At 11:26 AM +0200 5/27/09, Per Boysen wrote: >That was great, Matt! Regarding 4:30 it's like The Real Thing starts >around there. And it gets really cool by 6:30 and leading out. I'll second that: I'm loving the Dimuzio interview! Frack! Now he's got me wanting a Kurzweil 2600, though. Like I need another case of GAS. :P --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From oksana@tam.ukma.kiev.ua Thu May 28 01:56:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 19315 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 28 May 2009 01:56:59 UTC Received: from tam.ukma.kiev.ua (tam.ukma.kiev.ua [194.44.142.246]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2473BEE8 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 01:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tam.ukma.kiev.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tam.ukma.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n4RK0LdZ081996 for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 23:00:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from oksana@tam.ukma.kiev.ua) Received: (from oksana@localhost) by tam.ukma.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n4RK0LS8081994; Wed, 27 May 2009 23:00:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from oksana) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 23:00:21 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <200905272000.n4RK0LS8081994@tam.ukma.kiev.ua> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: "hallmark.com" Content-Type: text/html
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 02:25:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 121543BEFF; Thu, 28 May 2009 02:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oMTkU2FEK5lWZKmu64SJcOHF2SZ0nF7HT3vrHPtxaag=; b=dyjq2dUjVK5fFWHrPyvKSRHBuIGmK592thgHKoBMIt385Evhl3o7fWDdeUgtwzNDrs Zd4tm+vpBy1I4hKBKbTrzOBZwRi3Lg+JGEBFHlS2oEaE8QJlQxGXrkG6gOiF71BQ0Yi1 zGKGiy6kW0Z0sIAlDLGjS6LfUvo/ICzNI+NFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rafDNIedtLEl/xX7dvgmtJFuutRwZwhPa24lxEPveTaC6mM2qhcsyREQS/dfdpBpMD NyrA1XxUW1+YyOwAt7DyZdnHKcU7jSWkA4rW78VEjGqQ9XdK9KXEIo64m5HEiAPCQJHW FGCxVrVVF+bwtiE5OucKCXIlAt7BjEm15a5kY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:25:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: ESTING TESTING TESTING . . . . AGAIN From: Ted Killian To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d2b09ee6d69046aefad24 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 02:25:55 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d2b09ee6d69046aefad24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For some reason I keep getting kicked off the list every week or few days or so. I've created a Gmail account just so I can continue on the list. --0016364d2b09ee6d69046aefad24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For some reason I keep getting kicked off the list every week or few days or so.

I've created a Gmail account just so I can continue on the list.


--0016364d2b09ee6d69046aefad24-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 02:43:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DB293BF04; Thu, 28 May 2009 02:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1243478609; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=X3ECTC968uhpCojaA9EB86gy9n4=; b=l/cm3c8vIDX3ChBnJ+ZMf3Y7gvPrZi/fsIFir89Kl2OKSEWVhb+7ONHT+WqzNkp2 h1O2YNXbitn02Uwa4VfitikbXz8V/O1cOkj0cdz/xrTyipGAzifu2WBhgveyYqkx; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hppiyZKHb2UA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=F3nNuMJbxSSVHGoQZUwA:9 a=oPmf0r0zBRwmo-s62AIWRPJMPLAA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4A1V8xx0_VkQAgu44fsA:9 a=ozsORupc6IFZtvrPWLcA:7 a=zt9WYyggwTZJYaxPPKWRqt7xIoIA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c9df3e$14a00e90$30e53547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: ESTING TESTING TESTING . . . . AGAIN Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:43:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9DF1C.8D318180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 02:43:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9DF1C.8D318180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought it was just me Ted, hmm maybe they want to dump the hardware = guys? :) nah! With Gmail I had an issue but I think I'll try again. J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ted Killian=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:25 PM Subject: ESTING TESTING TESTING . . . . AGAIN For some reason I keep getting kicked off the list every week or few = days or so. I've created a Gmail account just so I can continue on the list. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9DF1C.8D318180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought it was just me Ted, hmm maybe = they want=20 to dump the hardware guys? :) nah!
 
With Gmail I had an issue but I think = I'll try=20 again.
 
J
----- Original Message -----
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For some reason I keep getting kicked off the list = every week=20 or few days or so.

I've created a Gmail account just so I can = continue=20 on the list.


------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9DF1C.8D318180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 05:28:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ED6D3BF05; Thu, 28 May 2009 05:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <23038.193.190.154.22.1243488478.squirrel@www.vidnaobmana.be> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905271014u3856ffd4md62880dd695ddb89@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905271014u3856ffd4md62880dd695ddb89@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 07:27:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Virtual Music Festival From: "microphonics" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: microphonics@vidnaobmana.be User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 05:28:01 +0000 (UTC) hi Rainer, I'm definitely interested in hearing more on this and how we can set this up from our personal home studios... Keep me in the loop, thanks, Dirk. www.microphonics.be www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics > Just curious... > > who among you would be interested to participate in a "virtual music > festival"? > > Players perform by sending an A/V stream, the audience listens/watches > via e.g. ustream. > > I'd be interested in answers both from prospective performers and > people involved in the administration/organisation. > > Replies off-list, please. > > Thanks, > > Rainer > > --- > http://moinlabs.de > http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs > http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ > http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 06:23:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A0553BF0B; Thu, 28 May 2009 06:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:23:49 +0200 Message-ID: <004d01c9df5c$de0fea20$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9DF6D.A198BA20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcnfWxalYt+G+mynTu6lX5ScoByyAgAASnOw In-Reply-To: X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.180; VDF: 7.1.4.28) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 06:23:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9DF6D.A198BA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > the rack is really heavy and i'm not getting any younger.... hi Sim, these is the main reason why I ditched my rack and replaced everything with software (I'm using Bidule too but on a Windows laptop). You probably won't be able to recreate everything exactly as it was but then, you'll be finding many new exciting possibilities. I'm very happy with this and still experimenting ... and contrary to what Andy says, all these new possibilities sparked my musical imagination big time. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9DF6D.A198BA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> = the rack is=20 really heavy and i'm not getting any younger.... 
 
hi Sim,
 
these is the main reason why I ditched my rack and replaced = everything=20 with software (I'm using Bidule too but on a Windows laptop). You = probably won't=20 be able to recreate everything exactly as it was but then, you'll be = finding=20 many new exciting possibilities. I'm=20 very happy with this and still experimenting ... and contrary to what = Andy says,=20 all these new possibilities sparked my musical imagination big=20 time.
 
-Michael
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9DF6D.A198BA20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 07:20:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2A6A3BF08; Thu, 28 May 2009 07:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 202167841/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.138.124/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.138.124 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvgBADvYHUpPTop8/2dsb2JhbAAIkRS8RIQNBYhU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,263,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="202167841" Message-ID: <4A1E3E0E.7090400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:32:30 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! References: <004d01c9df5c$de0fea20$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <004d01c9df5c$de0fea20$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 07:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters wrote: > happy with this and still experimenting ... and contrary to what Andy > says, all these new possibilities sparked my musical imagination big time. :-) beautiful From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 08:44:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DE913BF0C; Thu, 28 May 2009 08:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_19a698c7-5485-42f8-be16-071d2fc25a02_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: Meditative looping improvisation, and some thughst regarding improvised live looping.. Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:44:37 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2009 08:44:38.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[88D0DB50:01C9DF70] Resent-Message-ID: <8OvgID.A.unH.27kHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:44:38 +0000 (UTC) --_19a698c7-5485-42f8-be16-071d2fc25a02_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trying to keep the loop rhythmic and uncluttered.. yet evolving and interes= ting... keeping the same cycle length... EDP is the looper...=20 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D7638279 =20 Just guitar amp and delay + EDP.. got KP3 a few days ago I will try to use = that in future live loops. Any experience of using Kaoss KP3 for live loopi= ng?? =20 when i read this by Matthias Grob recognised myself in BIG way.. http://www.loopers-delight.com/tips/Plhints.html#hint16 Looping for my is meditative activity that gives me a LOT.. Reacting to wha= t I hear=2C making mistakes in to something meaningful..=20 I also enjoy presenting the improvisations in a raw form so that the listen= er hears the process=2C the good and the bad.. maybe not the listener frien= dliest way of presenting the music=2C OR? =20 =20 Keep looping=2C Anders --_19a698c7-5485-42f8-be16-071d2fc25a02_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trying to keep the loop rhythmic and uncluttered.. yet evolving and interes= ting... keeping the same cycle length... EDP is the looper...
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D7638279=
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Just guitar amp and delay + EDP.. got KP3 a few days ago I will try to use = that in future live loops. Any experience of using Kaoss KP3 for live loopi= ng??
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when i read =3Bthis by Matthias Grob recognised myself in BIG way..
http://= www.loopers-delight.com/tips/Plhints.html#hint16
Looping for my is meditative activity that gives me a LOT.. Reacting to wha= t I hear=2C making mistakes in to something meaningful..
I also enjoy presenting the improvisations in a raw form so that the listen= er hears the process=2C the good and the bad.. maybe not the listener frien= dliest way of presenting the music=2C OR?
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= --_19a698c7-5485-42f8-be16-071d2fc25a02_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 09:17:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03E1B3BF13; Thu, 28 May 2009 09:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1243502248; l=8183; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=nyY13NhfxoKEuaSAnwyG3qkG4IM=; b=Xcju219AExlfkY1xqdcuerN8sfNR4VER9Qb+FZJZRxt3W7qVX5lvAXmVJ3BjFTH7CW7 F5g14GnrBk/Zx4R8dqsxWe5CJTFFolhBLOri1lppIt5WDpDFuNNpL3+TAtxoUJisYyqrs ElZWZ8GSEo64j8JBDI4B+gtJk9mx4gF+4iM= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWLBOrxXsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <015c01c9df75$8b5aef50$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:20:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0157_01C9DF86.47C64E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <6D-52D.A.jj.palHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:17:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0157_01C9DF86.47C64E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you decide about keeping the rack or choose a laptop for looping , you should know if you like computers or not. I personally have to handle my laptop at work all day, using it for writing e-mails, contracts, most communication etc. I am always happy to turn off the PC after work and when playing guitar , keeping it in a kind of ANALOG way (although the devices are digital , but you know what I mean). Turning knobs, plug in cables, I like that stuff, you know. I am using the following gear, also for live-gigs - if I have some: - Fender Telecaster; Micro Korg synthesizer - 2 small guitar amps (Laney / Roland) for playing stereo - Boss GT 8 guitar processor - For looping: Boss RC 50 ; sometimes just the smaller Boss DD 20 - and a mixer That=B4s it. Not so much equipement, which makes me quite flexible. No heavy stuff. So even if you play live very often, it is doable. Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Simeon Harris=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! ok, so my current setup is this... triaxis preamp tc g-force eventide eclipse split into=20 tc d2 delay looperlative (with kaoss pad and lexicon mpx-1 in aux sends) all running into a rack mixer and into a mesa 20/20 poweramp and = marshall cabs i've been contemplating ditching all the rack fx and replacing them = with a mac laptop (keeping the triaxis and 20/20) my system at the moment is preset based - i have about 60 sounds = available with cc pedals for variation, with the g-force and eclipse = working in tandem the lp-1 is controlled by a separate midi controller and i have a = control surface as well (which also controls the d2 and lexicon) i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop so i'm thinking about which plugin host will work best, bearing in = mind that i don't really want to have to launch loads of separate = programs on startup and i need everything to be synced to midi clock and = i also need to be able to control it all via midi i'm thinking of using guitar rig for the basic fx, with extra plugins = (including reaktor) for more sonic manipulation....with sooperlooper and = augustus loop running in parallel and feeding more plugins ableton live looks like a good bet, but i'd really just be using the = mixer...but it's nice and stable.=20 so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on = one midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can control = everything the way i am now any other plugin hosts (for audiounits) that might be worth looking = at? is mainstage worth considering? any help would be greatly appreciated! sim ------=_NextPart_000_0157_01C9DF86.47C64E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you decide about keeping the rack or = choose a=20 laptop for
looping , you should know if you like = computers or=20 not.
I personally have to handle my laptop = at work all=20 day, using it for
writing e-mails, contracts, most = communication=20 etc.
I am always happy to turn off the PC = after work=20 and
when playing guitar , keeping it in a = kind of=20 ANALOG way (although
the devices are digital , but you know = what I=20 mean). Turning knobs,
plug in cables, I like that stuff, you=20 know.
I am using the following gear, also for = live-gigs -=20 if I have some:
- Fender Telecaster; Micro Korg=20 synthesizer
- 2 small guitar amps (Laney / Roland) = for playing=20 stereo
- Boss GT 8 guitar = processor
- For looping: Boss RC 50 ; sometimes = just the=20 smaller Boss DD 20
- and a mixer
That=B4s it. Not so much equipement, = which makes me=20 quite flexible.
No heavy stuff. So even if you play = live very=20 often, it is doable.
Christo
www.christojota.de
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Simeon Harris
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 = 2:50=20 PM
Subject: thinking about moving = from rack=20 to laptop...advice please!

ok, so my current setup is this...

triaxis = preamp
tc=20 g-force
eventide eclipse

split into
tc d2 = delay
looperlative=20 (with kaoss pad and lexicon mpx-1 in aux sends)

all running = into a rack=20 mixer and into a mesa 20/20 poweramp and marshall cabs

i've = been=20 contemplating ditching all the rack fx and replacing them with a mac = laptop=20 (keeping the triaxis and 20/20)

my system at the moment is = preset based=20 - i have about 60 sounds available with cc pedals for variation, with = the=20 g-force and eclipse working in tandem
the lp-1 is controlled by a = separate=20 midi controller and i have a control surface as well (which also = controls the=20 d2 and lexicon)

i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot = in a=20 laptop

so i'm thinking about which plugin host will work best, = bearing=20 in mind that i don't really want to have to launch loads of separate = programs=20 on startup and i need everything to be synced to midi clock and i also = need to=20 be able to control it all via midi

i'm thinking of using guitar = rig for=20 the basic fx, with extra plugins (including reaktor) for more sonic=20 manipulation....with sooperlooper and augustus loop running in = parallel and=20 feeding more plugins

ableton live looks like a good bet, but = i'd really=20 just be using the mixer...but it's nice and stable.

so my = questions=20 are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on one midi channel = and put=20 the loopers on other channels, so i can control everything the way i = am=20 now

any other plugin hosts (for audiounits) that might be worth = looking=20 at? is mainstage worth considering?

any help would be greatly=20 appreciated!

sim



------=_NextPart_000_0157_01C9DF86.47C64E40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 09:30:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60B543BF15; Thu, 28 May 2009 09:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CycA43A5V8MEkAPubTHnlO6InETLSV28LK/hAziz8+o=; b=OhG7qg26sIj4lOrMJusX2avXeoDmKUjfZoqIChkAfEPtfx7E81HpNxn79FucufuNMZ PMckK5lZZ7+uqu28vXWNcdkRLG7WowJovsGDKU9HbjH595wNnwisA93oON2tYUKrkA+i 90a0DTiH6JyCUyCILmgwZ/2Z+M0S+5etpHeWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=lIe/HN8XQXRlM7i06BrbcQww8AGDHOAXuvEO1k0vi3fNJbKff9wtBRt1dToo5wOBjo b6DTIF1DrnpDy1XCSEVq53AmujpseWP2SeOLxO7bEmp/UR9lbKGJ/SD+OnDZSxiUdoX4 fYf2jxYOxHwNsAyEKLfCIjM7TTon+KNUobC9M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A1E3E0E.7090400@tiscali.co.uk> References: <004d01c9df5c$de0fea20$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A1E3E0E.7090400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:25:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1dd84f334d6046af5897d Resent-Message-ID: <99FD1.A.L8.EnlHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:30:44 +0000 (UTC) --001485f1dd84f334d6046af5897d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fantastic discussion, guys. it looks like midi and the way it's handled by the host may be the deciding factor. sottilaro's ableton setup is almost exactly what i had in mind originally, but having messed around with bidule and heard per's comments on mainstage, i'm on the fence at the moment. i think i'll have to "mock up" various setups on my imac first to see how they work before taking the plunge and getting a laptop. if i have anything interesting to report, or useful comparisons to make, i'll try and post my conclusions here. its going to be a tough process, because i'm really in love with my soundset, but i've had it a while now and i think it's time for a change. i could spend several weeks reprogramming all my patches, but i'll have to do that with a new laptop setup anyway.... On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:32 AM, andy butler wrote: > Michael Peters wrote: > >> happy with this and still experimenting ... and contrary to what Andy >> says, all these new possibilities sparked my musical imagination big time. >> > > :-) > beautiful > > --001485f1dd84f334d6046af5897d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable fantastic discussion, guys. it looks like midi and the way it's handled= by the host may be the deciding factor. sottilaro's ableton setup is a= lmost exactly what i had in mind originally, but having messed around with = bidule and heard per's comments on mainstage, i'm on the fence at t= he moment. i think i'll have to "mock up" various setups on m= y imac first to see how they work before taking the plunge and getting a la= ptop. if i have anything interesting to report, or useful comparisons to ma= ke, i'll try and post my conclusions here. its going to be a tough proc= ess, because i'm really in love with my soundset, but i've had it a= while now and i think it's time for a change. i could spend several we= eks reprogramming all my patches, but i'll have to do that with a new l= aptop setup anyway....

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:32 AM, andy butler= <akbutler@t= iscali.co.uk> wrote:
Michael Peters wrote:
happy with this and still experimenting ... and contrary to what Andy says,= all these new possibilities sparked my musical imagination big time.

:-)
beautiful


--001485f1dd84f334d6046af5897d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 09:40:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC3213BF1E; Thu, 28 May 2009 09:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mDOKpDX+seTdW7x8D+A12QDGsoyTz64sEv0ilvo6gk4=; b=s6PnQ5yP0i6hMmePUD9GF1OCNmn6ux6U3/RcmgAs1AAFlk4FL+LxiYWE90WSDv0lNw ircSlXWHP2naToThr63h+U3m+qvbY0HCIiIKgZjp3eCoaWfl7hWcBcsi5bCNJW/Z4L6t viEFmPyEYjTWgfT7n8OY+bwXW2nDT/BdOQSg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MGQAqtrpFut30PrwgVplMTTqyJmTQbmarJhj6PB/kzCt1hNS8B2QIWY2McWeUBsNln AYl9S0C28f/FbRVrvE7nbdIalgNz6hpb1gr9wTvCgSF2JHVU6j2XhNqnbEN6l0DGvZUc +EsnQqGIgReX9z6Cjjqkr1OH5kYfc927TCFrk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:40:54 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905280240v64ac3036vb9cdad0ac700c075@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Meditative looping improvisation, and some thughst regarding improvised live looping.. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:40:54 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > when i read=C2=A0this by Matthias Grob recognised myself in BIG way.. > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tips/Plhints.html#hint16 > Looping for my is meditative activity that gives me a LOT.. Reacting to w= hat > I hear, making mistakes in to something meaningful.. > I also enjoy presenting the improvisations in a raw form so that the > listener hears the process, the good and the bad.. maybe not the listener > friendliest way of presenting the music, OR? I think many on this list agree with you this! And I think Matthias is just a bit too humble. When we toured together here in Sweden back in 2003 there were some occasions where he made a tremendous impact on listeners by playing an improvised piece that basically started as one long note. Then adding layers and layers of the same note, like a droan mantra, slowly expanding it to become more melodic and finally sounding quite string orchestra like (polyphonic distortion guitar, one dist per string). When I do a lecture or a clinic I like to start out discussing what music is. The background is that music is often, inaccurately, filed under "entertainment". In my opinion musicians and composers are actually closer to doctors, health care staff, fire brigades, therapists etc. What we do offers people an option to heal themselves by tuning in with the most universal of all languages. That's where the focus should be. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 10:05:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 436C03BF1F; Thu, 28 May 2009 10:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1243505141; l=2188; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=vyD9PtcRtpVOJVWH2SVTBteRJH4=; b=rdRdS/9k5qWRkgY9eo113j8R+eTXJt4KjgOpt/lsTyymtrjFG0MjYSzMFXP7M+4uNXu o8rVG7oNILhbyBrTS/HYu2wvHfVfuwlmZYlhXvApbbAinJ0d2i3SEDt8Avkhj/jZbnQ2A AH4rnJNBrwr3Z1NaXMK5pnfksxD5A5fCLQM= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWLBOrxXsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <019401c9df7c$47ae8c10$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <66f9cc1e0905280240v64ac3036vb9cdad0ac700c075@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Meditative looping improvisation, and some thughst regarding improvised live looping.. Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:05:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <0WamvB.A.pGC.2HmHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:05:42 +0000 (UTC) "In my opinion musicians and composers are actually closer to doctors, health care staff, fire brigades, therapists etc. What we do offers people an option to heal themselves by tuning in with the most universal of all languages. That's where the focus should be." (Per Boysen wrote) That´s what music could be, Per ! And then it is magic ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Meditative looping improvisation, and some thughst regarding improvised live looping.. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > when i read this by Matthias Grob recognised myself in BIG way.. > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tips/Plhints.html#hint16 > Looping for my is meditative activity that gives me a LOT.. Reacting to what > I hear, making mistakes in to something meaningful.. > I also enjoy presenting the improvisations in a raw form so that the > listener hears the process, the good and the bad.. maybe not the listener > friendliest way of presenting the music, OR? I think many on this list agree with you this! And I think Matthias is just a bit too humble. When we toured together here in Sweden back in 2003 there were some occasions where he made a tremendous impact on listeners by playing an improvised piece that basically started as one long note. Then adding layers and layers of the same note, like a droan mantra, slowly expanding it to become more melodic and finally sounding quite string orchestra like (polyphonic distortion guitar, one dist per string). When I do a lecture or a clinic I like to start out discussing what music is. The background is that music is often, inaccurately, filed under "entertainment". In my opinion musicians and composers are actually closer to doctors, health care staff, fire brigades, therapists etc. What we do offers people an option to heal themselves by tuning in with the most universal of all languages. That's where the focus should be. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 13:17:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D5E13BE91; Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BMYfDkiJHP2GpZJLH8/GX53S/hay2n5rVzLPFzXUlcs=; b=gSyz0GXVoyLcgIeK7v8s6Ueb+00n0ok97BK+CdyqF4TrzhIJA1m0o05HzAC41QpIgb RzyLvMW+j7UQrdsGgKBJVJGS64GcJOsQq8asZyVQ9bTpQDSV6fNdYb/nzkk+mEYA1/jp PhZJQA7N3opfN7OZ6eebryJKeZWzCdE8QflPE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hMSnN43EkR7/O0PaVxNKFdP2D9ymLsE9PKlJQqN5XoyVUQ6yQeUaBUbjkMuI2sxPZ3 a2east3H2TqK+hYDrutOuvA2Kgyz9oytb2VjmnWzoT7ubteMsJYwKCj9xYZeawwV4AjL raLXCidMFSockRX//jqhydE1WcK4EHrDMpQ8k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9e0440a60905241727y6f3f5f69h588df9b1d6f66448@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:17:15 -0300 Message-ID: <97e289ef0905280617t6e6cc101o41e151846bf10c14@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave: Debut RadioBoise.org Show on Free Improv, Creative, Experimental, and Electro-Acoustic Music From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_F?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:16 +0000 (UTC) very nice! i invite you to check this music/lyrics improvisation project from Buenos Aires. our idea is always start from zero and see what happens every time. www.myspace.com/musicadeorsa thanks! On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Every other Saturday. So my next show will be in 13 days. I'm glad you > enjoyed it! > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Kris this is really great! =A0listening now and really digging the dark > percussion/piano/sax and voice stuff. =A0How often are you going to produ= ce > this? > Jim > > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Krispen Hartung > wrote: >> >> Playing now.... >> >> FreeWave >> http://radioboise.org/=A0 (Saturday, May=A023 from 1-3pm Mountain Standa= rd >> Time - MST) >> Click "LISTEN HERE" >> >> If you miss it, the link to the podcast will appear tonight at >> http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ >> >> "FreeWave features music within the free improvisation, electro-acoustic= , >> experimental, and creative music genres. From the complex and frenzied s= ax >> expressions of Evan Parker to the extraterrestrial sounds of Sun Ra, >> FreeWave is all this and more, into the obscure and beyond with the new >> millennium=92s creative electro-acoustic music scene. FreeWave will push= your >> listening boundaries into new and challenging territories of creative mu= sic. >> Not for the faint of heart or remotely formulaic and predictable, FreeWa= ve >> will alter your musical perspectives irrevocably." >> >> Play List >> >> Artist(s): Evan Parker, Ghost in the Machine, and Martin Klapper >> Song: Magnitude >> Album: New Excursions (recorded live at the Copenhagen International >> Experimental Festival) >> >> Artist(s): Muhal Richard Abrams, George Lewis, and Roscoe Mitchell >> Song: Soundhear >> Album: Streaming >> >> Artist(s): Bob Ostertag, Phil Minton, Gerry Hemingway, Mark Dresser >> Song: Ink >> Album: Verbatim, Flesh and Blood >> >> Artist(s): John Coltrane >> Song: Mars >> Album: Interstellar Space >> >> Artist(s): Dempa (Pianist Aki Takase (Japan), violinist Aleksander >> Kolkowski (England) and drummer Tony Buck (Australia) >> Song: Where Europe Begins.... >> Album: Nine Fragments >> >> Artist(s): Derek Bailey and Agusti Fernandez >> Song: Casa Leopoldo >> Album: Barcelona >> >> Artist(s): Cecil Taylor >> Song: Enter, Evening (Soft Line Structure) >> Album: Unit Structures >> >> Artist(s): Emily Hay and Motoko Honda >> Song: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival - Friday >> Album: n/a >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kris >> >> Kris Hartung >> www.krispenhartung.com >> http://b-cimf.com >> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festiv= al/37918746335 >> http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival >> info@krispenhartung.com >> 1-208-724-5603 > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 14:43:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 813973BE80; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:43:20 UTC Message-Id: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Looperlative questions Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 07:36:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:43:21 +0000 (UTC) I'm contemplating moving from the EDP to the Looperlative. Yeah, it would be nice to keep both, but part of the point of this is to reduce rack space consumption. But this leads to some questions: * Am I correct in my impression that the core model for the Looperlative is essentially 8 parallel Line6 DL-4s -- i.e., the primary controls are record/overdub and play. Is there even a play once function? * Is there support for multiply? I've seen a chart that says yes. I've seen threads that say no. Is this expected to be handled by recording a separate loop for the extended portion? * I've seen talk of a cue function for providing command synchronization at various boundaries. Did this ever get implemented? Thanks. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 15:05:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C66953BE85; Thu, 28 May 2009 15:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.121.155] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: OT: Genetic Basis Of Musical Aptitude Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:05:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0638_01C9DF73.74ED9490" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2009 15:05:38.0689 (UTC) FILETIME=[C2C26F10:01C9DFA5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:05:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0638_01C9DF73.74ED9490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Genetic Basis Of Musical Aptitude: Neurobiology Of Musicality Related To = Intrinsic Attachment Behavior http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090526093925.htm "The results suggest that the neurobiology of music perception and = production is related to the pathways affecting intrinsic attachment = behavior." "...music perception and creativity in music are linked to the same = phenotypic spectrum of human cognitive social skills, like human bonding = and altruism both associated with AVPR1A. We have shown for the first = time in the molecular level that music perception has an attachment = creating impact." Kris Hartung info@krispenhartung.com http://www.krispenhartung.com/personal/ 208-724-5603 ------=_NextPart_000_0638_01C9DF73.74ED9490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0638_01C9DF73.74ED9490-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 15:20:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BD2F3BE86; Thu, 28 May 2009 15:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> Subject: Re: Looperlative questions Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:20:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <-1jJDD.A.GdD.nuqHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:20:07 +0000 (UTC) > * Am I correct in my impression that the core model for the Looperlative > is essentially 8 parallel Line6 DL-4s -- i.e., the primary controls are > record/overdub and play. Is there even a play once function? No, that isn't correct. The LP1 is 8 parallel stereo loopers. However, it is more powerful the the DL-4. It is possible to program a button to do the play once function. > * Is there support for multiply? I've seen a chart that says yes. I've > seen threads that say no. Is this expected to be handled by recording a > separate loop for the extended portion? Yes, there is a multiply that lets you extend a loop by multiples of the loop length. In most cases, it is better to use a second track that is longer than the first by a multiple. > * I've seen talk of a cue function for providing command synchronization > at various boundaries. Did this ever get implemented? The cue function allows for seemless transitions from one section of a song to another. There are a variety of synchronization functions. What specifically are you looking for? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 16:06:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1860D3BE85; Thu, 28 May 2009 16:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:06:11 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4A1BDEE3.3020704@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090528160611.112120@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A1BDEE3.3020704@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/e8sspLpveMrye85Rb9uC3n2c6Km6ArbXjGFd/LG Pqnpe8HkQ5X3I/Jlc50oc/9hBShgda/QQpZg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: JNNsaqhKeSEqQMh4kHUhsqZ+IGRvb0B1 X-FuHaFi: 0.6899999999999999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:06:14 +0000 (UTC) thanks for your in-depth feedback, Andy. >one thing...I now have greater admiration for anyone who can make this box work for them. Nobody said it was easy ;-)) I'd just like to add one general thought: The RC-50 has it's strenghts and weaknesses. But it also certainly has depth. So I'd like encourage anyone trying it to give it time before jumping to quick conclusions. It has a lot of flexible options worth trying out. best regards Buzap -- Nur bis 31.05.: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 16:15:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A363A3BE85; Thu, 28 May 2009 16:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> Subject: RE: Looperlative questions Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:15:11 -0700 Message-ID: <95B61597725E4EA18BB51F1E632D437E@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcnfrElYFvzB6IZdSrSWdtlAAfSf6gAAPtzQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Eight independent loops that can be synced or not synced, with independence over track length, track speed, panning, and direction. There are multiply functions, and both cue and play once functions. I rarely use the multiply function as it's just as easy to create a longer loop length than the original simply by recording a longer loop on a new track. This is, and I repeat, a different beast than an EDP, and though they share some similarities, you would be wise to throw out any preconceived ideas that it will act like an EDP. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:37 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looperlative questions I'm contemplating moving from the EDP to the Looperlative. Yeah, it would be nice to keep both, but part of the point of this is to reduce rack space consumption. But this leads to some questions: * Am I correct in my impression that the core model for the Looperlative is essentially 8 parallel Line6 DL-4s -- i.e., the primary controls are record/overdub and play. Is there even a play once function? * Is there support for multiply? I've seen a chart that says yes. I've seen threads that say no. Is this expected to be handled by recording a separate loop for the extended portion? * I've seen talk of a cue function for providing command synchronization at various boundaries. Did this ever get implemented? Thanks. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 16:32:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84C1E3BE8A; Thu, 28 May 2009 16:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1c283a7f-1269-4db6-807f-b4afa7aed6bc_" X-Originating-IP: [99.246.95.3] From: Dave Lauzon To: , Subject: RE: Looperlative questions Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:32:13 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <95B61597725E4EA18BB51F1E632D437E@williamsteed> References: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> <95B61597725E4EA18BB51F1E632D437E@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2009 16:32:15.0735 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC70B870:01C9DFB1] Resent-Message-ID: <9aYAfC.A.2vF.QyrHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:32:16 +0000 (UTC) --_1c283a7f-1269-4db6-807f-b4afa7aed6bc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable " I'm contemplating moving from the EDP to the Looperlative." Best thing I ever did. Dave > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Looperlative questions > Date: Thu=2C 28 May 2009 09:15:11 -0700 >=20 > Eight independent loops that can be synced or not synced=2C with independ= ence > over track length=2C track speed=2C panning=2C and direction. There are m= ultiply > functions=2C and both cue and play once functions. I rarely use the mult= iply > function as it's just as easy to create a longer loop length than the > original simply by recording a longer loop on a new track. This is=2C an= d I > repeat=2C a different beast than an EDP=2C and though they share some > similarities=2C you would be wise to throw out any preconceived ideas tha= t it > will act like an EDP. > Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday=2C May 28=2C 2009 7:37 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Looperlative questions >=20 > I'm contemplating moving from the EDP to the Looperlative. Yeah=2C it =20 > would be nice to keep both=2C but part of the point of this is to reduce = =20 > rack space consumption. But this leads to some questions: >=20 > * Am I correct in my impression that the core model for the =20 > Looperlative is essentially 8 parallel Line6 DL-4s -- i.e.=2C the =20 > primary controls are record/overdub and play. Is there even a play =20 > once function? >=20 > * Is there support for multiply? I've seen a chart that says yes. I've =20 > seen threads that say no. Is this expected to be handled by recording =20 > a separate loop for the extended portion? >=20 > * I've seen talk of a cue function for providing command =20 > synchronization at various boundaries. Did this ever get implemented? >=20 > Thanks. > Mark >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends=2C in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9660826= --_1c283a7f-1269-4db6-807f-b4afa7aed6bc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
" I'm contemplating moving from the EDP to the Looperlative."

Be= st thing I ever did.

Dave

>=3B From: billwalker@baymoon.com=
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: RE: L= ooperlative questions
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 28 May 2009 09:15:11 -0700
= >=3B
>=3B Eight independent loops that can be synced or not synced= =2C with independence
>=3B over track length=2C track speed=2C panning= =2C and direction. There are multiply
>=3B functions=2C and both cue a= nd play once functions. I rarely use the multiply
>=3B function as it= 's just as easy to create a longer loop length than the
>=3B original = simply by recording a longer loop on a new track. This is=2C and I
>= =3B repeat=2C a different beast than an EDP=2C and though they share some>=3B similarities=2C you would be wise to throw out any preconceived id= eas that it
>=3B will act like an EDP.
>=3B Bill
>=3B -----= Original Message-----
>=3B From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com= ]
>=3B Sent: Thursday=2C May 28=2C 2009 7:37 AM
>=3B To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Looperlative questions
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>=3B I'm contemplating moving from the EDP to the Looperlative.= Yeah=2C it
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>=3B rack space consumption. But this leads to= some questions:
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>=3B Looperlative is essentially 8 parallel L= ine6 DL-4s -- i.e.=2C the
>=3B primary controls are record/overdub a= nd play. Is there even a play
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>= =3B * Is there support for multiply? I've seen a chart that says yes. I've =
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Thanking you for your attention as I look forward to your prompt response at my email address fidelityenquiries@financier.com Best Regards, Paul Siggers Head, Audit Control Fidelity Finance(UK) fidelityenquiries@financier.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 17:03:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80D6B3BE8E; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ccm7x8w7BhV6uPesSfrea1UD+FbJjGgKToFSrhQ6OiIPbz6xTVQzx6dLcNyDyVVDzppPMn+incd+nLfJMUhOouPeeH/i1ZYzKQZP2WUKJgs8A6cOeEwikGkFfthkA3c0; Message-ID: <20090528120319.9lgw6ch61ccwkoso@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:03:19 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative questions References: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Mark Hamburg : > I'm contemplating moving from the EDP to the Looperlative. Yeah, it > would be nice to keep both, but part of the point of this is to reduce > rack space consumption. But this leads to some questions: > > * Am I correct in my impression that the core model for the > Looperlative is essentially 8 parallel Line6 DL-4s -- i.e., the primary > controls are record/overdub and play. Is there even a play once > function? > For each user-defined function, you can program up to eight commands. =20 Thus, a user-defined "Play Once" would have two steps: "Play Now" then =20 "Stop". The loop would start immediately and will stop when it reaches the end =20 of the loop. The User-defined commands are available via 4 programmable user =20 buttons on the front panel, MIDI CC messages, and MIDI PGM Change =20 messages. (My wish list item is to allow Note messages to be =20 programmable, too.) > > * Is there support for multiply? I've seen a chart that says yes. I've > seen threads that say no. Is this expected to be handled by recording a > separate loop for the extended portion? > Yes, you can multiply like crazy! For example, you could record one bar then expand it to 12 by programming: "Double" then "Triple". Note that, given the eight steps, you could =20 create very large mults with a single command. > > * I've seen talk of a cue function for providing command > synchronization at various boundaries. Did this ever get implemented? > > There is a cue command, but I haven't put it to use yet. I've owned =20 my LP1 for 1 1/2 years and I'm still exploring it. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 17:12:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEA793BE86; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=COqW4ZZWW5OSK66sjo5G55jks0C4hnW3mrO/OfebFCftkUA/3lurs5ehf7B31KP67UPqA3Mg4ygkoMoazV3ARiHgobrxs12aoZuz81FwowtZbtD8DPUvcI+KPBLUgYde; Message-ID: <20090528121227.npftvoa1sk8sc8ws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:12:27 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative questions (correction) References: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> <20090528120319.9lgw6ch61ccwkoso@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20090528120319.9lgw6ch61ccwkoso@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <9KZyDD.A.mSH.8XsHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Correction I wrote: > > For example, you could record one bar then expand it to 12 by programming: > > "Double" then "Triple". > I should have written: "Quaduple" then Triple" -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 17:57:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1C6C3BE7E; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o4wB6o64xqlmNhGBJ7wXYdw4UKTQy7w0Xb2ufYMaYjg=; b=e/3tZFIeKAH8dB6OuJg1H+aVACS6NMd8GhSI8zFfaS6IWzEWaQF874raFmMfSAqB+I kaK5zybUcbebAUiGV9b9ZMgH/LC1tFG/slBLSt4qKdnaA7OUsmpHOc2A0Rv8DABYWd7z WUb+nuJVPGcE9JTRMKRI3KWA4eBDoHaFPFCM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=kvbANeINTWFN2N6XfkNhykZHumL+wUEyKZhXIZMhjw7zmie2eHcCpUL4/EW+Hk+9TW QAZol9LM8s3k+FMfE3Kls6A1UbP/8/uwbLb9ZcE/wgOQnWxEP71A6l9f+9MAzlKaii38 qVKWvM5DQPqq0UusMwEK7VvgRiLO5FuJumigg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:57:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looperlative questions From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7cb5cf27884046afcb150 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:57:37 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7cb5cf27884046afcb150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think what mark's getting at here are the quantisation features we were discussing a while ago. one of the ideas put forward was to insert a function into a string of commands which would then quantise those commands following the function according to some global, or non-global, criteria. the aim was to quantise certain behaviours so they occurred at the loop boundary (for example). this hasn't been implemented yet, but i think bob is thinking about it....although there is a replace function which can be quantised to occur at a user defined subdivision of the loop length. (mucho fun with a momentary pedal and the number of subdivisions can be different for each loop) sim On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > > > * I've seen talk of a cue function for providing command synchronization >> at various boundaries. Did this ever get implemented? >> > > The cue function allows for seemless transitions from one section of a song > to another. There are a variety of synchronization functions. What > specifically are you looking for? > > --001485f7cb5cf27884046afcb150 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i think what mark's getting at here are the quantisation features we we= re discussing a while ago. one of the ideas put forward was to insert a fun= ction into a string of commands which would then quantise those commands fo= llowing the function according to some global, or non-global, criteria. the= aim was to quantise certain behaviours so they occurred at the loop bounda= ry (for example).

this hasn't been implemented yet, but i think bob is thinking about= it....although there is a replace function which can be quantised to occur= at a user defined subdivision of the loop length. (mucho fun with a moment= ary pedal and the number of subdivisions can be different for each loop)
sim

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:20 PM, = Bob Amstadt <bob@am= stadt.com> wrote:


* I've seen talk of a cue function for providing command =A0synchroniza= tion at various boundaries. Did this ever get implemented?

The cue function allows for seemless transitions from one section of a song= to another. =A0There are a variety of synchronization functions. =A0What s= pecifically are you looking for?


--001485f7cb5cf27884046afcb150-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 18:22:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB75A3BE7E; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 61619 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:22:21 UTC Message-ID: <20090528142217.O7XYD.3420986.root@mp15> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:22:17 -0700 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Genetic Basis Of Musical Aptitude Cc: Krispen Hartung In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.118.35.162 by ssomail.charter.net; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:22:17 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: <0ZUUN.A.XyB.dZtHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Very interesting Kris. ---- Krispen Hartung wrote: ============= Genetic Basis Of Musical Aptitude: Neurobiology Of Musicality Related To Intrinsic Attachment Behavior http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090526093925.htm "The results suggest that the neurobiology of music perception and production is related to the pathways affecting intrinsic attachment behavior." "...music perception and creativity in music are linked to the same phenotypic spectrum of human cognitive social skills, like human bonding and altruism both associated with AVPR1A. We have shown for the first time in the molecular level that music perception has an attachment creating impact." Kris Hartung info@krispenhartung.com http://www.krispenhartung.com/personal/ 208-724-5603 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 18:50:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA0AC3BE81; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:50:41 UTC Message-ID: <003a01c9dfc4$35fac220$0902a8c0@raem50> From: "Reid Ertsgaard" To: References: <20090528142217.O7XYD.3420986.root@mp15> Subject: Re: OT: Genetic Basis Of Musical Aptitude Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:43:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:50:41 +0000 (UTC) This explains loopers. Completely rampantly overactive AVPR1A gene! Reid Think Pay attention The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "Krispen Hartung" Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: OT: Genetic Basis Of Musical Aptitude Very interesting Kris. ---- Krispen Hartung wrote: ============= Genetic Basis Of Musical Aptitude: Neurobiology Of Musicality Related To Intrinsic Attachment Behavior http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090526093925.htm "The results suggest that the neurobiology of music perception and production is related to the pathways affecting intrinsic attachment behavior." "...music perception and creativity in music are linked to the same phenotypic spectrum of human cognitive social skills, like human bonding and altruism both associated with AVPR1A. We have shown for the first time in the molecular level that music perception has an attachment creating impact." 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 19:34:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D59EF3BE85; Thu, 28 May 2009 19:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+1R0lsK+UbQ+UWQjq1Fe1mO5JI8vm0F4gL/zNXx38/s=; b=S/+d4BQLoFzRDDsDKf1V4xd6BswBFJADfBOPaNtjg2MiXjneJwsiSa0NoQUglweFkA 1rk8dH6aWfrtBr/NqhX5IcNZCyk5EBBrdSSC9n+5MNiqaVejlKRewqiSvD5elI1PLTzn 1LrsYHNnANmZ5Ke2+R/iAlLPUIv44Uy4EQHvM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MFfZhIsIUqPdOdvK+31Ao13R+pEs+9o+mHxxQ7MRtuw7ZGC3BvTY1Df5j+1Tle1fxI 2oz03/xkPbV060VPoaJFTiuwNQhb96X9y4PGBgnogd2oqGgmI6eLWdbY0yzBnLs3yDqn qpwiyVe3BYuUMhG9yc1XGUXxFHEod+aZzdmJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004d01c9df5c$de0fea20$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <004d01c9df5c$de0fea20$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:34:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Me too. Before I I wanted to use my drum machine as a carrier for a vocoder, it involved a bunch of reconfiguring of a very complex set up. 9 out of 10 times I'd think of something and realize the work I had to do to move things around and repatch everything and I'd give up. If a cool idea took nearly an evening to set up and get working right, and there are not many evenings I could spend doing music in the first place, you have to make sacrifices. Sometimes I'd buy duplicates of gear for dedicated processing just to get more flexibility. Now, I don't make those sacrifices. Oh, and that vocoder? When I bought the hardware one it was a single entity. Now it can be as many as my processor allows. Same with all the synths and effects. A configuration that would take all night to set up and thousands of dollars to duplicate now happen in minutes. Yeah, some degree of tactile response has been lost and that's a shame. Novation and Automap have done a lot in the way of making the software world better, but it's not perfect. I imagine at some point things like the Jazz Mutant Lemur will be inexpensive enough to become commonplace and then it's game over: Computers win. Even now, I'm so used to programming effects and synth software with a mouse that the only time I need "control" is via floor pedals (2 Behringer FCB1010s and a IK Multimedia Stealthpedal do the trick) I'm an instrumentalist, not really a knob tweaker. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> the rack is really heavy and i'm not getting any younger.... > > hi Sim, > > these is the main reason why I ditched my rack and replaced everything wi= th > software (I'm using Bidule too but on a Windows laptop). You probably won= 't > be able to recreate everything exactly as it was but then, you'll be find= ing > many new=A0exciting possibilities.=A0I'm very happy with this and still > experimenting ... and contrary to what Andy says, all these new > possibilities sparked my musical imagination big time. > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 19:55:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E260E3BE89; Thu, 28 May 2009 19:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 416 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 28 May 2009 19:55:25 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt McCabe Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:48:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <0DIpjD.A.HdG.twuHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Simeon, I would recommend against changing your rig if you are happy with the way it sounds. Yes, the weight factor is always an issue, but you aren't going to care if your rig weighs 2 ounces if it sounds like crap! Even with the best software emulations it isn't going to sound like your current rig. Similar? Probably. But, is similar good enough when you currently have the "voice of god"? Just my two cents. Matt On May 27, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'll keep researching....my rig sounds like the voice of god at the > moment and there's a software update for the eclipse coming soon as > well, so it'll take a fair amount of convincing to make me take the > leap...but it's inevitable....eventually... > > many thanks > > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 20:20:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 796D63BE8D; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001701c9dfd1$caea4740$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 23:20:48 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C9DFEA.EF309690" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:20:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C9DFEA.EF309690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable exactly! :) i think the best is to have 2 seperate rigs. one with hardware and the = other with software. the approach, aesthetic on these platform should = definitely be very different. you can never get the same exact sound on = software anyway. i did a tour in usa in march. i recorded an album with miguel frasconi = in ny. for 2 pieces we recorded his old dave smith analog synthesizer. = oh my god! what a sound! i could never get that sound using soft synths. = i would spend hours just get soft synth sounds sit well in the mix. a = lot of professional producers got tried of this and they have begun to = use vintage and new analog synths and hardware fx again. also there is a = new market for tube analog mixers recently. ( tl audio etc ) just a thought. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt McCabe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice = please! Simeon, I would recommend against changing your rig if you are happy with the = way it sounds. Yes, the weight factor is always an issue, but you =20 aren't going to care if your rig weighs 2 ounces if it sounds like =20 crap! Even with the best software emulations it isn't going to sound = like your current rig. Similar? Probably. But, is similar good =20 enough when you currently have the "voice of god"? Just my two cents. Matt On May 27, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'll keep researching....my rig sounds like the voice of god at the = > moment and there's a software update for the eclipse coming soon as = > well, so it'll take a fair amount of convincing to make me take the = > leap...but it's inevitable....eventually... > > many thanks > > sim ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C9DFEA.EF309690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
exactly! :)
 
i think the best is to have 2 seperate rigs. one with hardware and = the=20 other with software. the approach, aesthetic on these platform should = definitely=20 be very different. you can never get the same exact sound on software=20 anyway.
 
i did a tour in usa in march. i recorded an album with miguel = frasconi in=20 ny. for 2 pieces we recorded his old dave smith analog synthesizer. oh = my god!=20 what a sound! i could never get that sound using soft synths. i would = spend=20 hours just get soft synth sounds sit well in the mix. a lot of = professional=20 producers got tried of this and they have begun to use vintage and new = analog=20 synths and hardware fx again. also there is a new market for tube analog = mixers=20 recently. ( tl audio etc )
 
just a thought.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
 
"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus
 
"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt=20 McCabe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 = 10:48=20 PM
Subject: Re: thinking about = moving from=20 rack to laptop...advice please!

Simeon,

I would recommend against changing your = rig if=20 you are happy with the 
way it sounds.  Yes, the weight = factor=20 is always an issue, but you 
aren't going to care if your rig = weighs=20 2 ounces if it sounds like 
crap!  Even with the best = software=20 emulations it isn't going to sound 
like your current = rig. =20 Similar?  Probably.  But, is similar good 
enough = when you=20 currently have the "voice of god"?

Just my two=20 cents.

Matt

On May 27, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Simeon Harris=20 wrote:

> i'll keep researching....my rig sounds like the = voice of=20 god at the 
> moment and there's a software update for the = eclipse=20 coming soon as 
> well, so it'll take a fair amount of = convincing=20 to make me take the 
> leap...but it's=20 inevitable....eventually...
>
> many = thanks
>
>=20 sim
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C9DFEA.EF309690-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 21:23:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABD633BE85; Thu, 28 May 2009 21:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=i03gdIv1ZTMczGZlhZYtl1jd8fbIXsgKiX8YB3G/VmQ=; b=bhjL+voVKiUTTwWO2EK+VJhHI9mw4GDTWQgoo5PE4O7NIIFDOrXgzcg0UlTNxGU59c sv7JCftoHAo09A5+nz26N5rRdgXw74wakI1gWGO8vqwY9TIn7xcAzffTdrLaNQIHmTna rZTFmnoB0eMRkdhWAaC8Mw1YaoaeJ+zLHlpc0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=spE5YWFUGZ08aAJE920PymaLGWwoLo+WvDPlLrDpqbnpM67NQI1ix7x/hJAv0jMD9J 3br3/PXQ5YpiPjYEhe9diYPGvaHBIvbmMBUh/46HFOYTtw9KAEfr/C8YB9fadzoZWn4/ MsBOX+2G4ec5Kdaq5cVXp/KQd7SrZNUswALv4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:23:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:23:40 +0000 (UTC) First of all, there is no god, let's get that out of the way. ;) I notice no depreciation of overall "sound" compared to when I was hardware bound. Most hardware these days is software running on dedicated hardware anyway. Special dedicated hardware might do it faster with less latency, but 1+1 is always 2. This becomes a more slippery slope when emulating pure analog hardware, but there have been some amazing advancements over the last few years. I've owned a ton of guitar amps over the years (literally a ton) and I don't think my guitar sound has ever been better than what I'm able to come up with using various flavors of Amplitube. (note: this is an emulation of stomp box effects, amps, and a mic'd cab and rack gear, so it's not going to be the same as a real amp in a room) As for synths? I hear a lot of people say analog hasn't and maybe will never be perfectly emulated, but I say that's poppycock. I spent a lot of time looking for this "analog magic" and I found next to nothing. Experts are continuously baffled by blind comparisons. Listen to some demos of one of the more "vintagey" VAs I've found: http://admiralquality.com/products/Poly-Ana/ Guitar players didn't fare really well in this showdown: http://emusician.com/tutorials/showdown-clubhouse-amp-software/index.html So, will your software rig sound the same as your current hardware rig? No. It most definitely won't. Will it sound worse? That's up to you. In many ways I think my setup sounds better than it ever has. Luckily, most software comes with a demo so you can try before you buy. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Matt McCabe wrote= : > Simeon, > > I would recommend against changing your rig if you are happy with the way= it > sounds. =A0Yes, the weight factor is always an issue, but you aren't goin= g to > care if your rig weighs 2 ounces if it sounds like crap! =A0Even with the= best > software emulations it isn't going to sound like your current rig. =A0Sim= ilar? > =A0Probably. =A0But, is similar good enough when you currently have the "= voice > of god"? > > Just my two cents. > > Matt > > On May 27, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > >> i'll keep researching....my rig sounds like the voice of god at the mome= nt >> and there's a software update for the eclipse coming soon as well, so it= 'll >> take a fair amount of convincing to make me take the leap...but it's >> inevitable....eventually... >> >> many thanks >> >> sim > > From oksana@tam.ukma.kiev.ua Thu May 28 21:24:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from tam.ukma.kiev.ua (tam.ukma.kiev.ua [194.44.142.246]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A1E3BE7E for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 21:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tam.ukma.kiev.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tam.ukma.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n4SKnbQ5059730 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 23:49:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from oksana@tam.ukma.kiev.ua) Received: (from oksana@localhost) by tam.ukma.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n4SKnbS3059729; Thu, 28 May 2009 23:49:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from oksana) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 23:49:37 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <200905282049.n4SKnbS3059729@tam.ukma.kiev.ua> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 21:47:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EBFF3BE87; Thu, 28 May 2009 21:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=O04WVso1dRiMArZSi/5V23fnLFg39OLFrj3JF0oP/Ig=; b=UWKJrcPptcO5QU5Z9Jo0oeMU8fKQH2Gz0VBFIRQdwTuuGTTny2ayoGi/Pyy+n/j3iJ DhxLyDIZz5qcLedXeqFNT8s1nNprOo3zo/3C6zsPEHiU1Vr6zFPlHNgfbR9uJbRq6qoU 8tfP9TalWnd0Kn8lcAGMeWcUwmxQTGqRMj53s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PgC08kl8GvCb31ZDkaXaoB9i/TawYmejynxqdvFdsO7hg77OSb9P0z2LuAsgRg95XU OweuMzd6emm6SeJhnDl8APE3+uBWm6ptCFFwnGWNHHAtM9CfC7/RUtdvWiu8qkhtGgwY RDQ+Ge8s79ChmevtZpBKbcMThiOfRVWYa4abA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 23:47:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:47:52 +0000 (UTC) i think sw is great when the setup needed is really big and you have to take care of all those zthrillions of good quality cables and matched connections. this is expensive in hardware, but sound cables are so extremelly clean in the modular sw world :-). 2009/5/28, Mark Sottilaro : > First of all, there is no god, let's get that out of the way. ;) > > I notice no depreciation of overall "sound" compared to when I was > hardware bound. Most hardware these days is software running on > dedicated hardware anyway. Special dedicated hardware might do it > faster with less latency, but 1+1 is always 2. This becomes a more > slippery slope when emulating pure analog hardware, but there have > been some amazing advancements over the last few years. I've owned a > ton of guitar amps over the years (literally a ton) and I don't think > my guitar sound has ever been better than what I'm able to come up > with using various flavors of Amplitube. (note: this is an emulation > of stomp box effects, amps, and a mic'd cab and rack gear, so it's not > going to be the same as a real amp in a room) As for synths? I hear > a lot of people say analog hasn't and maybe will never be perfectly > emulated, but I say that's poppycock. I spent a lot of time looking > for this "analog magic" and I found next to nothing. Experts are > continuously baffled by blind comparisons. Listen to some demos of > one of the more "vintagey" VAs I've found: > > http://admiralquality.com/products/Poly-Ana/ > > Guitar players didn't fare really well in this showdown: > > http://emusician.com/tutorials/showdown-clubhouse-amp-software/index.html > > So, will your software rig sound the same as your current hardware > rig? No. It most definitely won't. Will it sound worse? That's up > to you. In many ways I think my setup sounds better than it ever > has. Luckily, most software comes with a demo so you can try before > you buy. > > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Matt McCabe wro= te: >> Simeon, >> >> I would recommend against changing your rig if you are happy with the wa= y >> it >> sounds. =A0Yes, the weight factor is always an issue, but you aren't goi= ng >> to >> care if your rig weighs 2 ounces if it sounds like crap! =A0Even with th= e >> best >> software emulations it isn't going to sound like your current rig. >> =A0Similar? >> =A0Probably. =A0But, is similar good enough when you currently have the = "voice >> of god"? >> >> Just my two cents. >> >> Matt >> >> On May 27, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >> >>> i'll keep researching....my rig sounds like the voice of god at the >>> moment >>> and there's a software update for the eclipse coming soon as well, so >>> it'll >>> take a fair amount of convincing to make me take the leap...but it's >>> inevitable....eventually... >>> >>> many thanks >>> >>> sim >> >> > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 21:58:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D368D3BE8B; Thu, 28 May 2009 21:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sjp9xbLdTzNCG3gxMZMqFpA9EMlWlbt9OxI1jhYA/0Y=; b=F2qDyOI0s1FQjxYorAu3t5turtVDdFz2nqJTrmgIzThoYvbiq/ui9ITzVHsU/3laHR BXYiKPswmJyqhjesGZVvp/09gXn8sbuywbu6phsXQMg1puDyxx8kglRlUDtnljo9cujM XgPHm2KDvmHAoCTXaOMmE6B3aCPKmJMAb9kJY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dLgzylNQ4GkIiVdNrUDKddBDQLvJb+ys5+WFxmuqUmpr+eW2ZSA6vfzaqK11iO0yxk 6JLEf75Rlgbqpf6pS4xzhlnMfY/BGOJ5bfIkx/sCeDK24/USZHapfH2bEWyToXlW8Hb1 rPwUHciG5FeHdaYw33R1IXREpY7FfuQ33g6E8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 23:58:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: small percussion mic From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:58:20 +0000 (UTC) i'm thinking of adding some body or small percussion loopery at gigs so, can anybody direct me to some good (i mean decent sound but not expensive) mic with strong rejection on all sides except front? mic idiot here. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From oksana@tam.ukma.kiev.ua Thu May 28 22:08:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from tam.ukma.kiev.ua (tam.ukma.kiev.ua [194.44.142.246]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CC03BE80 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tam.ukma.kiev.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tam.ukma.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n4SLXYgP082415 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 00:33:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from oksana@tam.ukma.kiev.ua) Received: (from oksana@localhost) by tam.ukma.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n4SLXYNu082414; Fri, 29 May 2009 00:33:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from oksana) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 00:33:34 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <200905282133.n4SLXYNu082414@tam.ukma.kiev.ua> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 22:14:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BE5D3BE8A; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0A491E38-C772-47B5-8236-468A2B908C69@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: vg-8@yahoogroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: FS: Roland VG-8, 88, 2 M-512E data cards (for VG-8), US-20 (RMC fixed), FC-200 Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:14:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, folks Putting all these on ebay US tomorrow, unless somebody here want to buy direct from me. The units are all in good shape, with complete manuals and latest updates, but no original packaging. Each VG comes with a 13-pin cord; the US-20 with two short cords. Questions welcome! These will be the minimum bids at ebay; shipping not included, PayPal preferred: VG-8EX: $225 VG-88: $375 M-512 cards: $50 each US-20: $100 (note this has been adjusted to conform to RMC piezo PUs; could presumably be put back to factory specs) FC-200: $125 Thanks! David Coffin 1096 Winchuck River Road Brookings, OR 97415 541-728-0634 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 22:14:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4F6F3BE8D; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zIx6exfCYnVpWu0RyKzUrNP94iEtg3M+kTYnvWczv+k=; b=agb0TtT2Od+prs6nCyDYuR7ZGivXgcH2ioEzToxeZ7krYEXrOqPZkotDmB8d8DqroD gSjusI3IVJlq3HkrYi85hbvLGPRvnxfr9xg1oIHuRVZZwZRG5qjssz74Ir0q78jtPrpW A9UfOCrOQXTxfBmZD5PUTjdOG4M0Rya08PJF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Sp5TQUp7aNWyNG5OxuzUPn0rX8Oz14bjORPH2mhXUz63ssyoS3yNFvPINFqCZIlw4s 5VbePY9M8nr//X+pawxCkQsx1y399pRmcNbFcj2ZwdYXLXeBbWY3RqbbiIO4FuVZaiNo 4f6NOZHxNsCX/dFE8RQcqyZkICJppFKNtI884= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A1D448A.5000703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:14:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Well, I'm not talking about cables and audio transfer. A good shielded cable is a thing of beauty. I'm talking about actual processing of a digital audio signal. Would your signal looped by Mobius sound different than a Looperlative? Not really, but this is assuming you've got a high quality audio interface. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i think sw is great when the setup needed is really big and you have > to take care of all those zthrillions of good quality cables and > matched connections. this is expensive in hardware, but sound cables > are so extremelly clean in the modular sw world :-). > > 2009/5/28, Mark Sottilaro : >> First of all, there is no god, let's get that out of the way. ;) >> >> I notice no depreciation of overall "sound" compared to when I was >> hardware bound. =A0Most hardware these days is software running on >> dedicated hardware anyway. =A0Special dedicated hardware might do it >> faster with less latency, but 1+1 is always 2. =A0This becomes a more >> slippery slope when emulating pure analog hardware, but there have >> been some amazing advancements over the last few years. =A0 I've owned a >> ton of guitar amps over the years (literally a ton) and I don't think >> my guitar sound has ever been better than what I'm able to come up >> with using various flavors of Amplitube. (note: this is an emulation >> of stomp box effects, amps, and a mic'd cab and rack gear, so it's not >> going to be the same as a real amp in a room) =A0As for synths? =A0I hea= r >> a lot of people say analog hasn't and maybe will never be perfectly >> emulated, but I say that's poppycock. =A0I spent a lot of time looking >> for this "analog magic" and I found next to nothing. =A0Experts are >> continuously baffled by blind comparisons. =A0Listen to some demos of >> one of the more "vintagey" VAs I've found: >> >> http://admiralquality.com/products/Poly-Ana/ >> >> Guitar players didn't fare really well in this showdown: >> >> http://emusician.com/tutorials/showdown-clubhouse-amp-software/index.htm= l >> >> So, will your software rig sound the same as your current hardware >> rig? =A0No. =A0It most definitely won't. Will it sound worse? =A0That's = up >> to you. =A0 In many ways I think my setup sounds better than it ever >> has. =A0 Luckily, most software comes with a demo so you can try before >> you buy. >> >> >> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Matt McCabe wr= ote: >>> Simeon, >>> >>> I would recommend against changing your rig if you are happy with the w= ay >>> it >>> sounds. =A0Yes, the weight factor is always an issue, but you aren't go= ing >>> to >>> care if your rig weighs 2 ounces if it sounds like crap! =A0Even with t= he >>> best >>> software emulations it isn't going to sound like your current rig. >>> =A0Similar? >>> =A0Probably. =A0But, is similar good enough when you currently have the= "voice >>> of god"? >>> >>> Just my two cents. >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> On May 27, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>> >>>> i'll keep researching....my rig sounds like the voice of god at the >>>> moment >>>> and there's a software update for the eclipse coming soon as well, so >>>> it'll >>>> take a fair amount of convincing to make me take the leap...but it's >>>> inevitable....eventually... >>>> >>>> many thanks >>>> >>>> sim >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 22:21:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BF7B3BE86; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A1F0E3B.5050903@unguitar.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 00:20:43 +0200 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2YyXo.A.P-E.P5wHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Hi Simeon, I have been doing this step 3 years ago. Actually I did just half step as I only replaced just 1/2 of my rack. I replaced my two edps and my switchblade, that was the heart of my routing/mixing and looping setup. So now I have a pc running the very intuitive and light-on-cpu Audiomulch ( I have been alpha-beta testing the 2.0 version which is amazing, and Mac friendly as well now) to do all my routing/mixing and as a vst host to load Mobius and some other plugins. I am using an Rme FF400 audio card connected via digital and analog to my main precessing boxes ( Eventide H8000, TC fireworx and Boss VF1). I am using FF400 analog outputs to play live and for monitoring and its adat outputs to go digitally into my recording sound card ( with loops on a different stereo channel pair than my main processed channels). Midi control is shared between a Gordius BLG and a Novation control zero. Audiomulch allows me to get crazy midi things ( just think to the metasurface). Now I would like to drop a part of my rack boxes ( at least the Fireworx and the VF1) but I'd need to have these possibly subsituted hw effects through an accelerator vst engine ( like tc powercore or else). Unfortunately there is still no external vst box that allows to load vst plugins bu the native ones ( Tc, Uad etc.). The good ones are big ( receptor) or still to young (Sm pro audio). Probaly the good step for me it would be to replace my 3 years laptop with a new and powerful one, but the setup I have now is running so smooth that I am someway afraid to change it until it would be a must do it. my best, luca Simeon Harris ha scritto: > ok, so my current setup is this... > > triaxis preamp > tc g-force > eventide eclipse > > split into > tc d2 delay > looperlative (with kaoss pad and lexicon mpx-1 in aux sends) > > all running into a rack mixer and into a mesa 20/20 poweramp and > marshall cabs > > i've been contemplating ditching all the rack fx and replacing them > with a mac laptop (keeping the triaxis and 20/20) > > my system at the moment is preset based - i have about 60 sounds > available with cc pedals for variation, with the g-force and eclipse > working in tandem > the lp-1 is controlled by a separate midi controller and i have a > control surface as well (which also controls the d2 and lexicon) > > i'd like ot be able to kinda recreate this lot in a laptop > > so i'm thinking about which plugin host will work best, bearing in > mind that i don't really want to have to launch loads of separate > programs on startup and i need everything to be synced to midi clock > and i also need to be able to control it all via midi > > i'm thinking of using guitar rig for the basic fx, with extra plugins > (including reaktor) for more sonic manipulation....with sooperlooper > and augustus loop running in parallel and feeding more plugins > > ableton live looks like a good bet, but i'd really just be using the > mixer...but it's nice and stable. > > so my questions are - will i be able to set up a bunch of plugins on > one midi channel and put the loopers on other channels, so i can > control everything the way i am now > > any other plugin hosts (for audiounits) that might be worth looking > at? is mainstage worth considering? > > any help would be greatly appreciated! > > sim > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.40/2135 - Release Date: 05/26/09 08:53:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 22:42:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0FA63BE85; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46BB50623DBB41D4A788875ADD09BCFC@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <4A1F0E3B.5050903@unguitar.com> Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:42:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <7UL1rB.A.B5F.XNxHKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Maybe we should discuss something safe like politics or religion? :-) --Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 28 23:50:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CBCC3BEAE; Thu, 28 May 2009 23:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; bh=UDphIxdzppKg/biQYRSI7FCuD6XE4wbcfIeW0Fu/560=; b=uCHBrQqWlE2fWWp1jH3xkhK/jdgxzIJgkgcnonlxfge+gaiGZOY0+9ShrGCAKR0iVT fYpMacAcbDwvrJq9Gf9AD7zrwRyjTQP71W5VeDNL75ODB3Vo2k+BnrMQ7CRTS0D+Az1V RvE8k4z0uwpCYmbEmd7F1w04EFE/CIlhAAlII= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version :subject:date:references; b=Bwv4aiiMOZimLJN9o/a1u3u4QQAf1dK2CLEWtLGO3R/4r4UHzEbrI5Gt/ksCIbg7Hl 43CVT/F6hji+PqOtBOL1ngX99zJWjUegUdpV2h9wp6PQGekUB0QiyNiuBt++T9TdlXts UXqhHN3pg2EpWeaWU+XEETMpQEtoupHMXEw+M= Message-Id: <20519AF6-5036-431C-A308-EA553F5732CB@gmail.com> From: eterogeneo To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1040993558 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please!le Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 01:42:57 +0200 References: <004d01c9df5c$de0fea20$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A1E3E0E.7090400@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 23:50:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1040993558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've replaced my rack with a MacBook and a RME 400 in 2007 and I'm really happy. I use bidule and mobius controlled by one FCB: less weight, endless options of audio-midi configurations, flexbility and "a 32 bit" quality sound...i don't need more... Nowdays i'm not using anymore my beloved Kaoss Pad. Sure, at the beginning you have to spent part or your time working to get your preferred configuration and "sound", and it never would be the same as you get from your hw rig, but many doors will open switching to software. But...attention: do not following or testing e v e r y new plugin that comes out, just try to understand what you need and then look for it. Too many possibilities, your taste and patience are the only limits. Fabio Il giorno 28/mag/09, alle ore 11:25, Simeon Harris ha scritto: > fantastic discussion, guys. it looks like midi and the way it's > handled by the host may be the deciding factor. sottilaro's ableton > setup is almost exactly what i had in mind originally, but having > messed around with bidule and heard per's comments on mainstage, i'm > on the fence at the moment. i think i'll have to "mock up" various > setups on my imac first to see how they work before taking the > plunge and getting a laptop. if i have anything interesting to > report, or useful comparisons to make, i'll try and post my > conclusions here. its going to be a tough process, because i'm > really in love with my soundset, but i've had it a while now and i > think it's time for a change. i could spend several weeks > reprogramming all my patches, but i'll have to do that with a new > laptop setup anyway.... > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:32 AM, andy butler > wrote: > Michael Peters wrote: > happy with this and still experimenting ... and contrary to what > Andy says, all these new possibilities sparked my musical > imagination big time. > > :-) > beautiful > > --Apple-Mail-1--1040993558 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've replaced my = rack with a MacBook and a RME 400 in 2007 and I'm really = happy.
I use bidule and mobius controlled by one FCB: less weight, endless options of audio-midi = configurations, flexbility and "a 32 bit" quality sound...i don't need = more...
Nowdays = i'm not using anymore my beloved Kaoss Pad.

Sure, at the beginning you have to spent part or = your time working to get your preferred configuration and "sound", and = it never would be the same as you get from your hw rig, but many doors = will open switching to software.
But...attention: do not following or testing e v = e r y new plugin that comes out, just try to understand what you need = and then look for it. Too many possibilities, your taste and patience = are the only limits.




Il giorno 28/mag/09, alle ore 11:25, = Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.co= m> ha scritto:

fantastic discussion, guys. it looks like midi and = the way it's handled by the host may be the deciding factor. sottilaro's = ableton setup is almost exactly what i had in mind originally, but = having messed around with bidule and heard per's comments on mainstage, = i'm on the fence at the moment. i think i'll have to "mock up" various = setups on my imac first to see how they work before taking the plunge = and getting a laptop. if i have anything interesting to report, or = useful comparisons to make, i'll try and post my conclusions here. its = going to be a tough process, because i'm really in love with my = soundset, but i've had it a while now and i think it's time for a = change. i could spend several weeks reprogramming all my patches, but = i'll have to do that with a new laptop setup anyway....

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:32 AM, andy = butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Michael Peters wrote:
happy with this and still experimenting ... and contrary to what Andy = says, all these new possibilities sparked my musical imagination big = time.

:-)
beautiful


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 04:09:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C87D83BE80; Fri, 29 May 2009 04:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c7anZJsiUi5vMAZw+HAkXqxpiutizIaXWr3BQMz0nh0=; b=ciF1lPh9dJnRK4qj38YnCqbG2NuNNWHsqhjXr9hAzeRJUgbH008cNG2fYSN6TlUTez wCIBvlRMgFZuTHuH65llnXVpz7Vdd6F8nlR0hOJhkgdWD881eJjSao17SZ04hVuAbZ/x 652YoXJ76pJbTJAUCeDkKjAcdZeYj1mpl9ZYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x+o3rHEQmUPwDsbswFMVMy/kJOp0n8jhfpqYNaI4ArPsb0CWCFWdHcMNyu3ZdZez3c p7q5RW+wTreLS5ExNs11/DaEGP4Dd5CNP3EoCgulJ+/accDRsbFHhn6KHn718okKY1/V /gDWQuKB0YHGhGyoybc+zgLRQuquXYOaRhFVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: jesse@essej.net In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADBB3B8D07@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905270846w18ee5fd7xc7c746f9ddc9f6ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D81AD.3090100@tiscali.co.uk> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADBB3B8D07@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 00:09:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Jesse Chappell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 04:09:01 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > It's more like VST parameter automation in a DAW, the plugin never > gets MIDI directly. =A0This is kind of annoying for complex plugins > (like say multi-track loopers) because you have to expose a bajillion > AU parameters and actions to make the most of Mainstage. =A0This is all > redundant if the plugin also needs to respond to MIDI for the > "primitive" hosts like Bidule. Yes, I will concur with Jeff that this is definitely annoying :) And then there's hosts like Live which arbitrarily decide to limit the number of exposed parameters to around 100, no matter how many the plugin may really have (a bajillion). jlc From member@ebay.co.uk Fri May 29 05:00:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 747 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 29 May 2009 05:00:23 UTC Received: from exchange2.kidum.com (mailcvp.kidum.co.il [192.116.245.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3283BE78; Fri, 29 May 2009 05:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([70.90.87.202]) by exchange2.kidum.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 29 May 2009 07:48:44 +0200 From: "eBay member:jprnds84" Subject: eBay New Unpaid Item Message from jprnds84: #2070651641 - Response required! Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 00:47:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2009 05:48:44.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[20EE23B0:01C9E021] To: undisclosed-recipients:; eBay sent this message
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 05:10:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 476D13BE84; Fri, 29 May 2009 05:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Bob Amstadt'" , References: <46BB50623DBB41D4A788875ADD09BCFC@bobdell> Subject: RE: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:10:07 -0700 Message-ID: <2225FD1EECE843EBB3CAAE326E88A213@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcngBQCYlQPtZbg+QmGiCTOyrOOKBAAFdCbA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <46BB50623DBB41D4A788875ADD09BCFC@bobdell> Resent-Message-ID: <6PctBD.A.4T.042HKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 05:10:12 +0000 (UTC) OK, Anybody seen Constantine's Sword? The James Carroll documentary about the violent past and present of Christianity? Kind of makes Mel Gibson look like your normal every day cracker/anti-Semite. A little light movie viewing ;-) , I mean, now that its open season on OT's ;-) bill -----Original Message----- From: Bob Amstadt [mailto:bob@amstadt.com] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! Maybe we should discuss something safe like politics or religion? :-) --Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 07:54:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41DB93BE8A; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 203298247/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.130.53/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.130.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiwCAHcxH0pPToI1/2dsb2JhbAAIzjSEDAWIWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,270,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="203298247" Message-ID: <4A1F9797.8050908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:06:47 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative questions References: <3B47D998-CECE-41D9-A94F-7B1850F6E573@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8KmX-C.A.CAE.uS5HKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Simeon Harris wrote: > > this hasn't been implemented yet, but i think bob is thinking about > it....although there is a replace function which can be quantised to > occur at a user defined subdivision of the loop length. (mucho fun with > a momentary pedal and the number of subdivisions can be different for > each loop) > now that *is* like the EDP :-) andy From oksana@tam.ukma.kiev.ua Fri May 29 09:37:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from tam.ukma.kiev.ua (tam.ukma.kiev.ua [194.44.142.246]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094233BE78 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 09:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tam.ukma.kiev.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tam.ukma.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n4T931qM080113 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 12:03:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from oksana@tam.ukma.kiev.ua) Received: (from oksana@localhost) by tam.ukma.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n4T931ig080112; Fri, 29 May 2009 12:03:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from oksana) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:03:01 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <200905290903.n4T931ig080112@tam.ukma.kiev.ua> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: "hallmark.com" Content-Type: text/html
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 14:05:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE9D33BE7C; Fri, 29 May 2009 14:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "franticworld" To: References: <100511.74222.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: AW: Welcome Hauke, to the live looping community Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:05:05 +0200 Message-ID: <5D650DA9C7CE45509E205A0A603BEA0A@xppro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <100511.74222.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcneYpLtnBg6gvkiRdyGXCckTIZv/wCA8aBQ X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/dWltItO0U+hvfTG9dOf+nTi7NOvaNu8DKE58 29uOrrlMAeyUeufXIZgCC+gEpYOp4fmbd0BqvPtnsT4po38BJe 6JLlYjVW4B6fwIgY1oFYo07mettMrA+ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:05:07 +0000 (UTC) yes they do sound great! like the liz phair girly sound demos. -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 02:32 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: AW: Welcome Hauke, to the live looping community Rick tell Chris the tracks sound killer! by the way ive been trying to get into old 70s multitrack cassette = record players that have that sound,i started on an 80s fostex but lacked this = type of flutter any recomendations? if u see one in ebay that you have experience with = send me a link ! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Rick Walker schrieb am Mo, 25.5.2009: > Von: Rick Walker > Betreff: Welcome Hauke, to the live looping community > An: info@franticworld.d, "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Datum: Montag, 25. Mai 2009, 18:49 > Hi Hauke, >=20 > Welcome to the list.=A0 I'd love to contribute some > stuff. >=20 > I love lo fi pop and am working on some material like that > as we speak. >=20 > You might also really enjoy my wife,=A0 Christine > Wedertz's=A0 work, by the way. She's making an entire lo > fi pop record right now, playing all the instruments, > recording and producing by herself. >=20 > She's at=A0 > =A0=A0=A0www.myspace.com/donebeginner >=20 > her first four tracks are up there.=A0 She used an old > seventies cassette recorder to record her vocals. > It has terrible wow and flutter..........it sounds great. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Anyway,=A0 I produce the world's largest live looping > festival every year in Northern California in the third week > of October. >=20 > This year, the Y2K9 International Live Looping Festival > will feature 50-55 artists from 5-10 countries in > 6 days in 4 cities.=20 > If you put a live project together using live > looping,=A0 I'd love to encourage you to apply to > perform. >=20 > Applications will be accepted after the 1st of August (and > not before) by sending > an email with this in the subject line: >=20 > Y2K9 SUBMISSION:=A0 =A0 (your name here)(your country > of residence) > and all your contact information in the body of the email >=20 > You can send that to >=20 > looppool (at)=A0 cruzio=A0 (dot)=A0 com >=20 > Welcome to the list and we look forward to hearing your > creativity. >=20 > yours, in the loop, > Rick Walker > www.looppool.info/bio.htmlWe >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 14:20:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D785B3BE89; Fri, 29 May 2009 14:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <0A491E38-C772-47B5-8236-468A2B908C69@earthlink.net> References: <0A491E38-C772-47B5-8236-468A2B908C69@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <32d3193b8898f7c6c87fc92821132a22@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: vg-8@yahoogroups.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: FS: Roland VG-8, 88, 2 M-512E data cards (for VG-8), US-20 (RMC fixed), FC-200 Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:20:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:20:41 +0000 (UTC) David, Oh my . . . you're not getting out of music altogether are you. It's like you are Mr. VG . . . which darn makes it unthinkable. Tell us it ain't so sir. Best regards, Ted On May 28, 2009, at 3:14 PM, David Coffin wrote: > Greetings, folks > > Putting all these on ebay US tomorrow, unless somebody here want to > buy direct from me. > > The units are all in good shape, with complete manuals and latest > updates, but no original packaging. Each VG comes with a 13-pin cord; > the US-20 with two short cords. Questions welcome! > > These will be the minimum bids at ebay; shipping not included, PayPal > preferred: > VG-8EX: $225 > VG-88: $375 > M-512 cards: $50 each > US-20: $100 (note this has been adjusted to conform to RMC piezo PUs; > could presumably be put back to factory specs) > FC-200: $125 > > Thanks! > > David Coffin > 1096 Winchuck River Road > Brookings, OR 97415 > 541-728-0634 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 14:52:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2D713BE8D; Fri, 29 May 2009 14:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:52:32 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20090528142217.O7XYD.3420986.root@mp15> Message-ID: <20090529145232.202660@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090528142217.O7XYD.3420986.root@mp15> Subject: Re: OT: Genetic Basis Of Musical Aptitude To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+2+FIOT9K2/D/8VahR/fmVG+OvRsYFN6JnQ+MyWn kUf6KjR5/jYqagmlLWCYLQpNufkkv5uMKaeg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: 44J6OkIuZCEEc8dhnm0hvH54IGhpZYYq X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:52:35 +0000 (UTC) yeah, interesting. Thanks. Buzap -- Nur bis 31.05.: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 16:28:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E87A3BE86; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <727B2F67-0DEE-458E-AB02-457FA0303BDA@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <32d3193b8898f7c6c87fc92821132a22@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: FS: Roland VG-8, 88, 2 M-512E data cards (for VG-8), US-20 (RMC fixed), FC-200 Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:28:15 -0700 References: <0A491E38-C772-47B5-8236-468A2B908C69@earthlink.net> <32d3193b8898f7c6c87fc92821132a22@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1KsbT.A.vbH.l0AIKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Not out of music, just guitar. I'm simply not doing it, haven't for =20 years now, except for that last hurrah with the 99, which proved that =20= I've got no energetic impulses in that direction these days, certainly =20= not enough to carry me through the re-callusing and hand retraining =20 process. So, it's all computer-generated, if at all, from here on out, =20= no worries; I like that:) Until I don't=85 And thus, that eloquent silence you and the rest of the waiting world =20= have been enjoying from me for the last few years will now have a =20 slightly more "just so" quality; I hope you enjoy it! dpc On May 29, 2009, at 7:20 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > David, > > Oh my . . . you're not getting out of music altogether are you. > > It's like you are Mr. VG . . . which darn makes it unthinkable. > > Tell us it ain't so sir. > > Best regards, > > Ted > > On May 28, 2009, at 3:14 PM, David Coffin wrote: > >> Greetings, folks >> >> Putting all these on ebay US tomorrow, unless somebody here want to =20= >> buy direct from me. >> >> The units are all in good shape, with complete manuals and latest =20 >> updates, but no original packaging. Each VG comes with a 13-pin =20 >> cord; the US-20 with two short cords. Questions welcome! >> >> These will be the minimum bids at ebay; shipping not included, =20 >> PayPal preferred: >> VG-8EX: $225 >> VG-88: $375 >> M-512 cards: $50 each >> US-20: $100 (note this has been adjusted to conform to RMC piezo =20 >> PUs; could presumably be put back to factory specs) >> FC-200: $125 >> >> Thanks! >> >> David Coffin >> 1096 Winchuck River Road >> Brookings, OR 97415 >> 541-728-0634 >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 18:14:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D17C3BE84; Fri, 29 May 2009 18:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wqCLZGQJlzRY/j3DB6ymt6LclgPPKZUhw/35nAM5kbA=; b=wBAyxsVT1pT1PDRbjwcDSVTgkVbgirI6088MPvpvzrfvPlz3drMYnnB+AhNgFBBvCl Bz3YeAtS+v5kHF6T6q0mqZffGt1IgNhyKJ5aeuSvinKnfRPECHlXMeOwGI0GOoc2J15z K7+4vJeTcymkGMQdYCMkuxN+FpwqarMw5Q2QM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n1dKnb4fIVwOB/d/qU6E6QDuDe8lrBl4ENK/aNKbeGbzvidLVHmQJ8y2TR4aU6qbFj lMPSuzpnmBBHvlo3i0iE6YGQFk/se76pO9UBAi0vsvDvbnqf4ZUepodeYRkA5ba6GGZw YL2r4gDPvyreZS4niYlB30LjxONtsljdj8NbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905270846w18ee5fd7xc7c746f9ddc9f6ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D81AD.3090100@tiscali.co.uk> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADBB3B8D07@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:14:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 18:14:55 +0000 (UTC) This was "fixed" in Live 8. You can now choose any parameters the plug in has and "enable" them. The cool thing is that now you don't have to see any more than you actually use. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Jesse Chappell wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Jeff Larson = wrote: > >> It's more like VST parameter automation in a DAW, the plugin never >> gets MIDI directly. =A0This is kind of annoying for complex plugins >> (like say multi-track loopers) because you have to expose a bajillion >> AU parameters and actions to make the most of Mainstage. =A0This is all >> redundant if the plugin also needs to respond to MIDI for the >> "primitive" hosts like Bidule. > > Yes, I will concur with Jeff that this is definitely annoying :) > > And then there's hosts like Live which arbitrarily decide to limit the > number of exposed parameters to around 100, no matter how many the > plugin may really have (a bajillion). > > jlc > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 19:32:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE58E3BE87; Fri, 29 May 2009 19:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w9bLjYY8oorwejhhKWOOoGsPd+707ifJkjyPbVcoh/I=; b=ure5yVBWeFB41nhpwfKlg9JjMZLGh7+nHzsRRhtcXzuubpGJzPVY8D99wMy20O1y9O VQvgXGxHCj/EhKHnT0oZAPyH7io3zN7KwOhqr+uEy9+I0kexq+wz+zFfxIf9yILq6uS/ U2lcwEwHLljPM/PRFAueRWesmc3mr/7slYAh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wvUsrvKMqiDd+kG+EufBtRj5hJp43+j5WFXg4LFh8h5L+vHV+PffXAC0bwz1t0xrsv TJTsDGxF4PL2fSo4vc5jFYKGYhGU78WGpgvwxTKgukVnBHgwmmDJSK6DqGorCT39Fr5n jJlS8npVYdnuJqY7qhusX7ql1wjtdKRdHIZjc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:32:02 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905291232r554f98cyc4f7ef9dcaf4785d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - Sat May 30th, 16:00 UTC From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 19:32:03 +0000 (UTC) After several weeks of prototyping, The MoinSound Studio Sessions start as a regular, bi-weekly event series: Tune in every even calendar week on Saturday 1600 UTC for the cutting edge in avantgarde electronics, transmitted live in audio and video from MoinSound Central (M=FCnchen/Germany) to your computer! The first appearance will air on Saturday May 30th and feature yours truly on trombone and "komische Elektronik". http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs (time zone helper: 0900 West Coast, 1400 East Coast, 1700 GB, 1800 Western Europe) --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=3D117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 22:38:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 199A93BE87; Fri, 29 May 2009 22:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jT2cN/wmWp/Em/SRR0G+loNraPqGnPjvp3VFPoTr8rE=; b=xVt16tksO6D2gpQKl7bvkuWqQsqP/qN0vCH2kv82kBAgrRX8YPzOdYdSM3wiXnB4iu 5LSY7U5aM0wxyNNf0ys21YjF4xrffFiCv9qejjbE1PAVz923vwOgxmzMPCgPkP9MIEm0 go3btFcEyenitjFkc0fuxAPglcZIMBKch2Jmo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A7THhJ33uDCWYzR9htD4VJb4yR/BtLTlXbgQV4ukZHC5g9Juh9gukTq7TdliXRU5ah ThSMgxFTOtJnw2vR+wxLnRlh8iZTS0YE0XLqFO+eqyAi1yRf9bRjaOcK8/+3BkEddCMm 6OOR8dbV8y0WtYX8G+MK7/nKihEyIc4WBqeNY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:38:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4159672f51a1e28b Message-ID: Subject: Reminder to Sjaak From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2_Db5C.A.j_C.5PGIKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:38:50 +0000 (UTC) You really must see Spinal Tap. Os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 22:50:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0B783BE81; Fri, 29 May 2009 22:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UeBYJJPYY2x94l+VO4udvDKiyw9GghSs+QKXtpVzeTw=; b=H9EIhDzaQ2uZZFfxyBNTXyJdHxVKo/6UmBGTu6dO5W2PfqIMbA58RsHtjJKgqrxV+W ZYDGjXM/66Gk7J20QN0OM5T8dQzGYi3fg6bfAbISd/6QfjNazdnXZrtIffpjkym74xgc u03ZHhCROUDbrSaaUaxtrnX3d/hSUipyF42Iw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HRZRrqVp7gjg6d/fH7aUgv3BdY7HWRO4TsV88yAl6vLwpkUIfBnkGAJnriQRIpGKWK 1zGl1eafJtfHmilM2P9A2YAcEOZEL3suM/wjynWyqiQAZE7ukHvqTgIcFI3Gr/lCRfhj ktjLPJdTYgRqgKlwWzRmdYYQQKo9p3iU0qaTo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 00:50:18 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905291550s6e251a07t8adcac014f9ef7a3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Reminder to Sjaak From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:50:18 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Os wrote: > You really must see Spinal Tap. What an awesome mailing list this is! Could never imagine I would learn that Sjaak must see Spinal Tap tonight. And all for free!!!! Long live looping and The Internets! per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 29 23:08:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0645E3BE81; Fri, 29 May 2009 23:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NCRHalAGfh6/MHgyDTJx/TNcvQCCrwYSIT61/ZOxRI8=; b=yA1eq9CWt/SrCu4SS4COkW/YKYJGUdqFden7tCnaCQv/0zh9psfkSfTxtYx0gf0Z2o GcRaV8sDU38Z6Ud+09U1zko3ZLE8WPNMWwOv9qT/72sMCm2s9UQpNQrQMrhpD/sfPVrU jpeCTJH7tZvnAswpenhdQiZrqLfTFOnpWajZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i4Wl/Cpxndqdf1UvAHk65+uz+xQmAICtlpsGNXcQMoiBP6TEFrVA3FhpSe8r+2RS4T VL42yb0hbQOsP6IpMVgAdhI/NFsH4zPUT/fjDKsdBkkzxhVD0nLc10OYexws3tKo8njx T+8Vdfu1Fu1dEPSOCybuv4pwMoCNbnS4j01XE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905291550s6e251a07t8adcac014f9ef7a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905291550s6e251a07t8adcac014f9ef7a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:08:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reminder to Sjaak From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:08:23 +0000 (UTC) I'm coming out against Spinal Tap. It's OK at best. I'd go for Bad News instead: http://www.amazon.com/Bad-News/dp/B0002EGA8U On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Os wrote: >> You really must see Spinal Tap. > > What an awesome mailing list this is! Could never imagine I would > learn that Sjaak must see Spinal Tap tonight. And all for free!!!! > Long live looping and The Internets! > > per ;-) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 30 00:40:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 041EB3BE81; Sat, 30 May 2009 00:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=layvtSBH9q648HVDmhkLpuWP7wyrDMiYpvpUKr5qHJA=; b=r6f+swcLruqfCcFw+fx1rpaDhIfBB120boVOgahICAoDGvWvqB80rFEfL81x/cKDAe /cEUTmmAbw4RBrpAZK6NxiEAZaWI7VzrVZaylyq2yXLItu1EHTYxxwD42weYaUvUFgft +4+by1FUyyDRHeqDDrSofGh+cK25Ojn4EH5+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UtwyZ5rBOjc2ZBIgp5hn3x0SV427pXcpCgn50iUBlLpkbfap/FaThHQiRNXe6PgRLL +paroHzJjqrvURQp2DQeTXq6fwnjRZ5VPUre1NgVGzC423QfjYRD4wue0eXQHMO2NEvj /yyzZUfjaE1lDllnaiwlOtFCwQ4odfVaX05t4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905291550s6e251a07t8adcac014f9ef7a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:40:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30905291740r265bf0a1o1eeb59a94af0b8c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Reminder to Sjaak From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 00:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Almost Famous! On 5/29/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I'm coming out against Spinal Tap. It's OK at best. I'd go for Bad > News instead: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 30 01:10:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6499E3BE8A; Sat, 30 May 2009 01:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <727B2F67-0DEE-458E-AB02-457FA0303BDA@earthlink.net> References: <0A491E38-C772-47B5-8236-468A2B908C69@earthlink.net> <32d3193b8898f7c6c87fc92821132a22@charter.net> <727B2F67-0DEE-458E-AB02-457FA0303BDA@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: FS: Roland VG-8, 88, 2 M-512E data cards (for VG-8), US-20 (RMC fixed), FC-200 Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 18:10:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 01:10:12 +0000 (UTC) David, I really wish i had the spare dough to buy some of your kit. Then at least it would be nearby and you could come visit it=20 occasionally. :-) Ted On May 29, 2009, at 9:28 AM, David Coffin wrote: > Not out of music, just guitar. I'm simply not doing it, haven't for=20 > years now, except for that last hurrah with the 99, which proved that=20= > I've got no energetic impulses in that direction these days, certainly=20= > not enough to carry me through the re-callusing and hand retraining=20 > process. So, it's all computer-generated, if at all, from here on out,=20= > no worries; I like that:) Until I don't=85 > > And thus, that eloquent silence you and the rest of the waiting world=20= > have been enjoying from me for the last few years will now have a=20 > slightly more "just so" quality; I hope you enjoy it! > > dpc= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 30 01:18:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DA423BE8D; Sat, 30 May 2009 01:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=B1bkv5P3lyNvj4e6ql1Umi6o1fl5qmBl2GjXFAoGzyQ=; b=XmptHcWT8OxxogxfznS9bwPsa151GjF+xsJXgTZdkVED7dIZKaErMEby46KOEYj6gg goYkX0YpJHdo/wogTquTjpDRk7ZnzgUf+TJ8isWKNRY+sTebTk4u6v8wXwjjnTtOeaIr JE01gNOSxiufQ5T4OjkXMp7mmEwFsSaDnuvJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RXgsQLHm94BHLFjCd0NfM8Ba8iIokIyfHm9FgKaR0tKJWgeiKmVqWlql8Ci2u0YjXS FeyttYwo9bSnM8wp1IqPaqXqWNxM8NelshI7ta9TZRY0+cbl7cm8eFFUC7wbEWXymBoJ qyS+FuXLLtQF0uq3rHqOpys535ZaLHIRkyrM8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0A491E38-C772-47B5-8236-468A2B908C69@earthlink.net> <32d3193b8898f7c6c87fc92821132a22@charter.net> <727B2F67-0DEE-458E-AB02-457FA0303BDA@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 18:18:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FS: Roland VG-8, 88, 2 M-512E data cards (for VG-8), US-20 (RMC fixed), FC-200 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 01:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Damn, I always wanted a VG8 system... not quite a good time now though. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:10 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > David, > > I really wish i had the spare dough to buy some of your kit. > > Then at least it would be nearby and you could come visit it occasionally= . > > :-) > > Ted > > On May 29, 2009, at 9:28 AM, David Coffin wrote: > >> Not out of music, just guitar. I'm simply not doing it, haven't for year= s >> now, except for that last hurrah with the 99, which proved that I've got= no >> energetic impulses in that direction these days, certainly not enough to >> carry me through the re-callusing and hand retraining process. So, it's = all >> computer-generated, if at all, from here on out, no worries; I like that= :) >> Until I don't=85 >> >> And thus, that eloquent silence you and the rest of the waiting world ha= ve >> been enjoying from me for the last few years will now have a slightly mo= re >> "just so" quality; I hope you enjoy it! >> >> dpc > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 30 03:21:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94EC93BE8E; Sat, 30 May 2009 03:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=flyloops.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=WzOobxM9nWDb0nmBBGHvs3o7BVMaXGRxUW4KfAGu+AqWTumrb8fhJ/0INIZQx7Ek8AOl8qc7DnimG+jj5nVtYX6A5WJELKWi5G/uOAV92FM4dpgCcvSxCD8iNS4IEfjC; X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 20:21:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, From: Aaron Leese Subject: gig spam:::: Maker Faire SF In-Reply-To: <000001c9de56$440f58e0$040313ac@PIPO> References: <000001c9de56$440f58e0$040313ac@PIPO> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090530032115.3F4623BE78@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 03:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Hey all - For those of you who might be in San Francisco and perhaps heading to the Maker Faire tomorrow, come see my exhibit and performance! The entire south west corner of the San Mateo expo center is going to be audio engineering and experiments in sound. Lots of cool stuff .... I'm demoing the new version of FlyLoops Looping Studio (v3.0). There are new downloads and videos available at www.flyloops.com. I have my first mac compatible version, and the audio Engine is entirely VST based, so VST support will be done very soon. There are a number of new functions, including loop and turntable bpm shifting, freq shiting, quantization of bpm and/or freq, auto-fade, auto-sync (memory of where a loop should/would be), mouse loop scratching, turntable visualization, user controllable visualization of live input and looped output. I'll be set up all day tomorrow, and performing at 2PM. Not there sunday (though you can swing by the Revolution Cafe on 22nd between Mission and Valencia to see me play jazz and blues piano this and every sunday from 11-2). hope to see some of you there - ciao now - aaron From info@wins.com Sat May 30 15:24:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 833 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 30 May 2009 15:24:49 UTC Received: from mailfilter6.ihug.co.nz (mailfilter6.ihug.co.nz [203.109.136.6]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1CF3BE78 for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 15:24:39 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcgAJ7pIEop25ZU/2dsb2JhbACXCoIJB4V2gUevAYJMgUAF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,276,1241352000"; d="scan'208";a="101101153" Received: from webmail8.ihug.co.nz (HELO webmail.ihug.co.nz) ([203.109.137.28]) by smtp.mailfilter6.ihug.co.nz with ESMTP; 31 May 2009 03:10:42 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:04:34 +1200 From: Camelot To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: (no subject) Reply-To: mrraydonald13@9.cn Message-ID: X-Sender: info@wins.com SenderIP: 41.219.150.84 Received: from [41.219.150.84] (41.219.150.84) (login=ZGNjY0BpaHVnLmNvLm56) by webmail.ihug.co.nz (running Vodafone Webmail/0.1) via TCP with HTTP/1.1 id ; 31 May 2009 03:04:34 +1200 User-Agent: Vodafone Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You were selected for the sum of £891,934,00 GBP . 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This will include your name, address, age, phone number etc to Mr Ray Donald. mrraydonald13@9.cn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 30 15:25:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B500D3BE87; Sat, 30 May 2009 15:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1243697124; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=nsZv9rkQAcLa/07OXvBSseWWC64=; b=jnqao5vpgbowO5PawjEGbFUC1qvMTkQsvwrdwQ0u+yvZGObRK9WdXQtKrAfa/nfA 0HnnBSkgrqOSokGUOCyIBmwbsx7ifDW+5FRt6+1NibodvIaj1gL6WK3XCMZ9MNHN; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_kAKQwLiqLwA:10 a=SHqDY3wHHkYA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=Cp0_AXTNAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=fkieF908AAAA:8 a=E_yRJ_AoAAAA:8 a=2UEpOeRKj6AFuifnX_UA:9 a=Gx2rwC9HK7uFFyhutgj6oRG-EYMA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c9e13a$da481680$d6ef3547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0905291232r554f98cyc4f7ef9dcaf4785d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - Sat May 30th, 16:00 UTC Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:25:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:25:25 +0000 (UTC) I always get this screwed up. Is this noon EST or 2:00 PM EST? :) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - Sat May 30th, 16:00 UTC After several weeks of prototyping, The MoinSound Studio Sessions start as a regular, bi-weekly event series: Tune in every even calendar week on Saturday 1600 UTC for the cutting edge in avantgarde electronics, transmitted live in audio and video from MoinSound Central (München/Germany) to your computer! The first appearance will air on Saturday May 30th and feature yours truly on trombone and "komische Elektronik". http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs (time zone helper: 0900 West Coast, 1400 East Coast, 1700 GB, 1800 Western Europe) --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 30 15:35:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B2483BE92; Sat, 30 May 2009 15:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DcBgA+73j5UXYqilGJYg4Ug/Sy4NNhMQOLWCowmnap8=; b=UIspdi+7lKpys3n1X/YjZ+TiUw9ppWTjRL0soYoNdTQ7yCqFcaGWn9cAPLF8pBdYOf qtwlyT1mP9VqEzVPJ0odPyM8SkNPfvbEuOuxQJ917y6gd+2jYHT+Op+zDzAvp+QYZ5fq VisNpEaZuts8Mg+GxsLJyodTy+9eLxlTJY+Zw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=C4QmXCgNCDntION4ozng7RHmnXFZDhSVZhb6nVoqqqGUgHaB0QMzkJyQoQJVobnPUo l/IZXop/R3QEaWZNO86TFk2u6aCOKnpdKMg5TCG6LdSLWrytaPG/XYfgYnMwVNgRbBu9 kSc0a03I11bhc1ZI51P4ZzuRF/vyr8nAVWlhE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 17:35:56 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0905300835v5f9c7abepe20035ed6ae7deb8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: time zones (Re: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - Sat May 30th, 16:00 UTC) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:35:59 +0000 (UTC) I always get this screwed up. Is this noon EST or 2:00 PM EST? :) "1400 East Coast" would be 2:00 PM - don't you get drafted over there? ;) Now, according to my understanding, it should by now be something like 1:30pm on the east coast, so you should've been able to figure it out by now... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 30 15:37:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0208E3BE90; Sat, 30 May 2009 15:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <012b01c9e13c$7f741090$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <7334ca1b0905291232r554f98cyc4f7ef9dcaf4785d@mail.gmail.com> <000801c9e13a$da481680$d6ef3547@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - Sat May 30th, 16:00 UTC Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:37:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:37:08 +0000 (UTC) If it was 1400 it would be 2:00pm, but I think it should be 1200, which would be noon.. Anyway, starting 25 minutes from now (hope I've got that right). Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" To: Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - Sat May 30th, 16:00 UTC I always get this screwed up. Is this noon EST or 2:00 PM EST? :) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - Sat May 30th, 16:00 UTC After several weeks of prototyping, The MoinSound Studio Sessions start as a regular, bi-weekly event series: Tune in every even calendar week on Saturday 1600 UTC for the cutting edge in avantgarde electronics, transmitted live in audio and video from MoinSound Central (München/Germany) to your computer! The first appearance will air on Saturday May 30th and feature yours truly on trombone and "komische Elektronik". http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs (time zone helper: 0900 West Coast, 1400 East Coast, 1700 GB, 1800 Western Europe) --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 30 15:42:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 514703BE89; Sat, 30 May 2009 15:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LBEnA8JYAcUKKlgsQF2bC5T3L2Ughp84Ma5k+GI/DJw=; b=MauZu/205RP6NVZ3YRD+oZ1iSAzWaBlvBQ9zK3/tCr3jzPjbapNW4gl58ikfPq1EU3 dnjIEyWaeMELzJpdMWhtTKEZdZlm6CbsPgAAfjtGtK/T3GTvPWPgyzSxGsz9q9kr9DsD e0IoNMB7yFY83YZ79uABim/qRPzMvg6wVRbIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vWkIjMTuSQ2/hZLusU88+hTb3MTqwYuX8p93nKqGbM8QEAqNXRYXnHixLceV9CgTul IR9XP1SGSn7j6bSHukoaYxWveiwGJxn1WBrptYTUSIfevFvFowOxVxYT9gRB8zopt6/e j9wbEQa3Id/Di2Hgx3nnEM8fnxGhdAP2sf+HA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0905300835v5f9c7abepe20035ed6ae7deb8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0905300835v5f9c7abepe20035ed6ae7deb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:42:50 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60905300842p4308b9ael4131b2b68d678cff@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: time zones (Re: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - Sat May 30th, 16:00 UTC) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c594e5afe6dd046b230b94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:42:55 +0000 (UTC) --001636c594e5afe6dd046b230b94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when I do worldclock it's 12noon here rainer and everyone, see you in a few looking fwd... On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > I always get this screwed up. Is this noon EST or 2:00 PM EST? :) > > "1400 East Coast" would be 2:00 PM - don't you get drafted over there? ;) > > Now, according to my understanding, it should by now be something like > 1:30pm on the east coast, so you should've been able to figure it out > by now... > > Rainer > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c594e5afe6dd046b230b94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when I do worldclock it's 12noon here rainer and everyone, see you in a= few looking fwd...

On Sat, May 30, 2009 = at 11:35 AM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
I always get this screwed up. Is this noon = EST or 2:00 PM EST? :)

"1400 East Coast" would be 2:00 PM - don't you get drafted ov= er there? ;)

Now, according to my understanding, it should by now be something like
1:30pm on the east coast, so you should've been able to figure it out by now...

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer




--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 03:07:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 967983BE7E; Sun, 31 May 2009 03:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: References: Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 23:01:01 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: Dickie Landry Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Lovely disk --thanks for the tip/ At 11:54 AM -0700 5/22/09, Rev Fever wrote: >Awhile back, I mentioned a very early, looping pioneer artist who >was doing live solo saxophone looping performances in >Texas Louisiana (and?) >whose name is Dickie Landry. Well, the GOOD news is that he had >released a CD back in 2006,of which I just recently found out about, >and it is SUPERB! >3 long and beautiful, atmospheric, etc cuts that are a true joy. > >I remembered in the very early 80's hearing about Landry and his >story, but could never find anything by him to check out. >Definitely REVcommended! > >Here is where to obtain a copy and support this very special artist, >who is also an excellent painter, as well. >http://www.waydowninlouisiana.com/store.html > >Also, previously unknown to me is that Mr. Landry was a founding >member of the Philip Glass Ensemble and >has worked with Laurie Anderson, Talking Heads, painter Robert >Rauschenberg, and host of other luminaries. > >Enjoy! > >L8r, rezon8ors! > >Rev Fever >http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > >PS-He also released an LP way long ago entitled "12 Saxophones" >which presents his very early looping artistry, but it is long out >of print, >and any copies that can be found usually are sold for high prices. >Maybe if he got enough interest generated by others, that he would >consider >reissuing it onto CD? I think(?) he may be contacted thru the above >label, but do not know for sure? (Or..?) -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld "Don't make book, if you cannot cover bets." -- Tom Lehrer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 04:33:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D18863BE77; Sun, 31 May 2009 04:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1243744412; bh=V+w7MvCK+ZoU85cX764CZWoelOgx5KBhSd6HZms99wc=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=w5ad93VupsR9aQZ5RWumOYap/C9THZOYMVo/Rlv2ofue6prags2XeG9+2W6oM1/Bc FlHQuUYn4JR2wYYk6HT/a24PPwb6nWcHwK9ewIiNEnKlHYaka8Bxno39cU5bAVP/77 D+Bt8qut9HhE3F1NqGwhk6EbVhmg7vwZm+0hR+Aw= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: European Live Looping festival - Antwerp Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:33:35 +0200 Message-ID: <001e01c9e1a8$f676b5a0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <000001c9de56$440f58e0$040313ac@PIPO> Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcneVkFxByyCKKndS2y0c5us/nBLhADUUBSA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 04:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi, It's 06.00 in the morning at the moment. The festival is finished, the afterparty is finished, everyone is sleeping, the birds are singing and I'm still awake. Tired, but very satisfied with results the festival, both musically and socially. I'm happy that everyone was happy....so good night to all of you! :) PS It will take some time to prepare the mp3's and video's. I'll let you know as soon as I'm back from the Italian tour. Sjaak From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 04:37:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 344263BE75; Sun, 31 May 2009 04:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Disposition-Notification-To:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=KwS6zcS86Abx0A9rX/63ruZmTWRiCYJ9tB3FS9S4RdwIKpZVPx/qvyK1pCRJdS4nUSMPSUHTopla+gJ/K9mpQg7pa3XREsXfj4NlAqxqCKsuHbRNKAHJaXBoLlBEptQQrT4/nkzyD/Zj6d1bgad1Ek6QxbQ9WdmRy7Cn46N6RU0= ; X-YMail-OSG: VcSHxogVM1kuoVArD1u8G2kHEnkXdMOmtZnkqB88Eo.0opgAV6iBTE8X3lRZw.rmpWKPRN8RV6MsI7tl_uxvhuHFU93rkQ8MAsfu37Y5JSPkJuTj_d4cYkqTa7uZ9Ls0gPk.062Pwg3umOmpbZQdwXhs11XGXaIKKOlg9s5bhvIyTgDCIOzz5oRbjKaCKqap3eF.2lsn42cXUUrSlFzeKKyReZW_MNxkW0K0VLvI7lKdeJDmnDyf5Do8ShmlSX3jAwxRW_.ReFcPBmy_Gks8pYvi79KWH6SfHxKyflFSWNGfU8aCLTIC96QGD1LE4n_EVlTgKTtKCaM9sbAcalPtXgT1qpbTo6NRrAfdnXbCQMGrDw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1625556088 Disposition-Notification-To:kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Message-ID:<1625556088-1243744676-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-465403108-@bxe1133.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Re: European Live Looping festival - Antwerp From: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 00:46:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 04:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Great ! Hope I can make it next year.. -KalimbaMan www.myspace.com/kevinspears ------Original Message------ From: Sjaak To: Loopers Delight ReplyTo: Loopers Delight Subject: European Live Looping festival - Antwerp Sent: May 31, 2009 12:33 AM Hi, It's 06.00 in the morning at the moment. The festival is finished, the afterparty is finished, everyone is sleeping, the birds are singing and I'm still awake. Tired, but very satisfied with results the festival, both musically and socially. I'm happy that everyone was happy....so good night to all of you! :) PS It will take some time to prepare the mp3's and video's. I'll let you know as soon as I'm back from the Italian tour. 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Thanks, a great discussion as well! -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 08:30:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4403D3BE82; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9XU6P33iAxYrrRAgn4eZvQGLW3UCYye5MmaOTDZDpWs=; b=laH6Nh3GZb7RR7LU/M2u62Y9DOCCgAqpeB4wvSqhQu4UmHatP7VFyvDIOtO6HCrU4B CPi26Z+H6JmgRyHrXdiHyKis36lEZBnZH/rdmQ2LXM3QDBoZCVrPxqbrB55VLCE1wi2M NL03k3ePZFGoK0wVRuxfj9HbKFfYF3HfuOptc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tqgIWKf9aapl5JRI4rvPaD6QZQf/AuQ6BaDlcE9Hrm8GxMMeX/j6UdWpL7U+5LBy7W e/dWfFerptIU5sMZLuYrw7oEYbnBHeZqtt+4rnwd38Ns6aoA42OMyJ6lGTz+/ALPZSDV wXSYmf0aPnXkFQoaVmlrFipGzBaS3Y8IMDl8k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <001e01c9e1a8$f676b5a0$020313ac@PIPO> References: <000001c9de56$440f58e0$040313ac@PIPO> <001e01c9e1a8$f676b5a0$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:30:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 73e4c6980150428e Message-ID: Subject: Re: European Live Looping festival - Antwerp From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Good morning to you! Maybe we'll leave it a little later before coming over for brunch. :) Thanks and congratulations to Sjaak for organising a triumph of a festival. I've made a group on Flickr for collecting photos of the event: http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ I'll be uploading mine later, as soon as I get back home. Looking forward to the videos. cheers, os. 2009/5/31 Sjaak : > Hi, > It's 06.00 in the morning at the moment. The festival is finished, the > afterparty is finished, everyone is sleeping, the birds are singing and I'm > still awake. Tired, but very satisfied with results the festival, both > musically and socially. I'm happy that everyone was happy....so good night > to all of you! :) > > PS It will take some time to prepare the mp3's and video's. 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Regards, Mr. Grayson McGregor Reply to: gmcgregor@excite.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 18:41:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF9303BE75; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TWVi6h1auDHr20PCsf7r2eWeMius9sfL5ez+B78nGzI=; b=NhTF9iWAQ7Yt2VfORvR6ePCfbEDdjgD7k9vTnIemMUabZrHqTjE5p7Gzfwwffj3WSv sw0B1YzksGHBU3o1t4pVkHnecGB9SCwpqaXG1dLsKb7cJUKY37A2PQ8A56k/NJIk3K8z +KxrG3Lr5TmdWJzmnrm59uxXYup5XuI2SWtLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=IWF2wKD7F/6/RdxSdXty7cMc2kiXbQdopThYZZERAycJtW/ldUM2IOLMrvv1DTylnJ NCxicbGJyXWH2F3JE0vgKMdiF22IreHPmHzo5D8+raU+QusNmaKlBg/jZbDi21CgMuQi 57NoIsCXyfkMujIzUJ3MwjarimZUkJhfj71q0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Hegarty Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:40:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be26ae2b1da046b39a6eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:41:05 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be26ae2b1da046b39a6eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Per, Just wanted to give you an update on the issue and see if you had any insight. We ran the set a couple of times until one of the errors showed up, then reviewed the issue using MidiMonitor. On the whole i always use the SUS commands for the EDP, as it allows us be to be really precise with loop lengths. The error occurred when sending 4 'D3's (D3 being a 'general reset') out simultaneously to the 4 EDPS. I have these programmed as just 1 frame long, and ordinarily it works fine. In this case I could see that only the note-offs had fired, and the note-ons had been missed. I looped the track 20 or 30 times but could not repeat the error. But at our next rehearsal the same issue recurred! I can't imagine why this would be happening intermittently. It's not only D3's, once in a while a mute or a record will miss. It just seems that Logic is slightly unstable. What is interesting is this tends to only happen when we are actually playing, at which point we are playing soft-synths simultaneously to the midi tracks controlling the EDPs. I'm using a decent spec Macbook Pro, but perhaps it's just too much for the system to handle? Very frustrating! Thanks again for your help. Daniel 2009/5/15 Daniel Hegarty > I have. I ran MidiMonitor last night for the full length of the 30 minute > track, and it all looked very healthy, no glitches. > However, we also run 6 or 7 softsynths in the logic file which we play > live. We have two midi keyboards inputting and playing these instruments, at > different points, but also occasionally simultaneously. On the most part it > works fine, the trouble is we're normally playing when the glitches happen > so it's difficult to keep an eye on the MidiMonitor. Though, now I think > about it, we could run MidiMonitor while we're playing and then review the > log afterwards. Good idea! > > I'll let you know the results. > > Thanks > Daniel > > 2009/5/15 Per Boysen > >> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Daniel Hegarty >> >> wrote: >> > It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to bother sending >> the >> > signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am running quite a >> lot >> > off just a macbook pro. >> >> Well, that's indeed odd. But there has to be an explanation that we >> yet don't know about. Definitely not CPU related, because Logic would >> pop up a warning message before that happens. Are you sure it simply >> stops sending out the MIDI that is spinning in the sequencer? Have you >> monitored the MIDI Out port? That would be a good way to start >> trouble-shooting. >> >> Per >> >> > --0015174be26ae2b1da046b39a6eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Per,

Just wanted to give you an update on the issue = and see if you had any insight.

We ran the set a c= ouple of times until one of the errors showed up, then reviewed the issue u= sing MidiMonitor. On the whole i always use the SUS commands for the EDP, a= s it allows us be to be really precise with loop lengths. The error=A0occur= red=A0when sending 4 'D3's (D3 being a 'general reset') out= simultaneously to the 4 EDPS. I have these programmed as just 1 frame long= , and ordinarily it works fine. In this case I could see that only the note= -offs had fired, and the note-ons had been missed. I looped the track 20 or= 30 times but could not repeat the error. But at our next rehearsal the sam= e issue recurred!=A0

I can't imagine why this would be happening intermi= ttently. It's not only D3's, once in a while a mute or a record wil= l miss. It just seems that Logic is slightly unstable. What is interesting = is this tends to only happen when we are actually playing, at which point w= e are playing soft-synths simultaneously to the midi tracks controlling the= EDPs. I'm using a decent spec Macbook Pro, but perhaps it's just t= oo much for the system to handle?

Very frustrating! Thanks again for your help.

Daniel

2009/5/15 Daniel H= egarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.com>
I have. I ran MidiMonitor last night for th= e full length of the 30 minute track, and it all looked very healthy, no gl= itches.

However, we also run 6 or 7 softsynths in the logic file whi= ch we play live. We have two midi keyboards inputting and playing these ins= truments, at different points, but also occasionally simultaneously. On the= most part it works fine, the trouble is we're normally playing when th= e glitches happen so it's difficult to keep an eye on the MidiMonitor. = Though, now I think about it, we could run MidiMonitor while we're play= ing and then review the log afterwards. Good idea!

I'll let you know the results.

=
Thanks
Daniel

2009/5/15 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM, = Daniel Hegarty

<dani= elphegarty@googlemail.com> wrote:
> It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to bother sendin= g the
> signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am running quite a = lot
> off just a macbook pro.

Well, that's indeed= odd. But there has to be an explanation that we
yet don't know about. Definitely not CPU related, because Logic would pop up a warning message before that happens. Are you sure it simply
stops sending out the MIDI that is spinning in the sequencer? Have you
monitored the MIDI Out port? That would be a good way to start
trouble-shooting.

Per



--0015174be26ae2b1da046b39a6eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 20:16:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B82B3BE77; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oAtLEf/dPf+pnMKmqmkja7lwAS8+UEQH27sy2OdO32Y=; b=xwBmmnEWuqaD+8h0zsSsARnSMsubfXoabdEx76OOdrTOMDMtcbcvPU83X7+nzjSE3D cBMs1J1qor744gc3eVUuUh/UAILAeUNvS4KSSxI4mAclf4zj1yry5SUgwTlVDWN33a80 XlTirw6i2YLze6RyoCqlxMmx71ol1b6SmQ9cc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BD1ArBB2Fk9CvZZPuPKejRuGFciJS85TiBCpWhnimbrtUOzh7Way63P5x64kisO4gd 6e5EpSr6Ecbo4040olYuJNglkePZaAGwOcFVxac6dxUiNi1YHWUTyQVntv39uK+VL27C eFeHpQ+8d1zYEOx/xYhKqNeMIhHooPu7blytQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:15:45 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:16:10 +0000 (UTC) My totally uneducated guess is that you are partially right when saying that it's "too much for Logic to handle" but I think the catch is that Logic doesn't manage to handle it all in time. Especially if MIDI is quantized in Logic. If this assumption is correct it may help to "pre delay" the MIDI track in order to make sure all MIDI events get sent out in time. If using Quantize in the EDP the MIDI can arrive a healthy bit early without interfering with the music. Just a wild guess, you may have tried that trick already? Per On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Hey Per, > Just wanted to give you an update on the issue and see if you had any > insight. > We ran the set a couple of times until one of the errors showed up, then > reviewed the issue using MidiMonitor. On the whole i always use the SUS > commands for the EDP, as it allows us be to be really precise with loop > lengths. The error=C2=A0occurred=C2=A0when sending 4 'D3's (D3 being a 'g= eneral > reset') out simultaneously to the 4 EDPS. I have these programmed as just= 1 > frame long, and ordinarily it works fine. In this case I could see that o= nly > the note-offs had fired, and the note-ons had been missed. I looped the > track 20 or 30 times but could not repeat the error. But at our next > rehearsal the same issue recurred! > I can't imagine why this would be happening intermittently. It's not only > D3's, once in a while a mute or a record will miss. It just seems that Lo= gic > is slightly unstable. What is interesting is this tends to only happen wh= en > we are actually playing, at which point we are playing soft-synths > simultaneously to the midi tracks controlling the EDPs. I'm using a decen= t > spec Macbook Pro, but perhaps it's just too much for the system to handle= ? > Very frustrating! Thanks again for your help. > Daniel > > 2009/5/15 Daniel Hegarty >> >> I have. I ran MidiMonitor last night for the full length of the 30 minut= e >> track, and it all looked very healthy, no glitches. >> However, we also run 6 or 7 softsynths in the logic file which we play >> live. We have two midi keyboards inputting and playing these instruments= , at >> different points, but also occasionally simultaneously. On the most part= it >> works fine, the trouble is we're normally playing when the glitches happ= en >> so it's difficult to keep an eye on the MidiMonitor. Though, now I think >> about it, we could run MidiMonitor while we're playing and then review t= he >> log afterwards. Good idea! >> I'll let you know the results. >> Thanks >> Daniel >> >> 2009/5/15 Per Boysen >>> >>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Daniel Hegarty >>> wrote: >>> > It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to bother sendi= ng >>> > the >>> > signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am running quite a >>> > lot >>> > off just a macbook pro. >>> >>> Well, that's indeed odd. But there has to be an explanation that we >>> yet don't know about. Definitely not CPU related, because Logic would >>> pop up a warning message before that happens. Are you sure it simply >>> stops sending out the MIDI that is spinning in the sequencer? Have you >>> monitored the MIDI Out port? That would be a good way to start >>> trouble-shooting. >>> >>> Per >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 20:23:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD4D43BE77; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kB7hZ5+I/51tdAxMhQyyQnYqYlSNOgHPiG5fSRvpgdM=; b=gs2G58EhY8zEv9owSqv9JKAAIgE4qQiy5Nzx78xNnCDCc1s+29t6YUpuPfRfPm5cMj p3SdzXcV+jy3vdFpJ+Z8POMVMRCdLGeGIHUt5qWaGGXlmYSjRhucOZdl4rIxipr4UWcm pXNfzcH4D35jiZoVv4l6UjrJPBE6esZvbIPog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=efT+A7nY8Xr2ddmKnPPGBeW0J1U6Kek2VhTb6A7BWquNFQrCxa+wNMKQA4YrPVjuFZ C2I671OrMW3AqZvH/POgGXctPCkJm4A7/i+X65Aw06KsceOGF6yFXVy5+NDjc1jGgyhh psX6u0rQaa4CgxoCEras8V78iJeBKcogS2aHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Hegarty Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:23:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c16322aba02046b3b15d3 Resent-Message-ID: <74qOUD.A.iME.CduIKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:23:30 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c16322aba02046b3b15d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Per, Thanks again for taking the time! That sounds like an interesting idea. I have to admit my ignorance here. I've avoided using any sync so far, as the loop lengths involved are rarely the same twice, and I was finding the 8th note count a bit of a nightmare. So I'm effectively syncing purely by setting the SUS commands to precisely the right length. I'm now wondering if that's not the optimal solution, and perhaps I'm missing out on harnessing some of the power of the EDPs. Would I need to change the 8th note count before recording each loop in order to get them to be the right length? Another knowledge black spot, would changing the pre-delay have any effect on the timing of the looping actions? Perhaps causing the loops to trigger earlier than they should be? Thanks Daniel 2009/5/31 Per Boysen > My totally uneducated guess is that you are partially right when > saying that it's "too much for Logic to handle" but I think the catch > is that Logic doesn't manage to handle it all in time. Especially if > MIDI is quantized in Logic. If this assumption is correct it may help > to "pre delay" the MIDI track in order to make sure all MIDI events > get sent out in time. If using Quantize in the EDP the MIDI can arrive > a healthy bit early without interfering with the music. Just a wild > guess, you may have tried that trick already? > > Per > > > > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Daniel Hegarty > wrote: > > Hey Per, > > Just wanted to give you an update on the issue and see if you had any > > insight. > > We ran the set a couple of times until one of the errors showed up, then > > reviewed the issue using MidiMonitor. On the whole i always use the SUS > > commands for the EDP, as it allows us be to be really precise with loop > > lengths. The error occurred when sending 4 'D3's (D3 being a 'general > > reset') out simultaneously to the 4 EDPS. I have these programmed as just > 1 > > frame long, and ordinarily it works fine. In this case I could see that > only > > the note-offs had fired, and the note-ons had been missed. I looped the > > track 20 or 30 times but could not repeat the error. But at our next > > rehearsal the same issue recurred! > > I can't imagine why this would be happening intermittently. It's not only > > D3's, once in a while a mute or a record will miss. It just seems that > Logic > > is slightly unstable. What is interesting is this tends to only happen > when > > we are actually playing, at which point we are playing soft-synths > > simultaneously to the midi tracks controlling the EDPs. I'm using a > decent > > spec Macbook Pro, but perhaps it's just too much for the system to > handle? > > Very frustrating! Thanks again for your help. > > Daniel > > > > 2009/5/15 Daniel Hegarty > >> > >> I have. I ran MidiMonitor last night for the full length of the 30 > minute > >> track, and it all looked very healthy, no glitches. > >> However, we also run 6 or 7 softsynths in the logic file which we play > >> live. We have two midi keyboards inputting and playing these > instruments, at > >> different points, but also occasionally simultaneously. On the most part > it > >> works fine, the trouble is we're normally playing when the glitches > happen > >> so it's difficult to keep an eye on the MidiMonitor. Though, now I think > >> about it, we could run MidiMonitor while we're playing and then review > the > >> log afterwards. Good idea! > >> I'll let you know the results. > >> Thanks > >> Daniel > >> > >> 2009/5/15 Per Boysen > >>> > >>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Daniel Hegarty > >>> wrote: > >>> > It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to bother > sending > >>> > the > >>> > signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am running quite a > >>> > lot > >>> > off just a macbook pro. > >>> > >>> Well, that's indeed odd. But there has to be an explanation that we > >>> yet don't know about. Definitely not CPU related, because Logic would > >>> pop up a warning message before that happens. Are you sure it simply > >>> stops sending out the MIDI that is spinning in the sequencer? Have you > >>> monitored the MIDI Out port? That would be a good way to start > >>> trouble-shooting. > >>> > >>> Per > >>> > >> > > > > > > --0015174c16322aba02046b3b15d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Per,

Thanks again for taking the time!

=
That sounds like an interesting idea. I have to admit my ignoran= ce here. I've avoided using any sync so far, as the loop lengths involv= ed are rarely the same twice, and I was finding the 8th note count a bit of= a nightmare. So I'm effectively syncing purely by setting the SUS comm= ands to precisely the right length. I'm now wondering if that's not= the optimal solution, and perhaps I'm missing out on harnessing some o= f the power of the EDPs. Would I need to change the 8th note count before r= ecording each loop in order to get them to be the right length?

Another knowledge black spot, would changing the pre-de= lay have any effect on the timing of the looping actions? Perhaps causing t= he loops to trigger earlier than they should be?

Thanks
Daniel

2009/5/31 = Per Boysen <per= boysen@gmail.com>
My totally uneducated guess is that you are partially right when
saying that it's "too much for Logic to handle" but I think t= he catch
is that Logic doesn't manage to handle it all in time. Especially if MIDI is quantized in Logic. If this assumption is correct it may help
to "pre delay" the MIDI track in order to make sure all MIDI even= ts
get sent out in time. If using Quantize in the EDP the MIDI can arrive
a healthy bit early without interfering with the music. Just a wild
guess, you may have tried that trick already?

Per



On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Daniel Hegarty
<danielphegarty@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hey Per,
> Just wanted to give you an update on the issue and see if you had any<= br> > insight.
> We ran the set a couple of times until one of the errors showed up, th= en
> reviewed the issue using MidiMonitor. On the whole i always use the SU= S
> commands for the EDP, as it allows us be to be really precise with loo= p
> lengths. The error=A0occurred=A0when sending 4 'D3's (D3 being= a 'general
> reset') out simultaneously to the 4 EDPS. I have these programmed = as just 1
> frame long, and ordinarily it works fine. In this case I could see tha= t only
> the note-offs had fired, and the note-ons had been missed. I looped th= e
> track 20 or 30 times but could not repeat the error. But at our next > rehearsal the same issue recurred!
> I can't imagine why this would be happening intermittently. It'= ;s not only
> D3's, once in a while a mute or a record will miss. It just seems = that Logic
> is slightly unstable. What is interesting is this tends to only happen= when
> we are actually playing, at which point we are playing soft-synths
> simultaneously to the midi tracks controlling the EDPs. I'm using = a decent
> spec Macbook Pro, but perhaps it's just too much for the system to= handle?
> Very frustrating! Thanks again for your help.
> Daniel
>
> 2009/5/15 Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.com>
>>
>> I have. I ran MidiMonitor last night for the full length of the 30= minute
>> track, and it all looked very healthy, no glitches.
>> However, we also run 6 or 7 softsynths in the logic file which we = play
>> live. We have two midi keyboards inputting and playing these instr= uments, at
>> different points, but also occasionally simultaneously. On the mos= t part it
>> works fine, the trouble is we're normally playing when the gli= tches happen
>> so it's difficult to keep an eye on the MidiMonitor. Though, n= ow I think
>> about it, we could run MidiMonitor while we're playing and the= n review the
>> log afterwards. Good idea!
>> I'll let you know the results.
>> Thanks
>> Daniel
>>
>> 2009/5/15 Per Boysen <pe= rboysen@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Daniel Hegarty
>>> <danielphe= garty@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> > It just seems like once in a while, logic decides not to = bother sending
>>> > the
>>> > signals. Could that be CPU related do you think? I am run= ning quite a
>>> > lot
>>> > off just a macbook pro.
>>>
>>> Well, that's indeed odd. But there has to be an explanatio= n that we
>>> yet don't know about. Definitely not CPU related, because = Logic would
>>> pop up a warning message before that happens. Are you sure it = simply
>>> stops sending out the MIDI that is spinning in the sequencer? = Have you
>>> monitored the MIDI Out port? That would be a good way to start=
>>> trouble-shooting.
>>>
>>> Per
>>>
>>
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--0015174c16322aba02046b3b15d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 20:31:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 128ED3BE81; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qzoGlqg9w5Jm+uiphBtXOgt+KAhejJGVMUcEoMOozmU=; b=GWPYdNtSNBcBNCT0aGq4/1q0st5Ljmk3uaZ/SwvWvqwSP3MJHfUacb2MoOcX2Geqra ExjwUDHKIC7qJ5O/N8JSJNpUfOEIQbc8bcyprUYX4UuWmFCfbM3RCvTw6CsEFz8sd9Fl Upmdp6XFrzWYnhmHOR+NXsNLzpB8kUyJonApA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V5Wfya8AJ1K6YVkJq/2DQRWNFYkSwm0Z8O2ytRbDT52cNmMTkAXnuFBtfMMaN2ytIB XW33gGFDT1g6cP4D4XO7FLmp0/w1dGE2DF4BA+XerC2VwAKUo60yAFornEFUxrkm5wvC Dm3QdLGPN7DZ+iS3+xgODasKbun0ufIKUWMAo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:31:28 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0905311331n1ea11596uf1433adec0b52118@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:31:28 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > So I'm effectively syncing purely by setting the SUS commands to precisely > the right length. I'm now wondering if that's not the optimal solution, Unforturnately not optiomal because MIDI is in fact very flaky timing-wise, being a serial protocol. So even if MIDI events are quantized in the sequencer they can never be sent at the same time through a MIDI port. > Would I > need to change the 8th note count before recording each loop in order to get > them to be the right length? No, just use what gives enough "pre-timing". > Another knowledge black spot, would changing the pre-delay have any effect > on the timing of the looping actions? Perhaps causing the loops to trigger > earlier than they should be? Seems you have been missing the basic point in all this, which is that the EDP has to run synchronized to the MIDI sequencer. I've heard people doing that well with MIDI Clock and myself I have been doing it a couple of time with beat pulse sync (recorded a pulse from the EDP into Logic and then playing back that pulse into the EDP to make it follow). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 20:58:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 893233BE80; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=lKnlCffDudM/7cFKakITvu3c0AFAEl1Rct7Wnt3STKY=; b=FxQyk7GUJEquFOmiRzUyzuGFt+MmP+6mFWpW9/KZO261OmcKfzFj5IfREkm5Sqi98D f1GQegZxb2BV+7QYqWQxAzNVRjymilxizMPOeDpToESFchbx3ZU8umnsV110/xEvBmPt eZC8kOF8UfMher7+NxAKN00sErsY867Ki8R00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=cututL94IxGtqlOLWX/xg3Hhqa7XeX78dYFdIAnVpgpD94t0eTiaE1ziuzF4/eO1aA zPhjrlXmIJoh0UzvQ0t56vW6qaG4TAFDSZ0YddcrP3jPmoBRktHa7djARTworhSIYVYU 8vtvjKQ5U2r9y4jvUUW9t0pV1ZTAiqwfhurlk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0905311331n1ea11596uf1433adec0b52118@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311331n1ea11596uf1433adec0b52118@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Hegarty Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:57:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3f0ad71824046b3b9098 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:58:05 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3f0ad71824046b3b9098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Sorry for being dense, just a couple of clarifications! 1. Say for example, on one of the EDPs, I need to record a 4 bar loop, and then reset that loop later, and then record an unrelated 2 bar loop. How do I alter the loop length if not by using the SUSrecord function? When I've experimented with quantizing, it appeared to me that I could only set a fixed loop length using the 8th/cycle parameter. This obviously wouldn't be sufficient for the use case i describe above. i.e. When in quantize mode i press record once to start recording the loop, i then press it again, but the stop is determined by the 8th/cycle parameter rather than my button press. My impression was that Sync=In, and Quantize was to be used when using a fixed length loop which you wished to develop and perform operations on. If that's not the case, I'd be very interested in how to very the loop lengths on the fly, so to speak. 2. I assume the pre-delay option is only useful in the case of using the EDP quantize as otherwise it would cause the commands not to be sent out precisely on time. I have a horrible feeling I've wasted a lot of time going about this the wrong way! Thanks so much for your patience. Daniel 2009/5/31 Per Boysen > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Daniel Hegarty > wrote: > > So I'm effectively syncing purely by setting the SUS commands to > precisely > > the right length. I'm now wondering if that's not the optimal solution, > > Unforturnately not optiomal because MIDI is in fact very flaky > timing-wise, being a serial protocol. So even if MIDI events are > quantized in the sequencer they can never be sent at the same time > through a MIDI port. > > > Would I > > need to change the 8th note count before recording each loop in order to > get > > them to be the right length? > > No, just use what gives enough "pre-timing". > > > Another knowledge black spot, would changing the pre-delay have any > effect > > on the timing of the looping actions? Perhaps causing the loops to > trigger > > earlier than they should be? > > Seems you have been missing the basic point in all this, which is that > the EDP has to run synchronized to the MIDI sequencer. I've heard > people doing that well with MIDI Clock and myself I have been doing it > a couple of time with beat pulse sync (recorded a pulse from the EDP > into Logic and then playing back that pulse into the EDP to make it > follow). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --0015174c3f0ad71824046b3b9098 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Sorry for being dense, just a couple of clarificatio= ns!

  1. Say for example, on one of the EDPs, I= need to record a 4 bar loop, and then reset that loop later, and then reco= rd an unrelated 2 bar loop. How do I alter the loop length if not by using = the SUSrecord function? When I've experimented with quantizing, it appe= ared to me that I could only set a fixed loop length using the 8th/cycle pa= rameter. This obviously wouldn't be sufficient for the use case i descr= ibe above. i.e. When in quantize mode i press record once to start recordin= g the loop, i then press it again, but the stop is determined by the 8th/cy= cle parameter rather than my button press. My impression was that Sync=3DIn= , and Quantize was to be used when using a fixed length loop which you wish= ed to develop and perform operations on. If that's not the case, I'= d be very interested in how to very the loop lengths on the fly, so to spea= k.
  2. I assume the pre-delay option is only useful in the case of using the E= DP quantize as otherwise it would cause the commands not to be sent out pre= cisely on time.
I have a horrible feeling I've wasted a l= ot of time going about this the wrong way! Thanks so much for your patience= .

Daniel

2009/5/= 31 Per Boysen <= perboysen@gmail.com>
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Daniel Hegarty
<danielphegarty@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> So I'm effectively syncing purely by setting the SUS commands to p= recisely
> the right length. I'm now wondering if that's not the optimal = solution,

Unforturnately not optiomal because MIDI is in fact very flaky
timing-wise, being a serial protocol. So even if MIDI events are
quantized in the sequencer they can never be sent at the same time
through a MIDI port.

> Would I
> need to change the 8th note count before recording each loop in order = to get
> them to be the right length?

No, just use what gives enough "pre-timing".

> Another knowledge black spot, would changing the pre-delay have any ef= fect
> on the timing of the looping actions? Perhaps causing the loops to tri= gger
> earlier than they should be?

Seems you have been missing the basic point in all this, which is tha= t
the EDP has to run synchronized to the MIDI sequencer. I've heard
people doing that well with MIDI Clock and myself I have been doing it
a couple of time with beat pulse sync (recorded a pulse from the EDP
into Logic and then playing back that pulse into the EDP to make it
follow).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 31 23:14:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F6B3BE81; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1243811670; bh=cRtSQf9DRlZJDyWAQNVi52szsISsOBt0JtP1BH2KZpI=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=FTpP7lfK3NFBUFlbCjLuq1l8bzXdC5ToQARR5GsLYHCzCFt5SfQIvTJiR3h4MJn4P XEP8IFb3FIqROttcTGoeRlrHJidhAkuCx3jg42VrkagMPpC7G5XyCp4dtyXduNyrIx sk7scMXGwE2E0VjTvvzBDMqddibucPCVnM2CWZVg= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: European Live Looping festival - Antwerp Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:14:35 +0200 Message-ID: <000101c9e245$90c57410$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnhygDPPzl7lWHETpyb4kCLgLEMawAe0OfQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:14:32 +0000 (UTC) > From: expertsleepers@googlemail.com > I've made a group on Flickr for collecting photos of the > event: http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ Thanks Os, that's a good idea. I haven't made photographs myself but Ingrid has so we'll upload these as soon as possible. Sjaak